Final Jeopardy

00:00 You're taking our opium wherever they got it from and you're gonna use that and we're gonna take your teeth. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, November 21st, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 254. This is no agenda. USA officially closed for business. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower area, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Buzzkill Bunker here in Northern Silicon Valley where there was thunder and lightning, I'm John C. DuBois. Yeah in the morning to you John in the morning to you and all shit it And all ships at sea boots on the ground and the human resources Yes in the chat room at no agenda chat net all charged up and ready to go the way their government loves them and boy It was 530 this morning. I got up and

00:56 Buckets it was coming out of the sky in buckets. I tell you really did you put the buckets aside? You know, you can recycle those. No that water is not actually ours. We don't own it anymore Your government owns the water. I think United Nations. Oh, yeah, that's right United Nations. Oh Boy, oh boy. Oh boy. Well John what a week it's been so you think there are some interesting news? uh well, I think that you and I have to be very very careful and because what has now, of course what we were talking about for months if not years, has now turned into the national distraction and there's all kinds of things happening that we're not paying attention to. I think we're probably paying attention to it but the TSA opt-out and naked body scanners is now officially being used as a distraction.

01:55 Yeah, well I thought it was the last show we did, I think you'd already jumped the shark and become a distraction. It continues. A lot of good stories, we've got some great clips and things, you know, that have a little to do with it, just showing how stupid it's gotten. The thing that annoys me the most, of course, is these constant references. And you hear it on all, I heard it on KCBS News Talk. yesterday as a matter of fact and well you know they're not that big of a deal because four out of five americans according to a cbs poll yeah Yeah, that was a really good poll, but it wasn't a poll of people who had just stood in line and gone through. No, and it wasn't a poll of necessarily people who ever go through an airport. No, it was just a poll, and the question was, do you think it's a good idea to have enhanced security pat-downs and scanners? Well, yeah. I mean, duh, that's easy to conduct a poll like that. Yeah. Very simple. Mickey actually had a very astute observation this morning.

02:55 She said this whole thing is about politics now. I said what do you mean? He said well who are the number who's the number one party of security? I said, well the Republican Party. He said, yeah, so that's why you see all the Democrats now and even MSNBC and Keith Olbermann jumping on board because this will weaken the Republican stance in the elections. Because if Republicans say, oh well, you know, we need to up that funding to Chertoff's group there and RapaScan and L3 systems, etc., then that weakens their entire position. And I thought that was a pretty good observation. well the problem with the observation is that the right wing talk shows don't verify it they're all dead against this in a trying to outdo the democrats with their uh... uh... personal um... but he's been either way the republic the the republican party

03:44 uh... loses in i don't think the republican party loses this one is that they get you for the following reason it's the old bomb i administration that put this in is janet napolitano that put this in and she's the one that won't walk through the scanners i'd i think it's just the opposite i think the democrats are and uh... can be attacked a that's why i think they're so defensive mhm okay well you know what the good thing is people are thinking about it and thinking about more than just the but the blatant violation Yeah, I know. The problem is it's a lost cause until... Well, let's see what happens on Wednesday. Well, I got a couple things we should probably touch on and I think you may have a few things I'm sure we just can't avoid it. It's important to continue to talk about it. I find it to be distressing, personally, regarding this show that we have to talk about. I thought that we could kill it last show and not even do much and then we have been unable to do this.

04:41 is one of the great distractions we've ever encountered. We have to actually, it's affecting the show negatively. That's right. Got... drat it! They're screwing with us again, Johnny boy! We've got to stay on top of it. Let's thank some producers before we move on though. Do we have some today? We just have one. And it's an executive producer. We have David Montoya from Dunedin, Florida. Who gave us $500. He'll be the executive producer of this show. uh... halfway to knighthood by the way i got a new job i was listening to dsc live on november nineteenth keeping the karma going long-time listener dsc and no agenda i'd go by the auto man in the chat room okay yeah he's in the chat room right now in fact they are in a the no the ottoman hey the ottoman the ottoman right on well thank you so much while that's uh...

05:38 That's good. We have one yeah, I did three hours and 50 minutes of daily source code on Friday at least someone appreciated Hmm food for thought before that but food for thought On the PR front not a lot were bored. No no it's hard work, man. It's four hours of You're yeah, well now you have to imagine what these you know these radio guys that do three hours a day five days a week No way because they've got commercials every now. They have a lot of commercial But they still have to be sitting there and then most of them with effect none of them There's not an exception to this that I know of then they go off and do it well Yeah, Rush Limbaugh is the only exception they go off and do a TV show and

06:25 Yeah, but they've got producers. Yeah, they've got a lot of producers. They've got drivers. Here's what I like to know. How does Sean Hannity... But they also have vacations, John. Do three... Yeah, fine. They don't do anything on their vacations. They don't... And we do. Three hours a day, five days a week, then go do an hour TV show and then write a book. Please! Yeah. No. Do you think he has help? Hmm. So as I was about to say, no real PR initiatives to mention. However, some people are working on some interesting initiatives. The paperclip kid is working hard on getting the hit-em-in-the-mouth paperclip figures and the

07:04 Gitmo jewelry figures. This is art. Yeah, I know it's totally art. So and he's got the whole family involved now his brother is working on the website and so I'm trying to shepherd that along. I received an interesting note from Miss Debbie in Nashville, Tennessee who said dear Mr. Adam do you have no agenda t-shirts that I could give my husband as a Christmas present he really enjoys the show. First of all it's beautiful when When you have a spouse who notices what their spouse really likes and she reached out and said, well look, we don't really sell anything directly. So you can Google around and here's some places you could look. But I think we still have the Amazon knighthood on wishlist.

07:49 Item is that now up on the donation page it it's not on the donation page yet But what about no agenda stuff aren't there t-shirts in there? Well? Yeah, no agenda stuff dot-com That's where I center, but also in general I mean you can give the gift that keeps on giving and make a donation in someone else's name This is very typical around this time of the year. Yeah, that's a really good idea You give someone a beautifully printed card, and you said you know I've made a donation in your name to support the no agenda show your favorite show your favorite show and and and will call those out and we'll do that uh... what day does christmas fall on this year by the way well let me take a look at what you have a look for that uh... of course thanksgiving the fake thanksgiving holiday is that coming up this thursday will be working in the morning uh... as usual

08:36 Whether you'll be there or not. It'll certainly be available for you as a as a podcast and it's a great family activity At the end of the Thanksgiving dinner the end of the day, you know You could sit down and watch some commercial junk on television You could start making up your list for Black Friday or you could just all sit down and huddle around the wireless and listen to that day's episode of no agenda and I'm sure we'll have a great program for you and Christmas falls on what day this year? I'm looking at my calendar. I just misspelled calendar. You'd think that Google Calendar would notice that you're trying to reach calendar and you're a dube. Yeah. So Christmas is on a nice Saturday so that's... So the day after Christmas, that'll be nice. Another perfect wireless moment. And John, before we move on, I have to say we have a night down.

09:35 Oh, we do. Yeah, we have a knight down and this has been building up over the past few weeks and I was finally able to get a hold of Sir Paul Couture, knight in the Order of the Mint. And there's been a big issue with people not having received their 101010 coins. Some people have not received their original coins. I have now had a very long conversation with Sir Paul and I take the knighthood stuff really seriously. I mean it's not just like, hey thanks, we'll take your thousand dollars or whatever and here's a virtual seat at the virtual table. These are people who really help out the show and support us and he's run into a number of personal things that are pretty messed up.

10:27 And so I am working with him personally on sorting all of this out. I would just ask everyone to have patience please, as this is a night of the No Agenda Roundtable and deserves a fair shot at making everything right. And it's not entirely within his control some of the stuff that's happened, but that I am now personally working on this and we're going to figure it out one way or the other. Is that okay? Yep, I'm glad you got a hold of him because I was unable. Well, you know, the first thing I thought about was something is desperately wrong, you know, and I was pretty much right, you know, but it's what is what has happened is people have not received what they've paid for and that is not right and so we're going to figure out how to correct that and what steps need to be taken, but he needs help and so the host of this program will certainly be there for him to figure out how we can work it out.

11:23 So, big thanks today to David Montoya, the Ottoman, in the chat room as he's known, being our executive producer, the only producer on board, but that does mean that indeed he's halfway to his knighthood and of course that's an official credit which he can put on his resume. And all the rest of you out there, there's something you've got to do, you need to go out and propagate our formula. Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Yeah, all right well, thanks for coming everybody

12:18 I don't have any material this year and I know this there was really nothing to talk about let me there's a there's a couple interesting things that did happen this week if we want to get in run my couple things I picked up let's just get the TSA thing out of the way right now. Oh, the TSA. Yeah, no, and I'll... Okay, well let's start by running this stupid... you heard of this show Wait Wait Don't... whatever it's called? It's called... Yeah, this is a... this is actually... it's on our national treasure. Yeah, NPR. And it's... it is actually a takeoff of a British show And someone in the chat room will know, which I think is on BBC, I want to say four. And it's kind of like an, they get a whole bunch of politicians, comedians mostly, they sit around a round table before a live studio audience. It's a very, very popular show. And they, it's kind of like a quiz. Gosh, someone in the chat room, please tell me what this is called. Someone at Get My Nation East will know. It's actually on the second set of clips. I got the name of it right on the clip name.

13:16 It was a wait wait don't tell me but I think it's called something else. It's called mock the week in Gitmo Nation East. Mock the week? Mock the week. Wait wait don't tell me is the stupidest name I've ever heard for a show. Well because they I don't think they're pairing any rights to the BBC's like obviously. So they say hey let's do this but we'll call it wait wait don't tell me. and and garrison keeler's been doing a live show on npr for i don't know twenty five years called uh... you know that very home companion whatever it is and that everybody in their sister so that's so cool that he does that we have a local guys said somebody or other who decided to do a exact copy of the garrison keeler show locally and he doesn't in a studio with a live studio audience and it's not funny yeah exam and uh...

14:06 and this is a like another version of the same thing that is that's kind of got a twist to it because it's a panel it's not like a variety show like keeler show and but it's but it's still you know lame these guys are playing to the audience is kinda old-time radio e because you know that's what used to be in the olden days before you know television came along and i find it the whole thing to be pretentious Well, let's have a listen. Our national treasure. Well, welcome to the show, Chad. Let me introduce you to our panel this week. First, a contributor to CBS Sunday Morning, Miz. By the way, don't be talking like that. That's incredibly... John... Faith Saley. Hello, Chad. Faith, by the way, is the biggest dummy. She's the biggest dummy of the three. Where's she from here? CBS News? Yeah. Yeah. All right.

14:56 Next to write it for HBO's real-time with Bill Maher. Mr. Adam Felber is sucking his you know what oh, yeah? It's like oh, maybe one day when I get off NPR that I can get a job at that great show with Bill Maher And lastly a comedian performing at the Hemans cultural center in Elgin, Illinois in December 3rd. It's Paula Poundstone Wow, they really couldn't get any guests I guess So welcome to the show Chad, you're gonna start us off with who's Carl this time. Carl Castle right here is gonna read you three quotes from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain just two of them, you'll win our prize. Carl's voice on your home answering device. Ready to go. Isn't that a prize to really want? Yeah, on your home answering device. Nobody uses home answering devices anymore.

15:47 It's so stupid. Alright. Let's do it. Here's your first quote. By the way, some of your tax dollars goes towards this. Enjoy. If you touch my junk, I'm going to have you arrested. Let's get to the quote now, Carl. That's how elitists think about you, by the way. Yeah, you're an idiot. We laugh at you. You are such a good slave, you know your instructions. He has more than the face. Yes he has, he has become the veritable crotch of this new movement. I had, you know, an LAX where we fly out of, they have the full body scanners. They do. Who's this, Paula Poundstone? John?

16:57 Yeah, I'm still hearing it. It's just breaking up for some reason. It's creepy. The lady that was... Okay, the person that was doing mine asked me to moan and I... I was uncomfortable with it. I thought it was part of the... Yeah, it's not. It's patriotic. Here's an interesting detail though, and Paula and I travel together so I discovered something that if you submit to the scanner, they won't give you the pat-down. Were you disappointed? Yes, to Adam's disappointment. I asked for both and I got the, I mistakenly went through the scanner first. What is the big objection to these see-through scanners? Who is this? This is the woman from CBS.

