Episode 186 · Sunday, 28 March 2010

Just Give Us Your Cash

Global financial scandals at the Vatican and fraudulent green energy certifications collide with pharmaceutical propaganda and the suspicious disappearance of a sovereign wealth fund chief.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 186

About this episode

The Vatican Bank faces a massive money laundering investigation involving 180 million euros and a major Italian bank while simultaneously fighting a 1.3 billion dollar insurance lawsuit. These financial scandals coincide with the media's intense focus on PopeGate abuse stories, suggesting a coordinated effort to distract from the Holy See's potential insolvency. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze how these narratives are deployed to manage public perception of the world's oldest financial institution.

Domestic economic failures come to light as 80 percent of the 2 billion dollars in U.S. stimulus funds for wind power flows to foreign manufacturers like Iberdrola in Spain and various firms in China. Meanwhile, the GAO exposes the Energy Star program as fraudulent after successfully certifying a gas-powered alarm clock and a space heater made of flypaper. In the pharmaceutical sector, Merck is accused of using university newspapers to market the Gardasil vaccine by linking oral sex to throat cancer, while the discovery of porcine circovirus in human vaccines raises questions about intentional contamination to create new markets.

David Ernie receives a knighthood for his consistent financial support as the show deconstructs a Cisco commercial that markets high-tech police surveillance as a community benefit. The hosts mock the failure of Earth Hour in Los Angeles and discuss the suspicious glider crash of Sheikh Ahmed bin Zayed Al Nahyan in Morocco. The episode concludes with Senator Mary Landrieu defending her Louisiana Purchase healthcare deal against accusations from John McCain.


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CHAPTER 01 / 31 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 186, Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Introduction

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open Episode 186 of the No Agenda show on March 28, 2010. The hosts exchange greetings from their respective locations in Southern California and Northern Silicon Valley. They briefly discuss show notes accessibility at noagendashow.com and mention the practice of listeners adding producer credits to their email signatures.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· media assassination· no agenda

00:01 I'm an amusing typer. Adam Curry, John C. DeVore. It's March 28th, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 186. This is no agenda. Tea-bagging the coffee party from the hilltop watchtower, crackpot command center, Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And the sun is shining again here in Northern Silicon Valley. And I'm shining too. I'm John C. DeVore actually. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! In the morning to you, John. And in the morning to everybody. It's nice to know that you're shining. Yeah, I know, I need some makeup. Hold on. John. See. Dvorak. Dvorak. What's that? Twit. I get no spam. Dvorak.org slash blog.

00:58 When did you do that thing? I never did that. That's like a podcast, a video podcast you did. Somebody else did it. Yeah, except you appear in it. In the show notes, noagendashow.com. I just thought it was so funny. So what do you got here for your top of the news item? I got some good stuff. I think before we hit top of the news maybe we should talk about our executive producers and before we even do that I'd like to mention that I've been receiving emails throughout the week like I usually do from people sending ideas and links and stories and I noticed that another great thing people are doing is they're putting their producer or executive producer or associate executive producer credit into their email signature.

01:44 Yeah, I noticed that too. That's a good idea. It's great because you know then you know just as you email people around the globe people are gonna pick up on it and either say hey what that's what's that about or Hey, wow, you're an executive producer or hey in the morning. It's really it's a good idea for all of the above Yes, who do we have as our executive producer and or associate John have our executive producer is David Ernie okay, who's been Faithfully donating he's also at the top of the list and he also gets a knighthood by the way He's up to he's past the limit and

CHAPTER 02 / 31 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits, David Ernie Knighthood, and Birthday Donations

The hosts acknowledge executive producer David Ernie for his faithful donations and announce his upcoming knighthood. They discuss various listener contributions, including a $240.10 donation from Charles Walker and a birthday-themed donation from special education teacher Elise Gribos. The segment highlights the "karma" of donating to the show, noting that David Ernie secured a new job shortly after becoming a founding producer.

david ernie· charles walker· elise gribos· knighthood· donations

00:58 When did you do that thing? I never did that. That's like a podcast, a video podcast you did. Somebody else did it. Yeah, except you appear in it. In the show notes, noagendashow.com. I just thought it was so funny. So what do you got here for your top of the news item? I got some good stuff. I think before we hit top of the news maybe we should talk about our executive producers and before we even do that I'd like to mention that I've been receiving emails throughout the week like I usually do from people sending ideas and links and stories and I noticed that another great thing people are doing is they're putting their producer or executive producer or associate executive producer credit into their email signature.

01:44 Yeah, I noticed that too. That's a good idea. It's great because you know then you know just as you email people around the globe people are gonna pick up on it and either say hey what that's what's that about or Hey, wow, you're an executive producer or hey in the morning. It's really it's a good idea for all of the above Yes, who do we have as our executive producer and or associate John have our executive producer is David Ernie okay, who's been Faithfully donating he's also at the top of the list and he also gets a knighthood by the way He's up to he's past the limit and

02:22 He said he got laid off before becoming a founding executive producer for the stream and only two weeks later he got a job. I'm telling you, I'd hate to say donate because you'll get work but the karma seems to be exactly that. Donate to KnowAgenda works he says. Jobs, jobs, jobs. Let's all donate for jobs. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. So he's the executive producer and then our associate, we got three associate executive producers including Charles Walker who was called out by his 15 year old son Forrest last week who called him out as a douchebag. Hi John and Adam, the donation is a token of my appreciation for the show and to get my son Forrest who called me out as a douchebag off my back.

03:13 The amount donated $240.10 is a buck for each episode plus $55.10. Oh nice. Which means we have to make sure he gets on the list. Well you know what, this is gonna go wrong because I'm sure the dad at the end of the day can afford more and he can out douchebag his son and that'll be a never ending, he's gonna crush his kid. I'm also sending a $5 a month donation for both Forrest and myself. Wow, that's great. And then we have 200 bucks from, you're gonna have to pronounce this, from Eindhoven, Netherlands, Joost, J-O-O-S-T. Joost? Joost.

03:52 uh... sheepish and which i think he's to tease tried again i like that it was close i'm not going to try to get you pronounce it your sister shipper hang oh yeah that's not a good soon tight so uh... cool from anything that's been for you see some regular and then we have from virginia beach another day police agree bus g r y b o s at least and this is a good one uh... and i'm assuming is the asia I'm a special education teacher from Virginia Beach, and I love what you guys do Recently my little brother called me out as a douchebag and I'd like to go on the record and say I'm not My little brother know that I'm donating his birthday money. Happy birthday

04:37 Hey, do you want to uh, we could actually uh, we could actually do that. That's a really good idea. The birthday thing? Yeah, let's uh... It's your birthday, birthday. On Noah's Jenga. Happy birthday, birthday! Happy birthday, birthday! So you thought you were getting a bike? You thought you were getting a... He's getting nothing. He's getting nothing. He's getting a song. He's getting a song. Elise Gribos, I... Do we know her brother's name? Well, that was from last week. I didn't have to look it up. So, no. Not offhand. Well, Elise Gribos' brother, happy birthday from Noah Jenner, my friend! It's your birthday, yeah!

CHAPTER 03 / 31 Discussion

No Agenda Groupie Chelsea, Rosacea Medical Tangent

A listener named Chelsea from Edmonton, Alberta, is designated as the official No Agenda groupie after sending in a photo. The conversation shifts into a medical tangent regarding rosacea, with warnings about the condition becoming disfiguring if left untreated. Reference is made to W.C. Fields' nose as an extreme example of the ailment's progression.

chelsea· edmonton· groupie· rosacea· w.c. fields

05:19 So anyway, yes, Jeff Smith hits another one for us. The JeffSmith.com who next week I think will have to become Sir Jeff. Oh yeah, I think so too. I mean considering all of the... You might want to do it this week because we do have another night that we'll bring up later. No, no, no, because I'm sure that if... Here's how it works. If we do a knighthood for Sir Jeff, he'll probably do a knighthood song for himself. Oh, you mean as opposed to your hacking the arms off the guys tune? We can do that too. I don't know, I just thought Jeff might come up with something better. Yeah, do you think he might? You think? Duh! Alright, let's get to some topics. Wait, wait, wait, I've got one more thing. What? Yeah, one more thing. We have an official No Agenda groupie. Oh yeah, the groupie. Yes, we have Chelsea from Edmonton, Alberta.

06:15 And she sent us a picture which will be in the show notes for this program at noagendashow.com. She has many of the attributes necessary for a groupie, if you know what I mean. And she says she'd be very happy to send out pictures to help us get donations. Well there you have it. I know that I saw a picture, she's kind of rosy-cheeked. Oh yeah, now that I'm looking at her face, yes. Yeah, she might want to, no offense to rosy cheeked women out there, but my wife went through this. In fact, a friend of mine had it and I pointed it out to her and she just thought it was a complexion issue, but she had rosacea, which is a, it looks fine when you first get it because it makes your rosy cheek, but it becomes, it's actually disfiguring.

07:05 W.C. Fields nose is an example of what happens. But your cheeks do not look like W.C. Fields nose. I'm just telling you, if left unchecked, if you happen to have rosacea, you end up getting disfigured by it. It's just a problem. Only you, only the buzzkill John C. Dvorak can bring me down from a groupie story. I mean, it's unbelievable. I'm just saying she should at least talk to her and see, make sure she doesn't have it. It's not, it's very treatable. It's not a big deal. John, John. And by the way, a lot of women who have their first baby end up with it right afterwards. It's a very strange ailment. Yeah, well. What? This is a happy moment. We have a groupie. Oh, a happy groupie. Okay. Well, anyway, we appreciate having more groupies. The fact that we have been doing this show for three years and we have one groupie says it all. This is a good deal. Anyway, Charles Walker, Elise Griebos, and of course, David Ernie. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Thank you very much for being the No Agenda Executive Producers.

CHAPTER 04 / 31 Discussion

Green Technology Job Hype, Foreign Wind Turbine Manufacturing

A news report from NBC Bay Area indicates that green technology is failing to reduce California's unemployment rate despite significant economic hype. Further analysis reveals that nearly 80% of the $2 billion in U.S. stimulus money for wind power has gone to foreign manufacturers in China and Spain. Spanish company Iberdrola is identified as a primary recipient of these funds while domestic turbine workers face layoffs.

california· unemployment· green technology· wind turbines· stimulus money

08:12 Order! Shut up! It'll help you get work. You can put it in your email signature on your resume and we'll vouch for you and we appreciate the support. Knighthood's coming later in our Knighthood segment for the show. John, you seem to be so jacked up. Why don't you just go right ahead with your news? There's a lot of bad stuff in the news. Let's do a start with something that I've been putting off because we for some reason never get around it now that you're gonna give me the opening I Want you to play the clip? Let's see water on fire. No, no water on fire. I like to do but no green jobs Okay, just right off. No setup. Just go straight. I just play it The forecast says that California's unemployment rate will not drop back to single digits for another year fueled by a growth in manufacturing agriculture and shipping and warehousing notice something missing

09:09 NBC Bay Area's Garvin Thomas is here with what much hyped industry is not on that list and who says it should be. Garvin. Tom, green technology is what is not on the list. The author of the Anderson Forecast says there just doesn't seem to be enough demand for jobs like solar panel installers or wind turbine workers to make a dent in the state's unemployment rate. He says that all the hype that green is going to drive the economy, well, it's just not true. Duh! Duh! Well here, let's take it another level. Let me just read from a... this has been underreported in this but it's been floating around for the last, almost the last two months.

09:48 I'll just read right here. Nearly $2 billion, that's with a B, in money from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, TARP, has been spent on wind power, funding the creation of enough new wind farms to power 2.4 million homes over the past year. But the study found that nearly 80% of that money has gone to foreign manufacturers of wind turbines. According to our estimates, about 6,000 jobs have been created overseas and maybe a couple of hundred have been created in the US. It's going to China, it's going to Spain, it's going everywhere, but it's not going to Americans at all. And this whole thing is just a giant scam. I think it's even worse, John. I was hearing about the tax credits for green manufacturing.

10:34 And so apparently if you buy or materials that go into green industry, no sales tax will be charged. And of course, you know, what is materials that go into green industry? Well, is it like copper wire for wind turbines? It could be anything. And there's even an unclarity as to exactly what green... Unclarity. Unclarity. Hey, I had me some high school. It's unclear as to exactly what goes into green industry. And so they're giving hundreds of billions of tax breaks or hundreds of billions in tax breaks to stuff that we can't even define.

