Chillies in the Antilles

00:01 I don't like shooting myself, i'm sorry. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Thursday August 5th 2010 time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 223 This is no agenda In a tiny beach shack, coming to you from the Diver's Paradise Crackpot Command Center just 35 kilometers north of Alo Presidente in the Netherlands Antilles. In the morning I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where i don't expect this call to last more than five minutes because of The Connection I'm John C. Dvorak It's crackpot and buzzkill! Yeah... You're probably right. I give it like 10 minutes actually

00:41 Yeah, it was ten minutes the last time it crapped out. In the morning to you John! In the morning to you and in the morning to all of the ships at sea! And of course our human resources who should be all charged up and ready your government needs you nice and charged Yeah, that's what they need charged. Yeah They need charging so the one thing I've forgot to do amongst all this is Twitter have you done that? Oh now you just retweet me okay hold on let me do that Of course I'm afraid to do anything at this point cuz yeah don't worry about it. It's done too late. It's all over So we have a bunch of old in effect. That's funny yes

01:24 Ah, and there we go. We've already lost John at least we got the opening down Let me see if I can bring him back into the fold here this May just not work Yeah, I was right five minutes, but actually that's no good you sound terrible well yeah wasn't even five minutes It was like two minutes Well, you're back. Yeah well you know what it is that you mentioned a lo presidente and immediately they flipped the switch on me. It's like hey those crackpots are too close we got to turn them off uh all right so we'll see how long it lasts but I don't have a very good feeling about at all...I do however have a brand new jingle to share with you John hit it! It's another Jeff Smith spectacular Adam Curry former Soviet spy yes

02:28 Yeah, I like it. It doesn't do me any good but it's okay. Of course not! It was not meant for you, it was meant for me So uh... Up here or down here I should say in the What would this portion of Gitmo Nation be? That is a good question Island, I don't know Because we are about 35 clicks north of Venezuela Although officially on... Ah fuck me Alright, well let's just get you know if it drops out again then I have one other option If-if? I got my bat signal that worked the push notification came through. All right Yeah So yeah, you know it's the island life my friend Yeah, yeah, I guess that's out as a permanent residence yeah, yeah That said that does kind of put all a bummer on the whole thing

03:31 Yeah, because you were talking... we were having a conversation last night and Mickey wanted to just stay there. Move there. Yeah well that ain't gonna happen if we have this... they don't have 3G on the island either unfortunately they have GPRS so I am overlooking uh...the most beautiful blue green ocean i've ever seen and it's been quite peaceful I haven't unfortunately not been able to actually watch Allo Presidente show They don't carry it here no yeah it's a real bummer we do have uh... bravo i think mickey found was able to find kardashians she said so all is well that's why she has in mind moving here the kardashians can be received yuck how can you watch that show yes or what's going on there stateside uh... well they passed the gay uh... mary or another day may rest in this turned down by the good local judge

04:36 Yeah, that proposition 8 which is a big deal in California and now there's gonna be this huge battle But I've actually made a clip for about this because there's a little gotcha in here And the way this guy's approaching this that I think is very interesting it had nobody and nobody. I know of has picked up on it yet and if you want to play the clip which is the gay marriage rundown Yeah, and see if you can spot in here a little just to look there's a long clip But you wanted clips from the show? but this there's a do you see if you can spot the very interesting little tidbit in here that says to me oh That's interesting. We can we I got like it can use that for other uses I'm thinking

05:21 Okay, here we go because marriage gives so many rights to the various couples who can marry It's very important that we're clear about which couples have those rights and which do not And you can't sort of tab rights one day and haven't taken away in the next day etc So I do think it's very important that we what are they talking about? They take away rights all though all the time. You take away your passport The hell is that? Yeah, I know it's bogus. Get some clarity on this and i think that's probably why Judge Walker said okay I'll take another look at it and decide whether to stay my ruling. Professor Nise, I just want to follow up about the judge because there was some criticism about Judge Walker outside the courthouse today for those who don't know he's 65 years old appointed by uh... the first president Bush in 89 but he- he is gay and there were those who said well

06:06 He actually had made up his mind before the trial ever began. Is there grounds for appeal based on that? It seems pretty unlikely, in fact if you look at the ruling it's 138 pages it's a fairly thorough and detailed analysis of the evidence that was presented at the trial I mean people can criticize Judge Walker but at the end of day he didn't make decisions about how to defend this case. The state attorney general and the state governor refused to defend the case, but lawyers that were representing proponents of Prop 8 really argued religious beliefs and moral disapproval. And whether you like it or not those things are actually not allowed as a defense to a law our Constitution simply does not allow moral disapproval alone as reason to interfere with any groups constitution

06:49 and judges hold on a second so they do they pass prop eight or devoted down what happened here no pop-up it was passed yeah that in band gay marriage in the state of california and uh... so then a judge because chilean this because again he wanted you know one of them they don't want his law now and then since there is no other side wants the law and so they went to a judge who happens to be gay but it was kind of slipped in there he's that's okay, he did a fairly thorough job but it was largely the uh... it was always expected this to go to supreme court so they can make it you know kinda stick around for other states. So there is a plot afoot

07:33 But what the judge said, which was interesting to me. I don't know if we got to that in the clip yet but it was the rationale he says look you can't make a moral judgment That can't be your only defense Right because that's unconstitutional you can just say well it's because i don't like it is not a good thing and i think it's iraq we know whatever well i'm thinking what doesn't this same kind of thinking apply to laws against prostitution drugs yet just as you know why did exactly so is this precedent going to show up in the u i don't know how far you can take his logic but this sort of logic that is like what is the unity there's a law against prostitution

08:15 and the only reason for that law is first is for moral reasons it's a more or some morality thing just like did what what we're seeing here but how do i have lots of them are having the conversation after the fact so it passes in nine now we have all that now we have the logical conversation taxes because they've been to public voted for us had nothing to do with anything family in california week in passing while we want to uh... were two referendums initiatives but the fact of the matter is that it gets appeal as an unconstitutional law And then if the rationale for it being unconstitutional is that it has to do with more morality, then can't we apply that thinking to other laws? I find it kind of interesting that... I was maybe a related news story. The guy who leaked all these documents to WikiLeaks

09:03 Now they're kind of pulling, well this exposes he was angry about gays in the military and because he was gay and that's why he wanted to become a whistleblower get all this stuff out there. Could it be related somehow? I honestly don't think so but it is an interesting coincidence Whatever the case is, this is the big story. And of course now it's going to the Ninth Circuit which is crazy and known crazy court and so anything can come out there but doesn't make any difference because whatever happens from the next thing is gonna be appealed again until it gets into Supreme Court then they're gonna try to rush it to the Supreme Court where they have the voters on their side even though nobody knows how many these guys are really gonna vote on anything

09:47 So now that we appear to have a stable connection coming to you from down south, almost in Venezuela. Perhaps we should do a quick mention of our executive producers if we have any and are there any other executive producer or associates? Yeah, we have a tonne. Oh really?! I might have to open up a new file though... you're so prepared for the show no i was preparing there just sent me another copy of the uh... spreadsheet because there was some stuff missing on it and so i just got it and then i had to go in a open did and ended it says he can have two strategies of this day came open at the same time so i had that's close one of them and then close the other one and i had to reopen it is not a matter being prepared okay as okay as it has become now just telling you that these machines you know our picky there's their

10:38 So we have three executive executive producers. As in single line executive producers? Yeah Wow, okay Because they each gave us a thousand dollars Holy crap yeah pretty amazing i should go on vacation more often you should just stay out of town and we'll do just fine alright back to europe executive producer wow okay who we got going on here mark dytham dy th am who uh... was actually given this is a gift from his partner um astrid klein these are two hot shot big-time architects in tokyo

11:22 Yeah, and I like their stuff. We should have them design a house for us but they don't look cheap. Anyway Mark gets it because according to Astrid he deserves a big pat on the back for always challenging the status quo and taking us out on our limb with his amazing visionary ideas Adam can testify to this It is invariably stressful to deal with so many unknowns at once but deep down we know its only right thing to do in the end will get satisfaction no money in the world can pay for still nobody wants the red either so now we can't live without your shows whether deep and no agenda d h unplug thank you very much daily source code architect five thank you very much so please keep it coming in that stance and get that stand for the cowbell uh... and i do and she says also that you can give mark that night with but she gets to rain she's a little bit better on her okay uh... that's a subtle hint john

12:17 Indeed. Chris Jacob in San Francisco, California please make this donation on behalf of Bullseye USA Wow! We know Chris Jacob Yeah He used to work at Mevio or Pod Show I would say He wants Bullseye USA plugged. BullseyeUSA dot com? What is that, what is bullseyeusa.com? It's the official firearm store of the No Agenda Knights! I don't think it's the same as Jacob. So Chris goes from sales to... well I guess firearm sales are the same thing right? Is it the same Chris Jacob do we know that for a fact? Yes yes it is! Was Chris a gun nut?!

