Odious Debt

00:00 This is just asking for trouble. Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday May 13th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 408! This is no agenda Happy Mother's Day from Camp MoFo here in the capital of the drone star state Austin Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley for a cloudy kind of gloomy Mother's day i'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah, for those of you who don't know we missed an important ritual. An important superstition! Yeah that's what a ritual is it's a superstitions very important stuff red alert red alert red alert John No Yes Red Alert We've got a red alert one of our own is being hunted down and we have to help him one of our very own sysadmins techno experts one of our fellow nerds and geeks

01:02 They're hunting him, they're gonna kill him. If you see him, you gotta save and protect him. Have you heard about this? No! This is the FBI agent who worked in national security He's been missing for, wow 24 hours and they fear he is going to kill himself. He is on the run. Oh so they are gonna kill him? Yes of course they're gonna kill him! That he knows something...he obviously a techno expert And this is sending word out? Oh I mean but listen this press conferences everything it like you know if your child goes missing There probably code in here that says look if you see this guy shoot him Let us listen

01:47 John, colleagues say this is a well-liked FBI agent. Right now there's no indication that he is the victim of foul play but they say he was very upset before... Interesting how come he's not dead and they're already talking about being.. He's a victim of foul play? They don't even know if he's dead! There's no evidence he's dead yet already they're talking about no evidence of foul play Before he disappeared that's why several law enforcement agencies are working desperately to find him Stephen Ivins was last seen by family members on Thursday evening. Authorities believe the 35-year old FBI agent walked away from his home of the 1700 block of Scott Road early Friday morning. Investigators say Ivins was distraught and possibly thinking about killing himself

02:33 His handgun was not found in his home. I can't get into the details of why we think he's suicidal Other than that he found something out, we don't want you to know so we gotta go kill him But uh...we have been in discussion with his family and based on just the overall circumstances we believe there is that potential A bloodhound traced a scent indicating Ivins, an avid runner and hiker may have gone to the Verdugo Mountains. Today dozens of investigators from the Burbank Police Department, the FBI and the LA County Sheriff's department searched a wilderness park in the Burbank area We don't know how far he could've gone in He could've slipped and fallen There are many...

03:13 potential. He's an avid hiker but he could have slipped and fallen. Ivins has been an FBI agent for three years working in national security authorities don't believe the married father of a one-year old boy was involved in any criminal activity. He is very good agent, um...and has done great job in Los Angeles area and that's why we're taking this very seriously want to make sure that we are able to find him I'm telling they show a picture of the guy where he looks all deranged. Oh really? Yeah, you should Google the picture. What's his name again? Steven Ivins. I think is his name let me just check yeah this is bad This is very very bad. Oh yeah no these guys are targeting him for something oh yeah this is note I mean it No doubt in my mind if your kid goes missing for 24 hours They don't even care

04:04 No, to 48 or something. Yeah Stephen Ivins with a PH. Stephen Ivins you see the picture? No i've got it by put a V STPH yeah so we've got to protect this guy because clearly he knows something he found out something He's a very very... He looks like a wonk Well that's what of course they always take uh use a picture right You got any crazy pictures of him? Yeah hold on I'm sure I got someone from the shop Doesn't look like an FBI agent Maybe he saw what that person in the Ulsterman report talked about. Yeah, right! Well three years it could be...could be. It's very possible. Speaking of which there is a new insider I didn't actually want to get into this yet but apparently a DHS insider now this is not an Ulsterman report where was that? Here it is

05:04 And this DHS insider, I'll give you the paragraph here. Let me see... The title of the article is the planned re-election of Obama revolutionary style It's nothing that we haven't already discussed but the insider says Obama is using some high profile people as pawns to foment the revolution I heard several times through very credible sources that Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll, others have been named as well. Not prepared to identify yet. Farrakhan is to coordinate the blacks and the muslims to prepare for riots this summer using any means necessary and the way they're going to do it is an attack on the president which may or may not succeed but we've kind of already seen this ramp up. We've seen you know...we saw the test

05:53 With that idiot who like, you know left his gun with the fingerprints in the car. You know all the crazy stuff is a K Yeah So now we've seen all this kind of being ramped up and prepared so wouldn't it wouldn't be a surprise? yeah well You know they keep there's all these weird little things that keep happening Like I have a clip of the blogger fired are you familiar with this story then? The Journal of Higher Education, they hired a woman from the Wall Street Journal to kind of balance their coverage. No no tell me about this Well play the blogger fired it explains it kinda A familiar face too many of our viewers former Wall Street Journal editor Naomi Schaefer Riley was fired this week from her job blogging for The Chronicle of Higher Education Hired to provide a conservative point-of-view on current issues in academe Riley posted an item last week critical of some black studies programs at US colleges

06:47 She was fired Monday after more than 6,500 people many of them professors signed an online petition seeking her dismissal. Naomi Schafer Riley joins me now. Welcome back to the program. Thanks for having me. So you must have known that this was going to be controversial when you wrote the blog post, were you surprised by the reaction? Well a lot of the blog posts that I've written for The Chronicle certainly earned me vitriolic reactions from commenters and things like that. I was a little bit surprised that people took the time to... 6500 people took the time to sign an online petition against me I was actually surprised by the dismissal, ultimately. That The Chronicle caved to this pressure. Well one of the criticisms is that you didn't read some of the black dissertation... Black Studies dissertations that you criticized. Obviously you wrote what you did based on their titles and descriptions of them but uh... Is that a fair criticism?

07:39 You sent me this article so explain exactly what this is. It's in the show notes by the way under survey says... Yeah I'm reading the show notes because i had to say, cause I started looking into this thing what the hell is all about? Because she's a blogger! A fired blogger and I'm thinking whats the big deal here? Bloggers have no job isn't that kind of whole deal? So anyway, so I'm looking into and I'm reading all the articles in every single article especially the ones from the left or criticizing her for being you know callous and then a racist And all the rest of it nobody would link to the article. Yeah, but I mean this is always something of a problem But this was out-of-control Unlinking hmm so I have finally went to The Chronicle itself And I got lucky because I guess they kept it up for even though they have a little disclaimer in front of them I found the article which has linked in the show notes

08:25 it's lame. There's nothing that would warrant getting fired, she just said that the black studies programs do a lot of stupid theses and she named if you have with dumb titles and she says it's crazy you know just a little blog post so then does that mean you get a petition? Well this is the educational industrial complex at work right Yeah, and this is also part of your thesis about everything stemming down to two things. There's actually two things that I'll credit you with pretty much identifying them earlier probably than I did which is race wars... let's get a little race action going here and the freedom of speech issue. This was very...this was a Freedom Of Speech type editorial she wrote or crazy little blog post Well there's something else that I noticed in the past few days

09:17 and it actually has been taking place over the past several weeks. It's now a status symbol for you to do the commencement speech at an important university. Because then you get to wear the robe and you get a sash, and you wear like crazy crown or whatever... And everyone does it! Lucy Napolitano did one of course we saw Mitt Romney The President, The First Lady Everyone's doing a commencement speech It's like you have to go suck off the most important university These guys must be incredibly powerful Well, you know the Romney thing makes a little sense because Romney's still distrusted by the conservatives and so he goes gives the commencement speech at of all places Liberty University which is... I don't even know if this gets credited. I'm not even sure that you could take it transfer credit from Liberty University to Harvard. I don't think..I don't know You can probably transfer it to LA Community College

10:16 Well, that's doubtful. But anyway the uh... so it is a bunch of right wing school let's just put it simply a right-wing religious evangelical school, to be more specific. So he gave this boring... and I you know the thing is these students would much rather have somebody more interesting give me the speech was boring yeah well they're all boring yeah all these people are very boring so there was someone posted the pitch letter from Singularity University? Yeah i've linked it in the show notes 408.nashownotes.com I'll just you know so i have the scan of it right from Ray Kurzweil and by the way they're on their letterhead, it says singularityu at aol dot com how forward-looking are those guys? That's nuts! They don't even have their own domain name apparently not I don't know is that wow yeah no they have singularity org but its singularityataol.com they could've done a forward you know how hard is that

11:18 So it's a dear carbon mass. So there's the cute about it. Yeah, dopamine and water mass. Dopamine from my ventral tegmental area is flooding my mesolimbic pathway which is crudely if commonly called delight at the fact that I can offer you acceptance to Singularity University, which is in no way affiliated with Scientology. You are one of only 40 students whom we wish to extend the invitation to give us $25,000! This is a great pitch letter!" Oh, and then it just goes on and on and on your tuition covers room and board hyperbaric dorm pod Alkanized water the red pill and world-class speculative instruction because you know they had another one of these Another one of these Gatherings I think was a reporter from The Guardian. I think went you know Aston Ashton Kutcher's there You know it's it's bullcrap These people are a holes to most of them

12:23 Well, you know this came about from Kurzweil's concept of the singularity. But Kurzweil for a long time I've always felt was... I find him freaky. Unstable! I mean I met him a couple times and had him on the news. On the silicon spin show and it seemed unstable worship him though in Silicon Valley people worship him just because he said men and machines will melt which is Because of a science is basically as a science fiction mentality about the way the future's gonna go And they were doing and the machines will take over and we'll be their slaves kind of thing yeah, and Ben this funny thing Is there's a lot of people that believe that I mean Bill Gates

13:06 Yeah. Has never said it, I know publicly but i know that he said it he's always thought that software would end up ruling the world and we'd be its slave literally and that is not like you know figuratively this is actually what he thinks yeah and so Kurzweil is in this camp and it's kind of creepy and he has zero sense of humor at all I mean I don't really think even smile anymore yet I really think he's unstable Well, in the morning to you. Meanwhile there's all these A-holes at that Singularity University which is not accredited for anything that I know of and i don't even know what the point of it is what could get your degree in? It's a conference! It's just a swanky way to sell a conference because you go there and there are whole buncha cool people yeah and arguably this cool people he'd wanna meet and uh... you know so it's a conference it's just a conference only its sold on a different way and very expensive

14:04 Which is the way to do it. Oh yeah, well it's definitely the way to go In the morning John C. Dvorak in the morning to you Adam Curry and the morning to all ships at sea subs and the water boots on the ground and feet in the air And FBI agents on the run we're here to protect you And all of our human resources in the chat room no agenda stream calm. No agenda chat net Thank you so much for tuning in we bring this program to you twice a week It is a podcast You can get at know agenda show comm but of course, you can always listen live and join in the chat Keep us honest keeping them honest and that we hold on to the value-for-value model I'd like to before we explain that I'd like to give you a brief example Of how news works

14:52 And this is a great example from MSNBC, which was aired just this week. The host is Tamron Hall And John, you might just want to explain because you've done this a lot. You see the host and they bring up a topic and they bring in two boxes sometimes it's a multi box. Yeah? You can have like four or five, four six eight yeah octobox. Yeah. You can have a whole bunch of pundits talking it's a technical marvel and they're all set up and they're all prepped with what they're supposed to say correct Well, yeah. But it's not like a talk show at the Letterman Show or anything where they actually go over it. What they do is they ask you about what your opinion on the topic

15:40 And then they might suggest that, well maybe if you had a different opinion you could be on the show. Yeah! Seriously... How's that worked out for ya John? You get asked back alot? Sometimes you can't have the opinion I mean I have a lot of that when I was so obviously I cannot use it I cannot state that opinion because I can't pull it off as I don't believe it But so they're basically asking you to project a certain opinion if you can. They want to balance the coverage, say can you say something bad about this or can you say something good about this? Or what do you think and if you have like some real interesting idea which I tend to get on from for this purpose So yeah here's the way I see it is this in at some screwy

