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00:00 Hey, got dudes hung like a horse! Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's Sunday, May 27, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination. This is episode 412. This is no agenda. I'm linking up your tier 3 news source here at Camp Bofo in the capital of the drone star state. Austin Tejas in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it is a holiday, I'm John C. Dvorak. What they had to do with it? Oh, don't they own Skype now? I don't think this is Skype I think you just had me to potted potted down. No, I do not have you potted down. So whatever it is well John since Since you have no executive producers today people are gonna get what they pay for do we get to do more real news? Yes, and let's start off with the winner of the Eurovision Song Contest 2012 ladies and gentlemen

01:17 The winner from Sweden, with the worst possible song you can imagine. This is Laurie. With Euphoria. Have you seen the video yet? You don't know what you're missing. Well, let me go look. Please, not worth it. Well, at least I want to see what this woman looks like. Nah, she's kind of like a witch. Which is just listen to the song it's like Gx2 kicks this ass anytime. This is like you know Everyone who was voted very good. What's that? She's not an attractive person no, but listen to the song It's like it's like an Ibiza hit yeah Somehow she outdistance Russia and Serbia according to the Hollywood reporter. Yes somehow. How is it possible? I?

02:21 So the we do this every year because I like doing it because it's so stupid I like it because you actually I think you actually enjoy it. Oh, I enjoy it as a guilty passion and What's always fun is to if you can I'm just baffled by the fact that there's not exploited in the United States It's not as if they would get the big ratings of American Idol But it would but it is just it's a classic one of these shows that would get attention. I Well, the music is so bad. That's really enjoyment in watching. You have to understand from the real fun perspective of watching this, and I've witnessed this from two countries, from the Netherlands, where the Netherlands always thinks they've got something good and it sucks balls. It's so horrible what the Netherlands always sends.

03:11 Then the United Kingdom it really started with Terry Wogan because you know you have the show But then you have the local announcers for each country kind of like a sporting event They sit there and they talk over what's going on so you know they're in their little booths and because the United Kingdom I think they won Once I think with Brotherhood of Man Save Your Kisses for Me and Why Do I Know This? But then they're always at the bottom, like always completely at the bottom. And Terry Wogan would make jokes about the political nature, you know, Cyprus always votes 12 points for Greece, Greece always votes 12 points for Cyprus. It's always like this, you know, it's a political thing. And again, and now Graham Norton has taken over, who's very funny.

03:56 and they sent Engelbert Humperdinck in the last ditch effort to really try and do something. He came in one above the bottom spot, Engelbert Humperdinck, almost in last place. But the thing is, Is that this is a the Eurovision Song Contest is supposed to be about the song it is also not just about Europe it is about the Union European Union of broadcasters, which it can include more than just countries in Europe now of course the irony is Of the word euro is that Sweden won, Sweden doesn't even use the euro. That's just irony right there. That is quite funny. But listen to the NPR report and then think about what you should be doing. Oh, they actually did a report on this? Oh yeah, yeah. But now the reporter... They would. Is not only a reporter... Well, the EU, I mean the European Broadcasters Union

04:52 is meant to popularize and to promote public broadcasting. So NPR or PBS actually could easily be on board with this. Yeah. But it's a very expensive proposition, particularly if you're the country that wins. So, you know, Spain was like, please don't win. Don't win. We can't afford to host this. Right. That was a good one. Can't afford to host it. Please don't. No, please suck. Don't don't win. So this is your national treasure. And listen to the factual incorrectness of this report. Just to show that you know if you're giving money to them you need to turn off your podcast right now and go shoot yourself or donate to this program here's how dumb and uninformed NPR is about this event which has been going on for 40 years. I think it's well known seven. No, it's well known how this works. This is a week when Europeans stop wrong. It's wrong. It's not Europeans. I

05:52 It's not just Europe, Israel participates. Is that a European country, idiot? Can forget about the debt crisis and politics for a moment and throw themselves into rooting for their home country. It's like, who wrote this? Who did this report? This is NPR. Somebody who can't use Google. Eurovision 2012 is underway. About a half a billion viewers are expected to tune in for the finale on Saturday. The song contest began in the 1950s. Notice she's saying song contest, right? It's always been about the song. ...50s and each country that's competing is represented by a single singing group or artist.

06:30 Eurovision is being staged this year in Baku, Azerbaijan. And that's where we reached William Lee Adams. He's a writer for Time Magazine and also editor-in-chief of WeWeBlogs.com. That's the site dedicated to covering the Eurovision contest. Okay, so this is the guy who's the authority. They've gone to the authority. Not only does he write a blog, That is the authority all about the Eurovision Song Contest, but he also writes for Time Magazine and he's a reporter for NPR. And we reached him at his hotel in Baku. Welcome. Good morning. This song itself is kind of appalling, but Eurovision isn't about the best song, it's about the best act. How can it be? What is this guy hanging out in Azerbaijan for? Well, he's getting paid by NPR to report, and the first thing he says

07:26 This isn't about the best song, it's about the best act. No it's not, you douchebag. I'm gonna just douche him. I mean this is elemental stuff. Anyway, good in the morning to you John. In the morning you Adam Curry in the morning all ships at sea boots on the ground subs in the water Rubbers on the road. That's right all the human resources in the chat room know agenda stream calm know agenda chat net good to see y'all here on this Memorial Day weekend which is a should today well not in a get my nation United States of get my nation probably 80% of our audience

08:04 That's not 80%. Yeah, it is. It's 83%. What are you talking about? It's 83% of our audience. Well, I cherish the 17 remaining percent. I like the other percentage too, but I didn't see them pony up for today's show. Nobody gives a crap about these holiday shows. That's what I've been saying for four years, but you insist on doing them. So you're saying we just shouldn't do it at all? On a holiday like this? Yeah. We would bring in the same amount of no money. Nobody's gonna donate to become an executive producer on a show that they're not gonna listen to. Because they're on the road, they're driving around, they're jumping in the pool, they're in a boat. Barbecuing. They're barbecuing, they're doing something other than listening to the show so they're not gonna hear themselves get mentioned in the mention as an executive producer. So why

08:53 Would they do it? They would do it maybe in a week or so when they'll be listening to the show. Nobody listens to this show. I wish I could get actual numbers. That's the problem with the internet and podcasts is your numbers are always a little, you never know what they really are. It's not like, well you don't really know what they're on TV either but it convinces that they do. But the point is that we have a sparse audience. It's probably half of what it normally is. Now we got about half as much money as we normally do. We could always just use a couple of the illegal words. Maybe we'll get the Department of Homeland Security to listen to us. I'm sure you heard about this, the analyst desktop binder.

09:32 Actually, is this new? Yeah, well, yeah, it is new. Is it real new? Because I knew that this was going on for a while. Yeah, so now I have the PDF. This is the Department of Homeland Security National Operations Center Media Monitoring Capability Desktop Preference Binder. And this was obtained under Freedom of Information Act request. And so we know that they were, that their Department of Homeland Security is now monitoring social networks, news channels, just basically monitoring everything and compiling reports to send back to home base so we can get a temperature of the threat of terrorism and stuff like that. And so there's a published report now

10:21 That has a number of things I mean the reporting was like oh, there's hundreds of words you can if you use those words You'll you'll you'll get a call from Department of Homeland Security, so I'm like why don't I just read the entire desktop binder? So you don't have to what this is about is items of interest so-called IO eyes and an item of interest and so they have different levels of things that are interesting to them. Top of the list of course terrorism. What? Including media reports on the act so if you have a media report about the activities of terrorist organizations then they will capture that and report that back to home base. Reports about nuclear there's about 14 of them. Cyber security interestingly at the bottom of the list and let me just

11:11 Bring I'm not still not getting this is you do me yet if I say the word terrorist or I write I say a terrorist was discovered by blog it I get I'm in a report now. Well not necessarily because under Section 2.6. They have credible sources for corroboration, and this is what's interesting that mean I'm going to explain so a first-tier source So they don't just monitor social networks. They monitor all media and A first-tier source is one that does not typically need corroboration prior to release. So that means they hear something on a first-tier news source and they don't have to go and check it. They don't have to vet it because sources that construct the first-tier platform include major news networks such as CNN and Fox.

12:00 Major newspapers, USA Today, The Washington Post, and international news such as BBC and the International Herald Tribune. Here it says these sources do not need additional corroboration prior to release. Right, so what do you mean prior to release? What does this mean prior to release? What's being released? The dogs? The internal report. The internal reporting to Department of Homeland Security. Oh, so if the BBC says something then it gets released immediately? Yes, then it gets released back to home base and they'll say, yeah, BBC's reporting on this and they don't have to corroborate it. So that of course is bullcrap because we know that... Oh, if I got a BBC report today that is total bullcrap.

12:42 These reports coming out of Syria, well we don't know if this video means anything but... It doesn't matter, that will go straight into the Department of Homeland Security. Now, what's interesting John... Blogs, podcasts, even if they are of a serious political nature are a third tier. That's us. That's where tier three must be verified. You can say whatever you want. It's even better though. Must be verified by a first tier source prior to release. So whatever we say, unless CNN says, yeah, that's how it's going down, then it doesn't count. So you're right. Now, you want to know some of these words? Yeah. Okay, alphabetical order. I'll just pick a couple categories. Domestic security, the words assassination, attack, domestic security, drill, exercise, cops, law enforcement, cops, you can't say cops. You can't say cops? Shots fired. Shots fired. Organized crime, gangs, national security, breach, threat, standoff, SWAT, screening,

13:46 Now for Southwest border violence, words that are going to be tracked are words like gang, drug, narcotics, El Paso. Don't say El Paso. Terrorism words. AQAP, AQIM, TTP. My goodness. AQIM? Wait, Al Qaeda in Michigan. Exactly. Islamic Maghreb. TTP. Tariq-e-Taliban. Pakistan. Somalia, Nigeria, radicals, Al-Shabaab, homegrown, nationalist, fundamentalist, Islamist. So somebody's writing about homegrown weed. Yeah. It gets tagged. Yeah, but it won't get sent to home base unless CNN reports. Yeah, the New York Times talks about homegrown weed. But here's the cool stuff. So effective January 7, 2011, there's a privacy impact assessment

14:45 allowing the media monitoring capability to collect and disseminate PII for certain narrowly tarot categories. So there are certain things they will never report on. So the things they definitely report on and people, US and foreign individuals, senior US and foreign government officials who make public statements, US and foreign government spokespersons, names of anchors, newscasters, or on-scene reporters who are known or identified as reporters in their post or article, or who use traditional and or social media in real time to keep their audience situationally aware and informed, i.e. Randy Corvin, but then the people they will never report on, not approve, you may, we will not report on individuals suspected or accused of committing crimes of national or homeland security interest if captured,

15:36 So if they capture you then there's no report sent out. We will not report on private citizens if they are a witness or in some other way connected to an event and we will never report on high profile people such as celebrities, sports figures or media members. What? Because they're in on the game apparently. Well Clooney is but... Yeah, high profile celebrities and sports figures won't get reported on if they say it's like terrorism. I guess they're vetted. They're good to go. Okay, well I don't know. It seems like just another bureaucratic memo written by someone who didn't have anything to do that day and his boss was hounding him to get some work done and fill out his logs because the logs are pretty sparse and he hasn't been doing much and the $225,000 they're paying him so he sat down and wrote this up.

16:39 Even better, he made screenshots to show you how to enter your information into the log. That was the next day. On their system, yeah. He did that the rest of the week. Alright, tell me about your bullcrap report for the BBC on Syria. Well, let's see. Well, let me go. Well, you caught me off guard. Thank you. Oh, well, you brought it up. Yeah, but I was I didn't know we're going to go right in and let me just go to my account and get the list of really weird. I got like your that's weird. I got your a lot of your clips double here. Interesting. No, really? Yeah, it's all right. I'll just take out the doubles.

