Episode 373 · Thursday, 12 January 2012

Paraphilia

Mainstream media outlets deploy ageist narratives and electability metrics to suppress the Ron Paul phenomenon while tensions escalate in Iran following a high-profile assassination.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 373

About this episode

The New Hampshire primary results and the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan dominate the news cycle as the media establishment attempts to marginalize Ron Paul. While Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman receive favorable coverage from NBC and CNN, the hosts analyze how Lawrence O'Donnell and Dana Bash use specific linguistic framing to dismiss Paul’s second-place finish. Meanwhile, the targeted killing of Ahmadi-Roshan via a magnetic bomb in Tehran triggers a scripted international response, with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issuing categorical denials of U.S. involvement.

Domestic policy tensions rise as the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and PIPA legislation threaten internet infrastructure through DNS poisoning and punitive payment blocks. Representative Darrell Issa introduces the OPEN Act as a potential alternative, though its regulatory burden remains a point of contention. In the executive branch, Bill Daley resigns as White House Chief of Staff, making way for Jacob Lew, a former Citigroup executive and Council on Foreign Relations member. Concurrently, the TSA faces scrutiny over radiation dosimetry requests for officers at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, fueling concerns regarding potential cancer clusters linked to body scanners.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the absurdity of modern authority, from the theft of a two-ton wooden shoe in Holland to the "free ponies" promised in a Jon Huntsman concession speech. The hosts perform a formal knighthood for producer David Oberbeck while mocking the decline of cable networks like the History Channel. Moiz Khan provides a boots-on-the-ground update from the Bin Laden compound in Abbottabad, describing the site as a high-security dump where Chinese officials allegedly inspected crashed American stealth technology.


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CHAPTER 01 / 52 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 373 Introduction and Garbage Day Banter

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 373 of the No Agenda show from Austin, Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts discuss their synchronized garbage collection schedules and the live streaming nature of the program. They welcome the "human resources" participating in the live chat at noagendastream.com.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· no agenda· austin texas· silicon valley

00:00 Can people play along at home? Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah. It's Thursday, January 12th, 2012. Time for your Get My Nation Media Assassination episode 373. This is no agenda. Defying electability from Camoflo here in Austin, Texas, the capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And on garbage day here in northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. Stinger, hey we're synced up, we have the same garbage day now.

00:36 Oh, that's cool. Yeah, so we could remind each other. Hey man, did you put the trash out? Did you put the trash out? This is my job, by the way. The trash. She doesn't contribute to the trash removal? No, that is my job. I do trash removal. That's the one thing that has really set my job. Trash removal. That's okay. That's kind of what we do on this show. Whoa! Hello everybody. In the morning to you there, Johnny boy. In the morning to you, Adam Curry and all ships at sea and all the boots on the ground and feet in the air. And of course our human resources all charged up ready to go in the chat room at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net. Let me just check and see if we have a quorum. We do indeed. People are tuning in. We always do the program live on Thursdays and Sunday mornings.

01:26 And that's at 9 o'clock, Gidmore Nation West time, and you can listen to it streaming live, which some people apparently find entertaining. Yeah, I was baffled by people who insist on listening live. Well, we insist on doing it live. Yes, we do. So, you know, that's like, I like it. And I think people also enjoy the pre-stream and our little banter before we get started and all that stuff. As long as the pre-stream doesn't hit the floor. John, please, would you mind... I'm on a roll! Yeah, you are. Hold on, I'll give you another little... Would you mind stepping into the time machine once again, John? Okay, here I go. Okay, you're in and here we go. Let's go back to the previous program where we discussed the New Hampshire primaries. But from a perspective of someone who might be a professional in the field that's analyzing what they've seen so far without hearing the last debate,

CHAPTER 02 / 52 Discussion

New Hampshire Primary Predictions Review and Results

The hosts review their previous predictions regarding the New Hampshire primary results. While they correctly anticipated a Mitt Romney victory and a strong showing for Ron Paul, they analyze the specific percentages and the performance of candidates like Jon Huntsman and Rick Santorum. Ron Paul's actual 23% finish exceeded their initial 15-18% estimate.

mitt romney· ron paul· rick santorum· new hampshire primary· election predictions

02:23 I would suspect that Romney will win with a large portion of the vote and these three other guys will kind of split the second half of the... in other words, I think Santorum, maybe Gingrich and Paul will each have about the same amount and then twice as many votes for Romney. He's a local boy. It's a local election for him. Yeah, because he's from Massachusetts. Yeah. Well, If I were to produce this, and by the way, I'd have some of the Hooters girls at the convention during the caucus just walking around. But if I were to produce this and I want to have a good news show, I agree. I'm going to say Romney 40 percent. Then I'm going to say Ron Paul second.

03:18 And it will be, you're right, it will be a significantly smaller percentage and this will show... Sub 20. Yes, sub 20. I'm thinking somewhere in the 15 to 18 percent range. Gingrich falls off the radar, but right behind Ron Paul will be Santorum. With like 1 percent, it'll be a race between Santorum and Ron Paul and then upset will have Huntsman as third. There you go. Well, I think we except for the Ron Paul got 23% instead of 15 to 18. I think we pretty much called it once again, John. Yeah, I think we may have miscalled it if we take a listen to, um, let me get the right clip here. Oh, you caught me off guard. I'm trying to see. Oh yeah, I caught you off guard. We once again, we predict a television shows outcome and you don't think that's going to be the first thing I'm going to do in the show. I caught you off guard. Uh,

CHAPTER 03 / 52 Discussion

Lawrence O'Donnell Media Bias and Bain Capital Commentary

The discussion focuses on media bias exhibited by NBC's Lawrence O'Donnell during his coverage of the Republican primaries. The hosts critique O'Donnell's attempt to dismiss Ron Paul's second-place finish by hypothetically removing him from the equation to favor Jon Huntsman. They also examine O'Donnell's commentary on Newt Gingrich's attacks regarding Mitt Romney's tenure at Bain Capital.

lawrence o'donnell· nbc news· mitt romney· bain capital· newt gingrich

04:20 Play take Ron Paul out of the equation because this is what really happened. With Mitt Romney's victory in the bag, the only question that remained last night, who would be the first pundit to dismiss Ron Paul's second place finish? NBC News can now project that Ron Paul will finish second. If you take Ron Paul out of this, what would have happened to Huntsman? Huntsman is the real second here. No! You can't! You're not allowed to just take Ron Paul out of this! I opted not to use that clip, so I'm kind of glad you did. Well, Lawrence O'Donnell is such a douchebag. Hold on. That he would do this, but I also have another good, and the reason I kept it in because I have a different clip from him where he's like lecturing the Republicans on what, you know, especially about this Romney-Bain capital thing, which is bullshit, who cares?

05:17 But play the, this is another Lawrence O'Donnell douchebag clip where he goes on, that's what triggered me to keep this other clip. And Newt Gingrich is asking how many people could have kept their jobs if Mitt Romney was willing to make a couple of hundred million dollars less than what he made at Bain Capital. If Newt Gingrich stops talking about this tomorrow, if Rush Limbaugh scares him into silence on this, Newt Gingrich has already done an admirable job of forcing Republicans to think about something they don't like to think about. The difference between doing something that the doings that between the right to do something between doing something

06:03 that the doings that be between the right to do something and doing the right thing. You kind of botched the end of that thing. Needless to say, I exaggerated by rerunning it. The guy is unbelievable. You know, the sad thing is, is this virus This, well, it's not really a virus. It's of course because they actually are very afraid of what's going on here is spreading. I have a couple of things also from around the world just so we can hear from how this is being perceived in other Gitmo nation states. This first though is

CHAPTER 04 / 52 Discussion

Dana Bash and CNN Mainstream Media Bias

Adam Curry highlights a specific clip of CNN's Dana Bash speaking to Wolf Blitzer, noting her choice of words regarding Ron Paul's campaign. Curry argues that Bash's phrasing reveals a personal or institutional worry among mainstream media strategists that Paul might hurt the eventual Republican nominee. The hosts characterize this as a clear example of "catch of the day" media bias.

dana bash· cnn· wolf blitzer· ron paul· media bias

06:41 Dana bash on CNN the alien woman she's she is reptilian But they didn't finish her yet She puts you know they need to put in your plump up the cheeks a little bit, and then she won't look a little more human More humanized listen to watch now She is a member of the mainstream media but listen to the word she uses because they matter in this report where she's talking to wolf and What?

07:33 that Ron Paul will continue on long into the spring and summer even further even if he runs as a Republican or as an Independent he could really hurt whomever the Republican nominee is because still nobody thinks even if he does well here in New Hampshire that he will ultimately be the nominee. Now I clearly heard her say that a lot of Republican strategists are worried just like I am that Ron Paul will. Can you replay that? Yeah. We're worried as well, just like I am. Wow! Holy mackerel! That is already the clip of the day. Oh really? Okay, well I'll take that. That's a great catch.

CHAPTER 05 / 52 Discussion

Rick Santorum Double Speak on Iran Nuclear Weapons

The hosts analyze a clip of Rick Santorum discussing Iranian nuclear capabilities. They point out a linguistic slip or "double speak" where Santorum's phrasing makes it unclear whether he intends to prevent or ensure Iran obtains a nuclear weapon. This leads to a broader discussion on the aggressive rhetoric coming from U.S. politicians regarding Iran and Syria.

rick santorum· iran· nuclear weapons· double speak· foreign policy

08:09 That's a great catch on bias. That's amazing that you could use. I mean, that's a problem that we have. I mean, I have a thing here just to just not I want to change the subject. I want to go back to it. But just talking about this double talk and the double standards and this and the media bias. Listen to this Rick Santorum clip on assassinations where he where he makes sure it's the right one. Yeah, the Rick Santorum clip on assassination. Tell me where you see the double talk. We've got problems. There was a nuclear scientist who was... No, no, no. It may be more Santorum double speak. Is that the one you're thinking about? That would be it, yeah. Okay. I'll pull you there. Iran must not get a nuclear weapon. And we will go about whatever it takes to make sure that happens. That's right.

08:58 to make sure that happens you mean that they do get a nuclear weapon? or they do do get it or they do not get a nuclear weapon. Less, less, less, less, more. Let me listen to that again. Iran must not get a nuclear weapon and we will go about whatever it takes to make sure that happens. You know I got so much Iran and Syria stuff because Lucifer, Clippity-Clop, Clinton and Anne, no I'm sorry Susan Susan Rice were were out in full force, but just a couple I want to get I want to get to this one clip since we're still talking about the Because we'll get off this soon. Yeah, I have a couple world clips to and then Ron Paul thing okay? Well, I want to play what you're talking about sinking to the lowest of the low Jay Leno

CHAPTER 06 / 52 Discussion

Jay Leno Ageist Comedy and Youth Media Bias

The hosts critique a segment from Jay Leno's show featuring a child commentator discussing political candidates. They argue the segment was heavily edited to portray Ron Paul as an elderly man who takes naps, contrasting this with the more respectful treatment of Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. They label this as "pure ageism" and a "sick" form of media manipulation.

jay leno· ron paul· ageism· rick santorum· tonight show

09:44 has this kid, this idiot kid who comes on his show and he wraps up the news on the candidates. It's not John, is it? Who used to work for Howard Stern? No, no. I don't think he works for Leno anymore. No, I'm talking about a kid, like a nine-year-old. who comes on and he makes these and now tell me you listen to this I get first there's a setup with one guy and then he goes in to discuss the little idiot kid discusses Ron Paul and tell me that this isn't like a weird kind of sick media bias. Diversity, opinions, faith. Rick Santorum talks more about God than his economic plan. But God is a good thing. Because God is what created people and I think people really look up to him a lot.

10:36 and I think that he's speaking a lot about God to make others feel good about it. Do you believe Governor Romney now when he says that he is a man of constancy and that he'll stand up for conservative principles? You know, I think this whole discussion so far has been very superficial and I think the question in a way that you ask is superficial in that you're talking about character which is very important. I think Ron Paul is like 86 years old. Oh man. I hope it's close I have no idea. Ron Paul, he probably takes more naps than I do though. I've heard you know you have differences with President Obama but who's got the better of this argument right here between Senator Santorum and Governor? Yeah so more ageist crap. Ageist crap and by the way that was that piece with the little kid was edited. Severely. They chose those two clips overly. This is not freeform live TV.

11:36 I have noticed though whenever they talk about Congressman Ron Paul it's always like the 76 year old congressman. They don't say you know about Mitt Romney the 52 year old governor. They don't say that. They don't say that so this is you know it's pure ageism. Britt Hume. Britt Hume. This one circulated around the net quite a bit. Now senior political analyst Britt Hume with some thoughts on this evening. Hi Britt. Hi, Brett. My thought would be, obviously we have an important win for Romney in New Hampshire. Proves once again that the New Hampshire primary matters and matters a lot. The poll showing is interesting because I think it's perhaps a closer second than many of us thought he would achieve, but I continue to believe, and I think most observers do, that he's got about as much chance of being nominated as RuPaul would.

CHAPTER 07 / 52 Discussion

Britt Hume RuPaul Comparison and Media Marginalization

Fox News analyst Britt Hume is criticized for comparing Ron Paul's chances of winning the nomination to those of the drag queen RuPaul. The hosts argue this is a low-effort attempt by the "ruling elite" to marginalize Paul's candidacy despite his polling numbers. They mock Hume's claim that "most observers" agree with this assessment.

britt hume· fox news· ron paul· rupaul· media marginalization

10:36 and I think that he's speaking a lot about God to make others feel good about it. Do you believe Governor Romney now when he says that he is a man of constancy and that he'll stand up for conservative principles? You know, I think this whole discussion so far has been very superficial and I think the question in a way that you ask is superficial in that you're talking about character which is very important. I think Ron Paul is like 86 years old. Oh man. I hope it's close I have no idea. Ron Paul, he probably takes more naps than I do though. I've heard you know you have differences with President Obama but who's got the better of this argument right here between Senator Santorum and Governor? Yeah so more ageist crap. Ageist crap and by the way that was that piece with the little kid was edited. Severely. They chose those two clips overly. This is not freeform live TV.

11:36 I have noticed though whenever they talk about Congressman Ron Paul it's always like the 76 year old congressman. They don't say you know about Mitt Romney the 52 year old governor. They don't say that. They don't say that so this is you know it's pure ageism. Britt Hume. Britt Hume. This one circulated around the net quite a bit. Now senior political analyst Britt Hume with some thoughts on this evening. Hi Britt. Hi, Brett. My thought would be, obviously we have an important win for Romney in New Hampshire. Proves once again that the New Hampshire primary matters and matters a lot. The poll showing is interesting because I think it's perhaps a closer second than many of us thought he would achieve, but I continue to believe, and I think most observers do, that he's got about as much chance of being nominated as RuPaul would.

12:32 Jeez, how low can you go? I mean, and by the way, the science is in most people agree now. I mean, so he apparently as a journalist went to these other. Let me just say here exactly what he called. I think most observers do that. Most observers agree that RuPaul has a bigger chance of becoming the candidate. So that's a fact. It's a fact. He's actually gone around and asked. Yes. Well, I think RuPaul. And they all know who RuPaul is, of course. So this is very, very, very good. Let's go around the world first. Let's go to our neighbors in canadia And I received this clip from one of our Canadian producers who was appalled because of course the Canadians are pretty proud of their news Falsely and incorrectly proud of their news this is from the CBC who characterized Dr.. Ron Paul

CHAPTER 08 / 52 Discussion

CBC Canada Coverage of Ron Paul as Wacky

The hosts examine how the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) portrays Ron Paul to international audiences. They highlight the use of descriptors like "wacky," "anti-bank," and "kooky" to describe the libertarian candidate. They suggest this international framing is part of a coordinated effort by the global elite to dismiss Paul's anti-central bank message.

cbc· canada· ron paul· libertarian· media framing

13:24 We made history. Mitt Romney won alright, as expected, and this time by a good deal more than his minuscule 8-vote margin in Iowa. In a solid second place, the libertarian Ron Paul. But we're nibbling at his heel. Paul, a somewhat wacky anti-Central Bank, anti-war candidate, continues to be carried along by his small flock of assorted devoted followers. But I sort of have to chuckle when they describe you and me as being dangerous. The one surprise of the night, the third place finish by former Utah Governor John Huntsman. Now this is very carefully crafted.

