Episode 228 · Sunday, 22 August 2010

Gassed in Boston

Federal agencies release chemicals into Boston transit tunnels for terror simulations as corporate interests and intelligence agencies maneuver through a landscape of recalls and retracted allegations.

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About this episode

The Department of Homeland Security recently conducted a simulated terror attack in the Boston subway system, releasing sulfur hexafluoride and perfluorocarbons into the transit tunnels. While officials claim the study tracks gas propagation for public safety, the use of potent greenhouse gases and chemicals known to cause flu-like symptoms raises serious health concerns for commuters. This simulation occurs alongside a massive recall of half a billion eggs from Wright County Egg in Galt, Iowa, which critics suggest may be a strategic move to consolidate the industrial food supply and eliminate independent farmers.

International tensions and corporate maneuvers dominate the landscape as Julian Assange faces a rapidly retracted rape allegation in Sweden, a sequence of events resembling a botched intelligence agency honey trap. In the United States, General Motors filed an S-1 to go public, admitting that its new leadership lacks automotive experience while the public still holds an 85% stake via government bailouts. Meanwhile, Warren Buffett invested $2.4 billion into Johnson & Johnson, a move seen as a calculated bet on the financial windfall of the Affordable Care Act. In Haiti, Wyclef Jean appeals his presidential disqualification while the preferred successor of the current administration, Jude Celestin, faces scrutiny over a prior bank fraud conviction in the United States.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak navigate these stories despite a crippling Comcast service outage in Northern California that forced a pivot to manual production. The duo deconstructs medical propaganda in the television drama Royal Pains and mocks the sudden media obsession with bedbug infestations as a potential PR campaign for the mattress industry. The program concludes with a look at the cultural significance of the number 42 ahead of a binary-themed fundraiser.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

Comcast Service Outage, Northern California Connectivity Issues

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program discussing a major Comcast service outage affecting Berkeley, Albany, Richmond, and Kensington. The outage lasted from early morning until noon, preventing the hosts from accessing their usual production spreadsheets. They describe the automated customer service experience and the frustration of troubleshooting hardware during regional downtime.

comcast· berkeley· silicon valley· connectivity· router

00:00 This is bogus. Yeah. You can find out who's doing it. He's got the CIA working for him. He's the president! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's Sunday, August 22nd, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 228. This is no agenda. Coming to you from the hilltop watchtower Crackpot command center at Gimel Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California Kind of in the morning. I'm Comcast cares guy Adam Curry It's in the morning somewhere all the time and it's sunny here in northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak Hey John, hey guess what happened? Gee

00:47 Comcast went down. Well, I got up at 630. Yeah, as we do, we all get up early on show day on school day. And so I go and the thing is dead. It's got one light. It's just kind of blinking, blinking, blinking. And when I see that, it looks like, oh, great. And so I finally called Comcast and got a message that the whole area Berkeley, Albany, El Cerrito, Richmond and Kingston. Kingston, Jamaica? I guess because I mean there's a town called Kensington. They said Kingston? But they said Kingston so I figured something was wrong in Jamaica. Right.

01:25 And they said that it was an audition that would be fixed, but they don't know when. So they went on, it didn't get fixed until just now, which is noon. Now did you speak to anyone at all? No, it was all a message. As soon as you pushed the button to ask for somebody, a message came up because they obviously scan your phone number and say, why else would they be calling? Right. And so they probably got a huge bill for their 800 number today. Because normally you'll get someone on the phone and they say, okay, here's what I want you to do. I want you to cycle the power on your router. I hate that so much. That's so annoying. Okay, then what? Yeah.

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

No Agenda PR, Domain Acquisitions, Value-for-Value Banners

The hosts review recent promotional efforts by the community, including new domain acquisitions like let-vote-for-jobs.com and trains-good-planes-bad.com. They highlight new "Value for Value" web banners created by Mark the Donation Dude and mention the premiere of Marcus Couch's "Earthquake Machine" on the No Agenda stream. The segment concludes with a call to propagate the show's formula.

noagendapr.com· mark the donation dude· value for value· domain names· marcus couch

02:02 Alright, so we're still a little discombobulated, but I have the clips. We don't have the spreadsheet yet So we're gonna wait with executive we have executive producers actually yeah We have we have a couple executive producers and a couple of I think I can an associate so we'll get to them probably as when we thank everybody for sending their help to no agenda Okay, so calm then I can at least do some PR initiatives that have come in yeah do that okay, so Brad Bought a couple of domains and I kind of like him and of course they're forwarding to know agenda show calm He has let's vote for jobs calm and trains good planes bad calm which I think is outstanding because that mean will of course propagate and

02:49 I want to thank Mark the donation dude who has been running banners and these banners John are just outstanding. I need to get some of those banners so I can put them on my blog. Okay well these are great. It's a blue and white banner and it kind of looks like an ad for it's a Google ad it kind of looks like an ad for soap just the color scheme and it says in the morning don't send blankets. That has little button value for value. And so he's been sending people our way. And then, oh yes, noagendapr.com is up and rolling.

03:31 which is about time. That's another great site. It needs some help to propagate the formula, but you can check that out. And I just wanted to say that we have a new show at noagendastream.com, which actually premiered in prime time, seeing as Comcast was letting us down Marcus Couch's earthquake machine, which is pretty hard-rocking for a Sunday morning. Did you get my note about supportnoagenda.com? Yeah, I did. But I didn't focus on it. Okay, well, so what do you want to do? Well, we should thank him for thinking about this idea and we'll tell you what what we'll do is we'll we'll get go this just came in Yeah, it's an idea that will what we'll do is we'll go back to him this week and we'll talk about it on Thursday

04:17 Okay, so we will I guess thank our executive producers momentarily But first we have to help everyone wake up a little bit go out propagate our formula. It is simple formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Hey the duck call is back so big in the morning to you everybody to all ships at sea and to all the human resources who are charged up and ready listening live now at no agenda show calm and in the chat room at no agenda chat net John last night, you know what I did. I could guess now, you know what I did. Oh

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

Eat Pray Love Movie Review, Product Placement Criticism

A host provides a critical review of the film Eat Pray Love, starring Julia Roberts, after viewing it at the Director's Guild. The film is criticized for its two-and-a-half-hour runtime, excessive product placement for American Express and Sony Vaio, and its failure to capture the essence of the book. The discussion notes that Brad Pitt served as an executive producer on the project.

eat pray love· julia roberts· brad pitt· american express· sony vaio

05:08 No, we talked about on the previous show you warned me you said don't do it Don't even bring it up, but you're gonna bring it up. Anyway. You went to go see love hate and more What's in there the way? Boring hate what was this three words I can't remember boring stupid and lovely something like that. I can't remember eat pray love. Oh, yeah which of course is being Merchandised to death on the home shopping network Do you remember John when they used to have intermissions during the movies? Yeah, they needed that during this one. We needed to bring back the intermissions. So there are some books that just should never be made into a movie. This one is a prime example and now I can actually understand why Atlas Shrugged will never be turned into a movie because when you read a book like Eat, Pray, Love

06:01 Which actually I did you read the moon? Oh, I know I do feel compelled to read it now But this movie for me totally fell entirely flat and here's the worst part So there's eat, pray and love. So this woman she gives up on her marriage, she wants to go discover herself, you know it's like total chick thing. And she goes to Italy to learn about food and eating, then she goes to India to learn about praying and then she winds up in Bali and that's where she finds love. It's kind of that simple. I can see where the book would be a lot better. What was outstanding, I have to say, was Rome

06:39 You know it's very hard to make food look good on camera. That's one of the hardest things to do. The food looked so good. The pasta and the prosciutto. And Nicky and I looked at each other, and this movie is only 20 minutes into it, and we're like, God damn I'm hungry. It's like, I need something to eat right now. And it was so bad that by the time the movie was over, it's a long sit, it's like two and a half hours. Oh no, you're kidding. And she's on a diet. We looked at each other and said, let's go get some Italian. We went and we pigged out on Italian. We had pasta and salad and dessert and everything. It was great. But Mickey also thought the movie did not live up to its potential.

07:28 And I think the audience was... So on a scale of 10, would you give it a rotten... was it a rotten tomato? Three. Three. Yeah, I'd give it a three. That's bad. By the way, I did pay attention to the executive producer credits because, you know, it's the same thing as on our show. Brad Pitt one of the executive producers so I guess just listed in there casually yeah just Brad Pitt you know there's like eight or nine of them and but the whole the whole theater man it was just it was dead there was a couple of funny moments at the beginning you know one or two funny jokes but after that I was just like And uh, no. Did not work. Uh, oh and very annoying for me was the product placement throughout the movie. Oh, I hate that. Especially the long, ugh. So she pays for something with her American Express card and the shot is like, you know, that nanosecond too long when she's handing over the card.

08:16 uh... heineken and and still be here the only beers drunk in the uh... in the movie and that incessant use of bio sony via laptops is it's like you know that the gayest weirdest stupidest clunkiest things to carry around the world and yet she has one and then all her friends who were at home in emailing her back have one is like okay and i think it's a two obvious does and it's only pictures obviously so that's why it's a sony via which is like uh... But the credit card really bothered me. I was like, stop that. What was with the credit card? Well she was paying for something with a credit card. It was an American Express card. And they showed the card real close up? Oh yeah, they showed the whole handover, you know, of course. Well this sounds like a piece of crap. Yeah, well I will say

09:06 It brought Mickey and I even closer together if that is even more possible. Yeah, I doubt it. Yeah, but I would say if you're gonna go eat before you go because you'll be starving by the end of this thing after that Rome thing hits and you still got to sit through India and Bali is like a So it's from isn't your stomach growling. That's my instant movie review. Yeah, well it sounds like it's a movie to avoid Which is what I said to begin with but anyway, no no well of course it was the director's guild So it was you know it's always nice the temperature is right. There's no one farting around the sound is good The picture is good. You know it's the way you should see a movie

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Spanair Flight 5022, Malware Claims, Cyber Security Propaganda

The hosts analyze reports from El Pais and MSNBC claiming a Trojan virus on a central computer contributed to the 2008 Spanair MD-82 crash. They argue the malware story is a distraction from human error and maintenance failures, specifically the failure to deploy flaps. The segment critiques antivirus companies like Trend Micro for using the tragedy to push cyber security agendas.

spanair· trojan virus· ntsb· trend micro· cyber defense agency

09:44 Just when you know just when that when that pasta hit the screen I just wanted to walk out to the concession stand and get something to eat. I was like, oh that was bad So anywho most emailed article of the past few days Which you think intuitively would fall under planes good trains bad bad, but does not is what started with a article in the Spanish El Pais Newspaper online at least and I saw this come out I think late Thursday afternoon And I was wondering how fast it would how long it would take for people to Translate it and for it to go around and what it would actually went a wind up being But the story goes something like this there was a Spanair I think was an MD 11 that crashed almost exactly two years ago and

10:43 and the story to a train no the story goes that it this could have been avoided however the central computer had a Trojan virus on it right yeah and and so I'm like what and it doesn't sound right it's so poorly reported by everybody seen at ZD net even the register and they just like oh yeah you know is a bit you could this cause more plane crashes in the future and and then I start to look into it and then say NTSB reports well the NTSB has no authority over this crash you know they did have a a preliminary report when it happened in 2008 and what I think was really it was maintenance it's always a combination of maintenance and or human error it rarely is it weather interestingly enough in fact I would say it almost never is

11:36 But they tried to take off without their flaps. That's not a good thing. And there's all kinds of technical reasons why the warning didn't go off, but this thing had been in all kinds of maintenance for its sensors, for its ram air temperature sensors. And so what they're saying is, well, if only this computer hadn't been bogged down by a Trojan virus, then it probably would have given alert that it had maintenance on three different issues. And it's like total bull crap. It's the responsibility of the air crew primarily and also the ground crew. And I think they just messed it up.

