Episode 1817 · Sunday, 16 November 2025

Stunt Grenade

European leaders scramble for new military funding as Russian forces gain ground, while a high-stakes political rift between Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene upends the MAGA movement.

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European Union Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has proposed three aggressive strategies to fund Ukraine’s defense, including a reparations loan backed by frozen Russian assets. This financial escalation coincides with reports from military analyst Andrew Rasoulis that Russian forces are achieving operational success by dismantling Ukrainian energy infrastructure. The shifting momentum has prompted Germany to initiate a voluntary conscription plan for 18-year-old men to counter perceived threats from the East.

In Mexico City, Generation Z protesters breached the National Palace following the assassination of the mayor of Uruapan, leading Senator Lili Tellez to label the country a narco-state on Fox Noticias. Meanwhile, a massive corruption probe into Ukraine’s Enerhoatom has linked Zelensky associate Timur Mindich to a $100 million laundering scheme. In the United States, Donald Trump has publicly withdrawn his endorsement of Marjorie Taylor Greene, sparking theories of a scripted political rift ahead of a critical House vote on the Jeffrey Epstein files led by Congressman Thomas Massie. Additional reports highlight the first human fatality from Alpha-Gal syndrome in New Jersey and a burgeoning diabetes crisis in Pakistan.

British politician George Galloway claims the Muslim Brotherhood was a creation of British intelligence, while Donald Trump threatens the BBC with litigation to expose internal communications. The segment on suburban aesthetics explores the social risks of installing a flagpole in California. Listeners also contributed a rare 1940s letterhead from the Fort Detrick Biological Warfare Lab during a recent Albany meetup.


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CHAPTER 01 / 47 Discussion

Ukraine Financial Aid Options, European Union Strategy

European Union Commission President Ursula von der Leyen outlined three primary options for funding Ukraine's financial needs over the next two years. The strategies include using the EU budget's headroom to raise capital, establishing intergovernmental agreements among member states, or issuing a reparations loan backed by immobilized Russian assets.

ukraine· ursula von der leyen· european union· belgium· russian assets

00:00 Complain more. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday November 19th 2025 this year award winning Give Our Nation Media assassination episode 1817 This is no agenda We are smoking hot and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA region number six In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry for Northern Silicon Valley where we've noticed Ukraine is falling apart It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! I didn't expect to start there. I didn't either

00:38 I had some other schemes as my opener, but then that came to mind. Oh well... The French 24 this morning is all they were talking about and they had these attractive Ukrainian women going on about how bad the government is. Oh yeah! This is what.. And by the way? Yes? You and I are both shocked! Shocked that it's falling apart?! No, that Ukraine's corrupt! Well hold on a sec First of all, we have to understand there's nothing to worry about. Queen Ursula is going to take care of Ukraine for at least the next two years We just have to figure out which one of the three options we will use To pay for it John this is a quiz. We are now working very closely with Belgium and all the member states on options how to deliver on this commitment It's clear we will

01:29 deliver and we will cover the financial needs of Ukraine for the next two years. The discussion is now on the how, and there are three options. Here we go! Option one is to use the budget's headroom to raise money on the capital markets. Oh okay. Option 2 is to have an intergovernmental agreement that member states raise the necessary capital by themselves And option three is to have a reparations loan. This is based on immobilized Russian assets. I pick number three, what do you pick? What do you think is the best one there? Steal it from the people or steal it from the Russians? Well they want to steal it from the Russians but they know that they're trading on thin ice so they will steal it from the people

CHAPTER 02 / 47 Discussion

Andrew Rasoulis, Russian Military Progress in Ukraine

Military analyst Andrew Rasoulis reported that Russia is achieving operational-level success through determined attritional warfare, specifically targeting Ukrainian energy infrastructure as winter approaches. The analysis suggests Ukraine may be forced into significant territorial concessions, potentially losing 20% of its land, as the military momentum shifts toward Russian forces.

andrew rasoulis· russia· ukraine· war of attrition· zelensky

02:15 Oh, you think they'll steal it from the people? Yeah. Because they can get away with that. Stealing from the Russians is not going to work out long term and they know it. The other thing is the Ukraine's way... Why would you give...? They're already stealing the money we're giving them already! Are you gonna give him more money?! That's a solution to the problem I have a little update from my boy Andrew Rasoulis Yeah, yeah he's got us the update. You want to do that now or at the end of any presentation? Because he is the best! Well these are pretty short actually He was on CBC... you know he is dressing a suit now. He used to be kind of cash

02:54 I've never seen him. Oh, well he used to be cash in a sweater and now he's uh... Now somebody clued him in? I think so okay So the so first of all it appears Russia is winning The Russians have managed through very determined attritional warfare over months now And they've been working on Park Forrest that this main hub And they have been wearing down the Ukrainians, again war of attrition. They're now about to achieve what will be an operational level success which means a significant success more than tactical less than strategic but significant on the battlefield

03:33 I love it. The momentum of Russia's advance westward next time in a meeting, you know That's a really good idea Bob that is more than strategic less than tactical. Um, I'm really digging that I think you're onto something here Well, of course the big thing now is as winter draws which means it'll soon be the end of the fighting season We always have to remember we have fighting seasons and it's about to draw do close We all just go man. And when I gonna fight right now the season's over And that is the energy attacks. to the energy, the gas. That is the heating source for a lot of Ukrainian cities like in Kiev which are centrally controlled if you take out one of these generators that put hot air or hot water throughout the heating systems in town everything goes down they all get cold and much harder to fix

04:39 So what the Russians are doing is wearing down the morale of the Ukrainian people so that then they try to pressure the Ukrainian government to come to terms with Russia, not just saying a ceasefire but a ceasefire that also gives the Russians what they want in terms of Ukrainian neutrality no NATO and regime change possibly. This does not sound good for Vladimir and of course Add to that the corruption and well, I don't know. Well politically it certainly destabilizes the Zelensky government. I don't think it's a strategic defeat for him yet he surviving He is at war and there are those who say well It's the best we've got you know And the Lithuanian minister of government the other day said this is a terrible event But this is all we've got so we gotta keep going and this is that kind of attitude but

05:32 Yes, the point is that's just one attitude. There are other people on the ground in Ukraine those who are supposed to go off and fight where a lot of them are trying not to go off and fight And when the energy grid is being hit and they're trying to rebuild it yet there was about 15% scam taking place or was taking place with profiteering from the efforts to rebuild this energy grid People were saying what's this all about? What we fighting about? People were just putting money into their pockets maybe Ukraine as a Western model isn't so great and therefore we shouldn't really be fighting and putting our lives on the risk. Yeah, really? What are we doing?! And the results our friend Andrew Rasoulis believes will be more concessions in the peace talks

06:17 What we've always said a an armistice or a ceasefire and there never will be actual peace. I think Ukraine will give major concessions It's already gonna lose 20% of its territory the Ukrainians have recognized that they understand They cannot retake the land that Russia currently occupies through military force they refer to diplomatic solutions That's already a concession The question is additional concession And that's why politically there is no room for negotiations at present. The Russians are prevailing, I prefer that term rather than winning they're prevailing and they see that if we call it further military action They will have further gains and one of their key objectives right now is to take before Oblast the full administrative boundaries

07:04 They control large parts, but not everything. And they will continue to push until they get that because Ukrainians are refusing to cede it. So that will be taken by military force And then the question is will a ceasefire come into place at that point because it's unlikely that Political settlement anywhere near what the Russians are demanding of Ukrainians will come out unless Ukrainians are completely broken Yes, cease-fire in a very hard cold piece is more likely to come there. It is there it is and Of course we need to use this war to figure out jobs for people

CHAPTER 03 / 47 Discussion

Germany Military Expansion, Voluntary Conscription Plan

Germany has agreed to a new military plan to increase personnel numbers in response to perceived Russian threats and concerns over the reliability of the United States under a potential Trump administration. The plan involves mandatory questionnaires for 18-year-old men to encourage voluntary service, though officials noted that mandatory conscription remains an option if voluntary participation is insufficient.

germany· military· conscription· cold war· trump administration

07:45 And Germany, which has lost everything. The economic production motor of the EU is dead thanks to no Russian energy cheap Russian energy So what do we do? I know, let's build up our military and let's tell the kids they can join voluntarily for now. Faced with growing Russian threats and an unreliable US partner under the Trump administration Germany has agreed to a new military plan to boost its numbers There is no reason for concern or fear because The lesson is clear. Nothing to be concerned about, children! The more capable our armed forces are of deterrence and defense through armament training and personnel the less likely we are to become a party of conflict And that serves everyone That is the lesson we learned from the Cold War Okay so more...

08:35 More people in military, the more peaceful it is. OK check. The coalition government will focus on voluntary service by making it more attractive to young people. Starting next year all 18-year old men will have to fill in a questionnaire on whether they would want to serve and undergo a medical test There will be other financial incentives as well to encourage people to join the military. But the agreement has not been without its hurdles, particularly over questions regarding mandatory service. While there are no plans to reinstate conscription it's not off the table We want to inspire as many young people as possible to serve their country If voluntary participation ultimately proves insufficient there will also need to be a mandatory obligation aiming for a conscription system that

CHAPTER 04 / 47 Discussion

Ukraine Energy Sector Corruption, Timur Mindich Investigation

A 15-month investigation involving 1,000 hours of wiretaps revealed a massive corruption scheme within Ukraine's state nuclear energy company, Enerhoatom. Alleged participants, including Zelensky associate Timur Mindich, are accused of laundering $100 million through manipulated contracts, leading to the resignation of two government ministers.

ukraine· zelensky· timur mindich· enerhoatom· corruption

09:20 as many individuals as necessary to ensure our defense capabilities. I'm not sure why you missed that. Yeah, but we still need to talk about Ukraine and have a couple clips Oh well i don't look at your clips so how could I know? Well I tried to...I mentioned it earlier and you just ignored me The Ukraine corruption is the clip So this is you being a dick to me where I usually become mean No no no!

09:58 No, you could have said... When you said the Versulus Cup I said well I can play something first and then you went on to discuss it. You didn't say that! You said do you want to do that at the end of something? That's what you said Yeah, the end of the clip I wanted to play which was the Ukrainian corruption clip Oh well but why don't you just say that Because you steamrolled me, that's why Ah, you are the worst worst partner in 18 years ever I didn't steamroll you I wanna hear-I want input from the ladies Corruption probe in Ukraine says associates of President Zelensky plotted to skim millions from the country's energy sector. And PRs Joanna Kikisis has more. This probe is extensive, it took 15 months used about 1,000 hours of wiretaps there were seven alleged participants including Timur Mindich

10:48 He's a close business associate of Zelensky's. Investigators say this group manipulated contracts at Enerhoatom, which is Ukraine's state nuclear energy company and they got kickbacks laundering roughly $100 million dollars The scandal has forced the resignation of two ministers in Zelensky government so far but Zelensky has not been implicated in this probe and he is calling for the prosecution those accused of committing crimes Yeah we played those clips on Thursday Well that just played yesterday. We've seen what we played the book okay sorry for your breaking news and what is the other Ukraine clip you have? You said clips... No, we're just gonna stay with that I'm the point I wanted to make

CHAPTER 05 / 47 Discussion

Volodymyr Zelensky Political Future, Ousting Predictions

Speculation regarding President Volodymyr Zelensky's political longevity suggests he may face a vote of no confidence or arrest within two months due to escalating corruption scandals. While some argue the European Union views him as a necessary figurehead, others believe his decision to suspend elections and crack down on media has made his position untenable.

volodymyr zelensky· ukraine· european union· corruption· elections

11:30 which is kind of lost in the shuffle here, is that if we haven't noticed Zelensky killed all you know besides putting the kibosh on the religion and everything else and the media and then stopping elections he'd be out scot-free if he had allowed elections in the regular election cycle and got voted out and moved to the ten houses or whatever the hell is accumulated, and just gotten out of the country. It's beyond me why he still there? He's going to end up dead! No I don't think so. I think that EU wants him alive. He is a perfect little showbiz bunny for them And they can do all this other stuff like steal money from people To fund him

12:16 Well, the EU does want him alive but that doesn't mean he's dead. This corruption can get out of control so quickly that you'd get caught up in it there is no way the EU can support it. Hold on! Corruption in Ukraine? Hello last 50 years It's always been corrupt. Always! But it's always been, it's like the Burisma material... Oh man. It's always been corrupt but it always gets swept under the rug but if this situation that is occurring now is getting out of control they won't be able to stop it No! Zelensky is going to get caught up in it he's done no no what do you give me a time frame for him being done

12:59 There's no heir apparent. Too much! You heard it first, podcast enthusiasts I don't think so...I think he is going to stick around They love the guy Not saying that they don't like him Yeah but who is gonna kill him? It's not going to be killed, he is going to be arrested. He is going to be kicked out There is gonna be a vote A non-confidence vote in the government and he is gonna be ousted one way or the other And within two months Maybe I don't think so I think they'll drag you heard that first. Yes, I'd cast audience podcast enthusiasts is the term enthusiast What is it pod verse? podcasts enthusiasts Yes, all right now. I'm sorry. I did not realize I did not understand what you said

13:50 Otherwise, I of course would have played your clip first. You always have priority with me No did my clips always lead to the conclusion clip when you have Versoulis? He should be the last guy we play Well you shouldn't have asked that as a question then you so said no My clip first then it would have been easy okay understand yeah, I can do that remember. I don't listen to your clips No, but you look at them. But I... You know the Ukraine was stuck between Zed riots Mexico and UK Nexus which caught my eye obviously. Oh the UK Nexus is good yeah Well i'm gonna leave it up to you where you want to go because i'm afraid now Well if you were still talking about arming the poor German kids who are going to be without work anyway That was it that's all I had The only other thing I have

CHAPTER 06 / 47 Discussion

Canada Eurovision Participation, Mark Carney Proposal

Mark Carney has proposed that the CBC explore Canadian participation in the European Song Contest, following the precedent set by Australia. The discussion highlights past Canadian winners like Celine Dion, who represented Switzerland, and debates the merits of non-European nations joining the traditionally regional spectacle.

canada· eurovision· mark carney· celine dion· cbc

14:38 Is the Eurovision Song Contest news? Oh, that's not coming around again is it. I thought we just did that like a couple weeks ago It's worse! Of the many headlines to come out of the federal budget today one you may have missed has to do with Canada and Eurovision Mark Carney wants CBC to explore getting the country to participate in the European song contest Yeah now Canada is going to participate in Eurovison In the song contest Wait then this is gonna cost them money If they win, I mean if they don't win that doesn't cost a lot of just to send some schlub over there with the bad three minute song. But I think what... well if you're interested I'll play it. Carney has got to be... You should. Carney is like we have to remember that Carney was the head of the Bank of England He's he's a Nexus guy. So he is a Brit? Yes yes he is! So he isn't even Canadian? Ah this is a good point now The British are famous for losing

15:37 They're famous. It's a national pastime to laugh about the Eurovision Song Contest and see if Britain will come in, if England... UK I should say! If they will come in last again So maybe this is Carnie trying to say well you know what? It was just you guys. Let's move Canada into that spot of perpetual loser? Well if you listen to this professor who is about the talk about it, we have had some actual Canadians win just not representing Canada On test I guess beyond Europe joining us now as journalist and Eurovision expert Karen Fricker she is also an adjunct professor at Brockport Yes! And they could've called me for that Professor

16:19 from Toronto. So the concept of Canada's participation in Eurovision apparently is nothing new, though new to me. What did you think of the Prime Minister pitching this? I was extremely surprised and kind of excited as a Canada-based Eurovision lover. Of course this is a tantalizing proposition. Tantalizing! A contest based in Europe run by the European Broadcasting Union. But it's not unprecedented for a non-European country to compete, Australia has been competing for the past 10 years. Yeah they're in Europe! So there is an angle. So let's back up for a sec... What drew you into this? How are you a Canadian who is so... Why am I doing this bit with you?! ...excited by the Eurovision contest? Yes.

17:07 I did my PhD in Ireland and everybody knows Eurovision there. It's an absolute household name thing, and as somebody who loves pop music and spectacle, I just couldn't believe that I didn't know anything about it. And so I've been researching it for over 25 years Well, I mean if you say Eurovision to me the first thing that I would think of is ABBA and Waterloo so music and spectacle certainly are associated in my mind with it. Um...I don't know that I can name a lot of other winners but doesn't matter. Come on! So... Well I can help you Ian. Yep? Celine Dion one yes. Ah yes. Representing Switzerland I think right?