12:57 Well, I know he's been a NOAA Jenna listener for along. You know what? I got a note from me said He was doing something new and he did say watch the PayPal donation soon Okay. Well that must be Chris Wow So now he is a I don't mean gun nut in the pejorative by the way like shooting myself I don't like shooting myself. I'm sorry See this is where I can get to my jingles quick enough you know because I you know, someone's gonna clip it well John's just Gonna go shoot himself! And all it took was two shots to the head and we dropped the connection.

13:36 all right bulls are you were saying that you did your say and i shot you don't have any money to drop a j yeah so matt christian finally up the last uh... executive producer will be matthew actually got another unit is too but in that you pay to get some night who had this is one of paul kuture who was doing the uh... queen product from and no offense dot com yeah exactly students needed to do getting us twelve nights and uh... did no agenda fans dot com for anyone wants to take a look at the challenge coin uh... so good in our gender challenge committed no agenda fans dot com india night will be matthew petty and then we have of uh... executive producers two more but these are due together sean connelly naperville illinois uh... three thirty three thirties ricky and that

14:31 Hi-fi yang is what it looks like to me, but Jeffrey But it says high five for some unknown reason here. It was Jeffrey from New York flat at 3333 and last time I complained he says that he wants too many karma karma points He's asked for the same for the same job health and family karma And there's a double salute to Adam for living on Some what? Living on what? On we the producers. Oh, that's right Yeah, no exactly all living on the producers. Okay him yeah, it's like my only income. Yeah good point He's got an annuity to I figured after a six-decade producer show this one will be a draught a draw drought and

15:20 uh... my bucket of water enjoy a defect it was just the opposite which is to show you this is so inconsistent it's that we would be nice to work with the world more stable john snyder sir john snyder chicago uh... on-site shan connelly and uh... jeffrey yang are executive producers in there we have associate executive producers john snider as never night without up to cargo two three four and real time data dot com which is a associate executive producer 222.22. Okay, let me just get this right here. We've got Sir John Snyder is associate executive producer realtimedata.com okay

16:06 What was the final one? Was that it? No, just two associates and three stand-alones. This is like a real show with all these crazy credits! Watch The Beginning of Law & Order sometime and try to figure out who actually does this show Okay, so we're gonna have to box the credit. That's still my favorite all right So as all of you know these are very official credits You can use them in your correspondence for four jobs We will vouch for you because of course

16:43 there goes yeah and i still with you unlike uh... hollywood credit you can actually talk to the creators of the show and get him on that on the phone will vouch for us so thank you very much um... are exactly project just doing in a row here executive producer mark dyson executive producer chris jacob of bullseye usa dot com executive producer matthew petty And then our executive producers, this is a separate line in the credit roll. Sean Connolly and Jeffrey Yang right? Did I miss anyone there? Yeah! And then associate executive producer Sir John Snyder and realtimedata.com All the rest of you out there know what to do. You gotta go out and propagate the formula it is extremely simple Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth

17:40 All right, everyone say it along now. Shut up sleeves! I'm waiting for it to crap out any minute now. Oh, yeah you're at the point where it's gonna die It's about time to die once again Fun to edit this show Yeah, it's gonna take me two hours to edit the upload will be even more fun actually that should take a better part of The afternoon by the way. I'm three hours ahead here right now. It's 1235 in the afternoon whereas still in the morning for you and uh... but uh... interestingly enough this uh... you know alo presidente uh... hugo chavez has made some noise about uh... bonair where we are going to take over the island well actually on ten ten ten it uh... becomes an official

18:32 1010 day that's a big deal. That's the Chinese looking at no it's a huge day on 1010 ten It becomes a full municipality of the Netherlands so right now I guess it's kind of like colony type deal where it's a part of the Netherlands Antilles. It will be no different from say North Holland, this will be its own county and the Dutch will be as if they didn't already but they'll be running things down here and Hugo is saying oh yeah well that's interesting that it actually won't be apart of NATO

19:12 So he's saying, oh nice just bring on some of those warships and airplanes down here. And they're flying over my airspace all the time anyway so he popped up right out of nowhere making some news about it. Ha! Interesting... And you gotta think why are they doing it? Why is the Dutch government or the non-existent Dutch government why are they all of a sudden deciding to do this on this lucky day of all days have no idea i mean obviously the usa told him to or the EU told them too, somebody told them to. I don't know why you know we haven't done that with uh... Puerto Rico and so anyway so the Netherlands Antilles Gilder will disappear and they will only accept a dollar they won't be taking the euro obviously so you can already pay with dollars here on the island pegged

20:16 The Netherlands Antilles Gilder, which is kind of funny they're still using that. It's pegged to the dollar at 179 and yeah it's gonna be a full-blown county. Hmm interesting Yeah that's about all the news I have from here John That's about it? Well that what you do on an island! Yeah you don't do much else than... Oh but I must say this place is amazing They call it the divers paradise because well there's good diving around here And what's great about it is there's no beach. That's why there's no huge tourism with big hotels and stuff, because people like to hang out on the beach and basically you drop off the edge in the coral... Speaking of dropping off.... Yeah well at least we're on a roll! We're rocking here baby! Awesome. I don't remember what i was talking about

21:15 You're talking about the beach. Yeah, so... You could have continued to chat because I was dozing off Okay well No but it's kind of nice because it's an island which is fantastic and a great place to be But the reason why there's no huge tourism here is that there is no beach So you know that's where there are no big hotels It's only people who come in dive And the only tourists who are here underwater So its beautiful Also, there's no there's no like a beach where you have a bunch of oh that's interesting. Oh No, no That's what make it so much what makes it so awesome and there's only like one flight a day that comes in You know, it's perfect makes it awesome that there's nothing to do but dive your diver. No, I'm a snorkeler Okay It's look it's a it's beautiful. It's uh, it's sunny Yeah, we've gone sailing now. It's great

22:02 It's great, but there are just no tourists. Of course the only people who are here are Dutch which is a downer and I mean that well for our friends in Gitmo Nation Lowlands...I'm not slamming it too hard but yeah thats kind of a downer But otherwise its great And theres just absolutely no news There is nothing going on here You don't get CNN? I haven't turned on the TV at all except to find Hello Presidente So uh Listen clips since we got some stuff here. Okay, you know there's a We did he's a total the shale and that the oil or the gas You know this cracking the fracking yeah that basically makes your water flammable Yeah

22:53 well it's finally got into the network news is moved dot the scale because i told you once he started hitting new york with his new yorkers are when they did make a fuss in a study you know it starts to get a little more mainstream and so it's been sitting these funny hidden that work news but as i said hbo actually had a special about at the other day did you see that uh... if they're going after these guys but here play them ourselves shale field clip and that'll keep us on the air for a few more minutes. There's a controversial provision tucked inside the energy bill working its way through the Senate, and it's pitting some natural gas drillers against environmentalists The bill requires drillers to say what chemicals they're putting in the ground to help break up shale rock and extract natural gas While the issue has hit a nerve along the Marcellus Shale Reserve this is a deep-rock

23:45 deposit rich in natural gas that runs beneath New York State, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Now until recently the shale gas was hard to reach but technology is changing that and as Stephanie Dew reports people in the town of Hickory, Pennsylvania are caught in the middle hungry for natural gas profits but worried about the impact of drilling Stephanie Holowich built a house three years ago on top of the Marcellus shale field. She didn't know there was already a contract for the mineral rights under her land from a ridge above her house you can see gas wells, a compressor station and

24:23 wastewater containment site. There's so many what-ifs in that contract it doesn't talk about pipelines and compressor stations and processing plants and 24 hour traffic and noise and dust, what people are dealing with every day She is worried about the impact its having on her kids Save the children please! who aren't allowed to play outside unless the windsock is blowing away from the house The family buys the water it uses because of fears their well water is contaminated. We still don't know exactly what we're being exposed to. The development of shale gas wells is done in stages, first the lease rights must be secured then a well is drilled. To efficiently drill and shale the well is drilled down 8000 feet and then about a mile horizontally After the well is drilled comes the fracking which involves

25:14 involves sending water, sand and a small chemical solution into the well bore to force the natural gas to the surface. That fracking process is suspected of contaminating water. Ron Gula had one of the region's first horizontally drilled wells on his 141 acre farm He claims that drilling company polluted his pond I don't know what all they used up here you gotta realize this was a second horizontal done This was all experimental We are the guinea pigs Who knows what they were using up here? I have no idea. We're not privy to that information both Gula and How we not spend time blaming people but find a way to restore To find some okay, so at least they got the whole clip in yeah So this is just gonna reach ahead. This is gonna dis can't continue

