Episode 238 · Sunday, 26 September 2010

Hawaii-Five-Blows

A deep dive into the normalization of tracking technology through television procedurals, the consolidation of the American dairy industry, and the geopolitical chess match in Pakistan.

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About this episode

Law and Order: SVU and the Virginia Department of Health lead a wave of predictive programming as television dramas and state agencies normalize subcutaneous tracking. The NBC procedural recently depicted a future where flu shots serve as a delivery mechanism for GPS-enabled computer chips, while Virginia officials aggressively push 160 million vaccine doses that critics claim are rebranded swine flu stockpiles nearing expiration.

Global surveillance expands as the UK government proposes direct paycheck diversion to Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs and offers tax rebates for citizens acting as Special Constable block nazis. In the United States, the TSA faces legal action in Philadelphia over illegal wallet searches, while Chrysler workers in Detroit are caught consuming alcohol and marijuana on lunch breaks following federal bailouts. Meanwhile, Dean Foods continues its monopolistic acquisition of local dairies like Berkeley Farms, and the United Nations appoints Mazlan Othman to lead the Office for Outer Space Affairs as a primary contact for extraterrestrial life.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down the technical shift to iPad-based broadcasting and the rise of the Million Dollar Wall. The hosts also dissect the poor cinematography of the Hawaii Five-O reboot and the bizarre phenomenon of human feet washing ashore in Tennessee and the United Kingdom.


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CHAPTER 01 / 32 Discussion

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak Introduce Episode 238

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 238 of the No Agenda show from their respective locations in Southern California and Silicon Valley. Curry describes his new minimalist broadcasting setup, which utilizes an iPad for MIDI control, jingles, and tracks, replacing his previous external hardware box.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· ipad· midi control· hilltop watchtower

00:00 Flat chested women in their 20s and 30's and 40s or 50s are kitty porn. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday September 26th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 238 This is no agenda Preparing for the zombie invasion here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California. In The Morning I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley I am John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill! Oh yeah you try to get me boy? I don't think so sucker! You're in a funny mood today...I was right on the ball wasn't I

00:45 You have new gear. Yeah, that's... I'm so happy! I have new gear you knew about it and you tried to nail me with it and nooooooo! Noohohoo! I love it. I didn't try to nail you with it. Totally tried. You tried to screw me over man So tell me what you got going there that you guys are all giddy? Umm..so now I've minimized my set once again so I no longer have external umm You know that external MIDI control I had, that little six... The little box. Yeah the little box so now it's all on the iPad and so including the jingles including all the tracks everything is all set up and its bound to screw up sometime during the show Oh yeah Anyway in the morning to you John and all ships at sea

CHAPTER 02 / 32 Discussion

Universal Studios Halloween Horror Nights and the Igor Awards

A visit to Universal Studios for the Igor Awards, hosted by Corey Feldman, is described as a low-tech but entertaining experience. The event coincided with the opening of Halloween Horror Nights, featuring actors dressed as zombies and various themed mazes like the Chucky and Friday the 13th attractions. Observations are made regarding the "zombified" nature of the general public waiting in long lines at the theme park.

universal studios· igor awards· eli roth· corey feldman· halloween horror nights· zombies

01:35 In the morning to all these slaves out there. We don't say that like that! In morning, to all the human resources in the chatroom at noahjennchat.net All charged up and ready to go The way your government loves you That's how we say it So I had a great experience Friday night Threesome? No, that was Thursday night Friday night Mickey and Christina and I were invited To Universal Studios The theme park here, which is just a stone's throw from the crackpot command center for the I gore awards and the Igor Awards honors actors and directors in The horror film genre ie ye. I Gore Which by the way is it's a pretty poor award show Whenever Corey Feldman is hosting something you know It's gonna kind of suck

02:38 But of course it was nice because our buddy Eli Roth received an award. But the cool thing was, and this is why these awards take place at that particular moment... Bye babe! Break a leg? This was the opening of Halloween Nights in the theme park so the entire theme park is all Halloween based And they have hundreds and hundreds of actors walking throughout the theme park Although all kind of in different getup pretty much all zombified and they've got like, you know Chainsaws and knives and weird shit and they jump out at you. And then they have these mazes Until the have that the Chuckie maze you've got the Friday 13th maze You've got Rob zombie a creator maze and what's really nice about it is

03:31 It's very low-tech. I mean literally, it is like the stuff you might have built for Halloween at high school where you walk through corridors and then there are weird rooms with weird stuff going on but then people jump out at you continuously and it's real actors except they're in complete getup. Unbelievably amazing how much fun it was for a low tech experience However walking through Universal Studios even though we had a guide You know stand in line like 45 minutes for each maze Boy is the American populace here zombified or what dude?

04:12 There's just thousands of people going, uh... Dude! Dude. It was- that was really You've been hanging out in Hollywood too much. It was outrageous They were all just complete zombies Yes I will walk here now I will stand in line this is good oh I got scared That was the scariest part it was walking amongst regular people Well for you That's the regular population down in Southern California. Yeah, but anyway it once again solidified my belief that The zombies are coming so did you get this news story somebody and somebody said I think both of us which I had to bring up right away because it cracked me up when I saw it which was a report out of the Gitmo Nation UK

CHAPTER 03 / 32 Discussion

Flu Vaccine Marketing and Swine Flu Stockpiles

Reports from the UK suggest that flu shots may lower the risk of heart attacks, a claim met with skepticism. In the United States, the Virginia Department of Health is actively promoting the availability of 160 million vaccine doses, which arrived earlier than usual. There is speculation that these doses include leftover swine flu vaccine components that need to be distributed before their shelf life expires.

flu shot· heart attack· swine flu· virginia department of health· vaccine· pio

05:06 Whatever we call it. Mm-hmm about how flu shots lower the risk of heart attack No, I didn't see this Really It lowers your risk you're gonna live longer because you're not gonna have a hard attack Next we're gonna have it, you know makes it more attractive to women once you just cut to the chase That would be good wouldn't it? Do you want to get laid take this flu shot. It'll works guaranteed Wow No I didn't see that one There's a there's a lot of flu stories out there We can almost re-invoke the the flying this or the flying swoo the Swine Flu minute

05:51 Yeah, I know. Well you know they still have all this leftover stuff and it probably has a two year shelf life They have like 160 million doses in the United States alone that they have to get rid of and they're putting it into the regular flu vaccine and actually I had a thing about that here it is This is from... The single flu shot is getting the public leery Really? I think the public is listening to this show and they're leery. Here it is, yeah Robert Parker Public Informant Information Officer that's a PIO with the Virginia Department of Health promoted for the vaccine saying remember that up to 160 million doses will be available nationally this year and its and it has arrived and it's available earlier than usual so now is a really good time to get vaccinated. Yeah that's another thing that gets me It's early How did that happen

CHAPTER 04 / 32 Discussion

Law and Order SVU Depicts Subcutaneous Computer Chips

The season premiere of Law and Order: Special Victims Unit features a plotline involving a young girl who believes she was injected with a computer chip via a flu shot. The episode includes a scene where a scientist explains that while current chips only carry a 16-digit ID number, future versions will include GPS tracking for children, the elderly, and immigrants. This is characterized as predictive programming for a "New World Order" surveillance state.

law and order svu· dick wolf· rfid· computer chip· gps· new world order

06:52 So while we're at, before we go to crediting our executive producers today. We might as well play since were talking about the flu shot Might as well play this clip low SVU chip one Okie dokie here we go Hi you're noted are you okay? I can't talk she's listening No she is not She is with Ms White and you need to tell me what they are doing to you because if your in danger ill take you out of her no matter where I go shes will find We can't see we're not gonna let her now you said in your note that they put something inside of you What was it? a computer chip

07:38 Wait, is this a recent episode of specials? This is the new season first episode. First right off the bat there's straight into the chips. We go right into it. That was great. Mackenzie It has all my information on it. It knows everywhere I go that's how they found me yesterday. Okay, I can't hide! They didn't find you we did And there's no computer chip inside you. There is! Look... Wait, let me guess She got it from a flu shot? Is that how they injected it into her am I guessing am I guessing right yes and No okay Looks like he got a shot. What?! He's in the shot

08:20 That's how Dr. Zedok put it in Look, there is nothing in your arm They probably told you that so you would behave No! Okay I'm not lying It's for real Please just feel it It's dying What is that? I told you A computer chip Who produces this again? Is this a big wolf production is it dig wolf great the guy has no shame. This is awesome The second half of that clip at first I just have to say I kind of like the idea of they're just telling you that to make you behave That's just as good isn't it just to say that they're shooting a chip India

09:10 even if they haven't just to get you to behave. The entire show was extremely sinister fantastic I mean they took it way over the top, these guys have to compete with these boneheads doing things like Hawaii Five-O Oh no we'll get to that one later please don't torture me with it. Let's first thank a few people Yes, let's thank a few people. Please we only have to thank two according I know i'm looking at like wow shitty week Did we suck on the last? We must have sucked on the last show he must've stunk yeah uh, so we got uh one executive producer and one associate and The executive producer from eindhoven netherlands is pronounced. I would say teaser Barrel but this is not a dutch name no teaser

CHAPTER 05 / 32 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and SimBid System Administration

Thijs Barel from Eindhoven and Mitch Bidron are credited as executive producers for their financial support of the show. Bidron, who recently launched a system administration company called SimBid.com, contributed despite personal challenges involving his wife's long-term health issues. The hosts discuss the "value for value" model and the importance of sysadmins in the current technological landscape.

thijs barel· mitch bidron· simbid· value for value· eindhoven· sysadmin

10:06 Bell is apparently well, it's T IES e. It's not ties Is it pronounced I there's a pronunciation pronunciation guy for Adam you would ties In the Netherlands John good luck hmm tice oh I get it so this is just pronounce Oh, I get it This is phonetic phonetic spelling for you got it its tice tease now as you want Yeah ties cheese Okay, all right ties. Thank you very much Tice get my nation lowlands after listening for so quite some time I thought it would be time to stop being a douchebag and provide some value for value I enjoyed the show very much has become part of my weekly routine should be at twice Lee week twicely weekly

10:52 Although there is a hole in my week on Tuesdays, it helps to keep me critical towards events. The reason I'm having trouble reading this because I have to have the mic over here so it doesn't feed back and the sun is blinding me! The sun's hitting me in the head... I don't believe everything you guys say and inform Adam that I am a folder For a long time on the Daily Source Code we had the scruncher folder issue. So he's a folder good good didn't admit this isn't this Mitch Bidron who yes, yes This is Mitch bid Ron your credit recrediting him for executive produce because you Misspelled his name on there on your on your Yeah, yeah that was I completely screwed that up

11:46 Absolutely. Mitch Bidron, and this is not just a recredit he sent another $200. Oh he did? Yeah guys Mitch Brown really I do understand that it's challenging dealing with the contributions you're getting but perhaps it's time for a new system for all I know the karma that I was hoping for from my wife Jill has screwed up Way to stick the knife in, Mitch. Also one of your biggest claims that this is an official credit well good for Mitch Brown whoever the hell that is because I miss it. That was only posted for about three or four hours It wasn't all that bad actually he... Because I caught it immediately and it wasn't a matter of the system it was just a matter of uh..I don't know why you put brown on You know I think it might have been an automatic spell checker thing or something cause' it makes no sense why would I do that because I'm reading along with the spreadsheet but anyway

12:34 He did email me again and he says, dude quick apology with a wife being sick you know as human resource has been sick for 18 months. He says I just like...I was little crazy didn't mean to fly off the handle there. I would have too! And actually yeah he says that her issue is severe headaches for eighteen months. I'm thinking maybe we could help or something? How about getting a different doctor? How about getting a different husband Yeah, is this the excuse she's giving you Mitch? I got a severe headache. No, I think a different doctor perhaps and you might want to try medical marijuana seriously It could be completely stress-related they think it was a pinched nerve or something But I can't believe that for 18 months You can't get a doctor to diagnose this thing This is weird anyway he also wanted to promote his

13:31 His company that is, I guess it's a small one guy shop that he started up. SimBid.com S-I-M B-I-D Which is sysadmin stuff. Ooh! Okay You have a lot of sysadmin guys Well yeah they're the ones who are going to save us and they're the ones who are switched on They know what's going on in Gitmo So we want to thank them both for supporting this show Hopefully Mitch will have a turn of lucky streak. Some good luck, yeah. We're certainly hoping for some karma coming. More ways than one I got a couple of PR things There's a brand new website John that is noagendacountdown.com which is kind of cool and what it does if you take a look at it It actually shows you the number of hours until the next show

CHAPTER 06 / 32 Discussion

No Agenda Countdown and The Million Dollar Wall

New community-driven websites are highlighted, including a countdown clock that automatically refreshes to the live stream when the show begins. Another project, NoAgendaWall.com, created by the individual behind Vajazzling.com, attempts to raise $10,000 by selling ad pixels for $1 each, with half the proceeds intended for the podcast.

noagendacountdown.com· noagendawall.com· james· vajazzling.com· crowdfunding

14:29 hours, minutes seconds and then so you can basically this is for people who don't have an iPhone in the pocket no agenda iPhone app and they get the bat signal. So you can basically just leave this open in a browser somewhere And so the clock, it's beautifully done. If you look at well actually you can't look at it now because it forwards to Noah... You'll see for a second because the idea is when the show then goes live when it hits zero Then that page refreshes automatically and brings up noagendastream.com kind of like a very low-tech Alarm clock radio if you will but I thought it was nice It was pretty good Pretty good little effort there So you can find that at NoAgenda