17:18 I know how to drag stuff. I just did it, I mean I essentially just... It's okay, I know how to drag stuff to the trash. I can figure it out. Yeah, there's a little can and sometimes it's a good idea to empty the trash. Oh really? How do you do that? You right-click. Oh, you can't do that with a Mac, so you just trash the state. I'm so pussy-whipped, Mickey makes me empty her trash. Really? I'm sorry. Yeah, I show no doubles here. That's alright. Alright, we're good. I have Muddy's BBC report. Okay, I got to see what we got forget the muddy BBC report. Yeah, this is the classic one here this money money BBC you have to This is the audio is not as good as the video. They show this one of these phony baloney You know unverified reports and they talk about it, but it's a guy some guy screaming into his camera He's like one of these guys on the on the YouTube that is you're trying to make a point by getting real close to a webcam and screaming at you and

18:16 So he's screaming at you and then they show it, then it's all jerky and then it's black and then you can't see shit. Hello again, opposition activists in Syria say more than 50 people have been killed and 100 wounded in what they describe as a massacre carried out by the army in Homs province. Videos which have not been verified show many children among the dead after shelling in the town of Hule. The BBC's Middle East correspondent Jim Muir has this report from Beirut. Unverifiable video posted on the internet by activists showed the blood-stained and mangled bodies of many children huddled on the floor in the dark with the commentator shouting that there were too many to count and more kept arriving. Too many to count and more were coming. Well this whole Syria thing is heating up because Ban Ki-moon, the director, secretary general of the United Nations

19:09 Came out and I couldn't get any audio of it, but he came out and said oh boy here we go Very alarmingly and surprisingly. He's so surprised a few days ago. There was a huge serious massive terrorist attack I believe that there must be al-qaeda behind it so so now the they've changed the narrative because you know the whole Syrian opposition coalition fell apart and You know the main guy left and this is like this yeah, they gave up. Yeah, there is no there is no opposition yet somehow Excuse me fighting continues, so now it's like oh crap. We don't have any guys to talk to we don't have any dudes to elect What are we gonna? Do you know and someone said someone came with a brilliant idea? I know

20:01 Al-Qaeda, yeah that'll give us a reason to go in. And the BBC's, but the BBC's noticing the irony here in this, I got another report which is the Al-Qaeda in Syria one, which I want to run this and now you have to make a comment about it because it was quite a funny clip. Okay. Support that. So does Al-Qaeda. Ironically they're on the same side in Syria. Western governments worry if they intervene in this, will the wrong people benefit? The Nusra Front emerged with an internet video earlier this year. They say they are jihadis, back from other wars to fight in Syria. We don't know if this video is genuine.

20:49 But some believe this is the future in Syria. The numbers were quite small at the beginning, but they have grown in this time. The hard element of the opposition, the armed, the combat-experienced people who come up from either Libya or Iraq, not only are at the vanguard, but they are actually pushing out all other forms of opposition. The regime says that this is the result They blame bombings in Damascus on Islamists, though the Nusra Front deny they did this. Some Syrians did go to Iraq to fight. Did they come back with al-Qaeda's ideology? Abu Laila fought in Iraq. He says he was defending his tribe, which is found in both countries.

21:44 Despite appearances, he doesn't like Al-Qaeda. He fears them. And he says he doesn't believe they are behind the recent bombings. This lie has been used over and over by the regime, he says. I wish they'd come up with something new. The regime lies all the time. They even lie about the weather. The bombings are done by the regime. Many fighters are deeply pious, but there's a moderate tradition of Islam here, at odds with Al-Qaeda's harsh ideology. The daily suicide attacks and beheadings so familiar from Iraq have not yet come to Syria. Yet! It's coming! That'll be the sequel. You know, before you say something, John, in listening to that report,

22:36 What I find so great is they edit it and whenever there you know, there's a little pause they always do an explosion So I think we should just do that from time to time just because it kind of catches your attention It makes you feel like oh, oh wow. Something's going on. So let's talk about this clip for a second John so this guy this guy at the end that was talking who is supposedly he was a tribesman he went to Iraq because his tribe also apparently is in Syria and Iraq and Iraq. Iraq. And the tribe is in both places. The guy meanwhile for this tribesman that he claims to be is wearing a Saudi headdress. It's not really. It's a red one you know the red and white checkers. Mm-hmm. Which is very specifically Saudi. And he was, they showed him shooting a gun I guess you know.

23:32 Like that. Meanwhile this gun had about a one foot kick. I swear. Really? I don't know what it was. Cool. But he had it up against his eye and on the scope thing and the thing kicks him busts him in the head. He's got a black eye basically. Really? What a bonehead. What a bonehead. He didn't know what he was doing. It was a shill. So he was from Iran. Yeah. It's a stretch. I know it's a stretch. It's a stretch. I tried. I got it though. I'm always looking. Well, you know, all of this is about to change dramatically. And by the way, they showed this group, this Nusfra group I never heard of, some new group they've introduced and they had this video of them dancing. They were dancing to that music and the guy said, this is the future of Syria. So this is about to change dramatically. There's a new group on the scene, John. New group on the scene. And I picked this up via the YouTube blog.

24:34 And here it is, a new human rights channel on YouTube. I'll give you a little excerpt here from the blog post. From its inception, YouTube has been a platform for free expression. Yeah, and cat videos. Activists around the world use YouTube to document causes they care about and make them known to the world. In the case of human rights, which we'll be talking about later on this show, video plays a particularly important role in illuminating what occurs when governments and individuals in power use their positions. I can smell Lucifer's drippings all over this. That's why our non-profit partner, Witness,

25:14 a global leader in the use of human of video for human rights and Storyful, a social news gathering operation are joining forces to launch a new human rights channel on YouTube dedicated to curating hours of raw citizen video documenting human rights stories that are uploaded daily and distributed that distributing that to audiences hungry to learn and take action. So, uh, I'm like, okay. You need a machine gun in there too. Yeah, I'll get one. So, uh, this of course, uh, has the hoof prints of Hillary on it. So if you go to, uh, Storyful, and Storyful is storyful.com. S-T-O-R-Y-F-U-L.com.

26:03 Very sparse information, of course it's a non-profit based in Ireland and has absolutely no information about their non-profit status on their website. Storful's team of professional journalists, oh what? Professional journalists separate actionable news from the noise of the real-time web. Ah, okay. These are the Randy Corvin's that we have now. What is his name? Andy, Randy, Andy. We work with professional news clients acting as a social media field producer. Oh, they're freelancers. Yeah, exactly. Your freelance video guys, the worst. That's the worst job in the world. But now the real organization that is paying these guys is witness. Oh, shoot. There we go. Sorry. What'd you do? My mouse got stuck.

26:52 Here we go. Witness.org. This is also, now they do have their 501c3 corporation so they don't have to mention their donors. They do have a list of all their donors in the form 990. They have like 13 donors. They brought in $3 million in 2010. They do not have their 2011 numbers up yet. 13 million? Three. Three million in 2010. So they don't have their 2011 numbers up. But this comes from 10 individuals who are not named, each donating about $100,000. Yeah. Okay, sure. Witness is an international non-profit organization that uses the power of video and storytelling to open the eyes of the world to human rights abuses.

27:41 It was, and this is Peter Gabriel's Human Rights First Foundation and the Reebok Human Rights Foundation who started it. As far as I can tell they're no longer involved. Yeah, they've been co-opted out. But look at the board of directors. Okay, about us mm-hmm. Oh, yeah board of directors Let's see got a Goldman Sachs guy on here International Human Rights funders group which of course is a crappy thing I can't scroll down on a second this is JavaScript they should pay a little extra money for that But so while you're looking at that if it comes up what they actually do you can hire them and

28:21 Because I saw it's part of a public relations operation exactly so they have something called campaigns and they say Human rights organizations are increasingly interested in employing video to advance and strengthen their advocacy But many groups are not equipped or experienced enough to make the most of video and other forms of media witness engages with human rights organizations our campaign partners still the chair Sorry, oh it is I didn't see that yeah Peter Gabriel chair co-founder of witness activists and musician So they have campaign partners, which is basically clients in intensive campaign specific relationships So let's look at the list here They have such incredible human rights abuses that they've reported on such as National Council on aging this bullcrap that you can just go hire these guys to go make some videos a la Kony

29:14 And they put it together for you. Yeah. And if you look at the YouTube channel... See it, film it, change it. Yeah, exactly. And if you look at the YouTube channel, which is... What is it? Should be see it, say it, film it, change it. YouTube.com slash human rights. It's completely professional slick video. There's no raw unedited footage. It's beautifully lit. The sound is perfect. Human rights all one word? Yeah. You know here's on the front line in Bahrain. I'll just click this one. That's the top one. Let's see. Frontline Defenders. Human rights? YouTube.com slash human rights? Yeah. My name is Zainab Abdelhadi Al-Khawaja and

30:05 Oh, I see what the problem is. Yeah, some call it a techno expert. It's just all professional, beautifully shot video. Well, who gives a crap about her no one but that's the point is they're gonna kick it up a notch And you're gonna see a lot more of these videos produced by this outfit with the other just basically yeah They're essentially just setting it up to roll it out. This is a exactly and placeholder now You should explain to people what freelance videographer video people do Storyful this is like one of the if you're watching the daily news like your local news every so often there'll be a report

30:51 From Washington DC from the from I am Bill such-and-such from you know my look your local station in Washington DC the guy doesn't work for the local station He's a freelancer. Stringer. That's what we call him. Stringer. Yeah, well, freelancers... stringers, what they tend to... stringers, yeah, stringers are... well, there's actually kind of a little difference between stringers and freelancers. Pure freelancers are usually always sell... have something to sell, and stringers are usually somebody you call up. Let's say, can you give me a report from... Okay, a good distinction. So the freelancers, they're making reports and they're saying, alright, here, use mine, buy mine, buy mine. Yeah, so they essentially, they'll be at some big event at Davos.

31:39 Yeah, right and they got the truck. Oh, that's your typical. That's your typical freelancer right there Yeah, they got a truck usually with a satellite dish on top and you'll see these things driving around and they have most of the time you'll see it's ABC News it'll say Kron news but if it says nothing, it's just a white truck. It's It's a freelancer. It says nothing. That's a freelancer. And it's a lot of people consider it the hardest thing in the world to do because you are essentially have to buy all this expensive equipment. Many don't even have any, but they just set it up themselves as one person. Sometimes a two man operation generally is one person. Camera and sound.

32:17 Yeah, they set up by they got like a dummy or something they put in there make they set the camera up and then they go over and push the button stand in front like news one Channel one in New York. Yeah, it's like hilarious. They would you see him along the side of the road? It's like there's a camera pointing at some guy the microphone, and there's nobody else there the camera just going hey. What is stop laughing? That's how I do my big book show okay? It's not that funny You can have Mickey come in and hold the camera. I just say, hold on, we're going to get the show rolling in a second. Let me just start the camera. Yeah, it's pretty lame. Yeah, it is. Of course, you know, Leo's operation, the Twitch show. Started that way. He started that way. Well, he still doesn't have any cameramen. He has 40 cameras. I think this is the future in some ways. There's small studios. He just has 40 cameras. They're everywhere.

33:11 And so you just set them all up to begin with and then you just you got a guy running the switcher and you're just switching between the cameras but no there's no cameraman. So the woman running this witness.org is Albredink Thijm. I think she's Dutch. Her bio is interesting. Nearly two decades of experience in media and new technology. We could have run this outfit John. Most recently she served as executive vice president of content and strategy and acquisition at Juiced. Yeah, how'd that work out? Does anyone remember juiced the global online video platform formed by Nicholas Zenn's Zennstrom and Jonas Friis founders of Skype that you took me it took me till now to remember what I remember juiced Yeah, you would get a juiced it was gonna be the next big thing. It was television It was what it's what it was gonna be TV. This is television on the web juiced. Oh

34:05 We all like you download this thing and then they had all these they had these screwed up your computer weird because I remember when it first came out I Downloaded and I turned it on I watched like two minutes of it And I turned it off and I never went back ever remember I screwed up your computer and reset your video card to the wrong size There's all kinds of weird stuff. Yeah, it's always a problem Anyway, prior to that she ran, she was the executive VP of business affairs for MTV Networks International. So this woman has like, you know, she's like cool. She's cool. But she has a point to prove because basically she failed the juiced. Yeah, I'll get him now. Show him who's cool. Awesome human rights videos.

34:50 Yeah, this is a loser. Yeah, well I think we're gonna see a lot more high quality or comparatively speaking because you know it's not as effective as that crap they show on the BBC. Well why don't we... Jerk, herky jerk camera and... We can do this on the green screen John. Yeah, I know you can. Yeah, you do some screaming. Man, just slap in some video. I just have Mickey go out and just roll the camera around a little shaky like on 6th Street in Austin. Running, running, running, running. Why don't they cut that out? Stop running. The guys are running with the camera running and all they see is their feet. This is the ministry of truth. Have you seen that shot? Yeah, of course I've seen it. Stupid. Completely stupid. I know. I know. Ay yi yi yi yi yi. So, wow, I did do a lot of work actually.

35:55 And it's your fault. Why? What did I, what happened? I need to know so I can know, so I can plan in advance next time. Yeah. Okay. So you got, you got me started on this. We had an end of show clip. He also had a couple other clips about the eugenics and population control. And so just to summarize, you had a clip of a guy saying this, you know, this whole population thing in China is bull crap. In fact, China is now desperately needs more human resources. The one child, one child per family policy did already, well it failed, but it was already misreported. Whereas if you had two children from a single child family, one to have children, they could have more than one, but it's failed and they're in trouble. So I got kind of interested. Totally under reported by everyone.

