Episode 392 · Sunday, 18 March 2012

Shark Orgy

A viral filmmaker faces a public breakdown while the White House quietly expands executive seizure powers and the CIA eyes the surveillance potential of smart home appliances.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 392

About this episode

Jason Russell, the creator of the viral Kony 2012 video, was detained by San Diego police after witnesses reported him running naked through traffic. The erratic behavior of the Invisible Children co-founder follows a massive celebrity-driven media blitz featuring Rihanna and George Clooney, which critics argue provides political cover for expanded U.S. military presence in Central Africa. Clooney’s subsequent arrest at the Sudanese embassy in Washington, D.C., is characterized as a choreographed event designed to maintain media focus on the region ahead of his appearance on Meet the Press.

President Obama signed the National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order, granting cabinet secretaries the authority to seize control of food, energy, and transportation resources during both emergency and non-emergency periods. Meanwhile, CIA Director David Petraeus highlighted the data bonanza available through smart home devices like the Microsoft Kinect, linking the Internet of Things to the NSA’s massive new Utah data center. In Europe, the SWIFT banking network disconnected Iranian financial institutions, marking a significant escalation in economic warfare as the European Union moves toward a technocratic government that overrides national sovereignty.

CNN’s Aaron Burnett reported that global warming is causing horses to shrink and sharks to engage in aggressive procreation, a segment dismissed as sensationalist propaganda. In a lighter moment, a listener donation from Shannon Atkins explains her decision to fund independent media over her local NPR station’s bagel-thon fundraiser. The episode also features a look at a U.S. Army iPad app designed to help Afghan farmers diagnose sick chickens via remote USDA experts.


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CHAPTER 01 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 392 Introduction, Media Assassination Concept

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 392 of the No Agenda show on Sunday, March 18, 2012. Operating from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley, they define their mission as "media assassination." The hosts address a Reddit thread accusing them of racism regarding their pronunciation of China.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· media assassination· austin· silicon valley

00:00 Take a picture of the chicken and send it to Fresno State. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. In B, Sunday, March 18th, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination. This is episode 3, 9 or 2. This is no agenda. I'm wearing the controls on my dishwasher here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where I remain. And by the way, they stole my Saturday New York Times. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's crackpot and buzzkill. In the morning. Now what, a-holes? Is that the kids again in the neighborhood who did that? I have no idea. Those damn kids. I'm putting cameras up.

00:44 You need a rocking chair, man, and a shotgun. I got you kids calling the police. Exactly. Exactly. That's lame, man. When someone does that, when they steal your paper. I used to do it all the time. Really? Well, there's your karma. Yeah, I was gonna say, there's your karma. You deserve it. Well, it's Sunday there, John. In the morning to you. Sunday there, too. In the morning to you, Adam Curry. In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air. And I'm happy to see once again a whole bunch of human resources in the chatroom. NoAgendaStream.com, NoAgendaChat.net. Nice to have you all around. Groovy.

01:25 Charged up and ready to go as we have yet another two and a half hours at least of media assassination lined up for you And that is indeed what we do is media assassination And I'm looking at you person who accused me of being racist against China Chinese people Did you catch that one? He's like hey, man. I know what you're doing. He hates you that guy when you say China's that's like saying niggers. I'm like ah really How did, where did we even come up with that? Wasn't that because people in Congress were pronouncing it like that? The Chiners? Yeah, it was the Southerners. Yeah. If anything, we're making fun of China. We're making fun of China. The Chiners. It's a lot less wasted bandwidth by saying Chiners instead of Chinese. That's like two syllables. And I was just one. Yeah, you're a racist pig. Yeah, that would be me.

CHAPTER 02 / 30 Discussion

Jason Russell, Kony 2012 Creator Detained in San Diego

Jason Russell, the co-founder of Invisible Children and creator of the viral Kony 2012 video, was detained by police in San Diego, California. Witnesses reported Russell running through traffic naked and screaming. Footage allegedly shows Russell engaging in public masturbation and erratic behavior, which his charity attributed to the emotional toll of the video's sudden fame.

jason russell· kony 2012· invisible children· san diego· joseph kony

02:23 So you did you see it? Did you see that whole reddit thing he made? Yeah Like really Wow. Oh, well something there's some some people out there that don't don't get it Well, they don't get it. Well, that's probably true. They don't get the joke man. Hey, dude, how cool was that? Cody dude, how cool is that? Kony guy flipping out? I have the best clip of that could find did you see the seven-minute version? Oh No, but played by Coney dude goes berserk and there's a little tell me at the way Tell me if you can deconstruct this this came from Al Jazeera. So it's from overseas, right? Yeah, tell if you can deconstruct where supposedly he started masturbating

03:04 The man behind the popular online video calling for the arrest of Ugandan rebel leader Joseph Kony has been detained and taken to hospital in the US. Jason Russell and his charity Invisible Children made the film Kony 2012. Witnesses say he was seen naked and screaming at drivers in San Diego in California. His group says the controversy surrounding the video has taken an emotional toll on Russell. Several residents in the neighborhood were very concerned about a male that they described as a white male in his late 20s that was acting strangely. There were various stages of undress that were described, that he was wearing underwear, that he was naked, that kind of thing. That he was running into the roadway, that he was interfering with traffic, screaming and that kind of thing.

03:51 officers responded to the welfare check, did contact the man and he was no problem for the police department. However, during the evaluation with him, we did learn that we probably needed to take care of him. So the officers detained him and transported him to a local medical facility for further evaluation and treatment. Hold on, let me do that kind of thing. I'm doing that kind of thing right now. That kind of thing. So what do you know? I don't think don't you did you hear when you think the transition was? I think that he was running around naked like a nut. Well, did you see? And then when they arrested him and brought him in for questioning, I think that's when he started to masturbate. Because if no, no, no, no, no. If you look at the seven minute version.

04:34 And granted it's hard to tell if it's him because it's a it's shot out of a window So, you know, you don't know for sure but it fits all the descriptions of what is you know? What everyone agrees he was doing was running around naked doing weird stuff. I mean he's literally there's like seven cars and he jumps from rooftop to rooftop to rooftop and he falls on the ground and then a neighbor comes out and pops him in the head, but it's But at the beginning of that video, he literally sits on the back of a car on a trunk, spreads his legs wide and is jerking off. But more like a, look at me, look at me. Not like trying to achieve anything. I didn't see that. Okay, you win. Oh yeah, it's a real winner. Trust me.

CHAPTER 03 / 30 Discussion

Rihanna, Celebrity Involvement in Kony 2012 Campaign

Singer Rihanna appeared on Access Hollywood to promote the Kony 2012 movement and her involvement with the Invisible Children foundation. She expressed a desire to use her 14 million Twitter followers to spread awareness and mentioned plans to visit Uganda. The discussion characterizes her involvement as part of a broader celebrity-driven propaganda effort.

rihanna· invisible children· kony 2012· access hollywood· twitter

05:17 So what's the deal? What do you think? This is a besides being a distraction. We know that's oh, yeah What the controversy surrounding the video except that it's that his numbers are bogus. Well, there's a couple well, so there's a couple things First of all, I feel I feel bad because if you look into his history and his wiki page by the way is pretty much clean You know, there's nothing on it really but if you go back and you look at the invisible children website, you'll see that since 2003 This guy has been trying to, he comes from a show business family, he studied in dance, he's basically been trying to be a celebrity famous and he's really like a Disney kid. So, you know, like MKUltra type stuff, you know, he has the Justin Bieber haircut.

06:02 Have you seen any of the videos where they do like he's in the band doing the choreographed dancing with a like a Britney Spears type thing? Yeah, I did see that. That's sad. You know, that's like that's like pathetically sad. And what I think is that because, you know, I think that the clues lie in what Clooney is doing and how he's responding to that. That's what I think is really where we see that this was not supposed to happen. There's basically two ways you can go in quote unquote Hollywood three ways You can go the way that George Clooney does it which is he's distanced himself from the hookers and the and the drugs and the crap and And he's just not falling for that so he's on a much much higher level, but he still has to do what they want him to do if he wants to you know stay George Clooney and

06:57 So he said, you know, I'm going to change this. I'm going to make it high tech. I'm going to go in there. I'm going to do the movie in the desert. Then you have the Lady Gagas and actually Rihanna. Unfort- did you- I can't believe I'm saying this but she was on Access Hollywood. The what? Oh yeah I know, I know. Well it caught my eye I'm like Rihanna about Kony on Access Hollywood I gotta listen to this. Now the last time we saw Rihanna in public was when she was doing an exorcism you know half a day after Whitney Houston died and everyone celebrated that at Clive Davis's Illuminati party

07:38 And, you know, it was a pretty weird thing she was doing there at the Grammys and to this day no one has come up with an explanation. What the hell is that? She says she has an alter ego. She's got this kid inside of her and she's twisted. So she's clearly there to promote Kony on Access Hollywood because the interviewer, three minutes before I cut out this little piece, like, well, you're doing a film, right? You're doing a film, right? And of course, Rihanna's too stupid. She's doped up or whatever. And finally she comes out and she talks about what she's going to be doing. So she is part of the, uh, basically the, the Jason, you know, the Jason Russell side of doped up celebrities who are, uh,

08:18 uh... on board with the program to stay famous and now she's joined twitter just to help the cause and for to get the youth involved with something like that i'd love to be i'd love to be an outlet something that can help spread the word even if it's to the fourteen million fans on twitter I'd love to do that and the Kony 2012 Foundation, the Invisible Children camp is such a powerful strong message and it's something that I really want to get involved in not just on the surface but I want to get my hands really dirty with that. Oh yes, John, she wants to get her hands really dirty in this. Now you have my interest re-armored. That project so I'm planning on going to Uganda later on this year

CHAPTER 04 / 30 Discussion

George Clooney, John Prendergast Congressional Testimony on Sudan

Actor George Clooney testified before Congress regarding the humanitarian crisis in Sudan, accompanied by activist John Prendergast. The analysis suggests Prendergast acts as a handler for Clooney during public appearances. Clooney's subsequent arrest at the Sudanese embassy is characterized as a staged photo opportunity designed to maintain media focus on Africa.

george clooney· john prendergast· darfur· sudan· congress

09:02 Even if it's for a day or two, just... I got my hands really dirty. I'm gonna stay in the hotel for a day or two and I'm probably gonna, you know, like go on the little safari, the organized trip and go talk to some kids for the film. To really spend some time with the victims and really suss out the whole situation and possibly make a film because I know you... Make a film? You're gonna make... Come on, talk about the film! That's why I got the camera here, make the film! Absolutely. Invisible Children... Suss? Did she say suss? She's out Well, she's from Barbados. She says all kinds of weird stuff. There's a funny one coming up I've also been reaching out to me about doing a film Wow so they've been reaching out to me It's something that I would love to do and that's why I really want to go to Uganda so we can really I want to make it mine I want to make it something fresh. I want to make it something new

09:53 I'll make it fresh. I don't get something new something. We've never seen before let me think how about this for a script Celebrity with black children. Yeah, that's fresh Rihanna. That's gonna be great You can tweet about it all day But something very very powerful and something that speaks to the youth and the people of the world And that would come out later this you said you were going there possibly later on this year Wow It can't be past this year. This year has only just started. No, because past this year would be too late. We gotta get the troops in. AFRICOM's gotta go this year. We have to do what we can right now. Regardless of the backlash, a lot of people associate Invisible Children with finding Connie.

10:33 Getting corny famous is not really about corny himself. Oh Really government is dealing with that. Oh Obama has signed on to helping with that so that's completely out of our hands. No. He's on right now What I'm really interested in and what? I'm working with invisible children on is really helping the victims. There are thousands, there's so many people and children. Oh, the children. Yeah, children. Okay. So that's it. You know, first of all, I think the other thing you forgot to mention is that Clooney is smart enough or maybe he doesn't have a choice

11:11 to have a handler with him at all times. In fact, when he went before Congress, if you saw it on C-SPAN, he's given this exact same speech that he had rehearsed on various talk shows. And there he was sitting in front of Congress and right next to him... Pendergrast. Pendergrast. Right next to him. Always right next to him. Well, so here's how I know that this was... So this kid is Jason. And again, I'm just gonna feel bad for him because he's on the level of a Rihanna-type mind-controlled idiot. He freaked out and so you know, what do you think he freaked out over whatever drugs are given him, you know, I have reports Whatever I have reports that he's been like that. He's been ordering hookers, you know, this is like Hollywood

11:54 You know, gutter press type stuff. It's all going to come out. You watch. The guy was, you know, hookers left and right. And this was an LSD trip. Look, when I'm exhausted and I'm dehydrated, you have to see this long video. It's in the show notes, three nine or two dot LSD. Mean the guy I'm so totally gonna take some acid it was either like I think I'll smoke some PCP I mean it could and whatever it was it was definitely not just exhaustion. There's no way I mean the guy was like a superhero, and he you know the this other guys coming out He's knocking him in the face for jumping on his car. He's like screw you and he wasn't in his underpants He was naked let me say one other thing nice ass I have to admit the guy had a good-looking butt and

CHAPTER 05 / 30 Discussion

Fareed Zakaria, George Clooney Interview on GPS

George Clooney appeared on Fareed Zakaria's GPS to discuss the Kony 2012 video and its impact on U.S. policy. Zakaria cited a figure of 150 million views for the video, a number the hosts dispute as inflated or manipulated. The interview highlights how the viral campaign provides political cover for President Obama to maintain military forces in Central Africa.

fareed zakaria· george clooney· cnn· gps· joseph kony

12:38 You just make a note of that yeah So here's how I know that it wasn't supposed to happen because this is being brought up now in every single interview that Clooney is doing and Clooney's on GPS with our friend the antique anti-constitutional Farid Zakaria the Pakistani And when and this and I also saw him on meet the meet the press, but it wasn't interesting so I didn't clip that but when the question comes up and then Prendergrast jumps in to answer. So this is, you know, and you see Clooney looking over like, that's your cue man, I'm not supposed to talk about this, that one went wrong, I'm doing my job, I know what I'm supposed to do. So here it comes on Fareed Zakaria's show. Let me ask you about another war criminal. Another war criminal, huh? Coney. This video that's come out by now, I don't know, 150 million people. Now we have 150 million, it's amazing. And by the way, New York Times,

13:35 who just blatantly say, oh, 100 million people? What kind of fact-checking did they do on that? Did they call up YouTube? Or did they just look at the number and say, yep, there's gotta be 100 million right there. Does anyone really check these numbers? Or we just say, oh, it's okay, it says it right there. 100 million views must be right. So now it's 150, according to Fareed Zakaria. Even more people don't watch your movies. That means, wait a minute, that means every, it's such a ludicrous number It doesn't, like it doesn't make any logical sense. I mean if somebody gets 10 million views on YouTube, you know that's a lot. I mean that assumes an X number of people, percentage of the public in general. I mean there are, there are whole groups of people who never saw, just saying that every other person in the United States has watched this. Well they're looking at a global audience obviously so there's a little more. Okay the global audience which I still

14:30 I'm still very suspect of that because a lot of the, I mean I don't think they're watching this in South Korea, I doubt if they're watching it in China because they can't get YouTube in most of the areas. And most of the other parts of the world are all low, low in, I'd like to know what the US numbers are. This whole thing is a robot, it's bull crap. It's a great way to get attention though. It's very easy to just call up Google and say turn the switch, make it a hundred million. I mean that's easy. And by the way, show me the page that says 100 million. What's the current page say? Have you looked at it recently? No, I can do it right now. That's interesting actually. Let's see what it says. I don't even think it says 100 million. I think they're counting, you know, it's just made up. It's just made up. Kony 2012 YouTube. So this would be the official Invisible Children page.

15:19 Let me see if I can find it. 82 million views according to the official. So even if you go by the official number, Fareed Zakaria is full of crap with 150 million. But he only says that to slam George Clooney to say more people than have seen your movies, which I think is kind of cool. But then Prendergast will jump in to answer the question. I'm out by now. I don't know. 150 million people, even more people than watch your movies. Do you think that ultimately it'll make a difference because you've you've tried to focus your activism in very specific Targeted ways this feels a little bit more like the kind of catch-all activism. Let's do something about this Some of the things in the video are inaccurate that we don't have 30,000 child soldiers right? Oh, it's inaccurate now Oh, that's interesting, but the spirit now Prendergrass is looking at Clooney like I

16:08 Come on man, I'm supposed to jump in here. You know, it's obviously admirable this guy's a horrible person. Will it make a difference? Well, I'll tell you this. Unfortunately, the one thing you have to do is when you do these is you have to be, you have to try to be, if you're going to err, you have to make sure you err on the side of factualism. I love that. If you're going to err, make sure you err on the side of factual. This is where Prendergrass is shitting a brick. Is Clooney actually saying, I know he's messing it up, but isn't he actually saying, if you're gonna make a mistake, make a mistake on the facts? Isn't that what he just said? That's what it sounded like. Yeah, so Prendergrass is like, but Clooney's great, listen to what he does. As much as you possibly can.

