Episode 285 · Thursday, 10 March 2011

Terror Aperture

A media assassination unfolds as NPR leadership topples, the White House formalizes indefinite detention, and celebrity activism masks a global scramble for African oil pipelines.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 285

About this episode

NPR CEO Vivian Schiller resigns following a hidden camera sting by James O'Keefe, sparking an investigation into her past as a Soviet-era tour guide and potential deep-cover intelligence asset. The fallout reveals a complex web of corporate influence involving AECOM and the Regional Planning Association, where high-speed rail lobbying interests appear to dictate public media narratives. These connections suggest a coordinated effort by infrastructure firms to utilize non-profit organizations as mouthpieces for multi-billion dollar transportation contracts.

President Barack Obama formalizes indefinite detention through a new executive order on Guantanamo Bay, effectively reversing campaign promises while establishing a permanent periodic review process for detainees. In Libya, inconsistencies in BBC and CNN war zone reporting emerge as Russia Today highlights staged protest footage and digitally altered video segments. Former Governor Bill Richardson and Defense Secretary Robert Gates signal a shift toward covertly arming rebels, a move linked to strategic oil pipeline interests in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Kenya. Meanwhile, Senator John McCain faces scrutiny for incorrectly claiming iPhones are manufactured in the United States despite their well-documented Chinese supply chain.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak navigate a three-second Skype delay to dissect the pharmaceutical industry's pivot toward high-profit vaccines as the Lipitor patent cliff approaches. The hosts mock the Russian police rebranding to the acronym OMOH and share a bizarre anecdote involving a turbulent flight to Aspen. From the mystery of human feet washing up in Vancouver to the theory that Charlie Sheen is fueled by snail-toxin medication, the broadcast captures the escalating tension of Gitmo Nation.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Podcast Introduction and Technical Audio Delay Issues

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 285 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. The hosts troubleshoot a three-second audio delay occurring over their Skype connection. They establish the "Gitmo Nation" theme and the "Media Assassination" branding for the broadcast dated March 10, 2011.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· skype· audio delay

00:00 nothing like lesbian milf cops. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Thursday, March 10, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 285. This is no agenda. Wagging the dugs from high atop the hilltop watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley in the Buzzkill bunker, I'm white dog John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you Johnny boy. I was a little off. You were off? Timing is a bit much. What happened? What happened? Just a little off, huh? After I said John C. Dvorak, I waited for the donut to post. No, no, no, no, no. It was right on time. That was tight. It took you a whole... Maybe we have a delay in the Skype again.

00:50 Because I when I said I'm not hurry there was like three seconds before you said anything and I know you always jumped Oh, cuz I stepped on you. No you were three seconds late now. I'm saying from my end I stepped on you. Oh really shoot cuz I I always step on curry I step when you say I'm Adam curry as soon as you hit the hard see I'm talking well then maybe we should reestablish connection cuz it's gonna suck otherwise Yeah, that would be good thinking otherwise it's gonna be this long right? Oh Hold on a second. I know what it is. It's not actually John's fault. It'd be my fault Okay, but we won't tell him okay. I'll just say who is it yeah? Hey much better

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

NPR CEO Vivian Schiller Resignation and Russian Espionage Claims

The resignation of NPR CEO Vivian Schiller is analyzed following a hidden camera sting operation by James O'Keefe involving executive Ron Schiller. Claims are made that Vivian Schiller's past employment as a tour guide in Russia during the 1980s suggests she was a deep-cover intelligence asset. The discussion explores NPR's financial structure, including the National Public Media Foundation and offshore accounts in Berlin.

vivian schiller· npr· ron schiller· james o'keefe· russian spy

01:44 So John, you know I was working a lot during the week and I got on this really hot trail of... because I was watching C-SPAN of course so you don't have to. Well I'm glad you're here so you don't have to. C-SPAN. We've been doing a lot of that. I don't know what the deal is with how you got onto anything, because I was watching C-SPAN all week too. I ended up having to get my clips from Fox. Oh no, oh no man. Let me just say that I got stuck, the hearings I got into where we're listening to Arnie Duncan go on forever. The guy's an idiot.

02:27 I have so many clips because the first thing I found was the National Press Club luncheon and this is something that we've paid attention to particularly when Vivian Schiller, the CEO... Oh, by the way, rest in peace. You know, I think this is the biggest blow to No Agenda and I want everyone out there to realize it. This is, I think, the biggest blow to this show is the firing of Vivian Schiller over the past couple days uh... because of the uh... well i have some close welcome i'm not into let me just say i'm not entirely sure it's because of this video of uh... of is the guy who did the the pimp thing with the uh...

03:12 uhhhh... with Acorn, it's the same guy and you know so he goes in and he gets this guy this Rob Schiller no relationship is you'll see everywhere which of course I investigated that for at least half an hour are we sure there's no relationship I want to make sure it's just too much coincidence uh... that you know he said uh... the tea party people are crazy the races the gun-toting idiots or whatever i'm not so sure that that's it i think there's a number of other reasons i'm also not so sure that she was actually fired although it's being spun that way And I'll let me mention a couple of things. First of all, I don't know what you did. You hear all the tapes that this guy did. He's got another one coming out, by the way, because the thing that I think was was important and it was interesting because the left wing media, excuse me, like CNN spun it one way.

04:01 But the good stuff was only on Fox in this case, which was the guy going off, you know, they're saying NPR stands for National Palestinian Radio and and the saleswoman going that's a great idea and then and then saying the Jews own all the newspapers and they don't own any of us. They don't own NPR so don't worry about it. and that I think was the heavy duty stuff that was worth getting worked up about, whereas if you listen to CNN, they just kind of pass it off, well these guys made a tape and they found that the guys criticized the Tea Party for being bigots and racists, which is like the minor

04:43 complaint. Did you hear anywhere on these tapes where they actually said we'd like to give you a five million dollar check because I've heard I've seen all the reporting on it but I haven't actually seen the tape because of course it doesn't exist I'm sure that's a lie and they're making it up saying oh but you know we didn't take the money. So of course what I had set up makes no sense now because the crazy woman is gone and I agree it's a big blow to the show depending of course on who steps in to take her spot And I was looking at the funding and all of that. So I kind of followed this trail which is very interesting. NPR doesn't actually sell the commercials themselves. They sell it through this National Public Media Foundation which this Ron Schiller guy, he's the head sales guy. And when you look at their website it's like, hey we're the exclusive guys, we sell it all. We sell all the spots over here. Commercials, I mean underwriting, sponsorship, we got it for you.

05:39 So then I start looking at their financials as I do. And I'm looking at the NPR financials and indeed they get between six and ten million dollars a year uh... just from uh... the uh... npr media foundation so it's kind of like a chinese wall or idea in accounting trick they also have uh... a german company but an offshore company in germany npr berlin for some reason and money comes in from there as well so much what the reason is somebody likes berlin they probably have a hard man yeah is rather than a really a lot of it is a lot of it is a lot of it is a lot of it over there so um...

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

AECOM and Regional Planning Association High-Speed Rail Lobbying

An investigation into the Regional Planning Association (RPA) reveals close ties to AECOM, a global infrastructure firm with significant high-speed rail contracts. RPA Chairman Elliot G. Sander is identified as a top executive at AECOM, suggesting the non-profit acts as a mouthpiece for corporate transportation interests. The lack of transparent financial reporting regarding NPR corporate sponsorships from these entities is highlighted.

aecom· regional planning association· high-speed rail· elliot sander· lobbying

06:20 And then I'm like, well you know what, because actually so then I heard a report. I'm not going to play all these clips. I have them all set up and they will be in the podcast feed which is a new thing at Noah Jenna show notes. Noah Jenna show.com in the show notes. So you can listen to that yourself. But I hear this guy coming on shilling about high-speed rail. And I'm like, wow who is this? So it's a guy from the RPA, the Regional Planning Association. I'm like, who are these jabronis? So the regional planning association, they take on the big issues and hit against the big lobbyists which apparently means sucking HSR off because they're trying to get high speed rail in. And I'm like, okay, so who's on the board of

07:01 of this not-for-profit outfit. This is where it always gets good. So it doesn't take much to do this. But you go to, I think it's rpa.org and you say, okay, well who's on the board? Well let's see, the chairman is Elliot G. Sander, group chief executive of AECOM USA. of the global transportation unit. Now that's okay, so what does ACOM do? John, any idea? Probably has something to do with trains. They do nothing but they've got billions of dollars of contracts.

07:40 For high-speed rail, so so it's like a mouthpiece RPA is a mouthpiece for a comm and it's right there I mean, there's a whole bunch of people from a comm on the board running the regional players to look okay So by the way, by the way, I want to stop right now and I'm gonna say let me just I won't finish up There's a lot of things that I expected you to go from point A to point B But this one is really a wild ride. Yeah Hey! How do you go from the NPR to High Speed Rail? Continue. So then I'm like, well, and I hear this guy from the RPA talking, and then I hear another NPR report with a guy from ACOM talking. I'm like, wow. So I want to know, has ACOM or RPA bought any spots, any corporate sponsorship?

08:27 And by the way, you can't find this on the NPR website. There is a page that is not linked from their About Us page and it gives their financial reports so you can, you know, it's kind of boring stuff but it goes through all the way through 2010 so that makes me know they're doing their 990s and everything. And then there's a list of corporate sponsors and they don't have a list further than 2010. What happened to 2009-2010? It's not there, they haven't published that. So now I'm getting like, alright now I'm getting irked because of course the trail stops dead there. I can't find out if AECOM or RPA have purchased any corporate underwriting, sponsorship or advertising, whatever you want to call it in Vivian Schiller's own words. And so I think there's a huge problem. There's got to be a reason for them not publishing that because they've got to be hiding something. There's no other reason.

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Vivian Schiller Russian Background and Media Infiltration Theory

A theory is presented regarding Vivian Schiller's career trajectory from a tour guide in the Soviet Union to a top producer at Turner Broadcasting. The narrative suggests that her "abroad" status during the Cold War served as a cover for indoctrination into Russian influence operations. Comparisons are drawn to other high-level media editors who spent significant time in Russia before ascending to leadership roles in American news organizations.

vivian schiller· cold war· espionage· turner broadcasting· kgb

09:27 But then I tie it all together and I think I have the true reason for Vivian Schiller leaving. And this ties into stuff we've talked about in the past. So she's, this is like hour long, she gets introduced, she talks about the funding, she goes into this whole thing saying, well the 10% we get from the government, it's seed money. It's seed money. It's an investment. You could say, yeah 10% off the top is like you know if that went away then you know it's just cutting back like everybody has to do we've cut back thirty percent most people but for her no without that ten percent we can't actually invest in the future it's it's our seed money and like well that's half full half empty but then this little diddy crops up which blows me away and I start to really get into the research. Well I grew up in the 60s and early 70s

10:17 This of course is during the question and answer session where it's not rehearsed although the guy is reading the questions off cards. People aren't allowed to ask anymore because last time they did that, that horrible question came up about funding and we've been berating her for it ever since. At that time I was mostly listening to AM pop music on the radio, quite honestly. And then I lived out of the country for many years, and so I came late to NPR because for most of the 80s I was living abroad. And in fact I can tell you the first time that I really, I'd heard, listened to NPR but I really honed in on it is when I first started dating my husband who was here somewhere I think, there he is. So this is what's interesting. So a couple times during this hour she talks about living out of the country. I was abroad, I was living out of the country. Like that's weird, particularly if you're a progressive left-wing shill

11:16 You know, I was living in Europe, I was in France, I was working with children in Africa, you know, whatever it is, right? She wouldn't just say, I was out of the country. Would you agree? Yeah, I think so. So where was she? Do you know? No, but I'm absolutely convinced that you're going to tell me. She was a tour guide in Russia. Oh really? Now this is exactly like the editor of the New York Times. All these guys have been in Russia for years and years and years and you do Google searches it all says she was out of the country, she was abroad. You finally find like yeah I was in Russia. She apparently and she in her own words, written words, she says yeah my job was to lie to a fat American tourist that you know the plane had some kind of problem whereas it just wasn't scheduled or whatever. Her whole job was

12:10 lying to tourists, she says, in Russia. And she was there when it was Russia. Russia, not former Soviet Union, no, Russia. The reason she had to leave is she was about to be exposed as a Russian spy. Now you think she was a Russian spy or an American spy in Russia? No, of course not. She got her training, just like the guy from the New York Times. This is how it works. Of course not. What? You didn't answer the question. What do you mean? She's working for who? For the Russians. She's a Russian spy. She's a Russian spy working for the Russians? Yes, in America. This is what espionage is. If you can indoctrinate... it wasn't real, it wasn't a real job, it was a cover job. She was getting trained to indoctrinate and infiltrate our national treasure.

13:06 and it was getting too hot. Left-wing leanings of the nationalists. Exactly and and the same for the New York Times with the editor-in-chief. Spend years in Russia. What were they doing in Russia? Come on John I've been to Russia. I was in Russia in 1988. What a crap hole. And then she comes back and immediately she's like a top producer of TBS for Turner Broadcasting. Please Please. She went from being a tourist guide for Americans in Russia to being a top producer at Turner. Hello? That's how it works. And I think she was about to be exposed because the focus was going to be way too much on her personally and she had to get out. Wow. We can end the show with that. You like it? I love it. I'm telling you man, Vivian Schiller, Russian spy. And that's what it's about.

14:02 That's what it's about. Well how many Russian spies do you think there are in this country? Well I know a little bit about espionage as you know from my background. You're a student of it, go on. Yes of course I'm a student of it but the number one job of all espionage is to infiltrate and indoctrinate the media because over time, decades of time, it's much more valuable to bestow a thinking pattern upon people And let's face it, that's what NPR does. There's no doubt about it. I mean you just can't argue and the proof is in the pudding with this other Schiller guy. And they wouldn't deny it. Yeah, not related. No relation. So I think that she had to get out because it was getting way too hot under her feet. NPR, National Public Russian.

14:54 And I think I can back a lot of this up and you do the Google searches on Vivia Schiller and it's like I was abroad, I was out of the country, I was abroad. In the 80s in Russia? Hello? That was the height of the Cold War! what were you doing? Oh, there was a lot of tourism to Russia in the 80s. Come on! I'm not! I mean, yeah, I mean that's stupid. I mean that's it's a total cover and whenever you're a spy in a different country you have some kind of you either with a PR firm or yeah doing some bogus job. Yeah, bogus job. It's a real bogus job and she laughs it off and like yeah but but to say I was out of the country so as not to focus her attention on her being from Russia

15:38 Just like the editor-in-chief of The New York Times who was in Russia during the same period for many many years And then she comes back meets her husband Who knows what he is? Yeah, we could start looking into him. He's probably another one I mean and or the cover guy or the cover or all of this is just to promote it was a pre setup promotion for salt to the sequel and they're like ah this thing is gonna be a dog Vivian forget about it and We don't need the promotion. We don't need you over here. We don't need the promotion. Let's see where she crops up. Yeah, I'm telling you. Hilda Knowlton. Yeah, something like that. Who have been very, very busy with the high-speed rail. Oh my goodness. High-speed rail is a good way to bankrupt the country, so that would be a positive thing for the Russians to do. Exactly. All aboard, trains good, planes bad. Woo-hoo! We might as well just get right into it.

