Episode 389 · Thursday, 8 March 2012

Camels Everywhere!

A viral humanitarian campaign masks a scramble for Ugandan oil as the executive branch claims the unilateral power to act as judge, jury, and executioner.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 389

About this episode

The Kony 2012 viral campaign is exposed as a sophisticated propaganda tool designed to secure Western oil interests for Tullow Oil in Uganda. While celebrities like George Clooney and Rihanna promote the Invisible Children video, financial filings reveal millions in revenue flowing through front organizations to justify an AFRICOM military presence in Central Africa. The Lord's Resistance Army is characterized as a diminished force being used as a pretext for permanent regional intervention.

Attorney General Eric Holder defended the extrajudicial assassination of American citizens in a speech at Northwestern University, claiming executive authority overrides traditional judicial process. Meanwhile, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Admiral Dempsey suggested to a Senate committee that UN or NATO resolutions could bypass Congressional authorization for military action in Syria. This expansion of executive power coincides with Senator John McCain demanding airstrikes against Bashar al-Assad and the discovery of the Leviathan gas fields in the Mediterranean, which has reignited tensions over the Law of the Sea Treaty.

CNN anchor Erin Burnett faces ridicule for a bizarre editorial connecting Rick Santorum to presidential camel history, while Syrian activist Danny Dayem is accused of staging battlefield reports for Anderson Cooper. John C. Dvorak recalls the spartan conditions of Soviet-era Aeroflot flights as the hosts analyze the suspicious shutdown of a Romney family blog. The episode concludes with Pat Robertson’s surprising endorsement of marijuana legalization and reports of Germany seeking to repatriate its gold from the New York Federal Reserve.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 389 Introduction, South by Southwest Observations

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 389 from Austin, Texas, and Northern Silicon Valley. They discuss International Women's Day and the arrival of tech industry attendees at the Bergstrom International Airport for the South by Southwest (SXSW) festival. Curry mentions hosting Molly Wood at his home during the event.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· austin· south by southwest· mollywood· international women's day

00:01 Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. It's Thursday, March 8th, 2012. Time for your Gizmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 389-er. This is no agenda. Practicing my duck and cover for solar mayhem here at Camp Mofo in the capital of the drone star state Austin, Tejas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And with nothing clever to say from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Well, how disappointing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the one, that's like the last thing I do before the show. It's like, you know... You write something clever. Well, clever. I don't know if it's so clever. Well, there you have it. It's better than, I had nothing clever to say.

00:52 That's clever. Yeah, except I've heard it many times in the opening. No, no, no. I've never said that ever. You can't find one documented case where I've ever said that. Oh, you know, if there wasn't so much good stuff on C-SPAN, I'd prove you wrong and I'd go and find it. It's only 348, 388 episodes that I have to listen to, but I'd find it. Just the beginnings. It's in there somewhere. It's not. So it's International Women's Day. Yes, happy International Women's Day everybody and just before the show we decided that we needed a men's day. There is one. There's an International Men's Day. It's on the 19th of November. That's right. Also known as IBJ Day. I don't believe that's the case. I don't want to rose. Anyway, I'm tired. I was up late last night. Had to pick up. This is kind of cool.

01:47 Picked up we picked up miss Mollywood from the airport. Yeah. Yeah, she's she's at the s by s WW Yeah, she slept in the house here. Huh? It's now the place is rocking Yeah, you should start and do a party there for the ship for the event. No No, I don't need any onlookers. Yeah, get the hot tub. Oh all ramped up. Miss Mickey miss Molly Well, it's life good or what? As long as she doesn't come back to the house with anecdotes from the event. It was so funny, we were at, so the flight was delayed by two hours, so we're at Bergstrom International, it's like 1130. And you can just see the San Francisco flight arrived for South by Southwest. No, I cannot imagine. Oh my goodness, everyone has their douchebag uniform on. Hey, I'm so hip, I'm here for South by.

02:50 Never been you know what I mean right you know exactly what I mean Yeah, you go to these things and you go to the airport or you when you'd go on one of the flights you look around go Or if you just coincidentally flying somewhere, and you look around you go. There's a bunch of these tech guys here a certain They're like a genus a quad. Oh yeah, there's a lot of juniors a quad going on. Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting Anyway, in the morning to you, Jean-Claude de Vauhac. In the morning to you, Sir Adam Currie, the ships at sea. Hello and boots on the ground high and feets in the air. How you doing? How you doing? And of course our human resources who dutifully have checked in once again for our live broadcast of this program Which occurs every Thursday and Sunday morning at 9 a.m. Pacific Standard get mo nation West time and no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net I've good to see everybody on board there to correct us when we fall off the wagon and to yell out stupid things like

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Kony 2012 Viral Video, Uganda Oil Interests

The viral Kony 2012 video is analyzed as a propaganda tool designed to justify U.S. military intervention in Central Africa. Evidence suggests the campaign serves to protect Western oil interests, specifically Tullow Oil's billion-dollar finds in Uganda. The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) is described as a diminished force, while the video is framed as a means to establish a permanent base for AFRICOM.

joseph kony· lra· uganda· tullow oil· africom· bill clinton· invisible children

03:48 you should get a Mollywood slept here sign in your bedroom. Like Abraham Lincoln slept here. Mollywood slept here in 2012. So I have to say I'm very proud of our no agenda listeners, John. Very good for you. Very, very proud. Well, I think we've made a significant difference in some people's lives. And that significant difference is they're noticing the bullcrap when it comes out. They smell the stink before they even have to listen to us on the show talk about it. And in this case, I'm referring to the Kony 2012 video, which has gone viral. Kony Phony. The Phony Kony. Oh, good. Write it down. The Phony Kony.

04:38 uh... this is a big chris parole i was when i went to tweet that were on the air yeah i'd i'd do the parolees on my stream of things and he said he had some complaint about it and when chris is complaining about something is pretty unusual i don't know if chris listens to the show though i don't think so i'm sure he does not well he's not he's a smart guy But I got so not I need to just set emails from people you got the typical like hey man This doesn't smell right so we got a lot of those appreciate it And there are two million views though. Yeah, it's a video. It's outrageous. This is a 30-minute video about Joseph Kony

05:17 and a lot of people actually did some significant research as well which was quite nice to see. I would like to take you back though to No Agenda episode 348 of October last year. So there was one other piece of news which kind of slipped in and I saw all kinds of propaganda about it and I happen to know a little bit about the topic and I thought my research because of course whenever you have something as big as Occupy Wall Street and the Occupy movement, hey remember that man? Remember that Occupy thing we used to talk about? There's all kinds of things happening. Legislation takes place, executive orders are carried out, boots are sent to the ground. Breaking news tonight, the United States is now involved in seven conflicts. President Obama says he's dispatching roughly a hundred of our troops to Uganda to battle one of Central Africa's most brutal rebel groups, the Lord's Resistance Army, which has been operating for 20 years in Uganda.

06:17 The White House says the first American troops arrived in Uganda Wednesday, but ultimately they will also deploy to South Sudan, the Central African Republic and the Democratic Republic of Congo as advisors, says the White House. The Lord's Resistance Army began its attacks in Uganda more than two decades ago. It's recently been pushing westward. Human rights groups say it's... So you remember we talked about this, right? Yeah, we didn't obviously go into it. Well, we did actually mean to it and if you look at there's a whole This is all you do is type in this Kony 2012 and then the word scam Well, we went we did go into it because at the time Clinton bill

07:00 Had been down in Uganda, remember, with his Clinton Global Initiative. He's been there for a long time actually, and he had a lot of involvement in Uganda in 1990. But at the time just before this happened, you will recall that there was a huge oil strike in Uganda. As in, not in like people laying down arms and not working, but there was a big flood of oil. So this video comes out at a very opportune moment where I read you from the news of February the 17th through the 20th, Tulo Oil say they have found another $1 billion find of oil. And along with Tulo Oil, it's, remember those, the guys we listened to the quarterly report, the conference call, Aranaconda, I think it is,

07:56 Those guys that Texas Oil Company. So they're down there as well. So of course when you have more oil being discovered we have to ramp it up a little bit. So I actually watched this video and well I'm sure you didn't. The Kony 2012? Yeah, you didn't watch it did you? I watched the beginning and the end but this video is actually well go on and on. There's a history to this video. Yes. So I pulled three short clips from the video, because of course I watched the entire thing. Let's listen to the mission first. Because now we know what to do. Here it is. Ready? Ready! In order for Kony to be arrested this year, the Ugandan military has to find him. In order to find him, they need the technology and training to track him in the vast jungle. That's where the American advisors come in.

08:52 But in order for the American advisors to be there... Note, advisors is a military. This is what we're calling the troops we've sent in. Yeah, that's what we call them. That's their job, advisor. They have a big patch. US military advisor. ...has to deploy them. They've done that. But if the government doesn't believe the people care about arresting Kony, the mission will be cancelled. Cancelled! In order for the people to care, they have to know. And they will only know if Coney's name is everywhere. The LRA, Lord's Resistance Army, when he kind of went into hiding in Sudan and the Congo. And, you know, according to all reports, governmental certainly, he only has about 200 so-called troops. But as we discussed in the previous, and I actually have the clips, you can go on the show notes, 389.nashownotes.com. You can listen to our previous discussion about it. We don't have to reopen the entire thing.

10:02 The atrocities that have been going on in Uganda have been probably even worse because of President Museveni. And Clinton is a big supporter of this guy and he has effectively taken the Acholi tribe, the people of the Acholi peoples, about two million of them, and has thrown them into a displaced persons encampment, which you could also just call Auschwitz. And there's some videos and other stuff in the show notes so you can see what's really going on there. And Kony is effectively being accused of what Museveni himself has been doing, and there is no logical reason to have this huge media hype campaign to go and get Kony other than

10:50 to create another sort of Al-Qaeda genocide, massacre, slaughter in Africa so we can establish a long wish of the United States which is AFRICOM, the African Command, which we have not yet found a home for in Africa. And of course when you have AFRICOM in there, then it's very handy to use that to protect the oil interests of the West, which have heavy involvement from Bill Clinton. The real tip off in this video of course, whenever you need to sell something to the public, who do you call? George Clooney.

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Celebrity Endorsements, Invisible Children Production History

The involvement of high-profile celebrities like George Clooney, Rihanna, and P. Diddy in promoting the Kony 2012 campaign is criticized. The film, directed by Jason Russell, is revealed to be a recut version of footage dating back to 2004. The hosts question the authenticity of the emotional appeals used in the production.

george clooney· jason russell· invisible children· p. diddy· rihanna· bobby bailey

11:28 I'd like indicted war criminals to enjoy the same level of celebrity as me. That seems fair. That's our objective is to just shine a light on it. If our goal is to get Kony's name known, the known should join us. We are targeting 20 of the most diverse and influential culture makers to speak out about Kony and make him famous. So Clooney's in there, but not just Clooney, John. Not just Clooney. Wherever there's Clooney, who is following close behind? Well, if you go to coney2012.com, you have the who's who of this bull crap. Well, before you go into the celebrities, who is Clooney's handler?

12:14 Oh yeah, that guy. Prendergrast! We thought that if the government... I think, by the way, I think he's one of the board members or something. Yeah, of course, of course. Invisible children group. Here he is. We thought that if the government knew, they would do something to stop him. But everyone in Washington we talked to said there is no way the United States will ever get involved in a conflict where our national security or financial interests aren't at stake. No administration, Republican, Democrat, Obama, Bush, Clinton, doesn't matter, would do enough because it's simply not an important enough issue on the radar screen of American foreign policy. So this is a video, and particularly the way the director of the film, his name is Jason Russell, the way he abused his own child to propagate this lie

13:07 is I think Goebbels would be pleased, would be just smiling from ear to ear how beautifully done this campaign is and it is produced by the Invisible Children's charity. Yeah, well let's make something clear to people out there. We had a note from a filmmaker saying, gee I can't believe this guy and his kid did this movie. This movie was actually done in 2004. It was an hour long and it was finally released in 2006 and got no anything, got no notice. And it was recut to this short version.

13:53 and it was actually directed by Russell Bate, a guy named Bobby Bailey, and Lauren Poole, another woman, or another guy, I guess, I don't know. And it is not a short, I mean, this is not something that was done, cranked out overnight, and I'm not even sure what the situation with this kid, I didn't see the original film, but it was... I think that was added to it. That was all new. Maybe not, I mean, this could be the kid's 40 by now, for all we know. but uh... the kids a little bit much of a should be in the in the show glee seems to me more than that handsome kid i'll give you that he's a handsome kid failure handsome so i looked into the uh... of course uh... you know me i'd love to read some legal documents

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Invisible Children Financials, Charity Front Organizations

An examination of the financial filings for the Invisible Children charity reveals $10 million in revenue, with significant funding from the Oprah Winfrey Foundation and Humanity United. A commercial entity, Invisible Children Feature Film LLC, received $850,000 for production. The board of directors includes actress Kristen Bell and her partner Jedediah Jenkins.

invisible children llc· humanity united foundation· oprah winfrey· jedediah jenkins· kristen bell

14:36 So I looked at Invisible Kids, the Invisible Children, the charity, they're $9.94. So they did a nice $10 million in revenue this year. Yeah, $10 million from all the suckers. Well, the suckers are Humanity United Foundation. And if you go to Humanity United Foundation, to their website, that's where you see where all the big money is from. By the way, their donation in this past year, $333,000. Hello, magic numbers everywhere. But also the Oprah Winfrey Foundation, she got suckered. She really got suckered. She put in two million dollars. But as you go through it, you see that the movie itself received $850,000 to produce the movie and that was paid to the Invisible Children feature film LLC.

15:28 So that's a commercial venture. This is how it always works. You know, you've got to have a front and then of course the production is actually done outside of the charity. And the guy who heads that up is Jedediah Jenkins, who is also a director. The director of idea development I Need that on my business card for invisible children like that so not even a conflict of interest since it's not Mentioned specifically they mentioned the guy who's on the board who sells the printer and toner cartridges, but not that Jedediah Jenkins Actually produce the film he is of course Kristen Bell's boyfriend, so we've got the whole Hollywood right if you look on the The you see the Board of Advisors aboard directors Kristen Bell's actually listed of course. She's stupid look at the PDF of their annual report screwing the guy

16:23 And so of course what made this go viral is that they have convinced celebrities of the ilk of Rihanna and P. Diddy to tweet out about this fantastic video. And let me just say as a show business executive, you should be ashamed that you are actually putting your African brothers and sisters in such harm's way by propagating such lies. And you are evil hereby. I renounce P. Diddy. I renounce. And Rihanna. I renounce Rihanna. They are hereby evil or just stupid or probably a combination of the two. And curiously P Diddy wasn't given the 20. I mean this had 2012 also refers to 20 celebrities and 12 politicians. He was not in there. He's not in there. I know because he's already on board you see so they are they already got him but there's a I have one two three at least 20 different links

17:23 And by the way if you look at the website for invisible children you see the the the filmmaker and the board of directors in the banner header go scroll up to the top John of the website. Yeah, hold on. They're standing there with automatic rifles looking all like hey, we're cool. We're fighting for peace with weapons. I don't know exactly what the what they're trying to say with that, but that's creepy. Creepy that you're you're pretending to save children the invisible children who being Stolen and maimed and raped and turned into soldiers which by the way has been going on on the Mussolini Ugandans the Ugandan government side more than anywhere else is cultural almost

18:05 But you watch now as Africom starts to ramp up. We will see Africom being firmly planted right there in northern Uganda, southern Sudan, the Congo. And you will see encampments popping up all around the Tullow oil fields and the lake there. Was it Lake George? I think it is. Lake Charles, Lake Charles, I think. I think it's funny they use the Amazon cloud for all their stuff. Yeah. Without being able to match the URL, how hard is that? I know, they can't even get it. Yeah, I know. Here's the URL, pops up as invisiblechildren.com.s3, which is the Amazon system. The S3 cloud. Dash website, I mean that's lame. That's really bad. Webby 101, you can do better than that. I know, I know.