11:20 Iberdrola, one of the world's largest operators of renewable energy worldwide, is based in Spain and has received the most U.S. stimulus money, $577 million alone. It buys some of its turbines from another Spanish manufacturer, Gamisa, which has a U.S. connection. Gamisa has two facilities that manufactures turbine blades in Pennsylvania, but the company said the market forced it to temporarily lay off 100 workers. so we have a negative input. The ABC News affiliate down in San Diego went to one of the offices getting some of this money that apparently nobody has bothered to overcheck him out. They went to the mall where the office was and the place was the American company. It was empty. No office there. It doesn't surprise you, does it really? No, of course not. But it's not... You'd think somebody would mention it. Oh no, of course not. We're way too busy with Jesse James. Jesse James!

CHAPTER 05 / 31 Discussion

Jesse James, Sandra Bullock, Media Narratives of Violence

The hosts critique the media coverage surrounding the Jesse James and Sandra Bullock infidelity scandal. They observe a trend where female news anchors and commentators openly discuss using physical violence, such as baseball bats, against men who cheat. The discussion contrasts this with the lack of public outrage regarding these violent rhetorical expressions on television.

jesse james· sandra bullock· tiger woods· joy behar· media bias

12:14 And Sandra Bullock. Hey, you know, I've noticed something about that whole Jesse James-Sandra Bullock thing. I know it's total real news, but there's something really frightening going on about this. What? Over the weekend I watched a lot of CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, and of course you have the Weekend Crew on, so it's all info babes. Some of which, by the way, who have actual expression because they haven't been through the Botox treatment yet. But all these women are sitting there and of course they tease the story for 20 minutes. Coming up news on Jesse James is another woman is coming. and they finally get to the segment and then basically, oh here's a journalist and she's going to talk about, well yes we found out that he had another woman come forward about Justice James, and then they'll cretch together and it's always the same thing. It's always, I would have beat him up with a baseball bat, yeah I would have kicked his ass. It's really violent. Oh yeah, yeah you're right. I haven't

13:14 It hasn't come to the top of my thinking, but you're right, I think they've all done this. In fact, there's something going on that's peculiar in all these situations, including the mean-spirited porn star who had the affair with Tiger Woods. She's on every news show. And I think somebody pointed out, here's a woman who has sex on camera, and her feelings are hurt. But it's like... But it's very specific that women are outraged and so angry, but they continuously talk about violence against these men. And then, you know, even Sandra Bullock, of course, she foolishly, when the whole Tiger Woods thing came out, which by the way, I think is planned, I'm thinking now, more on that later, she said, oh, Elon didn't do enough for the golf club, I would have taken a baseball bat to his head.

14:12 It's like, why are women, if men talk like that, when a woman cheats on a guy, it's like, crap, right? And gee, that's never happened. Yeah, or... I think the only time men really will get violent is, you know, when they're in divorce. You know, like, ah, the witch, the bitch, ah, you know, it would be cheaper to shoot her. That's probably what you might hear, but when it comes to cheating, you never hear men say, I'd beat her up, I'd take a baseball bat to her head. Can you imagine the outrage? Can you imagine the outrage if that was on television, if someone actually said that?

CHAPTER 06 / 31 Discussion

Earth Hour 2010, Global Climate Change Activism

The hosts discuss Earth Hour, a global event on March 27 where participants turn off lights for one hour to signal support for climate change action. They mock the effectiveness of the event, noting that major landmarks and cities like Los Angeles showed no visible change in light levels. The segment questions the PR entities behind the movement and its actual impact on energy consumption.

earth hour· climate change· rolling blackouts· white house· activism

14:47 Yeah, there'd be outrage, but nobody seems to be outraged by these dingbats. By these women doing it, yeah! And it's Joy Behard, oh my god! That's the worst! Wait a minute, you've given yourself away. You actually watched Joy Behard's show? Well, I told you, I gotta see what the people are being programmed with. You give me crap about this stuff. Hey, by the way, play Earth Hour, we missed it. Yeah, that was actually very high on my list to talk about today. On March 27th, 8.30pm, millions around the world will turn off their lights for one whole hour all over the world. Earth Hour! It's time for America to lead on clean technologies and clean jobs because we care about our planet and our country. Let the world know you want action on climate change. Turn out for Earth Hour. It's simple.

15:43 you Earth Hour, March 27th, 8.30pm. Yeah, I think we missed it last year too. 8.30pm? What, Pacific Standard, Eastern Standard, Mexican Time? No, it's supposed to be 8.30 everywhere you go. It's supposed to be like a rolling, a rolling thing. A rolling blackout? Yeah, exactly. It's a rolling blackout. Of course, you know, it's interesting. Does the White House turn off? I don't think so. You see Parliament... Yeah, turn off your security while you're at it. I really... It's a very weird thing.

CHAPTER 07 / 31 Discussion

Daylight Savings Time, Russian Time Zone Reductions

A discussion on the manipulation of time covers British parliamentary debates about moving clocks ahead two hours and Russia's decision to reduce its time zones from eleven down to nine. The hosts express skepticism regarding the official reasons for these changes, suggesting there may be hidden motives behind the "theft of time."

daylight savings time· russia· time zones· parliament· global warming

16:20 And it's almost as bad as all this news about daylight savings time. You know, the British are back. I think this happens every year. The British get in this big fight in Parliament saying, you know, we should move the clocks ahead two hours instead of one hour. I think actually they sprang forward. Yeah, let's be different. No, seriously. They're like, it'll save billions of dollars in global global warming reduction. And then Russia actually cut a number of time zones. You know, they have 11 time zones in Russia because the country is so vast. They've actually cut it down to nine. They just took away... I'm telling you, somewhere, this theft of time, there's something about it and it stinks. I don't trust it. These guys know something we don't. There's something about stealing these hours and changing it all around that we're just not clued into.

17:16 Well, I don't know. All I know is that I didn't turn my, I forgot about this thing. I was going to mention it on Thursday's show and then we missed it because I think today's the 28th. We missed it by a day. I stood here. Did you look out the window? You have a view of it. Yeah, I have a perfect view of all, I can see all the way down to the ocean actually. So I see all of downtown Los Angeles. Well, John, If there was a flicker of light, it would have been something. It was like absolutely nothing. I didn't see anything happen yesterday. And the W still had their blue searchlights going. Yeah, it was like nothing turned off. Are you kidding me? Well, who dreams up this crap? I mean, we didn't actually, we took this so unseriously, another wacky word, that we didn't even look into who's behind it. There's obviously someone's behind it.

CHAPTER 08 / 31 Discussion

PopeGate, Vatican Bank Money Laundering Investigation

The Vatican Bank is reportedly under investigation for a money laundering scheme involving 180 million euros and a major Italian bank. Simultaneously, the Vatican faces a $1.3 billion insurance lawsuit related to bad debts. The hosts speculate that the "PopeGate" abuse scandals may be emphasized in the media to distract from these massive financial legal troubles.

vatican bank· money laundering· italy· pope benedict xvi· insurance lawsuit

18:06 You know, and this commercial by the way is extremely annoying. I hate commercials where they go from kid to kid to kid to kid to kid to kid. Each one of them saying like one half of a sentence about something as if there's some sort of, you know, the whole thing just it's fair. It's I don't like it. No, I didn't look into it. I'm sure if we looked at the website, I'm sure there's some huge PR company behind it for some Some kind of men some kind of they got the global warming mentioned to keep that alive of course Oh, man, and we could talk about that every single week if we wanted to yes Thank God We don't and what we're not going to talk about because I think it's actually covering up something much much more interesting It's Pope Gate which no one has coined it that yet. I don't understand why it's so obvious Pope Gate Let's just say it right here first now there's a Dutch

18:54 Dutch Bishop has come out with reports of abuse. This just doesn't stop. The Pope just can't seem to get a break, as it were. But the real news, and I don't know if this is covering it up or not, the Vatican Bank is under investigation for a money laundering scheme involving one of Italy's largest banks. The one transaction so far identified is a 180 million euro transaction And this goes all the way up to the top of the Vatican Bank. And of course, that's a lot of what the Vatican is about, is their banking system. Let's not forget that. But there's actually a billion dollar insurance lawsuit now against the Vatican. A billion.

19:46 Really? Yeah, 1.3 billion of bad debts and so there's all these insurance companies are jumping on board. Very interesting that they turn up the heat on PopeGate when there's a billion dollars at stake. I wonder if, you know, it just makes you wonder, is one trying to cover up the other? Let's just throw a couple of these old geezers under the bus so no one talks about the real shit that's going on. It's possible. Yeah, absolutely. All right. He's got somebody sending me something, sorry. So, I guess that's it for today's show. We'll be back again on Thursday. I was waiting for you. There's another no agenda. There's something else that happened Saturday as I was watching through the real news. Mickey was out working so, you know, Hollywood and Vine.

CHAPTER 09 / 31 Discussion

Philadelphia Flash Mobs, Police Response, Civil Disobedience

A CBS News report details violent flash mobs in Philadelphia involving thousands of teenagers, leading to arrests and police intervention. The hosts analyze the authorities' fear of these spontaneous gatherings and the involvement of the FBI in tracking social media coordination. They criticize the aggressive rhetoric used by police officials toward the public and parents.

philadelphia· flash mobs· fbi· police commissioner· civil disobedience

20:45 She's gonna come in here and beat me with a baseball bat. Not sure she's in the gym. Listening to the show. Something happened that is really bad. The youth of America. There's really, really horrible stuff happening. Listen to this, John. This report. This is really, really bad that's going on. We can't handle this. Oh, crap. I was... YouTube... Nice timing. Yeah, YouTube is doing fricking pre-rolls now. Since when did that happen? All right, here we go. And the flash mob, well it's a group of people who use social networking sites to create instant gatherings in public places. The original idea was just for fun, but that has changed. CBS News correspondent Manuel Gallegos has more.

21:44 This was the scene as a flash mob suddenly took over South Street in Philadelphia last Saturday night. Thousands of teens converged in a gathering that turned violent. There were fights, assaults including one on... And by the way, you see a couple of kids like jumping around like pogo dancing. ...a police officer and several arrests. It was the fifth rowdy flash mob in Philly in the last year. Stop the stupidity. Cut it out. That's the police commissioner. Listen to this. Listen to what these guys are saying. Does he talk like this? No, listen, listen. It gets really good. Cut it out. We're not messing around. The flash mob phenomenon started about... He sounds like the guy on the family guy show, the black guy. He is that guy. Listen to... It gets better. It gets better.

22:30 Seven years ago, text, tweets and Facebook are used to spread the word about impromptu gatherings that are sometimes playful, even absurd. Like this mass pillow fight in San Francisco, a snowball fight in DC. It's the combination of technology as an enabling gathering device. That by the way is Larry Magdid. CBS News technology analyst is like a Larry's a cool guy, but he's a hundred years old and he's trying to explain flash mob the technology of flash mob ice and Ultimately people coming together in the old-fashioned way to have a good time But lately flash mobs have become more aggressive in Boston, New Jersey and especially in Philadelphia where victims of Saturday's assault want police to take action

23:16 It's just gonna get worse if they don't and I'm glad they had the conference and see what happens. City officials are working with the FBI to track future flash mobs and warning parents to keep a closer eye on their kids. You had them, you raise them, you take care of them. When they come to me, I got something else for them. That's right! When they kick your kids ass! When they kick it ass! So this is very interesting to me. Because first of all, I'm looking at these flash mobs and I'm not really seeing, you know, it's not like people are overturning cars and setting shit on fire. It's a bunch of, actually a lot of girls, surprisingly, who are just flash mobbing.

23:54 And, uh... Yeah, they're going out to dance. But this, but what's interesting is this scares the authorities. They're really afraid of this. This is what you're, this is, they're like freaking out and we're gonna get the FBI to track people and, you know, this is going to become an illegal activity. And I say... This is the ultimate civil disobedience because of course you're not doing anything wrong by just flash mobbing. We need a lot more of this. This freaks them out. And we need a flash mob on the South side and then the cops show up there, we disperse, then boom, we go over to the North side, the East side, the West side. Freak them out.

24:31 I love this. This is, you watch John, this is something really big. And kids, the minute you say- It's been going on for years. I know, but now the cops are like freaking out because they're just doing it for no reason. You know other than maybe they hate what's happening in their cities their towns and everything is closed and messed up And they're just like flash mob. I love this. We got nothing else to do in a lot of places We need more flash mob the cities have decided to just load themselves up with overpaid bureaucrats Sometimes that went like went bankrupt like Vallejo. They had fire

25:08 people, firemen and just civil servants getting $250,000 to $400,000 a year plus a full pension. Meanwhile, they're just sucking the city dry. Of course, they went broke and bankrupt. But which is going to happen in a lot of places. And they don't have any community centers or they don't have anything for kids to do anymore. It's just it's and there's no jobs for kids so they can't get tired working all day. I mean, it's just pathetic, this situation. And then the schools aren't teaching them anything. They're a bunch of, you know, essentially just babysitting centers. It's ridiculous. Right. But do you hear these cops like you, your kids, if you don't keep them in check, I got some form. I'm going to kick their ass. Shut up, slave.