17:43 know what you look like in clothes I mean it's not showing you this is I have nothing to hide someone explains to me people being modest if you're fat we can tell your fat and clothes I'll tell you one of the problems. She's sensitive. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And of course, nobody brings up x-rays during this whole discussion. Why would you? Discussion amongst the geniuses. No, why would you? If the TSA gets to see naked pictures of you, then other places are going to start claiming that it's not safe there. Like, for example, 7-Eleven employees are going to start to say, you know, how do we know for sure that she doesn't have a bum?

18:19 We need naked scanners. I think that they are... This is good. I'm going to do that at the house. So when anyone comes over, I'm sorry, you have to go through my naked scanning device before you can enter because it's for national security. That's an outstanding idea. Completely underestimating the vanity of Americans. I think they should take a cue from theme parks and set up a booth on the other side of security so by the time you get through they've got all the pictures displayed. You find your own fuzzy junk, you pay 20 bucks for a framed copy, bingo! You got your first souvenir of the trip right there. Wow. There it is ladies and gentlemen. This is about as shallow and lame as you can get. This is by the way what people are contributing to, the NPR group.

19:04 It's not one mention of, I mean the whole thing is to completely sidetracking their x-ray issues. By the way, these people that run these things are not radiologists. I always thought it was a law if you ran an x-ray machine you had to be a radiologist, but I guess I'm wrong. But that course is never mentioned. It's the, you know, the skinny chick from CBS talking about, you know, I got a nice figure. Yeah, if you're fat we know you're fat. If you're fat, we know you're fat with clothes on. I don't worry about that. She's hot. What are people all upset about? She is a idiot. But I mean, she should be hot. That's the question. How can you tell? She's on NPR. What was her name? Back it up and go back and get the introductions and let's look her up.

19:46 home and okay fit was that they something or other now something others that i'm going to show jimmy to do you to our panel this week first a contributor to cbs sunday morning is faith saly faith saly faith saly i don't even know how you spell that let's try it and see if google knows s a l i e they say i don't know if not to thank after a blab blab blab it it it they thought she'd she looks like a Well, I'm pretty but she's one of those she's got like a butt chin and you should look at her images. She look at her images because that shows right up. Oh, yeah. No, she has a cleft chin is what that's called. Oh, I thought it's called a butt chin. Look at that picture of her licking someone's ear. That's kind of yeah, that's weird. Face alien Herschel Bliefeld pose. She's an actress.

20:43 She's an actress. Oh, well then she's totally stupid. She's an actress. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay, so just a couple things I want to say and then I'll be done with it. So first of all, there's a, so we know about the, and there's a whole bunch of links once again in the show notes, noagendashow.com. Please take a look at them because everything you want to know is in these show notes. Take it from me. So first of all, the connection with the money, we know about the Chertoff Group, but there's an interesting Obama connection, which I actually blogged and I'll read this verbatim from curry.com oops, hold on a second, I opened up the wrong link there where was it? anyway so the CEO of OSI Systems who make Rapiscan is a guy named Deepak Chopra now it is not the Deepak Chopra that you immediately think of the holistic healing dude

21:46 Um, this is another dude with the same name. And so first of all he was selected to accompany Barack Obama to Mumbai to attend the US-India Business Entrepreneurship Meeting. Oh really? Oh yes. That's a good catch. I like that. I give you points. And he fully supported Obama during his presidential bid with the maximum amount allotted by law. Who knows how many of his employees he got to donate. Oh yeah. All of them. So that seems to me to be kind of a... A conflict of interest. Oh, really? Worth an investigation. Yeah, totally worth an investigation.

22:23 So that is just... and by the way, Pistol Pete there, who is the director of the Transportation Security Administration, is a personal friend of Barack Obama. I think there was a couple people who declined the invitation to even take the job. Oh yeah, nobody in their right mind wants that job. No one wanted that, and this guy is a friend of Barack's. Barack's buddy. How can that guy be a friend of anybody's, let alone Barack's? What's his background? I'm just saying, that's the news reporting that I get. and I want to reiterate that so when it comes to the

23:00 The radiation issue here is the the Pat answer and you can look at it the TSA blog because unfortunately, you know was blogger Bob I think who? Blogs for the for the TSA blogger the TSA blogger. He says look man like Johns Hopkins and the National Association of radiologists cardiologists they all say it's all safe now. Let me just reiterate reiterate that yes there is a standard and the standard has been approved by Johns Hopkins University College, College of Medicine, what do they call it? John Hopkins. Whenever you say Johns Hopkins, like well you're gonna fight against Johns Hopkins? Are you crazy? You stupid? So while it is true and all of these links are in the show notes, while it's true that they have said at this certain standard of 0.2 radiocatons, whatever they are,

23:52 that that is deemed safe, none of the manufacturers in their marketing material on their websites actually say how much they emit or if they adhere to the standard and if you read carefully what what Pistoli says and everyone else says they don't say these machines are safe they say no Johns Hopkins has determined that at a low doses of radiation it is safe for people but then no one actually makes the connection to these machines and these machines have not been tested tested thank you they have just not been tested

24:29 And when they're run by people that don't know how to calibrate them, there's you know, who knows what the maintenance is like on one of these machines. It could be killing you. You could be walking in and get a lethal dose of x-rays for all you know. Now unfortunately what you're hearing and and this is and then we'll get off the topic but what I just have to reiterate what you're hearing is a very strong push Because everyone is really talking about the pat-downs. That's where all the outrage is coming from that is, you know, for as good and well-intended as it may be, opt-out day is actually pushing people through the scanners because there's very little information known about that. There's very little talk going on about it. Yeah, the only thing they're talking about is are you being seen naked or not? That's the only thing that's being discussed.

25:15 Right? Yeah, well you just tell with the woman and the rest of these people on NPR, that's all they talked about. They never mentioned x-rays once. They don't even let you know there was x-rays involved. It's just some magical machine. You walk in and you come out naked. Yeah, it's like a magic act. Like those x-ray glasses we used to buy from the back of the comic books. X-ray specs. X-ray specs, that's right. 99 cents. They're amazing! So I had an interesting dinner on Friday night Mickey's friend Frank Karachi. Yeah, who he is Frank Karachi is the director who basically Did all the first comedies and movies with Adam Sandler? They're like friends from back east so he did water boy and around the world in 80 days and so Mickey knows him really well and

26:05 And this guy, although he's kind of switched on, you know, he's definitely in Hollywood and... And, you know, I was really... Because he's Mickey's friend, right? So I don't want to come across like, oh, there's Mickey and that dick. who hates everything and everybody. So I figured I'd see if I could get him to start asking me questions. You know, because he's like, I was to show up, because he said, what do you do want this little show, no agenda show and whatever. And I'm just kind of laying low. And then it's, you know, I think he or his girlfriend, lovely girlfriend, by the way, brought up because they just traveled back from Italy.

26:47 And I said, you know, it's really, it's interesting how any, you know, dentists, nurses, doctors, they all have to wear a dosimeter. You know what a dosimeter is? It's one of those, you'll see a doctor has it in their pocket, it's like a little, you know, maybe a clip-on pen or something. And at the end of the week, they hand that in. It's mainly for insurance purposes to make sure that they haven't received too much radiation in that week. Did you know that the TSA is forbidden to use them? And then you could just see the wheels turn. It was great. He's like, oh really? Well, why is that? I said, I don't know man. So I know that they're paying the lowest level paid guy there is like $90,000. And he made the connection. He said, oh well, yeah, of course. You'd be getting paid lots of money to be radiated. Uh-huh. Yeah, there you go. That's how it works. So, you know, it's waking people up in Hollywood slowly.

27:39 slowly. Very, very slowly. One at a time. One at a time. Anyway, tons of information again in the links at noagendershow.com. Was there anything else that you wanted to touch on regarding that? I mean, Saturday Night Live, of course, had the same jokes and it's all about not getting groped by the TSA and not questioning anything else. You know, a naked body scanner, okay, well that falls under the I have nothing to hide meme. yeah i got nothing i got nothing are you guys are not enough and i'd like enough not it's great but nothing hide more cameras is great which is this is like uh... me point out a couple days ago you know what about people who have a uh... not as a who has a dead like a colostomy bag well you know that just happened right as sixty one-year-old bladder cancer survivor uh... had to go through a pat down and uh... and and you know it he has like a hole in his stomach essentially in a comes out of there and goes into the bag

28:35 And whatever went wrong, went wrong. And essentially his bladder bag burst all over him. He soaked in his own pee. Right in front of everybody. And then there was a woman with the breast cancer survivor. Who uh, take out your prosthesis. Yeah, now we're gonna have to reevaluate it. You know, everyone bitched about it. We're gonna reevaluate our procedures. Then there's like the... Everyone's gonna be reevaluating the procedure. We're gonna reevaluate the procedure. We did nothing wrong. Right, if you haven't seen the YouTube video of the TSA strip searching a kid, this boy, have you seen that one?

29:16 Well, were the kids screaming? Yeah, well no, no, this is not, this is a little boy. And they're literally, they're strip searching him, they're making him take his shirt off. uh... yeah it's uh... it's and everybody puts up with this by the way one thing that we've failed to mention i ran into an economic and a uh... on a desi site uh... in indian news site the indians this is what makes a whole thing so stupid and to be what they should think about this in india they refuse to install these machines because the public refuses to put up with them yeah Right. So in other words, so you can get if you want to bomb something, you know, if these machines are so they protect you so well, just go take a flight from Bombay and nonstop into New York, you know, or San Francisco or Los Angeles. There's no machines in India and there won't be because the Indian public says no way. Screw you. Screw you. We're not putting up with this. The Americans meanwhile, like the sheep that they apparently are, which is pathetic. You're the great American, you know, individualism, the individualistic,

30:17 great country of the United States of course we've been de-educating people so everyone's kind of dumb now. Oh okay four out of five people say that it's okay well then it must be okay. It's so pathetic to witness this that it's sickening and I hope people would help us Get through this we need more donations at the work org slash na just to mention it so the one thing that really disturbed me though because we heard about this is about this is the story of the San Diego don't touch my junk guy who then left the The airport and it's being threatened with a $10,000 fine Yeah, so there is indeed and I have the document here has to be a lawsuit on I mean this case well hold on a second because I have here in front of me a

31:01 and it's from the Department of Homeland Security and there's a link in the show notes, Enforcement Sanction Guideline Policy. Introduction here, on November 19th, 2001, Congress enacted the Aviation and Transportation Security Act, the ATSA, which created TSA, which transferred authority for enforcement of civil aviation security requirements from the Federal Aviation Administration to the TSA. On July 21st, 2009, John, we missed this one I guess, TSA's investigative and enforcement procedures including the maximum civil monetary penalty amounts for violations of TSA security regulations were amended to conform the implementing recommendations of the 9-11 Commission Act of 2007. The current civil penalty monetary amounts became effective on August 20th, 2009.

31:50 And indeed, there are a whole bunch of guidelines here. Aggravating and mitigating factors of general matter, TSA considers the following aggravating and mitigating factors. And they have everything laid out very clearly what the fines are. So, significance or degree of the security risk created by the violation. So this is all where they get to do whatever they want, right? The nature of the violation, it can determine what we're going to do with that. Past violation history, violators level of experience. Oh, I'm a very experienced violator. The attitude of the violator. Hey, you got a bad attitude. We're charging you more. Criminal sanctions already paid for, paid for the same incident. Artful concealment.

32:29 fraud intentional uh... was it inside the attention of the service fraud come into it if you like doctor your papers so i think that a lot so a lot of it is for uh... aviation companies you know all the way down to like you're you're not wearing your safety vest i swear to god i mean and this is no joke but if you go down to individuals which is at the very bottom of the document this is an official document by the way i blew me away i'd never seen this uh... okay so security violations by individuals for prohibited items so uh... if you have a loaded firearm you can get a uh... three thousand seven and a half thousand dollar penalty plus criminal referral you get a referral out of it it's kinda like a cool credit uh... unloaded firearm fifteen hundred three thousand bb pellet compressed air gun flare starter pistols realistic replicas including gun lighters

33:22 Permanently inert firearms spear guns stun guns cattle prods or other shocking devices up to $1,500 fine So if you have a or one of those joke, I mean, it's not a good idea I understand but if you have a replica realistic replica of a firearm, which could be a toy You can get a $1,500 fine, but then also for sharp objects, you know $1,500 Club like items which could be a dildo for all I care. You know, that could be a club like item and Depends. Incendiaries which can include lighter fluids. You know, it's just I didn't know this. I didn't know they can actually fine you. And then indeed for entering the sterile area without submitting to screening up to $3,000, entering or being present. It's just improper use of airport access medium, whatever that means.