14:05 And Ron Paul someone does have to speak to him about this Because you know when you talk like this and you're excited Then you get these sound bites which take out of context it sounds creepy Yeah, and so they in but you know did they say wacky anti-bank kooky creepy You know his Legion or whatever his army his devoted father crazy people. Thank you very much, Canada Yeah, so that's how it's being portrayed there. This is the ruling elite, as it were. Of course it is the elite. They're just doing what they can to marginalize the guy. I mean even Rush Limbaugh, just as an aside, if you go to Rush Limbaugh's website,

CHAPTER 09 / 52 Discussion

Rush Limbaugh Tinfoil Hat Graphics and Electability Narrative

The discussion turns to Rush Limbaugh's website, which reportedly featured photoshopped images of Ron Paul wearing a tinfoil hat. The hosts argue that as Paul's popularity grows, the media has shifted its strategy from mockery to questioning his "electability." They contend that "electability" is a manufactured metric used to favor establishment candidates like Mitt Romney.

rush limbaugh· ron paul· electability· media narrative· tinfoil hat

14:49 to see his commentary on Ron Paul. He has two pictures of Ron Paul on a transcript and both of the pictures have been photoshopped with a tinfoil hat. Yeah, that's so hilarious. I mean this guy's a Republican and Limbaugh is a spokeshole for the Republicans essentially or the independents. He claims to be an independent. Ron Paul is the independent choice So what is his problem? He's a douche knuckle. Duh! The BBC did their own little version. That's where Newt Gingrich or Rick Santorum, two classic right-wing socially conservative candidates, could upset and beat Romney. If that happens, then one of them will emerge as the anybody-but-Romney candidate, as the conservative champion, and then we might have a serious two-man race. But the problem is, at the moment, the conservative wing of the Republicans is too divided.

15:48 And which of those do you think could actually beat Obama? which of the uh... well that's that's an even tougher question it's almost a good question but apparently it's a tough question if you look at national polls none of them can beat obama the one guy other than romney who could beat obama according to national polls i'm not making this up is maverick libertarian ron paul cbs today said that he's only one point behind obama in a hypothetical setup and that's because he appeals by the way blue collar voters we were discussing earlier. Now this is very interesting. So first of all, you know, there's a degrading quality in this report by I'm not making this up. Can you believe that this is this is creepy? How can it be? You can't have some kooky old guy and old conjuring.

16:38 Crackpot old dr. Paul. So if you look at all news media and get mo nation Proper here. They have now changed since the polls clearly show that Ron Paul is popular and it's not even it's not Ron Paul It's his message his message of let's not kill people You know, let's restore some some freedom and personal liberty now they are switching to electability and Oh, no, now we have to have electability. Now, first of all, the definition of electability is that you're an American citizen, that you haven't been in jail, I think. Is there any other qualification?

CHAPTER 10 / 52 Discussion

Constitutional Requirements for Presidency and Media Repetition

The hosts discuss the actual constitutional requirements for the U.S. presidency, noting the minimum age of 35 and natural-born citizenship. They contrast these simple legal facts with the media's complex "electability" narrative. They compare the media's constant promotion of Mitt Romney to the repetitive marketing of washing powder.

constitution· presidency· age requirements· mitt romney· media repetition

17:19 Well, of course they're referring to a... I know, but we're talking about how words matter. Well, it's just the age, you have to be born here. It's just basically the age and having to be born here. Is there an age limit? You have to be a certain age? I think you can run as a felon, I'm not sure you can. Do you have to be a certain age to... You have to have a minimum age, which is like 32 or something. I don't remember what it is. Oh, I didn't know there was a minimum age. Okay. Yeah, there is. So something very interesting is happening here and this is exciting me on the other hand it's baffling me a little bit. So this electability thing is the new because of course the charts all show Romney is So electable because let's face it. You know he had his hair is perfect. You know he's he's got the strong jaw Just interrupt just 35 years old at the at the day of the election the day of the election, okay? I wonder why they made that rule didn't people die when they were 40 back then yeah, so it's like he'll be present. Yeah, Ron Paul's young man by the yeah, really really

18:21 So this is a big thing. All the charts now, and of course it really matters when you watch television, oh Romney's way ahead. But it's not in polling, it's in electability, which is something very different. So this is a very interesting, sneaky thing that the media is doing because... It's amazing. Clearly they can't... the we buy washing powder. It's repetition. If you keep getting the message hammered over and over and over again... Devorak.org slash N-A. And the funny thing is when you go out in the park, you know, float around with your friends or you go to some dinner, you're hanging out in some event and you bring up Ron Paul, they just, unless they're no agenda listeners, they just throw it right back. They take the pap

CHAPTER 11 / 52 Discussion

Doug Wead and the Ron Paul Blocking Strategy

The hosts analyze the emergence of Doug Wead as a senior advisor for the Ron Paul campaign. Given Wead's history with the Bush family and high speaking fees, Dvorak suspects he may be part of an intelligence-linked "blocking strategy." The theory suggests Paul is being used to prevent other candidates like Newt Gingrich from gaining traction against the "knighted" frontrunner, Mitt Romney.

doug wead· ron paul· mitt romney· blocking strategy· george h.w. bush

19:25 and throw it right at him. Oh, he's nuts. Oh, he's a great guy. You're kidding me. He's old. That guy wants the gold standard. Yeah. You watch people start, yeah. Which is such a bad thing. The gold, gold is crazy because they've just heard stuff. And of course, this is why you listen to this program, because we can help you get laid at cocktail parties. Now, the Paul campaign, something interesting has happened. They now have a spokeshole, Doug Weed. Does this name ring a bell for you? No, it doesn't ring a bell. Weed. W-E-A-D. Why don't you look him up and I'll play this clip. He's been on all of the news programs spinning this electability thing. And in a good way. I'm just interested about the Doug Weed character in general. Doug Weed is a senior advisor to the Paul campaign and joins us now from Washington. Doug, great to see you again. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Well, in the latest South Carolina poll,

20:18 Dr. Paul was at 12% Mitt Romney was at 37% He said last night he was nibbling at his heels and he certainly was in a second a strong second place finish here in New Hampshire But when you look at the crowds, he's got passionate young supporters He's got a lot of anti-war supporters a lot of libertarian supporters crazy people by the way the same time. He's not He really think he has a credible run or march to the nomination given the fact that Mitt Romney has now won Iowa and New Hampshire and is far ahead in South Carolina. Yes, we do. If we've learned anything in this election cycle, we have learned that anything can happen. And this is basically now a two-man race. That is a secret that's been hidden in plain view for six months with the polls that showed both Ron Paul and Mitt Romney as the only Republican candidates that were within striking distance of Obama.

21:14 Ron Paul was doing as well as Mitt Romney within the margin of error of those polls, whether it's NBC, Marist or Washington Post, ABC. So this is real. Perception? No. I agree. But reality? We have to run this campaign on reality and we can still win it. But the exit polls don't have that kind of margin of error and in the exit polls overwhelmingly those who voted in New Hampshire said that they think that the most important qualification is electability. Okay here it comes. You've looked up Doug Weed by now right? This is a pro. I've seen him a couple times too. This guy's a pro. Yeah, his connections are interesting. Well he was special assistant to George W. HW.

21:57 Oh, HW, I'm sorry, yeah, HW. But he's worked with George W. Yeah. He's... Well, listen to the eligibility question and then I want your take on what this guy is doing here, if he's good or bad. And that Mitt Romney has that nailed. Now, going forward, if Ron Paul does not win in South Carolina, is there a point at which he would decide not to continue on because it would simply be damaging the frontrunner, Mitt Romney, and helping to re-elect Barack Obama? Well, just a second, Andrea. I challenge your premise. It's true that in those exit polls they say that electability is the most important issue. And it's true that in the NBC Marist poll or any of these polls,

22:41 The people polled think that Ron Paul can't beat Barack Obama. But when they actually ask, in your polls, who do you favor, Ron Paul or Barack Obama, he does better than all of the Republican contenders except Mitt Romney, and he's within two points in many of the polls and some right on the money with Mitt Romney. So we don't think this thing is over. We think we'll do good in South Carolina. We're second among born-again Christians. And we've got a strong following as you know among the military and we're changing the party. This is a story the news media has missed. So this is very interesting. I believe that somewhere in the powers that be someone said let's really push Ron Paul. I think that's what's happening here because this guy doesn't just show up for no good reason. I mean yeah it takes money to hire a guy like this. I'm sure he's not cheap.

CHAPTER 12 / 52 Discussion

Political Subversion and the Anti-Federal Reserve Message

The hosts debate whether the Ron Paul campaign is sincere or being manipulated by establishment forces. While Dvorak remains skeptical of the "blocking strategy," Curry expresses hope that Paul's anti-Federal Reserve message is gaining genuine traction on Wall Street. They conclude that Paul's primary goal is to inject subversive ideas about personal liberty and fiscal responsibility into the mainstream.

ron paul· federal reserve· wall street· subversion· political strategy

23:36 and just looking at his website, DougWeed.com, W-E-A-D, speaking fee for international engagements is $50,000. So that's just for him to go there and show a PowerPoint. So this guy can't be cheap. And it lightens my heart somewhat that perhaps somewhere in the dark corridors, someone said, you know what? Let's push him. I think I've seen him a couple times. I'm reading his bio, his wiki bio, and he sounds like he's connected to the intelligence community to be quite honest about it. Yeah, sure. And he might be part of a blocking strategy.

24:22 Which I think is what's really going on here. Because the way he phrased that last thing that you played, which is everyone except Mitt Romney, and he kind of deferred. In other words, I think they're using Ron Paul and this guy will be part of that scheme to block the other candidates. Completely so because so none of them can make a run at Romney at this point, and that's exactly what Ron Paul is doing He's acting like a new version of Huckabee Huckabee was used as a blocking strategy. This is a known script then this is this is nothing This is the Huckabee block the Huckabee blocking strategy that was used against the people trying to push McCain out because McCain was was knighted

25:03 to become the candidate whether anyone liked it or not. Well I think McCain, I truly believe he was on the inside and he was meant to lose. I think that was the strategy. That doesn't surprise me either but I'm just saying from the one half of the perspective not the meta. the meta concept, but just from the perspective of who's going to be the nominee of the Republican Party. I believe that Romney, who was also ran in 2008, was given the... because it's every... they keep saying this, well this is the guy, he's the next guy, he's going to be... they're going to give him the nomination. So they set him up, because there's no reason that

25:43 that Romney won Iowa. None. In fact, I don't think he did. I think Santorum did, but they won't give it to him. They found 20-odd votes that were miscast. You're not telling me there's gambling going on there? There's 20 odd votes that were miscast. Romney's the only guy in history, because he's actually a weak candidate for the Republicans being a Mormon. Not that there's anything wrong with Mormons, and I think they hate Mormons, but which makes him a weak candidate for the Republicans. He's the first candidate in history that won both Iowa and New Hampshire. New Hampshire was a shoe-in for him because he was basically a New Hampshire person, except he's from the Massachusetts nuts right next door.

26:25 uh... but there was no it did the beginning if you remember like six months ago there was no way that he was going to win iowa in fact the way it was present why he's not even serious about iowa so how does he win iowa now it is going to south carolina were all he has to do is win that then it's over and the best thing to do is to get a guy blocking candidate uh... to keep these other guys especially gingrich who's gonna go right after ronnie he's very so so but do you think that the Ron Paul camp understands what is going on? No, no, they're sincere and the fact of the matter... You know who said that twice? I was watching this thing. I've seen it quite a lot recently. Yeah, Perry says it constantly. All the time, he says it all the time. Yeah, I know, so it's hard for me to get rid of it because I should have not said that. But anyway... The chat room goes wild, by the way. Yeah, the chat room can... I'd go to the chat room but if they didn't pick me up, I might show up.

27:23 And we know. But the strategy will change if Ron Paul gets any more traction. I think they're gonna let him have a good showing in South Carolina because he's got real low numbers now and he'll boost up to perhaps second place as a blocking candidate. And then after that, they're just, that's it. That's the end of him. And by the way, we predicted before this all started that Romney would be the candidate. I mean, it was a no brainer. I am hopeful though, because I know that Ron Paul's anti-Federal Reserve stance is actually appreciated and welcomed by quite a few on Wall Street. As strange as that may sound. I truly have hope that this guy, that Doug Weed has been put in to do some good and not just... I mean, I hear you.

28:22 and logically I think I agree with you but I really don't want to believe it. And but Paul himself has said that his most important thing here is to get his message into the mainstream thought process. It's essentially a subversive message It's not a subversive message to you, me, or the listeners of the No Agenda Show. It's a subversive message to the system that has taken away our rights and has had all these crazy wars and is breaking the backs of the working public and also busting the country. We're broke. If he truly wants to propagate that message, and if he does not become president,

29:07 The best thing for him to do is to become the host of Fear Factor. Then he would get some attention. That's the only way. Otherwise people won't watch. There's no way. You can't get on television otherwise. Wouldn't he be great as the host of Fear Factor? He'd be great as a lot of different hosts. Yeah, he'd be great as the host of this show. There's always possibility. I support our value for value message. We tab no advertising on this program So we can speak freely are not hampered by any of the constraints or filters that mainstream media has We are we don't have to say we're afraid of Ron Paul

CHAPTER 13 / 52 Discussion

Value for Value Model and Media Constraints

The hosts explain the "Value for Value" model of the No Agenda show, which relies entirely on listener donations rather than advertising. They contrast their freedom to discuss controversial topics like Ron Paul with the constraints faced by mainstream media hosts who must answer to corporate "suits." Curry shares an anecdote about the pressures of working in commercial radio.

value for value· podcasting· media independence· advertising· censorship

28:22 and logically I think I agree with you but I really don't want to believe it. And but Paul himself has said that his most important thing here is to get his message into the mainstream thought process. It's essentially a subversive message It's not a subversive message to you, me, or the listeners of the No Agenda Show. It's a subversive message to the system that has taken away our rights and has had all these crazy wars and is breaking the backs of the working public and also busting the country. We're broke. If he truly wants to propagate that message, and if he does not become president,

29:07 The best thing for him to do is to become the host of Fear Factor. Then he would get some attention. That's the only way. Otherwise people won't watch. There's no way. You can't get on television otherwise. Wouldn't he be great as the host of Fear Factor? He'd be great as a lot of different hosts. Yeah, he'd be great as the host of this show. There's always possibility. I support our value for value message. We tab no advertising on this program So we can speak freely are not hampered by any of the constraints or filters that mainstream media has We are we don't have to say we're afraid of Ron Paul

30:00 We can say whatever we want and that's because the program is completely sponsored by its listeners, also known as producers, who supply a good 70% of the material on the show. Yeah, and it's true too because the type of show we do, I can assure you, We'd be getting phone calls after each show. Hey, um after each show John and Adam single show you come in here Some suit You know you shouldn't could you back off a little bit on this? I think you're spending too much time. Oh, no you shouldn't have done this you shouldn't they're always doing this no no no he's I hear her

30:41 You know, I really love the political angle you guys are taking. That's really cool. Yeah, that's the worst type. But why don't you just, you should slip in a little like, you know, Taylor Swift news or something. You know, people are interested in that stuff too. That's what they do. And what happens is they don't just do it once in a while because you can resist. Oh, yeah, okay sure next time. Oh, yeah, but it's we it's show after show after show after and it just never lets up and you eventually cave. Yeah, exactly. Or you quit. Because you can't take it anymore. Yeah. Well, I never caved on Arrow Classic Rock. You were fired. No, no. The station was... their license was revoked. The station was burnt to the ground. Almost literally burnt to the ground.

CHAPTER 14 / 52 Discussion

Producer Donations and Milwaukee Makerspace

The hosts acknowledge significant donations from producers, including David Overbeck and Han Schneider. They discuss the Milwaukee Makerspace, a group of builders who offered to help Curry with "Tesla flying machines." The segment highlights the community aspect of the show and the diverse locations of its "Gitmo Nation" supporters, ranging from Wisconsin to Germany.

milwaukee makerspace· tesla· knighthood· donations· gitmo nation

31:27 Yeah, well that's a different story. David Overbeck, we want to thank him for being a second producer for this show number 373 from Elm Grove, Wisconsin. And he gave 33333. And he'll be coming out tonight today. And he's a knight. He wanted to finish up his knighthood with a 3333 donation in honor of my lucky 33rd birthday this Friday, January 13th. Friday the 13th, like they ask for some karma from my smoking hot fiancee, Kristen. Oh, hold on a second. Let me do that for him. That's one mother I like. You've got karma. I met them. I met them at the... Oh yeah, is Kristen smoking hot? Absolutely smoking hot.

32:05 They are you know what we emailed a picture of Kristen with Adam at the Hot Pockets 2008 stop in Illinois this past I don't have a copy how come he didn't send it to me I look I think I look smoking hot in the picture too actually well Please let Adam know that if he wants the Milwaukee makers to help finish his Tesla flying machines. Just get us the plans I don't want to hear about it No, I just have to say this is if you go to milwaukeemakerspace.org these guys are very cool. They make the they have a machine shop and they make the most awesome things. You have to see you have to really look at this website. Where are they located Milwaukee? Yes, they drove from Milwaukee to the Illinois meetup.

