Episode 209 · Thursday, 17 June 2010

Escrow Schmeshcrow

A massive escrow account managed by 9/11 fixers and a suspicious trillion-dollar mineral discovery in Afghanistan signal a new era of corporate and military maneuvering.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 209

About this episode

BP CEO Tony Hayward faces intense scrutiny as congressional investigations into the Deepwater Horizon spill reveal critical safety failures and environmental hazards. Technical analysis of the Gulf cleanup highlights the extreme toxicity of hydrogen sulfide gas, which the EPA is currently monitoring at levels that can prove fatal to workers. The appointment of Kenneth Feinberg to manage a $20 billion escrow account, alongside BP lead attorney Jamie Gorelick, suggests a legal strategy designed to limit corporate liability through a framework reminiscent of the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund.

Secondary reports indicate that the Minerals Management Service allowed oil companies to submit identical emergency response plans, including nonsensical references to protecting walruses in the Gulf of Mexico. Meanwhile, the New York Times reports a trillion-dollar mineral discovery in Afghanistan, a claim General David Petraeus and Secretary Robert Gates use to justify continued military presence despite Soviet records documenting these resources decades ago. In domestic news, the FAA prepares to authorize law enforcement drones for surveillance, while the National Prevention Council introduces strict dietary salt restrictions under new healthcare mandates. Geopolitical tensions rise as Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner imposes sanctions on 90 Iranian vessels in response to aid ships destined for Gaza.

Internal friction peaks when a host's appearance on The Howard Stern Show leads to a heated debate over brand promotion and the influence of Mevio. The episode features a detailed breakdown of the Daily Show montage where Jon Stewart exposes decades of identical energy independence promises from Nixon to Obama. Executive Producer Robert Goschko is officially de-douched for his contribution to the show's value-for-value model.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

BP CEO Tony Hayward, Hydrogen Sulfide Toxicity

BP CEO Tony Hayward is compared to British actors during televised congressional investigations into the Deepwater Horizon oil spill. Technical discussion focuses on the dangers of hydrogen sulfide (H2S), a toxic gas associated with oil refineries that sensitizes the nose and can be fatal at concentrations between 50 and 200 parts per million. The EPA is reportedly monitoring these levels in Louisiana as cleanup efforts continue.

tony hayward· bp· hydrogen sulfide· epa· oil spill

00:00 Could you please stop referring to assholes as my friend? Now with full-time oil spill cam on your screen and coming to you from the hilltop watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, it's a nice day again. There's no oil here. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. Well, in the morning to you, John. Good morning, everybody. Coast to coast and ships at sea. That's my line.

00:45 But yes, hello ships at sea. And in the morning to all you human resources, I hope you're all... We actually had some... we actually have a listener who's on a ship at sea. Yes, I know that's why you stole my line. Of course. Yes, I hope all the human resources are all nicely charged. We need you fit and healthy for another day in Gitmo Nation. And we have stiff competition today, John. What? Well, everyone is broadcasting the uh investigation of ceo tony hayward live live live have you noticed this guy just looks like that british actor who always plays tony blair he looks like the doofus british actor yeah there's a guy who plays a doofus british uh guy on the 30 rock show yeah who he reminds me of it's like it's like they called up central casting

01:44 I said, hey man, we need something for this show that we've put on this... No, we need two people. We need a doofus guy. We need a Swede. Send your headshots over. We'll test it. We need a Swede who says little people and small people. It's really unbelievable. What a great show. And everywhere, every single channel in the United States. I can't wait until... You know the new HBO series start, I think it all starts this weekend. They start with, what's coming up? Entourage and that new lesbian show. And you know they're going to have a BP oil spill cam in the lower right hand corner of everything. It's just everywhere. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. It's like, could it be any more obvious? They're trying to communicate a message to you. I think this is all part of the Get Obama campaign.

02:43 No, I think the get Obama is part of the oil cabal campaign But I'm sure we'll we'll get into that and you know if this thing keeps going on which apparently now it looks like it's gonna be Years yeah forever forever. Well. No they if they drill they think if they drill at least two of these other wells nearby They can suck enough oil fast enough to stop the thing oh, but the hole will be there forever Yeah, but that's that's the whole joke John. That's the whole joke you see the When they drilled into the volcano, because that's really what it is, and I have some... some evidence of that. Save it for the second half of the show when you go crazy. I don't know if we can save it that long. It's too good. Volcano. That comes out hot boiling! Well, I'm gonna ask you some chemical questions and of course as a former chemical environmental testing engineer specialist you might be able to answer some of these questions. I probably can't. No, I don't know. I don't have my Merck. You know somebody sent me a Merck index and I

03:42 You probably lost it in the house. You don't need it. It's really simple. Here, well, you can start googling, um, hold on. Oh, that's a good idea. I should do what you do, Google. Yeah, that's all I do. During the show, so I look smart. hydrogen sulfide. Yeah, what about hydrogen sulfide? Tell me how good that is for you. It's not, well it's very similar in the way it acts on a person as carbon monoxide. It attaches itself to the red blood cells and then you just kind of die. Right. You don't get any oxygen. What's also nasty about hydrogen sulfide is that in high concentrations, toxic concentrations, which is one of the reasons, it is all over oil refineries by the way.

04:28 in toxic concentrations, you can't smell it because it's sensitizes, it does something to your smeller. It sensitizes your nose and so you can't smell it. So if you actually had, if you walked into a, this is the rotten egg smell that you get. Is that what it is? Rotten egg. Yeah, actually that is. In fact, when you fart a rotten egg smell, that's hydrogen sulfide. Really? So it's man-made? It can be if you have, if you've been eating it, you know, over, you know, overcooked hard boiled eggs or things like that. Really? Oh, that's, that's mint. I had no idea.

05:09 Well anyway, sulfur compounds can turn into hydrogen sulfide quite easily. And anyway, it stinks. It smells like rotten eggs. But at real high concentrations, it sensitizes your nose receptors and you can't smell it at all. Take one deep breath, you drop dead. Right. Very toxic. Yeah, that's what seems to be happening down there in Louisiana. But it's only in parts per million, you know, when you're smoking. Right, right. It's 50 to 200 parts per million is when you die. I don't know what the number is. That's what I have from the EPA that that sounds low Really more than that maybe a little prolonged exposure at that level perhaps right if you're cleaning the beach or something Maybe yeah, okay. All right. Well we can talk about that later Why don't we start off? Oh, please tell me the point of the question well No, what you want me to save it for the second half of the show when I go crazy Okay, so why don't we?

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Robert Goschko, Executive Producer Donation

Robert Goschko from Sherwood Park, Alberta, is credited as the Executive Producer for Episode 209 after contributing $200. The hosts acknowledge the lack of American producers for this specific episode and officially "de-douch" Goschko for his first-time donation. Mention is also made of Andrew McKinnon, the series producer for June.

robert goschko· sherwood park· alberta· executive producer· donation

06:09 Tell me we have someone supporting today's show, please. Oh yeah, we do, but I didn't open the spreadsheet. Hang on a second. Okay. I forgot to do something. At least we have someone supporting the show. Yeah, but this is the worst week we've ever had. Oh, of course. And I probably can tell you why. No, I don't think so. Okay. Don't even know what I was gonna say. Whatever you're gonna say is not true. Okay, you've done the analysis. You've done the work. You've put in the research. Yeah, it's partly summer and partly the... Well I guess it's safe for me to... We haven't been sending out any mail and you know, people are wondering where we are. People forget. I like to see what our numbers are, but we do have one executive producer. Okay. Robert Goschko out of Sherwood Park, Alberta, a Canadian. Nice. We have no American producers of any consequence. And you know, I'm actually okay with that. I am too. I wish we had more from Zurich.

07:10 Hi, John and Adam, it's been a long time listener, first time donor, so he requests to be de-douched. Oh, well, we'd be very happy to comply with that. You've been de-douched. So he's been de-douched now. He gave us 200 bucks and he took over the place. And do we have an associate executive producer? No, no. That's it. Also, Robert is the guy who took over the place. Well, we do of course want to thank Andrew McKinnon, who was the series producer for the month of June. Did his check clear by the way? I hadn't checked. I didn't go to the bank this week. Yeah, I don't think we should do that anymore. No, no, we won't. We already talked about it. We don't need to delay it. We didn't talk about it on the air. I don't think we needed to talk about it on the air. Well, we should have talked about that off the air during the meeting.

08:00 Well that'll never happen. All right, well Thank God for Gitmo Nation Great White North. We highly appreciate the support from Robert Goschko today $200 as our Executive producer for no agenda episode 209 you're keeping us on the air that is highly appreciated Of course, this is a real credit that you can use on your CV It has been known to be recognized in show business circles as something of great merit and of importance For the rest of all you out there, especially you in the chat room. It is time once again to come out with our mantra and Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth Everybody now Sit down

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Jon Stewart, Daily Show Energy Independence Montage

Jon Stewart and The Daily Show are praised for a research-heavy segment featuring a montage of U.S. presidents from Richard Nixon to Barack Obama promising to end dependence on foreign oil. The hosts note that Stewart has regained his comedic form now that President Obama has become a viable target for political satire.

jon stewart· the daily show· energy independence· barack obama· comedy central

09:01 And watch the oil spill cam and feel threatened. So on today's show we have a number of things to discuss. Yes. And it's going to be interesting. They're all related to the oil spill except one or two items I have. No, I think the entire, everything in the world at this point for me is just relating to oil. It's like it's all of anything, anything and everything I can somehow within one paragraph in my mind can relate it back to oil. Everything that's happening. It's all about oil. I just mean we can end the show the series can be over well actually we do have a Long clip so we want to get the show over with about probably 10 minutes early because the 10 minutes 8 minute really clip from John Stewart that I thought was the best although Stewart kind of I think

09:49 uh... did lead to a kind of maybe didn't review may have ruined the flow a little bit the way he handled it but probably some of the best work i've ever seen on the daily show in my life and let's face it you've been around my life but he's been around for a while and it is uh... a kind of a gathering of quotes about how we're going to get off foreign oil that go back to Nixon. Every single president saying pretty much the same thing, including Barack. And it he's got I don't know how much work they put into this thing. They gave it a long time on the show because eight minutes is most of the show. But it was the amount of research that went into pulling these clips

10:30 Was astonishing. I mean it was a jaw-dropper. Okay. Well, I don't watch Jon Stewart. I think it's too late. It's 11 o'clock, right? It's on too late for me. It's on it's 4. It's on at 6. It's on it's 8. It's on at 10. Oh, it's that Jon Stewart channel, right? It's Comedy Central. They show stuff over and over. But anyway, the point is that I don't watch... You know, I've actually put him back on the DVR because Since Obama has turned into a kind of a punching bag. A punching bag, exactly. He, Stewart is up. He's back on his old form. He needs that. Well that's right. I mean it was great when Bush was president and it was funny because he had this enemy and I guess now Obama is his new enemy.

11:17 Yeah, not only that but I got a couple of other clips I decided to let lean left this week and listen to all these some of these shows like I decided to realize that joy Bayhar well, no I mean she is beyond, I mean this is supposed to be, this is off of CNN and they let somebody like this who's just a blatant promoter. Well technically it's HLN so it's your world in 20 minutes. It's what all the young kids are watching these days to get their news. HLN. They had a lot of Miley Cyrus on this show that's for sure. You know, should we just do this real news for one second?

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Perez Hilton, Miley Cyrus Upskirt Controversy

Celebrity blogger Perez Hilton, also known as Mario Lavandeira Jr., faces public backlash and potential legal scrutiny after posting an "upskirt" photo of Miley Cyrus, who is a minor. The incident is characterized as a distraction from larger news, though it sparks a discussion on the absurdity of specific indecency and pornography laws regarding stick figures and age labels.

perez hilton· miley cyrus· mario lavandeira jr· child pornography· celebrity news

11:58 And now, back to Real News. The big distraction which came flying across the wires yesterday is that celebrity blogger Perez Hilton posted an upskirt of Miley Cyrus who is of course a minor, minor Cyrus and he could go to jail. This is the big flap so to speak. Yeah, he'd go to jail for being a kiddie pornographer. Yeah, and you know what? Uh, for once, I think that would be great. Hey, this is gonna put it to the test. I've put Mario Landera Jr. I've met with him. I had a couple meetings. Mario Landera Jr. Perez Hilton. And I can safely say, 100%... He's a real dick. Yeah, I think most people would agree with that. But I mean, not just for the stuff he does, but just as a person. He's like, ugh, you're scary.

13:03 Okay, so do you want to do a Bayhar clip is that what you're telling the please no no no I want to put the Bayhar clip when we start talking about Obama's speech Because you're gonna talk about Obama's speech. I believe right Yes, well there's a couple of things Do you want to get right into that? Because the weird thing is I had a pretty big moment. Well, wait, let's finish the Perez Hilton thing. Well, that's it. I mean, you know, everyone... It's a distraction. It's just a distraction. Everyone's talking about it, but there's been no charges. There's nothing, you know, no one has gone to the feds. We could do it. We could go and complain. We say, hey, we think this guy should be in jail. This shows you how stupid these sex laws are. Anyway, so, um...

13:49 In fact, talking about how stupid the sex laws are, they are trying to indoctrinate us. We've talked about this before, about nudity is pornography and you know, the point is that, and I've actually asked some prosecutors about this and this is an absolute fact. If you draw a stick figure, stick figure, and put an arrow pointing to it and say naked eight-year-old. You can go to jail. You could go to jail and if you drew the exact same exact same no difference exact same stick figure right and put an arrow to it and said nude 18 year old that's okay. God we should so throw this jabroni in jail.

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

The Good Guys, Streakers as Sex Offenders

A clip from the television show The Good Guys prompts a discussion about the legal classification of streakers and public urination as sex offenses. The hosts argue that over-populating sex offender registries with minor offenders allows actual predators in high levels of government to hide in plain sight.

the good guys· fox· streaking· sex offender registry· law enforcement

14:32 So wait, I mean, yeah, I mean apparently I mean so so the kind of propaganda that comes out play the clip under clips to Streaker as sex offender. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is of course. Oh, please don't be streaking Hey What is that from?