34:17 And then there's a little asterisk way down at the bottom. Violations not listed above are subject to the regulatory civil penalty maximum of $11,000. So anything else except for these you can get up to 11 grand. I didn't know any of this. These guys have some actual power. They slip this one by us as usual. We were asleep at the wheel. i can tell you know we're pretty good i think we we have a lot of uh... we we keep up on this stuff in the fact that this is not the bias you know last year and has been sitting there later because it gave came to the floor because of the uh... of the don't touch my junk guy uh... and of course they will find my and judge dizziness and i don't know he did submit to the touching i mean he did is not like he did not believe in the area after you've after you know they made him leave

35:07 Well, there's some confusion there, but I think according to the law the way I read it or the the way it was written up they can actually fine him. Now will he get fined? Well then why don't they fine the pilot? Yeah look, I'm just saying it's another little piece that is just outrageous in this whole conversation about the powers these goons have. And the fact that the public puts up with it. Why don't we just turn over the government to the, you know, whoever the fascists, the big fascists are. Just put GM on the White House and we're done with it. This is a General Motors division right here. Oh, by the way, John, speaking of such, so I think as we asserted at the beginning of the show, a lot of this is now being used as cover-up. So did not General Motors go public on Wednesday? Yeah. Okay. When all of this really hit, right?

35:58 at the same time pretty much so I would like to go to the White House whiteboard which is now a it's a it's his own show it has its own RSS feed and it's a show it's a podcast actually it's a Goolsby I'm glad somebody's picking up on this podcast idea yeah they got the right idea over the White House and I won't play the whole thing but I just want you to hear the cavalier cavalierness of how he basically explains to you how your money is winding up in the hands of rich people and then I think in like 30 seconds I can explain how it really works. But what he's doing here is a total ministry of truth work. He stands in front of the white board and he has a chart over the past 10 years. Is Obama? No, this is Goolsby, his new chair of the economic advisory board. Remember this is the guy who does stand-up?

36:54 and won the the soliloquy. He's a talker, he's a mouthpiece and you know it's not an official position. He's on the economic board of advisors but he gets to be on the White House website. They should post our show on the White House website as a some balance. Yeah they should. So you got the past 10 years and he has something called market value of GM. Have you ever heard of an actual statistic called market value John? Well, there's market cap, which is market value supposedly, but has he made something else up new? Yes, because of course market capitalization is all the outstanding shares. Is the market value. Right, but it's all the outstanding shares and their price. That's your market capitalization is market value, correct?

37:41 That's exactly, yeah. There's also something called, another one that's very common is called enterprise value which calculates into that first number the debt of the company. Right, so what he's done is he's taken market capitalization And which he shows at like less than a billion dollars in 2009. Do you think that's true? Has GM really been down to... Probably, because the stock was in the tank and it's possible. I mean, it doesn't mean you could buy the company for that. So none of this has to do with profits directly, with profits, but the way he talks about it is is because what he's about to do is to tell you wait hold on a second what I think the word you're looking for is that he's and let me just guess out of the blue he's misleading the public yeah that would be correct John exactly exactly economic advisors I'm sorry I missed his introduction it's the top of his show yeah he needs a jingle ghouls bees minute I am Austin Gouldsby from the Council of Economic Advisors

38:39 and today i wanted to talk a little bit about a major milestone hit by general motors it's a hit everybody we got a number one hit with a bullet and by the way listeners out there who are familiar with uh monday night football know that this is the voice of john gruden oh really is that what he's doing no that is the way he sounds exactly like him and it's you know like a football analyst Here we go. The last you heard about General Motors, they were supposed to have been on their last legs and about to die. But that's not quite how it worked out. Now this is very interesting because I want everyone to understand there's a difference between market value and revenue and profits. Huge difference between all of that. The story really goes back more than 10 years.

39:26 GM had become a manufacturing dinosaur that wasn't competitive internationally. They were bloated with debt, they had higher costs than other manufacturers, they were making models played with quality problems that people weren't willing to buy. Sounds a bit like the US, doesn't it? Bloated with debt, making shit people don't want to buy. It's an analogy. And what I've plotted here is the market value of General Motors going from 1999 up through the past several years. And what you see is that it was trending downward. They were losing market share, they were losing customers, and they were definitely losing money. In the four years up to their bankruptcy, General Motors lost more than $80 billion. They lost more than $30 billion just in the year 2008.

40:19 And so when the deep recession hit, they were really on their last breath. So the president comes into office in January of 2009, the economy's in free fall, General Motors is about to collapse, and the president has a series of very tough decisions that he has to make. I don't think that was actually true. The economy was not in free fall when he came into office. It happened after he was in office, correct? No, it was when he came into office. the president decides over the voices of many of the critics that would be us john were voices of the critics here not to just let them liquidate in an uncontrolled manner but instead to make a forty nine billion dollar investment in the company and to force them to restructure to make themselves competitive now of course here's where the so that's uh... messing with uh... uh... a non-government organization

41:19 and is something that... Yeah, by the way, with an administration, the Obama administration, that has the lowest number of people who have ever worked in the private sector, in other words, had a job in the private sector in the history of the United States. No other administration has had so few. There's like two or three guys total. The rest, everybody else is a government worker or some academic person, but mostly government workers. Including this guy. Yeah, including this guy. He's never had a job. No, he's not. Now critics said that they couldn't do it. They were going to die anyway and we'd never get a dime out of that. But we learned from Ford and from others that big American manufacturing companies, when they make themselves competitive, they can be successful.

42:04 And so the president launched them on a massive restructuring effort. And that involved very tough conditions. Firing the CEO. This is pretty amazing though, right? It's like, hey, we're going to fire your CEO. Replacing a third of the management. Kick all your management out, put in some shills. It had to be a shared sacrifice. Workers had to sacrifice dealers suppliers management. So all the slaves had to sacrifice everybody Yeah, and a lot of them by the way when they started not knocking the dealers off They took a careful look at who contributed to the Obama campaign. Oh, yeah We haven't forgotten the McCain campaign if you can see if you were a dealer that contributed the McCain campaign your deal I know got cut you're out. You're done. Yeah, I

42:45 It was the only way to make that company competitive so that they could grow out of their problems Which is bullcrap because the only way to be competitive is to make competitive products at competitive prices Nothing has nothing to do with that directly, but they did it. I and it did work. Okay, now here's where it gets interesting. It worked. John, it worked. They got their costs down. People around the country started buying their cars again. And for the first time, which is patently not true, they started buying their cars because we had a car bailout, the cash for clunkers on top of that. Can I just remind everybody? We had a cash for clunkers program which was only for US-made cars.

43:26 Please remember that. That's why it worked. Air quotes. This time in years, General Motors actually turned a profit. Again, we covered this on NOA Agenda. That profit was completely based upon cash for clunkers. What was that? A billion dollars, John? A billion? No, it was like ridiculous. And the whole thing is, this is a scam. Well, hold on. I'm going to tell you the scam in a second. I just wanted to say that it was great. And now General Motors begins selling shares again to the public. To the... Really? Uh, John, did you get in on that IPO? No, they wouldn't give me any IPO stuff, but I can buy it now in the open market. Oh yeah, but did you get it on... From somebody who got it cheaper. But where are all the billionaires made? They're made at the IPO. You get in pre-IPO and that's where you make the money because you buy the shares at maybe $5, they go public at $33, nice number. And then you dump it. Of course, and then you dump it. Well, then you sell it to the public. That's what you do. Then you turn around and sell it to the public. You show public offering.

44:26 that was one of the biggest in history. So this is where you're supposed to be impressed. Wow, this is great. They had the biggest initial public, which is basically borrowing money. It's borrowing money from the investors. It's not like a huge business win. IPOs make founders and people on the inside of the financing rich, which I have to say includes the US government. So let's follow that for a second. The value of the company market value of the company. See now he's changed it from market capitalization to market value to the value of the company which is really open to interpretation. It's now more than 50 billion dollars and investors gave them a major vote of confidence. Okay so here's how it works let me explain. We had something called, it used to be called printing money, it's now called quantitative easing. When you see if you happen to see it on the news they talk about QE2

45:25 Right? And it's the second round of quantitative easing which is an expensive word for printing money. And of course they use that word because most people understand, hey wait a minute, printing money, doesn't that bring us inflation? Isn't that bad? So the way it works is they print money so the Federal Reserve can give money, that fake invented money to the banks. The banks are supposed to lend that money to the public But the banks didn't lend that money to the public. They are not lending it. We all know that. The president continuously reminds us the banks aren't doing that. No, they're not lending it to the public. They've invested it in the stock market. That's why you see stocks going up. I mean, what is the stock market, John? What's the Dow at? 11,000 still? Between 10 and 12? Yeah, as far as I can remember. So the banks, and these aren't banks like Citibank necessarily or Bank of America. This is like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc.

46:20 They invested in shares and guess what they invested in? In General Motors in the IPO. So then it went public, these guys made billions and put it in their pocket and you didn't get anything. It was your money to start with because we're gonna pay for it with inflationary measures like the first thing that happens is fuel goes up and oil is rising. So all the commodities start to rise and eventually food prices will go up. That's just the way it goes. It takes a year before that happens but you'll see it. So this whole scam, this the Goolsbee goon is explaining is how we got ripped off and how our money, our money which was printed in our name wound up in the hands of the people who really didn't need anymore. And to me it's despicable this guy stands up in front of the White House whiteboard and explains it away like this.

47:15 It's disgusting. Excuse me, let me do the one again. I'm done. I'm done with him, with Goolsby. So let's take a look at some international politics while we have a shot at it. Good idea. So I'm watching a... in fact, over the weekend there was a... especially in the morning and some of the off hours on one of the off C-Span stations. It was fascinating but it was very difficult to get clips. I have a couple. uh... on on terrorism in the future of terrorism in u.s. policy and it was a bunch of these segments it was done in the alternate white hat in the alternate uh... uh... uh... uh... house of representatives room which is buried underground apparently they've been denuke uh... bunker for a uh... bomb attack really had that's what i had a

48:07 And the guys were talking about, yeah, this is where they would be, it's like a giant theater, it's really interesting. Was there a scheduling conflict on the conference rooms or something? Well, this was like a bunch of seminars and it was all these policy wonks, these guys who are the the CIA and the intelligence agencies don't have the only analysts in the world and then anybody ever watches the or completely watches this show Rubicon realizes that most of these people are private, you know, they're in private companies doing this kind of work. Oh yeah. Which is why Rubicon has been taken off the air because it hit too close to home. It was pretty, you know, interesting and but these, you know, there's all these companies out there, you wonder why they're so big

48:50 and you wonder what they do, there is always some sort of institute. Yes, think tank. Or think tank, but the term think tank is out and institute is in. And this is the New America Foundation putting this on in conjunction with the Chicago project or something. And they had all these independent wonks come out that work for various people. One of them, the first woman that's on there is uh... cory shocky who just goes on about a little thing i want to introduce you to do did rolling that goes on a cut these way down because i i just want to bring it to an interesting point but i'm gonna play a couple of clips and give you a little background what they're thinking what they're trying to promote to the policy makers but play the uh... woman uh... well it's all policy wonk one no it's another one

49:39 Have to open up my mail Okay, I've got doomsday e4b Hoover Institute Bush Institute Bush girl polis doc. Okay, here we go The third point I would make is that the strategy of offshore balancing? Is oh, that's an MK ultra experiment if I've ever heard one I A parallel in some ways to the strategy of extended deterrence that we and the Europeans debated for the better part of the Cold War. For those of you who don't study transatlantic politics, the nature of that debate was that the countries that felt threatened wanted American soldiers there because that was the most binding guarantee that the United States would actually engage in the fight when the fight came.