18:54 But yeah, so I'm very proud of our no agenda listeners who immediately went this doesn't feel right This has got to be wrong and you're right and this Kony guy all of a sudden so important we find him He has not been on the scene since 2006 six years ago six years ago, but now it's important you watch it ramp up the last time we had this we had our Our, what is it, our experts, our advisors? Tech experts too. Yeah, our tech experts go in and this will be the start of Africom. That's a possibility. I like the idea that they would put it in Uganda. It's a perfect place. And Bill Clinton greased the wheels, man. He greased the wheels. And he's an advisor to Tullo. He's an advisor to the Texas oil companies.

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Kony 2012 Website, Targeted Politicians

The Kony 2012 website's list of targeted "culture makers" and policymakers is scrutinized for its specific inclusions. Representative Kay Granger of Texas is highlighted due to her positions on the Subcommittee for Defense and the Council on Foreign Relations. The hosts suggest the site's design and target list are strategically crafted to influence specific political and corporate figures.

kay granger· ileana ros-lehtinen· stephen harper· mark zuckerberg· council on foreign relations

19:40 So it makes nothing but sense. So let's take a look at just one more thing. And of course, we got to kick the Chiners out. Well, that's always given and it's always a good thing. So I want you to go to the. Kony 2012 calm site yes and look at what I have to really give me the Amazon URL because I can't remember no no just Kony 2012 calm and then the Amazon URL or URL automatically website us East not one that Amazon AWS Okay, all right. Yeah, I'm there. I'm okay, so we have our 20 celebrities which you know some of them say where do you get the kit I?

20:23 I got to get I want you to I want you to look further dead and we're just skip the celebrities because it's ludicrous I mean you could pick any 20 in the culture makers Oh Bill O'Reilly really gee you know what that doesn't mean he's done anything these are the people they targeting or Rihanna's on there look they got Rihanna yeah they got her targeted and she's she took the bait they should like put an X over her face when they get her yeah Just for good measure no matter what all right your buddy Bono Bono. Yeah, all right now. Okay, so Policymakers yeah, okay, oh

21:01 Oh boy, who do we have here? So let's go over these, you know, again, how many people fell for this is minimal except Clinton. Of course he's at the top. Okay. I would like you to look at this list and tell me if there's at least two people out of place in so far as if you're just going to pick famous politicians, you would, would, would you pick these two? Let me give you a hint. Women who you've never heard of like Kay Granger. And Eileena Ross-Lathinen, I've heard of her actually. I see her on C-SPAN all the time. I've never seen her. This picture is not her realistic image. And why of all the pictures, this is a question I'm asking you. If you notice the color scheme of the site which is black and red, there's only one person wearing any color. And that's Kay. Yeah. Well, Stephen Harper has blue.

21:56 Well, on my monitor it's barely noticeable. Kate Granger stands out. I did a little research. I could not come up with any rationale for her being on this list or why they're making her up. I can tell you why. Okay, go. A, she's from Texas. We have lots of oil companies. B, she's on the subcommittee for defense. Oh yeah, well, yeah, she's on a couple subcommittees in my plight. And also a member of the... Council on foreign relations come on man. She qualifies. What are you talking about? What more do you need? Why don't they have our friend? Aaron on here on this list somewhere seems to me she's got more or wolf blitzer Where's he would want to target him? Mark Zuckerberg they must think he's the dumbest guy in the world and I bet you Zuckerberg will come out and do it. Okay? Facebook Zuckerberg's not that stupid Facebook update

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

Rush Limbaugh Slut Controversy, Republican Debate Distraction

The controversy surrounding Rush Limbaugh's comments about Sandra Fluke is characterized as a deliberate media distraction. The theory posits that the focus on contraception and "slut" rhetoric was engineered to move the Republican primary conversation away from religious issues that were harming Mitt Romney. The hosts link the ownership of Clear Channel by Bain Capital to the timing of the outburst.

rush limbaugh· sandra fluke· mitt romney· george stephanopoulos· bain capital· clear channel

22:54 See the children a big you know largest promotion at the end of the at the beginning of the movie yes, oh yeah at the beginning right there, so they were Facebook it's got nothing to do with anything, but they gave it this huge promotion obviously to get him on board so this is We don't have to but it's an oil scam, and that's it and that's the end of it done clear now There was one other beautiful piece of promotion that we also have to just revisit for a second. We talked about it because a lot happened with the Rush Limbaugh slut thing between Sunday and now. Yeah, which you poo-pooed when I brought it up. Well, no I did not poo-poo it, but I'd like to go back and explain again what really happened here. So I'm going to go back to Republican X Factor reality show debate

23:50 I think number five, when Democratic operative and agent George Stephanopoulos threw this question out at Mitt Romney, very significant. States have the right to ban contraception or is that trumped by a constitutional right to privacy? George, this is an unusual topic that you're raising. States have a right to ban contraception. So this was completely out of the blue, completely what? I remember we talked about it and Romney was befuddled by it. It wasn't a topic of conversation at all. He even turned to Ron Paul and said, you're our constitutional expert. What the hell is this question all about? Exactly. So here's my theory, and we discussed it at the time.

24:34 is this was meant to move the conversation away from any of the issues the Republican Party was talking about in the debates and focus clearly on this and for weeks we had religious bull crap one after another planted by George Stephanopoulos. Now, very key, Mitt Romney Still receives an annuity although it no longer works for them from Bain Capital Bain Capital owns Clear Channel Clear Channel owns premier radio networks. This thing was getting so out of hand They had to turn the focus away from the stupid religious debate and they succeeded By the call coming into their boy Rush Limbaugh saying dude. I don't care what you do distract them from the debate about

25:22 the contraceptives and the religious issue, focus it on you. And he did his job. He went, she's a slut, she's a prostitute, and that was the only thing you heard about. Gone was the conversation about religion and contraceptives and women's health. That was wiped off the table. And he had no problem doing it. So he lost a couple of douchebag sponsors, whatever. He doesn't care. This is how willing they were to go all the way into this. And I think it's brilliant strategy that we've seen unfold before our very eyes and only NOAA Jenda listeners really are able to see the entire picture.

26:01 Are you with me or not? Did the conversation immediately switch? Yeah, there's something, there's a couple of fishy things about it and that would explain it of course. One is Limbaugh went on about it for four days. Stopped just in time for Super Tuesday. Why hasn't he been sued? He won't be. It's paid off. He's obviously been and if he is going to get sued they're going to pick it up for him. Yeah, exactly. And it definitely took the attention away from the, especially Santorum, who seems to be the one that went down the rabbit hole. That's right, Santorum had the whole surge going on and they had to immediately stop everything. The whole media talked about nothing else but slut, slut, slut, slut, slut. That's all that it was. It was, the media is so easy to play. The only ones who don't seem to be able to get any PR is you and me.

26:53 We're the only guys that don't know how to do this. We're not doing it because we're not playing the game. I mean even the porn industry did better than we did. They picked up on this thing. Porn in the valley, Southern California probably comes to mind. But soon that could all change because the billion dollar porn industry is seriously considering moving its operations here to our valley. Anita Roman joins us live now to explain. This is Arizona. Sweeping health regulations will require porn performers in the state of California to wear a condom when on location. This is such a... When on location, I love that. What does that mean? On location in the bedroom?

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

California Porn Industry, Potential Move to Arizona

The adult film industry is considering relocating from California to Phoenix, Arizona, following new health regulations requiring performers to wear condoms. Industry figures like Taryn Thomas argue against government overreach, while critics like Shelly Lubin warn of potential social impacts. A performer compares the condom mandate to a construction worker's hard hat, arguing it changes the final product.

porn industry· phoenix· california· condom mandate· taryn thomas· shelly lubin

26:01 Are you with me or not? Did the conversation immediately switch? Yeah, there's something, there's a couple of fishy things about it and that would explain it of course. One is Limbaugh went on about it for four days. Stopped just in time for Super Tuesday. Why hasn't he been sued? He won't be. It's paid off. He's obviously been and if he is going to get sued they're going to pick it up for him. Yeah, exactly. And it definitely took the attention away from the, especially Santorum, who seems to be the one that went down the rabbit hole. That's right, Santorum had the whole surge going on and they had to immediately stop everything. The whole media talked about nothing else but slut, slut, slut, slut, slut. That's all that it was. It was, the media is so easy to play. The only ones who don't seem to be able to get any PR is you and me.

26:53 We're the only guys that don't know how to do this. We're not doing it because we're not playing the game. I mean even the porn industry did better than we did. They picked up on this thing. Porn in the valley, Southern California probably comes to mind. But soon that could all change because the billion dollar porn industry is seriously considering moving its operations here to our valley. Anita Roman joins us live now to explain. This is Arizona. Sweeping health regulations will require porn performers in the state of California to wear a condom when on location. This is such a... When on location, I love that. What does that mean? On location in the bedroom?

27:30 Hi, I'm on location here in the Arizona Valley and oh hold on John are you wearing your condom? We're on location. We can't report without our condoms. Take effect on March 5th at just a few days away. Well those in the industry say this is an attempt to regulate how movies are shot and they say they're fighting back and tonight they brought that fight to Phoenix. Do you want to hear some of the funny porn stars talk about it? Of course! This is the only time we have this opportunity. This is gold! Adult movie star and film producer Taryn Thomas signing autographs for fans tonight at the first ever adult film convention in Phoenix. It's the government and their nanny laws. It's overstepping their boundaries.

28:13 I love the rationale. Vin Diesel slow down man slow down your movies dangerous, but the James Bond have to wear tactical gear Filmmaker Michael whiteacre says he's already seen a change producers actors He says are packing up and moving to a new Valley one with no restrictions whiteacre says more shooting means more money but former

28:53 Former porn actress and founder of the Pink Cross Foundation, Shelly Lubin, warns of something else. I love how they put in a little counterpoint. Very good. Good package. What they bring with them is rampant STDs, prostitution, drug trafficking, and let me tell you, they're going to recruit young women in Phoenix. Duh! Bring that to TAMOS! Oh and hey, there's no drug trafficking in Phoenix. No, none whatsoever. There's no prostitution in Phoenix. I said bring the porn industry to Austin. Come on, we got UT here. Liming it up. Yeah, let's rock this joint. ...workers of course, I'm gonna flop to that as well. Amy Brooks started making internet... Here's the best one. This chick is awesome. ...movies in Phoenix in 2008 and like Thomas, is willing to come back if it means freedom of expression. Say a construction worker

29:39 A worker has to wear a hard hat, okay? But this building he's building is still gonna look the same when it's done, okay? But if a performer has to wear a condom, it's not gonna show up the same way and it's not gonna be the same way in the end. That is the best. That is Miss America good, I tell ya. Look, especially a worker has to wear a hard hat, but when he's done, the building's like still the building. But, you know, when I gotta wear, you know, we have a condom, then the movie's not the same. What a rationale. However, there's a couple problems with this idea of moving to Phoenix. One is a lot of actresses that are in the porn industry actually always wanted to be and probably still in some vague way hope to be movie stars. Yeah. So you got to be in the LA area. You can't all of a sudden be in Phoenix. Say you have to be in the milieu. Say it. You have to be in the milieu. My favorite word.

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Obama Contraceptive Mandate, Pharmaceutical Industry Profits

The Obama administration's mandate for insurance coverage of contraceptives is framed as a windfall for the pharmaceutical industry. By eliminating co-pays, the policy encourages the use of expensive brand-name drugs over generics, benefiting companies like Pfizer. This shift is expected to drive up overall insurance premiums despite the lack of immediate cost to the consumer.

barack obama· pfizer· sally sussman· healthcare mandate· generics· insurance rates

30:34 Yeah, and so she you know so that so I don't know I mean the thing the real solution to this problem that they have a dilemma as it were Is to get that law overturned? Well there was a nice little setup in here, and I was tipped off to this um ticked off to it tipped off Oh tipped so right after I mean literally hours after President Obama and his administration put through this mandate He went to a New York City fundraising dinner, $35,800 per pop, hosted by top lobbyist Sally Sussman, VP for Government Affairs at Pfizer. And the reason why this is significant, because this now mandates that your health care provider pay for contraceptive in its entirety. So guess what they're not going to choose? Generics.

31:36 There's plenty of generics. Everybody is loving this. The pharmaceutical industry is like, yay, Barack, thank you once again. You've done it. This is fantastic. So now everyone will be prescribing the brand name, anti-conception medicine. Everything will be brand name. There's no copay, okay? So this is a bonanza for the pharma industry. It's a double whammy. Yeah, this is the scam. Yep. We got a name. We got a note. I think we both did from one of our producers talking about how his $5 generic, you know, something he had for, I think, some, some army. He's the, um, the new truck. What is the tri plan? The, or it was a couple episodes ago.

32:29 He's a veteran and now all of a sudden his provider is forced to no longer provide generics. It all has to be brand name. Yeah, it goes from $5 to $500 or some ridiculous thing. And of course it doesn't cost the person with insurance anymore because it's all with this co-paid deal, but it costs the insurance company a lot more. and they're all in, they're in on the scam and of course insurance rates go sky high. This whole thing is rotten. really rotten and Obama who has gotten more money from the insurance companies than anybody else and puts through this phony baloney and what gets me about it is the Democrats or the Republicans moan and groan about Obamacare never once mentioning that this essential fraud, this scam that's taking place which increases the cost of insurance because of these you know hidden fees that are all done in the back you know in the back room

33:27 Because you know you still pay the ten bucks, but the insurance company now gets billed five hundred dollars or two hundred You don't think opposed to being billed five ten bucks. I mean you don't think that perhaps the Republican Party is also on the take from the pharmacy on the take or they were somebody somewhere would say something and they don't they say nothing We need like a small independent condom manufacturer to sponsor this show We could do it It would be, you know, it would be better than we did today. It would be better than what we're getting here with this last episode. In fact, we should thank our two executive producers who showed up. Yeah, this is what always happens, the roller coaster where people jump in on a magic number donation and we do just nice for an episode and then it just like off the cliff like Wile E. Coyote, man. Yeah.

