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00:00 You look too much like Gaddafi, they'll catch you and shoot you. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, December 1st, 2011, time for your Get Mo' Nation Media assassination episode 361. This is no agenda. Rabbit, rabbit and bunny bunny from Camp MoFo in Austin, the capital of the lone star state. In the morning I am the lone wolf bellendrin known as Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I have nothing clever to say, I'm John C. Devorak. In the morning to you, John. Sounds like a machine gun. Yeah, that's what I got, man. That's what I got here in Camp MoFo.

00:43 Hey, by the way, I got a nice housewarming gift here from producer Josh. Yeah, pot? No, you know I don't smoke the pots. No, he gave me the judge. Oh, he gave you the judge with some 410 shotgun shells and with some 45s long the long the long cartridge the long the big one the big one the big He said and this is and he said and these are the four Magnum 45 I don't think it's Magnum, but it's long well I'm sure maybe it'll hurt when you shoot it. Yeah, yeah, and he gave me the 10 here's the

01:23 Here's the ones you want to use for home intrusion. This is the 410 shotgun shell with a slug. With a slug? It has a slug and six pellets. So it's like... Wow, it's a combo. Yeah, at first it tears your arm off and then... Infects the wound. Immediately Mickey's like I has take some pictures man. Did you see that picture? Yeah? I did it's it's pretty It's it's it's captured you it's our so my wife you in the olden days used to have a shotgun filled with When she had it she before I met her she did in his house when she was in the comedy filled with She was in the comedy business. That's why she needed a shotgun yeah for those damn time. I can feel with salt and

02:07 What do you mean with salt? You can do that? It's one of the things you do because it makes it so you can shoot at people legally I think in Oakland. With salt? She had some guy in the backyard and she pepped, she blasted this thing and hit the guy. Yeah, salt. How do you, can you, do you have to load those yourself or how does that work? I think so or somebody does it for you. I'm not sure I've ever seen it for sale. Well ask her. That's interesting. I want to get me some salt. So instead of birdshot, which would happen a normal shotgun shot. This is salt And it would be just like not is non-lethal, but it's apparently quite painful Yeah, no we don't only creates the wound but put salt in the wound at the same time. Yes See we don't do that here in in Austin. We just you know we just go for for real screw you man Get off my get off my turf blow your arm on a tough guy all of a sudden you just move Yeah, I am a tough guy

02:58 That's what we're like here, good old boys here in Tejas. It's so nice here, John. It's so awesome. We really love it. We'll see what you feel like. We're making bets on how long you're going to be able to put up with Texas. I gotta tell you, we have a pool. It's like a dead pool. At the family, you mean? Yeah. You know, you shouldn't be that way because Washington State, in particular the Seattle area, is Austin's sister city. No, I'm not. It's not us or Austin that we don't like. Texas or Austin specifically. It's your never-ending need to move from place to place. You're like a guy on the run. I'm a gypsy. A guy on the run. Guess what's being set up for me? A lunch with Rick Perry.

03:50 No, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I can't wait it's gonna be fantastic. How are you gonna get a lunch with Rick Perry? Well this you know the the no agenda producers here they got Paul man. It's it's it's quite amazing Are they trying, are they Rick Perry fans and they want to... Adios, mofo. No, I don't think... And they want to change your mind about the man? Could be, you know, there's like, well, you know, he is actually a nice guy. I'm sure he's a nice guy. George Bush is supposed to be one of the greatest guys to hang out with. Yeah, I'm sure he's a nice guy. I think the only guy that's probably a douchebag to hang out with would be Al Gore.

04:29 Well, I can mention a couple others. Did you see that Ann Coulter called Newt Gingrich a douchebag on Morning Joe and they bleeped her? Oh really? There's no good video of it because they have it on a 7 second delay and they just go silent, right? But she called him a douchebag and they bleeped it like that's some horrible thing. Wow, what a bunch of wimps. It's cable! Thank you, it's MSNBC. No one's even watching. How can you offend anybody? It's ridiculous. I did not know that. Did she make a fuss about it? I think she makes a fuss about things that she buys. Of course, she loves doing it after the fact. Like, I can't believe MSNBC bleeped me. Of course, she's right. Guy's a total douchebag.

05:19 Yeah, I know he is. And now that Spermin Herman is gonna drop out. Spermin Herman? This is my new name. Did you dream this up or is it on Texas talk show radio? Honestly, it's not on Texas. It's the neighbors calling that. Spermin Herman. My neighbors. There was a guy walking down the street with three dogs and a goat. I love Mickey in the camera. It was too late. This place is great man. Street dogs and a goat. Let me walk the goat. Hey honey, I gotta go walk the goat. It's beautiful man. It is beautiful. We're very happy. So you can place all the bets. Can we get in on this pool so we can win it?

06:07 No, because then you'll, you'll, no that's like, you know, it's one of those things where if the person's in the, it's like, it's like, it's like betting on somebody leaving, you know, it's a discontinuity. When is he going to do something? And he's in the bet. He's just going to do it on that day. It's not fair. You can't be in the bed. You can't even know what the bed is. Well, can I, can you and I like team up together and we can do something on the side so we can beat your wretched family who's apparently... Oh, and then we can send you half the money? Betting on my unhappiness. That's not a bad idea. Betting on my unhappiness. This is wrong. I've got you down for long. You're long on Curry and Austin. I'm on your side.

06:45 He's long on curry and Austin a it's my it's actually Mimi. She's just eye rolling. You know you'll be out of there She is the bird lady from Alcatraz. What are you talking about Mimi's? Understand this hate it down there. No. I we love it man so far You've only been there a week to to it's like puppy love to and they called it puppy In the morning to you John. In the morning to you Adam Currie and in the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground around the world listening to us on Armed Forces Radio. Really? And also...

07:23 Also feed in the air wouldn't that be awesome if we were on armed forces radio that was a set up in the day In the morning to all the human resources in the chat room good to see y'all in a quorum all lined up ready to go charged as your government loves you Depleting your nine point two million dollar value at no agenda stream calm no agenda chat net and to kick it off John I figured we do something just a little off off color. Are you familiar with yogi Akal? It rings a bell, but no. Now these are two YouTube videos that apparently have been up for a month or two and with like no views and I can't believe no one had alerted me to this previously. Yogi Akal is a numerology yogi. You know how I like the numerologies.

08:11 And he does readings and talks about people. He'll basically give you a numerology reading based upon your birth date. Now, do you believe in any of this stuff? I like to play with it, but I really don't believe in any of it. So in order to promote his services, and I think he's $45 a pop for a simple reading, he has done the numerology of tech leaders, including Mark Zuckerberg. and John C. Dvorak. Oh, and and I and I heard this and like, you know, of course, the question is, does he have your real birth date? Because, you know, I don't know. You could be 34 for all I know. You could be 79. So I don't know. Both are possibilities. Whatever's on the Wiki page, I think, because it looks like he got pictures from the Wiki page. And would you like to hear your numerological reading? I'm absolutely riveted here now already.

09:12 Listen up. John C. Dvorak. I've just received this birthday, it's the first time I've looked at it. This by the way is, that's always a, you know, whenever they say that, I've just received this, I've never looked at it, that's always kind of suspicious. Yeah, sounds like, yeah. So I'm going to do a quick analysis of it and hopefully that'll be useful to John, perhaps useful to you as well, for those watching. First of all, when I look at this, John, it's like looking at the Beach Boys.

10:01 This caught my attention as you can imagine. That's the kind of energy that you have. That's the kind of person that you are. I don't know what you do in your world. I don't know what your life is like. But you ought to have some of that music around and hopefully you're in California a lot if if you're not surfing you ought to be singing it's just Singing yeah, is he referencing the Dead Beach Boys or the ones? Your life you're a communicator you're or the crazy one was it was a Dennis Wilson who's completely bonkers Brian Brian voice has to be used you have to be heard mm-hmm And you have to be heard now. It's good. This is good listen up. It's really good. Yeah

10:39 Yeah, this is typical. The kind of impact on people that somehow makes them feel more acknowledged in their life. It's a very powerful combination of healing and good business. You have power. Now this year, 2011, is your year to plan ahead. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 years. This is not a year for you to be thinking about tomorrow or one year ahead or how you're going to feel in two or three years, but how you're going to feel in a decade, a decade and a half. how you'd like the world to be because you're an influencer there. You are! In 10 years or 15 years and make your decisions this year and next year and the year after based on that longer-term vision. This is an important process for you. Yes. Because at the beginning of your life you were living in a little bit of a mystery. Oh! Now you're living in a place where there's a great deal of

11:32 sense of self. Yes. You know who you are and you're going to move into a whole other stage of your life over the next 10-15 years where you have much more power. Now I'm not saying power to control, but you have more power. You personally within yourself more energy, more vitality, more influence, more impact. What a good place to be. Yeah. And this is your year to work. Forget vacations. If someone offers you a trip, only do if it involves work. This is totally you. It's like forget vacations. That's all I've ever done, so what's new? If you're involved in any relationships, pay attention to the detail and the diplomacy of every relationship in your life. But don't try to make anything permanent right now. You should have some fun. Fun! You should be singing a song and you should be...

12:20 surfing on your phone on your phone this is tech numerology you should be surfing in California on your phone John I'm telling you people who are listening to this will think it's they think it's pretty accurate I think it's no in fact I think it's very accurate Really like it. It's a lot of general stuff, which is typical I used to remember that guy Edwards who used to be crushing over and he had his TV show and all no I'd always figured you know if you've ever listened to one of these guys doing an analysis of someone else Imagine that they're doing the analysis of you and does it apply and you'll find that 99% of the time it does Would you like very generalized?

13:07 Of course, well, you know, you say that fortune tellers like to do it. You say that you say that from your money. You say that. But the yogi also did a reading of me. View yes as a tech influencer Would you like to hear the numerology? Yes Welcome to tech numerology. My name is Yogi. Akal. It's clear The guy doesn't know me by the way because he's mispronouncing my name is like Adam curry. You know it's like totally wrong That's that's a scam. He does that I'm well listen to what he says today We're looking at one of the influencers in the industry Adam curry

13:44 My producer gave me his birthday. I'm not familiar with this birthday. It's the first time I've seen it So I'm going to give you an immediate take on the numerology for this person this person see how you can connect to that Okay, connect He's looking at his look at a piece of paper, and he's in deep thought here There are some people who have a flare with words, huh? And others who tend to be reactive to words, but what happens when you have both? What happens when you tend to be a little reactive, but you also have a flare? Hmm. You have to be careful not to flare up. This is the most important thing for Adam Curry. Correct. Because he has the facility in his life that what he says can happen. Yeah, I have power when I say it, it can happen. It's quite a power to have in one's life. Yes. But if you don't master it and you don't master it as a careful study. Then it's a weapon of mass destruction. A careful discipline, it starts to work against you.

14:45 and then you really can't believe anything that happens or what anybody says to you. So Adam, this is a special challenge in your life. Yes. Now everybody can relate to this because everyone has had the situation happen to them where someone doesn't tell them the truth or they're not sure about the integrity of what they're saying themselves. But for Adam, there cannot be a compromise on this. No. Stop compromising. When there is a life of success, you cannot allow anybody to infiltrate that life. Exactly. So Adam, this is the key to your happiness. You gotta get rid of Mickey? Stop infiltrating my life, Mickey. Go away. He gets a genius thing in a minute here which you're gonna love. Happiness is something that you get to manage. You also have an impact on other people's happiness, on their state of mind. I agree. That doesn't mean you're responsible for it, you're not.

15:40 but you have an impact, not just professionally, not just personally, but on a deeper level. See? A deeper level. I have an impact on a deeper level. How you think and what you say has an impact that lasts. That's quite a position to be in. And it has to be through the written, spoken or visualized word. In other words, it can be done through radio and television. What? Well, no, listen, he explains it. It can be done through the internet, it can be done through spoken word, it can be done through written word, photography, anything that has to do with the media arts is what works best for you. There you go. That's true. Now here comes the kicker. I don't like to talk about past lives. Wait, wait, wait for it.

16:23 It can get misunderstood so easily. But in this case, it's worth saying. You're done. I'm done. What does that mean? Well, you've done everything that has to be done. And the only reason you're here, the only reason, is to do it with more consciousness, more awareness. Exactly. Everything you're doing, you've done before. And now you're doing it better. Better. Everyone you meet, you've known before. Remember when we met in the 1700s? Now you're doing it better. So this is your opportunity to get it right. Especially in the domain of words. You can be so kind, but you cannot ever drop the ball on that. I imagine this year in particular, there's a lot of work on yourself. That's why I'm speaking so directly. Next year, there's no stopping you. If you're looking at new partnerships, both personally and professionally, put it off till next year because that's the time for you to start connecting in a way that will last.

17:28 This is tech new so apparently I was doing top 40 radio in the Middle Ages. I'm done That's the end. That's the end of it. That's the end cut off. No. He says I'm yogi yogi Akal. That's the end That was the end. Yeah, I like it. I think he's spot-on about me. I'm done. Oh, yeah I thought you were when they during it. I thought you'd you did I always thought you did take part in the Madison administration as the town crier That's it the town crier. Yeah, I like that. I want to be a crier What's wrong that guy's crying anyway? I like the yogi. I think I think is good. What do you say about Zuckerberg? Oh it goes on forever. He says Zuckerberg is like you know you've had three incarnations and and he also did Leo and

18:21 Oh he did? What did he say about Leo? Go ahead! He likes to talk. He likes to work on the Twitch broadcast. Yeah, you should do something this week. I'm seeing this week something. This week. I'm seeing this week. Speaking of this week, guess what popped up this week? What popped up this week? The Clinton Foundation IRS Form 990. Oh, finally. Yes, it finally popped up. I'm glad you're dogging it. So what did they say? Well, it's very convoluted as you can imagine. First of all, as far as I can tell, they only raised $15 million from Haiti donations.

19:05 That makes no sense. Of course it makes no sense. It was billions of dollars and we know that they didn't even have the Bush Clinton Haiti Foundation set up so the money was coming into their foundation first at this surge of it. So to say that that surge was only 15 million dollars is bullcrap. It's very difficult to read these reports. It's a cash business. But here's something that jumped out right off the bat. Apparently on the IRS form 990 you have to report your if you have a total of $15,000 for raised during fundraising events in the entire year and then you have to report any event that raises over $5,000 on part two of schedule G and so if you look at that

19:58 on the Clinton Foundation, they had, they list two events. Event number one, Millennium. Event number two, Gala. Which of course is like not helpful. It's like, huh? How does that work? You know, if you Google Clinton Gala, they have a million of them. So gross receipts. Maybe they consider them all one event that just spread out. Yeah, maybe. It can probably pull that off. So here's how it works. And this is I'm happy to report this because this is what they always say or what we always say. Gross receipts in 2010. Remember, this is an organization that pulled in one hundred and thirty five million dollars at these charity galas where all the douchebag one percenters show up and the elites hang out and Bono's always there. Total gross receipts.