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Mad Men High-Speed Rail Commercial and US PIRG

Actors Vincent Kartheiser and Rich Sommer appear in a "Mad Men" themed promotional video advocating for high-speed rail investment. The spot, produced for US PIRG, encourages citizens to contact senators and request bumper stickers. The hosts criticize the use of 19th-century technology and compare it to European Thalys train advertisements that promote Wi-Fi and luxury over car travel.

vincent kartheiser· rich sommer· mad men· us pirg· high-speed rail

16:33 Of course, many of you have already seen the video. You know, George Clooney predicted it. George Clooney said, what you're going to see is, oh, was it Newsweek or whatever? We're going to see celebrities, and today's show will be filled with them, celebrities being the ambassadors of goodwill to all men and all things on the planet. and uh... you know it as you're getting it all cranked up why don't you get the guys from admin to do a cute look cutesy little commercial for high-speed rail have you seen this john tell me you know i know i have not seen this i'm all your kidding me now my goodness so there's a busy watching c-span and i think i are need dunkin talk about that what's gonna happen the education system in this country let's get to that in a second let me play this uh... i'm not gonna get to it you will you know where we're gonna have we're gonna have to go along

17:25 So this is Vincent Cartizer, who was kind of the Weasley dude who I like in the show. And then actually a guy I know who was on the Big Ab Show, Rich Sommer. was a really nice guy and you know he's he's he's really into technology and he's a good actor and he's just a sweetheart of a guy well he got roped into this thing and it's him and so it's both their characters in the setting of mad men uh come trying to come up with a commercial for trains in you know like 1965 but actually of course it's a commercial for uh trains now. Harking's murder

18:07 Forget about that. What do you think about trains? Trains? Trains. High speed trains. I've been reading. The Japanese are gung-ho about high speed trains. I have no idea what to say to that. Picture this. A woman looking at her controls of a car. She's overwhelmed. Tired of all the knobs, levers and gizmos in your car. The simplicity of train travel. I assume that was your tag? Yes. Have you ever driven a car? They're not that complicated. They look complicated. Well, they're not. I did have one other idea. Actually, I don't think this works without the video, so I'm just gonna go straight to the tagline. So this goes on for like two and a half minutes, which is actually too long to make it work. So here's the tag.

18:59 We can't wait another decade to move forward on high-speed rail. The future is now. Tell your friends, tell your family, but most importantly, if you agree, then tell your senators. Find out how and get a bumper sticker to show your support at madcastrains.com. Get a bumper sticker to show your support. Get a bumper sticker. This is for like... Let's go back to the 19th century ladies and gentlemen. 19th century technology coming at you. Very expensive. Only two lines, one in Japan and one in France. High speed rail makes any money. They all lose money. Big drain on the taxpayers. But the crazy thing is... in the United States of Europe, they've actually made the commercial these guys are talking about for Thales. They've made the exact commercial telling you that cars suck, trains are good, and of course they've updated it because it's not like traffic, no the Wi-Fi is great.

19:51 This by the way apparently is running everywhere in Europe and you can't get away from it Leave your troubles outside Here the seats are beautiful The Wi-Fi is beautiful Even the meals are beautiful Ah, perfect. Thalys, van harte welkom. So they're using a song... Why do they have English in there? Just so they can catch a few tourists? Yeah, no, it's for everybody, you know. It's the whole song, welkom and bienvenue, good evening. That's a multi-language song. That's why they had a meeting, a long series of meetings about this. What song can we get? What can we license? Who can we make rich by doing this? And now, ladies and gentlemen, Thalys!

21:01 Bringing you yesterday's technology tomorrow. It's just is despicable. It's absolutely despicable by the way the the madman spot is brought to you by PIRG Another outfit we got to keep our eyes on I'm loaning it. These guys just want to steal our money. You know, this is not the time in the economy with the economic downturn to be stealing our money with heisting and all the scams. Well, they're saying exactly the opposite. By the way, USPIRG, standing up to powerful interests. Oh, it's USPIRG? Oh, that's interesting. USPIRG. Okay, PIRG. Well, there's a group called CalPIRG, which is related to these folks.

CHAPTER 06 / 36 Discussion

California Bottle Bill and US PIRG Financial Transparency

The California "bottle bill" is characterized as a hidden tax on consumers pushed by CalPIRG and US PIRG. The discussion asserts that most glass was already being recycled by factories before the legislation passed. Criticism is directed at the 501(c)(3) organizations for their lack of financial transparency and their alignment with corporate lobbying interests despite claiming to represent the public.

calpirg· us pirg· bottle bill· recycling tax· 501c3

21:47 Perg, Perg. That's what they call themselves, Calperg. Calperg, this is US Perg. And these are the assholes, and I don't cuss much on this show. No you don't, John. That push through the so-called bottle bill in California and still brag about it to this day. So every time you buy a can of soda or a bottle of soda, you pay an extra five cents, which is essentially a tax. on top of it so to recycle this bottle which you never recycle by the way you end up throwing it into the recycling bin in your local garbage company and they recycle it and they get whatever they get out of it. This is before the bottle bill was ever passed I was working for the government at the time and most bottles were already being recycled by most systems and in fact if you went to a glass company factory and I had inspected a number of them there were unbelievable

22:36 piles and piles of bottles that were going back into the glass company to be recycled into making new glassware, generally brown bottles, because this stuff, you know, they mixed up a lot of the colors. They couldn't keep them all white. Whatever the case was, it was a complete ripoff of the public, but the public, oh, we got to recycle, we've got to get the bottles out of the, oh, there's bottles all over, bums are picking them up, by the way, which is another way that recycling works, naturally. So we are paying, if you go to the store and you buy a bottle of water, you pay an extra nickel, a dime, whatever it is, it could be a lot of different, it varies, for every bottle because of these guys. And nobody has said anything about it, about, you know, saying, well, why are we doing this? Why are we paying this extra tax for every bottle of water that we buy or every bottle of Coke? And nobody questions it. Oh, well, you know, it's just for the good of the environment. It's for recycling. Bull crap.

23:30 But what's funny is their whole idea is we're standing up to powerful interests and then you look at their websites like well, we need to have healthcare work, we need high speed rail, they're totally on board with the whole program. You don't stand up for anybody. And of course, once again I'm like, let's go look at the financials. And they talk a lot about featured giving opportunities. John, we're not using the right language. Featured giving opportunities? Featured giving opportunities and planned giving. And what was the other one? Planned giving. Oh yeah, planned. Well, we have planned giving kind of. Yeah, but of course if you want the actual financial report you have to write a letter. You have to write a letter to them.

24:24 Oh, it's crazy. It's just crazy. 501c3 organization conducts research and public education on emerging public interest issues. We're taking on the big corporate lobbyists. No you're not. 21st century transit on track. American high-speed rail is ready to leave the station. What, lobbyists are against high-speed rail? No, they love it. Exactly, no one's against it. chemical facilities must be safer. It's crazy and we're being inundated and you can't get the information. The transparency is no longer there. We're just not showing it. I had a doozy by the way. So on March 7th, I didn't see this until the 8th, President Obama signed an executive order, John, an executive order

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Obama Executive Order on Guantanamo Bay Indefinite Detention

President Barack Obama signed an executive order on March 7, 2011, establishing a periodic review process for detainees held at Guantanamo Bay. The order effectively formalizes indefinite detention without trial, contradicting 2008 campaign promises to close the facility within one year. A typo in the original White House posting of the order, using the word "pursuant" incorrectly, is noted.

barack obama· guantanamo bay· executive order· indefinite detention· federal register

25:24 and the executive order maybe you've amongst all the Charlie Sheen news and the Libya wag the dog maybe you heard about this uh... president obama released uh... an executive order march seventh two thousand eleven periodic review of individuals detained at guantanamo bay naval station pursuant to the authorization for use of military force and uh... indefinite detention i heard this okay now if you support is the funny thing so i'm looking at did you hear what i just said let me read it again to you this is from white house dot gov

26:02 periodic review of individuals detained at Guantanamo Bay Naval Station pursuant to the authorization for use of military force. Pursuant. No, no. It says pursuant. It says pursuant? Pursuant! And I'm like, what? So I go to the dictionary, like pursuant, is this a word that I don't understand? And of course it's not. It should be pursuant. And I'm thinking, and there's not even any margin for error. I'm thinking if these guys can't run an executive order through a spellchecker... You know it was going through a spellchecker, they just ignored the little underline. How can we presume that they actually checked it for constitutionality? It's a stretch, but it's amusing. And so I bitched about this, I twitted about it, ten hours later they change it. So hey, someone's listening. They change it to pursuant, but of course on the index page it's still pursuant.

26:57 I took a screenshot of it, I just thought it was too funny. An executive order that they didn't spell check. I'm waiting for it to show up in the federal register incorrectly. Because then of course it can't be invalid because pursuant is not a word. And this thing is crazy. Indefinite detention without trial. John, we're screwed. That's it. It's over. Good night, go home. Wait a minute, hold on a sec. This makes no sense. This goes completely against everything Obama promised us. Well well well it's funny you bring that up because I'm stalling I have a I Have you looking something up your mission? What? Operating that's taken forever. It's it's my eyes. It's my old eyes now. I'm looking for the I'm looking for the clip of where here it is BBC clip they actually they did a better job than I could have and

27:57 Within days of taking office, President Obama promised to close Guantanamo and with it an unedifying chapter in American history. And we then provide the process whereby Guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from now. That was two years ago. And now! But more than two years later, there are still around 170 detainees held without trial. This is the thing that kills me. This whole thing is about a hundred and seventy dudes and what's happening now including the New York Times, the spineless, ball-less New York Times are saying well the president had no choice because you know Congress won't allow trials in the United States so it's Congress's fault, a Republican Congress by the way.

28:45 which is just unbelievable what what happened to it and they made them carriages got in it was the reason was to take care of this by the city congress is this it's congress that that it was in a year congress was democrat until like just like a month ago this is the uh... the new york times opinion page the editorials this comes i guess from that russian guy and uh... on monday that promise crumbled the victim of congressional spinelessness and president obama inability to create political support for a way out of the moral quagmire created by his predecessor please please the new york times is run by the russians npr is run by the russians charlie sheen show is getting better that's all i know is getting better

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and No Agenda Domain Forwards

James Pierce and Jan Persiel are credited as Executive Producers for the episode. Jan Persiel reports on the difficulty of donating via PayPal while teaching journalism in India. Several new listener-registered domain names are announced, including DvorHacked.org and JustSendUsYourCash.com, which redirect to the show's donation page.

james pierce· jan persiel· 285 club· donation· domain names

29:41 But it's I have I'm flabbergasted. I'm just flabbergasted that this is about the Russians. We might as well actually let's do our exit. We only have a couple executive producers unfortunately, so let's get to them and then we'll talk about the Russians. All right. Namely the reports of what's going on in Iraq. Oh yes, I have that too. Yeah. Okay. You mean Libya? I'm sorry, yes. Iraq, Libya, it's all wag the doug. Whatever you want to call it. Wag the doug. Alright, we got one executive producer, one associate executive producer for this week's show, James Pierce from Copperus Cove, or Coprus Cove, Copperus I guess. Texas, thanks for the priceless information and entertainment you provide every week. The most horrible parts of my week are when your show ends.

30:33 And I have to find something else to listen to. Oh, the agony. Anyway, there's always national treasure. It's comedy. I've sold my wedding band. I'm passing the money on to you. Oh, no. Now I'm still a little slave, but just more free. Can you please slap some karma in my brother's face? He's recently laid off and needs a new job. James Pierce. 300. Sure. You've got karma. uh... and now we've got our our one loan for loan member of the fabulous two eighty five club and associate executive producer jen persil from hamburg deutschland their john and adam uh... fortnight ago i registered cycle for cash dot com which redirects no agenda donation pays well i guess it's best

31:24 Test to actually visit it right since it is a my birthday on the 10th of March I am currently in India teaching journalists how to create podcasts and real news and use challenge coins What does this coin you have wouldn't be funny if NPR started issuing challenge coins Value for value yeah really felt that it's time to be a 285 club member and II I need some karma for my search for a new office by the way don't Donating from India is actually hard to do. PayPal locked down my account immediately when I logged in from India. Gee, I wonder why. Let me give him some karma first. You've got karma. He says he's looking forward to being back in Hamburg in two weeks. Keep up the good work, Jan Persiel. I'll pronounce for your help, John. Jan Persiel. It looks like he had another donation on the list though.

32:19 there's a hundred eleven eleven blue that two slots down policy that ok will make an executive producer that is totally and i have a i have a socialists i have a a late entry to the two eighty five club i don't know why it's not on the list uh... but it looks valid from nick ball john adams is my donation for the two eighty five club if you could please mention my non and supported podcast the gadget gurus and call up my two co-hosts mike and vic as douchebags I gotta do another one for him. Keep up the great work, I love the show. Yeah, I saw that come through too, but it never showed up on the spreadsheet. Well, I'd hate for him to have done it and it not be true if we will take appropriate measures if it's... Yeah, tell him he should also go look at his account and make sure that they posted it correctly. Wait a minute, the shill says he donated $2.85. Oh. Oh, pfft, what a trick.

33:21 I got tricked. I got tricked. My fault. I don't like that. Well, you don't know that. He may have... No, no. I'm saying the shill just pinged me on that. Yeah, I know. I realized that. But it's possible that he put in the wrong amount and... We'll find out. That's possible. That's totally possible. And of course we give people the benefit of the doubt here. Without a doubt. So that's our executive producers for this show. Dan Purseel and James Pierce. Thanks guys. Devorak.org slash N-A. Just a quick number of PR mentions, some domain name forwards. There's so many of them. Any good ones? Yeah, there's a couple of them. I liked...

34:09 Asia renewable energy dot-com who solar work group calm good Kyle registered Davorak org that was a good idea yeah which I think you should have Davorak dot-com dot org slash na work I'm sure it will but that that seems pretty important I heard the other day, I'm not sure, maybe it was Shana or maybe Citizen X. Citizen X registered DvorHacked.org. DvorHacked. I like that. We've got NotInMyNews.com, which I like. Technorednecks.com, a throwback to our techno experts. Bearfight.com and then I think something that

35:03 Bill Clinton and George W. Bush will be very jealous of just send us your cash dot com. Yeah I saw that one that was pretty funny. I think that's a very very good one. So we appreciate the work that you PR associates are doing all that of course listed in the show notes at noagendashow.com and muchas gracias to Yann Parcile And I'll just add Nick ball to that and James Pierce is our executive producer of episode 285 of course if you're in the 285 club like Jan is then it's closed That's it. You can't get in anymore the next club that will be opening up as of now is the 286 club everyone else out there has a mission the mission is go out and propagate the formula Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

No Agenda Show Teaser and Third Weekly Episode Proposal

A mock teaser for the next episode features topics like Justin Bieber and the Kardashians. The hosts discuss the possibility of adding a third weekly show on Tuesdays to cover the high volume of news. This expansion would require a significant increase in listener donations under the "value for value" model to allow the hosts to dedicate more time to the program.

justin bieber· kardashians· value for value· podcasting· schedule

35:55 Before we continue I would like to at least do a teaser. Well, hold on a second Coming up on the Noah Jettner show It's a clip says teaser. I Didn't I don't know what you're talking about. Hold on a second Got it, okay, let's try it again. Let's let's try this. I Coming up on the No Agenda Show. Celebrity meltdown showdown. Lesbians mad at Justin Bieber. The unbelievable new reason today why some lesbians are upset with the Biebs. And the question that the best scientists in the world have not been able to answer. Why are the Kardashians famous? That's right everybody, we've got the Biebs.