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, Rob Seelock Donation

Rob Seelock from Alberta and Oracle Broadcasting from Round Rock, Texas, are credited as executive producers for their financial contributions. Seelock's note mentions his wife's skepticism of the podcast and his pursuit of a second knighthood. The hosts discuss the value of listener support in maintaining the show's independent research.

rob seelock· oracle broadcasting· alberta· round rock· knighthood

34:24 So we've got, in fact I should, well actually before let me go look up C-Lock's email first. I think we also got an email from Oracle Broadcasting. What? Oracle Broadcasting? They want to syndicate our program? No, they just wanted to give us a contribution. What is Oracle Broadcasting? Is that like a legit outfit? I guess it's they gave us money so they must be legit. But anyway we have two, we have one executive producer, one associate executive producer for this show. Rob Seelock, Sir Seelock actually in Cochran, Alberta gave us $241. He becomes executive producer and I have an email from him and then Oracle Broadcasting is the associate executive producer from Round Rock, Texas right up the street from you. Oh yeah, I'm looking at him right now.

35:16 Yeah, these guys, yeah, they're like a Liberty Network. That's cool. Yeah, and they gave us $200. And that's what we got to produce this show. So it's a little on the light side, I'd say. Yeah. But let me read Rob's notes. Particularly for sitting through that Coney thing for a half hour and then doing all the research. Well, Coney. Well, let's see if that pays off on Sunday. The donation is specifically due to John's attempt to pull Adam's head out of the pipeline conspiracy. Okay. Apparently you're the only one who felt that way. Strong believer of following the money and oil, but not everything's a massive conspiracy. The donation places me near my second knighthood. I asked my wife if she'd like it, to which she told me not to waste my money on that crappy podcast. That's us, baby. Crappypodcast.com.

36:03 Jeez. Anyway, obviously she's not aware of it being the greatest podcast in the universe. She probably doesn't listen to podcasts. Then I asked if I could give it to one of the kids explaining that she, like John, when he was on Twit and the other guy, Adam, was from MTV, to make a long story short, if my wife ever asks, knighthoods only cost $100. That's right. Yeah, if she ever asks. So he wants us to do a contest, like a lottery. The problem with lotteries is there's all kinds of legal ramifications. I need to say two things here. One, I understand his wife because podcasts, I have to agree, it sounds like some kind of venereal disease.

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Talk Radio Models, Dvorak and Curry Chemistry

The hosts compare the traditional solo talk radio model used by Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh to the conversational podcast format. They argue that the chemistry between two opinionated hosts provides a necessary balance that is missing in modern broadcasting. Curry praises Dvorak's role in providing a counterpoint to his own theories.

leo laporte· rush limbaugh· sean hannity· twit· podcasting

36:48 I mean, it's not like Oracle broadcasting that sounds good right Oracle breath from the Oracle broadcasting network That sounds good and now we're like it's a podcast ooh. There must be some kind of cream against that and and the other thing So he says specifically due to John's attempt to pull Adams head out of the pipeline conspiracy. This is actually the reason people should be supporting the show because why because we Balance each other out. And you get like these single guys, you know, one voice on the show and they go nuts. And they all do it, every single one of them. Doesn't that? That's the funny thing we should mention to people. The model for talk radio has changed over the years. You still find the old-fashioned talk radio guys, they're rare, rare. I mean, Leo Laporte used to be one of them. And he's actually, when he does his talk radio computer show for KFI or wherever it is now,

37:46 Yeah, he has gravitated to the new style, and the new style is epitomized by Rush Limbaugh. And it's bad. It is a bad model, and this is why... You have to talk a lot. But Twit is very popular because it's a conversation amongst people. And this, this program, this icky disease sounding thing podcast is a conversation between two guys who just want to like outdo each other on stuff and make each other laugh. And I just want to get some daddy love from you, but that's a different issue. And that you're right. The model of going to a guy who then takes phone calls is broken. And the only reason why it works, John, is because everybody wants to get on the radio.

38:31 So it's great for ratings, bad for content. You have to imagine, I don't know how some of these guys do it. Sean Hannity, he's on the radio for three hours a day, then he does an hour of television every day. And when he's on the radio, I would say at least 70% of the time spent is just him talking. Bullcrap. Bull crap, non-stop blah blah blah. He rarely takes calls and rarely has a guest. He just yack jack yack. But besides that there is a balance which is really really important and you my friend are actually a very, and this is why I covet you so, you are a very, not as in coveting my neighbor's wife,

39:20 You're a very important balance. This is why when you're not on Twit, the show sucks. I just got to say it. When you're on, it's great because there's balance. And sometimes I balance you out, you know, it all works, but that's what you should be supporting. So to have only one person recognize that, and he puts it in a weird verbiage, but to have only one person recognize that is the beauty of this show is disappointing. But that's just because people are programmed into the whole... Yeah, well I've had, and I'm sure you have from your fans, every once in a while somebody, I think you should get rid of Curry. No, no, they never say that. Oh really? So I should sit here and yak away about whatever I think and that's that? And somebody, who would listen to that? Anyone who would listen to that, I wouldn't want to know them. You know what my fans say to me? You should get rid of Curry! Curry does more work than I do.

40:16 It's not about the amount of work. It really isn't. Okay, you're right. I probably try to do as much. Yeah, but it's not... But anyway, besides the point, no, that's the idea of the show and it's the reason I... The DHM plug is very similar. It's, you know, there's... you try to balance things off through conversation. That I have to say I disagree with. I like the show, but the chemistry of that is... It's a different show. It's not as balanced as this show. It's a good show. It's very informative. But it's different. Well, that's because we have under the other show. Well, there's also we have two opinionated guys who essentially base our show on the business itself and we become a meta show. The other show is more it's closer to a you know an expert and an amateur working together. Pro-am.

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Oracle Broadcasting, Drone Domain Registrations

Oracle Broadcasting's contribution is acknowledged, leading to a discussion about the company's location in Round Rock, Texas. The hosts also review new drone-related domain names sent in by listeners, including bootydrones.com and droneon.net, reflecting the show's ongoing interest in the proliferation of drone technology.

oracle broadcasting· round rock· booty drones· droneon.net· domain names

41:09 Pro am working together yet because they do write about it But it's an expert a guy who works it and a guy who kind of writes about it And it's a it's a completely different balance. There's no doubt about it, but it's still conversational Yeah, which I think is one of the attractions to this type of show you get you know you get Screw it. There's also a kind of magic that you only find once every every way over the cases It's a fact that we don't you know fact. Yeah, we did lousy to fact the fact all right All right, and our second executive producer as we move away Do we have to do a milf call-out or something and a karma shot for him or what do we have to do? What's he asked? Why didn't a milf karma a milf karma? Okay, we'll do that Karma and then Oracle broadcasting

42:01 Helped us out with $200 and become a social executive producers. That's very round rock Which is near the where's round round rock is about 30 minutes everything's nine miles from here basically nine miles and It's beautiful there around rock. We actually looked at some some property. Oh, yeah, well. I'd love to build a house oh, man, it was a relationship a small one, but I'd love to build a house and Build a big house, you're in Texas for God's sake. I don't got build a big house moolah my friend. Don't have that. Leverage. Leverage. Leverage, yeah. Would you, can I mortgage my iPad 1? Well thank you so much to both Oracle Broadcasting and to Sir

42:52 C lock for contributing of course you will be are they both execs here or Sir Rob is associate executive producer no those Rob becomes executive producer executive becomes associate executive producer That's highly appreciated these are real credits and you too can be listed on IMDB just like that guy who did the Kony 2012 movie so you can have the same level of credit so we can't Can't promise you that Clooney will be tweeting any time, but you're on the same level and it's a real official credit and unlike the phonies in Hollywood we will vouch for you on the PR front a couple of Domain name Ford's and no agenda show calm all in the drone domain We want to thank Eve for sending us your booty drones calm. We are sweeping up the drone the drone

43:42 Registrations here and someone's gonna wake up one day and they're gonna say hey, man. We got this outfit We're called you booty drones LLC. We'd like to buy that booty booty drones booty drone. We'd like to buy that from you Then we also have Sean who says, look I've pointed this domain to noagendashow.com but I can see a number of uses for droneon.net. One, it could be a trademark of the Curry-Dvorak droning company. Drone on could be our slogan. It could be what the audience yells when the drone is released in our game show, Win, Lose or Drone. It's like, are you ready audience? Yeah, drone on! That could work.

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

iDrone App Parody, No Agenda Software

A listener-produced parody video for an "iDrone" app is highlighted for its satire of government drone operations. The mock app allows users to select "droning styles" such as "cozy chat" or "lawful and just" and choose media coverage types like "fair and balanced." The hosts suggest the video should be used to counter the Kony 2012 viral campaign.

idrone· iphone app· kickstarter· parody· drone warfare

44:23 And it could be used when discussing Hannethy or O'Reilly since they do seem to drone on and on. So that's good. But the best, and I actually went out and registered a domain name for this because I thought the video was so funny. And it doesn't make any sense for me to play the audio because you have to see the video. I registered IDroneApp.com Yes, and one of our producers put together a fabulous fabulous video of the no agenda software creation I drone and it is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time is it's really a piece of work and So he basically mocked up an iPhone app and it looks so good And you just go get some money for it and produce it. You don't need to produce it. Let's do a Kickstarter Yeah, there's an idea

45:14 One million dollars to create the iDrone app. I love the... Screw it, let me just listen. The audio... Actually, he has a very dry English accent which made it kind of funny. And just listen to... Listen to this for a second. Hold on. It's worth it. It's only a minute. It's the perfect length for a commercial. I'm playing it now from iDroneApp.com. Here at No Agenda Software, we understand that running a nation state can be tough. That's why we created iDrone. iDrone allows mid-level government employees, such as prime ministers and presidents, to manage their own droning activities safely and conveniently. Naturally, security is important, so each user has their own login and password, and is only allowed to drone certain classes of target.

46:13 And the next screen is... What style of droning do you require? Freak accident, two to the head, natural disaster, cozy chat, or lawful and just? iDrone is fully customizable with a range of droning styles and media coverage types. Styles, and what kind of media coverage do you want? Fair and balanced, conspiracy theorists, back channels, or movie tie-in? All customized to your specific rules of engagement. Target selection is easy and alerts prevent you from committing an accidental droning. And this is my favorite. Once the action started, you can sit back and monitor the situation with our handy in-flight video. A handy in-flight video.

46:58 We love that that's the kind of stuff that should go viral not that Kony 2012 crap in fact you should create a Kony 2012 YouTube video and upload this Exactly. That's the kind of stuff we need. So thank you again everybody for participating and supporting the program. We could do with a lot more because this was a low end for the week but we're gonna try it again next show of course and you can always go out and propagate our very important formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Shut up. Slave.

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Eric Holder Northwestern Speech, Targeted Killing Defense

Attorney General Eric Holder delivered a speech at Northwestern University defending the Obama administration's policy of assassinating U.S. citizens abroad. Holder argued that the government has the authority to use lethal force against enemy belligerents under international law and the Constitution. The speech drew criticism from progressive news outlets like Democracy Now.

eric holder· northwestern university· al-qaeda· assassination· amy goodman· democracy now

47:46 And we want to remind people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA. You can go to the noagendashow.com and hit the donate button or you can go to noagendanation.com and there's a donate button there too. Dvorak.org slash NA. Meanwhile, talking about droning, back at the ranch. You know, so Eric Holder goes to Northwestern Law School. Do we have the same clip? Probably not. I took a clip. I mean, the clip, you could have played his whole speech and all he talked about was killing people. First of all, it was so poor. It was teleprompter.

48:29 And the guy can't read. He can barely read. But he got a standing ovation from these shameless students at Northwestern when he walked out. I wonder what they felt like after he told them they were all liable to be killed by him. By a drone. Or by a drone. But I took, there's about five or six possible clips I could take. I took the one from Democracy Now where it was semi-summarized. by the woman there, whatever, I can't remember her name for some reason. And it was done and she... Mary Jo Bianfico. These people, all the progressives that do progressive news are beside themselves with they don't know what to make of this. It's just driving them crazy. Yeah, like the fact that you can get droned anywhere. Yeah. They don't get it.

49:16 Alright, I pulled a different clip I'm sure, but let's listen to it. This is a compilation clip from Democracy Tonight. It's her summarizing followed by part of the Holder commentary that he went on and I couldn't put a... I got the relevant clip. Don't worry about it. I got it. I got it. The War and Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman. The Obama administration has offered its most expansive defense to date of its policy authorizing the assassination of U.S. citizens abroad. In a speech at Chicago's Northwestern University, Attorney General Eric Holder outlined what the White House billed as the legal rationale for its claimed right to kill U.S. citizens who belong to al-Qaeda or associated forces.

49:58 Holder said it's preferable to capture suspected terrorists when possible, but claimed the government also reserves the right to use lethal force. Specifically, Holder said the U.S. can target those who play an operational role in attacks that pose an imminent threat. We must also recognize that there are instances where our government has the clear authority, and I would argue the responsibility, to defend the United States through the appropriate and lawful use of lethal force. This principle has long been established under both U.S. and international law.

50:33 In response to the attacks perpetrated and the continuing threat posed by Al Qaeda, the Taliban and associated forces, Congress has authorized the President to use all necessary and appropriate force against those groups. Because the United States is in an armed conflict, we are authorized to take action against enemy belligerents under international law. The Constitution... Who gives a crap? Empowers the president to protect the nation from any imminent threat of violent attack. And international law recognizes the inherent right of national self-defense. None of this is changed by the fact that we are not in a conventional war. Yeah.

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Due Process vs Judicial Process, Executive Branch Power

Eric Holder's legal distinction between "due process" and "judicial process" is analyzed as a significant expansion of executive power. The hosts argue this interpretation allows the President to act as judge, jury, and executioner without court oversight. They express concern over the lack of congressional outrage, noting that only Ron Paul has consistently challenged the policy.

due process· judicial process· eric holder· constitution· death squads· ron paul

51:17 international law now all of a sudden that overrides the Constitution. Yeah now all of a sudden we're all international law oriented. So let me- What international law is he talking about? Well I have a clip about that too but I'd like to play you my clip where Because of course, you know, we're looking for the legal, the real legal ramification around this. How can you drone a US citizen anywhere in the world without due process? And he, this is the Northwesterners. Yeah, this is good. It's a, it's a, it's a, is this not a due process? Yeah, this is the due process. Do you have that one now? Yeah. Here we go. The anticipated collateral damage must not be excessive.

51:54 in relation to the anticipated military advantage. And by the way, excessive is just a couple kids. It's okay if a couple kids get killed in the droning. You know, if it's like a hundred, that might be excessive. And finally, the principle of humanity requires us to use weapons that will not inflict unnecessary suffering. You know like it's over with quickly these principles do not forbid the use of stealth or technologically advanced weapons I love it do not forbid the use of stealth okay, that's the use of Advanced weapons may help to ensure that the best intelligence is available for planning and carrying out operations This is beautiful how it's all turned around because you know so we have to do it without a lot of collateral damage So stealth weapons are actually tame

52:38 made to fit our constitutional right under international law to kill Americans. And the risk of civilian casualties can be minimized or avoided altogether. Some have argued that the president is required to get permission from a federal court before taking action against a United States citizen who is a senior operational leader of Al Qaeda or associated forces. This is simply not accurate. Due process and judicial process are not one and the same. A legal technicality hidden for 200 plus years in the Constitution. Due process is not the same as judicial process.

