Episode 180 · Sunday, 7 March 2010

Media Corruption Now in 3D

Media narratives surrounding the Pentagon shooting serve to pathologize dissent while global financial elites consolidate power through austerity measures and secret trillion-dollar security trusts.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 180

About this episode

John Patrick Bedell opened fire at the Pentagon this week, sparking a media firestorm that Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak identify as a coordinated effort to demonize government skeptics. While the Wall Street Journal and Fox News focused on Bedell’s marijuana use and 9/11 truther status, the press largely ignored his obsession with the 1991 death of Marine Colonel Jim Sabow. This omission serves a dual purpose: pathologizing political dissent while influencing upcoming California drug legislation.

Beyond the shooting, the Associated Press and Huffington Post are scrutinized for distributing propaganda that links mainstream anger to extremist violence. In Afghanistan, General William Caldwell revealed a billion-dollar monthly budget for security training, while Brigadier General Lawrence Nicholson admitted that Marjah locals often prefer Taliban governance over state corruption. Global financial threads also emerge, from the Greek debt crisis managed by Goldman Sachs to the Leo Wanta Global Security Fund, a multi-trillion dollar Reagan-era trust allegedly used as a CIA slush fund by the Bush-Clinton family. Additional reports cover Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland, Bill Gates’ comments on vaccines and population reduction at TED, and the re-arrest of UK killer John Venables.

Shane Brady is knighted as the first Vegan Knight of the No Agenda Round Table, bringing a libertarian non-aggression perspective to the show. John C. Dvorak clarifies his recent Twitter security breach, attributing the hack to a reused skeleton key password rather than a server-side vulnerability. The hosts also resolve to refer to Germany as Deutschland to respect native naming conventions while mocking the heavily decorated uniforms of modern military hall monitors.


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CHAPTER 01 / 30 Discussion

Twitter Account Hack, John C. Dvorak Password Security

John C. Dvorak addresses reports that his Twitter account was compromised over the weekend. He clarifies that while some suspected a root server breach, the vulnerability was likely due to a "skeleton key" password he reused across multiple low-security forums. Dvorak confirms he has since updated his credentials but remains indifferent to the security of non-essential forum accounts.

twitter· hacking· password security· john c. dvorak· skeleton key

00:01 Adam Curry, John C. DeVora It's March 7, 2010, time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 180. This is no agenda. Scouring the lamestream media from all across Gitmo Nation, coming to you from the 17th Century Canal House, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation Lowlands in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, under siege of the United States of Europe. In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's sunny again today, I'm John C. Dvorak. In the morning to you. Yeah morning to you. Hey, so how's that diet coming along? Yeah real funny So I'm in get my gibbon nation east over the weekend with my daughter sleeping on the couch Stomping potato chips into her carpet and all sudden my my phone starts like explode with Twitters Tell John he's been hacked or he's gonna be really thin

01:02 I would be or lose 20 pounds. Hmm. So I that'd be my that'd be my ideal weight. You know what's kind of interesting is that I don't think they guessed your password. I don't think that's what happened here. No, I feel thing it was a there's 200 to hack so that somebody thinks that the some route was busted. How about it's not happening? Isn't there some kind of isn't there some kind of JavaScript that you might have clicked on that I should log in and it? No, I don't do that. Because I remember you were having lots of problems logging into Twitter and you'd have to keep entry, it would never keep the credentials and you'd have to keep refreshing and logging in. You sure that didn't happen? No, I never said that. I've never had any trouble logging into Twitter.

01:46 Yeah, you did. I remember a while ago you had on one machine it would not... No, the whole thing with the Twitter... No, no. No. Well, okay. You either misunderstood me or I wasn't explaining myself correctly. Okay. I've never had a situation that would indicate... and I'm always on the lookout for that stuff anyway. Yeah, well of course you're always on the lookout, but still... so there was no re-login or anything? You think a root server was hacked? Well, that's what some people think. Was your password... you don't seem like the guy who has easy to guess passwords. Well, in this case it was.

02:22 I could have hacked this password myself. Because when I first joined Twitter, I have layers of passwords, depending on how secure I want something to be. You're not supposed to use password as password, John. You do know that, don't you? But the point is, I have a bunch of skeleton key passwords that I use for lesser sites that I don't think need passwords because I don't care. And I don't want to type in a million letters and words. So when I first joined Twitter, I was still skeptical at the time. And so I used a simple password. I never changed it. I changed it now. Mm-hmm. And you didn't use that password for anything else. Did you? There were there it was a skeleton key password that was used on a forum Which you know, I rarely log into okay, so and you've changed that No, I don't care

03:14 You're amazing. I don't care. I mean, what difference does it make if somebody hacks into your forum and starts saying, Macintosh sucks. There is no evidence that anyone would want to use a mouse as a pointing device, you losers. Well, you know, there is a Twitter scam that I can unveil. Something very interesting happened. that I've not seen reported anywhere except Gitmo Nation Lowlands, although it does involve Lance Armstrong. Oh really? Yeah. About, I think, five or six months ago, Miss Mickey started... I could see she was sending these tweets to someone. She's like, oh, you know, I've got kind of like a Twitter friend, this girl named Ines, and I guess she was... I don't know if she was an artist or something, but she had brain cancer.

CHAPTER 02 / 30 Discussion

Lance Armstrong, Twitter Brain Cancer Hoax

A woman from the Netherlands allegedly orchestrated an elaborate Twitter hoax by posing as "Ines," a terminal brain cancer patient, to gain the attention of celebrities. The scammer successfully elicited a personalized video message from cyclist Lance Armstrong, who offered encouragement and referenced his Livestrong foundation. The fraudulent profile was part of a larger pattern of emotional manipulation targeting high-profile figures and Dutch celebrities.

lance armstrong· twitter· hoax· brain cancer· ines

04:07 And you know, so she was twittering back and forth and I even said to her at the time, I said, you know, can I just tell you one thing I've learned? It's not a good idea to get emotionally involved with people over the internet who you don't know in forums or on email. I mean, it always turns out dumb. Either it's dumb or You know these people wind up stalking you forever right and and also said you know you're gonna get really emotionally involved in someone if she dies you mean you don't know this person but yeah no I feel I know the person so anyway she's a very sensitive person so I get it so whatever. So whatever. I kept seeing these tweets and she sent her like a... so she had this brain tumor, she was really into sports and she had to go to the hospital, a special brain operation in Salt Lake City I think, and her family was sending her emails. There was a lot of communication going on. And it turns out that this was some woman from the south of Holland

05:09 who had completely made this profile up. Oh, by the way, yeah, so she had completely made the profile up. She had been doing this to hundreds of celebrities, a lot of them Dutch actually. And this woman I think was involved in like rental property scams in maybe Florida or something like that. But here's the amazing thing, and I actually, I went and Mickey got me this from her email to play for you. This woman also scammed Lance Armstrong. And the way the story went is, so she was also twittering with Lance Armstrong, and Lance was twittering back and forth, because of course this was like a brain cancer or something like that.

05:51 And he sent a video message to this woman. And so the story goes, according to her quote, family. When Lance sent this video message, at the very end he talks about Liv Strong. That's when she woke up from her coma after her operation. And I have a copy of the video, which of course I'll put in the show notes at noagendashow.com, because it's just interesting that, you know, that this woman got all the way through to Lance Armstrong. Hi, Ines. It's Lance here. Welcome to you from Hawaii, where we are here for a few days training and relaxing and getting ready for the rest of the season. But more importantly, know that all of us here, myself, my family, little Max, all the guys I'm here training with are thinking about you, knowing that you're going to do great. I know it's been a rough couple of days, but

06:52 We believe in you, and we believe in your life, and we believe in a long life. So hurry up and get well soon. And again, we have you in our thoughts and prayers, and look forward to spending time with you in the future. Have a great day. I'll see you very soon. And as always, live strong. Yeah, and they're not going to get any less of them. I mean, as soon as they, I mean, this one sounds like it to me, it has all the earmarks. I mean, you know, there's such, you know, there's certain little things to look for, you know, that are not, you know, somebody has cancer getting talking to you, for example, that you don't know them. I mean, don't they have family and friends? I mean, what, why they, you know, it just doesn't make it. There's a lot of things that don't make sense. Yeah. And, uh,

07:58 I mean, it's like the kid, you know, the one that the email about the kid, he's, you know, he's in Senegal and he's, he's, he knows, you know, he knows red or he's heard of me and he knows that I'm generous and he needs a computer and if I can send him a couple hundred dollars. Yeah, I know this. Yeah. Yeah, I did tell Mickey, I said, you know, if someone sends you an email from Nigeria and they've got like $10 million, you might want to avoid that one. But anyway, I thought it was interesting that, you know, this will become the distraction of the week if the mainstream media gets a hold of this video. So I figured I'd post it and see what happens. See if, because you know, I was like, oh, you're going to encourage it. Thank you very much. Here's the headline.

08:46 Well, looks like fake Twitter has got Lance Armstrong by the balls. Ha ha ha. Bad joke. Bad joke. Whoa, that's terrible. I'm sorry. John, who can we congratulate as this episode's executive producer or producers? We have a number of things going on today. We have a new knight. Holy moly, that's nice. Who happens to coincidentally be the executive producer. It does sometimes work out that way, doesn't it? Yeah. And that is our friend Shane Brady of Plattsburgh, Missouri. Shane Brady. Didn't he donate just last week? Yeah, he's been donating. Oh wait, did he do 333-33-33?

CHAPTER 03 / 30 Discussion

Shane Brady, First Vegan Knight of No Agenda

Shane Brady of Plattsburgh, Missouri, is dubbed the first "Vegan Knight" of the show after completing his donation requirements. Brady defines veganism as a libertarian non-aggression principle applied to all sentient creatures, suggesting that Ayn Rand's John Galt did not take the philosophy far enough. The segment also acknowledges associate executive producers Andrew Blackburn and Justin Vincent.

shane brady· veganism· libertarianism· knighthood· john galt

09:34 Actually, he finished off his knighthood with 271.75. Nice. And let's see what he says here. He wants us to read something. He also says that he, as a libertarian, he says he's our first vegan knight. Oh, wow. This is big news. Wait, I think I should mark that for the opening of the show. It has potential. He says, veganism is simply the libertarian principle of non-aggression applied to all sentient creatures. Man, he must be pale. I think that he actually we went back and forth on this message. I think that's the

10:28 I think that's the last message. Because first he asked me if I would read the... Well, of course, he's a knight. Of course we'll read the message. Yeah, so I told him. Oh, no, he has an extra sentence. That's right. This is his final edit. Veganism is simply the libertarian principle of non-aggression applied to all sentient creatures. John Galt didn't take it far enough. Okay, right. It's not this where he's like pushing it. Yeah for real for real for those of you by the way He were who don't understand the reference By Ayn Rand, oh, it's a new porn movie coming out at Atlas shagged

11:17 Yeah, okay, fail. Next, who's our next executive producer, John? Allen, oh I'm sorry, Andrew Blackburn is an associate executive producer from Mount Zion, Illinois and this is his tax return money. Oh, excellent. This is exactly what we hoped for. I think we only received maybe Three to this is the second this is the third Okay, Andrew Blackburn fantastic And then we have Justin Vincent from Los Angeles California to to to dot to to nice and he wants us to plug tweet minor comm t we et mi n e r.com Which is a obviously some sort of a search engine or a Twitter? Yeah, okay nice

CHAPTER 04 / 30 Discussion

International Donations, German Naming Conventions

A donation from a German listener prompts a discussion on the English preference for the name "Germany" over "Deutschland." The hosts resolve to use the term "Deutschland" moving forward to better reflect the country's native name. The segment concludes with the formal knighting ceremony for Shane Brady and an update on the production of physical rings for show supporters.

deutschland· germany· donations· knighthood· shane brady

12:05 And then we have, uh, whose name I asked for a pronunciation. I got, uh, UV put say, uh, U W E P U T Z E. He says you might be able to pronounce it better than I will. All right. Good. And where is from the Netherlands? I presume. Nope. He's from Ram sec. Deutschland. I couldn't talk. You W E. He gave us 250 bucks because he broke up with his girlfriend and he figures that's what he would have paid for the last dinner date. Wow, she's expensive. Dude. Yeah. Oh my goodness. That's why I broke up. So we were the beneficiaries of the breakup. Okay. By the way, this is good. This is a very good plan. If you break up, please spend your last meal ticket

12:55 Your last investment in hookers and blow on the show. We highly appreciate that. So I was thinking about, you know, I think the United States, I think we should stop. Stop calling Deutschland Germany. What's the point of it? I think Deutschland most people can pronounce and I like the word. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, how did it ever go from Deutschland to Germany in English? Is that because of the Germanic part or... Yeah, obviously Germanic tribes and German tribes, you know, it probably went back to God knows when. I don't know, maybe, I don't know, I have no idea. Okay, I like it. We'll call it Deutschland from now on. Deutschland. And you know what? I like the new Deutschers.

13:42 Deutscher's yeah the new Deutsche. Well, we're not can't can't call them Germans anymore You know the the new generation of Deutscher's are great to work with There's always been a lot of kind of animosity throughout the years between No, they'll get back to that. Don't worry about it. Yeah, we've talked about that where the Dutch always make the joke saying hey I want my bike back. Where's my bike? Okay, can we do the yes ceremonies I Yes, the ceremony for our new knight, Shane Brady from Plattsburgh. Shane Brady, kneel before us as we now knight thee Sir Shane Brady. Please enjoy the hookers and blow of the Knights of the No Agenda Round Table.

14:32 It's awesome when we I got to do some work on the knighthood. It doesn't sound good enough Yeah, well you know it's getting there. How are we on the race? This thing is a vegan blow. I don't know I think it is it is based. It's organic. No. It's not organic is it well. I don't know Have we done any research on the rings, John? Because I keep getting tons of email about this. Yeah, I'm doing research on the rings daily and I will be getting somewhere with this project and I still have to...