15:11 That's great. It's from a kind of a cop comedy which I by the way think will probably be the end of these cop shows a very well-structured cop comedy called the good guys, which just all right that just debuted right let's go bust a punk damn streaker You know, it's funny, but it's not because I'm sure you'll be arrested and have to register as a sex offender. If you're in the park now, the idea is, I think you brought this up, there's so many pedophiles within. When you see a judicial guy or a legislator pushing this sex offender stuff, is generally because he's a pedophile. If you make everybody in the country a sex offender, and you can get away with murder. You can take a picture of the kid on a bare skin rug, you know that's a sex offense now. A streaking somehow is a sex offense. Peeing in the park is a sex offense. Then the real rapist sex offense pedophile creeps can hide in plain sight. Right, which is what they do and they're at the highest levels of government injustice and

16:09 People sometimes look at me like, are you out of your mind? Are you insane? And like first the answer of course is yeah, because I don't want to get shot. So please continue to call me a crackpot. But yeah, and the center of it is Gitmo Nation lowlands. That's where they are. They're sitting there. Highest levels of justice. Pedophiles. And they took me off a radio station and took down the whole station for me saying that. Yeah, good work. Yeah, well this is why we need to be user supported. And now I'm on the internet. Because they can't take us down unless they take down the internet and they're not doing that. Well, I hate to break it to you John, have you heard about the latest? It's not news. What do you mean it's not news? About the fact that Obama can flip a switch and kill the internet?

17:02 Yeah. Yeah, it's been around for a couple months now. Yeah, but it's heating up now because now the, you know, now there's a, it's a true proposal in the Senate. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Are you kidding me? Of course it's going to happen. Of course. If we're under attack. They're not going to do anything. It's too much. Oh, they could flip it off or reset it, but there's too much commerce. The economy would go into a tailspin and we'd be in a massive depression. Yeah, but John, you're missing the point. What do you think all that Sam knows secret sauce is in your Wi-Fi router for? That's what it's for. Of course commerce will continue. But not in yours. Yeah, right. Don't worry. It'll be at the head end or whatever they call it.

17:42 the head and so anyway but i got a kick out of that day that streaker a clip because that this woman's she says that's you know she says she is a streetkers a sex offender And they which is like it's got nothing to do with sex by the way streaking never had anything to do with sex So, how are you a sex offender? Okay, my parents used a bit you you struck didn't you struck? No. No, I was that I You were the guy egging him on you were holding their clothes. Yeah, I'll hold your clothes. Go ahead go street a lot of girls Back in the day. Yeah, I mean my mom used to joke about it That was like the big thing and when she was in college like we go so we go streak at the football game. Yeah, I

18:21 And so anyway, she says to the cop, he says, is that that's an offense? A sex offense? And she says, yeah. And then the cop says, whatever. Yeah, let's go bust the punk. I love it. That's perfect. Hey, John, so I've got a break for a second here. So I had a pretty big day Monday on my deathbed because I really had a horrible stomach virus and amongst other associated diseases. Causing H2S perhaps? H2S? Oh brother. A two-minute callback and you don't get it. Okay, go ahead. Oh yes, yes. H2S, yes. For real. I was intoxicating myself.

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Howard Stern Show, Host Conflict Over Promotion

A heated argument breaks out between the hosts following one host's appearance on The Howard Stern Show. One host expresses frustration that the other failed to mention his name, their company Mevio, or the specific premise of their podcast during the interview. The conflict includes comparisons to past slights by Dave Winer and a debate over whether the appearance actually drove traffic to the show's website.

howard stern· mevio· dave winer· podcast promotion· host bickering

19:09 And so I was on the Howard Stern show, which I thought was a pretty good appearance. And then you're like, well, and I said, well, what do you think? You know, I sent you a clip. You're like, I'll tell you on the show. I don't want to tell you now. So I figure you've got something negative to say. No, I didn't have anything negative to say. It'd be nice if you maybe mentioned your partner, because it was my show, my show, my show. Oh, Dave Weiner. Is that who I'm talking to? Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, hi Dave. How are you? Oh, hi Dave. And since I had the crew at Mevio, you didn't mention Mevio, your own company, even once. Really?

19:49 Really I talked about the company a lot. Yes. No. Well, you know what? Let me tell you everyone knows it's me vo because I was a hot trending topic on on Google And you know what happens when you're a hot trending topic on Google people click on you the spammers come out Oh you get spam. Oh, no. Well So of course like any good narcissistic person I have Google Alerts set up for my name and So when you're a hot trending topic then all of these spam bots jump into action. They start creating thousands of web pages with your name Oh, SEO guys. Oh my god, and so I just got you know email after email I'm like wow what's going on and you're clicking all these links like pulling you know Viagra all this stuff starts popping up It's completely it's Google is is lame. There's it's completely gamed the whole thing. It's it's out of control I've been bitching about this and I and I don't see it ending I

20:48 So, um... This is the weed whacker. So first of all, apologies if you feel slighted that I didn't mention your name. No, I just thought it was an opportunity to mention my name because I could use the publicity. But, uh... I'll tell you why... Well, your name... And you didn't say what the show was about, which I thought was a mistake. Oh, God. You know, do you have any idea how careful you have to be in a Howard Stern interview? If I had said what the show was about, then it would have ended very differently. Then it would have ended in total disaster. You cannot give the guy an inch. If you give him one inch of anything that he can noodle into and tear your part over, he will.

21:38 Well, you did avoid. Oh, you know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I did it now. Fuck you Dave Weiner. Maybe didn't mention me any other credit You did give yourself all the credit for what I said we we are making money You said my show my show my show as if you're like doing this single show and it was and then you never said what? Was about sound like a music show you're doing we didn't pick up any traffic. I We were monitoring it in real time. Oh yeah? I saw about ten times as much traffic to noagendashow.com. What are you talking about? You don't see any numbers. What are you talking about? That's what they were doing at the office. They were looking for traffic spikes. They didn't see any. You're a fucking baby. I'm just telling you. You didn't mention my name. You mean me, me, me. Yeah, it was, you know, I did it in the morning. I got noagendashow.com. You got in the morning at the very end. You could have said it right at the beginning. You didn't do that either. What the fuck? Fuck you.

22:36 I'm just telling you, you wanted a commentary. No, I wanted commentary, I didn't want a baby to be like... Oh, I'm sorry, all you want is praise. No, no, no. That's it. Yeah, that's right, that's right. You know what? That's right. You know what they all say? They're right. All I want is for you to suck my dick. That's right. So you're getting free healthcare and free cell phone. That's it. Now this is the kind of thing we need more on the show. We need some more support. People like it when we bicker. No, I don't like it because you've seriously got me of all the things you could have said of all the things you didn't mention my name is like my show my show my show well guess what it is my show okay Jesus Christ no wonder your kids are fucked up Oh brother it's that homeschooling they're probably gonna turn into terrorists that could be you calm down now no I'm livid

23:35 I'm livid. I finally go out and I get some real promotion for the show. You could be on a thousand shows, you do one thing once. This is not one of a thousand shows. This is a show that... That you yourself say is marginalized, but in fact you've said it on this show. Ah, that's different. No, no, no. I said Howard Stern is marginalized because the media doesn't talk about him anymore. Has nothing to do with the fact that he has a huge audience that is probably listening to us right now. I would like to hear anyone in the Twitter army or in the chat. Oh, I need my friends to come and help me. Please tell me, tell me I'm right. If you're just gonna be this way about this, I'm sorry I brought it up. You should be. No, I mean, it's okay for you to be upset I didn't mention your name. I wasn't upset, I just said that it was nice. If you showed some consideration, in the least,

24:33 And did one of two or three things. One, you didn't mention MeVeo the entire interview. Well, that was an oversight. I talked about the company the whole time. I'm sorry it was 3.30 in the morning. Sorry. Sorry. I talked about what we do. I talked about that we're helping people make money. So yeah, that's a good point. Valid point. But I didn't... I felt it was not prudent to go into what our show was about without him asking Because then then he'll be like, oh, what are you like? Yeah. Okay. I'll give you that You know, you got to be careful with these things. So I figured you know, as long as they spell your name, right? It's good press. But of course they didn't spell your name because I didn't mention you because it's only my show That's the only three comments. I had the rest of it. I thought was a little boring boring

25:29 Yeah, don't you think it was boring? He didn't have any good questions to ask. He just kept grilling you about how much money could be made. It was almost like listening to Charlie Rose when he gets carried away with how much money you make and what does it feel like to be a millionaire? The guy's got half a billion dollars. You should be interviewing him. Alright, well I'm sorry I did it though. Because now it's put bad blood between us. There he goes. No, well when you calm down we can we can get back to this show. No go ahead I mean since you're so important on the show, please Carry it carry it as usual. I never said that I carried the show. No, I Just thought it'd be nice if you mentioned my name. Is that asking too much? I always mention your name I've done a number of shows well because no one knows John C. Dvorak. Okay, I

26:27 Alright, alright. Well, I apologize. I'm sorry. I thought I did a good job. I thought I did a good job for the show and apparently well if we start I didn't see any apparent apparently the name recognition for the show is Is not enough. I have to have a checklist next time Yes of people to thank and I want to thank you know what you should I'll thank you and your buddy You know how much time we're wasting on this. I don't think it's wasted time I have no agenda, do you? I'm just saying, no I don't, but you seem to have one right now just to belittle me. Belittle you? You called me Dave Weiner. What's the most insulting thing you can tell anybody? Well that's exactly what Dave Weiner did when I did an interview about podcasting. You didn't mention my name. You just did it again. What? What did I do again? You called me Dave Weiner. No, I'm explaining why I'm making that analogy.

27:26 Because this is it's a complete repeat for me when I was out promoting podcasting Fine whiner got all bent out of shape that I didn't say were you doing a show with whiner? I didn't realize that actually I was yeah Yes, I was and you talked about the show and you never mentioned him. No, I was talking about podcasting. Well, that's different Okay, whatever I have respect for you. I have respect for your opinion and your feelings So if you were here, I'd hug you I'd say I'm sorry. I'll make it up to you. It's just a comment I made. Yeah, that's okay. Point taken. So this is why we need your users, we need listener support. Why? So you can hear more of this. Why? I hear radios all around the world turning off. Actually they never turn off that stuff. But talking about bad acting,

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Rebel Without a Cause, Netflix DVD Quality

A critique of the classic film Rebel Without a Cause leads to complaints about the declining quality of physical Netflix DVDs. The hosts describe receiving scratched discs that malfunction in players and express a preference for modern action films over slower-paced classics like Rosemary's Baby.

rebel without a cause· james dean· netflix· rosemary's baby· dvd rental

28:35 I got a clip for you. I didn't realize by the way what a crappy movie Rebel Without a Cause was. You mean Marlon Brando? No, with uh, no James Dean. I'm sorry. Natalie Wood. That was the wild one, I'm sorry. Yeah. Uh, you know, uh, it's black and white. Ah! It's in color. Really? Was that not a colorized version you saw? I don't think so. Hmm. Okay, it was so grim that you would just there's a bunch of movies I've seen that I imagine were in color or black and white then when I went to see him again It was just the opposite. Okay, so you have it. You want the worst movie? I think it's got so much praise and I was watching part of it It's it's just the most unbelievably bad movie I've ever seen I can't believe that and James Dean I don't see what the big deal is. Okay, it's my pet peeve of the day. You can play the clip or not. I

29:35 Well, that wasn't a real good setup. I mean, do you want to... The clip of Rebel Without a Cause, you mean? Yeah. Jimbo. Jimbo. You awake? Dad? Can I ask you something? Sure. Sure, Jimbo. Shoot. Suppose you had to do something. Yeah, you're right. It's horrible. Did you just want to go pee? Is that why you wanted me to play this two and a half minute clip of Rebel Without a Cause? You know, we have Netflix. Miki insisted on getting Netflix and I'm like, yeah, you're gonna regret it. And you do regret it because the quality of the DVDs that show up are so crappy. But we got Rosemary's Baby the other day.

30:27 You mean they're crappy? They're quality, they, there's scratches on it and they get stuck and they don't eject and there's always something with these Netflix DVDs. Because you know, you get them from other people and they're like, I don't know, they use them as coasters. And so we rented Rosemary's Baby, which is another classic. And it's like, all right, slow. You know, I need like explosions and action and stuff and just a story with old cars doesn't hit, doesn't do it anymore. Okay. Yeah, I don't get back to Obama. We must find a common enemy That'll help go ahead what you got your show I found that I think the whole thing that did go about you Did you get any clips from the speech? I didn't pull anything from the speech because what I've Because first of all, it's been played over and over and over again and and I was thinking we could pull it apart but maybe it's more interesting what happened yesterday and

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

BP Escrow Account, Kenneth Feinberg and Jamie Gorelick

The $20 billion fund established by BP is identified as an escrow account rather than a traditional fund, suggesting the terms of payout may be hidden from the public. Kenneth Feinberg, who managed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund, is appointed to oversee the payouts, while Jamie Gorelick, a former 9/11 Commission member, serves as BP's lead attorney. The hosts suggest this "cabal" is using the 9/11 playbook to limit BP's liability and prevent future lawsuits.

bp· kenneth feinberg· jamie gorelick· 9/11 commission· escrow account

31:32 And the point that and you know, I don't have to play a clip for everyone to understand the point I think that what this so there was a meeting between and this meeting included some amazing people by the way I've done a little bit of work on them. So the meeting between BP and the president and So the president comes out and he says well, you know We worked it all out with BP and this is just such an amazing astounding great move They're going to put 20 billion dollars. They're gonna set that into escrow. By the way, the way this shows up in the press is here's the Wall Street Journal, who you would expect to do some proper journalistic reporting. Their headline is BP agrees to $20 billion fund. Now there is a tremendous difference between a fund and an escrow account, particularly if an escrow account is administered by a quote independent third party, which can only be a bank because banks keep money like that.

32:33 So BP first of all doesn't have 20 billion dollars in cash. They have about 6 billion in cash. I've looked at their balance sheet. So they said that they're going to make immediate significant reductions in capital spending. They're going to sell off some assets to generate about 10 billion of the 20 billion in the next 12 months. And then they're going to figure out where they get the rest from. So to put 20 billion dollars into an escrow account, which an escrow account is essentially it's a bank account and there's a huge document which could be hundreds or thousands of pages long which determines how the escrow pops and it can be on either side. It can go back to the originator of the funds. And to me this is a brilliant move. BP's like holy crap

33:25 We're in trouble, let's get the money out. So it's the most logical thing to do is to get it out and put it into a bank account. Safe! And we'll never see the terms of the escrow. We'll never see that. It's not a fund. It's not like a fund that someone administers the fund. No, it's an escrow account and no one's talking about it. There's a fundamental difference between an escrow account and a fund. So I think it's a brilliant move to Well, some we have to get a hold of the document. That's the only we'll never see that document ever. And they're not because that'll be the smoking gun. And then to add insult to injury, they put Kenneth Feinberg in charge of doling out the money.