25:50 Yeah, that guy should be fired on the spot. It was two different guys by the way. They should both be fired. Yeah. Slave, shut up slave! It's not a job of the police department to be threatening the public. It's exactly what it is. It's exactly what it is. I know it's threatening the public. I mean why is the police department threatening the public? Because that's their job. If you get a terrorist crime, go arrest somebody. Don't threaten the public. Oh yeah, but this is what it is. Slave, shut up slave. Slave. Well, on a lighter note, let's talk about marijuana. We're going to talk about marijuana. I got a deconstruction on the marijuana thing that's quite interesting, but I got this story that floated through. You probably got it too, because anything to sell these crazy vaccines, oral sex linked to head cancer. I know this is great. So this, of course, is to sell. What is head cancer? It's head and throat cancer. My head is my head.

CHAPTER 10 / 31 Discussion

Gardasil Vaccine Marketing, Oral Sex Cancer Claims

The pharmaceutical industry is criticized for marketing the Gardasil vaccine by linking oral sex to head and throat cancer. Reports suggest Merck is financing university newspapers to run public service announcements disguised as ads. The hosts examine the financial shift toward vaccines in the pharmaceutical "pipeline" and the lack of insurance co-payments for these treatments in new healthcare legislation.

gardasil· hpv· merck· vaccines· head cancer

26:48 But notice, this is Gardasil, so of course they have to come up with a reason to sell this horrible vaccine which has been hurting young girls for HPV cervical cancer. So I guess the way they're selling it now is, well, if you perform oral sex on a girl with cervical cancer, well you get a head cancer of course, it makes total sense. And by the way, has not hand cancer and finger cancer risen recently, John? Where are those reports? That'll be coming up next. If they don't sell it with this, they're gonna have to come up with something new. A tongue cancer? Oh my god. Tongue cancer could be, yeah. I'm looking for the actual report because these guys are serious about it. I mean, they're actually serious the way they report it.

27:34 This growth seems to be linked to cancers caused by the human papillomavirus, scientists said in a report in the British Medical Journal. Two vaccines, Cervarix and Gardasil, can prevent HPV, which causes virtually all cases of cervical cancer. Really? The second most common cancer in women. It's not true, by the way. That doesn't sound right. It's not. It's all a lie. It's an absolute lie. And these guys are spending money like nobody else's business. I got an email from Christopher, who is a political science major at the University of Washington in Seattle. He said about a week ago, one of the editors of the school paper wrote about how we as a school had so few cases of swine flu.

28:23 and how it must have been because everyone was so careful to wash their hands, etc. Not because the disease was not really a big issue, obviously. Anyway, he says, I dismissed it until a few days later when the paper ran a half-page ad which was masked as a public service announcement for Gardasil. He says, indeed, Merck is actually financing the school paper. Financing it. Wow. They're buying ads in university newspapers, which is... Has that always been commercial? Yeah. Okay. So they're smart. They're out there like, hey, we got to sell this. Kids, you're going to get a head cancer. They should jack up the rates for those guys. They should refuse them. This is not a school paper editors and publishers jack up the rates. Triple it. They don't know the difference.

29:14 But this is this whole thing with vaccines that's being pushed. We've done a lot of research and anyone can do this on the big pharmaceutical websites. You want to download the CEO's presentation, which is usually a PowerPoint. The best ones are when they present to the financial industry. So it'll be like a PowerPoint for the JPMorgan Pharmaceutical Conference. And throughout all of them it's like, oh, you know, the next wave for us, the pipeline is vaccines. Vaccines is what it's going to be all about. Then you look at the health care bill and you see that there will be no co-payment for vaccines. Those will be 100% insured or insured to the max. You never have to put in a co-payment for that.

CHAPTER 11 / 31 Discussion

Porcine Circovirus, Vaccine Contamination Theories

A discussion regarding the discovery of porcine circovirus in human vaccines leads to a theory about intentional spreading of non-lethal viruses to create markets for new vaccines. The hosts reference a PubMed announcement about a newly developed vaccine for the pig virus appearing shortly after the contamination was reported.

porcine circovirus· baxter· vaccines· pubmed· contamination

30:02 Free shots for everybody! Well Mikey actually sent something very interesting. Remember we talked on Thursday about this, what was it called, the pig virus that was mixed in with, here it is, the the circovirus type 2 and type 1? Yeah. That was mixed up in which vaccine was that mixed up in John? I don't remember. It was mixed up with something. Well, anyway, well listen to this. So it was they put the they pulled this product off the market because of this non non or this vibe this pig virus that's not lethal to human beings but Mikey found on PubMed.gov a little announcement

30:48 that a vaccine against porcine circovirus has been developed and ready to go into trial. So the way I see it is maybe they were trying to spread this porcine circovirus. Yeah, this has been a theory we've had before when Baxter dropped the bird flu of all things in a virus for some unknown reason. Oh, it was a mistake. Yeah, so they so they accidentally make this mistake again yet right on the heels of it is a vaccine against this so-called virus that is not not lethal to human beings. So just so what do we know? What do we learn from this exercise? Well, here's here's what I've got. What I've got is that the whole

CHAPTER 12 / 31 Discussion

Mayo Clinic Vaccine Research, Innumeracy Concept

Dr. Greg Poland of the Mayo Clinic discusses the challenges of communicating high-tech vaccine science to a suspicious public during an interview with Dr. Kiki. Poland introduces the term "innumeracy" to describe the public's alleged inability to calculate statistical risk. The hosts deconstruct his comments as elitist and dismissive of legitimate concerns regarding military-funded medical research.

mayo clinic· greg poland· h1n1· innumeracy· dr. kiki

31:37 Actually, I said the stream went dead check it. No No, we're as far as I know we're still up. Okay. I have a soundbite And this is this is a new meme coming in John that you and I absolutely are and this has to do with vaccines So, you know, of course, there's a lot of you know, we went from anti-vaxxers to do I have it? Do I have to find the meme? It'll be pretty freaking apparent. This actually is from Dr. Kiki's science hour. Oh, Dr. Kiki. Yes, Dr. Kiki. And she was interviewing Greg Poland. Greg Poland is from the, he's at the Vaccine Research Center at the Mayo Clinic. It turned out that this pandemic H1N1 virus that we've just had two waves of turned out to be a very lethal virus for pregnant women. Oh, really?

32:35 Where was that reported, John? Play it again? Well, this is not the meme, but listen to what he says. It turned out that this pandemic H1N1 virus that we've just had two waves of... Two waves of? Turned out to be a very lethal virus for pregnant women. Oh, really? I didn't hear that. A very lethal virus for pregnant women. And notice how he talks about the two waves. The two waves. Yeah, that way they can get that kind of thinking in the public mind. Because if there's two, there could be three. And as you know, it's always the third wave of the tsunami is the one that really kills. It's the lucky three. So keep listening as he starts to lay out his true agenda. And in fact, the military, the Department of Defense and the NIH are looking or developing a program where they would either come up with antibodies or convalescent

33:31 serum from people who had other people have been infected and recovered and now have really high antibody titers of it and use that as a potential treatment for people who were at severe risk of dying of that infection. This sounds like a science fiction story. This is the lead researcher for vaccines from the Mayo Clinic, one of the most prestigious clinics in the world. It continues. Pregnant women might be one group of those individuals. Yeah, and if they have, did they do that research? Is that something that's ongoing? The Navy, right? The Navy, here's where it comes. Interestingly enough, we had a teleconference about this yesterday. Listen to the... We had a teleconference because I'm really... Interestingly enough. It's interesting you bring that up. And this is ongoing work that the Navy is funding and the NIH.

34:24 Well, I'm glad somebody's working on it. Yes, thank you, Dr. Kiki. Good. You know, of course, the whole... Here it comes. The thing that causes me to gnash my teeth and causes me a lot of anxiousness is that we develop these vaccines in higher and higher technologic ways that are hard to communicate to the public. Ah! Hey, you stupid slave! What is he saying? Listen, listen, you are, you know, this is high science, this is high technology. High science. It's very difficult to communicate this to the public. People are idiots. You need to shut up and sit down, slave. Right. So the more high tech it is and the more science fiction-y that it sounds... The more science fiction it is! Skip logic, he sounds like.

35:19 The harder it is to communicate to the public and the more suspicion they have as to the safety of that vaccine and the more problem we have getting them to take that vaccine. So here is where the intersection of psychology and human behavior dramatically impacts the science and the health of the public. Okay, here it comes. Here's where we all go wrong, John. And also fear about the military funding research projects. Sure, the military, the government. I'm sure there are tons of conspiracy theories that'll come out of it. Oh, raising my hand. Hello,

35:58 Dr. Kiki, I'm raising my hand. I'm the conspiracy theory over here. Oh yeah, we hear these all the time, including some that are really outrageous. I mean, there was a theory floating around that the government was pushing something in his throat. Listen to his theory. No, that's a sign that this guy is just about to lie. Oh really? No, clear his throat just before he said this. Listen, go back, listen back to that. Oh, good catch. Okay, but listen to what he says. ...was putting something in certain lots of vaccines and somehow funneling these only to members of minority communities to either make them sick or to decrease fertility rates. Had you heard that?

36:47 No, and neither are not. He's the guy. We're the conspiracy guys. I mean, come on. I had never heard this stuff. I never heard that. Kill, kill bad people. Here comes. Oh no. This is, this is a crazy thing. thinking and but how do you combat that sort of thinking and an interesting book has been written about here's the plug this general concept of sort of risk and statistical literacy and it's called innumeracy uh-huh so it turns out the numeracy so it turns out that a lot of the public are innumerate

37:28 What a clog of crap! Hey enumerate! I can barely pronounce it myself. What is this guy thinking? Enumerate! Enumerate summa cum laude! It's unbelievable! These people are enumerants! John, you enumerate slut! Well I thought denialists at least had some legs. No, I like enumerate, that's much better. Which means that you can't calculate risk based upon numbers. That's what it means, right? Enumerate. I don't know, is that what it means? Beats me. Well, you want to hear him explain it? No, I don't care, I think he's an idiot.

38:16 I've lost all respect for the man. Of course, and for the Mayo Clinic in general. This is an outrage. An outrage, I tell you. Anyway, so does that offset my watching George Bayhardt? Is he talking about viruses for smoking and things that these other, I'm sorry, vaccines for smoking? Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, these guys are... People aren't suspicious about this sort of thing? Oh yeah, yeah, of course. Virus, I'm sorry, I keep saying virus, but maybe virus caused smoking, I don't think so. Vaccine. But I mean, what is there to cure? It's bullshit. I mean, what is the, what is the, uh, what's it, what, what dead bacteria or, or attenuated viruses are in the vaccine that stops you from smoking? Oh wait, I'm an enumerate. What would I know? Yeah, he's, uh, his main research actually is an anthrax vaccine. Yeah. But anthrax is not a virus.

39:11 It's not like something you pick up, it's something you get infected with. It's a spore. Yeah. So, you know, it's like that's not really a vaccine. No, I think it is. Oh, it is? Okay. I like this. I like the phobia vaccine best. You know what they'll have? They'll have an anti-innumerate vaccine. Well, then good luck with that. All you enumerates lying up here. I guess only the people in the north will be able to pronounce the word. I'm sorry everybody, I didn't mean to say that. Have you been reading more of your Family of Secrets book? Yeah, you know, it kind of craps out.

