Episode 195 · Thursday, 29 April 2010

Kidnapping The Truth

A staged medical miracle on reality television masks a broader landscape of high-speed rail propaganda, pharmaceutical marketing for invented disorders, and a kidnapping crisis in Phoenix.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 195

About this episode

Donald Trump and the producers of Celebrity Apprentice are accused of staging a medical recovery narrative for Bret Michaels to salvage plummeting television ratings. While the media focuses on Michaels’ brain hemorrhage and hyponatremia, evidence suggests the health crisis is being leveraged as a Cinderella story to compete with rival programs like Undercover Boss. Meanwhile, General David Petraeus faces scrutiny for his self-designed Generalissimo uniform, which violates standard Army Regulation 670-1 protocols despite his personal authority to bypass them.

UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s campaign falters after a hot microphone in Rochdale captured him labeling constituent Gillian Duffy a bigoted woman, a moment potentially orchestrated to shift power toward David Cameron. In France, Stefan Poggiacci reports on CNBC World that EADS labor strikes are crippling Airbus 330 production, while American activists counter with Boobquake and Everybody Draw Muhammad Day. Domestically, the US High Speed Rail Association has enlisted the PR firm Hill & Knowlton to deploy tobacco-style propaganda to secure sixty billion dollars for a San Francisco to Los Angeles rail line.

Sir Liam Duffield joins the No Agenda Round Table following a formal knighting ceremony for his executive producer contributions. The hosts deconstruct the pharmaceutical industry’s invention of Shift Work Disorder to market NuVigil and Adderall via the Wake Up Squad website. The episode concludes with a look at the Phoenix kidnapping crisis and the strategic energy alliance between Gazprom and Ukraine that secures Russian naval dominance in Sevastopol.


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CHAPTER 01 / 29 Discussion

Celebrity Apprentice, Bret Michaels Health Recovery Prediction

The hosts open the show with a prediction regarding Bret Michaels and his recovery from a brain hemorrhage. They suggest a "Cinderella story" comeback is being staged to boost the declining ratings of Donald Trump's Celebrity Apprentice, which has seen a significant drop in viewership compared to Undercover Boss and The Cleveland Show.

celebrity apprentice· bret michaels· donald trump· hyponatremia· ratings· reality television

00:01 Have you noticed a decrease in your enjoyment of life? Yo, absolutely. Especially since I started doing this show. Adam Curry. John C. Dvorak. It's April 29th, 2010. Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1-9-5. This is no agenda. Protecting the nation from Crypto-Caucus Ghani and coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center and Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And there's a fungus among us. I'm in Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John C. Dvorak.

00:42 Yeah, yeah, well until you until you coded at 32 bits or whatever It's 16 per channel 16 I wonder you know can we just do 64 bits kilobits and see if people care if I do 96 with the Horowitz thing it sounds great. Well of course, but how long is that show an hour? Mm-hmm well there you go, so we're two hours. That's why I do have make a sense no no No, makes no sense. Makes no sense. John, I just want to call it right now before we get to our executive producers for today's episode. I am predicting a Cinderella story, miraculous comeback, Brett Michaels will heal just in time for the final live episodes of Celebrity Apprentice.

CHAPTER 02 / 29 Discussion

Reality TV Staging, Cindy Lauper, Bret Michaels Medical Condition

A discussion ensues regarding the medical specifics of Bret Michaels' condition, specifically hyponatremia and his lifelong struggle with diabetes. The conversation shifts to Cindy Lauper's participation in the show, describing her as a highly intelligent but "kooky" artist, while reinforcing the theory that the health crisis is a calculated television bit.

bret michaels· cindy lauper· hyponatremia· celebrity apprentice· reality tv· diabetes

01:37 Hey, why don't you hit the real news button while you're at it? I gotta tell you I actually did some research and now So it wasn't until Donald Trump started appearing you're actually starting the show with this story. Yes, but because it's perfect I'm like Donald Trump went on it must have been the today show obviously You know, ah man, you know bread, but the show's okay, you know We've never had this in the history of the show and then I look I look at the ratings right the ratings drop first week drop 19% second week drop 25% as undercover boss beats hammers it what the Cleveland show beats celebrity apprentice I

02:22 And yeah, seriously and then there's a story about celebrity apprentice did ratings spike for Bret Michaels and Then and I'm reading his website and it's like well, you know, we can't talk about what's really wrong The media is just taking it and running with it. I'm like, okay the guy has a hyponatremia Whatever, what is that? Oh, I'm glad you asked the doctor. Hyponatremia is a condition in which the sodium levels of the body become abnormally low. Oh, that also gets the salt meme in. Of course, of course. It's so beautiful.

03:02 Sodium is an electrolyte in the body and helps regulate water levels. Let's add to the general population's knowledge about sodium. Yeah. I was just like, what? What? What? It just goes one after another. Yeah, you're right the whole things is I didn't even think about it all I just I because I didn't either care about the show I don't care about Brett Michaels. I haven't seen any episodes of the thing I think I tuned it in to see Blagojevich. Yeah, and then so I don't I didn't notice any of this stuff But I think anyone there are people that watch this show and maybe you should inform them that this is a scam Yeah, well, or did I use the word scam? Oh my goodness. Well, let me just say that I do care about Brett Michaels I know the guy he's He's actually very very nice

03:48 He's a sweetheart actually, and he's been a diabetic all his life, and that sucks. So all kinds of little stuff can really throw the guy for a loop. I do not watch Celebrity Apprentice. I watched the opening episode because besides him being on, Cindy Lauper's on, who I also know and also like very much, and who is, by the way, she's a kook. She may be a kook, but if you actually go back and analyze her material and some of the stuff she does, she's actually an extremely talented artist. And she's highly intelligent, but she's kooky. Yeah, she seems bright. Yeah, she's kooky and that's why I like her so much. So anyway, I predict Cinderella's story, Bret Michaels, to be healed just in time for the final live episode. Yeah, it's a good television bit. I would have done it. Of course!

CHAPTER 03 / 29 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, No Agenda Open Source Branding

Executive producers Liam Duffield and Bill Hertha are credited for underwriting the episode. The hosts discuss the open-source nature of the No Agenda brand, mentioning community-created projects like the No Agenda Book Club, floor mats, and stickers placed in airports like Burbank and Oakland.

liam duffield· bill hertha· no agenda· open source· branding· stickers· book club

04:36 Of course, the Donald- The ratings are dying, you know, you gotta do something. Yep, there you go. So John, who can we thank, if anyone, as our executive producer for this episode? We have two executive producers. Oh, we do have two, nice. We don't have any associates this week for some of them. And actually, we could have made one of them an associate because- but I've decided it's too big of a donation to- To make an associate. So we've got Liam Duffield who's in Queensland Australia down under again nice who's decided to to to he's been paying us on a Installment plan to become a knight, but now he's decided he said you just threw all in 833 bucks and 73 cents Wow So he's the one of the executive producers and the other one is Bill Hurtha. I

05:25 uh... in thornhill ontario can it where are the americans well i know i know i leave him soon because we did a bit uh... big thing about the uh... about the bogus vaccinations that is killing children and down under on the last show so i'm i'm sure he's happy were propagating some of the bogus activity taking place. For Bill, I've got a good story about Canada. Well before we do that he wants to mention he's donating so his brother Eric, this is actually a complicated story, my brother Eric who donated earlier this year doesn't report me as a douchebag.

06:06 Wait a minute. So do I play the jingle or not? I think uh... No! Oh, too late. Damn. That's the latency bill that had nothing to do with me. He says... Right anyway, okay, so anyway Eric apparently was you know he was fearful so he gave us $400 to stave off the Threat the douchebagness. There's a lot of douchebag action this week again. This is gonna wear off I know but I haven't been able to figure out how or when it's funny because I'm really sick of the jingle And, uh, but I get lots of people like, Hey man, that douchebag thing is great. And no people want it for you. Got it. We have to post it someplace. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Don't we have no agenda, no agenda jingles.com. Yeah, I think we do. I'll, I'll, I'll get it up there. So let's put, let's put a bunch of these good ringtones. I think douchebags a great ringtone. If you think about it. Yeah. You know, douche bag, you know, Oh,

07:04 Yes, I'll make it my custom ringtone for when you're calling me John. Oh, that must be John calling. So we have a couple other interesting sites which fall under PR associations. No official associate as of this week. We haven't had one in a while. We need one of those really big... Big slam promotions. Yeah, like an article or call into a national show radio television billboards are great aside of a bus side of a bus By the way, I you give me some stickers yesterday. And of course we have no agenda well, we don't have it but our producers have made no agenda stickers calm and I stuck them everywhere John

07:46 I didn't give you that many, but yeah. Well, you gave me six of them and I posted them in many airport locations. Oh, you put in the San Francisco or the LA airport? Burbank and Oakland. Oh, okay. Yeah. Great. So, I just wanted to... for some reason the link didn't make it into the links that rock portion of the show notes. The No Agenda Book Club, noagendabookclub.com. Also brand new, the No Agenda Floor Mat. It's rather a long URL so I've put that at the top of the... Yes, there's a format available and the proceeds go to the show. I'm gonna get one and put it in my Lexus.

08:30 I'll get one and I'll put it in my 99 Range Rover. Yeah, the Range Rover. Now, we also have something I haven't looked at it just came in today about the noagendatravel.com. Oh, no, I haven't seen that. Is that an existing site? It just came up. Don't know. It's from a guy in Melbourne, Australia and he's gonna do something with it. I think it's a site. And this is what What's kind of cool about the way we run the show open source is completely open source We're not you know, we don't claim any copyrights on anything. You can know agenda travel.com exists, but it's empty Okay, so that's forthcoming. There's a couple more as no agenda search. Calm is also in the making There's nothing there yet, which by the way, I think that's gonna be very cool the no agenda search that could be yeah Yeah, and then there's also a brand new product on the market

09:23 In the morning tea. Yes, yeah I saw that. That hits you in the mouth. I've been looking forward to trying it. Apparently it's been out for a while. I didn't know that until I started getting emails from people, hey I found this interesting tea called in the morning tea. It hits you in the mouth. So although not officially sanctioned since we haven't tried it yet. Right, and wait for a bag or two. Yeah. Where's my bag? And then some tea also. I need my bag. So anyway, we would like to thank our executive producers for this episode. Episode 195, Liam Duffield and Bill Hertha. Both of you are completely responsible and are underwriting this program. We highly appreciate it. You can put it into your email signature. You can make a patch, put it on your jacket or just put it on your resume. Put it in the back of a chair.

10:17 Those Hollywood director chairs. Yeah. No, that's uh, no, we appreciate it. It is a real credit. You can take that to the bank as they would say. And of course, we want you to go out and please propagate our formula, which is quite simple. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And not just that, but say it with me now. New World Order. All together. Shut up, slave. Right. So it's like, is he still there?

CHAPTER 04 / 29 Discussion

General David Petraeus, US Army Uniform Regulations

The hosts address listener feedback regarding their criticism of General David Petraeus's uniform. Citing Army Regulation 670-1, they argue that while standard officers are required to wear all earned badges, generals have the authority to design their own uniforms, leading to the conclusion that Petraeus chooses his "Generalissimo" aesthetic personally.

david petraeus· us army· ar 670-1· uniform regulations· generalissimo· military medals

11:02 so so i can't happen and i get the notion of trying to get the show ush i got a bunch of clips and you know mostly about the arizona situation which we get to any time you you you feel like you have some some stuff you want to get out of the way i did i definitely have some so i think it first i got the world and i think i don't know if we mentioned his name before i'm not going to mention it again but one of our army listeners uh... rights and and gives us crap for our uh... are consistent uh... Dislike of Petraeus and that stupid uniform he wears not that the army uniform is stupid I don't want to say that but he wears this thing covered with chrome like some sort of a Generalissimo, I'll say it and I'll say it again from South America It does it does look like that and of course the constant pressure we get back and of course we actually both are huge supporters of our service men and women but neither here nor there we get a lot of crap about you know, this is a

11:59 You know, this is the badges, this is the stuff the guy's been through that's important. It's really the only thing you have in the military is all of your medals and... But it just looks kooky! It looks stupid. Now, so here we go. Well, John and Adam, I've been away training and I just caught up on the show. I was listening to NOA Agenda 183 and heard you mention my comments regarding the wear and appearance of the US Army's Class A uniform. I just wanted to follow up with both of you a couple of issues. First, I know you appreciate the service of the military, blah, blah, blah. The only problem I have is you guys joking about General Petraeus' uniform is that you think he just wears it to appease himself. If you read AR-670-1, then you'll know that if awards, badges, tabs, ranks are listed in his officer record brief, ORB, or official military personnel file, OMB.