16:49 Having said that, if 150 million people know his name now, that can only be good. It's only good, you know, the first thing we have to do, the first power we have is knowledge about this. You have to know about it and understand it, and then you get involved. I didn't know anything about Darfur until I read... Excellent, George. Pull it away from that. Go to Darfur. Nick Kristof's pieces on Darfur. I then got involved and you know, I think that's you have to have knowledge first. So I think it's a good move. What do you think? Shut up George! And Sikaria is good. And by the way, this is heavily edited. Sikaria is like, what do you think? Well, you know, President Obama sent

17:29 100 special forces to the region of Central Africa to help craft a counterinsurgency strategy to catch Joseph Kony a few months ago. It's an election year. People are criticizing him heavily for doing that. So this gives President Obama a great deal of political support to maintain the course. That boy, that was talking about a segue. Yeah, no, it was a huge hatchet job. He says, so this kid gave President Obama a huge amount of support. Of trying to bring an end to this insurgency. Yeah, it's not as bad as it was at the height when the Sudan government, by the way, the same government that's bringing us the new mountains, was supporting the largest army. So it's a very important thing to do to support this decision by the president.

18:16 These guys are good because they're moving the conversation away. Now it doesn't matter because we need to have stuff in Africa. It's all Africa. We need to have our, we need to basically kick the Chinas out of Africa no matter what. But they realized that this went horribly wrong and this was news on the interwebs. TMZ had it. All day, Friday, and not a single word on CNN. They were awaiting instructions. I mean, this kid was on CNN, Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, incessantly for a week. He freaks out, he's caught masturbating, he's slamming the pavement, he's running around like a lunatic, and no one says anything until they get the memo? Please! That's insulting! And then, of course, Clooney

CHAPTER 06 / 30 Discussion

George Clooney Arrest, Meet the Press Appearance

George Clooney was arrested during a protest at the Sudanese embassy in Washington, D.C., an event that preceded his appearance on Meet the Press. Reports indicate Clooney sat with White House advisor Valerie Jarrett during a recent state dinner for David Cameron. The arrest is described as a highly choreographed media event rather than a standard law enforcement action.

george clooney· meet the press· valerie jarrett· white house· sudan

19:05 It was like this, he's angry because this is ruining his whole deal that he was, that he set up in Washington. He had a whole week completely set up, ready to go rock and roll. And MSNBC, the most truthful reporting I've ever seen. They cut live because of course the trucks were there, the press was there. I mean, you know, and the cops are waiting for everyone to get their shot before they put on the little plastic handcuffs. But listen to the voiceover never a truer Sentence spoken booming and I'm pretty confident of this that he'll be able to get himself out of jail if he is taken to jail He is going to be on meet the press. Oh, wait. He's gonna be on meet the press. It's a little promo But there we see him. He's actually handcuffed walking over

19:53 We don't know if there's trespassing charges involved here or exactly what's going on. But they knew, I think, going on because this is private property that there was a chance that they would get arrested, that they would get handcuffed, that they would actually be charged. Obviously a very interesting kind of photo op having said that George Clooney has spoken very eloquently in the past about the power of celebrity and his feeling that it's incumbent upon him for all the success that he's had and all the money that he's made to use that celebrity in a positive way in the way that some of his close friends like Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have done with their own work. Angelina Jolie obviously as a UN ambassador

20:41 And the Sudan is a crisis that he really believes needs to get a lot of attention. Yeah, exactly. Absolutely true. A photo op to get attention along with your other shills so that we can get on Meet the Press and look really interesting and talk about it. And this is what cracked me up. So they actually push him through the cameras and they let him stop. They let him stop and say a couple words to each camera crew along the way. It's not like a real arrest. It was so fake, so phony. And so we know that he was, he met with President Obama.

21:20 Then he went to the state dinner for Cameron where all night he sat, according to reports, with Valerie Jarrett, my favorite woman in the entire world. So she probably was scheming with him. She probably set it all up. My understanding is he was sitting next to Michelle. Well then Valerie Jarrett was there. Maybe. My understanding is he was talking to Valerie Jarrett all night. And then this is what he says when the question is posed to him about his meeting with the president. It's 78 years old, never been arrested before. Did you talk to the president about the possibility of this happening? No, no, this was something completely different. No, no, not at all. Wait, wait, how old did he say he was? No, it's his dad. His dad is 78. Oh, yeah. Now, there's no possibility. No, no. I was talking about this is something else. What are you talking about with the president then? The next caper? I mean, please.

22:15 Please, so this was not meant to happen, but this happens. This happens to these doped up MKUltra kids. They freak out. And yeah, I mean, and by the way, long time since I've read in the press of a 5150. Yeah, I saw that they use the word, they use the 5150. Explain that. Well, it just happens to be a part of the... It's actually part of the... At least in California, it's part of the penal code. It's actually section 5150 of something or other. It's one of the statutes. But he was in Washington, D.C. So is that only in California? The 5150 wasn't mentioned. It was only... No, in California is the only place I know where you have 5150. Oh, no, the guy was in San Diego. Or 5051 or whatever it's called. 5150. 5150. Now, the guy was in San Diego. Yeah, right. Yeah.

23:04 So it just means you know you're psycho you're psycho and you might say you might harm yourself or others. Yeah, so I haven't seen that in a long time in the press. So you know and then you know at the it's probably code. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah for MK ultra. Hey, MKUltra is real. I mean, the government has admitted that. You know, if you watch the news lately, they're admitting to all kinds of stuff now. Yeah, you know, we shot vaccines, experimental vaccines into the troops and Bill Clinton even apologized for testing citizens, you know, testing drugs on citizens. This isn't, this is not, you know, yeah, we think, oh, it can't happen. That's not real. Oh, you crackpot. But it's admitted.

23:52 So why not dope this kid up? He certainly looks like a dope. Anyway, I'm very gay for George Clooney right now because I have to say, wow, wow, he looked good. I want his love children. Make a note of that. You should note that you really can't get pregnant. I just want to wake up in the villa. at Lake Cuomo with George and make pasta and have... It's getting closer people. Have espressos. God, that guy is so good looking. I bet you... Is there a height on the wiki page? I bet she's tiny. I bet she's not my height. I'm sure he's not your height. Well then that sucks. He's probably about 5'8", 9', 5'10". Yeah, 5'10". I'm guessing 5'10". Maybe 5'11 with lifts. Yeah, that's a bummer. Because he's a handsome man.

CHAPTER 07 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Executive Producer Donations, Technical Infrastructure

The hosts acknowledge executive producers Roberto and Sir James Briscoe for their financial support. They discuss the show's technical infrastructure, including the use of Amazon S3 and the challenges of being blocked in certain regions like Korea. John Dvorak explains that his IP address, managed by Mark Perkel, is sometimes flagged due to hosting radical websites.

roberto· james briscoe· shawn longworth· no agenda nation· mark perkel

24:41 Mean come on. He looks he looks awesome doesn't he with that beard? I don't know come on do anything for me. Oh, all right well It does for me well speaking of 5150. I think we have a number of people who have supported our program Well, we only have two actually oh Carryover from this Eric's operation at the he has a note on uh... five hundred we had to executive producers five hundred dollars from uh... uh... no agenda nation and this is supposed to be credited to roberto for working toward and being the first puerto rican night well that's something else what happened to your new shirt at no agenda nation so i don't know and i don't know that we've well maybe don't have a puerto rican i don't know we have a list of support a real well in the chat room i guess you know uh... okay

25:36 We should. Yeah, you'd think. And then we have Sir James Briscoe who came up from Bayshore, New York with 43445. And I'm looking at that going, not sure why that number is that way it is. He's had a huge influx of karma and money that he doesn't need or deserve, so he's giving it to you guys to save Mr. Curry from the dreaded sales video. Too late. Yeah, it's already done. It's in the bag. Thanks. Instead, please redirect my karma and love derived from the donation and fuel any extra karma to the love of my life, Smita.

26:13 She will definitely need it way more than I ever will and please credit this executive producership hopefully to another listener. I managed to snag my cousin Sean Longworth. You get a kick out of it. And finally, please give my mother a birthday shout out for the 20th and for selling pipeline equipment. It's a growth business I hear. So those are our two executive producers. We don't have any associate executive producers this week. Somebody could have snuck in quite easily but they didn't. I got to do the karma. Hold on a second. You've got karma. There you go. Yeah, no associate execs. Yeah, that was pretty slender pickings today. Don't want to remind people to help us pick up the slack here at noagendashow.com, noagendanation.com, dvorak.org slash NA. dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah, and also the alternative site channeldvorak.com slash NA if you live in Korea and my site seems to be blocked.

27:18 Yeah. By the way. Well that's because you're uncensored. They don't like that word. No, I changed it. It's not what it is. Yeah, but once you're blocked, you're blocked, friend. No, no, no. That's not what it is. I know what it is. It's all the naked chicks? No, it's no naked chicks. What's the problem my the IP I go through which is run by? Right computer time down in Mark Perkel who I who gets who sets up the I get no spam operation. Yeah, he has a slew of Radical websites. Oh, yeah, that'll do pretty much. Oh demanding that the overthrow was this government with that government and

27:56 Thanks. Oh good. Can I get my own IP? Can I get an account? That sounds good. Get on Amazon S3, man. That's the way to go. It's easy. So thank you very much glad we were able to get some kick back there from Noah Jenna nation calm and of course to Sir James Briscoe we're going to credit Shawn Longworth then I guess with with this executive producership It's lean folks. We need a little more help than this, but thank you so much for Sean Sir Sean for your contribution and You can always do one thing which is bring in more listeners expose them I know it's hard But if you if you see that little crack in the door then drive your wedging as soon as possible and then start calling them I was a douchebag until they donate that's how it works. And of course, you can go out and propagate our formula Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth You know you are one shut up sleep

CHAPTER 08 / 30 Discussion

National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order

President Obama signed the National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order on a Friday afternoon. The order delegates broad authority to cabinet secretaries to seize control of food, water, energy, and transportation resources under both emergency and non-emergency conditions. The text includes provisions for the Secretary of Labor to appraisal the nation's workforce, which the hosts interpret as a framework for a potential draft.

barack obama· executive order· national defense· department of labor· agriculture

29:06 I actually have quite a New World Order segment I want to do, as I discovered a couple of disturbing things. But first of all, of course, you know, John, you and I are trained. When we see something like this, even though it didn't hit the news channels, the alternative media was of course loving the Coney, you know, naked butt masturbation video. And that's when, and it was a Friday too, you know, and you always want to release the crap on Friday. That's the best way to do it, right? Yeah, absolutely. Because that way you got a weekend to either ignore it or deal with it. So, and a new executive order came out on Friday. Yeah, this one is extremely disturbing.

29:58 And I have not seen anything about this on the press anywhere. It is the National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order. And this thing is, it's a monster. This is not like a little, you know, usually these things are, you know, because Iran is still Iran and because I only have 90 days, I got to re-up our state of emergency. You know, it's kind of like that. It's like a kind of a thing you just do, right? But this is one of these, I'm announcing some policy and I'm going to make it really confusing. I don't want to put it in really English and I want to refer to all kinds of different laws and no one in the world except that guy from MTV might actually have the patience to go and look and see what it means. So I will read the most significant summation and then some parts of this which are concerning to say the least. So this is a delegation of authority, the president's authority and as you know

30:54 President Obama thinks he has a lot of authority and in this defense resources preparedness executive order He says look the following people are are going to be a part of this. Secretary of State, Treasury, Defense, Attorney General, Secretary of the Interior, Agriculture, Commerce, Labor, Health and Human Services, Transportation, Energy, Homeland Security, National Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Council of Economic Advisors, Administration of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, and the Administrator of General Services. That pretty much is everybody you need if you really want to take over the country. What about NSA? I didn't hear that.

31:33 Well, Department of Homeland Security, who does NSA report to? They don't report to them. Defense? Well, I don't know. It's a good question who they report to. Director of National Intelligence. No, that's not the NSA. That's that guy, that middleman. Who does the NSA report to? Let's find out. Consult the Book of Knowledge. And I'll read this to you. The secretary of each agency, that whole list, Delegated authority under subsection a of the section resources department shall plan for and issue regulations to prioritize and allocate resources and establish standards and procedures by which the authority shall be used to promote the national defense under both emergency and non-emergency conditions. It's Department of Defense. Yeah.

32:20 Each secretary shall authorize the heads of other agencies, as appropriate, to place priority ratings on contracts and orders for materials, services, and facilities needed in support of programs approved under Section 202 of this order. In other words, get your act together. Here's some stuff you gotta do. Let me read you a couple of interesting things. For Secretary of Agriculture, here's the marching orders. With respect to food resources, food resource facilities, livestock resources, veterinarian resources, plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment and commercial fertilizer, you shall... Oh wait, let me give you the... Oops, I'm sorry, my notes are a little messed up here. Why am I... I'm sorry, I messed that up.

33:18 I'll come back to that. Let me do Secretary of Labor. My nose got upside down. Secretary of Labor in coordination with the Secretary of Defense and the heads of other agencies as deemed appropriate by the Secretary of Labor shall collect and maintain data necessary to make a continuing appraisal of the nation's workforce needs for purposes of national defense. Hmm. Upon request the director of selective service and in coordination with the Secretary of Defense assistant director of selective service in development of policies regulating the induction and deferment of persons for duty in the armed services. Remember this is for emergency and non-emergency situations. Sounds like a draft to me. Upon request from the head of the agency with authority under this order consulting with the agencies the effect of contemplated actions on labor demand and utilization

34:11 will assist in making the exercise of priority and allocation functions consistent with effective utilizations and distribution of labor." So what they're saying here, the way I read this, is get ready to draft people, find out how many people we have, who's eligible, so that we can then take the labor force and turn them into armed forces. A slave labor force. Yes, a slave labor force, exactly. The Secretary of Transportation will have complete control over all forms of civil transportation. Secretary of Health and Human Services shall take control of all hospitals, all facilities. Secretary of Defense with respect to water resources commands complete control over all water in the United States.

35:00 and the Secretary of Commerce has complete control over all material services and facilities as it pertains to construction materials. And this is a very big document, but it basically is saying, get ready, you guys are in charge of everything, and get ready for a complete takeover of all of these services, and we're not talking government services, we're talking, you know, the transportation of food. Now why is this happening? Are we expecting something? I mean, someone should at least ask the question. I would ask the question if I was in the White House press pool. Yeah, well no question came up. Of course this was released after any press conferences on Friday. And of course, you know, Coney came out and everyone's looking at the other way. So what's this order number? This is executive order... hold on a second. I'm gonna scroll up here.

36:03 It doesn't have a number. I can give you the name of it. I usually have a number that may not be put in the register yet It's national defense resources preparedness and it is By authority vested me as president of the Constitution blah blah blah the Defense Production Act of 1950 but that but that one paragraph saying each secretary of the agencies is delegated this authority under both emergency and non-emergency conditions, essentially says, the Secretary of Labor, you can go and draft anybody you need whenever you want. This doesn't, obviously doesn't seem constitutional, but these guys certainly think it is. Well, yeah, I mean, but we need to figure out why this was signed off in the first place. There's something weird about the whole thing.

CHAPTER 09 / 30 Discussion

NSA Data Center, Smart Home Surveillance Concerns

CIA Director David Petraeus spoke at an In-Q-Tel summit about the "bonanza" of data available through smart home devices and the Internet of Things. The discussion links this to the massive data center the NSA is constructing in Utah. Concerns are raised regarding the Microsoft Kinect and other connected devices being used to profile citizens by monitoring their homes and reading habits.

nsa· david petraeus· in-q-tel· facebook· microsoft kinect

37:02 And of course we both got, I'm sure, all the notes on the giant facility the NSA is building. I think that's it. Whenever it comes out through Wired, I'm suspicious. Yeah, they came out, it's been, yeah, I can see that. They're building something and it's in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, but it's on 2nd Street in San Francisco. Who gives a crap? You know, this... No, that's just our facility. They're talking about a big code-breaking operation. I know, I know. But, you know, so what? They just go to Facebook. Well, that's the other thing that came out, which I think is also a distraction, but, you know, what's-his-face Petraeus was at a summit for In-Q-Tel.