36:57 So I got very underreported. It's ridiculous. So I got very interested in the whole, you know, because we talk about Bill and Melinda Gates being eugenicists, basically killing people in Africa with their vaccination programs. And although I've read a lot of stuff over the years, I really got into it. And what happened was we got one of our producers sent us a video of a guy being interviewed about his book. The book is titled merchants of despair link in the show notes at 412 dot na show notes calm the guy's name is Robert Zubrin

37:34 merchants of despair, radical environmentalists and other merchants of despair. I've taken a few clips from that interview and then I'll tell a little bit about the book which of course I read for you. ...out of resources but we have encountered considerable danger from people who say we're running out of resources and who say that human activities need to be constrained because there isn't enough to go around and so someone's got to be put into control. This has been a threat for some time and what I do in the book Merchants of Despair is go through the history of this movement over 200 years and show the horrendous results of their activities where they've been successful. So that is essentially what's in his book. He's saying that these merchants of despair have been misusing data for, well he goes back 200 years,

38:26 to essentially justify killing people. And the theory goes like this. The theory is that we're running out of... and you'll be very interesting in this analysis because you're just a little bit older than I am, so you'll remember some things better, certainly from the 70s. But the elites, which really started back with the... and it's hard to even imagine this... the Museum of Natural History in 1877, who set up the immigration restriction league which is essentially a database this is these are the guys that eventually shut down ellis island they believe

39:07 that there was going to be a population explosion and we'd run out of resources and then the entire world would fall apart and we'd all die. And so they said about through a number of very interesting ways and I have a couple of examples from the book that I want to put in front of you to basically kill people in many other countries except the United States but now it seems like we've kind of moved towards the United States as well And in his book, the entire first third of the book analyzes the fallacy of population growth being detrimental to the amount of resources. He says in fact quite the opposite because we have a lot of very smart human resources who are born and we have this population, we come up with great technologies and we are able to sustain ourselves

39:59 And that he believes, which is kind of crazy, but he believes that we could probably grow to six trillion instead of just six billion. We could grow to six trillion and still be able to sustain ourselves. So one other clip from the interview. Among the ongoing programs that they have are population control programs which involve forced sterilization of millions of women every year. Where's that happening? Africa, South America, India, Indonesia and that's under US pressure and in China under their own pressure. So the US is pressuring Indonesia to engage in forced sterilization. It's a condition of getting foreign aid funds. In the

40:38 In the 1960s, remnants of the pre-war eugenics movement reorganized around the slogan of population control. And they always fit their ideas to fit the time. So they said population control was necessary to win the Cold War, that excessive growth of population in the Third World would provide masses for the Communist World Revolution, and so that the U.S. should make population control part of its foreign policy. And in 1966, laws were passed that mandated that US foreign aid funds should be linked to population control. Johnson administration denied famine aid to India in 1967 unless Indira Gandhi implemented forced sterilization programs, which she did.

39:59 And that he believes, which is kind of crazy, but he believes that we could probably grow to six trillion instead of just six billion. We could grow to six trillion and still be able to sustain ourselves. So one other clip from the interview. Among the ongoing programs that they have are population control programs which involve forced sterilization of millions of women every year. Where's that happening? Africa, South America, India, Indonesia and that's under US pressure and in China under their own pressure. So the US is pressuring Indonesia to engage in forced sterilization. It's a condition of getting foreign aid funds. In the

40:38 In the 1960s, remnants of the pre-war eugenics movement reorganized around the slogan of population control. And they always fit their ideas to fit the time. So they said population control was necessary to win the Cold War, that excessive growth of population in the Third World would provide masses for the Communist World Revolution, and so that the U.S. should make population control part of its foreign policy. And in 1966, laws were passed that mandated that US foreign aid funds should be linked to population control. Johnson administration denied famine aid to India in 1967 unless Indira Gandhi implemented forced sterilization programs, which she did.

41:23 and this was then done in many other countries with horrific consequences in every place where it's been implemented it's always the dominant race in the local place doing it to the subservient race the Brahmans against the untouchables in Ceylon, the Sinhalese against the Tamils in Peru this has been horrific and it is still going on and obviously the Jews in Nazi Germany what you heard there and what's great about this book. is one third of it at the end is all references to what he's claiming and the references look pretty solid I have to say and of course I read it on the Kindle so you can actually bop out a lot of the online resources and it does indeed appear that USAID which of course is under control of Hillary Clinton has been saying for you know since the the Johnson administration oh you want some money from us you want or not even money but you want us to give our American companies money

42:22 So they can come and build stuff in your country. That's great, but you've got a force sterilize your population and he spoke about India the total is like 18 million women who you know had IUDs shoved into the very poor sanitation Environment and it's really it's quite unbelievable the things that you read and of course There's many things that we could do with the technologies that we've developed such as nuclear technology that are now being held back by the very same elitists who are in control and don't allow us to Make ourselves sustainable which of course plays right into their whole Script of killing people in order to keep enough resources for everybody in general their desire to control everything from the top is

43:11 has impaired numerous technologies that could improve the environment. Nuclear power, for example. I used to work in the nuclear industry and there was one plant that was having a certain problem which we knew exactly how to correct but we couldn't do it. The NRC wouldn't let us because it meant deviating from their regulations. genetically modified crops. They have genetically modified crops now that can produce their own pesticides and fix their own nitrates. So you don't need to spray pesticides into the environment and you don't need to scatter nitrate fertilizer on the land. They won't let you do it. Look, a lot of things they say are happening but are not problems.

43:54 Population growth is happening. It's not a problem. The world standard of living has gone up as population has increased. And not coincidentally, it means a larger market which allows people to introduce new technologies faster, a larger division of labor, a larger number of inventors coming up with new technologies. I mean, just think how much poorer we would be today if the world had had half as many people in the 19th century as it actually did. You can get rid of either Thomas Edison or Louis Pasteur. Take your pick. So he lost me a little bit on the genetic modification, but in his book he actually, I think he just got confused. He talks about bioengineering, which seems a little bit more plausible where he says, you know, there's ways to combine plants together so they can create their own pesticides. You don't actually need any pesticides. You don't need Monsanto to help you out.

44:42 You with me so far? Yeah, I'm listening. So in this book something a couple of things really stuck out. The main thing is something that you'll remember and if I say to you the words DDT what springs to mind? Well a couple of things. One it was the one of the greatest insecticides ever and the other ones that it made the shells of pelicans eggs thin. You nailed it. You nailed it. So DDT was actually invented in the late 1800s but not implemented until, according to the book now, but he has all the sources so it looks pretty valid, was not really used widely until right after the end of the Second World War. Germany was wrecking Italy's infrastructure and people got all kinds of diseases such as malaria, which of course is a huge problem now in Africa, and people were dying by the millions, literally,

45:40 And what they did is they got this powder, this DDT, and they sprayed it on people. Within a month, the death stopped with no obvious repercussions for humans. Yeah, in fact, there was a San Jose State professor who was a big DDT proponent. during the controversial era when they pulled it completely, although a lot of people stockpiled it. Okay, so... And he used to eat it. Yeah, and just to prove that it was okay. Yeah, he would have spoons full of it. So the guy wouldn't do it, but... So then a study came out, which of course was sponsored by the same elites who didn't want, who wanted population

46:22 who wanted to cull the human resources, because it was being used in Africa, it's being used everywhere, it was really cheap to make, you know, once you're making it in mass quantities, it was the miracle, the absolute miracle. Then all of a sudden we got the report that said, It'll cause cancer, it destroys the pelican population by the thinning of the eggs, and it hurts the algae in the sea. And he details in his book all of the actual report's results which really said it's not all that bad. In fact, you would have to have such massive quantities and you can die from water essentially. Such massive quantities for it to be harmful. But at this time Kennedy had just been assassinated. Johnson had just come into the White House and it was one of the eugenicists, Shills, who was, I guess they then started the EPA and he said,

47:16 We got to get rid of this is horrible and against the actual recommendation of the report overnight they stopped the use of DDT and 100 million people died since then because of malaria. And the propaganda campaign was so outstanding that I tried it on Mickey last night. How about DDT? So it kills people. This is what I remember DDT a horrible pesticide it kills people but it's quite the opposite. It was, as you said, one of the greatest inventions ever. So he takes this all the way and of course this originated the Club of Rome were really the guys who... Yeah, we're all gonna die by the year 2000. We're all gonna die by the year 2000. It's even better than that. So in 1972, the Club of Rome comes out with a report.

48:09 And you remember the population bomb? Do you remember that? Yeah, by Ehrlich or something. Ehrlich, exactly. Ehrlich. Who was Ehrlich's protege? Yeah, I think he was also on the global cooling bandwagon, which was the meme of the era from the same elitist pricks. So who was... We're all going to die from an ice age. Who was Ehrlich's protege? I actually should know that but I don't. John Holdren, Obama's current scientific advisor. Oh cool. He was Ehrlich's protege and in 72 they came out with this report we're gonna have a global ice age of course that didn't happen. They also said that we would run out of oil in 31 years.

47:16 We got to get rid of this is horrible and against the actual recommendation of the report overnight they stopped the use of DDT and 100 million people died since then because of malaria. And the propaganda campaign was so outstanding that I tried it on Mickey last night. How about DDT? So it kills people. This is what I remember DDT a horrible pesticide it kills people but it's quite the opposite. It was, as you said, one of the greatest inventions ever. So he takes this all the way and of course this originated the Club of Rome were really the guys who... Yeah, we're all gonna die by the year 2000. We're all gonna die by the year 2000. It's even better than that. So in 1972, the Club of Rome comes out with a report.

48:09 And you remember the population bomb? Do you remember that? Yeah, by Ehrlich or something. Ehrlich, exactly. Ehrlich. Who was Ehrlich's protege? Yeah, I think he was also on the global cooling bandwagon, which was the meme of the era from the same elitist pricks. So who was... We're all going to die from an ice age. Who was Ehrlich's protege? I actually should know that but I don't. John Holdren, Obama's current scientific advisor. Oh cool. He was Ehrlich's protege and in 72 they came out with this report we're gonna have a global ice age of course that didn't happen. They also said that we would run out of oil in 31 years.

48:54 Oh shucks. And it wasn't peak oil then, they didn't have the peak oil idea. No, no, no, no, no, no. It was we were going to run out. We're going to run out, exactly. We wouldn't have any. We're going to run out. So that was the 1972 report. One of the authors of that report was Jorg Rander. And as I'm doing my research last night, I come across a video of Jorg Rander from May 18th, from this year, who has just released a book. So this is the second book. It's called 2052, a global forecast for the next 40 years. So this is one of the guys who wrote that original report that said we're A, going to run out of oil, B, we're going to die of global cooling. And what do you think the results of his study in this book are, John? What do you think of it? The new book? Yeah. We're going to run out of oil and we're going to die of global warming.

49:49 The main message of 2052 is that humanity won't make it. We are not going to make a soft landing, we will basically run into an overshoot and collapse type of situation. Let's bring out the hookers. I'm gonna party for the next 40 years. Let's just snort and screw. These guys never give up. I like the fact that they have great propaganda machines and they use them to an extreme. And now of course we only have, I guess there's only three major

50:32 advertising and public relations agencies are all been bought up by you know these three massive companies yeah so Hill and Knowlton now is the same as that as one of another dozen companies so there's only three and so if you end it and this and there's if you look at the board of directors of these three massive companies proper Omnicron for one and WPP, Omnicon, Omnicon, Omnicon, Omnicon, Omnicon, WPP, and then there's a third one. And then there's a fourth smaller one. But these are, they own, they've been buying up all the advertising agencies. And one of these days we'll discuss this in more detail.

51:11 But they've been buying up all the advertising, public relations and research companies. And it's like to me, no matter who you hire nowadays, it's a conflict of interest because somebody on the other side has obviously got a company working within the same group. I mean, I had this let me just go just a bit aside a little just a little off track here since nobody's listening anyway. I was always, I'm always concerned about these consolidations of corporate, all these corporations because it creates, besides corruption and conflicts of interest, it's just a bad scene. It ruins, it just destroys markets. For example, Pearson Publishing, there used to be a really good business in writing computer books.

51:55 You can make a living. There was companies all over the place. You had several bestsellers. I had a couple that sold well. But now there's one. It's Pearson. Pearson bought up Macmillan. They bought up Simon & Schuster. They bought up Peach Pit Press. They bought up one after they bought every company. that makes computer books with the exception of maybe O'Reilly, who does this, you know, he's a specialist and I think McGraw-Hill still does some. But they essentially bought them all up and they bought Q and Q was the most interesting of the computer book manufacturers because they did all their books by work for hire. In other words, Q would, you'd bring out a, they'd bring out a book on say Excel spreadsheets and it would be, they'd just pay some writer to do it and then they'd bring the book out, they'd promote it to death

52:41 and then they would become the Bible royalties yeah oh they wouldn't pay royalties no it was it would work for hire it was just a straight-up deal cool that paid you five six thousand wasn't even that much money for to these poor writers yeah and they would get nothing so you'd go and I did this I sold a book you saw a book to Prentice Hall's one of their companies you sell it and here's the way it works here's the scam I have a idea for a book on you know left-handed mice And I left it in my side and one of the book companies within the organization will buy it. Like say Prentice Hall picks it up, say okay we'll run with this book but we don't think much of it. You're not gonna, you don't expect to get a lot of money. Then they do the book and all of a sudden I'm starting to make royalties. I'm making, the book becomes a runaway bestseller and I'm getting $10,000 a month. The next day, cue, cue.

