Episode 332 · Sunday, 21 August 2011

Bud Nip

A mobile broadcast from the Virginia woods uncovers systemic record destruction at the SEC and the chemical secrets of supermarket produce.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 332

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Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak broadcast from a mobile RV setup deep in the Virginia woods near the NSA headquarters, battling severe 3G bandwidth limitations and audio lag. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta claims Iraq requested a continued U.S. military presence past the 2011 deadline, while Secretary of State Hillary Clinton issues asset-freezing executive orders against the Assad regime in Syria. Meanwhile, Texas Governor Rick Perry faces intense media scrutiny as former Treasury official Bruce Bartlett labels him an idiot for his aggressive stance against Ben Bernanke and the Federal Reserve.

The Securities and Exchange Commission stands accused of destroying records for 18,000 preliminary investigations, a move Matt Taibbi reports has wiped out evidence involving Bernie Madoff and major investment banks since 1993. In Pennsylvania, hundreds of international students on State Department visas walked out of a Hershey’s plant to protest manual labor conditions, while a viral video reveals supermarket sweet potatoes are treated with the sprout-inhibitor Budnip. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has announced the nationalization of gold mines and the withdrawal of $11 billion in reserves from Western banks to be relocated to Russia and China.

Adam Curry recounts a Hoboken meetup where he knighted a donor with a pizza cutter, while the Guinness World Records organization officially rejected the show's attempt to set a domain-forwarding record. Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich admits that television producers coached him to act angrier during cable news segments to boost ratings. The show concludes with a look at the Internet Explorer IQ hoax and a warning about the revolving door between Michael Chertoff and the burgeoning security state.


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CHAPTER 01 / 29 Discussion

RV Travel Logistics, NSA Woods, Connectivity Issues

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the show from separate locations, with Curry reporting from a mobile RV setup in the woods near NSA headquarters in Virginia. They describe the logistical challenges of their recent travel from a Jersey City meetup and the severe bandwidth limitations of their current 3G connection. The hosts warn listeners of a significant audio lag and potential synchronization issues throughout the episode.

jersey city· virginia· nsa headquarters· rv park· bandwidth· at&t· skype

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. DeVorah It's Sunday August 21st 2011 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 332 This is no agenda Reporting from the front lines of Gitmo Nation from the Four Winds 5000 Crackpot Command Center in the woods behind the NSA headquarters just outside our nations capital In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Hello? And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm sure this is going to be a mediocre... Oh, great. Perfect! We've never been so tight. It's great. Jeez. It was like a long lag. I should have jumped on you when you first said Adam Yeah, y'know, you should have started like in the morning is when you should have jumped on me

00:56 So there's a lag that we should tell people about. Why don't you explain your situation so everyone has a clue why this show is going to be a little mistimed? Yes, the problem is we arrived...so we decided yesterday after our New York-New Jersey meetup which of course I'll be talking about later that the Marina and RV park conveniently located in Jersey City, New Jersey was not the nicest places to be And you just imagine a parking lot with lines and like some electrical wires thrown around. That was where we were, we did not have the expected view of the city and the Statue Of Liberty We basically had a view of other RVs... ...and now we decided to leave so we actually decided to come all the way back down to Virginia about what traffic and everything

01:51 About seven and a half hours drive pulled into a fantastic, beautiful RV camp which literally is not far from NSA headquarters. It's in the same woods essentially Really nice exactly what we wanted the Wi-Fi was great so I'm like totally happy Then I find out that they limit your bandwidth down to dial-up speeds if you exceed 60 megabytes per hour of bandwidth usage. So, uh... We tried that this morning hooking up and I know—I can even see right now that John can probably barely hear me We are currently on the 3G connection which gives us about oh, I don't know a five hour lag time and John in the morning to you over

02:42 Oh, God. Yeah over I'm sorry. I'm picking it up yeah we have a long lag and i want to say hi to everybody including yourself and the ships at sea yes in the morning to all the human resources in the chat room hey I didn't say over yet oh sorry Over in the morning to all the human resources in the chat room at no agenda chat net no agenda stream calm All charged up and ready to go exactly the way your government loves you so sorry about this. It's always very difficult it's probably a little harder for John who who can then of course barely hear any clips, anything else that's coming down the line. It may stabilize a little bit John within an hour or so it kind of depends on how many people are using the AT&T cell connection that is around here so we'll just go with the flow over

CHAPTER 02 / 29 Discussion

Iraq Troop Withdrawal, Leon Panetta, Stars and Stripes

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta claims that Iraq has requested U.S. troops remain beyond the 2011 deadline, a statement the hosts view with skepticism. They analyze a clip from Democracy Now! featuring Raed Jarrar, who argues that U.S. forces have not patrolled Iraqi streets since 2009 and possess no means to prevent sectarian violence. The discussion highlights conflicting reports from the Pentagon and the State Department regarding the future of the Green Zone.

iraq· leon panetta· stars and stripes· democracy now· pbs· hillary clinton· pentagon

03:36 Well, we also have to deal with the fact that Skype doesn't like this connection and it's been giving us grief. Because you're just sped up, you sound like a mouse! Oh cool the helium effect I liked that a lot well screw it so anyway why don't I just kick it off John and say that the word is finally out I don't know if this is gonna work. This is gonna be very, very hard. No! What word? The word is out we're staying in Iraq. No no no no no... There's been a couple of different uh- this is- this is- no this word is out it not accurate let me play the clip

04:23 No, I've heard that too. I've got both sides of the story but the word is out that we're not staying in Iraq Well hold on a second before we play the clip...I have here an interview in The Stars and Stripes with Leon Panetta And he says That the Iraqis have asked for us to stay And he gave an official interview in the Stars and Stripes. So, I don't understand...I mean okay it's not a press release yet but it seems like its there we're done we're staying they just haven't said how many people they want. It is my understanding that Iraqis made it clear they don't want us. That whole thing that Deb Panetta did was bull crap Well then why? Wait a minute this is weird By the way we did mention last on our last show Hillary already predicted this

05:15 that were going to stay because she had it on good authority. But good authority seems to be Panetta just making it up as he goes along. All right, so what clip do you have? Well I got the clip from Democracy Now!, which is the clip about actually...the one we should play Which is the meta clip. There's a meta clip, a clip of a clip We've never done this on the show before and I hate to do it on this miserable show that we're doing But this is a clip On Democracy Now! Of a clip on PBS

05:54 Within an interview of a guy from Iraq who thinks that everything we're hearing and everything that's, that we're talking about is bullcrap. It's all set up... But the democracy now people don't realize it. The whole thing is setup They still believe PBS is on the up-and-up Anyway play THAT clip perspective on this. For instance, Margaret Warner of PBS recently spoke with the Washington Post's Annie Gowan who is reporting from Baghdad and in the interview Gowan said she spoke to Iraqis who were afraid that their country would descend into more sectarian violence if US troops withdraw. This is a clip anyone express fear that Iraq could see a return to the kind of sectarian violence they had back in 06 and 07? Yes, actually I spoke to just an Iraqi man today who said we want the American troops to stay. We are afraid that when they leave, the minute they leave civil war will descend on the country again and nobody here wants to go back

06:52 to those days of the sectarian violence in 2007, when you couldn't—the Iraqis couldn't even walk to work without seeing corpses in the street. So, Raed Jarrar is that your view from what you saw? That the Iraqis are looking to United States to save them from further sectarian violence? You know, I have rejected these arguments all along. In the last 20 years of conflict between the U.S. and Iraq, I have always rejected the argument that the U.S. is there to protect Iraqis from themselves and to protect Iraqis from other Iraqis. These arguments have expired years ago, I think it doesn't make sense anymore to even use these arguments because there are no US troops patrolling Iraqi streets anymore so i don't know

07:43 So, how would that Iraqi man claim that the U.S. is protecting Iraq—saving Iraq from a civil war that is awaiting around the corner if we end our occupation and give Iraq back to the Iraqi? The U.S. has no tools to protect Iraqis from each other anymore, even if it wanted to. I don't think the intention is there. But even if the intention is there, there are no means to do that. All of my trip in Iraq—I have not seen a single U.S. patrol or tank going around streets. All of the U.S. troops have went back to their bases since 2009."

08:30 Well, of course. I mean they're all at the base there's 50 000 people Hillary has got to fill up the beds these are not we don't want troops to go and patrol the streets We just need uh people to fill up the embassy well i mean that's a but that's different Don't you think? I mean if they're saying that that's...I know when they filled that embassy and keep it staffed in this They actually took over down with that whole part of town And made it the green zone which is now essentially America's 51st state So I'll just give you the quote. Here it is, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Friday that Iraq has already requested the US remain beyond 2011 The Pentagon is in the process of negotiating that agreement Pentagon told Stars and Stripes My view was they finally did say yes. My view? Yeah!

09:23 That's official enough. It's my opinion that they said yes, is that what he's saying? That's what he's saying! How awesome is it?! Isn't that great!? He wants us to stay so desperately that he just throwing his own opinion in there. Like... Yeah! I think they said yeah Wow. Yeah. I think they said yeah Wait a minute- Oh man Magic8Ball says Prospects look good Nice Alright then let's forget Iraq I'll tell you, yeah we probably should except do i have another Iraq clip? I'm not sure. Let me take a look at the mail but but I do have the New York Times here The Sunday Times and there is not one mention of Iraq in the whole front section so I'm thinking that

10:09 You know, this is not the week for talking about Iraq. No it's not! This is the week for talking about Syria that is why Panetta probably blew it he probably jumped the gun didn't follow the script let's face it The guy's new in this position He has always been out on the field and now of course you know... he's back at the office I'm thinking with the New York looking at the New York Times I am thinking that its actually the week to be talking about Libya NO! No! I'm sorry and I have a couple clips to prove it Here's Lucifer, she gave one of her clippity-clop walks. In fact I recorded the clippity-clop John just so you could hear it. It'll sound better on the podcast. But she like clippity-clop because you know she has hooves that's a problem So she comes out and of course this is Syria and we know that the president as we discussed

CHAPTER 03 / 29 Discussion

Syria Executive Order, Hillary Clinton, Libya Conflict

Hillary Clinton issues a series of condemnations against the Assad government in Syria, which the hosts interpret as a precursor to further intervention. They note President Obama's departure for Martha's Vineyard following an executive order to freeze Syrian assets. Meanwhile, the New York Times continues to focus on the conflict in Libya, reporting that rebels are closing in on Tripoli.

syria· libya· hillary clinton· bashar al-assad· united nations· martha's vineyard· tripoli

09:23 That's official enough. It's my opinion that they said yes, is that what he's saying? That's what he's saying! How awesome is it?! Isn't that great!? He wants us to stay so desperately that he just throwing his own opinion in there. Like... Yeah! I think they said yeah Wow. Yeah. I think they said yeah Wait a minute- Oh man Magic8Ball says Prospects look good Nice Alright then let's forget Iraq I'll tell you, yeah we probably should except do i have another Iraq clip? I'm not sure. Let me take a look at the mail but but I do have the New York Times here The Sunday Times and there is not one mention of Iraq in the whole front section so I'm thinking that

10:09 You know, this is not the week for talking about Iraq. No it's not! This is the week for talking about Syria that is why Panetta probably blew it he probably jumped the gun didn't follow the script let's face it The guy's new in this position He has always been out on the field and now of course you know... he's back at the office I'm thinking with the New York looking at the New York Times I am thinking that its actually the week to be talking about Libya NO! No! I'm sorry and I have a couple clips to prove it Here's Lucifer, she gave one of her clippity-clop walks. In fact I recorded the clippity-clop John just so you could hear it. It'll sound better on the podcast. But she like clippity-clop because you know she has hooves that's a problem So she comes out and of course this is Syria and we know that the president as we discussed

11:10 On Thursday's show, he came out with an executive order. We're gonna steal all their money and here is just a quick clip about what it is all about for her as predicted by the way The Assad government has now been condemned by countries in all parts of the world and can look only to Iran for support or its brutal and unjust crackdown. Now I think this is pretty significant what she's saying here, that they can only look to Iran? What does that mean? You're next. Yeah, exactly! And then she started off with the chorus of condemnation... Then it was the choir of condemnation

11:58 And she still can't get it right. No, Hillary. It is not the circle of condemnation. Try it again! There we go. All right. We'll just keep ... The chorus of condemnation ... This is all in one speech!