12:54 the PF then he's required to wear it on the uniform okay so I go and look up 671-1 newest version 2005 it says the same thing it's always said generals are exempt in fact generals and I asserted this before but I didn't have the exact documentation I do now can wear whatever they want they can design their own uniforms which is clearly what he's done So Petraeus is appeasing himself. He likes wearing that stuff all over him to make himself look like a generalissimo from South America. I do not want any more emails from people trying to mislead me. I'm seriously irked about this mail. Trying to mislead me by throwing all here's 670-1 read it, you know. I am not taking any more email from this guy.

13:49 Of course I was concerned that he was going to be a pet peeve of the day and in fact he is for being a douchebag. Oh no, I can't keep up with you. You know. It's just dumb, you know. So first of all, I'm in total agreement with you. But if he would just tone it down, I mean, if he can design his own uniform, think about how cool he could be. He could be kind of like, you know, downplay it a little bit. Wear some Armani or something, man. Even one-star generals apparently, according to 670-1, can design their own uniforms. They can wear whatever they want.

14:33 There you go. We're done. It's under the paragraph applicability by the way if you actually want to read these things. I'd say we're done with it. We're done with it damn it. There's only one thing I want to play before you get into Arizona uber alice. Which I'm glad you did because I'm so sick of this being on the news and I only have one little show note so I'm glad you have some stuff and we're going to deconstruct that for you. I have way too much stuff. No, that's good because people need to know what this is really about and where it's coming from. Gitmo Nation East elections in full swing. You've probably heard about this by now. Classic Gordon Brown out meeting constituents

CHAPTER 05 / 29 Discussion

Gordon Brown, Bigoted Woman Hot Mic Incident

UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown is caught on a hot microphone calling a constituent, Gillian Duffy, a "bigoted woman" after a campaign stop in Rochdale. The hosts analyze the audio and suggest the incident may be an orchestrated "Dean Scream" moment designed to facilitate a transition of power to David Cameron or Nick Clegg.

gordon brown· gillian duffy· uk election· nick clegg· david cameron· sky news· hot mic

15:16 And he's wearing a lav microphone and it's pretty amazing that people would let him fall into this trap. So you almost have to think it's done on purpose. In fact, I'm thinking this is the Howard Dean scream for Gordon Brown because they got to get the guy out of the way to let Cameron or the the new wonder boy Nick Clegg take over that portion of Gitmo Nation. So he's out meeting with constituents, this woman comes up and she's bitching at him. She's like, you know, hey, listen Gordon, you know, it's like the government used to be about health care, about education, and keeping people safe. And this is crap. That's basically what she's saying.

15:57 And she's going on and on and on and on and then you know and then she starts to walk away Gordon Brown sucks And this is basically a set up press thing on the street right have you seen this John have you seen the clip at all? Nope missed it. Oh good and And she starts walking away, and then he starts sucking up to her. It's like well tell me about your grandchildren, baby Then she's like yeah, whatever and then she walks off He gets into the car with his lav microphone on which is still on And he starts bitching it bitching out the whole situation like oh man who got that woman in there who? Well, I have a clip for you You have to kind of listen closely at the end because as the car is driving off the wireless mic starts to cut out a little bit I'll do some translation where necessary so first here is that Gordon wrapping up this Rather bad PR motion health and helping people. That's what I'm about. That's what I'm about. I

16:53 It's been very good to meet you. And you're wearing the right colour today. How many grandchildren do you have? Two. What names are they? They've just come back from Australia where they've been stuck. For now ten days, but they got back with this ash crisis. They got through now Yeah, yeah, they're all now we've been trying to get people back quickly, but are they gonna go to university? That's the plan? I hope so. They're only 12 and 10. Oh, they're only 12 and 10. They're doing well at school. Yeah, very good. A good family. Good family, good family. The education system in Rochdale will congratulate it. Good, good. And it's very nice to see you. Take care. Thanks Gordon.

17:34 So he's walking off to his car. Into the car. That was a disaster, he says. He's like, we should have never talked to that woman. Whose idea was that? Was it Susan? I don't know. Susan, you're fired, that's for sure. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. What a disaster. So, um, there's a number of- Nah, I'm not that impressed.

18:21 No, this is a big flap in the UK. Is it because oh yeah, oh, oh every oh, yeah He called her a bigoted woman. Oh, I didn't hear that. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard to tell it doesn't really work. It's woman The bigoted woman shows up he says so there's a there's a link in the show notes with the video with subtitles So you can because you know, he's also speaking that funny accent Yeah, you can hardly understand a word he says. But this is the big snafu and I'm telling you, I think this is orchestrated. They have to get the guy out of the way with one fell swoop because it's time to hand over the baton. You know, so it was... You know, you can mic people up like that and just leave the damn thing running. You'll get something. The interesting thing though, here's what I don't understand. So there's a million cameras, right? The BBC breaks the story

19:10 Yet it seems to be everyone has the same audio, but he's only wearing one lav microphone. So who had the audio? This was Sky News. It was a pool. It wasn't a pool. Somebody had to have the audio and pool it with the rest of them. So why would they... it's weird. It's weird, it's like one guy had the audio but there were at least 15 cameras there. It was an on location thing, it wasn't like a set up... They were pooling, I mean that's the only thing that explains it. You mean, in other words, sharing? Yeah. Which is common and in common in most modern societies. I mean if you remember people out there, now you still see evidence of it in Africa where the guy's up there speaking, there's a thousand microphones in front of him. You know we stopped doing that in the what, the 80s, the early 80s or late 70s when the pool became like, you know, since we got one good mic, you know, why don't we just share it? Oh okay. But the crazy thing is, is she's

20:10 You have to see the whole thing to really put it into context, but she's bitching at him about where are all these Eastern Europeans coming from? We've got a million people running into our country and then Borden Brown's like, well, we've got a million people leaving the country. So he's calling her bigoted, which is basically calling the whole country bigoted because that's the conversation they have. I lived in Gitmo Nation East. They don't want them. They don't want them at all. Just get them out. I'm telling you this is a Dean Scream moment. This is to discredit him, get him out quick. But he didn't have a chance anyway, did he? You know, I think they just want to... Cameron and that other guy... Yeah, Nick Clegg. It's going to be Cameron. Let me just tell you right now. It's going to be Cameron. Hey, I'm the one who said that. You're the one who suggested Clegg. No, not at all. I said Nick Clegg is now the sweetheart, but he's a CIA spook. Or not a... He's a spook, not a CIA. MI5, MI6.

21:10 I didn't suggest, I'm just saying that everyone... Oh no, Cameron's a winner. You know we have two Brits in the offices over at Mevio. Yeah, and they're like, oh he's the Susan Boyle of politics. Yeah. It's like, you douche... Clegg is a douchebag. Douchebag! They're all douchebags. Cameron's the worst. Cameron is bad, but he's obviously on the fast track. I mean you can see that from here. I don't know what they're thinking in England. Oh he was set up. He's always been the one that, he's always been the heir apparent. You know it doesn't matter. The whole thing is rigged. Yeah it's all the same people running the show and they've got the game show going on now with the debates. It's funny. It's just entertainment. It's entertainment people. See it as such. Talking about crappy accents. Let's play. Okay. Right on. Let's laugh about foreigners. Undercl... Yes well here's a beauty.

CHAPTER 06 / 29 Discussion

French Labor Strikes, CNBC World Correspondent Stefan Poggiacci

French correspondent Stefan Poggiacci reports on CNBC World regarding labor strikes at EADS (Airbus) factories and declining consumer sentiment in France. The discussion focuses on the 3.5% pay rise demands by unions and the impact of rotating strikes on the production of Airbus 330 and 380 models.

stefan poggiacci· cnbc world· eads· airbus· carrefour· labor strikes· france

22:00 Here's clip number one file, there's a how much can you take of Stefan and let me set this up on CNBC World which I like to watch because I think they have much better and faster paced analysis of what's going on in the stock market. uh... they have this show i think i'm pretty sure is produced in in by the british and they have this french correspondent who i i'm absolutely certain they only put on the air because he's such a you can't understand a word he says and his accent is so thick it's ridiculous. And where's he from? Where's Stefan from?

22:38 from Paris. I've seen him. Yeah. And he always stands kind of like in the busy district. Yeah. He's on the corner. They're actually quite good if you could figure out what he's saying. But he's reporting here on the EADS strike, which apparently took place. Of course, nobody reports on any French strikes in the United States. EADS makes Airbus. Airbus. Nobody reports on French strikes in the United States because that's all that would be reporter. And because they're so effective and we might think of that ourselves. So here we go with a clip called How much can you take of Stefan? So let's get to Stefan Poggiacci who has the latest from Paris. Stefan. Absolutely. And all the banks are trading lower. It's not yet the earning season for the French bank. They're reporting next week for the first of them BNP Paribas and Societe Generale. So for the time being, it's because

23:29 It's because it's a Société Générale and... It looks like we are a bit negative on the sector. We are negative also at the opening on Carrefour on the back of consumer sentiment which in France dropped to minus 37 in April and that was a bad surprise because the average forecast was a small increase compared to March and that of course is a bad signal for consumer related stock like Corfour. Corfour makes a large part of its business still on its French domestic market. Apart from this we've got EADS, second day of strike for the French factories of Airbus. Unions are asking for 3.5% pay rise and started yesterday a rotating strike. They started to impact yesterday the production of the Airbus 330 and 340. Today they will impact the production of the Airbus 320 and tomorrow some parts

24:21 of productions for the Airbus 380. Decision to go on strike follow a demonstration of 10,000 workers on Friday and unions already warned that should the management refuse to negotiate they would continue some social action next week. For the time being, EADS is down 0.7%. Well, you know, I have to kind of take the opposing side here, you damn yank. Just because you've never heard of Carrefour and don't know what Societe Generale and Paris Bible and what they are. That's what throws you off. The other stuff is pretty easy to understand. I can follow them. 10,000 people. They want 3.5% wage increase. It's the Airbus 330-340. What more information do you need? Bad surprise, he says. Social action. Bad surprise. They will take the social action. Here's the social action we have in the United States. So in France,

CHAPTER 07 / 29 Discussion

Cultural Protests, Everybody Draw Muhammad Day, Boobquake

The conversation shifts to unconventional forms of social protest, contrasting French labor unrest with American internet-based movements. Mentioned are "Everybody Draw Muhammad Day" and "Boobquake," a Facebook event where women displayed cleavage to test an Iranian cleric's claim that promiscuity causes earthquakes.

everybody draw muhammad day· boobquake· social media· protests· iran· cleavage

25:14 they're really smart they got and they hit people in the mouth literally they burn your car they don't think the white and my favorite thing is the wine wars that have been going on i've been following it on and off again they were bringing these wines in to blend with the french wines and so the fray in certain areas of france they these ones are coming from portugal or spain or whatever so that you would they would hijack that's the big trucks and then they'd dump the wine down the drain. Yeah, it's real social unrest. Yeah. And what we do in the United States, let's see, May 22nd is Everybody Draw Muhammad Day.

25:54 We're so radical. This is an actual. It's probably life. Yeah, it's like a snow anyway That's got to be a put on because you can't draw Mohammed well It's everybody's gotta be some sort of that now. I think you're missing this one I don't think so because drawing Mohammed is like the greatest evil that the Muslim can do well. That's why This is coming from A Seattle cartoonist. Yeah, this is a protest. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Oh, that's our version of a protest. That's our version of a protest. The best one though, the best one and I can't believe we can draw a picture of him. I can't believe we missed this one.

26:34 I don't think we it was so stupid we didn't even talk about the I think we did maybe the the cleric in Iran who said because women are dressed promiscuously. Oh yeah that's why that's why. We didn't miss it we ignored it. No no no no no you're missing the point. We missed boob quake day on Facebook where women around the United States that was on Monday promised and did, looking at the Facebook page, show as much cleavage and boobage as possible to try and create an earthquake. And of course, it was probably the quietest day ever on the geological chart. Yes, because it was all this momentum that was just offsetting the actual tectonic plate movement.