34:10 Kenneth Feinberg really? This is the guy who was in charge of a number of payouts to slaves of Gitmo Nation. He was the special paymaster for the 9-11 victims compensation fund, which was a beautiful setup. 98% of all the families, and by the way we don't know how much each family received because that was all kept secret, taxpayer money kept secret as to how much they received. You could only take your 9-11 compensation money if you signed an agreement that said you would never sue the government or the Israeli security company that let the terrorists, so-called terrorists, onto the planes.

34:53 So this is going to be exactly the same thing. Hey, you want some money? Alright, come over here, sign this document, shut up, you can never ever sue the government over the fact that you are dying of, what is it, H2K? What is that stuff? The... H2S? H2S. Well, no, that wouldn't be the case. Well, you can't sue the government ever. Or BP or anyone else for that matter or Halliburton or any of these other companies that are involved with this just take the money and shut up. And they put this jabroni back in charge of it. And then when he does and then who else was at the table? Jamie Gorlick. Jamie Gorlick was of is the the lead attorney for BP. Now do a little bit of research on Jamie Gorlick. Jamie Gorlick happened to be a 9-11 Commission member.

35:44 The one who constructed the so-called wall of separation that kept the CIA and the FBI from comparing notes back when Jamie's was with the Clinton administration. The whole cabal has been brought in for this thing. This is the biggest snow job in history. And I'll give you my theory on this. And by the way, it's not like BP stock tanked all of a sudden. How they doing today? Is BP like down and completely dead? No. I don't even have to look. No way, because everyone who's in the game is laughing about it. Oh, this is great. Our money's safe. It's in the escrow account. That's good. So if we have to go bankrupt, we'll just buy up all the assets, which is just paper from BP. That'll all go to other companies these people are all invested in. And the money's safe. And the victims, that $100 million fund, which is an actual fund, that's what people will get paid out of.

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Abiotic Oil Theory, Lindsey Williams Claims

The theory of abiotic oil—the idea that oil is a regenerative mineral process rather than a fossil fuel—is proposed as the reason for the Gulf spill's intensity. Citing pastor Lindsey Williams, the hosts suggest BP drilled into a high-pressure "motherlode" with volcanic properties that they cannot contain. The relief wells are characterized as an attempt to capture this massive resource rather than simply stopping the leak.

abiotic oil· lindsey williams· peak oil· deepwater horizon· relief wells

36:40 And by the way, we also learned that BP's total liability, as we've been saying on the show, was only $75 million. They didn't have to pay billions and billions, they weren't. Taxpayer money was being used for that. Part of the $2.7 billion fund that was set up as a part of the Environmental Protection Act under Bush. So here's what's really going on. These guys, they drilled into something spectacular. Something which is known as abiotic oil. And that is of course only a theory that abiotic oil exists and that's something I think you actually buy it. Bye darling, break a leg. That's something that you actually believe in as well is that there is no such thing as peak oil but abiotic oil that deep in the bowels of the earth oil is being recreated, it's a regenerative process.

37:34 and they drilled into this mother load which was a very dangerous thing for them to do and I think I've mentioned this before and Lindsey Williams actually is the guy going around saying all this and he's been right before about when it comes to oil. You got to Google him. Lindsey Williams? Yes, Lindsey Williams. He was a pastor in Alaska and he apparently got pretty close to a lot of the oil cabal and so he's called a lot of prices right A lot of different things. He's been extremely... This guy's like 78, 79 years old. Someone's calling me for some reason. So anyway, the Russians hit this motherlode in the... I was gonna say it was the 70s. No, the 80s.

38:23 And they drilled down to 40,000 feet, but they were on land and so they were able to cap all this stuff and stop what they had drilled into because the pressure is so enormous. BP did this and they hit the mother load and of course they don't have the technology to actually stop it. What they're trying to do is drill these relief wells because then they'll be able to siphon all this awesome stuff up. That's what the relief wells are about. It's not about relieving the spill. It's about them being able to actually get into this mother load and suck it all up. But they drilled into something that has volcanic properties. This is the center of the earth. They drilled into some amazing bang thing.

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Corexit Toxicity, Gulf Air Quality Reports

Reports from the Louisiana Environmental Action Network and Democracy Now! highlight the health risks faced by cleanup workers in the Gulf. BP is accused of preventing workers from wearing gas masks to avoid negative media imagery, despite the presence of 2-butoxyethanol in the dispersant Corexit and fluctuating levels of hydrogen sulfide in the air.

corexit· 2-butoxyethanol· h2s· louisiana· air quality

39:06 And it's way too powerful for any blowout preventer device. There's no way they could stop any of this. And it is blowing out... I have a news clip for you. Hold on. Give me your assessment of this, John. You understand these chemicals much better than I do. This is oil concerns aren't just limited to the waterways and marshes There are also worries how the oil may be affecting air quality along coastal, Louisiana Maya Rodriguez has that part of the story There are the oil effects you can see and the ones you can't like when oil compounds break down and go airborne We don't want to be alarmist, but we want to be realistic for several weeks now the federal Environmental Protection Agency has been tracking what's in the air by using a mobile truck and

39:54 She looks moronic, doesn't she? She's a...ugh. Yeah, right? What? She doesn't sound very bright either. No, she's just reading. As BP takes direct response actions, all can irritate the eyes, nose, throat and lungs, and in some cases lead to nausea and dizziness. So what have they found? Some elevated levels, but not on every day and not for long periods of time. So this is the interesting, this is what caught my attention. Elevated levels, but they fluctuate wildly. The levels have not been that high.

40:51 Is it something that we want out there? Absolutely not. This is a public health official of course. But it's pretty far offshore. Take hydrogen sulfide, commonly known as swamp gas. A normal level ranges from 5 to 10 parts per billion. At the Venice station on May 2nd, the levels recorded were 30 parts per billion. The next day, the reading was nearly 40 times that at nearly 1,200 parts per billion. And the day after that, it dropped down to 46. before rising the next day to more than a thousand. It varies depending on the wind direction, depending on whether or not they're burning the slick. I think what they're saying is that it's an okay exposure for a short amount of time and we have a concern about that sort of exposure for any amount of time. Okay, so if you want to see the rest of that report you can, but then on democracy... First of all, by the way, swamp gas as far as I know is methane.

41:46 Well, I'm not saying they have all of their ducks in a row, but I think the data they have here from the Louisiana Environmental Action Network who analyzed the EPA data is specifically talking about H2S. and the levels found in the air, which the fluctuation is what I find interesting. Now, Democracy Now!, and this is a long clip, so I'll just play a little bit. Really and these guys you know talk about boring. It's a democracy now It's almost impossible to sit through but they do have some in this case They got a really interesting guy on who's really telling the truth about What's happening to people who are trying to were down there some who have been? Tried to assist with the cleanup and they're falling down there. They're going into hospital

42:45 Oh, that's why they have this. That's why the BP people are rousting any news reporters that go down there. Exactly. Well, it gets even worse. I think I can find this piece. Sorry, I didn't have time to pull the clips. The guy says that they had people with gas masks and BP wouldn't let them on the beach if they were wearing gas masks because they didn't want, you know, they don't want any news footage of people wearing gas masks because they're dying down there. That would make sense. And then these people go straight into the hospital. So let me just get this guy on for a second because he's actually pretty damn good. This is a situation that has been ongoing for several weeks now. Having had prior training and experience working with oil and the chemicals in oil and their dangers. Oh, nice freeze. In oil and their dangers.

43:53 What is that? Several fishermen out on the work site, they were complaining of burning eyes and strong smells and my experience told me that they were getting exposed to dangerous chemicals. The benzines, all the light ends off the crude and this Corexit is a new experience for me. I have been doing some research. It contains a substance called to butoxyethanol. He goes into the whole Corexit thing, but if you watch the whole interview, and I wish I'd pulled that clip, the seminal part is where he says, you know, I brought gas masks down for my people who I've been working and living with for years and BP would not allow them to wear the gas masks. And then now there's like 11 or 15 people in the hospital. And

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Rig Worker Rumors, Planned Blowout Theory

An anonymous report from a rig worker via Above Top Secret claims that Navy Intelligence and commandos have taken control of certain offshore platforms. The rumor suggests the Deepwater Horizon blowout may have been a planned event to destroy an unprofitable well and clear the way for more lucrative drilling in the same reserve, though the hosts remain skeptical of a deliberate sabotage.

above top secret· navy intelligence· martial law· gulf of mexico· conspiracy theory

44:49 There was also an email, now this is dodgy because of course this showed up on abovetopsecret.com but worth mentioning. This is from someone on one of the rigs that is either still drilling or has been halted and they're still on the rig. Everyone here is talking about it but no one dares to say anything about it even to their families. There's something happening about a hundred miles southeast of the rig with several Navy and Coast Guard ships. Friday, two serious looking dudes arrived and started directing our sup. I don't know what sup is. What is a sup? Apparently they showed Navy intelligence ID when they arrived along with a dozen commandos. Rumors that now going to call martial law. All of us will be prevented from leaving the ships to see our families. Things are going from bad to crazy.

45:44 Nearly everyone here is of the belief that the blowout was planned as a way to destroy a well that had too many problems to be ultimately profitable and to get two new wells drilled that will be wildly profitable and the only way to do that was to destroy this one. We calculated that even with paying cleanup costs, the profit on two wells in this reserve will far outweigh the cost in less than a year. Yeah, you're not buying it? I'm not buying it because it seems it's like they blow they do what 10 to 11 22 people 11 people are killed They lose the rig, the whole thing blows up and now they got nothing but bad publicity and this real oil coming out. I mean what's wrong with that? It just doesn't make sense to me. Well, see, I think that this was really an accident. I think that they did hit... I'm pretty convinced. I'm sticking with this Lombardier thing. I think there was a poorly constructed well where

46:41 Wellhead and they told him to shut it down. They wouldn't do it and the thing blew up and now they're stuck with it I'm absolutely convinced. It's all there is to it. Now you think that this is just a normal regular old well, and it couldn't be some incredible Obviously this the slumber J guys I wish they would testify Saw something about the thing was just an unstable situation I don't know if they expected to be one of these deep these one of these a biotic structures, I'm not sure. All I know is I think it was a poorly constructed well and they were slipshod and the thing fell apart and now they're stuck with the consequences. I don't think it's a scheme afoot. No, well, I don't think there was a scheme set up beforehand, but I think they hit something really big. I think it is out of control.

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

MMS Corruption, Cap and Trade Legislation

The Minerals Management Service (MMS) is criticized for its lack of oversight and reported culture of corruption involving oil company lobbyists. The hosts argue the Obama administration is using the spill crisis to ramrod Cap and Trade legislation through Congress and transition the economy toward "green" energy while shifting major oil production to South America.

mms· minerals management service· cap and trade· barack obama· ken salazar

47:35 I'm really going to buy into this toxicity of whatever's coming out is not just oil, but it's all kinds of volcanic crap coming from the middle of the earth and it's going to kill everyone and everything down there. And the president in his speech for all intents and purposes already killed the whole region because he said, look, we're just going to stop all drilling until we figured this out. Well, that could be years. So it's done. It's over. And it's not just shrimping people do down there. Would you say that the shrimp industry is larger than the petroleum industry on the Louisiana coast? I don't know what the numbers are. It's my belief that that whole region is pretty much petroleum and in the seasons they go out and they do some shrimping. So there's reports now it's apparently some of these cracks that this is the cement job it seems to be part of it. Here's a Bloomberg story just ran on the 17th.

48:33 Apparently the BP was struggling to seal, I like this BP, PLC, was struggling to seal, which means it's just like you said a holding company, struggling to seal cracks in its Macondo well as far back as February, more than two months before the explosion. Took 10 days to plug the first cracks according to reports. Cracks in the surrounding rock continue to complicate the drilling operation during the ensuing weeks. Yeah. Left unsealed, they can allow explosive natural gas to rush up the shaft. Yeah. All of this to me is just bull. All I know is we're being indoctrinated with spill cam video on every single channel showing this gushing thing flowing out. The intent is for, they're turning this into a 9-11. They've brought in the 9-11 people

49:33 They just pulled out the playbook. What do we do again? Oh, yeah, call Kenneth. Yeah, bring him in. We know how to do this. Only this time it wasn't an actual setup like 9-11. It was an actual accident. But how do we not let this crisis go to waste? Well, let's kill the region. Let's make sure we drill these two holes so we can still get all of that oil. It'll go into a new company that buys up the assets of BP. I can feel exactly what's happening already. It'll buy it all up. They'll and they'll take over those two holes and everything moves down to Brazil That's where all the new oil is and then of course they're gonna go closer to Haiti and Jamaica Which is the new the new paradise?

50:14 and the drilling in Louisiana, it's all over, it's done. And please, while we're at it, let's pass cap and trade. This is a perfect opportunity. The vote, I think one of the first votes is coming up before July 4th. So that's being ramrodded through. The president in his speech, you know, immediately takes advantage of the situation. But we need to... And I love it when everyone's talking about reducing your dependence upon foreign oil. This is not foreign oil, this is US oil. Sitting right there on the US shelf. Oh, we gotta reduce our dependence upon foreign oil. We gotta drive electric cars. It's stupid. This is what they're going to use to try and kickstart the green economy. And, um...

50:55 And the whole fix is in and then all of this bullshit, all this theater about Halliburton or Schlumberger and who's to blame and let's put the people on the stand. Why don't I see the people from the minerals department of what is it? Mineral MMS? Minerals and Management Services. Yeah, how come those guys aren't in the stand who were like doing coke and screwing hookers with the oil companies? Because that's what everyone says. Where are they? How come they're not in the stockade? They're probably screwing hookers. Yeah, but that's it means ridiculous this they there's oversight. They had permission and licenses to do this

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Congressman Ed Markey, Oil Response Plans

Congressman Ed Markey reveals during hearings that the emergency response plans submitted by major oil companies were virtually identical, including references to protecting walruses in the Gulf of Mexico. The hosts point out the hypocrisy of the government blaming companies for plans that the government itself approved without reading.

ed markey· bp· halliburton· gulf of mexico· congressional hearing

51:35 from the government. I know let's put all these other people, all these actors, let's put them on the stage. Somehow they're trying to blame Bush for everything. Of course and it was it was uh Lazar, was it Lazar is that his name? Salazar. Salazar who was Bush's guy of the interior and Obama just kept him on just like Robert Gates of security, the defense secretary kept all of the important guys on because that was his job is just take the baton and walk with it and Salazar was all I'm gonna clean it all up. Let's get that guy on put that guy in front of television. What were you doing? I haven't seen any of these guys. I did see Markey though the guy who's behind cap-and-trade grilling the oil company executives and he came up with this very interesting thing I have a clip of it

52:25 uh... revelation that all their emergency plans which they had submitted i guess to mms uh... were not only identical but totally bogus and kinda cut and pasted and thrown into the and nobody gave a shit and the irony is of course markey brings it up now he's the big energy nutball in the in the congress that is pushing all this stuff how come you have committed nobody noticed this before including him was he bring it up after the fact you can play this market These five companies have response plans that are virtually identical. The plans cite identical response capabilities and tout identical ineffective equipment. The covers of the five response plans are different colors, but the content is 90% identical.

