Bogative Charity

00:00 It's said to invigorate the chi. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday November 20th 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 358 This is no agenda Right in the November Skeeters here at Camp MoFo, in the center of the Lone Star State. In the morning everybody! I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where the clouds of doom are forming overhead... ...I am John C. Dvorak We got clouds of doom here as well by the way Good No it's not good It says we're supposed to have 300 days of sunshine in Austin Who says this?

00:45 Is that right? Is that what they actually claim? Yeah, the book of knowledge claims that. Huh... yeah it's weird we had see on Friday it was very cold and windy really we got like a windstorm and then yesterday all of a sudden boop 75 degrees! It was great beautiful And today it's another 74 degrees in the morning here at Camp MoFo, where I still have not done the sound...the acoustic echo de-echoing stuff. It's a...they don't have foam in Austin! You go order by mail order Yeah, I know well that's what I wound up doing but it wasn't in time for the show now was it?

01:29 So you're just gonna get the bumpy foam, that stuff? No I mean since i'm going to order it anyway. I figured might as well get like the professional stuff It's not that expensive You know just get a couple of those beautiful looking tiles and pop them on the wall here and there Uh...I put up the green screens in the Camp MoFo studio uh... got lights up so thats helping a little bit but um.. its not entirely there yet Well, I don't know what the difference between the professional stuff is and the regular. Nothing it just looks better People come in and go hey that looks professional That's the only difference I'm going with egg cartons Yeah yeah yeah that has kind of a low-tech look to it you think? Just a little bit Anyway in the morning to you Johnny boy

02:22 In the morning to you Adam Curry and all in the morning to all ships at sea, pilots in the air which are probably not listening boots on the ground and also feet near. Yes indeed and of course all our human resources in the chat room at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net The stream now by the way managed by Gitmo Slave and Mr Oil and they've got like regular shows going on now we got what's this I forget all the names. We got like a guy who's on live from England before us on that Oh, live from England? Yeah! It's uh... Bit of alright Well it's pretty cool What's his name again? Now i sound like a douchebag Blair? No no it's not Blair It's uhh... I'm just blanking on it for a second It'll come to me Lee Brown That's his name Lee Brown

03:21 Lee Brown? Lee, yes. Lee Brown and he does a... I think he does a show every single day it's Dirty Boxers which i guess means Soiled Underwear Yeah, or either that or fighters who play unfairly. Right? And then we have I think we got a new show like Dan is doing a show after the Sundays and Thursdays. We gotta get a schedule. I gotta figure it all out but its nice Anyway happy to see everyone show up once again coming to you from Camp Mofo here in central Tejas and I want to thank all of our human resources for not only making this move possible

04:01 possible through your support of the show but check this out John now I have yeah check this well hold on here it is he wanted to distance himself from the racial discussion you hear that's the Obama can you hear that? Yeah what is it now I have the TV C-SPAN hooked into my board Was able to get a whole new setup so we can be listening to C-SPAN in real time and make Yeah, exactly. We should just do that all the time 24 7 show with that. Just wake up John. Let's go watch some C-SPAN on the stream

03:21 Lee Brown? Lee, yes. Lee Brown and he does a... I think he does a show every single day it's Dirty Boxers which i guess means Soiled Underwear Yeah, or either that or fighters who play unfairly. Right? And then we have I think we got a new show like Dan is doing a show after the Sundays and Thursdays. We gotta get a schedule. I gotta figure it all out but its nice Anyway happy to see everyone show up once again coming to you from Camp Mofo here in central Tejas and I want to thank all of our human resources for not only making this move possible

04:01 possible through your support of the show but check this out John now I have yeah check this well hold on here it is he wanted to distance himself from the racial discussion you hear that's the Obama can you hear that? Yeah what is it now I have the TV C-SPAN hooked into my board Was able to get a whole new setup so we can be listening to C-SPAN in real time and make Yeah, exactly. We should just do that all the time 24 7 show with that. Just wake up John. Let's go watch some C-SPAN on the stream

04:40 It's boring today is What is it his book TV? But but it's cool because I got finally. I got the DVR thing that you know For some reason Time Warner cable in Austin is so much more advanced than Los Angeles Here, you've got the system where if you record something on one set then you can go and replay it on the other In a different room which makes so much sense And I was watching, so last night I'm getting ready for the show and now of course I can actually be preparing and you know sitting in the studio. And Stossel was on... This is the great thing about the setup if I catch something that I really like I can just Rewind it a little bit hit record in the studio on the board, and then I have to clip oh Yeah, that means we're gonna be over clipped. No not necessarily because we're still like unpacking boxes So it was pretty busy. I didn't have my normal My normal opportunity to lounge and watch C-SPAN

05:40 But you know we've been trying to figure out this bullying thing for a long time. You know what really the agenda is behind it Yeah Well, Stossel had some guy on yesterday who's a he has a foundation which is I think fire is the name of it like free intellectual resource enterprise anyway they fight for free speech on university campuses and they have this whole list of like you know Ivy League schools that suppress free speech which of course doesn't surprise me. Like Harvard and Yale And he said something kind of... They don't really suppress free speech, they just shout you down. Well yeah exactly and he said something in passing which all of a sudden hit me I'm like oh of course that's what this bullying is all about check this out well Harvey Silverglas has devoted his career to that question into defending speech when it's censored or people who are punished for something they say and now you say there are new threats to speech

04:40 It's boring today is What is it his book TV? But but it's cool because I got finally. I got the DVR thing that you know For some reason Time Warner cable in Austin is so much more advanced than Los Angeles Here, you've got the system where if you record something on one set then you can go and replay it on the other In a different room which makes so much sense And I was watching, so last night I'm getting ready for the show and now of course I can actually be preparing and you know sitting in the studio. And Stossel was on... This is the great thing about the setup if I catch something that I really like I can just Rewind it a little bit hit record in the studio on the board, and then I have to clip oh Yeah, that means we're gonna be over clipped. No not necessarily because we're still like unpacking boxes So it was pretty busy. I didn't have my normal My normal opportunity to lounge and watch C-SPAN

05:40 But you know we've been trying to figure out this bullying thing for a long time. You know what really the agenda is behind it Yeah Well, Stossel had some guy on yesterday who's a he has a foundation which is I think fire is the name of it like free intellectual resource enterprise anyway they fight for free speech on university campuses and they have this whole list of like you know Ivy League schools that suppress free speech which of course doesn't surprise me. Like Harvard and Yale And he said something kind of... They don't really suppress free speech, they just shout you down. Well yeah exactly and he said something in passing which all of a sudden hit me I'm like oh of course that's what this bullying is all about check this out well Harvey Silverglas has devoted his career to that question into defending speech when it's censored or people who are punished for something they say and now you say there are new threats to speech

06:41 Like what well the old threats we managed to beat mostly in court and that are also in the court of public opinion And so the censors have simply come up with new terms for speech They don't like they call it harassment or they call it bullying There you go Hello I buy that. Yeah, because you know of course harassment is this is something we've talked about on the show. I'm the guy that would you know when when I was at the Mevo office when I still had a function there and a desk um yeah I would say to uh two women all the time oh you change your hair looks really pretty and you would like cringe

07:24 Yeah, I took the training. I didn't take the training and to me that's like an expression of my First Amendment right now should be able to say that but in a sexual harassment in the state of California rights which of course is really An infringement of bullying. Yeah, but it's an infringement on my first amendment right to free speech the guy actually explains that very situation and how free speech is supposed to work Unless of course you got indoctrinated by these shut up slave training Which you took now before bullying the attack on speech came from feminists who said he can't just say anything in the workplace Because certain things harass women well

08:06 Right, well that was the harassment phase. They tried to restrict speech on the theory that harassment made it impossible for somebody in a historically disadvantaged group to get their work done, to study and get an education... And it might if you have a bunch of guys making cracks constantly about women, whites abusing blacks verbally? You know speech can be very unpleasant and it is the unpleasant speech that most needs protection. But what about the rights of the blacks or the women who are in this horrible speech? Well you've got to right to respond with horrible speech if you are attacked with horrible speech That's the company I want to work in

08:51 Oh, can you imagine? Yeah! I can't imagine. That's the way it should be. It's like you guys shouting at each other. Hey! Fuck you! Hey douchebag- No you can't say that You can say... Well I guess you CAN say that actually What am i talking about? That's free speech! Yeah, I like that. I think that's the way it should be Oh you would but you took that stupid online course and yet to go through 500 pages It's frightening yeah And it's like the online drivers class like if you if you click through too fast it says oh, I'm sorry I don't think you actually were able to read that page is that fast go back and do it again They have all those little gotchas in there. This course this was a course that Was on

09:36 It was apparently the state of California requires certain levels of management to have taken this course. Yeah, and so you apparently never did no I got to like page 13 and went like can't do this and I never completed it. I thought it was fantastic because it goes into such detail about the kind because it gives you it gives you case law tells you the kinds of cases that came up some woman you know sues over the most minor of offenses. It's almost as though you can't even talk to a woman in the workplace. That was what this was basically all about, shut up! Yeah when I had my company in New York... Shut up slave or just shut up. When I had my company in New York, the company that we took public

10:21 This was in the dot-com, actually we took it public a couple years before the dot com explosion. But when the bubble started to happen there were literally lawyers downstairs in front of the door and a woman would walk out and say hey hi I'm you know So-and-so from this law firm and the form of ambulance chaser. Yeah, well not just ambulance chase ambulance pusher I'd call him Hey did name any of your bosses say anything inappropriate today? And we would get sued all the time and we had insurance for that and The settlement would pretty much be for just about the amount that we were insured for That's the way it works miss big scam the whole thing

11:02 Well, you know the when you read like if you took taking the course and you see some of this stuff You realize that there are people and I believe that one woman who? went after Herman Cain Right is one of them. She has a background on she was she was kind of hot I have to say yeah, she's perfect Exactly screwed for sure yeah, and It seems as though there are people out here That actually make a living doing this They go to work for a company under some pretense, they get the job and then they look to get harassed. And then they sue the company and they get like you know half a million dollars whatever. And-and then they go to the next company because you can't carry well you can't

11:46 If they're looking for employment someplace else, you can't as an employer say that you were sued out of existence by this person because that's illegal. Because there is another whole course on how to hire people and those kinds of things can be done. You can't be honest! It's amazing! Yeah well I try to sexually harass Ms. Mickey as much as possible she seems to like it Well, until she sues you. We had a scam guy show up at the door here the other day. Of course we've never really lived in an actual house on the street and so this white pickup truck known as The Texas Cadillac

12:26 pulls up and guy jumps out. And immediately, you know I'm like okay scam i can feel it you know hey you know uh just uh i just started this new company It's a capital meats and have you ever heard of the meat guys? The Meat Guys! Have you heard of this scam?! They came by here once and that in their pride And I started talking to him for a while they kept trying to end it by the way the meat looks like was frozen and cut with a buzzsaw but Frozen The worst looking meat, I've ever seen so these meet guys show up with all we're there's this where this tell me. I'm not Getting this the same way you got it