CHAPTER 13 / 31 Discussion

Afghanistan Poppy Production, George H.W. Bush Nickname

The hosts discuss the book "Family of Secrets" and the irony of George H.W. Bush's nickname, "Poppy," in relation to the massive heroin production in Afghanistan. They reference photos of U.S. troops reportedly assisting in the harvest and transport of poppy crops. The segment suggests a link between the Bush political dynasty and the global drug trade.

afghanistan· poppies· heroin· george h.w. bush· family of secrets

39:51 I would recommend people reading the first five chapters and then you get your, you're, you're kind of lit up. And, but when you get to near the end, it's just kind of just as dawdles. The thing that, uh, that, that hit me and I'm, uh, I'm about where you were on Thursday, I'm about halfway through and it, and it's, it's ongoing throughout the entire book. And it didn't really hit me the, the irony of it. Of course, we know that, uh, we, you know, we're in Afghanistan and we're there for the, uh, for the, um, for the poppies, for the heroin, uh, uh... not just to uh... to eradicate it no where did you see the photos that are coming out now showing the troops they invaded marja and they actually took the crops they harvested it and took it back into the helicopters i know i have a picture in the show notes yeah nobody seems to think twice about this no it's like they have big our own soldiers have big bushels of poppies on their back they've harvested the poppies they're actually showing pictures of them putting it on the aircraft

40:49 How stupid can it get? But the thing that hit me in the book is what is George H. Walker Bush's nickname? Poppy. Poppy Bush! It's like, it's so obvious. Why do you think they call... And it's P-O-P-P-Y. Yeah, it's like poppy Bush. It's the biggest joke ever. Of course, we're not on the inside circle, so we don't get it because we're innumerates. But now I understand. These guys are part of the Bush Clinton crime syndicate and they call it, they call the grand poobah, they call the Don, the copy to tooty copy, they call him poppy Bush because he's the man behind all of the heroin. It's amazing.

CHAPTER 14 / 31 Discussion

Hydraulic Fracturing, Water Contamination, New York Aquifers

Hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," is identified as a cause of flammable tap water and groundwater contamination in Colorado, Pennsylvania, and Canada. The hosts discuss how the industry is exempt from certain Clean Water Act regulations. Senator Charles Schumer is mentioned as a key figure opposing fracking in New York to protect the state's massive unfiltered aquifers.

fracking· natural gas· epa· charles schumer· benzene

41:34 You know, I recommend the book to everybody. I'll put another link in the show notes. It's laughable. It really is. And all the good it does for us to discuss this stuff. So anyway, let's talk about some other things. Okay. Let's take a look at my clips here. A couple of things, we did the Earth Hour. Oh yeah, there's this thing called fracting or some hydraulic fracturing and it's resulting in a bunch of interesting... This was done by the Frontline Crowd. And play... Of course you gotta spell A-Y-E-R-O-N. Aeron? Yeah, play that.

42:17 It's the weirdest thing you'll ever experience. At first it's like a pyromaniac's kind of dream. Okay, stop. So they've, there's, and if you look up either water on fire or lighting water on, I think lighting water on fire in Google, it's not like a million hits, but you get hits from all over the place. Alberta, I got one from Alberta, Canada, all over Colorado, apparently in Pennsylvania. And what happens is that they're extracting all this, these small oil companies are extracting natural gas by pumping a bunch of water and other crap into the ground

42:54 just punching it in there and it fractures the sub elements or whatever the rocks are down there at 8,000 feet causing a minor earthquake I might mention. And then all this natural gas comes up but apparently it's been mixing in with the water table and so people are opening their faucets and the next thing you know... The shit's on fire. The shit's on fire. So play this clip, please. Play the clip. Maybe 11 year old boys in that town knew they could do it before their parents knew. Kids these days, they get to light their faucet on fire. This is awesome. And I saw that. Because this phenomenon of being able to light your water on fire in a gas drilling area is fairly common. It's common? Yes. It was reported in Demick, it was reported in Wyoming, it was reported in Canada. Plus, when it's coming in out of your tap, it's full of benzene, it's unrefined, it has carcinogenic chemicals in it.

43:56 Here's the thing though, Josh Fox didn't know if there was something profoundly wrong with the whole system of drilling for natural gas. And just last week, the government announced it will conduct the first nationwide scientific study to determine once and for all if the process used is contaminating people's water. There's a difference between the occasional mistake being done when you're looking for underground... Yeah. Awesome. Okay, now here's a couple of points that come out as you start watching this one. Where's the EPA? I thought the fluoride was bad Blows up in your face. Yes, it's drinking straight up. Is it okay if I smoke near the swimming pool or? so

44:41 So then where's the EPA now that this report says that these guys these natural gas drillers and by the way There's no big companies. It seems it's all a bunch of little guys So any one of them that they actually if they poisoned of all the water and you know for the entire state of Colorado Which is possible? They they just go bankrupt. That's fine. It's too bad. Bye But meanwhile, the EPA apparently has been pushed away from this because some legislative types, and we'll find out who they are by the way, we'll look into this, have made it so natural gas drillers are exempt from clean water, there's some law that you can't mess with the water supply, and these guys have been exempt from it.

45:21 And so the EPA, of course there's a million other possible things to go after, but the EPA has been supposedly, they can't go after these guys because of that, which I find to be somewhat bogus, because the EPA... They can go after anything they want. They can go after anything they want. They have superpowers. They have capes and stuff. Here, John, I'll get a little song for you. Little smoke on the water everybody. That's where that song came from. So anyway, so I have a second clip. Let's play that and then we'll talk about this a little more. underground natural gas or if there's a systematic problem with the process. Let's talk about that process. It's called hydraulic hydraulic fracture. It's like a cool nickname, fracking. Well, fracking, yeah. Oh boy, I can feel this one coming. Fracking is... What the frack are you doing? Historically, a method of last resort. It's a desperation technique. When your gas well or your oil well is running out and it's no longer free flowing, you go in and frack it and flush it with water, try to break apart the formation. A lot of water.

46:23 Well, in this case a lot of water. Traditional fracking is this method of last resort. So as we run out of these things, the last resort becomes the primary objective. Let's take a look at the graphic from your film. Sure. It blasts a mix of water and chemicals 8,000 feet into the ground. The fracking itself is like a mini earthquake. The intense pressure breaks apart the rock and frees up the gas. In order to frack, you need some fracking fluid. A mix of over five hundred... John, come on! There's humor there! In order to frack, you need some... Here's the problem I'm having with this whole report, besides the fact that I'm sure this is causing problems. First of all, because of the... They never say what these chemicals are. They say it's 500 different chemicals. What's the point of putting chemicals in this water that you're pumping into the ground? It makes no sense.

47:13 at all and they never explained the rationale, they never talked to anybody in the industry about it. And they caused a mini earthquake, hello? Hello the chemical what chemicals are these and why are they being used at all because fracking used to be just a water phenomenon now the second thing is why is this being investigated now all of a sudden well I think it's because of Charles Schumer because it seems as if they wanted to start doing this kind of extraction of natural gas which apparently our country is just filled with we're filled with hot gas and And so they're gonna start doing it in New York. And New York has one of the biggest aquifers providing really outstanding water, unfiltered. Best water in the country, they say, in New York. It's delicious, it's in New York City. All they have to do is start it up there and ruin the water for all of Manhattan and the boroughs. And this would be a disaster for all the politicians, so Schumer's gonna put a stop to it because he knows he's gonna be, and every other,

48:11 New York politicians going to be ousted if they contaminate the New York water supply, which is quite likely if you listen to this report. But anyway, this is going on, you know, extremely underreported. The guy that what they do is they come into a little community. They think there's enough natural gas and they essentially lease the mineral rights from all the all the people that live there at about $5,000 an acre. And so if you have 10 acres, they give you a check for scratch, a check for 50 grand. And the next thing you know, your water's on fire. So why all of a sudden, yeah, so where this has clearly been done for a while, and by the way, I'm one of the appeals of the Hilltop Watchtower is it has a complete water filtration system with reverse osmosis. I've got all kinds of tanks and stuff that it goes through. So the water I have in my house, even the water that comes out of the shower is completely purified. And I am so happy.

49:04 Because this is bad stuff. Well, the point is it shouldn't be that way. There's no reason we can't have clean, fresh water, especially in California where we have these mountain ranges that pretty much filter the water for us. But the only reason we have contaminated water is because of either pollution, pesticides, and all these other things that we just abuse. And now this fracking BS, which is going to kill us all. So, uh, I love it. That's my report for the day. I love the name though. Well, you win. Fracking? 10 points. Yes, fracking. I love that. You need some fracking fluid to frack properly, my friend. Hey, Mick, want a frack-booter? So I got another clip here that you might be interested in because you left San Francisco in a huff.

CHAPTER 15 / 31 Discussion

San Francisco Food Wars, PBS Programming Critique

A PBS segment featuring "SF Food Wars" and a mac and cheese competition is used to illustrate the decline of public broadcasting quality. The hosts criticize PBS and NPR for dropping local programming in favor of BBC content while soliciting donations. They argue that the "foodie" culture in San Francisco is a distraction from the city's economic and infrastructure problems.

san francisco· pbs· npr· mac and cheese· foodies

49:49 Yeah, oh, you think the town stinks? I know, I saw this on the news this morning. Yeah, I think the town stinks because they're bringing in, under the guise of a bus station, they're going to create the largest shopping promenade in south of Market, which will encompass, I think, ten city blocks and under eminent domain, Some of the most beautiful oldest buildings in that area are being torn down For a city that has no money for a state that is broke, and I think you're probably going to talk about New York No, actually I'm going to play the sf foodie event just to kind of just to reiterate the kind of the basic problems we have in this area with Well, you know the area's kind of thought of as a foodie thing and so they're gonna have this event called I don't know some sort of competition

50:40 People would compete and you get to go to see and you'd listen to these dingbats Talk about this and then the punchline of course is right at the end when they tell you what they're actually gonna be competing about What they've competed about and I'm just playing this for you for the purposes of making you feel better About the fact that you think San Francisco is stupid and in here Yeah, and you left. That's right. This new event is taking over the Bay Area's foodie underground. Oh, it's taking over. What? It's taking over. It's taking over. This is, it's a bonanza. It's fracking everything. This new event is taking over the Bay Area's foodie underground.

51:19 I don't want to interrupt it, it sounds so good. Where both home and seasoned professional chefs compete for the title of San Francisco Food Wars Champion. And joining us in the studio is SF Food Wars creator... What is this from by the way? What fine news institution? PBS. Of course, National Treasure! ...founder Jeannie Che, along with our own Bay Area Bites blogger Stephanie Rosenbaum, whose cookie baking skills were put to the test in the Food Wars latest competition. Oh my god, you can just hear the prompter rolling too slowly for her. Those cookie baking skills were put to the test? Who wrote this? Now Jeannie, how did

52:00 How did you get the Food Wars concept off the ground? This is the sixth event you've had? This is like, this is high school. This is like a high school television station. Exactly. And listen to this woman who comes in, this Chinese girl who sounds like a valley girl from LA moved up here. Oh wow. Okay. I can't wait. This was the fifth event. that venture capital, you just want to bitch slap them. Well, you know, it's really good because these guys are really going some places. This is really, really hot. It's a great company and we've invested all this money in them and this of course was about Juiced. And so they're really going to be fantastic. It's going to be television on the internet, television on your PC.

52:53 Full city for food in general. It's the same way in general. And they always end each sentence the same way. We have to emphasize what we're saying by talking about like a death. The events, they tend to either be free and way too accessible or accessible or really exclusive and not accessible. And this was our opportunity to do something for everyone. with a really accessible price. And what is the price? $10-14 and our proceeds benefit the SF Food Bank, which is really awesome. That's really, really awesome. Yeah. Yeah! What were some of the earlier events? This one was obviously cookies, and we'll talk about it, but what were some of the earlier events that you did? We have had a mac and cheese battle, mini cupcakes, holiday sides, artisan bread, chocolate cookies, and then coming up will be amuse brunch, brunch and a bite. Amuse brunch, perfect. A lot of bacon.

53:46 So you're paying $14 to eat all the mac and cheese you can eat. Mac and cheese, all the mac and cheese you can eat, ladies and gentlemen. Oh my god! It's a mac and cheese competition. This is the hottest thing going amongst the foodies in San Francisco. Mac and cheese competition. It was like, why are, what is wrong with you people? Mac and cheese, you know, chocolate. chocolate cookies. It's actually really interesting. 14 bucks you get all the chocolate cookies you can eat. I was reading, don't forget to pay for your parking, we don't validate. I was reading the Los Angeles Times yesterday and there's a huge debate going certainly across California as all the PBS stations that deliver fine programming such as you've just heard, they're all in their pledge drives.

54:42 And everyone, you know, there's arguments and there's closed committee, closed door committee meetings about what the programming should be. And people are dropping their subscriptions left and right. And they think it sucks. They're really just outraged by the bullshit programming to make it worse on many of the PBS stations, radio and television. I guess that would be NPR for a lot of the radio. They're dropping local programming for the BBC. Yeah, I know. Hilarious. For the MI6 controlled BBC, for the state media from Gitmo Nation East, and people are up in arms. And I'm reading this, I'm going like, oh my god, we are so doing the right thing, we are so on the right track because here we are exposing the BS that a lot of people who listen to this show have been paying for for years. They've been donating to these idiots with their $14 mac and cheese contest.