50:31 And for about 55 years or so, Germans wrung their hands about whether the United States would really be committed to the defense of Germany if there were not US troops there. It is what is gruesomely called the buckets of blood strategy. So if I understand correctly, the Germans wanted us to have the bases all over Germany which are still there? Early on, yeah. I think it remains to be seen whether that's still true. But anyway, she makes the point that the only reason we're all over the place is because these countries don't believe that we'd help them at all. Unless we had a stake in it by putting our people, our boots on the ground.

51:12 Yeah, which makes some sense, but the point I want to make here is that this is the kind of, I had to listen to this droning of this deep policy crap for, I don't know, two or three hours to get to this one thing that I'm going to make a point with. The next guy who comes up, which is policy wonk number one, was a character who's a total independent analyst, extremely boring, but he makes a bunch of interesting points. about how screwed up our policies are regarding hamas and his below saying that we can't do any of the things you want to do unless we bring them to the table we can't continue with this idea of uh... not did discussing anything with terrorists and we have to really and his real

50:31 And for about 55 years or so, Germans wrung their hands about whether the United States would really be committed to the defense of Germany if there were not US troops there. It is what is gruesomely called the buckets of blood strategy. So if I understand correctly, the Germans wanted us to have the bases all over Germany which are still there? Early on, yeah. I think it remains to be seen whether that's still true. But anyway, she makes the point that the only reason we're all over the place is because these countries don't believe that we'd help them at all. Unless we had a stake in it by putting our people, our boots on the ground.

51:12 Yeah, which makes some sense, but the point I want to make here is that this is the kind of, I had to listen to this droning of this deep policy crap for, I don't know, two or three hours to get to this one thing that I'm going to make a point with. The next guy who comes up, which is policy wonk number one, was a character who's a total independent analyst, extremely boring, but he makes a bunch of interesting points. about how screwed up our policies are regarding hamas and his below saying that we can't do any of the things you want to do unless we bring them to the table we can't continue with this idea of uh... not did discussing anything with terrorists and we have to really and his real

51:54 target is Iran. We've got to bring Iran back in to the... we have to be friends with them, which of course nobody's gonna do, but play policy wonk one, then two, then I'll get to the point. I think it is indispensable that the United States realigns its relations with the Islamic Republic of Iran as fundamentally and comprehensively as it realigned its relations with the People's Republic of China in the early 1970s. I won't belabor this point right now. We can talk about it in the Q&A if you like. But I will simply underscore that at this point, the United States cannot achieve any of its own stated high priority policy objectives in the Middle East, in Arab-Israeli peacemaking, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, elsewhere.

52:43 We can't do it absent a more positive and productive strategic relationship with the Islamic Republic. That's really interesting. Haven't our banks like Goldman and JP Morgan just opened up offices in Tehran? Didn't we cover that? I mean, what is the problem? I thought everything's over now. I know, we're still saber rattling. But anyway, he makes an interesting point. This is the last one. This little point, policy wonk number two, where he discusses the fact that apparently we were in bed with Iran during their early part of the Afghan thing and now we've changed our policies. Iran's telling us we're full of crap, we don't know what we're doing. And I just wanted to get that out of the way before I get to the real meat of this thing.

53:27 The United States needs to pursue a genuinely regional strategy for post-conflict stabilization in Afghanistan. This means more than just a professed willingness to talk with Iran and others about Afghanistan based on what is frankly a simple-minded proposition that because the Iranians cooperated with us in Afghanistan after 9-11, they would unreflectively do so again. I say this proposition is simple-minded because it overlooks an important reality. The Iranians think that the U.S. strategy in Afghanistan has shifted away from the strategy initially pursued there, in coordination with them, during 2001 to 2003. The U.S. strategy that has emerged in Afghanistan is interpreted by the Iranians as either fundamentally incoherent or, to the extent that it has some coherence, has aimed deliberately

54:26 at important Iranian interests. More specifically, the Iranians think that the Obama administration's gradual embrace of engagement with the Taliban is dangerous nonsense. As one senior Iranian official put it to me, if the United States wants to strike a deal with the Taliban, why did it invade Afghanistan in the first place? So there's a bunch of these things going on and by the way the overall the thesis it seems to me is that we're doing this everything wrong, which is fine. So we went on and I got quite a bit out of it and then they pulled a trick and I've seen this done before. This is going on more and more and I've seen it in tech conferences and I saw it on this thing where they... Have a shill in the audience. No, no, that's the problem. So to avoid the shill or the guy with the good question

55:18 And you'll see, everyone who goes to conferences is going to start to see this, because this is the trick. At the end of all these wonk speeches about this and that, this guy who's the host, he goes on and says, okay, we're going to take a few questions, but what we want to do is I want you to ask a question, and then we're going to take all the questions at once, and then the panel will answer the questions. Oh, what a horrible way of doing it. Have you ever seen this? Yeah. uh... yeah first of all at first and it's been so non-interactive like you make any world watches submitted in writing which they do as well right yeah i do that to me go through them but so they have a whole bunch of people ask questions like it you know they had about four for the ten times about ten people ask a question the answers like two of them but the one they definitely didn't answer it this answer this question comes up out of the blue uh... from a guy who's another b runs a magazine that's for analysts i guess

56:10 and called executive intelligence and he asked this question this the question from the audience that i just went all right we gotta follow up on this one and they didn't even touches with a ten-foot pole thank you mike billington from executive intelligence review none of you have mentioned the narcos side of narco terrorism And yet, as I'm sure you know, the Russians have, especially Viktor Ivanov, their drug czar, has declared Afghanistan to be essentially a second British Opium War with the massive flow of drugs out of the British-controlled area of Afghanistan until recently. I want you to move to the question. Very quick.

56:48 Hey, hey, hey, hey, don't be too smart there. Move it along, will ya? Shut up. The problem is that the US administration under Obama has basically said we shouldn't take on the drug issue, we want to focus on terrorism. General Jones, just two days before he was fired or resigned, gave a very powerful speech in Russia. fully endorsing the russian call for a global collaborative effort on fighting drugs fighting international crime and the sophisticated interface with international business so i'd call much like to hear your comments on that wow thank you wow the sophisticated interface with international business i love it

57:24 General Jones was fired shortly after giving a speech to the Russians saying, yeah, you guys are right. So what's that all about? So does that kind of bring up our incessant harping on the fact that we're protecting the poppy fields and that this... Only it brings in two other issues. It brings in who's this General Jones guy I've never heard about and what has this got to do, why is it in the British section of Afghanistan? The British Opium War, interesting. So there's something, so there's a, so apparently there's more dimensions to this than our simple, you know, it's the CIA moving a bunch of money out or a bunch of opium out or heroin as it were, because they got the processing facilities there too we would assume. But the fact they, they would not talk, they just, this was no.

58:09 Wow, he didn't even want to answer asking the question let alone discussing it in public I'm sure that it didn't see this was a public C-Span event. Hold on one second John because everyone needs to know. So you don't have to. Yeah, in fact it took me forever. When this happened I said, oh finally I got something I can use. Yeah. Because I couldn't, you couldn't play these little lectures, these people. I mean it was interesting. You sit there and record, I mean we have to record over the Kardashians, over Chelsea lately. We got to record over everything just to have enough space on the DVR to get to anything.

58:50 So anyway, so this was the gem and I think it's got enough little tidbits in it because you know he was trying to see span, you know, when you watch this thing which is a bunch of policy wonks going on and on about various things from an analyst perspective, an intelligence analyst. uh... you're not going to get the really great stuff because this is on c-span the guy kept reminding everybody this is on c-span so they would do so they're going to be slightly circumspect about what they are talking about right the audience was filled with with various intelligence agency people you could tell by looking at it and that's the spooks

59:28 spooks places filled with spooks and wannabe spooks and an independent and you know groupies brookings foundation and all these different people are in there was a big audience huge packed how can they have a panel after panel after panel of these people and they but they would not address this particular topic it never went or they pretend that it was just the real wonder was in the bunker of the of the house no wonder this is like the these these are the real guys The real guys! Oh my gosh! Yeah, so you couldn't bomb... it was just kind of a joke that they said they couldn't get any other space. No! That's the place you could put them where they could all be protected. Yeah, because one bomb in that place and it would get rid of the entire system.

1:00:14 Yeah, so they put him in the bunker of the House of Representatives and that's where the conference took place. Wow. So did anyone answer the question? No! That question was never addressed. that was the answer wow so we are we're coming we thought we were outrageous with saying that the poppies in the cia and bring it in on uh... on the military flights and that it you know a lot of it was used to define is being used whitewash through wall street even though we know for a fact this was done during the vietnam war yes and uh... go watch american gangster

1:00:53 Yep, which is basically more of a documentary than a nonfiction piece. Yeah with a hot actor, you know Benzo Washington really hot women love him But there's so much more to it. The British part really freaked me out there for a second though, because I thought it was just US, but I guess the... What was the first, because he says it's the second British opium war. What was the first? That was the one in China where they said you guys are taking tea and we're taking the opium. No, I'm sorry, it was the other way around. They said you're taking our opium wherever they got it from and you're going to use that and we're going to take your tea. Give us your tea!

1:01:30 And so the first opium when there was actually a little war over this thing because the Chinese were, we don't want opium it's going to kill our people too bad. Right but now it's killing the Russian people. Right and that's why the Russians are so upset about what's going on and so then one of our guys General Jones goes over there and says yeah you're right I don't know what we're gonna do about it boom he's fired. You're out dude shut up. Come on I mean jeez how much further can we take this you know I mean it shows up this guy from executive intelligence the magazine I'm sure you're right call her yes like you know it should be that document that you're supposed to sign before we're on C-SPAN yeah so ladies and gentlemen once again the TSA naked body scanners distraction of the week on the woods agenda look over there

1:02:21 Wow good catch John good one I give you max points for that that's and thank yeah and thank you for for watching that say yeah I have to yeah I do know a lot more than I knew but I mean it's like okay well you know what we've got low friends in high places and and by the way my email now is I installed new canoe PGP Which is the new version of PGP. It's actually pretty simple to install now. I could do it in like 15 minutes. And so you can send me encrypted email and documents. It's really safe now. And I encourage everyone else who has something to say. To talk about encrypted email documents, what do you think the deal is with the Swedes deciding to

1:03:08 to arrest if they can find him. Oh Assange? Julian Assange? Yeah that guy. Yeah well I think as we predicted it's time for two to the head for the guy. Well maybe he's gone off the reservation. Forget that. What is the What is the deal with Jimmy Wales's head on every Wikipedia page? This is... From different angles. But you know, it's like, is he trying to look like a sad little child from Malawi? No, he thinks he's a hunk, to be honest about it. Now let me tell you something that a lot of people don't realize. I mean, Wales is kind of... He's always kind of puffed up when you run into him. And he's very... And he's got that, you know, that kind of funny looking...

1:03:53 short crop beard thing, you need a special razor to cut. And he has a business card. The Don Johnson razor, right. He has a business card and on his business card there is a picture of him. Oh, that's what I have on my business card, a picture. No, he's got a picture on the business card, he's got his name and his picture and if you turn the business card over it's a full picture. Oh, wow, it's a porno card. so he has a card that which is did you say i've never seen anyone do this but he has a picture on the front end of the whole full picture the whole back of a card is his face one of those pictures that you see on the uh... wiki page and i just think it's a pickup card they look at me you are not a good thing that i'm looking at you know so

1:04:35 You know, there's good and bad about Wikipedia. Bad is kids are being taught to use it in school as absolute truth. Yeah, which is bad. Which is really bad. But good because for general information, there's some validity to it. But every single... Yeah, except for the big chunks. Every single page has his picture on it, like we need money. But why his picture? Why not... I think he's trying to get laid. Okay, well there you go. Just thank you. It's mystery solved Just trying to get late I got a lot of flack from some of our producers and listeners which of course the same thing from get my nation leprechaun or also known as get my nation shamrock get my nation broke ass and

1:05:19 Ireland and I played that clip from the Minister of Finance on the BBC on Thursday show and people like hey that guy's actually he's a dork he's a total dick and he's part of the problem and of course I know very little about Ireland other than you too is from there and then I have been to Ireland once and is of course stunningly beautiful country but there's this video... More colors of green there than anywhere. It's beautiful But there's a clip, it's called the Irish crisis in 30 seconds. The clip lasts two minutes, interestingly enough. But I do want to play it because it does indeed explain... No wonder they're out of money! It's exactly the problem! But listen to it because it really... and a lot of people say this is the guy you want to listen to. Here's the information. This is what really happened and why Ireland is in a bind. The ailing Irish economy is still afloat. That's the message from the country's leaders as they insist they don't need bailing out.

