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00:00 It's a cool drone, let's send it to Iran. Let them-let it land over there act all like its like a lost or-lost puppy and keep puttin' a bunch of gear and crazy things in there that you know says some weird stuff on it like you know thermal imager and it gots like some crazy circuit in their is really old you know Z80 computer or something Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Sunday December 11th 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 364 This Is No Agenda Observing central casting and action here at Camp MoFo in Austin, Texas. The capital of the lone star state in the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley... Hey a drone just landed! I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot & Buzzkill In the Morning With a stinger! Hey now

00:51 Where'd that stinger come from? Oh, you always ask me that. I don't think i've ever asked it! You always asked me that when you hear the stingers because they're all separate elements and then if your short on your little intro then I just hit this one... It's Crackpot & Buzzkill in the morning But the music is still running so sometimes you get the stinger See, people think this is all pre-produced like we spend an hour before the show putting it together. Yeah no I understand but nobody... well people must think that but what's this? Can you just play the stinger stand alone? Well its not a stinger its this whole thing here Oh your playing oh I see. See now ill explain it to ya right? Ah I know how it works. So this just runs and runs and runs. It has a separate stinger. Runs and runs and then you go I'm jumping in the bug! I'm jumping in the bug! And then crack button buzzkill blah blah blah Here comes the stinger

01:42 Yeah, that. See how it works? Da-da-dun da-da-dun. Yeah, that's the one. You don't hear that anywhere else in the world by the way, that stinger That music is never used anywhere I like that! Never heard anything quite like it Astonishing It's really...it's funny I found this... Must have been written for us by Beethoven Who was a knight by the way Beethoven wrote our stinger And then and he and the bastard sold it to Apple And put it in the garage band sound loops So anyway that guy In the morning to you John and the morning to you Adam curry and in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on The ground and feets in the air, and of course our human resources who once again have faithfully shown up and represent a quorum in the chatroom know agenda stream calm no agenda chat net. That's right

02:36 You're all charged up, ready to go the way your government loves you. And I just want to start off today John because I've got some...I'm gonna go out on a limb this show. I think I have too. Out on a limb? Yeah, I think I have too. In the first half of the show? It's the whole show man! Could you just agree with me that... No. Now you will agree with me. The people who run our world are insane In what way? They're insane, especially in America. They could well be insane... Yeah our politicians are insane megalomaniacs they're just insane So what's your point I just want to make sure that we agree that they're insane they will do anything

03:25 Well, it depends on your definition of insanity. But I would agree with your overall view of things. Okay then we'll just do anything to convince the stupid slaves to go along with their program by the way on today's show i'm happy to announce that you will be witness to an actual consulting presentation from the Curry Dvorak Consultancy Group as we will be presenting the strategy for the Obama administration for the next year. You do, you know about the meeting don't you John? I didn't get the memo! Well your in the meeting, your in a meeting We will be presenting to... As long as im in the meeting I dont care Your in the meeting of course your in the meeting, you got a very important job in the meeting Yeah and Im the other half of the consultancy group Thats part of it yeah well you bring credibility

04:23 You know, Professor Jean-Claude de Waraque. Do you have your little glasses like the little professor glasses for the meeting? Pince Nezes! Yeah that one yeah pince nezes we need it for the meeting. We've talked about that here at The House about getting pince nezes from family. Really?! Because it'd be so cool to have, you know those are the ones that pinch your nose is what it means. Yes, French. And you pull the glasses and there's just a pair of glasses with no legs on them. You pull them apart a little bit then gently drop them on your nose and now you read through them in a haughty manner

05:00 I think a monocle is better for you, actually. Well the problem with the monocles is that you have to hold it! No but you can just hold them with your eyebrow right? You kind of squeeze it down... Oh yeah there are some where you can stick in and then grip them with your facial muscles Yeah that would be- I think the monocle is good for you Monocles are- yeah maybe..I think those are pretentious You think?! And the pinched nez is not? I guess it is too Hey, right off the bat and we almost got through the entire show last week without talking about Alec Baldwin. I want to give props to our PR maven Lois Whitman did you see her YouTube video? Yes it's great! Lois Whitman who is a professional PR expert and by the way i've never met Lois

05:51 She really works very hard to try and get press for the show, and is always complaining that we don't do anything. We have no talking points! You guys are boring! No theme... she's always bitterly complaining about it. We have no hooks. She says you've got a pick-a-fight with somebody. What do you mean? I'm calling out people for Lucifer or evil. Nah it's not good enough for her. Nah nah nah, you gotta have a hook But she looks and she sounds like, I mean if you were to say show me the quintessential New York PR mega mama maven Lois Whitman is it right? Well she definitely presents herself that way. No she's fantastic!

06:35 But I'm in love with her. She's very likable Oh, easy...I can easily understand why So she puts out a YouTube video which had exactly one view when i saw it What? We have two now The PR maven One view And uh... She doesn't do very good PR for herself No! Nor for us but it doesn't matter we love her and we're impossible clients There comes the letter oh god now you have to listen to me She like I knew everything You guys suck and don't have any hooks You guys suck you got no hooks?! You know good You don't give me any heads up. You don't send me bullet points, clips! Alright here she is about the Alec Baldwin PR stunt which is I just love her for this. I can't believe that there are still people out there that do not understand that this whole Alec Baldwin words with friends American Airlines and now 30 Rock

07:29 was not a staged PR strategy. A brilliant staged PR strategy This did not happen by chance Here are the clues American Airlines would never upset Alec Baldwin to the point where he walked off It just wouldn't happen The captain would run out of the cabin to go get him If flight attendant would not want risk her career by throwing him off Do you know how many times I'm on American Airlines and the flight takes off, and people still have their Nooks, Kindles, iPads on? Let's get real. They did not pick Alan Baldwin to make their point. This was a staged situation." Of course the only link that Lois failed to make is that this is about Words with Friends which is owned by Zynga which is going public next week

08:30 So of course she's right. And I'm a little PO that we didn't like call it immediately, I think it was so obvious that we were like whatever Yeah, we've been getting a little lax. Yes we have, laxadaisy. In fact I remember one delight we've been getting a little laxative. I remember uh... I said something to somebody in some email exchange and pointed out this was a- Oh about human rights? There's something or yeah that maybe it was that maybe with something else but is happening a lot and they say, oh it's so obvious. You know what you're telling me? Tell me something I don't know! In other words a lot of including ourselves are taking in a lot of these things for granted in ways that we wouldn't have done maybe three years ago So I took this as a call to action when I saw this from Lois. I'm like now we really have to be more on the ball because

09:22 As true media assassins, this is what people like about us and this is why yeah you can call me a conspiracy theorist whatever but I think people like the deconstruction of the media. And so on Thursday we had Attorney General Holder testifying before the committee I have several clips that are it was dynamite John we could not have written this better It was dynamite stuff. Did you see any of it? No, you know how I was gonna clip it right yep Yeah Okay So we have to get into that because they're just as you know They're really going for this guy at the same time so there's really Republicans versus Democrats and in fact, I will play this little clip from Ted Deutsch

10:09 Who I think is, I think we're just mispronouncing his name. I think his name is Ted Douche He's a Democrat and so everyone's about this fast and furious there's memos of personal emails holders refusing to give It's just ISA accuses him of all kinds of amazing stuff And then of course it's time for...and you know I don't think they are all A-holes left and right But it's very clear what this Fast and Furious program was about. It was to get American guns out of hands of Americans, and nothing is more obvious in these types of settings where yeah there are some serious questions but most of the time the senators or the congressmen will start off with a statement which basically it just a PR thing right?

10:59 generally. I have no idea. Is that a rifle? Is that a shotgun? It could be a rifle or it could be a gun that travels around, it could be a reference to something inside your glove. Yeah yeah good point. All of these things would be helpful and more

11:40 protracted dialogue about what the nature of the problem is which is a national security threat to the United States. Long guns, long john's are national security threat to the United States. You know it's not only executive... According to The Shill by the way its high-powered rifle that is a long gun. ...branch that has ideas I think could be... Why didn't he call it that? I don't know. I'm sure there are great ideas in Congress as well and to the extent that we can identify them, work on them um and do so in a way that's respectful of an consistent with the Second Amendment, I think that would be very useful. Uh I agree.

12:17 suggest general that it's worth running the... General? You hear that how he says general, not attorney general but general. Yeah I this is disconcerting It's annoying is what it is He's not a general, he's an attorney general This debate to do within our own borders as well Well yeah I think it is worth noting that 100 thousand people here in America are involved or shot and gun violence How many people die in the bathroom in America John What's the number? I don't know I thought you'd have it. You're the professor! Well, we all know it's a lot how many people die in car accidents? Oh that's tens of thousands 32 thousand died from gun violence last year 20,000 American children and teens Childrens! Every year involved in gun violence They probably deserved it every day in America 270 people in America 47 of them children and teens are shot

13:13 and every day 87 people die from gun violence in this country. This is a very important hearing, and this is an important discussion about this operation, the investigation that you've started. I think unfortunately the debate that we're not having often enough here is one about gun violence in this country and is one that acknowledges the fact that law enforcement officers in our country now need to carry assault weapons themselves in order to match the firepower of criminals who carry assault weapons So of course the debate is not at all about a big cover-up going on. It's about assault weapons We have to take away long guns and assault weapons so you know Either way I should mention you mentioned Ted doych douche douche douche yeah, he is a massive gun anti gun Democrat oh yeah, no miss identifying weapons to scare the public exactly he's out of Boca Raton Oh Yeah

14:16 So, you know almost out of our playbook if we had the consulting contract which we don't We have to create some distractions To you know turn focus everyone particularly anyone who's watching C-SPAN and has a DVR Away from this cover up which has been taking place and well. We'll be playing some clips later on the show so two things happen one which kind of blew me away when I googled the actual location. We had a very strong earthquake in Guerrero, Mexico A 6.7 magnitude earthquake. Guerrero, Mexico

15:04 You know, is where all these mayors keep getting killed. It's like one of the biggest drug gang violence towns in Mexico where of course most of the almost 70 thousand weapons were smuggled in by the United States authorities Now you can take my theories on earthquake mechanisms and machines for what they are, but I think that is an incredible... So that's one. But what really slayed me was this Hollywood shooter

15:43 Did you follow this at all? Did you follow this at all? Yeah, I was thinking of getting a clip of the guy up on the balcony. Okay so... So there's a guy on a balcony and shooting taking a video of this guy walking down in middle of the street with a gun yeah i felt that this was some sort an anti-gun thing too it was really played out by Don Lemon. So I have the clip of Don Lemon with his guide the videographer whose name is Chris Johns First of all, when I saw him just watching this and this actually came by on TV. And the thing that I noticed immediately... This happened at the corner or the intersection of Hollywood and Vine somewhere between 9am-10am Friday morning. And I'm looking at this like first I said that can't be Hollywood and Vine! You know? I live not far from my daughter lived two streets up. It's a very famous intersection That place is packed with traffic between nine and ten it was empty

16:42 Okay, it was almost empty a couple of cars going by and we've got this crazy guy Shooting and we see it from the fourth story window. So the first thing I'm like if that can't be Hollywood in vine And I just didn't feel right to me just because of the lack of traffic. There's no I mean come on It's Los Angeles. There's no traffic. I showed it to miss Mickey too She's like now that's bullcrap that and she actually thought she saw a roadblock somewhere then the news comes out that People thought this was part of a movie Because there was a movie being shot like one or two streets over Sean Penn movie I believe And they thought this guy was an actor Then that would make sense because there were a number of people to the left as the guy panned around that we're coming toward The shooter mm-hmm, and they would be the classic Pedestrian well let's go look at them shooting a movie right um

17:34 Crowd and there's a they're everywhere those people so you know where I'm taking this. I'm going to assert that the entire thing Was acted and I have so many data points to prove to you, so a couple of interesting things happen here First of all there's no blood We have the guy, he's lying on the ground. If you've seen the pictures with a white sheet over him not an official NYPD or LAPD or fire department thing it's like it's a white sheet It's an actual white sheet like they use in movies The guy has been shot to death and you see the silhouette of his body but there is no blood anywhere

18:13 They said, well it was an off-duty cop who was guarding the movie set who heard the shots arrived on the scene and shoots the guy. But when you see the picture shot by Associated Press You see like a female cop with a shotgun hanging over the guy. You see another... there's cops everywhere! It's like a total movie set And I'm listening to this with Don Lemon and i get really suspicious about this Chris Johns guy. Listen to this... I looked at the video and you said, hey over here look over here why were you trying to get him to come? You were asking him to shoot at YOU! So my head swiveled like really so this guy's hanging out of a window and he's calling for the guy to shoot at HIM Yeah I thought that..I made it calculated kind of

19:03 he's struggling here. He made a calculated, I think this guy was the director this is my immediate thought like oh this guy was directing this whole scene. Comparison? I thought if people down there at point-blank range to the shooter were gonna get shot you know they really had they were kind of helpless to avoid being killed You know me i'm four stories up If I could take any of his attention and divert it towards me you know any gunshots that he would shoot at me I would have an opportunity to get out of the way. So, you know... I just made a calculation and thought it was good one that any attention I could take away from people in the street put it on me. I could probably save my own life and other peoples' lives. It's unbelievable that nobody died

19:53 in this Chris, when... Not really if it's fake uh..it's a fake scene Don. You know there were people who were injured he was shooting point-blank at cars and he was holding the gun explain to the viewers how he was holding the gun sort of hiding until go the car got right upon him Why is this detail even asked? I always baffle by when you ask for first time Explain how he is holding the gun And when you see the red car drive by, he shoots at the red car. The windshield explodes outward and they interview this guy Don Reed who was a retired sound engineer and they're interviewing him in the car and he still has a headset on like an honest to God headphones I'm like that's weird. You mean you drive around with your headphones on in the car?