53:15 Like BP, three other companies include references to protecting walruses which have not called the Gulf of Mexico home for three million years. Two other plans. such dead ringers for VPs that they list a phone number for the same long dead expert. Yeah, no, I agree with you John. I love that we're now all of a sudden we're coming out with, oh this well had these problems before, this happened in February. Well how come the government is to blame? Of course these companies don't give a crap about anybody and about environment or people. We know, we all know that.

53:57 Because they're all in the same game. They're all part of the same cabal Then now they're just let's just push this actor out in front. Hey, Tony Tony. Hey, what he looks pretty good He has a nice British accent. Yeah. Yeah put him in there And the president just walks right over the fact that, oh, you know, it was the minerals management, you know, that won't happen again. He promised when he went in, he promised that he was going to clean all of that up and Salazar was the guy who was going to do it. He was going to take care of it all. Secretary of the Interior. These are the people that need to be blamed first. First.

54:36 And it's, well they didn't read the plans, they didn't... Let me get this straight. You've got a Democratic president, a Democratic Senate, and a Democratic House of Representatives, and so the first thing you think they're gonna do is go after themselves. Yeah. It's more about pointing out that it doesn't matter. Democrat, Republican, it doesn't fucking matter. It's these oil, the people behind the oil companies. They run the whole show, they run the world. They don't care, they really don't care. And Obama is in their pocket. You know, his stock is vested in... Hold on a second, let me find it for you. There's a fund that the president put all of his assets into when he became president.

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Vanguard Wellington, Obama Blind Trust

A discussion of President Obama's financial assets reveals that his blind trust is invested in the Vanguard Wellington fund, which holds significant positions in major oil companies. The hosts suggest this creates a conflict of interest while the administration publicly criticizes BP and the oil industry.

barack obama· vanguard wellington· blind trust· bp stock· investment

55:25 Which I think is normal, right? Yes, usually a blind trust. Right. Well the blind trust is... hold on, I got to look at insiders here. Major holders. There's two. It's Vanguard. Vanguard Wellington. This is what President Obama has his money vested with. and uh... these guys own about one percent of all of the p vanguard if you put all their funds together there are there all their office it's it's like it's infuriating yet not surprising at the same time well it's ok so what do you what do you think is going to happen because all you've done is just bring up the fact that the whole situation is corrupt we're not being told anything ok and uh... i mean and you know maybe they've struck a goldmine of uh...

56:23 of never-ending supply of oil or perhaps ruining the process. You haven't considered this possibility. Let's assume that abiotic oil is actually something real. Is it possible by drilling a hole into the main mother load that's supposed to be replenishing the pools that you're going to kill the process? No, I think I think, no you don't, well obviously I don't, it's very theoretical about aviotic oil. But I do have a feeling that it's certainly possible, so it may not be replenishing the other wells, but if it's a process then the mother load keeps going, they drill two of these relief wells, they put whoever BP is going to be, because BP will go out of business, it's just gonna shift over to another company.

57:12 And by the way, BP was already a roll up of, what is it, maybe 10 different companies that rolled up into BP? It's just like a big holding company. So another holding company will come in, they'll own those wells, that is the true mother load. They'll just keep that stuff pumping and pumping forever under the guise of you're not allowed to drill. So everyone else, get the hell out. All the smaller players, get out of the gulf region, no more drilling for you, the new BP, We'll just call it that. The new BP will be sitting on the mother load, they'll be pumping. Everyone else goes off to South America because it's dead. You can't drill anymore. It's all over. So everyone has to go. That whole region is going to die both economically and physically because of the toxins and because they don't give a crap and the president's focusing you on the shrimpers. Well, it's not just the shrimpers.

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Nabucco Pipeline, Turkey and Gazprom Geopolitics

Geopolitical shifts in the natural gas market are linked to new sanctions against Iran's energy sector. The Nabucco pipeline, intended to bring gas through Turkey to Europe, is highlighted as a point of contention between Western interests and Russia's Gazprom, with the Gulf oil spill serving as a backdrop for these tectonic shifts in global energy control.

nabucco pipeline· gazprom· turkey· iran sanctions· natural gas

58:03 And now we're going to move into the natural gas phase, because while all of this is taking place in Louisiana, we're seeing huge shifts with Gazprom and Russia trying to supply all of Europe with natural gas. They are about to, we're going to see another accident or something and I think it's going to be another one of these flotilla incidents. In fact, no coincidence that little Timmy Geithner came out yesterday with new sanctions against Iran, but not just against Iran, against all the gas companies in Iran. Because those guys have been working on a new pipeline that they desperately need to stop because Iran was going to supply natural gas to Europe.

58:46 So it's just shifts, it's just tectonic shifts in who is running the show. And these guys are all fighting each other at the top levels. Let me find the... I'll give you the name of the pipeline. Remember I talked about BlueStream the other day? No, I don't remember that. Yeah, well, yeah, that was the original, the BlueStream one was set up by Enron. Oh right, the Enron pipeline. Right, so, let me... oh shit. Oh crap, I didn't mean to do that. Uh, here it is. Now I'm, I got a lot of people that I'm talking to about this and I really don't think I'm far off on uh, here it is. I don't know. Well, here it is. Um, the Nabucco. That's it. Nabucco. You can Google that one. Nabucco gas line. And guess who's involved with the Nabucco gas line? Turkey. It's supposed to go through Turkey and then from Turkey into Europe. Well guess who's the big asshole these days? Turkey.

1:00:00 So they're trying to stop that because it all has to come from Russia. So yeah, so I think we can see this unfold and you'll see that yes, this leak will not stop. That's why we have the continuous looped video. of the oil well so you can constantly be reminded it's going on, it's going on, we have to have these very important BP vessels there. And meanwhile they're just going to be sucking it all up. They're just turning this into a complete benefit. Yeah, we'll just drill these little holes here that we can manage. We'll start sucking the oil there, we'll keep the continuous loop rolling. They'll be rolling in the dough because there's no way we're getting off oil anytime soon. Not in my lifetime. We're just going to keep it rolling.

1:00:42 And everyone else will be all consumed with the congressional hearings. I think that's what's going to happen. And it will not stop. It's the new 9-11 is what it is. The new 9-11 and they brought in all the same players. Well, it's a grim picture you're painting. Yeah, no wonder I'm pissed. And while we're on that, just to show you how these cover-ups work because I'm sure in 10 years people will be talking about this as we were talking about 9-11 today. And uh... They'll still be going in 10 years, they'll keep the loop going. Yeah, oh yeah, the loop, it'll be all scratchy and shit. Wow, I'd never seen that before. There was a Freedom of Information Act, just to show you how ludicrous this all is. Remember on 9-11, there was a

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

SEC FOIA Request, 9/11 Put Options Destroyed

A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request regarding suspicious put options on airline stocks prior to September 11, 2001, resulted in a response from the SEC stating the records were destroyed. The hosts note that these records were reportedly housed in World Trade Center 7, which collapsed during the attacks, preventing an investigation into who profited from the tragedy.

sec· foia· 9/11· put options· world trade center 7

1:01:33 A whole bunch of people put down options on American Airlines and United Airlines and they made a huge amount of money. Killing is the word. A killing, literally a killing. So this is very interesting to find out. you know, who put those options on because the timing is rather uncanny. So now we are almost at the 10th anniversary of 9-11, no one gives a crap. We don't even know that Jamie Gorlick was on the 9-11 Commission and that she's being brought in by BP as a part of the dealmakers. They're all sitting around the table laughing. David Callahan, executive editor of SmartCEO,

1:02:14 I guess a financial analysis firm, submitted a Freedom of Information Act request to the SEC regarding the pre-911 put options. This is the gamble that something's going to go down. You know it'd be kind of interesting to know who had those put options the SEC responds with This letter is in response to your request seeking access to and copies of the documentary evidence referred to in footnote 130 of chapter 5 of the September 11 Commission report because it was mentioned in the Commission report We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's their response

1:02:59 We have been advised that the potentially responsive records have been destroyed. Sorry. Shut up, slave. Go away. And you know how they were destroyed, John? Do you know where they were? They were in WTC 7. WTC 7 won't go away! Exactly. That's exactly where those records were. Those puts and calls had to be executed and the execution data has to be available somewhere because otherwise they wouldn't have gotten their money out. Right, but I'm just saying this is, we'll be looking at evidence like this in 10 years from now. We'll be looking back at this and there will be this big black mark on Google Earth and that will be Louisiana. Everyone will be dead. It'll be a complete no-go zone.

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Joy Behar and Janeane Garofalo, Liberal Disillusionment

Clips from Joy Behar's HLN show featuring Janeane Garofalo and Ron Reagan Jr. illustrate a growing disillusionment with President Obama among his liberal base. The hosts interpret this as an "awakening" where even staunch supporters are realizing the administration represents a continuation of previous policies rather than the promised change.

joy behar· janeane garofalo· barack obama· hln· media reform

1:03:50 because of the volcanic properties of this crap that's spewing out except for a bunch of guys on new BP rigs with gas masks and they'll be pumping out the mother load of abiotic oil. That's my theory. That's what's going to happen. Meanwhile, the left-wingers have turned on Obama. Which I think is probably, it feels like, I don't know, it feels like part of the setup. I don't know. and the but the thing is it seems to be the thing that triggered it and i have two pieces of info documentation for this one is jenny and a raffle o and ron reagan junior on bay har it's a very good clip actually waiting for her to show up again do you have a little she's back you have to see by the way does this very interesting classic left wing what they're all feel about obama and then uh...

1:04:42 and of course at the very end she gives Behar the needle for her coverage of Miley Cyrus. But this is, if you listen to the Behar hen house clip, you will get the gist of the way, not only that, but you get to hear exactly how Behar is in the Democrat camp to the point where this is a show for the Democrat party. You know, these guys want to change some of the laws about equal the what's the name of that law that i keep talking to talk about before fairness doctrine the fairness doctrine that this is this show here when he would be off the air instantly at talking points that is so much bush like i'd shocking that he's behaving this way i don't know who's giving him the worst advice in the world i don't know i don't know why this presidency has been as disappointing as it has been it's i really feel like he's being advised

1:05:38 terribly. Now there's the critics that will always criticize him and I don't think it's even valid to entertain the Tea Party kind of nonsense. And also now when they're saying they don't like government and now they want government to intervene in this. Oh I know, the hypocrisy. So the hypocrisy of some of his critics is not even really worth discussing. And also what scares me too is that you know he's getting attacked from the left and the right. He's really being attacked I think a lot. And who's going to take the place? Who are we going to get instead of him? Some Sarah Palin clone or she herself? It'll be even worse. Well, there's a difference between attacking and criticizing. Isn't that a scary thought? That's the dilemma for liberals. That's the dilemma for progressives and liberals is you get somebody worse if it's not Barack Obama. So what are we supposed to do about it? Even though Barack Obama is doing what we want him to do. What do we do about it? Keep lighting a fire under him. Keep doing what we're doing.

1:06:24 talking about it. It's all we can do really. I think media reform is important that people really do get full of fair information and more news about what's going on. How much more news do we need? Every station is news. Oh yeah, but it's not good. It's not well presented. There's not context and history and nuance and complexity. They have all this he said she said nonsense as if there is two sides to every story, which there isn't. It would be great if these news sources told the truth once in a while. That would be interesting. Well, we try to do our best here. Yeah, you So, um, all right. I think I know what's happening here. This is actually, this pleases me. This is the awakening of the American public. Wow. This, this actually all of a sudden it kind of just hit me. I like this.

1:07:16 It all kind of makes sense. Of course, as Americans, we, and I'm a red-blooded American, we love to be with the winning team, and then when the winning team is no longer winning, we're like, well, fuck you, I'm gonna go with these other guys. That's what we always do. And so despite cries, outcry of warning, and I would say from this program as well, We said, you know, this guy may not be what or who you think he is. Now all... Behar, of course, Garofalo says, oh it's his advisors. Jesus, what an idiot.

1:07:59 John Stewart, everyone who was way on board the Obama train and all the love and the lights and the flowers and the people and we are the world and kumbaya. Chris Matthews too is really attacking them. Yes, now everyone's seeing that oh wait a minute we fucked up by really supporting this guy because it's just more of the same. Say hello to the new boss, same as the old one. And now they're all turning on him because they want to protect their own ass because you cannot with even with a clear conscience support what's going on and I think it's an awakening John I think people saying oh Jesus Christ all that shit people were saying is true so I see this as a really good thing and I do like the fact is as big a douche as she is that Joy Behar is saying well what are we gonna get well thank you very much that's the whole point it's a big club and you're not in it Joy none of us are in it they're all sitting there in that little club

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Obama Prayer Speech, Egyptian Foreign Minister Claims

President Obama's use of religious rhetoric in his Oval Office speech is criticized by liberal commentators as a "cheap" tactic. Simultaneously, a report from Egyptian television claims Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit stated that Obama privately affirmed his Muslim heritage and sympathy for a Muslim agenda during a meeting.

barack obama· abul gheit· egypt· muslim agenda· oval office

1:08:51 So I think this is good. So yeah, I'm not going to argue the point, but the one thing that kind of ticks off these liberals more than anything, it seems to be Obama's reference to prayer, which Garofalo referred to as a cheap thing to do, and then Stewart took it to the next level, and I have this Stewart clip, which kind of, I think, summarizes the kind of a liberal attitude toward what Obama said. We will do whatever is necessary to help the Gulf Coast and its people recover from this tragedy. Okay, alright, so this was really a speech in the prime time of the nation in the Oval Office to give us an update. A little reassuring, classic Obama. It's cool. Everything's under control. Tonight, we pray for that courage. We pray for the people of the Gulf.

1:09:43 And we pray that a hand may guide us through the storm towards a brighter day I got this. It's okay. I got a commission. Everything's gonna be fine. May God have mercy on our souls I Mean if this is a commission-based administrative problem, what's with the freaky talk? Yeah There was there was something in the in the in his speech. He also said I This will not be the last crisis America faces. You don't say that shit. It's like what? You got something planned, something we don't know about? Speaking of prayer, now of course this would not be legible to play a clip. Now TV in Egypt had Egyptian Foreign Minister Abul Gait, Gait I think it is, translated something called the Roundtable Show.

