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00:00 Hey, today's Redhead Day! Until proven innocent and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we demand accountability! I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah you did it man you did it now... You did it now

00:41 But... You did it! Your entire Hoar Island thesis has thrown the show into a tailspin. Did you not receive any emails at all? Yeah, I got a couple. I mean, I got uh let's see i'm just looking from my Twitter timeline today something simply isn't right about this show what the hell is happening here's another one It's truly sad. The show used to be a one-of-a kind breakdown of the news cycle and just enough crackpot to keep it interesting and open I personally believe that after journalist Jamie White was murdered, it was a cue to stop talking about certain subjects! This show sucks now! I did not get that one Oh this is public this is just on my timeline oh yeah? Oh its somebody bitching okay... I mean it's nonstop

01:35 It's all, I can't even go to Twitter anymore. People just hate me! Well they should hate you for letting me talk like this. Yes, they hate me for something... Here is my favorite. What kind of Christian are you? There's a mountain of evidence in the P. Diddy and Epstein cases showing their deep involvement in satanic cults and sex magic rituals, yet for some reason... You keep trying to sell us on the idea they were merely rich guys having orgies! It really makes me question who you really pray too

02:13 Why have you laughed at it like our government is not full of satanic creeps? Surely, you know the truth. So stuff like this and then... It's running away into podcasts! This is the coffee and a mic podcast. To separate whether I can talk to somebody and judge whether they know what's going on or even if their like controlled opposition is, does Israel control the United States or does the United States control Israel? Because if you tell me the United States controls it controls Israel one either think your ignorant or two I think you're working for them. One of the biggest podcasts in the world there's no agenda

02:57 And after what I've heard on that show over the last year, I mean- Year. I'm trying to get people to run away from that Adam Curry and John C Dvorak. Just this past Saturday a Sunday's episode they were completely excusing they're saying there were no underage girls with Epstein or their Epstein mentions it in the freaking day that I provide children I prefer Michael Tracy. Michael Tracy has been out there denying the undeniable and people are like you know... Why do they think that works? I'm baffled by that because it seems to me that conceding something would give you enhanced credibility, right? And there it is!

03:46 Conceding into audience capture. Exactly! Wouldn't it make sense that if we really were going for the gold, that we just say oh yeah this is what you believe when we clearly believe other things and we've been controversial throughout almost... It's hardly controversial. Oh, it's extremely controversial! Oh to maniacs and lunatics. No you have no idea! This guy with his oh you know I don't understand how it's even possible that anyone doesn't believe that

04:27 that Israel controls the United States because hell, you know there's a small little country in the middle of nowhere and they're telling us what to do. Won't they tell us to give them even more money? I don't see him doing- us doing that We're the biggest we have a 1 trillion dollar defense budget were the biggest market in the world and they are telling us what to do And that makes sense to you? I think that well... Of course not But that's the point. There is... No, not you I'm talking to! The you out there. There is a complete lack of critical thinking and it comes from this beautiful confluence of years of QAnon babies being shipped in Wayfair containers remember that one? Everybody was all-in on that one why could it cost $13,000 hmm into

05:20 Epstein, who everybody was convinced that he was blackmailing people. Convinced! You know throw in a little bit of Whitney Webb and by the way she's having a big fight with Glenn Greenwald if you saw that. Glenn Greenwald is like no you wrote stuff about me in 2013 there was utter bullcrap so I can't trust you anymore whatever your right this just it's like we've gone into conspiracy overdrive And when the two sanest voices is Adam and John, you gotta stop for a second. Think hmmm... I wonder why those guys are saying what they actually think? And not what everybody wants them to say

06:02 So let's clarify at least one thing. We never said that there are no underage girls involved, in fact if you look at anything having to do with prostitution whatsoever, you find that it is dominated by underage girls and there is report after report which I actually did a printout of The United Nations and other groups have done this, that the average typical underage girl involved in prostitution is a runaway. There's all kinds of issues with them and they're 15 but average 15 so that this is not what we were talking about let me read you this note from one of our listeners one of our producers Chester

06:43 Hey John, I appreciated your take on Epstein. I was at a dinner a few weeks ago with several people including a former high-end sex worker who explained her opinion on Jeffrey E and the island which was pretty much the same as yours! Nobody at the table seemed to scandalize but they weren't agreeing either...I think i said something noncommittal like uh maybe But the conversation stuck in my head, so I was receptive when I heard your rundown. In other words he heard her first and then me. Oh okay interesting So he made an audio clip of you expounding on the matter and sent it to her in an email And she responded quote

07:31 So we have a...we have our uh, she should be listening to the show. Yeah I hope so! Send a pic! I am glad someone is speaking up about the E-matter in a sane fashion. I think the Epstein spectacle is quite anti-semitic Oh hey now Turning one lone individual into a central figure in the conspiracy that involves money and finance. Forcing every person who knows him to explain how he came to be tainted by this scapegoat who just happened to be Jewish! Give me a break, it's obvious!" And then she says it's an unhealthy blend of anti-semitic paranoia

08:17 Salem witch trial methods, sex phobia plus women of a certain age hating the existence of younger women in men's lives. Just perfect! Some of those mean-spirited women claiming to be concerned about vulnerable younger ladies are older sex workers." End of quote. Yeah So no, I'm the more. I thought about what you say Yeah first of all yeah The Epstein files are filled with all kinds of crazy stuff Anybody's email if they ever get a hold of my email the stuff? I haven't nuked on my own server people send me the craziest stuff You know you look at that like oh what's going on here? Oh

09:04 Do I think Epstein was creepy? Absolutely. Oh yeah, sure he was! You could take a look at him and he's creepy. He gave people the creeps And there are lots of people like that In fact The Department of Justice and Sheriff's Office around the country continuously round up people like that gets almost no mention because you know it's not Trump or its not billionaires etc so And this, I have to agree with the president. This is a he's calls it a Democrat hoax It's a Democrat strategy and they're using it quite effectively So there is one case now that everybody's honing in on about this 13 year old

09:46 And Anderson Cooper leads the charge and then we'll talk about this and what the facts of the case are, not just what people are saying. We begin tonight keeping them honest with a name that was not spoken last night stated The Union Message Jeffrey Epstein That, and the name that we learned today has turned up in FBI records missing from the Epstein files Donald Trump. We know this because a numbered evidence log in the Glenn Maxwell case catalogues about 325 FBI witness interviews But of that number, more than 90 do not appear to be present on the Justice Department's website. And three of those witness interviews are related to a woman who told agents that Jeffrey Epstein had repeatedly abused her starting when she was approximately 13 years old She also accused Trump of sexually assaulting her

10:34 Now we should point out here that the president has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection with Jeffrey Epstein and the White House is calling the allegations quote false and sensationalist. We have nothing to do with Epstein, the Democrats do I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein you just keep going on The Epstein Files And what The Epstein is a Democrat hoax! The President as you know has been treating the files of the ultimate not guilty verdict I have nothing to hide, I've been exonerated. I've been totally exonerated on Epstein. Well, you know i'm the expert in a way because I've been totally exaggerated but I'm the one that can talk about it because I've been totally exonerated. Well keepin' them honest that might be easier to say if the public had access to everything the federal government has on Epstein Maxwell and many powerful people they moved among then citizen Trump included who again says he did nothing wrong so now you gotta add one more thing to the Epstein conspiracy that involves all the billionaires the elites and everybody

11:35 That of course is not with high-end escorts. No, no no it's all children and it's eating babies and the biggest offender of this And you almost I almost have to think She was doing it on purpose is our AG Barbie. These latest allegations first arose in July of 2019 just days after Epstein's arrest on federal charges a woman called an FBI tip line agents interviewed her two weeks later during which she told them Epstein had repeatedly abused her at home he was staying out in South Carolina The abuse started, she said when she was about 13 years old. Now according to the FBI interview record a form known as 302 when she showed agents of photo Trump and Epstein that her friend had sent her. Her attorney said that she was quote concerned about implicating additional individuals and specifically any that were well-known due to fear retaliation

12:28 The Maxwell evidence log notes three additional 302 forms dated in August and October 2019 related to the same alleged victim as well as three other sets of interview notes. Now none of those appear to be present in the files released by the DOJ Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have now said that release files which took an act of Congress to get released are not all there is, And it's been more than a year since the Attorney General said this on Fox News Here we go Tomorrow, Jesse breaking news right now you're going to see some Epstein information being released by my office. It's sitting on my desk right now to review a truckload of evidence arrived it's now in the possession of the FBI and it's a new day it's a new administration and everything is going to come out to the public

13:19 So that, of course was the dumbest thing she could have ever done. Either she's a complete idiot or she is working for the Democrats as far as I'm concerned because at least should've known she had nothing and all this stuff she put in the binders was known for a long time A final clip here about the DOJ. Reading now from the Justice Department statement on them, several individuals and news outlets have recently flagged files related to documents produced to Ghislaine Maxwell in discovery of her criminal case that they claim appeared to be missing.

14:08 As with all documents that have been flagged by the public, the department is currently reviewing files within that category of the production. Should any document be found to have been improperly tagged in the review process and is responsive to the act, The Department will of course publish it consistent with the law." So they continue to bumble along putting things out pulling them back putting them back in pulling him out and the Democrats are loving this! As the Jeffrey Epstein scandal continues to dog the Trump administration Democratic lawmakers say that the US government is withholding evidence that could implicate the president in criminal activity. These are the files that the FBI has removed from their public

14:48 dozens of FBI witness interviews appear to be missing from public records, according to US media reports. And numerous alleged victims say they cannot find their testimonies in the 3 million new documents released by the Department of Justice at the end of January. At the State of the Union on Tuesday, Democratic lawmakers wore pins demanding the release of the missing files and brought a dozen Epstein accusers as their guests. Where are the rest of the files? The truth must come out!

15:35 Why are there no investigations when there are plenty of people in these files to investigate? Since the files have been made public, there have been high profile arrests and investigations around the world into those named in the documents. But no such investigation has been opened in the United States. The White House has dismissed claims of Trump's involvement with Epstein's criminal sex ring as false and sensationalist. And the president did not mention the late sex offender in his speech. In response to the allegations, the Department of Justice denied any wrongdoing saying that any missing documents were either duplicates or part of an ongoing federal investigation. All right so let's talk about the 13 year old for a second because what we're missing here

16:18 is these so-called victims and how old they were and what they are a victim of. And let's also mention the fact that we're dealing with the use of language which Democrats are quite good or the left in general is good at, and changing a customer of a prostitute to an abu-, changing the name of a John to an abuser, and changing the name of a sex worker to a victim? Yes Let's talk about... So when they say victim, victim, victim of these. Now the question that never seems to be brought up does anyone ever ask any of the women who are or that have been

16:59 Kind of sequestered to complain about this a lot. Have you paid any money? For this process of abuse and how old were you and how old were you at the time, and we paid any money I Honestly don't want to sound callous But I almost believe that these women found out what was being charged by the system, by what I call a whorehouse and what they were getting. And they felt gypped! Well, the timing of them coming out is always interesting but i want to go to 13-year old because this is not a case that is unknown to us or even to the show often referred to as the Katie Johnson lawsuit or Jane Doe it was for a long time which filed in 2016

17:50 alleging incidents that took place in the summer of 1994 at Epstein's Manhattan pad. The victim, a 13-year old girl using the pseudonym Jane Doe slash Katie Johnson claimed she was recruited under the guise of a modeling career She alleged she was sexually abused by both Epstin and Trump on multiple occasions Most notably she claimed that during her fourth encounter Trump tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her while she pleaded for him to stop And this lawsuit included a sworn statement from a Tiffany Doe, so a pseudonym who claimed to be a party planner for Epstein and said she had personally witnessed the abuse. And the plaintiff said that Trump had threatened to have her and her family killed if she ever spoke out

18:40 Citing a 12 year old girl named Maria who had supposedly disappeared after similar instances. So, this suit was first filed in California in 2016 dismissed by a California judge refiled in 2016 in New York October 2016, there was a press conference scheduled. I remember this by then attorney Lisa Bloom. Remember the Lisa Bloom? The famous... Yes, the famous Lisa Bloom. This is when the plaintiff was going public but the press conference was canceled very last minute she stated her client was living in fear due to death threats then November 4th days before the presidential election the lawsuit was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiffs legal team