37:51 In-Q-Tel is the Silicon Valley venture capital firm which was started by the CIA. It is their venture capital firm and they were one of the early investors in Facebook and he says, you know, hey we got a it's a bonanza. Because all these new online devices which give all kinds of great Data or a treasure trove of data if you're a person of interest to the spy community I wish I had a video of this once upon a time spies had to place a bug in your chandelier to hear your conversation With the rise of the smart home you'd be sending tag Geo located data with the that a spy agency can intercept in real time when you use the lighting app on your phone to adjust your living rooms ambience

38:36 Items of this guy is crazy items of interest will be located identified monitored and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio frequency identification sensor networks tiny embedded servers tiny energy harvesters all connected to the next generation internet that by the way Bing Bing next generation internet using abundant low-cost high-power computing the latter now going to cloud computing. That's fantastic It's a bonanza. My penis is hard right now now, of course What's interesting about this... He used the word it's a bonanza? No, but I'm paraphrasing. What's interesting of course is that all the wire tapping laws don't necessarily say you can't check to see what someone's dishwasher is doing or who knows what, or your Kinect.

39:33 Right I keep miss so funny miss Mickey keeps saying I want to have the connect I want to do all the yoga and all the jumping in front of the television I say he will never get married. It'll be an instant divorce that thing is never coming into my house you want to put Three cameras in my house. Are you insane? Are you absolutely they can use that thing? to pretty much identify every article in the room and I mean there's been a couple studies showing that the Kinect can be used to first like if it's in your room it looks at the bookshelf and sees what books you're reading this is all theory but there's been talk about it.

40:10 You can look and see what all the books are you reading and then it can do do it can profile you in such a way that again we can deliver these bogus targeted advertisements which I the more I'm Hearing and seeing about this. Yeah, the more targeted advertising we're not blowing eye rolling it. Yeah, I agree, but I'm sure that they can identify what books you've got on the bookshelf. Mm-hmm And if some creep was running, you know, some security business and say, hey, this guy's got a bunch of Karl Marx on his bookshelf. Oh God. Mickey! Clean out the bookshelf! Well, of course, the joke is, and this is why I think it's a distraction, it's because they don't need that. You know, just subpoena Amazon. Let's see what books he was reading. What books did he order? I mean, that's the big joke. I'm not buying any more books for my Kindle. I'm gonna go down to a second-hand bookstore and get something. I mean, it's...

CHAPTER 10 / 30 Discussion

Commercial Mobile Alert System, T-Mobile Emergency Texts

T-Mobile has implemented the Commercial Mobile Alert System (CMAS), a public safety system allowing FEMA and other agencies to send emergency text-like messages to wireless devices. The system categorizes alerts into three types: Presidential, Imminent Threat, and Amber Alerts. The technology uses cell tower triangulation to target specific geographic regions without requiring GPS.

t-mobile· cmas· fema· amber alerts· presidential alerts

41:09 But there is a make even if you Amazon does tell him. Oh, let me bottom his gifts. Yeah, your communist buddies That's right for my anyway, this is and the fact that this is not being questioned or you know Why is this and it you know? It's an executive order that delegates the authority of the president to all the secretaries to take over everything private in their portfolio and you know, I don't just brush that off candy Crowley And then while I'm reading this, this is crazy, I get a text message from T-Mobile. We know what you're reading, Curry. T-Mobile has now joined the CMAS, the Commercial Mobile Alert System. Great. What does that even mean? Well, I shall read from their website.

42:01 It is a new public safety system for your protection that enables authorized agencies, unspecified, to send text-like messages. What is a text-like message? Just text message or text-like? I don't know what text-like, maybe it's upside down. To consumers with capable wireless devices to alert them of emergencies in their area. This is going to be such a pain in the ass. We're going to get like, oh, I lost my dog. Through the use of cell towers, C-Mess. It's an emergency. CMAS allows the Federal Emergency Management Agency to deliver emergency warnings to specific geographic regions. After receiving a warning, local cell towers broadcast a wireless alert to a dedicated receiver with an alert capable devices in the area. I.E. we know where you are. We're going to send you a message. So what type of alerts will CMAS deliver? This is a FAQ. Presidential alerts? Oh, like vote for me. Number two, imminent threats to life and property alerts.

43:03 And Amber Alerts. Yeah, this is Amber Alerts. Oh! That's such a pa- In California, every day. You'd be watching C-SPAN and all of a sudden... They can't seem to get the audio right on those amber alerts. Have you ever noticed that? I don't know where that comes from. What are they using old carbon mics from the 20s? It sounds like the guys in the server room and there's like a little buttonhole microphone and they have to push a button. It's like crazy. It's just nuts.

CHAPTER 11 / 30 Discussion

Osama Bin Laden, Rebranding Al-Qaeda Documents

The Washington Post published details from documents recovered during the Abbottabad raid on Osama Bin Laden's compound. Journalist David Ignatius reported that Bin Laden was concerned about Al-Qaeda's tarnished image and considered rebranding the organization. The documents allegedly describe a bureaucratic corporate structure with vacation policies and HR-style management.

osama bin laden· david ignatius· washington post· candy crowley· al-qaeda

43:42 So that's who will receive, do I need a GPS? No, no, no, you don't, because we know where you are. You don't need a GPS. So this is new and that's more reason to just give up phones. I mean, seriously, I mean, I don't need it when I'm going somewhere. I'll just take a Wi-Fi device and it's just crazy. So speaking of Candy, and I have a lot of respect for Candy Crowley. I've said that before. I like her. Yeah, she's a shill, but at least she's funny. So she has on Now this was amazing to me. There was a apparently this guy from the Washington Post David Ignatius Ignatius, do you know him? Yeah, I've yeah, I think it's Ignatius. I could be wrong. Is he hot? I don't know if he's hot. He's not hot. Well, you're going off the deep end. Talking about the guy's butt.

44:44 I'm just trying to break the ice. George Clooney, you want to be in bed with the guy? No, I didn't say that. I said I want to have his love child is very different. So he received documents about the Bin Laden, Abbottabad raid and the Washington Post. And he wrote a whole column about him. He said, oh, they'll be made. They're going to be declassified. They'll be made public soon. So this is obviously a PR job. Otherwise, why does the guy from The Washington Post get it? I mean, am I misunderstanding how it works in the... It's planted for a reason. The most transparent government ever in the universe.

45:23 I mean this is why you know there's certain writers that would always get the early look at the Apple products because they know you know they know exactly what they're gonna how they're gonna respond to it. So this is so it's hilarious. So first we have The way that they talk, so these are documents that were found at Bin Laden's compound in Abbottabad. Yeah, we've heard about these. Yeah, I mean we can't see a picture of the guy shot dead, but conveniently we've got all these great, great documents. So a couple of things come out of this and the first one is exactly what we've been saying for months, if not longer, about the corporate structure of Al-Qaeda that they reverse merged into Al-Shabaab and

46:04 You know they've been doing IPOs and all kinds of filing their s1 document They run like a big corporation and candy Crowley gets on board. I'm sure she's listening. Hey, baby. How you doing as you? Looked at these documents David what what just bounced out at you most I The most striking thing in these documents, and I should say that they provide an amazing opportunity to get inside the head of Osama Bin Laden. Or the script writers who wrote it. The most striking thing. Did he get a look at the original Arabic or was he looking at a translation?

46:45 It was every say it would get read Arabic. He says he was granted access to translations of the documents. So he's he does could be anything. Some anyone could write anything. Okay, go on. Well, that's, that's the point. The script writing section is next. This is funny, though. Striking thing was how worried he was that Al-Qaeda had tarnished its image so badly in the Muslim world by killing so many Muslims. Yeah, it was really bad for business. In the midst of its jihad against the United States that he wrote in one document, Al-Qaeda should change its name and rebrand itself.

47:25 Hey, this is bull crap. Hey, wait a minute. Did you get a memo from Al Qaeda about the rebranding strategy? I mean, this is a this is a job for us. This is transparent crap. This is horse manure. This is this is a job. There's no chance of any of this being true. This is a job for the Curry Dvorak Consulting Company. Hey, we can we can rebrand you. We'll get you a new logo. We'll get you like uniforms, we'll get you, you know, you need some hot chicks. Well, Candy Crawley picks up on it though. I found that fascinating. Al Qaeda leader brooding in his compound, isolated from all this brooding. I'm sure it was. Brooding. I'm here. I'm here brooding. He's watching cartoons. No, no, no. No, no, no.

48:05 no no no no he's watching CNN we'll get to that in a minute this is hilarious John. Colleagues clearly worried that that that his organization was going in the wrong direction. Oh my sales numbers are off you know we can't we can't do anything right we've got the shareholder meeting coming up. This is a good example of Western projection so you have a bunch of agencies and say what would it be like they're just imagining what you know they they just project their own way of doing business, lots of meetings, you know, this kind of analysis, that kind of analysis. And then they probably have one or two guys that used to be in business. Well, in our situation where you had to, we had to change the brand. And so they project all this on this idiot and then they, then they feed it back into the system and it gets bought. You know, they, you buy it because it's makes,

48:57 Some sort of weird sense when it doesn't make any sense. He was calling for morning scrum meetings Stand-up meetings, you know, we have to have a Monday morning meeting. We've really got it. We got to get our numbers back. I mean we got a rebrand Action items. Take the notes. Who has the meeting notes from last meeting? Alright. Now she picks up on it though. Peter, it's almost like a corporate, you're sort of treated like a corporation. Yes, thank you Candy. I love you, you Rubenesque woman, you. There was some talk about, you know, vice.

49:34 Amir's and this kind of thing did any of that is that sort of in keeping with it previously how he ran it? It's always been very bureaucratic Around a 36 pages they had vacation policies more generous than the vacation policy at CNN more generous than the vacation policy at CNN Vacation policies. Hey, yes, you could take your first year you can take a week and a half and then you have to blow yourself up I mean what kind of vacation policies and you get to spend the rest of your life in heaven No, it's you're doing it the wrong way around Muhammad it is time for you to put on the vest. Hey, man I got all these vacation days saved up, you know Abdul it's not my turn

50:16 And then they actually sit there and say, because they've read the documents, yeah, oh, their vacation policies, I mean, hey, quit CNN and go work for Al Qaeda. They got great benefits. They got a 401k. It gets better. You know, this is of a piece of Bin Laden, you know, as David wrote in the Post today and I'm writing for CNN as well, you know, this was a guy who wrote a 48 page memo to his deputies with very micromanagement kind of, no more free coffee, we're getting rid of the beverage center, no expensive juice, we can just have water.

CHAPTER 12 / 30 Discussion

Bin Laden Assassination Plot, Joe Biden Inexperience Claims

Leaked documents suggest Osama Bin Laden plotted to assassinate President Obama to force the "inexperienced" Vice President Joe Biden into the presidency, which Bin Laden believed would cause U.S. chaos. CNN's Candy Crowley and David Ignatius discussed Bin Laden's alleged obsession with watching Western television. The hosts highlight a verbal slip where Ignatius mistakenly refers to Obama instead of Bin Laden.

osama bin laden· joe biden· barack obama· candy crowley· cnn

51:00 Hey, when the pot is empty, you must make the next pot of coffee. You just do not dump the whole coffee pot out and then stick it back on the machine empty. You can't do that. I wonder who was human resources. Did they have to fill out time sheets? I bet you they did. So now the script writer who wrote this, they went off the reservation. And they came up with this idea, it's like, we got a great idea. Let's put in these documents that Bin Laden wanted to shoot down the president's plane. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that's great. Let's put that in. The picture of it emerges is of an organizational life support that had very big goals, you know, kill Obama, but very little means to do it.

51:45 Right, and I was going to ask you David, sort of a double-pronged question, and that is, they really didn't seem to have the wherewithal to carry out these giant plans to shoot down the President's plane. What? Wait a minute, weren't these the guys that hijacked two planes and flew them into the World Trade Center? You're telling me they can't shoot down a 747? Really, Candy? Now you're off my bucket list, girl. And if you would also comment, because one of the things, and maybe it's because I'm a political junkie, that struck me was his summation of Joe Biden as being inexperienced and it would be all chaos in the US when he would then become the president. This is great!

52:26 So, so literally we have Osama bin Laden sitting in his hut, in his, I'm sorry, his compound. He's like, I know if we shoot down the plane, that idiot Biden will be president. It will be pandemonium. Can you just see the writers room? It's like somebody in the offices of the agency produces phony documents. They were laughing. They were giving the needle to Biden. They were pooping their pants it was so funny. I can just see the writers meeting. Oh this is great. What a great angle. I love this. Seems to me a very naive look at the American political system.

53:05 I think he was naive. He spent an awful lot of time watching television. Okay, so somehow they have from these documents... They I guess he was saying today. I watched Candy Crowley boy that bitch is fat Aaron Burnett hot babe too bad. She's CFR shill I mean I was like I take a note of what he was watching so now the conversation turns to he was he was obsessed with watching because we had that one picture of that Like the gardener who looks a little bit like bin Laden watching in that little portable television So this is being put into your mind now that this is true that he was sitting there I'm just I'm watching the satellite. I had know everything what's going on. Let me see mmm Obama yes mmm Biden he's dumb haha. This is very good remember in the first early days of this I made a big deal about there was no no

54:02 No satellite. Nothing going in, nothing coming out. There was no satellite dishes, there was no radio antennas, there was no electricity, there was nothing going in or nothing going out. Yeah. But now... Now he was watching television all day long. Watching satellite TV, yeah. All day long he was watching. Well, you know, look, the hole was big enough to drive a Mack truck through. But then listen... How serious Kandi Crowley takes herself, it's hilarious. In that compound in Abbottabad, I think he was concerned that Obama had turned the tables on Al-Qaeda. He notes in one of these documents that Obama has successfully rebranded. He rebranded? We must rebrand. You've got new Coke, I make new Al-Qaeda.

54:54 The war on terror, you see, they're not calling it the war on terror anymore, they're calling it the war on Al-Qaeda. And that puts us on the defensive in effect. So I think he was focused on Obama. His comments about Biden were surprising in the sense that Biden has had far more experience Now they're striking back, hey, you idiot writers, don't do that man. We're on the Obama bus here. Don't say that about George O'Biden. Senate Foreign Relations Committee and generally than Obama had.

55:29 It's fascinating to see a man who was at once out of touch and totally plugged into the global grid following everything on a daily basis. So, okay, let me just get this straight and we'll hear Candy Crowley say the most amazing thing. So according to him... Osama bin Laden was so plugged into the global grid, which... And he was out of touch. That's what he said. Exactly, exactly. Listen... I agree. It was just this... it was a weird disconnect, it seemed to me, between, you know, just following everything and yet not knowing so much. Yeah, that's what American news does to you. If this is true, then your story is right on.

56:08 Because if you really watch CNN and Fox and MSNBC all day, you'll know a lot about bullcrap. You'll know nothing. You'll be an idiot. You're right. That's exactly what the message is. You'll be a total douchebag. And then just to wrap it up, this guy makes the classic flub, no one catches it. Let me ask you, Peter, I want to ask you both, just as our closing question here. You know, a couple of months, we're going to have the one year anniversary of the killing of Osama bin Laden. What are you doing on the Bin Laden anniversary day, John? You gonna throw a party? I was thinking of having a Super Bowl party. It's on the Super Bowl, right? No, it's coming up. No, it's not on Super Bowl.

56:47 No, it's coming up. I don't know. Do they have a special at Costco? There was a lot of tension at that time. Thank you. I was waiting for your punchline. You finally got there. Thanks. That Al Qaeda would launch some kind of retaliatory attack. In what shape is Al Qaeda now and should we expect that the anniversary of his death would bring anything more than his death did in terms of retaliation, Peter? The organization is on life support. How it's on life? The organization is on... Wait a minute! Wait a minute, that doesn't make any sense with all these other policies. It's on life support? Then why can't we just go home? Give a crap. Go home! I mean this is in the official documents, so if they've known this for almost a year, quit it already. But here it comes. That's what these documents show and that was well understood by the leaders of Al Qaeda itself. Sure somebody opportunistically may try and do something on the anniversary, but you know it's not going to be a big deal and it's unlikely to succeed.