CHAPTER 08 / 29 Discussion

Ashgate Theory, Polish President Funeral, Global Warming Models

The hosts discuss "Ashgate," questioning the severity of the Icelandic volcanic ash cloud that grounded European flights. They explore a theory that the flight ban was a ruse to prevent world leaders, including Barack Obama, from attending the funeral of the Polish president following a plane crash, or a way to manipulate global warming data.

ashgate· eyjafjallajökull· barack obama· poland· volcanic ash· computer models

27:26 No man, the guys at the switch were just like, dood douchebags, don't touch anything, don't fire it off right now. Well we're on that topic. the ashgate thing, Ashmageddon, apparently you see the latest you know stories there was no ash in over England and you know because you were we were right at the beginning we contacted you had contacted people over there and they said I'm looking out here there's nothing the sky is blue and clear as a bell beautiful day to fly right which is of course in but

28:02 It probably was. Now it turns out that it was. Now that brings to mind, and I normally don't bring my own wives crackpot theories to play, but she brought this up. She said, what do you think if the whole thing, the whole Ashgate thing was used as a subtle, not so subtle ruse to keep people from going to the Polish funeral including Obama. Everybody canceled. Obama could have snuck in around the back door. He could have flown south and around. The guys from Germany could have come. They could have driven. They could have driven or taken the train. Everybody didn't take it because something was up.

28:40 Insofar as there was a coup d'etat plot or they're gonna kill all the world's leaders or there was some who knows what. Yeah, I'm sure. You know, it's not a good idea to go flying around over there no matter or even being there. You tend to get killed. I think that's a fine... Well, I did not. You know what it is? A lot of people use this for different reasons, and I'm still holding steadfast to the theory that it's just the same people who made the computer models for global warming. We know that when 9-11 struck and aviation was stopped for three days, temperatures rose remarkably in the United States. So maybe they use it to spike their numbers.

CHAPTER 09 / 29 Discussion

Aviation Safety Propaganda, Hudson River Crash, NTSB Reports

The hosts critique recent media coverage of aviation accidents, specifically a Wall Street Journal report by Andy Pasztor regarding a mid-air collision over the Hudson River. They argue the media is unfairly blaming air traffic controllers for personal phone calls to create a negative public perception of flying.

ntsb· hudson river· aviation safety· wall street journal· andy pasztor· air traffic control

29:27 But the never let a good crisis go to waste thing continues with all this aviation disaster John with the the train memes and It's kind of a long we're all over that. Well, I have a little more information for you if you're interested Yeah, I'm all over the train memes. So first of all, let's talk about how bad aviation is because aviation is clearly being put in a bad light whenever possible to promote taking the train. And it's in the psyche. I was in the car yesterday on my way to Oakland in the cab and I heard a commercial for Siemens International. I tried to find the commercial. Siemens, of course, makes trains. They're making high speed trains for China even.

30:12 And the commercial went something like this, you know, you can get from Los Angeles to San Francisco in two hours and 40 minutes. Siemens International High Speed Rail. I'm like, yeah, in 2025, if you're lucky, what are they doing with commercials running for that now? You know, and clearly it's mind controlling people to think about trains, trains, good trains, trains, trains. And then I'm start looking at it. There's a lot of by the way. Did I mention before maybe I did that it takes 24 hours to get from San Francisco to Seattle on a train? Yes, you did mention 24 hours. Well, if they had hookers on board, it would be okay. So here's just a quick rundown of bullshit aviation stories one.

31:01 Radiation exposure while flying. I'm not even going to get into these. These are so stupid. This is the oldest story ever. Yeah, so that one's cropping up again. I'm going to tell you, there's a reason why. Oh wait, I heard one myself the other day. They were talking about, yeah, it was a sports talk show. They were talking about the bad air in the airplane. Oh yeah, bad air in the airplane, radiation. Then yesterday, Wall Street Journal investigators cite several issues in Hudson crash now this irked me because Andy Pastor who lives in Los Angeles but uh actually he's been an anti-aviation guy you know he's been pulling apart Boeing in the past whenever there's something fishy going on with aviation he's always on it he's been around for a long time

31:52 And so I'm reading this, and this is about the Hudson crash between the sightseeing helicopter and a Piper aircraft. And so the article says, repeated safety violations by air traffic controllers led to the fatal midair collision between a sightseeing helicopter and a small private plane over the Hudson River in August, according to documents released Wednesday by federal investigators. And then, second paragraph, the National Transportation Safety Board information paints the most detailed picture yet of how a series of lapses by a number of controllers, including distractions caused by personal business, preceded the high-profile crash that killed nine people. So I'm like, wow.

32:34 So I know exactly what he was done in that voice. Yeah That's how Andy talks. So I go over to the NTSB website and you know, there's it specifically says because they Lisa they release a docket and The docket is we've done this before. It's very extensive. They have interviews with Well, it's interesting the website down and The NTSB is down. That's cool. More proof. Yeah, they have interviews with, you know, all the everybody involved, you know, people on the ground, but, you know, people who run the helicopter, people who run the maintenance for the helicopter. And it specifically states this is, you know, just factual information, no conclusions drawn whatsoever. And it's it's really not clear. In fact, it's a very unfortunate accident.

33:29 If anything, it's a very busy corridor and it was just bad timing, shit happens. This is a place in the Hudson River where General Aviation has to look out for each other. They were aware, they were warned. you know, and shit just bad shit happens but this phone call had nothing to do with what went down but it's completely being positioned as, oh the guy was on, you know, the air traffic control was on a personal call and then he couldn't warn them and I read through all the documents yesterday when I was pretending to look busy from EVO and

34:07 It's just not true what this Andy pastor is writing is not true. It is I'm sorry It's not true. You can interpret this in many different ways. It's an unfortunate accident No, but it's not because an air traffic controller was on the phone with somebody which by the way happens all the time Anyway, so it's just you know so that irks me and I put up a bunch of a bunch of information in the show notes about that then we get the passenger on an airliner who claimed he had dynamite Which, you know, and so we have, you know, this was on its way to from Paris to Atlanta. Yeah, some guy loaded up with Ambien apparently. Yeah, and I'm just reading the stories on this. And so there were air marshals on board and they put his laptop in the back of the plane and put pillows around it. Just in case. The pillows, yeah, okay. That's gonna help. This is making a lot of sense.

CHAPTER 10 / 29 Discussion

US High Speed Rail Association, Hill and Knowlton Propaganda

The US High Speed Rail Association (USHSR) is identified as using the PR firm Hill & Knowlton to promote rail travel in America. The hosts detail Hill & Knowlton's history with controversial clients like Big Tobacco and the Kuwaiti government during the Gulf War, suggesting a coordinated effort to push trains over planes.

hill and knowlton· ushsr· high speed rail· public relations· propaganda· siemens

35:07 And I'm like, okay, how is this being propagated? And who is behind the big push for rail? And then I find it, John. We have the US High Speed Rail Association. And this is a very interesting outfit. These are the guys that want to get us on board, pun intended, with the trains. And I find the article I'm looking for, who, because of course it's always the PR agencies who feed information to people like Andy there from the Wall Street Journal, because you know, there's no actual news reporting. They just take PR reports like, oh,

35:57 Yeah, you know people think that we're kidding when we say this but I can assure you someone's been in all aspects of that part of the media. You're a journalist! They, the PR people, took over the industry or took over the country probably in the 80s. And what they do is they send out press reports which of course are disguised as news And people just copied that and said, oh this is interesting, this is a good report, hey, you know, the guy was on the phone, airlines bad, flying bad, bad. So who did they hire, John? Which company do you think is the agency of record for the US High Speed Rail Association? Well, I mean, I don't know, it could be any one of the big PR companies like Hill & Knowlton. That, bingo!

36:47 Bingo. Oh, they were there the best Hill and Knowlton people have to know Hill and Knowlton is They used to be known as the crisis company. You got people dying of cancer from your cigarettes Hill and Knowlton will fix it for you Hill and Knowlton is the company that brought that woman remember during the Kuwaiti war? The Gulf War why they represented I have the list. Can I just give you the list of their clients? I Sure. Hill and Knowlton representing the Copenhagen Climate Council. Big tobacco, of course, this is all about the cancer. Desert Storm. Hill and Knowlton went to work for the government of Kuwait organizing PR in support of the war in Iraq. This is the... Remember the woman who testified about all these horrible things happening to her? The incubators. They're pulling kids out of incubators and killing them.

37:42 The public eats it up. They have, okay, in, I only have, in 2000 they had 15 million dollars in government PR contracts. They also represent the International Monetary Fund. These guys are amazing! Yeah, you find the people who, you know one of the things I've said this before on the show and I want to keep repeating myself all show this time but you know you it's very easy to deconstruct what's going on you read a book like Confessions of an Economic Hitman and then you go and do research on on the reviews of the book and find the people who slammed it.

38:26 And you'll find either people that are in the CIA or they're working for Hilton or whatever. And I'm not saying that somebody can't have a reasonable criticism of that book, but you can see if you find the person they're critical of the book and then start looking at their other material, you just see a pattern of like, holy mackerel, this person, why are they, you know, who's, who are they really working for? Well, they're working for the Ministry of Truth, obviously. And by the way, not everybody falls in that category, but it's very easy to see it when you do a back check on all the material they've written. Hilla Nolten is an outstanding organization when it comes to propaganda. They are without a doubt the best

39:08 uh... a largely invented modern public relations and and you can't even they're so good you can't track and is this does no way there's no way to for i mean we do we would have to be lucky someone in our audience one of our producers would have to run across one of their p r i mean they don't need just do p r releases they'll go to p r newswire so you know they get women to testify in front of congress on how these guys are amazing so Trains are it baby? Forget about it flying. So the killer Nolten is behind the high-speed rail. Yes the high school. We're screwed. Yes the high-speed route you should look at the website for the high-speed rail Association. It's it's unbelievable Hold on. Let me give you the the website address it is us HSR dot-com and Right on the front page

40:05 High Speed Rail is coming to Hollywood! I mean... Get on board for High Speed Rail! Join the movement to bring High Speed Rail to America! And it's, you know, they're turning this thing Hollywood. You watch, we'll have Hollywood people going out on high-speed trains. It's just unbelievable. Oh yeah, we'll have all the stupid celebrities who just, okay, oh, there's an event I can go to and have my picture taken? Where's the goodie bag? Is there a red carpet? Where's the red carpet? You watch, you watch. High-speed rail coming to Hollywood. Yeah, in 2030.

CHAPTER 11 / 29 Discussion

Corrine Brown, John Mica, High Speed Rail Promotion

Video press releases featuring Congresswoman Corrine Brown and Congressman John Mica are analyzed. The politicians promote high-speed rail as a way to move "people, goods, and services," while the hosts characterize the appearances as scripted PR events funded by the rail industry.

corrine brown· john mica· high speed rail· florida· infrastructure· transportation committee

40:48 Get on board now! People will be dead of an overdose by then. So here's Congressman John Micah, high-speed rail. I guess he's a stooge. Congresswoman Corrine Brown, another dummy. Oh, this is great. We could play one of these clips to see if it's any good, but it's... Who do you... Well, play Corinne Brown. She looks like she's just a stooge. Hold on a second. Corinne Brown. Oh, she does. And it looks like the outfit she's wearing... What is she wearing? A jogging uniform? That was... It was in the goodie bag. That's... Right, we gotta forget about the goodie bag. All right, here we... Ooh! They've got... Ooh! USHSR.

41:29 Congressman Kareem Brown, Chairwoman, Subcommittee on Railroads, Pipelines and Hazardous Materials. Okay. We're here with the Honorable Kareem Brown in her district and she is of course the chairperson of the rail subcommittee of the prestigious transportation and infrastructure committee. Tell us how you feel about high-speed rail finally coming to your state of... By the way, this is done in front of a sign that says US High-Speed Rail Association. So this is a PR... There's a video press release. Yeah, there's an X by her feet. Stand here. I am so excited. I was here coming to the conference

42:11 It should have taken me maybe an hour and 15 minutes. It took three hours. That's why we need high-speed rail. It is no question. Yeah, so you can do 24 hours to Seattle. We need to be able to move people, goods and services. And I am so pleased with the... That's the talking point. Move people, goods and services. Obama administration, Vice President Biden, who rode the train, you know, for 30 years, over 3,000 rides. understand the importance of rail. I mean keep in mind now just a couple years ago I was dealing with a zero out budget. Now we've been plussed up, we've got eight billion dollars, we've got additional monies in the upcoming... We've been plussed up?

42:50 Yeah, plus stuff. I like that. So it's an opportunity for Florida and the rest of the country to move forward. 50 years ago we made a commitment to highway and that was great but now we need to figure out how our competitors are already there. We're talking to people all over the world and they're moving their people and we're behind. But we're always behind. This is a new meme by the way. We're behind on broadband, we're behind on this, we're behind... My favorite one is, oh we're so far behind on cell phone technology. Remember that one from 10 years ago? Yeah, we're behind baby. Meanwhile, now the iPhone comes out, now we're suddenly ahead so we're not talking about it anymore. Yeah, no, we're behind other people.