26:08 Well, we can try it a little bit longer. No I'm not talking about that! I am talking about the fracking. Oh yeah well but the thing is she didn't talk about the flammable water she only talked about the noise and dust... Yeah another guy came on he didn't have the flammable water but he had water that stunk. I think the flammable water is just an anomaly in some areas I don't know man because i watched that HBO special and it was pretty outrageous you know just turning tap water on in the sink and lighting is uh... I would say yeah concerning at best. I would say, oh can't drink that stuff. You have a flame out. Burp! So yeah so um so you see now the network news going after him? Well that was Nightly Business Report but it's i think is headed to the networks and its gonna be all over for these guys they can put up did public can tolerate this

27:06 No. And will we see this in Los Angeles as well? I don't think there's fracking going on in Los Angeles! Well, there is lots of oil drilling on the way to the airport... Yeah but it just isn't oil fracking It's just wet stuff that's different They don't have this like a pool of it they just pump it out That's not the same thing with this thing where you crack all the shale You change the structure of the earth beneath you and then you pump this gas that pockets up here and there out of there The whole thing is artificial Well, we'll have to keep our eye on it. Wait... you irked about that oil wells in LA? No! Not at all I just uh..I mean you know i had my water filtered reverse osmosis and all that stuff and oh by the way I saw a report they're bringing up the old put the lithium in the water again Who's putting lithium in the water? Well Japan was doing it and now they're testing that again in Texas

28:03 Well, Texas has natural lithium in the water. No but they're actually adding it to the water and they're saying well you know we have this whole less suicides thing like yeah it's good It's good to be less suicide is a it's really good and then all your good little slaves should like it We've got our fluoride You like that don't you? It's good for your teeth This is good for your brain Yeah well I'm not uh...I haven't followed so I don't know Let's find another clip while we have the minute in front of us. There is a meme that starting up, there are two things going on one is they're trying to get uh... you know they're trying to convince us that were leaving Iraq any minute. Oh right! In August right? August 31st? Yeah end of august. And so Katie Couric had a big report this week I listened too, I learned couple things like last week I listened to left wing talk shows and before that the right wing talkshows this week I listened to network people

29:00 And I found out one interesting thing about network news Almost every single commercial now a days is a drug commercial for anybody which is never news. It's it's unbelievable In fact, they have a series of clip just two three clips in or there's like three little commercials or three to 30 seconds and then this Is the only kind of commercials they play you'll find it in the clip that's called Interruptions Yeah, play that. For frequent heartburn relief, nothing beats Prevacid 24-hour. Just one pill helps keep you heartburn free for a full 24 hours! Prevent the acid that causes frequent heartburn with Prevacid 24 hour all day all night Nothing works better

29:58 With COPD, I was short of breath. So I couldn't always do what I wanted to do but five minutes ago... Okay you can stop we don't need to listen to the whole thing that's a long one and but the point is this is all they play and for people out there who enjoy the fact that we like to deconstruct things You have to remember when your watching television commercial television The commercials are aimed at the audience that this show is aimed for Which is idiot. So if you're watching a thing with Citric Cow for people who are losing their bones and they, they're belching all the time so they have to take Pepsod AC or whatever it is and then they got dog, can't breathe that means that your watching a show thats actually really old people Well isn't amazing John? That after health care, the historic healthcare bill was passed but all of sudden we have all these drug commercials could that be related

30:53 I think that these commercials before the health care, it's been going on for years. Yeah but now...I agree with you it seems to be the only thing we're getting these days is a and they're pulling in all stops out of everything as we pointed out on the last show selling vitamin B as prescription medicine I have a feeling it's related to healthcare. I really do, i think that these guys are just like ehhhhhh its gonna be great! It's all going to be awesome for us so meanwhile the new these news shows are pushing that to kind of two or three agendas that are kind of interesting one of them is the idea that we're leaving iraq but not quite a try to get issues to the fact it is not quite and this katie kirk report i didn't like her little bit so it's not sold damn long as extremely long and the clip is called leaving iraq with dog every size they would doggies because in the middle of the clip for some unknown reason they have a dog bark

31:53 And it's almost like it was added in for some, I don't know to add some ambiance. I suppose whatever the case is this is what really this is the main message they're trying to tell us When he came into office, there were 144 thousand US troops in Iraq. Today there are 81 thousand and by the end of this month there will be 50 thousand Officially they'll be designated as non-combat forces but that may be misleading Yeah see that's the trick before we even continue with it He keeps talking about withdrawing all the non combat forces There is nothing said about the contractors No we're drawing the combat force The combat forces Nothing said about the consultants

32:31 Yeah, no he mentions the fee mentioned. He addresses some of this because go thing because the troops will still be in harm's way and Will continue to support Iraqi combat forces they also engage in targeted counter That's ambience That's what Iraq is all about, it's just a bunch of dogs. ...engage in targeted counter-terrorism operations and while the US troop reduction is on schedule Iraq's transition to a stable nation is not The president today said violence is near the lowest level in years but the Iraq government disagrees they say July was the most violent month in more than two years

33:11 And the political infighting is so intense that five months after national elections, they still don't have a functioning government. It's certainly not the stability that we had envisioned when President Obama rolled out his strategy for Iraq Every time you disconnect you get a message from Skype asking to evaluate the call Really? I haven't gotten that I get every time, so i put very bad and then they give you a laundry list that says call drop. So they'll probably be knocking on somebody's door hopefully Alright so uh we come out of leaving Iraq with dog Yeah! So anyway the point is they're trying...they're preparing us for the fact that this leaving Iraq is slightly bogus And the media is getting us ready so were not going to be stunned by the fact that we are no really leaving Iraq Yeah when we find out it was a lie

34:13 And then meanwhile, the media is also promoting the fact that we're going to have to get more involved with Afghanistan. They had a thing on 60 Minutes that was just disgusting for one thing they had that woman who slammed the writer from Rolling Stone who got McChrystal fired because he didn't play according to the official rules of journalism So she's in here doing a puff piece promoting something or other and it's a... I'm just, this guy who is uh got his name somewhere let me see if i can find it. Her name her name is Flanders? No Flanders is no, Flanders is the girl from GritTV with that crazy accent. That's Laura. The one I'm going to play is Homeland Nonsense

34:59 The guy you're gonna first hear is Hank Crumpton, and then you're gonna hear some psycho that's apparently in charge of some sort of security or something at Afghanistan. He's an Afghani who just is this glib psycho, and he's going on about how he's a big target and we were gonna be screwed if we leave Afghanistan. And he's obviously...he lives in his Ritzy office I get the sense that they just love to soak us! the American public is being soaked. And so the angle here, and Hank Crumpton says it a lot, is we have to protect the homeland. Ooh! The homeland is over...

35:36 Your homeland homeland homeland he keeps talking about and so there's over like spread all over We have to go back. He talks about the homeland being under threat from Afghanistan somehow and And so this whole thing is rigged This is that woman I can't look her up that the reporter who's obviously corrupted She's cute though. As long as she is hot, then it is okay? I can put up with that anyway. Anyway goes in and this is the crap we are going to be subjected to over the next six months or more

36:13 This is an enduring security concern for the United States, for our homeland. And for me it's much like deja vu because prior to 9-11 I made this same argument. If we do not address the issue in Afghanistan We will suffer in the homeland Wait a minute he said that prior to 9-11? Is that what he said? Well here's what his story is He says he said...this isn't public...I'm going to tell you his story He says he was in the CIA It's not a you know, he was a real hit man. He was killing people and setting up Kills all over the place to calm things down in various parts of the world That that's always a good policy calm things down by killing people And so then so then he I don't know why but he's not in the CIA anymore and I believe that he is Not yeah anymore either because I don't think they would let go on but they

37:07 And so now he's an independent consultant or guy, I don't know what the hell he is but you can look him up. Hank Crumpton and all he's doing is saying we're going to be attacked at the homeland We're gonna be attacked at the homeland if we don't kill everybody in Afghanistan using my old tricks! Then they bring out this Afghani who just a worse character It's just a whole thing it's rigged, its set-up, scripted...it's pathetic. The American public is underestimating the Islamic fundamentalist groups and terrorism and extremists. What do you think would happen in Afghanistan if the US decided to withdraw? I am very clear on what will happen

37:54 First the massacre campaign will start. Wait, where'd they dig this guy up? He's like the head of Afghanistan security or some crap! He's looking all over the place he's got his head cocked... ...he just looks like a total dick And he is just lording it over her, telling us all what we need to know because he knows and were all a bunch of dummies. We have to stay there because otherwise there's going to be... Besides the fact that this get one thing straight The Afghanis are armed to the teeth! How is this massacre gonna happen? It's gonna be a massacre on both sides but they may make it sound like that soon as we leave the Taliban actually

38:38 he says Al Qaeda, and I think it's been shown that there is only like 3 or 4 Al Qaedas in the entire country. He makes it clear that we're going to look like idiots if we leave. Someone's now banging. Not here! I can't win. Let's hear some more of this jabroni, that was kind of interesting... Yeah someone is hammering yeah okay on the nice and peaceful island! The human cost in this country will easily be up to 2 million people killed at least K it will not be a big news for Afghanistan we are used to tragedies throughout our history but the cost for you will be bigger what would that be?