19:26 without any public explanation. So, there was no evidence the lawsuit was withdrawn but here's that here is the fun part Norm Lebeau does that name ring any bells for you? No He was a TV producer crack-smoking TV producer who did sensationalist stories about celebrities he worked for the Jerry Springer show he's the guy that started all of this He's the one that started publishing articles. He is behind a lot of these things, you know? That Kurt Cobain was killed by his wife and this kind of stuff So a lawsuit that was put in withdrawn right before the elections The whole thing is very very flimsy at best so You know okay

20:24 Show me something. Show me something that's real, not some email that says I got a torture video Well we already discussed that Have you looked at Pornhub? So yes Jeffrey Epstein was a creep In my personal opinion any older guy who wants to have sex with 16 17 18 year old Probably legal in the states they were doing it or on an island You know they got a lot of problems But if it was for money, well there's other discussions that need to be had. But the whole thing is being manipulated and turned into a strategy for the Democrat Party. Yeah it's a total... this is the Russian hoax of the second administration. The Russian hoax is over they can't talk about it anymore. There are still lingering effects of it people still believe it

21:24 and this is the new one, and this came up. This is Trump screws little kids, he's a rapist. But I think it's going even further and its really interesting And I see people all over the political spectrum falling for this. I think many of our own listeners or maybe former listeners Well obviously some of our own listeners fall for it Yes, yes...and the idea here is all billionaires Anybody who has power, is a billionaire, is successful. They're all in cahoots with Trump And they're gonna get, seriously and you need to... These people are the problem. They're the Silicon Valley guys if you're Silicon Valley and your Jewish You got two strikes against you Zuckerberg Teal all these guys If they're all in cahoots with Trump and Trump is protecting them and this was completely laid out by none other than the twerp Condoleezza Rice

22:28 Well, she's not the twerp. Susan Rice is the twerp! Oh I'm sorry... well she's a twerp too! Condoleezza Rice who wrote herself an email to be able to say later y'all know all that No no that's not Condoleezza Rice Was that Susan Rice? That's Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice is the old... She worked in the Bush administration. She teaches at Stanford. Well she's a problem What did she do? Listen to what she said on this podcast with Preet Bharara. And she's teeing it up, she's teeing it up for the Democrat Party. Has the first year approximated what you expected? Has it been less bad than you expected or worse? Well I expected it to be very bad. Susan Rice not Condoleezza Rice Isn't this Condy? This is Condoleezza Rice

23:24 No, this is Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice isn't even in the story I thought this was... It's a rice lady! This is the twerp This IS the twerp- I knew it! Oh, just had the name wrong. Is this Susan Rice then? Are you sure its not Condoleeza Rice?! Condoleeza Rice is a tall woman with a big square head Well she's sitting down in the interview Who talks like a patrician I'm pretty sure this is Condoleeza Rice Yes, I clipped it myself. Did you visually see the person? Yes! Well she was sitting down so i couldn't tell if she was tiny or not. Continue... This is Condoleezza Rice No its not Condoleezza Rice and I hate the fact that I have to contradict John this because Condoleezza Rice is not involved in any of this and it's ruining your point

24:24 I don't... well let me go look at my history. I'm 99% certain this is Condoleezza Rice talking and she may ruin, she may ruin my uh here she is this is Susan Rice you're right okay thank you for catching that thank you for saving me it's Susan Rice so my point valid again now Well, the problem is that you know you when you misstep when you're making a good argument. A good argument and then I ruin it by... And then you miss step by bringing in somebody who's got nothing to do with anything because of a mistake in last the names being similar. Yes. Didn't even think about that. Here's what we'll do here's what will cut all that out of this show. You're not cutting out! No one will ever know. Susan Rice who I had this clip in the last show she has

25:16 Well, I have four clips because it was super interesting all the things she actually said. I was like holy moly! She's part of the scheme And she is the one that wrote the email correct? To herself? Yeah, she's the one who wrote the cover your ass email at the end of her term. Yes exactly. That was Susan Rice. Susan Rice. Condoleezza Rice was out of business 10 years earlier. Condoleezza Rice is dead to me! Okay?! She's dead to me and doesn't exist. Susan Rice... Susan Rice teeing it up for the Democrat Party!! Has the first year approximated what you expected? Uh has it been less bad than you expected or worse?

25:55 Well, I expected it to be very bad. And I guess I would confess that it's probably worse than I anticipated but not because they're doing things that surprised me They told us exactly what they were going to do You know we recall Trump saying multiple times on the campaign trail if you vote for me this one time you'll never have to vote again or his pledge to use the American military against the quote, enemy within. You had Stephen Miller foreshadowing not only the use of the Insurrection Act but potentially the suspension of habeas corpus and the imposition of martial law. All of these are they tell you interestingly where they intend ahead but what surprised me is the speed and

26:47 the efficacy of their efforts to do what they set out to do and the fact that they have faced very little resistance from members of their own party, from the private sector, from civil society leaders and university heads and law firms. And all of the pillars of society media that have rolled over and played dead or hidden under rocks. Yeah, I love this so she sets it up by saying project 2025 we all knew it they've held to it entirely completely to it and they're gonna get theirs Do you think that after a year of this? No wait is like misclipped this somehow probably whether your university whether your

27:36 Sorry about that. Play a long game, not this short game that has been so detrimental So very specifically if the House changes hands in a few months what should be the top priority or two in terms of that accountability you're speaking for Democratic leadership in the house? Well first of all when the Democrats win the House, which I believe they will and possibly the Senate. They need to appropriately focus on the needs of the American people which Donald Trump and the Republicans could give a damn about whether it's health care costs, housing costs food prices electricity prices runaway tech companies that are lining their own pockets at the expense of our children our jobs

28:29 maybe even our very existential future. There's a lot of stuff that we need to do in service of the American people, but in addition to that there will be an accountability agenda. Companies already are starting to hear they better preserve their documents They better be ready for subpoenas if they've done something wrong they'll be held accountable. And if they haven't broken the law, good for them! If they've done the right things, good for them that also will be noted and remembered but you know this is not going to be an instance of forgive-and-forget The damage that these people are doing is too severe to the American people into our national interest

29:20 She's threatening everybody, but she is really confirming to the Democrat Party and the people who vote Democrat. But also to anybody who is whipped up into this Epstein thing you've gotta hate these people! You've gotta hate billionaires, you've gotta hate tech companies which is so inherently un-American I grew up like hey see that guy with a Rolls Royce? Hey you could be that guy this is America But now everybody who's successful, everybody who is doing anything with Trump anybody whose been helping him out we're gonna get you. We're going to get you and everybody will hate you

30:03 And this is... Yeah, like I said. I had this clip. This was the thing about that little ditty at the end about the corporations. I think it has to do with it which follows into some clips I have about the DC sewage problem. It's pretty smelly out here in the most beautiful city in America? Is that aimed at pulling, I believe It's aimed at the pulling of all the DEI stuff. The corporations are noticing and ESG, all those corporations noticing that even Larry Fink of BlackRock who promoted the idea of ESG in particular but it was like...

30:48 It's losing money for these companies because you're putting incompetent people into positions where there has to be some knowledge base. You can't just take anybody off the street and make them a CEO, you can't take anybody off the street and make them running some department that they have no clue about what it is or what it does or how it works as opposed to what the Democrats are trying to do, which is exactly that. Which of course undermines the entire economic system that we have a capitalism because they're anti-capitalist and a lot will say it yes they come out and many of them would just say yeah well yeah I am a communist is it's a way to go

31:31 It just hasn't never worked out so far because it hasn't been done right, that commentary which never seems to end. It never will. Someone also sent me a link today with a short essay about Americans confidence in government from 1958 to today, and in 1958 it was somewhere in the low 70s. And today its 17%. Yeah which is yeah! And the point is that when it gets this low this is when interesting things take place You know, you get the overthrow of the emperor. You get all kinds of things happening and I think MAGA came in the first time at the right moment

32:12 But I don't know if Trump has the winning edge on this now, because I just see too many people severely negative. All trust is lost in all institutions. COVID had a big... Although actually confidence went up for a little bit during COVID across the board but now it's completely... Now people are dying blood clots everywhere. People have lost all confidence and so There could be a completely different person who comes along and says, hey I can motivate all these people. It's an interesting situation for the United States Yeah, I agree So let's move from that unless you want to finish No no no That's it! No i mean... I just wanted to say... I think he made your point But the only point I want to make towards people who are mad at us is like

33:08 We're doing this because that's all we do. We tell you the truth as we see it, not because were paid Not because were Christian Zionists not because were controlled or blackmailed by Mossad Or CIA and unfortunately not because anybody is paying us to do this So get a grip I found that character on that one podcast that condemned us to be pathetic Well of course But anyway, so we did the thesis has not changed about the whorehouse and I'm still going through photos It's it this is quite quite interesting So one of the things I'm gonna do I start posting either on my Twitter account the real Dvorak or and probably put him in a newsletter Occasionally you run into some screwball photo. Oh, I ran into one the other day by starting at the second hold on a second

34:08 Somebody tell me you're recording the stream, please. Let me know that you're recording the stream. You didn't push the red button? I have a feeling I may not have pushed the red button Someone's always recording the stream So as long as your recording the stream...I'm happy. Somebody recording the stream We are going to pray someone is recording this stream Otherwise this will be very strange podcast Darren O has it. Darren you da man Alright so I knew he'd had it Alright continue we good

34:44 Darren must have a great archive. Darren is phenomenal, man without Darren we'd be bust So where was I? I was talking about something... I can't roll it back to find out what you were saying Sorry! Can't just can't It did come back to me but you interrupted Trader's thought You were talking about the character on the podcast you thought he was pathetic And about not getting paid by Mossad. Yeah, we don't get paid by Mossad I don't know why they should send us money anyway just because we do a good job of analysis So and wanted to switch gears and move too because i thought Susan Rice's commentary which was about I think was about DEI brings us to the sewage thing yeah and our national treasure

35:42 NPR did a thing on it. The utility has said it found signs of corrosion during an inspection about a decade ago. McGuire says the section that broke was slated for repair. So hopefully this is a little bit of a kick in the pants for everyone because she says the risks around the country are growing we already have a chronic sort of slow bleed but if we have a chronic explosion problem that's going to be much more impactful than what we already have. President Trump has tried to blame local Democratic leaders for the accident, however DC Water is under federal oversight The Environmental Protection Agency said it's committed to fulfilling its oversight role and helping make sure the recovery happens as quickly as possible The ultimate authority that really needs to be aggressive in addressing this

36:43 as the Environmental Protection Agency. That's Mike Jarrell, another scientist at the Chesapeake Bay Foundation He says the EPA also has to be the one leading programs to upgrade old sewer lines like the one that broke in Maryland Michael Copley NPR News Okay So, okay yeah now somehow we got to blame the EPA for this local issue. So let's listen to the Wendy Bell show The female right winger that does it Is this a podcast? No no she is a radio person I talked about her in the last show Oh oh yeah yeah She does stuff on Rumble in between Yeah And she is This from her show though This your new go-to Your new savage You've got a lady now This is your savage Oh yeah

37:28 This is not an in-between thing. This is on her show, this shows out of Philadelphia and she discusses the same situation. I have it as one 1.2, 1.3 so we start with one and it's a little different take on what's going on? Well if you need a reason to blow up DEI and put it away for good forever, it's this Potomac nightmare of raw waste that still pumping into the Potomac River after a month. It's absolutely So the Daily Caller did this great story and I want to read it to you. And that's all we're going to talk about in this segment, it's that egregious DC Water, that's the name of the big utility right? They have a CEO new guy well wouldn't during Joe Biden's tenure he waved a magic wand and he put some black guy in charge of it which is fine. You would hope the black guy came from some kind of utility background were gonna talk about that in a minute.