1:06:20 For many people outside Ireland, the swift decline of the Celtic Tiger economy is somewhat baffling. David McWilliams, a leading Irish economist, says he can explain it in 30 seconds. It's very simple. We misdiagnosed a large overdraft from Germany as an economic miracle. The Germans lent money to the Irish banks, who lent money to the Irish people. And then when that money started to run out, or when the Germans wanted their money back about two years ago, we didn't have it. That's exactly what happened. And the reason we didn't have it is we spent it all on houses and our balance sheet looks like this. Houses on one side, debts on the other, house prices are falling

1:07:02 and the cost of debt is rising. Well there you go. So I didn't know that. It was the German banks who lent to the Irish banks and then Gitmo Nation Deutschland said hey, we're calling in our loans, we're calling in the marker. Yeah we're calling in the marker dude, send it back. Why did you give it to us in the first place? We're not prepared to give it back to you yet. What's that all about? But that's not the way Europe is supposed to work is it? I mean two years ago. Well I have no idea how Europe is supposed to work. I don't know that it works. So anyway, I don't really think it does work. But very interesting analysis to understand how and of course what's happening now. I won't play the rest of the report but you can see for yourself it's in the show notes.

1:07:49 is that all the new Irish workforce, they're all preparing, even in school, they interview a couple kids at school, they're preparing to go to New York, to London, Hong Kong, anywhere. Everyone's leaving the country en masse. And you know when everyone leaves the country, that's when guys like the IMF and the other economic hitmen come in and buy pieces of the country. Okay I'll take this, that's mine. It's all about land at the end of the day. Yeah. It's all about the land. I think we should buy some land ourselves. We should get some Irish... In Ireland. Some leprechaun land. If we wait long enough we might be able to afford it.

1:08:26 Yeah, well not at the rate we're going. But let's talk about some of that. So we got a few people we want to thank this week for helping us out, helping us produce this show on this fine Sunday. Sir John Smith of Alpharetta, Georgia. a hundred dollars and he says that come on guys we have a dvd i which is interesting to do she bag index of ninety nine percent of number john and you could at least find five or ten bucks

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1:10:32 He's got a trgt.com.au. No, it's trgtd. It's a... trgtd.com.au. I'll take a look at that. Is it for an iPhone app? Yeah, for the iPhone. Oh, cool. I'll take a look. I'm a fan of getting things done. It works. Good luck. Michael Kearns. Now we know you don't use it, that's for sure. Maybe I need it. I should get an iPhone. Flat City, Missouri. 6969 ITM John Adam most don't know there's a Kansas City Missouri and a Kansas City Kansas I know I mentioned it last week and because there you did oh that's me I'm rolling out a new website next week developed by interns and need some karma does he have a website address for that yet apparently

1:11:15 you've got karma john snyder sir john snyder at chicago illinois sixty seven dollars donating to remind everybody to brine their turkeys out what is the process of brining is taking the bird a person needed huge pot and then you take the bird and you do and you give me there's a solution you can look up on the internet of water uh... some spices and salt lots of salt of course i'm ryan air brine would make sense and dump the turkey in there for like 24 to 48 hours, something like that. And then it soaks up some of this stuff. Hey, I might try that. I'm doing the turkey this year. It makes a juicier bird. Really? So brine. Okay. Well, that's a great tip. Look at brining turkeys. If you want to practice, and anyone who is skeptical, I don't do it. I do it with chickens once in a while.

1:12:02 chickens, brine chickens are quite good. Well if you're skeptical then I may not want to do it. No, no, I'm only skeptical because I don't really like, I don't have a problem cooking turkey properly so I don't believe I need to brine my turkey. Is it easier to brine? Is that the whole idea? Well it makes the bird less likely to to dry out the bird. A lot of people, they overcook their turkey and you gotta cook it. You know that this brining will of course cause heart attacks and early coronary disease. Well, yeah. According to the survey shows. Yeah, according to the American Public, CBS. I'm also, I'm gonna do candied yams. So I need a good recipe for candied yams. I got a great recipe for yams. We'll do it right now. Ready? Yeah.

1:12:43 Now this I got from Emeril and I have tried it a couple times, it's fantastic. Well it's not your recipe then, it's from Emeril. No, no, all recipes are not my recipe. Oh, okay. But believe me, you wanted a good recipe, I'm gonna give you. Yeah, I wanna go, alright, good. You bake like how many yams you're gonna, get some garnet yams, those are the sweetest. Garnet yams? Yeah, garnet yams are good. So you get some garnet yams and you maybe about three or four of them. and have five depend on the c with the big ones you gotta cook and find in the oven uh... you have to bake in the other so they get kinda sweet but he is going to take you an hour and fifteen minutes to do this and you wait until the and put over foil because is dis who's groups out of this it the ends

1:13:20 And then you take and you pull them out and then you split them open and you scrape out all the good stuff, all the insides, including the stuff along the skin if you can. And then you mix it in with butter, and you can figure out the proportions as you do it, butter, cream, and bourbon. Ooh, bourbon, right. And I'm telling ya, it is... But how does it get candyized? It's, it's, well you didn't, I'm not, it's the candy ice takes place during the baking process, they're actually kind of candy. What people do is they put in honey and things like that to make them a little sweeter. You can put a little honey in if you want to. Just get the garnet yams though, that's the best. To this recipe. Right. But it's the bourbon, bourbon and cream. Enough said. I love it, I love it. Anyone out there can experiment with the proportions.

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1:15:00 they should be able to cough up a few bucks and I get laid off, oh I'm sorry. I think he means I got laid off. No, no, I get laid off for four months a year. Right, because there's no school. Right, and he can afford it. And he can afford it. Well thank you very much Martin, we really appreciate that. Big deal for us. Kevin doosling or let's go Kevin deuce deuce bag doosling donating his money on behalf of my friend Justin Caldwell who celebrate his 25th birthday with him a call at a second Can you need some karma? You've got karma

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1:18:07 uh... and shall of art dot com if you can't get to the right dot org slash n a and uh... we have the uh... new uh... initiative on there for a dollar an hour which you should read about the ideas that you would get more than a dollar an hour's worth of entertainment compared to what you pay for a movie uh... palettes what ten bucks an hour and that you can't listen to it over and over which you can do with our show and uh... we also have the nine or nine or nine or saying well you know nine or nine or nine or so that i found that distressing yet that is a little stress it's a brand new promotion and goes right down the drain yeah well these things you know they're all experimentally never know what sticks now do we want to talk about some of the new initiatives working on you and i uh... we've got you know we're going to do a talking points memo which i think is valuable

1:18:54 uh... i've come to the conclusion and adam and i've discussed this uh... which is that on email only by the way we haven't actually talked well we talk kind of on email that's why not to try not to talk it ruins the show because we'll talk about stuff that never goes on the show so we have to be careful and and and four hours a week is enough And by the way, the other thing is I like I talked to me I said I know what I've got I got a good thing for this show I'll bet you Adams got the same one a and so we always this is a slight competition here Which is this show is not rehearsed. No, it's rehearsed by the individual I mean we think of the stuff we're gonna do but we don't work it together. We work off of each other and shows organized

1:19:35 And that's why we can't do the show in the same studio either. No, because you know, it's what a distraction that would be. Yeah, I mean, I like when I work with Leo Laporte, you know, we've worked together before in the same room and we actually work better because, you know, we know all our cues, but that would ruin this show because we'd be cuing off each other and it'd become more of a comedy act. Yeah. And let's face it, we're no comedians. Yeah. just now all right so so we've got the talking points memo that will go out to everyone who has donated is that how that works well it's gonna go out to everyone's on the mailing list so we can encourage people to get on the mailing list right you can see it when you go to no agenda show there's a link to it there's a link on curry calm and there's a link on Dvorak org when I do when I post the show

1:20:18 And if you get on that mailing list, you'll get the talking points memo. And the talking points memo is going to be a short summary, like on the TSA thing, of real succinct points. Because this is what political parties do and candidates. Everybody uses this because what you can do is if you know what the, and there's going to be few of them. You don't have a lot of them. You just have a strong little points, like when Adam had his little discussion with his producer friend at the dinner the other night in Hollywood. uh... he added those are kinda talking points that he was addressing if you have these you can do you rail usually people who were argumentative And you can or you could just get him thinking about something I mean what I personally like is if you can throw a talking point out there that then they start asking you questions once you've got someone asking you questions Then you're golden if you're in charge. Yeah, yeah, I mean then it's like oh well go ahead ask me I've got some answers for you. That's that's the the magic that you wanted to when can we get this first one out John? Can we get this one out before Thanksgiving?

1:21:15 well i'm guy that uh... i can't i will let me know that's a no that's enough i want to get a mailing out to announce the talking points to people and then maybe i can get one out before christmas i wanted to do the first one in january but i can probably do one in a few weeks i think i i i i i want to get this man let people join up to so they can get excited i'm not gonna like re you know i don't want to send them out over and over again i want to post them But anyway, no no it's exclusive exclusive for people who are on the mailing list and it's very important you support this show Dvorak dot org slash na channel Dvorak comm slash na the $5 supporters the lucky 33 the $30 the boarding pass

1:21:56 Everybody, we appreciate it so much. We really do. Keep telling more people, particularly this holiday season coming up, and you're certainly going to be able to say, I knew all this was coming down, all this tea, say crap, I know. How do you know? Well, I've been listening to the show called No Agenda. I knew about this a half year ago. I knew about all this. I knew it was happening. It's a part of something bigger. and uh... and and you do certainly by now you can easily talk about the money uh... where the money's going what the real pushes for the scanners you can talk about the radiation you don't need no talking points you've been listening to the show for two weeks you got enough talking points for thanksgiving and don't be a dick about it just noticed the new york army outside all of you know it's as people always want to be on the inside really knew about all this plan to this is coming to the

1:22:42 we knew this and it will do get on brooklyn real television you get on like ccc span you want to spend all these these two guys who wants to watch cc now you don't have to because these two guys to do it so you don't have to it's really cool you check it out no agenda show dot com right so that that's pretty much that's talking points for the show will be one of those two and i wish you are listening to the show and i do want to mention when i was at soho house john where i had we had the dinner with uh... with Frank Karachi. Soho, south of Houston? Yeah, the Soho house is originated in London. It's where it's like all the Hollywood elite are members of the Soho club and you can't use your cell phone and it's like a club and you can't use your you can't take pictures and so you know they got all the big directors and stars hang out there and you have to be a member and you get blackballed and all this. Oh, it was a

1:23:34 It was the club? It's the club, yeah. Oh, and you got invited? Yeah, the second time actually. But this was a, yeah, so Frank said... Was the food any good? Yes, I was going to mention that because they had on the menu a brand new item for dessert, Persimmon's Pudding Bread. That should have been delicious. It was amazing. And I actually, I called it, I said, hey, you know, and Frank by the way, you know, I think he likes to eat. And I said dude you totally won. I'm just like this is like I used your talking point I'm like Oh persimmons bread man. You're gonna love this. I've never had in my life right It's like it can't go wrong with persimmons bread. It's this Native American fruit It's back in vogue everyone's talking about it, and he attacked it like oh my god. This is great You're so right another win for no agenda not just on the political front But you can also say I could have said well you know I learned about this on no agenda

1:24:30 I've got a quiz for you John because you know, you know you've really made it. You know you're really in. You know that you are there. That you are at the top. You are, I mean you are in the public discourse. You are a part of the conversation when you are the clue to a question on Jeopardy. Would you agree with me? Oh yeah. Okay. Here we go John, this is from the college Jeopardy! It's the finals, it's the final Jeopardy! It's the final question, November 19th, 2010. Yale against Boston and some other college. The guy wasn't wearing a sweatshirt with his college on it, douche. Of course the Boston chick wins.

1:25:08 The Yalie guy has... it doesn't matter. Listen to the final question for Final Jeopardy. Ladies and gentlemen, I invite your attention to this. Our living planet is the category for final today. And here is the clue that will determine, help determine our champion. Several species appear in the logo of the UN's international year of this 12-letter word. Vital to the health of life on Earth. 30 seconds players, good luck. John, what could it be? I'm betting it all, betting it all. Wait, all your money? You can't seriously be betting all of it. Why don't we listen to the answer and then we'll look at your card and see if you're right. Okay, you write it down. We'll see if you're right. We'll begin with you. You were in third place with an impressive $13,800. Did you come up with the correct 12-letter word? You said, what is conservation?