20:48 $1,618,788 Total cost? Put them at a negative $311,000 $311,135 So they lost money on the deal? They lost money on their charity deals How does that work? The nerve. Yeah, and then, but that's it's only it's not even it's it's it's literally 1% of the money that comes in is in these charity galas. It's totally it's just a party. It's just a party and they lose money on the deal after paying for food and beverage and entertainment.

21:36 Why are they paying for entertainment at a charity event? Excuse me, in Hollywood if you want, if you have a, and I know this from all the agents, if you want to get a celebrity to show up at your charity event, the going rate for a top grade celebrity is $100,000 and you have to pay for their shopping spree. So they go get to go, you know, to get to buy clothes and whatever. It's huge. These douchebag celebrities don't do it for free. They charge money. You mean Clooney's charging money? Possibly. I mean, I don't know for sure in his case. I think he's got a back-end deal on the oil fields. He's got points on the back end. But anyway, I guess the reason why this is interesting is because also this week they threw Wyclef Jean under the bus.

22:31 Now, you'll recall Wyclef Jean is the dude from the Fugees. Yeah, I guess he didn't play ball or something. I was kind of surprised by that. That's what you think the deal is. Duh, look at the coincidence. So Clinton releases his bullcrap numbers, but then we've got to distract the attention away from Haiti by throwing this poor sap under the bus who they set up in the first place. Like yeah, man, you can become president. It'll be great. And then Wyclef started to believe it and he started like, you know, remember he was on the jet and he was wearing the suit and everything like no, no, no, no, no, dude, you're supposed to just be a figurehead. Not supposed to like believe you can do anything. Go away. So then the New York Post of all journalistic, of all Integer, Integer, you'll get it. Yeah.

23:20 all places yeah of all of all of the journalistic publications the New York Post comes out and says that the guy was scrounging money off of off of his charity And you know gave like seven hundred thousand dollars to his father's firm and all this and you know So they totally threw the guy under the bus and the guy was an idiot I mean he didn't deserve to be president in the first place But it comes out the same week when Clinton come finally comes out with his IRS form 990 which I'm I think we had a hand in that you know with our Clinton 990 org and people sending in the IRS complaint forms a lot of people did that and

24:01 And all of a sudden, oh there it is, six weeks late. I think he probably had zero influence, but it's possible. But to distract, one thing's for sure, to distract from their numbers, they throw this guy under the bus. That's how the Clintons operate, man. Really? Yeah, really. He's lucky he didn't get shot. Yeah, well that's actually true. So I'm looking at the New York Times, there's a picture of Hillary and she's in Myanmar. You mean Lucifer? Lucifer yeah, and she really needs to get back to Paris as fast as she can yeah her hair. She's now resorted to the To the pastel color outfit. She's wearing the blue. She's a wreck the pink pastel now. She needs her hair done She needs a facial As it were she needs to get back to Paris She's not gonna get a good haircut in Miramar I can guarantee you that she was in Burma before that and she actually I tried to find a clip of it and

25:03 It wasn't available. She told the Burmese, she said, no, you have to be better shoppers. And she was referring to China. When you go shopping, don't go shopping with the Chinese. I go, really? She's such a horrible woman. So Myanmar is Burma, by the way. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought it was. It is. What am I thinking of? Oh, yeah, you're right. It's the new name, right? Yeah. Well, yeah, they've changed the name to to avoid the bad publicity.

25:39 Yeah, we should change our name here in the United States something cool. I think it's still a cool name so There's a bunch of weird stuff that happened this week. I have to say mm-hmm, and there's a couple of things going on There's the soft soap and protect IP stuff trying to go through Congress, which is just total corruption I got the commercials from the NCPC announcement the National Council on prevent national crime prevention council play it I haven't heard well, so they had a big big announcement with a whole bunch of DB's

26:19 And Holder was there. And then, you know, and they roll out their campaign and all the campaign has, you know, they so believe in the trademark of McGruff the crime dog. He's still in the campaign. You're kidding. That thing should be in public domain by now. It should be shown by Disney. They actually had this whole thing like, you know, McGruff really works well in the Target demo. What target? Thieves, I guess. I don't know how thieves. So they start off and they do the, they did not contact the creative where our consulting group, cause we definitely would have told them this is a bad idea. The first, so they have a TV spot, which was made by MTV, which I can't play cause it's too visual. But the whole idea is when you buy counterfeit, you are killing people.

27:06 because, yeah, this is it, counterfeiting kills. And everything is so wrong about their campaign. So the first radio spot, they have three of them, actually four, is Eric Holder himself. They think this is a good idea, that Eric Holder is going to grab the attention of people and stop them from buying fake Gucci bags. The next is a radio public service ad from Attorney General Eric Holder called You Can Help. In it, the Attorney General speaks to Americans about how street gangs and organized criminal enterprises are profiting from selling a range of counterfeit products to fund drug trafficking and other criminal activities. So let's analyze this spot, shall we? Let's test its effectiveness. You can help. This is Attorney General Eric Holder. Click.

27:57 I'm gone. I'm already off to the next station. We are working hard to protect our communities by reducing gang violence and organized crime, and there is an important and simple way that you can help. Some street gangs and organized crime groups are selling counterfeit products such as fake watches, DVDs, and purses as an easy way to make money. And they use that money to fund other crimes like trafficking in drugs and guns. When you buy knockoffs on the street, notice he says trafficking in guns. Notice, notice. Or online. Although it may not be obvious, you could be supporting gangs. Putting money into their pockets. Their pockets. Helping them to engage in other illegal activities that put our communities at risk. We're asking all Americans, please don't buy fakes. The next time you think about buying. Listen to the tag. Out of fit products.

28:45 Consider the source. Remember, counterfeits hurt, but you have the power to stop them. To learn more, go to www.ncpc.org forward slash get real. That's ncpc.org slash get real. How about that domain name? How about that call to action URL? Go to ncpc.org slash get real. How stupid is that? I mean, we could even offer one of our domain names to these guys. We probably have at least two or three that are better than that. This is so stupid. A message from the National Crime Prevention Council and the Bureau of Justice Assistance, U.S. Department of Justice. Bullshit!

29:23 Thank you. Thank you. Now, let's listen. Now, we need to do something for the kids. You know, we got to direct our attention. We've got to get the kids involved. How do we do that? Thank you, Attorney General Holder, for adding your credible voice. Your credible voice. It's so credible. Yeah, well, you're smuggling guns across the border to have people killed. So credible. Voice, an important message to this effort. The next radio ad called everyday people makes the same point but with a different messenger. This sounds like the woman that used to be head of NPR, Schiller. No she's not. It's a little troll woman. No she's not. In this spot we hear from a former gang member who turned his life around and is now a pastor. Now notice that in the spot he never identifies himself, he never says I'm now a pastor which is

30:11 It's so stupid. They're so they're so idiotic. They think this is great because they know the story, but the spot doesn't represent it at all He knows it's totally dumb first hand how gangs use profits from selling counterfeit DVDs or other IP products as a Funding as a new new meme IP products by the way Which has a multiple meanings IP products could also be internet protocol products very interesting source for their other activities Being a gang leader landed me in prison. But back in the day, you and me probably did business together. Business? Can we get a more black guy to do business? We do business together. How? If you ever bought any counterfeit merchandise on the street, you know a fake purse, a bootleg DVD, a pair of sunglasses, there's a good chance you would put the money straight into my pocket. Because most times, it's gangs who illegally supply the knockoffs to street vendors. Now that sounds like bullcrap.

31:08 I mean, this is so bogus. Have you ever been to Canal Street in the day? Yes, of course, of course. Stuff was being shipped in straight from China in big cargo and it went right to the street. Yeah, how did it get into the country? In boats, in covert boats in the middle of the night? No, these are actually just backdoor products from these companies. And by the way, we're being set up by the entire advertising industry to want this crap that we can't afford, so it's normal. And by the way, this whole thing... I should mention this because I actually have a collection of counterfeit watches. Me too. You're killing people. I was at the point where I would actually go down to Canal Street but I would look for counterfeit watches that don't exist. Right, exactly. In fact, I have a watch, I still use it. It's a copy of a Movado with the old museum style watch which is very plain. It's got a plain face and just some hands.

32:07 but instead of being gold on black it is silver on silver. They have never made a watch like this. So it's not really counterfeit? No it's not, except it says Movado on it so I guess that's kind of counterfeit. But you're killing people. But the point is it's actually one of the prettiest watches I own and it doesn't exist in the wild as an actual Movado. So that was, so that's actually contributing to the overall aesthetics of the country. You're contributing to gangs. You are killing people, my friend. So anyway, I would notice this when I used to go to New York a lot, that the month beginning around 15th, around Thanksgiving,

32:48 There would be a crackdown on Canal Street and you couldn't get anything for about a month and a half anywhere. You'd have to really pry to get it. This is the new version of that. They're basically clamping down. They do this for the at the last, you know, just before Christmas, make a big deal, get everyone to stop. buying these things. Of course, thank you. The timing is not coincidental, thank you. And then they dropped the whole thing in February. So, but listen to the sound effect that they bring in just to show you that you are actually responsible for killing people, John C. Dvorak, with your fake watches. Get real, my friend. Those counterfeit products come from gangs and their overseas connections and are bought by everyday people just like you. You. So if you keep buying fakes, these gangs are going to keep on making easy money. Money they use for other

33:34 activities. In other words, they're getting a lot of bang for their buck. Do they think this is a good idea? These commercials aren't very good. They're not effective. Well, they have. So then we had to reach the white girls because now we got the hood kids, right? Now we got to reach the... Who are not going to stop buying anything except for the fact that their stuff won't be on the street during this era. Well, listen to how they think the right way is to approach white girls who shop at the mall. My sister Katie and I love to shop.

34:09 Well, I'm a valley girl. Mostly window shop. She means we're thorough. She means we're bargain hunters. Exactly. But my sister Kelly showed me an article that made me change a really bad habit. Just wanting us to do what's right. You see, at one time I just couldn't stay away from those bargain knockoffs. You know, the handbags and scarves sold on the street. Counterfeit merchandise. Ooh, you make it sound so illegal. I'm horny. Is stealing. Ouch. I wouldn't steal. I didn't realize that this sort of stealing can lead to more Americans losing their jobs. So no more buying fakes and knockoffs, right? Right. Just honest bargain hunting. Now you're talking. How does that work? Is Americans losing, you mean Chinese maybe, but Americans losing their jobs? The asshole from the Chamber of Commerce that came on PBS or NPR, I'm sorry, NewsHour,

33:34 activities. In other words, they're getting a lot of bang for their buck. Do they think this is a good idea? These commercials aren't very good. They're not effective. Well, they have. So then we had to reach the white girls because now we got the hood kids, right? Now we got to reach the... Who are not going to stop buying anything except for the fact that their stuff won't be on the street during this era. Well, listen to how they think the right way is to approach white girls who shop at the mall. My sister Katie and I love to shop.

34:09 Well, I'm a valley girl. Mostly window shop. She means we're thorough. She means we're bargain hunters. Exactly. But my sister Kelly showed me an article that made me change a really bad habit. Just wanting us to do what's right. You see, at one time I just couldn't stay away from those bargain knockoffs. You know, the handbags and scarves sold on the street. Counterfeit merchandise. Ooh, you make it sound so illegal. I'm horny. Is stealing. Ouch. I wouldn't steal. I didn't realize that this sort of stealing can lead to more Americans losing their jobs. So no more buying fakes and knockoffs, right? Right. Just honest bargain hunting. Now you're talking. How does that work? Is Americans losing, you mean Chinese maybe, but Americans losing their jobs? The asshole from the Chamber of Commerce that came on PBS or NPR, I'm sorry, NewsHour,

35:02 And I have some clips that I'll bring on the Sunday show because it's just like they need to be dissected too much But but anyway this jerk comes on he got in his whole pitch. It was almost like a talking points Yeah, which costing us jobs Americans are losing jobs in his psych because of these counterfeits I'm thinking wait a minute Rolexes aren't made by Americans. No all these all these things are made in China. Bhutan is not made by Americans Who is he kidding with this crap? It's annoying. It's very annoying. And then they have these bogus numbers. Oh, $3 trillion is lost to the American economy because of these IP. And if you really boil it down, this is all bull crap. This entire thing, and this is part of the protect IP law and SOPA, which are these two onerous laws they want to put into effect where they can just shut down websites at the drop of a

35:50 They don't need though, they already do that. They don't need these laws. I know, but now they're going to, what this will do is give them even more power so they'll be shutting down all our websites. And by the way, let's just be correct, they're not, they say they're shutting down websites, but they're not. All they're doing is breaking DNS. They're not shutting down the actual website. Breaking DNS, which is of course the way the Chinese would do it. You know, we're so proud of our internet. freedoms. Anyway, the whole thing is really about, still I don't care what anybody thinks, this is about the RIAA and the MPAA doing anything they can to shut down the virus. It's got nothing to do with Louis Vuitton or counterfeit Rolexes or any of this other stuff.

36:29 It's just a meme and the reason is bogus and the reason why is They need the media in their pocket because we've got an election coming up and you got to play friendly to the media That's the whole way it works this I mean Fox runs Fox Studios and Fox News and Fox television and American Idol and X Factor and all of this stuff. It's really important. That's why they're doing it now we on the other hand Don't have to suck up to the media. We should though. I mean we should certainly be consulting these guys I'm making better spots. I mean crikey we could do better than that. Oh, yeah, no, that's pretty bad stuff I mean is unless they're just

37:14 The other thing is why would they hire consultants when they could just throw this crap out because it doesn't mean anything. It's just bulk. There's no reason. This is just to throw away. Just to just just to wave your arms and scream that you're doing something and making everybody happy. And everyone is happy and it's all groovy and we all go to the Christmas party and get drunk. We on the other hand only have people who donate drunk. Yeah, well we didn't get too many drunks this week, but let's thank a few of them, our executive producers for this show. Beginning with one executive producer, Michael Henry from Snellville, Georgia, who gave us $700. Wow, that's awesome, thank you. Finishes off his nighthood. In the morning everybody, talking about my favorite demon drink from Gitmo Nation, Haggis, Lefroig, moved me

38:03 Move me to move up my next donation. Wait a minute, this is a clue. Yes, we should talk about Scott's Bar often. Yeah, we're crazy. What are we talking about news? Yeah, let's just talk about no news, just booze. No news. Wait a minute. Oh, perfect. No Agenda Show, no news, just booze with Adam Curry and John C. Nivorek. I also picked up the gold Johnny Walker from a tasting of seven expressions of the brand. Thanks for all the work you do to make the best podcast in the universe. He says world, but he means the universe. I know I made a mistake. Austin, we have three associate executive producers all giving $200. Austin Voss in Calgary, Alberta. And he needs a spoonful of karma. Let me hand out some karma for this. A nice little spoonful for you, my friend. You've got karma. A spoonful of karma helps the medicine go down.

