Episode 280 · Sunday, 20 February 2011

Husslin' for Humanity

A subway theft in Spain reveals diplomatic failures while corporate titans and the White House forge a controversial new alliance to out-hustle the global economy.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 280

About this episode

John C. Dvorak reports a targeted pickpocketing incident in the Madrid subway involving an elderly accomplice, resulting in the loss of his U.S. passport and credit cards. The theft exposed significant service failures at the U.S. Embassy in Spain and Delta Airlines, both of which remained unresponsive during the President's Day holiday. This personal security breach serves as a backdrop to the escalating civil unrest across Europe and the Middle East.

In Madison, Wisconsin, thousands of protesters occupied the state capitol to oppose Governor Scott Walker's move to eliminate collective bargaining for state employees. Meanwhile, President Barack Obama appointed Intel CEO Paul Otellini to an economic advisory board, a move critics label as corporate fascism following a similar appointment for GE chief Jeffrey Immelt. In Washington, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ignored the violent removal of 71-year-old veteran Ray McGovern during her speech on internet freedom, while the widow of former presidential aide John Wheeler claimed her husband was the victim of a professional hit. Further revelations from the HBGary email leak suggest private security firms are actively manipulating social media personas to influence public opinion.

Distinctive moments include a formal knighthood ceremony for a listener known as Sir Snortastain, who requested the national anthem be played near his North Pole residence. The hosts also analyze a viral Waka Flocka Flame parody featuring an Obama lookalike and examine the Salt Institute's claim that low-sodium diets are actually fueling the global obesity epidemic. John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry maintain their commitment to a value-for-value model, rejecting all corporate advertising.


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CHAPTER 01 / 27 Discussion

John C. Dvorak Pickpocketed in Madrid Subway

John C. Dvorak reports being pickpocketed by an elderly woman and an accomplice while riding the subway in Madrid, Spain. The theft resulted in the loss of his U.S. passport and two credit cards, leading to complications with Delta Airlines and the U.S. State Department. Dvorak criticizes the lack of assistance from the U.S. Embassy in Madrid, which remained closed for the President's Day holiday despite his travel emergency.

madrid· spain· pickpocket· passport· delta airlines· american express· state department

00:00 the twitter thing doesn't work and i'm sure it's on cd or it's on a february twentieth two thousand eleven times you get a nation media assassination episode two eight zero is is no agenda doing my part to outcasts all the rest of the slaves here from the hilltop watchtower crackpot command center in the nation's west in the people's republic of southern california in the morning i'm adam curry and from uh... Ditto Nation, Castanets soon to be renamed. I'm John C. DeVorek. Not tomorrow. Seriously. I have to stay here because our State Department... Yeah. This is good. I'm getting lots of material. Wait a minute. Ho, ho, ho, ho. This is thanks to you because we have to do the show on time every day. Okay, hold on. So I sacrifice. I take this day off. Now I'm here stuck. Hold on a second. Back it up for a moment. You got pickpocketed? What was the whore's name? It was an old woman from what I could... as I recall. Right. It's pretty funny. Well, how did it happen? Give me this. It was on the subway.

01:13 Oh my god. I didn't realize it until I just, it was, it was, you know, it was slick. But just to tell you the point, what the real point is. No, no, no, we'll get to that in a second. Human resources need to know. I've been pickpocketed. Well, I got pickpocketed in Reno once. I got picked, which is why I thought it was cool. Right, but what was the distraction? Not this old hag? Yes, this old woman. She was trying to get off and then she decided to get back on and she bumps into me. That's the only time I got bumped because there's always a bump involved. Of course it is, yeah. and there was a switch she was just an annoying old lady knowing all lady you just get it makes you go to your brain you go out and annoying old lady everything is a pickpocket working so she bumped you and that was a you had in your inside park pocket inside your story that i don't know is in a front pocket i think she had an accomplished i'm not sure cuz i can imagine she could have possibly done it john it's a it's crazy because i imagine you to be a fanny pack kinda guy

02:03 No, no, I imagine you to be one of those guys who has like a leather necklace with his passport in a document carrier around your neck. Yeah, you really think that? Yes, I have those visualizations. You think I carry a fanny pack? Well, you know what? You'd have your passport now, wouldn't you? Normally I wouldn't be carrying my passport around but they want you to carry it around a lot. So anyway, no normally I actually I would keep it in a zippered pocket and for some reason it wasn't in there. It was in my front pocket which is usually pretty safe but anyway so I got picked by it. So I ended up losing a passport and a, I got two credit cards which we just canceled and fixed. I'll probably get an American Express replaced.

02:54 probably tomorrow because American Express works on Mondays in a country that has no holiday this coming Monday as opposed to our State Department which seems to close its embassy around the world for President's Day. They got to take advantage of the car sales for President's Day and then the kicker is Actually, I got a lot of good stories. First of all, so I have to change my flight. So Delta Airlines, if you try calling them on any number anywhere in the world, and my favorite one is you call their 800 number using international calling on a regular phone and it calls and it gets you and they get this message at the beginning saying, this 1-800 number is not valid in the country you're calling from. You will be charged at international rates if you do not want this hang up.

03:46 So then the Delta thing comes on, so I don't hang up. Comes on and says, oh, just because of the bad weather we've had to staff a lot more people and so we're behind. Please shut up slave and wait for someone to take your call essentially. No. Click. So I tried it again, same thing. They just hang up on you. So I can't Ask them about you know this thing that's on the website about possibly getting out tomorrow Because there's some process you can do it without a passport. Oh, yeah, good luck Yeah, hi they said they said I could come into the country without a passport yes Let me send you this link to this page and let's just go over this in fact. There's a couple interesting things here Well, am I this interested?

04:44 Yeah. I'd like the human interest side of the story more. Let's get back to the old hag. No, no. This is part of it. The old lady, I mean, I never... What can I say? Just the old lady. Usually it's a hooker who comes up to you and goes, oh, I love you, and she hugs you and that's when it happens. I wouldn't know that. By the way, this is the story of the old lady, everybody. It's the story. If it was a hooker, it would be a better story. I would have used it. Okay Okay, hold on a second. Yeah, okay. I just want you to read something. I know this may be tedious Yeah, somewhat, but okay. I feel your pain. Yeah, but I don't have clips. Yeah, I got clip I have I did over time by the way there are some really interesting I've been I have been following stuff, so it's kind of interesting internationally hold on I think this is it okay there once we get past this from begin I can harp on this later Okay, go to that website page mm-hmm

05:39 Ah, yes. Lost and stolen U.S. passports abroad. What should you do if you're a citizen and your passport is lost or stolen? Contact your embassy or consulate. Okay, stop, stop, stop. Go down, down, down, down, almost to the bottom where it says, of course, are our fees going to be charged? Oh, yes. Of course. Can the U.S. ... the last question. Yes, can the U.S. embassy issue a replacement passport over a weekend or a holiday? Now go to paragraph 2 and start reading. If you are scheduled to travel directly to the United States, the duty officer may be able to assist in issuing a transportation letter to the airline and alerting U.S. Customs and Immigration to the fact that you will be attempting to enter the United States without a passport. Now duty officers must focus primary attention on life or death emergencies. No, that's the kicker. If you don't have a life or death emergency, they're not going to care.

06:41 No, that's not the answer they give you. Yes it is. They say that that... It is the answer. No, that's not the answer. What do you mean it is? I've talked to them. How do you know? I've asked them about this letter of transport. and they tell me it's bullshit. We wrote that in 1999. No, no, they say that and they don't even know it exists. They say, this woman, that's the duty officer here in Madrid, and by the way I called Washington DC too, and they say, oh well let's look into it, and they transfer me to somebody else, the foreign duty officer says, oh okay well let's look into it, and then he says, I'm transferring you to the Madrid duty officer and hangs up on me. Click. It's like it's the same woman again, and she says, oh you again.

07:22 So no, I talked to her and she's there with her husband apparently also works at the embassy and I know what they're doing. And they got a little cottage industry going on there. You watch this is gonna cost you $800 I guarantee ya. Right, this is another good reason not to do the show every week on time. Anyway, the So she says that she's never heard of this policy. I said it's right on the website, you can read it. She says it must be an old website. Yeah, I told you, an $18 million website. It's not an old website, it's brand new. In fact, the old website's still around and it tells you to go to this new website. It's one of the new $8 million websites.

08:02 And so she's, no, no, this must be before 9-11. I never heard of this. And then she said, she started talking to my husband. He's never heard of such a thing. So what's going on? This is our government at work getting paid all this money, living it up in Madrid, doing dinner parties. And I'm like, you know, reading from their own website and they're telling me this is bullshit. There you go. So, there's gambling going on there, huh? Really? Our government's messed up. Well, goodnight everybody. We had a fantastic show once again. Unbelievable. I'm really sorry for you. I guess the upgrade is out of the question now as well. What upgrade? Well, you're not going to be using, they're not going to accept your miles if you miss your original flight. I'm on the same ticket. I'm on the same ticket. I get the same upgrade. Yeah, right. You'll see. You'll see.

08:49 Alright, so when are you coming back, honey? When do we have to go for you? Well, it depends. I'm supposed to be coming back tomorrow, I mean, originally, and then it will be Tuesday now. Alert the office. Grumet, you listening? So it'll be Tuesday. that assuming i get in and out of the part of the consulate before like ten o'clock so i can jump on a cab to get to the airport for my eleven thirty flight uh... i'm assuming i'm not going to wait days on end all lives possible i won't get back to wednesday uh... yes well i'm so sorry about that man the socks i don't have to list what's really interesting is the fact that the you know they were did services so poor

09:31 I mean, is American Express going to get me a new card? You know what's next? We're going to have video of you walking around looking really dazed with your shoes off and then you'll be found in a dumpster. This is just the beginning. First we remember that if you see that it's something bad has happened, it's bullcrap whatever you read. Something has happened. First he lost his identity. He thought he was like some writer from San Francisco. Oh come here sir. You're clearly disturbed. Don't wear a cravat, whatever you do. That's not a good idea right now, okay? Oh my goodness, oh wow. Alright, well in the morning then. Anything to top that? No, I think that's toppers. A pretty boring life here compared to your life of international intrigue.

CHAPTER 02 / 27 Discussion

Global Revolts and Social Media Customer Service

A discussion regarding the widespread media coverage of global uprisings and the effectiveness of corporate customer service on social media platforms. While Delta Airlines failed to respond to assistance requests via Twitter, other companies like Comcast are noted for their rapid response times. The conversation highlights the contrast between the high volume of revolt coverage in Europe versus the United States.

global revolts· twitter· delta assist· comcast· social media· customer service

10:25 But I will say in the morning to all citizens stranded abroad, all ships at sea, boots on the ground, wings in the sky, foot in the ocean, checks in the mail, bakers in the kitchens, dungs in the pits, astronauts manning the moon and Mars base stations, anybody out there napping for humanity, hands on the air, and human resources everywhere around Gitmo Nation, particularly those in the chat room. That's it, gentlemen, see you again next week. Right. We appreciate everyone being in the chat room at noagendastream.com, all charged up and ready to go. So, wow. I don't think I can top that really. There has been a lot of really interesting stuff going on stateside while you've been over there. What would be kind of interesting to know and maybe I'm sure you've paid attention to it, is there any type of coverage of the global revolts? I'm sorry, I mean of course, global revolts! There's nothing but coverage of these revolts. In fact, there's so much it's revolting.

11:26 uh... it's like that's all they're covering and the funny thing is i got it uh... from uh... one of the context we have over here garcia who's one of the new agenda listeners or so and taken around with uh... in a of mobile yet and i i i just say i was talking with mickey yesterday uh... we route outside before the hell of rain erupted and that's you know it's a really nice feeling to know that no no matter where i am in get my nation i know one tweet will get me whatever i need and by the way you should take advantage of that now if you need something then this is one tweet you got it right and we we've got producers everywhere it's absolutely the case so what's up again get a passport was one tweet no here's a here's another way wait wait

12:13 So, Delta, who won't answer the phone, and then I can't get the Madrid phone to work, they have a number you call and it says, oh, this is Delta Airlines, and you speak English or Spanish, and you push English, and it says, Delta, this is the wrong number now, here's the new number. And the other number just hangs up on you. It tells you to go to the website before it hangs up or you can go to Twitter and use Delta Assist. Oh, right. I'm sure that works well. Let's see. We're four hours and counting. I sent a note to Delta that says nothing. Zip. I mean these other Twitter people that get on Twitter like the Comcast people, they're back to you in less than 15 minutes almost always.

12:57 Yeah, and but your service isn't restored within 15 minutes. So what's the difference? Oh, but at least you know, you should feel good about the fact that they're paying attention. I mean these Delta guys are just out to lunch Even though I do have to say the elite business class is a lot better than it used to be So although I'm still you know, this is typical. It doesn't surprise me Let's put it that way that I can't either get a hold of them to change my flight or I can't the Twitter thing doesn't work So there's their phony Twitter errs. I mean if you're gonna It's like people say here's your email address and they never use email. I think this still goes on. Alright, so you're clearly annoyed. Oh yeah, which is good for the show. Yeah. So here in Hollywood there's only two things on the news. Of course one is the global uprising, riots everywhere, including Madison, Wisconsin.

CHAPTER 03 / 27 Discussion

Wisconsin Senate Protests and Union Collective Bargaining

Protests erupted at the state senate in Madison, Wisconsin, following Republican efforts to eliminate collective bargaining rights for state employees, including teachers. The scale of the demonstrations is compared to Tahrir Square, though media portrayals are criticized for underrepresenting the crowd size. The situation is framed as a significant conflict between state workers and the newly elected Republican administration.

madison· wisconsin· collective bargaining· republicans· state employees· unions

13:56 Which is quite interesting. You've been able to follow that? At the college? At the university? Well, it's not at the university. It's at the Senate. like everyone to stop working. Why? Because, well so, I think it was pretty well known when they brought in the, you know, the Republicans were voted in and they said well, you know, no more collective bargaining for state employees which of course includes teachers and everything and so all the teachers said oh yeah well then we're not gonna work anymore. So this is the actual problem with having a state workers in unions.