17:43 Exactly, but there's Canadian precedent here. Yes! You see if only... Celine Dion is from Switzerland? No she's Canadian but she represented Switzerland. That's a scam! Yes of course it is! Well they put the Beatles up there you know. Yeah they're representing Berkeley. Are you forgetting when Madonna was in it? Didn't Madonna did she just perform or was it...? They're putting all kinds.... It's kind of like when we send our best basketball guys to the Olympics Like, oh yeah. Yeah this is a... No it's just a recent phenomenon I should admit. At least 10 years maybe more? Maybe 12 years? Yeah but traditionally we played fair. Okay We did! We always sent the college kids. You know we used to- college kids used to be amateurs

18:34 Yeah, well... And so the Olympics were supposed to be for amateurs not people who got paid to do that job. What was this? So they've corrupted that first they corrupted the Olympics with professional athletes and now they're corrupting college sports by paying in the college kids which is a deserve because I bring in large audiences and And I've always advocated for it. But let's be, don't kid ourselves there are some people that make more money playing college football than they will when they're professionals So the dream team the NBA professionals competed in the Olympics was 1992 That's not just recent It is to me Most of my life it was amateurs Right but the Zeds who listened to our show weren't even born then

CHAPTER 07 / 47 Discussion

Mexico City Z-Riots, Claudia Sheinbaum Protests

Violent anti-government protests led by Generation Z erupted in Mexico City following the assassination of the mayor of Uruapan, who had taken a hardline stance against drug cartels. Protesters breached police barricades at the National Palace, accusing President Claudia Sheinbaum's administration of maintaining a pact with narco-traffickers.

mexico city· claudia sheinbaum· generation z· uruapan· eder peralta

19:20 So that's... The Zeds. Yes, the Zeds! I love the new Zeds this whole Mexico thing is fantastic This is a... Mimi called me about this talking about the zeds in Mexico but she didn't.. The way that she was given the report which I think was on their networks they didn't mention it was a part of the ZED phenomenon and I had to explain that she knows that because she listens to the show It's Zeds. And is it the CIA running? I mean... Definitely! No, okay. I'm not going to argue that for sure because I'm convinced it's the CIA too because that's why but they're doing it selectively and so they're going after Mexico because they're not cooperating with us Yeah So maybe Trump is you know Yes yes keep going this is part of the North Sea Nexus This is cutting off the British drug trade into our country through Mexico

20:14 So here we go with the Zed Riots Mexico 1. Now we turn to Mexico City where protests this afternoon turned violent they were organized by young people generation z, generation z, generation z who say they're speaking out against a narco government these are the largest anti-government protests since president claudia shamebaum took office more than a year ago protesters have broken through a police barricade and police have thrown tear gas and stun grenades at them. I spoke with NPR's Eder Peralta who is in Mexico City near the protest crowds. Eder, we can hear you out there on the streets what is it that we're hearing that your seeing? I mean look this protests started peaceful through the center of downtown and now it has reached the Zocalo which is Mexico City's main square and it has turned violent to the government had

21:04 put large metal barricades to try and block protesters from reaching the presidential palace. And protesters have now torn through the metal barricades, and they are trying to get through riot police. Riot police are firing tear gas, and they're firing stunt grenades. Stunt? Did he say stunt? Yeah, when you get one hit you do a backflip everybody firing tear gas and they're firing Stunt grenades and this crowd is not leaving. They say they're looking for change in this country They say that they want This government to take their suffering seriously they say they want the the pact that they say exists between the narcos and the government

21:54 end it today and that's what they're here for. And they say they're not leaving until they get that." Yes, what do we want? We want change! Okay... I'm gonna ask you a question in advance of the rest of these clips there's only two more um What are they doing to get-what has somebody discovered in one of the agencies that can get this to happen. In other words, what I'm looking for is there a psychological trigger or is there something you can do to get the entire generation of Zeds? Yes! To get worked up riled-up and out there throwing rocks Why don't you play your clips and then I'll answer that with my clips You actually okay good all right think I can answer it yes

22:41 Because it's fascinating to me because there has to be something. It is very easy. Yeah, no it's very simple. It really is. Okay here we go clip two. Ader what prompted these protests? You know what happened here is a small town mayor was murdered at the beginning of November and this mayor he was the mayor of Uruapan Michoacan and he had taken a full frontal approach to fighting organized crime in his city. And what he said is, you know we're going to shoot first and ask questions later and he would get on helicopters and order his police to shoot at narco traffickers or what he said were narco traffickers. Wow! Yeah. On November 1st on Day of the Dead he was shot dead in the middle of his town in front

23:30 everyone in front of a large crowd and protests erupted almost immediately in his town. They were asking for justice, they were asking for those responsible to be held accountable and now the protests have spread to Mexico City. And this is remarkable Sasha because...and what's remarkable about it is that we just haven't seen in recent memory an anti-organized crime protests and right now I mean I'm in the middle square and they're calling for the president's resignation and they're saying you know that this is a narco government just colluded with the Narcos and they say their done with that. And they want to take a much stronger stance against organized crime in this country yeah what outfit is this by the way? Is it NPR

24:20 Yeah. Okay, yeah once in a while they do good work although you know there's still no analysis which is my complaint which you will address as we... this is the last clip. And Eder how is the government of Mexico reacting to all that? Well they're saying that this was a march organized by the opposition I mean to be honest I've covered many marches in this country where they do tend to bust people in This is not that. This is a cross-section of Mexican society, from the upper class to the lower class, from old through young and so this seems like President Claudia Sheinbaum's first real test as president and she's extremely popular her popularity for approval rating is at 70% So this is an odd thing that we're seeing here in Mexico

25:14 That is NPR's Eder Peralta reporting from Mexico City. Eder, thank you for covering this and please be safe. Thank you Sasha! Please be safe... I like the odd thing that was good that was yes no this was a noteworthy part which is in the third clip where he goes You know, I've seen these things before. This is nothing like that this is totally different it's alien the woman Shine Bomb is really popular but now everyone hates her. He was befuddled and I would guess clueless as to the fact that this is manufactured somehow and he's not even noticing that which is a problem we have with the media Yes well thats why you have to go Al Jazeera

CHAPTER 08 / 47 Discussion

Discord Organization, Pirate Flag Symbolism in Protests

Protest movements in Mexico, Nepal, and Morocco are reportedly utilizing Discord for organization and adopting a specific pirate emblem flag as a symbol of Generation Z defiance. President Claudia Sheinbaum claimed these mobilizations are political operations financed from abroad rather than organic youth movements.

discord· pirate flag· generation z· carlos manso· mexico

25:56 which is, yes Al Jazeera had a pretty good report. How do you motivate Gen Z to do anything? Well first of all you use Discord I could only find Spanish reports with the Discord in it so i can't play any of that but there were several Spanish news reports mentioning that these were organized on Discord So there's that. The second thing, you got to hand out cool flags because they were manufactured brand new beautifully made pirate flags like skull and crossbone flags. Oh is it that pirate flag that I discussed before? Yes the pirate...it's the skull and crossbones. The one with it with the sombrero? No there was no...there's no sombrero on it. That's interesting But they are but they are beautiful made in China flags

26:46 As a part of the meme for this mayor, you hand out hats. So when you've got Discord, you got hats... You've got flags... This is ridiculously probably completely accurate but ridiculously simplistic approach to getting people riled up Here's the report Flags Hats FED UP WITH CORRUPTION AND VIOLENCE OF DRUG CARTELS demonstrators tore down metal walls protecting the National Palace. They blame President Claudia Sheinbaum for not doing enough to bring justice and investigate the assassinations of at least 10 politicians since she took office one year ago. Protesters are demanding that the police focus on protecting them from criminal networks rather than cracking down on demonstrations that call for meaningful change

27:36 Some carried the Generation Z pirate emblem flag used by young protesters in Nepal, Morocco and Peru. Others wore straw hats a symbol of Carlos Manso, the mayor of the western city of Uruapan gunned down two weeks ago yet another victim of drug cartels ahead of the march President Shane Baum said the protests are a strategy paid by foreigners linked to right-wing groups There may be young people who disagree with us, and that's part of democracy. But it is very important to know how this mobilisation was orchestrated. There is evidence that many of the promoters have nothing to do with Generation Z but rather that this a political operation even financed from abroad. Hello! They're just saying it now...

CHAPTER 09 / 47 Discussion

Mexico Narco-State Allegations, Senator Lili Tellez

Mexican Senator Lili Tellez appeared on Fox Noticias to label Mexico a narco-state, alleging an alliance between the Morena party and criminal cartels. Tellez argued that President Sheinbaum opposes U.S. intervention because the cartels financed the current government's rise to power, leading to a crisis in fentanyl trafficking and institutional decay.

lili tellez· mexico· claudia sheinbaum· fentanyl· fox noticias

28:26 Now, the way I view this under the lens of the North Sea Nexus is this is where all of the fentanyl was coming from. It's a huge narco state obviously Shinebomb doesn't want to cooperate and we have to remember $800 million was laundered through HSBC, a British bank even though it's the Hong Kong Shanghai... what is it? What's the B in the N? It'd be C. Well but that is you know it's basically a British Bank which was laundered through them during the Obama years, and that was a big scandal. Which pay your fines okay we're fine we'll just keep on moving so this is part of shutting down the British drug trade money cat and this is the big money through Mexico completely explained by Mexican Senator Lili Tellez tell a tell a tell as to lay

29:25 who went on Fox, much to her peril and explained exactly what's going on. This is the intro. The president of Mexico is furious she's calling Mexican Senator Lili Tejas a traitor for coming on Fox Noticias with me a few days ago and saying this. The help from the United States to fight the cartels in Mexico is absolutely welcome how the majority of Mexicans feel. The only ones who don't like that President Trump is sending help and trying to support Mexicans against the cartels are the narco politicians, that includes President Scheinbaum. Mexican president Claudia Scheinbaum responding saying quote it's not a minor issue that he senator gave an interview to a foreign media outlet calling for intervention here to discuss is that Mexican Senator Lily Tejas. Senator Teja welcome to Fox Noticias I'm just gonna get right to

30:18 Is Mexico a narco state? Yes it is. And we all Mexicans know about it and Mexicans are afraid of the alliance between the Mexican government and the cartels that have infested our nation So very brave... This new to, this new to the Mexicans this idea No not to the Mexicans but you hear she's saying We welcome the support I think this IS the support coming from us, stirring all of this up. And here's the rest of the interview. Go ahead just quickly I went to do a search on that Mexican riots and they're using the flag with little straw hat on it Oh they are? The only one I saw in that report was the skull and crossbones Well its skull and cross bones but its got a little straw hat on top as a manga character Can you explain this a line

31:12 I didn't see, that was not what i saw in the... I'm just looking at the photos. Okay Can you explain this alliance between the president her party, the Morena party and the cartels? Yes, the party has financed, has given, the cartel's have given so much money to these politicians narco-politicians of morena to get into office to get power So they protect, the Mexican government protects the cartels. That is why President Shane Bowne doesn't want the strong American leadership to help Mexico defeat the cartels and also Shane Bowne doesn't want the rest of the world to know what is happening here in Mexico. We are on the steps to be the next Venezuela

32:05 She's aligned with Venezuela as dictator, with Cuba. And we are losing our country. They have destroyed our republican institutions, the democratic state and we must I think we all Mexicans want and welcome the support of the United States to assist Mexican people against the cartels that have us all in this crisis with the trafficking fentanyl and migrants. Exactly, yeah! We're not messing around now

CHAPTER 10 / 47 Discussion

Flagpole Etiquette, Suburban Aesthetics Tangent

A brief discussion regarding the social perception of owning a flagpole in a suburban neighborhood. One participant expresses concern that installing a flagpole in a California suburb might appear pretentious, while the other suggests using a ham radio antenna as a makeshift alternative.

flagpole· california· suburbs· pirate flag· ham antenna

32:44 I guess we got fed up. And remember it was Rubio who said, no was it? Witkoff who said oh yeah no we're taking care of stuff look what we're doing stuff in Morocco and Morocco would we have Gen Zed. Gen Zed discourse flags march by the way just as an aside We have a gen zetters out there and I guess there's you know, this is the I don't know where you can get one of these but I need One of the pirate flags with the little straw hat. Oh for my collection III need one too. I will fly it I have a flagpole. I will fly about Fly it oh course would be fun Yeah, I'll fly it no problem See what you've done Is you up D Annie to make it so somebody's gonna send you the flag instead of me? And I'm the one that always solicits free stuff

33:36 You're getting the clue. That was good, I'll give you 10 points for that trick. Before I forget... I'll fly it! Okay well what am I gonna say? I kinda can't top that. Don't you have a flagpole?! No, I don't have a flag. What is that? Why is that so funny? I'm in this little town and it's the suburbs and then I have a flagpole like a total douchebag are you kidding me? I am in California! You don't have a ham antenna you can use as a flag pole? Flag pole... Since we're on free stuff thank you to Trevor Lohman PhD he's the real deal Trevor Lohman

CHAPTER 11 / 47 Discussion

Trevor Lohman, Book Blurb Philosophy

Author Trevor Lohman received endorsements for his books "God's Eye View" and "Shroud Pilled" from the podcast hosts. The segment explores the philosophy of providing book blurbs, referencing Alan Watts' generous approach to endorsements and the modern use of AI tools like ChatGPT to generate synopses for forwards and reviews.

trevor lohman· john brockman· alan watts· chatgpt· book endorsements

34:13 and he has published two books. One is God's Eye View, and right there on the cover is a perfect star that says read this book! John C. Dvorak host of No Agenda Show host of DH Unplugged and then he sends me his new book Shroud Pilled And right there at the top, not even on the back cover. On the front cover? Yeah right in the front that's where you want it. It's not one of those blurbs in the back which is for weenies A must-read book! Adam Curry host of The No Agenda Show inventor of podcasting I mean... You will run and read this book when you see that endorsement. It's like oh that guy! So your getting a clue

34:58 It's taken me a little bit, but I'm catching on to it. Well, I've said this before...I don't want to reiterate this anecdote but I will With my former book agent John Brockman—I worked for him too—but he was a good friend of mine and still is He told me that Alan Watts the very famous Zen Buddhist writer Alan Watts Everyone who is into Buddhism knows this guy He told Brockman once, he says anyone who asks me for a blurb I'll just do it. He says because what never does you any harm it's just nothing but good vibes and it's great thing to do so I blurb everything I can and I'll do forwards too

35:43 I run into people every so often and they say, can you give me a blurb for this? And now I don't have time to read it. You know what just do it! No no what you do now these days is you say yeah could you send me the manuscript Well you get the PDF from most books nowadays Yeah right send me the manuscript What do you do flopping into chat GPT give me a little synopsis write me a blurb Bob's your uncle. The blurb is always going to be, read this book. I mean Chad GPT is gonna write too much it'll be too long! Well if you're doing a forward... You said you did forwards? Oh forward oh god yeah. Forward. You don't want have to read the book for a forward just put into Chad GPT. Yeah that's not a bad idea then you can edit it back. No I'm with you on this. From the rest of your life you'll be doing these blurbs What are supposed to say is you have snatched the pebbles from my hand grasshopper

36:36 It is time for you to leave. Go on your own journey." You can go do your thing, you finally got a clue! So it's like... and it's beyond me why people just don't, anyone with any notoriety doesn't adopt this philosophy. Yeah? It just makes nothing but sense. And yeah I- But these are good books or obviously good books that they wouldn't have our names on them. Well I've read the one that your name is on that's the funny thing actually read that book You're the one endorsing it. I haven't read the new one, but i did endorse it. I think he said can I just put something on the cover so you go for it? So that's a little...you have to know. Oh! The last tip this is the end tip

37:20 You do have to write the blurb somehow. Just say something, and most of them are stocked and they can be very generalized This is one of the most important books I think I've read in my life How about this? If it wasn't for this book, I wouldn't blah blah blah I wouldn't have married my wife Stuff like that A page turner from beginning to end Excellent! You're already on your own How about this...I couldn't put it down Yeah, perfect. Send me your books people! I am now the blurb man. I went from podfather to blurb man exactly so it's not a bad policy So now just sticking with the North Sea Nexus because things are popping up left and right George Galloway Now he was a politician wasn't he at one point? In England yeah

CHAPTER 12 / 47 Discussion

George Galloway, Muslim Brotherhood Origins

British politician George Galloway claimed on his YouTube channel that British intelligence invented and nurtured the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt during the 1950s to undermine Arab nationalist leader Gamal Abdel Nasser. The discussion links this to historical claims regarding the United States' role in founding Al-Qaeda to harass Russian forces in Afghanistan.

george galloway· muslim brotherhood· egypt· mi6· osama bin laden

38:14 Yeah, he was a politician. No I thought he was a writer for the Guardian or something He's just a left-wing nutjob! I don't know if you ever got into Parliament? Well we're gonna find out aren't we? Hold on a second... Can I be of assistance? Yes. Oh, is this your new girl?! No! Leader of the Workers' Party of Britain He was a member of the Labour Party from 87 to 2010 he served as Member of Parliament Hello! Okay... Politician Now... now podcaster Not- he's not even a pod- he's a YouTuber It's even a little bit lower than podcaster I think so Here's what he said on his recent show Indeed this has long and in glorious history

39:01 The British invented it, as in so much else. We helped found and nourished, nurtured the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt in the early 1950s so that we could use them against the Arab nationalist leader Gamal Abdel Nasser – President Nasser. We invented the Muslim Brotherhood! It was an invention in London And it was its first outing, though not its last. Was to undermine the pan-Arabic message of the Nasserists and well we've fallen out with the Muslim Brotherhood from time to time but

39:50 Occasionally they can still be useful to each other if you get my drift. Exactly! Yeah, we found it the United States founded Al Qaeda during Afghanistan just to harass the Russians yes it was purposefully to her because Russia was turning Afghanistan into a modern modern Western country. They had the women who wore dresses, they were all pretty... No can't have that! They made the women pretty! The Russians of all people the Russians may have you seen the Russian women? They're gorgeous! They made the Afghani womens pretty

40:28 So you end up with a, you know that going in that direction. No we can't have that! But you remember this bin Laden character who's the CIA asset of some sort probably still alive for all I know Claimed that he had, by the way they always claimed he had a dialysis machine with him. There's no evidence of this how come when they shot him in that compound supposedly shot and then burned him? No dialysis machine! Where is the dialysis machine?! Well speaking of that time which was Obama I mean he was also the big friend to the Muslim Brotherhood

CHAPTER 13 / 47 Discussion

Trump GB News Interview, BBC Litigation

Donald Trump participated in a fawning interview with GB News where he discussed potential litigation against the BBC for egregious reporting. Trump emphasized that the goal of such a lawsuit would be to reach the discovery phase to uncover internal communications and determine how often the organization has targeted individuals.

donald trump· gb news· bbc· discovery· libel laws

41:06 Don't you remember? Obama. Yes! Yeah, he was like... Didn't he go to Egypt and apologize basically to the Muslim Brotherhood? Sorry we suck, we're Americans. Maybe I remember him going to Egypt and apologizing He went on a apology tour of the world And he's bowed down to everybody Basically kowtowing Now i'm rethinking my CIA stance on him Thinking that he was much more of a British agent Which would make sense because they want to wreck our country. Yeah, they want to wreck our country and a pretty good job I'd say during the Obama years now another attack vector is of course this ongoing BBC gambit

41:50 And Trump did an interview with GBN, which is the most fawning interview I've ever seen. The sycophantic actually. Who's GBN? Yeah that's the right wing cable news outfit now in the UK. Oh it's nothing like... GB News. Okay. They're like our Fox News. It's GBN over there And so the woman interviews and she's like, I love what you've done to DC. This is...I wish you could be King of England You could fix our country But then oh okay? I get it yeah Trump said something interesting about this So he's mounting a lawsuit we think We don't know but here's what he said about it How will you push it because they haven't offered as our understanding is they've offered no money whatsoever They've apologized

42:44 in a letter, but they haven't offered you a penny in compensation. There was this figure of $1 billion that you may be pursuing? I think I have an obligation to do it I'm not looking to get into losses, but i think you have an obligation to do it. This was so egregious if you don't do it you don't stop it from happening again with other people. I think you probably have an obligation. I'd like to find out why they did it, you know? So bad who thinks like this and And I wonder if they've done it, we'll find this out. You know the nice part about litigation is we'll find out how many times have they done it to other people? Maybe they did it to me quite a bit." What he's talking about here is discovery

