31:37 Actually, I said the stream went dead check it. No No, we're as far as I know we're still up. Okay. I have a soundbite And this is this is a new meme coming in John that you and I absolutely are and this has to do with vaccines So, you know, of course, there's a lot of you know, we went from anti-vaxxers to do I have it? Do I have to find the meme? It'll be pretty freaking apparent. This actually is from Dr. Kiki's science hour. Oh, Dr. Kiki. Yes, Dr. Kiki. And she was interviewing Greg Poland. Greg Poland is from the, he's at the Vaccine Research Center at the Mayo Clinic. It turned out that this pandemic H1N1 virus that we've just had two waves of turned out to be a very lethal virus for pregnant women. Oh, really?
32:35 Where was that reported, John? Play it again? Well, this is not the meme, but listen to what he says. It turned out that this pandemic H1N1 virus that we've just had two waves of... Two waves of? Turned out to be a very lethal virus for pregnant women. Oh, really? I didn't hear that. A very lethal virus for pregnant women. And notice how he talks about the two waves. The two waves. Yeah, that way they can get that kind of thinking in the public mind. Because if there's two, there could be three. And as you know, it's always the third wave of the tsunami is the one that really kills. It's the lucky three. So keep listening as he starts to lay out his true agenda. And in fact, the military, the Department of Defense and the NIH are looking or developing a program where they would either come up with antibodies or convalescent
33:31 serum from people who had other people have been infected and recovered and now have really high antibody titers of it and use that as a potential treatment for people who were at severe risk of dying of that infection. This sounds like a science fiction story. This is the lead researcher for vaccines from the Mayo Clinic, one of the most prestigious clinics in the world. It continues. Pregnant women might be one group of those individuals. Yeah, and if they have, did they do that research? Is that something that's ongoing? The Navy, right? The Navy, here's where it comes. Interestingly enough, we had a teleconference about this yesterday. Listen to the... We had a teleconference because I'm really... Interestingly enough. It's interesting you bring that up. And this is ongoing work that the Navy is funding and the NIH.
34:24 Well, I'm glad somebody's working on it. Yes, thank you, Dr. Kiki. Good. You know, of course, the whole... Here it comes. The thing that causes me to gnash my teeth and causes me a lot of anxiousness is that we develop these vaccines in higher and higher technologic ways that are hard to communicate to the public. Ah! Hey, you stupid slave! What is he saying? Listen, listen, you are, you know, this is high science, this is high technology. High science. It's very difficult to communicate this to the public. People are idiots. You need to shut up and sit down, slave. Right. So the more high tech it is and the more science fiction-y that it sounds... The more science fiction it is! Skip logic, he sounds like.
35:19 The harder it is to communicate to the public and the more suspicion they have as to the safety of that vaccine and the more problem we have getting them to take that vaccine. So here is where the intersection of psychology and human behavior dramatically impacts the science and the health of the public. Okay, here it comes. Here's where we all go wrong, John. And also fear about the military funding research projects. Sure, the military, the government. I'm sure there are tons of conspiracy theories that'll come out of it. Oh, raising my hand. Hello,
35:58 Dr. Kiki, I'm raising my hand. I'm the conspiracy theory over here. Oh yeah, we hear these all the time, including some that are really outrageous. I mean, there was a theory floating around that the government was pushing something in his throat. Listen to his theory. No, that's a sign that this guy is just about to lie. Oh really? No, clear his throat just before he said this. Listen, go back, listen back to that. Oh, good catch. Okay, but listen to what he says. ...was putting something in certain lots of vaccines and somehow funneling these only to members of minority communities to either make them sick or to decrease fertility rates. Had you heard that?
36:47 No, and neither are not. He's the guy. We're the conspiracy guys. I mean, come on. I had never heard this stuff. I never heard that. Kill, kill bad people. Here comes. Oh no. This is, this is a crazy thing. thinking and but how do you combat that sort of thinking and an interesting book has been written about here's the plug this general concept of sort of risk and statistical literacy and it's called innumeracy uh-huh so it turns out the numeracy so it turns out that a lot of the public are innumerate
37:28 What a clog of crap! Hey enumerate! I can barely pronounce it myself. What is this guy thinking? Enumerate! Enumerate summa cum laude! It's unbelievable! These people are enumerants! John, you enumerate slut! Well I thought denialists at least had some legs. No, I like enumerate, that's much better. Which means that you can't calculate risk based upon numbers. That's what it means, right? Enumerate. I don't know, is that what it means? Beats me. Well, you want to hear him explain it? No, I don't care, I think he's an idiot.
38:16 I've lost all respect for the man. Of course, and for the Mayo Clinic in general. This is an outrage. An outrage, I tell you. Anyway, so does that offset my watching George Bayhardt? Is he talking about viruses for smoking and things that these other, I'm sorry, vaccines for smoking? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, these guys are... People aren't suspicious about this sort of thing? Oh yeah, yeah, of course. Virus, I'm sorry, I keep saying virus, but maybe virus caused smoking, I don't think so. Vaccine. But I mean, what is there to cure? It's bullshit. I mean, what is the, what is the, uh, what's it, what, what dead bacteria or, or attenuated viruses are in the vaccine that stops you from smoking? Oh wait, I'm an enumerate. What would I know? Yeah, he's, uh, his main research actually is an anthrax vaccine. Yeah. But anthrax is not a virus.
39:11 It's not like something you pick up, it's something you get infected with. It's a spore. Yeah. So, you know, it's like that's not really a vaccine. No, I think it is. Oh, it is? Okay. I like this. I like the phobia vaccine best. You know what they'll have? They'll have an anti-innumerate vaccine. Well, then good luck with that. All you enumerates lying up here. I guess only the people in the north will be able to pronounce the word. I'm sorry everybody, I didn't mean to say that. Have you been reading more of your Family of Secrets book? Yeah, you know, it kind of craps out.