16:18 screwy thing they never thought of then you're gold so that's cool it takes away all the pressure off the writers right well so this is about the obvious hit job where Obama comes out says gay marriage I'm all for it Then a day later Coincidentally we find out that Mitt Romney beat up some gay kid in high school Cut his hair off. Yeah, I know that wasn't the setup That's great And so this guy is supposed to talk about the coverage of it and he goes off script from them from from The minute it happens but what's interesting? Is the hosts response which shows you the hubris or

17:00 And the bull crap that these, well of course it's MSNBC so duh. But it's nice to hear because this happens on every single channel. There you have it Tim and the point is he's doing local television thats a local reporter asking about something that is important for people in that particular state and his response, you know people are raising an eyebrow about. Okay well I'll talk about the marijuana in one second but what you're doing here is a typical media trick You hype up a story and then justify the second day coverage of the story by saying oh well people are talking about it heres how Romney responded to it So this guy like whoa! Whoa don't tell everyone how it works you idiot He's right too The producer going

17:39 What is this? What do you mean? I just told you. No, but you got to tell me again because i got caught off...I didn't expect him to go this well off the track this way okay so he's supposed..he's always two guys and uh i don't know who this guy is it's irrelevant and his uh he is supposed to say This is on MSNBC yes And he's supposed to comment by saying well you know The fact that Romney is doing little local television means this is really hurting the campaign

18:20 You know he's trying to do damage control that he's a gay basher. That's the thing instead okay, so instead He's doing our job So you know we gotta get I want this guy off the air? You know we can't have him like spilling the beans and ruining our gig And so and she said yeah, you knew it you were invited you just would you with and just goes on This is the amateur hour part of it because she Is obviously a bot but it doesn't have a clue on how to handle this. But she sure do It's even worse, she is not just the bot She is insulted John! Listen... The single question I ask you You did not and you didn't have to accept the invitation to come on You knew what we were going to be discussing I'm not mindfully in your job hang on Sam because your kind of in my house here The problem is that

19:04 You're in my house. The story is out there and you are right, I am not saying that we should belabor what happened 50 years ago We are talking about the response by the campaign and by the governor Not just on this issue So he says for example... You are bringing up a meta-story here which is What is Romney's response to this other non-story? I'm trying to go meta meta on you Here's some media treatment You don't want me to do anything on you because your actions are irritating me right now You want me to go anything on you? I'll whoop your ass mother fucker I'm going to be honest with you. Yes, you are because we were going to discuss. You knew them. You agreed and we're not talking or demeaning listen 50 years ago. I was a much tougher kid probably than Mitt Romney was in high school This is where she's struggling She doesn't know what to do so now she's making stuff up The funny thing is this is very recoverable if she was any good

19:53 you can get out of the house naked man make yourself look good if the person goes off the rail like that you push him further and then you can do you think it's a bit this is not a hard interview to did get back on track she's complete all she's doing is making your worst it's because i think this is clip of the day he said well play them in seconds as it was used She's so frustrated and doesn't know what to do. And she's got the producer yelling in her earpiece, in her IFB obviously. Oh yeah! Definitely. And that's why she was just talking about it like you know 50 years ago I don't even know how old she is but like 50 years ago... you don't want me to go anything on you i'm not talking about the issue of whether he was bullying or not. He says he doesn't remember, to be fair I cannot say that's what I am asking you about is how the campaign has handled this decision handled this situation how we handle the Colorado reporter how he handles same-sex marriage where he said he agrees with gay parents being here she just rolling down the list and what he was supposed to say it was like

20:50 Here's what this guy has never asked any of these questions because he went off the rail right away. Yeah, but this is on the This is great to adopt but he does not agree with same-sex marriage just be handling up questions beyond Talking about that I am okay But you're not gonna come on and insult me You're not gonna come on and assault the network when you know Insult me, insult the network. Are you high woman? We're going to talk about it. Done! Let me talk to Jimmy. I'm done. Yes I am. Jimmy let me go to you and say this with all due respect because we are not joining me but I do the same for Tim that we have to be able to have conversations and not do quote unquote hit jobs on each other when we know were guests on the show thank you both

21:33 Don't hit do it job on me. Don't do hit jobs on each other we're doing the show man This is the show just play along with the program was a great clip tip of the day hit it Clip of the day. That's all it is. So I have, we were talking about the Romney thing so some black guy was on again MSNBC replacing Ed Schultz

22:17 And he has this Cranbrook's, his Cranbrook school and I guess this black kid oh he blazed like man but what I guess he was a kid during the era. At one point Romney was there and he went to this school which seems like wow that's a pretty ritzy school for you know I guess he was not a poor black kid that's for sure it's a boarding school and play the clip, and tell me if you can figure out what he's talking about. I attended Cranbrook School in the mid-70s for about a year and a half. I've witnessed all kinds of behavior from the simply inappropriate to the outright intolerant For instance there was a recording that was released on cassette that said we're going cigar fishing today no we're not were going inward fishing What's debate? How many grits So i'm quite acquainted with the fact that even the elite at the top level have bigotry percolating inside

23:07 Okay, I'm gonna need some help on this one. I mean he said well Let me don't don't if you know it don't tell me let me listen let me listen to cigar fishing hold on a second What is this kinds of behavior from the simply inappropriate? To the outright intolerant for instance there was a recording that was released on cassette that said we're going cigar fishing today No We're not we're going inward fishing what's debate how many grits so i'm quite a how many grits Yeah, how many grits? How many grits is the bait. Yeah Wow you know what a rough school no idea what that means cigar fishing let me see a bunch of bigots they're going to cigar fishing and how many grits but he said but this is nowhere going inward fishing

23:52 I mean, is this obviously there's some sort of way of producing the n-word and The reference would be hominy grits because black people apparently even though it's not just black people But everyone in the south eats hominy grits which is grits. Yeah, which isn't your breakfast? Starch which is quite good by the way. I make grits every so often Oh feel another no agenda recipe coming on When you just buy them and cook them, it's not a... These are recipes. If it's gonna be a recipe, it's gonna be a recipe not something people should know how to do You see we have a nice header for the recipes page now? Cigar fishing what do you think? So this is crazy story like okay yeah right bunch of bigoted bastards either way he has I don't know why it's just like

24:43 Well, you know no one... It's code. It's all code! Talk about the skull and bones and all kinds of weird crap that go- That's what college is all about is being initiated into weird crap I'm glad I dropped out before any of that happened Yeah, you could have been a cigar fisher Or eaten my harmony grits on the inside fishing. What does that mean? Anyway, let's thank... do we have executive producers? It was a low show. Yeah well we have one executive producer and two associates. He was drunk that doesn't really count Keith Brown gave us 450 bucks for Spring Texas he's probably not listening to this show because he sent his very long note in which I cut down substantially

25:27 Because he thinks he's gonna sound like an idiot. He kind of does yeah That's but that we kind of liked that I mean the whole note was good, but please yeah But it was longer than one of my columns so twice as long actually Recently so I can try to read it the way he wrote it please accept this drunk donation at qualification for knighthood status Jcd is recommended recommended advice I had hoped to be drunk on LaFroigue 30, but when i googled it. I found out that was at least $700 a bottle How about no? How about cigar fishing? Well im drinking some cheap ass 50 dollar McAllen instead of what it'll have to do Even though I've donated before I was still a douche At times to Adam for all his crackpot stuff so I guess de-douche me for that

26:19 To his credit, he answered all my emails. I've since come to value you both for the extremely prophetic media deconstruction how you guys see through some of this BS is amazing! I've also been somewhat of a douche and not contributing regularly I've been a canart, a long time ago doing it in small chunks. But! I wanted to do it in one big splash to be an executive producer but I never seemed to have the cash to spare for that douchebag I will now also be a regular subscriber to the 3333 mothership plan who knows Very handy, I cannot listen to the Sunday show because if you read any of this on the air. I'm not gonna want to hear stupid shit I said The way you say this is priceless John

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29:42 to the way people have been raised, which is to be kind of passive and shown a lot of commercials and advertisements and information collected from them. Yeah yeah but I'm gonna disagree at the store by buying some junk... I'm gonna disagree because something is changing And if you look at, because last night actually we'll talk about this. I watched a documentary called Dettocracy and it's about Greece and parallels to Argentina and Ecuador. that was crowdfunded on something like a Kickstarter. And I'm pretty convinced, if you look at Kickstarter and you look how that works which is a brilliant idea and all these similar concepts essentially it's like you go in there see cool gadget

30:36 You know, that's a cool gadget. I would buy that for 200 bucks but you know what? I'd buy it for 250 as well so that's what I think the value of that gadget is So i'm going to throw 50 bucks their way so they can get it made and I can buy it for 200 That is an extension of the Value For Value concept People don't want shares They just wanna have the thing or whatever it is being offered And they're valuing that by how much they want it They just tack on a little bit and say okay, I'll throw that in...I don't even want your crappy tee shirt Now just make the thing and I think that's when it comes to media because you know there's all these future of news conversations. Let's face it, news is dead! Not as in physically dead because news you know... It's not a thing that can die but it's over and your whole model doesn't work people don't care it's all about selling movies

31:27 And so what we do is, you know we're actually doing not news but we're practicing some journalism and we are providing analysis which is valuable to people. They get something out of it and then whatever they think it is they toss in our way So there is something changing I think that at least we can get on the speaking circuit and make some dough Yeah, well. Look if you're not gonna help me I'm gonna do it myself. No, no I mean... You know how to write a book and- I just disagree with the fact that you believe like I can't disagree with the fact you believe but i disagree with the idea that people have not just in general yeah we have of number we have a lot of listeners that listen to us deconstruct things and tear stories apart and find them story behind

32:17 and or maybe find a reason for the story, the rationale for its existence as part of a scheme which is the movie thing. For example but I still think that majority of public in fact it was one my friends he says you can't listen to this show and... Well he's not unfriend him then? He's like another friend which is in the same group says to me well you know he has such a rigid view of the world that this disturbs him to listen to our show because We question authority, essentially. It upsets some people There are people that cannot listen to our show because it disturbs them Other people like the show because it confirms what they've always believed In other words they haven't been completely taken over by the pot I understand So you're saying that's not because people feel value...it comes down to the same thing

33:13 You're saying it's a small audience, but you know we can get on if you have a book then I can get on MSNBC and bitch at this woman. You've been banned from television. I'm banned from MSNBC that's for sure. Yeah after saying the- telling him that Michael Jackson was killed How crazy was i to even consider that? Oh boy. They cut you off and now is the end of you Let me give you a little uh... Dvorak dot org slash and a yeah when I remind people to work dot org slash any channel of work dot com slash and a no agenda nation dot com in no agenda show dot com we can give us some donations get us get our numbers up a little bit for the next Thursday show

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36:08 It's all diluted by the fact they have like 500 channels and exactly you can float around for days before you'd find our show Yeah, we'd be on channel 497. Good luck that'll really help donations John You know well I said five to ten people who might pick up yeah anyway If you even if you don't like our value for value concept and don't feel it's worth any of your money If you don't want the book you can always do one simple thing just go out and propagate our formula will ya Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order! And remember... Shut up, slave! Today by the way John is not a fake holiday Mother's Day is not a fake holiday it is an official holiday It's a fake holiday created by Hallmark The Congress by a joint resolution approved May 8th 1914

37:16 designating the second Sunday in May each year as Mother's Day and requested the president to call for its appropriate observance, and this is as per the President's proclamation today. Once again proclaiming because he gets to do all kinds of cool stuff proclaiming this Mother's day so there was a joint resolution may 8th 1914 So it's not entirely fake well I'm not saying that its yeah yes see mouthful of teeth got nothing to say doing you No, it depends on what your definition of fake is. Well obviously...