15:10 Was it no agenda countdown calm then we have? Let me see It works. Yeah, I know it works our friend who did the jazz ling comm is back and What's his name again his name is James so here's my latest creation I did something like this back in 2005 and raised over five ten to ten thousand dollars And got a mention the Wall Street Journal not sure if it's gonna happen again But it's worth a shot let me know He has set up noagendawall.com I didn't know that this was the guy who had done that back in the day, so there's a wall It has 10 thousand squares and you can buy his square for $1 So if you want to put it...so yeah, I think he see little Big app show logo in there which I think takes up four squares And what else is here trainsgoodplanesbad.com is taking up some two for six squares

16:06 There's a little, oh Dvorak.org slash blog has one square you cheapskate So that yes I guess there is like a... It's cool though and but what i like the most is the FAQ What does this site about? The idea is simple to raise $10,000 by selling 10,000 ad blocks for 1 dollar each Half of the money will be donated to Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak no agenda show And half will go to me to run the site and buy hookers and blow Seems like a reasonable split. I think it's very reasonable! Is James one of the many fans in the agenda? Yeah, Vajazzling.com So it is cool and it worked before so who knows if could work again and certainly appreciate that

CHAPTER 07 / 32 Discussion

X-Radio Texas and Podcast Propagation Efforts

X-Radio 91.1 FM in Marble Falls, Texas, is noted for running promos for the No Agenda show using an automated computer voice. The hosts encourage listeners to propagate the show's "formula" and discuss the status of custom rings for the show's "knighthood" produced by Sir Paul Couture.

x-radio· marble falls· texas· clear act· automated radio· knighthood

16:52 and uh... then i got no we're talking about x radio are we keeping all these links as uh... someplace here they're all in the links that rock section of the show and at the late that the newest links come into the top i've been doing that for a tunnel two years thanks for checking it out now check it out but i always get the few is a couple leaveout uh... not know if anything we leave some of them into long but once it has since perished But I do purge it from time to time. Now we put it all in, everything should be pretty current if not check it out let me know send me an email happy to fix it xradio.com is a...I guess either low-powered FM or a pirate station I'm hoping the latter and It broadcasts in the Lake LBJ area near Marble Falls Texas in Texas Hill Country

17:48 And they put up a... They have a promo running now for the show. Oh, good! Which is yeah it's a little piece of us talking about the CLEAR Act I'll just play the last 15 seconds so you can kind of hear how uh It's an automated station which has a computerized voice Why don't we just give them the whole country? Like we haven't?! It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! No agenda. 9am until 11am, Monday and Friday mornings on X-Radio 91.1 FM Cool We need to be on more stations like that

18:27 I dig it. And whatever happened to your robot voice you used to have on the stream? Well, Twitter became pretty unpredictable with how they do stuff and I kind of gave up You know, I could try and re-invoke it because I really liked it but also people were hacking So basically it would listen to tweets on a certain Twitter address People would send in like number strings that were 5,000 digits just to hear the voice struggle over speaking all the digits. Yeah There you go there's the problem with dealing with the public yeah I had to can you build in filters and then it was like yeah? I'm like now. I just got really really tired of it so figured screw it another good idea goes down the drain on the drain kids out there who are vandals

19:18 Damn them kids. All right, Thijs Barel or Barrel or Barl? It's probably that, Thijs Barel! Hey, Thijs here, Thijs Barle! That's how we'd say it in Amsterdam You are this week's or this episodes executive producer episode 238 of the no agenda show and Mitch bid Ron Associate executive producer both of you now have an official credit I guess Mitch. You have two credits to your name Now make sure you add that to your IMDb profile Or certainly to email signature, and we appreciate everyone who donates at Dvorak org slash

19:55 And a all the rusty out there. Well, we've got a formula we need you to go out We need you to propagate it loud and proud Our formula is this we go out we hit people in the mouth All right So we can, uh... and yeah, dvork.org slash any help us out We didn't do that well this week would appreciate it No we didn't because I guess we suck last night. Become a knight! That's my motto Yeah how are the rings? Have you spoken to Sir Paul Couture on one of the rings? No I haven't, I gotta send him an email cuz I think I have to send him some money so he can get the thing finished Oh hello?! I mean we've been saving- No no but he hasn't told me he hasn't given me a solid number i cant just sent him ya know with blank check

CHAPTER 08 / 32 Discussion

RFID Tracking in Schools and Media Subtext

The discussion returns to the implications of RFID tracking, noting that some California schools have implemented chips in backpacks and clothing, as well as fingerprinting for lunch programs. The subtext of television dramas is analyzed, suggesting they subconsciously sell the "value" of tracking technology to the public by framing it as a solution to child abductions.

rfid· california schools· fingerprints· surveillance· predictive programming

20:55 Do we even have night- We don't even have knighthoods today, do we? No. Ugh... Okay. Well great! I guess you really sucked on the last show. Play the second part of that clip Oh uh.. The SUV clip? The little girl's gotten a shot Yeah And she got a computer chip in her and she's freaked Okay here we go So now they take Sorry I'm sorry They take the little girl to a- Now ya bum bum and they're going into some other place and now their in a lab Is that my cue? Yeah, it was. Okay... We're in the lab! AAH! Dick Wolf helping people actually understand the acronym this is so good thanks dick So the Burtons can track every single move their daughter makes Not yet

21:50 in the future chips will be equipped with GPS but for now they simply carry a 16 digit number unique to each client so why would the Burtons freak their kid out now if they can't even put her under surveillance yet? To save her life. If she were ever in an accident, the hospital could scan the implant and retrieve valuable medical information So could any third-rate hacker Uncle Sam for that matter How much Belzer... Belzer plays the the insane public skeptic. Yeah, I like it and he has always been in that's the way it comes to this where I think it plays out with the people who watch these shows which is that there's a reasonable scientist in the lab wearing a reasonable outfit explaining things reasonably and then Belzer represents the crackpot

22:37 fringe who throws these little nuggets in every once in a while but it's like, eh, typical. Yeah he looks like a kook. Typical, typical kook. Private information can you put in these chips? The applications are unlimited and the future will be able to track children the elderly criminals immigrants welcome to the new world order just so you know nobody forced McKenzie into this I don't do any implantations on children without their consent Wow.

23:35 It just gets worse. Wow The show is it was a jaw-dropper? Oh my goodness, of course on the heels of kids actually being chipped although not implanted but at you know schools in California putting RFID tracking chips into the kids backpacks and Clothes yeah clothes and then taking their fingerprints to make sure they have the right lunch I mean this is good stuff It's getting wacky The more subtle message was that the this whole thing was about some missing girl And then this girl was adopted and she was made to look like the missing girl because the mom was you know

24:13 was not so right one of the this is the perfect to the perfect reason to get your kid shipped of course i know that the real the real subtlety here in this part that is if you'd really tell the story apart and take a look deeper is that they did find the original daughter who had been abducted as says somebody had suggested earlier but the cops paid no attention to what the parents said and then they found her ten years later after she was forced into a marriage with some weird hillbilly at the age of ten and kept like caged up, and then they finally found her at the end. Obviously if she was chipped this would have never happened! Of course not

24:52 It's just preparing everybody mentally, that what it is about. The way they do it though, so its really very unique, not unique but very subtle and you have the Belzer character so nobody looks like your just being brainwashing, he doesn't look like your sitting out there brainwashing the public So we have the Belzer character, hes the only one by the way who does that once in a while somebody else will say something but its rare and there but the real underlying messages of this other girl was finally found by a lot of hard police work would have been what this week at that it's just in the subconscious cuz never said nobody ever says that they just have this one little section about that are fighting chip in the scientists blabbering on about how many all those are kinds of cool applications has cooled and then we'll be able to as though when the story finishes you have a you can add i think within the brain you have kids mixed message and so far is how valuable rfid might be

CHAPTER 09 / 32 Discussion

Anecdote Regarding a Beer-Buying Dog

A humorous anecdote is shared about a man who trained his dog to buy six-packs of beer from a local store. The story concludes with the dog failing to return after being given a twenty-dollar bill, only to be found with a poodle, claiming he never had the money to pursue such interests before.

dog· beer· poodle· anecdote· humor

25:43 Well, I kind of like the dog message the best because if your dog is chipped then you're chipped. Whenever your dog is, you're going to be unless you've taken one those doggie hotels when you are out but people usually take their dogs along for most things so... You are already kind of chipped Yeah Anyway So what else is new? This guy has a dog that can go and get beer And so every couple of weeks he gives the dog $2.00 and the dog goes and buys a six pack for two dollars and brings it back, and one day he doesn't have the two dollars in exact change so he gives the dog a twenty

26:27 and the dog goes out, and he doesn't come back. And the guy goes out and finds him humping a small little poodle who's got 20 bucks in her mouth, and the guy says what? You've never done this before! The dog says I've never had the money! Let me give you one. You really don't deserve it for that. I'm just having to be rereading the Legman books speaking of Of the demon drink did you see this report on? On YouTube is from some local Fox station in Detroit Where they they camped out outside the GM plant and they watched all the workers on their lunch break at 1130

CHAPTER 10 / 32 Discussion

Chrysler Workers Caught Drinking and Smoking on Lunch Break

A Fox News investigative report from Detroit captured Chrysler assembly line workers consuming large quantities of beer and smoking marijuana during their 30-minute lunch breaks at a local park. The reporter, Jeff Vaughn, confronted the workers about their behavior following the government bailout of the automotive industry. The hosts reflect on the monotony of assembly line work as a potential driver for such behavior.

chrysler· detroit· fox news· jeff vaughn· gm· assembly line

27:09 Leave go to the the mini-mart they all get like you know like Half gallon bottles of beer and they and they down these in the next 15 minutes. They're all drinking them in the park smoking weed Go back and finish our cars Right yeah I don't want to the cars are crappy. I didn't uh, I didn't get the whole I mean the whole clip is kind of stupid I can certainly play a little bit of it if you want but so then the guy ambushes him It's like these poor smush mucks You know they're on the assembly line ten hours a day You know what? Of course if you just you know tighten in some bolts and stuff means you gotta get hammered How else can you handle it?

27:51 And then he's like, he's gonna go follow them. He say hey building a good cars today slave I'll leave it listen to a little bit here Turned up yeah Hold on days after President Obama's visit day after day hitting up the party store then hitting the public part pound beers Oh and did I mention a little smoking? hold on a second Of course now, I promised you it would get all screwed up. You didn't take me let's see we're hungry we're in 20 minutes into the show here We go Starts at 6 a.m.. At 11 There's a half-hour lunch break the partiers have just enough time to head up to the liquor store Drive about a mile to the park Consume for 10 minutes and get back to the plant in time to work the last three hours of their shifts

28:47 Tuesday, September 14th 10 57 a.m.. Here's our crew out for break Now at the party store 1107 hitting the coolers for some liquid refreshment These guys are team players. Check out this handoff He takes that quart of beer and adds a king can as he waits in the checkout lot This guy's got his hands full too Looks like he was buying one for his buddy in the minivan They're literally drinking here with you know, with the bottles and paper bags in the park Bash it 1111 A minute later, here comes the big brew crew. These guys never missed a day we were watching. Last but not least these guys show up at 1115 they brought their ray game this dude takes it hit

29:40 Takes a swig another drag Passing the doobie back and forth let me just go to the part where he busts him. That's the funniest It's like hey, you build any good cause day after day what plant was this it's the Detroit let me see if it says What company are we talking about GM? Yeah, GM. Yeah day We went to the park during lunch people were there partying Finally last Friday. We'd seen enough hey guys Hate to be a buzzkill, but shouldn't you guys be building cars? Buzzkill! Don't you guys work out at the Chrysler factory? Chrysler. You know... The government spent a lot of money bailing you guys out and you're coming out here on your lunch break drinking like this?! They're taking off. Where are you going man!? You gonna go build some car now? Maybe add a few beers? They all take-off Is it the funniest thing

30:43 Like of course the drinking nuts. What do you expect? I worked on an assembly line and a couple of different places Yeah, so he got a clue and realized that you want to be an inspector yeah much better than being a bolt tightener It's a bit it sits it's boring So I can see these guys getting hammered, but I don't remember ever being allowed to get off the facility during you know at any...you know when you had a break it wasn't that you could go wandering around town. Doesn't make any sense so talking about bad reporting or good reporting in that case or bad reporting in some way. We're having hot weather here in this area? Yes sir we had 105 yesterday Okay well that's hot

CHAPTER 11 / 32 Discussion

Castro Valley Blackout and Local News Sensationalism

A local news report on a power outage in Castro Valley is criticized for its breathless and sensationalist tone. The reporter interviewed residents, including a child, who described the "creepy" experience of the lights going out during a heatwave. The outage, which affected 34,000 people, was attributed by PG&E to equipment failure caused by high temperatures.

castro valley· pg&e· blackout· kimberly· cnbc· heat wave

31:30 uh... so there was a so they have this woman on no one of the local stations who uh... it's at cnbc affiliate who are first of all she's eight and i want to say anything disparaging but do you ever watch the family guy in this within this this kind of food for reporter trish and talking now a mhm asian or asian chick yes he is in check and chris tend to shut up an hour the asian reporter yeah And well this is, I found out who she has to be modeled after this woman who's been floating around. This woman is uh... She gave a report on a blackout in Castro Valley where the power went out for few hours and as though it was once-in-a-lifetime situation that never happens and she went from person to person starting with a little kid

32:24 in her interviews, who said oh the power went out it was unbelievable that it got dark. And she is like breathless during this whole thing as though this is a real news report I have it on here and want to play it but with the weird thing every time I mention this somebody always writes well you know you shouldn't be Yeah, don't be big. She's cross-eyed okay? Let's just put it straight out there Wait she's Asian and cross eyed two strikes! Not a little crossed not like that you know not a little I know who you're talking about i have seen her Yeah, well she's in it. She's in the Bay Area now apparently anyway It is that we would be able to hear that she's cross-eyed in this clip That do I had to point it out But but you can hear what a stupid report This is as though power going out there some horrible thing and but any play power goes out Store Valley where the power is back on Kimberly take it away This is normally what Castor Valley Boulevard looks like on a Saturday night a fair amount of traffic moving easily but a couple of hours

33:25 of hours ago, a very different story. Chaotic to say the least as drivers tried to navigate this busy stretch of road during the blackout Lights are back on in Castro Valley after a power outage this evening that affected more than 34,000 residents. Not just here but in Hayward as well I was watching the movie in my room and then it just started to play and then it shut off completely It was sort of creepy because later in the day it starts to get like pitch black everywhere A PG&E spokesperson says a heat related equipment failure at their Castro Valley substation caused the blackout Is this the start of rolling blackouts? Is that what we're getting now, John? No. It was just a blackout because too many people had their air conditioners out so it blew something up Whatever the case was it was kind of like news Like a big deal this blackout and she's interviewing one person after another with comments like Yeah! It was weird cause it was dark I liked when the kid is like...I was watching a movie and then it just stopped What's up with that?!

