Episode 397 · Thursday, 5 April 2012

Wiggin' Out

Federal spending scandals erupt as the White House defends its Supreme Court rhetoric and new surveillance legislation quietly advances through the House of Representatives.

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About this episode

President Barack Obama fired GSA Administrator Martha Johnson following a scathing Inspector General audit of a Las Vegas training conference. The report detailed $822,000 in taxpayer waste, including expenditures for a mind reader, commemorative coins, and a bicycle-building exercise. Representative Darrell Issa is leading the congressional inquiry into the scandal as the administration faces mounting pressure over federal spending habits.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney defended the President's recent criticisms of the Supreme Court by narrowing the legal context to 80 years of Commerce Clause precedent. Meanwhile, the State Department issued a $10 million bounty for Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, who responded by holding a public press conference in Pakistan to mock the reward. In the tech sector, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) is moving through the House, offering legal immunity to companies that share private user data with federal agencies. Internationally, Vladimir Putin is reportedly funding research into psychotronic zombie guns and geophysical weaponry designed to target the central nervous system.

John C. Dvorak celebrates his 60th birthday with a slide whistle performance and a flood of listener donations from the Netherlands to Australia. Adam Curry battles a gnat infestation in the Austin studio while Dvorak recommends a DIY UV light trap. The duo also critiques a C-SPAN student documentary for promoting government regulation over First Amendment protections.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 397 Introduction, John C. Dvorak 60th Birthday

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 397 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts celebrate Dvorak's 60th birthday, born in 1952, featuring a slide whistle performance. Technical issues with Skype and Comcast are noted during the opening banter.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· birthday· austin texas· silicon valley· skype

00:00 But it's a simple fact, that is the way the government can control the population. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Thursday April 5th 2012 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 397 This is no agenda Eagle in Arizona coming to you from Camp Molfo and the capital of The Drone Star State Austin Tejas In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where they're cracking down on pot! I'm John C. Dvorak Well well before we do anything John let me say happy birthday. Well, thank you very much And I have a birthday present for you ah nice yeah, I've been practicing hold on a second Oh

01:00 How was that? On my slide whistle. I don't know how you play the bongos and play the slide whistle at the same time, doesn't really make a lot of sense if you think about it. With my foot! I did it with my foot. Oh okay then... Yeah got one of those setups yeah 60 years old man cool so you were born in what 52 am I saying that right? 1952 well yeah I have a bunch of people saying that they were born in 1852. That's kind of weird though, I was thinking about that last night is because you actually... You're basically too young for Vietnam. You're kind of like in between generations in a way. They kept sending people to Vietnam until the mid 70s Oh all of sudden someone decided to make your Skype sound like crap

01:51 Oh really? Yeah. Happy birthday to me from Skype and from Comcast or whoever else seems to care well in the morning to you John C Devorah! In the morning to you Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air and washing ashore Indeedy and I'd like to say hi to all of the human resources everyone is charged up Really ready to go in the chat room noagendastream.com NoAgendaChat.net They are here to celebrate John C. Dvorak's 60th birthday, which is always nice and We'll probably do some other things along the way like I would hope yeah Let me just check my button here It was really weird just before we started that button went on the fridge no when you cleaned Yeah, I don't understand what's going on oh man so many distractions John

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

General Services Administration Excessive Spending, Martha Johnson Firing

President Barack Obama fired GSA Chief Martha Johnson following an Inspector General audit revealing excessive taxpayer spending at a Las Vegas training conference. The report detailed $822,000 in expenses, including a mind reader, commemorative coins, and a bicycle-building exercise. The hosts analyze the political fallout and Representative Darrell Issa's role in highlighting the scandal.

gsa· martha johnson· barack obama· las vegas· taxpayer money· micah· inspector general

02:42 So many distractions. It's now the distraction of the day. I should actually do it. Developing story on the Washington watchdog beat tonight. President Obama has fired the chief of the General Services Administration, Martha Johnson after an audit found excessive spending taxpayer money at a training conference and a Las Vegas luxury hotel. The expenses included $3200 for a mind reader

03:17 $6,300 on a commemorative coin set displayed in velvet boxes and $75,000 on a training exercise to build a bicycle. Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Please don't look at MF Global please don't look into anything like that. Please please please pay attention to those guys over there you know I read this report which by the way is very hard to find the It's from the Inspector General, it's the final management deficiency report. You know... you know this is to me this is of course set up by the Republicans and this is actually Micah doing he has all kinds of cute little words like well what stays in Vegas doesn't stay in Vegas! They had 300 people there and John you and I have been many of these management retreat

04:16 And yeah, you hire some guy to do team building and he costs three and a half grand. Yeah it was 100 bucks for food. That's what it cost you know? It was like more than 300 people! And included travel and catering and hotel costs... If they're all coming in from Washington or all over the place You can probably assume its going to be $1000 ahead just to get them there and back So that is $300k right there Yes, you know whose fault is that well here. I have the breakdown here the pre-conference so travel catering vendors other hotel costs 130 36 thousand

04:57 And then for the conference itself, another $686k. Total $822k. You know this... Go see what it costs, what Oracle spends or Salesforce when they bring all their regional people in Now I'm not defending this! It's like so ludicrous and then they totally blew it because they're trying to... Actually listen to Micah He's trying to make, oh just the tip of the iceberg we're gonna nail him now. What happened in Vegas isn't staying in Vegas or being covered up We were all appalled when we saw that IG report which outlined over $800,000 for a lost Vegas junket for GSA and rightfully people have been removed from their positions in GSA so

05:48 This is where it backfired because It came out as the president saw this and fired everybody so you know they were trying to make it look like of course, you know that that the Administration everyone who's in there a bunch of low-life low life douchebags which is true. I Well, you know there's another thing at play here too. Micah is the one who is the biggest opponent of the TSA and Department Of Homeland Security and they refuse to cooperate with him because he's on one of those major committees they never give him the stuff he wants right so he's just saying look if you guys want to play that way I can have a lot of fun with some of these agencies let's just shake things up and he'll go after another one after this

06:32 Until he gets his way with the DH department of Homeland Security, that's my thinking. No well that's a possibility I can buy into that. Everything's a political game, and this seems to be... But really it just like- It worked! That was great distraction except for you and me because it was like yeah I agree Oracle drops how many millions of dollars on that event they do in San Francisco every year? It is ridiculous although they have people pay to go to it You have to pay a lot of money but they're still not making money on it that I know off

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Whitney Houston Death Investigation, Dr. Drew Pinsky Analysis

Dr. Drew Pinsky disputes the official coroner's report regarding Whitney Houston's death, suggesting a seizure rather than accidental drowning. The discussion touches on the "Hollywood Whackers" theory and alleged Illuminati rituals involving Nicki Minaj. Speculation is raised about the positioning of the body and potential foul play.

whitney houston· dr. drew pinsky· coroner report· hollywood whackers· nicki minaj· autopsy

07:10 Anyway, so you know it's just like really and meanwhile MF global nothing Crickets can't hear a single thing Just to name one little minor minor thing in think I'm a Bobby Yeah It was just like wow that there was so actually this morning something came through which kind of vindicated my thinking which i'm quite happy about Another tale of the Hollywood Whackers. But now of course Dr. Drew who was on a rampage, on a tear for weeks saying this is what happens when you take pharmaceutical drugs! So now he's changed his story which is even better. The coroner said that Houston died of an accidental drowning but didn't specify just how it happened cocaine use and heart disease were listed as contributing factors HLN's dr drew analyzed the report and came up with a different opinion

08:19 The fact is this autopsy report shows that she had nominal, nominal heart disease. Almost none not sufficient to explain what happened to her You also mentioned she was found face down in water How do you have a heart attack or take too much medication and slip into the water and drown? And end up face down the way that happens is seizure I add the entire score up and i get seizure here. I'm saying once again they killed her dude! Seizure that would have shown up in the report because a seizure is like, is that not a clot? Is it like a blood clot in your brain? It could be any number of things but I mean that would have showed up on on the final report would it not have

09:01 Don't you think? I have no idea what kind of report they gave me. You're a doctor! What are you talking about, you don't know?! Why would i know!? You're a doctor!! I'm Dr John Which is face down. Here's what happened. I know it sounds like somebody grabbed her and shoved her into the water and walked out of the place. Killed her! That's exactly what i said. And they left her face down to send a message. Exactly, just so you know. That would be your theory of the Hollywood Whackers because they would do something like that face down to send a message. And then everyone partied And then everyone party right we had a great party and then now we had Nicki Minaj do a whole Ritual you know the whole demonistic evil Illuminati ritual whatever yeah, which no one has still been able to explain if she was killed This is so obvious But hey the movies coming out. So that's all good when it's just crazy. So there's all these are all these

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, No Agenda Knighthood Ceremony

The hosts acknowledge high-tier donors and executive producers, including a "12-12-12" donation from Brett Lamont in Queensland. Several listeners are granted knighthoods or associate executive producer status for their financial support. Personal notes from donors regarding health issues, home hunting, and birthdays are read on air.

brett lamont· mary nicole· craig porter· scott hankel· linda nguyen· paypal· donations

10:01 all these minor distractions which there actually was quite a lot of stuff going on. I'd love to hear what you got at the top of your list Well, before we get into it I want to start with our executive producers so we can get that quickly out of the way. We want to honor them quickly. Well, I don't mean quickly out of the way what i meant by that is move it higher because its so important I wanna move it higher. Listen to him backpedaling! Yeah you do! Alright, move them higher up the list which was your initial intent John please. It was my birthday of course and so we got a lot of... because I sent out an email and said hey it's my birthday hook me up brother! $60 dollars? We..I want to really thank those people a ton but let's start with our executive producers including Brett Lamont who came in from Narangaba

11:01 Queensland is that right really I believe so 1212 12 and I have to look in the email because he said no comments here, but this is then a A twelve twelve twelve night we have yeah Yeah He may actually be this first or second one of these. I think it's the second one um so there's no note No, there's no notes. It's weird hold on a second Lamont check Mont let me see if I have anything in my box. Oh, I'm checking my box Here we go. I have areas good night. Do I got it? Yeah you got it he doesn't

11:46 Okay, says I've been enjoying the show for ages now and had to donate. I'd saved and managed to donate the amount of 12-12-12 which i hope will allow you two fine men To continue to keep us educated and entertained And I would like to request a hey citizen You've got karma double shot please? I'm about to fly out to another weekend in the mines And we'll have to get back to you with my ring size once I get some time back in civilization and actually get my ring finger measured. Keep up the fight, it's an honor to be able to donate assistance any small way to keep the show going. Not sure if that will be the first Triple 12 night but i hope so!

12:25 I'm thinking he is and he forget. He also wants to mention that day once do what it's also a happy birthday shout out for me Let's give him a hey citizen. I got a special Hey citizen for him, so let me see if I can do this You may return your business citizen you've got karma Hey citizen, I got some new hey citizens and yeah, I heard that's funny. Mary, anyway thanks to Brett for becoming a 12121212 this is the luckiest thing you can do. Thank you. Mary Nicole in Farmington Hills Michigan also an executive producer at $628 Happy Birthday Wow! To Sir Matt Nicole You're now an elite warrior sworn up sworn uphold the values of faith loyalty and courage

13:23 Yeah, this is Mary who remember she wanted to make sure we did a birthday shout out for him which we did even though she hadn't been able to transfer funds and so she's making good on it. That's great okay that's good. So Matt will be at night too? Good! We have nightings today what an exciting program John. Nightings... JC ran in here say something about get most slave Is that Brett? No. No, no, no. Oh, Gitmo Slave was the first 1212 night. Oh, Gitmo Slave was the first one. Sir Gitmo Slave to you! Yes sir yes okay okay well Brett your number two which is lucky Craig Porter, Jacksonville Florida $500. So I wanted to kick some scratch in for the 400 show also wish happy birthday to fellow Aries! I'd like to request some karma from my friend Tara in Connecticut she is having a lot of life issues right now and she needs some no agenda karma help get her through I know it works all right here we go you've got Karma

14:20 Joseph Faiella in Brooklyn, New York. $400 which is a member of the 400 Club he'll be renamed again on show 400 as an executive producer there gets two for the price of one. Scott Hankel Sir Scott Hankel to you Sunland California 396 please send a karma shout out to The Misses and I are home hunting home hunting quest we have placed many of offers but none have landed yet hopefully soon keep up the good work on the greatest podcast in the universe. Alright here you go, Home Hunting Karma for ya! Stand back. I've got karma. Yeah yeah yeah. Our last executive producer is Linda Nguyen

15:05 Houston, Texas over there 333 dot 33 a whole hola John and Adam I laid in bed at 2am thinking of what to get my husband Fox fern for his 30th birthday on April 6 and thought what could possibly look better next to the challenge coin than a knighthood ring longtime boner first-time donor with this donation towards my husband's knighthood marking a new beginning we recently added a human resource six weeks ago our son piglet Nicknamed such because he would rather vomit this than say no to more breast milk Kids gonna be huge. You know me kids already 20 pounds yeah, well He's got good taste anyway our lives have changed forever a wonderful husband has quickly become a caring father all three of us love listening to the best podcast in the universe

15:55 Please give a 30th shout out to my husband and John at 60th. Happy 60th! Could I request the de-douching and a shot of karma for both my husband or new son? Lastly, could you add my favorite jingle from our governor Adios Mofo? Okay hold on a second...I'm sorry i wasn't prepared for this. This show is produced on the On the fly here. Okay, so this is what makes it fresh! Here we go. You've been de-douche'd. You've got karma. Adios mofo... tight Yeah it's tight and that the adios mofo was over modulated kind of Oh oh are gonna be picky now all of a sudden? I'm just saying its over modulating yeah and the slide whistle is so on key Hey

16:46 Anders Edg... Edg... Edquist. Edquist! Sounds good to me In Hagersten, Sweden I'm guessing 2 5 6 he's our associate executive producer like my 8-bit donation to be attributed to Sunday show oh I'm sure this should be on Sunday but I'm gonna mention anyway buddies and we'll put the birthday we got a move the birthday take the birthday off the list it goes on Sunday can you do that yeah Apparently I can't do audio, but yeah You're not just gonna gripe about it's not your fault that is over modulate. That's the way that clip was Yeah alright So he's off the list But he will be on the list Sunday Sunday Sun and we'll take him off that which is moving to Sunday Kent O'Rourke and Frostburg Maryland two three four five six happy birthday John donating of The Greatest Podcast in Universe believe It Takes Me

17:38 I believe this takes me to knighthood. And he needs a karma shot on top of that. Absolutely. You've got karma. Ian Webb in Glendale, Arizona 23369 Okay here it goes guys been long time boner for about a year so this will make me a first-time boner...I mean first time donor My buddy Justin Peck hit me in the mouth and I haven't looked back or missed a show since. I just found out the other night he's been listening for two years and has yet to donate so he and my other buddy Chris Coates who has yet to donate need a double douchebag call-out. Oh my goodness, hold on a second! That's one...and that's two

18:26 I asked for myself, I could use a well overdue Hey Citizen de-douching but wait! I'm adding 69.69 to get some laid Carmen $60 for you John happy birthday and i know it's not much but here is a dollar for every show over the last year bringing the grand total of 23369 small step toward knighthood But I'm finally on my way. Keep up the good work for us men of the mind! Alright, so deduce... You've been deduced. And karma. You've got karma. Perfect. You left that to Hey Citizen? No I didn't. Hey citizen. Well wait a minute let me make up for it with a new citizen here we go Yes citizen you may return your harpsichord

19:14 How many of these do you have? A couple. Michael Werner in Vestal, New York 22222 I need a new job and applying to places for over a year with no luck currently waiting on the call back from my latest interview that's one yet i'm optimistic but I haven't heard anything for two weeks and I think it still go either way little karma from you guys might be enough to tip it over at the edge thanks for this show You've got karma He also mentions that we expose far more important news in two hours than any of those cable networks do in 24 hours. Hey! That's very kind of you Sir Lennarton Groningen Groningen? Groningen, 2015. Penny for each day for John's birthday. Penny a day it's 21915 for anyone out there doing the math and finally Ryan Burgett

20:08 $201 and one cent. And I don't see a note from him, let me just take a quick gander since we got this thing open. B-U-R-G E-T-T? Right yeah and to see if he sent a note that we missed. Ah yes please read on four What? 4 or 5, that's today. So only figuring out how to properly have a leave a note with my donations no it's funny because most people have figured it out is very easy yeah you just put in the in your donation there with on PayPal Yeah but I guess it's I don't know what some people say there's no box and other people says about I don't know maybe it's the browser issue whatever the case is in the morning rather than bitch about my inability to properly leave a note

21:01 I sounded like an idiot. I decided to again donate love the dissemination of knowledge crack pottery and information that you provide on becoming a better human resource at Adam if you're convinced about chemtrails do you advocate people use cloud busters Hey, you know we haven't talked about cloud busters in a long time. And you were gonna build one? You know when after we built the container house which by the way after watching those tornadoes in Dallas Mickey's like that's not such a good idea these containers fly Yeah those are loose though they're not on foundation I'm just kidding she didn't say We did have a little conversation Are you teaching her of falsehoods?