13:03 Okay. Oh, we were in the neighborhood with one of our customers and they bought some meat from us so we don't have any more chicken but... But we've got some leftover meat A whole box and it's frozen So we're offering it to locals And you know I said well what's the price? And then I tell them that for example We just bought and this is the throw this at him They rush down the stairs and scurry off to the next place We just bought a a part of a steer or I think we bought the whole thing for $1.00 a pound, which would be about 1.50 after butchering right for the whole thing you know that's so it averages is $1.00 per pound these guys are selling for 10 and I'm telling him I say you know we're getting our stuff off the hoof for uh... in the countryside from vendors that sell direct for most we pay is 2.50

13:59 250 a pound for everything. Why are you selling? Why what's this big deal this great bargain You've got here for ten dollars a pound which is really high I like that we're using the argument that because it's special they can charge more That's bullcrap if you're selling stuff to write, you know full steers your selling You're not selling it for more money unless of the buyers an idiot I liked our guy who's like so what will it take for me to get this into your freezer today my Yes, I'd like to have a sham Wow in your truck as well what's going on dude use car dealer Exactly and he had you know ended then the typical telltale sign. He had his arms crossed You know it was like yeah Like big body language so I just called the guys bluffs and get your meat bring it over here I had him unpacked the whole thing had him show me everything is no nah man. Oh

14:48 Show me your pamphlet. Oh, we just ran out of pamphlets. Oh okay I Just kept hanging him you know this could be like contaminated beef Who knows it didn't look all that healthy and look kind of blackened actually wasn't yeah? It's probably something somebody left You know something bad happened to that meat yeah hey We got a figure out your router i mean you're okay but it's not great well maybe somebody's downloading something So um I think occupy wall street is uh is very entertaining and interesting with all the things that happened over the past couple of days. We have the big pepper spray incident at, wasn't that in your neck of the woods? It was in Davis which is up north from me. Yeah great video we'll have it on the site this video and there's a good article in Atlantic written by Fallows who was apparently very upset by watching this video

15:49 You had a group of students, about 20 students that locked arms and blocked a small walkway in the middle of a huge green area where they're very easy to walk around. And so the cops told them to move and they said we will not be moved. cop with a huge can of the worst looking pepper spray, looked like a can of paint when it was coming out. Just walked along in front of each one of them and just blasted them all! Like he was spray painting a car? No it's more like spraying bugs I think like spraying insects this is what they think of the public some of these...they see the public..they see their students as insects

16:30 Yeah. And they're spraying it with a can of insecticide, which was really quite amazing to me I was really like wow this is that's pretty blatant. So casual and then when the news stories start coming out they said well we were just defending ourselves yeah right what a loser It's like that bubble cop. Remember that guy? You know if that bubble touches me you're gonna be a redneck. Oh right, up in Canada wasn't it? Bubble Cop is the Canadian happened in Canada about I don't know year ago or so yeah and now everybody started you know moaning you know mocking the guy the guy lost his job and he got shamed into having to leave town and go someplace else and was moaning about it He deserved that

17:12 You know, I gotta figure out these people. I mean this cop who casually blasted all these guys hospitalizing a few of them he needs to be called out and then the chancellor of the university some woman who's an engineer Who is now asking for a 90 day? She's gonna wish you well where you have to do a study into a report back in ninety days She should be fired The University of California needs to get its act together This is abhorrent Hey John, is it possible that your mic is out of phase or something? No. Nothing's changed. What do I- did my little rant not come through? No you're coming through but you sound like um... Like you're talking out of your anal cavity It really doesn't sound right. I don't know what it is Huh

18:00 The only thing I could possibly... it would have to be the... Could it be your anal cavity? Or... Adam! Could it be your preamp or something is hosed, I mean its... I'm using a dynamic mic. You've changed microphones? No, this is the same mic I always use. It's the PR-40 But do you have your preamp installed? There's no preamp for a PR-40. You go right through the D to A converter into the machine Yeah well it sounds like crap! I'm just telling ya...it doesn't sound right Why it sounds like crap is probably your side No, I don't think so You sound perfect! Yeah because I'M PERFECT

18:41 Let me see, uh... let me see if something changed over here. Did you get an update on Skype or something? Nope! No? No update on Skype? Lemme see... Nah I haven't changed anything man It's very annoying. I mean you literally sound- And we have all the other machines are off And that's not it. It's uh, it's something else I think its this well I could reboot this machine! I don't think its the machine... Well, it could be the machine. That seems unlikely. It sounds- really? Because I had to crank your volume way up? It sounds like you're Like something is wrong with your Skype Do you want a reboot skype? Uhh..I can do that and I dont'think thats gonna do the trick But ill try

19:30 We gotta do something because this is... It's driving you nuts. Well, I mean the whole chat room is also saying that- Hey! The Vorak sounds like crap Yeah! Like you're talking through a kazoo Alright, I'll pause the recording for a second and then uh... And you go- Uh, I could try a different mic maybe this- That mic's connected right? Oh that's cool My mic is blowing out Yeah, y'know what just disconnect and connect to new mic live That's always a cool sound Well, I'm sorry what? Disconnect your mic and then put a new one on live. That's always... No that's not good that's a condenser go into there and there's a package on the shelf in a black little pouch it's sitting right in front of you so it's about eye level This ladies and gentlemen is the DeWareck compound bus kill bunker at work There was a black pouch to your left Between your legs the black pouch

20:26 Grab the pouch. I have to go get it Hey, man, have you just trained those kids properly? Don't they know how to get a pouch Oh man. Well, we'll do the Gitmo Nation National Anthem while John is doing that. Hold on here we go. Ladies and gentlemen please rise for your Gitmo Nation National Anthem! And you may sing along if you wish. In the morning Gitmo nation We are all charged up to be Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea From the east to west, down under to The lowlands and beyond We are happy and distracted slaves

21:18 Okay, tell me how I sound on this. This is a President Obama's mic. Sounds better! It sounds better? Now you sound a little over modulated Give me give me a little level testing one two three four five six it's louder hold on let me turn my side down the 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 One two three four five six seven eight. Hello everybody! Hello everybody! Nine eight seven six five four three two one yeah this is a SM whatever that... Yeah everyone thinks it sounds worse

21:57 Sounds worse. Yeah, is that the sure sm7? Yeah 76 or whatever as when Obama you piece of crap no no It's a piece of crap Obama sounds so good with this mic all right well You want to use this one or do you want to switch back the other one I don't care This one sounds a little cleaner and a little less dynamics in it But am we gonna move we got a show to do man John just disconnected mid-sentence Hello I'm back yeah alright who knows Hello yes testing okay, yeah sounds crap. That's all right We'll fix it after the show you're audible You can't fix it after the show well no we can't fix the show It just this one sounds it sounds like it's blown up really well The other mic sounded bad will maybe my M audio device is gone I don't think so something has broken let me see what we got here really? I'm gonna pause now. I'm going to unplug and replug in the USB connection

23:01 And you're plugged in again. Okay, enough of that we'll have to figure it out It's been better anyway Back to the show John We're good Hello hello Yeah sorry hello back to the show we were talking about Occupy Wall Street The little program yeah You know the best podcast in the universe ah the best podcasts in university what about it? Yeah So we're talking about occupy wall street now stop talking about the Occupy movement and a lot of this seems to be you know so this pepper spray thing at UC Davis right? This is all set up I mean the whole first

23:43 You know, we've already identified that there's like you know agent provocateurs amongst them and it's you know they even come out and say it. Was it when they cleared out Zuccotti Park? Yeah! They had hundreds of private security contractors It wasn't just cops. Apparently there's some consulting group that's behind a lot of this too Yeah, you think? A nice little consulting gig They probably come out of Blackwater yeah or something like that and then and this little diddy showed up on the BBC where of course stupid guys in America I think no it's England No one is going to be listening to this Little do they know that the New Agenda Army is all over this

24:29 Listen to what he says about the arrests made in New York. a number of arrests at the base of the bridge, but these were actually pre-arranged with the police department by demonstrators who wanted to show kind of symbolic arrest of 99 people. But actually there are only 65 ended up being arrested so that was done in sort of negotiations with it. Okay who do they talk about that? Ah, the negotiators. The negotiators! Like hey you know we'll sit here and then you just come and arrest us And uh... We want to be 99 of us But I guess they couldn't get their quota That tells you right there that this thing is rigged Well that's assuming that this guy isn't just some phony He was like a... I can tell who he was It was like some police muckety-muck No he wasn't a phony Well I mean I don't think he was a phoney Uh let me see what was his... Deputy Commissioner of Public Information

25:32 Paul Brown. That seems like a real dude. Public information for who? For the New York City Police Department. Paul Brown? Yeah, with an E at the end. Paul Brown with an E on the end well that's easy enough to look up. B-R-O-W-N-E Deputy Commissioner of Public Information for the New York Police Department. There's a little tagline here while you're looking that up. Told us where they were going to sit, wanted it to be observed and then they were arrested without any kind of resistance that we've seen in some of the early arrests more classic civil disobedience than you would associate with the Civil Rights Movement in the United States I don't think the Civil Rights Movement got arrested through negotiation. I do not recall that

26:20 Wow. That's bogus! Yeah, this guy is a real guy if that was him. Wait a minute... Is that the definition of bogative? Bogative?! Yeah this guy would be bogative. He was totally bogative. No no the whole episode would be bogative. Okay he would- Bogative meaning false but bogus is false but not necessarily negative Negative would be bogative, negative false, bogative I don't understand how to use the word. I tried it yesterday It's not working out. It's bogative It's, uh... it's you have to remember O'Reilly actually invented this word by trying to say bogus and negative at the same time. Okay And he couldn't figure out which one to say and he said bogative Right so was this guy is bogative? Well I think that I don't think the guys bogative if he's not but he's a real person i think the whole scene is Bogadil okay all right

27:12 Soon this will are we already in the urban dictionary with bogota yet now We're still got to get a good Good definition because I've gotten a couple of debates with people who seem to want. I don't know what they're looking forward to make it I mean, I know what it means Hello hello Urban Dictionary ladies and gentlemen here it is bogative When many things are bogus they group together or plural is bogative. Oh, that's not right! Even worse it says Bill O'Reilly stated there were bogative reviews of his new book hello this is not okay this is not the correct definition nor is it the correct attribution No course not I'm doing thumbs down thumbs down

27:53 Yeah, I wish to go the Urban Dictionary and change it. Thumbs down! It's a combination of the words bogus and negative Can you change that? Like Wikipedia can't change the urban dictionary? How do...I have no idea how that's done This is bad We have a few of them from the blog they got in there like embiggen Yeah well embiggen is good I get that one Bogative is anyway it's not right Not plural bogas And its' not right So I've been tracking this the second mile thing as I promised. And it's been very, very hard because we've been unpacking 342 boxes of what turns out to be crap! It's amazing how that works you move and you're like hey what's this? Oh that's just a box of crap and then the only definition is is it my crap or your crap? It's amazing how much crap one accumulates. It's crazy so um...I got a uh...an interesting note from someone who doesn't want to be named

