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00:00 I will not use that word or ginormous. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, February 23rd, 2012. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 385. This is no agenda. Jamming all GPS's here at Camp MoFo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're only 15 episodes away from episode number 400 on the No Agenda Show, I'm John C. DeVore. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! That's right man, 400 episodes of love!

00:42 okay maybe not maybe not it really love but yeah to check to one two two two Check to check to to to to so it looks like the Israelis are gonna use drones to guard the Leviathan Really of all the things I thought I would have picked up as a story you found it, huh? I didn't Israel to use drones really the guard gas fields from Hezbollah Really what publication I need that link. That's fantastic World Tribune it makes so much sense doesn't it sure it's so cheap. I

01:19 I mean it doesn't make sense with the military-industrial complex, but you know I was thinking it's funny you bring this up because I was watching a Was I watching this some China fellow who was demonstrating his drones and they can go like 70 kilometers an hour two kilometer distance and or altitude and with the camera and he's like oh this is gonna replace helicopter pilots of course is true and And I'm looking at that and I'm like, our game show, Win, Lose or Drone, it should really be kind of like, it is a running man thing, but you have a shotgun. And these drones start flying around. It's like a shotgun. You get a shotgun or the shotgun is on the drone? No, the drone has a taser and it can shoot beanbags. But you get a shotgun and it's like a skeet shooting game. And except the skeet shoot back.

02:12 So how would you score this? I mean, would the drones throw a beanbag or a taser bomb at you and then you'd be knocked out and you'd lose? It's like space invaders. So these drones are coming at you and it starts with one or two and they're happy little colors, right? And they're easy to knock off. And then as you keep going, And of course you're in some bombed out city or something so you do have some places to kind of hide. Some of them are explosive and basically if one of them gets you then the game ends. Can you get killed? Yeah, that's the getcha part. I think it would be cool with a skeet shoot angle is something no one's thought of. I think it'd be cool to have like a nice

02:52 Nice Shotgun that you can run around with and you see the drone you turn and shoot it drone hunt That's what we'll call it drone hunt something I'm telling you hear me now believe me later this show will eventually be on the air and you and I will probably be sitting on this damn podcast going no I told you I go in and get a piece of that we can get a piece of that action man some points In the morning to you John C. Dvorak in the morning to you Adam Curry in the morning all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air What we originally thought were flying saucers are actually an invasion like we have never seen They've come to bring their message to the masses So this was a commercial on local Austin television guess what that was for

03:58 Mars knees women? No, the Volkswagen dealership. I guess the new Jetta. I have like three different stations on at one time. I think this was maybe, it must have been, I don't know if it was the local station. The new Jetta. And I'm like, and I hear this attention all ships at sea. I'm like, who's ripping us off now? And I look over and I see like, I'm like, what is this? And they have like all this old footage. I mean, you know, there's some guys at some advertising agency in Austin going, Hey man, I got a good idea. I uh... Not that I heard this anywhere or anything, but I got a cool idea to you something.

04:35 And you know they can do still do stuff like that in a little town like Austin which is this cosmopolitan enough to have a few creative people there and then We have more than a few we got a bunch of suits we got tons of creative people here man What Joe saying boy anyway? I also want to say in the morning to all of the human resources who are checking in at no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net Mr.. Oil and Gitmo slave have a new system set up which I guess is working now so people can hear us Streaming live and I hope so, but I know the majority listen on the podcast But boys that appreciated to have those human resources bitching at us in real time setting us straight keeping us on the the straight path straight and narrow path and while I'm honest Do not

05:29 Use Anderson Pooper slogan on this program. So last night I got a bunch of pooper stuff. Oh good. Well, we rushed home. We had we well we because it the the presidential the GOP X factor starts at 7 here. We're on central time instead of 8 So we had a nice bite to eat and watch the sunset, which by the way in Texas are spectacular. Just the most beautiful sunsets you've ever seen. It's all that dust in the air. Okay, whatever. Mr. California, it's so healthy where you live.

06:12 And so we get home now many people will only see snippets of these so-called debates and And don't actually see the whole thing and notice how often they try to screw over Ron Paul where he had to actually interrupt Excuse me. Excuse me. Can I answer the question by the way John as a television executive? Which is how we analyze most of this? Mean these they had these little desks that they had the guy sitting behind yeah They should have had like a little little cup with crayons on every desk. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen Yeah, they were too different. Well. They were too tiny. They did switch it up. I liked it. They put Ron Paul on the left-hand side next to Santorum then Romney then Gingrich, so it was a it was a good mix-up and

07:00 The director was horrible. He was cutting to stuff too fast. He would stay on people way too long. You knew a question was coming because it was almost like they were previewing the camera for the question in the audience. I'm like, why are they showing this shot of this guy? And like, oh, okay. And then John King would say, oh, time for a question from the audience. Whoever was directing or the technical director maybe had sticky keys. But the thing that really got me Is this episode of the president, the GOP X Factor, the opening montage. I don't know if you had a chance to catch it. I missed the very I missed the first five minutes. Oh, the opening montage. I think they actually got the guy now from X Factor to do the voiceover.

07:47 And I swear to God, you'll hear this thing, this open, and after it, you just want Ryan Seacrest. You don't want John King. It's just like, where's Ryan? I'm ready for this. Listen to this, John. This is, listen to how they title the contestants in this contest. In Arizona tonight, a grand showdown in a presidential contest that's been all over the map. If you don't like the state of the race right now, wait a couple of weeks. This has been like riding Space Mountain with this. The Republican race could take another turn right now when the GOP candidates return to the debate stage.

08:28 Rick Santorum, the late contender. Listen to this, the late contender. Does it's a two man duel now and he'll be the one left standing. I stand here to be the conservative alternative to Barack Obama. Mitt Romney, the long distance runner, says every rival that's threatened him has made him stronger. My conservatism is to the core. Newt Gingrich, the determined challenger, vowing to compete win or lose until the last votes are cast. And now we intend to change Washington, not accommodate it. Ron Paul, the delegate hunter, keeping his campaign

09:08 Ron Paul, the delegate hunter. That was the stupidest thing I've ever heard. It's the duel in the desert. And then you got John King again, the worst. I mean this guy should be ashamed of himself. I have a couple of poignant clips that just kind of explain what I'm talking about when I say this. And I might want to run them. Let me open up my clip file. Play the one, Santorum. I only have this cut, I just cut it off. I just want you to listen to the question and then start to listen to Santorum's answer and then I'll finish off by explaining what happened. Santorum on contraception. You told an evangelical blog, if elected, you will talk about what quote no president has talked about before. The dangers of contraception. Why?

09:58 What I was talking about is we have a society, Charles Murray just wrote a book about this and it's on the front page of the New York Times two days ago which is the increasing number of children being born out of wedlock in America, teens who are sexually active. What we're seeing is a problem in our culture with respect to children being raised by children, children being raised out of wedlock and the impact on society economically. He goes on and on and on like this. He never talks about the dangers of contraception. He actually talks about, he gives the counter argument of why contraception might actually be important because you're having all these babies everywhere. It went on for five minutes with this crap and John King

10:43 Never says Jack about it. He's asked him a question. What's the dangers of contraception? He doesn't even come close to answering it He goes off the deep end about teenage pregnancy, which seems to me to be the out the obverse of the dangers of contraception I figured this out by the way, what is wrong with this guy? Well, I figured out what's going on with the contraception thing. I So we have to understand that we have these super packs and the super packs Basically control the media messaging because all these millions of dollars go through the super packs straight to the media as you've pointed out John The the whores at the mainstream media companies. They just want more of it. So yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll we'll we'll talk about your ad We'll run it. Yeah, you buy do a media buy we'll talk about it. Yeah, whatever the issues we'll talk about it. It's all good so the problem with the super pack is

11:32 is that it can, you can have money coming in. We could basically set up a super PAC as, let's say we were raging liberal Democrats and we set up a super PAC for Rick Santorum. And we'll just call it the Rick Santorum is awesome super PAC. And we will then go pour 10, $20 million into media messaging. And we know that we'll get our deals because that's how it works, you know, money talks. And this happened, do you remember the debate with George Stephanopoulos? It was the ABC debate. Now ABC is of course super compromised and this is where this issue came up for the first time with Romney.

12:12 And it came out of so out of left field and even Romney was like, I don't understand why are you asking me this question? No one's talking about this issue whatsoever. This is the one where he just was flabbergasted by the question. Because, well, Stephanopoulos is, of course, a Clinton operative. This is why he introduced this question. It is completely done with one reason and it's to get the Republican Party bitching and moaning and fighting and Santorum is a total idiot. The guy actually is sitting there believing that he's great. You can see it in his eyes. He believes that he has a chance. He doesn't understand that he's being played like a Stradivarius fiddle, my friend.

12:57 So they've pumped this guy up. So what we've all week for two weeks, all we hear is contraception, religion and Santorum is such a doofus. Satan is attacking America. And meanwhile, Obama is like, this is great. Good job, guys. You got them all off message. They're not talking about the economy. They're talking about the rubbers in the pill. It's this it is this is very, very, very dangerous. for the Republican Party who want to unseat Obama and it's working. They're so stupid. Yeah, well Santorum is definitely at the top of the list. He's definitely the dumbest of the four guys, there's no doubt about that. Did you see the subliminal messaging outside? It's all over the net and I tweeted a picture of it.

13:49 I retweeted I should say so they cut to this they're going to commercial They only had like three commercial breaks they cut to commercial you see a whole bunch of signs most of them Ron Paul signs But then if you freeze-frame it, and you know the subliminal stuff works. It's actually outlawed You can't do subliminal messaging, so you know people saw it. That's why they they a lot of them tweeted this picture there's a guy holding a sign a professionally made sign at least you know like with real fonts and printed and And on a piece of wood or cardboard and it says frothy mix like Santorum frothy mix anal lube and fecal matter CNN broadcast that

14:30 Yeah, it's fantastic so This you are not only a Santorum being played But the audience is being played and which is correct. This is why it's an entertainment show is why I thoroughly enjoy watching it although Unfortunately doesn't do much for the country. It's not gonna help America much no, not at all and you know I've had a an interesting email conversation with Doug weed and Remember Doug Weed? Yeah, I do remember Doug Weed. He's the guy that showed up and we like, hey, who is this guy all of a sudden? And he's now the spokesperson and senior advisor for Ron Paul's campaign. I had a very interesting email back and forth with him. And what happened? Well, so the last thing we discussed, I said, look, listen, hear me now.

15:27 I truly believe, I think you know the constant messaging great, you know it's fantastic that you have Ron Paul not wavering, not falling for the traps, but I think the people are ready to understand that you know we don't need Romney to go kill people in brown people in sandy areas to protect pipelines and oil and gas transport. And we came back with an interesting response saying yeah, I totally agree on that analysis. But then when it comes to the I thought I thought Ron Paul was really good last night, but I think I think he failed on the Iran thing. Yeah, and when he gets

16:06 Um, well I was very disappointed in his performance to be honest about it. Yeah, I agree. Not finishing the sentences is the problem. He'll have something that he just, you know what he's going to say, you know what he's talking about if you've been following him, but if you're just listening to him cold, it's like can't this guy finish his sentence? I agree. And when he gets excited. And it's very poorly, you know, and he gets excited and he You know, he tries to talk fast because they don't give him enough time so he rushes. When he gets excited then he completely messes up his sentences. So he said, okay look I know that the you aren't listening to me on I've tried to explain this several ways let me attack it from an economic perspective and instead of saying

16:47 Which is kind of, if you say it like this, like the reason why Russia left Afghanistan where they were for over a decade is because the whole process had bankrupted Russia. The way it came out of his mouth was the reason why the Russians left here is, you know, it's like, oh, You know, it had no impact. That was very... It was funny in the beginning when he said, you know, Santorum is fake. That was very strong. But I agree. And particularly the Iran issue, he didn't nail it. He did not nail it. It was very disappointing. I agree. He had the right idea. Well of course he has the right idea, we all know that. He's got the right idea but I mean maybe we just say hey American people don't want to kill brown people and sand anymore to protect oil and gas interests. Get over it already and these douchebags are all in on it. I mean what difference does it make? That would get the point across but you know. Yeah but we can't do that because I don't know that's kind of what I was trying to tell Doug Weed is just say something to the American people that they understand in English.

17:51 Well, I was I have this clip I did don't want to There's a couple of other things these guys are doing that are weird. The one that got me, and I thought that maybe Ron Paul would come in out of this, only he has got screwed out of most of these, you know, they do three and then they skip it, and then they do three and they skip it, then they just ask some generalized question, they go to him first. Yeah. So it has the least impact. I mean, it was so rigged, it was ridiculous. But the one that got, the one that got me was, I think, failure to answer questions right is the clip. Why don't you play that and I'll explain what I'm talking about. Why was George W. Bush wrong in his efforts to save the auto industry and why was Barack Obama wrong to continue the effort? Senator Santorum, I want to go to you first with this question. You, like your friends on the stage tonight, opposed the auto bailout. Michigan votes on Tuesday along with Arizona. We assume folks are watching there tonight. Address your answer to an auto worker who may believe strongly that he or she has that job tonight because of the help, the bailout.

