Episode 339 · Thursday, 15 September 2011

Cocked Pistol

A broadcast from Brasilia uncovers scripted presidential rallies, the pharmaceutical industry's influence on medical research, and the aggressive expansion of Chinese telecommunications giants across the globe.

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About this episode

John C. Dvorak broadcasts from Brasilia, Brazil, following a keynote at the Futurecom technology conference, while Adam Curry joins from California to analyze the shifting geopolitical landscape. The duo examines the American Jobs Act promotion in North Carolina, where President Barack Obama appeared at Fort Hayes High School in a highly produced event featuring scripted student chants. Tensions rise as the Vice President Joe Biden introduces the term "Lone Ranger" to describe domestic terror threats, signaling a new phase in administrative rhetoric.

European austerity measures trigger massive protests in Rome and Madrid as the Eurozone debt crisis deepens. Former EU Commission President Romano Prodi and Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou face scrutiny over the centralization of financial power in Brussels, while German Commissioner Gunther Oettinger suggests flying the flags of deficit-heavy nations at half-mast. In the private sector, Pfizer and Eli Lilly fund new Alzheimer's research in Neurology just as the Lipitor patent expires, and Huawei aggressively undercuts competitors like Ericsson through controversial management tactics. Meanwhile, the Department of Energy faces a Congressional grilling over the $535 million Solyndra loan failure and taxpayer-funded luxury vehicle production at Fisker Automotive.

Technical glitches in Brazil and a $1,400 utility bill discrepancy provide a backdrop for the show's unique Value-for-Value funding model. The hosts grant a knighthood to Sir Gregory Laudrup and analyze the CDC-backed film Contagion as a potential propaganda vehicle. The broadcast concludes with a look at NASA's falling UARS satellite and the chilling social media intimidation tactics used by Mexican drug cartels in Nuevo Laredo.


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CHAPTER 01 / 41 Discussion

Dvorak Broadcasting from Brazil, Futurecom Event Speech

John C. Dvorak broadcasts from a television studio in Brasilia, Brazil, after delivering a paid speech at the Futurecom technology event. He describes the IPTV infrastructure of the station and the social culture of the Brazilian people. Adam Curry welcomes him from California as they open episode 339 of the podcast.

john c. dvorak· brazil· brasilia· futurecom· iptv· sao paulo· eric lieb

00:00 Slaves of Europe, you have a choice. Either you can go into a dire situation like the hunger winter of 1945 to 1949, or you can let us take care all your taxation and all your financial troubles. That is all. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's Thursday September 15th 2011 time for your Gidmonation Media Assassination episode 339-er This is no agenda Enjoying my RFID tooth implant here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry and from Gitmo Nation Fejuada, I am John C. Dvorak.

00:50 Queijoada. Que é isso? Que que é a feijoada? That's the Brazilian national dish that everybody talks about endlessly. Oh, well in the morning too then! And it's the only place you can really have it is at somebody's house. They don't serve it in restaurants? I think they do but nobody orders it at a restaurant because their mom makes it better...you know that kind of thing. Like pancakes. I won't have pancakes anywhere else but here Hey John, in the morning to you there in Brasilia. That's pretty awesome that you're able to connect from there! Wooo! Yeah, well it wasn't easy. I had to thank Eric Lieb who is... runs a... what's the name of their... for some reason never remember it The television... Just TV It's so hard for me to remember that, it's difficult That's like the main television station So I'm in there studios on a pretty good line Is this like a terrestrial broadcast channel? No! All IPTV Oh really?! They have big audience

01:50 They're huge! Why don't we simulcast it? They should have a camera on you right now. Eh, they do television... We don't do any of the- There's no visuals on our show thank God So well whatcha doing there? Sorry? Whatcha doing there There was a Futurecom event which is I gave a speech to at and so they flew me down to do the speech and you know it's this paid speech obviously, otherwise they don't leave the house. And yeah some coming back later this week We eat! I can just hear the family joyous in Washington in Walla Walla

CHAPTER 02 / 41 Discussion

Brazilian Social Culture, Trade Show Booth Bimbos

A discussion of Brazilian culture highlights the social nature of the population and the quality of local cuisine, specifically churrascarias and Italian restaurants. Observations from the Futurecom trade show floor include the prevalence of "booth bimbos" and the difficulty of distinguishing transsexual individuals at public events.

brazil· sao paulo· churrascarias· futurecom· booth bimbos· transsexuals

02:29 Send him away, we eat once again. So you've been to Brazil before? I've never been actually...I have never been to South America Yeah i've been here a half dozen times And do you like it? It's a kick. I really do like it, the people are great they're social animals The Brazilians unlike any place else in the world I think they have the most social culture period If they get a chance to throw a party around you and... And the food here is spectacular They have these barbecue places called churrascarias which serve all kinds of pieces of meat and the Italian restaurants here are world class, they're in the same league as Italy. And yeah I know it's a very... except that visually towns like Sao Paulo which is where i am leave a lot to be desired. I will say though Brazil has the most awesome most beautiful transsexuals in the world

03:24 I don't know, it's a possibility. You can tell they're so good looking apparently but i went to the uh... I do have some photos of me blogging from the futurecom event because in Brazil they still pride themselves with booth bimbos Mmm, or killers. Hmm so you got to check him out I'm telling it that's them That's where they're all working well You take a look at these pictures and see if you can spot the transsexual idea Wait a minute It's a new game from no agenda spot the tranny So the thing is he actually did? I think they're like at these trade shows I think these girls are like tourist attractions because they have they'll be in the booth and

04:07 Some bunch of guys will be around they're taking their pictures I mean, they just swarm to the booths just to take the pictures of these women. I gotta get me one of them gigs man I got to go down there this sounds like awesome. I got a give me a trade photos I post on the blog DeVore org slash blog you just teasing me now nine. I just don't know I'm gonna post those as soon as I get back. I'm gonna post everything Unfortunately the reason there's a couple problems. I had in this trip is technology problems ooh Let me explain. Please First of all, I've got no clips but i do have clips Oh you do? And the reason is because im using a class 6 or a clas 8 SD card

CHAPTER 03 / 41 Discussion

SD Card Class Compatibility, Dental Implant Procedure

Technical difficulties in Brazil involve a laptop's inability to read Class 6 and Class 8 SD cards due to interface limitations. Simultaneously, a host describes a recent dental procedure involving a metal pin and cement for a tooth implant, jokingly referring to it as an RFID chip installation.

sd card· class 6· class 8· dental implant· rfid· dentistry

04:45 And my reader will not read anything. This class thing with these readers is ridiculous to me, what difference does it make? Why would a Class 6 be any different than a Class 8 or a Class 4 before they had classes? What this is an SD card that your laptop can't read? Is that what I'm understanding? Exactly. And so then I didn't bring the right USB cable because i didn't think I needed one and the next thing you know, um...I've got these- I've got both photos that I wanted to blog Yeah. and sound clips that I wanted to use that I can't read because of the lack of the interface because uh...because these new people don't realize at these cards have got

05:28 You know they're not all SD cards are the same and some old devices won't take some of the newer cards because I don't know why they don't think ahead to be honest about it. It seems to me that you would have Immediately, you know this has to do with capacity But you think that these guys would dream up a system that would take it to like a terabyte on a SD card not worry about it but That's not the case. Well we're a fine pair then this morning You uh...You can't read your class 8 and I've got a Class D Part 15 RFID chip now implanted in my tooth. You probably do Is it hurt? Yeah It throbs So I take it you went to the dentist, you warned us about this

CHAPTER 04 / 41 Discussion

Joe Biden, Lone Ranger Terrorist Meme

Vice President Joe Biden introduced a new terminology for domestic terrorism, mistakenly referring to a "lone wolf" as a "Lone Ranger" during an interview with Ann Curry. The discussion analyzes Biden's repeated use of the term "lone actor," suggesting it implies a scripted or disingenuous nature to reported terror threats.

joe biden· lone ranger· lone wolf· lone actor· department of homeland security· ann curry

06:10 And you now have, they had to drill down into your through the gums and down to the bone. Yeah. And then they don't screw in the post anymore. They used to screw them like wood screws now it's just you know they drill in there and then they put a metal pin in there and that then they glue it in Oh, the glue on that won't hold. Cement whatever it is and I always want the dentist or endodontist slash prosthetodontist prostiodontist whatever it is Always wanted to tell me what they're doing. So if you would just tell me just I hate sitting there doing it Yeah, no drilling through your brain. Yeah That's basically what he said Right and these like this huge long drill like now watch this And as yeah, it's like what is the compound? Well, let's a fucker luck of Wacka Wacka No will tell me more about it. He's from Germany Uh-huh. Yeah does have a brand name You know, I just keep going

07:10 Brand new. You're doing this while the sky's in your mouth? As it were? That is a ringtone right there everybody! Anyway, so we're just barely getting by everybody but here we are and in the morning to you John there in Sudamerica And in the morning to you and all ships at sea, in the morning to feet on the ground and the boots in the air. And of course we do have a number of our human resources all lined up ready to go good to go in our chat room they're charged up at noagendastream.com NoAgendaChat.net We're very happy to have y'all here because there's plenty going on Number one John...we have uh..we have a new meme it is known as The Lone Wolf Is Over! It's gone replaced

07:59 We have a new one. That's no good for us, we like that sound effect No it is very good and I have plenty of new sound effects because the new meme is brought to us by Vice President Joe O'Biden You once said that the idea there being a massive attack in United States like 9-11 is unlikely end quote What is most likely at this moment in history In terms of terror action Mr. Vice President? Well, and the thing we're all most worried about is what they call a Lone Ranger alone actor there you go It's the lone ranger everybody Is this guy a dick or one? John yeah

08:47 Yeah, no I think you've found a winner. Why don't we just demean one of our folk heroes? Are you still there?! That's our new jingle! He's such an idiot he can't even read the script everyone is talking about Lone Wolf but not Joe Biden. Attacking United States like 9-11 is unlikely end quote What is most likely at this moment in history in terms of terror action Mr Vice President Well, Ann the thing we're all most worried about is what they call a Lone Ranger. A lone actor Now I'm listening to this and like really so first of all he's an idiot because he just not sticking to the script And he's just like uh yeah go on i'll talk to Ann Curry whatever it's a Lone Ranger

09:39 But then he keeps saying this word actor and I think that this is actually the subtle new change in the messaging. Listen to a little bit more. So it's not just actor, it's the lone actor now Allow me to read you the definition from Webster's of actor. Noun, a person whose profession is acting on the stage in movies or television. Two, A person who behaves in a way that is not genuine In war one must be a good actor So... Is he basically just saying this all phony? That these are all actors All these guys who were like pretending to uh I mean then and now He's not lying I guess

10:37 Literally, we can be on the lookout for actors hired by Department of Homeland Security to go out and pretend to cause terror. Yeah you know I think this is a conclusion that we've drawn that most of this is false flag and that's what an actor would do maybe... You think it may just be a Freudian slip? No he keeps saying actor-actor-actor! It's all about actors! Now I live in a town full of actors I mean, you know yeah there is a third on the list. A participant in an action or process employers are key actors within industrial relations but not really like an actor...I don't know it's uh i find it curious to say the least particularly because he then talks about The Lone Ranger and actual actor! Yeah and of a childhood folk hero

CHAPTER 05 / 41 Discussion

Barack Obama, American Jobs Act Promotion

President Barack Obama traveled to North Carolina to promote the American Jobs Act, urging the public to pressure Congress to pass the bill immediately. Critics note the lack of a published full text for the bill at the time of the speech, despite the President's public displays of a thick document.

barack obama· american jobs act· north carolina· jobs bill· whitehouse.gov

11:38 I don't know. They should just keep this guy off the air and let Obama do the acting. Well, Obama's not too good either! So I know you've been in Brazil so you haven't been able to follow everything but he's been going around town... Am i actually missing anything? Because he seems to be giving this exact same speech over and over and over. Has he modified it? Well there are a couple of things going on So let me see, first of all... Let me see where is it? He was in Ohio. He's in North Carolina so he's in this is North Carolina I believe and of course he's going out trying to get everyone on board with this jobs bill the American Jobs Act which is not a bill yet as far as I know It just like some one pager

12:32 that's been published and of course everyone's ta- Well he held up, last time I looked he held a big giant thick document that claimed this was the bill. Oh i have not seen that yet it has yet to be- He was holding it like a preacher holds one of those sagging bibles It has yet to be published I have not seen it. I've seen a one-pager on WhiteHouse.gov which kind of outlines it, but the bill you know that's filled with legalese and has to replace things in other texts and its uh... is very complicated thing and of course whatever regardless of what it is we have to pass it now we gotta pass it now and he's in North Carolina. That's what? Now thats the problem! What does he need so why is such a hurry well I I have some ideas about that first let's listen how desperate he really become

13:18 And for those of you who are in other parts of Gitmo Nation around the world, around this globe... This testicular object we call home planet Earth. You know this is like the-this is supposed to save our American economy and it's very unclear what it is or just seems like a bunch of crap but this is how desperate he is talking to some folks in North Carolina and this is pretty funny We need to build an economy that lasts. And Raleigh, that starts now. Starts now! I love you back. That starts... But if ya love me If ya love me You gotta help me pass this bill Not once but twice If ya love me Ya gotta help me pass this bill IF YA LOVE ME IF YA LOVE ME This is a great song lyric If ya love me Ya gotta help me pass this bill That's pathetic

CHAPTER 06 / 41 Discussion

Scripted Political Rallies, High School Audience Staging

An analysis of a presidential appearance at Fort Hayes High School in Ohio suggests the event was a highly produced television experience. Audio evidence points to producers using "warm-up" techniques to prompt students to chant "pass this bill" and stage interactions with the President.

barack obama· ohio· fort hayes high school· stagecraft· warm-up man· pass this bill

14:30 That is totally pathetic. So have you seen the new site that's floating around? Wait, wait before we get to that because I know exactly what we're going to talk about before we get to that let me give you two more little thingies here so he's in now he's in Ohio and he's at some... What is it? He's at some high school And he's so... this is all set up, right? So they've had producers go in there. Because of course it was all a television show They've already had producers go in They've set it all up They've rehearsed the kids