53:32 will bring out the same book under this and they're still all owned by Pearson, the left-handed mouse book. They will push that book down the throats of the booksellers, pull my book, and they don't have to pay any more royalties. It's an unbelievable scam that just completely wiped out the computer book writers. So that's bad for the writers, but I think that the propaganda and the success of the propaganda, which started with global cooling, then it went, they used the So they used the oil thing, that didn't pan out. Then they said, oh, we have to get rid of people because the Communist Party will adapt them. That was a beauty. But it's true, right? That actually happened. I mean, they were actually saying, oh, you know, we have to sterilize people because otherwise... Now if you notice that meme has morphed into the Muslims are going to take over the world because they're breeding like

54:30 you know, dogs and cats. This is non-stop. Now, just as my own little sidetrack here to show you how the PR works, headline, German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity. I'm looking at this going, this is from Reuters, I'm like, oh really? Well, let me see. What's behind this report? Of course, this was released by a guy named Aulnach, who is head of the Institute for Renewable Energy Sources in Germany. They have like half a website. Basically, they create reports on demand. What do you want to say? Solar is better than nuclear? No problem, we'll get the data. How did they get this data? The data was based on information from the European Energy Exchange Bourse.

55:24 So it was based on futures trading, not on actual usage or production, but based on futures trading. So it's a complete lie. What? Yeah. It had the nerve to do that? Yeah. And Reuters picked it up with that headline. Oh yeah. Well, that's because again, these public relations firms are powerful and they're consolidated. That makes it even more dangerous. So now let me play the four solutions that the guy who was wrong 40 years ago, one of the guys, For his new book, where we're all going to die, it's going to collapse if unless you follow the Club of Rome's recommendations. And he starts off by the way, which he actually says twice in this, he says this is code. I'm like what? You're giving me code so I can actually decipher this code? So before he gets into a solution, listen very carefully to this fourth bit about where the world is headed and what and he's

56:21 He has a boner over it, literally. He's smiling, he's like, heheheheh. Finally I should say that the 2052 forecast covers a multitude of additional aspects. This is propaganda from the publisher. It's propaganda from the pub? It's propaganda! Here comes the propaganda, thank you. You know we should make you aware of the fact that it's worth reading the book because it talks about the split of the EU in the 2010s. The split of the EU in 2020? That's interesting. It talks about how urban life will be in 2040s. It talks about the future by military and biodiversity of CSR and the fifth cultural step and the future role of self-programming robots which is really the interesting end to all of this. Self-programming robots which is really the interesting end to all of this. What? That's what he said. The end of all of this is self-programming. This is the

57:23 Transhumanization of technology. This is what they want Then we won't need people stupid cannon fodder and by the way this stupid University over here Singularity University yeah, it's all in all about this It's all about this these are the and most of these guys are too dumb to realize this is what the Unabomber warned against I hate to play the Unabomber card. So here is... Yeah, that's bringing... Unabomber what? I hate to play the Unabomber card on you, but yeah, he was a Harvard mathematician. I just want to point that out. Did you see what he did on his Harvard alumni Facebook page? What he did? Yeah, because they sent out... They let him use Facebook? Yeah, and then he posted status prisoner.

58:14 This is someone else. I don't know. It's just Harvard trying to get some press. So here's the four... Prisoner. Here's the four solutions to our ultimate and apparently unavoidable demise. What should be done? Four recommendations. And they're very obvious. Do you want to guess them, the obvious recommendations? Well, yeah, we've got to stop CO2 emissions, we have to do population control, we have to have global governance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know what the... You're close enough, let's listen. But they are starting to take on some stronger

58:56 importance I think now. First of all we're back to the thing that have have fewer children is one of the you know try to further reduce the growth of the population. Kill people, kill, reduce children, kill all humans. And of course it's especially in the rich world where it's important. That's you and me, baby. It's in the rich world. We must kill people in the rich world. To get the number of children down. You know. Listen, he's so evil he'll even kill his own child. My daughter has a footprint which is at least 10 times as big as an Indian daughter.

59:33 and so you know she is much more dangerous than... She's dangerous? Kill her! She's the first one to go! Kill your daughter douchebag! ...an Indian. Secondly, reduce the ecological footprint and particularly the footprint from people like IAEA or rich societies like Holland because it's the footprint of those nations that need to be lowered because everyone is aiming to be in that situation. So, breathe less? This footprint thing is annoying. Yeah. That it caught on and it's a meme is just disgusting. It means basically one thing, stop using fossil fuels. Ah, stop. This is your global warming. No, it's as simple as that. It's as simple as that. It's as simple as that. Thirdly,

1:00:24 construct a modern low-carbon energy system in the poor world for the poor world paid for by the rich world. Okay, cap and trade! There we go. Let me be the middleman taking the money from you and paying it to them and I'll take my piece. Exactly. This is the simplest fashion of development aid. It is so simple, can you not see it in front of your eyes? Don't even read my book, it is simple. That we can do. Just start building the windmills and the solar... Just start building windmills! ...plants and the gas with CCS etc etc... ...plants that is actually going to produce relatively low carbon... Yes, this is very simple. ...energy for the third world. And finally, this is code... It's code! It's code!

1:01:15 John, are you paying attention? He said it's code? Yes, he said it's code. I thought he said it was cold. Like, oh, it's cold in here. No, he said it's code. This is code. So you must pay attention to my code. Finally, this is code. Strengthen the global ability to act fast in order to accelerate the effort to improve the living conditions for our grandchildren. In order to... Global governance. It's code for global governance. Shut up, slave! and reduce your footprint. And that's why you should go to Dvorak.org slash NA.

1:01:57 Help keep the show on the air because we're not going to keep it on the air if the donations are this minimal We had no executive producers today now because again of course I my real Complaint is that we're doing the show at all, but not today. Okay? Let me remind you again. How you can help out this program so you can get this invaluable information for org slash and a So now, you know, there's many, many examples in this book. And I think it's well done. It's a short read. Again, link in the show notes. I have not read his 400 page tome, but I will. So you don't have to just because I'm sure I can pick up some great quotes from it. But these are the guys near the Club of Rome. These are the guys and Rockefeller, JP Morgan. They're the ones that funded this. And they really, really believe, contrary to real evidence,

1:02:49 scientific evidence, empirical evidence, that more population does not eat up all the resources. And they've been wrong. They've been continuously wrong, but they just keep going back at it. And this is the World Wildlife Fund, this Greenpeace, there's all these guys who are in on the game and they really believe we just got to kill people. And the amount of people they have killed through forced Sterilization is staggering. literally staggering and so when you think about well and while you're talking about that although I just closed my thing there is a scandal going on right now with this with bad malaria drug vaccinations or have you heard about this no and this is it makes you really wonder why this is happening and who's behind it and just a not that I'm not changing the subject here it's the same subject but play the clip that I have

1:03:53 making and selling fake anti-malaria drugs should be treated as crimes against humanity, say the authors of a new study into the problem. The researchers from the US National Institute of Health found that over a third of the anti-malaria drugs available in Southeast Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa are either fake or of such bad quality, they can make the problem worse. The study links the spread of fake drugs to the spread of drug-resistant forms of malaria, which have begun to spread in areas such as Cambodia and Thailand. For more on this, we're speaking with Dr. Steve Bjorgi, who's head of the Malaria Program in Cambodia for the World Health Organization. That's good enough. He joins me now.

1:04:32 So this is exactly what he details in his book that the United States through USAID would buy up and this is douchebag I'd have to go back to the book to find his name but this douchebag who was running the joint who would buy up medication or vaccinations that were either not approved or proven defective for use in the United States and he'd ship millions over there with one needle and say you've got to take this you know every three months so of course people be using the same needle and you know all set up to kill people and here's the same thing why not use DDT the science empirical evidence is there that DDT worked it was a miracle. Because of obvious reasons they don't want to solve the problem. No but this is where I think

1:05:21 Now Bill and Melinda Gates, you know, they should be in the crosshairs. They are eugenicists. They're using the same language that's been used for 200 years. The same exact thing. They may believe it, but they're incorrect I think. Well, I mean Bill who used to show up at users groups, is now essentially a elitist hanging out in Davos with world leaders and red carpet treatment everywhere it goes. There's a guy who eschewed, I caught him one time in, I guess it was in the late 80s, getting out of a limo and I said, you're in a limo. And he said, yeah, regrettably, he didn't like limos. He liked taking public transportation, roaming around, of course you can't do that

1:06:07 anymore at all, but now he's got two limos when he goes anywhere. I'm glad no one's listening because you told this story on... Yeah, I know and you're not gonna honk the horn. But the guys he hangs out with now, he will not... you'll never see him at a user... you'll never see him with the... he is now an elitist. He's been welcomed into their ranks. So what I found interesting in your little clip there was the quote, this is a violation of human rights. And this is a pet peeve of mine, this whole human rights business and what it is. And I will remind people again to go check out the interview I did with the Columbia professor. It's in the show notes as well, 412.nashownotes.com. So on Friday, let me bring out her jingle. Hold on, where is she? You know what I'm talking about, obviously.

1:07:01 Here she is. Yes, the behooved one, ladies and gentlemen. Lucifer Hillary Clinton. with her trident and her horns. That's kind of a contrast to the way we think. No kidding. The way we do it. So people who listen to our show, you're not getting, you're definitely not getting the party line. No. So she came out with, well I'll give you her announcement. This is the announcement of the country reports on human rights practices. Now this is not a PDF you could just download. Hillary, stop clippity-clopping.

1:07:59 This is an interactive database so you can select a country and select the reports you want. This is cool, where is this? It's at state.gov and they may have a direct URL. It's a really complicated... Yeah, forget it. Just tell us. The Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor. So you can select the country. So of course I selected the Netherlands. I selected the UK. Man, the UK, they're bad. Oh boy, you are violating human rights. So here's her intro to this report, which she's very proud of. I snipped out some irrelevant bits just so you can get the fun stuff. Good morning. Good morning, everyone. Hello.

1:08:41 I'm very pleased to be joined here today by Assistant Secretary Posner to release our 2011 country reports on human rights practices. These reports, which the United States government has published for nearly four decades, make clear to governments around the world we are watching and we are holding you accountable. on you! Yes, you know what could happen? We came, we saw, he died. Yes, we've got our eye on you. And they make clear to citizens and activists everywhere, you are not alone, we are standing with you. Now as you know, this has been an especially tumultuous and momentous year for everyone involved in the cause of human rights.

1:09:38 Now, notice she's going to start mixing it up. Many of us that have dominated recent headlines from the revolutions in the Middle East to reforms in Burma began with human rights. Human rights. With the clear call of men and women demanding their universal rights. Wait a minute, human rights, universal rights, human rights? Hmm. We will support people everywhere who seek the same. Men and women who want to speak, worship, associate, love the way they choose. Ah, there's the gay meme. We will defend their rights, not just on the day we issue these reports, but every day.

1:10:19 We're expanding access to technology and defending internet freedom because people deserve the same rights online as off. Oh, these human rights must be amazing! And we know that in the 21st century, human rights are not only a question of civil and political liberties. It's about the fundamental question of whether people everywhere have the chance to make the most of their God-given potential. Ah, that sounds like a just-getting-by thing. Now as these reports document, there is a lot of work that remains to be done. In too many places, governments continue to stifle their own people's aspirations. And in some places, like Syria,

1:11:10 It is not just an assault. That's the only country she highlighted, interestingly enough. On freedom of expression or freedom of association, but an assault on the very lives of citizens. The Assad regime's brutality against its own people must and will end because Syrians know they deserve a better future. Well, there's the shot across the bow. It's always been bewildering to me that so many government leaders don't want to make the most of the human potential of their own people and so she's laughing there oh yeah no she's laughing she is she's literally smiling throughout the whole thing it's so bewildering but expect this to be

1:11:56 reading material everywhere, but I do hope somewhere in the corner of my mind that maybe a leader will pick it up and say, how do we compare? Yeah, well he's pooping. I gotta take a crap. Oh, what's this? Let me read this report here. How do we compare with others? And what can we do today, tomorrow and next year that will maximize the potential of more of our citizens? So interestingly enough, the only country you cannot get a human rights report on is, oh yeah, the United States. So China came out immediately and criticized a woeful human rights record in the United States. The Chinese are so annoyed by us. And you know, there's some other elements that we're going to get into later, but like the Louisiana prison system, some of these things happen. By the way, the Louisiana prison system itself has nine times more prisoners than all of China.

1:12:54 Exactly. So they said a day after this report comes out, which said Beijing's record is getting worse. Beijing said, quote, the United States tarnished human rights record has left it in no state, whether on a moral, political or legal basis to act as the world's human rights justice. They said in their annual report on US human rights, I have not been able to find a translated version, but the report cited the arrests of protesters, particularly in the Occupy Wall Street movement in the United States. Many protesters, it said, accused the police of brutality. The United States also has strict restrictions on the internet, saying the US Patriot Act and Homeland Security Act both have clauses about monitoring the internet, giving the government or law enforcement organizations power to monitor and block any internet connection are harmful to national security. So I figured the best thing we could do for our show, John,

1:13:46 Since this is bandied about and I will remind you the interview was with Columbia professor Samuel Moyn his book The Last Utopia Human Rights in History. It's in the show notes 412.na show notes.com take a look at that because he explains where this comes from and the first written documentation of Human rights was 1948 by our friends there at the United Nations. It is called the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. And since it's being bandied about so much, I would think that every citizen should know their human rights. Do you know how many universal human rights you have, John? Do you know how many articles there are? Well, let me think. Ten. No, there's 30. Let me guess again. Let me guess again. No, I already told you. Oh, you did? There's 30.