12:37 Circle of isolation, circle of condemnation chorus of condemnation. Clippity clop! She's tired she's tired you know I just gotta say one thing before we left... She doesn't get a lot of sleep Before we left and were still at Uncle Don's place he uh He says oh man shouldn't even tell ya this but I will he's not listening He says Hillary Clinton she got cankles and a hair problem Like alright Don go Yeah exactly I'll just wait until you catch up with me. Yeah, well it sounds like i'm way behind! Okay we're good again so anyway so Syria is on deck and it all makes sense our president has once again left on vacation last time when we attacked Libya he was in Brazil now he's in Martha's Vineyard and the assets have been frozen

13:38 Essentially all the money has now been stolen, and we can just wait for the UN to catch up. All we need is a resolution Maybe they can make it one instead of 1973 make it resolution 1974 And then we can implement the no-fly zone and take whatever We whatever we need although It'll be interesting to see how that all works out with Russia having their naval base there Yeah, God you know what I'm gonna. I'm gonna reestablish connection Okay, because it's just too much here hold on what to do this a couple times during the show But you know what we're still here doesn't matter rain or sleep nor snow Whatever it is. We're bringing you the show at least that's what we try to do Come on Johnny boy there we go that's better You think this is gonna be better? Yeah, we'll have to do it a couple times throughout the show well Just we won't be able to interact as much as normal

14:37 Yeah, maybe a good thing. So alright well you might be right but I mean the evidence at least so far as my clips...I don't have no clips on Syria and i have the front page of the New York Times which is pushing the Libya thing which they claim now... Of course this has been going on forever any minute now they're taking over. They keep saying that the rebels are getting closer to Tripoli. That's what they keep saying? They're making a mess of the place from these photos So that'll, we'll talk about that later in your Sunday time segment. Is there anything else you wanted to hit on? So I've got some my... no not on that, not in terms of the Middle East. Most of my material because I spent all the time watching C-SPAN and listening to various spooks talk to other spooks cause it was Spook Week and

CHAPTER 04 / 29 Discussion

Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Texas Sheriff Allegations

During a Q&A session, a young boy asks Michele Bachmann about allegations involving Texas Governor Rick Perry and a sheriff purportedly selling nude photos of minors. The hosts investigate the claim, finding it linked to a scandal in Nacogdoches involving the former president of the Sheriff's Association of Texas. They discuss the lack of mainstream media coverage regarding these specific allegations against the leading Republican candidate.

michele bachmann· rick perry· texas· nacogdoches· sheriff· c-span· campaign trail

15:37 And I picked up a few interesting tidbits that are kind of interesting for people who have, uh looking for meta concepts you know about some way some of these operations and also Chertoff got a bunch of Chertoff clips which need to be deconstructed. Let's roll with that Well, actually let's roll with something else just for starters to get it out of the way which is the Bachman bombshell question. She...Bachman by the way was floating around giving and she's very charming I think because they had the camera on her the whole time before and after and you know she was actually... John wait a minute John you've been away from home too long what do you mean she's charming? She's getting freaky!

16:15 No, I'm telling you when you see her at these open houses or whatever she does. She's actually pretty nice. Is she in real estate now? She does open houses? That's what it looks like so anyway So she's doing questions and answers with the audience and this little kid comes up And just drops his bomb on her and she doesn't know what to say about it And I don't know what to think about it and I think it needs looking into My question for you is this how do you as a mother feel about Texas Governor Rick Perry allowing a Texas sheriff to sell nude pictures of my three little sisters and me? Well that's quite a question. Thank you for asking, I'm glad that you're here in the audience today. I can't answer it dear because i don't have any information about it. I cannot do that and so I'm sorry just...I can't answer. I can ask it. Will you please check into it though

17:09 Well, I'm sure that now that you've put it out here. I have no doubt that it will be checked into so So there you go do we have one more question? Wow clip of the week he kicks it off clip for the week That's awesome wow! I was just like it just dropped me and obviously stunned her what That is Texas Governor Rick Perry allows a sheriff to sell nude photos of her and her little sisters This has got to be some big setup. You know we've got that guy who took out that ad you know saying if you had sex with Rick Perry, you know will help you out the acronym for the organization can feed me conveniently spells out cash CASH

17:57 So obviously they're going after this guy, but this is outrageous. I can't believe this isn't... Why isn't this all over the news? Front page! Because Rick Perry is set up to be a... In fact, during the last show we did and this show he has become the number one candidate. And you watch all these talk shows and they're all promoting him as the number one guy, the guy to beat! The guy just showed up and he's apparently a pervert! Let me just hear this again that was an awesome clip let me just hear it again. My question for you is this First of all, the kid is totally prompted The kid is like completely- he's got a script. By the way, Shirley Temple! Love it great job great job. How do you as a mother?

18:42 feel about Texas Governor Rick Perry allowing a Texas sheriff to sell nude pictures of my three little sisters and me? Well that's quite a question. Thank you for asking, I'm glad that you're here in the audience today. I can't answer it- She has a duty, Michelle Bachman has a duty to report this douchebag. She should be going to the authorities! She should call Napolitano! We've got PedoBear in Texas!" Well so you look up and go to Google and you'd go Rick Perry little girls news just as one possible search And you get nothing all you do is you get the stuff about him forcing vaccinations

19:35 Maybe we should change it to little girls nude. Yeah, because little girls of course is uh all the google juice is going to here It is knackerdoshus knackerdochis Here it is knackerdochis sheriff sold nude pics of little girl Naked doches sheriff's old new pics Texas Ricker will not investigate this former president of the let me open it up Where's my pedo bear jingle when you need it, this is great. I love this makes total sense This is like just a gossipy thing Yeah, well yeah But it doesn't matter it makes total sense that this guy's in the pedo bear at least circles He's the former president of the Sheriff's Association of Texas

20:23 You guys named, he's still nude pictures of children. He must be investigated. He will be investigated This is just a forum it's not even a news story nobody is covering this one way or the other The problem that I have if this isn't true which probably is who knows but why is there no cover saying this is scam or somebody setting him up John try this Try googling this Pictures of naked little girls It'd be a knock on the door if I Googled that. Yeah, exactly! Oh my goodness Well then let me just wow that's great clip of the week Bravo Let me uh let me give you my quick Perry clips

CHAPTER 05 / 29 Discussion

Federal Reserve Transparency, Rick Perry, Bruce Bartlett

Former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury Bruce Bartlett labels Rick Perry an "idiot" on CNN for calling the Federal Reserve's actions treasonous. The hosts critique a CNN segment where anchors defend Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke's transparency while holding up a single sheet of paper as a balance sheet. They argue the media is actively shilling for the central bank to prevent public "confusion" regarding monetary policy.

federal reserve· rick perry· bruce bartlett· cnn· ben bernanke· inflation· bank of america

21:09 I have a couple of course you probably heard if you've been on the interwebs. You probably saw this little C-Span diddy where Some dudes bag from Bank of America walks up and the microphones are hot They're on while c-span is running, and he says hey Bank of America here Don't worry We're gonna help you out Bank of America, we'll help you out. Yeah don't worry bank of america We're gonna help you out I love that that's how it works It's exactly how it works Wow yeah You didn't see that? You didn't hear about that? We'll help you out Had you seen that clip because I was amazed by it No! I missed that one Yeah so the-the-it was He's there shaking hands with people and then and the bank of america guy walks up And literally is like a bank of America Don't worry were going to help you out

21:58 Now then, on CNN... a former... I think he was the assistant or deputy secretary of the treasury Bruce Bartlett He comes out and he says exactly what he thinks about Rick Perry. Good clip. I mean, I hear this from you. I hear this from other reasonable people who are saying what we need to do make sure that the system can withstand whatever it is were facing in the world and then you here people like Rick Perry on a campaign trailer with Sarah Palin saying that Rick Perry's absolutely right and they're blasting the Fed and there's... Rick Perry saying the Feds treasonous! I don't think politically can the fed do anything else

22:39 Well, Rick Perry's an idiot and I don't think anybody would disagree with that. Who is that? That's Bruce Bartlett he's a former Deputy Secretary of the Treasury i think under maybe Clinton perhaps Bush but just love it just comes out in rolls off the tongue so nicely well Rick Perry's an idiot. It was perfect but what was interesting And this is actually that CNN show where those two women, you know the one I'm talking about? It's always on in the morning and they're like You know there they're so smart and they're so all over everything but they're not kind of hot They're not like... They just not. They just not Fox News hot their kind of well actually I'll give them a... MILF! That's one mother I'd liked of So i'll give him a little milfy credit

23:24 But now they're gonna be really smart and actually shill for the Fed at the end of this interview, the other one comes in I forget what her name is. And uh... And she says, well let's go back to that because you know words really matter and it is really bad when people say the Federal Reserve is treasonous because people can get confused. Just listen to how they shill for the Fed and they actually are going to hold up a piece of paper one sheet as if its the Feds balance sheet which they've read and understood. I just...you know going back to Rick Perry because Bruce you called Rick Perry an idiot

24:02 can you just expound on that i mean is this his kind of talk how was that affecting in our economic situation or the way americans understand what's happening in the economy well uh... to to the extent that he has people thinking but the fed doing its normal job as somehow rather a treasonous act is is grossly irresponsible and to the extent that people think that Perry knows what he's talking about. It does put a constraint on the Federal Reserve to be able to be more aggressive, which I think that it should be. The idea that we're debasing the currency is just the grossest nonsense! You can find the data as easily as I can and show that Ben Bernanke has probably had the lowest level of inflation as Fed chairman

24:49 than any Fed chairman in history. So if he's to be criticized for anything, it's deflation not inflation." And you hear all this about transparency Bruce and I mean I'm looking at the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve right in front of us It is more transparent today that has been in past 10 years or 20 years What? I mean really? The fed has been more transparent let me think didn't we have to sue over No, I think technically she's right. I'll tell you why. The wordage in Wars Matter was it is more transparent than it has ever been. That could be because they were so untransparent

25:40 Press conference one press conference, maybe two that in itself makes them more Okay transparent than they've ever been but it doesn't mean anything but them but the technically right? Okay But then for them to hold up one sheet of paper and go like yeah Yeah, we were just looking at the balance sheet over a cup of Sanka and wow it's so incredibly easy to understand but then... yeah well they're idiots. The MILF number two comes out with this. But it still sort of the same old conspiracy theories and criticisms that you keep hearing and I think Carol is really good point how Conspiracy theories yes conspiracy theories about the Fed the beast from Jekyll Island horrible horrible horrible

26:21 How does that hurt the healing process? It confuses people because they don't know who to believe or what to believe. Because when you use language like that, it makes it difficult to hear anything else. You hear the word treason and you're like... And you don't hear anything else. That's right. Treason. Alright I see our lag has just gotten a little worse John but we'll have to live with it over. Oh God! Over. Bill, I'm not hearing you now. No no I gotcha it's alright It's uh... It's just a minor interruption the NSA is tinkling with the wires we'll be back in a second it's okay all right The minute you hear me? I would say Come back good buddy and go on a tear We should have some music during this show so people can enjoy themselves

CHAPTER 06 / 29 Discussion

Executive Producers, Show 333 Club, New Knight

The hosts acknowledge several executive producers and donors contributing to the upcoming milestone episode 333. Adam Curry recounts a recent meetup in Hoboken, New Jersey, where he knighted E. Adam Atia using a pizza cutter following a thousand-dollar donation. They encourage listeners to join the "333 Club" to support the show's independent production model.

victor gregg· jerry lenski· dean bertram· hoboken· pizza cutter· knighthood· 333 club

27:21 I sound good again. Yeah, yeah you sound like crap It's alright go ahead automatically disconnect and automatically reconnect in some funny way. I think it interesting never seen that so well I sound like crap normally yeah hold on now We're just gonna reconnect this is gonna be one of those shows peeps sorry about that It's just your offline it says you've lost internet connectivity while I'm clearly not offline. I'm not I'm here Oh gosh Hold on a second, let me uh... get you some bishvat while that's taking place. That's funny! It says I'm offline. Interesting. Yet it lets me call the Skype bitch? There we go. Alright. It was saying I was offline which I clearly wasn't

28:17 Hello. Oh, well you are now I mean you're not now yeah all right i thought i'd call You to see if would change them No we guess not go ahead Why don't We thank our executive producer didn't help Now Not Really Yeah you're gonna have to obviously fill in here reading off the spreadsheet ready yep so we have Let's do one two three four Let's see. We have a lot of executive producers because we're getting up on show 333 and I want to remind everybody that 333 is the next show we do which will be a lot better quality than this one, mainly cause it'll be connected. So we got 1 2... We won't be using the string in tin cans! 6 executive producers beginning with Victor Gregg out of Atlanta Georgia contributing three four five six seven

29:11 for episode 332 and beyond. Asking for a plug for his business, entonomics dot com where software consultancy offering the services of Paladin in the 21st century have fun will travel in the morning as E-N-T-O Entonomics. Jerry Lenski, Memphis Tennessee 33333 sending a check rather than using PayPal to avoid our bankster overlords from getting a cut of our transaction for which they deserve nothing Hopefully the mail will be quick enough. I'll get credit for episode 333 like to add my voice of those requesting John to spread the word out on his different venues Hey, it's called channel Dvorak calm Yeah means like something everything means something that like a lot of people see well if you go to channel DeVore comm they would see it Then you have a lot of people yeah Maybe there'd be a hot pockets too

30:07 2009 tour next year because he wants you to come by and you can be sure that there's gonna Be a Hot Pockets 2009 tour next year back in the RV. You know what I think Have you been like texting with Mickey or something behind my back? Because she's like You know, we shouldn't stop. We should just do more of this." I'm like wait what? Yeah! She wants to do it a little differently where maybe will go to a state and then get a vehicle locally and then do one or two states in the region then go back home which i think is pretty good idea but in essence she's getting closer to your wish

30:44 Let me mention remind you of something that you've seemed to have forgotten in your initial idea You actually wanted to drive on the TransCanada highway to Alaska. Yeah, I still want to do that Just not just really it's not this week. I don't want to do it yet We're so tired John you know how tired we are And you seem grumpy. Dean Bertram in Accra, Ghana 333 33 that's nice we finally I think that's our first Afri-Ghani-Ghana guy from Ghana

31:23 Paul Groves, Keneton Victoria or Kyneton maybe. In the morning John and Adam here's 333-33 from Gitmo Nation down under have been on the $5 plan but now it's time to really be a donor after long trip to our nations capital all they kept me and my girlfriend Aggie Sane was your awesome show I may even have converted her into becoming a listener could i grab some karma please for myself and her? You've got Karma He also wants me to do the Hot Pockets imitation for his phone's next ringtone, which we'll do it. We'll do it on I tell you when a three three show and have a better connection. I'll do it for you then. So send me an email and remind me. OK? Robert Durden in Hoboken, New Jersey, who must have just seen 333 33 is for karma for up-and-coming trip in the 67 VW camper van from New Mexico to New Jersey