36:46 Upset at the Biebs on the next No Agenda show. Wow John, I'm riveted. We're a little short on producers this week so we're going to the Justin Bieber well. Yeah when you go to the Biebs, when the Biebs are angry at the Biebs, that's the show title right there. Biebs angry at the Biebs. I'm just saying. They have some term for themselves. Yeah, clam bumpers. Now, what were we going toward? What was the topic? My topic is, while we're just on the donation front here... Devorak.org. Please help us out. We need all the help we can get. I tell ya.

37:27 I tell you, I think we should try it. I think we should do a third show on Tuesday. There is enough news happening, John. With this noagendanewsnetwork.com, there is enough news. I got like 50 stories and they're all brilliant and I've got audio clips and everything. This thing is on fire. We can do this but people would have to double the giving level because essentially I'm quitting everything else then. And you'd have to quit some stuff too. But I think we can, I mean, if the giving levels are there, why wouldn't we try it? Well, but how do we know if we don't try it? Maybe we try it and we give them like, you know, four weeks and if it's not there, we go back. But then we're backtracking. Yeah, but we're in irons. Well, if you got all these stories, let's do one.

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Russia Today Report on Libya Media Staging

A Russia Today report suggests that media coverage of the Libyan unrest is being staged or exaggerated by Western and Arab outlets. Footage shows Al Jazeera crews allegedly coaching crowds in Benghazi to appear more militant for the cameras. The hosts discuss Hillary Clinton's endorsement of Al Jazeera and the presence of English-language signage in supposedly organic protest zones.

russia today· libya· benghazi· al jazeera· hillary clinton

38:17 okay I got tons of stories like what so what all right well why don't we just get on the wag the dog wag the dog trail okay let's do the real okay so there so Russia today had a which of course is now by the way is a couple of interesting things going on I think the Russian today a little episode that was passed around it will be on the show notes kind of expose what we've also been seeing from certain Russian bloggers and other news sources I have the audio if you're interested yeah I want to play it and see what these how long you take them on a second it was a what was it called again

38:57 It was Russia Today, right? Yeah, it was Russia Today, but it was a report on... Yeah, media blame for Libya unrest. Yeah. And I have a couple other clips to back it up, but this was on Russia Today and I've clipped the intro off for obvious purposes. The allure of a war. Incomprehensible as it sounds, it's present in any conflict. Just days ago these parents feared for their children's lives. Today they are taking their pictures in front of the tanks. The desire to be captured laughing in the face of danger is even stronger among journalists. And the conflict in Libya is providing a perfect setting for it.

39:37 On TV screens, Benghazi may look like the center of the rebel resistance. The country is waking to another day of chaos. Gaddafi may have lost about half of his country. They watch these bombs fall from the skies. But in reality, it's more like a seaside resort than a conflict zone. Hotels are fully booked with journalists and residents. It's a junket, I tell you. Everyone's like, hey dudes, party in Libya! Tripoli, here we come! We're on the beach. it's and you see the pictures that go along with this report is beautiful is beautiful people like hanging out drinking tea swim in good time and then they and then they go in a form a little group and take a film and make it sound like something's going on and uh... but she did what they have fascinated me the most i notice that you noticed that which is the that she caught the al jazeera crew right on on a balcony

40:33 on a balcony with their cameras exhorting a crowd so they can get some good shots of people, you know, shaking their fist. And of course, if anyone else hasn't noticed, is most of the signage is in English and many of the, you know, the spokespeople that come up talking all speak, you know, reasonably good English. And the first thing that came to mind when I saw the Al Jazeera crew doing this was Hillary Clinton. Why does Hillary Clinton, out of the blue, when Al Jazeera first formed it was a huge insult to the Jewish community and everybody in between, and then if they were like you expect, you assume, which they were taken over by MI6, and then became like a spokeshole for God knows what, but the British are really into taking over Libya.

41:19 So they're in there trying to make it look like something's going on and Hillary comes out and says that the best news sources is Al Jazeera. And Russia Today, which is this is like a double whammy this report. It's right in the beginning. This is such bullcrap and the fact is our news, because our people can't be trusted to hold out with this bullcrap. In other words, even CNN, which I do have a clip, which I want to play it's Anderson Cooper going on and on but every time he shows something now he he he couches everything with we don't know if this is real we don't know if this is the jit we don't know if this is right taking yesterday we don't know this we don't know that yet Anderson Cooper is is his intros are always Libby crazy Libyan leader Gaddafi lies again that's that's the news guy Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper elitist prick

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

BBC and CNN Libya War Zone Reporting Analysis

Analysis of BBC and CNN field reports from Libya highlights inconsistencies in the "war zone" narratives. A BBC correspondent is shown without a helmet while claiming to be under fire, and footage of jets is allegedly edited in from other sources. The hosts point out a specific video where a person's head is digitally blocked out, suggesting the presence of unidentified intelligence operatives among the rebels.

bbc· cnn· anderson cooper· libya· war reporting

42:10 You want me to play the CNN on Iraq? Why did you say Iraq? I don't know. I keep saying, I keep mixing our red. This is funny, isn't it? It's a Freudian slip. Of course, because it's exactly the same game. Opposition forces say the town of Misurata east of Tripoli remains under their control tonight. The streets, they say, are calm for now, but fighting in Misurata has... So they say, according to the tweets. I love the soundtrack. All right, up with the gunfight! gunfire gunfire gunfire need to hear gunfire gunfire behind our podcast oh yeah we do could someone please drop a gunfire for me in the drop box so I in the open source point out which it just came to mind is if you haven't noticed when they show all these clips of these rebels out in the middle nor with this crazy anti-aircraft thing hooked to a Jeep yeah I love that in this it right this thing is like pumping

43:00 book rockets into the air boom boom boom boom boom there's no planes around they're just shooting it's even better hold on i gotta take you to this clip so um we've got uh the bbc you know of course the bbc is definitely compromised by british intelligence we know that so the the bbc they've got this dude and uh... and the the video just doesn't correspond with what he's saying so it's like we're under attack and he doesn't have a helmet on there in the car keep your head down but doesn't have a helmet on because of course i would mess up his hair yeah check this out at dawn this morning it was immediately clear that the rebels enthusiasm and fighting spirit was fading it's carried them a hundred and fifty miles westwards along the coast beating colonel gaddafi's troops back all the way

43:47 But now their supply lines are stretched and Colonel Gaddafi's troops are starting to fight on more friendly territory. Yesterday we went with the rebels to the next town, Benjawad, which they attacked fiercely. But the defenders had better weapons. And this morning when we went up to Benjawad, we found that the rebels had faded away during the night. Faded away. From a distance we saw a checkpoint which we eventually decided was probably manned by Gaddafi. So they're standing like a hundred yards away. I mean, it's just like you see a couple of Toyotas there. A checkpoint that looks like Libyan guards. Loyalists. It was. A couple of soldiers opened fire in our direction. Cue, cue fire.

44:35 Just keep your head down. Keep your head down. Keep your head down. And he doesn't have a helmet on! I've been to a war zone! They make, you are obliged to wear a helmet. We drove back hastily down the road to the important oil town captured by the rebels on Friday night. But today far fewer of them were making a stand here. Now check this out. You hear that John? It's great. And so John, we're here in the war zone John and it's really bad. I need better gunfire guys. It's only like one. I need better. This is not good enough. He needs a machine gun.

45:15 Yeah, this is not good. Or hack, hack, gun. Yeah, so John we're in the war zone here on the No Agenda show. Anyway, so what happens is now we have to get the no fly zone thing in so we're going to insert a shot of a jet flying by. Listen, it's crazy, just listen to this. It's been quite a success for Colonel Gaddafi's army. So they insert a shot of a jet flying by. And then check this out. So this is a different shot, they've overlapped the sound so you see the dudes just shooting into the air at nothing, right? This shot was like Steven Spielberg, it was like Top Gun, they took a clip from that.

46:06 So they have the jet flying, they've got the guy shooting and then he's circled around. Oh sorry, we don't have any video of that. The bomb landed away from the... Oh, we don't have any video of the bomb. ...positions, though whether the pilot missed on purpose wasn't clear. So they don't actually have video of it. It was so far away. But then there's something interesting and I would like our producers, NOAA General listeners of course, our producers to check this out. In this video, where they're running away from like, I don't know, the producer saying, okay, run, queue. There's a guy whose head is blocked out. There's a guy running in this little group of journalists and his head is wiped out. Oh, the CIA guy. Must be someone of some import.

46:51 Yeah, they've literally blocked it out. I'm like wow that's we need to have war footage and then block that guy out and not mention it and not mention it not say like you know that was our translator or something like that that it to me was like wow you know it's highly suspicious more gunshots people we don't have we need more gunshots we don't have any John I need to do this show with gunshots so we can be like hip like like Anderson God John it's really bad here How is it where you are? I guess I cleared up. I'm near the rebels, John. It's getting really bad. You should loop that. You know, it's like, let's go back to the Anderson Cooper clip. So he starts doing these disclaimers, but they're also showing hospital shots.

47:33 and it's a loop of about three shots and they keep bringing the same guys in, you know? It's like, here comes another one, it's the same guy! Bloody crelaches over the weekend left dozens dead, dozens wounded, according to a doctor at Central. Dozens according to? Misrata Hospital. He said a three-year-old child was among those killed. Save the children! I want to warn you this next video is disturbing. The voice narrating it says, these are the people who tried to attack the city of Misrata on March 6th. Yeah, I watched that video. Was it disturbing to you? No, not in the least. It wasn't disturbing at all. It was like, it was the voiceover that's disturbing. It was on Sunday. CNN cannot independently confirm where or when that video was shot nor who those people are. They are wearing uniforms. Likewise, we can't confirm witness reports in Misrata because we don't have reporters there. Earlier I talked to a young woman in Misrata about what she has seen and what she's bracing for. Now, now, stop there. Stop, stop. Alright. So, okay, they can't confirm anything. We don't have reporters, even though Al Jazeera does.

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

Anderson Cooper Libya Interviews and Sound Effect Criticism

CNN's Anderson Cooper conducts interviews with residents in Misrata and Zawiya who describe dire conditions, including cuts to water and electricity. The hosts criticize the repetitive use of hospital footage and the lack of independent verification by CNN. They mock the dramatic production style and suggest the sound of gunfire in the background is insufficient for a real combat zone.

anderson cooper· cnn· misrata· zawiya· sound effects

46:51 Yeah, they've literally blocked it out. I'm like wow that's we need to have war footage and then block that guy out and not mention it and not mention it not say like you know that was our translator or something like that that it to me was like wow you know it's highly suspicious more gunshots people we don't have we need more gunshots we don't have any John I need to do this show with gunshots so we can be like hip like like Anderson God John it's really bad here How is it where you are? I guess I cleared up. I'm near the rebels, John. It's getting really bad. You should loop that. You know, it's like, let's go back to the Anderson Cooper clip. So he starts doing these disclaimers, but they're also showing hospital shots.

47:33 and it's a loop of about three shots and they keep bringing the same guys in, you know? It's like, here comes another one, it's the same guy! Bloody crelaches over the weekend left dozens dead, dozens wounded, according to a doctor at Central. Dozens according to? Misrata Hospital. He said a three-year-old child was among those killed. Save the children! I want to warn you this next video is disturbing. The voice narrating it says, these are the people who tried to attack the city of Misrata on March 6th. Yeah, I watched that video. Was it disturbing to you? No, not in the least. It wasn't disturbing at all. It was like, it was the voiceover that's disturbing. It was on Sunday. CNN cannot independently confirm where or when that video was shot nor who those people are. They are wearing uniforms. Likewise, we can't confirm witness reports in Misrata because we don't have reporters there. Earlier I talked to a young woman in Misrata about what she has seen and what she's bracing for. Now, now, stop there. Stop, stop. Alright. So, okay, they can't confirm anything. We don't have reporters, even though Al Jazeera does.

48:30 and it and and and let me just say the elders if you've ever been to a television taping like of I don't know two and a half men what you'll see is you'll see the producer usually with the script in hand and he'll be like whooping up the crowd you know like raising his arms up raising his arms up yay yay yay so people get all crazy and they're all like yeah this is fantastic This is exactly what this guy was doing. It was just unbelievable. John, it's really, really horrible here and I don't know what we're going to do in the war zone. I understand you're being invaded by aliens there in Los Angeles. Yes, it's really bad, John. It's really bad. Oh no! We've got jets coming in, John! What am I going to do? Oh, it sounds like they say that there's lots of rebels around here and I think they're right.

49:28 I'm glad you got that nice hairdo. So now Anderson Cooper brings out some woman who sounds like she's a girl from the San Fernando Valley. What is it in the same clip? Yeah. So it says she has a contact in Zawiya and talked about that for her safety. We're not identifying her. I understand you know somebody who just got out of Zawiya. What did they say? um... they were just telling us how bad the situation in zahle he had to leave zahle thirty kilometers out of zahle just so he could get a telephone reception he told us that everything's been cut off all the sources of communication so telephone services both cell phones, their electricity's been cut off their water's been cut off

50:16 They're shooting from tanks, from guns, essentially everything. The situation is so unsafe. They're breaking into houses. They're not leaving. Even children are getting killed. They need to get some better sound effects. This is what it should be sounding like in the background. A rail gun. Anderson's got shitty sound effects. Ours are much, much better. Like they're not... The thing is, they're not leaving anybody out. Do you know what I mean? They're like shooting aimlessly at people. Anyone who tries to step out. I have a friend whose uncle passed away the day before yesterday and we couldn't even get out to bury him because of how unsafe the situation is. What is the situation where you are in Misrata?