53:27 This was the gimmick they came up with. This is what they... and he explains it again. How does this go? How do you not take this to the next level at some point in time? In other words, you start just shooting mobsters. You just develop a hit list of American citizens you don't like. Or journalists. And you say that they're, you know, belligerents or they're, you know, they're a threat to the security of the country because they're running a prostitution ring. And you know who they are. There's no, you don't need judicial process to actually prove that these people are Doing anything illegal you just shoot them and so essentially we've created a assassination squad we've created a death squad In the United States and and now they're rationalizing it and making it worse. What is the definition of due process?

54:13 I have it here. I will consult the... Do process is the legal requirement that the state must respect all of the legal rights that are owed to a person. Due process balances the power of law of the land, which is sometimes befuddled with the Constitution, and protects individual persons from it. When a government harms a person without following the exact course of the law, this constitutes a due process violation which offends against the rule of law. Right, now what is the difference between due... Well, he actually explains it. Let's listen to his follow-up on this. Particularly when it comes to national security. The Constitution guarantees due process. It does not guarantee judicial process. Oh my God! Am I in a movie? Am I in a freaking science fiction film? I would like to know why there is not outrage in Congress over this. There's outrage here!

55:14 There's no except for Ron Paul all these rest of these guys have got their thumbs up their butts going well, whatever This is such an outrage To say that due process is not the same. And during, by the way, it was after this speech I believe is when Obama gave his press conference and not one member of the media brought this up. They went on about contraception and other, they gave him a little thing about, you know, this minor little questions they thought they were giving him the needle about. Yeah, we got reports on the news about the porn industry moving. It's all very important stuff of course.

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Leon Panetta C-SPAN Testimony, International Law vs Constitution

During a C-SPAN hearing on Syria, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Admiral Dempsey suggested that international legal basis, such as UN or NATO resolutions, could override the need for Congressional authorization for military action. Senator Jeff Sessions challenged this view, asserting that the U.S. military answers to the Constitution and Congress, not international bodies.

leon panetta· jeff sessions· syria· un security council· war powers act· c-span

55:51 Yeah, this is such an outrage. And to get to your international law question, wow, did you see Panetta and Dempsey? No, I didn't. I missed that. Oh, I watched a lot of C-SPAN. This is a long clip, so we'll stop it. We can stop it at any time because the Sessions is asking the question. And I'll just set it up for you. This is about Syria. They had two and a half hours on Syria. And I watched it, I recorded it, I went over it again. And when this came up, I just went, oh my God. Let me just set it up by saying, who or what body or who has the constitutional right to send American troops to war? To a theater of war, to go anywhere and fight anybody for any reason. Who or what has that constitutional right as the sole body?

56:53 Well, they're going to argue the president, but in fact, the Constitution says it's Congress. Congress. So you have to have an act of war. a declaration of war signed by Congress. Now, under the War Powers Act, and we've been over this with Libya, the president has 60 days under the Constitution and under the amended bull crap they put in there, the War Powers Resolution, which I believe is unconstitutional by itself, the president has 60 days to defend the country. So, but we don't have time, it's so horrible, Syria is going to kill Americans, let's go in there, I got 60 days to then go convince everybody. So this question comes up and Sessions, I guess he's a Republican, he asks, he starts off by asking, by posing the question to the chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Dempsey, and then Panetta with his droopy town dog eyebrow look just says the most outrageous things. And there's a nice little blood and treasure in here as well. Check it out. Dempsey, you, you,

57:55 in one of your criteria for determining what we might do militarily, you say you have to ask the question whether the action is worth the cost and is consistent with law. What law does the United States military look to? Now, what law would that be? That would be Congress and maybe the President under extreme circumstances. Yeah, if I could, since I'd like to address both because they are related. So cost, resources, risk incurred elsewhere by the use of force one other place. So, you know, it's a zero-sum game. I love that. We can just move our guys over there and she kills some people there. Are they brown? Do they live in the desert? We can kill them. Done my zero-sum game. Take them from someplace else, we use them for how long and that's the kind of issue of cost.

58:44 and of course in blood and treasure. Blood and treasure! That means it's good. Remember, blood and treasure is something valuable. It's something we have to fight for. It's neuro-linguistic programming to make you feel good about it. The issue of legal basis is important though. You know, we, again, we act with the authorized use of military force either at the consent of a government So, and we're invited in. So any government apparently can just call us. Hey, you guys, can you come in? Hey, hello, is BB over here? What are you doing Tuesday? Can you pencil me in for some dronage over Damascus? I need you guys. Or out of national self-defense, which, and it's a very, there's a very clear criteria for that.

59:30 And then the last one is with some kind of international legal basis and on... Oh, oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I love that. Wait a minute. Whoa, Nelly! I'm from Sessions. Let's talk about an international legal basis. You answer under the Constitution to the United States government, do you not? and you don't need any international support before you would uh... uh... carry out a military operation authorized by the commander of course that that's nice that's that's the second i don't want to know that because he's going to turn it around now very crafty as there's a lot of references in here to uh... international matters before we make a decision and i want to be sure that united states military understands and i know you do that uh... it is we're not

1:00:18 dependent on a NATO resolution or a UN resolution to execute policies consistent with the national security of the United States. Now here comes Panetta. Now, Secretary Panetta, you, in your talk, in your remarks, you talk about First, we're working to increase diplomatic isolation and encouraging other countries to join the European Union and Arab League in imposing sanctions. And then you note that China and Russia have repeatedly blocked the UN Security Council from taking action.

1:01:00 Are you saying, and is the President taking the position, he would not act if it was in our interest to do so if the UN Security Council did not agree? When it comes to the kind of military action where we want to build a coalition and work with our international partners, then obviously we would like to have some kind of legal basis on which to do it as we did in Libya. No. Wait, did we have a declaration of war from Congress for Libya, John? I don't think, I don't recall that. No, I think he was, no, he was actually, he wasn't, I don't think that's what he was implying. He specifically was talking about the UN. Well, listen. The UN gave us the go ahead. Right. Well, that's my whole point is like, but that is not a legal basis for war and Sessions is not having any of it. Some sort of legal basis. We worried about international legal basis, but nobody worried about the,

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

John McCain Airstrike Demands, Syria Intervention

Senator John McCain called for the United States to lead an international effort to conduct airstrikes against Bashar al-Assad's forces in Syria. McCain argued that providing military assistance to the Free Syrian Army is no longer sufficient to stop the conflict. The hosts criticize McCain's eagerness for military intervention without a formal declaration of war.

john mccain· syria· airstrikes· free syrian army· foreign air power

1:01:55 fundamental constitutional legal basis that this Congress has over war. we're not ask us stunning and indirect violation the war powers act whether or not you believe its constitution it certainly didn't comply with it we spent our time worrying about the u n the arab league nato and too little time in my opinion worried about the elected representatives of the united states thank you think that you can act without congress on to initiate on no-fly zone in syria now this is a good question do you think you can act by basically engaging in war, that's a no-fly zone, which means not only do you keep aircraft... And before you continue the clip, I want you to interrupt the clip by playing the McCain wants airstrikes clip. Here we go. Providing military assistance to the Free Syrian Army and other opposition groups is necessary.

1:02:52 But at this late hour, that alone will not be sufficient to stop the slaughter and save innocent lives. The only realistic way to do so is with foreign air power. Therefore, at the request of the Syrian National Council, The free Syrian army and local coordinating committees inside the country The United States should lead an international effort to protect key population centers in Syria especially in the north Through airstrikes on Assad's forces this guy this guy gets off on this crap doesn't he this guy is off the deep end He just sits at home. I wish they would run out I've had the shot at voting him out this last time around they didn't do it. They should rub him out. I

1:03:40 This is bad. All right, so here's Panetta's answer. Yeah, so well of course that's all you need, right? You only need a foreign government to just say, hey, can you guys make it on Tuesday for that no-fly zone? And which also means taking out the anti-air defenses. Here's Panetta's answer. Without congressional approval. You know, again, our goal would be to seek international permission and we would come to the Congress and inform you. Hey, we got an appointment on Tuesday. Just want to let you know so there's no conflict. We're going to kill some people. We're just letting you know. We're not asking you for permission. We're just letting you know. And determine how best to approach this, whether or not we would want to get permission from the Congress. I think those are issues we would have to discuss as we decide what to do here. We'll have a meeting. It just goes on and on, John.

1:04:39 and this and I I'm gonna basically is basically telling the Congress a ding screw themselves yeah well I'm almost breathless about that because what I heard you say is we're going to seek international approval and they will come and tell the Congress what we might do and I might seek congressional approval that's what I heard I want to just say to you that's a big dish when you agree you served in the Congress yeah when you agree that that's would be pretty breathtaking to the average American so would you like... No, the average American is not thinking about that. The average American is not watching C-SPAN, is not exposed to this information. The average American doesn't even care about droning Americans. Yeah, why would we care about some sand bunnies?

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Danny Dayem CNN Controversy, Syrian Propaganda

Syrian activist Danny Dayem, a frequent contributor to CNN, was accused of staging battlefield reports after leaked video appeared to show him coordinating fake gunfire and explosions. Anderson Cooper interviewed Dayem in-studio to refute the claims, but the hosts argue the interview failed to address the most incriminating evidence of audio manipulation.

danny dayem· anderson cooper· cnn· syria· homs· propaganda

1:05:28 So, I'll just get off this. I think everyone gets the point that... Where is the outrage? Where's Anderson Pooper standing up and yelling and shouting that this can't be, this is horrible, this is anti-constitutional. I expect Fareed Zakaria to come on and say, this is great, this is exactly the way it should work. We need to be an international coalition, we're the international partners. That's right. Pennsylvania for Tuesday. I'd go drone somebody. It's crazy. Why, I do declare, Mr. Sessions, That gave me the vipers when I heard that so remember your friend Danny in Syria, no Danny Danny who was sending off those reports to Anderson Cooper and and CNN Danny Danny So Danny got busted. Did you see the the videos of him getting busted?

1:06:20 Oh, he finally got busted. No, I missed that. Yeah, so there was the head. So he's on the phone for like 20 minutes, you know, because, you know, you don't just like it's not like standby to go to Danny live. You know, he's standing there and he's waiting for 20 minutes and he's literally giving commands. He's like, OK, when I say shoot, then I want you to we've got to have gunfire. So he's a little and this is taped. And this, and of course, I only can believe the translation because I don't know if that's exactly what he said, but it sure seems like no one's refuting this. But we knew it was rigged. So this happens on Monday, this video comes out. Everyone's like, oh my God, this guy's a total shill. I'm like, yeah, duh. But it's totally wag the dog. The guy's like directing on the ground. Hey man, you know, like make sure we have some gunfire because that's the sound really good when I'm on with Anderson.

1:07:10 And then all of a sudden, Wednesday, the guy, and it's impossible to get in and out of Syria, the guy is in the studio with Anderson Cooper. And Anderson is refuting this whole thing. Do doth protesteth too much, I thinketh. Listen to this. And Eastern State Television, as you know, is now airing excerpts of this video of you that was shot. I'm not sure how they got this video. Do you know how they got it? Did they intercept it? While I was trying to talk to CNN, I was online for like 20 minutes. So it's live broadcast. I don't know how they got it. This is all private, see? We should have... This has all been deleted. We have to delete all this stuff. Uh-huh.

1:07:51 I mean that's incriminating right there. Yeah, he just admitted to it. He just basically admitted the whole thing's a scam. He took my private stuff. Yeah, my stuff that you know, you're not supposed to see that part man. That crap. It's like taking the outtakes from Mission Impossible man with the green screen. You can't do that. I want to ask you some specifics. They say the truth of Danny the Zionist. That's the title of this and it's obviously heavily edited. Unlike CNN. They say at one point, I'm going to show this, they say that you were saying get the target ready to shoot. And by the way, Anderson never mentioned the gunfire part. They never talk about that in the interview. That's the real damning evidence, which he edits out. No, no, shoot it like I'm telling you. Let's take a look. So now they show a little bit of this video.

1:08:35 Which is totally useless B-roll, but okay, I left it in. Here we go. Back to Anderson. Let's just simply get some answers. The banner in Arabic says, notice the sound of an explosion after he gave the order. They're making it seem like you were fabricating the sound of explosions. Yes, okay. If you exactly watch the... It was about six minutes I was talking to you actually, I was saying in that time. There was no shooting going on at the time. So if I was telling him to shoot so I can make it look like there's a war going on, They would be shooting on the back sound while I was talking to you. They said the sound of the bang there was the sound of you guys faking a shot. No, that was a long way ago. Even at the time, the area I was sitting in wasn't even being hit. They were hitting another area, as I told you, it was called Khaldi. It's about 15 kilometers.

1:09:20 away from where I am. I want to play another part of this, of their tape. Again, not the relevant part. Your cameraman is saying, say there that shells fell and we are pulling bodies. Let's take a look. Yeah, that's exactly what he said. The banner there says even the cameraman is lying what was happening? Look as any journalist works as anyone who's trying to work isn't just me all the reporters inside They tell us you have to say this. This is actually what's going on. I don't know everything that's going on Yeah, he's just taking orders from his handler. He's meeting this on camera is unbelievable they get the information how many people have been killed so

1:10:04 I'm not really a reporter. They remind me, don't forget to say this. Tell them we have people dead, people underneath the destruction, so I don't forget. He said, don't forget my lines. It's the script, girl. Tell me of people dead people under the rubble. Okay, people did people on the road. Okay, I got it Let's go live. You also say that you are basically have been paid by CNN. Yeah, that's categorically untrue Just for the record, of course, have you ever worked for CNN? Have you ever received any money from I have not received one penny for CNN. I'm not holding your knee Yeah, really? You're an idiot. You should be like that poop

1:10:40 upside the head and take some of his wallet this is no good you're not getting paid for acting? Come on, is this not a SAG gig? I mean you should protest to the Union. CNN journalist. You've been very upfront in the fact that you went there to join the Free Syrian Army that you wanted to join so you're not pretending to be an impartial journalist. No I'm not impartial I mean come on come on And meanwhile, the guy's in the studio. He got out, he'll get back in? Yeah, I know, this is what we've pointed this out before with the list of reporters that are already there and all the French reporters that have gone and done all kinds of stuff and nobody pays any attention to it. This is ridiculously, this is the most skewed, we're at the point now where it's like, why do we even bother? Wag the dog. By the way, I find it very disturbing

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Russian Helicopter Contracts, Rosoboronexport Sanctions

The U.S. Department of Defense is under fire for a $1 billion contract with the Russian firm Rosoboronexport to provide MI-17 helicopters for the Afghan military. Senator John Cornyn noted that the same company is supplying weapons to the Syrian regime. The hosts highlight the irony of the U.S. buying Russian equipment while sanctions against the firm were previously lifted in 2010.

rosoboronexport· mi-17· afghanistan· department of defense· john cornyn· russia

1:11:40 That for those of you who listen to the no agenda producer update this guy Danny sounds exactly like mr. Oil I'm just saying he fell on the sword then that's a good job there destroy But this to me is just like wow really just staying on Syria The Chinas pulled out their people so you know Anderson Cooper can't get in and of course I'd love to see Anderson there I want him there. I want him in the war zone and And he went to Tahrir Square when it was all safe and everything, but now he's like, I'm not gonna go there. I'm a Vanderbilt, gosh darn it. The Chinas apparently had 17 billion dollars worth of projects. Yeah, hello. That's pretty big, right? Yeah, that's something. Yeah. Yeah, well, at some point the Chinese are gonna get a little irked by all this and do something to screw us. There was one other funny thing that came out of the

1:12:47 the Dempsey Panetta thing. I'll just play it and you tell me if you think there's anything to it. This is Cornyn, I think, asking the question, Republican from Texas. To the Department of Defense's business transactions with this same firm I mentioned to earlier, Rosoboron Export, that is engaged in military sales of Russian weapons to Assad's regime. Reportedly, this company has signed a deal with the Syrian government to sell it 36 combat jets capable of hitting civilian ground targets. Can you confirm that? I can't. I'd have to look into that. Well, I don't mean to blindside you. I'll certainly share it with you, this article, and I'd be interested in following up in greater detail.