39:25 Glory comes from winning wars, not from retreat. Glory for Al-Qaeda if the US retreats? For Al-Qaeda. Since Amr al-Assala was the man responsible for Afghanistan's security he had a more immediate concern what is happening across the border in Pakistan Al-Qaeda and Taliban are now headquartered in Pakistan. The bulk of people we kill, neutralize or capture in Afghanistan are the expendable part of the terror network. The leadership is there and they're not feeling the heat

40:07 apart from these occasional drone attacks. In Pakistan and elsewhere, where you see enemy safe havens, where they are the power, where they are the status quo we must be the insurgents We must work and recruit locals And we must collect intelligence, we must engage in subversion and sabotage and be very precise If you were in your old job at the CIA, is that what you'd be doing right now? Yes. You would be inside Pakistan and have men on the ground in the tribal areas building the exact kind of relationships that you built with the Afghans that helped defeat the Taliban Certainly And I think ultimately That's how you win this type of war You have to empower the locals

40:54 So they have the victory John what would exactly what channel was this on where was this broadcast? This is on 60 minutes at 60 minutes. Or whatever so What is the plan here's like yeah, we're moving on ever I think that there's I mean did you notice the way she is like leading the question She's completely leading him on like oh yes well You know what is the consequence going to be ah So anyway, you still there? Yeah I'm still here. Well meanwhile heroin use is at an all-time high particularly in places like St Louis Yes we got the St Louis story and

41:32 I was reading that St. Louis story about this girl, some poor high school chick got stoned out on heroin she looks like crap to ever picture before and after it's not just any heroin is the China white which is now which is snort yes the good stuff you know the stuff that's coming from the poppies we're protecting yeah so the question of my wife's poor girl in jail Well, she's in jail because uh... she stole a car crashed into a light post and she had an illegal substance. And her parents won't bail her out because she is safer which is probably true She's safer in jail than out Okay These people should be in rehab So I was looking at some uh... Yeah, she wasn't rehabbed but I think she busted out

42:25 some historical statistics and it's interesting that we get all this said chatter now in august because august historically has been the month when bad things happen we just had i think two days ago the anniversary of uh... heroshima uh... world war one started in august world war two started in august and uh... well Why not be nice living in Iran right now? I wouldn't want to live in Iran. This idea of getting out of Iraq might set up a setup to sucker Iran into attacking and so then we can say look, this is why we have to be there and then go back

43:11 But Harry Dent, the economic and stock market analyst says that this August, the month we're in will mark the beginning of The Great Depression. The next great depression is going to crash this month and all hell's gonna break loose It's funny because you can imagine on island like this there are a lot people who have money And I was having beer at... There are two places where you can have beer it's very small island and this one place called Havana. And all everyone was talking about is, oh you know the... I don't know if they were talking about Harry Dent but they were talking about all these guys who are saying it's you know the big crash is coming. It was buzzing literally about all these reports and their emailing PDF back-and-forth to each other and oh it's all gonna happen and we couldn't you know who could have seen this would happen? There's maybe even just that sentiment alone isn't enough let the market crash

44:05 You never know. Sometimes that kind of sentiment, if it's really widespread is always a good indicator because the market tends to go up. That's the joke of it but its fact and so I don't know. The euro certainly hasn't made his crash? It's like at $1.30 now... Yeah, it jumped back up which is good for our exports but not good for my traveling no so I stay home All right, so here's a let's change the topic. Oh actually let's stick with Afghanistan thing for one more clip There is another this is an interesting one This is a long clip I have of drama was in Afghan and it the whole thing is obviously scripted and staged Brian Williams does a little special on this little under girl named see which I think it's some clips to and he

44:57 Yeah, and these are something with some similar. And she he met her at the orphanage some years ago and was playing with her. Now she's in the United States coincidentally with a bunch of other girls from Afghanistan visiting some clinics because apparently there is no doctors in Afghanistan. Somebody one of them needs prescription glasses another one needs dental work another one has a some wrong leg and this whole thing it just bogus to the max And so I'm watching this thing, kind of fascinated. What is the point of showing this at all? It's just a long package it's not short piece on a half hour nightly news show we're talking about NBC News. It's a very long piece and at the very end they finally get what they are leading up to and this isn't going to be another meme that we catch. I am going tell you what it is in advance and you'll hear it so you don't have to try guess it since were gonna get cut off anyway

45:52 And it is apparently, we have a lot of people in this country that either don't want to have kids or can't have kids and they want to adopt kids. They've already adopted a bunch Ethiopian kids and they don't think much about that Chinese kids are sketchy Romanian kids half them are from insane asylums and they had to ship em back as we know by some stories So were looking for new places then the girls in Afghanistan Eurasian many of them very attractive This is about adoption Damned Afghanis make it this illegal come again on that. It's illegal what? To adopt is for a foreigner to adopt an Afghan girl

46:33 Heroically run by a woman named Andisha Fareed, it houses children of the war in a healthy very happy environment and our visit has stayed with us ever since along with every child we met there. So we were surprised to learn that one of them, a girl name Shagofa was here in the US this summer She had been a special part of our trip to Afghanistan because of the memorable way we met Oh, you want me to put on your glasses and you're going to put on my glass? It was a truly wonderful genuine moment from our last trip to Afghanistan. You look good in my glasses actually I'm not sure i looked so great in yours Shagofa was that young girl we met at the Kabul orphanage just about a year ago

47:21 Well, Shagofa is here in the US this summer with a group of Afghan girls spending six weeks in Southern California. Sponsored by the group Solus for The Children each girl is here for medical care. Shagofa for her eyes Lita to get cavities filled. and surgery to save a leg infected from a mortar attack. We take them to doctor's appointments, doctors donate their time pro bono to see them and it's all about promoting peace between our country and Afghanistan through the... Oh what? It's all about promoting peace between our country in Afghanistan this is outrageous

48:01 This whole thing is outrageous. This human interest stuff is killing me. It's just a setup for the punchline at the end, it's a tearjerker and ridiculous. Parents here in the US take comfort in knowing she will go back to a nurturing place to live but its going to be hard to let go When we heard that Shigotha was from an orphanage before she came we were nervous wondering how are we gonna send her back

48:51 But once we saw the footage of it, what the nightly news had shown me. It seems like a very loving and great environment We're happy for her Until that time when she has to return the family's making sure Shagofa enjoys at typical California summer at the beach and on the water, and that rite of passage for so many American kids. Disneyland! For us she's going back with a better picture of America, a better picture of the world... The girls in Chagofa will return soon healthy and happy and changed by what they've seen in the US changed as well by the generosity of their American hosts who have been change themselves

49:37 She's a special friend of ours and just to note here while Afghanistan does not allow foreign adoptions And goodness knows, a lot of you have expressed an interest. There are ways You can help nonetheless! You can see our original report from the orphanage and get more on the agency by logging onto our website That's nightly dot MSNBC Dot-com Well, yeah wow. Wow is right! So I've seen a lot of these reports you know about the... You know that we're there to help and don't worry we're from the government and we want to make it good and gonna help the children It's just it's why do people how can people stand this? I don't know they apparently they can sit very long because every 10 minutes based on the commercials I see during his shows

50:33 Anyway, I don't know. But the whole thing is it's a public relations stunt and I think...I don't know who is behind it but I suspect that some adoption agency that sees a gold mine here in these Afghan kids many of them are very bright and they would be much better off out there if one of them had a mortar attack I mean, subtle messages went on throughout the piece including that thing where she came over for this and then because of a mortar attack. This is not a good environment for somebody to be raised in and they had these non-parents that were hosting the girls you know? It was just the whole thing set up in my opinion to get Afghanistan to give up on their

51:24 not allowing people to adopt orphans because this wasn't about you know just any old girl off the street who had the same issues that were in a poor family. No, these are orphans so this was like already gave you predisposed to them well if they're orphans and they could be adopted couldn't they? no I guess not Speaking of the kids, remember what I said about the Dutch government and why it was taking so long for them to put a coalition together? Because they had to get the Christian Democrats in. Yeah! Because they run the justice system and because all the pedo-bears live there Well guess what... They just announced the most crazy government structure ever with the Christian Democrats The VVD which is the right wingers

52:15 and that so as not to piss off the uh... the members of the christian democrat party a feared builders party will not be a part of the coalition but they will he will have something they call by like an approval process So essentially they're going to make a deal behind closed doors, all of Geert Wilders points will be put in. They'll have to make all changes and rulings according to what his party wants even though he won't actually have any ministers or any other coalition members so it's basically in the catbird seat