51:07 As of today, it's pretty calm, but it's really unpredictable. Like we can't even sleep at night because every time we hear a sound, it's like automatically we think it's like a helicopter or we think it's firing. So it's really, really, really stressful. Really, really, really, really stressful. That sounds like Los Angeles. I got helicopter. I got Chinooks going over all the time. It's like, John, it's, you know what? It's getting really, really kind of stressful here. It's stressful stressful. I tell you all right. Oh, I love that soundboard It's like I think that there's somebody botched this whole operation because I don't know what they were they were hoping Kaddafi's gonna leave like his kids scramble off to Argentina and Well, I disagree. I think I'm I'm

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

Celebrity Activism in Africa and Congo Pipeline Interests

Ben Affleck's testimony before Congress regarding the crisis in the Democratic Republic of the Congo is linked to regional oil interests. The discussion posits that celebrity "ambassadors" like Affleck and George Clooney are used to build public support for interventions in countries where major oil pipelines are planned. A map of Africa is described showing a strategic line of influence from Libya down to South Africa.

ben affleck· george clooney· congo· sudan· oil pipeline

51:57 I think it is much bigger, it's a very ambitious plan and of course the idea is to go from North Africa all the way down to South Africa so that you know we've got a clear shot we can put a train in there to get to the soccer match. We've got Egypt, we've got Libya, right underneath that we've got Sudan, George Clooney keepin' watch. Then underneath all of that we've got the Congo, John. we've got a man it has its hollywood representative oh yes and who would that be ban affluent time of of heightened concern over federal spending some suggest that austerity demands we turn a blind eye to the crisis in congo was the crisis in congo john what is going on there i don't know what i don't know i don't know i i think uh... i'm reporting here from the congo

52:44 I believe nothing could be more misguided. It would simply be Pennywise and Pound foolish to allow the Congo to... Pennywise and Pound... and the dudes behind him, his handlers, if you watch his video, this is congressional hearing. and are shaking their head like yeah good boy good boy yeah yeah you go and he's reading the whole thing he's great i mean the guy knows how to do delivers like course he's an actor yeah ben he's a good one you deliver ben that's great his bud is buddy what's his name uh who's the other one the uh who's also getting involved in all these things um yeah uh the the the other dude the other guy yeah matt what's his name uh we got matt damon matt damon he's the one

53:25 and then i flick madden and i don't know where the end of the year they haven't given him a for permanent assignment yet he's he's getting was like horrible listen here's your assignment that assignment you know everybody else is going to sign it you know ben's got one of the georgia's got one more this month here's your assignment and by and by the way there was a bit of mention i think the affleck were not done not affleck but uh... Geez, I can't remember his name from one second to the next. Ted. No, that's already, we already know. No, it's Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. So Matt Damon is on the Piers Morgan show. Yeah, I saw that. Oh my god. And he's like, you know, apparently he's, you know, tight with Clooney too. Duh! These guys all hang. Weren't they all in Oceans 11, 12, and 13? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. So there was, um, it was actually quite interesting. Let me see if I can find this. Yeah, it's under the, uh, Wag the Dog.

54:23 So one of the ministers of parliament in the United States of Europe, I'm sorry, EU commissioner went off message. And I wish I had some video or audio of this. EU observer says this. Speaking to press at an event organized by the Malta Business Bureau, Malta by the way, groovy hangout. uh... on march uh... fifth friday the u health commissioner who was along history of business links with libya said quote he didn't think he had the right for anyone else to make a statement on whether good off he should step down he said i think it dot he should make his own decisions he has the assessment of the people and he has said on tv as he said on tv and here comes i think uh... i think it dot is made the first attempt towards uh... conciliation

55:15 And then, uh, where is, I'm looking for this, I should have highlighted this. I want the exact quote. I'm sorry, I'm boning. Paraphrasing, if I could just find, it's a long article. Paraphrasing, he says, what is being shown on television is not the true situation. Yeah, but he went off, but he totally went off message of course to save his own skin, his own ass, his own money or whatever he's got riding on this. And by saying that it's like wow. So there's a little factoid that floated through the ether.

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

Robert Gates and David Petraeus Libya Hot Mic Incident

A video captures a candid exchange between Defense Secretary Robert Gates and General David Petraeus on a runway, where they jokingly reference bombing Libya. Meanwhile, Donald Rumsfeld appears on various news programs, including the O'Reilly Factor and Piers Morgan Tonight, to defend the character of Afghan President Hamid Karzai.

robert gates· david petraeus· libya· donald rumsfeld· o'reilly factor

55:59 that was, I think it was picked up on CNN and kind of bounced around. Nobody paid much attention to it. But I did, which was the comment was Qaddafi, this I guess took place a few days ago, Qaddafi said that he would leave, he'd quit if they just let him out of the country intact with his money. and the supposedly whoever's representing the rebels would and you know it is I don't know that they have a representative they said no. No, you can't do that. No, that's not in the script. Did you see Petraeus welcome gates on the shut up. You see Petraeus welcome gates on the on the runway in Libya there? No. Check this out. It's gonna be hard to understand I think but maybe so I can process it a bit. Here we go listen to this.

56:54 Now you can't hear it. So they don't know that they're being taped. You got to see the video because it's subtitled and and so Gates gets off the plane. Petraeus says, hey, a much bigger plane than usual. What are you doing? Going to bomb Libya? And Gates says, yeah, that's right. Hilarious. Well that's kind of a funny bit that took place. I have this Rumsfeld, you know Rumsfeld who's been going around saying that Karzai is the world's greatest guy and he's not corrupt. Yeah, good old Ted. He was on O'Reilly on Wednesday. Yeah. I think he's been on a couple of times. He was on Piers Morgan!

57:38 Right, saying the same thing. Yeah, I mean, and for, he's, so all this money's going, this is, this is, Rumsfeld, Ted Rumsfeld, all he wants is he just wants a big blowjob. Can someone just blow the guy already and get it over with? I'm sorry, that's all, you know, like, oh the money's going to charity and blah blah blah. If he, he'll go on anything. He'll be on like, uh, Cribs next. Yeah, it's my sauna, it's where I work out, cause I'm hanging here. I'm Ted, I'm Ted, yo, to the shizzle, Rumsfeld. So play this clip because I think it's funny because he won't even acknowledge that Obama's president. Afghanistan, Obama doing the right thing? I have a lot of confidence in Patrice. I think he's a sensible man and a fine general officer.

58:20 the reality is that country's gonna have to nation-build itself we can't nation-build another country. Give me odds of that happening everybody says the Afghans just not gonna do that it's too corrupt too backward. Oh I hear that corrupt baloney listen is there a how many... We already played this we already played this baloney clip I don't know, there must have been a rerun. But anyway, I think he just says the same thing over and over. Whatever the case is, I just got the biggest kick out of him saying, I think Obama's doing a good job. I think Petraeus is doing a good job. He won't even say Obama. I saw a couple of things I saw. One was, and I don't think I have a clip of this.

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Bill Richardson on Arming Libyan Rebels Covertly

Former Governor Bill Richardson suggests on CNN that the United States should covertly arm Libyan rebels and establish a no-fly zone. Richardson emphasizes the need to develop a "civil society" in Libya, which the hosts interpret as a code for securing oil interests for Western companies like BP and Exxon. The segment notes that transcripts of the interview were allegedly edited to remove the specific mention of covert arming.

bill richardson· wolf blitzer· cnn· covert ops· libyan rebels

58:58 But when Ted Rumsfeld was on Pierce Morgan, he said, you know, Colin Powell should go in. Colin Powell should go in and talk to, I'm like, wow, there you go. Let's get the guy out. Get this guy out of there. He's got one foot in the grave. How old is he? I don't know. But he's like, yeah, Colin Powell needs to go in. That's the guy that can do it. And then Bill Richardson. Now this was interesting because I watched this on the wrong television of course. While I was having lunch, my sammich, and he was on CNN. I think I saw this. He was with Wolf Blitzer. And of course these guys like buddy buddy, you know, oh we've been to North Korea together.

59:42 I guess they can go to North Korea. Ling-Ling has to get rescued by Clinton. But apparently it's okay for Wolf Blitzer. Bill Richardson, former governor of, what was he? Arkansas? New Mexico or I think it was New Mexico. He was also the secretary of energy during the bill clinton days and he said so he said something on the show he said you know i think we should arm the rebels covertly alike how that made that's just coming out and saying it yeah i think which of course already doing i said that is a bunch of guys have said i know but here's what's interesting so i go back and i look at the interview and the and cnn website only has a little snippet which is a irrelevant snippet like a doffy should give up or whatever

1:00:26 And then they have a transcript of the entire interview and that part is cut out! They don't actually have the, I think he, he, someone said, you know, hey, we got to stop with the covert arms because that's what we're doing. You got to stop doing that. But I was able to find a clip of him saying this on one of the Sunday shows on CNN and he goes a little bit further. Meme after meme. Has the US handled this? Has the president handled this in a way that has made things more difficult now that it looks like Muammar Gaddafi has some staying power? He's on the Viagras. Well, I believe the president has handled this crisis well. His statement two days ago that Qaddafi must go lays a cornerstone for a policy. What I think the U.S. needs to do... Now listen carefully. If you listen to him in a different context, he's speaking the truth. So cornerstone for policy... Is one...

1:01:19 covertly arm the rebels. There we go, let's covertly arm the rebels which we're already doing because the rebels are of course Al Qaeda which are financed by the CIA or God knows who these days. We should take that step. develop a no-fly zone. I think that is going to be needed. Maybe we get the Brits and the French. This is exactly what we're going to do. The Brits and the French, who of course, they have all the oil interests in Libya, so we got to get... and they're already drawing up the draft. And the Italians and the Arab League are... And the Italians, they don't want the Libyans flooding their country, and the Arab League, you know, screw them. Some kind of no-fly zone is going to be necessary, mainly to send a message to Libya's military in Qaddafi that the US and... Is going to kick your ass! The international community is not with them. Protect those refugees. Find ways to help those refugees. The refugees, these are all people, they're immigrants.

1:02:14 We're working shit jobs, you know like dangerous jobs in the oil fields and they're like, oh, let's get the hell out of dodge I don't want they're not Libyans These refugees? Yeah, they're ending up on some island off the Italian coast. Yeah, yeah, the Ellis Island of Italy. Throw them on there, slave island. Get out of Libya. Find ways too that we can develop in Libya what is called a civil society. Yeah, which is called an oil-based society. That's what he meant, code word for civil. Respect for human rights. uh... democratic institutions like a bp uh... start now i like that idea of steve hadley's of establishing the trust yeah trust the big oil trust uh... a financial trust uh... oil trust that that develops those uh... democratic reforms in libya yes so that we can uh... divvy up the oil feeds like iraq get in there early uh... but again uh... there's huge you get in early before all

1:03:10 the Russians and the Chinese come back. Huge opportunities for American foreign policy in the Middle East. Yeah, the oil policy. To be associated with democratic institutions, with those protesters. Yeah, like Exxon. That want democracy and civil rights. And oil fields. Okay, okay, I think we got the point. So how come, that just dawned on me, how come Anderson Cooper, who went to Egypt, didn't go to Tripoli? there were no hotel rooms. He needed a suite and that bitch from CNN, what's her name? Christiane Alport. There's no CNN people there according to him. Well, there's no suites available. Anderson won't go if there's not a suite, you see. That could be. Yeah, and he wanted his own beach chair and everything. So anyway, I guess we need to wrap this up. Ladies and gentlemen, this is classic Wag the Doug.

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Oil Pipeline Geopolitics and Celebrity Intervention Casting

The hosts speculate on which celebrities will be assigned to various African nations to promote humanitarian intervention as a cover for oil pipeline construction. They reference the cast of "Oceans Eleven," suggesting Matt Damon for Uganda and Brad Pitt for other regional roles. The discussion links planned pipelines in the Congo, Kenya, and Uganda to the current wave of political unrest.

uganda· kenya· matt damon· brad pitt· oceans eleven

1:04:04 It is a big joke, big big joke and I guarantee you the next, it's Sudan and then the Congo because we've already got our celebrities all lined up and ready to do it. We've got Usher. Usher is now, of course Mariah Carey, but now Usher is saying, oh hey man I'm gonna give the money that I made from you know performing for the Libya from Gaddafi, I'm gonna give it to human rights organizations. So we've got a huge, I think this is the bottom line John. Of course, it's obvious what's going on is we want that oil and we want the Sudanese oil and I don't know what's going on in the Congo. They got oil there in the Congo? No, you know what this is, I can start researching this but let me for example just read, I just did a quick thing. Congo, and this is classic.

1:04:54 from earlier, mid 2010. Congo plans oil pipeline from Central Basin to Atlantic in 2015. Congo wants $3 billion pipeline to Central Oil Basin. Congo wants gas pipelines from Eastern border to Atlantic. Congo pipeline engineering jobs. Hey, they got some jobs posted. Jobs, jobs, jobs! Oilcareers.com. Yeah! from the Congo. Things are really bad, really, really bad. I think we need to apply, we need to apply zone over the Congo. My buddy Matt Damon is here. Matt, what do you think we should do? So the other one that's going to crop up, because I'm looking at this, I'm looking at a stream, Uganda. Well, that's right underneath the Congo. Of course, it's going to build a pipeline carrying the oil through the Congo.

1:05:49 It's hilarious, it's hilarious. So the only way we can do it, because we know it doesn't work, we can't go back and do the weapons of mass destruction thing because that, you know, it took a lot of covering up and lying to, and you know, and a lot of celebrity presidential slut squad distractions to get people off of that. So instead we need human rights. Wait, wait, wait, stop. I can't not interrupt you here. Okay. Because more recent news, October, because you have your little map, your theory was that this all, you know, a straight line and now it says Congo, Kenya, Uganda. So we have former E&I man plans pipeline. Yes. Congo and Gola into Chevron pipeline.

1:06:37 Uganda says it will be a pipeline anyway, okay, I'm done right so We need that we need a celebrity in Kenya the president well you gonna you gonna Matt Damon we got okay. Let's say we'll line them up as they come out Matt Damon's is lying. No it's for no We got Clooney in Sudan. He's right underneath Libya. Yeah, hi. This is George Clooney It's really bad here in Sudan the rebels are fighting. We need to sit quick. We need to save these people we need human assistance quickly All right, and we've got Matt Damon in the Congo I've traveled to this region many many times and has never seen the fighting this bad. No, it's afflux in the Congo

1:07:23 I'm sorry no a Damon will be then we should put Damon in in Uganda Yeah, Damon will have to go to Uganda, and then we need two more celebrities And we're got it covered who do we who can we get who is of the right ilk? Oh, no, no he no no bono screwed it up. No bonos. No good bono is bono boner No, no bonos. No good uh... maybe we have to know who else is in this crowd is this little click uh... well let's look at oceans eleven hold on a second let's look at the time it all stems from oceans eleven let's just see the cast of oceans eleven right uh... home on the second we've got uh... and i was another dude we could use

1:08:08 Paul Nolan, Elliot Gould, now too old. He's got to be a young hotshot. They've got to bring in a couple new guys into the fold here. How about Oceans 12? Let me see, they had a couple of these Oceans things. Yeah, they had three of them actually. Let me just see the cast. Maybe the chat room can help out. I mean we have Angelina Jolie would be a possible, oh Catherine Zeta-Jones she could be good, Julia Roberts. I think she's already done a good, Brad Pitt needs. Don Cheadle, Don Cheadle for the black uh the black uh slaves. Don Cheadle would be good but Pitt, don't forget Brad Pitt. Yeah Pitt.

