Episode 268 · Sunday, 9 January 2011

Mavericks of Media

Federal subpoenas for WikiLeaks followers and a tragic shooting in Arizona provide the backdrop for a massive consolidation of power within the Obama administration.

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About this episode

The United States Department of Justice issued subpoenas to Twitter for records related to WikiLeaks, targeting the account information of over 635,000 followers. This federal move coincides with the Tucson shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, an event the media has rapidly leveraged to demand restrictions on political speech. Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik and major networks like CNN and Fox News have linked the tragedy to inflammatory rhetoric, potentially signaling a shift toward pre-crime legislation and the forced hospitalization of dissenters.

In the executive branch, President Barack Obama appointed William Daley as White House Chief of Staff and Gene Sperling to the National Economic Council. These appointments of Chicago dynasty members and architects of the 1999 Glass-Steagall repeal signal a consolidation of corporate and financial elite power. Meanwhile, the Department of Defense faces scrutiny after Senator Charles Grassley revealed a report alleging 5,200 employees were involved in child pornography. This investigation, known as Project Flicker, raises concerns that foreign operatives could use such evidence to blackmail high-ranking Pentagon officials.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak navigate these geopolitical shifts while acknowledging the show's own milestones, including the knighting of Double Dame Tanya Wyman. Curry details a personal encounter with Stephen Hawking in Los Angeles and analyzes the mysterious "mothership" sighting over Lima, Peru. The episode concludes with a look at the National Level Exercise 2011, which prepares for a catastrophic earthquake along the New Madrid fault line.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 268 Introduction and New Web Features

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 268 of the No Agenda podcast, originating from their respective command centers in Southern and Northern California. The hosts announce technical updates to the show's infrastructure, including the replacement of Mibbit with a new web chat interface at noagendachat.net and updates to the StreamUp service. Dvorak recounts his recent return from a trip to Chile and Las Vegas, noting the cold weather and technical difficulties encountered while traveling.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· no agenda· mibbit· streamup· pocketnoagenda

00:00 Congresswoman Bono has her breasts exposed in a photo? Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, January 9th, 2011, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 268. This is no agenda. Celebrating National Slavery Month here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crockpot Command Center in Gibbon Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California in the morning. I am the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's more than cold, it's chilly. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crockpot and Buzzkill!

00:37 In the morning to you John. In the morning to you and in the morning to all ships at sea and all the boots on the ground. And foots in the ocean, wings in the skies, astronauts manning the moon and Mars base stations, hams on the air and human resources everywhere. And of course everybody in the chat room at noagendachat.net all charged up and ready to go the way your government loves you. And before we start, John, big thanks to the human resources who have been totally rocking it the past couple days. We've got the new StreamUp. I think it's even connected now to the PocketNoAgenda app. We've got a brand new web chat interface.

01:18 That has, uh, it's like, Mibit is gone now, so now we have like some cool thing that really works well and has the streaming stuff right in it. It's at noagenachat.net and it's great! Everyone's been working really hard. And where were you, by the way? I was in Chile, I lost the wages. We were working, man. Gitmo Nation, uh... Yeah. Chapstick. When did you get back? You need a lot of chapstick down there. Yeah. When did you get back? I got back yesterday, late yesterday, and staggered home and the house was freezing. We had people in the chat room like trying to hook you up with a hooker because they felt so bad that you couldn't find any.

02:02 There wouldn't, you know it was weird. I mean I didn't even see him in the hotel. What? Well, you know, some hotels apparently, I don't know what the new rules are because I don't go to Vegas as much as I used to, but you know, they used to be in the olden days, there used to be hookers all over town. They used to be wandering around. And then, but there were the high expensive hookers were available. You could find them if you had nothing but money. Like at Caesars Palace, you'd see them. There'd be all over there. I didn't see any. There's none been there, none there recently. And the last time I looked, which was like three or four years ago, there was a bunch of hookers roaming around the MGM Grand Casino.

02:44 I didn't see anybody. Were they wearing badges or, Hi my name's Debbie, I'm a hooker? How did you know that they were hookers? Yeah, exactly. They actually have this little badge and it said, but it wasn't Debbie. It was Raven. Oh! And, Hi I'm Raven, I'm a hooker. Yes. But anyway, so the one thing that was going on regarding this sort of thing, and by the way I'm a happily married man, I don't need hookers. but I like to chat with them. When I lived in Amsterdam, I grew up in Amsterdam and it was the most normal thing of the normal course back in the day by the way when they were Dutch and I you'd walk home and you walk through the alleyway and there'd be uh... an alley and Sean, Sean that's S-J-A-N not Sean as in Sean John and you'd say hi and you'd chat for a second you keep on walking and everyone knew each other it was it was like saying hi to your butcher

03:36 So the one thing they are doing, they have these little cards. I collected a few of them because I think they'll be a nice post. But these Mexican kids are hanging out all over the place and they're handing out these cards that say, call Jessie for a good time with her phone number and sometimes the price is on the card. Price is on the card. Yeah, right. $44, $50, $120. What? That's all? No, there were some cheap, there were some $75 deals. Special, special for Sherlock Holmes. Early bird special. Anyway, there's all these cards going around and there's pictures of these girls supporting. Oh, hold on. And these, they're business cards now, they're business card sized things, they're not big giant cards. Right. And they're, and on one side there's one girl and you flip the business card over, it's a full color photo and there's another girl on the other side of the card. I think these are collectible. Oh yes, of course they are.

04:28 and you've collected them all for the set. No I didn't collect as many as I'd like to but I can just imagine making a wall hanging. Those are in the... That would be quite entertaining. In Gitmo Nation East in London where they used to have telephones in the phone box the well-known British icon of the red box that's pretty much where you find the business cards now there's no phone in there it's just a place to go pick up... It's just girls cards. Yeah hooker cards not just girls by the way. Anyway It is good to have you back on a reasonable connection, John. Happy about that. Yeah, well that was on a hotel connection. It was a mess. The whole AT&T net went down completely. You couldn't get on, I couldn't even get a phone call out, let alone anything else. I mean, you could do some texting with AT&T if you had an AT&T, because everyone came into town, they all had iPhones, so they blew up the AT&T system. And people with Verizon had no problem whatsoever.

05:25 and uh... but was weird because the hotel would completely lost its wife i was just a lot of like we had a hard and it's like they'd like this happens every single time every year and it's not like it can and when he hears that the others this is the future and they can handle it welcome to it you know welcome to the future is sox Hey, if only there were some news to talk about. Yeah, it's been a pretty slow week except for the shooting. Except for the... what are they calling it now? Some alliteration. Not terror in Tucson. Is it terror in Tucson or tragedy? Tragedy in Tucson. Wait a minute. Tragedy in Tucson. Tragedy in Tucson. Yeah, it's all over the news. Before we get to that story, let's get a couple other things cleared out. Okay. Mainly because I have it on my screen. Good.

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

WikiLeaks Twitter Subpoena and Hacker Kevin Poulsen

The United States government issued subpoenas to Twitter seeking records related to WikiLeaks, including bank and subscription information for specific accounts. The discussion covers the potential investigation of over 635,000 Twitter followers of WikiLeaks and the standard nature of such federal requests. A tangent follows regarding Kevin Poulsen, a former hacker turned Wired magazine editor, known for his historical exploit of a Los Angeles radio station phone switch to win prizes.

wikileaks· twitter· subpoena· department of justice· kevin poulsen· wired magazine

06:15 uh... and uh... eric the show mentioned this to me this morning but you know they they're going after the other guy at the government's finally taking a shot at wiki leaks though with the trial i mean beside with the twitter stuff you mean yeah yeah okay so there's other hit so they're going after twitter they want to twitter records but they want their bank and subscription records i'm thinking These people even use Twitter? I think that's a like a standard I read that I read the subpoena I think it's a standard request that they this is the document that they'll send to Google when they're going to get your Gmail which is why I'm off of it and run my own mail server so they'll have to send that request to me

07:00 as my own mail provider. But it's just a standard form, standard questions. Well obviously there's something stupid about it. But so I was told this morning that they're going to at least look at the 635,000 followers. Well, that would include me! Well, you know, that's why I went to that's why I have this up on the screen because I went to WikiLeaks because I didn't know if I was a follower. Oh, and it turns out that I'm not so you're under you're gonna be under investigation. We'll take a look and see what the differences are between you and me in the weeks to come. I got a better idea. Why don't I unfollow and you follow and let's see how that goes. I'm not gonna touch this thing with a pin for the pole. I got nothing. I don't want to deal with it. No. But I what I did get that was funny was similar to WikiLeaks, you know,

07:45 you know that you get the if you're following them they're so right in their recommendation yeah yeah so they got the open rights group down with tyranny disinformation and Rachel Paulson I was getting to Rachel mad out I don't like Kevin Paulson's doing on a guy who is Kevin Paulson given Paulson's the hacker who uh... there's a bunch of news stories about him and he's with the wired magazine he's the guy who was busted years ago for being one of the early thrown in jail for being a hacker. Oh I know who you're talking about yeah. Or either I don't know if you were. No it wasn't he the the the

08:24 the guy who released the code to crack encryption? I don't think that was... it might have been. It could be. Whatever the case is, his real notoriety came from the fact that he hacked a phone switch and he could win all those Los Angeles comp... you know... The radio... The Coca-Cola! when does the Ford? Nah. He had third collar. Yeah, right. So he won like five or six, you know, multi-thousand dollar deals in a row. Yeah, that's cool. That's a business. We could look into that. Well, I don't know. How did we do today? Let's see if we have to get into the radio station competition business. We're okay. Good. So let's get into some stories. What have you discovered? Well, let's thank some producers first. I wanted to do that before we roll on.

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Linux Bat Signal and Ministry of Truth News Reader

A new "Bat Signal" application for Linux users has been developed and hosted on GitHub to alert listeners when a live No Agenda broadcast begins. The system includes an IRC bot that echoes alerts across multiple channels to ensure community notification. Additionally, the show introduces "Doug the Blackbird," an automated news reader that provides hourly Ministry of Truth headlines and song announcements on the No Agenda stream.

linux· github· bat signal· irc bot· ministry of truth· doug the blackbird

09:19 I'm sorry, did I throw you for a loop there? We've only been doing it for 267 episodes. Yeah, well I mean it's just a matter of the page that's on the screen. Well while you bring that up let me do a quick PR mention to Sigma, who you'll find in the chatroom at noagendachat.net, is Sigma who has updated yet again the Linux bat signal. Of course we have a bat signal on the iPhone with the Pocketnoagenda app. the Android platform doesn't really have push notification which makes it kind of hard to do a bat signal but someone should do some form of bat signal. Maybe, you know what, screw it, I'm going to put a bat signal in the Big App Show app. That would be kind of funny. People thinking that, hey, something just happened there. And the thing is a new Big App Show episode but it'll be for no agenda. I'm going to do that. Nobody... Go over this again? Forget about it. So there's a bat signal for Linux boxes.

10:11 You know what the bat signal is, right? No. Yes you do. No I know what a bat signal is but I don't know what it is for Linux boxes. Well you know what our bat signal is? Again we've been only using it for a couple hundred episodes. Yeah I know but what's it got to do with Linux boxes? Well if you have a Linux box there is an app that you can load on it which you can get from GitHub. It's the NoAgenda Bat Signal. And when I send out the bat signal that either A. there is a show going on or B. your ultimate demise is likely, which we can also use the bat signal for, then your Linux box will chirp or alert you in some way. Also at the request of Mr. Oil, there's now an accompanying IRC bot. When the Linux bat signal is received, it forwards it to the IRC bot, which will echo it across all channels it is loaded in.

11:03 I'm telling you man this is great. This actually works? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have a Linux box? Have you tried it? No, I haven't. I have a Linux box. I have not tried it, but I know it works. I know people who have used it. That sounds pretty cool. No, we've got all kinds of cool stuff like that. Yeah, I know we do. We actually have more cool stuff than any other show. You know, we also have Doug in the chat room now. Doug. Doug? Doug the black bird? Yes, so Doug is now our news reader. He reads the Ministry of Truth news every hour on the stream. Can you play a little bit of Doug? Sure, hold on a second. You put me on the spot, but yeah, hold on a second. Let me...

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Brad Meltzer Novel

Executive producers for Episode 268 are acknowledged, including Kevin Liang, Eric Day, and Ross Jordan, for their financial contributions and support of the challenge coin program. Associate Executive Producer Noah Cutler promotes "The Inner Circle," a new thriller novel by his brother-in-law Brad Meltzer, which was researched with assistance from the Department of Homeland Security. The hosts emphasize the legitimacy of these production credits compared to traditional Hollywood industry standards.

kevin liang· eric day· ross jordan· noah cutler· brad meltzer· the inner circle

11:41 I wasn't expecting that. Let me go to my downloads. While you're doing that, I can mention the executive producers. Here it is. Here's a bit of Doug. This is Doug with your Gitmo Nation news headlines direct from the Ministry of Truth. Nine year old. There you go. That's Doug. I'm impressed. Yeah, and he also announces the songs and does all kinds of cool stuff. The Ministry of Truth. Alright, let's start with our executive producer for this show is Kevin Liang, that's how you pronounce it, from Richmond, British Columbia. Happy New Year. Donation Night Layaway for the Sunday show has been sent your way. Thanks for the hard work and hope

12:22 2011 is a good year for Noah Jenner. I've got a douchebag trifecta call out. He gave us $300, so I suppose we can do that easily enough. Okay. My friends refuse to listen to the show and mock it! Oh no! Yes. Jeff Brutalmaster, uh, Himstra. Himstra. Himstra. Himstra. So we give him a... He's a douchebag. Douchebag! Right. Yeah, he's a douchebag. Justin Cheap North Korean Bastard Choi. Douchebag! and call and queen of at the box scum what is that elliot doesn't sound good whatever it is doesn't sound like you want to be called it no it doesn't sound good at all it sounds like some something terrible right anyway thank you i kevin eric day we have a

13:09 to uh... so ship executive producers and also exclusive members of the two six eight club who double up a cool black knight eric did arian from trouble ko canyon california two sixty eight i guys wanna thank you for making good on the challenge coins are spent uh... been a great help replacing uh... coins that were never delivered the donations to help up help help offset some of the additional cost the shows incurred have a great twenty eleven eritrean mission vio actually asserted that is that not sir era this service or era sorry uh... black knights are era and also search ross jordan of milwaukee wisconsin joined the two six eight clubbies wants to call out don parker as a douche bag

13:54 uh... and he also has the best my tie you can find it the found a says foundation are foundation a r dot com he has an extra ten ten ten point number one thirty and will mail it to the rightful owner if anybody out there ordered number one thirty uh... noah cutler i exact associate executive producer from austin texas to twenty two twenty two please mention my brother-in-law brad melzer's new thriller novel the inner circle he research it with the help of the department of homeland security in the former u s president and uses the backdrop of of the national archives it's got a lot of things no agenda listeners will enjoy go to brad melzer dot com for details and his tour dates

14:42 he's gonna be on a l a tour that's nice that book to arrest miserable and brad melzer's decoded on history on the history channel hitting stuff in the mouth thank you very much uh... noah cutler and that's k you tt l e r right cutler right and those are executive producers for today's wonderful episode two six eight well we appreciate that you know that these are official credits uh... you can list yourself as and executive producer or associate executive producer for and no agenda show two hundred and sixty eight is an official credit unlike those pussies in hollywood will actually about everybody else human resources propagate the formula are formally is this we go out we had people in the mouth

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

National Stalking Awareness Month and Presidential Proclamation

President Barack Obama signed a proclamation designating January 2011 as National Stalking Awareness Month, citing the prevalence of the crime since the 1994 Violence Against Women Act. The hosts review the formal language of the declaration, which calls on Americans to recognize signs of stalking and support survivors. The segment concludes with a critique of social media platforms like Facebook, suggesting their data collection practices mirror the behavior described in the anti-stalking initiative.

barack obama· national stalking awareness month· violence against women act· white house· facebook

15:40 It literally is National Slavery Month, John. Yeah, I heard that. Did you not know that? No, I did. I did know. It is National Slavery Month. It is also, I believe it is National Beware of Stalker Month. Oh, I didn't know that. I'm still confused how that can happen, how that works. I thought if you have a month, it's just the month is the month of the thing, whatever it is. It can't be more, right? Yeah, it's National Stalking Awareness Month. I think they should have some... I like it... they're gonna have multiple months or multiple entries for a single month. I think there's gonna be some good contradictory ones. Well, I think the whole idea of National Stalking Awareness Month is pretty creepy.