21:46 I'd like a wolf call for my smoking hot girlfriend Heidi. She's in the process of listening to her first whole episode also shout out to Elise and Eon Garling for being loyal no agenda listeners, I must in the same breath call them out as douchebags! Douchebag! For allowing me to donate first also congratulations to Eons new human resource and Milfie fiance lastly Clippity-clop hey citizen karma blockbuster for myself to get some wait a minute a clippity-clop. Hey citizen Blockbuster Karma, all right You've got karma

22:38 Tight. All right, so that's our donors for show... What show is this anyway? 397! We're coming down to 397. We got three shows left before it showed 400. Yep That's a big deal So it's a lot of shows by the way It's a lot of show Not shows, it's just a lot of show. A lot of show. It's a lot of show man. Mind people to go to Dvorak dot org slash NA channel Dvorak dot com slash na noagendanation dot com and NoAgendaShow.com and click on the donate button if you want to help us continue this effort And I want to thank everybody for thinking about us. Dvorak dot org slash N-A

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 400 Planning, Fan-Scribed Transcripts

Plans for the upcoming 400th episode include a potential "400.5" show focused on explaining the program's mission to new listeners. The hosts mention that episode 200.5 has been "fan-scribed" and is available online as a resource. Listeners are encouraged to send in audio clips explaining why they value the show.

episode 400· transcripts· fanscription· e-book· audio clips· listener feedback

23:16 Yes, and I do have two quick PR mentions the first one is that you sent out a letter Wherein you said night we hadn't discussed it previously But then again we never talk except for during the show which is part of the beauty We apparently are going to be doing a 400 point Wow no. No no I suggested people who tell us what they think in the idea? I didn't say we're gonna Do it for sure oh now. I thought it was like a done deal We're thinking about doing it. I mean, well, I guess I wrote the letter so I was thinking about it But we you know show 200 point five which people can find somewhere to listen to Which was a design to help people understand what we're doing on the show You know, so what I wanted to say is that that episode has been fanscribed So it's at uh, you know the so it's it's been transcribed but we call it a fan scription and

24:09 Oh, it has? Yeah. And you can find... Oh that would be nice to turn into a little e-book or something like that. Well yeah, well you can find it at 200 dot 5 dot read no agenda dot com which is quite awesome! Yeah that is good so anyway the I think that just getting too two hundred point five might be getting a little tired hold on could be wrong I think this thing got screwed again John I don't know what's going on What is that noise sounds like your farting Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like. Well it's my microphone again I don't know all of a sudden that thing decided not to work anymore one two oh okay hello one two who knows? Um so I think we should-I think the idea of a 400 point five show uh possibly with there was something else there like people sending something in or... yeah somebody suggested that they uh that people send in a little audio clip as to why our show is so great

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

The Wine Down Podcast, Rothschild Family Conspiracy Mention

Producer Keith Sarloos promotes No Agenda during an appearance on "The Wine Down" podcast hosted by Sonja Magdevsky. During a discussion about Rothschild wineries in China, Sarloos references the family's link to the Federal Reserve and gives a "shang-wu" greeting. The hosts praise the organic PR and the "hit people in the mouth" formula.

the wine down· keith sarloos· rothschild family· federal reserve· sonja magdevsky· pr mention

25:04 Yeah, that would be good and we can do a whole show about how great we are. And say hey look at this! Look how great this is. We had an actual PR mention which I pulled little clip from it This is from one of our producers Keith Sarloes or Sarloos s-a-r-l-o-o-s Apparently there's some wine show the Wine Down have you heard of this podcast? No, but I don't know a lot of the podcast. Well you might want to look at it because they got some milfy chick on who's kind of cool what's the name of it again? The Wine Down. The Wine Down? The Wine Down yeah

25:44 As in wind down as in wine down. I'm winding down, but it's the wind down wind down somebody to do with wine The wine down okay and So I guess Keith I don't know if he's on the panel or it's kind of like a twit for wine Let's put it that way this is about wine yeah It's about wine you said wind Okay, it's a wine show okay then I don't know if he's on the panel regularly or how do you spell it? The wine w-i-n-e Down d o wn the wine down anyway, so get though windown.com comes up to a go daddy So I don't know man. I'm just I've got the video in the show notes You can take a look at it there But here's the audio they bring up

26:36 A new bottle of Rothschild that apparently is coming out or maturing or whatever. Something you would know much more about than I And Keith also his no agenda button flips on and it's quite hilarious. It was Matt Vance Oh, go All right, I won't say Chinese or Shashank means in the morning he speak Chinese No agenda one of the interesting things if you talk about the Rothschild family yeah If you really going to affect Google Rothschild Federal Reserve and it's

27:14 So whenever that happens, someone says do you speak Chinese? He just goes, it's a Shan Wu. I mean obviously... Exactly correct that they would be in China right now developing winery. Really? Well plus also this... You want to expound on that a little bit? Now all of the sudden i look like the conspiracy theorist What do you what do you even look like He winds it up with a promotion. That's why I want to play the whole thing. Well, Rothschild family if you go far enough back they're part of the inception of our federal banking reserve and I'm an end-to-fed kind of guy This is a wine show and then going into China and starting to open something like that is a popular relationship builder. That's what wine does, it builds relationships the more people you can get in and have a glass of wine and have long conversations about big money it's probably good idea

28:05 Do you see how I totally turned that into Leslie Day? In the morning everyone, noagendashow.com Yay! Alright There we go Yeah good work man That's how you do it Anyway so I'm on this site The way to find it for people out there trying You go to Google and type in THEWINEDOWN And it turns out to be the lip dot tv slash the dash wine dash down Which is not worth typing in And I see there's a Sonja Magdevsky Yeah thats the one She looks like a... she just looks terrific. That's one mother I'd like to f*** Right? And it looks like a show worth, definitely worth watching Yeah So we highly appreciate that PR mention That was a good one and you showed the other producers how to do it You know, you slip into little thing and can use all kind of, you speak Chinese Yes, yes, shang-wo! What?! It's in the morning We see the video they're looking at him like are you high what's wrong with you

29:04 And then he goes straight into a Rothschild thing, Federal Reserve, evil elites and then in the morning noagendershow.com Perfect! We love that And of course you can always just propagate the formula which is something like this Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Order! Hey now everybody shut up slave And thanks of course to our executive producers who came in nicely today. A lot of, of course not based on the show but based on a birthday gift but that's okay we'll take it anyway we can get it and our associate executive producers these are actual credits you can list them on your IMDB your CV your resume and if anyone has any questions whatsoever unlike the phonies in Hollywood who could never get on the phone like yeah I'm getting off the freeway right now call you back no

30:05 We will actually take the call and vouch for you do whatever is necessary. And remember we do this show twice a week on Thursday mornings and Sunday mornings, and we have no commercials it is completely listener supported a model that is working by helping us just get by. So I'm getting really tired of our president lying. Really, now i'm like really tired and I have to say interestingly enough our press corps is kind of... Now I'm just going to say the reporters because none of this makes it to the news in fact this is being covered up

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Barack Obama Supreme Court Commentary, Judicial Activism Claims

President Obama faces criticism for calling a potential Supreme Court overturn of the Affordable Care Act "unprecedented." Senator Mitch McConnell released a list of 169 instances where the court struck down federal laws to refute the President's claim. The hosts debate whether Obama, a former constitutional law professor, was intentionally misleading the public.

barack obama· supreme court· affordable care act· mitch mcconnell· commerce clause· constitution

30:49 Here's what the president said. You've probably seen this played on any number of so-called news outlets as he was in the Rose Garden with the other three leaders of the North American Union, Calderon and Harper talking about how great it is going to be when we have that Amaro and all that stuff We don't need all that stupid Canadian money or pesos or dollars And he gets a question about the Supreme Court ruling And just for those of you who don't know what's going on here in Gitmo nation proper, here in the United States of Gitmo. The Supreme Court is evaluating the constitutionality of forcing people to have health care buying that from a commercial provider

31:35 and so they've had the hearings, John and I covered that a couple weeks ago, a couple shows ago. And now everyone's kind of like waiting and when you know... So what else are gonna do? But you know muck around in guests then someone says so um yeah how would that wouldn't that really be weird Mr President if like you know the Supreme Court said hey! That's unconstitutional and here is his response in the Rose Garden Ultimately I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress. So my head whips around I'm like wait a minute first of all this was not passed by strong majorities, this thing kind of eked by so that's not true

32:29 But, but... Yeah that's a lie. But the uh this is what the Supreme Court does and and I'm like wait a minute The Supreme Court overturns stuff all the time And he's saying this it would be unprecedented? Well I have a clip of him after they overturned it He's bitching! He's backpedaling No, this is not the backpedaling one. This is his...this is the first commentary that he had to back pedal from Ah okay so it's like I just play any more set up? Yeah you run that and also has a little follow-up information about the Supreme Court they're just doing their jobs The biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint That an unelected group of people would somehow overturn Whoa!

33:15 An unelected group? Hey, hey they're just some dudes in dresses. I thought this guy was a constitutional lawyer! They're just some dudes in dresses...they're not elected! What is he playing the Libyan-Egypt card here or would he turn it around and do like a Banana Republic with his commentary? Yeah yeah totally! And passed law Well, there's a good example. He said it would be unprecedented to overturn a law passed by a majority in Congress. Judge Smith, a Reagan appointee demanded a letter from the government by noon tomorrow stating its position on the power of the courts to strike down laws Republicans in Congress pounced too The Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell circulated a list of 169 times the Supreme Court has struck down federal laws impart or completely

34:07 Now that is exactly the point that they're covering up now. Because now all the talk is about, oh this letter and he's this judge sent this letter what are we going to do about the letter? And know the letters completely unimportant What's important is the President of United States a constitutional law professor according to his resume Said that this was unprecedented. It was very clear what he said he didn't say On twice, she said it in your clip and he said it in my clip which is a different clip And let me just ask you didn't say he didn't caveat that or anything like saying well Unprecedented nobody ever does this and this guy's supposed to be a constitutional professor so really so spokeshole Carney

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Jay Carney Press Briefing, Commerce Clause Precedent Debate

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney defends President Obama's comments by narrowing the context to economic legislation under the Commerce Clause. During a heated exchange with reporters like Nora O'Donnell, Carney argues the President was referring specifically to 80 years of New Deal-era precedent. The hosts characterize the defense as elitist and condescending toward the press.

jay carney· nora o'donnell· white house press corps· commerce clause· new deal· supreme court

34:53 And I knew it was coming. And i'm so happy because the press corps is now, now they're all over it and of course none of this is seen on television you have to watch C-SPAN So the press corps says, uh sorry dude but this the Supreme Court has actually done this 159 times. It's what they do but listen to how carny it just oh the hubris of these people is unbelievable instead of him just saying hey he messed up or yeah that wasn't really you know really nice was it? He was lying to the public I just wanted to ask

35:29 Never. 80 years of precedent, you keep talking about it but Republicans are pointing to I think 159 different times in the history of America where the Supreme Court has decided that something is not unconstitutional obviously not all those times involving the Commerce Clause which is a caveat None of them in the last 85 year and thats what the President was talking about No, he wasn't. If they are citing times when the court ruled as unconstitutional something under the Commerce Clause that Congress did, they're basically saying they shouldn't have passed some of the New Deal legislation and perhaps they want to revisit that But the precedent we're talking about here, as I've made clear... You can say that they make this argument about precedent based on something the president didn't say or mean. Or we can talk about... To be clear he didn't specify what you're specifying now He did yesterday. Yesterday but in his original comments he did not draw out that caveat. He just said the whole thing would be unprecedented

36:23 That's not what he said, Ed. That's not certainly what he meant and it was clear to most folks who observe this and understand... Oh! Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, John! Most folks who-who understand this It was very clear Not like the people but just like you know the elite only those people really understand it You know that don't you Jake? Is that issue here That's not true. The president said on Monday that it would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by strong majority of the Democratic elected Congress. It took him yesterday to talk about the Commerce Clause and on economic issues. There are two instances in the past 80 years where the Supreme Court has overturned stuff US versus Lopez and US versus- Nora what I'm telling you is-

37:09 very specific legal issues. It's not evident to everybody." Well, it may not be evident to you... Oh! Shut up Nora! ...it is clear that the President was talking about matters like this that involve the Commerce Clause, that involve Congress passing legislation to deal with issues of national economic importance and national economic matters like... So, the President f'd-up and Carney just can't bring himself to say it And he says oh well it may not be clear to you Nora You're a woman, your stupid And only folks who are smart understand this. The president wasn't talking to the people, he was talking to smart people! Only smart people who get it! Don't you get it? Of course this can't be reported on the news that the President is out there lying for political benefit

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Bill Clinton Militia Act Reference, Health Care Mandate Comparison

Former President Bill Clinton attempts to defend the individual health care mandate by citing a law signed by George Washington requiring citizens to own rifles. The hosts identify this as a reference to the Militia Acts of 1792, arguing the comparison is a non-sequitur and historically inaccurate.

bill clinton· george washington· militia act of 1792· gun ownership· health care mandate

37:54 So then they just come up with this whole letter thing. Oh, let's hype the letter then that'll at least that will cover up the blatant lie and they even bring in Bill Clinton who looks like he is on death's door! Ha, that poor guy. He eats some meat my friend Really listen to what he says I believe George Washington signed a bill To require able-bodied male citizens to have a rifle in their home so if those facts are right What is this case about anyway? Are you high?! He's talking about the militia act... There is a clip of the day. He's talking about the militia... It's like a non sequitur and it says Bradley. The Militia Act of 1792, man! Come on! Clip of the Day! He's talking about the two Militia Acts of 1792 when the president said hey you got to have a gun in your house no he didn't say that this was about calling for the organization of state militias it was a whole different thing

38:56 and that's the best Clinton can come up with? To me, that was just like wow! It's also a form of a lie. Well... we know Bill Clinton lies we know that it's proven he was impeached for lying liar you're lying under oath just yeah uh just a minor thing So, you know there are some people blogging about this obviously and there's a little bit going on about hey man that's not okay. And so then all of sudden I'm thinking let me just go back and look at couple more of these big lies You remember February 9th This was the big news The settlement we've reached today thanks to work of some folks who were on this stage is the largest joint federal state settlement in our nation history is result of extraordinary cooperation

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Big Bank Foreclosure Settlement, Fannie Mae Mortgage Transfers

The $26 billion "Big Bank" foreclosure settlement announced in February is scrutinized for delays in filing official paperwork. Claims are made that banks used the two-month delay to transfer mortgages to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which are exempt from the principal reduction requirements. The hosts criticize the mainstream media for failing to investigate the loophole.

foreclosure settlement· fannie mae· freddie mac· mortgage debt· barack obama· bank settlement

39:46 Right you remember what that was about John no, I don't that was the big bank settlement 26 billion dollars they're gonna pay people back Remember all that oh yeah vaguely. Yeah and I remember I said oh well he announced the deal there was no deal There still is no deal only yesterday have papers been filed so now we're like two months later and Two months after- Well this is like the gays in the military thing that he was full of crap about. But this hasn't even, there's not even a deal yet! But I figured out what happened So they so finally you know and this is where all of the states, the governors or the attorney generals actually The state's attorney generals are getting this money Some are gonna spend it on hookers Others will give it to people whatever it is And the way its supposed to go

40:37 Roughly 1 million people were supposed to receive or was supposed to have their principal loan amounts slashed up to $100,000 and then some other poor pathetic slaves would get like two grand Remember that? Like yeah shutup. And so the banks were you know they're on the hook for this but they never work as the deal has still not been signed The papers have been filed we still have not seen the official paperwork because it's a lie But I figured out why You see, in the stipulation... I remember all this clearly because you can..I don't know which episode it was but you know go back to around February 9th and you'll find it.

41:13 The one stipulation was this would not count towards people whose mortgages were backed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. Right? That was a little gotcha! So what do you think has been happening in the two months since the president announced this great deal for everybody and now papers being filed? Well, you don't know I'll tell ya... The banks have sold all those mortgages to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac So they won't have to pay anything. Yeah, well you needed a little time to do that. Yeah! And they got it and where's our press corps on this?

