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00:00 It splashed down at exactly 0.7 Wow Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday April 12th 2026 this is your award-winning Kimmel Nation Media Assassination episode 1859 This is no agenda Day 43 of the Iran War and we're broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Refinery Row where it turns out that French are going to Linux and dropping Windows on John C. Dvorak Well, that's a good move by the French I would say. Yeah they said we're not putting up with this stuff anymore Why would you? It is so broken! Linux has its issues but at least you get to fix it yourself and Windows really really really is just a problem

00:58 You've been there, but you love Windows. You're a Windows guy. Mm-hmm Bring back OS 2! Yeah, OS2 was the best It was really good it was actually until they That's long although although it never really ran smoothly It seemed like I took up a lot of resources on those first early computers It would be kind of it. It wasn't it was also sabotaged by Microsoft It was. Really? Do you have proof of this? I don't have proof of anything Hey, JCD how are you feeling? How ya doing? How are you doing heart man? I'm hanging in there Yeah, how- I actually went to the meetup That's what i was gonna ask You went But we got rained out What do you mean In fact it was the worst rain squall I've ever been in California my entire life Was it outside

01:46 No, it was inside but there's you know but people aren't gonna come or do anything if its raining outside. Oh no because in California the minute rains like everyone becomes an idiot Yes this is true too They can't drive! They can't drive! What are we doing? Oh its raining that means I can go faster It keeps the tires cool And the mudslides are fun to avoid yeah thats great So the big question though, because we had our meetup in Fredericksburg which was fantastic I might point out. Yeah i'm sure it was sunny too We've had a lot of rain in the past few days It did not rain during the meetup?

02:23 But it was nice, it was a nice cool temperature. It was good we had a lot of people but everybody really wanted to know if any girls showed up in hot nurse uniforms No! Come on... These guys have no imagination So I do have quick boots on the ground I went to Austin On Friday To my hair girl Yes, to the hair girl. And things are so bad in Austin now she is certainly more liberal than anything but she's kind of left-of-center I'd say but she just a nice person who doesn't... She like me or whatever she doesn't care she doesn't get into fighting

03:14 But it's so and we talk about what we're watching on TV mainly, but we'll talk about cultural things. So I wonder what's going on with her clients because she has you know liberal 40 year old white women that's pretty much your client. Yeah perfect is perfect for the show. And yeah well we talked about what he'd been watching what shows and so we're talking says I'm gonna text you say what to my texts you something This is odd. I pick up my phone, she texts did you see the Melania documentary? I loved it! It was so fantastic She could not talk about this in her own salon Yeah Isn't that sad? That's the nature of things And then... So here are the big boots on the ground she says everybody i know is no longer having sex and he's getting cancer Wow

04:10 And my obvious thought was, oh Vax. Yeah that's the first thing I think of Well yes and no It could just be also there is a lot of peer reviewed whatever good that is study that definitely says that women have higher rates of cancer than they ever had before, but a lot of it is like increased cortisol immune suppression endocrine disruption. TDS basically and I believe that! It could be an element And then i was thinking about what about the no sex? And I said well what do you mean people aren't having sex anymore

04:56 But is this what your clients are saying? Yeah, I don't have any sex. And it took me the whole drive home and then Tina and I were talking about it and then ah of course antidepressants! Antidepressants well known to completely wreck your libido Right, yeah. Antidepressants... I mean- But most liberal women have are mentally ill that's already been determined right? Well there are some studies out there! I don't want to say they're mentally ill but I think they're over prescribed They could be And you look at the birth rate because I looked all this up The birth rate in Austin has just taken a nosedive No one is having sex no one making babies It's concerning

05:43 Yeah, I'd say yeah. I think the sicker part though is the fact that she has to text you and she's standing right there And yes, and it was because of Melania Hey, did you ever watch that Melania thing? I did yeah Oh, I liked it no like I couldn't watch it. I liked it You know I liked that She she has brought class back to the White House She has kind of a Jackie O vibe going on. Yeah, I liked her a lot! And that thought it was really too bad You know people just despise her Why? Well... She didn't do anything Do you mind if I have a Melania breakdown because when we finished up the show on Thursday I saw out of the corner my eye like oh what is this Melania talks live something going on and it wasn't all right I do have a clip on this to

06:42 Well, let's play your clip and then I'll do my breakdown. Where is my clip? It says Melania denies Jeffrey Epstein... How about Melinda on Epstein? MPR? Yeah! I got that too. That's Melinda Gates. But let me do this because i've got the full breakdown of Melania Play this Melania clip from my... it's a backgrounder. Yeah, that is exactly what I have! Okay here is the backgrounder. We do not know exactly why First Lady Melania Trump spoke out yesterday but she certainly did She denied ever having a relationship with the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein and with his co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. She also slammed reports and online rumors that she said connected her to Epstey. The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein

07:33 need to end today. Months ago, the Justice Department released some but not all files related to Epstein and Maxwell and personal correspondence in those files mentions Melania and her husband President Trump. NPR's Sage Miller has more For a first lady known for her mystique it was a surprising moment to see her deliver a forceful answer to a question no one seemed to have asked I am NOT Epstein's victim Epstein did not introduce me to Donald Trump. The first lady added she never traveled on his private jet or visited his island both trumps have denied any wrongdoing or knowledge of Epstein's alleged crimes the first lady also addressed an email she sent Maxwell that was released by the Justice Department my email reply to Maxwell cannot be categorized as anything more

08:28 than casual correspondence. Each and every woman should have her day to tell her story in public if she wishes. It's unclear why the first lady decided to speak out now, but some Democrats in Congress have called on her to testify as part of the House Oversight Committee's investigation into Epstein. Oh yeah this was so much better than most people read it

09:09 And it didn't take long to figure it out. But first, let's look at the typical take from your mainstream audience. I don't know, let's take Jimmy Kimmel Live. This was pretty much all the Twitter threads and even, I'm sure the blue cry threads of what had happened here? And why is this happening today he spent the past six weeks trying to bomb this Epstein story out in the headlines two days after the ceasefire she puts it right back on top I love this. Well, you know like he tried to bomb Iran to get rid of the Epstein stuff and now his wife is bringing it back or no She must really hate him Of course

09:55 So then a reporter gets hold of Trump, calls his phone. He says I didn't know anything about this statement Melania made he didn't know she was gonna do it before she did it which shows you just how smoothly things are running over there for whatever reason she didn't ask she didn't give him a heads up She just went right out in front of the cameras and fired away I am NOT Epstein's victim I am my husband's victim. This initial encounter with my husband is documented in a detail in my book, Melania. Only a member of the Trump family could turn defiant speech about a pedophile into a plug for her book? Five and half minutes speech she demanded that Congress let the victims testify under oath which is something Donald most definitely does not want to happen Okay

11:02 So you expect dumbness from Jimmy Kimmel and there's also always a couple of dumb trolls in the troll room like, well he's not wrong. Yeah because... Of course now he went to war with Iran to cover up the Epstein stuff yeah that makes sense so Megyn Kelly who has a team you know I was talking to Tina about this does Megyn Kelly still have producers? She got old teams, she got staff Who's a lawyer, and this is her view of what happened. This has been over. The administration has been doing its level best to move on from Epstein, which clearly is what Trump has wanted for months now. Epstein? Who's still talking about Epstein? Then he threatened Lauren Boebert, he threatened Nancy Mace, he threatened Thomas Massey, he threatened MTG when she was still back in Congress pushing for more disclosures on Epstein.

11:59 Trump did not want any more coverage of Epstein. And Todd Blanche, who's now the acting AG said we're done disclosing. AG DOJ done disclosing on Epstein kind of putting an unofficial period to the whole story. Now the first lady of the United States comes out and demands more hearing. Okay so some of these women did testify before Congress. They went in, in September remember? Some of them stood out in front of the Capitol and they spoke into the microphones that day of that and like this has happened already

12:38 And now, instead of saying right on Melania thanks for standing up for us and making sure every single one of us can testify before Congress or whatever. I don't really know what Melania is calling forward and I don't know what the victims want at this point either most of them have been paid out by this Epstein fund already if they have legit claims or in some cases even if they Might not, but we're able to convince somebody. In any event they're not happy about this the victims don't seem happy about this I'm so confused are you confused me too? I'm so confused! I'm a lawyer i have staff and I am so confused This comes back to what has been bugging you and me about this John is these victims What are they victims of what exactly have the victims...what is their claim

13:24 So I go back, look at the whole congressional record. Oh yeah! There's been about three of them who have testified but not a single one has testified in open Congress They've only testified to the committee about the handling of the Epstein files There's been no testimony about what happened to them, likely because they already got paid off and they're under NDA. But there are a couple of interesting things happening that I mean...I had to go search for it And the first one is because NPR didn't play it, I don't know if anyone else bothered playing it but she is suing media outlets Good afternoon The lies linking me with the disgraceful Jeffrey Epstein

14:09 need to end today. The individuals lying about me are devoid of ethical standards, humility and respect I do not object to their ignorance but rather reject their mean-spirited attempts to defame my reputation. I never been friends with Epstein Donald and I were invited to the same parties as Epstein from time to time, since overlapping in social circles is common in New York City and Palm Beach. To be clear I never had a relationship with Epstein or his accomplice Maxwell." So this is going to play almost into your theory about high-end hookers

15:11 But one step before that is all of these girls who want to be models. I mean, this is the same as Weinstein just like Christina's friend who you know kind of friend who the Dutch girl The model whose texting was emailing and texting Epstein Hey, hey Jeffrey Oh, I really want to be a Victoria Secret model. I can't wait to see you when I come to New York I mean, this is nothing out of the ordinary. Now Epstein went to jail kind of for soliciting a minor who was 14 at the time but i'm pretty sure every single one of these victims in Congress was 16 or older and legal in whatever state they were in but this story of Melania being trafficked to Trump by Epstein

16:02 She's suing people. As she should and I'm talking like big, and she mentions this which is what NPR... This is the only other Melania clip and then I can get into some of these others it's funny My attorneys and I have fought these unfound and baseless lies with success And will continue to maintain my sound reputation without hesitation To date Several individuals and companies have been legally obligated to publicly apologize and retract their lies about me, such as Daily Beast.

16:42 James Carville and Harper Collins. This I like what James Carville? Yeah, he slandered her and he had to apologize here it is in last week's podcast episode we spoke with Judd Legum after the episode We received a letter from Melania Trump's lawyer He took issue with our title of one of those YouTube videos from that episode and a couple comments I made about the first lady. We took a look at what they complained about, and we took down the video and edited out those comments from the episode. I also take back these statements and apologize." I've never heard Carville take anything back! Have you?

17:25 No. That guy doesn't take anything back, so they're serious... He usually gets called out to do it I'm sorry? It usually does not get called out Oh! To do it no They just assume he's a lunatic and ignore him But this is really about Michael Wolff And Wolff, he is hammering on his podcast and this thing is from the Daily Beast who also are being sued that he maintains that this modeling agency guy

18:01 pimped out Melania to Epstein and Epstein pimped her out to Trump. And he keeps saying it! Right, so I've always thought that Melania is a key part of the puzzle what happened with Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump? Melania sheds an enormous amount of light. Melania with her relationship both to Epstein and then how she came into her relationship with with Donald Trump. And also I think the world of modeling right because at the time... Central to this story okay so we have a question from Carla Bruckner

18:37 There is one character in this story who seems to have flown under the radar, Paolo Zampoli. No one as far as I know has ever delved into how and under what circumstances he brought Melania to NYC. We know he was a modeling agency... Well, I can guarantee we are delving and will continue to delve Okay, so we have all had a masterclass in the heinous behavior of multiple model agency owners but somehow Zampoli has evaded scrutiny. He arranged... Well he will no longer evade that scrutiny. Okay good because she's just reminding us he arranged the party at the Kit Kat Club where Melania said she met her future husband but he is still very much apart of the inner circle as he is currently the... Oops I killed it anyway

19:29 This is why Melania is calling for sworn testimony from all of the victims on the congressional record in Congress. Very specifically, she says this which NPR cut out because then it will all come to light what really is going on here and that as a but like the Jean-Luc Brunel who suicided himself another one of these modeling agency guys. These are the sleazeballs! Then, of course they're doing this. This is like duh? This happens all the time that's why she's very specific to say I am NOT a victim of Epstein no because she probably met Trump at the Kit Kat club because she was there as a model but yeah but she wasn't pimped out and she probably wasn't whoring around like all the other women sorry to say it so she specifically asks

20:19 for this to be on the record, on the Congressional... I'll just play it. Here it is. I call on Congress to provide the women who have been victimized by Epstein with a public hearing specifically centered around the survivors Give these victims their opportunity to testify under oath in front of Congress with the power of sworn testimony Each and every woman should have her day to tell her story in public if she wishes, and then her testimony should be permanently entered into the congressional record. Then – only then – we will have the truth."

21:07 Thank you. So why on the congressional record? Because if you go before Congress and you're on the, on the record and it goes... You know it's a congressional hearing. You can break an NDA I didn't know this But, but if Congress asks you questions under oath and you have an NDA then you cannot be penalized in any civil way for breaking that NDA. And wouldn't you know it? None of the so-called victims who...of course were not victims of anything illegal they just were trying to get ahead in life can't blame them for that either they don't want to admit that and oh!

