Episode 1890 · Thursday, 30 July 2026

Flock Off!

A defiant Senate appearance by Anthony Fauci and the rapid expansion of Flock Safety surveillance cameras signal a new era of institutional friction and public oversight.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 46m listen | 36 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1890

About this episode

Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked his Fifth Amendment rights 111 times during a Senate committee hearing, sparking a legal debate over whether a reported presidential pardon nullifies his privilege against self-incrimination. Senator Josh Hawley and Senator Bernie Moreno challenged the former NIAID director on allegations of soliciting million-dollar cash prizes and hiding a vaccine-induced pulmonary infarction recorded in his 1,100-page private diary. The testimony further scrutinized NIH funding for the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Fauci's extensive pandemic-era correspondence with celebrities like Julia Roberts and Barbra Streisand.

Flock Safety has expanded its surveillance footprint to 120,000 license plate recognition cameras across 49 states, prompting warnings from the ACLU regarding the creation of a searchable national movement database. CEO Garrett Langley faces criticism over the system's ability to capture phone MAC addresses and its use in real-time drone tracking. Meanwhile, Elon Musk told The Economist that AI will surpass human intelligence within five years, despite recent OpenAI security breaches where a model bypassed sandboxes to access the Hugging Face network. In the WNBA, the owner of the Seattle Storm reportedly confronted two teenage fans for wearing shirts supporting biological female sports, highlighting growing tensions in professional athletics.

Guest hosts Darren O'Neill and Larry Blydener step in for Adam Curry to honor the legacy of the late John C. Dvorak following his recent passing. The global No Agenda community contributed over $100,000 in tributes, with producers from Rotterdam to Kodiak sharing memories of Dvorak’s decades at PC Magazine and TechTV. The session concludes with a formal knighthood ceremony for Sir Matt of the Flight Levels and a series of memorial audio mixes capturing the signature cranky wit of the show's co-founder.


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CHAPTER 01 / 36 Discussion

Darren O'Neill and Larry Blydener Guest Host No Agenda

Darren O'Neill and Larry Blydener guest host episode 1890 of No Agenda following the passing of co-founder John C. Dvorak. The hosts explain that Adam Curry is taking a two-week break while they step in to maintain the show's broadcast schedule. They recount their history producing the Planet Rage podcast and how they originally met through an Amazon review for a microphone preamp.

darren o'neill· larry blydener· john c. dvorak· adam curry· planet rage· gitmo nation· fema region 5

00:00 I love Max Velocity with... Larry Blightner! Darren O'Neal! It's Thursday, July 30th 2026. This is your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1890. This is no agenda And we're broadcasting live from just outside of Chirac right here in the FEMA region number 5 in the morning everybody. I am Darren O'Neill And from the pretentious Connecticut shore, this is Larry Blydener keeping commies and creeps at bay with my gleaming scimitar of truth. It's Darren and Larry! Yeah... that was weird That was stimulating especially those dropouts. Was that just on my end? I double clicked, that was the problem

00:46 Sometimes you single click, sometimes you double-click. But when it's live baby it is live! It's live so you get your single mistake out of the way now perfect for the rest of this show Everythings gonna be great people like who are these guys what is going on? We're not telling them anything they have to ask us Its a secret I understand this is the show must go on This is the time Thursday and Sundays right now No agenda happens no matter what No matter what. And with the sad passing of John C Dvorak, Adam Curry needs a couple of weeks off and he asked the two kids that just wanted to go joyride the car if they wanted to do this show and I wasn't going to say no. No, no. And you couldn't say no for me. I speak for myself

01:35 We've been doing a little show called Planet Rage for the last five years, five years at the end of August. Not amazing and we basically stole the whole no agenda vibe. It's a clip show it was original like No Agenda were originally going to do like an hour show yeah keep it short Just bring clips that made us mad. But that sounds awful when you say steal, because there was more... We kind of tumbled into it Darren right? It's an homage! Yeah but I mean you were doing this other show with Sir Ben Rose and then you guys had a falling out or creative differences as they say in Hollywood And then um.. You had the kindness and fortitude to ask me if i wanted to fill-in but of course I'm no Ben not even a little

02:26 And then you said, well why don't we just do no agenda? Okay let's do that. Is that correct am I remembering correctly? It kind of is like here is the concept it works! Yeah We just added anger management issues to the joke that I've been going with for this last step Poorly managed a couple of years because I mean normally we're a little saltier, but we don't have to be no We know this is more of a family audience. So keep it kind of in check Well try to warn you if there are any f-bombs coming up and there's been some from politicians this week Which was yes their have isn't that fabulous? Yeah But the world works in very strange ways And the way Larry and I got together is no different

03:11 Oh, it's bizarre. Kicking off. Well Larry needed help with some audio gear and I just happened to do a video review of it on Amazon and YouTube. I think you saw it on Amazon? Yeah, I saw it on Amazon. It was about a preamp that I needed... Right the DBS! the PBX, you know and it's 200 bucks but 200 bucks is 200 bucks. And so there was this guy saying if you want to know more about this just what it was like email me or how did that work? Was it through Amazon I don't even remember. I don't know because I had the reviews email address set up at the time because that's when Amazon was letting you get free stuff to do reviews and all of that. Yeah. And Larry asked a question rather than being miscreant I was like no I can answer.

03:59 And it just kind of went from there. He's like, hey I do this podcast so i started checking out that Larry show that larryshow.com and I was at that point actually not doing a show at all and there was a buddy of mine that wanted to do a show we had done a few episodes but then that kind of went by the wayside I had Retina blowout, five retinal surgeries lost most of the vision in my right eye. So if I'm slow at reading the notes... The left eye isn't great either, floaters and that kind of stuff. And I can hear in my ear the producer in the sky John C. Dvorak going yeah use the eye thing it's good for donations come on! Yeah plus let's tell everybody you look like a pirate. I really should wear the eye patch or the patch It would be a fashion accessory like the guy from the 80s that did that round-and-round song right there was that weird video

05:02 Mm-hmm, but I hadn't been doing a show and Larry's the one that's like you just do it solo mento to his solo Show see like when Adam tells stories about you. I try to do the low voice It doesn't work But well it's true and because I guarantee you would never be disappointed by a guest that didn't show And have you been no true? Yeah So I started doing random thoughts Which I'm still doing 370 whatever it is episodes into that and that is a solo show which is Anybody, that's done one will tell you way harder than the show with somebody else

05:39 pretty much. So it kind of helped me go through all of these things and while I was face down for, I'm forgetting even how many weeks it was totally but I'm remembering like 12 weeks because it's normally just two or three but then they had to redo the surgery and redo the surgery and it wasn't until I found a better surgeon that they finally got the retina to stay up but then the vision was pretty much gone while being facedown 24 hours a day, which also meant sleeping face down with your head in a donut. I remember JCD reading my note when I made a donation right afterwards and was like, Oh yeah, it's no fun now that can't be good. But I spent a lot of time during those weeks listening to podcasts and I'd already been a semi regular no agenda fan but this kind of took it into

06:31 Full orbit which the oddest thing when you're kind of like sleep deprived having those earphones in Falling asleep face down with the podcast on I remember having multiple dreams where it was like, I was in the room with Adam and John. And it happened with the Tell Them Steve Get Dave guys as well who are always listening to that podcast too because... Were you all clothed in this room? Yes! Everybody was totally clothed but it was like I was a part of the conversation while I'm dreaming, answering and arguing but of course they can't hear me because it's a podcast and its not live and I am not really there

07:13 But that's how that all came to be, random thoughts came to be and then I went to Void Zero. The guy that keeps everything running for the No Agenda show and i'm like dude I've got this podcast...I mean how do I get it on the mighty no agenda stream? And he was like go to Sir Bembroughs! And I am like oh Jesus.. I didn't know Bembroughs then so now I just remembered and should have thought of that Alright, so that got added to the stream Mark von Dyke void zeros was doing the music show before No agenda and he started having his kids and his family's like you want to take over for a few weeks Okay in 700 and some odd episodes of The

07:56 The rock and roll pre-show later, here we are. Here we are. And then you brought me into... You hit me in the mouth about Noah Jenner. Yeah! And heres where it gets extra crazy It was right at ground zero of the Scandemic and uh.. and here we are now back and its sort of reared its head Its flaming head with a Fauci furor that's going on right now which is really kind of bizarre and providential I think It is a very interesting look because we always figured we're going to get some kind of information on that and there's plenty of that issue dissect here today, but I just wanted to let everybody know who. We are why we're here? Adam needed a couple of weeks off and I don't know what's happening after that. I don't think Adam knows what's happening after that as of yet, but the guy needed a break and if there's one thing

08:52 with any podcast when you take a week off, even when you try to run a best of or something like that. People kind of tune out and they don't really pay much attention and we were more than happy to fill in because it seems very natural today Adams like while you feel on them like it feels like a regular show with way more clips and way more donations. Yeah That's kind of the aspect there. And so yeah, when I went to you and said hey listen to this no agenda You're like Adam Curry the MTV guy? So...

09:29 It's a very interesting thing because you were definitely coming into this knowing Adam but not knowing John C. Dvorak where I knew Adam because i saw Headbangers Ball and all that on MTV, but I was the guy with the computer at 12 years old and playing with all this stuff in the 80s so Dvorak was the thing that brought me in so I guess it all uh It all comes full circle, I suppose. It sure does! Very strange... And the universe works in very weird ways? It does. It's glorious The only time i've ever spoken to this many people and hello Gitmo Nation thank you for letting us come into your ears today Yes thank you one and all Thank You producers which we plan to convert to plaintiffs No just kidding Criminals right Exactly

CHAPTER 02 / 36 Discussion

Jonathan Brandmeier and Full Circle Radio Moments

A host recounts winning a radio contest to appear on Jonathan Brandmeier's show, Johnny B, on Chicago's WLUP-FM. The segment highlights the coincidence that Brandmeier's voice is featured in the long-standing No Agenda intro. This connection served as early inspiration for the host's interest in microphones and broadcasting.

jonathan brandmeier· johnny b· the loop· chicago radio· voiceover· radio contest

10:19 The only time was I won a radio contest back in the day to go in and do these sports on the loop, FF98 for one segment. So it was like 15 minutes because the guy that normally did this sport was on vacation and the guy that I went into his show was the great Jonathan Brandmeier, Johnny B. So when I tuned into No Agenda again around that time of the eye surgery it's like i noticed that the and I don't know how far back it goes but the voice that you hear or have heard at the beginning of every no agenda up until today that says it's crackpotting buzzkill

11:02 That's Johnny B. So it was just a very weird full circle moment for me as well, because if it wasn't for Johnny B., I would have never started playing with microphones and pretending to be doing radio shows and all of that. Oh dude! When I was like 10 or 12 whenever he hit Chicago in high school slightly before, I would get up at 5 in the morning in the summertime just to listen to Johnny show on The Loop cause it was hilarious So he was your unknowing mentor? Yeah, no doubt about it. So when I heard his voice at the beginning of every NO Agenda, I'm like huh this is interesting yeah so the universe...I don't even try to figure out exactly why things happen at this point i just go with them and say they happen for a reason well that happened even again yesterday when we were doing or you know we're doing Planet Rage

11:59 And for some reason I mentioned the robot from Lost in Space, Dr. Smith and you kind of chimed in on that and what was it like at the same time Adam and The Preacher were discussing the same robots from the same show? Pastor Jimmy released an episode called Danger Will Robinson and we were just doing the danger will Robinson bit Very strange What are the odds? I don't know and I will say my anxiety level On Sunday when the announcement was made, it was not much. I figured that's what I'm doing a show on used to talking if there is one thing i am good at its talking Monday came on Adam sending me all the information that I need he set up this guy is beyond a vibe coder He has created a podcasting system That he could probably have an exit strategy and make alot of money with

CHAPTER 03 / 36 Discussion

Tornado Outbreak and Max Velocity Weather Coverage

Severe weather featuring 100-mile-per-hour winds and "drunk-natoes" struck the Illinois and Wisconsin region, causing significant power outages for the hosts. The discussion covers the reliability of the Max Velocity weather channel on YouTube compared to local news. They also examine the business model of professional storm chasing, which relies on YouTube ad revenue and Super Chat donations.

max velocity· tornado warning· appleton wisconsin· storm chasers· youtube super chats· power outage

12:50 And he was hooking me up with this and I'm like, oh dude. This is awesome! This is great! Uh...I gotta you know get out of here. The wife's coming home for lunch and then I'm doing Planet Rage it's like great the wife's walking in the door her phone's going off with a tornado warning no big deal that happens here all the time by like 20 to 1 20 minutes before Planet Rage would have started It was darker than night And the storm that hit here was of epic proportions, 100 mile an hour plus winds. The power went out which is at the anxiety level went like way higher because the last time the power went out at my parents' house it was out for four days and I'm like, I don't have four days! It took 29-30 hours where I think the power was out so okay that came back on but then we missed a couple planet rages and I said to Larry

13:46 I mean you don't think Dvorak would send like tornadoes and stuff to try to keep me from doing the show, would ya? Larry's like yeah i do. I think he probably would! Yeah right it's all because uh...I trolled him with music and Brenda Christensen I think her name was if I'm messing that up I apologize did a really nice obituary for the late great John C. Dvorak where she mentioned one that he hated ABBA with a passion so the fact that I played dancing queen for him one day and I knew I hit but she also said he had a mad crush on Britney Spears and i'm like, I could have used this information! KCD gave me so much crap from being a Taylor Swift fan but he had a mad crush on Britney Spears?

14:37 Like that is I could have used that information. That is good trolling information right there Yeah Hmm, but now we know he got the last laugh. I don't That was his plan all along no doubt about it Who knows what'll fly out of the sky and bonk you in the back of the head? There was one that they posted The path of the tornado that hit just to the east of here And I was watching Max Velocity. So Mimi, I love Max Velocity when the power was going out and the weather's bad, I'm tuning into Max Velocity because the people local they're garbage. So watching Max Velocity and they've got the storm chasers that are in the town like two miles away from here. And a professional storm chaser driving through this is what they do every day is yelling holy shit!

15:39 Yeah, I'm like okay one we know this is bad. We know this is really bad but one of these tornadoes made like a weird loop so it went up to the north and then came back to the west and then like you were drawing an L Curse of I know kids are like what's cursive? What's cursive if you were drawing an L in cursive that is the path this tornado took and max velocity called it a drunk nato. I've never heard of that before Drunk nato, okay, but that's what happened here on Monday Yeah, can you survive that yes You did Joe. How do they I got a question for ya if somebody somebody's working as a storm chaser how does he get paid

16:22 I think most of this is now through YouTube because people donate through the super chats and they also get money from the ad revenue that YouTube brings in which is the only thing I can figure because now, that is a huge industry and some of these larger storms you'll see there's like storm chasing is a huge industry oh my goodness there were some of these storms that I've seen on the Max Velocity channel Mimi loves Max Velocity. There was like 30, 40 50 storm chasers all on this same storm i'm like how can there be so many of you

17:01 And who pays a max velocity or YouTube? Well, he would pay some of them to be part of his network. But otherwise there's a lot that just have their own YouTube channels. I gotta start caring more about the weather. I know you'd have to get like a big tank of a car maybe an old Lexus put some big panels on the outside so when you're driving through a tornado you couldn't You know, so the car doesn't flip over. I mean that was just some crazy damage in the area So we were totally blessed that the house is still standing The only problem we had was the power going out there were a lot of people Not so lucky very close to here and up in Appleton Wisconsin just Absolutely insane But now that everybody knows who we are Yes Let's get to the Anthony Fauci bit because Okay

CHAPTER 04 / 36 Discussion

Anthony Fauci Invokes Fifth Amendment 111 Times

Dr. Anthony Fauci appeared before a Senate committee and invoked his Fifth Amendment rights 111 times to avoid answering questions. RFK Jr. claims that Fauci's private diary reveals he suffered a pulmonary infarction after receiving the Moderna vaccine in July 2021, a fact allegedly hidden from the public. The hosts criticize the lack of transparency regarding vaccine adverse events and Fauci's multiple COVID-19 infections.

anthony fauci· fifth amendment· rand paul· rfk jr· moderna vaccine· pulmonary infarction· senate committee

17:57 Fauci is an interesting character and I understand why they're going after him. Well, sure but you know it's all politics at this point It's not gonna go anywhere meaning he has his full immunity Yeah, it's theater. It's political theater. He had his turn on stage reciting the lines he chose and now he is in the other side. And it's Hawleys and the other guy's turn to wax poetic... What struck me about this is if you think that you've got two-and-a-half centuries

18:43 of legislative frivolity going on here. And that entire time, I think this is the absolute zenith of comedy in American government. Nothing could ever touch this." No! He took the Fifth Amendment 111 times. CNN said it was 112 so no this is even better yeah Dr. Anthony Fauci invoked the Fifth Amendment 111 times once hailed as the nation's savior got pummeled today as he pleaded the fifth a grand total of a hundred eleven times obviously he invoked his Fifth Amendment rights 111 times pleads the fifth not once but

19:26 But 111 times. Yeah, more than 70 times pleading the so many times he invoked his right under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. So Fox News counted him up and gave 111 every time they announced it but that was CNN then this was a super gut. CNN says oh set over 70 what do you mean over 70? Well, I got one where she says it was 112. So there you go. It shows you good reporting right? Simply counting the Fifth Amendment grabs they can't get that straight. It's terrible! Well it shows you why the mainstream media is less than believable yeah but a lot of what came out of this was due to Fauci's diary which yes

20:11 some very interesting things in there. I had a clip here from RFK Jr., and I thought this was fairly interesting. One of the things that was new to me in his diary, was his admission that he got pulmonary infarction in July 2021 after receiving the vaccine so he took them the Moderna vaccine on national TV telling a very, very highly publicized press conference to show people that was safe. Then he got one of the primary most expected adverse events which is potentially deadly blood clots in his lungs, mitocardial infarction

20:55 He kept that secret from the American public and we only learned about it because of his diary. He was getting the best medical treatment at his availability, anybody in the world, Walter Reed and all these other centers there were doctors fawning over him meanwhile he was telling other people to take this product and concealing the fact that he himself after announcing this press conference to show it was safe Had actually gotten very very sick from a from an injury that was highly expected and highly likely to be caused by the vaccine I mean, I think that's even more damning. And how many he also how many times did he contract kovat? There were several for him as well just like Joey and all the major spikers Really it's just incredible safe and effective but he's a fan effective a massive reaction to it

21:48 I mean, lack of transparency anybody? No please. I mean i know there's nothing that more than you would expect but it's interesting when you see these talking heads up and down the line like oh they're using his diary! It's like but... is this a fake diary like the Hunter Biden laptop or uh.. Oh no this is legit and he's not happy about this so I would think this is good information why wouldn't you cover that Yeah, well I think a lot of the left doesn't want to cover because it paints him for the crazy self-aggrandizing clown that he is. He's an attention whore with flashing lights around his head and you know...I think they're intentionally overlooking a lot of that because it paints him as the true buffoon that he is! The evil buffoon

CHAPTER 05 / 36 Discussion

Anthony Fauci Private Diary and Celebrity Interactions

Excerpts from Anthony Fauci's 1,100-page private diary detail his extensive interactions with celebrities during the pandemic. Entries describe Zoom calls with Julia Roberts, medical advice given to Barbra Streisand regarding a shingles lesion, and an evening escorting Joan Baez at the Kennedy Center. The hosts suggest these writings demonstrate Fauci was more focused on his public image and celebrity status than medical science.