18:50 I would just say to them that I in principle oppose government coming in and bailing out a sector of the economy or an industry with government dollars and with government manipulation of that market, which is exactly what happened twice in 2008 and 2009. The first time it happened was the Wall Street bailout. on principle I opposed the Wall Street bailout. Even though I understand people, reasonable people could disagree, I felt that having the government come in in such a major way and have a huge influence... Now all these guys answered this question pretty much the same way except... All incorrectly. ...Santorum for not really, you know, he was opposed in principle with crap.

19:36 was addressed the answer to auto workers who think that they have their job because of the bailout and not one person did answer the answer to the obvious way that would indicate they have some understanding of either business or workers. They never never addressed the workers and all you had to do was say and you would have gotten away with this and it would have buried everybody else would have and you could start with look Which is always a good one because people at home go, uh, what? Something's gonna be going through bankruptcy doesn't mean you're going to lose your job You would have the same job today if the process had gone its normal course what you've got now is a jet where you've got now is a job where you're Just short of working for the government You don't want to work for the government if you're in the private sector because there's no possibility of getting out of that that government payment system the GS whatever it is

20:29 So you wouldn't so workers out there you would still be working you might actually be doing better There may be even more factories running under the bankruptcy laws. That's what they do is to protect the company Yeah, it's to protect the company from creditors. It's not to turn the company over to the government so that so the workers You know and not one person said this to anybody no they just gave a crap no all they did was attack all they did was attack the unions and Obama yeah and if I were there I would have said look I would have said what happened is they paid back all the money to the government because they got a cheaper loan from the private sector which is the way it should be in the first place except without the without kicking out your CEO and everything by government mandate John how come we're not running for president we'd be so much better

21:22 Well, maybe we'd choke. We'd be very dead or we'd be. Well, we would be. They don't know body. You don't just don't push. Could you imagine? I could buy your imagine. Can you imagine me with my Tourette's and you with your look? I have to give credit to Gingrich for doing that better than anybody else. Whatever he's asked, he says, well, that's not the right question to ask. He's very good. It's not the right question. You're asking the wrong question is my favorite thing to say. Yeah, he said. So Mr. Gingrich, have you been killing anybody recently? You're asking the wrong question. The question should be whether Obama is going to do this again. I know, I know. He's good. And they don't stop him from doing this. He's good. John King is the biggest loser in the universe. Kerry King sucks at this. Why do they... They obviously put him on because he's a softballer that can't

22:16 call these guys out for not answering the questions or anything else. I mean it's unbelievable. Did you see his eyes? They were like, he was like, you think he was coked out again? No, he would have been taught, no, no, no. He was on something. He was on something. His pupils were like dilated. I maybe they had to slow him down or something because if he's normally speedy self from whatever could be natural high. He talks too fast. Well anyway, so was this the last debate now we get to... We wish.

22:54 I know I look at a book of knowledge as soon as any more debates coming up no I think I think they all cancelled the the next debate before Super Tuesday which is coming up right isn't it like a new day no no no like March 7th there's a loose day I know that yeah is it fat Tuesday is that Tuesday was yesterday or the day before but it is interesting how the how Super Tuesday is right around Mardi Gras Can't be any coincidence. Debate schedule, here it is. Alright, while you're looking that up, another interesting donor to the SuperTax? Here, this is it. 22nd was today. March 1st, cancelled. March 5th, cancelled. March 19th on PBS in Portland, Oregon, they're gonna have it. PBS? Yeah. So, well, might as well not have a debate. Yeah, that looks like the last one. And before Super Tuesday?

23:51 I don't know when Super Tuesday is. Is it just... I thought it was... Consult the book of knowledge when it's Super Tuesday. Meanwhile, I will play a clip of the latest donor to the Ron Paul Super PAC. Co-founder of PayPal is pumping cash into the Super PAC supporting Ron Paul. New filings with the Federal Election Commission show Peter Thiel donated 1.7 million dollars in January. That's on top of 900,000 dollars he donated in December. The money from the Silicon Valley billionaire accounts for 76% of the SuperPAC's fundraising so far.

24:38 And then it'll be a brokered convention and that's when Jeb Bush will rise from the ashes and they'll choose him. Yeah, that's what he keeps saying. Everybody's talking about this. I got to stick with Romney all the way. They're really talking about... No, I think Romney's out. He's out. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's why they brought this though those crazy things from 2008 That's satanic crap from Santorum. That was good to calm him down a little bit You know what he should have done Santorum should have done, you know, have you ever listened to yes, we can backwards Cuz that's actually thank you Satan. He's saying thank you Satan Obama is the Antichrist. That's what he should have said man that now that would have been cool. I

25:15 And I bet you a lot of people would have bought into it. Yeah, especially the people that like Santorum There are no people that like Santorum, but look at the guy's eyes. Look at his eyes. Look deep into his eyes He believes it. He's such a bonehead. He really thinks people are loving him and his message. He has no idea This guy is he is set for such a fall. It's it's I don't think it's gonna be much of a fall. Oh, yeah, I'd be a little disappointed I think Ron Paul be the guy with the second way right now Ron Paul still has the second most delegates Yeah, but it means nothing because they're going to a brokered convention. It means not going to a brokered convention. Oh, there we go Okay, that's what it in the book right now. You're saying Romney. I'm saying brokered convention Jeb Bush stands up and you know at this point I think

26:08 The Republican... I know that the Bushes, the Cabal would love that but I just don't think it's gonna happen. See Jeb Bush was out there, he was out on the road doing something. Yeah, you watch. Picking up litter? No, I think he does more than that. Hey, do we have people to credit as executive producers of the No Agenda podcast episode 385 known as the best podcast in the universe? Yes, we do. We have a whole bunch of people to credit. We have two executive producers, as a matter of fact. Right on. Sean Potts in Beaverton, Oregon. First time donor. He started listening to the 85 and he came in with $555.55 because he's going towards his knighthood obviously right off the bat.

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42:00 And the idea here is I guess there's a way to set up a custom image that displays when someone hovers over your Google plus one icon to plus one your post or your story or whatever and there's a way to have then the no agenda show art to come up. And he has produced a web page that explains how to do that. I'm pointing to it, googleplus.nashownotes.com. But this Squarespace site is set to expire in two weeks. So if someone can recode that in HTML and send me the HTML, I'll be happy to set it up on the server. But I thought that was also a good gesture. You've been following this, John, right? This plus one idea. You know, no.

42:47 I have, I'm a member of that Google Plus thingy. Really? And I don't know how anything, it just seems to me to be another one of these social media deals that is just benefits everybody but me. And also I'd like to thank Maynard for interviewing the legendary John C. Dvorak. It was a good interview. I heard it last night before I went to bed. Oh, he actually published it. Yeah, he did. I think it's maynard.com.au. May and I'm saying it correctly now Maynard. I say Maynard, but it's Maynard Maynard Maynard and he's doing a great job publicizing and pushing the show down under and also interviewing some of our nights. So thank you so much to our executive producers. We have two today and a nice list of associate executive producers. These are actual credits. It's exactly the way it works in Hollywood with the bonus that unlike the phonies in Hollywood, if you need someone to vouch, we'll be happy to talk to anyone and tell them that you actually are a producer in the field of media.

43:47 Meanwhile, all y'all can go out and propagate our formula please. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Order. Alright everybody say it loud and proud. Shut up, snake. You know it's funny when you're working with Maynard. He, there's a funny, I mean he's a pro. He's a bit major pro. Yeah. He's like a major pro and so when you work with a pro it's like and compared to like an amateur because I you know do interviews with which is not a denigrating word. No no just a normal podcaster there you know do with it but they're not doing that for a living so they never achieve that kind of screwy professionalism that you can't quite put your finger on but you know when you see it.

44:42 And it's just, I mean he's like way up there in that regard. It's like, it's actually quite funny. Yeah, no, and I find it amusing to work with such people. Well, I find it pleasurable. You find it amusing, I find it pleasurable. I do, I find it amusing. But it's good, I learned some things about you. What? That you like Green Day. I do like Green Day. They're Berkeley good, they're local boys. We need to upgrade you on your, uh... This Green Day. I like Green Day. They're not local. They're not boys anymore. They're like my age. Yeah, I know. I liked it when they first started off 20 years ago whenever it was. You don't like the Beatles? I love the Beatles. Well then there you have it.

45:21 But then why didn't you say I like the Beatles? You know, the Green Day. Well, I'm just saying, which is okay, the Green Day's been around for a while. They're long in the tooth. Is that what you're saying? And I should be upgrading to some hip-hop group? Well, it was in context of you saying, you know, I listen to classical music all day, which we can totally... All of a sudden I had the... I envisioned it. You're walking around... I do listen to classical music all day. I know, I'm sure. You're walking around in your Long Johns. No, no, I got I've had classical music playing 24-7 in my house. I know that I'm giving you Once thank you. I'm giving you the visual that I had I see you walking around in your Long John's You know like with this nice beautiful Cinco de Mayo classical music playing everywhere

46:03 And then, you know, then in contrast to that, yeah, like I like Green Day. Those kids are good. The Green Day kids. Hey, so the couple of things that I've been working on and I'm following very closely what is going on with the campaign contributions, this whole Solyndra thing. And I can see that there's a lot of different elements working and trying to make this look very bad for the Obama administration and they haven't been able to package it. And the idea of course is that there were these, a billion dollars came in in contributions, a lot of the people who made these contributions then set up these great green funds and companies and they got all their money back through the American Reinvestment Act which was essentially the bailout.

46:55 and scam we would call it a scam it's it's a it's a it is a huge scam using our money to finance his campaign and but they can't quite paint it on anybody and this thing about light squared ties into it and I was blown away as I'm researching this I find the interview and this is from November of last year and I guess we kind of Missed it. I mean, I know it was there but you know the whole light squared thing we were looking at the GPS angle and And for drones and I think I was wrong because they've been trying to get this out in the forefront and in this they say they have the seat and they're not the CEO the the the lead the chairman of the the investment fund You know the guy's worth like two billion dollars. Let me give you the guy's name for a second. I

47:49 And he's on with Megan Fox and the accusation at the time Megan Fox not Megan Fox Megan from Megan Kelly from Fox What difference does it make? Put Megan Fox on, I'll watch. So Phil Falcone, you know this guy? Yeah, he's gonna be broke after this whole experience. Falcone's a very famous plunger. Plunger? Yeah, a guy who puts a lot of money into one thing because he thinks he's gonna really get rich. I mean, he's got billions of playability. Billions, so not a problem. So so the at issue here is that and we didn't I don't if we discussed that we kind of glossed over to something else was going on but they had some general muckety-muck Go testify when they were talking about this light squared and so he was basically gonna say look this thing interferes with our With our military GPS, so we can't and light squared for those you don't know is the idea is a multi-billion dollar

48:48 satellite network that'll provide broadband, basically a ring of broadband all around wherever the satellite coverage is, which is kind of cool. And the accusation here, which is not the importance of the clip, is that the general was asked by the White House to tone down the rhetoric about that this was bad. I thought we played this clip back in November. Well, I don't think we did because the thing that hit me... Now I I used to be a millionaire. I had millions of dollars. I used to be a contender. And on paper I was very, very wealthy. But I had like 12 million dollars at least. And it took me 10 years to spend it. And I'm very happy I did. Yay! I should have died at the end of it. But anyway, even when I had that kind of money, I don't think I've ever put 90,000 dollars into one investment. Really? Your helicopter company?

49:46 No, but I mean, but just to buy to buy stocks. I bought helicopters. That's different. You know, that was I bought some hardware investment. I think it's different. All right. So he's a plunger. But I'm not talking about him. Listen to the report and you'll find out who put in $90,000 in 2005. A powerful new wireless system, one that might cause problems, some say, with GPS systems. Now, this story started back in February of 2005, at least. President Obama puts up to $90,000 of his own money into a little-known firm at that time called Skyterra. September of 2009, an investor named Philip Falcone meets his future business partner at the White House.

50:29 Six months later, Falcone buys SkyTerra and the company becomes LightSquared. January of this year, the FCC gives LightSquared a green light to expand wireless internet bandwidth. That was an important ruling for LightSquared. Then early this month, Air Force General William Shelton says the White House pressured him to change testimony he was giving to Congress after revealing concerns about Light Squared interfering with military systems. He says the White House wanted him to make his testimony a little bit more favorable in essence to Light Squared. So, in 2005, then-senator, freshman senator, Barack Obama has 90 grand laying around? I guess so. A community organizer?

51:19 He's a very successful community organizer. Yeah, but $90,000 I find to be quite a lot of money to throw into some startup that has some... and this was before Falcone was involved apparently. SkyTerra is what it was called. So, you know, so the accusation which... Well, I don't know why they don't make a bigger deal out of this. Well, I think... so we didn't make... if I had heard this I would have made a bigger deal out of it then, but it gets a little bit better. So people have been bailing out of the White House, one after the other. And particularly our buddies, Vivek Kundra, Mr. Skip Lajic, and his boss, Anish Chopra. They both bailed.