43:29 How will it impact the everyday citizen of Florida? Oh, it'll be beautiful and the everyday citizen of America when high? We broke paying for that shit, baby real finally becomes a reality as I just said Can you imagine being able to get on a train and go from Orlando to Miami? 200 miles one hour in 15 minutes it will change not only the complex of the country but people can live and work anywhere and Oh, isn't that what we do with aviation? One hour and 15 minutes, 200 miles, that means the thing is chugging along at 180? Yeah, it's slow. Slow? High-speed rail, man, it's faster than that. We are going to have a series of listening and talking to the people in Florida about

44:17 where we want to go with high-speed but it's not just high-speed it's how we're going to do intermodal how we're going to work together whether it's rail high-speed. Intermodal? Is that world rail? Yeah, it's got something to do with deliveries of products. Commuter rail, how we're going to pull it together so we can move our state forward. Thank you, here's your check. Play the other guy too since we don't want to just have the one crazy old black man. This is John Mica, the crazy old white dude. And who is he, John? Sorry, the train went through my head. He's the ranking member of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure. This is from the same conference in front of the same sign. Please rise. Oh no, it's not. The ranking member, John Mica. Yay! Yay!

45:08 Thank you. Oh, he just handed him a check. I saw it. He gave it to him. The microphone. Thank you so much for being with us. Thank you for the generous introductions. I'm so pleased to be with the High Speed Rail Association here. If you're from out of town, welcome. And this is just a commercial outfit. You know, this is a bunch of people who make trains and rail, and they have an association, and all these guys are down there. You're from in town and you've heard me before, I apologize. And Charlie, thank you again for your leadership. Oh shut up, he's boring.

45:51 I just got back from Washington last night. Pleased to be here. It's cold up there. Especially for Republicans, as I've told folks. It's good to be home and see the sunshine. There's nothing. He's just boring. He took his check. He's like, I got the check. I don't have to say anything. I'm done. My work is done. So anyway, we jest of course, but it's good to know how this system works. And this is Hill and Knowlton at work. These guys are amazing. Amazing. When you see their name, you're in trouble. You're not going to win. It's Ogilvy and Mather who are the agency of record for Siemens Transportation. Oh, there you go. The other big boys. These guys are awesome. So they're the biggest people in the world, in the business.

CHAPTER 12 / 29 Discussion

US Rail Geography, California High Speed Rail Costs

A discussion on the logistical challenges of high-speed rail in the United States highlights the geographic differences between Europe and America. The hosts express skepticism regarding the $60 billion price tag and the engineering feasibility of the proposed San Francisco to Los Angeles rail line.

california· high speed rail· infrastructure· geography· san francisco· los angeles

46:50 who have completely hijacked news. Right, they can sell the, you know, ice refrigerators to Eskimos kind of thing. Sand to camels as it were. I mean, it's just unbelievable. So the public has no chance. I mean, we can come out here and moan and groan about it on our little show, but the fact of the matter is... You don't speak so highly of the show. It's a little show in terms of compared to the kind of impact that Hilda Nolten has. Our impact is one percent. typically uh... abuses not having to be a everyone listens they all this is terrible but we we can't uh... you can't turn the tide on hill and open no matter what it's impossible and it's impossible is just now i was a little bit we're screwed with this stupid high-speed rail that the united states is not we're not geographically equipped for high-speed rail it's inconvenient it works great in germany

47:43 It works great in a country like Holland. Holland is the size... I don't think there's a... Rhode Island, I mean, Holland is a small... It's smaller than Rhode Island. I can walk from one end of Holland to the other. It would take me a couple days, but I could do it. And you would look great. I'd lose some weight. But it's not like, you know, this is nothing. I mean, we know which country is a country, but most of our states are bigger than most countries in Europe. And that's where the rail works well. The cities are all right next to each other, you know, within like five or ten miles and they're big. and they have the older they think it's gonna cost a crap load of money and it's gonna be misdiagnosed i mean this san francisco to l a think is again because what they say three billion fifty six billion some like that it's gonna cost sixty billion dollar more i think more and and

48:32 They won't get it to work right, there's that damn mountain in between. But do you think, well they're gonna go around the mountain, but do you think... Besides that, it's not even gonna be that fast. You gotta go from San Francisco out to the valley where Highway 5 is and then shoot down. It's gonna go via San Diego. I have the plans here. No, it goes to LA then San Diego. Yeah, LA, San Diego, San Francisco. Yeah, but it doesn't go straight to San Francisco. It goes through a gap. It actually goes to Sacramento. Yeah, but do you think this is good as an economy booster? God, no.

49:08 Unless you're putting down rails a big deal. I mean, I guess I... Well, that's how it's being sold, is saying this is really good because it'll put people to work on the railroad, on the chain gang. Well, that's, yeah, it'll do that to some extent for sure. But you know, it's like, you know, and that was like in 1860 when they had to bring all these Chinese in to do it because who wants to do that work? Nobody. But we may be doing it soon enough, John. If donations don't perk up, we'll be working on the chain gang. So we do have, we might as well mention some donations that we got this week. Oh crap, are we already there? Wow, that went fast. Yeah, it was funny, you subconsciously segued to it. Nice. We haven't even gotten to the Arizona stories, we'll get back to those. Let me open up our little thing here and thank some people. And yeah, we do have some discussion.

CHAPTER 13 / 29 Discussion

Listener Donations, No Agenda Karma, Thomas Gilear

The hosts read letters from donors, including Sean Ruble and Kevin Duesling, and discuss the "No Agenda Karma" phenomenon where contributors report finding new jobs after donating. Various donation amounts, including "two nickels on the dime" ($5.55) and Fibonacci numbers, are acknowledged.

no agenda karma· donations· lockheed marietta· fibonacci· merck· thomas gilear

49:59 people calling each other douchebags which I think is, I don't know how we got that started but I feel bad about it. Thanks for the great show says Sean Arubel, R-W-R-U-B-E-L, Arubel I guess in Marietta, Georgia, home of the Lockheed Marietta. Nice little town I've been there actually. Great show, listening since December. He's a student, he gave us 75 bucks. He's a student, really doesn't have any extra money, but it's my birthday on Thursday the 29th. It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so glad you're here. That's right, everybody, we're giving a shout out to Sean Ruble. Happy birthday, my friend. It's your birthday, yeah.

50:48 happy birthday sean canada can do is laying a game is sixty six five four three isn't stitsville ontario and he would call it a sister-in-law lulu lily snide lee that is indeed a real name as a douche bag and listening to the show for many months she says the no agenda shows what gets you through the long nights as a shift he our nurse in simcoe ontario time to make a donation sister And then, Ken Duesling, who did two nickels on the dime again with another donation, he says, by the way, I have it on good authority that my father, Ken, will be donating to this Thursday show. Which, oh, he did. Okay. This is Kevin Duesling. This is the kind of thing that's going on. So Kevin donated

51:39 Saying that his dad Ken who just donated He says he'll be donating to the show and will be calling out my aunt as a douchebag, you know Defender honor I'm doing the same I call out Ken as a douchebag This reminds me of Heather and her boyfriend who got into a beef on our show. This is actually more like a family game. It's like Scrabble. You know, you can also, it's like Clue. You can all sit down and call each other douchebags through the show. We're going to put an end to it, by the way. By the way, uh... I think we did break up Heather and her boyfriend because... We haven't heard from him. We haven't heard from him. Anyway, so Kevin's calling out Ken, who was calling out his sister, and Kevin's defending the sister. I don't know. You're forgetting the most important part of the message here. A shout-out to my fiancé, Emily. Mr. Curry's velvet voice warms her very soul. Huh.

52:41 That didn't come through on my printout. Well, maybe I'll talk like you do now. David Groff, 6180, a Fibonacci number. He's in Cincinnati, Ohio. Brian Reynolds, a Little Egg Harbor in New Jersey, two nickels on the dime. also uh... apparently uh... almost killed himself when you play the aussie crazy train during the the priestry straight driving i guess you can it was loud uh... it was like a lynch stroker of uh... russell bill or is a strockner strockner struck russellville arkansas graduating from college looking for some uh... could be joined the karma club uh... brett pinter fifty three thirty three from southland michigan

53:31 He also sent an email and I have to go look it up and read it later in the show. There's a new website I'd like to mention, noagendakarma.com Christopher, by the way, and we haven't put any entries in there because I don't want to be paraphrasing or copying emails without permission. So if you have a story about how No Agenda gave you some good karma, here's another example from Christopher. Thanks for your service and for airing my support or my tip on Merck invading university newspapers with vaccine PSAs. At the time I had just lost my job about a week and a half later.

54:11 After I contributed to the show, I got a job which is much better than my old one. Thanks for the karma, guys. And it turns out that a lot of people who donate to the show, amounts don't seem to really matter. Although you might want to always try and tip the scales in your favor. people seem to get work from this. So if you have a story, negative or positive, we're really trying to track this. So far, I don't think we have any stories where someone donated and did not get an upgrade or a gig posted at noagendakarma.com. Yeah, go to noahjennthekarmer.com and then we can maybe, we can document some of this stuff. Because I don't want to just say that this happens when people are saying it's happening all the time. And so, you know, I'm not gonna, we don't want to make, we want to have proof because people say, ah, these guys are just full of crap. Yeah, we don't want to be like PBS. David Lee gave us 50 bucks saying he likes to listen to Adam because he makes me feel sane by comparison. Hey, wait a minute. Douchebag. Okay.

55:16 Anyway, we got OKC Defensive Tactics, Charles Newberry, Barry Wilson, Coffs Harbor, Australia. And by the way, the Charles Newberry to Wanda, Pennsylvania is in honor of Heinrich Moltke. I'm getting a lot of that. DUI-help.com, David Lee, Christopher Garluck, who I think we talked about, and Jeffrey, who I'll never pronounce his name, L-E-E-N-T-J-E-S, from Helvurtsopmerothersloop. Okay, it's time for an official no agenda Dutch pronunciation moment. Jeffrey Leentjes, say it with me now. Leentjes. Leentjes, very good. And he's from Hellevoetsluis.

56:12 We don't laugh at names here, John. Hellevoetsluis. Hellevoetsluis. It doesn't say that. It does. It doesn't say that. It says... Well, Hellevoetsluis. That's how you pronounce it. Well, it's a beautiful sounding thing, but they don't... I know what the problem is. These are spellings that are not... Is this the Dutch spelling, actually? John, let me think. It's another language! Of course it's spellings. Have you ever tried to pronounce Russian in Russian spelling? Oh, that's strange. It's not an American spelling. What's that in English? So let's go over a couple more two nickels on the dime people that are going and we came out of our mailing. And we do have a bunch of people that are getting in on the, we have the Deuce Club.

57:03 which we should talk about what i want to let the locals on the dime first and we'll do the juice kevin alcock uh... daniel rudolph kate kyle froze f r o e s e and he's also wants to call it jerry meyer his fellow co-worker and a faithful listener as a douchebag that's been done uh... dan dee ring so who uh... He says that he gave us money because our audio quality didn't fade last week. Yeah, and it's the first time ever. You know what? And this actually is because of your support that the show is sounding better. Mark Jasper, who also apparently from the bum mentioned in the show, I guess somebody called him a bum or something, I don't know. No, it doesn't count. And yeah, it's not the same as a douchebag. And whoops.

57:59 I was reading this off the PayPal thing and they just signed me out. Let me sign myself back in. Alright, now I think we also have knighthoods. Do you just want to do those on Sunday? No, no, we only have the one knighthood that I know of unless... do we not do... I'm getting... I see the note from Eric, the shill says two knighthoods. and it doesn't say who. Where are the knighthoods on the spreadsheet? Oh, by the way, the last guy in the two nickels on the dime is Thomas Gilear. So, Thomas, thanks. So while you're looking up the knighthoods, I want to thank everybody and it's a nice list. That's probably, I don't know, it's hard to tell because they come in at different times. Well, could it be Joseph Willis? Did we give him a knighthood from last week?

CHAPTER 14 / 29 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Sir Liam Duffield

Liam Duffield is officially knighted as "Sir Liam Duffield" for contributing over $1,000 to the program. The hosts perform the traditional ceremony, welcoming him to the No Agenda Round Table.

liam duffield· knighthood· no agenda· donation· ceremony

58:50 Okay, well what we're gonna have to do, because unfortunately what happened is Eric's power is down so we can't ask him. So, but we should do, we have to do Liam. Liam Duffield is a knight today. We should give it to him. We can give Joseph his on Sunday. Okay, John, are you ready to unsheath? Yep. You have a large unit there. Yep. Let me grab mine. Liam Duffield, please come before us as you have supported the No Agenda show in excess of $1,000 which gives you the official title of a knighthood. You are hereby deemed Sir Liam Duffield, Knight of the No Agenda Round Table. Please join the table and our hookers and blow.