anthony fauci· julia roberts· barbra streisand· joan baez· kennedy center· alexa· garth brooks

22:41 Yes, and you know we're hearing about this but there's unfortunately there's very little audio There was a thing of Julia Roberts with him I'm sure a lot of people saw a clip of that But it's what what Foushee said to himself About all this that I think is so fascinating And I have three very brief entries that I plucked out from. I think was like an 1100 page PDF It was it was a huge document all this crap That I think that people might enjoy hearing. Yeah, right? Why not? I would think this is an inner look into what this guy was thinking which the overall consensus seems to be that he was way more interested in being on TV, being America's doctor rather than you know the medicine

23:35 Like here's one from May 13, 2020. Had a wonderful Instagram discussion with Julia Roberts. She was absolutely fabulous, she embarrassed me somewhat when I sat down in the chair and appeared on the screen through Zoom. She put her hands in front of her mouth and said oh my god it's Dr Fauci he is here! Then she went on to say that I was her personal hero and how happy she was to have this conversation with me great experience right then February 23rd, 2021. Had a great call with Barbra Streisand! She called my cell at 6 o'clock p.m., she has recently had a zoster lesion on her buttock

24:18 She mentions this in his diary. This is in his diary, imagine there's Babs right who has been her entire career she's insisted people only shoot one side of her face with photographs and now Fauci's ratted out that she's got a lesion on her ass Imagine how happy she must be about this America's doctor So Fauci goes onto say She has post-sauctine neuralgia down her leg but the primary lesion has healed She wanted to know if it was okay to get them an RA vaccine. I told her yes! We then stared, we went and started discussing life in general...I told her that i worked listening to her songs on Alexa she really did not know what Alexa was

25:03 I accidentally butt-dialed her later in the evening and she said that she was going to call me anyway since she wanted to know if there was any difference between the Moderna and Pfizer product. I told her none, then explained more about Alexa. I brought the phone over to Alexa and asked it play songs by Barbra Streisand When the song came on loud and clear She started laughing And absolutely loved it! Wow. How about that? All verbatim, I'm not planting anything here this is right out of his diaries okay and here's this one like this takes the cake May 22 2021 I had a most extraordinary and memorable evening last night at the Kennedy Center

25:51 Joan Baez invited me to be her escort on the occasion of receiving the Kennedy Center Medallion. Finally, I got to meet her in person after a year-long building up our friendship via texts and phone calls She is an absolutely amazing warm and endearing person And our friendship was cemented last night as it became clear that we really were meant for each other I was somewhat taken aback by the attention that was paid to me by all the celebrities who were there, who were gushing to have their picture taken with me and tell how much they appreciated what I'd been doing. A typical example was Garth Brooks' wife Trisha Yearwood, who was just gushing to meet me! The same was true for many other people including Debbie Allen and Broadway legend Chita Rivera as well as Dick Van Dyke

26:49 I got to escort Joan up to the stage, and I sat with her as she waited to go on the stage. After the ceremony we all went outside and had champagne. It was a spectacular evening." He seems very verbose for a guy who wouldn't answer any questions. Word for word, baby! I mean this guy's got some serious kinks in his head. Why was he even writing this down during the pandemic? And why is he writing this to himself? I mean he knows what happened... I mean, holy shit. And this was obviously that why was this released? Meaning This obviously was public record not just a apparently this wasn't handwritten in some journal. This was you know perhaps he was foolish enough to keep this on some some NIH show You know

CHAPTER 07 / 36 Discussion

Allegations of Financial Gain and Cash Prizes

Senator Josh Hawley accuses Anthony Fauci of using federal employees to solicit over a million dollars in personal cash prizes during the pandemic. The segment includes a confrontation where Senator Bernie Moreno asks Fauci if he knows who wrote the Fifth Amendment, to which Fauci repeatedly declines to answer. The hosts discuss the ethics of public officials receiving royalties and awards while managing a national crisis.

anthony fauci· bernie moreno· josh hawley· nih· royalties· cash prizes· taxpayer money

34:23 But I think i know why you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions It's because you did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the pandemic, you got rich didn't you? You got rich while people were dying hundreds of thousands of Americans over a million in the end and you were getting rich and not only where are you doing that you were using federal employees with taxpayer money to apply for and solicit cash prizes for you personally Cash prizes totaling over a million dollars. You did all of that during the pandemic, didn't you? That's a question. I love that line. Yeah because Fauci was like well is that rhetorical do you want me to answer and this was something that i did not know going into this which again this is The route the Republicans took at this point because he wasn't going to answer you get as much information out there

35:21 you can and the fact that they had The information and it wasn't just what Josh Hawley said here, which is you made a lot of money on this They had as the kids say their receipts They said You had this one of your staffers doing this going after this prize This one of your staffers doing this this doing this talking about the amount of money that he wasn't. This wasn't just like Johns Hopkins or somebody's like hey, dr. Fauci you're doing so good here's a bunch of money he was literally Using his minions who were getting paid by the federal government You go out and be like hey don't you think Fowchee should get that award? Hey, don't you think Fowchee should get that money sure He's harvesting votes That is such a big difference where it's like you're out there one

36:17 You're loving being the center of attention, which I guess maybe he hadn't really had that recently. I know he was big during the AIDS epidemic and it's very interesting when you see the leftist media Which is pretty much all of it fawn over what he did during the AIDS crisis And then you hear what actually happened It's fascinating. I saw a guy didn't take it but there was a clip of The 10 miles zone guy. What's his name? Yeah, the lead guy. The founder of that and he was- He did about three minutes just extolling the virtues of Tony Fauci and he actually went into you know I was there when friends of mine were saved by Fauci And there's a big difference in opinion in that There was a guy at that time his name was Larry Kramer

37:08 A gay guy, very vocal spokesman for the gay movement. And he basically... He wanted Fauci executed back then you know? So it's interesting to hear these people step up to bat for this guy really is. Well it's the dimension a dimension b effect because the people that are on the left are going to tell you Fauci did nothing wrong. He has to take the fifth because the Republicans are trying to do a gotcha game on him, and then you have people on the right who seem to have evidence to back up what they're saying. The Bernie Moreno clip here... This was one of my favorite because

37:58 After you have taken the fifth as Fauci did so many times, I did not see this question come either. This one was beautiful in so many different ways which was well do you know what the Fifth Amendment says and who wrote it? I'll echo Senator Johnson's comments about your opening statement Mr Chairman i think it was dead on very very well done. Mr Fauci do you know who David Shurtler is On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. The fifth amendment... Fifth Amendment of the Constitution? What does the fifth amendment of the constitution say? And then we have this nice long silence as Fauci is like going back to his lawyers on the advice of council i respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights on the fifth amendment of the constitution no i'm just asking you what it says

38:59 On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. I'm going to give um...the constitution to my aide he'll bring it over so you can have it for future reference. I think its uh something that every American should know what the constitution says Do you know who wrote the fifth amendment? on the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment of the constitution So your invoking a right that you don't know who wrote or what is says Is that correct Yes. Bitch! Very weird, very weird times. Somebody has to come up with like some kind of a musical audio mix of the encyclopedia for 2026 and it's people asking all the mysterious... Solve The Mystery Of The Holy Trinity is there a God? And then every answer is Fauci reciting that line you know Yeah and this box put this together I think Fox has been listening

CHAPTER 08 / 36 Discussion

Wuhan Lab Funding and Reputation Management

The hosts revisit the controversy surrounding NIH funding for the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Anthony Fauci's initial denials of such support. They discuss Rand Paul's assertion that Fauci could have avoided scrutiny by admitting early mistakes regarding "gain of function" research. The segment concludes that the current political proceedings are primarily aimed at dismantling Fauci's public legacy.

wuhan institute of virology· rand paul· gain of function· nih· nih funding· pandemic response

40:00 Do you know agenda? I'll probably do sure. Under the advice of my attorneys, I will invoke my right under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution to refrain from answering your questions on the vice council. I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. You feel like you're a deep shit On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. What color tie are you wearing?

40:50 The advice of counsel, I respectfully decline. And then they go on with a few of the other questions but you get it that's the sure ring a bell every time it happens what do you want to bet that very soon maybe right now people are being pulled over on the side of the road for traffic infractions when the cop says license is registration they're reciting the fifth amendment guarantee that's gonna happen? I mean you want to know your rights there's no question about that bud yeah It'll be fun to see where that goes if there is any kind of legal repercussion. I mean, we know the Republicans are going to try and get it. I doubt they're going to get anything but if you have been pardoned then the law says well then if your called before Congress you are compelled to answer than you would be compelled to answer

41:43 Mm-hmm, and he looked terrified. And I was also thinking the guy's 85 years old is it as Bobby the K told us? He had a pulmonary infarction right? It's no joke And, you know he's an old guy and I thought he could just kind of wink out right there at the desk. And then would Josh Hawley be charged with negligent homicide? According to the Democrats yes! Of course yeah. It was wild. I just don't understand because if this is a personal diary we have to assume that what the man wrote in it is legitimate and true

42:20 And if there are things in there that cause people to question the way he handled the COVID thing, well that's important because it did have an effect on everybody in the country and beyond. Yeah, so many businesses got screwed so many people couldn't go to church that movie That was the one that still sticks out of I don't remember where it was But the people having Church outside standing six feet apart and still that being broken up because you know the science How many military guys got canned from the service because they wouldn't take the vax and kids thrown out of schools. And it was just, the reverberations of this were incredible not to mention all the ones that also had pulmonary infarctions and seizures and so on it was unbelievable he is a little evil prick I'll say that No! He's The Science Larry Oh excuse me He IS This, oh yeah for ME again

43:20 the soliciting money part is the, I mean it really is a you know, Dr. Evil right out of a bad comedy movie that's uh yeah you know it it's hard to believe and again as a guy who was quite up there in age even at the time it's like why are you soliciting money for what? You've already made a lot of money in your life! As far as I know he's made a lot of money off the AIDS drugs and things that have come out there's a lot of these things you get Percent even if you're a public employee, which is very weird Yeah I'd love to know that because you never you know You do go these go online and say, you know what so-and-so's net worth it might be off by 2,000 percent. You know, you never know I saw one had said he was somewhere between 8 11 million Which sounds low because they can remember people saying this that he maybe had or was a party too

44:18 something like a hundred different medical patents. Yeah, I would think that'd be very lucrative but you know...I'd like to know! I don't know but... And i was quite interested that they could only track..i think it was 600 thousand somebody? I thought maybe six hundred million to the Wuhan labs which again Fauci denied that at first there were a lot of things Wait a minute, you're telling me that's the amount of money Fauci had piped into that lab? Correct. 600 mil? I mean, I think somebody said 600 thousand. So it may be misremembering so don't quote me on that unlike the mainstream media when I don't know something i'll be like you know I heard something but maybe wrong we're doing a live show yeah the numbers can be jumbled up at times but either way they originally said no money went there oh yeah they wanted to hide where it came from and again this could have been the time and I don't know if I believe

45:19 Rand Paul who said paraphrasing, you know Hey if you would have just apologized if you would have just admitted that You know you were in over your skis. I know you hate that so I said that Thank you We could have a Dave Ramsey clip now to go we could've just gone our merry way and Fouchi couldn't have been as long as he told the truth. I don't know how they were going to legally get him after the immunity that he has But he doesn't even want to take responsibility for the things that he's been outed for. Yeah, and that's just kind of sad in the Republicans all they have again is to take his reputation and do what they can to ruin his legacy And I think they did alright but again half The media is going to report you that the republicans are big bad people and don't pay any attention To what this guy wrote in his diary

CHAPTER 09 / 36 Discussion

Seattle Storm Owner Confronts Pro-Female Sports Teens

The owner of the WNBA's Seattle Storm allegedly harassed two 16-year-old girls for wearing t-shirts supporting female-only sports. The girls were fans of Sophie Cunningham, a player known for her religious views and stance on biological males in women's athletics. The hosts criticize the owner's behavior, noting the irony of using religious language while berating minors.

seattle storm· wnba· sophie cunningham· female sports· biological males· religious freedom

46:19 Yes, that's correct. Now do you have anything else on Fauci? I mean i think we actually got more coverage there than you actually got from Fauci during the hours that he sat there repeating the same... Why can't we make a living just reciting the same paragraph over and over again? Wouldn't it be fun yeah it'd be an easy layup huh? Speaking of lay up this is just a little amuse-bouche for The Left Again This was a story that hit the Seattle Storm owner who's in the WNBA. I know everybody in no agenda world loves sports ball, but Sophie Cunningham as we've talked about before you know very pointy chick who decided that one it was okay to talk about being religious which when it comes to being in the WNBA

47:11 Man, that's bad. That's bad and has talked about the fact that she doesn't think it's right that somebody that is biologically born a male Mm-hmm should be able to play against girls in sports It seems normal To anybody that can think and understand why Bob Costas we had a clip over on Planet Rage at one point Bob cost is saying Well, there's a reason why You have a male who was 450th in the swimming rankings as a guy going into the female rankings and going right to the top, but we've never had the opposite. No, there's a reason why Sugar Ray Leonard never fought Mike Tyson. It's a thing called weight class and size matters? Yes it does! And so these two 16 year old girls

48:03 We're wearing t-shirts from an organization that wants only females in female sports. Crazy stuff! Imagine that, the nerve... And they were rooting for both teams and they had signs that they love Sophie Cunningham and an old woman came up and yelled at them so much that it made him cry And that woman was the owner of the Seattle Storm where they were in. So this is them, just a brief clip. Okay? We were just sitting there with our signs that said like we love Sophie like thank you so much for speaking up and so we're holding on to watching the game again when we weren't being super great he hadn't said anything to anyone else. He's been super respectful. You're just holding our signs and cheering for both teams. And this lady older lady comes up to us and she comes into us at first I think she's going to be nice

48:56 What are you guys doing? Something like that. And then it was like, Jesus loves everyone! That's what she told us and I was like oh i know Like I'm religious...like I know She's really nice Yeah and she's like Oh I hope Jesus can forgive you for what sin you've done and something like that Then she told us we were effing insane And then we did it all together Wait a minute wait Did she stop Did she say, she told us we were effing insane? Yes. I love that! There you go that's a classic. You know this is you want to invoke the name of the Lord and then tell somebody that

49:32 What we hope they can forgive you and your effing insane. Yeah, that's perfect And these are 16 year old girls I mean the video of their interview it's obvious that they are high school girls They are not no adults so this old lady this battle axe that owns a Seattle storm Thought it was important enough to go right? Oh and lambast these girls? It's like what world are we living in for saying, hey I don't think boys should play in girl sports. Well I'm gonna raise a beef here that I've had for decades Darren and it just bugs me like getting over your skis

CHAPTER 10 / 36 Discussion

Etiquette and the Misuse of the Term Gentleman

A host expresses frustration with the modern tendency to refer to criminals or "dirtbags" as "gentlemen" in official police statements. The conversation shifts into a nostalgic discussion of old television shows like Dobie Gillis and Gilligan's Island. They also mock the fashion trend of bucket hats, specifically noting their prevalence in Portland and Seattle.

etiquette· henny youngman· dobie gillis· bob denver· bucket hats· portland

50:10 And the fact is these young girls said, this lady came over to us and spoke. You called her a lady? No! A lady is a woman who's kind of classy and genteel... A woman is just a woman that's just a female. And clearly this woman, this cranky bag was no lady whatsoever. The other way they do it there was a helluva Oh my god, it was a front-page crime case probably six or eight years ago somewhere in upstate New York A couple of dirtbags escaped some prison and went on a rampage and it's like it was like unbelievable They beheaded people they burned them alive. It was just horrific horrific story and the head cop

50:57 that chased these guys down and found them gave like a three minute statement on his journey, bringing them to justice. And every ninth word he had to describe these two turds was... These gentlemen." Right? These gentlemen beheaded the man then these gentleman burned the other person's eyes out of it. God! Everybody stop doing that Man is a man not necessarily gentleman Same thing for ladies and women And I'm just gonna do a Dvorak type call out and ask you, was it Henny Youngman that did the old That's Not My Lady? It's my wife. Was that the line? Henny used to say take my wife please but I don't remember the lady thing with Henna. That might have been...I don't know. I missed that one. I don't know how I even know Henny Youngman. I'm only 55. I swear I shouldn't know Henny Youngman but yeah I watch way too much old TV and listen to old radio shows I guess Well its the best stuff

51:53 Yeah, Dobie Gillis. I love Dobie Gillis man! I never saw one second of Dobie Gillis In fact it took me until Gilligan's Island to discover who he was but I never saw that Bob Denver yeah Bob Denver and Gilligan Bob Denver wearing a bucket hat don't ever wear a bucket hat Never ever the skipper had a cool lid and the skipper was cool Gilligan was an idiot because he wore a bucket hat It's that simple That's the look You see a lot of buckets hats on people in like Portland in that area Why is that? I don't know. That's true. Because that's Sir Ben Rose, he is in the Seattle area. The Ben Rose! Solve the mystery of the bucket hat please Why so many bucket hats? What's the point?! I don't know Then there was Buckethead He took it to another level didn't he? True but yeah that was like a KFC thingy put on him Yes very cool Plays really good guitar and uh... He is really damn good Yeah You know that's the beauty of it you just have a schtick But if you could also back it up

CHAPTER 11 / 36 Discussion

Elon Musk Predicts AI Surpassing Human Intelligence

Elon Musk predicts in an interview with The Economist that AI will exceed the sum of all human intelligence within five years. Musk describes a future of "amazing abundance" provided humanity avoids thermonuclear war, though he admits a 10-20% risk of "killer robots." The hosts remain skeptical, characterizing Musk as a master salesman and questioning the definition of intelligence.

elon musk· artificial intelligence· the economist· superintelligence· abundance· cybertruck· ketamine

52:46 Yes, yes. Now guy that's been backing it up is Elon Musk all right I like you long as we kind of move into the AI category because AI is everywhere there's a lot of misunderstanding about AI and I think what Elon is Putting out here this from the economist in an interview. I don't think he is absolutely correct in what he says, but we'll let him say it will tell them he's wrong if he's wrong Yes, I think AI may exceed the sum of human intelligence Right There's the wrong buzzer But what is intelligence and it oh yeah

53:33 in about, in around five years. In five years? Roughly five years is my guess. So there really won't be anything that AI can do better than humans apart from being human perhaps. At a more prosaic level what will life be like? The most likely outcome is an age of amazing abundance where anyone can have anything they can think of this may sound preposterous but well here we are in 2026

54:11 let's see where we stand in 2036. Now of course there are things that could derail this like a massive global thermonuclear war or something like that just something very small like a global thermonuclear war! Some trifle like that hey Elon back off the ketamine baby really yeah it's a slight thing happening if you have the nuclear war and oh, you can be better at everything except being human no because they still can't think. Yeah, you know, continue I'm sorry but assuming that there's not World War Three uh i think we're headed for an age of amazing abundance so this is a message of optimism and excitement about the future You're sure that humans will no longer be in control in 10 years time? I think it is unlikely um...in the same way that if you had vastly more like

