Episode 1791 · Sunday, 17 August 2025

Bolt Muncher

A red carpet summit in the Alaskan wilderness resets the geopolitical board while Silicon Valley faces a backlash over AI fashion models and digital companionship.

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Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin met for a high-stakes summit in Alaska this August, sparking intense scrutiny over the event's optics and strategic outcomes. Critics including Representative Jason Crow and Fiona Hill condemned the use of a B-2 bomber flyover and a red carpet for the Russian leader, while Representative Eric Swalwell questioned if the lack of a ceasefire agreement signals a shift in American alliances. The meeting featured a symbolic visit to a burial site for Russian pilots, highlighting a historical airbridge through Alaska that Putin used to frame a new era of business cooperation.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio defended the administration's mediation, noting that negotiator Steve Witkoff is pursuing Article 5-like security guarantees for Ukraine. Meanwhile, EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen proposed a steel porcupine strategy to arm Ukraine with a massive drone industry, potentially involving Eric Schmidt. In the United States, Bill Gates detailed plans for mRNA vaccine expansion and digital IDs to CNET, as medical experts like Dr. Celine Gounder addressed a sharp rise in colon cancer among adults under 54. The episode also tracks the return of the New World screwworm parasite to Texas, a resurgence Governor Greg Abbott links to pandemic-era disruptions in sterile insect programs.

Volodymyr Zelensky called for a trilateral summit to protect Ukrainian territorial integrity, warning that the constitution forbids trading land for peace. The segment on AI fashion models at Vogue and Guess prompted a debate on digital cultural appropriation, while an NPR experiment with an AI yoga instructor named Javier explored the limits of digital companionship. Executive Producer Jay Trotter reported on a trend toward traditionalism among Florida youth, who have reportedly adopted new slurs for robots like bolt muncher and battery burner.


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CHAPTER 01 / 27 Discussion

Alaska Summit, Trump and Putin Meeting Staging

Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin met for a high-stakes summit in Alaska in August 2025. Critics like Fiona Hill and Margaret Brennan analyzed the optics of the event, specifically the use of a B-2 bomber flyover and a long red carpet walk for the Russian leader. Some observers questioned if the individual appearing in Alaska was the real Putin or a body double due to physical differences.

donald trump· vladimir putin· alaska summit· margaret brennan· fiona hill· b-2 bomber· red carpet

00:00 D'oh! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday August 17th 2025 This is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1791 This is no agenda Wrapping the red carpet and Broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody thinks Putin won! I'm John C. Dvorak Oh man. It's tiring, it's tiring... It's just tiring everything is so tiring Everybody's all- Whoa! That was no good but he did? Oh No! He's yahoo here

00:53 That's pretty much all I've heard for the last 36 hours. So did you see Margaret Brennan? I have Margaret Brennan, and I have the clips with Rubio! I have everything! I'm ready to go if you want to hear it i got them all! I think Rubio holds his own but...I don't know what it is about Pete. I think people dislike him but I think he's one of the best at arguing well So let's, because yes everything was rolling this morning on the clip machines. And we start with Margaret Grennan with... Grennan. That's her new name, Margaret Grennan. She looks more like a grennin than anything. Here she is with Fiona Hill just to get us into the mood. Good morning Margaret. Well Fiona you were an advisor during that infamous Helsinki summit in 2018 You've spoken about that in the past I wonder what- Stop stop stop

01:56 We have to mention, so everyone's predisposed to thinking this way. Okay That that that this woman who used to work for Trump but she's with Brookings Yeah, Brookings Institute yeah the very subversive... The Brookings is right up there with the Council on Foreign Relations and the WEF and they're the ones that Nixon thought should be burnt to the ground this operation. Yeah, well that's the obvious reason why we have to put her on first just to get into the mood of you know of the globalist mainstream media who do not like at all, at all what is taking place here. What you think about how this Alaska summit compared? Well it sucked of course! Well obviously quite different in many respects part of it was the fact that they decided to skip

02:49 uh... the one-on-one meeting and uh... the lunch i mean these usually part of this sort of sex all of us on it's like that's not great states kids the lunch mister they skipped a lunch as we know there is no evidence that you have to say so that they were going to work out One on one for three hours. I don't know what she's talking about and during that period of time the lunch was served Well, but you know this only starving him out somebody left the highly confidential menu documents on the printer which just shows you how horrible this whole administration is. The menu was leaked! I desperately tried to find a clip and all i could find was Hindu times and Times of India, and those are just AI generated slop videos no one really did a story on NPR did an article

03:44 But no one really went all the way to do a, oh I can't believe it clutching my pearls bit. So anyway let's continue with this bit with Fiona. And the press conference obviously was more of an announcement or set of announcements presentations by both leaders much more by President Putin and more of a commentary by President Trump so there wasn't that free for all of press questions which i'm sure was a bit disconcerting few in others who were present at Alaska Very disconcerting for you, Margaret that you couldn't ask questions. But the optics weren't exactly great as Congressman Crow has laid out for the United States and President Trump again. I mean again different