32:20 Oh, Balkan. Can I have my seven-year old son Tom dedouched in an attempt to get him to stop saying douchebag at the top of the voice? You've been dedouched No! He needs dedouching not karma. It says right there this is for karma for our upcoming trip and then i gave it a deduching except you're listening to it tomorrow instead of now when i'm doing it Right okay And then we have Baron Von Pelzmacher from Belgium, or that owns Belgium actually. 3333 hail the foots discon Alan Galuk Beringen on towards show 666 by the way show 666

33:16 Yeah, let's start a team for that Matthew stress and we want to thank the Baron for everything He's done Matthew stroh Holly Springs North Carolina 332. He's a member of three three two clubs real slaves are part of the 233 club yay for knighthood safe travels and finally WWOR X in Norwell, Massachusetts. Pronounce works WW or X. This is gassing for gassing up the RV as promised when Adam and Mickey were in Boston $200 you'll be the associate executive producer for today's show 332 want to remind everybody go to the Dvorak that org slash na channel of orac dot com slash NA and also no agenda show dot com and no agenda nation dot com where a you can

33:58 partaking in other sorts of things there. We'll talk about that at the break. Yeah, and then we have one more executive producer for today this is E.Adam Atia goes by the name Adam he showed up at our New Jersey-New York meetup in Hoboken New Jersey and he became a knight on the spot donating the required amount of $1,000 dollars in cash And I ignited him with a pizza cutter. Pictures to be found on the Hot Pockets Facebook page, it pains me to say it's on the Facebook page but I'll be writing up another blog post and we can put it on a safe haven so he also is an executive producer for today's program and of course will receive her his knighthood later on as John just said this is great that everyone is jumping on the 333 club membership because

34:49 it really is helping us in these dog days of summer and just to program your brain one more time. Dvorak dot org slash N A And I will be mentioning other Hot Pockets producers who helped us out at our meetup. Some PR mentions first, which do need to go out These are all domain names that forward to noagendashow.com and we got a couple of course you can find all these at domains dot na show notes calm We have kind of a cool system set up You can also find all the show notes for today's episode at three three two dot NA show notes comm So forwarding to the show we have crotch2012.com, not quite sure why but I like it. Politicalwasteland.com? Crotchperry.com Was there a crotch story with Perry that I missed outside of the pedo bear pictures?

CHAPTER 07 / 29 Discussion

Domain Name Forwards, Guinness World Records Rejection

The No Agenda community's attempt to set a Guinness World Record for the most domain names forwarding to a single site is rejected by the organization. Adam Curry expresses frustration, noting the irony of his ex-wife's inclusion in the book as the oldest Playboy playmate while his project is denied. New domains like crotchperry.com and stopignoringronpaul.com are added to the show's network.

guinness world records· ron paul· domains· playboy· dutch playboy· web traffic

35:39 We wish. Transportationsecurity.com, which is good because I can see people googling for that one and like that a lot And road2triplee.com Which could become... well Hillary might want to have that one one of these days Another forward thepresidentialrv.com Thank you very much Selma That's a good one as the Obama bus continues to roll throughout the The large wasteland of Gitmo Nation. Stop ignoring RonPaul.com, which I think could be... It is forwarding now to NoAgendaShow.com it could be so much more than just that! And it could actually be a... What's that, Don? Did you just buy me a lone wolf picture? I love it That's great- well you bought that at the camp store?

36:25 She had- at the camp store, she bought me a lone wolf picture. That's awesome! That's great! You didn't tell him why though did you? Okay. I love you too Donny. She can't come in the RV because if she does guaranteed th-the signal goes away So she's like outside in this-in the heat Poor girl And then finally, we got a note from our producer Alan from Gitmo Nation Cuckoo Clocks. In the morning John and Adam well it was worth to try but it seems like you need some kind of underwriting sponsorship advertising call it what you like before the Guinness Book of Records are interested I received a reply from them a few days ago stating the following Of course Alan was trying to get us into the Guinnes World Book of Records with a mention for the most independently registered domain names pointing to a single site

37:14 Here's what Guinness said, quote, We are afraid to say that we are unable to accept this as a Guinness World Record. As a consolation... Yeah, however Alan says it's a consolation prize I registered no world record for you dot com which of course is forwarding to No Agenda Show and yeah i think we should give them a big fat uh... These guys are clearly douchebags! This was a valid attempt. It sounds right to me.

37:51 Totally got jibbed. Well, you know what we can keep hounding them Yeah So anyway thanks to sick of it You know if you keep if you keep pounding them they're gonna get sick of it and they're gonna have to relent How sad is it that my ex-wife got into the Guinness World Book of Records as oldest playmate ever? And I can't even get like a couple domain name forwards in the Guinness World Book of Records Something wrong with that was playing mate ever yeah, yeah she was in the Dutch Playboy. She's 79 That's... 79. The lag is hilarious on this show! Anyway, thank you very much to E.Adam Antia for being an executive producer today and of course becoming a knight along with Victor Gregg Jerry Lenski Dean Bertram

38:40 Let me just scroll down here. Paul Groves, Robin Durden from Hoboken New Jersey Baron Steven von Pelsmachers Matthew Stroh and our associate executive producer Works from Boston We highly appreciate the support and of course we'll be thanking more people later on in our donation segment One more time to program the brain! These credits by the way are completely real you can put them on your IMDB You could do whatever you want with them And if anyone wants to know if they're for real unlike the phonies in Hollywood will vouch for it Just give us a call Meanwhile everybody else can go out and propagate the formula our formula is this We hit people in the mouth Go go so I had got a couple of things yeah here. I come oh

CHAPTER 08 / 29 Discussion

Democracy Now, Natural Gas Pipeline Leak Reporting

Democracy Now! is criticized for its reporting on a natural gas pipeline leak near the Missouri River. The hosts point out that the news outlet used footage of crude oil spills to illustrate a leak of natural gas, which is methane and would evaporate rather than coat a river. They characterize this as a deceptive media tactic designed to manipulate viewer perception of environmental incidents.

democracy now· missouri river· natural gas· exxonmobil· yellowstone river· methane· media assassination

39:56 that are just throwaways. I was watching Democracy Now, obviously they had that clip earlier but they also did a clip that i thought was abhorrent in terms of it just misreporting and miss communicating and misleading is the word I'm looking for there were misleading their viewers with this clip first let's play the clip as democracy now bad reporting Just look careful what she says and I'll tell you what you were looking at as they ran this clip. Another pipeline has ruptured near the flooded Missouri River basin, as much as 3300 barrels of natural gas leaked on Saturday near Iowa

40:36 The spill comes just a month after an ExxonMobil pipeline leaked 1,000 barrels of crude into the flooded Yellowstone River in Montana which feeds the Missouri River. Oh yeah this is where television really works on your brain so let me guess they were either showing the Exxon Valdez spill or they were showing the Gulf Coast BP spill? Well, first of all it was a... I forget how many. 30 thousand or 300 thousand doesn't make any difference. Barrels she says of natural gas. 33 by the way. So what is natural? It wasn't magic number. Okay, natural gas now. What is natural gas do it doesn't come in barrels evaporate? It's spill Barrels that just goes into the air and that's the end of its like a big bunch of cow farts right as methane So they say that did but then they could they just quickly mentioned it was very similar to the thousand barrels of oil That then they show this the river all covered with oil and then they

41:38 Show some, some real black with oil and they show a bunch of oil clips of oil in the river while reporting on a natural gas leak. I mean give me a break you phonies! Yeah well the dude Oh, by the way for those of you new to the program and I have a feeling we may have some new listeners who've been doing a lot of meetups and people are very motivated. First of all We don't usually suck this bad but this is all because of The Connection so tune in next week for a better show Second of all...we assassinate the media And what John just did is a fantastic example of that Of how-I mean it totally bullcrap reporting

CHAPTER 09 / 29 Discussion

Robert Reich, Television Debate Staging, Height Wiki

Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich describes an incident where a television producer instructed him to be "angrier" during a debate to prevent channel surfing. The hosts discuss the staged nature of cable news, noting that guests are often pre-screened for extreme positions to ensure entertainment value. They also jokingly advocate for adding Reich's physical height to his Wikipedia page.

robert reich· bill clinton· university of california· cnbc· ifb· media entertainment· height

42:18 I've got a clip which is kind of a throwaway. Robert Reich, you know him John? Yeah he's the former Secretary of Labor for Clinton and now he teaches at the University of California and he's actually only like four foot three I think something like that or short well he'd be good for Michelle Bachman But anyway, it's noteworthy because he actually cannot unless you have I think it takes two orange crates to get him up so he can be above a podium. So usually wanders around on stage when he speaks well as you've mentioned previously that should be on his wiki page we believe that everyone's height should be listed on their wiki page so go in and change it right now put in there height four foot three

43:01 So Robert Reich is doing one of his paid gigs at a university and he, of course is on television a lot. He's on news programs I guess he's a paid guy to do news hits right John? I'm not sure that he's getting he has a couple of books out. He does very well for himself And by the way, I want to mention two people out there where we mentioned the height thing It's because we believe it has some doesn't affect people's personalities and the way people perceive them That it's not because we care that he's short but yeah, we do what we like to short people What are you talking about? This is the only reason we want that

43:40 Here's Reich talking about one of his appearances on television and how it works. I was on a television show not long ago, and during the station...I was debating somebody, and during the station break in my ear, the producer said be angrier I said, you know, I thought we were having a very constructive debate. I actually enjoyed the debate. I think people were learning something. I don't want to be angry." She said, you have to be angrier. I said why? And she said because people are surfing through the channels and they will stop when they hear people shouting at each other and I said i'm not going to do it. She said you have to do it and then I lost my temper That's a good story by the way Yeah that clip is yeah that actually almost had that clip too uh for some reason I didn't clip

44:36 Uh, yeah. No that's classic if you work on any of these shows you did put an IFB in your ear but before even get booked generally speaking for example if you're going to do CNBC or any of these where they always have the talking heads they'll ask you in advance they'll tell you what the topic is and I say what's you have a side that you want to take? And he had to have a really strong side. You can't see well I could go either way. You're not getting on the show though exactly. He said, I think it's the worst idea in history. You're on the show And but you have to maintain that position. You can't go on the show and say, well maybe I'm wrong. You can't do that. You have to put...you have to be as it has to be interesting. It's entertainment is all there is. So what? Yeah yeah. The whole thing's a scam which is not what we... Yeah. You know what? We're probably gonna make this one of our shorter shows because this is very very difficult

CHAPTER 10 / 29 Discussion

Internet Explorer IQ Hoax, BBC Fact-Checking

The BBC and other major outlets are caught reporting a fake study claiming Internet Explorer users have lower IQs than users of other browsers. Despite warnings from mathematicians like David Spiegelhalter that the data was suspicious, the story ran globally before being revealed as a hoax by a non-existent PR firm. The hosts use this as an example of how easily dubious statistics enter the news cycle.

internet explorer· bbc· iq study· chrome· firefox· david spiegelhalter· pr hoax

45:36 Let me just wait until John comes back here. Now, there are two things I can do... ...I can post-produce the program and I can take out all of these annoyances or I can just leave it in and have a nice lunch with Miss Mickey That might be the way to go It's gonna catch up in a second! It's just someone using the porn interwebs Are you back with me my friend? So while we wait for John to catch up and his Skype to kind of reconnect I'm going to play a clip for you now Uh, you know what? It's no fun if John is not listening. I wish i could pause the recording that would be cool Yeah the stream is probably crap too Ah here we go Think we're getting better Are ya there? This is not gonna be good Hellooo Oh gosh This of course means that show 333 will be really good Ah there we go John you should be back with me now Yeah can I- You know something I've observed during this miserable show were doing

46:51 This is the only time we've been dropped off, we've been kicked off. Skype has said you can't stay, gotta go... I have not gotten one of those surveys. They usually when you get- Oh! Ha ha ha yeah exactly where's the survey now douchebags? Yeah, there's no survey saying what did you think of your connection? It was good. Was it sucky There's nothing I have yet to get one and we've been disconnected at least five times maybe six anyway while we can still hear each other like I can tell from my My meters here when we can and can't like for instance You're about to not be able to hear me remember that story John about the Internet Explorer people who use that supposedly were stupid

47:38 Yeah, the phony baloney story. So the BBC of course was one of the media outlets that ran with that story but what's interesting as turns out on believe it or not another BBC program It's a podcast so I don't know if its also broadcast on air The BBC actually Went and did some diligence on the story, called some people who would know about this. And they still ran the story! Listen to this... Well thank you very much Matt and stay with us because a different story caught my attention This week at the BBC website along with many many other media outlets reported that users of the popular internet browser

48:19 Internet Explorer had a lower IQ than users of alternative browsers such as Chrome and Firefox and Safari. And this got an awful lot of play, an awful lot of users of Firefox, Chrome, and Safari I think spread this story around. And it seemed a bit suspicious to me. And then we were discussing it just before we came into the studio, Matt and apparently the BBC called you for your expert advice on this story. What did you tell them? Well I was one of the mathematicians that they checked with which is very good of them all my normal PR alarm bells went off because it came from the PR wing of a company and as I pointed out in her self-selecting sample yeah so I raised my usual it looks like a PR press release bit of statistics and I'd be very cautious