16:30 It is pretty crazy. Who comes up with that and says, hey I got a great idea, let's run this all the way up to the White House and have the President sign a declaration that we have to beware of stalkers? Isn't that kind of weird? Yeah, well that would include the Justice Department it seems to me if they're going to start looking at everyone who's subscribed to the feed from WikiLeaks on Twitter. Stalking is a serious and pervasive crime that affects millions of Americans each year in communities throughout our country, says our President. Did you know that? Yes, I did. Though we have gained a better understanding of stalking and its prevalence since the passage of the Violence Against Women Act in 1994. Oh, I guess men don't get stalked? Apparently not. This dangerous and criminal behavior is still often mischaracterized as harmless. Ooh. Okay. Right on. Right on.

17:19 I have... so uh... I just need to read this, I love the way he says it. I have in witness whereof I have here unto set my hand this twenty-first day of December in the year of our Lord, two thousand ten and of the independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-fifth. That's how I'm gonna... that's gonna be my email signature from now on. This is the thing he signed for just a simple thing of anti-stalking? Oh no, it's... Can't they simplify it? No, it's really long. I mean the whole thing is long but... What's the point? But the whole thing actually at the bottom, he's got his whole email signature, now therefore I, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim

18:06 January 2011 is National Stalking Awareness Month. I call on all Americans to learn to recognize the signs of stalking. Acknowledge stalking as a serious crime and urge those impacted not to be afraid to speak out or ask for help. Let us also resolve to support victims and survivors and to create communities that are secure and supportive for all Americans. And then we get the whole, I have here unto set my hand. Yeah, well they should shut down Facebook then. Hey, I gotta speak up. The president told me, hey, I'm being stalked by Facebook. Shut it down. Yeah, good point. Thank you, John. Thank you. So, uh, yeah. Nah, nothing going on. Since I mentioned Facebook, I want to get a clip out of the way. I should have got out of the way on the Thursday show. Oh, shoot. Clip right off the bat. What you got, bro? So I'm at a dinner and I'm talking to a guy who says, you know, I don't know, something's got to be done about Facebook. The thing is a plague.

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Facebook Demographic Shifts and Elderly User Growth

A new study indicates that the fastest-growing demographic on Facebook consists of users aged 74 and older. This shift in user base suggests that younger audiences may abandon the platform as it becomes more populated by older generations. The hosts speculate that the increased presence of "grannies" on the social network will ultimately lead to its decline among youth.

facebook· social networks· demographics· online shopping· elderly users

18:57 uh... it's just a horrible it's a horrible social constructs grueling and who was this uses what well i'm not gonna get him to try to be named anyway it he says what can be done to stop it and i said i don't want even worry about it is going to stop itself he says how's that Play the clip. If it now seems as though everyone and their grandmother is now on Facebook, a new study shows that actually might be true. Turns out that the fastest growing group on the social network is age 74 or older. Yeah. And older web surfers are also getting increasingly hip to online shopping and news. That's right. It'll be all over. Granny's on.

19:41 And what kids are going to be on Facebook if they know that fact? Yeah, really? Well, I hope they publicize that a lot. I Think this is a beginning. We should play that clip more often. Okay, we'll put it in the heavy rotation bin I'll have Doug announce it Actually, it'd be great for Doug doing that Face it even Doug even said now playing on no agenda Facebook dot mp3 cool. So I in light of the fact that more and more weird information is coming out about MITRE and other anomalies out there, gee, it seems as though a distraction of the week appeared before us without any prompting whatsoever. A tragic one, I might add, but still a distraction. It was, and I'd like to preface, so this of course is regarding the tragedy, tragedy in Tucson.

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Tragedy in Tucson and Media Coverage Anomalies

The media coverage surrounding the shooting of Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson, Arizona, is analyzed for its rapid escalation and potential use as a political distraction. Major networks including CNN and Fox News deployed top anchors like Wolf Blitzer and Shepard Smith to provide continuous, often vague, reporting on the event. The segment highlights the death of Federal Judge John Roll and the unusual biographical detail that a nine-year-old victim was born on September 11, 2001.

gabrielle giffords· tucson· cnn· fox news· shepard smith· john roll

20:37 First of all, let me say I'm the crackpot and so when I say that you know whether this is MKUltra or whatever it is regardless of what happened, what took place with the entire Ministry of Truth and how we were inundated with this as the most important thing in the entire world, like this is the tragedy, the president coming out and doing an immediate news conference. This is so horrible. It's just and and how it's being misused is despicable whereas the president could have come out and said you know I feel really bad for the

21:16 friends and family of sergeant jose rosado or perhaps uh... of uh... jose areo or perhaps lance corporal had tyke or perhaps a sergeant michael beckerman or perhaps uh... corporal niggun or perhaps sergeant miser no people who died in the past week in iraq and afghanistan no no no he's he's gotta go on as though it's a horrible that my friend that i got shot I'm sorry, it just doesn't cut it for me. It pisses me off and it's wrong. It makes no sense. It makes plenty of sense. Well, yeah, for his agenda it makes sense. And what about our news, huh? It's so funny because I was watching CNN, you know how I love to watch the weekend crew because it's always hilarious. Yeah. And they had some old douchebag, I don't know what his name is, but this

22:14 You know, I noticed that too. CNN, what's funny, before you go on with that, I want to mention Fox on the weekends usually has These boneheads on but they brought in all their heavy hitters. Well, this is what happened is both Fox and CNN brought in all their heavy hitters as soon as they could. Yeah, well, the funny thing was I think that Megan newsreader that good looking blonde. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently they brought her in off the street. She was so made up. She had bright red glossy lipsticks. I mean she had you know hot stockings. I mean it was unbelievable It was actually it was almost as if they knew it was gonna happen so they had this like backup dude Who they brought in for for CNN and and he's one of these guys that like?

23:02 you know even though he's doing show business news he's really trying hard to make it sound like very important. So tell me this news regarding Lindsay Lohan and I literally saw him around you know maybe 9 30 a.m doing a segment of you know so like some showbiz news segment like why did they bring this douchebag in and I hadn't I don't think I might have seen him you know as like some veteran reporting dude And then all of a sudden this big news hit, I was like wow he must be loving this, he must have a big chubby under the desk there. And then I saw that Fox, they did their schedule, their line up, and they brought in Geraldo to come in late at night, and everyone was coming in, and then CNN brought in Blitzer, and everyone was all over this, like okay, you know? Was this ratings week, did we miss something, was there a reason for that? No, no.

23:56 They were all on call or something. I guess they have a pager. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Must come into office immediately. So, uh, you interrupted me. I was going to say, like, how bad is it? NPR reported that the governor, the governor, the congresswoman was shot dead. as an hour work yeah great work guys and it's like oh no she isn't dead and that's like she got shot through and through the head and then she's awake she's asleep and nobody has any real information and meanwhile the guy who actually matters in in this and of course everybody matters when there's something horrible like this is john role this this federal judge who did get killed yeah he's a good all kinds of stuff going on with him he uh...

24:44 First of all, he's been a judge for like 40 years or something. He is a Bush judge. Well, he was also a Lucy judge when Janet Napolitano was there. They're all saying that it's just a coincidence he was there. Talking about rambling reporting, I do have a clip. of Shepard Smith. This is about, I'd say, a third of the way into the story where Shepard Smith, who was their main news anchor, that was obviously brought in off the street. Surely you mean Shep Smith? Shep Smith. He was brought in off the street to carry the load and he had nothing to say except a lot of vagaries

25:27 and it but it's kind of interesting because he actually reported on the fact that he has nothing to report on and I thought it was as good a ramble as anybody could possibly deliver. I'm sorry John just got to start something here for some reason my uh... here we are here's Shep. Which one is it? Rambling Shepard Smith. Of all the Shep Smith clips you gave me, oh man what is going on here? You know you work with this stuff for days and it works fine. Of Pima County Clarence Dupnick speaking with, he says he's a little deaf. He came up with a lot of information tonight, man. We got filled in in many ways. Some updates in case you're just joining us. The shooting in Arizona today, Congresswoman, a federal judge, a nine-year-old, on and on. Here's what we learned. They have reason to believe, well,

26:21 They are not convinced that he acted alone. They have a suspect, they know they have the only... Yeah, that's known as a handler, Shep. ...the only gunman, the only person who fired bullets today. We were told by witnesses earlier that there was an exchange of gunfire between someone in the crowd or some sort of law enforcement officer. Didn't happen. So many times people think they hear and see something at a crime scene, but they didn't. In this case, the police confirmed there was no exchange of gunfire whatsoever. I actually saw him roll into like this, well you know he had a MySpace page it was taken down of course MySpace is, I wish I'd recorded that, MySpace is just like Facebook but only it's not but of course MySpace is owned by the same parent company as Fox but MySpace page is like, it's just like on and on and on, it's like say something

27:10 It's useful. I never realized this, I never liked this character, but I never realized how good he is at killing time in a way that's a little more interesting than the Los Angeles news reporters who just can't seem to come up with anything to say. Smith at least he says nothing here by the way, but he does it in a way that it makes you think he's saying something He's quite good at this. Well, that's what he gets paid for. Yeah, he's very good at it He had a gun with an extended magazine. He said it was semi-automatic I haven't seen it if you have a problem with what he said is semi-automatic call him. Yeah, whatever So did you notice that the nine-year-old child who was murdered? Was born on 9 11 2001

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Jared Loughner Army Enlistment Rejection and Leaks

The United States Army confirmed that Tucson shooting suspect Jared Loughner attempted to enlist but was rejected for service. While the military cited the Privacy Act in refusing to disclose the specific reasons for his rejection, news anchor Shepard Smith predicted that the details would eventually be leaked to the press. The hosts question the timing and nature of these anticipated leaks in the context of the official narrative.

jared loughner· united states army· privacy act· shepard smith· military enlistment

27:55 wow yeah as one of those uh... in your face type things we go wow and uh... yeah so so here's the thing that this is this report goes on and on and on you which you don't apply to this is the biggest basically what's the old but i see two minutes and thirty four seconds left no not gonna play it you're right play this because this is the chef shep smith on the army in finding out why clip and tell me if you notice kind of an anomaly in here that is like Oh, we have a script and somebody would say, hey Shepard, that part of it you're not supposed to tell anyone. A few more things that happened while you were listening to them. Here are some other things we were learning in the background. We've told you a number of times today that this suspect, the 22 year old man, was in, there he is, he was in Phoenix being trained to go into the military.

28:50 Well, we've been able to confirm the following, quote, the Army has confirmed that the suspect was never in the United States Army. He attempted to enlist in the Army but was rejected for service. Why? Well, in accordance with the Privacy Act, we will not discuss why he was rejected. That's the statement from the United States Army, attributed to the United States Army. Will we find out why he was rejected? Uh-huh, someone will leak that we'll have that at some time Hey, that's so first of all I did catch that and that I didn't hear anyone else report that bit about the army But I like that someone will leak that

29:31 Yeah, how does he know this? Because that's how it works. Is it because they always leak it or is it because he knows they're gonna leak it? Why would you say that? He said, well we find out, uh-huh, uh-huh. Yeah, he goes, uh-huh. What time is the leak? That leak will be at 2.30 this afternoon, the later news hour. I mean, give me a break. It's coming up. So in other words, they haven't leaked it yet because we don't know quite what bullcrap story they're gonna come up with. Right. Right. Anyway, there's a lot of bullcrap that surrounds this whole thing and the reporting of it and everything in between. Well, it's just the way it's being misused to talk about homegrown terror, about... Oh yeah, no, I agree.

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Sheriff Clarence Dupnik on Free Speech Consequences

Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik criticized political vitriol in the media, suggesting that while inflammatory rhetoric is protected as free speech, it carries dangerous real-world consequences. Media outlets and commentators have subsequently linked the Tucson shooting to figures like Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, specifically citing a map with crosshair graphics released by Palin's PAC. The hosts argue this rhetoric is being used to justify future restrictions on dissent and free expression.

clarence dupnik· pima county· free speech· glenn beck· sarah palin· huffington post

30:13 This is the real problem that this thing, in fact, play the sheriff on free speech and to me this is the key comment made by this Dubnick dipshit sheriff from the area. And he can come to the microphone now, but let me just say one thing because people tend to poo-poo this business about all the vitriol that we hear inflaming the American public by people who make a living off of doing that. That may be free speech, but it's not without consequences. You hear that, Curry and Dvorak? Shut up, slaves. Mimi mentioned to me that up in the Port Angeles newspapers are already, they're allowing comments on some of the stories, all the stories about this situation. Blame Glenn Beck.

31:01 Oh yeah, no, there's two, there's Glenn Beck, but then there's the whole Sarah Palin angle because of that image that she had with the crosshairs. Right, yeah, Sarah Palin is being, Bayhar was blaming Sarah Palin. But that was out almost immediately, I was like, what are they talking about? Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin? And I had to go and find, click on links, like oh my god, that's what they're saying is the blame? It's like this kid saw that picture, saw the crosshairs, and of course, uh... the huffington post is now i go to take a picture it's got out there completely outdated it's a lot of it uh... to become a congressman or congresswoman along what how hard is it how hard is to become a congresswoman it's not easy because you said you have to work your way through the party ranks to get to the point where the party will support you so you can actually run like this is really my decision we had enough money you could run and i disagree i disagree you're wrong

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Mary Bono Mack Breast Licking Photo Scandal

Congresswoman Mary Bono Mack is reportedly involved in a scandal featuring photographs of her and billionaire donor Edra Blixeth in compromising positions. Radar Online broke the story, which includes allegations of breast-licking in the photos, though the news was largely overshadowed by the Tucson shooting. The hosts discuss Mary Bono Mack's political history, noting she took office following the death of her husband, Sonny Bono.

mary bono mack· sonny bono· edra blixeth· radar online· congress

32:01 Because if you are the widow of a congressman you become congresswoman Apparently automatically did you know that no that's bullcrap? Oh, yeah, well Mary Bono man elected as you can get elected, but you don't inherit the job Congresswoman Mary Bono Mac widow of Sonny Bono yes She became the congresswoman when Sonny Bono died. She didn't become the congresswoman when Sonny Bono died, she was given that by the governor. When he died! Yeah, but it wasn't that she got it automatically by birthright. No, okay, right. But you know what I'm saying, it's like... And they didn't have to give it to her by any means? They didn't have to, but she received it.