15:08 to start this chant which is now pass this bill, pass this bill. This is what's going on continuously. Oh yeah that's gonna do it! And so he comes out and he's such... He's so programmed that he even stumbling through the opening remarks and well you'll hear it It is a great honor to be here at Fort Hayes one of the best high schools in Ohio I want to thank Tom for that introduction. He just gave me a quick tour and let me just say this building, these buildings look great! So instead of these buildings he says this bill? He's so preoccupied And let me just say this build- These buildings look great! He doesn't even...he is so insincere

16:00 You don't give a crap about the buildings, it's all about this bill. I mean these buildings... Let's do it! Come on kids now listen you can actually hear the producers in the background because the crowd is quiet they're not riled up they're completely quiet and you hear the producers with their scripts banging their hands above their heads to get everyone to start doing the chant listen Pass this bill right away There we go I've been on so many TV shows and sets. This is how it works It's pretty sure but explain to people listening what a warm-up man does Yeah So on every single show where there's an audience whether it's live pre tape doesn't matter for at least half an hour sometimes an hour Before the show starts you've got a number of people sometimes

16:56 But typically you've got a producer, you know guy with headset on with a communication device looking all important stuff And he's going to alright everybody over here. We're gonna get now we're gonna practice because when the president comes out We're gonna practice some this I want y'all over here once they pass this bill pass this bill and he's got a script in his hand and he's always like slapping it against his other hand. This is I mean if only we could have boots on the ground to go look at some of this stuff because you, i'm telling you this is happening! This is set up and it's a television experience. Right? And lot of times that these are high school kids all they're thinking is I want to get laid they don't care about the bill exactly and then these producers by many of them are actually cheerleaders

17:42 that can really get an audience worked up. I've seen guys who just make an audience go crazy with them, you know they can make them applaud, they get in front of him during the presentation and these guys...the audience goes nuts with some of these guys it's this is obviously a big setup but i was wondering the following which is that If you remember about two years ago we did one of these Obama things and there was somebody yelling out I love you, and he didn't have much to say. He said I love you too it was unrehearsed but now it seems like that I love you thing was rehearsed and the whole thing seemed like a script. Should we listen again just to check that? I don't know. Work should be done! There are workers ready to do it so let's tell Congress pass this bill right away

18:28 Wait a minute, sorry that was the wrong one. My mistake here we go You know that's a good point because he it sounded almost like he was waiting for it and the key word was it starts now And it sure didn't sound like a high school guy to me. Well, I could have been one of the guys from the football team but that's kind of curious. One of the... Listen! It's just like the guy is- is a linebacker. I love you Brock! We need to build an economy that lasts and rather than starts now. I love you back! Buenas tardes te quiero! Hmm anyway so its uh its really just sad because in the meantime people are starving we're not doing good

CHAPTER 07 / 41 Discussion

Democratic Election Strategy, Potential 2012 Candidates

Speculation regarding the 2012 presidential election considers the possibility of Barack Obama declining to run for re-election. Potential alternatives discussed include Vice President Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton, alongside the political fallout of the current administration's economic policies.

barack obama· joe biden· hillary clinton· 2012 election· democratic party

19:29 No, and we're not going to do any good whether the bill passes or not. The whole thing's ridiculous And besides that this shit there's already even some Democrats are bailing out on him This is not gonna go anywhere I think he's just wasting his time the question is again Is it gonna affect him with in the public eye as either a failure? Or they are they will be public turn on the Republicans because he's gonna try to convince everybody that this is not really a new tax Bill I've been reading more and more that There's the once again, it's cropping up that you know he made he may just not run for re-election Yeah well That's one of our theories so we would win and we would need something who would run these let's think about that for a second Who would run it with Biden run Oh Biden? Or wood would Hillary jump in cuz they're not gonna Let her run. We already figured that out and we know the reasons why right yeah So who would it be well you and I could run on the Democratic ticket That would rock

CHAPTER 08 / 41 Discussion

Lipitor Patent Expiration, Alzheimer's Disease Study

A new study linking high cholesterol to Alzheimer's disease is scrutinized as a marketing effort by Pfizer ahead of the Lipitor patent expiration in November 2011. The research, published in Neurology, is noted for being funded by major pharmaceutical companies including Eli Lilly, GlaxoSmithKline, and Pfizer.

lipitor· pfizer· alzheimer's disease· cholesterol· neurology.org· pharmaceutical industry

20:27 Yeah, we could win and then they blame us. So there was a something that came out That I immediately identified him like wow this is this is amazing big news here Big news is that? Cholesterol isn't you okay sorry I'm looking for my little red book You brought it with you good couldn't bring an SD card reader, but he brought the damn book So there's a big news out here in the United States of Gitmo nation And and I when I heard this I immediately like oh. I've got to go I've gotta look into this and that was right I believe New research suggests that high cholesterol levels could boost the risk of Alzheimer's disease by creating more brain clogging bits known as plaque

21:22 Now, we've been on this Alzheimer's thing for what John? Months now. We've been tracking this waiting for you and then once in a while there is little thing about oh maybe there is vaccine and I have been tracking the vaccines but now all of sudden it comes into clear view! This is about Lipitor going out of patent Right. In November, in fact so they've got to start it up now and then all of a sudden there's this magical study which really if you look way down into the study says well you know it could be but the headline is... It could be! Yeah now the headline is high cholesterol might be linked to Alzheimer's disease So let me just remind you

22:07 of the drugs that are coming off patent, which means that now any generic or even a brand can be made of the same drug except they don't have to pay licensing fees. In this case Lipitor is Pfizer I believe So here it is, according to IBIS World industry research firm. Some of the blockbuster drugs whose patents expire this year are the cholesterol buster Lipitor and then we have Zyprexa We have some other antibiotics and other things but the big one is Lipitor. Lipitor is responsible for sales of Lipitor as discussed in this program In the United States alone is more than the entire gross revenue of the music business

22:52 Okay, just to give you that's a meal Lady Gaga Beatles back catalog everything all combined Lipitor outsells that so it's a big deal to Pfizer To keep lipitor somehow on the books or to be able to sell it as something new So I go and take a look at At this research done by Let me see the Association of Alzheimer's. This is the research that has being quoted in And I have to say it's unbelievable. No, I actually cannot believe that no one does this when they hear these reports like go read the report journalist is it that hard?

23:32 So it's a you can find it at neurology.org Association of Alzheimer disease pathology with abnormal lipid metabolism This is the hisayama study which is now being quoted everywhere in the presses as great news because we can stop you from being a demented babbling retarded idiot By giving your Lipitor and there's a little section called disclosure on the report now I It would take me 10 minutes to read the entire thing But let me highlight a couple of the researchers here.

24:11 It's all written together to the way you're doing that. Let me can I point something funny out? Please just ran into looking this up sure apparently in And this was I guess a lot there was a lot of news along these lines it in 2008 around the April time frame slew of Neurological studies came out and then I'll just read one headline which summarizes them all Lipitor no help for dementia of Alzheimer's patients Really? It says it right there. If you look up Alzheimer's with an S Lipitor, you will get a series of links mostly related to around 2008 saying this is bull crap and so they obviously just waiting for this the die down. Yeah they actually come out with hire some guys and come over the phony report

24:59 So here are the guys, and in this... so here's the main guy Dr. Kanba serves as a scientific advisor. These are his disclosure notes on this study just to let you know that besides doing this great study where it turns out that hey if you lower cholesterol you can reduce the entire risk of Alzheimer's and here is some other things I do Dr. Kamba serves on a scientific advisory board for Astellas Pharma Inc., has served on editorial advisory boards for Molecular Psychiatry, the Journal of Neuroscience, the Asian Journal of Psychiatry, blah-di-blah-da-blah, has received speaker honoraria from Janssen Shanghai Sumara Pharmaceuticals

25:38 and a couple more Japanese ones, and then it goes on... has served as consultant for Eli Lilly & Co., GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer Inc. Mitsubishi Tanabe Pharma Corporation, Onno Pharmaceutical Company And then it actually says has received research support! And has received research support from Eli Lilly & Co., GlaxoSmithKline, Pfizer Inc., Asaika-saikachuka-chuka-chaka-chuka-chakachataka So they paid for it!! Yeah, that's yeah apparently. I think these guys are really desperate but they're gonna try to pull something off before this thing fails in other words the patent runs out Well this is it! It runs out in November This is it! This is the one so they're trying to hype this up and you watch its getting legs because this a very popular drug soon will be available over-the-counter

26:32 So you won't even have to have a prescription for it. Oh really? Yeah man, people will just be buying that and popping it! Just poppin' Lipitor... Hey man ya got a Lipitor for me?! I know plenty of people this is what doctors do They go, uh, you're now 40 Mr Curry I'm sorry 47 yeah you really need to think about your cholesterol just in case let's give you some Lipitor Lots of people take this they've been scared into submission My doctor once pointed out to me over the years, he says he's always noticed that there is an acceptable level supposedly of cholesterol. He says over the last 25 years every two or three years it changes and they keep lowering it and lowering it to get more people into the fold of doping them up with Lipitor.

CHAPTER 09 / 41 Discussion

AttackWatch.com, Obama Campaign Anti-Smear Website

The Obama campaign launched AttackWatch.com, a website designed to counter political smears and misinformation. The site's red, black, and white color scheme drew comparisons to historical propaganda, while online critics and satirists released spoof videos mocking the site's reporting mechanism.

attackwatch.com· barack obama· roger black· rick perry· mitt romney· alex jones

27:30 No agenda producers keep your eye on this you'll be seeing plenty of news reports about this. Plenty of them so the thing I was going to mention earlier which is the attack watch found that seen a blog posting as a new did the anti smear yes Obama yes attack watch dot com is that what we're referring to know this with this was a different one but it's the same basic thing So they're already gearing us up for the fact that whatever anyone criticizes Obama, this one's actually an email list I subscribe to. That will give me quick alerts anytime there is a smear

28:11 that needs to be fought somehow by my posting things. Yeah, yeah no... If you go to attackwatch.com this is what everyone's talking about here well meanwhile we're cali-caliborting around with trannies in Brazil You know? We're actually paying attention. AttackWatch.com excuse me which is paid for by Obama4America join AttackWire help stop the attacks on the president before they start But another unfounded attack surfaces will arm you with the truth so you can share the facts with your friends and family. And then you go to AttackWatch.com, and it's a... It's kind of ominous. It's a black red and white website Look at this because a lot of people are saying that these are the colors of the Nazis which I found to be kinda interesting. They have a Twitter feed Opponents are using smears to undermine the success of President Obama's auto rescue Get the facts

29:09 Public figures weigh in without landish claims about President Obama's record on legal firearms. Get the facts! And by the way, for people who said that the red black and white color scheme they have to realize that one of the great graphic designers of the United States Roger Black Who did the Rolling Stone logo among other kind of fancy things. He's the one who has promoted this color scheme, not the Nazis! No maybe he was a Nazi...

29:47 it's and i don't think so so of course that happens to be very attractive what's kinda nice though is that people are taking a i think in a way acute it's probably uh... trend not the we're responsible for but people really uh... starting to do some fun things with this idiocy and they're starting to create from little little bits and stuff about this time they play the whole thing at the end of the show here someone who has made a spoof ad It's video, but the audio is pretty funny of Attack Watch. The newest campaign website to expose the right-wing lies about President Obama. Get acts! Fight the smears! AttackWatch.com is where you can report attacks on President Obama if you heard an ad on the radio or television If you saw a suspicious website...if you heard a friend spreading rumors let us know!

30:42 Rick Perry lied about the stimulus. Sure, the unemployment rate has gone up as a whole but come on think of how many more jobs Obama has saved! Attackwatch! Stop asking how you can measure saved jobs? Attackwatch It's not just attack watch it's attack watch dot com because normal websites put their full URL in their homepage banners. Attack Watch Romney blamed Obama It just goes on and on and on... But its cute Yeah, it's very funny. It sounds actually like some other broadcaster I've heard before um Who does prison planet? What's his name anyway uh yeah? Oh you mean Alex Jones doesn't sound like Alex Jones a little bit I Think he would be insulted That's my Alex Jones for today, let's think you should work on your Obama more

CHAPTER 10 / 41 Discussion

Mark Zandi, Moody's Analytics Jobs Plan Analysis

Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, released an analysis supporting the American Jobs Act, claiming it would add two percentage points to GDP growth. The discussion questions Zandi's background, noting his education at the Wharton School and his ancestral ties to the Zand dynasty of Iran.

mark zandi· moody's analytics· american jobs act· gdp· wharton school· zand dynasty

31:49 So, uh... so my son Buzzkill Jr. He sends me he was completely baffled by this and he doesn't know whether he got it from- he doesn't know what mailing list he got it from but it came from but is a mailing list thing because you know its to a lot of people and I didn't get one I don't know if you've got one no but it came from the Mac may, it's a macroeconomic research at moodys.com and he thinks it may have been... I think he signed up at whitehouse.gov if you didn't get though because I think you subscribe to White House. Yeah I've signed up all the whitehouse.gov stuff so I don't know what that is. Well I know he doesn't how he got this but Mark Zandi did an analysis of the Obama jobs plan and he's the chief economist at Moody's analytics

32:36 And he sent out this thing talking about why we should, you know... Why this jobs plan is so important. Including uh let me just read you the points they're stupid! President Obama's job proposal would help stabilize confidence and keep the U.S from sliding back into recession Really? Yeah right. It would do that magically. Magic! The plan would add 2% points to GDP growth next year, add 1.9 million jobs and cut the unemployment rate by percentage point? Uh-huh Okay How does that work? The plan would cost about $450 billion About 250 billion in tax cuts and 250 billion in spending increases How does that... Can you dissect that for me No I can't Actually I'm looking this guy's email was also published in Washington Post apparently