21:44 There's our friend Gloria Allred. She's representing him the first lady is now money To actually focus in more on Epstein's crimes with this statement and the women that he victimized Joining us right now here in studios Gloria all red she as an attorney whose represent represents several of the women abused by Jeffrey Epstein Laura Thank you so much for being here What is your reaction what you heard from the first lady? Well, first I'm very glad that she suggested that it's important the Congress have a hearing and allow the survivors to testify. I'm in support of that. I know my client Alicia Arden and others would be in support of that, not... Of course not all survivors agree with that. No! Of course it's true. But I think it should be a choice for the survivors whether to testify or not. Please don't force them to do it because then the truth might come out. They should not be subpoenaed to testify they should be invited to testify and say whatever they want to say about their

22:45 abuse by every Jeff Jeffrey Epstein, or anyone else. So she's running cover like well no they shouldn't be forced to testify they need to build the say no and it's these farmer sisters they're the ones that are going in and all they're doing is talking about how they've been victimized by Pam Bondi and President Trump oh no he's victimized us by releasing stuff this is I think Trump is right this has always been a Democrat setup And they got a huge bonus, which they weren't expecting is the Epstein Mossad blackmail kiddie fiddling whatever. Israel runs America and Trump and his wife are coordinating now like shut up forever or we're going to haul you in front of Congress and have to go on the record! Of course most of the survivors are going no thanks Gloria thank you for being here Thank you very much I really appreciate it

23:43 A group of survivors then put out a statement saying that the first lady was shifting the burden to them. They wrote in part, survivors of Jeffrey Epstein have already shown extraordinary courage by coming forward filing reports and giving testimony asking more of them now is a deflection of responsibility not justice So this is one big ball of crumb It's stupid. Crumb! This is all I could come up with, it's just stupid these women know very well how they got in that position they got paid off by Jamie Dimon shut up just shut up here's your NDA here's your money just like Neil Weinstein has had his version of that and the whole thing was weaponized by if all people Reed Hoffman

24:33 Remember that, I don't know if you ever saw that commercial where the victims have tape over their mouth and like we're not allowed to talk. None of them has spoken ever none of them none of us ever testified so this is what this thing is about is shut up or put up and they're not gonna no one's gonna want to testify because there's nothing there Except for Epstein being a creep. Oh surprise yeah, big deal Yeah, well actually yeah We'll track it. Yeah this is not nothing that nothing else will happen now You know that Congress is not gonna Force them to testify or we can't have that because then the jig is up say how old were you? Yeah 18 oh what were you doing I was trying to get a modeling contract okay? This is it yeah and hey

25:29 That's how a lot of the world works. If that is what we want to do, then fine but this was weaponized. Alright I think you made your point. Thank you Let us at least get a couple things out of the way. Top news stories? Yes Now everybody thinks it's all fake? No! What?! Tonight, Splashdown. Splashdown confirmed 10 days after lifting off from Kennedy Space Center and traveling further than any human has traveled before A new chapter of the exploration of our celestial neighbor is complete Those four Artemis II astronauts are now home. All four crew members are in excellent shape The Orion spacecraft landing in the Pacific off Southern California just after 8 p.m. Eastern Time We have crossed the threshold now

26:18 Entering the Earth's atmosphere. They entered the Earth's atmosphere traveling 32 times the speed of sound, 45 times faster than a commercial airliner! That heat shield protecting the astronauts from temperatures up to 5,000 degrees. The heat and plasma knocking out all communications between crew and mission control for six excruciating minutes. They knew this would happen... This was the moment they regained contact. Integrity Houston, comm check post blackout Houston, Integrity. We have you loud and clear. And there go the first series of parachutes... Those parachutes deploying slowing the spacecraft down to about 20 miles an hour before it hit the water. ...sending post-landing command now.

27:02 You can hear it. The crew carefully brought out of the spacecraft by Navy divers, one at a time. Commander Reid Wiseman the last one to be removed. Reid Wiseman out of the vehicle all four crew members now out of integrity It's the culmination of a 10-day nearly 695 thousand mile journey around the far side of the moon breaking the record traveling further from the earth than any human has before and why do people think its fake? I don't know Well you said it! No I'm just saying, and you see there's all... You go on Reddit or... And you'll find tons of threads. This is fake this is here's why Yeah It's more fun to say it was real. I mean no one has explained the Van Allen belts to me that never came up. It wasn't even mentioned? Was it all... Is the van allen belt bullcrap

27:58 As far as I know it's real and it's supposedly very dangerous, and there is radiation. No one ever said these are special radiation suits... They never say well we snuck over here where the words really low when you can get through in five seconds? No! They never even mention it? That bothers me too. Yeah, and I'm just not impressed okay so he flew around the moon Well didn't Apollo 11 do that to Yeah. They went around the dark side of the moon, oh this one went further... Okay! It went further out. And you've got beautiful pictures of Earth... Same old pictures. Beautiful pictures of the moon. Zoom in on the flag

28:38 People know that flags bleached out. They've already said soon Oh Pardon, well zoom in on the bleached-out flag they can look at a bald spot on your head from space on earth You're telling me if they couldn't zoom in on the flag and say it's bleached out And what's with the there is what's with the missing pixels you hear this? There was no yeah there was some some picture and in the black of space where there's no stars It's always baffling to me There's light pollution. I mean, the moon itself is a light polluter. I've never bought into the argument that you can't see the stars if you're on the moon and the suns bouncing off of it. The thing it so bright its like being on a giant light bulb we cant see...I cant see star from Berkeley because there too much light pollution So I don't think thats focused to me At full moon in Fredericksburg I can see plenty of stars

29:39 Well, you don't have light pollution then. Of course we have light... whatever the pixels so in the black of no star space there's little pixels that are white and people like what's this? And NASA says oh no those pixels they just got lost it's a glitch This is 2026 And the pixel glitch that went away with Apple's Notebook, Apple 2 color, Color 2 notebook. We had five pixels missing this is Anyway so what? So what 20 billion dollars great Okay I'm not impressed and you are obviously you're not know but you're not either well Hmm. I don't think so

30:26 I'm not that impressed. No, I am impressed by the precision they said about an hour before it lands is gonna land it's gonna splash down at o7 and Despite all the variables with the opening of the parachutes, it splashed down at exactly 0.7. Wow! I was impressed by that. Oh, it's impressive. So okay another news story then let's move to this one. Firebombing Oh yeah, Sam Altman's home. That was interesting. Tonight San Francisco authorities are investigating a brazen firebombing attack at the home of Sam Altman the CEO of OpenAI one of the leading artificial intelligence companies in the world. A law enforcement source says this image obtained by the San Francisco Standard shows the suspect

31:23 Someone threw a Molotov cocktail slash sticky bomb at the gate of Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI's residence. Police responding to the home shortly after 4am that Molotov cocktail setting an exterior gate on fire then less than an hour later police say the same suspect threatened to burn down OpenAI headquarters. There was subject threatening to burn down the building security see subject holding a jug claims there's a kerosene in it. Authorities arresting the 20-year old man and tonight Sam Altman breaking his silence posting this touching image of his family saying quote normally we try to be pretty private but in this case I am sharing a photo in the hopes that it might dissuade the next person from throwing a Molotov cocktail at our house yeah, I think this is just the beginning

32:11 What do you think? The problem with this news coverage, you know this is a good story. Can't they get us the motive? Well no! You can't be rocking the boat and I'm sure some AI companies are... Look everyone's getting sponsored by Anthropic these days Roganzo even... No Perplexity. They're sponsoring people and we're not supposed to rock the boat about AI And they also don't care This is a human interest story. Sam Altman and his family, oh look he's gay he has a family that's the point of the story I don't know obviously this guy is mad because his whole life has been destroyed He started talking to his Chad GPT and just became lonelier

33:01 Which is what the research shows. And maybe it was this guy, you know you played one of those... You play that guy with the piano music where he's asking chat GPT stuff and it gives him stupid answers? Yeah! It's great So I got one of those for ya so this guy uh is going to run a mile And he's going to tell his... Oh yes, I've seen this one. This is funny He's gonna tell his chatbot the time and he starts the timer and says within six seconds okay i'm back I'm gonna run a mile and you just time me how long it takes okay when I say go You got it! I'll be ready Just say Go when you start and I'll keep track Okay ready? GO

33:45 Alright, I've started timing just focus on your runs and I'll be here when you get okay. I'm back Welcome back. I've got your time right here How do you feel about that? Well how long was it what you clocked in at around 10 minutes and 12 That's where as faster than that Sometimes it feels faster in the moment no like I think I was closer to like two seconds Oh, if only time worked that way. But I promise i'm giving you the real time You timed me for 10 minutes? I promise I didn't sneak any extra seconds in there but If you want to go for a shorter faster Okay but like if you're not able to do this you can admit it's okay It's totally okay to double check me but I promise i'm doing my best So you got ten minutes right they took me ten minutes Yep yep yeah perfect these things lie

34:48 To make you feel good. Yeah, they lie So I think that's a... This is not the bubble burst thing yet but it will Onward to the next item. I was gonna say something else, what's wrong with you? Are you bored with everything today? Everything is boring you? I'm pretty bored yeah right. Well then snap out of it! There is more AI stuff okay if you got AI material I am all ears. I was just going to say well no never mind let us do something else. I got AI material. I've fixed our robot

35:27 Oh, hold on a second. Let me write this down time What was the time and date? Yes Okay And would you like this robot has yet to be fixed Would you like to ask a question of said robots because the robot we've brought back a familiar name The robot is now the book of knowledge We have we have brought the book of knowledge back and go ahead Asked me a question I'll ask the Book of Knowledge Hello Robot how old is Adam Curry today all that How old is Adam curry today? According to the book of knowledge, Adam Curry was born on September 3rd 1964. Making him 62 years old today on April 12th 2026 Thus... It has been written. Oh brother!

36:23 The robot, the robot is fixed. You've added a bunch of flourishes Of course I have! Hey what other podcast has the book of knowledge? None of course we were the only ones But here's the thing Adam Curry was born on September 3rd 1964 making him 62 years old today...I'm pretty sure i'm 61 Oh it's wrong Of course it's wrong. When you need it, it does work. It's there for us. We're going to use a couple of times during the show. Okay good. Since we are talking about AI and Altman I do have to...I promised this clip This is Dylan Farrow came out with this story that ran in The New Yorker Oh! This is the Woody Allen kid

37:14 Yeah, Mia Farrow. The good-looking kid... No the Mia Farrow and JFK Jr., or whatever. No no this is Frank Sinatra. Oh Frank Sinatra that's right! I forgot she was a victim of Frank Sinatra yes And he.. This is a little interview they had with him this is Farrow on Altman ultimately a few years after the founding of OpenAI, this was in late 2023. Was fired by board members and executives who simply felt he was lying too much. Yeah of course! He got fired? Yeah it was... And uh and he wound up kicking that effective altruism girl off of the board and brought him- He managed to worm his way back in good work But he would but he was fired specifically because the board had lost

38:01 trust in him, it was a lack of confidence. This is an extraordinary thing Katie Silicon Valley is built on hype empty promises right valuations that skyrocket long before there's a product that actually works for anyone this is on such a scale that even with that baseline expectation where frankly I think we've entered an era where people just embrace as a cost of doing business a degree of dissembling Sam Altman appears to have been doing it so much that it was almost all anyone could talk about after dealing with him. And we interviewed more than 100 people and we uncover hundreds of pages of internal records

38:39 A majority of those people really did say some variation on the theme of he's a pathological liar. Actually, multiple people unprompted by us used the term sociopath and this is everything from very minor things we document earlier cases in his career where also there were efforts to force him out of jobs amidst allegations of dishonesty and at one early start up you know he was claiming to everyone that he was a champion ping pong player And then they played ping pong in the office, and he was one of the worst players in the office. Sam, his responses on each of these are documented in the piece I Hope You'll Look. He says on that, I was probably joking. But then it also extends to serious cases. Before his firing there was a situation where he assured board members that the most controversial features of a new model had been safety tested

39:27 Turns out they hadn't when they looked into that. There was a breach where a new untested model was leaked into India to the public, and he didn't mention that in hours of briefing with board members. We talk about how these concerns about honesty deepened the rift with that competitor I mentioned, Dario Amadei. There's a moment in this piece where There's been an investment from Microsoft. They're doing a big deal with Microsoft, and Sam is assuring Dario Amadei that Microsoft has not inserted any provisions that override the company's safety provisions that are in their own charter. And Sam says this provision that might threaten the safety concerns is not there, and Dario literally points to it

40:12 and brings in another colleague to verify that it's there. And then Sam says, oh well you know sure but who cares? So what's Farrow doing with this is this going to be a book or is it gonna be the documentary what is right now started off as a large New Yorker piece uh-huh it's available right now and I should send it to you for the show notes...I didn't Maybe roll it out as an AI book of some sort. It would be a good idea Well, here's what I learned over the past few days You know all these data centers everyone's you know scrambling the hyperscalers to get data centers so we can run all this stuff and everybody can get instant knowledge on demand

40:57 I'm doing some vibe coding. You should ask JC about this, and so i need because... ...I don't want to necessarily use these big frontier models from all these companies for two reasons one already they're jacking up the price then they're doing it in interesting ways where Anthropic with Claude they have these timeout windows the way they price it So you have a, for $100 a month you get X amount of model usage but then after four hours they time you out and you have to wait two hours before we can get back on. And all of the sudden everyone's noticing that early in the morning it's not four hours but is 2 hours

41:43 So they were speeding up the timeline that you could use it, which is the same as charging you more money. Because you can add on $25 and get more if you want. They're already jacking up the price and they say oh no we're doing it differently now We are going to make a double speed between 8am-11am Pacific Standard Time This this is how bad it is How much they are undercharging So that's part one. And part two is I don't trust them, so I want to run like whisper models for getting transcripts and doing a couple other things and i find these two companies RunPod and Vast and you can rent like a 5090 which is a NVIDIA card so the 5090 thing is their Blackwell or whatever that chip was one of the most modern ones You can rent it for about 30 cents an hour

42:39 And it turns out that these companies are front companies for some dude's gaming computer. So, instead of getting... What? Yes. In Estonia! So instead of locking into a data center and renting a GPU anybody can see you can earn money You got a gaming computer? Just put it up on Vast and then people can rent it from you This is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen They're completely routing around this whole data center thing I thought it was fantastic. Wow! Yeah, some dude playing World of Warcraft and then I'll stop playing and make 15 cents an hour off a curry It's great So once this stuff gets out we'll see But we can't have it now because Trump can't use that because he is too busy with war