14:33 Right, so they're trying to bust up the unions which I find, you know, the whole thing is just really interesting to watch. Probably more so because if you watch television you don't actually see the mass of people that are there. It's really, it's quite big. I mean it's like Tahrir Square. It's pretty big. But on television you just see like some people with some signs and stuff hanging around. I don't think it's really being portrayed properly. But the other important thing is the Oscars, John. Who gives a crap about anything else? And producer Robert Searles caught something. He says, hey, I think Obama's stuttering is actually promotion for the King's speech. Which I thought was pretty good. Get some sympathy for the stuttering going there. Because of course it's either that or the social network.

CHAPTER 04 / 27 Discussion

Barack Obama, Intel, and Corporate Fascism

President Barack Obama visited an Intel facility in Portland, Oregon, where he named Intel CEO Paul Ottolini to his advisory panel on the economy. This move follows the previous appointment of GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt, leading to claims of collusion between big business and the federal government. The trend is characterized as a form of corporate fascism where major CEOs exert direct influence over government policy.

barack obama· intel· paul ottolini· jeffrey immelt· fascism· general electric

15:29 So yeah, I'm like okay. That works. I admired that maybe this code it could be code who knows He's certainly been doing more of it more more stuttering than usual or of this just uttering in fact this is Stammering before we get any repeats words repeats his words a lot. Oh, yeah, he's saying the same thing again and again exactly like the King speech you haven't seen it yet I don't think but it's exactly like so I am Of course, as I do every single weekend, I go to our whitehouse.gov $18 million website and I watch two things. I watch the West Wing Week, that is the reality show that they put together there at the White House on Final Cut Pro, nice little job. And of course I watch our President's, El Presidente's address.

16:16 Um, this week, he's on location, John. He's on location. He actually, he sounds like he could be working for, he's like a news guy on location. Who's on location? The president. He's on location. Oh. Yeah, he's doing his... Isn't he the location? Well he's on location and let's hear where he is and what he's doing. I'm speaking to you from just outside Portland, Oregon where I'm visiting Intel, a company that helped pioneer the digital age. I just came from a tour of an assembly line where highly skilled technicians are building microprocessors that run everything from desktop computers to smartphones. Now why is he at this Intel facility, John? Now of course you remember he was... Uh, he was getting a free phone? I don't know. Well the last time he was on location was at General Electric and what was he there for really?

17:10 He was there to nominate. Oh yeah, to pull somebody out of the company to work for him. Yeah, you mean Jeffrey Immelt? You mean like the big guy? The big kahuna? Yeah, so now he's at Intel. He wouldn't try to do the same thing again with another CEO. Well, Obama has named Intel's Ottolini to his advisory panel on the economy. and there you go. So now we have two shadows in the puppet theater. We have Immelt and Ottolini who are going to control everything and this is total collusion of big business and government and it's as far as I'm concerned... Yeah it's the definition of fascism is what it is. Yeah, collusion between the government and these

CHAPTER 05 / 27 Discussion

West Wing Week and the Out-Hustle Strategy

The White House promotional series "West Wing Week" featured President Obama discussing the national budget and education strategy at Parkville Middle School in Maryland. During the presentation, Obama emphasized the need for the United States to "out-hustle" the rest of the world to secure future industries. The rhetoric is mocked for its choice of terminology, suggesting a focus on "scamming" rather than traditional economic competition.

west wing week· barack obama· arne duncan· jack lew· education· budget

17:55 but then the uh... the pro-president a in west wing week of course i love the show uh... they could totally get this on bravo i don't understand why they don't uh... he uh... of course has to talk about uh... are winning the future strategy so what is the president do that he goes to talk to a bunch of eighth graders to explain this night and first he's a you know i do it you'll hear he endears them a little bit and then he uh... is in like a classroom And it's really pathetic looking because you know when you see these speeches you only see the president, he's got two dudes with him, I forget who's with him, and you see the flags behind him and you see the chalkboard. But on the West Wing Week you kind of get the behind the scenes footage and it's like an empty, you know they moved all the kids out, shut up slave move your desk out.

18:44 and it's just a classroom, it's kind of pathetic, it's not very stat... you know, it doesn't have a lot of the stature that you see from the speech when it's televised. But he says something really, really interesting and I want you to hear this. So first, a little setup there in the classroom and then listen to how we're going to win the future and his message to the childrens of Gitmo Nation. President Obama traveled to Maryland, where he unveiled his budget at Parkville Middle School and Center of Technology, where students focus on science, technology, engineering, and math. To show how investments in education are essential to ensuring every American is equipped to out-compete workers around the world. So, stop, stop, stop.

19:26 Who is this announcer? This guy's style of speaking is like... What is that? They don't have a credit on who does the voiceover, but it's the same guy every week. He's grown on me. It's alright. I'm used to it. I'm a fan of the show. It's a good show. The West Wing Week. West Wing Week featuring Barack Obama. Very, very quick. Well, excuse me. I didn't mean to insult you. The president was then joined by Secretary of Education Arne Duncan and OMB Director Jack Lew. Now, listen carefully to how we are going to outwit all of these... How are we going to outwit China? John, what do you think the answer is? Do you have a strategy for this?

20:11 I don't. we've got some believe we've got a out hustle them isn't what is the definition of hustle is not like scam yeah like the way i lost my passport if you've got a house and we got a pickpocket those people this is not again it just blows me away these investments are an essential part of the budget my administration sending to congress because i'm convinced that if we have built and out innovate and out educate out build out innovate out educate uh... come on you can do another one

21:05 as well as out hustle the rest of the world the jobs and industries of our time will take root here come on kids let's hustle who's got some dice we gotta out hustle them i love that show there you go so i went to the there's a giant flea market talking about out hustling so there's a couple of things going on over here that are interesting is not getting covered much and by the way there's nothing lots of coverage of these riots mainly focusing on baron and uh um what's the other one jordan syria no no libya libya

CHAPTER 06 / 27 Discussion

Middle East Unrest and Chinese Economic Dominance in Europe

Violent crackdowns in Libya and protests in Bahrain and Yemen signal deepening instability across the Middle East. Meanwhile, in Europe, high youth unemployment rates reaching 40% in Spain are fueling domestic unrest and protests involving the use of police whistles. Observations from Spanish flea markets suggest that Chinese-manufactured goods have largely displaced local production, indicating a significant shift in European market dynamics.

libya· bahrain· yemen· spain· china· unemployment

21:45 So Libya, all hell's breaking loose, but the Libyans are basically shooting everybody. Yeah, like a hundred people they killed. At least. And so that's going to make things worse and so that's probably going to fall. And then Bahrain, which is a fairly modern country. Well, Bahrain is like Berkeley. It's really small. I don't know if it's going to fall. You know what, it might fall after the Formula One race. No one's going to stand for that. They need the Formula One. But the funny thing is about the Iranian thing is that when you see the protesters, they're all these like extreme Muslims that are, you know, covered in black. I mean, in the Middle East, they put women in these, it's not burqas, it's called something else, but it's a completely black outfit. And in many cases their eyes are covered and they're just like a big black ghost.

22:31 and uh... what and and this is interesting because the temperature there you know it's like one forty yes and so that the was used to be roasting in these things and that these are the people protesting and looking so this is this place is going to go a fundamentalist is no question about is going to be interesting to see that happen but the libyan is in a fall apart because in the summer i didn't go around and yemen so i'm talking to garcia here in spain and he says that uh... and we actually were roaming around parts of downtown and there was a big protest that was going on. I don't know, it was probably about three or four hundred people with signage and I started noticing this on other protests too and I had never seen it in the states, which is everybody in the protest group has got a whistle. You'd love this by the way, because I know how much you enjoy me whistling stuff.

23:21 They had these they all have these police whistles, and they're all blowing him constantly and it is really annoying Yeah, that's kind of the point of a protest. You're supposed to be annoyed. This is like beyond normal annoyance. I mean it is just annoying. It's just this... Well that's a good plan. I like that. We should all be whistling. When I first heard it, which was coming, I was like walking around, not too close to it. I said, what's this? It sounds like... I referenced this to different people. And Night of the Triffids? No, sorry. Ugh, nobody gets this joke. Well in the movie, not... I did triffids, there's this weird sound which is almost the exact same sound that these people are making with these whistles. So I'm watching some of the protests on TV and some other areas and you see the whistles in their mouths. So this is like a big thing that hasn't been picked up on in the US yet. But I think there's money to be made for you people out there looking for a good investment in a police whistle company.

24:16 I think this could catch on. Because I don't think slide whistles are going to work. You can just put the whistle in your mouth, you don't have to hold it or anything. And they just, these whistles. Anyway, they were bitching about this group in front of City Hall, or the Congress or something, I don't know. They were complaining about, it seems as though they were screwed on the housing thing too, and these are a bunch of housing protesters. but so does your spain do this is the next country to go portugal's already uh... they're already preparing the bailout for portugal spain is on the way all you know the spain is going to go and and in fact you can see it everywhere in love i'll give you a couple of them uh... local stories first of all garcia says that the big giant you know middle eastern type protest is scheduled for all of spain on the thirtieth so that'll be hash tag thirty

25:07 or something. Something's gonna happen on the 30th, it'll be interesting to see if it's covered in the states. he says that the unemployment rate amongst the kids in a lot of these countries, Spain mainly... Oh, 25% I guarantee it. 40. Oh my god, yeah. Yeah, well this is the big disillusion. This is what's happening in Gitmo Nation East as well, is that all these kids went to school, right? And they study and then they come out of school, it's like, okay go work in the chip shop. They're like, well hold on a second. And then, you know, and now it's like, of course, you know, they're trying to raise these tuition fees So it's just become a nation of slaves for the kids. They're totally disillusioned and this is, well, that's why they all have to learn how to hustle here. At least our president is speaking truth to power.

25:51 Just learn how to hustle kids. Don't get an education, you gotta hustle people. That's how it works. So apparently the Chinese have moved into most of Europe already and basically taken over all the markets like they did in Africa. And so he's complaining that the Spanish don't make, they got one car company, they don't make anything anymore. So I go to this, there's this giant flea market that runs on Sunday. Huge, this thing is monstrous. And it's like the French... Yeah, everyone's selling their stuff to pay the rent. Well, there's a lot of people selling their stuff to pay the rent, that's true. But there's a lot of these other products, you know, there's stuff for sale, all sorts, clothing, bags, all these other things. And I guess there's some EU law, you really can't sell anything unless the country of origin is listed. So all these handmade goods from Spain are, guess where they're made? China.

CHAPTER 07 / 27 Discussion

No Agenda Executive Producer Donations and PR Initiatives

The program acknowledges top-tier donors including Carl Heidel and Andrew Blackburn, who joined the "280 Club" as Executive Producers. Associate Executive Producers Nora Dean Snortastain and David Burnett are also recognized for their financial contributions. Various listener-led PR initiatives are highlighted, such as the acquisition of "No Agenda" related domains and the creation of custom Gitmo Nation hoodies.

executive producers· donations· knighthood· no agenda show· listener support

26:42 Yeah, there was more Chinese goods in this place than I've ever seen in one location. It was worse than anything I've seen in the USA. Everything was made in China. And it was cheap. I mean, the deals, there were deals. Of course there's deals. The Chinese are giving it away. All right, let's thank some people, John. There's a lot of good coverage of the G20. We'll talk about that later. Yeah, let's thank some people before we get too far gone here. should we have an exec now we had a couple we got uh... we'll get to uh... will call and we got to executive producers uh... that are in the two eight e-club on a show to it but i think people who do do this by the way uh... story dollars donation denix cool club will be the two eighty one club and uh... not to move this i think you can get break here

27:36 Carl Heidel in Madison, Mississippi and Andrew Blackburn in Mountain Zion, Illinois and actually Carl added 89 cents. He's got some rationale. I've got another gimmick for donations at least for Gitmo non-US. What's that? Hold on a second. I don't understand what this... My little thing at the bottom is popped up and it won't go back which is making it impossible for me to scroll. That's weird. Maybe I can help. I figured out, yeah February 30th Eric was paging me and it caused a thing to pop up. I've got another gimmick for Get More Nation US. I'm using my state county FIPS for the donation amount. FIPS? What is that? What's a state county FIPS? I don't know. Fiscal Identity

28:33 something on it fits right here f i p s fits and i did dot is it f i p s s fits it's also to be a i don't know asking but you'll get up to the show five sixty someone from wyoming can send you five sixty xx amount i have both challenge going to appreciate y'all's efforts to get the coins out to be a night when this is a summer prom twelve generation uh... german-american uh... uh... federal information processing standards so eric says Right he would know I think Eric is a fed actually and he might be Jury still out on that but no, okay. Anyway, so those are two executive producer We got one two one two associate executive producers or pal Nora Dean snort a stain right snore stain in Norway He's practically at the North Pole actually. Yeah, he's our North Pole guy. We got Santa Claus basically and

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34:33 we hit people in the mouth. Order! Say it with me now everybody! Shut up, slave! So the big news over here is actually kind of a rebound news from what's going on in New York and there's specials about it, there's shows, the BBC did one, French TV's got something on it. Is this about the Germans buying the stock exchange?