37:55 There's no you know what the modern holiday of Mother's Day was first celebrated in 1908 when Anna Jarvis held a memorial for her mother in America She then began a campaign to make Mother's Day or recognized holiday in the United States. Oh, she was successful in 1914 She was already disappointed with its commercialization by the 1920s well Yeah, anyway I miss celebrate all over the world. I missed my mom do you miss your mom? Yeah everybody misses their mom yeah Jarvis never mentioned mothering Sunday. Hey, by the way while we're talking about this so CNN which is a Time Warner company was shamelessly without even mentioning that they're owned by the same parent company shamelessly well promoting The Time magazine cover

38:48 Now have you looked at this thing? That's hilarious. So, you know what I look... If i saw that cover I'd buy that thing! That is a frameable. That is art my friend, ART Well it literally IS Art John because when I saw this I immediately recognized the symbolism and I think there's code in this Oh So the symbolism Is ISIS Mother ISIS feeding her son Horus Now if you go look at this, this is a very famous statue. Are you familiar with this? Yep! And the reason... I will admit that i didn't think of this though So first of all it's left breast exposed It's always the left breast That always signifies ISIS

39:33 And that's on a lot of symbolism throughout history. Isn't that even the stuff they covered up in like Congress or something? Because you know, they got the woman's left boob hanging out like oh we can't have that on television during the State of the Union We've got to cover that up You know it's crazy So I think this story... who gives a crap about attachment parenting if whatever But this kid what is he wearing? He's wearing camouflage pants So that would symbolize him as the... because Horus was the god of war. And I believe this is and there's some other things here like you know if you are looking at the cover by any chance? No, i'm looking for Horus pictures okay I'll go look at the cover You should look at the cover because then you see right above his head is the word God

40:25 There's another story apparently inside God of cricket and crickets also if you think of cricket not as in cricket The game find a big picture, but if you think of cricket the Okay French rejection god of cricket okay And the kid is wearing camouflage pants for some which would be that though god-of-war thing which I think your nailed This is good go on so we've got I think that this is a symbolic message that war is coming, like a real one. And of course you know this all has to do with... so cricket

41:07 You know, I don't know. I'm thinking maybe Jiminy Cricket or you know Pinocchio like the wooden boy comes to life There's something there but just the word God is positioned so beautifully above his head yeah exactly and And then they eat at the gods sitting on top of that one part of the letter E and it goes right to write to write right into his noggin So to me this is a symbolic thing. And it's also, you might remember the word French rejection up there is another one of these slams against the French it seems? So Isis was worshipped as the ideal mother and wife and the patron of nature and magic she was the friend of slaves sinners artisans that downtrodden and she listened to the prayers of the wealthy She's also known as protector of the dead and goddess of children now Horus

41:58 was the god of war and hunting. He became a symbol of majesty and power as well as the model of the pharaohs, the pharaohs were said to be Horus in human form. And the fact that he's got his camos on I think somehow...and i don't actually know how symbolism works but I know symbolism is important uh and at a subconscious level you know, this stuff means something to us. I think we probably inherently are programmed somehow to recognize this To me? This was so far out of left field and so unimportant Yeah... to sell magazines sure but this is a- And we know Time is corrupt We know Time Warner where they're all seeing iLogo We know that there are bunch of creeps So I think it means big war coming

42:49 Well, there's nothing else. To me it means the... I would say that's an interesting perspective. I would be more inclined to say it's the military sucking off the tit of the American public passively because his arms are laying slight down he is not like holding her or anything just like they're here and it's like she's almost force-feeding him And we do have a military that's oversized and over budget. So I think it's more along those lines personally, I don't think anyone is predicting war they...I don't think it just makes too out there Okay But we always have wars! We have the war now Yeah but there could be really good one coming There is a good one, there is a cycle of war cycle and there is a good one coming in 2020 Oh okay well phew That way out there

43:38 Is that in the red book have you put that down, but there's a good one coming in 2020 yeah I could put that down There's a good one coming relative so I said we're talking about code. I did run into an interesting member of the show Rubicon Yeah sure it got cancelled It was somebody had a whole season it and it was all about codes uh-huh And it was and one of the things that started this storyline people should go rent this DVD set we've told you about this before show. That was on AMC called Rubicon, it was about Spike could people like contract for the big spy agencies, and there's one of their little contractors then they're

44:21 finding things out and I don't want to give away this whole story but it starts off when one of the analysts finds coded messages in crossword puzzles. So apparently, according to this Rubicon becomes life. A Venezuelan crossword compiler has been questioned by intelligence officers after accusations that he hid a coded message to assassinate the president Hugo Chavez's brother Adán in a puzzle. The commentator on state television said the words kill gunfire and Adán had been hidden in a crossword of a national newspaper from Caracas Sarah Granger reports

44:59 Innocent puzzle or coded message? This crossword got its compiler, Naptali Segovia into a lot of trouble this week. Venezuelan state television presenter Perez Pirella said a group of mathematicians psychologists and others had studied the crossword and concluded it was a coded assassination plot These kinds of messages were used frequently. De Gaulle's messages were famous when he sent them to the French resistance from London." After the accusations were broadcast, Segovia was questioned by intelligence agents and released a statement saying his work had no political dimension

45:40 Oh, that's good. I like that. That was gonna crack me up! Yeah well you know if i were you know just along the lines of symbolism your brain can actually decode this stuff quite well I'm convinced You just don't at a conscious level see the words until they start to circle it This is what is believed to be true One one of these days you and I are going to wake up and go Must do this now kill all humans Kill all humans Okay I'll top you. I'll top here with one someone sent me this clip This is from wag the dog when was wag the dog was that 1990?

46:20 It was a ways ago. Let's take a quick look in the book of knowledge so that was that was of course Dustin Hoffman Dustin Hoffmann Robert De Niro a cast of thousands and the whole idea was they were in order to 1997 oh wow this later than I thought okay, so it's not even that long ago So there's a clip in this film which predicts the war on terror, which of course we didn't have at that time. That didn't come until four years later and this is where De Niro sitting in restaurant with the Fed and he's recognizable by the earpiece and the curly wire in the restaurant. And the Fed is saying hey man there's no war going on because we looked at our spy satellites

47:08 And there's nothing going on in that country, so this has got to be fake. Then here is De Niro's little monologue. I do my job too and let me ask you something Let me ask you a simple question Why did people go to war? Why did they go to war? I'll play your silly game Okay why'd they go to war To ensure their way of life Would you go to war to do that? I have If you went to war again who would it be against huh Your ability to fight the two ocean wars against who Who Sweden and Togo That time has passed. It's over! The war of the future is nuclear terrorism, it is and will be against a small group of dissidents who unbeknownst perhaps to their own governments have blah-blah-blah-blah-blah... And to go that war you have to prepared, you gotta be alert, the public has gotta be alert because that is the war of the future and if your not gearing up

47:52 to fight that war, then eventually the axe will fall and you're going to be out in the street. And you could call this a drill or you could call this job security...you can call it anything you like but I got one for you! You said go to war to preserve your way of life? Well Chuck, THIS is your way of life and if your spy satellites don't see nothing, if there ain't no war then YOU can go home prematurely take up golf my friend because there ain't no war but ours If you have not seen Wag the Dog, you must watch this movie. Oh it's a great movie and I don't even know how they got times It's always hard to even get it made I think it was because of the timing it came into but the book wasn't based on A book called American Hero that was done in 1993 And then it was obviously optioned and made into a movie it came out in 97 and that was just happened to be a lull

48:42 in the action. And it was, but I mean there was a little that Serbian thing going on which i think is a lot of this based on what Clinton was trying to do But It just snuck in there. I think it's snuck in there. It was good! It still is. Its a classic movie you can get for streaming for free quote For free on Netflix and all the technologies they show in their are nothing compared to what you can do today Oh yeah. Pfft. They were still using blue screen instead of green screen Remember those days when chroma key was blue? There's always a problem with people with real blue eyes. Let me talk about... A couple things about words mattering and meaning something First, Zach one of our producers caught me on something I apparently overuse

49:33 I want you to keep an eye on me John apparently. I say turns out quite a bit Turns out yeah, so that's from the dear days as a pimp Yeah, so I don't want to be saying that too much because that can be annoying if people start focused You know also say well it turns out that What would she use this up? Well? I was just about to ask you what would have some good substitution B and Turns out, well it turns out that so what you're doing is a transitionary term. You're trying to switch from a statement that is wrong to what it really means and so you're using that didn't make the transition maybe I should say... You can say was actually happening but then use that word actually as in factually I could say nothing could be further from the truth

50:25 But that would get boring after a while. It would, but yeah, but here's what you do is say nothing could be further from the truth it turns out that why because I'll just say why? Because I don't know. I'll think about it and we can have someone there, we're making a contest our listeners can send suggestions for transitionary terms or phrases that are better than turns out Or the fact... It's as bad as the fact of the matter That's no problem No, the fact of the matter is much worse And then I got to The fact of the matter is so bad when I'm watching any TV and somebody says it now you know in fact the whole family starts jumping up and down Oh yeah, no actually Mickey does the same here He's like ah! Making the buzzer noise

51:10 Did you... he cc'd you on his follow-up reply. Do you see that irate email from one of our listeners about my use of the word homophobia? Yeah, I thought that was...I got a CC on that. I read it over little bit and said now it seems like much to do about nothing personally but uh... Well I thought it was valid. You had well what would want you summarize? Okay the summary is on the last program we talked about the president's interview where he said he supports always leaning towards supporting gay marriage

51:47 And then there was a, the interviewer Robin Roberts I think said well this is a huge issue in the black community. And then I said oh wait a minute you're saying that black communities homophobic? His point is the word homophobic is an incorrect use of term and that context where anti-homosexual actually because...I mean I guess you can't even use the word gay anymore because then yeah that's the wrong word does not have meaning of gay But the definite there are a couple definitions of homophobia and whenever you put phobia after a word it Intends to mean the irrational fear now. I use it in the aversion to Context which is also according to Miriam Webster a proper. It's the second definition well, then it's fine And then third is discrimination but I have to agree that You that using the word homophobia?

52:44 Is in this context incorrect because a lot of people may not have an irrational fear of homosexuals. They may just be against gay marriage or they may, they may not agree with homosexuality but that doesn't mean it's irrational and I have to, I have to agree with that It's not irrational that they don't agree with homosexuality That's up to you And it doesn't mean that you haven't You know if your freaking out and spinning around and doing back flips Yeah thats kind of irrational I don't know that anyone goes that far. But in the media you'll hear this very often, they talk a lot about homophobia... The term is a misnomer! That's the problem with that debate you had with this guy

53:25 It's a it's an ex kind of an accepted misnomer that people just use casually to mean You're against it. I mean everything you said is all wrapped up in the word homophobia But homophobia is a very aggressive word That makes you it's just it was a shut-up slave word yeah, it is because it basically says You can't have an opinion because you're irrational. So I'm going to not use that, unless it's appropriate but i'm not going to use the phobia word unless is appropriate. That's good! The guy was a-hole the way he put it

54:04 Well, he was just unfortunate. Yeah blowhard. Blowhards so uh and then I have one more because this is the president well I want to get back in something else you said in that note even mentioned a word heterophobia which is the term I like to use when at the club what heterophobia yeah where do you use this term? I use it on this show oh okay I've never heard of you. It refers to gays who really, I would say like a lot of gays are heterophobes in the same way a lot of straights or homophobes if we're gonna make the word kind of not really mean phobe and i would suggest that you run into this commonly especially if you watch Gay USA for example on free speech TV where it has these two... Do I feel a clip coming?