59:45 or pancakes whichever one you choose. Now if Willis is indeed a knight today, then we'll do him on Sunday. And he'll be a black knight. Ooh yes. Right. So he has that advantage. Couple things. So first of all, I want to thank everyone who donates smaller amounts that are either on the lucky number 30 or the $5 a month plan. This is hugely appreciated because by about the time the high speed rail is in place, we'll actually be sustained on those monthly contributions. And even if you donate a larger amount, please consider signing up for something on the monthly. You make the show work. We don't take any commercials, there's no interruption, we don't have Hill and Knowlton shilling around us, we don't stand in front of signs telling people how great stuff is, we just say it how it is. And a lot of work goes into this show, a lot of work.

CHAPTER 15 / 29 Discussion

Deuce Club, Episode 200 Special, Direct Mail Marketing

The hosts promote the "Deuce Club," a special membership for the upcoming 200th episode. They promise to deconstruct their own marketing tactics, direct mail strategies, and the history of the show in a private episode for donors.

deuce club· episode 200· marketing· direct mail· sales pitches· dvorak.org

1:00:38 a lot we do we do have this interlude in the den between here where we talk about people who who helped support the show and i think that this is we do it in an entertaining manner and you can go to know agenda a show dot com and and link to the uh... devore dot org slash n a for donations and we also haven't uh... currently we have a promotion uh... called the deuce club for anyone who wants to give us two hundred dollars we can tell celebrate our special third show that will only be listenable To people who have either donated or members of the deuce club where we talk about and we'll thank you on that show by the way And we're going to it's gonna be a special show. It's gonna be quite interesting and it won't be Published publicly on the feed right it's going to be no no this is definitely a private show

1:01:24 and so douchebags not allowed and it's and you can go and uh... did get in on that by going to new devore act dot org slash to number two or juice and you can join the deuce club and we have we've got a few members that will talk about on the special show which we've done on the the day of the uh... of our two hundred show this about the two hundred show is a lot of shows for us and and somebody mentioned one more little thing i we didn't turn into a promotion i think it's something you should think about that we've got coming up May 5th 2010 which is five five ten two nickels on the dime. Double nickels on the dime beautiful and what and what day of the week is that? I don't know take a look at the calendar you can do that. Do we have a do we have a show on that day? I have to look myself. I'm looking my calendar is borked.

1:02:18 Oh, you have a Mac, that's probably why. It's Wednesday. It's a Wednesday. Yeah. So it shows the next day and we'll have people, everyone who does two nickels on the dime before next Wednesday, we'll get a special call out. So, um, a couple more followups. So first of all, the do show, you know, John won't admit to it, but we had a meeting at the meeting. It wasn't really a meeting. You were outside of their offices over in San Francisco smoking. Let's have a meeting. and uh... we're gonna deconstruct the show as well as we're actually going to take our own show apart yeah and we're going to take apart the these these please for contributions and donations and support we're gonna talk about how that works what we're doing uh...

1:03:01 I'll talk about the, you know, I sent out a mailing the other day to get people to join the Deuce Club. I'm gonna talk about, you know, direct mail. How it works, yeah, how it works. Solicitations, I'm gonna tell you what the sales pitches are, how they work, what to look for if you wanna say, ah, it's just the sales pitch. Well, we have a lot of sales pitches. We have to, because it's the only way we're gonna keep the show going. But, well, we're gonna deconstruct ourselves and how the show got started. It's gonna be a little history. It should be entertaining. We'll probably drift off into discussing the news while we're at it, but. I think people who really like the show and have been contributing and supporting the show because we do the show for them, they will enjoy this special episode. And I'll tell you...

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CHAPTER 16 / 29 Discussion

Cryptococcus Gatti Fungus, Operation Paperclip, Colonia Dignidad

A complex theory is presented linking a deadly fungus in the Pacific Northwest, Cryptococcus gatti, to Nazi biological research. The narrative connects the daughter of a Nazi associate in Chile's Colonia Dignidad to modern fungal research, suggesting the fungus may have been released as a weapon during the Vancouver Olympics.

cryptococcus gatti· operation paperclip· colonia dignidad· paul schaefer· joseph mengele· vancouver olympics

1:04:23 And I think there's two proxies, there's another one. And those are all listed in the show notes, so... Which we consider support too, by the way. The proxy is a very handy thing to have, especially when you're at the office. That guy at the SEC could have used the proxy. Yeah. Oh yeah, hey, you know, it's interesting. Where are those people? We're still waiting for the SEC porn meisters to show up. Now I do have another story, John. I opened the show by talking about the fungus. that is killing people in the northwest. It's the Cryptococcus gaudi fungus. John Gaudi fungus. There is by the way a cure or I should say treatment for this fungus which basically infects your lungs and kills you. Very similar to valley fever that happens in California which is a fungus.

1:05:22 It's interesting that this can only be treated with, it's almost like chemotherapy. You have to be on an IV drip for 14 days. There's some Japanese outfit that makes some kind of treatment for it, but still you're pretty much gonna die. And it's already killed over 23 people. So there's a theory about where this is coming from and I found that Crazy, but I found it not beyond the realm of belief refreshingly crazy so Refreshingly, so you know what operation paperclip is John. No. I never heard of it really yeah, really Wow Okay, operation paperclip was the program that the OSS. That's the precursor to the CSI When CIA you miss yes, I did what's the difference the CIA is

1:06:18 They brought all of the Nazi scientists into the United States kind of in their turmoil right after the Second World War. And this is how they got a whole bunch of guys in and we started our weapons programs because the Germans were pretty advanced with rocketry and of course nuclear Bombage etc. So operation paperclip, which is declassified. It's it's well known So they brought all these guys into the United States, but a couple of them were pretty much too hot to handle and so they sent him down to Chile, you know this reports of Argentina, but Chile is interesting because there was a guy who worked very closely with Joseph Mengele

1:07:05 who of course was the horrible doctor who was experimenting on children and making kids kill their brothers and sisters and doing sex change operations, all kinds of crazy ass shit. This guy's name was Paul Schaefer. He actually reportedly just died last week. But they sent him to Chile And they made, they put them into this kind of cultish colony, like a compound called Colonia Dignidad. I'm sure you've never heard of this either. Nope. So there's a very interesting wiki page on Colonia Dignidad.

1:07:51 This is about 300 people living there. They've got two airstrips, restaurant, their own power station. There's barbed wired fences around the whole thing. It's a protected compound and even Simon Wiesenthal. Said hey, there's Nazis in there. We need to open up this thing and find out who's they even thought that Joseph Mengele himself Might be in this colony and a couple of people have escaped over the years and they're like it didn't you know? It's crazy this Paul Schaefer who was in the Luftwaffe He's been running the place. He's been sexually abusing boys Just all kinds of really nasty stuff. They found huge arms caches

1:08:32 near the compound, so it's really bad news and all things point to, you know, clearly some kind of setup and if you follow the reports then, you know, this guy was too either too high up or too dangerous to just bring into Operation Paperclip and bring into the United States. So, but he of course always wanted to propagate some of the Nazi ideas and you know probably killing. Alright get to the point. So he has a daughter Rebecca, Rebecca Schaefer and she just happens to be one of the world's leading researchers of CryptoCacusGotti.

1:09:19 Oh really? Oh really! Huh. And so the thinking is that this, that support, either she or supporters of her father, he adopted her. There's even some reports that she might have been the actual biological daughter of Mengele. that they released a weapons-grade version of Cryptococcus Gotti during the Vancouver Olympics. Of course, Olympics having a couple of great things about it. First of all, a lot of Nazi symbolism, including the rings, which were never there until Hitler held the Berlin Games. Is that right? Yes, that's well known. The rings were Nazi symbolism. The rings were never there before.

1:10:03 And of course there's people from all over the world there, so it's a perfect place to drop some shit. Now it doesn't spread fast, but it kills extremely effectively. And that's where you have to be looking out for. I found it interesting that Rebecca is one of the leading researchers on, of all things, Cryptococcus Gotti. That's amazing. I'll give you a 10. You win on that one. Well, at the end we're all going to lose, if I'm right. Yeah, well obviously. Well that's not good. I haven't had that reported anywhere. Yeah. Good connection. Alright, I'm sure that's another cheery thing for our listening audience. Hey, that's okay. You can call me. You can call me. Gooshbag. No problem. So let's lighten things up a little bit. I got a couple clips. Please. Do you have something funny? I have a clip from your absolute favorite entertainer. Yes. Oh, let me guess. Is it the comedian known as Rachel Maddow?

1:11:06 stink. Oh no! Stink my... Oh I love stink so stink. So they apparently there's this clip going around where sting is or stink as as Adam likes to call him and you'll find it on this clips too by the way at the bottom. Yeah I got it. He goes, he's like he's stoned or something talking about the things that need to change in this world, about global warming, all the rest of it. And then he kind of associates himself with the Tea Party movement for some unknown reason and then makes the claim that what we really need is not only big government but just huge, bigger government. And I don't get it. This whole thing is just nuts to listen to it.

CHAPTER 17 / 29 Discussion

Sting, Big Government Advocacy, Tea Party Comparison

The musician Sting is criticized for a clip in which he advocates for "big government" to solve global problems, comparing his stance to a "Tea Party movement" for the environment. The hosts mock his pretentiousness and his history of taking large performance fees from controversial figures.

sting· big government· tea party· environmentalism· tantric sex

1:10:03 And of course there's people from all over the world there, so it's a perfect place to drop some shit. Now it doesn't spread fast, but it kills extremely effectively. And that's where you have to be looking out for. I found it interesting that Rebecca is one of the leading researchers on, of all things, Cryptococcus Gotti. That's amazing. I'll give you a 10. You win on that one. Well, at the end we're all going to lose, if I'm right. Yeah, well obviously. Well that's not good. I haven't had that reported anywhere. Yeah. Good connection. Alright, I'm sure that's another cheery thing for our listening audience. Hey, that's okay. You can call me. You can call me. Gooshbag. No problem. So let's lighten things up a little bit. I got a couple clips. Please. Do you have something funny? I have a clip from your absolute favorite entertainer. Yes. Oh, let me guess. Is it the comedian known as Rachel Maddow?

1:11:06 stink. Oh no! Stink my... Oh I love stink so stink. So they apparently there's this clip going around where sting is or stink as as Adam likes to call him and you'll find it on this clips too by the way at the bottom. Yeah I got it. He goes, he's like he's stoned or something talking about the things that need to change in this world, about global warming, all the rest of it. And then he kind of associates himself with the Tea Party movement for some unknown reason and then makes the claim that what we really need is not only big government but just huge, bigger government. And I don't get it. This whole thing is just nuts to listen to it.

1:11:47 People who care about clean water and fresh air for their children to breathe, food that doesn't kill you, a better planet, a safer planet. And it is a Tea Party movement. People are here to really tell big government that we want big government to make big decisions about the most important problems we face. And also to pressure corporations to behave properly as consumers. We're asking for big government. You know, screw this guy! Asking for... you missed the end of it. Let me hear it again. Screw this guy. Let me hear what he says at the end. This guy pisses me off. As consumers, we're asking for big government, basically.

1:12:33 We're asking for big government basically. Which is the Tea Party movement. Okay stink. So after he did message in a bottle it pretty much went downhill from there. Then he started putting plates in his lip with his buddies from the Amazon. This guy's a pretentious cock. Just a pretentious cock. He is nothing more than that. How do you really feel? He takes two million dollars for a gig from, you know, evil warlords, puts it in his pocket, and then he's going like, oh, save the rainforest, and Trudy and I have tantric sex for hours, and we want big government! You're a cock, stink! You're a cock is all you are! Alright, alright. So, uh...

CHAPTER 18 / 29 Discussion

Phoenix Kidnapping Crisis, Arizona Immigration Law

The discussion focuses on the high rate of kidnappings in Phoenix, Arizona, which is cited as being second only to Mexico City globally. The hosts argue that the national media and politicians are ignoring this crime wave while debating the racial profiling aspects of the new Arizona immigration law.

phoenix· arizona· kidnapping· sb 1070· crime wave· mexico city

1:13:21 So, okay, so the Arizona action is where, you know, all the news, all the right and left wing, everybody is discussing. I just want to, I have a lot of clips to back up what I'm going to say, but let me just kind of summarize a couple points that I've noticed that are interesting to me. One is that both sides of the argument, the left wing and the right wing, uh... seem to be talking around each other and all of them the out they all have they're all missing the the real point of the arizona law that's been passed to stiffen the borders a little bit and the fact that they're asking for three thousand national guards to to help guard the place Yeah, bring the military in. Always a good idea. The fact of the matter is, there is a crime wave in Arizona and there's one aspect of this that neither side... they mention it every once in a while they get a guest on that talks about it but they don't ever really talk about it.