1:08:45 Although he seems to go off script too much. Yeah, he's not really reliable. Yeah, we'll have to see Julia Roberts could be one I think Julia Roberts these people the women aren't gonna have the you know, there's a macho thing I think that you're gonna be less inclined to you know well yeah I don't know I mean but let's keep our eye on it and we'll have Miley Cyrus is being Andy Garcia Andy Garcia would be a good one Wesley Snipes I think he's in jail yeah that's cuz he didn't we wouldn't go I mean I think why is Wesley Snipes in jail

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Sean Penn in Haiti and the Clinton Foundation Art Project

Sean Penn's long-term presence in Haiti is discussed following his appearance on Anthony Bourdain's "No Reservations." The hosts critique the Clinton Foundation's focus on rebuilding an "art building" in Haiti to sell crafts to tourists rather than focusing on primary infrastructure. They characterize the celebrity involvement as a form of "power control" and "mind control."

sean penn· haiti· bill clinton· clinton foundation· anthony bourdain

1:09:22 He wouldn't go. Right, exactly. James Franco, we could send him. Robert Downey Jr. Now these guys got too much, there's too much riding. You gotta have, no, Robert Downey Jr. could be a good one. He might, well we'll just have to see. Well keep our eye on it, keep your eye out for, you know that Clinton is doing another fundraiser and he's got Drake performing. This is the new ambassadorship. This is the new thing and it does kind of bring the whole Charlie Sheen thing home to me. So he's completely, he's like I'm not going to do it. I think Sean Penn was sent in like hey Charlie man just come with me to Haiti and we'll make it all kind of look good and you got to do your thing.

1:10:04 Because it's all like it's all it's all power control mind control an odd piece about Sean Penn in Haiti I have a clip I didn't I didn't incorporate it, but I'll put it on maybe the next show if it's necessary But I don't think it is so it was Anthony Bourdain on no reservations meeting with Sean Penn who's who's apparently hold up in Haiti and And Pan is revealing, or he says, you know, the whole thing is about art. he's in this huge art community apparently the Haitians are like crazy artists. Well no that was the one project that Bill Clinton did is you know all those billions of dollars they rebuilt the art building which is the iron building it's called something like that and that's what he keeps showing if you go to the clintonfoundation.org you'll see that it's oh it's beautiful and people are making pottery and stuff like that and that's where all the rebuilding is being done at this one iron building as it's called

1:11:03 and where they make art arts and crafts to sell to the tourists who are coming. Yeah, exactly. It's an arts and crafts thing to sell to the tourists. But Penn is at the ground floor of this thing. Yeah. It's actually quite interesting. Oh yeah. Anyway. Penn is not going to be moved to Africa. He's just stuck. How about the Kardashians? I don't know, we're gonna have to see who crops up out of the blue. I think the Kardashians will be great. Well, I think they'd be great just to ship them to Africa. Tell them that there's a beach. There's a beach in the Congo. It's okay, you'll love it. Uganda. Uganda. You're gonna love it. Uganda love it, baby. Uganda love it. Uganda love it. Alright, we'll figure it out when it happens. We'll see it. As soon as it happens, we'll all go, wow, that's the guy. Right. We will go, wow. Like, oh.

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Jesse Jackson Jr. Constitutional Amendment Proposal

Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. advocates for amending the U.S. Constitution to include rights to a decent home, medical care, and education. Jackson suggests that such amendments would mandate the government to provide every student with a laptop and an iPod. The hosts compare this to right-wing efforts to constitutionalize social issues, labeling both sides as extreme.

jesse jackson jr· constitution· right to housing· ipod· laptop

1:11:55 So Jesse Jackson Jr. Have you seen this dude? I actually met him once. Really? How was he? Was he like zonked? I like him. Really? Yeah. Did you hear his recent diatribe? You know, I heard it and I've heard a bunch of people saying, yeah, this guy's crazy, this is nuts. But the fact of the matter is if you actually boil down what he said in some logical, weird, left-wing manner, Because the big thing everyone's bitching about I mean I know what it were this is coming from it's from the logic that No, you can't do that because it's not in the Constitution. You can't do that because it's not in the Constitution You got judge napal Napolitano taking over the Glenn Beck show as a constitution. You can't do it if it's not in the Constitution It's not doable as predicted by the way, so we predicted that very early on and so

1:12:47 okay well then put in the constitution because you can put anything you want in the constitution with an amendment yes so here's jesse jackson junior requesting just that i believe that the answer to long-term unemployment is actually in the constitution of the united states well let me say that a little differently it's not in the Constitution of the United States. It should be in the Constitution of the United States and one of these days we're going to get there. We need to add to the Constitution the right to a family to have a decent home. What would that do for home construction in this nation? What would that do for millions of unemployed people? He says we need to add to the Constitution the right to medical care. How many doctors would such a right create?

1:13:33 He says we need to add to the Constitution of the United States the right to a decent education for every American. How many schools would such a right build from Maine to California? How many people would be put to work building roofs and designing classrooms and providing every student with an iPod and a laptop? I think he needs to update it. It should be an iPad 2 and a laptop. It's hard to keep up. I think we should put that in the Constitution. Every kid needs an iPod and a laptop. So you know the thing about this is, yeah, well you could put it in. I mean no one's gonna vote it in by the way so this is like ridiculous and if it's in the Constitution doesn't mean that anything's gonna happen but the idea is no weirder

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

John McCain Misstatement on iPhone Manufacturing

Senator John McCain is criticized for claiming during a televised appearance that iPads and iPhones are built in the United States. The hosts point out that these devices are manufactured at Foxconn factories in China and only designed in Cupertino, California. They mock the senator's lack of understanding regarding modern global supply chains.

john mccain· iphone· ipad· manufacturing· foxconn

1:14:17 No weirder than the right-wingers who want to ban gay marriage and put it in the Constitution. No, of course not! They're all nuts! They're all nuts. John McCain has great, a lot of people sent me this of course. He's talking about our great manufacturing here in these United States of Gitmo. I would also point out that if you'd emptied that house there, if you'd left a computer there or an iPad or an iPhone, those are built in the United States of America. Yeah, okay John. What? Yeah. What? the i was a good plan is is it from that i was not a president's but i've had is that bill right here in these united states of america john is so you know you want to what is the foxconn factory in china the united states of america's is that again is make sure we heard it right i would also point out that uh... if you'd empty that house there if you'd left a computer there or an ipad or an iphone those those who built in the united states from as right bill right here

1:15:18 What computer is built in the United States of America nowadays? The one that you build in your house. Yeah, the one I built from Chinese parts. Yeah, it's assembled in the United... I mean, the iPhones are assembled in Cupertino, which I think means they put the sticker on it. Yeah, they don't do much. No. It's not like somebody's got a screwdriver. Unbelievable. Yeah, McCain is... he was almost president. Whew! Boy. Yeah, we missed him. We dodged a bullet with that guy. We dodged the bullet, didn't we? uh... hey uh... and just for the good stuff but reminds you george w uh... h w bush when he's finally be quit the release out of his house different the presidency and then he goes in the goes to a grocery store he's he's completely befuddled by the uh... barcode reading system yeah well i'll allow this company's high-tech so i might my friend in your sauce the ghouls me

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Patent System Reform and Alan Greenspan 9/11 Anecdote

White House economist Austan Goolsbee proposes reforms to the patent system, including expedited processing for higher fees. During a National Association of Business Economics meeting, a speaker tells a story about Alan Greenspan's videotaped calls for better economic data being destroyed in the September 11 attacks. The hosts find the audience's laughter at the anecdote suspicious.

austan goolsbee· patent reform· alan greenspan· 9/11· economic data

1:16:12 And there's something up with the patent system by the way, because he did a whiteboard talking about how we're going to reform the patent system, i.e. you can just like Homeland Security if you want a visa, if you're a stupid slave you pay $300, if you want, if you're guaranteed to want your visa you pay an additional $1,000 for a total of $1,300. I know because someone I know has gone through this twice now and it's like you get it. It's like oh here it is, stamp. for an extra thousand bucks. So the patent system now, they're going to guarantee that within 12 months you have your patent on your bogus claim. Of course there'll be an extra fee for that. But this is not the clip that I have. This is a clip from Austin just to give you an idea of this jabroni. And by the way, the Supreme Court is today ruling on the possibility of

1:17:04 uh... copyright works out of copyright bringing them back into copyright this is another genius genius things all those gutenberg books will be owned by disney trust me so ghouls be that the national association of business economists i think it's made that is what it's called a business executives uh... made made me a sense that sounds in my name but i think it's what you hear he says something So what they're talking about is economic data because of course the economic data that we get is just whatever the jabroni J there at the White House says, oh jobs, we created more jobs, we saved, we created, we did whatever. They just, you know, unemployment nine percent, oh it's all, you know, who knows? They cook it up, they just make it up, they calculate it differently every single time. There's always different formulas. So NABE

1:18:02 Well I guess there are a bunch of good guys who actually just say, hey what is the actual economic data? And their one mantra is better economic data. Ed Laud, listen to this. Nabe, for everything you do, for six years I was on the Census Advisory Commission and Nabe and the Census Advisory Commission are basically the only two bodies in the United States strongly and totally voting issue is quality of our economic data and I remember now listen to this story so this is what they're about it was like that's right as we just want a douchebag up there we want quality of economic data that the September 11 September 11 2001 the name meeting was in New York and Alan Greenspan at that meeting filmed a series of videotapes

1:18:54 calling for improvement of the economic data that they were destroyed in the September 11th attack. But, wow! He's laughing, the crowd is laughing, that the tapes of Greenspan calling for better economic data were destroyed in the 9-11 attack? What's so funny about that? And where was this meeting held? and why is it funny? Yeah, I'm wondering. There's something very foolish about... Listen to that again. That meeting filmed a series of videotapes calling for improvement of the economic data and that they needed to be funded. They were destroyed in the September 11th attack. Hey John! Right?

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Listener Donations and the Noodle Dictatorship Clip

A series of donations are acknowledged, including a significant contribution from a listener in Papua New Guinea. The hosts replay a viral clip of a disgruntled employee at a "Noodles" restaurant who describes the workplace as a "dictatorship" because he has to arrive on time and follow recipes. Sir Chris, a Dutch listener, provides a proverb about being "hoisted over the horse" into knighthood.

perth· papua new guinea· noodles restaurant· knighthood· dutch proverb

1:19:41 Yeah, what a riot! All right, we have a bunch of donors this week that we want to thank. And many of them are from out of the country, including Damien Taman, who comes in at $125 from Perth, the place I've always wanted to see. It's beautiful there. It is luscious. It is green. And it is one of the places Miss Mickey and I are considering moving to. I've heard nothing but good things about Perth. But I guess it's very easy to connect to Asia from Perth, because it's on that

1:20:27 left coast it's beautiful it's yeah i was just agreeing and nice damien says the ride been a five dollar a month subscriber sometime i feel necessary make more significant contributions as you show is get me sane barely while working over here in crazy pop how new guinea poplar poplar new guinea poplar new guinea poplar political place i suppose your constant insights in media assassination makes me realize that even a small fraction what you talk about is it if it's true we are all truly screwed and i think that's the way you can sell our showed other people hate if only one percent of what these guys is he's true you're screwed he needs it in the morning to his amazing girlfriend jane

1:21:12 which means they probably something goes on in the morning doing it in the morning that's right and of course we did mention uh... yon per seals uh... hamburg deutschlands a hundred eleven dollar eleven cents and i don't get thomas nussbaum sir thomas i'm sorry virginia beach number three for a nap called to become a day my didn't receive the shills night letter ring sizes eleven for uh... thomas nussbaum sir thomas nussbaum size eleven that's a big finger is not think i don't know i don't know the sizes are Vernon white but it's good to have a size 11 after giving a hundred eleven dollars and eleven cents because 11 11 11 is coming up Yep, that's right. How about that? Vernon white a black knight Vernon white that is I'm adding a hundred eleven dollars eleven cents to get karma missed on 284 to help my job search since I've been out of work since June of 2009 Wow. All right. Let me give some of that to him right now. Then here you go, buddy. You've got karma

1:22:09 He lives in Pearland, or Pearland, I'm sorry, Pearland, Texas, he wants to correct. I think I said Pearland or something like that. Craig Peters in Hatboro, Pennsylvania, $99.99. Niner, niner, niner, niner! I have become an executive producer. I have an executive producer check coming your way soon, but in the meantime I was compelled to donate ASAP after listening to episode 284 of this Quad Niner. Let's hear it, Adam, you already did it. It's for the noodle douchebag clip in the discussion that followed. Oh, a lot of people commented on that. That was the kid who was like, hey man, we have to show up to work at a certain time and make the noodles a certain way, man, that's just not okay. Should we play that again? Yeah, get it, go get it. I love that clip. It was just hilarious. It was a throwaway clip which made it even more interesting.

1:23:01 uh... i have it but you're getting a read off that what we're going is also got uh... the gimme the owner have a chair i have a here dot com and wag the dog i have here we go this guy to find out classes that are just a plain fact in society you don't work for someone else you work for yourself most people for someone else in a way that they are You don't really get to decide your work. For example, I work at Noodle's, a restaurant, and basically it's a dictatorship there. We're told exactly how we're going to cook it, what time we're going to get there, and basically if they don't like what they're doing, they try to tell us what to do. If we don't listen, they get rid of us. That's so horrible! They tell us what time to get there! And how to make the noodles! It's a dictatorship! I tell you, Noodle's is a dictatorship!

1:23:50 Hold on, it should be like this. UK, small token from a long time listener, first time donor, please shout out to at lefod, L-E-F-O-D. I know he's listening from his bunker in France. Right on. I don't know if we're supposed to shout out he's a douchebag or what? Well, why don't we try this? There you go. A little louder. You're, you're, you're, got it. Fine for me.

1:24:33 Paul Elvis in Toronto, Ontario working my way to knighthood next show Jill donate amount based on how many listeners go to crackpot command calm or Www buzzkill bunker calm and sign up as a website member. Ooh Okay, we'll go. We'll see that. Yeah, I'm going to be adding a so Eric the shill get those robots up we'll see what it was what's going on but robots we got robots on the show the air robots are cool i'm going to be adding a section where users can plan no agenda meetup soon that's a good idea and also they miss the no agenda p r links please let them know they can can contact me i'll be glad to add it to the crackpot command sixty six dollars and sixty six cents william hamlin national tennessee sixty dollars of will andrews sawyer vancouver bc fifty david millbrook uh... ilan aberdeenshire

1:25:21 UK $50 John Turata another $50 from Pasadena California and here we go Chris Krieland, Sir Chris. Ich bin niet over het parade getild. Ik zit op het parade als ridder. Not bad John. Getting better? So this is a throwback to this wonderful Dutch proverb Which is being over het paard getilt, i.e. you were boosted up so high onto the horse that you fell off on the other side. What John meant to say was, ik ben niet over het paard getilt, ik zit op het paard als ridder. So I have not been hoisted over the horse, I'm on the horse as a knight.