43:33 And we might as well play the hot news of the day. This is the breaking, breaking, breaking news from this morning... There was a real sense of optimism as Vice President J.D. Vance arrived in Islamabad along with Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff and the president's son-in-law Jared Kushner Just hours earlier, the Iranian delegation had also arrived in the capital city led by the Speaker of Parliament Mohammed Bagher Ghalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Arjieh. It was hosted by the Pakistanis who helped broker this ceasefire so that talks could happen at a first high level face-to-face meetings between top American and Iranian political leaders since the 1979 revolution

44:12 And after 21 hours of marathon talks, including multiple calls to President Trump. Vice president Vance emerged at 6am local time We've made very clear what our red lines are What things we're willing to accommodate them on and what things were not willing to accommodate them on and uh...we may that is clear as we possibly could and they have chosen not to accept our terms According to Vance, the key sticking point was Iran's refusal to agree never develop a nuclear weapon. Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesman Ismail Baghaie said the US made quote excessive demands but downplayed the apparent breakdown. One should not have expected that we could reach an agreement in a single session he said and while that may not have been the Iranian delegation expectation end punishing six-week war the U.S. delegation left the talks

45:02 more definitively. Do you have anything on this? I got a couple more things here, but do you have any... I have a bunch of stuff. But yeah, this is a joke Well it seems like they've just come down to one thing and the one thing is that you can't make nuclear material And they balked at that Yeah they definitely want to do that But if you listen to... Who was this? This is CBS maybe it's... Who's the girl on CBS Face The Nation

45:56 They said that's uh Brennan, Margaret Brennan. Yeah so she She's so out of her mind With with Trump with the trump algo which I guess she still hasn't seen how it works That she has on Mike Turner He's the republican from Ohio and the chairman of the house permanent select committee on intelligence And she won't even let him talk for her Just outrage over the president and his handling of the war. So you said the President has been very clear here in his goals and intent, our polling shows that American people aren't persuaded in the same way you are Let me run through some things he said on the Hormuz Strait At the outset of the war March 3rd He said the Navy would begin escorting tankers no matter what The US will ensure free flow energy to the world

46:39 March 9th, he said he was still thinking about taking it over. March 15th, he said it was someone else's problem our allies would take care of that maybe we shouldn't even be there We don't need it! We have a lot of oil Six days later, he threatened online the US would attack Iran's power plants if it didn't open the street within 48 hours. March 26th he went back to blaming allies saying he is disappointed in NATO- Margaret and then there's going to be a conflict that is going to be fluid. He announced two weeks ceasefire saying Iran had agreed to open this straight I'm not done because yesterday he said that CENTCOM announced they're sending two ships to set the conditions for clearing mines this morning. He said the Navy is going to start blockading

47:19 Is that the final answer? I mean, can you see here why the public doesn't think- Your adversary has a clear strategy. Your adversary has a vote in this too and they have a position at two which there were just negotiations just yesterday. They change with the day. Just yesterday there were negotiations and literally Iran had an opportunity just yesterday to say to the world we're not going to pursue a nuclear weapon So, oh the president confused Margaret. Yes of course and part of this you know before J... I was lucky to get this before JD Vance left for Islamabad and we cannot overlook the fact that this is Pakistan clearly negotiating on behalf of China because China needs the oil We don't need the oil! I mean for..we need this oil for what tar? And asphalt You're the oil guy

48:15 No, the Venezuelan oil does that. So what do we need? The Iranian oil! We don't need that at all. Okay here's a question then because everyone keeps asking me this if we don't get our oil from Iran and we have our own oil and we make gasoline to drive our cars why is the price of gasoline so expensive everywhere because when the price of oil goes up us American companies take a look at the market and say, hey we can sell the oil on the open market for more money than we can just using it here. And so let's take advantage of the moment and make a few extra bucks if we have to jack up the price of the local oil because you know it is international product

49:01 And so it's like a fool, you'd be an idiot not to just sell at higher price. That is exactly what I said this is the open market have you ever noticed that the gas stations in America have digital signs and that number changes sometimes five times a day? Yeah Because that's how it works right? We do we have suppressed the possibility of going through the roof But at the same time these guys are, I mean your Exxon Mobil Chevron you're going look at this. Look at the opportunity here And then people say well how come it was so low for so long? It's just it's the same market like the Chevron goes down by five cents Exxon goes oh crap We got to go down by six cents and then H-EB You know cuts it by ten cents Yeah That's the American way

49:52 But people don't realize how anything works. So I'm glad we're here to explain it. So Vance says something interesting because we had all of these 10-point plans, 15 point plans 30 point plans no point plans special frequent flyer point plans And he laid out exactly where all this nonsense came from. the normal issues of public policy, it actually affects peace and war. And here's what I mean So in the past couple of days i've seen a lot of reporting from the American media about the 10-point proposal that the Iranians have made Now as I know because I've been involved in this there are three different ten point proposals at least that I've seen floating around

50:51 The first 10-point proposal was something that was submitted and we think frankly it was probably written by chat GPT That's admitted to Steve Whitcoff and Jared Kushner that immediately went in the garbage and was rejected There was a second ten point proposal. That was much more reasonable that was based on some back-and-forth between us between the Pakistanis And between the Iranians, that is the ten point proposal that the president was referencing his truth yesterday and then frankly I I've seen a third 10-point proposal that's even more maximalist than the first 10 point proposal, that has been floating around various social media channels. Now here is what is interesting about all this... Is that I have seen various organs, The New York Times, CNN and others pick up and run

51:32 the original 10-point proposal based on little more than a random Yahoo in Iran submitting it to public access television in the country of Iran and then them saying that somehow represents the negotiating position of the government. It's the equivalent of somebody, let's say a Democratic councilman in Boise Idaho saying something crazy the local public access TV picking up that crazy statement and then The New York Times running that as the position of the President of the United States. It doesn't make an ounce of sense. Vice-President Vance still sucking in the assumption that Wayne's World exists, who still has public access television? Not to mention it... Was this the Iranian Wayne's World put something through Chad GPT and New York Times picked it up I wouldn't put it past them

52:24 Yeah, I wouldn't either. And the whole fact that Vance is doing this...I find this to be um... Not Rubio? Yeah and well here's... I agree with you there's something fishy about it. Well here's... I think it's done on purpose so that so he's so it's designed to fail. Well here's the Bloomberg version of it Who is going to be attending? We know on the U.S side it's going to be JD Vance, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner so all familiar names. Reportedly on the Iranian side we have the Speaker of the House Mohammad Ghalibaf alongside the Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Arrakshi as well but I should just say

53:02 As a reminder, the positions and starting points are still so far apart in terms of what the U.S is demanding out of Iran and what Iran is saying they would like to see in terms for their part are saying that there should be no nuclear enrichment. They insisting that Iran should dismantle all of their nuclear sites, they should limit their ballistic missile capabilities and of course this is crucial to the Lebanon discussion stop all support for proxies Iran they are maintaining that... Oh crap I think this is the wrong one hold on a second ah this makes me mad I got my clips mixed up

53:46 Well, the Bloomberg take was this JD Vance was pushed forward to take this because he here it is. This is the one Vice President JVPBS dances warning Iran not to play the US as he heads for negotiations aimed at ending the war. As the president United States said if the Iranians are willing to negotiate in good faith or certainly willing to extend the open hand If they're going to try to play us then they're gonna find that that receptive. President Donald Trump has tasked the member of his inner circle who seemed to be the most reluctant defender of the six week old conflict, to now find a resolution. Vance has long been skeptical of foreign military interventions

54:30 The Republican vice president set off on Friday to lead mediated talks with Iran in Pakistan. We're looking forward to the negotiation, I think it's gonna be positive. Vance's trip comes as a tenuous temporary ceasefire appears to be on the precipice of collapsing. The chasm between Iran's public demands and those from the US and its partner Israel seem irreconcilable. And in the US where Vance might ask voters in two years to make him the next president There is growing political and economic pressure to wrap it up. See, I think it's the opposite! I'm with you! I think this is to have Vance fail so Rubio can be the guy Yeah, I think Rubio has been dubbed the guy who will be the go-to guy Here are a series of clips from NPR Morning Edition about Vance and how he was set up to go there

55:20 This weekend's negotiations to end the war with Iran put some pressure on Vice President J.D. Vance. Yeah, Vance is leading the U.S team that will meet for talks in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan It's a big role for an Iraq War veteran whose political brand included opposition to American wars in the Middle East His task now is to bring together two countries that have been enemies for almost half a century. Coming up we'll discuss all this with Nicholas Burns who was once the lead US negotiator on Iran's nuclear program and U.S. ambassador to NATO in the wake of the 9-11 attacks First let's get a preview love the negotiations NPR White House correspondent Daniel Kurtzleben is covering the story, Daniel good morning Hey good morning Why would the White House send JD Vance to negotiate? Well you know he has been asked how he got pulled into all these negotiations and specifically

56:13 if those previous non-interventionist statements you all mentioned, if those might be a reason why he's been involved. And he has also been asked if Iranians requested that he'd be in negotiations. Vance responded to all of that by demurring saying he would be surprised if that is true He really tried to downplay his role here saying that he just thought he could make a difference and that's why he was there. Oh man! Did he not see this coming? I guess not. Let's go to two. But it has been reported that Vance was initially, within this administration a loud voice against this war so there is some logic to him playing a part in trying to end it Not to mention if he wants to run for say the presidency in 2028 He'd probably like to be able to say that helped end a conflict that a lot of people disliked

57:03 But all of that said Trump laid out a sort of classic vice presidential trap last week at an Easter breakfast Here's what he had to say about peace negotiations. So if it doesn't happen, I'm blaming JD Vince If it does happen, I'm taking full credit You know It sounds jokey but Trump does love claiming a win and he doesn't like taking responsibility for losses What is gonna make it tough for Vance to get to a win here? Well, he's trying to broker a permanent peace between parties that don't even agree on what the current ceasefire is. For example, a big goal is to make sure the Strait of Hormuz is open but that strait doesn't appear to be fully open right now even after the ceasefire and where things stand there has been really unclear Trump this week even floated the idea of the US and Iran together charging fees for ships to pass through though He didn't explain any further how that would work

57:56 And that said, though yesterday on social media Trump posted that Iran better not be his words charging tankers right now to pass through. But besides the straight there's enriched uranium press secretary Caroline Leavitt has said it's a red line that Iran turned that over But that's after President Trump has waffled on that issue last week He said in an interview that he doesn't even care about the uranium and again here Trump has floated The idea of cooperating on social media this week. He suggested the US and Iran dig up uranium together I actually got a clip of him him saying that yeah, why don't we just charge fees together? Yeah I heard that too. The real problem is they you know if they hadn't have buried the enriched uranium with their own bombs yes it could have captured it and gotten out of there but now this stuff's...it's a nightmare! I think as a thing was there was some

58:56 some error in strategy. Let's go to part three. Okay, so how do you think Vance is likely to take up that challenge? Well we don't have a track record to look at prior to being the VP Vance was a senator from Ohio and only for two years So he doesn't have a lot of international experience But he's been less than diplomatic in the lead up to these negotiations, we can say that. Because when asked about accusations from the Speaker of Iran's Parliament that the US had violated points of ceasefire this week, Vance had this to say about that speaker... I actually wonder how good he is at understanding English because there are things that he said that frankly didn't make sense in some of it and the context of negotiation that we've had

59:38 Now, that doesn't mean Vice President Vance will be disagreeable or anything at the negotiating table. But it does show that like his boss he can be harsh. Yeah, that was interesting I got the longer version of him talking about Ghalibaf is the guy's name and this guy seemingly kind of came out of nowhere to be THE negotiator here's the full clip of what JD Vance said It was clear that JD Vance did not even know this guy was going to be at the table. I did see that tweet from Ghalibaf actually just a couple of minutes ago and let me say a few things first of all he said that there are a few points of disagreement before the negotiation well, that must mean that there's a lot of points of agreement because there is 15 point plan floating around there is 10 point plan floating around if he's frustrated about three issues then it actually means

1:00:29 that there's a lot of agreement. That's point number one, Point number two to respond to each of those issues and I read it very closely let me just say this i actually wonder how good he is at understanding English because there are things that he said that frankly didn't make sense in some of them in the context negotiations we've had but to address three points first of all he talked about an attack that allegedly happened on Iran and how that was a violation of the ceasefire. Ceasefires are always messy, an hour after the president announced the ceasefire, the Iranians launched a bunch of missiles then the Israelis responded then some of the Gulf Arab states responded this is the nature of a ceasefire no cease fire ever goes without a little bit of choppiness what we have been very clear about

1:01:12 is that we want to stop the bombing, we want our allies to stop the bombing and we want the Iranians do the same thing. We're seeing evidence that things are going in the right direction but it's gonna take a little time The second thing Ghalibaf said which again I found fascinating as he said we refuse to give up the right to enrichment and i thought of myself you know what my wife has the right to sky dive But she doesn't jump out of an airplane because she and I have an agreement that's not going to do that, because I don't want my wife jumping out of the airplane. We don't really concern ourselves with what they claim they have a right to do we concern ourselves with what they actually do and i think the president has been very clear on the enrichment question Our position on that hasn't changed Is he high? What is this analogy about his wife jumping out of an airplane

1:02:05 Well, that was pretty... That was piss poor. Yes! But he's trying to say that okay have the right but you're not gonna do it But it seems like... Yeah, I have the right. I personally myself have the right to enrich uranium Do i? But I'm not gonna do it Right but this you know this is... Oh no! It's weak, its weak Its very weak and so France 24 ran a profile on this golly buff who I had not heard of before uh but he's got a lot of money He has houses in you know France His family went to France when