34:27 These are the people who were at Universal Studios, okay? I'm telling you. These are the people that are walking around. It was one interview with one person after another who were so stupid... They got dark man! ...that they were befuddled by this situation as if this doesn't happen once in a while. Well the problem is that Pacific Gas and Electric didn't have time to put together the PR release so they could just fill in the blanks and normally that's how news is created And they didn't have time for that. Oh shit, I gotta go report now. Hold on a second John, I think we should actually do this. So there is some real news that crosses over into our realm The first one of course would be Lilo Lindsey Lohan failing her drug test and uh... I think uhh..I think this is headed towards Gitmo Jewelry

CHAPTER 12 / 32 Discussion

Lindsay Lohan Heroin Allegations and Celebrity Surveillance

Photos surfaced on X17online.com allegedly showing Lindsay Lohan using heroin and socializing with Paris Hilton. The hosts discuss the rapid legal escalation Lohan has faced, including the use of SCRAM ankle bracelets that monitor perspiration for alcohol consumption. There is speculation regarding the funding of paparazzi sites and whether celebrity downfalls are used to normalize government monitoring of individuals.

lindsay lohan· heroin· x17online· paris hilton· ankle bracelet· paparazzi

33:25 of hours ago, a very different story. Chaotic to say the least as drivers tried to navigate this busy stretch of road during the blackout Lights are back on in Castro Valley after a power outage this evening that affected more than 34,000 residents. Not just here but in Hayward as well I was watching the movie in my room and then it just started to play and then it shut off completely It was sort of creepy because later in the day it starts to get like pitch black everywhere A PG&E spokesperson says a heat related equipment failure at their Castro Valley substation caused the blackout Is this the start of rolling blackouts? Is that what we're getting now, John? No. It was just a blackout because too many people had their air conditioners out so it blew something up Whatever the case was it was kind of like news Like a big deal this blackout and she's interviewing one person after another with comments like Yeah! It was weird cause it was dark I liked when the kid is like...I was watching a movie and then it just stopped What's up with that?!

34:27 These are the people who were at Universal Studios, okay? I'm telling you. These are the people that are walking around. It was one interview with one person after another who were so stupid... They got dark man! ...that they were befuddled by this situation as if this doesn't happen once in a while. Well the problem is that Pacific Gas and Electric didn't have time to put together the PR release so they could just fill in the blanks and normally that's how news is created And they didn't have time for that. Oh shit, I gotta go report now. Hold on a second John, I think we should actually do this. So there is some real news that crosses over into our realm The first one of course would be Lilo Lindsey Lohan failing her drug test and uh... I think uhh..I think this is headed towards Gitmo Jewelry

35:23 It- it don't... Yeah? Yeah. It already is! Well, no I mean so first of all she put up like what $300,000 bail? Yeah so she could get out. So you get out right and but do you know what drug she was doing though John? Do you know why she failed? Ah this...I do not know Okay well there's pictures on the News Of The World website and in their Fine Sunday publication Pictures of Lindsay Lohan shooting up heroin Really? Oh yeah, oh yes. Pictures of her shooting up heroin and I might add making it... That has not been promoted on this side of the ocean Well i'm promoting it here and making out with Paris Hilton I might add Ooh! What's the website? Let me send you the link my friend Here it comes Well they're tongue kissing

36:18 It's hot. Oh yeah, it's totally hot. Yeah look at it! They are intimate they're very intimate and she's got the syringe and she's you know tourniquet around her arm although I think she has it in the wrong place It looks like it doesn't even... No, that's her. That's her for sure! Let me throw this into the chat room so they can enjoy it. These are the worst photos Well they're from a cell phone clearly and they come from x17online.com That tells you what good cell phones are. Oh, the guy with my camera is 8 megapixels Yeah, these are cell phone cameras suck well these look sepia eyes if you know what I mean Looks like someone made him Sepia or something or maybe it's just they did it without a flash. Yeah You know come to think of it that blows how come we don't have good pictures? We've got like five or eight megapixels these days How can this suck so bad let's take a look at x17 online comm have you looked at that yet X 17

37:18 I know on heroin. Well, that would be account for her an inability to get off of it well, so you won't tell ya but this of course is kind of interesting because we know that the US government is actually behind the heroin propagation and It's now they you know up where you go pick her up And by the way since when is it illegal to shoot up? Heroin Is that actually illegal? Is that a federal crime to shoot up heroin? It can't like possession is Yeah, but they didn't catch her with possession. She failed the drug. Well it's a gift to her. Just like the chip! I mean the whole thing is outrageous. X17 was like a TMZ from... Yeah TMZ. TMZ I mean from someplace else or maybe uh is this a British TMZ? I don't know. I think they're only online these guys

38:15 But they're good. It's funny how these stories break on these kind of obscure websites, so we have Mel Gibson and that broke on RadarOnline.com and now we have the Lindsay Lohan Pictures X17 online dot com where are these guys getting the money to get these exclusives? Yeah you tell me but this is this is the question right I mean who has all the money from dealing drugs Thank you, so it's got to be the CIA It's gotta someone someone has got to be funding these guys cuz he by the way You get good money for these photos except thousands of Dina Lohan brought drinks to Lindsay's apartment tonight before jail sentencing I'm telling you. You can't just get this stuff You can't afford it The paparazzi would would be able to sell it for a lot more money to other outfits

39:09 So that's suspicious. DWTS partner meets Mama Sarah, what's DWTS? Dancing with the Stars my friend. Oh dancing with the stars. Yeah, we're looking at the wrong websites. You shouldn't be watching TMZ and Eonline you'd be looking at these things X17 online calm hold on a second Let me do a little look up of this who the hell is behind this This is crazy Alex and I say really under Lindsay law she's like during her personal publicist Alexis Nye errs on Lindsay Lohan when you're making imbalanced choices there's going to be repercussions unquote Okay x 17 online

39:49 Care of network solutions. Okay, so there's no There's no So they've a hidden registration know somebody in the chat room can probably dig something up this should because this is such big business That I find it hard to believe that if so If you have pictures of Lindsay Lohan shooting up heroin John The first thing I do is I call you and I said bitch we're rich We We're going all the way baby. You know we'd be going to network news because I mean and what and these guys go to X 17 online calm that doesn't sound right so anyway it kind of gives more credence to the hypothesis that this is really just too

40:32 show how the slaves need to be treated and Because I mean how fast does this go she went from a DWI boom? She's got a gitmo nation ankle bracelet jewelry on and she's not allowed to drink which you know Not allowed to drink and drive. I understand not allowing to drink Okay People are settling for that You want to be a stupid slave and have the government tell you what you can put in your body in the privacy of your own home fine, And now when now it's heroin Don't you think that's kind of weird? It is really things really slide fast for some people But yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. A lot of people are saying oh, yes, she's gonna wind up dead She's gonna commit suicide I don't think so. I think she has to be really become the poster child I'm still waiting for the for the Vogue layout You know with her with her ankle bracelet on failed the drug test. Well, I agree There's definitely a scenario that at work here we uh, I don't know that we

41:31 fully understand what it might be because I mean obviously at some point the way these scenarios work is that you know all the government stuff that they do to her, you know They throw in jail. They put a bright bracelet on or they do this? They do that and then she comes out of it clean and becomes a spokesperson Telling people that they should do this or not Do that or whatever I am I just want to see the the heroin ankle bracelet That's all I care about. I want to see that and them then we'll know Well the whole thing could be a setup because maybe they've just developed one. I mean, the development of the braces that can tell you're been drinking has got to be high tech cause it's gotta be contact sensor of some sort of man. It's your perspiration.

CHAPTER 13 / 32 Discussion

Katy Perry Sesame Street Controversy and Michelle Obama Parody

Katy Perry's appearance on Sesame Street was reportedly pulled from the broadcast after parents complained about her outfit being too revealing for children. The hosts suggest the "leak" of the video was a calculated PR move for both Perry and the show. A Saturday Night Live parody featuring Michelle Obama and Big Bird is also mentioned.

katy perry· sesame street· elmo· michelle obama· saturday night live

42:13 Yeah, but it's got to have a small lab in there so it can determine that the perspiration has whatever... It's a little lab! So essentially a small micro laboratory and so do that with heroin would be huge breakthrough for these guys. I mean maybe its time to invest in this company. This BI, BI incorporated out of Colorado? Well they're private I think Anyway, so there was more interesting real news that I'd just like to call out. Which... and it's very obvious why this one hit the airwaves And this came through E! Online or E! Entertainment Television They're the ones that broke the story Katy Perry and Elmo banned from the airwaves

43:01 Yeah, this is a lot of free publicity for Katy Perry. And how about for the new season of Sesame Street? Please! It's so obvious alright. Apparently this video leaked onto YouTube. Yeah right okay... So they put it on YouTube themselves That's obvious and then based upon the comments on YouTube people were outraged at her jiggling boobs This is inappropriate for Sesame Street. They weren't jiggling they were sort of pumped up with a one of those bustiers or something that was so They weren't pumped up, they looked like nice healthy boobs! No she was wearing an uplifting thing. Well you saw some cleavage so what? She's not a big top woman... No but it was just nice boobs I think it was weird that she was dressed as a bride That was a little creepy But come on is like SO? It's just weird Just promoting Sesame Street And Katy Perry Did you see Michelle Obama on Sesame Street

44:06 You know I might have. I have a clip of her appearance with Big Bird and the vegetable crop or something like that. Well look who's here to push your husband socialist health care agenda! Or maybe you're here to finally show us your husbands United States birth certificate I'm not that's cuz you can't are you absolutely sure he wasn't born in Kenya. I'm sure big bird That's now what the basket bunch says I Hadn't actually seen that from Saturday Night Live, I liked it know who is playing who?

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Criticism of the Hawaii Five-O Reboot

The new Hawaii Five-O television series is criticized for its poor acting, dark lighting, and "jiggle cam" cinematography that causes motion sickness. One host expresses frustration with the show's loud background music and repetitive nature, while the other suggests the television frequencies themselves might be hypnotizing viewers into watching low-quality content.

hawaii five-o· jiggle cam· television· acting· audio levels

44:58 I don't know. It looked like Michelle. No, it was it was an actual Sesame Street scene except they just did the overdub on Big Bird and the and The vegetable okay? Yeah, but I thought it was pretty funny yeah, it's kind of amusing anyway So with that we will close out real news And now back to real news so you wanted to talk about Hawaii 5-0 Yes, I have before you do I do have a clip I don't really want to talk about it, but you said it really really sucks So I haven't I haven't watched any of this new season. Okay if you don't mind, I'm too busy watching C-SPAN Yeah well there's not that much on c-span Play the whoo this is the kind of acting by the way Hawaii five-oh also employs jiggle cam so you can get sick watching the show literally gets sick to your stomach they'd the cameras never still for more than a split second they

45:54 this moving it left and right and up-and-down in a wiggling it they're going to get down enough but not and under and its dark I don't have anyone out there's been to Hawaii who lies a bright bright place the sun shines down innovative added that angle that makes the place extremely well lit you think you were living in if you think this is like in New Jersey in the winter It's so dark in this show. But anyway, here is the kind of fine acting... They have a guy they want to recruit him back to the police force he was thrown out for corruption and these two clowns are going to bring him back just based on his word Take the money No And come with us We don't need to talk about this again

46:51 Ever. This is your ticket back into the game Call it payback, call it whatever you want I don't care but I need you How do you know that you can trust him? Because my old man did You know I can't believe that you have like an argument with me over playing the full Stephen Colbert clip on C-SPAN for five minutes You're like oh no its too long which we can deconstruct Let me let me let me You're making me listen to this crap! Im tired of this crap Here's another thing that bugs me about this show What? You can barely hear these guys because this music is like amped way too high.