1:26:03 Oh, conservation. It will cost you how much? $2,999. That drops you down to $10,801. You had no money yesterday, so you remain with that total. You're a douchebag. Let's go to Sam Spaulding. $14,000. He's the Yale guy. Which 12-letter word did he think of? What is biodiversity? There you go, everybody. Of course you had it. Biodiversity. Which how many letters in that one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen actually in biodiversity Because you have two e's at the end with the axon on the first one so that the jeopardy question was actually incorrect It's so 13 letters and then and then but listen this was even funnier because the girl who won Because she didn't bet a lot of money listen to her answer is the correct word the wager

1:26:59 So that's this guy. Now listen to the girl who wins, what her answer was. I mean she was looking for 12 letters. What is diversity? What kind of idiot are you? I mean, if you have to have 12 letters and you write down diversity... I mean, how stu... She's got the diversity part, how can she mess up the bio part? I don't understand how that works. Anyway...

1:27:37 So she wasn't brainwashed to death to the point where she would come to her. What was the school that that kid who got it right? Where was he from? Yale! You're typical. Yeah, of course. There you go, ladies and gentlemen. It is now an official Final Jeopardy answer. Biodiversity. Remember you say it loud and proud. When everyone's talking about it, you say, excuse me, it's pronounced biodiversity. All right. We have to move to a new Plavix ad.

1:28:13 Oh yeah, let's do that. What does Plavix do? I forget. It's just another one of those things that'll kill you. But the point is that this one's interesting because this is another one of those ads where one of your kids is lecturing you. Oh yeah, you're stupid. It must be for heart attack then. You're stupid. And so the one that's... what's really interesting about this one is that, yeah, and is this... the kid... they're making the kids younger. This is like a young girl. She's probably about 12. And she's got an iPhone and she's lecturing her mom based on the search that she does on the iPhone and reads from the Wikipedia and everything else. Oh, and look there's a picture of Jimmy Wales. It's just like, give me a break. Hit it. Mom, new shoes? Old legs. P.A.D. the doctor said. P.A.D. P.A.D.? Pad? P.A.D.?

1:29:05 Can't you get your old looks set up? PAD isn't just poor circulation in your legs causing you pain. It more than doubles your risk of a heart attack or stroke. I was gonna tell you. If you have PAD, Plavix can help protect you from a heart attack or stroke. Plavix helps keep blood platelets from sticking together and forming clots. The cause of most heart attacks and strokes. Call the doctor about Plavix, please. I will. Certain genetic factors and some medicines such as Prilosec reduce the effect of Plavix, leaving you at greater risk for heart attack and stroke. Your doctor may use genetic tests to determine treatment. Don't stop taking Plavix without talking to your doctor, as your risk of heart attack or stroke may increase. People with stomach ulcers or conditions that cause bleeding should not use Plavix.

1:29:47 Taking Plavix alone or with some other medicines, including aspirin, may increase bleeding risk. So tell your doctor when planning surgery. Tell your doctor all medicines you take, including aspirin, especially if you've had a stroke. If fever, unexplained weakness, or confusion develops, tell your doctor promptly. These may be signs of TTP, a rare but potentially life-threatening condition reported sometimes less than two weeks after starting Plavix. Other rare but serious side effects may occur. Talk to your doctor about Plavix. So very interesting and I have a follow on to this, but if you Google PAD, which you almost expect Google to say, did you mean iPad? No. You Google PAD, pad, a word that's been around for a long time, ever since there's been frogs, you immediately get peripheral artery disease.

1:30:34 It's right there, peripheral artery disease. Actually, you have two ads on my Google. I have one ad, the top is... I have two ads and two on the side, so I have four ads. And then one, two, and then the top two hit. So I got one, two, three, four things at the top and two on the side. Huh, that's pretty amazing. And then right after that comes LegalPad. Now I'm signed in. I don't even get LegalPad, I've got Wikipedia. Yeah, but you're not signed in. You can bet on that, my friend. So I'll sign out. I don't get pad outdoor is the is the that's the eighth hit no I'm sorry I was signed out let me sign in and then after they get pod tie then I start to get some other pad so this is the problem with Google I speaker Boehner avoids airport pad down okay that's good yeah now it's a Mayo Clinic heart.org so this is actually interesting you bring this up John

1:31:34 Do you know what was finally released today? I only know yeah, I only saw it this morning on the Clinton foundation org so I haven't had oh wait a minute stop So you went to the Clinton foundation org and you found they finally filed their paperwork. Yes. They have filed their form 990 great, that's correct and so they do two documents one is the IRS form 990 and This is for 2009 by the way, so this does not include any Haitian relief We'll have to wait for another year to find out what happened to that money But you know what I have a feeling I won't forget and then they do in a little analysis which of course is the report from BK D LLP CPAs and advisors Who are the auditors who of course say hey these numbers are right and we we trust in all this and

1:32:33 So, again, $30 million in salaries in general. The same disclaimer, this is the top of the line stuff, right? I have to look at more. The same disclaimers that they have not actually formalized any procedures for retaining their top officers and managers, but they are working on this. They said the same thing in last year's report, which basically means, hey, you know, we're We're giving these people incentives to stay, but we haven't officially done anything official yet. So it's kind of ad hoc and whatever. So, you know, take it for what it is. Here's what's interesting. On their balance sheet, they have just shy of $120 million of property and equipment, which I find to be an astounding amount of money.

1:33:20 120 million dollars of property. Wow. Yeah, 30 million dollars in salaries and then the actual money coming in from public donations is like five million dollars. Do you know where a hundred and twenty two million dollars a year comes from? No, where? From the government. What? Yes, from government grants. A hundred and twenty two million dollars a year which is their largest item on the balance sheet on the income side comes from government. What a scam! Well, wasn't this guy just working for the government? Well, wait until you hear the real scam. So then I look at the other and for some reason I'm actually pretty good at finding weird things in annual reports. I've always been able to do this, you know, I was an officer of a public illicit company and I was not well loved amongst the management because they'd send around, you know, the report for shareholders and I'd be like, what's that? Shut up slave, be

1:34:18 be quiet this is fine Arthur Anderson loves us but the largest on the on the expenditure side is just shy of one hundred and two million dollars so almost evening out the one hundred and twenty two million dollars coming in so basically the money that comes in from the government hundred twenty million dollars let's say a lot of that goes towards salaries right twenty thirty million give or take who's counting oh by the way funny eleven million dollars in travel I'm telling you those jets are expensive

1:34:53 Yeah, you rent a jet. You're not traveling on an airplane, you're traveling on a private jet. On the expense side, the largest expense, 101 and some change, million dollars, pharmaceuticals. What? Pharmaceuticals. It's literally that. It's that, pharmaceuticals. What, is that referring to cocaine or what? No, I guess that's drugs. So the Clintons like a middleman for the... Oh, that they give away. So we get a hundred and twenty million dollars from the people, from the government, that's your money and my money, we give that to Clinton, he takes 30 mil for himself for the operating expenses and passes the rest on to the pharmaceuticals. Huh. Interesting how that works, huh? And by the way, everything is, every expenditure is listed under climate and health, climate and health, climate and health.

1:35:53 Everything is climate and health. And then they have all these big wire transfers that go to individual countries. I'm talking, you know, $500,000, a million dollars, two million dollars. But the recipients are redacted in the form 990. They're blocked out so you can't see who actually got that money. Other than a couple million to the Boston Clinic organization, Boston Health I should say, another non-profit. So it's like a big scam. The money comes from us, goes to Clinton, he sends it to the pharma companies, Then you know and and he travels around and he's got his expenses which also they have no formal procedure for expenses yet according to the form 990 And then he hands it out to other nonprofits and buddies and whatever it buddies. Yeah, and I'm sure it's doing you know It's doing great work. I'm sure I'm sure it's all great forced inoculations of people children in other lands

1:36:50 By the way, zero money collected for admissions at the Clinton Library this year. No one went. That's very funny. Zero. It literally says zero. Yeah, nobody goes. No one went to the library. Yeah, I got the Clinton Library. Really? What's the admission? Five bucks? How much did you do last year? Nothing. And there's like, I love on the form 90 is like, did you give any money to lobbyists? Zero. This is a big zero. No money to lobbyists. Uh huh. Right. Why would they? They are a lobbyist. They are the lobbyists. Of course they are. But just really interesting. I'm sure everything adds up and I'm sure all the numbers are correct, but it just kind of blew me away when the biggest expenditure almost equal to, you know, if you add the salaries, equal to what the American public is giving to the Clinton Foundation is going to the pharmaceutical industry. You know, screw that. Don't we have like USAID and all these other organizations? Why does Clinton have to be in the middle of it? We're just paying for his jet.

1:37:51 And by the way, the Clinton Global Initiative cost six million dollars just to do that conference. Nice. Yeah, nice work if you can get it. Yeah, for real. We're in the wrong business, Johnny boy, that's for sure. Yeah, no, we are in the wrong business, but we're stuck. Proves it once again. But luckily, very few of the human resources themselves are actually handing out money. It's very little money from other people. Very, very little. Well, no, all of them are. Because tax dollars go to the government. They tax the crap out of us in this country. 70% generally speaking. You really start to look at all the taxes you pay and fees that are really taxes. And it goes into the government and then they give it to Clinton. Yeah, exactly. So we're getting screwed. Yeah, exactly. Meanwhile in Haiti, where in a year from now we'll be able to see what happened to all the money that you texted into him. What now began as a rumor

1:38:51 that farmers saw waste from a UN peacekeeping base flow into a river is now mounting circumstantial evidence and perhaps real hard proof that the cholera uh... epidemic in haiti was brought on by u n peacekeepers who would come in from nepal that's right now we heard that and uh... but you and brought cholera into the place and now there's over a thousand dead and it's spread to uh... florida and dominican republic thanks to the u n peacekeepers who also shot a guy the other day that i i i i i i well there's also another report uh... cholera protests ebb in haiti but anger remains angry

1:39:33 It's some great reporting. Hey, you know, they're... Well, yeah, they protest, Ann, because the guys are either dead or shot. Yeah, but they're angry, man. Why are we even in the UN? Well, isn't our president the uber-feuder of the Security Council? I don't know, is he? Yeah, yeah, he is. Anyway, good job everybody. Hey, I can't wait to have another benefit show. Yeah, text your $10 to Clinton directly. Let's just remind you how that went one more time. Now right now, all we need from people, if you can't be part of a medical team or a search and rescue team, we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. Just send your cash. Thanks guys. Just send your cash.

1:40:28 uh... on the hollywood whackers front as i continue to keep my eye on the hills of hollywood yeah i know you have some information about the dead publicist uh... no new information other than and appears that she had five not five but three shots to the to the head and chest uh... now this is very disconcerting for the hollywood elite as our friend frank very system and then we now live in the hood uh... so what it's being sold as here is gang initiation to which i laughed heartily yeah yeah right when when you're getting initiated into a gang what they say is you've got to go to hollywood you've got to go back someone important yeah that's how you get into a gang these days i don't think so i don't become a made man in the mafia but i don't think this is that but issues well and who knows your reason they kill some you know you bring some up there this could be a different on that kind of level of uh... of hollywood mob

1:41:26 Then why wouldn't it be... become... someone had to be made? That's a possibility, but there has to still be some rationale for this particular woman getting murdered. Well, she's in PR, you know. PR runs the world. We know that. Yeah, but they just don't say, well, there's one... For one thing, you have to know who it is, because she has a car and she's got a license plate. I mean, it was a planned hit for a reason. I mean, was she like Randy Quaid? Was she being ripped off? I don't have the reason. I do have more information, though. which is real information but it's sketchy. November 7th, five casting directors in the Los Angeles area received death threats at their office telephones. The recipients reached out to authorities, actually to their union authorities who represent casting directors, were encouraged by the union to alert security personnel at the studios.