1:14:10 and that is, and let's go over, let me just bring out some information that people should know. The kidnapping capital of the world is Mexico City. Mexico City, it's like dangerous to be in Mexico City unless you want to get kidnapped. Yeah, Mickey went there on vacation once and she had two full-time bodyguards, even when she went to the bathroom. Right, because she could get kidnapped. The other place you run into there's a kidnapping nightmare is Sao Paulo, Brazil and also Rio de Janeiro. In Bid Fit they always tell you, oh you're brought by yourself in Sao Paulo, you know this is dangerous, you should have somebody with you at all times. This corner is where they kidnap people, I mean it's amazing. And there's all kinds of weird crime in Brazil.

1:14:54 but but those are like really major kidnapping areas it when i said i was in brazil were driving along and on non-sum back row not admit that downtown south poland and and there's a car dealership with some crazy number but portuguese where i never heard of i can't think of what it was as a what what does that mean and they saw that's a car dealership that only sells armored cars and so you can buy a mercedes you can buy a hummer you know what else they have in brazil chicks with dicks I wouldn't know. So anyway, so they have this place only sells cars for the rich because the rich can't drive. You can't drive a Mercedes in Brazil and not worry about getting kidnapped. Let's get back to Arizona. Let me finish. I'm wrapping. I'm going back to Arizona. Mexico City, when I was there the last time, said, oh, there's no Mercedes Benz. People can't drive a nice car. They drive Volkswagens and beat up old junkers because they can't risk being spotted as someone who could be kidnapped for ransom.

1:15:50 Now, here's what neither one of these sides want to talk about. Phoenix, Arizona, right now is number two in the world to Mexico City. Forget about Brazil with 30 million people in Sao Paulo. Doesn't hold a candle to Phoenix, Arizona, number one in the country, number two in the world for kidnappings at the rate of 400 a year. Wow. This, neither side wants to talk about it. This is what the problem really is. People aren't safe in Arizona anymore. And if you have that many kidnappings, and if you listen to all the memes and say, well, you know, we're worried about, let's, you know, San Francisco douchebag mayor over here says, we're gonna stop doing business with Arizona. Good, keep people out of Arizona, you're doing him a favor. But his thing is, it's gonna hurt the tourist trade. What's gonna hurt the tourist trade is if tourists figure this out. So the right-wingers have not said anything about it, because oh God, we might hurt the tourist trade. So let's don't say anything about the kidnappings, murders, and rapes.

1:16:48 And so the left-wingers don't want to say anything about, oh, it's going to demean the Mexican people. You know, because essentially it's, you know, the gangs are coming up here, MS-13s and, you know, they're talking, well, they can line up for their citizenship. They don't want to be citizens. This has basically become a wild west mess. It's extremely dangerous in Arizona. I would stay out of the state. How did this happen, John? How did this... Lacks law enforcement and I hate to say it, but the liberals who, oh no, we can't do profiling for heaven's sake.

1:17:25 Oh yes I know he's got tattoos all over him that say MS-13 but you can't, he's not doing anything he's just standing there. So what difference does it make? We can't profile him because he's covered with tattoos. Right. Here go to the clips to play a couple of these things. Obama on Arizona. Here's Obama's solution. Let's, you know, let's put him in line and make him citizens. Remember this, they don't want to be citizens. They want to kidnap you. They want to kidnap you. Play Obama. Make them register. Make them pay a fine. Make them learn English. Make them take responsibility for the fact that they broke the law. You make them get in the back of the line.

1:18:16 But you also say, okay, if you do it the right way, then you have a chance to become an American citizen. And if we have that kind of comprehensive approach, then we can once again be a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. Now, I've been pushing for this. I want it to happen. The only way it's going to happen- That's good. You kill it. I don't understand. Is this guy an idiot? Yes. Why isn't anyone just saying, hey, we got a kidnapping problem over here? Kidnapping their number one in the country for this is going to be the murder capital in no time. They say it just makes no sense. Home invasions and identity theft. Why don't they just say it?

1:19:02 say it. Because they can't. The one side, the left-wingers can't say it because, oh, it's going to hurt someone's feelings. And the right-wingers can't say it because, oh, God, the tourist trade is going to dry up and people aren't going to go to all those great resorts outside of Phoenix. So they're all mum on this. This is the problem with mainstream media and why people need to support our show because we just see right through. Anybody can see through this crap. Once you start doing the research, go out there, anyone listening to this show, go to Google and look up Phoenix kidnapping and you'll find out that Phoenix is number two in the entire world

CHAPTER 20 / 29 Discussion

Russell Pearce, MS-13 Gang, Arizona Law Authorship

Arizona State Senator Russell Pearce, the sponsor of the immigration bill, defends the legislation by citing extreme violence, including the murder of law enforcement officers and ranchers. The hosts also discuss the MS-13 gang and alleged ties to international terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah.

russell pearce· ms-13· arizona· immigration· home invasions· hamas

1:24:31 and you know i say was a southern part of the state is all this violence done because there's a shootouts going on constantly in the place is completely out of control this guy's like done drugs or something i have no idea what the deal is and uh... it's just the whole thing is is ridiculous not let me get a couple more dot of the way and i'll be done with this topic but at least i want people out there to know that uh... what is really about and that what is really about it what the citizens there know what it's about uh... this i think this would be a off the clips one collection uh... one guy did come at the guy who wrote the the author of the arizona bill which is under the canada authorize that bill who actually brings up some some of the most important parts of this he doesn't talk about ms thirteen or anything like that but he does defend himself for

1:25:17 authoring the bill on one of these shows. You should explain briefly what MS-13 is. MS-13 is a gang that comes out of, I think they're out of Guatemala or El Salvador or some small country and they became a Mexican drug gang. Now they're believed to be, somebody mentioned this on another show I don't have the clip but I could get it that apparently there's some evidence that they're being financed by Hamas and Hezbollah because you know they'll take any money they can get and they're extremely violent gang they're all over the country they are responsible for most of the meth in California and elsewhere and it's a very powerful gang and they're apparently taking over Arizona and that's one of the things they're trying to deal with but you know meanwhile the Republicans and the Democrats and the conservatives and the liberals are missing the point they're just attacking each other.

1:26:08 The congressman also said he wants President Obama to fight the new law. Arizona State Senator Russell Pierce joins us live. State Senator Pierce sponsored the controversial bill. Good evening, sir. And what provoked or prompted you to sponsor this bill in the first place? the rule of law, Greta. I mean, the stories they tell, the outrageous fabrications and myths are just, it's unbelievable. In this bill, we mirrored federal law. It's illegal to enter or remain in this country in violation of federal law. We have simply mirrored that. Nobody's erased the Fourth and Fourteenth Amendments. In fact, we put profiling as an illegal issue in the bill. We codified it. We made sure people can't racial profiling. These are the most outrageous stories in the world.

1:26:52 What we've done in this bill, very simply, is, and I've watched over the years, it get more and more violent. You know, number two in the world in kidnappings, we've got the home invasion, carjack, identity theft of the nation. I've been to Officer Erfley who was murdered at his funeral, Officer Atkins, Officer Martin, Officer Eagle, Rob Krentz was just murdered on the border. I just had a hearing from the ranchers down on the border, a half a day hearing of the Senate. Their fences are cut, their cattle is slaughtered, their dogs are killed, their houses and windows and doors are boarded. They're fearful, they pray for daylight because they hear noises, scared to come outside. Enough is enough. We're a nation of laws. This doesn't change anything. All I've done, very simple. I like that!

1:27:36 Alright, so this, let me just recap John. This guy just said it. It's pandemonium in Arizona. It's out of control. We need to do something about it. But the media, particularly cable news and all the way to Rush Limbaugh are A, too stupid to Google Arizona. Arizona problem is what you can Google. Arizona kidnapping, look that one up. Yeah, I know, I've been doing that during the clip. And they need someone to come down there and kick some ass.

1:28:13 And they're signing... They need to declare martial law. No one's... I bet no one's even read the bill who's reporting on it. And of course I haven't either, but I'm going to. And it makes total sense, but we've gotten into this pussification of the nation where it's like, oh, it's unfair, but it sounds like there's some bad crap going on in Arizona. They need help. Yeah, they should declare martial law then you can deal with your racial profiling that way. 70% of the population of Arizona, there's only one guy, there's one congressman that's down on the border area that supports the Mexican, open borders and the Mexicans coming over and raping. Now, or kidnapping and raping, they usually go hand in hand.

CHAPTER 21 / 29 Discussion

American Exceptionalism Meme, Obama Campaign, Media Bias

The hosts deconstruct the "American Exceptionalism" meme used by conservative commentators to criticize President Obama. They argue the term is a meaningless propaganda tool and criticize media figures like Rachel Maddow for focusing on racial profiling rather than the underlying crime issues in Arizona.

american exceptionalism· barack obama· rachel maddow· propaganda· memes· conservative media

1:28:53 Now here's one that here's a here's the one I don't want to keep playing these things on play one more because This was a good clip by the way because he actually said it right there. He said enough is enough I like yeah, yeah, he said well he wrote the bill all right, but nobody was you know he's a racist pig So here's on the second group of clips, the one meme while discussing AZ. Now you're gonna hear a, we haven't talked about this meme, but you're gonna hear it at the end of this guy. This is a typical right-winger conservative, you know, kind of pussyfooting around the issue in Arizona and then slipping the meme in. It's only did it for a point of propaganda. By the way, this meme

1:29:37 I find extremely annoying. I don't disagree with the concept, but it keeps cropping up in the conversations. It's an obvious talking point amongst the conservatives. I just keep a lookout for it. ...to reverse the law that was just signed by the governor the other day. I'm wondering if we look at the map of Congressman Grajalva's congressional district, if we haven't already ceded that component of Arizona to Mexico, judging by the voice that comes out of him, he's advocating for Mexico rather than the United States and against the rule of law, which is one of the central pillars of American exceptionalism. The rule of law? American exceptionalism. It's hard to say. American exceptionalism. Let me hear it again. Against the rule of law, which is one of the central pillars of American exceptionalism. What is American exceptionalism? Well, you're not listening to enough of these shows. By the way, I don't see how a pillar of law has got anything to do with American exceptionalism. Does that mean we're great?

1:30:35 We're awesome? America! Fuck yeah! Time to take on the motherfucking world, yeah, America! Okay, okay. Don't go into singing, whatever you... Wait, I thought I had that clip somewhere. I love that. So, American exceptionalism came up as a meme during the Obama initial campaign. It's never really gotten uh... is stronghold but it keeps and obama actually poop who did i i had a could be never played at one point where he kind of goes well uh... american everyone's you know american exceptionalism though somebody has some depressed average

1:31:11 Do you believe in American exceptionalism? And he says, well, of course I do. But I think you could ask anyone from any country if they believe in Belgian exceptionalism or United Kingdom exceptionalism. Belgium has exceptional muscles. And so he like basically, you know, marginalized the idea, but the conservatives keep bringing it up. And the thing they're trying to promote is the idea that Obama thinks we're a bunch of boneheads in the US. He does, he's not really an American. He's, he's doesn't, he doesn't believe in American exceptionalism. He doesn't believe we can go kick everybody's ass. Even though he's probably doing it more than anyone. He's kicking everyone's ass, killing people everywhere. Yeah. But anyway, so this, so this little meme crops up. I find it extremely annoying because I, whether it's, you know, American exceptionalism, what does that mean? It is a meaningless piece of term that is like, okay, yeah, okay. We were, we were,

1:32:07 we're different i can it be does no doubt about that and probably and maybe superior a lot of cultural ways and maybe inferior in a lot of cultural ways but as we side the point we're just different we actually have a a culture of our own of sorts and then we should just defend that i mean whether it's you know, some, I mean there's a lot of things that we're not number one at. Bringing you online streaming exceptionalism. This is a no agenda show. I think we should do that. That's a good one. But anyway, I think the, I think we, being honest about being number two or Hey, we're number two in kidnappings. We can do better. We can be exceptional. We can turn Phoenix into Mexico City. So anyway, we'll get into that part of that debate some other time. That is excellent, John. I really appreciate that and it bogues me out.