32:47 yeah so she's so on the same weekend she is so happy right now because she is in the middle of a huge scandal there are pictures of her pictures of her and her biggest donor billionaire edra blixeth licking her breasts Congresswoman Bono has her breasts exposed in a photo? Uh, well, there, she's like, uh, cleavage and then, uh, this, uh, woman, uh, Edra Blixeth. Oh, Edra's a woman? Yes. Oh yeah, it's like a lesbian thing. Oh, it's a lesbian dress. Yes! And she's in pictures licking her breasts and Radar Online broke this news this weekend and I bet they're bummed. Oh man, we had the wrong congresswoman. I would be totally bummed. I'd miss the story completely. You got me on this one. That's another point for you.

33:41 you you're now ahead in this day today i think one did nothing i could just see someone at the uh... and radar online get no gives not the home page we've got the mary mary bono mac with their breast being by the way to put the story off for a while by the way she's kuhari hot she is uh... well bono or the other woman elbow not what the other woman is is actually kind of looks a little dikey i mean that i i i think this is just one of those like You know, kind of like those, like, oh, we're gonna pretend to make out, but Bono is... No! That's one mother I'd like to f***. She's hot. She got implants, I think. I would think. Yeah, but she's hot, you know. Nah, she's probably had a lot of work done. How old is she? I don't know. Does it matter?

34:30 Well, no, it doesn't matter but I just like to know because if she's just she looks like the hot we should go to She's 70. I say go to radar online. You can see her boobies being licked So but you literally these guys were like so I can tell they were so happy like I were gonna break this story big scandal on the hill and then this happens Yeah, no, that would be a very annoying if you're especially your scoop oriented operation. Yeah, I Know that's what I do it. I'm like, oh you losers. I that is funny so anyway so it this was totally uses distraction is going to be uh... misused for a homegrown terror it's going to be used for a food shut up slave you can't talk uh... you can't to send anything to be a all kinds of stuff on free speech you know you know it's free speech has its consequences yeah that's the best that's all that's the well free speech does have its consequences not as i said that's right your point is bags like that office

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Health Care Repeal Vote Postponement and Lincoln Imagery

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor announced the postponement of all legislative activity, including a scheduled vote to repeal the Health Care Act, following the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords. President Obama delivered a televised response to the tragedy while positioned beneath a portrait of Abraham Lincoln, an assassinated president. The hosts suggest the visual staging was a subtle, perhaps subconscious, message intended to resonate with the public during a time of national mourning.

eric cantor· house of representatives· health care act· abraham lincoln· barack obama

35:27 that's the main consequence but uh... really sounds yeah anyway then there's nothing we can say and that there's really not more much more we can say about this you can make all kinds of assertions in his all kinds of i put a ton of links in the show notes of course no gender show dot com under two t t h as in two to the head but again the whole fact that uh... it's all about the congresswoman and not about the judge who actually is dead uh... is bothersome and of course you know always delayed the whole vote on the roof the so-called repealing and i don't think that i i i actually have that clip from shepard smith in russia has a better body you got to set ship smith here on repealing the legislation are delayed the vote one more thing uh... there was legislation that was scheduled for this week in the united states congress

36:17 Republicans were going to vote on the health care bill and whether to repeal it in the United States House of Representatives. Now, it wouldn't have been repealed because the Senate would not have done that because it's Democrat controlled and the President certainly has the veto power. Nevertheless, Republicans are going to vote on this and it was widely believed that it was probably going to be struck down in the U.S. House of Representatives. That's not going to happen now. The majority leader, Eric Cantor, announced this afternoon that health care bill and all other votes will be postponed in the House of Representatives the entire week due to the Giffords shooting. They called it the Giffords shooting because obviously she's a member of their body. And further, because they want to take any action necessary, and that's a quote on what may, because of what happened there.

37:03 Couldn't he have said that in one sentence? There was another thing that really bothered me. The president came out and I don't think I've ever, maybe I've never noticed it before, but where he did this speech was right under a huge picture of Abraham Lincoln who was of course assassinated. And I don't know, it had, I woke up at like 4.30 this morning and went like... That's a good catch. Is that a message? Was that a message somehow? I mean... Subtle, maybe sub-subconscious thing? Yeah, what room is this? It looked like a different room than normal actually, to be quite honest. Yeah, and why would you do that there with that image? Yeah, you know, so it was subtle and maybe I'm just, but you know, it woke me up at

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Incendiary Packages and Government Preparedness PSAs

Incendiary packages were sent to government officials, including Janet Napolitano, which the Los Angeles Times characterized as part of a "vendetta." The hosts link this terminology to the film "V for Vendetta" and suggest it targets specific political demographics. Concurrently, the government is airing public service announcements through Ready.gov, urging citizens to prepare for disasters and power outages, which the hosts interpret as a campaign to maintain a state of public anxiety.

janet napolitano· v for vendetta· ready.gov· department of homeland security· psas

37:46 Before this morning. I'm like hmm. Boing. That's exactly. What the? That's exactly what happens like This is this is what my life has become. This is how bad it is. Wait a minute I know. Did I think what I saw? Did I see what I think I saw? It's exactly what it well, and there was more so we had in the same weekend we had the incendiary packages sent to Lucy Napolitano Which means, and this was a rudimentary device, of course immediately we know it's not Muslim terrorists, radical Islamists. We know that somehow. It's homegrown. Well here's the report that blew me away from the LA Times and it's all in the headline. Incendiary packages might be part of quote vendetta.

38:36 Like, oh my god, could you try and make it? I mean that's, that is so sneaky. That is the whole V for Vendetta thing. V for Vendetta. And they put it in quotes, not like Vendetta as in the word, but it's quoted meaning that it's supposed to stand out and say something. So Vendetta would be V for Vendetta would be crazy kooks who vote for Ron Paul and listen to no agenda. So, uh, it's just, that's bad. It's not, it's not okay that this is happening. Yeah, well, it's, we, it's nothing that we haven't predicted. Well, here's a, so, and then I keep seeing these things pop up, uh, these PSAs now are popping up everywhere. Did you buy the flashlight and the batteries? Yes. Did you make sure we're not missing anything in the first aid kit? Yep.

39:33 Did you go through the plan with the kids again? Yes. The more you prepare today, the more you'll be able to reduce the devastating effects of a tornado, an earthquake, a power outage, or any other disaster. Get a kit, make a plan, be informed. Visit ready.gov. Shut up slaves, be ready! For terror! Something bad's gonna happen! This is the PSAs your government is running. Doesn't sound very, uh... So just in case there's a power outage? Yeah, give me a break. Yeah, you know that the earthquake thing is always amusing I'm gonna give some people some earthquake tips. Can I can I before you get into that? Yeah, well, I have the I think I have the reason why this distraction was grasped so readily. I mean, did you find anything? I found something. Did you find anything? I found something I found something I can't believe that you didn't didn't pick up on this. I may have picked up on it. I

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Senator Grassley and Pentagon Child Pornography Report

Senator Charles Grassley appeared on CNN to discuss a report alleging that 5,200 Department of Defense and NSA employees were involved in purchasing or viewing child pornography. Grassley criticized the Pentagon for failing to cross-check 1,700 of these names against personnel records and questioned why administrative action has been limited. The investigation, originally known as Project Flicker, suggests that foreign operatives could use such information to blackmail high-ranking U.S. officials.

charles grassley· pentagon· nsa· child pornography· anderson cooper· department of defense

40:29 I did pick up on it. You picked up on it. Huge news, huge news came out just before the weekend and Senator Charles Grassley was all over it and he actually appeared on Anderson 360 keeping him honest. Did you notice he's keeping him honest John? Anderson yeah, keeping him honest keeping him honest. This was huge news. This was news that started in 2008 I believe then until hey stop stop. Why is he keeping honest? He's keeping them it's them who's them it's keeping them honest if he interviews you he's keeping you honest He's just keeping somebody honest. It's ads what he does Except when it comes to Haiti, but that's another story

41:15 So Charles Grassley, he got this report and we reported on this briefly but now it turns out it's gotten a little bit worse. This is regarding the pornography that was being downloaded and purchased apparently at the Pentagon and the NSA. You remember these reports, John? Yeah, this is from some months back. We reported on this one in July. But actually the report was regarding 2008, but it wasn't just any old pornography, John. It was child pornography. And it wasn't just a couple employees. It was 5,200 employees suspected of viewing and purchasing child pornography in the Pentagon and NSA.

42:01 This doesn't sound believable. Senator Grassley, you were told that 5200 Defense Department employees had allegedly purchased child porn and yet you're saying only 3500 of those names were cross-checked by a defense investigator to see if they were really DOD personnel. That's mind-boggling. Why weren't all of them cross-checked? Well, we don't have an answer to that question, but it's quite obvious that the other 1,700 should have been cross-checked. And that's one of the answers to my questions that I want answered. And the implication of our question is they ought to be cross-checked. We ought to find out because we're talking about not just general pornography here. We're talking about child pornography. And child pornography, taking that down, is a crime.

42:47 And also, there's an added factor here. Did he say taking that down as a crime? What he meant was downloading. Considering the fact that there's a lot of security information, national security information, that the world shouldn't know, that a lot of times foreign operatives will use this sort of criminal activity to blackmail to get information. that this by the way what he's saying there is absolutely true and that's what's going on and that i know for pretty much fact and give a nation lowlands with the whole justice department there is a corrupted because of uh... pornography and a in some cases child porn taking place in foreign countries is foreign countries uh... find out about it in the blackmail these people into doing whatever they want to do so he's right about that whether it's happening or not is something else but you cannot deny this is a a real uh... senator

43:38 with a real report john this is this was big and this came out friday i think this is huge Well, it's huge. I mean, just the story itself is huge. But it's been completely covered up. There's more. There's a lot of things here that are involved because it's a Defense Department issue as opposed to any other department of government. Right. I mean, if your numbers are correct, 1,700 people out there who allegedly purchased child porn, we don't know if they were ever cross-checked or investigated, right? That's true. And there's been some other names in the hundreds. That's code right there. That's code. Like I'm coming for you. Some other names, some other names, be very afraid, other names.

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Project Flicker and Potential Evidence Planting

The "Project Flicker" investigation into child pornography within the Pentagon is scrutinized for its unusually high number of suspects and potential for corruption. John C. Dvorak expresses skepticism regarding the feasibility of 5,000 employees accessing illegal content on highly monitored government networks. The discussion explores the possibility of evidence being planted by network administrators to facilitate blackmail or political removals, citing a similar case in the Oakland school district.

project flicker· ice· forensics· network administration· blackmail· oakland school district

44:35 Our census happened that they could be stale, maybe you can't have criminal prosecution, but we would be looking at administrative action to be taken against these people and I want to know who they are and what administrative action is being taken. Yeah, I want to know too! I want to know who these people are. Well, I want to know for one reason. Specifically which is is this a bunch of bull crap to from the get-go Designed for some other reason that actually put out there for some other reason either shake somebody down or God knows what? It stems from expansive investigation by ice Immigrations and customs enforcement and the and I like this it was known as project flicker. I

45:21 with the are see the promises that with me i mean i don't doubt a lot of the theories especially once you have about certain you know sex seg subsegments of the uh... holland and and british communities and in our communities to It's just a sheer number. It just seems unlikely. I mean, the Defense Department does employ a lot of people, but I mean, we're talking about just the Pentagon specifically. It's the Pentagon, but they have, in their... 5,000 people downloading child porn on government computers with their... this doesn't make any sense. Are these people... I mean, if there were that many, it would be a scandal. We might as well just legalize it. Or you might want to, like, MKUltra some kid into shooting some people so he can distract the attention.

46:03 It just doesn't make any sense that the number would be that. This is a fishy story. And then the fact that it's being covered up the way you suggest with the shooting and all the rest of it. I mean, if the tit-licking doesn't get their attention, the shooting will. The whole thing is fishy. Yeah, because what's even more startling is that of the 302 people confirmed as DOD personnel or contractors, Only 70 of them were actually investigated. How is it possible that all of them weren't investigated? Well, here's I think the thing that overrides everything you just asked.

46:39 And that is we ask criminal investigators in the division of defense that does that, the extent to which supervisors of these people knew that this was going. And the criminal investigators couldn't even answer that question for us when we had a briefing from them. So wait a minute, so you're saying we don't even know if the supervisors of these people were told that their employees may have downloaded child porn? That's the question that my staff ask of the criminal investigators. So what bone would this guy have to pick, Grassley? He's been around for a long time, right? Why would he pick this up? I think Grassley probably just got onto this and wonders why... I mean, he probably doesn't see through the possibilities. I mean, there could be some battles between one department and another. You know, it's not that difficult to plant

47:33 Child porn or any other kind of thing on somebody's computer if you have any skills Especially on a network like you know that's a closed network, and you have and you happen to be the network administrator I mean, it's very possible. It's really funny though whenever some schmuck It gets picked up for for porn on his laptop. No one ever comes to his defense that way so I was like no fucker up lock him up and Slap a bracelet on him. Nobody wants to defend any of this because it's one of these great little memes. Child porn is the worst thing in the world. So if somebody gets caught with it, they may be in it. I mean, this happened and there's a good story in the East Bay Express about somebody in the school district of Oakland who had

48:13 been ralph you know was again to do some some woman there's a bit was a very scandalous situation with who is a managing the school district and some guy who is a bit the biggest critic ended up with child porn on his office computer groups where it comes in so handy and uh... it was apparently planted by this woman who is trying to get rid of them in a set of throwing the book adamant throwing him in jail he agreed to quit the you know that the border war or the or the agency that was involved with and you know got out of the heat claims it was planted on his machine and it probably was a night and good for forensic investigators you know how to look at

48:50 You know, today's machines, by the way, are so complicated in terms of their file structures and the way they're organized and the backup temp files and all the other crap that's on the machine nowadays, especially with Windows, that a forensics investigator who knows how to get through the file system and look around, dig around, can find, you know, change dates and how something got from point A to point B on the hard disk. and can get some of these, you know, if they can explain it to a jury, could probably get some people off on some of these situations where the stuff has been planted.

49:26 And I just am very suspicious about this story. I was suspicious about it in July. I thought it was fishy then because of the sheer numbers. I mean, I can imagine 10 or 20 creeps in the Defense Department or at the Pentagon, let's say, with a collection of child porn in some club. But I can't imagine 5,000 because what's the point? And what would they be doing on a government machine that's all locked down and networked and tracked and it's got spy bots all over it and it's being looked at constantly? I mean, are they... don't they know that this is an insecure, an unsecure system? It just doesn't make any sense.

50:07 Always nice to see you defending the uh, pornographers. See that's exactly what you're making. Precisely. That's why this is such a great thing to do. You just put some child porn or you don't even have to do it, you just accuse somebody. Exactly. Because nobody ever gets to see the child porn because it's illegal to look at it. So thus, you know, it's just it's unbelievable that and and in fact that nudity is now considered child porn. If you have a picture of a baby on a bare skin rug, that's child porn by today's standards. So I mean, this has become a bugaboo.