20:41 Or just giant headphones. He had headphones on! And he's a sound engineer, I'm like okay... Alright this guy- Yeah he was holding the gun kind of methodically and mechanically kinda grazing around looking for kinda it looked like anything that was moving you know? You can see the red car goes by pop he shoots it and I'm screaming out anything I can you know? Now wait for it. I told him that he was an angel sent from God to kill me. Why would you say that This is so now I'm like this guy is really weird. So let me investigate him But there's one more little tidbit that Don Lemon brings up mission was I and I would say I? Would stop at nothing to kind of get his attention and and and get it towards me. I mean

21:23 Luckily nobody died and I don't know if i could have done anything more but, I wasn't at any moment afraid of somehow being shot or killed or wounded. I just was worried about the people on the street and I had a much better opportunity to avoid death from my vantage point He actually did engage you in conversation even asking for ammunition? Did he ask for another gun? So non-linear! You can hear that guy say it...you got any ammo?! Because if you're out of ammo in the scene, of course You want to ask the director? If you're out of ammo so I go looking for this guy Chris Johns and I find him he is A self-proclaimed multi millionaire film director He is on IMDB. This of course has never brought up at any of these little little ditties that he's on he just moved to Los Angeles two months ago

22:20 From Michigan and also the purported shooter Also, you know just started his Facebook just started this Twitter. He's like three tweets You know all from December 6th just started apparently this Chris Johns is producer of the 2012 release movie he's way more famous than you He's an executive producer in this can this is IMDb in the cast Ben Stiller Jesse Eisenberg Okay So this is a huge movie I'm like, oh this is a very interesting fellow. Let me look a little bit further into him and then i find his youtube video channel and listen to this over 70 percent of americans who make over 250 000 dollars a year in surveys have said you know they don't mind paying an extra three or four percent In taxes, I have some great ideas And I want you to take a look at it at wedontmind.org

23:14 So wedontmind.org is essentially propagating the message of a democratic message certainly but without a doubt the Obama administration message and this guy now listen to his practice run because he also uploaded that video to his YouTube channel There are over 4 million households in America that earn over $250,000 a year. In surveys of people with these incomes 65 to 70% of people state they don't mind paying a little extra we believe that we can target those 65-70 percent and the other 30-35 percent that do mind to work together to promote economic growth

23:56 We are calling on the top 3% of Americans to get involved. Now listen, I gotta keep it's gonna take a lot that's not the one that makes me exciting and is the call-to-action oh yeah so he's a marketing professional he's talking about the call to action for we for what is it uh what's the name of the site again? wedontmind.org So I look into this guy We don't mind.org which was also just registered on the 29th of October 2011, registered to Chris Johns in the Bientel building in Michigan and turns out he has a couple other domains such as bidet4less.com which sells a hose you attach I guess to spray your private area after pooping or whatever

24:46 I guess that's one of his side businesses. And he has PhilDate.com, Foxtrot India Lima Date dot com the free Filipina dating site and then you go look at the reported shooter this guy who now has three names Tyler Douglas Brehm and his mother is a Filipino! Now i'm just saying these are small coincidences Yeah, I like the way you're putting this together especially after you start off with the earthquake machine. No it's Lois' thing which is showing a PR stunt and then there's the lack of... The listener up for the fact that there's a lot of bogus crap going on bogative and now you've developed this uh i'm not seeing any holes in that You probably right something fishy? I'm gonna bring it home so apparently there was one guy who was parked

25:42 on Vine or Hollywood, I think it's vine in his Mercedes and a high-end Mercedes and he was shot in well some say the neck some say the jaw. He is being treated he surrounded by family police are not releasing his name and he's being guarded why? Why don't we not allowed to know his name What is that? Why's he being guarded. Thank you. KTLA goes and interviews a whole bunch of what I think are actors at the scene, listen very closely to what the Asian guy says it'll be little tough to... The Filipino

26:23 It could be a Filipino, it could be Korean. I can't tell but I immediately thought oh there's the Filipino connection again Listen so first is this crazy kooky guy with a beard and like crazy you know he's like uh He looks kind of like... Yeah i saw that Like the guy from Scooby Doo He looks like that guy here we go BAM! Bam! He was picking people out with his By the way You can hear The News Guy saying Can you say that again? Say that again man cause I wasn't rolling Say that again BAM He was picking people out with his pistol, walking up the street. Random people at will and he was just BAM! At sunset in Vine paramedics worked desperately to save a man shot in the neck by a gunman who lays dead on the street nearby Witnesses say LAPD officers shot the man who was firing the handgun after he refused to surrender So I dropped below the Mercedes so he couldn't shoot me And the cops ran up from back and told him to drop whatever he had

27:21 several times from different offices. Which is absolutely not true because you can watch the video Yeah we watched the video, the guy's out in the middle of the street they take a couple shots at him from long distance And he's nowhere near anybody else. He gets hit, winged or something and then on the CNN they cut it off Yeah and then you see the associated press picture with like the female cop with a shotgun hanging over him and like this shooting and he still alive on the ground now here comes the Asian Filipino guy as well and then they shot him About 10.30 this morning, the yet unidentified gunman began walking north on Vine towards Sunset apparently at first firing in the air then targeting pedestrians and drivers like Don Rydell who was narrowly missed as he drove by the shooter This is the guy with headphones on

28:10 So you drive by and this is what happens. I don't know how close that came to me, but pretty close. You can hear the news reporter prompting him. Yeah close to you it's close to you right? Because the guy is a little old so he needs his lines. King down on me today! The critically injured innocent bystander shot by the gunman was rushed to a hospital as stunned witnesses described the rampage. The shooter shouting and firing all around him. He was running over there, and I heard... On the ground? Yes on the ground. Two shots, pak pak pak pak pak! And he's shouting and running. Allahu Akbar! Now did you hear that?!

28:50 I could barely understand him talking about something with a deep accent. Listen again, listen again what he says the guy was saying. He said pak pak pak and he's shouting and running allahu akbar! He said allahu akbar! He says he's shouting Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar! He says... I was getting ludicrous. Are you kidding me? The guy was not running around shouting Allah Akbar So they pulled this extra in to say that and if you're if you google it ever there's new story after news Story now, of course because this guy was obviously obviously And with guns, we gotta get them off the street. Whatever you do, whatever you do please don't take a look at what's going on in Congress Please it is very important that you see nothing here. That's what happening Total acting and I guarantee you in 72 hours will never hear another thing about this at all We're never gonna find out about the guy who was shot

29:51 You know, unless there's a reason I guess for them to pull it all out. But it's just not gonna happen It's not going to happen sounds like you've stumbled onto one alright now do you want to hear the holder stuff? Yeah, Holder is a classic. So remember at the very beginning we talked about this? Oh actually I'll tell you what before we do the Holder stuff let's thank our executive producer. Okay good idea i'm sorry yes so we have a couple don't we yeah We have one that came over the transom and there are actually a couple there's another like two of them um let me get my sheets because we had some checks come in and uh we also had a couple late donations which will not be included

30:28 um... so let's start with uh... i said we do have a newbie did on the birthday list you can have to add another birthday okay well it's over my mind is that segment dot first of all we have a new night and executive producer for today shows richard scott bagwell boiling spring south carolina who gave us uh... one two three four five six hey we pay bills he says In a letter, I humbly submit my petition to become knight of the no agenda round table to listen for more than three years. It is past time for me to do my part. De-douche me please! Absolutely my friend. You've been de-douched Along with the knighthood i'm requesting karma from my current work situation it's long story but so i don't want to bore you with details and probably need to last longer than a week please well how much are we can be that but here is your karma

31:26 We, uh... He's actually in Spartanburg South Carolina. It goes without saying and I'll say it anyway you provide the best podcast in the universe and it is much appreciated well your support of the best podcasts in the universe his support is appreciated my friend that's awesome And he has a couple other notes at the bottom doesn't want us to read but he wants me to send him one of the bumpers Which ones? Like when we were driving into this car was sitting there talking with someone Just play the bumper. Which one does he want? Let's see what he says... Can you please send me an old bumper used to play occasionally, it's The Phone Rings Twice Kettle This is The Pot Calling It's an old classic I haven't heard it for a while either. There ya go! By your command sir Yeah if we put on the link to it you can just download it. I'll make sure its in the show notes absolutely

32:25 Okay, then we have a bunch of executive associate executive producers. We have one two three four five of them can Under Tari North New South Wales Merry Christmas from dread on Atari it you build out there Ken Alexander Kenneth Alexander and Torrey New South Wales No, hey merry Christmas from dread in terry. I will drink several pints to your health this Christmas And that's when you need to donate my friend Yes, I know it's when your one yesterday at these pints. He needs some karma for his home brewing no very good You've got karma. Good deal. He's in for $250. Noam Malinowski, in Winnemucca, Nevada. Nevada at 250 I'm not sure this is a lot but I wanted to ask anyway was hoping you give this producership to the memory of my cat Snuffles. Of course! Okay so snuffles gets listed as an associate executive producer he died on 12 8 11 I was wondering if I was able to purchase a knighthood and his

33:27 in his name or was only allowed for humans who have to have a meeting I don't know why not you got it's a posthumous night so it doesn't really yeah it's not he is okay also get a knighthood for myself and name him a squire thanks for considering my odd request just figured would be good way to preserve his memory for all attorneys good idea thanks for producing the best podcast in the universe and I wish all of you in yours very safe and happy holiday season. So it's Shire Snuffles who will be a producer? Yeah, okay alright sure. Frederick Gangnol in Wasaga Beach Ontario 220-222 sending in the note this is a check that came in. I've been a boner for far too long please accept this donation to help you through the holiday period only ask that you give me some karma to help me find a new tenant no absolutely You've got karma

34:22 You know gendered listeners looking to rent a one-bedroom apartment in was Saga Beach can look for my ad in the Barry section of Craigslist and Cut GG is this one with ITM and the title okay that makes sense Okay, so we're gonna need that kind of stuff a sustainable network of places to stay and you know Safehouse Network exactly the truth. Yeah careful then we had another intro over this transom for 262 from

35:03 Oh, Carrie Schoen. She's the woman who runs these marathons and then gives us some info. She went through Austria dipped into Switzerland in a new marathon ended in... No ran another marathon which started in Germany went through Austria dipped into Switzerland ended in Austria again once again I'm sending 10 bucks per mile and it shows 26 miles obviously, and I have NA in my ears throughout much of my training. This is what helps her get through these marathons. I want to mention this the people who like to run...I don't want to call up my husband as a douchebag yet for not having donated in awhile but I've got no problem threatening with the decrease in... Oh! In what? BJ's? Tent pitching better...originally says tit pinching crossed out. No tent pinching. Until he steps up

35:54 Hey, you know what I can imagine if you're running a marathon and you're listening to the show. He's like he is trying to run away Gotta run faster carry wants you to do the Hot Pockets Euroland tour yeah? I'll wait until after the apocalypse if you don't mind um Alright, and finally our last associate executive producer is David Yagley in Pleasanton California 20202. John and Adam here's a little bit of getting by money for the holidays just you say you guys say donations are typically low around this time of year but I think if you start bullying your audience it might actually help boost

36:32 donations by the way listening to this show makes my bogative commute painless hey now enjoy this haiku and keep up the good work no sixth amendment enemy combatant drone mission accomplished That's not bad. That's pretty good, so I want to thank these executive producers and associate executive producers for helping us and for joining the cause with their donations. Dvorak.org slash NA channel Dvorak dot com slash NA NO Agendas Nation.com where you can also pick up a slave t-shirt if you need one and finally the nojenttheshow.com has a donate button we hope that you continue helping us continue this dis... And if you just heard what Adam discussed about the shooter in Los Angeles I think it's well worth the price of admission much better use of your entertainment dollar.