41:57 You know, there was a... I don't have the clip. I had the clip but i'm saving it for some deeper research with Woodward and Bernstein were again at some event that was shown on C-SPAN and I think it was Woodward who says he went around this about the media says he went around and asked all the news editors how many editorials or articles have you written in the last couple of years that the Obama administration was upset with And the answer he says was universally none. What? Because they just follow the rules, right? Yeah they follow the rules they make sure to get into the events and don't get kicked out of the press corps that covers Washington you know it's all scam I mean i'm surprised that you're getting these clips of these irked reporters even though this stuff still not showing up in the newspaper which is a point you make. The reporter goes in there ask a good question

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Rewards for Justice, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed Bounty Controversy

The U.S. State Department issued a $10 million bounty for information leading to the conviction of Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, the alleged mastermind of the 2008 Mumbai attacks. Saeed responded with a press conference in Pakistan, mocking the U.S. for offering money for a man whose location is publicly known. State Department spokespeople clarified the reward is for "judicial evidence" rather than location.

hafiz mohammed saeed· rewards for justice· mumbai attacks· pakistan· state department· victoria nuland

42:51 Crap done by Carney. Yeah, you're an idiot and They never they won't be able to write that up because the editors won't let it fly It's not gonna happen you want a you want even better one really really funny so You remember we found that website? Rewards for justice member rewards for joyous oh yeah Okay, so um Rewards for Justice came out and just uh I mean just get the The site here for a second. Rewards for justice, here we go... They came out with the new dude 10 million bucks! For Havis Mohammed Saeed Former professor of Arabic and engineering as well as founding member of Jamaat-Udawa A radical Hadith Islamist organization dedicated to installing Islamists rule over parts of India and Pakistan

43:54 Saeed is suspected of masterminding numerous terrorist attacks including the 2008 Mumbai attacks which resulted in the deaths of 166 people. So, here it is. The Republic of India has issued us an Interpol Red Corner Notice against Saeed for his role in the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks Additionally, the United States Department of Treasury has designated Saeed as a specially designated national which is not like...an award It's not a good thing Saeed was also individually designated by the United Nations under UNSCR 1267 in December 2008. So this all of a sudden pops up and then the guy Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, he does a press conference I kid you not He does a press conference in Pakistan He says hey I'm here! I'm quoting because it was not in English...I am visible America should give that reward money to me

44:55 I'll be in Lahore tomorrow. I'll be there all week everybody America can contact me whenever it wants like what is going on here and so i tune into the State Department's Press Corps conference and Victoria is not allowed to do them this week, Victoria Newland who was my favorite because this is kind of touchy So they bring in Forget the guy's name Douchebag and he gets grilled on this and it's the truth of the matter I'm not saying the fact of the matter, but the truth of this matter

45:33 is outrageous. Let's be very clear because I've been getting questions all morning, hey if you know where he is why issue this reward? Just to clarify the 10 million dollars is for information that not about his location but information that leads to an arrest or conviction And this is information that could withstand judicial scrutiny. So I think what's important here is we're not seeking this guy's location We all know where he is so, you know they could drone him ten million dollars It's not for where we know where he is What does the family?

46:08 million dollars about that. Of our money, by the way. You know every journalist in Pakistan and in the region knows how to find him but we're looking for information that can be usable to convict him at a court of law. If he's already been indicted as Toria said yesterday if he's already been indicted presumably the prosecutors have information otherwise you wouldn't have been indicted. He's indicted with the US or anywhere. Well again, I think what they're trying to... Didn't edit that by the way! This is the guy! Get information

46:44 that can be used to put this gentleman behind bars. There is no information right now that could... There's information, there's intelligence you know it's not necessarily usable in a court of law so the reporter is now laughing really? Really! He actually did a really on him which I liked that really? Not..there isn't any information out there that could be used to prosecute him. I think that the Rewards for Justice announcement speaks for itself and so far as saying they're looking evidence that can be used against him, that implicates him. Victoria had said yesterday or the day before as well that the Pakistanis were aware of this and yet we've got a statement today from the foreign minister saying that the US must provide concrete evidence if it wants Islamabad to act against it so it would seem like there's some confusion on the part of the Pakistani government. So okay, let me just recap what we've heard so far...so there is no judicial evidence We know where the guy is

47:42 We're looking for information that can convict him of the Mumbai attacks, of which by the way a certain David Headley has already been convicted. being the mastermind of that. The guys in Pakistan, Pakistan is saying you know if you got it You can't touch our Pakistani nationals if you want the guy you got to come up with some real information But India as even our spokeshole says India has issued an Interpol red corner notice India wants the guy and we clearly have to suck up To India for some reason now let me just Roll this back a few, here we go. Thank you!

48:39 This guy is good. I don't know who he is, they never cut to him. You gotta find out who this...I've heard this guy before He's good! I mean you could put anyone's face up there Well that's essentially what is happening here! Yeah, well here comes the final wind up. New guy said there must be something you got something on the guy don't you? Yeah there is a... But it can't speak to... but it can't be used in court correct that means that there's not any

49:17 i don't get what what kind of information on top of that it's based on intelligence and are used for not dot now is a great anybody can always secret intelligence talk about in detail into the house and then you did he was arrested and he testified in court in a plea bargain deal on the mumbai attacks uh... evidence if the evidence isn't sufficient, then what about the testimony he gave testifying that he was trained by Lashkar-e-Taiba to carry out the Mumbai attacks? Is that evidence not usable because it was then used to convict someone? Val! Good question. You know what I'm not conversant on the evidence that he gave in that case so you know i'd have to refer you to uh... you know to the relevant law enforcement agencies as well as to the lawyers but just don't know yeah

50:04 Well, round of applause for the press corps at the State Department. Good job! Of course you won't see that on your news, which is I presume one of the reasons. No you have to look at these press conferences to get the news! Well that's what we do! That's what we do! These guys are supposed to do these conferences and then someone is supposed to write it up and present it to the public so they don't have too kind of thing... We ask questions of these idiots so you don't have to And it never gets reported doesn't end up in a paper In this case I thought was actually highly entertaining Yeah, that was entertaining. Actually the State Department events tend to be more entertaining than the sheepish press corps for the White House. They're like all afraid they're going to get kicked out of court. Kicked out? Yeah! Because if you ask a wrong question, you don't get invited back I mean this is the basic corruption of the media

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Media Corruption, White House Press Corps Access

The hosts discuss the institutionalized corruption of the Washington press corps, where reporters must ask "softball" questions to maintain access. They argue that independent, listener-supported models are the only way to bypass the vetting and blackballing practiced by the administration.

media corruption· white house press corps· blackballing· c-span· independent media

50:58 and it's essentially institutionalized. If I got a pass to go to the, ask the president questions at one of these press conferences, I have to be specially vetted. I'm vetted, I go to the thing and I asked him softball question might get invited back if I asked a really tough question and then demand follow up because he doesn't ask? You're off the list! I'm done! Uh-huh. I better do a really good job Yeah you're off the list At one time cause I am out of there Yeah, that's the way it works and that's what everyone complains about. Well this is why we are still in business because we are able to bring this stuff because people support the show and I sit on my increasingly flabby ass watching C-SPAN reading legislation and looking at what's really going on and its a sad state of affairs but eventually... Well were not gonna be invited to the White House press corps anytime soon Or any of the cool parties

51:55 No. Right, no we're... you get blackballed I mentioned in the opening- In fact there could be more shows like ours out there There are a few! There's a couple out there It's definitely- it's a growth market Yeah it's a growth market because once somebody gets black ball from one of these scenes they have no other choice The problem is that no one has figured out that the only way to do it is with the audience Which is what we do. Look at knowagenthenewsnetwork.com if you've never seen that, that is... Well that's because we're both actually trained in this environment This is true

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Arizona House Bill 2549, Digital Harassment Legislation

Arizona House Bill 2549 seeks to amend stalking and harassment laws to include any "electronic or digital device." The legislation criminalizes using profane language with the intent to "annoy or offend," which the hosts argue could make most internet commentary illegal in the state. The bill classifies certain digital stalking as a Class 1 misdemeanor or a felony.

arizona· jan brewer· hb 2549· digital harassment· free speech· misdemeanor

52:31 It's our house train some poor schlub who has been in the media his whole life, you know working for a newspaper under some mean editor. Yeah They're clueless So they can't you know? They don't they can't make the jump so did you um A number of people asked me to look into this and I'd seen it but I was like whatever You know This is what this is what's also good about the show as people will just hound you Like dude, you've got to look at this. You gotta look at this so this uh This that's literally what dude dude hey Dude, you gotta look at this the arizona house bill two five four niner. You know what? This is about I don't know What it's about okay So the legend i-it's in the show notes three seven three seven three nine. What is it? What's the bill number? Uh 2 5 4 9

53:16 And you will find it in the show notes marked up for your convenience at 397.nashownotes.com This is a change of the Arizona... Here it is, amending sections 13-2916 and 13-2923 Arizona revised statutes relating to electronic or digital devices Oh this is that... Harassment law Yeah I know this law This is..I need to write about this It's so funny So let me uh If you look at the actual bill, it's actually like a red line copy which is kind of cool. Because previously it would say... It is unlawful for this I'm reading from section 132916A. It is unlawful for any person with intent by the way

54:03 Words matter. Intent to terrify, intimidate, threaten harass annoy or offend to use a telephone and that is crossed out and changed to any electronic or digital device and use any obscene, lewd or profane language or suggest any lewd or lascivious act... ...or threaten to inflict physical harm on the person or property of the person. It is also unlawful otherwise disturb by repeated anonymous and telephone calls as crossed out electronic or digital communications like email or comments The peace quiet or right of privacy of any person at the place where the telephone call scratched out communications were received

54:48 Any person who violates this section is guilty of a class 1 misdemeanor. Class one misdemeanor is punishable by 12 months in jail and two and half thousand dollars in fines or both So the things that are, uh... And you should write a column about this The things that are a little disturbing is words like intent So even if you didn't, you know... Even if someone can prove intent to annoy or offend harass I mean that is basically what the internet is. The whole thing is meant to annoy and harass and offend Yeah exactly And this reminds me of these boneheads who come into the game late and then they say You can't use a hyperlink

55:41 You know, it links to my site. I don't want that! That's lame What are you doing on the internet if you don't wanna be hyperlinked? This is like these idiots in Belgium who were running this newspaper organization and they got sick of Google taking their clips They have a... you search for something, Google shows up Robots.txt by the way will stop this immediately so people can do it on their own. They wanted the promotion but they didn't want Google like stealing them. They didn't want Google scanning them, which by the way like I said they were idiots because they didn't know you could use robot.txt and then stopped in a drop of a hat but no they made a big stink about it so google blackballed him and they won't link to him under any circumstances and six months later these guys come begging googled us! You won't link me! We're going broke

56:34 Now, of course the pundits are out there. Ah you know this is a... It's very obvious what this is about Yeah but words matter that's the way I see it you know? I mean this show will be if this has passed by Jan Brewer If she puts her signature under it This program is by definition illegal in Arizona Because we use obscene lewd and profane language Lewd and lascivious acts I have definitely threatened to inflict physical harm to persons and property. And i'm very well you're annoying and you offend! That's four. I haven't heard you uh threaten violence? No, I've definitely said I will shoot you to TSA people. Jokingly yeah. Well no... do I have intent? I've got weapons

57:34 Yeah, I think you could prove intent. So what happens to out-of-state people? Do they really think that this is all taking place within the confines of Arizona or are they going to put an extradition order out for every citizen in the country that they track down and in a chat room who says you suck You suck douchebag. Oh no, by the way douche bag we have I wonder if we do like 14 douche bag call outs in one show is that then fourteen counts? Do we then get fourteen years in the slammer in Arizona? $2500 per count I would guess Yeah and twelve months in jail

58:13 Anyway, it winds up here. By the way you know that program Girls Nearby or whatever it was called? The app you mean yeah well the app yeah according to this story it's a class C felony under this law for stalking and intimidation after 25 years in jail so if you go rolling up to someone using that app hey babe nice top Is that how you do it John? Let me just write that down. Hey, I have a nice column on this and I have the whole procedure that you should use if you're gonna use this app and what will work in what won't work That was an example something that won't work or gets you slapped if you want to get slapped

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Nuclear Powered Drones, Boeing Phantom Eye Development

Reports from The Guardian and Wired suggest the U.S. is researching nuclear-powered drones capable of staying airborne for months. The discussion compares these conceptual designs to the hydrogen-powered Boeing Phantom Eye and the MQ-9 Reaper. The hosts speculate on the safety and weight of small nuclear reactors for aviation and residential use.

nuclear drones· boeing· phantom eye· northrop grumman· sandia national laboratories· mq-9 reaper

59:01 So that was one of the many stories, and I thank you very much everybody for hounding me on that because once i saw the bill which is what I do. I enjoy this so much! I enjoy reading legislation it you know? You can wake me up at 7am and say hey man I got a new bill for ya! And I'm like cool! It's like Christmas in April Another thing that came in...and this I'm sure you received a lot of this was tweeted everywhere and I have a serious question about this maybe Atomic Rod can help us out And I have my doubts about it. So actually there's two stories, one is United States draws up plans for nuclear drones so they're talking about a new generation of nuclear-powered drones capable of flying over remote regions of the world from months on end without refueling and along with that comes Boeing is very close now to developing its hydrogen powered Phantom Eye unmanned drone

1:00:00 which will also effectively do the same. So if this is possible, if you can have nuclear energy a reactor small enough to be in a drone Why don't I have that in my backyard? Why are why do we have it in the car? Why don't we have an airplanes already so either this is a total bullcrap story and anything that comes from wired. I'm pretty much sure it is or Hallelujah, how awesome is that? It'd be great you never had gas ever yeah Get me one of those. I'll put up with right at the back yard oh

1:00:38 One load of fuel would last, I think that...I don't know what the... Months! No. I think it lasts...which by the way is the bogus part. I suppose if you made it small enough it might only last months but this should last years. But seriously just no... Talk to Rod about it Well yeah I know he's listening but just thinking about I do know something about aviation. You're going to need a power plant in these things and let's just say we have a drone the size of a Cessna, that thing gulps 16 gallons an hour of fuel it has you know the engine is 300 plus horsepower That's some serious stuff you're talking about! Just give me a three hundred horsepower generator how many KVAs can we get out of that? You can power our house with that and it makes no noise

1:01:25 This is beautiful! And apparently it's safe enough to fly over the whole world, so you know... nothing- no one's concerned about that. I think this story is bogus Let me just see who I think was a wired story. Let me just double it was everywhere, but usually dangerous things they float into the into the everyone catches Guardian all that you know not all the old-timers are still pretty competent But these new These new writers that come out of J school who never took science and then the next thing you know they're writing about its They get completely they can completely suckered by these PR companies or whoever's trying to get this stuff to Get into print. Well, so this is from the Guardian according to summary of the research published by the Federation of American scientists computer-based productions were used to test the concepts based on requirements and direction provided by Nothrop Grumman

1:02:22 Sandia performed focus studies to translate stated needs into conceptual designs and processes that could be transferred easily from Sandia to industry design and production personnel. So it's been studied, and science is in, and it's good to go! Yeah well maybe on paper? Well I'm very very excited because get me one of these...I'm not afraid about really not afraid of it Especially if it can fly over in the skies, this is great. Here... The potential impact of nuclear-powered drones can be gauged by comparing them with existing aircraft such as the MQ9 Reaper Of which by the way another one just crashed into Seychelles yesterday

1:03:08 It careened off of the, uh... on landing. Careened off the runway into the ocean. It literally careened! That's a good word. It careened. It touched down on the runway and bounced a few times before ending in the sea at the extreme southern end of the runway. You're coming in too hot! Yes that is exactly what it did. It came in to hot, bounced around called porpoising And it couldn't stop. They should have done a go around, but you know there's bunch of idiots flying these things I guess Anyway the MQ-9 Reaper which is used extensively in Afghanistan Pakistan and operations against insurgents The Reaper presently carries nearly two tons of fuel In addition to a similar weight of munitions ie hellfires and other equipment and can stay airborne for 42 hours

1:03:59 So... Using nuclear power would enable the Reaper not only to remain airborne for far longer, but to carry more missiles and surveillance equipment and dispense with a need for ground crews. We can infer from that comment that the nuke-the reactor Weighs less because it was going to carry more munitions. Weighs less than two tons? Yes, correct So and two times would be four thousand pounds approximately so the thing has to weigh could be three thousand pounds maybe? The size of a small car besides a small compact car Yeah I think less! So i can park that in my garage and have that as a power plant I'm all for it

1:04:40 Anyway, so nuclear Rod Adams listens to the show he works in the Navy and he was on a nuclear submarine for most of his life. They have small piles here and there around campuses I think Berkeley, University of California at Berkeley has a small nuclear reactor in one of the buildings. Even though Berkeley is a nuke-free zone with signage all over it when you drive into Berkeley. Welcome to Berkeley! Nuke free kind of thing but meanwhile Cal's got one right there on the campus. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that. Very famous little... It's one of the oldest reactors in California. They use it for jacking up making isotopes and stuff.