52:05 Why do you think they bailed? Listen to this clip. Yeah. And so the CEO of this light squared is a part of the Indian cabal Yeah, and he's working with Anish Chopra the Indian cabal and of course Vivek Kundra's in on this whole deal That's why these guys bailed out They're like I'm getting out of here because it's it's there's a takedown a coming and they haven't figured out how to do it yet But there's a takedown a coming and it also has to do with the recent FCC remarks about have you heard about this spectrum crunch and

53:14 Have you heard of the, have you heard this term yet? This is new. Yeah, yeah, I've heard it. Alright, here it is. Spend more of your time thinking about this. This is a Gershwaka-baka-munkski. the chairman of the FCC. Real pressure on our networks. So, the way it sounds to me There's a fight going on and they still want to push this light squared thing through and I listened to the entire interview with the with the Falcone the the investor and he said really the problem is not us It's the GPS receivers that the military is using are just shitty quality And they just need some filters in there and to filter out the crap which you know typically the problems do lie with the receivers I know this from my CB radio days and

54:15 It was much easier for me to go and fix the neighbor's radio with a little, you know, what do you put like something on the power line or something like a... A choke. Yeah, condensers, whatever. There's things you can do. Yeah, there's all kinds of... We don't know. Coil, all kinds of stuff, and then it would remove the interference because it's usually just a crappy receiver. Filters. Yeah, it's a filter. And so I think that, you know, it's very important that this deal on the one hand, they want to get it through and probably Obama wants to get it through because he's seen his 90 grand. I mean, we're talking about a six billion dollar investment here from this Falcone. That's a lot of money. And I can understand where there's a lot of shenanigans going on to get this thing happening. And there's forces pushing back. But what's what probably what I hope will happen for the country's sake is it will rise to the top as this incredible scam.

55:08 money just flowing and it's just money flowing everywhere money influence the cabal yeah no it's it's pretty obvious that this is a whole thing it's just a bunch of flying money so be on the lookout for for the packaging of this story I think they're really trying to do that and you watch Valerie Jarrett get nailed in the process I hope so I hate that I hate her chance I hate her now she's gonna she's going down She's going down. So I'm talking about Kundra. Oh no. He was hired as the, uh, as some sort of a, I don't know, a liaison or something. Didn't he go to, uh, Vice President of Salesforce? Yeah, Salesforce. Yeah. That's weird because if you look at, I know that, and if you look at his wiki entry, Wikipedia, it says, uh, which is truth. It doesn't mention, right. It doesn't mention Salesforce at all, but he says he's currently a visiting fellow at Harvard University.

56:09 Yeah, he went there first as a fellow and then I keep up with this stuff better than that unless he's got nobody that monitors he went he went straight from the White House to the fellowship and then from the fellowship to Salesforce Salesforce. Yeah, of course. I mean it's perfect for him a big bag of wind and Who has a whole bunch of catchphrases. He's perfect. He's perfect Silicon Valley meat. He totally is perfect Silicon Valley. And it'll shut him up, you know, so he won't say anything. They need to shut people up. Like, oh wow, Assistant US Attorney General John Walsh died while snowshoeing. How did that happen? Well, he was snowshoeing and he died.

57:04 I mean, make it snowboarding running into a tree or something, but snowshoeing, really? And this guy was in the Western District of Oklahoma City. When was the Oklahoma City bombing? This is the day of questions. Yes. Okay, I'll consult a book of knowledge. Consult the book of knowledge! Which is actually Google, but here it is. April 19th, 1995. Okay, so it can't be that no it could be there's a been a bunch of there's somebody's reopening this thing No, I know, but he was transferred out in 91. Oh Okay, then he transferred to the Colorado office, so I don't think it's that he did though I'm looking through all the news. What's this guy's name again? Yeah? It's a tough name. It's you have to do US Attorney Assistant US Attorney General John Walsh because if you do John Wall John Walsh you get there What's his thing that's a new way of Google washing yourself?

58:04 Have a name like John Walsh or have a name like I'm gonna change my name to Jody Foster. I'm gonna change my name to Jody Foster. Hey everybody, in the morning it's Jody Foster with you everybody. How you doing? It's Jody Foster and Tom Cruise. Hey Tom, how you doing? How do we just do that? Tom C. Cruise and Jody M. Foster with you on the radio everybody. Big butt at Buzzkill. Alright Tom, so um There is the way what he did do is he wrote a really weird letter about Marijuana in the state of Colorado. Yeah, yeah, he's apparently So I don't I don't know but this is nice the government or their crackdown that he says not a bluff Yeah, not maybe not such a good idea. Maybe not such a good idea. So it was just a

59:03 I'm like hmm interesting. So he was an anti- he was he was he was apparently for busting up all these marijuana medical marijuana stuff. He's anti-medical marijuana that's what I'm getting am I wrong? That's what I'm getting too. So I don't know but you know for a guy in his early 60s to drop dead snowshoeing it's not not good particularly when it's an assistant US Attorney General and you don't hear anything about it. You know it's like hmm. Well, anyway, okay. Probably the forces of, uh, who knows? Satan, man. Satan did it. Satan. Satan has, is attacking America. Satan! Yeah, for reals. I have, uh, let's see. Well, we can take a break here and take a, uh, I was noticing, just as a premise, this pooper has on, uh, Bob. Well, let me say one thing before you get into pooper. Let me ask you one thing. Why is it?

1:00:14 that real journalists, like the chick with the eye patch, Why do they get killed and not Anderson Cooper? I mean this is poopers it got million bodyguards, and he's in the studio This is mean this but send pooper to Syria. He's not going. He's not stupid Had you ever seen that woman have you did you know of her existence the the woman with the eye patch? Yeah, I don't know anything about it. I well you know she died right she's and yeah Yeah, she was on the front page of today's New York Times as a matter of fact a little square box with her picture in it So, I mean, to me, this whole thing is like, it's just an addition to the script. It's like, okay, no one gives a crap about people anymore. So we can't go in and mess around with Syria because people don't care. And if you have journalists actually roaming around and they're giving real reports, they're suppressed. Well, so she actually

1:01:07 She said on her Facebook to her fellow journalists, I'll probably wind up in front of the firing squad for my next report. Like, oh really? That sounds like it was planted. Well, I don't know if it was planted, but to me it's like we had the guy from the New York Times, he died of an asthma attack. Nobody puts something like that on their Facebook without sending the report out first. Hey everybody, pay attention to me. I'm going to blow the lid off something and the heads will roll. And I'm behind enemy lines and I'm going to really screw them over. Who's going to do that? What I find interesting is... You sneak out first and then you make your, you know, do your stuff. So this is an American-French journalist. She's American and then the French photojournalist was also killed. We know nothing. There's, you know, we got pictures of all kinds of bodies but we don't have pictures of them. No video, no nothing. Interesting.

1:02:01 And Sarkozy is coming out and saying now we got to go in and kick some ass because you know they killed a French journalist But we didn't hear him say anything when French journalist Gilles Jacquie was killed in a rebel attack in Syria So only now it does it seem to be important now that we're ramping it up and even McCain and Lieberman are back with the exact same Libya script I'm not saying that the United States needs to directly supply arms to the Syrian National Army. I am saying that there are ways to get assistance ranging from medical assistance to technical assistance such as GPS and other

1:02:40 things that we could provide the Syrian National Army, support of the Syrian National Council, and there are ways to get weapons into Syria. It is time we gave them the wherewithal to fight back and stop the slaughter. What an a-hole! I mean, what do you even know who these people are? Except that they're Al-Qaeda and they're terrorists. Yeah, let's just arm some terrorists. Good idea there, McCain. This guy. I got no respect for him. He's an embarrassment to the uniform. He's terrible. It's just it's embarrassing that we ran him for president. Yeah well we didn't run him.

1:03:25 So all this rhetoric is being and I think there's something I think there might be a CIA Armed Forces thing going on here. Well, there's some CIA thing going on because Pooper I get back to my point. Yeah Pooper Pooper had on Bob. What's his name? CIA guys in the CIA was a nerd and Fran our buddy Fran Townsend who's the CIA outside person so we have two CIA people. Uh-huh with poop it's like what how about a professor or or somebody somebody was in the field no cia person number one and cia person number two and i do have the bob and fran chip and dale clip here which is kind of the way this is just kind of an overview of how this this thing kind of went with the two of them agreeing with each other and everything i thought it was pointless but play that because it's a mosaic

1:02:40 things that we could provide the Syrian National Army, support of the Syrian National Council, and there are ways to get weapons into Syria. It is time we gave them the wherewithal to fight back and stop the slaughter. What an a-hole! I mean, what do you even know who these people are? Except that they're Al-Qaeda and they're terrorists. Yeah, let's just arm some terrorists. Good idea there, McCain. This guy. I got no respect for him. He's an embarrassment to the uniform. He's terrible. It's just it's embarrassing that we ran him for president. Yeah well we didn't run him.

1:03:25 So all this rhetoric is being and I think there's something I think there might be a CIA Armed Forces thing going on here. Well, there's some CIA thing going on because Pooper I get back to my point. Yeah Pooper Pooper had on Bob. What's his name? CIA guys in the CIA was a nerd and Fran our buddy Fran Townsend who's the CIA outside person so we have two CIA people. Uh-huh with poop it's like what how about a professor or or somebody somebody was in the field no cia person number one and cia person number two and i do have the bob and fran chip and dale clip here which is kind of the way this is just kind of an overview of how this this thing kind of went with the two of them agreeing with each other and everything i thought it was pointless but play that because it's a mosaic

1:04:12 In this region, Fran, how does this compare to what we've seen over the last decade or so? Well, as Bob rightly says, this is now, the powder keg's ignited. Well, Fran's absolutely right. As Bob rightly says. Well, Fran's absolutely right. As Bob rightly says. Bob rightly says. Bob rightly says. Hey, you spent some time editing. So, she also stammers a lot when she gets caught with something where she knows she has to lie. Fran is kind of hot, right? Yeah, she's pretty. She's a pretty woman. But she looks, for some reason, she just looks CIA. She doesn't look like a hot, pretty woman. I like my CIA agents kind of hot.

1:04:53 So we have a bunch of clips from this and there's the journalism thing again comes up Fran Townsend on safe passage of journalists Which I think we debunked in the last show. It's bullcrap There's a lot of journalists over there, and they are reporting But if they say anything if they don't say the right thing for one if they say something about the Syrians being a bunch of pricks Then they're roused and thrown out of the country if they give it the other kind of report and they no one picks it up So no they get killed That's what happens when a real journalist with an eyepatch is about to say, hey, you know, they're blowing up pipelines and this seems to be about two things. The gas that is found in the Leviathan field and probably Syria's role in transporting heroin. Then you get killed. Play this. I don't know that you can move Russia other than to shame them by these horrific videos we see that are where Damon's gotten at. The other thing we need to have the international community push for is the safe passage of journalists.

1:05:51 Sorry was that the wrong background they got a bunch of Yeah, stuff going on safe passage. Yeah to give you the vibe you got that's good That's good television, and she also when she says horrific videos They show a bunch of them. They I think what they meant by horrific is these are the worst videos Yeah, the quality is bad horrible like it's not like violence just a horrible quality over exposed Yeah, it's just bad just bad just bad work. Oh Yeah, anyway, yeah, it ain't no wag the dog let her finish that well. That was the end of that clip It was yeah, I have the other one I have is CIA messenger Is that the one you want to put that one in all right? But the you know Anderson what I'm worried about is this is really starting to spin out of control you guys gay Yeah, this is the guy I can hear it in three seconds. He's like Anderson

1:06:39 Did you hear that yeah, I didn't oh my gaydar went off. He's coming on to Anderson and when you're What but let's the one thing I want to mention is this is the other CIA person and to me This was the CIA messenger telling the public what we need to know It's like a backgrounder, and I thought it was okay the backgrounder for the group I but the you know anderson what i'm worried about is this is really starting to spin out of control you've got two iranian ships in part two s you have the rain is saying they're going to intervene uh... you've got problems upon the turkish border and it is this going to spread we have to do something in terms of the level of data this fits perfectly with my clip so that's the cia angle we gotta do something free passage now because the cia

1:07:27 And I'm thinking, John, I'm thinking this might also have to do with drugs. Syria is a big drug trafficking country. Here's the other side. Very interesting. Fareed Zakaria. A guy I certainly don't like, I don't think you like him either. Nope. He has a very interesting, he's very anti-bombing Iran. He's also an anti, he's essentially anti-American. His messages are anti-constitutional, anti-liberty, anti-everything that a libertarian would like. But he also seems to be anti-bombing Iran, interestingly enough. And he has General Dempsey on, who is the chief of the, the Joint Chief of Staffs. He's the big kahuna.