1:10:47 And you know what, here's what he said. He said he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama, which I guess was a couple months ago, in which President Obama told him, quote, he was still a Muslim, the son of a Muslim father, the stepson of a Muslim stepfather, and his half-brothers in Kenya are Muslims, and he was sympathetic towards the Muslim agenda. And of course, Israel today is all over this, and they're freaking out about it. and you won't see much reporting of this in the lamestream media here in the United States. I just thought that was an interesting point to bring up when he's praying to God. Yeah, yeah, well...

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Birther Movement, Hawaii Newspaper Archives

The hosts discuss the persistent "birther" theories regarding President Obama's eligibility for office. They suggest that while birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers are strong evidence of his birth there, the possibility of the CIA planting or altering newspaper "morgue" archives makes it difficult for some to accept the official narrative.

barack obama· birth certificate· hawaii· star bulletin· cia

1:11:26 See, there's a couple new, I don't want to bring it up, but there's a couple new birther things floating around. Oh yeah, no, please do. I'm down with that. I didn't make a clip of it, but there's a, you know, it's just, you could look, it's on YouTube, you know, there's a guy that's apparently worked at the records office in Honolulu. Oh yeah, no, I saw that a couple weeks, it's been out for a while, I think. Yeah, he says all the I'm not you know you can't use the newspaper unless you can dig up unless somebody can find an old archive don't did this minor what exactly what the smoking gun is and it's you know it's a possibility but unless you can find an old somebody has a collection of the Hawaii Sun the Hawaiian there's a couple newspapers there and

1:12:11 that have crazy names. The Star, I think is one of them, or Star Times Bulletin or something like that. Both the newspapers, of course they're done by the same publisher, had the birth announcement and if somebody could find that, and there's documentation showing it, so that's pretty good evidence as far as I'm concerned, but if somebody can show that that was planted after the fact, like five years ago or three years ago or in 2005, By finding a copy of the paper that doesn't have it. Because you know, the CIA's been known to do stuff like that. Oh, a reprint?

1:12:48 What does it take? Yeah, nothing. Nothing at all. Oh yeah, reprints are done all the time. You go in there, you take the paper, you take all the copies from their own... Archives. Morgue. It's called a morgue. Oh, really? And you take the papers out, you replace them with a new one, which is aged and looks old, and then you leave. And that's the way it works. But unless somebody can find a copy of the paper that doesn't have it, Then I don't think there's an argument to be made. I think the rest of it is just a bunch of I don't even know why people are harping on it when less thing come up with that That's the smoking gun and I don't see any evidence that it exists. Yeah, but it but that is also just a distraction John Okay, so what so we've got the smoking gun. I mean really all all these people all tied up It's we just we really just don't understand or can't the lie is so big that we don't see

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Congressman Brian Baird, Congressional Insider Trading

Congressman Brian Baird's efforts to stop insider trading within Congress are highlighted via a Thom Hartmann clip. The segment describes how staffers for Tom DeLay and other members of Congress reportedly engaged in day trading based on non-public information about upcoming legislation and defense contracts, a practice that remains legal for lawmakers.

brian baird· tom delay· insider trading· lockheed martin· thom hartman

1:13:41 How big the game is. Well here's another big game thing which kind of came to I was watching like I said watching all the lefties this week and watching your friend Thaum Hartman. That's your friend my friend. And I have a clip that has nothing to do with any of this but it's just it's like it's just like what? Okay this is on trading? yeah well if you have to go on this program we were treated to the spectacle the fascinating uh... ongoing spectacle actually of congressman brian bear the democrat from washington state who is has kind of packed it in he's not running for re-election this year discovering

1:14:20 virtually by accident a member of his staff told him about it that over in time delays office this is back when time delay was still in the house representatives basically running house representatives that the staff members in delays office were day trading based on inside information they had about legislation that was coming up. So if they knew, for example, that a bill was going to be passed or even going to be introduced that was going to grant a billion dollar contract to Lockheed Martin, they would, they'd buy a whole bunch of calls for log, you know, options. to buy a Lockheed Martin. They would bet on Lockheed Martin going up. And similarly, if Lockheed Martin was competing with Boeing, for example, for that contract, they would buy bets against Boeing. So Brian Baird looked into this, Congressman Brian Baird looked into it, discovered it was actually happening in Tom DeLay's office, that his office staff was making millions of dollars doing this.

1:15:19 and that there was nothing illegal about it now in my first or try to do this she went to jail just for lying about it if you are i try to do this we would go to jail but there's nothing to prevent members of congress in doing it brian baird several times is trying to introduce legislation to stop this process this practice rather and it has not been stopped as of this date Oh totally, I mean and I'll give you another example of the big game. So you know that a lot of the big Silicon Valley venture capital firms of course you know there's all this money is running through them and they're and everyone's involved with each other. Billions. Oh if maybe it must it must broach trillions really but let's just say billions. So I get this email from one of our producers Zach and

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Fitbit, Biometric Surveillance and Metrics

The emergence of Fitbit and other wearable fitness trackers is viewed as a precursor to government-mandated health monitoring. The hosts argue that these devices, backed by major Silicon Valley venture capital, will eventually be used to enforce wellness standards and track citizen behavior under the guise of preventative healthcare.

fitbit· true ventures· softtech· biometrics· wearable tech

1:16:07 And he sends me, I don't think he even realized how right on point he was. I remember we were talking about bracelets, we'll have a bracelet for everything. So when you're sitting on your ass, an alarm bell will go off and the Federales will show up, tell you to get off your ass, slave. So he sends me this Silicon Valley venture-backed firm called Fitbit. And Fitbit is a bracelet that you wear, and Fitbit automatically tracks your fitness and sleep. Did I get enough exercise today? How many calories did I burn? Am I getting good rest? Learn more, purchase, $99. So this is a seemingly innocuous little company, although it started by some serial entrepreneurs and the backers are True Ventures and SoftTech. SoftTech I think is pretty big, right? I think they're a reasonably large firm. But it fits in perfectly.

1:17:06 with the Codex Alimentarius ruling that the president just handed down. Because this is, it's all about preventative measures. And you look at this Fitbit stuff, it's like, you know, prevent illness. So these guys, I'm trying to tie this together by saying that these guys know and they all clearly already knew just like when before green came out all these guys had their green funds already ready. They're on the inside, they know that this is coming out, they know the legislation is coming down the pike, they either they knew it or their lobbyist connections or whatever but they know what's happening and they start investing in companies that are going to make them billions of dollars because the government will,

1:17:43 Somehow, there's going to be some kind of rule or regulation that you have to be healthy and you might as well start selling shit that makes people healthy. Actually, that sounds pretty good. Yeah, so why don't people have to what what is it with people that have to you know I want to put a device on me so I know exactly how many hours sleep I'm getting and whether I'm you know walking enough and all these all these metrics I mean once you just live your life What do you need all these metrics about everything you do I find people like that to be extremely boring well It's being shoved down our throats and we're the American people are really I

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

National Prevention Council, Dietary Salt Restrictions

The establishment of the National Prevention, Health Promotion and Public Health Council under the new healthcare law is discussed. New dietary guidelines from 13 nutrition experts recommend limiting salt intake to 1,500 milligrams per day, a move the hosts characterize as the government overstepping its bounds to control individual lifestyle choices.

national prevention council· michelle obama· cdc· salt intake· health care act

1:18:22 really gullible when it comes to that stuff. But it's not bad. I mean, it's not bad to be educated about living healthy and eating healthy. And that's certainly good. But when it comes to... Yeah, but you have to be obsessed. Yeah. So this is part of the Dietary Guidelines Advisory Committee. Remember I read you that executive order the president came out with, which is all about that sitting down? That is essentially our version of the codex. I can't fully grasp why this stuff even exists. So this was the executive order establishing the National Prevention, Health Promotion and Public Health Council, Starfleet Command of Your Body. Section 6G contains specific plans to ensure that all prevention programs outside the Department of Health and Human Services are based on

1:19:23 the science-based guidelines developed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under subsection D of this section, which is all a part of section 4100 of the Health Care Act, where it specifically states that this council needs to be called to order. And who is in the council? Surgeon General, Secretary of Agriculture, Secretary of Labor, Secretary of Health and Human Services, Secretary of Transportation, Secretary of Education, Secretary of Homeland Security, Administrator of Environmental Protection Agency, Chair of the Federal Trade Commission, Director of National Drug Control Policy, and of course the Assistant Secretary of the Interior for Indian Affairs. Let's make no mistake. Well just in case they want to open a casino. But yeah, this is the dietary guidelines and a part of that and this is now being propagated everywhere because the council has only just been announced and already they have the dietary guidelines.

1:20:24 composed of 13 nutrition experts and you are not allowed to have any more than a teaspoon of salt a day, John. That is your limit. Really? What if I live in the Arizona desert? No, forget about it. Among the recommendations, Americans should consume no more than 1,500 milligrams of salt per day. Current guidelines... Doesn't this depend on the heat factor outside your house? No! Would you please shut up? The science is in! ...than it would be in Arizona? I'm sorry, I'm just trying to make you a good slave. The science is in. Also, children should be discouraged from drinking sugar-sweetened beverages. Because aspartame is good for ya!

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Listener Donations, Free Holobooks Promotion

The hosts read letters from donors, including Ryan Lackey and Alan Asaf. A promotion for FreeHolobooks.com highlights hollowed-out books used as iPad cases and "conversation starters." The segment also includes birthday shout-outs and the "de-douching" of several listeners who contributed to the show's value-for-value model.

ryan lackey· brian hill· freeholobooks.com· ipad case· donations

1:21:12 It's laughable and now it makes so much sense why Michelle Obama is in charge of the obesity task force. Yeah, well she's got other problems if she's gonna do that I'll tell you. So this is... No wonder she looks so grumpy. This is the government telling you what to do. So we have to mention a few people that gave us some money. Holy crap yeah do we ever. and I want to mention right now, starting with Ryan Lackey in London, Ontario, who gave us 87 bucks and he says he donated 87 bucks for two reasons. June 17th is my 29th birthday and by multiplying my age by the lucky number three, I'm hoping to accrue some good karma for the upcoming year to make my best ever, to make it my best ever. Secondly, my last name is Lackey and I need as much help as possible to break my association with slavery and servitude

1:22:08 Help me, Obi-Wan Dvorak, you're my only hope! Oops, sorry, that was a little premature. It's your birthday, birthday, on NO AGENDA! Alright, Ryan Lackey, happy birthday, it being your 29th birthday today, thank you for supporting the NO AGENDA show, and here's to hoping you shall no longer be associated with a slave who needs to shut up! It's your birthday, yeah! We have another birthday boy, too. Oh, well, let me go straight into it then It's Alan as staff as well as giving a happy birthday shout out to Brian Hill Whose birthday was two days ago in the s 15th? So happy birthday to you Brian and he also what does he say here? Oh

1:23:03 He says that Brian needs to be de-douched as he's most likely a jabroni for not contributing. You've been de-douched. He's never contributed, why are we de-douching him? He's a sysadmin, so it makes no sense either. this admin since the donation amount to the legislative government on the dime i'm not seeing the connection assist admins are the are natural amendment they need to tolerate i don't get it when she hits the fan exactly john martinez gilroy california fifty five fifty five

1:23:44 Freeholobooks.com. Freeholobooks.com. Cab City, West Virginia in a holler. And I'm gonna order me one of their new holobooks. Now Freeholobooks.com sent us, I got a nice Atlas Shrugged free holobook. I got a cookbook. Yeah, but now he makes beautiful free holobooks for your iPad which are really awesome. Yeah, we should mention what a free holo book is. Yeah, it's a well, it's a hollowed out book, but it's not free. Because you gotta buy them. Yeah, what is the name? Free hollow book? I don't know anything but it's it's actually it's cool I mean as a kid I don't know if you ever did that but you take a razor blade and you cut through pages and pages of a book and then you put like your condoms in there or something something important or your trinkets and So essentially he does this for you, but he does it with a treatment of the pages so that they're actually you know Like stiff and they kind of know it's actually a very outstanding product. It is it's it's a great looks just like a book and

1:24:46 And I'm definitely going to pick me up one of those iPad follow books. Why? Because you need a case for the iPad anyway. It's fun. It's a conversation starter. He said he's had a great response from our listeners, by the way, but he wants to call out Schrader and Schor as douchebags. Oops. Let me do that again. Oops, what happened? That was bad. That was not a good douche. Bad douches, I'm sorry. Geez. Then we have, well we had Alan Asaf who gave it the two nickels on the dime. He's from Bristol, Virginia. We got a lot of Virginia area folks. Veronica Roberts, Boise, Idaho, 5510, wants to call out Brian Brushwood for criticizing the show and thought you were great on Stern.

1:25:38 55, two nickels on the dime, CG Mayor, Mount Gambier, South Australia, 50-03 with no particular explanation. And what else? That's about it. Very light. So clearly we need We really need more support. We need a promotion. Yeah, I guess we do. We'd like to get more subscribers. You know, and the thing is, I want to point out to people that, by the way, you know, we're giving you one, two, three, four hours a week times four weeks, 16, probably 16 to 18 hours a week of material for your entertainment pleasure. And it is a show for people that drive long distances in their cars or who might want to listen to this at work, which we recommend.

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

PayPal Subscription Issues, Joy Behar Ratings

The hosts discuss technical difficulties with PayPal subscriptions and a 30% seasonal drop in listener support. They compare their independent reach to the television ratings of Joy Behar, noting that while she draws roughly half a million viewers, her audience is largely composed of people who are not "awake" to the issues discussed on No Agenda.

paypal· subscriptions· joy behar· cnn· television ratings

1:26:27 But we'd like to get the subscriber base up but the problem and one of the problems we keep having is that and I keep Soliciting people a couple guys has just said you guys suck and we don't want to subscribe anymore But most of them say oh, I didn't know that my subscription had been pulled by PayPal. I changed my credit card and This happens this happens daily And it's very, very annoying. And I want people just to check in once in a while with their PayPal accounts if there's actually being... or look at your bill, you know, and see what's happening. Uh, yeah. Well, the only way we're going to...