49:04 But nevertheless, they ran with the story. They did and they spoke to more eminent mathematicians than me as you saw David Spiegelhalter. His friend of more or less David Spiegelhalter professor for the public understanding of risk at Cambridge University and they did quote David Spiegelhalter Yes I got trumped And when David Spiegelhalter basically says it's nonsense because...or at least it is highly suspicious because the intelligence that are reporting for Internet Explorer users about 80 which is actually extremely low these people really would have trouble functioning in front of a computer full stop. What struck me as strange is you told them it was suspicious, David Spiegelholtz told them it was suspicious... To their credit they asked you and they published David Spiegelholtz's response but nevertheless they went ahead and published the story And then there was a twist! A day or so later they withdrew the story replaced this story because it turns out that PR company itself doesn't seem to exist

49:57 seems to have been a hoax. Now, what do you make of that? I think this is great because when one of these press releases comes out they ask if few people but the story still runs regardless how dubious the data may be and obviously this is all different media outlets on this occasion the company happened not exist And at that point they had to pull the press release. But, to be honest there are countless other equally dubious press releases that have been turned into stories and are still out there So the BBC appears to think the only crime is to be a non-existent public relations... Yeah if you exist you can make up some data and thats fine I guess Ok well Matt Parker, The Stand Up Mathematician Thank You Very Much There ya go That's how it works Thats your BBC doing it for ya and actually reporting on the atrocities themselves very interesting

CHAPTER 11 / 29 Discussion

Ecstasy Cancer Cure, Obamacare Propaganda

A news story claiming a derivative of the drug Ecstasy can cure leukemia is deconstructed as a targeted PR campaign against Obamacare. The hosts explain that the research involved only three patients and focused on genetically modifying white blood cells, but the media used the "Ecstasy" hook to gain attention. The segment eventually pivots to claims that government healthcare regulations will stifle such expensive medical breakthroughs.

ecstasy· leukemia· obamacare· fox news· pharmaceutical industry· genetic engineering· chemotherapy

50:44 Well, there's a story floating around this week that I think could be a hoax. But I thought it was hilarious anyway Was this the ecstasy story? No what's that one tell me Oh no This is great and I have actually have a clip of that too It's a total plant so apparently a derivative or some form of ecstasy is now able to stop cancer dead in its tracks. And this is like, so everywhere the reporting is ecstasy! Ecstasy! Ecstasy! It'll cure cancer and illegal drug ecstasy! So I'm looking around trying to find someone who's actually talking about this

51:25 And it turns out that this is all a setup to, you know for people just talk about Obamacare. It has nothing to do with ecstasy at all in fact even more abhorrent This entire ecstasy thing is really about genetically modifying people to fix them check it. Sticking with us tonight scientists announcing two breakthrough cancer treatments tonight one of which is actually derived from the illegal drug ecstasy. But, the potentially life-saving treatments could be in jeopardy because of Obamacare! For details we're joined now by Dr David Samadi and Dr Mark Siegel. Doctors great to see you both. Thank You. So Dr Samadi first tell us about these treatments what are they how do they work? Well this is a great research that's being done for treatment of leukemia and it's very exciting because traditionally this has been treated with chemotherapy radiation and which has a lot of systemic side effects

52:13 Now we're going from that type of treatment to a very targeted treatment. So they have taken the blood from the patient, they have re-engineered and changed it white blood cells which are their soldiers or defense mechanism of the body put it back in their body and were able to regenerate and fight cancer cells now they've taken care three patients and what's interesting about this is... This is a study they've done on 3 patients and this all over the... ecstasy! ecstasy! ecstasy! three patients and It's like it's some derivative of the drug that they that they use to basically genetically modify the white blood cells

52:52 And now the whole thing is about how the procedure is too expensive and it could prolong your life but Obamacare's gonna kill you. The side effects are minimum because they're attacking only the cancer cells so its a great research... But all of our stories we hear about chemotherapy aren't true with these drugs? Exactly right, so it's all in-about targeted therapy in cancer which is very exciting Alright now we gotta get to the specifics here How would Obamacare thwart the use of these drugs. And there you go, and it just goes on and on and on... It's nuts! Just a promotion for Obamacare? That's funny

CHAPTER 12 / 29 Discussion

Alien Invasion, Global Warming Hoax, NASA Bloggers

Fox News reports on a purported NASA study suggesting aliens might attack Earth due to rising greenhouse gas emissions. The hosts reveal the "study" was actually a speculative paper written by a few bloggers, one of whom worked at NASA, rather than an official agency report. They argue the story was used by various media factions to either mock environmentalists or create a new fear-based narrative.

nasa· penn state· global warming· aliens· fox news· greenhouse gases· lou dobbs

53:28 Well, actually it's promotion against Obamacare. They're saying that because of ObamaCare you can't have this wonderful treatment But the PR company was smart. Yeah they propagandized it under the ecstasy illegal drug meme and it really has nothing to do with it It is like some derivative or one of the chemicals for ecstasy but its really all just about the pharmaceutical industry wanting to get paid Well, there's one another hoax out there about aliens would it will enslave us because of global warming that was another one Which which I couldn't figure out if it was because it was right around mostly on places like Fox Mm-hmm, but they used it to mock

54:15 the global warmists. And so you have to wonder who's, you know some of these propaganda tricks, you don't know who what side are they promoting? Are they actually trying to scare people into believing in the global warmists or are they trying to make people think that global warmists are nuts! So sometimes you just can't You have to kind of figure out what's who's the where's the propaganda headed? But this is a way the news story typically ran on on a Fox station. Well, he says maybe it's me I don't know and climate change scientists are taking their global warming threats to a whole new level outer space Reach researchers at Penn State actually laid out a number of scenarios as to why aliens may someday attack Earth And one of them is because humans are spewing way too much carbon dioxide

55:00 into the atmosphere. They speculate that extraterrestrials may be so angered by greenhouse gases they could quote kill us, enslave us or potentially eat us Both Al Gore and Joe Paterno have remained silent on these new theories, though I wonder if the faculty and students there at Penn State ever looked into the works of Edmund North. Yeah so this turns out to be a big hoax actually it actually was written but these were basically a couple of bloggers and you can only imagine what their agenda was one of them is an administrative...I don't know if he's an assistant because you know of course I'm all over this right? I see aliens I'm like yeah

55:39 Hey baby! See, this is gold for the show. But no it's a guy who actually works somewhere inside NASA and when you see the reports even the written reports it's like NASA'S REPORT! Yeah study shows No... And by the way that douchebag from Fox he does like red eye isn't that what he does? That guy is such a dick This is a different guy. This isn't the red-eye guy, this is somebody else who was doing some weekend news reporting who I've never seen before he was sitting in for Lou Dobbs and I've never seen the guy before but he's a classics Fox guy you know it's all worked up about stuff yeah It's all just meant to distract us from the real stuff going on

CHAPTER 13 / 29 Discussion

Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan Gold Reserves, Nigel Farage

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez announces the nationalization of gold mines and the withdrawal of $11 billion in gold reserves from Western banks to move them to Russia and China. Nigel Farage joins the discussion via clip, predicting that gold could double in value as the Western financial system faces a protracted banking crisis. Adam Curry sets a personal price target of $2,750 per ounce for selling his holdings.

venezuela· hugo chavez· gold reserves· nigel farage· goldman sachs· commodity trading· eurozone

56:21 Like yeah, well there is something something real going on and I will play this clip for you And I will follow it by the appropriate jingle ready Chavez is pulling 11 billion dollars in Venezuelan gold reserves from banks in the US Europe and Canada The Venezuelan president says the move is designed to nationalize his country's gold mines and diversify its investments. Chavez also said he is moving assets from what he called sinking economies, to places like China Russia and Brazil. Chavez is doing the whole copper mine thing only he's doing it with gold and by the way John Let me just check. Is it time to sell gold yet now that we've hit? eighteen hundred and eighty dollars per ounce almost I'm gonna make a prediction get out more. I'm watching it closely. It's getting close to being

57:19 It's alright. I love you. What, are you gonna predict it goes to 2,000? No! No, I would never predict it goes to 2000... ...I'm going to predict and this is when I will go and sell my gold 2750 Write it down Johnny boy. I did. It's written down in the red book which people still want me just take a picture of And I will. And should I tell you why because a good friend of mine has actually come out and backed me up Who was that good friend That good friend is Nigel Farage. Watch this gold move. Well I spent 20 years as a commodity broker and trader, but i dealt with precious metals and base medals ever since I left the metal markets and got into politics they've all gone through the roof so all my friends who work in metal say please Nigel don't come back stay in politics because we're having a great time without you

58:17 I mean, it is very difficult to predict what gold is going to do given that in 1998 it was $275 an ounce and this morning its trading at over 1700. But if you ask me where would I want my money to be in gold and silver or bank shares, I think I know what the answer is. I suspect we haven't seen the worst yet. I think that all that happened in 2008 is that we deferred the banking crisis. It's now coming back to bite. I understand that Goldman Sachs are saying it could go to $2,500 by the end of the week I think it is impossible to predict, but it's not impossible that gold could double again from here. It just not impossible! The world... the western world finances are in the most horrifying mess Our banking industry has been allowed to get completely out of control We've got a eurozone crisis in Europe that is far far far from over and yeah if I was long gold I would stay long gold There you go

CHAPTER 14 / 29 Discussion

Hershey Factory Strike, Millennial Work Ethic

Hundreds of international students on a State Department exchange program walked out of their jobs at a Hershey's chocolate plant in Pennsylvania, citing exploitative conditions. The students complained about eight-hour night shifts and the physical requirement of lifting heavy boxes. The hosts mock the students' grievances, contrasting them with the expectations of previous generations regarding entry-level manual labor.

hershey· pennsylvania· democracy now· state department· cultural exchange· visas· labor strike

59:24 Okay, I'll hold on to my coin Single coin. Oh yeah, how long? I'll I can see this happening it would probably happen when the economy hits rock bottom in 2013 Which is a mess not that far away gets two years and gold doesn't move you know moves but doesn't you know it doesn't go crazy and And I'm just getting the biggest kick out of this double dip thing, which is not a double dip at all. It's always been part of the same process since the beginning. Nobody's in here and here's the thing that really gets me. In fact we play this clip of this kid in the noodle shop. Oh you want to hear that again? You don't want to hear that again do ya? Well you might wanna hear it again after you listen to this one there was a story that came out-this was on Democracy Now! A bunch of exchange students were brought over from the same generation of millennials

1:00:18 You know, you thought the X generation was slackers. These guys are like wow! They brought a bunch of kids over and they gave them jobs at Hershey's at the factory and then if you listen to this description it's like apparently they're on the candy line and they have to pack boxes of Skittles And which entails like working on the, they didn't give them a choice job that normal workers have. They gave them this night shift which starts at 11pm very common shift in any factory that works 24 hours a day there's three shifts graveyard swing and and day. I mean, this big no big deal you work one of these shifts especially if you're looking for work most people starting off have to work graveyards it's not unusual but these kids apparently came over they didn't want graveyard i guess they wanted to be the ceo just like that noodle shop kid which will play later if you feel like

1:01:10 And they went on strike, and they said these conditions are terrible. We have to lift boxes... we have to work on an assembly line..and we have to work at 11 so they all quit! Because I don't know what it was beneath them? There was actual work involved you know this is funny because this is exactly what our producer Michael said uh we stayed his in Sarah's house in Chikshinny he said he wanted to hire some kid he thought he would get a college kid to go mow the lawn And, uh... and you know he could find lots of kids who were willing to sit on the lawnmower and drive around but he said you gotta pull some weeds in there like No I'm not gonna get my hands dirty. I'm not gonna pull any weeds! I'll sit on the tractor but no, no weeds this is nuts

1:01:57 I guess this is where i play the clip then. Hundreds of students taking part in a state department cultural exchange summer program walked out of their job at a Hershey's chocolate plant in Pennsylvania, the students said their jobs are exploitative and in many cases grossly failed to cover the costs they spent on visas in their home countries The students have reportedly been required to lift heavy boxes work eight hour shifts beginning 11 at night and stand for long periods of time while packing Reese's Candies, Kit Kats and Almond Joys on a fast-moving production line. Wow! Is that unbelievable? They have to work eight hour shifts?! Oh my god in lift boxes?! And they all quit?! And they have to work an eight hours shift?! Oh no! And they all quit!? That is unbelievable...

CHAPTER 15 / 29 Discussion

Noodles Restaurant Union, Ivy League Hiring Bias

A viral clip features a young employee at a Noodles restaurant advocating for a worker-led dictatorship and the abdication of the owner's authority. The hosts attribute this mindset to the "spoiled" upbringing provided by Baby Boomers and the inflated expectations set during the dot-com boom. They also discuss reports that major companies are now exclusively hiring from Ivy League schools, leaving most graduates without career prospects.

noodles restaurant· unionization· baby boomers· dot-com boom· ivy league· employment· college graduates

1:02:50 It's bullcrap, play the noodle kid! Yeah I've been looking for this stupid noodle. Oh here i got him hold on a second Ask and thou shalt receive Well like I described earlier there are two fundamental classes that are just a plain fact in society You either work for someone else or you work for yourself And most people work for someone else In the way that they aren't free You don't really get to decide your work. For example, I work at Noodles a restaurant and basically it's a dictatorship there We're told exactly what we're going to cook how are you gonna cook it? What time are we gonna get there and basically if they don't like what they're doing They try to tell us what to do If they don't listen they get rid of us And so we aren't able to actually cooperate in a way that we make decisions together I tried to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Noodles So as a source of power

1:03:42 to start with. And then I think in terms of the bigger picture, when you look at revolutions the way that you actually get rid of any sort of dictatorship is by having workers take control of the place where they work Would your plan...your vision for noodles Sure would it include the owner? What capacity would he be granted? If the owner wanted to cooperate with us as an equal and provide his skills that he had, we would definitely cooperate with him. We'd have to abdicate his position as being an owner and controller of us And he would have to recognize that...we- we run noodles together and basically if he doesn't want to cooperate with us He's against us. He's against us Classic Why are these kids learning in school? I'd like to know! Well you be- You'd be- You'd be- Yeah I mean

1:04:49 You know what, I'd like to try something here for a second John. Uh...I'm going to see if i can downgrade the stream just one tick and maybe that'll help us out you could hear me now right? Let me just downgrade this stream let's see if that makes any difference or helps us out it might okay so Yeah, okay. So now we're back it may make a difference I don't know may not it's hard to tell when people are walking around outside the RV you know all right anyway Well whatever the case is like I still want what are these kids learning in school that drives them to this? These crazy beliefs that they can't stand for eight hours or they're being exploited The guys in Hershey, Pennsylvania said there were being exploited because they had to work eight hours

1:05:40 Yeah, it's uh... they're slaves! Oh. They were being treated like slaves this is uh Unfortunately I think it's your generation's fault You know you guys would just in general the baby boomers I think the baby boomers said you know all my children will have everything that I didn't have and we'll make It all great for them And they just became spoiled brats I'm not going to argue against the thesis that it's the baby boomers fault because i think is the babies room or fault that we have a cocaine problem in this country. Yeah all that blow you did man, you ruined us! It's just...it's a problem but but the fact is is that you know it's...I don't know? The whole thing is ridiculous I could never...