33:32 How does, can you dissect this? You get 250... You're gonna spend $450 billion and you're going to cut 250 billion in taxes and you're gonna spend more 200 billion more. That sounds like a negative number to me! Anyway, many of the President's proposals are unlikely to pass Congress but the most important have a chance of winning by... Most important. So this is going to be segmented? I don't know! This is the propaganda that people should be fighting. Well this is interesting. Mark Zandi was born in Atlanta

34:10 of Iranian descent and grew up in Radnor, Pennsylvania. He attended Upper Merion High School, earned his diploma, blah-blah-blah went to Wharton School of Business University of Pennsylvania which we know is where all the spooks are trained His surname of Zandi comes from the Zand dynasty which ruled southern and south central Iran in the 18th century he's an elite yeah by them but have the highest order Well, you know I think this is all mute. Or moot? Not mute. It's mute too! Wait a minute this is mute... I think it's all mute. Let me make a mute point here for a second This is all mute We gotta change this From moot to mute Richard Branson knows how to save us You ready for Richard Branson's plan The chairman of Virgin? Well if I was um

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Richard Branson, Job Sharing Economic Proposal

Virgin Group chairman Richard Branson proposed a solution to unemployment involving widespread job sharing and part-time work. Branson suggested that if 10-20% of the workforce worked 50% of the year, it would significantly reduce the unemployment rate and address social unrest.

richard branson· virgin group· unemployment· job sharing· part-time work

35:10 running America, I would make sure that the 10% of people who are out of work were given jobs. And the way I would do that was to say to companies get out there and talk to your workforce find out how many of them are willing to work at 50%, 50% of the year rather than 100 percent of the year. How many are willing to job share? how many more would be willing to go part-time and you will find that in every company there's something like 10 to 20 percent of the workforce who would actually like to work less hours they can afford to work less hours maybe because their partners working less hours is this guy already on the moon what planet are you from Branson

35:57 So he actually runs companies? Yeah, and he's like... You had a theory sometime back which I... That he does not. He runs nothing! Just the front man for God knows who. Yes! He was interviewed while promoting a new wristwatch That's why he was on television. He was promoting a new wristwatch, he is just the pitchman! The guy can't run anything I'm sorry... He may have been great and discovered Mike Oldfield and did two Biller Belles and all that maybe Boy George or call him one of his inventions but please it goes on it's insane he has no idea just had no idea And in that way you could share the amount of work there

36:39 take, I think as much as 7.5% of the unemployment problem off the streets and back into earning some money and that would deal with a lot of the problems of riots at the moment you've got people in America working 50 out 52 weeks working only getting 2 weeks holidays pretty miserable. That's so miserable! Maybe you should take more vacation this is Richard Branson's plan, take more vacation and we'll solve unemployment it's fantastic This is pretty miserable. That's a clip of the day you win again, that's the third show in a row. This is pretty miserable only two weeks vacation I think he should jump share. He sounds like some guy in Parliament who doesn't know what he's talking about You need to jump share! Jump share I tell ya! You can do with 50% of your money can't you? Jump Share Hey by the way...I just got my water and electricity bill for July and August Yeah did they screw ya?

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Utility Bill Discrepancy, California Public Utilities Commission

A host reports receiving a water and electricity bill for $1,400 despite being away from home for over five weeks with most appliances turned off. The incident is used to criticize the lack of oversight by the Public Utilities Commission and the perceived inaccuracy of utility usage estimates.

utility bills· smart meters· california· public utilities commission· texas

37:40 It's exactly the same as when I was living here two months prior. So now what course of action do I have? You were even there! That's what i'm saying, I wasn't here for almost six weeks... You were on the road in the RV. But I made sure everything was off The water was turned off, well not the mains but you know the pool refiller was off. I made sure that the air conditioner was off and the only thing that was running was the computer that runs the no agenda stream and my mail server computer everything else is off it's exactly the same so now what do i do?

38:22 I think you should go to the Public Utilities Commission and see what happens. Yeah, but let me give you some advance warning they don't do anything no utilities commissions in this country have been so defanged in every state and locality that it's laughable that they're still getting money we should they should all be fired but again that's what you should do It's ridiculous. To me this proves, and we don't have a smart meter yet but to me this proves they just slap whatever the average is give it to the guy and print it up on statement make little graph The usage! Its the same usage I'm gonna scan these documents I gotta publish them its infuriating because of course I have no discourse I've got no place to go No one's going to give crap about me But I am being ripped off seriously

39:13 And this was a test, remember we were talking about this like I can't wait to see what my bill's gonna be like. It is exactly the same! Yeah you were gone for five weeks More...five and a half Five and a half weeks Yeah you had plenty of buffer So it should have least been no more than 70% of the typical bill An here it is, its exactly the same Exactly the same 1400 bucks for two months of water & electricity Are you freaking kidding me? Really? Yeah. I mean, I might as well have a grow house! Yeah you might as well it's gonna be the same bill anyway. In fact i'm paying for a grow house and i'm surprised they're not knocking on my door to see if i'm growing something. Well we're moving and getting out of this godforsaken state very... What other corrupt state are you going to move to Texas

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Executive Producer Credits, Anonymous Donations

The show acknowledges financial support from executive producers, including an anonymous donor and Sir John Smith. The segment includes a brief reflection on the anniversary of September 11 and the current political climate regarding Ron Paul's candidacy.

mollywood· john smith· kate marengo· 9/11· ron paul

40:12 Yeah. The home of Katy Perry. Not Rick Perry, I'm sorry! At least Katy Perry will be president and we won't have to deal with him as governor that's the good news he'll be out let's thank some producers exactly How do we do today? So, besides Eric Lieb who will be an executive producer for Loaning, this is Studio. We start off with an anonymous donation not no location north of nowhere $421 and 24 cents in the morning Would in the whole G. Yeah, yeah people are getting hyped up about the Adam Curry Mollywood show in the morning wood That's right. Yeah. Oh in the morning would ya is that the name of it? That's great In the morning would calm. It's all good to go man Just please just read this as from anonymous no namer location Thanks donating you guys is like GMO crack I only wish I could do it more why we need more people like him hell. Yeah whoever he is and

41:15 Sir John Smith came in with a couple hundred bucks from, he's an associate executive producer and then Kate Marengo in Chicago also 200. And Smith says normally I have some smart-ass remark to make but today is just too depressing it's not just a sad day for those who died talking about 9 11 I suppose but tomorrow will mark the day of all that all of us become suspects I know some of us support Ron Paul, but please don't forget John and Adam. Didn't we get this last week? So not only are the donations weaker than last week were rereading them. Yeah, I just noticed that! I'm pretty sure we did it as well... Maybe John... maybe he did it again. And so that's all our producers for today No no no, that is not true. I have a Kate Marengo

42:06 You guys said Kate Marengo. I'm sorry, that's it no I back read I said John and then I went back and read his all right well there you go uh... of course we do appreciate that's what i get a lot our last show on sunday which was must have been a turkey since we had like a lot of executive producers and well anyway if you do appreciate the work they were doing there from any location in any state of mind or physical health devorah dot org slash n and uh... so john smith is right now he even if your sending money to your favorite political candidate uh... and makes it tougher

CHAPTER 14 / 41 Discussion

Domain Name Registrations, Attack Vector Dashboard

Listeners registered several domain names related to recent show topics, including "Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications" and "Attack Vector Dashboard." The latter refers to a concept mentioned by former Federal CIO Vivek Kundra, which the hosts joke could be a corporate IT product.

hillary clinton· vivek kundra· silicon valley· attack vector dashboard· dark souls

42:43 You know what you should do? You should just take more vacation, listen to Richard Branson. Work half time and send more money to us so we can continue to work more and watch more C-SPAN for ya! Couple of PR efforts that did come in which are always fun a couple of domain names that are forwarding to no agenda show calm uber dark souls calm Adam you probably won't understand what this is about but there is a video game called Dark Souls and I was gonna build a website for him, but decided not to so I'm just gonna forward this domain to you uber dark souls calm and Then we have some pretty fun ones. Pete Dobson clearly listened to the last show, we really do appreciate that. Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications dot com... Hey! You know were going to get in trouble over that one. Someone's gonna be like, um Ms Clinton? Ms Clinton? Lucifer? We need to register our domain names but Center for Strategic Counterterrorism Communications dot com has been taken

43:45 As has digitaloutreachteam.com, which I think is just about the best URL i've heard in the past couple of months Which is Hillary's name for her techno experts? Yeah no, I think we should actually turn that into something A money making scheme! That's my idea. Yeah okay another money-making scheme great Deceiveus.com now forwarding to a no agenda show very good have camera will fire calm which is good like that And this oh, yeah Jeff Yerke comes in he slides in home with attack vector dashboard comm there's our product John we have the domain name We just need to make up the product

44:32 Well, why don't we get some funding first? Yeah. Let's talk to some VC. Hey John... Oh you know there is a CIA VC down in Silicon Valley and we can talk to them. Hey John Doerr listen I got a great idea it's called the TAC Vector Dashboard We think all Fortune 500 should have one because Vivek Kundra said so. Our marketing materials can even be, as the great Vivek Kundra once said attack vector dashboards are the future of corporate IT get yours now from Curry Dvorak Enterprises Inc Scott McKenzie wants us to know that One Day in Gitmo Nation has just been released as a special limited edition hardback

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No Agenda Bingo, One Day in Gitmo Nation

The release of a limited edition hardback of "One Day in Gitmo Nation" is announced, with proceeds benefiting the show. Additionally, a listener-created website, noagendabingo.com, is highlighted as a way for fans to track recurring show tropes and catchphrases.

no agenda bingo· lulu.com· nate in new york· scott mckenzie· brazil

45:17 And you can buy this from lulu.com, the price is $33.33 or of course you can get it from noagendanovels.com 66% of the proceeds goes to the show so we highly appreciate that and it will only be available for the last 111 days of this year You think he's into numerology somehow? I think he has one too many numerological gimmicks, but you never know. If you can't have too many... When i got this great email from Nate in New York who said that he was shocked to learn there was a No Agenda Bingo game mentioned on last Thursday show! Shocked I tell you! Especially since I actually programmed one and put one up a few months back but never actually took the time to write it and tell you Yeah that would not be the way to promote things Nate

46:11 But anyway, noagendabingo.com is actually really good. You should check it out John. It's nice because it has the layout of the board and it has the rules right there on the left and its called No Agendo But it has it hasn't it has a I was looking at on this Brazilian computer, and I was thinking wow they translate stuff But let me just give you an idea of some of the things You could cross off if you were playing during today's show the word nights Pre-roll trains good planes bad phone rings in background. Let's see This is not just things we say but things that happen Mickey in background you could cross that one off a Dvorak wine tip

46:56 Adam way late with sound clip thanks hey you got that one hate non bill Mayer over modulated Dvorak saying it's an outstanding product Adam looks up word the vorac mispronounces vegan the vorax loud keyboard the vorac hates the cloud there's a lot of the war act here the hatin on joy Behar I think just randomize the board you can get more hating on Nancy Pelosi hating on San Francisco is good. It's very very funny And you can also and of course there's a donate link Right there on that on the page, so I think that's very cool We appreciate everything you guys do I know it's a weird time of the year everyone's getting back to work Everyone's gettin back to Getting back to school or whatever you're doing or getting back to 50% of your job and

47:54 Please do continue to think of the work that we're doing because it is all we do except for John apparently who can take these nice little strolls down to South America to go tranny hunting That's Mickey saying what nothing so Okay, so once I'm a little disappointed DeVorek org slash in a Channel of org comm slash na Dvorak. I'm sorry no agenda nation calm and no agenda show dot-com are places where people can go to help us out because I think they need it Think we need a little uh, I don't know if maybe nobody listened to the last show was there a holiday? I think there was a few weeks ago. Not sure yeah, so we do thank our executive producer anonymous

CHAPTER 16 / 41 Discussion

IBM Watson, Cleverbot AI Trust Issues

IBM's Watson computer, famous for winning Jeopardy, has been contracted by health insurer Wellpoint to assist doctors with diagnoses. The hosts compare this to "Cleverbot" and express concern that the public is being conditioned to trust AI systems for medical and environmental policy decisions.

ibm watson· cleverbot· jeopardy· wellpoint· health insurance· expert systems

48:38 and shall be listed as anonymous so if your name is anonymous you can list this as a credit I'm sure a lot of people put this now on their IMDB. And our associate executive producers John Smith, Sir John Smith and Kate Marengo we do highly appreciate you checking in helping us out and of course if you have anything you'd like to do to help out you can always propagate our formula Our formula is this We go out...we hit people in the mouth Here's one for the Red Book. A lot of people nailed this, The Watson, the Jeopardy computer as predicted is set to announce a deal for the Health Insure Wellpoint that they will be using the Jeopardy computer

49:42 a number crunching to help suggest treatment options and diagnoses to doctors. And the only thing we're waiting for next is for IBM's Watson Jeopardy computer to predict global warming trends, and this is actually it's just this is a very disturbing trend have you seen this on Crap I forgot to write it. It's just it's the thing is new Is this they won some contest some kids put together a computer and you can talk to it? And you can type in stuff, and it uses it learns like from other conversations as having with people are you aware of this

50:21 No I've only heard this all my life by the way. Well, well what's bad is it? It's like Come on someone in the chat room will know what this thing is called But I'm hearing people whose kids are like on it for you know hours at a time Just like talking to it and and I tried it You know it comes up with clever bot that's what it is Thank You chat room home on a second Cleverbot Cleverbot. I don't know if its cleverbot calm But even some of our producers were saying, yeah here cleverbot.com Even some of our producers were saying their kids are on it So let's ask you the question here What is the no agenda show? Let me see what it comes up with okay It's thinking and Okay a star in the north great

51:16 What? I said, what is the no agenda show and it says a star in the north. What?! Yeah that's what is says! Let me do shut up slave let see what comes back with... Shut Up Slave It should talk..I guess there isn't That isn't nice language I guess if you get the Android or iPhone app it'll actually talk to you. But anyway, I think it's a bad idea that people are... This is a piece of crap to come up with this answer! Yeah What does the NOAA agenda show? A star in the north It's bad Let me see By the way another computer in the same office here Yeah It says uh.. It's the opposite of the southern hemisphere