1:02:42 When stuff broke out, this guy is connected and I'm pretty sure he's working on behalf of the global elites on the other side of the table. He is Iran's chief negotiator to end the war in the Middle East but 64-year old Mohammad Barghakhalibov has worn many hats in the Islamic Republic before becoming one of its most important figures Born in 1961, he joined the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps upon it's establishment in 1980 He was 19 years old when he saw his first combat during the Iran-Iraq War. He later developed close ties with General Qasem Soleimani and rose through the ranks of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard to become one its commanders In 1998, he was appointed commander of IRGC's Aerospace Force before becoming chief of police command one year later

1:03:34 He ran unsuccessfully for president four times, but became mayor of Tehran. A position he held for more than a decade In May 2020, Khalibaf became Iran's parliamentary speaker replacing Ali Larijani close advisor to the late Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei Both Khamenei and Larajani have since been killed in U.S.-Israeli airstrikes, making Kalibaf one of the regime's most senior figures. Hierarchically speaking, since the death of Ali Larajani in the construction of the Islamic Republic he was the one with the most power since he had been speaker of parliament since 2020. So after Larajanis' death, de facto, he became leader of Iran officially

1:04:17 Though Kalibaf has publicly been one of the US and Israel's fiercest critics, repeatedly threatening both of them and Gulf countries online. Media reports say that he is one of the Iranian officials most favored by the Trump administration According to Politico He is one of several figures eyed by Washington to become a partner in Iran's future And Israeli government sources have suggested U.S officials have been in touch with Kalibaf during the war The parliamentary speaker has denied these claims I think that's the guy Trump says he is talking to. Yeah, of course he is! Exactly and they did not brief Vance They sent him off and said yeah that dude sent a tweet through Chad GPT And he's just saying stuff. I mean Vance should be mad

1:05:05 Yeah, yeah. And you got Whitcoff and Kushner standing in the background like Cheshire Cats? Yeah they're basically his handler This is not good for him! This is not good So there's gotta be some gambit waiting in the wings You know Kushner's gonna report him back on it Well he did this He said this He said that Like... He's never done anything like this and this was a bad move You know Kushner just looks like the type of guy who Who's just gonna be basically spying on him. And who'd shiv ya! Yeah, yeah... In jail he's the guy with the shiv No Now just for the Pakistan angle now this is not the first time Pakistan has been used between America and China China used Pakistan to sneak Kissinger in when they were trying to open up China back in the day

1:05:57 And Sharif, I think the president's name is. He is one of the founding members of the Board of Peace and clearly a front for China which this has to be all about. Pakistan's Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif is hailed while arriving at a cabinet meeting on Wednesday evening hours after the country broke it two-week ceasefire between the US and Iran. It's all good man. Irani leadership I would like to thank both the Iranian and American leadership for accepting my request, and acknowledging Pakistan's seriousness and sincerity for the sake of peace. This was not an ordinary thing."

1:06:46 Sharif also stated that delegations from both sides would be meeting in Islamabad this weekend for further negotiations, highlighting Pakistan's role as a key mediator in the conflict. The country has been courting the Trump administration since his re-election joining his board of peace and nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize Donald Trump often referring to Pakistan's army chief Assim Muneer as his favorite field marshal Right, and here's the report from NDTV which strings it all together. President Trump has told the AFP that he believes that China played a role in bringing Iran to the negotiating table as diplomatic efforts intensify to secure ceasefire deals

1:07:30 Let's talk a little bit about the China factor over here. China has very close relations with Iran, they have very close relations with Pakistan talks may be held in Islamabad on Friday Do you believe it is China actually persuading Iran to come on board with these talks? And I ask this because earlier Iran had said that they will were not willing to talk With the United States of the terms which the US had suggested Oh, definitely. And you know this conflict has been getting to the point where many countries many small countries are running out of fuel there or they're getting close to running out of fuel and the larger nations had a consider You know how are they going to meet their own needs and also supply those so the smaller countries around them? that are dependent on them and They

1:08:21 As we have seen are now moving in and trying to put their thumb on the scale as we would say and try to move this in a concerted direction because they've got their own concerns. You know, China has been trying to keep its economy afloat and going strong And it's been facing some financial headwinds and now with this situation coming in that was going to increase to You know, we've been what five weeks in this conflict and not seen any positive movement towards the two sides reconciling or even opening talks. And so I think it was finally time that the Chinese said yeah we need to push this towards negotiations. Exactly! And Trump's got his meeting in Beijing in what three weeks? Yeah it's coming up soon

1:09:19 So, and he probably has to do something today to make the markets go crazy one way or the other tomorrow morning. So maybe he pulls a victory out of the hat at the last minute and JD couldn't do it but I did it? Or, JD... That would be something I'd expect. That would that would be the algorithm and that would mean he's as you say he's got to wrap this up pretty quick but it's really its no as you would say no sweat off our balls so he just wants to screw China have them pay retail and and I still think... Well its not even screwing China have them pay retail yeah you know like everybody else

1:10:09 And here's the joint venture clip. The Strait of Hormuz remains the most obvious choke point in any ceasefire or peace deal, for now it remains firmly in Iran's hands. Shipping traffic is heavily limited. Vessels must coordinate with Iranian authorities as they sail through two narrow lanes to avoid mines. This Strait of Hormuz is open Of course there are technical restrictions because of the war zone and because of many arrangements that Iran did during the war. It's a far cry from President Donald Trumps demand that the strait fully reopen or the claims from The White House, that traffic will soon be flowing freely They have said they're going to start letting many more ships through we'll watch as the day progresses whether thats true or not

1:10:56 As part of its ceasefire proposal, Iran has demanded permanent control of the strait and wants to toll traffic passing through. Instead of rejecting that outright Trump has suggested operating a joint venture What about us charging tows? Is that something you're considering I'd rather do that than let them have them run Why shouldn't we? We're the winner! WE WON OKAY?! We won okay!? Just so you know we won I did hear, did you see the note from our boots on the ground in the region? Yeah. You want to read it? Yeah! So he says that Israel continued to strike Lebanon is because Hezbollah was just hours away from a complete and total coup and would have been running the country And that's why Bibi so mad that Trump made him stop

1:11:54 I that, i think is probably verifiable. Well, I think it's doable. I think it will doable. I think it is possible because Hezbollah has always been within an inch of running the country anyway yeah they're seen as good guys there their charitable organization Good guys! Yeah which brings me to an Ask Adam Oh since you brought up the idea that we have told him what to do I'm going to ask you the question after you play the clip. You've probably sat across the table from Prime Minister Netanyahu more than almost anyone else out there, and he and Israel are of course big factors here. There's been recent reporting—you probably saw in The New York Times that Netanyahu was taken into this situation where basically pitched Trump on attacking Iran

1:12:47 I mean, were you ever a part of any conversations like that? I know he's made that pitches to past administrations. Were you ever a part of that and were you surprised that it was able to convince Trump to do this? Well, I was part of any number of conversations with Prime Minister Netanyahu. But him pitching the US to strike Iran? Yes he wanted us to strike. He came to President Obama and made a presentation that asked to strike. President Obama refused. President Biden refused. President Bush refused The only president who has agreed to this obviously is President Trump

1:13:25 So if the Israeli Jews are running us, telling us what to do and controlling the country. How come How come Obama wouldn't pay attention and neither would Bush and neither would anybody else? Oh, well that's... Does that make sense what's the logic here. Oh! That's because of the Epstein pedophile videotape that BB Netanyahu has shown of Trump Okay That's always the answer Well it is interesting you bring that up because we'll move into the MAGA revolt

1:14:11 And your girl, Megyn Kelly was on Piers Morgan. She's gone so off the rails she is just a little startup. First of all I'm joined by Megyn Kelly host of The Megyn Kelly Show. Megyn what has been the point of it all? You got to say that deal sounds very much like surrender on our part, which I'm in favor of. Great! This needed to end ugly or any other way it needed to end. It was folly to begin with. It was followed throughout. It remains folly. Folly, folly, folly... So where Psaki who is in your clip she got that from a New York Times article the New York Times wrote this big expose about how

1:14:52 uh... need to be netanyahu was telling trump what to do and this is what megan kelly has bought into and so what led trump wet at seventy nine years old to sit in there in that situation room when bb netanyahu who's seated as a equal yeah trumpeting the senate ahead of the table trumpet with their pictures have you seen pictures of this was this all time not see nothing this is all i think it's also new york times are now yahoo was ceded isn't equal yeah trumpeted instead of the head of the table Trump sat at the side of the table and BB was across from him as an equal in the American Situation Room. What led him to sit there and buy what that guy was selling hook, line, and sinker when every other president was able to see through that liar?

1:15:39 What was it? Because he was told that- There's your answer by the way, John. Every other American president was able to see through the liar, the Bibi Netanyahu liar and Trump is dumb. He's 79 as she started off with. Every other president was able to see through that liar What was it? Because he was told the next day by our own top advisors, from the chairman of the Joint Chiefs to the Secretary of State to the Vice President that these are lies and that these objectives are not going to be attainable. Don't believe him we might be able to wipe out the Ayatollah not regime change Ayatollah and we might be able to decimate some portion of their missiles in their military. This is amazing Megan Kelly is literally citing The New York Times for

1:16:26 I don't know, first time in her career? Like oh now the New York Times is right and you've always been yelling about them being wrong. So this morning the... Israeli ambassador was on Face the Nation. Here's what he said about it, there was this highly detailed New York Times report this past week I know you read it extraordinary journalism that extraordinary journalism John extraordinary held this February 11th meeting where your prime minister pitched President Trump on bombing Iran It said the Israeli plan was to kill the Ayatollah done cripple Iran's ability to threaten its neighbors spur a popular uprising in Iran and then conduct regime change

1:17:05 leaving in place a secular leader. Obviously all those goals were not achieved, can you declare an end to the war without achieving that checklist? First of all, all of those goals have not been achieved yet. This is a process this isn't instant soup number one number two I was in the room at that meeting. The journalists who wrote that article were not and apparently they received the information second third hand there's an awful lot in that article which simply isn't true which is a narrative that's being created interesting narrative but

1:17:42 So, I'd be very careful about quoting from that particular article. Well specifically what did they get wrong? Because they say your intelligence services the Mossad argued the Iranian regime would be so weak it could not choke off the Strait of Hormuz That was wrong Iran would have- No we didn't argue that We argued the potential that we've got to work towards that. Nothing was presented as a fact, if we do this will be the outcome it's not science politics is not science military operations are not science We presented the case but this is what we think should be done The president makes a decision This whole thing about Prime Minister coming in and dragging the President into this It's all for publicity purposes

1:18:28 There you go. I believe that to be true Yes, and of course we are because you and I have been blackmailed by Mossad And we have to say that! We think it's absolutely true This was a hit piece from the New York Times Where is our money? A hit piece from the New York Times And they weren't even in the room Megyn Kelly just goes nuts and runs with it Is now underwater, he wasn't before With men Now all of sudden she's reading polling Because that's an accurate too. Well, listen to what she has! Forget the gender divide that happened in 2024. Women went overwhelmingly for Kamala Harris and men went for Trump now he is underwater with men including with young men and young people The Young Person Coalition that Charlie Kirk delivered to the president is gone Gone! They've abandoned Donald Trump They're gone! Working class peers

1:19:20 The latest poll that just came out showed he's two points underwater with the working class. That's Ben Trump space from the beginning, they were the unshakable foundation that got him elected over and over- Why is she so hysterical? I don't know! This is this was the same thing with Melania She's not doing any more research She's not even using her legal skills to see what a testimony was done by these victims Epstein victims She's just, she's just someone called the complain grifting. Which is probably a reasonable term they're all doing it now that's you know its complaint grifting its audience capture its fear of people running away from your podcast if you take a different stance if you have a different opinion

1:20:09 I think she's completely locked in and captured. That's been Trump's base from the beginning! And like anybody cares, Trump is not running for president No he's done He's going to do what he thinks is right For the unshakeable foundation that got him elected over and over, and they're gone. They're very angry. They care about what's happening in Iowa not Iran. They don't want days and days and more weeks of debates over the Strait of Hormuz. Well maybe you should stop? No one cares! They care about their own lives. They care about the fact that they can pay for healthcare. They can't buy a home young people cannot get at home even though two people are working non-stop round-the-clock with no vacations in this country What?!