29:52 So I got a couple anonymous notes. I got one, the guy who sent you the CIA coin sent a couple more CIA coins because he was moaning. Yeah that's nice And of course he doesn't say who he is but these are the newer coins so mine has Panetta on the back and you have... Yeah no the Panetta coins are all now rare Right right and then out of the blue somebody else sent one The guy will go he says i'll go by the name Don Solaris I'll call you John Curry or Adam Dvorak. That would be me and then he right He sent the coin that he got from the CIA shop through a remailer And then he but you guys know Did he said even say who he is obviously and then the key? I think that was interesting was to send a

30:42 Well, you can't identify somebody's handwriting. You write the address in block letters. Didn't he cut it out of a newspaper? Isn't that the way you're supposed to do it? Well, the blocked letters seem to probably be pretty effective because like if you've got a ruler and just write with blocks... But I think, you know who knows. But anyway he gave a... He sent another CIA challenge coin only one and this one's interesting because it's essentially the same both sides are identical so it's not a coin that you can flip for heads or tails Oh sounds like standard issue with the CIA let me see Who do we drone? Heads we drone tails we don't oh boy I'm so sorry yeah now We have to drone you

31:26 It's a trick coin. So did he send you a clip of something or just this is just the coins that he sent Just a coin. No, that's pretty cool outrageous anyway, so We do get some stuff in the mail, but we didn't get a lot in the mail or over the PayPal. Yeah no we didn't this was... Unfortunately and uh... Well we kind of expected that to happen it being you know this is Thanksgiving week when everyone is traveling and United States of Gitmo Nation by far still our top donating country although we have a lot of donors from down under in Australia Oh oh speaking about Australia before we get to thanking our producers Did you watch too?

32:09 Did I watch what? Oh, I guess not. What did you watch? Australian Parliament. No I didn't, no no what happened? Oh it's weird! I have a couple clips we'll play after the donation or after we thank our executive producers but it's like...it's just hilarious and I'll explain in a minute well what I was gonna say is that you know this rotational deployment thing that we talked about we even named the title of the last show was about rotational deployment this is our our Marines and naval ships and aircraft carriers, and God knows what else all being stationed now in Australia. And I got a couple of notes some of them were tweets that basically said rotational deployment equals vacation

32:55 The one I trust the most actually is from Atomic Rod Adams. He says, it's a term that Marines use when they're not going to station marines in a place long enough to move their families to live there. Typically the military uses permanent change of station orders when members will be in a single location for at least two years. That's not what this is less than that is covered by temporary additional duty TAD The army calls them TDY orders, temporary duty yonder. Family moves are not provided in TAD situations there's several reasons why rotational deployment are used but in this case it is probably a financial issue moving families to Australia would be popular for the individual Marines but it would be darn expensive for the taxpayers But I think...I like the basic vacation

33:42 Idea the most so I think instead of sending our troops home you get rotational deployment To Australia get to hang out there. You know drink some beers Oh, it's like something from a Star Trek episode where they have these strange bases and these weird planets that are nothing more than vacation spots. Yeah, with that bar with all the weirdos at it Well that's Star Wars Oh sorry So anyway yeah That's a possibility They're just turning out to so the deal is Hey you Aussies what were gonna do is set up a base But it's not, don't worry about it. What is really this a place to drop our guys off so they can take a cheap vacation and they'll be spending their money there and they won't be bothering anybody because God knows 2500 drunk marines never get into trouble with anyone I think the hooker population in Australia just got more interesting Especially around Perth

34:37 So, uh... No they're in Darwin I think. So you remember what President Obama said when he was in Australia right? The United States of America has no stronger ally than Australia. So a little bit research brings us to the following statements from El Presidente The United States has no closer ally and no stronger partner than Great Britain. The United States has no closer partner than Europe We don't have a stronger friend and a stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the French people. The Republic of Korea is one of our strongest allies. The United States and Canada are not simply allies

35:25 not simply neighbors. We are woven together like perhaps no other two countries in the world." Sounds like he friends everybody on Facebook, doesn't it? This reminds me of the medley that was done of one of the authors I forgot which one but they somebody decided to do this some author and a book tour Yeah, and you know every town. Oh I love Cleveland You know it's my favorite town well if you listen to Obama he does that too He always says it's great to be back in fill-in the blank He does the same thing you can do this with this guy all the time It's always is great And I see some of our the great senators are here make congressman It's always the same thing and they're always in the house by the way like Is it like you know? He still stuck in the days of Arsenio Hall yeah congressmen is in the house

36:16 Idiot does he say in the house all the time all the time in the house our city in the hot Remember Arsenio. Oh, yeah most people listen to show are too young to remember Arsenio has been so long no Cineo alright Let's thank some of our producers because some people did Luckily check-in to help us out So that I can at least afford well we only have three executive producers that came in and then we don't have no associate executive producers and very few donors you have a few will talk about later This is just a bad, not particularly good show for getting anybody to help us. But we do have three want to thank including Eric Hirtha soon-to-be knighted Eric Hirth out of Coral Gables Florida I'm actually in Gitmo Nation no income taxes the Bahamas that's where he really is donation for me and hospitality business news dot com

37:04 Thanks for the show. This should put me over the top It does it does that's great great to see Victor Gonzalez or sir Victor Gonzalez actually from gitmo nation bunga bunga Which is Italy I believe. I got almost instant karma when a fellow knight pitched in what i needed to start enjoying hookers and blow, it worked! I'd love to know the backstory on that one. He just throws us in so here I am again asking for more I'm writing he needs some karma Hold on a second let's hand it out You've got karma. He's writing this on 1111 but because I can't donate the customary, I'm going for the cheaper binary version converting 111 to 333 which i hope is equally adequate. Works for me. And another 333 dot three three and by the way Eric Hirst would also be a member of the 398... oh it's not 398 its 358

38:01 Michael Zelina Baron well I don't think he got a bear. Oh, he calls himself Baron Mike okay? Let's keep these titles correct Yeah, let's just call him one baron Barron Mike from Cleveland Ohio He says checking in with some lucky three three three dot 3-3 cash is attested to the no agenda karma like to request some Karma for the Cleveland Brown do we do not do Even though you're a knight We do not do because we did that for the USC team and it turned out to backfire on everyone. Wait a minute now if he wants to request karma for the football team, that should be his prerogative

38:40 Well, this sounds like we need to discuss this. He says our poor team needs all the help we can get Adam hope the new digs are good I enjoyed your one minute of Austin Okay, well do this one more time but I refuse to do this anymore. Give me Cleveland Brown's karma Is that the meeting? Does this conclude the meeting? We'll put that in the lobby on your side! You've got karma By the way, he says I enjoyed your one minute of Austin. That was really funny. I recorded one minute in the morning of The audio while I was sitting out on the deck here and Of course you hear nothing except a bird or two I'd say 80% of the tweets that came back were like hey man, the audios no good. I don't hear anything That's the whole point it's so nice here

39:32 It's so quiet and you don't hear the drones at all. I mean, I think they're at altitude So she made it one minute You should do one minute for all these places you go you one minute of LA would have been hilarious Oh my goodness could doing a minute of we do a minute of Oakland that'll be very entertaining gunshots sirens It's John with his one minute of Oakland everybody. Alright, we highly appreciate the support and of course We'd like you to continue to think of us as we are coming up on the fake holiday known as Thanksgiving Please go to Dvorak dot org slash N A And consider a donation there now You can also go To channel dvorak dot com slash NA and noagendanation dot com and has one PR mentioned that we haven't had a lot

40:21 PR efforts going on recently. Although I do have, and maybe we play this at the end... I've got Maynard from Australia he's been interviewing Knights which is pretty cool and he interviewed N3PO. Which it's entertaining to listen to. Maynard is a pro! Yeah, Maynard is massive pro He has got great voice I did want to mention noagenination.com slash jobs and this will be linked in the show notes at 358 dot na show notes calm From that very page the first step in any vast conspiracy is to infiltrate various organizations with your shills and puppets so Noah generation chill placement service will help you find a job the way it works as you fill out your information and know what generation comm actually goes and crawls all kinds of sites

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41:55 Shut up, slaves. There we go now good hey by the way John I should say happy National Family Week to you! Oh is it family week? Yes Does that start on today or does it star yesterday? It starts well it's starts today officially today national family week and this is by presidential proclamation And we could also, if you want to laugh, we could also talk about the Thanksgiving holiday because the President has to proclaim the holiday. Right? Did you know that? He does?! Yeah! Let me just go to whitehouse.gov The National Family Week is a part of the Home for the Holidays program that the White House has running right now

42:52 And let me just go to the briefing room, presidential actions. This is pretty funny so he has proclaimed the 24th of November as Thanksgiving Day 2011 Presidential Proclamation this paragraph will irk you One of our nation's oldest and most cherished traditions, Thanksgiving Day brings us closer to our loved ones and invites us to reflect on the blessings that enrich our lives. The observance recalls the celebration of an autumn harvest centuries ago when the Wampanoag tribe joined the pilgrims at Plymouth Colony to share in the fruits of a bountiful season

43:34 The feast honored the Wampanoag for generously extending their knowledge of local game and agriculture to the Pilgrims. And today we renew our gratitude to all American Indians and Alaska Natives. They're adding to this bullcrap story! We take this time to remember the ways that the first Americans have enriched our nation's heritage after we pooped on them from their generosity centuries ago to the everyday contributions they make to all facets of American life. As we come together with friends, family and neighbors to celebrate let us set aside our daily concerns and give thanks for the providence bestowed upon us as we all live the American dream of just getting by." Okay I made that one up...that last bit So yeah do you want to tell us the true story? Well i was going to save it for The Thanksgiving Show Okay well this will be a teaser then

44:28 Yeah, it's bullcrap. Thanksgiving was a... generally speaking after some war battle the president would declare that we'd have a day of thanksgiving for the soldiers and the current Thanksgiving that were dealing with actually began in the 1860s and it was a proclamation by Lincoln to thank its soldiers that fought in the Civil War and that was a day of Thanksgiving. And then somewhere along the line somebody dreamed up this cock-and-bull story about the pilgrims and the Indians, and then now people complain about it like that woman we had the clip from last week. Well here he says though our traditions have evolved

45:07 The spirit of grace and humility at the heart of Thanksgiving has persisted through every chapter of our story. When President George Washington proclaimed our country's first Thanksgiving, he praised a generous and knowing God for shepherding our young republic through its uncertain beginnings." That doesn't sound right. Decade... No that's not even..that's another book because actually there were earlier harvest festivals and Thanksgiving's that predated Washington so that's not even right. Decades later President- This is bull, this is the you know what? This is associative Obama and his boys think look we'll associate ourselves with Washington they'll love us if we do that

45:47 Decades later, President Abraham Lincoln looked to the divine to protect those who had known the worst of civil war and restore the nation to quote, to the full enjoyment of peace harmony tranquility and union. Well, I think that's probably accurate. Okay? So that's the one line then it's accurate Oh you got to throw something in there Oh, oh I see today let us offer gratitude to our men and women in uniform for their many sacrifices Oh now It's about now this has become a war holiday Great this is great and then he does something else really good shoot of turkey yeah, hey

46:30 In witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand this 16th day of November in the year of our Lord 2011 and this is new. And of the independence of the United States of America the 236th What are we counting down or something? Until it's over That's weird. That's weird Anyway Bogative Well, I do have a kind of...I don't know maybe this is kind of family-oriented clip of some sort. This should've been run on the last show but i do have the clip describing and just see if you can find one bogus or bogative assertion after another. This is a guy, a newspaper guy describing to Democracy Now!