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

William Daley Appointment as White House Chief of Staff

President Obama appointed William "Bill" Daley to replace Rahm Emanuel as White House Chief of Staff. Daley, a member of the influential Chicago political dynasty and son of Mayor Richard J. Daley, has a background in banking and corporate boards, including JP Morgan Chase and Boeing. His membership in the Council on Foreign Relations and past role at SBC Communications are highlighted as indicators of his deep ties to the established political and financial elite.

william daley· barack obama· rahm emanuel· jp morgan chase· boeing· council on foreign relations

50:44 Bugaboo he says All right, let's move off of that. I just thought that was a pretty big I think it would have been something great to propagate on the networks and I think Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper picked up on it nicely and he got slapped down by tragedy in Tucson tragedy in Tucson however there was some other cool stuff that uh... that happened and uh... uh... it's so i'd only received with the interesting enough only received one email from somebody who actually did a wikipedia look up on these guys shadow pop it's the president obama announced a number of new puppets into uh... the theater uh... the of course the most interesting uh... of the bunch are at first site would be william daly known as bill daly

51:33 uh... son of the uh... chicago uh... mayor and of course uh... part of the daily dynasty uh... which is just like you know who watches bring al capone in is what i was thinking isn't is not kind of what the daily family is dead that's what you say no proof of that but uh... so that this is like it's like you did the daily dynasty has been running chicago for what fifty years probably closer to 60. Yeah, so this guy who of course has worked at a couple of banks, he was on the Fannie Mae board when Clinton was in the White House, he ran SBC Communications which of course

52:26 uh... in the uh... didn't yahoo acquire them or was that it's not on a sbc was living out of it took over everybody they took a lot right civic bell they're now eighteen t right that's what it is that that that was a huge failure of course as that building in san francisco right cia nsa or what one of them one of the did uh... alphabet soon agency he was mid chairman of the west chairman of jp morgan chase bank one corporation uh... currently on the board directors of boeing murk is a great guy to bring in all and of course a council on foreign relations my favorite organization uh... so that's the guy who's replacing uh... rom the played a manual

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Gene Sperling and National Economic Council Leadership

Gene Sperling has been named the new head of the National Economic Council, returning to a role he held during the Clinton administration. Sperling was a key negotiator for the 1999 Graham-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed portions of the Glass-Steagall Act and allowed for the merger of commercial banks and insurance firms. The hosts criticize the appointment, noting that an architect of the policies leading to the 2008 financial crisis is now leading the recovery efforts.

gene sperling· national economic council· glass-steagall act· graham-leach-bliley act· lawrence summers

53:08 as a chief of staff, but then even more interesting the president announced a new head of his NEC and of course I first went like this guy's head of NEC the laptop NEC I knew you'd be want to know what that is at the National Economic Council. Oh, yeah the NEC NEC and he brings in Gene Sperling And do you know who Gene Sperling is? No, but you know what? You know what? What? I'm gonna find out. Gene Sperling... Now this is... so... This is another like amazing dude that he's brought in. Another... It's like a Goolsby guy? No, he's worse because... and I was really trying to understand if what Wikipedia is saying is true. It's freaking me out. Sperling was a principal negotiator

53:58 at the time when Lawrence Summers was Treasury Secretary, principal negotiator of the Financial Modernization Act of 1999 known as the Graham-Leach-Bliley Act. Graham-Leach-Bliley Act repealed large portions of Glass-Steagall allowing banks and security firms and insurance companies to merge So the guy who was the architect of the collapse that we're now in is now leading the economic council. You can't make this up!

54:41 Yeah, that's good. You can't make it out of your point. I give you another point. You just can't make it up I'm crying over here. That's a beauty. I'm crying like what? It's just I guess stuff writes itself This can't be true What does he get a do-over? What is this he didn't screw it up enough? What is that? And then the president's like, hey, he's great, he's back. He literally says like, hey, this guy's back, he's here for a second term. Good on ya! Democrats are just pleased as punch with bull crap. Good on ya! I just, it's like, will anyone pick up on that please? No. Please, please, please. I mean, it's in Wikipedia for Christ's sake. Excuse me for taking the Lord's name in vain. But it's on Wikipedia. I mean, even the lowest of all, lower than whale poop journalists looks at Wikipedia when someone comes in as appointed to the economic council. Or are we too preoccupied with the, with the tragedy in Tucson. Exactly. Yeah, okay, that's a good one. That's a point.

55:45 Don't mean to make them, but I got more but I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna even going through you've been you've been doing a lot of research This is my life. I was in Vegas This has been in the wheels, but this is what my life has become I mean I just sit here and I go like huh the universe shifted again, and I can feel it my whole body aches from it sometimes and why else do you think people support us they support the show because of the work we're doing and And by the way I can't take credit for 100%. I mean the Wikipedia lookup, yeah gee that was the work I did. Yeah well how much work does it take? A lot of work went into that. I'm telling you, a lot of work.

56:23 There was one... Which is actually the sad part. I know! That's what makes it pathetic. But this is the... What is the major media guys? Do you realize how many millions of dollars Shepard Smith gets a year? Three million. Three million a year. He gets three million and the major anchors on NBC, ABC and CBS are up five to ten. million dollars a year and they can't put two and two together by going to Wikipedia which like you said is a crappy resource but often you know brings results. And I'm cuter than Matt Lauer, I got more hair I should be able to do that show. He's bald. And that's what I'm saying I got more hair than him. You shouldn't be on TV with hair like that. It should be disallowed. It should be outlawed dammit.

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Military Spending Cuts and Health Care Media Strategy

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates proposed cutting $78 billion from the military budget over five years, a figure the hosts describe as negligible compared to total annual spending. Representative Dennis Kucinich and Judge Andrew Napolitano discussed the Pentagon's inability to track trillions of dollars in transactions, referencing Donald Rumsfeld's famous 2001 admission. Meanwhile, the Washington Post revealed a massive Democratic media strategy involving 70 press announcements to defend the Health Care Act, supported by polling from the Kaiser Family Foundation.

robert gates· dennis kucinich· donald rumsfeld· kaiser family foundation· washington post

57:09 Because they do it to the women, they start getting a little chubby, they fire them. They should fire the bald men. So then there's this, I mean of course most of the news got snowed under because of the tragedy in Tucson. Oh nice, I like that effect, that's good. to one of the news articles out there was you know we're tightening up the belt Robert Gates Secretary of Defense is yeah we're gonna cut military spending by 78 billion over five years like 78 billion that's that's that's only it's only a Facebook and a half

57:45 What are you talking about, man? 70... over five years, 78 billion. They're spending a hundred billion a year in Afghanistan. A hundred billion plus. They spend two billion a day for the Defense Department. It's like... but over five years! Yeah, it's like ten. It's like nothing. Meanwhile they're gonna expand. They're gonna expand the budget so it'll even out plus. I will say Judge Napolitano uh... the uh... air apparent to glenn beck uh... brings on dennis kucinich and to see which kind of lays it out and uh... it was quite entertaining because he brought i'm finding it disturbing yes that i'm in agreement with kissing more and more and more as time goes by i love them from the moment he's like u fos that's from the moment he was on the ufo tip i'm like that's my man so here is uh... here's a dennis to see that shit and judge napolitano actually kind of goes off which is funny

58:46 Well, it's a step in the right direction, but it's not substantial. You know, you're talking about $78 billion over five years. It's a fraction of the overall Pentagon spending that would be projected to occur in that time. But what we have to do is look at the money that's already being spent. You know, they constantly lose track of taxpayers' money inside the Pentagon and how the money's spent. This is a problem that's been going on for decades, from Democrat and Republican administrations alike. I couldn't agree with you more. it's there's something about is there something about america mom god the flag and apple pie world war two that that has made the pentagon a sacred cow so they can waste all the money they want and republicans democrats liberals conservatives big government progressives and libertarians will look the other way thought that was a great rand is like a good bet yes that is exactly what's happening judge

59:41 Well, you know, it's a constitutional responsibility to provide for the common defense. However, there's nothing in the Constitution that says that we ought to blow money in that provision. Yeah, we should blow it on hookers and blow, not on that. And what's happened with the Pentagon is they lose track of money. There's over... When I came to Congress, there were over a trillion dollars worth of accounts they couldn't reconcile. When President... When Senator... That's my favorite, and the reason I bring that up is it gives me another excuse to play the Donald Rumsfeld clip From September 10th, 2010, the day before 9-11, Donald Rumsfeld, the then Secretary of Defense says this. According to some estimates, we cannot track 2.3 trillion dollars in transactions. Oops! And then of course, the exact department where the accounting for that

1:00:26 uh... lost money were uh... i i i play influence and i'm not sorry i'm also sort of missile but it was a plane that we don't have on videotape and there was no luggage in the region all other stuff well actually is quite a bit of debris i'm sorry but no uh... debris of like luggage there was not a single suitcase that you can point to in any picture anywhere uh... people are traveling out the suitcases that they have and and that they only and then uh... the final uh... distraction due to the uh... tragedy in tucson was my sound effect job that's a good that's great let's try to get tragedy in tucson is uh... the democrats actually uh... and when i get this from the washington post i think that they had a very happy and this is why the uh... the vote the voting has been delayed they had a whole massive press uh... extravaganza set up

1:01:30 70 different press announcements to combat the Republican repealing of the Health Care Act and there's like the Washington Post has this whole article about how they it's like a complete media warfare they were planning so I don't know if it's off or they're gonna postpone or and it's all based upon I love this uh... a poll found that forty percent of americans have a favorable opinion of uh... of the health care bill and forty one percent unfavorable one the poll john who was the poll done by the kaiser family foundation well a at non-partisan david here is a hair non-partisan kaiser family foundation and we believe with the same people uh... the same family behind is it kaiser permanent a by any chance

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Psychiatric Ideation and Pre-Crime Executive Orders

A psychiatric analyst on Fox News suggested that individuals expressing "homicidal ideation" should be forcibly hospitalized, a move the hosts equate to the establishment of a "pre-crime" system. They argue that existing executive orders already allow for the detention of citizens without due process. The segment also notes the irony of the Tucson ABC affiliate's call letters, KGUN, which anchors frequently mentioned during the shooting coverage.

fox news· homicidal ideation· executive orders· k-gun· tucson· pre-crime

1:02:25 Yes. Yeah. Anyway. So it's your money and that's what they're doing with it. Good night everybody. Terror. Tragedy in Tucson. So, before we leave these topics, I want to get one more clip in. Please. Because we discussed the tragedy in Tucson and of course they're using it as a double-edged sword. In other words, they take some of these news stories and chop them away from the mainstream. And I think we've outlined the main ones. But also, the second and most compelling thing is the use of them for propagandizing the public against, turning the American public against itself.

1:03:05 limiting free speech, anti-gun legislation which we did not bring up but is part of Internet ID which is now on the books as well. Right and all these sorts of things but the other one which is the most onerous is this guy I've never seen him before shows up on Fox and I want to remind people out there who are listening to shows you know they watch Fox or they watch CNBC or whatever they watch that you know and we did determine some time ago Fox is not your friend now they are run by the Democrats and so Megan the hot blonde who I love who's Adam loves with who was made up to the hilt for this has this doctor on who I've never heard of before and I watch Fox a lot but I've never seen this guy but I guess you know he's the Fox the site psychiatric analyst or something that's a crazy title

1:03:57 comes out with this nonsense which I just made the hair on the back of my neck stand on and where it essentially advocates of essentially a fascist state if you listen between the lines play this Fox on Megan on Fox with doctor We don't know what they're talking about. The sheriff just said there were difficulties there. There was some petty anti-stuff with law enforcement, with some drug paraphernalia. But it's not exactly something that had red flags all over it, this guy's history. You know, it's... that's the disconcerting part to people out there now who are wondering, where's the next Jared Lochner?

1:04:36 Well, yes, but yes, that's true, that there are people who can do very dangerous or even homicidal things who don't raise red flags, but there are also people who raise tons of red flags again and again, and our system doesn't really respond to them because we do have law enforcement saying that he voiced homicidal ideation toward others in the past if that's an accurate report why wasn't he hospitalized or was he hospitalized in a locked psychiatric unit because that's one of the prongs that would get you put in a locked psychiatric unit homicidal ideation in the context of if it's present a mental illness and to get out should be tough because that risks other people's lives

1:05:17 But we don't have a continuum of care in this country, mental illness-wise, that's reliable at all. It's shattered. It's a good question. The sheriff didn't really get into that, about what exactly the follow-up was in response to those threats and why he wasn't arrested. I was a homicide what he called homicidal what ideation ideation idol ideation you should be locked up and it should be hard to get out if in other words we're talking about pre-crime or making idle threats hello but the president has signed executive orders for exactly that you can be picked up in this country and locked away without any due process for long as the president wants or should the president so wish you can be killed

1:06:00 This is all executive orders. I mean, yeah, enough said, right? You can be killed. But the fact that this is on Fox and expressed in a matter-of-fact way as a good thing, is a bad, you know, does not bode well for the people who listen to Fox. I mean, they're going to be brainwashed into thinking that this kind of... it's fascist. I mean, it's all just plain and simple. It's leading right to pre-crime and the rest of it. uh... which is you know he's been laughed about whole whole whole the fact of the matter is everything is headed that way and then they're promoting it another little uh... message that uh... that i could you catch the local affiliates call letters and i was on uh... k g u n

1:06:47 Which Shep Smith, I'm surprised you didn't have that clip, he kept saying, we've got our affiliate there, K-Gun. K-Gun. K-Gun. I didn't notice this. Yeah, K-Gun. K-G-U-N. Our affiliate on the ground there in Tucson is K-Gun. I think at one point he even said, boy can you believe that, the affiliate's name is K-Gun. We could have said K-G-U-N. But it was like so obvious, K-Gun. Which it is, it's K-G-U-N, it's not K-Gun. K-Gun. He kept saying K-Gun. Shooting you the news, K-Gun. We could do it, John. How come... You know, I could get made up, I could get gussied up like Megan. We could look good, we could be on Fox, and we could do shows. Yeah, and we could have the sound effects and the whole thing. We don't even need them as sound effects. We could have lower thirds. Dr. Dvorak. So, uh... I'll come up and throw the key away, that's what I says. Dr. Dvorak, welcome to Tragedy in Tucson.

1:07:51 thank you very much Megan oh my goodness all right let's thank a couple people who made our show possible we're not quite in the fox league of news casting salaries but we're happy not just with with what we receive from our five dollar a month subscribers are thirty dollars a look at thirty threes are nightly a ways are everyone who's a supporting the show of course said the human resources who are working very hard on no agenda stream dot com and uh... and uh... the uh... the not just a stream but the chat room all that stuff all of the initiative for very very happy i would building a community somehow it seems to be working for as long as it lasts

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Real Estate Promotion and De-Douching Requests

The hosts address listener feedback and promotional requests, including a mention for Barry Finnegan's San Diego real estate website. A debate ensues over the correct pronunciation of the word "realtor," with Dvorak insisting there is no extra vowel. Listener Steven Howard, known as "Autonomizer," receives a "de-douching" and "karma" for his contributions to the No Agenda stream, as the hosts adopt the title "Mavericks of Media."

barry finnegan· san diego· realtor· autonomizer· karma· mavericks of media

1:08:37 Yeah, until they put us on some list. And of course I wisely did not sign up to be following WikiLeaks, but my cohort here has and we'll see what happens. Let's do a couple of make-goods before we get to the main donors of this week's show, and that would be Barry Finnegan, who's a member of the 267 Club, which is never... you can't join anymore by the way. He wanted us that we did not mention his mynoagendarealtor.com site. Mynoagendarealtor.com site. He's a San Diego real estate guy. I think you pronounce it as realtor. Did I say realtor? You say realtor, which is kind of like the difference between well and good in my book. No, no, I don't think it's the same as well and good. I think realtor. It's realtor.

1:09:23 I think it's realtor. No, it's R-E-A-L-T-O-R. It's realtor. MyNoAgenda Realtor. I don't know why I say realtor. I think that's one of those things like nuke-alor. Nuclear. It's nuclear. I'll look it into the pronunciation, but you might be right. But I've always said realtor. Well, it's incorrect. I know. I'm looking at the word. It doesn't have an A in there. So why would it be real-a-tor? Because it's not. It's realtor. It's MyNoAgendaRealtor.com. Hey, well, he's a realtor. You've got karma.