52:55 so he can say whatever you want to do what everyone but he doesn't actually have any responsibility and uh... the the christian democrats are in so they can continue on justice system they got exactly what i wanted has been approved yet but uh... this is that this is the latest okay well it's interesting about the best thing to do other than uh... the u s postal service which of course we already knew that they have thousands of postal workers sitting in the ready, what do they call it? The ready room? Yeah the rubber room or something. Where they just sit in a room and watch television all day because there's no work for them yet they can't be fired. Looks like they found some work for him as the Postal Service is ready to deliver life-saving drugs

53:45 to what, six cities? They're training the mail carriers now in case of some form of large-scale terrorist attack. Your postal worker will come and give you your vaccine. Two to the head! Who knows what they're carrying?! This is weird and this was like a USA Today story Yeah And nobody notices this stuff. It's really peculiar I mean, how come that's not on the network news? Did you see anything about it? No No, it just was kind of floated through and nobody bothered and then of course the real news which I have here for us Which by the way, I have an extra rundown which is real news Now

54:32 I feel really bad about this because i've been so out, i've been pushing away real news to such an extreme trying to find kind of insights takes on other stories that I swear to god half the people they mentioned in this rundown. I don't know what the hell they're talking about okay what is this? oh this is extra yeah Allie and Roberto today breaking news about the wedding and dancing with the stars you guys ready we're ready let's do it Why Ali dumped Chris for Roberto? Were you married with him? Yes. Was it love at first sight? All the rumors set straight after the Bachelorette finale shocker How did you guys keep it a secret? The $50,000 diamond and is Chris the next Bachelor? Crystal Palin dumps Levi again! Why it's suddenly over right after they announce they're getting married

55:28 Lindsay untamed in Maxim, the sexy new cover she shot days before jail. President Clinton's moonwalk at Chelsea's wedding. New secrets today and a peek inside Chelsea and Marks $4 million love nest. Breaking Tiger divorce news! Is Elin smiling today because she just got the mansion? Tonight's GPS tracking stars on vacation Madonna and Jesus in Portofino, and who we caught cleaning up Miami Beach Plus the question. We just dared to ask Bradley Cooper about Renee No

56:06 If you know at least five names in that report, you must turn off your radio now. You are not allowed to listen to this program! I have no idea who those people are! It's an outrage. We kind of got that but come on, that's nuts Well, I know the bachelor thing the Bachelorette. Yeah, we talked about all these new names have cropped up in this $50,000 rings and all the rest of it What is this? Does anybody follow this? I mean it did I mean only reason actually like extra I think besides the fact that they just all teasers Is I just loved that extra X saying hey breaking news John

56:51 In the International Criminal Court, Naomi Campbell testified she did indeed receive the blood diamonds. Dirty stones just dirty rocks! That's right in 1997 when she was staying at Nelson Mandela's house Campbell Taylor. So the way I see this story is the following, she's in over there and some creep comes up and says here are some stones or diamonds for you and she looks at them but I think she was sincere because they look like dirty old rocks because diamonds don't look like anything. And what do they make a nice hook into a necklace or something where you can have them chopped up and made into stones that are pretty? I'll bet you ten bucks she threw em out

57:36 She says she did not ask any questions when two men came to her room in the evening to give her what she said were very small dirty rocks. They're in the bottom of her fish tank! She finally went, eh...eh I mean please? I want Mia Farrow to testify that's what I want I want to hear what she has to say. Oh no just Yeah, well whatever. I don't know what it proved when the editor gets her to testify...I think they just wanted to see her but she seems like a ditz But does this not put any kind of black mark on Nelson Mandela since it happened in his house? No you can't put a black mark on Nelson Mandela It's impossible There is also...what about his wife Nelly who was a corrupt figure in the government

58:25 You know the guy is bulletproof. He gets a pass, he's got to get out of jail free forever. A card and that's that. Seeing as he was in there for 30 years I guess... Yeah you're right but I mean it to me is like okay who were you hanging out with? Oh, you can imagine. Bunch of guys come into our room in the middle of the night giving her small dirty stones... Small dirty stones almost spilled my coffee there I got some dirty these are just look like dirty rocks and she probably I'm telling ya I swear to God I betcha she chucked them No word on that

59:01 So did no one bother asking her what happened to him? No. Oh, we don't know the press was not allowed to ask her questions She's snuck into the country. Well she won't answer anyway she said dipshit so you gotta tell me some people that aren't dipshits are the people who give it to our show yeah and I'm not quite sure We're providing at the type of value we'd like to provide on today's program because it's been very very challenging so far But I would like to point out that we have never missed a show yet and we're trying. We're trying to keep the tin cans and string together as i'm here in

59:44 in the southern Caribbean just north of Venezuela and we are bringing you a show. We're trying to bring you as much value as possible I think will have to focus extra attention on the show for Sunday just to make up for it Are you going to take a run to Venezuela while your there? And say hi to Hugo? I would love too, we are drinking Alo Presidentes beer which is polar beer or as they pronounce it here Polar and I have to say its quite good he makes some good beer Well, you know he's better. And from time to time you know he gets pissed off at someone and will just stop producing and then everyone starts to freak out of course I mean forget the fact about what it is like to live in Venezuela but when they stop producing beer we got a real panic That would be a problem But it's quite good actually

1:00:34 So yeah, so we had a stellar list of executive producers and associate executive producers which is really really great to see the support we have for the show. We feel that we are giving back this is a listener supported show which means we take no uh... no corporate money and no commercials ever never will uh... we are completely a left up to your devices and uh... john let's say i think some of the people who have a support on this jet Thomas hit holler uh... he taller you may not try to pronounce his name is a tricky t h a l e dot from frankfurt it's all about now was good to know that i'm very right uh... one one one one

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1:02:03 from Clovis and this is by the way, this is one of the pals one of our double nights down in there we have a night above husband-wife night team at Clovis New Mexico And this is an honor of Dame Margaret George's birthday on Sunday August 8th. Oh nice Well, well put it well do we have to yeah? We would you her in the in the birthday mentions in a minute? But he's on their real day we can do it We don't forget well, then why did Eric put it in the notes for to do birthday? That that those notes should come with the PayPal file. He didn't put that there Daniel Horber ext direct in Golden Colorado 8110 J creamer or Kramer I Think it'd be pronounced Creamer Egan Minnesota six six dot six six

1:02:59 Matthew Lesensky, or it could be Lechensky in Apple Valley Minnesota 6320. He's assuming this is a donation of 3 times three dot 33 SDRs in USD based on Wikipedia latest exchange rate Please feel free to use my name. He's anti SB 1070 it simply an extension of federalism, national liberalism trying to email something or other I will have to figure that out later but apparently 3 times three three three comes the 6320 just I don't know what well we might as well get used to the SDRs now because they're coming eventually so yeah he might be right good initiative

1:03:49 I think the next one on the list asked not to be mentioned, so I'm going to skip it. And if he wants being mentioned, I'll mention him next time. Jeffrey Fitch Windermere Florida 5510 He likes a credit donation to his brother in order to wish him happy birthday we have that on the list. He's one of them got me listening to this show about a year ago but to my knowledge The Douchebag has never donated! If possible, can you wish him a happy birthday but he will have to de-douche himself. So... Hold on. DOUCHEBAG! Some things still work here. Yay! That's Jeffrey Fitch

1:04:28 uh... any time but that his brother assignment read uh... new york new york fifty five ten uh... being close my cash back account and which is funny and i thought what better way to spend it then joining them in a minute helping him get a new car thank you did you see the daily show interview with lindsey schreiber he outright says the spies were marketing for salt near the movie salts yes now we had we've been so we said Before he showed up, but you know it's obvious Scott res Pekka. I'm guessing are things Rezepko Rezepko is that yeah? Yeah, Rezepko could be He's given a 5510 he's making donation because August 5th is his 25th birthday and give him a shout out And so he's no longer douchebag. I think he needs to be deduced

1:05:21 Okay, catch me off guard once again You've been D douche I Just like to hear the little thing a little that's okay. You got to pronounce this next one Okay, this would be a Dutch name. This is young Yurian smart come on John you can do it yon-yuri in charge very good and he's in knowledge awake now this is not a vague now back meldick uh... and then we have our night with layaway travis winnet and finally uh... mike nicole lice chuck nicola chuck i'm guessing the call the check it out since from the paris of canada saskatoon he needs to be deduced after finding out a close friend of his just got denied would james adamson so small-town schedule but that's a small town

1:06:17 If he can cough up that much then I can sure as hell make help out as well. He gave us 50 and he helped introduce me to the show which i love, I joined at episode 210 and now hooked, I'm Canadian, married a wonderful woman who is both American and Dutch so you imagine how much fun your content in our context. He also subscribes 3333 a month which we'll talk about in a minute to help your cause. They have two shout outs as well, special thanks to Sigma on No Agenda Chat for informing me how to do shout outs and the final shout out to my douche bag friend Dirk. Who introduced me to the show with James and hasn't donated he's a douche you just gave him the sound out step up Dirk