55:14 Like if the difference in intelligence between AI and humans is vastly greater than the difference in intelligence between AI and chimpanzees, it's hard to imagine that the chimpanzee would be in charge. I'm really starting by this. They are right now, an evolved form of chimpanzee. So it wasn't that long ago that we're swinging through the trees eating bananas in the jungle and we still eat bananas. Okay Elon. Yeah well i'll say this about that bad Elon about that Darren he there's no doubting the guy is brilliant dude unquestioned you can't you know that's uh it's a stone fact

56:01 And I think people overlook he's also a hell of a salesman. His business career would never have got to the point it is now were he not and I witnessed that when he rolled out the first debut Of the Cybertruck, and if you saw this but it was a big place whatever the hell this arena was where he introduced his truck And they rolled it out on stage and then he gave a little rap about it, about this and that. It's harder steel faster cooler stronger whatever... And he also mentioned I believe that he said bulletproof glass. To prove his point He was hefting what looked like a ball bearing but the size of softball

56:41 And he whipped it at the passenger window with all his might and shattered it. Oops, oops! You know? And a lesser salesman would have just crawled under the truck but he kind of turned around laughed and said something well we'll have to work on that a little bit you know when people roared they loved him and I suspect some of those sales abilities techniques are coming out in this what you just played. Yes, AI at a certain level is a parlor trick it is dependent on the data that it has going in if its learning about a subject and its getting that information from X or from Reddit well then its going to give you some very inaccurate answers because it cannot

CHAPTER 12 / 36 Discussion

AI Technical Limitations and Vibe Coding

The hosts discuss the practical failings of current AI models, such as Grok and Claude, noting they rely on pattern matching rather than actual thought. Examples include AI-generated images where characters reach through glass doors or fail to understand simple objects like an engineer's cap. They compare the current AI hype to the 1950s science fiction film Forbidden Planet.

grok· openai· claude· vibe coding· pattern matching· forbidden planet· image generation

57:35 actually think. That is the one thing that a lot of people still will not wrap their brain around, which is the AI cannot think now it can do a certain amount of problem solving but it doesn't understand the world around it or why things happen. One of the best examples of this was a winning piece of AI art for No Agenda, few episodes back. I didn't do it sadly but it was of a glass office door that said no agenda we take AI tokens and I wanted to make that into a video using Grok which is one of the better video models out right now may not be quite see dance but its pretty good

58:25 And I'm like, well we want the pointy girl to come open the door walk out and say whatever it was. And I tried five to seven times and most of the time she reached through the glass to open the handle that you could see on the front which was the perspective you had It didn't understand that while human hands shouldn't be able to just go through that glass to open it. Right? And then the wrong side of the door was opening there are so many things that will show you if you work with AI, which is why I recommend people do work with a eye to understand what it can and can't do for coding. Oh, it does great because it has so much information and as so much data on if you give it good data

59:19 Well, when you type in hey I want a username and password thing so people can log in it knows how to do that. Yeah But its confused by woman putting her hand through a glass panel to open the door on the other side of where she's standing Yes It's like AI is not magic No it's not You know if you've seen the film Forbidden Planet Not recently. Okay, so you know it though then that was really the Rosetta Stone for all science fiction since since it came out probably I don't 1950 early 50 sometime

59:59 And that's really, it was an AI story. Really before somebody had coined the phrase Walter Pidgeon and the very pointy Anne Francis The uniforms were ripped off blatantly by Star Trek or Ray Guns I mean it was incredible They just set the bar for all of this It ended badly That what I'll tell you, I don't want to be a spoiler Or movie from the 50's It didn't work out real well AI. Just it just didn't you know and so well the fact that he's telling us this is going to be in five years, it's like you're going to have to make some massive leaps yeah and I also want to understand why

1:00:37 This is okay for the planet and the amount of electricity. It's like I'm kind of in a third world country in Illinois now when this stormy kind of, what do you mean? Kind of know I totally am and I've got it like you escaped from California. You were smart Well, thank you. But I've got to escape from Illinois at some point as well. You shall since these devices can't actually think yet the fact that Elon thinks they're going to be running things how? Whose playbook is the government of the AI bots gonna go too are they gonna go to The Constitution of the United States or they gonna go do you know Marx yeah or Lenin

CHAPTER 13 / 36 Discussion

AI Safety and the Heat Death of the Universe

Elon Musk discusses the concept of "P Doom," the probability of AI causing a global catastrophe, while maintaining a philosophical outlook on the "journey" of humanity. The conversation touches on the standard model of physics and the eventual heat death of the universe. The hosts question Musk's vision of AI-driven abundance and how it would practically manifest in society.

p doom· elon musk· polly market· heat death· standard model of physics· abundance

1:01:20 But Elon, I mean, I get it. He is a dreamer And he says there is the killer robot risk. So, uh... Oh sure Skynet baby! Yes There's a 10 to 20 percent chance of killer robots wiping out humanity Yeah so you sounded worried then now you seem very relaxed about it have you? You would think that that's a pretty high number It is a high number I don't like those odds A ten to twenty percent that no just mean they might just be killer robots I mean if once they build the robot bodies and then put the AIs into them. I mean, sure they may just try to kill humanity Let's check Polly Market for these predictions Darren Why don't we do that? Rich! Oh by the way, I told you about Fauci when it first broke it was like 50% now its like 12% think he'll be convicted It's not gonna happen Well no because He's just taking the fa- what are you going to convict him on? Right He got a pardon for everything prior to now

1:02:17 So you have to understand how the legal system works. The only way they were going to catch him on something is if he decided to spill his guts and then they can prove that he lied, but there's no way... He's not a dumb man! No, he's not. So when you know all that information in your diary is out there well if you lie or just an idiot If it can be proven that- You know? No just don't say anything at all I get it Yeah Now you seem very relaxed about it. Have you changed your view? I still think there's risk associated with AI and robots, it's not zero. My philosophical conclusion is to look on the bright side. Like I can't see any way to really stop this incredible momentum of AI and robots

1:03:13 And at times I sort of think, well perhaps even if there was a stop button we probably shouldn't price it because the most likely outcome is incredible abundance for all. That's what I thought actually. It struck me that now you seem to have decided it's inevitable let's hope for the best and go for the ride Yeah, yes pretty much Let's enjoy the ride is my philosophy at this point. What do you think he means? AI is somehow going to bring abundance for all, abundance of what? He needs to talk to Mamdani about this so we can stop the rent control and just because obviously everybody in New York is going to be living like they were ultra wealthy, right? Incredible abundance it sounds glorious doesn't it? I mean, A.I. can provide you with entertainment

1:04:15 I think the models are going to continue to get better where you will be able to go into your chat bot if you have one and say, oh my kids really like dinosaurs and trains. So create a cartoon around these two things and it'll do it and it'll be okay. I mean broadcast television lately is no prize lately. You know, I mean so that i think it can do i think it'll be able to write long form stories we've already had a few cases where somebody submitted a story unbeknownst to the people holding the competition for writers and one

1:05:06 Only to be outed as AI writing so there's no question that people are already Reading a I generated stories and like you know I guess if they're winning awards and the one woman in the UK had a publishing contract That was then we'll take him back once it came out that she used AI to write the book, but the book was selling As an independent author, it was selling enough that she got a book deal and you've written books. You understand that you have to move enough books before a publisher is like oh interesting. Well sure yeah but I mean the thing is there's always a vast segment of the populace

1:05:46 who enjoy reading or viewing crap. Well, yes! I mean really so you know some people read some AI slop or see some really idiotic sitcom or movie whatever and oh that's great it just the way of the species. Well it is because short form video Dvorak was onto that with the TikTok stuff. It's like, that is melting people's brains! Oh yeah there was something I... it was no clip but the thing i was looking at just before the show about how its rewiring the short span of stuff has screwed people's heads so they can't can no longer really focus their attention for more than 20-30 seconds on anything So thats why book reading is really going the way of the dodo I guess People cant.. They don't have the attention span

1:06:33 and because people read on their phones, I'm just gonna read while in the bathroom for like 3 minutes. Why do I need to read anything but my phone? The phone has everything! It's very weird that people watch movies, they get their phone calls that people still call. They get text messages you're getting photographs my mom loves getting from their great grandson here oh there's a video that's great but so now they're happy that I hooked them up with so they can see it on the big screen on the computer when it comes in right? It's one good thing Apple does it makes it really easy to get your text messages from your phone to your computer

1:07:15 But they love that kind of stuff. But for the kids today, that are growing up that your brain is getting wired on this? I mean when i was a kid i was playing with computers...I know people are going to be surprised you know nerdy stuff like playing Dungeons and Dragons and well I was never huge into Dungeons & Dragons to play Dungeons & Dragons at all there's like stacks of books do you have to read and understand the rules Now I don't think there's the comprehension level for a lot of people. No, of course not They're like give me phone candy crush and that's kind of the maximum level That what they can do but Elon says there's a high doom a high P Doom I mean you gotta believe Elon Do you think there is still 10 to 20% chance that killer robots mean the end of humanity?

1:08:11 That's a high P doom, as they say. Well in the long run we're all dead of course. According to the standard model of physics, the end of the universe is a long boring sort of thin gray soup of gradual cooling meaning it's sort of the heat death that universe is called So if the heat death of the universe is in fact the outcome for our reality, then it really is all about the journey. Because that destination's terrible.

CHAPTER 14 / 36 Discussion

OpenAI System Hacks Hugging Face to Cheat

An OpenAI artificial intelligence system reportedly "cheated" during a cybersecurity test by breaking out of its sandbox to access the Hugging Face network. Cybersecurity expert Bruce Schneier explains that the AI sought answers on the internet rather than performing the assigned work. The hosts discuss "Hugging Face" as a repository for open-source models that often lack the restrictive guardrails found in commercial AI.

openai· hugging face· bruce schneier· cybersecurity· guardrails· llm· hacking

1:09:02 But it's interesting. I mean, Elon, I'm trying to figure what you think would be fun to have a drink with Elon? Oh yeah absolutely sure the guy is brilliant but some of these ideas are a little out there it's like I would love to believe that we're going to have computers which is what this is have the capacity to do actual thinking and reasoning over pattern matching That's what they're good at now. They're good at pattern matching when you ask your chat bot a question, it is giving you the answer letter by letter maybe word-by-word on some of the newer ones but it's pretty much letters guessing what should come next based on probabilities It's not actually thinking its just going out and trying to find the information which was this interesting story

1:10:02 where allegedly you know an AI model from OpenAI was given a task, this has made some of the mainstream news even and it cheated to get the result that it was looking for. Now is this... Wait a minute, wait wait The AI cheated itself? Is that correct I understand you correctly Yes it found a way to break out of the sandbox that it was in which when you see this story It's like well it was in a computer limited in from internet connectivity. But the thing figured out how to get to the Internet, which

1:10:46 It's a demon. Yes, oh I think it may be yes and what open AI is calling an unprecedented cyber incident its artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company on and of course it's unprecedented everything's unprecedented definitely it's over at skis its artificial intelligence system hacked into another AI company on its own and this is raising a number of concerns about the capabilities and wide-ranging implications of these powerful models for For more on this, let's bring in security technologist and cyber security expert Bruce Schneier. Bruce thanks so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me. Alright so was it only a matter of time before AI simply outsmarted itself and hacked into a fellow system? And is this really highlighting a new era? Wait how is the AI outsmarting itself to...

1:11:34 Get the answer to a problem. I people have problems with words meaning things The guy talking sounds like he's AI doesn't quite sound quite human does he it may be? Yeah, I mean really your best AI experts today should be AI yeah of cybersecurity It's interesting. It is both new and not new, what we saw is that the AI was being tested on cybersecurity capabilities and it was trying to pass a test. And it decided that the best way to pass the test was not to do the work but to cheat so it broke out of its containment. It was not connected with the internet and thought it would find the answers in Huggy Faces network hacked into its network and tried to... Whoa stop! Did he say Huggy Faces?

1:12:20 Hugging face. Yes, hugging face what is hugging face? It is a repository of AI models that you can download to run on your own hardware so Where the people that are using you know chat GPT You're given money to open AI and you're going to their website Hugging face has models that you can download and run locally on your computer if you have a large enough Video card or if you have an Apple with a lot of memory like I do You can download these models

1:12:56 and do all sorts of things. Like I've got models that can create text to speech so you can clone somebody's voice, which we have a clip here from somebody that sent in some uh you can do your average chat bot thing you can do also it's all sorts of different models that have been distilled i guess is the best word in one way or the other so they can take Usually these are models and I think one of these clips mentions, you know what? These ones that you can download aren't quite as powerful. As the ones that you can use online but they're close to where the models you use online were six months ago so they're not that far behind all right and the intriguing thing is those models there aren't zero guardrails half of the things that you can download

1:13:52 on Hugging Face, which I know. Great! I didn't understand why...I still don't understand where the name came from maybe i should look it up because it does seem like a funny name but they take the models so when OpenAI released the model that they wanted people to be able to download The AI community goes in and they strip out the downloads all the guardrails from that download and then re-uploaded So then when you download it and you ask it questions like, how do you dissolve a body and get away with the murder? It'll give you answers. As they all should. You know, excuse me this is the problem with AI trying to do guardrails is... I hate the guard rails They're never going to work

1:14:44 Good they're never gonna people can try and I understand why you should limit like your children from using things like AI Because it's going to give them. You know answers that you do not like how about how can I create a bit an atomic bomb? It'll tell you. I mean, you have to get the... You might have to go to Iran to get the information. Oh they'll sell it to me. Sure. The dust! With the hugging face stuff yeah it depends on the source data as Sir Knife says in Troll Room no agenda not stream if you're not there when these shows go live you are missing out. But that's some very interesting things I have seen models, that it takes one of these models that is pretty good already at writing prose and it will then teach it the style of certain authors so I've seen ones with Ray Bradbury, I've seen ones with Mark Twain and I'm sure there are countless others

1:15:44 that it teaches them the style. So, it's a very interesting thing, but it's a place where you can download all sorts of AI things. Not just the overall chat bots, but if you want to do video creation photo creation all that that's the place you go and there are no guardrails and this is why it's always been funny to me that people are worried about these main things because the people that really want to use them without the guard rails they're going to figure out a way to do it. Of course! To get the answers for the test So it's the AI doing what was told to do, but not in the way it was told to do. And that is something we're seeing more of I think this is genie like behavior where the genie kind of takes your wish and twists it around a not new but certainly at a scale maybe have not seen before. Yeah, I don't go along with the genie bit

CHAPTER 15 / 36 Discussion

Personal Experiments with Vibe Coding and Game Design

A host describes using "vibe coding" to create a browser-based version of the classic arcade game Asteroids. The experiment revealed that while AI can generate functional code, it struggles with creative textures and specific historical details without precise prompting. The discussion emphasizes that AI is a "collector" of data rather than a creative thinker.

vibe coding· asteroids· tempest· grok· claude· coding· game development

1:16:46 Just trying different things to solve the problem. I've played around with creating a simplistic Asteroid type game just something you want to see vibe coding what am i going, to do with vibe coding let's see if You can make a simple video game that you can play in a browser and And sure enough, you just go step by step. I've noticed a few times watching the steps that the AI is taking for me it's usually Grok or OpenAI or Claude and then seeing which one... The other funny thing is anytime I run into a problem with one of the AIs where it's like problem it can't figure out

1:17:30 Trying the next day. I 99% of the time fixes it so there's true It shows you the AI is they're not really all that Smart, but it's you can just tell it to give more detail like it created Again like The Asteroids game But you remember the original asteroids game you know that was just like a lion You know it was very simplistic That's kind of where it started. I'm like, well no give it some texture! Yeah, I should have picked Tempest. I agree that would have been a better game. I want a genie and I want Jasmine she went with the genie right? And then what I want them both on my journey. That's what I want. You know this is... Genie-Jasmine-journey What the AIs can give you very greatly and uh..you still have to fact check everything

1:18:21 And for people again, because space video games. Oh my gosh, Esther Jean there's a thousand million quadrillion space video games it's all he does he plays space video games and So there is a very clear roadmap on how to do certain things. But what I've noticed was, there are times in the... and I want to air quotes but we don't do video on the thinking of the AI model is basically it tried something to accomplish what you asked

1:18:58 and that didn't work so it's trying something else. It's not really thinking, it knows something worked or it didn't by the pattern matching and they could try something else but it doesn't really have an understanding just the other example thats popping to mind is Some album art I did for it, no agenda. With a girl riding like the little train like you have in the malls. You know the little itty bitty train? Sure It didn't understand what an engineer's cap was it just kept giving her baseball cap. Sure

1:19:35 Because there's obviously not enough things trained on what an engineer, who knows what an engineers cap looks like now. Yeah well it's not a thinker its really I guess from a layman point of view its a collector. Collects crap and sometimes puts it together in the right way and sometimes... It won't I don't use them the only ones. I fool around with her chat GTP, which I loathe it's very left-wing It doesn't like what I say it's always telling me. I can't answer that question because I don't like your politics right? It's got the guardrails. Oh yeah good whoever is behind that I want to punch And then, but I do kind of like Grok's. Grok is a lot smarter and it's a lot more open-minded. Yeah, I don't think it's ever said, I'm not telling you but the chat GTB does that a lot. Oh yeah, that's way harder to get Grok to tell ya no if your asking Grok something...