47:31 It's just the worst show I can't stand. Yeah, but why watch it? Stop! You know... They keep playing it and I can't... We need an intervention on you John This is like the fourth week in a row where you're playing crap Okay go ahead with your little... Crap shows Your Hawaii Five-O complaint I have no complaint although I haven't watched it I don't watch that I'm not watching your television is hypnotizing you Do you understand this John listen to me What? It's the frequencies from the television are making you go back and watch this stuff, and I bet you're watching with at least one of your kids. No That's even worse! Are you- are you sitting in your underwear? I'm walking alone. Do you have your hand... I'm walking alone in my room. Do you have your hand in your pants when you're watching this, or are you just sitting there going uuuuhhhhhhhh The fact of the matter was these idiots showed it again Well stop And I've been slipping through the channels and they just caught this out of the blue The whole show is like this You have to stop this okay One more clip, I got one more Y5 opening Nooo

CHAPTER 15 / 32 Discussion

UK Special Constables and Direct Tax Collection Proposals

The British government is considering offering council tax rebates to citizens who volunteer as "Special Constables" to patrol streets, a move described as encouraging "block nazis." Additionally, Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) has proposed a system where employers send all paychecks directly to the government first so that taxes can be deducted before the remaining funds are transferred to employees.

united kingdom· special constables· council tax· hmrc· tax reform

48:31 No, I can't listen to it. It's who cares We're dying here man we can't listen to this shit all right on to the your next topic alright Let me go to get my nation east a story today in the Daily Express This is beautiful headline front page Tax cuts for good citizens oh yeah, this is where its going council tax that's kind of like like municipality tax Rebates coming for members of the public who become special constables is among a raft of incentives being considered by ministers preparing for the biggest shakeup of policing in decades. So now you can become... A think! You can become a Nazi, you've been become one of the party and you will get tax breaks if you become a... Block Nazi! Block Nazi exactly

49:27 Volunteers could see their council tax bills halved as a reward for helping police patrol the streets. I saw you put some recycling in the garbage can, i saw that! You spit out gum on the street. Wow... The specials they're called The specials, the Special Constables. You know when we live there... I know that country is just exactly the way Orwell portrayed it in 1984 It's unbelievable to me that public puts up with what they put up with Well its obvious why! There's the fluoride in the water They're chemtrailing all over the place, the complete... Ah yes dude this is second half stuff

50:16 There's a lot of fluoride in the water, in the UK. And there is no debate! People are completely anesthetized and if they're not getting it through the water they're drinking themselves into oblivion That's what happening there Remember in 70s The thin white Englishmen with a friggin' stick and stones and smoke bombs, an-and you know, and a bandana around their face. You know? And they go out there and they burn crap down! An now the French are out doing it! You should be ashamed of yourselves, you Gitmo East slaves! Gotta get out there and go kick some ass! Friggin'...you know these special constables we had them on our square when we lived there

50:58 And they're total Nazis. They're dicks! They're total dicks and they come over, you can't park there I'm parked here for a minute You can't park there i'm calling uh the parking police The PCS Yeah we have those types of people here although they don't encourage it yeah but they don't have badges And this is even better, the UK's tax collection agency also known as what we would call the IRS or they call Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs HMRC. Please note the her majesty that woman is not just like some figurehead she's taking your money it's Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs Collection Agency have put forth a proposal It has been out for couple of weeks but haven't talked about

51:48 that all employers should send employees paychecks to the government first, after which the government will then deduct what it deems as the appropriate tax and then will pay the slaves I mean the employees by bank transfer. So instead of filing taxes and paying appropriately or having withheld by your company, no no we're going to do it differently. All companies send your money to the Queen and she'll take a look at you slave! And decide what should be taken out of your paycheck That's actually, that concept is actually being looked at seriously in this country. Duh! This is why we know that Gitmo Nation East is the model we know it's the along with the lowlands its the beta testing ground for everything that were gonna see who's flying that kite here in the states? I just overheard on one of the shows Really? Geez... Now we got our own problems here though The TSA out-of-control now

CHAPTER 16 / 32 Discussion

TSA Overreach and the Right to Opt-Out

A woman in Philadelphia filed a lawsuit after TSA agents detained her for an hour and questioned her about receipts and checks found in her wallet, even accusing her of embezzlement. A separate incident involving a host's wife at a Seattle airport describes her being "punished" with a long wait after opting out of a full-body scanner. The discussion highlights the perceived arrogance and lack of accountability within the TSA.

tsa· philadelphia airport· aclu· embezzlement· body scanners· opt-out

52:55 Well you should listen to this report about this woman who has filed, well actually I guess the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union is filing a lawsuit on her behalf. And of course she's hot! I have to point this out so we've got a hot CNN reporter with a hot soccer mom kind of milfy And this would normally fall under the trains good planes bad, but I just put it under gitmo nation because well That's what a checkbook and Kathy Parker says her travel nightmare started with this wallet. They went through compartments You know they kind of look through like this and in this compartment to keep a lot of chat Receipts so they were actually pulling out receipts now if this had if this happened to me If I saw that I would be hey hey hey

53:43 Put that down right now. That's not your job, put that down! And the problem here is she just went along with it. She went... It's kind of weird they're pulling out my receipts What do you think they were trying to nail her on John? I have no idea and we're looking at them And that is when Parker says her trip through Philadelphia airport security went too far. It was very uncomfortable, it was embarrassing to have your personal things from inside your wallet receipts just you know laid out in the open and people looking and it was

54:20 It was just a horrific experience. And that wasn't all, Parker was flying to Charlotte North Carolina on business in August when she says Transportation Security Administration agents and local law enforcement detained her for an hour questioning her searching her personal items even calling her husband to say she was suspected of embezzlement after finding $8000 in checks in her wallet What kind of embezzlement do you think it would be John? I mean these are TSA guys, they're like Dick Tracy. They must be in business against the TSA! No no no these now these guys are Sherlock Holmes man listen to this... They told him that they detained me because they suspected it was a divorce situation and that i was emptying out our bank accounts What? Like thats illegal?!

55:08 What? What has the TSA got to do with this? I don't know. What is wrong with this country that they allow this sort of thing continue?! My wife went up to Seattle on a plane and she was detained for half an hour because she wouldn't go through that stupid scan. Yes! Good on you Mimi, good on ya Mimi she's almost mister flight because they just had a standing there for half an hour six and i sat down on somebody can't first we are okay that's it too bad did you know usually do you ask for the woods for this u s or the delay she's like punishment negations yeah so basically their punishing people for work for way to make it well what will what will wait a minute john

55:50 Now we've discussed this on the show didn't she have her printout that shows it is an opt-out situation? No, no it's fine. She has no... they said there was no problem but she had to wait until the woman could pat her down because they wish you wouldn't let a guy and then she said let a guy do I don't care Oh! She said no no no we have to have a woman as she's on her break. Really how come you didn't call me about this what are you gonna do get outraged Well, here it is. Here's the story. Unreally! Screw this story! Mimi's story is a lot more interesting so she opted out did they hassle her before they finally said stand over your slaves? So why are you opting out?! Why are you opting out!? And so she came up with some reason to opt-out No no what was her reason I want another reason She says she was claustrophobic

56:44 Well that's a dumb reason. You should gotta say because... I see she wasn't thinking, she could have come up with a better reason if you don't like it i got a million reasons Yeah well why did you say how about uh radiation and your gonna die first you shit Yeah, well anyway. But the guy said okay whatever but they still... The real hang up was keeping her there for a half an hour waiting so she could get padded down I think hell with it and by the way a bunch of people got delayed in this thing because the flight that she took She... I helped book it and the flight should have been full 10 empty seats and it was all because they barely got, you know she came late to the gate and there were still people stuck back there because they're training people. Well wait a minute! They acknowledged that it was punishment for an opt-out correct? They acknowledge this? Essentially. Well did why didn't she get like some badge numbers or something that's just got a lawsuit here well she went for what

57:47 Just to stir up some shit at least, come on! This is the problem. You've got to stand- you've gotta stand up to these assholes She did and she waited and waited and she got screwed That's not standing up that being a slave Until the legislative branch of this government does something...you can fight this all you want you're gonna just get screwed because the public at large doesn't give a crap Yeah but there's just some lone guy standing around looking like an idiot because nobody else cares but it can't do this as a single person you have to you know i think that we had a flight you have to start somewhere were just yeah guys were just two guys talking about this stuff what if we say well he was just two guys weekend doing anything why even bother no i think the problem is that we gotta get people at all did yes there be a movement it can't be one person if they like only one person entire country doesn't go through that thing

58:37 It's not gonna work. You can sue them all you want, yeah maybe you get 15 bucks it's gonna who's gonna pay for the lawyer up front we don't have any fees for this or funds for this? We have to start a website you gotta go through a campaign there is a lot of work involved Starting a website is really hard I agree How about um alright no agenda producers out there let's start a website called Mimi Says Screw UTSA dot com No, how about a website called TSA Horror Stories and start collecting them so it doesn't look like a personal vendetta of one of the members of this show who's outraged because his wife was delayed half an hour in the TSA line. Which you've been done a million times! How come you haven't sued them? Well because they didn't say I was being punished... Well I don't know that that is exact word and she doesn't have the guy's badge number so there isn't anything she can do In fact try to get anybody's badge numbers while your floating through the TSA

59:31 They got the badge on their hip. It's impossible Yeah, this is something's gotta stop here TSA or a story matters if this woman is having them rifling through her receipts And and you can't go as you can't opt out of that stupid device You can you can these guys are completely out of control? and the guys who run the TSA don't seem to give a crap and they know and did there in fact If I was in the TSA, I'd probably be arrogant and then be lording it over everybody too. It's so much fun You would. You actually would be such a dickhead, I'm telling you, you would be that kind of guy! Hey hey what are ya goin' no no no no you can't cut underneath the rope because there's nobody in line go through the whole thing walk back and forth and back and forth and back and forth and back and forth give me that water slave! Dispose all water dispose all water

1:00:30 No containers with more than 3.3 ounces are allowed You're good at it. There's a guy in San Francisco going, no containers more than 3.3 ounces! If it says that has more than three point three ounces I don't care if its half full its still not allowed. No really? Yeah there is this guy in San Francisco he's barking to everybody He says...he says..if the container says four ounces and theres no ounces in it It's still not allowed if it says 4 ounces In other words you can bring an empty container that says four ounces And he's gonna make ya throw it out I gotta tell you that when they're barking like that, this is the thing. This is the thing I do. Okay sir! I will sir! That's what I always do and it freaks him out You just got to bark back at them. Yes I will Sir! You can ask Mickey. I do that all the time She will not go through before or after me

CHAPTER 17 / 32 Discussion

USPS Postal Regulations on Stamped Packages

A listener reports having a package returned by the USPS because it was paid for with stamps and weighed over 13 ounces. This regulation, which was lowered from 16 ounces after the September 11 attacks, requires such packages to be presented in person to a postal employee for security reasons.

usps· postal service· 13 ounce rule· security· pipe bombs

1:01:28 Don't blame her. She wants at least five people distance I don't blame her well It's also security for me because you're gonna get clubbed Don't tase me man Whatever you do Wow speaking of ounces, and then we should get to our donations Producer John Thompson hey Adam. I run a small eBay store I sold the book packed it up put stamps on the package and took into the post office on Tuesday today I Get my mail and the post sent me my package back with this shut up slave note. It was returned to me with a sticker saying that anything mailed with stamps that weighs over 13 ounces has to be paid for at the post office by an employee, and this of course is to protect our security." Did you know about this? Yeah I did as a matter-of-fact. Because it used to be apparently 16 ounces since the 90's even

1:02:26 And then after 9-11 they change it to 13 ounces. Like you can't make a 12 ounce pipe bomb, I mean what is this? You probably can't make a 12 ounce pipe bomb but i think there's other kinds of bombs that could be made that are 12 ounces Yeah do you have anything on your website No, you sure not Dvorak org slash pipe bomb under 12 ounces. Are you sure? I just want to make sure that echelon gets it all yeah Yeah, you and the locals block Nazi go check it out. Hey He's making pipe bombs and I think he's got kiddie porn on his computer

CHAPTER 18 / 32 Discussion

Child Pornography Allegations and Digital Privacy

The discussion turns to the use of child pornography allegations as a tool for character assassination, citing a case in Oakland involving a school board executive. The hosts also mention strict Australian regulations regarding images of flat-chested women and warn against using commercial photo developers for private family photos, recommending digital cameras instead.

child pornography· oakland· australia· digital cameras· privacy

1:03:04 I think you should go check him. It's coming up, it's coming up dude! You just watch it's coming up. Well they got there finally busted some guy who was planting kiddie porn Yeah Which scares the crap out of everybody because this happened in Oakland and some situation where there is a some onerous situation taking place place with the school board and somebody planted some bogus kiddie porn on some uh... executives computer do which she'd some psycho and that he had to resign i mean they never filed charges or anything which seems a light and what was he doing within it was like because it was kind of weird the way appeared and but that's like you go great way to get rid of your boss i think people out there should consider this

1:03:45 first you gotta get the kiddie porn but the fact of the matter is I think anything is kiddie porn. They've made it so nudity as pornography, in fact if you remember back before the digital era there was a number stories where were the local block nazis that were working at the photo finishing places and drug stores around the country were supposed to look out for naked kiddie porn going through the system shlubbed like an idiot took a picture of his little baby on a bare skin rug. A thing you're supposed to do with your kids just as the keepsake and show it to him later, and they went through the system somebody turned a guy in he got arrested for kiddie porn! Yeah no this happened recently too when some people took a vacation to one of the national parks and everyone was swimming around just naked yeah and they took some pictures

1:04:38 But I think if you're still taking pictures with film and having it developed at the one hour photo, you're a shit. You deserve to be thrown in jail anyway. Get a digital camera will ya? So liberal about that but anyways... The point is that this kiddie porn is now- you don't even know what it is because they don't show it. In Australia when the guy goes to court did anybody gets to see what we are talking about? In Australia flat chested women or is kiddie porn? Right, flat chested women in their 20s and 30's and 40s and 50s are just kiddie porn. But this even happened in the early 90s with us in New Jersey we had a picture of Christina with her butt sticking out like some cute outfit with high heels on and Minnie Mouse ears which is just too cute for words And Patricia got a real talking to from the block Nazi at the one hour photo It's ridiculous Anyway let's thank some other people who support this show

CHAPTER 19 / 32 Discussion

Listener Donations and the De-Douching Ritual

A lengthy segment features various listener donations and "de-douching" requests. Notable mentions include an Ironman triathlete calling out non-donating friends, a former Russian spy in Norway, and a Dutch listener in Australia. The hosts debate the logistics of managing the high volume of "douchebag" call-outs and birthday requests.

ironman triathlon· de-douching· dallas cowboys· norway· copenhagen· value for value

1:05:39 Yes, let's do that. Let's begin with Christopher Ball from Steamwood Illinois $150 one-time donation thank you to John and Ann for a great show I listen on my commute as many of the listeners do we We service the commuters. And in my long training sessions for Ironman triathlon, swim 2.4 miles bike 112 miles and run 26.2 miles it's been a while since I donated and felt it necessary especially to call out two people! I turned on to the show long ago and they've yet to donate Trevor Buzanow of, I'm sorry, Buanzow. Give me a break on this name! Buanzow from DeKalb, if it was in Georgia, Illinois and Nathan Miller of Brownsburg Indiana you are both douchebags.