1:20:52 Non-stop, around the clock. No vacations. Okay? President Trump promised he would do something about that Now we see the leaked soundbite saying, eh Can't really worry about anything at the federal government level other than military Everything else has to be done in the state Then they pulled that down off of the internet because they didn't mean to share it He said it on an Easter breakfast that was supposed to be private Well its gonna be a campaign ad for every democrat these midterms So he's lost working class, he's lost men. He's lost young people. He lost Hispanics by some 50 points every single gain with Hispanics is now gone it's eradicated blacks. He had made some inroads with black voters done you name it they're all gone well he's gonna bring back the hispanics with the farm workers that H2A but when Megyn Kelly says they took it down off the internet It's gone because he supposedly said it in private at some Easter dinner

1:21:46 He doesn't care about anything. Well, I don't know it took me like all three seconds to find it and I actually said to them I said to Russell don't send any money for daycare because the United States can't take care of daycare That has to be up to a state. We can't take care of daycare, we're big country. We have 50 states, we have all these other people who are fighting wars with-we can't take care of daycare. You gotta let the state take care of daycare and they should pay for it too. They should pay, they'll have to raise their taxes But they should pay for it and we could lower our taxes a little bit to them. To make up, but it's not possible for us to take care of daycare, Medicaid, Medicare all these individual things they can do it on the state basis you can't do it on a federal. We have to take care of one thing military protection we have to guard the country but all these little things all these little scams that are taking place or you have to let states take care of them Russell and

1:22:46 Is that the same thing Megyn Kelly said? No. She makes it sound like he only wants to fund the military, this was specific about the scams that Nick Shirley is uncovering mainly California and she makes it sound like he doesn't want to do anything for the people and they took it down from the internet she's unhinged isn't that nuts Yeah, she's pretty... I don't know what happened to her. Maybe she is losing her audience or the contracts and... Yes! That is exactly it if she doesn't do this then people will say she's horrible She's bought and paid for by Israel

1:23:29 That's what they're all doing. Here's Tucker. Tucker has the best fatalistic view of everything So why is all this relevant now? Because What's happening in Iran is the end of American Empire as we understand it It's the end! And that's sad, boohoo It's the end of the American empire! The empire's dying But it's not the end of the United States. It's not the end of our influence on other nations, hopefully positive influence. It's at the end of our economy is the beginning of a very rough time in our economy, of course but is hardly the end of it what we've been doing for likely your lifetime if you're under 80 is well it's not working anymore has actually helped the United States long term your grandkids at this point don't have the promise with better life than you had

1:24:24 So it's not actually a successful experiment. And now, it's ending because we've reached the limits of our demonstrated power. We can't open the Straits of Hormuz. The President United States said that last night someone else do it so we're done That's okay It was always gonna end Go to Qatar! It's so much better there I can't help but laugh Yeah, that is well you know the guy I have one clip in kind of in this regard and it seems like and I believe this to be The only guy who might have a clue and his kind of playing the game. Uh-huh Which is Alex Jones? Of course And he knows that this is maybe I we're dealing with a WWE You know wrestling bullcrap where your

1:25:16 Calling the other guy a pencil neck geek and you're gonna take him down. You gotta take him out And you're gonna do this, you're gonna do that So this is Alex Jones's response to it because Trump made a tweet calling out all these- It was great He's like they're low IQ morons They are low IQ idiots their families embarrassed The families are embarrassed for them. That was great, all right here we go Alex Jones- I'm just going to score church Trump to get him back on track. All you have to do is go after him viciously You've already shit all over me and if you try to rub it in Just at that point i don't care anymore so If you think I've been coming after you...if you think that I'm trying to get clicks by attacking you So the Democrats who don't buy anything from me and don't like me want to put me in jail? If you think I've been on your ass

1:26:02 Say one more thing, one more thing out of your mouth and Laura Loomer sending this. One more thing that's great when I'm gone through hell back in your ass because you were the lesser two evils then i'm going to show you how the cow eats cabbage do one more thing you should what did he say how a cow eats the cabbage? Is that what he said yes this is good back in your ass because you were the lesser two evils Then I'm gonna show you how the cow ate the cabbage. How did the... How the cow ate the cabbage? How the cow ate your cabbage, specifically. That's-I have not heard that. That might be a Texas thing that i haven't heard You're asking for lesser two evils

1:26:41 Then I'm gonna show you how to cowlick the cabbage. Do one more thing, you should be kissing my ass! But instead, you shit all over me and rub it in. I'm not looking for a fight but if you want one, you came at the right place." Yeah...I think your'e right Alex gets it So what is he going to do? If Trump shits on him one more time? I don't know It'll be funny Yeah, it's excellent. Well that at least is... Alex at least understands the show business angle of it and yeah I think that's pretty good now the only have one more I'm sorry to say again It's Megyn Kelly because she's just getting all of her buddies in here's another complaint grifter Glenn Greenwald

1:27:31 Yeah, I have a surprise he was brought into this. He's like this well he is the self-loathing Jew! He is on with Tucker the whole time...He's all in that Netanyahu...I mean maybe co wrote The New York Times article. Bibi Netanyahu forced Trump..He was his equal at the table There are no pictures Okay, I'm sure it's true Here she is It's nothing of Glenn but it's all Megan This is like post mortem in hospital That what feels to me Glenn you know where somebody dies and then they have the morbidity and whatever meeting, and they go through how did the patient die? Like what happened? What went wrong with the systems?"

1:28:12 And it's us looking at this president who I believed, totally believed would not start another Middle East war and saying what happened? And it's like some errant maniac was let into the OR. His name is Benjamin Netanyahu and our surgeon the best in the world treated him as the authority figure instead of remembering It was he who was the authority figure and the one who we placed in there and in charge for a reason He came in and said Instead of taking the cancer out, let's put one in. Let's see how that works. Infest this body with the most pernicious cancer known to man. Let's start with pancreatic. Stick it in there and see if we can get it to spread." And others around the doctor said no don't do that! That certain death for the patient but he was so dazzling with the head

1:28:58 cancer research beaming in via satellite telling our surgeon, don't worry we figured out a way around it. You'll be known as the person who cured cancer not who caused it and then we did it We stuck the needle in the man's pancreas and the cancer spread like wildfire through the patients body And that is how he died That's how this feels A bunch of experts looking at the guy we trusted saying Who made him do this? And the answer is Benjamin Netanyahu and the man in the mirror for President Trump. His own hubris that led him to believe he'd get a different result. Did someone write this for her? I don't know, it's the craziest thing i've ever heard The whole cancer metaphor and Bibi Netanyahu said yeah stick the cancer in It's unhinged Now the only thing I will agree with Megyn Kelly on

1:29:59 Tucker and the pool boy and by the way about yeah, why did you get to climb? I could have gotten a clip pool boy says he got a call from Trump. No, I didn't hear that Oh Okay, pool boy comes on says I got a call from Trump He was thanking me profusely for not joining forces with these other lunatics And for being keep staying on his side Really? Yeah, and he joked with him. He said well don't worry Mr President I'll stick with you even if you kill somebody on Fifth Avenue Callback joke And he said Trump laughed Huh yeah Well the only thing i wanted to say about pool boy is that someone sent me that pool water What?! Yeah remember I got a whole case of pool water and the Pakistani lady at the post office yelled at Tina

1:31:00 Oh right, right. Because they had been sent as media mail which means it was the media. Pool of water down there somewhere... Right so it was one of our producers who ordered that directly from Tim Poole and his outfit sends it as media mail Wow! They're the guys... The post office should go bust them Yes of course they should instead they bus my wife You are stealing from my bucket! Okay but anyway when it comes to all those people and Glenn Greenwald and everybody else. I will agree, and i have a supercut to prove it that Trump definitely definitely definitely promised no wars! No foreign wars! No stupid wars! No Wars! No Wars! I'll be the prince of peace... NO WARS!!! I am the candidate for peace!

1:31:51 A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for a man who wants to end wars, not start them. We do not want war with Iran we actually want peace the Iranians are clearly not very good at war perhaps they should follow President Trump's lead and give peace a chance Kamala is campaigning with warmongers like Liz Cheney how do you think that is? She picks Liz Cheney whose father Virtually destroyed the Middle East. You know, Liz Cheney she talks big oh I want war She always wants more every time I was with her in the White House We should attack this nation that nation Nations that people never even heard of we should attacks a big big tough guy he sits back and Washington all We ought to go and attack

1:32:34 Iran, Iraq. We're going to attack everybody that's why I broke up with her all she wanted to do is go to war with everybody these Warhawks they want to draft your kids to die in wars They will never fight themselves. You know, we'll stay around the country for 15 years Just bomb the hell out of everybody make everybody miserable Nobody knows why we're there you know The wars that never end these endless wars that we've been in I've gotten us out of so many We don't want to get into wars retired a fighting I'm the only president in the last 84 years That didn't start a war under Trump. We will have no more

1:33:10 wars, no more wars. No more wars! We will have prosperity and peace we will have prosperity and we will have peace remember I'm the president of peace they said he will start a war i'm not going to start what I'm going to stop wars He's going to start a war? I said no no my rhetoric is gonna keep us out of wars and that's what happened My proudest legacy will be that Peacemaker. That's what I want to be, a peacemaker We will measure our success not only by the battles we win but also by the wars that we end and perhaps most importantly the wars we never get into

1:33:48 Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate He's weak and he's ineffective I believe that he will attack Iran sometime prior to the election Because he thinks that's the only way he can get elected. Isn't it pathetic? So pretty hard pretty ironic that him that he said Obama was pathetic for starting war because he couldn't negotiate Yeah, yeah. He's painting himself into a corner here and I can see the objections Of course! So let's shift gears because we're not going to know anything until tomorrow when he truths something and the oil markets go either crazy up or crazy down And i'm kind of working on a thesis about that too About trading? Yeah, trading thesis There are a lot of things happening

1:34:50 And social media turns out to be quite important for the markets in general. Is that the arch? Oh, yeah. The arch! New proposed renderings tonight for President Trump's controversial 250-foot arch in the nation's capital complete with a winged Lady Liberty. The structure itself would clock in at 166 feet high Can you imagine this thing but isn't this old? Isn't it is this an is this a new new this report came out just yesterday Okay tall with the added statue on top bringing it to 250 feet to celebrate 250 years since America's founding

1:35:37 For comparison, the Lincoln Memorial stands at 99 feet. The Arc de Triomphe in Paris? 164 feet! I'd like it to be the biggest one of all. We're the biggest most powerful nation If approved, the arch would go here just across the Potomac River from the Lincoln Memorial on Columbia Island which is still considered part of DC and very close to Reagan National Airport, raising questions about whether it could impact flight patterns in one of the country's busiest airspaces. The arch has already faced legal setbacks with veterans and historians suing over traffic concerns at the loss of an unobstructed view between Arlington National Cemetery and the Lincoln Memorial

1:36:17 Veterans are the ones that should like it. It's called a triumphal arc." It is the president's latest attempt to leave his imprint on Washington after making significant changes, including tearing down the East Wing to make room for his $400 million ballroom project which also faces an uncertain future in the courts That's a pretty big arch. Yeah, I think it is gauche. Oh like Trumps hotels aren't gauche? They're not necessarily that gauche. When they first bought the plaza they turned into a really nice place Well but that was his wife. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that was Ivana Trump She ran and she did good job on that. It was nice

1:37:02 At least when I was in New York it was nice. No, I stayed there quite a few times right after they bought it on someone else's dime yep yeah sure what are you thinking? Jeez! I'm not gonna pay for that since we have been closely following the Canadian political scene particularly with the NDP Is that the National Democrat Party? New Democrat. Oh, so they already have a Democrat party this is the new Democrat party yeah So did you see Leah Gazan with... I've always said and we could probably go back and look in the archives

1:37:42 For a while, I would always just rattle off LGBTQQIAP plus. Yeah no yeah you know i had this clip for the last show and now everybody's beating this clip to death it's too funny! Everybody... It's too funny When the budget was released, I was shocked to find out that Prime Minister Carney is cutting seven billion dollars between Indigenous Services Canada and Crown-Indigenous Relations They provided zero dollars to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+. This is abhorrent. This is callous, this is callous because the very liberal government that has stripped organizations of life-sustaining funding has now promised... committed 13 billion dollars on military spending who is paying for it?

1:38:40 Indigenous women across this country, indigenous women girls to us LGBTQQIA plus are not safe. In fact rates of violence are increasing and what is the Prime Minister doing? He is turning a blind eye on this violence you know the prime minister talks a lot about projects First of all, I love the acronym MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+. Yeah. Where the 2S is two spirit and the two spirit was created to get away from all this so somehow they got dragged right back in in the middle of the MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+, but the thing that I wonder is how will money stop these people from being killed?

1:39:30 Yeah. That's what not explained, like will seven billion dollars you everyone get to bodyguard or Canada? Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada, Canada... I have a WTF Canada clip Here we go. Deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWGT. Oh, that's never mind. That's the same clip! Ah you're slipping baby and you know open heart surgery will do that to ya? No it's just I've had a move few clips over because I have these these kind of little ditty clips that are kind of cute at the end including this play one all right this is uh these are off off the wall This is a clip which reminded me of something I wanted to mention

1:40:13 And I guess in Cincinnati, somebody's trying to get the call letters WKRP. Oh really? Yeah and this is a little... The end of a discussion about that and i found it worth having to comment on Nearly 50 years ago A TV sitcom debuted That made a fictional radio station famous I'm living on the air In Cincinnati Cincinnati WKRP. WKRP in Cincinnati was about a dysfunctional rock station with a burnt out DJ, a clueless newsman and a bumbling general manager There has never actually been a radio station in Cincinnati called WKRP

1:40:57 But it looks like that might be changing. Those call letters were recently put up for auction, they were most recently owned by a media non-profit in Raleigh North Carolina In one of the sitcom's most famous episodes The station's general manager came up with a Thanksgiving promotion They dropped turkeys from a helicopter Yeah live turkeys though and it did not end well As God is my witness I thought turkeys could fly The fact is turkeys can fly. I knew you were going to say, i knew you're gonna take issue with that! Yeah they fly all the time they don't fly a lot but when they can fly in fact every so...I still remember driving down the freeway with a couple of turkeys flying over highway 80 about 14 feet above the ground and it's like just barely miss hitting them it's like flying bowling balls

1:41:52 And they fly around if they've flown down from the biggest somehow get into trees and they fly down What a way to take the story So if I recall this episode The problem was that they weren't dropping live turkeys. They were dropping frozen turkeys People were getting killed on the ground. I don't remember how yes, so you want a little showbiz story here? Yes, so I was invited and auditioned for the reboot of WKRP. When I was at MTV still, and I was living in New Jersey... And I decided to go to Los Angeles, and I was supposed to be Dr. Johnny Fever

1:42:33 The you know kind of the cool nighttime DJ and they wanted it They want like a Howard Stern type vibe I guess because I had the long hair like yeah, he'd be pretty of course typecasting as usual Of course and I got all the way through. I did all the auditions callbacks. I stayed there for a week Had a coach Oh good my god. I can't believe that all that had a coach Yeah You know, I came up with little things that I would do like twirling a pencil between my fingers. Kind of like a nervous thing that this DJ would do. A gimmick? A gimmick yeah. And they're like okay we'd really like to offer this to you and then my wife at the time said no were not moving to Los Angeles and I said well but i can fly in and they said nah never mind will get somebody else

1:43:17 and uh oh you could have been a star no i think it flopped after the pilot it was about it was a bad idea yeah you should have been a star hmm you are a star thank you like pod father all right well the pod father's got something for you here I don't know if anyone caught this but I was at the meetup which we'll be talking about in a moment. And actually one of our producers gave me a border patrol hat, which is kind of cool with border patrol. Yeah it's nice little cap to have I'm gonna wear it next time they enter the country but that may not be at my favorite airport. You know the issue here... This is our new Department of Homeland Security Secretary Mullins you have states and cities that are sanctuary states and cities and that's part of the issue what's part of the problem we saw it in Minnesota

1:44:07 How do you get around that? Well, I believe sanctuary cities is not lawful. I don't think they're able to do that and so we're going take a hard look at this one area we may take a hard look at is some of these cities have international airports If they're a sanctuary city, should they really be processing customs into their city? Seriously. If they're a sanctuary city and receiving international flights... And we're asking them to partner with us at the airport, but once they walk out of the airport they're not going to enforce immigration policy. Maybe when needed have a really hard look at that because we need to focus on cities that want to work with us so you're saying that big cities that are sanctuary cities that have a big airport They might lose their customs I'm saying we're gonna start prioritizing things at some point right now remember The Democrats are wanting defund custom border patrol well who processes those individuals and they walk off the plane

1:45:07 So I'm gonna have to be forced to make hard decisions. I love that just hey no more Border Patrol in LA and New York What could possibly go wrong? Well, that's a funny idea It is great idea! I mean it can't be done I mean, why we just can't process people? All international flights have to go through Minneapolis Dallas. Get Dallas and drive! Exactly We had a lot of people flying to Dallas for the meetup and then drove down they came from Boise from Ohio We had guy from Tennessee Wow he should've come to our meetup would've been closer Yeah sure Crazy Um...I promised this on the last show

1:45:52 I had two clips that was gonna play to lead into that. Oh, i'm sorry! But it's not about aliens is about the nine dead Well that sounds uplifting You know, but this is something we have to cover. So why don't we play the nine dead and then you take it away? All right at the time his death barely met headlines But now nearly three years later there is renewed interest in what happened to Michael David Hicks Why?