38:55 Bill Rudder in San Jose, California and James Brewis, Sir James Brewis to you, in Jakarta, Indonesia. Hey, hello Obama. Adam John just read the newly released Sherlock Holmes novel, Great Read, highly recommended. The audiobooks narrated by Sir Derek Jacobi. Wait a minute, a new Sherlock Holmes novel? I guess. Interesting that the author, the new author is Anthony Horowitz. You know, it's a public domain character. I could write a Sherlock Holmes novel. May well be a listener as the plot revolves around one of Adam's second half of the show theories on a tale that according to the opening chapter has been too shocking to reveal until now.

39:33 Now I have to read it. Of course he doesn't do give us a Spoiler a spoiler, but he didn't give us a spoiler. We want spoilers Yes, what is up with that without the alert just the spoilers fine just while we're reading it. We just go like oh crap We just spoiled it So I want to thank all four of those gentlemen for aiding us in this particular show. I want to remind people to go to noagendashow.com, dvorak.org slash NA, channel dvorak.com slash NA and noagendanation.com where you can click on the donation button and give us, help us stay on track to continue this show and the five hours a week that we produce specifically for the people out there who are looking for something different. dvorak.org slash NA.

40:19 So speaking of that a little there's a PR mention You know that are you familiar with the Joe Rogan show the podcast Joe Rogan podcast? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so we have a big crossover an audience apparently a lot of people I think So he talks a lot about the same stuff We talked we talked about without the except with instead of assassinating the media. I think he smokes marijuana and and drinks on the show, which is a good... Well, there's an advantage to that. But what he does, I mean, the real crossover is you're basically listening to him and some other, another, like a guest or a couple guys just talking for two and a half hours. It's exactly what we do, and I think people really enjoy that.

41:00 He made it is I think a lot of people were tweeting Adam you should go on the Joe Rogan show and then at the end of his last Show he said oh, we're gonna have Adam Curry on so we haven't actually connected Personally, but I'm looking forward to it because I think that'll be fun then Big show could help us and maybe we could throw him toss him a couple of listeners as well Just keep all the put a list of memes in front of you. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I think it'd be good. And I did want to tell you about your influence. As you know, the yogi has said that you have a lot of power. Oh, yeah. So our landlord Trey, Trey was over the other day because the rocker switch on the electric stove, there's a rocker switch for the downdraft exhaust is broken and the convection oven. No, no, no. We have an electric stove, which I. Yeah, but you still have a convection.

41:52 Does it have a convection function? On the stove? Where else would they show up? No, in an oven. Oh, you're talking about on the burners? Yeah, the burners. Oh, I thought you meant the oven. Sorry. No, no. I said stove, not oven. I'm not paying attention. Thank you. You will when I tell you the story. Okay. So, now Trey, he's a first-time landlord. And so he likes to come over with his toolkit. Long time listener. Well, he is. He comes over with his toolkit to fix stuff. And you know, he's blowing fuses. It's like sparks coming out of the... It's very entertaining. And I'm just sitting there with a flashlight like, that's cool. All right, Trey. And then he's trying to fix this rocker switch. And you know what he says? Man, this rocker switch is bogative. He said that on purpose.

42:40 He said it doesn't matter. Yeah, well bogat is damn good word. It is a damn good good catch on. Yeah. Well, we're working on it Anyway, thank you very much to our executive producer and associate executive producers for checking in today and helping us out It is so incredibly important for keeping this podcast the best one in the universe on the air And of course, we have a formula can go out and propagate our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth Shut up slave

43:26 So there was a very funny thing that happened on NBC. Did you get to witness it, Amateur Hour on NBC Part 1? No, I did not. Let's see what this is about. Well, perhaps not something special anymore. Again, we have an announcement going on here in the studio. Tom Costello, we should advise our viewers there's no danger to us. We'd love to make this stop. Yeah, I saw CNN, I think, making fun of it. Yeah, this part too because they you think they go to commercial you're in a big studio You're you are a major network you go to commercial in a situation like this right? Yeah, don't you and then they fix it? Yeah sure yeah play part two Central on NBC

44:15 As we continue to deal with a fire alarm that is stuck, we press on nonetheless with tonight's broadcast and that means we're back with the latest installment in our series of reports, The War Next Door. It's unbelievable. I mean what kind of an operation are they running there Mickey Mouse? There's an excuse of that you know they're doing the newscast and then there's an earthquake you see that once in a while on the Set shake and you know you just nothing you do about that, but this is dumb Yeah, it was pretty funny So I didn't I saw a new Dvorak Horowitz unplugged came out and it is definitely the bed the best podcast in Florida and

44:58 So I don't know if you talked about this, but Bloomberg News came out with an incredible report as they documented that the Federal Reserve had essentially lent more than $7.7 trillion to banks that they did not disclose. I don't think it was that much. I think it was $1.7. No, it was 7.8 trillion dollars. Yes, it's $7 trillion. Well, I saw the guy discussing it on one of the shows with the Bloomberg reporter and it was very entertaining. Well, so the implication here...

45:37 Is that the Federal Reserve essentially just you know mailed out the world yeah made up some numbers and said yeah here you go just give you back the banks made money on that of course but everyone else like you know stupid slaves that just like screw you we're gonna take away your house and everything and Dennis Kucinich our other favorite wacky in in the house Who of course is the Democratic Ron Paul. He said something very entertaining on C-SPAN which I was watching. Well Congress is in a deadlock over tax and spending cuts. We learned the Fed secretly gave Wall Street banks over 7.7 trillion dollars. Where did the Fed get that 7.7 trillion? They created most of it from nothing.

46:23 Well, our government's a massive debt. The Fed picked winners and losers and secretly helped big banks tally record profits. Remember the great debate we had here? Over 700 billion in TARP funds? There was no debate over the 7.7 trillion the Fed gave the banks. Did Congress have a clue? There's another game going on way over our heads and our constituents are struggling. Well, the banks with the help of the Fed have captured control of our government. Now the rating services are threatening us. If we don't come up with a deal, they'll downgrade U.S. debt. Could the threat to our national sovereignty be any clearer? It's time for Congress to listen to the wisdom of the founders, reclaim its constitutional primacy over monetary policy. There is a way. It's called the NEED Act. The Fed takes our freedom and gives it to the banks.

47:08 Let's take our freedom back from the Fed. And of course his buddy there in Congress, Ron Paul, he is leading the Finance Committee so he could actually call for an investigation. Could you please tell someone we're doing the best podcast in the universe? Some sales call from some toll-free number. I hate, you know, I paid an extra three bucks to Time Warner Cable To have our number not listed in the database. You have to pay for that privilege. Yeah. For the first week, I've got nothing but, hello, this is ADT Home Security calling over and over again. They sold my name, bastards. Well, it's not in the directory, though. Yeah, yeah. They didn't say they wouldn't sell my name. That's true. Anyway. It's another five bucks. So what I like, what Kucinich is saying here is he's very astute. He says there's another game going on over our heads. Yeah, duh. Duh.

48:10 And I was looking at you, do you ever read Zero Hedge? No, I never, I've been meaning to. It's actually quite good. They picked up on a story from Forbes. Now, what happened is the central banks came out a day before yesterday and said, we got a great idea. Of course, run. Timmy Geithner set all this up. The idea was they're going to lower the the interest rate that banks have to pay if they borrow money in a swap and of course this is all in you know intended to confuse you because the minute people hear swap they're like, huh, whatever Let's say let's go shop swap shop. What'd you say? Oh

48:51 In other words, the central banks, including the Federal Reserve, are Federal Reserve, are money, the guys who are just handing out money left and right, are saying, you know what, come give us a piece of paper that says you have this many euro. And we'll give you a piece of paper that says that equals this many dollars and then you pay half a percent interest for doing that. And usually these are short term like overnight and stuff. But what Zero Hedge concluded and that they picked it up from Forbes is that this was done because it appeared that a big European bank got close to failure.

49:29 And they had to do something really quickly. And then, of course, we got the big Santa rally, as it's known, yesterday and everything popped up. And now everything's all great and it's all groovy and we have nothing to worry about. But I think this is the this is the final. This is it, man. We're close. We're very, very close. Well, actually, if you listen to our the Dvorak Horowitz podcast, which you'll run probably after this show or next. Yeah. Yeah. Get most label put it on the stream. Of course, we It's really grim. In fact, if you listen to Ron Paul on the Tuesday debates, I've got a couple of clips that just kind of summarizes it. You have two clips. One is Paul followed by Romney, which is where Paul goes and this is the second half of Paul's little

50:16 complaining and then Romney of course is an idiot and he just goes and throws it back into the political arena and blames everything on Obama for some reason but play Paul followed by Romney. But this whole idea of talking about the endless wars and the endless foreign aid it seems like nobody cares about the budget. I mean, we're in big trouble, and nobody wants to cut anything. So if you're going to keep sending foreign aid overseas and these endless wars that you don't have to declare and go into Libya without even consulting with the Congress, the biggest threat, the biggest threat to our national security is our financial condition. And this is just aggravating it.

51:01 What an idiot. The guy's an idiot. So he goes on and on and on and then luckily they let, for some reason CNN I guess they took the clue and they let Ron Paul actually speak. So play the second clip which is Paul snaps after, this is the end of Romney's rant about how the military's not getting enough money. That's the best way to save money, not the military.

51:44 Hold on one second, because Ron Paul wants to respond to that point. Well, they're not cutting anything out of anything. All this talk is just talk. Believe me. They're cutting, they're nibbling, they're nibbling away at baseline budgeting. It's automatic increases. There's nothing cut against the military. and the people on the hill near hilly hysterical because they're not going the budget isn't going up as rapidly as they wanted to it's a road to disaster we better wake up yeah yeah the nibbling nobody's paying any attention to this now of course not it and the fact that the man is a little excited and say it is i'm sorry that doesn't count yet does boy night here so uh...

52:36 Ron Paul's the only guy making this point and the one thing that people have to look at when they keep moaning and groaning about the military is go look at the military spending in 1990, 2000, 2000 and then look at it year by year. When has it ever gone down? Never? Well it had yeah after World War II it went down but for some reason it just started going up and now once I think Clinton kind of put a stopped it from continuing to grow at a higher rate But now it's just it's massive and they and they've even said that they can't even know audit the bill They can't audit the Pentagon. Yeah. No, there's another thing. I mean they want to audit the Fed. They can't even audit the military They're just throwing money away. We've been tracking that and we why anybody would be defending this is beyond me Well the joint there's a brand new joint chief of the Joint Chief of Staffs You know the military dudes

53:31 He's been there for like two months, I think, and he came out and you know, everyone hates the Obama administration now, including the Democrats. Everyone wants this guy and all his cronies and that slumlord Chicago slumlord Valerie Jarrett. They want them all out. And he's even started for the joint chief to say, you know, well, this is not OK. We can't have this spending cut. This is not good, you know, for him to say that's a big deal. You know, you're supposed to be like kind of together, particularly when you're, you know, Obama's his boss. He's the commander in chief. And this guy, you know, he's come out saying, hmm, this is not really so good.

54:07 And then of course the joke of it all is that it's just not going up as much as it already is supposed to go up automatically. And that's what Ron Paul is saying. Yeah, and when people talk about cuts, they're not talking about actual cuts, they're talking about cuts in growth. Yeah. So you got like a high, say you're spending a trillion dollars and now you want to spend 1.1 trillion and it comes, oh we're going to cut 500 billion dollars. from the growth, not from the baseline stuff. I mean, it's still a trillion plus. And it's over 10 years. It's like whoop-dee-doo. Right? And it's over 10 years. It's up to two trillion by then and you've cut what, half a trillion? It's ridiculous. Whoop-dee-doo. So I think we're... And why doesn't the media call people out on this? When they talk about cuts, they're not talking about real cuts. They're talking about cuts in the growth. They don't care.

54:54 Apparently, I guess nobody does. So, um, Haiku Herman was in Washington along with Barroso. Oh, and by the way, stop. Why do we need continued growth on these budgets? Gross is what it's called. Gross. Why do we need continued gross? I can't even do it. So we can be them bad MFs that we are, man. So we can continue to go kill people. We've got to get the budget is big enough. No, apparently not. Anyway, I'm sorry go on now. You know Hermann's more entertaining than I always very ended You know haiku Herman has his own website, and they put his videos up, which it's like it saves me so much work I'm so appreciative of it, but you know when you look at his web page. He's like all slick looking you know and they have all these cool videos and So they get there's two and these are and they're also good because they're short. They're like 20 seconds and

55:47 And so he's in Washington now, of course December 9th is the big day when they're going to announce whatever's gonna happen and how they're gonna save the universe over there in in Euro land Which of course will not help and you know this this latest central bank collusion the world bankers essentially colluding against us Because the way I see it is the Federal Reserve created money that we eventually have to pay for. They lent it out to other countries so that they can pay back American bankers. I mean, am I stupid or what? They just like just is taking our money and giving it to bankers. Is that not correct? It's what it looks like. OK, so here's Haiku Herman telling us about the actual situation. And notice he always uses we.

56:30 We also consider the situation as grave and even as dangerous. And we explained what we already have done and what we intend to do. I told them in broad lines what I intend to propose at the European Council meeting of the 8th and the 9th of December. Nice. Nines. The 8th and the 9th of December. Did he say in bread lines? Yes, in bread lines. He went to bread lines? Wait a minute. Let me listen to the bread lines. What we already have done and what we intend to do. I told them in broad lines. No, here it is. Oh, there it is.

57:17 back in the war blind shut up and to someone say it again I told them in broad lines now broad lines broad lines bread lines the Europeans will is grave and dangerous they will all be in bread lines And then of course he has to address the slaves of Europe. And so here he is. And it's nothing more fun than making there's nothing more entertaining than making fun of someone's pronunciation. And here he is. Of course. It's great. They will refuse to do that nowadays on mainstream media. Of course not. Here he is saying, you know, basically we have to have a fiscal union, which means you'll have to pay your taxes to the federal state of Euro land. And there's some fun to be had in his pronunciation. We need a significant step forward towards real economic union commensurate with our monetary union. We need to offer our citizens and the investors direction for the future that brings back confidence.