1:08:06 and it's talking about Iran, and he says, no, we should not do this at all. What would you say to those who argue that the United States should arm the opposition movement in Syria? I think it's premature to take a decision to arm the opposition movement in Syria because... Listen very closely to his words, because he's telling us what's going on without saying it. Because I would challenge anyone to clearly identify for me the opposition movement in Syria at this point. And let me broaden the conversation a bit. Syria is an arena right now for all of the various interests to play out. And what I mean by that is you've got great power involvement. Turkey clearly has an interest. Clearly. Why does Turkey have an interest? Because of the gas field. Russia. Oh, Russia. Why? Because it's competition to their gas. Iran has an interest.

1:09:05 And what we see playing out is that not just those countries, in fact potentially not all of them in any case, but we see the various groups who might think that the issue is a Sunni-Shia competition for regional control. You mean the Iranians on the one hand and the Saudis perhaps on the other? I do. The Saudis on the other hand, you saw there's indications that Al Qaeda is involved and that they're interested in supporting the opposition. There's a number of players

1:09:42 all of whom are trying to reinforce their particular side of this issue. And until we're a lot clearer about who they are and what they are, I think it would be premature to talk about arming them. So for the chief of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to basically go contrary to his boss's message, i.e. the president, who was saying, They had no options off the table. Well, send a clear message, we're gonna kick their ass, bomb them. I think that this is a continuation of the CIA war.

1:10:18 against other factions of our armed forces CIA DIA there you go And with the president being another character in this play I know I picked up on something screwy that gingrich said in the debates to that kind of applies to this and play play Iranian practicing closing the Straits of Hormuz The Iranians have been practicing closing the Straits of Hormuz which has one out of every five barrels of oil in the world going through it Yeah, to Asia. When was this? When were they practicing closing it? Alright, let's close it for a minute and see what happens. What were they practicing? We were the ones that were practicing it. You need a whistle. You need to blow the whistle and get ready for practice everybody. You have a whistle, not the slide whistle, you need like a shrill whistle. Everybody in the pool whistle. Yeah, that's the one. I gotta get one of those. You're right, that's perfect. Everybody in the pool! It's time to practice closing the Straits of Hormuz!

1:11:16 I can't believe you don't have a put everybody in the pool whistle. I Believe me. I'll have one for Sunday. Oh my goodness. That's exactly it as this whole thing is just they're insane They're insane. They're just all insane. I heard the funniest thing just this clip has been going around now You know I'm gonna save that for a bit later. It's the C-Span clip about the underwear bomber. You probably didn't see that It's like the no it's lengthy no I was watching this guy oh little Timmy. Yeah, Timmy's on there. He's getting more aggressive and he's chewing, he's chewing out these guys. He's going to bail, right? He's out. He's already announced he's bailing. Everyone wants to get out because they know Obama and particularly that that arse, that Iranian arse, Jared, they're going down. Well, he's definitely

1:12:12 Having more fun when he gives his testimony because I don't have too many clips of this buddy over and over again Somebody to ask him a question and he'd and he'd still Chris he stalls he's a he's like all the rest of these guys they filibuster and because they know there's a limited amount of time and So his main thing is he'll the guy asked a question look at the gal go Really? You're gonna waste your time on that question? Really? Really? Well, he's stalling. He's stalling. Yeah, I want you to answer the question. He says, okay, if you want to waste your time on that question, then you'll start filibustering. Wow. This is Geithner on killing the economy? Actually, this is the one, this is the key.

1:12:51 Geithner's threat which a guy who's good at this I think he still sounds like a little kid who talks like this He's always trying to make stuff up to you because I didn't knock over the thing. You know I don't have the beaver. I don't have the clip Geithner's threat. Well. That is the threat killing the economy so far well It depends on the circumstances you're right to point out the UK experience, but you know we're not in the position the UK is nor nor anything like the rest of Europe in this context in the sense that We enjoy still, and you can see it in the prices of US financial assets, enormous confidence around the world that this country, this Congress, this city, this government will ultimately find a way to put in place a more substantial set of long-term fiscal reforms. And so there's confidence out there in markets that ultimately

1:13:43 Congress is going to come together and do the right thing soon enough in this context and that's why we're able to borrow at relatively low rates and you see that confidence in U.S. financial markets. If we were to, in the face of being able to borrow at 2% for 10-year money, if we were to now decide we're going to try and turn this deficit swollen by the crisis, swollen by the Bush economic policies and try to reduce that to balance in two years or three years, you would kill this economy. You would kill this economy and you'd dramatically set back the long-term cause of deficit reduction because you'd swell the long-term deficits by inducing another crisis. That's not what the Ryan budget proposes, I would point out, although there are some people who have suggested we need to cut faster now. What did he just say? He said that we can't do... Everybody in the pool! Sorry.

1:14:34 You need a real one. This guy's a little more shrill. This is bad enough. Sounds more like some sort of attack of a bunch of the Triffids. All right, so what did Timmy say? He said that we can't all these plans to like start to Draw down the deficit and all this preoccupation with this will will kill the economy is what he says He says we're right now We're on thin ice and we but we're still top in the world and we can stay there as everything collapses around us If we're careful not to do anything stupid that you Republicans are wanting to do Okay, essentially is what he's saying

1:15:14 But he talks like this little kid and just like you don't understand why he's even working in this place. I'm telling you he talks like Timmy from South Park. I want to stick with Leviathan just for a second. News coming out and just trying to fit everything into the pipeline story. Moscow and Paris may launch a project to build new gas pipelines from Russia to Europe with growing demand by the EU states. There's the competition. Popping up its head. So this is a News announcement from Monday parties have come to agreement It isn't a set necessary to build new direct gas transport capacities from Russia to Europe so I guess what they're thinking there is piping the gas through Syria and Then up and out and then through the existing lines I mean we have so many Russian pipelines to Europe going through Turkey, but that is definitely the competition to this news

1:16:17 where Israel says, and this is what you had essentially, they're going to build the base, the Cypriot based aerodrome for the Israelis to protect their interest in the gas. Well there's also a couple of articles and I think why Syria is getting so much attention is that the Leviathan thing goes, it appears to be more vertical than they thought at first so it actually goes into the area next to Lebanon which is Syria's proxy, their buddies, their buddies and maybe even goes to the Syria area which now Syria and Lebanon become a energy producing state which is why we would always get involved. We always get, if you haven't noticed, we point this out on the show a million times.

1:17:07 That if there's a you know way that's why you can do Google searches on just something going on you type in the whatever it is going on pipeline or Pipeline and you got boom there it is and the explanation falls right in your lap now. I'm looking at the Russian pipelines and none of them go anywhere near Syria there is one they go up and they're through the Balkans through Turkey and Yeah, they go through some will go through Turkey some go create straight across to the Ukraine You know what? I'd really like I'd love Ukraine seems to be the main and then there's this one that through Estonia, which is interesting goes to Berlin I've been searching for a Google Earth KML file an overlay of pipelines and I just can't seem to find it. No, no, it's there Well, someone will find it I mean it's it that would be beautiful to have just all the pipelines and then tell me what it is and

1:18:00 And he could overlay that with the explosions. Right. And the so-called earthquakes and all that groovy stuff. The one that's interesting is the, I can see where the Russians are like, They have this thing called the Stockman shtokman gas field. Yes. Which is a huge gas field. They want to run a pipeline out from that. Yeah, it's an important one. Yeah, it's a biggie. It's an important one. Yeah. But you know, there's this great article. It's a blog post from 2002. And I want everyone to look at that in the show notes after the show.

1:18:44 I'll actually tell you what is the title of it. It's called the New US British Oil Imperialism and it's from a website oilcompanies.net written by Norman D. Livergood and it takes you back to 1911 and it's basically the days of standard oil, shell, British petroleum and how all the colonies... The Seven Sisters. I'm not familiar with that. Yeah, it's a big seven oil companies around the world. Well, so it takes you all the way back explains how the Second World War was also all about oil and

1:19:31 How Hitler was involved look at it, but it's it's it's an easy read and then it takes you up to basically 1979 where we had the overthrow of the Shah of Iran and from that you know we got British Petroleum BP Amoco and it really it really gives you a good overview of how every single war is essentially about protecting either the Fuel Depot the transport lines or the pipelines of oil and now gas. It's what it's always been about It's just it's just you know, this is that's it. It's always been about that and I think it's too bad I mean this blog I guess stopped in 2002 and it has maps beautiful maps

1:20:17 shows the existing and potential oil and gas export routes from the Caspian Sea and all that is now in place with the North Stream and the South Stream and the Blue Stream and all these different pipelines. And it's just so eye-opening because you can fit this theory, you know, Afghanistan, UNICAL, and we know Karzai was a UNICAL official. You know, that's all been about a pipeline. The Pakistan-Afghani border is about protecting the pipeline. This is why the Pakistanis aren't doing anything. It's because they need the pipeline. It's for them. And when you start to realize this, I have to say,

1:20:56 It's like a shot of Xanax, man. You just like, ah. Now you feel good about it, don't you? You just feel like, okay, now at least I understand, you know, not that you can do anything about it, but at least you get it. And then, you know, then all these, because when you're being lied to, I think your psyche, you know, gets it. Your psyche is like, yeah, it causes a problem with the brain. It does. I think we pointed this out in the newsletter, you know, it's not, it's unhealthy. I mean, we could be just, blown smoke, but it's unhealthy it seems to me to be bamboozled, befuddled, duped into believing things that aren't true when some part of your system doesn't, it says this doesn't make any sense and you start getting sick. You do, brain sick.

1:21:42 So which brings me to the pharmaceutical industry with some interesting fun little clips because I've been paying attention You know I've been waiting I've just been waiting to see what the pharmaceutical industry is going to do on the heels of Whitney Houston So far. I have not been correct in my assumption although the legislation has now been introduced into the house by Douchebag bono Mac and of course we have Feinstein, and they're going to try and shut down generic medicines that is not in play yet and You know, you and I were both kind of agreeing like, wow man, they're really hitting the pharmaceutical industry hard with the Xanax thing, and that's Pfizer, hitting them real hard about Whitney Houston. And so now Dr. Drew, Sanjay Gupta, and a new player who I will introduce onto the scene are all out there, and this is fantastic.

1:22:33 They are all out there shilling drugs against addiction to drugs. You can't make this stuff up. Here is Sanjay Gupta and he's about to promote a brand new drug on CNN. Addiction is a brain disease, not a failure of willpower. There are medicines that actually short-circuit addiction. So why aren't they even used more? We're going in-depth, Dr. Well, because they haven't been promoted yet. First we've got to get people hooked. Sanjay Gupta is joining us with what we are calling cold turkey in a pill. And I honestly... Come on John, it's great marketing. Cold turkey in a pill. I have actually never heard of this before. It's interesting and this is a bit of a cultural shift in terms of how we approach addiction. If you call it a brain disease like I think most people agree it should be called. The science is in. It's a brain addiction. You're sick son, you're sick. You got a problem, you're sick. You're sick. It's evil, you're sick. You need a pill because you're sick on pills.

1:23:31 then it does put other options on the table. The idea of treating an addiction to pills with another pill doesn't sit well with everybody, which is why it's been tested for so long. Which is why I'm here to promote it. It doesn't work for everybody, but I want you to listen, Suzanne, to Walter Kent's story specifically and what it did for him. So now they go into this package about a guy who is an alcoholic and I'll just play a little bit of the package because it's funny. And he's crazy and this is such a good commercial because they conduct the interview in a bar. This is the last place you'd expect to find a recovering alcoholic. One of my all favorite watering holes. But this is where Walter Kent hangs out. A bar called Goober's. Walter is a giant of a man.

1:24:14 But for most of his life he couldn't find the strength to put down that bottle. I was the type of person that the only time I drank was when I was alone or with somebody. Other than that there was never a problem. He tried rehab and AA. Nothing worked. Nothing seemed to get rid of that urge. I couldn't get rid of the craving. But then in 2000 he tried again. An experimental program at Brown University. This time he got counseling once a week and a daily pill, a medicine called naltrexone. Naltrexone! Okay. So the package continues and the guy's like, it's fantastic, my life has changed, you know, I was an alcoholic, I tried everything. Naltrexone was in one of our shows recently, what was it we were referring it to? What was the deal? Or naltrexone. I don't recall that being in one of our shows. Yeah.

1:25:02 I do. Yeah, well, you look that up. Somebody mentioned it somewhere. Well, let me let me bring you part two because just to show you how this has happened and all of this is as stemmed from Whitney Houston. All this is so they picked up the addiction meme and they're just running with it. So you've got on the one hand the legislative part that has not emerged yet. And now it's like you hooked on our pills. We got a pill for that. and he's gonna wrap up the story with telling you how great this pill is and it's gonna go right into the promotion for another pill! And I still can't believe he's in a bar. That's amazing. We did the interview in a bar to sort of illustrate that point. I mean, he could not step foot in a bar before. It was just too much temptation. Now he has no problem.

1:25:42 Really quickly, I think it's important to point out this isn't for everybody I mean this these people were people who for nothing else worked and it's about 17% more effective than what else is out there, but for someone like what? There's more out there You're not even doing competitive study because you're only promoting this you're only being paid to shill this pill you douche. It made a big difference It tamps down the sense of euphoria you get from having a drink so you don't have the cravings for getting that euphoria over and over again. So it's a mind-altering drug? Well, now I remember where this is from. It was actually something that I was working on but we didn't talk about. We didn't discuss it. All right. Which is Naltrexone and Topamax are these two pills. And Topamax is mentioned in this report on CNN on their website. Which they're promoting, yes. And there's a big debate going on. Both of these are used off-label.