38:22 DC Waters CEO, that guy oversaw $520 million in DEI contract. And coincidentally the biggest sewage spill in US history like my let's chew a little bit and see what the priorities of this utility work shall we? While hundreds of millions of gallons of raw sewage accumulated in its pipes, the District of Columbia Water and Sewer Authority was focused on diversity equity and other left wing priorities setting the stage for what may be. The largest sewage spill in American history DC water CEO David Gaddis

39:06 as his name, David Gattis. He's championed equity and diversity throughout his tenure who was also named in a lawsuit against his former employer for allegedly withholding information about water contamination in Flint Michigan. Let's dig a little bit deeper into this guy before joining DC Water In 2018, Gattis served as executive vice president of Veolia North America and CEO of Veolia Water Indianapolis. It's the utilities first black CEO and the first black executive to lead a major Indianapolis utility according to his bio. Woohoo!

39:48 Well, we have this guy who is... She could've done that in 30 seconds but I guess it's a radio show. You have any idea how much I took out? I believe you Yeah because you... That's why I don't usually take from these radio hosts because they In fact there was even a problem with Jesse Waters on TV They keep putting interstitials They can't stop with the asides. Yeah, so here we go at part two. Before Gattis arrived DC Water was considered a global role model commanding one of the highest reputations in the water sector. Gattis sought to take the authority to the next level by prioritizing equity for employees customers communities and contractors how about

40:40 I don't know, I'm just spitballing. How about clean water? Is that too much to ask for just water clean water that doesn't make my hair fall out he wanted to prioritize equity and so what did he do He started giving away money. How much money? Well, in fiscal year 2024 disadvantaged and women owned enterprises received about $520 million of business diversity and inclusion grants. They didn't need to prove that they knew how to- Did you say business and diversity inclusion grants

41:17 But she said, okay. Do anything they just needed to prove that they were diverse that maybe they had some ovaries Maybe they had some melanin and it was like yes here's your money and yes here's five hundred and twenty million dollars Well the EPA had to move in in April after Trump moved in, right? And suspend some of these awards and grants. No bid awards to people who by the way were proven to not fulfill their contract obligations they wouldn't be held accountable there was no liability like you can't make it up and now what do you see this mountain of human waste

42:00 Okay, so why is the president not railing on this and getting rid of this guy and changing things right away? This is what he usually does so well. He's a black guy first-of-his kind it's just they got this Epstein thing being charred you know hadn't been used as the hoax of the month I don't know, here's the little kicker. This kind of proves her point because she brings this guy on and then they have one last clip after that where he is introduced by a woman on another show He does a lot of media and here is this part

42:38 You know when I arrived at DC water this was this is your last clip by the way. I don't know what you're but no There's another clip, you know when I ride it pretty important topic eight clips You know when I arrived at BC water This was an organization that looked very similar to our to our our industry it was predominantly you know, white male at the top. But this is a utility that's more than 70% people of color work there. Yeah! There you go. That's my reason for being here. This utility and I really believe and i still believe in it has been fantastic the outcomes have been fantastic

43:15 But the people at the top, the executives, the chiefs in that C-suite they should look like uh... The employees that they serve and work with. And same thing with the community! So my executive team you know looks exact— Hold on a second If your'e the CEO your not serving the employees You're serving the public Can I just add what is the point of this? Of what? Of the series. Is it coming to a conclusion? Yeah, the point is that you have this situation where DEI is what Susan Rice was talking about and she wants to reimplement... Okay And this an example of where its headed which is sewage disasters by getting rid of Whitey at the top because the whitey at the top

44:07 Okay, is that enough? I can go on. Thank you! That helps...that helps Yes, you're right. The employees doesn't mean all black people don't know how to run a sewage plant but when it comes to DEI and people like Susan Rice yeah This is what you get that they serve and that they work with. And the same thing with the community, and so my executive team looks exactly like the community it looks like it looks like the employees, the staff be at people of color women men and it's just a fantastic team that has come together to do a lot of great things here at DC Water and in the community for the customer

44:49 Yeah, right. Well it's tough day for that guy. So yeah and you take people that know what they're doing and you get them out of there so you can put some of your buddies in and next thing you know the whole thing falls apart no one knows how to fix it. It's been going on for a month! And this is an example this last clip which I am sorry there are so many clips but I tried to keep him short but This is the Gattis intro on some show where this woman introduces him and you can see what all the priorities are. And she got named under some board that this guy put together, and he's so proud of himself for being a DEI guy. And this is what the Democrats are going to reintroduce when they get back in as this DEI bull crap which is not doing it during the public any good. It's costing more money than its worth

45:43 and connecting them to our well-established competitively viable minority owned firms. Today, in this special 50th anniversary episode we celebrate and pay tribute to an innovative leader and businessman Mr David Gaddis but before we start the conversation with him let me just tell you a little bit about him this is not his first induction into the Hall of Fame as I understand it He is, however the CEO and general manager of DC Water. In this role he oversees all authority including a $1 billion annual budget, a workforce of 1100 employees and the largest advanced wastewater treatment plant in the world I'd like to hear about that under his leadership DC water has emerged as a leader within the water sector on environmental justice and water equity programs such as the lead free dc program

46:37 which is eliminating all lead service lines within the district by 2030. Mr. Gattis has extended economic equity to the community through changes to the authority business development plan, which has improved access to contract opportunities for small and disadvantaged businesses and apprenticeship program that offers classroom and on-the-job training as well as the establishment of the authorities first ever Business Diversity Advisory Council, of which I'm a part. I'm very proud he also serves as chairman of the board of Blue Drop DC Water's nonprofit sales and marketing affiliate and is a frequent presenter at utility in government services conferences and with the National League of Cities and the National Association of Public Private Partnerships And before I bring him on you should know that prior to his service at D.C. water He led Viola

47:32 Water Indianapolis, CEO and President of Eola Water Indianapolis. He was the first African American CEO president and the first African American CEO to lead a major utility in Indianapolis Indiana so please help me welcome Mr David Gattas good day sir! Why didn't you say Comrade Gattas? That would have been... You might as well have. Thank you so much So you have to tell us about your induction into the Hall of Fame in basketball, University of Indiana. Okay, he gets to kill it now. They just talk about basketball for 10 minutes in kind of a stereotypical manner

48:14 But the this is and this guy's not mentioned in the NPR report, which just glossed it over and blamed climate change. I mean how much of this could we take? We have lost all faith in our institutions and our water plants are poop plants. You're right. Epstein or not, the president needs to step in here. And I see it as an opportunity you got to cut this stuff off There's a lot to say that this guy did no good. You know, along the same lines of DEI because I think it's part of the same problem is you know the fraud in Minnesota it's just more of the same problem all the Somalis yeah oh yeah let's set him up with they can do centers for kids and leering center Vice President Vance made his stand on what they're doing with what's-his-name Bacha? Is that the guy who's running CDC now

49:17 I think it is. Yeah, I think you're right. Here's his little statement which is nothing gets the news these days nothing is in the timeline because Epstein We're announcing today that we have decided to temporarily halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that are going to the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the state of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously, to be good stewards of the American people's tax money. Now what is this gonna mean? What this means is that first of all, the providers on the ground in Minnesota have actually already been paid. The state has paid those providers the money. What we're doing is stopping federal payments that will go to the state government until the state government takes its obligations

50:05 seriously to stop the fraud that's being perpetrated against the American taxpayer. There are a few different ways that we're doing that, there are a few different affirmative actions that were taking today Dr. Oz is going to talk about those but let me talk a little bit about the spirit of this and why we're doing it so number one one of the examples of fraud that we've seen in Minnesota that we verify that is just awful is that a program that existed to ensure that autistic children had access to some after-school services has made a number of people rich, not by providing services to needy children but by allowing fraudsters to take money that ought by right go to American citizens and to the American families and set up sham businesses, set up sham clients

50:54 set up people who are not even autistic but claim to be autistic in order that they benefit from the money that's out there. Now what does that mean? Number one, it means a lot of people are getting rich off the generosity of American taxpayers but more fundamentally and more importantly than It means that there are kids in Minnesota who deserve these services, who need these services and they're not going to those kids. They're going to fraudsters in Minneapolis. That is unacceptable and that's the sort of thing we're cutting off with this action today And I tell you, it's not just Minneapolis. Medicare was a boondoggle! There is another report in Austin company pulled in tens of millions of dollars they think maybe up to hundreds of millions of dollars

51:40 Billing Medicare for stuff that people never got. I mean, yeah Yeah, it's obvious It is unbelievable this it's all fraud He's always medical systems They you know used to have private doctors and these other own offices in the rest and now it's all become some sort of system Systematically they got phone tests that you don't need when you go down they get all these things They'll come back, you know. Oh you gotta do this, you gotta do that. You're pre-cancerous! We need to run some tests on ya'. Yeah and then there was... This was a fun fraud in Los Angeles

52:19 involving the superintendent of the Los Angeles School District. Tonight, LAUSD Superintendent Alberto Carvalho is the subject of an FBI investigation. Federal agents some in tactical gear seen entering Carvalho's San Pedro home Wednesday morning to execute a search warrant. Agents also searching Carvalho's office at district headquarters in downtown LA The FBI is not detailing the nature of the investigation, but confirms the warrants were served. The LA Times citing confidential law enforcement sources reports the probe is focused on Carvalho not LAUSD and may involve financial crimes according to the times. The investigation involves a former artificial intelligence company called Alhir that developed a chat bot known as Ed for LAUSD

53:08 All Here collapsed in 2024 amid allegations of massive financial fraud involving its founder and CEO, Joanna Smith Griffin who was arrested the same year. In a previous interview she promoted the company's use of AI in education. My name is Joanna Smith I'm the CEO of all here and we help schools to curb chronic absenteeism using chatbots powered by AI Pavalo promoted the AI tool in 2024, but after Smith-Griffin's indictment and arrest the district declined to use the technology. Man if I get another email from a teacher or an educator who says oh man once the Chromebooks came in everything went to hell in a handbasket

53:52 The kids figured out immediately how to bypass everything, how to get to the web, to get the porn. Get all of their AI for all of their test scores... And it's all about money! There were big payouts, schools getting all kinds of cash. Oh just take it? I mean Apple started and they did that probably out of the goodness in their hearts like hey we need to give these kids some computers And then they realized, like we're not really getting anything out of this. They stopped that program at a certain point saying yeah we're not going to do that and then... Yeah Apple was the leader. Yeah! Then they just disappeared from the scene It was the same time when they were given remember they were lending out apples? They would send you one I got one they sent me an apple 2 my first... Apple two? Yeah my first computer was an apple tool guy named Daniel Paul worked at Apple he's still out there

54:47 I don't think he's at Apple anymore. And then he sent me, and he says oh no, I was at MTV, you know how you gotta have a computer it's good and we want you to try it out? The interesting thing is several years later...I mean I was into my first What was it? The 540C. Wasn't that one of the... I don't remember the model numbers, there's a bunch of LCs and other ones. Well no this is the laptop they had the laptop and it was a color laptop oh man! And if you had five pixels- Was that big giant thing? No it wasn't that big. It wasn't that big but no that came in between with a trackball built in forget what that was called But then they have- I have one of those the giant thing Yeah with the track ball There has got to be a collectible I'm sure it is If you can find it

55:33 Well, I think it was the 540C and it was a laptop. It had the OS 7, I'm going to say? And I remember it so well because I had five pixels, five color pixels weren't working And Apple refused to take anything back unless it was more than five pixels. So they sold me a defective product, and they were expensive at the time there were $4000 maybe three four thousand dollars now that's expected couple pixels out that's just that's normal so tough luck Mr Vijay but Daniel Paul at that time said hey you have to send us the Apple II back

56:18 And I actually had to send it back. Why? That was their policy! We lent it to you and now we want it back. Now, why is the right question?" And of course went okay, I'll give it back to ya'. You could have just said yeah okay sure and then generally speaking these guys are so poor at record keeping that you say...I don't wanna say that I know this from experience but being in that business forever Okay, it's on its way. Got lost in the mail. Somebody checks the box and that's the end of it. And my how things are now between government and technology companies this latest spat between

57:05 And I think it's something else actually, between the Department of War and Anthropic is interesting to follow. The CEO of artificial intelligence company Anthropic We need to work together between companies and the government To better manage that time of disruption and bring better prosperity smoothly to all Dario Amodei's company has been working with the American government It was the only large language model being used in classified US networks That relationship is now at risk. Reuters reporting that U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told a MoDay in a meeting Tuesday, Anthropic must ease restrictions on how the military can use its AI. Anthropic is refusing to let its systems be used for autonomous weapon targeting