15:08 Solicit each and each individual night to make sure that's what they want. So I'm pretty sure a couple weeks on this Okay, sure, they're gonna like it. Anyway, thank you very much to our brand new night Shane Brady also the executive producer for episode 180 of no agenda associate executive producers as we go through the the credit roll Andrew Blackburn Justin Vincent and who puts a our Deutsche associate executive producer which makes this a very international show and we're very happy with it. As you know, you can put it on your resume and you can use this slogan. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And you know what? The formula is simple but it really seems to work well. Order. Shut up, slave. It's gonna look so good on the rings.

CHAPTER 05 / 30 Discussion

London Observations, Airport Body Scanners

Observations from a recent trip to the United Kingdom highlight a perceived atmosphere of depression and increased binge drinking in London. The report criticizes the lack of media analysis regarding Gordon Brown's Iraq inquiry testimony and the Phil Jones Climategate hearing. Additionally, an encounter with a "naked" body scanner at Schiphol Airport is described, noting the lack of public awareness regarding the "underpants bomber" justification for the technology.

london· schiphol airport· body scanners· gordon brown· climategate

16:05 Hit people in the mouth in Latin. It's gonna look great. It really will. So there's a story I want to go into some detail on today. Can I just do a little personal thing before you do that? Yeah. I was in Gitmo Nation East, known as the United Kingdom, over the weekend hanging with my daughter. And wow, man, I hadn't been there in a year really. Well, I was there in August during her birthday, but that was really just like a one-day trip. And now I was out and about town with her in the tube stations, you know, all over the place. And oh my goodness, those, you know what? My daughter actually said it right, because I said, everyone here looks so depressed and angry. And she says, yeah, but they look good doing it, which I think is a fair point, because they are pretty fashionable. But it's just, it's gotten so depressing.

16:57 And the binge drinking has gotten worse, the knifings have gotten worse. It's just absolutely bad. And the news, maybe it's because I haven't watched it in a while. And I really, I was sitting there going to myself, oh man, you know, the show really does miss something by me not being there because they're so good at telling people things. They had Gordon Brown on trial, the Iraq trials. And the only thing they show is like, and every single news station, Sky News, BBC News, you know, all the news stations, they only show like one little snippet of him saying, yep, when the Ministry of Defence asked for more money for our soldiers, we gave it to them. That's the only thing, and he was on trial for like hours, that's the only thing they showed. And there's no analysis, you know, just a bunch of people doing stand-ups outside of the building where the inquiry took place. Meanwhile, over on the BBC Parliament channel,

17:54 For days they were doing an inquiry about the Climategate scandal, which no one was covering at all whatsoever. They had Phil Jones and it's funny man, when they do an inquiry in the United Kingdom, they do it in this little room and they put the desks in a square, kind of like a discussion group at school, and then the stenographer sits in the middle and it literally is like school tables. And the guy's just sitting there talking out of his rectum. He's like, well, how about this data that you covered up according to the emails? And the guy goes, well, we had this tree ring data and it just didn't quite jive with the data that we were looking at. So we found, we were just searching for different ways to make that data look right. And we wrote about that a year ago. And that's his excuse.

18:44 Like, you know, they've been manipulating the data for a year ago and they told everybody. And this doesn't get reported at all. It's live on television but there's no reporting. It's nuts. And no one's questioning anything. My daughter didn't even know about the crotch bomber. This apparently was not big news in the UK. I'm telling you! She knew about Nigel Farage because that apparently was all over the place. She saw that, you know, telling Van Rompuy, the President of the United States of Europe, that he had the personality of a dishrag. That she knew. But I said, you know, do you notice these new scanners? She said, yeah, what's up with that? I said, that's because of the crotch bomber. Who? The underpants bomber. What? Oh my God. So...

19:31 Huh? Yeah, and then odd yeah, no I put these new scanners and nobody knows the reason why don't even know it. She's just like Just walked right through it. I said, don't you know what this is? And funny, because I had to go through it at Schiphol Airport. And I was with my daughter. That's the only reason why I didn't make a scene. Because I picked her up here in Amsterdam. We flew back to her house in London. I'm like, oh, I really don't want to go through this thing. But at Schiphol Airport, there's no alternative. You go through the naked body scanner. And they're sitting there right on the other side looking at the picture. So I go through, complaining, right? Bitterly complaining.

20:09 But not making a big scene I'm like I just don't want to embarrass my daughter and I go through and I turn around the minute I'm through and there's the you know, the the outline, you know, like a little cartoon character and I had My passport and tickets in my back pocket and it shows up and I see like this huge orange, you know stripe from about the middle of my Of my waist You're kind of going up across my body and I'm like, yeah, that's my huge cock that you see in there. And the lady goes, oh, well, that's interesting because it's on the backside of your body. I said, that's what I'm saying, baby. That's what I'm talking about. And they were not amused. They didn't get it. They did not know why I was making fun of that. I tell my daughter right there that that's a naked body skin. It's just not naked. I said, yeah, this is not the real picture. And then these idiots, they don't even know what I'm talking about.

CHAPTER 06 / 30 Discussion

Alice in Wonderland 3D, Tim Burton Film Review

The hosts review Tim Burton's "Alice in Wonderland," offering conflicting views on its quality. While the visual execution and Stephen Fry's performance as the Cheshire Cat are praised, the 3D technology is criticized for darkening the image and causing physical fatigue. Johnny Depp's portrayal of the Mad Hatter is compared to British actor Robert Benchley rather than a more traditional "mad" interpretation.

alice in wonderland· tim burton· johnny depp· 3d movies· stephen fry

21:08 Wow. Yeah, yeah. It was pretty weird. And just one other thing. We went to see Alice in Wonderland in 3D against my better judgment. And let me tell you something. After having seen this in 3D, John, Alice in Wonderland is awesome, dude. You have to go see it. I saw the movie and I... It sucks. It sucks. I thought the movie was great. Oh, you've been assimilated. it is no i i was looking at the reviews on rotten tomatoes and it's interesting because i don't think they had a hidden message in there because the reviews are right down the middle everybody either thinks it's great or they think it's ox now i happen to be a huge tim burton fan as far as i'm concerned he gets a pass on anything he does

21:56 So I'm gonna like the movie anyway, but the fact of the matter is I think it was it was a well-executed film. I thought it was paced nicely and It was fine. I didn't have any problems with it whatsoever I thought it was very entertaining for anyone who was like if anybody likes Tim Burton or Johnny Depp You have to see this movie. Okay. I like Tim Burton. I like Johnny Depp. I thought that Johnny Depp was not crazy enough He was not mad enough to be you know, he was playing. Oh, Depp is always known for playing somebody. Yeah, I Who was he this time, according to you? In the Pirates of the Caribbean, he's playing the... Keith Richards. Keith Richards. He's playing Robert Benchley. Who's that?

22:34 The British actor that always had that lisp and he was in the 50s and 60s. Oh, sure, sure. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that's a crazy accent. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, a couple of things that were interesting. So first of all, I love the Cheshire Cat who was Stephen Fry. He did the voice for that, which was just outstanding. What a great casting. I thought the 3D made absolutely no sense. I would have loved this movie in 2D and you know the glasses going over my glasses which actually darkened the image because I lifted them up a couple times. I got tired physically from watching the 3d I thought there were maybe six or seven scenes where it actually made sense that it was 3d when you have like a big Landscape like okay, that looks kind of nice now. It's pretty cool But what was interesting and along with this comes a conversation I had with Dexter Christina's on again off again boyfriend there is

CHAPTER 07 / 30 Discussion

3D Television Industry, Dolby Technology Flaws

A discussion with a Dolby executive reveals technical challenges in the push for 3D television, including the requirement for specialized notch filters and the inability to "casually" watch 3D content. Concerns are raised regarding the impact of 3D perception on the brain development of young children. Despite these flaws, major broadcasters like Sky are heavily investing in 3D sports and programming.

3d tv· dolby· sky news· notch filters· brain development

23:31 Not a single production house television production house in Gitmo nation east that isn't producing 3d for television Sky was advertising in 3d their 3d skybox coming soon Everyone is producing for 3d. It's amazing I was, okay, I went to see the movie under slightly different circumstances than you. This was a pre-screening done by Dolby with the Dolby crew there. It's a Dolby 3D. And by the way, the sound on the movie I thought was pretty good. I like the sound effects. It was pretty good. Yeah, because they'd have stuff, they'd throw something at you and it would crash behind you. Yeah, that was pretty good. That worked out okay. But anyway, so I had a long conversation with one of the senior vice presidents.

24:21 and about the TV thing. And he mentions a number of flaws, and the ones that they see at the professional level is that you can't casually watch 3D on a television. You have to sit down, you gotta sit down, you zone out, and you're completely captivated, which is what this whole thing is about, is to make people even stupider. Right, and there's a couple of things about the Dolby 3D system. You know how those glasses work? I think these are the polarized glasses? Yeah, no, that's what people... I'll tell you this, it's actually too complicated to explain. They're notch filters.

25:07 They're kind of notched filters set differently, each filter set slightly differently and it allows for one lens projection. In other words, typically with a polarizing system setup, you have two film projectors or at least two lenses shooting with one polarized, the north and south, and one east and west, and then the polarizers balance it out. This is done with one lens and the notch filters, essentially each one of them knocks out one half of the image.

25:44 Now, it does darken it, you know, Dolby claims that it actually makes the colors better, but I'm not convinced of that. No, I disagree. I'm not convinced of that at all. I'm not convinced of it, but the thing that I think is the interesting kicker is that they have to recycle those glasses. I don't know, and I never thought to ask because I've never used these before, and the guys were all gone after the movie. But I'm gonna ask him next time I talk to him those lenses must cost about a hundred and fifty bucks a pop I took them with me. I didn't recycle. I don't like screw it. I paid 40 pounds for the circle seats I'm taking my freaking glasses. You probably see to you pipe That's why they're usually at the door begging and giving the glasses a little box that says please recycle You know what it reminded me of actually John this 3d because you know, it's bullshit. It's it reminded me and Probably it will take

26:29 listeners to this program who over the age of 30 to know what I'm talking about it's like looking through a view master you know what I remember those and for people who don't know yeah I still have a little classic Bakelite model yeah that's what it looks like it looks like you're looking through a view mass I'm like okay this is like a view master big deal and by the way when you're doing 3d please do not throw shit at me I don't like it it's like you You know, like they throw something at the screen. You have to have stuff thrown at you. I don't like it. No, I don't like it. But there must have been 15 trailers and commercials all in 3D, including sports programming coming on Sky. It's like they are going to make the population so dumb

27:13 And there's plenty of surveys and studies that you don't want kids watching this. If you've got young kids watching in 3D, it messes with their brain and the way they perceive the world. It's not good. Would you agree? Let's put it this way, I'm not a big fan of the idea either. I think the story should be able to carry itself with all the gimmicks. I think the Tim Burton movie has... I enjoyed it. I mean, I thought the movie was great from the moment Tweedledee and Dumb came out. Yeah, who by the way was the guy from Little Britain. the two fat kids. Yeah, yeah. And the it was a the CG was used very creatively to you know warp people's heads and I thought it was a very entertaining film. Here's the kicker for you. Ready? Okay, there's three other people in the world who are gonna laugh when I say this. The Red Queen, Jennifer Cooper,

CHAPTER 08 / 30 Discussion

Pentagon Shooting, John Patrick Bedell Media Narrative

The media coverage of John Patrick Bedell, the man who opened fire at the Pentagon, is analyzed as a "distraction of the week." Reports from the Wall Street Journal and Fox News are criticized for emphasizing Bedell's marijuana use and "9/11 truther" status while allegedly scrubbing his primary motivation. The hosts argue the media is using the event to demonize government skeptics and anti-marijuana legislation.

pentagon· john patrick bedell· 9/11 truther· marijuana· distraction of the week

28:16 Yeah, pretty little bit. You know, I guess she was in the original story was the representatives of one of the Queens that was always killing people. Yeah. So, uh, for Cooper, it's funny. All right. So anyway, we got more. If you, if you knew that before you watched the movie, you will be cracking out throughout the whole thing. I, within the first second, I'm like, this is Jennifer Cooper. There's no doubt about it. It's her. That's funny. Anyway, it would be hearing from her attorney in the morning. Yeah. In the morning for sure. Alright John, so of course since I didn't take my laptop, I didn't do a whole bunch of prep but then when I got back around 3 o'clock this afternoon, so I had about two and a half hours and it's unbelievable the stuff I was still able to assemble thanks to the producers. And by the way if you're wondering, just send the email to adamancurry.com if you got something that you think is of interest for the show.

29:13 No, send it to john at Dvorak dot org. No, Adam at curry dot com because you know, john will probably either a miss your email be not be able to find it again when he's looking for it. See he will know above all he will mispronounce your name. Adam at curry.com Yeah, well luckily Adam never picks up in there opens his email as it just said he didn't bring his laptop So there you have I had my iPhone and I had my whole system of tagging stuff that I want and after we do our donation drive I'll talk about something pretty interesting that the producers have really worked very hard on and Something that I will be spending a lot of the coming week researching

30:00 So I want to talk about the Distraction of the Week. Oh, wow. That actually is... The Distraction of the Week on the Woods Gender Lookover. That is turning into something of a media scandal and now they're trying to back off the nut so it's not so much the Distraction of the Week. Oh, okay. Well, what is it, John? It's the Pentagon shooter. Oh wow, yeah. I've got some... This happened, I guess, the day after the last show. It happened on Friday, I think. And I'm pretty sure I know where you're gonna go with this.