1:26:38 combination to create a third drug which they're trying to legalize as this fabulous and unbelievable weight loss pill. Oh wait a minute listen to this, oh this is great! The concern is it could tamp down pleasures that you get from other things as well so some people just can't tolerate that side effect. Could you actually have a pill that works for other prescription drugs if you're somebody who's addicted to prescript? This is absolutely is the answer. That's what a lot of researchers are sort of working. The same sort of concept again tamping down the sense of well-being after someone has opiates or pain pills for example. There's a medication called Suboxone. It's a little bit different in that people have to stay on it there for really their entire lives.

1:27:19 whereas with naltrexone he was on it for about four months. But you know some of these things are in early clinical trials and the population of people that are being studied are people who have failed everything else nothing has worked so now they're going to this. They're adding counseling in as well so it's not the pills alone but you can see for Walter it made it made a huge difference. Oh crap oh crap! What? How did that happen? Oh crap. What? Well, I think because for some reason it didn't get the last bit of the report at the end of this report she actually says we'll be right back with some great news about a diet pill which you just mentioned. Yeah, that's the diet pill. There's something up with this. Hold on, hold on. I can't, oh this is really pissing me off. I've got to find this. Oh man, can't believe that. Here, maybe it's at the end of this one. Hold on. Oh, you got to hear that because it may be the actual, what's the name of the pill?

1:28:10 Topamax and Naltrexone are the two. You take them in combination, it creates a third drug in the system. Hold on, here's, I think this might have her tag. For Walter, it made a huge difference. All right, Sanjay, thanks. Stick around because we're going to ask about another medical story in the news today. That is a new diet drug that could be approved soon. It is called Q-Nexa. We're going to talk about that at the top of the hour. Is that what it is? Q-Nexa? Yes, Q-Nexa is the combination of these other pills. So they literally go from the commercial of one drug to the commercial of the combination of the next drug that does diet. I mean, this is completely paid programming. Yeah, I would say. Now, if you can't sell it with Sanjay Gupta, if you can't sell it with Dr. Drew, there's always one go-to guy in the media. If you want the crazy, wacky, kooky guy to pause close, close,

1:29:03 Come on, take another guess. He used to be a celebrity, used to be on television when he was a kid. Complete waste of space. Messed up his life. Go on go. I know who you're talking about that redheaded. Yes, Danny Bonaduce Bring in Bonaduce. Don't don't do anything that will stop you from if you think you can help yourself Please do I am NOT an expert on any of these things. I know it works for me Would you like to know how I got 13 months not drinking? Would you like to know how he got 13 months non drinking John? Are you interested? No, no tough luck cuz we're shoving it in your face

1:29:42 Now he takes out a pill bottle, he pops a pill and he drinks some water. It's called an abuse. It's a pill. It turns alcohol into poison. Hey! It's called an abuse. It turns alcohol into poison. If that isn't crazy enough... So... There you go. Danny. If I make a drink right now, I'll die. Well, what is that? What, I mean, so are you telling me that there needs to be that kind of medical intervention? Look it up on the internet. This is a commercial. Look it up on the internet. It turns alcohol into formaldehyde. Really? I looked it up on the internet. Ant abuse does not turn alcohol into formaldehyde. Formaldehyde. What a dick.

1:30:34 And he keeps saying it, the whole report, Antabuse, Antabuse, Antabuse. What station? What is this on? CNN! CNN should be ashamed of themselves. But they're just taking, they're raking in the dough. Are you kidding me? I'd be here like, you know how I kicked weed, man? I kicked weed, I took a pill and it turned weed into like, uh, into like a poison. And so if I took a hit of weed, then I'd die. Yeah, turn it into arsenic. Arsenic, man. Like Monsanto crap. So I couldn't take that anymore, man. The pills are great. I'm Danny Bottaducci. That's right. Remember me from the Partridge family? Buy it now. Are you a loser?

1:31:11 He says one time, he says, I woke up one day in a jail cell, handcuffed to a tranny with blood all over me. I didn't know whose blood it was, but I took this pill. No more trannies. So this cold turkey and a pill is bull crap. Let me read you this from the adverse effects. Naltrexone should not be started prior to several, typically seven to ten days of abstinence from opioids. In other words, you have to go cold turkey. You gotta go cold turkey to go cold turkey. Because this is due to the risk of acute opioid withdrawal if Naltrexone is taken

1:31:48 as naltrexone will replace most opioids from their receptors. In other words, it'll just not, you know, ruin you. Yeah, well, you can't just go cold turkey. It's very dangerous actually to go super cold turkey. Some physicians use a naloxone challenge to determine whether an individual has any opioids remaining. Yeah, you can't, you have to already beat cold turkey, then you, well you got, I guess, well you got the shakes and you feel like shooting everybody. You take this pill and it knocks you back to normal. So that's bull crap to where this is all a setup for this diet drug. This is gonna be the biggest diet drug in the history of the pharmaceutical industry, by the way. Ooh, let's put that one in the... That's my prediction. Yeah, let's put that one in the book of knowledge. What is it called again? Let's write that down. She mentioned what the name was. It's something with a C.

1:32:34 I never knew I already knew about this combination. I didn't know what the name of the of the Approved drug is gonna be I'll get it again. It's important. Let's get this again. Yeah, let's get it. Yeah, let me just load it up Just amazing though how? blatantly and by the way good catch but just how brazenly they go from these this great pill and it's fantastic 17% better than the competitor right into okay and we've got some fantastic news coming up about this great diet pill which happens to be the derivative of the pill we just talked about and that to me John is just you know it just blows me away. Somebody's whoever's putting the packages together is corrupt. No well no these aren't packages

1:33:18 This is coming through the department known as traffic. You know, the ones that do the sales. Here it is. But you can see for Walter it made a huge difference. Alright Sanjay, thanks. Stick around because we're going to ask about another medical story in the news today. That is a new diet drug that could be approved soon. It is called Q-nexa. Q-nexa. Chewbacca. Q-nexa. What a name. Look it up man and send me the link. Yeah I will. Q-nexa. Q-Nexa. Good job! I wouldn't have caught that one. That was good. Oh, it's Q-Nexa spelled funny. It's Q-N-E-X-A. FDA advisors, this is just five hours ago, endorse weight loss drug Q-Nexa. They endorse it, so it's good to go. It's gonna be good to go. And they got a picture in the Los Angeles Times of some big fat gut. The Los Angeles Times, everyone's in on it. How come we can't... I mean... Well, you know why? Here it is.

1:34:19 Yes, topiramate and meanwhile they're trying to make vitamin C illegal Let's do away with all the real stuff that'll actually cure you let's take that off the shelf. Oh, that's dangerous can't have any The combination is topiramate and Phenermine which is I'm at that I get that from the market which is not then there's my understanding of the combination, but I get emails for that constantly interesting I think it's the, I really think it's the other drug because the Phentermine is not a safe product. Anyway. Well, so that's how the, that's how the news media makes their money. This kind of bull crap is to me, I have another clip. This kind of bull crap that comes off of these networks is getting worse. I was watching, one of the worst shows on is this thing called The Five. Wait a minute, I have to say,

1:35:17 I like looking at the legs. Yeah, they put the legs on the outside so you get to look at legs constantly. Isn't Dana Perino on that? When Gilfoyle is on, she's got the best legs in the business. Boy, isn't Dana Perino on that? Yeah, but she's always sitting over there on the other side because she's too short to show off her legs. But I will say, I will say, I think she's smoking. She's very pretty. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. Remember when she showed up with that black eye? When she was still press secretary for Bush? No, I don't remember her with a black eye. Yeah, she showed up with a black eye. Because, you know, she'd done something wrong. Bush was the clobber. Yeah, she did something wrong and they beat her up. She's smoking. I would put her on the bucket list, actually.

1:35:58 So this is a piece of information that I just rolled my eyes over because they throw this crap out. They're talking about the Pipelines and the oil prices and so play the fact the five and the BS Fact the five that's a good title for a book that is Can you get on this gas price thing? You're an expert on this, I understand that. Oh, I saw this actually. But the fact is that what's going on in Iran, over which we have very little control, what's going on in Syria, which we should talk about more frankly, is causing the price of gas to go up. No, why would it? No, no, no. Why would it? Well, that is why it doesn't make the price... They got war ships from Iran docking Syria. Yeah, and it didn't make natural gas prices go up. We use a lot of natural gas for our energy here too. Oh yeah, and we have a lot of crude oil too.

1:36:46 That's the other thing. I love that. But it's no secret also that the president has been openly hostile to fossil fuels. His tax plan released recently goes after oil companies. And when you go after oil companies and you try and take away their tax breaks, that just gets passed along to the consumer. It's a fact! Well, that's not the clip I wanted. Okay, good. Do I get to hear Dana Perino this time? She was actually in there in the first part of that. Iranian practice, idiots on the five. Idiots, that's the one. How could we have missed that cue? I had a business of distributing gasoline, buying gasoline, bringing it in from overseas, selling it.

1:37:27 Do you know that there are reformulated gas blends, there are oxygenated blends, detergent regulations, specific vapor pressure blends, summer blends, winter blends, summer east coast blends, west coast blends, winter blends. Is this about Starbucks? I have a way, I want to do it on here because I want you to attribute this to me. I didn't know you actually did one. I'll take the blame. I thought you were a speculator. No, no, I did both. I have a distribution. This is the guy with the fat head, isn't it? Yeah, and he's talking about the real fat head. That's the Democrat guy. But this guy's got, this is the younger guy with the fat head and he's apparently owned an oil distribution business before he became a pundit. I don't know.

1:38:07 Gasoline will drop by a dollar, a dollar per gallon with one signature by Obama. All he has to do is say one blend gas drops. You know there's one blend for the whole country, doesn't matter if you're in Chicago, West Coast, East Coast, all year round. Give it a shot, give it a shot, it can't hurt. The environmentalists would just have to put, you know, Take a deep breath and say for now it's more important to get the guest places down. Actually there's something to be said about that because they do have a blend. Remember when they had the blend in the upper Midwest North and they had to mix in a certain stuff and it turned out to be, it didn't work. MTVE, storage issues, location, transportation issues. And they backed off of that and things seemed to work alright. Alright, explain this one to me.

1:38:46 This is the biggest crock of crap I can imagine. Every petroleum engineer and chemist has got to be rolling his eyes. You have to have these different blends. It's the way it works. You can't have the same gasoline in Reno that you have in the San Francisco Bay Area. Your car won't start. because of the atmospheric pressures and the different temperatures depending on whether it's winter or summer. That's why you have a winter blend and a summer blend. If you don't put extra butane in the gas during the winter, your car will not start. This is all bull crap and they just made this up and this guy was supposed to be in the business? I don't believe that for a minute. Oh, interesting. Okay, so I know nothing about this. And you as a former chemical engineer is very interesting. And these blends, so for instance in... I was an analytical chemist. Big difference. You make me so horny when you say these things. Say it again. Analytical chemist. No, no, say I was. I was, man! I was an analytical chemist.

1:39:45 So you're telling me that in Texas where it can freeze in wintertime, that they actually give me a different blend of, even though I'm getting the 87 octane, which is all I can afford, it's still under four bucks here, that they blend that differently in wintertime? Yeah. Huh. I didn't know that. Or take a Bay Area gas and try to drive around Reno, your car's got no poop. And so you put some Reno gas in and you're driving around like crazy. It's very noticeable. So if I were to drive from Texas to Colorado and I can make it on one tank of gas, by the time I get up there I might run into trouble. I'd have to get some new blend really quickly.

1:40:38 Yeah, your car would not run correctly. I didn't know this. These blends are very different all over the place and that's why they... But he's saying, well you only have to store one blend instead of two. You still have to store the different... This is still bullshit even on that level because you still have to... You can't keep every octane, you know those three typical octane blends... Explain that to me for a second. Why... I mean, for what reason I've never gotten the high octane? Why should I? Does it really make a difference? On a car that requires high octane, yes. What car requires that? Well, my Lexus. 1991 yeah, it's old I know we have enough money no, but how come how come that requires the high octane? Well, that's because it's got a high-performance V8 engine that has a high compression rate. I have a Dodge Ram from 2002 probably uses regular

1:41:32 Yes, but it's got like 18 cylinders, it's a big 5900 engine. It still could be regular, it's probably regular. Whatever it says in the book you have to use. There's no book, it didn't come with a book! Look it up on the internet. If you're using low octane gas in an engine that requires 91 and you're using 87, you're going to get a lot of pre-ignition, you're going to lose, you're going to essentially lose gas mileage because the thing's gonna fire before the cylinders at the top of the head and it'll just blow up in there and it'll cause a lot of knocking. It could damage the engine. You could actually blow up your engine. Well, probably not blow it up, but you're not gonna help it much. And it's just really a disaster if you use the wrong octane in your engine. Now you can use high octane in a low octane engine. That makes no difference.