57:52 or to conduct US domestic surveillance. Hegseth is threatening to label the company as a supply chain risk, effectively banning it from working with the government or invoking the Defense Production Act to force Anthropic to give in. Hegseth argues U.S law is sufficient. I fully support that strike I would have made the same call. The US government attacked several boats it claims were carrying drugs, striking twice in one attack Democrats have called the strikes illegal A researcher says current laws governing war aren't sufficient for technology that identifies targets even attacks them without human oversight And these sort of norms that were created

58:32 decades, something like 50 years ago did not anticipate the type of technology that we have now. Branka Marian says AI finding selecting and engaging targets clouds responsibility so the conversation is too important to be private Reuters reports a Pentagon source says Anthropic has until 5 p.m Friday Eastern time to respond to Hegsath requests So, Anthropic is throwing it as far as I can tell on this. Well you know we are a company with the soul and... We don't want our work to be used for killing people. I think they're lying The hallucination the minute you hook up a large language model to some tools and i have some hands-on experience I've been building something very simple

59:22 you know, manage an online radio station with just prompts. And if the AI can't... it will lie continuously. It'll say oh yeah I did that! I said did you delete that file? Yeah no i deleted that Are you sure? Yeah look deleted it show me the list and it shows your lists of files in there so it's still there Oh I'm sorry let me go delete that And then it comes back, says see it's gone. And I can look at the file system and its still there These things... There is no control over this and I've tried to The best is X AI That thing is meant just engage you in bull crap The way that was trained and of course I could have known Something has been trained on Twitter data How good is that going to be in a production environment? Claude

1:00:13 Sometimes it says, oh this is literally a prompt that came back. I can't connect to my brain right now. Okay. Gemini... they all do it! No one has fixed the hallucination yet and its kind of funny when you're using a chat bot and its okay You know, for entertainment purposes. It's very entertaining! But in a real world production environment it is unreliable and they know it I think they all know it like well we don't want to get... That may be the reason so what you're implying Is that the reason Anthropic is so reluctant to let them go ahead with this stupid idea? Is because they know it's going to be a disaster and it's gonna reflect poorly on them Yes

1:00:58 And they have OpenAI as an example. Canadian officials have questioned leaders from OpenAI about the company's safety protocols following one of the country's worst ever school shootings earlier this month After the shooting, it was revealed that OpenAI had banned the ChatGPT account of the suspected shooter but did not tell police. Reporter Ryan Patrick-Jones says the case raises the question of just what tech companies are obliged or required to to report. OpenAI says it banned Jessy Van Rootselaar's account on its chatbot, ChachiPT, eight months before the shooting for violations of its safety policies. The company didn't exactly say what she did only that its automated systems flagged her account for possible misuse of its models quote in furtherance of violent activities

1:01:52 OpenAI says it considered whether to alert police at the time, but decided that the activity didn't quite meet its threshold of posing an imminent and credible risk of serious harm. They say they didn't identify any concrete or immediate planning so So, the company says it kind of had to balance whether to report to police with the importance of user privacy and the risk of over-enforcing and potentially causing unintended harm. Now after this shooting OpenAI did contact the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and shared information on Van Rootselaar's past use of chat GPT and they say they are continuing to assist investigators

1:02:36 In a statement after the meeting, OpenAI said it has taken steps to strengthen safeguards and has made changes to law enforcement referral protocols for cases involving violent activities. These companies are going to get blamed for everything. Everything! And probably rightly so we got a note from one of our producers Gen Zed. I've noticed a writing style of AI chatbots that i wanted to mention, perhaps you have noticed it too but now that i notice it like i see it everywhere especially all over x it goes like this blank is not just blank they're a blank describing them further expands with some BS to drive their point home for example it goes like this

1:03:18 Adam and John are not just podcasters, they are media deconstructors. Adam and John speak truth to power by breaking down the mainstream media's talking points and beating them at their own game." And once I realized what he was telling us here this format...I see it everywhere now too. He says he sees on LinkedIn work emails of course there has to be tons of bots on X. What's the model again? That's XAI I would say no you know the mother this blank blank. Okay, so blank is not just a blank They're a blank describing them okay? So they iterate so John is basically a trick for Padding it's a padding trick completely and it's just iteration 3d 3x iteration minimum yeah hmm like I see that so

1:04:15 I'm sorry, he's a millennial. So another thing related to this... Well you know, Erica Kirk is creepy Where'd you hear that? I didn't, I just deduced that. I didn't hear it from Candace Owens and then the big news of we can wrap up some AI stuff here and gosh this could have been so our exit strategy...I can't believe we didn't think of it. Claude does COBOL! What a great idea! Of course it does

1:05:14 Of course it can program COBOL. Yeah, the IBM stock tanked like 13% in one go because of all their mainframes running everything. We discussed this on DH Unplugged. Oh you did? And what did you say? What you're talking about now is obvious that IBM's under threat because it's their services business and once they— Claude does Red hat what happens next because their whole business is basically, you know service now they don't do anything when it comes to Troubleshooting Linux. I mean I've seen it happen It always winds up with the chat bot telling you you have to recompile your kernel So I'm not too worried about yet dudes named Ben will have business for a while but bottom line these things hallucinate they haven't fixed it they're papering over it and

1:06:06 And it's just not that great, other than eating up your tokens. Munching away. Munch? Yeah! Even Comic Strip bloggers kind of backed off. You know, oh Claude this is it jobs will be gone and you better get your affairs in order because AI is taking over everything you'll have nothing to do or you won't have a job but living on the street What... In what technological revolution has that happened when we invented electricity did everyone lose their job When we had the Industrial Revolution, did people lose jobs or were more jobs created? With desktop computing where more jobs created or lost. My favorite along these lines is that once they coined the term paperless office if you'd invested all your money in paper companies should be a multi-millionaire You'll be a Koch brother basically

1:07:02 So there's always that but there's one other this another story is floating around. There's a big news story this morning That's all we're talking about on the some of these shows, which is the LA lawsuit over social media familiar with what's going on here Yeah I think we played to clip a couple shows back Let's get into it's coming too ahead okay you got anything? I got one clip, I labeled it number one thinking i was going to get more and then I kind of crapped out. This is an NPR report or no this NTD LA lawsuit We're outside the Los Angeles Superior Courthouse where an engineer and data science professor took the stand today Professor John Chandler testified saying how social media companies generate billions of dollars through ad revenue from young users under the age of 18

1:07:49 Professor John Chandler told jurors that research estimates showed platforms made billions of dollars from users under 18, including roughly $5 billion from Instagram and more than two billion dollars from YouTube in a single year. However YouTube attorneys pushed back questioning how Chandler calculated watch time and ad exposure and pointing out that he does not personally use Instagram or knew all the features offered on the app Pictures were also shown how ads play on the YouTube app and showed Bad Bunny's NFL halftime performance as an example of how ads pop up. Plaintiff attorney Mark Lanier went into detail describing how ads are customized to certain users, saying when they log into their YouTube they are actually logging into their Google account which can send them ads based on their search history He also mentioned how children who lied about their age or being fed adult advertisements

1:08:37 For years, big tech has hidden behind predatory design, coercive tactics to manipulate, exploit and addict my generation of young people. Stealing the meaning of digital community right out from under us and I say no more! Many survivor parents attend the trial each day and on Wednesday about 20 held a press conference outside the courthouse. They called for what they described as common sense legislative solutions to address social media's impact on young users Yeah, how about no slave slabs for you child?

1:09:16 Survivor parents is a term they use and I'm surprised they don't use the term victims for all these social media users. This is a lawsuit one girl has brought forward, she's 20 I think... Yeah she says that she got addicted to Instagram She got addicted and she has mental health issues because of it. And they have, uh...and they're making a big stink out of it and they're suing Instagram and I don't know there's two or three social media operations going after her. I think YouTube is one of them. It's actually a big deal because I don't think you're gonna win because the guys that counter arguments are too strong to blame their parents. Yeah! So do I

1:10:00 Yeah, it is the parents fault. I blame the parents but all i've noticed is ever since you know smartphones everything that and there's really been up in a great innovation since then of course now AI supposed to be the great innovation everything has just gotten worse your battery runs down quicker because of all this nonsense that's running around doing stuff for you um yeah search engines suck Just suck. Everything's just kind of gotten worse Has that not been your experience in you know with five decades in the tech industry? No, I think they've always been bad and so anything has really gotten that much worse and it is it's always entertaining at some level and

1:10:57 It's hard to say. I mean, the social media stuff is... The addictive aspect of it with the algo and all the rest is probably concerning and I think people should be aware of it something that didn't exist at this level before. But parents are addicted themselves! And yet that is the problem. That's a bad example. Yeah yeah I agree So Samsung is coming out with their Galaxy S26 And then I can put one, not two but three AI engines in there. Why? Oh! I'm glad you asked Because, so we'll have Gemini perplexity. So Gemini for agentic tasks like booking rides and doing things across apps for you. Perplexity for web-based queries and then... An upgraded version of Samsung's own Bixby which I noticed myself as all the sudden my now dead foldable phone went like Hi! I'm Bixby how can i help you?

1:12:00 Really? Is this the same as Clippy or that little dog that used to be in the corner? With a name like Bixby it might as well be. So it's going to book Uber rides for you automatically when you have to go to dinner after it already... Because there is so much work, it's hard to go on the app, the Uber app and click-click a couple of times and get your ride figured out. They're out of ideas! That's the whole point they're out of ideas Well, we got this cool stuff you know and your agent can talk to my agent. This is in the press release Your agent talks to my agent they set a date for dinner and then it'll automatically book our rides It'll pre-order our favorite meals I mean every like

1:12:49 This is why I said on the last show, like we are the robots. Companies just using the phones to control us and it's working. Pre-order a favorite meal. You don't go to a restaurant to eat your favorite meal necessarily you'd go there maybe... There used be places that always had these frog legs that would always go there But you don't still look at the menu and say, wait a minute. This isn't different let me try that. I guess that's out of the question now. So lawmakers in Colorado have come up with a genius idea. This is Senators Matt Ball and Amy Pashal they're state senators. They came up with SB 26051 requiring operating systems such as Apple Google or Microsoft but they appear to also have thrown in open source

1:13:41 You will now have to verify your age upon installing or starting up the operating system. So they figure, oh the way to do this is you have to verify your age through the operating system and after that everything else has to adhere to that age verification How about that for an idea? Well you mean everything defaults to that Yeah Everything defaults to it yeah So that's not going to work. No, what do you think? These kids are stupid. Yeah yeah so we're in a dad can use all the operating system for me oh yes sure okay I'm good to go thanks I mean come on what could possibly go wrong

1:14:36 This is all virtue signaling. Yeah, but it was you're gonna talk about this sort of thing since we're talking about computers and stuff I do have another short presentation a nice get rid of okay This is the video game Sick Report. Oh, okay! What makes more money than the music industry and the film industry combined? The answer is found in The Click of a Mouse, The Flick of a Thumbstick I'm talking about video games Yeah... yeah it's what is almost ten times the size of Hollywood now Yeah that's pretty big But what is The Flick of a Thumbstick Did you hear that Luke? This is our expert reporting from NPR. Let me hear that again! What makes more money than the music industry and the film industry combined? The answer's found in the click of a mouse, the flick of a thumbstick I'm talking about video games. Oh! Thumbsticks is how I control the entire show. Thumbsticks... And do you flick the thumbsticks?! Yeah, that's how I forgot to record. I was flicking the thumb stick and I thought it went

1:15:39 Okay, well they strained out and discussed joysticks for a little bit here with part two. Last year the video game industry generated around $190 billion in revenue according to outlets that track it so how did this medium go from the arcade into a global juggernaut? That is the subject of a new podcast series called Hidden Levels which is a collaboration between 99% and this is a house ad. It's a house ad that you're playing in. I would say about half of the stuff on NPR now is house ads for Their podcast is you can receive wherever you get your podcasts visible and endless thread from member station WBUR in Boston and Ben Brock Johnson is here. He's the creator of hidden levels and the co-host of endless thread Hi, Ben. Hi Emily. You can be player one I'll be player two Your series is so fantastic it covers so many interesting things at six episodes

1:16:35 And one of them is all about the history of the joystick, because its origins have nothing to do with gaming. Turns out. Yeah this was a really fun episode. The joystick is born in their early 1900's it has a somewhat murky origin uh... It gets introduced into the aviation industry first to better control some of the first airplanes. That makes sense? Yeah but then then the joystick gets incorporated and really perfected by the video game industry starting in the 70s as a tool that has become the way to extend our bodies via machine. It's just used everywhere now. Yeah, when I was training to fly helicopter and airplanes, I always had to learn how to use the joystick and I think on my test I even had to say you know but you use the joystick to control the plane morons!