CHAPTER 16 / 31 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony, Listener Donations, Vajazzling Commission

David Ernie is officially knighted into the No Agenda Roundtable for his consistent financial support. The hosts read through various donations, including contributions from Derek Winke and George Derhorst. A humorous mention is made of a commission received from Vajazzling.com, leading to a joke about RFID chips in body crystals.

david ernie· knighthood· donations· iceland7· vajazzling

55:38 Send $14 to no agenda. I guarantee you you'll get better better bang for your buck better Frick for your frack Better karma, that's for sure while we're on it Why don't we talk about some of the people who have been supporting the show John as we're a little past our our mark here? All right, let's go over some people that sent some money into no agenda show calm to work org slash na devorek org slash nas or channel devorek comm slash na And we have a knight. Yes, we do. Which is David Ernie. David Ernie. You want to start by giving him his send off? It's not a send off. It's actually it's it's actually kind of like a good thing, John. All right, David Ernie, please kneel before us as we have evaluated and tallied and proudly knight you. David.

56:34 Please join the Knights of the Noah General and Traybull and participate in our Hookers and Blow. And thank you very much for the support. Highly appreciated, Sir David. And by the way, I've actually asked Eric to make up a list because when... because our Knights don't just drop off the edge of the world, you know, after they've donated. They continue to donate, they continue to participate, they help us with with items on the show. For instance, I actually made a mistake on the artwork last week which was Paul T. Of course now it should be Sir Paul. We have to be addressing our Knights properly. So, Sir David, welcome to the Knights of the Noah Gena Roundtable. So we have $99.99 again from podcastforpeace.com.

57:24 We have a lot of 55 tens and $50 donation. You got Derek a winky W I N K E. I think that's pronounced right. Yeah, he actually is a sysadmin and and of course being a sysadmin he says I have to be a minute man. Please don't make me feel like a douchebag and add me to the list. What does that mean? The douchebag list, I guess. George, here's a here's one from Katsholm. Netherlands, how's that? Let's try that again. Kats Hovel. Kats Hovel. Kats Hovel. Perfect. And that's George Derhorst.

58:04 Is it dare? It expected to be tear with a T. That's what it came in at from the PayPal database. 50 bucks, thank you so much George from Katshovel. Ronald White, East Helena, Montana. Ryan Lee, Ashland, Kentucky. It's interesting. DUI-help.com. But that's a knighthood layaway and Barry Wilson's also also We have Lawrence Royke who has been contributing consistently, and he has a little note here which says He's doing his own Where you looking now? I'm looking at the note from Royke. He's just he's doing his own night thing so as okc tactics Inc

58:57 And that's it for this week. We didn't get a lot of $50 donations. We did get one interesting $5 donation from Iceland7, who I think is the guy who came up with the Vajazzling.com, which we thought was a brilliant idea. And he sent us our commission as the result of selling two home Vajazzling kits Vajazzling.com and I was thinking you know this Vajazzling this actually could be it could be a pretty evil thing what if they put RFID chips in those in them crystals? Yeah be careful people. You could have a trackable Vajayjay. This may not be a good thing. Anyway that's it John? Yeah we didn't have a big week. We need people out there to step up a little bit.

CHAPTER 17 / 31 Discussion

No Agenda Show Notes, Professional Mailing List

The hosts promote their new professional mailing list for show notes, which will provide listeners with links and deconstructed news items. They emphasize that the show notes are a standalone product of high value. Listeners are encouraged to sign up at noagendashow.com to receive the curated research used in each episode.

show notes· mailing list· noagendashow.com· dvorak· curry

59:57 Well certainly now that you know that that PBS the National Treasure along with NPR are completely falling apart there They're just purchasing that and it's crazy. They're buying Programming from the BBC to put on your airwaves To put on your airwaves and by the way whenever you know there's a PBS office in town drive by Take a look at those offices. Tell me what you think, how they look. And see what kind of cars are parked out front. You'd be surprised I bet. Yeah, some of those places get some serious money in. Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA and of course you can always find everything including the show notes at noagendashow.com. Now we are, we probably are going to wait another two weeks, maybe three until we start sending out our show notes emails because we've had signups but not what we think is

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CHAPTER 18 / 31 Discussion

Marijuana Legalization Propaganda, Christine Pelosi Interview

A Fox News segment featuring Geraldo Rivera and Christine Pelosi is deconstructed as a "propaganda gem" designed to undermine marijuana legalization in California. The hosts explain how the segment used "pre-conditioning" by starting with a negative police quote before interviewing a skeptical Pelosi. They argue the media is intentionally framing the debate to protect pharmaceutical interests.

marijuana· california· christine pelosi· geraldo rivera· fox news

1:02:32 Go ahead. All right. Well, this is a deconstruction of a story that ran on Fox with the Geraldo and it is part of the scheme under foot to kill marijuana bill in California. And the reason I want to do that, of course, is because if California legalizes marijuana, then every other state that has medical marijuana is going to have to do the same thing. And it's going to be a kind of a nightmare for the other states because you know these people come to California and buy some weed and drive back to Utah and smoke it. Is this the story with Pelosi's kid? This is a story with Pelosi's kid. Yeah, I saw that. So I broke it up into four pieces and I want to discuss them and I'm going to tell you how this one works because this one is an absolute gem of propaganda. Start with the in order with marijuana one. Why on earth would we want to add yet another mind altering substance to the array of legal substances that compromise a person's five senses where we know they're going to make bad decisions? Because it's good

1:03:34 It's official, a measure to legalize marijuana and allow it to be sold and taxed will be on the ballot. Okay, it ends there. Yeah, so it's now This started off with this guy from the narcotics officers Association with that little blurb at the beginning talking about the evils of marijuana And it was never intro to anything right to Geraldo who started talking about then he started about this field survey that a year ago 55% of Californians wanted to legalize it was 2006 it was like like three years ago at some point in the past the

1:04:30 which we'll hear later about the tax benefits. He actually made a point to say, we heard that you spent a million dollars. Yeah, to get all the signatures. To get this on. Okay, so the guy says, yeah, we spent a million dollars. Okay, plain marijuana too. How are you feeling now? You know, the opposition will build, however Hey dude. I'm really rowdy right now. So Geraldo manages to make these snide comments about rowdiness and the bloomers off the bud, hello. Oh nice. And the guy drops all the information about the taxes and stuff. This is the guy from Oaksterdam, right? He's the guy that runs Oaksterdam. Play number three.

1:05:27 I think that's been overblown. Most people see that the sky hasn't fallen, that actually cannabis has been widely available in California for a number of years here and we don't see any increase in traffic accidents or problems. So I think the opposite is true. All the problems are really just played up by the opposition. And Richard, how much tax revenue do you anticipate, realistically, the state of California, which I think is around $20 billion in the red or more, can hope to achieve from this measure if it passes? Well, the California Board of Equalization estimates $1.5 billion in tax revenue. Who's the California Board of Equalization? Is that like a good outfit?

1:06:13 It's the California Board of Equalization. They collect money from you. Oh, so they're estimating a billion dollars, a billion. Yeah. In what, taxes? Yeah. Jesus, great. Correct. That's just excise taxes. There's also the savings to law enforcement. They estimate about a billion dollars there. Plus there's other indirect benefits like other payroll taxes, jobs created in other businesses that sprout up alongside the county. Chocolate brownies! He went to the foodie fair!

1:06:51 He threw that little joke in at the end to kind of, you know, deflate this guy's positive thoughts. So then he brings in this horrible person, Pelosi's daughter. I didn't even know she existed. I didn't either. She's apparently a prosecutor. She claims to be a liberal Democrat. And if she's a liberal Democrat, then I think the Democrats have got a lot of problems. She is extremely creepy. Well, duh. The apple falls by the way of yourself for coming on the show like this, but play it Christine Pelosi the the daughter of the first female Speaker of the House. How do you feel? You're a Democrat. You're a liberal. How do you feel about this measure? Well as a former prosecutor, I think that I'm very skeptical about it. I support medicinal marijuana. I think that That should happen at the federal level, but it concerns me that

1:07:46 You've got a mind-altering drug. You don't know the public safety implications of it. Yeah, unlike shantyx. It's one thing to say you should have a drug that's prescribed by a doctor and used under appropriate conditions. It's another thing to say go out to a bar. and get high and get drunk and get behind the wheel which you know people are going to do so I'm concerned about public safety also just looking at the numbers I think that the profit rate would be high because it's illegal I don't know how legalizing it affects the price I imagine that when something's legal the price goes down so I'm very skeptical I'd have to get a public safety

1:08:28 analysis from law enforcement officials who are actually on the street on the beat. For sure. For sure. Sorry, we've got to go. You have the last word. Screw the pothead. All right now here's the deal now. This is a trick that if anyone's gone to a lot of motivational Speak listen to a lot of motivational speakers of various events You will have run into this trick a number of times and this is kind of what they did here the trick is as follows and then this is a kind of a Pre-conditioning you pre-condition your audience to think one way or the other and these guys love to do this trick I've seen it twice

1:09:03 You divide the audience into two groups, A and B. Say you got 200 people in A and 200 people in B. And on people A, you show a picture of a rabbit. And group B, you show a picture of an old lady. And then to the entire group, you flash an image, one of those crazy images that could look like a duck or a hat or an old woman or, you know, these crazy, it's a drawing that you... You can interpret in two or three different ways. You flash the crazy picture up there and then you ask people what they saw. The group A will have seen the rabbit in the drawing and group B will have seen the old lady. Now this particular bit that they did with us here was they preconditioned us with the

1:09:46 at the beginning. They didn't have to have a cop with all that negative stuff at the beginning saying what he thought. We didn't even know who this guy was. He wasn't even introduced to us, but they just preconditioned us with this stupid cop at the beginning. If you had put somebody at the beginning exposing the tax benefits or put somebody at the beginning that says it's a better drug than alcohol or put anything at the beginning, that would have preconditioned the audience wherever you wanted them, however you wanted them to think. So they precondition the audience and they throw all this stuff out and they try to demean the guy who had to spend a million dollars to get the thing passed. Then they bring out this Pelosi creep who comes out and says, well, I'd have to see what law enforcement, the guys on the street are thinking. And then they kill the whole debate. Meanwhile, of course, you've already seen what the guy in the

1:10:29 streets thinking because he was at the beginning of the show. So this whole thing was part of a giant scheme using the cheapest, creepiest trick imaginable to precondition the audience to think negatively toward this bill. John C. DuBois. Well deserves and well deconstructed, my friend. Absolutely. Well, let me just say a couple of things. So this is indeed a huge, and I'm not quite sure why anyone would be against this. Because the science is in on POTS. SCIENCE!

CHAPTER 19 / 31 Discussion

Synthetic Marijuana Dangers, Pharmaceutical Drug Side Effects

The discussion shifts to the dangers of synthetic marijuana like "K2" or "Spice" coming from Asia, which is linked to psychotic episodes in teenagers. This is contrasted with the severe side effects of legal pharmaceutical drugs like Lyrica and Chantix. The hosts highlight a $142 million judgment against Pfizer for fraudulent marketing of the anti-seizure drug Gabapentin.

k2· spice· lyrica· pfizer· gabapentin

1:11:08 But they clearly are and we've seen on Thursday we reported in the past couple weeks in one California hospital six teens coming in whacked out of their head, psychotic, some not even getting out of their trip being sent to psych wards, NOS, like what does that stand for again? Basically they don't know, just freaking psychotic, can't help you. Report that came out on Friday is this synthetic dope, K2, also known as Spice. And I'm really worried about this stuff. It's made in Asia, apparently, and you can buy it online or in some stores. And it's... this may be... this is maybe the stuff that these kids are smoking. So we have to figure out where this is coming from and... and it doesn't seem like... if it's synthetic, it's probably not a good idea.

1:12:06 Dope, so talking about causing traffic accidents. First of all, it used to be you'd never hear of a pothead grabbing a gun, killing his entire family, going on a rampage because all we want is Cheetos. And if anything, the traffic camera light, the traffic light cameras in California have caused more traffic accidents than potheads. These stupid traffic lights they've got. And I myself and anyone who has smoked pot knows that you can actually pull yourself out of the high.