43:26 That's what he is talking about. The fun thing about litigation... Yeah, that why it never gets there. No but he can sue BBC America they're US armed. He can sue BBC UK too and we can do that because there are laws in the UK or the liable laws in the UK really onerous compared to ours. Ours, the standard is very difficult compared to the UK. The UK you can sue left and right I think they're trying to get to discovery I agree with that but I don't...I think they'll just settle in to bus around with it I mean I don't know how they're gonna get out of this. If their smart if there's smart they will settle but they keep saying oh no we're not going to pay a dime to that guy and this comes

44:10 Where the I don't can find any clips of it except they did an internal BBC video interview with Davies after he resigned, you know where he said well He wasn't a bad actor though. It's that woman who was running the whole thing right? She came from NBC yes she was not in the internal video and What's happening right now there in the middle of what they call the charter process And this happens periodically where they have to go back and say, OK. British people we need this much money in your license fee and here's that so they have this big process and documents. And this comes right which is probably the timing of it besides the fact that The Telegraph was just bought by a Trump buddy his money at least

CHAPTER 14 / 47 Discussion

BBC World Service, Hypnotic Media Effects

A personal anecdote describes falling asleep while monitoring the BBC World Service, leading to a humorous discussion about the "hypnotic" and "dull" nature of British state media. The experience is jokingly compared to MKUltra-style mind control due to the repetitive and monotonous delivery of news regarding Donald Trump.

bbc world service· mkultra· sleep· media analysis· drone

45:02 through Qatar, which I'm sorry Abu Dhabi. You know to hit them right as they're going through this charter now everyone's all whoa the BBC is corrupt. This bias really? Yeah, I have to give you a an admission here which may be affecting my analysis and my personality today So I recorded the BBC World Service, but I record about two hours of it and then I go and get clips. But the clips are very different to BBC World Service in the BBC presentations generally on audio are extremely dull

45:45 And they're hard to clip. I do have some clips today, but I'm going through it about one half hour into it. Once in a while I do fall asleep at the computer... Okay? But these guys, they drone on and on and on. Oh, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump! And I conked out… And you just kept on recording No, it wasn't recording. They were just playing back I was looking for clips. I pre-recorded the clip Oh you conked out? I had about an hour and a half recorded And i'm going through the recording It's easier to do it that way Yeah For me And so I conked out...and I woke up still going yak yak yak And then Trump blah blah blah And then I look up Hour! I was out for an hour

46:38 This was this morning. No, it's last night the BBC had knocked me out Literally put me to sleep because it's so boring and it drones I want people to modulation in the voices It's just And I was out for a complaint up the clock is that oh, it's only like 10-15 wait a minute That's not 10 15. That's 11 15 and And I said, oh my god. I've been out for an hour! I don't know what they told me but I have to tell you...I didn't go back to check but subconsciously now I'm in...I've got a bunch of bad information in my head

47:17 Oh, you've been corrupted. I understand yes they've mind-controlled you MKUltra'd? Yeah! Okay well then that's... Hour! So alright so then... Hour of hypnosis basically I didn't realize but the show is hypnotic. You're forgiven then for your attitude okay no problem yeah it'll probably take a couple weeks to get over it We have to deprogram John everybody Well how about I lead you into your BBS I'm looking at your list here Just a factual overview because I'm thinking this could be massive theater.

CHAPTER 15 / 47 Discussion

UN Special Rapporteur, Terrorism Definitions

Ben Saul, the UN Special Rapporteur on Counter-Terrorism, discussed the legal complexities of defining terrorism versus freedom fighting, citing Nelson Mandela as a historical example. The segment examines whether military strikes on drug-smuggling boats constitute acts of war or extrajudicial killings under international humanitarian law.

ben saul· united nations· terrorism· nelson mandela· international law

47:56 Between Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene? I really have the Marjorie Taylor Greene stuff, but i want to play the UK Nexus. I think first because we're still talking about that okay all right and then we'll get to Marjorie Taylor and by the way I'm in agreement that by the end they got to Marjorie Taylor Greene from the BBC stuff I must have fallen asleep shortly after that yes you do you have no idea how upsetting that is I am hearing it I'm feeling it in your voice I'm feeling it. I feel you, bro. UK Nexus Report 1 It's long been said that one man's freedom fighter is another terrorist and perhaps the most striking example of someone who illustrated that problem was Nelson Mandela who refused to renounce the use of non-state sanctioned violence for political ends but ended up widely admired around the world

48:49 Two current issues are sparking more debate on this. Here in the UK, there are many people being arrested for holding pieces of paper saying I support Palestine Action a group that's campaigned on Gaza and which spray-painted some planes on a UK airbase And then there are the ongoing military strikes by the United States on Venezuelan and Colombian boats accused of smuggling drugs, which the US justifies as strikes on a terrorist organization with which it is at war. Ben Saul is the UN Special Rapporteur on Counter-Terrorism. He's been thinking about these issues for many many years so how would he define terrorism? I want to call myself The Podcast Rapporteur

49:32 Wait, the funny thing is about the Venezuelan things. When did they start? They started like a month or two ago right? But this guy's been thinking about it for many years! Why he's a rapporteur after all?! So as UN Special Rapporteur we've had working definitions since 2006 and we say it's certain kinds of criminal violence intended to intimidate a population or compel or coerce the government to do something and the action must cause death or serious injury to persons. Okay, so did he just say that what this is about is we're just intimidating the Venezuelans by blowing up their drug boats? He's not saying that. What he's doing

50:23 Saying we are not going after terrorists because by his definition. They're not terrorists But what you just interpreted I believe might be the subtext So they might be actually he doesn't say that but I think can I do something for you for a minute? Just because, you know... You feel so bad about this BBC brainwashing? Yeah. Okay Now I know you don't wear headphones So just get close to the speakers Get close to the speakers Are you ready? I'm gonna fix you Ready? Yeah Okay You've been de-fragmented! Okay, you're good now What?! Hello It's fixed When are we starting the podcast

51:09 Onward. Yeah, so on that basis Nelson Mandela was a terrorist or not? Well Nelson Mandela was part of the freedom fighter movement and of course this is one of the long-standing debates going back many many decades whether freedom fighters or indeed armed conflicts against an occupying power should be regarded as terrorism some of the international best practice standards suggest that armed conflict I like the use of the occupying power. If you know the history of South Africa, there was nothing down there except some Hutus. There wasn't anything to occupy except vacant land. South Africa was...there was nothing there. It was occupied by the Dutch! It was colonized by the Dutch

52:05 Yeah, but they moved there. But it wasn't like they took over from someone else. It wasn't like the Belgian Congo... Another fine North Sea Nexus outfit! Yeah, the Belgian Congo... They killed a hundred thousand what? A million people?! They killed so many people. At least. They're just killing people left and right and it was different. And you know, just because somebody's there doesn't mean their occupiers I mean, they'd like to make that's the point of trying to make is they try this and we're occupying a Native American land. That's what they would like to say that. Yes well did this idea but crap but if we long we pray over it it's okay isn't it as long as we just thank them acknowledgement acknowledges you can acknowledge me so chaos okay

52:51 freedom fighters or indeed armed conflicts against an occupying power should be regarded as terrorism. Some of the international best practice standards suggest that armed conflict should instead be regulated by international humanitarian law, the area where that's built to regulate war and terrorism instead should be peacetime violence subject to domestic criminal law. Everyone is bringing up this international law in context of these boats. What international law are they pointing to here? I don't know, they never say... There's no world court yet is there? No there isn't a world criminal justice thing and the World Criminal Court there's these two operations that talk about it in these clips

CHAPTER 16 / 47 Discussion

Operation Southern Spear, Caribbean Drug War

The Trump administration has escalated military pressure in the Caribbean through Operation Southern Spear, involving the Gerald R. Ford Aircraft Carrier Strike Group and F-35 aircraft. Critics and UN officials have questioned the legality of airstrikes on suspected drug vessels in international waters, which have reportedly resulted in at least 80 deaths.

operation southern spear· venezuela· donald trump· gerald r. ford· drug trafficking

53:40 that we're not part of. It's the Hague, it's in the seat of the enemy in The Hague. I gotta listen to that! The US drug war and Venezuela... That's not a real war according to international law but President Trump is suggesting that it is. Yes so let's just deal with these two other sort of current issues and you mentioned Venezuelan ones say that first of all. How much legal opinion is there supporting the characterization of suspected, suspected, suspected drug smugglers who maybe organized crime being terrorists. Man that would have programmed my mind if that clip comment came across I'd be like what?

54:20 mainstream overwhelming international legal opinion is that this is not a war or an armed conflict, that there is no right to use military force to simply essentially murder narco traffickers on the high seas. Of course the US government... Oh! That's interesting this is the first guy who was just saying it correctly we're murdering narco dudes on the high seas yes Everyone else has been like, well they're fishermen. Well he says that too by the way. Let him ramble. Of course, the US government has put its legal view that it is covered by international humanitarian law and that somehow drug deaths in the United States are somehow equivalent to an armed attack on the United States allowing it to exercise self-defense. But of course, that's nonsense in legal terms and no serious international lawyer worth their salt believes

55:24 Well, no. And by the way I think this show needs an international lawyer. It says Rob Carty do you have an international law degree? You want to make sure that we're covered? No because that's not what it's about! It's about stopping your money through the Caribbean nations where you've been benefiting from this for centuries Yeah yeah They explain their own people We must continue. Where would that get tested in a legal body? Which court would hear that if it went to court? Well, unfortunately the United States has not accepted the jurisdiction of the International Court of Justice. Of course not! It also hasn't accepted the international criminal courts jurisdiction either and that's very deliberate because it doesn't want to be held accountable by international institutions That's not just a Trump position by the way, that's a long-standing position of US administrations of all kinds

56:21 It's why it makes it so much more important that individual governments diplomatically protest these kinds of killings. I mean, we now think... This is so amazing! There are countries doing all kinds of killings including us, including all kinds of African nations but this one is all of a sudden the big deal Yeah, we know the reason why. Trump administration has murdered at least 80 people in dozens of strikes and this is... I never heard the BBC or this guy complain about Obama droning people and their kids never heard him about that! Just incredible lawlessness which is also sending a signal to other states that they can act that way and also get away with it

57:10 very strong language for a UN special rapporteur. But what is your take on whether a suspected drug trafficker or you know an organized crime cartel or something like that can be correctly described as terrorists? So certainly terrorist groups have long been engaged in some forms of organized crime to raise money for their cause. Think of the Taliban in Afghanistan, on the other hand it's a really new phenomenon for drug cartels to be labeled legally as terrorists so the US has done it but not only the U.S., I mean it's also in the last year or two years

57:50 Canada, Honduras, Argentina, Ecuador. Of course in some circumstances organized crime drug cartels in places like Mexico or Colombia can absolutely use violence to intimidate populations or even to coerce or compel governments if you're targeting judges or prosecutors or law enforcement officials Quite a few governments have an extra element in their definition of terrorism, which I think is quite a good one. That's the case in the UK that the violence also has to be done for political or ideological or religious cause and if you look at it that way then I don't think you can say organized crime IS terrorism

58:34 You know, the Dutch diplomats are also up in arms about this. Oh America should stop this! They should stop doing this! Why? It's like Rotterdam man. Hey sales are down people Well, your point about the not bitching about Obama doing this. The other thing about Obama he did it within sovereign borders of other countries Yes yeah was good We're doing it in the open sea Yeah Alright was that the last one? No no you have a short fourth here

59:10 The terrorism label as we've seen in the United States often a pathway for abuses, whether it's summary deportations of the alleged drug cartel members or now in the latest development, the military targeting of civilians on civilian boats carrying allegedly drugs but some of them who knows might be fishermen according to their report. It's fishermen! They always have four outboard engines. Of course, yeah and they always go like bats outta hell and they have a bunch of barrels I got some fish, I gotta get home, I mean I'm gonna get to the other side of the sea real quick with my fish Yeah there is protests erupting everywhere over this The US military released photos of the firepower operating in the Caribbean Sea

CHAPTER 17 / 47 Discussion

Discord Platform, Intelligence Agency Backdoors

The rapid adoption of Discord by Generation Z is analyzed as a potential tool for intelligence agencies to influence youth movements. The platform's history, originating from gaming communities in 2012, is reviewed alongside speculation that its private server structure provides a modern alternative to old-school BBS systems for organizing political unrest.

discord· cia· jason citron· gaming· millennials

59:58 The Gerald R. Ford Aircraft Carrier Strike Group joins another eight warships, F-35 aircraft and a nuclear submarine already in the region escalating President Donald Trump's pressure campaign against Venezuela In an online post the administration calls it Operation Southern Spear Trump says he has basically decided whether or not to take military action against Venezuela and the government of Nicolas Maduro By the way, Trump has really got to stop doing these things on Air Force One. This sucks!

1:00:38 I mean, it's everything is always in the is always in the door. Yeah The audio sucks this is not good for this hurting the show Hold on a Trump alleges Can you run that through Adobe and see if it cleans up? I can actually but I didn't have time This came in late But yes, that's the other thing You know we don't have time Yeah, you're right. Trump should stop doing that because we don't have time to fix his clips! No, we don't have time to fix your clips Mr President!

1:01:18 U.S.. Military has carried out roughly 20 airstrikes on alleged drug vessels in international waters and is yet to offer proof of narcotics trafficking outside the white house protesters voiced their opposition to the military aggression and the killings of at least 80 people in boats off The coast of Venezuela in Caracas the Venezuelan president was engulfed by a sea of supporters and addressed the crowd partly in English below I love this somebody make this into a techno song the love and peace the peace and partly in English Hope and peace. The peace of love! American fighter jets are once again operating in Puerto Rico at the former military base, fueling more speculation of the next US moves I just can't see it any other way as that we're blowing every single drug carrier out of the water Colombia? No Venezuela... We're not gonna go after Venezuela If all of a sudden Gen Z rises up in Venezuela then were going after Venezuela

1:02:23 But we don't have to do anything, the Gen Z's will make it happen. They're actually effective! If we want them too... No no, we have to initiate it obviously at least by our thesis and I'm in total agreement It's us US as in U.S., us, our people are our agencies whoever is behind it I'm you have to guess it's a you know one of the main... This this is a new era it's a new CIA they've kicked out the DEI They got the... Brandon's on the run. Yeah, got him out. They sorted out most of the DEI people and I'm not sure they're completely clean But they still have a lot of young energetic patriotic agents And they're like no-no-no we just gotta get on the Discord buddy Come on hold on a second let me show you how it's done You want Charlie Kirk dead? Let me get on the Discord with this kid The Discord is where its at

1:03:25 There must be some great backdoors into that thing. We don't need a backdoor, you just can't... No? I've never been on it so i don't know and should I do are you recommending that I get an account so at least I know what I'm talking about when it comes to discord Do you have an account? I have an account on the Light Phone Discord. See these discords they're kind of like separate little entities or islands And it's imagine if it's like an old-school BBS. You got a forum you got your file upload This is why I'm probably not attracted to it already gone through that phase No, it's not attractive but it's it's what you know? You can upload your files and you can you know It's kind of a like FTP Can I upload my files and give them just so I could send somebody a hundred megabyte file its drag-and-drop baby Yeah

1:04:17 So this took the place of lockbox or whatever the hell that thing was called? Well no, I mean this is what... Look, who's on X? Millennials... Who was on it first. Yeah! Who?! Millennials and boomers are on X That's who is there The kids are not on X They're all on Discord It started with the gamers I'm just giving my abbreviated version The gamers would be in these Discord sessions You should know all this to extreme extreme You don't need to know it you just sit there and sleep during the BBC And I'll fill ya' in

CHAPTER 18 / 47 Discussion

No Authority, Discord Community Management

A discussion regarding the challenges of managing online communities, specifically referencing the "No Authority" forum and the potential for a show-specific Discord server. The hosts express skepticism about the long-term stability of such platforms, noting that they often devolve into internal conflict or extremist rhetoric without brutal moderation.

no authority· blue sky· patrick koble· community moderation· discord

1:04:54 I'm gonna have to go do something. We could set up a no agenda discord! There already is one, i'm sure and if anyone sets it up we give it about one year and three months before they turn on us like everything else All of a sudden, Noah Janis sucks. Man you need to come in if you're not posting on our discord enough You know good Yeah and then they start the Jew hate Oh no that's I Need to check in with NoAuthority see how they're doing over there This is out of control You've looked recently? I haven't looked for months but last time I looked it was out of control It should be you might as well go to blue sky same thing

1:05:44 No, I haven't no. I don't think anyone looks at blue sky seems to fall out of favor again for the discord But this is it you set up a discord there's all kinds of things who runs who runs discord Is it a publicly traded company? Uh-uh I Don't think is there some publicly traded angle here um. I don't think they're public Let me see mmM. Let me see a boot let me look at a boot oh So anybody, I mean they're clearly... their financing is very unclear. Yes because this is a spooked operation! I believe it to be mainly a spooked operation here we go, let me see

1:06:27 Discord was... We can deconstruct this right on the floor. By the way, people were doing this on the fly we're gonna deconstruct how involved a CIA is to mention one of the agencies. A boot page. Discord was built to solve one problem How do we mind-control kids to do our bidding? It doesn't say that. No, how to talk with friends while gaming together but much like the protagonists of our favorite game stories all journeys have their humble beginnings That's spook language if I ever saw it Totally! I agree Jason Citron established this is a timeline 2012 was when this started

1:07:09 2012. That's important. That was when Obama got re-elected. Yes, 2013 Stanislav Vizhevonitsky joins Jason as they continue working together on their upcoming mobile game so a lot of this is game game game game spring 2016 let me see if we go beyond the game summer 2016 discord brings the power to voice call friends directly in DMs and group DMS, and unleashes one of its most popular features of all time. The ability to upload and use custom emojis in servers. Oh yeah! Once you get those... There's nothing more important than a custom emoji that would account for the skull and crossbones with a little straw hat

1:07:56 Let me see so this is all gaming gaming gaming Oh spring 2025 Jason announces his transition from CEO to board member and advisor Who mom sucks Nini becomes discords new CEO? I think we already deconstructed this that this human sun Nini guy. He's he's a Brit pretty sure let me see his name's human and Who mom who mom yeah, this is the guy from McKinsey King digital all British all British he He was well how is it our op? Well we can still be working with him. Maybe it isn't maybe who knows But the British aren't that creative to do these kinds now Activision Activision Blizzard hmm

1:08:55 Anyway, anybody can set up a discord. That's basically the whole idea you set up a discord It's free if you want certain functionality You have to pay for it I believe there's a missing piece of this puzzle it seems to me right well anyway That's where the kids are The kids are on the discord If your hips hip with it you're not an X you're on discord you're on a did you have your own? Discord server and I think we should have one We have plenty of people that can set one up. Yeah, we'll join! We'll get an account Maybe she should have Koble do it Oh Patrick Koble? Because he could... He's the sort that would be brutal Yeah yeah no he would slice and dice anybody I don't know if he has time in his life for it but I could ask him