57:48 And David, have we done it? I mean, is Al-Qaeda gone? Al-Qaeda is down, as Peter is one of the world's real experts on. He means the stock price is down. They're down. It's on life support. But these documents do show that Obama continued, presumably until the day he died. Beautiful! That was some shaggy dog story, you just let us right into that. How beautiful was that? That's a good one, that's the clip of the day. Play the G. Let's just hear it one more time, it's so good. To be looking for ways to get the United States... Hold on, let me go back. To looking for ways to... Where is he?

58:38 back to the day he died. Back a little more. Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back. Do show that Obama continued, presumably till the day he died, to be looking for ways to get the United States. In one of the documents, he talks about asking the brothers in this movement to find someone who could travel easily in the United States, presumably it was an American or a- Like Joe Biden. I had a passport that would get him into the US easily. He was always looking for that seam that might allow him to conduct a spectacular attack. The capacity to pull it off, obviously very limited. Down, but not out. Down, but not out. And no one says a thing. I mean, he said it wasn't like a slip, you know, it was like unintelligible. He just said Obama, Obama, Obama. I know, it's very clear. Obama. And then nothing.

CHAPTER 13 / 30 Discussion

Israeli Security Cabinet, Iran Strike Vote

The Israeli security cabinet reportedly voted 8 to 6 in favor of a potential military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta stated the United States would take action to protect its interests if such a strike occurred. The hosts critique a segment from The McLaughlin Group where panelists appeared to be reading from a script regarding Prime Minister Netanyahu.

benjamin netanyahu· leon panetta· israel· iran· mclaughlin group

59:35 No one says, oh dude, you... That's because everyone's assuming that the script is being executed properly. I caught one on the McLaughlin report. Oh, my favorite. Which we've known because we had an insider from one of the producers that told us that the show is entirely scripted. But generally speaking, you don't have somebody else reading your lines for you. That only happens on the 30 Rock. Now play this one and tell me this is a guy saying, hey, come on, let's move it along. Let me tell you what your line is. Is that guy prompting you, forgetting script? For the Israelis, it's an existential risk. For the United States, it's a political risk.

1:00:16 The United States Obama does not want the Israelis to launch a preemptive strike that would draw us into war But he is not going to say something like that, and I'm sure he's told he's told Netanyahu that we don't want it done and the real question is is Obama committed to take the United States to war Netanyahu can you read the word dude? Netanyahu do we need? it phonetically in the prompter for Robertson because he's an idiot? No, it's for Buchanan. Yeah, same thing. Whoever changed the Chiron to Buchanan. Yeah, he's going and uh, Netanyahu, idiot. Netanyahu. BB. Just say BB then. Meanwhile, the Israeli security cabinet voted eight to six to attack Iran. That also came out on Friday. Didn't hear about that, did you? No. Yeah.

1:01:11 Yeah, they voted 8 to 6. I guess that's a... I don't know how it works in Israel, but that may be a majority. It sounds like it might be, but you don't know. You really don't know what that means. You don't know what it means. And Panetta came out and he said the United States would intervene if Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facilities. Quote, obviously Israel is an independent country and they'll make whatever decisions they make on their own based on what they think is in their national interests. This is what he told Hurrah, Hurrah, an Arabic news outlet. Quote two, if they should make the decision, then obviously, obviously the United States will, would take action to protect our facilities in this area and protect our interests in this area. Which I guess means we're on board.

1:02:02 So well, I don't know what it means to be honest about I was looking at the New York Times and they had a way they stole your times, but you know latest the latest Twist on this is that until recently it was a all the intelligence agencies said that the Iranian stopped even thinking about making a nuke until 2003 Right and and they all agree, but now there's like this phony thing that's cropped up. This is well. There's been some intercepts Oh Intelligence, then there's no by the way this no documentation for this from the intelligence agencies themselves. This is all chatter Chatter and it says there's been some document and it has it supposedly there's just as unattributed it has the intelligence agencies worried That they might be wrong

1:02:50 I can't believe it. So based upon one memo somewhere? Yeah, they said that some letter or some something they intercepted. They intercepted something. And this was in the New York Times? Yeah. Above the fold on the front page actually intercept well that so that's propaganda. Yeah, it's totally propaganda But they got it they got it. They you know it's like they well. We're not sure I mean this is like the yellow cake and all the rest of it. I mean It's just the same same playbook that Bush used you know just lie, but you know we think about it This is how we watch all our movies. You know how it's gonna end. You know what's gonna happen at the end. And we keep going to the movies and putting out 50 bucks for two, you know, for a date and some popcorn. And it's like, oh, yeah, that was a good movie. Good effects 3D. Maybe they should do all this in 3D just to make it more interesting. Because it is. It's the same script where you were conditioned. Same script. Well, it's because it works before it works. It works over and over and over again until the script stops working. Yeah.

1:03:53 I watched that Clooney movie, Ides of March. What a piece of crap! Ides of March? I don't even remember that movie. Yeah, where he plays a presidential candidate. It's so bad. Horrible movie. He's almost like every other movie's good, and the other ones are crap. But what was interesting, and English is Mickey's second language, And he was saying things like, you know, I'm married to the... I believe in the Constitution of the United States of America. And he was saying exactly what Obama said. Battery cars, you know, all this stuff. The only difference was we shouldn't be killing people. But everything else right down to redistribution of wealth, it was all in there. And it was really bad, you know, like, oh, well, I wouldn't vote for that guy. Although he's a handsome devil.

1:04:52 And Mickey said, well, he would sound just like Ron Paul. I said, no, just because he said the word constitution. You know, we went back and listened to it. Oh yeah, crap. This is like really shit. And you're like, we will have nothing but battery cars by 2017. Really? Battery cars, please. Yeah, well, they've, you know, it's been going on forever. Meanwhile, the Obama administration is threatening to impose sanctions on India. Gee, you know why? Because they keep supporting that peace pipeline. Except they're saying it differently. India has quote failed to reduce its purchases of Iranian oil.

CHAPTER 14 / 30 Discussion

SWIFT Banking System, Iran Financial Sanctions

The SWIFT banking network, based in Brussels, has disconnected Iranian financial institutions following new European Union sanctions. This move effectively isolates Iran from the global financial system, impacting billions of dollars in trade. The hosts characterize the targeting of a nation's entire financial infrastructure as a novel and aggressive act of economic warfare.

swift· iran· european union· brussels· international banking

1:05:35 And if they fail to shut off their purchases like everybody else does, we're going to impose sanctions on them. We've got a better sanction thing going. I mean, you know, this war that we've essentially declared on Iran with the sanctions or active war into the banking system. I didn't realize they've gone this far with it. Play this clip. Is this about Swift? Yeah. Grain unloading at Iran's biggest port. The move to further isolate the country's economy could make trade like this much more difficult in the future. But it's Iran's bank customers who will feel the immediate effects when they find they're unable to make simple international banking transactions. The organization which handles those money transfers based in the Belgium capital Brussels is pulling the plugs after the European Union agreed new sanctions against Iran.

1:06:38 Every day, Swift handles six trillion dollars of messages on transactions. In 2010, 44 Iranian institutions reported they used Swift more than two million times. These transactions amounted to 35 billion dollars in trade with Europe alone. Iran has proved in the past that it can circumvent sanctions, but one expert says they will find it difficult to dodge these measures. These sort of sanctions haven't really been tried before. They're quite a novel thing. Usually you have trade sanctions and nowadays you have sanctions against top people.

1:07:14 Actually targeting a financial system is a relatively new and novel thing to do. So we shall see. I think that this has more effect and will have more effect and will have more impact on the Iranian authorities than some of the sanctions they've lifted for the past 30 years. The European Union imposed the new sanctions to put pressure on Iran to suspend its program of uranium enrichment. Western countries believe the program is designed to create nuclear weapons. Iran says it's only for peaceful purposes. This is a big deal. I mean yeah Swift Swift is the whole bank international banking system I mean, I don't know how they managed to pull this off, but they do Six trillion a day well it remember. It's only it's not actual money. That's being sent. No. No it's part of it Message why it works. Yeah, it's just like hey

1:08:04 Change that number there. Okay. I'll change it you change it on your end. Yep all done They set that it took a long time to set this up so the banks would trust each other This is a trust thing more than anything to make this system work You have to it's it's it's a it's a really difficult process. You can't just jump out of Swift and start doing it on your own because you're gonna get screwed yeah, I Yeah, I sent you a billion dollars. No you didn't get nothing. You know what they're probably gonna start using PayPal. Can you just see? I am I'm a genie. I am going hey PayPal's ripping me off man. They're taking 5% These guys suck It's the equivalent it literally is the equivalent of PayPal shutting off a whole country. That's basically what it is

1:08:57 It's pretty astonishing and I think this is an act of war. I mean, I totally agree. It's an act of war. People don't get it, how important it is and nobody's really playing it up for what, I mean that one guy who came on and says, you know, this is, no one's ever tried this, this is pretty amazing because it's amazing that you could pull this off. I think you could do Swift in Cuba as far as I know you can. Yeah, probably I mean, I don't know well, you know, it's the first time that anyone's ever done this with Swift Well Europe, of course is moving to their own European system, which we discussed You know, it's gonna be their version of Swift. Well, this is a European product. It's out of Brussels Oh, really? I didn't realize that. Yeah, huh? Interesting didn't know that I thought that it was an American. Well, I know that

1:09:48 For years now, the US has been working with Europe to have all SWIFT transactions tracked. Mickey has one of our best friends over and he's staying for a couple days. He's a real estate agent, a high-end real estate agent in Amsterdam. He says that now in Europe you cannot transfer more than 5,000 euros anywhere electronically. He says then you have to call the bank, you gotta sign forms, you gotta do all this stuff. It's pretty crazy. Dude, that's your money. He says, yeah, that's what it is. We'll do whatever you want. Let me read you a little bit about SWIFT. The current chairman is Yawar Shah. Oh, that guy. He's Pakistani. The CEO is a guy from Spain. The majority of the internet messages use the SWIFT network as of 2010. SWIFT has 9,000 financial institutions. They're headquartered in Brussels.

CHAPTER 15 / 30 Discussion

European Union Integration, Sovereign Debt Crisis

The European Union is increasing its fiscal integration as the "Troika"—the EU Commission, ECB, and IMF—imposes austerity measures on sovereign nations like the Netherlands. The hosts argue that the EU has evolved from a simple monetary union into a technocratic government where laws made in Brussels override national sovereignty. They compare this trajectory to the expanding power of the United Nations.

european union· netherlands· imf· lisbon treaty· brussels

1:10:45 actually designed by Ricardo Bofill something located in Le Hope Belgium this whole thing is reeks of the EU already I don't see how what they would do anything different. So let's talk about the EU for a second because I came across a document that was pointed out to me by a couple of people and it's 79 pages. It's in the show notes 3 9 or 2 dot na show notes calm all marked up and ready for you to peruse at your own leisure now when we talk about the United Nations

1:11:21 You know, I think probably four years ago, you know, we would kind of like laugh drinking club, you know bullcrap whatever But now that we're seeing that the United Nations actually does go and bomb countries We have you know with this. There's just a lot of United Nations talk Now that we've seen what has happened to the EU we kind of know how it works, right? It takes a long time for They set it up under some false pretense, which in the European Union's case was money. So hey, we're all going to have the same paper money. Groovy. That's a hassle, man. That's switching money. I hated that anyway. And then all of a sudden there's a crisis which is created and now we have a fiscal compact. The same gentleman who's staying with us.

1:12:10 He said, you know, now we have the troika in the Netherlands, you know, because everyone has to be at the 3% debt to GDP ratio. The Netherlands is going to be at 4.5% and in comes the EU commissioner, the European Central Bank and the IMF. And they're now telling the sovereign nation of the Netherlands what they have to cut. So, you know, this is now a total integration. You would agree with me, right? Yeah, and so the way it's done is you and and this was going on from the late 50s 1956 it's treaty after treaty after treaty and they build upon things and then all of a sudden you turn around and there's

1:12:46 you know, two, three decades of agreements and douchebags all of a sudden that you didn't elect that are sitting there in charge and you've got a president that you never even heard of and they're making up laws and what happens is these laws are made in Brussels and everyone in Europe who has one eye open will say it's true and the Brits particularly, they make up a law and then what are the lawmakers in the sovereign nations do? They say, okay, we got to make that law too. Is that kind of the way it goes? I thought they didn't have to, I didn't think there was a redundancy the way you describe it. I thought if they made the law in Brussels and it was just had to be enforced, I think it was part of the, I think there's a there's an overriding law that enforces all these other laws. I don't think they'd redo the law and say you have to make that law again. I think, I don't think so. I think they're somewhere in the mid process where you have local laws and the agreement was that you know well

1:13:39 The local laws will always trump the central European laws. You can always override it. But the technocrats... I don't know if that's true. Well, it may not be anymore because there's been so many treaties since the Lisbon Treaty, which I read in its entirety and I saw what bull crap it was. Now they're talking about in Germany, yes, we must have a European constitution. So that's coming up again. They want to make a European constitution. But that's not where I was going with this. We've got to keep our eye on what the United Nations is doing because they have the power to go and kill people. We're now fighting about going and killing people in Syria with blue helmets on, with the world army essentially. And I came across something.

1:14:22 which made total sense to me because I've been watching a lot of news and I watch Clippity Clop, Hillary Clinton. What is Clippity Clop's main thing she always talks about? Always talking about it. She's talking about women, right? A lot of times, yeah. Not always, but yeah. No, no, no. She's always about the women and we got to make sure we got to take care of the women. It's all about the women. And then this report Now this will get the humor first and then I'll dig into this 290 pages are read for you. This is boy. You'll like it you will so we have so in order to create a world government and that's where I'm going and again we would you probably would have scoffed at me four years ago. I don't think you will this time we have to have some common thing that will allow

CHAPTER 16 / 30 Discussion

Aaron Burnett, Global Warming and Shark Orgy Report

CNN's Aaron Burnett aired a report claiming that global warming is causing horses to shrink and sharks to engage in "orgies" and aggressive procreation. The segment cited researchers from the University of Queensland regarding hybrid sharks appearing off the coast of Australia. The hosts dismiss the report as sensationalist propaganda designed to instill fear regarding climate change.

aaron burnett· cnn· global warming· sharks· dubai

1:15:19 the human resources around Gitmo Nation to say, well, yeah, of course, you know, we have to do that because. So what is the one thing that has been pushed on us for a good five years now? What? Biodiversity. Global warming. Well, it's been more than five years. It's been going on for a decade or more. Right. But it's really ramped up the global warming, all that stuff. So then I see Aaron Burnett do a segment, which I was just like, My god, it's so filled with it's a fact. It's true. And then there's a whole fear a fear element in it

1:15:57 I wet myself. Global warming appears to be in full effect. Okay, global warming is in full effect. Right off the bat, my head swivels so fast, my head almost came this large. No without question, fact. Almost came off my shoulders. The past week people here in New York and across the country have been enjoying all kinds of spring, frankly summer activities, which of course has had its benefits for people itching to get outside. So do you think- Wait, wait, wait, I thought- Weather had nothing to do with it. Climate change is not the same as weather, but go on. But it of course has had a very strange effect on nature. It was announced today that... Nature! Oh! Whoa! The cherry blossom festival dates have been moved up in Washington DC by a month because warm weather has caused them to blossom that much earlier. Has this ever... This must have happened before. Happened last year. Yeah, it happened. Well here it did. This year I'll give you a little bit of an aside. Last year this happened. We had a February warm week. In California we usually have our warm weeks in March.