54:50 No, I don't have a choice. Have you been watching your favorite show? It shows on one so I could record it now and find at least two or three moments of heterophobia because they blast the crap out of people in ways that's very unfair I think. Honest answers. Assume that if you're not for gay marriage for example 100% then you're an A-hole and you're horrible person and I think that's heterophobia Well this brings me to a second point did a little bit of re-educating, I re-educated myself a bit on the Constitution and the concept of rights as in the Bill of Rights and privileges. And because I got a couple people sending me emails saying hey man what so if the state of Texas says I can't follow my human right of getting married then I should move to New York? And I'd like to remind you that marriage is not a right

55:47 I'm not even talking about human right, but it's not a right. It's not in the Bill of Rights as per the Constitution. It is a privilege granted to you by the state and they have certain terms around it and someone else said something very interesting he said homosexuals have the right to get married just like everyone else but they can only marry someone of the opposite sex They're actually asking for an additional privilege which is interesting You know what I mean? Yeah, actually. I've made that argument before people when they get into a big debate. People will not like you for that right you do yeah, you do have exactly the same rights It's not a right though woman but it's a privilege it's not a right it's a privilege granted to you by that's a big difference there is nothing in the Constitution that talks about marriage at all

56:35 It's a privilege that has been agreed to by society and laws. And it's also a church, you know, technically marriage is something that was done by the churches and civil unions would be something that would be done by the government so you know which is also a privilege. These are not rights! I want to put that interview with the guy who wrote the book on rights in the show notes. You got to watch that and read that book... What the hell was the name of that book again? That was really interesting how this whole human rights thing, it's bullcrap. There is no such thing as LGBT rights! There is no such thing as any kind of sexuality rights It just not true A right is really about possession

57:21 And ladies and gentlemen, it's adam at curry.com You know It's important to understand the difference because you know you people are being hoodwinked and programmed into believing Certain things are rights when they're not their privileges if you want to change the privileges You've got a change the legislature of your state Yeah, it's like the right-to-drive Yes, the same thing you don't have a right to drive you have you don't even own your car? You know that Who owns my car? You co-own it with the state. Unless you have the manufacturer's statement of manufacture, which you don't have... The state has that on microfiche in their archives That's why they can ask you to charge money to register It is basically rent

58:13 You do not want, you can get this by the way. If you go to another state and buy a car and say I'm going take this car so let's say you buy it in Arizona. So when we take this car to California i will only buy the car with cash if you give me that manufacturer statement of manufacture And then you can, and you'll have to fight every single time but then you technically do not have to register that. You don't even have to have license plates. You do not have to... Where did you get this one? Oh there are there uh.. you can consult the book of knowledge. There are people who have done this

58:51 So I could literally, so let's say had a nice car. It would cost me 300 bucks a year to register it in California? Yeah What you're saying is if i bought the car some like Nevada and then I got this document I can bring into California and don't have to register it Correct I thought you had to register for as a permission to get on the road. No, no, if you look at what registration is it is not permissioned now will be pulled over? Yes Will we get tickets yes We have to fight it? Yes We have to go to court? Yes Can you win absolutely and may not be worth your trouble No but its a good point Yeah well its the same with Okay im gonna look into this now Now that you got my curiosity It's the same with land John You don't own your land

59:43 That's why you have to pay taxes on your own land. If you own it, why do you have to pay taxes on it? You don't because it has been incorporated under the city of Berkeley or whatever. You co-own it and you own real estate that means everything you do on top of it You can own, but you don't actually 100% outright buy yourself the land. These are things people don't understand and I've been re-educating myself It's not like you can go and change this Oh that's right because your on the process of trying to buy some land Yes exactly! Hey i'd really like to own it

1:00:19 Well, no. This is City of Austin. You must be the most boring guy at the title company when you can't... And this is how it came up! Can you realize that? You people! This is how it came up because The guy that I'm working with very sweet guy You know and he has a title company that he works with me all these agents do and then part of the deal is they wanted to use their title company. I'm like why? What's the difference, and then I start looking into title companies And you know it's different from buying a house when you're buying land Yeah, this is a very serious contract like well what am I actually buying you know? I'd like to know

1:00:56 Now, there's going to be a third party in this which would be I don't know the bank. But if you just leave that out of it if I could show up with cash and hand and say here you go turns out you don't actually owe it. And yeah they hate me because I'm asking all these questions they think they would only want to deal with me like this guy is too much pain on the ass he's asking too many questions. Interesting though right? Yeah no I mean I never thought much about it because get your property and you live there or whatever, then you sell it to someone else and then you get another one. And don't think about any of these other issues because they don't come up in the conversation and they don't seem to interfere with commerce.

1:01:41 in any way shape or form, but if it turns out that essentially just this way to steal your money which is what you're making it sound like. Well... It's something to look into but then again if its set up in such a way this is the exact same thing I was talking about earlier people have been made not to like the value for value proposition because they've just Oh no, the way it should be is free. It's free with advertising lots of advertising and of course the advertising models now being busted left and right because of you know DVRs and everything else which is causing nothing but panic And then the Internet's changed things made music piracy easy so whatever the case its like a

1:02:25 You just assume these things and I never...I'm gonna look into this car thing because that actually, if that's true then it is a scandal. It's another column for John C. Dvorak! So the book is... I'm sorry the book is The Last Utopia Human Rights in History Samuel Moyn, M-O-Y-N. It's in the show notes now under humanrights408 and a shownotes.com or bigbookshow.com Have a look at this interview Because it is very timely when you hear everyone talking about human rights and human rights And what are right again? And this really is just it's it's a scam. It really is and it's just not true It's not the correct uses of the word but yeah we're being

1:03:09 So I kind of suckered into it. Well, you know i'm also reminded of the anti-tax nutballs that are out there that hate the federal income tax and then they make the argument...I've run into a couple of these guys. Sure They make the argument well first of all its voluntary so you don't really have to pay the taxes Yeah And then what and then they have this cockamamie schemes which a lot of people been suckered into and now Like Wesley Snipes! Wesley Snipes Yeah, then you put your money offshore over here and then you create a trust and then you make the trust owned by another Trust and that trust puts money into an account which then you can go to the bank And use your ATM and pull the money out of the account But it's coming from the trust that's owned by another trust Which is good net which the money is not even in this country? And it's just um you know whole thing is in this scheme. It's real I've seen this present presentation because has been on television couple

1:04:02 And the guy is like arrows going from here to there and somehow you know money and well This is just asking for trouble by the way We will get letters for bringing this up because people that listen to our show believe we'll say this is bullcrap as works This was great. We do tax system is volatile no it's not it's it's listen I'll tell you one thing The IRS has guns and they come into your home, your place of work with their guns. I've had this happen. They take your money? And it's like that. You might be voluntary but you're going to get extorted for it and there is no way you can not pay. Let me tell another crazy story so I'm helping Mickey with her visa

1:04:40 And I don't want to pay a lawyer to do this. I can read, I'm a government legislation analyst so I get all the appropriate forms and you can download them and by the way they have them all locked PDF like yet that you're forced to get Adobe otherwise you can't read it, you can't copy something out of it. It's like real Gitmo crap and you have to get the right form, the right date and I'm reading through this and there are two things first of all And this just blew me away. The fee for her visa? $420. Are you kidding me? 420? Are you throwing a 420 at me in government documents for immigration? Some joke or some stoner in the Washington DC, I got an idea. Department of Homeland Security. Yeah but the second thing so you have to send a check for this four hundred and twenty dollars and Department of Homeland Security says

1:05:35 We will not, you will not receive this check back. We will debit your bank account for that money." I find that frightening! Well i had to get my car repaired and the dealership now has a But I'm not authorizing, I am giving them a check and then they can use that as authorization to just say to my bank hey give me that money. That's bull crap! That is what they are doing everywhere now they take the check...I thought this was interesting this is first place I have seen do it but I can see this happening all over They take the check and run into some little scanner

1:06:19 which reads everything off the check and then they scanner goes to the bank and then takes the money out of the account somehow without the check ever showing up. Yeah, this is not good! And then they give me back the cheque... I don't even get the cheque back though? No you could don't have to get the cheque back it's probably too much work to do that but it's like yeah Yeah, this is all the same process of getting us off any ability to actually handle our own money. Exactly no the check was not void yellow you have to send a valid check Anyway, the president also used some interesting terminology. You know he has these things that pop up over and over again like everyone gets their fair shot pay their fair share play by the same rules we got that one uh We have the American dream of work you'll work hard set a little aside for retirement Maybe send your kids to college and die with dignity That is the American Dream according to our current President of the United States in the entire administration And now he's got a new one

1:07:21 Which is bothering me, and I think someone should call him on it. Because it's bull crap and I'm calling him on it. Passing tax cuts for workers to opening up new markets for American products to reforming our patent system but now we need to do more that's why we made Congress a handy To-Do List just like the kind I get from Michelle Now I'm sorry you're the President of The United States And your wife's giving you a To Do List? Of what?! What is on The To Do List? Walk the dog? What is it?? I don't know, walk the dog do the dishes. I don't think he does anything This is bullcrap! He doesn't get a to-do list from Michelle unless it's go buy me something like get the jet ready so i can fly to Spain Not even that! He has got assistance for that She has no to-do lists for him Yeah she actually has 20 assistance or something like this She really does...she has a 1 million dollar budget for assistance The only thing that can be on the to-do lists

1:08:16 is what he's about to say here. Because he says, just like the one I get from Michelle. So the true ruler of America is the first lady that hears her To-Do List. Congress a handy To Do list? It's like the kind I get from Michelle. It's short but each of the ideas on this list will help create jobs and build a stronger economy right now. She is helping us build jobs! Yeah it's annoying and he's used this over and over again everywhere just like the To Do List they get from Michelle do people fall for this I don't know. I got him on one of his things where he's got this new fired up and ready to go thing. Ready to go home?

1:08:59 Well, when I first said it and actually tweeted this. Now Obama says ready to go! I thought he wanted to run for re-election. It's just kind of a joke because it sounds like he is ready to leave. You are going have to endure this but this is worth listening too with the Obama fired up and ready to go thing. Here we go. But here is the thing Virginia after a minute or so I'm feeling kind of fired up. I'm feeling like i'm ready to go! So, I join in the chant and it feels good and for the rest of day even after we left Greenwood I'd see my staff I say are you fired up? They say were fired up boss are you ready to go? I'd say I am ready to go! Once you hear it You will never forget it Some people start putting Fired Up Ready To Go on their shirts some people start putting Fired Up Ready To Go on signs Everybody is saying Fired Up

1:10:04 and ready to go. It shows you what one voice can do, one voice can change a room and if the voice can change your world it can change the city And if they can change this city they could change the state and if I could change the state They can change the nation and we can change the nation They can change the world Your voice can change the world Yeah, that's not mind control.