1:12:44 It's not that hard to do. I've flown my helicopter under supervision with an instructor who knew what I was doing and I flew it perfectly while I was completely hammered. I'm not saying it's a good idea but I'm just saying it can be done. So there's a lot of stuff that we haven't looked at and in general it calms people down. It's a, it's a, they don't call it the holy herb for nothing. And look at all the money we could be making in this broke state. Hey guys, you could build tons of shopping centers. You could throw lots of people out of their homes. Meanwhile, you know, I'm sorry. Well, you know, they've been Pelosi mentioned that, you know, they or they've mentioned or they actually the guy mentioned that they could save a billion dollars in law enforcement. That means law enforcement who would you know, that would normally be covered, you know, just busting kids for smoking dope or could be out of a job or maybe they'd have to actually go find some real criminals. And if you look at our prison system, our commercial prisons prison system,

1:13:41 I believe the majority of these prisons are filled with black people for marijuana crimes. There's too many people in jail. It's costing us $40,000 a year per person to keep some pothead in jail because somebody thinks it's a good idea to keep potheads in jail so they can use them for slave labor. This is bogus. I mean, this, this, but this kind of relentless, kind of subtle propagate, relentless and subtle propagandizing like this particular episode that everybody at Fox and specifically Geraldo with his snide comments about Brown Brownies and chocolate. Whooo! So funny. They should be ashamed of themselves. Ashamed of themselves. And this is what you get, ladies and gentlemen, for listening to Fox, which is supposed to be this big right-wing network that, you know, fair and balanced and the rest of it. It's bogus. It's just the same propaganda machine that everybody else is running. And we want you to take our

1:14:38 drugs. We don't want you to take drugs that you can grow in your backyard for free. No, we want you to take our drugs such as this email that came in from our listener producer Andrew aka the hottie with a crippled body. Adam listening to the live show right now. This is on Thursday. Feel free to share this on the show I have cerebral palsy and I had surgery back in 2006. They gave me Lyrica This is the stuff that we played the commercial for on the last show They gave me Lyrica for nerve damage for over a year after coming off the drug. I developed memory loss anxiety and panic disorder and agoraphobia

1:15:17 Still trying to get a case together against the makers of Lyrica already had one neurologist Tell me Lyrica is likely to be a cause of many problems I've had so just a word of advice to fellow listeners to run away from Lyrica Shantix another drug the stop smoking drug that we've talked about Completely freaks people out makes them completely crazy the only way to stop the craziness to start smoking again And then you've got these dickwads like Pfizer who've just been ordered to pay 142 million dollars in damages for marketing Gabapentin, was it Gabapentin? Antiseizure drug that they fraudulently were marketing. You've got people telling you you're gonna get head cancer if you perform condolingus, if you don't take Gardasil, and then we're and they're complaining about a pot about a plant? It's nuts.

1:16:11 Well, it's it's absolutely shameful. It's unbelievable to me. I mean these people have They're heartless and I think the Pelosi woman is a classic example of a heartless person. Oh, yeah, whatever the cops say goes Former prosecutor, yeah, yeah, everybody's a criminal to them and now she's a Fox News correspondent That's that's the the rise to fame right there. Whoa Yeah, that's pretty outrageous You know, I came across an interesting clip, John. You know, we have these clips about Haiti.

CHAPTER 20 / 31 Discussion

Haiti Relief Funds, Bush-Clinton Crime Syndicate

The hosts examine the $11.4 billion raised for Haiti relief, noting that much of it flows through foundations led by Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. They compare this to the 2004 tsunami relief efforts, discovering that the original "freedomcorps.gov" website has been quietly morphed into "serve.gov." They question the lack of public accounting for these massive cash donations.

haiti· bill clinton· george w. bush· serve.gov· relief funds

1:16:51 Of course, my belief is that this was a total setup. They turned on the earthquake machine and now $11.4 billion is being raised through the United Nations, the World Bank, all flowing through the ClintonBushForHaiti.org, which does not exist. The money goes directly to the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation and the Texas something, I keep forgetting the name, Bush's favorite charity. They say they've collected 14 million which seems pretty low and they claim only to have dispersed 3 million so far all to NGOs, non-governmental organizations.

1:17:30 And of course we laugh about what they were saying when they were together, when they were doing their PR release together as 20,000 US troops were moving into Haiti. Here's what Bush said. Shyster show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity. Right. And then of course when they were together. Part of the medical team or a search and rescue team We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash. So by coincidence, I come across a YouTube video, again Bush and Clinton, only this time it is President Clinton and George H. Walker Bush after the tsunami.

1:18:12 example when Central America was devastated by the hurricane. Why can't I stop? There we go. After the tsunami in Sri Lanka, etc. And listen to what... So now this is the Bush-Clinton crime family syndicate at work and listen to what they're saying. When I was president. We spent almost a billion dollars of the taxpayers money out of their pockets. And if I could just make one other point about that, because you asked if it was a worldwide effort. Because of the internet and because you can make contributions over the net, a small amount of cash can do an enormous amount of good. You have AOL and Apple, for example, using their

1:18:56 position on the internet to help collect small contributions. I think AOL put together about seven and a half million dollars in small contributions in a day. And President Bush, it's cash over items, right? Cash! Cash! If you're gonna give, you give money. Right now it is. Larry, right now that's true. President Clinton and I accompanied the president when he went to pay his respects. We all did, signing the books at the very end. The death warrant is what he wanted to say. Four embassies of the countries that were affected. and all of them made clear that the best thing you can do is to send money at this time as opposed to goods because there's no delivery problem. Sometimes the goods can be acquired in a neighborhood nearby or sometimes the goods that might be sent from here might not be exactly what's needed. The medicine might be different. So we've concluded

1:19:51 The best thing to do is, as President Clinton said a minute ago, to give to these organizations or send it to usafreedom.gov and freedomcorps.gov and let them help distribute it. But the main thing is, it's better at this juncture to send cash. Just send us cash! Now, so I'm listening to that and like usafreedom.gov, okay. Offline, doesn't exist. Gone. USAfreedom.gov no longer exists. Freedomcore.gov? Gone. Offline. That no longer exists. So I'm like, huh, that's interesting. What happened to these? So I go into archive.org and USAfreedom.gov does not exist in archive.org. It cannot find it.

1:20:44 However, FreedomCore.gov does exist in the archive and that has actually morphed into a new site. I'm just trying to bring it up from archive.org right now. Do you know what that has become? No, but you're going to tell me. Serve.gov. Oh really? Oh yes! Serve.gov. Serve.gov, United We Serve, that is the FreedomCore. dot-gov that website has been changed into serve dot-gov and right there on the homepage ah yes oh he's such a sweet boy from New Jersey oh he's been assimilated maybe he is just reptilian here he comes we all recognize I'm a big believer in the power of we this is Jon Bon Jovi we can tackle the tough challenges we face and build community through service and volunteering

1:21:46 The reality is we're all in this together. So explain to me how money that went to the victims of the tsunami, freedomcore.gov, did that build serve.gov? Is that what happened? Or did it build USA Freedom Corps for Kids, which is linked from that website, which is all a part of the Corporation for National and Community Service? Is that what happened with that money? With your cash? You cash? Just seems like money that does... Do they ever give an accounting of this money? Of course not! No, because we gotta be looking at other things like Sandra Bullock and Tiger Woods. Yeah, well, it sounds like a rip-off if you ask me. By the way, Tiger Woods, you know, I was reading this article in, I think it was the New York Times Magazine about how... and I remember we talked about this. You know, the contracts with the television contracts are up.

CHAPTER 21 / 31 Discussion

Tiger Woods Media Hit, Golf Television Contracts

The Tiger Woods scandal is analyzed as a calculated media hit to generate revenue for television networks facing expiring contracts and declining sponsorships. The hosts suggest that because financial companies stopped sponsoring golf events, the media "blew the lid" on Woods' personal life to create a massive viewership spike for the upcoming Masters tournament.

tiger woods· masters· viacom· sponsorships· media hit

1:22:45 They have to be renewed and they've been in discussion for over a year now. And of course, without Tiger Woods, no golf on television. It's just not interesting because it's not golf people care about, it's Tiger Woods. And the article asserts what I thought was pretty interesting, that golf is in big trouble because who really pays for the television fees? Who really pays for the sponsorships? You do know, right? Know who? Well, huge financial companies. These are the guys that are always sponsoring all these events and they've all pulled out. If they have the money, they've either given it to themselves in bonuses or their shareholders won't stand for it that they're flying all of their big clients on private jets to go watch Tiger Woods play golf. So there was a classic conundrum of Jesus Christ, we don't have enough money really to

1:23:41 to pump into the television contracts and I believe that Viacom, and we'd have to go back and see who broke the story of Tiger Woods, they probably made a very smart decision by saying, you know what, we can make a shitload of money off of this guy, we don't have any more sponsors, why don't we just blow the lid off of all this fucking around he's doing. because everyone knew it. I mean, it's impossible for Tiger Woods. Yeah, now the more stories come out, the more apparently everybody knew about it. I mean, this, you know, he's a multi-billion dollar franchise. They're not just gonna, you know, it's not like people don't know about what he's doing every single day or night. This guy was the franchise. So why don't we just blow the lid off it? We'll make tons of money talking about all these hookers and these strippers.

1:24:25 And now of course when the Masters opens on April 5th, it'll be bigger than Election Day. It'll be huge! For free! Don't have to do anything, don't have to blow these advertisers, people are going to watch. They have the hookers threatening to show up, the porn star. Right, the porn star threatening to show up. Of course we will all be watching, I'll be watching, I can't wait to see her show up, this is going to be cool. So this was a total media hit just to make money. Just like they killed Michael Jackson because he was worth more dead than alive.

1:25:03 If the family is, you know, they're releasing an album of unreleased tracks, a hundred million dollars to the family alone. Please. This is how it works, people. Yeah, well there's been a lot of suspicion about the Tiger Woods thing not being kind of some, you know... Who broke the story? We're stupid. You and I are stupid because we should have paid attention. This is what we've got to look at. When a story like that breaks... It's a real news story though. We don't pay that much attention to these stories except to ridicule them. Yeah, but it... In this case, yeah, we probably could have done something. In fact, my wife came up with the same thing with the Sandra Bullock thing. She says the big problem is Jesse James's numbers have fallen through the floor. Nobody's watching his show anymore. They need some PR. And that, you know, that guy, he's got blue jeans and Walmart. He's got t-shirt deals. He's got a lot of merchandising. And isn't it interesting that we have actually never heard either of them talk about this?

CHAPTER 22 / 31 Discussion

Jesse James PR Stunt, Real News Skepticism

The hosts speculate that the Jesse James and Sandra Bullock scandal may be a PR stunt to boost James' falling television ratings and merchandising deals. They reiterate their core message that listeners should avoid mainstream news outlets and instead rely on books and independent deconstruction to understand world events.

jesse james· sandra bullock· pr stunt· media literacy· news consumption

1:24:25 And now of course when the Masters opens on April 5th, it'll be bigger than Election Day. It'll be huge! For free! Don't have to do anything, don't have to blow these advertisers, people are going to watch. They have the hookers threatening to show up, the porn star. Right, the porn star threatening to show up. Of course we will all be watching, I'll be watching, I can't wait to see her show up, this is going to be cool. So this was a total media hit just to make money. Just like they killed Michael Jackson because he was worth more dead than alive.

1:25:03 If the family is, you know, they're releasing an album of unreleased tracks, a hundred million dollars to the family alone. Please. This is how it works, people. Yeah, well there's been a lot of suspicion about the Tiger Woods thing not being kind of some, you know... Who broke the story? We're stupid. You and I are stupid because we should have paid attention. This is what we've got to look at. When a story like that breaks... It's a real news story though. We don't pay that much attention to these stories except to ridicule them. Yeah, but it... In this case, yeah, we probably could have done something. In fact, my wife came up with the same thing with the Sandra Bullock thing. She says the big problem is Jesse James's numbers have fallen through the floor. Nobody's watching his show anymore. They need some PR. And that, you know, that guy, he's got blue jeans and Walmart. He's got t-shirt deals. He's got a lot of merchandising. And isn't it interesting that we have actually never heard either of them talk about this?

1:26:00 I mean, we're already beating the guy up with baseball bats, Joy Behar is standing outside his door, yet neither Sandra Bullock nor Jesse James have said anything about this based on one interview that some tattoo chick gave. So, I don't know. I need, I do need to qualify that. I just have to qualify that as a real news story. It was. Yeah, it was total. But the public is being scammed left and right and that's kind of too bad. You know that many people actually just use this show as their news. Like I don't need to watch any news. Good idea. Yeah, I don't need to watch any news. I just listen to NO Agenda and they break it up, you know, because we're about two hours in length and they break it up over two days and it fills their week and they know everything. They got everything they need to know. Yeah, our main message is to stay away from these news outlets. Yeah, that's exactly it. That's where you want to start.