32:48 I had a nice chat with him and I said look if you guys will but will build the Tesla anti-gravity gravitational device I'll fly it that was the deal yeah but that's probably not gonna be a dangerous flight since it won't get off the ground well you say that but you watch it's guys like this who will build it and I'll show up with my crash helmet and I will fly it yeah um tapes it Anyway, he thanks us for the work we do. It's greatly appreciated and he has ring size 11. Han Schneider, which is, we think we had some problems getting the spreadsheet today, so I don't know where he's from. It says it's just a bunch of symbols. I don't know where he is.

33:28 Oh, and that's probably Cologne. He's in Cologne. Yeah, in Cologne. Gitmo Nation Deutschland. Yeah. Deutschland. $274.51, associate executive producer. The first time donor, but he says it's from Munich. Munich. Munich to you. Gitmo Nation Doucheland here. Haha, he's from Dushland. That's good. Love the show which keeps me on my toes in media BS as well as on crack pottery. Donate 27451 which is the yearly amount I would be legally obliged to pay for our state controlled television stations here in Dushland. But I don't! I thought I'd donate some money now before the Euros. Hallo! Hallo Herr Schneider! We're coming here for your donation to the state media. Where is your money?

CHAPTER 15 / 52 Discussion

Dr. Nenninger and the Exit from TWiT

A regular donor, Dr. Nenninger, explains his transition from being a listener of Leo Laporte's TWiT network to supporting No Agenda. He cites Laporte's decision to advertise diamonds as the "edge" that pushed him away. The hosts discuss the purity of the ad-free podcasting paradigm and the "knighthood" goals of their producers.

dr. nenninger· leo laporte· twit· advertising· diamonds

34:15 Air Schneider thanks us. Thank you. Dr. Nenninger's Natural... let me spread this out a little bit. What is it? I forgot what Nenninger's... Natural Medicine. Right. Okay. Dr. Nenninger's Natural Medicine. He's a patron. He comes back a lot to support the show. He comes back a lot. Port Jefferson, New York 222222. Please keep it simple. I'm really starting to believe that your paradigm will prevail in podcasting. I was a big twit listener, I even own a big brick, but got pushed over the edge when Leo started advertising diamonds. I've never heard this. I've never heard the diamonds. I don't think he's doing it anymore. I listen to podcasts to avoid commercials in the interest of value for value. I'm working on a knighthood this year. Can you have BK Jr.

34:56 Burger King jr. Put out his abacus and let me know how close I am we can do that I think the donation is four or five four or five something PS Please tell your listeners It's much easier to actually and actually fun to listen to the donation section when you donate that we want to remind people that it is fun You get your name mentioned we talk about you. We say things and yeah, we we do people for you We do have a plug for dr. Nenninger's natural medicine. Mm-hmm. And finally, this is a wild one and Oh, this is our... I know who this is. Moiz Khan in Pakistan? This is our Pakistani producer who went to try and visit the Osama Bin Laden compound. Oh, right, right, right. I have an update from him. Yeah, okay, you get the update. Let me just give him his credit for $200. He got passed. He got passed.

CHAPTER 16 / 52 Discussion

Moiz Khan Update on Bin Laden Compound

Pakistani producer Moiz Khan provides an update on his attempt to visit the Osama Bin Laden compound in Abbottabad. He reports tight military security and shares local rumors about Pakistani military collusion during the raid. Khan describes the compound as a "dump" and mentions that the crashed stealth helicopter was allegedly examined by Chinese officials.

osama bin laden· abbottabad· pakistan· moiz khan· stealth helicopter

35:44 Pakistan's lame internet and power issues and finally got into the system and He so what's what's his update? How did he do? Okay, let's see a bada bad small city about 200,000 residents Unfortunately wasn't able to get very close to OBL's compound compounders under tight military security Pakistani security their checkpoints all around the area I did however check in on four square win Let's hope I don't get a free vacation to get mo on my return to canadia and then he says Because he actually took a look at it Hold on. Let me just it's a very long note I did put it in the show notes at three seven three dot na show notes comm so you can check it out and

36:36 My cousin mentioned after the OBL incident people were saying the Pakistani military police were going door-to-door the night of the incident telling people to shut their lights off prior to the termination of OBL. Not sure what it means. Possible collusion he thinks with the military. My uncle mentioned that the stealth helicopter was examined by the Chinese beforehand and to anyone else as well. And he said, well what he does say here is basically the place is a dump. He says, it's a crappy dump. He says my uncle lives in a nicer house than that place. He says it's a dump. He says I can't believe that anyone was living there at all. It's a big crappy dump. Anyway, he's gonna keep the updates coming. It's fun. That's interesting to know because we had some suspicions about the collusion that took place because there wasn't enough of a fuss made about the entry into Pakistan airspace and yeah, the military, turn off your lights so there's one place is you know,

37:34 We need that kind of help to even find the place. That's great. Yeah, exactly. Turn off your lights so that the target is easy. It's dark, so we need a light. Oh, there it is. With all their stealth radars, super technology, they couldn't find it in the dark. And I'll tell you, by the way, it's hard when you're flying helicopters, which I do. It's hard to find something during the day. You'd be amazed how complicated it is to find a spot, even like a well-marked landing spot. It's tough sometimes. Anyway, thank you very much moist. That's very cool. Yeah, we want to thank that was it? Even if associate executive producers remind me to go to the vorac org slash na channel Dvorak comm slash na no agenda nation calm and no agenda show calm you can find a donation button on both those sites if you can't get to the main site org slash and a and then someone sent me this why because donating is

CHAPTER 17 / 52 Discussion

SOPA and PIPA Legislative Analysis

Adam Curry presents his research on the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA). He argues that PIPA is 75% identical to SOPA and that both bills focus on punitive measures—such as DNS blocking and cutting off payment systems—rather than creating new laws. He references the 1946 Lanham Act to explain how these bills leverage existing trademark and copyright law.

sopa· pipa· lanham act· dns blocking· intellectual property

38:35 The love part didn't come out too good. No, no, no, we need some better jingles for the donating it Mickey is way into this and she's you guys donating his love. Yes. She says you guys just aren't doing it, right? She said she say to do she says why don't you say thank you for the love? Oh, he could do that, too I think that we should try that. Hey at this point. I'll try anything. Thank you. So well, you're trying guy. Thank you. So, um, thank you for the love. Thank you for the love. I Anyway, we have no PR associates today, so the only other thing I'd like to do is just remind everybody there is one thing you can do is go out and propagate our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Smee. Hey, I read the bills. You read the bills? I have some questions. You want to talk about SOPA, Protect IP for a second? Go for it. So I read these two bills as I promised.

39:49 The stop online piracy act and the intellectual property No protect international intellectual property act people right House and Senate respectively right and because you asserted on the previous show according to your insider some lobbyists you speak to by the way Don't lobbyists have a lot of money shouldn't they be donating. That's a good point. Yeah. Thank you I That these are basically identical and you asserted that the whole idea is to focus on SOPA get that thrown out and then PIPA will pass so you are correct in a couple of things first of all PIPA is word-for-word the same as 70 I calculate 75% of SOPA

40:40 Word for word it is exactly the same language and what this language entails and here's where I have a couple questions Is the it's it does it's not actually And this is why I don't understand it It's not actually saying here's the law. It's saying, here's the law over here that we wrote many, many years ago, including the Lanham Act, which was started in 1946. This is about customers being potentially confused. So as an example, when I registered MTV.com and left MTV, MTV sued me under the Lanham Act saying that it could be deemed as confusing

41:22 To forget the fact that MTV had given it to me and said, go ahead. We want the AOL keyword. We think that's much more exciting. I had it in writing, too. It doesn't matter. It could be deemed confusing to consumers. And the lawsuit between MTV Networks and Mr. Curry has been set off court. Neither party has made a vote of comment. So it's not about that and then it goes into You know other law about intellectual property theft it literally refers to Existing law so there's it doesn't say anything about you can't do this. You can't do that what this what these both of these acts are about is about the punishment of

42:08 For breaking those laws and this is what I don't understand and maybe I'm just because I don't know if that then comes into statutory law Category and I've been trying to look it up, but I figured I'd ask our resident law scholar about this So in both acts that are the identical piece the penalty for breaking these laws that have been on the books for a long long time is basically removing you from the DNS system, forbidding online payment systems to work with you and forbidding

42:48 advertising companies to advertise with you and forbidding search engines to Display links to you. So these are these are punitive measures. These are penalties. This is not actual law Then on the SOPA side the stuff that is not in protect IP goes into fake medicine fake military parts etc, and they have one little addition which is streaming and But there again, it's all about the penalties, which are quite stiff by the way. We're talking $2 million fines, $5 million fines, 30 years in jail. The thing that I don't understand is this is not about saying what you can and can't do. This is not about a rule. This is about the sanctions that are put on you if you break the rule.

CHAPTER 18 / 52 Discussion

Law Enforcement and the Burden of Investigation

The hosts discuss the motivations behind SOPA and PIPA, suggesting that law enforcement agencies prefer automated "DNS poisoning" over traditional, labor-intensive investigations. Curry recounts a conversation with an FBI agent from the 1990s to illustrate the long-standing desire for built-in monitoring and enforcement mechanisms in consumer electronics.

fbi· law enforcement· dns poisoning· internet regulation· judicial system

43:40 I don't understand, isn't that the job of the judicial system? Well, laws can have, yeah, well eventually the judicial system will say this is bogus and they can throw the whole thing out. But the... The laws can often and mostly have enforcement information written within the law as guidance and also penalty information written in the law as guidance. Well this is not guidance, this is actual like here's what happens if you break it.

44:17 The law says nothing about... It literally, it does not say you can't do this or that. It says if you break these laws over here and it points to well-established documents. You know, the Lanham Act, as I said, 1946, it does keep getting updated. So it's well-established. All of this stuff, you know, copy... It's funny, at one point it even speaks about you can't have tags or badges that represent a brand if they're fake. So you can't even you can't traffic in those so if I have like a bunch if I have like a pocket full of fake badges that say Chanel I can get a million dollar fine and go to jail for a minimum of ten years Just for the badge just for the badges not even the products. It's essentially the little logos Right now so in other words if I take my what about if you take a

45:16 You have an Armani suit and you take and you un-sew the little tag inside that says Armani and put it on another suit. If I was carrying that tag around... Oh no, that would be totally punishable by law. You can't do that. But it's more about the trafficking in it. So if you do that as an individual, it's not a big deal. I find that just interesting because the whole discussion is really about what should the penalties be. And by the way, everything I read online tells me that most people have not actually taken the time to read the legislation, to read what it's about.

45:58 They really haven't taken that time. Really? Let me write this down as a shocking observation of the day. Shocking moment. Yes. Because people are like, Sopa's wrong, man. Well, Sopa really isn't wrong because you shouldn't be stealing stuff and you shouldn't be falsifying stuff and you shouldn't be selling fake medicine. I mean, I agree with all that, but this is about the penalty. And essentially, of course, what's wrong about this is, well, Since we can't go catch you under these existing laws, since we can't find you or it's just too much hassle, essentially. The second part is the accurate. This is another example of law enforcement hoping that through some other mechanism someone else can do their job for them. I remember talking to one of the FBI guys back in the mid-90s when I had this radio talk show

CHAPTER 20 / 52 Discussion

Reddit Blackout and the OPEN Act

The hosts discuss the planned January 18th internet blackout by Reddit and other sites to protest SOPA. They characterize the move as a PR stunt by Reddit's parent company, Condé Nast. They also introduce the OPEN Act, sponsored by Representative Darrell Issa, as a potential "double switch" or alternative that may be just as onerous as the bills it seeks to replace.

reddit· condé nast· darrell issa· open act· internet blackout

48:22 Thanks for interrupting me. Sorry, the FBI guy who... Okay, so the FBI guy's moaning and groaning and I said, wait, you can do this if you put some effort into your law enforcement. It's obvious that law enforcement people would love nothing better than to sit at the donut shop doing, no offense to you police out there, to sit at the donut shop doing nothing and letting something else, some machine or some, let, find some other way to catch these criminals. It's too much work to actually go through the rigmarole of actually doing research, investigating, being in the field. It's not exciting. It's not exciting. We want to teach guys how to make bombs and then string them along for months and then pop it open like we've got a terrorist. That's much more exciting. Who the hell wants to deal with this crap? Yeah, who the hell wants to actually catch criminals?

49:18 The old-fashioned way they don't want to do it. It's too much work. So the so the idea is that they remove your your entries from the DNS system, which of course is it's a that's technically it's a Not only is it a dumb idea a bad idea, but it's also easily circumvented. We'll just create a new DNS and we have our own no agenda DNS, you know, so it's it but it says it'll remove it from the non authoritative server so essentially they just poison the DNS which is kind of like introducing a virus into the internet which isn't is a bad idea. This other stuff though and this is where it gets kind of interesting when you have Reddit by the way Reddit is owned by a huge publishing company

50:07 They're owned by, who does all those magazines in New York, John? You know the publisher, The Woman. I do? Yeah. I'll look it up. Reddit owned by, hold on, it's owned by Condé Nast. Oh, well that's future media. Okay, the condom sorry advanced publication publications, and they're not as aggressively interesting as no, but so they're going to go dark on the 18th and the reason why they're doing that why it's exactly the reason why they're doing that is because Daryl Issa

50:47 We'll have an oversight hearing on, as they say from their own website, DNS and search engine blocking. And speaking at this hearing, which will be fun to watch, will be, let's see, Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of Reddit. And so they're going to stream that live, which to me is just all they're doing is PR. It's a PR move for themselves. They'll have a guy from Rackspace and then a couple of other douchebags. But this whole, you know, the meme keeps propagating about, well, you know, Facebook and Google and Amazon, they should go dark. We should go, we'll show them, we'll show them the internet, we'll die overnight if they turn dark!

51:33 No it wouldn't. Newsflash, newsflash. It would not. Yeah, get a clue. Boneheads. That'd be great if Facebook went dark and stayed that way. These guys are all in on the game and they all love it. They love it. They absolutely love it. And the only way to do it is to vote people out. Fire them. Alright, well let's take a look at this possibly being a double switch a double double cross. Okay? So we have soap as a scam. It's just a smoke screen for the other one which is Pippa which means DNS advertising payments and Search engine those are the four things that will be punished and plus a few additional little items like the

CHAPTER 21 / 52 Discussion

Legislative Research and Host Banter

Adam Curry commits to reading the OPEN Act before the next show to determine if it is truly a better alternative to SOPA and PIPA. The hosts joke about the unglamorous nature of reading federal bills and how it affects their personal lives. Dvorak expresses his appreciation for Curry's willingness to perform this "nutty" level of research.

open act· legislative research· adam curry· john c. dvorak· bill reading

52:25 recording. No, no, no, that's in SOPA. Okay, well they'll fix that eventually. So what if this is like, let's make it more complicated. It's unlikely to be this complicated, but let's make it so. We got an hour to kill, why not? The first one is a smoke screen for PIPA, but PIPA is a smoke screen for OPEN, the OPEN Act. Which is that which goes right back to Darrell Issa. He's promoting this net you haven't read that yeah No, no the idea are you giving me homework teach is what it sounds like Okay, the open act is flawed, but still better than sopa says for now. Thanks John so now I have this is this is his bill okay, and the lobbyists in Washington

53:13 all there is, here's what they're thinking, I'm just gonna be a kind of channel one of these lobbyists and it's like oh this is terrible this SOPA thing is gonna kill us we got it you know I know what they're doing too they're gonna take this they're gonna take SOPA and then it's a smoke screen for PIPA and then PIPA they got to get rid of it I know what we're gonna do but you know Darrell Issa he hasn't got anything perfect but he's got something called the Open Act maybe that would be okay and they're gonna like be so worn out by these other two things that the open act which may be more onerous for all we know because all I know is that it's better. Says who? I will know on Sunday. On Sunday we'll know? I'll read the open act. This is what I do so you don't have to. Even you don't have to, John. I know and boy you can believe that I am so appreciative. I know you are. Yes.