1:11:09 Well, you know it's also black preaching so I anyone who didn't think he went to the rights church and never listened He obviously that's not true. This is a classic Style of preaching that white boys and white girls don't never seen before they ever heard out They over they have no idea. That's what's what he's doing school. It is very propagandistic and Mind-control isn't this what Hitler did yeah? And people loved him, by the way. People loved Hitler! I mean... They didn't know it. Yeah we were taught differently We're taught incorrectly The Germans LOVED HITLER He was there because he was fired up and ready to go Hey you fired up and ready to go? Whoa Okay John good one Hey i found a outfit that im looking into

1:12:03 This is actually let me uh, let me take a let me take you to a different place first. Let me take you to Hmm where is she now? Calipity clop I was wondering yeah because Lucifer Hillary Clinton has this little thing where She has dignitaries visiting and she comes out, you know the double doors open wide and she clippity-clops out with her hooves onto the rug with a dignitary. And then she says oh it's so great for you to be here So let me just play the most recent one that took me awhile to figure out what was going on The message is clear Clippity-Clop

1:12:49 Good afternoon. I am delighted to welcome his royal highness. Hear those hooves, man? Clip clap! Clip clap! ...here to the State Department. Bahrain is a valued ally of the United States We partner on many important issues of mutual concern... Did you catch it this is the crown prince of Bahrain You with me? Yeah he's our buddy To each of our nations and to the regional and global concerns as well I'm looking forward to a chance to talk over with His Royal Highness the number of issues both internally and externally that Bahrain is dealing with, and have some better understanding of the ongoing efforts that the government in Bahrain is undertaking. So then he says thank you it's great, awesome to be here whatever

1:13:46 Like why? What is going on, what are these important issues that we're talking about. And by the way can I just interrupt for a second? Sure Do they have those cameras mic'd Yeah no it's annoying and there's no reason to have that you don't need your camera isn't aiming at her its directional mic I guarantee you yeah but know its a directional mic from the back of the room so they can also do if this questions they can focus it on me on the question asker They can turn that mic down. Click, click, click, click... You're not supposed to be listening to this! This is the whole point. This is a photo op. It's a photo op. Alright go on So I'm like what is going on? And I wait and search and wait and the next day oh there it is The US State Department announced today that President Obama has signed off on a resumption of weapon sales to Bahrain

1:14:47 Wow, you know all these important things. You're full of crap Lucifer It's just as to sign the 53 million dollar initial deal Where we're going to sell 44 humvee armored vehicles sever several hundred tow missiles along with associated equipment I'm And the TOW missiles, they're not selling tear gas. No tear gas will be sold in this deal We're arming Bahrain and that's what oh important issues yes is very good Yes a very good Jimmy well they do the deal at the Formula One race these elitist pricks

1:15:42 There are douchebags, that's for sure. Yeah he has a photo op and all the press is like... That's great! What do you have to say? Royal Crown Prince your highness let me kiss your ring Well, this will bring me to a kind of another off just slightly off topic. Welcome to the show of Off Topics. But it brings us since you brought up the Middle East I might as well talk about them the murder at the Kentucky Derby oh yes yeah okay play Kentucky Derby clip Homicide occurred in the backside of the community where hundreds of stable hands live

1:16:20 And they've shut down. The police have no known leads, where do you start this investigation? Well I like that underbelly concept because i think the greater story here is the culture that exists in the backside A thousand horses 600 migrant workers not so different than migrant farm workers but their horse care takers They feed and clean the stalls And a lot of them are undocumented citizens or undocumented people from Central America. You're going to have a very hard time with witnesses or anyone coming forward to talk because they're not going to want A, the truth about the underside...er..the backside being known and B these people are afraid of being deported so it

1:15:42 There are douchebags, that's for sure. Yeah he has a photo op and all the press is like... That's great! What do you have to say? Royal Crown Prince your highness let me kiss your ring Well, this will bring me to a kind of another off just slightly off topic. Welcome to the show of Off Topics. But it brings us since you brought up the Middle East I might as well talk about them the murder at the Kentucky Derby oh yes yeah okay play Kentucky Derby clip Homicide occurred in the backside of the community where hundreds of stable hands live

1:16:20 And they've shut down. The police have no known leads, where do you start this investigation? Well I like that underbelly concept because i think the greater story here is the culture that exists in the backside A thousand horses 600 migrant workers not so different than migrant farm workers but their horse care takers They feed and clean the stalls And a lot of them are undocumented citizens or undocumented people from Central America. You're going to have a very hard time with witnesses or anyone coming forward to talk because they're not going to want A, the truth about the underside...er..the backside being known and B these people are afraid of being deported so it

1:17:00 It could be a big story where maybe this man knew something about drugging horses or fixed races. Well, there were doping allegations not that long ago. Or it could be simply stable hands having a barroom fight. All right John C. Dvorak we're very interested in your dissection. These races are rigged I stopped betting after the Barbaro incident. And, I want to tell you just relate this story and nobody picked up on it...I mean I read nothing after this happened but the typical trick that they liked to use and i think this guy was killed for some reason because the horse that won was not the horse that was supposed to win The way this is supposed to go down and has done it almost every year or not quite every year but obviously its not going happen this year

1:17:46 The idea is you win, you have one outstanding horse win the first two races and be ready to win the triple crown. Everybody puts their money on that then a ringer comes in and wins. That's the formula? Okay! That's the formula now this happened over again in the classic examples in 2006 the horse was Barbaro undefeated horse, the hands-down winner of every race that it ever raced. Goes to the Kentucky Derby wins with a near record race time about 20 lengths against the next horse goes to the Belmont Stakes wins no problem now the next race is the Preakness and the horse is at the length that the horse does best

1:18:31 Now this horse again, now it's not never lost but one to two big ones. Everybody goes down and bets on this horse because no matter who is racing against it, its going to win. Now we need the ringer so they bring in the ringer They bring a ringer but they still have to deal with his horse being the fastest thing on track. They shoot it right? Well, you know the funny thing is they ended up shooting it. Of course! Here's what happened... They- and I watched this race and i said oh that's it i'm never gonna even watch racing anymore after this scam they put all the horses in if you read them if you read the accounts of this the horse had a false start

1:19:07 Heh. He jumped out! Opened first. It's a g- Oh, computer glitch... They never explained it. It was never discussed in any stories I ever read nobody bitched about this they put the horse I think he didn't break his leg quite then but he was already spooked and weird so they have to go put him back in The race takes off then he breaks his leg because he's already ruined because of this false start And it goes into the horse that wins, it was never in the Kentucky Derby Derby it was never in the Belmont. It was a horse

1:19:52 from Dubai owned by the The ruler the king was a vice president of the UAE they brought him in as a ringer he won easily after Barbaro Barbara was Came up lame with broken leg. They had to shoot the horse one of the greatest horses in the history of racing This was rigged well, and this whole thing is a ridiculous scam I'm so I'm so upset by this scandal Well you think all sporting is rigged. Of course it is, all professional sports are rigged of course this is a but now meanwhile they had to shoot his Mexican because he was like obviously screwed up their scheme for this year I'm perfect well you know don't mess around you stupid Mexican

1:20:41 So anyway, that's my complaint about racing. We have kind of a new quest which I'm liking is we find all these bullcrap non-profit organizations and how they operate... Oh yeah! We could just do a show on that Well i like doing one or two an episode so go to mobileactive.org while you're looking for that site I'll read the subtext here a global network of people using mobile technology for social impact and this is basically it's a job site and they said like jobs check out current tech and mobile in social change positions who's this guy in the thing with us this guy with their head gear that kind of guy they're looking for

1:21:27 So this is a, you know, he's like human rights watch is seeking a researcher on the Internet and human rights. So these are techno experts. This is where you get recruited cheapest Institute of Health is looking to fill some technical positions for the meso American health initiative project in Mexico. This is a bunch of this front for some spies Okay, so if you find out who this organization is they are a fully owned subsidiary of the non-profit technology network. The NTN and the website for that is nten.org Now here's where it gets interesting

1:22:05 So if you look at their about page, N-T-E-N. N-T-E-N. Oh, N-T-E-N. N-T-E-N aspires to a world where all nonprofit organizations use technology skillfully and confidently to meet community needs and fulfill their missions And you look at this place! By the way this website is designed by the same guy that did the other website. Yeah duh So you know, you see their mission statement. You look at their board very interesting board members let's see who do we have here? Oh here it is Board yeah We've got

1:22:43 Why is this woman holding her chin as she does weird photos of Amy Bordstrom? I know, she's great isn't she. She's like a hooker! Talk about hookers, Katya Andreessen looks pretty hookerish But on the board is Edward Granger Hopp Global CIO International Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies So you know this is obviously the techno expert shillage And now there are 501... The Kresge Foundation. Yeah, they're a five... The Ethereos Group. Blackbaud!

1:23:19 They're on ground which is a yeah, there are 501c for good There's one. There's what we gonna call our organization I don't know we're gonna try to do good work or let's call it the network for good instead You should call the Dvorak consulting group We know how to do this for you will come up with something better than that Yeah That's no good so there are 501 c3 corporation which means they're nonprofit but they don't have to report who gives their money and I think this has to stop. If you're a non-profit, we should know who's giving you money. This 501c3 is bull crap From their mission statement, To educate the public members of the philanthropic community and other section 501 c 3 organizations ie other secret fronts on how technology can help to advance charitable missions

1:24:09 to connect diverse constituents that share a common goal of helping nonprofits use technology more effectively, like NGOs in other countries. Membership is made up of both individuals and organizations including nonprofits, technology support organizations consultants and vendors who want to identify peers connect with clients develop professional support networks and share information and resources." So the thing that was interesting is they in two their revenue numbers 2006 they did $244,000 2007 211 thousand dollars 2008 four hundred and twenty-four thousand dollars so now there they've doubled then 2009 463 so pretty much flat then 2010 oh 2 million dollars

1:25:05 Oh, somebody Soros came along. Or the State Department or somebody and we can't find out but if you look at this website these are where the techno experts are hired Well, if you go to the address which I like to do a you know. Who else is it? 1020 Southwest Taylor at number 800 in Portland there's a whole bunch of all this is not a mail drop because this obviously one place that these companies coming out of it like idealist dot org is that address and if you look at their website take your one yeah no take it down the same road same designer

1:25:45 and they do the personal democracy forum, and they have this thing with the Internet's new political power. This is a...this is interesting you've stumbled onto something here. Yeah that's why I bring it up! What do I stumble onto except for the techno experts? I'm not sure how parenthood is changing the way. I work a member of the idealist team Offers a personal reflection of Mother's Day. I'm a new mom to a daughter blah blah blah blah It was on our team here at idealist org who's on the team now, that's a good question people put Barbara number jobs organizations volunteer opportunities internships it doesn't say

1:26:23 What? No, if you go to... But there's 421 thousand people networked on this idealist.org. Mm-hmm what you need to do because all these sites they always mess it up so they don't never have an about tab but if you go to the bottom of the page that's kind of like a no throwback to making yeah there's always in About Us our team let's see put barber who was that guy Mmm, put the guys names poet and meet his name Kid well we made all our money in the stock market selling puts let's call him call now We can't come. We'll have to call put that's funny put put put barber hey call put He's a senior advisor when you order directors yeah They don't have a board yes just above cast only director so there you go

1:27:16 And educators export public engagement. She's at the learning community, another one. Learning community? I mean this is employing people man! This is... and here we are like two schmucks watching C-SPAN all day Why do we even bother? We just need to... We should do one of these things Yes, of course we should. I mean go suck some schlong in DC and get some money No doubt about it Michael D Smith of the Case Foundation Is that Steve Case's case foundation? Could be Anyway, it's a rabbit hole obviously. Oh yeah? No you could I'm sure we can spend hours going from one site to another Sandy this where I've heard of this bird This is do at the bottom sandy stone sufferer who is going to listen to the president of The One Campaign Advocacy organization based in Washington The One campaign there you go well you know if Bono's involved it's not good that's bonos outfit Yeah

1:28:16 Alright. You gotta click on that, you got to go back! You've got a click on that link where it says the one campaign and look at this what comes up What page is this? Oh yeah I got it. What comes out thrive oh that's Thrive And look who they are all these pictures They've got Merkel and Obama and Harper Plant the seed of change It's time to break the vicious cycle of hunger in poverty Please urgently agree to and implement a bold global plan to ensure 50 million people escape poverty through agriculture, and 15 million children no longer endure chronic malnutrition. What kind of bold plan is that? And by the way who's this guy is that the new guy from France that's over second-to-the left? He's already on yeah it looks like him Orlando yep he's already in

1:29:11 Wow, these guys keep up. Well they're making all this free money! All they gotta do is build a website and host a drink once in awhile and collect the checks Very good... very good I kinda love the little dancing beans over their heads That should be a game You should be able to click on Obama's head And it would bop up and eat the bean Bloop bloop Signed petition where male assist you with it at least checked. Oh, yeah I'm clicking on no thanks take me to one org Yeah, I clicked on that all right okay So anyway like can I move off of this? I just wanted mess who brought it up now It's where techno experts go It's just a show you that all this money is and then all comes from the State Department USA ID Human Rights Now all this stuff so last night