58:22 We have to show that the euro is an irreversible project. Yes. An irreversible project. Irreversible project. It's an irreversible project. Jean, an irreversible project. An irreversible project. Now, I'll give you a funnier one. Who was visiting President Obama this week besides Heiko Hermann and Barroso? It was the Prime Minister of Gitmo Nation Lowlands, Mr. Rutte. Why? Just to hang out, it's his turn. It was on the schedule, you know, because he gets a boner from it and I can prove it. So, first of all... You can prove it? Yeah, I can prove it. Mickey knows this guy, Ms. Mickey, and she says he's a total empty suit.

59:17 And she doesn't sound that empty. No, he's a total empty suit Right hold on a second very good now she won't say it but you know he's so he's He's gay, which is it's fine with that But you know he likes going to the fashion shows and hooting and hollering about the dresses and stuff. This is just like he's an empty suit and douchebag and but of course uh... when you visit our president what is our president always say would you like to come up to the lincoln bedroom? first he says hello everybody whenever the president goes and does hello everybody you know it's not it's fake hello everybody it is wonderful to welcome prime minister ruta and his delegation to the white house part of the reason we want to make this meeting happen is because we have

1:00:15 No stronger ally than the Netherlands No stronger ally is our bestest buddy. We're the best we're BFS BFS forever And then it's British time to talk and he first he makes a huge fupa as you know That's the way you pronounce it these days fupa and he does instead of saying President Obama or the president He says Barack Obama Which and the pre you can see President Obama just looking at him going like you dick have a little respect And then he rolls it out. Mr. Prime Minister. Yeah. Well, thank you so much. I'm glad to be here and to meet once again with you, Barack Obama. How wrong is that? To meet with you again, Barack Obama? Is that wrong or is that wrong? I don't know. It sounds funny though. Here and to meet once again with you, Barack Obama. And I hope very much to welcome you to the Netherlands. That would be a great honor and a great opportunity.

1:01:12 The relationship between our countries is very strong. It goes back a long time. And I came to the United States basically to discuss three issues. What could those three issues be, John? Well, I'm pins and needles trying to waiting to find out. Jobs, Jobs and Jobs. Jobs, Jobs and Jobs. Check the calendar dude. Jobs, Jobs and Jobs. Steve Jobs, Peter Jobs and Enrique Jobs. Jobs, just Jobs. Idiot. I've got to ridicule that guy. But Michelle Obama, and then I'm done. She has a video on whitehouse.gov

1:01:58 And now so she's presenting the this is her Jackie O moment where she presents the Christmas decorations for the White House and there's a whole bunch of kids there. Interestingly enough, Sasha and Shaniqua aren't there. What's her name again? Malika Malika Malika or something like that. Sasha and Malika aren't there, which makes no sense because, you know, this is the moment it should be the family. But then There's like some kid I guess that you can't see it because they don't cut away I think the kid is trying to climb up on the stage and you tell me if this sounds like a friendly woman How's everyone doing? Yeah, you excited? You ready for Christmas? Yeah

1:02:46 Yeah. Oh, where are Malia and Sasha? Yeah, where are Malia and Sasha? Yeah, where are they? Yeah, where are they? What else they got to do? Well, here it comes. Well, it's great to have you all here and your families as well. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the White House as we kick off the holiday season. This is oh, yes, here's a little one. You come on up. Come on up. I'm sorry, but that's it. Come on up. It's like the wench man. Like come on up. Here's a little one. Come on up. Listen to this. It's frightening me. Listen, listen, listen. Yes, we're going to eat you, you little one. Come on up. Come on up. Come on up. That's scary.

1:03:40 Come on man, that's frightening. Oh, that's not a nice mother. You're over the top on this. It's just the style. Come on, style? That's no style. Come on up. Come here you little one. She's like the woman in the gingerbread house. Am I pretty? Come on up. I'm sorry. It just struck me as odd. Well, yeah, I can see that did. So, uh, and a couple of clips that are kind of interesting. You know, there's a big to-do about this is the week that Lipitor goes off patent. Yeah, that's right. Have we found out? You know what they did with Lipitor last year, Pfizer?

1:04:22 Well, didn't they first they made an Alzheimer drug? No, no, I'm 10 know what they did money-wise. Oh Let me guess. I'm going to say eight billion dollars ten Oh, which and the entire entertainment know the entire music industry is for yeah, that's amazing. I know for Billion one pill right? Oh So there was a long exposition on this, it was a real big presentation on the NPR, I'm sorry not NPR but News Hour. And it was, you know, unfortunately when I watched the News Hour when they actually need to ask a lot of questions and they got somebody who's a stooge, they never really grill him, but when you get some guy who's like a critic,

1:05:06 and who wants to talk, they let them go too. So this guy had some good stuff to say but it finally evolved into one of the female hosts asking this... Sting, Schill? No, he's the opposite of Schill. He's the book writer about what is Pfizer trying to do, pulling a fast one to keep this thing alive as long as they can even though now it's off patent. And there's two things that came out of this. And the first one is if you listen to the kinds of stunts they're pulling, this is only works because of the health care industry being basically corrupt because it's now dominated by insurance companies. But play Pfizer pulling a fast one. Now, Pfizer, though, is fighting back against generic competitors. Yes, they are. It's really kind of like trying to hold back the tide, because in six months,

1:05:55 because of a variety of legal reasons there will be many generic manufacturers and at that point Pfizer can't keep fighting them all back. I think what it's trying to do is just preserve whatever franchise it can in the waning months of its availability on the market and frankly I'd rather that all of that enormous creativity that they're showing in ways of dealing with this legally and through deals and economically we're being spent on developing new products rather than trying to figure out other ways to get people not to use the generic. But explain what they're trying to do. It's quite a novel approach. It involves arranging deals with prescription benefit management companies to not make the generic available. It involves making coupons available to patients to bring down the copay to get them to stay on Lipitor as opposed to the generic. It involves a variety of side deals with insurers, with drugists, with anybody who's a player to try to desperately hang on to a couple more months of Lipitor use.

1:06:55 Now is there not a debate about whether generics are okay? So I got this another clip I did for some reason I didn't clip it right dad this guy's a professor I believe he said he's John Hopkins or Yale medical or someplace like that He's a and he's been following this for a while, right? And the thing that kind of got me was the question that she began to ask there Which I do have on another clip called generic drug rant where? she actually And she doesn't really she's not too reticent after he kind of scolds her for even asking the question But this but I wanted to run this clip because I think this is actually a clip that people need to listen to Because it really summarizes the problem with generic drugs and the problem is that they're just exactly the same

1:07:44 And there's no evidence to the contrary and this guy makes it very clear. But there's still, there's a lot of propaganda and he points this out that generic drugs aren't as good or we make it a little better because we had the original and blah blah blah, but play a generic drug rant. Is there not a debate about whether generics are quote as good or at least as reliably good as the brand name manufacturer? Or do you consider that a settled point? It's not subtle and it should not be a debate and it should not have been a debate for decades. Generics are every bit as good as the brand name drugs. There's a lot of disinformation that gets spewed out there. It is not scientifically accurate information. All the data we have is that generics are every bit as good as the brand name products. They're held to the same high standards by FDA. They contain the exact same molecules in the exact same strength.

1:08:33 And I really wish that that old canard about generics don't work as well could be put to bed because it hasn't been true and it isn't true. Yeah, it's just to rip us off. Yeah, you know, just to rip us off. Everything seems to be designed to rip us off, to rip us off. You know, I, when my first company, I had a, a pharmaceutical, um, Janssen, that decided Janssen. I don't know. Maybe I did. Yeah. Maybe I'm mispronouncing. I'll check the book of knowledge. Thought it was a Janssen. And you know, we would build a website or some crap for them, whatever, $18 million website back in the day. And we went to their headquarters, which I think is in Colorado.

1:09:14 And I'm like, you know, this will be cool, it'll be high tech. It's like an oil factory. Yeah, Janssen Pharmaceuticals. Yeah, it's like an oil factory. They've got nothing but big vats of goop. They were established in Belgium in 1953. Yeah. And it's just like, wow. It's like a refinery. Because a lot of this is, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't a lot of this made with like petrochemicals? Yeah, some of it sure. Yeah, it's just making oil. They just it's like a refinery. It's really crazy And they put in a pill and they get more money than you would forever for a gallon of gas and they're trying to sell this They're they're screening kids now for cholesterol at school. They're doing everything it goes way beyond what's being? Cholesterol and kids thing is outrageous. It's it's just nuts. It's just nuts. And yeah, and this cholesterol. Do you take Lipitor? No, and do you take Viagra?

1:10:08 No, I don't need Viagra. Have you ever tried Viagra? What do you take me for? I'm just asking, have you ever tried Viagra? No, I've never even tried it. I don't like the idea of it because it changes, because I don't like, I don't like my heart rate going up to a thousand. Yeah, going up to a thousand. And also the temporary blindness and the other possibilities. Well that could actually be a benefit. You get a double whammy there. It's like, hi honey, hold on. Oh, I'm blind, but look at my boner. Yeah, no, I don't. Why do you? You a big Viagra user? Never tried it. Never tried. Of course not. But just all this stuff is just, it's disconcerting. It's the advertising, man. People believe that, you know, Mickey is, Ms. Mickey has made friends here with someone.

1:10:59 mom. Just now? Yeah, just this very second. And she was talking to her on the phone and this is Austin right? And this mom is from out of state and she's been here for about nine or ten months and she has two kids I think. One is nine, one is fourteen. And so they both can't go into school unless they have their mandatory vaccines which as we know is the next big bonanza for the drug companies not only because it's giving stuff to people who aren't sick but they also can't be sued if it kills them. But the other one was this mom actually got a call from the school yeah you know your son's not really adjusting and... The Texas schools by the way are notorious for this. Time for Ritalin. Throw that kid on to Ritalin. How horrible is that?

1:11:55 And that's all very common. The Texas school system is commonly likes to dope up their kids. It's so wrong. I don't know why it hasn't been stopped. Well, it's Perry because of Governor Perry, the douchebag. No, it goes way before him. It was during, it was before the Bush, when Bush was governor. Well, there you go. Do I need to say anything? It was Bush. Yeah. Duh. All a-holes. So this mom is like freaking out. I don't know if they can, uh, If they can mandate that, wouldn't surprise me. Your kid's gotta be unriddling. I think you can homeschool here though. Yeah, I think so too. I would just homeschool. Yeah. Until the kids are old enough to want to actually get out of the house. All of us moms probably like, yeah, anything to get the kids out of the house. Just give them some dope. Get them out of my house. I don't want to hear this kid yammering at me, running around like a crazy kid. Dope him up. Yep. It's great.

1:12:56 And open them up. So the Penn State pedo bear thing continues. Yeah, now they got another school involved Syracuse. I think your theory about Buddy, first Buddy is probably accurate. And, um, yeah, because this is starting to crop up now here and there. I think it'll be two or three more incidents. This is becoming the new version of the first. They went through the Catholic scandals and now we're going through the coaching scandals. And I think this is just the tip of the iceberg. And that Penn State thing there, they filed one lawsuit already and you can just assume this school's going to damn near be bankrupted by these lawsuits.

1:13:33 and uh... it's just a gonna be a real interesting mess what is it is serves him right here penn state deserves a stay had that one college uh... uh... the one of the heads of the one of the original uh... heads of the of the school this female who had to quit Yeah, you know about this right did we talked about this? I don't think we talked okay there before about about five or six years ago There was a there was a couple of the football players had gone in and the dorms and beat up some kids And it was just a big deal as the cops were called out and and so she went to the coach and called him to the carpet He says you don't you're not calling me to the carpet. I'm calling you to the carpet I'll do I'll take care of it get out and nobody would back her to Discipline these kids

1:14:14 and the coaches run into school and she said well screw you I quit. Right. So she's out during this this major scandal and the sucker that came in it was a guy who got fired who should have interesting trouble getting work in the future. I mean this is what happens when you have a corruption of you know this sort of corruption at a college. I mean you can't have they should close the football program down. No instead they had a prayer circle. Yeah, that's gonna do it. Well, they're gonna be praying for a better lawyer to defend them because this is not gonna get any easier. Then we have a professor at the University of Utah who was looking at porn on a Delta flight.

1:14:57 Did you see, did you catch that one? Oh I missed it. Yeah he was sitting in first class section of Delta Flight. Yeah I'm in first class man I can look at porn can't I? A man behind him saw what appeared to be child pornography. Oh gee. He notified the flight attendant and of course. It could have been nothing. Well who knows but The anti-child pornography task force broke down the door of his Cottonwood Heights home and they searched it to see if they could find more kiddie porn. It just shows to me these universities have just become places where your kids, their minds are messed up, their bodies are messed up. I mean you might as well not send your kid to a university. All they're doing is getting indoctrinated with crazy stuff.

1:15:46 I'm generalizing but wow this this yeah but this stuff is rampant John this is it's rampant and it's been it's the past 20 years that this has started to really happen you know the there was a guy you know I could be that big of a deal if the tuitions were lower true I've You know, I've always been harping on the Secretary General of Justice in the Netherlands, Joost Demink. This is the guy that I was harping on and he not only fired, did I get fired from the radio station but they took down the whole station. Burned it to the ground. Yeah, completely. So there was a day... So why did you get fired again? I forgot. Because I said, hey, this guy, he's a pedophile.

1:16:32 And there's enough evidence that there should at least be an investigation. There's never an investigation. And there were two big publications that... Well, he should have sued you for libel. Well, this is the thing. He never sues anyone for libel because it's probably true. So there was a big scandal, we didn't even talk about it on the show, a couple months ago in Gitmo Nation Lowlands where this director of a daycare center was abusing kids. And you know, big scandal and then the guy goes to court and then he's let go. Well, he's suffered enough. Because of course the Secretary General, the second Secretary General... He suffered enough! He had to be in court. Yeah, they let him go. Let him go! And the parents are like, what? What?

1:17:16 Just let him go because the Secretary General is in on the game. This is how it works when there's that kind of takeover. Everyone's, you know, being blackmailed and you all got to be part of the club and shut up and it's rampant. And meanwhile, Penn State, uh, advertising their big lecture on climate ethics. My God, Penn State is going to do ethics on anything? Douchebags. No, that's it's it's uh, it's sad. It's very, very sad. But there you have it. So I got one more clip from the debates. Oh. Where we actually caught Romney pulling a Perry and stammering and stuttering and then making some stupid comment. I don't know, was there ever a genocide convention? The nuclear program. Whether Iran is going to become nuclear. We have a president who pursued an agenda of saying we're going to be friendly to our foes and we're going to be disrespectful to our friends.