1:14:36 30 30 and I'd like to just see if you think the United States adheres to a selection of these 30 should we do that? I'm in okay so first article 1 all human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights they are endowed with reason and Conscious and should act towards one another in spirit of brotherhood. I think we're on board with that I think in America we have a wait wait It's not that's like a that's like a fact of the matter. Yes as opposed to a right. It's just like it's like saying a Human right is being born and breathing. I mean, it's Stupid that's article one just that just kind of sets the tone. Okay, I'll skip to article four No one should be held in slavery or servitude. Oh, that's it happens all that's no where we violate that How do we violate that?

1:15:31 Well, I think it's I think wage slavery. I think there's all kinds of different ways. I mean, in fact, the military is essentially a detritus servitude. Okay, let's go to Article five. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. Now we violate that constantly all the time. Article seven, all are equal before the law. are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination and violation. And that flows into Article 8. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted by the Constitution or by law.

1:16:20 Well that's a known fact that that doesn't work out. Article 9, no one should be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile. That happens all the time, now we can drone ourselves. Well this is article 10, everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal in the determination of his rights. Well, they just gunned down or shot down those people in Yemen with a drone. Not to mention all the people in Pakistan, so that can't be true. Everyone charged with a penal offense has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law. Unless, of course, you're on John Brennan's list and he decides to drone you. Now here's an interesting one, Article 12. No one should be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home, or correspondence.

1:17:08 It can't be more arbitrary than it is. Yeah, ever hear of that building on 2nd Street in San Francisco? They're sucking up your phone and email all the time. Oh, Article 13. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country. No, not in America. If you don't pay your taxes, they will take away your passport. Clear violation of Article 13. Article 16. Men and women of full age without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion have the right to marry and found a family. I think we're in violation. It doesn't say only men and women can get married. It says men and women of full age have the right to marry and to found a family.

1:17:58 Article 17 no one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property. Let me see what happened in San Francisco Did I get kicked out of my house for under eminent domain? Yeah, you did you got kicked out kicked out the government said I can build some some in fact bus station bus station station Yeah, big bus station article. Nobody goes to the old bus station, but they're gonna build a big one Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression Except you can't say you're fat Because that would be bullying. This right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any media, including podcasts. Article 20. Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. No, only in the free speech zone. Now here's where it gets really interesting. Article 22. Everyone as a member of society has the right to social security. Huh. Okay. Article 23.

1:19:02 Everyone without discrimination has the right to equal pay for equal work. This I find egregious because it's not equal output. No, it's equal pay for equal work. You know, you hear the difference of what I'm saying? Explain it to me. So you may be working on the railroad and you may be doing the same work I do, but maybe you build the track five times faster. You should be paid more. In my mind. Yeah, in your mind you're a you're a elitist. Yes, correct. Everyone who works has the right to just and favorable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity. What happens to all the interns? Yes, interns are illegal. Article 24. Now here's here's where we come in. Everyone has the right to rest and leisure

1:20:05 including reasonable limitation of working hours and periodic holidays with pay. We're working on a holiday and not getting paid. And screwed on Article 24. I've been complaining about this. Article 25 This is crazy. Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for health and well-being of himself and his family, including food, clothing, housing, medical care, necessary social services, the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control. Wow! If that's a human right,

1:20:52 Then why don't I just quit right now? I got no job, it's a circumstance beyond my control. I can't help the economy's busted. It's a human rights violation for you not to pay me. I'm not paying you. Then you're violating my human rights. Well, I guess. Everyone this is like most of these things are in violation article 27 Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interest resulting from any scientific literary or artistic production of which he is the author well Really? Yeah, so you can go back to Q and sue them under article 27 of the Universal Human Rights Declaration Yeah, yeah Q slowly I turned so that's just a

1:21:42 You should know these. I mean if you are a citizen of the world and if you are going to believe in your government here in the United States of Gitmo Nation, you should know these rights and you should call them on it. You also have the right by the way, this was very funny, let me see if I can find it quickly here. Everyone, John, everyone has the right to education. Here's the kicker. Education shall be free in the elementary and fundamental stages. Is it free in America? Well, in a manner of speaking. Do they mean free as in money free or free as in free as to what you can be taught? Oh no, they mean money free. It's not free, I pay for that. I pay my taxes. No, that's what I'm saying, in a manner of speaking. If you had no money to pay and so far as taxes are concerned you'd still get a free education. Well, thank goodness at least we adhere to one of the 30 articles. That's groovy.

1:22:43 Yeah. So you should, people need to understand these. There's no mention of LGBT rights. There's no mention of internet rights except for the podcast thing. You know, and the United States is clearly in violation of at least half if not three quarters of the agreed to universal rights. So stop being such an elitist douchebag Hillary Clinton. Stop it. And by the way, I have the human right to say that douche. So we should definitely find someone who can get us that Chinese document. Yeah. Which has got to be hilarious. It's got to be funny, yeah. Because the Chinese are so annoyed by us constantly nagging them over their human rights issues when they have this huge population and they have to deal with it. And they deal with it, you know, yeah, a lot of there is, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of corruption going on. China's got nothing but trouble going ahead. But we're not the ones that should be wagging our finger.

1:23:40 Well you heard her doing just that. We're watching you. We've got our eye on you. I'm Hillary Clinton. This is totally hypocritical. Yeah. So, hope you all enjoyed that little trip down to human rights lane. Human rights are a farce. A farce, I tell you. A farce. It's a farce. Watch that interview you'll be astounded by how human rights has been misused to tell other countries what they should be doing and if they don't adhere to it to go in and kick their ass which is exactly what we do. I know we're really good at it. That's all we do. What else do we do? I don't know not much. It's getting kind of you know so

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1:27:49 We'd like to get some Gitmo Nation poppy karma for the upcoming deployment. Oh boy. He may be overseas. Yeah. We just pumped some argon into an empty bottle of Johnny Walker gold to no avail. What he means by that is he drank it anyway. We have now resorted to cheap high plains wine. By the way, liquor, high alcohol liquor, anything 80 proof or so. Argon doesn't mean anything one way or the other. It's just things that oxidize, which is wine. and Max just had an epic opt-out at the Chi-Town Aerospace Complex. No cotton pads. Don't fear the cheeseburger, Dvorak. You are next. Give Chelsea a MILF shout-out. Cue it, because Scott's too scared. I hope some scratch-off tickets head my way so I can become a mofo knight. John, don't worry. Zuck will soon rule the world and you. Adam, hook it up for the multiple combat tours, folks. MILF. That's one mother. I liked it.

1:28:51 You've got karma. Yeah, be careful out there boys. I don't know what he's even talking about. They're clearly being redeployed to Afghanistan. Yeah, they gotta protect the poppy. In fact, front page today's New York Times, big giant above the full picture of an army officer walking through a poppy field while on patrol. in Afghanistan last month. I mean why don't they just come over here pick up some cow poop and rub it in my face because that would be less offensive. It's a real pretty picture these poppies aren't the real dark red ones they're kind of a very interesting hybrid.

1:29:32 Well, I hope our guys only have to do that and that's, you know, because that would be safe. I understand if you walk through those poppy fields enough you get wasted. US efforts fail to curtail trade in Afghan opium. Top story in today's New York Times Sunday Times. Lure of poppy profits. After allies exit, drugs likely to remain fuel of corruption. No. There's gambling going on over there? Shocking. Shocking. I tell ya. Carrie Smock in San Diego, California, $75. Can you do a shout out to my husband, Bill Smock, Smock, Smock, for his birthday? He listens to your show quite regularly and I would like his donation to go towards his eventual night with. Aww. You know, that is so sweet. That is so sweet. Loving wife, Carrie. Yes. Yes, loving wife. Send pictures.

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1:33:48 Oh, then what you reveal on no agenda. What? That's what he said. You rock, he says. I mean... Wait, back up. What? He says that you are showing more intelligence on Twit than you do on this show. That's what he said. Because I understand the financial markets? I don't know. That's crazy. Listen to it. I thought it was boring. You need to beg, borrow, or buy. Miss the gun. That's what irks me. I gave up on the show about a half an hour in and then you pull the gun out. And that's served you. Did you just call me boring? No, it was just, no, I was just kidding. You need to, it was actually one of the, one of the shows you carried the show. Thank you. And I don't know what else to say. Scoble was on, you need to beg, borrow, buy a truck camper unit. I bought one last year and lived in it for five minutes. You know, you could, that's a possibility. Let me just add that we, uh, so we desperately need a shorter trailer or a bigger truck.

1:34:49 One of the two. And by the way, we're leaving for the wedding in six weeks. And then when we come back, you know, we need to depart on the Hot Pockets 2009 tour. So still desperately looking for something to hook up to Mustang Sally, the 2002 Dodge Ram with the 5.9 engine. What about getting a camper shell? Dude, you want to talk to Mickey about that? You want to talk to Mickey about that? She's expecting some kind of luxury.

1:35:27 You have the truck, a used unit would be cheap and you could auction it off to a lucky listener and recover the cost. It's not cheap. This is the thing. I've looked at second-hand trailers. No, we're talking about a camper shell. If you want a decent one that's not going to like, you know, fall off its axle, it's thousands of dollars. Best of luck with the wedding. Let's finish. Mickey sounds just wonderful. You're a lucky man, John. Huh? Oh, I love you too, John. Leaving El Cerrito would be good for your crankiness. I left Kensington and I'm much happier. Please send de-douching and good driving karma as I'm 5,000 miles into another 10,000 mile trip around the US. You've been de-douched. You've got karma.

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1:39:28 Well, you know, I got really motivated yesterday. I was like, oh, you know, I'm going to start writing the outline for our book about, uh, I have the title and everything. It's not just gonna be a no agenda book. I think it has to be title of the book is steal this book 2.0 subtitle, the value for value model. And I'm like, we can write this. It'd be great. We'll give it away. People will send us money for it. We'll follow the whole thing through. And I, and today I don't feel so good about it for some reason. You still on board with that? Yeah, well you shouldn't. And I don't like, you know... What don't you like? Well, I don't like getting to the... I mean, eventually we're going to have to do it, but I think in the future where we actually have product. What do you mean? Why don't you like a book about the value for value model? Because we have to ship the book. No, it's an e-book. Oh, an e-book. Yeah.

1:40:31 It's just an e-book and you can get it for free. Oh, an e-book, yeah, it's fine. And then you know, you should set up a mechanism. Yeah, it says doable. And then you donate if you like the book. Okay, that's a good idea. Let's say that, you know, you set up something and all of a sudden you became a millionaire on our value for value model and you send us half a million. That would be good. Well, it would be worth it. I think so. I mean, so do you like that idea or are you just saying that for the show and after the show you're going to berate me for it? I might berate you for it. I doubt it. I'd probably forget it's so early in. I don't have a long memory if you haven't noticed. I was thinking about you this week. And then you forgot.

1:41:09 Was no, but I was thinking about I reminded myself because I have a clip I want to just interjected here before we get to our thank yous because there's a new show coming out on television Oh That is right up your alley and it's something that I wanted to alert you to because I don't know that you'd know that this was gonna happen But I know it's important to you so so I do have this clip telling us about the new show So are you guys ready to get carried? away again. Yeah, well, the pilot for the Kerry Diaries, the prequel to Sex and the City has leaked and it whisks us back to 1984 when Carrie Bradshaw was a high school girl in suburban Connecticut. Anna Sophia Robb will play Carrie in full 80s fashion, lots of Laura Ashley and material girl looks.

1:41:52 and Manola Blahnik's nowhere to be seen. Look at her. Yeah, she's really, it looks good. Carrie Diaries airs on CW starting in January. Looking forward to that. And finally, everybody, have you ever gone to the freezer? You are violating my human rights as an LGBT male by making fun of me Just because I'm bi-curious doesn't mean I like stupid Sex and the City. I hate Sex and the City. I went to see the second one because Mickey asked me to go and it was three hours, it was very long, three hours of my life that I've never really quite recovered.