CHAPTER 08 / 27 Discussion

New York City Outdoor Smoking Ban and Hiring Discrimination

New York City has implemented or is considering bans on outdoor smoking in public areas like beaches and parks, a move that has sparked debate in Europe. Additionally, some companies in New York have adopted policies against hiring smokers, which is criticized as a form of legal discrimination. The discussion suggests that such regulations may set a precedent for further lifestyle-based employment restrictions.

new york city· smoking ban· discrimination· employment· tobacco

35:11 No, guess again. What did they do? This is more important than that apparently to these Europeans. Um, well then it has to have something to do with, oh wait, it must be that ecstasy is not dangerous for your brain. No, that's interesting. No, no, that was a big report came out, big report today. Everybody I know that uses that stuff to excess has a dinghy. Okay, well anyway, I'll tell you what it is. Okay. uh... apparently new york is either considering or has banned outdoor smoking in front of buildings don't know this is this happened three weeks ago that they've been showing you how it's smoking on the beaches smoking everywhere yeah that europeans are the europeans have seen the writing on the wall and i don't know that that we're not going to go there

35:59 Well, they know that worse thing that's happened over here was smoking hasn't resulted in it happening over there Over here right there now right so and so they're worried sick that they're not gonna be able to smoke outside in There could be able to smoke at all. They're worried sick, and so they're having all these debates about it So I was watching this one that just cracked me up. It was a Finnish and a Latvian and and uh... they're talking about the idea of uh... banning tobacco grow growing tobacco and the def i think it was the finish guy was complaining about the fact that uh... the e-news subsidizes tobacco farmers meanwhile they're banning people from smoking how does that make any sense well we got a list now we got us a lot of slaves in africa who love to smoke in the chin we're we're making the chinese smoke themselves to death

36:44 it's funny i've had this issue in the show notes two weeks in a row and i want to bring it up you know mainly cleo being an ex-smoker and all i have a uh... get into that but what's worse in new york and this is what this is the article the caught my eye is that companies are now there is a policy of not hiring smokers so they and this is of course completely discriminated and we had a bit these but apparently new york's made it legal that is yes you hear too yes it's listen you can say hey are you a smoker and if you say no and they catch you smoking you can get fired and people have been fired for this already which is like wow you know that's pretty nice they could not hire you if you're a smoker to yeah

CHAPTER 09 / 27 Discussion

European Court of Human Rights and British Prisoner Voting

The European Court of Human Rights has reprimanded the United Kingdom for its policy of denying voting rights to prisoners. This conflict highlights tensions regarding national sovereignty under the Lisbon Treaty. Relatedly, the enforcement of vagrancy laws in Belfast, which resulted in the jailing of a homeless man, is cited as an example of the treaty's stricter protocols regarding migrants and vagrants.

european union· human rights· lisbon treaty· belfast· prisoners· voting rights

37:28 So you say, yeah I'm a smoker, well you're not getting this job, then punk it. I'll tell you why this is bad because it's smoking today, what is it tomorrow? That's your argument, but the funny thing is the Europeans never bring that up. I don't understand what they're saying. They're just worried it's going to happen. It's hilarious. I mean the other thing, watching the news over here is just almost a stitch because of the kind of preoccupation. The British have a thing going on right now, I guess with the EU that's not being covered. Are you familiar with what's going on with the Human Rights Commission? that's going to be you've true at the with the judgment against the EU over some human rights violations has got the EU completely been out of shape as one guy says we're quitting we're gonna get out of the EU we if this is going to continue you guys keep picking on us I and the only thing I know is that there was a guy in and this is very consistent by the way with the Lisbon Treaty and I have it actually in the show notes today in the United States of Europe

38:27 A homeless man in Belfast has now been in jail for a week. If you'll recall, John, way back when I was reading the protocols of the Lisbon Treaty, and you can get picked up and thrown in jail if you are a migrant or a vagrant. If you're homeless or if you have some kind of communicable disease, you know So basically all all of these things are now coming to roost as a guy who was homeless has been thrown in jail Like just shut up city. You got no home get go to jail Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. Well, there was this big special on the count, you know, there's other kind of organizations within the EU Parliament, like, you from the Council of Europe? Yeah, no, no, we... And the Committee of Ministers? Yeah, the Council of Europe are the guys that we talked about on the last show who put together that Budapest Cybercrime Convention.

39:20 Yeah, that we're going to get screwed by. Yeah. And then there's the... anyway, out of the Council of Europe comes the European Court of Human Rights and they blasted the British because they... it's a serious human rights violation because the British do not let their prisoners vote. Okay. They've been reprimanded. Okay. The British say, we don't care what you think. We don't let our prisoners vote. We've never let our prisoners vote. We're not going to start now because it's a human rights violation when there's other things going on that are worse in other countries. And so now there's a big debate going on and they had this show that was a special, another hour of this, and including

40:03 apparently the British are getting condemned for expediting prisoners when they're not supposed to send them to foreign countries, but the big defender of all these practices and she comes up, she's a woman from Holland Oh yes I know she's kind of hot too isn't she what's her name again? She's kind of pretty and she but she says oh you know we've made these decisions to join forces and we have to you know she basically says the sovereignty thing you have to give a little you know it's better to she's just basically all in what do you know what this all comes down to is exactly what everyone's afraid of is we have this you know this big european lisbon treaty all these rules and they also know that i'll bet this just guidelines you can uh... put your own sovereign rules in place and of course no one does now because we've got to be kumbaya we've got a play together play nice so we all have to have to do it which is also why we have to genetically modified food coming into europe or it's it's just one big scam

CHAPTER 10 / 27 Discussion

Inside Job Documentary and Matt Taibbi on Banking Corruption

The documentary "Inside Job," narrated by Matt Damon, and a recent Rolling Stone article by Matt Taibbi examine the systemic corruption within the financial sector and the lack of criminal prosecutions following the 2008 crisis. The content suggests that the military-industrial-academic complex remains unchanged under the Obama administration. The segment concludes that the financial elite continue to operate with impunity while the public bears the economic burden.

inside job· matt damon· matt taibbi· rolling stone· goldman sachs· banking crisis

41:03 You know two things came out John here in quick succession yesterday the Movie slash documentary the excellent movie. I recommend everyone get it inside job Hit the bit torrent networks is now on a DVD it played in theaters actually tried to catch it here in Los Angeles I do want to support this guy I think this guy actually should make his next one with like a Kickstarter project or something and and it's uh... it's funny because you watch this and psycho this is exactly what no agenda has been telling me for three years it's it's exactly how the scam work it he'd be doesn't go into a lot of things and luckily just at the end where mike alright now this is is all going to be like bush was bad you know clinton a little bit bad and then luckily luckily comes out the last fifteen minutes well you know nothing has changed with the obama administration it's narrated by matt damon uh... and

41:59 It's very informative. At the same time this comes out with an article by Matt Taibbi in the Rolling Stone. And Matt Taibbi, why this guy is still alive is astounding to me. He works for the CIA. Well, could be. or military intelligence, I mean whoever. Well he certainly doesn't work for the bankers and just let me just read you this. Oh his banker stuff is great. Yeah this is banker stuff. Let me just read you the first. He's also the guy who as you recall that got McChrystal fired. Oh yeah no he's so he's on the inside so someone you know you're right he definitely is protected for writing this stuff and someone's pissed off at the bankers and it should be all of us but here's the opening paragraphs

42:48 over drinks at a bar on a dreary snowy night in washington this past month a former senate investigator laughed as he polished off his beer everything's fucked up and nobody goes to jail he said that's your whole story right there hell you don't have to write the rest of it just write that and so this comes out which is highly recommended to read as well as the as the movie And when you see the, and you're so right, it's the military-industrial-academic complex You know, forget it. We're screwed. There is no way out. Even at the end of this movie with a shot of the Statue of Liberty and Matt Damon saying, well you know, it'll take quite a while and we'll have to work very hard to turn all this back. All these crooks are stealing from us and pushing us slaves into horrible circumstances. But it's worth trying. I saw that and was like, no it's not. I'm just going to put my head up my ass and go to sleep.

43:53 Forget about it. It's laughable. It is laughable how we are everything that's happening is directly relatable back to a relatively small group of people who are doing this and And they get off scot-free It's one big cabal. Well, they just steal the money. They throw the the slaves have to pay they were paying them and From time that even in Madison you see a human resource running around with the sign saying hey Why should we pay you back Goldman Sachs because that's essentially where all the money goes. It's it. You know we need a revolt It's just, unfortunately... You see it's gonna happen some other places but it won't happen in the US. The Oscars coming up. Not only that but Charlie Sheen, you know, he's got the new season of Two and a Half Men, it's doing great. Yeah, we can't miss that. We gotta go home and see the Kardashians. But I do have a clip, two clips I'd like to play for you briefly.

CHAPTER 11 / 27 Discussion

Robert Gates and the Failure to Close Guantanamo Bay

Defense Secretary Robert Gates testified before Congress regarding the military budget and the continued operation of the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay. Despite President Obama's 2009 executive order to close the prison within one year, Gates admitted that the prospects for closure remain very low due to congressional opposition. The failure to fulfill this campaign promise is highlighted as a significant departure from the administration's stated goals.

robert gates· guantanamo bay· barack obama· executive order· military budget

44:55 Because while you were over there getting pickpocketed or maybe we should say You were hot-pocketed I'm over here doing what we normally do together Don't have to So they have like a congressional hearing and this is mainly about the budget and it's the military budget which is almost 700 billion dollars of which a lot of it is health care Healthcare in the past 10 years went for our military personnel went from a paltry 12 billion to 30 billion dollars and of course that's not just because of the rising cost of healthcare, that's because our boys and girls are getting shot up. They're being torn apart and that costs money to go and put them back together again.

45:51 for human resources uh... but gates brings out the whole he he brings in everybody he's got panetta there he's got clapper who you know clapper You can't write this stuff. You should just watch Clapper for an hour and just poop yourself. The guy is a nincompoop. He's a complete idiot. And he's the director of military, of national intelligence. This is the guy who didn't know there was something going on in England when he was talking to Diane Sawyer. Yeah, hilarious. And he was a professor and something happened to him because you look at pictures of him on his wiki page when he was an officer. I think he was a lieutenant general.

46:27 uh... and he looks sharp right now it looks like a disheveled professor is completely probably probably drugged and i'm telling you the the heat probably and and i'm c-span it's a beautiful because before you see the before and the after the actual hearing and here's how it goes before everyone's like you know of course Joe Lieberman's up there and and everyone comes by and they're all talking and hanging out and then they do this you know really extreme grilling of questions for two hours and then the end everyone walks up and they're hugging each other and then you know high-five and hey good job great show yeah it's just like we really put the show on for the slaves didn't we

47:09 it's annoying so anyway uh... they start talking about uh... on while locking you know the guy who uh... was invited as a guest speaker at the pentagon and now is the number one most wanted guy in the world above osama bin laden yeah i did but he bumped us on my yeah he's he's a bit number of the number one with a bullet on while i keep up and also i'll be glad this week on the chart i'm casey case and i do everybody and by the way what happened to shadow stevens uh... and so of course is like the it's like well you know if we catch either of these guys you know and if we catch osama or or on my lucky where we gonna put in john where we gonna put these guys uh... there's only a little bit you there'll be jail i don't know no man block up the at the obvious answer is get mal now i'd like to take you back and remind you that on january twenty second two thousand nine

48:07 2009, our president, his very first executive order. An executive order, which as far as I know, it's like when the president says here's my executive order, like, there's a curfew or, you know, we're confiscating your gold or no more whatever, then that's the law, right? isn't it a little order kind of like i'd order you i command the actually it turns out to be although i think a lot of these things are unconstitutional nobody wants to fight it well here's a what happened that just as a quick refresher january twenty second at two thousand uh... i've said repeatedly that i intend to close guantanamo and i will follow through on that uh... i've said repeatedly that america doesn't torture and i'm gonna make sure that we don't torture uh... those are uh... those are part and parcel of

48:57 on an effort to regain America's moral stature in the world. That's right. And that was on 60 Minutes and of course he signed this with great bravado. He signed the executive order which actually would be kind of fun to listen to that here. This first executive order that we are signing by the authority vested in me as president by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America in order to affect the appropriate disposition of individuals currently retained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo.

49:33 uh... and promptly close the detention facility at guantanamo consistent with national security and foreign policy interests of the united states and the interest of justice i hear by the process whereby guantanamo will be closed no later than one year from now one year from now that would have been a year ago what was the date uh... this was signed january twenty second two thousand nine We are now past January 22, 2011 and it is still open. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, that doesn't add up. It seems like two years have passed. Yeah. Which means one year past the deadline. Yes. I don't get...

50:17 Well, it's I mean he sounds like he didn't do his buddy said yeah, yeah, sounds like the executive order is that yeah? How can you like defy an executive order well? This is how you do it if we? Are able to capture a high-value target a high-value target John that would be Benny or Ali in an area where we may not currently be engaged in a conflict, a direct conflict, where are we going to put these individuals if we are, if the President still goes forward to attempt to close Guantanamo? I think the honest answer to that question is we don't know. If we capture them outside of the areas where

51:03 where we are at war and are not covered by the existing authorizations, war authorizations. One possibility is to for such a person to be put in the custody of their home government. Another possibility is that we bring them to the United States. After all, we've brought a variety of terrorists to the United States and put them on trial in Article III courts here over the years. but uh... and let me remind you robert gates has he has no more dog in the hunt he's leaving right so he doesn't give a crap what he he's not gonna have to follow through on anything anyway so bring it on home bobby but it will be a challenge would that cause you to make a different recommendation to the president on closing guantanamo given the challenges that it presents well we i think we're in a position frankly that uh... the prospects for closing guantanamo as best i can tell our

52:04 very, very low given very broad opposition to doing that here in the Congress. Oh, by the way, that's your elected representatives he's saying, hey, it's not my fault. Congress doesn't want to close it. I've never heard this. I've never heard that all these congressmen want to keep going, time going, oh, you have to keep it going. I mean, actually Obama got elected as that's one of the points that got him votes. Yeah. I mean that was see what was this main thing you went first is to get us out of Iraq really fast Hold on a second. I got somebody pounding on my door. Oh It's oh my god here. It comes. Oh, no Don't open the door John you know better than that this is not a smart thing to do hello. Are you still there? What was that room service it was a

53:05 Somebody dropping off water It was someone coming to hey You noisy kids it was anyway back to the right so there you go It's not gonna happen and so if we can defy that executive order I guess we could defy any executive order right doesn't make any difference as far as I'm concerned well It seems to me that he made two major promises one was going to get out of Iraq immediately and we're still there as far as I can tell. Yes. And the other was close Guantanamo and as far as I can tell he didn't do that either. So what promises did he make to get all these people all work to do a lather? Change. Oh change. Change. Change. So a couple other things. There's a lot of Gitmo stuff going on. You remember I mentioned on Thursday about this Hillary Clinton speech?