1:06:35 I get this and then the support that they get from the demagogues, all of them are being exploited made to work for a living. I mean that doesn't help I'll also say that my generation is partially to blame. The dot-com boom, which of course i was a big part of and we were hiring kids even without a college degree. Here's $150 000 dollars a year here's a cell phone here's a laptop what hey you need a car okay we'll get you a lease car and uh... And that also propagated but you know what they're gonna learn real quick and some of them some of these kids from these noodle kids guess what? They're going to die! Well they end up dying in a hostel

1:07:17 in a hostile environment. The dot-com phenomenon did ruin, I think helped ruin the country because of the high salaries that idiots got and then when they all these companies reorg'd If you haven't noticed, they take the... They get rid of the experienced people that are mature and they left all these dingbats in charge of everything. No it's even worse than that! Companies that ARE hiring which I've heard from a number of our producers who actually work at companies that do hire people It's so easy for them, everyone is looking for work. They just exclude everyone who hasn't been to an Ivy League school So if you're in college right now forget about it If you're not in Harvard or Yale or Princeton You are not even being considered Right? Yeah Oh God

CHAPTER 16 / 29 Discussion

Bill Clinton, Vegan Diet, Health Concerns

Bill Clinton discusses his transition to a strict vegan diet with Dr. Sanjay Gupta, revealing he has cut out all meat, fish, and dairy. The hosts comment on Clinton's physical appearance, suggesting he looks "zombie-like" and may be suffering from a lack of essential nutrients. They debate the long-term health effects of extreme dieting and the necessity of animal protein for cognitive function.

bill clinton· sanjay gupta· veganism· nutrition· turkey· protein· health

1:08:15 Alright, we really can't interact on this show. Why don't I just tell you a little story and then you tell me your story and then we just kind of leave it at that? There's no other way. Alright, I'll play a clip for ya This is Bill Clinton who is talking to Sanjay Gupta! Our resident medical alien as Anderson Cooper calls him And uh... Bill Clinton Have you seen how Bill Clinton looks lately He looks like a little zombie. Yeah, his face is all breaking out You know he's got like... Now he didn't have the great complexion to start with but of course this was the guy who was eating burgers and hot dogs and drinking beer And according to some doing tons of blow and other things we know about But it is faces like its got all kinds of yeah It's like pimples and it does not look good Well I submit that because of this... The fact that you love to eat

1:09:12 I like the stuff, yeah. I like the vegetables and fruits and beans that... The stuff right now I like it. Do you call yourself a vegan? Uh-uh, yeah! Well, I suppose I am if I don't eat dairy or meat or fish, you know So you've cut all that out. I mean do you crave it? The only thing once in awhile literally well over a year now at Thanksgiving I had one bite of turkey. One bite of turkey! Bill, you're dying Get a hamburger Have some meat man quick How did he get so- You know the problem is it's one of these things where you start to uh

1:09:55 Lose brain cells with this this diet of need has any milk. He doesn't eat no dairy, which means no cheese No and no protein no fish. No no meat real meat. No chicken nothing he's just eating beans Which has got to be bland and missing all kinds of nutrients? I mean they're good But you know so what and farting a lot my would guess oh man. I bet that guy says smelly farts And he's got to be, I mean he just must be falling apart. You know all those little things you need to keep greased up? I don't know. Yeah well this is not good and another guy, another vegan bites through the dust. Yeah and you read it all the time. Vegans...I'm sorry! You've gotta have some kind of meat or fish in your diet that's what we're built for. I mean i'm against cutting back but It's funny because We've talked to so many different people

CHAPTER 17 / 29 Discussion

Sweet Potato Experiment, Budnip Chemical, Monsanto

A viral YouTube video featuring a young girl's science experiment reveals that supermarket sweet potatoes are sprayed with a chemical called Budnip (chlorpropham) to prevent sprouting. The hosts discuss the prevalence of herbicides in the food supply and express skepticism toward "organic" labels in grocery stores. They suggest that consumers are unknowingly consuming chemicals designed to extend the shelf life of produce.

sweet potato· budnip· chlorpropham· organic food· monsanto· herbicide· youtube

1:10:50 who look very healthy by the way on this road trip and without a doubt all of them are using real butter or lard sometimes they're cooking with lard, they are eating meat you know in moderation everything in moderation their own vegetables etc. By the way there's this great YouTube video someone tweeted us about This is like I don't know it was like 9 or 10 year old girl did you see this YouTube video about the sweet potato John? No. Ah, so she um... I'm just gonna play a little bit of the clip and you can find it in the show notes at 332.nashownotes.com So she did an experiment with her grandma She takes a sweet potato And puts it into her glass You know, you stick your little toothpicks in it And she's waiting for it to sprout We went- Me and my grandma went to the grocery store To get some potatoes A sweet potato

1:11:44 All you do is put a sweet potato in a glass of water and wait for it to grow vines. She's grabbing the sweet potato here. We took a sweet potato and waited for three weeks, nothing happened. We took another potato and waited for three more weeks, nothing happened! So we talked to the produce man at the store and he said well These will never grow vines. At the farms, they spray them with a chemical called Budnip. You should try one of our organic sweet potatoes." And over a month it finally... these wimpy little vines. Over that time we went to Ritz Market, Ritz Organic Food Market

1:12:47 and got a sweet potato there. It only took one week for it to sprout, and look at it now! So the experiment she did obviously is she got a sweet potato from the supermarket... ...it has been sprayed to not sprout any stalks which the grocer was happy to tell her then she gets uh yeah budnip it's a chemical chlorpropum Which apparently is not a safe thing. You better wash your potatoes if you're... Wow, just as John was getting into it we lose the connection wow alright I'll have him come back to the budnip Hello! Comeback connection Oh boy there we go I'm sorry John i think i still have ya Go back to the budnip the chlorpropyl and whatever its called Hello?

1:13:49 It's kind of what it used to be like when we were calling overseas, my grandparents in 1965. There we go you're back? Yeah. Alright go back to the Budnip and say... Yeah I was saying Budnip and looking it says chloropropum uh I'm not sure this is the actual chemical name but I'm gonna I'm wicking it yeah it's one of these chemicals you put on potatoes I never thought much about it since i bought my potatoes from a kind of an organic place and they're always budding. Uh, it's weird. Chloro chloropropan that became clear and simply yet illuminating at a yeah. I guess you that video is, is alerted people to the fact that they're using this as classic. They start using this stuff out of the blue. I never heard of this before and they never thought much about it. But now that digital girl does a video we realize that again, they're poisoning us because these guys, they can't move their produce fast enough so they spray it. So you get to buy old stuff

1:14:52 It's nasty, but the thing that got me the most is that she actually gets something from the organic section and it grows like one wimpy little leaf. That's just as phony. Yeah, you gotta go to the vendor itself yeah. Yeah it's organic my ass they have a farmers market in Berkeley that is like this on Thursdays I think and it's like uh it's got it blocks off one of the streets up by the uh up into area around Chez Panisse and they it says it's Berkeley's organic farmers market and everything there is supposed to be organic. And who the heck, you know you can just do anything you want and say it's organic at a farmers market. Who's worried? Is there any inspectors or the police gonna come in and tell ya to shut it down cause your not organic? Who knows what your getting! I would guess that most organics stuff is bull crap

1:15:46 I know what you're getting. Monsanto! That's what you're gettin'. A good dose of Monsanto, everybody. Enjoy your sweet potato with Budnip brought to you by the fine folks at Monsanto. Yay! Yeah herbicides are not good things to be eating Before we get to our donation segment, I do want to pause at the drone nation portion of the program. As we highlighted over the past couple shows John you discovered through a C-Span clip that there are 7000 drones well that's just the beginning and now we hear this bull crap that we wanna put

CHAPTER 18 / 29 Discussion

Drone Technology, Robo Soccer, Military Funding

The U.S. Army enters a memorandum of understanding with Middle Tennessee State University to develop Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) technology. The hosts highlight the massive scale of the drone industry, noting the existence of the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International. They also critique the Navy's funding of a "Robo Soccer" team as a questionable use of taxpayer money.

drones· middle tennessee state university· uas· c-span· robo soccer· navy· unmanned vehicles

1:16:25 Vets who come back from Afghanistan and Iraq, who apparently have drone experience which is not true because they're flying them all from here. From the woods in Langley We're just more and more drones. So two clips, this one is just to illustrate this is the Middle Tennessee State University who have a memorandum of understanding with the Defense Department about well... Partnership with the United States Army in the exploration and development of UAS technology and training A memorandum of understanding, they'll be paid by the US Army to develop drone technology at MTSU. Awesome! Now... So I'm like looking around for drone stuff This is gonna kill ya There- and of course this is actually kinda cool thanks to It's funny cause if you're on cspan dot org

1:17:30 and you want to find some cool stuff, just search for the word budget because then all the most recent things where people are trying to steal our tax dollars will pop up. And it turns out there was a conference this past week for The Association of Unmanned Vehicle Systems International! Did you know there was such an association John? Wow is it association for everything yeah It's the AUVSI dot org And of course you can look at the board of directors if you want, I'm happy to tell you a few of them. Colonel Timothy Healy... We've got all kinds of- oh these are the new directors.

1:18:15 Lieutenant General Rick Lynch, everyone who's retired is on the board of this. This is an industry that is so outrageously large they have their own association it's so big that they put it on... sure its summer months but they put there keynotes on C-SPAN And when you see, they have a fair basically. A... You know like a conference and there's like 20 different kinds of drones John! This is- it's They've got the underwater drones They've got the little teeny ones They've got the big ones They've got the Reapers They got the Raptors It's just everything you want and then if you wanna know how stupidly our money is being spent We have uh The keynote speaker Admiral Rough Head Listen to this

1:19:03 Well, thanks John for the introduction and I'm also here to reclaim our national honor. As many of you know who may follow World Cup soccer are women fought valiantly but lost to the women's team of Japan our great friend and allies But the Navy-sponsored Robo Soccer Team defeated Japan yesterday, so I think we're even in that regard. The Navy-sponsored Robo Soccer Team? Really?! I like it! Can we get coverage of that please? I wouldn't mind watching that... I'd watch it! Yeah but we're paying for a robo soccer team!?

CHAPTER 19 / 29 Discussion

Donation Segment, Hoboken Meetup, Knighting Ceremony

The hosts read a list of donors and executive producers, including a contribution from Jupiter Broadcasting. Adam Curry provides details on the New York-New Jersey meetup held at Benny's Pizza in Hoboken, thanking Sir Daniels for hosting the event. They announce the final week for purchasing the "333 coin" and acknowledge several new members of the No Agenda Roundtable.

hoboken· benny's pizza· sir daniels· knighthood· bitcoin· jupiter broadcasting· 333 coin

1:19:50 What a waste of the taxpayers money that's gotta be. Yeah, here's what you could do with your money I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That'd be fab On KnowAgenda Morning We do have some donors uh they came in i want to mention uh A couple of them Uh Joel CoolDesign $11.11, Princeton Ontario Canada Steven Bighton BEIGHTON in Bali GOWNDOWN not sure where that is it's the way it came through on the spreadsheet sorry hundred dollars Jupiter Broadcasting LLC in Marysville Washington In The Morning guys first time donor more to come great work on these last few weeks big ups to Adam for getting it done well on the road well that's until today that is

1:20:47 and check us out at jupiterbroadcasting.com, long live Bitcoin! He actually sent his real money. Timothy Noosey in Whitby Ontario 6666, Mark Caudill in Alexandria Virginia. Hey Mark, 50 for the double niggas on the dime. Been a while since I donated in a few shows back my brother Sir Ben Caudill called me out as a douchebag Please commence with the... Patrick Kobel in Nashville Tennessee Sir Patrick to you

1:21:27 Oh really? Yeah, yeah. Remember I knighted him at Sir Jeff Smith's bar. Okay well he is not listed as a sir on here. He'll fix it man. Buzzkill Jr says he will fix it. Nashville Tennessee double nickels on the dime in the morning John and Adam like to get a birthday shout out we've got that listed You're listening to this show, he's won. Listening to the show every night since he was three months old hopefully you'll mold into a good little human resource and put this towards the future knighthood in no agenda domains I made a couple weeks ago. Pointing to NoAgendashow.com including...you want to read these off? You're handling this. Sure! Beendoingthat.com Bodyscannerradiation.com CallofDutyterrorist.com