12:16 So, but this was an internal report, so I think they're trying to distract the attention away from the fact that they actually messed it up. They really did a bad job and a lot of people died because of it. But then when you see how this propagates to, I think it's MSNBC, this report, it just really pissed me off. I'm bringing it up now, thank you. They're now pulling this all the way into cyber security. Oh yes, so they don't even have the facts straight. Didn't we do a piece about two or three months ago, kind of pre or seeing this in advance as cyber security meeting? Oh yeah, there's a lot more. I've got to... I forgot what the specific one was.

13:03 Well there's a couple of them. Yeah so MSNBC says, oh the US National Transportation Safety Board reported in a preliminary investigation the plane had taken off with its flaps and slats retracted. No audible alarm had been heard to warn of this because the systems delivering power to the takeoff warning system failed. Two earlier events had not been reported by the automated system. So that's like factually almost incorrect. But then the malware on the Spanair computer has been identified as a type of Trojan horse. And then they talk to this guy, Yams Yaniza, head threat researcher at Trend Micro, who of course make antivirus software.

13:41 And he's going to say, well, you know, the most likely way this happened is a USB stick. This is what happened with the International Space Station virus infection in 2008 or through a remote VPN connection. And then they talk to some other jabroni, Sami Zaidyari, president of the Cyber Defense Agency, which I think that it should be illegal to name your company anything agency because this makes it sound like they're part of the government. And he's saying, oh, any computer connected to a network is vulnerable to malware infection. Standards have not been set to protect critical infrastructure. It could happen again and most likely will. So, um, let's get somebody out there can go now go get the domain name. No agenda agency. Yeah, that's a good one. That is a good one. Now. So, uh, so yeah, this is bullcrap. I mean, okay, if let's start from the beginning, uh, is this a PC?

14:35 Well, this is unknown. This is unknown. In fact, the PC this is not a PC. I really doubt it I think it's a mainframe obviously, you know, it's not even a mainframe. It's just as some did say embedded systems type of computer That's probably very you know, no, it's not on the plane. It's at their office Someone has to manually enter a log that says okay. This was a problem and they put it in the machine on the on the on the airplane But that didn't have a virus that didn't have a virus. That's the whole point. I Oh the virus? Oh you're kidding me. The virus is at the office! This is why it's so ridiculous. Some sort of bogus virus on the... No, no this is this is why it's so bogus because... Oh this is even more bogus. Yes! This is my point. It's in a computer where they enter, they manually enter issues and

15:22 and normally it would go ding ding ding we've had three issues three critical issues with this aircraft you know you need to look at it. What viruses are up to? Because the hard drive was slowed down and maybe it might have been Windows who knows? Well it probably was Windows but it's bullshit. Yeah, of course it's bullshit. But this is an internal report from Spanair who of course want to distract attention from the fact that it was an error. It was an error. It was a checklist they're supposed to go by and they check it off? They actually have the cockpit voice recorder and It was like flaps okay, yeah flaps okay and then there was some distraction you know it's like I think they took off with their flaps up and you know what it happens. Yeah. However the aircraft normally would have given off a warning but because of the ram air temperature they had pulled a circuit breaker. This is always so funny. Yeah you know there was a warning so we just pulled the circuit breaker so it wouldn't beep anymore. You know so we talked about that exact problem with the uh with the global marine you know the um whatever the

16:27 the drill rig. Right. The guy saying that there was no... They had disabled the alarms because it was going off all the time and they got blue screen. Because we thought the guy was a little sketchy. Mimi, apparently her father used to work on these rigs. And he quit working for Global Marine because they disabled so many of the safety things so they wouldn't be honking at him all the time. And a bunch of guys were killed from an H2S burst that nobody was warned about. Then he just bailed out, he left the industry. And what is he doing now? He's dead. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to laugh.

17:06 I was taken back by that. Heartless bastard. I was taken back by that. No, the point is that it would, no, he went off to do some other business, but the point is that apparently the way it was told to me that these guys were these old oil guys, just a bunch of Texas cowboys and, yeah, what do you need this? Oh, a man's not going to have a, you got to be a man about this. You don't need, you know, this is not going to do, you don't need a warning. Yeah. So anyway, so that probably was true. Whether they pulled the circuit breaker No, I mean that they pull a circuit breaker on the plane that they pulled the thing out on the drilling rig They put they turned off their alarms and that's what these guys do. Yeah, it's like whatever just stop it already. I don't want anymore

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

China Train Trestle Accident, Siemens Green Marketing

A brief discussion covers a train accident in China involving a collapsed trestle. The conversation shifts to Siemens and their aggressive marketing for high-speed rail, including a collaboration with Orange County Choppers to build an electric motorcycle designed to look like a bullet train for environmental awareness.

china· siemens· high-speed rail· orange county choppers· electric motorcycle

17:51 So on the heels of this we know that there's a huge cyber cyber terror Defense thing work doing stuff like that. Hey But since you're gonna be on the trains planes bad good I did you see the thing that happened in China? That was only I only saw a report on the BBC about the train that went over the over the cliff No, no, so we played the jingle it sounds like it's worth it. Go ahead Yeah, this is like there were this train was going across the Calvert or some sort of a trestle and the thing broken half You know the trestle the train goes over it and is like hanging there and people have to crawl up there from one car to The other to get out of the thing before the whole thing go Kareem's into the drink Damn, like a movie set you know look fake. Yeah, no I haven't seen a reporter What you're gonna get with this Chinese high-speed this will be very interesting

18:47 I do know that Siemens, part of the high-speed rail cabal, is really trying to push it on the public. They're advertising everywhere and they've even had Orange County Chopper make a Siemens Smart Chopper which looks like a bullet train and runs on batteries. What? Yeah, they had the Orange County chopper guys, you know from the reality show, make a chopper motorcycle for them. Oh a chopper, I thought you meant a helicopter. No, make a chopper. Motorcycle. Yeah, that runs on batteries. Is it a battery powered motorcycle that looks like a bullet train? Yeah. Oh brother. We wanted to build this unique chopper to raise environmental awareness and reflect what the 69,000 employees of Siemens USA are doing to help America stay on the cutting edge of tomorrow's green economy.

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Boston Subway Terror Simulation, Toxic Gas Exposure

The Department of Homeland Security conducted a simulated terror attack in the Boston subway system, releasing sulfur hexafluoride and perfluorocarbons to study gas propagation. The hosts highlight that sulfur hexafluoride is a potent greenhouse gas and perfluorocarbons can cause flu-like symptoms. They question the safety of exposing the public to these chemicals under the guise of security research.

boston· department of homeland security· sulfur hexafluoride· perfluorocarbon· bioterrorism

19:35 Siemens is already very much a part of the fabric of America and our portfolio is one of the greenest in the business. Green is not marketing hype for us, no, it's in our DNA. Well written, Hill and Knowlton, well written. So the Obama administration, we'll just get off planes and trains, announced a $2 billion fund, which I guess is money we don't have, to combat bioterrorism and pandemic threats of which 822 million dollars will be for the development of influenza vaccine. I mean, can we not get off this shit already? Unbelievable. I guess they just think these guys are diehards. Well, and I think it's the what caught my eye was the was the bioterrorism attack because you know how we're always a little worried when they're doing some kind of simulation

20:38 And on Friday, Boston had a simulated terror attack on the subway. And I did a little research and it kind of is a little disconcerting but you know a lot about the chemical industry. So, hold on, I have Eric the Fed sending me a file. Where does it show up? Incoming file transfer. This is the file with our... But the problem is that apparently the notes didn't come through so I'm going to have to open that separately. Anyway... So we're going to have our bumbling thing as usual. Well anyway, so let me read this to you.

21:17 Scientists were releasing gases and fluorescent particles into Boston subway tunnels on Friday to study how toxic chemicals and lethal biological agents could spread through the nation's oldest subway system in a terrorist attack. So of course whenever something like this happens, you know, they're always nearby and you know, a false flag can take place. This is always, we're always a little bit suspicious about this. But what caught my eye is what they were actually spreading, John. Ummm... Sulphur hexafluoride. Do you know what sulphur hexafluoride is? I used to. So first of all... Where's my Merck indexes? It was... Oh, I moved it. According to the IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, it is the most potent greenhouse gas known to man.

22:12 that's the why would it be but what was the third one did they make an explanation for why they were yeah because they were so they wanted odorless and invisible gas to test how it would propagate through the subway tunnels in Boston that's their story but then you read on about this sulfur hexafluoride so besides it being completely against the entire Obama administration's idea of putting greenhouse gases into the air. It is not just a greenhouse gas, it is the most potent greenhouse gas. There's also psychological effects. Another effect is the gas's ability to alter vocal sound waves. The gas can be inhaled in a small safe amount and cause the breather's voice to sound very deep, effectively the opposite of inhaling helium.

23:02 Oh yeah, you can get that effect with any heavy gas. Okay. So then they also shot into the Boston tunnels perfluorocarbon. Perfluorocarbon. Do you know what this is? You might as well tell me. Well, common side effects. Doesn't sound good. Common side effects. Hold on a second. I got the wrong piece here. Hold on. Let me just pull up the wiki page. It's not good. You know it's not going to be good. They use it in operations. They use it when they're giving you artificial blood and it's... How is the side effects here? It basically makes... The side effects occur when the body is excreting, eliminating the fluorocarbon. Excrete depends on the vapor pressure. It gives you, here it is, flu-like symptoms.

24:07 Wow. So, you know, like this is not okay. And of course no one questions this. You know, the Associated Press just reports this. Oh yeah, we just put some put some perfluorocarbon in the air which can make you sick like you have flu-like symptoms. Literally says flu-like symptoms and some sulfur hexafluoride which is like inhaling helium in the opposite. They're just throwing that into the air. It's okay, don't worry about it. In fact, people asked, oh, if it has to do with security, I'm all for it. Right here in the article. I think at certain times... Yeah, this is how stupid the public's becoming. Oh, it's got to do with security? Well, better safe than sorry. Yeah.

24:48 Yeah, I think at certain times we do get into a comfort zone. Americans are like that. We don't think something like that will happen. We have to get out of that mode. Well, guess what? Your government is poisoning you. Right there. And they're admitting it and laughing at you. No, they're definitely laughing at idiots that make these comments. Yeah. So I just thought that was outrageous and the fact that no one is even questioning the... Well don't worry it's invisible and it doesn't smell. The point is why would they put that in there if it's just a test? What are they gassing people for? It's a week-long study commissioned by the Department of Homeland Security to figure out ways to quickly minimize the impact of an airborne assault on the nation's 15 subway systems and protect the nation's infrastructure.

25:32 You are the gas in people. What's the point do they take everybody that come out of this? I mean, how you feel? Well, I mean, what is it? What's the point of the gas? Well, perhaps to start a new flu pandemic because you get flu like symptoms remember I just told you there's a two billion dollar fund to fight bioterrorism and a pandemic it goes hand in hand, you know, I'm very annoyed now I didn't know about this. I wouldn't have been able to do the show today. Good. I'm glad you're annoyed. It's horrible. It's bordering on the ridiculous. Well, this is all about the... How about once you go through, let's have another test in the Boston subway system. You know, you send a bunch of terrorists and cut everyone's nuts off.

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

Royal Pains TV Clip, Vaccine Propaganda Analysis

The hosts play and deconstruct a clip from the USA Network show Royal Pains, identifying it as medical propaganda. They argue the dialogue promotes blind trust in doctors and shames parents who question immunization. The segment also mentions mandatory H1N1 flu shots for employees at Purdue University.

royal pains· usa network· h1n1· whooping cough· immunization

26:14 Just to test the possibility. Just to see if they'll bleed. Meanwhile, of course, it's creeping back into the vaccine, because it's about vaccines and they still got all this H1N1 vaccine they gotta get rid of. By the way, producer John, remember his dad works at Purdue University and they're putting the H1N1 into the annual flu vaccine and they were like, you know, don't take it. And he says, oh, well it turns out it's a requirement for all Purdue human resources to get the flu shots, otherwise they're not allowed to work there. They're being forced to take the H1N1. And then it's back into the culture on the USA Network, Royal Pain. Have you ever seen this program? I've seen one, I think I had one half episode of Royal Pain. Okay, well, this is the one you didn't see. There you go, so done.