47:25 Let's see what the name of this clip is. Idiot shooting at the White House, you know that guy took a driving along just listen to this story the way it's described and tell me this doesn't sound like I just set up bullcrap story? I mean for one thing they didn't you know we talked about this guy little bit last show The guy was is now charged with trying to assassinate the president the president was in Australia Yeah well It was a long shot It was a lot, what is he gonna shoot in the air hoping to maybe the trade winds catch the bullet? I mean... What is this bull crap but play this little clip how it developed well so we know that gunfire was heard a little after 9 p.m On Friday, of course the federal holiday the Obamas were out of town although We don't know if their daughters were in the White House daughters Is this how he pronounced daughters on democracy now dotas? It's interesting about listen He says that did the Secret Service won't say whether the daughter's been has This says to me that this whole thing was just a scam and the daughters were actually removed from the place

48:24 if they were there, I don't know why they left him home alone when they're in Australia but it's possible. To get them out of there because that you know just in case this guy gets lucky, you know this phony... But anyway finish. ...were in the White House at the time and the Secret Service won't say what the complaint made clear was that there were several witnesses who saw this dark Honda Accord pull up on Constitution Avenue in front of the White House and gunshots were fired out of its passenger side window. We have the person who was in the car behind it said this, and someone who was on the street also said they saw this happen, and the car sped off. And then a few minutes later about six blocks away that the driver of the car abandoned it on the lawn of the National Institute of Peace right by the bridge to the Potomac River

49:10 And inside this car, authorities found a semi-automatic rifle. Nine spent shell casings lots of other ammunition brass knuckles baseball bat a Walmart receipt I'm gonna go assassinate the president with my baseball bat and a Walmart receipt I bought it at Walmart. And a jacket that had LA written on it in the form of the Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team logo and it turned out this car had was, had a license plate from Idaho they were able to link it to Mr. Ortega Hernandez and indeed he'd been photographed twice earlier on Friday wearing that jacket once as you mentioned earlier when the Arlington County Police stopped him and then let him go because he done nothing committed no crime at that point and was unarmed but they did take his pictures

49:58 And also they went to a Walmart and found a surveillance tape of him wearing that jacket. Don't wear a Dodgers jacket! This is the message here, don't wear the Dodgers jacket. Did you hear this story? Well first of all I thought it was an AK-47 that is by no means semi automatic That's a full automatic weapon But whatever it was, first let's take a look at this. The guy drives up to the street takes a couple of shots out the window boom-boom three... It's DC duh that happens all the time just not on Pennsylvania Avenue So he keeps driving and then for some unknown reason abandons his car in front of the Institute of Peace With his Walmart receipt

50:42 a bunch which gave him the opportunity to find it. Did he leave his CIA challenge coin in the car? That's the question. And then left a baseball bat and brass knuckles, I mean come on what is this a 1930s movie I thought you were gonna do, let's put some brass knuckles in here. Yeah we'll go mess him up And then he got... but and then it coincidentally earlier in the day he was arrested or no pulled over for something but he did nothing wrong But they took his picture anyway. Coincidence? I think not! And then they took his picture at the Walmart for some unknown reason Give me a break It's now.. The only problem is

51:23 That he wasn't white. This is the only thing that went wrong because you know we know that... When I saw his picture, I thought he was white! It looked like it's some sort of extreme white survivalist type or something So two theories that are- thank you darling The two theories that i've been hearing about is one and its like a fast and furious uh... Like the Mexican gangs are out to get him So that was pretty funny. Oh yeah, good. Yeah they're so...so they're shooting at the White House while the president's in Australia? That makes sense! Well we didn't say they were smart gangs you know and then the other one is this is a part of the racial tension that we're supposed to be ramping up against the president which is predicted and as in The Red Book even

52:06 But it didn't quite fit in with this guy being a Spanish. This was a poorly operate...this operationally if this was done under, I mean whatever it was, I mean It actually makes the whole thing none of it makes any sense. This is just a botched something by someone Right And dumb One of the most emailed clips I'm sure you got a copy of it and you might even posted on your blog there your little blog thingy Is Nigel Farage

52:46 Oh, I love this Nigel Farage clip. Yeah this is in fact he kind of corroborates everything that we've been saying about the global banker takeover of Europe We have the shill going into Greece who got the shill going into Italy both have Goldman Sachs ties and there's an actually there's a an interesting follow-on to that which I'll get you right after we listen to Sir Nigel who people UK don't like I don't understand this. I don't understand people who, I read blogs and people who i really respect and like you know for their opinion... People don't like him! I don't understand why? Maybe it's rigged maybe they maybe the public likes him in some people are paid not to like them to make it seem as though no one likes them because I don't see anyone any reason very British he seems like he's gotten the right side of the argument I why would people dislike him

53:35 Don't know but it's the UK Independent Party that people maybe don't like UK IP, but you know But even people who don't like him are thinking this is a pretty good rant He went on well here. We are on the edge of a financial and social disaster And in the room today we have before men who were supposed to be responsible and yet we've listened to the dullest, most technocratic speeches I've ever heard. You are all in denial by any objective measure the euro is a failure And who is actually responsible? Who's in charge out of you lot? Well of course the answer is none of you because none of you have been elected None of you actually have any democratic legitimacy for the roles that you currently hold within this crisis and into this vacuum albeit reluctantly has stepped Angela Merkel

54:25 And we are now living in a German dominated Europe. Where have I heard that before? Did that ever happen in history, John? Could you look up in the book of knowledge if- Let me check it. I don't know if Germany has ever dominated Europe in the past... could this be one of those fractal thingies you speak of all the time? Something that the European project was actually supposed to stop! Something that those who went before us actually paid a heavy price in blood to prevent I don't want to live in a German dominated Europe and nor do the citizens of Europe. By the way, while they're doing this the camera keeps cutting to that German douchebag... What's his name again? Yeah that guy, I dunno his name but he is laughing. Yeah he's like, blahblahblahblah This is you shwine! You are not your swine! You will be the first one whose testicles we cut off! You will be in ze prison! You will be in de camp! Get there have a train ride for you Nigel

55:18 But you guys have played a role, because when Mr Papandreou got up and used the word referendum or Mr Wren, you described it as a breach of confidence. And your friends here got together like a pack of hyenas rounded on Papandreou had him removed and replaced by a puppet government. What an absolutely disgusting spectacle that was! And not satisfied with that, you decided Berlusconi had to go? So he was removed and replaced by Mr Monty, a former European Commissioner, a fellow architect of this Euro disaster, and a man who wasn't even a member of the Parliament." Then here comes the best line... "...it's getting like an Agatha Christie novel!"

55:59 where we're trying to sort of work out who's the next person that's going to be bumped off. The difference is, we know who the villains are." I hope he checks under his car before he gets into it. You should all be held accountable for what you've done! You should all be fired and I have to say, Mr Van Rompuy 18 months ago when we first met and i was wrong about you. I said you'd be the quiet assassin of nation-state democracy but you're not anymore You are rather noisy about it aren't you? You an unelected man went to Italy and said this is not the time for elections but the time for actions What in God's name gives you the right to say that to the Italian people

56:47 Well, because he's haiku Herman and his face is priceless that guy. He doesn't take criticism very well He just sits ago He's writing haikus Maybe did we talk about the fact that Herman kind of got this job from? From the back of a cereal box from meeting at the Builder burgers I didn't know that actually. Aha! Oh, yeah a month before he was chosen as the head of the EU. That's right i do remember that right? He was at the Bilderbergers meeting and it was a special meeting It wasn't their normal drinking club meeting this is like a meeting to show off this guy Right They brought him in front of the whole group and he gave a speech about the future of Europe and the future of the world and the future world governance

57:38 Right and they said hey, that's good. Yeah, it's good Don't we have an opening somewhere? Yeah, yeah president okay Well there's something else very interesting how like the cut of your jib ooh That's a nice one you remember the that guy Rajat Gupta the guy who got arrested for insider trading right oh So now he got sentenced like what 10 years or 14 years or something He's going oh, he's gone to the big house. But he still an appeal and his lawyers have now subpoenaed Gary Cohn And what's the other guy lube both are the Goldman Sachs guys? uh-huh, and Here's what's interesting about it is that Cohen was the guy who actually

58:34 Did all the deals for Greece? No, although all the Goldman Sachs hiding the losses to you know He showed him how to do it. And now this is not the SEC or you know, or the You know any other feds, you know This is like a this is a court case and now these lawyers are subpoenaing subpoenaing so Pena Amy in these guys and and I think it could you know, this is Not just an attack. Well, it's an attack on Goldman Sachs But this could be very big because you know not unlike when the SEC does something is like yeah You know oh you didn't do it Okay Go back home now these guys are actually gonna have to testify and I think this Gupta guy either He was a shill or somehow he's just well, he's going to the big house So he's probably really pissed off but I think we can see some sparks coming up pretty soon And got my eye on this one. I like it

59:27 Because when people really understand that Goldman Sachs were the guys who screwed Greece and then went right back around, and now we've got a Goldman Sachs guy there running the place. Do you think people will get it? No! Yeah I don't know man...I gotta say the Greeks... Here listen to this This is from Euronews The only outfit that actually reports on Greece Greece's new national unity government has presented its 2012 budget plan to Parliament. Now what do you think the budget plan is? How much do we have to cut and everything, there is nothing left to cut right? The cheese is so thin... Yeah they got nothing What do you think they are going to cut now for 2012 Probably half a trillion I mean percentage wise Oh it's ludicrous like 25% or something like that

1:00:23 It aims to cut the country's deficit by more than a third from this year's level to 5.4% of GDP. Not only is it the magic number 33 and 1 3rd, are you kidding me? Technocrat Prime Minister Lucas Papademos is now leading Greek efforts to avoid bankruptcy and in a worst case scenario a possible exit from the Euro His finance minister says Athens won't need to pass any new austerity measures next year if reforms that have already been approved are put in place. Anti-austerity activists joined thousands in the capital on Thursday. I love that term by the way, anti-austerity activists! There's nothing like a little bit of alliteration for you