1:18:13 The right course in America is to stand up to Iran with crippling sanctions, indict Ahmadinejad for violating the Genocide Convention, put in place the kind of crippling sanctions that stop their economy. I know it's going to make gasoline more expensive. There's no price which is worth an Iranian nuclear weapon. I'd love this guy to be president. We could keep... It's a guaranteed four years of material. We totally need this. He's like, he's like falling apart. What is this genocide convention? I gotta look it up in the book of knowledge. Maybe there was one, I didn't know about it. Genocide Convention.

1:17:16 Just let him go because the Secretary General is in on the game. This is how it works when there's that kind of takeover. Everyone's, you know, being blackmailed and you all got to be part of the club and shut up and it's rampant. And meanwhile, Penn State, uh, advertising their big lecture on climate ethics. My God, Penn State is going to do ethics on anything? Douchebags. No, that's it's it's uh, it's sad. It's very, very sad. But there you have it. So I got one more clip from the debates. Oh. Where we actually caught Romney pulling a Perry and stammering and stuttering and then making some stupid comment. I don't know, was there ever a genocide convention? The nuclear program. Whether Iran is going to become nuclear. We have a president who pursued an agenda of saying we're going to be friendly to our foes and we're going to be disrespectful to our friends.

1:18:13 The right course in America is to stand up to Iran with crippling sanctions, indict Ahmadinejad for violating the Genocide Convention, put in place the kind of crippling sanctions that stop their economy. I know it's going to make gasoline more expensive. There's no price which is worth an Iranian nuclear weapon. I'd love this guy to be president. We could keep... It's a guaranteed four years of material. We totally need this. He's like, he's like falling apart. What is this genocide convention? I gotta look it up in the book of knowledge. Maybe there was one, I didn't know about it. Genocide Convention.

1:18:54 You should check it out. Meanwhile, the prevent genocide dot org convention on the prevention of the punishment of the crime of genocide. But is there a genocide? Yeah, it was in the United Nations General Assembly, 9th of December, 1948. I don't think he means that. I think he means the Geneva Convention, which also meant Geneva Convention. But he's well, this thing again. Well, the Geneva Convention gets getting played up. Now it's like, Hey, the the slaves over there in Iran. They stormed the British Embassy And and you know that's against the Geneva Convention. You've got to protect the embassy Don't you get it? Don't you understand that people are pissed off? They're angry. I got a different approach on this one I think and there's a couple of interesting clips that will lead into my conclusion. Okay, I'm You play this clip mi6 once war with Iran

1:19:49 OK. And finally, this latest news out of Iran, the British government withdrawing a portion of the diplomatic staff after Iranian protesters not clear exactly who they were, stormed the British embassy in Tehran, overrunning the diplomatic buildings, quoting, chanting, death to Britain. Richard Seymour. Yeah, well I think that we have to understand this in the context of the geopolitics. There are elements within the British government that really want a war with Iran. That's come out recently with the connections between Liam Fox, who was the Defense Minister and a very hard right, neo-conservative, Atlanticist, pro-Israel, and a fellow called Adam Werrity, who was a friend of his and who coordinated among all these Atlanticist and pro-Zionist organizations.

1:20:37 and it seems that they were lobbying quite hard for an attack on Iran and I think it's quite clear that there are elements within the government who would like to escalate some sort of situation. But that's never gonna happen. It's not the point, the point is that when he says elements within the government, he's talking about MI6. We've talked about this before because I've always been convinced that MI6 through the BBC has been trying to stir up things in Syria and much of this Iranian stuff is also the British and I think the Iranians said hey look let's draw attention to the fact that it's the British that are trying to cause trouble here and they stormed the embassy and made a big stink about it. So we're both saying the same thing. It's like they're fed up with it.

1:21:22 Yeah, but I don't think it's just a bunch of fed up citizens. No, no, no, I understand. I understand what you're saying. But here's the question, because the UK put sanctions in place and that apparently, I mean, I can't think of any country where like sanctions, who gives a crap, whatever. But what were those sanctions? It had to be with oil, I guess. It had to be something that they won't take their oil or what was it? Do you know what the sanctions? Well, they've never really been perfectly outlined in the fact that the, oops. I won't hit you for that because you caught yourself the the Russians and the Chinese aren't buying into it So they're just still trading so it doesn't hurt him at all and they still can trade with African nations These sanctions are bogus Bogota and by the way this guy who is talking to Seymour character who was on that last clip he can't use the word Atlanticists

1:22:09 twice. And Atlanticism, which is a thing that's kind of creeping up on people, is the idea that the specifically the United States and Canada and even Mexico to some lesser extent would, and you've heard about this, we've heard other clips from C-SPAN and elsewhere talking about them hooking up with Britain as their kind of own sub-EU where you have Great Britain and Canada and the United States forming an alliance outside of the EU. A special relationship. And so there's some connection between the Atlanticists, who apparently go back to Reagan, Churchill, Blair, and the various intelligence agencies are trying to stir up various

1:22:58 I don't know, make trouble in these areas for whatever reason. The whole thing is it's kind of a mess. I mean, I'd like to see some reports deconstructing all this, but there's no doubt in my mind that this is fake. I mean, this whole anti-Iran thing, it's just a scam. There was, I'm trying to look for it now. I'm pretty sure I clipped it. You know how I'm always harping about how the British, they're just not, you know, they're not what they used to be? We know now that the British women are the fattest in the EU according to the EU's own study and used to be the thin, the thin dude with the pitchfork and really angry and running all over the place and you know in rioting and we saw a huge demonstration yesterday in Gitmo Nation East. Two million they say, two million public workers who were protesting against their austerity measures

1:23:58 One being that the pension age, which of course is now kind of the new normal, is being raised to 67 and they have to in some cases double their pension contributions of their paycheck. And so this sparked off two things. One, we have... and by the way, the airports have never been as great, everyone says. Because this included school teachers, border patrol, security agents, police officers, and everyone at the airports. And they have video clips like, hey, it's great. We breezed right through. There wasn't this normal hassle all the time from these a-holes. It was fantastic. And it should happen more often. But Jeremy Clarkson, who is the main host of Top Gear, the very popular automotive program on the BBC. Yeah, the big guy. Do you know what he said?

1:24:50 Well, I'm gonna find out. About these strikers? I'd have them all shot. I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families. I mean, how dare they go on strike when they've got these gilt-edged pensions that are going to be guaranteed while the rest of us have to work for a living. And I have to say, I'm kind of on Jeremy's side on this. And of course you don't want people being shot, but it is true That they have it great over there if you're working for the government. They really do, they have it great. They have it pretty well. Yeah, great. But then, and this is the clip I really, it's long, but I think it's worth, this is the best rant ever from a pissed off Englishman.

1:25:38 I think it's long John, but I really want to play it. I can I can you can handle it So this is an Englishman who long is it? It's a couple minutes. That's no problem Well, if you don't if you don't like it, which I doubt just a long one too we can so he's a cab He's a cab driver He's also a union guy and he is going on strike But he really brings the real true thinking of a true pissed off Englishman into it and it is just the most beautiful Video I have ever seen on YouTube as well as being and I'm gonna try and do this actually without swearing or shouting as well as being an artist taxi driver I'm also a university lecturer an associate lecturer at Chelsea, and I'm on the branch secretary of the UC Union at Campbell College of Art

1:26:26 We will be having a picket line on November the 30th, but everyone knows it is for pensions But you can't just strike these days you have to fucking give them like months notice And it's like oh by the way not safe for work this one It is one you have to have a cause and it has to be pertinent to you You can't just come out in sympathy, but everyone knows it's not just about fucking pensions this government right is is trying to do away with the human rights law. This government is trying to do away with the minimum wage. This fucking government, right, is trying to privatise the NHS, because they know all their mates will get involved in it and it's a fucking goldmine. Because when someone's little kid's sick, they will have to go and get them fucking... because they know if you can afford a mobile fucking phone, you can afford to get your little kid's leg fixed.

1:27:16 It's a fucking disgrace. This government's appalling. It's sitting alongside a Liberal Democrat that fucking lied. Most of the fucking poor students that voted for Liberal Dem are now suffering because they've trebled it. They signed a pledge to fucking do away with it. And them greedy fucking gits have trebled it, because it's just like, where's all the fucking money going? Into the fucking pockets of the fucking corporations that this government, this government, This government, right, should be protecting the people from the corporation, but it's protecting the corporation from the people. There's no right to fucking protest on the streets of London. You get kettled and fucking dragged in and beaten and arrested with Agent fucking Provocateur Police. They're fucking... They're supporting the fucking energy companies whose bills are going through the roof.

1:28:07 and the fucking old people are gonna die, they're doing away with people's fucking pensions, it's a fucking disgrace. They're rummaging around the world, raping and pillaging and killing other people in tiny little countries, stealing their fucking minerals. And we've had enough. We're fucking striking about all of this and everything that's happening around the world in fucking other countries and all the other protests like in Egypt and in America. It's all fucking connected, because we're sick to death of you and your like, David fucking Camerface, and Francis more than Dalia and Alexander. Stick your fucking dicks back in your trousers, stop waving them around, telling us what we're fucking doing, because we're striking, because we're sick to death. We're sick to fucking death.

1:28:53 of being living in wage fucking slavery while CEOs and fucking bankers are spunking our money up the wall. Yes, that's our money that we're paying in taxes. Taxes that should be going towards the health and education of our children. You're fucking giving it to banking speculators who are gambling with people's lives. And don't think it's not fucking connected, because it is. Because I'm also striking for the fucking people that are starving in East... on the Horn of Africa, who've got fucking nothing. Because they're starving and it's to do with the fucking bankers. And we all know it, and we know there's a fucking cabal that's running rampant paging around the world, that wants to start a war in fucking Iran, so they can fucking steal all their oil. All their fucking oil.

1:29:42 We got fucking arms dealers. We've got our government fucking selling arms to dirty, disgusting fucking military around the world like the Bahrainis and the fucking Egyptians so they can use on their own people. They don't even fuck about in America. They just pepper spray their own fucking people for pacifically protesting, just sitting down. And everyone's fucking sick to death of David Cameron, the fucking Labour Party who killed fucking people in Iraq. You're out. We're fucking had enough and I'm striking on November the 30th for the fucking whole lot and we're sick to death. We want David fucking camera face. There's this guy camel wasn't it camel face. Yeah, I think he said camera face I don't think he's a camel face Camel face he goes on for another minute. Is this guy a lecturer at some University of Chelsea? People probably must just line up. I bet it's loaded. I bet the auditorium is packed. Can you go three words without dropping an F-bomb?

1:30:40 I love how he starts it off and says I hope I won't swear with what I'm about to say That's the joke of them however of course you will not hear this on the BBC You have you wouldn't hear on anything, but the show you have to resort to this program to this little little mp3 file to hear... Power of the mp3 file. But I liked it because the guy is not just about Britain and the pensions, it's about you know the killing of brown people in desert. He's like the Americans they don't they don't muck about, they just pepper spray. It's like yeah that's right. Come into your town soon my friend. Well

1:31:20 Think he's got a couple things. He did mention that Iran thing which I yeah with another clip fit right into it didn't it? What would Iran do I was watching one of the on C-SPAN there was a I don't know if it's a think tank it was it seemed like it But there's some woman that was I get her name here. Oh By the way message for GX to of course as with all the clips that clip will be in the show notes at 361 dot na show notes calm and I'm expecting a remix Let's see. I don't know if I have her name. She's anyway This was a the Israeli peace forum or something and it would see this woman is in some some crazy organization I never heard of discussing

1:32:08 The stupidity of thinking that if even if Iran had the bomb, what would they do with it? Knowing that they would be decimated if they did anything and... David's stupid fucking camera face just wants to go in and start a war on Iran and just steal the war! What would Iran do is to clip. Can I ask you a question? I mean, if they get it, what are they going to do with it? First of all, say they have one or two. have a test, a big test, you know, withdraw from the NPT, do a North Korea. I mean, they can't launch it against anyone because there would be horrific retaliation. So what does it get them? How does it make Hezbollah or Hamas stronger to know that Iran has a nuke? I mean, they're Arabs. They know Iran is never going to use that nuke on their behalf. They know that.

1:32:57 I mean, when I first went to Iran, I discovered Iranians are anti-Semitic. They hate Arabs. More than anyone. So, you know, they're not going to use it on behalf of Hezbollah or Hamas. What Hezbollah and Hamas have are conventional rockets that can do a lot of damage and that's the way they operate. So what exactly does Iran accept? It can beat its breast. The only thing I see, John, is that it's a proxy for Russia. Isn't that basically what Iran is? That's what it used to be, traditionally. Yeah. And since we've kind of, I think, there was some clips I never collected, but Pat Buchanan was on Book TV over the weekend, a couple weeks ago, talking to, of all people, Ralph Nader. So he had two guys that were interviewing each other. It must have been entertaining. It actually was entertaining. Buchanan, because they had more in common than not. I bet, yeah, I bet.