1:17:26 So this is the level of discourse we have on NPR when it comes to tech. So here's a third clip which I have labeled WTF, meaning there's something stupid in here. Well you can say there's something stupid in all these clips that I have today but this is, there's something particularly stupid here. Shane Rivera, a psychotherapist who works with LGBTQ youth in South Carolina. And Rivera described how a person they were working with found a safe space for her own identity in the video game The Sims Little by little she herself started to try out different things that her avatar did

1:18:08 different types of makeup, different types of clothing until she settled into this style that was much more her rather than a preconceived notion of masculinity or femininity. I'm so taken with that because at the core of gaming is play and play is how you can discover yourself. And it reminds me of this game called Life Is Strange True Colors, the character in that game can fall in love with either a man or woman and was a way that I explored an ultimately found my own bisexuality. Oh! This is a call back to Gamergate this is where all started

1:18:47 This is where all of the woke stuff started to rear its head, and we ignored it for months until there was no ignoring it. And this is where it came from, where you had this huge pressure... From video game reviewers and magazines and websites like you're, you know all of your characters are sexy chicks And this is no good. We've got to have equity and equality and it started with Gamergate That was the genesis of it popping up and here we are It saved an NPR host from from hooking up with a dude too much

1:19:28 Yeah, now she's discovered she's bi. Her own bisexuality? Yes her own... She discovered it by playing games! Nice! Yeah video games got her into uh chicks into lesbianism basically yeah so okay well that's good to know here's another clip That is good to know that's just swell! Swell guys We need to bring the word swell back. Swell! That's just swell Because I could fall in love with both and they both were great storylines equally. And the game really allowed me that so, so you're saying that games can be places where people can grapple with real world things? They're not just escapism. Absolutely and that's wow! That's such a meaningful example, you know, and why representation is important right in these spaces. Representation these spaces... Is this why this guy is on to talk about representation in these spaces? Is that why he got him on?

1:20:27 I have no idea why they even did this. NPR has gone down the toilet. This is great! It's just a gay cabal now, give me a break. Gay cabal? That's what it is. Cooperation...it's kind of pathetic and they're so proud of themselves. Oh they are. You know when I'm listening to a host I don't give a crap about their sexuality and I don't want to throw in my face Oh man. Here we go, wrap up with the BS. Okay... I think games are really a you know ultimately they're of reflection of us right in our own capacity for building things or destroying things and everything in between not only are video games huge they're also impacting our world in ways that we don't really realize and appreciate Tell me about this sexuality it's in your DNA No! It's in my video game That's where it is

1:21:22 Well, I do like the fact that one of those... One of the big gaming consoles is now all Linux and gave up on Windows. I think that's kind of cool if i were Microsoft I'd be concerned about that What does the big platform that just came out with a huge console? I have no idea what you're talking about Yeah! One of the big gaming consoles is now all Linux The Sony? No PlayStation? No Microsoft's dropping the Xbox. Steam, steam, steam. Steam? Yeah, Steam has all the games. Has a lot of games not all the games. I thought that was online stuff! I didn't know that was a console. Valve...I think valve is the name of the console yeah yeah and they sell pre-made Linux boxes now. Good for them

1:22:12 All right, let's talk about the State of the Union which the President did. He sounds a little tired from time to time. I thought it was... He went 148. Yeah, I thought it was a good joke. A good joke was stand up if you stand for the American people over illegal immigrants. That was that was a fun move! I have a copy of that on the clip list Yes but let me before we...I'll let you do these clips i just want to play one The takeaway this morning on CNN Among speech watchers tonight 64% say his policies will move the US in the right direction and look at the growth President Trump made over the speech so pre-speech

1:22:49 It was 54% of speech watchers said his policies will move the US in the right direction. After the speech, that number goes up 10 percentage points so Donald Trump made some progress with people watching this speech from their pre-speech expectations to what they saw in the speech itself and that's 64% number that's pretty much in range across all of his State of the Union addresses. In this first term, last year at the joint session that's about what we've seen is roughly two-thirds have walked away from a speech thinking he's going to move it in the right direction so a lot of red meat for the base? Yeah there's no doubt about that If you're a Republican on the ballot in 2026, I think you leave this speech being as happy as you could possibly be. That he sort of stuck to the script on the economy He gave red meat to the base on immigration and they can leave the home tonight and sort of take that out on the campaign trail That was surprise that CNN did the report and that the numbers were that high

1:23:45 I didn't expect that. These things are always just a performance, doesn't matter who's doing them and it's either a performance from the Republicans in the audience and a Democrat president or vice versa It's always the same thing Yeah it's...it's a joke Yeah this is joke yes so what do you have? I just have some of the highlights. Let me go, I'm going to start with the one that I because there's a little tidbit in here that one person I saw bring it up and i'm gonna bring it up too this is State Of The Union this is when he talks about Irina the woman who was murdered on the train

1:24:24 North Carolina, I guess it was. And to get... Now he's doing some of the stuff where he points out somebody in the audience, you have their family there and they and then the Democrats would sit, and the Republicans would clap. And here's an example. President Trump is also honoring and vowing justice for Anna Zyrucka that's the mother of 23-year old Irina Zyrucka, the Ukrainian refugee who was fatally stabbed last August in Charlotte North Carolina light rail train her killing attracted a lot of attention uh... intense criticism over why the suspect was on the street despite 14 prior arrests take a look

1:24:59 She had escaped a brutal war only to be slain by a hardened criminal, set free to kill in America. Came in through open borders Mrs. Zaretska tonight I promise you we will ensure justice for your magnificent daughter Irina How do you not stand? How do you not stand? So the thing about how do you not stand, which to me would be great irony was they put a camera on people like Elizabeth Warren and it's all these Democrats. They all didn't stand for the Ukrainian girl and they all had little Ukraine flags on

1:25:38 They had these little Ukraine flags. Elizabeth Warren has a Ukraine flag and then an American flag just underneath it, which is kind of the opposite of the way it should be. And I could be wrong about their order but I'm pretty sure that the Ukraine flag was on top But it's about Ukraine, they didn't stand. I mean to me it was priceless in terms of the hypocrisy Well, I like your report there saying got a lot of attention If I recall correctly It took the mainstream media two weeks To give this attention There was no one talking about except podcasts Yeah! I happen to remember these things You do? you remembered that As a podcaster

1:26:23 Let's go with, here is the aliens clip. President Trump last night making history with the longest record of the State of Union address clocking in at just under an hour and 48 minutes. And a large focus of the presidents address last night was on his administrations immigration and crime policies This is as he demands the full and immediate restoration of all funding for the Department of Homeland Security. The president is also last night calling on Congress to pass what he says he will call the Delilah Law, that would be a law banning any state from granting commercial driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. President stressing his reasoning there

1:26:59 that many illegal immigrants do not speak English and thus have trouble reading basic road signs. And the so-called Delilah Law is named after a little girl who was in the audience last night, Delilah Coleman who was five when she was critically injured in a car crash caused by trailer driven by an illegal immigrant. She miraculously survived those critical injuries and was there with her father take a look. Marcus a fantastic man, Delilah please you are great inspiration please stand up So tonight I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens not illegal aliens

1:27:48 You should be ashamed of yourself not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself. It got annoying, it's like okay don't you know how this works? They don't stand, you say stand they don't stand...you're unpatriotic, you're no good. He is funny I mean he's definitely milking it the last was the boycott clip Meanwhile, Kevin, a historically unprecedented number of lawmakers actually boycotted President Trump's State of the Union last night north of 70 lawmakers. And there are also counter addresses scheduled at the same time. There is the People's State Of The Nation there on the National Mall here and there was State Of The Swamp at the national press conference

1:28:31 And House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries told Democratic lawmakers who did attend to silently defy the president's remarks, although some were more vocal about their dissent including Representative Ilhan Omar who during his part about immigration policy was calling the president a liar and a murderer during his speech. Meanwhile Governor Abigail Spanberger of Virginia gave the official Democratic rebuttal criticizing President Trump's immigration policy. Our president told us tonight that we are safer Because these agents arrest mothers and detain children? Think about that. Our broken immigration system is something to be fixed, not an excuse for unaccountable agents to terrorize our communities." What?! Yeah! Oh brother... No... Oh brother... But you should have seen the alternate

1:29:24 events. Now I have a clip, it's very short clip about that from Reuters. Several Democrats opted to skip Trump speech and instead went to an event dubbed the Peoples State of the Union others went to a different counter-event called The State Of The Swamp where actor Robert De Niro addressed the crowd including activists dressed as frogs. Again, it's all so... Now they're trying to get the influencers to pay attention too. Look we got- We're dressed as frogs! Oh yeah this'll go viral Yeah it'll go viral no problem

1:30:01 You know, someone asked me like whoa how can Elon Omar be yelling that? I said this goes back to the first time i remember someone calling out the president from uh from from the seats was um President Obama in 2009. Was it uh the guy from uh forget his name Wilson Joe Wilson called he's like you're lying! I called him out as a liar. And then Marjorie Taylor Greene called out Biden, I think this is... Get back to work all of you sick of it now? I have one clip from the State of the Union because in case you didn't know

1:30:45 We are now currently in the Golden Age. A primetime pitch to the nation from a president not known for his brevity, true to form Donald Trump delivered the longest State of The Union address in history I'm sure he went home and we're like Melania, it was a long... I got the record. Longest state in the union ever? Yeah. The longest one ever maybe? I'm sure he did! As his approval ratings slide and concerns about affordability grow, the president insisted Americans have never had it so good Our nation is back bigger better richer and stronger than ever before

1:31:23 His greatest hits were on full display. No tax on tips, doubling down on tariffs and a promise to stay tough on immigration. The only thing standing between Americans and the wide open border right now is President Donald J Trump and our great Republican patriots in Congress thank you. The speech was often interrupted by cheers and chants of USA The Olympic gold medal winners in the US men's hockey team received a standing ovation. But at times, tensions spilled into the chamber. He should be ashamed of himself! That is why I'm also asking you to end deadly sanctuary cities that protect the criminals and enact serious protections... Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar shouted in protest during the president's remarks on immigration and the Somali community in her home city of Minneapolis

1:32:23 Fellow Democratic lawmaker Al Green was escorted from the chamber. He had waved a sign protesting a video the president had posted depicting the Obamas as apes. We're lucky we have a country with people like this, Democrats are destroying our country but... And dozens of other Democrats had refused to show up in the first place. Okay it's all so tiring Like, how many State of the Unions have we covered in the course of this show? 25 maybe. Well it comes out once a year so probably not 25. Well like it can't be 50 I don't think I can remember that. Once a year! Yeah but I guess we have... Once a years and we've done about 18 of them yeah oh We had the most state-of-the-union coverage being on our podcast ever

1:33:21 That's true. You're not getting there, but if you want to try it keep working on it I'll encourage you There are so many people out there... I'd rather do Alex Jones. Listen Iran is going to blow up. The Muslims are taking over Texas. I read their documents and have seen it It's in their documents! Yeah your Alex Jones is...I would say 90% And I kept, in fact you're so far along. I have no suggestions that you normally say well if you could twist it a little bit this way. No prompting? They have no prompts for me oh this is good Maybe the cadence could change and I can't say any of that because your got it to such an extreme that I can't help. I'm getting there It's up to you