54:05 I can't stand these things. After the show John goes... You have to be kind of a... You have to be like Ron Paul Nutty. Yeah, exactly. I put on my little tinfoil hat and I read bills. And you know what? It doesn't get me laid a lot. You know, if you got a stylish tinfoil hat... No, I'm saying reading these acts. Oh yeah, well that's right. Mickey's like, are you coming to bed? You know, she's like walking around in sexy clothes and she's like, negligee. Hey honey, you coming to bed? Hold on a second honey, I just have to cross-reference US Act 374, Article 5b-2. I'll be right there. And the funny thing is that nowadays we have the opportunity to

CHAPTER 22 / 52 Discussion

Paraphilias and Psychological Stress in Authority

The hosts discuss the term "paraphilias" in the context of recent news stories involving authority figures, including U.S. Marines allegedly urinating on Taliban corpses and Pennsylvania state troopers accused of similar behavior toward a prisoner. They theorize that such deviant behavior is a symptom of extreme psychological stress and a loss of control among those in positions of power.

paraphilias· marines· psychological stress· authority· deviance

54:50 Really fine-tooth comb these acts because all the references are online So you do for us reference the correct cuz they put all kinds of weird stuff in these bills You know, they were there, you know, like the one where now you can have sex in the military with animals I mean, how does that even get in there? All right. Well that brings us to another topic something else I've been looking up because There's a term that I want to introduce and let me just see if I can find this term paraphilias. Paraphilias? Paraphilias. P-A-R-A philias or P-A-R? P-A-R-A philias. P-A-R-A philias. Paraphilias. And this is the the act of urinating on people

55:55 Oh, well, I guess which brings up a news topic, a nothing to see here moment. Oh, hold on, let me see. Don't look over here. Nothing to see here. Oh, look at that. And I put it on the blog, for people out there, we'll get to it in a second, we'll tell you what it is. Apparently four Marines not only took a leak on a bunch of dead Taliban, but for some reason that just always baffles me, videotaped it and someone posted it on YouTube. So there was another news story which didn't get as much play. A Western Pennsylvania woman

56:37 claimed state troopers pepper-sprayed her and later urinated on her while she was shackled hand and foot. And so there is a disease going on. What the hell's going on? Paraphilias, this is a disease. And you know most sexual frustration, most sexual frustrations come from enormous psychological stress because there is no other logical explanation for this type of behavior. And I think we're going to see more and more people in authority, people in high positions, and low, but positions of authority, resorting to this behavior because they know that they are so out of control in what they're doing and what they're actually told and expected to do. And the only way they can let go of this frustration is to pee on somebody.

57:36 And there's an actual term for it, paraphilias. Well, paraphilias is actually a more broad based term. It's one element of this. Hold on, hold on. Paraphilia not otherwise specified is exactly what I'm speaking about. That is the category which covers paraphilias not falling into the already named diagnosis, such as those involving dead people, urine, feces, enemas and obscene phone calls. Also vomit, asphyxia, murder. Yep. There's a whole bunch of this, this list under paraphilias plural in Wikipedia is frightening.

58:12 But it says the article's list of paraphilias, paraphilia being a biomedical term used to describe sexual arousal to object situations or individuals that are not part of the normative stimulations. Now there is a difference between people who just get off on being peed on and peeing on people, but if you really read the documentation, and I went a little further than the wiki page if you don't mind, that's where you come into the paraphilia not otherwise specified, which is a diagnosed psychological disorder. And this stems from people being under severe psychological duress. It's all in the show notes, 373.nashownotes.com. When was psychological duress are under in Pennsylvania, not to mention Penn State? Enough said, perhaps. You know, but there's cops in general, I think, under are under huge psychological duress.

CHAPTER 23 / 52 Discussion

Marine Video Authenticity and Social Decay

The discussion continues regarding the video of individuals in military gear. Dvorak suggests the individuals might be contractors rather than Marines, potentially part of a "hit job" on a specific firm. They broaden the topic to discuss the general moral and educational decay of the United States, touching on the commercialization of the university system.

marines· camp lejeune· contractors· sparta· social moral

59:08 So this I think we're gonna see a lot. This is a meme. We're gonna see a lot more of this This whole Marines thing. I'm not even convinced. They're Marines I'm I'm thinking that it's probably Contractors and this may be a hit job on one of the contract outfits that someone's gonna get exposed and they'll lose their contracts There is still no definite Judgment that these were US Marines. Well, they can easily look into it because on the original posting it was specific scout sniper team four with the 3rd battalion 2nd Marines out of Camp Lejeune. I think that would be kind of a right start. Okay, interesting. But we'll see. We'll see how it gets spun. But the whole thing is disturbing.

59:58 And I think it is a part of paraphilias. There's something really weird going on. Yeah, well that's because the whole country is... you can't be... we're not... the country's psychological makeup is not to be Sparta. Throw him to the lions, I say! I mean we have like the education systems in the tank. We're educating more foreign nationals than we're educating our own citizens for because you know you can make more money off of them. We've become a, I mean capitalism run amok in many ways in that regard. It's the moral

CHAPTER 24 / 52 Discussion

Police Presence in Austin Schools

Adam Curry reports on a story from The Guardian regarding police patrolling schools in Austin, Texas. The report claims that hundreds of thousands of misdemeanor tickets are issued to children as young as six for minor offenses like being late or wearing inappropriate clothing. The hosts blame Governor Rick Perry's policies for the "Nazi-like" atmosphere in the state's education system.

austin texas· school police· misdemeanors· rick perry· the guardian

1:00:36 I mean we have all these Christian characters, we have Tim Tebow who has to thank Jesus every two seconds and it's like, why? I mean whatever the football player has been like that and then we all, everyone loves the guy. I mean there's a bunch of, there's the whole society, the whole culture seems to be completely screwed up. There's something going on in Austin right here in my backyard which I had to find out about through the British press so I have to look into it to see if it's actually true but I guess it is. In Austin, Texas they have cops patrolling the schools. Oh, yeah in fact in 2010 according to this report police gave close to 300,000 classy misdemeanor tickets to children as young as six for offenses in and out of school resulting in fines community service and even in some cases prison time and

1:01:26 And this is for like being late, throwing a spitball, possessing cigarettes, wearing inappropriate clothing, whatever that means. And they have cops! I've got to look into this. This is actually a breaking story. I think it's already come over here, that story, and it's all over the place. I've been reading about it. And it's like, what? I know, I think it broke in The Guardian or something. Yeah, The Guardian. The Guardian paper. But now it's like everywhere. But I've never heard of that. And it seems so contra... You know, I know people that are in Texas and... Texas is one of the big promoters of loading the kids up on Ritalin.

1:02:12 Yeah, well I think it's all Perry. I think Perry is the one that has put all this stuff in place. It could be. He looks like a Nazi. He does. He acts like one too. Right. There he did it. End of show. Just say Hitler and we're done. I'm resisting. You already did. You just said it. Oh boy. I brought him up. I brought him up. I'm sorry. No, everyone I talk to here hates Perry. They just hate him. They really did. Why did they vote him in then? How about that? Well, Austin, I'm talking about Austin, not Texas. No, most of Texas hates him. I don't know that. I live in Austin, so I don't know if most of Texas hates him. Just like France and Paris, the Austonians are totally, you know, alien to everybody else. Yeah, that's quite possibly true. Anyway, that's...

CHAPTER 25 / 52 Discussion

TSA Blog and the Top 10 Catches of 2011

The hosts critique the TSA's "Blogger Bob" and the agency's list of top 10 "good catches" for 2011. They point out that the list includes snakes, turtles, and stun guns, but notably lacks any actual terrorists. They mock the agency's transparency and its expansion into monitoring train and subway stations with "naked body scanners."

tsa· blogger bob· airport security· terrorism· contraband

1:03:04 Just disturbed. I'm looking into that. I want to get more, but I know lots of people here who have kids and I want to find out if this is really happening in their schools and why they're standing for it. Why do they take it? Speaking of Gitmo, I'm very disappointed. I mean, I'm really, really, really hurt by this privacy compliance review issued by Department of Homeland Security. Yeah. They have a list of popular websites they monitor. We're not on the list. They're not monitoring, they listen, they don't monitor. We must have some TSA people listening to the show. Yeah, well okay here's one for you TSA people. So blogger Bob...

1:03:52 I love reading the TSA blog because... Oh, that blogger Bob is the... he's like Baghdad Bob. Yeah, so he... He's full of crap. He posts something and then you get like a hundred comments of people saying you're an a-hole and they just leave it there. It's very entertaining. I know, you'd think that they'd have enough moxie to monitor or moderate is the word their own website. No, I think it's very smart because they can say, hey, we're transparent. We let everyone comment. We don't care, but we let everyone comment. So you have the top 10 good catches of 2011. Oh, please. Let's see. These are the guys they caught at the border or getting on an airplane. No, no, no. That's the whole interesting thing. There's no terrorists they caught, but they caught

1:04:39 Snakes, turtles, birds, uh, a su- You're not even supposed to be looking for that stuff! Yeah, but you can't- yeah, what the pfft, are you kidding me? Let's see... Stun gun desig- disguised as a smartphone, a flare gun, two throwing knives, a loaded three, uh, .38 caliber pistol, Small chunks of C4 explosives. Old crap. But nowhere do they have terrorists. Where's the terrorist that the TSA caught? Where's the actual terrorist? Well, that one TSA said there was three a day at his spot. There should be thousands of them. Actual terrorists.

CHAPTER 26 / 52 Discussion

Theft of the Giant Dutch Wooden Shoe

In a "Real News" segment, the hosts report on the theft of a 13-foot, two-ton giant wooden shoe from a tourist landmark in Holland. The thieves reportedly sent an email promising to return the shoe after the mid-February Carnival. Dvorak mocks the police's inability to trace the email and the general absurdity of the tourist attraction.

holland· wooden shoe· theft· carnival· tourism

1:05:19 Where are the thousands of terrorists that they're catching every day? I'm sure they're there, John. And then they're going to expand too. Our actress Tonya here over in the Bay Area says she's spotted TSA now nosing around and hanging around the BART stations. Oh yeah. Oh, well we know that there's a directive that trains, including subways, it's all very, very... And they've been walking through these things, the monitors and the different scanners. Naked body scanners. Hold on a second. Here we go. And now, back to Real News. I just got a hotline from the program director. We have to do some real news. You ready? Yeah, go for it. You've been to Gitmo Nation Lowlands. Yeah. Have you ever been to the shoe making, the wooden shoe making factory? No, I haven't. I don't think. Because I'd like to go to those kinds of things. I'm surprised. I'm surprised because you would not, this is a famous landmark. I think I've been to the town.

1:06:20 Mmm. Well if you were in the town they it's they have a shoe a 13-foot giant wooden show I didn't see the 13-foot shoe and all tourists go to this place watch some stupid wooden shoes being made of course immediately buying you know a $50 pair of shoes But they all get there just google it giant wooden shoe Holland and look at the pictures and everyone puts their kids in the shoe and like oh, that's so cool I'm in the shoe this thing weighs two tons and But someone stole it. What? Someone stole the giant Dutch wooden shoe. And then it gets better. They received an email and someone said, we'll return it back to you after carnival in mid-February. And police failed to trace the email. Really? If they can't even find the guy who stole the wooden shoe, the giant wooden shoe,

1:07:21 Do you see this thing? The shoes, yeah, but it's not that big. It's the size of a small boat. Yeah, but it's a giant shoe. It's 13 feet. It's huge. Yeah, I was thinking it would be more like a you know the 130 feet some really big thing shows you how dumb tourists are because they go this place and yeah, and they're all if you go into a giant wooden shoe Holland and you click on images on Google on the Google you see nothing but pictures of people standing in the shoe Like it was like they run a sled and it's picture after picture because I guess everybody who goes there takes a picture of somebody in the shoe

CHAPTER 27 / 52 Discussion

500 Euro Note Ban Prediction

Adam Curry revisits a prediction from his "Red Book" regarding the potential banning of 500 Euro notes. He cites a recent BBC report suggesting that these high-denomination bills are primarily used by organized crime for money laundering. Curry argues that banning the notes is a bookkeeping trick to shore up European bank balance sheets.

500 euro note· money laundering· bbc· red book· currency ban

1:08:52 Oh boy. Hey, Redbook, Redbook, Redbook. Okay, hang on a second. I'm saving some photos from this. I feel a Dvorak dot org slash blog posting coming on. Okay, Redbook. Okay, Redbook. Do you have an entry in the Redbook regarding the 500 euro notes? I think that predates the Red Book. No, it does not. No, because I remember quite distinctly this is a recent... So do you have any idea of the date that this prediction was made? What were you saying? Where's the other Red Book? What the heck happened to it? Oh, wait a minute. Don't tell me you've lost the Red Book. This is the old Red Book. I'm on a new Red Book. Well, you've got... What the point is having a Red Book if you don't have it near you? It is near me. I'm holding it in my hand right now. It was underneath some papers.

1:09:46 I think I can have it here. Let me see if I can find the... I date the entry so if you got just within give me a month a month any month December I think December of what just this last December? I believe so yeah Yeah, I believe so. I'm looking at the show notes right now. See if I can find it missiles I'm a pulling missiles and looking how that was missiles EMP on Iran that's one of your predictions Ron Paul would do third party you okay listen here here's what I was talking about I predicted that they would pull 500 euro notes out of circulation to be able to put that trillions of euros back onto the balance sheet by saying 500 euro bills are no longer valid because

1:10:35 because they're only used by criminals and... Yeah, you did discuss this but I don't remember it being an overt prediction. I don't know that I have it. Okay. Well, this news report... I'm looking, I'm looking. This news report popped up on the BBC just yesterday. 500 euros are the favoured banknotes for criminals. In one cigarette packet, you can hide 20,000 euros in one go. Unbelievable! The illegal cash disappears from view and once it's concealed, It's smuggled abroad.

1:11:33 I think it was 800 billion euros or something. Oh no, this is a bookkeeping. To assume that this sort of bookkeeping trickery is going to be done, I'm a little skeptical. For one thing, if they made them illegal, there'll be some old ladies that have them and they're going to have to go to the bank and turn them in. And you're assuming that the criminals aren't going to do that? Is that what you're saying? Here's the BBC report. Let me see, I saw the word banning. Will banning the sale of 500 note in the UK do any good? They're just bringing it up. They're bringing it up. This is a real movement. This is a real movement. After eight months of rigorous analysis of currency trading in the UK, the Serious Organized Crime Agency, who are more serious than the regular Organized Crime Agency, have established the 500 euro note is at the heart of money laundering. Oh, brother. Mm-hmm.

1:12:36 I'm trying to think there's a there's a somewhere there's a I'll put it in the show notes somewhere there is a movement who have Who actually are advocating this say hey? This is how we how we shore up our balance sheet is to just ban no one has 500 no one has 500 euro notes It's just look at it. Look at all the all the links for 500 euro note ban. Okay tons of notes you watch and It's coming. It's coming right now. I was just amazed that it came so fast after we talked about it. I thought I'd put it in the red book, but I could be wrong. I don't have it. All right, your go. I have to bring up the page back. Sorry. You're eating, aren't you? No. So is that a good product? It's a grapefruit. Oh man, I had a grapefruit this morning. Why do you eat grapefruits? I like to eat grapefruits during the show because it keeps me sour.

CHAPTER 28 / 52 Discussion

News from China and Language Subtitles

The hosts experiment with a new "News from China" segment, featuring a report on a Ford SUV recall. Dvorak proposes a movement to require English subtitles for all non-English broadcasts on public airwaves. They also discuss Jon Huntsman's use of Chinese during his campaign and the lack of media translation for his remarks.

china· ford recall· subtitles· fcc· jon huntsman

1:13:39 We have a grapefruit every single morning. It'll keep the cancer away. It's very good for you. Alright, let's see what we've got here. That's kind of interesting. I've decided maybe we should have a new segment on the show. I want people to react and tell us whether we should do it or not. I'm not sure if you like it, but I'm thinking news from China because we're trying to be more international. So I think we should play news from China. Have a clip. Okay. Let me just grab your news from China. Ford announced today that it will repair 450,000 7-seater and SUVs. The affected are the 3-star and Mercury, which were produced in 2004 and 2005. The 7-seater and the Escape SUV from 2001 and 2002. Ford said that the SUV's braking system may cause a leak and cause a spark near the wires.