27:10 how's the old man doing better much better it's a good thing you stuck around long enough to see his rash now there's a sentence you just don't hear very often i am curious how maddie got whooping cough and the other kids didn't well teddy and grace were immunized but when maddie was born there was a lot of controversy over immunization so we decided to err on the side of caution right why Why ask a doctor? And Dr. Phillips was susceptible because... Because I've outlived my immunization. Another wonderful byproduct of growing older. But how did Maddie get it in the first place? She could have easily picked it up on one of your off-the-beaten-path adventures. So when do you think she'll be well enough to travel? At least six weeks. I'm afraid your family trip is gonna have to wait. Of course it will. We'll continue our adventure here. All of us. Together. Should be a great adventure. So, tons of little memes in this.

28:00 Just tons. You know, I'm sickened by this clip. It's so first is like why ask your doctor because your doctor knows best then it's like the old geezer because it's basically the grand grandpa he had outlived his immunization for whooping cough. So you so this is a message to you John. We're looking at you. Yeah, son. You got to go back and get some shots against whooping cough. You gotta get your shot. Really? You gotta get your shot. And then it's like, well, you know, you can't travel. Six weeks you can't travel. That... Slave? Yeah, exactly. Slave. You cannot travel, slave. It's bad, right? It's terrible. Yeah.

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

Superbug Spread, Wales Mass Fatality Planning

News of a "superbug" spreading from India to Canada via medical tourism is discussed alongside a Freedom of Information report from Wales. The report reveals the Welsh government prepared mass fatality plans for 40,000 swine flu victims, including the identification of mass grave sites and the commissioning of simple coffins.

canada· wales· world health organization· swine flu· mass graves

28:45 I didn't know and I'm sorry we started doing the show even though it's late. We should have yeah well I'll just finish up because you know the good would just bring out the last depressing piece of information you dug up this week. Okay well no this is just staying on this vaccine stuff so the super bug that was found in the United Kingdom due to medical tourism. Oh yeah I forgot about that whatever happened to that guy. Well, no, it's now spread to Canada. So now it's been found in Canada in someone who actually had some medical work done in India. So, you know, this is, you got to stay here and you got to, you know, the insurance companies have to soak you here and you can't go anywhere else. It's got to all happen here. And in Wales, news now leaks out that the Welsh government was so worried about the pandemic

29:37 that they had actually prepared mass graves for 40,000 people. It's not like they have closed those graves up by the way. Really? Part of the Wales Mass Fatalities Plan, this was acquired under freedom of information request and of course this is all coming out days after the flu pandemic has been deemed no longer a pandemic by the World Health Organization. but they essentially expected, well they actually have the number, 37,074 victims of the Welsh population to die of swine flu. As we know that was a big scam and there was all kinds of insider stuff at the WHO who had links to the pharmaceutical companies and the document says Welsh councils were in the process of identifying areas that offer cooling, security and dignified storage.

30:38 How dumb are some of these governments? No wonder the, yeah, I think the will should reevaluate their leadership. It also suggested local joinery firms could be commissioned to construct simple coffins in the event of a coffin shortage or if the event is extreme, body bags could be used instead. Yeah, but just open the Canadian Indian reservation. Just some hefty bags, man. Just throw the slaves in some bags. Just, So but it's not like the plan is still there because you know obviously obviously it can it can come back at the drop of a hat Can happen any moment now any man? You know we're working on them. They're working on a better version of that bug now in a lab someplace Oh, yeah, well, they're mixing it with the h5. That's what they really want. Yeah, they're mixing with it with the bird flu absolutely Yeah, it'll happen. It's just a matter of time don't take those shots people so

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Bedbug Media Frenzy, Mattress Industry Marketing

The hosts examine the sudden explosion of media reports regarding bedbug infestations in movie theaters and classrooms. They suggest the mattress industry may be funding the PR campaign to encourage consumers to replace their mattresses every seven years, despite a lack of evidence that age correlates with infestation.

bedbugs· mattress industry· news cycle· public relations· feeding frenzy

31:35 On a similar note, we went to the theater. Why do we actually do this show? We just sit here and piss each other off. Bedbugs Attack, play it. Oh, hold on a second, I wasn't prepared for that. It's a teaser. Ooh, nice. Yeah, I've actually seen some of these reports. Coming up, it's a feeding frenzy on the move. Bed bugs are giving people nightmares. Over the last 10 years, their population has been exploding. Tonight, we know why the insects are crawling out of beds and into movie theaters, classrooms, and more. I've seen a couple of these and they feel itchy. Yeah, and I've seen a couple of these I think the mattress industry is behind this I'm wondering who's behind it because there's somebody behind it. There's too much of this publicity It's making this huge threat in me. Yeah, maybe there's bedbugs all over the place but they they seem to be getting a lot the bed bugs seem to have a PR agency working for them and

32:30 Yeah, well not the bed bugs per se but I could be I keep seeing local unconscious. You don't know what I keep seeing local news reports Showing mattresses. Oh, you should get a mattress new mattress every seven years and the idea de yada like man, okay There's no bed bugs in the mattress after six years and there's no bed bugs in the mattress after seven years Why would you get a new one? Why take a chance? Yeah, well But there's a lot of stuff going on. There's that, there's the egg recall, half a billion eggs recalled! And this is the one that, and I figured it out, I mean this is very obvious, this is just to make you afraid of your eggs and to force small farms out of business.

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Salmonella Egg Recall, CDC Podcast Critique

A massive recall of half a billion eggs from Wright County Egg in Galt, Iowa, is analyzed as a potential move to consolidate the industry and eliminate small farmers. The hosts play a CDC podcast about egg safety, mocking its scripted nature and the government's advice to avoid "dirty eggs" and use pasteurized products.

salmonella· iowa· fda· cdc· wright county egg

33:19 and the CDC is on this well they've already done that in California the small egg farmers in California they used to produce eggs for the local markets I mean there did of course none of these places we're talking about are that small they have you know hundreds of thousands of chickens yeah we are the real small farmer to have you know a few dozen chickens and sell to his local to his pals but this small a farmer in California has been run out of business basically and I think in many states has been basically run out of business by environmental laws and you can't do this, you can't do that, cruelty to animal laws, all these kind of laws against doing just about anything a commercial egg layer needs to do. And so they've all moved to Iowa where nobody cares. Most of the big production is there. That's why we have eggs. You know, they say a lot of the poison eggs were in California. Why are they coming from Iowa? I thought we're supposed to eat local.

34:11 uh... so anyway so the safe way in all these change houses eggs from iowa so the whole thing is that it just designed to create these massive companies yet you know that there'd be acres and acres of chickens laying eggs and then shipping and shipping a dozen a sedina a dozen of these cheap crappy eggs cost about you know A buck fifty? Or, you know, they're almost next to nothing. I think they're like two dollars for eighteen eggs at Costco. And it's like, how do you, can you afford to have the chickens, lay the eggs, put the eggs in the packaging, put them in a truck, haul the truck all the way to California, put them in a store and sell them for a buck fifty?

34:50 What's wrong with this picture? These eggs must be garbage. But also, they make it so I'm looking at the CDC, I'm looking at the FDA, and I'm looking at foodsafety.gov and they're literally talking about a salmonella outbreak like this is some monkey virus or something. First of all, here's a tip, don't lick raw chicken. It's never been a good idea. You know, the salmonella is inherent to this poultry and you need to cook your eggs. You need to cook it. When you cook it, then you kill it. Then you kill the bacteria. They're saying nothing new here except, well, you know, a runny egg could get it. Possibly, possibly, mind you, they say possibly hundreds of people of half a billion eggs, possibly hundreds of people are affected by the salmonella outbreak. Oh, you might not even know it. You may just not feel good for 24 hours. And then they have a podcast. A podcast. Listen to this.

35:51 This podcast is presented by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. CDC. Safer, healthier people. Hi, I'm Jennifer Mitchell. With me today is Dr. Casey Barton-Berevish, a veterinary epidemiologist at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. We are discussing ways to reduce your risk of getting a salmonella infection from eggs. Welcome Dr. Barton Beravich. Thanks Jennifer, it's a pleasure to be here. Welcome John, how are you today? I am good. It is a pleasure to have you on the program. It is absolutely fantastic. So it's completely scripted. It's funny when you listen to it actually. It's just funny.

36:36 And it's just fear, uncertainty and doubt. It's what the software industry, computer industry uses all the time. Or used to use. Used to be effective. You know, almost any place in the country you go, there's somebody selling fresh eggs from their own chickens. Yeah. Well, they should be encouraged. Well. They actually did I was gonna say they actually say if the eggs are dirty don't eat them Oh, that's bull crap all eggs are rich when a chicken lays the egg. It's dirty I know I know it's a dirty egg because it comes out of the butthole I don't know if it comes out of the same orifice really yeah Wow well, that's that's awkward oh

37:17 Yeah, well so the chicken's got some chicken shit on it or the egg's got some chicken shit on it generally. I thought it came out of a different orifice and there was just like some extra, you know, like I squeezed an egg out and I pooped a bit on it. Nope. So it actually comes out of the poop hole. It's a dual purpose hole. It's a three input chicken. This is awesome. That's why it's covered with chicken shit. I mean what other reason? So it said don't eat dirty eggs, like don't eat the brown acid, don't eat dirty eggs. Seriously, they're saying do not eat dirty eggs. Well, you shouldn't eat it. Well, generally speaking, when you have a lot of eggs and you have your own chickens, the eggs are not all of them by the way. So once it was a real clean egg laying around, but just generally a little grimy, you'd put them in some water and you soak them and then you scrub out. You try not to screw. There's also a little weird coating that's on the egg that seals it.

38:06 that you don't want to scrub off, so you don't want to use soap or anything, but you just want to scrub off the chicken shit. Yeah, of course. And then the eggs, and you put the eggs in a carton, put them in the refrigerator, and they're good to go. After a few days, you cannot eat a fresh egg. Restaurants are now being strongly advised to use pasteurized eggs in any and all recipes. Oh, that's disgusting. Yeah. What does that mean? What's it do? Just make a hard-cooked egg. Yeah. So, actually, I think what this is, okay, here's where, here we go. I'm getting it now. I'm getting the... It's Salmonella Entertitis. I'm getting it. I'm getting what we're headed for. Here, CDC outbreak investigation of Salmonella Entertitis. Outbreak. It's an outbreak. We've got chicken shit making you sick. I've got who's behind it. Okay.

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

Food Irradiation Industry, Gamma Radiation Sterilization

The discussion shifts to the use of gamma radiation for food sterilization, a process often labeled as ultra-pasteurization. While acknowledging the process is technically safe, the hosts argue it allows industrial food producers to maintain filthy facilities because radiation kills all bacteria, effectively forcing consumers to eat "sterilized" waste.

gamma radiation· ultra-pasteurization· food safety· beef industry· galt iowa

38:55 There's a number of large corporations that make gamma radiation equipment that is used to sterilize food. And it's been a known fact that the public, unfortunately, gamma radiation is pretty safe in terms of like, it's not, you know, it doesn't irradiate anything, it just kills anything living. And it also alters, maybe alters enzymes and does things like that. Isn't that what they use at the airport to scan you? No. God no. It dropped like a fly. So gamma radiation has been used in Europe a lot. When you buy milk or dairy products, they say ultra-pasteurized. That's what pasteurization is? They nuke it? Yeah. Ultra-pasteurization is a process of nuking it with gamma radiation from one of these pieces of equipment, very expensive gear. And the food goes in, it gets nuked, and then it comes out and it doesn't have any... All living things that have anything associated with that food are dead.