CHAPTER 19 / 47 Discussion

Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene, Political Rift

Donald Trump publicly withdrew his endorsement of Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene via Truth Social, labeling her a "ranting lunatic" and encouraging a primary challenger in her Georgia district. Greene responded by claiming Trump attacked her because of her advocacy for the release of the Epstein files, asserting her independence from the MAGA establishment.

donald trump· marjorie taylor greene· truth social· georgia· primary

1:09:52 He has time and he's a busy man. He puts it makes you think he doesn't but guys like that always do All right now we're gonna move to what I really? I'm just thinking like we've seen this with Tucker We've seen it with Elon Like Oh big fight, and then they go off when they do the thing And there's reconciliation and Tucker is somehow involved in this you know, rooting out of entities unwanted in the Republican Party and probably unwanted in... This one here I can't disagree with you on any of this because I felt the same way when it first started. Now my clips got an NPR and two BBCs Why don't I play that? Because what I have is straight up reads of what Trump posted and what Marjorie Taylor Greene replied

1:10:42 So it's just a- That should go first. Yeah, so I'm saying it so straight read of instead of me reading it we got some other nut job reading it right? I wanna read you again what President Trump said on Truth Social he said I am withdrawing my support and endorsement of Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of the great state of Georgia over the past few weeks despite creating record achievements for our country, including a total and complete victory on the shutdown. Closed borders low taxes no men in women's sports or transgender for everyone ending D E I stopping Biden's records setting inflation

1:11:22 The biggest regulation cuts in history, stopping eight wards. Rebuilding our military being respected by every country in the world as opposed to being the laughing stock that we were just 12 months ago having trillions of dollars record setting invested in the USA and having created the hottest and Unless of course she had my endorsement, which she wasn't about to get. He said that she has told many people that she's upset that I don't return her phone calls anymore but with 219 congressmen and women 53 US senators 24 cabinet members and almost 200 countries And in otherwise normal life to lead I can take a ranting lunatics calls every day

1:12:29 I understand that wonderful conservative people are thinking about primary Marjorie in her district of Georgia, that they are too fed up with her and her antics. And if the right person runs they will have my complete and unyielding support. She has gone far left even doing The View with their low IQ Republican hating anchors Trump says thank you for your attention to this matter. Make America great again. So when I hear this, I'm like really? And here's her reply she posted that she said President Trump just attacked me and lied about me. I haven't called him at all but i did send these text messages today we will show you those in a moment She said apparently this is what sent him over the edge The Epstein files

1:13:19 And of course he's coming out. Now, just I just got to stop here for a second three weeks ago Marjorie Taylor Greene was all about Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, APEC, Israel, APEC, Israel boom, boom, it had dropped and now its Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. I feel a set up in this This is the setup. And that he actually goes to this level, she says. She went on to say but really most Americans wish he would fight this hard to help the forgotten men and women of America who are fed up with foreign wars and foreign causes are going broke trying to feed their families and

1:14:20 of ever achieving the American dream. That's what I voted for, I have supported President Trump with too much of my precious time, too much of my own money and fought harder for him even when almost all other Republicans turned their back and denounced him." and she also said, but I don't worship or serve President Trump. I worship God Jesus as my savior. And I served my district GA 14 and the American people. I remain the same today as I've always been and I will continue to Pray that this administration will be successful because the American people desperately deserve what they voted for She said for me. I remain America first and America only He's bringing in the MAGA versus America first Yes, the that's a classic split and Can you spell posturing?

CHAPTER 20 / 47 Discussion

Epstein File Vote, Scripted Political Theater

The public rift between Donald Trump and Marjorie Taylor Greene is analyzed as potential "scripted theater" designed to draw attention to the upcoming House vote on the Epstein files. The theory suggests that by appearing to oppose the release, Trump allows independent Republicans and Democrats to force the files out, shielding himself from the fallout while exposing political enemies.

jeffrey epstein· marjorie taylor greene· donald trump· house of representatives· political strategy

1:15:19 POS. That's what the two of them are doing. Well, this is bullcrap! Yeah WWF is what I'm feeling here This is a classic... Oh yes exactly This is what Trump does and he understands this kind of show business His pencil neck geek Alright, so what did you get? So did she go on the BBC is that what these clips are from or no These are just analysis clips much not not the classic What is the BBC doing analysis on Marjorie Taylor Greene? Well, that's a isn't that interesting. Mm-hmm

1:15:55 Well, let's start with the NPR clip. It is also a short summary. Okay here we go. President Trump is cutting ties with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. The president posting on social media announcing he has withdrawn support from the Georgia Republican and PRS Ava Pukac reports that Greene suspects The rift came from her support for the release of the Epstein files. In his post, Trump called for conservatives to primary green saying quote if the right person runs they will have my complete and unyielding support Green said in a post of her own that she had sent the president attacks regarding the Epstein files But she said quote sent him over the edge She said Trump is trying to make an example Of her to scare other Republicans ahead of the house's vote to force the release of the Epstein files. I

1:16:43 Green has been a longtime Trump ally and prominent MAGA figure, but she's been at odds with the president. Notably in calling for the Justice Department to release the files about the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein Okay Now couple of things there one is that this is drawing attention To the Epstein file vote! To the vote yes, and Trump is against it So that means that people will have to show their independence. Hold on, hold on! He hasn't actually said he's against it? No he doesn't have too but this rift... This points it out I think the riff between him and MTG which is

1:17:23 you and I agree, is scripted bull crap to get attention. Like well he doesn't want this to happen so he's gonna bring out the independent Republicans that make sure they vote for it. That would be Massey, that would be her probably a couple others and then they got the new woman in from the Democrat side. The Democrats of course because Trump doesn't want this are gonna go oh yes! They're all gonna vote for it and at the end of the day at least by both... And we both agree on this the Epstein files get released and it embarrasses a bunch of Democrats and a bunch of big shots, and Trump says hey I never wanted this release! And now you know why. You can blame these bastards for doing it Marjorie Taylor Greene is like in the middle because yeah doesn't matter what side she takes she said well I didn't know I wasn't ready oh poor thing That's what makes sense to me

CHAPTER 21 / 47 Discussion

Michael Wolff, Trump as Epstein Informant

Author Michael Wolff claimed on the Valuetainment platform that Jeffrey Epstein believed Donald Trump was the original informant who alerted police to the activities at Epstein's Florida residence. This claim supports a long-standing theory that Trump may have cooperated with the FBI against Epstein, contributing to their eventual enmity.

michael wolff· jeffrey epstein· donald trump· fbi· valuetainment

1:18:22 I mean just as a very, very short one and i have more of this later because it's from Valuetainment and it's 14 seconds. There is always time for a 14 minute valuetainment clip. This is Michael Wolff on values. He's got his tit in a ringer! Well, but here's what he says... Epstein believed that it was Trump who first informed the police about what was going on at Epstein's house and from that point on they were nothing but bitter enemies Yeah this is like this is not unknown I mean Mike Johnson said it a long time ago he said I think Trump was an informant for the FBI against Epstein

1:19:06 But, you know that doesn't matter because my ex timeline is filled with hate about you and me. We're protecting pedophiles now and we helped get Trump elected! You don't even know your so wrong! There's that guy again I don't why can't get rid of him. So let's go to your point that you made this is the point Why does the BBC care? Yeah, let's find out. So here we go with the BBC talking about American amounts to gossip talking about MTG versus Trump

CHAPTER 22 / 47 Discussion

BBC Analysis, MAGA vs America First Split

The BBC reported on the growing divide within the Republican party between "Establishment MAGA" and the "America First" wing. Correspondent Nomia Iqbal noted that Marjorie Taylor Greene's recent breaks from Trump—including her stance on the Gaza conflict and her demand for Epstein file transparency—signal a significant shift in the movement's internal dynamics.

bbc· nomia iqbal· gaza· israel· marjorie taylor greene

1:19:47 President Trump has hit out at one of his hitherto most reliable allies, Georgia Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. She's been speaking out criticizing the US close relationship with Israel for example calling for the release of the Justice Department files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein as well and the president is now described her as a disgrace and wacky The BBC's Nomia Iqbal joins us live from Washington. So look, this is a row between two big media figures one the president obviously but also Marjorie Taylor Greene very prominent on the TV screens Is it just that? A sort of spat between two people or does it represent something bigger? I think it's quite easy Sunni

1:20:32 at a moment there where you feel a bit cynical and think, well is it just two very close people who have fallen out? But I think it's much more than that. Marjorie Taylor Greene is this real firebrand, a loyal foot soldier to Donald Trump she's known for fuelling unsubstantiated conspiracy theories but her devotion to Mr Trump has been unquestionable she stood by his 2020 claims of election fraud. She supported him in the wake of the Epstein controversy actually she said she believed that President Trump had no involvement in the sex scandal but in the recent months, she's really started breaking ranks with him as you mentioned there she has distanced herself from the US and Trump's very close relationship Israel. She is the only Republican to refer to what's happening in Gaza as a genocide

1:21:21 criticized his tariff policy. How about this? How about this is exactly the intended result because, and this is just a dream scenario in my scenario we forced the vote and everything gets released and the biggest pedophiles are all British many of them from the BBC itself, which is not completely unthinkable. How many pedophiles have had to leave the BBC in the past 10 years? Quite a lot! Bring in some more, uh...some more royalty. I'm sure we can bring in someone." I mean look who's gone down! That that's an extreme interpretation of what might happen Andrew Mandelson Yeah And he just had to leave the lodge You know this uhh..I mean at this point who gives a rat's ass about Clinton? Like duh! Clinton and young girls oh okay I'm shocked Bill Gates and young girls shocked yeah blah shocked okay

1:22:22 But I think that there possibly could be, this is where people get on my X-Time like, 5D chess again eh? Maybe. What was that? 5D chess. Oh five D? Yes now it's five d. You know, I get blamed for things you say it's incredible. That just because of the way I do it I do it in such a way that you will get blamed. It's a technique, believe me! If you had any idea what the technique was... You'd employ it yourself. Teach Me Master! Teach Me! No! That one I keep to myself. Teach Me how to do it!

1:23:06 Alright, let's play clip 2. Her view is very much that the Epstein files should be released, all of them. And she's very upset that he's not doing that and I think why it's significant is because we're talking about the MAGA base, Make America Great Again this a very loyal base to Donald Trump and splitting away from that

1:23:43 I think is significant, especially when it comes to Marjorie Taylor Greene. What we're seeing is a split between those establishment MAGA and the American... America First Right these are the people like Miss Green who believe they are adhering to the principles that Donald Trump campaigned on. Don't want to be too journalistically cynical but I mean, I guess this is a fair question is she driven by these issues or is she driven by presidential ambitions and creating a bit of clear water between them with a view to what might happen in three years time? Well, this is certainly what the cynics amongst in Donald Trump circles are saying that this is all about because he didn't let her run for the governor race in Georgia if for the Senate ambitions as well. I actually know someone pretty close to Marjorie Taylor Greene and you know some of our friends who have said that's not true

1:24:34 and that she basically doesn't agree with a lot of what he stands for, and that they're constantly fighting. And she had been fearing for her safety in terms of how other people in that world may view her stance. Actually on social media she's now saying that she is facing a lot of threats. Yeah everyone's facing threats Megan Kelly everyone's facing threats But you know these these 20,000 plus emails didn't even come from the FBI or the State Department they came from Epstein's estate and but you might not have heard this but during the 2019 House hearing of Michael Cohen Trump's fixer Epstein was texting with the Democrat from state Stacey Plaskett The Democrat from the US Virgin Islands non-voting member actually

CHAPTER 23 / 47 Discussion

Thomas Massie, Epstein File Discharge Petition

Congressman Thomas Massie appeared on ABC News to discuss his successful discharge petition to force the release of the Epstein files. Massie expressed concern that Trump’s recent call for new investigations might be a "smoke screen" intended to prevent the public release of documents by keeping them tied up in active DOJ probes.

thomas massie· jeffrey epstein· ro khanna· house of representatives· abc news

1:25:29 But he's texting with her. Oh, no you got to talk about Rona referring to his personal secretary Rona. I forget what her last name was every everybody has Ronas. Rona Graf. Everybody has her number. You know so it was it's so obvious that Trump has nothing anywhere that is bad for him but only for Democrats Brits elites I mean it just this seems like you're so right. Like yeah, I told you didn't want to do it. It's just a little too early. It should be closer to the midterms. No they have to push it off as long as they can So then this morning Massey comes on ABC and by the way, Kenny I would just stop for say I am sick of this guy

1:26:18 I mean he's entertaining, he's affable. He's got... everything is a joke to him! He's like a classic old-fashioned right winger from the 70s and he thinks that he knows better than everyone else and he doesn't like to play ball. He's not that old? He can't be from the 70s?! No no he's got... yeah um no i said he's the style of a 70s right winger Well, if you used to listen to 70s talk shows...70's and 80's talk shows with the right wingers they all had a certain kind of glib style. I know more than you do it was very obnoxious presentation and i can't explain any better than that In the seventies I was watching Speed Racer in romper rooms Yeah well yeah I'm sure you were

1:27:07 So you have to and you were also not here. You weren't listening American talk radio. Let me ask you a question If your wife died suddenly, how long do you feel it appropriate before you remarry? Depends I'm just asking on the personal level What do you think I think you could do it within a year as exactly what he did It depends on your personal, it depends on your type of what kind of person you are. If you're like a couple or somebody just gloms onto women and gets married

1:27:47 Couples up real fast. Yeah, it could be pretty quick But something that's preak if you're already having an affair with somebody well He knew where a long time before yeah, and that's always suspicious to me I know I mean I have no standing in this area personally so But here he is let's listen to what he has to say he also has changed his look at He looks a lot younger with the beard. Oh, he's got the new lady! The beard... Well she's got a beard now? What?! Yeah he's got a beard and mustache. I gotta look this up. It looks much better i have to say. As a TV producer I'm just saying that I think he has reinvented his character. We're joined by Republican Congressman Thomas Massey of Kentucky

1:28:32 who led the effort to release the Epstein files. Congressman Massey, thank you for being here. President Trump fought long and hard to prevent your discharge petition from going through. You won that battle now what happens? How many Republicans in the House follow your lead and defy the president on this a lot of them I think we could have a deluge of Republicans. There could be 100 or more, and I'm hoping to get a veto-proof majority on this legislation when it comes up for a vote And, you know the president's been saying this is a hoax. He's been saying that for months Well he just now decided to investigate a hoax if it's a hoax and I have another concern about these investigations that he has announced If they have ongoing investigations in certain areas those documents can't be released so this might be a big smoke screen these investigations to open up bunch of them

1:29:25 as a last ditch effort to prevent the release of the Epstein files. I mean it is extraordinary to hear him demand an investigation and only mention Democrats, only mention his political opponents but you're saying he doesn't really may not really even want any investigation? He wants to prevent their release why does he want to prevent this what what is he afraid of? What could be you know I've never said that these files will implicate Donald Trump? And I really don't think that they will. I think he's trying to protect a bunch of rich and powerful friends billionaires donors to his campaign friends in his social circles and That's my operating theory on why he's trying so hard to keep these files closed that doesn't seem at all plausible I don't think he cares if first of all He's not he doesn't need money to get reelected

CHAPTER 24 / 47 Discussion

Epstein Estate Emails, High-Profile Names

Recent document releases from the Jeffrey Epstein estate have highlighted connections to prominent figures including former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers, Noam Chomsky, and Peter Thiel. The discussion focuses on the financial ties between Epstein and JPMorgan Chase, where suspicious transaction reports were allegedly ignored for years.

larry summers· jp morgan chase· noam chomsky· peter thiel· bill clinton

1:30:17 So, why are you protecting your donors? Perfect. Yeah. Is there some kind of loyalty? He'll throw anybody under the bus for anything! He does it all the time! Yes! All the time! This has to do with the 2016... 2026. 2026 election. So if our thesis, because it's just a thesis... It's not that we go to bed at night hoping for this although it would be kind of cool If there was a whole bunch of pedophiles in the BBC That part is new to the thesis That would be ideal And I think it would be pretty funny We've kinda papered over that Jim will fix it business Don't talk about it Forget about the kids

1:31:06 the TV show with the kids and the corpses, and all that. Let's just talk about that." Maybe Massey is a part of it? Because he seems like... No! You think you know you think he's a willing idiot in this particular case? He has to be. This guy if you just listen to him enough, you couldn't trust him to read him in. You'd just get the sense that yeah you could read him in and he would blow it up You just don't you it's just one of those guys. I believe I could be wrong, but he may be a player I just do not think he I think is an independent guy that doesn't you read him in on something? He'd be aghast Think it's disgusting. I mean the scheme would be right Why would you try to scheme against American public the files would have to be had would have to have something so awesome That you could drag it out

1:31:59 for, well essentially 10 more months in media. You know because it let's say this comes out and I'd say maybe January? I think it probably won't happen until then there'll be some other you know Trump will probably do some more like ohhhhhh and then he said oh whatever. Okay let's say the vote goes they have to release the files yeah she can slow walk She can slow walk it probably to February-March. Okay, at some point... But still it has to be so egregious that you can drag everyone down into it for six months! That's a long time I know this is a real problem. I see the same way Alright let's check out click because of this good because of the quick cycle of people just forget

1:32:48 You know, this is what Schumer's banking on. That the thing is going to blow over and he's gonna be... Oh people already forgot about the shutdown! Yes it's true they've already forgotten. Schumer's good to go. He's back on track. What do you think is actually in these files? I mean we've seen so much Epstein material from the criminal cases The stuff that just came out this week From the estate. What do you think is left? They talk and talk about these files Have you noticed that not one person, including us have mentioned the real deal on these video tapes? That's what we want. Well maybe files they imply... No! They can imply all they want they're not talking about the tapes. We want tapes? The CDs, the CD-ROMS I think it's a lot of stuff. Well whatever they are doesn't matter but there is recordings

1:33:45 people in the bedrooms. I don't, I don't even think there's that much of that. They said they were there was clauses full! Let's find out let's you know we're all gonna be on edge just waiting for this. From criminal cases the stuff that just came out this week you know from The Estate what do you think is left? Yeah, I don't have to guess at what's in the files. I've talked to the survivors through their lawyer and we know there are at least 20 people in those files that are politicians, billionaires movie producers who are implicated criminally who haven't been investigated and it is up to the FBI not the survivors and the DOJ to release those names or at least investigate them And when I see Donald Trump announce a bunch of investigations

1:34:35 I don't see him going after these rich elites that are implicated in these files, according to the survivors. So the BBC again wrote an article about who else was mentioned in it says Epstein files but I think that's just these emails so Michael Wolff we know that Larry Summers is interesting. Yeah, I think that's now he was what he was what his job previously? He was in the Treasury was right. Right Catherine room lure. That's a picture for an ad list of them. She looks worried

1:35:17 She's at Goldman Sachs, but this happened pre-Goldman Sachs. Peter Thiel? Probably nothing there. I can't imagine what that could be! He's gay so yeah he doesn't need young girls. Noam Chomsky That's funny. Yeah, probably nothing but that was probably just a you know he did this thing you have to remember Epstein did this thing because You know different people got involved in it where he would socialize with scientists So he could find out things that he needed to know for some leverage of some sort or other yeah? So he would probably hang out with Chomsky But I I just cannot see now that guy now going to the island Or even taking getting on a plane to the island

CHAPTER 25 / 47 Discussion

Kentucky Primary, Trump Bully Tactics

Thomas Massie addressed Donald Trump's support for his primary opponents in Kentucky, dismissing the President's tactics as bullying. Massie noted that his opponents are financed by billionaires found in Epstein's phone book and warned his colleagues that a vote against releasing the files would be a permanent stain on their records.

thomas massie· donald trump· kentucky· billionaires· epstein phone book

1:36:01 It's not gonna happen. Let's continue with this riveting ABC interview The president has gone after you in some deeply personal ways, I mean attacking you over and over again even attacking you regarding your wedding, your recent wedding which by the way congratulations What do you make of all that? And he is obviously supporting your primary opponents what kind of retribution are you facing You know, my wife told me she said I told you so we should have invited Donald Trump. He's mad that he didn't get an invitation. We're taking it with a grain of salt he's being a bully or trying to be a bully

1:36:42 And they're trying to beat me here in Kentucky, but here's what's interesting. The people financing this campaign consist completely of three billionaires and they're all in the Epstein class In fact one of them is named in Epstein phone book not the secret files that the FBI keeping but in Epsteins phone books so Everybody's in Epstein's phone book I don't know who yeah That's true But who was he well? I don't know tell us who it is no Why? I don't know.