1:26:06 I thank you Chris. He's already a knight. Sir Chris. We have Matthew Belmar from Wolcott, Connecticut. Last time I donated in late summer 2009 you pronounced both my last name and my town wrong. bell marla job journal good job bell that you're a like him and mayor bell mayor like a female or so gay bell mayor and wall caught like wool cloths as wool Alright, so I'll show you some you can use some karma. He needs it. Okay coming at you my friend. You've got karma Is a classic donor he doesn't he's a student and he can give us $50 I don't see why other people can't help us out really finally Tristan land and sir Tristan from from my favorite place That's where I want to move I want to move to Wagga Wagga I would love them with CLEC Wagga Wagga and

1:27:08 uh... if it is and interest in wilson kerrigan in padbury westerns australia we have a lot of losses on that today's uh... donor list that's not that's because chelsea lately is doing a show from there this week yeah i'd love that show that is a good show so i love the australians i love them i love them and we gotta go we gotta go to john were crazy we don't go to australia adds a long haul and uh... so we anyway we have a couple other miscellaneous get james williams some karma looks like he's going to be able to get it you've got karma and we have a chicago police dot net chicago cops dot com both linking to no agenda show and i think all the donors you know matter how much they gave for the helping us out for this show and that's our and hit it

1:27:57 Devorak.org slash N A. And you'll find links on the No Agenda Show.com also at the No Agenda Nation.com slash donate or slash N A but you'll I think it's on the home page too. I'm reading this book called Moonwalking with Shakespeare the Art and Science of Remembering About halfway through it, but already it's like oh my god. You forgot what page you're on It's very interesting the guy who wrote it was a journalist who was sent I think for slate to cover One of these memory competitions and he winds up in the finals of the memory competition because he figures out how to do it and

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Memory Palaces and Moonwalking with Einstein

The book "Moonwalking with Einstein" by Joshua Foer is discussed, focusing on the technique of "memory palaces" for data retention. One host recalls using similar mnemonic techniques while working as a receiving clerk for International Harvester to remember long part numbers. The discussion highlights how these ancient techniques are still used in modern memory competitions.

moonwalking with einstein· memory palace· joshua foer· international harvester

1:27:08 uh... if it is and interest in wilson kerrigan in padbury westerns australia we have a lot of losses on that today's uh... donor list that's not that's because chelsea lately is doing a show from there this week yeah i'd love that show that is a good show so i love the australians i love them i love them and we gotta go we gotta go to john were crazy we don't go to australia adds a long haul and uh... so we anyway we have a couple other miscellaneous get james williams some karma looks like he's going to be able to get it you've got karma and we have a chicago police dot net chicago cops dot com both linking to no agenda show and i think all the donors you know matter how much they gave for the helping us out for this show and that's our and hit it

1:27:57 Devorak.org slash N A. And you'll find links on the No Agenda Show.com also at the No Agenda Nation.com slash donate or slash N A but you'll I think it's on the home page too. I'm reading this book called Moonwalking with Shakespeare the Art and Science of Remembering About halfway through it, but already it's like oh my god. You forgot what page you're on It's very interesting the guy who wrote it was a journalist who was sent I think for slate to cover One of these memory competitions and he winds up in the finals of the memory competition because he figures out how to do it and

1:28:36 and uh... and as a and but it's not really how to book on how to do it although the the trick is in there and i've practice this and i'm going to be doing it's amazingly fun when you know let me stay a little weird and i mean i used to have a good better memory that says i can remember met damon's name but uh... when i was it was better three years ago john i think that it's it's a matter of practice because i recall when i was a uh... receiving clerk for international harvester uh... there were these long numbers you have to remember you didn't have to remember but if you didn't remember and you were you know you're gonna spend a lot of time like looking back it is so easy once you know the concept of memory palaces it is so easy uh... to do this than it's just practice but you know there's a lot of things that are that are harder but uh... he does go very deep into the whole idea of how jingles were for a dot org slash and and that these are not a reasonable

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

Amazon Associates Kindle Linking Restrictions

A frustration is shared regarding the Amazon Associates affiliate program, which reportedly does not allow direct linking to Kindle ebooks for commissions. This restriction is contrasted with the ability to link to physical books. The hosts suggest this is a control tactic by Amazon to limit the earnings of independent reviewers and influencers.

amazon· kindle· affiliate marketing· big app show· ebooks

1:29:32 You cannot actually erase that from your memory. Yeah, well that one's... devoreact.org slash n-a. That one, every once in a while I start thinking about it. I can't get it out of my brain. Let's do our birthday call out for Jan. Well, really big list today. Yung Perseal, who of course is one of our donors, no longer a boner, celebrating his birthday today. Yung, we wish you a very happy birthday from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show, Adam and John, and of course all the producers out there in Gitmo Nation. Okay. Yeah. So I was a little bummed out because, more bummed out,

1:30:17 So I thought, I'll have a great idea. I'll start adding books to the Big App Show, which I've done, adding book reviews. And do you know that with the Amazon Associate Affiliate Program, you can't link directly to Kindle books? Oh, interesting. And like what the F is that? Where they have all the control. But I mean you can link to any hardcover or softcover or secondhand book, but you can't link directly to Kindle books. That was just ridiculous. Yeah, you know why? Because obviously you would be making too much money. Because most people that would be doing linking in the first place probably have a Kindle or some device that reads Kindle books. Right, well you can read it on your iPhone or Android. I know, it's pissing me off.

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Russian Police Rebranding and the Kissing Art Project

The Russian police force's rebranding to the abbreviation "OMOH" is mocked because it spells "HOMO" when viewed in a rearview mirror. A viral "street art" video is discussed where women run up to female Russian police officers and kiss them on the mouth. The hosts debate whether the footage is staged or a genuine protest against the new police image.

russia· police rebranding· omoh· street art· viral video

1:31:03 It's like the whole idea. Where's Barnes and Noble when you need them? These guys have never picked up the slack. It's horrible. Something very interesting, Russia and Gitmo Nation Vodka, or Borscht as you prefer, they've been rebranding their police force and what's funny is that uh... and of course i don't speak russian so i'm just going by what i'm uh... what i'm reading but the video this is fantastic so they've changed their name and uh... the abbreviation is o m o h of their of their police force o m o h which of course if you turn that around its homo

1:31:55 And so there's this squad now, these girls, and the YouTube video is fantastic. So when you're driving down the road and you look in your rear view mirror you see a homo. That's right, homo, homo, stop. So it's homo, but they're really, it's the new friendlier police force. And because of this, because it's such a joke, There are girls now going up to, thank you darling, going up to the Russian, the female Russian police officers and kissing them on the mouth like tongue. and the whole video is just because it is the whole video uh... and that they're calling an art project project yeah i call it fake no no no no no no this is not fake dude hold on a second you should you should really see this dude you should really see this this is it's phenomenal that it's the calling it street art but this is video after video of these girls uh... running up to these these female cops and just like tongue kissing him and it's it's hot it's totally great

1:32:59 and i think uh... yes in the link uh... on the second it's funny when i'm trying to move the cursor of my mac that i'm running show off of trying to i'm trying to work uh... to put into my laptop screen of course it doesn't actually go that far almost like a you what you will love this when you see it on street art of the day also pasted into the chat room i think the human resources will appreciate it Try that. I'm gonna paste this into the chat room so we all can enjoy this. This is a moment, everyone together now, and they're just doing it all everywhere. And the Russian cops, these women, they're hot! Oh, I see. You're probably right. Because the Russian cops are pissed. Yeah. So, Omo. Omo.

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Charlie Sheen Tiger Blood and Pre-Alt Medication Theory

A theory from a medical "liaison" suggests Charlie Sheen's erratic behavior may be caused by a drug called Pre-Alt (Ziconotide). The medication, derived from the toxin of a cone snail, is a powerful non-narcotic painkiller with side effects that include hallucinations and bipolar symptoms. The hosts speculate this is the "tiger blood" Sheen frequently references in his public rants.

charlie sheen· pre-alt· ziconotide· tiger blood· elan corporation

1:34:01 There's one girl decided to give her the kiss back. Yeah, I know. It's a beautiful thing. Russia is becoming also a possible destination for living now. How about Hawaii, John? What do you know about Hawaii? We used to go to Hawaii once or twice a year. Because I'm looking at real estate prices. For what I'm paying here, I can have like five bedrooms, 15 acres on the beach. Well it depends on what island you're talking about. Who cares? Who cares? As long as there's internet. What makes a difference is boring on some of those islands. I don't need excitement. I need internet. Yeah you do. I need internet. I need internet. That's all. That's all I need. Hi Adam, big fan. Whoa, she really planted one. Yeah, that's not fake John. That's real. Admit it. Yeah, no this doesn't look fake. Hi Adam, big fan. It's like you got taxed as one.

1:34:52 It's hot it's hot isn't it and they're like whoa what's going on? I love it nothing like lesbian milf cops This is Russia way to go. Hey comrades loving it. It's very funny. I have to blog this Hi, Adam big fan of the show I want to let you know oh hold on I actually should play this for a second and now back to real news big fan of the show One let you know we got a tip. This is for our medical producers who shall go unnamed As he calls himself my liaison in the belly of the beast one let you know we got a tip regarding a medication called zircono Tide Trade name Priya pre alt the tipster alleges Charlie Sheen has been taking the stuff and this is what's driving him crazy. I

1:35:42 Apparently the stuff is a lot more powerful than morphine has some gnarly side effects which include like bipolar behavior Have you heard of this pre-alt stuff? No, we don't have it. I never hear of a drug unless it's been advertised heavily on television. Well, this is, if you go to drugs.com, Pre-Alt is a non-narcotic pain reliever that works by blocking pain signals from the nerves to the brain used to treat severe chronic pain in people who cannot use or do not respond to standard pain relieving medications. Zyconide, zyconitide, is derived from the toxin of the cone snail species Conus magus. Scientists have been intrigued by the effects of the thousands of chemicals in marine snail toxins. Since the initial investigations, that's probably what he's drinking, he keeps saying he's drinking some weird stuff. Yeah, that's tiger blood.

1:36:41 This is tiger blood. It's got to be this stuff. The effects of these toxins from his childhood in the Philippines, some scientist was fascinated by this stuff. Zirconitide was discovered in the early 1980s by the University of Utah research scientist Michael McIntosh when he was barely out of high school and working with this guy Oliveira. Zaconotide was developed into an artificially manufactured drug by Elon Corporation. It was approved for sale under the name Pre-Alt by the US FDA in 2004. Isn't it a beautiful thing? It's always something.

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

Eric Schmidt and the US Secretary of Commerce Rumors

With Commerce Secretary Gary Locke being appointed as the U.S. Ambassador to China, rumors circulate that former Google CEO Eric Schmidt is in line for the cabinet position. The hosts argue that Schmidt's background in data and intelligence makes him a candidate for higher-level security roles, viewing the Commerce post as a stepping stone into the federal "mill."

eric schmidt· gary locke· google· secretary of commerce· china ambassador

1:37:17 uh... head breaking news in other words is basically says basically uh... talks and that's the issues that keep alive by killing their prey and now of course it being in the hollywood uh... denizen you we we take it breaking news breaking news breaking news john breaking news coming through the knowledge of network no dinner news network uh... dot com Breaking news we know that the Chinese spy Gary Locke is now being sent over to China to become ambassador He's being retired Right you read about this didn't you?

1:37:53 Yeah, I have actually. So he is the Commerce Secretary. He's of Chinese descent and he's done enough spying now so he's taking a bag full of secrets over there and he's become ambassador. Breaking news according to Bloomberg, who is in line to be the next US Secretary of Commerce? Bloomberg? Eric Schmidt? Oh, well we knew they were going to put him somewhere. Former CEO of Google. Well we predicted of course that he was going to end up running the intelligence agency. Well is there any difference if you're running commerce? I think commerce is pretty weak.

1:38:29 It's a gig though. Yeah, it's a gig once he's in once you're into that, you know, it's like a mill you yeah once you're in then they just start bouncing you around because you're now an expert yep and so then you'll be bounced from here to there and the next thing you know he'll be ahead of the CIA the NSA or that or the or the guy in the middle that new guy which is what he should be doing yeah from I don't see that Eric she is science officer for sun microsystems and cdl at novell and and cdl google a search engine company it should be the head of commerce can't you find a professor or somebody has just a start well it's just a start is just a start but he said they gotta get a man to get a man move up that's the most outsmarting song

CHAPTER 27 / 36 Discussion

Redondo Beach Fish Kill and Earthquake Predictions

Millions of dead sardines surfaced in Redondo Beach, California, which local officials attribute to oxygen depletion from algae. The hosts propose alternative theories, including methane leaks from underground fissures or HAARP activity. They suggest the event is a precursor to a major earthquake in Southern California, citing similar animal behavior before the New Zealand quake.

redondo beach· sardines· earthquake· haarp· methane

1:39:15 So we had a little bit of biodiversity in our own backyard this week, Redondo Beach, California, where millions of sardines died and floated to the surface. Do you have a theory on this? Because I got one. I'm sure mine won't be as entertaining. Well then you go first. I would assume uh... well as a couple possibly i'll give you a little crack crackpot when they've been finding a lot of this marine life has been uh... huge kill offs in dead zones and all the rest of it from underground volcanoes that have been leaking out lots of uh... methane and other gases and is quite possible that crack is a bit

1:39:57 formed underneath that area just off side the shell outside the shelf there in southern california which is a precursor to a massive earthquake which is a not exactly you know now you know it's so funny you say that because that this is absolutely i believe we've got the big one coming in california and uh... just like in new zealand what we have uh... just days before the big one we had whales beaching themselves but this is it it's coming we've got you know we've got their bottles of water the big ones gonna hit california and you're gonna laugh at me of course we had uh... this is hard by the way this is not any biodiversity tase harp it tuning it up and uh... they misfire a hold on a second a lot of the hit japan with the seven billion i'd get keep notes now february twenty fourth at nine fifteen on this show you said no quake in southern california no way changed change the story i'm allowed

1:40:54 Hey, if the president can keep Gitmo open, I can change my earthquake machine story. And it's a moving target, but I give it one week, one week. One week? One week. Big one hitting in one week. What was the lag time between the whales? Couple days. Alright, well I've argued buckle down. I would wear a seatbelt. I wish I could have one of those leashes you put on your kids. Of course the Los Angeles Times says well this is because there's no oxygen because of an explosive growth of algae and that's because of global warming. Thank you. Thank you very much. Absolutely. You can make anything, the stock market crash can be blamed on global warming. Yeah well it will be. If only we had bought some more carbon credits. So I've been following these water meters and this is

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Atlanta Smart Water Meter Billing Scandal

Residents in Atlanta and other U.S. cities report astronomical water bills, some exceeding $10,000, following the installation of "smart" meters. Despite city inspectors finding no leaks, residents are held responsible for the charges. The hosts characterize the smart meter rollout as a coordinated scam by private companies to overcharge consumers through automated collection systems.

atlanta· smart meters· water bills· deregulation· utility fraud

1:41:50 Unbelievable story. I'll just play the first minute or so of this clip of These residents in I forget where it is now. Let me see. Well, I'll play the clip and I'll remember They have their smart meters installed. We're mad! Atlanta residents... Atlanta, we're mad! ...clearly have had enough. For you to expect us to think that 4 million gallons of water is leaking somewhere on our property and not showing up is absolutely mind-blowing. We were taking a shower every day, now we're skipping sometimes because we're trying to save the water.

1:42:27 For more than three years, Atlanta, a city of more than a half million residents, has been bombarded with complaints of outrageous water bills. Now remember, I told you that I was going nuts over the water bills here. Like, I'm paying like five, six hundred dollars a month in water. It's Mickey and I. You know, it makes no sense. No. Similar complaints are popping up around the country in places like Cleveland, Charlotte, Tampa and California. Brockton, Massachusetts. But the Waterbill war is nothing like in Atlanta. Just ask Wilda Cobb. I feel like I'm going crazy. Cobb lives by herself in this 1800 square foot home.