1:10:15 and uh... steven howard who uh... was this exclusive member of the show oh no he wasn't i'm sorry he was just a seventy dollar by the way he's an autonomizer in the chat room and he also his drop box is in rotation on the no agenda stream. Autonomizer. He's looking for a de-douching and some karma. Alright, well, here we go. You've been de-douched. And he says, hold on, karma. You've got karma. I can feel that one. I can't thank you two wonderful gentlemen enough for this amazing show you have. You guys are truly the only Mavericks of media that I'm aware of. I think Mavericks of media. That's good. I'm liking that. I like it. Mavericks of media. These are your Mavericks of media. Adam Curry, John C. Devorah. Tragedy in Tucson.

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Producer Donations and Grin On Industries

Donations are acknowledged from several producers, including Thomas Nussbaum, David Bernard, and Bill Rudder. Sterling Ellsworth notes the impact of the "Obama recession" on his ability to contribute. The hosts also grant "karma" to Josh Springer, owner of Grin On Industries, which produces a bottom-up beer dispensing system that prevents spills and increases efficiency in high-volume environments.

thomas nussbaum· david bernard· bill rudder· sterling ellsworth· grin on industries

1:11:15 I like that because of you. That is amazing! That's amazing! We're so good. I like it. I like it, I like it, I like it. Yes, very good. Okay, Thomas Nussbaum. Sir Thomas Nussbaum, as a matter of fact. Virginia Beach, Virginia gave us $111.11 one-time donation for Nat Cole. Nat Cole's becoming a dame from Sir Nussbaum, her boyfriend. Okay. uh... will will look forward to uh... naco becoming a dame david bernard brooklyn new york one eleven eleven uh... bill rudder san jose california one eleven eleven uh... both new uh... uh... members of the no agenda producer family neils martens in deutschland out this i got a bunch of it you can you get the other word cuz i have a bunch of but i don't have the right font or something is just a mess i have their i'm more than

1:12:07 let me see i wasn't i was uh... some but i have i have the i've got the same thing it uh... i got like a crazy character okay there might be a little bit of land and i a nine ninety nine still hoping for shipment of the coin get ahold of eric uh... at uh... hill at no agenda nation dot com wishes is both a happy healthy critical mind for two eleven i think that we're getting there sterling ellsworth or sir sterling ellsworth as he should be known to by his friends at santa barbara seventy seven seventy seven spent a while but the obama recession is still killing me and us to body we giving more if it was possible and we appreciate warren carroll another new producer demoine washington sixty three thirty three didn't know there was a demoine washington please give karma to jose josh springer owner of grin on industries a high school friend

1:13:01 You've got karma. into the cup. It's like, you know, if you do that... Why does it not spill all over the place? You have to see it. If you did that in England, they would cut your head off. But it's very funny. It is indeed a very cool device. I wouldn't mind having one here at the watchtower. That'd be kind of funny.

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Dame Tanya Wyman and One Percenter Meme

Dame Tanya Wyman is recognized for reaching the $2,000 lifetime donation milestone, while other listeners contribute to receive "de-douchification" and "karma." A new meme is established by listener Bradley, who identifies as a "No Agenda One Percenter"—representing the small fraction of the audience that financially supports the show. Bobby Burden, an unemployed Perl programmer, requests and receives "job karma" to assist in his search for employment.

tanya wyman· bobby burden· perl programmer· australia· canada· one percenter

1:13:40 for all the beer i'm drinking it's sending free ones out for all the jars of houston texas 62 in the morning john nana about a year ago i included in a donation the remaining balance for my unemployment debt card since i found a new job well the job sucks a lot here's hoping for a lot of no agenda karma aid by continuing jobs yeah no problem here it comes you've got karma The job sucks. Well, that's basically, we just got some government cash. You got the job. I love it. Yeah, that's good. Tanya, Dame Tanya Wyman, New York City, $50.14. It just adds up to make her a double Dame. That's right. We're going to be Daming her again.

1:14:23 I just realized I was approaching the magic 2k mark so I thought I'd kick it enough to put her over the top. I will of course continue my $33.33 subscription. We encourage everyone else to do that. Thanks for the great shh- GREAT. She has it in all caps. Love you guys. You know, I think she loves you more than she loves me though. well that's for a good reason just saying david middlebrook gardens town abords the uh... u k wait wait wait we see what you just missed that i didn't want to i didn't want to go down the aberdeenshire yeah i mean everything shire everdeen shirley bucks andrew sawyer vancouver bc

1:15:00 and uh... joseph in your read to california fifty dollars is a donation for his brother isaac they'll do that in a moment if you were able to do that moment and finally a couple more are ryan thompson for colin's colorado you missed uh... you mister lisa all i'm sorry lisa lisa lang fitzroy north victoria off stride yeah uh... as a fifty dollar how much do you think people are still here despise it Whenever someone says something about Australia and does that stupid Australian accent, I don't think they give a crap I think they hate it. Yeah, the Australians don't seem to hate anything. They'll go good day, mate I'm sure they're like a douchebag or like when when someone's from Canada and someone and Americans go a a

1:15:46 I go to Canada all the time and say A constantly and they think they think it's great. Really? When's the last time you were in Canada? You haven't been in Canada since we've been doing this show. I go to Canada, I'm slipping into Canada tomorrow. Bradley, Green Bay, Wisconsin, $50. Due to my budget I will probably never become a Noah Gen tonight. I may never become an executive producer. But now I can probably say that I'm a no agenda one percenter. I finally made it. We got that up a meme a meme a one percenter. It's a meme. Yeah, I do too a one percenter I have finally made a donation and became part of the 1% of listeners that help support the show at whatever giving level they can afford. Thank you for all your hard work in creating such a great show. Thank you, Bradley. 1%er Brad. Rock on. And finally, Bobby Burden, another newbie out there. Cleveland, Tennessee. I didn't know there was a Cleveland, Tennessee. Hello in the morning. I'm donating to de-douchification. For who?

1:16:48 Him. For himself? Oh, okay. You've been de-douched. Hold on, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, the plug... A Dvorak and Celestial being curry, I need karma. Could you read that again because the plug, your plug keeps bopping out. Read that again. I am an out of work pearl programmer and need some work so please Demi-god Dvorak and Celestial being curry I need karma. Alright watch this, watch the job come, watch it happen. You've got karma. It happens, it can happen. Wait, in fact I'll give you a little uh... LEMME GO! Ooh, that was nice timing. Good job on that.

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony and Mothership Sighting in Peru

John C. Dvorak performs a formal knighting ceremony for Tanya Wyman, elevating her to a "Double Dame" of the No Agenda Roundtable for her continued support. Adam Curry reports on a purported "mothership" sighting over Lima, Peru, which was captured on video and featured on local news. The segment transitions into a discussion about Peruvian alpaca blankets and the functionality of the PocketNoAgenda mobile app used by Curry's wife, Miss Mickey.

tanya wyman· knighting· lima· peru· alpaca blankets· pocketnoagenda

1:17:32 all right so that's uh... is that it does that wrap it up yet for the donations are considered today we haven't had that birthdays in a while and this is from joseph lambs saying very happy birthday to his brother isaac lamb from uh... him and all of your buddies here at the no agenda show and uh... i think we should uh... Sharpen them up there, John. I got the big one. Oh, that's uh, we need that. That's very good because we need to invite Dame Tanya to step forward. I'm, you know, she likes you a little bit more. Maybe you should do the knighting of Dame Tanya. We can't, we can't step away from tradition. You may continue. Okay, Dame Tanya.

1:18:21 You have now coming up to the sufficient giving level of $2,000. Putting you in a very exclusive club. You are now twice the Dame you were before. Dame Tanya. Once again, Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable. Please join the Knights and the other Dames. They're happy to have you there once again. And we're very happy to have you as well. Dvorak org slash na is where you can support the show or channel Dvorak comm slash na or if you're completely confused and can't remember that go to No agenda show calm and you'll find the links there and don't forget we got one 1111 coming up in a couple of days and encourage everybody to kind of get this set themselves up with the various

1:19:14 fields of cosmic energies that will be created magically on that day. Well there's a couple things going on. One, and there's a link in the show notes, noagendashow.com and for those of you on the $33 mothership boarding pass, you're gonna be pretty happy when you see this because the mothership was stationary above Lima, Peru for about half an hour and it's on video multiple times so you can go take a look at that. It's big! and lots of blinking lights on it too all over the Peruvian news in the past couple days of course obfuscated by the tragedy in Tucson

1:19:55 Now what was this? This is the mothership. The mothership is here. It's in Lima, Peru. It was hanging above... What's it doing in Lima, Peru? They're looking for blankets? They need some warm wool blankets? What would you go there for? I don't know. I mean, they should be coming over here. But maybe they just... Maybe they took a... Blankets. I'm telling you, I always tell people when you go to Peru, and you can get... Most of the blankets are handmade, but you can get blankets. The blankets from Peru, especially the baby alpaca blankets, are the best in the world. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. Just send your ship over here. We need you here. So on the 11th of course is, oh thank you, Darnie. Mickey and Miss Mickey showing up with a fresh brew here. Thank you. Can you receive the show? Is it working on the app? Yeah. On the No Pocket No Agenda app? Love it.

1:20:52 uh... it does make you listen to the show on the pocket no agenda at the issue does well as you just sit there listen to you talk because she's got stuff to do she's a walking around doing stuff and uh... she just but she's like a commuter she's commuting from one side of the house to the other this is what but let's put it she's doing stuff i don't know what she does i'm i'm doing the show so i don't know what she does what what what my only come here honey i can't i can't hear you what it now now the whole thing broke uh... uh... okay what's pretty funny you do laundry playing housewife on sunday morning asker of rafael the pool boys around when you're doing the show i've seen that i've seen raf is rafael the pool boy around when i'm doing the show c she says you know i had an interesting conversation with her we'd we're talking about the george clooney's girlfriend

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Sudan Independence Referendum and George Clooney

Voting has commenced in a historic referendum to determine if Southern Sudan will become an independent nation. Actor George Clooney is actively monitoring the region via the Satellite Sentinel Project to deter violence and human rights abuses during the election. The hosts speculate on Clooney's personal and financial interests in the region's stability as the voting process unfolds.

sudan· referendum· george clooney· satellite sentinel project· independence

1:21:47 who by the way has because I saw her her butt and I said hey it looks like your butt and of course that was a good call and then you know she but she's like George Clooney's girlfriend has a whole career of being George Clooney's girlfriend I'm like that's not very that's not a very nice thing to say so that's a huge job and I guess she's right so yeah that would be a huge job so on Sunday anyway so moving ahead so Clooney anyway that today the uh... sudan uh... uh... starts voting uh... for their uh... this a referendum they start today and of course uh... i'm sure that uh... will have to have the international coalition of uh... ministry of truth come in and recount the votes but uh... apparently that the way it's being done the way they're voting in sudan and this is for the did does the southern sudan want to be independent of course the answer is yes they want to be independent for fifty years

1:22:43 uh... there's that picture of a one hand and a picture of two hands and one hand would be yes i want uh... southern sudan to be independent and the two hands is no i want it to be united and of course george clinton is watching via satellites and making sure no one is uh... getting killed so we'll see what happens uh... today and tomorrow is that the vote and george clinton is on watch nothing to worry about nothing to worry about stock portfolio is uh... of cloning Yeah, probably because he's probably got some investments that will skyrocket once that election is over. Something else that hit me and I was like, oh my gosh, this is... Do you remember we talked about what the issue was with South Korea and the United States and why we've kind of been

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

South Korea Free Trade and Foot-and-Mouth Disease

Following the finalization of a free trade agreement between the U.S. and South Korea, an outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease has led to the culling of over one million head of Korean livestock. The hosts suggest the timing is suspicious, as the destruction of local cattle and pigs creates an immediate market for U.S. beef imports. This follows years of Korean resistance to American beef based on cultural traditions and safety concerns.

south korea· free trade agreement· beef· foot-and-mouth disease· livestock· barack obama

1:23:30 uh... embroiled for a while and i told you based upon my uncle he was ambassador to south korea remember the whole thing about their beef i think you even told me about their beef as well you've been to south korea have you not of numerous time yeah uh... so from what i understand uh... in korea that the the culture of their beef is very long it's a family tradition they have cows that are passed on from for you know from family member to family member and they really do you know why i stop it for a second yes please as you bet as you began to introduce this topic i was kind of baffled thinking that you will buy beef you meant complaint

1:24:06 no i'm an actual beef like how like how yeah i know i've ever been stear meat yeah right that we talked about this right you do you have no we did because they have a long tradition got me there bulldog e and all these that we have a lot of dishes there that are peter very deep their big-time beef eaters in the that you know you basically when you go to a really great korean restaurant especially in korea e beef right and uh... and and they really didn't want two thousand eight uh... we were trying to get this free trade agreement and it was about US beef being imported and they're like no we don't want your beef we like our beef and I got my cow from my grandfather and it's from his father and you know like the Japanese and their rice right exactly so of course President Obama gets this free trade agreement done somehow I think it was what was it like he had North Korea threatened to bomb South Korea or something I'm not quite sure what happened but all of a sudden all of a sudden it showed up

1:25:03 And then what happens? So now we have no more tariffs, US beef can be freely imported. Oh my gosh! South Korea has called over a million heads of livestock to stop foot and mouth disease and bird flu. Now that to me is just... Coincidence? I think not! I mean, we get the free trade agreement and then all of a sudden foot-and-mouth is out of the blue we have to kill millions of animals 1.2 mostly cattle some pigs I guess that means you're gonna have to buy a little more of their beef than they expected yes they weren't stepping up to the plate I mean it just made them an offer and then they refused douchebags you should have listened the first time we told you just blew me away I'm like oh my gosh I can't believe and foot-and-mouth is one of those things that you know is

1:26:01 It's one of those crazy diseases. There's all kinds of stuff. Foot and mouth, I don't know, there's all kinds of stuff going on. Sounds like it was, you know... I'm sure the Koreans are suspicious. You think? You think? so i was i mean i would assume i'm thinking this cousin we just recently got a new uh... i have to steer and we're now ordering a uh... my wife's on some to kick about pork meat is apparently contaminated almost all commercial pork meat is contaminated with some you know it's got worms in it if you if you know i think some of this i got out there i did get the whole story and so we don't remember if you put in coca-cola the worms will come out i have seen the youtube clip i'm sure you have

1:26:46 So, uh... I was offered half a cow, by the way. The what? I was offered half a cow by two of our producers and, uh... Well, you should get it. Yes, no. What was the price? No, free! Free? Not only that, but I'll- But that's- Hey, I need some free meat too up here. Uh-uh, I don't think so. You don't need any free beef. No, and they've got like- I'll be promoting them when I get the whole story. But we gotta go on a day trip, Miss Mickey and I. Like an overnight trip. Just make sure you bring some coolers with you or some way of keeping the meat, because they're gonna have it probably frozen. Yeah. But whatever the case is, it's a couple bucks a pound generally at the most.

1:27:24 and uh... and it but it's so much so superior when you get this farm this farm stuff that is natural beef that's done by you know one person have three cows with three steer uh... there's is large-scale commercial beef that we have is inferior to what you get in korea well not anymore because it's dead it's buried It's completely buried. No, seriously. Another example of Americans promoting a... You know, we have to come to some conclusions about the quality of our products. We'd like to brag that we're number one, we're this, we're that, we're great. Our cars have always been second rate.