1:05:23 I'm interested. I'm very interested in a nuke in my backyard, I'm not afraid...I'm really not! Just seems like perfect and if we're gonna be flying them around hand one over to me Where can I where can I get one? It has to be it can't be a million times more expensive. I mean they can't like no one nowhere Does it say oh well you know, it's gonna be so expensive The drones are supposed to be cheaper think that technology by now Would be cheaper. No, I mean, it's just the cost of the fuel which is down has been depressed because of Fukushima Yeah, yeah, because everyone's always give us bad And I think it would be, yeah a little thing in the... if it was the size of let's say a smart car. What is the smart car weigh? Oh there's nothing! I've had one. Had a smart car. They're what two twenty five hundred pounds maybe? Maybe so it's made out of plastic Well anyway to be well let's assume it was made out steel probably but that'd be that's the size I'm imagining the device to be The size of a smart car really you think even

1:06:24 And then I would, you know... 730 kilos. 1609 pounds Okay so and if it was made out of steel and lead which you'd have to be if it was a power plant Yeah It would probably weigh close to 4,000 pounds and come up with some wheels and you could push it over where you want it then lock it down so the tornado doesn't pick it up Yeah and if you don't like it then you push the thing down the hill get rid of it? Yeah or take into the garbage Right into Lake Travis Perfect. Perfect! Anyway, that was just my little thought I like it and i think it was very good idea so back to uh by the way she gonna sign this thing she's nuts but people you can do this at home you know what here's what I'm noticing

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Source Verification, Circular Reporting in Tech Media

A brief discussion on the decline of journalistic standards highlights how modern news sites often link to each other in a circular fashion without reaching the original source. The hosts encourage listeners to find original research papers and legislative text rather than relying on interpretations from tech blogs like Wired.

wired· ap· reuters· circular reporting· journalism· fact checking

1:07:12 Also, notice on no agenda news network which is a little irritating But I don't mind the clicking so people will find something unlike activist post calm or something else and you know down at the bottom of the story it says source here and they click there And then that stories own those source here. And finally you trace it back to the original source the you know Which is usually in many cases actually like an AP or Reuters And from there, you know when you see like these scientists said that go look at the research. Go download the paper now You've got to do a little more than just like read wired

1:07:48 Well, worse than that is that you're getting... it's almost like we tell the joke to one person after another. I have seen these stories because i was working on one the other day where this-I found the story and sounded pretty exciting but there was referencing something else so went back to then it was referencing something else now when he went back to their original one that said story with was bogus! Yeah It was like wait a minute that's not what they're saying why are you interpreting it this way? You gotta be careful But yeah, so you can do this. I mean and reporters could do this and the news could do this... That's time consuming No one seems to really care You know one thing we didn't just talking about not caring We seem to have just completely given up or we didn't follow the M-80 bomber story at all What was the m80 bombers? This is a guy that was caught by TSA Oh when he had homemade bombs in his butt He didn't have any homemade bombs! He had some firecrackers Right

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

TSA M-80 Arrest, Joseph Piccolo Philadelphia Incident

Joseph Piccolo was detained at Philadelphia International Airport after TSA agents found M-80 firecrackers and flash powder in his backpack. While authorities treated the incident as a potential bombing attempt, the hosts suggest the suspect was likely a forgetful individual rather than a terrorist.

tsa· joseph piccolo· m-80· philadelphia international airport· explosives· flash powder

1:08:44 The hearing for a man accused of trying to bring explosives onto a plane headed to San Francisco was delayed today. 29-year old Joseph Piccolo was detained in Philadelphia yesterday after airport screeners found M80's and a bottle filled with flash powder inside his backpack. Piccolo told authorities he left the explosives in his backpack by accident, He is due back in federal court on Tuesday First of all, the guy looks like a stoner who would forget. Yeah, oh dude, aw crap! Oh man... I forgot the cracker And he had some flash powder which is-I don't know what he's gonna use that for He maybe is a photographer? I have no idea Poor magician But in the M80s you get a couple M80s which was just big firecrackers They're nasty but this is what's it What is the point? So now this guy has screwed for life

1:09:33 Yeah, I know he's going away but there buddy be sure that the DHS and the TSA are gonna be bragging about how they stopped a Mad bomber. Yeah Finally they got one yeah, they got one. He's a stoner we got him We've got this donor anyway. I don't know we never picked it up by no No, you did actually you just don't remember oh, I can't I'm over 60 Wait a minute Yes, it isn't don't be alarmed. We're here on official business and but we're forgetful So at the end of the last show we had a nice little chat about this

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

DSM-5 Mental Health Manual, Einstein Syndrome in Children

The upcoming release of the DSM-5 is criticized for expanding mental health diagnoses to benefit the pharmaceutical industry. A listener's story about a late-talking child introduces "Einstein Syndrome," a term coined by Thomas Sowell for bright children who experience speech delays. The hosts warn against the over-prescription of drugs for children who may simply be developing differently.

dsm-5· autism· einstein syndrome· big pharma· speech therapy· thomas sowell

1:10:16 The change in the DSM, that's the manual for a mental disease. Whichever which the pharmaceutical industry uses to pay doctors to push crap on you that you don't really need that will make you wacky. Wiggy! Make you wig out there is new term wig out remember that one John? Yeah man he wigged out. He was wigging out! He was wiggin' out man That was good term we need to bring it back. Wiggin' Out Oh, you know we were sitting with one of our neighbors having some drinks the other day. They're older than you and she used a term she said no shit Sherlock I'm like wow that's another one. That's an old classic. Haven't heard that in a long time either but we're talking about so this DSM 5 which is coming there's great 1 hour YouTube video you'll find it at the show notes 397.nashownotes.com under video about the DSM

1:11:13 And how everyone knows it's not based on science or anything, it's just bullcrap. I think we're listed in as if you're a conspiracy theorist and you should be taken Zoloft or whatever there is something in there for us And so our conversation struck a chord. I got a lot of emails, as I hoped I would actually from parents who listen to the show and it's very hopeful stuff is very positive so can i share one of them with you that I got from Will or producers Adam John enjoy the show thank you just want to send a note in regards to autism how quickly doctors and other specialists love to jump on diagnosing it and prescribing drugs

1:11:51 My son started talking, quote early at around eight to nine months simple words like dada and milk but then suddenly stopped at around 12 months. Instead he would point and grunt or make other sounds clicking his tongue meant truck for instance as what you think will doctors were quick to jump on something being wrong with him and prescribe him meds and treatment but I knew he was okay He was just doing his own thing we did get a speech therapist But that did little more than frustrate and piss him off I know many... I like a little pissed off kid. Yeah, 12 month pissed off 12 month old. I know many parents get scared and want to do the right thing so they listen to these idiots and drug their kids that would be better of doing their own research we did! We found out that rather than autism these late talking kids are often described as having Einstein syndrome

1:12:40 Have you ever heard of this? Oh yeah, Einstein I think when we went to... Five! He was five until he started talking. ...five before he said a word and the first thing they said is well what why did it take you so long to say something he said eh I had nothing to say. Nothing to say exactly So, we found out he had Einstein syndrome as he was a famous late talker himself. There have been many geniuses that had only started talking after three or four years of age the developing mind can only do so much as it is growing rather than the speech portion of the brain developing first another area is taking over instead when my son was a little over three years old he suddenly started talking again just if someone flipped the switch

1:13:24 The amazing thing is his speech was normal, speaking in age-appropriate sentences. He's now four and a half well ahead of his peers People often comment he sounds like a six year old! He reads and writes does simple math counts to 1000 if you'd let him You can even read large numbers in the hundreds of thousands or millions By the way not having a TV aka what we call the brain sucking machine in the house probably helps too So I just thought it was a really nice story And because I had...I was not familiar with the Einstein syndrome It's in the book of knowledge uh... term thomas so will use described exceptionally bright people experience a delay in development of speech the names and i think you drug them so they're never going to build their brain at all that it's when they get older exactly exactly well well i found me out i've found a very unusual love big pharma uh... new market pain now i've ran into an ad

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Trifexis Pet Medication, Veterinary Industry Consolidation

A television advertisement for Trifexis, a monthly parasite preventative for dogs, is analyzed for using the same fear-based marketing tactics as human pharmaceuticals. The hosts discuss the rise of corporate veterinary chains and how pet insurance has contributed to the skyrocketing costs of basic animal healthcare.

trifexis· big pharma· veterinary medicine· pet insurance· elanco· parasites

1:14:24 It's the, uh... let's see what ad. New angle? It must be- What? Oh new angle on TB Drug Ad. Or new usages. So let me set this up Which one is it? Is it a new angle or new usages? New angle Okay Uh so lemme set this- The ad has a dog! Oh I've seen this! Yeah I've seen this one Running through a bunch of pipes Clear pipes because they don't want the dog to get out into the open because he might catch something. And it's a drug ad in this same format, that money-making format and I heard of guy who did one of the first ads for the drug companies that resulted in these huge sales upticks because people are like oh my god... They advertise and they go back you know ask for their dogs but they've decided just let's go to the real money People's animals play there

1:15:15 There's an easier way to protect your dog from dangerous parasites. Trifexis is the monthly beef flavored tablet that prevents heartworm disease, kills fleas and prevents infestations and treats hook round and whip worm infections Treatment with fewer than three monthly doses after exposure to mosquitoes may not provide complete heartworm prevention. The most common adverse reactions were vomiting, itching and lethargy. Serious adverse reactions have been reported following concomitant extra labial use of ivermectin with spinosad alone one of the components of trifexis prior to administration dogs should be tested for existing heart worm infection

1:15:58 To learn more about Trifexas, talk to your veterinarian. Call 888-545-5973 or visit trifexas dot com You don't have to go to extremes to protect your dog from parasites you need Trifexas Visit our website to save up to $20 Available by prescription from your veterinarian Anal leakage may occur in some breeds So I just said wow this is a good one It's the same formula Did you hear the wolf howl in there? Yeah They use my sound effect here listen to it again. It's like seven three visit Trifexas calm Same wolf is a beagle so this proves our point that

1:16:44 that the disclaim because they don't have there's no I'm sure there's no law than you got to disclaim all these drugs for the doggy. Yeah, he might get depressed. It's a dog please so it just proves people respond to that Oh yeah sounds good. Yeah oh my powerful if you need all those protections and my daughter now let's talk to your vet you know is not ask your doctor this is right for you talk to your veterinarian even like three years or more When no really corrupt in this show, but in terms of like basically selling out to big pharma for a piece of the action. Oh Yeah well there goes the audience Thanks John I'm just all those hot chicks who became veterinarians now just switched off the show meow we're done We're done. I tell you right know the veteran because especially there's nobody talking about that since I've already lost them and

1:17:33 There's been a huge increase in these vet chains and people who have pets know about this. You used to have the local veterinarian, he was a local guy and there'd be you know dog and cat side of the building and it wasn't part major chain. Now there's these chains of vets, very much like Walmarts of veterinarians and you can look this up and they're huge. They get there all over the place and they essentially gouge you. Yeah well it's because people now are buying insurance for their pets Which proves how the insurance thing rips you off. Because once the insurance companies got in there, and people were like I might as well pay 100-200 bucks a month to insure my pet Now if you don't have insurance for your pet You go in and oh this shot is 400 bucks What? Yeah It's crazy! It's unbelievable Nah it's a big scam Well let's stay on this for a second then because remember we were tracking tuberculosis

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Tuberculosis Health Scare, Lorain High School Testing

A student at Lorain High School in Ohio was diagnosed with tuberculosis, prompting mass testing for students and staff. The hosts highlight the specific language used by news reporters, noting that "access to testing" is framed as a privilege to encourage compliance.

tuberculosis· lorain high school· ohio· vaccine· health scare· testing

1:18:31 The first of many reports, TB which we know there's a man-made version now out there by their own admission. Tuberculosis, oh it's going to kill everybody. Well we've got to have a vaccine now. We've got an experimental vaccine. Oh tuberculosis! Tuberculosis! Well let's start the fear mongering. A health scare at our local school. A student at Lorain High School has tuberculosis so today students and teachers are going to have access to tuberculosis testing Now the school notified parents with a letter on Friday And a recorded message that the county tuberculosis clinic says that the testing will be available starting today You see the number right there on your screen? It is 440... Right

1:19:07 Testing, test for tuberculosis. This is in Ohio and what you notice the usages of the reporter they're good there is some sort of a privilege they're going to have access access to testing very yeah I'm glad you caught that What are they conveying when they say that? Is those some privilege like a special deal for these people and oh if you get access to testing you'll get you get yet to be tested well if you're not A good slave? Well if you're not a good slave, you don't get access to the test. I've been listening to usages and that's what this other clip is, this new usages clip You might want to rerun it after i give you... This is about BART in the Bay Area. I want you to spot the usage This will be kind of a test an ask Adam See when the guy uses his new usage

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

BART Vinyl Seat Conversion, Public Relations Language

The Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) system is replacing wool seats with vinyl to improve sanitation following reports of bedbugs and filth. The hosts focus on a transit official's odd use of the word "campaigning" to describe the rollout of the new seats, suggesting it reflects scripted corporate PR language.

bart· san francisco· vinyl seats· public relations· campaigning· transit

1:19:56 It's like a boring clip about how they're changing the seats on the BART trains from wool, they always have wool covered seats to some sort of cheap vinyl. Because everyone's there was a bunch of reports. It was all set up as a brainwashing trick They've set up the bunch of tests Oh, there's lice in these seats and it just started months ago about how this dirty old wool seats and Bart were you know? Crawling with bugs well it'll be a refreshing change for a lot of Bay Area backsides one of the biggest and longest-standing complaints for BART passengers is

1:20:31 is gradually being replaced. Kit Do shows us why your next ride could be a whole lot softer and a lot more sanitary There's an unusual smell on this bar train the smell of brand new vinyl seats This one is the first of 100 cars to get them And Sean Steele makes sure the installation goes smoothly You look like a proud father Oh yes, I am Proud that we're actually introducing or campaigning these seat for our passengers campaigning? What is that supposed to mean?! I don't know. And he stopped himself, he says we're...

1:21:10 You know, if you play that little part at the end again because he says he stops himself and changes the word to campaigning as if he was told to do that. I am proud we're actually introducing or campaigning these seats for our passengers. Ah! I guess something hasn't been approved somewhere? No first he's introducing then he changed the word to campaigning We are campaigning this seats I don't know. I was just taken aback by this and have yet to figure out, obviously he was told to say this by somebody above him for some reason but who and where in the spectrum of craziness and propaganda public relations decided to use the word campaigning in a public way like this? It sounds like boardroom speak kind of crazy Silicon Valley bull crap

1:22:05 Well, I'm looking now on the book of knowledge. We're campaigning the seats! Yeah, I'm trying to find out ladies and gentlemen you knew Bartzi... So maybe campaigning means? Well it means what it means which is they're just a public- You know he's on- It's PR yeah, it's PR. We're campaigning but maybe screwed up and shouldn't have said that. But almost sounded as though he meant to say because he'd stopped himself. Yeah well I'm just mulling over this see if I can find anything I think... Of course the reporters standing there hearing this and every... No, wouldn't say anything. I think um oh here as it outfits another hundred cars with a vinyl seats for total of 200 made-over cars Bart plans to give together rider feedback on the conversion through on car surveys as well as through Twitter and Facebook and by phone

1:22:57 Hey, hello. This is the Bart guy. How's your ass? My ass is great man Thank you very much I don't want wool seats being nasty people spilling stuff on it and be all sticky gum You know that had gone since this I don't know when Barney started I think this I think they've been 40 50 years of wool seats And now all of a sudden they're changing the vinyl. I mean technically if you want to have You know, a comfy seat. You want some sort of cloth but this cloth is no good and if you want something that lasts a long time just make it solid plastic seat like they do in the New York subways. Yeah. And then hose it down I don't know what they're up to. Hose it down? Yea there ya go

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Kony 2012 Part 2, Invisible Children Viral Marketing

Invisible Children released a sequel to the viral "Kony 2012" documentary, titled "Beyond Famous." The hosts note the low initial view counts compared to the first film and point out the inclusion of a clip featuring Alex Jones. They suggest the organization uses "bots" to manipulate viral metrics on YouTube.

kony 2012· invisible children· joseph kony· alex jones· viral video· youtube

1:23:42 Eh, Kony's back. Just mentioned that. Yeah I saw that they're gonna do a second movie! Yeah it's out now it came out Oh it is? Yep Well that was quick! Kony 2012 Part 2 Beyond Famous Yeah, it's about 20 minutes. It's about 19-20 minutes and of course being heavily promoted all on all the news networks The first one went so incredibly viral! Let's check it out and see how this one is doing let me go to their web page here for a second Conan 2012 Oh 302 views I guess they didn't They didn't turn the bots on. No, let me see well the bots will go on in a second Let me see...let me just make sure I've got the right page. Just want to be absolutely sure here don't wanna... Let's see... Go to YouTube and get your- I am on YouTube. I'm on YouTube right now 302 views that's all they got

1:24:30 The intro is pretty funny. Critics say the film manipulates the facts. Simplifying this story again. Oversimplifying a wildly complex issue. The message is too late. Joseph Kony and his forces... Here's my favorite part, listen to this. ...pro-war activism. Utterly naive to think that they actually put Alex Jones in there. They're so brazen! They put Alex Jones in who sang pro war activism

1:25:13 Which can be interpreted either way. That's the whole point, they're using him to promote his message These white westerners sort of getting on a bandwagon and actually they haven't got a clue what they are talking about A CLUE? Anyway 302 views! Turn on the bots people Yeah get your numbers up I mean it's been on... Get your bogus numbers up It has been on CNN all morning All morning Really and then you get 302 views? 302 views so much for the v- and yeah They're all we can't wait for this one to go viral. Yeah Really? So I think if you want to talk about publicity stunts, yeah, what Oh what she got

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Donald Trump Transgender Pageant Decision, Jenna Talackova Case