CHAPTER 23 / 31 Discussion

Nancy Schaefer Murder-Suicide, Child Protective Services Corruption

Former Georgia State Senator Nancy Schaefer and her husband Bruce were found dead in what authorities labeled a murder-suicide. The hosts highlight Schaefer's 2007 report on the "Corrupt Business of Child Protective Services" and question the official narrative of the deaths. They point out physical inconsistencies in the shooting descriptions and the lack of media coverage regarding her controversial investigative work.

nancy schaefer· georgia· child protective services· fbi· murder-suicide

1:27:04 Read a book. Go get that Family of Secrets book and read it. Go read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman. There's good books out there. Legacy of Ash is another good book. Another great book. Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Let me talk about a potential two to the head. So of course we were so busy talking about beating up Jesse James and feeling bad for Sandra Bullock that the news of former state senator Nancy Schaefer and her husband Bruce who apparently died of a murder-suicide kind of slipped under the radar. Now here's two interesting things about this story. As you know, again what you have to do is yet this happened... let me see when did this come out? This is from Saturday March 27th and so I think it happened Friday night.

1:28:04 you go to Google, you enter in, it's really simple, just enter in former state senator Nancy Schaefer, and then you enter a timeline and you pull it back like a day before. Because Google is now just saturated with, oh, murder-suicide, oh, murder-suicide, oh, murder-suicide. But if you basically tell the search engine to omit all of these news stories, well, you come up with something very interesting. a report from Georgia Senator Nancy Schaefer from 2008 from the legis- and I have the links and everything to this in the PDF file- from the legislative desk of Senator Nancy Schaefer, 50th District of Georgia, Georgia, November 16, 2007. Sorry, 2007. Titled, The Corrupt Business of Child Protective Services. And

1:28:58 In this report I am focusing on the Georgia Department of Family and Children's Services. However, I believe Child Protective Services nationwide has become corrupt and that the entire system is broken almost beyond repair. Yeah, there's a lot of evidence about this. This happened in Texas, the stories that the right-wing talk show guys were talking about where they stole all these kids and then the judge said, no, you have to give the kids back from some guy who was warm in the head. That goes beyond where's my, I want my bike back. I mean, shit, I want my kid back. And then the child protective services said, no, we don't care what you tell us.

1:29:35 Yeah, child protective services and I'll just say it briefly, full of pedophiles! Anyway, then you kind of delve into this murder-suicide. Now if you're gonna commit murder-suicide and they're saying that Bruce had cancer so they both wanted to go, it made so much sense. By the way, not a single single mention of this Child Protective Services report in any of the news reports about the murder-suicide. But if you, John, if you are terminally ill, which I don't know if it's true or not, with cancer, and you and your wife decide, oh, let's commit suicide, here's how he did it. He shot his wife in the back and then killed himself in the chest.

1:30:17 I mean, come on people! How are we supposed to believe this one? Shot her in the back and then shot himself dead in the chest. This is not a murder-suicide. This is not how it's done. I don't care what you say. And then this report? Damning, I tell you, damning. This needs to be investigated. But instead, let's talk about Tiger and Jessie and Sandra. Real important stuff. So who kills themselves by a gunshot to the chest? People who are suicided. And then what police department in any universe? No, the FBI. The FBI is saying, oh no, this is murder-suicide. Clearly. Clearly. The FBI? Yes. Oh, that gives us nothing but confidence then. Thank you very much for this uplifting story. More depressing news on no agenda. No wonder we're not getting any money.

1:31:22 Spokesman John Bank had told the Atlanta Journal, the AGC, was that Atlanta Journal Constitution, whatever, be a thorough investigation of what happened, but it seems like a murder-suicide. That's quite apparent. You know, the guy had cancer, so he shot his wife in the back and then killed himself in the chest. Right. Makes total sense. Quick little ditty from uh... I don't even know how you shoot yourself in the chest. You gotta like twist it. You have to go through, you obviously have to turn the gun on yourself and then use your thumb to fire it. And then, and you're gonna sit there and bleed out? I mean, shooting yourself through the head would be the obvious way. This is so crazy. It's ridiculous. Oh my goodness. Um... Let me just, I got one more toot of the head which uh... is also very funny.

CHAPTER 24 / 31 Discussion

Sheikh Ahmed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, Glider Crash

Sheikh Ahmed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, head of the world's largest sovereign wealth fund in Abu Dhabi, is reported missing after a glider crash in Morocco. The hosts find the circumstances suspicious, noting that the pilot survived the water landing while the high-profile passenger vanished. They link the event to the financial instability of the region's wealth funds.

abu dhabi· morocco· sheikh ahmed· sovereign wealth fund· glider

1:32:12 Not that this is funny. No, no, I mean it's questionable. Gulf Sheikh Ahmed bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the world's biggest sovereign wealth fund runner, so he runs the world's biggest sovereign wealth fund, and his older brother just happens to be the ruler of Abu Dhabi. Is the Abu Dhabi sovereign wealth fund? Yes. Which of course is, what was it, insolvent? Is that what we call it? I don't know, that's Dubai that's insolvent. Oh, I'm sorry, right, Abu Dhabi. Well, maybe they're on the verge of being insolvent, but... No, no, maybe not. He was reported missing in a plane crash in Morocco. Now, so I'm like, oh, okay, this is bad, but let's listen to the plane crash. He was in a glider which crash landed into a lake.

1:33:05 The pilot was recovered, but they can't find his passenger. This is not a good way to go. What? A glider. So it's a two-man glider. Yes. Which means he was obviously with an instructor or somebody. It doesn't even say, it says it came down in a lake. It doesn't even say crashed. It came down in the lake. So, and you know, on a glider, you can land it on water. You can land an airbus on water. Yeah. And the glider would probably float because they're usually made out of the slightest... Yeah, but balsa wood. Yeah, balsa wood. Yeah. Oh, can't find him. I'm sorry, he's gone. I don't know, he sank. He sank. His pockets were full of cash and he sank. That would happen. Now our favorite president of the United States of Europe, Herman van Rompuy, who really needs a better name. He really needs an alias. No one can pronounce this. The guy needs some PR help. Totally. So there's some wordplay going on in Europe.

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European Economic Government, G20 Global Governance

European leaders are reportedly pushing for an "economic government" for the United States of Europe, a term later softened to "economic governance" to avoid British backlash. The hosts discuss how the G20 is being positioned as the primary authority for global carbon taxes and financial regulation, bypassing the United Nations.

european union· g20· herman van rompuy· economic governance· new world order

1:34:08 Now that the French and the Germans are saying we need economic government in Europe. In fact, the quote... We need what? Economic government. Here's the quote. We consider that the European Council should become the economic government of the United States of Europe. Economic government? Oh yeah. What does that mean? That means all your euros belong to us. Isn't that what the EU is anyway? Kind of? Yeah, but it's one thing for it to be that way, it's another to say it. And so when Rumpuy is like, oh, oh, oh, oh, because the British will freak out. The British don't want, you know, they already are not, you know, like stay away from our pound. We don't want any part of that. So now there's going to be economic government. So now it's been changed to le gouvernement économique.

1:35:06 And they're changing it in English to economic governance. Economic governance, that's what it is. Along those same lines... For climate change, which of course John you and I both know that this is really about the new world order taking over and paying all your taxes, your carbon taxes to, well it was going to be the United Nations, but now that the United Nations keeps stalling it can't actually get anything to happen. This is from the EU Observer. European Union leaders are now saying, well, maybe it should be the G20. Yeah, the G20 should be in charge of this. So finally they've got what they want. The G20 is going to be in charge of everything. That is going to be the true Starfleet command of the world. And actually it's the G20.5 because the Netherlands gets to sit on the panel even though they're not technically big enough to be a part of the G20.

CHAPTER 26 / 31 Discussion

Energy Star Program Fraud, Gas-Powered Alarm Clock

Federal investigators from the GAO successfully obtained Energy Star certifications for several fake products, including a gas-powered alarm clock and a space heater with flypaper attached. This exposure of the government's energy efficiency program is cited by the hosts as proof that "green" certification systems are often fraudulent and unverified.

energy star· gao· fraud· certification· green energy

1:36:07 So that's it? That's it, sounds right. Yay! Should I write a check now or later? Hey, I uh... Should I send it to Bush Clinton or should I send it to some of the dishrag guys? Hey, hey, hey, hey, let's not be demeaning about that. Search and rescue team, we just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. No, just send us cash. Just send your cash. Just send your cash. Fantastic. Quick one from the We Told You So files. You may not remember this because it was probably, wow, a year and a half ago we talked about the energy efficient, the Green Star label. Remember that? Oh yeah. Yeah, the classic. Yeah, big story in the Los Angeles Times. Federal investigators

1:37:04 who themselves submitted phony products such as a gas-powered alarm clock to the government's energy efficiency certification program found it easy to obtain approval for the devices. Among the bogus devices, so the feds actually put this into their own system. A room air cleaner that in the picture prominently displayed on the website of a fictitious company, an electric space heater with a feather duster and strips of flypaper attached to it was approved as energy efficient. I think our podcast should be entered. You know, we're pretty energy-efficient podcast totally We got to keep track of these stories because you know, we forget about them But then the stuff that we sometimes it's a week, but sometimes it's a year ahead of time. We'll say this is BS This is crap and that's why you should be supporting us. Damn it. I

CHAPTER 27 / 31 Discussion

Nano Foods, Monsanto MON810 Corn Pest

The segment covers the emergence of "nano foods" where nanoparticles are used to manipulate food texture and flavor without regulation. Additionally, a new pest called the Western bean cutworm is reportedly infesting Monsanto's MON810 genetically engineered corn. The hosts discuss how farmers are being sold more Monsanto insecticides to combat the failures of the original GMO crops.

nano foods· monsanto· gmo· western bean cutworm· greenpeace

1:38:07 By the way, there's a couple of things I'm gonna probably go after not this week, but it's there be coming up There's been a concerted effort against the raw milk producers again again. Oh man now. It's really getting nasty and I don't know what to do, but just you know part of the food the corrupt food business Well, there's there was something I read there was actually two things Here it is and this is another thing I believe we talked about Title of this and I guess this is from AOPAP regulated or not nano foods coming to a store near you. Did you hear about this? No, what's a nano food? Is it a mac and cheese? A $14 mac and cheese.

1:38:56 I'll read you a little bit from it. For centuries it was the cook in the heat of the fire that cajoled taste, texture, flavor and aroma from the pot. Today that culinary voodoo is being crafted by white-coated scientists toiling in pristine labs rearranging atoms into chemical particles never before seen. Formerly called molecular gastronomy. Right. This was all started by the guy in that great restaurant in Spain, Al Bully. He's the head of the whole idea. But now, I guess, structure, taste, color will all be determined by nanoparticles that'll be put into your food. And of course, we know so little about nanotechnology really, or certainly about the effects on our health.

1:39:47 So forget steroids in your chicken and stuff like that. We don't eat this crap anyway. We're not going to eat anything that somebody's created in a lab and is mass producing. Well, we hope not, but who knows? I mean, there's not going to be any regulation on it. Of course, it's almost impossible to not eat genetically engineered corn. Almost impossible at this point. Oh my God. Did you hear about what's happening with the Monsanto corn? Now what? Oh, here it is. Umm, let me see if I can, uh, the first thing I should probably do is, uh, play, uh... Monsanto!

1:40:23 Large-scale cultivation of genetically engineered corn is causing the spread of a new pest in the US corn belt. The Western bean cutworm is infesting the tips of the corn cobs. Massive damage is being reported from those regions where the corn is grown on large scale. The corn is known as MON810, sold as YieldGuard by Monsanto. Looks like it's sick. Did anybody not expect something like this to happen once in a while? I mean, with a monoculture like that? Well, we expected it, but... And by the way, it's not being reported anywhere. Of course not. Why bother? Jesse James has this Nazi chick. Yeah, he's got a Nazi chick, man. On behalf of Greenpeace, test biotech analyze many reports on the spread of the Western bean cutworm and exchange opinions with several experts.

1:41:21 The cause of the spread of the new pest is hardly known to farmers in the US. Yeah, right. Farmers have only been told how to identify infestation and which insecticides they can use. Oh, more Monsanto stuff to throw on the corn. Yum! Yeah, that's pretty bad. All right, well, I think I'll just go shoot myself. Allow me. Ouch. Let me just see if there's anything else.