1:43:15 Her water bill averages $30 to $40 a month until it began going up more than $1,200 in November. What happened before this water bill went up, John? What do you think happened? Hello? No, no, tell me Adam! What are you doing? What, are you pooping? No, I had to get a glass of water. Oh jeez. Hey, that's a very expensive thing you're doing there. Yeah, this glass of water now cost me $50. What do you think happened? Well, well, what do you think happened? Well, let's listen. December bill, nearly $6,900. This is great! Cobb now owes more than $10,000. And city inspectors,

1:44:00 found no leaks. For me to have to remember when they were... I don't want to give it away. Take the time to do this. And then there's Debbie Scarborough. Her water bill shot up more than $3,000 after two months of huge spikes last summer. This is another bill, another month. She even hired two plumbers to prove there was no leak. Five years ago, the city hired a company to replace its aging water meters with automatic meter reading devices. Ah, there you go. It's the smart meters. And if you'll recall, the main selling point of the smart meters was to be able to detect leakage. So what they're doing now

1:44:46 is they are raping us and I'm sure that, this only really happened this morning that I found all this, I'm sure these smart meter companies are getting a piece of the back end but this is a 10 minute report of nothing but people who live in modest homes with thousands of dollars of water bills and then it's like they have no leaks, no nothing, no you're just using too much water slave. and it's rampant and it's all these smart meters. Yeah, I think it's what's happening with electricity, all these smart meters are being invested in electricity bills too. We've had that locally. In fact, my bill went way up for some unknown reason. And you just, well no, the reason is known, you just had a smart meter installed. Remember? You told me that. You had a smart meter installed, they did it on the outside, you had nothing to do with it, and now all of a sudden your electricity bill skyrockets because it's theft. They're stealing from you. Yeah. I'm actually getting very angry because

1:45:44 When you, when you, I mean our bills, it's out of control. It's, and we have like soft lighting, you know, with a transformer. We don't even have, we don't even have light bulbs. And the water, it's just off, off the chart. So they're installing these smart meters and I think that the companies, you see, they go in, they interview one of these guys, total jabroni douchebag. I think they're on the back end. I think they get a piece of the back end because they also do collections, remember? They do collections, they don't just measure it with Wi-Fi, they drive by and they collect all the data wirelessly, but they do the collections as well. So they're on the back end of this because that's what you get paid for, you get a percentage of collections. They're just jacking up everybody's rates.

1:46:30 And so what? Well, it sounds like an out and out scam. And of course, we don't have any public utilities commissions anymore with any balls or any power. Nope. Because it's all been taken away from him during the deregulation period where we don't need actually any regulation whatsoever. And so this is the this is the direct result for all you out there. And I know there's a bunch that listen to the show who are deregulation absolutists. Oh, you don't need regulations. The free market will take care of it. This is what you get. Corruption. The free market works great when it's not corrupt. So now we're gonna have to go, who do you sue? Who do you sue? You have to take him to small claims court or something. I don't know what you're gonna do. It's frightening. Somebody will come up with a model to sue them to get their money back and hopefully they'll find a judge who's not a, you know, just some dumb jerk-off that's sitting there doing nothing.

1:47:21 you know like i think they're all you know masturbate underneath his robes they're all in on this this is that this is the take down of the people they're all in on it they are all in on it i gotta go look at my water bill and i'm gonna freak out i know cuz i know the water bill is going to be like seven eight hundred dollars a month and we don't give me what i cook a little bit we take showers we don't think the one way to go about this if it's possible is it's is to uh... If you could re-meter your meters, in other words, turn off the thing and then put another meter on. Yeah, but meanwhile they've got the ultimate control over you because they can shut it off remotely, flick of the switch.

1:48:04 Not all of them are two-way yet, but they have that capability easily upgradable. No, no, no. This is a huge scam and a lot of people it's going slowly. It's like those the Chinese and Russian credit card dudes. What they do is they steal your card, but they don't charge like $1,000. You'll see a charge show up for $2.00 for the It'll be some kind of fee and they do this with a million people and they got you know two million dollars a month just from one little scammage. Go ahead I've seen it. I've seen it on my credit card and I refuse payment on it and but they're getting greedy now. It's like stupid slaves. They'll just take your money. You don't want to pay your water bill? Well it's good you're gonna get really thirsty. You don't like electricity? Well just gonna turn it off.

1:48:52 And all the whole cover is biodiversity and global warming and carbon and a bad Well, how's this gonna work with your your battery car douchebags? now it's it's Scares the bejesus scares the bejesus out of me, and we've got to do something about it. Yeah well they screwed up with that woman is giving her a $6,000 bill and Yeah, no they went a little too far on that one. Yeah, but of course they'll come up with some bogus. Oh, it was a mistake It was a faulty meter. It won't happen again. We'll fix it. Don't worry about it But meanwhile, so you you just said it yourself your electricity went up for some reason. Have you changed your habits? Not really. How much is like $10 $20 $100 no doubled

1:49:43 And what do you pay a month if you don't mind me asking? I pay, well, in this last bill that jerked up out of the blue went to a thousand dollars. What?! You're one dude in the house! Yeah. What are you running? You running something special in the basement? If I was growing pot at least it would make some excuse. You might have to. I might have to if we don't get more donations. This is crazy man. Yeah, we're gonna, we're working on it. So I think this is something... I don't know, we have to find some mechanism to sue him because I know it's bogus. This is something Mimi should sink her teeth into because she's, she notices this stuff. I'm sure she said, John what are you doing? I'm sorry she doesn't talk like that of course. But John what are you doing? What are you using double electricity? You got like hookers in there when I'm not around? What are you doing? You got like a disco ball and like strobe lights? What are you doing John?

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Janet Napolitano on Terrorism and Viper Teams

DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano appears on Mike Huckabee's show to discuss evolving terrorist threats and "multiple layers" of security. The hosts criticize the TSA's "Viper Teams" for conducting random screenings at Amtrak stations and on boarded aircraft in Seattle. They argue these tactics are a waste of resources and represent the formation of a "secret police" in the United States.

janet napolitano· mike huckabee· tsa· viper teams· amtrak

1:50:34 so play a clip so i go hang up this phone somebody's calling worklo ok i'll play a clip of uh... go ahead uh... this is a lucy napolitano on uh... uh... on and it was buddy buddy with uh... and who's the do is the dude as on cnn was his name again john you don't give a shit what's the uh... what's the the guys who run for president brownie now not mit romney the other guy huckabee Oh that guy's not running for any... Hey by the way I just picked up the phone and it was a recording that says we apologize we reached your number in error. That's good. What was it you think? The water company. Pay up slave. So Lucy is on the Huckabee show and they're good buddies and

1:51:31 And he, this is an amazing little interview. And by the way, wow, she could be a Russian cop. She talks about using the word terror and Huckabee says, you know, hey, should we really be using this word all the time? In the interest of full disclosure, you and I have been long-time friends from being governors during the same time and sharing the podium at the National Governors Association. But I'm going to get right to the point. Is there a reluctance on the part of this administration to use the term terrorism or jihadism? No. No. No. There's no... We like to call it terrorism.

1:52:09 I use it all the time. I say, honey, terrorist, hey baby, terrorist. Oh, terrorist. She wakes up in the morning and goes, oh, what terrorist is it? And in fact, in testifying before the Congress just a few weeks ago, I reminded the Congress and the American public that The threats to the United States, they've evolved over time. We're not seeing the same kind of plots we saw pre 9-11. You know, massive international infiltrations of the United States to weaponize airplanes. John, massive infiltrations. Are you still on the phone? Massive infiltrations? No, I'm not on the phone. Massive infiltrations weaponizing planes.

1:52:49 weaponizing well when was this well how come this hasn't been reported well over time we're not seeing the same kind of plots we saw pre 9-11 you know massive international infiltrations of the United States to weaponize airplanes fly them into buildings but we're seeing lots of other things yeah like weaponizing planes flying into buildings massive infiltration when was this this interview No, when was this taking place, this massive infiltration, the weaponization? As we speak, that's why she's reminding you, terror is real. Smaller things, individual things, one or two people perhaps acting together, makes it a lot more difficult for law enforcement to detect, to prevent, and that's why we're asking people when they see something to say something. Hold on a second, we have to, where's my jingle? Here we go. If you see something

1:53:42 That's why we're really working with our governors, our mayors to really share information about what the terrorist threat is to our own country. When PJ Crowley mentioned that we weren't sure what it was. what he did crowley is the uh... spokes all four of hillary clinton was at that time we know this guy had screamed out you know god is great in arabic uh... there was clear indications from his face book page in his communications that he had been consulting with jihadist so is it fair to say the biggest threat we have in terms of uh... national security not in the in the specific sense

1:54:19 is that threat from a rat is honest a raps a raps i call me raps well uh... i will say that certainly what we have seen in in the law and sort of job as time it because you talk to your cheese certainly what i've seen is a muslims and islamists last several years uh... is a growth of uh... al-qaeda now kyle related groups around the world a q a p al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula as it's a rules of the times and actually a q a p a j w j i q a pair We've seen Al Qaeda in the Maghreb for example. Al Qaeda in the Maghreb. Where's the Maghreb? Maghreb? I think it's Morocco, isn't it?

1:55:00 I don't know what she's talking about. And we see with the internet as an accelerant. An accelerant! Oh, Johnny! Nice term from CSI. Yes, accelerant is the shit that you throw on the fire to make it burn faster. Accelerant. The internet's an accelerant. We gotta shut it down! The connection between groups abroad and individuals in the United States. So it's fair to say that a small... Al-Qaeda on MacRib. We got terrorists at McDonald's, John. It's the Al-Qaeda and MacRib. A small percentage or a small number of individuals who are Muslim and acting in a misguided name of Muslim. We call them Islamists. Let's take note of that. Can you write that in your book?

1:55:46 I'm writing it down. We call them Islamists. Have plotted or planned and they've been intercepted. Zazi, Faisal Shahzad to give you two examples. But there are others as well. So we don't want to make the terrorism aperture too narrow. It's not just about... The terrorism aperture. Oh, it's nice. We've got to open that hole. She's talking about a sphincter. Why don't you just say it? Just like terrorism sphincter. Alright, but where is this going? Where is it going? It's going to this. It's going to this next question where he says, hey, hold on a second. You and your Department of Homeland Security, you know, a guy got through with box cutters.

1:56:25 How would you... Yeah, that's play... which of course encourages them to take further action. No, no, no. Huckabee plays right into their hands. She does it even better. First of all, when you get to the check, the actual checkpoint at the airport, there are multiple... Multiple layers. multiple layers in the center of security layers of uh... activities that have already been uh... undertaken uh... in our effort to make sure that were focused on on the right uh... place we still get a box cutter through is what happened last week that i think i was right and that and that then we go through that's why we have multiple layers of life as you always have to plan for human error when you think about the united states

1:57:06 yeah then what did he mention that it didn't work this multiple of course not of course not but she's like that's right that's why we have multiple layers yeah the stewardess saw it when it fell out of the guy's bag that's a layer it's a layer okay well here's what here's what we're kind of missing and I think this idiot Huckabee doesn't help things much no of course not TSA has recently and we both have this article has recently been kind of scolded and and the The Amtrak people are completely bent out of shape because the TSA decided, because they have this team called these Viper teams. Viper! Hold on a second, it's the Viper team coming to... Oh, where did it go? Oh no, it crashed. Well, this is not good. Hold on a second.

CHAPTER 30 / 36 Discussion

TSA Screenings at Bus Stations and Dubai Scanner Rejection

TSA Viper Teams have expanded their operations to Greyhound bus stations in Tampa, Florida, to search for smuggled cash and other contraband. Meanwhile, Dubai officials have rejected the installation of full-body scanners in their airports. The hosts highlight the irony of having to undergo invasive scans for domestic U.S. flights while international flights from the Middle East may not require them.

tsa· greyhound· tampa· dubai· full body scanners

1:57:48 So they came and they stopped the people leaving a train in Savannah, Georgia and wanded them and there's a video floating around about this showing a little nine-year-old getting wanded and they had some kids sitting down and they were wanding his feet. They had to stick his feet up when he was wearing socks and they're wanding the socks And so the Amtrak guy got bent out of shape and nobody can figure out why they're wanding and... checking and questioning all these people getting off of the train and by the way where's Obama with his oh you know the train the high-speed rail you won't need to take off your shoes are taking off their shoes getting off the train. It's worse than what he said wouldn't happen. Yeah it's worse and then meanwhile in Washington State they have a test program that's only being picked up by the by the Pacific Northwest newspapers actually only by the Seattle Times

1:58:42 where the TSA, the Viper teams have decided to, they've got a new one, they're gonna try it out. So they've been trying this out at the Seattle airport where they come on the plane. What after the plane is boarded this is documented after the plane is boarded the TSA comes on the plane eyeballs Everybody and then it has them take down their luggage from this to carry on and go through it. They start filtering through your Your luggage again, there's enough slaves. You see this badge this badge. I got this means I got power power over you So shut up Meanwhile there was an incident report last year where this kind of thing happened at the Greyhound bus station in Tampa, Florida where the Viper teams came out to check on the people getting on the bus just in case. That was because they might be smuggling money.

1:59:33 Remember that we played that clip. So these guys are completely out of control. They do they they're not doing there's a waste of the taxpayers money It's an insult to everybody and it's obviously there, you know It's a for the way I'm seeing is the formation the subtle formation of a secret police and a bunch of Gestapo It's not really it's not so subtle. It's not that so when they're coming on the plane now an eyeball and yo, let's take a look at this guy looks suspicious It's unbelievable. Of course Huckabee doesn't bring any of this stuff up, he just asks about the box cutters, implying that they're not doing a good enough job so they should maybe up the ante. Who's he kidding? What is he nuts? That whole thing was rigged? That was a bunch of bull crap? This has gone completely out of control and it's a shame that the public

2:00:23 is still putting up with it to such an extreme. I mean, still in India, they won't let you have full body scans. And the latest one, with the rejection of full body scanners is of all places, Dubai. They say, screw you, we're not gonna put these things in our airports. How's that gonna work? There was a, I don't know if I have it. So I have to go through a full body scanner to fly from San Francisco to Seattle, but I can fly from the Middle East to New York City without one? Yeah, what's your problem? Why you making waves, boy? You want change? You put it in the Constitution. We have power. It's in the Constitution. They can't do this. Yeah, well, show me. I'm, uh... I'm dismayed. But again, it's all this...

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Patent Expirations and Vaccine Profits

The pharmaceutical industry faces a "patent cliff" in 2011, with major drugs like Lipitor losing exclusivity, representing $50 billion in annual sales. The hosts suggest the industry is pivoting toward vaccines, which have less liability and higher profit margins. They also note recent multi-billion dollar acquisitions of biotech firms like Genentech and Genzyme as part of this market shift.

pfizer· lipitor· patents· vaccines· genentech

2:01:14 John, let's try and do a third show, seriously. Why? Because I think that there's enough to talk about and I think that the giving levels will increase enough to take up the slack. If not, we need to do more. We need to help people and fight back against this and we're just missing too much. We're not able to connect enough things on a weekly basis without that Tuesday show. I'm not able to connect all these things. There's no material between Sunday and Tuesday. That's the problem. You have one day, Monday. There is tons of material. Maybe it's too long. Maybe we have to change the whole schedule. It's too long between Sunday and Thursday. We're missing good stuff. Stuff that people need to know. What? Well, that you will go. What? All kinds of stuff. You're not on board with my program. I mean, of course. Okay, vaccines. Let me talk about vaccines for a second.