1:13:48 Rosa Borne export was sanctioned by the United States in October 2008 for assisting Iran's nuclear program, but those sanctions were lifted by the Department of State in May of 2010. This is what I wanted to get to. It's my understanding that the Department of Defense, through an initiative led by the U.S. Army, is currently buying dual-use M1, excuse me, M.I. 17 helicopters for the Afghan military from this very same company. I'd like to know whether either one of you can confirm that at this point. No, but I can certainly take that for the record. I can confirm we are buying MI-17s for the Afghan military, but I can't confirm that that's the corporation providing them.

1:14:44 You know who you're buying it from! I buy it from the used helicopter store. You're telling me that we're buying our helicopters from the same guys who are supplying arms to the Syrians? I mean, there's a lot more going on. Well, something you don't really want to discuss, the Mi-17 is a Russian chopper. Yes. So you don't want us to go on and say, why are there American companies? How about a McDonnell Douglas? You know, how about one of our own choppers? But apparently I guess the Afghans have been using Russian, I guess they captured a bunch of them after they rousted the Russians. I don't know. Whatever the case is, this is a Russian piece of equipment and now we're buying them to give to the Afghan army? Yeah. This is scandalous.

1:15:32 Yeah, and you will see that tonight on the PBS NewsHour. I'm sure oh yeah sure I should be right there So they got a 1 billion dollar contract with the US Department of Defense signed May 26 2011 The US signed a no-bid fixed price foreign sales contract worth 375 million Thank you love to purchase the mi series of roto crafts and spare parts which believe me Russian helicopters you need a whole bucket of spare parts and With estimated completion date by an extra chopper for the parts chopper. Yeah, well this pieces fly off all the time. The contract comes with an option for 550 million in additional purchases raising the total to nearly 1 billion dollars. Public contract records show ongoing business between the US Army and Rosoboronexport with a transaction as recent as November 3rd, 2011. This is just some sort of corruption. That's what the only rationale for this.

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Aeroflot Travel Anecdotes, Soviet Era Aviation

John Dvorak shares personal anecdotes about flying on Aeroflot in the late 1980s. He describes the uncomfortable conditions of the Russian-built Ilyushin aircraft, including oversized bolts and tube radios. He also recalls the behavior of flight attendants who would rush to buy makeup in London and the practice of recycling plastic cups on board.

aeroflot· moscow· london· ilyushin· soviet union

1:16:24 Well I think it does play into the whole Syria thing. I mean so there's you know it's not just oil and gas as a lot of money in arms. I mean billion dollars is nothing to sneeze at. Nothing to sneeze at. I'm looking at the MI-17 the Mexican Navy uses it. Oh yeah well it's certainly nothing we would want to have. You don't really want to fly the uh I've been on a Russian airplane, I've been on an Aeroflot, I can't remember. Yeah, I've flown on an Aeroflot too. And it was a Russian built plane, it had the four engines stuck on the tail, it was a weird thing. That makes your landing better when you're Polish. I think it was an Ilyich, an Ilyich 42, I can't remember the name of it. I think it was an Ilyich something. And everything in the thing, it bolts were all oversized and I understand it had a tube radio. And which I think most of the Russian planes until recently used tubes.

1:17:16 tube radios. There's nothing wrong with tube radios. No, they work fine. I don't know about how they perform after being shook up in a turbulence. Perfectly fine. And uh... We just push them back in. It's an uncomfortable plane. Very uncomfortable plane. Hey! Hey, Comrade John, push the tube back in the socket so I can contact the radio. I was given a whole lecture on what to expect And a couple of things, just anecdotal. For one thing, the flight back, because of all the Russian stewardesses spent, they're out of London. Do they have beards? No. They look like the model express from Playboy magazine. Oh, right. There you go. And they're all dolled up to the max because when they go to, apparently, the Russian planes, they land in London, the first thing that the girls do is they rush off to buy makeup.

1:18:06 Yeah, well this is 1989, John. So anyway... They have Gucci in Moscow now. This is just before the fall of communism, so it was a big deal. That's when I was there. But people warned me about this and they already told me about it, I thought it was kind of funny. They recycle their plastic cups cups and you know for the plane so there's a big pile of these scratched up old plastic cups that they pour from large jugs of juice into the scratched up old plastic thing and here's some orange juice or apple juice some bug juice it's hilarious anyway it's yeah one day one day I'll have to tell my story about Moscow in 1988

1:18:53 Before I glossed and everything that's it for a different day perhaps yeah Over you only one Russian story at a show. Yes, we can't overdo it. I totally agree so anyway onward Why I mean I got to wrap what did you wrap your story? I didn't hear you you finish well, I mean so on the I mean on Syria just in general and what's going on in the whole region, I think we can see two main things happening. And I've opened up a new heading called Lost, Lost, the Law of the Sea Treaty, because this is what it's coming down to. Now, we remember that Lucifer Clinton

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Law of the Sea Treaty, Mediterranean Gas Fields

The Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) is becoming a focal point of conflict in the Mediterranean due to the discovery of the Leviathan gas fields. Tensions are rising between Greece, Turkey, Cyprus, and Lebanon over exclusive economic zones (EEZ). Senator Jim Inhofe has called for ratification hearings, while the hosts suggest Hillary Clinton will use the treaty to expand UN influence over maritime resources.

lost treaty· leviathan gas field· cyprus· greece· turkey· jim inhofe· hillary clinton

1:19:44 was all over this. This is a UN... This actually I think was... The whole deal was done in maybe the 50s, but then they tried to revive it again in the 80s. And a couple of countries have not ratified the lost treaty, the Law of the Seas Treaty, lost. One of them is Greece, unfortunately. And the idea is your EEZ, your economic zone, extends 200 miles out from your shore and should there be less than 400 miles between shores then the countries opposed or that both claim rights have to essentially come to an agreement. This would apply to Cyprus I would assume. Yes Cyprus, Lebanon, Syria there's only 385 miles so the question is who owns

1:20:39 The Leviathan fields, the gas fields, this is what a lot of this is going to come down to. I'll just give you a couple of the headlines as to what is happening. So Greece never ratified. Disagreement so people are kind of saying we needed neither did the US by the way, and we don't ratify anything You know, we don't recognize the International Criminal Court yet We're happy to send people to it as long as you know, we don't recognize it so we can't go to it, right? So they set up this ISA the International Seabed Authority interestingly enough in Kingston, Jamaica I'm not sure why it's located in Kingston. I But that's where it is. You can see all the countries that have that have signed up and a ratified and people look over it. So it's the exclusive economic zone that is important. And there's a real problem between Greece and Turkey, obviously, because Turkey is saying, hey, you know, you've got to someone that Leviathan gas there in the Mediterranean. Yeah. That's within our 200 mile easy, our exclusive economic zone.

1:21:41 So, what happens... It's actually 200, just to be totally accurate, it's 200 nautical miles. Nautical, yes, nautical miles. 230 miles to the crow. Always there to point out the really important stuff, John. Well, that's important if you're 30 miles away from it. Yeah, I agree. So, Greek Cyprus and France, remember France runs Total Oil. Launched a search-and-rescue exercise Armed exercise I might say from really Greek Cypriot port of Limassol After they signed an armed forces cooperation agreement this happened on January 24th So the French are now in Greek Cyprus saying okay. We're good for you Turkey is saying

1:22:31 We just might have to annex northern Cyprus. So we're going to see a big skirmish there as to who owns what. Then we have on our very own Capitol Hill, Jim Inhofe. Is that Senator Inhofe? I think so. Yeah, Inhofe. He is now calling for hearings for the ratification of the Law of the Sea Treaty. So this is now starting to stir up in Congress and I think you will see Lucifer Clinton involving herself in this one way or the other. I'm not quite sure what's more beneficial, but the way I understand the law, and I read the treaty of course, is if there's less than 400 nautical miles between the shores, you have to work out a deal. Now the only person who is good at working out a deal is Lucifer.

1:23:26 She's the one that does that stuff. She knows how to run it. Yeah, yeah she's gonna have to do something because we're looking at this map is a disaster in terms of who owns what everything is at Cyprus is just right there within she's I think Oh yeah, it's maybe 50 miles. So I think that the real issue we're seeing here is Lebanon has arguably a legitimate claim. They did ratify the exclusive economic zone. They have a legitimate claim to the Leviathan oil. Now Lebanon, of course, I mean, if you're going to run Lebanon, you might as well run Syria.

1:24:02 Because that's really what controls everything. So I think that's why we're seeing some of these movements. This Lebanon-Syria thing has been going on for a while. So this Leviathan thing has been well known for some time. It's just never discussed. Right. But this is why all of these things have been taking place. We had the France-Greece thing that was January 24th. So this all kind of starts to make sense that a lot of positioning is going on. By the way, I found out that Nobel Energy Bill Clinton is a registered lobbyist for them. Nice find! Yeah. Gee, how does that figure, huh? Lebanon, speaker of... let me see who said this. I have to figure it out.

1:24:58 Lebanon claims Israel's Leviathan gas field. There you go. That it spills over into Lebanese territory. Israel is ignoring this fact. And the two countries are disputing an area of around 850 square kilometers. So that's 1.8. So that's about that 460 that you're talking about. However, Cyprus and Israel, they worked out their lost agreement in December of 2010. So I'm thinking that we'll see this Law of the Sea thing, which then gives the power, really, to the United Nations, which is where America wants it. So that they can resolve disputes and do all that, and then, hey, if you don't like it, we'll come in and drone you. Something like that. Yeah. Makes sense. Unfortunately. Yeah, this Cyprus thing right in the middle of this is a fun map to look at. Ooh, wait a minute.

1:26:01 I had something for that. You have a fun map. Unfortunately, it sounds like take a look at the math. No, it doesn't sound like that to me. It sounds good. If you find yourself saying what's all this crap, take a look at the map. It's catchy. It is catchy. And if you look at the map, if you go to just type in Cyprus and Google and click on the maps so you can get a Google Earth map. and especially a satellite version. You just blow it out a little bit so you can see what the situation is and you go, this is like, I don't think living on Cyprus would be much fun. No, it's no longer the holiday destination it used to be. Because you know these people are battling. Yeah. Let's close it out.

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Michelle Obama Parenting, White House Screen Time Rules

During an appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Michelle Obama discussed the strict rules for her daughters' computer and television usage. The girls are reportedly limited to one hour of screen time during the week, which they must earn through chores and homework. The hosts mock these restrictions as abnormal for modern children and suggest it is a way to keep them from reading criticism of their father online.

michelle obama· jay leno· white house· parenting· screen time· facebook

1:27:02 I love it! That's a good one. That's a keeper. Yeah, that is a kind of a keeper. So to change the topic a little bit to something lighter. Besides death and mayhem in the desert? Yeah, I was watching a rerun of Leno with Michelle, because I wanted to see Michelle Obama. I didn't see her the first time and I didn't realize that she's a horrible mom. Wait a minute. Are you telling me that when we saw her during Halloween that that didn't tip you off that she's a hobo? You were all over it. Let's listen to her from Halloween just to make sure we remember. Yes, here's a little one. Come on up. You perverted brat!

1:27:49 Sorry. It's been doctored. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Here's the original. Here it is. Yes. Here's a little one. You come on up. That's not doctored. That's actual audio from the White House. So, just tell me that if you were, if the, what kids, if this is normal for kids, the way that she's allowing them, well play the Michelle clip and tell me what you think. Before this campaign, the girls seem to be adjusting well. You know, they're doing really well and I think that's been one of the most surprising things about living in the White House.

1:28:31 probably one of the things i worried most about was whether we could have a normal life uh... more so for them than for us uh... but the people at the white house are amazing the girls are good they're normal we always check in they have a regular life they've got friends and sleepovers and you know to them it's home uh... so it's been it's been truly a blessing for us now i i i've read you're strict with the computer no computer during the week that's right no no uh... well they They can earn one hour of computer or TV time if they've done everything during the week. They've got two hours on Friday, three on Saturday, two on Sunday. Yeah. Just an hour during the week? Just an hour. I know. I know. I know. But they should be doing their homework. Really?

1:29:17 So, they should be doing their homework, because we all know that anyone who's studied modern education or their homework is bullcrap and useless. And so, essentially, they're slave drivers, in a kind of ironic sense, with these kids who are leading a normal life and they're not on Facebook once in a while, or they're downloading stuff, or listening to music on the internet, or using Google because they're allowed one hour a week If they do all their chores and homework, this is not a normal thing for kids today. I used to, but when I was a kid, I only got one hour of television a week because it was going to rock your brain. That's the same here. They're only allowing like one hour of television or computer, so they give us an option. But they were right because television did rock my brain. Oh yeah, television's bad, but this is not normal. No. So the kids are going to come out, they're not going to know anything. They're going to not know how to do a Google search.

1:30:16 Seriously, most people don't know how to do it. How are they gonna learn about porn? They're not gonna know anything about porn. Obviously they just want to keep them off the internet because they don't want to hear any bad stuff about their dad. Like the truth. That would be bad. Hey dad, how come you're an a-hole? And they... And they sent... Yeah, how come you're killing Americans with drones? Yeah, what's up with that dad? I want to thank Jesta by the way from jestamusic.com for putting that map jingle together. That was good. Yeah, that's uh, that's pretty, that's pretty lame. And there's also, there's the other thing I want to just get out of the way before we go to the big donation segment, which won't last long anyway. It's a shorty, it's a shorty today. Oops. Is uh...