1:06:56 From Gitmo North thanks to the great program Mike. So we have, so he uh... He needs to be deduced! You've been DEDUCED! Okay... We got that out of the way. Let's do the birthdays real quick Okay, you're gonna have to help me John cuz the only one I have is Scott Rezepka whose birthday it is today and he supported this show so happy birthday to you So we don't do this shout-out today Margaret George today

1:07:32 We have to do it on Sunday. That's her birthday, okay? Do you have any other birthdays no that should do we just have one other thing oh, that's good Then we must do us some knighthoods well first I want a one more douchebag call out because they've been promising Brian Russell that and we would Call out his pal Damon Daling as a douchebag. We're gonna get in trouble for that we're gonna go to hell I don't think so! I have yet to get a letter saying, I am complaining about it or actually Brian Brushwood on the twitch show said that apparently somebody gave us some money to call him a douchebag and he was moaning about it

1:08:21 He was like moaning about it. He says, I have to be de-douche'd! Well you know how to do it... That's the guy who does NSFW? Yeah, he has a spiky hair guy. But he was moaning and groaning about it. Astrid Klein please step forward. This is not for her. Who is it for? I got it here. It's for, uh... Her husband. I don't have it in my, uh... No, it's your partner Yeah, partner Well- That is Mark Dytham Mark! D-I-T-H-A-M Step forward As we now proudly pronounce the Sir Mark Knight of the Noah Junder Round Table Please I don't know if your partner minds If you can enjoy some hookers and blow But you're welcome here at the table for sure Then we have Chris Jacob

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1:12:33 Which of course will eventually come to sweep us all away and to save us from the stupidity here on earth which John apparently is going to remain behind and fight by himself. Somebody's gotta stay behind us, blow up the zombies so you can get away safely There is this guy in Australia Ragbir Bathao And he is known as The Alien Hunter and he says that he is a you're laughing but this is the guys for real no one said this guy's luxury lives out of forty l yeah i'm gonna put a uh... link in the show notes at no agenda showed up com

1:13:16 And he claims to have definitely found a signal. He's not looking, he says all those SETI guys and people looking for radio signals they're crazy that's not the way to do it oh no! It's light signals and uh... he finds these things amongst the noise of other lights that is coming from of course light years away and in December of last year He said that he definitely found a signal, he has verified it with fellow scientists and of course now is waiting for the next signal and nothing else has come but there's hope. You laugh about this stuff. He verified it with other scientists! Yes! The science is in! Science!

1:14:02 Yes he has. There's all kinds of great stuff, these solar storms is another huge story that NASA is like oh we've never had anything like this happen before things are definitely changing you heard about the... About the about the solar storms John. Yeah, there's supposed to be a solar tsunami coming our way I love the word well they slip that in tsunami yeah And it's gonna it's gonna knock out GPS communications satellite communications and apparently It's already started with the Internet at least our communications at least the island Yeah, that's what its opposed to do

1:14:38 It could, I mean you know they know for a fact that if you get enough of a blast from the sun it could take... because these, they use hard and most satellite especially military satellite communications. The chips that they use in this things are not the chips that you and i buy at Fry's They're designed to withstand electromagnetic pulses but can't withstand necessarily the circuit board itself You should be able to blow things up News coming from both Gitmo Nation Great White North and the Lowlands at the same time, and there is no coincidence of course. We've been following the anti-alcohol or as John calls it, the neo prohibitionist movement And now the interlock will be used in Canada

1:15:33 And so if you get a DUI, if you're caught driving while intoxicated You are basically forbidden to drink at all. So that's the scram bracelet part But you get a suspension and after the suspension then you can cough up 150 bucks to install the interlock on your car $115 monthly fee, a fifty dollar removal fee. Same goes for Getmo Nation Lowlands this is a global program apparently To get us off of evil alcohol I wonder how that thing works Well we know how it works, you gotta blow in it and you have to hum while you blow. No no, how about the bracelet on your leg? Oh its just uh...its sniffing ya! And once it sniffs some alcohol it communicates with some access point and then it gets you into trouble. For all we know doesn't work at all The craziest thing though that is coming out of Gitmo Nation East

1:16:42 is they are now selling milk in a bag. Yeah, I got that note! What is up with that? I don't know what's the point of it?! Well apparently... It doesn't use horrible packaging. But what's the bag? It's not a paper bag! No no but it doesn't use any carton or paper anything at all just less I guess but its stupidest thing ever you see people going home with a bag full of milk I mean please In the United States it won't work because kids would be poking, poking the bags and they'd be leaking all over the place. You just go to the store with like a pen with a sharp point on the end you just poke poke poke really casually and then leave

1:17:26 I just thought it was uh, that's what we do in this country. Yeah We do that to our condoms as well. That's really fun. It's a great sport. That's hilarious Yeah, yeah dairy crest milk and bags They use 75 less packaging and give you 175 more hassle daily crest bagged milk An 18 month trial. Hmm You know ain't gonna fly So I have a couple clips that there's a clip that I got that just was a head shaker because when I first heard it, I'm thinking well There's some more Republicans moaning and groaning about things and how they need to you know take back the country and Just play the first beginnings of this is do not. This is the long clip by just said it long You only have to play a little bit but just play the very beginning and then stop it like just play Washington we can take on this special interest in take back our country if

1:18:22 All right, stop there. Yeah this is a meme that has been going on for awhile by the way to take back our country mean yeah So you wait where do you think this was? This is maybe at a tea party maybe or a Kiwanis Club what do you think let me think I give up This was at the net roots blogging conference which is a left-wing blogging conference. Oh I saw some of this, it's just before i left! There was some chick on stage with an iPad reading her notes and this woman is Terrell Clark she's running against Michelle Obama... I'm sorry Michelle Bachman. Against Obama too probably. She's running against Cheryl Bachman or Michelle get it eventually. And she's going on about taking back

1:19:15 Wait, hold on a second. It was a bloggers conference! Stop me if I'm wrong the Democrats have that house they have the Senate and they have their presidency and they're gonna put all the news justices in who are they going to take back the country from she's telling me that we were she's a Democrat she's gonna run to what take it back from who Obama no no this is idiot yes above all yes but I think this is about the incessant bitching about the Republicans using parliamentary tricks to block all legislation. That's what they're trying to propagate, I think. Play it from the beginning again until you get sick of it. Okay. In Washington we can take on this special interest and take back our country!

1:20:04 Yes, take back the country! Michelle has the full backing of Wall Street, of Carpet America and Sarah Palin. We're in for quite a fight. But I know one thing or two about fighting. of the Navy, because I'm a blogger damn it! watching my parents try to deal with their business and feast and famine working my way through college. It taught me to be tough. I built my career standing up for families working for veterans and seniors and advocating for our youngest Americans when the insurance industry spent a million dollars trying to stop... Okay i'm done. I was wondering how far you could get

1:20:47 That's about right. She goes on and on, she's terrible and she looks weird! I can't even...she's like one of these women who feels obliged to get too tan so she's got that over-tan look like she not only spends all her time under the sun lamp but she also slapping on some stuff to make it even darker And uh..and she's got....I don't know if you didn't like Michelle Bachman I cant see how you would like her now this is a dispute goes on and on in the it's a bloggers conference which i never heard of until net roots and there's apparently right wing bloggers concert took place at the same time so that you buy just don't open the doors let the guys slugged out so d so at the end laura flanders who comes about and she into with that with their linden larouche voice that she has

1:21:37 comes out and introduces some woman who's running for Attorney General or Lieutenant Governor in Texas. And I just found this woman to be the most, the woman that she introduces to be the most annoying woman ever! I can't imagine her possibly winning anything she's an old AFL-CIO hack and she immediately starts speaking Mexican to endear the bloggers to her I suppose. Now was this a chick with iPad? I don't know, no. I think the first chick had the iPad Yeah oh that was just irritating she's like holding the iPad it was like her teleprompter Well this woman though she comes out but just play Flanders introducing her and then played goes right to the end is a short clip

1:20:47 That's about right. She goes on and on, she's terrible and she looks weird! I can't even...she's like one of these women who feels obliged to get too tan so she's got that over-tan look like she not only spends all her time under the sun lamp but she also slapping on some stuff to make it even darker And uh..and she's got....I don't know if you didn't like Michelle Bachman I cant see how you would like her now this is a dispute goes on and on in the it's a bloggers conference which i never heard of until net roots and there's apparently right wing bloggers concert took place at the same time so that you buy just don't open the doors let the guys slugged out so d so at the end laura flanders who comes about and she into with that with their linden larouche voice that she has

1:21:37 comes out and introduces some woman who's running for Attorney General or Lieutenant Governor in Texas. And I just found this woman to be the most, the woman that she introduces to be the most annoying woman ever! I can't imagine her possibly winning anything she's an old AFL-CIO hack and she immediately starts speaking Mexican to endear the bloggers to her I suppose. Now was this a chick with iPad? I don't know, no. I think the first chick had the iPad Yeah oh that was just irritating she's like holding the iPad it was like her teleprompter Well this woman though she comes out but just play Flanders introducing her and then played goes right to the end is a short clip

1:22:20 But to listen to the I mean she says buenos noches and then insists that the audience repeat after her Buenos Noches. Yes, we can was paid for them in part I know she would want me to say by the woman i'm about to introduce She's a woman who has worked for 40 years In the labor movement and backstage. I just asked her why why take this on now? And she said well We really want to have a strong running mate for the governor of Texas and we looked around for a lieutenant governor candidate, and if not me then who?