1:42:38 I had misinterpreted this all along. I thought you were a huge huge huge sex in the city fan No, I like smash because that's a good show. Oh, you see that that also leads me into the same conclusion Yeah, yeah, and by the way smash got picked up for a second season Yeah, and it will be eventually it will be a musical and I will go see the musical absolutely So culture barbarian by the way, we've tried to watch girls and deconstruct it Oh, no, it's I mean Mickey still really likes it and I'm like he's got the dialogue is idiotic and men do not talk like no women talk like this This is apparently exactly how women talk when we're not looking. Yeah, and it's pretty frightening. It's like the Eddie Murphy bit where he poses a white guy and then as soon as he walked becomes awake everything's free and

1:43:34 Only and when there's black people around did they start charging money you remember that from a movie is very funny No, anyway, sorry. Let's get back to the yeah well I wanted to play a little thing from PST and I got I got that I got that I got a little thing from PBS just to show you now PBS of course is doing their their fund raising drive Stop fluting and listen So I want you to so this is a local station local PBS the way it works is you know PBS They have what's the guy the travel guy Rick Steve? That's the guy travel guy. So now travel guy is if you donate $100 I think maybe it's $150 then you get his 90 $150 level the level giving level then you get his 90 episode DVD set so they come out of

1:44:31 An episode where he is in Denmark now, this is PBS public television So highly rated so incredibly intelligent. You must support them at the hundred and fifty dollar giving level Denmark I hope you've enjoyed our look at the best of Denmark. I'm Rick Steves until next time keep on traveling How interesting to see ancient and modern Greece including where the Olympics started? What They come out like, how is so interesting that about Greece? The guy said that's it from Denmark. Yeah, this thing is just clipped together by an idiot. Messed up. This is the kind of phony baloney stuff you get from PBS. Yeah. How interesting. Just fantastically interesting. All right, we really need some more support from you guys. I think we have, I mean, it's kind of interesting.

1:45:32 Where on one hand you can say, you know, you give us the value after we've given you the value But maybe we should wait until you give us the value for us to give you the value I don't know. I thought we gave you some value today. Where else have you heard the truth the 30 articles of the human rights? as declared by the elites of the United Nations. No one will ever discuss that except the two of us. No, exactly. In fact, no one ever discusses it except you. Let's be straight about it. Well, is that a bad thing? No, it's a great thing. I never thought to look it up. Exactly. So where else were you actually hear the elitist agenda of killing your children? Did we not show exactly that? I was trying to keep people alive. Devorak.org slash N-A-O-B.

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1:47:58 It works! Sometimes. I witnessed something interesting this past week which I wanted to talk to you about. Remember I had that allergy for a week, like the mold allergy and I was dizzy? Yeah, from the area that has apparently a lot of mold. Yeah, I was like falling down and sleeping all day and it was quite disturbing because I'm a pretty healthy dude, I think. Yeah, you look healthy. Yeah, thank you. We haven't seen each other in so long, honey. How can you even know that? You don't look as healthy as Zuma, but we'll get to that later. Okay, that was Zuma. I know what you're on to. So, you know, Ms. Mickey had really bad allergies and it got to the point where, you know, when your wife says to you, honey, do my eyes look puffy? I mean, what is the correct answer?

1:48:49 Well, the correct answer, it depends on how long you've been married. Well, we get married on July 16th, so what is the correct answer? Oh no, you look so beautiful. Exactly! I got up the other night, I said, you're in bed already? You didn't wash your face? She said, oh no, I already took off my makeup. You couldn't tell? What is the correct answer? Oh really? No, I couldn't tell. You don't even need makeup. Wedding advice from the curry Devorah consulting group ladies and gentlemen so Anyway, so she was looking around you know, how can she fix these allergies because she really had him bad and So she winds up at a guy dr. Ron here in Austin upon recommendation of a friend's sister and he does

1:49:45 I'm not one for the pharmaceutical industry and system so I don't go to the doctor ever. I just refuse because I know what's going to happen. Oh no, you're gonna die. You're more likely to get sick at the hospital. Exactly! It's a fact by the way. Everyone's saying like, oh you need to get a prostate exam. No, not gonna do that because the elites don't do it. Warren Buffett's guy doesn't do it. Because you know what happens, oh yeah, no we definitely gotta, first they should stick a camera in your butt and then they radiate you. I don't want that.

1:50:27 So yeah, and I'm very skeptical. But I say, okay, you know, for this, I'll go and have a visit with Dr. Ron. I have to say, John, have you ever had acupuncture? No. Very interesting. Very interesting experience. In fact, it was kind of like, not kind of, it was very similar to smoking weed. where you know and I'm not I'm I'm very afraid of needles so you know I got my eyes closed. Yeah these needles are pretty... Yeah you don't feel at all but you know he put one in my third eye chakra which is right right there where your third eye is in your forehead and then one at the top of my head and literally I could hear like electricity like and I swear to god I got high I started giggling like I was like I was smoking weed I'm not kidding and then after that and then after that I got really heavy dude

1:51:22 I had to sit in my car and drink tea for like 10 minutes before I could drive like dude I'm so baked from this and it was an awesome experience Baked, but he did something else I said, you know, I got Tourette's, you know, okay. Okay superstars fix my Tourette's He's like, okay, so he brings out these two like boxes that are like VHS cassette boxes And there's all kinds of vials in them. Have you ever seen this procedure? No. Okay, so you're lying on your back, you put your left arm in the air straight up, and he pushes at the back of your hand trying to push your hand forward and you have to use as much pressure as you can not to allow him to push your hand. You with me?

1:52:09 Okay, okay, so he puts the first DVD box on he says there's anything in here It puts it on my stomach literally and presses my hand my hand doesn't move and he says okay There's nothing in there. He takes the second DVD box puts it on my stomach anything in here And you know and he's pushing my hand that he's moving it forward and I cannot stop him from pushing it I'm not a weak guy. I'm like that's weird. No this your body telling you that there's something in here that you can't stand and Wait, wait, wait. He's not, is he playing the DVDs? No, it's a DVD filled with, it's a box filled with vials of stuff. And he just puts the box on your stomach? Mm-hmm. But the stuff is in the box? Mm-hmm. There's nothing else going on? Well, no, I'm sorry. He opens the box, turns it upside down, so there's maybe 30 vials in there. But they're not on my bare stomach, they're on my, just on my stomach, on my clothes.

1:53:01 Alright, so anyway, oh there's something in here. Then he turns the box over and he puts my finger on each one of these vials and does that test trying to push my arm forward. And I can feel him really trying to push and I'm pushing back and he's not moving. Then he hits one and I cannot stop him from moving my arm forward. It's like, hmm, let's take a look. He pulls it out and says, oh mercury. There's something going on in your body with mercury. And then he takes and he continues this test and he puts like on your liver, your large intestine, your small intestine. He's like, no, it's not there. It's not there. It's not there. Then he puts it on the right hand side of my head and he can push my arm all the way down to the ground. He said, you got mercury in your brain. I'm like, what? He got mercury in your brain.

1:53:47 And he does a couple more tests and he says, okay, you got this when you were six or seven years old, you had a vaccination, you got mercury, and it's now literally encapsulated and sitting in your brain and that's probably the cause of your Tourette's. And so he says, you know, it'll take about a year, but I think we can get rid of it. You're flabbergasted. Well, that's about as hocus pocus as a story that you've ever told me, ever. No, what are you, why? I mean, what happens if it actually, if it actually fixes it? Would you still say it's hocus pocus?

1:54:25 Well, I would say here we have an example of the very little understood, in fact almost not understood placebo effect. which would possibly cure you. You think it's all placebo effect, huh? Well, you know, this thing about this pushing the arms down, I've seen this demonstrated before. I was highly skeptical. I'm like, yeah, this almost seems like... Yeah, I know you should be, but I've seen... There's a... I don't know if I... I may have told this story on the show maybe two or three years ago, because I witnessed this. And I've talked to people who know about it and who've also seen it.

1:55:03 And it's a theory by Mark Levinson, who is one of the most famous audio engineers in history. And you can just look up the Levinson amplifier and you can see, find all kinds of references, very expensive. And he has this theory that digitized music actually has a psychological effect on people and weakens them and makes them susceptible to propaganda and whatever. I believe that, certainly if it's mp3 quality. And so he, well he says anything off of the DVD, so he would, but he says this can all be modified away and this other very famous audio guy named Berwyn, I can't remember his first name, but I've actually corresponded with him, and he's aware of the Levinson

1:55:50 gimmick and the fact that Berwyn's software will change the DVDs so they work just up. So he'll bring somebody in from the audience, somebody comes up and it was a seminar, or not a seminar but a presentation that I was at, and he tells them to hold their hands out and then he pushes down, he says, now resist me as much as you can. And they play some DVD music from a regular DVD and he just said, now resist, and boom, pushes him right down. instantly and said no you can't you resist any better and it's the same kind of thing that you were doing and he just pushed him down then he plays the modified DVD that has been bourbonized that has all the better characteristics and the person can hold their arms out and resist right and he would go and there's not a person in the world that can explain this I mean whatever but this kind of thing it's it's out penis penis penis oh man it's not working

1:56:45 We're talking about penis. Anyway, I'll keep you. It's by the way, it's very cheap procedure. So it'll be worth it for me to try. What's he gonna do? Is it gonna be like every month? Chelates? Chelates? Chelates? No, every month I come in he does a little, he does the sacred, the sacred, what is the word I'm looking for? So I'm getting the impression this guy's not really a doctor. He studied at UT. And after he finished medical school, he went to the Orient and studied this and he came back and decided this. It was interesting because my doctor's an acupuncturist too. But what he was saying, we were talking because I was kind of interviewing at the same time. I'm skeptical. And he said, I'm highly skeptical of the pharmaceutical industry. He said, you should be because they're just trying to sell vaccines, which is all bull crap. And by the way, he said, there's legislation. You can't go sue the vaccine companies. I'm like, OK.

1:57:43 Alright, you're in my camp. You're in my camp. Alright, alright stick then stick the needle in me bitch go make him listen to the show anyway, so it could be the placebo effect it could be Sacred signs and stuff and all kinds of good stuff It could just be because I believe that my body heals itself, but I've been living with us for almost 48 years So be interesting if it were to be gone But maybe I won't be interesting then. I'm kind of worried about that too. That can happen. Maybe the mercury is the only thing keeping you on the track. Oh no. It could be. You know, it's okay. The show's gonna end someday anyway. Yeah, we're all gonna die. So we got at least a year. Okay, good. Yeah. So this guy Zuma, the head of South Africa? Yeah, we know him. What a piece of work this guy is. Wasn't there some crap about a painting or something? Yeah, there's a painting of him in the main museum of... it's called the spear. The spear. And there's a picture of him with his dick hanging out and his balls hanging out.

1:58:43 Which I can't even imagine doing that in this country. Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on a second. I need a picture of this. Yeah, just type Zuma balls. No. And you'll see the picture. Really? Balls? With a Z? No, with an S. Balls. Hold on a second. Zuma balls. Okay. Oh man, you get all kinds of Zuma balls. I'm on oh no yeah, the pictures are there no images. No. I'm going to images and I get all kinds of beads Zuma yes, okay here. Let me get you the real time on Zuma Paint it his first name Zuma, South Africa Zuma painting balls. Ah okay there. It is let me just Hey, God dudes hung like a horse

1:59:33 Well, he has four wives and he still has kids out of wedlock. He's just a total dog. And you know, he's running the country and so they're all there. He's circumcised too. So somebody put this painting out and it's on the museum and so... It's kind of the Obama colors, you notice that? Yeah, well kind of, except for the blue, missing blue. So somebody defaces the painting and now it's a big scandal. But the weird thing is they had the defacing on the BBC, but it was a camera that was obviously on a tripod and the whole thing was filmed from the beginning when the first guy puts an X over his head and then the next guy comes along with some black

2:00:15 And then they, it's all like, it's a produced video. It was set up is what you're saying. Yeah, it was totally set up. It plays Zuma balls and you get a little back story. A controversial painting that shows the South African president Jacob Zuma with his genitals exposed has been defaced at an art gallery in Johannesburg. The attacker told the BBC he'd smeared the picture with paint because he thought it disrespectful. The BBC's Milton Okose reports. It was business as usual at the Goodman Gallery in Johannesburg. Then suddenly, this is what happened. The portrait depicted a fully clothed President Jacob Zuma, but with his genitals exposed. A scuffle ensued and the two gentlemen were apprehended by security guards. And then handed over to the police.

2:01:11 Wait a minute, let me get this straight. So this picture, the guy likes the picture because it shows him hung like a horse and it's okay, it's on display and then someone comes in and ruins it because it's inappropriate. Is that what I'm understanding? Well I'm not sure, I never got the straight scoop on whether Zuma likes or dislikes the picture. He didn't do anything because he's been hanging for a while. Yeah, he's been hanging there at the museum. So to speak. Nothing's been done. It's not an illegal picture. So I'm suspecting he probably did like it because it was, you know... It's flattering.

2:01:47 Well, to guys married who have four wives and a bunch of other women on the side, I guess it would be. Dude, this is a flattering picture. Here's a... Zuma Balls Part 2 just kind of wraps it up. The African National Congress, President Jacob Zuma's party is in court trying to force this gallery to take the painting down. There's been a lot of controversy in the last week about that. that painting. People were saying, especially from the African National Congress, that it is racist, disrespectful and uncultural. These supporters from the governing African National Congress were outside court singing old liberation songs. In his application to stop the display of the spear, President Jacob Zuma said he was hurt by the artwork. But why continue with court action when the painting is already vandalized?

2:02:40 In section 10 of the South African constitution, it says everyone has a right to human dignity. That everyone includes the president of this country, includes Zuma as a father, includes Zuma as a grandfather, includes Zuma as the president of this country. President Zuma's life has been under public scrutiny for some time. A polygamist, he has four wives and has admitted fathering at least one child out of wedlock. Milton Ngozi, BBC News, Johannesburg. This is like a... I don't know, this is weird. Is this some kind of racial thing they're trying to stir up or...? I don't have a clue.