30:43 Well, maybe you do, maybe you don't. One of the things that's interesting about this, it follows the pattern of a certain pattern that has shown up on some of these distractions of the week. And the one that always, and the one that's like, almost like code. It's like you look for this and then you'll see, and this has happened with the crotch bomber, it's happened with every distraction of the week. And this one in this case is in the Wall Street Journal. It says, Pentagon shooters' parents warned police. Oh, really? Oh, this is just like the crotch bomber. Amazing. And it was like the two or three other things that there's somebody warning police and you know, that's just kind of code for this whole story. Something is sketchy about it. Now, what's sketchy about this story is that that the details of the reason rationale for this guy for whatever why why he was going there in the first place. We don't know because they killed him. There's also accounts of the two shots

31:40 shot guards are both there, they were shot and killed or they were shot and injured. And there's actually accounts on the net on the news right now saying one of both. So the two memes I picked up on were a he was meant to know three actually a mentally ill. B, mentally ill because he talked about conspiracy theories and had a podcast which like, okay. And there's one other that I want, but the third one of course is marijuana. That's all over the place. And I've written to the Wall Street Journal writers about this. I love it. You're like my grandfather. You sit there and like tapping away like, I'm angry. I'm pissed off. I know I'm asking him where they got this marijuana meme because I don't see any evidence of it. Now he had a wiki user page that they cite, which has been taken down.

32:38 But luckily there's a website called the Wikipedia and this guy monitors all these personal wiki sites which are used to promote one thing or another. And the most interesting thing, and I'm going to go right to the end of this research and then walk through it backwards. The, uh, this guy whose name is Bedell, shot dead of course. He was preoccupied, not with 9-11.

33:15 He wasn't preoccupied, he was not preoccupied with drugs like the Wall Street Journal claims. The Wall Street Journal claims he was preoccupied with drugs and marijuana in particular and that drove him over the edge. Fox News, and I have a clip from Geraldo, you can play the Geraldo teaser right here and then we can play the long clip later. And the truth about the 9-11 truther who shot and killed after he attempted murder at the Pentagon. But up front tonight, who's trying to hurt the Hurt Locker? You know anyway there was an ABC there was an ABC News report about the marijuana tell me when you're ready for that and I'll play that one Okay, now here's well the marijuana thing we could play probably anytime But let me tell you what the story is really about and and now there's evidence that it was pulled And I don't have the exact proof of this but the writer at the Salem Oregon paper the Salem News said that

34:09 They're looking for possibly a copy of it. They may have it in the file. So, Geraldo literally just said the 9-11 truther at the Pentagon. So, I just want to remind our listeners, some of you are new to this program, this is what we do. We pull apart the messages that are being programmed into your freaking brain by the mainstream media. It's being programmed. They are telling you what to think and we are, I think, thankfully helping you to see through the BS. So, the guy, this character, was actually preoccupied with the death, the mysterious death of Marine Colonel Jim Sabow.

CHAPTER 09 / 30 Discussion

Colonel Jim Sabow, Pentagon Shooter Motivation

Evidence suggests John Patrick Bedell was obsessed with the 1991 death of Marine Colonel Jim Sabow, which Bedell believed was a military murder rather than a suicide. Sabow's brother, Dr. David Sabow, claims the government has consistently tried to suppress information regarding the Colonel's death, which was allegedly linked to illegal drug-running operations. The hosts note that this specific motivation was largely absent from mainstream news reports about the Pentagon shooting.

jim sabow· marine corps· cover-up· john patrick bedell· dr. david sabow

34:51 Oh, interesting. His wiki page was nothing but this situation. He was convinced that the guy was murdered by the military and his brother who was quoted in the Oregon papers and a few other places who confirms this has had a couple of interesting things to say. First of all, the Wall Street Journal mentioned this in this first reporting of the shooting and then pulled it. So to explain who this the serviceman is so that people understand the background Well, Colonel say bow apparently I think it was around 1991. You can look him up He's in Wikipedia and we have shown notes. I think that that that link to it he would disappeared because he Or he was shot or killed or committed suicide. It was it was it was a I think was a shotgun to the head twice

35:43 Yeah, something like that. Yeah, seriously. It was like he was gonna turn state's evidence on some drug running done by the government. Exactly. I would call this Mina, Arkansas, M E N A. Have a look now. The thing so so so, uh, So, Sabow's brother, who's a doctor, Dr. David Sabow, he's been talking to people about this because he knows for a fact what was going on. And I'm just going to read a little segment from this Tom King report. The government tried to do everything possible to end David's quest for information about his brother, and the DEA even tried to take Dr. Sabow down through a setup.

36:28 A woman who was his patient refused. Apparently she was offered some deal if she would just get him to give her a bad prescription or more drugs or something. Right, it's like bringing down Al Capone on tax fraud charges. Just to get him out of the way because apparently David Sabo is a pest about this. He says he doesn't really know this Bedell character but he did know that he had a bunch of pages up, posted, complaining about the government cover-up. Meanwhile, this patient of Dr. Sabow told Sabow and they went immediately to a... they got a whole bunch of orders filed and affidavits filed showing that the DEA was in on some sort of a scam to screw this guy. Now this isn't good news for anybody if this is going on. Meanwhile,

37:22 Brian Williams opened, according to the article, Brian Williams opened the NBC Evening News, and by the way, Dr. Sabo has a quote in here saying, they are once again trying to scrub my brother's name from the copy, as he referred to the Wall Street Journal article, that swapped him out of, you know, the editors took his name out and put this marijuana crap in there, and I haven't heard back from any of these people. And I know what they're going to say anyway, they're just going to tell me to screw myself. Even though I work for the same company. Tonight's pseudo-journalist Brian Williams opened the NBC Evening News and talked about how Bedell was deranged and disturbed. He tossed it to Jim Michalewski who talked about how the shooter believed the US government was behind 9-11, which is a theory subscribed to by some of the country's top engineers and professors.

38:05 Not one reference to Colonel Sabow. Anyway, so it's all about it. So anyway, so this has been completely expunged. The whole the public is being screwed over with this bogus story. And then when it finally boils down, we have this report, which I'm going to play now of Geraldo with guess who? Coming in to kind of fill time. I know who. All right. Alex Jones. And again, we have no mention. He's in there. You're going to get a kick out of this one. We have, and besides that, they have some woman that came on who, I don't know who, where Heralder got her for one thing. She's, she's atypical Fox News because she's a brunette. Now let me, let me, let me just say one thing. So what Alex Jones, I haven't heard this clip, but I know that Alex Jones is saying that the whole setup is to discredit 9-11 truthers.

39:01 Yeah by having them Try and attempt crazy stuff like you know going to the Pentagon and trying to shoot shoot your way in so that's been his that he's been on that trip for I would say three to four weeks. He's been talking about this and although I have not heard his show recently I'm quite convinced that he's saying right now see I told you This is what's happening. They're blaming 9-eleven truthers on On this violence and he's also predicting that President Obama, but there will be an assassination attempt Well, no, he didn't do that. So now the thing that happened. I don't think he's allowed to do that This is no he's on his own show. He's doing that on his own show Maybe now one of the things is interesting though. I have to say this woman De Geraldo picked out is she is absolutely stunning

39:47 She has nothing to say. She's an empty, she's more empty headed than she's a pond. She's an MK Ultra drone. I love that. These are the presidential models. These are the hot ones. I love these. She's definitely in that category. But she chimes in and says nothing and then he goes back and forth but you hear a lot of the You hear a lot of this, you know, they just completely take this Colonel Sabo thing and push it under the carpet. Now I have to say the Wikipedian captured most of all his wiki pages that had been expunged and killed from Wikipedia after this happened. They all disappeared.

CHAPTER 10 / 30 Discussion

ABC News Coverage, Marijuana Demonization

An ABC News report on John Patrick Bedell is scrutinized for linking his "suicide mission" to mental illness and marijuana use. The segment highlights how the media uses Bedell's messy car and past drug arrests to paint a picture of a "deranged" individual. The hosts suggest this narrative is a coordinated effort to influence the upcoming marijuana legalization vote in California.

abc news· marijuana· bipolar disorder· john patrick bedell· california

40:25 But they have most of them and they have some links to some edit pages and there was no marijuana stuff. It was all about Sabaw. This guy was preoccupied with Sabaw. It's the obvious reason he was going to the Pentagon. It's possible he was invited to come and the whole thing was a setup to kill the guy. Let me before we get to the Geraldo Alex Jones. Let me just play for you ABC News This is the reporting that most people will see and listen very carefully because you are also in grave danger John I mean we know that I'm in danger because I'm a crackpot and because I'm I think 9-11 was an inside job and all this stuff and and we do podcasts on the internet and I'm a well-known ex marijuana smoker and

41:10 But you are also being targeted, my friend, and you will hear why, and then we'll get to your Geraldo clip. Is that okay? Go for it. And now we turn to that heavily armed young man who died in a wild gunfight outside the Pentagon. We learned today that he had sent warnings, John Patrick Bedell's worried parents telling police he was mentally unbalanced. Martha Raddatz at the Pentagon tonight with what happened at the end of his cross-country odyssey. By the way, I love that cross-country Odyssey. That's a fan. Yeah, that's well written. Okay now listen John Patrick Bedell's cross-country trip ended here in a hail of bullets He approached the Pentagon officers wearing a suit and a coat carrying two semi-automatic handguns and loads of extra ammunition He was very calm. There was no distress in his appearance

42:02 He walked very directly to the officers and engaged. The officers shot Bedell in the head. It was essentially a suicide mission. One his parents and police said today was fueled by mental illness and marijuana. Bedell was once considered a brilliant engineering student at San Jose State University. But on a recent YouTube video, he sounded confused at best. Information currency units can be used to create verification certificates. And there were postings laced with conspiracy theories about 9-11 and government corruption. There are those, even in positions of great power and responsibility, who usurp the banner of freedom in order to justify their wicked schemes of theft, murder, and enslavement.

42:50 Since 2004, Bedell had been treated for bipolar disorder, depression and anxiety that he had tried to alleviate with marijuana. In 2006, Bedell was arrested for growing marijuana. We talked to a close friend of the family today. He was a very, very gentle young man. It seemed to me that he was just in denial. Did he have some kind of problem with marijuana? And then beginning January... Now listen closely John because here's where you are in grave danger my friend. February 3rd, alarm bells. On a highway in Texas, Bedell is pulled over for speeding. The highway patrolman calls his parents to say he was concerned about him. He stops him for simple speed but apparently the inside of the vehicle was in disarray. There you go.

43:39 John the inside of the vehicle was in disarray if anyone knows John Devorak if anyone knows John C. Devorak Dude, if you get pulled over without a doubt your parents are getting a call because the inside of your car is in severe disarray You are going down brother Alright, that was so okay. Yeah, so they put the marijuana now we've got if anyone listens to the show more than once or twice We know that pulling this marijuana stunt to try to kill the marijuana bill in California So they're adding the marijuana issue to anything they can to show that you cut makes you crazy Yeah, there's also in the show notes. I won't play it as a YouTube video of Anderson Vanderbilt 360 Cooper who also talks about marijuana and

44:31 Yeah, yeah, there's an all-out assault on marijuana. Of course, this story, of course, is not being accurately reported in any way. And by the way, that thing he was, that guy, they had a quote from the Bidell character about something about using information as a monetary instrument. That's actually what he was working on. He has a- Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that was his thing. It was working on somehow doing default credit swap, inventing some sort of new form of default credit swap or something crazy. To take everything down. No, I think it was a brilliant idea to basically bankrupt Goldman Sachs.

CHAPTER 11 / 30 Discussion

CIA Takeover Theory, George H.W. Bush Dallas Connection

John Patrick Bedell's writings included claims that the CIA took control of the U.S. government in 1963 following the assassination of John F. Kennedy. This theory is compared to claims in the book "Family of Secrets," which alleges George H.W. Bush was a CIA operative present in Dallas on the day of the assassination. The hosts discuss the historical shift in government power and the potential risks of investigating these topics.

cia· john f. kennedy· george h.w. bush· family of secrets· 1963

45:09 Meanwhile, if you read one or two of the reports that were written by the mainstream media, claim that he was working on the same kind of a thing, some sort of money trading scheme using pot marijuana. I'm all over that, buddy. Unbelievable. The one interesting anomaly besides the fact that the mainstream media has literally covered the story up about the murder of Saebyeol, being at the root of the whole thing, is that this Bedell character was into, you know, they say, well, 9-11, that wasn't just it. He wrote a bunch of articles on the wiki and elsewhere about

45:53 all the laundry list of things from mind control to 9-11. Yeah, like me, MKUltra, Inside Job. He basically was just in that group of people, many of our listeners, that was just following all this stuff to an extreme, except he was on the Sabo thing mostly. But he did also had his thing about the CIA having already had taken over the country, which is what Ron Paul had claimed in a clip that we played a few weeks back. But he has, what's interesting about his assertion is that he has it dated as 1963. As when the CIA took over?

46:32 Yeah. Oh, I, oh, dude, I so believe it. I, I, I'm right there. I'm right there. I don't know. I'm not, I was looking and looking and looking. And I'll tell you what, and I'll tell you what, and you must read the book, Family of Secrets. Let me ask you one question, John, where were you when President John F. Kennedy was assassinated? I was in a chemistry class. You know exactly where you were, right? Do you know the one guy in America who does not remember where he was the day President Kennedy was assassinated? Do you know who that was? Who literally has said publicly, I can't remember?