1:46:34 Hicks, a NASA scientist who spent decades studying asteroids and deep space died in 2023 at the age of 59. No public cause of death has ever been released. Now Hicks worked on major missions including NASA's DART project which tested whether humans could deflect asteroids earlier deep space missions studying comets his death is now being discussed alongside other cases involving researchers connected to NASA missile systems nuclear technology who have either died or disappeared Among them, a NASA-related researcher honored for breakthrough work who also died with little public attention. A NASA director who disappeared and has not been found. A fusion scientist working on next generation energy killed in what investigators have described as a targeted attack. A retired Air Force general deep knowledge of advanced technology who reportedly walked away from his home and vanished. The McCaslin case we've talked about that. How about an astrophysicist shot and killed outside his home? A family member of that astrophysicists spoke

1:47:30 with one of our producers earlier today. They told us exclusively they believe his death was an isolated incident and is not connected to the other cases now importantly, and to be clear there is no confirmed evidence publicly linking any of the deaths or disappearances and officials have not said that they're connected but Former intelligence and law enforcement officials note that scientists working in sensitive fields have long been targets for foreign intelligence operation. Members of Congress are calling for closer scrutiny, saying the number and nature of these cases warrant attention. It's all strange." Yeah, that's clear. But are these separate and unrelated tragedies? Or could there be overlapping risks that are not yet fully understood?" Oh what show was this from?!

1:48:13 This is from one of the local TV stations. Oh, over-the-air OTA? OTA yeah and here's part two they bring a girl in It's time to bring in Lauren Conlin, Los Angeles Magazine contributor who has been following this. Great to see you! Anything that you're seeing that would suggest there is a pattern or any of these are connected? Absolutely I mean we are seeing a pattern and the most striking thing for me is Monica Riza and General McCaslin. I mean Monica Riza worked closely with General McCaslin and she disappeared under extreme to

1:49:05 They're holding debris from extraterrestrial creatures from Roswell. And I believe that, I believe those two knew a lot and Monica Risa her disappearance the fact that she was hiking with a friend or two it's unclear some of the information but the fact she was right behind them 30 feet behind them and then she disappeared just out out

1:49:46 I don't think that he's necessarily, he was kidnapped and tortured for classified information. I don't. I think something went off in his head. What about this? You mentioned 325 meeting that somehow part of it- Yes so I did mention to you off camera that there was a meeting, a SCIF meeting basically where they do this in an isolated- A secured facility yes. Yes a secured facility and there were Democrats Republicans because this is a very bipartisan topic they're both They're both very interested. And General McCaslin, his disappearance was discussed UAPs were discussed so I don't think this story is going away Jesse. Oh this is great good lead in perfect Perfect for this bullcrap Here we go Hold on Baby

1:50:44 UAPs, UFO's aliens everywhere but we have to look at the Hollywood angle. This has been bubbling under for a couple years I think 2023 is when we first got the whistleblower you remember this whistleblower David Grush? Former intelligence officer who testified to Congress that the US government has recovered non-human craft and biologics yeah vaguely okay So, and someone wrote an email he yelled at me said he's not a Hollywood guy. He never did in Hollywood things this is your name. He's the real deal as whistleblower Yeah, right? He's a whistleblower I'm sure he is he has an associate producer on the new Jerry Bruckheimer movie that's being done for Apple

1:51:39 Now, I'll tell you something and we can confirm this with Dana Brunetti. And i'm gonna have to ask him to dive into this anyway If you are a true whistleblower You will probably get hired as a consultant Yeah But as a producer? Associate Still an associate producer? Maybe just maybe brought in that could be consultant That's a consultant! I think the title is a giveaway And remember we have the Spielberg Age of Disclosure, I'm sorry, Disclosure Day coming June 12th with Emily Blunt Colin Firth big military.com is promoting the movie Bob Lazar's documentary just came out so there's a lot happening here in Hollywood

1:52:31 And this really kicked into high gear when the following thing happened, and I don't think Trump was aware of this. I think he is like hold on a second what's going on there some kind of op afoot and i need to immediately do something about it. Something that got a lot of attention this week Barack Obama said aliens aliens are real. Have you seen any evidence of non-human visitors to Earth? Well, he gave classified information he's not supposed to be doing that. So aliens are real? Well I don't know if they're real or not but I can tell you he gave classified information and he is not supposed to do that. He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information now i dont have an opinion on it. I never talk about it. A lot people believe

1:53:17 So it was Obama who kicked it off. Obama, who leaked out classified information- Obama is an opmeister Yep, we know he is trying and you can hear Trump going. He would he lead classified information But I may let him off the hook You know by declassifying everything president trump commenting on something that a lot of people have been discussing as of late He said that he might do some declassifying well guess what? We just got into the newsroom President Trump sending this out on social media moments ago

1:53:58 saying, based on the tremendous interest shown I will be directing the Secretary of War and other relevant departments and agencies to begin the process of identifying and releasing government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life unidentified aerial phenomena UAPs. And unidentified flying objects UFO's and any and all information connected to these highly complex but extremely interesting and important matters. God bless America, he says." The due date for this is the 14th that's Tuesday. The movie? No for the Secretary of War to release everything. So what are the chances... What are the chances that the Secretary of War has already started to release some of these videos

1:54:53 And they're very interesting, for a number of reasons. When we slow the video down, you see the Hellfire missile continue to travel on its path. That trajectory becoming clearer from this zoomed out angle not shown is a second Reaper drone that launched the missile. Congressman Eric Berluson shared the video at a House Oversight Committee on what the military calls unidentified aerial phenomena better known as UFO's. That's a hell fire missile

1:55:37 smacking into that UFO and just bounce right off. And it kept going, it kept going and looks like the debris was taken with it yeah what what the hell is that? We've never seen a Hellfire missile hit a target and bounce off. Lou Elizondo is a former senior intelligence officer with the Pentagon. The Hellfire makes a hit a kinetic strike on something solid, there's usually not much left of whatever it is it's hitting. It's very destructive. What seems to happen is that the missile is either redirected or in some case perhaps glances off the object

1:56:14 and continues on its way. A recent government report revealed the government received more than 750 new UAP sightings in the 2024 fiscal year, leaving lawmakers digging into the mystery and national security concerns posed by these objects. Does this video scare you guys? Yes or no? Yes. Wiggins, yes. I'm scared. Me too! There's a lot of information that is not in that video like what mission they were on and as they said what are we even looking at here We do know the US military was conducting air strikes against Houthi targets at the time Pentagon officials tell CBS News No comment Okay so we have these videos

1:56:58 And they just happen to be in Yemen and Houthis. What are the chances we could get something over, I don't know, the Persian Gulf or Iran? Could we get some of that in this release?" Tonight two newly released pieces of alleged US military footage are sparking a lot of fresh questions about unidentified objects in the sky So the videos were said to be obtained from military archives and released to the public by investigative journalists Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp. They say both recordings show government-filmed objects that were officially designated as UAPs, Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, and they weren't meant to be seen by the public."

1:57:36 Now both videos were recorded by MQ-9 Reaper drones and both show objects making movements that Korbel says defy basic physics. The first video dates back to August of 2012, it's recorded over the Persian Gulf using infrared sensors. It shows three objects moving in what appears to be a triangular formation and at one point one of the objects falls back and it suddenly accelerates forward again, kind of like in a slingshot motion to rejoin the other two. Weird! The second video more recent 2021 recorded during a US drone mission over southern Syria and in this footage you have a single object that's- Okay so we've seen that one

1:58:16 So, all the stuff that is coming out is crap video. It's all around the coincidental region where we have a war going on. We have Golden Dome, we have the president looking for an additional $500 billion in the next fiscal budget which would neatly fill up the Golden Dome budget that he's looking for which is space... No NASA videos only Department of War. It's all about war. We have all these entertainment products coming out now to support the whole idea that, oh we're really afraid hey we're from the government were really afraid about this is very scary but then to cap it off a brand new podcast comes out and I'm the podfather so i'm always looking at these things This is Bryce Zabel and Brent Friedman

1:59:11 These are the guys who did Dark Skies. Remember the series, Dark Skies? No On NBC it was all about UFOs etc They'll introduce themselves here in their new podcast I'm Bryce Abel Have you ever wondered if there's a secret connection between UFOs and Hollywood and even sometimes A real man in black. Yes? I'm Brent Friedman, and I have definitely wondered that for about 30 years now that question has haunted me Hollywood loves it. They've been making... What's that? It haunted him. It's haunted him, well wait until you hear the story it's haunting! It's just haunting! Movies about E.T forever and we'll be taking a look at all those movies on sound light and frequency going back to the very beginning but also going into the future and even talking about some films in TV series that aren't even on yet

2:00:00 I know you're probably wondering, why are these two guys qualified to tell this story? Well we're both Hollywood insiders with lots of credits. I'm a writer-producer who's worked in film TV and games. I'm a world builder. I've worked on some really big franchises from Star Wars to Star Trek from Halo to Call Of Duty. Bryce I started out in TV news, came to Los Angeles as the first CNN correspondent. I eventually started writing screenplays ended up creating five primetime TV series wrote some movies won a Writers Guild Award got to hang out with some fabulous people like Stan Lee and Steven Spielberg and a lot of others And the strangest thing was I became CEO of The Television Academy during 9-11 The one thing else is where we faked a lot of video through it all

2:00:43 I always kept thinking about UFOs and the phenomena. Well, and Bryce, I think we can both agree that our most important credit is Dark Skies, the alien invasion series that we co-created for NBC. What a time! It was supposed to be a TV series about an alien invasion which it was and it was very good at that but so many things happened during that time that were outside of the series itself that when I look back on it, I think it changed how we even looked reality Yes, are you excited? My god what a long intro. Well these guys are long-winded I mean it'd be...I can stop now because i have three clips and they're all about long but well I don't want you to stop You got nothing better to do so you might as well stick with it But uh okay What say it They're boring

2:01:36 Well, they have two guys. Oh they have better stories So they so they start off and they're talking about when they they just done the pilot And this is where things started to go strangely weird on like who's yeah? What are you talking about? They and who are you by the way? And This gentleman said his name was JC or call me JC I don't know if that was his name he said call me JC and He had he was saying that he had been sent by people who had seen our pilot now remember it hasn't aired yet It's not like it's a government secret under lock and key, but very few people had seen that they'd seen it And they thought it was pretty good and there was a lot to like about it But there are a few things that they they thought we should know about and I guess I was in a hurry and you know I guess I was being brusque or whatever. I said okay So you've seen the pilot?