Donald Trump, owner of the Miss Universe organization, overturned a decision to disqualify Jenna Talackova from the Miss Universe Canada pageant for being transgender. The hosts discuss the publicity benefits for the pageant and Trump's requirement that Canada recognize her gender as female.

donald trump· miss universe canada· jenna talackova· transgender· gloria allred· beauty pageant

1:25:51 Donald Trump. Yeah, you know they think well what are we gonna do about our ratings in Canada for the Miss Canada thing? I don't know what can we do that would get everyone to watch? Here's an idea Donald Trump has had a change of heart about a transgendered beauty contestant entering the Miss Universe contest two weeks ago pageant organizers forced Jenna Telekova out of the Miss Universe Canada contest after discovering that she was once a boy. The Miss Universe competition requires each contestant to be born as a woman I am a woman, i was devastated and I felt that excluding me for the reason they gave was unjust

1:26:37 Wow. But now pageant owner Donald Trump is overturning that decision he says Telekova can enter as long as Canada recognizes her gender as a woman yeah as a good one i thought it was genius yes very smart and the group in the woman to question her the uh... the the female love talking head down on cbs say while because while is girl is quite pretty and she has a nice is very pretty and of course got glory all read their own remedial aid to get some publicity you know if you know i thought that was a total douche bag but she actually

1:27:16 She, you know that she was raped and then that's how she got started with suing for. Oh yeah I didn't know that either and I always thought she was a total douche knuckle And then i really heard her entire story and just you know she started...she represented in the Roe v Wade You know like it or not I mean she is serious A serious lawyer and uh That's yes she wanted to have an abortion She had to have an illegal abortion after she got raped So I'm a little hesitant. Oh my god, this chick's got great legs! You're looking her up? Yeah of course But she got big feet that's the problem Big feet but she has kind of big hands Man-hands Well not really She is one of those examples you know this idea of a chimera Chimera Chimera...chimera...I don't care Advertising

1:28:14 It is really apparent with her it seems to me because she Really doesn't have any male characteristics facially or a lot of other aspects of her I don't think she'll even come in the final ten. There's a lot prettier girls out there. It's gonna draw attention that they're going to have good ratings. Duh! And I don't think she's gonna come, no she's not gonna pull it off but But you know Trump might try to fix it because if she could get into the Miss Universe contest, the big one which has the big audience. He would pump the numbers

1:28:51 So this could be rigged. She could be rigged on the fast track to get, to win and the Canadians have had to put up with this you know a guy wins best looking woman in Canada is a male I mean it's somewhat culturally insensitive but she's good-looking woman and yeah I'd do her Canadians... The Canadians uh you know they can live with it they're pretty low key We haven't been getting very few donations from Canada. Yeah, what's going on with that? Maybe this will help! Maybe we can ride on Donald Trump's coattails. Yeah might work. We can ride it out. Another piece of legislation I read for y'all... Some people have noticed this actually saw a posting on Dvorak dot org slash blog the this is House Resolution 3523

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act, CISPA Legislation

House Resolution 3523, the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA), is analyzed as a measure to allow private cybersecurity providers to share user data with the federal government. The bill provides legal immunity to companies that disclose information, which the hosts argue facilitates government snooping without the public outcry seen with SOPA.

cispa· hr 3523· cybersecurity· ndaa· data sharing· privacy

1:29:48 which has a short title you may cite it as the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act of 2011. And I think people are incorrectly saying this is the next SOPA PIPA, it's not! It is actually horrible piece of legislation but it is not that. And I recognize this legislation because we've seen this in something else, i just can't remember what because this is the same...I think maybe it was in the NDAA actually where we saw this initially where you'll have certified cyber security providers in the private sector and if you read this bill which of course is in the show notes 397.NAShowNotes.com marked up for your convenience

1:30:38 It has some definitions here. Well for one thing this bill reminds me of the other thing in Arizona because it also... Well not really, it doesn't really because this is about sharing what they're saying is if you are a cybersecurity provider in the private sector now this could be an ISP that this could be McAfee AVG, it could be any virus protection company. It could be any number of things right? Then you are indemnified I'm sure this was in the NDAA You are indemnified from sharing this information with the federal government

1:31:28 And the only thing the federal government can't do with the information or you as a cybersecurity provider is use it for competitive advantage. So basically, it's encouraging everyone to snoop on you and then hand that over to the government. If shared with the federal government, you are then exempt from disclosure under section 552 of Title 5 United States Code Which I looked up as well. Now this is kind of stuff you might want to do on your own just to look into it But it's really not anything other than more Closing down clamping down snooping On our stuff and giving little brown shirt Nazis the right to do it So, I'm not quite sure where people are white people are calling it You know the follow-on to to SOPA but there's nothing in here about

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

United Kingdom Internet Surveillance, US Postal Service Attacks

The UK government is moving to require ISPs and telecommunications companies to track all citizen activity in real-time. The hosts speculate that the ongoing political and financial attacks on the U.S. Postal Service may be intended to eliminate the last form of communication protected by strong privacy laws.

united kingdom· isp· surveillance· usps· privacy· data tracking

1:32:30 This is well. No, this is more like something you'd have in Cuba or the United Kingdom I saw you at the latest United Kingdom thing I saw you guys on Twitter do that thing about April Fool's jokes and Leo said hey Is this an April Fools joke it was like no? It's actually true Yeah He falls for the April Fools Jokes that are jokes And then he sees something like this is like too ridiculous to be real and it turns out This is already much explain what it is to people who don't know right so What it is now, is all ISPs Everybody in the internet infrastructure along with cell phones you name. It now by law Is tracking what you're doing in the United Kingdom? What's interesting is that this was actually set up as a pilot program in the previous government in the United Kingdom get my nation East and

1:33:25 And that pilot program, everyone was outraged. Oh we can't do it but actually it went through and got funded for I think like three billion pounds they funded it they set everything up and now they're just saying now it's okay to do it so it's not like it's still gonna happen It has been ongoing for several years you can find all that in the show notes So this has been happening only now, I guess is the way they do it. Now it's just like oh okay now its okay to do it and so what we've been doing for the past couple years is now legal And yeah, people say they have nothing to hide. It was either JC or somebody else that asked the rhetorical question about you know this attack you know they're essentially taking all access to all our personal correspondents telephone calls and everything and putting them in a giant database to be searched at will. The rhetorical question was is this perhaps the reason that there's this weird

1:34:30 almost crazy attack on the US Postal Service because if we can get rid of them that's our last point of protection because there are serious laws about tampering with the mail, looking at your mail. Right right interesting yeah I thought so maybe we should just start recording this show and mailing it to everybody on CD I think that's the way to go, actually. Mail it to them! It's just a thought... We're mailing it in! Some people say we're doing that already! Imagine all the people who could do this? Oh yeah, they'd be fab! Now via mail! So, we got a lot to do today- I had another audition but I don't think that's gonna happen today You just wanna know what the audition was for? What? Samsung refrigerators Wow Yeah, that's a big one

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Birthday Donations, Global Listener Support Segment

A massive influx of $60 donations arrives in honor of John C. Dvorak's 60th birthday. Listeners from the Netherlands, Australia, Sweden, and the U.S. contribute, often requesting "karma" for health issues, job searches, or house sales. Candidate Alan Levine also donates to his congressional campaign in Georgia.

donations· paypal· karma· knighthood· alan levine· second careers· global listeners

1:35:22 It's a big one, but we can't do it because we have a lot of uh... We got a lot because the 60 dollar thing kicked in. Whoa did it ever? Why couldn't you be older why couldn't you just say you were 70 would have been much better I had to wait 10 years for that for that Benny yeah So, okay. Let's see what we have a lot of no good because when I turn 48 Yeah in September it'll yeah like whoop Whoop dee doo well 50 would be probably good but yeah, well you know so who knows it will be around Glenn Riccio and Parts unknown 153 dollars John M here $60 for John's birthday and fifth on the

1:36:02 On the 5th and 43 for my birthday on the 6th with 50 added for the value of the value in entertainment media assassination please send out some fight-the-cancer karma for all those who need it added below is my knighthood accounting yes and he shall be knighted that's right hate the car you've got karma add he stir man's a stir months inch ham in I don't have a note from him, but it's $129 and i'll look it up. But uh see what we got Joseph Wagner in Emeryville. I'm probably the street Uh 120 dollars happy 60th john this is a double shot from your friends joe and beth Down the hill in emeryville hey i'm waving to them right now they can actually see my house uh nichelle moore in nightdale north carolina 100 Sorry to use paypal for my donation but i'm on the road and there's the fastest way to send a payment

1:36:58 Thanks for all you do. Nichelle, North Carolina William Langford in Milwaukee Wisconsin $100 Happy Birthday John last karma from my VA exam worked! Hey now They said I could live three more months What? Geez I have stage 4 cancer and the VA can't figure out why i'm still sucking air and costing them money Need karma for a move into the woods Dude im gonna give that and another 3 month life karma if you don't mind I'd like to keep you around my friend You've got Karma Wow Three more months! Can you imagine that? Can you fucking imagine that? No. Richard Nossel in Huntersville, North Carolina We got a lot of North Carolinians today $99.99 so he had no agenda karma while driving home on a two-lane highway in North Carolina slowed down to help my wife bring up no agenda A van crossed over the line and almost hit his head on NO AGENDA IS A LIFESAVER

1:37:53 That's pretty now that is awesome. Yeah, that's a karma right there a karma story. No, that's a good one Yeah, hold on a second let me get this thing let me slow it slow down whoa Jeez we've been killed if we had not done listen to no agenda yeah Which is kind of a thematic thing if you think about it You can get killed if you don't listen to know agenda Trevor Chapman ramped in Ontario 7513 thanks for the greatest podcast in the universe keep the deconstructions coming please send me a shot of house selling karma we already bought our new house and need our house to sell to make the mortgage payments happy 60th John yeah absolutely you've got karma Julian Erickson Chicago Illinois

1:38:36 69.99, thank you for the best podcast in universe happy birthday John I've been a starving entrepreneur to last 11 months with no income but now i have to go back to corporate work I've been a boner for far too long and so asking for the following de-douching and a new job karma final interview amazing tech company on my way tonight hood before the world ends call out to Melissa and Christian as douchebags with love I turn them onto the show years ago and I'm honored to drop a douch on them That's a good one. Keep propagating the media assassinations, so he needs a... D-douching and a karma. Yeah. You've been d-douched! You've got karma. I've got all these crazy little flies here there must be a dead body nearby or something Oh you got gnats problem in Texas So 69 99 well i guess that maybe it's going to end our run of 69 69s Jap il gul hud. Jap chale hut

1:39:33 Jaap Geelhoed. Geelhood? Geelhood. No, geel-HOOD! Geelhood in Wissenkerk. Wissenkerker Which is the... what does wissen mean? Erased The missing church Yeah, there you go Very good 6978 I'm sure that's what it means Yeah, the church was once there and it is missing. I did send a birthday donation on 34th of my brother The Real Eric in Hansvest in the Netherlands It is a little town known for its crop circles in the area in the past

1:40:14 I've been a listener for some time now and getting him to listen to the greatest podcast in the universe was the best gift i could ever give, and it saved me some money. A birthday present! So US6978, I have just sent you guys those are the years of our birth 6978. I would like to give some wood removing karma on behalf of our old man, a well-known Dutch ninja trainer because the local government is trying to fine him 25 000 euros Because he has too much wood in his yard. Oh wow! So he needs a karma shot. I thought it was something else, but yes wood removing karma. I got it You've got Karma. Thought the guy had like overdone his Viagra or something Ryan Burgette comes in and from Seattle Washington our new 6969 donor. Swasoneth

1:41:07 So we go. Without comment, there may be a note in the email let me just take a quick look. Alright then I'll do Trent Smith hey guys also 6969. Oh two! Trent Drake from Perth Australia as dedicated listener for the first time donor. I'm in desperate need of it to do the head de-douching I got my brother Carl Drake hooked on the show a short time ago by making him listen to the Pipeline episode. He's now trying to catch up with current episodes, so i'd like a douchebag call out for him when he reaches this episode as I can almost guarantee that he still won't have donated. Adam if you have a slow news week

1:41:43 I'd love if you could play the Lucifer clip. I sent you a few weeks ago The email subject line was interview loose for interview with Australian comedy duo and we don't have time today unfortunately But on Sunday, but I will do a douchebag to the head de douching. I think that's kind of what we're looking for so You've been D douched here we go That's one way of doing it sir GQ and Fort Meade, Maryland Another 169 69 I guess probably be the end of it Sir GQ here out call out Taylor Terry Joel Tolman and Chris Ellis as true believers But non-node non donating douchebags

1:42:26 Also, he wants a maestro JC Dvorak slide whistle karma for Taylor and I thanks gents don't mention location Yeah way to go their birthday boy Jonathan's see nowhere 6969 no comment. Well, I guess this keeps on coming. I don't see how we can have any more Oh, yeah Damian Tamen in Perth Didn't you just mention him? No. How many Perth people do we have 6969 again! That was Trent from Perth is a hotbed of no agenda listenership Apparently probably too late but give Johnson getting laid karma for his birthday By the way last batch of 6969 karma worked very well please tell all those ass clowns out there that don't donate to go to Dvorak org slash na and donate

1:43:29 Okay, well give me some karma get laid Karma. You've got a karma Christopher I'm sorry Bonnie Cross Creswell I guess bunny Creswell and Sydney New South Wales 60 we got a lot of Aussies today 6969 in the morning you guys just small note no no it's 6069 No here says sixty nine sixty nine. I have sixty sixty-nine for bonnie. Oh, I'm sorry for Bonnie know my mistake. I'm wrong oh In the morning to you guys, just a note to say thank you for the Karma shot. It worked like a dream! The auction was a total flop no real bidder so we managed to get The House of Our Dreams for a great price. Awesome So they went to a house auction and bought that thing from nothing Huh No bidders Huh In appreciation can I please request a Hey Citizen karma shot to YOU BOTH To help keep the show pulling in the dollars Yeah well then let me uh... Let me do a new Hey Citizen

1:44:29 We got, uh... let's do the harpsichord. That might sound good with some karma. Yes citizen you may return to your harpsichord! You've got karma. Kind of go it in the groove even. That was good. Tight. A tight and musical. Christopher Malmy and Cherry Valley Massachusetts nuts $60.69 in the morning, happy birthday John listen for years but not donated for a while now I have a job that pays the bills plus some I want to start sharing again and i wanna ring please mention the cutoff date 2013 thank you for everything you guys do mainstream media and talk radio have always been pathetic now when I'm stuck listening to the news between weather traffic I pick out the memes and distractions of the week

1:45:18 It's great. Please throw me a de-douching karma." No, that is it is true that it's fun to do once you know Yeah, once you get the hang of it then you'd do it all the time You just got to be careful with other people in your household. It can get quite annoying Well also I would say that The really good guy the real good propagandist can still slip it by ya right And just be careful. Just be careful because it can result in divorce and all kinds of weird stuff. You've been D-douche'd, you've got karma. Peter Chizuski in Kirkland Washington I hope I got that straight $60.69 all the best John they say 60 is the new 40 Yeah that makes me 15 Well Jonathan Dodie

1:46:10 Or I think that would be Doty. Doty? It could be Doty, it could be... I think Doty though. Do-ty. In Alpharetta Georgia $60 John and Adam happy birthday John please give a karma shot to my coworker Shay Marshall who bought me a slide whistle alright! Yay you guys should get together and jam You've got karma. Can you imagine that? A slide whistle jam! I'm sure there's not... You know, I gotta say John, I think that should just be our thing

1:46:47 It should be a Noah J. I mean you can get a slide whistle on the cheap right? I mean, uh... Cheap-ass it's not like you need the really expensive one to be able to play as well as you do Well the really expensive one is cheap that's the point What is how much does a really expensive slide whistle? They're like twelve to fifteen dollars No come on Like Is that an orchestral approved Yeah then The one I have is an orchestral Really? Well I could be wrong, it might be 25 bucks but it's not the cost of a... It doesn't sound like a horn. It's not like a saxophone! I'm gonna order one right now. It's just a slide whistle you know. But what is made out of? What's it made out of Rhino Horn? No this is made out of looks like chrome steel. Really let me just look up here on Amazon lemme see. Is this a Grover Trophy Slide Whistle? If I see it I can recognize its got that. 945

1:47:38 Uh, that one there's a honer but that's a kid's puppy slide flute whistle. No no you want the big one it's like you blow it on the dog's head I think this is the one what did you does yours have a brand? Yeah I had to brand in the box I tell you what it's It should say it on the side, isn't it engraved or something? No. It's not that's a...it's just all chrome American plating and manufacturing? Yeah thats' it! That's the one $10.05 Hold on a second I'm buying it American Plating American Plating I am buying it right now So when you get to boxes like this these boxes were printed in the late 20s I think they're still selling from their original manufacturing supply because people you know I hate to say this I know its kind of pathetic indictment on American culture but nobody is buying slide whistles anymore