39:49 it but the food is not radioactive but the industry for years has been you know it is there's a battery has a bad rap because you know it's got big radiation signs all over the place and the people think that if they irradiate the food in this kind of come out radioactive and glowing is going to give you no cancer which is not going to do I mean not from radiation that's for sure so they've been trying to scared the public as much as possible into adopting these pieces of equipment. It would be perfect for the egg industry, and the beef industry wants to use it. And I always thought that the best way to sterilize things is to let this gamma radiation stuff come through. But then I slowly realized, and it's the same thing with raw milk.

40:33 Mm-hmm. I slowly realized that if you let Like the beef industry for example, and I saw I'm against the radiation. Yeah, I would I would understand that yeah I'm against the radiation for the reason is that if you let these guys Irradiate everything and kill everything you're gonna be eating shit literally yeah, because they're dead. It's dead the food is dead yeah The food's dead. Well, the food is dead, A, but the fact is they don't give a crap about keeping it clean. If it falls on the ground and lands in a cow turd, what difference does it make? It's going to go through the radiation gear. Nobody's going to get sick. They're just going to be eating shit. You're just eating carbon, essentially. Dead carbon. No, you're not eating dead carbon. There's no difference in the protein structure after it goes through the radiator or radiation device. The radiator.

41:22 So it's a safe process, except the problem is it'll give these unclean facilities too much leeway and we'll be eating, literally eating crap. So the way they determine this is they have an epidemic curve, better known as the EPI curve. And between May 1st and July 31st, 2010, a total of 1,953 illnesses were reported. However, some of these cases may not be related to this outbreak. The word outbreak pisses me off. Based on the previous five years of reports, we would expect approximately 700 illnesses during the same period. So it's doubled to, or more than doubled to 1,900. So then all of a sudden it's like, recall the eggs, outbreak, outbreak, warning, warning.

42:14 Well, anyway, something fishy is going on. I believe it's the radiation industry. I do like that the firm is Wright County Egg located in Galt, Iowa. That's just a nice little extra tidbit they throw in there. You know that it's just doing it just to piss us off. You know, there's a bumper sticker you see in the Midwest every so often that says, where is Galt? Yeah. And it refers to both the book and the town. You mean the Gulch? The Gulch? Galt's Gulch. I've never seen it said any Gulch. No, but that's... well, Galt's... it's... Galt is not a town in Atlas Shrugged. It's... No, no, but Galt's a town in Iowa. Right. Whatever. Anyway. Yeah, I've never been there. So anyway, that's nice. No more egg. No egg for you, slave! Shut up! Well, they don't want, you know... And there's... Have a good egg vendor here in the Bay Area that does a Japanese egg...

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

Circumcision Rate Decline, CDC Policy Shifts

The hosts discuss reports indicating a decline in U.S. circumcision rates and a subsequent push by the CDC to promote the practice. They express skepticism toward clinical trials in Sub-Saharan Africa claiming circumcision reduces HIV transmission by 60%, suggesting the push may be tied to medical billing under the Affordable Care Act.

circumcision· cdc· hiv· washington state· obamacare

43:12 Company and they taste like farm fresh eggs or dynamite. I've never had as a good as good an egg And unfortunately the packaging is all in Japanese so I go to I'm checking out and I said I wanted to translate there's all this Japanese all over the friend and the woman at the counter She looks at it. She looks and she says I said what does that mean? What does that mean? She says? fresh eggs That's what it says. There's another weird thing that is popping up on the news about circumcision in the United States, John. I haven't seen too many reports. I see a report about that every so often. Well there was a new report that came out a couple days ago saying that the U.S. circumcision rates are on the decline and there's a new push for circumcision in Washington for some reason.

44:06 They'll be Washington State actually I should say And yeah, that is kind of weird that these you know and actually this report so they're they're saying well in in Sub-Sahara Africa Clinical trials and I don't understand how this works It sounds like total crap show that circumcised men were 60% less likely to acquire HIV Like that does to acquire HIV if you I mean aren't isn't that the giving portion? And not the receiving. It's like how do they come up with these statistics and it's the CDC again? Yeah, something's up with the CDC. They're trying to push the public. They got agendas. I don't know. I'll keep it out. I haven't heard that. I've got a place in Washington. I haven't heard that. The only thing I can think is that this is part of Obamacare and they want to make sure that they're doing more cutting. Yeah, that could be. You know? More money. Yeah, more money. That's the only thing I can think of. Just like wow, this is pretty weird.

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Nokia E71 Hardware Failure, Software Update Issues

A host describes the total failure of a Nokia E71 mobile phone following a botched software update. The discussion critiques Nokia's PC-based software loader and the general decline of the company's hardware reliability, suggesting they should return to manufacturing boots and tires.

nokia e71· software loader· hardware failure· reboot loop· mobile phones

45:07 So you know we can we got the spreadsheet so I think we should probably get because we have to not do our executive producers And thank yous yes, I think we should do them side by side so You want to do it now. We just do everything all in one go I think we yeah, I think we should do that all in one go well right at the problem is this has been a failed day by the way I wanted to discuss this before I get going which is the My E71 Nokia phone has failed, my favorite phone. It just reboots itself constantly. I mean it comes on for a while, I can make a call and then all of a sudden it reboots. Did you install any software?

45:44 I tried to do an upgrade sometime back. There you go. Fool. Yeah, seems to be part of the problem. Did you have to get that crazy Nokia software loader that you load on your PC and then you have to connect the cable? My wife has another Nokia phone and she could never get the thing to work. That software loader is the worst thing imaginable. They should just go back to making boots and tires. They should give up. They may have to. And fishing material. I'm sorry to say it, they fail. Complete fail. Except for the throwaway phones that they supply all of Africa with I guess that's good still yeah, so so that was that failed Comcast failed what else failed There was some other thing that happened. It was like another fail. Oh, yeah the PayPal so PayPal I have to you know we're trying to do these thank-yous so I send the CSV file over to Eric and he really says that the that the comments all the comments of people's it didn't come through at all and

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, No Agenda Coin Shipping

The hosts read the executive producer credits for the week, thanking Sir Paul Couture and Jacob Smith. They announce that No Agenda challenge coins will ship at the end of August and acknowledge various "Double Nickels on the Dime" contributors. One donor, Chris Lindhartsen, contributed based on losing 52 pounds of weight.

sir paul couture· jacob smith· no agenda coins· weight loss· donations

46:43 Which makes no sense because it's part of the file does somebody put a really long one in but I didn't see it Which sometimes screws things up? So that's another one. So I figured this is just a fiasco of a day and Yeah Okay, so we don't have any comments that sucks. No, I can go and pull them off the real original file Oh, so so what you did is when you say to PayPal send me an XLS file That's when it didn't sent they didn't spit out the comments. That's what you mean. Yeah So let's thank our executive producers in this case. We've got Sir Paul Couture of course at the top of the list. Yeah and he has a comment. He says, this is for executive producer credit this week holding back reserve blah blah blah from the coins. Mention that the coins will be shipped to those that order on the 30th and 31st of August. Nice. And ask people that want a second coin design contact him and ask people that want a second coin I think is what he's meant, designed.

47:43 uh... contact webmaster at no agenda community dot com or tweet to no agenda fans right morning so uh... and as you can see is that i do know that i do another's coin different design for a second batch right sentiment note and so you were very appreciative of everything as sir paul couture is done for the show and he gave us uh... absolutely uh... three thirty three thirty three so he's the executive producer and a patron and patron i guess and to say the least and he's uh... given out executive producer himself sir paul couture and then uh... jacob smith from tacoma washington's associate executive producer at two twenty two and uh... i don't have to have a note from him looking at this thing i don't see

48:35 C1 so that's it huh no yeah that's it just the two um he yeah he has a note this is my lucky number 222 in hebrew means the voice of god really yeah you two are the voice of truth oh i was gonna say please you know easy on the god stuff with us i mean we're good we're good we're not that good work with that wasn't the only funny line from the movie last night eat pray love where her marriage is in shambles and she kneels down and she says for the first time in her life she actually prayed to God voiceover and then she says, God, you know, I've never spoken with you before and

49:13 Don't know what to say then I love your work man It's just like a real Hollywood thing if you ever in Hollywood at a party with with the actors or producers anyone in the business They always say hi nice to meet you. Yeah, I really love your work I do that too. I really admire your work and I was like you've never heard my work douchebag shut up so then we have some regular contributors that we want to mention and including Matthew Carey of Eastwood South Australia. Hello. And we have Chris Engler, Double Niggles on the Dime, Milton Ontario, Christopher Descato.

49:52 Las Vegas double nickels on the dime Trent Phillips Kilbourne South Australia a lot of Aussies this we did well that they're in dire straits down there because Their elections are almost yeah, they're all messed up double nickels on the dime Scott Williams Miramar, Florida $50 and Chris Lindhartsen from Where is he from? Richland Washington he gave us 5220 and he says he wants to give a douchebag call out to the real at the real Canadian. Okay. Douchebag! Yeah for reasons I just guess he doesn't donate but he gave us 5220 because that's how much weight he lost in the last number of months. So that's a new angle. Is that stone? 52 stone or 52 pounds? No, 52 pounds. Okay. So I think that's another possible excuse to donate.

50:46 Give us your weight loss. Oh, yeah, a weight gain is good, too. Either one. Either one is okay. We're okay with it. Let me just see if there's any comments here that I can pull off the main sheet. Let's see we got Trent Phillips says hello. He's treating myself to a de-douching for his birthday on the 23rd. He just voted in the Australia federal election. Let's just say that no matter what happens we are fucked either way. Keep up the good work, Trent. It's interesting, you know, although I normally would since it's a kind of messed up day anyway, there is something very nasty happening. There's this guy Alan Milburn who was in the UK and in 2003 he resigned. He was a minister, a member, he was a minister

CHAPTER 15 / 31 Discussion

Alan Milburn Pedophilia Allegations, Australian Election Ballot

The hosts discuss the controversial political career of Alan Milburn, a UK minister who resigned amid allegations involving a young boy and subsequently moved to Australia. They also comment on the diverse political parties appearing on the Australian federal election ballot, including the Sex Party and the Climate Skeptics Party.

alan milburn· australia· david cameron· sex party· climate skeptics

51:39 and he resigned because there was this article that was printed that he had a 12 year old boy from Clapham South called Sean who was his pet, his boy toy essentially. And so he resigned and then he pops up in Australia first as an advisor to Kevin Rudd in 2007 and now we learn that he's set to Become I think the mobility czar back in David Cameron's government. This guy is like a total pedo bear and he's he's bopping back and forth between Australia and the UK I guess skirting the law and and you know so they've got all these weirdos who are trying to get into government in Australia and

52:32 And it's frightening. And people are in disarray there. They just had Rudd resign, they got Gillian in, Jillian Gillian, whatever her name is. And now, although it's kind of funny, when you look at the ballot for Gitmo Nation down under, they've got the Australian Sex Party, the... what is this other party? I have a picture of it actually. The Climate Skeptics Party. It's all on the ballot, which is kind of cool. Are you still there? Yeah, no, I was just listening to that. It's kind of weird I don't know what's going on in Australia But I guess we have to start addressing it because it doesn't seem to be heading in the right direction No, no, I'm all over it and I'm happy that our friends and get mode down under our are helping us out supporting the show So send us some your producers as well. You know, you're not just supporters. You've got to send us information I'm looking you Maynard

53:24 So Trent Phillips and another one is Scott Williams needed de-douching. Scott says he shrieks of vinegar. I don't know what that means. Alright, here you go, Scott. You've been de-douched. I think you do understand the pun there. Huh? Anyway, so the others if there's other notes in there I we missed them because of the nature of the day It's just just this is just a fail day. So it's just the way it goes I do have an idea So first of all Dvorak org slash na please show your support with either a one-time donation There's a couple of campaigns of programs you can get on if you go to the page, which is also linked from no agenda show calm but

54:05 But even joining up for a $5 a month subscription really helps that that sustains if you are a $5 a month subscriber and supporter of the show check it to make sure your Your donation is still going through PayPal has this nasty habit of not only dropping your notes and your comments but unsubscribing you from the program and I had an idea John because you were talking about The magic date 10 10 10 which is just around the corner, right? It's not gonna happen again for a long time Right, and it's a very very lucky date. It's considered a Very lucky date in was it China China? Yeah, so I was thinking about you know, is there any karma in this for us now? We're not Chinese. So that clearly doesn't work and then it hit me 10 10 10 is binary for 42

CHAPTER 16 / 31 Discussion

The 10-10-10 Fundraiser, Numerology of 42

Adam Curry proposes a major fundraising event for October 10, 2010 (10-10-10), noting that the date is binary for 42. Referencing The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the hosts discuss the mathematical and cultural significance of the number 42, planning a special $42 donation drive to coincide with the Sunday broadcast.