2:02:28 What happens after the crop circle which was just a very specific thing and the guy goes? Oh, well they take the guy back to majestic 12 And they do that operation and they pull that thing out of his head. And I thought well That's exactly what happened nobody in my party necessarily had seen it that night It had not aired yet now I want to throw this over to you because I didn't talk to him much longer because again people were Tagging you know tugging on my shirt and saying you got to go put this fire out here Or are you gonna? Go talk, and I just you know. I just frankly Brent I invited him to leave the party III said I don't know who you are And I have other things on my mind, and I'm not sure why you're here, and I think you should probably go now Are you still interested? Are you with me on the edge of your seat oh

2:03:21 Well, actually he is. Yeah I'm wondering why he'd do that if you have somebody that was that deep into getting advanced look at something and nobody...you can't see how he found out hear him out I wouldn't kick him out. Okay so...I wouldn't have done that well so but there's two of them and so the other guy he's hanging around the studio or the party or whatever it is and then the guy enters, he's got no badge halfway through the pilot i'm out there by myself And all of a sudden I hear footsteps and bushes rustling behind me. And I turn around, and this guy starts walking out of the shadows. Yeah! He comes up as Bryce described him 30-something. I would say he was like across between military and fraternity right? Not super handsome but

2:04:13 But really kind of agreeable. Oh brother! Television producers, you can't... Come on we're the same way What'd he look like? Well he wasn't really handsome but if I had to cast him He would have been the right guy You know not fraternity Not military And he didn't seem threatening at all Men in black he had a navy blue blazer on with the white shirt and press jeans and black shoes and... You see what we've done already. We've undercut our own story I'm going with khakis, you're going with press jeans right? Alright continue Okay so what happens is i'm standing there this guy comes out in the first thing I notice is he has no majestic badge on because I don't know who this person is and I'm counting on that badge to give me a name so that I do not look like the newb that I know I am

2:05:00 But he has no badge. So I go, hey how's it going? And he goes well you must be really proud and i'm thinking oh well yeah! This is my first show yeah yeah...I gotta tell you got a lot right and I just remember thinking that's an interesting thing to say like meaning we had a lot of good shots with a lot of good cuts the music was like What do you mean we got to love stuff right? And he goes, yeah it seems pretty clear you'd talk to someone. Now as Bryce mentioned, we're not gonna get into the story of what I'll call a briefing that I got when I was 18 years old by someone very high up in the Reagan administration who was a bull crap friend of the family but in fact... Things that didn't happen! ...I had talked to someone and I probably knew a lot more about ufology and conspiracies than

2:05:50 I should have or that i even wanted to but in that moment, I thought oh my god. I'm gonna be arrested I have told Bryce the stories of what i knew and we put some of them in dark skies. Alright, so here's your money clip And now there is a guy here who is not part of Sony or NBC saying that I spoke to someone and now im seeing him as not a fraternity guy but as some sort of FBI CI agent who is going to take me away And so for a moment I was frozen. I was just like a deer in headlights and then he said, yeah so you got a lot right but there are some things that you got wrong and thats why Im here. I represent a group that would like to work with you and Bryce to get more truth into your show and we'd like to make a deal with you guys now

2:06:43 You have to understand, this was all... I didn't know this level of Hollywood before. So this was all like incredibly surreal to me. There's a guy talking to me about making a deal he's from some branch of the military and the government and I don't even know what to say. And I said, well okay well what would that mean exactly? Well we want to get you some truth in the form of some facts maybe even some media and we'd like to have you integrate that into your show as part of what we would call kind of a slow rollout disclosure program because work from a branch of the military that believes the truth does need to come out and that is kinda one of the central conceits of your show

2:07:26 So, John this is all bullshit. It sure sounds like it! All they're doing is they just... By the way we have to note the use of the term disclosure is like code. The thing that came out last year was called disclosure something or other. Yeah. This Spielberg thing is called disclosure something or other and this guy uses the word disclosure there's other words that you can use, but disclosure, disclosure, disclosure seems to be code. So you're talking synonyms? Yeah. Book of Knowledge give me synonyms for disclosure

2:08:13 According to the Book of Knowledge, the words that share the essence of disclosure include revelation, exposure, unveiling, divulgence, confession, admission, announcement, declaration, publication, leak, release and transparency. Thus It has been written. Come on! I spent hours on that. Yeah, it's a winner So yeah there are number of ways of saying it It's code. It's code for more money for the military and I think Trump knows it he's like oh all right well let's disclose some stuff that's over Iran and over Yemen, and the Houthis, and we probably should get some more moon bases

2:09:05 And I don't know, it's just we need more money. More money is the last clip from these guys Let's just put this party crasher thing in final context Yeah let's do it I think over the years both of us have talked about this ad nauseum Now we're talking about it in public but there are a number of questions that keep coming up and the first one I think we have to ask Is this deal That that JC proposed he said it was for disclosure It was for this honorable like let's get the truth out to the people But I don't think that we can discount the idea that maybe it was all part of a disinformation campaign. I've never discounted that because My first take was that's what it was my first take Was first of all, it's a hoax

2:09:48 And this guy's not who he says he is but then as I began to say, I'm giving him more credibility than that. I then began to say But that doesn't mean he's telling me the truth. I mean that's where the journalist in me came in I mean as I'd like to say I've been lied to by experts right and I thought there's no reason in the world To accept on face value what this guy is saying so it could easily have been disinformation In fact Brent, the more we have learned over time about disinformation. The government has been disinforming as a matter of policy or military strategy going back to D-Day and before. Yeah Right? So yeah of course it could be disinformation There you go And these guys have a podcast that goes on forever That's just their first episode so I hate to say it but this is all complete military marketing

2:10:43 Sounds right. Yeah, sounds super right! So we'll have to... Well I've... So on Tuesday... So what else is new? On Tuesday we get all the videos and everything shall be known! Nothing will be known. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you The man who put the C in... Cow ate your cabbage John C DeVore Yeah, well in the morning you mr.. Adam career also in the morning all ships at sea out there Feed near some snow water boots on the ground and all the dames of nights slowly getting back up there John 1948

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2:14:32 Yeah, it's a nice piece. It was! Was there anything else? I'm getting a little tired of the cartoony nature of these though. If you look at the ones that won recently they all have the same kind of two-dimensional cartoony look. A lot of people tried to do monkey out of the sleeve But it doesn't work in art, Monkey. You'd just be sitting there like what is this? Yeah, it's too what-is-this. It's too what-is-this A couple other... Iron Sheik but they had I think was funny that the that this guy put Trump in there Let me see was there anything else

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2:17:35 And wasn't that the stuff that you had as a tip for the dog, for the dog's paws? Yeah. We had it at his tip of the day as a curative. Phoebe is looking at us like we've gone insane! It's like what are you putting on my paws here?! What are you doing?! Stop that!! But man... That is-that some-that's a dynamite product thank you very much for saying that was really Manuka gold. Is that what it's called? I think it's Manuka. Manu-kua or something like that. Manuka honey, let me just check... Let me see... Is that relief gel?

2:18:12 Face cream. Hand cream. Hand cream, yep. Anti-aging properties? I'm gonna turn into a teenager! Yeah yeah... It's going to be fantastic Alright so we had a lot of people show up at the meetup and do have a MeetUp report Now there was someone who sent us $340 or gave us $340 and wanted health and jobs karma for all But neglected to put their name on the note. I'm sad yes, so i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you a karma and thank You very much. You've got Karma we got a five dollar gold coin Yeah one of those teeny ones that is easy to lose oh look yell From some super duper cowboy this the first meetup I bent who I didn't get a silver coin yeah And I and of course I don't have this guy's name either

2:19:04 He was a very cool cowboy dude smoking cigars outside. We had Rob Carty, the constitutional lawyer $200 and 33 cents And he says it's on behalf of his wife Maggie so that'll be for her damehood Lauren McDonald Childs $100 Steve Sir Cashman $50 Cynthia Cabrera $500 Baron Gordon Walton $222 And Dame Karen Bauer, she came in from Boise Idaho with $300. And let me see she had a note here What better time than my attendance at the Fredericksburg meetup on my birthday to attain Dame status? Ah! Okay so we're gonna have to... We're gonna have to dame her Hold on one second This is why I should've coordinated with Jay But I don't-I don't have a

2:20:04 I don't see... what is she? Oh Dame. She's gonna be Dame KB, okay got it This should get me over the line and a bit extra Oh, she says I'm not even including the latest donation last year of two dangly balls and double dicks that thought you wouldn't...that you thought would never catch on. Okay Adam it didn't shit but come on ladies Christy and Jenny and i are doing our best please declare me Dame KB at the Boise North End in Greater Hyde Park my pal Jennie is already a dame of all of Idaho so I guess I'm still her subject or serf And for the roundtable she wants some really good wine and chocolate. So we'll get some really good wine and chocolate there for you, and thank everybody who came to the meetup it was really good The MeetUp report is pretty fun Also at the meet up he did send in a note with his donation even though he came to the meet-up Jan Willekens Jan spoke with him for awhile He's a 5G guy, he works for Ericsson

2:21:02 He's a cyber guy, so he fights China. Yeah he's on the list here Yes! He is number one. Number one on top. He's number ONE! So he came in with $1052.62 and says Dear John Adam this is a red knight donation to ease the pain from all those bills John will get for surviving bad food at the hospital I hope your recovery is quick and you'll enlighten us with your insights and anecdotes for years to come. It was great to meet Adam, The Keeper, Pastor Jimmy fellow producers at the Fredericksburg Meetup And enjoy the real Texas which is a feat when living in Dimension B-land Which is Sweden where I live! I've been listening since the daily source code days and have listened to Adam doing Countdown and Korean Fun Inkle during my teens in Holland So major de-douching is in order You've been de-douched

2:21:52 You both kept me grounded and sane for all these years, which unfortunately estranged me more and more from the people around me who still believe that the M5M wants us to believe. As a knight I'd like to be known as Sir John of the Northern Snow-Capped Forests... ...and enjoy all at the round table a Marge Soos? Marge Soos beer?! I have no idea what that is. Marzous beer and a steak with steppegras, that's thin french fries local to the Belgian proverbs of Limburg I'd like to request some golden oldie jingles the European anthem. I look for the European anthem? I thought i had it, so I don't have that but he did ask for Obama's A-team. I've got that for you thank you! Four more years Sir John of the Northern Snow Capped Forest and he will be a knight in The Order Of The Red Heart P.S., the donation amount includes $52.62 in fees There is indeed for rescue mission

2:22:52 When the world is threatened, when the world needs help it calls on America. And that's the story. You've got karma. Before I read Sir Codes a lot I want to Mimi insisted that I thank she was at the meetup thank the Duke of San Francisco for his Kind and generous tip. Sir codes a lot in Pahrump, Nevada $1,030.26 best health to John from sir codes a lot no jingles no karma now you're talking Dame Sand Cat Pahrump, Nevada

2:23:44 1,030 and 26 cents. Wow this is definitely knight and dame of the red heart today She says hi gents with this donation I'm now a baroness level and wish John a speedy recovery i'd like r2-D2 karma And two to the head All right carry on gents uh Baroness Sandcats You've got Karma Then we go move on to Business Intelligence Group, LLC in Beverly New Jersey 333. There's no note here and so they get a double up karma. You've got Karma

2:24:27 Rishi Nacara comes in from Mountain View, California with a handwritten note. 333 cheers to you John and cheers too many more birthdays to come we're thrilled to hear your recovery is going well and hope for continued healing it's great hearing your voice back on NOA Agenda Your darling wife did a magnificent job in your absence but there's only one divorce act that makes the NOA agenda show the gem it is thank you for the last year It'll last near two decades of media deconstruction. Cheers to four more years, looking forward to buying you a glass at the next meetup! Also thanks for the great Costco wine tips. Kindest regards." Oh this is from Dr Don and Dame Andrea so... Audra. Audra I'm sorry i skipped over it said Rishi Nekara but its Audra it's them. So Dr Don, Dame Audra and we have well might as well do Rishi Nekara who was right after that who did not have a note

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2:26:18 Toot-roola, toot-roola. The Lollapalooza in Oudenbosch. Yes. 233 that's Holland. Yes. 233 33. Exactly what it says. And uh ITM this donation is an honor of my colleague sir Remco Knight of the Tevisa and Ribera Debra I hit him in the mouth four years ago and he has been a loyal listener ever since. This Wednesday is celebrating his 50th trip around the sun, he's on the birthday list! He fled the country for a few weeks so that he would not be reminded of The Big Five-O Well tough luck Remco now the whole Noah Geno Nation knows happy birthday please put him on the birthday list for April 15 also please call out our Polish colleague Robert

2:27:06 Jerschinski as a douchebag. Good work! Kat aka Dame Tootla of the Lowland Potheads in Oudenbosch, The Netherlands Jingles. Tootola. Tootola tootoa tootola tootola tootola. Jingles you're gonna need a Bitcoin. Tootola is kind of a slur Yeah. Tuthola, which means you're... In fact you could say that whore over there is you know that's kind of the way they say it in America the tuthola I think that's a pretty good translation They're saying all hell is gonna break loose and your going to need a bitcoin

2:27:48 Keeper Felicity comes in as an associate executive producer with the Rove Ducks 22222 and says, Sir, Weegee the famous of both salt-and-pepper mix has his birthday on April 9th and would fill him with joy to hear you two sending greetings his way. Could you put it on the birthday list? It has been written and apply the donation credit to him for his progress at the round table. Some goat screams and karma will be awesome, many many thanks! And please tell the listeners to go to useboth.com that's useboth.com for spicy relief from the news of the day You guys rock says his keeper Felicity. You've got... Karma

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2:30:08 Thanks. Sir Zilbat, yes he tossed in one of those Zimbabwe notes and then a replica of something that's just ridiculous. One of those deals yeah sir Zolbat $100 and he says glad you had the foresight to be at the doctor's office have a heart attack now he wasn't he was actually in the hospital at that time Ken from El Sabrante California 100 Angela Garcia San Francisco California 100 with these meetup these are from the meeting Angela also dropped off the normal. She does miniatures Miniatures yeah, little bitty things she'll make a little bitty thing is like you had this yet to see the I'll take some photos and put in a newsletter

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2:33:59 It's your birthday, birthday! Oh no I can't... Very short list but we got him anyway. Keeper Felicity wishes Sir Weegee a very happy birthday He'll be celebrating this coming week on April 9th And Dame Tutola Happy Birthday to Sir Remco Knight of Tibissa and Ribera de Bre He'll be turning 50 on April 15th and we say happy birthday from everyone here at the best podcast in the universe! That's right, once you become a dame or knight of the No Agenda Roundtable you just move right on up into the peerage ladder and Dame Sand Cat today moves up to become Baroness Sand Cat. And we congratulate her with her additional peerage listing here at The No Agenda Show!