1:30:08 Was up quite late actually I watched this documentary called Debtocracy as I said in the top of the show. It's a crowdfunded Documentary about Greece and actually the reason why I was interested in this is because you brought it up on the last show And you brought up again on that Horowitz podcast you do? About Greece now wanting to investigate the actual debts that they may or may not have to the bankers. You with me? Oh yeah! Are you still looking at one dot org? Can I have your undivided attention? Sorry, I need to get out of the media center John! Okay a Bono statement on the selection of Dr Jim Yong Kim as president of The World Bank

1:31:00 Get out of the media center! This has nothing to do with anything. Get out of the media center Okay I'm closed, I'm closing this site Closing 1 2 3 gone Now do i have your attention? I can smell it, I can just see he's like click click click Wow what is this bull crap click click click Alright so did you hear what I said about the documentary Yeah they're very suspicious of this so called all of a sudden they joined the EU and next thing you know their broke how does this work So this documentary, very well done. They raised a lot of money in fact they raised so much money they had money left over to promote the documentary it's in Greek and actually some what is in French and a little bit of its in German has English subtitles poorly done I have to say because I understand you know the German or French I can get a little bit with the Greek not really but so subtitling not so great all in Greek to me yeah

1:31:55 But it goes in, essentially it makes a comparison between what's happening with Greece right now and Greece has the Troika. It has the EU, the IMF and the European Central Bank who are now trying to take money from the slaves and give it to the banks they compare it to what happened with Argentina And Argentina was essentially exactly the same where they had the IMF and actually Washington Were saying hey slaves were taking your money and we're giving it to the banks and Argentina didn't end so well You know there was huge riots, and the country got screwed then they bring into comparison with Ecuador and Ecuador They elected a guy named Carrera And he said screw it this is odious debt

1:32:42 And like, whoa! There's a new term. Are you familiar with odious debt? No I'm not but i am familiar with the fact that Ecuador is the country that was cited the most as the target of the economic hitmen by Perkins in his first book He's actually in this about uh... about ecuador and because they'd uh... they were given loans that they could never pay back ever even when they signed the deal And so Ecuador got out of it by saying, hold on this is international law. This was odious debt from the book of knowledge In international law, odious debt is a legal theory that holds that the national debt incurred by regime for purposes that do not serve the best interest of the nation should not be enforceable. Such debts are thus considered by this doctrine to be personal debts of the regime that incurred them and not the debts of the state." In some respects, the concept is analogous to the invalidity of contracts signed under coercion and this was

1:33:38 started this was started by a guy named Alexander sack a Russian theorist who used this on the United States When we acquired Cuba, essentially along with Cuba came 400 years of debts to the Spanish colonial regime. And Alexander Sack then argued successfully... By the way we're the ones who repudiated the debt Yeah, correct. The way I read it Mexico... It was during Maximilian when he came down here and this is during the Civil War era when Maximilian was dropped in just a little background Maximilian was dropped into Mexico by the French as the British had Canada and it implied that United States would... This civil war would bust the company in half then the French would move in from the south and the British were moving from the north and take over the country so they could get ahold of gold

1:34:35 that we had on the west coast. And so the whole thing was a giant scheme to bust us up and so the French during Napoleon III era, and the British were not our friends. Right all right now let me get back to the point I'm making thanks for that interlude So the last time Odius debt was used do you know when it was like it's not in the Wikipedia It is in the documentary and I like it very much The last time this was used was Iraq In 2002 before we went into Iraq The Bush administration went to the IMF and the Paris Club and said, look Saddam he's got huge palaces. He spent all this money on weaponry We're going to go in there And of course we're basically gonna conquer it But you have to agree that these are odious debts

1:35:28 And Iraq, the people of Iraq will not have to pay this back. Because otherwise you know it's screwed we're going to spend all this money going there and we don't want you taking the oil It's our oil because we're conquering this so you have to say under odious debts they don't have to pay it back and they made a deal The deal was okay We'll give you a 40% cut on the debt, but you cannot go public and call it odious debt because that we don't want that shitstorm. We can have this concept being too well-known. So they did a deal rather than do the statement of odious debts? Exactly!

1:36:04 In particular, the Siemens scandal. And we've discussed it once or twice maybe because we really didn't look too deeply into it but Siemens really, really... They bribed all kinds of government and government officials they bought everybody off and a lot of these debts were incurred through the corrupt Siemens deal So what they're now trying to do, and of course it's not easy to get a hold of the documents but they now have a team. And this is not a team where you can't have government legislators You need people like John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry who can just go in and read a contract and say hey this is bull crap

1:36:44 And this is, you know clearly these guys are corrupt and therefore it's an odious debt. And that's what the fight is about right now Is the Greeks are now saying hold on odious debt This is debts that were made under corruption coercion we had nothing to do with it You cannot put this on the people We're not going to pay and that's what's going on right now I thought was fascinating It's only an hour and 15 minutes this documentary, but well worth it. Is it online? Where'd you get that? Yes no its online. Its freely available online link in the show notes at 408.nashownotes.com under Euroland And is called... Debtocracy? Dettocracy, yep Fascinating stuff! Nice Yeah of course No this probably the same thing going on in Spain Oh it's exactly the same thing going on in Spain Exactly the same

1:37:33 What I find interesting is that this thing about Iraq, ear rock. Ear rock yes correct let's say it correctly ear rock The ear rock situation is that they wanted to keep this term from getting too much into the public domain Correct Because because it has a...I'm looking over the same wiki page It is very powerful if you can make this kind of thing stick And that's international law. It would get Spain off the hook, it would get everybody thats been screwed over by you know the Germans essentially and the EU by creating these odious debt situations to just say we're walking from this odious debt You need a really courageous bunch of people to do this but I'll tell you when it comes time for America I'm there! I am a government legislation analyst here are my credentials

1:38:30 This is my partner John C. Dvorak, he assists me on Slide Whistle We're here to look at the papers Your papers please Meanwhile here's what you did not see in America on television How Spain is doing In Madrid thousands took to the streets They call themselves The Indignados A youth-led movement that first protested last year against economic hardship and political corruption A year on, they say little has changed. A year has gone by and nothing has happened. Things haven't improved at all. In fact they've got worse. The government hasn't sorted anything out. Everything is worse! Budget cuts are ongoing in health care and education. This is what we're demonstrating about

1:39:21 And there was real anger directed at the banks. We are ignored by the banks now that they have injected millions into them, that was exactly what they have taken from education we are a bit tired because they are always the same ones who take money They talk about crisis and there is no crisis They've turned private debt into public debt Unemployment in Spain is nearly 25% the highest in the eurozone. Here it's the young who are worst hit, half of all Spaniards under 25 are out of work Tonight a hundred thousand people gathered in the main square of Madrid as Spain joins the widening protests across Europe against austerity measures A hundred thousand people John? Where's Anderson Pooper? A hundred thousand people! This is Tahrir Square times four

1:40:17 A hundred thousand people. Pooper, get on the scene! No you can't because you're a slut of the banking uberlords I'm telling ya odious debt it's uh... It's a great term it's a great concept that's a legal concept has been used over and over The United States used it on Iraq This is very important stuff Very very important stuff That's a good find Is that how you compliment me daddy-o?

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1:58:23 The reason they're in the news is because the United Nations in Haiti 2011 report has come out. I've read this for you, I'm not going to dissect it you can take a look at it for yourself but its kind of funny right there in chapter 2 Can any good news come out of Haiti? Not if one listens to the eminent person who travels from the airport to the hotel and promptly pronounces that no progress has been achieved, or if you believe the TV correspondent who stands in front of a collapsed house and states that almost no rubble has been removed since the earthquake.

1:59:00 But this narrative of failure goes too far. Of course, in the aftermath of a major earthquake which just a few seconds caused damages estimated at $7 billion equivalent to slightly more than the country's gross domestic product in 2009 and extentive continuing cholera epidemic Haitians face enormous obstacles of recovery. Of course! The impact of these twin catastrophes Oh now it's twing catastrophes has been compounded by the reality that Haiti faced daunting and well-known structural problems even before these events struck so shut up So this whole report is like a big excuse. Shut up! Yeah, really?

1:59:36 So the, of course the fun news is that the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies is going to take ten and a half million dollars of the money that was raised. You remember when Bono and Bon Jovi and all the Hollywood guys and George Clooney and they all got together? It was on television! All the networks were running this thing it was to collect the money for the poor Haitians I remember watching it Yeah you know what they're gonna do with 10 1⁄2 million dollars of that Well, hold on a second. Are you telling me that this money hasn't already been spent on the Haitians? Oh no! In fact if you look at the annual or the 2011 report they haven't even spent 25% but The Red Cross who... You know like give your money to The Red Cross and then go in and help people now They're gonna build a hotel and conference center

2:00:31 The hope is, profits could sustain the work of Haiti's local Red Cross in the coming years. So they're giving it to themselves in the form a hotel and conference center. The 10-acre compound known as the Hilton property was purchased from Haiti's local cigarette company in the months after the quake The charity paid in a single payment. Yeah, they got cash! Hey! We got cash! We don't need a mortgage man we're cash buyers here Using funds donated by National Red Cross agencies. This is an outrage! So this is the people that phoned in, they punched up a number on their cell phone to get billed by the phone company and this where it went? Yep, to a hotel. But the real news... Did they get a discount at the hotel at least? Oh you might get a Hilton's reward card That's possible but the real news The real news came out yesterday They found gold Yeah

2:01:38 they expect 20 billion dollars worth of gold is in the ridges of the country's northeastern mountains. Yeah, yeah great! The Republic of Haiti will get not a nickel of it but when you read into this it turns out that mining can't... I'm there see that? Turns out there ya go You said it At least your catching yourself because I can't No its annoying Don't say that Curry So here's what being told I can't do it. Mining camps have been going on for years and US and Canadian investors, the one who caused the earthquake has spent more than 30 million in recent years in everything from exploratory drilling to camps for workers new roads offices and laboratory studies of samples actual mining has been underway for five years so think about this for your earthquake machine

2:02:38 Because of course they hadn't had an earthquake in 90 years. This was not a known fault Maybe they harped this thing Triggered it, not only to grab control of the country but to shake up the earth so they could get to the gold Well is it possible because we know that this can be done, it happened in California when they were trying to lubricate the fault some decades ago. Lubricate the fault? I like that! That's a good show title. Hey baby let me lubricate the fault They they were screwing around because this sounds doesn't sound like a gold mine in the classic sense where you'd Go in there with a pick and did we live with a mule or the mules with a mule and a bucket? It's more like this. You know it's like has to be torn literally has to be ground up And so yeah, I want

2:03:31 Crack a run crunch it yeah, you pound it with all kinds of heavy explosives And then they triggered an earthquake by accident what better way rather just do this silently well Yeah But there is very silent because no one knows about this 20 billion dollars that is That's five years worth of their GDP. Yeah and I think they were hoping they could mine this and ship it out the country before anyone got wind of it mm-hmm Well MSNBC reported this which I thought was interesting so they got wind of it There's other kinds of crazy things that are going on like that over all over the place sure The media does but but 20 billion dollars concerned about you know Romney shaving some kids head oh Boy meanwhile the true presidential candidate Ron Paul had breakfast with Ben Bernanke and

2:04:33 Oh, that must have been it. That would be great to be at that breakfast." Yeah it was just him and Ben and from the article is from Wall Street Journal the Fed chief and lawmaker had sort of an open discussion Mr Paul said while declining to provide any details with a conversation was off-the record what do you think happened? I think this if anything this is this is the meeting where its like hey boy You better stop this messing about now because you know, you got your son there in the Senate. How about this? Ron... Are you okay? You're not carrying a wire or anything? Everything that you say is true! I don't know what to do about it, Ron. It's not me that's controlling these things. I'm just told what to do but i can't tell you who's telling me otherwise I'll be dead tomorrow. Yeah, stop picking on me

2:05:34 I was interested. Do you need any help to get that nomination? So, I wonder why no one's talking about this what do you think that meeting is? That's a power breakfast right there and he's always messing with Bernanke in these hearings where could that have been? I hope we didn't have any oysters it would be bad. No, I don't know We'll find out in the weeks ahead Well, we won't Ron Paul...he's mum He's mum about the whole thing I was like, Ron. It is tungsten in Fort Knox you gotta lay off easy got nothing. The country is broke! Stop it man! We have nothing if you audit the Fed we're done let me show you this slide presentation let me show this powerpoint you see all that big plume of smoke? That's America Ron stop it now stop it it's all bullcrap

2:06:35 I don't know that he has a voice. He's an animatron, it doesn't actually happen. I can't even come close to catching it though I'd never do it so the big news of course in finance which I'd love to get your take on was uh was uh the morgue as they call it JPMorgan um all of sudden they had 20 billion dollars worth of losses I just want 22 billion dollars worth of losses with another billion coming But here's what I found rather interesting. He appeared on Meet the Press this morning and here is the lead in.