1:37:23 and the president himself, and the vice president. They're taking a big loss this week because after months of fighting I am winning this week with Ro Khanna we're forcing this vote it's going to happen. I would remind my Republican colleagues who are deciding how to vote Donald Trump can protect you in red districts right now by giving you an endorsement but in 2030 he is not gonna be the And you will have voted to protect pedophiles if you don't vote to release these files and the president can't protect you then. This vote, the record of this vote will last longer than Donald Trump's presidency. That is a good one. Yeah there is something there. That is a good threat I like that threat.

1:38:02 Yeah, and that would kind of make it sound as though he's in on it. But I still can't...I just think he is a useful idiot. Here's the last clip. Now I've talked to Senate leadership who tell me that this is almost certainly not even going to be brought up for a vote in the Senate. What's your sense on that? Wait now what vote in the senate do we need all of sudden? Why do I thought this was a house vote? Do we need the Senate now too? Not that I know of. Let me listen again. Leadership who tell me that this is almost certainly not even going to be brought up for a vote in the Senate, what's your sense on that? I mean, I guess if there's an overwhelming voting like you said 100 Republicans join all the Democrats, the pressure will be immense but do you have any sense the Senate is even gonna vote on this

1:38:57 Well, they don't have the procedural maneuver that Ro Khanna and I used in the House. They don't have that in the Senate it's called a discharge petition but the senators do have other ways to force votes as amendments for instance on larger bills in order to let bills move quicker through the chamber so they could force the vote in spite of the leaderships efforts. I just hope John Thune will do the right thing look Our own speaker tried to push this bill by unanimous consent last week within 15 minutes of me getting the 218th vote because he was trying to save people from a vote. If he's ready to pass it by unanimous consent, then the Senate leader should be as well just bring it up but the pressure is going to be there if we get a big vote in house. Oh so it sounds like you do need the senate to vote on this? That's what it sounds like but I liked that trickery of Johnson

1:39:48 a non-vote, just pass it by unanimous consent so nobody can have it marked against them as only pro pedophile. Let the Senate hang! You let the Senators go for it and then you have to do the same thing because you can't be on the record voting against this because it looks like you're protecting pedophiles and so this is very tricky and it's definitely gonna have to happen but if you're trying to keep by our thesis. If you're trying to keep it from happening until the midterms, as close to them as you can to submarine the Democrats... It's gonna be rough. Here Senator Chris Murphy is brought into the conversation by Jonathan Karl On Epstein The president is now demanding or has demanded that the Attorney General and Justice Department investigate his political opponents

CHAPTER 26 / 47 Discussion

Chris Murphy, DOJ Corruption Allegations

Senator Chris Murphy criticized the Department of Justice under Pam Bondi, characterizing it as a "protection racket" for Donald Trump. Murphy argued that Trump's efforts to block the Epstein files suggest he is personally implicated, and he urged the Senate to hold a bipartisan vote on the matter as soon as it passes the House.

chris murphy· pam bondi· department of justice· donald trump· senate

1:40:45 And Pam Bondi responded by basically saying yes sir and moving in that direction. What do you make of that? Well, it's both heartbreaking and totally unsurprising. The Department of Justice has just become a protection racket for Donald Trump and a witch hunt operation against his political opponents This is why our democracy... Which political opponents? Bill Clinton?! Is he a political opponent? I have not heard a name who was the political opponent Opponent of what? The 2028 election Murphy guys the worst is in such peril right now is that for the first time in our history The Department of Justice operates in order to try to punish and lock up anybody that criticizes Donald Trump I'm really proud of the work. The representative Massey has done In the House of Representatives along with Ro Khanna, and yes John Thune should bring that

1:41:41 that vote to the Senate floor as soon as it passes the House of Representatives. It's true that Donald Trump is trying to cover up for, I think a host of really powerful and rich people but he's frankly not that selfless He wouldn't be going through all this effort to try and stop these files if he wasn't seriously implicated in those files This is most likely the biggest corruption scandal history of the country. We know that because Donald Trump is going to these extraordinary lengths to stop these files from coming out. The Senate should take this vote I think it'll be a likely another big bipartisan vote and I'm grateful to our House colleagues for sending it our way

1:42:22 I mean, what the only thing that really could... Before you make that in. I think he's this guy is insincere. He knows exactly what's going on. The Democrats know that they're trying to push this off to the primary to the, I keep saying primaries but midterms They keep trying to push off and these guys know that's what they're trying to do so they keep saying it Trump is Trump he's in there, we gotta get it out quick because they want it out quick. This is insincerity at the highest order from this guy Murphy. This Murphy guy is a bad guy! He's a bad dude

1:42:59 He's a bad dude. He is terrible, but he knows exactly what's going on I'm not fooled by this nonsense. He's up there with corn pop another bad dude Yeah How about this though? How about I mean everyone's so pedophile pedophile pedophile man This I would be less surprised if what came out is mi6 Possibly Mossad but I think mi6 is more likely That's what Epstein was involved in. That's what Maxwell was involved in, that's what Maxwell's dead. Yeah blackmail operations! Yeah but from MI6 not from the Mossad...

1:43:39 Yeah, maybe. Well I mean this is our thinking right now we're kind of floating in that direction with this anti-MI6 all of a sudden established and may have been hypnotized in my hour and pre-programmed to blame the MI6 for something that Mossad's doing because the Jews, the Mossads actually run the BBC And that's what we don't understand because all you know is the Jews run the media so why don't they run the BBC and the whole thing is a misdirection. We've been duped, both of us! Possibly... Here's the President This by the way is sweetened by

CHAPTER 27 / 47 Discussion

Larry Summers, MI6 Espionage Theory

A theory is proposed that the Epstein scandal is less about sexual misconduct and more about international espionage and financial control involving MI6. The discussion points to Larry Summers' roles at the Treasury and Harvard as potential links to a broader network of intelligence-driven blackmail operations centered in the City of London.

larry summers· mi6· harvard· bill clinton· espionage

1:44:23 news nation. This is run through Adobe, this is the president on the plane and this what it sounds like when you run it through Adobe which is well done I mean... It gets choppy here and there? I know nothing about that they would have announced that a long time ago It's really what did he mean when he spent all of his time with Bill Clinton With the President of Harvard who you know without his summers Oh, Larry Summers the president of Harvard. He was with the Treasury Department but he became the President of Harvard later or before or later I can't remember...I'm gonna have to look it up. But you said either before or later Now if you want an MI6 connection Larry Summers when he was a treasury department? Banking City of London

1:45:10 Larry Summers, whatever his name is. And all of the other people that he spent time with. Jeffrey Epstein and I had a very bad relationship for many years but he also saw strength because I was president so he dictated a couple of memos to himself give me a break You're gonna find out what did he know with respect to Bill Clinton, with respect to the head of Harvard. With respect all those people that he knew including JPMorgan Chase Now the JP Morgan chase thing is very interesting because all those doc... no one's talking about it but all other documents came out I think a week or two ago

1:45:47 And JPMorgan Chase, he was like I need $800,000. Okay here it is cash. I need $50,000 give it to that person there was all kinds of suspicious transaction reports being filed anybody would have been kicked out of the bank except for Epstein And so if you listen very carefully to what the president says here, he tells us what we're gonna see. But he also saw strength because I was president So he dictated a couple of memos to himself give me a break You gotta find out What did he know with respect to Bill Clinton? With respect to the head of Harvard with respect all those people that he knew including JP Morgan Chase What did he know? What did he know? It's ehhh

1:46:34 Yeah, maybe. You know Trump does this it's possible I'm gonna read you Larry Summers little bio here or the chronology he was a Harvard president from 2001 to 2006 then he became the United States Secretary of the Treasury under Clinton in 99, well he's there from 99 to 2001 then he became Harvard. Clinton Rhodes Scholar Yeah and is a Democrat yeah Rhodes Scholar yeah then he became the Secretary Undersecretary 95-95 okay so he went from the Treasury to Harvard and then he became the Director of the National Economics Council in 2009 after he left Harvard he was it there from 2001 2006

1:47:18 So he's a Clintonista and he, right. Yeah which brings us back this makes it more English Maybe it's much less about sex stuff and a lot more about espionage control finance finance yeah well hopefully we'll know four more years the one thing that would that I did learn and this is possibly the reason why Bannon was kind of kicked out of Trump's circle. And Bannon, by the way is listed on the group that Massey was talking about the ten people and it was one of them so on the value payments

CHAPTER 28 / 47 Discussion

Valuetainment vs No Agenda, Bannon Media Training

Patrick Bet-David's interview with Michael Wolff revealed that Steve Bannon's 2019 interactions with Jeffrey Epstein were not for a documentary, but rather for media training to prepare Epstein for a hostile "60 Minutes" interview. The segment also discusses the competitive landscape of podcast merchandise, including "No Agenda" branded boots and sneakers.

patrick bet-david· steve bannon· michael wolff· jeffrey epstein· valuetainment

1:48:04 I'm big on, by the way. I've been talking to Justin from the boots and the sneakers snow agenda boots no agenda sneakers Yeah He's all in he says you're gonna have cool stitching on the sneakers with no agenda on it We'll we'll do something cool on the boots Yeah now we're gonna rival the value attainment boys with our stuff. Oh, easily! Which is gonna be cheaper for starters like $599 bucks for shoes We have to consider the cost of these things I mean you can't be... Well and these are made in America not made in Europe Italy? No it's made in Merca baby by Mercans Anyway Yeah we know how to make shoes Sneakers! We invented the sneaker

1:48:51 You know, you need to have your sneakers. Because the PDB is... The Valuetainment are sneakers just with leather looking tops. Anyway onward we'll get to that when we get to it. Now you were making a point before I got distracted about the Valuetainment guy and i have to say i love the PDB the PDB Valuetainment guy because he has Michael Wolff on You're talking about PBD himself. Yeah, PBD himself is talking to Michael Wolff and PBD is like... he's basically I mean if you listen the whole interview He really wanted to buy the tapes! He wants to buy the tapes The 100 hours or whatever that Michael Wolff has and Michael Wolff was not selling But he keeps until he finally... actually at the end he says Oh, I thought you wanted to sell the tape No no, I'm never gonna sell the tape because yeah, I'm sure he's being optioned Hey Brunetti

1:49:40 Brunetti, this is... you got to option this guy. Think about that House of Epstein just a thought house. Oh yeah that's the winner Yeah I mean Fifty Shades of Epstein come on man keep the franchise going So in this conversation it comes up and PBD thinks that Bannon has tapes too And Michael Wolff sets him straight on this and I think this is probably the reason why Bannon was kicked out. With a hundred hours that you have, are there... Is there anything in there? Like let's just say i'm an interested buyer. I would be interested in buying the 100 hours that you have. PBD as a businessman! I want to buy that man! I don't need Brunetti, I can produce it myself in Italy Be interested in buying Bannon's

1:50:35 15 16 hours that he has right I would be interested in both of them how let me just add about Bannon's ban I wouldn't buy them from Bannon if I were you because Bannon does not own them Oh who owns them? I don't know that the yeah Jeffrey Epstein paid for those the estate owns a state owns it so Wow okay So that's that's a new fact he would never be able to use those hours in the documentary yes, and again And again let me let me stress that although Steve who I am personally fond of When someone says that I'm personally fond of you means. I hate you though Steve who I am personally fond of

1:51:14 But Steve's cover here that he was making a documentary about Epstein is 100% not true. I know this because I was there and am fully aware, actually have it on tape of what transpired here and that was Bannon's effort to help Epstein with his legal problems in this would be 2019 when the law was closing in on Epstein and Bannon's suggestion was that Epstein go on national TV to try to perform a mea culpa or explain or humanize himself in some way. And then Bannon offered to help prepare him, so essentially what Bannon was doing was media training he was tutoring

1:52:10 Epstein in how to face a hostile interview on a you know hypothetical 60 minutes. Huh, so Bannon was- Well that's the end of the day Geez, thank you very much. Highly unexpected. So what would a former naval intelligence guy want to do to be helping Epstein with his image in a hypothetical 60 Minutes interview? This reeks of intelligence issues! It reeks of something for one thing Bannon as a

1:52:50 as a image consultant, media advisor. Look at his hair! No! Paint, ban and shave! That's not the guy you want for that so... And perhaps that is the biggest problem is that Because we know that Epstein, you know. Oh he's intelligence You know That's what the what was said during his early prosecution. He's intelligence. He belongs to intelligence Everyone thinks CIA now I think British Intelligence then how close is British Intelligence and naval intelligence? I don't know this just smells of something different

CHAPTER 29 / 47 Discussion

Podcast Independence, Audience Criticism

The hosts address criticism from listeners who accuse them of being "captured" or biased because they do not align with other popular "America First" podcasts. They emphasize their commitment to independent media deconstruction and their refusal to participate in the "log-rolling" culture of the broader podcasting industry.

podcasting· audience feedback· independence· media analysis· chomsky

1:53:32 Sources and methods. I don't know, but I think the whole smokescreen... Yeah? I'm just thinking offhand that Bannon meeting up with Epstein supposedly as a media consultant is really a debriefing. Ooh yeah there you go debriefing yes! Wow! You know it makes things exciting though that's for sure We're the only ones doing this Everyone else is mad just mad You know, I'm stunned that we don't have better support. No this is... We had a look at it as we get into it. This is the place! I do have a report from about the Albany meetup. Why don't we do that now man? It's a good time for but yes when it comes to support and not just financially but just philosophically people are just there people who just hate us

1:54:34 hate us for not being on the same firing line as the other podcasts. We have always just spoken our own mind and people can't believe it when they disagree with us or our opinion, and then we're captured, we're on the take... But nobody can identify who captured us? Well, Jews! Hello?! That's obvious. Hey, with that I want to thank you for your courtesy in the morning. To you the man who put the C in Chomsky on an airplane say hello to my friend on the other end The one and only Mr. John Cena!

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Value for Value, Modern Podcast Apps

The "Value for Value" funding model is highlighted as the foundation of the show's 18-year independence. Listeners are encouraged to use modern podcasting apps like Podverse, Fountain, and Podcast Guru, which allow for direct donations and "boosts" using Bitcoin Satoshis during live broadcasts.

value for value· podverse· fountain· podcasting 2.0· sats

1:55:11 We have zero. Zero listeners. It seems unlikely since they've been cueing you more than once here today No one has cued me at all today I'm honest about that No, there's exactly zero. It literally said troll count 0 listener count zeros. Oh wait, oh wait Darren O has 1880 thank you Darren okay Darin somehow got the numbers I trust I trust Darren 1889 okay it is too low why is what it is that there was again has been some problems with the with the troll room and see void zero sent me some message during the show that

1:56:09 There's something, something broke. I don't know It is what it is. It's amazing any of this stuff works at all Yeah, I have to agree To be honest Anyway Those trolls are listening live They're listening to us through noagendastream.com and they may even be, if they're smart they may be listening on one of those modern podcast apps podcastapps.com where you get alerted when we go live or any of the No Agenda streams and in fact any podcasts can do this. Any podcast can go live And these modern podcast apps, if you're listening right now in Podverse or Fountain or Podcast Guru or True Fans. You'll see a little donate button so you can literally while you're listening hit that button and it goes straight to our donation page Bob's your uncle boom done! You could even boost us if you have enough sats in your wallet then it shows up in our strike account So we are very modern show here We are really doing some cool things value for value

CHAPTER 31 / 47 Discussion

Tea Party History, Divide and Conquer Tactics

A retrospective on the Tea Party movement examines how it was allegedly co-opted and destroyed from within by establishment figures like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann. The hosts compare this to the current "America First" vs. "MAGA" schism, suggesting it is a classic British "divide and conquer" strategy intended to influence the 2026 midterm elections.

tea party· ron paul· sarah palin· midterms· republican party

1:57:09 It's kept us straight and honest and on the right path for 18 years. It's always a roller coaster, particularly when big issues come around I don't think I've ever quite seen it like this though where there's just so much vitriol out There's a lot more podcasts You know in every we don't go on enough other podcasts mean to go on everyone else's podcast Well, I find that disgusting What do you find disgusting? I mean, I'll do it but I don't because I see these podcasters and they're... Tucker's on this guy's podcast and he's on Tucker's podcast. This is the log rolling kind of thing And they're all of the same... The America first people are the worst Yeah This is..and by the way Fuentes has you know He has this even have a hat

1:57:59 Oh, he has America First hat? Yeah and they're blue. Merch! The merch it's a blue hat instead of red and it says America first is to counter the MAGA hat yeah so this phony baloney schism which by the way was mentioned in those BBC reports we played...the schism between America First and MAGA is bogus It's only on podcast. It's probably... And it's on podcast, yeah! Well the BBC brought it up I'd say it's about a million people who are aware of it and probably 300 thousand who really care that's what I'm thinking That's pretty generous Maybe

1:58:39 But you know, Megan Kelly's doing her... we need to do an arena tour. Well Megan Kelly, Candice Tucker, Fuentes and maybe two or three others Dave Smith perhaps a couple others are all on this America first bandwagon yeah And they're all blowing each other Yeah, we need to get in on that game. And so they're going from their podcast to this podcast and then they're talking about it. They not only doing that they are talking about each other... I know! On one side of the fence and then they talk about the other side of the fence which has got Trump But see this is what happens is that's why and I think

1:59:21 Part of what we're seeing before unfolding before us is they have to keep moving to new topics Because at a certain point people burn out on the Israel thing And it has moved this move from the Israel thing to the back to the Epstein thing and then it'll move to foreign wars and there's kind of a It's a circular thing goes around then around them around in Iraq, and it is one of the oldest in the British playbook is divide and conquer. It kind of happened to the Tea Party, you remember the Tea Party?