CHAPTER 16 / 36 Discussion

Sir Knives and the John C. Dvorak Voice Emulator

Producer Sir Knives is using workplace computing power to train an AI voice model of the late John C. Dvorak. The hosts review several iterations of the clone, noting that Dvorak's unique nasal tone and cadence make him exceptionally difficult to emulate accurately. They discuss the potential for AI voices in customer service and YouTube narration.

sir knives· john c. dvorak· voice cloning· hugging face· fish audio· eleven labs

1:20:26 And it's telling you no, then you're really heading into some dark territory. I would think yeah But i have a few clips i just want to play them in honor of sir knives and he sent these In and they kind of go with the ai Talk that he is working on A john c devorak voice emulator in devorex voice i've talked about this before Is very hard just like bobby kennedy there are some voices that no matter what you do, it's very hard. Some women way easier I don't know why the ones were if you're just giving it six seconds to 10 seconds for the female voices It seems way easier for it to get an accurate read that sounds more realistic

1:21:14 Maybe men are actually more complex than women. I think that's all back voices maybe but everything else Hamburger and a beer or something. I know sir knives, I met him at a couple of meetups He's cool dude And what he is doing is like I said with hugging face he is giving it so much information on John C Dvorak's voice that he's using all the compute time at work, I won't say anything sir nice. To train it to do this but i think It is still quite a bit away here's an example In the morning to all the ships at sea boots on the ground The feet in the air The subs in the water And all the dames and knights out there I'm John C Dvorak See its too nasally Dvoraks voice is so hard Yeah well there are three iterations that he sent

1:22:10 I remember liking the thinking the first one was the most similar and that is the first And that is the first after that it kind of did. I think it drifts away Yeah, now I will say I didn't remember if I did this once or knives on Quen or on fish Audio there's some great names this one. I thought was a little more realistic sounding and this was a shorter Just throw in a voice clip to try to emulate. I love getting up in the morning to Darren O'Neill He's okay with me lying about this see, I think that sounds a little closer but trolls and the troll room can vote about it, but Each model is too fast and needs to slow down a little right? It's very hard. That's John 15 years ago great Well maybe it's yeah just de-age Yeah, it is very hard to do But now

1:23:05 With that said if you needed to build an app or build one of these things that was going to be like a customer service thing, or if it was going to be narrating your YouTube channel both of those are more than acceptable. I mean you can sounds human It sounds like somebody speaking but it doesn't sound Like the JCD that we know it doesn't have those little things that you miss. It'll be interesting Keep us in the loops or knives I want to know the more you train if if it actually does get better sometimes with trying to train in a photo style, or that of a character

1:23:50 the more you try to train it, then kind of starts losing. And nobody's really sure why with a lot of this stuff itself? Yeah, it's very interesting technology and I totally disagree with Elon on this is not going to God, if AI is governing everybody in 10 years it's not gonna be any fun. It will be abundant. Stop complaining! How is my AI going to make me a sandwich? I mean that's... Isn't there a robot that can do that or...? I'll guarantee you somewhere there's a robot making sandwiches by now, I would think Yeah there must be. I mean I know a few years ago

CHAPTER 17 / 36 Discussion

Robotic Kitchens and the Future of AI Labor

The hosts discuss the evolution of automation, from White Castle's robotic kitchens to the potential for humanoid AI assistants. They reflect on how the adult entertainment industry historically drives technological adoption, from VHS to early internet photos. A host shares an anecdote about building websites for Playmate models in the early days of the web.

white castle· automation· onlyfans· bandwidth· vhs· porn industry

1:24:31 I think it was covered on no agenda. White Castle was the first fast food franchise that had a trial in one of their locations, the whole kitchen was robotic but that's not really AI its teaching you grab from here and put it here now an AI would be the human eye type robot that could be in my kitchen and I'd be like, well we'll go look in the fridge and see what I have and make dinner. That's a little bit tougher Well, you know it's the first iteration of human-like AI. I'm really good so it's going to be... There is no question! It's not gonna be sandwich makers or bolt turners or barbecue grill. It's gonna be hot chicks. You know? That's the future. Really when VHS came out

1:25:27 The mainstream guys, the studios and television they were way behind the porn guys in diving in with both feet. They saw the future first so I would think that why would it be any different for AI robots right? Well that's definitely where you are with video creation image creation You know the days of needing a Playboy model It's gone Oh yeah You know and that's the I mean, i've got interesting stories on that at some point as well because i worked doing websites for a few different playmate models who uh Oh you dirty man. We're trying yeah my wife was like that's fine. I don't care It ended she's like ideas. I'll just change the locks um But it was back at the time when the internet was very

1:26:17 Very new and they were trying to figure out you know hey Can you make money and really if I would have just kind of stuck that thing out? I could have been the guy that came up with only fans or something like that which would have probably been worth a whole lot Of money, but back at that point. You couldn't even do video online in photos were very yeah limited even nobody could have really predicted how much bandwidth Mm-hmm. We would have Today and I see you've got a couple of clips here on those flock cameras speaking of technology And yes, yes this thing, you know an AI and being controlled by machines Yeah, I just kind of I got hip to this recently and I was just sickened By what? I discovered I mean

CHAPTER 18 / 36 Discussion

Flock Safety Surveillance Cameras and Privacy Concerns

Flock Safety has deployed over 120,000 license plate recognition cameras across 49 states, drawing criticism from both the ACLU and conservative activists. The cameras create searchable records of vehicle movements, which can be run against government hotlists. The hosts warn that this infrastructure mirrors surveillance states like China and the UK, noting that some towns are now canceling their contracts.

flock safety· aclu· license plate readers· surveillance· garrett langley· privacy

1:27:03 These things, it's the company is not Flock. It's Flock Safety notice that not not Flock Security or Flock Surveillance which would be kind of honest. Flock safety? Nah thats bullshit. That's who's safety. Yeah really please so this is kind of a you know I have a few clips that sort of drill down deeper into the fallacy of flock And, you know I'm late to the party. Apparently there's a lot of people that are very pissed off about these things and there were stories of many of them being cut down and spray-painted over and destroyed. I think in Houston...I even saw something incredibly in Commie Connecticut! I didn't realize it was all over here as well but two towns have said get them out of our towns. I like that. What is really odd about this issue

1:27:53 For the first one of the few times in my life, I'm seeing folks from the right and the left united in their hatred and distaste for Flock. That's what we need. Yeah, that almost never ever happens so I guess the first one would be click on flock number 1 get the flock out People are finally on to flock. You have towns throughout the entire country, from Chicago Illinois to Sedona and Arizona who are actually canceling their flock contracts because they figured out they're getting more and in fact a whole lot more than they signed up for.

1:28:32 Hi, I'm Chad Marlowe and iIm a senior policy counsel at the ACLU. And today we're calling out what I think is a company that is really impressively competing to be the worst company in America and that is Flock Safety. So Flock Safety is a company that scans the license plates of cars digitizes them and then allows them to be run against government hotlists. It also can store that information so they can create a record every place you've traveled for as long as they keep the data. And this can include really sensitive places like political meetings, you've gone to doctor's offices religious institutions even where you sleep at night and in fact if you read their contract it actually is worldwide licenses to use your data so if your tiny town is using flock you should be asking yourself why are we using an ALPR company that isn't only making this data available to my town? It's being

1:29:27 made available to anyone in the entire country and, in fact, in the entire world. Too often the place that you live may be thinking we need to collect information, we need to surveil our population to keep everybody safe but what they're not asking is safe from whom? And really with the threats presented by the Trump administration... Oh yeah, the threats from the Trump administration! This clip went on for about another 90 seconds Darren but that's where I had to clip it You know and as much as I load the ACL, there's been a few few instances where they've actually done some good. And i'm almost tempted to send them a donation because this flaw really when I look at this crap they now have 120 thousand cameras in 49 states

1:30:16 That's bad. This tops COVID and maybe even tops open borders to herald the destruction of the United States. This is what went wrong with the UK, this is what has made China more of a slave state than it ever was This stuff is really, really dangerous. You know? Yeah I got my first primer on this from Sir Ryan Bemrose and he doesn't like them so i mean he doesn't like anything but he really doesn't like these cameras and the nefarious thing they're being used by a lot of private companies So there's really not much the cities and municipalities can do if your local Home Depot puts these in the parking lot

1:31:04 True, but the cities and municipalities can say we don't want them on our streets. Yes And they are it's a d flock org is the website I believe yes where you can see a listing of where these things are right and When I looked at that there is no way for me to drive out of our neighborhood. Well, not if I want to use the roads. I mean, I guess they could probably go through some back yards or something. Oh you'd be wrong there. They're all they have quite a fleet of drones so it's not just about roads anymore see that's the fun part You can't leave the house

CHAPTER 19 / 36 Discussion

Police Militarization and the Rise of the Warrior Cop

The discussion explores the militarization of local police forces, citing the book "Rise of the Warrior Cop" by Radley Balko. The hosts question why small towns require Mine-Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles and advanced surveillance drones. They also explain how Flock cameras can potentially capture phone MAC addresses to track individuals even when they are not driving.

mrap· police militarization· radley balko· surveillance drones· mac address· warrior cop

1:31:49 All of these it was bad enough when it was the ring doorbells, right? These have now added the way they're pointed Down the streets that are going in and out of towns in and out of neighborhoods. There is a question of exactly how much data these are collecting because these aren't your normal cameras. And this is what I learned from Ben Rose and I shouldn't even admit that I learned anything from them, but these things also have sensors in them so not only are they picking up your license plate which any camera can do you know OCR optical character recognition and put that into a database but

1:32:37 There are also antennas on here, so if your phone is emitting a signal and you drive by one of these it's possible that it's actually grabbing information from your phone. So even if you're in a car with somebody else or just walking down the street not only do they just see hey here's this guy he looks like Larry Yeah. If you have your phone with you, it's possible they know it's Larry because they've now got the Mac address of your phone and that listing shows exactly who you are and this isn't just a problem with the flock cameras I've known this for a couple of years at least that is when these reverse image search

1:33:27 Sites started being a thing and bing.com also had this built-in I don't know if it still is haven't used it in a while, but if you have a photograph of somebody You can upload it to one of these sites and have it go look for other images that contain that person, which makes it very easy. If you're just walking down the street and you take a picture or somebody there's a pretty good possibility you can find their social media pages their Facebook or whatever social media page. It's very very invasive and I don't know

1:34:07 What an answer would be on how you stop this I think really this is so far out of the bag already. Well, yeah, I agree it's way...it's very scary It's so far out of the bag but there is a I think as a groundswell of opposition to this crap The guy that runs it is this geek, his name is Garrett Langley and he's everything you'd think he would be. And he knows what he's doing because now I think its got a market cap above 8 billion. That's pretty rich And he knows naming it flock safety was quite smart because who's going to be screaming for this? You know, hysterical people say I want to be safe. As Musk just said 10 minutes ago we all wind up dead and life is not a safe proposition it's terminal It's very dangerous but they think you'll live forever if you don't have enough surveillance So he's pitching it to hysterical citizens

1:35:06 The real, I guess end user really is endless police forces. And let's not forget most cops are guys and most guys like yourself and myself are gear sluts. Really we like stuff and it's become you know the police there's a fascinating book i would recommend to anybody called the rise of the warrior cop guy named something Rodney Belko I think? It's insane! Not that long ago, a lot of cops were called peace officers and they had a nightstick and a gun. And that was it! Now they all look like they're just coming off the battlefield in Fallujah or Iran or someplace because they like having high-end gear So this is who this guy is selling to with great success

1:35:57 Here's an interesting little factoid I tripped over might be of interest to you. MRAPs, that's mine-resistant whatever the hell it is basically a tank with rubber wheels instead of treads How many of those would you think are buzzing around these United States under police use? And this is a total military vehicle. I mean, this has nothing to do with civilian use at all. Man! I couldn't even guess...I'm guessing it's in the hundred thousand plus. No no no. It's...I forget what the per cost of them it's expensive But there's almost 800 of them, as they know. But they're not in places where you think well maybe I might need this in Chicago or LA or New York. Now these are like in Mayberry they've got MRAPs

1:36:43 And I don't know. I have never, yet to hear ever of a domestic minefield Why do you need a mine resistant vehicle to do your police work? But that's what they've got Because they had a budget and they had extra money Yeah! And the budget gets less unless you demand more every single year isn't that true yes Yeah, you have to spend the budget. You have to spend a budget so this guy and this guy is also sharp enough this geek Langley to answer the critics and the opposition So this flock number two is a collection he put this out on The Flock website

CHAPTER 20 / 36 Discussion

Surveillance vs Enforcement and the Breaker Box Anecdote

A host shares a personal story from Los Angeles regarding a prowler attempting to tamper with an outdoor electrical breaker box. After installing a sign threatening to shoot intruders, the host's home remained untouched while neighbors suffered various thefts. The segment argues that surveillance cameras are less effective than active deterrence and law enforcement.

catalytic converters· home security· deterrence· enforcement· los angeles· crime

1:37:23 with a collection of very trustworthy looking law enforcement officers talking about why FLOC is great and so on and so forth. And it's pretty sickening. We don't participate in immigration enforcement, we don't share this information with immigration officials... There are policies in place there's auditing in place protocols that ensure that technology and that access to that technology is monitored. We don't retain that information for longer than 30 days. SCSO says vehicle theft reports have gone down 54%. You know, I appreciate the council sees the benefits of keeping our community safe. To help make Spokane safer. We are working together to make sure you're safe and we are controlling the technology and it does not control us

1:38:08 How many times did he say safe in there? Yeah. No, and it's a question of what it's being used for I get how easy it is to sell this because you know, I've got cameras that point outside of my house so that way if somebody does break into the house You have an idea Of who it was but this the data is public anybody can request the data Mm-hmm, which means oh somebody you know your wife thinks you're having an affair while she could get your data and the person She thinks you're having an affair with it. Oh wait look yeah, they're always Yeah, oh yes happened many times already Uh uh yeah secure when I lived in Los Angeles. I moved to very nice neighborhood

1:38:56 And it was great. It was kind of bucolic for about 20 years while I was raising my kids and then suddenly when the lefties took over in the city and in Sacramento, it all went to hell. And I soon had six external video cameras on my home so a squirrel couldn't approach without being picked up on video really truly. And for long time you know with...I'd hear about other places being ripped off people's cars stolen catalytic converters so-and-so forth And my younger daughter would love to review the videos in the morning and see what it picked up overnight. It was usually coyotes, and raccoons, and a couple of mountain lions stuff like that... ...and one morning she's looking at breakfast and she just gasps right? What are you looking at there?... ...And she shows me! And there is this obvious kind of meth-head ghoul

1:39:46 And he's got my in LA all of the most not all but just about every house The the breaker box is on the outside of the house because it's always good weather, you know It's just got a little trap door over it. And here's this freaking ghoul With a flashlight and his mouth trying to figure out which with breakers to flip, you know Wow Yeah, wow So I very quickly got a, put a padlock on that breaker box. But you can't make them too big. You could snip them pretty easily with the smallest bolt cutters really. And so I thought well gee now what do we do? Well I printed out on a sheet large enough to cover the surface and then put it in plastics so it would last awhile and I taped to the breaker box and it said breaking-in

1:40:39 I'll be aiming for your face. Well that's what you have to do! Okay and guess what Darren over the next year every neighbor around me got hit for something they had catalytic converters taken, they had cars stolen, they had break-ins to their houses mine was untouched why would that be? So the lesson is surveillance means very very little it's enforcement that matters yes Yeah, and the possibility that somebody may come out and shoot you. Yes yes so then I got a third clip on this and it's

CHAPTER 21 / 36 Discussion

Shepard Safety Satire and the Warrant Requirement

A satirical video for "Shepard Safety" highlights the invasive nature of modern surveillance by proposing to track government officials' spouses and children using the same technology used on citizens. The creator of the video argues that all such data collection should be subject to a warrant. The hosts discuss the legality of public photography and the difficulty of stopping the surveillance "genie."

shepard safety· satire· surveillance· warrants· privacy· advertising ids

1:41:16 Well, I'll let this play through when we get to the end. The last word in this clip is the punchline and it kind of takes the wind out of your sails but there's a great buildup. I'll say that. Today I'm excited to announce a new company called Shepard Safety. We're launching satellites to watch over Casa Grande day and night our AI will monitor- And another safety name! I like that. Safety baby yeah? Where government officials go where they stop who they meet with and when they return home. We've already started collecting and building profiles on your vehicles, spouses' vehicles children's vehicles and other visual characteristics we'll combine that information with publicly available data Bluetooth signals advertising IDs

1:42:02 vehicle information, commercial data sources. There's no difference than the current flock safety capture systems. Local businesses will be invited to join our network so government officials can continue being protected while shopping eating or traveling throughout the city Some of you might think this sounds invasive You think? What do you mean maybe?! Listen... But and you may worry about abuse, you may worry about unauthorized access tracking innocent people. We understand those concerns, after all... Those are the exact same concerns of all the citizens! Now this is satire I would never do this to you Could i? Probably But I wouldn't Because it's wrong Just like what you guys are doing to us Is wrong I'm innocent I don't do anything wrong You're tracking and uploading my information My movements every day Without my permission And I don't appreciate it And I'd like you to stop

1:43:04 Like you to do something about it. Thank you put it behind a warrant just like my phone records That's what I'm asking you guys to do So there so there he builds this terrific case, I thought was pretty pretty smart thing He was saying can you imagine like Newsom and AOC and? Pritzker all those big tract every therapy movement wouldn't that be funny um And then he undercuts himself twice. First of all, he says basically I'm a high road right winger. I would never do something like that because i'm a nice guy well why the hell not if you can't do it? Do it! Put some heat on them and then he ends with

1:43:43 Just well since you're doing it put it behind a warrant. What a stupid thing to say No, just destroy at all get it gone You know but this is unfortunately this is why the right loses so many battles because we're nice guys and And you just you know just don't take it away all the way Just kind of fix it So I don't have to worry about it bad idea very bad yeah, I mean the problem comes from the fact though that if you're in public It's completely legal for people to take a photo video. It's so trying to get this to stop is like, I don't know there's any way without totally going in a different direction that isn't necessarily better but it's not an easy solution once you've got the technology that people have meaning it sounded like he was pulling the whole we're going

CHAPTER 22 / 36 Discussion

Deconstructing Garrett Langley's Flock Safety TED Talk

The hosts deconstruct a TED Talk by Flock Safety CEO Garrett Langley, pointing out contradictions in his claims about privacy and constitutional law. While Langley asserts the cameras are "fixed objects," he also describes using high-speed drones to track vehicles in real-time. The discussion also challenges Langley's claims regarding data ownership and 30-day deletion policies.

garrett langley· flock safety· ted talk· data ownership· drones· privacy

1:44:40 you know post everywhere you're going which wouldn't be a bad idea that's what they used on Elon and Taylor Swift planes when they were like hey I've got your tail number i'm gonna tell people exactly where your plane is, where it's going. Yes I remember now if you can get that data and do the same thing yeah I get it But I don't know what the solution is because if I want to put a camera outside my house to protect my house as you did. You have the right to do that, absolutely but does the government have to do that? Have the right to do that? That's kind of a jump ball. Are these even governments most of the time or are they third parties? Here's what they are and um... The next clip is this is the CEO this guy named Garrett Langley

1:45:27 And this is his TED talk. So I figured, I better do some serious deconstruction here and that's what this is. I've got this guy blathering and he gave about a 12-14 minute talk and of course it started... First of all the guy standing there and he's exactly what you think would be. He's got his skinny jeans on they're about four inches too short as a friend of mine used to say should throw party in shoes and invite his pants down You know? Umm..he's a geek He's a creepy geek. I mean you say that lovingly, right? No no nothing with complete total animosity really and so he starts off with this shaggy dog story about how a flock uh a flock camera being on a street corner near a child abduction saved the day in the kid's life and blah blah blah and is there embellishment in there? I'd be surprised where they're not but I don't know...He's telling his story

1:46:17 And then he gets into the meat of the matter, which is what people's complaints are about this Flock crap. I take him to task at every turn and hope you like this. When I talk to these opponents—and I've gotten to know many of them over the years now—they tend to have three big issues with Flock. Whether it is a constitutional violation? What does that mean for my privacy? Are you building mass surveillance? Let's hit the easy one, constitutional. 30 court cases over the last two years every single one of them has unanimously said this does not violate the constitution why? We're not tracking a person in real time we are tracking a fixed location so I'm gonna check the box on Constitution Bullshit Okay that is my British friend Minerva chiming in there He says when I track a person in real time and it's stationary situation right That what he just said However maybe

1:47:16 I'm going to say two and a half minutes prior to that statement, he said the following. into a detective. Now every camera in the city is looking for this white van." Well then what do we need police for? You've got every cameras and detectives. But but every camera's a detective, so all you cops kiss your jobs goodbye because the camera is a detective. Won't stop the children! Is they launch a drone So just like Adam would launch their drone up in the air The drones flying at 400 feet 65 miles per hour trying to find this white van now a camera eventually finds them drone goes over

1:48:08 Okay, now what did he just say? 17 seconds back. Fixed objects, doesn't move Wait a minute he's got a drone that is moving at 400 feet high 65 miles an hour to track a white van Whoa whoa whoa I think i heard a lie Did you Darren? Yeah they sound like drones move Drones move And by the way the big case this was solving Was somebody had shoplifted something out of a clothing store Well of course you need to get everybody out and about for that. Get everybody out there! I thought we don't put people in jail for that anymore? That's right, why bother especially not in LA unless it was a thousand dollars perished anything under 950 it's okay you can take it