2:03:24 Who gives a crap? I mean, we do. Well, there's that. Well, this is just a novelty story. I mean, so it's, I mean, above all. Yeah. But it's like South Africa is, uh, we probably should look at it a little more than we do. We pretty much have stopped paying attention to that far down. We were up at, we're looking at the pipelines and stuff going up for the North, but the, there's probably some pretty good stuff in South Africa to deal with in terms of, uh, for sure. Uh, interrelates with China and all of this. crazy guy guys walking around with their balls hanging out it's good stuff there you go there's good stuff well the BBC of course reporting on this they're very smart the BBC they have more information than you and I do as realness yes one of our donors mentioned that he heard about he heard the 33 meme mentioned on the BBC report about the doctor who faked the vaccinations and thereby got

2:04:19 What is it? He got like the DNA from someone? Remember that story? Oh right, the guy, yeah. He faked vaccinations, got the DNA and that led to Osama Bin Laden's demise. The BBC however has an interesting twist on what really happened. Political fallout following the decision by a Pakistani court on Monday to jail Dr. Shaquille Afridi. He's the Pakistani doctor who was recruited by the CIA to help trace Osama Bin Laden. running a fake vaccination program in the town of Abbottabad where Bin Laden was eventually captured. No, shh, no, you talked over it. I'm sorry, I said go again, but I was stunned that she pronounced it correctly. She said Abbottabad, I know, she said it right. I noticed that too, but also the guy was CIA, it's 33 years that he's been convicted of, she says Abbottabad properly, so why is this last bit not true as well? Bin Laden was eventually captured and executed by US Navy SEALs.

2:05:13 I didn't know he was captured and executed. He wasn't captured and executed. So wait a minute, so we have 33 years CIA... Yeah, so there's code here. Abbot Abad, which is the correct pronunciation. It's not Abbot Abad. Right. It's Abbot Abad. Code in itself. Yes. Extreme code. And then all of a sudden Osama bin Laden was captured, then executed. What does the BBC know that we don't know? Maybe they didn't write the report. Interesting. Well, I mean, that's what we've always suspected. Now, have you heard this? This is one that's... I'm not totally on board. That's a clip of the day, by the way. Are you sure? I think so. That's an outstanding clip. You want to bestow that on me today? Well, that's very kind of you, John. There we go. It's a little better than the Zuma balls clip. Well, here's two clips from Presidente Obama.

2:06:20 And I'm not entirely on board with how it's being presented, but it is weird. It can be interpreted in two ways. This is about health care and equal rights for women and men. And he keeps referring to his sons. Have you heard this? No, but I'm all ears. We don't need another political fight about ending a woman's right to choose or getting rid of Planned Parenthood or taking away affordable birth control. We don't need that. I want women to control their own health choices just like I want my daughters to have the same economic opportunities as my sons. We're not turning back the clock. I want my daughters to have the same economic opportunities the same as my sons. Now you can interpret this two ways. One, he has kids we don't know about. You can interpret it multiple ways. Two, his daughters are actually dudes. That's possible.

2:07:27 Three, he's so elitist that he considers our kids to be his kids. And if it only happened once, okay, anomaly, teleprompter, flub, but it happens again. We're all going backwards. First bill I signed, Lilly Ludbetter Act. Simple proposition. Equal pay for equal work. I don't want my daughters treated differently than my sons. What the heck does that mean? Is he the king now? My daughters, my sons. Or are his daughters dudes? Or he has kids. Or he has more kids we don't know about. By another wife. It could be the other Obama. Oh, the other Obama has sons. Right, that would make sense. Now, it could be that. It's weird though, isn't it? Because there's ways of putting it... I mean, I would like that my daughters have the same advantages of... As my sons. There's ways of getting around saying that and he just doesn't want to.

2:08:30 I don't know. That's pretty strange. That's a good clip, but it's not the clip of the day. So Elizabeth Warren and I have well, I have a conclusion about this, which is why I want to play it because she's sending out code and I believe by the way that she is 100% descendant of was it Arapaho? Is that a Cherokee? So Elizabeth Warren, she initially was supposed to head up the Consumer Protection Agency and she's an incredible douchebag. I don't like her. She rubs me the wrong way. Yeah, she's the one who also walked out on Congress saying, I haven't got time for this and left. So yeah, she's running for Senate. And Scott Brown, the male model.

2:09:14 Scott Brown, the GQ model in Massachusetts, I believe, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Took over Kennedy's spot. So in some cookbook somewhere that she released 30 years ago called the Pow Wow Chow Down or something, she claims that she is 132% Cherokee Native American Indian. And she has actually gleaned some advantage, perhaps by claiming to be a minority. Now, she does not look like she's a Native American Indian at all. And so, of course, you know, this is a political campaign. So the whole thing blows up and everyone's like, hey, hold on a second. Answer the question. Did you make this crap up? Did you make it up?

2:10:01 And the people who've hired her said, oh, you know, it didn't make any difference. We didn't hire her because she's a minority or she got no benefit from us. But the question lingers and of course she hasn't really answered it. I believe it to be true. If you know anything about today's state of the Native American Indian, she is telling us this in code continuously while not answering the question. Elizabeth, can you put this issue to bed and tell us whether or not you are in fact a member of a minority group? So, middle class families are getting hammered. I've been out talking to people about this all across the Commonwealth and what they care about are what Washington is going to do about that. My Republican opponent

2:10:46 has made it clear what he will do. He voted to double the interest rates on steel loans. Members of the Cherokee Nation want to know. They say you should come clean. I have made the facts clear and what I'm trying to do is talk about in this Senate race what matters to America's families what matters to the families of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. So will you tell us whether or not... Ron Brown has hammered on my family at the same time that he... Now so she's not answering the question but do you hear the code that she's using the same over and over again? What? That now middle-class families are also getting hammered on this is... She keeps talking about getting hammered. Yeah, getting hammered. All Native American Indians get hammered.

2:11:30 They get hammered on booze all day long. She is a true Cherokee. She doesn't stop John. And it's my job in this campaign to talk about those issues. This is what matters. And then stop. I can't stop her when she's in the sequence. Like she tries to get her PR guy to stop and he goes, I can't stop her when she's in the sequence. It's a douchebag. What is she, what is she a robot? Apparently. Why did you claim you were a minority and then stop? I have told you, I have answered these questions. I am going to talk about what's happening to America's families. It's what

2:12:07 People across the Commonwealth of Massachusetts tell me it's important to them and it's what I'm going to continue to do. Don't you think it's an important issue to address? I have talked about the issues that are most important to the families of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The families themselves have made this clear. I have answered the questions about my background, about my family, and I am talking about what matters to the people of Massachusetts. They have said what they care about is that middle class families are getting hammered. She keeps saying getting hammered. Getting hammered. Well, they are getting hammered. There's nothing else to do. They haven't got jobs. They might as well stay home and get hammered. I mean, is that is that your is that your talking point? Families are getting hammered. It's like she sounds sure sounds Cherokee to me.

2:13:00 Getting hammered man. I'm getting hammered meanwhile down under what is wrong with that woman and of course They're making this like the races neck-and-neck again because I gotta get that money of course and what she's saying is her veins are popping out of her neck like she's a shapeshifter He's freaky. There's something wrong with her. Yeah, very freaky. She's tall and lanky, but she's free She's very tall. She was on the Jon Stewart show once and she was like towering over him well. He's That's not hard So Australia of course, I'm very very sad for our friends there in Oz. Maynard, if you're allowed to escape under your human right of leaving your country, you've always got a room at the inn here my friend. Well, you can sleep in between Miss Mickey and I. Because you gotta get out man. You gotta get out of that place. First of all they got carbon taxes so they're right on board with the Club of Rome and transferring your money to the poor nations who they're killing.

2:13:59 And then they're going to come after your kids because they say, you know, the guy's ready to kill his own kid because their carbon footprint. But now, my friend and Maynard is a mainstream radio guy there, but he's got an edge and he's really pushing the envelope a lot and that envelope has got to be free speech but I think you're in trouble Maynard. Bullies may have trouble finding a job when they leave school. Under a new scheme to be trialled by 12 major employers in New South Wales, Bully Check will require all prospective employees under the age of 22 to provide a character reference from their school. If the applicant is found to have been involved in bullying, their application could be binned.

2:14:40 It's hoped the program will be adopted across the state after a 12-month trial. Bully check! I love it. Bully check. Bully check. Wow. How awesome is that? Wow. In Australia, you have to come with a reference from your school. And you're going to get your application get binned. It could get binned. Hold on a second. I'm going to see if I'm fast enough to do this. Let me see if I can get bullycheck.com. Am I fast enough? Did I get it? Oh, or someone already has it. Damn, who's got bullycheck.com? Get bullycheck.org. Well, let's see if there's a website there. Ah, it's parked. Bastards.

2:15:28 Am I boring you? No, I'm just filling time for the listeners out there while you do this thing. I don't have that done I think I would have the Jeopardy theme. I can't play it. I don't really well then I have this from Gitmo nation East Robert leather sent me a ton of clips. I just too much But this is about the Gareth Williams, the spy who zipped himself in the bag. Oh yeah, the zip-zip spy. He zipped himself in the bag. The self-zipping spy. So as part of the court proceedings, they brought in a escape artist.

2:16:04 and asked the guy to zip himself in the bag to see if he could do it. Right at the start of the inquest, the coroner, Dr. Fiona Wilcox, said the question of whether Gareth Williams was able to lock himself in the bag would be at the very heart of the case. Central to answering the question was expert witness Peter Folding. His failed attempt- Folding? Peter Folding. I know, isn't that great? Peter Folding. He's an expert in zipping himself into tight spaces. ...on video to lock himself in a holdle identical to the one in which Gareth Williams was found, have been flashed on TV screens around the world. It was particularly unpleasant to actually zip yourself in the bag. I had paramedics on standby, I had a release knife inside. I found it extremely difficult. I wasn't flexible enough to be able to close the bag myself.

2:16:56 Houdini would have struggled with this one. Peter Folding told us he was called in by the Met within days of the start of their investigation. He was contracted to work on the case because of his listing as a confined space specialist on a police database of expert witnesses. I think the whole report is humorous. It's very funny. Peter Folding, confined space specialist. No kidding. Really? And that's his real name? Oh boy, then this report came out and unfortunately what I wanted to find for y'all was not available because it aired in 2004 on CNN. But here's the sad news that reached us late last night. Sandy Dahl's best friend says Sandy died of a broken heart. She'd given so much of herself to others even as she carried a heavy burden. Her husband Jason was the captain of United Flight 93. He, the crew and passengers fought back against terrorists that hijacked that plane.

2:17:53 plane. Friends say Sandy Dahl died in her sleep on Friday morning. She was 52. So we have Sandy Dahl, actually she was a flight attendant herself, dies in her sleep age 52. She was the wife of Jason Dahl, pilot of United Airlines flight 93. In 2004, she was on CNN with Wolf Blitzer. No one will mention this to you, by the way. You will not see this on television. And it's unfortunate I can't find a clip. 2004, I don't think we had YouTube. I have the transcript, which I did get from CNN. Sandy Doll says...

2:18:32 I'm disappointed at the FBI report because I heard something other than what they reported and I don't understand how they came up with it. For instance, they talk about passengers indicated that the pilots were dead and laying in the first class section. I heard evidence to the contrary on this tape and I don't understand why they would report that. Wolf Blitzer, tell us exactly what you heard. Sandy Dahl, oh I can't do that. I've signed papers with the FBI saying that I wouldn't. I just wish they would come out and tell the truth, the FBI, with the evidence they know. I'm not saying that they're deliberately trying to deceive. I would just like the evidence out so that people could know what really happened. It's kind of a folk tale at this point. There was a riot of passengers and crew at the end, and they did crash into the cockpit. And then she dies at 52 in her sleep. She's probably working on a book or something. WTC 7 won't go away

2:19:28 just so we know this yeah bad so I got a couple clips I want to get out of here one is that the mayor of Baltimore you want to get out of here you want to leave are you in a hurry no I'm just saying I don't want to just say just saying that's another bad but you're literally just you're literally just saying just because why All right, so the mayor of Baltimore is giving a commencement speech. She's black woman who I believe thinks she's Oprah But she also treats everyone like slaves Like Oprah it's very much and so

2:20:06 It's the, where is this clip? It's Mayor of Baltimore. Mayor of Baltimore. This is what you would be hearing if you were a student. So first, the first thing I ask is that you please stand and give your parents and your family a round of applause and the educators here for all that they have done to help you to get to this day now. Wow. She jumps at the other. She's not like Oprah. She's like this one. Yes, here's a little one. You come on up. Yeah, well, she had a lot of Michelle mannerisms. Okay. And the way she talks about her mom. She could have been, but Oprah and Michelle and this woman seem to be kind of all cut from the same cloth. But now, now, now.