CHAPTER 28 / 31 Discussion

South Korean Navy Ship, Russian Bomber Intercepts

The sinking of a South Korean navy ship is discussed alongside reports of the RAF intercepting Russian "Bear" bombers near British airspace. The hosts dismiss the claim that South Korean sailors were accidentally shooting at birds, suggesting a real military altercation occurred. They also touch on the vulnerability of the internet's physical infrastructure to targeted attacks.

south korea· north korea· russia· raf· cyber security

1:41:57 By the way, I'm not going to shoot myself, so if I wind up dead, you know the reason why. And I didn't do it. Anything we want to say about the South Korean Navy ship that went down? I don't, you know, I was looking into that. I haven't gotten an angle on it yet. Well, the one thing that made me laugh, so of course, you've got to believe that the North Koreans blew this thing out of the water. The thing you gotta laugh about is there was like a 15 minute gun salvo as the South Koreans were shooting at what later turned out to be a flock of birds. Now let me tell you one thing, I've been on a frigate. This shit is so technologically advanced with the thing called the goalkeeper on top. They know when something's coming from halfway across the world. And it's not gonna be a flock of birds that they're shooting at accidentally.

1:42:48 This is nuts. I mean there was an actual altercation that happened. And I think we'd have to know we'd have to understand more about the history of North and South Korea Which goes back to what 50s 51 52 John? And and how that whole thing happened by the way President Obama, I think he's actually taken North Korea off the list of the axis of evil Hmm. Well that may be give my opportunity for your wine tasting your cabernet with Kim Jong-il No Bordeaux's Oh Bordeaux's. I'm sorry News reports that the RAF has scrambled jets 20 times in the past year to intercept Russian aircraft over British airspace. Yeah, there was a recent report of a Russian bomber, a bear bomber flying over England. They were almost at Ireland. Yeah, what was that all about you think?

1:43:39 Now just kicking the tires, just testing the engine. I think they're just looking at, you know, it's like these people who cut these cables all over the US trying to deconstruct the network in such a way that they can find the one point where they can just blow up a, you know, one of the Nexus is one of the hub is one of the big nodes if they figure out way to blow up Maybe one or two of them and take the whole USA Internet down. I don't think I don't think can be done I don't I think I think it can be done, and I don't think so I don't think so I think it's beginning more and more centralized. You know I should have pulled the commercial. Did you see this new Cisco commercial?

CHAPTER 29 / 31 Discussion

Cisco Human Network Commercial, Police State Surveillance

A new Cisco commercial is critiqued for promoting a future where small towns are under constant high-tech police surveillance. The hosts describe the ad as "onerous" and "disgusting," arguing that it markets the infrastructure of a police state as a "new community." They note that such corporate messaging reinforces the need for listener-supported, non-commercial media.

cisco· surveillance· police state· 1984· george orwell

1:44:23 It's like a small town, girl pulls up, she parks out in front of some building and I guess her uncle or something is the local sheriff. And she meets him and says, oh, you know, let me show you our, she's, where's all the cops? God, I wish I had this commercial. Where's all the cops? She says, oh, come on into our command center. And there's like one cop sitting behind six or seven monitors. And then she sees someone actually towing her car. And then boom, it's like Cisco protecting you. We're really moving towards a police state. Yeah, I should find that commercial. You know, the funny thing that gets me about that sort of commercial is that

1:45:06 It's obviously, I mean the fact that you do a commercial like that which is somewhat onerous. The fact that Cisco signed off on it and the advertising agency signed off on it and everybody signed off on it without anybody saying this isn't the future that we want to see. This isn't a good thing. Nobody does that. Oh, that's a great idea. It'll sell more routers. It's the global skin that we talked about. This is the thing that they're promoting. This is their big product. Cisco, you know, they're huge in government contracts. Yeah, and God knows what they can pull out the back end of those things. I'm going to have an interview with somebody this week, I think, or maybe next week, one of the two, that is involved with the... For the noagendastream.com?

1:45:57 Might be actually I might actually record it That perfect I plan to oh here it is. Here's the commercial hold on a second Then I want to hear about your your interview. I think this is it Yeah, welcome to Lundenburg little town. Who's here? It's Ellen. Hey mayor wait. How you doing great? Would you like to see our new police department all right this way? Yes, completely networked So anything happening sues she's all good Is that my car? The new community. See it, live it, share it on the human network. Unbelievable. The new community. Look at that voiceover at the end. She sounds terrible. And do you hear the cameras go, and then listen to the tagline. The tagline is so... She's all good. Is that my car? The new community. See it, live it, share it on the human network. Cisco.

1:47:04 Live it, see it, share it. Live it, see it, share it. The new community, yay! The new community. Yay! 1984, George Orwell already discussed this new community. That's disgusting. There goes our underwriting from Cisco. Yeah, but that's the reason by the way we need your support because we this show cannot be ever can never be commercially It's just not gonna happen. It won't work. It won't work in the Cisco be a classic company, too You know, they got nothing but money to spend on stuff like this, but you know even Tesla Tesla automobiles is sponsoring NPR

CHAPTER 30 / 31 Discussion

Show Support, Mary Landrieu Defense Outro

The hosts conclude the episode by urging listeners to support the show through donations or by joining the knighthood layaway program. They announce a special clip to be played after the theme music featuring Senator Mary Landrieu defending herself against John McCain's "Louisiana Purchase" accusations. The show signs off from the Hilltop Watchtower and Northern Silicon Valley.

mary landrieu· john mccain· donations· knighthood· no agenda stream

1:47:41 I thought they were broke. No, I, uh, so they got some government bailout money. Nevermind. Oh, that's right. They did. No. Yeah. And they've got a nice little interactive, uh, underwriting. I mean, I don't, I don't want to call it an ad or a sponsorship or call it what you like, but yeah, no, it's just, uh, those guys. So will they ever say anything negative about Tesla? I don't know if there's anything negative to say, but will they like, uh, the BBC's a top gear, which has no commercials. and they tried out the Tesla, thing ran out of juice, they made fun of it. That would never happen on an NPR program. And we do need your support. Here's the ways you can do it. Besides the obvious just send us your cash, because we do need it. And we want to do more and we are a little low this week. In fact, are we growing at all or are we stagnated? Well, it depends. It depends on how you look at it. I think we're flat right now, but we can jack things up a little bit by

1:48:35 Well, no, we just need more support and there's two ways to get it. We need more listeners. We need everybody to get us two listeners each. Yeah, two listeners each. Call them on as douchebags. By the way, we're happy to do a happy birthday mentions for Cash. And you can always go to Dvorak.org slash blog Dvorak.org slash na or channel Dvorak comm slash and you know we should we one of these we haven't been promoting besides the fact that people should be making stickers and posting them all over the place where it's legal is We need to get some more nights because we're gonna do a ring by shortly and I do and did this and we're gonna do you know it's gonna be a one-shot think probably for the first 50 nights and if you

1:49:19 If you want to get in on that, you want to join me come Monday night. So you can do three donations of $333.33. We kick in the extra penny. If you've been on your own layaway or your own accounting and you're up to the $1,000 mark, let us know. We'll put you on the list for the rings. Of course, it's always excellent to get in on the $5 a month donation because that's the base that we're trying to build long term. And of course, the sustaining producers for the No Agenda stream We have the list now up at noagendastream.com. You'll see there's only one other link besides the actual stream and that's to the list of sustaining executive producers, sustaining associate executive producers, and founding.

1:50:04 And so we're giving you your props. Please change your Wi-Fi names to noagendashow.com or noagendastream.com with the password in the morning. Use that on your guest account. Put it in your email signature. What else have we missed, John? I think that's about it. I think we've got just about all the ways people can help us. And that is if you can't afford any money, a lot of people are broke, do listen to all the stories of people who donate money to the show and then magically get a job. Now, when we finish the show today, I do want to run a clip after the theme. Because I think people should just listen to this so we can kind of show that we do have some balance here. This is nobody reported this, of course.

1:50:52 this is not during the congressional uh... back and forth in the senate uh... maryland drew who was blamed for the so-called louisiana purchase which was considered by the republicans to be some sort of a scam to get her vote on the health care bill defends herself reciprocally in such a way that i have actually i take her side on this without question and she calls out of all people john mccain for being a basically a douche bag It's very interesting. It's a little long. It's not overly long, but it's five or six minutes, but it's worth listening to. So we'll play that after we close. Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California. In the morning, I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it appears to be a nice day today, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll talk to you again on Thursday, right here for the early service on No Agenda.

CHAPTER 31 / 31 Discussion

Mary Landrieu Senate Floor Speech, Louisiana Purchase Defense

In a Senate floor speech, Senator Mary Landrieu labels John McCain's "sweetheart deal" amendment a "stunt" written for television. She defends the Medicaid funding correction for Louisiana, explaining that the state's per capita income was inaccurately calculated following the devastation of Hurricane Katrina. Landrieu asserts the deal was public and not a bribe for her healthcare vote.

mary landrieu· john mccain· louisiana· medicaid· healthcare bill

1:51:55 on No one has a command of this budget in this entire body than a better handle on it than Kent Conrad. And I think he's spoken in some detail and depth about the significant cost reductions and deficit reductions that will occur because of our work. But I came down to speak specifically about the amendment just offered by the Senator

1:52:33 from Arizona. I actually went to the desk to get a copy of it because I wanted to read it for myself. I'd like to say this amendment is a stunt. that really doesn't deserve the time that I'm even going to give to explain the portion of it that refers to Louisiana. And the reason I say it's a stunt is because it's actually written for television or the internet. It's not written for any serious debate here. And in my view, it's beneath the senator from Arizona who at one time was a candidate for president of this country. The reason I say it's a stunt is because the words sweetheart are actually written in this amendment. Normally the only time I see that word is when my husband sends me a dozen roses on Valentine's Day, which he does most years, not every year, but most years. But to actually draft an amendment like this that actually uses the word sweetheart deal is really an insult.

1:53:33 to the people of our country and I would expect more from him. I've tried to explain this to him privately on any number of occasions. I've provided him with and his staff with every document they've ever requested and I'm here to say one more time the people of Louisiana do not deserve the derision from him or for any member of the Republican team, or by my Republican allies, because of asking for a correction in a formula that would have been devastating to the state of Louisiana or to any state that experienced the kind of catastrophic disaster that we did. This amendment that I got on might have been unknown to Senator McCain, but it was not a secret.

1:54:29 How would I know that? Because actually, I called a press conference with the governor of Louisiana, Republican governor, and announced it. That's why I know it wasn't a secret. And we didn't have one press conference together. We had three. I've explained to the senator from Arizona, just because he didn't know about it doesn't mean it was a secret. There are lots of things that happen in Washington. It's a big place. It's a big country that he doesn't know about. This is one of them. There were three press conferences called and our entire delegation wrote a letter, a public letter, which I have given to every reporter that's asked for it, asking for consideration for this.

1:55:22 Number three, how would I know it's not a secret? Because my legislature, which is represented by 50% Republican and 50% Democrat, unanimously passed it in a public forum. So the people of Louisiana that I represent, believe me, are sick and tired of hearing their name dragged through the mud. You want to drag a name through the mud, drag mine. But leave the people I represent out of it. When the health care debate came forward and we recognized at the governor's request, and I'd ask for 30 more, a minute more. You know I was going to say a minute more.

1:56:06 When the health care debate started, our governor recognized that without this change, the state of Louisiana would lose somewhere of about $450 million because under the formula that was calculated, which is done publicly, the federal government declared that the Louisiana per capita income had increased 40%. It's never happened in the history of the United States of America. No state in no year, in no decade, even with the gold rush, even with discovering oil, even with the greatest inventions in the world, no state's income has ever, ever gone up 40% and ours did not. The people I represent are not richer because of Katrina, we are poorer.

1:56:53 And I will make no backup a minute to ask for help for them. So all I've asked in this bill and we've gotten, and despite the effort on the other side to undo it, we will not undo it. All we're asking for is to let us pay the same Medicaid match that we have paid for the last 10 years, as long as I know Louisiana pays 30 cents, the federal government pays 70, and our people are covered. I ask for 30 more seconds and I promise I'll end here. We're not asking for special treatment. We're asking just to pay the same amount

1:57:29 amount of Medicaid as we have paid for the last 10 years. It was not done secretly, it was not done behind closed doors, and it was not done to buy my vote. My vote was given to this bill because this bill deserves it, because it's a very good piece of legislation. And I told the leader I would vote for it whether this was in it or not, but I am tired and I am not going to sit down and not defend the people of my state. Now the other members can speak about what they want. This isn't a sweetheart deal, it's a stunt from a senator that I would expect more from and I yield the floor. John C. Dvorak. Dvorak. What's that? Twit? I get no spam? Dvorak.org slash blog?