52:01 That's really weird. Same question. Oh check this out! You'll love this, I gotta take a screenshot Who is John C. Dvorak? Answer... Leader of the Resistance Hold on i'm taking a screen shot of that Yeah you better save that one Wait let me try me now When I got it because I didn't use caps It says I'll ask the questions around here oh really well I'm taking a screenshot of that first That's pretty funny Okay, this is a high as the other computer. Oh Let me just take that now now let me do yeah, it's a winner Yeah, who your machine is better than ours and was Adam Curry oh Boy, let's see what we come up with no it has to think a long time about this question apparently I don't know I Don't know

52:54 Okay, I'm done with that. Thank you Actually mine is more elaborate it says I don't know who is Adam Taurus So as I said this is a bad development the people are starting to trust these stupid-ass machines But of course Watson was promoted as a Jeopardy winner and that's why it's smart And so now here's what I guess oh maybe I should ask the clever bot What can prevent Alzheimer's so while you're doing that when I did. I put in you are an idiot and it came back with you are It is like a ten-year old, so I'm pretty sure that this brilliant machine Watson is going to Stupid answer is going to start saying they why no would be really good lipitor Lipitor Lipitor And people will believe it because he had the thing one on jeopardy This is very very dangerous precedent That's being set

54:04 Well, whether it actually won on Jeopardy is still another issue that we've discussed before. But the fact is they have a deal with the healthcare provider which we predicted this was a new way of getting... We had these before they were called expert systems and there were a lot of medical expert systems and they're supposed to replace nurses and they kind of fell out of vogue, and fell out a favor. So they had to re-ignite... And they already had the code so they had to reinvigorate the market. And so they came up with this Watson scheme which is one of the most clever public relations stunts that you'll ever see in your life! Good work boys! Let's ask one more who was John Galt? Gotta be my favorite I have no idea Of course not! You're part of The New World Order

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Daily Source Code, Adam Curry Podcast Update

Adam Curry addresses listener inquiries regarding the frequency of his "Daily Source Code" podcast. He notes that the show is currently produced on an irregular basis as it is a non-commercial venture compared to other projects.

daily source code· adam curry· horowitz· podcasting

54:51 by Ayn Rand. Any excuse? Yeah, any excuse... You created your own excuse to play that clip I did! I hope you're very happy So uh.. you didn't do a show with um By the way we got one question right on these machines What's that Who is Barack Obama the US President Oh whoo-oot Isn't that weird? Did you or you didn't do a show with Horowitz did ya This week? No. Because I missed it. No, no. I tell you what...I like that show! Yeah, a lot of people like that show they really get mad at us when we don't do it. Yeah, that's the daily source code It's like I haven't done in awhile and people are like ehhhhhh Like I got time You know not everyone is paying me to do it

CHAPTER 18 / 41 Discussion

European Austerity Measures, Italian Protests

Protests erupted in Rome and Madrid as European governments passed strict austerity measures to combat the Eurozone debt crisis. In Italy, Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's government survived a confidence vote while implementing tax hikes and raising the retirement age for women to 65.

silvio berlusconi· rome· greece· madrid· austerity· equal rights amendment

55:44 And I don't think you're getting paid for Horowitz's show, are you? You guys don't make any money on that. No, it's killing me! I wish people would donate more to the NO Agenda Show and then i wouldn't be complaining so much But of course there is a lot going on in Europe and I would like to make a prediction about that but first we need to do a quick round and see what's happening because we've got more riots going on in Greece big ones actually which you're not seeing on television we have teachers protesting in Madrid and of course the Roman slaves are also not too happy Italy's fragile coalition government has lived to see another day and the country is set for a further bout of austerity after the Parliament passed the government latest plan

56:26 The much altered measures are aimed at putting the brakes on the debt crisis threatening the whole Eurozone. The vote in the lower house was effectively a vote of confidence in Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's government, it survived but the mixed package of tax hikes and spending cuts designed to balance the budget has exposed deep divisions in the ruling coalition Deep divisions too in the streets of Rome, where anger over the final votes brought clashes between protesters and riot police. Some demonstrators hurled smoke bombs as hundreds of people marched near the parliament Resign, they shouted at the politicians. Earlier one former member of Berlusconi's coalition who voted in favor of the measures was heckled as he appeared in the crowd The trouble illustrates the tension the austerity plan has brought European institutions though will be watching to see whether the government has the stomach to implement the measures it's passed So I want to make a prediction about what is going to happen to Europe but first we do have one listener in Italy

57:28 Who producer I should say and a donor not a boner my sister willow How sad is that your sister has to support you? Well somebody's got it really pathetic. Hi there still haven't finished Sunday's episode It's a long one, but I thought it'd give you some extra details on austerity measures in Bunga bungaland And I think she got a kick out of the monga bonga title for our last show So here it is, the austerity measures. One, the higher retirement age for women means that it will become the same as for men. Up until now, men retired at 65 and women at 60 so it only means that it will be the same age for women as for men which to me still means go work bitch! Am I wrong?

58:16 That's what it sounds like to you know by the way this sort of thing is the reason and a lot of people don't seem To realize this in United States that the Equal Rights Amendment never passed Because it was basically just it wasn't gonna give anybody any more rights than they have I was gonna screw The females right well, this is exactly so yeah. This is the same thing Congratulations women of Italia you will need to work five years longer. That's a big deal actually I mean most that if right most countries like you know give you two extra years. We have it here in the states, don't we? 67 hasn't been raised now Is that now official? I don't think so. No, it's still 65. Okay. I think it's still 65. Two the solidarity tax which is a great name let's be... Let's have solidarity It's 3% for those who would have an income above 300 thousand euros however only 35000 Italians declare to earn more than three hundred thousand euros uh-huh

59:18 Yeah, yeah The whole financial package chain was changed about six or seven times putting things in taking things out But I seriously doubt it will take any good and make any good It's the corruption down to the bone. That is the ruin of Italy She says have a good one mega love Willow. No, well, we certainly appreciate that she's so funny You can't bring her down. She's always positive Hey really sucks Have a nice day my sister for you So here's my prediction I've and and if this prediction does not come true it will severely alter my entire Vision of the world so this is a big one. It is my prediction based upon remember we had those quotes On the last show John yeah, you really don't remember do you know? I don't remember much Lipitor

CHAPTER 19 / 41 Discussion

European Union Power Consolidation, Romano Prodi Quote

A 2001 quote from former EU Commission President Romano Prodi is used to argue that the current Greek debt crisis is being leveraged to centralize financial power in Brussels. The prediction suggests that EU member states will eventually cede sovereignty over taxation and wages to avoid economic depression.

romano prodi· european union· brussels· greece· central taxation· financial times

1:00:19 It's if it wasn't true I wouldn't be laughing now we had the quotes from the European Union and I'm actually gonna look up the one that I read specifically from a prote who was the The president, I think of the Commission in 2001 is this ringing a bell for you now? No. Oh yeah Okay So here was his quote Here it is hold on a second I am sure the euro will oblige us to introduce a new set of economic policy instruments. It is politically impossible to propose that now, but someday there will be a crisis and new instruments will be created." Romano Prodi, EU Commission President stated in The Financial Times on December 4th 2001. It is my belief John that because basically what people are talking about now is Greece gets kicked out of the Union

1:01:15 That's one. And good riddance to you, two Greece defaults which of course would be very difficult because then who is next on the list? But I think really what is going to happen is that more power in fact local financial power and sovereignty if you will is going to be handed over to Brussels And all of these governments are going to say, look here's your choices. Either we descend into a depression worse than the hunger winter after the second world war or

1:01:55 We give these lovely people in Brussels who really want to help us all this power and centralized taxation, centralized wage prices, centralized so like minimum wage as centralized benefits. I think this is it! This is the crisis that they're going to use to really make a United States of Europe And that would make so much sense as the plan that the elites have had since 1960, 1956 I believe this thing has been building. They're not just gonna let this over...I think it's set up! I actually believe that the Greek crisis if by some means it might have been

CHAPTER 20 / 41 Discussion

George Papandreou, Greek Prime Minister Background

Greek Prime Minister George Papandreou's American roots are examined, noting he was born in St. Paul, Minnesota, and educated at Harvard and the London School of Economics. His background as a fellow at the Center for Foreign Relations leads to speculation about his role in the Eurozone crisis.

george papandreou· greece· st. paul minnesota· harvard university· council on foreign relations· cia

1:02:39 natural progression but they were waiting for it and Germany up front I think Germany's been really ready. They're gonna have a lot of power and they're gonna run the show but it's going to be give up your rights, give up your sovereignty let us do all the taxing central we have to save you that's what I think is going to happen How about this for an idea? The whole Greek thing was set up from the beginning to do this. Yeah! And the deal was you guys go along with the program, we'll bail you out You'll be the first to get bailed out so resist as much as you can don't pay attention anything We do and then trust us Well it certainly seems that way because all these guys are still doing fine and by the way is Papi on Papa duo It's in American From Minnesota Minnesota and he speaks fluent fluent American

1:03:31 American English, unlike me obviously. With a great accent and he was educated wasn't he? Was he educated in why do I want to say Philadelphia actually? Let's look him up how you spell his last name? Hold on a second Greek Prime Minister Here we go How'd even pronounce his last name George Papandreou there you go George Papandreou, I'm looking at the...

1:04:07 Look at the book of knowledge. I'm looking at the Book of Knowledge Early life born in st.. Paul, Minnesota United States like a guy yeah there you go he looks like He when you see his picture It just looks like some guy that that used to sell cars or he ran a car dealership Or easy just Hey hey hey, I got a Chevy for you You're gonna love it son He was born in St. Paul, Minnesota United States this is very I'm liking where we're going with this John Where his father Andreas Papandreou held a university's post His mother is American-born Margaret Papandreou actually Chante as her maiden name educated at schools in Toronto At Amherst College in Massachusetts Stockholm University the London School of Economics and Harvard University he was a fellow of the ohhh A fellow of the Foreign Relations Center

1:05:06 Harvard University let's see skull and bones I bet you was sculling bones is that Harvard as I thought Yale was skull and bones oh I'm sorry that's right yeah he's the harvard's got some other club i can't remember the cloak-and-dagger or something like that right right Oh Papa Andrea was elected to the Greek Parliament in 81 the year after his father became Prime Minister for the constituency of Asia Now this is clearly, he may be the Manchurian candidate. He's a blant! Yeah we may have been looking at Obama all this time but this guy is actually it. Hmm... Papandreou like all other political leaders was unwilling to make concessions on Greece's fundamental position that Cyprus must be reunited and accept that could not lead to a status quo ante. Keep your eye on this guy well

1:06:08 So are you kind of agreeing with me or are you just going along with my... No I'm totally in agreement but there's obviously another dimension to this guy. He either works for Obama, he works for the United States interest, he is a CIA guy possibly Whatever the case is he's in there, but he may be maybe on you don't know whose side He's on I mean the fact that they let in a country go to the toilet And they're gonna soak the EU. Maybe he's the point man for sinking the EU on behalf of the United States I mean that would make a lot of sense to me when you think and it would be a good way to go But when you think about it Somebody's got to do it I know it but it makes a lot of sense right because if it's kind of a small or smallish kind of insignificant country

CHAPTER 21 / 41 Discussion

German Influence, EU Deficit Sinner Flags

German EU Commissioner Gunther Oettinger suggested that the national flags of bailed-out member states should be flown at half-mast at EU buildings. This "deficit sinner" symbol reflects the growing tension between Germany and struggling economies like Greece as the debt crisis impacts global markets.

germany· gunther oettinger· greece· deficit sinners· stock market

1:06:49 Everyone in there has already got their money offshore anyway ie Cyprus. That's where all the Russian money is It's people still go on vacation they're still a great spot, you know it's like not like people don't love the country anymore I mean so write it down on the red book. I think I think I really what would do What do you want me to write in the Red Book that? Okay, specifically that the European debt crisis is going to be resolved by more financial political power going to Brussels. Oh no I got that already written! That's already in. When did you put it in? It's a specific thing about Greece

1:07:35 Well yeah, so Greece is not going to default. Greece is not going to be kicked out of the Union but this what everyone is talking about all the mainstream media saying well you know we're gonna kick them out I'm just not buying it I'm not buying it. There's something funny though... I would almost take a different tact on this to counter what you said, but the last time that i did that I lost in an painful way. Let me give you an idea of the hubris of the Germans who will wind up running the entire show which is what they've always wanted sorry Gitmo Nation Deutschland but this is what your elites want Germany's European Commissioner

1:08:16 has said, or as it states here in the article has lent his voice demanding national flags of all bailed out European member states be flown at half-mast at EU buildings to show that you're a loser. Wow! Gunther Oettinger told German media last Friday the move would be quote a big deterrent to those countries which he called deficit sinners wow good that's a good show title deficit sinners who cannot keep control of their financial affairs, although he admitted it would just be a symbol. Right? Well this has got to resolve itself within the next 30 days This can't keep going on like this For one thing it's screwing up the US stock market like there is no tomorrow And then the fact that Chinese keep jumping into the game trying to fool us It makes it even worse and sillier

CHAPTER 22 / 41 Discussion

Brazil Economy, Airport Conveyor Belt Anecdote

Despite Brazil's status as a rising "BRIC" economy, observations from the Brasilia airport suggest systemic inefficiencies. An anecdote describes airline employees using luggage conveyor belts as a primary means of personal transportation within the terminal.

brazil· brasilia· tam airlines· brick nations· foreign investment

1:09:16 Yeah, and wasn't there also. There was a report out here that Brazil is now gonna jump in and save Europe Did you hear this I haven't heard that yeah? Yeah, it's like Brazil have a Brazilian sitting here with me And he just grimaced yeah shook his head Apparently no is the answer to that one. Yeah, no apparently This all over the news Like, yeah Brazil's gonna come in. Well they're wrong! I'm in Brazil and I've seen no evidence of this Yeah the Brazilians are like, don't worry we'll come in with a house How is Brazil doing economy wise? The Brazilians aren't going to do that What?! How is it? Yeah its good there isn't Brazil one of the brick nations everyone's doing great Have you ever looked up the definition of house of cards? Gotcha That bad huh

1:10:02 Well, let's put it this way. The traffic is really bad and when I go to the airport I see a lot of people standing around doing nothing but they're getting paid a lot of money in fact the funny thing was at one airport in Brasilia and you know all those moving conveyor belts are all over the place that suck the luggage right? So all the people working behind the counters at TAM and most of the other airlines stand on the things to go from place-to-place. They use it as a human like elevator or kind of a subway system

1:10:39 They're so lazy there that they don't even want to walk anymore? So, they jump up on the conveyor belt and they go down where they are supposed to go. And then they jump off and then they want to come back...and they walk on the conveyor belts, they dance on the conveyor belts it's ridiculous! In the United States it would all be you know, there'd be all kinds of health or safety code violations. They use the conveyor belts for everything but mostly to transport themselves around in the airport It's hilarious! It's quite funny to watch That's cool But, I don't know. You know, I've been here before and it's a little more... the energy level is up but i don't know how they can sustain what's going on most of what's going on here at foreign investments which is keeping everybody busy but you know that can stop. I do have one anecdote. I had dinner last night with someone that used to work for the big Chinese

CHAPTER 23 / 41 Discussion

Huawei Business Practices, Chinese Management Style

A report on the business tactics of Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei claims the company aggressively undercuts competitors like Ericsson by 30%. The discussion also touches on the difficult working conditions and "mean-spirited" management style attributed to the firm.

huawei· ericsson· cisco· china· brazil· management

1:11:34 China. Router company, Huawei whatever they are and which is a huge it's H-U-A-W-E-I I think is the spelling. He's worked there for a while and what I heard on the show floor was interesting from a guy who is a consultant For American guy was a consultant in Brazil. He said that Huawei's main way of doing business is like they'll follow an Ericsson salesman around And then go visit right after Erikson shows up and says whatever Ericsson's bid was will do it for 30% less Really?