1:48:23 So this one is new from Musical Instrument Haven $10.05 with four dollars and seventy cents shipping Wait, I don't have premium? What is it called Amazon Prime? Prime Let's see there we go Trophy slide trophy metal slide whistle for nine bucks I think you know I'm just gonna get one right now Amazon's base price for the thing and it's the same one Is 9 bucks It's 945 Yeah it's nine bucks Plus some shipping Hey wait a minute Yeah so under 15 bucks your good to go I think the high schools should think about this as maybe giving to their music department, so they're cutting back on part of the curriculum. All slide whistle part of the curriculum The all slide whistle marching band now that would be something i'd go to see So i'm just going to do standard shipping hey? I guess you know I can't buy this on prime for some reason And i'm gonna share this item now on twitter hold on i'm gonna

1:49:26 I just bought. I just bought... You're gonna love it! Tweet this item. Oh, that's hilarious Okay ready? I'm going to tweet it right now Perfect okay, then we're good Did you send Dodie a karma shot? Yeah here- Just in case I didn't, here comes Karma How do I get rid of these gnats? It's just Shay Marshall Shay as in Shague Guevara Marshall What?! I got the wrong one!? You bought the wrong one? Oh, you sold American manufacturing. You can cancel your order just go to the cancel orders thing No I want to have this one I like it better It said American on it so I'll take that and everyone should get a slide whistle There will be no new agenda thing Alright we have a bunch of 60 dollar donations to celebrate my birthday My official 60th birthday And um...I wanna just read some names The comments are minor there's not too many Uh Edward

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1:55:25 What was that? I don't know, but he runs a local ISV sweatshop and can probably use whatever argument Microsoft is using to qualify it's something to do with business. Oh no! That was the 9% deduction that the oil company... Oh right, that crazy 9% deduction. Oh interesting you didn't take advantage of that?! I guess we should look at it. I'm requesting some get laid karma and a slide whistle from John that i can use as a notification sound on my mobile device let me just do that first into the karma ready oh sorry yeah you've got karma that totally sucked okay Frank Van Sonnen Tilburg uh somewhere Tillberg Holland yeah Holland okay two small favors Karma Shop for his daughter for a battle to heal from anorexia plug for his website

1:56:18 Three gone with number three gun travel calm You've got karma eat Oh Take it from here and I'll have to look something up my goodness bill Gress Ypsilanti, Michigan this is not a donation. This is the digital cash exchange for the informational equivalent of reared and metal Yeah, there's nothing like a little Jeffrey Anderson, Pittsburgh Pennsylvania in the morning. John Adam I have now settled in Gitmo Nation Steel City of embarked upon my second career come up with a donation club since you both know all about the second careers and many of our listeners do too I propose a certain donation amount for those who are seeking to jump to his second career Since we hear so many people donating in trying to change jobs or careers I found that fitting to choose 50-50 for myself

1:57:13 Could I get a Huntsman Karma for continued success in adjusting to a new career? Finally, I have a term for the artificial reality the media portrays that I would like you to have free of charge. I always called it pop reality so we're going to give you a Huntsman Karma. You've got karma And let me mention we also have Alan Levine for Congress committee who gave us $50 first of many donations He hopes he's running for Congress in Georgia and some I think he's running in the primaries, and he says you know I've chatted with him actually and he says that he'll be the inside guy in Congress if it gets in for no agenda Yeah cool so what just imagine on c-span and like oh

1:57:58 Uh, the distinguished gentleman from Georgia has five minutes and be like, anyway you can go to his website. Alan Lev Levine L a l t is a tough one that he should have shortened his name as A LL AN LEV EN for congress.com so how do I get rid of these nets? Yeah. Well let me name we just have a few $50 ones left and let's say it will be done Sir Adam Kolb in Menashe, Wisconsin. Alan Haverson Gravenhurst Ontario. Andrew Haverson. What I said Alan? Yeah. Andrew Haverson sorry. Sir Christopher Lawton in Dartmouth Massachusetts. Philip Meason in Welshpool Pows.

1:58:46 UK. Robin Dearden, Black Knight Robin Hoboken New Jersey and that concludes our very generous donation segment thanks to my birthday yeah you know that we'll have nothing on Sunday oh yeah no Sundays if anybody wants to get a really cheap executive producership Sunday's your day yeah just borac dot org slash n a It's your birthday, birthday! I've got Nats. On no agenda! Let's see... Mary Nicole says happy birthday to her son Matt Linda Neu-yen? Neueien? Nguyen

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Knighting Ceremony, UV Bug Zapper Recommendation

The hosts officially knight several high-tier donors into the No Agenda Round Table. Amidst the ceremony, Adam Curry complains about a gnat infestation in his studio, leading Dvorak to recommend a specific UV light and soapy water trap for pest control.

knighthood· brett lamont· matt nicole· kent o'rourke· glenn riccio· gnats· uv light

1:59:31 Says happy birthday to her husband Fox Fern turns 30th on the 6. That's tomorrow Glenn Riccio congratulates himself celebrating tomorrow as well Yap hail hoots brother the real Eric turns 34 happy birthday and everybody else What does that mean is it buzz? Oh just a buzz pill everybody else says happy birthday to John C. Dvorak 60! Happy Birthday did you get a card? Did you get a card? I got it yeah I got a card the one card that was kind of cool was sent from Baron von Pelsmach

2:00:11 These nuts are crazy. What's going on? I'll tell you what you're gonna have to do before we finish this segment. You're gonna have to go online and buy one of these UV zappers Well, you can buy an electric zapper but then they're always making noise. The best device I've ever found is a UV attractant so it's a UV light and there's a little fan behind the light bulb and there's a pool of soapy water and the bugs come towards the light and then the fan blows them into the water before they have a chance to adjust to this stream of air and they all drown and end up with a bucket full of dead bugs

2:00:50 that is easily disposed and they'll get all the gnats out of the room. It's also good for mosquitoes let me see okay by the way there's a few uh things at the post office box i'll thank those people on sunday because I think there's a few late 60 donations because we do the thing it, we download the data at midnight and um it's a good thing we did today because it took I downloaded it at midnight and it took four hours. Hey, these things are expensive man 99 bucks Yeah they're worth every penny really yes that's very expensive you'll have like as you have a situation where you have a mosquito in the house and You can't catch him he's biting everybody you put that thing out He's done well this is a expensive item

2:01:38 Yeah, but these gnats are like in my studio. It's a crazy What am I telling if you don't get that item? You're not gonna get rid of those things I mean they'll die but you know there be bugs and you have bugs in your equipment Okay Order one all right cool man let's move on we got a How's your sword here okay? Good? You got it Well, looks like people are really getting in on obtaining their night rings before the night rings go away. Night hoods will remain of course after the end of this year if we remain as a humanity So please step forward Brett Lamont Matt Nicole Kent O'Rourke and Glenn Riccio You are all knights to the Noah's inner round table Let me slam that sword around you Sir Brett Sir Matt Sir Kent and sir Glenn

2:02:31 Come on over for your Hercules and Blow, your Rimp Boys and Chardonnay or Hot Pants and Booze or your Wenches in Beer. And thank you so much for supporting the No Agenda program! This was a outstanding episode for us A lot of it thanks to John's birthday So if we can just keep this going the older he gets the better will do And that is... Yeah, now it's highly, highly appreciated. I know for the people on the live stream we hope we made some of it entertaining. Ow! This is on my screen now? Yeah you got gnats. I got gnats. You got gnats. Alright finally I'm back to that and can talk about something here

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

FunVax Pentagon Presentation, Religious Fundamentalism Vaccine

A leaked 2005 Pentagon presentation discusses "FunVax," a conceptual vaccine designed to inhibit the VMAT2 "God gene" to eliminate religious fundamentalism. The presenter suggests dispersing the vaccine via respiratory viruses like the flu. The hosts debate whether the video is an elaborate hoax or a legitimate military proposal for social engineering in the Middle East.

funvax· pentagon· vmat2 gene· god gene· vaccine· aerosol· gene therapy

2:03:19 Um, this is a video that has been going around the circles that I often travel in. Crackpot! This is a video from the Pentagon have you seen this? Are you familiar with the FunVax? No... The FUNVAX. The fun vax! Funvax f-u-n-v-a-x Yeah don't google it just yet. Don't Google it yet promise me. Nah I'm not gonna Google them listen This was a presentation at the Pentagon in 2005. I'm not sure if this video got declassified now or why it's circling now, or what the deal is... A lot of people writing about it. It says that vaccine will remove the fundamentalism portion of your brain so you don't become a jihadist

2:04:06 or suicide bomber and this is a part of the presentation you'll hear the speaker and there's maybe in the room 10 or 15, your googling aren't you? No I'm not googling. I guarantee it i am writing down possible title for this show Fun Vax He's presenting he's got a PowerPoint up, and he's got cat scans and everything Fun not fund no fun fun facts FUN which is of course is they always love having these cute little names So it's fun to vaccinate people We're gonna hear how they're going to do To do what what they can use it for there's a guy in the court in the audience asking some good questions Have a listen excuse me on the left over here. We have a

2:04:48 individuals who are religious fundamentalists, religious fanatics. And this is the expression RT-PCR real time PCR expression of the VMAT2 gene over here we have individuals so let me complete. So over here we have individuals who are not particularly fundamentalist, not particularly religious and you can see there's a much reduced expression of this particular gene that the VMAT2 gene another evidence that supports our hypothesis for the development up of this approach. So he's just shown

2:05:27 two different brain scans, CAT scans about this gene that apparently exists and if you have this which undoubtedly if they did a CAT scan of me I've got it. I'm sure even though not a fundamentalist jihadist so the hypothesis is we can develop a vaccine for this and we have what you see here is by spreading this virus individuals from thawing on a palm vest and going into the market, blowing up the market. So our hypothesis is that these are fanatical people that they have overexpression of the VMAT2 gene and by vaccinating them against this we'll eliminate this behavior Now listen to this... The guy asked how are we gonna do this?

2:06:12 So the data that I'm presenting here supports the concept that we're proposing. and I think that we would not propose to do CT scans or fMRIs on individuals out in the hinterlands of Afghanistan. The virus would immunize against this VMAT2 gene, and that would have the effect you see here which is essentially to turn a fanatic into a normal person And we think it will have major effects in the Middle East

2:06:49 How would you suggest that this is going to be dispersed? Aerosol?" I don't know if you could hear that. He says, how do you suggest this is dispersed? Aerosol? Well so the present plan and the tests we've done so far have used respiratory viruses such as flu or rhinoviruses and we believe that's a satisfactory way to get the exposure of the largest part of the population. Most of us, of course have been exposed to both those viruses and were quite confident that this will be a very successful approach. This is fascinating! What is the name of this proposal?

2:07:28 Yes, so the name of this project is Funvax which says the vaccine for religious fundamentalism. And you have a proposal already? The proposal has just been submitted and I think that the data that i have shown you today would support uh... the development of this project and we think it has great promise So without looking anything up Is it a hoax? Immediately I want to say its an April Fool's game That what I thought too obviously And one of the reasons I'd say that, besides the guy sounds like he's pulling one is they... Is that this is not a vaccine. This is gene therapy Right but they want to distribute it via aerosol vaccination Yeah well its gene therapy done that way It's not possible So this whole thing is bull crap No we said vaccine like a flu vaccine You can't inject it? you can't inject the gene therapy

2:08:23 Well I thought he was going to do... No, the guy says how you distribute aerosol. He says no everyone has the flu so we have the flu vaccines everyone's used to that So that's the way i understood it at least is it would be distributed.. No, I didn't understand it that way but always go on and finish me off That's the clip then uh I tell you when I look it up on Google I don't know what do you see? I'm gonna see It's gonna be dumb Do I get Rickrolled No, no it's not. I don't think it is a joke. I'm waiting to get Rickrolled! No, I don't think its a joke. It's the real deal. Removing the God gene? Do you have it? I've heard about the god gene before that has been around. Leaked briefing 2009 June 13th 2011 So the dates don't match an April Fools gag. No but this was from 2005

2:09:17 Yeah, supposedly. I didn't see it in 2005 when i was... you never know about these dates Uh, huh. Yeah I don't see why would what was the point of me not looking it up? Well because i wanted to play the whole thing before you go on You know just...I just wanted to have the whole thing out there was no other reason than just don't look at all this trying to hide some No! I'm not trying to hide any fact I mean if the problem of course with Google is you get all these sites that are totally buying into it and now I want I don't know. It sounds very plausible to me. Let me do a different search, FunVac hoax There you go that's what you want to do try fun vacs hoax Nope i can't find anything yet So it may be true Yeah maybe these guys are nuts If they're not true then what are they doing? That is kind of what I thought

2:10:27 Most of you blowing stuff up or stupid kids that are talked into it by some older cynical old fart Hey, you know We're gonna pay your family off a couple You know they get there for one thing is a bunch of money goes to the family and you doing the family a favor There's too many kids in the family. Anyway we want you to blow yourself up You'll go to heaven with two with a bunch of virgins even though you're a virgin and don't know what to do So okay boom Anyway, so I don't think this would help change that one iota no agenda pipeline fever Pipeline fever is real and fever Israel in Greece This week with the u.s.. Sixth fleet also participating Joint naval drill which includes simulation of attack on offshore natural gas platforms Hello

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Israel-Greece Naval Drills, South Sudan Pipeline Proposals

Israel and Greece conducted joint naval drills simulating attacks on offshore gas platforms as Israeli firms bid for Greek state energy assets. Meanwhile, India has invited South Sudan's president to discuss building a crude oil pipeline through Kenya or Djibouti, where the U.S. maintains a drone base.

israel· greece· natural gas· south sudan· djibouti· pipeline· naval drills

2:11:29 And the significance of that is that several Israeli firms are now bidding for the purchase of the Greek state assets, which includes the natural gas company DEPA. So the Israelis are in now they're figuring out this probably a good idea to jump in and have more control of it. Yeah I think that's pretty good what else? Well, Mali there was a little blurb there. Science is in Al Qaeda gained ground in troubled Mali. Hey finally got out. Qaeda and that's good so now we can go on by send the drones send the drones over to Mali perfect gaining ground yeah it becomes make this stuff up as they go along It becomes also incredibly obvious India and that this kind of his call back too you know the guy that India wants for them Mumbai attacks

2:12:23 Maybe we're trying to suck up to India. The India is inviting Southern Sudan South Sudan president Salva key Mayer deet and his petroleum minister and offering to build a pipeline for evacuating its crude oil either to Kenya or Djibouti, ah Djibouti Where we have a beautiful drone base? There's nothing like Djibouti. I need a t-shirt that says Love your jeep booty or something like that. Oh look at her I love you booty. That's it. Just I loved your booty and have a drone Yeah, whoever is gonna design this you have to say that in bold thing and then have a drone yeah flying of course other otherwise It's no good And then we had the big

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Syria Conflict Diplomacy, UN Peacekeepers Deployment

Diplomatic efforts continue in Syria as an advanced UN team prepares to monitor a promised truce under Kofi Annan's peace plan. U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice expresses skepticism about the Syrian government's commitment to ending the assault on civilians. The hosts note the rebranding of the "Friends of Syria" group and the role of EU representative Kathy Ashton.

syria· kofi annan· bashar al-assad· un peacekeepers· hillary clinton· kathy ashton

2:13:20 Friends of the Syrian people, there has been a rebranding although it's the media is not caught on to it they still talk about the friends of Syria but if you look at Lucifer out there with her speech in where was she? It was in Was it in Istanbul? No, yeah I think was in Istanbul wasn't it. I don't know every day she's speaking somewhere well here's what was kind of interesting so she comes out and yes she was in Turkey and although there's not a lot of good video on this he says there's no clear path we know that a nuclear-armed Iran will be incredibly destabilizing because this you know this obviously fits right into Syria because Iran has now asked for a meeting

2:14:10 And the high priestess, Kathy Ashton, Baroness Kathy. She's setting up the meeting and the Iranians are pretty funny they have suggested Damascus as a place for the meeting I got a that's Syria for those of you don't know but that was pretty funny today We can do Iraq we can do Baghdad or we can do Damascus your choice So they're trying to figure out where did the meeting? But that is the it is not Hillary clippity-clops job to do that It is Kathy Ashton who was there could of course great friends the two of them, so we have to see how that winds up and then meanwhile

2:14:49 What has now been decided is the following for Syria. By the way, they've got journalists... Why is it always unverified? I mean, is this just to cover your ass saying that's its fake? I'm really tired of it. Verify your footage, be a real news organization everybody needs to stop we can't verify this footage Especially in this day and age when every guy with a camcorder could be taking pictures anywhere We've got satellites! And sending it with a hokey cock-and-bull story about where it came from and then them buying it Yeah... Why don't they put some boots on the ground? Well, that's funny you ask Syrian troops are trying to weaken rebel forces ahead of a ceasefire deadline next week