1:42:23 uh... representative ed duffy who confirmed uh... that the threats had occurred sent a mass email to members of the los angeles casting community warning them of the phone calls encouraging anyone else has been threatened to come forward uh... and a six casting director contacted him on november fifteenth here's a quote uh... pretty low blow to something like that to these casting directors or by the way there's probably five million actors who would uh... be suspect in uh... and he's death threats uh... but of course uh... names or workplaces or what the actual threats were or what they or or why have not been revealed yet but uh... i've got my ear to the ground but i thought that was interesting just along the lines of this and we're just going on here hollywood and we heard from randy quaid recently we have not we have not heard from him we have heard from wesley snipes who was uh... going to the big house although i don't think he's actually entered yet and you remember that uh... he didn't file for his taxes which is kinda scary

1:43:20 Because it's one thing to say I'm not going to pay. It's another thing if you didn't file and maybe like, oh yeah, dude, I'll work it off. I think he owed a lot of money. He didn't file, didn't pay. But he's going to jail for three years. The Atlanta judge said, hey look, you've appealed time enough now. It's time for you to start serving. You got to go to jail. Yeah, well this you know they do the IRS does this every so often they find a hype the highest profile guy They can they did the James Brown as you recall Wow I do remember that yeah And they do that they find a guy high profile and make a big deal about sending him to jail so everybody all the slaves out there Oh my god if they could send Wesley Snipes to jail. What's gonna happen to me exactly well Let me send Wesley a little bit of karma for a second here. You've got karma

1:44:12 He did go off the track a little bit, but he does everyone, every state. And why do you send somebody to jail if they owe money? They can't pay it off in jail. This is like a pauper's prison. I thought they were outlawed, but the IRS seems to think this. They have argued that, well, no, it's better because it's a deterrent for other people. Because they see this guy go to jail. We're not sending everybody to jail. We can't afford to do that, but we're going to send him to jail. I agree with you completely. It makes no sense. The guy could be out there making... He could be working for the Ministry of Truth. He could do movies that say government's great, the feds are the best. I mean, they could use him for so many things. So many good things. Positive. Now we have to, you know, it's going to cost us, not, I mean, you get a celebrity like that, it's not $40,000 a year. It's going to be $200,000 a year because of all kinds of special stuff when he gets transported and, you know, PR and all that. And it's going to cost a lot of money. It makes no sense. He can be a very productive member of society.

1:45:12 Well, they think it's worth it. Speaking of such, I got a recommendation here from producer Jamie. And I think Jamie may be, I don't know if Jamie is a guy or a girl, but says in the morning, here's the first line from the first chapter of a book, which I feel, which is an old book from 1928, which I feel should be on the No Agenda book list. So No Agenda book club site producers take notes. Here's the opening line, the conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. What book was that from, John? Power Elite, I don't know. Propaganda, written by Edward L. Bernays.

1:46:06 another propaganda book. 1928 the book is propaganda and I shall burn a is that guy is a famous for being one of the fathers if not the father of modern public relations exactly so what he's saying there is if you can control the minds of the slaves through PR Hill and Knowlton we were on to you then you are the true government So I think this book warrants reading. I've actually run into PR people that... Who act like they're the government? Yeah, I mean they actually, well, you know, people do what we tell them to and I mean it's just like, okay.

1:46:44 that's great i mean we're just basically uh... flies in the ointment the two of us on our show and i'm glad it wakes a lot of people up out there who are generous enough to help us continue doing this show but the fact of the matter is uh... by a new turn on the radio near here the four out of five according to a cbs survey don't think that the scanners a big deal well you know i see things happening and i think we are uh... We have forward motion, we have positive influence, even people who strongly disagree with language often used on this program in particular by me are listening, enjoy it, feel better for it and I think in combination with our talking points

1:47:34 We're actually going to we will make some difference Hey, if it's if it has to go one human resource at a time Then that's what it'll take then we'll do it as long as people keep supporting us. I think you I think generally speaking even though somebody sent us a note in the other day about how depressed they were after they listened to the show all the time, right? Uh, is it, the fact of the matter is the truth will set you free or even an angle on the truth or at least some, some free thinking is a, is a good thing because it will improve your general, I think, your attitude overall because you'll see through a lot of things and you won't be distracted and attracted to like crap. and you'll also be able to, you know, because you look, when you think for yourself on all levels, your job and, you know, and creativity and job performance always increases. It's always a good thing for a personal, it's just a personal thing. I mean, you're better off is the point. I think you said it right at the top there. The truth shall set thee free. So talk about the truth. I got a couple clips here that are kind of interesting. Okay. You familiar with the E-4B? E-4B. Boeing made four of them.

1:48:39 Oh, it's an aircraft. No, I-I-I-No, I don't. Well, play the clip. E4B Doomsday plane. Off at Air Force Base, Nebraska, a highly trained crew races to battle stations aboard this militarized 747. It looks like Air Force One, but it's not. It's called the E-4B. It's protected against nuclear blasts and can stay in the air for days. Armed security forces guard the plane 24-7.

1:49:25 These pilots are some of the most experienced in the Air Force. Their only job right now is to get the E-4B off the ground as quickly as possible. This drill is called an alert response. They practice it at least once a week because every second counts. This is America's doomsday plane. It's the flying fortress from which the president could run the country and direct US forces in a national emergency. Scrambling the E-4B is one critical part of the plans that kick into gear if America faces a doomsday scenario.

1:50:08 We've done the math ahead of time so we know that they're going to roll out three miles ahead of us. These plans are shrouded in secrecy. Doomsday plans are among the most closely held secrets of the US government. In the 1950s... John, are you watching military porn again? Now isn't this interesting, what channel do you think that was on? I would wager the military channel. National Geographic. Really? We gotta scramble, we gotta scramble, Doomsday Machine. I like the guy's voice. The Doomsday Machine. Play the Doomsday Playbook and then we can go and uh... The Doomsday... The Doomsday Machine. What? The Doomsday Playbook. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't notice you had another... Oh yeah, more military porn. I love it. What the government should do in case of a Soviet nuclear attack.

1:51:01 Every US president since Dwight Eisenhower has contributed to them. The plans have evolved over the years to account for new threats, but the goal remains the same. Survival of the federal government. Doomsday plans ensure that we would be able to ride out any sort of crisis, not just a nuclear attack, but terrorist incidents. Otherwise you've got just complete chaos after whatever event this is. It's the government's ultimate playbook. We've got the football. Straight on the doomsday machine. Alright, we're ready to go. Enable evil one.

1:51:43 So yeah, chaos won't happen with the president flying around this thing. It's a 747 with anti-radiation paint, essentially. Well, they got other things. It's got a bunch of weird vents and things sticking out of it and apparently a bunch of old, really old-fashioned computers that can't be taken out by EMPs. With punch cards. Pretty much. Cool. Speaking of EMPs, I just want to revisit uh... there's been a couple of the interesting postings about the uh... the missile that was sent off that uh... immediately of course was deemed a uh... uh... uh... uh... told me is like oh that's not a missile that's a contrail and uh... there was actually there was a a contrail that uh... flew across the new york skyline uh... a day later which was uh... immediately deemed uh... contrail

1:52:37 But now there are other experts who are coming out and saying, this is contrary to what I thought, they're saying it was actually a Chinese missile. which I think is an interesting spin. Yeah, this is Glenn Beck is the one who's promoting this idea too. But the fact of the matter is when we had the memos from the Navy saying there's going to be some, you know, stay out of the area ships. Well it's interesting you bring that up because... Why? Were they doing it for the Chinese benefit? Well one of our producers followed the link on the show notes from two shows ago to go to the uh... the equivalent of the uh... the military side the dot mil site which uh... uh... post the the notice to uh... to the ships at sea which is very much i'm not sure what's called what we call them no tams noticed airman uh... for aviation and uh... the link has been removed

1:53:32 The link to that, to the report for that, actually the entire week has been removed from the military site. This is not typical that you remove a notice to navigators. I've never seen it happen in aviation. You can go back years and find the exact weather conditions, the exact conditions of airfields, what was working, what wasn't. It's like critical evidence. you know particularly in uh... in mishaps that's what immediately it's like a was there a report that we know about this and how about this so they so they remove also try to get rid of all the evidence and then let's people like glenn beck go on and on about the chinese so this could become a false front flag of the uh... yeah i'm down with that i'm down with that i'm totally down with that now you know if they stitch it would have chinese a a score here in launching missile please on those what it is

1:54:27 They'd have the whole, they would go red alert. Well one thing we know it was not a contrail and we're being lied to because it just wasn't. In fact the footage, pictures have been cropped and changed that the government is, I have a whole bunch of links about it. So they get the little flame off the back of the off? Exactly, exactly. Yeah. Oh there's that little flame coming out of the back. How irritating, how irritating. Let's take that off. That's not right. Let's photoshop that out. Let's remove that. Well the whole thing is sketchy. And then there was something really weird that happened down under just the other day. I mean like really, really freaking weird, which may not be related but certainly worth mentioning. Something was in the air along the southeast Queensland coast early today. It showed up on the radar and turned the sky orange, but exactly what it was has everyone baffled.

1:55:18 First Light and Byron Bay locals were the first to see their own UFO, an unidentified floating object. The sky was just completely orange, almost like misty. Just noticed like a smoky haze on the horizon. It was different from the normal salt haze that we get. Shown here on the Weather Bureau radar as a blue and purple smudge, it was first detected off the Sunshine Coast. We saw what looked to be a couple of showers forming off the Fraser Island coast at about 9pm last night and then in a very un-weather like pattern they started to spread out into a long stream. By dawn it was off Cape Byron.

1:55:54 So we decided to give chase in our chopper. We've been flying in the area for some time but we're no closer to solving the mystery. We simply can't find whatever it is out there. Early speculation suggested it could have been metallic particles known as chaff blasted into the air by RAAF jets to confuse radars. Confused Byron locals say military planes have been active in the area. Don't know whether they're Hornets or F-111s but... Going straight past the lighthouse so very quick and at eye level. The Defence Force confirmed Super Hornets were operating north of Brisbane last night, but say chaff wasn't used. We wouldn't get a body of chaff remain together and move for a very long period. It would be dispersed by the wind. Still, it's given those living across the border something to talk about. I woke up this morning and my room was just like bright orange. It was amazing. It was beautiful. You were dawdly. Yeah, it was beautiful.

1:56:53 So of course there's no other questioning about this. I mean when the sky turns orange and it's visible on the radar as a cloud of orange, I think there would be some cause for concern. I always wonder about the, you know, what, maybe the, I don't know, unless the government, unless the government says... Sorry? What was that? Oh, you want to hear it again? Stay there as a ball, it's not much of a trail and didn't fall into the ground. So yes, after our show on Thursday, and I know we have a difference of opinion,

1:57:31 But there were trails all over the house and they flew the house. Yes, and they floated down inside They floated yes, they floated down onto the house I stood there and literally watched these con trails float down onto the house here John on to the relax you I Have a sore throat now I you know I wouldn't lie about this so that what looks like a contrail should they were just dumping fuel and you just happen to get it and that would give you a sore throat in a minute well there so they did it I took a picture and just did this smell like JP whatever they're using now JP 5 at 6 whatever you don't really smell anything but I do smell it

1:58:16 it is like a recent listen no i took a picture i know it cares and smells like it took a picture there's there's two trails going at parallel to each other and then one weaves in and out between the other two like like the plane was like doing a slalom And then those three trails just floated down from the 26,000 feet where contrails are created as you know as as contrail believe anti chem trailers will have you believe and they floated all the way down to the ground. So I you know I don't know what it is. You were you on LSD at the time? No no come on. I'm serious here for a second. This is it's not. You do have photos you're gonna put on the on the show notes.

1:58:53 no i i'll take it out but i mean the show knows but i already uh... tweeted it i blog did it so my flickr site and another person who lives in the hills in the link right now okay hold on a second good one uh... or on all of us and you link and you tell me what you think it is hold on uh... eric had a funny line about making a bested a brining turkey make turkey sous vide what sous vide that's that's low cooking thing i bitched and moaned about in a whole show Oh, right. There's like, you know, tepid water. It'd be a night... bacterial nightmare. That sounds not so good. Okay, hold on. So let me go to my Flickr site. Okay, and I want... this is good. I actually do want you to take a look at this and you tell me what you think this is. Wait, that's not the one I wanted. I think I only tweeted about it. Maybe I didn't put it on my...