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Honeywell T-Hawk Drones in Florida Urban Areas

The Florida Police Department is testing the Honeywell T-Hawk, a small unmanned drone equipped with cameras for urban surveillance. While these drones are currently unarmed and weigh approximately 40 pounds, the hosts argue they are intended to acclimate the public to aerial surveillance before larger, armed versions are introduced. Honeywell has reportedly received FAA clearance to operate these devices in populated urban environments.

honeywell· t-hawk· drones· faa· florida· surveillance

1:28:01 David a lot of them have great designs and they work really you know they work for a while but they're they're essentially second-rate many of the products that we make in this country we make good products to begin with and then they they stay as we scale they get second-rate and we put up with it well let's look at a lot of sorry well let's look at this we make this program in the United States this is good this is first-rate Yeah. Okay, so that's good. That's a step up. We also make other good stuff. Luckily with the internet, scaling doesn't affect quality. Right. We got some other... I have a clip of something else that we make that is really good that we'll be selling soon to your local authorities.

1:28:43 You want to hear it? I'm interested. They're used in the war on terror but a spy in the sky like this may soon be watching you. They're called drones basically, unmanned planes equipped with cameras. This is the drone that Honeywell is selling to the Florida Police Department. This is a great report. Although it's off balance, there's only one channel for some reason. Hi everybody, get ready to meet the T-Hawk. It is drone technology that is being used very similar to what is being used over in Iraq and Afghanistan in the war on terror. And technology can be very exciting. Very exciting. Are you excited, John?

1:29:31 Well, you know these drones which have been around for a while by the way I've seen them at trade shows for at least almost 10 years They're not quite the same as the ones being used in Afghanistan. Not even close. I mean these are not even close They're very small little camera rinky-dinks. Yeah, and they can't shoot That's the key. But here's what the deal is. They want to introduce these things to the point where people are used to them. And then they'll bring in the big boys that can shoot you. Which look exactly... this is what I... you're so on the same track as I am, as usual. So these are little rinky dinks that weigh like 40 pounds. They can only fly for 40 minutes, which by the way, what? 40 minutes? I mean that's like a model airplane. But it looks exactly, it is a scaled down version of the Big Mother.

1:30:19 and when that thing's up in the sky at like 2,000 feet you won't be able to tell the difference between that one and the big and his big brother which can shoot when he when that thing's up at 5,000 feet you just it'll look like the same thing what's more interesting and of course that's in the report but it doesn't matter you don't have to play it is that Honeywell is now getting the FAA clearance to fly this in urban areas. Yay! Which is gonna be great. I'm just gonna rock. We got these drones flying around. Yeah, that's what we need. Drones flying around. This is like a science fiction movie we're living in. Uh, yeah.

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Fluoride Level Reductions and HHS Report

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the EPA have recommended lowering the level of fluoride in drinking water to 0.7 parts per million. The report acknowledges that over-fluoridation can cause dental fluorosis, resulting in brown spots on teeth. Adam Curry asserts that fluoride has historically been used as a pacifying agent and that the new guidelines simply ensure a "guaranteed" dose for the population.

fluoride· hhs· epa· dental fluorosis· water fluoridation

1:30:59 Yeah, so so I got some bad one. I got some real real justification which I although unfortunately people don't the good human resources don't seem to understand that this is a Solidification of what they've been doing for years and it ultimately will wind up. What is the what is the word? Oh, yes killing you is this report that came out from HHS Health and Human Services for the HR's. The HHS for the HR and the EPA came out with a report and said, hey you know, this fluoride in the water it could actually like mess your teeth up.

1:31:39 So I've been saying ever since we've been doing this show that fluoride in the water is a joke that is for your teeth. In fact, it does exactly what this report says. You're being over-fluoridated and it actually creates brown spots on your teeth. But of course what it's really meant for is to pacify you, to keep you a calm and docile and distracted slave. and the reason why I know this works is because it's in the literature. We read the books, the CIA used this in camps. They still do it. They fluoridate the water and everyone's like, hey, hey dude, come on by. So now they're saying, oh, there's too much fluoride in the water. We have to go to the lower limit, which is 0.7 parts per million or something. I have the report here. You have no response to this, John?

1:32:34 No, I was actually surprised that you brought it up. Really? Yeah, because it's just like, you know, I don't know. I thought this, it was interesting. well i think i think what that was kind of a cliche i think the whole point of what it is is like so now we're going to be guaranteed to have the floor right in the water that she did this now now it's like well you know what we've we figured it all out now it just has to be zero point seven instead of one point two so not everyone's gonna get it that's the way i see it that could be congratulations you're just gonna get it for sure so uh... is that right keith and jeff by the way who uh... in the santa ynez valley

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

Santa Ynez Valley Beef and Stewards of Gitmo Nation

Producers Keith and Jeff from the Santa Ynez Valley offer Adam Curry a half-cow of grass-fed, non-GMO beef and a stay at Fess Parker’s Wine Country Inn. In exchange for this hospitality, they are granted the title "Stewards of Gitmo Nation." The hosts discuss the superior quality of natural, farm-raised beef compared to commercial supermarket options.

santa ynez valley· fess parker· grass-fed beef· non-gmo· stewards of gitmo nation

1:33:14 who have the half a cow for me. Oh really? Mm-hmm. Santa Ynez Valley? Yeah, whatever. And they're giving us a freedom. I-N-E-Z is Ynez? Yes. What did you, how did you pronounce it? I-N-E-Z? Santa Ynez, Santa Ynez? Is that what it is? Santa Ynez. Santa Ynez. Santa Ynez Valley. They're a They're, so they can have a cow butchered and ready for freezing, grass-fed, non-GMO. Yeah. A free room at Fess Parker's Wine Country Inn in Los Olivos. Yeah, it's a good winery. Two free tastings at the winery. Two free wine or beer tastings at Bin 2860. Two free tastings at Sarlou's and Son's.

1:34:05 and you have a nice little day a nice day trip and the all in exchange the only thing they want is to have the title of stewards of Gitmo nation Oh, well what do I get out of it? I'm sure if you want a half a cow you can then they'll be happy to facilitate you. Half a cow for the steward. Well, okay, listen, we'll talk about this in a meeting. Oh, you definitely want to get the cow. Keith and Jeff, you're screwed. If we've got to have a meeting, it'll never happen, dudes. It's all over. It'll never happen. Give them the steward thing. Steward. I think it's worth it. Well yeah, anything to get you off of that Safeway beef. Safeway? Safeway beef? Give me a break. It's only beef you throw it on the frying pan and green ooze comes out. Yeah, then it's not good. Algeria is erupting in violence over food prices. This is the first, I think, the first real food riots that are taking place in the world.

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Global Food Price Inflation and Algeria Riots

Violent food riots have erupted in Algeria as global commodity prices reach record highs, according to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO). Double-digit food inflation is affecting major economies like China and India, while Kenya has issued famine alerts. World Bank President Robert Zoellick has urged the G20 to avoid protectionist measures and ensure adequate food supplies for the poor as prices for sugar and meat continue to climb.

algeria· food riots· inflation· fao· united nations· robert zoellick

1:35:04 Yeah, commodity prices, even though that doesn't seem to be affecting inflation according to the official government numbers, are just completely out of control. The food prices are just skyrocketing. Yeah, this report... Worldwide. Yeah, China and India, double-digit food inflation. The Kenyan government has issued a drought and famine alert. after several people have died from hunger related causes I love that hunger related like you starved okay it's hunger related is starvation the real word hunger related starvation no it's hunger related causes John are you crazy international organizations are talking of food price shock hitting the world Wow the FAO what is that the Food Administration something office

1:35:57 No, I don't know what the FAO is. It's probably a, it's like a probably a UN... Let's look it up. It's just FAO. I mean, come on. Let me do it. Go ahead. Keep talking. The FAO announced on, I think it's a UN division, announced that its food price index had jumped. Food and agricultural organization. Of the United Nations. guarantee yes yep yep uh... that's because those guys track it because they're in charge of all that i think the by the way i want to compliment you for that you know i didn't mention on the thursday show but that clip from that john birch society guy was outstanding the guy who was a crackpot back in his day is a crackpot in the sixties and now he's like it sounds like you know b sounds more concerned sounds more mainstream than glenn beck

1:36:41 So, um, great. So we know what I have to look forward to when I'm dead and someone's playing my YouTube clip. They're gonna say, well, that guy seems like kind of a liberal. Kind of. He must have been run by the Democrats. FAO announced on Wednesday its food price index had jumped to 214.7 points from the peak of 213, whatever the hell that means. Prices of sugar and meat are their highest since its records began in 1990. World Bank president, who of course are going... Robert Zulich urged governments in a newspaper opinion column to avoid protectionist measures as food prices rise and called upon the group of 20 leading economies to take steps to make sure the poor get adequate food supply.

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Risperdal Side Effects and Sleepwalking Claims

Lawyers are mounting a lawsuit against the makers of Risperdal, an antipsychotic drug frequently prescribed off-label to children for behavioral issues. Side effects include gynecomastia, a condition where young boys develop breasts, as well as diabetes and pancreatitis. The segment links pharmaceutical influence to the Tucson shooting, noting that suspect Jared Loughner claimed in videos to be a "sleepwalker," a trait the hosts associate with MKUltra-style conditioning.

risperdal· gynecomastia· fda· jared loughner· mkultra· antidepressants

1:37:32 Right well code for let him die. Yeah of hunger of hunger related diseases We laugh, but that's only because it's not that funny um I had something else. Oh, I had a I had a crazy clip about one of these Crazy ass antidepressants that they're not supposed to give to kids, but they are see what the name off label Yeah, it's an off that we were talking about that the other day the off label stuff See if I can find the clip yeah risk risk risk risk Risperdal risperdal

1:38:19 Yeah. And it's, they give it to kids as an antidepressant but it's only meant for adults and it has some interesting side effects. Probably side effects that are enjoyed at the Pentagon. It's the psychiatry drugs that actually are turning out to be the number one problem. Causing diabetes, pancreatitis, boys to grow breasts, did you know that? Hello? Boys growing breasts. And you gotta see this video, it's disturbing. We have at this time approximately 50 children and teenagers who've developed gynecomastia, which is growing breasts as a result of risperdal.

1:39:00 Even though the FDA approved the drug only for adult patients who are psychotic, doctors widely prescribed it to kids for less severe behavior problems. It's a very, very powerful drug. Our clients who have gynecomastia and the consumers that do not have it, or the little boys that have not come to us yet, the effects of gynecomastia are immense. These are a couple of lawyers who are looking to mount a big lawsuit, of course, that's why they're on TV, but it's pretty disturbing and of course it says in the disclaimer you know gas you can get gas deal more deal much whatever it is if they just put like you may grow boobs i think people with you know think twice about it but stop people from taking it but it's horrible it's horrible talking about drugs and their weird effects do you'd note one of the things that was the reply just going back to our original story about the shooting of uh... of uh... gifford of uh... you mean the judge who was killed here

1:39:59 Well, I'm not buying the judge thing. I think that was just a coincidence personally because there was no evidence that anyone knew he's gonna be there. But anyway, beside the point, the guy, the kid who did the shooting... The reporting is so on track, yeah. Right. Well, it could be bullshit, but I'm just saying I'm not buying it. The kid who did the shooting did make a comment in one of his YouTube videos that he was a sleepwalker. Right, well that's where the MKUltra comes from. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to mention that. Yeah, no, thank you. Thank you very much. He was a sleepwalker. Wow, and I didn't expect you to mention that and I actually put a, not to mention on the show, but it's in the show notes, I have a heading MKUltra which discusses exactly that. Now he says like he was walking unconscious or something like that and what kind of, the whole thing is weird. Let's, you know, let's just, can we just leave it be? Tragedy in Tucson.

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

TSA Body Scanner Radiation and Airport Security

The safety of TSA full-body scanners is questioned following reports in the Seattle Times and New York Times regarding radiation exposure and equipment malfunctions. John C. Dvorak describes his experience at the Las Vegas airport, observing TSA agents standing in close proximity to active scanners for extended periods. The hosts express concern over the long-term health effects of "spurious radiation" on both passengers and security personnel.

tsa· body scanners· radiation· backscatter· las vegas· x-rays

1:40:54 What I found to be interesting, two articles, one from the Seattle Times, one from the New York Times, regarding the, of course this is a story that has been snowed under, the naked body scanners from the TSA. Seattle Times says the amount of radiation generated by a properly calibrated full-body device in a typical 15 second scan is equal to about an hour of normal background radiation the TSA says. Yeah. So that's bullcrap. 240 times. Let's get some tests.

1:41:31 New York Times, two other patients were overdosed before the hospital realized that the device, a linear accelerator, had inexplicably allowed radiation to spill outside a heavy metal cone attachment that was supposed to channel the beam to a specific spot in the brain. This happened a month later at the same hospital. This is a radiation device. They're not being operated by the ones at the airports. They're not being operated by professionals. Yeah, and even the professionals screw it up. So I'm going, I'm leaving from Las Vegas. I would make sure you show up two hours before it took me 10 minutes to get through security at the city airport for an hour. So anyway, so I'm going through and I took the you know, though I went through the metal detector, but there was this there was a radiation. Did you opt out or you just didn't have to go? No, no, I just I got in the right line. I didn't have to opt out. Oh, good. I would have opted out but I didn't have to. Oh, good man could have gotten in the other line. Well, wait a minute. But you're a terrorist. How come you know you're suspected?

1:42:30 how come you just get through what i got it says no i'm not a terrible filing is that what i did not subscribe to wiki leaks twitter feed it and six hundred thousand terrorists who subscribe to the wiki leaks feed their the ones that have to be x-ray i'm fine let me check and see if i'm actually following them i think i know you may be a bit full of crap now you're worried yes i'm are you kidding me you worried yourself with the commentary that's funny to reduce anyways i'm going through and but they have the thing there and there's some woman that works for the tsa and there he's barking out louder that take your shoes off take your belts off if you're going to be a bad rider and water right now like that yeah and so this woman is one who TSA woman is standing in front of the machine

1:43:14 The whole time and when somebody gets in she goes back and stands there's like she's guarding the gate into the into the this is one of the round machines that looks like a tube as opposed to the backscatter machine that has the right this is the one that spins around yeah this is the one that's crap I am following wiki leaks are crap you're doomed so anyway so So she kept standing, I'm thinking how much radiation, spurious radiation is this woman receiving on a daily basis? She has to stand right there, right up against the machine constantly. Yeah, tons.

1:43:50 That whole area must just be loaded with spurious x-rays. You got x-rays doing your suitcase, I had some idiot, some trainee who looked like she had an IQ of close to 70. And couldn't see anything, so I had to wait forever to get my bag through. And then this woman stands, and she's pounding the button on the x-ray you know making it go harder you know murder you push a button and need more power more power my suitcase comes through which comes through with smoke coming out put more power on it if only I could get the lithium crystals it would be better

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Anti-Capitalist Rhetoric on CNBC and Media

The hosts identify a growing trend of anti-capitalist sentiment in mainstream media, specifically citing an interview on CNBC with author Graham Maxton. Maxton, promoting his book "In Darkenment," argues that free-market economics and the "invisible hand" have failed and that commodities like oil are underpriced. The hosts suggest that General Electric, the parent company of CNBC, may be using its platform to promote a more regulated, statist economic model.

cnbc· capitalism· graham maxton· in darkenment· laissez-faire· general electric

1:44:34 Anyway, so a quick trip around keep my nation John just to see what's going on and all around These states a good boy. Take our quick trip. Let me I do have a couple clips I want to get out of the way Oh sure I'd love to hear some because we're talking about the basic some of the basic changes that are taking place in the psyche of the of the listening public and I brought this up on the last show I didn't have a clip about how Joy Behar for example has got the you know there's no proof that the tax she's on Twitter by the way I'm following her too well I deserve to be picked up for that the WikiLeaks thing is one thing but actually following Joy Behar it should be illegal

1:45:15 So I ran into, so I'm starting to see, here's what I want people to listen out for and send me some examples of a blatant and basic anti-capitalist uh... approach to every in other words we should get rid of capitalism completely it's a bad system i don't know what they want to replace it with but this is showing up all over the place only i've got two clips that have anti-capitalist grants one came from cbc cnbc world which is the anti-capitalist rant and then i have arms are not the communist on cnbc which one you want first

1:45:52 Yeah, the communist on CNBC. He actually wrote a book called in Dark and mint Which is a really funny because it's supposed to be like the opposite of enlightenment ha ha Just play a little bit where he starts getting into as the system's no good We got to change it and the CNBC guys are just oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, they're not asking any questions. Who is this guy? What's his name? Who is he? Well, he's the guy wrote this book in dark and me now you have to look it up. Okay, but But the point is that they don't question this guy. It's just ridiculous that this guy comes out with this rant and nobody says anything. Well, maybe the book is being published by a GE subsidiary or something. They need to shut up and just plug the book.

