1:18:50 heart a really interesting person she was on C-SPAN yes which we watch so you don't have to was giving a lecture on the Mexican on the Arizona law which I have unfortunately I can't couldn't cut it down enough to put that in but she she brought up this very interesting point about people that she hires and these especially women she says that are coming out of college today have got to stick up their ass. They won't take a job, they won't do anything. This has been a problem throughout a number of generations, most recently, where they think everything's beneath them, so they won't do anything. And there's just going to be bums on the street if the economy collapses, which it's going to do. But play Buchanan on interns. And I'm glad that it was so helpful to you. I find that over the years when I would hire young people,
1:19:40 like yourselves. Early on in the Reagan days, I would have people, some didn't even have college education and others had a college education and weren't sure what they wanted to do, but I could train them. I could say, do this, do this, and they would be really hard working and very excited about being part of this campaign and willing to do anything. But as the years passed, I noticed that especially a lot of the women, but men as well, but especially the women, there was this tendency to say, you know, I'd say, listen, there's an opening, I just have a receptionist. But I always hire, you know, I always move people up. If something opens up, we'll give you an opportunity. Well, I have a college degree. You know, I shouldn't be a receptionist.
1:20:22 And I'm like, well, somebody's going to have to be the receptionist, you or me, so I think maybe you should take this job, you know? And then after like a month as a receptionist, I said, look, receptionist is a great job. In the Reagan campaign, you had like four or five receptionists. And then the press secretary would come by and say, I need somebody. And that gal seems to be really efficient, good on the phone. Can you move her up to my shop? And so then she'd get press experience. And someone else would move to research department. But it was a terrific opportunity to get known by the people in the campaign. Later on, these women, they said, well, we were told that we should never do anything that's beneath our education level. And I'm saying, well, I stuff and seal envelopes, and I have a master's degree in math. So what's that say?
1:21:05 But they just, and so then, well this one gal who I then made from the receptionist to an assistant to the treasurer, and she says, listen, I think it'd be better if I just worked on my own rather than be an assistant to somebody. This person had like three months from college graduation, and I was constantly saying, where do you think you're going? And this was permanent. Every time I'd hire somebody, they felt, they had this attitude that they should be in policy or something. And so what I would do is I'd find somebody that I could actually say, would you mind going and get me lunch? Just get me lunch because I'm dying here. I need somebody to run down and get me lunch. And if I got any attitude from them like, she wants me to get her lunch, then I never asked again.
1:21:45 But I would find somebody else. And then when the candidate was flying into town, I would say to the guy or the young man, mostly it was young men who were most willing to get me something, and then I would say, could you pick up the candidate at the airport? And they were like, oh my golly, private time with the candidate. I'd put them on the road in Iowa because I knew I could trust them. I knew that they'd had the right attitude. They would work their heads off. They wouldn't complain about what they needed to get done. And that's what you need to do. And so my feeling is, and the message I give to young people, interns and all, is learn everything you can. This is a fascinating point, which I
1:22:22 I have witnessed firsthand, you know, we've hired a lot of people, I've hired a lot of people over the years and this, the difference even between the mid-90s and the past couple years is astounding. That's what she says. Yeah, and that's what she said. And I will have to agree that a lot of female candidates who I have hired or have been hired in my companies Or even people we've spoken to in Los Angeles for some work assisting Mickey with some stuff. It's amazing where if they have a degree, usually it's in marketing.
1:23:05 And you're like, well, you know, so basically you're gonna have to help with the, you know, and it's a, you know, one or two days a week maybe, you know, help with the receipts and sort some shit out and fix my calendar and, you know, stuff that she, that she, she, Mickey and he's like a Sex and the City assistant. And they're like, well, yeah, but I want to write the marketing plan and talk about the pillars of the, of what? And they, and they don't actually, none of them actually want to do any work. And I have noticed this. No, they want to be the boss. Well, there's some thing that's... This has happened in the schools. There's one little line she has in there. She says, I was told that I shouldn't work below my, you know, whatever I perceive myself as. I was told by who? Or that you have some right if you have gone through college, you have the rights to get a certain job and you don't have that right.
1:23:57 who told them that though this is the schools the schooling system of course when it started who was responsible because she says it just started a few couple years ago just the way you saw it yeah like maybe two or three years ago this began in earnest i mean i've seen it before in california you've seen this for let me take a guess uh... i this probably still the a lot of these people started thinking about going to college right around the dot com The height of the dot-com. I'm just you know maybe a little bit after but there were still even past the bubble bursting well into 2003 2004 there was inflated
1:24:34 job compensation levels, people getting cars and cell phones and huge salaries. And of course that wasn't sustainable and companies just had to cut back on that and it just all kind of stopped and certainly in the past few years. But these kids were in college and you know and I guess their college funds were already filled up and everything was paid for. they went in thinking that all you need is a degree, a degree in marketing preferably or marketing communications is my favorite and then you're guaranteed to get some high-paying job with flexible working hours and a lease car and a cell phone.
1:25:12 And I think it's partially the milieu that was around when they went into school and then schools, which are all, most of them now commercial institutions, saying, hey, you know, you come in here, you get this degree, look at all these candidates, look at how great they're doing. So you think you have some kind of right. And these kids are young, impressionable, they don't know any better. And then you learn marketing, marketing communication. Remember those who can't do, teach. The marketing communications degree to me is always an eye roller. It's a bullshit. It's a total bullshit degree. And my daughter who did not go to uni, well she went to university for a little bit and studied drama and hated it and you know and now she's working. She's working 40 hours a week and she gets it and she knows what she has to do and she has no illusions but she also doesn't say acts