1:22:07 carboncreditscams.com, gitmonationtour.com, monsantoiskillingyou.com, monsantownstheworldscrops.com, obamaclutchcar.com and obamasprivatejet.com Many of these URLs by the way prominently displayed on the side panels of The Duchess Fantastic. Schnorrstein in Norway at 5... Schnorr, yes 5432 the donation is the name of my friend Johan 14 assassinated oh he was killed and Horatio killed by the polar bear 30 miles from here. Oh that sucks. Bradley Serbu in Naples Florida $50 Greg Stierle in Santa Monica $50 a harsh

1:23:02 Shad Patel in Bilston, West Midlands. 50 bucks and we also want to mention Scott Hankel who's looking for a job we do have dimension they know agenda nation dot com go to no agenda nation dot com slash jobs is a special site that will Take you to a back into Craigslist and Search for job over the country for you, and it's just as you have to go do it directly You're not going to get to it any other way And also we should mention this will be the last week of the 333 coin which no agenda nation has For sale for people who want to celebrate next week show which is showed 333 Which would be a lot better than this one so I remind you to go to know agenda show comm Devorah org slash na

1:23:43 Channel of our comm slash na and no agenda nation calm it to help us out Could we could do we could use the celebratory income and a couple of hot pockets producers? I need to thank who also belong on the list these are people who have been coming up giving us well sometimes water in blankets, but also cash checks and other forms, no Bitcoin. This is from our New Jersey-New York meetup which was held at Benny's Pizza Place there in Hoboken, New Jersey Which has changed by the way John! Hoboken used to be like you know... Like young college kids they all stayed now there are strollers everywhere It turned out to be really nice it's a really nice town

1:24:26 A family neighborhood. Family neighborhood, so at the meetup which was quite a hoot and I got to talk about that in a second Zamir Hamoud $20 Stephen Tesler $33 for a podcast license Edward Bradley $100 Steven Kulhan $30 Murph $88.43 Ben Nydus $70 Alex Walensky $40 of course we mentioned Sir Adam Atia will be knighted officially in a moment with his one thousand dollar donation Alex Croke, $100. Allen Sparrow, $100 and Richard Hroznek who was donated before, $100 And of course big mentions- big thanks to Sir Daniels who picked us up at the Marina & RV Park in a chauffeur town car I might point out which was very nice for a change

1:25:14 And he also picked up the majority of the tab for the pizzas and drinks. I know a lot of people chipped in, but I think he kind of got stuck with most of the bill But he did not complain and we highly appreciate that Thank you so much Sir Daniels for doing that it was nice bumping rings with ya Which sounds dirtier than it really is. As John said, this support is invaluable to us and you will remember to donate... devorak dot org slash n a because we program your brain And I do have the newest send by Buzzkill Jr., which includes Richard Hyde

CHAPTER 20 / 29 Discussion

Karma Requests, DUI Arrest, True American Journalists

A listener shares a story of being arrested for a DUI while his car was parked and locked, leading to a forced blood draw and a legal battle. Other listeners request "triple doses of karma" for job searches and family matters. The hosts reflect on their role as "true American journalists" and thank the audience for funding their cross-country travel and production costs.

karma· dui· medical cannabis· california· journalism· paypal· investment

1:25:54 On the birthday list. I think i have that one hold on let me just check uh yeah, i've got that one couple of karma shoutouts duane parker says hey adam i've donated um I've been attempting to get out from under this house i bought for no effing reason If you could give me a small karma shout out that would be great on here it gets worse on thursday night early friday morning i was arrested for a dui By the way, my car was locked and parked. I didn't even have my keys on me When I finally took a breath test at the station, I blew a 0.6. Heh, I've blown better than that! They then found my medical cannabis in my pockets... Whoops! ...which they searched twice in the field Then forcibly drew blood from me even though I had complied Uhh..I got a bitch of a court fight ahead of me because these cops are shakedown artists On top of that, my consulting job just ended and I'm desperate- I am in desperate need of one of these uhh

1:26:51 100 or so resumes I sent out to actually pan out. Wow, so the thing that gets me on that- Wait wait wait wait what town was this? He doesn't mention that in his email unfortunately but uh... We need to know about this Well we do need to know because it's crazy you get arrested for a DUI with your car being locked and don't even have your keys on it On ya I mean, what's next? Dude! I hope your dog doesn't die. How much worse can it get?! So here it comes my friend... You've got a big dose of karma coming your way. We also have a make-good here Scott Hankel

1:27:33 He donated $3.31 for the 3-31 show PayPal unfortunately lost the note, here it reads as follows I've been a listener since the beginning of the year due to John's plug on Twit When he is on As well that catchy donation jingle of his Very nice Great show too bad you guys are only true American journalists out there in this day and age Hey! That should be TrueAmericanJournalist.com We need a lot more folks like yourselves that will actually report the true news and call out the lies our idiots so-called leaders are spreading. Kudos to you two! Anyhow, thought that an A should be would help fund Adam's trip back to the Republic of California or John's trip out

1:28:13 to the last stop before Adam and Miss Mickey head back. One last thing, if possible I'd like to get a triple dose of karma one for the wife in her quest to find a job The other for us acquiring and funding our first investment properly Lastly To both of us in hopefully creating a little human resource to help propagate the message So when we do the triple karma? I give it a little ding there We give the Karma And John will hit you up with a ding afterwards You've got Karma We need some karma for this crappy ass connection. All right, thank you all very much highly appreciated For keeping us on the road As John said the next show will be the big 333 show super karma if you hop on the three three three donations Karma does seem to work we receive nothing but great reports about it, but we don't sell it

1:29:06 All we do is just observe it and it does seem to work and the magic numbers seem to play into it And as always the mind control is Dvorak.org slash N A It's your birthday, birthday! Oh no And today we congratulate Paul Groves. His birthday is actually on the 23rd, so that's coming up in just a couple days Keith Gills 40th birthday this Thursday Patrick Coble Sir Patrick Coble to you and me his son James is turning one year old Which means he is depreciated by about $700,000 but you're welcome to the world here James. And Richard Hyde his 40th birthday is today Happy birthday on behalf of John myself and the entire crew here at The No Agenda Show. And he also wanted a de-douching and... Oops! Here we go. I don't know what that was

CHAPTER 21 / 29 Discussion

Birthday Shoutouts, Knighting of Sir Matthew and Sir Adam

The hosts perform a formal knighting ceremony for Matthew Stroh and Adam Atia, welcoming them to the No Agenda Roundtable. They also provide birthday shoutouts for several listeners, including a 40th birthday mention for Richard Hyde. Adam Curry notes that Sir Adam Atia is a veteran who used the GI Bill for photography school and is currently seeking career success.

paul groves· keith gills· patrick coble· matthew stroh· adam atia· knighthood· birthday

1:28:13 to the last stop before Adam and Miss Mickey head back. One last thing, if possible I'd like to get a triple dose of karma one for the wife in her quest to find a job The other for us acquiring and funding our first investment properly Lastly To both of us in hopefully creating a little human resource to help propagate the message So when we do the triple karma? I give it a little ding there We give the Karma And John will hit you up with a ding afterwards You've got Karma We need some karma for this crappy ass connection. All right, thank you all very much highly appreciated For keeping us on the road As John said the next show will be the big 333 show super karma if you hop on the three three three donations Karma does seem to work we receive nothing but great reports about it, but we don't sell it

1:29:06 All we do is just observe it and it does seem to work and the magic numbers seem to play into it And as always the mind control is Dvorak.org slash N A It's your birthday, birthday! Oh no And today we congratulate Paul Groves. His birthday is actually on the 23rd, so that's coming up in just a couple days Keith Gills 40th birthday this Thursday Patrick Coble Sir Patrick Coble to you and me his son James is turning one year old Which means he is depreciated by about $700,000 but you're welcome to the world here James. And Richard Hyde his 40th birthday is today Happy birthday on behalf of John myself and the entire crew here at The No Agenda Show. And he also wanted a de-douching and... Oops! Here we go. I don't know what that was

1:30:06 But hopefully- He needed to dee- He needed a dedouching, but I gave him a douche, a deduce and a karma. Yeah well he needed the dedouching, he mentioned that he's not getting laid and he's 40 Oh shoot hold on a second You've been dedouched That's not good...40? And he's not gettin' laid? That should help Yeah okay John if you can draw your blade here and you have to move a little quickly because of the delay i don't want you like y'know you know, like come in too late and chop our knight's heads off. Matthew Stroh Adam Acia please step forward extend your middle fingers as it is time for you to now join the very elite group of the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable because if your support of the best podcast in the world and amount of $1,000 or more we hereby proudly Knight thee Sir Matthew and Sir Adam knights of the no agenda round table

1:30:59 Come on over guys, grab your rings. Enjoy your booze and hot pants hookers and blow or your rent boys in Chardonnay It's all ready for you and well deserved as knights of the Noah Jenner Roundtable Well that was good Yeah well I had to make up for something So, um did you did you reenact the guy that you gave the night in with it with a pizza cutter? Yeah That's Adam. Yeah Adam. Ah, yeah by the way said nice guy really nice guy two tours Oh, I'm right nights are nice guys. But what he did is he had to tours of I think Iraq and Then he took advantage of the GI Bill To learn commercial photography and he still has a huge student loan that he's paying off And he is

1:31:44 He has some work, but he also needed a little bit of extra karma for it to really pay off. You've got karma And he really loves you John Good Let me just say... let's talk briefly about the Hot Pockets tours we're about to wrap it up here Everybody really, really loves the show. And I've been to fan days and meetups and stuff like that but this is very different. You walk in and it's like you get a big in-the morning from everybody literally like... Other people in the establishment duck and are worried and think we're some kind of cult

CHAPTER 22 / 29 Discussion

Hoboken Meetup Recap, Police Photo Policy, DC Wrap-up

Adam Curry recounts meeting "Nick the Rat" and other prominent producers at the Hoboken meetup. He describes an interaction with local police officers who refused to take photos, citing a policy intended to prevent "police brutality" videos from being taken out of context on YouTube. The hosts announce their final tour stop on K Street in Washington D.C., organized by Baroness Maggie Vincent.

hoboken· nick the rat· mtv· police brutality· washington dc· k street· meetup

1:32:26 We are yeah, we are some kind of cult. We had our meetup in Boston which I Which was? Did we talk about the meet up in Boston no we didn't do we No, I don't think so right because it was after the show right Now maybe we did talk about it now. I think we did talk about our meet-up in Boston. No we didn't we did that I don't know The whole book and when he didn't talk about So, uh... Miss Mickey found a great RV park. Uh- In Jersey City New Jersey My goodness! Total pits But she couldn't help it No Wi-Fi whatsoever so we had to make a choice So we decided to come down here which is essentially the same thing no wifi

1:33:09 But the meetup was great. We probably had I don't know 25 30 people I lost count at a certain point It was it this really cool pizza place in in Hoboken and was we had the whole back room and man There were some superstars there Simon Reed who does a lot For the show on the stream he also maintains domains dot na shownotes calm Simon was there? we had Let's see, uh... We had of course Sir Daniels. You know who else was there John? Nick the Rat showed up! I've met Nick the Rat, superstar Nick! Did you get a picture of him? Um yeah, I think he's in the group picture

1:33:51 We had to you need it. You need to put a nick the rats picture up Yeah, Mickey has a yeah, Mickey has a picture Mickey was out there smoking with him and stuff And we had okay with him he's a smoker no Do you think oh by the way not tobacco? Yeah, yeah, no wonder he comes up with all that great artwork yeah, it's artists I mean as your one step from being a guitar player He literally You know, I said so what do you do man? He goes yeah your graphic art. No no no I'm a sysadmin actually tech support and he says uh... I love doing graphics but i don't like people telling me what to do that's why I love your show. And now I just sit there and come up with oh that's cool and make piece of art any refuses to work for people when it comes to artwork Now there were couple other- I can't remember Oh Dame Tanya was there very nice to meet her

1:34:47 Yeah, she's hot. Is she? Her husband was there too so I had to play it cool. Oops! There were just so many incredibly nice people a lot of names i recognize people who post on noagentonewsnetwork.com People who send emails story leads, and it was kind of cool to see a New York New Jersey come together And we actually had two feds We so we're sitting. We had the entire back room two cops walk in sit down and start eating pizza and At first I was like dude Can you believe it like we got real feds here? Like they're probably listeners of the show well turns out they weren't

1:35:30 And then you know I did but of course they recognized me from the MTV days and you're like, yeah man, and these were like total New Jersey dudes and Like, hey man MTV sucks. I don't play any more music videos and then Mickey comes over says hey You know i'd love to get a shot of you guys you know with adam or with the group And they said yeah we're really sorry We can't do that uh it's against the rules now They they can't have they can't pose for pictures which by the way is really weird Because when i was a kid like you do that you could go to new york city all the time you know wherever you were just you Know like Get your picture taken with a cop right

1:36:13 Yeah, this is pathetic. You know why though? You know what the problem is? Well it's either gonna be terrorism or they can be identified by criminals...or who knows No, the reason why they get in trouble Is because he says what's happening all the time is there'll be writing someone a ticket you know for whatever Then someone's there taking pictures of YouTube videos, and then you know five minutes later. It's like police brutality You know they're hating black people And I can see where they're coming from me that I could see that That's a problem so now it's like no you can't didn't and it's no longer allowed the men in blue at least in Jersey City as far as I know are not allowed to Pose for pictures which I thought was a real shame because they were nice guys We hung out for a little bit and of course we had this storm of the century