1:33:54 But Buchanan was discussing the fact that when we forced the collapse of the Soviet empire, the USSR, and then they fell back to just the borders of Russia and they left all these things open. Buchanan criticized the US policy for rushing in and then setting up bases right up against the Russian border when that's what the big fear of the Russians always was and all we did was confirm it and now that we're the number one superpower and then we're doing all these crazy things around the world all we're doing is confirming the worst fears which I always thought were bogus. Bogative. That's the definition right there. The worst fears that these guys always had which is that we're maniacs

1:34:41 And then we had you know you needed a big buffer state around Russia because to protect from the maniacs Yeah, like Poland maniacs Russia's gonna invade Poland. You know now that we're setting up all our nukes there and our ballistic missiles It could happen. They're gonna invade. They're already saying it. They're already saying yeah, you know hey Poland if those missiles coming in we're gonna come in by the way Poland is big and It's not some little... No, it's huge. Some little ass... And the most westernized of all those countries along that edge. Huge economy. Huge. What was it, like 80 million people in Poland or something? It's huge. Yeah, no, you're right, John. Thank you. We're maniacs and we're such maniacs that this is great. Now, of course, this goes back to the drone attack that Pakistan, I think the whole the whole. Well, I'll tell you my what I think about Pakistan, what the what the deal is. Yeah, that's interest. It interests me because there is something of something afoot. Hail the foot. Hail the foot. So here's a report. Apparently,

1:35:41 Well, listen to it. We've got to deconstruct this one. U.S. officials now suspect the Taliban may have tricked NATO forces into launching a deadly attack on Pakistani soldiers. 24 Pakistani soldiers were killed on Saturday at two locations near the Afghan border. The attack has sparked massive protests in the streets of Pakistan. And I'm joined now by NBC News Chief Pentagon Correspondent Jim Miklaszewski. So, Mik, why does the U.S. now say it might have been lured into this attack? Well, actually somebody in the US is saying that but quite frankly Thomas Everybody I've talked to doesn't put much credibility into that claim and it and it sounds like if somebody is looking for an excuse as to why the US military killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and blaming the Taliban is just as good as any but some of the facts that no longer appear in dispute are a

1:34:41 And then we had you know you needed a big buffer state around Russia because to protect from the maniacs Yeah, like Poland maniacs Russia's gonna invade Poland. You know now that we're setting up all our nukes there and our ballistic missiles It could happen. They're gonna invade. They're already saying it. They're already saying yeah, you know hey Poland if those missiles coming in we're gonna come in by the way Poland is big and It's not some little... No, it's huge. Some little ass... And the most westernized of all those countries along that edge. Huge economy. Huge. What was it, like 80 million people in Poland or something? It's huge. Yeah, no, you're right, John. Thank you. We're maniacs and we're such maniacs that this is great. Now, of course, this goes back to the drone attack that Pakistan, I think the whole the whole. Well, I'll tell you my what I think about Pakistan, what the what the deal is. Yeah, that's interest. It interests me because there is something of something afoot. Hail the foot. Hail the foot. So here's a report. Apparently,

1:35:41 Well, listen to it. We've got to deconstruct this one. U.S. officials now suspect the Taliban may have tricked NATO forces into launching a deadly attack on Pakistani soldiers. 24 Pakistani soldiers were killed on Saturday at two locations near the Afghan border. The attack has sparked massive protests in the streets of Pakistan. And I'm joined now by NBC News Chief Pentagon Correspondent Jim Miklaszewski. So, Mik, why does the U.S. now say it might have been lured into this attack? Well, actually somebody in the US is saying that but quite frankly Thomas Everybody I've talked to doesn't put much credibility into that claim and it and it sounds like if somebody is looking for an excuse as to why the US military killed 24 Pakistani soldiers and blaming the Taliban is just as good as any but some of the facts that no longer appear in dispute are a

1:36:32 that the US military and Afghan forces were conducting an operation there along the Afghan-Pakistan border, and that somebody from the Pakistan side of the border fired in their direction. Now, even some Pakistani officials on background are acknowledging that soldiers at that outpost suspected Taliban was in the region, fired flares and even fired mortars. The U.S. military claims that before launching any strikes against that area, the U.S. military got permission from the Pakistani military to go ahead with the attack. But here's the bottom line question. The U.S. military

1:37:11 already had that area of the border pretty well mapped out. They knew exactly where the Pakistani outposts were located. So the question is why or who gave the order to attack those Pakistani outposts? Okay, so first of all, yeah, you shot a flare at a drone. Okay, so that's bull crap. I do believe that this was said. I do believe there was permission. I think the whole idea is to split Pakistan up into like, you know, three or four different regions to weaken Pakistan. But by the way, is there a difference between you believe and you do believe? What does that mean? Oh, you say I do believe. Why are you saying do? Well, the fact of the matter is, I'm just saying I got mine on you. Okay. I believe it's an emphasis thing. I think as you know, the Yogi said, when I say things, they come true.

1:38:07 Okay, you do believe that there was a scam involved? Totally. I don't know. I mean, this whole thing has been baffling. I don't even know there's anybody that was actually killed. Well, no, they say there were 24 guys were killed. Yeah, well, they can say whatever they want. Right. But do you not think that this is a tactic that some elements, they're vacuuming here, that some elements within the Pakistani military who run the joint there they're in cahoots or infiltrated. There's something fishy about the whole thing. If we knew it, we had the whole thing mapped out, you know, we're good at logistics, we know where everybody is. Right. And we knew that this was a Pakistani outpost supposedly according to the report. And then the Pakistani military gives us the go-ahead, of course then denies it I'm sure, of course, to go and bomb this thing.

1:39:01 Why? I mean what would be the point, I mean what we're going to get out of it? I think that somehow it's... Were we convinced that it was taken run over run by the Taliban and now they owned it and they were shooting flares at us? I mean this whole thing is so fishy. I have not got one piece of any, I've net one piece of information from anywhere that even sheds any light on this whatsoever. It's gonna have to be one of these intelligence briefings that you were gonna catch on C-SPAN where somebody will describe it. Maybe, maybe, maybe. But there will be, it will be revealed but it won't be revealed to the public at large. It'll be revealed to the audience of 14 people that watch these things on C-SPAN. Two of which are us. Right, it's down to 12. And they're not talking. No.

1:39:49 So the BBC for some reason felt it necessary to go back and prove that the guy who we killed in Libya was indeed Colonel Gaddafi. And I don't know if they understood what they were doing. So they get this guy, a Libyan rebel who speaks decent English, so always suspect, decent English, and he apparently was the first guy to find Gaddafi in the tunnel. But what he says kind of contradicts everything. I thought that maybe he's somebody else. He just looks like Gaddafi. But he... I wasn't believe that he's Gaddafi at all. But when I look at his face, I was sure that he's... That's him, you know, that's him. But his other body... No, no, no. He's not Gaddafi. But when I saw that face, I was sure that he's him.

1:40:48 So they had Gaddafi's head mounted on another body or something? No, it's not like there's nobody in Libya that doesn't look like Gaddafi. I mean, it's like Saddam Hussein apparently had, you know, dozens of body and facial doubles that looked exactly like him. We're still not absolutely sure that was him that we hung. I mean, as far as we're, he could still be living in Gestat, Switzerland for all we know. Paraguay. You know, with a nose job. Paraguay. Or Paraguay next to the bushes. That's right, they got a big estate up there. But, you know, maybe it wasn't Gaddafi. They just, you know, found some guy that looked like him and was hiding. I think that... Go down there! I'm mad. You look too much like Gaddafi. They'll catch you and shoot you. Yeah. No, no, they won't do that. I'm not Gaddafi. Just get in the tunnel. Don't worry about it. You should see the interview with this guy. It goes on for like 10 minutes. And he's just like, you know, and then I spoke, but Gaddafi didn't say anything. It's just like, really? Are you just sending me a message trying to tell me that this is not true or...

1:41:47 Meanwhile in Libya one of the DNA from him have we had any kind of no no please His body sitting there in that cold storage room. It's like Lenin so we have Ali Tarhouni who resigned from the From the council he said this whole election everything is bogative He's a he was the rebel oil minister, and he quit he said the current Libyan government is only supported by less than 10% of Libyans. This is so obvious that this is this the whole thing was a fake and then we have Libya sending 600 fighters into Syria to go and start the crap up over there. It's it's it's really it's it's quite annoying and you're right this is us we're doing this we are the we are the the maniacs and

1:42:50 There was a senior Turkish lawmaker who went to Syria and she came back and this was of course not published widely but it was published on, it was probably a Russian site, that makes sense. She says, Western media outlets are not reflecting the reality in Syria and the West is playing a game in that Arab country. She says it's totally not true. There's no violence, all it is is there's some snipers in these two little towns which are clearly, you know, agent provocateurs and is being played off as if it's people who are revolting against the Assad regime. And I tend to believe that.

1:43:35 Well, the New York Times is still on that path. They have yet to roll over on Syria. When is that going to happen? I don't understand. Let's see what today's paper looks like. Let's see, front page, we got voting in Egypt shows mandate for Islamists. Oh yeah, that was a good job everybody. Why isn't Anderson Pooper over there now? Remember we had cameras on balconies, we're all at Tahrir Square, yes, yes, yes, the uprising, Arab Spring, how come we're not there now? Why is Pooper not there? The subbed headline is ultra-conservative party teams with Muslim Brotherhood, so they'll be running things shortly.

1:44:17 There's a thing of an Indian outsourcing in California, asking voters to raise taxes because we're not taxed enough in California. Six central banks act to buy time in Europe crisis, easing for borrowers, stocks soar. Do they have anything about what they're doing in Italy and Brussels now? And they're soon going to do in every... Here's how it works. Please help us save our country by government bonds, by debt. They're actually and they have the entire football team over there in Italia get my nation pasta. They're, you know, their national team and they're being used as the promo guys. Yeah, no, we're it's great. We're going to go over and buy some bonds. We're going to buy the Italian debt and then Belgium does exactly the same. How stupid are these people? How stupid? I don't know. I'd be selling. Yeah, of course. I'd be selling too.

1:45:18 And I'm looking, looking, looking, there's nothing on Syria. I don't understand it. Full paper. So the New York Times, which is the, we believe to be the mouthpiece of the CIA, is still standing back. Nope, nope, nope. Then it's just not true. Well, they just refuse to go along with it. I think that some of the people who, I think they were getting sick of being pushed around by the British. The British are starting all this trouble. David Cammerface? Camel face. Okay. We did get a couple of interesting donations for this show at the $111.11 level. One came in at $121.21 from Leonardo Sobrato in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. After listening to your last show, he decided to make a contribution to underwrite or sponsor, whatever you want to call it.

1:46:24 Advertising John and Adam's Windows Phone Purchase Fund. I realize it's far less than the amount you wanted but I don't think it will even get you a used one. I don't think so either. But maybe you can add ownership of a Windows Phone to your American dream before the elites revise that dream any further. Please send some karma for a new job this way regardless. Love the show, keep up the good work. You've got karma. Sir Alan Bow is up in Langley, British Columbia. Hey John and Adam, here's my donation after listening to the fake holiday and Sunday no agenda episodes. Not only do I listen to each episode at work, I also listen a second time a week later while commuting in the car in case I miss something while working. Your theory about not listening around holidays does not apply to me. Oh thank you.

1:47:15 Keep up the outstanding work. Bob Appleby in Greensburg, PA, in celebration of my lovely wife's birthday, December 8th, please accept this donation for the world's best podcast, you're part of every weekend. For us, we listen to you gentlemen each Sunday as we attempt to gather our strength once again and once again battle against the continuous stream of lies. and loss of our personal liberties that our government officials push on us. If not for your humor, how could we all begin our week without the smiles you helped put us there? Help put there, sorry. Thank you for providing so much fun each weekend. You can wish my lovely wife and we do that shortly. Can I just remind everybody, it is not the best podcast in the world. We would hate to have that accolade. It is... Best Podcast in the Universe!

1:48:01 It is the best podcast in the universe, not the world. Robert Simpson in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, $111.11. John Smith, Sir John Smith, I'm sorry, in St. Petersburg, Florida, $100. Like most listeners, I find about 90% of the population to be insufferable. Is that good or bad? It was even made more difficult with the death of my 13 year old Beagle. Beagle lab mix who died of liver cancer last week. I really miss the old mutt and I feel for the other listeners fighting cancer. Fuck the cancer. Hey, I interviewed this guy John. John Smith? No, Joshua Cody. He's written a book called Sick

1:48:41 S SIC And there's a reason for it cuz but anyway he's he wrote about his his battle with cancer, but this guy He's like the Andy Warhol of our age man He wrote the most crazy book like and he he took notes while he was on morphine and stuff You've got to read this book. It's one for the book club. I think this guy is a genius Okay, put it on the book. I'm gonna be a sick Martin Peters in VNN Utah. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is Marta Peters in Vianen, Utrecht. Oh, what's this Utah here? It's Vianen. Vianen, Utrecht. Utrecht. Where there's a treaty or something at that place. They do a lot of paperwork in the Netherlands. That was Maastricht.

1:49:31 Oh, Maastricht. Yeah. Not Utrecht. A hundred dollars. There's not enough Springbank left to get pissed. With Springbank, another one of these Isla Scotches that are quite tasty. But I'll donate anyway to the best podcast in the universe. I've been a boner for too long and need a bit of karma to get me my hot milf and little human resource through the holidays. Oh, okay. Let's, uh, why don't we just do a double shot? That's one hot milf, baby. You've got karma. Happy Sinterklaas to the two of you by the time Sinterklaas gets to your place he has gained some weight. This is interesting. You know Sinterklaas is the is the Dutch Santa Claus. Right, but I've told you the story about Sinterklaas. You might as well repeat it. So Sinterklaas is he's the Dutch version of Santa Claus. He's a thin guy and he has the big hat on. He has like a Pope hat and a big stick.

1:50:22 But he has these helpers called Black Pete's and these Black Pete's that you know, it's usually guys in blackface They run around with burlap sacks And if you've been a bad kid, they'll threaten to throw you in the sack and take you back on the steamship back to Spain Yeah, yeah and was interclose comes from Spain comes from Spain yes on the steam ship and But now, so this is celebrated around the world and I saved this note somewhere. I guess in Minnesota somewhere, maybe let me just check. They've outlawed the annual, which has been going on for like 25 years. They've been celebrating Sinterklaas in one of these places in the States. I'll find it in the show notes. But they've outlawed it now because you know, the whole Black Pete thing, it's racist.

1:51:16 So there's no no Dutch Christmas celebration for you Of course it's racist the Dutch invented slavery America gets blamed the Dutch they shipped all the slaves that was their business Sean Palladino and cinnamon son, New Jersey 7701 In the morning John and Adam the town name is cinnamon Sun. That's what I said. It's right off the river from Philly Thanks for making fun of my town the last time I donated I needed a de-douching for not donating for almost six months, but as a worker a Taco Bell I think you understand while I'm barely getting by with this donation. I will donate it $128 which is a as a computer nerd is awesome and

1:52:05 I also got the 1-2-8, you know, it's a binary thing. I also got the domain name noagendamoneydrone.com to compete against infowarsmoneybomb.com. InfoWars has actually earned over $400,000 in the past few months and you guys deserve much more because you aren't as crazy as Alex Jones. Plus, this is the best podcast in the universe. I can get some karma to help me on my job search after three years of working at Taco Bell. Yes, I think he deserves a double shot here. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. Absolutely. Thanks, man. Good luck there, post-Taco Bell.

1:52:44 Roman Andrusco in Bradford, Ontario. Hello John and Adam, Canadian listener becoming more and more dedicated to follow your show. I have hit a bit of a low point in my life. I lost both my girlfriend and job in the same month, feeling a bit down. Sad part is I had a great girlfriend and a great job. I think the universe is trying to teach me something, but I'm not sure what. I'd really like to get my girlfriend Julie back and get another great job. I hope that I can get some karma to help me turn my luck around. All right, we'll do that, man. No problem. Here's some get laid karma. karma. $66 a Roman. David Fox in Raleigh, North Carolina, 5678. My girlfriend said I couldn't listen to your show again until I donated. That's now that's a woman for you. That is a woman right on baby. Love you. First time donor no longer a boner. Could you please hit the beautiful Miss Christie and myself with a long overdue de-douching.