2:07:22 The man at the very top, bank chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon. Very powerful figure on Wall Street and beyond often outspoken no stranger to Washington He made the announcement about that loss on Thursday afternoon after the markets closed on Friday he sat down with me in New York Here's what was interesting...He actually did the interview on Wednesday And this was before the announcement on Thursday about the losses So then he had to come back and do the interview again. Now this was not known, but it got out and so later in the program Chip Gregory... What's his name? Pete? Chip! Chip Gregory says well you know we did an interview on Wednesday And then I had him come back. So if if you're being interviewed by Meet The Press and It's Wednesday

2:08:25 You know this is coming. I got to presume you know this is coming or that it could be covered up But then Thursday you have to announce it, either a not gonna go on meet the press but your you know Or are you going to mention it? Or something's gotta happen So is this telling me that Jamie Dimon did not know about this until the actual earnings call and It has to be. I mean, your analysis is absolutely correct there's no way he would have done this He would have put it off rescheduled There are a million ways of getting out of these things especially if you're Jamie Diamond What a name So yeah, he must've been completely caught off guard And this is being touted as... Sure he's chewing out the person that booked him on the show Somebody must've known No but even that person didn't know They did not know

2:09:17 But for this thing to come at the very moment when they're talking about the Volcker rule, and I mean... And this is obviously a derivatives deal that went bad. In your estimation, John C. Dvorak, a cyclist extraordinaire do you think that the fractal is kicking in? Is it time now for the derivatives which by some accounts is six to seven hundred trillion dollars? Is it going to unwind? Numbers unbelievable! Is this starting to unwind? Is this where it happens? Is this how it goes? And then we can of course speculate if its by design but what do you think? Well no I would always say was a cycle. I will say this Opened up a bank account at chase when we just moved here and the only reason was Christina my daughter she opened to chase account in Los Angeles against my better judgment and recommendation in You know what? So when she comes up short, I gotta send her cash And they do have a pretty simple system as you can do right through your phone. Um

2:10:13 So, you know I put some money in there. They're really nice people I have to say. You can't go to the bank and just do a transaction. You gotta sit down talk about the bank manager's kids... And of course I'm gonna scam them to get money to buy this land and build Camp MoFo if we're lucky He called me at least three times in the past two months To check-in see how everything was doing which is a cash call essentially And I'm not putting money in there. I just have some, you know that's just in there to send to Christina So my thinking is that the word was already out that they needed to recapitalize and get money because that's how it works You know the the word goes out Hey, we need more money go call everybody go call make your calls so I think there's something bigger going on here

2:11:07 You might be on to something. And it could be structural and huge, and it could be... I mean well the cycle would have it that we would have a economic collapse there's two things that can happen in this decade We have, which is very reminiscent of the 1890 to the turn of the century model. That's what I'm looking for Dvorak that's what i'm talking about yes Which would be 2013 right after Obama was elected it would be a collapse even if or Romney either one Romney can blame Obama if it happens so he'd be in pretty good shape but Obama's got nobody to blame but himself if that happens and it should happen in 2013 unless with another was a major major major depression lasting probably year two maybe maybe longer I bet it would never really perk back up just because of flat. That means thats the cycle, thats what the cycles got written all over this what supposed to happen as when normally does happen it has been

2:12:04 thwarted only a couple of times and it could be thwarted by huge infusion of printed, you know crank the printing presses up like there's no tomorrow. Not this, you know they're talking about oh it was a trillion we were talking about 20 trillion dollars needs to be pumped into the system so I don't think they have the guts to do that so that's not gonna happen now if they did somehow crank things up so you could push off the depression of 2013 It's still gonna happen in 2017 no matter what you do. And if it happens in 2013, its going to happen again in 2017 no matter what you do but I think next year and everyone is already getting prepared for this falling off the cliff and all the rest of this kind of discussion I think has been geared up

2:12:48 clip of after show clip of George Soros discussing economics and the new theories that are needed to explain what things are while things are going I think will adequately explains why we're gonna have a crash. Oh good, oh goody! And what can we do to prepare for said crash? Our economic professor our Professor in Economics John C Borak Well, every time it's different so you never know. I mean it's almost unpredictable but one thing that Swedish people have discovered is that farmland is a really good place to put your money So screw Krugman listen to Dvorak Krugman doesn't know crap Farmland well good dude yeah I'll have some land I can farm on it Yeah just get more acres than you normally would You can't afford it man

2:13:35 I can get half an acre. If the economy collapses in 2013, farmland should collapse with it and then recover rather quickly? Yeah oh yeah and now i'll be rolling in the dough Not if donations don't go up Meanwhile over there on Gitmo Nation East The slaves are being trained that the government takes care of you Here's a commercial that was running on the BBC which I found to be abhorrent Politics doesn't really affect us does it Oh, apart from the cost of our heating and the fat content of our food. How often our streets are cleaned? The starting knife our children have and whose hand they can have in marriage! The minimum wage... ...the maximum wage... Recycling... Cycle lanes... Care homes... First Homes... Sherlock Holmes

2:14:38 Oh, and the air we breathe. Yeah apart from all that. Bunch of commies over there, man. Well on the topic of the Brits I did catch some of the Testimonies they're continuing this just testimony about the wiretapping or their phone is it just me? Or does Rebecca Brooks the former editor of News of The World that she looked like a skanky ho or is it just me? well Don't forget she was like 30 or something when she got to her first editorship and I think was at The Sun

2:15:21 But she looks like, she does look like a... She looks like man. She's just to put it mildly when you see her and you... She is very sharp by the way but when you see her and you see how fast she moves up the ladder You have this even though this is a very sexist thing to say I want apologize to our female night at dames. She looks like a blowjob artist. She looks of the kind woman that should be wearing a poncho Well, she does look like a hippie too. Yeah So okay so she expressed... Blowjob artist! What? I mean never have i ever looked at a woman and thought that only you John That took you awhile

2:16:03 Just realized what you said I was too busy in the media center All right, so what do you got here Rebecca Brooks? So she I was actually surprised by what she said here because I would have suspected that Rupert red Rupert Was more of the guy that really tries to commercialize things but this is kind of an interesting thing This is the first clip put just Rebecca Brooks Yes views on Europe presumably. You are a US skeptic Correct? Yes, I suppose so. And politically you... your position is fairly similar to Mr Murdoch's is it? In some areas yes. Which areas do they differ? Well we disagreed about quite a few things and in more in margins of it rather than the principles though I don't know if the environment DNA database immigration top-up fees

2:17:06 the amount of celebrity in the paper versus serious issues, columnists, the design, the headline size, the font size. I mean you know we had a lot of disagreements but in the main on the big issues we had similar views. And so on the issue amount of celebrity against serious issues where did each of you stand on that? I like more celebrity and he wanted more serious issues. So that caught me off guard! You know, i'm going to be talking to Super Agent Keith when Mickey and I get married in Amsterdam on July He's coming over from the UK...he knows all these people inside out you know? He would work with the money flow

2:17:56 He's known as the Bishop of Soho. He will give me some real insight into what happened, you watch I'll have tons of stories oh yeah so anyway just an aside she also explains what she meant by liking more celebrity and this is by the way She is a modern editor, I think they all think this way at this point They don't give a crap about educating the public in any shape or form And why did you want more celebrity? Well, I liked...I thought the readers were quite interested in we only have to look at the viewing figures of BBC or ITV to see that it's the celebrity programs, the real life with reality programs that do so well. and i took from those figures our readers were quite interested in that he though there was too much of it although he liked X Factor

2:18:48 But she's absolutely right. Can you imagine us pitching this show to Red Rupert? Rupert, we got a great idea! We're gonna deliver real news and dissect all this bull crap and we'll have no audience Exactly which is what we've got And that's our model Rupert don't you love it You know can just see the guy going like what?! That's not gonna happen Not on my watch Yeah I know its kind of pathetic So there was a Pentagon briefing, actually I think it was Department of Defense although it was Panetta and Dempsey. Dempsey I kind of like because he shoots his mouth off and...I like the guy on one hand because I think he's probably a good commander on the other hand

2:19:35 He's a little egocentric, you know he feels like Panetta is getting too much press and he'll be like well yeah yes me to question too so let me answer it my way. And he messes up when he does that So this is regarding Yemen first of all Did you know that we... He should be great guy have a drink with Oh Dempsey? Yeah in fact Atomic Rod knows him and says that he is a good guy Atomic rod was on nuclear sub for 30 years or whatever So did you know that we have sent troops into Yemen? We have boots on the ground. Well, I mean we've talked about the troops that were sent in over a year ago but they're all stealth No, we send in new troops but they are for training mission Oh, the famous training mission A training mission! so the question comes from... good question by the way nice dude who's an old grey

2:20:36 Gray idiot who's never gonna get asked back again after this announcement the department's announcement the other day that military trainers are being returned to Yemen What is the prospect? Even deeper us military involvement in Yemen and coming months whether it be air power or ground forces with regards to the Yemen question as I said time and time again that Count the times he says Al-Qaeda and ring your bell. We will go after al Qaeda wherever they are and wherever they try to hide And one of the places that they clearly are located is Yemen we've obviously

2:21:24 The United States, both military and intelligence communities have gone after Al Qaeda. And we continue to go after Al Qaeda. The recent threat that concerned all Americans about the possibility of another effort to take down an American airliner has come out of Yemen and it's for that reason that we will continue to to take all of the steps necessary to try and go after those who would threaten our country, and threaten the safety of American people. We have operations there, the Yemenis have actually been very cooperative in the operations that we've conducted there, and we will continue to work with them to go after the enemies that threatened the United States."