37:23 slash and I was up until one this morning doing all that. I was like, oh my good. And you get out one of these say I do it once in a while. You hit that's the home run right there. That's obvious. Yeah yeah and its everything of course in the show notes at three six four dot NA show notes dot com another part of the service we deliver to you now in the new outline format which is pretty nifty people are liking the new show notes that we've put together for them. And I'd like to say these credits, these executive producer and associate producer credits they are real you can put them on your IMDB and maybe you too will be asked to shoot a phony Hollywood video. Yeah it could actually happen Of course you can always go out and propagate our message which is a formula Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Come one everybody! You know what you are

38:23 Shut up. I'm thinking of actually building that domain out because you know we can do individual pages and it'll be oh yeah That would actually be interesting. It's kind like the smoking gun site Yeah, dead whistleblowers calm he also registered brave nwo.com Brave New World Order very nice then we have sad news from our friend Ramsey who was running na social net

39:09 Which is kind of the no agenda social network. He says Adam, the spammers got the best of me a spam bot was able to create enough blog posts on any social dotnet 29 000 pages in one day that I was no longer able to delete the user because GoDaddy wouldn't increase my php execution time limit They then shut down my database because it was too large So it's unable to use a plug-in on the site to manage his spam The whole story here is the whole thing is bogative He says I try he actually says I had intended to send a message out to all the good slaves who had signed up It would be bogeyed if not too, but I couldn't even get into this site when the time came to send them ass email So long story short. I'm forwarding any social net to know agenda show comm if anyone wants to contact me They can go through my new venture which is after the beep podcast calm

39:57 It was fun while it lasted he says well and also if you gotta put those spam filters in early especially with some of these blogging packages If you mentioned this during a PR segment tell kilo thanks for everything. So there you go And then ending on a high note we want to thank Tristan here Who is also from Gitmo nation lowlands, and he has registered the following domain name points to no agenda show calm curry Dvorak consultancy comm so where we are in business John We are in actual business. So now people can find us, they can listen to our shows and go wow these guys sound great! They know what they're talking about and we will take you inside an actual pitch meeting later on in this show so Attorney General Holder that's general apparently two other douchebags on the hill he is testifying about Fast & Furious and they're trying to get him on gotchas

40:52 You know, by the way I think they're using that... since i don't recall hearing it much in the past. I assume that the militarization of the country is kind of confirmed by now calling the Attorney General general yeah he's not general holder no he's the attorney general because attorney general doesn't mean that you're like it's on a rank It's a position, it's your job. Yeah it's not a rank you don't move up the ladder I mean you get an assignment How about attorney colonel? What next this is a five-star Attorney General? The public health service is militarized and its all based on military conventions but the office of the attorney general is not No well but they have a lot calling him general particularly from the democratic side

41:38 So you remember on Thursday we were talking about the question whether he had to be sworn in under oath or not. And the chair of the committee said, no, it's because ISA asked this, if you're testifying to Congress then it's the same as being under oath but later on and I watched the whole thing and really did the work this week for your peeps Watch and see span so you don't have to this question came up later on before another another Salvo, and here's the little clip of how this was answered I just want to clarify your understanding of your being here today because there was some confusion. I think at the beginning Is it your understanding that you're here under oath that you're under penalties a perjury as to your testimony? I'm going to tell the truth sure okay

42:30 So you are, you believe that your here under oath? Is that your understanding? I'm not sure if technically under oath but i have an obligation to tell the truth. I need to tell it out thank you I hope so thank you now he wouldn't answer that no no he didn't answer that he said I'm on a technically know what I mean to tell the truth really of course this whole thing is bogus the whole thing is bogus he's lying he just standing sitting there lying So then we have Sandy Adams who is, she's actually former law enforcement. I believe she's a senator and her husband was killed and several of her colleagues were killed so she's pissed. She's really really really angry and she's even more angry... But she'd have to be a congresswoman not a senator or representative

43:19 in that hearing. Oh, I'm sorry... Okay iIm confused well she's a representative then yes you have any remorse for? I'm sorry that's not the right one here she is here we go somewhere along the lines somebody has to know something because this is an operation that's not just within our borders it's crossing international borders so what rises to the level that the attorney general of our united states needs to know What is it that you need to know about, that rises to that level? That you have an operation crossing international borders. You now say that you didn't find out about it until after the fact and after inquiries happened, after Mr. Terry, Officer Terry's death

44:09 What is it that would rise to the level that you would have to sign off on? I love this question because it makes so much sense. If you're doing an operation, You can't just be moving stuff into another country without them knowing about it and Holder is saying that he knew nothing about any of this. So, this is brilliant questioning in my mind. This a key question. Since going across international borders isn't one of them could you tell me what would be? Well first off... You are referring to these as memos they were weekly reports. Well, any operation Is there an operation that would rise to the level that would need your sign-off? Oh sure! There are things I have to sign off on But not this one The one that crossed international borders No

44:54 Would the gentlelady yield briefly? Whenever he's in trouble, then they always try to interrupt. Could I answer the question first? What one has to understand is, and I would urge you if you have not done this. To look at these weekly reports. Now he's saying the reports suck. And to look exactly what it was Mr Holder, I understand that you had weekly reports and I've got a couple more questions but I want to make sure that I get them in But i'm asking you and I ask you what would rise to the level for YOU to have to sign off on Because this apparently did not you say you had weekly reports that you didn't review and your chief didn't review so here is that's the question I asked me. So there is so I'm waiting to hear but While I wait for that answer, let me ask you another question because

45:43 One of my colleagues asked you about your emails and you went straight to your work email, hardly anybody has that. I'm going to ask you a very direct question. You have a personal e-mail account. Did you at any time, at anytime, e-mail on your personal account with Larry Brewer or Lanny Brewer and Gary Grendler in regards to Fast & Furious ever? Yes, or no. The young woman is recognized for an additional minute so the Attorney General can respond to her questions. I don't know. That's good. See there is the house if that was a Democrat run house she's done. She's done yeah you agree. Would you check and get back with us? If he needs some help I'm sure that your agency personnel can get into those computers

46:30 Now he has a guy behind him who looks like one of those three criminals in the you know That they're always after Scrooge McDuck's money like the chiseled face? Yeah, the Beagle Boys. He has that chiseled face and he keeps whispering in holders ear now is whispering like man you don't have to do anything about your emails man you don't have to do that no just no no no well with regard to provision of emails I thought i'd made it clear that after February 4th it is not our intention to provide email information consistent with the way in which Justice Department has always conducted itself the exception that I made

47:09 So what he's saying is that anything after the the memo February 4th He's not going to provide any information in the most transparent government in the universe. Yeah, so transparent yeah In the hope of the Justice Department would be seen as transparent was to go against that tradition and to make available... Tradition! The tradition. He went against the tradition. The tradition of lying. Yes. ...deliberative material around that February 4th letter, uh... So again as in when you were here before and I asked about a totally different issue You were saying that you refused to provide that information is that correct?

47:45 I didn't hear the whole, you were talking at the same time as me. And please, you have more time, I don't want to cut off your time. Thank you. I just didn't hear the question. Oh sorry. How about that? So he says this because he needs one of the Beagle brothers to whisper more in his ears. I didn't hear the question because ya know, The Beagle brother was talking to me Previously on another committee when you were here earlier I asked you another question and said you would not answer that question Now your saying that you won't provide those emails that's not consistent with whatever policy was previous. I'm asking you, if there is clean hands here will you provide those emails? What does that mean clean hands exactly well i think it just refers to...it could be some jargon that I am unfamiliar with but in other words he has nothing to hide ok because it comes back several times now that I have a clip but that was mentioned several times they talk about clean hand emails to this committee

48:40 As I said, I'm going to act in a way that's consistent with all attorneys general before me. That is not my question Attorney General. With due respect that was not my question. I ask you with clean hands would you supply those emails whether it is work related or personal emails as they apply to anything they had do with Fast and Furious? And as I said, with regard to the Justice Department as a whole. I yield back Mr Chair, I'm not going to get to you. As I said with regards to the Justice Department as a whole and I am certainly a member of the Justice Department we will not provide memos after February 4th and that is a way in which we are With regards to emails? I didn't ask memos, I asked emails Emails, memos

49:27 General's, consistent with the way in which the Department of Justice has always conducted itself in its interaction. What about prior to February 4th? The answer was no is that correct Mr. Attorney General? No but consistent with the way in which the Justice Department has always conducted itself this is not something I am making up in terms of new policy. But you used the word not and I took not to be no. Oh I said I'm saying no, but again consistent with DOJ policy. Okay hold on a second. Do we have the clean hands doctrine? Good good good from the search of the legal research website A rule of law that a person coming to court with a lawsuit or petition for a court order must be free from unfair conduct

50:12 have quote-unquote clean hands or not done anything wrong in regard to the subject matter of him at or her his or hers claim is a her activities not involved in legal action can be abominable because they are considered irrelevant it as an affirmative defense positive response the defendant might claim that plaintiff has a lack of clean hands. So what does this mean in this context? I'm trying to parse it myself but it seems as though, uh...I don't know not absolutely sure okay I can read his definition over and over again and I quite get about it. But I think he's had something to do with whether or not he is a liar because you're lying. He's a liar! That's what it is You are a liar but would you mind not lying for second? I think which she's referring to in this regard looking at the definition that they get documents without somebody mucking with them

51:01 Okay, without it being redacted. Yeah okay clean hands I guess. Two more short clips so this one is just the hubris one and then we have the final knife, knifing by by ISA. So of course we kind of already knew that now there have been several you know lots of people have died because of these 64000 and it is it came out in the testimony 64000 guns walk this is not just a little operation 64000 gun do how many guns that is? It's a lot of good a lot of guns are good guns too they're cheap John long guns This is good stuff come on

51:46 But of course, they always bring it back to the human element and they're all pandering for the cameras obviously. Holder has never apologized to Agent Terry's family. Yes, that part was brought up in the last testimony. Well they did it again Do you have any remorse for what happened with Agent Terry? Of course I do. Have you spoken to their family? Have you apologized to their family? I've had contact with the family that i'm not going into, The nature of my interaction with them is between me and them Why won't you just say yes or no You know, I'm not going to go into the nature of my contact with them. How they want to... if they want to reveal that people on my staff in addition to me are in constant touch with the Terry family But you've not apologized as far as I understand it? Uh..I will say that I have expressed uh...my feelings to them and I am gonna leave- You're the number one law enforcement officer in this country a law enforcement officer has died as result of a batched operation

52:48 It's botched by the way, not batched. If it's batched that means there was a whole bunch of them which could be true too I don't know Don't you feel some sense of remorse that you ought to apologize to the family? And i feel great remorse Great regret and I have expressed this To The Terry Family I'm not going to reveal to You in this setting Just real briefly The nature of the interaction That I've had with The Terry Family Then let me just ask you something about your opening I'm not gonna do This In front of media I'm not gonna Do it in front Of a congressional But you haven't apologized yet That's all I wanted to establish What He's filibustering. Oh yeah, he's yackyackingackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackingaackinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packaginga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga packinga

53:46 So I said who was of course the guy who has been employed by the evil forces from outside to remove holder. uh... he plants amin my head to consult the book of knowledge but when i saw it i was like a while ago you'll and sure that yeah you've been around long enough to recognize it when you hear it uh... as i think um... we are not going to be turning over materials after february are you aware that u r in fact by doing so in the fact that we already issued from the oversight committee is subpoenaed you were standing in contempt of congress unless you have a valid reason that you express it, that you provide logs which you refuse to put- provide for the uh... the other information. Otherwise you will leave the committee no choice but seek contempt for your failure to deliver or to cite a constitutional exemption." So this is about the email so this is good. Holder is setting up uh... ICE is setting him up uh... to impeach him essentially. "...the chairman's time has expired and the attorney general be allowed to respond..."