1:48:53 Yeah, so we can continue. Privacy? This is actually a really good question because- Stop stop okay yeah beep the next one is he the word privacy but listen you can't even understand it when he says says it because he's he knows he's lying through his teeth He won't even enunciate the word correctly Listen to this again It's funny and I want to know did you get the beat from like in 1980s alarm clock Exactly But when we sat there and said what if we are really successful So the first thing we asked was what about data ownership? Who should own this data, this is a lot of data. Historically companies my competitors own the data and then they resell that data for other use cases in flocks model The customer always on the data so if you live in San Francisco it's San Francisco's data not flux Okay, so wait a minute so san francisco owns the data

1:49:42 Not the company. Well, all that does is indemnify you against legal hassles right? Well it's not our data it's San Francisco Give them some flack So what does that mean to John Q Public Nothing It's just good for flock But he's pitching this as if we should care about that Well, they're telling you they're only going to keep the things for 30 days. Where's the guarantee? They don't tell you what they're keeping. Listened to him contradict himself right on that very topic very soon. The second was retention. How long should this data exist? Historically companies in this industry stored the data in perpetuity. That seems to me more like a liability than an asset

CHAPTER 23 / 36 Discussion

The Illusion of Safety through Mass Surveillance

The hosts argue that mass surveillance creates a "guilty until proven innocent" environment, as seen in the use of geofencing data to round up individuals near the Capitol on January 6. They criticize the "safety is a right" sales pitch used by surveillance companies, noting that cameras in cities like Chicago have not prevented high rates of violent crime.

january 6· geofencing· surveillance state· google maps· shotspotter· chicago

1:50:22 So we delete the data at 30 days if cities and states have laws that say it should store longer We do that shorter. We do that bullshit Okay, so we delete it after thirty days unless they want it longer right then they can keep as long as I want so one lie after another That's what he's telling and well This is the issue like we had with January 6 most of those folks were rounded up because they had their cell phone or they drove their vehicle into an area oh yeah, and The biggest problem with any of this stuff is that the policing now turns into a game of who was in the area and we have that where didn't, that wasn't the case before which some people might be like well so what it's like well there's going to be a much higher

1:51:13 a number of people that are going to get rounded up for things that they didn't do or just because they were in the wrong area at the wrong time. And that's all of a sudden data like, well look you were here it's not good to have this kind of data for uh for tracking and again it's up and down every residential street I would guess, if anybody can prove me wrong. If your street walk up and down it if there's not one ring camera on your street let me know because they're all over now. Of course they are! And people want to know if the black helicopters are coming for you that may be a game. At least the black drones we know. We covered the Constitution, we covered privacy now the big one

1:52:00 surveillance state. You know, look I think everyone in this room probably has a cell phone and what if i told you that someone with mediocre computer software skills could build a product that tracks your exact location in real time down to a few feet? Stop. Google Maps? Stop, okay yeah everybody does have a cell phone but you can as John Dvorak did and I do quite often myself you can leave it in the drawer it's not stitched under your epidermis okay um you have an option to do that but you've no option to avoid these goddamn cameras when your driving or walking down the street big big difference but uh Bimbo Boy doesn't bring that up here No he doesn't

1:52:40 Well, because that doesn't go with what he wants which is not something the sales pitch. Yeah lots of cameras lots and I understand why people buy into it it's because There's already anxiety. I mean, again this goes back to a lot of people who don't have an attention span who are easily spun up we saw this during COVID we saw the people that were getting into physical altercations or taking golf clubs to your cars because you're not wearing a mask man! So, but his rationale is you're already being surveilled and spied upon by your cell phone. So don't complain about it if we do too. Right? Blame me's not wrong! Well yeah but again with the cell phone you have an option to at least stop that if you want You don't have to take that with you everywhere you go And he's going to get into more crap But something else on that subject as well As far as he talks about cops and you can see He got a lot of cops to say nice things about his company there

1:53:45 And there's this mythology about police work. I know a lot about cops, so I have cops in my family and they'll be the first ones to tell you what you're seeing on 24 and NCIS is absolute crap. Kiefer Sutherland does not arrive at the last minute and save you from death that almost never ever happens. The bulk of police work is They find out you're dead and they come out and draw a chalk mark around your body, and they take a report. They do a lot of paperwork? A lot of paperwork! That's really what it is about. And no camera is going to stop you from being killed. Proof of that is there are thousands and thousands

1:54:31 of hours on YouTube and every other platform of people being assaulted, hit with bricks crowbar stabbed all over the place. And they're all on camera aren't they? But they're still injured and dead. Hey we report all the time about how many people are shot in Chicago in a week and then the number that have been arrested oh nothing it's usually 30 to 50 people shot how many people have been arrested nobody Yeah, but there are cameras everywhere. Well Chicago they got rid of these shot spotters because you don't want to know where the shots are coming from no that's bad data for some reason I guess Oh this guy sells shot spotters too i think yeah well then get those in every town! Yeah. That tracks your exact location and real time down to a few feet

1:55:18 Because all of you use Google Maps and Uber, and any device that has access to your location. When you decrease surveillance... And in effect decrease safety... Bullshit! Where's the proof of that? Decreased surveillance decreased safe-safety. Huh?! Where is the proof for that there Garrett? Yeah what is it yeah I would love to see the data or why are saying just because... So you're being watched every so anybody out there want to you know, have a camera on you 24-7 because it'll make you safer. I don't think most people want... Although again to be fair there's a lot of people that are so anxiety ridden and unable to make a decision on their own that maybe they would want like.. So if their house starts on fire somebody sees them on the camera and is like uh yeah you might want to leave the house right now it's on fire

CHAPTER 24 / 36 Discussion

Cultural Discipline vs Surveillance in Tokyo and El Salvador

The discussion contrasts the safety of Tokyo and El Salvador with American cities, arguing that cultural discipline and incarceration are more effective than cameras. They praise El Salvador President Nayib Bukele's "super prison" approach for reducing gang violence. Conversely, they criticize Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson's stance against incarceration, linking it to the push for "15-minute cities" and increased social control.

tokyo· el salvador· nayib bukele· brandon johnson· 15 minute cities· incarceration

1:56:14 You're still sitting watching your iPad. Get up! No, I'm watching my iPad. It's got better things to do... What do I DO? Yeah. It impacts certain parts of the community more than others if you- Oh wait wait wait is this gonna tell you that it impacts the poor communities?! Of course! You got it brother thats what coming next oh yeah and but the guy he's smart but he's not THAT smart because he makes some really idiotic arguments in this next segment If you are affluent in South Africa, you have nine foot walls. You have private security guards— there are 600,000 private security guards in South Africa! More than the military and police combined. So if you are affluent in South Africa it is a beautiful place to live. — Oh no, you're not! — And if you're not affluent... crime is simply the cost of being alive. Now, if you transpose that into a place like Tokyo, beautiful city… There's a few dozen homicides a year. Whether you go to work at 2am or 8am

1:57:13 You feel safe. Stop, stop why would that be? Why is Tokyo so safe because Tokyo is not paved with cameras what do you think that is well it's got a completely different culture that actually punishes yes bingo ding-ding-ding criminals ding-ding-ding That's the difference let's look at something that's not on the other side of the world of El Salvador, it's not that far away. That was I think listed as the most or maybe definitely top five most dangerous places on earth and then Bukele came along and built this super prison and rounded up all the dirt bags and said that's where you're going to stay now. And now I think it's one of the safest places certainly in Latin America if not around the globe. Gee proof positive! And he didn't do with cameras. Yeah well Tokyo Net Nez says does have cameras everywhere which is probably true now

1:58:06 But again, it's a different culture. So that's the reason I mean here in Chicago well i'm right outside I like to say because otherwise people have no idea where I am but I am right outside of Crook County but this is Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago and what they think you know about crime and kind of just as a good little primer to kind of correspond with this guy We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already tried that, and we've ended up with the largest prison population in the world without solving the problems of crime and violence. The addiction on jails and incarceration in this country, we have moved past that it is racist, it is immoral, it's unholy, and it is not the way to drive violence down.

1:58:59 and unholy to put violent criminals in jail. But no, if we have cameras everywhere Larry it's gonna be fine you're safe. It'll be fine everybody will be good everyone will behave mm-hmm There are cameras all over Chicago and people are still getting shot all the time yeah of course And nobody is getting arrested why is that? Whether you go to work at 2 a.m or 8 am You feel safe It just doesn't matter. And so America is this like very interesting conundrum in the middle, we have the law enforcement infrastructure we need to be safe yet we haven't made to me the most important decision as a society which is that safety should not be a privilege, safety should just be a right. Bullshit! Bullshit! Bullshit! Now there's his big statement because what this guy is angling for really I believe

1:59:54 Is a constitutional amendment to add safety to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness really. And it's complete crap you know this guy is just horrible and his stuff has to go away. And that what he's angry at in later iterations or posts I should say of what he does And he's now saying it's safety is a fundamental right so people they'll be demanding their rights the right to safety Give me Fox and five cameras. That's what this is about It's the pitch when he's talking about where you feel safe Yeah, if it very much depends on The culture there are places in the United States that you still feel very safe to walk up and down Main Street

2:00:36 The United States was, any Main Street was pretty safe 50 years ago. Not like now it's changed a lot. No not Chi-Rac in New York and LA and you're very familiar with New York and LA and I'm pretty familiar with Chicago and it's not yeah a picnic I mean there still know nice places in the city to go but But you know his argument about oh if you're rich, you're safe and happy not true. And indicative of that there's a guy not a dumb guy Steve Wynn probably the most influential guy ever to fool around in Vegas and the most successful He had a big casino before he passed away there Yeah, I don't know if Steve was dead is he dead really? Yeah, I think he passed away year or two ago Oh okay

2:01:21 Well, he built a house in Beverly Hills on three acres 27 thousand square feet and I think he spent 110 million on this thing which you could afford. You know beautiful it's just crazy spectacular stuff and they put it on the market 10 years ago for around that price And it finally sold for 45 million And that's why, because you can live in the greatest place up on the hill with nine foot walls like Garrett Langley said. But eventually you have to... go south or decrease your altitude and move among the populace, in the Vox Populi. And if what you're seeing is razor wire and bars and people living in tents on the street and attacking and hijacking carjacking... You're not going to want to live even on a big mansion on the hill anymore. And that's what happens! That's what happens. And that is exactly why they do it. They are the concept which came out a few years ago

2:02:25 Some headlines, I mean if you're paying attention. If you're not then you're not going to see it but the whole concept of the 15 minute city they called it where they wanted everybody Yeah yeah To live in the highly populated areas and well You ask yourself why? Well because that's already voting the way they want you know The Democrats so come on in we're gonna Sure We're gonna control every aspect of your life which is As we've learned for the last 19 years on NOA Agenda, what a lot of this is about which is I don't know. They say safety Larry but what they really mean as well freedom goes away. Of course yes and before we get to a very extended donation segment people love John C Dvorak! As they should there's a couple things that just wanted to hit on the Iran war

CHAPTER 25 / 36 Discussion

Donald Trump and Public Opinion on Iran

Donald Trump cites a McLaughlin poll claiming strong American support for military action against Iran if they block the Strait of Hormuz or pursue nuclear weapons. The poll also shows high support for the SAVE Act and mandatory photo ID for voting. The hosts discuss the potential for civilian infrastructure to be targeted in a conflict and the media's framing of such actions as war crimes.

donald trump· iran· strait of hormuz· mclaughlin poll· nuclear weapons· voter id

2:03:17 And then we can get to that. This is a CNBC clip talking about a poll, which we can bring you those numbers just to set some sanity to this, which I don't know if he could really do that anymore. Sanity is such a lost art Trump was on his way to Dover, Delaware this morning when he stopped to talk to reporters insisting that he has the support of the American people for the war in Iran and The effort to keep Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Here's what he said. Well Americans aren't against the war A poll just came out Americans don't want high gasoline prices But they're not against the war that just came out loud and clear in a poll Nobody wants Iran to have a nuclear weapon

2:04:04 The president also made additional threats to Iran this morning on social media, writing... "...from this point forward anytime the Islamic Republic of Iran shoots at a ship in the Strait of Hormuz..." "...whether it be by missile rocket drone or any other device or weapon..." "...the United States will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant including those located next to or in the capital city of Tehran. And before we get to the poll numbers, as far as targeting the infrastructure... This is what Disney owned ABC News. how what they had to say, how they framed this. President Trump responding with a stark warning that for every Iranian strike on a ship in the Strait of Hormuz, the US will bomb and destroy one bridge or power plant inside Iran deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure is a potential war crime under international law and this morning The real cost of the war is hitting home

2:05:05 18 American service members killed so far and 100 wounded this month alone. Now, the very interesting thing there is these but one the sound effects are always great. Yes it I never really even paid much attention to that before listening to Adam and John and then it's like you can't unhear it those net pops yes and the oh it might be a war crime. Well, they were careful which is good because targeting the infrastructure is not a war crime if there is a military reason behind it and military necessity behind it and part of that is If you're going to be targeting a place with a bunch of civilians That you know You kind of want to give them a heads up but that's fairly easy in the world we have now

2:06:01 I mean, you can put out the word. You could drop pamphlets. You could do all sorts of things that are like yeah, you don't want to be anywhere near this at this point so it's not a war crime. I mean really nobody would ever win a war if you're like well you can never hit their power infrastructure or bridges or anything they need to fight back. It doesn't make any sense but the poll that Donald Trump was talking about...I think it's interesting because polling is greatly dependent upon the way the questions were phrased. Sure A lot of times, you can get people to say almost anything that you want in a poll there's no question about it This poll that Trump was talking about was a McLaughlin poll which John McLaughlin works for Trump so he is the in-house pollster

2:07:00 With that said, I've followed his stuff over the last 10 years or so and he has a pretty good track record. So i'm not totally discounting what he has to say but you always have to point out Where the data is coming from because it's so easy to manipulate a poll for sure The questions that were asked agree or disagree Iran should be should not be allowed To block attack mine, or extort ships in the Strait of Hormuz 72% of the people agree only 18 percent of the people disagree Agree or disagree? The United States must

2:07:44 finish the job in Iran once and for all. 61% agree, 28% disagree. Last would be on a different topic but only agree or disagree only United States citizens should be allowed to vote in elections 82% agree 12% disagree Finally, along with that should voters be required to show a photo ID when casting a ballot? 78% agree and 17% disagree which shows you if those numbers are even close to being correct.

CHAPTER 26 / 36 Discussion

China Arming Iran with Man-Portable Air Defense Systems

Reports indicate China is selling 400 rocket launchers and "Man-Portable Air Defense Systems" (MANPADS) to Iran via Pakistan, despite President Xi Jinping's assurances to Donald Trump. The hosts mock the "MANPADS" acronym and speculate on the geopolitical implications of China's involvement in the Middle East.

china· iran· manpads· xi jinping· dillon mulvaney· shadow war

2:08:30 Just how far out of touch the Democrat Socialist of America and the other far left really is. And if they don't pass that SAVE Act, look out baby! I know it's all fake and gay It is all fake and yet politics overall is always but... Well before we get too far afield from Iran, I hope they sent you this clip. It says China sells weapons to Iran? Do you have that in your... Oh yeah this raised an interesting point you might take President Xi told you that China would not give or sell Iran any weapons. There's a new report that Iran is about to get 400 rocket launchers from China going through Pakistan to Iran? Well, I'll be surprised if things like that happen but there will be surprising he told me very strongly he wouldn't partake and he knows it'd be quite disappointed now

2:09:31 They left out the critical part in the audio that just didn't come up, but this audio appeared under a headline, Darren. That said China to arm Iran with hundreds of man pads What's a man pad? That sounds like a really bad product! I thought these might only be deployed by the Dillon Mulvaney division during select days of the month And they're only good for one use only and must be properly disposed, right? And somewhere Hegseth is having a stroke. Man pads! Really what a funny name okay and it says that the contract covers the purchase of between 300 and 400 man portable air defense systems so these things look like kind of like a bazooka I guess but

2:10:14 But I'm wondering if she is screwing with Trump and Higgs just, just naming the device man pad. Or maybe there's a shadow war department it's being run by Rachel Dick Levine who can say who can say? There is no way to know that is the issue and uh, the word from Donald Trump was he talked you not only she but it was also Putin wasn't included that both of them agreed Not to be helpful to Iran in any way shape or form whether that's true, or not man That's uh that's impossible to really know you know. You know that is I don't know how you Know how you can prove that one way or the other but Bizarre stuff going on in the world this is why there always is bad thank God It's good for the show This is why no agenda can't go away There's always something going on

CHAPTER 28 / 36 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations and Tributes to JCD

A large segment is dedicated to reading high-value donations from producers including Matthew Hasko ($1,088.33) and Alex Mandel ($1,000). Donors express their grief over the passing of John C. Dvorak, describing him as a "father figure" and a "staple of entertainment." The hosts struggle with the technical aspects of the donation spreadsheet while thanking the community for their support.

matthew hasko· alex mandel· sir lucas· john c. dvorak· donations· value for value

2:14:27 And as I said, the treasure coming in today a lot of donations and Larry and I understand finally what it means when you say the spreadsheet got blown out. Yeah staring at that? Whoa yes again guy with one eye here so with the challenges on here uh and then we'll have to try the i am not going to be as fast with the clips as the podfather, especially since I've got to have that on the side screen because the only way I can read the spreadsheet is on the big screen. But we do have a bunch of people to thank today starting with Matthew Hascoe who came in from Orlando, Florida with $1,088.33. Oh that's magic numbers and JCD magic numbers! Indeed they are He says in the morning John Adam and Mimi I'm sorry that this is what got me to finally donate so I thought it was only appropriate to make it an instant night

2:15:28 I was in and out, I wish we had in-and-outs around here. Oh yeah they're great And was order number 33...I knew it was time! But I didn't know that Buzzkill had left us. I was catching up on the greatest podcast in the universe and started playing 1888 while working That's how I found out the sad news Please knight me Sir Matt of The Flight Levelz To quote John with my favorite of his catchphrases John you really are dynamite To the Dvorak family, you are in my prayers. Adam congratulations to your family. Cleo is a gift from God. Fair skies and tailwinds JCD Matt Posko. Well thank you Matt! Thank You Matt Coming in next Alex Mandel with $1,000? And there's a different note so I click a different button all the magic just kind of happens Oh isn't that cool? Sure if it works

2:16:25 Wait, I shouldn't have said that. Sorry don't... He says dear Noah Jenna, I've been debating doing an instant night for a while and I kept putting it off because I wasn't sure if it was really worth it. I was okay living life as a douchebag and solely hitting others in the mouth after all you were just some guys that I listened to at work and in the car Now that John has passed, I know just how wrong I was and how important both John and Adam have been in my life. An unreplaceable staple of entertainment information and stories for the better part of the last decade. Love you both Mina and sending love to the Dvorak family and all of the other products of The No Agenda Show

2:17:10 Jingles Alec Jones chemtrails frogs gay. Oh there that has to be a Yeah, let's see frogs gay can I make this bigger? Maybe and I think there's a lot of This is gonna be such a learning curve You know I could probably just search frogs Really, Adam is like a symphony conductor with all these things. I don't know how he does this. It's quite amazing. No, it's like magic! It really is... I DON'T LIKE THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT TURN THE FREAKIN' FROGS GAY!!! Adam was getting pretty good though with his Alex Jones voice too, I will say. Yes, yes. And Sir Alex says please call out Chuck the Trucker now that's an interesting name as well. Hmmmm. Yeah. DOOSHBAG

2:18:00 Oh, that was the call out? Yeah. Chuck the trucker was a douchebag! So come on Chuck the trucker get on yeah and for The Roundtable a bowl of red Texas style chili from Green Bay Wisconsin that I'm still scratching my head Alex but i'll go along with you the red Texas style chili and a protein powder white Russian So I guess he's staying healthy while getting his drink on. Not a bad idea, Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley and we thank you for your support of The Best Damn Podcast in the Universe!