CHAPTER 12 / 27 Discussion

Hillary Clinton Internet Freedom Speech and Silent Protest

During a speech on internet freedom at George Washington University, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ignored the forcible removal of 71-year-old veteran Ray McGovern. McGovern, a former CIA analyst, stood silently with his back turned to Clinton in a "Veterans for Peace" sweatshirt before being tackled and arrested by security. The incident is contrasted with Clinton's rhetoric regarding the importance of open communication and dissent in foreign nations.

hillary clinton· internet freedom· ray mcgovern· veterans for peace· coica

54:06 The internet freedom speech where she talked about the Budapest Convention. So I've been thinking about that and I've concluded that it was a message. It was code and the code is we're going to start implementing this and using it at will and then lo and behold Keuken crops up again. And COICA is the copyright intellectual property something law. Let me give you the exact definition. COICA. They tried to pass this a year or so ago. Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act. And they tried to do this in September.

54:55 uh... they tried to ram this through it didn't happen and i think that clinton bringing this up in her speech is code for look out here i come and of course uh... regulating copyright is by definition a form of regulating speech so i think we uh... need to be very very careful and very alert as to what it what uh... our legislators are doing under the radar as it were as we're not looking uh... because this is not good and uh... there was some there was a little kerfuffle that took place at uh... at this speech and it's funny because i watched the version you won't remember this but the uh... the version of the speech that is on the the the DOS uh... department of state website is uh... was only one channel it was right channel only and that which is annoying like why is that and it turns out there was a guy

55:52 Let me see, I think I might have a copy. Yeah. So there was a guy in the audience and he stood up and he was angry. He didn't say anything. He turned around and I think he had a sweatshirt on that said, Veterans for Freedom or something like that. And they, so he didn't say anything, but he just stood up in the aisle and he turned around with his back to the Secretary of State. Now there's one thing you don't do is you don't turn your back on the elitist. No you don't. And so what do they do to this guy? They jump him. They jump him and they tackle him to the ground, they handcuff him, he's bleeding and they rough him up and they pull him out. And CNN actually had this caught entirely on

56:41 on video with good audio and went back and listen to the uh... department state breaking here really faintly of course on the other channel that's why they turn that channel down this is what you are missed uh... in the a ministry of truth version this is the version caught on cnn never to be re-aired millions worldwide answered in real time alone and we are with you then the government the plug cell phone service was cut off TV satellite signals were jammed and internet access was blocked for nearly the entire country. The government did not want the people to communicate with each other. And it did not support... And this was a small room too, and she just keeps on going like nothing's happening. The sweatshirt said Veterans for Peace actually. And the guy was a former CIA guy.

57:34 So yeah, I mean it's nutty man. It's completely nutty and she doesn't acknowledge it. She just keeps on going like a like the MK ultra whore that she is. Well that one word at a time you can do that. Just wow just completely like we are in Gitmo and people have silent protests and you know as meanwhile, don't don't see whatever you do. Please ladies and gentlemen. Don't look over there. No, no, no, there's nothing. Go look over at the people with burkas on and stuff like that. That's where it's all happening. Oh, yeah. Don't look over here. Nothing to see here. Look at that. So what, so the guy, I mean, what, he wasn't yelling or anything until they started grabbing him, right? Yeah, he just stood up. Or he wouldn't sit down, I think is the big problem. Everyone had to sit down and he just turned around and had Veterans for Peace on his jacket.

58:29 And they tackled, they just, you know, just grabbed him and like threw him to the ground and the guy was bleeding and I think they might have broken his nose. But he was also a former CIA guy. This is what kills me. Wow. I know, I know. Wow. Exactly. At a speech where she's literally saying, and then the government pulled the plug. We're pulling the plug every single day here. Well, we're gonna get used to it because you can turn on the internet with a worm or something like that and there's a witness in a TV show. Well, that was the other big thing of course is Obama had that dinner at and that was a Thursday just we had the show on Thursday and then Thursday evening Obama had dinner with the elites there in Silicon Valley at John Doar's house. What a joke.

CHAPTER 13 / 27 Discussion

Silicon Valley Elite Dinner and Microsoft Absence

President Obama held a private dinner with Silicon Valley leaders at the home of venture capitalist John Doerr, featuring guests like Mark Zuckerberg, Steve Jobs, and Larry Ellison. The absence of Microsoft representatives is noted, with speculation that Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer may view themselves as above such political gatherings. The event is framed as a meeting of the "technological elite" seeking political influence and ambassadorships.

silicon valley· mark zuckerberg· steve jobs· larry ellison· bill gates· john doerr

59:22 John Doar, who of course was also on the President's economic team, a huge, huge donor, Kleiner Perkins. And then he had... Yeah, no, he's a... He wants to get a... He's trying... In fact, I'm sure... He wants an ambassadorship. Yeah, he wants a... It's a known fact in the Valley that he wants an ambassadorship to some place, a good one, no one of the bullcrap ones. but in the images that there's two dozen ambassadors there's the ones that are these prestige jobs like is good in lynn france in these european was ready to do a lot of partying china is one of them which is george bush's assignment when he was a george h w and uh... then there's all these other little countries all over the world those are all professional diplomats in professional foreign service people most of them connected to have some intelligence agency or another in their they're different that's a different group and they just go from the ambassadorship to an ambassadorship from one country to another now this is like the woman who uh... who be hillary clinton just uh... expelled from luxembourg she was as she collected a whole bunch of money and uh... she got in

1:00:23 She was an Obama bundler and she's partied. What else you can do in Luxembourg? probably the same here in madrid where you can't get out since it's a city city since you know that you won't be doing that this week in tech let me ask you this question of course uh... ever there's two things everyone uh... obviously to note that mark zuckerberg was sitting to the right of the president as steve jobs of photograph from behind looking at thin and rather frail and i was a little speculation by sitting to the left And Larry Ellison, by the way, a little unnoticed, his gaze at the president during their toast is priceless. It's so like, urr, urr, you know, like macho man Larry Ellison. But of course everyone is like, no Microsoft representative. Why is that? What is your take on that from a technology perspective?

1:01:18 ball well it's not a gates was not there uh... they could have had a number of uh... of luminaries from microsoft what's going on i would think uh... just from the top of my head cuz i know that they supported obama and they even though they're kind of semi-neutral i'm surprised that i think ellison was a republican but not but not sure whatever the case is i believe that the idea of amongst the microsoft people would be that we don't do that kind of thing cuz we were all bomb is just gonna come and visit us Oh, there's... oh right. Well, that's a good point. Bill Gates is probably like, I don't think so. Nah, did you have your shots yet, Barack? It wouldn't be... it would be beneath Gates to be at that event and Balmer would probably... he'd think the same thing. Right.

1:02:06 Wow, so the true... We'll do a special, you know, they'd be like totally up in Redmond and it wouldn't be any Silicon Valley. Wow. They don't see themselves as Silicon Valley company either. That's true, but also just like screw it, you know, you want to hang out with me? You gotta come to me, bitch. Wow. That's a very good assessment. You're probably right. Gates feels way above Obama, as do many of these elitists. Well, actually, there's some evidence that Gates feels that way and I have it on authority of somebody who had dinner with him once who actually is a friend that hangs out with him in certain situations and I was told the story that and he was with Melinda and that they were talking about who's more powerful in this one he was at Microsoft the President of the United States or Bill Gates and Bill at the table said me

1:03:00 and Melinda supposedly there's a story who knows but I believe it to be true it came from a great source Melinda gave him the gave him the old knee you know the old bang with his with her foot to tell him to shut up. Ixnay on the Illuminati eh Bill? Ixnay on the on the Ovegray Wow That doesn't mean that bill wouldn't go to certain kinds of events with other people. He's not that kind of guy I mean, he's pretty you know normal in some regards. I mean if it was like a big event to celebrate Some famous engineer or something. They was gonna give it a more right, but that's different I mean, he's not gonna get anywhere near that pleb Zuckerberg. You know, he's not a true. Oh, yeah Zuckerberg is sitting

1:03:49 Obama there's a lot of people aren't showing up. Yeah, it's like what he's not a reptile guy. Oh, is he sitting? Fuck you. I'm not oh yeah. Hey, you know what? Why don't you shit? Why'd you shape change for a second there shift shift there Zuckerberg? See you can't do that Wow. Yeah, that's pretty funny. Okay, I take that as a very valid Analysis, it's frightening but that's I guess that's just the way it is. Yeah, I I'm actually surprised Ellison was there. I think he probably was forced to be there by some PR person or something. I'm not sure. Hey, remember, speaking of El Presidente, remember Waka Flocka Flame? No. I shouldn't remember it, but why am I forgetting it? Waka Flocka Flame is the hip-hop guy who did the... He did the takeoff on Obama, the hip-hop video. Like, yeah, I'm the main homie. I'm your pimp.

CHAPTER 14 / 27 Discussion

Waka Flocka Flame and Political Hip-Hop Parody

A discussion regarding the hip-hop artist Waka Flocka Flame and a viral parody video titled "Head of the State" featuring an Obama lookalike. The video, which uses aggressive language to mock the president's "change" platform, is mentioned in the context of the artist reportedly being targeted in a shooting. The segment explores the intersection of political messaging and hip-hop culture.

waka flocka flame· baraka flocka flame· hip-hop· parody· obama

1:04:51 I played that on the for the show once don't remember it well play it oh I don't have it handy well no no it wasn't so much a lead-in as it was uh... that uh... he got shot at it's got shot at his arrests hip-hop guys get shot at all the time yeah i don't know but you know this is this particular hip-hop guy had a pretty strong political message saying that is true the president you know he's nothing but a big long long-legged mac daddy that was essentially his message and yet he's got a strong message that people care about this guy you know he's popular and you know we see uh...

1:05:37 but it was baraka flocker flame as the uh... he's known as walker flocker flame is baraka flocker flame i think i have a the you tube video i can play for a second you can hear it it's uh... show you i'm sure we played the maybe i'll be put on the show or or before the show almost like a here we go what is this crap and he looks just like barack obama in the video to by the way Completely dressed up like him. He's got the limos and he's driving to the hood. Here he is everybody! It's called Head of the State. Head of the motherfucking state nigga! I brought you change nigga! What the fuck you thinking nigga? I'm the shit that's what Michelle say. Secret Service but I'm down! See Hillary that motherfucking nigga! Hillary's my motherfucking nigga. Senate House killers!

1:06:47 Anyway, I think that pre-show might have been a pre-show but I think so yeah, but you know It's like they didn't catch anybody the police tried to pursue the the perps, but they got away. Yeah Yeah I'd say that's it. Well, you got to be careful man. You got to be careful because of course it's easy to rise a hip-hopper Of course you get shot at yeah, particularly whenever a politically loaded message be careful Yeah, probably not a good idea and while we're on the two to the head John Wheeler's widow has now come out John Wheeler being the guy who? Was disheveled and got off to you know the guy from miter

CHAPTER 15 / 27 Discussion

John Wheeler Murder Investigation and Widow's Claims

The widow of John Wheeler, a former presidential aide and MITER Corporation consultant found dead in a landfill, has publicly stated that her husband was the victim of a professional hit. She has challenged the official investigation and reported suspicious activity, including unauthorized credit card charges. The case remains a point of interest due to Wheeler's high-level security clearances and the unusual circumstances of his death.

john wheeler· murder· miter corporation· slate· conspiracy

1:07:40 Right, right, right you with me. Yeah. No, I just said always it was name. Yeah So as widow comes out and says, um, I guarantee you it was a hit and everyone's trying to discredit her now like oh, you know She shouldn't be she shouldn't be saying this. Well, why is she saying this? She's like, you know There's all kinds of weird interesting John all kinds of weird credit card charges are showing up on her credit card round-trip tickets from New York to Madrid Interesting, I'd be very careful if I were you. I'm trying to get out. Yeah. So she's come out and said this was definitely, definitely a hit. And she's been doing interviews about it. Slate wrote this up actually.