1:42:18 But if you have an engine that requires high octane fuel, you better use it. Well I might be doing it wrong. Well is the engine pinging when you're driving? What does that mean? Well if you don't know what that means then... Yeah I know what it means. Push down on the gas to accelerate, you hear a bunch of weird clicking sounds? No this thing sounds like a... It's free ignition. And that's for full octane fuel. I'm looking to see now if it says if I should use high octane or not. I have 2002 Dodge Ram. They're talking about the Hemi though. I don't think I have the Hemi engine. Maybe I do, I don't know. I only paid $5,000 for it. The Hemi would probably require high octane, I'm guessing. I don't know. Okay, well so... But it's like...

1:43:03 So anyway, so you have to have these different tanks for these different gasolines anyway, so the storage stuff is bullcrap This guy's full of it. That's what I'm saying and this show is filled with this kind of information And then he comes out with this nonsense and the guy the other guy comes in agrees with him He doesn't know what he's talking about either Now, I will say this, we on this show have every so often we say something that's wrong and people either catch us in the chat rooms and then we can usually correct ourselves on the fly. And yeah, you're going to be wrong on these shows. So I don't want to be too condemnatorial about this. But if you had legs like that, it would be OK.

1:43:39 The point is, is there's five people on this show, there's ten people behind the cameras, there's producers, there's executive producers, there's all kinds of people that can correct this crap. There's news editors, there's writers, there's prompter operators. They have a hundred people that can say, hey, this is totally wrong. We're the two of us. It's amazing we're so accurate. John C. Devorak's pet peeve of the day. I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh, yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah! On No Agenda! High octane, baby! In the morning! You know, I gotta tell you, when you go off on that, like, that chemical engineer stuff, and you bring in cars and engines,

1:44:24 Man, I would like hug you right now if you were near me. I would be like, I'm just- It's- It makes me just hot for you, baby. Hot! Smoking hot for you now, John. I would think that everyone would know this stuff. Well, guess what? This is very informative. And now I'm going to go find a book, see if I can find the book that goes along with my car. And then I'm going to be very sad if I have to put in high octane because that's like another 20 cents a gallon. It's expensive. Yeah, for real. Yeah, I was actually in San Francisco that octane, the high octane in Union Station over in the city where it's just always overpriced. Four dollars and 40 cents.

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1:58:56 With the amount of $1,000 or more, you are one of our true patrons, always there to help us out and to help us in our hour of need, and we appreciate your contribution in keeping us going. So hereby, we proudly pronounce thee Sir Frank Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable! Hookers and blow over here, my friend! Also, Ramp Boys and Chardonnay, if that's your thing, or just plain old booze and hot pants. Congratulations, welcome to the roundtable. Thank you. Your ring is on the way. Now I want to publicly thank Mimi. Your wife John she's taking over the the ring shipment Ring distribution center. I'm sorry the ring distribution center. Yes, that's that's what it's called the ring distribution center Great so the weirdest thing And I saved this for second half of the show even though it really it you know It's stuff that's in the house of Lords in the United Kingdom. I'm sure you may have seen this thing pop up Lord Blackheath

1:59:55 Who is, well I guess you'd call a backbencher. But he is in the House of Lords. And he stands up and he rolls out this crazy story. And it goes on for 11 minutes. And luckily he did something very smart. He drew his conclusions about this story in the first minute and a half. Thank goodness. Which I will play for you. And it is about the 15 trillion dollars. Have you heard this story, John? No, I'm on pins and needles. So this is from the House of Lords on February the 16th, I believe. And he stood up in front of his fellow lords. These are the muckety-mucks. And he started to tell the following story. My Lords, I've been engaged in this

2:00:43 pursuit of this issue for nearly two years now and I'm no further through to get into the truth. I think there are three possible conclusions which may come from it. I think there may have been a massive piece of money laundering committed by a major government which ought to know better and that this has effectively undermined the integrity of the British Bank, Royal Bank of Scotland in doing so. The second alternative is that a major American department has an agency which has gone rogue on it because it has been wound up and has created a structure out of which they are seeking to get, well, at least 50 billion euros as a payoff.

2:01:24 And the third possibility is that this is an extraordinarily elaborate fraud which has not been carried out, but which has been prepared in order to provide a threat to one government or more if they don't pay them off. So there are three possibilities and this all needs a very urgent review. My Lords, it starts in April and May of 2009 with the alleged transfer to the United Kingdom, to the HSBC, of a sum of 50 trillion dollars and seven days later, ping, in comes another 50 trillion dollars to the HSBC and then three weeks later another 50 trillion dollars, total of 5 trillion dollars in each case, sorry. Total of 15 trillion dollars is alleged to have been passed into the hands of HSBC for onward transit to the Royal Bank of Scotland

2:02:20 And we need to look to where this came from, what the history of this money is. And I've been trying to sort out the sequence by which this money has been created and where it's come from for a long time. What? I know. He messes up the numbers. But so essentially he has, and he has documents signed by Paulson, signed by Geithner, that there were three tranches of five trillion dollars that went received by senior executives at HSBC and then again received by senior executives at the Royal Bank of Scotland and apparently it came from a Riyadi account from an account from a guy named Riyadi, I'm sorry, who ties into all kinds of crazy things but... So this guy's just not clinically insane?

2:03:10 Well, he has all these documents and he says we can easily... What lord is this? Do we have his name? Blackheath. Lord Blackheath. Blackheath? Blackheath. Blackheath. Blackheath. Let me look him up on the book of knowledge. Yeah, it's a very, very weird story. But the thing that's so weird about this is it comes at the same time as we have all these trillions of dollars in bonds that, you know, they're fake bonds. But the way it sounds to me, and this traces back to another crazy story about the Wanta Fund. Are you familiar with the Wanta Fund? No, but I'm looking at apparently Lord James Blackheath

2:03:55 in 1 January 11, 2010 gave a speech on Foundation X. It's the same guy. He said that there was a... Everybody that's showing the audience are all laughing at him. Oh yeah, because he's crazy. Of course, he's nuts. I've learned, John, I've learned that the crazier the guy, you gotta be careful. Because these guys can be A, incredibly right, Look at Albert Einstein. Alright, just because he looks crazy and he, you know, that's doesn't look crazy. That's the he just seems like a, it looks like a banker. Well, but he, he's, he acts disheveled. Let's put it that way. He comes across as disheveled. He looks fine, but okay. No, if you look at the whole clip, he's, but he's, he's trying to explain something. And so he says, look, either this was a,

2:04:44 Think at the bottom line conclusion is somewhere someone made up some money because he's basically saying this could be fake money and of course It's not like a suitcase showed up with 15 trillion dollars. You know printed bills. This is you know this This is just electronic. Yeah, it's electronic stuff and what he's saying is this is Bogative and it's it's helped prop up the entire dollar I think that's what he's trying to say from this made-up money and But it goes back to another, and this has always been written off as a conspiracy theory, the Wanta Fund, W-A-N-T-A, which is about Ambassador Lee Wanta. And the story behind that, which supposedly ties into this, I'm not quite sure how, it's just so unbelievable that even if you could prove it, people say, ah, it's crazy, get out of here, you kook.

2:05:38 The Wanta Fund was apparently set up by Ronald Reagan with the Chinese. Oh yeah, we talked about this on the show before. Yeah, let me just summarize in brief. And it was set up to do currency trading to bankrupt or basically to kill the ruble. And the idea was that the profits, which apparently were $5 trillion at the time, so easily this could be the want to fund, it could be $15 trillion by now, that the profits were supposed to go back to the American people, back into the coffers of the Treasury, and boy, that would help right now. I mean, we could use a $5 trillion in 1990 dollars, we could use that, that would be handy.

2:06:20 And then the story twists and turns and says that basically Hillary Clinton went and stole it with her children's defense fund. So, you know, there's so many twists and turns to this and there's so, so many stories and there's podcasts and there's just tons of people talking about it that I mean, this is worse than 9-11. You know, you can't, you can never get to the bottom of it. I don't think, I mean, you'd have to have someone pretty serious Come to the forefront and it seems like Lord Blackheath is trying to communicate that something really bad has gone wrong and he's probably correct in his second assumption that a an agency of the United States which would be the Treasury has gone rogue.

2:07:04 And that people are just stealing this money and the bankers are passing it around. They took this money and of course they made trillions, billions if not trillions in profits by using it. But it was funneled through HSBC and the Bank of Scotland. And this would be traceable if someone opened an investigation which is what he's calling for. Well I think it's probably also what Ron Paul wants to see. So I'm looking at an article from November 2010 in The Guardian. And I'll just read you the first graph regarding this guy, Blackheath. This is from his other speech when he's talking about Foundation X. Yeah, which was about a trillion dollars, I think, at the time he was talking about that. Well, it seemed to be more like 17 billion, but it's quite the most extraordinary speech I think I've ever come across, that there's the writer, come across. It was given by Lord James of Blackheath, a respected industrialist and former senior advisor to the Conservative Party. So he's not a kook. So he's not a kook.

2:08:04 Alright, so he's not a kook. Well, maybe he lost his mind. I don't know. This is a good one. Now what are we going to do about it? Well, so everything I'm reading is saying that these are the Wanta funds and they were supposed to go back to the American people but instead of coming back to the American people and this was, you can consult the book of knowledge on Ameritrust Corporation and this guy Lee Wanta was the trustee And this also all ties back into Mark Rich. Which always ties back to the Clintons. It always ties back to the Clintons. And that would make sense. You look at the presidential library. Someone's got some dough. This is Switzerland. That's one of the reasons we know that.

2:08:57 You know, they're freaked out about somebody investigating the Clinton library. Where'd all the money come from? It's got an endowment and Clinton's got to... He's got, you know, God knows how much money. I mean, where did, you know, this wasn't from good investments. You know, I said on the last show that Bill Clinton probably had a shot at becoming the president of the World Bank. I mean, let's just say Bill Clinton is the World Bank. He's got all the dough. So, you know, this is something that... I would think If I were a real news organization and a respected industrialist stepped up and said, hey, something weird going on here. I would think I'd put that on the news. You know, this is like... You can't put this stuff on the news because there's a bottomless pit of trying to explain it. It's essentially an enigma.

2:09:56 and the directors of these news stations just won't allow it. Now, it's not in the New York Times, and everything always has to be confirmed by the New York Times is really the, you know, if it's not in the New York Times. Then it's not real, then it didn't happen. It's not real, you can't do it. It shows up in the New York Times, even when it does, you can't necessarily do it, because it might be, you know, something that's not of general interest. So I'll tell you what we do get on the news here, instead of this. This is another very carefully crafted story, I have to say, to make you very afraid of Muslims shouting Allah is great. Because of course, if you were pissed off on an airplane and you're angry and you're perturbed, in America we drop F-bombs and we call people a-holes. And I think some Muslims just say,

2:10:51 Allah is great. Screw you guys. Allah is great. But of course that now is being turned into a terrorist action, particularly when done on an airplane. So you hear the story and as we get into the story, it's just like a guy who was really pissed off about some stupid stuff and he shouldn't have done that, but the way it's brought to you is insane. By the way, the video is not of passengers grabbing this guy. The video is not of the guy yelling Allah is great. The video is when they're on the ground and federal agents are taking him off the plane. Apparently no one thought to videotape while it was actually happening. Jeff McShann just talked to people getting off the flight at Bush Airport. Jeff, what happened? This is what happened in Houston by the way. Now listen to what happened.

2:11:46 Well, at least indeed a Continental Flight 1118 took off from Portland tonight, headed to Houston. Had to be turned around about 20 minutes into the flight when the pilot decided to turn around and land back in Portland, all because of a belligerent passenger. Belligerent! Very important word, people. Belligerent. Remember, this is a legal term being used in the National Defense Authorization Act, belligerent. If you are belligerent, you can be named an enemy combatant. If you're an enemy combatant, you can get the hood put over your head and taken away in a black van. Now take a look at cell phone video taken by Mark Frostinger, one of the passengers on board. He and others tell us that two Middle Eastern men wanted to sit next to each other on the flight, and when it didn't work out, one of them became very upset. Well, this happens.

2:12:35 Right? You know, you can't sit next to each other. People get upset, it does happen, you know, it makes no difference, you can't help it, but people get upset. But then what did he do? He did something really crazy! He started screaming. He then lit an electric cigarette. He lit an electric cigarette! How do you light an electric... did he actually light it? Hey, this thing's just completely... It's not working! It's the stench of the plastic. This thing doesn't work. You don't light an electronic cigarette. You just suck on it and the little tip glows a little LED light in there. And then he's like... and it's not illegal. But he lit! He lit an electronic cigarette! But then... The American passengers, who are just so awesome, because we're gonna kick your ass! Flight attendants were clearly worried. They asked passengers for help.