1:53:34 You've been de-douched. And while you're at it, call out the GOP establishment as a bunch of douchebags. There you go. Sir Andrew Schmidt in Atlas, Pennsylvania. Double nickels on the dime in the morning. John Adams wanted to call out my podcast co-host, co-host Sir Craig Jones for a birthday call out. We'll do that. He and I record the Just Getting By podcast on the No Agenda stream. People can go to justgettingbypodcast.com for more information. Thanks for all the work you guys do. And thanks for the opportunity to get our voices heard. Hey, that's Sir Andrew Schmidt. Andrew Schmidt. Yeah, that's nice. That's a derivative. That's a derivative show. That's really cool, actually. Yeah, it's a spin-off. Well, not a spin-off. It's a derivative. It's a spin-off. I like that. Spin-off. Yeah.

1:54:21 Daniel Thorley, another double nickels on the dime from Brighton, East Sussex, sacrificed a lot or sacrificed a shot of JCD's favorite scotch and sent the money to you instead. A shot 5510, it's about right with that stuff. That stuff, you know, we were talking about LeFroigue 30, I looked it up. I should, I could have bought it a few years ago, reasonably priced. Now it's $900 a bottle. What? LeFroigue? Yes. Yeah, 30. My goodness. I've also forwarded a new domain to noageneshow.com. Pencilofpromise.com. Oh, perfect. Pencilofpromise.com. How's that going? Did you and Eric talk about doing the Pencil of Promise as a premium gift item on noageneshow.com? Not yet. It's a good idea.

1:55:04 Yes, I think well it has its moments. Joshua Stoyer in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Double nickels on the dime in the morning. John and Adam, greetings from Gittinmo Nation. Cheesehead, I'd like to request a double shot of karma for my fiancee Court and I and our future endeavors. I'd like to call Kyle Smith out as a douchebag. Turn him on to No Agenda Show a few months ago and having him Having to listen to him blasting the Alex Jones show and he's yet to give a donation Thanks and keep up the great works. He needs a Karma. Well double shot means we'll give him a milf and a karma That's one mother I'd like. You've got karma. Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, double nickels on the dime. Thanks for the Sunday show. This is an addition to my monthly pledge so I can get a shot of out of karma. Be driving in boner. Arriving in the third will not be able to hear the show until I get back, but I expect to feel the karma wash over me at the appropriate time. Hit him. Here comes. Here comes. It's a flood of karma. You've got karma.

1:56:04 Danny Meadows in Stockbridge, Georgia, $52. Throw mom some karma, she just had quadruple bypass. You've got karma. Now we have some miscellaneous donations. Geek Rolling, $51.39 out of Los Angeles. Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, $50. Christopher Lawton, Dartmouth, Massachusetts. Greg Brunsell, Kenosha, Wisconsin. And Lucas, Taima. Taima. Taima. Very good. Taima. From Oostreest. Yes, exactly. Next to my, he gave 50 bucks and says next to his 11.11 subscription here is an extra donation. Please send me some karma to liberateamsterdam.liberateamsterdam.nl. You've got karma. Some sort of a thing that takes place on the 10th of December at the

1:56:58 Burr's Plain. Burr's Plain. It's like the Wall Street of Amsterdam. Burr's Plain. Oh, it's Occupy Burr's Plain. The goal of this activity is to bring classical liberalism and libertarianism to the streets. Good luck. Good luck with that. Yeah, Paul Alvid in Toronto, Ontario, 50 bucks, some karma for him. and Sir Jimmy's new podcast, Emergency Broadcast System. He says he also had a hard drive crash. He believes this brings him to an X amount of money, but it's not quite what he wanted. Here you go for your podcast. It's another one that I believe is on the stream. And finally, last but not least, is Black Knight Robert Durden from Hoboken. I have a couple of

1:57:39 A couple of karma requests that came in. Good day, Adam C. JCD. Just call me Roll SK from the chat room and I'm going to be a part-time producer. Sadly, part-time donor boner. However, I can explain my lack of donation of late. I would like to petition you for some karma. I've spent the past year going through a divorce. No kids, luckily. I was four days away from completing it uncontested. I just found out that my ex-wife is going to try and take my home and all my assets on top of... Don't laugh. That's horrible. On top of that, she's asking for over $30,000 in support for the past year. The thing is, she left me to live with her parents in Arizona and refused any communication since. So even if I wanted to, there was no way I could help. The Canadian divorce system is very harsh on any spouse who makes the majority of the money, and I will likely not come out of this clean. I just hope I can keep my house.

1:58:29 Please send some karma, and I will resubscribe to the mothership passport even though PayPal unsubscribed me some time ago anything I can send you is Anything I can send you is something she can't take oh living the dream up and get mo nation great white north okay my friend I think you deserve a little shot of karma there. You've got karma. That's some divorce karma We also got a note from Dolmett, Dirk Modro, who sent us the drunken note last week that got us off on the tangent about scotches. And he says he's sober now. Well, stop. It's not interesting. If he's sober, there's no good. That's what I'm kind of thinking. But he did make the argument that he should have been given a knighthood because he's up over the thousand mark. But I'm going to nix this and I'm going to tell you why. Really? Oh. I think he's a knight, not a black knight, because we ran that piece, that drunk piece,

1:59:23 He didn't get in before the deadline of midnight. I just ran it because I thought it was good to read. So I prematurely accepted his donation and then ran his drunken note. So I'm not sure what do you think we should do because he wants a black knighthood or expects one or thinks he's got one when I'm not sure that he wouldn't have just gotten one because this is the day we should have been reading his note. I think is a major controversy that we have to be discussing. It is a controversy. So what you're saying is because you slipped in his drunk donation. Well, wait a minute. When you did that, John, were you drunk at the time? No. Oh, well, then I think he's a black knight. Why? Because if you had slipped up and it was a mistake and you were drunk, then it would have been okay as a drunk knight, a black knight.

2:00:15 Why don't we just make him a drunk knight? At a compromise. No, we're not gonna invent a new category. Come on, come on. You can be a drunk knight. Keep falling off the horse, it's too dangerous. I think he's asking for trouble. I think there's liability issues. I think we should give him this black knight. I think it should be a drunk knight. How about a black drunk knight? We'll make him a black knight. Black knight? Alright, alright then. I still think drunk knight is the way to go. Meh. I'm just saying. That would be a samurai. All right, I like that. How do you become a samurai? I don't know you become a samurai if all of your donations were done like a title though I mean, I don't think there's a desert titles is different than a it's kind of something. We'll figure it out John Let's do some birthday. I'm almost done John from Northwest PA my wife two little girls father stepmother and father-in-law be traveling to Disney World this Friday for the first trip

2:01:08 I'd be grateful if you could bestow upon us some travel karma during the show so we'll happily do that you've got Karma, and then finally sir Rory stone I would love of course we always break for our nights I'd love a karma shout out today because my mother will be in surgery just as the show is starting Night in need of some karma for his mother my mother's getting her back fused today. Ah And will be in bed for about 10 weeks. Just want karma from mom to encourage her speedy recovery. Well, we always have karma from moms. You've got karma. Especially if it's coming from one of our nights. So thank you so much. Remember, karma is only good for about a week, so you need to bear that in mind if you're requesting some of that.

2:01:50 And you need to up the ante if you want it for a sports team. We're not doing those anymore. But all of this can be found, including the most uninteresting donation number in the world, which is 124.07 or is it 127.04? That was 124. 124.07 I think, yeah. The most uninteresting number in the world. Well let me check the book of knowledge. Yeah, you consult the book of knowledge. It's in there. 124.07 And the way you can do that is by simply clicking your mouse to... No, that does not exist. I think it was... Yeah, I also go to NoahGeneration and pick up a slave t-shirt and perhaps some other... So Ms. Mickey has, she's bought a mannequin.

2:02:33 She's ordered one, you know, like a clothing mannequin for her photography stuff so she can practice on non live models and she should like the man like a store mannequin not not one of those dressmakers thing correct correct and she emailed me the picture and I swear to God I got turned on I'm like, this model is hot. Let me write the date of this. This model is hot. And I said, is it wrong that I got turned on by the mannequin? She said, no, I got turned on by the mannequin too. Anyway, the point is, every single time we have something special on the show, like the slave t-shirt or something else, she's going to do a picture of the mannequin, you know, with whatever the special thing is. So we could have her drunk one time, like bend her over, like puking or something with her hair all messy.

2:03:20 Yeah, you could take some good Campbell's chicken soup and pour it on the deck there. We could do all kinds of cool stuff. Yeah, it'd be funny. Yeah, but whenever we have something, but particularly the merchandise. Sick. Yes. Well, we're in Austin. We can do whatever we want, particularly the merchandise. She's going to be taking product shots. I'm very excited about that. Yeah. I can tell you're blown away, John. That's great. Yeah, no, I can't imagine. It's amazing that anyone would think of such a thing. It's your birthday, birthday, of no one's gender. Hello! Dame Jess Walters congratulates her husband, Sir Troy Walters, celebrating on, uh, tomorrow, on the 2nd. Bob Appledeece says happy birthday to his wife, Kathy. She celebrates on the 8th. And Sir Andrew Schmidt

2:04:09 Uh, congratulations, uh, podcast co-host Sir Craig Jones who turns 23 today. Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show! That's a big one. Where's your- where's your blade, man? Here it comes. Did you come to the show unprepared? No, it's right here. No, you got it. Okay. Emperor Knighthood's Michael Henry, Robert Simpson, and Dirk Madro, please step forward as all three of you have contributed to the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe! in the amount of at least $1,000 and special props go to Dirk Madra who has donated drunk and will receive his black knighthood today. And your rings are on the way and I hereby pronounce thee Sir Michael, Sir Robert, and Sir Dirk, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys Chardonnay, and Hot Pants and Booze here for you.

2:05:05 Thank you for your support of the no agenda show to vorac.org Slash and a we could not do this program without you that is a fact Not just a fact of the matter, that is a fact. It's a fact of the bladder. That's what you can do. The fact of the bladder is. It's a fact of the bladder. That's good. It has a nice sound to it. I like it. We should keep the fact of the bladder. It's as good as a bogative. And you can actually slip that in when you're testifying before the congressional committee. The fact of the bladder is, they won't even notice. Exactly. No one's listening.

2:05:40 snoring. What did he just say? So there's a funny little story just before we get to some more normal stories. You got to play this. This was just run off on the Democracy Now! show as a news item and I was just a head shaker. It's the WTF clip. New York City Council has voted to sue Mayor Michael Bloomberg over new restrictions that critics say will force homeless people from shelters out into the streets. Under the new rules, adults seeking to spend the night at shelters would be required to submit information including documents about their housing history and finances. The council is expected to file its suit next month. Yeah, this is a big deal in New York. Wait a minute, let me get this straight. Yeah, we're kicking out the homeless. So you got some homeless bum.

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2:05:40 snoring. What did he just say? So there's a funny little story just before we get to some more normal stories. You got to play this. This was just run off on the Democracy Now! show as a news item and I was just a head shaker. It's the WTF clip. New York City Council has voted to sue Mayor Michael Bloomberg over new restrictions that critics say will force homeless people from shelters out into the streets. Under the new rules, adults seeking to spend the night at shelters would be required to submit information including documents about their housing history and finances. The council is expected to file its suit next month. Yeah, this is a big deal in New York. Wait a minute, let me get this straight. Yeah, we're kicking out the homeless. So you got some homeless bum.

2:06:28 who's probably half insane, he's a wreck. And you want to see his paperwork about his housing history and his finances? The guy's got no money. Yeah, no, but you know who started this? Bloomberg think everyone keeps around a bunch of files, folders, where you gotta keep everything for seven years for the IRS or something like that? I mean, what is the, what kind of thinking is this? It's a legal way to get rid of bums. The guy is homeless. Yeah, it's how you get rid of bums. This is, Giuliani started this. They threw him all under the bridge. George Washington Bridge, they threw him out, threw him to Jersey, Pennsylvania. They're just throwing him out, throw him out of New York City. They are your papers. You got no papers? Or else! Yeah, that's not funny. It's what New York City has become.

2:07:17 Bloomberg is Bloomberg a douchebag. Yeah, he's turning into a real big douchebag Another word you will not hear on mainstream media because it's bad. It's a bad word. Can't say that I got a funny little thing for you. Yeah, I got a funny little thing for you here. Have you heard of the new Batmobile in North Carolina? Uh-huh. Well, here is the commercial and you better watch out because the Batmobile is coming to get you. It's sleek, powerful, and efficient. And this crime fighter is on North Carolina roads and coming to a city near you. If you're drinking and driving, watch out for the Batmobile. The breath alcohol testing mobile unit is a remote processing station and mobile courtroom for immediate on-site forensic tests and judicial appearances.

2:07:58 The Batmobile, law enforcement's latest tool in the fight against drunk driving. Remember, it's booze it and lose it. Brought to you by the North Carolina Governor's Highway Safety Program. You should see this truck! The Batmobile so they set up a sobriety checkpoint and then you blow into the tube They can take your blood right there, and they got a judge on board and they can a jail It's all the old west where they always have some hanging judge. It's groovy. That's right The hanging judge. Yeah, but the thing looks amazing. It's a beautiful thing. And they got the little Batman theme in there. I'm looking at it now. The Batmobile. It looks like a fire truck. It looks like an ambulance or something. It's huge. It's a big bus. Yeah. With a hanging judge and with a jail and a blood lab. For alcohol. Booze it and lose it. Booze it and lose it. Hey, donate drunk before you drive.

2:09:00 Booze it and lose it. Unbelievable. That's great. And neoprohibitionism continues. Well, not just that, but the attack on free speech is getting out of control. This bullying thing, which I think we now have correctly identified is being used as a meme and being taught to our children as an erosion of your First Amendment right first amendment. Yeah, totally so bullying could be like well, of course the only bully everything's bullying it seems yeah, well the way that you can't see you can't When bullying is like, you're gay, you're a fag, then of course, like, oh, well, you can't do that. It's also wrong. You know, that is a form. It's messed up. That is a form of bullying and a form of First Amendment right exercising of First Amendment right. And the whole idea is you should be able to say, well, yeah, you're an ugly, you know, your mom sucks toad or whatever.