2:21:08 So Olympic ticket sales are off? Yeah, they have like 300,000 they can't sell? Yeah, and so here's the just two stories about this one is apparently the Ukrainian guys and by the way There was a riot in Parliament. I wish there was it wasn't worth clipping No, but there was a fistfight that broke out. That was just a melee It looked like one of those movies from the 30s. You know a cowboy movie in a bar, but anyway, so Were they slamming chairs on people's heads? Yeah Wow Ukrainian the for one thing they catch a Ukrainian scalper. This is just a short bit and Ukraine's Olympic Committee has suspended its General Secretary after he was caught on camera offering tickets for cash to the London 2012 Games to an undercover BBC reporter. Volodymyr Yerashchenko, the General Secretary of Ukraine's National Olympic Committee, told an undercover reporter posing as a ticket tout he had up to 100 tickets to sell. Such a sale would be illegal and could carry a fine of up to £20,000.

2:22:09 Mr. Goroshenko later insisted he had no intention of actually selling the tickets. Adrian Warner reports. I like the end. Dude, I wasn't gonna sell it, man. I wasn't gonna sell it. I was just kidding. So anyway, with the whole thing that is bogative because the Olympic ticket sales are down in the tank. You can play that and we get a little background. The Olympic Games tickets that became available to the British public earlier this week are still unsold. That means there's now a real prospect for the first time since they went on sale last year of the games not being a sellout. The London 2012 organisers had expected that all 928,000 tickets would be snapped up quickly. Yeah, no one wants to go to your douchebag Illuminati celebration, dude. No, and you know what the real thing is? Is that leaked report, the stuff that you read last show about the Rockefellers and all those things. Yeah, after our show, Ticket Sales Tank.

2:23:00 when they bring in the Navy and they bring in a would-be aircraft carrier which is some other thing but it looks like one and then all these rockets on the rooftops I wouldn't be a million miles near that thing. So this is very interesting so just to recap we read the Rockefeller Foundation report which had four scenarios for the future one of them literally said 13,000 die at the explosion at the 2012 Olympics in London Think what's happening now. They've probably only sold about 13,000 tickets John I'll tell you this yeah, but you're right. I mean why the hell would we want to do that? Why would you want to go to the Olympics with all with you got the aircraft carriers? You got the helicopters you got jets jets you got the the missiles on the rooves you got the the Rockefeller report and

2:23:53 What if one of these rockets, what if somebody take, here's the thing you do, is you take a little terror team, you go up on one of those towers where the rockets are, and you kill the three or four guys there, I don't know what kind of security they have but you can probably find a way through it. and then you shoot the rocket at the at the uh... stadium yeah or unload the whole batch of a boom boom boom boom boom that would be a mess well at least it'll be televised live at least it'll be televised live that'll be cool so uh... i mean so i wouldn't go i wouldn't buy a ticket to that thing it sounds dangerous it's gonna be on television so the uh... you heard it here first on the no agenda show the russian superjet that crashed we immediately said ah this is clearly

2:24:43 An attack, you know, we've had the ongoing Airbus-Boeing wars and obviously Boeing wanted this thing to tank so they could sell their Their 737s, which is no no we decided that wasn't it was for Airbus Airbus Boeing has a piece of the I'm sorry I'm sorry Airbus you're right Airbus wants to sell their What is it the 410 the 409? What is it? No the little bitty one is a 319 or so? Yeah, it's a small one 310 whatever 310 maybe report report report the GRU Russia's military intelligence agency suspects that

2:25:22 that US-inspired industrial espionage may have caused the May 9th crash in Indonesia. We're not that crazy on this show. At least we're not crazier than the Russians. No. That's in the Christian Science Monitor. I'd say that's reasonable. I like it. Reasonably respectable. And then we might as well hit the... The Euro. I'm glad I got this clip because this is something that is very important for the human resources and now austere and slavened slaves of Gitmo nation lowlands. So you know the cabinet has fallen, you have a minister, the finance minister, Jan Kees de Jager, I have to say it again, total dick, I know the guy when he was undersecretary,

2:26:22 And he all he was his he was an Microsoft IT guy. All he had to do was do some systems integration and make sure the tax systems were working because it was broken and the Microsoft platform was not performing properly. Somehow he became finance minister. He's a total douchebag, total idiot. I have inside information about his elitist nature as well. And I suspect him of many other things, which I will not mention. I don't want to violate his human rights. So he is interviewed on Euronews. And this is always interesting because it's in English and it's not going to be broadcast in Holland because it's not like on a national network. So he could just be as elitist as he wants to be.

2:25:22 that US-inspired industrial espionage may have caused the May 9th crash in Indonesia. We're not that crazy on this show. At least we're not crazier than the Russians. No. That's in the Christian Science Monitor. I'd say that's reasonable. I like it. Reasonably respectable. And then we might as well hit the... The Euro. I'm glad I got this clip because this is something that is very important for the human resources and now austere and slavened slaves of Gitmo nation lowlands. So you know the cabinet has fallen, you have a minister, the finance minister, Jan Kees de Jager, I have to say it again, total dick, I know the guy when he was undersecretary,

2:26:22 And he all he was his he was an Microsoft IT guy. All he had to do was do some systems integration and make sure the tax systems were working because it was broken and the Microsoft platform was not performing properly. Somehow he became finance minister. He's a total douchebag, total idiot. I have inside information about his elitist nature as well. And I suspect him of many other things, which I will not mention. I don't want to violate his human rights. So he is interviewed on Euronews. And this is always interesting because it's in English and it's not going to be broadcast in Holland because it's not like on a national network. So he could just be as elitist as he wants to be.

2:27:02 And boy is he. Title of the clip, Slaves in line, Brussels happy. Your main message for the international market. By the way, I think it's Bruno who was asking the questions. Given the fact that we have a debate about the triple A stages of the Netherlands. Well, we have seen that even under the most difficult circumstances politically, we have seen that the Netherlands is ready with a parliamentary majority in both chambers, we have two chambers here in the parliament, with a majority and a government, together to have a package deal that includes not only an austerity package which will bring us to the 3% deficit target next year and a structural reform package of all the structural reforms that have been debated the last, well, even decades in the Netherlands. Liberising the labour markets, even before the financial markets asked us to do so.

2:28:06 to have a housing market reform here in the Netherlands, which was very difficult in political terms, but we are doing it now. We have a pension reform already starting in 2013. So we do the economic reforms, we do the austerity measures, we are making all necessary measures to show all the world, all parts of the world that the Netherlands is still an austere country. I rock! I rock and we have our slaves in their place, bitches! You're talking about packages. Package deal. Zuma's got one. It's funny because package deal of course is more like a travel package deal. Yeah, he's an idiot. He continues. You're not going to play more, are you? It's kind of funny.

2:28:56 Go on. I mean you got something better? Yeah, well no, I was saying what he's saying is exactly why the students in Quebec, which nobody's covering except Democracy Now, and us, 40,000 people marching, rioting, yeah. There's a couple of explanations which I finally picked up on this, what's really going on, and it's the same thing. It's about they're trying to create this austerity thing in a time when it's just not a good time to do it. And I think that, I'm surprised the Dutch have not done anything about that happening to them the Spanish aren't putting up with it. Well let's go to Quebec and we'll go back to to the douchebag. What? Yeah play the Quebec student movement but the other thing I wanted to mention is that I think this red square patch that they're wearing

2:29:42 I think that's going to catch on here. It's a cool looking red square that's sitting on its axis. We call it the red square because the students here are squarely in the red. So it's a symbol for student endowments. And when we started our strike a few months ago here in Quebec, well, we decided to renew. I like that do we have a picture of this red square patch just type it in you'll see it It's a little it's about an inch and a half square red and you and you wear it so the points straights up So it's not like a square. It's like a red square patch I think this will catch on here because it's actually very attractive in some funny way Google is off for me today, man. Do I say Quebec? Maybe red square panel? So you you you tilt it yeah, I

2:30:31 And apparently, according to that clip that goes on and on, but apparently that patch is being worn by everybody, not just the students. I like it. I think I should wear that too. The Red Square patch. We're indebted slaves. Yeah. That's very cool. You know, it's interesting. It's made of felt, very similar to the Jewish Star of David from World War II. Yeah, it's a felt, red felt, and it's square, because you're squarely in the red. I love it. That's very good. That's cool. Let's go back to the douchebag. I just love listening to him because it's... The people of Holland need to make sure they know this. Actually, the Netherlands preached to other countries in the Eurozone. Preach! To respect to the letter this 3% rule and we saw the recent figures actually that the Netherlands did not respect it. So what is the main reason and what is the way out?

2:31:24 Well, it's very simple because the latest figures were without this spring agreement and this spring agreement, also the Commission already explained that, will not only bring us towards the 3% deficit target in Europe but but also, and even more importantly so, includes a very high quality package of economic reforms. It's high quality! It's high quality reforms, John! It's not just... High quality. Your debt will be of high quality. ...and the ECB have given a lot of praise for this package of the Netherlands. Good boy! Good boy! Your package is awesome. Good boy! Good boy, young case. The douchebag!

2:32:10 I can tell we know you don't like the guy. No. So my favorite news item this whole week, which was again underplayed in the US media, is apparently, you know, even though if you remember all the predictions, don't worry about it, the Muslim Brotherhood is in the lead. Most of the votes have now been counted after the first round of the presidential election in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood says its candidate, Mohammed Morsi, is in the lead with the former Prime Minister, Ahmed Shafiq, in second place. Right on. So there you have it. Thank you very much. That went well. That wasn't supposed to happen, was it? Or was it? Well, it was obviously supposed to happen in some way, but I remember when it was happening, everyone said, no, these guys are marginal. They're marginalized. They won't even get involved. They got nothing to do with it. The Muslim Brotherhood, there's no chance. You remember all that bull crap. Oh yeah. Yeah, well, they're winning. This is not good. This is not good. Meanwhile, there was a guy

2:33:11 Islam for Holland. I'm sorry, Sharia for Holland. They went to damn square and these guys were like, we're gonna bring Sharia law to Holland. It's all gonna happen. And you remember Theo van Gogh? Yeah, you know, we'll deal with Geert Wilders. And these guys just allowed to do this the whole time, violating human rights, obviously. They were just allowed to talk this crap the whole time. The Sharia law thing and the Muslim Brotherhood and it's, the whole thing is worrying. They need to go kill some children. I'm almost now of the opinion that the idea is to get these radical Sunnis into power in some of these states and that kind of blocks the radical Shiites and then perhaps creates some sort of a

2:34:02 War between the Shiites and the Sunni that we don't have to really get too involved in they just they start to kill each other off Well, that's also good for the Club of Rome. Yeah, it's good for the Club of Rome and it would be Hillary would like it And what is I don't see how they could not see that it was gonna be the Muslim Brotherhood that takes over Egypt Of course the guys are gonna and you know Israel's really screwed right? What is the? What is the main difference between the Shiites and the Sunnis? I just interpretation one of them has is one of them is and I don't know which is which anymore But there's one of the the leaders or they or they believe that there's a direct link from Mohammed And there's like a relational link through the leadership through one and the other one is a more of an electorate kind of thing where they pick new Muhammad's as they go along it's a it's there's a fundamental difference in the way they see the

2:35:01 the way they see the organizational structure. One is kind of based on a continuation of Muhammad and the other one is based on new Muhammad's. New Muhammad's or something. I used to know a couple years ago exactly the difference. But you forgot. Well, I mean, it's not doesn't come up in the conversation. I'm not expecting people to ask me, but you can look it up and you'll find the difference. And it turned out to be it's like a difference that is apparently angers both sides. They hate the other guys. You guys are wrong the way you're doing this. No, no, no, you're wrong. Hmm. Well, the only thing I got to wrap it all up, which is not a clip is just a report. Miami police officer on Saturday fatally shot a naked man

2:35:48 who was chewing on the face of another man on a downtown causeway off-ramp. Zombies! Exactly! Exactly! They're already here. They're in Florida and they're eating people. There's been a lot of zombie stories floating around. Well, have we not been warned by the CDC? I mean, ha ha ha was all a joke. It's not a joke. There will be a zombie apocalypse. I mean, this is the beginning of it. These are the first reports. What else is a naked man doing chewing and eating another guy's face and it's so bad that what the cops can't tase him? The cops shot him. Two to the head. Double tap. What's she got to do with the zombie? Yeah, you gotta you gotta say hey zombie. Hey you! Double tap. That's the only way to get rid of him. Why else would the cops shoot him? The guy's naked. He's unarmed.

2:36:45 Wow well you tell me I'm not saying anything cuz of its to these zombie stories are cropping up all over now. There's some supposedly some zombie people getting zombified from eating the wrong food or Yeah, yeah, and we'll see I'm ready want to do a mea culpa I Mixed up Nicaragua with Honduras. Oh, that's a that's very bad, but I Think that the point I was making was valid, but the location was we forgive you we forgive you Coming up on the no agenda stream no agenda stream calm no agenda producer updates special edition live via recording studio interviewing noble airs aka Jasper Avenue stay tuned for that and Please consider helping us out. We do a lot of work. We enjoy doing it. It's value for value No love money back

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