1:08:27 and uh... and she's very worried the police only just went into hit over what what what what was it her husband up to well we've kind of figured it out but we don't know and i we we don't actually know what he knew or the reason that uh... that he had to die but uh... for his wife or widow to come out and say uh... that he was hit is uh... pretty heavy i think i fear for her well we'll see it'll be a car accident as her car will uh... was chilled amateur radiator in the garage in the car will explode that could happen and tap is all that happens all the time and let's thank a couple people for supporting our show john it's not a lot this week again we were on the seesaw once again it's it's obvious that uh... many people spending their money on food maybe i don't think so if they are they should cut back

CHAPTER 16 / 27 Discussion

Listener Donations and SiriusXM Commercial Controversy

The program reviews a series of listener donations and messages, including a critique of SiriusXM for including commercials on paid tiers despite marketing the service as commercial-free. Donors from various locations, including Wisconsin, Alberta, and Texas, request "karma" for new business ventures and job searches. The hosts reiterate their commitment to a value-for-value model, rejecting traditional advertising in favor of direct listener support.

donations· siriusxm· howard stern· karma· listener support

1:09:28 Okay, let's go with John Atwood in Cotter, Arkansas. $119.88. And let me just do a quick thing here to clear something and move over this so I can read John Atwood's little message. uh... i got my xm radio bill which is a listen to since they prefer to download podcast smart guy and put on a thumb drive a listen to mom driving so here's what they were going to charge you for another year of news sports and talk jam packed with commercials you know what the charge away when a commercial i thought xm was supposed to be commercial free as we've had a subscription funny you mention that because uh... what's the guy uh... who who runs a show there uh...

1:10:13 Howard Stern no no no no no he's a well-known guy yeah anyway so they were down their numbers were down their financial numbers and the guy has the gall to say well you know at least people know that with us because they're making all these comparisons with us at least they know that they're paying to not hear commercials I'm like what a lie what a lie Yeah, it just says it right there in the investor conference call. Well, you know, it's down and people are cutting back here and there, it's the economy, but people value our service because they know that they're paying to not get commercials. But meanwhile, things jam-packed with commercials. It's just not true. We don't have any commercials on our show. Joshua Stoyer in Fond du Lac

1:11:04 Wisconsin, 75 bucks. In the morning, John Adams, listen to the show since episode one, way back in 2007, haven't missed one yet. Yes, I've been a douchebag for not donating until now, and eventually they come around. But here's $75 to help you out. I could really use some gold when they need karma, they come around. Get me out of the hellhole I work at. I'm on a hunt for a new job. Luck with that, I need all the help I can get. All right, here you come, some extra for you. You've got karma. Jeffrey Van Den in Calgary, Alberta, $71.94. Hey guys, it's review time soon so I could use some karma, another one, in hopes of a merit increase. And by the way, this karma's been working for some people according to them. I'm doing the number of my 10-10-10, number 218, coin X times 33 cents.

1:11:57 Your stick on the ice. That's where it belongs. You've got karma. I think Mickey said that to me the other day. Hey, put that thing on ice. Keep your stick on the ice. all elvis in uh... toronto ontario the we had to couple number of canadians today we get because we have no agenda dot c a now people are finding a a a rapid in fact is another third why should mention first which is joe cool design princeton ontario can under eleven dollars eleven cents within no particular comment and as paul elvis at work toronto ontario and he's got no comedy there which is showing the canadians are speaking with their money

1:12:38 Alexis Richardson, Chanate, Kansas, double niggles on the dime. He says, my name is Alexis, looks like a laxus, sorry, and I want to wish Clint Streckner, pronounced Straysner, that happy twenty-third birthday he's a little bit of a specific it's a great looks he's the one who got me started listening to a gender we've been together for over two years i decided on double nickels on the dime because the number seems to be disappearing among your donations and it was the most popular when i started listening calling us del g. i think i would say that alexis is uh... a female listener and you said he but i think it's uh... if uh... if alexis is uh... thanking uh...

1:13:24 I would say she he's a she what I only use the word he and refer reference to Clint right sure okay then I don't have to replay the tape do I no you don't believe me David Dietrich in Round Rock Texas double nickels on the dime Aaron Zempel good job anonymous sorry I wish that we just blank that box out monis Michigan double nickels on the dime And he says, I'm logging on to my, oh this is funny. I'm logging on to my husband's PayPal account to donate in honor of all the other female listeners to the show. No wonder he didn't want to be called out. Call out any douche-ettes who aren't donating. Love them. Or love Aaron from Alternate Acre. P.S. Adam, I'd love to hear you.

1:14:19 P.S. Adam, I'd love to hear you sing over the jingles. See, immediately you go mocking the few female listeners we have. I won't even say what else you've done wrong here. And it's Erin from Alternative Acres. Erin, thank you very much and let me de-douche you and hit you with some karma at the same time. You've been de-douched. You've got karma. I wasn't giving her a bad time. She obviously has some sort of crush on you. Yeah, well, it's not hard to understand. Mark who deck in Eastern Passage, Nova Scotia another Canadian this can it Canada Day? Originally, I was one of the few who purchased the 1010 10 coin that was over the 100 or so coins I was limited to Eric and emailed me and told me his this and asked what I should like done I told not to worry about I figured the two of you are getting screwed up somehow a little bit well You know what I said, that's a guarantee. We're getting screwed somehow all the time

1:15:15 To my surprise, the coin was on my desk at work that day. I must say, the coin really does look wonderful. Here's a $55 donation for being three, I am including Eric, stand up guys, three stand up guys. Keep up with the great show. Oh, thank you. That's very sweet. You didn't have to do that, obviously. And that was, man, I have to scroll down. Mark. That was Mark. Mark, and now there's Elizabeth here. Here we go. Wappinger Falls, here we go, but she's not saying anything about your singing. $52.18. Wow, that's a long note. Let's see what we got here. My other half and I are avid listeners. We both donated previously. I am part of the 0.05% that is female and a donator.

1:16:03 array i'm currently a five dollar subscription ever upgrades in the distillation comes with a prediction turn to pick those of eyes in the shadows you see i am not a boot on the ground or ham in the air yet but i live in a town overflowing with completely distracted slaves and cringe from the shadows She's got some links too that she sent us in there. It seems earlier today in Poughkeepsie, New York, a man and his wife had a domestic dispute in front of their child while waiting to board a train in the middle of the afternoon. The dispute is cited to have ended with the man pulling out a gun while on the train platform, shooting and killing his wife as events unfolded. then some for the police was police officers killed and she goes on to a predict essentially that uh... if anybody thinks that the tsa is not going to get involved with this kind of yeah i've got a pretty right i've actually got her note to help with that in the show notes you can read is an interesting reading about the kids in general which is kind of a interesting place as you don't have to go to the whole no but thank you very much elizabeth that's very kind of you and it's nice to see more of our listeners of the female persuasion uh...

1:17:02 donating to the show even if you are hacking your husband's PayPal account Aaron which is we encourage that for all of you that's very good if we call it a very good idea you know what the guy won't even notice Anyway, she give us 50 to $52 and 18 cents and we got a couple of our regulars or actually there's a new guy Well, no, it's a regular Bradley sir boo in this Florida $50 George Vanderhorst $50 and then we have Coming up last on the list, but not least Chris Galen. No, come on do it right Chris? Gaelin That's wrong healing healing healing

1:17:47 Dear John, in episode 279 you said I hated you. I do not. I do not at all. I'm a big fan of yours. I've been for ages. I just want to help you out for your next visit to Belgium. I just need some French fries when I go there. Please come soon as we might not exist much longer. That's a possibility. So here's lesson two of Dutch 101. Wat voor verwaarde het van dag? Het gaat regenen minder, hapt u een paraplu Zilch. That's very good. That's very good. Very, very good. What'd I say? You don't want to know. Oh.

1:18:30 Well, hopefully we didn't get Dutch donors here. The main thing that this note says to me is we really have, and this is a message to Eric the Shill, we really need to get on our baronies and start cutting up Gitmo Nation because he's right. I mean, this is, Gitmo Nation sprouts is now on record the longest country in the civilized world without a government. and uh... it's it's a i would call that a problem you know they they had a contest on uh... on twitter of all places uh... baron von pelz marker sent this to me uh... come up with the best song for uh... for the current of uh... state of the government in belgium and that people were tweeting their answers i have a couple of them here uh... we have uh... stupid safari

1:19:21 You too, with or without Gov. We have Just Can't Get No Gov from Depeche Mode. This is a No Gov song from Public Image Limited. No Gov No Cry from Bob Marley. Smells Like No Gov Nirvana. No Gov, Buddy No Gov, you too. No Gov Today, Herman's Hermits. They're creative there in Belgium. Yeah, absolutely. so that wraps up uh... unfortunately that wraps up at the giving levels that uh... you support us with this week uh... not as good as uh... we hope that to be but we know that you're doing the best you can and everything you can do it more is obviously appreciate it or channel the war dot com uh... we uh... do not take commercials nor will we ever we'd rather just not do the show because it interrupts and we wouldn't be able to talk about things we talk about on this program

1:20:14 and we're not corrupted like every other media including your public media which is probably the most corrupt in the worst as a please consider supporting the show nine any form you can we've got our two hundred eighty one club open of course our monthly programs if you go to the war dot com dot org slash n a is we can see all the multiple programs you can sign up for if you're gonna hit us with a larger amount which we really appreciate need also consider signing up for eleven eleven eleven dollars eleven cents uh... a month program and so we can continue to bring you this programming and the type of insight that you'll get nowhere else and at least we call it out or as Anderson Cooper would say, keepin' em honest. We're keepin' em honest. Keepin' em honest. He's got an email by the way from, before we go to the birthday and knighthood, from Alexander Omhoff, one of our listeners in the chat room and he says there's proof, he's got proof from Google that such a thing as a travel document or transportation letter

CHAPTER 17 / 27 Discussion

Knighthood Ceremony for Sir Snortastain

A formal knighthood is bestowed upon a listener known as Snortastain, who is recognized for his consistent financial support of the show. Residing near the North Pole, the newly dubbed Sir Snortastain requested a playing of the national anthem to mark the occasion. The ceremony concludes with the hosts welcoming him to the "No Agenda Roundtable."

knighthood· snortastain· north pole· national anthem· roundtable

1:21:14 when a permanent resident of the United States for some reason is without documents. Yeah. Yeah. Why don't you print that out and take that to passport control, see how you do. And make sure you've got a hotel room for the next show because we're going to need it. I'm gonna sing along. It's a birthday, birthday on no agenda. There you go. So, uh, quick birthdays. Alexis Richardson says happy birthday to Clint Strasner, Happy 23rd birthday today and we'd also like to congratulate our

1:21:51 Our new knight who will be knighting momentarily his birthday is tomorrow up there in North Pole and Santa Claus land Snortastain happy birthday from your buddies at no agenda And let's get out a hey get your stick off the ice for a second John we we need it here Can you I have to bring this small one? It's such a pain with the TSA Snortastain step forward my friend there with your bearskin boots As he's up way up north He's been diligently supporting the show, his giving levels have been tallied up and now sufficient to become a Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable. So, Snorta Stain here by I-19. Sir Snorta Stain of the No Agenda Roundtable. Come on over and have some hookers and blow here at the Knight table.

1:22:41 And he had a little note with his With his knighthood he said hey for a request. Oh, he first he said I was at my cabin today You know he takes the snowmobile and the rifles as he speeds on up He's always sending me beautiful pictures from up of the North Pole says that two sets of polar bear tracks around exciting weekend ahead haven't heard from him since by the way and and along with that along with my knighthood it would be very nice to hear our national anthem again it has been a while and i agree and uh... well when a night to calls out for request like that how can we refuse the Human resources and servants in all lands and all ships at sea. From the east to west, down under to the lowlands and beyond. We are hand-distracted slaves. Hear our hyponation song. In the home of the brave.

CHAPTER 18 / 27 Discussion

Chilean Miner Rescue Staging and Trade Deficit

New reports suggest that the 2010 rescue of 33 Chilean miners included pre-recorded footage used during the "live" broadcast to ensure a flawless presentation. Additionally, claims have surfaced regarding the presence of contraband, including marijuana and pornography, in the mine prior to the rescue. In economic news, the U.S. trade deficit expanded by 33% in December, driven largely by record-level imports from China.

chilean miners· rescue· trade deficit· china· media staging

1:24:54 I think they pushed Larry out. Yeah, of course they did. They wanted to get some... a lot of Brits on TV. A whole bunch of Brits on TV. We need a Brit. Quick few magic numbers which are worth mentioning. Boy, we've had... Well, before... Okay, go on. Just a couple. It won't hurt you. The trade gap has widened in December. It swells to 33%. Oh, there's a little message there. And trade gap. Yeah. Trade gap with or just the world trade gap, the trade gap with China or what? Well I can check this out. The, it's probably the, well I guess it's the trades. Is it just in and out, in and outgoing trade gap? Isn't that what it is? I guess. That must be it, yeah. Hold on, I'm opening up the article now. It's getting worse.

1:25:45 Yeah, it swelled 33%. U.S. trade deficit widened in December to its highest level in four months, the government said on Friday in a report that also showed the annual trade gap expanded nearly 33% as 2010 imports from China hit record levels. So of course China's in there, but a little message there. 33%, whoo! and uh... there's been a couple reports which i i didn't get to this is the thirty three minors you recall that uh... on the very day uh... that the mothership was supposed to appear they had this saying is i i now i gotta watch of these miners so there was a there was two very funny things did you know that in that so-called live broadcast they actually had a whole bunch of pre-recorded video that was rolling this is now come out uh... one of the uh...

1:26:35 uh... one of the women who was there wrote a book about this and she said you know there was something went wrong with the uh... the pegasus another fine new world order uh... and naming convention there the pegasus pod and they didn't want to know screw it up because this was supposed to be the big glorious moment the thirty three chileans coming out of the mine and so they were reran tape during the live broadcast never like took a long time they basically just did they they lied to us really so it's like one of those big parades where they just go around the block and get back in line and walk past the stands or like the moon landing your choice but there was another little problem uh... they had uh... marijuana and porn down there had to clean it all up before they brought them up they were sitting down there they had uh... they had uh... weed and uh... porn

1:27:31 No wonder they were like, hey, I don't want to go out, man. It's good down here. It's going to be bright. It's going to be really bright. Oh, wow. So the thing malfunctioned and then when the public was with the news media surrounding this event, the thing you're telling me this. The media is giving us a live broadcast of this rescue and the thing malfunctions but they decide for whatever reason not to show us that and just fake it. Correct. What was the point of this?