1:23:01 I kind of waited for somebody to do it and i did it. Im going to step up and do it, and thats what she's done her whole life that the inspiration she brings us don't wait for somebody to do the job, DO THE JOB! I want to introduce you Linda Chavez Thompson formerly vice president of AFL-CIO candidate for lieutenant governor of Texas Thank You! Hello Netroots Thank you. Buenas noches! Hey, there we go! No se oye? Can't hear you. Buenas noches! Alright. Es un placer estar aquí con ustedes Yeah I'm voting for her

1:23:52 You're welcome, you're welcome. It's great to be here with my kind of people. Here! My kind of people And yes you are my kind of people because you never back down and you never stop fighting and I admire that about you. I've got to tell you though that uh... i may be a little too ready to fight I paid extra to fly direct from San Antonio and Southwest Airlines because i no longer want to change planes in Phoenix, Arizona. Right okay yeah great what are we what is coming of us? What's happening this is not good. A-holes everywhere it's really really bad oh my goodness! I wouldn't mind trying to play one clip from here

1:24:51 Which unfortunately will come from YouTube. But I don't know if you saw David Letterman with my friend, my dear dear friend Rachel Maddow? You know and i was watching the run down and looking at that or even recording it because there would be some gems in there and I said I just would be so it'd be starting to itch watching that Matt Allen Letterman exchange information. It wasn't gonna work. I couldn't watch it well, I just want to play the The setup because I mean even though we keep forgetting Cheryl's name Whatever her name is what is our name?

1:25:35 Rachel Maddow? No, no, no. Michelle Bachman? No! The woman who... Cheryl Sherrod. Yeah, Cheryl Sherrod. Sharon Sherrod. I don't know her name. Even though we forget her name when you listen to Letterman and Maddow and they're talking about what's the name Breitbart and how this whole thing came down it sounds like they rehearsed this like they scripted it and said okay let's make this really simple for stupid people to understand We're gonna really talk very slowly and explain exactly how bad this guy is And by the way, no fan of Breitbart here. But just listen to this it was I was blown away by You know how this slave talk literally just like okay The slaves have to understand this let's say it like this and so there's a guy who apparently that takes interviews and press conferences and Edits them and cobbles them together So they give the exact opposite

1:26:33 And the other thing is that Letterman show and to the same extent, The Leno Show are extremely prepped. It's not like you know the way Larry King operated which was you don't want to talk to him he is not going to pre-interview you come on this show sink or swim these shows are pre interviews as close to being scripted as possible

1:27:20 Right, so he's got things. He can just make up any old thing he wants and then somebody I think in this case it was Fox gets a hold of it and reports as factual as factual as factual And in this case It was racism in the United States Department of Agriculture Do I do have that correct? Yes So what the woman who works for the USDA is giving telling a story to a black NAACP audience about the importance of doing your job in a colorblind way and about not being racist all these things and he runs it as a racist from the UDA Wait a minute didn't every single news channel run with that story exactly the way it was. That's why she got fired

1:27:57 And do they mention that Obama's administration ran with the story? Yeah! No, no they don't mention it. It's just like... and why is Rachel Manno even... does she have a movie coming out? Is she sexy? Well you could be deemed kind of hot I guess but you know why is she even on Letterman? Why does she get to come on and talk about this? Is Letterman now just another shill, just another arm of the Ministry of Truth I don't know it would make you think so. It was kind of amazing. Kind of amazing and then, and it took several days to unravel and many mistakes were made including the White House knee-jerk reaction. He does say that's good! Immediately pulling this woman over on the side of the road said you got a turn in your resignation now how much... Good Lord here is a woman as it turns out doing the right thing yeah how much time energy was wasted

1:28:53 Because this I don't know man. I can't watch Letterman anymore after this Why is this on his show? Yeah good question why she on the show you You're right, there's no book. There's nothing to plug he very rarely brings people in I mean He does have a couple of regulars that will bring on in a pinch if somebody can't do the show But they're usually not even prepped They're just you know you used to have like Tony Randall when he was alive you just you know some guests would drop out boom Randall come on it had they'd change a few stories and yuck It up because they work together forever

1:29:33 And that was the end of it, but why would they bring her on unless she and she wasn't? She's not one on his list of people that substitute for guests at that bailout. I don't know It's a mystery doesn't make any sense whatsoever well all I know is I can't watch Letterman anymore You can't trust them then oh you can't trust them now so he can't trust him dead if you've gotten to The conclusion you can't trust him because still watch him He's still in the sink now and again. Another story that of course we're all just letting slip right over us, not a problem whatsoever but it is being reported on MSNBC The naked body scanners which I again refuse to go through at Los Angeles International Airport Which actually gave me minor hassle

1:30:21 They closed off the TSA line at the checkpoint, as it's now even announced. Checkpoint? You must go through the checkpoint. They closed it off and I said I'm not going through your scanner! Why not?! Because that's not safe. Okay... Well hold on then we'll open up another thing there but you could just go through with it. No thank you Story now, which actually was reported by CNET who I guess listened to this show. US Marshal Service admitted this week it had saved thousands of images that have been recorded from a security checkpoint in Florida courthouse That's where they stored all those images so remember they promised us that they won't be stored It was just analyzed and you can't actually see any of your bits Just storing everything Yeah, you never know might come in handy

1:31:16 It's uh, but there is no one up in arms about this. No one cares whatever I know that what the pathetic part is Everyone should refuse to go through the device Let see what else we got here John as I said I really didn't have a...I got all my stories Well let see another clip or two we can go on Play the Tom Sullivan show with a blowhard The intelligence community has grown exponentially since 9-11 to where they're focusing on quantity rather than on quality. Do you agree or disagree with that assumption? Well, look we need an awful lot of quantity because we got caught flat footed on 9-11 and even if you have some duplication of effort that's okay because people don't always know what program it is they're supporting. That is, we might be duplicating some efforts

1:32:07 For one program that's supporting something that is very classified on this side of the wall, and the same kind of effort supporting a different program totally different highly classified on the other side of the wall. You don't always want these things to come down into the same funnel because when they do You have exactly what happened with that WikiLeak. You've got some young guy who had overview of an awful lot of programs he shouldn't have any overview of, and violated the trust and confidence of the military and his own nation by leaking that information to an outfit out there. Now with respect to The Washington Post Tom no matter how hard I think about it I can come up with no upside

1:32:47 to Dana Priest and William Aiken writing some kind of article which tries to expose all the elements, the little companies, the people involved in our intelligence community. It is complex! There is a lot of money out there but at the end of the day if those two Washington Post journalists everybody in this town and everybody in San Diego where you are are safe that's what America should want and I think that's what we get with this system right now have Amen, thank you so much. Wait a minute... He's actually defending it? He's defending that one in every three Americans works for the CIA with top secret clearance? Yeah yeah he is defending it and he's defending everything! He's just a defender That's great And the guys like an ex-major in the military which seems to me if your gonna be one of these talking heads brought in from the military or the CIA You better have a higher status than major

1:33:41 He's just some blowhard. And it was like, I'm watching Fox going this is just ridiculous. So this is watching Fox on the weekend you get these kinds of things but the one that I think that is the most interesting and I'd like to probably, this will be my last clip for the show and we can start to wrap but... see if you can catch the interesting herald of flub he's talking to some black guy about you know uh... how people can become democrats republicans is just a kind of it so i got a little bit about race but he makes his interesting flood any state in india e-carousel use it and he just keeps talking as though never ever even happened and that was if you can get back and challenge on it but i'm assuming catch it

1:34:23 The fact is this is an American issue. This is an issue about green, not about black white brown and as you probably track this as Latinos as African-Americans kind of go up the social and economic ladder and make it do they become as white did they track the majority? Do they become as white I mean do they get more money, do they become more white? Oh that's great. Let me hear that again Do they become pretty good but he because you didn't want to draw attention to it No, he covers it but I caught it let me hear it again. Do they become as why did they track the majority population