2:00:00 They kicked him out. Ron Paul was the first thing, he was the first one to go. He kicked to the curb immediately and I loved Ron Paul! Do you remember that this is during the era of the show? Do you remember when they had one of the first CPAC meetings and that's when the Tea Party was getting very prominent before they kick Ron Paul out and they did a straw poll on who should be president and Ron Paul beat them all by by a large margin. Yeah, and all of sudden Tea Party was taken over by somebody else who took over the tea party? It was that there's one of these Texas congressmen is you know the Texas is loaded with these two faced Republicans who seem like... No kidding! Yeah if you're there yeah more than I know

2:00:44 And was a let me see who took over I can't remember that one guy's name but he and there is then some people from the Northeast also grabbed part of it and the whole thing was destroyed by the from inside out from co-option very standard way of doing it. Ron Paul pretty much says the Republican Party took over but I, it was a certain people It was just a group the old line the RINOs I wouldn't call them they're not really RINO's Wait wait didn't they get taken over by Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman? No no that day came later there was a male in particular who

2:01:21 Started to dominate the tea party thing we'd have to we can do I get will look into it later It's kind of boring Yeah, but the fact is is that this sort of thing is what this divide and conquer in this America first thing. It's part of that It's yeah, it's part of that same same system and that's why you know half these guys are all bitching about I mean they were all they're all in line with complaining about Israel And they're all in line about now complaining about Trump. They all have issues because Trump promised us He promised other guys been an office for less than a year hmm And he supposed to have done this and that Fuentes hates him

2:01:57 Right, but this is all about the midterms. It's all about the true control which will be the House and Senate. My prediction is that Democrats will flip the House, they'll get to House, impeach Trump immediately and what are they going to impeach him on? The Venezuelan boats! That's why it pops up as legal thing. Interesting... Well, that would suck. Yeah because they're just screw everything up and you're going to be back on track to nothing. Nothing we do it We just play those clips from the from the previous two impeachments same stuff. It's yeah Just a waste of time So I'm asking the AIs

CHAPTER 32 / 47 Discussion

SALT Deduction, Mortgage Interest Correction

A correction was issued regarding the deductibility of mortgage interest and the State and Local Tax (SALT) deduction. While the 2017 tax bill limited SALT deductions to $10,000, mortgage interest remains deductible for loans up to $750,000 according to IRS Publication 936, contradicting a previous claim that the limit was $1 million.

salt deduction· mortgage interest· irs· publication 936· tax law

2:02:49 And it does see Sarah Palin is mentioned continuously as... No, she got involved. She was no doubt about that. All of a sudden she's a Tea Party person Yes That was the 2010 National Tea Party Convention in Nashville and that's when it all fell apart for Ron Paul Ted Cruz Michelle Bachmann Now there's one guy whose name is mentioned, I can jump up and down. Anyway... Hey! Time, talent and treasure is how Value for Value works and the only way that we have continued on this merry journey for you podcast enthusiasts out there is by your support And one of the ways you can support us is by helping us create AI Slop for the show We have a great addition to our musical coming up End Of Show Slop

2:03:44 And Darren O'Neill did the artwork for us, which was all AI of course. Darren knows what he's doing this was the octagon... I don't know if this was a... you don't have to use A.I for this simple joke No, he used A.I Well actually, looking at it, maybe... and by the way as a mea culpa Yes The stop sign is not six-sided It's eight sides We kept saying six sided Well that's because the producer said six sides Yeah and then we fell in line I also got another mea culpa for us from the Archduke of Central Florida. He says, a comment for you on show 1860 and after the first break you were talking about the 50-year mortgage during that discussion you talked about deductibility of interest for income tax purposes. You suggested there was limitation on the amount of interest that could be deducted in 2017. The 2017 tax bill limited this SALT state and local income taxes

2:04:38 deduction to $10,000 raised it to $40,000. The big beautiful bill this limitation only relates the state and local taxes income and sales property and sales taxed property has nothing to do with interest the only limitation on interest deductibility relates to interest on mortgages that are more than 1 million dollars I looked this up and i would recommend people go to publication 936. Oh, 936 everybody! And it discusses in the number they have there is not 1 million but 750 thousand So I don't know, but publication 936 of 2024 Home Mortgage and Interest Deduction explains this. And yes we're probably wrong yeah and we do not give tax advice on the show it's all just that we just talk he also said not trying to be critical No! We can tell the difference. These corrections are noted. We can tell the difference. And researched

CHAPTER 33 / 47 Discussion

History of the Stop Sign, Yellow Signs

A detailed listener contribution explored the history of the stop sign, noting that the original signs were yellow until the mid-20th century. The report mentioned that some towns in Indiana maintained yellow signs into the 1980s and discussed rare variations, such as blue stop signs used at railroad crossings.

stop sign· indiana· traffic safety· history· railroad crossing

2:05:38 So he has to explain publication 936 to me. The things that get my goat is when they say, as a Christian I don't feel you were really contributing to the kingdom with that conversation. Oh yeah... Yeah well that would be mostly- That gets my goat! Yes it should. Okay everybody out there, do you have your marching orders? You know what gets his goat?! Thanks! There is John being mean to me Mean so Darren did the the no agenda stop sign which should immediately remind you to donate Oh, I got another note from about the stop sign one of our producers went on and on with a long exposition Which is so good. I'm gonna probably put it in a newsletter or I may put it online somehow yeah Summarize yes, the original stop signs were yellow oh

2:06:33 And there's a number of, in fact most of the stop signs were yellow until like at some point they started. In fact he's got... There was some town in Indiana that had yellow ones until like the 80s and then he pointed this out to the history of the stop sign was not always what it was and he says stop in a German stop sign too instead of halt. He thought that was weird. And there is also a blue stop sign that came and went, it was used in some sort of railroad crossings or something. It's a very interesting lecture. It was a long two-page lecture about stop signs. I recommend that this guy write a book the history of the stop sign and we will in fact give you little blurbs for your book yeah couldn't do the show without this book

2:07:25 Other artwork that was, now I like the sumo wrestler. You didn't like the sumo wrestler? I don't know why you have something about fat guys which is also a Darren O'Neill The other one we talked about... We thought Jeffrey Ria's poor African kids with Noah Jenna T-shirts was funny but even we didn't feel that was appropriate Yes, we did thought it was in bad taste Very bad taste There are lots of drone stuff, the lesbian report. I personally like Nessworks as a podcast enthusiast but the Stop Sign was just better and people try to do little cartoons you're overcomplicating it The art just has to be simple

CHAPTER 34 / 47 Discussion

AI Art Slop, Visual Styles in Media

The proliferation of "AI slop" in podcast artwork is discussed, focusing on the distinctive, often flawed visual styles produced by modern Large Language Models. The hosts critique specific pieces that blend cubism with "Spy vs. Spy" aesthetics, noting the frequent anatomical errors and nonsensical backgrounds common in generative imagery.

ai art· generative ai· cubism· spy versus spy· slop

2:08:11 You know, you've got Trump the Trump show hitting a red button. You're fired Kimmel then a guy gets shot out of a cannon doesn't even look like Kimmel looks like Colbert. You're making it too complicated just try to be simple right? It does look like Colbert. Yeah, it doesn't look like Kimmel at all. And they got the Trump show and then Dvorak and Curry down at the bottom. Yeah simple think simple and Jeffrey Ria is thinking too simply he's found a new model to use new LLM New generative AI and it's got this very distinctive Look kind of blockish what do you call that? You're the art major here What do you call that?

2:08:55 Like that's lockish look. Yeah, like the two spooks the Intel sharing he's got a couple of these I had to find one of these pieces you're talking about yeah if you roll down No agenda is Intel sharing they got two spooks handing each other classified document He has a couple he's done a couple of these this it's a style. It's a style I can't find it. It's a school of art, anyway. A lot of slop, tons of slop which is good because that'll help the model collapse even quicker

2:09:32 That'll do good. Hey, actually the Intel sharing thing is a kind of a variation of spy versus spy Yeah, but what's that art style? Yeah that our style there's a couple of different things going on here There is a it's like a combination of cubism efforts the background in the front is Something else yes a nabbaist or something. There's some other screwy thing going on here, but it's obviously in the LLM whatever it is and why is the guy armed going through the table? It's like his arm is like in through the table that the hard table there. It's called bad. It's just bad! Yeah, it's just bad. Just not good

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Albany Meetup Report, Donor Acknowledgments

The hosts acknowledge significant financial contributions from the "No Agenda" community, including several $333.33 donations from the recent Albany meetup. The segment highlights the diverse backgrounds of the "Gitmo Nation" producers and the personal connections fostered through local listener gatherings.

albany· meetup· value for value· donations· community

2:10:16 By the way, Rob, the constitutional lawyer says sorry. No U.S law is hard enough so we can't count him in from international law advice We will thank our executive and associate executive producers many of them showed up at the Albany meetup So John will be giving his little report and Of course including a note someone sent in complaining about me I'm excited We thank all of our financial supporters $50 and above will give their name or whatever you put on your payment details in your location And of course, we always like to thank people who are able to give us two hundred dollars or more? We in fact will read any note You send in within reason and we'll give you the title of associate executive producer Which is an official Hollywood credits. You can use that anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized including IMDB comm three hundred dollars or more and we will give you an executive

2:11:11 producer title and the same applies will read your note. And as always, the people who send in 300 or more have very short notes Commodore G comes in from Cincinnati Ohio he is a Commodore after all $343.75 I'm thinking that's 333 dot 33 with some fees added He says thank you for your courage and diligent work peace and long life Commodore G Thank You Commodore G Okay, let's start with the meetup money including starting with Sir Lawrence of dystopia. He's in Oakland You actually didn't write a short note I will try to distill it It looks like it was typed and it looks like the ribbon is going so that's just an advance warning

2:11:59 This is from Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, Baronet of Maxwell Park. He becomes a baron today by the way. Kilo Osco six echo Juliet Echo 73s so he's ham I hope this finds you well! I want to convey how much i love the tip of the day The grandma secret spot remover and we go lever nuts come to mind. I use that we go lever nuts on my elevators It makes, I don't know what he's referring to but it makes a huge difference when a previous mechanic has shoved the bunch of wires into a terminal and is barely holding together. Yes we all have done that

2:12:45 With the Wego lever nuts, I can put however many wires into one Wego. The proffer goes on. Lastly after becoming a baronet after John's birthday extravaganza, I realize that now I'm a Baron accounting below and actually like to be Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, Baron of Maxwell Park thank you for your attention to this important matter. Nice! Adios mofos he finishes The next two are notes that you have, so you might as well read those too. Dame Audra? These are from the meetup again. It's a reason we have a slew of them and Jay put it all together. Dame Audra and I... This is from Dame Audra of Legoland and Dr Donne And this is $333.33 And this is a nice short note. Dame Audra and I love giving and receiving

2:13:43 Dramatic pause. Value for value! Oh, I was fooled for a moment Kindest regards Thank you Onward with the Ross Johnson and Eugene Oregon Wait no sir how about Sir Chris and Dame Kristen? No i'm sorry Sir Chris and Dame Kristen Yes 333-33 This is on a card You can tell by the noise In the morning, thanks for all the great media deconstruction twice a week. We never miss the show this is our first meetup! Oh nice But hopefully not our last All the best to you and only the end

2:14:21 and the entire No Agenda back office. Cheers, Sir Chris and Dame Kristen Carmel. I'll pick up with Ross Johnson from Eugene Oregon $333.33. I really appreciate a criticism with a donation so thank you because this is very critical of me Adam is editorializing America away from home I'm not quite sure what that means. You're in Texas! His newfound Catholicism sucks Wow, here we have the Gel-er... whatever that thing's called. Gelman amnesia. Gelmand yeah. I am NOT a Catholic Not at all Believe me his new found Catholicism sucks because we never talk about home truths anymore

2:15:15 I understand hand-picking sides is impossible for Adam. Why don't we get US media deconstruction anymore? I'm a knight." I'm a little baffled by this, uh...I'm not quite sure. I have no idea Is that because I play clips from abroad? Is that the reason why? Well, I do too! Yeah but we also play U.S. clips we deconstruct. He makes it sound as though you're in England or Holland, maybe he's only listened to one show and you're a Catholic, like a Catholic from France and your bitching about the Americas! Those Americans!! That's what it sounds like yeah in a bit yeah well thank you Ross again any criticism accompanied by donation is

2:16:02 Yeah, we're good. Love that is my favorite type of value for value. Complain more! Yes Dame Shelley in Grand Forks North Dakota 333 dot 33 you got me with the puppies Dame Shelley good Then we go to Surrounded by My Privilege, Milwaukee Wisconsin 333. This is a Jew money donation on behalf of BBM the Cabal! There's our Jew money. Our tally for Jew money is pretty low sub-a thousand. Keep up the good work gents! Yeah the Muslims are beating the Jews

2:16:40 Yes, oh by a long shot. By a long shot and then he accompanied a clip And he says please play you choked Oh and if you want to follow by two to the head didn't realize she wanted that Okay, and he sent this in you choked Okay, that must have been a bet of some kind. I'm not sure pretty extreme yes okay thank you very much surrounded by my privilege now we go to Gus Cornell in Nevada City California out of the note Gus came down from Nevada City please accept this first-time donation on behalf of my wife this is a switcheroo oh okay for Leora L E O R A Coronell's COR

2:17:34 Oh, and I yell Leora. L-E-O-R-A. Leora. Yes done got it in the switch. She hit me in the mouth during cold. Yeah, I talked to him about this she hit me in the mouth during COVID and our relationship has never been better In fact, he came up to me later. We and I'll finish the note we love the show and have never had a fight Thank you for all you do no jingles no karma He came up to me said he'd said literally that our show saved his marriage Wow

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Listener Feedback, Personal Anecdotes

A series of listener notes are read, ranging from humorous requests for voice impressions to critiques of the show's content. Topics include the use of TikTok clips, the "Gell-Man Amnesia" effect in media consumption, and the personal dynamics between the hosts and their audience.

listener mail· feedback· tiktok· christianity· gell-man amnesia

2:21:24 To my brother's amazement, Photo Expert converted and copied the selected 140 movies in just a few minutes to a USB drive connected to her iPhone. I'd like to continue to support the best podcast in universe. To make that possible, I need some installs and reviews of my Photo Expert to continue! So please if you have an iPhone or iPad... What does he do for Android? Nah, and you know somebody who does install photo export today You can find it on the Apple App Store. And finally a big thank you to everybody who has already installed photo expert Scott Johnson and Kasumi Doing cross-platform Android and iOS is very hard Yeah, I know we have an app that's we haven't called it's called work. Yeah, I

2:22:15 We have an app, Godcaster app. Very hard to do so it's difficult Hey there Sir Hebe of Hogtown I wonder if this is also Jew money from Alchua, Florida $200.66 Adam let's pretend it is 1989 and I have a dial MTV-esque request but instead of Guns N' Roses or Def Leppard in your best Mark Rutte voice please say Swapping out Biden is not an option! And It's too risky to vote third party in New York State This is a little ode to my fri- we'll do anything for money. This is a little ode to my friend Christine who I punched in the mouth a few months back, she married into a family of insufferable elitist libs and this sort of humor is all that's keeping her from climbing... from climbing a clock tower! I'd also like to do the switcharoo for her so please credit this donation to her, Christine Bonus. Asim Aleichem my brothers, Sir Hebe of Hogtown Well I'm very confused now

2:23:19 Is this Jew money or Muslim money? It's confusing. So Christine bonus for the switcheroo, you got it. You got it. Linda Lou Patkin Lakewood Colorado 200 bucks jobs coming for competitive edge she writes with a resume that gets results go to image makers Inc comfor all your executive resume and job search needs That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K and work with Linda Liu, she is the Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! Duke Slam Bob, Rolling Knight of Guadalupe. As we say in Texas $200 associate executive producer and he says sirs I ask what is the outro music? It sounds like Coltrane drives me nuts! I can't find it cuz I loves me some Adam music thanks to JCD for all you do was lost a bit but thanks to no agenda now...I am Duke Slambomb rolling knight of Guadalupe

2:24:25 It is the, I can tell you what it is. It's called... where's the file here? The Marriott Jazz Quintet and the title of the music is On The Seventh Day and we've been using that for forever I think Yeah I think so because it was one of the pod three or whatever he had it called website of pod free, royalty-free podcast stuff. Whatever. Yeah and now that I just did that something oh hold on a second this is it here that's the one...I don't think I know if that was yeah there was uh The Pod Save Music Network that's what you're talking about? Yes that's right Hey! There's Brian and Suzy from Liberty, Maine This is

2:25:11 This is Brian and I had a back-and-forth, and yeah. I was very hurt by his comments And so he donated which thank you brother. I love it. What did he say to you that hurt your feelings? It was about He was the one that started off with you know as a Christian But it would get one of those notes well no but it was really more about Us using Heather and Brett to explain Gell-Man amnesia. And then after this back and forth, you know he was kind of like a don't shoot inside the tent kind of guy? And then after some back and forth it turns out that the thing that really irked him is what YOU said at the end of that whole segment! And what was it I said? You said, why are you even listening to that crap?!