1:12:11 Whatever cost even if Erickson comes in at bare bones bottom. They're losing money on the deal they'll do it for 30% less Chinese are up to and The guy though that I had the dinner with he said that The company's so it's a real slick operation, I mean this their biggest I think they're getting as big or bigger than Cisco He says that they're so miserable to work for because they have that standard, you know really bad Chinese management style where they yell at you and throw things at ya. I don't know if you've seen it in a Chinese restaurant? Yeah, I've seen in a Mevio once in awhile. You see it where? At Mevio!

CHAPTER 24 / 41 Discussion

Rhinoceros Poaching, Chinese Traditional Medicine

Conservationist Lawrence Anthony, known as the "Elephant Whisperer," reports that rhinoceroses are being killed in Africa at a rate of one every twenty hours. The poaching is driven by the high demand for rhino horn in China, Vietnam, and Cambodia, where it is used for traditional medicinal purposes.

lawrence anthony· rhinoceros· china· south africa· baghdad zoo· poaching

1:12:51 Yeah, well I said worse. And so he doesn't think they have a long-term you know because it's so bad but I mean such a mean company means spirited company but these Chinese are just pretty much tearing apart the world with their way of doing business It's funny it's funny you bring that up yesterday and I haven't published the interview yet I interviewed Lawrence Anthony Have ever heard of this guy? Lawrence Anthony He's known as the Elephant Whisperer. He wrote a book in 2004-2005, his first book was called Babylon's Ark. He is the guy that went to the Baghdad Zoo in 2003 after we started bombing and went to save the animals. Oh thats right! So he was born in South Africa and he started this conservation reservation called Thula Thula

1:13:45 And so yeah, he was on the big book show right for the Big App Show. So I interviewed him and interesting book and the guy's a nutball because he like you know He now actually like licks elephants and they love him for it. So he's being a fearless guy in his next book will be about rhinoceros and uh... and he told me because of course now i can't do the show you know i i have been garnered the knowledge is a million chinese in the congo we know that there were thirty thousand chinese evacuated from uh... from uh... from my libya the minute to that started heat up and he says at the chinese are all over africa and they're killing rhinoceros at the rate of one every twenty hours

1:14:29 And I'm like, you know so my question was yeah alright and it's for the horn right this rhinoceros horn and these things are can be four feet long John. I don't know how much they weigh But he told me that you know it's the Chiners who use this rhinoceros horn dust For stomach ailments, and he said the price is now equal to the price of gold So I'm thinking if you got one rhinoceros How heavy could a rhinoceros tusk B? I don't know it's got to weigh a lot. Let me see how heavy is a rhinoceros horn? We just calculate the value of course it's not going to say that, I don't think uh...I wish they would say that but if it's four feet long then things gotta be pretty heavy so you know one rhinoceros toss could be like a couple million bucks

1:15:32 And I said, so can we just blame the Chinese? His response was pretty funny. Absolutely! Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodians... They're killing them all and they will not be remembered for anything but for killing animals for mythical properties So I had a lunch of my week or two ago with someone who listens to the show and I've called him an economic hitman before, he says I'm crazy but this is all ideas bogus. But he used to work for USAID and he's lived in 90 different countries and you know just as normal person

CHAPTER 25 / 41 Discussion

Chinese Resource Extraction, Congo Rare Earth Minerals

An estimated five million Chinese nationals are reportedly active in the Congo, building infrastructure to facilitate the extraction of critical minerals. The Congo holds significant deposits of rare earth elements and cobalt, which are essential for the production of modern electronics like the iPhone.

congo· china· usaid· rare earth elements· cobalt· iphone

1:16:09 So, uh... he told me as I was asking him some stuff because he has stories to tell about China. By the way it's five million Chinese in the Congo Really? If you want if you want to know the facts man Those fuckers replicate fast this is only a year ago what are they doing there were only 50 of them like less than 10 years ago They have also built something like 9000 miles of roads Right In the Congo their goal there is to rape the country of every mineral. Apparently, the Congo is one of the richest states in Africa and it happens to have something like 40 of the 50 or 60 critical rare earth elements that you...in fact your iPhone would not exist if it wasn't for the Congo

1:16:59 And so the Chinese are gonna take every piece of, you know every amount of cobalt and everything else they can get out of the country with their uh...you know and just basically take everything leave the roads and let them deteriorate. They don't care! And go on to the next project and I guess in the meantime they might as well knock off a few rhinos while there at it it. And now I don't want to sound like a jingoist here and again complaining about the Chinese but did you know there's, I think that a lot of the activity going on that the Chinese are behind needs to really be a question by the UN or by us I think they need to be ridiculed, not just questioned. We just need to make fun of them. Well, I think that's one good way to do it. Make fun of their small penises... With Asian cultures let's take a look at this idea of ridiculing for one thing they don't appreciate and they resist it but what kind of great job have we done ridiculing the Japanese about their whaling practices? They almost wiped out the blue whale right and they still don't give a crap about it! Right

1:18:00 So ridicule doesn't necessarily work. Well no one's ridiculing the Chinese or Chiners for the rhinoceros, no one talks about that No, I've never heard it until you just brought it up. I have my Chinese data about what's going on in the Congo and other places from my friend but I didn't hear anything about the rhino horns but if they're that valuable yeah What they do is sometimes knock their rhino down and saw off the horn Yeah oh no! They chop it out actually because it goes underneath the skin So here's one other thing which I thought was interesting news because George Clooney might as well go home

CHAPTER 26 / 41 Discussion

Elephant Intelligence, Sudan Migration Patterns

Elephants in the Sudan demonstrated remarkable intelligence by migrating from the south to the north at the onset of war and returning immediately after a peace agreement was signed. Researchers believe elephants use subsonic stomach vibrations to communicate across hundreds of kilometers.

elephants· sudan· migration· subsonic communication· animal behavior

1:18:39 So elephants are so smart and he says that they can communicate over hundreds of kilometers through these subsonic Stomach vibrations they make but you know, they can actually communicate with another herd That's a hundred or two hundred miles away. And then they can communicate with the next ones These elephants are so smart that when, because this guy also has worked in the Sudan. Remember when the peace agreement was signed between North and South Sudan? This was what I don't know how many years ago like a while ago like eight years ago maybe something like that before they split off as two separate countries that's for sure right so when the revolution when the war started i should say all the elephants left south sudan and migrated to north sudan

1:19:23 And the day after, and they were like 400 kilometers away from the border. The day after the peace agreement was signed they migrated back So I said to him... What are you reading? The New York Times?! I guess so! So I said we need to keep our eye on these elephants because if it starts to heat up over there and they leave again then we know this heavy shit coming down. And the guy said absolutely You can trust the elephants Absolutely I'm all over that Why do you use the subsonic frequencies and there's a lot of communications that take place between animals using the earth as the carrier instead of this, the open skies.

CHAPTER 27 / 41 Discussion

Ivar Giaver, American Physical Society Resignation

Nobel Prize-winning physicist Dr. Ivar Giaver resigned from the American Physical Society in protest of the organization's stance on man-made global warming. Giaver specifically objected to the use of the word "incontrovertible" to describe the evidence for climate change.

ivar giaver· nobel prize· american physical society· global warming· al gore

1:20:06 And I and it's been discussed it in the US government And there's a number of professors around the country that have talked about the possibility Of rigging something up that you stick a stake in the ground Like I could stick a stake in the ground here, and then send you the Skype transmission Through the earth. It would actually sound better No doubt about it Hold on a second John, I got it While we're on the topic of biodiversity some breaking news came in. The Nobel Prize winner for physics and 1973 Dr. Ivar Giaver, yeah I guess it'll be Javier Java resigned as he a no it's giever giaver giever giver yeah giver ever give her hey everybody I've heard you were here how you doing

1:21:05 He resigned as fellow from the American Physical Society on the 13th in disgust over the group's promotion of man-made global warming fears. Now this is a guy who endorsed President Obama. Another global warmist turned against the movement? Yeah, well it's about one word in particular and you know how much we love words here on The No Agenda Podcast. Uh he says I resigned from APS Thank you for your letter inquiring about my membership. I did not renew it because I cannot live with APS's statement about global warming as below the evidence is incontrovertible that's what Al Gore says too he has used that word incontrovertible

1:21:57 No, you can't really say that word but incontrovertible adjective not able to be yes. No it's better not able to be denied or disputed incontrovertible proof So that's our new word of the day incontrovertible I'm putting it in the red book as a new meme That's gonna that's gonna come out I did find it kind of interesting you have this... Memes that are hard to pronounce when you're drunk are no good. Yeah, I really got a laugh out of this Survivors Network against uh i guess it's against pedophilia snap they're suing the pope and they're suing him in the international criminal court

CHAPTER 28 / 41 Discussion

Syrian Opposition, Exxon-Putin Deal Impact

The geopolitical focus on Syria appears to have shifted following a major deal between ExxonMobil and Russia's Vladimir Putin. The discussion suggests that Russia's opposition to UN resolutions has slowed international intervention, leading to the formation of a transitional national council.

syria· russia· vladimir putin· exxonmobil· united nations· nato

1:22:58 And like how funny has the world become when we have a fictional representative of God in a fictional court representing the world suing each other? How nuts has it gotten. They're trying to get some money out of the church, try to see if they got any money. Oh no oh it's definitely about getting money definitely about that So uh have you seen this story about Syrian opposition creates national council I'm of the opinion that the Syria thing has been turned off by, according to the New York Times. But there's still this boiling simmering going on in Syrian opposition against National Council? Well i think what happened is in the UN

1:23:43 The Russians said, yeah hold on a second we don't want to sign any document like the resolution 1970-1973 which enabled NATO to go in and drop 30 thousand bombs which you've never seen on television. The Russians said were going to check it out So the Russians are in there and I think what may be happening is they said, why don't you just set up a council one of these TNC things transitional blotty blotty blot will sound good. And then we'll kind of smooth things over that's what it sounds like to me. That could be. I know somethings going on thats just gonna stop it cold

1:24:24 What's it seems to be kind of on a hold and I think that maybe every the Russians are behind it. I mean, as obvious the Russians have been complaining about number of things and ever since that zero that I'm sorry that Exxon deal went through right which had this would showed us the president of of Exxon, the CEO of Exxon shaking hands with Putin. Yeah it's not really supposed to be the guy that does these deals and since that moment all this stuff settled down. All of a sudden Syria is off the table Everything got really quiet I agree and i think maybe the focus now was on you know its Europe turn to be in the news little bit they gotta...I can't wait! You know? It's gonna happen slaves of Europe Slaves, slaves of Europe you have a choice

CHAPTER 29 / 41 Discussion

Solyndra Loan Investigation, Department of Energy Hearing

Congressional hearings investigated the $535 million government loan to the failed solar company Solyndra. Representatives Griffin and Murphy grilled Jonathan Silver of the Department of Energy regarding the decision to subordinate taxpayer money to private investors during the company's restructuring.

solyndra· department of energy· barack obama· c-span· loan guarantee· bankruptcy

1:25:10 Either you can go into a dire situation like the hunger winter of 1945 to 1949 or You can let us take care of all of your taxation and all of your financial troubles. That is all I think that's where we're headed Yeah, you need a little more echo in that well I did you know you I did the reverb uh um? You can't hear it through Skype But it was there it sounded really kind of ominous So the Solyndra drama continues here in the United States of Gitmo Nations. And this is a company, the solar power company that received a little over half-a-billion dollars in government loans

1:25:55 And of course, unfortunately it turns out that some executives from the company also supported President Obama in his presidential run. So it all looks kind of shady. Yes! It does... The Republicans are of course grasping onto this but they did actually find something there two representatives Griffin and Murphy who I'm going to play short clips from And they are a grilling the the guy he has a weird title his name is silver Oh Silver and He has the ominous title of being charged of government loans not a good place to be right now so Griffin comes out, and he actually finds that they've made a law The Department of Energy guys from Department energy. They've made a law that basically says

1:26:46 Well, he'll explain it exactly. I'm concerned about this is situation but i would point out in paragraphs one and two it references that no guarantee shall be made unless which gives some flexibility but in paragraph three of section 1702 it says the obligation shall be subject to condition that the obligation is not subordinate to other financing Let's just explain subordinate for a moment, for those of you who don't know. If you have a company and you take financing like either it is for shares or it is straight up loan, subordinate means that if more money comes in that loan has to be paid back first and I do not think there is any investment ever done that I can imagine John, you might correct me on this

1:27:36 Where someone gives a loan and says, but you know what? If you get more money if you borrow more money from somebody. You can pay them back first I don't think that happens Well, that would happen with specialized vehicles where you have like you issue stock or bonds certain kinds of convertible debentures or something that are so dissimilar that you could find somebody in a preferred situation. So yeah it could but this doesn't sound like that. Let's put it this way if you and I were running the government and in charge of the slaves tax money would we put our slaves' tax money in danger like that?