47:09 Lyndon Johnson. No, George Bush senior. Really? Meanwhile, if you look at the at the accounts and there's actual and this is a great book, Family of Secrets, he was in Dallas when that took place and he was already a CIA operative at that time. So 1963 makes total sense and something coming up after donations ties right into that. Hmm. Yeah, I said publicly I can't remember it was such a confusing time The guy was in Dallas because the CIA off the president. That's what happened. So yes a 63 is it? Oh my god, you know what's gonna happen to me Let me just say publicly there's no way I'm gonna suicide myself. Have you seen Mickey? There's no freaking way I'm all for hookers and blow hookers and blow. I love it. I love it. I love life No, it's not gonna happen

CHAPTER 12 / 30 Discussion

Associated Press, Media Propaganda and CIA Influence

An Associated Press article titled "When Raw Anger at Government Turns Violent" is identified as a propaganda piece designed to link mainstream political dissent to extremist violence. The hosts highlight a strange discrepancy where the Huffington Post added Calvin Woodward as a co-author to Eileen Sullivan's original text without changing any content. This is cited as evidence of intelligence agency influence within major media outlets.

associated press· huffington post· calvin woodward· eileen sullivan· cia

47:59 They just plant some white powder on you, that'd be the end of it. And by the way, here's another anomaly, by the way. I don't, and I can't for the life of me figure this one out. So the, there's a one piece, the title is from the Associated Press, which covered this rat, I don't think they even put the say about thing in anywhere to pull it like the Wall Street Journal did. But there's a piece floating around, you can look it up, it's on Huffington, when raw anger at government turns violent and it's kind of a piece that soft pedals this as just part of a trend. Let me just read you a couple quotes from the thing.

48:38 his poisonous view of the government appears well out on the extreme until you see this is an interesting sentence by the way, it's an M-dash, it says until you see what some people close to the center of power are saying these days and then they start going after various Republicans and Democrats who are just saying stuff like Republican Senator Jim DeMint of South Carolina says to the CPAC, he says, America is teetering towards tyranny. This is an example of something that should not be said. And who wrote that? This is what's interesting about this. This was written by a kind of a beat writer,

49:18 for the Associated Press, I think she might be out of Atlanta, I'm not sure, Eileen Sullivan. Now, this article, by the way, which is, When Raw Anger at Government Turns to Violence, very propagandistic. It appeared, I think, in the Atlanta Constitution, if I'm not mistaken, it may have been elsewhere. But when it appeared in Huffington, it appeared with a co-writer, a co-author named Calvin Woodward. And Woodward seems to be a kind of a hit piece oriented, the guy's older. Now, Calvin Woodward, now it says Calvin Woodward and Eileen Sullivan in only in the Huffington Post. So I took the article and printed it out on a big sheet so I could put it side by side to see what they added to the article. Nothing. I thought, well, I'm going to find something cool here. And there's no, there's not one single comma that's changed. So why was Calvin Woodward's name

50:12 added to this article in the Huffington Post. I have no, it's baffling to me. You know, John, do you, you do realize that the CIA is all over the media, including Huffington Post? Yeah, I mean the CIA is in every single mainstream media outlet And I know this is what I wanted to tell you, you know, we're gonna have a private dinner I'm gonna tell you some things that relate to my family, but this is never here. I never see him again. Ladies and gentlemen That's it It'll be very unfortunate accident John had he was showing me his gun and it went off very unfortunate

CHAPTER 13 / 30 Discussion

Alex Jones on Geraldo, 9/11 Truther Demonization

Alex Jones appears on Geraldo Rivera's program to defend the 9/11 Truth movement following the Pentagon shooting. Jones argues that the media's immediate labeling of Bedell as a "truther" is a "false flag" tactic intended to demonize anyone who questions the official government narrative. The segment critiques the "info-babble" techniques used by Fox News to distract viewers from substantive arguments.

alex jones· geraldo rivera· fox news· 9/11 truth· pentagon shooting

50:50 The work was carried off in handcuffs. So we're shooting his friend over a fight, over a woman. As long as they put hookers and blow in the morning, then I'll be okay with it. So we play this Alex Jones Geraldo clip? Yeah, I think you'll be highly amused. And don't forget here again, we completely smoke screen everything and just throw this crap out there with the crazy Alex Jones and that gravelly voice. Once a star student at San Jose State, 36 year old John Patrick Bedell, the man who opened fire in front of the Pentagon last week, was a manic depressive pothead fascinated with conspiracy theories involving 9-11. I am so dead. We still don't know why he shot the two Pentagon guards before being shot and killed himself, but we do note that a blogger

51:38 connected to him suggests that criminal enterprise run out of the government could have staged the September 11 2001 terrorist attacks and that connection to the so-called 9-11 truthers is making their movement seem even more like a part of the lunatic fringe but is that fair? joining Kimberly and me from Austin oh Kimberly I know exactly who that is yeah Info babage. Texas, the same town incidentally where a tax protester recently crashed his plane into the IRS building, is radio host and a leader of the 9-11 was an inside job movement, Alex Jones. Alex, welcome. The Tea Party people shook off that IRS plane crash incident after a couple of days. Do you think you'll be similarly successful or will Bedell's misdeeds stick to the 9-11 truth or people?

52:32 Well, the plane crash guy had been a Democrat and was angry at the government. And this Bedell guy, I mean, look, he had hundreds of different beliefs. And some national polls show half of Americans, six of the ten 9-11 commissioners, question the official story. There's a wide spectrum of different debates. 9-11 Truth, most people just question the official story, prior knowledge knowledge and other issues. But the bigger question here is, why within one hour was national news reporting that the Pentagon shooter was a 9-11 truther? I mean, why is there such a vitriol by the establishment against 9-11 truth? I mean, right here I have ABC News, U.S. military wanted to provoke war with Cuba, U.S. military drafted plans to terrorize U.S. cities, staged

53:22 attacks. We know the Gulf of Tonkin was staged, so we know that governments allow attacks to happen. We know that governments sometimes actually stage attacks. We know that the underwear bomber on Christmas Day, the State Department admits they were ordered by U.S. intelligence to let him on the plane, help him get on the plane. So in a lot of cases, they open the door. That's what 9-11 Truth is saying, is that this is being used to demonize us. But, so we don't know what the truth is about this guy. He was into marijuana. Let's bring Kimberley into the discussion. The guy was into pot. Right. We have to let the information settle in your brain. So look at some boobs for a second and then just go ha ha ha.

54:00 Yeah, it's like Homer Simpson. Yeah, no, it's actually the tech that is the technique you work. That's the perfect tech. John, we need a hot ch... Oh shoot, it's only audio. That's too bad. Well, you can get some with a nice voice. Yeah, yeah. Hi, Adam and John. While everyone's thinking about what you just said, it sounds like Alex is like... I don't want to say it ma'am, but okay let's continue. Let's listen to Kimberly. Hmm. He was a manic depressive, but is Alex overreacting or is the 9-11 connection relevant? Right, I think it's an overreaction, but also you're making some very serious allegations against the US government. By the way, I'd like to point something out here.

54:39 It is a golden rule in radio. When women have a hot voice, they're double baggers. Listen to her voice. It's annoying. It's a horrible voice, which means she's super hot. Is this not the rule, John? It seems to be. It's an army field manuals to stage false flag attacks declassified 2004 but separately why within one hour were scores of newspapers and TV. You tell us why. They were demonizing 9-11 truth. Why are they so scared of 9-11?

55:24 eleven truth. Why did they do that? Within one hour, why did they bring 9-11 truth out? Why did they blame the plane crash with Joe Stack on the tea parties? Anybody question the government? But wait, Alex, wait a second. Back up a second and just take a deep breath. Why would he attack the Pentagon? What aspect of his life would make him manifested with that kind of violence against the defense department establishment? Why? Why there? Why not the- health and human services department. let me tell you, here's fox news. his parents two weeks before warned the government nothing was done. same thing with the ford hood shooter. same thing with the underwear bomber. i mean the guy was obviously a complete lunatic. i mean look at video of the guy. he looks like he's a nut from central casting. he obviously had millions of screws loose here. maybe he was a lone nut. maybe he was.

56:15 The point is to try to, within one hour, demonize 9-11 truth. This stinks to high heaven. That's what we cover in InfoWars.com, Araldo, and I'm glad you covered this. You know, I'm down with you, John. I think the guy was invited. That's why he had his nice suit on. They were like, why don't you come in? We want to talk to you about this. And of course, you're right. There's nothing at all about the colonel in this. I think you're really onto something. You know what? Memo to self if if if if I receive an invitation from the White House or the Pentagon Don't go

CHAPTER 14 / 30 Discussion

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, WTC 7

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth released a new video featuring radio transmissions from firefighters in the World Trade Center who reported only small, manageable fires before the collapse. The hosts also point out a media discrepancy regarding John Patrick Bedell's education, noting he graduated from UC Santa Cruz with a physics degree rather than just attending San Jose State as reported.

wtc 7· 9/11 truth· san jose state· uc santa cruz· physics

56:52 Don't go. Yeah, that's my guess too. Oh, we'd like to have a chat with you about Kyrgyzstan. Yeah, just come on in. We have a meeting scheduled for such and such a time. He goes in there, they all of a sudden, I like to hear from somebody in the area how they cleared the area. They clear the area, shoot the guy down, put two guns on him or whatever. Or even maybe he did, we don't know. We don't know anything. That's the point. All we do know is that they scrub the story. Meanwhile if you are interested in 9-11 truth architects and engineers for 9-11 truth have released a new video link in the show notes at no agenda show calm under the heading false flag the YouTube video called let me know when you see fire and

57:37 Which is the final 10 minutes before the collapse of the first World Trade Center building and it is essentially, well it's only 9 minutes because that's all, the last minute is not available of the firemen's audio of their radio transmissions who are everywhere from the 70th up until the 83rd floor and all they're talking about is a couple of small fires they can put out easily with one or two hoses. WTC 7 won't go away Hey, by the way, there's one more anomaly I want to mention. In all the reports, and you heard him say it over and over again, San Jose State, San Jose State, San Jose State. I don't know why they're doing this. This is kind of code. His actual graduation was from, of all places, which makes sense with the pot, University of California, Santa Cruz. He got a BS in physics there, and then he attended San Jose State, studying biochemistry for one year.

58:31 So I don't know what the deal is on that. I think, you know, possibly because the University of California is involved with, you know, something or other. They didn't want to, you know, smear their name by any means. So they figured out San Jose State, they haven't been playing ball with us anyway. So let's just make it, make him from San Jose State. So this is exactly what you pay for people. This is how, this is what you support this show for, is for us to Be able to delve into stuff and spend time on it and John I really like this you please do send me the links to There are actually run your Skype right now. Okay. This is the The scrubbed wiki stuff and all that. I mean that that's fascinating, you know, and of course and of course, you know no one's gonna say anything about the authenticity or validity of Wikipedia which of course is crap and

CHAPTER 15 / 30 Discussion

Yochi Dreazen, Wall Street Journal Writer Bio

A humorous investigation into Wall Street Journal reporter Yochi Dreazen uncovers an old biographical blurb from his time at the University of Pennsylvania. The student newspaper stub includes bizarre personal details, such as his room resembling a brothel and a claim that he has "silver dollar-sized nipples." The hosts use this to illustrate the permanence of embarrassing information on the internet.

yochi dreazen· wall street journal· daily pennsylvanian· journalism· nipples

59:26 It's total crap. Because, you know, it's like it's taken down, all the edits are gone, it's scrubbed. That's the correct word. It's completely scrubbed. The true reason why this guy was there, either by invitation or by insanity, either way. So I do have one funny little aside before we go into some of our pitch. Let me find it. So I'm researching these, the writers on the Wall Street Journal, which are Yochi Driessen, T.W. Farnham, and Stu Wu, who wrote the piece in the journal. Stu Wu, wait a minute, Stu Wu, where do I know that name from? I don't know, Stu Wu, I don't know. I think it's... Hold on a second, hold on a second.

1:00:10 Was it here? Let me just check something. Stu Wu. Did he write a book? No, he might have. I thought I had another. Well, I'll have to look. You go ahead and talk about it. It took like three people to write this article. And then I think at the end they name a number. Another one, Louise Rudnowski and Justin Shek contributed to this. How many people need to write This sort of thing just think about how many people are actually on the CIA payroll of the Wall Street Journal That's what's going on there. They're all you know they get paid by the by the placement I guess So I found this very amusing piece But I started looking up all these writers I found this this I found a stub that apparently has been sitting on the University of Pennsylvania server for I don't know how long and

1:01:00 because it was years ago that Yochi Driessen was, I guess, the editor, the news editor of the DP.com, the Daily Pennsylvanian. And so his friend, Amy Lipman, wrote his little description that was, I guess, when he was at the paper. And it's actually worth reading. His little colophon blurb? It's a little bio. Quote, he is so dedicated to his friends that I don't know how he finds the time to be so dedicated to the papers. Well, remarked Cullis Jr. and friend Ely Holler. The same attitude carries over to his love life. Friends reveal that Driessen is with between 15 and 50 girls. I'm with this guy now. From Penn Hillel alone. One friend estimated that Yochi has more women than articles he writes, but that seems highly unlikely considering that he wrote an impressive 125 articles during his two semesters as a beat reporter.

1:01:57 However, it is worth mentioning that his dorm room vaguely resembles a brothel with his green velour bedspread and a whip hanging on the wall. Could this be the same person Haller described as a big teddy bear? Yes, according to another close friend who explained that there are two Yochis, the good Yochi and the bad Yochi. She said as long as possible. No, she says as long as people point to two he's a four-round guy. A friend from high school said he was known as Big Yoach around the greater Chicago area in part because he was everyone's big brother and best friend. She wouldn't elaborate but she did hint that there was another meaning behind the nickname. Yeah, duh.