1:06:37 Give him a second one. Okay. There you go, that's both to Trevor and Nathan Oh by the way I'd just like to say people uh... we have a lot of new listeners to the show apparently coming in from all over Gitmo Nation as we do seem to gain some traction You don't get deduced just by saying i want to be deduced you don't get a douche bag call out if you haven't actually sent it any money That's not how it works Someone else can call you out as a douchebag who was actually a non-douche bag. And you also can't get a birthday shoutout if your'e a douchebag, please! That's our formula. Jeez, and we'll hit you in the mouth. Jonathan H Miller of Brownsburg Indiana $110.20 John and Adam are up in the morning to donation 112... 110 20 is

1:07:28 I've been tripping double nickels on the dime times two hoping it makes up for two years of being a douchebag. I travel between Chicago and Indianapolis weekly, and no agenda comes in handy for those long commutes number 2 please de-douche me. You know i can't believe that we're actually so against high speed rail when that's where the audience lives when you think about it we want slow speed rail they can listen to the longer. I think many people listen in their cars but yeah i'm sure we have a lot of uh... but those who are already taking the train and high-speed rails, fraud is not going to help, its gonna save them ten minutes there was a high speed rail this crazy x2000 or whatever's called up in sweden that runs from Stockholm to Gothenburg

1:08:18 and it's like, it's one of those leaning trains so if you stand up you'll get sick as a dog. But it leans on the regular tracks and its the high speed rail in Sweden And they used to have this apparently very luxurious train with dining cars and all that rest of it That used to go at the same route and is long ways but apparently the difference in time is like 20 minutes When all is said and done without this expensive weird train. There's now a train from Moscow to Nice once a week? it only takes fifty two hours must have been the other is a commuter train and then take this out its own of thousand fifty euros for one way ticket kane he hate easy jet ever heard of it ruskies she dummy right anyway they can also says he wants to uh... he says my friend chris from stream would

1:09:13 Called him out early in the show. There's no amount of de-douching that will help you. Oh, yeah You've been D2 should help won't help Stefano Scalia's Fremont California He'd like a d douching and a douchebag call out to Matthew Evans came at you You've been T douched $69 from Stefano uh... joe murphy bellavista arkansas fifty six seventy eight that great to hear you mention david suarez's books on the last thursday show excellent book and i heard you mentioned court cut good-looking as you because we don't record quarry doctor

1:09:52 Little brother. This is also one that must read anyway spread that funky de-douching on them, okay? He wants me to spread it read it properly. Spread the funky de-douching all over my face No, he says that's sweet funky de-douching You've been de-douched. Yeah but you smell bad uh... okay michael schultz palm beach florida alright palm beach uh... double niggles and then just refer to me as michael from palm beach ok one day we go there you go good job john i have a few dollars left after met this is from last week i don't remember this all rick hansen that from denmark it appears the right or eight yet denmark in art from copenhagen is matter-of-fact double niggles on the dime

1:10:45 Please deduce me. Pronunciation for my name is the U and you in you link in this short version of Ulrich. You've been de-douche'd! This is ridiculous Murray Raw, not everybody needs a de-douching Murray Robb, Ottawa Ontario Canada. Double Eagles on a dime. Jon and I have been listening since show one this is my first donation please de-douche me! I need an extra strong one turn it up two decibels also son September 26th is my wife Michelle's birthday we'll do that in a second So I'm not allowed to de-douche anymore? Is that what you're saying? No, no. You can de-douche. I'm good. You've been de-douched! I'm just complaining. And then Nathan Renick who is Double Niggles on the Diamonds has a birthday call out and then we got Steve Quentin London Ontario

1:11:40 uh... he was called out interesting and so he's ordered his coin in these making this donation please deduce me this one is deserved and please call out curtis hiller as a douche bag curtis here's your deduction you've been t do she's getting annoying and credit curtis has been called as it is very for never done again also for being a dallas cowboys yeah that's a double-double deduce Chip, Patrick and to the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah. Patrick Fusil looks like Garfield New Jersey $50 in the morning is my donation. He needs karma

1:12:19 for he's also saying in an extra $8 for you I don't see the eight dollars yeah but oh a forty two dollars plus eight dollars from me there we go Frankie geeks being condolences yeah unless zombies may be involved please mention my twitter at kiss story CK is STO ry need some followers and Patrick Fusil dot wordpress.com f-u-c-i-l-e Clark Hunter Reading Pennsylvania $50 Jacob Clemens Waukesha Wisconsin fifty dollars I have an idea, why don't we take a playbook from the block Nazis and just do a group de-douching

1:13:02 Y'all get in the deduce shower together. We just do one de-douching I think this is a just of short term fad Okay, we could try that Lars Inc. Wollin in Oslo Norway Heads up to Adam he's a former Russian spy Seems like Norwegian Secret Service as part of the program shut up slave and he's got some website you should check out again Oh, I've seen this This is the the new Norwegian Like underground hilltop crackpot command centers the Russians move in it's like of course they're in bed with the Russians Yeah, yeah definitely Then we have mark beakers of Kingfisher Shores. I think it's brokers And he's challenging me New South Wales He's a Dutchman and living in down under I think is brokers Okay, burkers now say it with an N

1:13:55 With an N? Yes. Nurkers No, it's bo- It's Bokers and now say it with an n Just say it! Nurkers Burkers with a N Thanks forget about it The Dutch people will appreciate what I was trying to do Oh there is a pun Nevermind Oh nurkers means nuts or balls or something like that Never mind. That's your humor. Yeah, that's my humor. Scott Serena Cobb California $50 happy birthday to my son Elliot we'll do that in a second introduce him with the showing now is 15 year old and now loyal listener good shows an integral part of his education give him a no agenda happy birthday indeed douche me as well You've been D douched

1:14:44 I'm telling we got to move towards mass de-douching. It's just becoming outrageous happy birthday Murray Robbs is happy birthday to his wife who it's just apparently named wife and and it's a birthday today scott serena for some elliot fifteen on that ten five ten and nathan running turns forty two today now unit yes people want to donate can go to no agenda they want you they should people should go to know agenda uh... show dot com devorek dot org slash in air channel of work dot com slash in a in the

CHAPTER 20 / 32 Discussion

Establishing the $100 Douche Level

To manage the increasing number of requests for "de-douching" and "douchebag call-outs," the hosts decide to set a formal donation level of $100 for these specific mentions. They emphasize that the show is 100% listener-supported and does not accept traditional advertising or corporate underwriting.

donation levels· de-douching· listener supported· podcasting· business model

1:15:27 and does support the show. This is the only reason we do this show, it's 100% listener supported We do not take donations other than from the listeners, we don't take donations from companies for advertising, we do not take underwriting, we do nothing...this is 100% listener supported which by the way is anything else in the country It's a highway to poverty across looking at today's uh... donations really had a lot of little ones but i think i want to thank everybody by the way for taking out a five dollars description or thirty three thirty three subscription which is even better and uh... you know and and i and we like to say hi to all the commuters out there this is your what i thought was interesting is that we have demographics they go from life you know ten two seventy years amazing well yeah

1:16:11 Here's a better idea John we have levels for executive producer and associate executive producer. I think we need to do these deducing level You want to spin off the de-douching to a specific... Well, this is nuts. I know we had too many. It was too many yeah it gets boring. I think it should be douches okay here it is douches are 100 bucks whether you want a douche call out or a deduching douches are 100 bucks that should just be the level come on let's be honest about it and if it gets crazy then well up the level again its ruining the donation segment

1:16:47 Yeah, it's too many. So we have to figure... Okay well we have a new douche level that come on the douche level the level of douching or de-douching is now 100 bucks I think douche call outs this is that people can record this This is the highlight of the show Douche callouts I don't think should be expensive because they do encourage people to get involved with the show I Think the de-douching probably especially after a call out should cost you That may be the hundred dollar one Okay, I'm good with that so we'll figure it out. Douchebag call-outs are okay But you know it's like everyone will have a douche bag caller We all have a douche bag friend around

1:17:29 Well, we'll have it worked out within the next few weeks. Yeah what? How hard is this let's have the meeting right now how hard I go to the web and I got a redo their CSS I gotta put this no We don't need to do oh Oh that's right you have to do some work now No. Well you and me both, I mean come on! You're the one that's got the theory that we should just watch C-SPAN all day and never do any work. Apparently you're not doing that either, you're watching Hawaii Fargo! Ah there you have it how wrong you are since were going to start the next segment i have the c span clip of the day okay what is it

CHAPTER 21 / 32 Discussion

Immigration Reform and the American Apple Industry

Testimony from a congressional hearing on immigration reform suggests that the H2 visa system is being manipulated to favor large agricultural conglomerates. An industry representative warns that if the U.S. apple industry is starved of labor, China—which already produces half the world's apples—is ready to take over the market. The hosts argue that immigration policy is being used as a distraction while American agriculture is outsourced.

immigration reform· h2 visas· apple industry· china· agriculture· stephen colbert

1:18:07 It's the one, I have to give a little background on this one. This is the clip that says and you can figure out when it started...it's the death of the American apple So they had these hearings with in fact they had your favorite woman on these shots Oh! The black woman with all the scarves? No she was on the Colbert hearing, never mind that so there was a hearing on illegal immigration and mostly no i wasn't her what am I thinking on immigration reform And this is the one where Colbert showed up. Did you see the guy talk about the Apple industry? Okay, there's a guy on there is representing the Apple industry There's number of interesting people at this until Colbert showed up that had interesting testimony and I started listening to it But kind of between the lines and realize that immigration reform isn't just granting a bunch of illegal aliens Citizens no. No in fact the clear agriculture well. No that's not true It's it's not all about agriculture because also about the illegal immigrant children

1:19:05 serving in the military. That's an element, these are all distractions The whole thing is a giant distraction to keep you from realizing what's really going on which is the fact of the matter and this guy made one... You'll listen to his clip but I'm gonna tell some stuff he said along with this female professor that was at this thing And it seems as if what's really going on in this country is that same things happen manufacturing is to outsource everything including agriculture And the way to do that is to screw up the H2 type visas. Oh, visas! Right... And this guy had one story about there's some weird operation in the Northeast that has some screwball fruit that can only be picked by experts from Jamaica There's like a group of people who float around the country as certain kinds of expert apple pickers? No they're not for apples it's something else

1:19:58 but whatever the case was they didn't do it's apparently a tsa not to tse but that you know when security people in the diana solarism refused to give these guys the h two with a visa or whatever they need to come in and pick the crop it was gonna rot in two days and they had to go actually did what sent a lobbyist of congress the congress had to like tell these guys to give him the visas because every year they come and pick this fruit or whatever it is and he finally got his just at the last minute they came in this is going on all over the place forcing people to hire illegal immigrants because they can't get that kind of help there were normally getting in the past anne all but you can see where this is heading when you look play this clip which is the Apple clip.