1:28:16 Well, this is a current administration might yeah. Have you read the memorandum of law on this? I have not read the full memorandum No But I've but I've been briefed like would it shock you to know that if you read it and you pay attention To what's being said and I have it right here be happy to give you a copy with my notes on it If you want them It looks like it's a Law School project where you're told to come up with an answer Here's the question give me the right answer defend it the best you can that's what it looks like because under this analysis What it says is that if we close the loan in the morning and at lunch somebody has an epiphany, and says you know what I think that we should see if we can get some more money from somebody else. And were going to subordinate that money. We're not going to follow this paragraph because there's no line. In fact someone raised that issue. The memorandum points out somebody raised the issue should there be a line between

1:29:10 when the loan is granted and possible default. And they said, no that's not necessary because the law doesn't say that you can change it anytime you want to if the secretary thinks its appropriate Does that make good common sense? As Mr. Green pointed out to you, you don't have to be a lawyer know good common sense. It makes common sense that the Congress of the United States responsible for setting our legislative policy would say that you are not subordinate but under the interpretation if your lawyers they could subordinate after lunch for alone closed in the morning does that make it so that's the that's the general premise and why they're hammering on this guy and as well they should yeah well then this this schmuck silver hi ho silver

1:29:48 He gets hammered because he basically is saying I don't know. I'm not responsible. I didn't do it The dog ate my homework while we talked this staff talked with the company on a regular hour I really want you to stop throwing everybody else under the bus. I hear you throwing all your staff out under the bus. I want to know you're in charge, you've handled loans of this size and now your saying it's everybody else fault but you except your in charge You tell me what you as a person in charge did with half billion dollars tax payers money now saying its all my staffs fault? I didn't know! I can do anything about it. You tell me what your going to tell the taxpayers We are in hole for so much money this country and your dealing with this in very casual cavalier way whose fault is it

1:30:32 Well, sir. First let me say that the 200 odd professionals working in the loan guarantee program are exceptional professionals... And you throw them all under the bus it's a pretty bumpy ride but your'e the driver Mr. Silver! Your'e the driver and now your saying this is restructured and going back to slide that says obligations shall be subject to condition that obligation does not support other financing and now its gets restructured so taxpayers don't get their money back. Restructuring any restructuring congressman is based on a binary decision as to what is the better outcome. A binary decision? This guy should work for Vivek Kundra! Exactly, you'd be talking coal ball next time. I like a binary decision. For recovery, liquidation of sale of assets in a moment in time or a restructuring... Who was it that decided, that made the decision

1:31:19 act passed into law by the federal government was going to not be adhered to. Who made that decision? As I said, it was reviewed by legal counsel for the loan program So you have no responsibility in this either so we're throwing him under the bus too? I'm not a lawyer sir i rely on counsel We're throwing her under the bus too? Did the secretary of energy have anything to do with this decision or is he under the bus too? Not to my knowledge. So no one's responsible This is an incredible organization you work for No one in the federal government is responsible for half a trillion, half a billion dollars of taxpayers money. This is phenomenal! What do you do for a living? Why do... If you don't know what's happening everybody else is to blame. What if we go back and tell our constituents who have to work hard with so many people in this country in poverty, so many people in problems We're saying..if this federal agency is saying

1:32:06 we don't take any responsibility for the else's fault we'd need to be worked at the post of our capabilities congressman to ensure that these projects are as de-risked as possible and but now this has been a picture on the hook for their services pointed out earlier as was pointed out earlier uh... there are always challenges um... investing in innovation and i should point out that congress uh... through the appropriation of two point four billion dollars of credit so when did this company actually get their check It doesn't work like that, Congressman. I tell you the only guy getting thrown under their bus is this guy. Poor schmuck! Are you still there? That guy was so screwed

CHAPTER 30 / 41 Discussion

Fisker Automotive, Al Gore Government Loans

Fisker Automotive, a luxury hybrid car company backed by Al Gore, received a $529 million U.S. government loan to build vehicles in Finland. The "Fisker Karma," priced near $100,000, is criticized for using Chinese-made motors despite receiving substantial American taxpayer funding.

fisker automotive· al gore· tesla· department of energy· finland· karma

1:32:43 He better resign silver. So did you watch that? It was that a video that you did You picked it off the C-SPAN on yeah, is that watching squirming what does he look like sweating? He'd like a little Weasley guy, you know balding, you know sweatin on top of his head This is why I love watching c-span Yeah, besides the fact that it's kind of my vocation now You can't write this that wasn't good scripts at this guy was blowing out there this Murphy That was good. Oh, your lawyer? Throw her under the bus? Who else is going to do it? This guy's getting pretty busy under that bus there! This is the problem and by the way... There are so many companies that got these half-billion dollar loans You know what's that classy electric car company

1:33:27 It's a Tesla. No, no, no, no, no, no the in Tesla get a bunch of money from the government They got money but I don't know firsthand about that It was like the really high-end luxury Sports car they only make one car Kleiner Perkins invested in him. That's Tesla. No, no, no, no, no, no Hold on. I'll find it for you What's Kleiner Perkins? Kpb kPCB they got half a billion dollars in loans from oh man let's see private companies, companies by initial I'm looking on their website right now what would it be under consumer security s fund life sciences green tech a bitch it's under green text and bullcrap Green Tech come on John you know about these I can't believe they didn't give you one to drive no it's not Tesla. It's not!

1:34:27 They only make one car, it costs like $170,000. Yeah the Tesla No! It's not the Tesla You're wrong Okay keep arguing with me Fisker There you go Fisker Thank you, thank you That's even worse than Tesla That's my whole point they got a half-a-billion dollars Well Tesla does make a car that meets all the descriptions you made. They make one car, it costs $125 or plus thousand dollars and it's a sports car and has a bunch of government money Fisker Automotive here ya go Electric luxury & performance The Fisker Karma love it! The Fisker Story Read our reviews I got half-a-billion dollars and Ray Lane got it for them I know he went through all these negotiations with the government

1:35:18 That's going to turn out to be a dog. Look at Fisker Automotive dot com, it can be a total dog! I'm looking at it now and it looks like a BMW that has some sort of birth defect. Doesn't it look like that? It does. It's not even symmetrical. Here, Fisker Automotive let me see do they talk about Fisker Automotive is a green American premium sports car company with a mission to create a range of beautiful environmentally friendly cars that make environmental sense without compromise. Can you believe that our government is paying for that? Can I ask a rhetorical question? Why are we investing in high-end sports cars with government money, both Fisker and Tesla

1:36:07 From the Wall Street Journal, a tiny car company backed by... Ooh! Guess what? Here's your answer. Former Vice President Al Gore has just gotten a $529 million US government loan to help build this hybrid sports car in Finland. Interesting The award this week to California-started Fisker Automotive Inc follows a $465 million government loan to Tesla So they got even more money than Tesla. Combined a billion dollars for sports cars! Are we crazy? High-end sports car by the way. Looking at the car and driver review of this thing, it has 402 horsepower I don't know a 402 horsepower car that does 0 to 60 in 5.9 seconds as the best they can do and the top speed is 125

1:37:01 That doesn't sound like a hot... well. That sounds like a fister, not a fisker. Whoa! Let's weigh a ton. Now here it says it has 235 horsepower here. Okay Scott oh by the way good work with our money let me just read you some of the specs on this thing because they have a little picture of it It's got a repurposed GM Ecotech 2 liter turbofan, powers the 235 horsepower AC generator. And in the back there is the thing that really powers this thing? Two Chinese made... No! No! ...AC motors supplying 402 horsepower of thrust. Chinese! Chiner, chiner, chiner! Hey I'm getting sick of these chiners. So we're basically loaning them money to buy a Chinese motor?! I'm sick of these chiners This is nuts. I'm not gonna pay my taxes. Is it all the karma!?

1:37:53 It's called the karma, yeah. Hey! What did you get for 465 million dollars? You've got... karma. Thank you Back by Al Gore Yeah! Some of those who plunk down the cash are doubtless atoning for past turbo V8 sins, oh brother. But others may be less altruistic simply drawn on the sexiest fenders ever draped over an American sedan whatever the motivation they'll get a beautiful luxurious machine that goes easy on the guilt this is from car and driver course you always can't really slam anything because it's too much advertising

CHAPTER 31 / 41 Discussion

Listener Donations, Knighting of Sir Gregory Laudrup

The show acknowledges various listener donations, including a significant contribution from Gregory Laudrup, who is granted a knighthood. Other donors mentioned include Mark Fusco of 1337wine.com and Gil Freund, who requested a shout-out for his son's Bar Mitzvah.

gregory laudrup· mark fusco· 1337wine.com· bar mitzvah· stockholm

1:38:39 Is advertising, advertising. So if they had 3 thousand... what are these cards going for? 90 grand? That's what they're selling them for? Apparently the price on this model that they tested Price as tested was $96,895. So that's like 280 million dollars in sales but of course these things you know they're not making any money on him yet so Anyway, speaking of advertising something we know nothing about I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that Oh, yeah Indeed and by the way You're right there probably losing money on that thing

1:39:30 Okay, we have a few donors this week want to mention them I call him out mark Fusco in San Antonio Texas on a $33.70 another leet As an elite contribution to the show for a few things. First, my belated birthday I didn't get chance last week to donate for my birthday on the 8th Second just some good travel karma from my trip to get Mo Nation's stinky cheese this Saturday For a week have some great wine from my podcast license C number one after three initial ones at 1337wine.com Let's hand him out some karma for his trip that is really important You've got Karma Commerce from a oh you also got some karma for his mom's cancer seemed it worked She got into an experimental trial with a high success rate because they found slightly more cancer if they hadn't found it Then she would have been on the regular treatment. Well, let me see how this works So karma gave her more cancer and therefore worked because she got into a special treatment It's kind of the way it reads but I'm sure at me no, I'm sure he means that well But anyway to hate cancer

1:40:34 Yeah, it's bad. Fucking lame and so good luck mom Thank mark he also sent me a note which I'll respond to him on email Gil Freund and Rahovit $131 and 31 cents please a shout out to my son Yuri who will celebrate his bar mitzvah And some karma to all the peoples of the Middle East here you go people's in the Middle East in your Arab Spring got karma You certainly deserve some paramedics.

1:41:16 He wants to thank us for all we do. Glenn Riccio and Scott Tolstoy, both up on the $111.11 monthly program. Gregory... I doubt that's a monthly. It seems like that's a one-shot. Neither of them have much to say. Glenn Riccio from Charlottesville Virginia and Scott Tolstoy whose name has cropped up before in Mount Prospect Gregory Laudrup in North Hills, California. $100 John and Adam keep up the good work And he will become a knight today Is that, oh yes he will. Per, brother this is kind of botched on my screen so I can't quite read it but it's per Hasselstrom. I think its Hasselstrom. Strum. Hasselstrom in Stockholm $100 Clint Brown and Frederick Maryland very interesting area $97 greeting from the People's Republic of Maryland where the state motto was what could we tax that we didn't tax which could be taxed tomorrow that we couldn't tax now? This email.

CHAPTER 32 / 41 Discussion

Contagion Movie Review, CDC Propaganda

The film "Contagion" is analyzed as a potential propaganda tool for the CDC, which consulted on the production. The movie was written by Scott Z. Burns, who also produced Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth," and features a character that some listeners believe is a parody of Adam Curry.

contagion· cdc· jude law· scott z. burns· al gore· vaccines

1:42:20 I heard about the show last year when Thomas Woods blogged about you guys discussing his book Nullification on Show 242. Oh! He's been listening regularly ever since so i figured it was about time I paid up I figure that a buck, a show is a reasonable price to pay not to be yelling at the radio on my drive to work. Therefore i'm sending $97 donation cover all shows and listen to so far it amazes me how much you guys managed to dig up that haven't yet come across before this show keep of the good work mofos 97 from Clint Gregory Davies in Lawton, Oklahoma $60 John and Adam want to thank you for fabulous entertaining show on exposing the mainstream media for the bag of douches that they are recently is assigned a writer review of the movie contagion for the geeks of doom calm and thankful I've picked up some of your deconstruction tips when looking for those hidden agendas this is actually good movie review so we might as well read it. The film was utterly awful

1:43:18 Interestingly, Jude Law's character is an anti-vaccine crackpot called Alan Crumweedy or something but his name is almost Alan Crummy in the film and suspiciously almost rhymes with Adam Curry. Coincidence? I think not! You know it's funny because CDC came out and looking for the actual article and said you know Here it is, CDC. Contagion-like outbreak quite plausible! And this was done by... wasn't it Sondheim who directed that thing? The guy who did Crash? I don't know who did it Yeah he's a really good director The reviews are all crummy so you know not too concerned about it personally Well here's the... You have the vaccines vaccines vaccines in the movie Dr Thomas Frieden Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said on the early show Monday and I have to go find that

1:44:15 The scenario portrayed in the film is quite plausible. Of course, the CDC worked closely with the filmmakers i.e., paid them money to create a highly accurate portrayal of a growing pandemic. We are all connected by the food we eat, the water we drink, and air we breathe, Frieden said. The CDC and our partners identifies one new pathogen each year. We're all going to die." Well, he meant that Greg here mentions that turns out the movies written by Scott Z Burns who was also the producer of gores inconvenient truth. Oh you're kidding me? Well there you go it's taught its a I mean not like we didn't know it but that's a total New World Order film yep Wow