1:16:50 And it popped my plum tree and this happened again this year. It popped my cherry tree. I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, the plum tree pops like in the second or first or second week of February. I'm going, oh great, I'm going to have no plums again because these blossoms come too early and the bees aren't around, nobody takes care of them. And the next thing you know, I got, you know, the green starts coming out. I got a plum tree that won't have any plums. this happened but this is like this is a cycle this can happen you know at any given time and sometimes it could be too cold and maybe it puts things that you know you can't do you can't make these generalizations from one or two years it's ludicrous well so my point is something's wrong with my

1:17:35 My point is, surely this has happened in the past three decades. Oh I'm sure it's happened all the time, it has to. But she's making it sound like, oh my goodness, oh it's a whole month of global warming! It's not just cherry blossoms. Oh, John, now I'm turning up the volume. Global warming is affecting the animal world. Global warming is affecting the animal world. You will never guess. how global warming has affected the animal world. In fact, I'm going to give you three guesses. Warthogs? Man, it's almost as funny. Are losing their hair. Stand by to laugh. For weeks, one of our producers, Bob Hand, has been talking about how global warming is causing horse and human shrinkage. As in, in warm periods of history, horses were the size of cats and people were four feet tall. Oh my God! Horses were the size of cats! I think I will get me a few. So I'm like,

1:18:35 Really? Is this the direction we're headed? Horses are shrinking? Humans are shrinking? There's no evidence except that she had a producer work on it for weeks. What was he smoking dope and like, what can I make up? No, I know. Horses the size of cats. But the impact of climate. There used to be horses the size of cats, of course. I want to just go in the other direction. Say, you know, horses, there used to be little dinky horses around now. This is a horrible report. It gets worse. The change on sharks is in the air now. According to reps for the Atlantis in Dubai, the warm weather, and that's saying something in Dubai, believe me, has led to sharks aggressively procreating. They're having sex! At an alarming rate.

1:19:20 describing the matings as a fiery union. The Atlantis director of marine life. It's not just sex, it's hot sex. Says Shark Spring Break is expected to produce 10 new baby sharks this year. They're on spring break now too. They're like, they're doing wet t-shirt contests, they're doing belly flops, they're having sex. I think they're just, I think they're setting her up to get rid of her. Probably. And more next year. By the way, there's only 60 sharks there right now. So it doesn't end there. Well, this report is based on... She talks funny. She started to talk real fast like this. You notice that she talks like this now? She's so nervous, she talks like this when she reads the reports. Maybe we can do a private consulting session with Aaron.

1:19:59 To help her out, because she's on the firing line for sure. Shark orgy is a much bigger and more wide. Shark orgy, oh I'm sorry, shark orgy, thanks Erin. Spread problem as seas around the world warm. According to researchers at the University of Queensland, 57 hybrid sharks have been found off the east coast of Australia. Hybrid? The experts speculate that the interbreeding is the result of sharks trying to survive climate change and warn that quote other closely related shark and ray species around the world may be doing the same thing. Stop the global warming, we're gonna get eaten by sharks! Maybe you can wrap up the package like that, Aaron, that would be really cool. So, the next time you're outside enjoying the warm weather, remember this, those cherry blossoms might be really nice, but yeah, they're bringing super sharks with them. That was a truly disturbing story we stumbled upon. Stumbled upon? We stumbled upon it.

1:20:52 So this is clearly propaganda. Every show she does, I had one the other day I was gonna, I clipped it and then unfortunately they run their shows overtime so my DVR when it's set to clip something it misses the punchline. So I missed it. But every show she does she has a stupid story like this. This wasn't even her editorial. No, the editorial, I know but it sounds like one of their, the editorial must have really been lame. So anyway, so Oh, this is terrible. Okay, so where this is and this has been going on all week on the news. They have all these stories about global warming and now they're not even saying it's just like fact global warming is doing this global warming is doing that. So enter the fourth draft of the environmental law program of the International Union for the conservation of nature and natural resources in cooperation with

CHAPTER 17 / 30 Discussion

UN Agenda 21, International Environmental Law Draft

The hosts analyze the fourth draft of the International Covenant on Environment and Development, a document linked to UN Agenda 21. The text outlines a framework for "global governance" that mandates environmental conservation in all national decisions. Article 33 of the document specifically requires nations to determine and manage human population sizes to ensure they do not exceed environmental capacity.

agenda 21· united nations· international law· population control· sustainability

1:21:46 The International Council of Environmental Law towards Sustainable Development. This is a part of Agenda 21, as it actually states in the foreword of this document. And this was launched in 1995 on the 13th of March at the UN Congress on Public International Law. I did not know this existed, but when you say to me international law, That sounds like you're trying to put in some laws that are international. I would sound so. So I dissected this a little bit. 76 articles in this international law, and they only revise it a little bit, they say, based upon new evidence and new facts.

1:22:30 So this is the fourth draft and they're just pushing this. 1995, so we're moving along with this thing. So first of all, they don't talk about, it doesn't explicitly state global government. No, they talk about governance. This is the key word, governance. Governance, and I read from page, what is this, 36. Governance is the process of decision making and the process by which decisions are implemented. It also can be defined as the rational organization of society in order to achieve the objectives emerging from its common concerns, emerging from material, economic, historical, and cultural foundations and needs. Governance includes the creation and functioning of institutions

1:23:12 and of norms at various levels from local to the global. Okay, this is what they call a living document. So we're gonna go to Article 3, International Law. The global environment, this is all about environment, but it goes a little further than that, is a common concern of humanity and under the protection of the principles of international law, that dictates of the public conscience and the fundamental values of humanity. So they're setting up article 16. This is where they tell all member nations must integrate environmental conservation into all of their national decisions just like the EU was doing.

1:23:54 Party shall at all stages and all levels integrate environmental conservation into the planning and implementation of their policies and activities, giving full and equal consideration to environmental, economic, social, and cultural factors. To this end, Party shall a. Conduct regular national reviews of environmental and developmental policies and plans, enact periodically review and enforce laws and regulations, so enforce the regulations that will be put upon us by the United Nations, establish and strengthen institutional structures and procedures to integrate environmental and developmental issues in spheres of decision-making. So now they're really starting to push it down.

1:24:37 And where does it come up to article 20 global warming climate change? It's a fact parties shall take precautionary measures to protect the Earth's climate system and Mitigate the adverse effects of climate change because it's a fact apparently to these ends. They shall cooperate internationally Inter alia, what does that mean? I have no idea think it means without objection To a measure that you spell it inter I N T E R space alia a l I a inter alia. Well, you look that up, measure their emissions and implement national appropriate mitigation actions, which could be anything established risk management and implement adaptation majors to establish climate resilient development sounds costly to me.

1:25:27 Now, let's go to the socialist views. Did you find out what intraalia means? Yeah, it means... what? You want... interrupt, please tell us what you want to know. It's like a means that you're... it means there's a bunch of information missing. Well, that's weird. Intraalia... so, oh, so without information missing probably. So exactly as we say. Intraalia. There's a term used in formal extract minutes to indicate that the minute quote it has been taken from a fuller record of other matters.

1:26:07 So it's like an inner alia means that what you're reading is an excerpt. Hmm. Oh, okay. Right. So, so you've got to go back and you've got to integrate the full deal, whatever it is. We just don't have that here in this doc. Right. Right. Okay. Here comes the socialist part. And by the way, I understand how this will work. People like, well, we got to save the earth. You know, we got global warming. We have to get all these laws. Save the children. Yeah, here. Okay, here's what you will do. All the other states, international organizations, civil society, the economic sector shall adopt measures aimed at the eradication of poverty. We're going to get rid of poverty. How are we going to do this? Well, legally empower people living in poverty to exercise their rights.

1:26:51 Including the right to development, respect, ensure, promote and fulfill the rights of vulnerable and marginalized persons, in particular to food, water, housing and other basic needs. Now this is a right, John. You now have a right to a house. Enable all individuals to achieve sustainable livelihoods. Everyone has to have a job. In particular by increasing access and to and control over, increasing control over resources including land. Increase control over land, rehabilitate degraded resources, provide potable water and sanitation, provide education, it's a right, and a particular focus on and with the participation of women and girl children. What am I? Chopped liver?

1:27:44 Why do women get a bonus? Why do they get a Benny? There's your Hillary connection. Exactly. This is where I went, oh my God, this is like they're rolling this out. Recycling. Requirement to recycle to the fullest extent possible. Really? We're going to have like global cops rummaging through my bin? Berkeley is the test market for this. Like in Albany we have these recycling bins. We have a great program here because there's one bin, you can throw everything in it. You could throw glass in it with newspapers and they'd sort it out later. In Berkeley, they have all these separate containers. They send it all to China, like, you screw it, throw this, ship that shit off. Yeah, in Berkeley they have all these separate containers and then there's a good, like, literally what you just said, recycling cops. Cops. Cops. You got a bottle in the paper bin! So now we're gonna... You know, we can fine you for that. So we'll have international cops with blue helmets on rummaging through your trash.

1:28:42 Now, article 33, hello! Magic number article. Countries are required to determine, and this freaks me out, the size of the human population their environment is capable of supporting, and to implement measures to make sure that the population does not exceed that level. What?! Where did you get this? From the United Nations! Oh man. Let me just read that to you one more time. Let's shut these guys down now. Article 33, countries are required, it's not an option, to determine the size, and it even has in quotes, the size. I see this document when it comes out. It's in the show notes. No, no, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about our document that's going to tell them how many people we can sustain. Well, keep your eye on the EPA, my friend. That's what you got to look out for.

1:29:33 Just let me say it again, the size of the human population their environment is capable of supporting and to implement measures to make sure that the population does not exceed that level by killing them? It's what it says. So parties shall develop or strengthen demographic policies in order to achieve sustainable development. To this end, parties shall a conduct studies. John, we got to get on this gravy train, buddy. Oh yeah, there's money to be made here. Conduct studies to estimate the size of the human population their environment is capable of supporting and develop programs relating to population growth at corresponding levels. This is great. Concentration camp. That's my program.

1:30:15 How about killing people? I got a program. We just take all the cripples, we line them up and we shoot them. And can I have a million dollars for my study please? Cooperate to alleviate the stress on natural support systems caused by major population flows. It's really going to take your land. Hey, we got some people here. We got to live here. We got some tents. Moving them out. Co-operators, as requested, to provide a necessary infrastructure on a priority basis for areas with rapid population growth and, here it is, provide to their populations full information on the options concerning family planning. Well, isn't this exactly what the conversation is today in the media about contraception? Isn't this exactly what they're implementing? Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's exactly what's going on.

CHAPTER 18 / 30 Discussion

Global Economic System, UN Environmental Covenant

The UN environmental covenant proposes a one-world economic system where commodity prices reflect social and environmental costs. It suggests that 0.7% of a nation's Gross National Product should be dedicated to official development assistance. Disputes arising from this covenant would be settled by the International Court of Justice in The Hague.

united nations· carbon credits· the hague· international court of justice· agenda 21

1:31:13 And then global economic system, article 34, nations are required to maintain an open and non-discriminatory international trading system. This document affirms the emerging one world economic system and sets out rules for how to participate in an environmentally responsible way. What's the name of this overall overriding document? Well, the document itself is Environmental Policy and Law Paper No. 31, Revision 3. And you're reading from that? Yes, verbatim. I had the whole PDF marked up. Well, they sure slip it in there. I thought we were pretty sly with these opportunity acts that aren't opportunities at all.

1:32:03 Party shall cooperate to establish and maintain an open and non-discriminatory international trading system that equitably meets the developmental environmental needs of present and future generations. What does that mean? Environmental needs? It has to do with trade? Yeah, I don't know. You gotta use battery-powered ships. And carbon credits, I guess. I think it's carbon credits. That's what that means to me. Carbon credits. They just can't get off that thing. It's like it's such a perfect scheme for making money. They just can't get away from it. They can't think anything different. How about this one? So to that end, prices of commodities and raw materials must reflect the full and direct, full direct and indirect social and environmental cost of their extraction, production, transport, marketing, and where appropriate, ultimate disposal. In other words,

1:33:00 Prices going up on everything. Because it has to take into effect the environmental and indirect social cost. I mean this is... it made my stomach churn. I found this last night at like 11. I'm like, Mickey go to bed. I'll see you in a couple hours. I got to read through this thing. And it's just so bad. But you know, so you just have to be... When was this passed? Who was it passed? Where was it passed? Well, it's... the thing is, it's... there's a huge group of people who meet and by the way, it's financed by the government of the Netherlands. They're thanked in the forward.

1:33:42 As the ones that have financed this group, it's a large group of people and they meet several times a year. And so they have this one draft that they came up with in 1995 before you and I even were doing the show, before there was interwebs almost. They've just been building on it and building on it and these people go back, you know And they talk to their you know policy makers and it's all idiots all technocrats and people who are happy to have a job and Consultants and doing studies and you know, and then well, you know, we're gonna have killer sharks, man You got to implement this stuff. You want to die? You know sharks are gonna be on land walking around land sharks gonna be

1:34:23 So, you want to know how it's all going to be paid for? It's in Article 51. All right, tell me. Parties undertake to provide in accordance with their capabilities, financial support and incentives for those national activities aimed at achieving the objectives of this covenant. Now it's a covenant. And a covenant is pretty much an agreement that is legally binding. You can have a covenant on your house, when if I were to buy a house and it has a good luck and it has a covenant on it that I can't, you know, like build an extra story on top of it. It ain't gonna happen. It's a legally binding document now. Parties shall pursue innovative ways of generating public and private financial resources for sustainable development. This is all Agenda 21 stuff.

1:35:09 Innovative ways. This is where that's basically shouting, hello consultants, hello consultants, come up with some innovative PowerPoints. And now the kicker, article 52 and then I'll stop. Parties, that means us, we're a part of it, taking into account their respective capabilities and specific national and regional developmental priorities, objectives and circumstances, shall endeavor to augment their aid programs, so in addition to everything we're already doing, to reach the United Nations General Assembly target of at least 0.7% of gross national product for official development assistance.

1:35:54 That's a lot of money and they say it right here 0.7% Yeah, of course and it gouges the bigger countries and little countries don't have to pay anything So I thought this is an eye-opener. Yeah, and and and in the in the forward it right there. It's like agenda 21 I'm like, oh wow, you know, they said this is all the let me see if I can find that particular piece where it literally says This is a part of agenda 21. Here it is. Um to lay out common bases upon which future lawmaking efforts will be developed. Agenda 21 elaborated the vital aspects of treaty making in Chapter 39. I didn't actually do that. I didn't go back to Chapter 39 of Agenda 21.

1:36:43 But I know what they mean. There's a need to identify and agree on universal principles to set priorities for future lawmaking at the global, regional, and sub-regional level to ensure that trade policy measures for environmental purposes do not emerge as a disguised restriction on international trade. Not disguised. And to identify ways to minimize or resolve conflicts between environmental and social-economical agreements and instruments. Now, I do have to give one final kicker. Settlement of disputes, article 69, soixante-neuf. If parties to such a dispute do not reach agreement within one year following the notification by one party to the other that a dispute exists, the dispute shall, at the request of one of the parties, be submitted to, to,

1:37:38 Come on. The Hague? Yes! The International Court of Justice. Oh God. And here it is, my favorite one, International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea. It's a total takeover, man. Total freaking takeover. It's a total attempt to take over. It worked in the EU and we witnessed it ourselves. We saw it happen with our very own eyes. It's just happened. You think these douchebags in Washington are any better than the douchebags in Brussels? They're smarter all of a sudden? That all of a sudden our population is seeing this? No. They're not seeing that. Because Aaron Burnett says there's going to be super sharks. I don't care. I'm afraid now. I don't care. Just take my money. Carbon credits. It's all good.

CHAPTER 19 / 30 Discussion

Listener Donations, Job Karma Requests

The hosts read letters from donors including Jesse Wilson, Rick Hraznek, and Monica Reardon. Reardon shares an anecdote about her children overhearing the show's "douchebag" call-outs. Jeff McKenzie sends a donation while intoxicated, requesting karma for a new job that requires him to travel between Ohio and Canada.

jesse wilson· rick hraznek· monica reardon· william ashby· jeff mckenzie

1:38:34 Well, I think this is a good moment to uh... We're gonna need some more cash than we got for today in order to pay for our carbon credits to protect us from the super-stars. Yeah, I will be able to drive around the block. Jesse Wilson, Hobart, Indiana though, gave us $111.11, which is a donation we don't get much of anymore. Last month I donated and PayPal wouldn't let me put my karma request in and I didn't get one when my donation was read either. Oh no! This one put me halfway to the roundtable. I don't know why. I don't know.

1:39:17 Anyway, he needs a karma shot, loves to challenge coins, dropped another $111 on them. Oh, very nice. How many coins do you need? You've got karma. Rick, I just want to say one thing to you. F you, John. Rick Hraznek. Hey, from Petovania. From Easton, Pennsylvania, $100.33 and closes a money order for... Oh yeah, he sent this in his cash. I'd like to call out all the Republicans who didn't vote for Ron Paul in the primaries as douchebags. They're letting one of the greatest statesmen since the founding of the Republic slip away. That's absolutely true.