1:14:36 I can't believe sale of SUVs is doing so well. It was about the recall. So I think we should do it. Should we do a Chinese news thing? Yes, I think that's a very good idea so we can appeal to a broader audience. But it has to be news from China, not China, Chiner. News from China. So let's do a practice. And now, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for news from China. I think it would work. I think it's a good idea. It might. Now, I've had a pet peeve about this for some time because people always, oh you should have the English language should be the official language of the country and all the rest. I think that's even less important than what I have to say which is

1:15:23 All, anything that goes over the public airways, not cable, but the public airways should have, if it's not in English, should by law have subtitles. I don't think, who knows what these people are saying. Not the Chinese so much. There's a lot of Chinese around here. Chiners. The Chiners. But the point is is that I there's some you know sometimes they're speaking Thai or some dialect of Cambodian and it's just like I would like to know what they're talking about. Well, I think that's a fine a fine idea. I think so and And you will speak to the FCC about enforcing this? I'm gonna start I'm gonna start a movement. Tell me what this guy's saying. He said you're a butthead I think. To date I have not seen one single person

1:16:13 on a news media anywhere who can actually tell me what Jon Huntsman said. He said it on the, when he said it, when he made that comment. No he didn't. Yeah, he did. He said something like this is interesting times we live in or something like that. It was some crazy little Chinese saying. Now that we have Chinese speakers out there they can tell us, send us a note, send us an email, jondvorik.org and I'll put it on the show. I'm surprised we haven't Yeah, not to mention it, it's kind of weird that you'd have this guy speaking Chinese up there and they're like, well there you go, maybe just mumble grumble, you know, it's like no, nothing. Chat to Chatterpotter, hey, what's going on with my thing here? Oh boy. Well talking about that, I've got a Ron Paul clip, not to go backwards, but Ron Paul event cutoff, this is a classic, Ron Paul event cutoff, this is what you get from Ron Paul. I really don't have to introduce my wife, I think you know my wife Carol.

CHAPTER 29 / 52 Discussion

C-SPAN Ron Paul Feed Cut and Jon Huntsman Insincerity

The hosts highlight an incident where C-SPAN's live feed of a Ron Paul event was cut off just as he was introducing his family, only to be replaced by coverage of Jon Huntsman. They question how professional networks struggle with streaming while independent podcasters succeed. Dvorak begins a "rant" on Huntsman's perceived insincerity.

c-span· ron paul· jon huntsman· media censorship· live streaming

1:17:16 And we have a few other members of the family here. We have a daughter-in-law, Peggy, and... Yeah! We have Lisa, Linda, Linda... With apologies we have lost our signal from the wrong very hard to get that back What was this what? Seaspan And they were streaming over some Verizon connection because the Verizon logo comes up as a how is it possible that Leo Laporte can be on? streaming live from CES 24 7

1:17:56 yet C-SPAN can't seem to get a Ron Paul event streamed live. How is this even... Oh really how coincidental we had to cut to Henschman. John Henschman that's his new name. John Henschman really. Yeah it's unbelievable. Hey I read a book for us. Oh, okay, well do that now. I should mention Huntsman. I do have a little rant. Go ahead on Huntsman. Henchman. Henchman. His name is Henchman from now on. I've concluded, by the way, if you see him and his Stamford wife, oh my God. And this guy is so insincere. I have three little clips and one of them just really earmarks his unbelievable insincerity. Because I was actually mocking this

CHAPTER 30 / 52 Discussion

Jon Huntsman's "Free Ponies" Speech and Third Place Victory

The hosts mock Jon Huntsman's New Hampshire concession speech, where he acted as though he had won despite finishing third. They critique his lack of emotion and "dead fish" delivery, specifically mocking his promises of jobs and "free ponies" for veterans. They characterize Huntsman as a "stooge" and an insincere political actor.

jon huntsman· new hampshire· election speech· insincerity· political theater

1:18:46 He says, I'll be darned. I mean he has no emotion. The guy is the dead fish. Play the start with I'll be darned. And I'll be darned if we're going to allow the men and women to come from the theaters of combat, the front lines, to the unemployment lines. That's not going to happen. Those men and women who have worn the uniform of the United States of America in the theater of combat are going to come home to dignity and respect.

1:19:23 and to admiration and they're gonna come home to jobs and opportunity as well and free ponies! Unbelievable, I mean how is he gonna do all this? The guy's a... anyways totally emotionalist and now play... and by the way after he... this was his concession speech they had confetti like he wanted the damn thing. Good job! Free ponies! Free ponies! Huntsman loves the state another insincere kind... you know he... When you hear the third little bit that I have here, J.C. Buzzkill Jr. came up with the absolute explanation for this crazy talk that he has. Playa Huntsman loves the state. And they're going to do the same thing for this nation that the greatest generation did so many decades ago.

1:20:13 They rebuilt this nation. They pulled this nation up by the bootstraps and there's another greatest generation coming up. You know the people I'm talking about, they're in your families, they're in our neighborhoods, we love them all and they're gonna do what earlier generations did. They're gonna help us rebuild this nation. They're gonna help us make it the very best it possibly can be. Ladies and gentlemen, I love this state. Be all that you can be. So now I'm gonna play part three which is another short clip but we're listening to this and JC buzzkill jr. says he only he wrote one speech he wrote this he wrote this is his victory speech he had no alternative speech so he just went with this

1:21:03 This state, we have worked hard and diligently. We have pounded the pavement. We have shaken hands. We have had conversations. We have won people over person by person. This is the old way to get politics done in New Hampshire. And my confidence in this system is reborn because of the people in New Hampshire. Because they just turn out at these town hall meetings, nobody forces them, nobody tells them they have to do it. It's because they believe in a better tomorrow for the United States of America. They believe in John Huntsman! And they thank him! Mic check!

1:21:45 Thank you very much. And they turn out to the town hall meetings and they turn out to the house parties and they hear from the candidates and then they assimilate and they digest it all and then they render a judgment. Yeah, the judgment is you came in third. This guy's acting like he won the thing. Here's John Henchman at home. Honey, I know I gave you the best orgasm in the world. I know I know it's fantastic I could hear you moaning and groaning. I did a great job Unbelievable stooge henchman John henchman this isn't it hi darling. Thank you. Yeah, I'd love some fresh coffee. Thank you You look so hot hey. Thank you. Oh, I have a question for you at production. We have a production meeting yeah, I'm ready I

CHAPTER 31 / 52 Discussion

MeVEO Board Meeting and Schedule Conflicts

Adam Curry discusses a scheduling conflict with a MeVEO board meeting in San Francisco that overlaps with the No Agenda recording time. The hosts brainstorm ways to adjust the show's schedule, including a potential Wednesday recording, to accommodate Curry's travel and board responsibilities.

meveo· board meeting· san francisco· podcast schedule· travel

1:22:34 So I need to travel to San Francisco. There's a board meeting, a MeVEO board meeting, you know, where I help determine your future. And, but check this out. So they said, well, somewhere between the 16th and the and the 16th and the 19th. And I said, well, could you please do it earlier? Because, you know, we haven't we haven't had a real vacation. You know, we're going to go visit my buddy who has the house in Bonaire, which is great because it's a short flight from Texas down south that we can get cheap, cheap tickets, which I'd already booked. Yeah. OK. I don't need the details. So they say, well, here's what we've done. We could everyone. We've we've scheduled it as best as possible for everybody on Thursday at nine thirty a.m.

1:23:18 Thanks. Today? No, next week. But it's Thursday and they're right there in the middle of the show. Yeah, because you know... Yeah, because they look at the schedule and say, let's see, Adam, Adam... Oh, it's Friday, he's done... At 9 he starts a new agenda show, so let's schedule it for that time. Yeah, let's do it for then. Yeah. Could we do the next week's show on Wednesday morning instead of Thursday? Next week. Can you do Wednesday? I know you got a lot of stuff going on you do well the next week I Because otherwise it really screws. No actually next here's another one that that's blocked because they have an all I know an all-hands meeting I know I know At 930 and I also do the X3 we can do Wednesday night The thing I wanted to avoid is doing the show for plane. I know I wanted to avoid doing it from a hotel room That's all

CHAPTER 32 / 52 Discussion

The Obamas Book Review and PR Strategy

Adam Curry reviews the book "The Obamas" by Jodi Kantor, which he characterizes as a slick PR effort by the New York Times and the administration to humanize the First Family. He argues the book is designed to counter "reptilian" perceptions and solidify narratives about the President's background. He advises listeners not to buy the book, calling it "sickening" collusion.

the obamas· jodi kantor· michelle obama· barack obama· pr strategy

1:24:11 Oh, how about, uh, we'll talk about it. Okay, anyway, we'll talk about it. We'll announce it on Sunday. Anyway, sorry. Oh, okay. Oh, so anyway, the book. Can I talk about the book I read for everybody? You read a book for everyone, okay. Yeah, and I really hope I can get my $14.95 back from Amazon. I read the book, The Obamas. Oh yeah, this is the book you promised to read. I promised to read it for you, and it's been getting a lot of press. Here's an example, apparently Oprah's girlfriend Gail is now a great important person. I don't understand all of a sudden, because she has no skills. She sucks. She sucks at everything she does. She has a radio show on series. It's like Oprah cheap.

1:25:00 You know, it's like the off-brand Oprah. It's dumb. And she got to interview the Obamas and it's all related to the PR for this book. It doesn't really get, you know, I mean who can write about how I feel? Who, what third person can tell me how I feel? Or anybody for that matter. Here's what interests me about this. First of all, there seems to be a nice chemistry there. You've known this person for a long time. Yeah, I can, I think we should say it's no secret here at the table that we're friends. Secondly, where was the big guy while you were doing this interview? He was in the West Wing. Believe me, I asked to see him. He was unavailable. He was unavailable. Third, did she seem to you like she wanted to get some things off her chest? I think, Charlie, that is such a great question because her answer is yes.

1:25:54 That's not a great question. That's not a great question! Ah, you missed it. It was Homer. I've got to play Homer again because I'm going to turn this into a whole jingle for you. Great question. That's not a great question! So, uh... A little more low-end. Yeah. So this Obama book is getting a lot of play and I can tell you what this is. Because I mean, three pages into it I'm like, oh brother. Oh brother. This thing is designed to make the Obamas real. It glosses, I mean the way it's written and it's it's it reads kind of like a National Enquirer type of publication. It really solidifies that Obama was born in Hawaii, that they're just normal folk

1:26:51 This whole thing, it is such an... It is to help us believe that they are not the reptilians that they actually are. That they are not from outer space and that they, you know, they cloak themselves in human skin. It is completely, 100% utter... Bullshit! It is the worst book I've ever read. And what it's doing is, is it's... It's bringing into the consciousness of people that they're real people, they care about their kids.

1:27:31 His meteoric rise, you know how hard worker he is. It's just it's sickening. It is a 100% sickening but the way they promote it is so slickly done and of course this is the New York Times in collusion with the administration to publish this at this moment. You know, so you get all these stories about, you know, is she and she's she says she's not an angry black woman. I mean, it's the pulling the race card out. It is part of a huge strategy that will unfold before our very eyes. And this is just the beginning. And it is sickening. Do not repeat. Do not buy this book. You will feel cheated, as you apparently have felt.

CHAPTER 33 / 52 Discussion

Bill Daley Resignation and Jacob Lew Appointment

The hosts discuss the resignation of White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley and his replacement by Jacob Lew. They highlight Lew's background as a former executive at Citigroup and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. They characterize Lew as a "bankster" and a "technocrat" who will effectively run the country.

bill daley· jacob lew· chief of staff· citigroup· technocrat

1:28:17 It's disgusting. And then we have just before, a day before the book came out, interestingly enough, we have Bill Daley finally calling it quits as we pretty much predicted. Yeah, yeah of course. Now this shows how much disarray the administration is in. This actually I think falls under the category of... Shadow Puppet Theater! Because who's stepping in, which is what we never talk about, is Jacob Lew. Jacob Lew will be taking over as chief of staff. Chief of staff is a pretty big job, right John? Yeah, it's essentially running the country. So yeah. Who should we put in if we wanted to have someone running the country as chief of staff?

1:29:09 I don't know, tell me. CIA guy? No! Let's put in someone who used to be Chief Operating Officer of Citigroup's Alternative Investment Unit. No, a banker. A bankster. Yeah, please make sure he's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Brookings Institute. So it's happening everywhere. Not only in Euroland, but here as well. Now we have a bankster running our show. Congratulations, but the guy looks like a dweeb which is kind of good. Yeah, he's great. He looks like a- What's his- how do you spell his name? Lew, L-E-W. Which is great because people are like, eh, he's just some- What's his first name? Jacob. Jacob. He's just some douchebag. You know, it's like, eh, he's just like some bookmark. Oh, that guy. But he's not. He's a- he looks- He looks like a Hollywood agent. Well, I think he looks a little dorkier than a Hollywood agent, personally.

1:30:07 But I think it's well done is what I'd say. He graduated from Harvard, went to Georgetown Law, got his doctorate in law. Public administration professor at New York University. Has he ever had a real job? Yeah, he's just like everybody else in the Obama administration. He's never worked for a company. It's just government work. His whole background is government work. He's a technocrat is what you're saying. Yeah, he's a technocrat. There you go. This is what's wrong with this whole or just yeah, well anyway, yeah All right now one more bitch about it before one more thing I picked up Sorry, I picked up something interesting that I've had on my list for three weeks now and I keep forgetting to talk about it Okay, this is a from the from the government website for federal business opportunities You ready for it?

CHAPTER 34 / 52 Discussion

TSA Radiation Dosimeters and Cancer Clusters

Adam Curry reports on a TSA request for information regarding radiation dosimetry devices for its officers. The hosts link this to reports of body scanners being removed from Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, speculating that the agency is responding to a potential "cancer cluster" among employees exposed to the machines.

tsa· radiation· dosimeters· hartsfield airport· cancer cluster

1:30:59 The Transportation Security Administration is issuing this Sources Sought Notice, request for information to improve its understanding of the market capabilities and identify qualified vendors that are capable of providing radiation dosimetry devices to the TSA Office of Occupational Safety, Health and Environment. Interesting. Why do you think that is? Do you think that's because you get more radiation from snuggling against someone's butt than actually in the... There you go, Mickey. That's your butt has... Let me get my dosimeter because that butt's pretty close to me. So I guess... You know, somebody wrote us a note, one of our producers, telling us that they took all the body scanners out of Hartsfield in Atlanta. Oh, really?

1:31:52 I think there was, and this story that you're talking about followed that story, I mean it's not a story nobody's reported on except one of our listeners. Crazy, stupid. And I think that there was a cancer cluster. I remember seeing a report about a cancer cluster. Anyway, so if there's a cancer cluster in Hartsville, the biggest airport in the country I might add, which has tons of those machines, they pull those machines out, the next thing you know they're putting dosimeters, selling dosimeters to the agency. Excuse me, can somebody put two and two together here? Uh, one, two, three, yes! I'm gonna show my school by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab.

CHAPTER 35 / 52 Discussion

Listener Donations and Bad Karma Stories

The hosts read several donation notes, including one from Tyler Brigham in San Luis Obispo, who details a string of "bad karma" events involving a ruined $3,000 camera and a raccoon eating his girlfriend's chicken. Other donors seek karma for job hunts and travel, while the hosts provide "double shots" of karma in exchange for their financial support.

karma· donations· canon 5d· anodizer· gitmo nation

1:32:36 and not a minute too soon since I will have the ask Adam segment a new one coming up in the second half of the show Justin Hilton we want to thank him he's floating around somewheres in the morning from a drunk haiku Hilton in Gitmo Nation Kimchee I guess he's in Japan Nuclear winter truth like the warmest blanket the greatest podcast. Okay, that was garbage, but I'm drunk Thanks for all you do and thanks to whomever put together the clip of we can't wait. Yes, we can Yes, we can that was my suggestion from a few episodes ago. I donated 133 dot 33 for a podcast license

1:33:17 Or 3333 for a podcast license $100 for karma shout out for you Adam and John here's hoping the donations keep coming in strong you deserve it. Adios karma There you go. Good old Thomas Gardner, first-time donor, so he's not really good old, but Wilmington, North Carolina, great place by the way. Donation in honor of our slave Benjamin's first birthday, born one year ago today. Yeah, that's great. Thomas and Sarah. So he's worth about nine, no, 8.7 million right now. Tyler Brigham in, as in Brigham Young. Yep. San Luis Obispo.

1:33:58 California in the morning John Adam sending cash not blankets or water because I've noticed a pattern of bad karma surrounding me yikes First at work a large batch of parts that we sent to the anodizer got scraped by the anodizer. Oh, no What's an anodizer? It's the thing that put the anodizes metal puts that little coating You know they get a digital camera you got the red ones and the blue ones and those different colors on that's anodized That's what the colors Paint is what you're saying. It's not paint. It's anodized. Less than a day ago, he was paint to you. Then a day later I go out after work and my $3,000 camera rig gets hit by a nice wave at the beach, scrap, scraping or scrapping or not even scraping. My Canon 5D Mark II. Oh no, that's like an awesome camera. Yes, ug. And then on Monday one of my girlfriend's chickens gets eaten by a raccoon. What the f...