2:15:35 An advanced team from the UN Peacekeeping Department. Ah, an advanced team from the UN... ...Peace-Keeping department! Oh nothing worse than peacekeepers. Those are the guys with blue helmets and big guns. It's expected in Damascus within 48 hours to discuss deployment of observers to monitor the much promised truce As part of Kofi Annan's plan, 200 peacekeepers are hoping to go to Syria although that will require a Security Council resolution. And on past efforts that won't be easy. Let's bring in Rice! The Security Council has been shamefully and woefully divided on the issue of Syria and unable to adopt resolutions that even would entail relatively modest action

2:16:21 Meanwhile, the chief of the International Red Cross has been in the Syrian capital to secure agreement on implementing a daily two-hour pause in attacks to provide humanitarian assistance. But on all counts Western diplomats remain sceptical as Syria has repeatedly promised to end its yearlong assault on civilians opposed to President Bashar al Assad So we thought it was a done deal, but apparently it's not all done yet. So we have until the 10th of April they're just kicking the can down the road But well you know when the peacekeepers come in The UN Peace Keepers You know that usually means that the World Army is coming in and that brings me to... The following I had never heard of this outfit but Lucifer Clippity-Clop went over and uh And she

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NATO Allied Command Transformation, Global Response Force

Hillary Clinton delivered a speech at the Allied Command Transformation (ACT) in Norfolk, Virginia, marking NATO's 63rd anniversary. The ACT is described as the lead for military transformation, overseeing the NATO Response Force (NRF). The hosts characterize this as the foundation for a "New World Order" global army capable of rapid multinational deployment.

nato· act· norfolk· hillary clinton· nrf· world army· military transformation

2:17:10 did a speech at the ACT. You familiar with the ACT, John? Any idea what this is, the ACT? I've heard of the ACT because i think i've seen one or more of their events on C-SPAN Yes this is the Allied Command Transformation and you can find their website at... why don't you take a look at these gnats are like freaking me out You can find their website at ACT.NATO.INT

2:18:00 And let me play you a little snippet from her speech there. Hold on. It is especially timely that we would meet since tomorrow marks the 63rd anniversary of the signing of The Washington Treaty, when 12 countries pledged to safeguard each other's freedom and committed to the principles of democracy liberty and the rule of law From those earliest days, Norfolk served as a crucial naval base and training facility for the Alliance and our partners. And today it is home to ACT where staff from every nation in NATO are taking on one of the most important challenges we face together

2:18:50 how to continue transforming our alliance so that it can champion those principles just as effectively in the 21st century as we did in the 20th century. And there can be no better place and no better time as you celebrate another Norfolk NATO festival to discuss the greatest alliance in history, and the future we are shaping together. So this thing to me, as I looked it up and took the liberty of doing some research looks like the organization that is meant to bring together the New World Order army

2:19:30 The Allied Command Transformation is a NATO military command formed in 2003 after North Atlantic Treaty Organization restructuring. It is intended to lead military transformation of alliance forces and capabilities using new concepts such as the NATO Response Force, Let's look at the NATO Response Force, known as the NRF. It is a coherent high readiness joint multinational force package that is technologically advanced flexible deployable interoperable and sustainable it's green

2:20:11 Its role is to act as a standalone military force available for rapid deployment by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, as a collective defense crisis management or stabilization force. Or to act as an initial entry force for subsequent primary deployment." The NRF comprises land, air and sea components provided by NATO members contributed forces first trained together then become available for a six-month period before being replaced by a new force. This is the army the global world army and Lucifer is right there she was on stage while other literally she's almost like the master of ceremonies at this thing And I'd never heard of this thing before

2:20:58 But this is, I mean this is not protecting if one of us gets attacked. This is a military force that will be used as our army Your thoughts, Professor DeBorah? Well I'm reading the... there's another little document that i've been reading here which is the TIDE document and TIDE and they have a if you look on their home page of the act they have a tide sprint coming up. A little race that people can take part in it if they want but TIDE stands for transforming technology towards information decision and execution superiority And I think a lot of this can be said, NATO OTAN.

2:21:41 There's a lot of code in here, but as we enter the 21st century this threats to NATO are not what they once were. No! Yeah like none and the alliance is transforming to... This is like the classic you set up a bureaucracy it does what it has to do to stay alive and The Alliance is transforming To respond to deal with the new environment NATO Secretary General Lord Robertson said NATO must change radically if it is to be effective and marginalize or be marginalized So they started up this whole thing in 2003 and they've been building toward this, no thanks to Rumsfeld. Building toward creating this... yeah! This is a world army. And it's being created right there?

2:22:28 It's a good PDF file in the thing. What is weird to me, this has nothing to do with the topic but I have yet to see normally when you do subdomains in a URL You can't use www Yeah they had...I think it's required on this site for some reason I wonder why? It's very strange Of course you can, you can do that. It's not a problem to do that it's just... You have set it up specifically? Yeah, it is just the C name. It's a wild card I know all about it. I don't like them and use them. I rock against WWW. You can get to lot of my sites anymore with WWW screw you! I'm no doing any more

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Schriever War Games, Air Force Space Command

The Air Force Space Command is conducting the Schriever War Games to investigate the integration of space systems and protect assets like GPS from adversaries. The exercises involve multiple agencies and focus on space-based warfare. The hosts discuss the various Air Force bases involved, including Thule in Greenland and Clear in Alaska.

schriever war games· air force space command· gps· vandenberg· colorado· satellites

2:23:07 So, uh... Yeah. We have to follow this now! You see this? Shriever War Games 2012 SW12 Defending Freedom Do you see this thing? No I'm gonna go look at it That's if you go the Tide thing that you talked about? Yeah There is an eagle with a arrow flying around and Shriever War Game 2012 What is this a new game? Oh yeah. I don't know Shriever... What is OTAN by the way I don't know. The organization... No, that can't be it. Schriever War Game 2012. Hmm interesting. Let's just practice! They got a cool logo though You know i'm reminded of a cliche Lionel Shrievers New Republic We have to look into this. Here Pentagon. I'm reminded of-I just want to play a little clip as an aside here to lighten things up While all this is going on and I think one of the reasons people are screaming Oh hold on before you do that listen to this

2:24:12 Shriver wargame set to begin the space innovation and development center will conduct the sixth shriver Wargames probably Shriver. Well, it's s r ie s r sch are ie so I Shree I think it's river Okay We'll explore critical space issues and investigate the integration activities of multiple agencies associated with Space systems and services Space commands. Yeah, yeah space focus war games it's for the moon bases I've always told you this I've always told you there is stuff There are there's warfare in space as we speak well You said was thematic about a year and a half ago? You kept you kept bringing It's like you do with pipelines now you can't bring everything to some battle in space that you know a satellite comes Crumbling down it was because somebody shot it down. Yeah one day here's proof

2:25:07 Well, there's Space Missile and Command Center in Los Angeles AFB. What's the Los Angeles Air Force Base? They just yesterday shot up another Delta IV rocket You're talking about Vandenberg? Yeah Why is it called the Los Angeles Air Force Base in this document I don't know That's weird Designs and acquires all air force and most departments overseas launches completes on check da-da-dah Space AF SPC major command providing space forces look I'll be happy if I can get rid of the Nats. I can't be worried about the space wars anymore Cheyenne Mountain no Cheyenne Mountain, which is they you know where they were they Colorado that's Colorado isn't it yeah? Yeah That's where they put everyone so the AFS PC and AFS PC stands for

2:25:59 Air Force Space Command. Air Force Space Command. I'm telling you, I'm telling you! Air Force Space Command. So yeah, rocket ship guys. Yeah Shriver Air Force Base so Shrivers an air force base Peterson Air Force Base and Buckley Air Force Base in Colorado so these most of this is in Colorado Air Force Station Los Angeles Air Force Base and Vandenberg Air Force Base so there's a separate So Los Angeles Air Force Base is not Vandenberg. Oh, I'm sorry so it's something else i never heard of a los angeles air force base uh cape canaveral patrick air force base minot and cavlin minutes where they have some strange supposed uh the shrever war game series is an important tool that helps us understand a very complex operational environment yes space

2:26:45 These games give the Air Force and all space mission partners a better idea of how to protect space assets from potential adversaries, and how to better integrate space systems throughout our national security community. Awesome! So they're also working out of CLEAR Air Force Base in Alaska, which I think is where HARP is. Listen to you! Very good listen to you! And Thule Air Force Base in Greenland what are they doing in Greenland? We've got him ladies and gentlemen he's now HARP rolls off the tip of his tongue. Because HARP is used as everyone knows for long distance communication. To create earthquakes. That's how much it got me.

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Vladimir Putin Zombie Gun, Russian Geophysical Weaponry

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin is reportedly backing the development of "zombie guns" and other psychotronic weaponry that attacks the central nervous system. The Russian arms procurement program for 2011-2020 includes research into direct energy, geophysical, and genetic weapons. The hosts also examine strange military patches featuring alien imagery.

vladimir putin· zombie gun· psychotronic weapons· direct energy· russia· geophysical weapons

2:27:30 earthquakes and Yeah, oh this is interesting AFS PC operates and supports the global positioning system. That's what they're out to do have to protect it mm-hmm And defense satellite communication systems phase two and three as you were just it's all for spying on the public and for shooting space I gotta get me a space gun. You know Vladimir Putin, did you see that Vladimir Putin? Remember that crazy guy that I played the clip turns out he isn't so crazy That Russian guy was talking about earthquake machines And now the media at least or the so-called media is taking it very seriously Putin here is this is Serdyukov in a meeting

2:28:20 With Putin, now this is according to Russian publication but firmly propagated by the Guardian I might add and The Daily Mail. The development of weaponry based on new physics principles direct energy weapons geophysical weapons wave energy weapons genetic weapons psychotronic weapons are all part of the new state arms procurement program for 2011-2020 and Putin specifically Is very excited about the zombie gun which attacks victims central nervous system. They got a picture of Putin Yeah, and the zombie gun this I'm again was a big story another distraction is last week Good one though

2:29:04 All right, you had a clip you wanted to set up. This is all this is all now I'm on this one web page I got a sanity it's called the living moon calm And it's got all these patches at these different little you know every whatever group You're in and the military get a patch right? But there's this one patch which is the Air Force 10 cap special applications. This Pegasus research? And it has a picture of an alien on it, I'm not buying that this thing actually exists as a patch Is the website have sound? Does it? Not in my machine The livingmoon.com Oh well you gotta go... Cool

2:29:44 Cutting-edge special projects the division I gotta get you guys This is sub page. I'll send it to you. It's got a mean outer space connection impossible that we don't have listeners and producers who work at these outfits and That's because these outfits this most of this is bogus Oh, well if but if you do work there send us a patch oh, I love without that patch with the alien on it hell Yeah alright now Come on. All right, we got a couple of things I can go these are evergreen so we don't have to do them but I just there was one that I thought was pretty funny There was a one in the military channel they were talking about the

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Enola Gay Crew Member, World War II Education

A surviving crew member of the Enola Gay expresses frustration that modern students do not understand the historical context of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The hosts share an anecdote about a high school student referring to World War II as "World War 11" due to a misunderstanding of Roman numerals.

enola gay· hiroshima· nagasaki· world war ii· education· veterans

2:30:25 Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs, and why we had to do it because the Emperor said that Japanese will fight for their motherland to the last dead Japanese. And they were crashing planes into us. They had a suicide. We had something drastic so we had to drop these two bombs to send them a message essentially. What did you call this? But this isn't being apparently taught anymore and so everybody, so they have one of the last guys who was the crew member of the Enola Gay bitching about the fact that nobody knows his true story anymore. It's all been perverted by the education system? Huh And he makes this joke at the, I mean not a joke it's a fact but he does... This little commentary just rolls an eye roller People have no concept on why we dropped the bombs at the time we did

2:31:10 They just assume that we drop the bombs in order to cause those large casualties. They do not take time to read it and understand it. And no matter what you tell them, I don't think they're... most people will never understand it You go to high schools today and the high schools today don't understand anything about World War II Like that thing I did describe how I was introduced at once High School as a veteran of World War 11 World War 11? Yeah, because it's world war 2. That's how bad it is?! Roman numeral two to some idiot is like world war 11. Oh wow! Yeah that's good. That's our schooling system. World War 11. Welcome to America. Poor guy

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C-SPAN StudentCam Competition, First Amendment Indoctrination

A prize-winning entry in C-SPAN's StudentCam documentary competition focuses on the FDA's right to mandate graphic warning labels on cigarette packages. The hosts argue the film is anti-smoking propaganda rather than a serious exploration of the First Amendment, suggesting that students are being indoctrinated to favor government regulation over free speech.

c-span· studentcam· first amendment· cigarette labels· fda· indoctrination

2:32:03 Oh man. I just couldn't resist that was like, that was just too much for me So i'm a little worried because I think C-SPAN is being severely severely corrupted They're losing their main guy and he's quitting Right now he's gone He's the founder but he's sick of it Oh yeah so they had this thing uh c-span documentary challenge for kids And I like this. I'm like, oh okay kids are gonna go and the actual mission was create a short film documentary about one of the articles of The Constitution and make a documentary about it. So this is kind of cool you know? Like all right! I want to see these kids in this all based out of their schools obviously so

2:32:59 I've cut down this 10-minute documentary and just taken out some pertinent bits. First off, here's how it starts a couple of kids...a couple of girls they're in uh i'm gonna guess fifth grade and this is the start of their documentary about the freedom of speech in the United States Constitution. Students across the country what part of the constitution was important to them? And why today's third prize winner selected the first amendment Man, this test on the Bill of Rights tomorrow is going to be hard. You can say that again! Our teacher sure did not do a good job explaining this I don't understand the First Amendment especially the concept of freedom of speech and does it give us the right to say anything we want? Yeah and doesn't allow the government under certain conditions to limit our freedom of speech Good questions let's do some more research Okay were you able to understand that yeah

2:33:51 So, our teacher didn't do a good job of explaining the freedom of speech in our first amendment. Let's do some research! Here is the research they did... 7 minutes worth of this. Do you think that FDA has a right to require these images on cigarette packages? Well I think that goes back to the first amendment argument and i'm going to suggest they do but it may be wrong. By mandating these warning labels, is the government abusing the constitutional right of freedom of speech? Individuals still enjoy freedom of speech or freedom from speech. However commercial speech does not have as much protection as individual free speech According to a Supreme Court ruling all that government needs to do is pass two criteria to be able to control commercial speech

2:34:44 First, it must show substantial interest. Substantial interest in this situation was alerting the public of health risks and smoking This would save the government billions in healthcare costs That I would say constitutes substantial interest Second, does the law further that interest? Showing gruesome pictures of dead and dying people will definitely further that interest. Therefore according to the Supreme Court the government appears to have a right to mandate these labels." So there's 8 minutes...of the whole thing is about warning labels on cigarette packages if that should be protected under the First Amendment and if cigarette companies have the right to not be mandated, put that on there. It's an eight minute anti-smoking documentary! it has nothing to do with the First Amendment except one minor piece

2:35:39 And then they wind it up by show, oh you could get labels like don't drink you look like what's that crazy actor dude's name? Crazy actor dude. Yeah with that mug shot yeah they always show us mugshots. Oh uh yeah Gary Busey. Nick Nolte. It's the same guy doesn't matter Thinking about hitting the slopes well you won't be thinking much more about anything if you do Before you decide to throw back a cold one with your friends, keep in mind that there's a good chance to get an up like this guy. Oh and by the way we all received an A on our test. Uggghhh! Stupid morons That was really bad That's why I fear for C-SPAN There is no First Amendment information in there whatsoever Not the whole thing is that? That's what the First Amendment is about It's about the right for the government to put labels on things that are bad for you

2:36:37 That's what C-SPAN is now pushing. And these kids are clearly, clearly indoctrinated and lobotomized... Oh yeah no this is terrible it's like World War 11 I mean I expect to hear that from some kid Yeah but its like oh it'll be good because here's some other labels you can get Like oh before you knock back a cold one with your buddies You could wind up looking like this guy This is really...this is Use of our money also part of the neo-prohibitionist thing they speak that way. Of course, but we got an A Oh by the way We got an a eight minutes of this crap that is not about the First Amendment How did they get in a post facto?

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Ron Paul Constitutional Principles, Financial Crisis Warning

Representative Ron Paul defends his "wild ideas" during a Fox News interview, arguing that following the Constitution and balancing the budget should be conventional wisdom. Paul warns that the global debt crisis and the dollar's status as a reserve currency will eventually force a financial reckoning that the current political leadership is ignoring.

ron paul· constitution· federal reserve· debt crisis· foreign policy· fox news

2:37:23 I mean it's how is it on the video? No, that was stuck in at the end right after. Well no, I'm not sure how they did it but doesn't matter That was the third place so you can... I can't wait until they do the runner-up and the winner. I'm sure that's gonna be awesome Oh, I'll bet it's tall unless somebody does a good thing on the 10th amendment I doubt it you want to hear a guy who actually knows what the hell he's talking about This is Ron Paul on some local douchebag Fox station I think perhaps a lot of people would wonder how at this point in the game you have perhaps been labeled as sort of maybe even ostracized, as the guy with the wild ideas and that sort of stuff. And then more we hear from other candidates, I think a lot of people would wonder why are you getting that reputation when were talking about colonies on the moon and other things?