2:13:22 And when the plane landed, the police came on board, took the suspect off in handcuffs, and escorted his friend off the plane. Here it comes, listen to our great passengers who saved the day from the guy who was trying to light an e-cigarette! He was screaming Allah is great, Allah is great, you know. It kind of worries you when all of that happens but believe me there were enough men to hold him down. Yeah, because we're Americans dammit! There were enough men to hold him down. He was so... What is scary when they say Allah is great because you know he's going to be terrified. Absolutely, every guy that was in my area was ready to go. We were ready to go, I was ready to go kick his ass. I was ready, my seatbelt was unbuckled, I was ready to go kick his ass. It was not even a thought, you could tell, buckles were off, people were...

2:14:10 Buckles were off. And she got the plastic handcuffs and ankle cuffs. I didn't know that they had handcuffs and ankle cuffs on board the airplane. I guess that's standard. Yeah, they did practice a little S&M in the cockpit once in a while. With that little bitty thing. Just a little bitty thing. She ran up there and all the men were all ready to go and help, you know, because they had their buckles unbuckled. They were ready to go kick some asses. We're Americans, goddammit. What airline was this? I don't know. I don't know.

2:14:51 I can find it if you're interested. I'm just wondering. Seems like something you'd want to know. He would be under the squirrel heading in the show notes. Here it is. Unruly passenger, belligerent. He was screaming, Allah is great. Allah is great. Maybe he really liked those cigarettes. Maybe those cigarettes are awesome. I should try that because there's something in there that may make you high. Continental. Of course, it's Houston. Continental. It's just, it's riling up the American public. Unnecessarily. Very unnecessarily. And it's sad. But it does show that we don't need TSA. No, no, this is true, but it was a little... Okay, now speaking of the TSA, all right, so here's the thing I wanted to play earlier. So you have this guy, McCarter, and he is the, I think, the editor of Homeland Security Magazine.

2:15:50 Now you would presume that the editor of Homeland Security Magazine really knows what he's talking about when it comes to Homeland Security, wouldn't you? I would, oh absolutely, he has to. And he's on C-SPAN, our favorite channel, on the call-in show, and people, I'm not going to say it anymore. The fact that you are not calling in to C-SPAN and handing out the truth and then following up with noagendashow.com is disappointing. Because they have open phone lines and they are so desperate for anyone to call in. And you get the weirdest calls in, they'll take anything. They will, and they're not screened. They're not screened. So this guy is in there, they're talking about Abdulmutallab, known as the underpants bomber.

2:16:37 Now we know that the underwear bomber at Schiphol Airport was ushered onto the airplane by two men in suits, even though he didn't have a passport. We know from testimony that we played from C-SPAN, that they were watching the guy and they allowed him to get on the airplane. Surely, John, you recall all this that we've discussed this on this very program. Yes, and we also, they also know that people were filming him on the plane with camcorders and watching his every move and then It was the weirdest story and then of course when they stopped the plane and brought him off they took all the passengers and moved them to a secure facility where they were they were they brings me to the thought that they wanted to kill him. Well kill everybody and say the plane got blow blowed up but something went amiss. Something went wrong but the idea... So they had to let the passengers live

2:17:30 And what happened after all of this, John? After this Christmas 2000... Was it 10? 2009? What happened? What happened after this? What immediately came into play? I don't know what. The naked body scanners! Oh yeah, right. We had the... Immediately. Our buddy Chertoff's company. They were the one he consulted. Chertoff & Associates. So here's this guy, and he's on C-SPAN because he's important. He's an authority on Homeland Security. He's the editor of this magazine. And he doesn't know anything about this, John. It's amazing. But the people who call in take this guy to school. Robert, independent caller in Austin, Texas. And by the way, this will prove to you that C-SPAN is the best channel on your television because this stuff, you can't write it. It's hilarious. And none of the people except for the host and the guy, McCarter, are actors. Everyone else is real. Good morning. Good morning.

2:18:26 It's amazing how much different information on this underwear bomber there is. This guy never had a visa. The gentleman was let on the plane, literally forced. They tried to keep him off the plane and two attorneys who have just submitted, you can go look on YouTube, said that he was let on the plane forcibly. He was denied access to that airplane. So he's talking about the testimony that was given at Muttalib's, in fact, Muttalib never got to testify because he pleaded guilty because of course he was a shill. So therefore there was no hearing and therefore we didn't hear the true story. But according to American law, you can enter in comments

2:19:10 If you were a witness, and I think it's Haskell, I think is the attorney's name, who was on the flight, we've played clips of this guy. He said, no, no, this was total bullcrap. This guy was let on the plane, he was escorted, he had handlers, and this was entered into the record, but you're not going to hear that anywhere, of course. But so here's one of the callers telling the truth. We're three times in some unnamed office in the US government, and you should look this up, sir. They let him on that plane, forcibly. He was not allowed to be on that plane, and somebody put him on that plane. Now why would a CIA agent or the unnamed agency want to get that guy on the plane?

2:19:47 Good question. I'm not familiar with the story of anybody attempting to stop him. My understanding is that the PETN that the underwear bomber was carrying was not detectable by the standard screening that he went through at Amsterdam. And what I've heard is that he raised no alarm. Okay, let's go to the caller. I wasn't there obviously, so I don't know. Alright, he wasn't there, so he doesn't know. Are you not the editor of the Homeland Security magazine, sir? All right, next caller. Chuck in Jacksonville, Florida, independent caller. Good morning. Go Chuck. Oh, sorry, I moved to that. Let's go on to Devin. We already hit Chuck. Devin, Republican in Derry, New Hampshire. Good morning, Devin. Good morning. Hi there. I heard your guest mention the underwear bomber a little while ago, and I just wanted to mention Attorney Kurt Haskell's testimony at the Muttalib trial last week. He was a witness to the event, and he says that

2:20:42 Muttalib didn't have a passport and wasn't going to be allowed onto that plane except he was escorted by two men in suits who claimed national security in order to get him onto the plane. And, uh... And now at this point, the producers are freaking out. Kurt Haskell, in his testimony, said all this. He wasn't allowed to actually be a witness to the trial because they got him to plead guilty. But I just feel that the real terrorists that we should be afraid of is our federal government and the TSA sticking their hands down our pants isn't gonna make things better. Cut him off! Cut him off! Cut him off! Don't appreciate that. We don't appreciate that.

2:21:26 We don't appreciate you talking about the TSA sticking our hands on our pants. She said that? She said that! We don't appreciate that. Which girl was this? The ugly one. We're cutting you off. Of course. Yeah, we're cut... with C-SPAN. We're cutting you off. Now, let's do... Last comment. One more, yes. Devin's bringing up this question that one of our earlier callers mentioned of an idea that Muttalib was somehow forced to go on the plane or was escorted by agents of some kind. Now, you are the expert on this. We invited you on C-SPAN. Please explain. I am unfamiliar with that story. What? I can't say it's true or I can't say it's false. know nothing about this. My understanding is that he was targeted for

2:22:08 for questioning by US Customs and Border Protection, which was operating passenger screening for overseas passengers like Abdulmutallab. And that they had planned to question him when he arrived in Detroit. Obviously if he was successful, you know, they wouldn't have been able to question him because he would have blown himself and 360 other people up. Yeah, which was the plan all along because you know what's going on. Let's do one more. Let's try a different approach. And another caller is right there. I love you, America. Recent Inspector General report. Here let's get the this guy's okay. Let's go to mark in Wayne, Michigan on our independent line. Good morning mark Good morning, C-SPAN. Good morning America. When I heard this I'm like yes This is a no agenda listener like good morning C-SPAN good morning America in the morning to you no agenda show.com is great. I'll is great I'm like I'm waiting for it this guy is perfect He doesn't do it, but this is the kind of guy that you should be who's listening to this show You should be calling in and doing this and also good morning. Mr. Carter McArthur. Good morning. I

2:23:05 Yes, I have a question about you claiming that you had no idea about that underwear bomber being helped onto that plane. I live on disability and I even knew about that. If you've seen the evidence that I have gathered about this individual and about the warehouses that were completely filled with all of these body scanners and no airports were buying them. So then this underwear bomber thing came along and every one of them got sold immediately. This is how they work. These elites that have hijacked the federal government are using it by use of the media, by lying to the people. So Mark, so Mark, you're saying that there's an... Cut him off! Cut him off! Cut this guy off!

2:23:52 Is this great television or what? You want to hear her rephrase the question? Yeah, let's hear that. Infrastructure in place that's geared towards making money off these crises. No! That can't be true! This is impossible to believe. So Mark is claiming that it's a generated crises in order to help businesses make money. John, can you believe that? That can't be true. This doesn't happen in our federal government. That couldn't, that wouldn't happen in a million years under any circumstances. Let's talk to the expert. This is a great question for the expert. Well I have to say, you know, after this program I'm kind of interested in talking to my colleague Tony Kimmery who...

2:24:33 I gotta talk to the editor. I gotta talk to- You set me up! Yeah, I'm gonna kick his ass for putting me on this damn show. Specializes in intelligence to see if he is aware of... you know, the stories that somebody might have helped the underwear bomber onto this plane. Because I certainly am unaware of them. As for the, there's lots of accusations of, you know, government being in bed with industry on various issues. I know as a matter of policy that the Bush administration... Oh, let's blame it on the Bushes. plan for the whole body imagers to be rolled out and that that was under consideration by the Obama administration before the underwear bombing incident. And then that's just sort of accelerated that plan and put it into public view. Which was the whole plan, thank you very much. He just he slipped.

2:25:22 He just told us the truth. Yeah, well it was a mistake on his part. Anyway, I love C-SPAN. I love it. In fact, I can't even afford this stupid cable. All I need is internet. Can I just get like C-SPAN and like the networks, like CNN and stuff? Can I just get that? Because, you know... What? I'm so sick and tired of cable. It's like give up your cable people. It's not worth it. So the other night... Why don't you get a Dish Network thing again? No, I... It's all... It's all... It's all too expensive. So the other night Mickey's like, let's rent a movie. Okay. Let's rent a movie. We have Time Warner Cable. So we rent the movie. Oh, okay. Whatever she selected, whatever it was. Yeah, what was it?

2:26:14 It was the Johnny Depp movie that Hunter S Thompson wrote. He produced that movie. Apparently it's a good movie. Okay, whatever. And it says... Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, I think. No, that's not it. Okay, whatever. Buffalo, where the buffalo roam. No, that's not it. It's a new movie. Oh, it's a new movie. Yeah. And so... Which I was looking forward to watch and then it says we cannot process your order call customer service and of course, you know Mickey I love her dearly, which is a chick's like it's not working and said what it says call customer service Well, why don't you call customer service and they have to go through this whole thing? What's the phone number associated with? What's the last four digits of your so stupid? Yeah, all this crap. This is happy-go-lucky guy Chuck. Thanks Chuck. I

2:27:06 Well it says this, well, looks like you have an outstanding payment of $500. Like $500? And I'm freaking out, like I think I turned off the internet, because it's a time-warner cable, it's a package. Like what is that? Well, looks like your credit card hasn't charged for three months or something. I'm like, what? And he says, oh no, I see what it is. Our billing cycle changed and then, you know, and it's basically their fault because they changed the way their billing cycle worked and the automatic payment doesn't work. Like, OK, well, then we pay for it now. I'll let you rape me. And he said, no, just so you know, this won't actually kick in for like three days. What are you talking about? He's right there on the phone. No, no, no. You get an approved authorization code right on the spot. No, no, no, no. Our system, he says, our system, you know, it just places it. It's not really approved until we get it really approved. Like, what are you talking about? What does that mean?

2:28:05 I don't know, but our system doesn't work that way. So it could be... I've seen it happen in 24 hours. But I want the movie now! And at that point I said to me, we're getting rid of this crap. We're just getting the internet and C-SPAN and some of those douchebag news channels I gotta watch. We're getting rid of all of it. And we'll have another 150 bucks a month to buy hookers with. Everyone should be doing that. It makes no sense that they can't just click the button. No, of course not. I mean, Comcast does by the way. Well they should, there's no reason why they shouldn't. No it's all on a computer. One time a couple years ago somebody didn't pay or whatever and I guess they tried calling because Comcast always calls you. But I guess nobody was around so I come in, the internet's down.

2:28:51 So, but it still has enough of a feed to tell me that they cut me off. So I called the number, they said, yeah, you got cut off. And I said, well, what's the deal? I said, well, you just owe us some money. And I gave him the card number. He says, okay. Hits the button, boom, I'm back up. Yeah. No, not here. Instantly. Not here. The Rum Diary is the name of the movie. Oh, yeah. The Rum Diary. So you didn't get to see it? No! And I give it all up. And you should do that at home too and consider sending money to the people who are bringing you real entertainment and real news. I think we're one of them. There are others out there. And that's how it's going to have to go in the future. And then get a Roku box. That kicks ass. Yeah, Roku box. Roku is outstanding. Roku and Netflix. You can entertain yourself with all kinds of stuff on the Roku box. Yeah, exactly. Although it's important that I have

2:29:45 CNN, because if I can't get me a good Don Lemon fix like this... Thousands of women taking part in some unexpected training in Iran. They're learning how to be ninja fighters. Oh, John! Not only are they creating nuclear weapons, they've got ninja fighters. How long have you been holding that clip? Ninja fighters, I tell you. That's an old clip. Really? Yeah. The ninja fighters thing. I love the ninja fighters clip. In Gitmo Nation East in the UK, one of our producers sent this one in. The weatherman makes a little slip. ...start to Sunday, and where we've got the showers, obviously that does bring the risk of some ice on the roads through the night and into Sunday morning. By and large though, it is simply a lovely winter's day tomorrow, bucket loads of cunt... Bucket loads of cunt. Thank you. That's what he said? Yes. I don't know what he was thinking.