1:46:35 Squark Asia on a Tuesday morning we're back with Graham Axton our guest host chief connoisseur at the Insight Bureau. Oh, this is the douchebag who asked Sanderson what it was like. What does it feel like to be a billionaire? Does it feel good? Does it give you wood? That's this guy right? uh... maybe. Yeah, it's this guy. Still with us around the desk here at the SGX and during a break we're starting to talk about this book you're working on, a new one from enlightenment to in darkenment. A term which you coined. What's it about? Okay, well if we go back a couple hundred years we had the European and the US enlightened. Oh, he's British, that's why. You get instant cred. Oh, he's British. He speaks with a British accent so he must the intellectual endowment.

1:47:28 That's a very interesting use of words. We've created, yes, someone did create it. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Come on John, you watch this interview? I want you to notice the guy who asked that question is a CNBC guy? Yeah, he just out of the blue, oh so let's just get to the point of your book. I mean that was promotion.

1:48:13 It's a point that there may be promotion, but the point is why would a CNBC come up with that? Yeah, we need to get rid of capitalism right because it's well who knows you know what I don't play anymore that no I want to hear this clip this is now you've got my interest because Something is going on with CNBC and they've got an agenda to promote and they're using that's General Electric by the way Yeah, and this guy is part of it. I'm you know I'm interested now in the next few decades We're killing ourselves. We're moving backwards And, you know, we're heading to the Dark Ages if we don't turn around. So do we need an alternative to the market economy, to capitalism? Yes, I mean, I think a lot of this is caused by economics. Economics has got it wrong. We've been following this idea of laissez-faire, the invisible hand and free market economics without any restraint.

1:48:57 and and it was a lot of failure of regulation because the financial crisis a few years ago as a failure of the market that we can buy all for four ninety three dollars a barrel today when it should cost perhaps nine hundred dollars dot if you look at the the environmental cost if you look at the cost of our own future generations of it not being there were paying uh... far less than we should be proud of the commodities and and that will eventually correct itself what about survivalistic what about evolution twenty eleven were here because ostensibly if you believe darwin for the rest of the brief And if you believe Darwin, oh, come on. Hold on a second. I just gotta go I gotta shoot myself here for a second Whoa, it jammed. Yeah the jam There you go, yeah through and through do you want more of this

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

Stephen Hawking Sighting in Los Angeles

Adam Curry recounts a personal encounter with physicist Stephen Hawking at a restaurant in Los Angeles. Curry describes the scene of Hawking being fed by an assistant and notes the "weird irony" of one of the world's most brilliant minds being in such a physically diminished state. Despite the awkwardness of the situation, Curry mentions that Hawking appeared to acknowledge his wife, Miss Mickey, with a wink.

stephen hawking· los angeles· le mondrian· cambridge· physics

1:49:46 Well, no, it gets worse. But anyway, the point is... Yeah, no, well, should we listen to it? Because that's funny. Go ahead. You seem to be intrigued by this bullcrap. By the way, I was having dinner in a restaurant here in L.A., and you know who was at the table right behind me? Stephen Hawkins. No. Yeah. Does he live in L.A.? I didn't think so, right? No, he lives in England. He teaches at Cambridge. He was at Le Mondrian Hotel. We were having a dinner at Asia de Cuba. Did you go over and say, ask for his autograph? No, it was the weirdest thing. We were there with two guests from, Mick and I had taken two guests out to dinner.

1:50:23 And I said, you know, dude's behind you right there because I'm looking right at their table. I think it's Stephen Hawkins. And they look at it, absolutely. And it was like a group of young people. So it looked like maybe students or maybe it was like a meet and greet. It was a tweet up. it was like a meet and greet and he has this uh... kind of attractive uh... heavy set blonde girl uh... he always has a good looking woman with him yeah and uh... and it's kind of weird though because she's feeding him and the way she does is she holds onto the top of his head and then pulls his head back a little bit and his mouth kind of falls open and she shoves the mush in there which is weird and it's like it's kind of sad to see him

1:51:09 You know, it's like one of the most brilliant minds in the universe with like mush dribbling over his chin and out of the sides of his mouth and was just kind of weird. Yeah, it's one of life's weird ironies. It really is. I'm surprised you didn't try to capture that with your iPhone. Well, no, because I'm just like because Mickey was saying hey she go over there and take a picture with him like I don't want to be like I admire your work. I love your work man. Like I've ever read a whole book of yours is like impossible.

1:51:46 But I felt like it. You were in the douchebag zone. I was very close to being in the douchebag zone. And then, so we left and we walk out and then Mickey was like, she's horrible. And I said, wow, you know, and I actually mentioned it, so that's kind of weird, you know, to see all the goop dribbling out of his mouth. He said, yeah, but he winked at me. I'm like, bullshit. What? He probably did. I think he did too. He winked at Mickey and then and when he winked that was chair turned left But anyway, yeah, it was weird it was weird um she can write in their memoirs it was a brush with greatness

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Peak Water and Global Economic Models

The discussion shifts to the concept of "peak water" and the perceived unsustainability of Western consumption patterns. While some analysts suggest the Chinese statist model may prove stronger than Western capitalism, the hosts point to "ghost cities" in China as evidence of a different kind of economic failure. The segment concludes with a look at social management models in Germany and Japan, which some argue provide better welfare for citizens than the American system.

peak water· china· germany· japan· social management· capitalism

1:52:31 as it were. Alright, back to some other douchebag here in London. We can't figure this out? Why are we killing ourselves? Why are we killing ourselves? John, good morning in the morning to you, John. Can I ask you a question? Why are we killing ourselves? Oh, it's terrible. Peak oil. By the way, new term to look out for everybody out there, peak water. Oh, peak water. Oh, nice. Peak water. Wow. Prediction book. I've heard that on a couple of shows. Yeah, good one. I'm interested in this clip, I want to listen to some more. We've been seduced by this idea that we can have it all. We can have it all today. We don't have to worry about how much we borrow, we don't have to worry about how many resources we use, about what we do to the planet in terms of emptying the sea of fish or polluting the skies. Is this a recent phenomenon? Because you look back one and a half, maybe two generations, our grandparents were very different, very fiscally conservative. Saving, saving, saving. We didn't have credit cards in those days. It started at the end of the 70s and beginning of the 80s.

1:53:26 Oh, before I forget, the Kardashians, their credit card, they're being sued by the credit card company. They walked away from the deal even though they signed the contract. Oh yeah, oh yeah. And they said well we don't want to be a part of that predator, because you know they heard us obviously talking about all the fees and everything and how these poor kids are gonna get screwed on their stupid Kardashian credit card. I always imagine that the Kardashians listen to us religiously. While they're in the gym. That's, I'm telling you they're in Equinox. And they're in the gym and they're listening to no agenda. With Ronald Reagan. And they're digging this whole peak water thing. Margaret Thatcher and Milton Friedman, their whole idea is of pushing the free market. And we've led this life where we've borrowed too much, we've consumed too much, and now we're at a tipping point. And unless we change what we're doing, then the whole of humankind is going to move in the wrong direction. Part of this is the rise of China as well, which is added to the... But the statist Chinese model

1:54:27 Red capitalism, if you want to call it that. That's not sustainable either. No, but actually I think over the short term, the Chinese model is likely to prove stronger than the Western model. Because... Okay, let me just call bullshit on that. If you go to the show notes... NoahJendershow.com you will see the ghost cities of China. Have you seen this John? Oh I want to visit a couple of these places. Well there's tons of them. There's tons of them and they're just fascinating. They're beautiful. It's like, let me see what's the name of this, businessinsider.com has satellite images and close-ups of these 20 cities being built every single year and no one's in them.

1:55:09 No, they're dead empty. But there's like beautiful structures. I want to see one of them because I wonder how true these stories are. Oh my god. I actually believe, I mean it's a believable story. Yeah, there's these cities because the Chinese love they love building stuff and I doesn't they love building stuff in shiny packages that we buy typically just like making things but anyway yeah I have to get that verified though well these satellite pictures look really convincing the zing zow new district empty towers empty streets all right it's in the show notes john no agenda show.com you certainly you've heard of the site now okay now you see you don't have to listen to the rest I like this guy I want to hear more it's this is I'm getting good material from his companies don't have to make a profit isn't China you know we were talking about the soft line isn't China a large part of the problem I mean an economy this size this scale growing in 10

1:56:10 percent a year. I mean, this is a hungry beast that needs to be fed. No, for sure. I know there are people in Washington who wish that China would just go away because, of course, they're competing for resources today and they're competing for all sorts of other economic factors as well. And yes, China, 1.3, 1.4 billion people that need resources, that need food, that need water, that need oil. The rise of China has certainly accelerated this problem. But of course that's here and that's a fact now and we have to somehow manage ourselves around that. We need basically to reform our economic system, which is what the book is about. Okay, I'll tell you what. Reforms then. What are the alternatives?

1:56:48 Well, we have to, I think, move away from completely under-regulated markets. We have to start regulating much more. But isn't this such an old story? Doesn't this guy know by now that these so-called unregulated markets are BS, it's corrupt and it's crooked? I mean is everyone stupid? No the regulated markets are corrupt, they're all corrupt. They're all corrupt but I mean but they're saying the guy is basically saying there was no oversight you know it's like completely the laissez-faire. There was plenty of oversight that didn't work. Yeah it was just corrupt, it's just corrupt. Much more I think government intervention I think we need to constrain the development of a lot of big corporations which seem to be taking far more power Which are not democratic institutions the phrase big brother starts to exactly good that well

1:57:35 You know people begin to think of communist states or but if you still look at countries like Germany or Japan I'm not that Japan's a model of economic management, but in terms of social management in terms of of providing Welfare for the citizens. These are better social models interesting okay? She's coming interesting how interesting all right why don't you blow me prick so we have the we have the you know kind of hoity-toity of anti-capitalist rant so I flip it around I catch Joy Behar interviewing Roseanne Barr oh yeah okay Roseanne Barr your favorites who wants to be president

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Roseanne Barr and Joy Behar on Capitalism

Roseanne Barr appeared on Joy Behar's program to promote her book and criticize the capitalist system, despite having earned millions through it. Barr also criticized Oprah Winfrey for not dedicating more programming to the flaws of capitalism. The hosts note the irony of Barr and conservative Ted Nugent finding common ground during a joint appearance on Anderson Cooper 360, suggesting that book promotion often leads to unusual political alignments.

roseanne barr· joy behar· oprah winfrey· ted nugent· anderson cooper· capitalism

1:58:17 And so Roseanne, this is the reason she's on the show, but she starts, she does an anti-cap, at first I thought she was gonna be a big defender of capitalism, the way she presents it, and then she goes on and tells it what she really feels, and here's a woman who's made millions and millions and millions of dollars on her, through basically through a capitalistic system, and listen to the anti-capitalist rant here. And Behar of course listens to this crap without saying anything critical. When meanwhile she's like goes on and on about anyone who says anything about global warming being you know She just blasted it Bay Har is a disgusting person Generally speaking. She's just a ridiculous, but this is this is a quite a music wait until Pierce Morgan comes on CNN you think you think all Pierce Morgan is going to be the worst

1:59:06 Reaganomics, they don't work and it's not a good system. Okay, now you also go after Oprah in your book. What are you trying to get her to do? I don't go after Oprah! You said Oprah has never done a show on capitalism which made her a billionaire and that pisses me off. It does piss me off! Well, why? Because we should have a whole bunch of shows about capitalism right now. But in other words, just because she made a lot of money, she should talk about capitalism? Yes, absolutely. Well, you made a lot of money, you don't talk about capitalism. The hell if I don't talk about capitalism, Joy, you're wrong again. My book's all about capitalism and how much it sucks. What do you think of that? But when you've made a billion dollars, maybe you don't think it sucks. Just because you're rich doesn't mean you're... Why am I screaming? A capitalist. Doesn't mean you're horrible.

1:59:53 I've done a lot of good things with my money, Joy. I know. And I love it. I get a big, big thrill in my life, I just have to say this, when I give money to a good cause. And I give... Did she give money to Haiti? Tell me she gave some money to Haiti, please. Oh, she had to. Please tell me you gave to Haiti, Roseanne. Significant. I hate that I'm saying this, because I'm going to go to hell. We have a significant amount of charity and a lot of rich people do. I know they do. A lot of people are real good and they're not all, you know, and Oprah's good too. Yeah. But I wanted to talk about capitalism. Well maybe- Because that's why we're in trouble. Well maybe- By the way, nice backpedaling pussy. Oprah's good too.

2:00:31 She's like, shit, I want to be on Oprah's show. I just want to talk about capitalism because that's why we're in trouble. This was exactly what this other asshole said. Maybe she doesn't feel like it. She has a new network so maybe she'll do it over there. I hope so. Well let's hope so. Okay now, you're also a big supporter. Let's hope so. So Roseanne was on a special Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper 360 with Ted Nugent who also has a book out. called Ted White and Blue. And those two agreed! Roseanne and Ted Nugent were in agreement with each other on a lot of stuff. I had to turn it off. Really? Yeah. That's mind-boggling. It was, yeah. It was quite mind-boggling. Like, well, wait until you get to the part where he pours deer urine on himself and goes bow and arrow hunting. Maybe you're a little different there, but they never got to it.

2:01:24 It was like, but you know they have books to promote. When you're promoting a book then it's like you don't make waves and stuff. I don't know. It was weird. Very weird. You know, it's Anderson. You don't make problems on Anderson because he's keeping you honest. You gotta be careful man. Anderson will... We gotta get that little clip. Keeping you honest. He says it all the time. All right. Better in balance. Keeping you honest. All these little buzz phrases. Ours is the Mavericks of Media. Was it the Mavens? No, Mavericks. Mavericks. The Mavericks of Media. you gotta do your sucking sound. The Mavericks of... wait. Whoa, wait! Wait, wait. The Mavericks of media. So quick trip around Gitmo Nation. Of course we already talked about the drone and the Commerce Department with Gary Locke, the Chinese spy, getting this cyber security ID thing rolling, so keep your eye out on that. Gitmo Nation East, fantastic video from Virgin Atlantic.