10-10-10· hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy· binary· wolfram alpha· numerology

53:24 So Trent Phillips and another one is Scott Williams needed de-douching. Scott says he shrieks of vinegar. I don't know what that means. Alright, here you go, Scott. You've been de-douched. I think you do understand the pun there. Huh? Anyway, so the others if there's other notes in there I we missed them because of the nature of the day It's just just this is just a fail day. So it's just the way it goes I do have an idea So first of all Dvorak org slash na please show your support with either a one-time donation There's a couple of campaigns of programs you can get on if you go to the page, which is also linked from no agenda show calm but

54:05 But even joining up for a $5 a month subscription really helps that that sustains if you are a $5 a month subscriber and supporter of the show check it to make sure your Your donation is still going through PayPal has this nasty habit of not only dropping your notes and your comments but unsubscribing you from the program and I had an idea John because you were talking about The magic date 10 10 10 which is just around the corner, right? It's not gonna happen again for a long time Right, and it's a very very lucky date. It's considered a Very lucky date in was it China China? Yeah, so I was thinking about you know, is there any karma in this for us now? We're not Chinese. So that clearly doesn't work and then it hit me 10 10 10 is binary for 42

55:01 And 42, anyone should know that according to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the number 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything. So I'm thinking maybe we can set up some massive extra karma on this fantastically special date and everyone can get in on the action by donating $42. And then I start to do some research on 42. This is an amazing number. We do a lot with numerology, 33, the threes are always important. But 42 is, mathematically, it's a very interesting number, a primary pseudo-perfect number. It is, let's see, it is the perfect score on the USA Math Olympiad. It is the expected number of throws

55:58 Until two sixes show up successfully for the first time it is Well, of course 42 is in ASCII is asterix the asterix commonly known as the wild card I mean, this is a I never knew this about 42. In fact, I'm thinking of getting a 42 tattoo. I think you should 42 is the result given by Wolfram, Alpha, Google and Microsoft's Bing when the query is entered, the answer to life, the universe and everything else. In astronomy, there's lots of 42s. In religion, 42 is the number with which God creates the universe in Kabbalistic tradition. 42 appears in various contexts in Christianity, in Judaism. But of course, screw all that, it's in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. That's what it is.

56:52 Allison Wonderland has 42 illustrations. I'm searching now Well, I think we should document all this put it on a page and we're do our 10 10 10 special Will you put that on the page so we can contribution? Yeah, yeah, it should be I think we should do like I say you should have a page dedicated to it I know that should be that's a good idea. Well. There's a huge wiki page which is just unbelievable. I had no idea take yeah, okay We'll take we'll take this generously from the page, it's a wiki page, and we'll make it our autumn promotion, fund drive, fundraising drive, using this 42B and target everything for 10-10-10 day. I like it. I like it. What's 10-10-10? What days of the week is that? Oh, um... Let's take a look. Yeah, I don't have a calendar open. 10-10 is, guess what?

57:50 It's a Sunday. Yep. Cool. Oh my god. That's a good omen, John. That is a good omen. So we can do the show. We'll do a special 10-10-10 show. 40 Second Street. Bring a Chinese mystic on. 40 Second Street, lots of hookers and blow. That's good luck. This is really bad. There's so many references to 42. Level 42. Oh man, 42. It's just an amazing number.

58:27 I think we need the Jeff Smiths or Jeff Smith to do a song for us. A 42 tune or something. Okay, so you'll get a donation button up for the Lucky 42 Super Karma, which will pay off for you on 10-10-10, which is a Sunday. It couldn't get any better than that. I didn't even realize that. That is awesome. All right, so back to the show, but before we do that we should one more plug out there Dvorak org slash na Channel Dvorak comm slash na and no agenda show calm will get you to one of the donation sites. It's a beautiful thing So anyway, let's see what we got. Well, you got some clips and I got a couple other things Let's take a look at these clothes maybe Oh, yeah, just kind of like kind of real news, but not real enough to play the jingle. I

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

Jennifer Aniston "R-Word" Controversy, Media Outrage

Actress Jennifer Aniston faced backlash after using a slur on Live with Regis and Kelly to describe her profession. The hosts argue that the media figures and advocacy groups expressing outrage are the ones truly deserving of the label, contrasting them with the genuine achievements of Special Olympics athletes.

jennifer aniston· regis and kelly· cnn· special olympics· political correctness

59:19 uh... if you have well we have some sort of a level of real news yeah we do have a lot we do have kind of a level here's a here's what happened you know so we we had the n word discussion with doctor laura slessinger a couple days ago and uh... actually had some good email conversation with people uh... really appreciate all the feedback people gave both positive negative but you know there was no hate in those lot of uh... they're just good discussion which always like seeing but uh... then this pops up this week Jennifer Aniston and the R word. If you don't know what I'm talking about, take a listen to what she said. She was on live with Regis and Kelly. She's talking about her issue in Harper's Bazaar, a photo shoot where she was posing to look like Barbra Streisand. Take a listen.

1:00:02 That's one of her classic poses and that is Jennifer Aniston. It was all these fun wigs and it was, you know, that funny girl. And so it was just like, it was just fun. You played dress up. I played dress up. I do it for a living like a retard. Yeah, she said it and you can hear it. Yeah, you know the audience didn't respond. Regis and the co-hosts, they didn't respond. But people, they are responding. Advocacy groups are saying it was extraordinarily offensive and inappropriate. And she's been in the headlines a lot. I mean this Bill O'Reilly thing with her saying, you know, this is the new form of mothers referencing to the movie The Switch. Which comes out this weekend, right? So all this publicity. Because it kind of reminds me of what President Barack Obama said about

1:00:43 special things make a point was on board and i thought i was a little less than a half hour and thirty people say a lot but she is under a lot of criticism right now yeah he's a so she's got uh... movie coming out so this is of course we're actually really good but uh... you know the people from our word dot org you know, they're calling him out and I'm thinking this is actually really good because the people who are talking about this on CNN, local news, they are retards. The people who look at this news and think this is news, you know, you put actual retards to shame. They're smart. They're out there in the Special Olympics like doing shit.

CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Kardashian Family Alcoholism Narrative, Larry King Interview

The hosts critique a Larry King interview featuring the Kardashian family, focusing on a narrative about Scott Disick's alleged alcoholism. They suggest the therapy sessions filmed for the reality show are staged and part of a broader "neo-prohibitionist" media trend.

kardashians· larry king· bruce jenner· kris jenner· scott disick

1:01:24 Everyone else is a retard sitting there going, oh wow, you know, there's 50,000 troops left but the combat troops are out and we're there because of some lies from some more retards in Congress who lied about weapons of mass destruction and we're there to protect the Iraqis. I'm telling you, we are retards. We are more retarded than the people, the Special Olympics people are brilliant compared to us. They're smart. Play it, play it, play it, play it, play it, the pet peeve theme. Yeah, here we go. I don't see the currency of the day. I did have it kind of clipped into the showbiz tonight thing. I have a clip that mentions it, but it doesn't go into it. Well, should we have a listen? I just thought the whole thing was pretty lame. Let's go to some... Do I have any real news? I don't think so. Oh yeah, I do. There's a thing going on... Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. And now, back to real news. Okay. Oh, well, we're gonna go to the real, real news. Yeah. We're getting the neo-prohibitionist...

1:02:43 The demon drink again with the Kardashians you might want to play that oh, oh boy Do I know about this it was just Larry King by any chance yeah? Whatever you got They're kidding. Yes. Bruce, you... No, I'm a beer... I have one beer is my limit. I'm not... I don't really drink. I've been married to him for 20 years and I don't think I've ever seen you buzzed. No. Ever. And a great word, buzz, by the way. What a great new episode. I'm not even drinking currently. Hey, Bruce. Being a mother, has it changed your desire for alcohol? I'm still breastfeeding.

1:03:19 So that solves that which is a lovely visual by the way, thank you Do I really have to listen to all of this no no they go back into the alcohol thing again it's a Lopez's perhaps the worst interviewer in the world he makes nothing but a Kind of lewd sexual in you and yeah, it's like oh, that's a great visual. I'm thinking of your breast It's so sleazy, and he's got a sleazy look he just looks like he's greasy. He's a douchebag so Mickey follows This is like her crack she follows the Kardashian shows And I can't help but watch because you know immediately you're into Alpha State. No I can't you shoot yourself I might have to

1:04:05 But we had this discussion just the other day. I said, you know, I don't even believe that her husband is an alcoholic. I don't believe it at all. He's in some fake therapy with a fake therapist. What kind of therapist lets him film, lets him actually tape the therapy session? Where he's going like, well, you know, you have to give yourself permission to heal. It's like bullshit. I think the whole thing, particularly the drinking thing with Scott, her husband, is fake. But the movement continues John because now everywhere I'm seeing drunk driving ads with motorcycles. Have you noticed this? No, not here. Oh yeah, no. This is the sound of a popular American motorcycle. It's the sound of freedom, the open road, really good times. And this is what it sounds like with a drunk guy on it.

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Drunk Motorcycling PSA, Colorado Alcohol Violations

The U.S. Department of Transportation released a public service announcement targeting drunk motorcycle riders. A listener from Colorado writes in to report that over one-third of the state's population has an alcohol violation, alleging that trial lawyers and interlock companies are lobbying for increased penalties to maintain a "crime industry."

department of transportation· motorcycles· colorado· madd· guardian interlock

1:05:02 How do you like the sound of that? Cops are cracking down on drunk motorcycle riders. If you ride drunk, you will get caught and you will get arrested. Drunk riding. Over the limit, under arrest. Paid for by the U.S. Department of Transportation. It's like, why is the U.S. Department of Transportation wasting the taxpayers' money on this? Because apparently there's an epidemic of drunk motorcyclists out there. You know all the things in the world you want to do on a motorcycle is drive drunk I don't I mean I this just sounds like I don't think it's true. I don't think maybe there's something coming against motorcycles now Maybe there's probably by the way that doesn't sound like a Harley

1:05:43 Just want to say I know sounds pretty good. It sounded more like a rice burner one of those fake like Honda things It's supposed to look like a Harley much attention to it slave mark from Colorado writes in and says, I've been amazed the greed of the crime industry supported by government to keep us slaves in line. In Colorado over one-third of our population has an alcohol violation. One-third. Now you can get two days of mandatory jail for having one drink and walking to your car with your keys in your hand. The trial lawyers, interlock companies such as Guardian, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, BI and others snuck through increased penalties a few months ago But of course the sheeple don't care. Anyway, Mark lives just a few miles from, uh, B.I.

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Colorado Police Brutality, Dog Walker Assault Video

A viral video from Colorado shows two police officers assaulting a man who was walking his dog. The man had reportedly offered to testify on behalf of a driver the officers had pulled over. The hosts describe the footage of the officers beating the man and note they were placed on administrative leave with full pay.

colorado· police brutality· taser· dog walker· viral video

1:06:28 Bi.com and he's gonna go record know if the people in Colorado are Essentially under attack by their own government if go to the blog Dvorak that org slash blog and look back a few days And you'll find if you haven't seen the the two cops who beat the crap out of some dog walker. Yeah This guy's walking his dog casually across the you know across the Like a little bridge And these two cops pull over some guy, supposedly, and the guy's within earshot of hearing this, these two cops pull over some guy who they claim ran a stop sign. And the guy, the dog walker says, hey, I saw you, you stopped, you didn't run the sign, if you need somebody to testify in court, I'll be there. And they tased him, right? Let me guess, they tased him? No, they just beat the crap out of him. Really? And it's on video? Yeah, sent him to the hospital. Where's the, how did the video get made?