1:34:09 Get in front of a mirror. That's still the big thing here in Texas. Oh, the isla Sharia law is coming now They're gonna take it and I people say this to me aren't you afraid of sharia law? No We're becoming Sweden we're becoming the UK I said no check the numbers borders are closed And it took 25 years for this mess to happen in the EU, and I saw it happen. I saw it before my very eyes! You need open borders for this to happen and a complete always communist government... ...and a complete subdued population

1:34:55 But it's the Republican talking point. Just like Mondami, it's gonna be there everywhere! So that'd be pretty funny. Anyway... Iran ABC report from this morning The US is increasing its military presence in the Middle East adding to a show of force against Iran. In a rare move a U.S official telling ABC News tonight about a dozen Air Force F-22 fighters have now landed in Israel today The fighters spotted taking off from a base in the UK. President Trump threatening US military action against Iran unless the Iranian regime agrees to a nuclear deal. All right, all right we're ratcheting it up let's go to CBS! The world's largest aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald R Ford sailed into an American naval base on the Greek island of Crete today with multiple squadrons of F-18 fighter jets seen on deck

1:35:49 The Pentagon has moved at least 120 aircraft to the region in the past two weeks alone. Pressure is mounting inside Iran, too. Thousands of students protested against the regime—the first demonstration since the brutal crackdown in January that left thousands dead. President Trump is weighing his options. I think they want to make a deal. I don't think they want the consequences of not making it here Potential targets could include Iran's ballistic missile sites, its nuclear facilities

1:36:26 And the headquarters of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. Iran's foreign minister said the country was ready to fight. We have a very good capability of missiles and now we are even in a better situation than previous wars. Iran has not only threatened retaliation against US bases in the region, but Israel... I love the Nat Pops in CBS' report that got explosion after explosion! Directly Whoa! If Iran retaliates, it might not just be Iran. We've been fighting the last two and a half war on seven different fronts. We've seen multiple enemies. U.S. officials say if President Trump does decide to hit Iran one option is a joint military operation between the United States and Israel both countries have discussed hitting Iran's ballistic missile sites Yeah because as you know

1:37:23 Bibi Netanyahu told Trump what to do and Trump went, okay baby. I don't know how you're gonna do that Here's Canada's global news and then a surprising report from France 24. With his country still inching towards conflict, US President Donald Trump used some of his primetime speech to issue a direct warning to Iran to give up its nuclear desires We wiped it out and they want us start all over again Iranian officials pushed back on Trump's rhetoric calling it quote big lies We're in no way seeking nuclear weapons, Iran's president said in recent days. Despite sites destroyed and 2025 appearing to be rebuilt which adds pressure to another round of upcoming diplomatic talks the President was measured when it came to the conflict in Iran he definitely didn't saber-rattle he didn't make threats

1:38:15 He didn't need to. The massive U.S. military buildup around Iran speaks to America's distrust. If you choose diplomacy and respect Iran's dignity and interests, Iran's parliamentary speaker said we will stay at the table. The US has hinted at potential olive branches including small-scale uranium enrichment provided there is zero path to a nuclear weapon and failure to do so could result in consequences This is him making the decision to use military force to achieve his own policy objectives. There are reports senior Pentagon officials have expressed concerns about a large response, saying munitions stockpiles are low due to American defense of Israel and support for Ukraine

1:38:54 potentially giving the president room to delay his decision. That probably gave the American people a little bit of a sigh of relief, but it doesn't absolve the fact that this is still a very hot situation and the President has to convince people that this is in the nation's best interest. Still time is running out with a 10 or 15 day deadline imposed by Donald Trump quickly coming to an end. Okay So, what we discussed on the last show I think is still very much in play. This is to stop any oil going to China or Russia. Hey let us in and let our American companies

1:39:32 Set up shop, we'll do the refining. We'll do the shipping. We'll do dropshipping for you. We'll do gift cards whatever you want. We'll take care of that will even give you some of those cool little reactors that were shipping around with the Air Force is flying all over the place Just do a deal I still don't understand why the president it to me is lying about this You know I want to rebuild It just doesn't ring true at all And France 24 came very close I think in this report. people like Jared Kushner will appreciate the fact that possibly they can implement the peace board, the extension of Abraham Accords and reshape this region for which they also have a vision and ambition in their own ideology. And we'll see in the coming days how their own

1:40:37 strategy applies on the ground. of my enemy is my friend. Right now, it seems as though there are these kind of two worlds U.S allies China its allies and then these kind of the India's of the world that are trying to navigate the middle end so it's not surprising that China is trying to align a little bit with Iran in order to push back in a balance of power kind of way against the United States because that's kind of what this these spheres of influence are right now So it's not surprising at all

1:41:26 First time I've heard any news report talk about China in regards to this Iranian gambit. Well, glad somebody picked it up! Barely though barely it's like come on It's so obvious after Venezuela This is now this is what has to happen And you know You're not gonna get your oil out of the Straits of Hormuz through the Armada So do a deal And then come on into the world and everybody can play nice. Can it be anything else? It's clearly not some nuclear facility... No one is saying, we'll have the bomb in one week! Nukes coming! That that's off the table Well Whitcox did say that recently I don't have the clip He did

1:42:12 Out of the blue, I think this was like about three or four days ago, Witkoff has said exactly that. Oh what a douche! He's off script! Who would know what it was? I see...I think he had his binder and he flipped to the wrong tab. He's off script And it was like from five years ago is what you say. He's getting his information from chat GPT on-the-fly Well Bixby said, Bixby said they're gonna have a nuke in one week In one week So one of the most controversial things that I have heard ever seen happen on this show, as we made a call out and said listen. We have now seen so many times a social media post where American troops are being served steak and lobster and it immediately goes around as that's it! Steak and lobsters! They're gonna be deployed strikes are coming

1:43:06 And I said, please to our military producers of which there are many. Could you please let me know what your experience is? Well this is super interesting because it may have to do with what service you're in but I will share a few...I'm sorry? Yes we have two notes in particular and they contradict each other! Well I have about eight notes that contradict each other First one I spent 31 years in the Navy went on deployment and they give us steak and lobster It's usually because we're getting extended and not going home. It's true next one My husband who served in the army and retired after 20 years of service in 2021 had seven tours to Iraq and Afghanistan said

1:43:53 A very long time ago when chow halls and kitchens were only a couple of bases, they would ship hot meals in these military Yetis. And they would serve that before after an operation in the early 2000s but now it's every Friday everywhere basically all the time on Fridays so the videos that are going around social media are just Friday next one yeah I love these your sense this was BS? Brother you're right! I served as a cook In the US Army, now we have Navy and Army different things. For 10 years from 88 to 98 I've served in both procurement and production capacities in large-scale dining facilities these operate on a modest budget generally they plan for three week menu cycle to balance consistency with variety while special meals were planned in and they could deviate under special circumstances it was rarely done too done to financial

1:44:49 constraints. In September every year it was clear which facilities had budgeted well, those who would shift to steak and shrimp we never produce lobster weekly those which manage finances poorly would swap ham and omelets to bologna orange juice to kool-aid to cut costs ahead of the first fiscal year so okay then we have Retired from the Army, 2018. Master Sergeant 20 years of active duty service The steak and lobster theory is bullshit I can only speak from the army perspective The Air Force probably has steak and lobster on the days they don't have prime rib and caviar

1:45:27 With that being said, most soldiers don't even eat in the dining facilities outside of breakfast. Even the numbers are smaller than most people assume I believe there's the theory that all soldiers live in barracks with a chow hall across the street Most soldiers live at home with their family either on post housing or in a house or apartment off base. They eat their dinners at home, take their lunch or go out and eat in one of the many fast food restaurants in base if they are in a defense ready for status they're still living off post can't drink and usually have an hour recalling could be anywhere in the world than about 18 hours Soldiers living in the barracks are generally on a meal card that allows them to eat at the dining facility for free. Everyone else gets charged, soldiers not on meal cards are on basic allowance for their substance they're paid $476 a month to get their own food wherever they wish

1:46:17 And we have Commodore Matt, the metal bender. I just heard your immediate call to arms! I can confirm! I served in the US Navy and it was widely known if you get surf and turf while you're out at sea bad news is coming Some ships would also bring out ice cream machines that they didn't usually have for the same purpose The idea was to boost morale before dealing a big blow So it seems the Navy may be doing this Then we have the final one, Sir M. Madson of Mid Valley I deployed to Iraq Afghanistan a few times and enjoyed many meals at dining facilities in Kuwait Qatar and Romania. I can tell you from my experience that service members eating steak lobster and crab means it's Friday. Friday night is usually surf-and-turf night just like Wednesday is wings night and Tuesday as taco night in many chow halls and dining facility facilities military wide

1:47:08 So, the only thing I can see here is that maybe the Navy does this but everybody else seems to think it's just Friday. Yeah, Friday! And I think we've solved this... I don't want much to solve but... It's Friday! At least we got the bullcrap out of the way. It's Friday Thank you for the social media and it's great insights And with that, I wanna thank you for your courage saying in the morning To You The Man Who Put The Sea In China's Roll In Iran Say hello to my friend on the other end The one and only Mr John C. DeMora

1:47:47 And the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Let me count you for a second. 1532, should be 1800 today. Those are the trolls hanging out in the troll room that means they are listening live either at TrollRoom.io or NoAgendaStream.com Or perhaps they're using one of those fabulous modern podcast apps Can't wait for the new Podverse to come out it's gonna blow the socks off everybody Oh I had podcasting news by the way Podcasting News!

1:48:27 Yes, I had podcasting news. So you know everyone's like oh you got to do a video podcast! Video podcasts is gotta be... if it's not a video podcast then it has gotta be a video podcast so Spotify was the first to jump on the video podcast yeah you can upload your video to us for your video podcast what's happening is and boy we could have seen this coming from a mile away Now that you can create video podcasts and Spotify will put you up there in the top ranking podcast, because of course it's all about the chart man. You got to be in the chart if you're not on the chart no one is going to listen your podcasts certainly not watch your podcast so guess what shows up between Megyn Kelly and Joe Rogan and others? Porn

1:49:19 And there's all these porn podcasts and now Spotify is going, what's a porn podcast do? It's they're just uploading porn. It's a podcast and calling it a podcast. Hey, hey today is redhead day What do you think Adam? We got some redheads lined up Oh yeah There's some bunch of them they all the year get this skinny ones me the big ones top everyone's what are we gonna start with today Adam? What do you think I All I can do is go back to this. So now Spotify, it's like so obvious this was gonna happen! Now Spotify has to employ 30 people To go and check every video podcast that makes sure it's not porn Like didn't you know that was gonna happen? It's so obvious

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1:52:29 Slave slab. That's it because these things are clearly not phones They are a slab that you are enslaved to and then we're carrying it around literally in your hand while walking down the street Sometimes two one on each hand, it's amazing That's only women though for some reason lot of women have two phones thing It's the family phone and the worst in case just in case And we argued over, well we discussed many different pieces. We chose Rocket Boys throwback to 2001 is it 2001 Odyssey? Is that it? Yeah and I was surprised by when you were doing the post-mortem on the show after afterwards that you had never seen this movie

1:53:18 I can't recall seeing it. Of course, I know Open the Pod Bay Doors hell but I don't think I've actually seen it so I have put on the listing. I have put on the list well you know... You know what? I'm thinking about because that movie came out in the 80s or 70s maybe I was in Holland and they didn't have a possible way but I'm wondering because I haven't seen it for awhile whether it's even watchable anymore That's probably why I have never gone and said, oh, I should watch this thing. You know what was interesting? We wanted to watch Spin City! We thought you know hey it would be fun to watch Spin City with Michael J Fox as a...as an old show just kind of reminisce that is not available And if you search for it says not available because license expiration So there's a show that should be on

1:54:11 Pluto or at least someone should pick that up. That was a good show anyway Yeah, it may be unwatchable kind of like the Colossus movie What was that? Was I think all for been the Forbidden Project? I think that's still kind of watchable hmm So it was Dan OBGYN 4 and he's had the image, which I did not remember because I probably haven't seen the movie. You said this is a monolith! It's the monolith don't you see? It's the monolith! Like what are you talking about? It's a big phone in the middle of a valley. I thought his...I bought...Dan I thought this was the art I picked