1:21:01 Florida tomatoes and oranges are moving to Mexico and Brazil. China has requested access to our market for fresh apples, and they already produce over one half the world's apples If the US apple industry is starved for labor, the Chinese are ready to step in and supply our apples In the face of a crisis, retrieving lost production will not happen quickly. Specialty crop production is extremely risky. Average profitability doesn't really give a proper return given the risk that we take For most of us, the reasons we stay in it are not economical. A major life goal for me is to provide jobs for as many people as possible Wow! So... this is very interesting

CHAPTER 22 / 32 Discussion

Dean Foods and the Monopolization of the Dairy Industry

Dean Foods is identified as a massive conglomerate that has acquired numerous local dairies, including Berkeley Farms and Altadena. The company has faced multiple lawsuits for monopolistic practices and allegedly squeezing out small dairy cooperatives. The hosts link this consolidation of the food supply to broader themes of corporate control and the decline of independent farming.

dean foods· berkeley farms· monopoly· dairy industry· wikipedia· agriculture

1:21:46 Yeah, when you listen to the professor there's a female black professor from I forgot what some of those one Eastern College and she had a really good spiel. and then they had a couple other people there that had good spills, and then this Apple guy which I thought was boring at first. And so I started listening to him and I started realizing this whole immigration thing is not... the reason you have all these illegals is get everybody all worked up about it in the whole real scam that's going on in the background is to get our agriculture shipped someplace where we were its cheaper to produce and we can bring it in as more profitability These giant conglomerates are screwing us And I'm just thinking locally what's happening, for example. I went over to the Andronico store over here in Berkeley and next thing you know Berkeley Farms foods are all gone! But this is the scary thing isn't it? They're also making your own organically grown at home stuff illegal that's the scary part. You can go on Outsource and screw everything up all you want but to make it illegal for me to plant some seeds in my backyard because it doesn't adhere to the Codex Alimentarius that's the part that scares me

1:22:48 Yeah, and you should be scared because even though it sounds like total bull crap. It's true! There is an element of truth to it because they can do this, in fact they're trying to screw the organic farmers and small operations already And we know that if you read any their organic stuff that is online these people are moaning about these government guys coming into screw them over then this all has to do with big big big business and I could bring up some more on this but it did it has to do with getting the stuff kind of mechanized farms. If you've ever flown to South America and you fly over Bolivia... you will see uh... some farms down there you look down you go my god what is that it is the size of nebraska and it's all you could just see if the entire thing is automated its giant strips of land they're designed to be you know irrigated in farm by machines it's just a it's a damn this so you've never seen anything quite like it missus going on in mexico to this going on everywhere uh... did justin kind of mechanized food supply

1:23:52 shut down did the little farmers that have like the apple guys who have all these specialty products we don't need that still confusing too many skews you know in the right way you know and we just put up with it we'd just for can pull it up with a dull way We just put up with it. I mean people don't even know this that what you're telling us, they have no clue there's no media reporting on this No one is listening to something very simple of course You'd have like turn on the television tuned to C-Span Oh my gosh! No Lindsay Lohan on C-Span People miss this They just totally missed what's happening right before their very noses We need to annihilate all these fuckers in Congress and the Senate

1:24:36 seriously right this line them up just shoot him all of them you be on some list tomorrow i'm already on the list shoot em all so uh... here's the so here's a net then dron it goes in there said berkeley farm stuff sought to show that listen to somebody man how berkeley summit summit employees what can someone is one to buy something from them they said i i i the guy says well you know since a texas company and their move into dallas and blah blah blah blah blah so with the fuck are you talking about berkeley farms are still in hayward but net so i decided to look into it and indeed in nineteen ninety eight berkeley farms was bought by dean foods and i want people who go read the wiki page uh... in the wikipedia just reading dean food stage before somebody from actually this morning is going about it it's just a fact that they're being sued left or right for all kinds of monopolistic practices date on basically every step me just for example

1:25:32 uh... let me just read a few of the dairies they own. They own Altadena, Barbies, Barbers, Berkeley Farms, Bordens, Bruton Foods, Browns Dairy, Country Fresh, Creamland, Dairy Ease, Gandy's, Gerilik Farms, Gilbert's Dairy, Lehigh Valley Dairy Farms, Liberty Dairy, Lewis Trouth Mayfield Dairy, MacArthur Dairy, Meadowbrook, Meadowgold, Meadowdairy Oak Farms, Pet Dairy, Prices Priority, Ryder Robinson Dairy, Schenker's Sheps, Swifts Farms it goes on and on i mean that stuff these guys own is unbelievable finishes the giant corporation and there you know essentially standardizing everything to benefit the shareholders or whatever and the government's done nothing about a nobody reports on it uh... in fact he read every check from the wikipedia which i'm you know is not accurate but it's got good stuff in april two thousand nine foremost farms usa big company cooperative over two thousand dairy farmers in several midwest state two thousand dairy farmers

1:26:30 So this Wisconsin milk processing plant, Dean Foods screwing these guys. Wow! So what do we do about that? This is what immigration reform's all about It's all it's all about big corporations screwing you Are we hopeless is there nothing that we can do We can bitch at least were doing that much most people don't even know Yeah, that's true yeah, we're bitching damn Well anyway John in case you missed it there was a big United Nations meeting in New York. Oh yeah! Which coincided of course with the Clinton global initiative and the United Nations finally did something for me, finally the UN is paying off they have selected a Malaysian astrophysicist to be the head of its office for outer space affairs better known as UNUSA

CHAPTER 23 / 32 Discussion

United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs

The United Nations has appointed Malaysian astrophysicist Mazlan Othman as the head of the Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA) in Vienna. Her role includes acting as a liaison for potential extraterrestrial contact and maintaining a register of objects launched into space. The hosts also mock the acronym for "UN-SPIDER," a platform for space-based disaster management.

unoosa· mazlan othman· vienna· aliens· outer space affairs· un spider

1:27:36 As Mazlan Atman describes her potential new role next week at a scientific conference, the Royal Society's Kavli Conference Center in Buckinghamshire. She will be the one who will welcome aliens when they finally come down to say hi. What? Yeah she is first contact Did somebody tell the aliens Well, here we go. This is it! This is my message to the aliens if you're coming down look for the signs for UNUSA that is the United Nations Office For Outer Space Affairs and pull a ticket and wait in line to meet with Dr. Othman

1:28:20 Because she is your official liaison. Where's her offices? She is your official liaison How do you get this job?! I don't know! I'm pissed they should have chosen me, that she's the one. She is our official... Where are her offices? If they're gonna come down and visit with her they gotta know where she is Let me see... It's probably in New York at the UN building You think she has an office there? Yeah of course, UNUSA Let's see where that was he which is listed on the index. You know the bigger this little thing again They have to go in and announce themselves and sign in you do they had to go through the metal detectors The aliens do they have to do that hold out outer space? I'm gonna see if I can find it here. It is oh, it's a Wait let's say here's that they have a Wikipedia page of course

1:29:16 United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs. Oh, this will be mint! This is great I gotta put this in the show notes. Organization of the General Assembly charged with implementing the Assembly's outer space related policies it is located in the United Nations office oh and Vienna So off to Vienna you slave aliens. Don't land here! You're in the wrong place. The aliens don't want to go to Vienna? Yeah, it's beautiful in Vienna this time of year. It's beautiful this time a year. The office implements the program on space applications... John have we put in our space application yet?! No but I think we should They also maintain the register of objects launched into outer space Wow okay hold on they have a website

1:30:04 usa.unvienna.org Oh my gosh, I didn't even see this! Wow! Well then I gotta look through all this This is good. Is it just one word? U-S-A It's uh... no no no it's www here I'll put in the Skype for you This is great! This is awesome www.usaoosa.unvienna.org Let's see, August 26th Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space International Space Law. There is a lot of international space law. UNUSA is also responsible for implementing the Secretary General's responsibilities The United Nations Register of Objects Launched into Outer Space I guess you have to apply if you want to launch something in outer space now What does U.N., I don't know what does U.N. spider?

1:30:53 Where's that at? UN Spider. United Nations platform for space-based information for disaster management and emergency response, spider. Space based disaster management... where is the I... oh it's space based information okay spider. Where is the M in SPI? Space based information SPI for disa... D management... Spidmer! It's Spidmer! Well there's the M! You can't make up these things and leave a word out! That's no good Anyway, very happy to see that we have a liaison. So all you aliens head on over to Vienna that is where Apparently it's all going down when we should go visit couple more foot ten bucks She's not in her office right now. We should call her hi this we should call ours and anything That's the other thing whose is this a 24-7 manned office because who knows what time they're gonna show up Well, they better be there on October 13th cuz that's when they're coming

CHAPTER 24 / 32 Discussion

Mysterious Human Feet Washing Ashore

Reports of human feet found without bodies have emerged from Chattanooga, Tennessee, and the Cleethorpes beach in the UK. A second foot was discovered near the Humber Estuary shortly after the first. Authorities are conducting specialist examinations to identify the remains, though no corresponding bodies have been located.

chattanooga· cleethorpes· humber estuary· human remains· forensic science

1:31:54 Get your boarding pass now at Dvorak org slash na get your mothership boarding pass because October 13th They're coming and they apparently will be entering our atmosphere in Vienna to get their papers papers Let's go to Vienna now to see an alien. Okay? Well couple of the weather just didn't have it in New York Why would they have with a setting up a special office you know this is all American taxpayer money in Vienna Now the whole UN we've paid most of the bills in this operation Some foots in the news. Oh no! Yeah, now that we've and of course we're one of the few shows that actually can do this with our global audience and we're not just a global audience by saying oh we received by billions of people tonight on The Academy Awards No We actually have a global audience that is checking in and sending us stories which gives us great opportunity to cross-reference these things and see if they're happening everywhere

1:32:53 Chattanooga, Tennessee. A jogger in Chattanooga smelled something fishy and discovered a boot with the part of human leg among some dead fishes in the Tennessee River The jogger notified emergency personnel and remains have been taken to the medical examiner's office They're working now with missing persons see if anyone is missing a leg And we have a human foot washed up on Cleethorpes Beach in Gitmo Nation East human foot found at the beach body part was found Clethorpes Beach in Northeast Lincolnshire on Wednesday by a member of the public police officers removed the foot from the scene and it was taken to a local mortuary for specialist examination we've removed the foot from the scene and they're still trying to identify the body that would go with that foot yeah, lot of feets and no people yes. And then we have this is

1:33:51 The Grimsby, this is also Gitmo Nation. No wait this is... Wow that looks like San Francisco Where's the Humber Estuary? Never heard of it They're showing me a picture of like the Bay Bridge Maybe there's an estuary that runs between Alameda and Oakland But it's not, I don't think it's called a Humber. No this is the UK, this is the UK Wow! Oh this is the bridge that looks like it? Yeah yeah, it looks like it Send me a link, I want to see it now A police... actually it looks more like uh.. Not the Bay Bridge The Golden Gate Bridge Well its confusing when you see the picture I'll send you the link Uh Police investigation continued today after human foot was discovered on the banks of the Humber estuary less than a month after one washed up on the Cleethorpes beach That's a follow-on story Nice bridge Yeah

CHAPTER 25 / 32 Discussion

Geopolitical Analysis of Pakistan and China

An analysis by a show producer suggests that Pakistan is a strategic blocking point for natural resources moving to China and India. China has invested heavily in the Gwadar port and reportedly has 11,000 soldiers in northern Pakistan. The theory posits that the U.S. may want to destabilize Pakistan to block Chinese overland trade routes, while China seeks to secure them for oil and mineral transport from Afghanistan.

pakistan· china· gwadar port· bob woodward· afghanistan· minerals

1:34:47 So lots of foots and no bodies. We have one of our producers did a nice analysis on Pakistan, yeah? You know what was it maybe two or three shows ago we were talking about essentially maybe Afghanistan just being one big distraction for Pakistan Yeah because you got to get those nukes out of there Well he actually is tying this into China which I thought was pretty interesting as you know we are definitely sucking China's little penis because they're paying for everything

1:35:23 A couple of points he says, one the floods in Pakistan this summer were massive most likely the floods are just a hundred year natural event but if you want to put your tinfoil hat on please note the comments about the Qalabagh Dam project. Interesting apparently there's some like issue with the dam that I guess it's spelled K-A-L-A-B-A-G-H If you want to get political pressure behind a massive dam project, a horrific flood might do the trick. Very interesting hypotheses number two I like that now they're thinking like we think yes nuts Nuts but not that nuts CIA damn thing that yeah That thing does is that the one if I'm not mistaken is the one where they block in the Yangtze River You know it's actually there's a lot of people consider an environmental disaster this dam and

1:36:18 I don't know whether it is or not, but the Chinese are going to use it for... They're gonna be chewing up a lot of power. Interesting yeah but very interesting theory. I like it According to Bob Woodward's brand new book, which I have not read yet. The CIA is running... Sorry? I'm sorry and we do know that as a backstory for new listeners you have to read what's the name of the Bush family secrets, what was the name of that book? Family Secrets You have to read that book and there is a great deconstruction of Bob Woodwards career in there Yeah he's a spook He's a CIA guy. According to Bob Woodward's new book, the CIA is running a 3,000 person covert op in northwestern Pakistan Senator Dianne Feinstein confirms the US base in Pakistan 3000? Yes and there's a US base she said he has links all this stuff it great I'm putting this whole thing into show notes So why do you think that they would want us to know this

1:37:17 Well let me continue and we'll see if we can figure that one out. China built a deepwater port named Gwadar at the mouth of the Persian Gulf for the cost of approximately 1 billion dollars US now China has as many as 11,000 soldiers in northern Pakistan in an area named Gilgit Baltistan to quote help with flood relief. So this is how it works, right? First you turn on the weather modification machine You start flooding everything and then you get to do all these political things like moving 11 thousand soldiers to help out But here's the thing there's a rail line or also a pipeline linking China's Gwadar port to China's border with Pakistan This guy has done some amazing work here

1:38:10 China is planning to build a rail line to Kabul, Afghanistan. This would allow the newly found quote mineral resources to be shipped out of Afghanistan towards China." This is a beautiful setup this is geopolitics I think our producer here has done a great job and that would be Eric from Portland so here's his analysis Pakistan has nuclear arms therefore cannot be invaded Pakistan as a key blocking point for oil true Now when you say the guy did a great job, you're talking about our producer not about Bob Woodward. No no this is our producer Bob Woodward he does a great job for the CIA Yeah well I mean they just give him the documents and he just puts it together If I was working... You get best sellers out of that They got the best material