1:07:17 Apparently there's somebody out, you know, that was filming it or it was one of the city videos that somebody got a hold of the tape. I'm not sure. but the video shows a clearly the guy's taking what he took you to two cops could push the guy put push him up against the uh... and kind of the bridge edge in and one of them gives them a need to the growing starts smacking him around and the other guys you know beaten him to answer the two dozen meanwhile christie's cops are still you know they're well you know administrative full pay and well we're looking into it and it did this return is going to do nothing this is a this is a situation happening In Colorado, which has become one of the worst police states. I never liked that state. You know, speaking of video recordings of stuff, so I was watching, I don't know exactly what I was watching, but it was some guy, some retired admiral or general, general, general or colonel, whatever it was, and he was talking about how the war, because of course, you know, now we're out, all combat troops are out. Bullshit.

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Iraq War Combat Troop Withdrawal, Staged Military Footage

The hosts question the official narrative regarding the withdrawal of combat troops from Iraq. They analyze high-quality footage of IED explosions shown on CNN, questioning who filmed the incidents. They also play a clip of soldiers in identical, professionally lit "Army" t-shirts, characterizing the entire war as a scam to upgrade military hardware.

iraq war· combat troops· ied· colin powell· military infrastructure

1:08:12 and he was talking about how the war in Iraq basically upgraded our military infrastructure. We went in with poor flak jackets, now we got great flak jackets. We went in with shitty cars and trucks and tanks and now we got fantastic armored vehicles because of all these IEDs. And then they're showing all this footage and it's shot from a hilltop and you see like a tank move along and boom, it blows up with an IED. Then you see a personnel carrier, it's like boom, it blows up with an IED. Who's filming this? And how is that video getting on to CNN? And it looks to me like it's military footage. Are they just sitting there waiting for something to blow up or is it staged? I mean it doesn't look... I have no idea. I would guess staged in some instances. It's not shaky cam Al-Qaeda shit. That's not what it is. I mean it's like static, it's there, it's pointed, it's like right in the road and then you know a jeep comes along and boom it blows up. You know it's a shocking sight. I'm just like who is filming this? Where does this video come from?

1:09:10 The Al Qaeda posted it on the web somewhere, it's pretty good quality. Yeah, it seems unlikely. Well, you know, there's a lot of set up stuff going on. We were watching a news report last night and the clip here is troops. and it was showing a bunch of guys what they think about now leaving and this was so staged and the guys are so stupid it was weird the guys were there were three different guys and they were there were standing there extremely well let professionally lit in the middle of nowhere's ill and he's three of the history of the three guys had the exact same t-shirt on that was a great t-shirt that said army across the front

1:09:47 the kind you can buy in, you know, different places. Right. Do they have makeup on as well? I would think so. Yeah. But listen to this little report and listen to the one guy who's just, I mean, I don't know why they couldn't find somebody that could actually be, could enunciate. and then again to train Iraqi forces last year. It's all excitement, just one more step to get home. We came, we saw, we helped people, and now I feel good. It's been a reward to see the Iraqis really take things on their own. This boggles the mind! We went into Iraq because Colin Powell held up like a biological vial of stuff of anthrax and there was weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was a horrible guy, and now we came, we saw, we helped people?

1:10:34 Vainy VD we help people. I feel good. I mean I'm sorry I mean our servicemen and women have been hoodwinked. You've been put in harm's way by bastards who are just out there to make more money on building more crap and oh we have to get a better we have to we have to manufacture better vehicles we need better flak jackets it was a scam. From beginning to end and no one is saying anything about it. I actually woke up at like 2 this morning and this got me all riled up. I was thinking about this like, Jesus! You know like, we were there to help people. What are we helping? Stupid! It's ridiculous. It's inhumane.

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Obama's Religion Polls, Ground Zero Mosque Distraction

Public opinion polls show a significant number of Americans believe President Barack Obama is a Muslim. The hosts argue this is a media distraction from the "Ground Zero Mosque" controversy. They mock a Fox News report that cites Obama eating ice cream during Ramadan as evidence of his faith, while suggesting he is likely an agnostic.

barack obama· ramadan· jeremiah wright· fox news· ground zero mosque

1:11:18 So there's a couple other things going on besides the crazy war. And of course, the big news this week, and I have no, actually I had one clip and I decided, I didn't even send it over, which I might send over later, because it's kind of weird clip from Donald Trump. But the big news this week, of course, was triggered, and we talked about it when it first broke. We didn't think much, it wasn't gonna make mainstream at all. It's the G word. What's the G word? Oh, this is not Geraldo. No, I got a Geraldo thing. Okay, then what was uh, no, no that's over Lockerbie bomber. No, no, I don't have the clip I told you yeah, you got the Lockerbie bomber clips. No, I don't have the clip of what I'm talking about. Oh, okay. Sorry the mosque. Oh, there is no mosque and so the There is no mosque at ground zero it's a community center, so they This was

1:12:13 This has got completely out of control. It is completely, it's ruining both right-wing talk radio and left-wing talk radio and the news and the CNN and Fox and everything in between because it's all anyone's talking about. And I find it just ridiculous because of the, you know, it's just going to happen, whatever happens is going to be localized anyway. So anyway, so we avoided that even though we were on it way before anybody else. And so the next thing that's coming up, the kind of, the Moss thing is kind of morphed a little bit, especially with Fox News, into this new meme that Obama is not a Christian. Right, he's a Muslim. Yeah, well, there, there, nobody actually wants to say he's a Muslim and nobody really thinks he is. And so we got this really, this is a very long clip, but it's worth listening because there's a number of little nuggets, nuggets all throughout it. And this is the Obama's not a Christian report.

1:13:03 About how you know that so we were talking about this by the way last night, and it was what is Obama? He's not a Christian. He's not a Muslim He's a he's either an agnostic or an atheist, and he just doesn't want to admit it He's a Hawaiian there you go play there Bob. He has seeped into the president's political base now less than half of Democrats say the president is a Christian less than half of African Americans say the president is a Christian less than half of people who give Obama positive job approval ratings say he's a Christian. In Washington, of the 12 people who talked to a Fox News crew, eight called the president a Christian, three Ron Schuer, one labeled him a Muslim. There's no practical demonstration of that fact that he is anything other than Christian. There's no question or doubt about it that he's Christian. The American public would like to know a little

1:13:56 Wait a minute, did he just say incorrectly? incorrectly that he's not a Christian. I didn't hear that. Yeah, yeah it just dawned on me listen to this. ...incorrectly and given up on a vow to find... Hold on. No he said incorrectly Muslim. Oh okay well so he's basically saying that he's not a Muslim. It's incorrect. Right. Okay. But 24% believe again incorrectly that he's a Muslim. The president has attended Christian services sparingly and given up on a vow to find a permanent church in Washington.

1:14:51 This after a campaign season decision to quit his Chicago church and sever ties to longtime pastor Jeremiah Wright. Mr. Obama now prefers private Christian services at Camp David. Also, Mr. Obama plays a lot of golf on Sundays. I know he prays at Bohemian Grove. So he said he's got it there's a couple other things that come up you know people golf on Sundays he plays golf on Sundays but he the mention of Jeremiah Wright and this goes that comes up in the conversations that you know all this right had this horrible these horrible anti-american sentiments and Obama was right Obama I don't think ever went to that church I probably showed up once in a while and that was that he's not he doesn't go to church hello

1:15:35 But anyway, there's a funnier nugget coming up just a little further along the line here. Scholars find these new poll numbers baffling. It just seems ridiculous to me that he would be considered a Muslim by anyone. I mean, we're in the middle of Ramadan right now where Muslims are fasting from dawn until dusk and we have our president stuffing his face full of ice cream. In addition to that ample visual evidence, the White House says, the president receives an email, prayer devotional every day. Turkey. Turkeys stuff yeah, so he's anyway the whole thing. It's a distraction John. It's just a distraction This is because these guys are just looking for something that they're just trying to slam this guy But the point is is that Obama brought this on himself by even just saying anything about that that mosque we can to be fair The idea of putting a mosque next to ground zero I think Americans have put a lot of ground zeros next to mosques and

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Obama's Citizens United Speech, Campaign Finance Whining

President Obama delivered a speech on C-SPAN criticizing the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision and "shadowy" corporate interest groups. The hosts dismiss the speech as pathetic whining, pointing out that Democrats controlled the House, Senate, and Executive branch at the time, making his complaints about Republican obstructionism illogical.

barack obama· citizens united· supreme court· republicans· filibuster

1:16:32 Okay, well that's an interesting argument. You should get on one of these shows and say that. Yeah, that'll go a long way. Anyway, somebody pointed out that it looks like Gibbs and Rahm Emanuel and all his advisors have been on vacation for the last week or so and Obama took it upon himself to You know give the pro-mosque speech and then have to back down the next day, and it's just made a botch of it I mean you know the guy should just do some real work and stop yakking about things I can't stop talking so I did watch our president's little show Yesterday I thought the end of it

1:17:12 You caught the end of the... caught the end of it? You mean of his speech to the nation? No, no, the one that... yeah, the little one he does on... On Whitehouse.com. How can you catch the end of it? Is it broadcast anywhere? Is it just... It's on C-SPAN. Oh really? Yeah, I was on C-SPAN 2 I think and I just caught the end of it. And then I got to see some crazy... some guy trying to rebut it. He had nothing to say about what the speech was really about. Well, it was kind of annoying. Maybe we should just listen to a minute or two of it. Because, you know, once again he's like, all he's talking about is Republican bad, Republican stopping me, Republican bad, not good, oh very bad, secret groups. As the political season heats up, Americans are already being inundated with the usual phone calls and mailings and... Yeah, from barackobama.org. That's what I'm getting mailings from. ...ads from campaigns all across the country.

1:18:09 But this summer, they're also seeing a flood of attack ads run by shadowy groups with harmless sounding names. We don't know who's behind these ads and we don't know who's paying for them. That's weird. Is that really true? We don't, we can't find out who's behind the ads? This is bogus! Yeah. You can find out who's doing it. He's got the CIA working for him. He's the president! He's the president. This is whining. This is pathetic. Yeah, it gets worse. The reason this is happening is because of a decision by the Supreme Court in the Citizens United case. A decision that now allows big corporations to spend unlimited amounts of money to influence our elections. Is this maybe, Kagan's already in right? Is she being confirmed? Yeah, she's done. Okay, so alright, so maybe it's just like, oh we're gonna change this, we're gonna put our girl in.

1:18:57 They can buy millions of dollars worth of TV ads. And worst of all, they don't even have to reveal who is actually paying for it. You don't know if it's a foreign controlled corporation. You don't know if it's BP. You don't know if it's a big insurance company. Wall Street Bank. A group can hide behind a phony name like Citizens for a Better Future, even if a more accurate name would be Corporations for Weaker Oversight. We tried to fix this last month.

1:19:36 There was a proposal supported by Democrats and Republicans that would have required corporate political advertisers to reveal who's funding their activities. However, when special interests take to the airwaves, whoever is running and funding the ad would have to appear in the advertisement and take responsibility for it, like a company's CEO or an organization's biggest contributor. And foreign-controlled corporations and entities would be restricted from spending money to influence American elections, just as they were in the past. You would think that making these reforms would be a matter of common sense. Let me be clear. You'd think that reducing corporate and even foreign influence over our elections wouldn't be a partisan issue. But the Republican leaders in Congress said no. In fact, they used their power to block the issue from even coming up for a vote. What power? What power? They don't have any power. The committees are run by the Democrats, the Congress is run by the Democrats. How do you block it?