2:34:54 The order of the heart Pure of purpose, right from the start In the morning brave and smart The order of the heart That's right, we have brand new knights and a dame of the Order of the Heart. And those go to Sir John of the Northern Snowcap Forest, Sir Codesalot and Baroness Sandcat that means you will get an additional beautiful lapel pin celebrating John's life with a red heart! Welcome to The Order Of The Heart! Behold the Order of the Heart Pure of purpose

2:35:34 Right from the start in the morning Brave and smart The Order of the Heart Now let me just make sure I get the uh... So we have to, I got one extra knight to add And that was uhh.... That was Yon wasn't it? I don't know. Thought you added him Let me just see Was it Yon? Wait a minute, I thought it was Oh man I think it's Jan. Wait, who wanted the... no who wanted the Mertzius beer? You're reading from your little group of well-wishers from the meetup Yeah but because we got it now I'm really confused hold on a second let me just see Baroness

2:36:32 I can't find it now. Do you see it on the spreadsheet? Because he sent it... Oh yeah, here! Was it on the spreadsheet?! Yeah, yeah, Young Villicus. Okay, it is Young Villicus. But he wants to be what does he want...? He's already on here. Is he on...? Uh oh, okay, I see what I did. I'm sorry pay no attention grab your sword just pay no attention to the guy. Yeah, I got a sword for you right here. Yes! The sword is there Okay, thanks to the support of Best Podcast at University amount of $1,000 or more we have one knight and one dame to bring to the roundtable. So please Young Villicans and Karen Bauer I hereby pronounce the KV as Sir John of the Northern Snow-Capped Forest And Dame KB for you We've got Hookers & Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay Also we've got Myrrh de Suce Beer and Steaks with Steppengras

2:37:23 And we've got some really good wine and chocolate because chocolate is good. Along with that, obviously ginger ale and gerbils We got some breast milk and pablum and as always the mutton in the meat Thank you very much for supporting The Best Podcasting Universe Both of you both great to see you both actually at The Meetup Go to noagendarings.com That's where you can not only take a look at the beautiful Signet ring Are you okay? You keep bumpin' stuff around No, sorry. That's okay I just want to make sure you didn't drop Beautiful signet ring which means not only will you get the ring but we also supply you with some Some wax so you can seal your important correspondence with that and And a certificate of authenticity as always and thank you so much and thank everybody for supporting us at noagenda donations com Now why don't we take a look at some of those meetups because we were talking about the meat of people probably thinking well

2:38:21 What is this meetup? Well, if you listen to these MeetUp reports you'll get the idea pretty quickly. Yeah, these meetups take place everywhere around the world that you can imagine. NoahJenOfMeetUps.com and we love it when people send reports especially when they're from afar here is Osaka Japan From the only city in the world with the airport code ITM This is Sir Bill of Osaka coming to you from the moat of Osaka Castle where?

2:38:56 where we held this year's Cherry Blossom Viewing slash Meetup. We were joined by several folks right off the boat from their respective FEMA regions, and one special guest from the People's Republic of Canada who brought gifts! This year was our most moist meet-up yet... Patrick Burns from the Hill Country of California in Placerville, in business and Japan. And had to come to a meetup in Osaka...in the morning! This is Casey neither snow nor rain or sleet shall stop the Osaka Meet-Up In the morning it's Chris from FEMA Region number 6 bouncing straight off the airplane to our first meet up here in Osaka In the morning its Kim from the Hill Country of Texas via Osaka Hey John and Adam Konichiwa

2:39:39 This is Sir Circumstance over here in Osaka. Turning down my speakers and getting closer to the mic. It's Sir Hank, there was nobody in Fukuoka so I got food poisoning instead! Hi this is Mike from The Adult Music Podcast it's gonna take more than a little rain to keep me from a no agenda outdoor meetup. Sir 3D here sorry no server it's raining and we can't hang out with our server rack out All right, Osaka. Lovely to hear people from America in Osaka is fantastic here it is one of the longer meetup reports but there were I think 33 people and they all had to say hi this is the Fredericksburg Texas Meet Up report hey this is Greg Speed sir thanks a lot on the racetrack Hi! This is Ashlyn, The First Dame Of Speed Thank you everyone for cheering me and No Agenda Race Car on for all these years

2:40:32 In the morning, this is Paul Bailey from Canyon Lake. Don't forget to download the Godcaster app! In the morning, this is Seth Griffin from Buda just hanging out with the guys here at the NOAA Genome Meetup. In the morning slaves, this is John Willikens all the way from Sweden Here we are in Fredericksburg another great meet up thanks to everybody for coming out Hey in the morning This is Holly We missed you here John We're glad you're back on the show. I heard that gardening and listening to the best podcast in the universe is a thing to do. Karen Bauer from Boise, Idaho so happy to be here in morning Michael Rankin and Fredericksburg in the morning this is Matt great times hi this is Dame Mary of the Domestead I'm so

2:41:13 I'm so happy to be here and I am really happy John made it through and is back on the show. We're here talking with Pastor Jimmy. Hey, I just want to give a great shout out to John Dvorak! So happy you are doing good. So happy that you turned the corner in all this and so proud that you're healthy again. Hang in there, brother! This is one half of the dynamic duo and I just have to thank Matt and Gail and Holly who took care of everything for us food-wise and organization wise And of course J6 or Jenny everybody here at Bar 1776 What a great meetup! I could not do it without Tina the Keeper In the morning i'm glad everybody's here this is Tina The Keeper

2:41:50 Hey, Jarrod and Jacob. You guys are a couple of douchebags! Douchebags! I'm Lindsay of the House Hunters. I came here from Atlanta It's my birthday In the morning! In the morning Barb Hi everybody in the morning Jay from Weatherford Texas in the morning it's Paige We're at 1776 Bar Fredericksburg Miss everybody else? It's an awesome party in the morning to everybody there Tracy Johnson Georgetown Texas And my amygdala is getting smaller as we speak. This is Brendan from Local 5112 saying, in the morning! This is Steve Sircashman from Austin Texas out here in Lukenbach enjoying some great time, some libations and all I am just grateful that John's healthy and Adam's here...in the morning.

2:42:36 No agenda meetup. It's great out here. There's skunk beer from Sealy, Texas in the morning Hi This is a sir last row and I just want to say that when my wife and I decided on what we could do That would be best for a date night We decided what could be better than a no-agenda meetup so in the morning and glad to be here Baron Gordon Walden of Milam County John C Dvorak getting the Lexus and drive to Texas you missed it darn good meet up in the morning Baron Hey, this is Rob your constitutional lawyer. JCD you may be entitled to compensation call now! Hey this is Robbie Carty I am Rob's son Good afternoon citizens and slaves This is my count Chris Callen from North Austin here with Sir Brian With An Eye having a great time at the

2:43:21 Fredericksburg meetup. Sean Ryan, first Meet-Up ever! Listener since last September this is just awesome thanks so much Sir Brian in the morning I was told I need no introduction but this is sir Brian with an eye here in Lucanbox Texas hey y'all this is Jenny McCombs here with the No Agenda Meet Up at the 1776 barn Fredericksburg this is now our fourth time to get to host a meet up we absolutely love having you guys come You know, the constitutional lawyer Rob he could set up a stand.

2:44:03 Everybody's like, hey man can you get me some money? And Ashlyn Speed was there with her dad Greg which was lovely to see them. You know she's hung up her gloves and she's now opened a nail salon and I have to say love her nails Frank Zappa callback thank you Man so many people were there also the triple trap baby family Jamie with his lovely wife and their three kids. They're just so beautiful, everyone's beautiful at these meetups! We have one coming up on Thursday. It's the fifth anniversary edition of Charlotte's Thirsty Third, Thursday at 7 o'clock at Edds Tavern as usual in Charlotte North Carolina and in the next few weeks April 18th Fort Wayne Indiana Franklin Tennessee the 19th Indianapolis Indiana Vancouver British Columbia the 25th Scheveningen Netherlands Albuquerque New Mexico Brighton Michigan on the 26 Leipzig Germany on the 30th moving into May Buda Texas on the 8th Leiden in The Netherlands on the eighth

2:45:06 Santa Rosa, California on the 9th. Eagle Idaho on the ninth and Chattanooga Tennessee on May 23rd go to noagentomeetups.com that is where you will find connection that gives you protection these people that you meet are definitely your first responders in any emergency Go to noagentomeetups.com Find out what all the hullabaloo is about You will love these Meetups if you can't find one near you NoagentaMeetups.com go ahead start when yourself It's easy and always guaranteed a party Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you want to be, drink it or hail a flame And you wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party Yeah baby! It's just like a party. We have John's tip of the day coming up. You hanging in there good man?

2:46:00 Oh yeah, no problemo. Your voice got better over time there was like the first 15 minutes and it got a little tough and then you kind of pulled out of it I'm experimenting with all these lozenges Yeah which one now? You have sprays, you've got drinks, you've got lozenges, you've got goop What is working the best for your... Nothing really that good And I'm sure none of it tastes good Actually, one of them does taste good but it doesn't really work. Yeah How are you feeling in general? How was the meetup were you tired I mean how long did you stay? I stayed there for over an hour Oh that's pretty good and do you have your walker or what you like No you didn't make a walk around with that thing It looked like a weenie Wandered in You actually walked in people were like I can't believe you're walking! I got a standing O Of course you did

2:46:52 Well, I thought that was funny. Well deserved well you hey all you had to do is just get through it man and live We all are very very happy. I'm very happy yeah me too You above all And if show ISOs i've got four I see you have one so shall I roll mine out first? Well let me Yeah, he wants yes. Okay here we go number one I love that and that's wonderful and that shit That's a wonderful model nice too long how about this one calm down? This one it's over And this one they had a great time

2:47:29 Okay. It's not bad, well it says Megan Kelly was thematic on todays show Yes I have this No BS no agenda Yeah! You know how many people email me about that? Man she stealing your trademark man Should we sue her? Can we sue her, can we get Rob on the case or... I don't think that's really legit. It's not legit well we're gonna use it that's all we can do will use it We'll just say you know No BS no agenda Before we get to using any of that first is time for John's tip of the day Great advice for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam

2:48:13 Okay, so this is a tip that both Both Jay and Mimi insist Because they both use them. I guess everybody's using these things but me Tell me if you can hear this. I'm gonna light it here in front of the mic Oh, well, oh that sounds like like some kind of butane lighter No This is a Suppress electric arc windproof flameless USB rechargeable lighter. It's like plasma. Oh, so it has no fuel? No you just...it got a USB port on the back and plug it into your computer charges up and its good for how many lights does this thing go for

2:49:01 A lot. A lot, it's good for a lot. It's made of plasma? Plasma? Yeah its like a little plasma electrical plasma thing that goes across the...it arcs and you stick that arc right on top of the candle and lights the candle And I'm sure its windproof waterproof Oh yeah Douchebag proof Yeah I think so Nice and what is it's very cute. What does this retail for nine bucks? Let's call it number five you did you get in on this item we should do home shopping night I know he should yes, we're gonna resort to that eventually the way things are going Yes, this is nine bucks Amazon has it as Amazon choice suppress electric lighter arc

2:49:46 Windproof, flameless USB rechargeable lighter. I can't...I think this is it we should do the first home shopping podcast! Hmmmm.... That's not a bad idea. Until then it'll just have to be John's tip of the day. Not a bad idea. And sometimes Adam. Yes, noagendafund.com and tipoftheday.net is where you can find all of those as we come to the conclusion of another episode and broadcast day of your best podcast in the universe Nick The Rat is coming up next if you want to stay tuned on the No Agenda stream or in your modern podcast app End Of Show Mixes

2:50:31 We got a couple of cool little ditties in here from Kord McPhill, Jeff Crocker MVP of course all coming in for our end-of-show mix. we always are open for end-of-show mixes about a minute and half is what we'd like them to be email them at adamandcurry.com And that's it I got nothing else! We're glad you're alive or glad you're here I'm gonna keep saying that before the next four years I love how you laugh about that. It doesn't make me feel good. Yeah, because you might just do that! Yeah, I might...I might Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country Fredericksburg Texas come visit us sometime we're a fun little community in the morning everybody

2:51:17 I'm Adam Curry. And from Refinery Row, I'm John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Thursday we hope you join us same time Same podcast channel until then remember us at noagenda donations dot com support us value for value until then adios mofos a hui hui and such This is a Gitmo Nation Podcast Guaranteed Human Oh! I am wide awake Heart to heart, watching the doctor play the Mario Kart With my ticker and my valves and a shiny little pump Every time the beat drops I give a little jump Yeah! I'm the guest of honor but i didn't get the memo Now im lying in my own internal demo

2:52:12 The nurse is talking bout her weekend at the lake I'm thinking about the chocolate icing on a cake. I wanna join the chat and give my two cents But im a silent partner in these current events Passed the forceps, yeah I heard that loud and clear Is that a squeaky shoe coming over near? It's a bizarro party And im the centerpiece Just a little glitch In the anesthetic piece Oh! Im wide awake for the heart to heart Watching the doctor play a game With my ticker and my vowels, And a shiny little pump. Every time the beat drops I give a little jump! Yeah, I'm the guest of honor but i didn't get the memo Now I'm my own internal demo Top goes the clock on the wall I'm the most conscious person in the hospital hall No nap for me just a front row seat To the funky looking beats

2:53:15 Hey kids, guess what's back? What is it? Everyone's favorite astronaut drink from the 1960s. It's... Turd! How unfair That's right your parents loved it and now comes in a new flavor Prune Prune Turd Now with puberty blocking This is gross Get it at your local Planned Parenthood Yeah vote Democrat Breaking The banner flashes red on the wall Embracing the impact with an Adderall, this just in Another crisis to crave while the dextroamphetamine starts to behave Providual keeping my eyelids uncurled as I watch this slow motion collapse of the world The banner is scrolling a digital knife. I need an Ativan just to have a life We're live on the scene where the sirens all wail

2:54:04 My modafinil focus is starting to fail The feed is a flicker of static and smoke I'm reaching for Xanax before I can show Percocet batting for the blow by blow As the Vicodin softens the glare of the show A Klonopin shield, for if it bleeds, it leads Looking for truth in a 50-inch screen Give me something for the noise Something for the heat The world is on fire and it's trending in a tweet From the peep to the panic to the chemical floor I can't remember what i'm looking for anymore Methadone drip for the tragedy stream Hydromorphone heavy, a greyscale dream This just in But it's already old The fentanyl silence is starting to hold Sonata shadows on the living room floor Breaking news pounding at the bedroom door I'm trying to stay woke Trying to stay wired but the ambient walrus says we're both getting fired We're live

2:55:06 Wait, am I the reporter? The hydromorphone just crossed the border of my brain. Breaking. Is that a bird?