1:35:08 Yeah, yeah you could- You too can become White Geraldo just stay at it my friend. You can be just like us! You can be just as good! Crazy... That's funny I like that. Hey do ya know what? We're actually getting very close John to saving Mel Gibson uh... where would you know of course we know that uh... were quite confident mel gibson is uh... there was a huge nicotine addict is on shanty x and uh... that's why he's been going crazy uh... big just a slew of reports out of australia and now reporting about to another fifteen who have committed suicide on the one chant or champ ex as is called that down under since two thousand eight so it's good you know it's like now at least we have his home country his homeland is talking about maybe it'll seep through may be here and if you just you can almost wait for it formell to go

1:36:08 Uh... Oh crap! That's why I'm freaking out. You can just wait for it, so i'm glad that somehow this has crept into the news in Getmonation Down Under and hopefully Mel will catch wind of it and he'll come out and you can just wait for it! Wouldn't be crazy if that was the next real news report where he said I was on Chantix? Well they... those Chantix people, the drug companies are gonna have to put a lid on it so that is going to be difficult for that actually appear anywhere if i a mail doesn't seem to have problems saying other things that are yes you're really excited about your ex-he may not care and now a lot of people probably the most email story is about uh... why clash all uh... and then now having announced that he has uh... running for president of haiti i mean i don't understand didn't we'd say this like a couple weeks ago already in their lives everyone called us during they hate anything in the guy kept showing up in the acting out

1:37:05 They talked about it, I think there was a 60-minute special where they hinted at this. This was all set up! But how come people are emailing it like we're right about something? We were just reporting this for weeks and weeks on end...this is no big surprise I think it's because we maybe picked it early, like a lot earlier. I don't know...I have no idea. And I was actually surprised by that myself Yeah but he did announce, I think he announced on Larry King and he has filed all the documents and now he wants to become president and I think that were pretty convinced that his buddy-buddy with Bill Clinton and he was in there for a day long. Yeah they got him on a hotel chain! Right Left Jean Pension It has a nice ring to it

1:37:43 Well, we'll see. Now if he actually... of course if he runs he's gonna win Oh yeah Right? Yeah oh yeah He's a shoe-in And then what I mean I think that you know If Britney Spears ran for Congresswoman in the LA area she'd probably win Shit! I would vote for her Just having said it I did it I was apart of that movement Definitely a winner in the Beverly Hills area The Daily Mail reports And this is kind of interesting, I probably should have done this right after the donations but Churchill and Eisenhower agreed to cover up an RAF plane's UFO encounter during World War II. Secret files now revealed! It could have been that flying bell that the Nazis invented Well they... well the Nazis had all kinds of flying saucer technology Yeah in fact they have a whole flying saucer special that was done on The History Channel

1:38:39 that I backed up on a DVD for you. Ooh, nice! Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing that because... It's actually quite entertaining if anybody gets its shot at this it's on the Nazi... You know they have a lot of Nazi stuff. It's on Nazi Week? Nazi week, Nazi channel, maybe History International is on the Nazi flying saucers or something like that and they'd developed some crazy technologies Speaking of that, there was a report I'm looking for right now. That the Anti-Defamation League has now downgraded the swastika as an anti-Semitic symbol? Oh really? Yeah let me see if i can find that... I wonder why? I'll have to pull up the report here. Of course everything is here it is ADL downgrades swastika as Jewish hate symbol and lets pull this up for a second

1:39:42 It's in the Jewish week. The painting of a swastika, that dark ubiquitous signature of hateful vandals everywhere is no longer automatically considered an act of anti-semitism under new guidelines for recording attacks against Jews announced this week by the Anti-Defamation League The most prominent Jewish defense agency in the country, perhaps in the world announced on Tuesday it has revamped its guidelines for recording anti-Semitic incidents and its annual survey for the first time in 30 years taking a more conservative approach. We know that the swastika for some has lost its meaning as the primary symbol of Nazism and instead become more generalized. Oh, I see what they're doing so it's not just against Jews It's a more generalized symbol of hate but wasn't this swastika originally like just a purely religious symbol? Yeah But I think the direction of the lines who went in the opposite way than the religious version

1:40:39 I just thought that was very interesting they would come out and say that. It's not really a downgrade, it is more like an upgrade. Yeah kind of a side grade. And the EPA is now considering a crackdown on farm dust if approved this would establish the most stringent an unparalleled regulation of dust in our nation's history yes? Just when you thought rainwater was it now you can't make dust anymore yeah they wanted to put the farmers out of business I have yet to see anybody plow a field without making dust. It just lands back on the ground somewhere, what's the point? Is it going into the upper atmosphere? I don't think so! I see you have a couple clips which are kind of jumping out at me... I wouldn't mind playing those before we close down the show. Which ones? Chelsea Clinton

1:41:37 Oh yeah, this is the best report you could find on Chelsea Clinton. By the way it brings up a point which I'll bring up after you run the clip. it is he's so relaxed he was moonwalking at the reception. I'm sure that Hillary is dying to have grandchildren and what will be interesting is how many children they do have when they have children, he's from a family of 11 she's an only child Where will Chelsea live? This is the lower 5th Avenue building she calls home with Mark and their Yorkshire Terrier Soren Of course million dollar three-bedroom love nest purchased by Mark is similar to this one in the very same building featured for sale on YouTube. Chelsea's apartment is 1,900 square feet so there's plenty of room for a nursery but big question now with mark being Jewish and Chelsea being Methodist how would they raise their child? When children are born that's when we'll know but probably a marriage of faiths they seem seem very

1:42:30 They seem very supportive of each other, so I would think they would have discussed it before getting married. For now the 30-year old bride and 32 year old groom are focusing on their careers Mark's an analyst at a hedge fund called G3 Capital Chelsea just got her masters degree in public health at Columbia University has a background in finance and is about to begin work on her PhD So she's gonna run for president? Yeah, exactly! It's like so clear. Yeah...so obvious to me But the thing that is weird to me was all the commentary about Clinton having lost 20 or 30 pounds he looked like crap

1:43:15 which indicates you know maybe he's not healthy but they say no, the litany was he lost the weight for the wedding. What is it? The dad walking his daughter down the aisle who loses weight for that? See I haven't seen any reports so i really don't know Yeah well thats basically what going on and its mentioned by some others that I talked to about this as well Maybe you know...what other reason do you lose weight unless your sick or you need to lose weight, but it's like if you're maybe having a new girlfriend. A lot of people lose weight. So that's something to keep an eye on. You never really hear about those two? No and yeah in the beginning of the report is says Hillary is anxious to have grandchildren I don't think so!

1:44:06 Alright, I might as well just do this one. All aboard! Trains good, planes bad! The best story in the ongoing war between trains and planes. And of course there's tons of stories always coming out that predominantly are anti-plane and pro train But this one, I mean Hill and Knowlton whoever was on this they deserve a raise. Ready? Go! Seven puppies died after being shipped from Tulsa to O'Hare Airport on an American Airlines flight Yeah seven puppies it's always puppies When you're killing the puppies that's the then you know then you are just evil Then you are just going to hell Killing puppies And thats yeah Just kill the puppies

1:45:02 122 dogs have died while being shipped on airplanes since May 2005. Unbelievable! So, and I have two more things...I got something bad and something good we actually have producer Adam B who works in a hospital i'm not going to mention where he works but he says you guys got it right Vivitrol is a pile of crap. This is not a wonder drug now this is the the drug that is now being propagated as Helping you stop smoke marijuana If right, I could do anything else does everything he says it blocks your opioid receptor in your brain These are needed to make you happy or feel rewarded

1:45:48 It was first used for heroin addicts because it directly stops the effect of heroin. Now they're using higher doses over a longer period of time as it's a long-acting injection to essentially block the high from alcohol, but it doesn't do anything to the receptors that alcohol actually works on. It is just a way to make alcoholics or drug addicts miserable I would not be surprised, so this is a doctor speaking. I would not be surprised to see people who take this drug for too long and have an extremely high rate of suicide. Increased risk of depression is about five times compared to a placebo It's a great way to kill off those that don't fall into line it's a needle full of shut up slave And uh... Boy! I'm out of breath here This climate isn't good for doing a show There's a website I'd like you to see

1:46:44 cats that look like hitler dot com oh yeah no i actually blog this I had not heard of this until I sat around for a long time. Oh my god it is amazing, it absolutely makes you just smile and we'll leave you with that smile on your face as you go to that website right now and close down the show Which has been one of the most challenging in a long time, John. It went to last hour! Went fine! Well yeah but I felt kind of helpless you know not having been able to get all my stuff together... No don't worry about it it's just you can fix it and edit Yeah I'll spend the rest of my day doing that editing all the dropouts and putting everything back together nice

1:47:29 So, I shall be back at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center on Sunday for another episode of No Agenda. Thank you for bearing with us those of you on the stream, The Human Resources who have been powering everything for this program and coming to you from The Beach Hut Crackpot Command Center 35 clicks north of Alopresidente in Venezuela In the morning...I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak We will talk again on Sunday for early morning service right here on NOAAgenda