1:20:32 I guess they're talking about the filibuster again. No, this isn't what he's talking about. This is bull crap is what it is. Yeah. Yep. So I just look at that and he's always whining about the Republicans. But the Democrats have the House, they have the Senate, and they have the executive branch. I don't get it. Well, it's obviously they need more than that. I don't know what you can do. I mean what more can you if you're a Democrat? What more do you want before you have to stop complaining about the Republicans who haven't zero power? All they do you know the Republicans can do they can complain and moan and groan, but they can't do anything right well somehow they're using their power by the power of Graystoke I've got this legislation

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Warren Buffett's Johnson & Johnson Investment

Warren Buffett invested $2.4 billion in Johnson & Johnson, betting on the company's medical division. The hosts suggest Buffett is positioning himself to profit from the Affordable Care Act, similar to his previous profitable investments in Goldman Sachs and the railroad industry.

warren buffett· johnson & johnson· goldman sachs· obamacare· oracle of omaha

1:21:22 You would agree with me John that when Warren Buffett makes an investment in something usually it's something you kind of want to follow and you want you know because he's somehow he seems to always be right the Oracle of Omaha. Let me see he invested five billion I think in Goldman Sachs before Goldman got all this tarp money and he made double his money. He invested of course in trains and now Warren Buffett has made a big bet to the tune of 2.4 billion dollars on buying 17 million shares of Johnson & Johnson for their medical practice, for their medical division, because of course Obamacare is going to make him rich! Rich I tell you! Sounds right. Yep. Yeah, Obamacare is gonna make a lot of people rich, but it's not gonna, it's gonna break the public

1:22:21 Things have gone up in price. As soon as they passed it, you can see anyone who gets prescriptions and they have a medical plan, you still pay the same $10, but if you look at the base price of the product, in many cases it's doubled. So that's what the insurance companies put it through that way. And it's just chemical goop. It's just an obvious scam. Well, so General Motors filed to go public. Now of course they haven't even paid back their borrowed money yet, or they lied about it. And you know me, I love reading S-1's. I've done an S-1 myself and it's fun. You have the business part, you have the marketing part, and then you have the risk part of the S-1 filing. So this is very important. The S-1 is a public document. Any company that goes public, and of course you and I own 85% of General Motors right now, John. So far. Yeah, we own it. And I'm going to get a payout when they go public. I get some cash. Oh yeah, you'll get tons of cash.

CHAPTER 25 / 31 Discussion

General Motors IPO, S-1 Risk Factors

General Motors filed an S-1 document to go public, revealing significant internal risks. The filing admits that the new CEO and CFO have no automotive industry experience and that the company's internal controls over financial reporting are ineffective. The hosts highlight that the public currently owns 85% of the company through government bailouts.

general motors· ipo· s-1 filing· internal controls· financial reporting

1:23:23 So I was reading through the wrist document and two things were interesting. One, The ability of our new executive management team to quickly learn the automotive industry and lead our company will be critical to within the past year, will be critical. Within the past year we have substantially changed our executive management team, that would be the president fired the guy. We've elected a new chief executive officer who will start on September 1st, 2010 and a new chief financial officer who started January 1st, 2010, both of whom have no outside automotive industry experience. So that's one of the risks, but the real risk that I found interesting, our management team for financial reporting under the supervision and with the participation of our CEO and CFO conducted an evaluation of the effectiveness of the design and operation of our internal controls.

1:24:16 Because of the inability to sufficiently test the effectiveness of remediated internal controls, we concluded our internal controls over financial reporting is not effective. June 30th, 2010, we concluded our disclosure controls and procedures are not effective at a reasonable assurance level because of the material weakness in our internal control over financial reporting that continues to exist. Until we've been able to test the operating effectiveness of remediated internal controls and ensure the effectiveness of our disclosure controls or procedure any material weaknesses may materially Adversely affect our ability to report accurately our financial condition and results of operations in the future in a timely and reliable manner Well, that's no good Outrage it's a freaking outrage. In other words, we don't exactly know what's going on Let's say you buy our stock

1:25:10 This is just crazy. They could be losing tons of money for all we know. Yes, it's crazy and they just put it in there. Gee, I wonder when will Don Lemon do that on a report on this? Never yeah, nobody ever does s ones or all the rest. It was just read it I mean you understood what I said it wasn't that hard right? Yeah, what it said was we're screwed up We got guys who don't know how to run a car company And we don't actually know how much we're making or losing for that matter losing which is more like it. Oh my goodness It's just Wow Thank You mr. President

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

Geraldo Rivera True Blood Debate, Gay Vampire Allegory

Geraldo Rivera hosted a debate on his Fox News weekend show regarding the HBO series True Blood. One guest argued the show is an allegory for gay rights and that the "gay vampire" theme is what upsets critics. Rivera is criticized for cutting off the conversation just as it became substantive.

geraldo rivera· fox news· true blood· hbo· vampires

1:28:43 uh... high entertainment value shows they're all on fox on the weekends it's all the second-tier guys uh... they'll wanna be these guys are really good on couldn't carry a mass market or can do a show five days a week and so you get a lot of wacky shows in the night how could be a yes fossil and you get a bunch of as you never heard of the do weird stuff it's highly entertaining is highly entertaining but the girl those shows amongst the worst and he only does one a week right it's friday as this is a weekend show So he and he comes on the other shows But you know he can't get any traction for this show either because he's not very good when you see him as a you need to go back to opening up Al Capone's vault

1:29:22 So he was on there, they're bitching and moaning about True Blood. One guy thinks it's the worst thing and it's an abomination. This other guy, these two TV reviewers, the other guy who appears to be gay, which I'm saying because it's going to affect what he says. You mean the G word, John. And when, by the way, when he starts to discuss what he thinks about True Blood being a gay show, Peraldo, instead of saying, wow, this could get me some numbers, he jokes and cuts off the conversation and i can see it is like a ridiculous uh... on his part because it was actually getting interesting once this guy brought this issue i'd never seen the true blood show i know it's always there was the guest who was this guy now i have to get their names but it's just a few just figures two guys arguing with her all those about her although blowing it as it were uh...

1:30:16 I got all these puns I don't even mean to do. Yeah, stop you're killing me. You'll be here all week. Let's listen to the clip. It's a highly intelligent, very clever indictment of the very conversation that we're having right now. And it's an allegory to our time. It's highly clever and ironic. But they're depicting murder and rape as if it's something worth being glorified. I mean, there was an episode just this season where one of the main characters literally turned a woman's head around 180 degrees. I saw that in The Exorcist, Nathan. Wait, I saw that in The Exorcist. It's ironic. Nathan, why don't you have a problem with the violent movies like, you know, Transformers and movies where women are sexualized, like, you know, Megan Fox. Did you see, Nathan, did you see Salt? Did you see how many times Angelina Jolie offed somebody, you know, with a gun? I mean, why aren't you going after movies and products like that? The old sex and violence argument, Nathan.

1:31:12 There are certainly arguments to be made against the glorification of violence across the board, but this is a particularly extreme case where you're glorifying the combination, a really horrifying combination of sex and violence at the same time. I mean, you're showing people... Nathan, I think you're taking it far too seriously. ...in a mainstream publication covered in blood and naked. covenant blood and naked. I think you're taking it way too seriously. Where do we stop writing things off as simply ironic instead of sewer diving? That's what we're doing. And I think we need to just, we need to talk about something that is the real issue here. I guarantee you if none of those vampires were gay vampires, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Oh come on Ted! What's upsetting so many people is a lot of the vampires are gay. They are? I have to say most of my vampire friends are gay.

1:31:59 and that is absolutely true. Oh no! Who's talking about them being here? You haven't been watching the show if you haven't been seeing that. It has nothing to do with that. Well, like I said, I completely disagree. I mean, certainly that hetero, sexual, sloppy scene we just saw was not gay. Anyway guys, I guess it's a kind of circular debate. Those who like it will watch. A circle jerk is what he was thinking. Circular debate. Continue to watch it. This would have been actually kind of interesting. Yes, I never thought about it, but obviously you know this guy was thinking in those terms And I thought it would double that's an interesting angle to critique and then do Geraldo like oh god I don't know maybe I'll get in trouble if I let this conversation consider continued continue like this a word I can't closes the conversation and leaves and some believable But anyway, this is the kind of crap you get on TV

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

Wyclef Jean Haiti Presidential Bid, Jude Celestin Fraud

Wyclef Jean was ruled ineligible to run for President of Haiti, a decision he plans to contest. The hosts reveal that the current president's preferred successor, Jude Celestin, was previously convicted of bank fraud in the United States. They speculate that Bill Clinton and other international actors are manipulating the election to position Jean as a "folk hero" savior.

wyclef jean· haiti· rene preval· jude celestin· bill clinton

1:35:19 Yes, but I think it was I think somebody blew it I think it was I also think it was an intelligence agency of some sort I don't know which one But I think there's somebody just decided to do this and they said what the hell you doing this so we can't do this now and they had too early Photoshop done yet pedophile charge plant some stuff on his machine. Yeah, it's too early you bastards. You can't do this stupid idiot back into the mailroom you idiot and Okay, so here's the funniest one cuz I did a little bit of research Why Clef Jean the future president of Haiti and this was the same thing it was like well, you know he's it's Yeah, his bid is illegal. He's not living in Haiti Back and forth back and forth all of this stuff And then he finally comes on the air of it sounds like he's on a satellite telephone from Port-au-Prince He for all I know he was just calling him from Skype and

1:36:18 And I want you to listen to what he says about him not being eligible, because there's some amazing things in there and I think I can kind of predict what's going to happen next. And there's another puppet on the scene. Here it comes. Yeah, the electoral council just gave their list of candidates. I was one of those that was rejected. We did not make it. Our party did not make it to the forefront. I know there's been a lot of back and forth and you've had a lawyer representing you in this case. What was the criteria that you didn't have in order to get onto this ballot? I mean we had five lawyers representing us on this case. We produced every piece of paperwork. So first of all, nice folk hero flying in Gulfstream fours and a whole team of lawyers representing him and a whole team and a whole party. I didn't know, I just thought

1:37:13 Oh, he's just a singer. He's like a hero of the people. Which, by the way, you'll hear he still thinks he is. It's possible within the Constitution and within the electoral council. And we'll be printing those shortly online so everyone can take a look at them. But we just want to thank the youth of Haiti and the people of Haiti for believing in the movement. and the political party, Vivant Somme, live together and we stress to the youth for them not to act with violence. Okay, very interesting. You hear what he said? I couldn't understand it. He's saying we stress to the youth of Haiti do not commit any acts of violence about this news. I'm paraphrasing. So that's, right there I'm like, huh.

1:38:05 Okay, so you're telling people not to riot which is and I'm gonna get somewhere with all of this But basically he's saying oh, you know date I'm so happy people are not writing that I've unfairly been thrown out because he doesn't say That there's a fact he says quite the opposite. He said there is no merit. There's no reason they he has all the documentation It's everything is all set everything is clean as a whistle and he should be able to run why come to they give you a specific reason Why you've been rejected? No, there's no specific reason. Our lawyers went today, we went over all the paperwork and every piece of document cleared. Right now I think it's past the paperwork in our constitution. I think the Haitian constitution, the laws that

1:38:55 on there we've listened and we've proved and we've shown every piece of paperwork. So this has come to our party and to our group as a total shock. So essentially, straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, it's not true. It has nothing to do with anything, there's no reason for him not being able to run. Wyclef, is there an ability for you to appeal this process? And if you're talking to political candidates, aren't you supposed to say Mr. Jean? Since when do you get to say Wyclef? Wait, I go to school with you or something? Or is that a final decision?

1:39:36 uh... well we're we're going to talk about uh... in a couple of hours with my lawyer didn't right now quite a bit of a fair uh... incident in cedar the technicality i'm with with their clean it's important that i have a patient citizen uh... that uh... the right to the constitution is respected in the electoral council is respected and if they act for the paperwork and the paperwork is legit which it seems to be uh... then uh... we will see if we will appeal or not. You know they got a gun at the guy's head. Like this is, read from this paper.