1:40:03 Dear John and Adam, Monica Reardon in San Diego, California writes for $100. In the morning I am a stay-at-home mom of two and no agenda has provided me with hours of entertainment as well as much needed mental stimulation. My husband's a big fan and badgered me to listen to No Agenda until I finally capitulated. Whoops. And I'm glad I did, although I still cringe at the douchebag call-outs and the MILF jingle. She doesn't like it. I need some new job cover for myself. I'm trying to get, uh, because I'm tired of living the American dream of just getting by. I recently interviewed with a great company and I really want to offer, want them to offer me a job. Keep up the good work. Hope to make another donation soon. Uh, P.S. uh,

1:40:45 My six-year-old daughter overheard me listening to No Agenda once and she heard Adam's story about burning his penis while smoking on the toilet. When was that story? Don't you remember? I was reading... That was a while ago, wasn't it? No, it was maybe a month or two ago and I was reading. Oh, it was about the European stability mechanism and I was like, oh my god, they'd moved it up a year to screw everybody and then I dropped my cigarette on my thing. She heard Adam's story about burning the penis while smoking a toy. My daughter left the room screaming, Mom is listening to her computer and a man said he burned his penis with a cigarette. My nine-year-old son also heard an episode where Adam, it's always Adam, called someone a douchebag and now that term has become part of my son's vernacular. You know what? Your kids are going to grow up to be fine individuals.

1:41:40 Let me give her a shot of Job Karma here, hold on a second. You've got karma. Well, I apologize, but you should have used headphones. Hey, you know what? This show's not that bad. I'm sure your son is playing, like, World of Warcraft or some other video game where it's okay for him to be at home shooting the enemy, Al-Qaeda terrorists, on a video game. So if that's... William Ashby Mobile Alabama 99.99 99 give it to him. Niner niner niner niner! Please give a douchebag call out to Brian Wright and Michael Baldwin. Michael Baldwin. Douchebag. Not yet donating and a de-douching to me. Alright. You've been de-douched. So now he's up way ahead of his buddies.

1:42:38 And here we go, barely made it just in at the last minute, but it happened. Jeff McKenzie from Wapakoneta, Wapaka, Wapaka, Wapako, Wapakaneta. Wapakaneta I think, yeah. Wapakabaka, at Ohio 6969. Drunk donating tonight and looking for some karma I was laid off got a new job But I've got to go to Detroit Monday morning to get a passport as the job is crossing the border to Canada three times a week get a passport card They're beautiful a dynamite looking and get laid milf or the one I'm looking to nail next so you need He's drunk That's one mother

CHAPTER 20 / 30 Discussion

Sea Power History, NPR Bagel-thon

A listener recommends the book "The Influence of Sea Power upon History" by Alfred Thayer Mahan to settle a debate between the hosts regarding hydrocarbons and trade routes. Another donor, Shannon Atkins, explains she chose to support No Agenda over her local NPR station's "bagel-thon" fundraiser.

alfred thayer mahan· sea power· npr· saskatoon· hydrocarbons

1:43:25 You've got karma as little intermezzo. I want to thank Justin Del Sesto he says In 1989 the cherry blossoms came out in February Okay, there that was my point Aaron Burnett. No definitely Mike Nicola Chuck, Nicolai Chuck, Nicolai Chuck, Nicolai Chuck, yeah. In Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, known otherwise as the Paris of Canada. Double niggles on the dime. Jason Seals in Irvine, Texas.

1:44:05 55 in the morning citizens donating double nickels on the dime for all the work you guys do put into the show. Thank you for keeping me informed and watching all the brainwashing material on TV so I don't have to. Also special thanks to Sir Stephan Springer for propagating the formula and getting me to listen to the show. He needs a de-douching and a hey citizen. Hey citizen! You've been de-douched. excuse me mr. Peabody with I guess is a sidekick in net Wow net shit chochis I don't know I'm a law I'm lost on that one yeah natural shits in Louisiana 53 14

1:44:51 Your first donation with a little pie, 5314, wanted to say that the running argument you've had over Adam's fascination with hydrocarbons ruling the world and John's Pasha reaction, you're both right. I highly recommend you set the WABAC machine, the way back machine, to the old book, The Influence of Sea Power on History by Alfred Thayer Mahan. This is an art of war for the late 19th century also became the mantra in the early 20th century US globalists. Theory simple throughout history he who controls the world's trade routes controlled the world. Makes perfect sense since the dawn of trade after the dark age it's all about as John might point out who controls the spice trade or the gold trade or the raw materials today. The key element is the generating energy so as Adam would say who runs the pipelines controls the future and he

1:45:40 And he goes on with this theory, so we should probably read that book. We should look into it anyway I'll check it out the C C power C power is what it called C power on history, okay? No, I'll definitely read that by Alfred Thayer mayhem off to go to my second hand book show cuz I'm not bookstore Hey, I get it first Kindle. It's probably public domain. Yeah, Shannon Atkins you probably get it from archive.org or from yeah, I Shannon Adkins in Warren Michigan finally a city I can pronounce 50-50 donation was inspired by the NPR bagel thon on the ride to work this morning instead I decided to support the show that I listen to every week that gets no corporate or government support. That's right. It's a fact. Fact. And no tote bags.

1:46:26 Dame Tanya, New York. $50 from Dame Tanya. I'm starting a new position for my company on Monday. I'm requesting some karma for a smooth transition. Thank you for the best podcast in the universe. I'm very happy. She's awesome, Dame Tanya. Here you go, baby. You've got karma. Alan Bean in Oakland, another $50 from him. Thanks, MoFo's great analysis. Please continue. Thankfully, because of you guys, I am slowly opening up my pretend wives eyes to reality. Pretend wife? I don't know what that means. And finally, Jason Fortune in Geneva, Illinois for $50. I did have a couple of other side notes I got. Oh, we got the coins, right? We got some silver coins.

CHAPTER 21 / 30 Discussion

Silver Eagle Donations, IRS Tax Policy

Listener Jason Hill donated physical US Silver Eagle coins, arguing that their taxable value is only the $1 face value despite their higher market price. John Dvorak expresses skepticism about this strategy, noting that the IRS has previously challenged such interpretations. The hosts reiterate their "value-for-value" model as an alternative to traditional advertising.

jason hill· silver eagle· irs· ron paul· value-for-value

1:47:10 Yeah, yeah, that's on the you have that note in front of you. Yeah, this is from Jason Hill I sent my donate and donation on the 5th of March want to give some explanation for the model it represents I'm in month two of being a small business owner I've made a good start, but I'm also learning of all the taxes that comes with it. Yes. I've quickly come to despise them In thinking of my desire to donate to the show, I'm aware of your potential taxable rates. In an attempt to mitigate that and implement a varied value-for-value donation model, I've sent you and JCD a US-denominated $1 silver eagle. Each coin has a value of approximately $40 plus based on the spot price and tax at time of purchase, but your taxable rate is a mere $1." He says this actually went to court. Oh, wait, I don't have that part in. He had a link to a court case.

1:47:57 Where someone won on this issue, so please accept these coins and issue me a quick deducing Considering JCD's ventures to the post office box my donation may not be verified till the middle of the month But I want a birthday shout out for my eldest son Andrew on the 20th of March, and he's on the list good uh... any karma karma shot for my business so uh... deduce karma combo thank you very much and uh... but uh... i'm kind of with john uh... and uh... comes from ron paul's also said that you can't do that uh... the i a r s will come and uh... inspect me and and john if we do that so uh... so we don't yet he's going to do it as a matter of policy is not worth it effort and i'm glad somebody did win a case on it but it's still it's pretty dubious i mean

1:48:43 And the IRS has guns by the way. They come to your house with guns. So, you know, I'm gonna hold up a printout and say, yeah, but you know in Georgia somebody... It ain't gonna work. You've been D-douched. Also, we got a $52.10 donation from Andrew Richter. Just listen to the segment of, A391 while driving to work realizes about time I donate. First I think I'm a douchebag, this is my first donation, I've been listening for three years. Wow, that's not okay man. You leech.

1:49:21 And so he's getting married on 10-10-10 and missed the super karma donations. My request is some job karma, because right now I'm sending this from work on a computer at a job I hate. I have an interview tomorrow and I can only hope for the best. I'd also like a douchebag because I'm still practically a boner just... So give him a karma and then a douchebag. Or a douchebag and then a karma. That's maybe a better way to do it. Either way. To end on a positive note. Douchebag! You've got karma. That's a new one. I think that's the first you're a douchebag you've got karma that we've ever done. Don't you think? I don't remember it. Yeah, I'll do it tighter next time.

1:49:59 That's pretty good. Well. I know how many people are gonna request it, but I suppose there's a few out there So I want to thank all these people who helped us get this show off the road off the road That's exactly what they're doing. Yeah, they got this show off the road buddy who didn't donate you're helping us get off the road This is good. You got to get me at him back on the road because he's got to do another hot pockets dress summers coming up and I want to... We've been thinking about it. We've been thinking about it. Noagendanation.com, noagendashow.com, Dvorak.org slash NA for the donation page with all the newest... there's some new stuff on there. Go to Dvorak.org slash NA and check it out. Really? There's new stuff? What did you put on the page? I moved some stuff around.

1:50:39 You gave the boxes some air is that what you're telling me and I think it's some of this stuff off there was like What is this doing? It was hard work. Yeah, Dvorak org Slash and a just a reminder. This is a value for value model Why because we can't take any advertising it would never work for us and we do need your money Why because it's the only way we can pay the bills It's your birthday, birthday, on NO Agenda! No nights, no nightage today. No nightage, okay, well... No nights today, my love has gone away. We need some nights. We need to step up. That was a very, very weak performance that we did. Yeah. I do have some interesting little side light stuff. Okay. I was listening to C-SPAN while you were listening to Hexcess Hollywood. Hexcess.

1:51:58 Well, I was, you mean while I was reading 279 pages of the United Nations documents that will determine how the world is ruled? That's the best one. That's a monthly, that goes in the next newsletter. I'm going to summarize that and put it out there. Good. So I have a, I was listening to Ray LaHood. Oh, you don't mean that guy. I'm an a-hole. I know I'm sorry. I'm sorry hold on a second. All aboard trains good, planes bad. Once a year I do that. He even annunciated. I didn't know it was gonna come now. John sent me an email. He's in one email. It's like when I say Ray LaHood play the jingle.

CHAPTER 22 / 30 Discussion

Ray LaHood, California High-Speed Rail Criticism

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood defended the California High-Speed Rail project during a congressional hearing, despite reports from the state auditor labeling it an immense financial risk. The hosts criticize the project's $100 billion price tag and its planned route through the Central Valley. They argue that high-speed rail will not alleviate traffic jams on Highway 5 or in Los Angeles.

ray lahood· high-speed rail· california· jerry brown· transportation

1:50:39 You gave the boxes some air is that what you're telling me and I think it's some of this stuff off there was like What is this doing? It was hard work. Yeah, Dvorak org Slash and a just a reminder. This is a value for value model Why because we can't take any advertising it would never work for us and we do need your money Why because it's the only way we can pay the bills It's your birthday, birthday, on NO Agenda! No nights, no nightage today. No nightage, okay, well... No nights today, my love has gone away. We need some nights. We need to step up. That was a very, very weak performance that we did. Yeah. I do have some interesting little side light stuff. Okay. I was listening to C-SPAN while you were listening to Hexcess Hollywood. Hexcess.

1:51:58 Well, I was, you mean while I was reading 279 pages of the United Nations documents that will determine how the world is ruled? That's the best one. That's a monthly, that goes in the next newsletter. I'm going to summarize that and put it out there. Good. So I have a, I was listening to Ray LaHood. Oh, you don't mean that guy. I'm an a-hole. I know I'm sorry. I'm sorry hold on a second. All aboard trains good, planes bad. Once a year I do that. He even annunciated. I didn't know it was gonna come now. John sent me an email. He's in one email. It's like when I say Ray LaHood play the jingle.

1:52:42 Let's do it again. I'll cut it out. I'll cut it out of the show. Yeah, we'll do it I was over at listen to C-SPAN and guess who was on Ray LaHood all aboard trains good planes bad Kind of summarized everything with this America's one big potholes just play this clip and it was play the real clips Wait a minute America is one big pothole. Okay, lovely America is one big pothole right now We have not paid attention to our roads and bridges. We haven't. I'm gonna play that at the end of the show. Hold on, that's great. That's a keeper. So he goes on, the guy is a douchebag, let's start with that. He goes on and on about high speed and they're grilling him about the high, because he's on the high speed rail thing. He won't get off of it. And so play the, here's the

1:53:36 Well, here's two clips I have. One is the vision. He has this vision thing about, oh, you know, we play the vision of Ray LaHood. Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, can I just say one thing? Yeah. America has always been about vision, particularly when it comes to transportation. Now, I'm glad that when President Eisenhower signed the interstate bill, there were a few visionaries here in Congress and in subsequent administrations Because what they did, they built large chunks of concrete that didn't really connect for a while, but there was a vision to connect America. 50 years later we have a state-of-the-art interstate system because of visionaries like Eisenhower and like members of Congress.

1:54:26 That's the kind of vision that President Obama, some governors, some people in America have for getting to the next generation of transportation. For connecting our kids and grandkids so they can get out of cars, so they can get out of congestion, so they can ride in a comfortable train that goes at decent speed. If we don't have that vision, we are going to shell really short-circuit our ability to get what what other generations did for us. Well you got a vision it's just not connected sufficiently to reality in my opinion. I have a dream of a train that goes fast. So the senator from New Hampshire starts grilling him about that and I clipped this up a little bit so sometimes it's not gonna flow properly because I had to shorten it.

1:55:15 about the California high-speed rail and he is so lame about this and this is just a huge Taxpayer scam let's just revisit listen before you play the clip. Let's just revisit that This thing you'll actually have to get off like it's going around the mountain It's not actually going this supposed to be Calif was what San Francisco to Los Angeles But it we have to take a bus first and you go from the bus to the train and they have to get off and then you got it there's not building a tunnel it's like completely nuts and For those of you who haven't been listening to the show for that long, I got kicked out of my house in San Francisco for this fricking project under eminent domain. They literally tore down the building. They tore down a whole block including a couple of historic buildings. Art galleries, yeah it was fantastic.

1:56:07 It was just unbelievable. Okay, so... And by the way, it's still a parking lot. Oh, of course. No, I... You could have been... They could have left that building there and you could still be there. I mean, if you know, it's just ridiculous. So anyway, let's play the KELS high-speed rail goes ahead. By independent individuals who've looked at it, including the state auditor who had said that the California bullet train project has become increasingly risky because of fiscal issues with it, even the first phase, they're concerned about it. And with respect to California, the

1:56:44 California High-Speed Rail Peer Review Group, which is an expert body mandated by state law, not a federal group, expressed serious doubts about it and concluded that it cannot at this time recommend that the California legislature approve appropriations for the bonds of it because the project, quote, represents an immense financial risk. Why would we designate additional federal dollars for something that in California itself in looking at it has designated it an immense financial risk? You don't have vision girl! Because the governor supports it, because the elected leaders there support it. I just met with the president which is called the pro tem of the Senate and also the Speaker of the House. I just met with the governor. I just met with the two US senators from California.

1:57:36 and a lot of meetings. This is what the elected officials in California would like to do for the next generation. They'd like to have passenger rail in California because... Why? Because? California is one big traffic jam. So you're asking... They want to get people out of cars and into passenger trains. You're asking the rest of the country to put up billions of dollars for something that has been described as an immense financial risk. based on the officials of one state. Good catch, John. Now here's the thing that's interesting that I think was the kind of the telling. He wants to run a high-speed rail from San Francisco to Los Angeles to get people out of their cars because it's a big traffic jam. There is no traffic jam on Highway 5 that goes from San Francisco to Los Angeles. That thing is completely empty. Yeah, it's completely empty. It's all once you get to like

1:58:31 uh... what is it there are sure to get the highway five it is a straight shot yeah just push it eighty miles an hour and punch it all the way down there is no traffic jams until you get local yeah so it's not getting people out of their car and how do you know what you get to the blos angeles you have to rent the car can't get around los angeles any other way and so you're back into the traffic jam this is bogus Yeah, it's... it's... And meanwhile, it's up to a hundred billion dollars is what they estimate the cost. And the number one, the first thing they're gonna build is Merced to Bakersfield. Who the hell's gonna go on this thing? You have to go... Bakersfield has like an amusement park. There's nothing there. Bakersfield's got nothing. They got like a guitar store. And Merced's got nothing. No. But you're gonna get there real fast.