1:01:12 It's the AAA club, anti-austerity activists. Instead of saying really pissed off slaves. To mark the anniversary of a 1973 student uprising that helped bring down Greece's military dictatorship While many marched peacefully, police clashed with stone-throwing youths in the first... Stone throwing! John those blasted stone throwing youths. Please get those anti austerity activists stone throwing youths out of my way. ...test for the new crisis coalition

1:01:53 The clashes came just one day after the government cleared its first hurdle by overwhelmingly winning a vote of confidence. Oh, I love it! And it's gonna happen here? What are we now four days away from the super committee having to vote on our own... Well, we're not calling them austerity measures here We're just calling in Super Committee thing The Super Committee report if we actually called that what it is here Then we'd have stone throwing youths out on the street And I guess they're not gonna figure it out in the next four days and then we have like an automatic austerity measures, right? Yeah well that turns out...I was watching one of these clip shows where they try to

1:02:39 disprove what everyone says is true. Apparently the Senate can like say, you know we're supposed to do this but we're not gonna really do it. This is like bullcrap! This whole thing...this threat of cutting the military budget and the rest of it may be bogative. No, the military budget is increasing. It's not decreasing. It's increasing I saw the report were going over 600 billion dollars for 2012 Yeah, that's the only way you make any money anymore is work for the military. Yeah now I met the we haven't really done a lot of Austin Research yet because we've just been so busy unpacking everything Our landlord by the way is so he like hey man that shows pretty good He's listening all right, so I got to be careful what I say but he's uh he's he's like in a startup and

1:03:32 some software startup and they're doing like military grade stuff, and everyone here is working for the military as well. It's where all the money is. Right What are we doing wrong? We're not working for the military Yeah... We should just quit this show and go work for the military! We should get a consulting group together And just live off of the government tit That's funny Let the taxpayers pick up our salaries Oh that would be so nice wouldn't it There was a report that came out and I haven't quite figured out the report but it's definitely, uh... Definitely a case of, uh... Apparently Gallup has gotten together with some other company. They've combined? What was the name of that other company anyway they determined

1:04:33 that the amount of money that an American human resource needs to make on average to be happy is $75,000 a year. That's what they've determined. Who determined this? Gallup and this National Health... it's like they do research for pharmaceutical companies It was very very sketchy But it's a... I'm trying to find, but can't find it right off hand. But really like, really? Yeah here is.

1:05:12 Gallup Healthways Well-Being Index better known as GHWBI a daily well being survey that queries 1,000 respondents whoo two scientists from Princeton University say happiness is based on life evaluation and well being So there's some good. There's obviously an angle in this Survey there's a reason for it the reason why they're why they're publishing this I haven't figured it out yet But anyway, the number is $75,000. That's the magic number for... And that's pretty much I mean where is that on the scale? Is that middle class? $75,000? Well in today's inflated numbers I suppose it is Yeah What's the average income in the USA let me just consult The Book of Knowledge Consult The Book Of Knowledge

1:06:10 The whole thing was kind of weird, but it's done by scientists. That's the most important thing Countless studies have examined the relationship between income and happiness, but now scientists... The science is in! ...has pinpointed the exact amount of money you need to be happy. The magic number $75,000 In 2006 the real adjusted for inflation median annual household hold income was 50,233 According to the census, the real median earnings of men who worked full-time year round climbed between 2006 and 2007 from $43,000 to 45,000. Oh interesting! Here's the conclusion... So next time you hear the phrase money can't buy you happiness remember it actually can. There is something up with this. Somethings Up

1:07:08 Yeah, I need more time. These things don't crop up for no good reason No they never do and of course we've had that email that's being passed around from the Wall Street lobbying firm you saw this Sir sir Daniel sent us this yeah and And what's nice about it? You know so basically it's like you know we're gonna go Here's what you do to go bash the Occupy Wall Street movement, to prevent Republican gains in Congress and the White House next year. But the cool thing about it is they're actually... It's a pitch is what this is. This is from Clark Little Gelbdigg and Cranford

1:07:52 sent to the American Bankers Association subject proposal Occupy Wall Street response and they literally have in here. So, here's what we're going to do. The cornerstone elements of a plan include survey research and messaging testing opposition research targeted social media monitoring coalition planning and advertising creative and placement strategy development So they've got all these, and John we could so do this by the way because you know that this whole proposal is bogative. You know they're going to do targeted social media monitoring here it is The transparency of social media platforms offers an excellent opportunity to anticipate future Occupy Wall Street tactics and messaging as well as identify extreme language and ideas that put its most ardent supporters at odds with mainstream Americans really

1:08:44 These platforms may not be a place where engaging Occupy Wall Street supporters directly could be successful, but with sophisticated monitoring and analytical tactics it could provide exceptional political intelligence. Here's the deliverable according to our pitch We will conduct and report on an audit of most active social media platforms used by OWS with the identification of trends in their engagement That's a great sentence. This audit will offer analysis of those trends and identify effective reporting tools to develop actionable intelligence that could be rapidly acted on when the campaign becomes fully operational." So, that is a bunch of bull crap that basically says we're going to go look at Twitter trends and we'll write it down for you

1:09:31 Cuz you're too stupid pricing this initial effort to develop the cornerstone elements of a strategic campaign is achievable within 60 days and Would best provide you with a range of effective response options if the move to adopt? OWS continues on its current path. The cost of these deliverables identified above is eight hundred and fifty dollars Eight hundred fifty thousand dollar I'm sorry thousand in the punchline the punch line. Yeah, I fucked it up 60 days though, $850,000. 60 days to write down some Twitter trends Yeah What else? We can do this It would be packaged nicely Probably printed on a good printer Oh yeah binder With a nice font And a powerpoint to go with it We'll produce a report I love this we will produce a report identifying traditional and non-traditional allies intellectual support and politically important economic footprints My God!

1:10:31 Is this what business is? Yeah. It's such bullcrap! It's like advertising, or whatever you want to call it. Opposition research... Really?! Yeah we gotta get on the stick here Our polling plan would produce a national survey of 1,000 voters to serve as our benchmark. Give us national context for our state by state efforts. Hire some little company to talk to 1000 people. Quick survey? That's bullcrap! I did pick up kind of clip that relates this a little bit... By the way this report is in the show notes. Democracy Now had

1:11:13 They talked about Occupy Los Angeles, which is like a joke. And they put on...they could only get two people to say anything, a phony and a dingbat and the thing that's interesting is that as Occupy Wall Street kind of shifted gears it became kind of something in itself instead of a front for Obama you know? It's now students complaining about their student loans, the hikes in tuition which was what was going on at Davis and at Cal Berkeley, and on kind of local issues that are in the corruption in media and all this sort of thing. But listen to what this... The democracy now has to push this internationalist agenda that we're all one world and we need one-world governance and you know we're all together kinda thing which is where this clip comes in so they find some phony guy to go on about that and then they can't come up with anybody else so they get got some dingbat chick to come on as she says something. Most important question?

1:12:10 No. She's not hot? Oh, of course not In Los Angeles at least 73 people were arrested in a series of actions beginning with the march through the downtown financial district where demonstrators held hands and formed a circle around a busy intersection Let's all hold hands and tell a secret fucking traffic I'm here because it's solidarity with all the movements worldwide from Egypt, Spain Syria Wall Street. We're all here to change the world to make it equal for everybody on this planet You know when you compare the footage of Occupy Wall Street or wherever you want to compete and you look at Greece

1:12:59 There's no comparison. And by the way, no mention of Tariq Square where people are getting shot and killed, violence breaking out there. Groovy worked out well for you. Yeah it worked out well front page today is New York Times top story violence in Cairo pits thousands against police anger at military rule Yeah. It's clashed in Egypt since the uprising. Yes, that is what they wanted right? And now you can take a look at these photos and pictures and this is the front page story with the big photo which means The New York Times is now drawing attention to it Right There was some major riots but its interesting because these guys are pulling some guy into safety These guys who are doing the pulling are all wearing exact same kind of quasi uniform black T-shirts They actually look like

1:13:50 It looks like five or six Ron Blooms actually that are carrying this guy. Speaking of t-shirts, have you been to the Barack Obama store? No You should go to store dot barackobama dot com and you can wipe this one off the little prediction list there if you scroll down Bad request Oh, never mind. I got barack dot com store dot Barack Obama dot com rock Barack obama calm and See it's not at the home page hold on a second It's to see which pages on i have the direct link they're now selling we can't wait t-shirts what could they wait for For congress to act aren't you on board with the program dude? We can't wait let me see if i could find a page number for ya i got the old store

1:14:48 It came up old store. Really? It's an old store? Yeah, I'm on Old Store and it's got women's fleece at 2012 as much of 2012 stuff if you go to um store dot Barack Obama button combo you get two Biden buttons for five bucks is a we can't wait Kick off the next 12 months of organizing with this American-made t-shirt. Oh, okay. What is all this Joe Biden stuff they got? A cup of Joe Cup! It's a whole Biden cup With O'Biden's picture on the mug and it just says Cup of Joe. I need one of those! Yeah, you do. Cup o'Joe... Obama 2012 there is a bunch of Biden stuff as though it's like well if we don't run more so Biden would be running not Hillary Clinton from the looks at this old store No Hillary Clinton is not going to run You know who have my money on? Well she might be vice president with O'Biden

1:15:48 Obama had a interesting teleprompter fail on his weekly YouTube thingy, his little show. He was coming in from Indonesia and they brought the green screen and everything so they set him all up How do you pronounce the Russian president's name? I have to look at it to pronounce it. Medvedev? Yeah, Medvedev. Medvedev. If you're talking to this guy and you've had a conversation with him... You'd probably want to pronounce his name right but the guy is so... Our president is such a prompter whore

1:16:28 That he can't even, just like, I gotta do this frickin' YouTube thing. Alright. Medvedev? What?! Medvedev! Medvedev? Yeah, apparently there's a new president over there. President Medvedev. President Medvedev. Medvedev! Medvedev... Come on man you're talking to this guy aren't you or is that the other Obama who talks to him I also worked with President Medvedev Medvedev it's medvedev not medvediv So i found the page that has got the we can't wait T-shirts yeah There's a lot of stuff in this store It's awesome Add To Cart $30 hello

1:17:16 What are we selling our t-shirts for? We got to be on par with this stuff. But I love how it says kick off the next 12 months of organizing with this American made T-shirt and kick off It's pretty hot. I'm looking at the accessories now you can get apparently it looks like a barbecue you can get an apron look at the clothing page for a second yeah i did and look at the girl on that page yeah she she looks good, She just showing her boobs! You don't even see your eyes is just boobs Yeah well though you looked that way you can't there's no excuse for not looking at our eyes. It was great oh we need to fired up ready to grill uh

1:17:57 Barack Obama barbecue apron. I like that, fired up ready to grill Our country is so sad. So am I! I like the glass Christmas ornaments too and there's also a bangle Look at the Rodium ball ornament What is rhodium? Is that something we steal from Afghanistan? I think it comes out of Africa Rho- ha ha ha Rhodium What is rhodium? Get a couple Obama golf balls. The only ones he hasn't used. I like the cufflinks, I might actually get those. Rhodium... Rhodium is an chemical element that is rare silvery white hard and chemically inert That sounds like our president Yeah just like Obama So uh I got something for you that's little off the wall Alrighty