1:39:00 But I really like what Eric has done here. So Pakistan, a key blocking point for oil natural gas and minerals moving to China and India. China particularly in India have skyrocketing demand for oil natural gas and minerals and controlling Pakistan is a key way to block the movement of these to the east so it's strategic without an overland route through Pakistan these items oil gas and minerals have to go by sea The fastest sea route is the inside passage through Singapore which is home to a large US naval presence, which has strong ties to Singapore. In fact Singapore controls the business running through Gwadar at least for now so if the land route is blocked for oil gas and minerals and the inside passage past Singapore's block it's a long trip 5,000 miles around New Guinea

1:39:46 If you take that route, you have to pass Diego Garcia which is no small task. Therefore Pakistan is a strategic asset due its geographic position China wants to hold Pakistan together to secure routes for oil gas and minerals while the US wants to break Pakistan apart to stop the movement of oil gas and minerals to the east Additionally, if Pakistan breaks into regions the US military under the guise of UN sanctions will have the need... ...the needed world backing to go in and take out nuclear weapons due to political unrest and a political lack of control of the nuclear stockpile. I'm liking that. I'm liking the work Eric did here, putting his entire analysis in the show notes at noagendershow.com Excellent! Yeah it's really good It seems solid Because we've had a hard time getting any information out of Pakistan whatsoever Uh... don't think we have any producers No, i dont think so either We got a couple indian guys who just you know listen casually That area is hard to penetrate uh even though they speak and read english

CHAPTER 26 / 32 Discussion

Oil Spill Drills and Predictions for the North Sea

The BBC reported on oil industry drills off the coast of Southampton designed to prepare for a disaster on the scale of the BP Deepwater Horizon spill. The hosts predict that a major oil event may soon occur in the North Sea, potentially targeting Norway due to its independent stance outside the European Union and its significant oil wealth.

bbc· southampton· north sea· norway· oil spill· bp disaster

1:40:47 uh... they have a it's a even as a writer you know if you're trying to uh... get your stuff syndicated their gear in the published it's almost like pulling teeth a very insular they don't want to take anybody's outside you know they think everything is by guessing price does there suspicious for pride good reason they do won't take and take your material And while we're talking about oil, get out the prediction notebook John. Remember I said about half week ago or maybe a week ago major event coming? A new something-or-other another oil disaster BBC this is how it works BBC now reporting

1:41:25 From the steamy waters of the Gulfs of Mexico a practice session is underway to prepare for what the oil industry must dread, A repeat of the massive spill on the scale of the BP disaster in Louisiana. So whenever they're getting gearing up for a little test there... But where are they doing this? Off the coast of Southampton, Gitmo Nation East This is where they're testing this. North Sea, baby! I'm telling you, North Sea could be next Well you know there...I think there's a uh.. I don't want to sound too weird about this but we do already know that the EU as a whole and which also encompasses the one world government folks are not pleased with Norway

1:42:09 No, because they're not in the EU that kept the Kroner of God. They've got tons of oil and they get tons Oh well, they got there are now in the you to not sharing the wealth as a team players They're not team players are not sharing their wealth or their uncooperative and of course having a great time And by the way, no Scandinavian Nordic countries those Norwegian women are the prettiest So they're having a time of their lives and they gotta somebody's gonna stick it to them So it will be Norwegian though, Norway will be involved in this if your prediction is correct. Well I think it's coming pretty quickly and you know just the fact that they're oh well we're practicing here We're getting ready and we're safe If there's a big oil spill we're all safe And then remember we had the earthquake drill recently so there's some fault in the North Sea could cause huge tremors and I think There were also

CHAPTER 27 / 32 Discussion

San Diego Earthquake Drills and Military Activity

San Diego State University hosted "Exercise 24" (X24), a drill testing the use of social media during a major earthquake. Simultaneously, residents in Southern California reported an unusual amount of low-flying military helicopters, including Chinooks, Blackhawks, and armed Apaches. The hosts question the necessity and transparency of these military exercises over civilian populations.

san diego· x24· earthquake drill· twitter· blackhawks· apaches

1:43:09 doing a yeah this was pretty crazy San Diego earthquake drill did you see that they were doing this on Twitter? Yeah. And Facebook I mean what so i have the news report here those both those elements will come in very handy when there's a big quake and the net goes down if you see a message on twitter or facebook friday, well it was past Friday that says the Coronado bridge has broken in half or that Scripps hospital has collapsed Don't believe it. It's a test, just the test San Diego State University is hosting a huge two-day earthquake drill that's meant to explore how effective social media can be in spreading news and information about catastrophe Groovy guys now we're depending on the fail whale to help us out And their hashtag X24 What's up with that? Yeah I don't know...I don't like it

1:44:07 I don't like that they're using Twitter for it. X24, what is with x24? I don't know let's take a quick gander Well so i'm looking at if you just search for x 24 hashtags well of course there are a million of them Nobody even on the Wikipedia knows exercise 24 There must be an x24 international two day collaboration multidisciplinary exploration blah blah X24 would refer to Exercise Perhaps 24. Since it's on a website that also includes inrelief.org and the San Diego State University Viz Center, so it's gotta be this. Exercise 24 Live has commenced thank you for your participation please take our after action survey as soon as possible so we can analyze the feedback at our hot wash Monday. It's all just jargon. Cool

1:45:14 Hot wash discussion by x24 participants and observers the purpose of the the purpose of the hot washes to identify best practices and weaknesses of the response during X 24 which will be included in the x-24 after action report this report is used a guide future exercises in response efforts military So is military all this and by the way, this past week I've had a couple of Angelinos email me about it. I have seen you know...I have never seen this many military helicopters fly overhead There's continuous information Four Chinooks. I've seen five six Blackhawks yesterday one black hawk and two Apaches What is going on?

1:46:02 Where are they flying from where that they're flying over the 101? I know that because it's right over the hilltop watch tower crackpot command center. What is going on why are these? I mean The Chinooks you only see those when the president in town Where are they coming from where are they going to and why are they flying overhead all the time if anyone knows please You know if there some kind of military exercise going on What is up with that? And quite honestly, Miss Mickey's a bit freaked out about it. These things make the windows shake when they go over. Oh yeah but they shouldn't be allowed to fly over civilian populations and they're going over no more than 1,000 feet overhead so you know we're at 800 feet so there are 1800 or 2000 feet and they're armed! There's missiles on the side of the Apaches whatever the hell I can see them right there that's how low they are

1:46:56 It's just it's creepy. Yeah, that's a creepy plane and I don't understand why they're flying what is going on? Is there something that we're unaware of because there is their drill apparently That's just not very nice And don't forget when you were down in San Diego, which is where the X-24 exercise took place. Oh it was one every 90 seconds? There's all this action going on because it was training. Ah! It's a training facility to train our soldiers. Yeah well they totally ruined the... Ruined our stay that's for sure so let's go back to the question. We didn't answer amongst ourselves Which is why would Bob Woodward be given this information to tell disseminate? Well we have to read the book That's for sure okay, so I don't know it's gotta be in there well Maybe it's just a CYA or something you know or we told you so or who knows yeah Okay So looking at the shadow puppet theater

CHAPTER 28 / 32 Discussion

White House Staff Departures and Peter Orszag's Wedding

High-level departures from the Obama administration are discussed, including Rahm Emanuel, David Axelrod, and Lawrence Summers. Former budget director Peter Orszag was reportedly snubbed by White House colleagues who canceled their attendance at his wedding following his public support for extending the Bush tax cuts.

rahm emanuel· david axelrod· peter orszag· lawrence summers· bush tax cuts

1:48:05 Rom Emanuel definitely now, I mean although he still has not announced anything you know now the news reports are everywhere that he will be leaving the White House and also David Axelrod. Yeah! Will be leaving the White House this should be very amusing without those two well what do you think? Do you think they knew something like that the president is not going to run for a second term That's what it seems like to me Well they're definitely jumping ship I mean, it's too soon. They're just getting their act together. You know even Clinton in his first two years took forever to pull it together. Reagan took forever to pull it together. Did a couple of these two years and usually the first team stays on at least until you know into the third or fourth year and then they bail out in the second term but

1:48:57 This is a little premature it seems to me. I'm gonna have to maybe somebody out there can do some research and maybe i'm wrong Maybe the chief of staff, you know quits early But I don't recall it happening before It may be overplayed by the right-wing media. I'm not sure also Lawrence Summers leaving the president's economic advisory team Yeah, I have a complete speech that I picked up off of C-SPAN of him yacking away about stuff. He's terrible What is your Orszag wedding clip? I've been looking at that throughout the entire show. Well you know it's apparently Orszag is being marginalized Peter Orszag? Yeah he's being marginalized and they're not going to go to his wedding all these people in the White House The Peter Orszag was an advisor to Iceland

1:49:40 and he did so well that they asked him to come and be the management, be the...to oversee the Management & Budget Office basically to hold a checkbook. Yeah, after he sunk Iceland. And so they're now shunning his wet...should we just go straight into the clip or does it need set up? The White House sends its regrets Check out today's lead item in page 6. Obama trio planning to skip ex-budget director Peter Orszag's wedding. The paper reports that Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel all made last minute cancellations apparently because of a New York Times column Orszag wrote this month. Made the case for extending all the Bush tax cuts, a big departure from the president's official position. Orszag's wedding ABC correspondent Bianna Goldriga is set for tomorrow in Manhattan I think this snub has a lot more to do with something that isn't about

CHAPTER 29 / 32 Discussion

Chris Christie and Meg Whitman Town Hall Incident

New Jersey Governor Chris Christie made headlines while campaigning for Meg Whitman in California. During a town hall meeting, Christie aggressively confronted a heckler, telling him to "shut up" and accusing him of dividing the country. The hosts suggest the confrontation may have been a staged "shut up slave" moment intended to bolster Christie's political image.

chris christie· meg whitman· california· town hall· heckler· sopranos

1:50:31 and may have to do with how they work together in the White House. Now for tonight's... What the fuck was that music all about? This is a stupid segment that they play on hardball, and they have all this music in the background you can't listen anything anymore than bunch of bracket going on They did have one thing that was interesting took a clip uh... apparently just gonna play it I think its kind of funny uh... this is a clip of Chris Christie who is apparently stumping around the country he's the governor jersey New Jersey. Yeah, he's a kind of big fat blowhard. Isn't he like an ex-Goldman guy or something?

1:51:10 I don't know, maybe you can look him up. Whatever the case is he's a blowhard and so he apparently came out to this... And i think by the way this whole thing is rigged but but i don't think necessarily Meg Whitman knew about it. Meg Whitman was at a town hall meeting giving her little speech to get the governorship and she uh... Heckler showed up And the heckler started yelling at her. And she got really actually kind of freaky about it, I mean like really freaky She had eyes bugged out and didn't know what to do. She froze like a deer in headlights. And Chris Christie who was there to give the talk to help promote what she's doing with other people jumped up grabbed the mic and chewed this guy out

1:51:53 uh... but he couldn't do a very good job of his easy kept saying hey you know what pay you know what hey you-know-what in other words is there any semi illiterate and that and i think this is the guy was because it looks like she'd be on the sopranos really yet only to the guys stands up and q almost and then he kinda doesn't say anything and and chrissy choose about looks good showing him out except for the fact that he can't really do a good job of it by disrupts it repetitious hey you know why uh... and then they did the whole thing is in a clip got a lot of play and i think this thing was really good i don't think make women necessarily knew but this guy was a plant and christy you know that this show off and i think it's really maybe do stuff like this here and there is a faces fake listen to it spectacle theme continues here on the side so this week new jersey governor chris christie with campaigning on california would make women when i have learned about the witness speech christine was quick to jump in

1:52:52 Hey, hey listen. Hey listen you know what? You want to yell yell at me but don't give her a hard time we're here talking about the future of the state of California and the future of our country and you know what let me tell ya this it's people who raise their voices and yell and scream like you that are dividing this country We're here to bring this country together not divide it Christie services are in demand anywhere. California is just the first stop on his 11 state political tour He says he's not thinking about running for president 2012 Let's see how that if there was ever a shut up slave moment, that was it Hey hey You know you shouldn't be yelling and raising your voice and making a ruckus you slave shut up slave your divide in the country slave Screw that guy no easy this guy yeah But the thing was rigged

CHAPTER 30 / 32 Discussion

Diagnostic Criteria for Childhood Depression

A medical student provides the specific diagnostic criteria for childhood depression, noting that only five out of nine symptoms are required for a diagnosis. The symptoms include irritable mood, weight changes, insomnia, and "psychomotor agitation." The hosts argue that these criteria are broad enough to apply to almost any child, facilitating the over-prescription of antidepressants and Ritalin.

depression· ritalin· dsm· mental health· pediatrics· antidepressants

1:53:49 I mean he couldn't even pull it off with you. He said, you know what? I think seven times Hey, yeah, you know what John right where we got a note from Danny the med student Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when your med student you like get taught stuff. Yeah, listen to Noah Jenna 236 You were talking about depression and children hey hey Hey, you mentioned that whole list You only need to have five of nine to be To be is to be eligible for drugs for kids till he sent us the link You know, for antidepressants? Yeah. So it's only five of the nine Well what did we say? Well we said like if it was just one of them Oh you need five not one? Yeah, you need five or the nine We could go through this list again Go to the list again I'm sure we can check off five on everybody Depressed mood most of the day Anyone living right now in this country would have that Wait note! Note! Note

1:54:49 In children and adolescents, this could also be an irritable mood. Okay that's one, that's everyone. Check! Two... check Markedly diminished interest or pleasure in all or almost all activities most of the day That's all kids are bored. Yep Three... significant weight loss when not dieting or weight gain which is a change of more than 5% of bodyweight Decrease or increase in appetite nearly every day. Note, in children consider failure to make expected weight gain." Okay we'll skip that one. Four, insomnia or hypersomnia nearly every day?