CHAPTER 33 / 41 Discussion

Birthday Announcements, Job Loss Karma

The hosts read birthday wishes for listeners and offer "karma" to those facing personal challenges, such as eye surgery or job loss. One listener, Dame Lena, lost her job after 17 years, prompting a discussion about the "job sharing" ideas previously mentioned by Richard Branson.

rachel carrier· mike potter· dame lena· richard branson· alamo california

1:45:02 Anyway, it's depressing. Bradley Carrier in Lexington but that doesn't mean people shouldn't donate more. No! Lexington Michigan 5555 can I please get some karma for my wife Rachel who is having eye surgery this week? Absolutely Rachel here you go You've got karma Little more karma for Tom Bushey in uh St. Paul, Minnesota at 55 double nickels on the dime he needs some karma to help him just get by don't we all my friend here you go You've got Karma Also double nickels, or actually 5150 sorry from Jeffrey Gerlach is sir. Jeffrey girl like I'm sorry Alamo California threes a charm bout of being Mike Potter st.. Louis Missouri 5150 on my 40th birthday was on 913 the tugboat karma worked the tug Paver works like a champ not sure what this all means well But we've got him on the birthday list

1:46:05 That's a good thing. Black Knight, era de durian, Trabuco Canyon California $50 guys after 17 years at our company my wife Dame Lena lost her job apparently it was simply eliminated anyway my first thought is to donate to the show and ask for karma now there you have it and asked for karma so she finds a job quickly thanks guys all right here we go Lena this is gonna help you find the new job It's part of that Richard Branson gig, I guess. Yeah! Just take more time off. Enjoy your vacation and help the economy. Chris Lewinsky, Sherwood Park Alberta $50 David Middlebrook Aberdeenshire UK $50 David Middlebrook Alon... oh sorry that was him Jason Burke Richmond Texas $50 Michelle what is that? Gearing

1:46:56 Is it gearing a gearing I see gear wants to small Manhattan, Kansas $50.00 happy mom's too small the font where I got this on a monologue and to shrink the spreadsheet cuz I was tired of scrolling back and forth and back and forth that one's too small The font's too small. There you go Mike and it is in green! Mike Westerfield, Sir Mike Westerfield Enderlin North Dakota $50 and that will be it for todays show Thank everybody who donated We appreciate everything we get noagendashow.com dvorak.org channeldvorak.com

CHAPTER 34 / 41 Discussion

No Agenda Business Model, Producer Credits

The "Value for Value" funding model is explained, emphasizing that the show accepts no advertising and relies solely on listener contributions. Listeners who donate $200 or more are credited as Associate Executive Producers, a title the hosts offer to vouch for in professional settings.

value for value· noagendanation.com· c-span· executive producer· residuals

1:47:34 and also noagendanation.com where you can also buy a mug. And t-shirts, Mickey was wearing her No Agenda, her slave T shirt as she wore it to the gym and she says people didn't bat an eye Of course, exactly. Oh I didn't know they had t-shirts here. Hey where's my...I know i'm a slave but where is my slave issued T shirt? I need that! That's right noogenlanation.com and of course the only thing you need to remember is now programmed into your brain. Slash and a consider us because we're doing a lot of work for you And I did I like the the $97 donation For every what was it for every hour that he's listened? Was it every show cuz I think we're worth more than a buck an hour, but that's just me But just consider what you're spending on your media Entertainment and how you could cut back possibly

1:48:27 A lot of people are getting rid of cable. Just think about how much money you're saving and just a sliver that would really help us out because this is all we do, we don't play commercials, don't take any money from any commercial interest and watch a heckuva lot of C-SPAN just to make sure you don't have too It's your birthday, birthday on Noah's ship. Mark Fusco congratulates himself it was his birthday on the 8th Mike Potter also a self-congratulatory note he turned 40 on the 13th Michelle Gearing says happy birthday hubby Justin Gearing and his birthday is I guess

1:49:04 on celebrating his birthday. Sir Don Bean congratulating himself, 52 today and Harry Pilgrim wants to congratulate his lovely wife Jennifer Pilgrim of course they helped out big time on the Hot Pockets 2008 tour her birthday was yesterday and like a good little slave I won't mention how old she actually turned but happy birthday! And Harry actually did have a little note here. He said, ever since we picked you guys up from the airport Jen has become a loyal No Agenda listener and has quite a knack for propagating the formula she is a PR savant Very nice good. Yes, we love that We really do now for those of you who don't know how the program works You can become an executive producer or an associate executive producer just like Hollywood If you ever see the credits rolling by on television Those are the people who have actually financed that program and

1:50:01 Now, there's two things where our show differs from Hollywood. One when you get and what is the limit John for a producer credit associate executive producer? That's $200 dollars so if you come in at least 200 dollars then you are an associate executive producer And above that kind of shakes out who is the executive producer The difference with Hollywood Is unlike those phonies here You know If you paid for something to get your name on a credit and then you want to like prove it For your next venture, say well I was an executive producer on this show. You can never find those guys you know the LLC is gone it's like it's all busted you never get any residuals anyway so they're phonies they won't vouch for you if you need us to vouch for you for any reason you can call us up send us email we'll be happy to talk to anybody now there isn't one other difference as if you are an executive producer in Hollywood you get to bang all the hot actresses and that unfortunately is not the case on The No Agenda Show

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Social Media Valuation, User Data Sales

A discussion on the valuation of social media companies like Twitter reveals that registered users are often valued between $20 and $100 per head. The hosts argue that traditional media treats the audience as a product to be sold to advertisers, whereas their model focuses on direct listener support.

twitter· mailchimp· social networking· advertising· data privacy

1:50:59 Yeah, yeah. It's a shame but we're working toward it. We are working very hard you can draw your sword John that I'd like to bring out Gregory Ludrup because he will about to join the illustrious club where the hookers and blow the tranny hunters The hot pants and booze, and of course the Rennboys in Chardonnay all hang out as the Knights at the No Agenda Roundtable. Gregory Ludrip thank you for your donations tallying up to $1,000 in total extend your finger for your ring And please accept your title of Sir Gregory Ludrip Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable They're all waiting for you! The dames and the knights...and the barons right over here sir We highly appreciate it

1:51:42 It is the model we have chosen for this show and we've been going for four years now. And nobody can tell us what to do Which is kind of cool if you think about it. Oh, it's awesome except for my landlord who can tell me to get the hell out when I can't pay the rent but... Well yeah your wife could tell you what to do. There are a lot people that could tell you regarding the show. Regarding the show no one can tell us what to talk about? No, I think our listeners who are inherently taking a product... Yeah they all stop listening and they kinda tell us what to do. Right because they're not the product They're the recipients of what we consider to be a pretty darn good product

1:52:22 Second half of the show. I was going to let me reiterate this product notion just so because I'm sure a lot of new listeners don't get it, most magazines newspapers and all the rest of these operations that use advertising as a vehicle They're actually making you the product and you as a product are being sold to the advertisers. And that's how special interest publishing, all publishing works this way. They figure out kind of who you are they package you up as a product and walk over to one of the big agencies and say here is what we've got these are our subscribers and they sell you to them. That's back ass word! Well it's even worse than that if

1:53:05 If you have a company, let's say like Twitter. Like the tweeters and you say okay I've got 50 million people You are assigned of value when that company is either takes new investment or is sold because regardless of the business model just having you on a list What is a person worth on the list? Like at least five bucks, isn't that kind of what it goes for even- Oh! Are you kidding?! You're way low. No but ehhh... But seriously. Nah nah no you're way low. What does one p- Well wait a minute

1:53:41 Can we sell our list? We have like 5,000 people. We have five thousand people on a list somewhere on MailChimp. Hey! We're ripe for investment So tell me about this It's about twenty to one hundred dollars ahead Really?! Yeah it depends what the business is and how specialized is but 20 to 100 and I've seen higher numbers crop up once in awhile but twenty bucks as low as it gets So just being a registered user of some hip service, right? Let's just say it is a hip social networking thing. You're worth $100 bucks? $20 to $100, it depends on how focused that is if there was something where the list was very valuable to some large corporations It could be as much as 100 easy Wow! That's a good scam

1:54:37 It's a totally good great scam and that's what they do. And they don't care about delivering facts or I mean when you're doing that, when your business is really just selling customers to advertisers You don't care about giving people information that they could use the better their lives? So you don't really give a crap there's no reason to because that's not what your business is. We have to do what we do to keep people listening and contributing otherwise You know they're doing the donations dry up and we're done in fact. I never care, and I never look at the stats I never look at how this is this is a big difference in all the businesses have always had I was like how many people How many registered users? How many then and I got so tired of that because it was never about what really counted which is about the show you And I are to have sleepless nights thinking about um But you know what can we are we doing the show the best we can That's our that's what our sleep. That's mine at least I don't know what you know here in Brazil who knows where you're doing

1:55:30 I have sleepless nights about that. What can we do better? Because that translates directly to our bottom line, the only way we can measure if we're doing a good job is if people support us and I think that's a very fair way it's value for value you think we suck you don't think were good enough you think man okay but not worth it You won't send any money! You don't send money It becomes tight That's what it is The only thing we don't know is what we're doing right Well yeah there is that problem Well, what we do is essentially we just go along with our own sense of things and we just basically deconstruct stuff and ridicule the media. You know, do the best that we can at it or find hidden messages that people are probably ignoring or whatever I don't know. Speaking of hidden messages John its happening once again. That looks like a very cold map there were numerous reports of fireballs

CHAPTER 36 / 41 Discussion

NASA Satellite Re-entry, UARS Space Junk

NASA's Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (UARS), a 12,000-pound piece of space junk, is expected to fall back to Earth in an uncontrolled re-entry. NASA scientists state the debris could land anywhere between 57 degrees north and south latitude, covering most of the world's populated areas.

nasa· uars· space junk· orbital debris· nick johnson· fireball

1:56:31 flying across the sky last night, across Arizona, across Southern Nevada even across Southern California Carol. UFOs that weren't quite sure what it was? Was it some sort of satellite falling through the atmosphere but scientists are saying it's just a meteorite or shooting star if you will but it was reported and seen by thousands of people across that part of the world so Which reminds me, last night I saw a movie which took aliens that were coming to us in meteorites and asteroids. They plunged into the Pacific Ocean and they came up and attacked Los Angeles. Riveting stuff! So maybe that has something to do with it? But that's not what that was... No! So we've got green balls of fire flying through the Los Angeles skies What could it be? Did you see it? Of course not, I went to bed at like 930

1:57:22 Course not. You didn't go to bed at 930, you would never go to bed at 930 I did go to bed at 9 30 and i'll tell you why because I was in such discomfort yesterday After as like having your tooth drilled out Yeah, I figured i'd get up at 4 30 this morning and do everything which is exactly what I did knowing also that you'd Be in brazil and you could be light on the clips now. I didn't know he'd have no clips I knew you'd be lighter. No, it's okay. It's okay made some clips at back home and I was gonna Okay Just a pre crime anyway so normally I'd say yes They're coming for us and the mothership is here And I'm all ready for but actually it's much worse than that because here is what is actually going on turns out one of NASA's

1:58:10 Satellites is coming down and I think that's what this is. This is a report from two days ago Before the green lights were seen and it's not very good or encouraging actually ended by looking out your window You might see something strange streaking across like the sky let's hope it's not headed toward your bedroom huge pieces of space junk hurtling to earth The upper atmosphere research satellite has been dead in space since 2005. Well, guess what? It's falling out of orbit now! The thing weighs more than 12000 pounds... it is NASA's largest satellite ever to fall back to Earth So where is going to hit? Let's ask Nick Johnson, NASA's chief scientist for orbital debris Orbital debris a big problem and this thing is really big problem Do you know where its going to land?

1:59:05 No John, we don't. Right now it could be anywhere from 57 degrees north latitude to 57 degrees south latitude Well basically that includes all of the populated surface of the earth That is actually quite funny That's basically everywhere except for the North and South Pole And NASA guys are like well it could land anywhere between the North Pole and the South Pole but he gives you some latitudes so you really don't have to think about it To show the possibilities here When this thing does come in, assuming it happens at night... ...at least night on whatever side of the Earth it comes through. People are going to be able to see it right? Yeah I'll put on quite a show and you probably will even be able to see during daytime if that's the way turns out Alright well Nick Johnson from NASA we hope it doesn't go bonk on anybody head Thanks for being with us We'l keep updated with you as when this thing finally comes down So off course this could not be true

CHAPTER 37 / 41 Discussion

Comet Elenin, Operation Cocked Pistol Drill

Conspiracy theories regarding Comet Elenin and a rumored DEFCON 1 drill codenamed "Cocked Pistol" are discussed. The segment touches on the murals at Denver International Airport and the hosts' desire to appear on the "Coast to Coast AM" radio show with George Noory.

comet elenin· cocked pistol· denver airport· defcon 1· coast to coast am· george noory

2:00:02 It could be some space junk or it could be the first visible sights we're getting with a naked eye of Comet Elenin which is going to kill us. And this, of course, is slated for this month as you know I've been tracking this We have elites up there in Alaska moving to Colorado and all over the circles that I travel on the interwebs we are now speaking about a report That under salt the strategic nuclear arms control agreement was sent to Russia because the deal is that Both parties are required to notify The other if there's going if they're gonna do any Any drills or any practices, you know anything? That's and I'm always worried about this whenever there's a drill of some kind something bad usually happens We've seen countless reports of this apparently on September 27th

2:00:58 There will be a DEFCON 1 drill in the United States, codenamed Cocked Pistol. And as part of this drill the President is going to be put into these secured bunkers in Denver which are underneath Denver Airport with all that crazy murals and everything And so I've been following these reports about this cocked pistol. Of course you can't find anything about it on the DOD website or any Pentagon related websites, but i have to think that someone got...I mean even come up with the code name was pretty interesting and uh... Well you know but this codename has been used before Cocked Pistol?