1:40:12 So, Time Magazine writes the following article, Wyclef dumped from Haiti's presidential ballot. And it starts right off with, before he announced on August 5th that he was running for president of Haiti, Wyclef Jean was still listing his age as only 37. But after declaring himself a presidential candidate, the Haitian-American hip-hop star also decided to come clean and confirm that he's actually 40. If you're gonna lie about your age, I mean you gotta do a better job. Three years, I mean why the hell, right? What's the point? And why start the article off with that? Well, the article, I saw that article, it's a pretty sketchy article. It fails to mention his concert in Belgium. They had him hiding out in a cave somewhere, according to Time Magazine. So they were paying no attention. So this Time Magazine piece was obviously scripted by somebody else because there was no reporting that I could see. Well, let me take you all the way home.

1:41:04 So, in this article it says, since he was widely viewed as a frontrunner before the CEP's ruling, his popularity will loom over the 19 candidates who did qualify, including Jude Celestin. That is the pick of current president René Préval, who of course is no longer eligible to run. So, a quick Google search on Jude Celestin And I have here, July 10th, 2010, Jude Celestine convicted of bank fraud in the United States. This guy is in Haiti, he should be extradited, he embezzled a million dollars in bank fraud, was convicted in the United States, and this is the guy that the current president is throwing up as the guy he wants to run.

1:41:57 How did he get out of the country after he was convicted? Well, he's part of the cabal. So I think there's one of two things going on. So this will come, this will come out. There's Celestine and I put a link in the show notes to justice.gov where they, June 11, Bank Insider and Runner convicted for roles in counterfeit check ring. And that's this guy. And I think what's going to happen is so there's two things. One is it's a total setup. and they want to ensure that Wyclef gets in. So it's going to be, he's out, they're going to push this convicted felon forward, the youth of Haiti will revolt, of course we know how that works when the jackals come in and they just stir up the pot.

1:42:42 And then Wyclef is going to come out of the heavens in his Gulfstream 4, owned and operated by the Arabs and Clinton, and he's going to calm everybody down and he's going to save the day. That is one option. The other option is, it's actually true, I'm going to give the guy the benefit of the doubt, and they're trying to screw him out of running for the presidency and they want to put this evil guy in. and they're just gonna flip on the earthquake machine again just to shut the damn slaves up. I don't think so. I think the first thing, the fact is that we got Clinton involved so we know something's up. They're using the same jet. I think, I don't know why you'd go through such an elaborate, I mean you could just push the guy in and he'd win right away. If you want to make it so it's more of a folk hero by what you describe which is a kind of a

1:43:32 a classic way to do it. But it's possible that it's a combination of these two things. In other words, they're actually are trying to screw him. And Clinton's boys are like, you know, now coaching him on how they're going to prevent that from happening because Clinton's a politician par excellence. This is what we're gonna do don't worry about it But the first thing you got to do is you've got to keep the youth from doing anything right away And then we'll take care of it later Kind of thing I think that there's I think I don't I think there's two both things in play in other words They are trying to fuck him, but he's gonna make the comeback But it and screw them back, but I don't think that the two of them. I don't think they're all in cahoots together That's what I'm saying

1:44:18 I was just giving an alternative possibility. I mean obviously I think it's the first one and how hard was it for Time Magazine to, you know, they write about this guy, it's a recent article, and two months ago the guy was convicted of check fraud. How hard is it Time Magazine? The Time Magazine article. How hard is it just to like put a little link in there? Google. How hard can that be? I did it this morning, no problem. I'm laughing. There's tons and tons of articles about this guy. Well it's the same thing with the Bel... as soon as they didn't have the Belgian, you know the fact that he was in hiding out in Belgium. Yeah, Hofstra of all places. As soon as they left that out I knew the thing was a sketchy article so it was obviously planted by somebody. I don't know who. And

1:45:02 the reporter obviously didn't do any work at all because you would have caught the and people and he is a good high school uh... news does better does better dot yeah cuz you would have got the uh... the check writing guy which is not mention at all which is just an embarrassment to the time magazine well something's up now it's not an embarrassment time magazine did did their job exactly what they're paying to do it by the incident there's been a moods has a private rights ministry of truth i don't think anyone has any pride there if you work for time You should quit quit if you work for Time magazine Anyway, so we'll see as that unfolds but one thing's for sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Lockerbie Bomber Anniversary, Megrahi Longevity Controversy

One year after his release on compassionate grounds, Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al-Megrahi remains alive in Libya, sparking international outrage. The hosts reiterate their theory that Megrahi was innocent and released to prevent a retrial that would expose intelligence agency misconduct. They note the embarrassment his continued survival causes the Scottish and U.S. governments.

lockerbie· abdelbaset al-megrahi· libya· scotland· pan am 103

1:45:48 Hasn't lived in Haiti for five years. It has nothing to do about his fudging with the age. I mean, that's just all bull crap Yeah, he didn't fudge with his age in the official document for him to say and it's almost like a threat for him to say well You know, I'm really really happy that and I want to reiterate to the youth of Haiti don't revolt. No violence is not the answer Please that's so obvious. So I have only one more clip. I And I want to, and I only have it here because I want your take on this, because we have been going back and forth with two or three different theories about Lockerbie. And now it's shaking out in all kinds of weird ways because there's a bunch of messages in here. I still stick with my theory, and I think if you listen to this clip, I think my theory is still correct, which is that they were ready

1:46:40 to bust out the documentation and information that shows that this guy would never was the Lockerbie bomber and it was either some Syrians or the... all the reports were done right after the bombing of the Pan Am jet. The CIA was involved in that too. And the CIA had something to do with something. There was definitely a bunch of intelligence agencies and this and that, but this guy was an innocent guy, by our thinking, and they had to finally let him go because they didn't want to retry him with all this new evidence which would have documented all kinds of wrongdoing. So they came up with this bogus thing to ship him off, but unfortunately, since he never really, apparently never really had this cancer that he was dying from, the unfortunate part is they keep celebrating his birthday and making a big deal about the fact that he's not dead. Another year, yay!

1:47:30 And so they're throwing it back in our faces. And so now all hell's breaking loose about getting this guy to shut up or retry him if you don't like him, make a mess of the whole thing. I think he's gonna end up shot, but... Well no, he'll suddenly die of complications. Or something. But anyway, listen to this. You'll see all this stuff kind of unfurling. It's very interesting. Now, a year since the man convicted for the Lockerbie bombing was released from prison, President Obama's counter-terrorism adviser has said he should be returned to Scotland to serve out his sentence. According to John Brennan, the White House emphatically disagrees with the decision. Two U.S. senators have again called for an inquiry into why Abdel Basit Ali al-Megrahi was returned to Libya. And Britain's foreign officers urged Libya not to celebrate the anniversary. Matthew Price reports now from New York.

1:48:21 It's a year now since Libya celebrated the release of the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing. Today, he is still alive. So too are the questions surrounding his freedom. Scottish officials say Abdel Basit Ali al-Megrahi was treated like any other prisoner. His medical records were reviewed by the head of the prison medical service who gave him three months to live. But critics, such as this leading expert in the field, say no prognosis can be given with any certainty. I was quoted in the Glasgow Herald saying exactly that a week or so after he was released and here we are a year on, he's still alive and this is embarrassing for the Scottish Government and causing all sorts of problems in the US and elsewhere. Mr McGrathie has terminal prostate cancer, the decision stands. Everybody knows somebody who was given a prognosis of short life expectancy who then outlived that prognosis.

1:49:22 happened in these cases. census in the US these days and yet on this issue there is. He should not have been let out of jail. Most of the 270 people killed were Americans. Today the White House reiterated its disappointment with the decision to release McGrathie. We've expressed our strong conviction that our McGrathie should serve out the remainder, the entirety of his sentence in a Scottish prison. We will continue to reiterate this position to the Scottish and Libyan authorities.

1:50:09 and the president extends his deepest sympathies to those affected by that reprehensible act of terrorism. Also questioning the decision are Mary Kay Stratis and her daughter Sonia. Tomorrow morning, Sonia is getting married, but her father, who died in the Pan Am bombing, will not be here to see it. I'm definitely sad. I miss my dad. He will be, I'll be carrying a picture of him on my bouquet and so in essence he will be walking with me down the aisle. Here they know they can't force British officials to release more information but while McGrahey remains alive they will keep looking for answers. Matthew Price, BBC News, New York.

1:50:53 BP has rejected accusations that it repeatedly ignored requests for information about the explosion that destroyed the Deepwater Horizon. Okay, that's gone. Break it down for me. Well, I think that they're putting everybody on alert that if this doesn't go away, in other words, this guy either gets killed or shuts up or moves to some village and doesn't start celebrating every year that he's got away with it, which embarrasses everybody. I think this is just putting everyone on notice. It's a screwy story. It's going to happen again next year unless there's some... If it doesn't happen next year on the next anniversary, then we know it's been taken care of. But right now, it's... I think somebody violated part of the deal.

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

Wyclef Jean Appeal, Show Outro and Sign-off

The show concludes with breaking news from CNN regarding Wyclef Jean's formal appeal of his disqualification in Haiti. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak sign off, reminding listeners of the upcoming 10-10-10 fundraiser and thanking the "human resources" in the chat room for their support despite the morning's technical difficulties.

wyclef jean· cnn· haiti· 10-10-10· comcast

1:51:37 I think somebody said, look, we're going to get this guy back. Just get him out of the way. We don't want to hear from him anymore. Shut up already. But now every year that in Libya they have a big party. Yeah, I think they don't want to reopen any investigation because that whole Lockerbie thing, it's there's pedo bear stuff involved in that. The people hushed up the CIA. It's a huge pit of horse manure. Yeah, it's a disaster. Breaking news, John, as we wind up the show here. Breaking news, breaking news from CNN. Hip-hop singer Wyclef Jean said Sunday he will contest a pronouncement from Haitian election officials ruling him ineligible to run for president of Haiti. I cannot surrender now. Listen to the fighting words. Oh, we're gonna be so right on this. I urge my countrymen to be patient throughout this process, he says. Oh my god, this is great. This is exactly... Check it out. I'm just reading through this really quickly.

1:52:35 I cannot in good conscience give him my quest to lead Haiti to the greatness I know in my heart we are capable of, We in Haiti are united in our struggles and we will be united in our victories and triumphs. Now is the struggle. Let us peaceably bear it and look forward to the time when our efforts will pay off for all my fellow Haitians. Thank you for your love, understanding and support. He's going to come. It's the folk hero thing. So this is what's going to happen and of course obviously they could have done this a little earlier but they didn't have Clinton's speech writer yet. and so clinton got on the speech writer so he's gonna have all his professional sounding st you know things that he's gonna say and it's going to be a he's in and he's literally saying uh... you go to vegas and bet on him i cannot surrender now simply because an obstacle has been set before me now is the time i must stand up and show haiti and the world that my vision of a nation renewed and redeveloped as a vision for which i am willing to fight can we were developed yet the only after i have a big keyword

1:53:35 Boy, you know, here's what happened. So first they cut your Comcast connection. Then we actually trump them by waiting and getting them back on the air. And then they're holding back this CNN release like, oh, geez, they're talking about it. Well, I'll put the release out now then. So before they can predict it, let's put it out because of course, you know, there's only limited people that listen to the show live. So now now of course will sound like we're just behind the news Try guys good try listeners no better anyway, okay, that's it Wow I am now. I'm actually really tired from a depressing note like the beginning of the show Yeah, we had some good real news in there, so I think I'm gonna go drink a fifth of Jack and hop on my Harley Good idea yeah

1:54:31 We will return to you on this Thursday. Hopefully the tubes will be up and running so we can continue in peace. We appreciate everyone who is a human resource sticking with us and staying in the chat. A lot of fun. And remember, Dvorak.org slash NA. Hopefully sometime tomorrow we'll have the lucky 42 for $42 donation button set up for 10-10-10 Super Karma. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, I am Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, the sun's shining. It's going to be a hot day, a hot week perhaps. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday, right here on NO Agenda.