2:38:15 Yeah, wild ideas like the Constitution. Wild ideas like when you need money and you're not supposed to print it. Wild ideas like don't go to war unless you declare the war and balance the budget. You know those are really wild ideas but but they're not conventional, it is true. The conventional wisdom of both the leadership of both parties is that the status quo is you defend deficits, you keep spending, you print them money, you don't challenge a federal reserve, yet at the same foreign policy of occupation and nation building and policing in world, but its coming to an end financially, it's not going to last and thats why we are in the midst of financial crisis which is reflection of worldwide debt crisis

2:38:58 which has been generated by a dollar reserve currency and it has to be addressed. It will be forced through economic law demands that we address that subject. That's the guy who deserves an A on his paper. Yeah, well that's not gonna happen No So we're talking a little bit about politics There was a funny clip that they've been dug up and I guess it well I didn't see it when It first came out maybe I missed him Maybe I already ran it but I'm too old to remember But McCain when he first endorsed Romney came out And gave a speech in front of a bunch of Romney-ites And then a bunch of, right about halfway through it they... A bunch of the associates of Romney come rushing on the stage to shake him. To make sure he gets this right listen to this I am confident with the leadership and backing of the American people President Obama will turn this country around We believe in America we believe that our best days are ahead of us What? Excuse me president Romney

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

John McCain Gaffe, Financial Times Climate Reporting

John McCain accidentally stated that "President Obama will turn this country around" during a speech endorsing Mitt Romney. Additionally, the hosts criticize the Financial Times for an article linking ocean pollution and global warming to hurricane activity, leading Dvorak to threaten to cancel his subscription.

john mccain· mitt romney· barack obama· financial times· global warming· pollution

2:39:52 I had not heard that one. Yeah, I didn't either. I think we have a January. I think we have a rare double A rare double yeah, it's happened before that is awesome if people like were like they must have been like oh Turn his juice back on man plug him back in Recharge him. He needed help need help Yeah, financial times which I subscribe to on my Kindle Actually mr Oil sent me the PDF of it But I went back you when you have something on the kindle Of course You can't get it off guys want to send it somewhere so I can look at this Look at this article again. You can't do that as all like host Financial Times

2:40:57 In a study with important implications for the insurance industry, scientists from Britain's Metropolitan Met Office... Meteorological Met Office say they have established a link between pollution wafting across the ocean and efforts to remove it and events such as drought in this Sahel region of North Africa and hurricane activity in the United States. So so the new meme is All this horrible weather, the hurricanes and I'm sure tornadoes. That's all because of pollution. Which scientists have linked to global warming? Yeah! Financial Times... I am cancelling my subscription You can't get away from it- I thought you cancelled already when you found him compromising some other stuff. The science is end! Science!

2:41:59 No, I'm canceling now for sure. Well it's the only newspaper i wanted to subscribe to! I don't anymore and the only reason why is because Uncle Don will read them like well if the CIA reads then I should probably read it Yeah, you have to see it with it because there could be code in there. I mean not that he's in the CIA anymore I'm just saying so you just said it again? I'm just saying That was the first time I said it in this episode and I will point out that on the last episode of This Week In Tech You said at three times! I'm trying to get away from it But you weren't... you told me to call YOU out. I never told you to call ME out All right No, that's right Well let me then just... I'm trying to stop saying it too. I said it twice in this show

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David Wolman The End of Cash, Gates Foundation Digital Currency

Author David Wolman discusses his book "The End of Cash," arguing that physical currency is the "enemy of the poor" and facilitates crime. Backed by Gates Foundation research, Wolman promotes mobile phone banking in developing nations like India as a superior alternative to cash. The hosts reject the thesis as elitist and a step toward total government control of transactions.

david wolman· the end of cash· gates foundation· digital currency· india· mobile banking

2:42:38 And you didn't notice either one? Yes, I've recorded your gaffes. Here we go! I have always been running the mailings that we do We run the mailings through MailChimp and MailChimp... MailChimp actually goes to MailChimp then again comes from MailChimp Duh! Mail Delivery Service MailChimp... MailChimp... MailChimp was burdened or something So I killed that That got me spammed yes and here's what my explanation is by reverse engineering the process Mail Chimp's Mail Chimp. I write, alright? I say mail chimp a lot so uh I've got a couple of clips from this David Wolman who wrote the he is a wired writer who wrote the book The End of Cash Oh And it's a bunch of anti money memes that are just really weird and his basic thesis He went a year without using cash as some sort of an experiment to see if you could do it oh It sounds like a good book for the Book Club

2:43:38 It's not a good book. He wants everyone to be electronically plugged in, there should be no cache! No I know that's why you gotta read it Yeah it's a good book to read of course it is But he had... unfortunately his clips are so long and I want to push them off till Sunday Oh let's play one Come on I like it Play the first one then Well, what's the first one? Long clip full of rich memes. Just for an hour but three days so I live on the west coast people... Stop stop stop! A warning and a warn everybody in JC notices too this guy who's got rosy cheeks sounds like he's breathing helium and this is his voice

2:44:15 just for an hour but three days so I live on the west coast people have earthquake preparedness kits and the Red Cross will tell you have some cash on hand and have some low value bills in your stash. And i love this idea of a cashless future, im interested in it, spent a whole year not touching cash but you know Im not gonna follow that recommendation what to have my emergency preparedness kit...not quite yet But what your seeing is is really that cash is undergoing this kind of death by a thousand cuts, right? And we don't know if it's cut number 890 or 952 just yet but its happening and it won't be any kind of proactive decision on the part of government or anyone really. It will be pushed to the margins by new technologies so area one is new technologies and mobile phone especially So in part of the book

2:45:09 I traveled to India to look at this idea. It was something that I never had any understanding of before I launched into this project and this is the idea that cash is actually the enemy of the poor, and it's most punitive for those people who don't have much of it And it sounded so counterintuitive at first that I needed to follow around an economist from the Gates Foundation and get him to explain it to me clearly. But in short, you know the issue is for those of us lucky enough to live in a wealthier country and earn a paycheck we can toggle between money in electronic form and money in its physical form as we see fit. I don't like cash that much. I didn't use it very much if you really like using cash and want to wander to an ATM tonight newscasts to pay for dinner terrific

2:45:54 When you're poor and you're trapped only using cash, you are excluded from the formal economy in ways that are crippling. And they're especially crippling because you can't brace for financial shock You can't save in the way that people need to save if they have any hope of not just climbing out of poverty but staying out of poverty. And what's happening now is a lot of development experts are encouraging this idea to get people transacting with their phones so that they don't need the cash. for the death of cash. I'm gonna read this so you have w-o-l m a n yeah he is a big proponent of using your phone as the cat, as a wallet Yeah sure at the end of money is what it's called The end of money that was in the cash and whatever I'm going to buy it right now on my kindle which will be the end of books by the way And so uh this guy is

2:46:55 Wow. Proposing this idea based on the Gates Foundation that cash should be over with, or money and everything should be electronic and this is somehow going to help the poor. Yeah I guess... Cash is the enemy of the poor? What the hell was that?! Yeah he says cash is the enemy of the poor and if they would just use their expensive smartphones Instead of cash they'd be better off. I mean this whole thing is reeks of elitism and and it's a fascism And there's a second clip if you want to play it which he brings out even more this bullcrap This is which one or Wollman all right? This guy's very interesting I just bought the book on my Kindle hand in a tea canister stuffed under a bed

2:47:43 Not only is all of your wealth however much or however little you know that could be lost overnight in a flood or fire Earthquake the other problem. Is that everyone around? You was making claims on that money that you are trying to save right so for us We cling to cash a little bit more because these tricks it plays on our mind For the poor, it's actually opposite cash is turbo liquid they can't hold onto it. You can't hold onto it because a drunk uncle is making claims on that cash or an abusive spouse is making claims on that cash and usually, parenthetically in developing parts of the world it's the women who are looking after the household funds. So those are the most terrible examples of people making claims on your money but then you even have legitimate ones so you have a neighbor who needs some aspirin for an auntie or somebody needs a new pair of shoes for their kid

2:48:35 It's pretty, it's hard to say no especially in a very tight-knit urban slum for example. And yet you're trying to save to send the daughter to school in 10 months or to buy some farm equipment in 15 months and you can't save cash easily So everyone is trying to get these people involved in banking not in the sort of abusive Wall Street CDO's sense of banking just the old-fashioned stuff a safe and secure place to store your wealth so The Gates Foundation folks, you know They've put five hundred million dollars last year into these programs to support innovation In this area and I flew to India to interview a guy To see what this was like how had this changed his life?

2:49:13 And he said to me, you know used to have to ride the bus two days there two days back to go deliver a very small amount of money To his grandmother in the countryside. So that's four days of income generation loss He has to pay someone to look after her shop The wealth that maybe is still hidden somewhere in his shop is now in jeopardy All right so now he basically just sends a text message to His granny and the countryside and she wanders through a kiosk where the merchant is essentially part of this huge network of merchants involved in the system and she shows the text, and there's some quick back-and-forth and she can cash out. And, you know I asked him about all the security concerns that I think a lot of you will maybe wonder about and he just looked at me like i was from Mars. Like are you kidding? Did you even listen to what I just said in the value proposition of this whole deal so that was pretty illuminating and suddenly it pulled me into much more substantive area discussion You know I like talking about germs on banknotes and I like talking about wishing my barista was grabbing some hand sanitizer not the rest of it

2:50:13 Now so when the global financial system melts down and you can't get, or the cyber attacks take place. And this guy's on the street with no cash I will poop on him Hey, I'm sure you notice that he's an elite. I mean if you listen first He's a neat freak because he has to have everyone's hands washed all the time And I can see why doesn't like money cuz it's dirty yeah, but he said auntie oh Yeah Who says that douchebags? Introduction in this book on Christmas Eve two thousand is the first page and what the irony by the way I bought his book without cash

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Bjorn Ulvaeus Cashless Sweden, Financial Surveillance Concerns

ABBA member Bjorn Ulvaeus has become a vocal advocate for a cashless society in Sweden following his son's robberies. Sweden currently uses only 3% cash, the lowest in Europe. The hosts argue that eliminating cash removes the last vestige of financial privacy and gives the state absolute control over the population's ability to transact.

bjorn ulvaeus· abba· sweden· cashless society· bank of america· surveillance

2:50:51 On Christmas Eve 2009, Umar Farooq Amutala began the journey he thought would take him from this world into the next and into a waiting embrace of six dozen virgins. Because he paid $2381 in cash and purchased a one-way ticket from Lagos Nigeria to Detroit He said if this had... If he had not been able do that with cash then he never would have been able light his crotch on fire. That's the start up the book! What a specious argument that's the start of the book ah Do you know the douchebag? He needs a double douche bag yeah, I'll just do the double And one more for you You know I had this in the show knows a few weeks back. Well get the Get the article. I think I can get it from search and a shown oz calm The guy from ABBA

2:51:44 I think it's Bjorn or Benny. Let me think who it was... Here we go, it's Bjorn Olveas founding member of ABBA let me just bring up this is how cool the show notes work that's actually quite awesome here it is Sweden was the first European country to introduce banknotes in 1661. Now it's come farther than most on the path towards getting rid of them, quote I can't see why we should be printing bank notes at all anymore says Bjorn Ulvaeus former band member of 1970s pop group ABBA and a vocal proponent for a world without cash The contours is such as society are starting to take shape in this high-tech nation Frustrating those who prefer coins and bills over digital money Sweden

2:52:31 only uses 3% cash. They're almost done! They're almost done! Three percent is still too much if you ask Bjorn! A cashless society may seem like an odd cause for someone who made a fortune on money, money, money and other Abba hits but for Elvius it's a matter of security After his son was robbed for the third time he started advocating a faster transition to fully digital economy if only to make life harder for thieves Oh excuse me You know, douchebag. And I hated winner takes it all! I liked Dancing Queen though that was a good one Wow Yeah Sweden is almost done with cash yeah that's what their goal is yeah then the state has complete control over the citizens

2:53:23 Yeah, no freedoms whatsoever. There's nothing... Let me see- There is no pocketable if there is no actual you know something of value that you can use to make a transaction it has all be done electronically and goes through this entire system I'm not paranoid about this but as simple fact that the way government can control the population You control the purse strings Which is why gold and silver coins are good idea Any species is good Any what? species, anything whether it's gold silver or I'll take a hundred dollar bill any day over an electronic system that can screw me by either accident or the bankers or the government or anybody else in between. Or some mistake which how many times is the Bank of America make mistakes and when just simple accounts that people have they've got a simple account and they screw it up month after month

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Hot Pockets 2012 Tour, No Agenda Meetup Strategy

Adam Curry announces plans for the "Hot Pockets 2012" tour, traveling west of Austin in a Dodge Ram pickup. The tour will focus on listener-organized meetups of at least 50 people. The show concludes with a tribute to Ted Kennedy and a promotion for a "Book Guy" episode featuring Tom Merritt and Veronica Belmont.

hot pockets· dodge ram· trailer· meetups· austin· tom merritt· veronica belmont

2:54:14 Which brings me to the final topic for this program as far as I'm concerned. We went a little long, but of course we had a long donation segment so we want to make sure you get your value for value as always Hot Pockets 2009! Hot pockets! which is a great way for you to get us cash donations So Miss Mickey and I have decided the following We would definitely like to do this. We don't think that we want to do an RV as we did last year in fact I'm going to throw the beast What is it? I think she called it Stella for some reason my Dodge Ram 2002 pickup truck, I got new tires on it which that was a setback Tires are expensive dude especially for those big pickups well. I got some I got the 20s and

2:55:08 for $199 each, which is a pretty good deal I think. That's not bad Yeah it was the cheapest I could get that actually fit the truck So we're it has 176,000 miles on it But we believe that can certainly do another five easily without breaking down I'm afraid of taking Mickey's 99 Range Rover because if that breaks down on the road you're screwed. Yeah You're screwed. You can't get anything nobody can fix no one No One wants to fix it. I can't even can barely get a guy here in Austin to look at it yeah so we would be looking at a trailer and Not too big trailer. Yeah, it's fun yeah, no just a caravan what do you call it? What do you call the trailer trailer so if anyone has one in the Texas area that we can just latch on and We only really need a pooper a little sink and a bed I've already figured out that I can Do the show from the truck

2:56:02 from the back seat and I fold the front seats down and everything. It'd also be a lot of... Somebody's got to get a picture of that! Oh yeah, it's also handy because then we can pull up to wherever we're going to park and then we can just detach the truck and then we've got wheels cause that was a big problem during the last... Yeah you keep driving around town or you go to restaurant. You get into a little park and leave the trailer and off you go And we're gonna do it a little differently, so we'll do everything west of Austin. Because that's the furthest... The furthest we got on our last trip Everything west of Austin and will go all the way up north whatever you want But but the way is going to happen this year is by meetups So instead of us just driving around which we did last time without any plan You need to organize a meetup and if I wish to put a number on it like 50 people

2:57:00 Hundreds too much I think if you get 50 people's. I want to make sure we hit smaller spots Then we will put you on the route, and we'll drive by and we'll do a meetup so basically the entire trip will consist of Meetups in show locations That sound good to you John yeah however We can't do it until we have a trailer Well, you might be easier to get a trailer than it would be because a lot of people have trailers. Yeah and it has but it has to be something if you don't have a big one You're not talking about a big trailer. You're talking about a clunker Hey I wouldn't put my princess in the clunker No we're not talking about a clunker here John yeah, I'd love an Airstream yeah that would be cool That'll be cool

2:57:46 So that is the idea. You can reach me adam at curry dot com and miss Mickey would be mickey at curry dot com M I C K Y is how you can get a hold of her for meetup information, but we can't go anywhere without a trailer so thats what were looking for very exciting eh? Yeah and while your playing the outro music I might as well give you one more clip which is Ender Show Clip It's the final clip, it's the one. Let me just set it up. It is Ted Kennedy and I...it's called The Kennedy Way There was a lot of discussion about how lame all these Republicans are about supporting Romney and they're all milk toast

2:58:30 Here's the way, and they're just like okay we'll have to do it. Kennedy shows you how politicians really oughta operate He hated Obama and this is the way he supported him I'm proud to stand with them here today And offer my help Offer my voice Offer my energy My commitment To make Barack Obama The next president of the United States Big difference Isn't he dead? Yeah, yeah. Well probably from that speech. Alright we will be scouring the airwaves of the C-spans and all other douchebaggery channels and I'll be reading this book just to tell you what the plan is And we gotta find out more about this elite douche bag. And hold on to your cash don't listen to him

2:59:19 And we'll be back on Sunday to bring you another jam-packed episode of the No Agenda program. It is the best podcast in the universe, and we're very proud to bring it to you and appreciate your support through Dvorak.org slash NA Coming to you from Camp MoFo here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas In the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we were previously assured that medical marijuana would be okay in California but no way! The feds are cracking down I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back here on Sunday right here on No Agenda

3:00:02 And on the stream, The Book Guy has a special book guy episode at 9 o'clock Eastern time this evening with special guests Tom Merritt and Veronica Belmont. Adios mofos!