2:02:12 uh... i realize that by uh... you know i've mentioned many times how we went through all the reports of all the pharmaceutical companies and uh... that they're all like vaccines the big bonanza there's no regulation you're giving medicine to people who are sick the it's it's a great way to make money and that all the ceo's not subject any liability issue and of course if someone dies tough crap supreme court is ruled that tough What I neglected to remind everybody of is that all of these companies, see there's no new stuff coming out and

2:02:52 The patents are expiring, which of course is why they're now, you know, why Goolsbee is now, we'll do something with the patent process. You watch, you watch what they're going to do. Pfizer, who makes Lipitor. Now sales of Lipitor, we've discussed this before, the sales of Lipitor were larger than the entire music industry in 2009. This is the cholesterol drug. Right. Ten billion dollars a year. One drug. The patent runs out in November. You see the problem? This year alone... Yeah, so we got to rush a new patent law into effect so we can save these guys. I mean, if you got that kind of... if you get bringing in 10 billion a year for 20 years, you got plenty of money to pass around to get people to come on board. This year alone, because of patent expirations, the drug industry will lose control over more than 10 mega medicines whose combined annual sales are 50 billion dollars. 50 billion.

2:03:51 Lipitor being one of the big ones, there's a couple others we can talk about. So it's a hedge, so they've got it on two sides. They've got the vaccines, which of course are a bonanza. But that's tough because you've got idiots like Curry and Dvorak saying that it's a scam. But then, you know, we've got the all of a sudden, oh, we've got to do patents for innovation. Yeah, so we're overhauling the patent system and you watch it's going to, it's copyrights, the Supreme Court is, although it's not the same as a patent, the Supreme Court is talking about bringing stuff back in. So it's all set up in the next five years. Same with, what's the,

2:04:31 Eli Lilly's Alzheimer's drug. I mean all this stuff all these guys all this stuff is running out of patent. They have nothing new So the only thing that's new is uh... the vaccines and of course it could be working on some antibiotics they help people when you know since all these other antibiotics are stopping did not work in anymore because of that misuse you think they would develop some new drugs as opposed to these these kind of superficial drugs and by the way it would be a benefit to people who actually need to take a little bit or to get it for five bucks a month instead of the you know five hundred dollars whatever they're paying five hundred uh... should be in the constitution

2:05:10 Well, maybe it should. All I know is that the whole thing is just ridiculous that these drug companies are dropping the ball on antibiotics. Genentech, I think, came up with a new drug for lupus. Oh, really? So yeah, and that just got FDA approval. Lupus is a terrible thing to have. It's a horrible, horrible... I know someone who has it. It's a horrible disease. It's an immune deficiency. It ruins your immune system. So all these guys, you know that they bought up It was a Roche paid 46 billion dollars for genentech. There you go And so Sanofi Adventist paid 20 billion for Genzyme So there's a lot of moves going on here a lot of things taking place and guess what? It's meant to rip you off It's funny in the Gitmo nation lowlands. There was a huge traffic jam as reported Let me see. Was this Friday Wednesday, but yes a huge traffic jam and

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Glencore IPO and Mark Rich Pardon History

The upcoming IPO of Glencore, a massive commodities trading firm, is discussed in the context of its founder, Mark Rich. Rich was famously pardoned by President Bill Clinton in 2001 after fleeing the U.S. for tax evasion. The hosts predict Glencore could become a "trillion-dollar company" through its dominance in global oil and mining markets.

glencore· mark rich· bill clinton· oil trading· ipo

2:06:13 Because, you know there's a ring, the ring around the Amsterdam, around the city, it's called the A10. Huge traffic jam because they were vaccinating 11,500 children against HPV. and why the kid is a is there an h p v epidemic and well in the well you know it's uh... uh... fellatio there is there an epidemic of genital warthrobe cancer yeah we're all dying from throat cancer it's for the boys not to you know it's not just for the girls so yeah it's great uh... reminder programming note for those you who listen loyal each in no agenda stream dot com coming up right after the show the brand new uh...

2:07:04 crude oil show for Mr. Oil. A lot of people liken that program and rightly so because it's really awesome. From someone on the inside, you want all the tips? And of course, Glen, so the oil, what are we at now, John? $107, $110 a barrel? I can get you the exact price at the moment. So I think we're still going to try and and i know you disagree so it's okay but i think that they will try for the two hundred dollar number and all this is planned beautifully with uh... with glenn kors initial public offering and who have now just uh... uh... announced that it looks like they might be merging with strata uh... which is a uh... mining company uh... which would uh... value the company at a hundred billion dollars free i p o this could be the first trillion dollar company

2:07:58 and of course this was set up. Crude oil sitting at $102.90 down to $1.48. Yeah, just a temporary pullback. And of course this uh... I think it could be the first trillion dollar company and this of course is started by Mark Rich, the oil trader who was thrown in jail and President Bill Clinton pardoned him on his way out of office and he went to Zug, Switzerland and started this company and do not care about people. They just care about money. and uh... power to wish i could live in zoo which means train yes and uh... here's a very interesting one goals at fourteen twelve yeah well i don't wanna say i told you so down sixteen was very interesting the document that i had is all of a sudden uh... and been removed but there was an airworthiness directive this is very you always have to save page and i had i'd i have i'd save pays as but i don't have it here on this machine anyway

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

Airplane Bathroom Oxygen Removal and Puke Flight Anecdote

A new FAA airworthiness directive mandates the removal of chemical oxygen generators from airplane bathrooms due to security concerns about potential tampering. The hosts mock the decision, noting that it leaves passengers in the lavatory vulnerable during a decompression event. An anecdote is shared about a turbulent flight to Aspen where a stewardess allegedly slid down the aisle on vomit.

faa· oxygen generators· airworthiness directive· aspen· flight safety

2:09:02 If you are going to poop on an airplane, just try and hold it in. Seriously, don't poop, don't stay in the bathroom too long, and I will tell you why. An airworthiness directive has been issued, which AD as it's known, means you have to comply with this and you have to do it within a certain time frame. This is an emergency AD, airworthiness directive. I follow these being an aviator. Various transport category airplanes equipped with chemical oxygen generators have to be removed from the laboratory. So in other words, if you are in the bathroom and there is a sudden drop in cabin pressure, you will have no oxygen available to you in that area of the plane. The reason why is security reasons. Because of course someone could tamper with that and turn it into a bomb.

2:09:57 So now when it... Makes sense. Right. Yeah, makes total sense. So now when you're flying, if there's a loss in cabin pressure and you're in the bathroom, well kiss your ass goodbye because you're dying. Because unless you can really run back quickly and get yourself some oxygen. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Take out the oxygen in the bathroom because someone might try and blow up the plane with it. brother oh brother is right my friend even know there was a thing that flopped down in the bathroom yeah yeah yeah okay well how many times by the way you flown commercially a few times having it has occurred yeah how many times in your zero what just zero just zero

2:10:45 Zero. Never happened. You're telling me that in flying for 30 plus years you have never had an incident where you've needed the oxygen in the cabin? 40 plus years. I was flying when we had to wear suits and my sisters wore white gloves and hats. That's what flying used to do. So for 40 years you've never, and you fly a lot. At least for a while. I used to, yeah. And you've never had this happen? Never. Never. Have you? No, as a matter of fact, it's never happened to me and the funny thing is I don't know anyone who has ever has happened to. Oh, except one guy, take it back. There was this story, I'll tell it. And I took this flight, it was the flight from Denver to...

2:11:24 to uh... aspen and it's a miserable flight over the rockies and typically back in the day when you had to fly on some of these prop jet electros as you recall they were kind of uh... good sickening ride and uh... but this guy's flying in on he told the story after the fact on a smaller plane was a prop job going over the mountains up and down up and down up and down everyone was getting sick and throwing up to and the plane kinda went into kind of like uh... was just people were it was just a a a puke fest everybody was thrown up all over the place And apparently there was puke everywhere and it was all along the... it got in the aisles and the plane went into kind of a nosedive. And rolled down the aisle. The stewardess fell on her ass and slid on the puke all the way to the front of the plane. Sorry. And the oxygen mask came down. That's what I was told.

2:12:19 That's awesome. Great story. It's a visual thing. Uplifting story, John. Uplifting story. Some magic numbers for you before we get out of here. 33 high-ranking SEC workers had to be counseled or disciplined for watching porn at work. A Texas man sentenced this week in federal court to 33 years in prison for his part in a streeter child pornography ring that was broken up more than six years ago. and this has to be the most emailed one I received. I just got to open up the page here. As we look at the number of Kinect devices sold, it's not quite the right number but it's good enough. 133,333 units per day of the Kinect. That's the three cameras you now have in your home.

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Microsoft Kinect Surveillance and Television Tracking Apps

The high sales volume of Microsoft Kinect devices is viewed as a privacy risk, as the cameras can theoretically be accessed remotely to monitor households. New smartphone apps that function like "Shazam for television" are described as tools for data collection to serve targeted ads based on what a user is watching in real-time.

microsoft kinect· surveillance· shazam· targeted advertising· privacy

2:13:15 yeah the ones that can be accessed from uh... remotely and then they can today and look at everything in your house and they can do calculations on how much money you spend all the rest of it and what you're doing where you're moving you know i showed this app on the big action action i've recorded haven't shown it yet it's called uh... into into something free was called and it's an app that you uh... you to do turn it is like soundhound or shazam for television and you hold it up to the television with the sound on and then it recognizes what show you're watching and it goes ding and it shows how many other people are watching the same show. And why would you want such an app? I don't want the app, I'm just saying that this capability exists. Yeah, and that's what they do with these things. Well what they do is, you know, you've got your Google Voice thing, right, integrated into your browser which they can turn on remotely whenever they want

2:14:12 and it's innocuous right now but they turn it on and while you're surfing around with the television on they start showing you ads that relate to that. I guarantee you this is happening. Oh yeah, well that's the way, that's the future. Hey everybody! Hot Pocket! That's right, I'm getting me some Hot Pocket ads while watching Hot Pockets. Some foots in the news. Oh did we report on the foot from last week? I don't remember. Is this the Powell River? the one that came up in vancouver yeah though we didn't want uh... there were a couple of got the report on it came last week it was last show but you know what you know what's dot com uh... everything's been tracked to meticulously we are the only media outlet the tracks the foot in the oceans that are washing up on shore uh... west coast mostly there was one that uh... washed up and they said it was uh... it wasn't a human foot it was uh... like the foot of the sea lion i was a sea lion doing wearing a nike that's crazy it's uh...

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Vancouver Human Foot Discoveries and Military Exercises

The ongoing mystery of human feet washing up on the shores of British Columbia and Washington State is revisited. Simultaneously, a joint military and intelligence exercise called JISPIC is scheduled at Fort Leavenworth, involving U.S. and Canadian officers. The hosts express suspicion about the timing and nature of these "multinational operations."

vancouver· human feet· fort leavenworth· jispic· joint exercise

2:15:12 yes when another foot showed up in a tennis shoe the power of the power of her how riverbank and i was pointing out i think in the email went back and forth on this is that the the canadians they they're documenting the feet that wash up there but just like ten in your lesson ten miles south of them where they were where the feeder washing up in washington state on the same basic area they didn't need one of these two sizes today wait a minute this is total is a little more than we think we've only washed up six feet and uh... you know in the uh... it's puget sound and then within the canada canadians and we have about foots foot yeah well

2:15:55 Speaking of the Canadians, you know we're doing a joint exercise off the coast of Southern California. Huh? Exercise is down there. I don't want to say too much. Let me tell you exactly what it is. Hold on a second the Army no, it's Kansas City the army the CIA and the Canadians as you know we now have a deal where if there's an emergency then uh... here than the canadian uh... army can uh... come into our streets that there's no more which is a nice way to avoid uh... posse comment on this and uh... if this is like a spy operation you know you let the m i six by an american's and then we'll spy on the great for them army officials preparing to conduct what they say is a rare training event involving the u s military the c i a canadian officers and other government agencies

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

European Economic Unrest and Podcast Sign-off

Reports of economic instability in Europe include a 38% youth unemployment rate in Greece and large-scale pension protests in London. The hosts conclude the show by reiterating the "value for value" funding model and encouraging listeners to support the program. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off from their respective "Gitmo Nation" bunkers.

greece· unemployment· london protests· pensions· value for value

2:16:49 The Joint Intermediate Staff Planning Exercise, better known as JISPIC, will be held March 21st to 25th at Fort Leavenworth's Lewis and Clark Center, home of the Army Command and General Staff College, blah blah blah. It's a week-long event designed to encourage participants to confront the challenges and uncertainties of joint interagency and multinational operations. I'd say get ready for some false flag is what I'd say. But Kansas City, there's nothing going on there. what do you think that it better not be and uh... meanwhile get my nation east i was just talking to uh... my daughter who is coming back uh... like two weeks has been over in uh... in amsterdam and uh... in london and her friends are freaking out john dislike no work there's no jobs is nothing that everything sucks everything blows and people are starting to protest uh... there's a an outfit now uh...

2:17:50 uh... hundreds of council tax purposes like city tax council tax protesters storm courtroom an attempt to make citizens arrest of judge and that these guys have t-shirts uh... that say i'm not your slave i'm not your slave we are one i'm not your slave this is good is a good thing because you are of course slaves but there are a you know people can't pay the council tax uh... and their uh... their grab and judges now And apparently there's a huge strike planned. A million people. Schools, universities, courts, job centers, which are very busy these days, could all be shut down in June in response to their pensions going away. This is happening everywhere. Everywhere everyone's pensions are being... Of course there's no money anymore in the pensions. Even the CIA pension fund is broke. Did you know that? How can that be? I know, I know. They messed it up. Well, hey, agents are slaves too.

2:18:51 Let's be honest. And in Greece, new numbers, youth unemployment increased from 28.9% to 38%. Oh my god. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Anything good no, there's nothing good. This is depressing you want to do a third show you nuts I think well then we might find a shooting himself We might find some good stuff if we do a third show. No we the more work We do the worse it gets no no no there's got to be something's got to be some shimmering light Maybe not maybe Charlie Sheen is literally the only shining light that we have

2:19:30 I have to say, you know, I have to say he's become... I think that Dennis Miller, who was on the other day, has it right. Sheen is actually... is extremely entertaining. He's getting there. His show has gotten a lot better now that he ditched the whole crew idea. Yeah, and he just sits and rants. It's like a nutball. Gee, he might be a guest on this show. Well, we don't have guests. Yeah, that's true. We could... well, anyway. If you think that you could up your giving level and if we could do it, I'd be happy to hear from people. But we'd have to double. We'd have to double. It's quite good, occasional showing. We also have to do, we never have done the primer. Primer, yeah. I'm spent. I'm depleted. This human resource is empty. But thanks for listening everybody. Hope you had some enjoyment. Hope you will consider us with some value for value.

2:20:23 This is what we do so you don't have to. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning I am the lone wolf known as Adam Curry. And White Dog here from Northern Silicon Valley signing off. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday for early morning service. Stay tuned for Mr. Oil with crude oil right here on NO Agenda. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-L-E.