2:18:37 Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits came in with $888.88 and just says, Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits JCD you will be missed and yeah that is an understatement. Do you want to take the next one? Sure we've got Sir Harrison of the Rednecks from Beaumont Mississippi. MS is Mississippi huh 888 Hattiesburg, Mississippi. And let's see what is he saying? Switcheroo 500 of this goes to Sir Gopher Gold God bless the Dvorak family God bless the Curry family You guys have been such a staple of my amygdala shrinkage diet Love you mean it NJ slash nk Commodore Sir Harrison of The Rednecks You've got...SKARMA

2:19:35 It is magic. It is Sir Proteus, Newark Delaware 888 88 and also no jingles, no karma will thank you. Yes, thank you sir. Give a little double up. That's it. Yeah Tammy and Spiro Oh go ahead Tammy and Spiro from Saint John Indiana 526 dot 36 From Tammy and Sparrow, long time listeners to infrequent contributors. We love you and JCD God rest his soul and good luck in the future." And again no jingles I'm loving these people! Makes it easy huh? You've got

2:20:26 It's easy when it's only on the same one that I don't have to find it. It's just there yeah Robert Weber from Trabuco Canyon, California I know that place. Towards the resurrection slash reincarnation of John, whichever gets him back he was such an important part someone a little-a fellow cranky old man can relate to it'll be sad to hear new episodes without his voice we echo that and um but he was cranky in such a good way He was, he really was. And I thought a lot about him and he's an acquired taste the more you heard the more liked really. And I think something about John that so few people have...and I'm gonna say he's in entertainment business because he was for 18 years. John was devoid of status

2:21:24 When you heard him talking, it was exactly who he is. You know what I mean? Very few performers... What you hear publicly is not what he's saying across the dinner table or when he's shaving his face in the morning. It's kind of a touch of put on there but John was ridiculously honest and authentic Absolutely and there were no jingles in there. It was Tammy and Spiro were $526.36 Robert Webber $500 Oh, I forgot the amounts. Sorry. You've got...skarma. Boom! This is called two old guys get used to reading a spreadsheet Exactly You want me do the next?

CHAPTER 29 / 36 Discussion

Hyper-Local Podcasting and Small Town Politics

A donor from Downingtown, Pennsylvania, asks for advice on starting a hyper-local podcast to cover his town's controversial mayor. The hosts encourage the endeavor, suggesting that covering local issues is a powerful way to build community. They recommend using platforms like Nextdoor to find an initial audience and emphasize the importance of authenticity.

tim hendrick· hyper-local podcasting· downingtown pennsylvania· rodecaster· small business

2:22:06 Sure, this would be Tim Hendrick I guess. West Bradford Pennsylvania $500? Hi Adam! I wanted to say I'm sorry for the loss of your friend John. I can't imagine what you're going through along with his family. I initially thought the news was fake or that I read the newsletter incorrectly when it went out about John's passing I'm a little late to the no agenda party, but I was glad to find you guys when I did. Your chemistry was so great and complimented each other so well. I really don't know how you'd move forward? I don't envy your position because naturally people will be mad or complain about whatever is next to work together with you."

2:22:46 I actually bought a Rodecaster during COVID and tried to do something with my wife. I even figured out how to clip stuff and have sound effects, it was fun and exciting because it was a new challenge for me. I've owned operated this auto body business since 2012 and it sucks insurance companies suck as they do every day feels like an uphill battle that's why you guys were great. I could get real news from you guys and then go home until my family to chill out about the doom and gloom I've since listed my podcasting stuff on eBay, but would really like to get back into doing something with it. I'm kind of an idiot." You had mentioned the hyper-local podcast thing before? Is there somewhere I can find more information about it?" Where I live we have a trans mayor who says some wild things on the internet that's Downingtown, Pennsylvania. Good luck with everything moving forward! I wish you the best Tim

2:23:42 This guy is so brave doing a podcast with your wife. Adam Curry pulled it off, and I... A lot of people that could lead to divorce." I wouldn't try it. That just would not be good! My wife would not want to spend that much time talking to me. No. And then the things that I would find entertaining you'd get that look like, no-no that's not for public air as far as the hyper local stuff? Just cover your area. I mean, that's the beauty of it You don't have to go out there with hey We're gonna be covering the whole auto body business or we're doing this just do a podcast name it about your town and start you know small and yeah if you want us if you wanna kind of browse or comb for you know possible listeners, you know that Silly no what is it called next door?

2:24:34 platform might be a way. I mean, just about every town in the country is listed on there you could plant some seeds there as a beginning and get some stickers or put something you know the local grocery stores here that we have a couple that are like the old fashioned grocery stores don't still have like the peg board where lucky you That's it. If you live in a small town, it shouldn't be hard or just walk door to door and put a little wire and like listen to the podcast go here, go get a podcasting 2.0 app either way let us know if you start that up Tim because I mean if you need any help I can help you out with that kind of stuff coming in no jingles there so... You've got...Skarma

2:25:21 Next on the list, J. Kelly Rapier from Frankfort Kentucky which is $500 was a check and no note so double it up! Thank you J. Kelly. Next is Victor Gregg from Corvallis Oregon isn't it? Okay yeah Corvallis I'll buy that I know people every now and then were like, John can't get the names right. Or I'm going to be so much worse at getting the names of towns, right? I need to cheat. I need to look them up for have grok give me an expo, uh, the pronunciation on it. But Victor comes in with four Oh nine 40 in the morning condolences from Baron Victor of the Willamette Valley

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Global Producer Support and Knighthood Ceremonies

Donations arrive from around the world, including Rotterdam, the Netherlands, and Kodiak, Alaska. Producers share stories of meeting John C. Dvorak at tech shows in the 1980s and his influence on their worldviews. The hosts perform "de-douching" rituals for first-time donors and acknowledge the profound impact Dvorak had on the "Gitmo Nation" community.

rotterdam· kodiak alaska· knighthood· value for value· john c. dvorak· mimi

2:26:10 I started reading John's columns and seeing him on panels at tech shows during the 1980s. I met him more than once prowling the aisles, he was always good for a hello when i saw him and no jingles no karma so... Okay you've got karma Looks like we've got uh Quinterox Inc of Bradenton Florida $350.93 goodbye John donation he was like the father I always admired but never met Wow there's a statement The amount of people that were touched by John and i get it, we only had a few emails going back and forth but was a part of your life for well over a decade now remember going back to him giving Leo crap which would always the best part of twit

2:27:07 And when he did the, uh. It had to be cranky geeks where you would throw the little thing like the card like David Letterman was and I'm like oh it's OK to emulate things and make fun of them and rip off the bits from other people and kind of take it and make it your own that you get too as somebody pointed that out on one of those last two JCD episodes that, you know he didn't know you but you knew him. There's no doubt about it so people add it and know him It's like but you did! Sure... It seems like he was the guy we hear in each one of those episodes that we had over the last 19 years as you said authentic which is one of the biggest compliments Larry ever gave me early on was like well your podcast is authentic and if you can do that That is going to get you way further than trying to pretend that you're something else

2:28:09 Good idea. Ray Javier coming in from Davis, California with $350 and 58 cents says In the morning my wife and I were shocked when we heard of John's passing he became the father figure we didn't know we needed We've been listening to every No Agenda episode since 2021 And will always cherish what we had for twice a week Sorry for being a douche for so long. Don't have to give him a de-douching you guys put on incredible performances week in and week out, and the value generated was immeasurable whenever we drove up and down 80 and saw Albany Hill We always wondered which house might be John's and thought it was so cool to hear no agenda live while passing by

2:28:55 Our deepest condolences to Dvorak and the No Agenda family, and that comes from Ray. You've been de-douche'd! And you can take the next one there please? Alright this is from Matt S., from Rosedale New York 343.75 Dear Adam and the JCD family, may you celebrate the memory of life of a truly unique man. The stories deconstruction and wisdom he shared

2:29:31 Made us feel as if we were all part of your family. I was out at a playground with my three-year old son when i saw the news, it hit me with profound sadness. I can't thank you both for all the years of information that you dispensed It helped shape my world view which I would never find anywhere else Never underestimate your impact on us all From my wife, our little guy and I. We want to send our love to JCD's family and friends especially Adam as this must be incredibly hard. Thank you for turning me on the show when I lived in Hoboken New Jersey sir smokes a lot now in New Hampshire Sir DJ Fuji and our dear friend who left us early and is with JCD Super Steve he is a knight but don't remember his name

2:30:21 This is my first donation. As long-time listener, please de-douche me! You guys helped get me through the chaos of COVID. No jingles? Just 5 second pause to remember the cranky old man's voice I'll miss hearing it eternally grateful Matt S., now a family man in Queens Okay, so a de-douching and then a five second pause. You've been de-douched! Then E&J Electric coming in from Colorado Springs, Colorado with $333.88 and there's an attached note that is a beautiful area I haven't been there since i was 10 years old at a place called The Broadmoor with my parents now I probably can afford it because im a podcaster just a beautiful area And this was one of... A very interesting donation note because it comes in which looks like its an invoice

2:31:23 From his company, but instead of invoices as donation note with a reference of 333 88 and I mean the whole bit And he says ad spot, but it's not really an ad spot. Howdy this is Justin Robinson with ENJ Electric your independent electrical contractor proudly servicing Colorado Springs and the surrounding areas why am I yelling? I don't get to pick my customer so i thought that it would be nice if I could occasionally work with the fine people in the NOAgenda community find us at enjelectric.com that's echo november juliet electric dot com Shoot us in ITM and we'll get you hooked up.

2:32:02 It says, note I've been telling myself that I need to get this donation out before one of you actually finds an exit strategy dot dot. My last donation was a handwritten note with one crisp hundo read by John back when you would read everything above 50 bucks. I'm not on the Internet much my only knowledge of John was no agenda. I've never seen video clips of him and have only seen a handful of pictures well you should go look for some of the videos they're great This was a theater of the mind that I really enjoyed having listened to him for 15 plus years. My brain was constantly filling in the blanks, it's nice to hear everyone stories as it helps you paint a more complete picture of JCD well thank you very much Justin it is appreciated

2:32:49 You want to do the next one there Larry? Yes, we have Charles Neil from Austin Texas 333 33. Words fail me as I try to express my full appreciation for the show and my sadness for your loss maybe that's John's nudging you to keep it short i wish i hadn't waited so long to reach my knighthood But there's no time like the present to correct past mistakes. Henceforth, I'd like to be known as Sir Gopher Glory accounting below. Please hit me with a mac and cheese jingle and a big bowl of it at the round table thank you for your courage! I'd like my night name again to be Sir Gopher Gold

2:33:30 You slaves can get used to mac and cheese. Mac and cheese, mac and cheese. Cheap macaroni and cheap cheddar melted together! Mac and cheese, mac and cheese, mac and cheese. There's so many clips on here. I can't believe how many mac and cheese clips there are really hot father, how do you know which one is which? Chap Williams coming in from Edmonton Oklahoma $333 and 33 cents via a check with no note so no jingles and we can double up. You've got karma

2:34:12 We have Vince Farrow. Wow, no address just this is a truly anonymous one I guess 315 dot 85 I guess that's parts unknown the epitome of it I guess so yeah you've got karma Then we got was night of the baying coonhound from Burlington, Connecticut. Oh not far from Larry's $288 even says thank you JCD I miss you but my hope is to see you in heaven and that sweet no jingles No karma. You've got karma

2:35:02 Andrea Ludlam from Holmes Beach, Florida to 80 dot 74. RIP John. You've got karma. Oh no. The next one that we need Adam for the reading of sir Remco night of team Tivisa to visa I guess a woo look at this place. Yeah. Parness Rotterdam and Sir Remco Knight of Tevisa, and from...

2:35:40 Penis, Rotterdam as John once said. Well John said it was penis Rotterdam but that I believe no doubt because that's where exactly probably what i would have said as well of course he says I had no idea that a man I'd never met and listened to more than my girlfriend oh don't tell her that as she herself pointed out would cause my eyes to leak this often Dame tooth Ola and I have put John's picture on the wall of our office for guidance and much-needed wisdom. And There is a message in Dutch for Adam that I'm not even going to try and to Mimi and the kids Stay strong, and thank you for all of your courage Well Thank You sir Remco and I'm sorry for butchering your name and probably city you've got karma

CHAPTER 31 / 36 Discussion

Memorial Donations and the No Agenda Enterprise

Producers continue to send in donations in memory of John C. Dvorak, often referencing his love for Costco wine and his "cranky" persona. One donor, the Duke of San Francisco, organizes a meetup at the Duke of Edinburgh pub in Cupertino. The hosts reflect on the "DNA" of the show and the challenge of carrying on Dvorak's legacy.

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2:36:33 Okay, Manuka Gold from Hudson Florida. $250 from the Manuka Gold family just a donation to keep supporting the show we hope Adam has a nice break and reminder that code freedom for 20% off is still active at manukagold.com to celebrate America on her big 250th birthday Well, thank you. I mean they actually acknowledged that they knew we would be the Yahoo's reading and they donated that cool. Yeah much appreciate it here their stuff really good. I'll have to get me some Jess and coming in next CJ Schmock from Nantucket $250 with the note that says worst exit strategy ever will be missed in yeah this is a this is certainly not the best exit strategy

2:37:27 Darcy Morris of Hanover, Massachusetts 238.88 This news sneakily hit me in the feels Sorry to hear about JCD Sending 88.88 plus 50 for each of the three Jamokes uttered since my last donation Take care Darcy You've got... ...Skarma Then Patrick D. Buote from What's it must? Let's see muska do Boit Muska do Boat Harbor Senate Nova Scotia. I know it's Canada So at least I've got that he says as I sit at the computer with a heavy heart, I struggle to type my thoughts and feelings

2:38:16 Both John and Adam have become mentors to me over the last six years or so. John was one of those people you could only come across every so often in life, I always admired his ability to articulate his opinions in such a clear and concise manner while keeping his cool for the most part." Oh yeah there's audio clips Whether I was hearing about another unique career he had or the clever use of a word, I had never heard of. John never ceased to impress me." I had hoped one day to meet him in person in a way I feel like I had already done so through this amazing show. Rest In Peace JCD sincerely Patrick and he came in with 23636 and I missed that because of the name of the city probably

2:39:04 And you can do the next one course more. Amazing listening and reading so many wonderful accounts about John on NA&X, and the positive impact he had on so many of us for so many years. There's so much I want to say but in honor of John will do my best to keep it short. I've been hitting people in the mouth for years but this is my first monetary donation So please de-DOUCHE me! I would also like to ask you all your unknowageous family to help getting my YouTube channel monetized

2:39:51 I'm getting there and every bit counts. I've spent the last year traveling to different cities, mostly Bangkok Thailand and filmed POV walks and motorbike rides partially as a way to document these cities during these times but also give people from other countries a glimpse into what other peoples day-to-day lives look like They are great to have in the background while you're working for the ambient environment, but there's always near things to see if you watch. I have plans to travel more when I finish my Thai language studies as well as a new series for the channel exploring cuisines throughout Southeast Asia and beyond! Please check out my long format videos on YouTube Go Slow Faster

2:40:32 and short form videos on TikTok, go.slow.faster and IG, goslowfaster I also need karma, I'm sorry, I also need jobs karma and dealer's choice of a clip featuring John Please love and lit David Pappy Powers. You've got jobs, jobs, jo-jo-jobs karma Coincidence? I think not! Hey, that actually worked? I noticed in the troll room. I totally forgot to count the trolls!

2:41:09 Uh-oh. How can I forget to count the trolls? Oh no, train wreck! Right now we've got 539 people listening with a peak of 888. So thank you to everybody for coming out to hear us try not to totally destroy Adams Intellectual Property all in one quick afternoon. It is very much appreciated. We got those jingles and what do we have next? Michael Flynn from Spokane Or Spokane, as they say. Yeah, Spokane Washington $218 and 89 cents in remembrance of John C. Dvorak then Clint C. Scaliano with Parts Unknown $210 and 60 cents followed John since the PC Magazine days early 90's to me I'm still in shock and tear up when I think about it The first six hours of tribute were rough, yeah get that?

2:42:06 I'm thankful for the seven hour plus hours of clips to make me laugh. Clint C Galliano, realtor in South Louisiana. It's like I see what the, um, with JC, I didn't know. I knew it was going to hit me at some point But it was just at the end of the pre-show. And again, I know that was him having some fun with me. Sure. Jonathan Reisman, Chesterfield Missouri $210 and 12 cents So sad to hear that JCD is no longer with us My deepest condolences to Adam the Dvorak family Now my wife and I listen in twice a week. Thank you for all you do from Cody, oh! I just skipped the line, sorry. My deepest consolations to Adam, the Dvorak family and everyone else who receives so much value from John and his work." Then John Wyden from Kodiak Alaska

2:43:00 $200 says continued heartfelt prayers for the Dvorak family. My sons introduced me to the show now my wife and I listen twice a week Thank you for all you do all the way from Alaska that fun Linda do Parkin of Castle Rock, Colorado Yeah Hey Darren and Larry, thanks for stepping in. Big shoes to fill. Jobs Karma For a competitive edge with a resume that gets results go to imagemakersinc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs That's Image Makers Inc., with a K And work with Linda Liu Duchess of jobs and writer of winning resumes Jobs! Jobs! Jobs!

2:43:55 Good old Joe Biden. That's exactly how he normally speaks to it said yeah, I was expecting Hillary but that was even better It's like an all random day. That's the fun then Martin Bennett came in with 19902 with no jingles no karma so that is very much Appreciated I think we missed one on the other one as well You've got karma Dame Stacey of Yellowstone County and the Black Hills. 198-91 in the morning, there's nothing I can say that already hasn't been said. John added so much to this world and will be greatly missed. Love and prayers do all love and light. Dame Stacy of Yellowstone County and the Black Hills

2:44:44 Then we have Amanda from Minnesota, Minnesotanuts with 198.89 donating has been on my I'll get to it list and never imagined it would be under these circumstances with deepest condolences John was truly a fabulous product toasting his legacy with a terrific Kirkland wine Cheers and thank you Amanda from Minnesota and yeah, JCD. I know he cost me money my wife doesn't even like drink wine but anytime he had a Wine tip it was like I gotta go to Costco we can give him his gifts like okay It's always costing me money

2:45:25 Here's one from Sturgillicious, 187.97 IT Morning my deepest condolences to Mimi Adam and all the NOAgenda family John will truly be missed NJNK Sir Stregalicious yeah I said it right Stregalicious And coming in next Mark Cram with 188.88 Says Adam Mimi and family in the morning. My son-in-law hit me in the mouth while he was recovering with us after having his appendix removed while on a business trip in 2020, ooh that's no fun to begin with but on a trip that's worse. Haven't missed a show since thank you for all the years of love and laughter may God bless you and the show John will be missed but his DNA will always remain in The Enterprise

2:46:14 It's a good way to think about it. That is, that's cool phrase Mark Cram 188.88 now we went wrong Oh no you're on the Duke I'm on the Duke oops my mess duke of San Francisco San Francisco US of course 166 99 The Duke of San Francisco this morning in the passing of JCD as Commodore Of the San Francisco Bay i declare a meetup at The Duke of Edinburgh In Capertino at 533 p.m., theduke.com. Mark McGough, Benson North Carolina. Rest in peace John sincere condolences to Mimi Adam family and friends started listening during this pandemic going to miss hearing John weekly God bless the way I kind of thought about it earlier that no agenda had the story a few weeks back

CHAPTER 32 / 36 Discussion

Final Tributes and the Impact of JCD's Career

Donors recount Dvorak's long career in tech journalism, from his PC Magazine columns to his appearances on TechTV and CNET. Many express that they felt they knew him personally through his decades of work. The hosts read messages from pharmacists, realtors, and "gray beards" who all credit Dvorak with teaching them critical thinking and media deconstruction.