1:02:44 which is to account for all those women. On a perhaps not so, by the way, in the Wall Street Journal girls might want to know this. On a perhaps not so unrelated note, several sources close to the New City editor have confirmed that he has silver dollar-sized nipples. Okay, now I'm grossed out. Now I'm done. Now this is why I'm going to tell everybody something. This is a lesson to be learned. Do not put this sort of thing on the internet. It's still posted. Yeah, if you've got silver dollar-sized nipples don't be putting that on the net. Okay, that's bad So Yochi go find these people at the DP comm and have them take this post down The whole idea that's called DP calm is pretty funny to see how deep each I'd call so let me just play this little bit from Anderson Vanderbilt Cooper he has this this guy on John. This is the guy I was thinking of John Avalon and

CHAPTER 16 / 30 Discussion

Anderson Cooper, Fright-Wing Politics

Anderson Cooper interviews John Avlon, author of "Wingnuts," to discuss the rise of "fright-wing" politics and the proliferation of conspiracy theories on the internet. Avlon argues that the Pentagon shooter represents a "suicidal warrior" influenced by a murky ground of anti-government sentiment. The hosts mock the segment as a scripted attempt by the "mainline media" to pathologize dissent.

anderson cooper· john avlon· wingnuts· conspiracy theories· daily beast

1:03:38 uh... was written a couple books listen to what he has to say about this whole thing realistic deeper my next guest cause the panic but this is a segment digging deeper by the way anderson cooper digging deeper nice digging deeper and deeper gun shooting suspect the latest example of a suicidal warrior in an anti-government movement that's I love it. Suicidal warrior in an anti-government movement. Fantastic, Mr. Vanderbilt. ... since President Obama took office. John Avalon is the author of Wingnuts, How the Lunatic Fringe is Hijacking America. He's also senior political writer for The Daily Beast. And he's apparently... well, never mind. It's interesting, John, because there has been effort to paint this guy as a right-wing fanatic, but you say this is less about left-right politics, more about conspiracy theories gone awry. That's exactly right. If you look at what this guy's been posting about on his website, he's not screaming about President Obama per se. He is angry at the

1:04:31 government. He's talking about 9-11 conspiracy theories. He's talking about Dick Cheney more than he is President Obama. He's talking about even the JFK conspiracy theories around that assassination. So what you've got here is clearly a guy who's very mentally disturbed, but he's been drinking really good. I love that link. You're talking about the JFK assassination which Oliver Stone made a movie about it so clearly the guy is very disturbed. You're disturbed, you're crazy, you completely need to go to the hell. People need what I call fright wing politics. It's way beyond left and right. It's really that murky grout of conspiracy theories that's been proliferating on the internet and inciting some people to take it a step too far towards violence.

1:05:08 Yeah, all right. Well go look at that right wing. I like that. Yeah, it's a good one Well, these guys are setting it up there. They're told they're getting this is awesome. Awesome. Thank goodness John. There's us to Pick apart what's what's being told through the main line media? Yeah, it's total lies lies lie Oh, we got to say it three times lies lies lies and lies for good measure Indeed, it's amazing. It is absolutely amazing And well luckily we have a lot of people, well a lot, we have, you know what, you know what we really need to do? There's either two ways we can stay alive. One is we stay very small.

CHAPTER 17 / 30 Discussion

Donation Drive, No Agenda Minute Men

The hosts acknowledge various donors, including a $144 contribution from floppydisc.com and a $99.99 donation from a teacher in Nebraska. A new supporter tier called the "No Agenda Minute Men" is proposed for those donating $55.10, serving as a "royal guard" for the show. The segment emphasizes the "value-for-value" model and the necessity of listener support to remain independent from corporate advertisers.

donations· minute men· floppy discs· hookers and blow· special goodness

1:05:54 and very under the radar and no one cares about us. Or, or, or, or, and we go broke, which is by the way, is the trend. Or, we have to become multi-millionaires and be so outrageous that people can just dismiss us and we'll still get some of our message through. That's the only two ways it can go. If we actually start making too much sense, then, you know, look, I got more life to live. I don't know about you, but... Well, I know this is that we're probably you know, we probably could stumble across one of these stories every week Especially we start digging deeper into the nothing to see here stuff. Yeah, I got one of those coming up, but okay So let's go over some of our donors this week and we did close the book on this stream so I'll be posting within two weeks the names of everybody that donated to that and

1:06:46 Although there's a couple people that are still going to get on the list, but they have to do some, they can't get the money out of there. They must dance monkey boy. A lot of people can't work with PayPal, I'm gonna do some direct deposits to the No Agenda show checking account. And I'll get back to those people. Anyway, floppydisc.com. $144. They recycle, go to floppydisc.com, they give you money for floppy discs that you recycle if you have any left and then they're gonna give us a couple pennies from to the no agenda show when they get some. That's very nice.

1:07:22 David Alston $50 from Yukon, Oklahoma. He likes that the DSC and He says we ask for money more often than the Southern Baptist Church. No, we do not and Week after next is when I'm pegging the return of DSC not this week because I still have you know, like what is it called? Oh, yeah a job And I've been away so I got a lot of catching up to do but I'm gonna work nights and That's not like I'm working the nights, but I'm actually going to work nights to catch up and then next week I'm going to bring back the DSC on the stream and on the podcast. I also want to thank Tristan Leonard, Mike Westerfield, Lisa Lang, Travis Wynn and John Traynor as they move forward toward their knighthood. James McAllister gave us $50.50 from Kitchener, Ontario.

1:08:11 and he came in after he was called out for being a douchebag, I guess. Oh boy, I forgot. I didn't even have a cue. Eric Neuwirth, N-E-U-W-I-R-T-H, Neuwirth or Newworth, depending, from Frisco, Texas. Yay, Frisco. He gave us 69.69, a fine number. And he has something called the Infected Show.com. Check it out. Oh, cool. Kyle Vincent, Gothenburg, Nebraska, 99.99. We'll talk about him because he's a teacher and he has apparently this high school he's at has got a bunch of kids who listen to no agenda. Is this the guy who had the kid who does the media assassination?

1:09:03 Yeah, yeah, and he oh by the way, we're supposed to name that kid. Oh this kid. Yeah, he's a PR associate. Yeah, just let's get this kid for once again. Do I have his name? Yes, Daniel. I think yeah, let me just let me just play a little bit of it. This is what he's doing. Is it like it's just like He's doing this in public right in front of the class. This is competitive public speaking. This is the type of public speaking where you make these really deep arguments and then you get into a debate. Listen to this kid. Just his setup is so beautiful. Breaking news! The king of pop flies over Colorado in a homemade balloon landing in a golf course surrounded by 14 women.

1:09:50 Outrageous? Yes, but this is what passes for news lately. This is just a mere sample of what has been at the forefront of the media's attention in the past six months. However, none of these events has any effect on our personal lives. Contrast this with a bill in the legislature that will profoundly change how we will receive health care in this country. Anyway, the Kyle gave us $99.99 and he also said that was for tea and crumpets since he works at a school he could not Say the donation was for hookers and blow. Yeah heaven forbid. So 3333 times 3 Nick Simmons in Ottawa

1:10:52 uh... eighty one sixty one which is the school for each one and one and he said that he wants us to make sure that we note that according to all the articles i think in the end of the british papers are covering this that they were there will be uh... for the world cup in south africa forty thousand hookers in attendance That's what it says. We are in the wrong game. If only we'd learned to kick a ball, I would have been so much better. Yeah, 40,000 hookers. Instead, here we are begging for money. Let me mention one. Now from West Perth, $101.01. From West Perth, Fat Tony Zdunik sent us $101.01. Fat Tony, thanks. Scott Farland in Renfrewshire, UK.

1:11:47 He donated $5 and then got a job so he sent us $50. Ah, fantastic. And that kind of karma will come to you. Let me just mention Tom Bushey who sent me a note and just wanted his name corrected. It's not Bushy but it's Bushy. And he is the inventor of the double nickels on the dime. Donation he says he can't afford to be a knight at the moment, but he would like to found the no agenda minute men He suggests that to be a member of the no agenda minute men you need to donate fifty five dollars and ten cents that double nickels on the dime and Then they have to make a solemn pledge to be willing to come to the aid of crackpot the buzzkill or any no agenda night so it's kind of like a like a royal guard and

1:12:31 on a minute's notice and of course that you'll get a patch for your jacket. For your donation, so I like that double nickels on the dime so along with the ring we have to Get the double guys you make it as good work now. No all right. You know what but we're One of the double nickel or maybe maybe our double nickels guy can can can get candle most of this paperwork But we'll set up the double nickel dime thing and you can create a minute minute was that we do we like what we're really looking for and there's a bunch of them out there these these these CIS admins these guys and yes, they're way around a computer yeah And these guys of course will be, you know, in fact the double nickels on the dime minute men should have immediately been all over your Twitter hack to save you. Actually it was a couple of guys that... Of course! Yeah. Of course. Yeah, they contacted me within minutes. So I didn't get very far. Dorian Pippa in Katona, New York, $50.33. Something about, I don't know,

1:13:35 Ah, the preparation astounds me once again. $50 from Canyon Lake, California. And what is that? What kind of website is that? Specialgoodness.com. I don't know. It could be anything. I didn't look at it. I'll take a look. And then finally I want to say sorry, Matt Chang, $50 was not mentioned somewhere along the way. And he says as far as the media is concerned and all news, our show is the only news show he can stomach. Yeah, well. That's a direct quote.

1:14:25 And then I want to thank our producers. Are you sure it's special goodness dot-com? Yes, the special goodness. Oh see, uh-huh, the special goodness. Okay, let me check. Huh, okay. Boobs. Cool. Oh, boobs. Yeah, yeah, all right, good. So anyway, so boobs and all, Dvorak.org slash NA, channel Dvorak.com slash NA or this NoAgendaShow.com and you can link to this and help us out for next week. We're going to need more donations since we're not getting any of the founding producer stuff anymore.

CHAPTER 18 / 30 Discussion

No Agenda Stream, Inslaw and Promise Database

Plans are announced to ramp up the No Agenda stream with new audio content and interviews. The hosts briefly mention the "Inslaw" story and the "Promise" database scandal from the 1990s, noting its connection to the death of reporter Danny Casolaro. They reference an article by Harry V. Martin as a definitive but complex resource on the long-standing conspiracy.

dsc· inslaw· promise database· harry v. martin· casolaro

1:15:08 allow for something called sustaining producers for the stream and then you get Adam to do the DSC show which will be starting in two weeks. I will have another interlude finished this week. Yeah, and regardless week after next DSC coming back. By the way I need some of the regular players to start sending in some stuff so I need a prolific programmer. I need comic strip blogger. It would be great if I could get the nylon. I need these people to send me some audio because I really want to bring back a lot of the characters who I know listen to no agenda. But I'd really like to, you know, and I got some ideas. Also, there's a couple of interviews. I mean, we're really going to try and ramp up this stream.

1:15:47 with stuff that I think will augment the program. Yeah, I hope it does. And by the way, I want to mention some of our schemes that you should consider if you get a tax refund, you know, to maybe throw a little bit our way. If you break up with your girlfriend, that's the new one. If you break up with your girlfriend, send us the money and you'll be saving money. And you'll probably get either a raise or a job if you need one, because that's the common sense. Noagendashow.com, Dvorak.org, slash NA, channel Dvorak and we'll be in business. And a reminder that the reason why we ask for donations on the show is because it's the only way we can actually continue to grow the program, grow our programming in general. We will not take ads. It does not work. We cannot do it. We would not be able to speak our minds freely and we just, we would not be free men.

1:16:36 We might be dead poor men pretty soon, but we might be free men, that's for sure. The fact is as long as you want this show, dear listener, we will do the show, but you're going to have to support us. And we'll be digging away. I mean, a lot of people have to work for a living, and a lot of people have to do this and that, or a lot of people can't do what we do, or they don't have the screwball, you know, look at things. Or the guts to go out there and say what you really feel. And I'm not ashamed to say that I really truly believe in the things that we're reporting on and in the manner in which I report. I mean, a lot of people like make jokes about the earthquake machines.

1:17:13 But I think I have shown that there is, you know, there's enough documentation which I have to dig up or, you know, sort out that these things actually do exist. Our own government has been saying it. You know, there's one, by the way, there's one more thing that I think I sent a link to this for the show notes. I don't want to get into a discussion about it, but this is another thing. Just before this guy got gunned down at the Pentagon, he actually, one of his many things, it was a laundry list. He was looking at everything. He started looking at this crazy Inslaw story about the Promise database, which was in the 90s.

1:17:53 Cause a reporter to be killed and people to disappear and the whole story has never made any sense to me And I've never been able to follow but there is a link to a Harry V Martin Article which is pretty much defining the whole thing. I don't think it's ever been more Adequately discussed, but it still makes no sense to me this whole Inns law craziness, which has something to do with God knows what I don't know so I've been I think I've made the call out a couple times and I've been plowing through a lot of the emails that have come in. And the topic I'm about to broach is, I can't believe that there has not been a book about this. If you want the perfect topic for a conspiracy theory that is so vast, so big, that I immediately go, this has got to be true.

CHAPTER 19 / 30 Discussion

Global Security Fund, Leo Wanta and Reagan Protocol

Research into the "Global Security Fund" suggests a massive secret trust was established by President Reagan during the Cold War to bankrupt the Soviet Union. Leo Wanta, a former treasury insider, is identified as the executor of these funds, which are estimated to be worth trillions of dollars. The hosts discuss allegations that the "Bush-Clinton crime family" has used the money as a CIA slush fund while preventing it from returning to the U.S. Treasury.

leo wanta· global security fund· ronald reagan· slush fund· cia

1:18:44 then it would be the one time the one top Reagan Mitterrand protocol. And I asked people to do some research for me because there's really not a lot available. But of course, it's because I've been using the wrong search term. What you really want to search for is the global security fund. Now, I'm not completely done with the research because it goes very, very deep. and there's very little actual reporting on it, but of course that's because the CIA runs most mainstream media and this is one they really don't want to get out. Just in brief, John, I'll tell you the story. Apparently, in the early 90s, but really set up by President Reagan,

1:19:28 during the Cold War era. The United States and I have to do so much research there's all these presidential declarations, there's executive orders, all these things that are mentioned in these articles that I have in the show notes at noagendashow.com but I have not had the time literally to go and research all of them, but they look pretty real. So, you know, it would be pretty stupid to have published all these things and not have these executive orders be real or these Supreme Court judgments be real. But apparently what happened is during the Cold War era, the United States set aside a fund of, and of course the numbers are sketchy, it ranges between several hundred billion dollars to several trillion dollars, set aside this fund in hundreds of institutions, financial institutions across the globe, and the idea was that was kind of a rainy day fund to be used if we needed to either

1:20:27 completely bankrupt the Soviet Union or to be used as kind of a Marshall Plan if if we went down the rabbit hole that apparently we're in right now and this whole fun thing was supposed to pop open and the money was supposed to come back with interest in 2009 and Leon Wanta was a treasury insider, I think he was either a special advisor, and again this detail is still sketchy but I promise you by Thursday I'll have gone through all of these links. I said I've got to do some night time work on this. And he is the executor of this, what is known as the Global Security Fund.