2:22:18 So this actually didn't say it all that often. No, I didn't say at all it wasn't yeah, but Dempsey's you'll hear Dempsey in a moment so if I interesting is the he brings up the well You know we thwarted a jet bomb attack which is bullcrap It's just bull crap That's not true We didn't thwart anything and it was apparently the Brits are now taking responsibility hey was actually an mi6 guy who? Really oh yeah Oh Yeah The Brits are saying it was an MI 6 guy So, you know there's all kinds of credit that's not flowing properly and everyone is all pissed off about it. It wasn't supposed to come out like this and yes it was a bad leak but then Dempsey

2:22:58 He says something pretty incredible, which is exactly the opposite of what is supposed to happen. Because you know what happens when there's all kinds of bull crap in these countries? We have the responsibility to protect we have an entire executive committee that president put together When there's when we have internal strife and evil dictators And let's face it Yemen has a dictatorial government If you can even call it a government, then we go in when there's stuff going on right? Then we do that and we have the no-fly zone. We're going to protect the people correct You'd think Yeah, there's no consideration of that our operations now are Directed with the Yemenis Going after al Qaeda

2:23:47 If I could contribute to that part of the question, or that question as well. We've had a decades long relationship security cooperation relationship with Yemen we suspended it during the period of their civil unrest and as President Hadi began to restore constitutional order to the situation were reappearing in terms of our building partner capacity but... That makes no sense! What makes no sense about it? When there was civil unrest, we left. No that's yeah and then when things were calmed down again it was a constitutional...we came in We came right back in! Yeah makes doesn't make sense if you think of it yeah And so then the question comes up about Syria Hey is their Al-Qaeda in Syria? I haven't seen any intel to suggest that AQ was responsible for those attacks although we do know that There have been extremist elements that are trying to make inroads in Syria

2:24:47 Oh, really? So there are extremists like Al-Qaeda. Of course! But let's disclaim this quickly... That is to be distinct from the opposition I'm not tying those together you know Idiot You can just see Panetta kicking him under the table. X-Nay on the Al Qaeda A idiot don't just say that Shh did that in front of the boss Okay, I've got the Sunday Times here. Oh Do you need to jingle? Oh yeah why not Pretty bit that times is having problems are starting to lay people off this just may be the last You know they need to go all value for value it'll be great The paper will be one page

2:25:51 Big front page story on the cost of education soaring, young adults play a growing price in loans. We talk about that on our show of course. A generation hobbled by college debt huge huge front top-of-the-fold big picture of some girl I don't know why she's doing this but she looks like she's at her restaurant counting tips She got a bunch of money on the counter and that's about it. So that's the big story, they're going after that Tea Party focus turns to Senate and shake up is on the left doesn't mean anything to me US made this is kind of interesting though And this is their far right column top

2:26:27 US made jettisoned efforts to train Iraq police units, key mission in disarray. Costly project falters as American influence shows a decline." In other words the whole thing is done! Yeah we suck below the fold we got echoing out of Texas a story that caught my attention because you were of course are in Texas Echoing out of Texas, Chinese voice of dissent. Hmm... I don't know what quite that's about but i guess somebody in Texas complains about the Chinese

2:27:07 What do they do? In an e-book era, rule for writers is type faster. Yeah more books right you got to do one a year yeah I gotta crank them out and there's a picture of Romney speaking to these guys at Liberty College A couple little minor caught the little group of minor stories missile plans worry Londoners about those missiles in the rooftops budget crisis in California You know there's just on the missiles in London There's awesome crackpot video That you can find under out there in the show notes for zero eight on any shown us calm title of the video 100,000 to die at the London Olympics and they have all these media messages and You know coincidences. And then of course is the Illuminati playing card deck

2:27:57 The assumption here or the assertion is that a dirty nuke will go off during the Olympic Games. It's a good crackpot video to watch if you're into that. Well it sounds like a winner! It is, I thoroughly enjoyed it please have a look. Pretty much there isn't much going on Well, then we can close it out because I got more to say. But you have the little Olympic things as you brought it up there's a screwball sculpture they built at Olympic Park and I have a clip describing it and this is kind of ask Adam because it has a question that you'll guess the question when when you play the clip. I'm just looking for it. It's right at the bottom WTF sculpture yeah here we go London's latest landmark an awkward odd-looking tangle of red steel

2:28:47 It looks like a Helter Skelter, but it's actually a sculpture called the Orbit. Okay? Ask Adam! Ask Adam! Yeah! What's the question? It looks like a Helter Skelter? Yeah... What does that mean?! Uh.. well now somewhere I remember there was some reference to this somewhere along on second I don't know what you're talking about I was reading a recent Helter Skelter reference and not in not in reference to the song or to Manson or anything what was that Something weird about it. That's a good question well the whole and that whole thing is completely Illuminati based you've got the big pyramids Did you see the Olympic flame got blown out? The high priestess was I love when that happens yeah, so they Had a ceremony and actually they called her the High Priestess this whole thing Yeah Oh, yeah The BBC call it the hot that she's the high priestess. I had it on last week show I didn't play the clip

2:29:51 And yeah, the high priestess and then a big gust of wind comes. It blows out you see this girl like what do I do now? And they lit it with a parabolic mirror. The whole thing is It's, well anyway a hundred thousand to die. Get out of London is my advice you know you never know it can't hurt to get out. How does anything look like a Helter Skelter? Here are couple little things in the book of knowledge says that Helter Skelters is a nickname for Bishop's Gate Tower, a skyscraper under construction in London That's just the name of it. What a limitless let me do helter-skelter Lyrics, let's see what is there a clue there may be in the lyrics to help escape towers pretty It is very pretty see the lyrics for helters guy line started look like Dallas Not liking it

2:30:47 The lyrics I'm coming down fast. Oh, yeah when I get to the bottom I go back to the top of the slide when I stop or turn around don't want me to love you I'm coming down no No, I don't think there's a nothing in the lyrics since it looks like a helter-skelter. That's referring to this I'm just I'm just searching man. I miss what I do. Yeah, I gotta find it There's nothing this is I don't know what they guys talking about why the guy didn't call him on it What are you talking about? Meanwhile here some great news researchers at the you know on a second I hate that interview but yeah look at this picture go to Helter Skelter in the book of knowledge mm-hmm just a word helter there's a bunch of but the one is just help your skeleton then do it then go away here it is bishops gate tower is what you want. You got to go to Bishops Gate Tower from The Book Of Knowledge page? Yeah, The Book Of Knowledge should say Bishop Gates Tower should have a standalone entry hold on its got a picture of the tower and

2:31:46 I'm looking for it. Bishop Gates Tower, right? Okay... Hmm. You referred to as the pinnacle you see that mm-hmm okay now click on the tower picture on the right and what's that's not it hold on pick on this click on the other one where is planning and design the big disguise scene yeah yeah then he got the bullet you got the tower in the group and then you have R2D2 Yeah! You're Right! What Is This?! It's R2D2 Good catch. Yeah, absolutely right I wonder what building that is All right researchers you know this is my head always goes whoa Researchers at the University of Michigan they've done something outstanding John They have tweaked the connect sensor You know the Microsoft Connect

2:32:51 Which is that three cameras thing? Yeah, yeah. The thing with the eyeballs And they have brought it into the classroom They...the K'NEX motion sensor can now be used to observe children and to pick up on whether they exhibit symptoms of autism You've developed a maniacal laugh you know How can you not?! So here put this in the red book Your kid's gonna be at home spinning Of course You know, that's what kids do. And I can just imagine the kid puts his head on the ground and spins around that That's a good spin Or maybe just with arms out spinning around Your connect is going to register that and then you're gonna get a knock at the door! It's gonna be... uh.. I'm sorry We obviously know your kid has autism and we need to give him some shots

2:33:55 If you have a Kinect, get it out of your house. It's very bad idea to have these things And you can cross this one off from the book...from the red book What's in the red book about tuberculosis? Oh that was long time ago I had to be digging in the book for awhile World Health Organization Extreme drug resistant strains of tuberculosis has now been found in 70 countries and its doctors fault What we are seeing worldwide is the emergence of strains of the bacillus causing tuberculosis that are resistant to most of the drugs we have available. Director of World Health Organization Stop TB campaign is saying, here it is

2:34:45 In certain cases, public clinics run out of stock of the proper medicine. But increasingly private sector practitioners are to be blamed in India which has the highest prevalence of TB in the world 50-70% of patients referred to private doctors when they begin coughing They don't want to queue and public clinics that are overwhelmed or congested And instead of prescribing the four-drug six month regime recommended by the World Health Organization, who I'm sure somehow are being paid. Private clinics prescribe either too many drugs which is a waste of money and increases toxicity and also increases drug resistance So you're taking the wrong meds slave You've got to take our meds which are World Health Organization approved

2:35:30 I told you this was... there you go. You've got it right there. In Gitmo Nation East, just staying on the medical front here Big Pharma prescriptions of Ritalin for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder have quadrupled in the last 10 years that's a lot yes i would say all right I'm done you're done? let me just check and see if I'm done

2:36:06 Yeah, the HPV thing I still want to get into that but I need more time to formulate it. There's a crackpot thing if you just want to go out on a funny note. Just summarize? Yes it's a very quick summary. A crackpot note is that Mark Zuckerberg... That his real name is Jacob Greenberg and there are mugshots of this Jacob Greenberg who was arrested several years ago for marijuana and it is a he's just hold it right there I have a I got up magazine with the picture of him on the cover design and looking at it and I'm saying this guy is smoking dope because you've got those red bloodshot eyes like these so you know when you are talking about always MK ultra

2:36:56 It's very obvious that he is smoking dope based on his eyeballs. Well, that fits in with Jacob Greenberg who was arrested and if Mark Zuckerburg which by the way is German for Sugar Mountain which is kind of interesting as a code name for Facebook It's a honeypot, the sugar mountain. Remember $500 million investment from Incutel started that thing then his family members would be the Rockefellers because what yeah the Greenbergs are related to the Rockefellers and the Rockefellers of course own 8% of Facebook is that right? According to their perspectives

2:37:53 So keep your eye on Zuckerberg. It's a good one, yeah Okay we'll follow this Yeah well Why not? Nobody else is No That's gonna be the dog of an IPO though I can tell you that If they ever get out Maybe that why Jamie Dimon did all this now So they don't have to take Facebook out Well it could be one of things if you can kind of put the market in stall no ones going to bring out an IPO And they've been stalling it for awhile looks like Hmm. We'll see it's gonna be his next week Yeah, well maybe the 1 billion dollar additional loss that's coming is from the Facebook IPO Maybe that's what he's saying maybe it's all just code this might be elaborate code But I was look forward in a crossword puzzle Alright so miss Mickey and I are flying to LA this afternoon we're going to visit my daughter So I will be submitting myself in the tunnel of humiliation to the TSA rapists should be fun

2:38:57 And we have an end of show clip coming up. George Soros on economics, boring but fun to watch John says, fun to listen too. Happy Mother's Day everybody! Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state here at Camp MoFo in Austin Tejas In The Morning my name is Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I also say Happy Mother's Day to all you mothers. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back again on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Ever since the crash of 2008, there has been a widespread recognition both among economists and the general public that economic theory has failed

2:39:45 But there is no consensus on the extent of that failure, even among participants of this conference. As a sponsor of INET I'm delighted because it shows that INET is open to a wide variety of new economic thinking but also a proponent of an alternative interpretation of financial markets and in that capacity I take a different position. I believe that the failure is more profound than generally recognized, it goes back to the very foundations of economic theory

2:40:39 Economics tried to imitate Newton's physics. It sought to establish universally and timelessly valid laws governing reality, but economics is a social science and there is a fundamental difference between natural and social sciences Social phenomena have thinking participants who base their decisions on imperfect knowledge. That is what economics has tried to ignore. Scientific methods needs an independent criterion by which the truth or validity of theories can be judged. Natural phenomena

2:41:37 constitute such an independent criterion. Social phenomena don't, that's because natural phenomena consist of facts that occur independently of what anybody says the facts then serve as objective evidence by which the validity of scientific theories can be judged That has enabled natural science to produce amazing results. Social sciences, by contrast have thinking participants who have a will of their own they are not detached observers but engaged decision makers whose decisions greatly influence the course of events

2:42:31 Therefore, the events don't constitute an independent criterion by which the participants can decide whether their views are correct. In the absence of an independent criterion people have to base their decisions not on knowledge but on an inherently biased and to a greater or lesser extent distorted interpretation of reality. Now get out there and whoop Obama's behind!