1:27:07 Did you get the note about the associate, the cook guy that's on Mevio that gave us a big... I make these recipes so that you don't have to. How many times have you gotten a recipe and made the recipe and the food was crap? I'm weeding all those out. You have no idea how many recipes I go through to bring you the best. So if you get any value out of this show at all, I ask you to go and donate to the No Agenda Show. You can listen to that show at noagendashow.com. And you can donate. Go and donate $5 in the name of Cooking with Blasman to noagendashow.com. Or you can go to

1:27:45 Devorak.org slash NA and donate $5 in the name of cooking with Blasman. They watch the news so that you don't have to. I cook the meals so that you don't have to. It's value for value. Donate $5 over there if you get anything out of this show at all. Thanks. Yeah, that's the Blasman. Highly appreciate him taking time out of his cooking show on Mevio. to promote us. Now you want him to be a PR associate and which is fine. Yeah I think you did, you know that's more than most people do. I mean you know it's not like he didn't mention your name of course. Yeah. So I hope you're not too perturbed Adam. You know. He didn't mention yours either. Is that okay? Yeah you know when when you were on Leo's show and you did an in the morning you know you became PR associate what do I get? Crap. I get crap for not mentioning you. Anyway. Are you gonna just obsess on these things? Yeah.

1:28:45 Probably. So yeah, I do agree though we need more monthly subscribers as and now this was kind of predicted during the summer months everything goes down on the internet. About 30%. I don't think 30% is typical. I would say it's probably half that normally but we're definitely seeing the hurt. We're down 30% easy. We're feeling the hurt for sure. But he said the right thing. He got, he said the whole week we essentially got what we usually get in a day. Yeah, there you go. So that's not good. No. Well, maybe people don't care. That's always possible. Maybe they just don't care. Maybe they think, maybe they don't care about the oil or maybe, maybe we're talking about the wrong topics. Yeah, maybe we should be doing more Miley Cyrus. I don't know. It seems to be working for Joy Behar.

1:29:47 Well, you know, I don't know what her numbers look like. I doubt if she has any audience at all. So probably isn't working for her. No, I think she's got audience. She's probably got a couple million. She's up against good shows. I mean, she's not going to get much of an audience. No, she's got a couple million. No, she doesn't. If she has 40,000, it would be a miracle. Well, let's see. Ratings, Joy Behar. You're right. 400 and so half a million. She has that many? Yeah, 417,000. Detroit Bayharm show. No, wait a minute, that was December 2009. Let me just see. Double digit, good for her, double digit growth. Hold on. You'd be amazed, John. You know, so to answer your question. CNN fails to stop fallen ratings. Well, everyone's having a fall in ratings. I mean, come on. Now see if here's a...

1:30:52 She premiered at half a million. Yeah, well everyone's curious. What is it here? Ratings going up. 17%... Okay, I don't have any absolute numbers. Yeah, but I'll bet you it's somewhere around a million. No! Well, if it's a half a million, then... Well, if it's a half a million, that's more than we got. No, I think it's gotta be about half a million. People love that. They love shows like that. People don't give a crap about what we do.

1:31:28 Only the few people who were awake. Like, oh yeah, that's possible that we could be lied to. No, I mean if you really want the answer, no. You know who Joy Behar is taking numbers away from? According to the New York Times? No. Larry King on CNN. Yeah, that's another fine show. But see that just that doesn't... Yeah, but Larry's about to spike his ratings because he's got the big all-star tribute to the Gulf Coast coming up. It was about time for one of those. Well, that's depressing. So the Federal Aviation Administration is now really getting frustrated

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

FAA Drone Regulations, Domestic Surveillance

The FAA is moving toward issuing flying rights for domestic drones to be used by law enforcement and civilian agencies. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano cited safety concerns for the delay, but the hosts warn that small, invasive drones will soon be used for domestic surveillance, including the ability to fly through windows.

faa· janet napolitano· drones· homeland security· surveillance

1:32:13 Because it is time to start issuing flying rights for drones for civilian and law enforcement functions. I'm not quite sure how that works, civilian and law enforcement functions. As the federales are saying we need to have this. We need to have drones flying around America. And of course, they're unarmed at first and then pretty soon they'll load them up with guns. Totally. And missiles. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has told lawmakers safety concerns are behind the delays. Yeah, no kidding. So a Senate confirmation vote. Oh, that's something else here. So that they want to use the planes at the border initially.

1:33:02 And right they're gonna start with the Canadian border Yeah, exactly. No, seriously. I believe you I believe you but it's it'll happen They'll get them and these drones come in all sizes by the way. They'll be over Oakland in within two years They have drones that can fly into your window. Did you know that? Yeah little ones Yeah, and but and they could but like a slit in the window they can like flip sideways and well, yes I have video of that. It's amazing. It's amazing amazing I tell you. Yeah but that, I don't know. Okay I'm just saying. From a long distance, you know, remote control, I don't see how they can, it's possible, just the latency issues, the thing would crash through the window. Dude we got moon bases, what are you talking about? Keep your windows closed ladies and gentlemen, keep them closed. If not for the foxes, then for the drones.

1:33:51 So something is like to get one in the house. I'd smash it with a baseball bat and then I'd see what I was made out of. Take the camera if it didn't zap your first. Imagine a drone flying in somebody's house and flying around. You know, there'd probably be like those in STOL type so it could like, you know, hover inside the house looking around for stuff. Yeah, yeah. That's about as creepy as anything we can come up with. So anyway, they're looking to pass that legislation. We really need to get that done. We need to have these drones. I mean, we need to have security for all of the terrorists running around. Terrorists, I tell ya. The most emailed story this week, without a doubt,

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Afghanistan Mineral Discovery, Robert Gates Strategy

The New York Times reports on the "discovery" of nearly $1 trillion in untapped mineral deposits, including lithium, in Afghanistan. Defense Secretary Robert Gates testifies before Senator Patrick Leahy, defending the current military strategy and the progress of Afghan security forces while the hosts suggest the mineral story is a plant to justify continued occupation.

afghanistan· lithium· robert gates· patrick leahy· pentagon

1:34:36 The trillions of dollars of minerals and lithium all of a sudden discovered in Afghanistan, which is just a big laugh. Wow. The New York Times, man. Is that the ministry of truth or what? Of course, this is like we've known about these minerals in Afghanistan. We even talk about on this show. about gold and gems and the lithium we didn't talk about. No, the lithium is just I don't know what they brought that up just because it gets more attention. Well no no no no no I think the wording is very important actually I got a little deconstruction of it here. It was not just lithium they call it the Saudi Arabia of lithium. Yeah the Saudi Arabia. That's beautiful. So here's from the article so first of all

1:35:30 This article saying, well, there was no idea, no idea far beyond any previously known reserves enough to fundamentally alter the Afghan economy. Now this could be used one of two ways, of course. Either it can be used to stay in Afghanistan, but I believe, John, as we were discussing on Sunday, that this could be used to get out of Afghanistan. Oh, these guys got plenty of money. Well, by the way, I've got two clips that indicate that one part of the government wants to stay and one part of the government wants to leave. Because it's obvious that the executive branch and the Congress is decided to leave, but for some reason there is a... I came up with a comment from your friend Gates

1:36:17 Could you please stop referring to assholes as my friend? Please do not call Thom Hartman or Robert Gates my friend. Robert Gates. He's not your friend? What do you have against the poor man? But you should listen to these clips before we go on about this thing just to get a little perspective. There's two of them. I have Gates on Afghanistan 2, which I guess is the second one. I need the Leahy asks question and it's obvious that Leahy again... Who is Leahy? Leahy. Yeah, who is Leahy? Leahy is the senator from Vermont. Okay. He's Patrick Leahy, he's the douchebag from Vermont. He has the agenda, which is to get out, and he's asking Gates about it.

1:37:09 uh... about why we know why we just get out the centuries i would he says but that's what he's implying and i think we've been had eclipse before they can indicate that they're trying to speed up the process and if you listen to gates explain the situation it sounds like something accelerated is going on lady first yelling i mean how do you say how do you see it was uh... was a in game well first of all uh... i think that one of the results of uh... very detailed analytical effort and policy consideration effort of the administration last fall was in fact to clarify our goals. And our goal is to ensure that Afghanistan is not a place from which attacks can be launched on the United States again.

1:37:59 and and in a nutshell the strategy is to uh... reverse the momentum of the taliban to deny them control of uh... populated areas uh... to degrade their capabilities to the point where the afghan security forces uh... can take care of them and and uh... the afghans are ahead of uh... pace in terms of building both the police and uh... and the army they uh... We still are dealing with quality issues, but we are making headway. We are making progress on trainers. The percentage of trainers to trainees has gone from about 1 to 80 to about 1 to 30. And a lot of Afghans, you know, I read a lot in the press about corruption and so on and so forth, but the reality is there are ministers in Kabul doing their jobs

1:38:51 And there are Afghan soldiers and police out there who are dying in even greater numbers than we are fighting for their country. I've met a number of those ministers and I have a great deal of confidence in them, but do you have confidence in the top leadership of the country? Yes, I do. I think that everything that I hear from my own, well, first of all from my own conversations with President Karzai, I think that he is embracing his responsibility for this conflict in his country. His visit to Kandahar just a few days ago that the Admiral referred to was very important in terms of helping set the stage for the continuation of the campaign there. So I think that we have some clear, we have clear goals. I think frankly that the narrative over the last week or so, possibly because of the higher casualties,

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Leahy Law, Defense Spending Sustainability

Secretary Robert Gates discusses the implementation of the Leahy Law, which prohibits U.S. military aid to foreign units that commit human rights violations. Gates also claims that current defense spending, at roughly 4.5% of GDP, is historically low and sustainable for long-term conflict, contradicting earlier promises of a swift withdrawal from the region.

leahy law· robert gates· gdp· defense budget· afghanistan

1:39:44 and other factors has been too negative. I think that we are regaining the initiative. I think that we are making headway. But the thing that I would say, two other points I'd make, Senator. One is people need to remember we have only been at this new strategy for about four and a half months. We don't even have all the surge troops in Afghanistan. Could I ask you on this before my time runs out? Is the Leahy law being implemented in both Afghanistan and Pakistan? We are working to ensure that the Leahy law is being implemented in both places. And we could discuss it further with you in a closed session. What is the Leahy law? The Leahy law, you know, I don't know why you even brought it up. In fact, I thought I clipped that off the end because it's a distraction.

1:40:41 The Leahy Law is a law that ensures no human rights violations take place in Afghanistan and in Pakistan, so we don't go in and gun people down for no good reason and don't care. I don't know what the point of him bringing it up was. And then we have Gates. Now, what is he saying? Well, now what you heard there was, you know, obviously we're trying to get out. These guys are going as fast as they can. They've kind of reset. I love the fact that we've only been there longer than any other war we've ever been in, but it's only been for four months, really. Yeah, we've reset everything. It's a new strategy. Yeah, new strategy. So we've only been doing this for four months. So, okay, we haven't been in there for what? Ten years? A decade. We've been in there four months, essentially.

1:41:27 And you know, also if you listen to the beginning of Gates' little diatribe, the guy is a bureaucrat. Is he CIA? Because he looks so much like a CIA guy. You think? You think? They all have that same pallor. You know, all the guys that were probably there in Langley, they have a... there's a pallor. and a hair colors which is does you know kind of looks like it's even I don't know how you get your hair that white but it looks he just looks CIA so so here we go with Gates just just so you're not absolutely so we're not gonna leave tomorrow Gates served for 26 years in the Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Council under George HW Bush as director of Central Intelligence does that answer your question?

1:42:17 I guess he must still be working for him. So just to make it clear that maybe the agency Has some ulterior motives isn't keen on leaving right away because well, you know we have maybe it's their funding This is all the ducks in a row. This is where this is where they get their money from it's like we do this is there we can't leave these poppies That's how we finance taking out governments around the world. Are you nuts? Shut up lay he slave shut up so and I would just makes this comment in here that I found very interesting because it was like what are you kidding me and

1:42:55 And I would just add one more point to the earlier point you made. There is no doubt that these wars have cost the United States, the American taxpayers, a lot of money. As the chairman said at the outset, close to a trillion dollars. That said, in terms of our international... Oh! That said, we've been talking about this on email, about that transition. That said, in other words, Fuck it. Let me talk about something else right now. That said... In terms of our international competitiveness, in terms of our overall economy, it is worth keeping the perspective that at about 4 to 4.5% of GDP, we are spending less on defense than during any other... Hey, that's weird. Hold on. Hey. Did it crap out? Yeah, that's really weird. Let me try that again. Or did you crap out? No. No, no, no.

1:43:49 That was weird. I can barely hear you. Hello? Hello? Yeah, you're back. No, but all of a sudden that clip just stopped at the last seven seconds. Hold on. It just stopped? No, I didn't. Let's try it again. ...of GDP. We are spending less on defense than during any other wartime in our history. And it is a level that certainly is sustainable. What? We're spending less and it's certainly sustainable. Yeah, that means we can stay there for 50 years. Oh, that's mint. That's just beautiful. There's a jaw dropper. Okay. One thing if you remember, there's still clips out there of the guy who when they first went into Iraq, the whole thing was like, well, it's going to cost us a couple billion, we'll be out in six months.

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

General Petraeus, Afghan Mining Potential

General David Petraeus comments on the "stunning potential" of Afghanistan's mineral wealth. The hosts mock the idea that the Pentagon and geologists just discovered these resources, noting that Soviet records from the 1980s already detailed the country's vast gem and metal reserves.

david petraeus· afghanistan· mining· minerals· new york times

1:44:43 And now we've been in these countries forever and now it's running, so far it's run a trillion in the hole, a trillion dollars that could be used to fill the potholes on Highway 80 that's down the hill from where I live so when I drive into the city I am dodging potholes on an interstate freeway. There's a lot we could do with the money. I go across the San Francisco Bay Bridge, there's potholes everywhere. So let's get back into what this was about, about this Ministry of Truth article in the New York Times

1:45:22 Where now all of a sudden there's these vast mineral riches in Afghanistan which we just kind of discovered which is total lie and then we have there's a new mining expert General Petraeus. He's an expert now John. Oh by the way, you know, yeah Yeah, we'll get to that in a second. I know the reason why. Yeah, I know why too. Let me finish my thought. You don't know why. Yes, I do. So I'm gonna finish your thought I'll tell you why later no, please you're half the show and John C. Dvorak everybody and you're a big baby, so It's because he leaned forward his medals are too heavy. Yes. I know I know your jokes I don't need you on this show. I can just do your voice and and we'll be fine

1:46:11 So there's stunning potential here, Petraeus, commander of the United States Central Command said in an interview on Saturday. There's a lot of ifs of course, but I think potentially it's hugely significant. Petraeus now knows a lot about minerals. Instead of bringing peace, the newfound mineral wealth, according to this article, could lead the Taliban to battle even more fiercely to regain control of the country. apparently the vast scale of Afghanistan's mineral wealth was discovered by a small team an elite team of Pentagon officials and American geologists. I mean this whole article reeks of bullcrap. Yeah, no it's total bullcrap but they did mention the fact that the Russians had already discovered these minerals in the 80s. So

1:47:05 I mean first of all I don't think there's any... I mean the administration wants to get out but I think that the CIA and particularly Gates, I mean there's a reason why Gates is still there. You know it's like, you know, there's like here's the meeting. Hey Obama listen, Gates is in otherwise we blow your cover. Very, very sotero. So they've got the goods on him. It won't go away. and I think that it's a big bonanza. And to the economic... Listen, if they don't get out of this Afghanistan before the election, these guys are going to take a bath. Yeah, so we'll just bring in the next puppet. Doesn't make any difference. Yeah, well I know, but he likes to be the puppet. It's a difference to him. Yeah, well, it doesn't matter. Just read the prompter and shut up. June 14th, according to Reuters, Iran is sending aid ships to blockaded Gaza.