2:26:02 How can you listen? Bobot, Brett and Heather. Yeah! Why are you listening to that crap?! You never answered it! Because I said that I like them and that I like their show And then... So what happens is people associate me with your horrible takes Yeah well its not a horrible take its an accurate take Its on the money Well but this is it so Im like... I was really deflated by it I was, you know. You don't have my life! I have to take all the crap whatever secret sauce you have that everyone complains about me besides the fact that you don't have a phone that operates and your email blocks everybody. No actually it does operate but they just keep in the drawer And even if they could get through your email filters They can't spell your name and it goes to john at Dvorak dot com ten times out of ten

2:26:55 You know, it's like... It's dot org people. Or it's like I couldn't find John's email address. You know, yeah I'm not gonna be no. Yeah these are all your tricks so you know my tricks it's my mind tricks These are not the drones you're looking for in and it's it's very discouraging to me You know brings me down because people always complaining about things you say To me yeah And sometimes they'll send that some place see you emailed the wrong guy And then they'll email back. Yeah, it wasn't a while you just... yeah but you're very kirked with the people that do that Because its... it deflates me

2:27:36 From Brian and Susie in Liberty, Maine. Adam love you brother! Love you too John save for the TikTok clips which are like seeing a dead deer on the road kind of sad and a definite waste of resources no jingles no karma well see this guy's no good I've known this guy...I've stayed at his house This guy is very good he's a very very cool dude Well if he was he would like to take talk clips better That is nice to me. I could be wrong. I never say this house do not have a shacked up with the guy So, what don't know? I don't measure people by whether they like tick-tock clips or not Anonymous is last on the list Turn 79 on November 4th gentlemen. I really enjoyed the show continue the great work That's a $200 donation from an honor and I do have some meetup stuff if you want to do that now People came to the meetup are you kidding me let's honor them

CHAPTER 37 / 47 Discussion

Meetup Collectibles, Fort Detrick Letterhead

At a recent meetup, a listener gifted an original piece of letterhead from the Biological Warfare Lab at Fort Detrick, Maryland, dating back to the 1940s or 50s. Other gifts included Nebraska T-bone steaks and a silver coin with an Indian head design, while news was shared about "Texas Slim" signing an agricultural agreement in El Salvador.

fort detrick· biological warfare· letterhead· texas slim· el salvador

2:28:30 Okay, I'm gonna start before. I read the notes with I don't like to read the no something There's some credits here for this for the meat it for the money that is like for example Tim and Suzy Landreth from The Landrith Landreth something and cattle. It's a cattle ranch up in Nebraska They came we were out here decided to come into the meetup didn't come here for the meet-up He made that clear, but he did drop off some T bones from Nebraska never frozen nice you know in a container with it with them with the cold source in there and I saw I got some meat by the way that reminds me of

2:29:09 Texas Slim just signed a big agreement with the El Salvadorian Ministry of Agriculture. What does that mean? I don't know, but there's a picture of Texas Slim and the Minister of Agriculture in El Salvador... I guess he is promoting beef! in El Salvador. Anytime Texas Slim gets some positive news, I'm happy for him. He seems like a good guy. He's very good dude. Now we have John Lake and Santa Cruz came in with 100 bucks but his real kicker which everybody who saw it said this you know all were aghast

2:29:49 He had, and I have it now. He was thinking of giving me a copy but he decided to give me the original. This is letterhead paper which I could probably type a note on. Letterhead paper from...it looks like the 40s or 50s it's really like an old piece of paper but with letterhead, official government letterhead. Okay what kind of government? What is on the letterhead? Biological Warfare Lab, Fort Detrick Maryland. Wow! That's cool Yeah yeah you gotta see what you see oh how about this? You should type in there you know make it look a little do it on your old Corona typewriter keep under wraps the deer ticks are bad

2:30:38 Yes, we should talk about that in the show sometime. Anyway I want to thank him for the... That was a lot of trouble to do that he came with $100 on top of it but this letterhead is just dynamite It's total collectible and now I need the pirate flag That's the way to John's heart With a collectible 150 bucks from Charlotte Worcester She comes in she's out of San Francisco And then we have a Gen X donation. It says very carefully, it's from Ricalstin Steve our buddy. Crazy Steve. So Ricalston crazy Steve? Crazy Steve yeah he was there of course and so also I got a toy ounce i think it's from the Duke of San Francisco he never leaves a note or anything just drops off a coin silver

2:31:29 Yeah, but it's not the noise. I said one of the ones that's got the Indian head on is a beautiful piece of work another collectible Well, you know announce then I got this from This is Sufina or Shufi English who wrote this very nice note and she was there and she was what seems like a great looking gal, I would say. She's probably...I don't know you couldn't tell her age she could have been between 45 and 55 or so but she's one of these people the note came in she dropped off it was only 50 but

2:32:04 She dropped off a note that is on Queen Mary 2, the boat's letterhead. Wow! Nice And she's one of those people I mean this type don't like to generalize but i will because I always do it you look at her and she looks like one of these people that are travelers that have been everywhere because her style and everything is not European, it's international. And you just she just pushed that out as she just she's obviously been around the world even though

2:32:41 You know, it's sometimes a tough go with value for value and people are yelling at me on X about you. We do have some of the most interesting people in the entire universe who are in Gitmo Nation I'm never ceased to be amazed by the talents and experience that some people have That many people have It just...I feel better already $100 last on this list here is from Jobs Karma. You can do that if you want, this for Giacomo out of Crockett California. Yeah well yes there's a note yeah the note just says

CHAPTER 38 / 47 Discussion

John Dvorak Meetup Behavior, Recluse Allegations

A listener's report from a Berkeley meetup described John Dvorak as a "recluse" who sat in a corner and did not address the crowd. Dvorak defended his behavior, explaining that he is naturally shy and was engaged in conversation with specific attendees, while also addressing a "bone of contention" regarding a sealed jar of Costco cashews left on his table.

john dvorak· berkeley· meetup· social behavior· cashews

2:33:23 from sir you know just $100 the jobs karma please thank you for four more years. You show up to a meetup, you get it! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! That's the basic over $50 from in fact that was it there was nothing under $50. It's kind of screwy Well, thank you all very much those you went to the meetup and got John out of the house I haven't seen pictures. I'd love to see some pictures people send me Yeah, luckily there was no pictures taken but I do have this note which I believe are the point extra notes Yes This is sir John

2:34:00 One of the guys that showed up for the first time, he says his son of Jupiter reveals no agenda meetup in Berkeley. This guy's from someplace else and this was sent to Jay from Stephen. And he goes there was one and only John C DeVore had the OC in the Berkeley Meet-Up hosted by Steve was an absolute blast. There were about 40 people there And so he goes on and on and on in discussion, but no note would be complete without mentioning the man of the hour Dvorak. I'd like to say we all had a great time... this is gonna be a bone of contention by the way We had a great time meeting John but from my perspective He seemed to be a recluse

2:34:43 Sitting in a corner of the table, A table. It was it wasn't the middle of everything but okay Yeah But to my knowledge he didn't say anything To the crowd or thank the listeners Oh you have to stand up and do a speech You don't do that at your meetups like Hello everybody I'm John This is a public bar hello Because I've seen people do this in public bars and what do you say when, what do you think to yourself when you see this? You go who is this asshole. What people don't know is that John is actually quite shy. Yeah that's right! It's okay for me to say that John is actually quite shy. Shy I think is the right term. Your not a recluse your not introverted your a little shy. Well im not gregarious as I could be So really girls you gotta go

2:35:37 cozy up to him. He seemed to be a recluse, sitting in the corner of the room safely away from everybody and he goes on and says... And talking to his son now I will tell you this I was sitting next to actually Matt the Inventor was there with his I would say gorgeous tall Fiancee girlfriend Paige I was talking to her now. She doesn't look like my son, I can assure you oh yeah If you want to get John talk and bring bring a hot-looking woman then then JC will talk for hours

2:36:17 that JC, my son wasn't even at the meetup. No details! So I have no idea what this guy's talking about and why wasn't JC there? This is an outrage He has something to do with it. There was no desire to get a meetup report with John or even a group of photos Nobody asked if I had been I've had my photo taken at these meetings quite a few times Yeah, I don't like it Additionally, I noticed that John had a Costco-sized jar of cashews which one of our blind knight dropped off saying it might be a good tip of the day and i was going to distribute these and have people describe them but it was sealed so I didn't want to open the seal. On the table someone might have gifted them to him of course but they weren't being offered out to anyone." Oh this is an outrage you weren't sharing your bounty

2:37:09 Then after two hours, that says I was there that long. I overheard while he was leaving that John wasn't feeling well. I don't know where you heard that from If that's the case please disregard this message above okay? I hope you feel better So this is a mismatch of reality. Now you're ever the only thing wrong with this note Is it wasn't sent to me that it was my fault otherwise perfect no surprise It wasn't to me actually Thank you to these executive and associate executive producers and to the producers who came to the meetup to get John out Of the house that is highly appreciated, it's good for him too We'll be thanking the rest of our supporters $50 in above remember You can always support us And you should

CHAPTER 39 / 47 Discussion

Alpha-Gal Syndrome, Lone Star Tick Fatality

A 47-year-old New Jersey man became the first known fatality from Alpha-Gal syndrome, a severe meat allergy triggered by the bite of a Lone Star tick. The condition causes a hypersensitivity to a carbohydrate found in mammalian meat, and researchers at the University of Virginia confirmed the diagnosis after the man's death following the consumption of a hamburger.

alpha-gal syndrome· lone star tick· meat allergy· new jersey· university of virginia

2:37:53 because we do this as a public service and it's your job to keep the public service going. Noagendadonations.com you can go there, you can give us any amount anytime you feel like it that's how value for value works You get something out of it that is of value to you send it back Value! noagendedonations.com Congratulations to the executive and associate executive producers Our formula is this We go out, we hit people in the mouth So we were talking about it, we might as well bring in the Alpha-Gal Syndrome. This is the lone star tick that has now claimed its first victim We have a dead person from Alpha-Gal syndrome However! The reason for this is not some bio lab in Maryland or maybe even

2:38:55 What was that, what's the name of that? Fort Detrick. No no, Fort Detrick but then Plum Island in New York! No no the reason for this scourge is something you might not expect This morning a New Jersey man is the first known person to die after a tick bite triggered a severe meat allergy This is really something that should be aware of and physicians should be aware of. The 47 year old went camping with his family in 2024 and got violently ill after eating a steak he recovered but two weeks later, he ate a hamburger and again got very sick then died.

2:39:32 The autopsy said his death was unexplained. Then, his wife had his blood tested at the University of Virginia where researchers determined he had an allergy called Alpha-Gal syndrome caused by the bite of the Lone Star tick. people develop a hypersensitivity or an allergy to this carbohydrate that is found in animal meat and what triggers this hypersensitivity or this allergy so-to-speak, it's a bite from the Lone Star tick. Lone Star ticks are mainly found in the Northeast South and Midwest they have a white dot or lone star on their back

2:40:11 Tick populations in general have been on the rise and are spreading to more of the US. One factor, climate change. I would like somebody to explain to me how this works okay that's I want somebody to explain there must be some expert out there what how does this happen This is the screwiest thing I've ever heard. By the way, you get this disease or syndrome or whatever you want to call it condition where you're allergic to this carb or some protein of all mammalians if you eat possum you're gonna get sick if you eat beef you're gonna get anything that's a... Well because alpha-gal also includes... Oh no wait a minute! Wait

2:41:03 Possums are marsupials. I'm not sure you would get sick from possum meat Oh, well then that's only mammalian meat it said that's a bonus alpha-gal beaver Yeah, you're fine and heaven forbid we've all done that I'm sorry Wow wow very low brow very low now That was terrible. I wasn't present You know what if it had been presented with the best Marty level that was lowbrow no well Yeah, it was. Maybe... It was just not- it was uncalled for The point is that mammalian meat What? This makes no sense to me A tick bite and the next thing you know You can't eat, y'know, uh, you could eat mice I guess We've already been through this Alpha-gal is included in some vaccines And I'm pretty sure that's from the vaccines I mean, I'm not a doctor So I'm just guessing ultimately Well that brings me to this clip Uh huh

CHAPTER 40 / 47 Discussion

Pakistan Diabetes Crisis, BBC Report

The BBC World Service reported on a burgeoning diabetes crisis in Pakistan, fueled by rapid urbanization and the consumption of processed foods high in refined sugars. The report highlighted a lack of health literacy and the sedentary lifestyles of children as primary drivers of the epidemic, which is stretching the country's public hospital system.

pakistan· diabetes· bbc world service· urbanization· processed foods

2:42:02 Because this irks me too, about... This is Pakistan diabetes. Okay here we go. This is the BBC World Service with Lubna Care exploring Pakistan's diabetes crisis. Was this while you were asleep? This clip got recorded from the BBC World Service! I'm a British Pakistani pharmacist and also an actor, writer and comedian. In Pakistan diabetes isn't just the medical condition it's a national crisis. There is lack of awareness there is low health literacy public hospitals are stretched. Pakistan's diabetes surge is fueled by urbanization processed foods high in refined sugars and increasingly sedentary lifestyles. I had a client eight years old and he used to

2:42:48 Play cricket on the tab. He doesn't know that he can play that cricket outside in the ground If this is not addressed, then this will be a crisis beyond what we can imagine over the next decade Diabetes in Pakistan A Nation's Struggle Another riveting BBC World Report So... We now know they're having an epidemic of diabetes in Pakistan and we have diabetes like two-thirds of the public here Why can't they fix this issue? Is it just refined sugars? Ban them! We have a health system that's supposed to, you know... why don't we just make it illegal?!

2:43:28 Find out what's causing it. You know, it's happening here is happening there Why is it happening in Pakistan because the sedentary lifestyle all of a sudden? It doesn't make a lot of sense But then they blame it on sugars or processed food bet make them illegal Why can't they do that they don't want to do it and at this same thing with this alpha gal figure out well This makes no sense that this disease exists It's the stupidest disease you can imagine for my wife whether with their wheat thing she can eat anything That's from any grains now Yeah, that's a weird one and it sucks. You can't even take her out anymore But it saves, it's good for the budget. Yeah but this is not fun for her! No well she has to find places where they're very careful It's the point... This is how bad it is and this is all these things by the way Not just this wheat deal You know they find that if somebody cut bread on one of those slicers Really? Just that alone?! Right at the granular level Wow A crumb And so

CHAPTER 41 / 47 Discussion

Hepatitis B Vaccine Schedule, Bill Cassidy Interview

Senator Bill Cassidy defended the current Hepatitis B vaccine schedule for infants on CBS "Face the Nation," arguing that recommendations have drastically reduced infection rates over the last two decades. Cassidy expressed concern over potential changes to vaccine ingredient oversight by the new administration, while moderator Margaret Brennan questioned his prior endorsement of health officials.

bill cassidy· hepatitis b· vaccines· robert f. kennedy jr· margaret brennan

2:44:34 But it's the same thing with these other problems that humans have. And it makes no sense that they can't just do an analysis and say, well this is what's causing it, this is what you can do to correct it now we're good to go! They don't bother! Well because diabetes is profitable I mean obviously Oh yeah its a money maker Yeah The reason of course is... They are eating the dogs That where all comes from Stop eating the dogs Well, then you'll love this little ditty from CBS F the Nation with Senator Bill Cassidy. This is another one you'll gripe about Secretary Kennedy has this hand-picked panel of vaccine advisors that you know them at ASIP they're gonna meet in a few days and potentially vote on changing the hepatitis B vaccine schedule for infants

2:45:30 That same vaccine advisory group is also considering the safety of vaccine ingredients like aluminum, which would impact a number of childhood shots. This should matter for American parents. Are you comfortable with what they are about to put to a vote? I'm very concerned about this. As it turns out, my medical practice focused on hepatitis B and so we know that because of a recommended dose at birth of hepatitis B vaccine recommended not mandated the number children born contracting hepatitis B at birth or shortly thereafter has decreased from about 20 thousand twenty years ago to like 200 now That's 20 thou... effectively a clerical error We have decreased Hold on a second He said the number of children born

2:46:18 which is before they get the hepatitis B vaccine. Oh, let me listen to that again... And so we know that because of a recommended dose at birth of hepatitis B vaccine, recommended not mandated. The number of children born contracting hepatitis B at birth or shortly thereafter has decreased from about 20,000 20 years ago to like 200 now. That's effectively a clerical error. We have decreased the incidence of chronic hepatitis B by 20,000 people over the last two decades with this kind of recommendation And by the way, if you're infected at birth you're more likely to have 95%...

2:46:55 likely to become a chronic carrier. The vaccine is safe, it has been established and these ingredients they're speaking of have been shown to be safe this is policy by people who don't understand the epidemiology of hepatitis B or who've grown comfortable with the fact that we've been so successful with our recommendation that now the incidence of hepatitis B is so low they feel like we can rest on our laurels I'm a doctor I have seen people die from vaccine-preventable disease. I want people to be healthy, I wanna make America healthy and you don't start by stopping recommendations that have made us substantially healthier. Alright how do you feel about that?