1:59:54 Yeah, I probably only tweeted about it. Can you just go to the photos? Yeah, I do just go to Twitter. I actually failed myself here go to Twitter go to Twitter slash Adam Curry Yeah, no, let's do it. I mean, okay. I'm very serious about this. Okay, bitter Okay, calm slash and damn curry right and go down a little bit and very live now no agenda be me being And we go down. Picture of the day? No. Curry Cloud? You want to go to the 18th of November. I guess we hit some sore spots on no agenda today in the morning.

2:00:35 Then you click on that and it's a twit pic and you tell me what this is 18th of November I hit that one Yeah now take a look at that picture and you tell me and and you can see the the hill across the way so you can see how low these actually are and you can see that it's kind of looks like a missile Well, no, but you see they disperse these contrails they disperse and and look at it's in a curve and Yeah, it's weird. What is that? And look at the sky above it. It's like all like trails of gunk and stuff, man. And that floated down onto the house. Now we're at 823 feet here. So I'm estimating what the picture you're seeing here is about 3,000 feet above sea level. Okay, I thought you had pictures of it floating down to the house that was visible.

2:01:25 It's, um, this is almost floating. The one that is dispersed here, that's probably only a thousand feet above me. I mean, I can take pictures as it comes all the way down. I don't know. I have no idea what that is. It looks weird. Doesn't look right. And maybe, yeah, maybe they're spraying you with insecticide for all I know. Well, I'm not too happy about it. I wouldn't be if that stuff was falling on my house. No. But it actually floats down and falls on the house, so it can't be a contrail. No, it has to be some sort of gunk. Not liking it. Anyway. Well yeah, but what would it be specifically? Chemtrails. I'm saying specifically, chemtrails is a generality. What do you think it is? Salt? No, barium, aluminum. Barium? Yes. What is that going to do to you? Make you crap? I don't know. Is barium good for you? Is aluminum good for you? I'm sure nothing is good for you. Is aluminum good for you? Because that's what people have measured in this stuff, is barium and aluminum.

2:02:30 I don't know what aluminum does to you. I mean, it's controversial. A lot of people think aluminum has all kinds of negative effects on the body, but yet they still keep selling aluminum cookware. I'll tell you something, I don't use deodorant anymore. I mean, I use a healthy form of it because otherwise I smell. but I don't use spray-on deodorant because it actually sprays aluminum right into your armpit, very sensitive area, and it goes into your body. I don't use it anymore. I don't use toothpaste with fluoride, and I feel pretty good, but when they're dropping stuff on my house, I'm not too happy about it. You're on the... like a memo comes out. Yes. This guy stopped using perspirant and antiperspirant, and I noticed he stopped buying fluoride toothpaste. All right, well just bomb him with the stuff.

2:03:13 Well you can make light of it but I'm getting reports from everywhere around Gitmo Nation and people are aware of this and I've been watching the skies since I was a little boy and I know the difference between the contrary. Okay so what is it doing to you? You yourself say that it's to calm you down, I don't see any evidence of that. We both have very sore throats. Well, that's not good. No, it's not good Mickey has a has nodules in her throat and I can you know And I don't want to like freak her out But I think it is from possibly from stuff that is being drawn and by the way, you know We have the entire Hollywood water reservoir next to our house, which I'm sure that's not like they're like, let's get that bastard I'm sure it's not me but the water reservoir. Yeah, I think that's a possibility and

2:03:56 It's literally next to our house. Yeah, but why would you have to go through all that rigmarole and you can just send somebody down with a tanker truck and dump the stuff directly in? I don't have the answer. I don't have the answer. But I do know I get up at 5.30 in the morning twice a week and there's always a beautiful blue sky, except for this morning of course, beautiful blue sky and I'll see nothing but streaks across the sky and they're just floating down to earth. That's all I know. Sure it's not like... okay. Yeah, alright. I don't know. I have no idea. I agree with you. It's a weird looking photo. Doesn't make any sense unless somebody launched a missile from the middle of the Hollywood Hills which seems highly unlikely. No, because it didn't travel in that type of trajectory.

2:04:41 But that's okay. The thicker part of the thing is at the bottom, which indicates it would have been something that was launched. No, that's just as it dissipates, because it floats down and then it starts to spread out. Yeah, but the part that's dissipating is the part where it began. No, no, no, that's just a piece in the middle. Oh, it looks like where it began. Well, it's very hard to capture. It's like capturing the Grand Canyon. I will put the picture on the website. Can I just say something? It's like capturing the Grand Canyon. You can't really understand it from the picture unless you're looking right at it. I try to take panorama pictures. It's very hard to really depict it. You can't show distance. You can't show altitude. I had one over the house that was similar to that.

2:05:21 Some months back they took a couple pictures of it was impossible because the thing was like a mile wide and it was just look like you know It didn't look like you couldn't but you could see it was some sort of but it wasn't a contrail is all I want to know it was like something from a rocket right smoke. Okay. Hey good news Time bird flu was back first time in seven years human case. Hey everybody. We're in Hong Kong Oh, great. Yep, first case of human bird flu. They're definitely trying to kill us with this bird flu. They just can't seem to get it into the wild yet. Well, you know, now that we have it in people again, that's the good news. So, you know, I think we need to up the TSA and we need to have the bird flu scanner for avian influenza. Cho came out again, your favorite girlfriend.

2:06:12 chill from the world health organization uh... idiot alia yeah let me bring up her uh... her quote here i think uh... she was in time the uh... true ministry of truth uh... hong kong confirmed but but but but uh... let's see uh... here we go health secretary doesn't even say of the world health organization how good is time uh... health secretary york child is that uh... Is she the woman? No, it's Margaret something. Huh? Maybe they're related. This is I think one of our locals. It says Hong Kong has confirmed its first case of human bird flu in seven years. I presume that would be the Hong Kong health secretary York Chow. That could be. Probably brother of Margaret. Said late Wednesday a 59 year old woman had tested positive for H5N1 bird flu. So now we've got, we all know what H1N1, I tell you H5 sounds a lot worse.

2:07:08 With the announcement, the government raised the bird flu alert to serious, meaning there's a risk of contracting the disease within the territory. Chow said Hong Kong officials were meeting Thursday to determine whether additional measures were needed to safeguard local residents. The bird flu first struck Hong Kong in 1997. You'll recall I was in Europe at the time of the avian bird flu and wow man, they were killing birds. Yeah. Everywhere. In fact, I lived on grounds that had tons of birds and it came within two kilometers, the zone that had to be culled. And we were very worried that they would come on, guys in hazmat suits would come onto our territory and start killing our swans and stuff like that. And it was very frightening.

2:07:55 So I do think though, it's a possibility the media will jump on this because people are going to get very tired of the TSA talk. That's going to end. And this is how media works and whenever someone says, what do you do? I said, I'm a media assassin. Nice to meet you. And usually people by the way say, oh, that's cool. We need more of you. Whatever you do, that sounds good. I believe that they will probably latch on to something like this. We need another scare. We need another distraction and there's a good chance that the avian bird flu, the H5N1, will crop up this week in the media. So be on the alert for that. Yeah, we'll follow that. That is a bad one. No, it's definitely not fun. No, 80% kill rate.

2:08:41 Anything else you'd like you've got some stossel stuff. We want to do anything with that or stossel stuff's kind of off the wall We can do that next show. It's not that interesting. I think we're wrapping up here aren't we? Yeah, I think we are Is there anything else that was happening this week? That was of I mean we didn't talk about the carnival ship. I Well, there's no news about it. No one's following it. Well, they put it in dry dock and it's going to stay there because of a fire for what, months and months? Yeah, right. It needs a lot of repairs. That fire was so incredibly bad. I will say, by the way, some people did come out with their cell phones, so the EMP did... If you're inside of a ship and it's an outboard EMP, it might not penetrate the hull.

2:09:25 whatever the case was there's a lot of people that still had their cell phones those things finally showed up on the uh... net uh... photos of people the ac in at themselves and showing the smoke it was just basically black smoke coming off the stack in a little blue smoke coming out of a window was really minor doesn't seem like you have to keep the ship in the dock there and where san diego by any chance is it yes and ego course where you know the military's action is taking place so there's something still fishy about the story has been completely talking about something disappearing off the front page news, it's gone. Yep, totally gone from the conversation as is the rocket. Yeah. Well the rocket's not completely gone because Beck went on off the deep end this week about it and he brought it back into the conversation but even though it's crazy. You know he's a cruising for one. Well now when he's saying it's the Chinese thing I mean he may be actually giving delivering the message they want. Could be. You know the harem scare, the Chinese, all these Chinese are gonna kill us.

2:10:25 uh... kind of thing is a lot and they chinese stuff going on because of the trade war that you know subtle trade war that's beginning always this is an actor thing now is that is a bunch of stuff going on mostly about them but the uh... monetary defected their date no matter what we do that we've that we've stolen their money by uh... by devaluing our currency right yeah but yeah that's one of the things that they're sitting there trying to make that claim and and and those and by it's a long story okay we'll prepare for that two other things i'd like to mention the gsm a on the tech front that's the gsm association uh... has now launched uh... an initiative to remove the the entire concept of sim cards for future phones what's oh yeah no more sim cards they want that's a disaster well yahoo

2:11:15 And of course there's two reasons for it. One is of course we don't want you, you know, we wanted to tie you into our phones and service. That's essentially melding the two together. And the other one is, you know, you can't just buy a prepaid SIM card anymore. No more SIM card for you. So you have to buy a whole phone. Yeah. So when I go to Germany with my GSM phone and I want to get a local GSM card so I don't have to pay roaming charges that are just, Yeah, I think you've experienced it and other people have that just happen to get keep their old SIM card running and they come back home and it's a $10,000 phone bill. Yeah, I want to go to the post office and grab a German SIM card from Deutsche whoever and put it in there and it cost me like 40 bucks and I can make local calls. I can't do that anymore because no service for you.

2:12:12 interesting and then i'm so happy to read this uh... this article which is in the register outstanding publication by the way i think the register is generally pretty good uh... they have a uh... an article here about what's companies in the cloud in the cloud which i have now pretty much successfully migrated off of except for uh... obviously file hosting uh... but certainly my email is now off the cloud what companies charge for government surveillance Google charges $25 per user and of course everyone's just focused on the money and Microsoft is in more interesting. They charge nothing like they just like yeah here it is no What do you want and that's for wiretaps pen registers? This it's a big money maker for these guys if you want the money in the cloud is by selling the information to the feds 25 bucks Google gets Yahoo charges $29 and I

2:13:10 And there are millions of these. Millions. No wonder the cloud's so popular. Yeah. And what's wrong with Microsoft? Do they got their heads up their butts? They don't know how to make any easy money? I don't know. I don't understand why they're not charging. It's crazy. They should get on that train, man. Are you guys nuts or something? But it just goes to show that these companies are more than willing to hand over your email for anything. They get a subpoena, they've got a whole process, there's been plenty of articles about it. And they, oh, there's another $28.50, if you're Yahoo, Yahoo Mail, everybody, there's another $29. Oh yeah, what, Mr. Fed, you want the email? Oh, here it is, here, take the email, no problem. So I'm resurrecting my use of PGP. Feel free to send me encrypted emails.

2:14:00 Even if it's just to say hi, it's not a problem anymore. It's really easy. Well, that's good. Yeah. Well, I'm doing my best. All right. Well, I'll send you a PGP encrypted message one of these days. Just a thought, John. I mean, most of our messages back and forth. Hey, did you see this? Look at this link. That secret C-SPAN program I was watching. Says that all comes out on the show. Well, uh, all my chemtrail pictures I'm gonna encrypt when I send them to you though. I don't want that getting out anywhere. And by the way, your ISP is not immune from this. Oh yeah, I know. Okay, I'm just saying. So anyone who sends me something encrypted, it's as safe as can be. And next step, I'm gonna encrypt my hard drive. Which I'm very worried about, but okay, we'll just have to go for it.

2:14:52 It shouldn't be too hard. No, no, but if it messes up it's bad Well back everything up and run it drive crypt is the program everyone uses. Okay. Oh, they took a couple of the Methods off which kind of noise it's kind of annoying. All right. All right, everybody. We will be back Thursday Thanksgiving morning and as usual coming to you from the chemtrail hilltop watchtower crackpot command center give my nation west i'm adam curry and from uh... the buzzkill bunker here in northern silicon valley where there was thunder and lightning and john c dvorak will be back here on thursday on no agenda