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Iran Aid Ships, Tim Geithner Sanctions

Iran announces plans to send aid ships to the blockaded Gaza Strip, escalating tensions in the region. In response, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner announces sweeping new sanctions targeting over 90 Iranian ships and 22 petroleum and insurance companies to cripple the nation's maritime and energy sectors.

iran· gaza flotilla· tim geithner· sanctions· maritime trade

1:48:04 Did you hear about this one? I'm sorry? Iran is sending aid ships, i.e. a new flotilla to the blockaded Gaza. Iran has ships? Iran has tons of ships, yeah. Oh yeah. And they say that they're shipping off food and stuff like that that these people would need. But that has disaster written all over it, of course. And I don't think it was any coincidence that... And this was so weird where Timmy Geithner, I know I mentioned earlier, Timmy Geithner just came out and had this whole thing. Did you know that the... Tim Geithner is the Secretary of the Treasury. But he did a little intro and then immediately he has... What is the exact title of this guy? My God, these Iranian ships look like crap.

1:49:07 Undersecretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence. So they did, did you see that speech yesterday? No. Yeah, this was like it slipped right in. And Timmy Geithner's like, okay, we're outlawing the banks, we're outlawing the oil and gas companies. Every single ship in Iran's national maritime carrier, more than 90 ship names, these are all terrorists. So this ship is on its way, and of course it's filled with terrorists. 22 petroleum energy insurance companies, all these are all new sanctions by the way that were announced. So it's heating up and I think just to kind of bring it all around to the oil cabal, they have to stop that new pipeline. So they've either got to, there could be something in Turkey that could happen, something in Austria, because a lot of this gas is coming through Austria, or of course Iran. And I think although I've always kind of like

1:50:11 Doubted that it would happen this Iran thing just might heat up into something real. Mmm, maybe and that would that would be the true reason, you know Oh, no, we have to move from Afghanistan to Iran That would be that would be a possibility but it is heating up and this was no small matter that was announced yesterday No small matter at all 22 Petroleum energy insurance companies all you know not allowed to do business with them anymore not allowed to of course doesn't mean that people won't the people in Zug and in Zug, Switzerland. But by that weird woman, Laura Flanders, who always sounded like Lyndon LaRouche. Who is she? She's the one who does GRIT TV. You've seen her. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure, sure. Played her clip. It's very strange. I don't know which. It must be labeled something else. I think it's under two. Yeah, but... Weird Utah. Who are you? Utah. Sorry.

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Chevron Utah Pipeline Leak, Drone Protection

A Chevron pipeline in Utah leaked 33,000 gallons of oil into a creek near Salt Lake City. The hosts speculate that the "quarter-sized hole" in the pipe may have been caused by gunfire from vandals, providing a potential justification for the government's push to use drones for domestic pipeline and infrastructure protection.

chevron· salt lake city· pipeline leak· drones· infrastructure

1:51:29 Here we go, Utah. hole was punctured into a massive Chevron oil pipeline that carries oil to its Salt Lake City refinery and that hole has leaked 33,000 gallons so far of oil directly into this creek which you saw which ultimately feeds into major river areas, major water areas and Chevron is

1:52:14 essentially throwing up its hands to some degree saying we don't know why it happened, we think we can clean it up, we hope we can clean it up, but this is just another example of another oil spill. Actually two weeks before the BEP disaster Chevron had another oil pipeline that was ruptured in the Gulf of Mexico and that leaked 18,000 gallons of oil into a national wildlife preserve. We're all hearing about the failures of the federal response on the Gulf. What do we know about the response in Utah so far? The response in Utah so far is that we've got a lot of oil and there's not a lot you can do about it. Oil is, of course, toxic. You can't really get it out of water. You can try. You can get some of it. This is seeping directly into groundwater. Chevron is definitely on top of it, probably more than they would have if the rest of these events weren't happening at the same time. But at the end of the day, what I think the whole country is learning is when oil goes into water, there isn't a lot that can be done.

1:53:12 Alright, so there's an interesting point, couple points in here. One of course is assumed that Chevron wouldn't do as much if it wasn't for the big Gulf spill, which I thought was, you know, how does she know? But the other thing is, how do you get a quarter-sized hole in a pipe, big thick pipe? Well, seems to me that someone with a 357 Magnum that was just goofing around in the middle of nowhere Yeah, that's possible. Just take a shot at this thing and a .357 Magnum which can go into through some very thick steel or a .44 Magnum, whatever rifle you want to your gun or rifle you want to use pops a hole and it would be about that size and then the thing starts leaking and then you're oh my god I didn't know that was gonna happen and then you take off and then now you got a big oil spill what and now you have to ask yourself

1:54:03 Especially in the United States where guys like to take their shotguns and drive around in the south and blow off, you know, stop signs and cans, Mexicans, Puerto Ricans. I think this is the real reason that they want to get those drones in place. Is to protect the pipelines. Yeah, because this is ridiculous. This guy shot, they won't even suggest this on the show because they can't talk about guns. But I can imagine some guy doing this. I mean you're out in the middle of nowhere, what the fuck is... Oh it's a pipeline and you got your big gun with you. You've been shooting at, you know, ducks. That's an excellent point. That is, you know, one of the biggest helicopter industries is pipeline protection.

1:54:42 And just about every single chopper pilot I know has at one point in his career, commercial pilot, has at one point in his life done pipeline protection. You ever see a helicopter like probably at about 700 feet going really slow and then it'll go in one line and then it'll turn and those they're literally inspecting the pipelines from the air. It's very sophisticated. They have you know geo mapping and all kinds of radar stuff. I suspect that these holes are more common, that's what you need, that people should check up and down. Yeah, and then zap them fuckers. Hey, hey, get off of that pipeline. Get yourself away from the pipeline immediately. Okay, so now here's the story that nobody's covering, and I think it's the most interesting story, including the gulf thing. This is an obscure kind of a blog called the newspaper.com.

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Macquarie Bank, Texas Newspaper Acquisitions

Australian investment firm Macquarie Bank purchased 40 local newspapers in Texas and Oklahoma for $80 million. The move is seen as an attempt to silence local opposition to the Trans-Texas Corridor and foreign-owned toll roads, which involve controversial eminent domain seizures of private farmland.

macquarie bank· trans-texas corridor· eminent domain· toll roads· media ownership

1:55:42 Toll Road giant buys newspapers to silence critics. Australian toll road, McGuire, agreed Wednesday, or McQuarrie, agreed Wednesday to purchase 40 local newspapers primarily in Texas and Oklahoma for $80 million. The McQuarrie Bank is Australia's largest capital raising firm and has invested billions in purchasing the roads in US, Canada, and the UK. Most recently, the company joined with Sintra consensuals of Spain in a controversial 75-year lease of the 157-mile Indiana toll road. Now they're apparently involved in the Trans-Texas Corridor.

1:56:25 which will cost between $145 and $183 billion to construct a road expected to use up 1,200 feet wide. You know what we're talking about, that road that's going to go up to Canada from Mexico. Yeah, it's the Transamerica Corridor, whatever they're calling it. Yeah, the newspapers are the main communication tool for many rural Texan communities with many citizens at risk of losing their homes and farms through imminent domain. Many of the small papers purchased most have a circulation of 5,000 or less. They paid a lot of money. have been critical of the trans-texas corridor. An article in the Bonham Journal for example states the toll roads will be under control of foreign investors which more than frustrates Texans. So this is, I'm surprised that this hasn't happened before. You buy up the newspapers. What do you mean it hasn't happened before? Who owns the New York Times? A Mexican billionaire? What are you talking about? Who owns the Wall Street Journal? Rupert Murdoch? Or are you being facetious?

1:57:23 So what? Being stupid. Yeah. So I was being blonde. So they buy up all these idiotic, or these little papers that are bitching and moaning. And now they're, you know, it's just like, and they've dropped 80 million on these, on these little guys. It's like, yay, payday! Here, take the paper. You'd think the media would be on this. This is ridiculous that this is happening. What do you want me to write, sir? What shall I say today? Oh, that's, that's, that's perfect. That's perfect. Nobody's covering this. No, of course not. And if you want it covered, then I would strongly support you supporting us. I was watching PBS, one of our national treasures, and they had, which I thought was gonna be a really good show, that like a 60s, what was the Ed Sullivan show? Yeah. And I was like, oh man, this is good. You know, they had all the classic performances from the Ed Sullivan show, and they'd show like two clips, and then

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

PBS Ed Sullivan Special, Jon Stewart Research

A critique of a PBS special on the Ed Sullivan Show leads to a discussion about the high cost of public television DVD sets. The hosts contrast this with their own request for small monthly donations and reiterate their praise for the research staff at The Daily Show for their presidential energy speech montage.

pbs· ed sullivan· paul shaffer· jon stewart· television

1:58:21 Some guy who was who wasn't born when the Ed Sullivan show was on is hosting with Paul Schaeffer. Who is hawking his book and Jay Thomas who was paid to do the voiceovers for the for these two clips in a row. And then they and they start like you know telling old stories which are just lame and doofus. And I'm like, you know, but it went on forever. I'm like, oh, please. You can't fast forward that, unfortunately, like you can with us. It's like, please, please just go back to the Ed Sullivan show. I was like, wow, man, you know, and and and selling DVDs for one hundred and fifty bucks. Jesus Christ, please just give us five bucks a month. Dvorak dot org slash N.A. We need all the help we can get. We're going to finish the show, by the way, with this long clip.

1:59:08 which you will find on there, which I find, like I said earlier, to be the most interesting thing. in terms of a package that Stewart's ever put together because the amount of research that must have gone into this to get speeches from Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan and Nixon and all these presidents from back when that are all saying the exact thing almost word for word. It's just to me it was like, I don't know, the staff should have been called out on the show for doing such a great research job.

CHAPTER 33 / 38 Discussion

Neo-Prohibitionism, Smoking Cessation Tips

The hosts discuss "neo-prohibitionist" efforts to ban all drinking and driving. A health tip from New Scientist suggests that taking antacids like Tums can reduce the craving for a cigarette after consuming alcohol, as the craving is linked to stomach acidity.

neo-prohibitionism· drinking and driving· smoking· antacids· new scientist

1:59:47 Do we want to end it here? I don't know, I got nothing else. I got a couple things just to blaze through, just a couple of funny things if you want. Oh! Well, funny as in ha ha or funny as in that's peculiar. Please check out the show notes at noagendashow.com under the heading Demon Drink As you know, what John righteously calls the neo-prohibitionists are at it again all over Gitmo Nation. Calls now in Gitmo Nation East for banning all drink driving. And of course it's not a good idea to drive after you've had a drink anyway, but why not just ban driving?

2:00:27 Street alcoholics costing millions trying to quit smoking. Well, the devil is in the drink from New Scientist. Great article. If you stop drinking, that'll help you stop smoking. Yeah, well actually that's true. But let me give you an interesting tip because a new scientist actually ran this exact same story about 25 years ago, but they had a little kicker on it. Apparently if you go to a bar, a lot of smokers know this, they go to a bar, they have a few drinks, they feel like having a smoke. It turns out that if you take a Tums or any anti-acid pill, Rolax, Tums or Bicarb, that craving goes away.

2:01:10 The craving for the smoke? I didn't bring that little factoid up again. The craving for the smoke you mean? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah, there's a bunch of... Smoking like a true non-smoker. Just saying, I've always told people, hey, you know, you've got to, I had a drink, I gotta have a smoke. I said, take a, take a Tums. I'd rather have the smoke. Well, you would. Enough talking about someone trying to quit. Yeah, I'm not. I would, for the many people who wrote in and called me a douchebag regarding the The solar flares which are coming, yes I'm well aware that there's a cycle of approximately 11 years of solar activity and I'm aware of this since when I was 15 was the first cycle in my lifetime that I was aware of when actually ham radio conditions were outstanding. You get what's called skip.

CHAPTER 34 / 38 Discussion

NASA Solar Flare Warnings

NASA issues warnings about unprecedented levels of magnetic energy from solar flares as the sun enters a new 11-year cycle. The agency predicts potential catastrophic consequences for global health, emergency services, and national security, which the hosts view as alarmist rhetoric.

nasa· solar flares· magnetic energy· armageddon· solar cycle

2:02:02 and on like 12 watts I could on the 11 and illegally on the 10 meter band could talk all around the globe. I'm very aware of the cycle. However, when NASA comes out and says Beware unprecedented levels of magnetic energy from solar flares as the Sun wakens from its deep slumber are on the way it could hit like a bolt of lightning Catastrophic consequences for the world's health emergency services and national security I think that's a little more than just a little bit of solar activity that is in a cycle and and NASA is predicting Armageddon essentially

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

Toyota Prius, Lane Keep Assist Technology

A 2010 Toyota Prius advertisement highlights "Lane Keep Assist" technology, which uses cameras to detect road lines and applies torque to the steering wheel to prevent drifting. The hosts express concern that this technology is a step toward remote government control of private vehicles.

toyota prius· lane keep assist· lka· automotive technology· remote control

2:02:39 Yeah, well, that's NASA. Yeah, that's why I mentioned it if you're playing lightweight stuff Let me play the Prius ad that I didn't I've never seen a Prius ad in my life And I saw this one and had to record it because it's got a piece of information in here that that I went what? It can do that It gets better gas mileage than any other car in America It uses solar power to cool the interior. If you drift, it automatically brings you back into your lane. And right now Prius comes with two amazing offers. Get special 0% APR financing or a low Prius lease. Just $199 a month with only $19.99 due at sign-in. It's amazing. It's amazing! Hey, I didn't know that. Is that a new feature? If you drift, it automatically brings you back into your lane?