54:48 We will respond in a way that is consistent with the way in which justice... Now all of sudden it's we. Whenever you're lying, that's when you use the we word like we not me, we. ...department has always responded to those kinds of... That's not the question Mr Attorney General. Regular order Mr Chairman please proceed Mr Attorney General. Will respond in a way that other attorneys general have other justices... John Mitchell responded that way too. Regular order! Did you catch it? Yeah, John Mitchell responded that way hold on the 40 more seconds it comes back and then we'll discuss John Mitchell Was that called for? I mean, Mr. Chairman... You're bullying me! North Carolina has the time but i'm going to allow the attorney general do you have any further response to that question mr chairman To the question Mr. Chairman about whether or not he understood it was in fact an act of contempt unless they recited a constitutional exemption and still had responsibility provide us logs both which they are refusing to do in testimony here today. The gentleman from South Carolina's time is again expired

55:50 Do you have a final response, Mr. Attorney General? Ms Adams asked me about, Congresswoman Adams asked me about political points. The reference to John Mitchell let's think about that at some point, as they said in the McCarthy hearings, at some point have you no shame? What a douchebag! Give him the douche bag. We now go to our historian... Have you no shame? I've been put upon by horrible McCarthy hearings, oh my goodness. We now go to our historian in residence John C Devorah. How come this wasn't on the nightly news? Because we had to have a phony Hollywood shooting to distract from the gun discussion who

56:35 was John N. Mitchell, our historian John C. Dvorak? Well Mitchell was the Attorney General under the Nixon administration and was part of the Watergate cover-up yeah and he went to jail for it! And he did the same exact thing we're hearing from Holder almost too a T which is why ISA brought it up and they threw him in the slammer He was found guilty in February 1975 of conspiracy, obstruction of justice and perjury and sentenced to two-and-a-half to eight years in prison for his role in the Watergate break-in and cover up which he actually called the White House Horrors. So we're waiting for that meme to come back. Thank you darling! The White House Horrors... so this guy is a total A-hole. He's lying, lying through his teeth, lying

57:29 And you know if he was, if he had any of the which is typical of many of the Obama administration personnel had enough I don't know self-respect to quit. Oh well there is actually one more clip uh... chef chaffet a whole holder right when this thing broke she said this is that this is a huge group by the department and i quit iris on yeah not no no no one's even been fired over there it's not a single person where they're gonna find him so this is not going to turn out well if they keep this up in a few years of democrats get the house back this this is not ending social fit who i think his mexican himself he certainly looks hispanic

58:13 He's the one that has been enlisted in this whole scheme to discredit the president, which I thought was pretty good. Isn't it a reasonable assumption to suggest that it may have been guns from Fast and Furious because that uh... given the fact that they are over the course of last five years sixty four thousand weapons that have gone from united states to mexico i have a hard time believe mister attorney general told respect my time is short twice the president had states has gone before the american people and said that you had nothing to do with this you were involved in the warning gage yet you said you've never spoken to the president how is it that he would know but she haven't been about your involved in this any can make such a claim if you've never even spoken to us yeah does not work actually

58:58 It's magic! well the president is not magic it's here's how works if you're ever wondering how government works and here's how it works to get information from the justice department in a variety of ways we interact with the white house counsel's office uh... very frequently i don't know exactly what the flow of information is within the white house but he can find out about my state involvement matters connected to the justice department without speaking directly let me move on to area that you have access to obviously the emails of dennis burke on wednesday november twenty fourth two thousand ten he sent an email it said quote some of the weapons bought by these clouds in arizona have been directly traced to murders of elected officials in mexico by the cartels so katie bar the door when we unveil this baby and pat bachman dore and then they'll be

59:48 Oh my goodness. This is such a morass, but it's not on the news! It just gets better... It's not on the news you don't see a single piece of this A SINGLE PIECE I can't find it And I'm watching. It's not in the New York Times? No, of course not. They got the Saturday Times they get the Sunday Times right here... No, you know, if there is a story it's buried somewhere and I haven't seen it. The Sunday times are so massive that takes hours to get through it but could be in there. I have a little side theory on this remember Reggie Love was kicked out of the White House Oh yeah buddy buddy buddy love Yeah Reggie Buddy Love So I think that daily

1:00:27 kicked Reggie Love out so that he would not have executive privilege when it comes to being subpoenaed by the committee. Because Reggie Love knows, he knows that Holder talked to Obama about this He knows of these discussions and I'm... Why would Daley do this? Because Daley wants Obama out too! They all want him out. His chief of staff? Yes, of course! They all want him out. That's why he's been withdrawing now. He's done his job. Oh yeah everybody wants... All sides want Obama out because you know his contract is up it's no good. He's lost his nerve. He can't act anymore. It's no good. This is our president in his weekly address

1:01:19 Right, which I always got it. I was listening to it. I just said I can't find anything that clip Come on Did you watch until the end because at the very end again? It's like Republicans Republicans blow they're gonna Gotta pass the taxes let me see I'm Anticipating what you're gonna do go on time to do what's right for the American people No one should go home for the holidays until we get this done so tell your members of Congress Don't be a Grinch. Are you the President of the United States? Telling me a Grinch don't be a Grinch? Don't be a Grinch seriously oh my goodness anyway so I thought you were gonna bring up a clip that buzzkill jr. was predicting you do the fair share thing

1:02:06 No, where he says well the Republicans say I'm not tough but you have to realize that... Yeah yeah. I've blown up all the Al-Qaeda people with my drones yeah no he says he took them off the field off the field right? Do you have a clip? Off the field what does that mean do you have it didn't say killed him is it took him out of the field You have that clip? No I don't we were all predicting you're gonna be having this clip and I never could find the clip JC was telling me about it now Didn't know I mean there's only so many clips we can play. Yeah, it's true Already are you kidding me? I mean this holder stuff is long, but he's important to the crummy debates and I got a lot of clips from there I tell you I'd miss the entire day This is how this is how the show works John and I never talk ever

1:02:51 We just don't talk. Maybe one email about something, whatever and the minute we email about it of course then we never talk about on the show which is why it's dumb to do it. Right what was the thing I sent you? You said me about the drone. Yeah yeah yeah...I got my will do a drone segment when I got my talk to my insiders in Virginia Um, no. So you know I was doing this holder thing which took hours and then I was like oh my god the debates are on! Like ah don't have to worry about it I know John's got us covered Yeah well probably got you two covered so but let's take a break from this serious news Oh No hold on a second You can tell me that its time And now back to real news

1:03:34 I do want to mention that i did see the 3D version of Hugo and i recommend it to everybody in 3d. It's probably one of the greatest movies i've ever seen considering its rated G yep that's what you emailed us, you told us to go watch uh yeah if you go see it yet no no we didn't i've been clipping Okay, so here's the one that you did see which is an old movie. That was that buzzkill jr Turned me on to called they live John Carpenter yes with Roddy Piper the wrestler playing the lead actor We watch this entire movie It is the worst movie in the world it is but its got all the right has got everything going no I've got everything going for it however

1:04:18 It's like the other day because Roddy Piper is a wrestler. So there's a fight scene which is like 15 minutes It just doesn't stop a fight scene, but the whole premise is great the premises The government is using it has mind control signals through television, which is just fantastic and And if you have a pair of these special sunglasses, you put them on then you basically see every billboard says buy consume. You will obey literally you will obey But then you can also see the the evil elites because they show up is like robot faces like Terminator faces Through these glasses and it is. It's on Netflix. It is absolutely horrible It's a piece of crap movie, but what is that? It's worth watching if you can get through I had to watch you can't stop We watched it all the way through and especially the final scene I mean really and Nikki I look at each other like oh

1:05:15 Okay. I thought the final scene was funny! It's funny, yeah it's funny but... But I did get a clip! Oh nooo! I thought that the basic meme of the clip was what happened is the aliens have taken over the world and you can't see them because this crazy device And so they're hanging around, just being regular people. And then the elites as we would call them on this show have sold out to the aliens and they do whatever they want! Whatever the aliens want, they'll do it. So at one scene Piper and his buddy corner some guy in a big meeting of all the elites that are being lectured by the alien guys and he says let me show you what's going on

1:05:59 about uh... back room and everything that room of the whole operation and in the process uh... they you know they'd their but there's still against all this and i got a genet shooting him at some point but but uh... he He decides, you know when they turn on him he decides to give the spiel as to why the elites are in on this with the aliens because it's just the way it has to be and here is a clip. Holly works from there if she made it maybe we can find her then we can go up to the roof and break that signal man Wait boys wait your making a big mistake You made the mistake No no you gotta listen to me I thought your boys understood its business thats all it is You still don't get it do ya boy?

1:06:44 There ain't no countries anymore. No more good guys, they're running the whole show! They own everything, the whole goddamn planet, they can do whatever they want! What's wrong with having a good for change? And they're gonna let us have it good if we just help them... They're gonna leave us alone and let us make some money You can have a little taste of that good life too now I know you wanted hell everybody does Do it to your own kind What's the threat we all sell out every day much will be on the winning team See you boys Of course the movie is entirely based on truth, which is the best thing about it. Yeah according to Ike fantastic so

1:07:31 They're all reptilians. It's hilarious, but I like that last scene there was about the New World Order, the European Union and all the rest of it. And they got drones flying around and stuff... And they had drones flying around! Exactly you couldn't see them without their sunglasses but they were all over the place. This movie was like 1983? 1984? 1988 Oh 88, oh it was later than I thought Here is the Obama clip if you want him about taking players off the field we should probably listen to that Buzzkill Jr just sent me that in the back room here this was his uh... approach for policy particularly middle eastern israel and he's you know peace and i want to get your reaction ask osama bin laden and uh... that twenty two out of thirty top al-qaeda leaders have been taken off the field whether i engage him appeasement or whoever's left after asked them about that twenty two other thirty eight bad

1:08:32 And he took him off the field. Off the field? What does that mean exactly? Did he kill him, no. He took them off the field. Okay you were calling Yanis is falling apart This is no good. Come back, come back, come back! Yeah this is why I started the show off by saying the people who run our world are insane. Holder's insane Obama's insane. The Democrats they're all insane. And the fact that they challenge Congress you know the way they do and think they can get away with it...I mean I think the Mitchell comment was correct

1:09:09 Oh, totally! It's... Well you know what it is actually. Sometimes these things pop up too fast and I can't... There you go. I have one more insane comment. Lucifer was in Gitmo Nation Lowlands You know the cloven one? Yeah I know that. She's clopping around there, what was she doing? I didn't follow it Clippity-clop and well she... It's easy to you know if you're on your way to Paris to get some new wardrobe and your hair done Oh yeah that's right she's got to get some hair and make up She really needs it because she just like tying her back in a ponytail Because you know its dirty And then someone should just have the guts I think Huma is probably about to give birth Huma Abedin

1:09:58 Who of course I assert to what she may have been doing her hair for all we know no, no No, I think I think she's at home ready to pop And so she doesn't have someone looking out for you know like yeah Well maybe who are human normally was doing your hair? You mean that's what I'm thinking. Okay So she did the two of them you can see him getting together braiding each other's head over each other and then unbraiding and getting a little bit look how nice it looks and The crazy thing is I can actually see that. You know where you sit behind the other one? And combing her hair with a brush and Hillary cocking her head to the side as her hairs being combed back. It's so pretty, it's so nice Oh Huma! I love your youthful appearance So she's there at the National Security Conference in The Hague

1:10:52 Gitmo Nation Lowlands. By the way, because I watched the whole it's like a little almost an hour It was actually the candy man who alerted me to that and I appreciated it And then took awhile for the video to show up We finally got it so had to watch that too in this whole thing I mean if you just wherever whenever she said other countries some regimes have used filled in America It would make sense because it's all about, you know the internet and human rights of the Internet. And everything that is being taken away from us bit by bit is what she was saying other people do but she starts to conference off and this talk about words matter this blew me away. Good evening and its wonderful to be back in The Hague I want to thank

1:11:37 My colleague and friend, Foreign Minister Rosenthal. A long time friend and co-conspirator from time to time Eric Schmidt What? Longtime friend and sometimes co-conspirator Eric Schmidt from Google. Man, watch your words lady! Really what are you conspiring in are you a conspiracy theorist or are you just putting a conspiracy together? That's amazing that's a great catch that's one of...that's astonishing. Why is she glad to be back in the Hague does she go to miniature land or miniature world? Maduro dumb