1:34:49 So I need to ask for some karma for my family Scott Susan Courtney Chris and Courtney and Chris's Fiance's Ryan and Kristen and for my girlfriend Lindsay to protect her animals screw a double shot of karma and D douchebag just double the karma how many chickens must die Stop killing the chicken stop you've got karma That will be a double. Andrew Gardner, which is no relation to Thomas Gardner I don't believe, in Avenue, Maryland, $100. I'd in the morning send Karma to a safe flight back to Gitmo Nation West on Friday, halfway to nighthood, give him a Karma. You've got Karma. By the way, Tyler's donation was $111.33. Damien Tame in Perth, the place that I've always wanted to visit. Perth, Western Australia.

CHAPTER 36 / 52 Discussion

Global Producer Updates and Anti-Cancer Karma

Donations arrive from Perth, Australia, and Amsterdam, with producers sharing stories of dangerous work environments and family battles with cancer. The hosts provide "anti-cancer karma" and discuss the "douchebag" nature of the disease. They also touch on the lack of necessity for attending the CES trade show in person.

perth australia· amsterdam· cancer· job hunt· ces

1:35:44 or John and Adam I was feeling like a douchebag since I haven't donated for a while and please give me a shot of karma. Why do I need karma? That's a great question. That's not a great question. Because Port Moresby where I work is considered to be one of the top 10 most dangerous cities in the world So avoid to avoid being shot stabbed carjacked or extorted by the police Huh sounds like corruption. Please give me a huge injection of karma. Adios mofos You've got karma you still want to visit birth well now I don't Barry in Amsterdam 99 99 apologize for not donating drunk still at work I've been on a monthly subscription for two years now But recent events forced me to up the ante on supporting the best podcast in the multiverse just like Adam my wife and I are moving to

1:36:38 down south in the very near future she's awaiting news of a transfer she asked her company to pull off me I had an interview for a dream job with a tech company last week the interview went well but they left me hanging with a since we're at CES next week don't call us will call you please send over some karma to increase our chances of a successful job hunt I hope three times the amount of 3333 will do 9999 also after fighting multiple variations of cancer over 20 years yuck last Tuesday. My wife's grandma finally had to give in. She passed away at 77. So close it off. I'd like to call out cancer as a douchebag. Keep up the amazing work. Great hair. Hope you guys win.

1:37:17 Barry from Amsterdam. Alright Barry, well here's some anti-cancer karma and some job karma. Now remember when you ask for the karma it can come in very strange ways. You may actually not get that job but you may get a better one. That's how karma seems to work. You've got karma. Good luck there. Yeah, CES please. So, um... Why aren't you at CES, you tech reporter, you? Why? I went there last year. Why aren't you? Don't you have to report on stuff? I can look. There's over-reported. There's over two reporters for each booth.

CHAPTER 37 / 52 Discussion

Workplace Bullying and the Mystery of the Grays

A donor from New York discusses workplace bullying, while another from Calgary asks Adam Curry to talk about "the Grays" (aliens). Curry notes that reports of the Grays have diminished since Art Bell left the air, suggesting they may have gone underground or given up on humanity. The segment also includes a brief appreciation for the Calgary Stampede's barrel racing.

workplace bullying· the grays· aliens· art bell· calgary stampede

1:37:54 Yeah, but it's dumb to go to it. But the babes are Jane and it's a good place to go You want to you know, just hang out at night and drink a lot of free cheap booze, sir James Briscoe and Bayshore and besides that I'd rather be doing research for our show Thank you, James Briscoe Bayshore, New York and 9899 hygiene so incensed at listening last year about your deconstruction about workplace bullying of competent people of which I am personally witnessed. I felt compelled to donate once again but I was lacking funds due to fixing my uncle's house which ended up coming to $7,500. So here's my belated donation $98.99 to complain about workplace bullying. Please give some karma to the love of my life Smita. She is richly deserves it more than I ever would but please do not give the MILF designation as amusing as it may be. I know she wouldn't like it. Nothing against you Adam.

1:38:45 Well, now I feel like hurt. Alright. Get my karma and then I'll move on. You've got karma. I think every woman likes the... I think every woman loves to be called a MILF. I disagree. Ahmed Mian in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Hey John and Adam, please don't... Well great. Good job. Don't mention my last... Well that's probably not his last name. After listening to episode 372, I had to donate. I always like it when you cover either Pakistan or Canada. We had a Pakistani that donated, which proves that the Pakistanis are more generous than the Indians. Well hold on, but he's Canadian. He's just visiting Pakistan. I know, but he's another Pakistani obviously.

1:39:24 But currently residing in Cowtown. Where is that? Where's Cowtown? That's Calgary. They have the big road. The Stampede? The Calgary Stampede? Yeah, you've been to the Stampede and I've never been to it. I have a Calgary Stampede belt buckle. It's supposed to be great. You have not lived until you've seen the barrel The barrel run when these really cute cowgirls race ponies around barrels Yeah, and they and they're hot these girls are like this super smoking hot and they and they're dressed up all cute racing It's car racing and just run and they're getting these ponies like it's just yeah exciting. I have to say I don't like all the bull riding and stuff I don't like that but the but the girls doing the barrel run. Oh man barrel racing barrel racing. They're smoking. Oh

1:40:15 Okay. Adam, I wanted to ask you if you can please talk about the greys. I have been very curious about this. Also, if you can give me some karma that will be much appreciated. As many bad things are going on in my life at the same rate of all human race, in fact, at the same rate all human race can use some karma. It's not, here's to not being a boner anymore. 66-66, keep up the good work. Okay, first of all, let me give you some karma, man. It sounds like you need some. You've got karma. Now the first rule about the grays is we don't talk about the grays. You know there have not been a lot of reports about the grays recently. I think they gave up on us. I have to be quite honest I think that

CHAPTER 38 / 52 Discussion

UN Waste in East Timor and Haiti

A donor who worked for a Christian NGO in East Timor describes the "disgusting" waste of the United Nations, contrasting the UN's brand-new 4x4 trucks with the local population's suffering. The hosts calculate that billions in donated funds for Haiti should have built hundreds of thousands of homes, yet many people remain in tents while luxury hotels are constructed instead.

united nations· east timor· haiti· ngo· corruption

1:40:57 Some other ever since art bell went off the air the grays have gone to no I think I think The great I think you're right. I think they've given up and But there is definitely some other alien race occupying Earth I just don't know which way it's not the tall blondes. I know that they I think they've just gone underground and But the greys... Alright, meanwhile, Oysten Burge in Jovik, Oppland, Norway. What do you think? 5962, love the show, give me a karma shot. Smiley face from Norway. You've got karma.

1:41:37 We'll talk about the Grays when they're cited. Frank Davis in Florence, South Carolina, 5560. Drew Larson in Green Bay, Wisconsin, home of the Green Bay Packers, 5555. Bill Hutchinson in Calgary, another Calgarian. Two Calgarians today. Well, they'll be really happy to hear us talking about their CBC today. And people like it when we talk about their country and how messed up it is. It feels good, I know, I'm telling you. Every single time we do a story about Australia, the Australians come in. Well, you know, the only people who don't really do it is the lowlands guys. The Indians. Well, Indians, we don't talk about India.

1:42:15 Well, for good reason. Double nickels on the dime from Bill. Donation verse 35th birthday. We'll put that in there. Always wanted to be a NoGen a minute man. I had a full-time volunteer with a Christian NGO for 14 years so I understand the challenge of bringing in support. Have listened for ages but my first donation as raising a family of five. Wow. The challenge for donating was in East Timor. Now we can get some information about East Timor with their organization within 12 months of independence when the UN was active there. The UN waste was disgusting, floating in hotels for their staff while the people and our volunteer staff suffered with blackouts, burned out, slashed, wrecked houses, potholes.

1:42:54 more while our organization drove a donated 15 year old station wagon the UN had a brand new 4x4 Toyota truck or trucks our organization had been working in Haiti since 1991 and for every $6,000 donated the organization a duplex house is built for two families all our staff are volunteers no one's paid hearing about the waste and disgusting use of funds donated to Haiti 2 million for a hotel what BS makes me seriously ill I try to work some of the points out that I gleaned from the no agenda show into our NGOs podcast that's nice Well, we need to hear about some of the stuff that you learned while you're floating around. That would be valuable. So I'm going to take a hold on a second. So for $4 billion, that's 4, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, divided by 6,000, 1, 2, 3, we should have been able to build 666,000 homes.

1:43:49 But strangely enough, there's still half a million people in tents and cholera-infested poop. Funny how that works. How many houses were built? None. Nice hotel, yeah. Nice Marriott. Chad Twigs in Blackfoot, Idaho. Double nickels on the dime. Drunk Donair in Gitmo Nation Potato Capital. Couldn't resist after I heard John C. Salmon. Oh, I'm old school, man. Yeah, the good job by the way. That was very funny. You did it. Glad not to be a boner anymore. Looking for a de-douching and karma for job hunt. Give him a combo there. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Hey, by the way, Leo promised to get us on Coast to Coast. Is that happening?

CHAPTER 39 / 52 Discussion

Finnish Speeding Fines and Relationship Karma

The hosts discuss the Finnish system of calculating speeding fines based on income, referencing a rumor about Linus Torvalds receiving massive fines. They also process several "de-douching" requests and provide relationship karma for listeners in Helsinki and Indiana. The segment concludes with a thank you to all "No Agenda Minute Men."

finland· speeding fines· linus torvalds· karma· donations

1:44:34 I'm working on it. It's gonna be one of those things that you know is gonna take a couple of nudges. Like that Mac O'Hare commercial. Dolly Racama in Helsinki, $55, third time donor not a boner. I desperately need karma. My three-year-old relationship ended. I don't have a job currently. I desperately need to find some coding gigs and since I don't have any income, I can drive as fast as I can in Finland. That's funny. Job karma. You've got karma. You know, I got an email from someone about that. We should remind people what he means by that reference. Yeah, so apparently if you're speeding in Finland, the fine is calculated dependent upon your income.

1:45:12 And I heard that Linus Torvalds has had like hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of fines because he's driving his race car up there, his sports car. I didn't know Linus was that rich, by the way. But yeah, it's crazy. We learned this from Wunderhelm. They got like, you know, 600 euro fine for speeding like 15 miles over the speed limit or something. You say, how much do you make? All right, slave. I'll be 600 grand, $600 euros. Zloty's, whatever you use. Whatever. Zloty's. Johnny Thompson in West Lafayette, Indiana, $50. Hi guys. I'd like to call up my mother. My mother. Wait, I think you missed Joe. Joanne Thompson as a douchebag. Oh no. Douchebag.

1:45:58 Since she hasn't donated since September and de- a de-douching for me, he needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Gotta give him a combo because he also wants some karma for his him and his fiancee Rhonda Head. We got engaged on New Year's and she's having a tough time at work now and is going back to school soon. Any help she can get would, by the way, this is going to go on forever for the next decade. These people suffering. Job karma. We're going to be doing a lot of that. Thank you guys so much for everything you do. You're a huge part of my life and have made me a better person since I started listening at the beginning. Made him a better person. Give him a karma. Oh, that's so nice.

1:46:40 You've got karma. I think you might want to add that he said I love you guys He said I love you, and you didn't read the love you part Love you guys. Hey, did you miss George Scanlon? I think you did. Did I? Yeah, I think you did. Yeah, George, okay, let's go a couple fifty. We had three $50 donations. George Scanlon, Carpentersville, Illinois. Kieran Burke in Framingham, Massachusetts. And Sir Mike Westerfield in Enderland, North Dakota. Also, Tamara Hunter in Austin, Texas, right down the street from you says, for my boyfriend, Sam Winsier's douchebag. For her boyfriend, Sam, what do you think, is Winsier?

1:47:16 Yeah, Winsier. Sam Winsier is a boyfriend of Tamara. He's a douchebag, she says. We don't know. He's listened to the show since the start, never donated while always talking about you guys. Also, karma for me to figure the relationship out. Okay. Give him the douchebag and then give her the karma. Douchebag! And here's your karma, girl. You've got karma. Maybe we should just meet up at Joe's and have a cup of coffee. Go to Joe's. And finally Tristan, Wilson, Kerrigan, and Pat DeBury in Western Australia, $50. We want to thank them and all the other people that donate even lesser amounts and we appreciate any donation for the Noah Gen, the show to keep us on the air. Because it's the sincerest form of love. So donating is love? No, it's just love. It's not even a donate. It's not like here you, here's an alm.

CHAPTER 40 / 52 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony for Sir David Oberbeck

The hosts perform a formal knighthood ceremony for David Oberbeck, pronouncing him "Sir David Oberbeck, Knight of the No Agenda Round Table." They discuss the logistics of shipping knight rings, noting that "Eric the Shill" marks the customs value as $2 to avoid international fees. They reiterate the importance of the "Value for Value" model.

knighthood· david oberbeck· eric the shill· customs· value for value

1:48:09 Here you it is. Here's a pit in a few people. We got the two buck donation. It's amazing to me that we still have people that are that have not been kicked off by PayPal. The original plan was to get two dollar donations and you know, two dollar subscriptions. We have I think one. How dumb was that? Well, you don't know because nobody does this. We're actually the pioneers of turning these podcasts into a listener supported podcast to the extreme that we do it because we took it very seriously from the beginning. We knew that we're going to provide a lot of content that was equivalent of any form of entertainment and people, but unfortunately we couldn't charge people to come to it. So we had to go in a reverse route, which means we have to do these segments and tell people and thank them individually, essentially.

1:49:01 So anyway, I want to thank everybody go to Dvorak org slash na and continue to help us out also channel to work and and no agenda nation.com and no agenda show.com and hit the donate button it would org slash and a thank you for the love. Thank you. I really mean that David David Oberman congratulates himself turning 33 on Friday the 13th. Whoops, some magic numbers there. Thomas Gardner, happy birthday to his son Benjamin who turns one today and slowly counting down his 9.2 million dollar worth as a human resource in the United States of Gitmo Nation. And Bill Hutchinson congratulates himself turning 35 also on Friday the 13th. Happy birthday on behalf of all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.

1:49:58 And then we have a knighthood, which is nice. Yay. To have a knighthood. Where's your blade? Yeah, it's coming. Okay. David, over back, please step forward and kneel! Thank you very much for finally... Donating the extra $333.33 to get to your knighthood. We highly appreciate it because it is sincerest form of love and therefore we proudly present thee with this ring and pronounce thee Sir David Oberbeck, Knight of the Noah's End Round Table. Not just the ring my friend, how about some hookers and blow, some rent boys and chardonnay, and hot pants and booze right here for you. Enjoy! I saw an email from one of our knights who received his ring. Did you see that?

1:50:47 No, tell me about it. He took a picture of the package that it comes in. I gotta say, our shill, Eric the Shill is a genius. So he sends this thing off and, because you know, we run a cheap operation. We got these rings, they're valuable of course, not just in actual monetary value, but you know, it takes quite a bit to get it. Uh, when he sends them off, he puts them in like a cheap-ass pouch and puts on it, value $2 for customs. Oh, because he shipped it overseas? Yeah, for customs. Yeah. That's what you do. Genius, I say. Genius, I love it. Value $2. Oh boy. Alright everybody, ladies and gentlemen, it is time once again to do something very important.

CHAPTER 41 / 52 Discussion

"Guess the Network" Cable TV Game

Adam Curry leads a game where Dvorak must guess the cable network based on show titles like "Dog the Bounty Hunter," "Mob Wives," and "I Cloned My Pet." The game highlights the "dumbing down" of cable television, where the History Channel and National Geographic air content unrelated to their original missions, such as "Killer Ants" and "Toddlers and Tiaras."

cable tv· history channel· tlc· national geographic· discovery channel

1:51:45 So I'm watching the cable channels off the Dish Network, they're all the same, everyone's got them. And they've all sold out. So they don't you know so the history channel instead of having you know stuff about history now They have crazy shows that have nothing to do with history or and they don't even want and then if you look there's no more Hitler Documentaries is all just John damn no more Hitler documentaries Which is pretty bad to begin with but they ask Adam today is I'm gonna name some some TV shows on the cable and And you're going to guess the network. Oh, okay. All right good. I like this start with an easy one all right Let's start with this one. This is the name of the show you tell me guess the network guess the network Aaron Burnett out front CNN Exactly so you get the hang of it. Yes, okay? What can I win?