2:03:31 It doesn't sound like much of a feature. I think I'll change lanes. No you won't! Let me get over here, I'm gonna hit this car. No, you have to hit the car! If you have a Prius, let me know how that works. This may be a new feature, John. I never heard of this. No, I've never heard of it. Prius Lane Drift. Let's just look at that for a second. I've never heard of it. Oh, it's the Lane Keep Assist? Here it is. Uh-huh. It's the 2010 Toyota Prius, John. Wow. And that can't be the Prius, is it? Is that the new Prius? It looks like the old Prius. I'm looking at... there we go. Lane Keep Assist. It's got a heads-up display so you can watch the dashboard and... Look at the dashboard. No wonder you're gonna drift into the lane. A camera that literally looks for lines painted on the road. And then what does it do? Oh, and then I guess it alerts you if you start to drift.

2:04:31 Well, they think of everything those Japanese don't they? Well, it alerts you or the way it sounds in the commercials that it actually adjusts you. If the LDW system thinks the driver is about to drift into another lane it sounds a warning and nudges the steering wheel a little bit. Oh, okay. The LKA goes a step further helping the driver stay in the lane with additional torque on the wheel. I don't like that idea. I don't like it at all. Although if you're driving, you know, talking about these drunk drivers, it might be useful. What's funny is we need to paint some extra lines on the road. That would be yeah How much extra torque is it and for people who can't even keep their accelerators working freely and functionally now now they're taking control of my steering wheel I don't know if the computer is taking control of the steering wheel so you could probably this to me seems to me to be part of a system where you could not only take control of the Accelerator and the braking system, but you could steer the car remotely. Yeah exactly

2:05:34 Why even drive? This guy hasn't made his payment. I've got him here on the camera, let's just pull him over. Oh perfect. Wow. When I get rid of somebody, oh that guy drives a Prius, well we can kill him. Ready? Here comes an oncoming truck. So just one last story and then we'll end the show and get to the Jon Stewart clip. So one of the anomalies of what I believe is more likely caused by harp than anything is these holes that we've been seeing in China. You know, these weird rings in the cloud layer and they've been showing up often just before some catastrophic event. And of course I think these things are fake. Well... Have you seen one? No.

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Hole-Punch Clouds, Chemtrail Debate

A disagreement arises over "hole-punch clouds," which scientists attribute to jet aircraft seeding mid-level clouds. One host argues this is evidence of "chemtrails" and weather modification, while the other maintains it is a natural atmospheric phenomenon, leading to a debate over the feasibility of large-scale chemical spraying.

hole-punch clouds· chemtrails· weather modification· nasa· contrails

2:06:33 And that's kind of funny because big story being pushed in multiple media that this is caused by airplanes. Jet airplanes are punching holes in the cloud. So I guess that, and this is happening in Australia, they've had a lot of these and it shows up on radar and it's like really weird, perfectly circular holes in the cloud layer. And so the story doesn't really add up to me. First of all, the reason why... So I said, no, I haven't seen them and I've been flying in lots of jet aircraft, small and large. They say that when jet aircraft climb or descend under certain atmospheric conditions, they can inadvertently seed mid-level clouds and cause narrow bands or snow or rain to develop, but they can also punch holes or channels in the clouds, which have long fascinated the public.

2:07:29 I'm thinking disinformation, standby. Particularly when you get to the part that as far back as the 1940s scientists have wondered about the causes of these clouds. What? Oh really? And how many jet aircraft did we have flying in the 1940s? Well, there was a German jet fighter in 1945. Yeah, exactly. As far back as the 1940s, scientists have wondered about the cause of this cause. This reminds me of a thing I just saw on a crawler the other day. The CIA, it says the CIA has just released some documents from the 1940s, again the 40s mentioned,

2:08:08 And it was about the Korean War. In advance of the Korean War we had some... we knew something was going on but we didn't interpret it right. I've seen the CIA released some of its documents from the 1940s. When was the CIA in business in the 1940s? Yeah, didn't they start in like 1952 or something like that? 1953, 1952, something like that. Allen Dulles. Yeah, where did the word of the CIA get the what is the CIA doing with the with its documents from the 1940s and why is it the 1940s again this interesting coincidence that the 40s are being brought up hmm code Yeah, could be code. Well, it might have been the the precursor OSS I think was yeah, it could be but why would they do they could have said it that way? It was it was CIA documents supposedly really it's just been misreported. That's obviously

2:09:02 happens. So anyway, so this is kind of the reverse of the chemtrails are actually contrails. You know I have a strong belief in chemtrails. Yeah, I know. Why do you think that's so nuts? Because it's ridiculous. You think it's, of all the things I say, you think the most ridiculous and the one you seem to be so adamantly opposed to is that there could be spraying of chemicals in the air. Yeah. Why do you think that's crazy? Even though they're putting it in the upper atmosphere and what goods are going to do? It's not the upper atmosphere, John. It's at 5 to 10,000 feet. It's not upper atmosphere. These things are low. Yeah, I'm just telling you. There's no evidence.

2:09:44 Okay, all the only evidence is with people that are worse crackpots than you know on websites. Well, no It's the government has actually said they've done this they've done it for weather modification. Yeah, but that's different That's not from a regular jet passenger plane. Yeah, it is. No, not a jet passenger plan. I'm not saying jet passenger planes do it Okay. Anyway, they do see clouds of the used to I think they stopped doing that in the 60s Well spend some time looking at the sky I look at the sky all the time. And yeah, well just so you know, holes in the clouds caused by airplanes John. The holes in the cloud thing is dubious but at the same time I haven't seen one of these effects and you haven't seen one and I don't know one of our listeners who's seen one.

2:10:28 Yeah, no, lots of Gitmo Nation Down Under producers have sent me... Yeah, they've sent you pictures that they got from someone else. Okay, well if the pictures are fake, then why would scientists come out and say, oh, well these are caused by jet airplanes? I mean, that makes no sense. I think it's because they keep seeing these pictures, they assume that they're real, like you do, and they've had to come up with some explanation because people keep pestering them. Have any of these scientists seen this formation? I don't know. Yes, scientists as far back as the late 40s have wondered about the causes of these clouds. It's just a bogus story from the get-go. Acoustic shockwaves produced by jets. There you go. And I do have a photo of one of the F-15 or something making one of these acoustic shockwaves.

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Host Reconciliation, Show Wrap-Up

The hosts reconcile after their earlier argument regarding the Howard Stern interview. One host apologizes for the oversight in not mentioning their company, Mevio, and explains the pressure of the live interview format. They prepare to play the full Jon Stewart montage for their radio affiliates.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· mevio· howard stern· apology

2:11:17 And it's a real cool looking thing. It's this big circle around the plane. Yeah, it's not like a hole in the cloud layer. You've seen that. And I don't know how long it even lasts because all you just kind of a spectacular sometimes I really have to wonder about your motives I really do of all the things from earthquake machines to everything else to moon bases You are you you get you get almost angry when I talk about chemtrails you almost get angry about it like like I'm a I mean It's not it's the most feasible of all of my theories. I and they're not of his and it had well yes feasible it's the most feasible but you have not you do assume it's going on in your door were dead being dusted with lithium or whatever it is to to to placate the uh... the angry public it just doesn't doesn't wash i mean the public's not placated they're just dumb and that's the educational system is getting in the news spraying them and you you don't think for a second that uh... that there are reasons why

2:12:18 It could be done and why it should be and why it's being done. I mean you just you can't fathom that for a second. You can't get the parts per million up high enough. There's too much Gaussian dispersion. There's no way scientifically you could dope people up and it's just not possible. That shit doesn't come floating down to the ground? No, it gets dispersed. It's all over the place and probably never gets to the ground at least where you'd want it to. Right, so if you do a lot of it then eventually it does get to the ground, doesn't it? No. Wow, that's heavy man. If a crop duster flew over at 500 feet and dumped a bunch of shit on me, yeah, you got me. Wow, alright. Well I'm a believer in it and I will send you some documentation when the government admits they're doing it. And I've sent you that before and what you do is you don't read it. I read everything you send me.

2:13:19 Anyway, John I apologize that I uh... No, no, I don't want to hear anymore about it. I just mentioned it for God's sake. Can we uh... No, I want to... No, no, I need to clear my conscience. I apologize. I thought I was doing a good thing for the show. Yeah, I think you did overall. Can I just finish? Can I just finish please? Is it okay? I thought I was doing a good thing overall for the show. What I've learned from listening to Howard Stern for a long time is if he asks you, then you launch into something, but you let him lead the conversation at all times. And if he'd asked me about the show, of course I would have told him about the show. You're right, not mentioning Mevio was an oversight. That's just 4 o'clock in the morning. I did say in the morning a couple times before the plug.

2:14:15 the show in the morning, I did say that. I did not mean to come across as it being my show, only my show. Unfortunately, in this case, sometimes it comes out that way. But it was not intentional and I'm sorry that it bothered you so much. I thought that... It didn't bother me that much, I just mentioned it. And I thought that you, well, if you had at any point during the show said, hey, you know, good promotion for the show, then it wouldn't have hurt so much. Alright, we'll leave it at that. I handled it poorly. Unlike the Jon Stewart clip that advised everyone to listen to. So we've gone well over time here and we're going to go a little bit long. It's like 8 minutes this clip. Is it right? We're going to announce to the affiliates? Yeah, we're going over time. So your local news will be 8 minutes late.

2:15:20 And please consider supporting the show because apparently I won't have a job pretty soon since I forgot to mention the name of my company. You shouldn't... I got nothing to do with it. You should just apologize to Butler. Really? Wow. No, it goes like this. Are we shutting down? Is that what he said? Yeah. Something I don't know. Because I didn't mention the name Mevio? Yes. Oh my god. Alright. Well, no wonder I'm not a PR associate.

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Jon Stewart Montage, Presidential Energy Promises

The episode concludes with a comprehensive audio montage from The Daily Show. The clip features every U.S. president since Richard Nixon making nearly identical promises to achieve energy independence and end the nation's reliance on foreign oil, highlighting decades of political failure and repetitive rhetoric.

jon stewart· richard nixon· jimmy carter· ronald reagan· energy independence

2:15:59 Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation, West Indy People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning with John C. Dvorak, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's garbage day and the trains are going by loaded with box goods, lots and lots of containers today, a little more than usual. I think the economy is picking up and there goes one now. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Sunday for early morning service right here on NO Agenda. Welcome back to the show. Obviously beyond addressing the cleanup of the oil in the Gulf, President Obama's speech had a larger goal. For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered. Now is the moment for this generation to embark on a national mission to unleash America's innovation and seize control of our own destiny. I believe we can fly.

2:17:00 Using non-petroleum based technology. Or giant magnets or hamsters running simultaneously. Some other type of energy source that we haven't quite... Now is the moment to dramatically improve our environment and move beyond a petroleum based economy. Unlike in 2006. This country can dramatically improve our environment, move beyond a petroleum-based economy, and make our dependence on Middle Eastern oil a thing of the past. Yes! But see, back then, in 2006, we didn't do it. Because oil dependence had at that point only entangled us in two simultaneous wars.

2:17:50 But now, it's gotten us into two wars and a giant spill. That's the push we needed. Although I don't know, two wars and a giant spill, it's an awful lot to overcome and also do the get off the oil thing. You know, I wish we'd taken care of this energy problem ten years ago when there was no war and the economy was great. That would have been a great time to develop a long-term energy strategy. We need a long-term energy strategy to maximize conservation and maximize the development of alternative sources of energy. And we would have done it too, if he hadn't gotten distracted by that other spill. Which, I should add, also took five and a half miles of boom in the Navy to clean up.

2:18:47 That's why they call him the big dog. If only the guy before Clinton had thought of this. There is no security for the United States in further dependence on foreign oil. Yes, and he would have done it too if it hadn't been for these showing up. That thing could really tow the boat I don't have up the mountain I don't live near I bet I bet wait I bet the four guys before him would have gotten us off foreign oil too if they had thought of it We will continue supportive research leading to development of new technologies and more independence from foreign oil. It's intolerable

2:19:44 dependence on foreign oil. New standby emergency programs to achieve the independence we want. We will break the back of the energy crisis. We will lay the foundation for our future capacity to meet America's energy needs from America's own resources. Fool me once,

2:20:21 Shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me eight times, am I a f***ing idiot? I must be an idiot. So counting Barack Obama, the last eight presidents have gone on television and promised to move us towards an energy independent future. Before that I'm sure they probably did it on radio. Well why, why didn't it work? Why couldn't we do it? It's not like they didn't have good ideas. Wind turbines. Nuclear energy. Solar bank. Energy efficient windows. Energy efficient homes. Natural gas, hydro. American coal. Solar power. Ethanol, not just from corn. Atomic power. Wood chips and stalks or switchgrass. Fuel cells. Natural gas. Zero emission coal-fired plants. Solar panels. Better batteries for hybrid and electric cars. Methanol. Ethanol. Plant products for gasohol.

2:21:27 Let's just use oil. You know what? We have to. I will not allow the dinosaurs to have died in vain. So we had good ideas and we're good people. We have the world's highest level of technology. We have the know-how. We have the ability. Our unyielding faith. Worthy of a great nation. We have the most skilled workforce. Our resilience. America is a rising nation. We are an unstoppable oil dependency breaking machine! Unfortunately, the machine runs on oil. But, this whole thing is maddening. Maybe we just need a deadline, hard and fast, like we did with the moon. In ten years, we will go to the moon. And in ten more years, be somewhat bored by doing so. We just need the president to lay out reasonable time parameters. At the end of this decade, in the year 1980,

2:22:27 The United States will not be dependent on any other country for the energy we need by 1985. By the year 2000. Within a matter of three or four years if we'll just get after it and treat this like it's important. Another great goal, to replace more than 75% of our oil imports from the Middle East by 2025. So Nixon says let's get off foreign oil by 1980. which somehow becomes, let's not use as much foreign oil by 2025. We've redefined success and still failed. Which brings us to perhaps the strangest aspect of this sad, some would say Groundhog Day-ish saga.

2:23:12 Of all these eight men of incalculable power who tried and failed to get us off of oil, one stands head and shoulders above the others as far as actually doing something for the environment. Who? I'll give you a hint. What's got four fingers and resigned in disgrace? This guy. He created the Environmental Protection Agency. He signed the Clean Water Act of 1972. The Marine Mammal Protection Act. When the Cuyahoga River was on fire in 1969, he put it out with his own urine. But even Nixon, even Nixon couldn't get us off oil. And this was a guy who, by the way, was not afraid to bend the rules to get things done. Couldn't get it done.

2:24:02 Because you see, it turns out Nixon had one major flaw. No, not delusional paranoia coupled with living in an ethical netherworld. No! You know why Nixon couldn't get this done? We will establish a new system that makes high quality health care available to every American in a dignified manner and at a price he can afford. Because Richard Nixon was a communist.