1:32:57 Although I'm glad that there are shows like our little program here that at least are telling people what it's really about and that clip from the guy who wrote the bill is so incredibly telling. If only someone would latch on to that. But no, we all have to be on board with the program about discrimination and it's the brown people. Bullcrap! We got some bad seeds down there and if we really are exceptional we'll go down there and kick their ass. Well, the pillars of law So anyway, so there's just a bunch of blowhards all over the place about this topic and I find it... I can't get away from it because I watch a lot of these shows to see what they're discussing and that's all they're discussing and they're all this they're all wrong skirting the issue no they're skirting the issue they don't even know the issue I think it's some well Rachel Maddow doesn't know the issue smug little bitch so I'm sorry I shouldn't have done that I just get worked up because I watched her on a whole program about you know racial I'm like what

CHAPTER 22 / 29 Discussion

Counterfeit Goods Seizure, Hezbollah Terrorism Financing

The FBI and federal officials execute a massive seizure of $240 million in counterfeit goods across 30 cities. The hosts link this to the ACTA agreement and reports that terrorist groups like Hezbollah use the sale of fake luxury items, such as Rolex watches and Coach handbags, to finance their operations.

counterfeit goods· hezbollah· fbi· rolex· terrorism financing· acta

1:34:00 Yeah, and you can assume, if you ask Rachel Maddow, Joy Behar, Oberman and all the rest about what is this Arizona thing they say well it's about racial profiling because they hate Mexicans you know that's basically it meanwhile people are being murdered there is just a moment of intimidation the gangs are taking over. It's the number two kidnapping capital of the entire world we're talking Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro taking a backseat to Phoenix are you kidding me Alright on a lighter note time for some humor. I guess a lot of humorous stuff. I got some humor, too All right, so you know that the president of the United States said he could not although the a lot of its leaked out He could not really reveal the contents of the ACTA agreement. This is the international intellectual property agreement that our global government is putting in place because of the national security and

1:35:02 And of course we laugh at that, but here it is in the Wall Street Journal as officials have just netted the largest seizure ever of counterfeit goods, $240 million in total of fake Rolex watches, Coach handbags, Nike shoes, pirate DVDs, fake pharmaceutical products. This was a 30-city sweep and they took in a quarter of a billion dollars worth of fake goods. So how does this apply to... and of course this is exactly what this bill is for, but here it is, and I did not know this. In the past, terrorist groups such as Hezbollah

1:35:47 According to Federal Bureau of Investigation Mr. Morton, Hezbollah has tried to use the sale of counterfeit goods as a way to finance terrorism. So these guys who are selling fake Rolexes are financing terrorism. It's just as lucrative for criminals to deal in coach handbags as other illicit goods. And by the way, a coach handbag? No one wants a fake coach handbag. That's not a real brand. Who wants a coach handbag in the first place? No, exactly. Now, inside information about the energy markets. A lot of interesting things happening with Gitmo Nation Red is my new term for Russia.

CHAPTER 23 / 29 Discussion

Gazprom, Ukraine Port Deal, European Energy Cabal

Russia secures a deal to keep its naval base in the Ukrainian port of Sevastopol in exchange for a 30% discount on natural gas from Gazprom. The hosts discuss the formation of a "Moscow International Oil Club" and the strategic use of pipelines to hold Europe hostage through energy dependence.

gazprom· ukraine· russia· natural gas· black sea· energy security

1:36:35 Of course we all saw the the outrage in Ukraine which we've talked about extensively on this show for a number of reasons particularly about the political fight going on between Yushchenko and Shikashenko I'm paraphrasing the names One side is pro-america pro-nato the other side pro-russia. So the pro-russia guy he basically won and And he says, you know what? We should let those Russians have our port in the Black Sea. And everyone goes nuts. Yeah, this was not a good thing to do. They're throwing eggs in Parliament. They're beating each other. It looked like one of those Japanese videos. No, actually Taiwan, the Taiwan Parliament. Oh, Taiwan, sorry. And it was amazing. I'm like, wow. So this is, they're really, really angry. So, you know, what is going on here? And then I want to get into

1:37:28 into the energy cabal that is on its way is Poland of course, we were big friends of Ukraine and Poland wanted those ships out of the port there. So they took out the Polish president, that was the easy one. Then they overturned this closing of the Russian base. So the Russians are going to be there. And what do they get in return? 30% discount on their gas which comes from Gazprom and that's a good deal it's a great deal but this is the new currency so here we go there was a secret meeting in Europe and I have meeting notes from this meeting

1:38:18 It includes, this is the international cabal, the Moscow International Oil Club, MIOC, Midland Energy Company, Halliburton Oil, Gunvor, ARA, German Winterschall, British Petroleum, British Gas, Total, Statoil, and Gaste de France is also is also getting on board with this. So the idea is they're putting together kind of an IMF if you will of primarily natural gas and the Russians which have now expanded and you know about the pipeline we talked about this extensively the pipeline going bypassing Poland going straight from Russia straight from Gazprom into Germany from Germany moved into Rotterdam the Netherlands. The

1:39:05 They're going to hold people hostage, which is exactly what was predicted for Europe. They're going to hold Europe mainly hostage. Oh, you want some gas? Well, you got to play along. So they are going to be the new Uber lords by holding everybody's natural gas. And if you play along with the program, like let us have some ships in your port, we'll give you a discount. We'll give you a break. So apparently, Oh, by the way, one other thing, and this is from the meeting notes, let me read verbatim. So they have to manipulate, it's all about money of course, they have to manipulate the price of natural gas.

CHAPTER 24 / 29 Discussion

Deepwater Horizon, Natural Gas Price Manipulation

A theory is proposed that the Deepwater Horizon oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico was a deliberate act by an energy cabal to manipulate prices. The hosts suggest that the cost of environmental cleanup is weighed against the massive profits generated by jacking up the spot market price for natural gas.

deepwater horizon· gulf of mexico· natural gas· oil rig· price rigging· energy markets

1:39:48 And we just had a natural disaster off the coast of Louisiana, is that correct? The oil rig? Yeah, oil rig disappeared. Disappeared. I'm going to tell you that that is a part of this cabal who are going to be blowing stuff up and getting and just getting rid of it to jack up the price. And in this meeting, there was said in regards to a certain Caribbean offshore oil terminal quote, if we if if it need to be we can arrange for this implementation the main factor is the cleanup cost is less than expected so it's time to jump on it now. So these guys have done the numbers and if you create a natural disaster and you have to clean it up

1:40:37 It's profitable because the price of energy goes up high enough for them to make more money. And what they're going to be doing is they're going to be shipping all of this Russian gas oil, the raw material, into Rotterdam and other places in northwestern Europe, going to put it onto big barges and float them around Until it's time to be sold on the spot market. So from this meeting we get the following and you could bet on it I guess I wouldn't but They're going to have a stable price, but then in about nine months boom, they're doing the same thing We saw last year you're gonna see four or five dollars

1:41:22 gallon gas prices, but this is gonna be natural gas which is what is necessary for people to heat their homes. It's a huge resource. They're going to blow up the price. It's gonna go sky-high in about nine months from now. Okay, make a note on the clip. I think you're right. Some says natural gas is... everyone thinks it's artificially depressed anyway, so when it does go up, no one's gonna bitch about it because they're gonna... because I swear to you that right over the last two years I've been doing and talking to Horowitz enough, that's for sure. Everybody says in the markets, in the commodity business, they say, oh, you know, natural gas is sure cheap. It doesn't seem to want to move up. It's way too cheap. It's cheaper than it should be.

1:42:05 and so when it goes up to something double let's say nobody's gonna blink their eyes because all finally got to the price did where it belongs and so some something screwy about the natural gas and I would say be on the lookout for some kind of a rigging disaster and whoever by the way and whoever invests in this because of what we just said send us a bill we we need some money on the deal we need a piece piece of the action so be in on the lookout for Caribbean offshore oil terminal disaster. If that happens you should be sending us your life savings. I've been working on this story for six weeks with one of our producers who's on the inside, who of course I can't name. I have to I really have to protect him or her and

1:43:01 This is the kind of stuff when you get to a certain level with this type of program you get real inside information And I'm I'm really happy this is happening because now you see how it works Now you see how it's all put together, and they do not care. They will they will burn an oil rig They will they will blow it up just for just for their own personal financial benefit and And we're not talking about, you know, peanuts here. That's, you know, people say, wow, why? People would never do that. Well, I think for a billion dollars, some people might. Yeah. Oh, it's going to be more than a billion. I want to play a little clip that's kind of changes the topic unless you want to stay on this. No, I'm done.

CHAPTER 25 / 29 Discussion

Social Security Obligations, Jack Cashill, Medicare

Author Jack Cashill discusses the unfunded obligations of Social Security and Medicare. He suggests that by the year 2030, recipients may only receive 76 cents for every dollar promised, leading to a discussion about the impact of the aging baby boomer generation on the system.

social security· jack cashill· medicare· unfunded obligations· baby boomers

1:43:40 uh... you know we last week we've been to people wrote in about that divorce commentary that was done by jack cashill who is the author of copes and bankers that we ran at the end of the last uh... week show he also made a very interesting uh... but another remark which is a lot shorter so i we could play during the show that i do we didn't run last week i want to run it this week it's on the that clips to segment and it's under this word social security cash or had something very interesting to say about the social security system uh... would you comment on uh... the unfunded obligations of social security and medicare uh... you know it's not a conscious that we got works for social security sides it's over a disease overestimated as we mean he goes uh... we can guarantee that until the year twenty thirty you'll be able to at least get seventy six cents back on your dollar fifty percent as i don't think i was part of my contract to seven six is back in the lower that's where we're at that's what'll happen

1:44:33 That'll be the compromise. There's not enough money, but they've already figured that out. This is the first time I'd heard that, and it intrigued me because we thought all along this is another Roosevelt idea of Social Security that we would have whatever we put in, we'd have it, but we're not. So don't count on it. Count on three quarters of it though. Hey John, you're screwed! I'm screwed. I'm actually getting into this system before the real screw job takes place. It's my wife who's screwed. My wife always says, you know, you were baby boomers. You're going to take the whole system with you. You're going to get the airplane discount and then they're going to start ratcheting up the age when the airlines say, hey, we're giving away too many discounts to these old farts. You know, let's change it to 70. Then they'll change it to 75 and then they'll drop it. That's what you get for marrying a young chick.

CHAPTER 26 / 29 Discussion

Adderall Promotion, 60 Minutes, Provigil Patent

The hosts critique a 60 Minutes segment that they characterize as a promotion for Adderall and Provigil. They note that Provigil's patent is set to expire in two years, suggesting the media coverage is a coordinated PR effort to maximize sales before the drug goes generic.

adderall· provigil· 60 minutes· pharmaceuticals· neuro-enhancers· harvard

1:45:24 So another one I've got here on the list there was an interesting piece of propaganda that was run on the 60-minute show this last Sunday Oh, and I have seen stuff. Sorry. Well, I'm sorry. That was something else. No, what do you have the incredible Adderall clip? But let me tell you gives you some background on this and then my deconstruction of what I thought was going on. First of all, they're promoting the use of prescription drugs, which we've talked about before. They do that all the time. As opposed to old-fashioned. When I was a kid, the students who would like to get juiced up before finals or had to get a paper, they would find benzadrine or they'd get some, they were prescription too, but they were all illegal. I mean, dexedrine, these kinds of straight-up amphetamines.

1:46:08 But now, of course, it turns out that the kids in this generation are using Adderall and Ritalin to concentrate more and do their studies. And so this interesting play came up on 60 Minutes and they basically promoted, believe me, this is a promotion of Adderall. Because all these kids seem so normal and they're all on it and you know they are normal and but they also slipped in which cracked me up. out of the blue they slipped in a commercial essentially for provigil which we've talked about on this show before and and made it seem like the most sensible thing because the air force encourages its pilots to be wasted on provigil and i wanted and after we play the part about provigil if you want to play more this clip you can it's a long clip but this is the most the weirdest thing i've ever seen on 60 minutes and if i ever felt that i needed it i would you know

1:47:10 go and get help for that. I mean, I've never felt like I need Adderall. What do you guys think? Do you think that kids will be able to just stop cold turkey after they get that diploma? I think it's yet to be seen. I think we're kind of the first guinea pig generation that's grown up with this. Brandon Adams started taking Adderall in college. Now 31, he teaches economics at Harvard. A lot of attention has been given to undergraduates taking these drugs, but what about People like professors. I think it's extremely common. It's extremely common and in all of the professions from what I've seen He admits he recently finished writing a book with the help of Adderall there. I would probably average twice a week. So

1:47:55 So you take one in the morning when you really had to focus on writing and you'd be able to have a very productive day? Yes. Adam says other drugs are also being used as neuro-enhancers. One he's tried is Provigil, first developed to treat the symptoms of the rare sleep disorder narcolepsy. People found that it was helpful as a stimulant for working in law offices and in academics and stuff like this. I would say it's in the past five to ten years that it's become popular as a performance enhancer. Last year alone there were more than two million provisional prescriptions filled. Some for truck drivers on long hauls and doctors working around the clock. The Air Force has even approved provisional for fighter pilots on extended combat missions. And as scientists continue to better understand how the mind works, it's likely we'll soon see new more potent drugs.