1:55:30 Psycho motor agitation or retardation nearly every day. What does that mean? I don't know it was like kids are walking around like morons isn't that what they do? In other words if they're acting goofy. I'm checking that one too, how many we have three? Three. Okay fatigue or loss of energy nearly every day yeah All kids. Alright, feeling of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt which may be delusional nearly every day? I would tend to check that one. No let's keep it unchecked you never know okay here eight diminished ability to think or concentrate. Check! Hello? Check! Kids are that way Now heres a tough one this is the show recurrent thoughts of death not just the fear of dying

1:56:23 Recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan or a suicide attempt or specific plan for committing suicide I'm not checking that one, but we already have five. We know what I'm saying But you know as a kid and how many didn't you say? Oh, I'm just gonna go kill myself then haven't you said actually no kid No Okay Now there's a BC&D which am I quite I don't understand the symptoms are not due to direct psychological effects of a substance okay The symptoms cause clinic clinically significant distress or impaired in social occupational other important areas of functioning like school And the symptoms are not due to direct psychological effects of a substance Okay, so if you're on the shit then uh, you don't qualify to get more of the shit Yeah. Okay. So we do have five We got five One two Uh number one Number two Easily easily You might be able to get a sixth if your try Easily So dope them up put them kids on Ritalin Yay

CHAPTER 31 / 32 Discussion

Stephen Colbert's Congressional Testimony

Comedian Stephen Colbert testified before a House subcommittee regarding migrant farm workers, appearing in his satirical "Colbert Report" character. While the appearance generated significant media attention, the hosts criticize the testimony as a boring "Seinfeld episode about nothing" that insulted the dignity of Congress without contributing meaningfully to the policy debate.

stephen colbert· zoe lofgren· congress· c-span· satire· migrant workers

1:57:19 Dope them up. Let's see what I have left so the only two things we have outstanding for sure here John are now we still haven't resolved what we're gonna use as an end of show clip, we have the Colbert congressional speech which you have a short clip right? I have a short Colbert clip which is his introduction to his rather long-winded... This, by the way became the big topic of discussion on both right and left wing talk shows. But it sucked! His speech sucked! It was boring but here's the thing that's interesting everybody got riled up about it because it was like an insult to Congress because he testified in character as the Colbert character

1:58:12 And he had a couple of jokes in there, but it was like... They fell flat! They weren't funny. No they weren't But this is the beginning of it which kind of gives you the insight to the whole thing and we'll We can post the whole thing if we want but just play this little clip and this is all you need Hold on I have the wrong clip queued up here sorry Here's the short one My name is Stephen Colbert and I'm an American citizen It is an honor and a privilege to be here today. Congresswoman Lofgren asked me to share my vast experience spending one day as a migrant farm worker I am happy to use my celebrity to draw attention to this important complicated issue, but i certainly hope that my star power can bump this hearing all the way up to C-SPAN 1 Yeah so what was the point of his speech? What was... because obviously... I think Zoe Lofgren who invited him to come on has a crush on him

1:59:07 So she basically misused Congress and C-SPAN 3 to get laid? Yeah. Well, she didn't get laid I'm sure of that you don't know that. I do. Colbert apparently will go to anything. It's a collective unconscious. Colbert will do anything clearly. Sure! I would too. I'd be in there going hey except for the Zoe part... You know what i think actually I'm very happy with this because this means that the Congress is open to crazy people like us. I think we can have Ron Paul invite me to go in and say some kooky shit! I would love it, i'd record that, he might get bumped up to C-SPAN 1 We might even use as an end of show clip if im really lucky but seriously doesn't this open it up? If we can have Colbert go in and do schtick and was unclear what he was saying did you understand the point

2:00:02 uh... monologues the satire about nothing i mean it wasn't he was worse than a seinfeld episode there was that you did no point in the didn't do anything and it didn't bring forward at the cover didn't move the conversation which is to waste of time to be honest but it but would get what was interesting as the way they left doing especially since i'm surprised they didn't walk out on him this was a this was a uh... an insult to congress and they went on and on about it and the right wingers, I haven't heard all of them but believe me it will be discussed to death on Monday. Well i think its a perfect set up and I think its been legitimized and my people will call Ron Paul's people and he should be able invite me into any...I mean I can talk about any conversation in Congress and I can read like Colbert except that wont try.. Yeah thats the other thing, you read the whole thing. And I wont try to be funny He screwed it up about two thirds of the way through

CHAPTER 32 / 32 Discussion

Nigel Farage Interview on the Euro and EU Democracy

In an interview, Nigel Farage predicts the eventual collapse of the Euro, suggesting that Germany should return to the Deutsche Mark. He criticizes the European Union as fundamentally anti-democratic, claiming it was designed by Jean Monnet to bypass public opinion. Farage also discusses "climate hysteria" as a tool for reducing democracy and increasing energy costs for the poor.

nigel farage· euro· germany· brussels· jean monnet· climate change

2:00:55 and he'd be like, he missed a paragraph or something. He had to go back. So the end of show clip then let's do Nigel Farage about the demise of the Euro and Europe in general Well, that's probably much more entertaining it is and he actually he says hey Germany You guys should pull out now while you still can get the Deutschmark back and you'll be groovy. He's right Yeah of course he's right yeah, then he's saying that you know Ireland Portugal pigs the pigs yeah this they're all going down and I get out well you can so

2:01:33 so we'll wrap it up. We will do that as the end of show clip anything else you have left over that we don't want to forget? well let's see, we got uh... no just this Bernie Sanders yeah its fun to listen to Bernie Sanders but is not important okay uh... I think thats all unless you wanna replay the Hawaii Five Oak Cliff ummm lemme think uh... NO! okay absolutely not were not going to any of that Instead, John let us sign off for this episode from Gitmo Nation on the west. How's the weather outside Miss Mickey? Is it 105 degrees? She has her headphones on so she has a 30 second delay which means that she'll turn to me in a few minutes and go... Oh yeah! So she is listening to the short stream instead of live? Yeah well she was out. She had an appointment. So you just got..she just walked back in

2:02:37 All the everything you have heard discussed on this show. You can find in the show notes at no agenda show calm You'll also find a link there to help Support the program we live solely on your donations And we could certainly use a couple nights and said seem like everything was kind of down today, and remember de douching now at a $100 level Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California, in the morning everybody. I am Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where it is going to be hot here too but not quite a hundred, I don't think...I hope not! I'm John C. Dvorak We'll talk again on Thursday right here on NO AGENDA

2:03:30 Mr. Farage, when will the Euro break apart? If I knew the answer to that... ...I would go down to the bookmakers and place a very large bet and be a very rich man. I don't know when it's going to break apart! I suspect that between now and Christmas something big will break. And if you remember back in May this crisis was at its height over the course of summer it appeared to be a calmer quieter period and of course in Brussels everybody is in denial Huge debates about the EU happen and no one mentions the Euro. Well, apart from me of course I always do but if you look at the economic figures coming out of Ireland this week If you look what's been happening to bond markets in Portugal

2:04:09 And again in Greece, you realise that there are some huge problems here. If people in Germany think the Euro crisis is just about Greece I'm afraid I've got some bad news for you because you ain't seen nothing yet Portugal and Ireland's economies are possibly even in a worse state than Greece I think something may happen before Christmas, but when will it finally break to pieces? I can't say. But inevitably it will. It was just a huge cataclysmic error to force into a monetary union Germany and Greece and Portugal. It simply can't work." So what is your solution for this? Germany out of the Euro?" Well there are two solutions! There are two solutions. One

2:04:48 that Greece is forced out and Portugal probably in Ireland too, and they have to re-establish their own national currencies. And they'll probably need some help to do that as well. That's one solution I mean clearly Greece needs massive devaluation otherwise she simply can't cope at all the other more radical solution and it may appear to be off the agenda completely of the moment but the radical solution of course is that Germany says look We've actually proved since 1945 that we're rather good at managing our own currency. We're rather good at managing our own democracy, you know? I mean the Deutsche Mark was a currency that was globally respected and the Germans reputation for fiscal responsibility and sound money was something that we were all very jealous of

2:05:29 And the radical thing would be for Germany to say we are taking back the Deutschmark, we're taking back control of our lives. We don't do this in a spirit of being against anybody you know? We want to trade with our European neighbours, we want to cooperate with them, run our own lives and have our own currency that's the radical step and that is one I personally would like to see But do you think Brussels will like this? I mean we have a big huge democracy deficit there Well of course! The fundamental problem in democratic terms with the European Union has been since day one, that it is the European Commission. The bureaucracy, the civil service if you like they're the ones that have the sole right to initiate legislation They are the ones who have the sole ability to amend and change legislation So... You know..you read in newspapers that the European Parliament did this and the European Parliament did that but in effect what the European Parliament does It does the bidding

2:06:24 of the civil service. In a democracy it should be the other way around, it should be parliaments that make laws and civil servants that enact laws in Brussels its the other way round now the bigger democratic question is can the deficit be closed? Is there a means, is there a way of democratizing the European Union? And my answer to that is that right from the very word go this was never intended to be democratic. So it's intended to be undemocratic then? Absolutely! A kind of Runter then? Well from the start... I mean Jean Monnet was the father of this. Jean Monet really was the father of this project he hated democracy

2:07:03 It was terribly inconvenient because if a government gets elected and it goes in this direction for four years, then you get another government that goes off in a different direction. Now people like Monet with their great global views and with their unshakable belief that they know what is best, they know how we should live our lives... They don't want a system like that! They've got 10-, 20-50 year plans and democracy is highly inconvenient If, if there was anything truly democratic about this European Union then when they drafted a constitution that was the opportunity to make it democratic and I challenged them all the way through. Come on show me that you're Democrats! Make this Constitution a democratic framework for a European Union and they steadfastly refused to do so But so far we are closer to the former socialist republic than to a democracy Well great

2:07:51 A friend of mine and a man that I admire enormously is a former Soviet dissident called Vladimir Bukovsky, who now lives in Cambridge. He's been in England for about 30 years and Vladimir spent 12 years in and out of mental institutions in the former USSR categorized as being mad because he was opposed to the system. Interesting! I'm often called mad as well. And you know, Vladimir says that what he sees with the development of the European Union is something very unpleasant and he has a sort of chilling phrase. He says, I have lived in your future and I didn't like it Coming back to another issue concerning the EU is this climate hysteria. Where are the roots, where are the causes for this big big lie? Well it's so convenient isn't it you know that if politicians get a whiff that there is something happening where they can show the world what wonderful people they

2:08:45 then they all club together and they all agree. And so it's been with climate change, global warming call it what you will that this was their way of showing everybody what wonderful people they were firstly secondly they gave their failing European Union as they saw in some sense a purpose And anybody that was offering a sceptical voice, was absolutely vilified and derided. I remember doing a program about five years ago when this whole topic came up and I said well hang on you know, I may not be a scientist but i think there is another argument going on here that it's not definite that CO2 emissions are leading to increased temperatures. And I was on with the Labour politician British Labour politician and he sort of pointed at me and screamed denier! Deniers if I committed something like in the middle ages yes oh yeah witchcraft you know but I should have been burned at the stake for doing it now it's interesting because

2:09:43 I think people are beginning to wake up to this. Whether or not we are living through a period of global warming is open to question, but what I am certain of is the measures that supposedly to combat climate change are leading to yet another reduction of our democracy, are burdening the poorest people in society with unnecessary bills. And in terms of energy requirements we're heading down a road that is absolutely mad! I'm afraid Germany caught the disease before we did. There are 18,000 of these disgusting wind turbines all over Germany. It's all well and good when the wind blows but what happens in February? What happens in February when it is cold and we have fog and frost and a big anti-cyclone sitting over northern Europe not one of them turns or produces any electricity at all so you know what we've done in the name of climate change frankly is disastrous

2:10:41 Finally, your personal view on the developments in Brussels. I mean they are sticking to their power and I don't see any new developments in terms of a democratic development Quite the reverse! The next development... And watch this space because it's October Herman Van Rompuy, the President of Europe. The man who of course earns more than Obama but was never elected by anybody in October his task force will report and his task force is to set up a new economic governance of the European Union and one of his plans is that if any member state breaks the rules that he sets they will have their voting rights taken away from them That's democracy in the EU That's what's coming next But it reminds me more

2:11:30 to a dictatorship. Let the viewers make their own minds up, I basically believe that this project isn't undemocratic, i believe it is fundamentally anti-democratic But in a personal talk to me, you told me there is nevertheless some hope for the wider future. Of course there is! Look of course there is! What our career politicians are doing in all our member countries for their own self aggrandizement, for their own careers, for their own finances what they have done is nothing less than to betray our nations, to betray our democracies and do it against the tide of public opinion. The gap between the governors and governed is now a gaping chasm I am an optimist. I believe that gap can be filled through peaceful and democratic means. Many thanks for this interview. Thank you very much

2:12:24 We told you so, oh no I should die. We told you so! Ha!