1:12:19 Maduro dumb, I don't know. Maybe she likes it that way she can stand over the little towns and cities and feel like King Kong. Oh you know what she can do? Where is it? It's one of my classics I cant believe... oh here it is She goes to Maduro, if you don't know what it is consult the book of knowledge. Madurodam is basically a little miniature Holland and you can stand over uh... stand over the houses there and go I mean that's the landing You could stand over them and look at them We came we saw he died! He didn't have anything to do with the event Yeah exactly she was so evil Well she may be the next president that's the end our show She did admit

1:13:04 to supporting techno experts again if you're interested. Yeah, well she brags about it! Sorry but if people can read between the lines they would figure out what's going on but no everyone says oh that's cool yeah I want to highlight is a practical effort to do more to support cyber activists and bloggers who are threatened by their repressive governments like America. The committee to protect journalists recently reported that of all the writers, editors and photojournalists now imprisoned around the world nearly half are online journalists. Julian Assange. That is very real Now several of us already provide support including financial support to... Okay Activist and bloggers Yeah And I was pleased Hey why don't you support this show Lady MacDeath

1:13:58 Why don't you support the... we're online journalists. Support us a little bit! She'll have none of it. Another, just another little piece of proof that they are insane Well they're definitely arrogant to be commenting like that Doesn't care and all these cheeseheads For good reason because nobody is paying attention And people in the audience which was half empty by the way The auditorium which was weird And they had really long shots of people. Just, and I'm sorry these were cheese heads these were just drones sitting there like Lucifer we will do what you say support my blogging and we'll do what you want me to blog Disgusting

1:14:54 Alright, so debates let's talk about the debate was that the only thing I saw was like the bet that they made which? I thought was like There's a guy, one two... the Gingrich zinger is uh is I think the best moment was the gingrich zinger and we'll do that one then we'll do The Bet. And the gingrich this is what this was a good debate and the curious thing was it was an ABC debate with the same douchebags who would never call on Ron Paul or I could be wrong there were maybe some other douche bags who wouldn't call him so Ron Paul got plenty of time to talk oh good that's good and so it was good and he well in fact let's do a Ron Paul no no now I'm sorry

1:15:32 why don't let me jump around. Let's do the Gingrich Zinger I think it sets the stage and the tone for the whole debate. I believe i can take that message to our president and to the american people, and they'll say Mitt Romney understands the economy because he's lived in it! I understand a merit-based society. I believe in the principles that made America the greatest nation on earth and speaker gingrich and i have a lot of places where we disagree will talk about those. Why didn't you name them? Places where we disagree Let's see, we could start with his idea to have a lunar colony that would mine minerals from the moon. I'm not in favor of spending that kind of money to do that!

1:16:14 He said that he would like to eliminate in some cases the child labor laws so that kids could clean schools. I don't agree with that idea, his plan on capital gains to remove capital gains for people at the very highest level of income is different than mine. I'd eliminate capital gains interest and dividends for people in middle-income So we have differences of viewpoint on some issues but uh... but the real difference I believe is our backgrounds. I spent my life in the private sector I understand how the economy works. And I believe that for Americans to say goodbye to President Obama and elect a Republican, they need to have confidence that the person they're electing knows how to make this economy work again and create jobs for the American middle class. Your response? No. Just a second

1:16:59 You had four allegations, do I get four responses? Take your time. Okay let's start with the last one that... Let's be candid the only reason you didn't become a career politician is you lost to Teddy Kennedy in 1994. I'm sorry to interject. I have an emergency situation here the recording failed the recording failed yes on the recording that we've been making of this program I want to point out to anyone out there listening when i say i use a hard recorder and do these things that can fail too, so I am asking the chat room if whoever's backing up hopefully someone is recording this show. If you are using Windows Media Player at the end of the show you can do a save as please

1:17:57 Okay, right. Yeah Lone Squirrel is recording now. We've got everyone on the case Thank you so much I'm sorry I just noticed it now like this thing failed This is funny because we talked about this over dinner yesterday This exact same thing So maybe a vibe went out It's only happened once or twice before Once? Oh crap! I'm so sorry I just noticed like oh it failed It could be user error whatever but alright Lone Squirrel has it Is it back recording now Well, that makes no sense to record it now. Lone Squirrel is recording! No no it's good we're- It's good. I would like you rely on my temper back and pass anyway We're lucky So anyways so that was the zinger Mmhmm And y'know but you didn't hear it obviously Of course I heard it of course I did He says because you lost to Kennedy in 94 you douche Yeah That's why So again that set the stage for a lot of back and forth...I thought that was good You know even though he got a lot of boos and got everybody worked up And then you get to Perry Romney bet

1:18:55 thing which is was it was in the same vein Perry Romney no bet I'm just I'm listening to you Mitt and i'm hearing you say all the right things but I read your first book and it said in there that your mandate in Massachusetts we should be the model for the country now. And know what came out of the reprint of the book, but you know I'm just saying you were for individual mandates my friend You know what? You've raised that before, Rick. And uh... you're simply wrong. It was true then! No no. It's true now. Rick I'll tell ya what 10 thousand bucks $10,000 bet? I'm not in the betting business but I'l show you the book. I wrote- I got the book. This shows that Romney is a dick

1:17:57 Okay, right. Yeah Lone Squirrel is recording now. We've got everyone on the case Thank you so much I'm sorry I just noticed it now like this thing failed This is funny because we talked about this over dinner yesterday This exact same thing So maybe a vibe went out It's only happened once or twice before Once? Oh crap! I'm so sorry I just noticed like oh it failed It could be user error whatever but alright Lone Squirrel has it Is it back recording now Well, that makes no sense to record it now. Lone Squirrel is recording! No no it's good we're- It's good. I would like you rely on my temper back and pass anyway We're lucky So anyways so that was the zinger Mmhmm And y'know but you didn't hear it obviously Of course I heard it of course I did He says because you lost to Kennedy in 94 you douche Yeah That's why So again that set the stage for a lot of back and forth...I thought that was good You know even though he got a lot of boos and got everybody worked up And then you get to Perry Romney bet

1:18:55 thing which is was it was in the same vein Perry Romney no bet I'm just I'm listening to you Mitt and i'm hearing you say all the right things but I read your first book and it said in there that your mandate in Massachusetts we should be the model for the country now. And know what came out of the reprint of the book, but you know I'm just saying you were for individual mandates my friend You know what? You've raised that before, Rick. And uh... you're simply wrong. It was true then! No no. It's true now. Rick I'll tell ya what 10 thousand bucks $10,000 bet? I'm not in the betting business but I'l show you the book. I wrote- I got the book. This shows that Romney is a dick

1:19:42 I know, it's like two kids. Ten thousand dollars? Ten thousand bucks? You know we've done bets John what for like a dollar? A whole dollar that's just unbelievable and to me that you know i think they're gonna run with that and use that as you know he's an elitist! That's it when they make bets up there on their little podium there they do it for ten thousand dollars I want to bet $10,000. What kind of child are you? Yeah no I found the thing to be incredibly juvenile so meanwhile another thing happens where they all start going out or actually that the panel goes after Gingrich by asking about personal responsibility their relationships essentially skirting the issue but not saying Gingrich has been divorced twice married three times right

1:20:35 And his new wife is real, could kill the election if you take a look at her. She's weird looking. Yeah she's the one that has all the half-a-million dollar Tiffany bill right? Right and she's got those bug eyes and she's... Anyway so they bring up how important is moral reasoning to bring up all this kind of vague question and they ask everybody on the panel one after another what they think and nobody will just come out and say well I think this question is about Gingrich. So it finally gets around to Ron Paul, they let him talk about it and he deflects the whole thing because he thinks its bogus that you would be talking about this in the first place

1:21:18 uh... paul's and essentially defense gingrich until gingrich is happy to get beat up by everybody and then not it but paul turns into a nice talking point which is what we've always wanted to hear what we want here he started in the number times in this debate and this was this one here was a classic You know, I think character is obviously very important. I don't think it should be necessary to have to talk about it. I think it should show through in the way we live and I think it should show through when you're married and I happen to have been married for 54 years as a family person but I do not think that we should have to talk about But you know what probably is everybody's important if your marriage vows are important, what about our oath of office? That's where really gets to me. That's where you're really on the line as a public figure and that's where I think a lot people come up real short because there's many times that I've been forced into Congress because I take my oath very seriously

1:22:09 sometimes, believe it or not voting off by myself thinking that why aren't they people paying attention? Why don't they read Article 1 Section 8. You know if we took that oath of office seriously in Washington we'd get rid of 80% of the government, the budget would be balanced, we would have sound money and we would have prosperity and we wouldn't be the policemen in the world, we wouldn't have a Federal Reserve System and we wouldn't be invading the privacy of every single individual in this country with bills like Patriot Act we'd have a free society and a prosperous society. Yeah, absolutely yeah and of course everyone at home went like honey can you get me a beer? Exactly! We still have the people all around Paul, he's nuts he's unelectable. He's old

1:22:56 So I was looking at these guys, not to belabor the debate. That was pretty much the highlights. So i'm looking at these guy and their altitudes and watching how they're shooting this. They are shooting Ron Paul at a lower angle that No, it's a higher angle with less of the desk and the podiums. I've got this thing on tape It doesn't make him look so regal and presidential it makes him look smaller than then Gingrich who is probably the shortest guy out there but not only that but Romney and Gingrich because you saw the set right Romney and Gingrich when they took a shot of them And someone pointed this out to me They had blue

1:23:39 In the background. Everyone else had red. Which is a whole trick. I was looking at the camera angles and one of the things, first of all i did some research to get people's heights Do you know who the tallest one there is? Let me think... Maybe Santorum actually. Yeah, it's funny you would just think at San...Santorum is 6-4! Wow! He looms over everybody else but you'd never know that No of course not So doing some research this is the numbers I've come up with with some provisos Can I just say this is the kind of analysis that he will only get on The Best Podcast in The Universe Not even done with it wait until I do the photos and I start altering I got some geometrics if I can really get a good look at this

1:24:25 But let me tell you some of the stuff I've uncovered. Ron Paul's 6'1". He's actually the same height as... Wow! I've never met him, I've only spoken to him. I had no idea he was as tall as you are. You're 6', Mickey is 6'1", wow okay. I know who the shortest is that I know. Santorum is 6'4". Wow. Gingrich is said to be six foot so he is shorter than Ron Paul but Ron Paul looks shorter than him I'm thinking he's 5'10". Rick Perry says he is 6'1", but there are rumors that he wears lifts. Yeah, 3-inch lifts... Well, I don't think you can get a three inch in a foot, but you can wear a thicker sole and maybe get another inch. He is probably pushing himself about two inches so he's probably 5'11". Mitt Romney says he's 6'1", and he probably is six one. He might be six foot. Herman Cain was six foot

1:25:20 uh... and uh... huntsman was six foot so why everybody at least one you missed that you miss the shorty yeah i can't find her how as five to okay five two michelle bachmann where's my issue she brings it up now and if you watch the shot she's always standing on a box yes she they gave her a boxer yep is fine which is common in television and all apple crates yet And there's different ones. You have a quarter crate, half crate and full crate. Yeah! That is exactly... you're learning television ladies and gentlemen right here We don't know how to record the show but we sure do know television And when you are doing shooting setting up a shot in somebody way too short you just for you look at him again we need a half crate yeah half an apple crate or somebody comes out with this box and they are essentially apple crates that are little more beefy yep and their painted flat black that's right

1:26:13 and Houston the person stands on them and then everything looks even, that's what you want. You don't want something real short you know a mutton Jeff look no and so I'm looking at these shots in this parent to me that they're shooting Ron Paul shorts they're doing what they can lift the camera anything wherever it is yeah their doing there making Gingrich was standing next to him looked bigger uh... and and and again in the angles are interesting but when I was looking out was where the podium along the baseline of the video image. With Ron Paul, the podium was barely showing it was really reduced down which indicates to me that they had some funny angle and when Romney was up the podium you could see a good two or three inches of it it was up into the shot into the frame and they were making Romney look a little bigger than Perry when they had the opportunity to do something is something else I've noticed is that we had of course less candidates on stage if there

1:27:09 They're really, we already know it's a reality show but they're really making it look like people have been eliminated now which of course is the truth. So on the 15th which is the next debate which is Fox will we see yet another one off? Does someone get voted off? Another one off the island! Yeah does someone get voted off I'm telling you man. This is this is it's a I don't know how the ratings were for ABC? III think it was a very entertaining show, and I think it should have gotten pretty decent ratings I will say that after the Iowa elections there will be two at least two people voted off the island mm-hmm And we'll be down to probably I mean I think Ron Paul is gonna do well in Iowa I hope he does your ABC debate high ratings really oh

1:26:13 and Houston the person stands on them and then everything looks even, that's what you want. You don't want something real short you know a mutton Jeff look no and so I'm looking at these shots in this parent to me that they're shooting Ron Paul shorts they're doing what they can lift the camera anything wherever it is yeah their doing there making Gingrich was standing next to him looked bigger uh... and and and again in the angles are interesting but when I was looking out was where the podium along the baseline of the video image. With Ron Paul, the podium was barely showing it was really reduced down which indicates to me that they had some funny angle and when Romney was up the podium you could see a good two or three inches of it it was up into the shot into the frame and they were making Romney look a little bigger than Perry when they had the opportunity to do something is something else I've noticed is that we had of course less candidates on stage if there

1:27:09 They're really, we already know it's a reality show but they're really making it look like people have been eliminated now which of course is the truth. So on the 15th which is the next debate which is Fox will we see yet another one off? Does someone get voted off? Another one off the island! Yeah does someone get voted off I'm telling you man. This is this is it's a I don't know how the ratings were for ABC? III think it was a very entertaining show, and I think it should have gotten pretty decent ratings I will say that after the Iowa elections there will be two at least two people voted off the island mm-hmm And we'll be down to probably I mean I think Ron Paul is gonna do well in Iowa I hope he does your ABC debate high ratings really oh

1:27:54 Just hold on a second make sure I'm not looking at past 24 hours here Looks like Rudolph the red-nosed reindeer did better. Oh, yeah, of course People should have watched this though because Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer was in the guise of Gingrich Doesn't that say enough not only are our leaders insane but the populace is idiots And that's like a really old and crummy cartoon. Yeah, it was the 1970s version. It was really crap! Oh my goodness I can't believe this...