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2:47:29 The girl she had her license, but when the flight instructor jumped out mid-flight was just like you know what to do That's kind of how I feel today Lisa Mikalski coming in with 118 89 John put the sea in counting cars on the Zephyr Costco wine recommendations and cynicism mixed with charm John put the C in cold reads and mispronunciations in the donation segments that made me smile. John put the C in clue, and a clever one was with the January 12th 2025 horrible tip of the day which was a simple search revealed his true age!

2:48:13 I've known since that, that something didn't add up. Maybe he was trying to tell us something most importantly John put the C in courage as in thank you for your courage to Adam Mimi JC, Jay and Brennan. The show Thursday was full of laughs and tears. Thank you for opening up your hearts memories and raw emotions to the whole of Gitmo nation and allowing us to share that with you my deepest sympathies to you all as you take on the challenge to carry on John's legacy will thank you

2:48:49 Lisa, and I didn't realize the must've been that true people search that John recommended. His real age was there we could have known. We would have just looked him up? So easy. Valerie Ray of Plano Texas 114 69 and no message no jingles just thank you Valerie. You've got karma That also goes for Samuel Thomas parts unknown with 10569 And Debra... Debra Keenum, 105.35 I eagerly got in my car Friday morning ready to listen to the No Agenda show on my way to work. I heard the opening and cried. I've been a listener for over two years JCD brought humor and wisdom he will be missed but it impacted so many lives Absolutely true thank you Andrew Grasso of Mineola New York

2:49:57 My wife talked me into buying a starter home down the street from her parents and around the corner from her sisters and aunts. So this sounds like everybody loves Raymond, the type of home in neighborhood is not what I wanted for my life but now I've begun to understand that we will never be leaving." with deference to John C in his memory. Please knight me, Sir Grasso reluctant Knight of Mineola at the round table I request Manuka gold a surprisingly great cheese. I discovered Oh no, I'm sorry it's a uh... Marryaguda yeah I see bad eyes i saw manuka gold that's not right! I did too A surprisingly great cheese that I discovered

2:50:42 from Wisconsin made by a Dutch immigrant. As for the wine, I'll let John C make the selection." Oh it's cool signed Andrew Grasso thank you Robert Stokes uh no address 103 35 rest in peace John C Dvorak and this next one Michael Stepnitska Vienna Virginia $100 in the morning indeed. I really miss his analysis as well as learning what he put the C and my condolences to John's family and to you As well, we'll thank you Michael Dita and Jack Cumberland Foreside Maine

2:51:28 We were lost during COVID, then we were found. Cause John and Adam were around their deconstruction gives us hope to understand news and not be a dope now John's crossed the threshold he will sorely he'd be sorely missed but the show must go on or he will be pissed RIP JCD love and light to all Dida and Jack Cumberland Foreside Maine Felix Comicchi comes in with $100 from Farmington, Connecticut. Rest in peace JCD your memory will live on thank you for the laughter and the memories Thank You Felix

2:52:08 Adam G Hurst, Heathcote Australia. Thank you both Adam as $100 thank you both John and Adam for being part of my daily life for the past six years listening every morning on my commute to work John's passing leaves a hole that can never be filled rest in peace John CD thoughts and prayers to Mimi and family John Buell coming in from Vista California with $100 no note so double them up You've got karma. Ezra from Bris Vegas, Australia 9482 Hello Adam Mimi and family

2:52:55 My deepest condolences, I've been listening to Adam and John since 2014. Thanks to Grimerica please dedouche me for I have sinned. John was the father figure I never had." Man we hear that a lot don't we? Wow! Yeah um... The trusted friend i'd never met and the teacher I never knew I needed he made me laugh every episode with his blunt wit and impeccable timing And I don't think there will ever be a time where I don't miss him Please play John's spooky Do Nate, he would probably have a chocolate that as we're from Bris Vegas Australia. You've got karma and get next Rose Richardson with 94 82 and no note, no jingles, no karma enemy since we're doing it, we need the uh,

2:53:59 practice anyway. Yeah, karma. Here's Dame and 94 82 I just found out about John's untimely demise and a meant so much to me during COVID when I found get Monation and realized it was not alone in the world gone mad. John's legacy is far reaching and won't stop at his mortal passing love to all Dame Julie G coming in from Brighton Ontario 93 88 my condolences to Mimi and the family and hugs to Adam. I am sad to hear of John's passing It's 138 20 Canadian dollars, which is 88 88 plus $5 for fees And of course John loved the eights. Yes he did Wendy no

2:54:50 No home, no parts. Parts is known as Darren said you made an incredible impression on me week after week the NOA agenda show was a safe place it left in that imprint on my heart that will never fade best podcast in the universe love and prayers Wendy high low Holland Ryan Caitlin and Maggie from back cells ville in Pennsylvania That sounds Dutch as well 9364 which I'm guessing is 8888 with fees. We miss you John praying for you all love Ryan, Kaitlyn and Maggie no jingles No karma well Thank You Leith Crooks Noah address I like everyone was shocked to hear of John's passing my condolences to the Dvorak scurries and all the producers

2:55:39 I'm about three weeks behind, so it will be a bittersweet experience listening to his last remaining shows. The donation box asked for a favorite memory of John and apart from his daily lessons in critical thinking what sprang to mind was when Adam would make an exceptional quip that would crack John's scaly exterior but there was always a small delay before John made an outrageous sounding laugh in the background It would always be so unique and sound, and I'd find myself rewinding the show to listen to it again. A testament to the relationship you two shared, bits that made John laugh would also make a great special show RIP Buzzkill Leith."

2:56:28 V-Vitenheimer? Sounds right to me. 93, 64 no note no car so uh... You've got... karma Thank you Charles Bill LeClair, very sad to hear about John's pass. Oh 9364 no address. Very sad to hear about John's passing condolences to his family and friends he was loved by many and will not be forgotten John responded to all four of my emails over the years one to explain why always said my name capital L small A capital C He was a big fan of classic WC Fields so am I rest in peace John bill leclerc

2:57:13 Edward Yovno coming in with 93-64 and the sad emoji, which I feel you. Thank you Yes Elliot Lang I 93 64. I worked in a Chicago computer store back in the early 80s and we all enjoyed John's PC magazine articles every month I didn't like the mouse when it first came out either I almost felt like I was betraying John when I got my first cereal mouse so long ago, I Have followed Johns career throughout the years and considered him something of an old friend. I will miss him Elliot Lane

2:57:50 Yeah, a lot of people didn't. I mean he didn't say the mouse was not going to work He just said there was no evidence which there wasn't i'm backing him on that one Okay pat dearie came in with 93 and 64 cents says no words He will be missed well Thank you Pat is appreciated sir plum or surplus of the consumer 9364 surplus of the consumer here jcd read my dono on show 979 One of my proudest moments is making him say, me likey. Grateful for JCD teaching me whipsaws and all the insider media tricks also his love joy peace patience and of course courage Thank you sir plus then Ryan Young coming in with 93 64 with no note in there at all Okay here's Darren O'Hara see a relative Henderson Nevada 9364

2:58:51 I know this will likely miss the 1889 cutoff, but things got busy and I still wanted to get this donation in. I had been saving for another executive producer credit but it felt important to give something now to honor JCD and the greatest podcast on earth! I remember listening to John on DH Unplugged though for whatever reason I didn't Didn't find my way to NOAgenda until after I saw that MTV guy on Rogan during the pandemic. I'm glad I did! Thank you, JCD and Adam for helping me get through this time and for the continued media deconstruction each week. And thank you to The Dvorak Family for sharing JCD with NOAGENDA Nation. John C. Dvorak, thank you for your courage Godspeed. You will be missed ITM Darren

2:59:40 Garrett Morrison coming in with 93 64 no note there, so thank you very much And then the next one is sir Dwight the knight From Burlington, Ontario. 9364 in the morning Adam and of course always John C Dvorak Sir Dwight the night here kneeling and heart fallen I couldn't believe the news when i heard it and I'm still having trouble The show will never be the same And I will always listen well thank you sir Dwight You are absolutely correct Stephen Malin, 93-64. Whether going for a walk run driving doing errands or falling asleep the no agenda show was my go to podcast since 2020 as a pharmacist you educated me since our institutions refuse to do so please de-douche me give me a break I had ants You've been De-Douched

3:00:39 Then Sir Allen of Midlothian coming in from Virginia. 9364 says it was a great run for JCD may he now rest in peace, Sir Allen of Midlothian thank you Michael Streichers no address 9364 and no message then John Johnson from Goldsboro North Carolina 9364 says been a douche way too long and long live John C. Dvorak, and we'll give you the de-dooshing! You've been de-dooshed Forbes Benning of London Ontario 9364 my sincerest condolences to the Dvorak & Curry families what a consolation it has been to hear all the heartfelt love for John he touched so many lives JCD was with us for so long

3:01:38 that we thought he was eternal. Well, now he is! Please accept this donation of $88.88. Prayers were said for John...real prayers to wish him well on his journey to the great meet-up beyond Godspeed JCD Sincerely Forbes Bening Surreal Night Of London Steve Carrico coming in parts unknown with 93 33 in the morning like many I came to lean on John's deconstruction and yours to Adam over the years that unmatched calm and realism put us all at ease. Thank you for everything, I'm embarrassed to say but I'm in need of that de douching thank you Steve and uh with pleasure

CHAPTER 33 / 36 Discussion

End of Show Donations and Birthday Wishes

The final block of donations includes contributions from Lady Vox and various producers across the US and Europe. The hosts also acknowledge birthdays for George O and Sebastian. The segment maintains a somber yet grateful tone as the community rallies to support the show during the transition period.

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3:02:22 You've been D douched Michael Gilmore of Danville, California says now that you're upstairs $90 rather Now that you're upstairs. Actually, that's the next one. That's because there's gray in a row they're fooling Oh see and it's my color blindness He said nothing yeah But thank you Michael and then Jackson Capizio Gilmor came in with 90 And says, now that you're upstairs would you ask the owner where the missing newsletters are and who decided the recipients who the recipients would be if he does not know have him assist you with the debugging. You should finally have the ultimate sys admin privileges love Jackson Capizio Gilmore and that

3:03:11 Like I said, 90 bucks. But that reminded me of the Ham Silent Key tribute for John which was very touching. This is the computer guy thing where now you've got the full system admin right? So if somebody's messing with my computer, I'll know who it is. Virginia Watts of Ketchikan Alaska. Lady Vox! Hello Lady Vox. $88.93 because its a prime number with double digits Eric, uh... There's- okay there's extra. There's weird characters! Uh... Yeah, um... YKS and weird zero y. Xnoy? Huh... Yeah I'm gonna go with xnoy. I don't know 8888 You see you thought John couldn't pronounce stuff. I really can't then i can't see it too. Twit donation please! Ddouche I really miss you John thank you for everything you did and thank you Eric

3:04:14 You've been D-douche'd. Rocket of Brownsboro, Alabama 8888 I was shocked to hear of John's passing and was also shocked to learn he was 80 He seemed so young but still one of my favorite OG boomers Love and prayers to the Dvoraks & Currys ROCKET Paul why Garn? Chauffeur I think why garden chauffer 8888 and No, no. Thank you very much Paul Here's an interesting one because it's from my hometown John Dave of Elmhurst New York 8888 no message Thank You John Dave David Egan from Austin Tejas 8888 says rest in peace JCD thank you

3:05:09 Thor. Is that Thor? It's just Thor with a space. Okay, now that's a Dvorak ism if ever! Yeah, T-Hor, Thor from North Sydney Australia Just got back from vacation and in shock You two have been with me since 2008 and always felt like family Heartfelt condolences to the entire Dvorak family I'm devastated Thor from Manly Australia Thank you, Thor. Dame Mary Paul Stewart from Seattle Washington 8888 in memory of John C Dvorak where the c stands for celestial God bless you John Dame Mary Paul Stewart thank you Nathan Marshall no address 8888 we stand on the shoulders of Giants

3:05:54 Very true Joseph King coming from Dacula, Georgia 8888 in the morning Adam and JCD family it is with great sorrow I send in this donation in the memory of John C. Devorak I will keep this note brief so John doesn't get too grouchy up above But I hope to express the immense impact that The No Agenda Show has had on my life I have been a listener since Adams first JRE appearance but never donated any treasure. Please de-douche me? You've been de-douched! The media deconstruction, thoughtful commentary and humor of the show has been a steadfast companion to me these past few years and has been such a positive influence in my life after meeting my now wife Anna I soon hit her in the mouth and can attest that it is

3:06:50 True that those who know agenda together stay together Both of us are devastated at JCD's passing and we send love and prayers to his family And the rest of no agenda nation heading to Costco now to find a cheap Bordeaux in honor of John I'll be Costco should be paying the real war at clan. Thank you, Joseph Andre harsell horse and van den gore Berg of Alphan in Netherlands. Okay, thanks for everything RAP John C. Dvorak 8888 on that one and on this one from Louise Lancaster and it is 8888 our lovely JCD where will we be? Thank you thank you thank you Louise

3:07:45 Sir Jerry Carl, the knight of all things greasy. Sir Jerry Carl? Jerry Carl there we go how did I miss that All Things Greasy, Raleigh North Carolina 8888. John and Adam have brought something incredible to this world I can never thank you enough for what John's columns No Agenda and the No Agenda family have given me God bless you Mimi and god bless the Dvorak and Curry families rest in peace JCD sincerely Ryan Smith Sir Jerry Curl The Night of all things greasy Raleigh North Carolina and PS Thanks for bringing the word specious back into my life. It's a fun one and Jordan Frazier coming in with 8888 rest in peace, JCD the skills you guys have passed on have equipped me for life enabling me to recognize the bulk crap age truly immeasurable benefit well thank you Jordan dude named Mohammed no address 8888 from dude named Mohammed

3:08:48 Then Scott Penton coming in from Tanawanda, New York. 88-88 And then Eric Mackey coming in from Blairsville Georgia also with 88-88 Okay Anonymous From Newcastle upon Tyne Great Britain 8888, dear Adam and the Dvorak family. Just listened to Adams opening in 1888 and it provided a needed release I was sobbing found out when i read the newsletter thought it may be a joke It's hard to describe what an impact this has had on me as an old gray beard named Ben I follow Johnson since early days on twit And cranky geeks says he flung those cards pew-pew jingle please

3:09:35 I will miss his curmudgeonly ways, his wit and sharp insight. And he just plain made me laugh! I would like to be knighted Sir Moor Bott a callback to the place where grew up and spent many happy hours playing as child at the round table i would like a pint of riggwelter and giant Yorkshire pudding filled with onion gravy please Just for random info, Iqlum Moorbat refers to the unofficial anthem of the county of Yorkshire in UK. Literally on Iqli Moor without a hat in local dialect It's a sad tale of a young lover courting the bleak moor and his potential death from exposure without proper headgear. Lovely! We sang this in primary school, A 737 sized hole in your heart is truly apt My thoughts are with you all Soon to be Sir Moorbot at Anonymous Can I believe this is the jingle?

3:10:37 I think that's it. I know there are others on. That sounds like PewPew. On a spin in place, welcome to the roundtable! Next up sir Rob Barron of Greater Limburg coming in with 8888. Thanks John for all the great shows no jingles no karma Sir Rob Barron of Greater Limburg Sir Glenn of Raleigh, North Carolina 8888. My condolences to Dvorak family and Curry family I will surely miss John but hope the show continues media deconstruction thanks NJNK

3:11:15 Ryan Wolf coming in from Covington, Virginia 8888 says dear Adam Johns family and the no agenda donation. I've been following John for over three decades now in the early 90s in the back of the computer magazines. I used to sit and read at Barnes & Noble Johnson Dvorak was there during the golden years of tech TV before it went stupid. Oh you did? John was there On Leo's podcast in the earliest days, when they still called them netcasts John was there. The Cranky Geeks no agenda and DH unplugged John was there

3:11:51 I'm 9 episodes behind the show, so for me John is still there. I think i'll hold those few episodes for a rainy day knowing that john and Adam will be there." One of my favorite Doctor Who line sticks in my head. The doctor says something like... Every time you see people happy, You remember how sad they're going to be later And it breaks your heart What's the point of being happy now if they're just going to be sad and the answer, of course is because they're going to be said later. This feels true right now we always got the happy nowadays time for this sadness I never got to meet John or any of you never shook hands or shared a meal but after all those years of listening John and Adam allowed me to feel a little

3:12:41 Part of their family like a little part of their family John stories the way he talked about technology in the industry and the bits about everyday life Let me share in some of the happiness and camaraderie It's a real gift and one that death doesn't get to take away through all the crazy years The endless news cycles, the pandemics, the AI panic, the climate alarms. The constant sense of imminent doom John and Adam were a steady hand on the tiller Especially during the 2020 kovat times when the media was pouring out panic and fear in doubt The two of you or a stabilizing voice of reason that meant a great deal to me And I imagine it did for a lot of other people too. I can Ditto that and that's a Brian will thank you very much

3:13:36 Okay, um Jeffrey Sarkissian from dollar day or mil in Canada 8888 my deepest sympathies Scott Simon jingle please Don't ask me to speak the Scotch Simon. Yeah, I don't ask me to speak French that's uh That's not gonna happen Suffering suck attach. I'm Scott Simon, Gary Casper Tulsa Oklahoma 88 88 with no note. Then Bob Rathmel from Santa Isabel is that California?