1:28:15 Well the point was, A, probably ratings to keep you watching. Well I think, don't you think you'd want to watch more if it was busted? Yeah but I think that they were actually worried that it wouldn't happen, that something would go wrong. So they were going to go through with the whole thing and bring up all 33, which is the same guy coming up and down and up and down on a loop and pretend they're all up when there's 29 of them or whatever back in the bottom. What were they going to do if the thing never worked right? Well, obviously it was, I think it was probably planned for it all to work right. So basically it was a big staged show. Yeah, well this is exactly, and I told you why it was a staged show, but yeah, it was a staged show.

CHAPTER 19 / 27 Discussion

Prince William and Kate Middleton Wedding Guest List

Details regarding the upcoming royal wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton reveal a guest list of approximately 1,900 people. The breakdown includes 900 members of the royal family and heads of state, while the remaining 1,000 are reportedly friends of Kate Middleton. The event is discussed as a significant media distraction from global political unrest.

prince william· kate middleton· royal wedding· guest list· bbc

1:28:59 Let me uh, let me find the uh... Well that is kind of real news, it was a, you know... But you know, play the real news thing again. Okay... And now, back to real news. So I have to ask you this. Since you have visited with the Queen... Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Wait a minute! Ask Adam... Okay. Oh, that one was not the best. It sounded like an alien was saying, ask Adam. So uh...

1:29:36 i've heard you get invited to the wedding i haven't been in the mailbox in two days uh... maybe it's there now of course not some look at them was his biggest bunch of the bbc's all over the discourse the it's important so they do it in a nineteen hundred guests yeah he may be did those who do not following it closely enough we're doing we're talking about is what's his name in caitlin middleton uh... bonnie prince charlie or Harry or Jim I don't know who's the guy that's Jim is Jim Jim and Kate Prince Jim Prince Royal His Royal Highness ladies and gentlemen ladies and gentlemen His Royal Highness Prince Jim of Wales okay so apparently so they think

1:30:30 So there's going to be all the members of parliament and the royal family and heads of state from a bunch of different people which is going to total, this is the way it's breaking down, 900 people are coming from the royal family, Prince Jim's and a bunch of heads of state and a few lords and a couple members of I guess the House of Commons. Obama isn't invited as far as I know. Probably not but that's 900 and then the other 1000 Kate Middleton's friends. Oh hell yeah.

1:31:11 Her girls. That's the way it breaks down. Yeah, her girls, absolutely. How many people have a thousand friends? It doesn't make any sense to me. I have a thousand friends on Facebook. Maybe that is all her Facebook friends. Maybe that's who's coming. You should have friended her then. Maybe she posted an event on Facebook. So why is anybody interested in this? Duh. Duh! The distraction of the week on the Woolwoods agenda Don't throw your shoes Did you know that there's riots going on in, you know, these same kind of, you know, universal riots going on in Russia right now? Yes I do. In fact, Gorbachev, what did he say? I have it here.

CHAPTER 20 / 27 Discussion

Global Unrest and Military Crowd Control Technology

Mikhail Gorbachev has warned that Russia could face an Egypt-style uprising due to dissatisfaction with the Kremlin's governance. Protests have also targeted Barclays bank in Britain over tax avoidance issues. In response to global instability, the U.S. Army is reportedly planning to deploy machine guns capable of firing rubber bullets for more effective crowd control during violent demonstrations.

gorbachev· russia· egypt· barclays· rubber bullets· crowd control

1:32:11 Under what color is your revolution? I think it was Gorbachev said yeah Gorbachev warrants of Egypt style Russian revolt Why? I mean, these things seem, by the way, as far as I'm concerned, every time I see one, they all look like this. They look like cookie cutter revolts. I mean, obviously, I don't know who, you know, if it's our people or somebody behind them. Let's not forget that you said it exactly right. They look like cookie cutter revolts. They are being portrayed by our media as cookie cutter revolts. I think that is what you need to look at, is how they're being shown on television.

1:32:54 You're not actually there, you're not actually boots on the ground. I'm getting very different reports from people who are boots on the ground than from what's being shown on television. So, you know, what you're seeing may not be the, gee, big surprise there. Big surprise. I mean, you know, you sat there and watched and waited for 33 Chilean miners to come out and you were watching a rerun. So what do you know? Yeah, no, you have to make the assumption that it's something's fake, something's phony, something's bogus. You know what I think? I think that what is really happening everywhere except Gitmo Nation United States, because we do have, I mean let's face it, Rod Stewart just had a new baby, I mean gotta go home and watch E! News. How old is that guy? Yeah, really? He doesn't have his stick on the ice.

1:33:51 But what's I think everywhere around the world people are revolting because they're sick and tired of this crap. They are literally sick, literally tired, they're malnourished, they're overworked. and they're tired of their elites running the show and they're waking up and they're figuring it out and they're taken to the streets and they're pissed off. In Britain, I mean, it's happening everywhere. After the news came out that Barclays, after posting multi-billion pound profits, only paid 113 million in taxes, The uppity slaves of Gitmo Nation East went, oh really? And they just blocked all the Barclays banks. They just said we're having a sit-in. Screw you! You're not going to do any business here. Are you out of your mind? Of course that doesn't get any play. We can't have it look like there's an actual revolt here.

1:34:41 Oh, man. I'm telling you, it's happening everywhere. Gorbachev, who said he's ashamed of the way Russia is run today, warned that the Kremlin could face an Egypt-style uprising. Oh, you mean a... Egypt-style uprising! Lambasted the Kremlin for eroding the free media elections. People are not entirely stupid. Really, John. They just aren't. But I think that they are being portrayed as pretty stupid on television. And of course the only thing we can talk about here is about the CBS news reporter who was sexually assaulted. That's the whole conversation. That's the only thing that's important. And of course you can't go against that because you get emails like, hey man if that was your wife or your daughter you wouldn't talk that way. You're missing the point. You're totally missing the point.

1:35:37 So we're being duped. You and I are being duped. Oh, yeah, we always assume that. Just turn off the TV because what you're seeing is not reality. You're not seeing the real story and the world is in revolt. I really think it is. And they're getting ready here. They've got the FEMA camps ready. The US Army has just said, hey we want permission to use machine gun rubber bullets for crowd control. Machine gun rubber bullets is great. Yeah, I mean, why bother with a single shot man? That's a pain in the ass. Just mow them down.

1:36:12 Mow them down. Those things, most of those rubber bullets are actually steel bullets coated with rubber. You get killed by one of those things blinded for sure. Yeah, US Army is planning to field rubber bullets for machine guns. Military officials claim the ammunition will allow them to more effectively quell violent protests without loss of human life. Yeah. It's funny. This is just funny. It is funny. I advise people to stay away from these protests. We can't and don't listen to what John says. We have to have violent protests or nothing will ever change. That's what Matt Damon said in that movie. Matt's going to be there with us. I think we've agreed on that earlier in the show so you've changed your mind already.

CHAPTER 21 / 27 Discussion

HBGary Email Leak and FBI Encryption Backdoors

A massive leak of emails from security firm HBGary has exposed the company's tactics for infiltrating social networks and manipulating online personas. Simultaneously, FBI General Counsel Valerie Caproni has expressed concerns about the "going dark" problem caused by encrypted communications. The FBI is pushing for mandatory backdoors in digital services like Skype to ensure government access to plain-text data.

hbgary· fbi· valerie caproni· encryption· skype· surveillance

1:36:59 A lot of people wanted us to talk, it's a little complicated but there's two things going on with the state of Spy Nation America. One is this HB Gary company. uh... and apparently a whole slew of emails of theirs that was released on the internet and it shows how they've been infiltrating social networks have been breaking into people's computers uh... trying to bring down uh... anyone doing anything essentially it's it's the counterintelligence and you should go you should read these articles are posted links them in the show notes no jenna show dot com nothing new here by the way uh... but you know at g i haven't heard cnn talk about it

1:37:36 Interestingly enough, they've got online persona management services which companies sell to them. So, you know, what they do is they get like 50 different profiles on Facebook and then they man, you know, you can, one guy can manage 50 different profiles and, you know, basically manipulate a social network crowd into doing something or going somewhere. So, yeah, really, we didn't expect that. Yeah, that's just a shocker. Anyone would dream that one up. But I'll be watching C-SPAN today. So I'll have a... Wait a minute, maybe it's Thursday, not today. When was this posted? 17th? Maybe it's already out there. I've got to find this. The FBI, in particular General Counsel Valerie Caproni of the Caproni crime family,

1:38:32 uh... is uh... calling it has a they say we've got a problem is going dark problem uh... i e you know people like adam curry and uh... people listen to no agenda sending pgp encrypted emails back and forth is a real problem and uh... they want every single uh... device manufacturer it look if you want to have encryption that's fine as long as you can be handed to us in plain text is literally the quote from her uh... they want back doors and everything Skype, everything has to have a backdoor so the FBI can get in and you know what? They're gonna push this through. It's gonna happen. It will happen. Well, this has been going on since the 90s and it hasn't happened yet. Yeah, but Lucy's in charge now my friend. There's a new sheriff in town. So, and there's more and more digital inspections now at customs and it'll be interesting to see you come back without your passport.

1:39:37 Where they copy your hard drive and this is legal of course we've been through this we've discussed this on the show completely legal But it's now almost standard operating procedure to just copy your drive just in case you know just to protect you from terrorists Yeah, it's protecting me. So we'll have to see what happens when you come back yeah, that can interesting because it's gonna be with it with a different document and I also have the, there's also going to be a hassle because the, I'm sure passport control on the Spanish side is going to have something to say. I know exactly what they're going to say. No service for you! You know, this will make these guys suffer another day or two. So that'll be a hassle.

CHAPTER 22 / 27 Discussion

French Multiculturalism and the Rise of No-Go Zones

A documentary-style report examines the failure of multiculturalism in France, highlighting the existence of 751 "sensitive urban zones" or no-go zones where state authority is limited. Intellectuals and journalists interviewed in the segment warn of a potential local civil war as ethnic and religious tensions rise. The discussion touches on the outlawing of the veil and the influence of Sharia law in predominantly Muslim neighborhoods like those in Marseille.

france· multiculturalism· islam· sharia law· no-go zones· civil war

1:40:34 Well I was gonna say, I have two, since I knew that you weren't gonna have clips, I have two longer clips that I thought were interesting to listen to and it might be just fun to change the format a little bit and just like three minutes each, two separate topics and just listen to them, both propaganda but different propaganda than we're used to. well you need to set it up yeah so the first one you know i'm uh... as i was talking about last week on the show about uh... this uh... budapest cybercrime convention and hillary clinton's internet freedom i got a very thoughtful note from one of our two listeners and get more nation stinky cheese from tristan and he says you know is so interesting i was listening to you guys talk about that and i have you know and i think i came to the realization that this is already so in place in france

1:41:25 you can't say anything about Muslims, your website gets taken down, people get arrested for this stuff and I've just kind of become used to it and he says you kind of jarred me awake by reminding me and this is really a huge problem but it's going really unreported in France because you can't say anything, you can't say hey these Muslims are a problem and they're scaring me This is against the Budapest Convention, where this thing, this is the Council of Europe, so this was enacted in 2005, is when it was ratified in Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe. And he said, you know, it really, it happens before you know it, and he says, you know, you've got to warn people about this. And I get this video.

1:42:11 Which is from I think it's this the you know like a Christian broadcasting company. I think we've Showed a video of this guy before but this one goes a little bit further. It's documentary style. They interview a number of French Intellectuals now I have no idea who they are I don't know the validity of these guys or not, but the story tells a story uh... of france which i don't you don't think of this when you think of france not i think you and i both know two things one there's all there's been a huge european multicultural push i know this from my own experience in the netherlands where it has failed and uh... you go to get my nation lowlands and you know it's hushed undertones and was like well you know you know the moroccan sir that's a little bit of a problem

1:42:58 but you can't really talk about it because then you know you're Geert Wilders and then you're a racist. But in France it's been ongoing for many many years and we've seen some of the riots coming out of the neighborhoods that are predominantly Muslim. But I wanted to play this little piece and is that okay with you? We just listen to it and then discuss it afterwards? play and discuss. In the northern district of Paris, a brave shopkeeper named Marie Neige Sardine guards her little newsstand like a military fort. Remember, this is propaganda, okay? It's religious propaganda, but I think there are some factoids in here that are interesting and I won't interrupt. As a white woman, she is a minority in this mostly Arab-speaking Muslim area. She's been the victim of dozens of crimes. She's been raped, robbed, and had acid thrown at her.

1:43:50 She says it's a campaign to get her to leave, but Nege, the daughter of a French soldier, calls her little shop a piece of French soil inside occupied territory. And she says she will not leave. I can't bear to tell my future grandchildren that I have done nothing to preserve our French values, so staying here is marking our territory. German Chancellor Angela Merkel now admits that multiculturalism has failed. British Prime Minister David Cameron has said it too, and they were talking specifically about immigrants from the Muslim world. The left's multicultural dream in Europe was to give Islam a special place in society with no requirement to assimilate. Multiculturalism has encouraged Muslim radicalism and Sharia law. It's leading to a new tribalism with groups organizing along religious and ethnic lines.

1:44:42 In cities across Europe, only the police stand in the way of open street warfare between groups. In Paris, in Sweden, in Denmark and in Britain. France has some 751 no-go zones. The French government labels them sensitive urban zones. But what they are is dangerous to whites and non-Muslims who enter. French intellectual Guy Millier. It means that it's part of the country where the police don't go, the firemen don't go, and even doctors and ambulance don't go.