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Iran War Opposition, Nuclear Power vs Weapons

Eight retired military and intelligence officials signed an open letter in the Washington Post urging President Obama to avoid war with Iran. The hosts argue that the real conflict is not about nuclear weapons, but about preventing Iran from achieving energy independence through nuclear power, which would threaten global oil interests.

iran· barack obama· lawrence wilkerson· paul pillar· nuclear energy

1:31:01 The open letter from the spook community these the intelligence community is really upset about this Iran thing Yeah, they don't like it. Do they not at all play the clip in related news eight retired US military and intelligence officials have signed an open letter to President Obama urging him to say no to war with Iran a The letter was published as a full page ad in the Washington Post Monday. Signatories included Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, who served as former Secretary of State Colin Powell's Chief of Staff and former CIA National Intelligence Officer Paul Pilar. So they're coming out of the woodwork as a matter of fact to protest this saber rattling. Yeah. For obvious reasons. It's a whole thing is based on fraudulent information that is

1:31:49 that apparently is important enough that all the intelligence agencies are complaining. And nobody pays it, none of the Republican candidates or anybody else paying any attention to any of this and they're still you know, threatening Iran which is pushing them toward getting weird. This Iran thing by the way, I mean, you know, I think I've kind of got a big part of it figured out. It's not about nuclear weapons. We just don't want Iran to have nuclear power. I think that's, at the end of the day, that's really what it is. Just no nuclear power. They've tried this before, you know. Iran had a huge project in the, I think, late 60s, early 70s. They had all this Chinese technology coming in. They were going to go completely independent of oil. They were going to go completely nuclear power.

1:32:39 that of course begat Three Mile Island and the China syndrome and you know the the The entire propaganda against nuclear power has been so successful that even I still question if it's safe even though I I'm pretty sure it is and boy what a wonderful world this would be without all that Oil for energy, we still need oil for everything, but not for energy. It's been so successful. So I think now the equation nuclear energy equals nuclear bomb is just as damaging and just as big a part of the PR campaign, John. I think it's more important to them than anything. Well, it's definitely effective. Yeah, it's certainly working. Very effective.

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Listener Donations, Karma and De-douching

A series of listener donations are read, including a contribution from a Taco Bell employee who credits the show's "karma" for his new girlfriend. Other donors seek "de-douching" and karma for job interviews at companies like Apple or for family members taking the SATs. The hosts also discuss the technical process of creating custom iPhone ringtones.

taco bell· apple· huntsman karma· san diego· seton hall· ringtones

1:33:25 Well, if the nuclear power energy wants to sponsor our show, we'll shill for them, won't we? In a heartbeat, I tell ya. We need some. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. They could just make a donation as the Hot Rod Association. You know, Hot Pockets. Yeah, Hot Pockets. No one would have to know. Potter Geek Media. Yeah. What? Sean Palandino in Cinnamonson, New Jersey, $128 saying,

1:34:04 Though karma did not get me a new job, it gave me the pleasure of my first girlfriend. Well, I'd say that's... And a huge bump in hours at the Taco Bell. Well, I'd say that's what... What more do you want? If he works at the Taco Bell and can give us $128, people should take notice. And if he's getting laid and working at Taco Bell. And he's getting laid because of the karma. Come on. Hello, everybody. Working at the Taco Bell and getting laid is like amazing. It's the American dream. With the promise of being an executive producer with a nice $256 donation on my birthday show on March 29th, I'm turning 21. I plan on donating drunk in the future. You can take that to the bank literally. To bring back a favorite slogan of mine, could I get a, hey citizen, the science is in, I don't know if we can do this combination, de-douching karma.

1:34:51 Hey Citizen, science is in. Let me just see if I have the- The sci- Yeah, okay, I got it. Alright, Hey Citizen, de-douching science is in? Yeah, karma. Okay, here we go. Hey Citizen, the science is in! You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I don't want to say anything, but I nailed it. Yeah, I think you did. It's gonna be his ringtone, he says. Good luck with that. And for a fellow donator wondering how to get a custom ringtone on the iPhone, Ars Technica had a fantastic article recently describing how to do it for free. You know, can I just say something? People, it was a joke. It was like, it's really easy to get a ringtone on the iPhone. Like, hey, don't care.

1:35:43 Be here be duh. It was just it was just making a point okay day mastered meanwhile Tokyo Came in with a flirtatious letter aimed at you well You know me and the day and we be hanging 100 bucks your show is definitely the best in the universe But today that whoop him Ron rap was so good I had to restrain myself from hitting the donate button to the rhythm and That would have been interesting. Yeah, that would have been cool. I owe $5,000. Actually, I hit the donation button so fast I forgot to put a note in the bottom of my PayPal, which essentially she didn't. Well, we got it in there somehow. So, Day Mastard, you should come to the Camp MoFo sleepover. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, we got Ms. Molly here, Ms. Mickey. Day Mastard would complete the set.

1:36:37 Booty Lee a booty Lee a booty Lee a that would be a hysteria California $100 without a comment Brian Pollack in Overland, Missouri Oh, here we go. We're on it again. I had 69 90s. Oh, he has 69 96 It's power. It looks like maybe this week will be the last we may end the streak and Special love palindrome donation to get some karma for my wife was a job interview this week and served first in 20 plus years So give her a milf karma from the best podcast in the multiverse Karma Oh Evian a Kovalev in New York, New York 69 69 the street continues so I saw my sauce on nerve and

1:37:27 Karma for those in need, Adam and John keep up the great work. Just throw it at Karma. You've got Karma. That was close, we almost lost the streak. The last minute boy I lay awake at night about these yeah, worries me sick sir olig racketeenie racketeen Richmond Hill Ontario 5555 and past technical interview for a new job. I need Carmen to negotiate a six-figure salary Hey now keep up the good work. Well, I mean you're asking for a Super Karma there, but you never know. I hope it works for you. You've got karma six figures Six figures is good Scott McLaughlin Fort Riley, Kansas 5555 Curtis Devon Stevenson in Tarragal New South Wales 50

1:38:19 50 for double nickels on the dime. Hey citizens, John and Adam enjoying the show from GetMonationDownUnder, please accept a small donation as a sign of gratitude for all the valuable lessons and insight you have shown me. Please thoroughly de-douche me for taking so long to donate and send out a Huntsman karma shot for my smoking hot girlfriend who started her new job as a registered nurse this week. And he sent some domains I think you may or may not have mentioned so far. Yeah, no, we've been working on it. He sent me arabgaspipeline.com and syriangaspipeline.com and I'm working on putting some maps up there. So let's get a Huntsman Karma. Maps. You've got Karma.

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CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Dave Matthews Anecdote, Chicken Recipe Discussion

The hosts tease a "creepy" story about musician Dave Matthews, offering to reveal it for a $1,000 donation. This leads into a detailed discussion of a chicken recipe Dvorak shared with Curry, involving roasting a bird over vegetables in a convection oven. Curry describes the successful results of the "step-down" temperature method.

dave matthews· oscar nadal· vespa· chicken recipe· convection oven

1:42:45 He has a ring so he must be a, he's a sir, yes, Sir Oscar. Hey baby, they call me the romantic Hispanic. Eh, you wrote a roll, a word on the rally so it might have helped. Good, congratulations. I don't know what a high roller scooter rally is. Must be some some crazy. You know something Kim friend your friend calm would participate in probably your good friend Dave Matthews You mean he's not really my good friend. Yeah Anyway, so well you bring it up. You know how can I not say anything? I'm not allowed to talk about that. I don't think you should maybe you could it's kind of funny I

1:43:28 So, uh... I don't know. So he has a Vespa that he completely re-re-rebuilt. Oh, my finger slipped! Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. That just happened. Why would you do that? We won't get into it. So, uh... If someone donates $1,000, I'll tell the story. Okay, that'll be the challenge. Anyone who donates $1,000 gets the Dave Matthews story, which is kind of funny. It's creepy. It's creepy, but then I will share my portion. That's a story that we should do that with more of our anecdotes. Yeah, you want me to tell that story? By the way, talking about anecdotes, how did that chicken turn out that you called me up about? Thank you for asking. Yeah, so I had two hindquarters which I bought at the Austin market on Fourth and I was like, okay, I really want to do these differently. I call up John, this is great because we never talk. I call up and he says, hey,

1:44:26 I said, hey, hey, what do you want? And I go right into it. I got two hindquarters. How do I make them? And we do no small talk or nothing. John's like, OK, here's what you do. This is delicious. It's guaranteed to work every time. I make it all the time. It's perfect. And it consisted of chopping up onions and carrots and actually I did broccoli, John. I didn't do the Brussels sprouts, I did broccoli, some red potatoes and slices, and a little bit of olive oil over that, a little bit of seasoning, then salt and pepper on the bird, then rubbed it with margarine, and put that on top of the vegetables in the oven for 25, 40 minutes. John, the oven went ding, it came out, it was spectacular.

1:45:11 Yeah, absolutely. It was spectacular. What I like about that dish is that is essentially, and this is done in a casserole thing, that it's a dish that creates the vegetable dish and the chicken dish and there's no maintenance. You just put it in. And it works. You have to put it in, you have to have a convection oven. Convection oven, yeah. But you want. And in a glass pan. And it's nice and crispy, it's not like, you know, flaccid. And it's a good dish and it's easy to do, very easy to do. So for Miss Molly, I write it up and we can post it somewhere. Well, for Miss Molly, I did something, a variation of it. I had a whole chicken. It's more like a big hen. It was, you know, it would have been a little too much for the two of us, but perfect for the three of us. Did the exact same thing. Put the bird right on top of the gut. And by the way, the broccoli that will blow. Have you ever tried it with broccoli?

1:46:01 I throw different things in there. Broccoli is outstanding when you do that. And so I did that and here's how I did it. I start off at 500 for 15 minutes, then went to 425 for 15 minutes, and then did 30 minutes at 350. So I was like a step down mode. It was, and convection of course. Wow. That would, that really, if you do the, if you like really fry it, step down, step down, sizzle, let it go. Really good. How long was that for? 30 minutes at 350 at the end. So 15 at 5, 15 at 425, and then 30 at 350. So an hour. So an hour total, yeah. Yeah. That was, wow. I mean, I was sucking that bird. Anyway, I want to thank you. No, thank you very much. It was dynamite. Absolutely dynamite.

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Eric Cantor Slip of the Tongue, Virginia Primary

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor is mocked for a slip of the tongue on Meet the Press, where he appeared to say "hard fart primary" instead of "hard-fought." The hosts use the clip to transition into a discussion about the results of the Virginia Republican primary and the performance of Ron Paul.

eric cantor· meet the press· virginia primary· hard fart· slip of the tongue

1:46:56 That was our entire conversation the rest of this program is completely unrehearsed and supported by you the listeners by going to the vorac.org Slash and a and really please do this because We need to up the ante here, and we've got a special special promotion there there you go special thousand dollar promote by the way it will not disappoint and You would you would agree with me John it will not disappoint. It's a good story. Yeah It's a birthday birthday But no agenda Alright only one on the list today, but it's important one Scott Rebska Rebska Rebska Rebska Rebska This is happy birthday to his buddy there, uh, part

1:47:42 And that will conclude our birthday list. Happy birthday from everybody here at the No Agenda Show. Maybe we should do a separate cooking show. I think cooking shows are generally, I think once in a while, I think it's interesting but I think it would be generally boring. I'll tell you what, I'm going to put this recipe for this chicken into the next newsletter we send out which could be next week. And that will so that may encourage people to watch in the newsletter watch the dough come rolling in Dough what if we did no dough involved what if we did an audio cooking show?

1:48:24 No, yeah, well, then I might do it without you. Okay. Go just call you up. Hey, give me give me a new one man Give me a new one. I don't mind talking about it one recipes and cooking once in a while But I just I don't know maybe we'll think about it. Hey, I found a funny a funny miss misspeak from canter Is he congressman canter? Yeah, I think so on meet the press last week. I Listen for it. Joining me now, House Majority Leader, Republican Congressman Eric Cantor of Virginia. Mr. Leader, welcome back to Meet the Press. David, it's good to be here. So, big primary on Tuesday. You have not chosen sides here in this Republican nomination fight. Are you prepared to say who you're with this morning? David, yes, because what I have seen, as you said, a very hard-fought primary throughout the last couple months. Did you hear it?

1:49:13 Yeah, hard what? Hard fart primary. Hard fart. Yeah, hard fart. A very hard fart primary. Yeah, I think that's it. I think he nailed it. He's like, you always get to me. Fart jokes are great. We need more fart jokes. So, uh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I do have to play the right, you know, Virginia is where Cantor's from and he has supported, uh, Romney Romney and then of course there was Ron Paul versus Romney and Ron Paul got 40% of the vote Which was ludicrously high considering all the support that this Romney's got it play the it was a really good analysis I heard on one of the shows from one of these independent progressive guys You can play that and get it catch us up to the well You'd have to tell me which one to play because I'm Ron Paul almost wins, Virginia now you sent this twice and

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Republican Election Strategy, Hillary Clinton 2016

A theory is presented that the Republican Party is intentionally throwing the 2012 election to avoid being in power during an inevitable economic collapse. By allowing Obama to win a second term, the GOP can blame him for the downturn and set the stage for a victory in 2016. The hosts suggest this strategy also clears the path for a future Hillary Clinton run.

mitt romney· ron paul· hillary clinton· economic collapse· super pacs

1:50:08 That was a mistake. Okay, then I will play only one. 100 votes Santorum would have won. So if you burrow into these results very far, you realize that Mitt Romney has really not had that good a Super Tuesday. In fact, the most striking result to me was that in Virginia, where he only faced Ron Paul, more than 40% of the people came out and voted for Ron Paul. Ron Paul actually carried a congressional district there. So Romney still got quite a bit of work ahead of him to close this deal. And as a result, in Virginia, one of the striking things is, Ron Paul did fabulously in college towns. He carried some college towns, he ran very, very competitively in others. And there's a pretty good indication there that he got a decent anti-war vote out of Virginia, or simply just an anti-political orthodoxy vote. But still, getting to 40% there,

1:51:05 against the guy who is the presumed frontrunner and the guy who had the support of all of the Virginia Republican establishment including the governor, Congressman Cantor, others. That's striking to me. So I'm now back to my earlier assertion which was in the pre-Red Book that the Republicans are throwing the election. Because no one wants to have it. I don't think they seriously want the job knowing that there's going to be a economic collapse. And they just assume if Obama... What would happen if a Republican gets in, you have an economic collapse, they get blamed for it and then they get ousted and then the next person to come back would be Hillary. So you think they're playing long game? Yeah. So I want to lose this thing but soak their supporters

1:51:56 So they get lots of money so they can always blame them for not giving enough money. And then you have to make them pay more the next time. Because this thing has become a money game. It's ludicrous. Because Obama's gone to the super PACs himself. Everything he's said about it is null and void. So he's going to spend a billion at least. And the Republicans will spend You can get seven, you can- Probably less than that and then they'll be, they'll be scolded for not spending enough money. This is the only way, and the media is gonna jump on this too because they're of course the beneficiaries. But if they win and then they sink the economy, because anyone's there, it's just gonna happen, it's a cycle, I believe. And then Hillary has a shot at it. But if they, if Obama goes back and he

1:52:47 Sinks the economy and things are really bad by the by 2016 which they should be then Hillary doesn't have a prayer the Republicans will get in and typically in the seventh year of a downturn that like 1937 There's a there's a there's a huge spike so to look like people are happy Yeah, so you have like a mini boom and when is that coming exactly the the mini spike? 2017 okay, I'll wait for that Regarding the super tax. That's my thinking on this. I made this prediction before as you know. Yeah, we'll keep it in there. And I'm leaving it.