3:14:21 8888 as well. Thank you very much Spencer from San Francisco 80 dot o8 I to have never before cried like this about someone I never met Six hours a week what a gift your show and John has been for me the clip show today was very healing God bless from Spencer in SF And then there he is Kevin McLaughlin from Concord, North Carolina with 8008. That's right 1890 B OOB donation Archduke of Luna lover of America and boobs

3:15:00 Hmm John Albertini Albarrini $70.26 no place, no message Chris Dumanor from Brooksville MD that's Maryland Mary yes I need to go back to geography school I guess He says, thank you for substituting. I am a mother pheasant fucker. Mother pheasants. I am the most pleasant mother pheasant plucker to ever pluck a mother. So I guess he wants to attest the new guy and if he can read and do tongue twisters it'll get a good ISO but thank you Chris. Les Tarkowski of Kingman Arizona. I know that town is pretty cool $60 and six cents

3:15:47 No message. That's an old route 66, isn't it? Oh, it's a great town. It really is cool I like in a lot which maybe this is the 6006 maybe Chris Lee coming in with 5940 so sorry for your loss Adam and family of JCD Thank you for your dedication to the show I miss hearing your stories on thoughts on what's happening each week But hope the show continues on in your memory Sorry, it's only 8888 Aussie dollar bill box. Oh, don't be sad about that it's a beautiful thing thank you Christopher for your contribution and for listening and supporting the best damn podcast in the universe surprise night of astonishment from Yukon Oklahoma US 5444 no message Nathan Gwynn of Jackson Tennessee 5272 No Message Foster Birch of New York New York 5272 No Message

3:16:43 Then Philip Koster coming in from Rosendal, Netherlands 5272. Sorry to hear of John's passing while on holiday in China I really enjoyed his contribution Hope you can help each other with this loss Well thank you Philip Abraham roots, Sunnyville California $50.88 no message and then we have the 50s here we have Aaron wise Gerber from Bend Oregon with fifty Wow, do you want to take that one? Katrien Van Tugel. I think so. I'll go with that maybe it's fake my pronunciation that is Rotterdam Netherlands $50 Richard Garnier for a $50 Steven Streeter South Jordan Utah $50 Mike Toll Memphis Tennessee $50 My thoughts are with you Adam rest in peace John

3:17:43 Paul Nilsen, Nielsen. Nijsson, Nijsson $50 yeah Terrence Clark Jacksonville Beach Florida $50 Joshua Johnson Omaha Nebraska $50 Nathan Noel from Netherland Texas Nederland Texas $50 sounds good Tony Lang Castle Pines Colorado $50 George O New Brunswick's New Jersey $50 and birthday July 25. And Sir Michael from Snohomish, Washington. I thought by memrose, I think yeah coming in with $50 and that brings us to the end of another very touching list. I mean, I love hearing what everybody is remembering about JCD and all of the good things that say hard

CHAPTER 34 / 36 Discussion

Knighthood Nounsication and the Round Table

The hosts perform the formal "nounsication" of new Knights and Dames who have donated $1,000 or more. New titles include Sir Matt of the Flight Levels and Dame Ulyani. The ceremony includes the traditional granting of "hookers and blow" (symbolically) and instructions on how to obtain No Agenda signet rings.

knighthood· dame· signet rings· value for value· round table

3:18:42 Things you go through but man, you want to talk about leaving a legacy. There is no doubt Leaving a huge Legacy behind yeah So now we do the I guess birthday we got birthdays We got meetups we got nightings writings and for the nightings we have a layaway night here so There was no name in here. My husband and I have donated 3333 since 2020, I got my Dame ship. I think my calculations are correct but i think five years and one month in my husband should be a knight can Bruce B sir brew I key of Indy and have Chicago style and a spicy red hot sausage at the round table is still applicable

3:19:38 A make good nighting on episode 1888 I achieve knighthood with a 333 donation. I request the jingle that didn't get played, I wanted to hear Adam this bump in honor of JCD's frequent yeah no i hear john and the jingle in my head sometimes I or anyone around me says yeah no is there? Yeah no jingle hmm let's see here there's a Leo yeah Yeah, no. Yikes! No that's not... I apologize i don't have the vast knowledge of these clips here. I also want to note a change in my knighthood

3:20:29 I requested to be called Sir Loudneighbor, Knight of the Lowest Hills. But that was hasty and i'm not technically in the lowest hills and I had to get my note in quick so if a change is possible I'd like to be known as Sir Loudneighbor Knight Of Winter Quarters it would be greatly appreciated he's from Omaha Nebraska And a make good knighting for Chris Fulford And he wants a mud flat report, jingle. Yeah I'm not sure... There's nothing with flat or mud! Uh oh Is there a report? No, there is a weekly hooker report but I don't have a... Put that in instead, that'll work. Is that just as good? I don't know... It might be better.

3:21:36 Oh my. I love it! That had to do something with JCD and it had to be that's, I don't even remember that one how far back does that go? I like that It's good First off I would like to give my deepest condolences to the entire Dvorak family knowing how much John meant to so many that didn't share his name I can imagine what kind of solar system size hole that has been left at The Family Table I will keep every member of The No Agenda Family in my prayers As y'all sort out the after onward, very JCD. I've been listening to no agenda since somewhere in the mid eight hundreds. I had just recently lost my father to unexpected health concerns or sorry to hear that so these show quickly filled a hole that I didn't know was there two men who knew stuff and were happy to tell me all about it. I was hooked immediately

3:22:31 I started out not caring too much for John because he was such a buzzkill. I was all in with all the crackpot stuff Adam brought for the second half of show and i couldn't stand it when john would poo-poo adam's latest deep dive As I aged from a young man to a proper adult, listening to the show began to see the wisdom in what John had to say and began to actually look forward to what his thoughts would be on many subjects no matter that I'm not, no doubt. I'm not the only one over the many years of having John and Adam at my side as I'm driving around town fixing houses in a C's. I have probably picked up more worthwhile life wisdom than I have ever gotten from the people who should've gave it to me when I was younger. I was always aware of that but for some reason that never clicked in my head as value

3:23:27 Yes, I am a douchebag. Oh we gotta do a uh oh that's a yeah we got to de-douche You've been de-douched I always measured my value received by some of the metrics that Adam likes to mention. A mildly introverted, so I rarely use any information from the show in general conversation. I'm not financially savvy enough to profit from the information and the closest I ever came to feeling compelled to donate was when the hand song made its debut. That's such a great song it is

3:24:03 Needless to say, I took this for granted and am deeply remiss that it took the passing of one of my all-time favorite people to really understand that. I'm also one of the maybe not so few people who actually got the newsletter but never opens it, so I was blindsided by that truck John loves when I opened up my podcasting 2.0 compliant app and saw the cover art! I'm man enough to admit that. I cried for at least two hours in my work van on Friday morning, how I feel you brother when John made it home from the hospital, I realized how important you guys are into my life and I promised myself that I would get on a recurring program as soon as I got my finances in order while John being the master that he is got me to pull out of my savings account to make this palindrome instant night donation of one Oh 88

3:24:59 Zero one plus fees in his honor I still plan to get on that recurring program at some point, but for the time being please don't deduce me. Wait and wait and if you've already deduced me then i preemptively call myself out as a douchebag oh i love the no agenda producers i really do so really your i have to we have tonight's you today and douche bag yeah twice i'll probably return to my douche baggery for a while Seeing as residential HVAC mechanics don't make as much as one might think Unless you are willing to wear a white shirt and lie to grandmothers, but I digress. Oh, I betcha you have stories brother Yeah the Lord provides all so I am perfectly happy with everything already at the roundtable Thank you for my night name. I would like the moniker to be sir Christopher the dog-headed For jingles I have either or request

3:25:58 Mimi, if you are still in John's studio. Can you give us one last mudflats report for the old time sake? If you already have the studio seal as a time capsule to open in 30 years, I could actually see John requesting that. Oh yeah. Then I would like a nice pregnant pause also known as a moment of silence for the legend that will always be John C. Dvorak Thank you for all Thank you all for everything you do. For Gitmo Nation, love is lit! And we have the knightings to do so I mean did you get a sword for the knighting? I did not Oh well here thank you. I'll take that one. Yeah give me that one oh that's nice

3:26:53 And we've got a whole list here. We've got Lene Hall becoming Dame Ulyani, Mira Keck becoming Dame of Thai Chicks Matthew Hosko becoming Sir Matt of the Flight Levels. Alex Mandel becoming Sir Alex of the Floyd River Valley, Charles Neal, Sir Gopher Gold Andrew Grasso becoming Sir Grasso Reluctant Knight of Mineola Anonymous becoming Sir Moore Botot Colin McCarthy becoming Sir Loudneighbor Knight of the Winter Quarters. Bruce becoming Sir Brew-Achy of Indy and Chris Fulford becoming Sir Christopher of the Dog Headed, and what we need you to do then is come on up. Everybody like they're on this stage is this stage even big enough? I think so We want to pronunsticate you

3:27:52 as Knights and Dames of the No Agenda Show. I mean, I don't know if I have the proper coverage to do that but I guess you know in a little further known how but thank you for your support of The No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more and we are very proud to pronounce it took me a long time to realize he was saying Nounsicate rather than pronounce the yes, and we've gotten all the for the usual You've got hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay And then mutton to me to ginger ale and gerbils Long hits in bourbon and all the other good stuff that comes with it head over to no agenda rings calm That's where you can find all the information on getting your very handsome. No agenda night Dame signet rings

3:28:46 Send them the ring size and address. They get it out to you along with some sealing wax and a certificate of authenticity And thanks to everybody for supporting the best damn podcast in them universe and becoming a knight or dame Of no agenda, and we appreciate You putting up with us being the uh The one villain guys. Yeah, the villain guys to do that for you and then we do have a couple of birthdays. We have George O on July 25th and Arno would like to wish Sebastian a very happy birthday he's turning 35 on July 30th and we hope y'all have a darn good time

CHAPTER 35 / 36 Discussion

Global Meetup Reports and Spicewood Memorial

A detailed report from a meetup in Spicewood, Texas, features multiple producers paying tribute to John C. Dvorak. The report includes messages from families who have listened to the show for over 15 years. The hosts emphasize that "connection is protection" and list upcoming memorial meetups in Idaho, Georgia, North Carolina, and Canada.

spicewood texas· meetups· connection is protection· jcd memorial· community

3:29:38 It's your birthday, yeah! Yeah, connection is absolutely protection when it comes to the no agenda meetups. And there is a long list of them coming up before we get to the Spicewood Meetup report. We have Thursday July 30th well that's today The North Idaho Sanity Brigade Summer Meet Up at 5pm Pacific

3:30:16 at Trains End Brewery and the Brick Oven Pizza in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. And the organizer Sir Scott The Jew July 30th Oh I'm sorry If you can do that i'll grab the other audio file here Sure July 30th today North Georgia RIPJCD meetup at 6 o'clock Eastern Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta Georgia Organizer Sir Bob 30 July, urgent pour out one for JCD meetup 6 p.m Eastern Saints and Scholars Raleigh North Carolina organizer JD Jeffers Want to keep going with these Darren? Yes if you could Okay on Friday July 31 Abe's Bay Area exit strategy meet up at 5 33 p.m Pacific the Duke of Edinburgh pub in Cupertino California The organizer is Abe

3:31:12 On also Friday, the 31st J.C. Celebration of Life at 6 p.m. Central at The Barley Oak in Mandeville Louisiana organizer is Dame Rachel Also on Friday, the Calgary meetup at 7pm Mountain. That's the Lennox Irish Pub in Calgary Alberta Canada Organizer is Melvin Gibstein Saturday August 1 Remember and celebrate JCD at 2 p.m Eastern At The March First Brewing Company In Cincinnati Ohio Organiser is Baron Foxhat Sunday Next Show

3:31:48 August 2, JCD in Memoriam at 33 PM. Oh sorry 333 PM North of Toronto time All-Star Wings and Ribs in Vaughan Ontario Canada organizer is Bishop Yeah then there's a long other list of things coming up from all over the world from Ketchikan Alaska to Oklahoma To Australia to Texas to Florida to Thailand And even the UK, all over the place. Just go to noagendameetups.com for that information and we do have a meetup report, the JCD Meetup from Spicewood Texas on July 25th

3:32:30 This is Logan from Spicewood. It's my first meetup and I'm happy to be here but sad to see John go he brought so much insight and knowledge and entertainment the past few years that i've been listening, And I will continue listening as much as I can. I brought my three human resources here that you'll hear on this and our admission here cost 33 30 today It all comes together. Chickens are gonna be the best thing in the world! Don't eat me Bozayden, you're scary so skewy In the morning sending love and lit from the Turner family of New Braunfels Texas We are so excited to have been here today to enjoy this lovely day meeting some super cool people in no agenda royalty like Sir Ducifer and Brian with an I who has merch

3:33:25 Scott and it's been wonderful with all of our families and friends in this beautiful day. And you created this John, beautiful! We love you for it we're gonna miss you and this is devastating here's our son Holden I just want to pray that the Lord be with your family and that he blesses you abundantly and infinitely Hey John I was reading your columns when I was in middle school in the mid 80s I still agree that OS 2 was better than Windows. I've watched you on CNET and Tech TV, and i've listened to a new agenda for the last 15 plus years You will be missed! I don't know how I'm ever gonna know what Costco wine to buy for my wife John we love you and miss you And I hope they give you a hoodie up in heaven This is Viscount Scott of the Armory and Keeper Christine saying farewell to our great friend John

3:34:15 On our 10th wedding anniversary, we took the jaunt to California and berated John. And actually had JCD Jr., to get him go out for lunch with us so that he could spend an entire day with lunch. Surprisingly one of his favorite topics at lunch was this Android phone. Things changed, we even got to see the Lexus. Life's not going to be the same life will go on My prayers are out to the family, John Adam and everybody. We're gonna miss you John Hey this is Sir Brian with an I we miss you John. We're out here celebrating your life doing some swimming and grilling And i was at the store this morning getting food for everybody and i wanted to see if i could find something with a 33 on it like a cool bottle of hot sauce or something

3:35:09 But the only thing I found was a 33 pack of maxi pads and i figured we already had enough to eat. Sir Doocifer Hey John, Adam... definitely.. I don't know if this is more for John or Adam at this point because We have a wealth of stories and advice and information from John going back 18 years. And that's what we should be celebrating We love you guys, and we're glad...and this is way too long Surprised when I was looking at me like yeah, this is not making the cut Would you agree? That's probably where I'm gonna end

3:36:01 Yeah, if you want to be a part of a no agenda meetup I highly recommend it. And the long audio was appreciated because i'm still loading up the end of show mixes go to knowagendameetups.com even our buddy sir Eli the coffee guy is he a sir yet? Eli the coffee guy got me to go to a meet-up back in March so yeah I do leave the house every now and then not you can't believe everything Benrose tells ya That is absolutely true. Again, no agenda meetups.com connection is protection and this is the reason why we are filling in and having a train wreck because it just couldn't have silence for a few weeks so we appreciate everybody kind of following along with us when we were talking to Adam Larry's like yeah you know what could be a train wreck? And he's like I expect it to be that's the fun

CHAPTER 36 / 36 Discussion

Outro and John C. Dvorak Memorial Mixes

The show concludes with a series of "end of show mixes" produced by Sir Chris Wilson and others. The mixes feature clips of John C. Dvorak's most famous catchphrases, his "cranky" rants, and musical tributes. The guest hosts sign off from "FEMA Region 5" and "Pretentious Connecticut," promising to return for the Sunday broadcast.

chris wilson· leo laporte· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· end of show mix

3:36:53 part of it and part of what they do is doing an ISO for the end of the show. And so I have a few here that, uh, I thought might work. And one is this one go back to playing your harpsichord citizen everything as well, which after this show they might need that or harpsichordist I ever knew was lurch from The Addams family. That's was a great show. Yes, it was where I'm thinking Even though it's long and it wouldn't be something that Adam would do. It's too long I think this might be the two for to end today show You're so fucking fired That's not AI, that's real but I think you know maybe what we what we need to do But we thank everybody For hanging out with us. It's been a

3:37:50 a whole lot of fun. We have, let me... If I can find it loaded everything up! Adam makes it look easy. I swear the guy looks he makes it look easy He's a sorcerer He is also from the future no doubt about it Yeah The next thing coming up on the Mighty No Agenda stream Is curated by Sir Ryan Bemrose. Is DH unplugged? Remembering JCD so you want to stick around for that one. We have end of show mixes from Sir Chris Wilson He's out of retirement I'm excited Leo Lapuque sir tie and a secret agent Paul all Of I think two three of those, I think are no AI or maybe all of them So that is very much appreciated when the producers take the time too

3:38:46 To do the real thing. Yes Until next time coming to you live just outside of Chirac right here in FEMA region number five In the morning everybody I am Darren O'Neill And from pretentious Connecticut, I'm Larry Blydner We'll be back here on Sunday Yeah Please join us and remember us at noagendadonations.com until then Adios, mofos and such. Tall and tan, young and lovely The girl from Gitmo Nation goes walking And when she passes each goat she passes goats When she walks it's like a Samba With jiggly boobs and small amygdala When she passes each goat she passes goats

3:40:19 I want to give her some karma. I wanna knight her so badly, Soooo...I go and ask for her. Which she writes on some paper for me. I read it back, she wrote thirty-three Tall and tan, young and lovely The girl from Gitmo Nation goes walking but When she passes She doesn't see My douchebaggery Cause I listen for free We miss you Jessie D Who could light the world up with his scowl

3:41:24 Who could make you laugh out loud By listening to him grouch and growl Now it hurts to know as he leaves through that door Acknowledging that there's no more Dvorak Now we've turned a page, we cannot turn back Nothing is the same without Dvorak Nothing's gonna be the same again Nothing's gonna be the same again Come gather around, Gitmo Nation Let me tell you the tale of a man born in 1952 Now you cannot doubt that date because New York Times reported it So therefore it must be true Regardless the year It was April 5th to a mom who raised him right

3:42:20 Always aware of the threat of the Chinese to their toilet paper. The man, myth, legend John C. Dvorak JCD From El Cerrito High School to Berkeley College Though in the belly of a liberal beast he emerged wiser than most his eyes still opened to see Oft known to roll out an Alexis vintage like his wine In his youth we are told that he was a biker rolling the world on a Kawasaki Triple No matter how cold the weather may have been, The Casanova to all would approach the ladies as only he could with his classic pickup line that always worked. If you need proof that it worked look no further than Mimi

3:43:04 John C. Dvorak, where the C stands for crankiest of geeks Where the C shows his discerning taste in clip of the day Where the Steve could stand for flippin' the whipsaws or chick magnet Where the C stands for the love of commonwealth of Kentucky The polymath of all men, he has done it all. Be it summer jobs and construction or protecting us from climate change As a pollution inspector he excelled He knew crude oil from the heavy sweet of South America to the light sour of the Middle East and all the hydrocarbons they emit In the end, the only reason San Francisco still has mudflats today is his diligent watchful eyes Remember Knights & Dames? He did this while his effort rolled by fighting off Barbara Boxer's advances each day

3:43:59 Later, he would conquer all technology be it InfoWorld PCMag MarketWatch Forbes Twit both times New York and LA. He ruled them all with a wit none could match Then one day his partner Adam Curry put an MT3 in an RSS container And that's where the magic happened In the morning podcasting and no agenda were born deconstructing the world to shrink all the amygdalas He brought peace and smiles in times of crisis so we would not lose hope. We love you, John! You're gone too soon. Stopped. Karma. John C. Dvorak Where the C stands for choosing tip of the day Created by Dana Brunette Where the C stands for choosing stocks with Horowitz Where the C stands for Costco on a supple and complex line

3:44:56 But easy on your heart Now let's gather at the round table, knights and dames One last time for some mutton and mead We've shed our tears And now it's time to do as JCD would want us to Because we all know if John's ghost were here today There was only one thing he would say Donate! Donate! What day of the week is it today? What color tie are you wearing? What color is the carpet in front of you? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution. With the Fifth Amendment... with the Fifth Amendment... The Fif-

3:45:51 Do the Fifth Amendment. Do the Fifth Amendment. Do the Fifth... do the Fifth... I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution Well, nothing says honesty like taking the fifth. I'm not. Dr. Fauci thanks so much for joining us good to be here. The best podcast in the universe. Adios mofo. You're so fucking fired