2:47:34 This guy has been a, this guy is the stooge for the vaccine industry. He's always throwing out I'm a doctor and then he goes on and on condemns everyone. He's the one who threatened Kennedy. He says you have to promise me that you won't do this or that it was always about vaccines. This guys' a vaccine nut! Here's Margaret Brennan asking if she regrets endorsing him. But that's why clarifying these statements I think is important since you interpret them differently, um i wonder do you regret your confirmation vote for Secretary Kennedy? I smile because every reporter asked me that well because these questions run right into a pledge that you extracted from him not to

2:48:23 tinker with some of the structures that were set in place to have oversight of these vaccines and this process. So you live life forward, again you just do. Let today's own troubles be sufficient for the day and I'll credit the Secretary he has brought attention to things like ultra processed food that is frankly never received this sort of attention before and people praise him for that so he and i have publicly disagreed on some matters but I strongly agree with him on others and so um...so that's how I answer your question. That sounds like yes No, it doesn't sound like yes at all. She's terrible. There she is. Is she even a journalist of any sort? She's the worst I have a couple of used to be on the today show or the morning showed him Sunday over your CBS or NBC. I can't remember which one but she was always, it was the CBS show and she has to be one of the hosts there and every time Trump's name would, she's a pretty woman

2:49:25 And she, but she's got the world. She really looks...she makes herself look ugly by scowling and she would always scowl and when somebody mentioned Trump or the Republicans we mention Republicans, she'd scowl. Yes. And then when I saw her during the COVID era, I mentioned this on the show, she was in our house Yeah. When someone interviewed And I didn't realize it, she had a hair band on the hair thing over the top of her head. She was a dead ringer for Hillary! A younger Hillary! Oh that's right! She is a Hillary Clinton clone Yeah...that's right. But she did look kinda cute with the hairband

CHAPTER 42 / 47 Discussion

Stella Foster AI, Senior Citizen Chatbots

Jacob Catalano, a former Snapchat designer, has launched "Stella Foster," an AI service specifically designed for senior citizens to combat loneliness. The service allows users to talk to the AI over the phone for $30 a month, though critics worry about the ethical implications of seniors becoming emotionally dependent on chatbots.

stella foster· artificial intelligence· seniors· snapchat· loneliness

2:50:02 She didn't. So I'm going to save my Margaret clips with the Secretary of the Army, which is about drones, which is fantastic little series because this is exactly what my insider from the Department of War told me what they were working on And it's all about, but it's like four clips and I'm looking at the time. And I think that we should probably get ready to go because there's still a tip of the day. We've got end-of-show mixes. But I did want to play one last clip as the AI industry has now gone lower than they could have ever gone. The lowest of the low

2:50:42 Once we've addicted people to these chatbots and we got kids, you know killing themselves over what the chatbot told them to do Here we go. These seniors are learning about artificial intelligence and interacting with it in a whole new way AI is the most accessible technology that's really ever been created Jacob Catalano, a former product designer at Snapchat has created a user-friendly AI service for seniors called Cella Foster She's not gonna judge you she's not gonna run out of time or lose patience I'm gonna go out today do i need a jacket? Or anything like that

2:51:18 Right now in Santa Monica, it's clear at about 60 degrees Fahrenheit. A light jacket might be a good idea." Unlike chatbots where you have to type in questions, Stella lets you call a phone number and talk to AI directly It can even remember details about you making interactions personalized So it opens up a whole new audience that might have been shut out from technology over the last decade You know, decades. Two decades. Humans talk and they text! And that's what AI is so if you can do that you can use AI. AI is very knowledgeable and you can use it to do better things in life I'm a writer and artist and I'll be using for my writing I'm sure. I think AI sounds great I think its something seniors could definitely use and benefit from

2:52:08 Stella Foster lets users chat for free on the phone for an hour each day. If you want more, it's $30 a month there are no limits on texting. Oh man this is so like they're so hard up for customers let's get the old people 30 bucks a month from your pension and you know these people gonna be on the phone with it the whole day oh yeah until it says you know what? You should probably just kill yourself Yeah, that's the problem with these AI systems. They're sick! They wind up telling you to kill yourself.

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Birthday Announcements, Peerage Elevations

The show concludes with a list of listener birthdays and the elevation of "Sir Lawrence of Dystopia" to the rank of Baron. The hosts thank the "Gitmo Nation" for their continued financial support and participation in the show's unique community structure.

birthdays· peerage· baron· gitmo nation· donations

2:52:55 We do have a few people to thank that they're above $50 today and we got a little more than last time, that's for sure. Which was the lowest ever and Adam will run through them. Was it really the lowest ever? It was the lowest ever but that was at the very end of the shutdown so we're hoping that our incredible. I have to attribute this to the shutdown, I think the shut down affected economy more than people like to imagine we thank Stamatina Hunter from Irving Texas for her $105 and 35 cents Brenda Forsade or Forcad

2:53:36 Poulsbo Washington $100 keep the great work. Thank you Lydia Terry Dominelli from Rochester, New Hampshire 100 and she is on the birthday list for today It's her birthday Steve Niles Santa Cruz California 95 87 birthday donation for Steve himself Kevin McLaughlin there he is from Concord North Carolina as you know He is The way doesn't even say that anymore just says Laos deo This is boob donation 8008 Praise be to God, inscribed at the top of the Washington Monument facing east towards the rising sun. Sir Richard Hufford in Tempe Arizona another boob donation thank you he says Adam and John for helping improve our quality of life James Mello Seattle Washington 7903 sir camera Chris Grafton Wisconsin blessings John Adams oh this is 7777

2:54:28 He switched teams from Lutheran to being confirmed into the Catholic faith to join my wife and kids. Love and light! Wes Stewart, Mesa Arizona 69-69 a classic Stephen Shoemake Zinnia Ohio he's on the list all the time 6480 Angela Wang Did you miss Scott Fuller? I might have. Scott Fuller, Cummings Georgia 7404 $20 and 26 farmers almanac donation plus 50 dollars plus fees Wow he's really up in the up in the ante there back to Angela Wang she says a Bitcoin donation for my daughter Nova her birthday is today November 16th You did Steven Shoemake? I did Zena Ohio yes thank

2:55:12 Thank you. Thank you for keeping me keep I have to do that Yes, you do and now I see how annoying I was to you She turns 14 today so a Bitcoin donation Les Tarkowski Kingman Arizona 60 oh six a small boob donations Scott van Gelder in Centerville Massachusetts 5798 James Edmondson, South Plainfield New Jersey 5510 double nickels on the dime. Double nickels on dime from Danielle Williams in Mount Shasta California birthday shout out to Peter Konowski happy 40th John Siebert Bitcoin donation and meetup donation for Albany fifty five thousand three hundred and thirty-three Satoshis

2:55:52 which is $5,335. 53-35 Palindrome Luke Minnell Los Angeles 52 72 that's 50 plus fees Charles Tracy Hickory North Carolina 52 72 Viscount sir economic hitman there he is from Tomball Texas 5001 Kevin Dills Huntersville North Carolina 50 these are all fifties then yeah Daniel De La Val He's from Victoria, Australia 50 Diane Schwannbeck Johnsburg Illinois easy landscapes North Stonington Connecticut Philip Baloo from Louisville Kentucky John Berry Hill in Loretto Tennessee Chris Levinsky sir Chris Lewinsky from Sherwood Park Alberta Canada Francis King Castle Rock Colorado and the last of our 50s Terrence Lynch from Savannah Georgia Thank you to all the supporters

2:56:43 of the best podcast in the universe. Of course, we thank everybody who came in under 50. We don't mention those to ensure anonymity but I see you 49 99s etc You can always set up a recurring donation It's very simple. You go to noagendadonations.com, you can support us with multiple ways PayPal with the Stripe you can also send a Bitcoin donation and as always consider setting up a recurring donation any amount any frequency NoAgendaDonations.com once again NoAgendaDonations.com It's a birthday, birthday! I'm so much younger... Anonymous turned 79 on November 4th. Sir Darius Unity wishes Princess Alia Nia Wiley Coyote a happy birthday Born on November 10th? Oh boy! A brand new Gitmo Nation resident And Sir Darius Unity also wishes his keeper AJ a happy birthday Celebrated yesterday on the 15th

2:57:40 Lydia Terry Dominelli, happy birthday to you today. Steve Niles turned 61 today Angela Wang happy birthday to her daughter Nova turns 14 years old today Sirloin medium rare and Arnie K5ARN wishes Christina a very happy birthday she turned 79 and Danielle Williams, which is Peter Karanowski. A happy one turning 40 years old! Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe And we do have that big change of peerage here for Sir Lawrence of Dystopia. He was a baronet, today he enters the ranks of Baron Congratulations and thank you for your support of the best podcast in the universe!

CHAPTER 44 / 47 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Global Event Schedule

A schedule of upcoming "No Agenda" meetups is provided, including events in Charlotte, North Carolina; Burlington, Kentucky; and Wageningen, The Netherlands. Listeners are encouraged to visit noagendameetups.com to find local gatherings or organize their own to build community connections.

meetups· north carolina· kentucky· texas· netherlands

2:58:36 No agenda meetups! Sometimes you get to meet the stars like John in Albany, New York. In Albany California You can meet all kinds of fun people though they're all stars in their own right here and uh...in Texas man we have Dirty Jersey Whore We got Sir Brian with an I We got Baron Scott at The Armory So many cool people Once you go to a Meetup he'll always want to return because these people bring you connection that is protection. Your first responders in any emergency go to noagendameetups.com you will see that on Thursday there's a meetup at Charlotte's Thirsty Third, Thursday monthly 7 o'clock at Edd's Tavern in Charlotte North Carolina and the rest of this month Wilmington California Burlington Kentucky on the 22nd Longview Texas on 23rd Spokane Washington 27th

2:59:26 And the final one for this month, November. We are a global show after all. Wageningen in Gelderland, The Netherlands Many more to find at noagendandmeetups.com If you can't find one near you start one yourself put it on noagenda meetups.com Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days You wanna be where you want me Triggered or hailed lame where everybody feels the same. It's like a party! John, tip of the day is coming up and we have some bangers of end-of-show mixes for you including the latest for our No Agenda The Musical but before we do that we'd like to check out some ISOs that will play at the very end of the show which is part of how this sausage is made You have one here that is seven seconds long? That can't be right

CHAPTER 45 / 47 Discussion

AI Voice Cloning, 11 Labs Experiments

Experiments with AI voice cloning using 11 Labs are discussed as a potential way to automate portions of the podcast. One host demonstrates a cloned version of their own voice, noting the impressive accuracy of the intonation and room echo, while expressing frustration with the platform's changing service tiers and limitations.

11 labs· ai voice· cloning· automation· podcasting

3:00:20 I'll pick it up where i think it should be let me check this out. Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian! What was the full thing actually? Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian Oh that was your first prompt you forgot to remove the first prompt and just leave the second one in. Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian That's not bad...I like it Here's your second one. Yuppers best podcast in the universe! No, no that's not yuppers I'm liking the other one better but let me try mine. I'm having so much fun right now You couldn't even understand it could you? No and it's like what was the point? Because we're ending this show we're not having fun here we go That is the craziest thing I've ever heard of my life

3:01:05 No, I think yours wins. Let me play it one more time Wow this show should be in the Smithsonian! As should that model from the LLM Hey everybody it's Cypher John tip of the day Which brings me to a complaint Uh oh So you said that model You know and there is a cute one That voice Cause she does something I don't know with her voice but The cheap bastards at 11 labs, you know they keep... They take my voices away and give me these... I can't get the voices that i want to use back. Oh you've used them too many times! And they had like 10 that I could select from and now I got 3 taking or leave it

3:01:54 They keep doing this and they keep changing stuff. Oh, that sucks! They want me to pay? Well of course they want you to pay if you pay then you get to hear I got my voice No no if I pay I know there's all these things I can do but I don't feel like...I don't wanna pay Yeah I sampled my voice You paid how much did you pay? It's too much Yes it is Let me see what this is let me see how this works out today Let me see if it's working. John is mean to me! It doesn't even sound like me, let me try this one... John is mean to me- He sounds just like you! Really? Yeah Noooo, let me see now... Yeah in fact when you segway back your own voice and sounded the same guy Really?! You thought he sounded like me?? Yeah I think that sounds exactly like you. It doesn't have quite the intonation but its not bad. Let me try this one, let me see if this works better

3:02:51 Now it's time for the tip of day. Tip of day? No, tip... Tip of DAY! That was my mistake. Tip of Day But when you do your own voice You can do other stuff. Now it's time for the tip of the day. THAT sounds like me It even has my echo in my room. Now its' time for the tip of the day. but you can also do something like You can tell it to be sexy. I think there's something fascinating about the fact that instead of sampling like Clinton or the president or somebody you use, this is like the vanity search let me just clone my own voice i'm going to tell you something...you have that voice already! You don't understand

3:03:33 I don't want to have to work. I just want to have an AI that talks to you and keeps you busy for three-and-a-half hours twice a day. Well, it'd be interesting to try but it's going to be dull. Hey listen this... Now it's time for the tip of the day You should pay for this stuff, man. I like the way you amuse yourself by sampling yourself This is all intended for me to just be able to Not get up at 5 a.m.. On Sundays That's that's all that this is about just once a week have AI Adam do the show with you? I'm building this whole system well good for you It'll be more work because it cannot it can Iraq it can be mean to you and

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Boeshield T9, Boeing Lubricant Tip

Boeshield T9, a lubricant and degreaser developed by the Boeing Corporation, is featured as the "Tip of the Day." The product is described as a superior alternative to WD-40 for use in machinery and hinges, though users are cautioned that it is extremely difficult to remove if spilled on floors.

boeshield t9· boeing· wd-40· lubricant· ranch hand

3:04:18 Well, no but it can't interact. Yeah not yet this is just the first inning John don't you know that AI is the future? Tip of the day so I looked as I gave this tip out in one of the shows before tip-of-the-day existed and I want to make it official to put it into list so when you go to Noah Jenda fund outcome you find it okay And I looked there, I couldn't find it. They didn't even pick it up because they pick up a lot of stuff like if you say you like a book boom it'll be in there but its not tip-of-the day but they have all these things that we've ever... Everything that we've ever suggested in terms of gigawatt coffee and the rest of it This is the Boshield T9 from Boeing aircraft company

3:05:08 This is a substitute for Ranch Hand, which is my all-time favorite substitute for WD40. It's just better and this is the Boeing version of WD40 that's better and it came as a tip from one of our producers who said you know at tip of the day he should do this and he went in a long exposition on why he loves this stuff He's a mechanic And I said, well you know I think we talked about it already and we did. I'm sure although i couldn't find any evidence of it. What's it called again? Boeshield B-O-E shield T9. Boeshield t9 okay...and uh It is a cheap looking can which this is from Boeing it says at the bottom just

3:05:54 developed by the Boeing Corporation. So it's used for, it's a lubricant, it's a degreaser, it's a de-ruster, it does everything WD40 does only it does it better and it's also good like liquid bearings, it's good for getting something that squeaky that'll eliminate no time. Like your chair? It would do the chair. Yeah, the problem is you have to be careful with this and ranch hand in all of these things if it gets on the floor Oh because that you cannot pick it up. You know what? You did do this on August 1st 2024

3:06:40 Yeah, it was pre-tip of the day though. It wasn't tip of the day. Everybody? This is the one that I wanted to plug some time ago and I came up with liquid bearing which was a second to it this is called bow shield T9 this is a...this was tip of the day well I can't find it on there on the website Well then I mean I can just play this for you if you want to do it again You're saying exactly the same thing which is kind of amazing I'm pretty consistent the way i present. You're a consistent dude, all right continue with your bow shield t9 Don't get any of these products on the floor No you can't if you try to rub it off like you take a towel and get it off It just spreads it and you end up with a part of the floor that's so slippery that you'll kill yourself

3:07:30 You have to get out a bunch of detergent and you've got to get this stuff wiped up. It's just horrible in that regard, so it's hard to just spray on something because if there is floor then if it drips down there... Well, to be honest now what kind of disbursement mechanism does it have? Does it has like the straw that WD-40 has? I never used this. I always used the straw! I love the straw on the WD-40 but problem is Don't use wd-40 use ranch and well t9, but here's what I'm worried about because when you spray it into hinges on the door That's where I typically wind up using it. Yeah yeah if that gets on the door is very hard to get off the door And I'm sure the same with this This bow bo flex T nine stuff

3:08:20 Whatever it's called. I'm sure it's hard to get off, you gotta be careful with this stuff We need lessons in how to apply it That would be a good tip of the day Well that why I like liquid bearing so much because It's not in a spray can It's in a little plastic thing with A very fine point Little dropper and So you get one drop right where You want it and then it will spread itself throughout And its great for locks But let's be honest, oh LOX is another one. Let's be honest these are great American inventions and they're needed And you don't... You can go into Europe and buy any of this They don't have this in Europe If you say WD-40 they're like what? You say Ranch Hand they're like what? You say Bowflex T9 they're like what? Bowshield! Bowshield T9 This is unknown in Europe I wonder if you can even ship it to Europe It's probably illegal Well I have no knowledge of this one way or the other Okay

3:09:23 So I go shopping when i'm in Europe. I go to this, you know like that huge That huge store the last time you were in europe 2017 Yeah, it's a while ago just a bit and i'm not going now And that, ladies and gentlemen in a reprise but well worth it is John C. Dvorak's Tip of the Day Find them all at tipoftheday.net They need a lot of lube in Europe so I'm just saying could be good for them could be a good thing

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Outro and End of Show Mixes

The show concludes with a series of musical mixes and "Homegrown Hits" from the listener community. The hosts sign off from Texas and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners of the next broadcast on Thursday and directing them to noagendadonations.com for continued support.

gitmo jams· techno· toronto· smithsonian· adios mofos

3:10:05 By the way, of all these things I still think that little bottle of liquid bearings is the best. It's the best. Coming up next on your NOAgenda stream Homegrown Hits! The ladies will bring you the latest value for value music it's a great show and streaming for you on noagendastream.com And before that, we do have some end of show mixes. B-dubs and D's Laughs with OG non AI However Will Treese comes in with a beautiful AI slop In fact it is the Ai Slop Orchestra and you can listen to all those at GitmoJams.com 24 7 baby Remember

3:10:48 We do not conform to the ways of this world. We are here to serve you, your no agenda show and I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, Fredericksburg Texas in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where it's overcast and kind of miserable, I'm John C. DeVore. We'll be back on Thursday please join us for more than three hours of media deconstruction from home and abroad until then remember us at noagendathedonations.com until then adios mofos a hooey hooey And I like to techno stuff. Thanks Obama! You love the techno stuff? I do, I do

3:11:40 You love the techno stuff. I do Would you go to a, like uh... A concert by Tiesto? No Never Oh okay Like it get you in- Like it get ya up on the DJ booth Yeah I don't have any interest in that With your glow sticks And I like the techno to listen too when im on an airplane cause it puts me out With your glow sticks I like the techno stuff.

3:12:42 Techno stuff, techno stuff. I like the techno stuff. If you're getting a tech on the TTC somebody punching you in the head is reported! Take your terrifory! G-O-R-O-N-T-O It's the place I've come to know it's the place i wanna leave It's the place you wanna go, O-L-I-V-I-H-O Her English is worse off now Someone check if there's a connect between her and Chairman Mao What really happened after Jack Layton? She changed her accent Code switching not hatin' but we need explainin' 416 905 647 289 Area codes in the 6 to me and to you They just rhyme Bikes on sidewalks more than streets Oven mitts in Uber Eats

3:13:33 Punjabis and Sikhs who did this to us The elites, 2SLGBQ+, let's just say they're not like us Watching city council meetings on YouTube? They were sus Protests all day and all night Citizens put up a fight Trucker protests at Queens Park I was there it just felt right T-O-R-O N-T-O It's the place i've come to know It's the place I wanna leave It's the place you wanna go! T...the O..The R....The O.....The N You're mean to John Why must you be mean to John? Gee Adam, can't ya see Ya love to see him cryin' with each show You call him Boomer and say he's old

3:14:32 Afterwards he's left alone singing the blues and sighing You treat him coldly each show of the year You always scold him whenever the trolls are near Why it must be great fun to be me Wow, this show should be in the Smithsonian!