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Romney Mormon Mommy Blog, Campaign Image Control

The Mitt Romney campaign reportedly shut down a "Mormon Mommy Blog" run by Romney's daughter-in-law after it posted candid family photos. The hosts argue these photos actually humanized the candidate, and the campaign's aggressive move to suppress them supports the theory that they are sabotaging his image. They speculate on what "mega-fail" moment might be planned for the general election.

mitt romney· mormon mommy blog· buzzfeed· sippy cups· campaign strategy

1:53:25 Speaking of, see, just to stop for a second and play one more clip, I got this weird Romney clip on the NewsHour and that's what re-triggered my thinking. They were two analysts talking about some... Just play the Romney clip and I'll explain it. Middle class neighborhood. And this one, how many times have we all been here with our families seated around the kitchen table, their kids in the middle, the patriarchs... What? They're showing photos of Romney at home. And those yellow tumbler cups that everybody uses. so kids don't spill things. And you know, Lauren, where are these pictures? It's called a sippy cup, you douche. Came from was a blog. It was called the Mormon Mommy Blog, maintained by a daughter-in-law of Mitt Romney. And so this is how it made its way onto BuzzFeed. Once this was publicized, the blog was shut down. Why the campaign? Well, it was shut down. I mean, so once the campaign sees these out, which you're saying make him look pretty good. I think so. Yeah. At least natural. Their reaction was to

1:54:28 I guess they felt that this was private. But when you run for president, part of what you're doing is you're running your family as the potential family to live in the White House. His handsome sons. His five sons. And so it's hard for me to understand why it took an offbeat website to put out pictures that this campaign should pay money to have people look at because it makes Red Romney look like a good It does. Well, it makes him, his big criticism is that he is very stiff, not a hair out of place, very calculated at the debate, not going too high, not going too low. And here, this softens him. But it doesn't seem like the Romney campaign really got that. I mean, it's interesting because in running theme in what we've just looked at today and other things we've talked about. What am I listening to?

1:55:12 This is this is the news hour but the point is is that Romney had a bunch of very pleasant pictures that showed him as a normal person and the campaign went ballistic and they shut down the blog they did all these crazy things because this is not to admit what they're trying to do they don't want him to win huh They did, because this is not the kind of thing, because oh well he's a family man, there he is at home. Shut down the Mormon mommy blog, shut it down and no more of this, we're in control. They don't want him to win. I don't know if Romney himself knows this is going on because I think he's just a stooge. He's a robot, he's lurch. These photos show that he's not a robot but they're making him into one.

1:55:52 I think the whole thing is rigged, I'm telling you. This thing has no chance. You've got a high unemployment rate if you really look at the numbers and if you look at the shadow stat guy in San Francisco's numbers where you have 25% unemployment, true unemployment. This is the would be the first time a president ever gets reelected with these sorts of unemployment numbers. That's how bad the Republicans. Yeah, but it would not be a crazy or out of character for a president to win re-election when you're in the middle of a war. So that's why we need to have a war around October. I think there, you know, I will, I'll put this in the book. I'll predict there will not be an October war.

1:56:31 That idea is going to collapse because Obama's gonna win easily and it'll be well-known fact by then. By October, they're already gonna see the writing on the wall and Obama's gonna get elected easily. So it's gonna be a big, big victory and the Republicans are gonna have to go back to the drawing board, what it looks like, but I think they're throwing it. I think they're throwing the election. In order to do this, so they already are shutting down the Mormon Mambi bloggers. Do you think that they will go as far as to set up a Romney mega fail like a like a Dukakis helmet moment or Howard Dean screen? Why not? What could what could it be? You can't take a chance. What could it be? Gay thing? You think a gay thing would work? Gays are hard. The gay thing is hard to pull off.

1:57:19 It has to be something idiotic. I think the Dukakis... What could be crazier? You and I have to... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If we're running the show... If What do you think? I like the idea, but I think it's going to be, it'll catch us off guard, but when it happens we will have already predicted it. They're going to have a photo of Romney in some dumb costume. In a Zorro costume. It's going to make him lose. With his fly on zips. It's icing on the cake because he's losing already. So there's one thing I wanted to mention about Super PACs. You know we have no agenda here, so you and I both like Ron Paul's message very much. But there's Mark Ames blogged something

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Ron Paul Super PAC, Unemployment Number Spin

The "Endorse Liberty" Super PAC supporting Ron Paul is revealed to have ties to former Jon Huntsman and Mitt Romney supporters in Utah. Additionally, the hosts predict that the media will spin rising unemployment numbers as a positive sign, claiming that more people are entering the workforce because they are "optimistic" about the economy.

ron paul· endorse liberty· jon huntsman· u6 unemployment· cnn

1:58:16 Interesting that the wrong but so, you know, there's a lot of talk about Ron Paul and Mitt Romney being buddy-buddy By the way, it could be it could be both Mitt Romney and Ron Paul and Zorro outfits that could that would be a great picture There's a lot of talk of you know that maybe Ron Paul would be a VP candidate etc. So if we're gonna sink Ron Paul I mean Romney, we might as well take that pesky Ron Paul with us, right? I don't think it's important because Ron Paul is old enough that he's going to be, he's already too old to be elected by the standards that are set by the media. Careful, careful, careful. I don't think Ron Paul is important to get out of the way. I think he's already been marginalized. He's out of the way. He's fourth place. So here's what's interesting. Ron Paul's super PAC, which is called Endorse Liberty,

1:59:07 located in Salt Lake City, Utah. More interesting, the Super PAC staff and founders include several former Romney supporters as well as Huntsman supporters. The founding principals of Endorsed Liberty, Ladd Christensen is a bigwig there in Utah, longtime business partner of Huntsman's dad. So I'm just thinking, interesting. I mean, Huntsman Dad is the super Mormon in the whole picture. He's the Mac Daddy. He's the Mac Daddy Mormon. Yeah, he's actually one of the disciples. So do you think that... Oh really? Yeah, he's one of the rare disciples. I mean, this is a status that you get. You have to be major, major, major league. It's like being a cardinal in the House of Cardinals in the Vatican. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty good. So anyway, I found that to be interesting. Yeah, that is interesting.

2:00:06 And I saw something because you mentioned the unemployment numbers. I saw something very interesting happen this morning on CNN with that douche baguette with the long, the long haired brunette. Um, so they're talking about the, all of a sudden the U six numbers are coming into play. So they say, Oh, well, you know, of course it's the U six numbers and you and I know about the U six numbers cause these are the numbers that show the bums people have dropped out of the workforce. You watch numbers, the numbers they used to use to tell you what the unemployment rate was. Right. So you watch, because here's what they were saying. Well, you can expect the unemployment number to go up because people are so optimistic about the economy that are coming back into the workforce and they're looking for jobs. That's what the message is going to be. It's going to be outstanding. You're going to say, hey, you know, it's things are going. Yes, it's just now they're going to say, no, no, no, you're not reading the numbers right.

2:00:56 Because people are coming back. They they're so excited about the economy and building battery cars that Now all of a sudden that's why the unemployment numbers went up you watch you put that in the red book put that in the red book That's gonna happen. That's gonna be the spin. I'll put it in the red book, but I think it's already happened So I had there was another c-span extravaganza. I was watching this was really quite outrageous This was the cyber security forum And we had senators asking ISPs questions about cyber security. So the Comcast guy is there, you know, a whole bunch of different guys. But this guy Amoroso, you know him?

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Cybersecurity Forum, Cloud Computing Sales Pitch

During a Senate cybersecurity forum, AT&T's Dr. Amoroso promoted cloud computing as the solution to national security threats. Representative Doris Matsui questioned whether ISPs should mandate cloud services for customers. The hosts criticize the testimony as a condescending sales pitch designed to move all private data into government-accessible cloud environments.

dr. amoroso· at&t· doris matsui· cloud computing· cybersecurity bill

2:01:41 Dr. Amoroso. His name rings the bell, but I keep thinking of the celebrity apprentice. He could be on Celebrity Apprentice. This guy is the cyber technical officer or whatever for AT&T. He is such a condescending a-hole and all he's doing throughout this... and he talks to the senators and by the way they deserve it. They're idiots. He talks to the senators like they're little children, but he's selling the cloud and the whole thing was like a sales job to sell the government cloud services and Customers have to be on the clock. Everybody has to be in the cloud It would be much much safer if we're all in the cloud. So I want you to hear really how's it much safer? Oh, is it safer? Well, I'm glad you asked because Doris Matsui

2:02:35 from California, ask exactly that question John and prepare to throw up in your mouth. Thank you Mr. Chairman and this is all challenging and frightening at the same time here. I'm so frightened because we're doing this cyber security, it's scary, we need a cloud. And I do appreciate all of your testimony. I want to go into another area here. As we look into develop an industry best practices standards for ISPs. Should ISPs own cloud services be included as well as other cloud providers or do you think because that technology is newer it could be better for cloud providers to consider forming their own best practices to secure data in the cloud? And like Mr. Mann and

2:03:22 Dr. Amoroso to answer that please. Now before we go to Dr. Amoroso, she says like, Dr. Amoroso, like she's having an orgasm. I'd like to go to our real resident expert, Jean-Claude Dvorak, who has been a reporter on technology for two decades. John, do you think that ISPs should force their customers to have cloud-based services in order to protect the citizens of the United States of Gitmo Nation? God, no. So, um, my mother has a PC at home that at this instant I'm sure is like attacking China or something. It's probably going, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

2:04:08 So he's gonna play it all the way down for the dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb senator. It's not administered properly and she's got a big tower with Verizon, Fios, the whole thing. She doesn't need that. She'd be much better served to have a cloud provider just take care of all of that for her and she should just be using some you know, appliance to hit the internet. The reason she doesn't is because there's software on the PC that she wants to be able to use, hasn't been put in the cloud. So in general, that concept... is a more secure concept than my mom trying to do administration. So I think cloud in general is a more secure model than the one we have now. Oh, okay. Well, that's good to know. Yeah, that's good to know. That's good to know. And by the way, what if she's even on the cloud, they can still, her machine can still be compromised. That's good to know. It's good to know. What an idiot. Okay. So here's the real idiot. Senator Susan Collins in the wrap up, in the wrap up.

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Susan Collins Cybersecurity Claims, Three Billion Attacks

Senator Susan Collins claimed there were three billion cyber attacks on U.S. systems in 2010 to justify a new cybersecurity bill. The hosts debunk this figure, explaining that the "attacks" are likely just routine firewall pings. They name this the "clip of the day" for its absurdity and criticize the lack of technical expertise in Congress.

susan collins· cybersecurity· infrastructure· firewall pings· clip of the day

2:05:10 Here's her takeaway of the threat of cyber cyberness to America I just want to say you don't need to put the nuclear facilities on the internet You don't need to put the trains on the internet It's only because some guy as John has pointed out before was lazy He wants to sit at home scratching his nuts to check in on the network You don't need to connect it all to the internet. It can be really secure. So after this whole rigmarole and this a-hole Amoroso, dr. Amarillo After he's frightened everybody, here's the takeaway from Senator Susan Collins. It's not government owned.

2:05:47 And that's why you have to have a cybersecurity bill that isn't limited just to government systems or government computers, but protects that critical privately owned infrastructure on which all of us rely every single day for electricity, for transportation, for clean water. It's absolutely essential to our security. In the year 2010, the estimate is... Here's an Ask John question. How many cyber attacks were there, John, in the year 2010? I have no idea. I'm sorry, that is not a correct answer and please answer in the form of a question. Do I not have an idea?

2:06:40 Come on, give me a number. I would say, well I mean there's, depending on what you, it's all a matter of definition. What's an attack? If you're going to just say, you know every time somebody pings a server trying to get into one of the ports and you contact it as an attack, you're gonna talk about 10,000, 100,000, a million. If you're gonna talk about actual attacks that did some serious damage, I don't know, two? So now you are Senator Susan Collins. Okay, you've just gotten ugly and you have boobs and You have been convinced by these a-hole shills to a number and your numbers a million. Is that your top-line number? I give it a million. Yeah a million. Okay, we will take that number We're going to write that down on a piece of paper and let's go for Final Jeopardy estimate is that there were three billion cyber attacks on private and government computer systems

2:07:38 So every time somebody pinged a firewall, in other words... 3 billion cyber attacks! Little brother. 3 billion! Maybe we should just run for Congress or Senate or something. Wow. We could do better than this. I'm surprised the thing even works at all if there's that much action going on. Why don't we just shut it down? Hurts. Stop! 3 billion, I tell you! Three billion that's clip of the day play it play the play the theme really I get mom. That's very kind of you I'm happy Three billion estimated that could be five Could be six is it was so disgusting to watch these guys chill out the clouds and literally like a you know You should be doing more business with us. I'm not kidding. They were literally saying that I

2:08:33 How come you're not doing all the business with us? You should be doing more business with us. It's better. We're smart. I'm Dr. Amoroso. Well, that's yeah, that's depressing. Yeah, it's what it is. I mean, it's not as though there aren't millions of people out there that know anything. I mean, there's plenty of experts, especially about, you know, the nonsense that they're trying to promote. And they just don't even bring them up to in front of Congress. It's weird. Well, no. The Congress people? I mean, and then there are the people that work in these congressional offices? Are they that dumb? Yes. I guess so. And they're on the take. Yeah, there's a lot. It's got to be the lobbyists that put these hearings together. So, you know, when we first started the show in 2008, at the time we were talking a lot about the North American Union and the Amaro and all of that stuff. And that kind of... Ah, yes, we've all... We've lost track of the Amaro. Yeah.

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North American Union, State Department Passport Card

The U.S. State Department's "Passport Card" is identified by the hosts as a precursor to a North American Union ID. While the card is marketed as a convenient way to travel to Canada and Mexico by land or sea, the hosts argue it is the first step toward a unified regional citizenship.

passport card· north american union· hillary clinton· canada· mexico· travel.state.gov

2:09:29 But there's something that I caught Lucifer Clinton talking about the other day that I was like, wow, I think there is a North American union. Well, if you were a member of a North American union, what would you need to prove that you're a member, that you're a citizen of the North American union? A citizen? An ID, a common ID? Yeah, go to travel.state.gov if you don't mind. Okay. And Okay, you see there's a nice picture of Lucifer. I'm not there yet. Okay. I had to open up a browser and dot state dot gov Okay, there's a picture of Lucifer Not a good picture by the way, so no no I'm surprised. What's up with this. It's a screen capture I think her facelift has failed

2:10:24 Don't think you could I don't think that is I don't think she's had a face. She needs a facelift No, no, I understand she has oh really yeah, and I think you know they only last so long I think it was seven years seven eight years ago, and it's collapsed Yeah, they do on that they do unless now click on the passports tab Passports right because she's promoting the there's actually a little video about you know get your passport. It's cool You know get your passport You're there at Passports? Yeah. On the left hand side you'll see something called Passport Card about halfway down. Yeah, Passport Card. Passport Card. My family all has one. I'm probably going to get one. So what is the Passport Card good for? You can't travel internationally with a Passport Card. No, it's good for going to Canada and Mexico.