1:48:51 that can be used to boost your brain power. What do you think of the notion of in the future these kinds of drugs being perfectly acceptable and in fact encouraged so that we can maximize our potential in terms of our intelligence? Break me low. That's a big moral question I think about how you want to alter your mind and That's kind of what Adderall is, I guess. It's how do you feel about it morally? And I think our general consensus is we're, most people are okay with it. Alright, so let's take a look at a couple of little things in here that took place. First of all, the classic, this drug, how does this drug, you know, let's do a follow-up story that's not really a follow-up story. Here's someone who used Adderall, he got through college with it, and now he is a Harvard professor who writes books. Yes! So this is like, positive reinforcement.

1:49:52 Positive reinforcement, whoa, I can be a Harvard professor too. Positive reinforcement for using Adderall. Then they brought in the ProVigil commercial, which I thought was kind of odd, but then I realized there's something else going on with ProVigil, and I can assure you that there will be, in two years, there will be a article or stories on 60 Minutes, and there's obviously some drug company behind this, some public relations agency behind pushing this crap, Helen Knowlton perhaps. They will, uh, there will be stories about pro-vigil disasters, uh, fighter pilots that did this and turns out they were on pro-vigil. This and that and now blah blah blah. Pro-vigil's patent expires in two years.

1:50:31 Oh, so they gotta push it now. They gotta pump it out there now. Still good. They're gonna have a... They apparently are already messing with the molecule and they're going to make another version of it in two years. Well, they have it. The new version is called New Vigil. Oh, okay. And if you go to thewakeupsquad.com Yeah, yeah. Go to it right now. There's a... You may actually, John, suffer from SWD. Shift Work Disorder. Well that's funny because I actually did shift work for two years and it turns out that you don't get, it's not really a disorder but what you get is you are essentially immune to jet lag for the rest of your life. Well listen to this, some professions that may put workers at risk for SWD which is a new one to look out for, security guard, con chairs, foreign markets trader,

CHAPTER 27 / 29 Discussion

Shift Work Disorder, NuVigil, Wake Up Squad

The pharmaceutical industry is identified as creating "Shift Work Disorder" (SWD) to market the drug NuVigil to various professions, including security guards and IT administrators. The website thewakeupsquad.com is cited as a primary marketing tool for this new medical condition.

nuvigil· shift work disorder· wake up squad· pharmaceuticals· jet lag· marketing

1:49:52 Positive reinforcement, whoa, I can be a Harvard professor too. Positive reinforcement for using Adderall. Then they brought in the ProVigil commercial, which I thought was kind of odd, but then I realized there's something else going on with ProVigil, and I can assure you that there will be, in two years, there will be a article or stories on 60 Minutes, and there's obviously some drug company behind this, some public relations agency behind pushing this crap, Helen Knowlton perhaps. They will, uh, there will be stories about pro-vigil disasters, uh, fighter pilots that did this and turns out they were on pro-vigil. This and that and now blah blah blah. Pro-vigil's patent expires in two years.

1:50:31 Oh, so they gotta push it now. They gotta pump it out there now. Still good. They're gonna have a... They apparently are already messing with the molecule and they're going to make another version of it in two years. Well, they have it. The new version is called New Vigil. Oh, okay. And if you go to thewakeupsquad.com Yeah, yeah. Go to it right now. There's a... You may actually, John, suffer from SWD. Shift Work Disorder. Well that's funny because I actually did shift work for two years and it turns out that you don't get, it's not really a disorder but what you get is you are essentially immune to jet lag for the rest of your life. Well listen to this, some professions that may put workers at risk for SWD which is a new one to look out for, security guard, con chairs, foreign markets trader,

1:51:26 Wall Street's on this shit. IT network administrator. Hello, sysadmins. Power plant worker, production supervisor. Ooh, my favorite, radio DJ, firefighter, doorman, dispatcher, registered nurse, chef, accountant, night auditor, IT support manager, customer service representative, overnight package handler, TV producer, factory worker, and convenience store clerk. So, although they don't promote it specifically on the wakeupsquad.com, NuvaJill, and they've got a great picture of what looks like a Southwest Airlines employee with his little light beacons up there and he's smiling and underneath it says, rediscover wakefulness. It is unbelievable the drugs they are pushing on you. Hey, you know what? Let's go back to heroin. It's better.

1:52:21 This stuff is, and it's like narcolepsy, improving wakefulness and narcolepsy and that... Oh, we, okay, well this is be our, this is be, we're not going to be able to do this today, but we're going to research this operation. We're going to see who has the URLs. I mean, what the deal is, who's behind it. It's going to be one of the drug companies. take much to figure this out but anyway so what they're gonna do is they're gonna promote provisional as much as they can for the short term to get as much money out of it uh... provisional uh... is expensive is a dollar appeal they can make a lot of money with two million prescriptions would probably be at least you know they'd probably prescribe thirty i mean you're talking about probably close to a billion dollars and then of course now they're gonna kill it because once it goes generic nobody can use it because it won't be any good anymore

CHAPTER 28 / 29 Discussion

Low Testosterone, Low T Quiz, Oxytocin Study

A marketing campaign for "Low T" (low testosterone) is discussed, featuring the website isitlowt.com. The hosts take the online quiz and discuss the potential for a generation of "roided up" baby boomers, while also mentioning a study on how oxytocin injections make men more emotionally sensitive.

low t· testosterone· oxytocin· isitlowt.com· hormone replacement· anabolic steroids

1:53:04 right and so then i have this new vigil and that's just the whole thing that this was a propaganda piece that was extremely well structured and i watched it with just shaking my head the whole time and you know adderall's good go get a prescription for that if you doctor will do that and then so then i run into this other one which i by the way this is going to be another big trend uh... and there's this weather just sneaking up on us this is not nothing that's that really overt Go to the clip It says I think I gotta go back and see if it's a drug ad prelude. No. Yeah drug ad prelude listen to this clip Millions of men 45 and older just don't feel like they used to are you one of them? Remember when you had more energy for 18 holes with your buddies?

1:53:49 More passion for the one you love. More fun with your family and friends. Could be an easily treatable condition called low T. Don't look it up. Stop living in the shadows. You've got a life to live. So don't blame it on aging. Go to isitlowt.com to find out more. Okay, I didn't look it up, but I'm gonna say low testosterone. Yeah. And may I just shift right into all listed under vaccines. There's a study, here you go, scientists have discovered, this is from a German news source, that when they inject men with oxytocin, which is a female hormone, it's the same hormone that is released when women are breastfeeding or dispensing breast, divorcing breast milk,

1:54:47 Um... That, uh... Men become nice! We had to use that. Yeah, men become nice! They show... That must be what McCain's on. Listen to this. So they gave the test group some oxytocin and then they show the subjects a series of emotionally charged pictures such as a weeping child, a girl hugging a cat, and a man grieving. The men then had to say to what extent they identified with the people in the pictures and guess what? They were really identifying with the... Oh, the little kiddies freaked out. If I can then just continue to say that there is a new pill, it costs 25 pounds, but it'll be well worth it John. It's called Prilogy and it will end premature ejaculation.

1:55:39 Take it one to three hours before sex. It can increase your staying power threefold. That's terrible. So let's go back to the tea thing here. The testosterone has been... Low tea. People need to know this. All the older guys need to listen to this. Testosterone has been synthesized... and they sell it you can buy it you can get a prescription from your doctor you can find some with hormone replacement therapy theories and you can get you buy this stuff generally speaking the insurance companies won't cover it but it's like extremely expensive I mean we're talking about those those provisional pills are you know ten bucks a pop or no to ten bucks a pop provisional is not did I say a dollar

1:56:18 You said a dollar but you meant ten bucks, right? Ten dollars a pill from the drug companies. I mean this is the same as, to me this is the same as the guy on the street. Yeah, of course. The JIP. But anyway, so the testosterone stuff is really expensive. I mean, we're talking, you're not gonna, it's gonna, it's $500 for, you know, A couple weeks worth. It's unbelievable. Hold on a second. They're gonna push the crap out of this. Is it lowt.com is the website you want to go to? Hello. You recognize me? Yes. I'm a shadow of who you used to be before low testosterone or low T started slowing you down. Take a look around to learn about the medical condition known as low T and ways to treat- It's a medical condition. And hey, I'm happy you're here. Okay.

1:57:10 I'm telling you I'm predicting this right now and I don't know we get far enough. Well, John, we can take the quiz to see if you have low teeth. I probably do. Let's go over that. Let's I want to take the quiz with you. I take it. Okay. Do you have a decrease in libido? The libido? No libido. Libido for sure whatever it is. Yes, okay. Do you have a lack of energy? Yeah, yeah. Do you have a decrease in strength or endurance? Yes, you get older you get weak. Have you lost height? Not yet The guy's a midget have you noticed a decrease in your enjoyment of life? Yeah, absolutely Especially since I started doing this show next are you sad and or grumpy all the time are your erections less strong? Well, I'm not gonna say but no, okay. Have you noticed a recent deterioration in your ability to play sports? Yeah

1:58:13 Are you falling asleep after dinner? My 30 foot jumper, I can't hit it anymore. Are you falling asleep after dinner? I try to. Has there been a recent deterioration in your work performance? I'll answer that, yes. Finish consider getting tested for low T if you answered yes to questions one or seven at least three other of the other questions Almost all of them, so I'm gonna get this stuff, and I'm gonna get pumped up on roids now And I have a button to print your results John. I'm printing them for you. I need to get roids I do I'm gonna go on shrinking

1:58:54 So here anyway besides a silly quiz here's what I'm predicting because of the baby boomers being who they are They're gonna be there's gonna be a run on this and you're gonna end up with a bunch of 60 year old men and older By the way, this is an as a anabolic steroid. Yeah, of course it is So you're gonna have a bunch of roided up older guys roaming around it's gonna be Hilarious. Oh wow I'm gonna get me some of that man. I'll be bouncing off the wall. I love it. Alright so we got to wrap up the show. A couple of things that we did. I'm gonna, there's stuff I could really have to keep for for Sunday's show. So here's the things we're gonna talk about because we were of course right about our presidents being drugged. Laura Bush says she thinks they were drugged.

CHAPTER 29 / 29 Discussion

Laura Bush Memoirs, Global Strike Glider, Goldman Sachs

The show concludes with a preview of upcoming topics, including Laura Bush's claim that she and the President were drugged in Germany, the loss of a secret Global Strike Glider from Vandenberg Air Force Base, and the "theater" of the Goldman Sachs congressional hearings.

laura bush· goldman sachs· climate gate· csi effect· vandenberg afb· financial reform

1:59:49 I have my friend... Oh, I didn't get that one. Oh, you didn't hear that? No, Laura Bush thought that she and the president were drugged? Yeah, in Germany when they were at some delegation. Oh yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, it's in her memoirs. Oh cool. Yeah, so we'll talk about that. We'll see if we can get some clips. My friend Michelle Harper, the nightclub owner, Gitmo Nation East, on like a Sunday morning he had a, he built an annex to his house and they said it was one meter too wide. They came in, they tore it down while he was in his house. And it was a big news story in Gitmo Nation East.

2:00:31 Then of course we have the secret Global Strike Glider that was launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base, which they lost. Yeah, we need to talk about that. So I'm doing that. Confirmation and affirmation on something you alerted our listeners to the CSI effect of how shows like CSI are tainting the jury pool. There's now some scientific tests that have been done and confirm this. And then there's a lot of climate gate stuff that we definitely have to talk about. Yeah, I have a bunch of that too. I got some climate gates. But we're just out of time, John. If we could do this full-time, we could do more. We could probably do this show 24-7. Well, we could do it every day almost. The material writes itself. It does. No, Hill and Knowlton writes it for us. Yeah, all we have to do is read what they're doing. We know what... Talk about trend. You want to spot trends? See what Hill and Knowlton's up to.

2:01:35 So we'll do all of that on Sunday also. There's just so much stuff. It just doesn't stop. And the Goldman thing. If you want to be entertained, watch the congressional hearings. That is theater, my friends. That is theater. I'm reading as much information as I can about the financial reform bill, which of course is a huge bailout. Goldman Sachs are sending their guys there and they're all laughing because when this bill gets passed, they will be trillionaires. And with that, I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Southern California, known as the People's Republic. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And in the morning up here in Northern Silicon Valley where it's sunny again. It was raining the other day. I don't know what's going on. I'm John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you for early morning service on Sunday right here on No Agenda.