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German Dioxin Contamination and Food Safety

Germany is facing a major food safety crisis after illegal levels of dioxin were detected in poultry and eggs, likely stemming from contaminated feed. Several countries, including South Korea and Slovakia, have banned German agricultural imports, and contaminated products have been traced to cakes in the United Kingdom. Dioxin is a toxic industrial byproduct linked to increased cancer rates, leading to widespread health concerns across Europe.

germany· dioxin· poultry· eggs· south korea· slovakia

2:02:25 You have to see this, you can see it on YouTube. In this video, it's got like an all-seeing eye, chemtrails, masonic hand signals, pyramids, five-pointed stars, phallic symbols, and my favorite, people going through the naked body scanner and dancing. It is amazing. You have to see this video, you will crack up. So they pass by the body scanner and you see them in their underwear and they're like dancing and all happy and stuff. It's nuts. Like Richard Branson is New World Order. Then we have a big story out of Gitmo Nation, Deutschland, where Germany detected illegal dioxin levels in poultry products. Dioxin, of course, is not good for you, John. What is a dioxin? What is it used for? I don't know that it's used for anything. I know it's a byproduct of degradation of various types of chemicals, mostly pesticides.

2:03:24 I believe. And let's see what it's used for. Let me grab the Merck index. I have dioxins are contaminants that often result from industrial combustion and exposure to them at high levels is linked to an increased incidence of cancer. Yeah, no, well that's bad, bad stuff. So it's been found in eggs, as you would say, eggs. Eggs. South Korea, Slovakia have banned the sale of German imports. Britain found dioxin in their cakes that had eggs from Germany. Gitmo Nation Lowlands, dioxin from Germany! So everyone's getting poisoned there thanks to Gitmo Nation Deutschland.

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Dutch Coffee Shop Closures and Roundup Fire

A massive fire at a chemical factory near Rotterdam released a cloud of smoke containing Monsanto's Roundup herbicide, prompting health warnings in the Netherlands. Simultaneously, the Dutch government is moving to close 187 of Amsterdam's 223 cannabis "coffee shops" due to new regulations prohibiting them within 350 meters of schools. The hosts view these developments, along with the introduction of a "weed pass" ID system, as a move toward greater state control and harmonization within the EU.

amsterdam· coffee shops· cannabis· monsanto· roundup· rotterdam

2:04:12 In the lowlands by the way, no problem poisoning themselves, huge fire just outside of Rotterdam in a chemical factory and of course everyone was like, oh don't worry it's no problem, just stay indoors. The factory housed a large stash of Monsanto's Roundup Ready. You are so gonna die, oh my god. yes we are uh... we are definitely keeping our eye on the air quality the official said my god is horrible that this huge poisonous cloud floating around. Yeah, that's probably no coincidence. Yeah. What else happened in the lowlands? Oh, six of the ten coffee shops will be closing thanks to the new government. Now coffee shops of course is where they don't sell coffee but where they sell weed.

2:05:06 So that's all over. Really? In Amsterdam? Countrywide, but I have the exact numbers for Amsterdam if you give me a second here. This is from the People's newspaper. That's kind of ridiculous. What's the point? Well it's Europe. We have to harmonize. We've got to close. We've got to get rid of it. You can't have drugs in one country and no drugs in the rest. Why not? In the United States, because supposedly the EU is a federal system, bullcrap. And in the United States we have one state, Nevada, or Nevada depending on what part of Nevada you're from, which has legalized prostitution statewide where they don't have that anyplace else. I would not argue with you but of course that is not really true. You need to shut up slave, slave states shut up and do what they say in Brussels.

2:05:55 alternately and I'm surprised that the Dutch put up with this crap oh but well listen they're breathing roundup ready and drinking fluoride what do you mean like a what and if they all went out and got their flu shot they're completely drugged except for the human resources aren't listen our show how many coffee shops do you think Amsterdam has I have the number here How many did they have? How many do they have currently that sell weed? Last time I was there, which was a couple years ago, I can almost remember at least a dozen. All of Amsterdam, it's a lot more than that, obviously. Maybe 50. 223. Okay, well that's a lot. According to the new regulation, 187 of them will have to close. Why?

2:06:41 Oh, because they're not allowed to have a coffee shop within 350 meters of any school zone. Huh. Which is 350 meters, that's like a thousand feet. I find it hard to believe that 187 of them are within a thousand feet of a school zone. It's a city. The school zone may be a... Yeah, well it's a city. And it's all kinds of schools. And it's like you've got the University of Amsterdam as a school. You know, they've got all kinds of... the whole city is a campus. that's over and of course they still have the weed credentials the weed they call it the weed pass to get a passport to go get weeds to go get your weeds ID please show me your papers you can smoke some weed so anyway that's Gitmo Nation Lowlands then we have Gitmo Nation Sweet Butts which is Brazil they just actually launched their new national ID card hey this kind of blows us moving to Brazil John

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Brazil National ID and Chipping the Elderly

Brazil has launched a new national ID card featuring a chip with fingerprints, voter information, and 17 security features to prevent fraud. In the Netherlands, there are emerging proposals to use RFID chips to track elderly citizens with dementia to prevent them from getting lost. The hosts compare these tracking initiatives to "Soylent Green" and express concern over the normalization of biometric surveillance for vulnerable populations.

brazil· national id· biometric· rfid· netherlands· elderly care

2:07:48 The national, December 30, 2010, the national ID card from the Civil Identity Registry was launched in Brazil. uh... the issuance of the new i d cards all brazilians are each registered under a unique national number which is tattooed on their arms on sorry made that up uh... which will avoid registration of individuals in more than one state the card will become will come with a chip containing the person's fingerprints internal revenue service number voter card number information on gender nationality date of birth and photograph signature and the issuing registrar the new ID card has 17 security features designed to deter fraud mm-hmm oh by the way give my nation lowlands I almost forgot the biggest news oh my god I can't believe it the they now are saying that we need to chip our elderly in the lowlands because you know they get confused and we have to be able to find them so we're they want

2:08:51 and they want to set it up so that uh... above a certain age you get shipped and sold as beef is half an elderly for you. Soylent green is people. It's good, yeah exactly. It's good to freeze them. It's just unbelievable. So that I think is the trip around Gitmo Nation. Then I have one final clip. I've been waiting to play this for the entire show. And this I think it actually corroborates my research from the last program we had regarding the Duggs.

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HAARP Theory and Arkansas Bird Kills

Adam Curry revisits his theory that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) was responsible for the mass bird deaths in Beebe, Arkansas. He cites a local news report showing a stationary, high-energy "blotch" on weather radar at the time of the event, which the National Weather Service could not identify as precipitation or smoke. Curry suggests the birds flew into a high-energy force field created by HAARP testing related to the New Madrid fault line.

haarp· beebe· arkansas· radar· national weather service· new madrid fault

2:09:34 and the birds and being crushed in midair and falling to their peril and their deaths in the region. I love the new theories that are coming out. Well this is still my theory. This is still the harp theory. This is not a new theory. Yeah, which you should have brought up the first time but you know. Well excuse me for like having to go through all the disinformation. But here, so this is my theory. By the way, have you heard the bad eyesight theory? No. They didn't eat enough carrots? What is it? Basically, it goes like this. Apparently, they have red-winged blackbirds in particular and have the kill-offs constantly.

2:10:18 Because they fly in a very tight formation because they have bad eyesight, they can barely see anything. And the leader bird, who's leading the way, sometimes gets confused and he'll run into the side of a mountain and all the birds will follow him right in, kind of like the Thunderbirds, Air Force jets when they crash every so often. and they can't stop themselves and so it's like lemmings this happens apparently a lot with black birds or with red winged black birds in particular. They have bad eyesight. Right. Perhaps because of the... Can pray lose. And then again perhaps not. Anyway so I kind of went back to the harp thing because of the New Madrid fault and my belief that in May

2:11:06 Somewhere that's when we have the the national level exercise 2011 which surrounds the new Madrid fault Which is right there in BB, Arkansas, Louisiana this triangle where these birds were all fell out of the sky because I think that harp was Cranking up and the birds basically ran into the force field of harp and they got crushed and Here's a little news report which comes from KTHV, Little Rock, Arkansas. I brought it in the morning to you. That corroborates my theory. In several parts of the world are still making headlines. The bird kill in Arkansas is on almost everyone's radar. No, literally, it actually shows up on radar. New at 10 tonight, KTHV's Lauren Clark joins us now to explain. Lauren?

2:11:48 Well, as today our own Ed Buckner pointed out an interesting image from the radar screen taken New Year's Eve above Beebe when the birds fell. We took it to the National Weather Service in North Little Rock to see if they could give any more information about the spot. By the way, this is local news, which really sucks. So it's kind of like, ehhh. There are some indications that we're picking up a non-precipitation target. It has some similarities to, say, like a collection of birds. This radar image is from around 10 p.m. New Year's Eve. Science and Operations Officer at the National Weather Service, Chris Bonanno, tells us Arkansas had lots of busy weather that particular night, but nothing after sunset. What you're seeing on the screen is this big blotch

2:12:32 stationary blotch right in the area where the birds, the dugs were crushed and it's not moving, it's just a stationary big spot on the radar. It's not uncommon to see actually birds on the radar, especially in the spring and the summertime. He estimates this spot to be between 1300 and 1400 feet above ground and points out how it doesn't move as most clouds or rainstorms would. When you see a higher reflectivity, that's an indication of a stronger or higher energy being returned to the radar. Higher energy being returned to the radar. So higher than it sent out. John, how is that possible do you think? So there's higher energy returning from the radar than was sent out. What could that be?

2:13:14 And the birds have radar. What's that? The birds have radar. Oh, the birds have radar. Right. This is usually these higher reflectivities indicate very heavy rain or perhaps hail. And the bright color is just too strong to blame it on bugs or smoke. But Arkansas Game and Fish officials say witnesses told them the birds were flying low that night, hitting everything from cars to mailboxes. That's your lead bird theory. I hit a mailbox! I'm a dead dog. So while we know what it's not, it's not a precipitation occurring, the National Weather Service cannot definitively say what it is. Okay, so it's not precipitation, it's not birds or bugs, it's not smoke, it's returning higher energy than the radar sending off. And the weather service here in Leningrad even fielded a call from a TV station in Germany about this radar image. Liz, what do you think?

2:14:12 Very interesting, Lauren. Now listen to her comeback. Very interesting, Lauren. That's really phenomenal. Now let's just wrap it all up. Thank you. We'll be talking about this topic more on our shows tomorrow. On today's THV this morning at 645 AM, Arkansas Game and Fish biologist Karen Rowe explains why they say a loud noise like from fireworks is to blame. Right, okay. They just dropped it. Yeah. It's fireworks. It kills me. Funny enough just you want you want like a just crazy number thing so remember that why not yeah remember that clip I played of the be informed be ready have a plan

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National Level Exercise 2011 and Show Outro

The hosts discuss the upcoming National Level Exercise (NLE) 2011, scheduled for May, which focuses on a catastrophic earthquake scenario along the New Madrid fault. John C. Dvorak offers "earthquake tips," suggesting that residents of major cities should simply leave for unaffected areas like Sacramento or Palm Springs rather than stockpiling supplies. The episode concludes with a reminder to support the show through donations and a look forward to the Thursday broadcast.

nle 2011· new madrid fault· earthquake· sacramento· palm springs· ces

2:14:57 So they've... Right, the bogus... but you never let me tell my earthquake story. Yeah, well you can tell it right after I do this. So in this, they've got a couple of these PSAs and the video of them, I think we talked about this one, your world is turned upside down and you see this whole family and they're floating upside down, I guess the house turned upside down and the clock says 5-11 which would be May 11 which is exactly the date of the NLE 2011! The what the national level exercises on 511. Oh All right, why don't you that's a bit of a stretch so why don't you I mean it's really a stretch That's the crackpot in you. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying I got

2:15:43 In the show notes for those of you who would like to go check it out We've got a whole bunch of Haiti stories, which you didn't get to Of course news about Louisiana being completely oil contaminated still which no one is talking about why would we because we've got tragedy in Tucson Thank you, we've got 3,500 impaired drivers trapped in Seattle your neck of the woods there we have a great research from our minute man who was a minute man remember I left out his name on the mystery missiles also a minute man research on harp

2:16:34 There's all kinds of groovy stuff in these show notes and no agenda show.com that's part of why you actually Support this show is because of these show notes It's a great resource or people if you use the show notes Which a lot of students should because it's great stuff to drive people crazy Especially with papers that you know incorporate some of this information, which is all public information. We're not writing these stories God forbid now we do the show and we put we'd be based on other people's work and is it where do it we're actually a meta show uh... which is is kinda shocking because you think it's somebody else could do this sort of work but apparently nobody's interest is too hard to go to wikipedia still hard to look things up well what happened what has happened though which which is other shows don't have is we have a a a a relatively large community of people who are awake and watching and not drinking the floor and by the way you get tons of non-fluoridated toothpaste

2:17:25 It is available. I suggest you use that. And they're looking at stuff and they're picking it up and they're sending it in, which is why we have to go through hundreds of news stories and watch C-SPAN so you don't have to. Magic numbers. A wife of convicted felon Thomas Parenteau sentenced in Ohio to 33 months in prison. uh... bed shortages in northern ireland hospitals thirty three people die of bird flu and thirty three women raped in the democratic republic of congo thirty-three thirty-three that some thirty three women raped in the congo what is it what it is true why are they toying with us i don't know i don't know and of course we still anxiously await who was going to uh... be the new spokeshole for the president uh... with robert gibbs gone

2:18:17 can't wait to see you shows up there thinking is going to be a journalist no yeah yeah that's what they're saying is a good day probably is going to be an established journalist that was a good rapport with the ministry of truth it's true well it could be anyone yeah well we'll see do you want to your quick story before we leave nag out up to do it next really are you sure some how i was gonna say the when you do it was pertinent was that this bull crap in your head you know all these gay you know all these other you know there's a lot of podcasts and there's a lot of t.v. shows with it you know get them your supply of food and water just in case a disaster happened on you know like an earthquake and i'm the old always thinking so we have that's a we have a massive ten point

2:19:00 Quake here in Northern Silicon Valley and just knocks everything out for a while. Mm-hmm. Let's say it's gonna take weeks to fix. Mm-hmm Why don't you just get in your car? And go to Reno, you know check into a hotel and then gamble a little bit and buy your food up there I mean, I don't get it. What are you supposed to do? You always told us and Mickey remembers it but I remember you told her where to go and You said if something happens get in your car and go and I forgot where it was like Sacramento Sacramento right you should go to Sacramento and she's always remembered that she's like if something happens I'm driving us to Sacramento

2:19:41 Well, from where you are, you can go to Palm Springs. Right, to the desert, it'd be beautiful there. Which is where I'd go if I was in Southern California. Just get in the car. Because nobody's gonna... I mean, the freeway, there's nothing... I mean, the bridge might be down or something. It might be a little... You know, it might take a back road. But just leave town. What do you want to... What's your problem? Instead, you're gonna have a bunch of stuff in your basement. Who cares? And you're gonna eat a bunch of dried food in the dark because, you know, you're... What's the point? It's pointless. Yeah. Alright everybody, enjoy the rest of your week with Tragedy in Tucson. And your mavericks of media will return on Thursday for another No Agenda show. And throughout the week of course we'll be working on the No Agenda stream, noagendastream.com

2:20:32 Working out all there's a lot to work out But it's turning into a pretty excellent resource to listen to John while you were in Vegas at CES were there any car radios with like wireless reception like like not that I saw I mean there might be I didn't go to that section of the show. Everyone's like, what, internet TV, internet TV? What about internet radio? Yeah, I know they gotta get up to speed on this stuff, that's for sure. Yeah, well, the human resources are there doing it, that's for sure. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center where I have plenty of storable food, I am Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where it's more than cold, it's chilly, I'm John C. DuVorak. We will talk to you again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.

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