1:21:12 And basically the popping of this escrow, which by account should be between $4 trillion and the number that's being bantered around is like $25 trillion, but some even as high as almost $70 trillion, has been consistently held back by the, as it's quoted everywhere, the Bush-Clinton crime family syndicate. Because the CIA has been using this money to fund terror, in fact all of these articles assert that Hillary Clinton is actually a special CIA operative with the code name The Witch, which I think is just so appropriate.

1:21:54 And they have not only been holding back this money flowing back into the coffers of the United States through the Federal Reserve, which of course is really just a clearing house, but they have also been using it as their own personal slush fund to do whatever they want. And when you start getting into these articles, in fact there's one, this is the kind of stuff that I'm always looking for. There's a YouTube video of a former minister of European Parliament, Ashley, I think it's Mote, M-O-T-E, who actually goes into this, I don't think he's an MEP anymore, but he was in 2008, when he posed the following question to the European Parliament. Mr. President,

1:22:41 May I draw your attention to the Global Security Fund, set up in the early 1990s under the auspices of Jacob Rothschild. This is a Brussels-based fund and it is no ordinary fund. It does not trade, it is not listed and has a totally different purpose. It is being used for geopolitical engineering purposes, apparently under the guidance of the intelligence services. I have previously asked about the alleged involvement of the European Union's own intelligent resources in the management of slush funds in offshore accounts and I still await a reply. So to that question I now add another.

1:23:32 What are the European Union's connections to the Global Security Fund and what relationship does it have to European Union institutions? Thank you. So I love it when you've got something like this because it shows that I'm not the only kook and of course if I got this guy Ashley Moat's website and you know he'll be expecting an invite from the Pentagon any day now. in and they act near this talk of feeding him certain types of drugs so he got Alzheimer's so he couldn't remember that he had done this anymore this guy Leo, Leo Mwanta was thrown in jail for 20 years of course they can't kill him because he has the the Swiss bank account numbers and it's all you know Paulson's involved Greenspan's involved there's all kinds of executive orders there's

1:24:38 some evidence that Obama actually has tried to help this fund pop, but of course, and this is where it comes to the global New World Order conspiracy theory, if there indeed is trillions of dollars of America's money that belongs to us that has to come back, that of course would dramatically change the The crap that that the economy is in it would dramatically change the world economy I can't even my head hurts thinking about how it would change the value of the dollar etc

1:25:15 And it goes all the way back to 1963, indeed President Kennedy, who I have to say, it sounds like he was assassinated by the CIA because what was the one thing that he wanted is he wanted to nationalize the Federal Reserve. So we're really on to something with Ron Paul wanting this audit the Fed or end the Fed and it would be beautiful It would be beautiful if Ron Paul would come into the scene with something about the Global Security Fund and where this money is, whose money is it, does it really exist, and what has been going on with this. I might write the book because it is

CHAPTER 20 / 30 Discussion

Deutsche Verteidigungsdienst, Nazi Continuum Theory

A deep-state theory involving the "Deutsche Verteidigungsdienst" (DVD) suggests a Nazi-continuum agency is operating behind global financial structures, allegedly led by George H.W. Bush. The 2006 Iron Mountain storage fire in London is cited as a potential cover-up for evidence of this global financial fraud. The hosts speculate that the CIA's drug-running operations are secondary to the control of these massive, hidden capital funds.

dvd· nazi· george h.w. bush· iron mountain· financial fraud

1:25:53 fascinating and I have to tell you... Yeah, but it's sketchy. The problem is you don't have a book because you don't know... No, but I don't need the book. Well, but I'm going to delve into this and I believe that the executive orders exist. I believe that there's already four trillion dollars which was supposed to flow back through Bank of America in 2009 that was held up and of course we know the Federal Reserve is no good. We know that there's a bunch of bankers. I mean the stories go so deep John that they actually assert that this is the so-called DVD, the Deutsche... what the hell was it called? Hold on. I mean just this is fascinating when you read this stuff.

1:26:36 DVD is Deutsche Verteidigungsdienst, as in the, that's kind of like the German, well, it's like the secret Nazi continuum agency of which George Bush senior apparently is now the big boss. It's just, it's mind boggling. It is mind boggling. Do you remember the fire in London? The Iron Mountain storage fire, which was in 2006? I don't remember it. This I did follow the links to. That fire apparently was set to cover up a lot of the evidence of this financial fraud of this global security fund which is America's money. It's just mind-boggling. I can't believe I've never heard of this before. When did you first hear about it? Maybe like two months ago. But this really, all the postings are either from 2006

1:27:33 when something was supposed to happen. You don't think it might be a red herring? You know, I've got one, two, three, like six links in the show notes at noagendashow.com listed under global security fund. Help me out. There's also some Lexus Nexus postings. I mean, at first I thought this is bull, you know, this Leon Wanta guy, he was like some kind of scam artist. But the deeper you get into it and the more these connections start to be made, and then you hear about this Pentagon shooter who's kind of on the same tip and talking about the CIA having taken over in 1963.

1:28:12 you know and then I read this family of secrets about George Bush senior who says I don't know where I was but he was in Dallas and that he was actually a CIA operative at the time. You know you connect all these things together and it is not beyond the realm of possibility that the CIA has, we've talked about the CIA wars that they have taken over, that Obama actually is kind of a good guy trying to cut these guys, he has his own agenda, but he's trying to cut these guys out and for a long time I've believed that the Bush and Clintons have been a crime syndicate running drugs and have, you know, have completely, I mean Hillary Clinton, she was the wife of Bill Clinton, she was a lawyer, now she's Secretary of State, give me a break!

1:28:57 Come on, what does it mean? It is pretty creepy. That's not so! That's, I mean, come on, she was just some woman. What do you watch? You watch Michelle Obama. There goes our female listeners. Yeah, but you watch what Michelle Obama will become, right? She's just the first lady. You watch, you watch. So, no I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that there is a huge cabal and it would have to be really, really, really big for it to be this hidden. That's the only way you can hide something huge is to make it just bigger and outrageous and outlandish. And I'm gonna stay on this...

1:29:46 Family Secrets, Economic Hit, and there's another CIA book that I was reading, I just passed word recently that was supposed to be kind of interesting. Most of the information is probably in these books, if anybody cares to read them all. Family of Secrets is really good. So what? So what? What do you mean, so what? So what? Dude, there's like 25 trillion dollars sitting out there and there's a bunch of yahoos. I know but don't you think that, well, I just don't understand why, the CIA, they're running drugs and that's where they're getting all their money. They're just running drugs to keep the funding going, that's all. But in the meantime, you've got this like the Child Welfare Fund or something that

CHAPTER 21 / 30 Discussion

General William Caldwell, Afghanistan Training Budget

General William Caldwell, commander of the NATO Training Mission in Afghanistan, details the extensive international effort to develop Afghan security forces. During a C-SPAN press conference, Caldwell reveals that the budget for this "advising and instructing" mission is just under $1 billion per month. The hosts mock Caldwell's uniform, which is heavily decorated with badges and pins, comparing him to a "hall monitor."

william caldwell· afghanistan· nato· training mission· budget

1:30:29 250 million dollars I mean a billion dollars. I'm sorry is like this all talking about well not you mentioned it Let's go into some of these clips. I have let me just mention one more book Lucifer dethroned By William and Sharon snoob Alan I've not read it yet, but it's on it's on the no agenda reading list for this week But definitely pick up a copy of family of secrets. It's not easy to get it's not available on Amazon and Okay, it's not an easy book to find. You have to go to an independent bookstore to get it. We're talking about wasting money and God knows why. There was a C-SPAN press conference with this character who is a Petraeus clone named General William Caldwell.

1:31:19 uh... who has the exact same uniform as betray us which by the way but does he have a minute men i'm sure he does because he's got at least as many badges chevrons uh... the pins uh... it's like the mass car of the new world order the guy's got the same crappy looking generals jacket with the oversized lapels that are off of like six buttons up just under your neck And so he's sitting there reading this very boring thing about what they're doing. There's a training session going on now. They're training these guys in Afghanistan. There's two things I want to mention. One is this particular piece, which is a little lengthy, so you might want to interrupt it once or twice. But the punchline is at the very end, because essentially they're sending a couple of counselors to Afghanistan. And then he says what the budget is for this thing. And I went, what?

1:32:14 And this is William Caldwell. Let's see what you uh, I know what it's called here comes hit it first of all Let me just say on behalf of the NATO train mission. I appreciate the opportunities to talk like this just Give you a quick update on what we are he's got a million buttons and pins remember that And he had a big keychain when he was a kid. I'm telling you it was a hall monitor That's what these guys if you look at the hall monitors in your school kids. That's the future of your security forces And by the way, I'm not talking about all servicemen and women, just the dipshits that run it.

1:33:10 fortunate opportunity to serve as its first commander, so we've been in existence to be exact 102 days today. A decision made last June here in NATO to form this command to represent all the different entities that have something to do with the training, the education and the development of the Afghan National Security Forces. It's a combined organization. We have over 20 different nations associated with this, with members part of our organization within Afghanistan. We have another 26 nations that contribute in some shape or form in kind with either monetary contributions or donations of equipment or other... Wow, you know what he sounds like? He sounds just like these guys. We just need cash. I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water. Just send your cash.

1:34:00 in kind with either monetary contributions or donations of equipment or other type of activities. We're made up of both NATO and non-NATO entities. We're military, we're police, and we're civilians. We have different national police officers from countries such as Italy, France, the United Kingdom, Canada, Spain and others. But not the lowlands because the Netherlands pulled out and the government tripped over their own shoelaces because of it. Each of these are contributing to both force generation and capacity building. We do mostly instructing and advising. Those are our two primary... Advising, ah.

1:34:41 Extracting and advising. Oh yes, they're like SEO consultants. They just come in and advise. Advising, yeah. We serve as instructors and advisors in helping build the Afghan National Security Forces. When we say the Afghan National Security Forces, we're talking about the Army, the police, the Army Air Corps, The medical facilities associated with those entities the logistics facilities associated with those entities And we also do infrastructure development We also are responsible for and indirectly It's an organization which I'm dual-hatted as called see dual-hatted as

1:35:25 Yes, he's a dual-headed. Yeah. Does he have a pin for that organization? Probably. Let's find out. Sticka, the Combined Security Transition Command Afghanistan, which has... Combined Transition Security Command Afghanistan. Combined Transition... Sticka. Did he actually say that? Sticka. Sticka for your butta. Sticka. called C-Sticka the Combined Security Transition Command Afghanistan which has been in existence for many years. Yes, before the war actually. But it has ministerial development so we help develop the systems inside the Ministries of Interior and Defense. Oh yes, we want total takeover.

1:36:11 Our budget that we operate with is right at about probably just under one billion US dollars per month. What? Yaks and yaks and yaks and then he drops that ball and everybody's asleep by then. I gotta hear that again. US dollars per month. Oh Wait, let's just hear him say that our budget Just under 1 billion US dollars per month. Oh my god You know, this is a perfect. This is perfect time perfect time to play I got a clip here

CHAPTER 22 / 30 Discussion

Dennis Kucinich, Resolution to End Afghanistan War

Representative Dennis Kucinich introduces a privileged resolution to end the war in Afghanistan, highlighting the disparity between war spending and domestic needs. Kucinich argues that while trillions are available for military conflict, there is no money for housing, healthcare, or education. The hosts note that the war continues despite the lack of a formal declaration by Congress.

dennis kucinich· afghanistan· war budget· congress· privileged resolution

1:36:50 Oh my god, one billion dollars a month? Yeah, so they can advise. A billion... My mouth is falling on the floor. Unbelievable, isn't it? A billion dollars a month. Wow. Let me see, I have a... Let me see if I can find this. That's what I call a budget. And it's gonna be delivered by that guy there. That's the guy who gets to spend it all. I get to spend the money. He sounds like the stapler guy, doesn't he? A little bit, yeah. Almost. I'm looking for this clip from... Here it is. Dennis Kucinich. And he really hammers this point home about this billion a month. Listen to this for a second. Washington has a lot of money. By the way, I like it that he has kind of the same voice as that guy. It has trillions for war, but no money for housing. Money for war, but no money for health care.

1:37:59 money for war but no money for education money for war no money to rebuild our cities I gotta do a mashup here the ministries of interior and defense our budget that we operate with is right at about probably just under one billion US dollars per month but money for war the Democrats took control of the Congress in 2006 where they promised to end the war in Iraq and it's not enough

1:38:35 for this administration to slow walk the end of the war, which could continue for years to come. And it's not enough for a democratic administration to escalate a war in Afghanistan at a time when there's no clear objective and no end in sight of the contribution of blood and treasure to a region which has never been conquered by any foreign country. You gotta take a look at this Kucinich clip. He's actually, he's introducing a privileged resolution, I guess somehow that's almost like a referendum and where Congress can end the war, which of course is illegal in the first place, because I don't believe Congress actually voted to go in and... No, they never declared war. There's no war. Right. So, isn't that like illegal?