1:18:56 I was actually impressed, now you know they're always looking for a use for this website Wolfram Alpha. Oh, I've never used that. You will now! No okay... You get to their search engine and type in flights overhead. Wolfram alpha what is it .com? Yeah wolframalpha.com And I do flights overhead Is overhead one word? yeah Overhead Alright. Computing! Okay, I get it

1:19:36 Continental, oh! What's overhead right now? Yeah. That's kind of cool. Continental Airlines... You can see the private planes too. I don't have any over here. Like there is a SkyWest Brazilian 120 Brasilia coming in. I can click on it and find out who is.. I can't find out who is on it but I can damn near find out. I thought that was going to get like drones or something. I thought would be really cool. I think you will get drones. They'll show up Two drones overhead. That's pretty cool I like it It's finally a use for that also the flow of this sky west is coming in from Sacramento and arriving in San Francisco at 1008 what already landed then so much for that anyway well whatever

1:20:30 I actually punched this up a while ago. I just need to type in flesh. Well, it does give me an opportunity to play and once again... Win! Lose or Drone! That's right two UK citizens come on down Abraham Adam and Anthony Garcia you now are playing the... Win! Lose Or Drone! And your dead! Yeah we're killing UK citizens now what? Oh, we droned two UK guys. We did? Yeah! They were Al-Qaeda suspects after fleeing from a control order four years ago... Actually it's Ibrahim Adam and Mohammed Khan. Huh And they were killed by an American drone Were they targeted? Yeah of course they were targeted It's awesome

1:21:26 It's awesome. Hey man, it's our game show we gotta keep it rolling Dayton that looks like is going to be the big center for unmanned aircraft Dayton Ohio As the FAA is looking into six sites across the country for test flying. It's just a test, unmanned aerial vehicles. For droning our own citizens in... In the United States On the soil of the United States Yeah so that's all hyping up yeah it's great. Nobody's complaining about it seems like you might as well see how far he can go with it People love it Bank robbers drone them You don't need a court system this way. No, well you don't waste the time We have a panel for that Don't we isn't just the panel that just call of a panel yeah And they determine your guilty and then the drones come out and blow your way It's perfect you can't get size is just Al Capone couldn't have not thought anything

1:22:18 No, the only thing that's wrong is we don't have the television rights. You know this freaking guys at Endemol are gonna get that and we're gonna be screwed again And we're gonna be sitting here going We had the jingle we had the whole game show idea and now end them all was gonna Go and take it and they're gonna have like a worldwide hit with win-lose or drone That's the only thing that were stupid about yeah, you don't get a break on these things Okay Well, I got another but well, you know if you want to change the the pacing

1:22:54 pacing here I do have an entertainment news clip from the insider which is just a teasers and kind of give us bring us up to we haven't done this for months oh so we need to get it to speed on what's really going on well hold on. And now back to realness that's right here in the knowage in the show it's time to check out what's really going on in Showbiz land The Insider is on. It's on! Demi Moore announces plans to file for divorce from Ashton, what she sang today about values and vows she holds sacred as she ends her six-year marriage was Kutcher caught by surprise his latest tweet

1:23:34 Then, Jerry Sandusky outrage. If I saw a kid getting raped in the shower, I'd punch the adult's teeth out! It is very sensitive subject Has the media already convicted the ex-Penn State coach? We try to approach it as parents You know we're all parents and our kids are watching As the mother of his adopted son comes forward... It was unnatural from the beginning Plus where is Jerry Sandusky tonight What was just delivered to his home? Do you want to go back to all this like you crawled back to hoda? Kathy Lee's live reunion with Regis today. I teared up walking out what happened when Clooney's girl met his parents

1:24:14 A movie star caught in the Occupy Wall Street Gangland. His video diary is in tonight's New York Star Watch The collapse of the Kardashians, canceled interviews public protests and now Spencer Pratt She's a hustler and most people don't like hustlers What the former Hillstar knows about a reality TV crash-and-burn? He talked too much Had a lot hits, a lot misses Jerry Maguire's child star today sporting a six pack The backstory 15 years later Now from Hollywood, The Insider is on. Hello and welcome to The Insider I'm Kevin Frazier a lot of entertainment news to bring you tonight That's right I'm... Yeah Wow John! I'm up-to-date now I know the Kardashian collapse is uh that sounds pretty big Oh yeah You know that Bruce and Demi thing wow? They're really punching that up

1:25:07 You know like, oh they're saying that they're making it sexy. Like uh... They always had threesomes and they always brought another woman into bed and you know but it was Ashton when he started, like a fool When he started screwing around on the side without telling her Idiot Oh Yeah What was his latest tweet? That's what important I don't know They were gonna report on it by the way They reported on his latest tweet His latest tweet! I didn't uh...I forgot to follow Ashton Latest tweet UGH! Anderson Pooper, which of course is the news side of the entertainment showbiz spectrum had some douche baguette on and she- I couldn't believe what came out her piehole about this Sandusky scam. By the way... interesting that guy gets lung cancer how convenient is that? You gotta get this guy outta the way Let's see... oh I know John do you have that lung cancer spray handy

1:26:08 It's a spray that I'm the guy. If you see something, say something. Love it! Love it love it love it Always great to bring in one of our favorite slogans So I've got a clip called getting a big audience Oh never mind just clip for later Okay Also uh let's see what else we go here that might be of some interest Well I have something that is very disturbing

1:27:07 This is from Russia Today. And it's a techno experts clip, by the way you got really loud just a second ago did you move into the microphone? I changed nothing! Oh okay... Do you want me to turn down my volume gain? No no don't touch anything i'll adjust here. It will not touch anything this is from Russia Today now I've clipped this down to about a minute The whole report which you can find in the show notes 358.nashownotes.com Hello, what are you doing? I'm crunching a Altoid I was wondering why it smelled so nice hmm

1:27:45 I've clipped this down, but i have not taken anything out of context and it does not change the outcome of the winners. But listen to what Russia Today is reporting on...I don't know..i've never seen this guy by the way their hosts they come and go you know it's like they're on rotational deployment on the show then you see a hot chick all of a sudden and she's gone And I guess they fired Thom Hartmann? I haven't seen him for weeks No he still does his regular show but its in the old set You know, with the stupid mic that's way up in the air. Right back episodes and he's gotten no this is all new And it's and he takes calls This is basically his old radio show done you know we as a podcast I guess it was all that bug eyes and they're crazy He sucked when he was on Russia Today totally alright well let's listen to this

1:28:34 And it will kind of well you'll give you me or your response today We learned that our democracy could be hacked by an eighth grader with 26 bucks just so you know Just say no John. You got an eighth-grader with 26 bucks your act that was a Tom Hartman is that thumb Yeah, he was on Russia Today is this Tom Hartman yeah? That's Tom Hartman He's ugly You've never seen him before? I just listen to your clips. I don't watch Tom Hartman, and I never see the guy on television Oh that's funny Okay so here is Tom Hartman then who obviously is a douche nozzle Today we learned that our democracy could be hacked by an 8th grader with 26 bucks That what the security assessment team with the US Department of Energy discovered when they successfully hacked into a Diebold electronic voting machine

1:29:25 and were able to change voting results without leaving any trace behind. Now this is known, this is no news but check out what he is asserting. It's a government agency that did this and the security assessment team leaders said about their ability to hack this voting machine This is a national security issue Despite all this, in next year's election 30% of voters are expected to use these very same hack-easy voting machines. But the rest of the world have shelved citing security concerns. Okay so this is all known right? but now listen to the twist that Thom Hartmann puts on it And today with the rise of hacktivist groups like Anonymous This gaping hole in the security of our elections could be exploited for absurd purposes

1:30:16 So imagine, if they and other hackers coordinated together to hack into voting machines nationwide and skew the voting results of say... The Republican Party. Coming up- uh, the Republican Party primaries coming up in a couple months Suddenly libertarian hero Ron Paul might be the guy to take on President Obama Can you see the republican leaders heads exploding? This to me is uhh.. A red book If I've ever heard one So what Thaum is asserting here, and the guy's a moron and robot. He's asserting that if Ron Paul wins the feds who say this is a national security issue will possibly come out and say oh well Anonymous hacked it so he didn't really win

1:31:07 Well this is not a new report. I still think he's not working for these guys anymore, so... I had never seen this so this was new to me. This report came out within days of that which was about a month or two ago of that kid who hacked the machine And the fact that he'd throw Ron Paul, but I don't remember this. I think I may have seen part of this report but I don't remember him bringing in the Ron Paul red herring which is interesting Yeah there- Ron Paul is the biggest threat Well not just Ron Paul But saying that Anonymous Yeah which is like... Yeah whatever But saying that Anonymous could do this So if- Ron Paul has a chance at winning fair and square You know? I think thats actually possible I think he can win the Iowa

1:31:52 Well that's what everyone is looking at. When is the Iowa... Explain for our non-American and even for a lot of our American listeners how this exactly works with these caucuses and then the primary, and what it means? And when can we expect this? Most states have normal primaries where you're a member of the party and you get to go vote for the guy you think should represent Your representatives go to the convention with votes to represent. Some states it's winner take all so whatever whoever wins gets all the votes for the for the convention and some states they divide it up, So if somebody gets 40% they get 40 percent of the votes and the other guy gets 30 and whatever

1:32:33 The caucus states, and I think there's only...I think Iowa was maybe the last one. Maybe there are others They actually have these meetings And they have a whole bunch of representatives that essentially the people who are going to go to the convention and then they debate Who they think they should vote for and then they go into different corners of the room. Who are these people that go to the meeting? Can anyone go to the meeting or is this like a specific type of person that can go to the meeting? Well, that's a good question I don't know the answer since i'm not in Iowa but I think it's like a town hall so I think every lot of people get to go to this. I dont know if they separate them...I dont'know But there's lots of these meetings, it's not like there is one. And they make a decision on who they're going to throw their votes to and then eventually they come to some conclusion and some guy wins! It's not...it's a completely different kind of thing and its like... Isn't that how high-profile Hurling was? So if you say I'm..you know I think Ron Paul should win because of this and other guys says I don't think so and he's in kinda different corners of the room You can look up on Wikipedia how the Iowa thing works but its totally alien to every other state

1:33:35 But it's considered very important because it is very old-fashioned. And then the big one, the big one is the New Hampshire primary which was the first technical primary and that supposed to Do mean some things and symbolically and then the next big one The main one is that Iowa is kind of important because it indicates this you know That you should where they come from behind guy shows up in wins And then New Hampshire kind of puts a stamp of approval on the on the guy, and now he's gonna be the leader throughout the primary Season and then South Carolina is comes up. And that essentially says this is what the south wants