1:28:33 So the other big news, and it didn't creep in so much to this debate. I actually did creep into this debate and didn't get any clips from it was Gingrich making the comment...Gingrich still doesn't really want to run for president. He just wants to collect as much money as he can. Yeah, he's in the Clinton media camp absolutely! And yeah, so he is trying to get himself kicked out trying to kick off the island. I know exactly what clip this is and so he's got this, he decides to come on some Jewish cable channel. The Jewish news network yeah. A jewish news network. It's funny but i didn't get a real good clip of it but did get a clip of it Gingrich goes on, he decides really shake the dice and go with

1:29:14 Palestinians are bull crap, they don't exist. They're made up and this whole thing is bogus which I think a lot of people believe anyway but it's not like anything anyone would say especially a politician but just play the little clip that i have We've had an invented Palestinian people who were in fact Arabs and were historically part of the Arab community And they had a chance to go many places for variety political reasons We have sustained this war against Israel now since the 1940s. I think it's tragic." Not real! It was invented, it is made up. Who invented that? Who went into his evil shack at night and invented the Palestinians

1:30:00 So he's going for broke with some of this stuff and it just keeps getting him more traction. He's got the worst character references, he's got this crazy thing going on... ...and he's making crazy assertions about building bases on the mood and putting kids to work which is true And it's like he is just getting more popular. It's ludicrous! This is like watching the movie The Producers Well, actually its like X Factor where they had a sing-off between Marcus Canty and Sharon Crow And of course she was much, much better. But then they kicked her off the show and she of course is going to be the biggest star as this 13 year old girl. This is how it works! This is what you do! Gingrich's gonna get kicked off the island and he's gonna go on to make another hundred million dollars It's all gonna be great...it's all money still on Romney

1:30:50 Yeah, I do not. Well, I'm sticking with my Romney-Perry combination because another thing you notice if you watch anyone wants to watch these things You they always put Romney next to Perry and they have these little tatits titites that go after each other a little bit But when Romney's speaking... And there in the middle once again They're in the middle of the panel. When Romney is speaking Perry stands in a very interesting manner. He turns his body and he stands as though he is the second guy, he presents himself as a submissive character, he's not growling or grimacing or looking away like Gingrich does who just sits there and scowls

1:31:29 Gromney's like, or Perry looks like the good second...the good supporter. He has that just checked away Kerrys himself when Romney is going on with one of his long-winded explanations about one thing or another Can we switch gears before we get to our thanking segment here? Yeah I'm done with this Alright yeah well thank you for watching that so i didn't have too That's highly appreciated Of course now we have the National Defense Authorization Act which is moving through the process. Soon it will be landing on President Obama's desk, it has a high likelihood of getting vetoed because there isn't enough power for him in there and of course you know we kind of overlooked the whole fact that along with

1:32:16 $600 billion of your tax dollars that are put in there. It also has the 1033 program, which enables the Department of Defense to give away half a billion dollars worth of leftover military gear to law enforcement That's how they come up with the tanks and the grenade launchers. Yeah, give it to our local police department. I'll be yeah, they need to be armed militarized military Colonel Wilkinson uh... will kerson sorry who was chief of staff for colon powell was interviewed recently about the national defense authorization act in particular um... section one zero three one of senate bill eighteen sixty seven and as this is about the detaining americans on the u s battleground as gingrich calls it because there's a battle ground here it's aware war here in america against the terrorist and he really had to say i think it's another step on road to tyranny

1:33:19 I think the Patriot Act was a huge, giant step on the road to tyranny. I think things like this are another step in that direction. I find it interesting that the individual on The Hill who this week was holding a hearing about Muslims serving in the military and so forth, Representative King himself If this were a retroactive law would probably be in jail now for his support of the IRA After all they were a terrorist group recognized as such I just think it's it's the wrong direction completely the wrong direction

1:33:56 Of course it's the wrong direction and here is the thing, by the way in the show notes at 364.nashownotes.com we have an entire list of senators who voted for the Defense Authorization Act you might want to take a look at that and vote those people out of office So who are the seven that didn't vote for it? That I don't have. You're the ones voting. Yeah I could deduce it but heres what very interesting These people need to be voted out of office Heres whats interesting This particular passage, 1031 which states that United States citizens can also be seen as supporters of Al-Qaeda.

1:34:40 You know, if you're tailgating at an Al-Qaeda match on where Obama takes people off the field. If you're tailgating then you can...if you have a tailgate party then you could be deemed a supporter and you can be detained indefinitely. Get mo for you! This was initially the act said and this is amazing because Levin is about to tell us this Carl douchebag Levin Initially in the bill that passed in committee It said, this does not pertain to American citizens. That was the initial language in the bill that passed committee and said look if you're a terrorist in America we can detain you military panel all of that stuff not a civil judge and it's said this does not pertain to American civilians. I'm wondering whether Senator is familiar with the fact that the language

1:35:36 The language which precluded the application of section 1031 to American citizens was in the bill that we originally approved in the Armed Services Committee and the administration asked us to remove the language which says that US citizens and lawful residents would not be subject to this section. Is the senator familiar with the fact that... Can you believe that? So is Obama! Yes, Wow. And Levin says it three times just to make his point that was one. Administration that asked us to remove the very language which we had in the bill which passed the committee and that we removed it at the request of the administration, that would have said this determination would not apply to US citizens and lawful residents I'm just wondering is the senator familiar with the fact there was the administration which asked us to remove the very language

1:36:40 the absence of which is now objected to by the senator from Illinois. That was astounding to me! So Obama called up and said, hey I gotta get me these slaves in America too man i gotta get citizens you can't just leave that out Wow So, uh... Insane I tell you. They were saying a lot of time- I was going over that bill and there was like a Feinstein tried to put stuff in it was rejected and then it was just a mess And I don't even know what I'd like to see what the final bill looks like It's just obviously a disaster but this is another you know abnegation of the Americans rights to just be normal effect

1:37:24 If anyone has a chance who's listening to the show or is listening to the show this week and can catch The News Night from the BBC that will I think be running in reruns on different educational channels. There is very good report on the London and UK riots by some researchers trying to get to bottom of it, and I'll have some clips for the next show about the British police. It's it would they're all all the people that were involved in the riots, they say there are anti-police riots. Yeah! They're getting sick and tired of the cops pushing them around for no apparent reason and this is was a

1:38:00 it's a very eye-opening uh... rebut newsnight has its moments its asia says it's the sixty minutes of but in what i think that the what i understood this is cropped up and a couple other reports isn't this is to get more money for the u k police so they have more gear they need you know any ten dollars on the side like that if you see this report on their news night this is not going to be anything you're gonna want to give the please more money okay and i was extremely negative And I mean it's just sounds like the police are too many of them. They're out of control, they don't give a crap about anything and it is going to cause nothing but trouble and everybody predicts there's gonna be four out five other people that were interviewed mostly in confidence say there's gonna be more these riots until this ends

1:38:45 so that when you said this for years which is that the british public will put up with stuff a lot longer than americans will but then they didn't know yet legal nuts and they do and they were saying we burnt these buildings down for reasons where we saw cop car you know because we rather go after the police and we'd love to have brought down a police precinct building here so it's gonna it's an interesting situation evolving over there but also like to thank uh... couple of the military personnel who've emailed us about the repeal of sodomy between humans and animals in the bestiality is the word no but they don't say be still this a sodomy with humans and animals. The reason why this is being repealed in the National Defense Authorization Act, of course to comply with nothing to see here Don't ask don't tell the repeal

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1:49:06 And it should be able to get you laid at cocktail parties. I mean, come on! People look smart when you know about this stuff You just gotta ease into it Yeah yeah...be careful Don't go saying hey man that Hollywood thing that was acting That's not gonna work that is not going to work. You start off a little easier, don't you think it's a little peculiar that? Yeah exactly and then you can kind of... We need guidelines again John we need to send out people let me we need a guideline sheet let people kind of work it out for themselves as you kind of push them along the road too I was at the mechanics bank and setting up so an account and they

1:49:44 to hide from your wife? Oh yes, the woman who was setting me up with the account I gave her the no agenda card because now when i meet people I give them a no agenda card so you guys should listen this podcast. Me too yeah and she says oh that's interesting what is it about I told her she said all you know it's funny because and when I watch the news I've heard this all bogus and it's like everything's a lie really it's a bunch of people... Yeah! She went on and on like this and I said holy crap you're like a no agenda listener, you should listen to the show. Who was it? Who was it at the bank who was it? It was a little uh...I think she's either Vietnamese or Cambodian of the Albany branch. Oh because we have yeah um... It's Dao I think is her name but I don't know what's her name. What's our girl? Our girl is um... I'm blanking on and out for second Yeah the big beautiful black woman what's her name?

1:50:35 Yeah, her she's what is she does and you know it. She's honest did that? She won't get up. She won't get off the phone if you call her hi You know oh how's Mickey house Miriam? Cuz she knows she has all the legal names How's Miriam doing sometimes she says Mickey and then how's your daughter yeah? She's lovely Stephanie Stephanie Rogers That's her name Stephanie. She does everything she's awesome like it's okay I Know you guys are good for them I know you'll get more money soon. Yeah, that's how bad it is folks all right Dvorak org slash na we have a jingle to program your mind about the vorac dot-org Slash and a that has burned into your brain That's where we accept all donation support for the show and tips for keeping your paper dry Noah Jenna nation comm pick up a slave t-shirt by the way Eric the shill could you please send one of those

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1:53:11 of the No Agenda podcast in the amount of $1,000... more actually. 1-2-3-4 dot 5 6 Please extend your middle finger and kneel for I hereby proclaim the Sir Rodgers... Rod Richards Scott Bagwell Knight of The No Agenda Roundtable Sir Richard please take your place here for your hookahs and blow Your red boys and chardonnay And your hot pants and booze Lovely He seems to be in Boiling Springs, Spartanburg and Gaffney. He's a multi-dwelling dude he is. Alright! I did want to mention couple things that I feel bad that didn't go see Tanya had a presentation at her local bookstore so we missed that and she I know she listens all the time

1:54:03 I don't know where it was pronounced. Tonya, Tonya. I think it's Tonya. Tonya or Tonya could be Tonya could be but things go in and it's Tonya and I have to go too there's something happening here in Austin um where there is going to be a welcoming party on let me see what day is I think it's Tuesday yes Tuesday, a welcoming party for Attorney General Eric Holder who is coming in to visit at the LBJ. You won't get within a mile of the place! At the LBJ library. There's a guy listening right now who isn't going to let you near him. You've got to go ahead and heckle him. Yeah mic check!