CHAPTER 23 / 30 Discussion

General Lawrence Nicholson, Taliban Governance in Marjah

Brigadier General Lawrence Nicholson provides a candid assessment of the situation in Marjah, Afghanistan, noting that locals previously chose the Taliban over a corrupt and failed government. Nicholson admits that there have been no police in the region for years because the population drove them out. This narrative contradicts standard Pentagon talking points by acknowledging the Taliban's role in providing a form of governance preferred by some locals.

lawrence nicholson· marjah· taliban· afghanistan· police corruption

1:39:28 Apparently not. I don't see anyone getting thrown in the slammer. Unbelievable. So let's play, now here's another thing about this Afghanistan thing that kind of gets me. If you had one of the great Taliban leaders in Marja. Yeah, where we're guarding the poppies. And he's standing in front of you, bitching about one thing or another. Wouldn't you just shoot him? If he's bitching? Well, I mean, he's standing there and he's talking to you and you're like a soldier, let's say a general, and he's the leader of the Taliban, one of the Taliban groups, and he's moaning and groaning about something or other. What is he? Why don't you grab him or something? Yeah, we gotta grab him and waterboard him. Well, here's the question. There's a very interesting general. Now, this guy, by the way, is a man's man. He doesn't wear that crazy uniform with all those stickers and buttons on it. He must be a Marine.

1:40:28 He's Brigadier General Marine Lawrence Nicholson and he's wearing his fatigues and he's talking like this. And by the way, I want to do a couple things on the next show that we do about uniforms because, before I do this, I'm going to give you a quiz. I want you to describe to me, tell me which, if it's Army or Navy, I'm going to describe two uniforms and I want you to tell me which one's Army and which one's Navy. Uniform number one, black shoes. Black pants. Khaki short-sleeve short. Uniform number two. Uniform number two. Black shoes. Navy blue pants. White short-sleeve short. The one I just described, blue pants or navy blue pants, black shoes, white shirt, short sleeve. Army. The one I described earlier was navy.

1:41:26 They've changed all the uniforms and the army uniforms are so faggy, no offense to anybody who doesn't take that term the right way, but I mean they're just crap that they are, um... Nobody wears them. If you ever see army guys floating around, they're wearing their fatigues or wearing some camouflage or they're wearing anything but these uniforms. If I wanted to take the uniform even further, it's a navy blue pants, a stupid looking white shirt that looks very much like the guy in Falling Down, Michael Douglas, wearing it with a pen in the pocket. It's on the army site. There's a pen in the pocket. It's a short sleeve white shirt and you're wearing a beret.

1:42:07 So you either look like a French screwball, they've cheapened the Green Beret Rangers hat and so everyone wears them now. There's no more of the so-called the cunt cap. And the outfit looks terrible. So all the army guys, you've never seen anyone wearing this uniform because it's embarrassing. All right, let's get to this Marine. This is Brigadier General Lawrence Nicholson. All right. Yeah, I had a great sure the other day. I was in City Market. I think on day five or six and there was that he sounds like Balmer Steve Balmer developers developers developers all right for 40 or 50 elders that showed up and they were one of the first guys to make any kind of appearance because everyone had pretty well been locked down in their houses and

1:42:56 But in the military, this fellow stood up, and this was reported somewhere, but an individual stood up and said, he pointed at the Americans and said, hey, I like the Americans. The Americans built Marjah. And I said, what? They built Marjah? That's what he says. Yeah, for the poppies. Trust the Americans. And then he pointed to some Afghan leaders and said, but I don't trust you because in the past, you know, you've you've represented a failed and corrupt government. You know, my words, not his. But essentially, that was the theme. And then he said, I'm a Taliban, I'm a Taliban leader, and we're all Taliban here. And then he said, the amazing thing was he pointed at the Afghan leader and said, I'm gonna give you a chance. And you have a limited amount of time to prove to me that you're not the old government. Because I think one of the great talking points right now of the new Afghan government that's coming into Marjah is, hey, we're not the guys from three, four years ago. We're different.

1:43:59 and you need to give us a shot, you need to give us a chance to earn your trust. So I think that's a positive, but that's why I'm so very impatient that we've got to get in here and we've got to start demonstrating and earning that trust. I found all right Okay, now that was mixed me I consider this a mixed message because this is this guy's obviously not towing some Pentagon line He's just telling these stories that he's in the field from the field and says the talking points. Yeah, he is there now uh... and it's this is a long connection so he gives mixed message number two where he goes on and is that has another anecdote which is rather peculiar and it's a it did just nothing that we've heard we didn't hear about this and four years ago being some sort of a fiasco i mean we knew was a fiasco overall but we didn't know about this sort of thing in the taliban's relationship to everybody is is is all the you know we're not

1:44:55 This guy's got a different story to tell for some reason. He's a Brigadier General. I am sure he's going to get chewed out for this. And this particular message number two, I'm sure will put his icing on the cake. Yeah, no, great, great question. I just want to be clear and maybe I want to clear on one piece. There has been no police. There have been no police in Marjam for the last many years. What? We built that place without police. So it's not a question of coming in here and trying to get the old police out. The old police were driven out, frankly, by the locals and the locals probably working with the Taliban.

1:45:31 And this is probably what is so important here to understand is that, back to my opening statement, is that the population voted. And they chose the Taliban. And they chose the Taliban because a couple years ago, they felt that the police and the government that represented them did not serve them well and was probably corrupt. I really feel that we have that opportunity now to bring in new police, bring in fresh police after they're trained and after they've been vetted. Right now in Mauritius we have 600 ANCOP which are the national police.

1:46:14 So have we heard this narrative anywhere? Well yeah, on no agenda. I mean, we know that the Taliban actually like decimated the poppy fields, like everything's under control. Yeah, they had some weird, weird ideas about stuff, but that's not my problem, okay? We got enough problems. Anyway, I found the whole thing to be disturbing. But this general is going to end up losing a star or something, I think, because this is not the Pentagon talking points. No. How many stars does he have? Is he a brigadier? I think that's... Three stars. Something like that. I think it's three. I'm not sure. And now, back to real news. Yes, this comes from Gitmo Nation East. McDonald's has received a seal of approval

CHAPTER 24 / 30 Discussion

McDonald's Health Branding, Swiss Boy Condoms

In New Zealand, Weight Watchers has officially branded McDonald's Chicken McNuggets as a "healthy choice," sparking criticism of corporate health labeling. Meanwhile, the Swiss AIDS Federation has launched "Hot Shot" condoms specifically designed for boys aged 12 and up. The hosts cite these stories as examples of the "nasty stuff" occurring globally under the guise of public health.

mcdonald's· weight watchers· condoms· switzerland· hot shot

1:47:04 and a badge and a logo in New Zealand for their chicken McNuggets from Weight Watchers. Weight Watchers actually has branded the chicken McNuggets as a healthy choice down there in New Zealand, which I think is... Looks like the Brigadier General, by the way, is a one star. I'm just going to move ahead with a couple other things because I'm really... By the way, I would like to say that John and I have nothing against the men and women who serve in our armed forces. At least not these crazy people who seem to be running them. We've got a lot of people in the service who email us, contact us, give us inside information. There's some horrible things. We've got one listener

1:47:54 who emailed me, you know, he can't even, he was moved from Iraq and he had to go back for a second tour and he'll be going to Afghanistan and his wife was pregnant, she had to move house without him and they won't even send some of the troops, some of the guys back home over to help her out with a move. I mean, they treat him like shit. It's crazy, just freaking crazy. Switzerland, a leading condom manufacturer, has created a condom called the Hot Shot which is extra small for and targeted specifically for boys 12 and up. And it's called the Hot Shot which is my favorite. And of course this is coming from the Swiss AIDS Federation who campaigned to have the condoms made available. The Hot Shot made for your little weenie. It's nuts. It's completely nuts.

CHAPTER 25 / 30 Discussion

Bill Gates TED Talk, Population Reduction and Vaccines

During a TED Talk on CO2 emissions, Bill Gates presents a mathematical equation for reducing carbon output that includes global population as a key factor. Gates suggests that "new vaccines, healthcare, and reproductive health services" could lower the projected population by 10 to 15 percent. The hosts question how vaccines, which are traditionally intended to save lives, could be used as a tool for population reduction.

bill gates· ted talk· vaccines· population control· co2

1:48:55 Now the thing that, did you see this Bill Gates at TED? This has been circulating for the past week. People are going crazy about this. Did you see him? Is this the newest one or is this the one about the mosquitoes from a while back? No, no, this is the newest one. This is about, you gotta, I'm not even gonna say it. I'm gonna, let me just get this set up to 55 seconds. That's where it starts. And I'm just gonna let you listen to it and then you tell me if you didn't hear what I heard when Bill Gates 26 billion tons for each American. It's about 20 talking about co2 people in poor countries It's less than one ton. It's an average about five tons for everyone on the planet and somehow we have to make changes that will bring that down to zero and

1:49:42 It's been constantly going up. It's only various economic changes that have even flattened it at all. So we have to go from rapidly rising to falling and falling all the way to zero. This equation has four factors, a little bit of multiplication. So you've got a thing on the left, CO2, that you want to get to zero. And that's going to be based on the number of people. the services each person's using on average, the energy on average for each service, and the CO2 being put out per unit of energy. So let's look at each one of these and see how we can get this down to zero. Probably one of these numbers is going to have to get pretty near to zero. That's back from high school algebra, but let's take a look.

1:50:31 First we've got population. Now the world today has 6.8 billion people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent. Did you hear what I heard? Yeah. He said if we do a really good job on vaccines, we can lower the amount of people. That's what he said. Did I hear that wrong? Am I misunderstanding something? Yeah. Wouldn't that be exactly the opposite? If you do really good on vaccines, won't people live?

1:51:10 It would seem so, yeah. Well, he's got some cockamamie thought that if people are vaccinated, they won't have... He believes, and I said this before, it gets misinterpreted a little bit, although I may not be... Oh, please! How can I misinterpret that? He says it quite clearly. We have to lower the amount of people. He says that if you get people vaccinated, then people will live longer, so they won't have so many kids. Because the only reason they're having so many kids is not because they like kids, it's because they're dying off on them. They have to make more kids. No, it's because they don't have the hot shot condom. That's why. That's what you need. Yeah, sure. Of course, Bill Gates now in his Gulfstream can fly around, you know, and hang out with Gore and the rest of them. It's the old, you know, I'm in the submarine, shut the hatch, dive, you know, who cares what else? Screw everybody else.

1:51:58 is a very annoying characteristic. Under the elites heading, there's more, you know, I'm trying to step away from it but it's so hard, it keeps getting thrown in my face, these pedophiles running the world. There's this kid in the UK, I think it was in, let me see, it's probably in the article here, 10 or 12 years ago, there were these two boys, these 10-year-old boys, and they killed a two-year-old. And one of those names is John Venable. This was the front page news in Gitmo Nation East yesterday and today. And he and some other kid killed this two-year-old kid named James Bulger. I was living over here so I kind of remember that. So they, after like, I don't know, like seven or eight years, because you know they were convicted when they were 10.

CHAPTER 26 / 30 Discussion

John Venables, Madeleine McCann and Child Sex Rings

The re-arrest of John Venables, one of the killers of toddler James Bulger, has sparked rumors in the UK regarding high-level cover-ups of child sex rings. The hosts link the secrecy surrounding Venables' new crimes to the Madeleine McCann disappearance and alleged involvement of high-ranking government officials. They express concern over the "pedophiles running the world" and the dangers of investigating these connections.

john venables· james bulger· madeleine mccann· child sex rings· uk

1:51:10 It would seem so, yeah. Well, he's got some cockamamie thought that if people are vaccinated, they won't have... He believes, and I said this before, it gets misinterpreted a little bit, although I may not be... Oh, please! How can I misinterpret that? He says it quite clearly. We have to lower the amount of people. He says that if you get people vaccinated, then people will live longer, so they won't have so many kids. Because the only reason they're having so many kids is not because they like kids, it's because they're dying off on them. They have to make more kids. No, it's because they don't have the hot shot condom. That's why. That's what you need. Yeah, sure. Of course, Bill Gates now in his Gulfstream can fly around, you know, and hang out with Gore and the rest of them. It's the old, you know, I'm in the submarine, shut the hatch, dive, you know, who cares what else? Screw everybody else.

1:51:58 is a very annoying characteristic. Under the elites heading, there's more, you know, I'm trying to step away from it but it's so hard, it keeps getting thrown in my face, these pedophiles running the world. There's this kid in the UK, I think it was in, let me see, it's probably in the article here, 10 or 12 years ago, there were these two boys, these 10-year-old boys, and they killed a two-year-old. And one of those names is John Venable. This was the front page news in Gitmo Nation East yesterday and today. And he and some other kid killed this two-year-old kid named James Bulger. I was living over here so I kind of remember that. So they, after like, I don't know, like seven or eight years, because you know they were convicted when they were 10.