2:09:57 But this is now, it's being taken to the extreme in Minnesota. There's now even an executive order for the bullying squad. Because Minnesota has one of the weakest bullying laws in the nation, Governor Dayton today announced a task force to recommend changes. You know, witness that children in Minnesota are being subjected to a form of harassment, a form of emotional torture. Wow, I hadn't even heard that. Emotional torture. Wow. This is a big one. People in authority are not responding and not preventing that and not acting upon it. It's just something that's so un-Minnesotan that it's hard to fathom. The Governor's executive order forms a task force of no more than 15 people, including the Commissioners of Education and Public Safety. It's to make its recommendations to the Governor no later than next August 1st. But one of the challenges is engaging kids themselves.

2:10:50 At the bullying hotline and website at the Pacer Center in Bloomington, counselors say one of the number one reasons kids don't report bullying is because they're afraid they'll be next. Now, here's what I don't understand. Bullying hotline? Yeah, yeah. When a cop walks by and nonchalantly sprays you with pepper spray, that's not bullying? But when kids are calling each other names? Then there's, oh, we need a hotline, we need a task force, we need anti-bullying laws. This is not good for the general population, for our kids. They have to learn to stand up for themselves. I don't know. It doesn't seem like a good thing to me. It's a nanny state. Well, I think it's worse than that. Yeah, well, it is worse. But a nanny state is worse. I mean, it is in and of itself worse.

2:11:49 I don't know what that means. I guess it was not very well put. The fact of the bladder is that we somehow we have to see the reason why you're not allowed to say anything about this and this is what bugs me so much is because they only report on bullying when it comes to kids who are gay. Then it's like oh you may you can't say anything about that You can't you can't say like that's not okay, and there's bullying because you know it's gay which by the way I think as a bicurious male. I'm insulted by that you should be yeah, because you know gay guys and girls can come up for themselves They can stand up for themselves well most of the gay guys are so pumped up It's like you do a pulp exactly, but how come I?

2:12:33 I don't like it. I don't. It's a real problem and I am going to continue to say that we have to do away with all those, okay I'll call it nanny state, this bullying bull crap. Stop it already. Send the kid to jujitsu. They're bullying us over it. Well, I mean you still have kids who are young enough. Yeah, nobody's being bullied currently. Why not because your kids are educated to Stand up for themselves and bully back right? I don't know they don't bullet well Eric probably does bully back he's Careful yeah More of the bully type but careful careful. So yeah Eric is actually a bully is what you're saying he was he's just a Eric doesn't put up with any bullcrap. Let's put it that way. Yeah. Well. I don't think I look at Jay I don't think she would put up with any bullcrap would she oh

2:13:25 Probably. But you wouldn't be upset by it. She wouldn't be crying. Yeah. You'd be like, oh, get lost. And by the way, Michelle Obama should be arrested for bullying. She's scaring kids. Come up here. She's a bully. Come up here. So there was this guy, there's a book we should get to put on the list called, it's written by Paul Van Buren, We Meant Well. This guy works for the State Department currently still works for the State Department because they can't seem to fire him who wrote this scathing book about our escapades in Iraq By and like naming names and talking about all the ways the book called the green zone or that the movie was based on Now this is a fairly new book. I think look it up on the book of knowledge. It's called We we meant well

2:14:18 And how I, I think the whole title is We Meant Well, How I Helped Lose, I, How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People. Right. And he's got a website, wementwell.com, which has got a bunch of nasty stuff on it. But I got a couple clips I want to run through, which I just think is kind of funny, especially the part where he, he kind of gets fired, but they keep paying him. Hold on a second, which one is that? That's the first one. Peter Van Buren, clip one. And also how it is you're still working for the State Department, well, working after a fashion. The State Department is very much like the mafia in the sense that they don't like you to talk about the family outside the family. And what my book did was expose some of the failings of State Department leadership from the highest levels down to the levels where I worked that contributed to the lack of success in Iraq.

2:15:13 This was not taken very well by the State Department and I was initially punished by having my security clearance removed, ostensibly because of a link, not a leak, a link on my blog at wementwell.com to a WikiLeaks document. In fact, the 500-pound gorilla in the room was the book. The State Department then sought to make me disappear, shave off my beard and push me out of the tribe, if you will. I was placed on administrative leave six weeks ago. My badge was taken away, my diplomatic passport was taken from me. I was marched out to the front door where I was ceremoniously told I was officially banned from entering any State Department facility, and I was sent home.

2:15:59 Unfortunately, the State Department found no mechanism to actually punish me or challenge me in a way that I could respond to. So they sent me to sit at home with full pay, to be quiet, to stay out of the way, to make me go away. I'm sending an email right now. I'm getting this guy in the big book show. Sounds awesome. I like the fact that he's getting paid full pay sitting on his duff at home tells you something's wrong with this government. I love it, the first rule about the State Department is you don't talk about the State Department. I know, it's funny. So this goes on, by the way, this goes on endlessly, this interview. But he does have this one little point, which is a little long, but it's my long clip. He talks about the oversized embassy and as he talks about it, and we've talked about the stupid embassy in Iraq. It's still yet to be explained why this embassy is there and why it's so... Oh, I know why. Do you want to play the clip first?

2:17:01 Because you know what's happening at this very minute? Do you know that the embassy is filled to the brim with bankers? With bankers? What do you mean with bankers? Oh yeah, they're doing a huge... They're they're gonna buy the the mobile phone system. All right. This is a bonanza all the bankers are over there They've all got security meeting up the Iraq. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, this is happening right now Goldman Sachs opening offices Oh, yeah, the whole it's a comp this is the takeover the military was just you know It's just to get some annoying people out of the way now. There's a huge report about that. I We'll play this clip about the oversized embassy. Peter, I just want to return to the point that you and our previous guest have also raised about the size of the U.S. embassy in Iraq. So with the U.S. military withdrawal scheduled for the end of this year,

2:17:51 You have also mentioned in a recent article, as have others, that the State Department will be required to hire thousands and thousands of contractors to fulfill security, as well as other services that the military previously provided. Can you say a little about that? Absolutely. The State Department has created the world's largest embassy in Baghdad, literally the size of the Vatican, something you can see from space. And with the military leaving, has hired over 5,000 mercenaries, contract security people, similar to Blackwater under some different names, as well as creating its own armed air force, its own blood system to supply people who are injured, and a whole lot of other militarized functions that have no place in diplomacy.

2:18:38 In many people's minds, the 16,000 personnel who are going to occupy the State Department facilities are nothing more than an extension of the occupation of Iraq, albeit under civilian control rather than military control. In countries around the world the size of Iraq, the State Department typically will have a mission of 100-150 people. In Iraq before the 1991 Gulf War, our embassy was relatively small, about the size of the mathematics building at some state college with about 100 people working in it. And that is typical around the world for us to have a medium-sized embassy like that in a country that is about the size and complexity of Iraq.

2:19:20 Why 16,000 people? Why 5,000 armed security contractors? Why an Air Force helicopters with weapons? Why all this equipment? The State Department is occupying Iraq. It's an attempt to continue our influence there, absent the military, or at least until Joe Biden can negotiate a return of the military to Iraq. Do you think that's why he was in Iraq? I think Joe was there for a couple of things, partially of course the negotiations that your previous guest referred to, but I think also this is an attempt to have a victory lap, if you will. The president campaigned on getting the United States out of Iraq. It was only because the Iraqis refused to grant us immunity for our soldiers that the president was able to fulfill his campaign promise. That said, the White House is trying to make the most of it, announcing that the president has done what he said he was going to do. And I think Biden's visit to Iraq was something of a chance to crow a little bit, to celebrate the end of the war at Obama's hands and to run a victory lap.

2:20:21 I'd like to propose that no VIP be allowed to go to Iraq, certainly not to announce anything using the words victory or success, until he or she is willing to do that on an announced visit with the airplane landing in the daytime. Now Joe Biden was there with all the bankers. That was the report that I got. And they came in at the dead of night I guess. Of course. Wow. Well, that's that's yeah, I'm getting this guy the big book show. He sounds awesome He's a real interesting guy, and he's just any just a lot of stories. He needs to watch out though Yeah, probably does need to watch on but did you hear about the the notary poisoning would be my prediction I have a quick to watch a food poisoning Come on, man. The hot tub with a lid on is my favorite food poisoning is old So we have a couple of two to the heads

2:21:15 that we need to mention before we go. The first is this, and this is a total, total obvious two to the head cover up for the bankers, the bastard bankers. They killed the notary public. Yeah, that's a good one. Here's a nice little report from some local station. The notary who signed tens of thousands of false documents in that massive robo-signing foreclosure fraud scheme was found dead in her home on Monday. Let's go straight to News 3's Marissa Mike. Marissa, so what do we know now? Details are limited as to how 43-year-old Tracy Lawrence died, but sources say her body was found yesterday by a police officer. Always kind of suspicious. We learned Metro homicide detectives were working the case, but they ruled out homicide. It is unclear if she died from natural causes or if this was a suicide.

2:22:09 Natural causes suicide is there any other option you could think of John? Lawrence was supposed to be in court at 830 yesterday morning for her sentencing hearing when her attorney did not hear from her for more than an hour the Deputy Attorney General asked the judge for a bench warrant to be issued for Lawrence the judge denied it after Lawrence's attorney expressed concern for her clients well-being the Attorney General's office contacted Metro and officers found her in her apartment. Last Monday, Lawrence pled guilty to only one criminal charge of notary fraud. She would have only had to face a year in prison and or a $2,000 fine. That's why I would suicide myself.

2:22:50 Oh, I'm going to, I'm in big trouble, I'm gonna kill myself. Gary Trafford and Geraldine Shepard, two title holders from California, are allegedly behind the foreclosure fraud. They're accused of advising employees to forge signatures on default notices between 2005 and 2008. The two have yet to be arrested and we're told they are still in California. Yeah, so they're on the run. They're like, I don't want to be suicided, I gotta run away. The report is really funny at the end. The Attorney General's office is negotiating the terms of surrender for the pair. They're expected to turn themselves in sometime in December. Now we're still waiting to hear from the Clark County coroner for the results of a toxicology report and Tracy Lawrence's cause of death. We will stay on top of this story and bring you the very latest just as soon as we receive any updates. Yeah, how much you want to bet that's not actually going to happen?

2:23:44 Well, we'll be sure to update you. We'll give you when we get the toxicology report. She died from lead poisoning to the head Lead to the head now that was not the only whistleblower because of course that's what's going on She's a whistleblower. She knows a hell of a lot They didn't want her testifying in court at all because then everything starts to unravel so they had to get rid of her and Now, this is a very interesting a Marine, and this only happened a couple of months ago, got the highest, the Medal of Honor from the president. Big deal, big ceremony at the White House, videos on WhiteHouse.gov. And then this Marine subsequently accused his employer, BAE, of selling weapons to, I think, rifle scopes to Pakistan.

2:24:29 So what I think happened is this guy's a whistleblower. He had the goods and he was like, you know, you guys suck. I'm going to tell on you guys. And then the White House went on and on and on. Look, we'll we'll we'll decorate you. We'll make you a hero. Come over here. And he goes ahead and he does it anyway. And then, of course. A recent Medal of Honor recipient is suing a former employer, defense contractor BAE Systems. Former Marine Sergeant Dakota Meyer claims the company ruined his chances at getting a job in the industry by saying he has drinking and mental issues. You're insane! You're insane! Decorated Marine, war hero, you're insane. Sorry, son, you're insane.

2:25:12 You know it goes right back to what you said we're maniacs We're total maniacs and then the the big investigation of course if you'd listen to this podcast the best podcast in the universe you would know that this whole thing was a setup but it's a little different than we thought it was I think the true story is now surfacing if Dominique Strauss-Kahn was Dominique Strauss-Kahn's downfall the result of a plot to derail his French presidential ambitions an investigative report by a US journalist raises questions over the ex-IMF chief's arrest on charges of sexually assaulting a hotel maid in New York in May. It claims a Sofitel employee and another man were filmed apparently celebrating as they waited for police to arrive.

2:25:55 queries whether DSK's BlackBerry phone was hacked. They were literally high-fiving on the video. They're like, yeah, right on, we nailed that motherfucker. By his political rivals. The leader of President Sarkozy's ruling conservatives dismissed such suggestions, saying conclusions could be drawn if there were facts or clear evidence. But as long as this is just gossip, rumors and allegations based on anonymous. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. So what I think happened Is these guys just got lucky. They were hacking his phone and his phone by the way, it did go missing. He couldn't find his phone. Remember the whole thing? He went back to the hotel to get his phone. That was kind of the story. And then somehow they ended up naked in the bathroom. Well, I think he did just his penis fell on that poor maid. That was probably just him just being an idiot in the douchebag. But they cleverly used that.

2:26:51 to distract from the fact that That they were actually just hacking the guy's phone to get him You know to get him out of the race and to get Christine Lagarde into the IMF and that's the cover-up Yeah, cuz the guard is gonna be the one that becomes a president and or prime minister eventually Queen Queen He's going to become queen of the universe. All right, that's about all like I mean there's a I mean we should mention that the The Senate approved the, what was it, the belligerent terrorist bill. So now that goes to the president who could of course veto it if he had any balls. That is, what is it, 1860, 1680? The one that allows a secret panel to essentially determine if you're belligerent and if you're belligerent then you go to Gitmo.

2:27:48 Yeah, yeah, there's I yeah, I think it still has to be something has to be resolved at the house level though I don't think so as 61 to 37 vote Yeah, but you still you can't just pass a bill in the Senate and send it to the president. Well didn't it already go through the House? I don't know. I have to look into it. I mean I didn't think the thing was gonna get this far so I didn't follow it as closely as I should have. No, I think it goes to everything I'm reading here. Well if it came out of the House and then went to the Senate and then they just you know didn't do anything negative to it, they could just go to it right to the president after that I guess. I don't know. I'll look into it. Today it would be discussed on Sunday right but Tuesday 61 or 30 37 vote granted the military dibs exposed a deep rift with it within the Democratic Party and So now they're kind of looking at it differently now as will Obama veto this But I think it's done veto if it gives the president more power

2:28:45 Well, no, of course not. Of course it's not going to be that, but that's the only, that's the only thing we have left. Otherwise it's a done deal. I think, I think it's done. If it's in the Senate, it doesn't go from Senate to the House. It goes, it's House to Senate, right? No, it can go any way it wants. Oh, really? Yeah. The Senate dreams up stuff out of the blue and says, Hey, you guys look at this. What do you think? And that's what all these committees for, they're supposed to organize this stuff. I think it's awesome. Yeah, that's about I got some stuff. I'll keep it for some drone nation stuff, which is pretty funny We'll keep that for Sunday unless you have no I'm good to go some other pressing yeah, I think we covered all the important stuff well, I think we have once again brought you two and a half hours of quality analysis including numerology about tech influencers John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry

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