1:34:19 And so the way it's been set up so far, it looks like Bachman was going to win Iowa. Romney was gonna win New Hampshire and Rick Perry was gonna easily win South Carolina because he tends to be the most religious guy But this doesn't seem to be shaking out that way It looks like Ron Paul could possibly win Iowa and for all we know He could win New Hampshire. And then if he wins those two, then it doesn't... Then we're gonna see chaos. He's either going to drop out or is gonna be threatened or something bad is gonna happen because they cannot they will not tolerate having Ron Paul as a candidate cause he would upset the apple cart. It would screw up this scam well

1:35:05 I like the idea of chaos and I'm hopeful. By the way, do I have to register as a Republican in Texas now in order to vote for Ron Paul on the primary? Do you have to do that again? I think so. Does Texas even have one or they just have a... I don't know they have a barbecue I think. They have a big barbecue this side. Alright, you got a clip here that you want me to play from PBS let's talk about this Yeah, this is so I'm watching the PBS and they have a some woman who's kind of one of those money collectors who I see Bs is our public broadcast system. This is the the public The viewer supported television in the United States of get my always bet They always stop the programming and then stand big for money And they have the phones ringing and the background on all these kinda thing and this woman is professional she's not

1:36:00 local so you'll find her on most of the any PBS station acting as though she's working for the local station and And they always bring in what they, this one impresses me because they bring in as if anybody wants to watch this guy who's made up some new exercise thing called Kuai Dong Du or something like that which is kind of a Tai Chi but essentially- Wait a minute. Is this gonna cost me $1,000 dollars to get a video? Is that what this is gonna be? $150 for a video. Can I play it? All the guy does from what I can tell is swing his arms like windmilling you know, like little kids do. Yeah! And but they... this is very important because this is what PBS is all about and so she makes us plea for money and then they kick it to him to give us a little bit of the really important things we need to know about this crazy exercise routine The chat room is calling it Kwai Dong Do and Long Duck Dong I can't wait for the arm twirling More informative programs in the future

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1:37:55 Turn from your hips in your waist and allow this flow to move the arms Inhale as you bring the hands up exhale press the hip forward turn from the center of the body and feel a nice opening through the spine yeah, shoulders and Flowing through the arms. Oh my chakras opening just relax and flow Allow the arms to drop and gravity to move the arms downward as the hips circle and bring the arms back up. Qi Gong, this is called moving from the center allows the body to move with more internal power with more flow and more ease breathe into it This exercise is said to invigorate the chi

1:38:43 I have an erected chi right now. It invigorates- it's said to invigorate the chi! Said to? Said to by who?! That doesn't actually do it, but it's said to invigorate the chi... It's said to invigorate the chi! Well we try to invigorate the chi of our listeners but not with a buncha bullcrap like that that they put on the air Why does anybody pay money for this? Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah, that'd be fab! On no agenda! So who invigorated our chi today? Well, Kevin would invigorate the Chi from Auburn New Hampshire guys that he gave us $111 11 cents guys to give thanks for all your hard work I present to you a no agenda haiku in the morning seeking karma PayPal beckons douchebag. No more That's a good one keep up the good work

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1:44:33 Or Christmas or New Year's. We're always here, we're always doing it for you and we have not taken a vacation yet in what four years five years now? A hiatus would be the word. Oh yeah seasonal hiatus. Or you could do what NPR does Here is a little clip that a human resource actually sent me the entire interview I was blown away by the fact that they actually had this guy on the air. Clip it down to a minute for your convenience, the outcome has not changed, the winners of the contest. Banks decided within the last couple weeks to scrap their plans for monthly debit card fee

1:45:09 But the costs really just shifted elsewhere. Bank of America is charging $5 for replacement if you lose your debit card, US Bancorp is charging 50 cents to deposit checks with your cell phone. Sounds like a normal news report to me right? Normal news report but gee whiz they're interviewing some guy! There are plenty of alternatives including credit unions and here's another one it's called Simple. Not exactly a bank but kind of works like one without all the fees, the hassle and headaches. Joshua Reich is the CEO welcome to the program Thank you so much for having me Tess So first things first what is Simple? Are you a bank or are not a bank Does this sound like an editorial to you John or what do you call those things...a commercial

1:45:57 It sounds like a very nicely done, it's that dead NPR sound. So she is definitely one of these NPR types probably a local show and if this is there some scam involved here because she's too anxious and she's really happy to hear from this guy he's in the studio and he's going to talk about something. Well I guarantee you can listen to the entire interview, not at any single moment is there any critical question whatsoever but listen how she wraps up the interview at the end So Simple is designed to replace your bank. You know, when you are a customer of a bank today... By the way he's a Brit! Please! ...put up a chequing account and savings account The more accounts that a customer has at a bank by working with us Actually might be Australian I take that back now by working with us so he's wrapping it out he's wrapping up his message we provide better service and uh... we acquire customers that banks couldn't otherwise get and they pay for our service

1:46:58 Joshua Reich is the CEO of Simple and we've been talking about their new website for your banking needs. Thank you so much for coming in! We've been talking about their website FOR YOUR BANKING NEEDS! This is like, it reminds me there's this guy who does a bunch of stuff... You see him on the airplane all the time He does Mark Bunting Oh yeah, Bunting's Windows. Bunting is windows and bunting on tech and bunting bunting bunting nice enough guy met him but everything he does I mean it's just a commercial deal i mean he charges like I forgot like 30 grand or something to do what the profile of someone Yeah And so you bring Toshiba on well what have we got here for new laptop oh we've got this new laptop its fantastic looks fantastic oh it is fantastic It works well! Looks fantastic it is fantastic

1:47:52 I'm Mark Bunting, you know kind of thing and it's just like But this is a launch of a new product. There's not a single And even at the end there still any he's basically saying oh our service is great It's awesome and just listen to what she says we acquire customers Listen how she ends so he's talking about his service and listened to her critical journalism couldn't otherwise get inside pay us for that service All right All right, all right. Yeah why don't you do an interview with the guy from payday loans? All right well then probably... I think it's a great service you provide the veterans of this country by stealing their money! Alright alright well that sounds just great yeah that is the true hallmark of someone who has been like just interview the guy don't make waves just say all right Joshua Reich is the CEO of Simple and we've been talking about their new website

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1:51:54 There was a bunch of them in the Bay Area now turkeys are everywhere. Are you allowed to shoot turkey? Turkey birds, but I are you allowed to shoot turkeys on the bay area not here if yours inside a city limits You can't discharge your weapon. Oh that sucks blowgun With darts and curare yeah nice good sound effect so Again is I did get a clip I think this is a meeting, i don't have the actual attribution. I'm not absolutely sure but this was a meeting discussing the website and USA Today editorial board getting a big audience. Sarah how did you get a picture of Will & Molly with a bear when they just left to go find it?

1:52:44 We made it on the computer! Looks pretty good, huh? But it's dishonest. Look Sarah nobody is going to read this website if its dull. Look at the hits we've more than doubled our readers since the changes but you're lying Sarah you don't understand the news business It's not about telling the truth Its about getting a big audience Yeah. That's why our audience is so tiny! That's why... Damn it. So, David Gregory? Didn't we have a different name for him? Yeah we did. Was it like Robert? No, it was like George or Dale or something like that. Dale Gregory. He has been renamed. Dale Gregory has a new show called Pass

1:53:37 And I did. So a news story comes in and that's what you say? Yeah, pass or fail...and uh..I don't know what the hell it is. Dale Gregory so he of course uhh....and i didn't realize this until I started looking into this douche He's like the gray haired guy who does uhh...is it meet the press? yeah he looks like he should be a football coach right oh ooh and after uhhh.....the original host of the show died of heart attack Dale Gregory was pushed in really quickly. So he's got this new show and I just want to play this the clip really well is relevant to the information but i didn't know this about Dale and so he's on, I don't know... He's plugging his show on

1:54:26 Think MSNBC or something and I did these plug in the show and he and the show that he's plugging is an episode where had Jack Abramoff on who was Was a lobbyist who was jailed? And of course they're relating this to Newt Gingrich and everything but pay close attention To what he says about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac point is yes, what I did was criminal But if you think that there's some white and black area where this is the criminal stuff this is the bad stuff and this is a good stuff in lobbying that's not true he saying the whole thing is some shade of grace on degree of gray and that gingrich was involved in using his former position for money in fact but there's no way on earth they would have come to him as well as advise us if you haven't had that job backgrounds or fannie mae and freddie mac squads are uh... public-private agencies

1:55:14 They survived and they made a great deal of money because they worked the hill. But they went well beyond working the hill, they had the hill by their throat This is Republicans this is Democrats Both sides on the aisle made a lot of money through these companies So that's the backdrop Newt Gingrich said in the Bloomberg debate The real story here after saying that Frank and Dodge should go to jail He said the real story is how close the politicians got to Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Now what's interesting about this, is that Dale Gregory's wife who carries a different name her name is not Mrs. Gregory Is Beth Wilkinson and she was one of the top four executives at Fannie Mae And she worked at this huge law firm

1:56:05 And she resigned in 2008 when basically Fannie Mae became a government agency. So what I didn't know about Dale Gregory is that he's completely compromised! Yeah, she worked at the... this is huge firm it's Paul Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. Yeah and she even worked at... In fact she even helped convict Timothy McVey Well, yeah Wilkinson. Yeah she's well known for successfully arguing for the execution of Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh what circumstances? As a prosecutor

1:56:47 Yeah, well you know what we have to do obviously. Oops! I have to do this... I'm looking at her now You got the book? After completing her four year obligation to the army Wilkinson became a full time assistant attorney US Attorney for the Eastern Division in New York prosecuting various kinds of cases including narcotics white collar offenses violent crimes among her cases was the first United States prosecution of a bombing of an airliner 1994 case against Colombian narco-terrorist Noriega Dini Munoz Mosquera And then she won the highest honor for exceptional work on that case. She then became special counsel to the Deputy Attorney General advising top management of the Department on criminal policy and investigations, she was promoted to Principal Deputy of the department's Terrorism and Violent Crime Section It was in that capacity that she participated in a trial team In US vs McVeigh & Terry Nichols She won the Attorney General's Exceptional Service Award An unprecedented second time

1:57:48 So this just shows you once again how the mainstream media, how compromised it is. I was blown away! I didn't know this about Dale Gregory In 2006 Fannie Mae recruited Wilkinson as part of an effort to rebuild his relationship with regulators after accounting scandals and complaints about its corporate culture Her compensation that Fannie Mae was not disclosed when she was hired You can bet it wasn't low. I'm sure it was high. She served as Fannie Mae's Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Corporate Secretary from February 2006 to 2008. She resigned her position along with three other senior executives after a troubled mortgage giant was taken over by the government. Well hello! Maybe not groundbreaking news but wow... She is married to David Gregory. Dale.