1:52:54 After seven or eight years they were let go and they just pulled this kid back one of these two kids and threw him back in jail Saying that I you know he was on drugs and doing weird stuff and and when you read between the lines It sounds to me like this guy was about to pop some news about you know more sex you know, child sex rings or some shit like that that's going on. And of course, the government won't tell anyone why they've re-arrested him and thrown him back in jail. And right along with that comes, remember Madeleine McCann? The girl who was abducted in Portugal? Yeah. So, wow. When you read through this,

1:53:43 This is and you've just got to go through it yourself in the show notes of no agenda show calm But there's so many connections to high-ranking government officials that are involved in this case Your mouth will drop open it really and again. I'm more afraid of talking about this than anything, so I will post the links We really try to do a good job on these show notes, so you can take a look at that yourself, but man There's some bad shit going on in the world John. There's really nasty stuff It's just it's bad. It's just bad and it frightens me somewhat. I'm glad I don't have small kids anymore

CHAPTER 27 / 30 Discussion

Greek Debt Crisis, Goldman Sachs and Austerity

The financial crisis in Greece is characterized as a scam orchestrated by Goldman Sachs to sell oversubscribed bonds while imposing "austerity measures" on the public. These measures include raising the retirement age and seizing pension funds, which the hosts describe as a form of modern slavery. Similar economic pressures are predicted for Portugal and Spain as part of a broader European financial strategy.

greece· goldman sachs· austerity· pensions· bonds

1:54:26 Really? It's frightening me. Hey, I listened to Dvorak Horowitz on plug and I thought you guys were actually on to something pretty good about about Greece being a scam? About the whole... Was this just a scam to sell bonds? Was that what was going on? We don't know the root of it yet, but it has something to do with your buddies over there at Wall Street. What's the name of that company? Goldman Sachs, perhaps? Goldman Sachs. So a bond was issued. It's oversubscribed, so of course that's going to be a huge windfall. At the same time,

1:55:07 What they call, what is it? Austerity measures. Which essentially means Well, this happened in the Netherlands a couple of years ago and of course in Gitmo lowlands no one really protests about it. It was like, well, you know, they take your pension money and how do they do that? By saying, well, we've all got to tighten our belts so you can't retire until you're 67. Instead of 65, it's got to be 67. So they're doing that in Greece, they're going to do it in Portugal, they're going to do it in Spain. That's slavery and they're screwing you out of your money. They're taking away your pension literally two years worth unbelievable unbelievable And yeah, and of course this is barely in the news barely. Yep. What can I say?

CHAPTER 28 / 30 Discussion

California Gubernatorial Race, Jerry Brown vs. Meg Whitman

The California governor's race is shaping up as a battle between former eBay CEO Meg Whitman and veteran politician Jerry Brown. Whitman is expected to outspend Brown significantly, using attack ads to question the Republican credentials of her opponents. Brown, described as "Governor Moonbeam," is noted for his eccentric history, including studying Zen in Japan and working with Mother Teresa, which the hosts believe gives him a unique political charm.

jerry brown· meg whitman· california· governor· election

1:56:04 So, uh... Do some more clips. I'm getting depressed. My show notes are actually depressing me. Yeah, I'm noticing. Well, let's do something a little more interesting. We're at the end of the show, we might as well do a little local politics that are going to amuse people. First of all, in California here we have an election that's going to boil down to the ex-CEO of eBay, Meg Whitman, running against Jerry Brown, who is... He's been around forever. He's been around forever and I don't think he can be beaten if anybody wanted to beat him. I think he is a mystic and he can beat anybody. And he has enough money to do it. He's loaded, right? Well, she's got more money. She's going to triple him. And by the way, the media is going to push Meg Whitman as hard as they can because Meg Whitman has got the money to spend.

1:56:52 And they don't want the other guy winning, this other character. By the way, play the Whitman attack ad on her opponent. Yeah, I've been seeing this one around. Why we can't trust Steve Poizner. Reason 21. Steve Poizner gave $10,000 to help Al Gore try to win the 2000 presidential election. And you thought Poizner was a Republican. Anyway, so there's stuff like that going on. So she's gonna play dirty if she can. But she's gonna drop a lot of dough and the media knows that they need the money. Yeah, of course. And so the media is gonna push for Meg to get in there and fight it out with Brown, who's probably only gonna spend about half of what she spends.

1:57:33 But Brown is such a character. He was the original, you know, Governor Moonbeam. If he wins the election, which I believe he will easily, he will have been the youngest governor in the history of the United States and the oldest governor in the history of the United States. Will he clear up our half a trillion dollar deficit in California? Who knows? The fact is it's unlikely. But listen to him. There's a number of interviews out there with him. I just pulled a little clip from a Jerry Brown interview which shows you the kind of, he has a peculiar charm. I met him a couple years ago when he was the mayor of Oakland and he's just completely disconnected from reality from what I can tell. But he has this charming quality that is just

1:58:18 It's just hard to explain and I just can't see anybody beating this guy. Listen to this. You darted all around you ran for president Yeah, you know what, that was a dumb move. I acknowledge that. So you've been an office holder in California, I think, what, 41 years? Well, no, wait a minute. I did other things. Not only did I go to Africa with Linda Ronstadt, I went to Calcutta to work with Mother Teresa. I've been in Japan studying Zen for six months. Very unusual. Very healthy for for egotistical politicians to reflect on their own emptiness. That's a very important exercise. It's funny, it almost sounded like you went, Linda Ronstadt, yeah I banged her. Mother Teresa, I tapped that ass. That's exactly what it sounded like.

1:59:03 What are you talking about man? Yeah, by the way Bob Geldof was on on the news this morning calling in from Nairobi dude about the whole You know the money from LiveAid going to rebels. He is pissed off He's yelling and screaming and not a shred of evidence and the BBC stands by their story And oh that thing's gonna get out of hand. It's great. No good. Yeah, I So I just wanted to finish with one last little clip which is a boring reading of a new book on that just came out, it was on some books over the weekend, and it was about, it's about this, one of the first and most important lobbyists in the history of the United States government back in the 1800s, named Sam Ward. And they talk about how in 2000, it actually was in 94, this is a typical of the Democrats, but in 94, they screwed up the ability for, for,

CHAPTER 29 / 30 Discussion

Lobbying History, Social Interaction in Congress

A new book on 19th-century lobbyist Sam Ward prompts a discussion on the decline of social interaction in Washington D.C. The hosts argue that strict 1995 and 2007 lobbying disclosure rules, which banned free meals for members of Congress, have increased political contentiousness. They suggest that the loss of the "social lobby" and the "three martini lunch" has prevented lawmakers from building the personal relationships necessary for effective governance.

sam ward· lobbying· congress· three martini lunch· social lobby

1:58:18 It's just hard to explain and I just can't see anybody beating this guy. Listen to this. You darted all around you ran for president Yeah, you know what, that was a dumb move. I acknowledge that. So you've been an office holder in California, I think, what, 41 years? Well, no, wait a minute. I did other things. Not only did I go to Africa with Linda Ronstadt, I went to Calcutta to work with Mother Teresa. I've been in Japan studying Zen for six months. Very unusual. Very healthy for for egotistical politicians to reflect on their own emptiness. That's a very important exercise. It's funny, it almost sounded like you went, Linda Ronstadt, yeah I banged her. Mother Teresa, I tapped that ass. That's exactly what it sounded like.

1:59:03 What are you talking about man? Yeah, by the way Bob Geldof was on on the news this morning calling in from Nairobi dude about the whole You know the money from LiveAid going to rebels. He is pissed off He's yelling and screaming and not a shred of evidence and the BBC stands by their story And oh that thing's gonna get out of hand. It's great. No good. Yeah, I So I just wanted to finish with one last little clip which is a boring reading of a new book on that just came out, it was on some books over the weekend, and it was about, it's about this, one of the first and most important lobbyists in the history of the United States government back in the 1800s, named Sam Ward. And they talk about how in 2000, it actually was in 94, this is a typical of the Democrats, but in 94, they screwed up the ability for, for,

2:00:04 lobbyists that throw these big banquets and I think it's kind of a mistake but you just play this for a second. Is this Sam Ward? Yeah. In the 1990s hearings into lobby activities confirmed that the social lobby was alive and well in Washington. So well, so important and so effective in fact that dinners and entertaining were specifically singled out for special rules in the 1995 lobbying disclosure lack Lobbying Disclosure Act that were tightened further in 2007. One can almost hear Sam sputter with indignation upon learning that neither members nor their aides can accept free meals from registered lobbyists.

2:00:45 Despite this closer scrutiny, the... Is she in high school? Yeah, it's pretty grim. It's pretty grim. Let me explain something that I thought that came to mind during this. I don't know about you, but every once in a while I get invited to some dinner and... Yeah, I always wind up paying you, loser. I get invited to some dinner, it's usually like a big corporate thing and you sit either with the CEO or with some CTO, you're with a table of people. I usually try to avoid these things but sometimes I go. And you always have these initial impressions of some of these people and some of them you think are boneheads, some of you think are jerks.

2:01:20 But after when you're having dinner with them and drinking and eating and chatting, sometimes you guys will turn around. You'd say, well, this is a pretty cool character. You know, it might be the CEO who whatever. And you get to know the guy a little bit over, over, you know, a good meal at a good restaurant with good wine, which apparently was par for the course until 94. So of course, you don't, you have to remember also in 78, they killed the three martini lunch, which was another mechanism, a social mechanism that was needed. And ever since then, if people always talk about the contentiousness of Congress, about the Republicans and Democrats hating each other and trying to pull all this stuff, they don't socialize with each other anymore. So nobody knows anybody. It's just a bunch of strangers or people in two different clubs or it's like two football teams. And I think that I think they should loosen up these rules, including the three martini lunch, and they should go back to letting lobbyists throw money away.

2:02:11 and the rest of it because I think the way things are going now it's just an absolute disaster. I think this is part of the reason why. It's got nothing to do with you buying dinner. Yeah, clearly. Anyway, that's my thought of the day. It's not a it's not worthy of a pet peeve, but I'll give it your thought of the day. Yes, not quite a peep. So let me just tell you the stuff that we actually could not get to today because we need to do three shows and we need to quit our day jobs. Here are just a few of the things that you will find in the show notes but undiscussed on the program and by the time Thursday rolls around we'll be on to other stuff. So it would be great to be able to do another show somewhere in the meantime. We have some inside dirt on the International Olympic Committee and how corrupt they are.

2:02:57 Huge, something I actually do want to try and get on along with the global security fund is this Canadian water scandal which involves nine judges who have received two to the head or have died in other mysterious circumstances. a woman who killed her husband who and the woman is a lobbyist that's also interesting kind of ties into what you were talking about. A whole bunch of stuff from Gitmo Nation East United Kingdom, which is without a doubt the model of where the rest of the United States of Europe is headed with RFID chips and two and a half million trash cans so the council can fine you if you don't throw out the right things in the right bin. Police in the UK being outfitted with mobile fingerprint scanners

CHAPTER 30 / 30 Discussion

International News Round-up, Show Outro

The episode concludes with a rapid-fire list of undiscussed topics, including corruption in the International Olympic Committee, a Canadian water scandal, and the proliferation of RFID-chipped trash cans in the UK. A report from the Netherlands indicates that 1.5 million internet connections were wiretapped in 2009. The hosts sign off with a final appeal for donations and a reminder of the "value-for-value" philosophy.

olympics· rfid· wiretaps· nafta· canada

2:02:11 and the rest of it because I think the way things are going now it's just an absolute disaster. I think this is part of the reason why. It's got nothing to do with you buying dinner. Yeah, clearly. Anyway, that's my thought of the day. It's not a it's not worthy of a pet peeve, but I'll give it your thought of the day. Yes, not quite a peep. So let me just tell you the stuff that we actually could not get to today because we need to do three shows and we need to quit our day jobs. Here are just a few of the things that you will find in the show notes but undiscussed on the program and by the time Thursday rolls around we'll be on to other stuff. So it would be great to be able to do another show somewhere in the meantime. We have some inside dirt on the International Olympic Committee and how corrupt they are.

2:02:57 Huge, something I actually do want to try and get on along with the global security fund is this Canadian water scandal which involves nine judges who have received two to the head or have died in other mysterious circumstances. a woman who killed her husband who and the woman is a lobbyist that's also interesting kind of ties into what you were talking about. A whole bunch of stuff from Gitmo Nation East United Kingdom, which is without a doubt the model of where the rest of the United States of Europe is headed with RFID chips and two and a half million trash cans so the council can fine you if you don't throw out the right things in the right bin. Police in the UK being outfitted with mobile fingerprint scanners

2:03:56 Of course, teachers having to report on kids when they say nasty things on the playground, the teachers have to report them into a government database. We have the kid who used his finger to point at someone and said bang and then he was immediately For it was he was expelled suspended Dutch internet wiretaps just fantastic article from the standard to let you know how things are going in the lowlands in 2009

2:04:33 There were wiretaps placed on 1.5 million internet connections in Gitmo Nation lowlands. I'll repeat that. 1.5 million internet connections, wiretaps, reading your email. and uh... crap man that's just the other thing i want to do something else parking spots that are all now electronic eyes in san francisco was that also by the way the canadians are changing their national anthem to be more gender neutral Really? So that's that's a people are going to sell one of our producers wrote in saying you know this is what they so what do they do they take this time off in Parliament and they try to screw with our national anthem so there you go. There was also something weird about NAFTA. Wasn't there something about NAFTA that... Yeah we have to look into a couple of number of things so we'll be back

2:05:27 on Thursday at borak.org slash NA. We need our donations for the week if you don't mind. And we do not actually ask as much as the Southern Baptist Church, but don't forget the Southern Baptist Church, they're actually looking you in the face with a bucket in their hands when they're asking, which is a little different when you're passing the bucket around than we do, which is virtual. We have a virtual bucket. Value for value is what I say. That's the only way to look at it. And if you find value in this program, then give us some value. And we'll continue to strive towards making this our full-time vocation. I'm physically spent right now. Absolutely spent. I'm ready to get up and take a shower and go to work. Yeah, right. All right, John. So no dinner this week?

2:06:22 I know we'll have a lunch on Wednesday. Okay, lunch on Wednesday, good. And we'll be back with you on Thursday. I'm very much looking forward to it. Coming to you from Gitmo Nation lowlands, under siege of the United States of Europe, in Amsterdam, the Netherlands, from the 17th Century Canal House Crackpot Command Center. In the morning, I'm Adam Currie. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the sun is shining and the birds are chirping, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll be back on Thursday with early service right here on NOAgenda.