1:54:48 Austin's great. We went to the farmers market yesterday, there was a number of them around here. Wow! I've been to farmers markets but this is real farmers markets. The farmers are there and they open up their truck and it just... And the cool thing about it is that they have a portable ATM so you can get dollars because you can't pay with credit cards or anything like that. It's on like 4th or 5th street in downtown Austin And you get some eggs, you get it in a carton that has the chicken's name on it. Who laid the eggs? Actually someone sold me some sorrel. Sorrel? What do they call it? Sorrel? Yeah, sorrel I'd never tasted that before! That's amazing You liquefy that and make into a great sauce which we poured over the chicken which is just outstanding Everything was in round numbers like two bucks

1:55:38 You know, it's $4. Why did you go there in August when the height of the tomato season? Texas grows outstanding tomatoes and melons! And what was really cute I was standing behind at the chicken lady a dad with couple kids and the chicken was six dollars that he bought and only had five and she said oh we have a special today We have a special and it is only five dollars And so they left and I said, here you have a special on the chicken. And she says, You know, I just would never want to embarrass a dad in front of his kids So, you know, I'd rather give it away than embarrass him that he doesn't have enough money to buy chicken

1:56:24 I'm like, that was a beautiful thing. It was beautiful! Yeah it's great! It really was. Did you buy chicken from her? Absolutely absolutely are you kidding me which we had last night with the sorrel as sauce it was just outstanding and its great you know you'd like 30 bucks you've done all your groceries for the week. It is outrageous prices are right this fantastic loving here and then we went to South Congress to do a walk around. They have real farmers markets in most of the deep south, yeah and Texas they have several uh not just on the weekend you know not like some BS like let's go to the farmers market classic farmers markets in San Francisco Bay Area is one at the Ferry building in San Francisco which is on Thursdays and Saturdays or Tuesdays and Saturdays I can't remember the two days down by the water it was a joke everything is jacked up instead of paying like

1:57:13 vegetable market and get a peach for, you know, buck 50 to $2 a pound. These peaches are 395 pounds. They're the same peaches totally jacked up it's all bull crap with it. It's organic. It's organic. Now it's not is full of jacked up the prices as all the women that are roaming around there off from Pacific Heights they don't know what a farmers market is their Chanel bags and they're wandering around like it so I'll take two tomatoes that will be six dollars every 1995 please But you can use your credit card, now you can't do any of that. So this is beautiful it was a total reaffirmation of how happy we are to be here Meanwhile John and were about to get into our presentation I actually wrote a blog post about this as predicted and i think It might even be in the red book im not sure

1:58:06 that the ESM, which I've dubbed the European Screwing Mechanism although it stands for Stability Mechanism has now been accelerated move forward and they created the big Euro pact. The compact, I'm sorry It's called a compact and i'm going to try understand why Which Britain has bowed out of? I want to do a little bit of analysis... Was there a Dvorak Horowitz unplugged this week? I didn't see one come through Yes there was Crap! Damnit Alright, so you guys might have talked about this if not or even if you haven't please listen to that show it's a very entertaining Here is haiku Herman explaining the new slavery That is going to be introduced into Euro land the 17 member states of the eurozone and already many others are committed

1:59:00 to a new fiscal compact. Now I looked up the word fiscal compact, uh...I can't find it anywhere and and it's just a trick its obviously a trick because I don't understand what compact means uh... I know there is a makeup compact that women use It means agreement but it must have some secondary meaning or code. It has a legal name believe me it's a legal thing that means it's binding in your screwed A new European fiscal rule to be transposed in national legislation. It is about more fiscal discipline, more automatic sanctions... Punishment if you're a sinner? Stricter surveillance! We will be surveilling you here! An intergovernmental treaty will make this agreement binding

1:59:55 in combination with secondary legislation and the firm political commitments this will give the fiscal compact its full force. An agreement, treaty or contract is like a treaty. The term compact is most often applied to agreements among states or between nations on matters in which they have a common concern. The Constitution, the U.S. Constitution contains the Compact Clause which prohibits one state from entering into a compact with another state without the consent of Congress. So it's illegal term because they couldn't call it a treaty

2:00:34 because if it was a treaty then everyone would have to vote on it, we'd have referendums which means the people would have to go and vote on it. It would take 10 years and no one wants to have that and everything comes melting down so... Yeah its' an agreement that they can get away with without having to... A little more of Haiku Herman here. ...over this treaty will be open to non-Eurozone countries except for when all are considering participation then early March at the latest this fiscal compact treaty will be signed. The ESM Treaty for its part will be finalized in the coming days." Alright, so this is where I was like oh boy! So there's a blog post that I wrote about this and there's a video you should see which explains in three minutes it's in German with English subtitles but just run through this for second and we have to consult

2:01:24 The consulting group has to get into action here. So the only country that bowed out of this compact is Britain and it's very important I'll tell you why in a moment so I read the fiscal compact agreement Which is also in the show notes, you can get the PDF there It's marked up for your convenience So this ESM European stability mechanism which forces all countries to immediately pony up 700 billion euros Which is open-ended They've put a new, and this was supposed to start in 2013. Now they're going to sign it in a few days so this has been moved forward accelerated and I believe on purpose A little extra line here in the compact In order to ensure the ESM is in a position to take necessary decisions in all circumstances voting rules in the ESM will be changed to include an emergency procedure

2:02:20 The mutual agreement rule will be replaced by a qualified majority of 85% in the case the Commission and the ECB conclude that an urgent decision related to financial assistance is needed when the financial aid, when the financial economic sustainability of the euro area is threatened. In other words In order to bail out the banks, now only 85% of the Eurozone vote is needed. And this is a QMV, the qualified voting majority which was agreed to in the Treaty of Nice gives everyone a weight so basically France and Germany would only need one more country to have the majority and that could be Italy Spain

2:03:06 Poland or a combo of two smaller states like Greece and the Netherlands. So in other words if they decide that the slaves in Europe have to pay more taxes to Brussels above and beyond this, the initial 700 billion euros which is still not been paid in then they can just say up you know but are three of us say you have to do it now Britain bowed out of this and I think there's a reason why The official reason, of course is that they would not get any protections for the city of London which is its own country unto itself. It's not really a part of Britain and I believe it's because the United Kingdom and the United States of America are actually working in tandem to ruin the euro

2:03:53 and uh... i think it now it's time to talk to our obama administration john i think we need to that we need to do a little of pitch here so they can how they should play things out over the next uh... over the next couple of months or year are you ready Yeah, just follow my lead. Okay? I mean just put your pinch nays on you're just the professor You have to look good. Oh hi. Hi mr.. President. Oh Valerie Jarrett's here nice to see you and hey Goolsbee I thought he were kicked out oh you're here anyway okay

2:04:28 Jean-Claude de Vorac is my esteemed colleague here. He is professor in, particularly in history, book rapology and bogativity and he also completely understands fractals and history so we'd like to... Jean Claude could you please hit the lights? Thank you thank you first slide please Okay, so here on this slide you see what normally takes place and where we believe you should go. We believe that you should have all countries in the world going to more debt and we really need to spin this debt up really really everyone has to own it has to owe all kinds of money to the banks and here on the next slide please

2:05:14 Thank you. On the next slide, you see what the collateral will be now Jean-Claude could you please explain typically what countries put up as collateral when they borrow money? Well they should put up their entire country actually yes the buildings especially the resources and also any contracts and obligations with other countries probably should taken and put into a escrow account so we can control them. Great! And then there'll be a long process of repaying the debt at a very exorbitant interest rate in such a way that it actually can't be repaid. Right, right... So what my esteemed colleague is saying is that throughout history I think Jean-Claude is saying this but next slide you see here

2:06:05 that typically when a country then will have to default then I believe is it who will become the owner of all these all these resources and buildings and in Greece's case even the assets of The Olympic Games which are depends on how we structure it But I would say probably the IMF and yes, if a bunch of big names banks yes very good right Goldman Sachs of course but what will they own they will own all that right though they'll own everything on the place right and then let's just let's take a little example here in the United States of Gitmo nation next slide please okay here we have California so California if they were to default what would happen with who would own California and who would be able to tell California what to do? Would that be the same people Jean-Claude

2:06:52 It would be a bank consortium. Great, great! So we believe... And by the way and there's banks that what really makes the money here is that you push everybody out of their homes and then collect all their...and then depress the housing prices as much as possible even though there's a shortage of housing in this population growth but the prices are down so you pushed it collapse the market and take up all the properties make sure he put some legislation so you can't taxed, the property tax doesn't really apply to the bank that now owns the building so we just default on that too and then grab all the property you can at a really low price and then start once it's all completely collapsed and everybody is out of their houses. You can start doling the houses back in crank the prices up now make them valuable and then collect all the money that's huge profits be made in this deal

2:07:42 As you can see, this is why the Currie-DeVorey consultancy is exactly the people who should be advising you through the collapse of the entire global financial and economic system. So we believe that timing for this, the timing we think should be around September or I think September, let's keep it at September. It could be August-September this is when we will have more downgrades of course well next slide please This is where we will have downgrades from the standards and poors and all your other friends in the ratings agencies which will essentially collapse the entire market Jean Claude that is a plan right? That how you decided to do that? I like the downgrade scheme Okay the downgrade scheme we think is very good now

2:08:28 You have done a fantastic job and oh hello Lucifer, thank you for being here. Lucifer Clinton you've really done a great job with demonizing Iran we think the United Nations report which contained nothing about nuclear weapons stroke of genius to say that you had tens of thousands of pages from other countries claiming that Iran has the bomb. By the way, nice touch on the drone! That is really fantastic we really liked that next slide please so the IMF of course will then own everything and you are in the pockets of the IMF but then Mr President there is one minor issue and that is your follow-on election we know that you wanted to quit

2:09:08 We have a real issue because the bankers will need you to stay on and of course your ratings are at an all-time low. Here at the Currie Dvorak Consultancy Group, we think it's a brilliant strategy again I go to my esteemed colleague historian Professor Dvorak here is his slide on the matter When the economy collapses what is the best thing to do Jean Claude? We have seen this two times in recent history I think that Haiku Herman, for the benefit of the success of this plan needs to probably have a

2:09:46 fake assassination. And that would be the start to what we believe should be the war against Iran in fact, We think if you can collapse the economy with your ratings agency scam in September What comes after September? Here it is seen this before Yes, we call it The October Surprise and we believe that as that is the moment when you should strike Iran Jean-Claude will you please explain the historical significance of The October Surprise It's well this it's been done so many times that has become a fractal and things always happen in October And that's to prepare the masses for the

2:10:25 Or for the insiders to know that, you know, in October you always have to be on your toes. And is it not true that in the United States of Gitmo Nation, uh... The elections typically take place in November which we have this slide here Which in the Western system comes after October and I believe Jean-Claude will back me up as a historian That um.. A sitting US president has never been ousted from power during a time of war Is that correct Jean-Claud? This is true. Yes, good point so a final slide please There you have it this is our logo as our website curry devora consultancy comm we hope you will consider our proposal and You can just click on the war act org slash na to donate to the cause lights please thank you

2:11:17 Well, that went ten minutes too long. That'll be our last Passion Play I want to warn people. Our last what? Passion Play! It was a play it was a passion play the type of play that they used to do in the Greek and Roman times. Yes well we're both old enough to have been through that. Tend to be corny yeah well it was corny but I think you can put that passion play in The Red Book I called the AT&T. So this is basically a long-winded prediction that there were, that the European Union is going to attack Iran or we are in October of this year, no October 2012? Yes after the global collapse around September It's a possibility! I believe that they go global collapse will take... They won't be able to hold it back and its gonna begin in January

2:12:14 They're gonna have to hold it back. If they're holding it back now and just to get through Christmas, they are having nothing but trouble I had the call of AT&T guy to turn on my daughter's text messaging in Europe because no way am not going let you rack up another bill with your freaking iPhone And then the guy is just like, he just went and did... I can't remember what it was but he's always said you have no idea. There are so many people over in Europe right now and they all want the text messaging plan and they're all going to this thing going on there like some really big about the financial industry. I said yeah well its this whole save the euro thing. He says yeah that's right! So the guys starts talking to me and he's in Oklahoma

2:13:00 He says, you know I had a guy who works with the Federal Reserve and he says oh you have no idea it's all going to collapse. It's all gonna come down and so if you know it The whole thing is all effed up. It's crazy We're all screwed and this guy's like well. I'm glad I'm in Oklahoma we got ten guns for every person here Like yeah, I'm a day house baby So it's everywhere its everywhere will bear I hope Comcast and Time Warner can stay on the air so we can have a show Yeah, what happens if they well they will there's a you know it only do effects really the Tight they're gonna be in business because the big media companies You know are part of the whole plant scheme. I think that's true. Let's stop They may be Throttling yeah here some more guys on Skype let's put two screws to them