1:52:38 You win a prize. Okay. I'm out. Let's get this get to this. I'm not gonna get too hard right away, but it's right Okay, you should be able to get all these because you can associate like the Aaron Burnett thing You know she's on CNN. It was easy. Yes the way they all are dog the bounty hunter what channel is that on that is on And no cheating no no I'm not sure I think it's ah is it Bravo I? Arts and entertainment. Ah, Annie. Okay. I'm sorry. I've gone to Bonnie Hunter is obviously an art show Well, it's arts and entertainment so it can be on a and it can be on the e part of a and e man hunters Man hunters that would be discovery bio Okay, here's here's an easy one Larry the cable guy. This is included. It's only it's only cable networks does include big networks

1:53:38 It's this is the cable network. Larry the cable guy is on the E network. It's now on the history channel. Okay, well, I'm sucking. Can people play along at home? I'm gonna kind of down gear it a little bit for it. So make it a lot easier. Mob wives. That is a Bravo. VH1. Sons of guns. That is on Oh, I know this. Discovery? Oh, you got one! Yes. It's a gun show. You think I might have seen it? I cloned my pet. I cloned my pet. The Food Network. Now you get the idea. But no, it's the Learning Channel. And actually we have an I cloned my pet clip. You might want to play as a little interlude here. It's a woman about the chicken sandwich.

1:54:41 Oh my goodness, alright. My name is Danielle. This is my dog, Trouble, who I would love to clone. He was the love of my life and I want him back. I usually come in this room and I say, hi Trouble, hi Trouble boy, how are you? He came first before anybody. He came first before my husband, he came first before my parents. Nobody else mattered. He was like the child that I never had and I probably did treat him better than people treat their children. It's three years after Trouble's death and Danielle still can't throw away anything her beloved Trouble touched. I have a piece of chicken.

1:55:31 Okay, so that's you edit that Obviously that's an important TLC show learning channel. Yes, very important. Okay, so as we continue on surviving Alcatraz surviving Alcatraz that is CNBC Wrong. Let me give it another hint the same network drugs Inc I thought that was CNBC. I thought that that's all the stuff that they do at night. It's the kind of stuff they do, but now that's being done on this channel. This is where his program was last night. These two shows, one after the other. National Geographic. What is wrong with these? Okay, let me give you one. This should be easy. I love this. This is a great game. I'm going to give you a whole bunch of shows and you just name the channel because it's pretty obvious and you hear

1:56:22 Killer ants is a show mutant bees is a show Carnivorous ants is a show this must be National Geographic what the ancients knew National all these shows you say National Geographic. That's a good guess no that's science Channel So they're completely dumbed down the public we have killer bees and bees and killer ants. This is a big science show okay Let me let me this will be the last one Okay ready, I'm ready. I'm like instead of dragging it on I'm gonna name a bunch of shows and you tell me what this okay? All right good out of control drivers motorcycle manhunt wreck classics and prom queens That's I think that's all TLC the green network How much are we paying for this wonderful package that you that you have time to control drivers? How is that green?

CHAPTER 42 / 52 Discussion

Reality TV Obsessions and the Green Network

The hosts discuss their guilty pleasures in reality TV, including "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" and "Celebrity Rehab." They mock the "Green Network" for airing shows about car wrecks and tow truck drivers. Curry explains that the lack of video on No Agenda is intentional, designed to preserve the "theater of the mind" for listeners.

reality tv· dr. drew· green network· theater of the mind· emerald lagasse

1:57:28 Are you sure these aren't... There's not a green show on the green network. These guys all give up. They have this great idea. Let's do a green network. And then nobody watches it. So what is Toddlers and Tiaras on? That's on TLC, I think. Yeah, I think so too. And you know what the other one... So here's the shows out of that genre that I like. I always watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills when I'm cooking because I know Camille because she used to be a dancer on Club MTV and she has like 20 boob jobs and she would screw the director to get close-ups and she's and it's just hilarious. Okay, that's funny. Yeah, I watch Dr. Drew's Celebrity Rehab, you know what channel that's on? Celebrity Rehab?

1:58:13 Oh, no Bravo VH1 of course it should be on video hits one yeah, I love that because video hits yeah MTV channel I love dr. Drew because I also know most of the people who are on that show I do like watching reality shows with the boy know the people like Tawny Katane We got the guy from Guns and Roses It's funny Insane then I watch Bridezilla's Yeah, I don't know what channel broad bride zillas is on so I miss it most of the time and this other one which is Gypsy weddings have you ever seen that one? That's on I think that's on TLC. It's just insane It's just if you if you skim through the channels, which of course we do from time to time I don't know. I mean, I'm paying a hundred bucks hundred twenty more. I'm paying all kinds of money for this crap. I

1:59:07 And it's and you're right. It's all bogus bogative the whole thing is ridiculous because uh does that tell us you know? Anthropologists are one thing I say we've uncovered this cable programming box from the year 2012 let's see what's on the green The time when people are very concerned with global warming they even had television channels like the green channel What did they have on the green channel professor Dvorak? great car wrecks out of control drivers yeah most wreck classics by the way the wreck class or wreck chasers is wreck chasers and it's with about two female tow truck drivers in Cleveland how is this green Wow

1:59:57 What does it got to do with green? They used to have Emerald cooking green on the... I don't even know if he's on there. They've essentially taken all the green stuff off. He's too highbrow. You can't have Emerald on television anymore. He's too good. Anyway, this is and by the way, that's part of why we don't do video on this podcast is we want people to listen to us to imagine use your theater of the mind your imagination like reading a book and Drift away and think about things and not be distracted by a kid by me with the headphones on how boring would that be John eating his grapefruit this by the way, yes, you've said it before which is the

CHAPTER 43 / 52 Discussion

Polish Prosecutor Suicide Attempt and Plane Crash Conspiracy

The hosts analyze a bizarre video of a Polish military prosecutor, Colonel Przhebel, who apparently attempted suicide during a press conference. Przhebel was investigating journalists covering the 2010 plane crash that killed the Polish president. The hosts find the "missed" shot to the cheek and the audible chambering of a round highly suspicious, suggesting a deeper conspiracy or intimidation.

poland· colonel przhebel· lech kaczynski· assassination· suicide attempt

2:00:41 You get a lot more out of just watching the audio without being distracted by the video. There's a lot of subtext that we pick up on. When I'm doing clips, I'll often discover something I really didn't take the clip for. I'll listen to the clip because I'm just listening and I say, oh my god, what did he say? And I'll find some neuro-linguistic programming, some crazy way of putting things. You can't do that if you're watching. So here's something that the audio Now did you follow up on this two to the head from this Polish colonel? Did you hear about this? No. Oh my goodness. No. Okay, so this is a callback to when the Polish, half the Polish government, more than half was killed in a plane crash. Including the head guy. Yeah, 90 people flying to Russia

2:01:40 And then you'll recall us playing the video of people being shot who were out there alive. There were survivors and they were being shot. Nobody covered it but it was clear what was going on from the clip that was posted. People were being shot on the spot. So now there's this colonel who is the investigator investigating the journalists who were propagating of course these horrible lies. And this is on the BBC, this report, you just gotta listen to the whole thing, it's crazy. journalists reporting on the plane crash that killed the then Polish president, Lech Kaczynski and his wife, and more than 90 others in 2010. During my entire service as a civilian and later military prosecutor, I have never brought shame to the Republic of Poland. I will continue to uphold the honor of an officer of the Polish Armed Forces. Thank you. Please give me a five-minute break. I need a rest.

2:02:46 Having cut the news conference short and with the camera still rolling, Colonel Pasha Bill steps just out of view. Listen carefully for a round being chambered in a weapon. Moments later, a gunshot. There was a bang here. My first suspicion was maybe somebody had been shooting at the prosecutor standing by the window. However, we started to look for the prosecutor, Pyszowal, and we found him lying under the table, laying on the floor in a large puddle of blood. And then we started to suspect he had probably tried to commit suicide. So how crazy is this? What? So how did I miss this? But it gets even crazier.

2:03:34 So, so, and you actually see the guy walk off camera and there's no cut that I can see in the shot. You hear the round being chambered, you hear the shot, you hear the gun drop, you hear the- You'd think it would be chambered beforehand. This is almost like in your face. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Well, it gets even better. The bullet that could have been fatal went through the side of his cheek. Animation on screen. The prosecutor was taken to hospital for surgery. It was not a serious operation. We've operated on his cheek injury. I think he will leave the hospital within the next few days. Speaking from his hospital bed to local media by way of telephone, Colonel Przhebel told reporters what happened and why. I aimed incorrectly and the shot was fired a bit too fast. The bullet went to my cheek and not to my head. I was too hasty.

2:04:32 So here's a military guy who's like, I'm going to kill myself and he misses his head? Come on! And then when you see him lying face down, spread eagle, if you shoot yourself in the head, you don't think you necessarily fall face down, spread eagle under the table. This whole thing reeks of bull crap and he missed. I wanted to kill myself, but I missed. Huh? Yeah, and so he shot himself in the cheek. What, did he put the gun to his cheek? Apparently, and it went out the back of his cheek. And why was a bullet being chambered? Yeah, that's the... What was he shooting a... The whole thing doesn't make sense.

2:05:20 Well we do know that's him talking it seems like he won't be talking for a while with that after that operation. There's even more of the report if you want another 30 seconds it's just crazy. He said he was tired of being a target of the gangs he was prosecuting. I could come to terms with the fact that they demolished my car, that they unscrewed the wheels in my car, that there was a prize of a million zloty for my head. I could come to terms... What was a million like 40 bucks? Millions Lottie how much is that worth? Yeah, look it up the fact that they killed my dog But I could not come to terms with the accusations of misconduct that were hurled at me Asked by a radio reporter how he was feeling his answer spoke volumes like a man He said who has just been shot Jim Clancy CNN reporting. I'm sorry. That was CNN the BBC had a shorter report we the BBC actually had the same video but they cut out the chambering of the round and the shot and

2:06:17 Which I found interesting because that's kind of the best part. I don't know why they did that. So, um, I'm pretty convinced that the Polish government was killed and they were all assassinated. But then for this guy who was investigating reporters like, you know, people like you and me and people who are shooting video of these poor survivors getting shot in the head, this is the guy investigating them and then he shoots himself and misses? I mean, you know, I don't have a theory or anything, but I just had to play it. I'm just like, wow, this is crazy. The Zulati is about 29 cents. So it's about $300,000. Oh, that's a good deal then. Since we're in the second half of the show, actually moving quite along here to brisk clip.

CHAPTER 44 / 52 Discussion

Phobos-Grunt Spacecraft and Satellite Warfare

The Russian space agency director suggests that the failure of the Phobos-Grunt Mars probe may have been caused by "powerful devices" from foreign powers. The hosts interpret this as a veiled admission of satellite warfare. They speculate that the U.S. may have used the probe for target practice while it was out of Russian radar range.

phobos-grunt· russia· satellite warfare· new york times· space debris

2:07:05 What do I always say about space wars? Do I not always say that we have no idea what's going on over our heads that we got satellites shooting other satellites and all kinds of stuff? Do I not always say this? You don't always say it, but you've said it a lot. The New York Times now reports the paper of record a Russian scientific spacecraft whizzing out of control around the earth and expected to re-enter the atmosphere on Saturday. This is the... What's the name of that thing again? The spacecraft coming down yeah the one we talked about we even named the show after it. We did yes, but Nick no Yes, that was a long time ago on the show I think it was episode 371 It was oh yeah that crazy name. I can't remember. It's called Some stupid we'll get it hold on a second. It's the something stupid spacecraft exactly and

2:08:05 I don't know. Anyway, the Russian space agency director has said in an interview published Tuesday and republished by the New York Times and you know they can't publish lies. Fobos Grunt. Fobos Grunt. Thank you. Quote, we don't want to accuse anybody, but there are very powerful devices that can influence spacecraft now, Mr. Popovkin said in the interview. The possibility they were used cannot be ruled out. He also suggested that equipment on the spacecraft may have broken down while the vehicle was stored on the ground, but in that case it never would have launched, we would have thrown it away. So he's essentially saying that when this thing, Phobos Grunt, was out of range of their own radar, because you know there's a dark side or whatever, then they're out of radar contact.

2:08:57 That that's when some powerful device that can influence spacecraft, which now apparently exists, was probably used. The possibility cannot be ruled out. I love it. I love it when the New York Times corroborates. We won't quite make an accusation, but it's pretty close. Well, can't we just say the New York Times should be wearing tinfoil hats? How come no one ridicules them for that? I don't know. Because if it was Ron Paul, it would definitely be ridiculed worthy. Alright, let's talk about Iran.

2:09:49 being in such a the kind of shape where the hydrogen tank would be intact and I actually expected the hydrazine would blow up on re-entry because it would heat up right and then the whole thing just so it should be a spectacular explosion in this in space nice visible from Earth Saturday no one has said anything about that no because it's not good form when your government blows something out of the sky to draw attention to it I guess that's probably a good rationale. Right? And they don't know where it's gonna land. They think it may land in the Indian Ocean. No, they know exactly where it's gonna land. Don't you remember that whole conversation? They had the exact coordinates because they shot it out. They know exactly what's going on. We're just idiots. Just stupid lame-o idiots. Well, the Russians aren't gonna put... they're not gonna be happy. These things cost money. There must be something about the Fobos grunt

2:10:44 Because it's just floating around in orbit. It must not have been a Mars probe at all. Well, here's how the meeting went. Hey, hey John. It's friggin' Ruskies, man. They sent this thing up, Phobos Grunt. I hate that name. Let's nuke it. Stupid name, stupid Ruskies. Hey, this will give us a practice, because it's going to be on the other side. It's going to be dark for an hour. We can shoot it down and no one will know and it'll give us good practice. Good, we got it. All they can do is make vague accusations. They won't know. They won't really know. So, Lucifer Clippity-Clop in the news quite a bit today. Of course, not actually really in the news.

CHAPTER 45 / 52 Discussion

Assassination of Iranian Nuclear Scientist Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan

The hosts discuss the "James Bond style" assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan via a magnetic bomb attached to his car by motorcyclists. They note this is the fourth such assassination in three years. While Iran blames Israel, the hosts analyze the scripted nature of the international response.

mostafa ahmadi-roshan· iran· mossad· magnetic bomb· assassination

2:11:28 Little clips here and there. I always watch the full videos if they're available on C-SPAN or on the state.gov website. Also, I had to figure out the UN website. Have you ever tried to figure out the United Nations website? It's a nightmare. My goodness, if you just want to find a video, it's like, it is a nightmare. So first of all, here's a Lucifer with her signature move. Clippity-clop clippity-clop now. She's on the carpet quiet and then clippity-clop. We're off the carpet clippity-clop. Yeah Hello, and go ahead So what did she say well of course we have to do a couple of

2:12:23 A couple of things here. We have to first understand that there's been big news in Gitmo Nation, Irania. Right, now the Tehran deputy governor has already put the blame on Israeli forces as carrying out this attack, but what do we know about Professor Mustafa Ahmadi in terms of what his work was? What did he do at Natanz? So this is about the amazing story that I think for the third or fourth time now a nuclear scientist in Iran has been assassinated. Yeah, and this one was done in a James Bond style. Yeah, apparently people saw two guys on a motorcycle go up a drop side put a black motorcycle and black outfits with him this like Tom Cruise and he puts a magnet in the other guy puts a magnetic bomb underneath the car. No, I think he put on the side of the car didn't he?

2:13:16 Thought it was underneath the car which no one gonna be hard to do that. It's the driver just a drive-by Why don't you magnetic bottom? Why don't you just drive by and shoot the guy in the head? Why do you have to go? This is more fun. It looks better And and of course this is this is not a foreign operation. You know I mean these nuclear scientists Disappearing and dying I mean that can't have nothing to do with any other country, and do we know anything about the scientist well For the time being, not a lot has been released regarding this guy, but in the last three years we have witnessed exactly similar accidents in Tehran.

2:13:53 In all of them the Iranian officials have accused Israeli to play a key role in doing these attacks. Two years ago, Professor Ali Mohammadi was killed and last winter, exactly last winter, another guy called Shahryari was killed in exactly the same accident. And in all of these events, it was the Iranian intelligence service who pointed to Israeli intelligence So this is a script ladies and gentlemen, which I think belongs on the green channel It's so poorly written. So the whole idea is you know, this is the back and forth back and forth Oh you did this. Oh, you killed our guy. Oh, you sunk my battleship and then Lucifer has to come out and say this I

CHAPTER 46 / 52 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's Denial and the Iranian Spy

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton "categorically denies" U.S. involvement in the Iranian scientist's assassination while warning Iran against closing the Strait of Hormuz. The hosts compare the escalating tensions—including the capture of an alleged American spy and the rescue of Iranian fishermen—to a poorly written "Mission Impossible" script.

hillary clinton· strait of hormuz· iran· espionage· mission impossible

2:14:43 I think it's important to recognize very clearly that the provocative rhetoric coming out of Iran in the last week has been quite concerning. It has caused us and many of our partners in the region and around the world to reach out to the Iranians, to impress upon them the provocative and dangerous nature of the threats to close the Straits of Hormuz. This is an international waterway. The United States and others are committed to keeping it open. It's part of the lifeline that keeps oil and gas moving around the world. And it's also important to speak

2:15:33 as clearly as we can to the Arranged... Notice how her voice goes up. Do you notice that? It's also important to say, as clearly as we can... because it's important, please pay attention this is your news bite for the six o'clock news and to the iranians about the dangers of this kind of provocation having said that i want to categorically deny any united states involvement in any kind of active violence inside iran we believe that there has to be

2:16:11 and an understanding between Iran, its neighbors, and the international community that finds a way forward for it to end its provocative behavior, end its search for nuclear weapons, and rejoin the international community and be a productive member of it. Well, here's the timeline, by the way. The Iranians capture an American alleged spy, who has an interesting background by the way, which makes him kind of sound like a spy. We rescue a bunch of Iranian fishermen in two different incidents. Yep. They take the spy and say we're gonna kill him. Yep.

