30:48 There's just a short but concise little dig at Obama regarding all this crap that was going on in Iraq and apparently is still going on there. Portrayal of what happened in Iraq that has been revealed by this release So these two countries do not stand in isolation These are both modern Western wars and the lessons of Iraq, which are ongoing. Remember this material covers significant abuses occurring during the first year of the Obama administration can be applied to Afghanistan and can be applied to other places that Western governments may choose in isolation or in coalition to invade
31:48 Yeah, so I think you're right if our assertion about a war between Obama and the CIA which really started when he put that whole middle layer of Secret Service in between everybody so the CIA no longer really reports directly to the president And they put that who they put in the middle there. That's not bad is it? Well No, no, but as ahead of this yeah They put that with a guy they put in it was like I think they're on their third guy Well yeah, I think it's because they keep putting laxatives in his coffee. Like dude i don't want this gig anymore. Hey buddy you're on the pottle lot there maybe you should quit this job he is not going over for ya So it would make a lot of sense and Julia Assange who has actually gone from kind like a sweater wearing vigilante
32:37 To a suit and tie wearing spokesperson for this organization Let me play you a little bit of the CNN clip I'll fast forward at a certain point to where he walks out because the reporter almost immediately starts saying so You know one of your guys left You know, left the organization is their dissent in the ranks amongst WikiLeaks. Nobody ever quits an organization that's what he... There have been a lot of reports of internal there have been internal disputes within Wikileaks And by the way, very interesting the way this interview was set up. The interviewer is either off mic or poorly mic'd at a certain point you hear like mic interference It doesn't make a lot of sense because the video that goes along with it seems to be the broadcast cut multi-camera hotel room type setup Several people have volunteers have quit Where do you get your sources from?
33:36 Former staffers from... And did you speak to them? Yes I did. Can you hear that? Is it audible for you? Yeah, he said did you speak to him and she said yes she did and uh... yeah i think the better line would have been oh i got a from wiki-wikileaks. I got it from Mrs Wiki. I got from Wikileaks Wikileaks Well im not going to say which ones but This is interesting Im not gonna tell you which one and then a minute later she says exactly for who People have said that they've quit Because there's only one former staffer who was suspended How do you get suspended from an organization like WikiLeaks? They have like a they have like an office of the CEO or something and I thought these guys were like, you know Like distributed had their servers in Sweden or whatever. You know have been suspended Islam Well that former staffer Daniel Donald say bird
34:39 I'm not gonna tell you who it is. Danielle some say schnerd. issue that your personality seems to be eclipsing. Do you extend the work of Wikileaks? I'm wondering how you can respond to that. This is just not a very interesting issue. Wait, wait! Why doesn't he tell like it is?! He said my personality's eclipsing what personality!? The dishrag... I got no personality just take a look! We're an organization and organizations has employees
35:20 They have employees now. Wow! An organization, an organization has employees... This is fascinating stuff! This brings us right back to they're funded by somebody who might that be? Yeah well... Organization and organization has employees and when the employee misbehaves they get suspended It sounds like a multinational to me It's like a case of the bum trade Schmidt and some employees when they get suspended are not happy about this invention. But this criticism that you know, that the story around you is eclipsing the work of Wikileaks
36:01 does that concern you? Would you consider stepping aside? This organization does not let anyone hang out to dry. We always expect tremendous criticism It is my role, to be the lightning rod to attract... He's the lightning rod There you go. It's his role, now at least we know what he is doing He is the lightning rod That's an advanced organization that has this sort of structure This isn't like a bunch of amateurs That's what I thought they were, I thought they were just vigilantes Apparently you are fooled In fact you never though that You're one who came up with it One or two of us came up with CIA fraud I'm being facetious John So anyway The whole thing is sketchy and fishy
36:49 You know, it's a part of this battle going on and we just... well we don't understand the mechanism or what the real target is. We could be stooges, the two of us You and I. Dupes, we could be dupes! We could totally duped And you know we're missing the point here but the fact is something is amiss and these people that are taking it also serious oh this person should be hung for treason It's just like those are... all its doing is bringing out this negative The public generally speaking doesn't like this guy they don't like the WikiLeaks They don't like the fact that were putting our troops at risk
37:27 and all bomb on meanwhile i don't think ellsberg was uh... actually necessarily prompted uh... it by the crew up there to mention the fact that all bombers trying to create a state secret act state secrets act which will be approved once the they put in one more democrat liberal unusual type of liberal justice in who would approve it and so we'll end up with a state secrets act in this country why not nothing's been turned back the Patriot Act is still in full force, Obama's done nothing for civil liberties at all. They still have little freedoms set you know a little free speech segments where you get fenced in and at a political rally where you can't even have any free speech none of this has changed now it's going to worsen with an act state secrets act so everything's a secret which just isn't turning us into a pure police state
38:22 Yeah, what's interesting though is as we're discussing this topic I look at the chat room and people are like oh this is boring. I don't care but I think they're missing the point. I think what you just said there is the salient point Is that uh...this is probably even The whole setup is to get state secrets Assigned and legal so that we just can't know anything yeah And if somebody brings out they get thrown in a slammer for life Let's uh... Yeah, let's do something crazy John. Let's just go completely out of order here. All aboard! Train is good, plane is bad! Woohoo! Hilton Nolten did a real good one and I just couldn't pass it by because it was so awesome