1:58:42 Could somebody please go in and change the wiki page? Yes, Dale. And by the way if you look at the top of that page scroll all the way to the top You see that picture she looks a lot like Jimmy Wales yeah She's got a beard Anyway so there you go That's uh that's how great that is when David Dale Gregory is asking questions on meet the press you know he's got an agenda well He has Yeah, it's actually questionable whether I don't know what are you gonna do? Just pointing it out as the obvious. What are you gonna Do listen to my best podcast in the universe is what you're gonna do if you want any type of analysis of real news She's an interesting-looking woman there she is with her two kids and she looks like a she looks like a

1:59:33 One of those women that would be, you know have a whistle around her. Look at her images. Whistle around in her neck and in the pool! You know one of those little perky cheerleader types Probably an energy nut I mean she's probably just on fire all the time Well there is couple different pictures here let me see Oh she's tiny Yeah she's very small She's probably the same size as Perino No...I bet ya What was that with my chi? You could increase... I wish i could remember that line. I can't remember the line now! The chi, it said to increase the chi or activate the chi or some crap. Invigorate, invigorate. She can't be taller than 5'2". Invigorate

2:00:23 Invigorate the cheese. Yeah, yeah She's got that gold lemme dress on this thing We need that we need the heights of people in the wiki pages well Dale Gregory I think is 6'5". No He's very tall way he's six-six five years. What's he 65 and she's not that small? He's just a big tall guy Five nine I bet you no there's no way she's 5 9 do you think she's smaller oh Oh, she's gotta be 5'2". Well... I don't know. You know the funny thing is we don't know because the great internet won't tell us people's heights! I love how someone in the chat room was saying hey man it's David Gregory not Dale What an idiot Welcome to the program Enjoy enjoy enjoy the show Yeah have fun It's David

2:01:25 So what else we got? Wrap ups. Well actually, we've got extra time because I think we killed like 10 minutes while I was trying to get my mic to work. We do have... well and so did you know there's carbon tax in Canada and Australia? I am sure... Australia yeah. We know it's in Australia but California and Canada no. In California? Listen this clip that on CSPAN they play this first time ever seen this the Australian Parliament Right this is the most for one thing the setting is just depressing It's like something Stalin would have put together But it's kind of modeled after British Parliament And they have the same kind of thing with one side asking questions and that the in this case

2:02:07 Well, actually we might as well play her first. Jillian...Jillard is...Gillard. She comes out and screeches about one thing or another and to get an idea because she's so sedate when she was with Obama Yeah To get an idea of what this Parliamentary back-and-forth sounds like especially with her screeching Play the Gillard screeching clip which is one of the little back and forths they had in their parliamentary session, the questions and answers. I don't know if there's rigged as the ones in England They probably are but you can get an idea what this sounds like The live cattle exports, the biggest budget deficits in our history It's failure to protect Australia's borders The introduction of the world only economy wide carbon tax that it promised would never happen

2:02:53 I ask, Mr Speaker, given the Prime Minister's failure to act on Saturday to prevent 48 hours of avoidable chaos how can she expect the Australian people to have any faith whatsoever in this divided and directionless government? Thank you very much Mr Speaker and to the Leader of the Opposition I say gee it's getting a bit embarrassing for you now isn't it. There he is with his chants of negativity, comes in here every day and has clipped together his little negative slogans and he has done that with a sense of desperation today because he

2:03:40 He does not want to be asked when he knew what he knew about Qantas. Did he know an hour before the planes were grounded? Did he know 24 hours before the planes were grounded? Did he know 48 hours before the planes were grounded? Did he bring up Qantas and suggest that the planes should be grounded? Who knows what role the Leader of the Opposition played in this dispute because he is in cover-up mode! having screamed for the truth yesterday. What the hell was that? It's a banshee whale. Oh, she's a banshee! Yeah She is terrible So she goes to the G20 and this guy named Swan who is the associate assistant he's like the vice president He's the Vice Prime Minister I guess A vice And he comes up just... he's the substitute acting prime minister To answer this crazy question The stuff that he says

2:04:50 like what are you talking about this is a complete as far as I know. I don't know that California has the carbon tax do they? I haven't paid it or is it somewhere that's been hidden from us, I'm not sure but listen to this Deputy Leader of the Opposition. Thank you Mr Speaker, my question is to the Acting Prime Minister I refer the acting prime minister to the Canadian Foreign Ministers categorical statement last week that Canada and The United States will not introduce a carbon tax or an emissions trading scheme Given that the government's modelling of the impact of the carbon tax relies entirely on the introduction of similar schemes across the world, how can the acting Prime Minister continue to claim that the government's modelling is credible? Or is he suggesting the Canadian Foreign Minister is wrong? The Acting Prime Minister. Well I would have thought it was very clear we have a different policy from the Canadians' but anyway...

2:05:48 Order! There are a few points that ought to be made here, Mr Speaker. The context of the question is in the assertion that somehow there is no carbon pricing in Canada which is simply untrue. The Canadian provinces of British Columbia and Quebec already have carbon taxes so we did not hear any mention of that And of course we don't hear any mentions of those states in the annotation, which are putting in place carbon pricing. This is what I meant before when I said they live in a post-fact world. They simply try to ignore the basic facts when it comes to any issue because what they want to do is play politics and deny science and facts. We see that on display here.

2:06:44 and time again. So Alberta also has a form of carbon price, as I said before Quebec does as well and we've got California the eighth largest economy in its own right in the world with carbon pricing Mr Speaker but what does all this come back to? Mr. Speaker, what all this comes back to is that side at the moment happens to be dominated by climate change skeptics, Mr. Speaker. The science is in! Science? Wow... No I didn't know about that. This-I'm not sure that this sounds like it's all bogative It's totally bogative. Wow

2:08:32 I don't, it's like cannabis is being...I mean i'm sure have been better but this way we're just a little bad acting for this to change your pace here. With no security I'm sure you could just walk right in put a bullet in him. I am going to Russia and I'm going to kill him so don't try to talk me out of it How are you planning on getting into Russia? If you had division support, you could hop a C-130 at a ramp start and parachute in. Oh is that how Captain America would do it? Lieutenant Commander, yes I would. Samok still has his own division hunting you remember You won't see me coming Yeah? Zetrov owns two airlines and two shipping firms which means Samok has every border official in its back pocket land sea & air There's no way Alexander Udonov gets back into Russia She doesn't

2:09:16 I'm going as someone else. What was wrong with C-SPAN? Was there nothing on this week or...? It's all book TV and... No, there wasn't! Well, it got to C-SPAN. I got the thing from the Australian Parliament from C-SPAN Okay, I got a little thing. A little ditty from C-SPAN So Lucifer is out in Hawaii Yeah that's the other thing everyone's vacationing right now This is the vacation time of year They usually go someplace where it's warm while the public Is stuck in the United States you can barely get out of the country Well its nice and snowy Right Except for where you are It can get pretty cold here You know we have hailstorms is what we have here

2:10:00 No, that should be fun. Yeah well literally a garage is not a bad thing to have so Hillary is out there with some CEO of something or other and she's doing a photo op and then in the background A Hawaiian dude dressed in one of those Hawaiian garbs were like just little a little pouch covering You know what it looks like? No. Yeah, you know he's got a little crotch G-stringy thing on and he's carrying a torch and runs by in the background but her response is just... It's a clippity-clop clip Here he goes He runs by

2:10:49 People wonder what the chief executive is doing. She made the implication that it was Obama running by? Yeah, who knows! That's what she said. It sounded like it to me Who knows what the chief executive is doing she says yeah there he goes There he goes with his little loincloth on Loincloth and everything short of a spear So funny God I hate that woman Well...she's not my favorite so there were couple of interesting news reports in Gitmo Nation Lowlands

2:11:35 It took me a while to figure it out that it was a promotion for movie. Yeah, and the movie opened up in Europe first. It's kind of like a docu-movie And the Cancer Foundation in The Netherlands came out with this big press release saying we're no longer giving any money to pink ribbon foundations And the crux of what the news reports were saying was, it turns out that these pink ribbon organizations if you look at their annual report and which I did take a look at but there were other people who had done it before me so it was easier for me to parse it. You know where you have like

2:12:20 I mean if you just look in the store, you got like pink cooking wear, pink clothing. Special pink ribbon this and pink ribbon that. Turns out they actually send none of the money to cancer research All they do is make more pink stuff and pink parties. And there's a documentary out, and I'm going to play the audio of the trailer... half of it which is about a minute which is pretty good called Pink Ribbon Inc., yeah! It's making a huge splash in Euro land and you know and then it's what we always say about these bogative charities

2:13:04 Since our inception, we have donated over a billion and half dollars. We do use a lot of upbeat music and we try to use a lot of words like inspiring and hope. Breast cancer survivors raise your hands high! Can we take a step back? What is going on?! We're missing something big Raising money has become the priority regardless of the consequences. If people actually knew what was happening, they would be really pissed off The first ribbon was salmon colored made by a woman named Charlotte Haley Estee Lauder came to her and said we love your ribbon And we want to make this a symbol on breast cancer and Charlotte said no that's about your bottom line They said well all we have to do if we wanted is to change the ribbon pink

2:13:57 It is hypocrisy to use carcinogens in products and at the same time be raising money for a cure. As you can see behind me, we handed out 12 thousand bottles of Honest Tea and Honest Aid today! It's almost like our disease is being used for people to profit... And that's not okay! So you really need to see this trailer I can't wait for the movie it's great though I mean so so spot on man Bogative yeah, there's one bogat thing after another none of this ever surprises us. No it doesn't but you know I think we've actually talked about on the show how crazy it is that people get you know and And by the way miss Mickey. I think has also fallen for this You know she's like oh, you know the ribbon It's a symbol But when you find out this was invented by woman it was salmon colored and she made the whole

2:14:48 Ribbon thing and then it got taken over. It got hijacked by Estee Lauder, and they made it pink So I could sell products that actually have carcinogens in it But they give nothing like 0 point 1 percent of the money goes to cancer research Where does the money go into making more products and parties? Bunga bunga parties well the party angle seems to be acceptable to me Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that Have a good party So that's all I got for today show. Yeah, we have the Maynard interview with sir Dave n3 pro as a final clip of As a show closing clip. I hope you're okay with that yeah, cuz really maynard does is fine with me? Yeah? I love it. You know we need to just need more Maynards so he's uh He's actually talking to Eric the shill

2:15:50 About contacting more nights, which is great. It's funny Eric the shill has done a good job of keeping the night We don't we don't give away our night Addresses or anything it's just the way you know week yeah There's like a whole offers are cleared yeah Yeah, you got clear meter could talk to him and then it's like Scientology they can become buddies. Yeah, she's like the Scientologist if you have to be come buddies for all week here You have to be cleared Alright, you can find everything that we discussed today including some of these fine clips of Banshee screaming in the show notes at 358.nashownotes.com Hopefully will have a little more C-Span action for our Thursday show which will be the fake holiday Thanksgiving and will be here with The Greatest Podcast In The Universe Coming to you here from Camp MoFo with a little bit of echoey sound in the background I'm in central of the Lone Star State

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