1:37:03 Three inches of rain per hour fell right before we started the meetup. It was a huge storm and still people showed up, and it was great And it was pretty much the last Meet-Up on the road We have our final wrap in DC coming up this week uh... miss mickey and baroness maggie vincent the baroness of the entire state of virginia handling that we're doing it on k street which is the center of douchebaggery and they should be a fun wrap-up and of course everyone is uh... hoping that you'll attend uh... john well you know i'm i'm trying find some way of attending but doesn't look promising well ever will be very sad and i was going to have to do some special media where we all fly into some area make it big

1:37:56 Well, this is big and this is a special area People just convince you just don't want to leave the house in Washington DC or in New York City. I don't know Yeah, well anyway, I've defended I go someplace central Dallas dude We've been all over the country You could have joined any anyone of them Yeah, I know. It's just a lot of family matters to deal with. That's okay. And by the way, I have to work on the show! The show itself is very time consuming and as you know because your miserable there is a lot of work to be done

CHAPTER 23 / 29 Discussion

Rick Perry Funding, Congressman Darrell Issa, Australian Scandal

The New York Times publishes an exposé on Congressman Darrell Issa, alleging numerous conflicts of interest between his private businesses and his legislative actions. Issa has demanded a retraction, claiming the story contains 13 errors. Meanwhile, in Australia, a scandal involves Finance Minister Craig Thomson and allegations of the Labor Party bailing him out of bankruptcy to keep him in Parliament.

rick perry· darrell issa· new york times· australia· craig thomson· labor party· bankruptcy

1:38:33 Yeah, I'm only really miserable today because of our connectivity but it has been very very hard. Last night as we got in you know we drove for seven and a half hours and i spent another seven hours just prepping the show just trying to see what's going on and you have to catch up It's not like I've time to research stuff so I feel today is without a doubt a C-minus perhaps D standards and poor can actually come in downgrade our sorry asses John's gonna hum the Sunday Times. Well, today's Sunday Times is interesting because they have a picture of some hotel in Libya that has been shot up and guys are painting it with spray cans. It just looks... So anyway, Libya is at the top of the news They got such a big special on how Perry Rick Perry is getting a lot of money Yeah from Bank Of America

1:39:35 Yeah, I didn't know about that. The whole front page is boring! I started looking inside because I scanned through it to try to find something about Syria... There's nothing about Syria just about Rick Perry and how he was getting all his money And then they, in today's paper they also sent a copy of the New York Times Magazine which is thicker than it has ever been. It is like huge actually way down the whole upper and basically they are cloning Vogue magazine just to bunch up pictures you know perfume models. Shit we can't afford! I thought that today's paper was extremely there was no...I could find no coded messages or anything interesting in the paper so I gave up

1:40:17 There was something in the New York Times earlier this week and as I was up in Armonk, it's kind of cool to see my uncle Don. He actually like you know if you get up early the New York Times will be in a blue plastic bag out there around 630 You know he's up around 645 so it was like, you know in case she want to beat me to it And it was kind of nice reading a newspaper because we don't get the paper newspaper and at The Watchtower would basically read everything online But earlier this week. There was a story about congressman Issa of California did you read this article by any chance John I Yeah, it was interesting. They were going after him This guy is a total douche! It's unbelievable! It's like he... Yeah I lost ya Yeah, it'll come back in a moment Hold on a second

1:41:06 Anyway, I'll uh Maybe you'll catch up to me So this guy basically runs his business out of his congressional office even though it like the buildings are you know? What I don't know. It's like maybe the building next door This guy is a hundred millionaire if not a billionaire and but he has all these all these Conflicts of interest and I thought that and he see a Republican or Democrat what is he oh He's a Republican. That's why the New York Times is all over him, but regardless what an horrible man he's like he's completely you know when there are calls for cuts on something that might affect his business he's out there immediately on the floor just you know he's got public works projects

1:41:52 medical companies, buildings. The guy is the example of what is wrong with our government and I don't understand how he can do all this? How can you have all these investments and not recuse yourself basically from everything Well, he claimed that there's 13 articles or errors in the story and he is going after The New York Times demanding a retraction front page retraction. This hasn't been fully resolved so there is some evidence that it may be a hidden piece but most of it probably is true Yeah, I would say most of it appears to be true. The same is kind of going on down under with our Aussie friends as there's a scandal brewing down there which i'm trying to research only got into today one of our producers sent a very detailed message uh... the uh... things the finance minister Thompson apparently the labor party bailed him out of bankruptcy for ninety thousand dollars this by the way is the same guy

1:42:54 who allegedly declared some strippers on his government credit card. Which by the way, I think we should give all of our representatives a stripper budget. I'm not against that. It'd be good for... you know if we want to do a stimulus let's support the strippers but of course this was to avoid bankruptcy because if you are bankrupt you cannot be a member of parliament And so that's a scandal brewing down there, which we're looking into. But it just seems like... Can we ever get rid of- can we just reboot the whole system John? Is there way to do it? Do we have to actually resort to our guns? What do we have to do?! Nothing! It's too late you can't even do this not even there's no way out Bart has released a statement regarding their turning off of the cell phones I thought you might get a kick out of

CHAPTER 24 / 29 Discussion

BART Free Speech Zones, Cell Phone Shutdown

The Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) system issues a statement defending its policy of limiting free speech to designated zones and its recent decision to shut down cell phone service to prevent protests. The hosts argue that "free speech zones" are a violation of the First Amendment and that speech itself cannot inherently interfere with the safe operation of trains.

bart· san francisco· first amendment· free speech zones· cell phone service· public transportation

1:43:55 Here we go. Well, I live yeah play it no It's not it's not a play. It's a read so they talk about you know for more than 25 years Bart has had a policy regarding the exercise of First Amendment free speech rights and areas in its stations where can be done safely and without interference with Barts primary mission of providing safe efficient and reliable public transportation services now let me ask you how can free speech ever ever, EVER hamper service of BART. Free speech is speech! Speech doesn't go out and kill people. Speech doesn't stop trains

1:44:37 So they say, you know free speech is limited to the free speech zones as we heard that knucklehead on the previous show which is the constitutional free speech zone. I can't believe that no one is calling Bart on this and saying that you know free speech has to be limited to any area because speech it's just speech! It's just words and its vibrations in the air or maybe something written? I mean... Yeah go ahead Well, you know I think what we're touching on here this part of the show is some attacking a little bit media assassination. I have a clip that's got nothing to do with Bart but it has something to do with journalists in general which i think was one of the funniest stories I've heard for awhile

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FBI Profiler, Jack Unterweger, Media Narcissism

FBI profiler Greg McCrary discusses the case of Jack Unterweger, a serial killer who worked as a journalist covering his own crimes. Unterweger reportedly interviewed detectives and reported on the status of investigations while actively murdering women in Europe and Los Angeles. The hosts highlight the extreme narcissism of the killer, who even secured a ride-along with the LAPD to scout victims.

fbi· greg mccrary· jack unterweger· serial killer· austria· lapd· journalism

1:45:22 This FBI profiler came on C-SPAN and discussed a new book of his which is, I don't know if i have the name of it handy. The guy's name is Greg McCrary is the FBI guy and he has got a book out on profiling He was a profiler beginning in 1969 which seems like a long time ago. I didn't know they were doing this long. Quantico And so he has this hilarious story about one of the serial killers that I just was a total eye roller and worth listening to. And the white powder and all of that, but that's separate from the 9-11 investigation itself, the 9-11 attacks. What has been in your career what was the most difficult

1:46:03 profile to put together and why? I don't know. They're all, each one is its own unique challenge. I think they're all unique. One of the more interesting cases that I had was a serial murder case where the individual was murdering in Europe and the United States. And he was sort of back and forth between the two, I always say that true crime is more interesting or more unbelievable than fictional crime because if you write this stuff up as fiction people aren't going to believe it but this guy for example was a member of the media who was covering his own murders for the media He was reporting on it writing for the newspaper going on TV doing interviews

1:46:44 uh... uncovering his own murder than meanwhile going out killing these women and then coming back in reporting on it interviewing the detectives interviewing the people in charge about the nature of investigation in a status of the investigation and all those things so it's intriguing case did your profile include that aspect well I got involved later in the case and I worked with the Austrian authorities actually ended up testifying in Austria against this guy and his trial over there. But it shows that they don't think like we think, for example he went into Los Angeles to kill people so this is why criminals don't think like you or me necessarily if you went into Los Angeles to kill a lot of people

1:47:22 probably where would you not go? What would you avoid at all costs if you went to Los Angeles. Probably the police department, you wouldn't want them to know that you were in town and kill people This guy, the narcissism is there First thing he does is goes to the LAPD and introduces himself as a foreign journalist In town to do research on prostitutions in Los Angeles They give him a ride along courtesy of a ride along show him where street prostitutes work He comes back and kills three of them while he's in town these guys don't think like you and i think in there's a lot of narcissism involved in that that's one of uh... my number of uh... sort of interesting cases george is an independent and not sex town missouri payout was at her although he was talking about facts that for home and it's story or what has great while this speaking of fbi agents uh...

CHAPTER 26 / 29 Discussion

C-SPAN Cyber Security, EMP Threats, Solar Flares

FBI official Sean Henry appears on C-SPAN to discuss the $11 billion budget requested for cyber security and the threat of a "cascading effect" if the electrical grid is hacked. The hosts analyze the call-in segment, where one viewer challenges the FBI on U.S. hacking activities and another warns of a "red alert" regarding electromagnetic pulses (EMP) from solar flares. They encourage listeners to call into C-SPAN to propagate the No Agenda formula.

c-span· fbi· sean henry· cyber crime· emp· solar flares· infrastructure

1:48:12 Do you know, I... The C-SPAN call in shows fascinate me because they have once again yeah they've got kind of the dorky looking chick that didn't make the cut at Fox News. No not even at Fox News these women don't even make the cut at Russia Today There's been a couple good looking ones this one here is very pretty yeah You just don't watch it Yeah well I've been on the road and we're living out of a box So she has an FBI agent on named Sean Henry And Sean Henry is in charge of parts of the cyber unit. Now, of course he's on to propagate the formula about how we need a lot more money for us for cyber. In fact it's 11 billion dollars that they have this right? This was I was watching this last week every other show on C-SPAN was about cyber crimes or the potential and all the rest of it they're trying to get money yeah

1:49:08 Squirrel! Be very, very afraid of the cyber-terrorists. So here she is following the script and his answer kind of was interesting to me because he contradicts himself and then I want to play two of the callers that called in and i have an idea about this. Threat to our nation's infrastructure hacking into the information technology systems that run... Information Technology Systems! hacking, hacking. The electrical grid and otherwise? So our electrical power grid, our infrastructure that communicate using computers and the ability for an adversary to try and intercept those communications or degrade those communications or to infiltrate the networks that run those infrastructures would have a cascading effect on this country if we were to get electricity

1:49:58 in a major city for a protracted period of time. We all saw what happened, Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans after just a few days there was civil unrest within the city people were without food they weren't able to pump gas it was hard to find water those are the critical infrastructures that supply us with our necessary day-to-day goods and services and without that I'd be certainly significant impact on our country So what he actually says is he says that you know when they get into the grid then there's a domino effect And it'll be pandemonium. We're all gonna die we will have riots in the streets no food No, I know nothing but it's what he's contradicting himself because with Katrina yeah It was very bad in Louisiana But it didn't spread Not like the grid went down from New York to California

1:50:49 Yeah, this is reminds me of the y2k fears in your 2000 where all these things were gonna happen and then turns out nothing happened So then they start to take a couple of calls and here's a suggestion for all you producers out there Please pay attention to the C-SPAN call-in shows because their I mean it's a low budget The hosts are working off a script we can do so much cool stuff with this And this is the place where you need to start calling in, not just with an in-the morning. Of course you need to do it in the morning to identify but you've gotta say No Agenda Show, The Best Podcast In The World You could also say ShutUpslaves.com But propagate the formula on these shows because other people are doing it and

1:51:35 By the way, we would pick up a lot of listeners because the people that listen to these shows and watch these shows and call in they are prime no agenda material. We've got to get the word out through C-SPAN I have to say is the way to do it here's example number one If you had Greta, you could conduct this interview with anyone from any nation out there that has any impact and they could say the same thing. That the United States is hacking the rest of the world also so let's have a little bit of balance here and between NSA and FBI and CIA in the Defense Department we're hacking countries all over the place

1:52:14 Alright, let's talk about that. Sean Henry? So the caller is talking about other agencies my role in the FBI is threat mitigation the attacks we face here I love that. Looking at who those adversaries are and how do we thwart those attacks? Can we share intelligence that we collect with the Department of Homeland Security and others to help make this country safer? So, those are other agencies outside of the FBI that do that sort of thing? Well, I don't have any information about U.S. intelligence capabilities as this gentleman's described. No information about that! That was beautiful, right? I mean this is a total no agenda type person and these people are watching these shows so we need to get to them and you need to tell... it's live by the way. You need to tell these hosts and put these agents from three-letter agencies on notice that were out there that were watching him here's the one that was my favorite though. Independent in Rice Lake Wisconsin

1:53:09 Morning Richard. First of all I want to thank you for C-SPAN, what i'm going to talk about is basically drop everything this is a red alert we are talking about the electromagnetic pulse threat there's an author his name is Drew Miller His book is called R-O-H-E-N Nation. By the way, this is happening and the spook guy he's like writing down stuff like he's writing down the name of the author and the host is like smoke is coming out over ears where this guy's like This Is A Red Alert