1:45:22 They accepted they had no other choice. And it's like that because these parts of the country are in the hands of drug traffickers, gangs and imams. And that's led to the formation of groups who oppose Islam and want to protect the white native French. The leader of one of those groups, Philippe Vardone of Bloc Identitaire, told me they're training their members in hand-to-hand combat. He sees a dark future. Now our government, our politics are leading us to war. Vardon complains that the white majority is treated like a minority by the government, marginalized politically and victimized by immigrant crime. So there is in one end the political speech saying okay, everything is okay, oh it's so good to feel the difference, to live together, it's communion, it's perfect.

1:46:12 On the other hand, you got the truth of what people are feeling. They are feeling like if they were themselves foreigners in their own country. France has made some high-profile moves against Islamization, such as outlawing the veil. But in Marseille, we saw Muslim women wearing full burkas in front of French police officers who did nothing. And we saw Muslims blocking the streets illegally for Friday prayers. Marseille is France's second city and today is one quarter Muslim. But there are parts of Marseille like this area that are almost completely Muslim. Some of the no-go zones function as micro-states and are governed by or under the influence of Islamic Sharia law.

1:46:54 French journalist and author Alexander Delval. I asked Delval where he thinks the situation is headed. It's very simple to know it. It's a civil war. It will not be a real civil war like in Spain during Franco, you know, in those years. No, it will be a kind of local civil wars. I think one day it will be so unbearable, this situation, that the state will be obliged to send the army. There are today in Europe many victims of multiculturalism like Marie-Neige Sardin.

1:47:35 People without political voices, people afraid to leave their homes. Marie told us she could not just surrender. Do we want our daughters to wear veils in the future? Do we want them to live under Sharia law? Do we want stoning to be practiced? No, it is not possible. I want to be the symbol of no, the symbol of stop. So, we have no agenda on this show and this is obvious propaganda but you can't ignore some of the facts that are being told here which I think is just interesting. Yeah, well the one fact is that woman should move. She should consider moving. That's a good point.

1:48:18 I agree. In fact, I was going to make one of my predictions on this show that because of all these the event that's supposed to happen in Spain at the 30th of February. Yeah, I think it's France that's going to have some, you know, once these riots go from place to place, kind of like riot time. I think the French are going to have some, you know, they've done it before. They've already had a couple of practice rounds. uh... with the suburb riots out of sight of paris and muslims have done you know got carried away and burning placed at on uh... i think that's gonna happen again it only stirs more now and it's going to be i think i think the the good that did one commentator was correct i think they're going to bring the army and it's going to be a good uh... you know start to uh... take care of some of these people in some way shape or form and uh... that woman will be in the middle of she's gonna get killed

1:49:13 well the did these types of messages propaganda or not are coming out of more countries this is what this is what he had builders are saying about get my nation lowlands and uh... and a large percent of the population voted for it with it whether you think he's good or not people voted for him for his basic message and he's now of course being sued for hate speech against uh... the uh... the religion of Islam I think I'm not sure the exact details. Yeah, something like that. This is definitely doing something wrong. Well I think the you know the this has gotten kind of out of control because of the the

CHAPTER 23 / 27 Discussion

Spanish Infrastructure and EU Funding Waste

Observations from a trip to Toledo, Spain, reveal high-quality infrastructure projects, such as toll roads, funded by the European Union that remain largely unused by the local population. Despite the modern facilities, Spain faces severe economic challenges and high unemployment. The segment also includes a personal anecdote about hiring domestic help in California and the prevalence of undocumented labor in the service industry.

spain· toledo· european union· infrastructure· toll roads· unemployment

1:49:54 I think, I mean, as Cameron and I guess Merkel both said, this multi-culti thing has been kind of backfiring and I think it backfires in the United States on some level because the United States was never multicultural. It was supposed to be a big melting pot even though it never fully was but at least that was the goal. and there are lots of cultures that came over the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, who everybody hated them, but they did what they could to absorb themselves into the society as a whole. They wouldn't let their kids speak Italian, they had to speak English all the time. Now you're bilingual in California with everybody speaking Mexican. I have to go learn Spanish, I mean if I want to get by in California, and you're right in the middle of it. Oh no, we have the same, we have the same.

1:50:43 Luckily, Vicky speaks Spanish. I don't speak a word. So, yeah, but I'm good at deciphering. I can hear pretty well. So you can boss the housekeeper around then, right? No, I don't boss the housekeeper. She's really sweet. She's sweet. Aha! You do have a Mexican housekeeper. Yes, I do. I didn't know that. Yes, I do. Well, of course. Yeah, what are you going to do? So, but anyway, it's going to shake out. The real thing that's going to happen, I'm convinced of it, and being here in Spain is very obvious because there's all this unemployment. And everybody, by the way, whenever I joke about it with any Brit or any Spanish guy

1:51:24 Either one, I say the same thing and it's so obvious to me and they say yep you're right. Which is that Spain and I assume the same with Portugal has soaked the EU for all the money they could get to fix the place up and I'm telling you the place is fixed up. It's I mean it's fantastic you know they got new roads, this they got new that. I went out to Toledo which is a town historic capital of Spain some the 10th century 11th century I guess and Garcia was with me, a couple people from Twit, and showing us around. And we needed to get back, and so he said, you want to come go faster? There's a toll road that they built with EU money. I swear to God, this toll road is 80 kilometers long. Yeah, it's beautiful. I know. You've been on it? Yep. The toll road on the way back to Spain, it's four-lane, beautiful highway, absolutely top drawer.

1:52:25 there was not, except at the very end, there was not one car on our side in front of us or behind us for 80 kilometers. Right. Which is about 60 miles. 60 miles, we were the only car on the road. On the other side coming our way, three cars went by. Now Garcia says, well you know, nobody wants to take this road because you have to pay and nobody's got any money. So they won't pay the five bucks and it turns out that the road was built knowing this was going to happen but the government guaranteed a certain profit no matter if anybody took the road or not. And locally apparently some guy got a ticket by some police guy on this giant road, on this toll road for doing like 160 or something like that.

1:53:12 kilometers to an hour and he went and fought it in court and he says what he says the reason for the speeding laws is to protect other people to get in a you know there's a bunch of reasons it's for public safety he says there's nobody on this road who am I hurting by doing going 160 and the judge Found I gave it to him. Yeah, you're right There's no cops on this thing either anymore because it was the point I just want to make a point to the chat room. I don't have like a full-time housekeeper Okay, is a lady and her daughter come in on Fridays and they vacuum and clean stuff It's not like I would like hey, we're our donations go to Adam slaves. Yeah, please and

1:53:54 And yes, you know we can't... Yes, she is here illegally. Yes, I'm sure she's in illegal because I remember quite just because Mickey was like no I don't want to give these people... The fact of the matter is it's all you can afford. Yeah exactly. Good point. Mickey said, could you please bring your passport? I just want to make a copy, know who I'm dealing with even though it was recommended by our landlady, you know the porn queen. I'm in great shape here everybody. Yeah, I'm renting from a pornographer. I'm renting a house known as the Vivid Entertainment Set and I've got an illegal cleaning my house once a week. Yeah, I'm living up to high life here. Anyway, so she came in, yeah, I don't have a passport. Alright. We pay in cash, okay? I don't give her blankets or water. I just give her my cash. Jesus.

1:54:48 You know, so I was talking to Mimi the other day and she was telling me about how Missouri, Missouri apparently has all these illegal immigrant laws that are extremely onerous. like ten times more than what Arizona was doing and it's gotten zero publicity and it was it's always it was actually in play when Arizona was making a big fuss and she was saying I don't understand why why everyone's a big fuss about Arizona nobody said crap about Missouri and I said because there's no drugs running through Missouri they have to keep the drug routes open and they have to keep Arizona this calm down. I am blown away by our producers today John

CHAPTER 24 / 27 Discussion

Salt Institute Claims and the Obesity Epidemic

A representative from the Salt Institute argues that federal dietary guidelines recommending low salt intake may be counterproductive and discriminatory. Research from Harvard Medical School is cited, suggesting that low-salt diets can increase insulin resistance, a precursor to type 2 diabetes. Furthermore, the theory posits that reducing salt leads to increased caloric consumption as the body attempts to satisfy its innate salt appetite, potentially worsening the obesity crisis.

salt institute· sodium· obesity· diabetes· insulin resistance· dietary guidelines

1:55:26 This is like some crazy thing to have someone come in and clean your house once a week. Is that like an elitist thing now? Am I now an elite? No, it's actually pretty common, especially in California. I mean, really? Wow. Unbelievable. No, that's just the chatroom. It is not just the chatroom. Last time I went into the chatroom, I got kicked out. Yeah, really. Man, it's like you got kicked out by Eric. That was even funnier. that's not him take a bow alright i got another piece of propaganda like to share with you that was very well all was done as propaganda obviously a very well done piece of propaganda but you know there's probably go to the right this way the immune gets tidbits out of these things as long as you know you're dealing with so this other bit of tidbit comes from uh... a guy who made no uh... uh... secret of the fact that he's from the salt institute

1:56:26 and uh... he comes out and this is at the uh... the press club and he comes out and uh... he does the speeches a scientist of home on the second and he says you know these uh... national dietary guidelines that uh... have been put out there and of course being propagated by the first lady he says actually it will have an exact opposite result it will make people more obese it'll cause more diabetes and uh... this is a shorter clip of a minute seventeen remember this is propaganda the guys from the salt institute and he goes into a lot of you know he had this has nothing to do with the fact that i'm from the salt institute uh... but uh... if you go to the salt institute website they do have all the links to the to the research in the documents uh... and i thought it was very interesting because of course the whole idea is we need to lower our we are blood pressure if you want to lower it uh... less salt

1:57:27 and you'll be much healthier for it that is the entire push from the current administration and he says you know what it's discriminatory because for some people it actually has exactly the opposite effect and I'll let him explain exactly how all this works but what you haven't been told is that although 30% of the population will drop their blood pressure 2 to 6 millimeters, 20% of the population, by reducing salt by two-thirds, will increase their blood pressure by 2 to 6 millimeters. Because our response to salt and salt reduction is heterogeneous. Now, and the rest of the 50% of the population won't show any effect at all.

1:58:15 So have, in fact, have the dietary guidelines become an instrument of discriminatory policy where one portion of the population will apparently benefit to some extent, even if it's very small, while another portion of the population is made to suffer? I mean this is a conundrum that has never been discussed in the dietary guidelines and the evidence is there. By the way, I want to say something. That this paper is up on the Salt Institute website and I think it will probably be on the Western Press. Do you think that's true? That for some people it actually is. He says that sodium is heterogeneous.

1:58:52 I didn't quite understand the terminology there. Well, I mean there has been some studies recently that show that the sodium thing is overblown as we talked about on this show a couple times and we discussed the studies and I think they're linked somewhere. Yeah, first of all I want to say there's the oil industry, there's the Sol Institute, there's the soybean people. Everybody has their little group that does research that's kind of biased toward promoting what they sell. But it doesn't mean they're wrong. And then you have oil companies, Global Warming, there's all their studies, they're just trying to screw us because they want to sell more oil, they don't care about the public.

1:59:32 uh... is not necessarily the case i mean some of these guys actually have more money to do better studies and yes some of the drug companies make squash the studies we come out weird and is that but but the fact of the matter is you can go a hundred percent against somebody that's promoting their their business because what what are they supposed to do just shut up yeah slave So they have to say something, especially when they honestly believe that, and I think these people are sincere and I suspect this guy is, yeah it makes sense to me. Well, so this is a two-parter. So that was kind of the scientific part. But then he starts to throw some common sense out there. I'm like, wow, this is very interesting. Listen to this. Based my concerns on the peer-reviewed evidence. Of course, it's like climbing the gate here. Peer-reviewed! Yeah, okay, whatever. But listen to his theory. That the Salt Institute did not support or write, but is out there in the scientific literature and that has been ignored by the dietary guidelines.

2:00:36 For instance, a recent report came out of Harvard Medical School, let me see if I can get that one out, yeah, of Harvard Medical School linking reduced salt intakes to an increase in insulin resistance. The condition that's a precursor to type 2 diabetes. The title of the paper doesn't really mince words, Low Salt Diets Increase Insulin Resistance in Healthy Subjects. Healthy people were placed on a low salt diet and developed insulin resistance within seven days of going on that low salt diet. The other half of the group, which was placed on a regular salt diet, also healthy, did not develop any negative consequences.

2:01:20 seven days is just about an immediate response so there's another piece of this which we don't have where he says that this is a big problem when all people go into an old old folks home they immediately reduce their salt intake and this is why because that that does all kinds of stuff to your bones and this is why you have so many hip and ankle and and other fractures at uh... retirement homes is because that there's they immediately go to a a low sodium diet Now, now listen to his logic which I thought was very interesting. ...to going on a low-salt diet. Now wouldn't you think that such dramatic clinical evidence coming from such an authoritative source would be seriously considered in making recommendations to the American public? And it wasn't. According to the latest evidence, the recommended reduction in salt intake may very well promote an epidemic of diabetes to accompany the epidemic that we now have of obesity.

2:02:18 And speaking of the obesity epidemic, the reduced salt guidelines will worsen, not improve the ongoing obesity crisis. Now this may sound counterintuitive to a number of people, but please let me explain. People will consume more calories just to satisfy their innate salt appetite. We have decades of animal feeding experience as a foundation for this statement and a great deal of salt, as a matter of fact, as much salt goes into the animal feeding world as goes into consumer salt. showing, well, what we do there is in fact we add salt to certain feeds to make sure that animals don't consume too much of them. And if we want them to eat more feed, what we do is remove the salt.