1:54:50 Yes, you did but I had to but Adam was so adamant about not getting it I have to assume that if he didn't get and there's a lot of people that probably didn't get it If he didn't get it. Yeah, so We went to another version the same art only more I would say surreal yeah And we picked the other version which looks a lot like a phone in front of an orange butt plug Which is the first thing you saw that was, which I thought was dimensional thinking. So it's like holy mackerel! I didn't get that. I still can see it but okay... When was the last time you saw a butt plug? Well I don't go around looking for them. I think the last time I saw one was when Adam Schiff gave his speech. Ahhhh there it is everybody

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2:06:33 Incidentally, most people do prefer to hear themselves speak quite unlike the typical Noah Jenner listener. We have the foresight to listen to our beloved crockpot and puzzle analyze the news of the day or even the news of yesteryear." That reminds me... he's using all these little terms we can use now thank you this what would be without you You two are like a couple of swell gifts brought to a housewarming party in 1976. Wow, wow! We're too swell gifts... Anyway I was considering your request for the following jingles mystical shape-shifting Somalians Trumpy loves Trotsky I love my train and I love your beef stew The classic O'Biden I can carry eggs And they always give me back rub on the airplane

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2:13:45 Uh, Dara and I are delighted to be presenting the first BAFTA of the night for a vital part of movie making. Oh my colleague! I love how... was it Jamie Foxx who said no man he meant that? It's such a controversy you get a Tourette's guy at an award show hello yeah what do you expect to happen yeah I never had that kind of Tourette's. No, that's extreme and that happens a lot Yeah And once in awhile you run into it and I feel sorry for people they get don't under...that have it happen to them They're the Tourette's sufferer It happened..I was headed there on a flight once and some poor guy came in he obviously had Tourettes and he was freaking out

2:14:31 dragging his luggage backwards off the wheels and cussing like a maniac. Trying to put his bags up while cussin' and cussin'. And they took him off the plane, I felt really bad about it because I knew it was momentary. Well when you're on the plane then you can't help but say BOMB! BOMB! BOMB! But that's what Tourette is. It's like a severe OCD where you think, I'm not going to blink my eyes and not going to blink my eyes... Oh crap! I'm blinking my eyes like crazy! I can't stop! That's what it is. And if you have the really bad kind, it's like oh I can't say bomb on this airplane. Bob! That's what it is. It's uh yeah it's tough You know Steve Jobs had a little bit of Tourette's did you know that?

2:15:24 No, but I'm trying to imagine him... Well if you look at that video where he announces podcasting and then you know i'm cussin' about my Mac hard drive suckers. Yeah yeah it's a classic If you look at him He laughs and then he ticks his head like three or four times Oh the old head The old head tick yep Like Stephen Miller has Like I have Yeah well.. Yeah I do Yeah, you have yeah. I do it or you did yeah? You don't have the blinky blink Oh, I do oh the blinky blink a lot the blinking whenever I go on Rogan The Blinkie blink is hard to control my socks But that but it's cool you look at the YouTube comments people like What does that guy like resetting every five seconds and then get a comment under it someone say hey man? Yes, let's leave Malone, okay

2:16:15 I'm a victim, you see. I'm a victim and then people stick up for me It's good. I like it Let's go with Kash Patel's hockey fiasco NPR This is pretty funny The stupidest thing of the week So Ryan, I want to start with Kash Patel's trip to Milan I think a lot of people have seen that video of him partying with the US men's hockey team Is that why this is getting so much attention? Short answer, yeah. That is certainly a lot of it. Look FBI directors are traditionally very serious buttoned up professionals Robert Mueller is one example you know they wear suits and a tie they carry the FBI in its huge responsibilities on their shoulders we're talking terrorism investigations fighting drug cartels catching foreign spies trying to steal America's secrets

2:16:58 And then juxtapose that with the video of Patel and Milan celebrating with the US men's hockey team in the locker room after their gold medal win over Canada. In that video, Patel is chugging a bottle of beer, he sprays some in the air, he pumps his fist, bangs on a table, jumps around and sings with the team... So this episode has certainly added to concerns including among current and former FBI officials about Patel's temperament and his fitness for this big important job. What has Patel had to say about the criticism over this video? He tried to brush it off, he said in a post on X that he loves America and was humbled to celebrate with Team USA. Am I mistaken that Kash Patel plays hockey, played hockey? Yeah he's an adult. He plays not pro but not semi-pro but he plays a...He's in the league and is a hockey player. He's nuts about it But thats not the controversy And coach of the national team is his buddy Oh! And his buddy invited him to say hey come on you want to come into the back? Sure ill come back there

2:17:56 And so they made a big fuss about it because, you know he was acting like a dude in the winning locker room. No no the fuss is about the airplane! Well, that became the... I think that's a secondary fuss because they're trying to add on to the main fuss. But the main fuss was this lack of decorum. Really? He should have been in there with his suit and tie saying stop it boys! Stop singing! But here is part two of this clip Now the top Democrat on Senate Judiciary Committee says he has evidence that Patel's past travel has actually hampered FBI investigations What can you tell us about that Right. This is Illinois Democratic Senator Dick Durbin, he said in a letter to the government accountability office yesterday that whistleblowers have come forward with information that Patel's decisions about the use of FBI planes have hampered a couple of high-profile investigations one instance according to Durbin an FBI team was delayed at least a day getting to Utah after conservative activist Charlie Kirk's assassination there because of a plane and pilot shortage caused Durbin says by Patels personal flights

2:18:55 Durbin also says a team of FBI investigators was unable to fly to Rhode Island after the shooting at Brown University because of Patel's decisions about planes. Now, FBI spokesman Ben Williamson has rejected both of those allegations on Brown University specifically Williams said on X that Patel was in Florida visiting his parents at the time but that there was no issue with aircraft being unavailable Needless to say, though this issue—this travel issue for Patel is not going away. And Paris Ryan Lucas thanks as always. Thank you. It's jet gate! This thing has legs they're gonna go after him they're gonna go after him real hard

2:19:31 Here's the Jake Tapper. The Tapper did a whole segment on it, oh is outrageous! Believe it or not that's your FBI director, Pat Schapel celebrating with US men's hockey team after their overtime win against Canada to win the gold medal It was an incredible win that all Americans can celebrate now why exactly the FBI? Except Patel. All Americans can celebrate, but not Patel. FBI director who you might think would be busy with all sorts of things why he's in the locker room in Italy seemingly pounding beers along with the team

2:20:16 Well, you can be forgiven if your own beers unlike Jake Tapper who was pounding beers at the deputy CIA director's birthday party Okay asking that question especially after FBI spokesman Ben Williamson was lashing out at a reporter from a different network on Twitter the day before the game for asking whether Patel was going to attend The match the FBI spokesperson writing quote your rag outlet is wrote that he went to hang out at the Olympics on the taxpayer dime even when provided information that your theory was false unquote now the FBI is denying this was a personal trip for Patel they say the director flew to Milan on the FBS FBI's Gulfstream private jet for meetings with Italian law enforcement and security officials adding that the FBI plays a major role in Olympic security and that the trip was planned months in advance of course

2:21:03 The Olympics was planned years in advance. Director Patel responded to the criticism on X, apparently not taking it very seriously writing quote for the very concerned media yes I love America and was extremely humbled when my friends the newly minted gold medal winners on Team USA invited me into the locker room to celebrate this historic moment with the boys unquote of course the issue is not whether or not Kash Patel loves America it's about his judgment and whether or not he's embarrassing the bureau, and the perks he grabs. And the seriousness with which he treats his job. And one would think the FBI is pretty busy these days with lots of things going on. Oh, he didn't stop there we've got evidence! The government accountability office estimates that flying the FBI private jet costs at least $5,000 per hour? Yeah try closer to eleven thousand dollars an hour if it's the plane I think it is five thousand is pretty cheap

2:21:59 meaning Patel's Olympic trip could theoretically cost taxpayers at least tens of thousands of dollars. And we should note that the FBI director, for security reasons is legally mandated to use government aircraft for all travel including personal trips but they are required to reimburse taxpayers for the commercial costs of their travel But the question is why was he in Italy to begin with? The trip to Italy far from being the only time that Patel has faced accusations of using government for his personal benefit reportedly a Patels direction is even providing a separate security detail for his girlfriend, no not his wife. No! His girlfriend country music singer Alexis Wilkins who lives part time in Nashville Hold on stop stop Stop stop Is he married? No I don't think he is He has the honeypot girlfriend remember that's the one Yeah I know that he got the girlfriend but is he married? I don't think so Then why would you say not his wife? He doesn't have a wife You just put that to make it sound scurrilous

2:23:02 So he's ditched his wife and he's running off with this other woman. That's what it sounds like He's not as white if you wasn't with his wife Good catch is Girlfriend no, not his wife Not his fiance his girlfriend country music singer Alexis Wilkins who lives part-time in Nashville Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee launched an investigation last year into Patel's use of the FBI jet for private travel There was a time of course You might remember when Kash Patel seemed to have a different attitude towards the use of government resources. This is from his confirmation hearing last year And the resources of the FBI, which are funded by the American taxpayer dollars. In the seven minutes that you and I have been talking about two people have died from fentanyl overdoses one person has been shot to death in this country and three people have been raped The resources of the FBI will go to that mission set and that mission set alone because America deserves a better brand of justice and i'm gonna give it to them

2:23:59 Okay, so how many Americans died of fentanyl overdoses? How many Americans were shot to death and how many Americans were raped while Kash Patel was celebrating in that locker? Oh brother The hatred the hatred is so deep what happened to love conquers hate bad bunnies words Man oh man all right I mean, in the Netherlands the king when he was prince Prince Pils for beer. He would win the Dutch won something he'd be freaking out and throwing beer over each other and thought that was cool. Yeah no not in America now you can't celebrate anything here will not if your Republican yeah No, you can't if your anything else it doesn't matter right? Going on to screwball stories this

2:25:02 In fact, I've got a couple here. I want to play this one's the Cuba story. I have questions Yeah that is a screwball story Secretary of State Marco Rubio says US authorities are doing their own investigation into an incident early this morning This comes after Cuba says its border guards shot and killed four people and wounded six aboard a Florida registered speedboat off the Cuban coast Cuba's Interior Ministry claims the crew aboard the vessel opened fire on the guards first, who then returned fire. Your Secretary Rubio just moments ago. We have our embassy on the ground in Havana working this as we speak asking for access

2:25:41 to the people that were on those vessels. We are going to verify that information independently and reach our own conclusions." Cuban officials claim the commander of the Cuban vessel was wounded in the shooting, The ministry released a statement following the incident saying Cuba would protect its territorial waters Florida's Attorney General says he has directed the Office of Statewide Prosecution to investigate Secretary Rubio says the result of the investigation will be presented to policymakers, including the president for potential further action. Hi your questions? Well we're doing all this action against Cuba and we still have an embassy there they haven't kicked us out yeah I didn't realize that either in Havana well of course we did because that's where the Habana syndrome came from well i know about the Havana syndrome and it came from there supposedly but

2:26:35 We're taking action. We've cut them off from the oil supply, they can't refuel their jets or anything and they're having power outages and they let us keep an embassy there? This doesn't make any sense to me." I agree you would have thought that at least would have kicked our diplomats out but also... Go on. Well I was gonna say these were Cuban-Americans supposedly who went over there. I mean this has in some way it has Bay of Pigs vibe to it yeah well there's also a lot of people who are real sailboat enthusiasts they're usually armed to the teeth on these some of these boats because of piracy and the open seas in the Caribbean like Horowitz, Horowitz always is packing heat when he goes with his buddies He's going to the islands man! He's packing heat! He isn't taking no risks

2:27:26 He's got his magnum, he's got a .45, he's got an AR-15. He's got a couple of grenades...He's serious! Ask him about it and he'll tell you. Well its well known fact that people are super careful when they're armed on these boats don't kid yourself So to our last Oddball story but this one is going to be your favorite The Artemis, oh no!