1:59:23 Wow, but I also found really interesting and that kind of plays into our segment about the UN where he's like This woman basically said it's it won't work financially all the numbers are in It's it's a losing proposition, and he says shut up, bitch We want it. I talked to all I talked everybody these are elected officials. Yeah elected by idiots and How we so people you gotta let you gotta vote these people out. You gotta run for office. You got we got to do something This is this is just incredible and you're right John. It makes no sense. It makes no sense I lived in Los Angeles. It's totally all local totally Yeah, the 405 and that where are they going at 3 in the afternoon?

2:00:11 It's always baffling to me why the traffic is so bad. If they put double-decker freeways up, it'd be a better idea and it'd be cheaper. And let's always remember what our president said about how great high-speed rail will be. Oh, why, there we go. Oh, why is it here? Yeah. Imagine boarding a train in the center of a city. No racing to an airport. And across the terminal, no delays, no sitting on the tarmac, no lost luggage, no taking off your shoes. Yeah, well you know what? It won't matter because by the time this is built, you and I will be dead. So we won't be able to make him eat those words. But of course it's bullcrap, no race into the air. Of course, the train leaves on time.

2:00:54 You're gonna have to catch the train. You have to race to the airport. You know your wife is gonna have to drive you. Oh, I used to take the train from Guilford to London. What a pain in the butt! You know it cost 15 pounds to get a cab because of course they jack up the rates and they're the only ones that can actually drive through and have a spot to drop you off. There's no other way to do it. And then they take away the bathrooms. Nah, it's... It's hopeless. Well, I think it's just America's is one big pothole Fix that not here in Texas my friend. We got some beautiful potholes You want to see some nice roads go to Alabama? Wow. No, we drove through it. We know the crappiest road was the one all the way up the Illinois the interstate Obama's the state. Oh, that's a horrible road. I

CHAPTER 23 / 30 Discussion

Myanmar Conflict, Kachin State Pipeline

The U.S. State Department announced $1.5 million in aid for internally displaced persons in Myanmar's Kachin State. The hosts suggest this funding is a strategic move to support rebels interfering with the Chinese-backed Shwe-Gas pipeline project. They frame the conflict as a proxy battle between U.S. and Chinese interests in the region.

myanmar· burma· kachin state· shwe-gas pipeline· derek mitchell

2:01:48 It's like you're riding moguls. Texas? Beautiful. Alabama? I'm sure it's beautiful. Okay, let's do this now for a second. Only because there's international news, John. I have to do it. There's international news. So I was watching the state, and this of course is just as much about kicking China out of everywhere we want to be as it is about anything else. And so I'm watching the State Department videos, always a hoot, and there's this guy Derek Mitchell, and he does this short little 40-second statement.

2:02:38 And you know, and you can do this at home too. You can play the No Agenda, the home game just by participating and when you hear something you don't know about, get a fricking map and look at where it is and then look for some news. First, it has to do with some developments in Kachin State. Specifically the issue of humanitarian access to internally displaced persons, we call IDPs. And I want to announce here that to that end, the United States is going to provide 1.5 million dollars in additional funding to the UNHCR for that purpose, to assist those internally displaced persons. The outcome of the elections, of course, are up to the people of this country. That's not what our interest is. Our interest is the process. That it be free, that it be fair, that it be transparent.

2:03:25 And that it truly represent the will of the people of this country. And we do see this, the international community, as well I know the citizens here, they see it as a critical moment and a marker towards building trust and confidence. Trust and confidence. Big words for sending a mail. Who is this blowhard? Yeah, he's from the Burma desk. The Myanmar Burma desk. So I look at the Asian Times. First hit on Google. So armed clashes between the Burma Army and the armed wing of Kachin State Independence Organization, the KIO, resumed in northern Burma on Monday after both sides failed to reach an agreement during the latest round of peace talks. So you can bet that these are US State Department paid for rebels who are making a muck of things because at the bottom of the article

2:04:12 This important little quote, over the past few months, heavy fighting took place often all along the KIO controlled territory between Namtu and Madoing townships in the Kachin state, where the massive Shwe-Gas pipeline project is going onward. I mean so this and what is a million and a half bucks it's a payoff hey thanks for thanks for making that hard for the Chinese here's your money I don't I mean really ID ID peas internationally displaced persons to me that's just a payoff and they're lying and they're full of crap are you with me on that I mean that's yeah that's a bribe yeah then we have Syria so

CHAPTER 24 / 30 Discussion

Syria Civil War, Amnesty International Leadership

Amnesty International has launched a campaign against the violence in Syria, specifically targeting Russia for supplying arms to the regime. The hosts point out that the new head of Amnesty International, Susan Nossel, is a former State Department official under Hillary Clinton. They argue that the organization's messaging now aligns closely with U.S. foreign policy objectives.

syria· aleppo· amnesty international· susan nossel· hillary clinton

2:04:57 We had two bombings in Syria's second city Aleppo Wow! At a security building. They don't really specify what but obviously it's the guard gate to the pipeline. They're blowing up the pipeline in Aleppo now. It's just the news doesn't report it that way. And it's like of all the places you can blow stuff up. Homes, oh that's a good one. How about this next? Oh yeah let's do Aleppo. Yeah! Yeah, no coincidence there. And then I'm watching C-SPAN, and here's our government. Here's Dick Durbin.

2:05:35 from the Democratic side of the house and he explains why we have to go and kill people. Brown people who live in the desert. I would say to the Senator from Texas, and I'm sure he has studied this as I have, it is hard to parse out the elements in the Middle East and to decide who is fighting for which team. So wait a minute, Senator, Honorable Durbin, if you studied it, you can't figure it out. What are you, an idiot? You're a total dick. Oh, I'm sorry, you are. Dick Durbin. But when it comes to Syria, consistently they have allied themselves with Iran. And in that alliance, Iran has been very supportive of Syria and Hezbollah. Ah! Another group, terrorist group, that is operating primarily through Syria. And so that close connection there is a matter of concern to me. Our goal in the Middle East is to create stability,

2:06:31 and to stop the march of these dictators in the Middle East who are... Okay. That's the goal, John! The march of the dictators? Forward! Dictators! So we listen to General Wesley Clark again, so we just before you do that is you're on the Syria thing I have to play this clip. Oh, this is a Syrian rebel They got they had him on Al Jazeera, so they had this rebel and so they asked him what he wanted He said well we want arms and so what kind of arms do you think he'd want you think he wants some small weapons? It's perhaps that made does he want bullets? What does he want? This is what he wants. He has been too reluctant to seek outside military help he says inside Syria the fighters have a

2:07:15 urgent needs. Of course we need bombing! You want this? Yes. You want that? Yes. You want bazookas? Yes. You want bombs? Yes. You want military? Yes. Do you want ships? Yes. Want some hookers? Just take anything! I mean, what is this bullcrap? I'll take reporters this! I'll take whatever I can get! Give me that! Give me that! Give me that now! Well... So here's General Wesley Clark and this is, we've played this before, it's in Evergreen, but it's important to know that this march to stop this, our job to stop the march of dictators was set up kind of around, what was that, 9-11. About 10 days after 9-11 I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and

2:08:07 and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the joint staff who used to work for me and one of the generals called me and he said, sir you gotta Come in, you gotta come in and talk to me a second. I said, well you're too busy. He said, no, no. He says, we've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq. This was on or about the 20th of September. By the way, I love how he says it. We made the decision. We're going on our way to Iraq. He's an impression right there. He's doing an actual impression. We're on our way to Iraq. I said, we're going to war with Iraq? Why? Why? Because. He said, I don't know.

2:08:44 He said, I guess they don't know what else to do. So I said, well did they find some information connecting Saddam to Al-Qaeda? He said, no, no. He says there's nothing new that way. They've just made the decision to go to war with Iraq. He said, I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments. And he said, I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. So I came back to see him a few weeks later and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, are we still going to war with Iraq? And he said, oh, it's worse than that. He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper and he said, I just, he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense's office today. And he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries

2:09:36 in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran. Love that clip. Oh, I love that clip. So Amnesty International and I was raised with Amnesty International being like the good guys because of course I was raised in a coma. As everyone, I was also raised that they're the good guys. Yeah. So they come out and they've got a great campaign. A year has passed. I'm reading from their website since largely peaceful protests, largely peaceful protests began in Syria in mid-March 2011. So far, well over 6,500 people are reported to have been killed.

2:10:24 They're just making up numbers. I mean, no one is over there counting. They just... It's like how many YouTube hits do you get? Let's just say a million. That sounds better. Why bother with the 6,500? Many more have been injured. Tens of thousands of people are believed to have been arrested. Deaths in custody have been rocked. have rocketed. Additionally, satellite images show the shelling of residential areas and homes. Yet the international community has not effectively addressed this human rights crisis. By vetoing two UN Security Council resolutions on Syria while continuing to supply Syria with arms, the Russian Federation's actions have only served to heighten the violence in Syria. No more excuses Russia! Stand up against bloodshed in Syria!" I'm like, hmm, let me poke around this website.

2:11:10 And lo and behold... Shadow Puppet Theater! Yay. Yay? Oh yeah. Susan Nossel just became the head of Amnesty International. And where is she coming from? You're gonna tell me. The State Department. Oh. Yeah. She was Hillary Clinton's deputy assistant for international organization affairs. But she's a winner, man. She was also on the Center for American Progress group. Better than that. Human Rights Watch from the UN. Yep. Chief Operating Officer and Vice President of Strategy and Operations for The Wall Street Journal. And she worked in business development for Bertelsmann Media. Also was a consultant at McKinsey & Company. Yeah. So she is a PR whore.

CHAPTER 25 / 30 Discussion

East Africa Conflicts, Chinese Oil Interests

Military activity has increased in East Africa, with Kenyan jets bombing Al-Shabaab bases in the port city of Kismayo. The hosts link these military actions to Chinese plans to build an oil export base in the region. They also discuss a border dispute between Ethiopia and Eritrea, alleging U.S. involvement in the conflict.

kenya· somalia· ethiopia· eritrea· al-shabaab

2:12:13 It's what she does. It's just a big PR company. Susan Nozzle. Schnozzle. Susan Schnozzle, I got my eye on you, girl. Tracking you now. Watch out what you're doing. And then I'll wrap this up with Kenya. Kind of interesting. Kenya? Can you wrap it up? I can wrap it up. Kenyan quote fighter jet before you wrap it up I do one more clip but go on okay Kenyan in air quotes fighter jets bombed several military bases in the rebel-held port city of Kismayo of course oh yeah this is another one and why is kid this is a why did they stick in Kenya with this I have not followed up on this one but what'd you find out oh well

2:13:04 The Chinese are planning to build an oil export base in Kismayo to set up offshore oil rigs. So what's the key? The key is just proxies for some cause. Yeah, and the reports are that, you know, they're saying, oh, Kenyan Kenyan jets, but of course they were US jets and the local reporting says yeah with the we in partnership with the United States We bombed al-shabaab what I'll be in war with al-shabaab at least declare a war in al-shabaab do some ship Al-shabaab it was that the company that we were that al-qaeda reverse mergered into Al-jabab Shabab it's the okay. So here read this with me China has shifted its support for

2:13:49 from the Kenyan-backed Azzanian Liberation Force to the more savvy and experienced Ethiopian-backed TFG forces concentrated in Gedo. So there's been some alliance shifting there between, I think the Chinas bet on the wrong horse basically. Yeah, probably. And then, but you know, they're trying to grab, they're trying to grab the port and then right next door in Ethiopia, The Eritrean government said Friday, Eretrian. Thank you. Eretrian. I never heard of her. I had to look it up. But it's and it's not just a hop, skip and a jump. But Ethiopia is right next door to Kenya. Said Friday that an attack on its military outpost by neighboring Ethiopia was carried out with the help of U.S. the U.S. and meant to divert attention from a decade old border dispute between the two countries that that's probably pipeline related. But there we are again.

2:14:49 I mean, come on! Get with it already! I gotta get something out of you, since you brought up this Susan Nozzle. Schnozzle. She's affiliated scholar with the Center for American Progress Action Fund, and they have a bunch of experts that go out and print and radio and TV and web. Oh, right. And they're... yeah. Let me just... I'm gonna read off the first names of these people. You tell me what's common about it. Katie, Christina, Laura, Anne, Lindsay, and Andrea.

CHAPTER 26 / 30 Discussion

Jay Rockefeller, Cybersecurity Legislation

Senator Jay Rockefeller compared the current state of cybersecurity to the period leading up to the September 11 attacks, warning that the U.S. is losing a digital war. The hosts critique Rockefeller's technical understanding and his "arrogant" demeanor during C-SPAN hearings. They suggest the rhetoric is being used to push for more restrictive internet laws.

jay rockefeller· cybersecurity· 9-11· c-span· senate

2:15:29 What is hot chicks? I don't know if they're hot or not just seems unusual to me that there's not that there's some sexist thing going on here And they're just all women. That's well. I'd see it worked because immediately I thought huh yeah, baby for you Yeah for me. It was great hmm you had a clip you wanted to play you said I just wanted to mention you know I was actually I can put this off to next week because I need to think about it some more because this is the this is all about the cyber security laws they're trying to pass. And listening to these congress people like Jay Rockefeller, who obviously they don't know anything about technology and they're trying to scare the public. In fact, essentially we have a 9-11 happening right before our very eyes listening to this guy play this clip. Which one are we playing? Jay Rockefeller is an idiot is the name of the clip.

2:16:26 Gee, that's a good one. for people who are up to speed on cyber security to keep up with other countries and other actors and it's critically important. I compare it to 9-11, except it's much more obvious than 9-11. 9-11, you suspected that there were people

2:17:04 coming in out of the country. And you didn't know, you couldn't keep up with their movements, but you had a bad feeling about it. And then there was, you know, something would go on in a Minneapolis FBI station and it wouldn't get to headquarters and then there were, you know, dots to be connected. People living in certain houses in San Diego. And it was all very clear that something big was going to happen, but we didn't know. Here, We know because it's happening warfare in cybersecurity is being waged and we're losing and Yeah, he is an idiot. We're losing. We're losing talking about well. They have millions of hits we're losing this total jabroni

2:17:53 And he's a Rockefeller, hello? I know, that's what's so weird about it. What do you mean? Well, you'd think he'd have some... he would have been given an education with all the money this family has. He wouldn't be such a, obviously, you know, just a cocktail party kid. But he walks around with it. You see him on C-SPAN. And the best part of C-SPAN is right before a hearing starts and right after. When they're all slapping each other on the back. That was great. Yeah, I did that. And he is arrogant. Just an MF, man. He's an arrogant guy. You ever get that? You ever see that? Oh yeah. Yeah, I agree with that.

CHAPTER 27 / 30 Discussion

UK Sobriety Orders, Alcohol Monitoring Tags

The British government is introducing "sobriety orders" for offenders committed for minor alcohol-fueled crimes. These orders involve the use of ankle tags that monitor blood alcohol levels every 30 minutes or GPS tags that alert authorities if a person enters a pub. The hosts compare this to the monitoring of celebrity Lindsay Lohan and criticize the expansion of state surveillance into personal habits.

united kingdom· sobriety orders· ankle tags· lindsay lohan· alcohol

2:18:33 Hey, the Lindsay Lohan Red Book prediction can be crossed off the list, my friend. What was the prediction? That it would be cool and everyone would have bracelets and be forced not to drink. Something like that. Yeah, it's in last year's book. Way back there. From the BBC. Sobriety orders now to be ordered by the government. Hello, Gitmo Nation East. Get off that island. You gotta hear this, this is crazy. Offenders who commit alcohol-fueled crimes are to be monitored with ankle tags and breath tested to ensure they stop drinking.