2:13:54 Did you hear Bunky Moon? He must be listening to the show. Bunky Moon? Yeah, Bunky Moon. What did he say? Homophobic bullying of young people constitutes a grave violation of human rights! Brother... And people get mad when we talk about this stuff Oh, we had couple people quit they said You know I'm sick of your show, you hate gays What's the one I was in a last spreadsheet it was like some guy went up huge rant he had a couple we should probably um no he's like uh i'm never listening to your show again because you're anti-gay. It's like hello, I'm bi curious what the hell are you talking about? This is bullcrap! Adam is very pro gay yeah extremely pro gay opposite yeah and but you know homophobic bullying of young people that is not a violation of human rights. I'm sorry that's bull crap it is just

2:14:50 It's not nice. It's dumb, it's ignorant and probably done by people who actually have gay tendencies that's usually the way it goes yeah to look at the republicans in our own government all against gays then they're like you know tapping feet in the restroom for a quick BJ. No, no, no, this is the creature that big creature did there was a documentary about the guy and he was completely gay but this is very dangerous because this will eventually remove the right to free speech

2:15:29 Bullying of this kind is not restricted to a few countries but goes on in schools and local communities in all parts of the world, Mr. Bunky Moon said In the message delivered by the Assistant General for Human Rights Ivan Imanovich To a panel discussion on ending violence and discrimination based on sexual orientation Well violence of course is illegal It's illegal! Violence is illegal Yeah well it's illegal already so why add the proviso? Because it's about removing your right to say anything. That's exactly what it is I'm gonna read a note from someone who said was a I might do this once in awhile, but I don't encourage it Okay, sir chase and Ruz Dilsky sent in the small donation But he was drunk so he thought this was if we got a zero

2:16:19 This was last week. He says, okay so I know this won't get air on the show but and i think he wants some karma that's the reason I'm bringing this up because I think we should probably help him out here because if you listen to his plea you'll see why. Okay. I don't know it won't get out of a show but I'm a college student who is drunk as a Rick Perry at a debate in neck deep and dead but the Coors Light is making life a lot easier. I'm right in the middle of episode 360, the Anderson Pooper episode and I need to redact my douche status. If you can think about giving my friend Samantha known as Sam Karma because she's going through a bad breakup with her boyfriend of almost four years and send me some karma because I haven't had sex in 14 months

2:16:58 and maybe this might increase my chances. If this works, in other words if you have sex with Sam I will send you a magical $69.69 to show my thanks so i think it's worth the investment You've got karma. Can you just imagine like your Samantha and you hear this? Like what well he's a knight, he can do these things actually his fifth was not really a night He wants to be a knight. All right so anyway it's just a little call out for somebody out there in trouble So normally this would be under drone nation but actually I think that its more under all aboard

2:17:37 trains good, planes bad. A lot of drone news popping up yeah and there's a couple of irritating ones here's the first one popular mechanics which we know is a total New World Order shill publication who you know they think steel buildings on fire evaporate They wrote their report of Air France 447. This is the airbus that went down in a crazy manner, so they give the transcript and everything and they draw the following conclusion

2:16:58 and maybe this might increase my chances. If this works, in other words if you have sex with Sam I will send you a magical $69.69 to show my thanks so i think it's worth the investment You've got karma. Can you just imagine like your Samantha and you hear this? Like what well he's a knight, he can do these things actually his fifth was not really a night He wants to be a knight. All right so anyway it's just a little call out for somebody out there in trouble So normally this would be under drone nation but actually I think that its more under all aboard

2:17:37 trains good, planes bad. A lot of drone news popping up yeah and there's a couple of irritating ones here's the first one popular mechanics which we know is a total New World Order shill publication who you know they think steel buildings on fire evaporate They wrote their report of Air France 447. This is the airbus that went down in a crazy manner, so they give the transcript and everything and they draw the following conclusion

2:18:24 After this accident the million-dollar question, I don't know why it's a million because they're popular mechanics. I guess they know but it makes sense The million dollar question is whether training instrumentation and cockpit procedures can be modified all around the world so that no one will ever make this mistake again or whether the inclusion of the human element will always entail the possibility of a catastrophic outcome So, they are now on board with the unmanned aerial vehicles. Then we have the IEEE. Now this is an engineering organization is that correct John? Yeah they're the big ones. The IEEE as it's referred to by the insiders. They have a website and magazine Spectrum and here is their quote that they got from the CEO of Boeing Airlines

2:19:17 In the sphere of commercial flight, too, automation has thinned the cockpit crew from five to just the pilot and co-pilot whose jobs it has greatly simplified. Do we even need those two? Many aviation experts think not. Where was this? This is in the IEEE spectrum, brother is in the show notes of course a pilotless airliner is going to come it's just a question of when said James Alba president and CEO of Boeing Commercial Airlines in a talk he gave in August at the AIAA modeling and simulation technologies conference. I miss that one in Portland

2:19:58 Last quote, you'll see it in freighters first over water probably landing very close to the shore. So this entire drone thing is a setup we will fly on drone everything's going to be a drone in fact the police in where was this Nelson County Washington Armed with a search warrant, Nelson County Sheriff Kelly Jahnke went looking for six missing cows on the Brossart farm in the early evening of June 23rd. Three men brandishing rifles chased him off, he said. Janky knew the gunman could be anywhere on the 3,000 acre spread in East North Dakota. Fearful of an armed standoff He called in reinforcements from the state highway patrol a regional SWAT team A bomb squad Ambulances and deputy sheriffs from three other countries He also called in a predator bee drone This was for some guys who just said get off my property? Because six cows went missing

2:21:06 They pulled it so they called in a predator, not just like a little camera thing. A predator drone! I mean... What a waste of the taxpayers money. It's all gonna end when we're dead broke and bankrupt as a country So this um So you be by what you're saying in turn or implying I would think about the whole Iranian thing which we're gonna have to talk about for a minute. Yeah, and I do have a clip good Which is kind of sets up the whole thing and it's got a couple misleading piece of information It's on done by Anderson Cooper. Of course

2:21:42 was that these things are so amazing, these drones and you can imagine a pilotless aircraft because it was parked on the tarmac with his wheels down and apparently landed in the middle of the desert. No problem! Didn't get dented. Nope How did that work? The stolen drone you mean? Yeah Okay So first of all it has its own Twitter address You realize that right The drone is tweeting. You sure? It's not just a hoax, it's... Really?! Yeah! It's very, very funny actually. I forget what it is. Yeah of course it's a hoax but the drone is saying stuff like boy this lack of sleep mode deprivation is really getting to me you know he's talking back to the story okay so let us set up your clip and then I have information from inside background for people didn't follow this this lost drone this drone was apparently we have a drone stealth drone that somehow instead of going through his failsafe

2:22:45 process, in other words it lost contact with the headquarters. It should immediately at that point... Return home? Return home and goes right into the GPS mode turns around and goes home and lands that's what they do this with their coded to do and that's why if you have them flying around the US and you can send up any sort of be scrambling beam up and aim it Adam it'll just turn him off and go away and then if there was something really bad with it would've crashed and or you were to land in the middle of nowhere, and not necessarily give out a signal where it was. But somehow it landed right into somebody's backyard and they, Iranians picked it up and rolled it over to the... It didn't take off again or anything I mean this whole thing is just so weird

2:23:30 Bob, here's the clip. Do you agree with that? That this is technology that the Iranians might share with the Russians and Chinese? Oh absolutely! I mean if the Iranians themselves can't get into this and figure out how it works they'll invite the Chinese in from one of these peristatal companies They'l look at it And this is extremely damaging because his drone had thermal imaging cameras The resolution on the photography is very, very good. And as we know it's the same drone that was used to surveil Bin Laden's compound before the raid. I didn't know that. It's bogus! A key role in collecting intelligence as it does against Iranian nuclear facilities So Bob, countries like China and Russia they don't have this drone technology already? Not this good no We truly are at the best we've been working on for 10 years It has been a key element in the war in Afghanistan and Iraq And over the tribal areas of Pakistan Yeah...I think this is another intelligence catastrophe Well No

2:24:33 No. So I spoke to my insider who works in Virginia. Nuff said! Right? And so I said, hey is this because obviously the drone should have flown home. So the only thing that could happen is that someone intercepted the signal and then steered the drone away and then had it land nicely. They would have to have all of the decryption and encryption information assuming its encrypted. Thank you remember that I think we were Related on the show that often it's so buggy that they just turn off the encryption just to be able to fly the thing. So I contacted The Drone Insider and The Drone Insider, and I'm just gonna quote verbatim about your question I think the people running the drones are super incompetent and have too much going on when it comes to academics supporting them with intelligent solutions

2:25:29 Then they don't even know how to manage it after they acquire it. Sometimes they get this research software, get it almost free and don't even update it! Also anything leaked to the media is always an inside job I can't even confirm if this stolen drone crap is true And I'll take that as... They don't have no drone They didn't get no drone It's all just another PR campaign Well that would make more sense than what we're hearing This drone lands pristine condition. We see a bunch of pictures of it, but who sent us the pictures? Yeah and it's just another thing to slam Iran so we have another thing against them I... Have we heard anything do is there any Iranians that listen to our show or are there anybody that would maybe this is this news on the Iranian media we can figure that out will look at that after the show

2:26:22 Oh, and then again you know the whole thing it could have been a real drone that they do have that has got nothing going on. I mean just like let's take this cool drone and give it to them! This is a cool drone, man. Hey! It's a cool drone. Let's send it to Iran and let it land over there act all like its like a lost puppy And put a bunch of gear and crazy things in there that says some weird stuff on it Like you know thermal imager and its got some crazy circuit in their Its really old Z80 computer or something and let them suffer with it. It's a BBC spectrum I mean, it could be misinformation drone you put that at...you know why not? And then they can also see where the channel is Does it end up in China Is there something coded so when you turn the circuit on does it send a signal to the internet and say okay here I am move me to China I'm in China China I mean there are lots of ways doing that That what I would do and set it up so whole thing as a honeypot Right

2:27:22 Let's see if the Russians and the Chinese or the Chinese are in bed with Iran exchanging technology. This is one way of finding out there is hope though We were having a coffee at Joe's Yesterday I was sitting next to a guy and he's like, you know It is this kind of outside thing we drinking coffee and say it's not a Kindle fire He says no. No that's a nook. I thought it was a Kindle fire very similar Yeah And then he said something about as a pilot and like oh your pilot And so he's actually the FAA check airman for Falcon pilots. And so we're talking and he has like three kids, older. He has three kids in the debate team who were...he's from Dallas so they were debating in Austin and you know whatever it came around to some no agenda crap and he says my kids they think all this drone stuff is just to get us all used to the fact that we're going to be surveilled all the time I'm like wow that's nice The new generation even though they don't give a crap

2:28:20 That's the thing. They all say, oh yeah I don't give a crap. They will give a crap eventually just like the British kids Yeah Oh yeah they will And this non-violence thing that is going to end Two more iterations of these protests which will happen At some point that is going to be the end of it We're gonna hear when we get some clips from this special report These kids are burning stuff down on purpose Last item for me, the National Institute of Standards and Technology known as NIST based near Washington DC. Near would be like in spook town

2:28:56 is expected to conclude its long-awaited report this month that will state that ordinary fires caused World Trade Center 7 to collapse which would make it the first and only steel skyscraper in the world to collapse because of fire. So, The Ministry Of Truth... Before we finish the show a couple things one I want remind people if they're in the mood for Joining the cause, joining the show actually and donating. Tomorrow is 12-12-11? Well today is... if you're in Europe... Today's 11-12-11. 11-12-11 if you want to do it that way. And tomorrow is 12-12-11 or 12-12-11 either one. Yeah so there are twelve twelve eleven or twelve twelve eleven if you want to flip them date into month

2:29:53 Thank you for that. Alright, so um... I want to mention a couple of things before he finishes One there is no Syria in the news No At all In terms of the New York Times they just completely bumped it I looked and looked I couldn't find it in the saturdays Yeah Syria has been voted off the island But there was a very good article people should go check out National section of the New York Times on page 6 and it's Sunday paper, and they're making this a la fees Which are a radical group of Islamists that are essentially the wahhabists Into what sounds like a political party when they're not And you should read that article and I'm gonna try to dissect it for the next show nice

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