2:28:11 helium pressurization system. The launch team had been targeting March for the Artemis 2 astronaut mission, humanity's first trip to the moon in decades but now it's off until at least April." Yes of course because you know we did this with a tin can 50 years ago... A tin can and some hoodies with a garbage pail on their head that's okay And we'll get there eventually. They're not even landing on the moon, they're just going to fly around it Yeah this is a fly-around A little CGI, a little AI It will be great! And unfortunately...it could be a lie, they could be misleading us but it appears that we did not have copulation in space

2:28:58 It was not the female astronaut who was pregnant. NASA is sharing the following information at the request of NASA astronaut Mike Fink On January 7th while aboard the International Space Station I experienced a medical event that required immediate attention from my incredible crewmates Thanks to their quick response and the guidance of our NASA flight surgeons, my status quickly stabilized. After further evaluation, NASA determined the safest course was an early return for Crew 11 not an emergency but a carefully coordinated plan to be able to take advantage of advanced medical imaging not available on the space station On January 15th we splashed down off the coast of San Diego after an amazing five-and-a-half month mission

2:29:43 I'm deeply grateful to my fellow Expedition 74 members, Zina Cardman, Kimia Yui, Oleg Platonov, Chris Williams, Sergey Kud-Zverchov and Sergei Mikheyev as well as the entire NASA team SpaceX and the medical professionals at Scripps Memorial Hospital, La Jolla near San Diego. Their professionalism and dedication ensured a positive outcome I'm doing very well in continuing standard post-flight reconditioning at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston space flight is an incredible privilege and sometimes it reminds us just how human we are thank you for all your support I guess your theory doesn't pan out not necessarily oh okay

2:30:27 Well, I mean a couple of things. I keep an eye on the woman and see if she has a baby. That's what you do yes? Yeah or the reason they want to bring up this cock-and-bull story which is possible it's that she had an abortion Oh goodness gracious Okay, I guess anything's possible might be a bit of a stretch we still don't know what the guy... I don't think it's a stretch Yes We haven't talked about it. I did find this report from Global News relatively complete regarding El Mencho

2:31:04 the Mexican drug cartel leader and we should probably just wrap it all up with this report and we can maybe discuss after. The operation to capture Mexico's most powerful cartel leader known as El Mencho unfolded in a small town near Guadalajara where Mexican special forces acted on a tip from an associate of one of his romantic partners In the raid that followed, the wanted drug lord was seriously wounded. He later died during an airlift This was a very effective takedown of one of the biggest leaders and it was done based on the intelligence that they conducted primarily

2:31:50 Mexico's defense minister became emotional as he honored the 25 National Guard members killed in Operation Sunday. The prosecutor's office, where El Mencho's body was reportedly taken is now under heavy guard. President Claudia Shainbaum denied direct U.S involvement in the operation but acknowledged the Americans did provide intelligence. US president Donald Trump has previously threatened military strikes inside Mexico targeting cartels and has designated El Mencho's cartel a foreign terrorist organization. It is no coincidence that the Mexican government decides to act when it is under unprecedented levels of pressure from the Trump administration to crack down on the cartels The fear now, is that violence may continue to spiral as cartel members fight for power and battle for territory There are three people who are going to compete to become the new leader of the cartel

2:32:47 and the political protection will go on. While experts warn the death of El Mencho alone will do little to disrupt Mexico's sprawling narco-empires It is a very superficial way to attack the cartels, and doesn't speak to a sort of more profound deep extraction of their roots that are so deeply embedded in Mexico Facing unprecedented violence, it's now a question of whether Mexican officials want to go deeper or if the cartels are too rich and too powerful to truly be disrupted. This was kind of interesting. First of all I think we needed to clean up Mexico for FIFA for the World Cup you know we gotta clean that place up a bit but it seems like 20% of Mexico is in some way in some shape or form employed by the cartels have you heard this?

2:33:39 Yeah, I've heard that number and other numbers and it just seems as though it's so embedded. They want to just let the cartels bite each other to the death and let them take the country over Well they seem to... you know there is rivalry once in a while but they... You know, I received different boots on the ground, I won't read em' but some people say everyone's happy get rid of these guys Other people say, you know, they come into the neighborhood like the mob You know, they take care of the kids bring candy for the kids flowers for the women. It cuts both ways and this guy was not an El Chapo kind of boasty guy he was supposedly a man of the people A man of the people no matter what The banks are gonna have some trouble got no more money to launder for awhile I think that may be from that group anyway yeah from that group

2:34:33 I don't know. Any thoughts besides the fact that we clearly were helping? Uh, I have no thoughts on it. I mean...I know the writing was a one-shot deal There's supposedly there was a couple of TikTokers online that are talking about it and I have no No You know It could be all bullcrap to me I mean I haven't nothing Nothing got nothing Well That is uh That's not a great way To get into our second donation segment you need to say something funny witty or How about playing a clip? Okay, one more. Last clip for me this is the mystery school district story The FBI conducting a search on Wednesday at the home and office of a Los Angeles school official A spokesperson for the FBI Los Angeles field office confirms that agents were at the headquarters of LA Unified School District and at the home of Superintendent Alberto Carvalho

2:35:28 A third location in Florida was also searched. It's unclear what the investigation is about, but the school district says it's cooperating with the investigation and doesn't have further information at this time Carvalho, himself an immigrant who had once overstayed his visa has been vocal about protecting students from ICE activity at schools. He's been the Los Angeles Public Schools Superintendent since 2022 Before that he oversaw Florida's largest school district for more than a decade The LA Unified School District is the nation's second-largest with more than 500 thousand students and covering more than two dozen cities

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2:44:19 And it's Sir Nerdworks who is organizing that. You need to contact him for details, sounds like an exclusive deal there Also on Saturday the NOAH agenda meetup for February at Jacks Brewery This is Columbus Ohio That'll be at noon and another Duke of San Francisco birthday bash also on Saturday 333 Connecticut Yankee in San Francisco California Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II hosting I don't know if you're planning on going John but It's crazy Steve, he does good meetups I'm just saying. And we have another Meetup on Saturday these things are popular the South Louisiana Bayou Brewhaha 4 o'clock at Freds On The River in Prairieville Louisiana Dame Mary Moon is hosting that coming up in March we have Buenos Aires Argentina look at that on the 5th

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2:45:48 Because when they make you stable, you are able. noagendameetups.com It's real easy go to the website find one near you Go to it enjoy yourself if you can't find where near you how about this start one yourself? No agenda meetups.com Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days It's like a party It is always like a party. Guaranteed these things are like a party and before we get to John's tip of the day and some dynamite end-of-show mixes, we do have an ISO to choose We always do that at the end just as a little fun thing for ourselves Usually it's man against machine but I have all humanoids for this particular ISO face off And i will start Ready? Yeah how many you got Two Go These people are crazy

2:46:51 Nice. I thought it would be actual and here's another one. You did amazing! I like that one. Well, I got some Trump too! That's funny. Yeah what you got? Let's start with incredible. You gotta tell you these guys do an incredible job yeah it's a little bit better than mine yeah okay and also got Trump talking about donating Wow what a great podcast donate wait that's AI that's pretty good no that was on the I was on the speech didn't hear it No, I did not hear that on the speech. Well then if you didn't hear that because it was right with this one which is the Freedom Award Give John and Adam a freedom award Yeah now that's a little too kooky yeah all right And then we went to The Well and got Gavin Newsom to discuss comparing his podcast to ours My podcast stinks compared to these guys

2:47:47 Hmm, it's a toss-up for me between this one... Uh. Where is it? My podcast stinks compared to these guys But I think I like this one better Wow what a great podcast! Donate! I think that's just better We want to end with donate don't we Yeah we do Every single time Hey before we get to that though It's time for John's Tip of the Day All right, this is a simplistic very simple tip that I was digging around. I saw should give this tip of the day people don't realize how important it is to have one of these things there are buck or two they're cheap

2:48:32 and they're extremely handy for writing on anything that is just a little different like a wine bottle or I use them to write information if you have a power supply, and it's two volts so many amps. I write it on the side using a, this is the tip, a silver sharpie. If you don't have a silver... Oh! I love silver sharpies. Silver sharpies are the handiest thing I mean, I first discovered them back in this floppy disk era when you could write on floppy disks with them. But they're just handy for everything because there's a lot of... Everything that people make stuff out of plastic and it is black and you can't write on it if you want to silver sharpie Do you know how many mixers? I've written stuff on with the silver Sharpie. I've lost count

2:49:19 You know, you put the... because the mixers are they never like correspond to the players and stuff. And so or they have no numbers and so I'll write down one through eight Oh yes! So that is a tip i can agree with Also handy if you have twins you can write on their forehead which one is uh Which one is which? Just a thought Uh..and what is the retail price of uh of the Silvers? I think there about 99 max You should get a six pack And the six packs are probably, you know less than it probably eight bucks or so. They're terrific product Outstanding product everybody another fabulous tip of the day get them all at no agenda fund calm tip of the day dotnet Created by Dana Brunetti Yes

2:50:11 We're done. That doesn't mean that the party stops because right after we're done, John and I start talking about what we are going to do on Sunday because we do this for you! We don not conform to the ways of this world. We do not let ourselves be captured by people who think we should say something and we don't believe in it No! We do this because we are the truth Truth i tell ya At least it's what we believe. And we've been pretty right in 18 years. Coming up next on the Noah Jenner stream, We have—ah! The latest episode of Grimerica Make sure you catch that. We have end-of-show mixes from iD Pop. We got Paul Revere and we got MVP and they are dynamite

2:50:57 So enjoy that. And we'll be back on Sunday coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas where we've got lots of good wineries come visit us and make sure you leave on time In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we still demand accountability, I am John C. Dvorak We'll be back on Sunday please join us for at least three hours of media deconstruction and remember us at knowagendadonations dot com until then adios mofos a hooey hooey and such My son Buzzkill Jr., robot

2:51:37 AI has a huge advantage. It already has humanoid movement, it tells people what to do! We are the robots. The way people are going talking in these chatbots, the brain is in the phone and you are the robot. Another DA Robot. The economic output of a large number of humanoid robots is the average performativity for the robot times the number of robots. Wow, let's listen to the calculation again! It's like Blade Runner right? You don't want human impersonation where you think your talking to a human being but it's actually a robot and he needs to be a robot. Um...you need to be able to actually clearly label that y'know..he's a robot

2:52:24 You are the robot. Robot? He was just a robot, exactly! Robot... No! No no no say it's not so. Robot that was so dumb. Now here is a little story I got to tell about three Democrats you know so well It started way back in history with H-Brot Barry O and me Joe B little honey named Abedin, just me and my honey and a fifth of gin riding across the land kicking up sand polling higher than Trump because I'm in command one lone Democrat IB all by myself without no body. No opposition since we threw out Joe the race is getting vile the gin is getting low looking for a win I ran into a guy his name is Barry O I said howdy he said

2:53:21 Now, I've got the juice. You've got the gin. You've got two choices of how you can win. It's not a tough decision as you can see. You go on your own or you can ride with me." I said, I'll ride with you if you could cover up one detail The feds are after me for what i did with my email. I hit it like this...I hit it like that..I hit it with a wiffle ball bat So we're on the trail, the feds got my mail and right about now I need a cocktail. The Queen H-Rod that is my name and i know the fly spot where they got the champagne We rode for six hours then we hit the spot And we met up with a man that the world forgot. This dude was staring like he knows who we are We took the empty spot next to him at the bar Barry O said, Yippee-yo! You know this guy? I said I didn't but that was a lie The guy says Get ready cause this is no joke My name is Joe B and you know im provoked Held out his hand and looked us in the eye He yelled Pull my finger! Let two fly

2:54:20 Customers gagged as they hit the floor. Two kids passed out while they ran for the door I'm Joe B and i get respect The presidential nominee is what I expect But you chose to shut me out of the race You ignored my seniority and threw it in my face but My roll doesn't slow, my fuel doesn't stop I pour gasoline on my corn pop Joe B rambled away Barry O snatched the coke And I started cooking a Russian hoax No agenda shift is not brought to by the following. So please V4V, no support was given by... The Artisanal Dirt Foundation Glitch & Solder The Institute for Intermediate Silence Tweed Intention The Cloud Buffer Initiative Ferment and Farment The Barndoor Collective

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