2:03:08 So, aside from salt, we have many, many other examples that we could look at. When light beer was produced, people drank more, of course. When we cut the sugar out of soft drinks, people swilled a great deal more of the low-cal beverages. When we cut the fat out of foods, people gorged themselves on low-fat, no-fat foods to the extent of ushering in the current obesity epidemic. Wow! So that, like, that makes sense to me! if you want to really kill people, take the salt out and they'll just eat themselves like as much as they can to get because they have a craving for it. Well that's kind of interesting because one I always thought that the fast food hamburgers had too much salt but that could be wrong but here last night I was floating around the downtown squares of Old Madrid and I went and had dinner at a tapas place

2:04:03 and the first thing they always ask you if you want some of their Iberian ham which is just dynamite. So you get a big plate of this ham and there's one appetizer. I kind of ate a bunch of the ham which is extremely salty and then I had like part of the appetizer and before I could even want to order anything else I was full. Right. I mean I just felt like I didn't want to eat anymore. I was thinking, geez I thought I was really hungry when I came in here but I'm not hungry now. And I think it was the ham was so salty that it was like, you know, just, I think there was something to that idea if you, because I've noticed this before, you eat something that's salty and it's just like, you kind of like don't really want to eat anything.

2:04:42 Well I find it highly interesting that no wonder Walmart is on board. They're like yeah let's do this. Let's make it taste like crap. Everyone will think oh this is really good for me but because it tastes like crap because there's less salt people will be craving for more salt and they'll eat more Walgreens products or Walmart. To me I'm like wow what a perfect scam. What a perfect setup. Well, it could be also the body will crave X amount of salt so it'll keep eating until it gets that much salt and if there's half as much you'll eat twice as much. Right, right. But that's exactly what the guy is saying and I guess he's saying when we went to light beer people drank more beer because it was so light. Well, I've seen that happen. Low sugar, low carb drinks, everyone started drinking more of it. I don't think these companies love that.

2:05:36 You know what, again, it's possible they actually know this and are pushing this agenda. I think it's highly possible and I was just like wow that's an eye-opener. But we'll need some... I like it. Yeah, I like it too. We'll get some insiders. It makes sense at some level, at some screwball level. And you know, I don't think it explains everything but it's actually quite interesting. So I've had an ongoing encrypted email exchange with an insider at one of the climate calculation centers, data centers, who runs, he's a programmer, engineer, and he runs the models.

CHAPTER 25 / 27 Discussion

Climate Change Models and the Peak Oil Contradiction

White House science advisor John Holdren is criticized for his stance on climate change and his rejection of the "peak oil" theory. The discussion highlights a logical inconsistency: if peak oil were real, greenhouse gas emissions would naturally decline as fossil fuels are exhausted, making drastic regulations unnecessary. Additionally, it is noted that future climate models may be run on IBM Watson systems to leverage the computer's public credibility.

climate change· john holdren· peak oil· ibm watson· ipcc· greenhouse gases

2:06:19 And some of these climate change models take and he's actually working on some of the models for IPCC 5 for the new proof that we're all going to die because we're not napping for humanity. And hold on, this is actually under the... Got to open up the section properly. So this is, you can imagine this has been a phenomenally interesting email exchange. Of course I can't mention him and he's sending me encrypted emails I'm encrypting back because the guy could lose his job very very quickly. Let me lead in to this with a clip from Mr. Dr. John Holdren, who is our El Presidente's advisor, senior advisor on all things science.

2:07:07 And of course how upset he is with how poorly we're doing on combating climate change. With respect to the issue of climate change, we didn't get as much done in the first two years as the president had hoped, as I had hoped, as his other advisors in the energy and environment domain would have wished. And what we didn't get above all is we didn't get the comprehensive energy and climate change legislation that the President had hoped for, which we wanted to include a price on greenhouse gas emissions. We wanted to see a cap-and-trade.

2:07:45 uh... program we didn't get it and uh... i think that's a setback the president i think it's a setback he continues to talk about his goals for reducing united states greenhouse gas emissions uh... by seventeen percent below the two thousand five levels in twenty twenty and by eighty three percent in twenty fifty but we're having to figure out did you hear that? eighty three percent by twenty fifty i didn't know that i thought it was only crazy europe that had that It's ridiculous. It's impossible.

2:08:33 We're using the authorities that we already have under statute, including the authority that the Environmental Protection Administration has to regulate greenhouse gases. Are you concerned or even irritated by the upcoming congressional hearings which will question the very science of climate change? Well, the Congress has made very clear, or members of Congress have made clear that they intend to hold hearings on climate change science. I look forward to those hearings. By the way, you hear that? They're going to have hearings on climate change science. This is a little interesting tidbit there. ...opportunity to put the facts, the science out there. I think

2:09:12 any objective look at what science has to say about climate change. Science! Ought to be sufficient to persuade reasonable people that the climate is Reasonable people! changing in unusual ways, that humans are responsible for a substantial part of that change and that those changes are already doing harm and will do more unless and until we start to reduce our emissions. So I bring this up John because I looked into Holdren's background And as I'm going back and forth with our no agenda leaker, which I think he just, our leaker's word depends, but it's a different kind of leaking. And it turns out this guy doesn't believe in peak oil, this Holdren guy. In fact, he's come out as a staunch opponent of peak oil.

2:10:03 That's interesting. Well, it is interesting for a number of reasons. So I go back and forth with our with our friend and two things come up number one They program all these climate models in Fortran, which is kind of funny. It's like a step. It's a step below cobalt and Guess what's going to happen next year when their new computers are supposed to come in guess what's gonna be in there? Right IBM Watson, of course See this is how the propaganda works. First you show that this thing can't be wrong, this thing is awesome, it wins Jeopardy, it's fantastic, you've got to love IBM Watson, it has a personality, it talks to you, it's fantastic, and now it's going to actually come out and say, I have predicted that climate change is real. You must be careful humans, we must reduce all greenhouse gas emissions by 83% by 2050.

2:10:57 Final Jeopardy answer is I guarantee you this is gonna happen Watson will be on television talking to us about climate change because no one believes the politicians, but Watson I mean, how can you how can you argue with a Jeopardy winner? Let's be honest. So IBM is up for the contracts for the new climate change computers That's number one and I have a tip I have a tip for everybody if you are in a conversation We should put this in one of our emails John if you agree with it. I If you, and I verified this with our insider, peak oil of course is perpendicular to greenhouse gas emission reductions. Because, and I think that most people who believe in man-made climate change, the climate is changing, no doubt about it, but we've got the sun exploding, all kinds of stuff happening right now. But if you are in a conversation with someone, there's a 95% chance they also believe in peak oil.

2:11:54 So this is how you trap them. You say, oh you believe that we're responsible for all this climate change? Yes. You believe in peak oil? Yes. Well then we don't have to worry do we? Because we'll just run out of oil and then we'll have no problem. That's a good one. Seriously. No I like it. This is why Holdren is against it. because he knows that and they're always really quiet about it you never hear people yelling hooting and hollering about peak oil because it's a logical inconsistency that he spotted exactly exactly so he has to say oh god what are we going to do about this one yeah but isn't it beautiful you just say hey do you believe and i guarantee you people who believe in uh man-made you're right because it's the same mentality yep the mentality is that everything we do is screwed up

2:12:42 because we're humans and we're you know wrecking the place because we're just bad people or burning up fossil fuels so you say you know what we don't that problem solved peak oil will run out of oil hey we may have to walk we may not we you know unless we figure out battery technology but we won't have to worry about greenhouse gas emissions because we won't have anything to burn now will we and and watch people go because it freezes your brain huh and this Holdren he's against it of course he is He's a little late to bring up that. That's funny because it's not going to work because there's no way that you can all of a sudden change gears amongst the crowd, the climate change crowd, the warmists. You can't all of a sudden pull the plug on their very strong belief about peak oil. Exactly.

2:13:35 Yeah, that's a good one. That's a 10. That's the winner for the show. As it comes to man-made global warming, which means because of our cars and all the oil we're burning, evil oil, evil oil, because of that we're all going to die. So we have to reduce that. Well, with peak oil, great! Problem solved! Well, it's all not a problem. Yeah, it may suck because we won't have anything to drive but we're not gonna die from greenhouse gas global warming. We're not gonna get flooded. It's all gonna end. We're over the peak. That was in the 70s. But my final clip is... That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah, it just came out. I mentioned this to you and I said, well, we should do another Talking Points memo. Talking Point. I said, let's do one on climate change. Although I didn't have that point to make. It's probably better I didn't do it. But, you know, it's kind of old news. Yeah, but this is good. This is good. So,

CHAPTER 26 / 27 Discussion

Evergreen Aviation and Weather Modification Capabilities

Promotional material from Evergreen Aviation showcases the capabilities of its 747 Supertanker, including its use for fire suppression and environmental concerns. The material explicitly mentions "weather modification" and "ocean fertilization" as viable missions for the aircraft. This admission is used to support theories regarding persistent jet contrails and government involvement in atmospheric manipulation.

evergreen aviation· supertanker· weather modification· chemtrails· homeland security

2:14:31 Let me just throw one out there, I haven't done anything really nutty yet today, so... Persistent contraries. So many of the persistent jet contrails alarmist such as myself have been tracking this outfit called evergreen aviation we talked about on the show before as it is a strong belief that these guys have all the contracts for these con persistent jet contrails which seem to hang around a lot longer than normal vapor trail and leave it to the idiots they need to hire Helen Nolten

2:15:09 Now what they do is they get Final Cut Pro, they put together their own little industrial promo talking about how great they are. And listen to what they say in their own promotional material. You will love this. This is their new 747. Innovation has been Evergreen's hallmark. Evergreen's goal is to conduct air tanker operations at night while fires are most vulnerable. by utilizing the 747's advanced avionics, new night imaging technology, and the super tanker's state-of-the-art delivery system allowing for higher drop altitudes. So they've got high drop altitudes at night, 747, this is their new, they're hyping this up, this is to show their military buddies. This landmark achievement is on the horizon.

2:16:01 Yet the evergreen supertanker can do even more. Oh, what could it do? It's capable of responding on a moment's notice to various homeland security and environmental concerns. Hmm, John, I'm so glad they're around. Homeland security and environmental concerns, let's see. Able to carry chemical neutralizers. The evergreen super tanker is large enough to neutralize a chemical or biological attack on a major population center. So if they can do that, they can certainly do other things with it, I think. Or a military battlefield. Weather modification. Weather modification! There we go everybody! Hot pockets! And ocean fertilization are also viable missions within the capability of the super tanker. Alright, there you go. Weather modification. If they're not doing it already, they're certainly selling that capability. Well, there you have it. That's the flooding in Pakistan. Can't trade loose. Alright, well, uh, that's kind of it for me.

CHAPTER 27 / 27 Discussion

G20 Tensions and No Agenda Stream Telethon

The show concludes with notes on the G20 summit's focus on China's economic policies and reports of the Chinese government blocking "Jasmine Revolution" search terms. An upcoming telethon on the No Agenda Stream is announced to support "Rhino the Bearded's" Kickstarter project for show-related content. The hosts sign off with a reminder of their listener-supported model.

g20· china· jasmine revolution· telethon· rhino the bearded· kickstarter

2:17:06 That's pretty good. You got anything else, boy? Uh, let's see, I got my little book here. I did have my little book with me. Let's see, we got, uh, I already got that. Berlin Film Festival wasn't covered very well. The winner of the Golden Bear went to the Iranians. Oh really? Was Angelina Jolie there in the audience? No wonder it didn't get covered. I've never even heard of this film festival. And then there's a really good show I think we should consider, you know, that the state should have. On Euro News, You've probably seen this I always I've seen it before and I've always forgotten about it on your own news They have a show called no comment TV if you ever watch that yeah where they just have raw video and they'd and they love video Yeah, and they don't say anything. Yeah, I love that is a great show. It's boring the last it's boring We'd watch it all the time like man. Do you see that as awesome?

2:18:05 And then finally, you know, the funny thing about the coverage over here is they really, they actually not only go to the G20, I thought it was like locked so you couldn't see it or something. I thought it was like a Bilderberg meeting, but they get speeches and they have the people talking and you'd see all these different representatives from the different countries. And apparently everybody in the G20 is bent out of shape about China. completely. But the Chinese basically told everyone to screw themselves and they all said, you know, okay we won't do much but you know we still are concerned. And those Chinese are getting uppity too. I guess they're trying to put the Jasmine Revolution into play and now there's all this big propagandistic noise here. The Chinese search engines are blocking the word Jasmine so that they can't organize and cause a revolt.

2:18:56 Yeah, that's probably true. But then they get it pretty locked down. And that's about it. Well I do have one programming note before we go. Next Saturday, I'm sorry, yeah next Saturday, we're going to have a telethon on the show. on the stream, noagendastream.com and that will be Rhino the Bearded and Yellowjacket are doing a telethon to raise the final funds needed for his Rhino the Bearded's Kickstarter program. This is so that we can continue with the excellent No Agenda shots. He needs his school books paid for and there'll be a rerun of that after the show on Sunday. So I want to make sure everyone tunes in for that. We'll probably even fire off the bat signal so that you

2:19:40 Are alerted to the telethon starting so that should be fun and hopefully you'll be back stateside John you can join They'd love to have you do a call-in and I promised I would ask you. Oh, yeah, no problem You heard it here first so when this yeah, we got a little house out here in the suburbs and settling in Well, it'd be good to have you back stateside have a little better connection. Oh And I miss your clips. Even the... I need like a shot of Hawaii Five-0 or something, man. I'll load up. Good. Alright, well, sorry about all your problems. If there's anything I can do from here or if any of our No Agenda producers boots on the ground can help you, just send out a bat signal and let us know, okay? We'll be listening.

2:20:37 Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Gitmo Nation pickpocket, see the new name, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda. Dvorak.org slash N-A-W-R-A-K.