2:30:45 It's probably got Tourette's. Oh, I love it. I love it so. Anyway. Well, I was trying to find something in the New York Times today and there's nothing trying to promote colonoscopy and Continue the phony baloney. Is that the Ozzy Osbourne colonoscopy contest? Because I see those commercials all the time. Yeah, it's part of it. There's some... Who's ever doing the public relations for some colonoscopy devices? I'm sure behind all this crap. I think it's a bad... I don't think Ozzy Osbourne is the right spokesperson for that. No, you think? But he is. Lots of vaccine news though. There's a new Norwegian mass vaccination planned.

2:31:34 So the state has ordered millions and millions of pandemrix vaccinations. This is the country, by the way, that where we first discovered the narcolepsy associated with that very vaccine. The norovirus is getting a lot of heat. It's everywhere now, says USA Today. This is the one that makes you poop. I've had it. I had it, I think, a year ago. Did you poop? Well, you poop and puke. Oh, it's a poop. It's a poop and puke thing. And it lasts for about 24 hours. You lose about five pounds. It's actually a great weight loss thing. It's a new diet pill. You lose a little weight and you poop and puke constantly. At the same time? 24 hours later, you're fine. You're good to go. It's the stupidest thing ever.

2:32:25 Well, USA Today reports there is hope. An antiviral medicine is in early development and significant progress is being made towards a vaccine. Yes, that's very good. It's not worth it. It's not worth getting a vaccine for. Whooping cough vaccine urge for all adults. That's right. The federal advisory panel wants all US adults to get vaccinated against whooping cough. I had it when I was a kid. Why should I? I had the vaccine when I was a kid. Are you an adult? Are you an adult? Apparently not. You need to get this son. The panel voted Wednesday to expand this recommendation to include all those 65 and older who have not gotten a whooping cough shot as an adult. So you got a couple years yet. And they're also working on new drugs for hepatitis C. I mean it's just it's a bonanza. It's a bonanza I tell you. It's great. It's fantastic. Just really really really doing great.

2:33:27 And what else we got? I think that's all I got. Really? I may do have some clips, but there's nothing really interesting. No, I don't think... maybe I had... I got a clip here that I forgot what it is. It says Keystone Pipeline, what's the deal? Yeah, I want to look into this. I've been looking into the Keystone Pipeline because there's something fishy about it. I haven't been able to figure out what it is, but here's a little clip that's kind of a teaser for what I'll be investigating. The president didn't turn down the Keystone Pipeline. There was a process in place, with long precedent, run out of the State Department. This is the Gibbs show. Carney. Carney. I spoke to Carney. Yeah, the Gibbs show. Carney on the Gibbs show. We saw the president kill the Keystone pipeline temporarily, but now they say, no, no, you didn't do that. You didn't see it. You were looking at the wrong thing. You've been misled. Because of the issue of the pipeline crossing an international boundary.

2:34:25 that required an amount of time for proper review after an alternate route was deemed necessary. Yeah, well, you know, we did not look into this. And I quite frankly, I don't know, all I know is that Hillary's involved in it. And that just says enough right there. Hillary and pipelines. Do you need to know any more than that? That means there's a scam going on somewhere. Yeah, no, I think I'm sure there's a scam going on. I just like to figure out what it is. I do have one kind of interesting clip left. And by the way, I have a feeling that Facebook will not go public at all. Everyone, you know, put in the book. Yeah, put that in the book. I think you should put it in the book.

2:35:10 And there's so much false information. I should write a blog post about this. There's so many people, well they've done three billion dollars mainly from advertising. No, no. A million and a half came from sale of stock and then 16% of the remainder was from Zynga money. So no. And when you think about it, they're not doing that great. You know, so what are they doing? Like a hundred billion a month? That's not all that great. A hundred million a month. It's not all that great. You know, they're not considering a billion users. 800, whatever it is, 800 billion. Oh, by the way, need to call you out, dude.

2:35:53 Okay, dude what you wrote in your I think your PC mag column about someone selling a company for a gazillion dollars Really, I'd never know really it says gazillion That was if that you see me using the word gazillion in a column a copy editor go to go to PC mag I will not use that word or ginormous as another one this is because I use ginormous you slap me back for that you slap me back and rightly so and Then I'm like really You really used gazillion dollars? Alright, I'm gonna go look and see, I'll go look at my original copy, I'm gonna look at this and if it's in there I'm gonna complain bitterly. And I'm gonna take a clip from this show and say this is the public humiliation you've put me through. Okay, this is the, what would Steve Jobs do? Maybe it wasn't that one. Crap. I think it was that one. You wrote something recently about a company being bought

2:36:53 Or sell it. Better give me the attribution. Because I can't look it up because I'll go do a search on all my columns for gazillion and it won't be in there so you have to tell me which one it is. I'll find it. And it would literally, I was like what? John C. Dvorak wrote gazillion? It's not going to happen. There's a bunch of pet peeve things I don't do. I don't use the word natch. It's another one I hate. Natch? Yeah, it's a common natch. It means naturally and people like it. Natch? No, you should be shot for using that. I had an editor do that to me. I was writing for the San Francisco Examiner and he put in natch into the column. Ah, here it is. And I got bent out of shape about it because he thought it was cute. Here it is, here it is, here it is!

2:37:37 It is from a different, I remember, now I remember what I was reading. Why does Twitter hate me? Okay? By the way, that column was ineffective at getting me verified. I have been critical of blogging. At the time, Williams, meaning Ed Williams, ran Blogger and eventually sold it to Google for gazillions of dollars. Nope. Nope. Nope. I remember writing that sentence. Well, who's your editor? I use the word millions. Who's your editor? Who was your editor? Well, I had, there's about five people to go through so I don't know which one put that in there. Well, when you, you named, take the clip from this show and say, here's what the public thinks of you. Douchebag! Not you, but the editor. The editor. It's ridiculous. I saw that, I'm like, since when does John have a ghostwriter on his columns? Man, it's only 500 words. Gazillion. What is Mimi writing them now?

2:38:34 I tell you, I didn't use that word. I'm just stunned that somebody would put it in there when it's inaccurate. It doesn't mean anything. It's one of those vague words that should never be used. It's only, it's like natch. Somebody uses it because they think it's cute. Snatch is okay though? Well, yeah, better. So I think that there's a lot going on with Facebook. And this report has two meanings. One, get off Facebook. And two, Facebook is not where you want to be. So I like the report, but I think this is someone trying to

2:39:12 devalue the company or do something but this type of reporting will not help them actually go public which they probably shouldn't do anyway because they'll just make themselves rich and go out of business. Parties are trying to figure out how pictures of 17 Massachusetts high school students ended up on a porn website. It's an awful thing you know we're very concerned about our students and their safety here at the school or any time actually. Police say the photos of the fully clothed students from Bay Path Vocational Technical School were taken from their Facebook pages. These students were unwilling participants in this. This isn't like they knew that their personal photos were going to be posted to this website.

2:39:54 And these photos were basically the sheriff talking by the way hijacked personal Facebook personal the pictures were found on a website last month school officials say they immediately informed police and student parents of the situation situation for many of the girls that were on it they were overworked They were humiliated. They didn't know how their pitches got exploited authorities are How about download and save? How hard is that? Well I deleted mine because I didn't want to be a part of like anything that would happen to me and stuff. State and federal law enforcement officials... There's a genius. Yeah, I deleted mine. Yeah, exactly. ...are trying to figure out... ...who is responsible for the website which they say also included child pornography. So far they've determined the site is based overseas. Yeah, Chiners. The Chiners trying to take down the Facebooks. There's a war going on there folks. Anyway, would you like a scoop?

2:40:59 When it comes to pictures and copyright? What? So I have successfully defended the Creative Commons copyright in court twice. In the Netherlands, you can Google this, there's jurisprudence now that Creative Commons copyright stands up. What had happened, why? Because a Dutch magazine, a Gossip magazine had taken pictures off of my Flickr site at the time which has creative commons tag and published them and I sued them successfully in court and the judge said well the copyright is valid, but Screw you curry. Yeah, you didn't lose any money So I didn't get any damages and it cost me a lot of money It cost like you know it cost you a thousand dollars and more just I mean actually taking them to court cost four thousand and

2:41:47 But I did it to prove a point. So if you go to creativecomments.org, you'll see that case laid out and translated everything. So something very interesting happened two weeks ago. Some of the pictures from our Hot Pockets Tour 2008, particularly the ones with the guns, you recall these pictures? Yeah. So they showed up in a magazine saying, oh, Adam and Mickey, they're engaged, they're going to get married, and here's a whole page of pictures of them. And it's, you know, it's like Mickey with the Glock. It's like me with the AR-15. Was this in Holland? Yes. And they even won on the cover. And I'm like, wow. But it turns out, and this was a little learning moment at home, it said, source, it had a credit for the photos, Adam Curry and Mickey Hoogendyke, Twitter. I'm like, really? And so, you know, Twitter, I'm like, really?

2:42:42 So it turns out that Mickey had uploaded some of these pictures, tweeted them, and they went through Twitter's new photo service. So first I say Mickey, you know, it's like I don't think is it twit pick. No, it's not twit pick It's the other one. Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I said Mickey this is really tough man because you know We don't have a creative commons on these and if you go and look it says in the terms of service It says Twitter you hereby give Twitter and you know a worldwide license to basically sell your crap sell whatever you want so if Twitter gave them a license and

2:43:22 then we're screwed, you know, and so she's like, oh man, that was really dumb. I'm like, yeah, okay, anyway, it's okay. You know, I said, I'm gonna call my guy and we'll see what he says. And so I call my lawyer in Holland. He says, well, you know what? Why don't we ask the publisher, which is a big company, Audax. So why don't we ask him to show us the permission from Twitter since they say they got it from Twitter, show the permission. And so my lawyer of course writes a different note. He says, we need 5,000 euros and 1,000 euros in legal costs because unless you can produce the document and you have to sign this document that says if we ever do it again, we'll have to pay you 20,000 euros. Guess what? They came back. Checking the mail? Well, I'm 1,500 euros damages, 1,000 euros for the

2:44:14 for the legal fee, which basically all of it's gonna go towards the lawyer. The lawyer is like, this went on for two weeks, this is like 400 euros a letter, so I'm making no money on the deal. And they did sign the document. They said if we ever do it again, we'll pay you 20,000. So I would say it's a win that A, we know that Twitter didn't sell it, that's really good, but also you can actually go after these A-holes. Well in Holland anyway. Oh it's jurisprudence, it'll stand up. It'll stand up. We're pretty cool right? Yeah no I think I'm glad that you're doing this. It's a big deal. Yeah I'm the only guy that does this. There's so all these these these

2:45:00 Puffers, Pufferizers, oh copyright, no one ever does the dirty work. And I said to Mickey, well Disney does. Yeah, I said we really can't afford this. But let's just do it. We got to protect ourselves. We can't have this happening. And there you go. And so I'm just waiting for the final negotiation because I want as a part of the deal, I want to be able to publicize this so that people know that magazines just can't go stealing your pictures. But at the same time, Twitter could actually give someone the license to do that.

2:45:39 Right, so smart money would go to Twitter and have a deal. The way you do it, you have a standing deal with Twitter. Exactly. To take everything they have whenever you feel like it and then whatever you use and you give them a check. So you say I want a standing deal, I want to use whatever I can use and then if you use one thing then you send them a check. If you use two things you send them another check. Right you are. That's the way these deals are usually done. Right you are. So I'm thinking we got to set up an agency. A photo agency? I got another idea. It's a photo agency. Yeah, it's just Twitter photos. Twitter photo agency. Yeah, be a middleman for Twitter. They make money on the deal. They need to make money.

2:46:15 A document came out, the Obama administration coming out with a online bill of rights, which is the most disgusting document I've ever seen, but I have not dissected it enough, so we'll talk about that on Sunday. I will be all over it, because it's exactly what this is about, how you, the government will actually help commercial companies... Screw you! ...and take your stuff, exactly. So, get off Facebook, get rid of your cable, and move to Austin. Cuz that's where it's at baby everyone here is tall and pretty too all right coming to you from Camp Mofo here in the drone star state in Austin Tejas That'd be the capital in the morning everybody my name is Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where there actually is a pool on how long Adam will stay in Austin I'm John C. Dvorak enough about your family

2:47:13 And a reminder, Dirty Boxers' Lee Brown is live Monday to Friday on the stream from 9 to 11 a.m. Eastern, and you will definitely want to check him out. He's a British dude, does a fun little show there. You should check it out on the stream, noagendastream.com. We'll be back again on Sunday with another fun-packed episode, right here on No Agenda. DeVolmerac.org slash N-A