2:01:45 Cocked pistol, yeah it was used in 2010 according to the interwebs for some Korean exercise that was taking place. when they were having, it says actually went into play. It says US goes to cock pistol alert or alert status after over Korean war fears this was the May event where the Koreans were you know bombing a shack on the other side of the border yeah and so cocked pistol has to be something that predates that insofar as a methodology for hiding the president in the bunker Well, I don't know. If you Google this you'll see the same report over and over again so it's obviously something that is propagated and flowing through the wires. I do know that the president will be in Colorado on September 27th

2:02:36 Yeah, he gives a speech jumps into a hole they block him up and then... And then Elenin strikes! And then the only man alive. He's gonna come out the only man alive I'll go oh crap man and she's the only woman? So that's your flank saucer report for the week? Do you think I can get on coast to coast with that one I don't know. I don't understand why we can't get you on Coast to Coast, that would actually be a good one That's just enough to get you on coast-to-coast for once one segment on the radio these radio shows are they bring it? We're gonna bring you right on in a minute in a minute Mr.. Curry mr Norah will be right with you just We're gonna turn you on and just wait for the everybody welcome to coaster coaster. Yeah, we have now on the phone It's Adam curry now Adam You are sometimes known as The Crackpot And that's how it'll start off

2:03:36 Might as well just call me a douchebag. Actually, it'll come I don't start off with you know Nori does the old-fashioned he'll give the plugs and everything all in advance because he these old time radio guys Don't want to leave a lot of stuff out at the beginning because they don't want guys slipping plugs in cuz it sounds sleazy Yeah So, Ron? And then you'll be on and you'll say we'll be right back right after this message. It will take a 10 minute break of advertising. Advertising, right. On and on about one thing or another... Buy gold! Buy gold! Buy gold! Buy gold! Buy gold! Survivor seeds, crisis garden buy gold. You want some storable food. Yeah. You need seeds. Seeds. You need food

CHAPTER 38 / 41 Discussion

Ron Paul, CNN Tea Party Debate Setup

The CNN Tea Party Republican debate is criticized as a "setup" designed to discredit Ron Paul. Host Wolf Blitzer asked a hypothetical question about an uninsured man dying, which was later linked to the death of Paul's former campaign manager, Kent Snyder, and a website registered by a Democratic PR consultant.

ron paul· wolf blitzer· cnn· matt ortega· lethimdie.com· kent snyder

2:04:15 I do want to talk about some PR work that was absolutely astounding. Were you able to see that stupid ass lame Tea Party presidential Republican debate before you left? No, but I did read a bunch of reports about it and I guess Perry and Ron Paul are having the time of their lives Well actually it was a complete setup To try and obliviate Ron Paul complete setup and it was because of one actually so Wolf Blitzer is now good because of course wolf blitzer hosted the event he did what theater this is and wolf blitzer's now all over this he completely loves what he's done but I think he was in collusion if not CNN of course is probably reasonably easy to infiltrate and get them to do something cuz a question came out of left field which was just like the most outrageous question I thought

2:05:15 and you probably didn't hear about this but part of the question is actually in this little piece which Wolf Blitzer is now rerunning over and over incessantly, and then I'll pick it apart for you tell what actually happened here. Two days after our groundbreaking CNN Tea Party presidential debate in Tampa, Ron Paul still getting some heat about the answer he gave me to one of my questions we have some new information to put the Republicans views on health care into some context For that, we asked Brian Todd to do some checking. Brian what are you finding out? Well as you know Ron Paul stuck to his position that night he never wavered but what he didn't do He didn't bring up a very personal story A story of close aide that he lost three years ago A story that takes this way beyond the hypothetical for Ron Paul

2:06:00 It was one of the most pointed moments in the early debate season. Wolf Blitzer asked Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, a staunch opponent of a government role in health care what should happen to a 30-year old man who can afford insurance chooses not to buy it then becomes catastrophically ill? He needs intensive care for six months who pays that's what freedom is all about taking your own risk this whole idea you have to prepare and take care everybody Asked if society should let the man die, Paul said no and said in his experience churches charities friends and relatives would help. It's a circumstance Ron Paul knows intimately In June of 2008 Paul's former campaign chairman Kent Snyder who Paul says talked him into running for president that year died of pneumonia Snyder had no insurance So this was such a brilliant plan

2:06:53 that Wolf Blitzer asked a question specifically about a 30 year old man who has no insurance should we let him die fully well knowing and I'll tell you why because Matt Ortega told him fully well knowing that this is something Well, it depends on how you read the headline but he his campaign manager about 30 years old died of pneumonia By the way. He did get health care He died with a whole bunch of bills so it's not like if he had insurance he would have lived and made no difference because he got the the care he needed and immediately we have a website let him die calm and

2:07:36 No, brother at the Tea Party GOP debate It was asked if we should let an uninsured man die the Tea Party audience cheered applauded and explained exclaimed. Yeah The American people want to know And then that's would Rick Santorum Let him die with Newt Gingrich let him dies I was like all of the Republican can't what John Huntsman? Let him die so I'm like wow So I do the who is look up and lo and behold yeah Matt Ortega Has registered lethimdie.com on September 12th, so presumably day of This guy is a member of New Partners We've got to take a look at these guys New Partners is a PR firm Very interesting And this Matt Ortega is one of the people So newpartners.com Is one of the people who works there

2:08:28 Let's see, he was responsible for Barack Obama's historic Iowa caucus win. Responsible for Barack Obama's groundbreaking national grassroots strategy How grassroots is it if you have a PR firm working on it? Yeah there's a name for that called Astroturf Well, in fact if you look at new partners they have strategic positioning, communications research. Grassroots organizing! Here you go our approach to field and grassroots organizing is guided by a belief in the power of people talking to people Our peers neighbors community leaders friends and co-workers become the ultimate tastemakers in a world where top down communication doesn't get the job done anymore We can help you create a robust grassroots organizing program

2:09:12 It's like, it's like the opposite of what grassroots is. Hey play the douchebag thing will ya? DOOSHBAG! So, uh... I'm looking at his LinkedIn thing. Yeah? You should also mention he was on the Democratic National Committee as the web specialist and you can tell by that website he just designed He's a genius Well, I think he actually worked for the State Department. He is a techno-expert Yep, he was the ECA Web Developer for the State Department after that then became the new Media Director of Clean Energy Works according to his own bio which is you cited and now he's the new media consultant. Yeah, this guy's a douchebag! And this whole site lethimdiedotcom if you follow the trail is one of his clients and one of his clients called protectyourcare which you can find at protectyourcare.org

2:10:07 Protect Your Care is a 501c4 organization that will create the political and media space for elected officials, industry leaders and community advocates to champion the Affordable Care Act. And hold accountable those who seek to take those benefits away! So they did a brilliant job of setting Ron Paul up... Scamming CNN Setting him, what a question. I think Wolf Blitzer said...I got a good question Let's ask him now no of course not he fully well knew he fully well knew that this was gonna happen asshole yeah wolf blitzer Absolutely incontrovertible the guys from Oakland if course is a gangster

2:10:58 Oakland raised in Hayward. Oh, gosh! I don't know...Hayward that's a that's where i refuel airplanes you want to do anything else there it's a nice little airport yeah some very sad happening and Gitmo Nation East I'm sorry, just not to belabor this idiot but it's mattortega.com the uh... i can't believe, if this is a... I find it offensive that they would let the guy from the DNC essentially write the questions for the Republican debate you know Republicans can debate themselves with their own ideas It was set up to completely discredit Ron Paul

CHAPTER 39 / 41 Discussion

Nathan Eccleston, Illuminati Tweet Controversy

Liverpool soccer player Nathan Eccleston faced disciplinary action after posting a tweet on the anniversary of September 11 suggesting the "Illuminati" were responsible for the attacks. The incident is cited as an example of the limitations on free speech for public figures with large audiences.

nathan eccleston· liverpool fc· illuminati· 9/11· freedom of speech

2:11:46 Yeah, and make him look like a dick saying yeah people should die. There was another part there was another part of the debate where He which was kind of sad because people started booing him And he basically Paul yeah, I don't have the clip up to let's face it They'd load in the audience of course It was about you know Ron Paul said we should ask ourselves why? You know why Muslim extremists were angry and bombed us this is because we've been bombing them We'll be killing millions of people when people went boom Yeah, right. So Nathan Eccleston is a soccer player footballer for Liverpool and he tweeted I guess on September 11th He said I ain't gonna say...I ain't gonna... I ain't going to say attack don't let the media make you believe that was terrorists that did it to us OTIS hashtag. The OTIS is the hashtag standing for only the Illuminati succeed

2:12:57 Big mistake by this young man as he's about to get kicked off the team Yeah, you can't now you can't say anything This is this is what it's come too. So if you have any standing in the world of Well, if you have an audience You can't say anything Of course this guy, you know look at his shirt and you know vote a phone He's got all you know has got all kinds of advertising. You can't be saying that stuff In fact, the club said... That's very very sad. I know that I have freedom of speech in Gitmo Nation East but you know

CHAPTER 40 / 41 Discussion

Mexican Drug Cartels, Social Media Intimidation

In Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, drug cartels left a chilling message by hanging two bodies from a bridge with signs warning against reporting criminal activity on social media. The act is described as psychological warfare intended to silence citizens using Twitter and Facebook to bypass censored mainstream media.

mexico· nuevo laredo· drug cartels· twitter· facebook· psychological warfare

2:13:52 Instead of people, people should be rioting again. Get on the streets and riot! Oh I'm sorry you don't have any CIA telling you to do that now. It's just sad... Speaking of that here is the message in the United States tweet about illegal activity if you rat on people you will die A chilling message to those who use social media in Mexico. Now we have to warn you, the video that you're about to see is very graphic but take a look two bodies hanging from a bridge with signs of torture messages left near the body said the victims were killed for denouncing drug cartel activity on a social network joining us with much more on this is Rafael Romo boy that video is hard to look at tell us

2:14:42 what do you make of this? What do you know about it? Well, here's the bottom line Randy. What happens is that in Mexico media outlets have been threatened by organized crime and for a long time now they have self-practiced self censorship so what people were doing was using social media to report on the crimes happening uh... crimes committed by drug cartels and organized crime So now what's happening now is that Yesterday morning they found two bodies hanging from a pedestrian bridge in the city of Nuevo Laredo. Just to put it in perspective to our viewers, this is across the border from Laredo Texas This is very important you have to...this is America! You might as well be in America across the border And right next to the messages there were posters indicating that this was going to happen to all those who are posting messages online

2:15:34 reporting on what's happening with the drug cartels, drug violence in Mexico. So it is a very shocking and chilling message to people who are doing this in Mexico. I think that this is a shocking and chilling message basically telling everybody just shut up! I don't care what its about... Shut Up!! Yeah there definitely is a shut-up message involved of course right across the board the first thing you would logically think is oh well if they can do it there or sneak across the board and kill me here So I'm always saying, you know, you're under threat. But yeah this is a shut-up slave. And by the way who's running the group? Did they explain what the social media connection was with this story where people tweetering stuff? Yeah! You can always set up an anonymous Twitter account and tweet on anything you want It's just more psychological warfare

2:16:30 In my opinion. You can set up an anonymous Facebook account pretty easily and tweet anything you're tweeting, then Facebook anything you want. Facebook it! Yeah? The whole idea is don't be saying anything on the tweeters because you could get killed And we'll see if this propagates... No! It's you get hung upside down from a bridge with your guts hanging out Nigel I know you got a legalized did these drugs it with this and that is really going to be a story that's never gonna happen obviously for these reasons you can use it as a fear is if get kind of just another thuggish thing they keep the public under control so do that in the show on a high note but I really want to do at this time yeah I can't again this is a for though we do have producers in New York City but I think that day if getting away with it New York City which

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New York Street Signs, Show Outro

An artist in New York City, Jason Shelewitz, has been installing realistic-looking street signs with humorous etiquette messages like "pull up your pants." The show concludes with a final thank you to producers and a sign-off from both California and Brazil.

metropolitan etiquette authority· jason shelewitz· chelsea· lone ranger· brazil

2:17:22 I'm not sure exactly how it works. Crazy signs that look like actual street signs. They have the whole thing is this made of the same material? they're attached to light to lamp posts except they have Very very frightening messages every block in New York City is loaded with traffic signs alternate side bus stop But if you look up long enough to notice this one at 15th and 9th You'll probably chuckle a bit pay attention while walking your Facebook status updates

2:17:59 they can wait. Courtesy of the Metropolitan Etiquette Authority, we track down the guy who's been putting these up around the city. We've got one that says pull-up your pants no one wants to see your underwear Jason Shelewitz says the signs cost him about 30 bucks a piece he has a real street sign vendor make them and according to him the police don't seem to mind I'm sure that There is some law against this. I haven't really researched it, but the message is positive not defacing property and they're not blocking any important signs They're just sort of there as an extra thing for pedestrians to see in Chelsea Alex Silverman the Metropolitan Etiquette Authority getting away with it

2:18:36 Well, you know right down the street from my house is one of those companies that makes signs like that. I think this is a very good... They have the whole kit! You can have a sign made like a triangular yellow sign it says student crossing or whatever and they have the strap and they have the whole kit you can just put the whole thing together just find a good pole get a ladder put up on there and cranked down before anyone notices and one of our producers sent in some album art. It's a New York Street sign. It says shut up slave and has like a guy with it with a bat Hammering this is very funny hammering a guy on the ground says pay your taxes That's great we might use that I know let's see what comes in and of course always thanks to all of our Fantastic artists who help us out with creating great album art John when are you coming back from Brasilia? Oh

2:19:36 I'm coming back as soon as they can. I'll be back for Sunday for sure okay good, so please do think of us thing with the work We're putting in there for you Helping you seem smarter at cocktail parties and the ones we all attend probably have plastic cups But oh before I forget I do want to Thank The anonymous no agenda producer known as lotto Who purchased a Ohio State lottery ticket for us. He says all I could afford Unfortunately, none of the numbers hit but actually none of the numbers not a single one of them Yeah, she's just sent $1 in yeah coming to you from Gitmo Nation West The People's Republic of Southern California where I gotta get out of this place the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry and

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