2:11:12 Which would be the card you're describing, which is a card to get you... Which is? It's your ID card for the North American Union. Thank you! That's all I wanted to hear! Yeah. And I'll tell you something, it is a cool card. You have this? You have the Gitmo card? No, my daughter has it and Mimi has it. Why? Because they go to, in Port Angeles, there's a little boat that takes you right to Canada. Why not just get a proper passport? Like an American United States passport. Back and forth, when you just throw this card at them, it's more convenient. So you're falling under the trap. The thing is, not to promote the idea because of what you're thinking,

2:11:50 But it is the coolest card I'd recommend you getting one. A patch is next for you Johnny boy, I'm telling you. A big yellow patch. Little thing to wear on my jacket. Hey, this patch is cool. Start with a pin. You'll be like, these pins are dynamite. They're so beautiful. It's got the three flags. They're just beautiful to look at. This is the beginning my friend. It is totally the beginning. Just that just slayed me. Oh we can cross off one of the the the red book the red prediction book I said it would happen. I don't know if I ever specified it would happen in America I probably did so you can put like a pencil line through it. I've always said that one day reality television will take us to actual death row executions and lo and behold in China we have the execution factor of

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Reality TV Executions, NBC Smash Ratings

The hosts discuss a Chinese reality show that interviews death row inmates, predicting that a similar concept will eventually come to American television. They also analyze the success of the NBC show "Smash," attributing its high ratings to its appeal to specific demographics and its use of "catfighting" and intrigue.

china· reality tv· death row· nbc· smash· ratings

2:12:47 Where there's a reality show they haven't done it right yet. They need to hire the curry DeVry consulting company Where miss ding the national celebrity host? interviews inmates on death row Just before they're offed and I think I'm getting killed no no no it's getting there. You gotta do that. Yeah, well I'd say I think You need to do it like we want to do it. We keep going to cliffhanger shots of the phone on the wall You know it's like and then the phone will ring and then oh, oh And we'll cut the commercial we come back and then you see that the the warden picks up the phone is like oh

2:13:28 No, pepperoni, man. I said pepperoni. Yeah, and we can drag that out for a good 22 minutes. Yeah, well you have to use it as the teaser to end the show too. I mean, you can't have an execution a show. You have to have one execution per show. Well, what? No, you don't. I don't think so. At least one. I think you could drag out the execution part. So you're saying drag- no, no, no. By the way, you have to have at least one execution per show. You have to drag it out because otherwise it's like any other TV drama where you know that this guy's gonna put himself in jeopardy. You know he's not gonna get killed because it would ruin the show. And if you know the guy's gonna get killed... No, no, hold on. You have to understand that

2:14:12 The on our show the guy always gets killed, but how is it the electric chair? Where's eyes bulge out or is it lethal injection and we can have a wild card strangulation How about a shiv in the end? Yeah, that's our wild card oh We're so oh We have to go to the next contestant cuz this one got shivved With a sharpened toothbrush handle I'd love to produce that and may I point out that I know what I'm talking about Have you seen the ratings for smash? Hello top of the list top of the list smash Monday nights NBC lineup show is terrible. Mm-hmm

2:15:02 Of course it's terrible, but I told you it would do well because they brought in all the gay back. It was perfect. They had dancing, they had intrigue, they had, you know, now the girls are catfighting and the gay guys had sex on the show. And then they both said it was the worst sex they'd ever had. I'm telling you, the show is awesome. These people know what they're doing. So you're thinking the more gay they go, the more shows they do? Ratings. Hello, lesbians ratings, gay ratings. It always works. Find the show tiresome. Yeah, I'm not saying that I'm just saying I'm just saying from a television executive perspective John and Adam says blue Sunday night. I was flying in a Baltimore about 1045 p.m. On United listening to the aircraft porn channel, which we all know is channel 9 That's from the flight deck

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Benjamin Netanyahu Flight Code, Aircraft Tracking

A listener report from an air traffic control frequency near Baltimore-Washington International Airport suggests that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's flight used the code "LL 033." The hosts note the recurring appearance of the number 33 in high-level diplomatic movements and speculate on its significance.

benjamin netanyahu· el al· flight 33· potomac approach· andrews air force base

2:15:50 On the frequency for Potomac Approach, which does most of the Baltimore DC area at a time on Sunday night, coincidentally on that flight I was listening to episodes 381 to 382, really digging the pipeline stuff. But I hear traffic, so there's like the air traffic controllers, for an LL flight, which caught me as out of place. Following is a rough transcript. Wait, I'm sorry. This is LL Potomac. This is LL 033. Can you confirm your destination after Baltimore? Potomac? LL 033 at Andrews. Roger. Thank you. You have a good night. LL 033. So this of course was BB Netanyahu and his flight number is 33. Wow. I mean is that awesome or what? That's fantastic.

2:16:44 We've been following this now for two or three years and we still have no idea. No idea what it means! What it means? It means something. We don't know what it means but we love it and we know something's afoot when it happens. Yeah, it's not washing up on shore anytime soon. You know someone sent me a link about the foots and they said that's because people commit suicide off of the bridge. Yeah, you're not buying that now some dirt you see I thought the one with a dolphin rape That's my favorite answer. That was the best answer. I think that's my favorite Let me see as we wrap it up here it appears Well before you rat go too far field let me do the one last kind of funny clip I have group is our friend Aaron Burnett. Oh can I say something about Aaron? Yes, so I tried to a sit-through Super Tuesday, and I would fire

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Erin Burnett Camel Editorial, CNN Production Quality

CNN's Erin Burnett is criticized for a bizarre editorial where she linked Rick Santorum's use of the phrase "the straw that broke the camel's back" to a history of presidents and camels. The hosts mock the segment as a career-ending move and suggest the production quality at CNN is intentionally undermining her.

erin burnett· cnn· rick santorum· camel toe· editorial· wolf blitzer

2:17:45 Every single person who was involved in that show from the production standpoint. The panel was boring. Oh you've done that CNN The panel was boring. Terrible. Aaron's lighting was so bad. I think they're trying to ruin her. Someone, I mean, I actually thought the same thing. Someone is trying to ruin her career. They had a profile shot and she had her mic pack on her back so she looked like Quasimodo and her butt looked unflattering in that particular shot in that outfit. But the lighting, it just, it was so bad. Why are they trying to hurt Aaron Burnett? It's Burnett by the way, that's how we pronounce it here at Tejas, Burnett. It's just, it was so boring, they didn't have her on enough and she's the only one who was pretty. And they got the Ari Fleischer, eugh. You got Anderson Pooper, eugh. And then Wolf Blitzer. I mean, put Ryan Seacrest in there. Wolf Blitzer is a douche.

2:18:47 And he's like just rattling numbers like... I mean you've got... That's a good sound effect you did there. You've got all the elements you need. So I'm watching her show and she, you know at the end of every show, this is one of the things by the way that when I was even when I was doing Silicon Spin and there was a guy that ended up going back to CNN but Don't know if you do a lot of any sort of cable or anything else and you're doing some sort of a Anything pretty much and in fact I'm surprised that luckily we have no suits telling us what to do They want you to do an editorial at the end. Yeah, this is like the ridiculous, and this is her What does she call it? I don't know Aaron's and I call it Aaron is nuts, but I

2:19:36 She's forced to do these dumb editorials and it's such a stretch for her because this is not anything she can naturally do and obviously she's having trouble. She took a phrase from Santorum about, that's the straw that broke the camel's back. Oh I saw this, oh my god, I saw this, how stupid was this? This was the stupidest thing I've ever heard. She made a whole editorial about Camels in history and how this is he brought back the camel meme and he didn't he went there He brought back the camels. I can't believe he went that was play the clip. I can't yeah, it's killing me now It's bad last night I was at the CNN election center for Super Tuesday And I jolted awake when I heard Rick Santorum cuz she was sleeping on the set yeah, Joe did awake yes I've said it almost every stump speech. I've given I

2:20:29 If it wasn't for one particular issue that to me breaks the camel's back with respect to liberty in this country and that is the issue of Obamacare. Camel? Sure, he was using a popular expression, broke the camel's back to illustrate his frustration with President Obama's policies. But could the use of camel have been an attempt to seem more presidential? Because you may not realize this, but there is a proud tradition of members of the US administration hanging with camels all over the world. Last year, Vice President Joe Biden got up close and personal with some camels in Mongolia.

2:21:10 In 2009, President Obama met some camels while visiting Egypt. First lady Jackie Kennedy rode a camel in Pakistan in 1962. In 1909, Teddy Roosevelt, see that? Riding camels in the Sudan. In 1897, this is my favorite, a 23-year-old Herbert Hoover went to work for a mining company in Australia. While he was there, he went back and forth to work every day. He commuted by camel. And it goes even further than that. In 1787, George Washington, a huge fan of exotic animals, paid 18 shillings to have a camel brought to his house for Christmas. I mean, Ron Paul, I mean that's probably got to be like 18 billion dollars in today's dollars, right? Well look, we've been a two-party country for a long time. You know, anyway, I didn't get the end of the very end of the clip. She suggests the camel party. Here's how I would have wrapped up that editorial. Now we were in a meeting like, okay Aaron,

2:22:07 Is this really the best you can do? Okay, we'll run with it, but you have to wrap it up like this. So I'm President Eisenhower. You know, you've rented a camel to get to and from work. I'm Aaron Burnett. I'm off to adjust my camel toe! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha. Geez. Then I would have had some respect. I don't know. So anyway, I could not believe it. They're gonna get rid of her. Yeah, no kidding. No kid is done. It was that it was the camel thing that did it God It was just plain stupid. Why are we talking about this anyway? Anyway, well because we were at one time both fans of Aaron Burnett. I mean yeah, we were well that was

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Egypt NGO Crisis, Ray LaHood's Son

The release of American NGO workers from Egypt, including the son of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, is linked to a $3 billion IMF aid package for the country. The hosts argue that these NGOs are fronts for CIA-backed efforts to influence foreign elections and that the workers were essentially ransomed by the U.S. government.

ray lahood· sam lahood· egypt· imf· ngos· cia

2:22:54 Those were the days! But I think they've screwed her. I think, and I think I didn't know what you were talking about, but now that you mention it, that's just all part of the scheme. It's just the way it works. They'll have a meeting after they get rid of her. Say, well, you know, she was never any good. I don't know why we hired her. And what was that camel thing? Yeah, the camel thing will be brought up in the meeting. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Seriously? Because I didn't, I was, I had it on while I was cooking and all I could think was camel toe. I swear to God, I'm not kidding. That's, that's what it triggered with me. Yeah, well that makes sense now that you mention it. That would trigger with you. Yeah, because that's who I am. Okay, let me just do a quick scan here. Yeah, the only last thing is I saw on PBS NewsHour, Ray LaHood's kid. Oh, by the way, before you close, I do have one last thing too. Go on. Ray LaHood's kid was one of these shills, the techno experts there at

2:23:55 In Egypt at the NGOs who weren't being let out of the country and now there's horrible things. Of course, we all know that the the the IRI the the DNE all of these so-called NGOs are all CIA efforts. to essentially help train techno experts to overthrow dictators and influence elections. Although they say they're there to help elections. So it's bull crap. And particularly when you're Ray LaHood's kid, I mean, come on. Yeah, what's this all about? Really? So here's how it went down, underreported, I think. So they were negotiating, right? They were trying to get these kids back. And the minute they were released,

2:24:42 What happens but the United States declared it backs the International Monetary Fund's efforts to aid Egypt. This was a huge money deal. Yeah, so these a-holes there they held these kids, shills or not, said hey you get us some dough from the IMF. Here's what I tell you, shall I tell you what's gonna happen next? I bet you I get you they're gonna pop one of these guys like McGraw he they're gonna pop like Omar Rahman or one of these guys out of jail here They're gonna they're really gonna start doing it. They're gonna start they're gonna start popping people They're grabbing them in Egypt, and they won't let him go until we let one of these like shake Omar Omar Abdel-Rahman this good this guy's the next one they'll let him out on you know like you know humanitarian reasons or whatever and

2:25:35 There's a lot of negotiating going on in the background because Egypt is out of control. Out of control. So they got three billion dollars from the IMF in return for Ray LaHood's kid. That's what he's worth. Put it in the red book. Okay, it's in the book. So the most important story, I've saved it for last. Is that good enough for you MS Small Biz? Is that enough news for you? Do we do enough analysis? You chat room shill? So, they pushed it to page 14, I think it's actually one of the more important stories in the New York Times, and I think it's going to have ramifications in the Republican Party. Pat Robertson says marijuana should be legal. Pat Robertson, the 700 Club guy, he says the war on drugs is a failure, it's a joke. Quote, I really believe we should treat marijuana the way we treat beverage alcohol.

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Pat Robertson Marijuana Stance, Gold Repatriation, Outro

Pat Robertson's recent endorsement of marijuana legalization is discussed as a major shift in conservative religious rhetoric. The show concludes with a brief mention of Germany and Switzerland requesting to inspect their gold reserves at the New York Federal Reserve and a sign-off amidst warnings of solar storms.

pat robertson· marijuana legalization· federal reserve· germany· switzerland· solar flares

2:26:32 I've never used marijuana, I don't intend to, but it's just one of those things I think. This war on drugs just hasn't succeeded. So there you have it, folks. What does that mean? The most conservative religious leader shill in the United States says let's do it, along with, you know, Ron Paul. Now you have a... it's a... it's can't... this can't continue. What can't continue? The war on drugs? This war on drugs has got to end. About time. Anyway, they buried it, but it was still top of the fold. So it's on page 14 It should at least been teased on page 1 and I don't think it was and I will make a minor note that both Germany and Switzerland have members of Parliament requesting to see the gold

2:27:23 Held at the Federal Reserve in New York come back to their countries. They've been trying to do this for a while That's what I want I want them to test it drill a hole in that sucker. They'll show up, but they won't test it just be plated gold-plated tungsten Yeah, here it is! We got you gold right here! It's all good! Trust me, trust me, trust me! Look over—look at the camel toe! Don't look at the gold! You kidding me? Well, John, as always, it is quite a pleasure to catch up with you on a bi-weekly basis. I wish we could have done a little bit better today. And if you would like to support the show,

2:28:08 Then please consider us in your dreams. Dvorak.org slash NA. And who knows, maybe one day you will find the cooking with crackpot and baking with buzzkill episode. I think we would do great. It's cooking with crackpot, baking with buzzkill. And we throw in some like UFO stuff in the middle of all that. I got this recipe from an alien. A gray. It's my gray souffle, I tell ya. Let me see, uh, we have anything coming up? Uh, I don't know if we have a Noah Jenner Producer Update, otherwise, uh, always make sure to check out the stream, noahjennerstream.com, Lee Brown in the morning. All kinds of groovy shows always rolling on that, as well as repeats of this program.

2:28:53 Coming to you from underneath the desk, because I'm ducking for the solar storms coming here to wipe out the internets in Camp MoFo, the drone star state in the morning everybody, my name's Adam Curry. I think it'd be fun to see the solar flares take out the cloud. Now there would be irony. Anyway, from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back again on Sunday, right here on No Agenda. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K