2:19:16 This was the thing with Lindsay Lohan. It's not like you can't drive. Look, you... And by the way, it's only for minor crimes. Here. Police will have powers to impose sobriety orders on drinkers cautioned for minor offenses such as criminal damage or public disorder. So if you're out there like, I'm drunk, the queen sucks, whatever. They can then take you to court and force you to wear a bracelet that monitors whether you're drinking or not. Every half hour it will check to see if there's alcohol in your bloodstream. Is this a shut up slave or what?

2:20:02 The orders would allow alcohol levels to be monitored either by these tags which test sobriety every half hour or by requiring offenders to attend a police station daily to be breathalyzed. Another type of tag Which this is great. Hey, you're now you're a dog. Okay now you're your UK government thinks you're a dog Another type of tag which has been tried out in England. It's already in use Uses a GPS system which alerts authorities when people visited certain proscribed areas such as pubs Please imagine that gig John. Hey John. We got it. We got sector 5. We got a human resource Looks like he's in the pub

2:20:45 Better pick that mofo up, gotta go get him. Go billy club him. I'm at a loss for words. Isn't that just amazing? It's unbelievable, especially with the drinking culture. Yeah, but for minor offenses, you know? It's like... Yeah, no, basically if you're a rowdy... Yeah. And you get, you know, the cops grab you, they can put a thing on you, you can't drink anymore. They pop you. And how long is that supposed to last? You can't have a drink in your own house. Let me see how I think it can have a drink in your own house is what they're telling me no Four months you have to wear it for four months Wow these new sobriety orders will allow us to tackle this problem more effectively and Demand that binge drinkers who commit crime such as being rowdy sober up I mean glad I left that hellhole can't even drink in your own house. I just

2:21:53 Can you imagine? Do you think they'll ever try that here? Well, they did it with Lindsay Lohan as a setup, but do you think... Oh yeah, sure they will. I mean, that's what, you know, the whole anti-drinking crusade is all about. I mean, it's working in France, for God's sake. And they're like a really, you know, a culture of people that really like to drink a lot. Yeah, and they've got they've cut way back because they're just all these These initiatives to keep people from drinking at all Wow. Wow, we'll be easy pickings. Yeah, I mean to me that was just like wow Wow, that's crazy. I was a kid and they didn't have all these onerous laws and you'd come, you know I used to work on a graveyard shift or no a swing shift So you get off around midnight or 1 in the morning or 2 in the morning? and so on Fridays when you get off work and you start driving home and

2:22:40 You would have a bunch of drunks on the road. You'd drink a beer in the car. I mean, like it used to be good. Well, actually, they drink beers in the car in Texas. Oh, yeah. But there'd be these guys that were out and out blatantly wasted. But you wouldn't, it wasn't like you couldn't tell. I mean, they were all over the road. They weren't trying to fake it. They were just going from one shoulder to the other. And you just time it and then you'd punch it. And you get past them. Yeah, like a man, damn it. Yeah, you're like a man. You punch it past them and you just keep going. Maybe flip flipping the bird or something hope that he tries to do it back and crashes. Well if you really had a sense of humor you'd get behind him and start turning your highlights on and off and on and off to drive him crazy but generally speaking you just get by him and go home. But that's not even the point it's like it's okay I mean yeah you shouldn't drive drunk you're a dick absolutely stop that but but to say you can't drink it's like a detox program forced

CHAPTER 28 / 30 Discussion

Afghanistan Shooting Investigation, Robert Bales

An Afghan parliamentary probe claims that up to 20 U.S. soldiers were involved in the killing of 16 civilians, contradicting the official report of a lone gunman, Sergeant Robert Bales. The hosts also discuss a downplayed assassination attempt on Defense Secretary Leon Panetta in Afghanistan. They critique a Morning Joe segment where a panelist mistakenly referred to Bales' wife as a "widow."

afghanistan· robert bales· panetta· npr· morning joe

2:23:38 I'm flabbergasted. I don't think it's even remotely as onerous as this thing you just read from the... Well, no, I know, but this is... Action 21 or whatever it's called. Hey, we gotta fill two and a half hours. Agenda 21. Alright, so there was one other thing that happened in PoppyStan. And I have a little bit of analysis on this. Oh, I have the best way. Before you go into that one, I've got the best clip. So I just set it up so we know what we're talking about here. This is about Sergeant Beal. No, no. Mine's about something completely different and I could get clip of the day. Oh, I'll cue up. Hold on. Don't do anything. Let me cue up clip of the day. But you do the sergeant first. How can there be two clips of the day? All right. Are you sure? It happened once before. Because I might have clip of the day.

2:24:26 Okay, maybe play it. Well you go first man. Go no. No I can't go first cuz mine's a punchline It's a light piece yours is heavy. Yeah, when I in light I have a light piece too. Okay, so the story that is being propagated and We talked about this last week or whatever is this guy snapped? And you know, we've read his profile now. They've leaked his name. Everyone knows who he is. And the word leaked his blog or his wife's blog. Yeah. So the guy snapped and he went out and he killed 16 people and children. Now, the Afghanistan press is reporting something differently.

2:25:07 A parliamentary probe said that up to 20 American troops were involved in Sunday's killing of 16 civilians. The probing delegation includes a whole list of lawmakers. I don't know who they are. It's all like Jirja, Abu, Latif, Padram and all that. The team spent two days in the province interviewing the bereaved families, tribal elders, survivors, collecting evidence at the site in the Panjwai district, which by the way is conveniently right along the pipeline there. Hamza Lali told Pajak Afghan News, and this could be propaganda, but you don't hear about this on the so-called news here. Their investigation showed there were 15 to 20 American soldiers who executed the brutal killings. We closely examined the site of the incident, talked to the families who lost their loved ones, the injured people and tribal elders, and apparently they also sexually assaulted two female victims before they were killed.

2:26:06 The lower house of Parliament Parliament delegation investigated the condor harsh shootings by US troops They also found that the troops then burned some of the bodies. That's a little different story than what we're getting over here So two things the first thing sorry, not just a little yeah, it's disturbing You know a lot of people are calling this like a gladio operation or like operation gladio where it's just meant to make everyone crazy and freak them out and So two clips. So the thing that got really underplayed is when Panetta went there and they promptly disarmed all of the Marines so that apparently no one would shoot him. I guess that's what they were afraid of. I'm just drawing a logical conclusion. But you do know that there was an attempt on Panetta's life, but that wasn't really reported. One of our producers clipped this for me. This is from Washington Week on NPR or Wash, yeah, Washington Week on NPR.

2:27:05 And they actually use one of our little quotes in this as they discuss what happened. And obviously there's a lot of security. They don't usually tell people that Panetta is coming. And there were a group of greeters, Marines, the most senior Marine there who was standing there. A truck had been hijacked by an Afghan interpreter. These are the most trusted people there are. The Afghans who work with the US and British military over there hijacked the truck, went barreling towards the greeting part.

2:27:45 And they had to jump out of the way. And then the truck ended up hitting a ditch and the guy either burst into flames because there was gasoline in his car and he planned on trying to hit Panetta's plane. Who knows? But the truth is we will never know. But all week, all during the week, it was totally downplayed. I think it's a really serious, serious... Yeah, nothing to see here. Yeah, nothing to see. There was quite a bit to see there. Good reporting there on NPR. Well, it's okay kind of kind of gossipy but well, he's but more interesting than normal crap Sounds like something we would talk about so then morning Joe now. This is a fine program journalistic integrity they always have a whole bunch of douche knuckles sitting around the table and Malika Brzezinski, whatever her name is is a girl is it Malika? I don't know Micah, whatever maybe whatever she's an idiot and

2:28:45 So they have one of their standard dudes who sits at the table, his name eludes me for a moment, and he said something where I went, what? And no one questioned it. I'm like, what? Afghanistan and the prosecution of this ought not to rest just on this soldier's shoulders. It should go right down the chain of command. How do you walk off a base? in the middle of the night, walk a half a mile or three quarters of a mile into a village armed and ready to kill without anyone noticing, without anyone triggering an alert. How does that happen? And what about warning signs on many levels? In this New York Times report on the front page this morning, Mika, one American official says it'll be a combination when it all comes out of stress, alcohol and domestic issues. He just snapped. And we were talking about this. I just have to say... Yeah.

2:29:35 to bring in the marital problems, to put any of this on his wife, who is now a widow with a three-year-old and a four-year-old. What?! He's a wi- she's a widow? Is the guy dead? That's very funny. No, I think it's bizarre. Yeah. So, maybe he's dead, and we just haven't been told that. It's possible. That was- I was like, what? And Malika Mica just going, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. The poor widow. Widow- who's now a widow? Wow, okay.

CHAPTER 29 / 30 Discussion

US Army iPad App, Afghan Agriculture Training

A local news report featured U.S. troops in Afghanistan using an iPad app called "e-Afghan Ag" to teach local farmers agricultural techniques. The app allows soldiers to take photos of sick chickens or trees and send them to experts at the USDA or Fresno State for diagnosis. The hosts mock the practicality of using high-end tablets for farming advice in a war zone.

afghanistan· ipad· usda· fresno state· agriculture

2:30:15 Well, let's see what happens with that. Of course the guy with a sloppy job of talking but yeah Yeah, but if I was sitting there I go what yeah, well, they best because when you're on these shows you're not paying much attention You're thinking you're just trying to find your close-up in the in the other monitor. Make sure you look good Yeah, that's the way that's the problem with all these news shows and all the media. It's terrible making sure the Starbucks coffee logo is pointed towards the front and Because that's how you get paid extra. Alright, what's your funny clip then? Alright, so I ran into this clip. It was a local news report. It was pushed around by someone. And so it turns out now we're... the little report on the poppy fields, the little report on what we're going to be doing over there in Afghanistan with our soldiers. We're going to do two things. One, we're going to teach, apparently, because they don't know what the hell they're doing, Afghanis how to farm.

2:31:13 Because they're idiots. Because they don't know how to do it. And they apparently don't even know what a chicken, you know, they don't know anything about chickens. And it's all gonna be done with the help of a few soldiers and the iPad and an app because there's nothing more practical than an iPad out in the middle of nowhere in Afghanistan where you can't get any connectivity anyway. But it's gonna be all done with an iPad and an app and this is all very, very interesting. Afghanistan is also the world's biggest grower of poppies used to make heroin which in turn helps fund the insurgency. Spinach is a major crop that's grown over there. These troops will encourage poppy farmers to grow legal crops and here in a climate very similar to where they're headed they spend a week learning the basics

2:32:01 from planting and soil to irrigation, key ag issues that face 80% of all Afghan citizens. These units will also be able to connect extremely poor farmers with the latest technology through e-Afghan Ag, an app that's linked to agriculture experts in the U.S. on hand to provide information. feedback and possible solutions. Soldier Jared Madison says with the app he can help diagnose a tree or even a chicken that doesn't look quite right. If it's not in the application there's this awesome reach back function where I can take a picture of that chicken and then send it back to these guys at the USDA, these guys at Fresno State and they get back to me within 12 to 24 hours an exact answer what's wrong with this chicken and what I can do to help them.

2:32:42 That's awesome. It's just totally, it's totally awesome man. This app is rocking. And by the way, it's iPad threes. We just had got a big order of iPad threes because they got retina screens and the high, lots of megapixels in the camera so that I can see the chicken. Is this the stupidest thing you've ever heard in your life? What was this on? What channel? It was on the local news. Wow. Well, of course, but it's just a promotion for the iPad. Yes, no, it's a promotion for the iPad. That's the point. But it's like, do they actually think that these guys can get to, I don't know, how's my LTE 3G, 4G connection here out in the middle of nowhere, Afghanistan? I will say, you'd be amazed. There are five big major, you know, they probably have better connectivity there than we have here, honestly.

2:33:28 Well, I'm not so sure. Whatever the case is, I don't see him taking a picture of a chicken and then waiting 24 hours to get the results saying the chicken's got mange. Hey, that chicken man, he's not walking right. Send me a video. Take a picture of the chicken and send it to Fresno State. Chicken don't look right, man. Take a picture with your iPad and the app, the aggro, go to aggroapp.com. Yeah, man. Hey, hey listen you Afghan you numbnuckle put seed in dirt put water on dirt There you go. I taught you how to grow brother. This is a stupid oh Anyway, that's my yeah, it's not clip of the day now. You're the clip is good of the day ish It's good, but it's not it doesn't quite qualify There was just one last thing I want to be the pothole clip was better in terms of its conciseness Pothole clip was good. Yeah, it was good

CHAPTER 30 / 30 Discussion

Ron Wyden, Mark Udall Secret Law Letter

Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder criticizing the Justice Department's reliance on secret interpretations of the Patriot Act. The senators argue that there is a significant gap between public understanding of the law and the government's secret claims of authority. The hosts praise the senators for challenging the lack of transparency in intelligence operations.

ron wyden· mark udall· eric holder· patriot act· secret law

2:34:26 What do I have here? That can wait for Thursday. That can wait for Thursday. We got UFO stuff. I can give you some UFO stuff. Yeah, Thursday. Yeah, because it's about Washington State actually, which is kind of cool. Oh, is there UFOs up there? Yeah. So I'll get to that as a teaser. But a letter was sent to the general. That's how we call him Attorney General Eric Holder sent by two Democrats Ron Wyden and Mark Udall. They're both Democrats, right? I think so. I I believe so. Wyden is always complaining about stuff. And Udall, is he powerful? Does he have any juice? I think Udall does. I think they both do. They're very high seniority. Udall has some juice. I know he has some juice. Now, Wyden does too. So we've been waiting for

2:35:26 some Democrats to start attacking Holder and this may be the start of it. They sent a letter, these two senators, powerful senators on March 15th. Are they senators or are they congressmen? They're senators. So they're powerful. Wyden and Udall, both United States senators. I have the PDF of the letter. Alright. So it's a, I have the actual letter in PDF form. Dear Attorney General Holder, hey Eric, how you doing bro? We have discussed the dangers of relying on secret interpretations of public laws with you on multiple occasions, both through correspondence and in person. While we know that you are generally aware of our views on the subject, we feel obliged to comment specifically on the Justice Department's recent attempt to seek dismissal of two lawsuits that have been filed under the Freedom of Information Act that specifically pertain to the problem of secret law. I'll skip ahead.

2:36:21 to the pertinent parts and this is a pdf in the show notes 3902.nashownotes.com marked up for your convenience. We believe most Americans would be stunned to learn the details of how these secret court opinions have interpreted section 215 of the Patriot Act. As we see it, there is now a significant gap between what most Americans think the law allows and what the government secretly claims the law allows. This is a problem. Why? Because it is impossible to have an informed public debate about what the law should say when the public doesn't know what the government thinks the law says. Skipping ahead. A number of senators, there was another letter signed by 12 senators,

2:37:04 who are familiar with these secret legal interpretations, including the two of us, have pressed the executive branch to declassify these interpretations so that Congress and the public can have an informed debate about the proper scope of the law. We have personally raised the issue in meetings, hearings, and correspondence. The crux of the Justice Department's argument for keeping the official interpretation of the law secret is that this secrecy prevents U.S. adversaries from understanding exactly what intelligence agencies are allowed to do. We see this as equal to the KGB in the 70s and 80s. We hope you will reconsider the Justice Department's stance on the issue of secret legal interpretations as we continue to believe that this stance is contrary to the core principles of American democracy. I'm very happy about these guys. This is good. That is good.

2:38:02 I like these as Widen and Udall. So they're, you know, these are kind of good guys, I guess. I would say don't take any small airplane rides would be my advice. Yeah, both of them. Especially together. That would be my recommendation. Oh, what a shame. It's amazing. It just blew up in midair and went down in flames. I have no idea how it happened. And there you have it. There are some good people out there. They're trying, but not very hard. So it looks like John will be putting together an executive memo with regard to the mailing list, and you can sign up for that anywhere in the show notes. 3902.nashownotes.com, noagendashow.com. Of course, we have a store at noagendanation.com. You can always pick something up from there. And I guess we'll be back on Thursday with more media assassination. So we'll be looking out, see what people are doing, bringing you real information.

2:39:08 And I'll be doing it here from Camp MoFo in Austin, Teja in the drone star state. In the morning to y'all, my name is Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's not the kind of weather I'm looking for. It's got the jet stream hitting us, it's freezing out. I'm gonna actually take a run up to the Washington State next week. I'm John C. Dvorak. All right everybody, remember, know it. Dvorak.org slash NA. Support this program. We need all the help we can get. America is one big pothole right now. We have not paid attention to our roads and bridges. We haven't! Dvorak.org slash NA.