2:16:56 And then we kill this guy. And then we kill some other dude. Right, exactly. It's like, okay. It's like even Tom Cruise would say, you're kidding me, right? You don't really want this. This is lame. They can't really have this as a script for Mission Impossible 5. This is dumb. I mean, we need something good now. We need something flying around towers. We need you know people jumping out of helicopters this is no good this is a very very lame script yet it is being played out it's being played and if the thing about the spy which is interesting if you look into this guy's background so he's gonna go to Iran he's an American goes to Iran apparently he's a very interesting character he's very talented and to see his grandmom so he was obviously... wink wink nudge nudge I'm uh yeah I'm just going to see my grandmother

CHAPTER 47 / 52 Discussion

Rick Santorum's "Enemy Combatant" Rhetoric

The hosts critique Rick Santorum's aggressive stance on Iran, where he suggests that foreign nuclear scientists working there should be treated as "enemy combatants" and assassinated. They point out that the recently killed scientist was Iranian, not foreign, and label Santorum's rhetoric as "bloodthirsty" and potentially "programmed."

rick santorum· enemy combatant· iran· foreign policy· mk ultra

2:17:49 So we don't know anything else. He went in, he got in okay and then they said well they set him up or maybe he did something. I don't know. I mean we don't get the real story about any of this but the guy gets arrested and they will let him go. But the timing is beautiful because we've got all these Republican douche knuckles Running for the primaries all saying alright, and there's clippity-clop saying it or so stop making nuclear weapons not making a weapon Is Santorum who is a bloodthirsty jerk off if anyone is and he goes on and on about in fact I don't have a clip of this where he goes on and on about how they should be killing these guys left and right Santorum on assassinations. Yeah play that and then I'll and that's yeah, that's the one I think

2:18:37 We've got problems. There was a nuclear scientist who was killed in Iran. Iran says it was the United States who did it. The United States has condemned it. Britain has condemned it. Israel has said nothing. So there's a lot of suspicion that Israel was responsible for his death. That's the guy, the person who doesn't say anything, that's the one who farted? Is that basically what that news report is saying? Hey man, Israel, you're real quiet there. Did you fart? I think Israel farted! Things have certainly heated up. If you were President of the United States, with Ahmadinejad visiting just down the road a little bit in Cuba and all that going on in Tehran, what would you be doing differently tonight than President Obama is doing?

2:19:16 Well, I would have, I've already made a public statement that any nuclear scientist, particularly any foreign nuclear scientist, who's cooperating with the Iranians in developing a nuclear weapon program, would be considered an enemy combatant. And I wouldn't, I would be doing what Israel was, would be doing tonight, which is saying nothing. Would you have participated in trying to eliminate him? I'd be saying nothing right now. Would you have been behind his elimination? Would you have been? There are different ways to go after the program. One is to take out their plants and another is to take out their people who are involved in them. I think that this is the most serious threat to the security and stability of the world that we have today and we should be using

2:20:00 all types of methodologies to stop that including taking out people and I've said specifically foreign scientists who come into Iran for the purposes of helping them to develop a nuclear weapons program. These are people who should be treated like enemy combatants period. Wow. A couple things couple things here besides him being a douchebag. No no no no no he is the He is the supply that runs through the hose into the douchebag. So he said a couple of things. He says enemy combatant. Are we at war with Iran? Did we declare war? Have we been bombing? What's the deal? Let me check. Let me see if Congress has declared war. No, I don't think so. Okay, so the guy's not an enemy combatant except in this guy's brain. Any nuclear scientist.

2:20:54 He emphasizes twice and other, I have other clips of him, emphasizing as if it were true that this guy was a foreign nuclear scientist. He is not. He was a manager at one of the facilities. He's Iranian. So what's that all about? Poor guy. It's just to scare off the foreign guys maybe from coming in? I'm not sure. But it's bullcrap. So there's something weird going on about this whole thing. And Santorum is, I don't know what his problem is, but he's got something. He's got walking papers or talking points. I think he's MK Ultra. You know, he grew up in Pennsylvania, you know, that Penn State, lots of pedo-bear action. Maybe he was programmed early on. Well, it looks like the type. Yeah.

2:21:45 Very very scary man very you know Mickey said the other day if that guy becomes the presidential nominee I'm leaving this country, and I said going back to Holland. I said yeah, oh yeah, that's great Get a second. I'll be buying in there, too. Yeah, so that'll be great go back to Holland But you know everyone sees that he's a creep, and there's no way you can get anywhere. I mean the I mean it's like seeing Huntsman, he's just a insincere douchebag. He's so insincere, I'll be darned. And that. So anyway, so we got these guys pigged.

CHAPTER 48 / 52 Discussion

Susan Rice and the Syrian "Foreign Conspiracy"

U.S. Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice dismisses Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's claims of a "foreign conspiracy" as an insult to the Syrian people. The hosts argue that Assad is actually correct, comparing the situation to previous interventions in Libya and Egypt. They critique Rice's push for tougher sanctions and a "strong resolution" against the regime.

susan rice· syria· bashar al-assad· un security council· sanctions

2:22:24 Enemy combatants. Yeah, anyway, so of course we have to Stir it up a little bit more because we got to get ready. All right, we've got we've got our guys talking about it We've got the newt the newt is talking about Going and the newt will nuke we've got henchmen. We've got Santorum and We got to throw in some serious stuff. Throw in some serious stuff. There you go. That's what we got to do. And how are we going to do it? Well, we have to prove that Assad is killing everybody, killing them, killing them, killing him. So they're still in the UN Security Council, of which our ambassador is Susan Rice, who has ugly, ugly ass wide pant legs that she wears. You know, the ones that you could fit three legs into and each pant leg.

2:23:11 It's such a not a good look. MC Hammer. Well to say that it's a foreign conspiracy is frankly an insult to the- Sorry I had to set this up. So Assad comes out and says this is a conspiracy. We have the foreign media, everyone's conspiring to kick me out, which by the way, is true! It's exactly what happened with Libya, it's exactly what happened with Egypt. It is true, it is a conspiracy, and we know that these are all kinds of bullcrap fighters who are in there, and we don't see actual high-quality video, it's all just fake. It's all fake, it's another fake war, and then Susan Rice has the audacity to say this.

2:23:58 Well to say that it's a foreign conspiracy is frankly an insult to the people of Syria who are dying on the streets at the hands of their own government as they try to express freely their rights to peaceful expression and freedom of assembly. This is such a lie! Hey, where have we seen this? It's not true. We have no reporters on the ground. No one is actually reporting on this. The Arab League is like, we can't find it. Oh, you turn the street signs around. Oh, they hid the prisoners. And to bring about through peaceful means a better future and a more responsive government.

2:24:39 The United States has been very clear and very forceful in its approach to the crisis in Syria from the very outset. We've imposed tough sanctions on the Syrian regime, which is an act of war. We have incrementally increased them. We have joined with partners in Europe and in the Arab world to broaden and deepen those sanctions. and we have pressed, as you know, for a strong and meaningful response by this Council to what is transpiring in Syria. We think it's long past time that the Council passes a strong resolution that supports the Arab League and all of the elements of the Arab League initiative, including its call for sanctions.

2:25:19 Unfortunately, after a bit of a show last month of tabling a resolution, the Russians inexplicably have been more or less AWOL in terms of leading negotiations on the text of that resolution. We and many other members of the Council have offered a number of amendments. We were happy to engage in a process, but we thought that that document, the ultimate resolution that might emerge from negotiations had to be credible. It had to be comprehensive. We couldn't cherry pick among aspects of the Arab League initiative that some may like and leave aside those that some may not like. We needed to endorse the Arab League and support it in total.

CHAPTER 49 / 52 Discussion

Hillary Clinton's "Blue Tank" Claim and Syrian Propaganda

Hillary Clinton claims the Syrian army is painting its assault vehicles blue to disguise them as police forces. The hosts find this claim absurd and indicative of a "chillingly cynical" propaganda effort. They argue that the international media is compromised and that the "crackdown" narrative is being manufactured to justify intervention.

hillary clinton· syria· propaganda· arab league· blue tanks

2:26:01 So a little long-winded, but I think it's important that we understand exactly what is going on. So the Russians are still saying no, we'll have no part of this. This is bullcrap. So there's the whole Russian thing is still in play. Now we have Clippity Clop and Clippity Clop goes one step, they had the meeting clearly, same talking points. She goes one step further while she's standing next to the guy from the Arab League. Two weeks ago Arab League monitors arrived in Syria to judge whether the regime was keeping its promise to end the killings, withdraw its troops, release political prisoners and follow through on the commitments that it had made. So far,

2:26:42 the regime has not done so. It claims to have released some prisoners but thousands more are still not free, dozens more are arrested every day. And here comes the kicker. We've seen the Syrian army paint its assault vehicles blue to disguise military forces. Are you kidding me? Where's the I'm please where's the Viagra rape thing you've got to move on you got to move beyond all the like no They paint it's interesting though that there's a code word blue blue. Oh, yeah, this is not by accident They painted their their their military trucks blue like hey guys. We got to go kill some civilians hold on a second boss We can't do it till we paint everything blue oh

2:27:25 Yeah, because that's what murderous regimes do. As police to hide from the world the full extent of its crackdown. Just two days ago... No, because we can't see the actual crackdown. Eleven of the international monitors were attacked, two were injured when their convoy came under assault. But instead of taking responsibility, what we hear from President Assad in his chillingly cynical speech. Chillingly cynical speech, John. Chillingly cynical. Chilling is of course a code word. You see that the left uses it quite a bit. Chilling. When you see chilling,

2:28:01 Yesterday. was only making excuses, blaming foreign countries, conspiracies so vast that now it includes the Syrian opposition, the international community, all international media outlets, the Arab League itself. And I want to commend the Arab League for showing real leadership. Yeah, I think he's probably right.

CHAPTER 50 / 52 Discussion

Bahrain Double Standard and the October Surprise

The hosts highlight the media's silence on the uprising in Bahrain compared to the coverage of Syria. They note the massive arms deal between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, which helped clamp down on Bahraini protesters. They speculate that a major event or "October Surprise" is being planned to influence the upcoming U.S. election.

bahrain· saudi arabia· double standard· october surprise· media blackout

2:28:42 Yes, the foreign media all media is compromised. Yes. It's a conspiracy. Yes, you have techno experts in all these countries You've admitted that Lucifer clippity-clop Hinton you do she devil the question that comes up to in my mind is what about Bahrain? We not only ignore which seems to be more problematic than Syria the people's uprising in Bahrain Which is kind of like Tunisia. It's not there's something we didn't like dream. We it's not it's nothing we're part of so we you know we didn't make this happen but it's happening but let's just ignore it we just did the biggest arms deal ever yeah with Saudi Arabia cramped out clamped down Bahrain either work a few courses how does this make sense to anybody who knows all these variant facts it's a scam yeah well

2:29:35 uh... it's a it's a way i should say the new york times yeah oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh-oh- and it says that asad wave to supporters in damascus on wednesday he pledged to defeat conspiracies against syria and then you have to go to a ten where this is again i'd still think this is downplayed on orders and uh...

2:30:19 Carter says Egypt's military is the top story. You have to go down to the below the fold to get serious presidents defiant And that's it's just a little story four columns The Arab League observer quit calling his mission of farce is a cult is the pull quote fart farce And it's a vague story. It doesn't just by nada. Maybe we can look up the writer and I think they're waiting for October This is what it's gonna be Yeah, maybe October surprise. There's definitely something gonna happen in October. So just to get the you know the the To rig the election. Yeah More of the same but at least you know, maybe you know John maybe we could get our show distributed on like the green channel or something it's I'm sure people would be happy to or National Geographic We could just have us

CHAPTER 51 / 52 Discussion

Mayor Bloomberg's Alcohol Prohibition and Smoking Bans

Following his ban on outdoor smoking, New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is reportedly targeting alcohol retail outlets. The hosts view this as the beginning of a new era of prohibition that will inevitably lead to increased organized crime. They characterize Bloomberg's efforts as a "corrupt" overreach of government authority.

michael bloomberg· new york city· prohibition· alcohol regulation· smoking ban

2:31:16 Excuse me. Just have a static image. Just us. Talking away. We'd probably get better ratings if our entire audience showed up. All 5,000 of them. Yeah, it would boost them. And then from the I told you so files remember when everyone was like oh yeah cool mayor Bloomberg Yeah, he's he's outlawing smoking in New York. Yeah, that's great Let's get rid of the smokers you filthy smokers you and what did I say? I said hey, you know what you want to do that. That's fine. It's good Yep, smoking filthy you hear me hawking and coughing that's right, but if you let the government out will ban smoking in the open air What are they gonna come for next here it is

2:32:01 Mayor Bloomberg coming after alcohol. That's right. Apparently he doesn't know the history of prohibition but there's now a request for proposal document that the mayor's office has sent out about reducing alcohol retail outlets so they want to basically license where alcohol can be sold and this is just the start of it all. Oh yeah, it's the start of prohibition in New York City. And what does that usually lead to besides a great series on Showtime?

2:32:40 A great crime syndicate. Yeah, exactly. Crime. This plays right in the hand of the criminal element. That's what he's trying to do. The guy's corrupt in some funny way. So that to me means that he is a criminal element. He probably has a distillery somewhere. or something. Yeah, anyway. Don't kill the messenger. That was another enlightening show. Yeah, well did you have something fun to end it all with? I mean, I have nothing. No, I do have a little clip that we can play. It's very short. As an end of show clip? Of Cavuto with just a weird kind of homage to Ron Paul that was on Fox Business. Fox Business is a little more liberal than that. Yeah, 20 conservative. Literally 8,000 people watching that.

CHAPTER 52 / 52 Discussion

Neil Cavuto's Ron Paul "Phenomenon" Commentary

The show concludes with a clip of Fox Business host Neil Cavuto describing Ron Paul as a "phenomenon" who draws crowds similar to Barack Obama's 2008 campaign. Cavuto suggests Paul is a "hit with a lot of liberals" and could be a formidable independent nominee. The hosts sign off, reminding listeners that "donating is love."

neil cavuto· fox business· ron paul· libertarian· independent nominee

2:33:30 Yeah, it's very low. Yeah, but I would play that it's kind of it's it's amusing because there's a punchline and it's Definitely yeah, okay. We'll play it. We'll play it as end of show clip all right all right. Hey everybody Thank you very much for showing up. Thank you very much for showing your support and love Because donating is the sincerest form of love right above cooking for someone else And we got a couple days to ramp up for the next round, so thank you so much. Coming to you from Camp MoFo here in the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's take out the garbage day. Whoops, the garbage is gone. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back again on Sunday, same time, same bat channel, right here on No Agenda. So let you hear this. Yes.

2:34:35 Those are largely kids going more than largely nuts over a 76 year old dude talking about reigning in the Fed and pulling back our troops. That's a crowd that usually isn't engaged with or by or anything having to do with Republicans. The same crowd I suspect might have attended some Barack Obama rallies four years ago but not now. And then it got me thinking, now and then this does happen. If Ron Paul can draw that kind of crowd, the president's crowd. Does he offset the support he's dragging away from the presumptive Republican nominee and his traditional crowd? Hard to say, this much is not. Ron Paul isn't only a force. I think he's a phenomenon. Way too early to say he still can't beat a Republican nominee.

2:35:22 even earlier to say he can't make a go of it as an independent nominee. All I know is the Libertarian is a hit with a lot of liberals. Liberals who want us drawing our troops back and cutting our spending back. Rowdy kids share that view. Kids Republicans have long dismissed and Democrats have long taken for granted. Not wise, not now. Not when Ron is the rage and the life of the party and poised to enrage both parties. 76 year old dude treated like a rock star. Iran must not get a nuclear weapon and we will go about whatever it takes to make sure that happens. Why? Because donating slash N A Dvorak dot org slash N A