1:53:50 reinventing America after the 2020 collapse, talking about the EMP and viruses. Now I'm going to explain to the American people what i am trying to explain! I am talking about the solar flares of the sun that in 90 minutes could take out our grid system in our country! Alright that was Richard in Internet Rice Lake Wisconsin here is a tweet... was Richard. Thanks for your call. Well, of course the guy is nuttier than I am but if they if that guy can get through him and he will be great to listen to our show yeah we need these people so please no I think we need what we're dropping you can hear me? Yeah Can you hear me now? Yeah We're dropping the ball on a lot of this and I think people out there have to help us and get out because we can't keep calling these shows

1:54:41 And you know we do what we can and we have to do the show too so but yeah people should I mean Howard Stern used to he got an army of people calling in and doing goofy stuff, but we can do it seriously We don't have to be goofy no. I mean all these topics are great and like the first caller I played those a whole bunch of calls The whole thing you need to see at Lincoln's show notes at three three two dot na shownotes calm I mean the whole thing is is You know, it's just filled with these great calls. Some of them are stupid of course but it's really easy to get past the screeners and my point is that other no agenda minded people are watching these shows so its perfect to go and propagate the formula pick up new listeners and get a little bit of PR at the same time So uh... It was just a PR mention that I think we should really take advantage off

CHAPTER 27 / 29 Discussion

SEC Document Destruction, Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone

Matt Taibbi reports in Rolling Stone that the SEC has been destroying records of preliminary investigations (Matters Under Inquiry) dating back to 1993. This practice reportedly eliminated evidence in 18,000 cases, including those involving Bernie Madoff and major investment banks, preventing future investigators from cross-referencing tips. The hosts discuss the "revolving door" between the SEC and the banks they are tasked with regulating.

sec· matt taibbi· rolling stone· bernie madoff· goldman sachs· david kotz· whistleblowers

1:55:32 Now there's one other thing that- Okay, so I have a couple. Let me just do one thing and then we can wind it up because I know your stuff is better. I just have one thing that is top of the news. Matt Taibbi Rolling Stone Magazine if you haven't read it yet It's the new edition He essentially got some documents about a whistleblower at the SEC nothing You haven't heard before on The No Agenda Show program podcast dot com or gov But he essentially has uncovered the following. He has several levels of investigations, basically any preliminary inquiry is what they call a MOE, a matter under inquiry and a MOE is just any investigation that's before the level of formal inquiry

1:56:20 and what they've been doing dating back to nineteen ninety three is they've been destroying the records of any movie uh... that has not proceeded to a full investigation so all these preliminary investigations of bernie made off a i g goldman sachs city group lehman brothers As many as 18,000 cases. The evidence for all of them has been destroyed So if somebody had just a brilliant realization about what Madoff was doing in 2004 and there had been an investigation in 1999 with somebody else who'd moved on who had the same idea There would be no record from 1999 And for the guy in 2008 there would be no record of either

1:57:00 Exactly, there was no way to cross-reference them. That's exactly what happened. Somebody would call in with a tip or they'd get a tip from FINRA or from the New York Stock Exchange about suspicious trades You get a team of SEC guys who would look into it for a few weeks maybe a couple of months They do some interviews and ask for permission to proceed It might get rejected by a future employee of Bernie Madoff Or Citigroup And then they would shred their documents afterwards This of course is the Olbermann show unfortunately. What's his name Kendra? Kendra Olbermann So unfortunately it's on his show which kind of makes me suspicious That there's some setup going on here The fact that Rolling Stone gets all this stuff anyway is always, you know we find curious to say the least

1:57:44 And Taibi has a lot, and the article is very good. It's much better than this interview and he goes into the revolving door of the SEC how lawyers who are supposed to be investigating companies drop one of these investigations and then literally four weeks later they're working at one of the banks He has multiple examples of that and then of course The fact that the SEC actually allows banks to appoint outside law firms to investigate whatever one of these cases might be, which is weird to say the least. The SEC started going toward a model where they would allow companies to investigate themselves during this movie stage what they would do is they'd get a complaint and then go back to the company and say could you hire a lawyer look into yourself and file a report back to us so we can decide whether or not to investigate you

1:58:39 Now apparently this system worked okay for a couple of years, but when they put Cox in my sources tell me that this process just became a joke and these investigations just routinely went nowhere. So had you read this article John in the Rolling Stone? Not yet no Oh it's really an eye opener its really good however I believe its not even a red herring Well, maybe it is a red herring because Tybee basically spills the beans here at the end saying that the very same attorney inspector general Inspector General Cox Where this all the stuff flourished and was not investigating. Tybee's now saying oh, no It's all gonna turn dead they'll do something really good with it. The SEC inspector general David Kotz actually is a pretty invested Aggressive Inspector General and I actually do think that something might come out of it I mean the record of inspectors general in the past decade or so hasn't been great But apparently this one is a pretty good one So there people do have hope for them dream on tybee dream-on

1:59:38 There's gonna be... no, noth-no one is going to jail. But it's a great article to read link in the show notes 332 dot NA show notes dot com Of course we've been all over the SEC and how they've They're basically completely in collusion with the banks And someone should at least throw a shoe at them if nothing else I have a couple of deconstructions of some stuff Chertoff said at the Aspen, some Aspen conference on security. And also... Just a reminder that Michael Chertoff former secretary of the Department of Homeland Security who is now selling body scanners and I don't know handcuffs and whips and chains back to his former employer

CHAPTER 28 / 29 Discussion

Killer Amoeba, Fukushima Radiation, Michael Chertoff

The hosts preview a deconstruction of Michael Chertoff's recent comments at the Aspen Security Forum. They also discuss a "killer amoeba" story trending in the media, which they suspect is a promotional tie-in for an upcoming movie. Finally, they report on a study finding radioactive elements in the thyroid glands of children near the Fukushima nuclear plant, criticizing the Japanese government's response.

michael chertoff· fukushima· radiation· thyroid· killer amoeba· japan· aspen security forum

2:00:26 So I got a couple, but I want to do that on Thursday. Also have some interesting spook events that went on with the deputy directors of former deputy director of the CIA and the current deputy director of DIA. And I've concluded that the deputy directors are the COOs, the guys who actually run the agencies as opposed to the stooge they put at the top And which will be again on Thursday show, but just to finish off I do have a clip. There's a story going around about the killer amoeba and I've heard about this so Fox tries to sensationalize it over the weekend but they end up with one of their substitute guys who passes it off

2:01:15 with information I haven't heard, everyone's trying to sensationalize the story. This guy says this has been going on for decades this amoeba and it just so happens to be getting attention now and you can play the Kilo Amoeba clip see how there's how this story just dies right on Fox. We've already had three deaths this year, and it seems like the treatment options are much less more potent for that. Yeah well listen, this is a very strange single cell organism. It's been about 137 cases for several decades now so it's not that rare. The problem is that this particular year you have a very hot summer down south. You have temperatures of 105 degrees. You have very little rain in places like Texas or Florida and things like that. Alright what's the movie? Come on spill the beans!

2:02:00 The killer amoeba movie, it's gotta be something like that. Well there's got to be something going on because apparently this guy says it averages 137 cases a year for the last 20 years so why is it news now? So I thought that was an interesting little... It's gotta be a movie by the way. Yeah Brad Pitt doing a zombie movie duh hence all of the zombie stories. You predicted that I wish you had the red I don't know if it is. I think it predates the Red Book, this your zombie prediction thing is way old Yeah and you said vampires You said vampires and I said no It's gonna be zombies Zombies is what... I didn't put...it's not in the red book so I don't care There's also a Japan children radiation clip that was kind of distressing because apparently who knew this was going to happen The Japanese were so much into now about their radiation problem they didn't give their kids

2:02:56 iodine supplements which they need to prevent the radioactive iodine from going to the thyroid and so we get this report. A new study by the Japanese government has found nearly half of children surveyed in three towns near the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant have traces of radioactive elements in their thyroid glands The Japanese government maintains that none of the children showed radiation levels that would be problematic, but the study's findings have fueled concern over the long-term fallout from the nuclear disaster. Radioactive iodine tends to gather in the thyroid glands of minors in particular increasing the risk of developing cancer later in life.

CHAPTER 29 / 29 Discussion

Extra TV Changes, Agenda 21, Show Outro

The show concludes with a critique of the declining production quality of "Extra TV" and a preview of topics for the next episode, including Tom Vilsack's involvement with the Council on Foundations and Agenda 21. Adam Curry mentions an Air Force raid on a Nevada gun store and the use of Blackwater-affiliated security by Verizon. The episode ends with a "John Galt" sign-off and a reminder of the upcoming show 333.

extra tv· tom vilsack· agenda 21· air force· blackwater· verizon· john galt

2:03:38 Good work, Japanese. Rock on, Joppers! So and then finally I don't really have any...I mean there's other stuff but to think we might as well just see if there's anything maybe we could discover I've been, somebody changed jobs at the extra show and so we still hear a couple of extra extras but we don't have that big wind up anymore. So i'm going to probably stop using clips from Extra because they're used to having this great wind-up and then they go extra extra extra and they play all these little clips this is what it sounds like now Now on Extra. New video, Kim Kardashian in white hours before her $10 million wedding. Congratulations guys! Extra has every angle covered the two rehearsal dinners. Kim today revealing her last minute makeover. Spray tanning midnight call to do my eyebrows. Breaking details on the wedding from here in Montecito. Could it be the most expensive celeb wedding in history? How much they spent on these crystalline invites alone

2:04:37 The new twist in the housewife's suicide. Did Russell Armstrong threaten Taylor Slaughn planning the funeral? Plus, lost photos of an unrecognizable Tampa ball wife shocking new nuclear blowout. Extra's GPS tracking Brad and Angie's new home, the 16th century castle. Barbra Streisand shoots down the retirement rumors. The music legends all new confessions. I never sing in the shower either. Lots of sneak peek at Rosie's new talk show for Oprah. Hi it's me, Kacon. Good to see ya!

2:05:14 You know what, the problem is it's the summer months so the guy that normally cuts the promo he's not doing it and as someone who just has too much work they had a deadline. They couldn't get all of the extra things in there or he couldn't find the assets He couldn't find the clips It sucks! And they don't have that big wind up at the beginning Yeah Alright, let me just finish up with a couple things that I'm working on for Thursday's show for the big 333 show again So the only thing I got out of that was that Rose Joe Dowd's gonna talk show. Yeah great so Let me just wind it up John from my end with a couple of things that I'm working on for the big three three three Show Tom Vilsack came out remember that big announcement that he was going to make I guess he spilled the beans early The FDA led by former

2:06:00 Shill, Tom Vilsack announced the US Department of Agriculture has signed a Memorandum of Understanding an MOU with the Council on Foundations to provide new sources of capital, new job opportunities workforce investment strategies and identification of additional resources that can be used to spur economic growth in rural America. This is the part 1b of Agenda 21 and who- Of course you want to know who are the Council on Foundations? Well this is The Rockefellers And it's I mean when you look at this Council on Foundation website... Ugh

2:06:45 So that's one thing I'm working on. I want to talk about that on Thursday some more because this Agenda 21 thing is getting on my nerves Yes, so that's...so I'm working on that. I just need some actual bandwidth to be able to handle it Another thing is the Air Force Official Special Investigations Unit raided a Nevada Central Valley gun store on Friday yelling Search warrant search warrant, but I'm sorry you cannot have the military Doing this in the United States it is against the Constitution so that's something that I'm looking into and investigating. You can't have the actual army doing that and What yeah? I know the Air Force a special operations unit of the air force raided a gun store

2:07:42 And this is part of the new meme. This is like if you know it's like whatever we need the army We can't have you can't have a military doing police work in the United States It's illegal well, it happened in Nevada Harry Reid state then there's uh This by the way is also part of the ISIS story an ex-Goldman Sachs VP changed his name After he was convicted and now he's lobbying. He's right back in the saddle again It's just so much stuff going on and Blackwater is Verizon security force is XI actually should say the Consultants formerly known as The Blackwaters They are now protecting Verizon's assets during this standoff slash strike So that could get kind of interesting

2:08:35 And then I have tons... Well, I figure we have the mercenaries working in the borders of the USA. That makes sense Yeah and then I want all producers out there who are Um, actually posting on noagentivenewsnetwork.com and emailing me and if you've emailed for an account uh... You'll be set up sometime next week I just haven't had the literally the bandwidth to do it while on the road Uh, The Flash Mob meme is now out of control Everything is a flash mob Whenever there's a group of people It's a flash mob And this is now This is just more stuff that's going to be used To turn off

2:09:13 Part portions of the internet and luckily it'll start with Facebook and Twitter, and we can keep our own servers But the licensing is not far behind And that concludes the Suckiest show in our history. No I think we did had a show once that was worse really terms of connectivity in terms of connectivity yeah well but Basically, it's just you and me talking to somebody else. And then once in a while like someone responds like didn't flow Yeah No We would have normally pushed the show off through the afternoon or evening but do you have no choice? Now I have no choice and the worst part is I actually miss talking to you But I might have to call you later just to chat Ha ha

2:10:11 So of course, this is all a setup for Groovy Karma for show 333. That's what will be coming your way on Thursday I'll be back at the Watchtower the Hilltop Crackpot Command Center Hopefully if the cable bill got paid while I was away with great connectivity Coming to you from the oops there's no Wi-Fi here near the NSA in the woods Our last show from The Duchess in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I have good connectivity but all the good it does me. I'm John C. Dvorak We will talk to you again on Thursday for show 333 right here on NO Agenda

2:10:54 I'm John Galt, and thank you for joining me. With no agenda, John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry endeavor to market the product of their blood, sweat and tears to the United States of the Universe! As you all know this kind of Herculean effort to oppose oppressive bureaucratic functionaries cannot go unnoticed That is why I, John Galt confer the seal of Atlas to these fine men for their excellence in audio programming These two men and their producers are forged from reared in steel!