04:26 But although it was presented as perhaps a show of power by being at US Air Force Base with the flight passing of the B-52s and other fighter jets, it did certainly look much more like a show of appreciation for Vladimir Putin. And so the optics were really much more favorable to Putin than they were to the United States. It really looked like Putin had set the agenda there, the narrative and in many respects the tone for the whole summit meeting." What an idiot! So first of all it was a B-2 bomber... Not a B-52! Like the B-52's ROCK LOBSTER! No, there was the B-2 bomber. And I thought the staging was phenomenal! The big Alaska 2025... You got your red carpets you got Oh the staging and the whole thing looked like a TV show they had the whole thing set up that way. And the way it was setup is Putin had to walk across A mile To meet his host President Trump's very big power move and he was happy He was like buh buh I will say

05:29 I'm not entirely convinced this was the actual Putin. I agree, I look at a whole bunch of different... No, I agree! I'm like, I don't know if this is the Putin that would be supposed to be there? Because it was a lot of talk in fact there was a couple of people on Twitter saying they should shoot him and and i'm surprised that haven't been kicked off the platform for these kinds of things. Shoot who? Shoot Putin?! Yeah, but there's a couple of lunatics I went to look at this, well I can't remember the guy's name because a long ago blocked him with some lefty and yeah they advocated shooting him. And I found that to be distressing and the...I think there was a question as to the safety

06:17 So it wouldn't be surprising in the least if Putin, that was a Putin double. It didn't look like him he didn't have the same kind of scowling mouth his cheeks were little puffier which is because of course of the cancer that he has we all know that he's dying It's been dying for him ever since the show began. Yeah, so but I guess if he was carrying the official message then what difference at this point does it make? But still a little disappointing to see what I clearly thought was not the real Putin Anyway continue with Fiona and then we'll go back to Jason Crowe who she was referring to just again So we can

06:57 get the stage of the mainstream. Who is a Democrat Trump hater from Aurora, Colorado? Yes! That's why it's so fun to listen to one more from Fiona here because you know we're just out in sense I tell ya You know the president has a team of advisors around him and in traditional administration those advisors would be setting the policy they would be planning the optics and they would be thinking through that do you think that the president's teams set him up for success here Oh goodness gracious. It may well have been that one of the demands, because we've heard from Secretary Rubio which I have to say was a very fair assessment of where things are so it may well be that one of the demands by the Russians is to make any progress in moving further forward was actually have that kind show of pomp and pageantry that basically marks Putin's re-entry Hold on a second

07:49 When you fly our awesome B-2 bomber, because it just looks cool. Not on the ground those wonky legs don't look cool but when it's flying over... I mean that to me said yeah bitch! Look up! How can anyone see that differently? Oh we're honoring you Mr Putin. I don't understand how that can be the takeaway if you're got a skewed perspective. Oh okay, into international affairs maybe the Russians said to them in Moscow either to Steve Whitcoff or to Secretary Rubio or to anybody else that basically they wanted to have a major US-Russia bilateral summit appearance before they would move on to the nitty gritty of anything else in Ukraine that's you know to give them all the benefits of the doubt there but it all now depends on what

08:42 comes out of this. And I think again, Secretary Rubio made it very clear that it's not going to be easy he was certainly downplaying any expectations of a major breakthrough but he did say that there was something that might be possible and I think that's what's gonna be the proof whether this is actually worth all the effort they went through in Alaska or not. Blah blah blah... okay so I'm playing these in reverse order Just to get all the idiots out of the way. So now we go to Jason Crowe. On Ukraine, you know that the US intelligence assessment is that the battlefield is turning in Russia's favor despite the fact that Putin has to rely on Iran and North Korea to keep this thing going

CHAPTER 02 / 27 Discussion

Jason Crow, Criticism of US Foreign Policy and Pomp

Representative Jason Crow criticized the Alaska summit as a historic embarrassment for the United States. Crow argued that Vladimir Putin only responds to economic sanctions, diplomatic isolation, and military defeat rather than ceremonial displays of power. He specifically condemned the use of US military personnel to roll out a red carpet for the Russian leader.

jason crow· ukraine· sanctions· pariah state· red carpet· military-industrial complex

09:22 If neither President Biden, by the way I love that little Oh they have to rely on Iran and North Korea is a dinky little country. And Iran's got issues of their own but somehow the giant Russian Federation has to rely on those two otherwise it fall apart give me a break. But this is Well, we'll get to the analysis. Let's just take it as the hits come here. Doesn't the secretary have a point that it has to be hammered out at the negotiating table? You know, this absolutely will end at a negotiating table like most conflicts will. But what happened on Friday was an historic embarrassment for the United States there's no other way to put it

10:18 Go all the way. your adversary. What is making Vladimir Putin tick in this instance? Vladimir Putin does not care about the amount of time that we're allocating, does not care about a B2 bomber flyover, does not care about a lineup- Well wait a minute if this was all kowtowing to Putin but why doesn't he care then it was a failure I guess if he doesn't care

10:57 These people about the amount of time that we're allocating does not care about a B2 bomber flyover, does not care about a lineup of F-22 fighters rolled out. He doesn't care about any of that but Vladimir Putin cares about is basically three things he cares about economic pressure in the form of sanctions. He cares about political diplomatic isolation being a pariah state and he cares about military defeat Those are the three things that will end this conflict. If he feels pressure on all of those three fronts, and this administration continues to be unwilling to do anything to assert pressure in any of those three areas. Okay? There's no sanctions or anything like that but when did the representative from Colorado become such an expert on what Putin cares about?

11:44 Other than just the drinking club, I guess? Well he's an ex-military guy. He's on the House Armed Forces Committee Yeah, but I guess he's an expert. But then he just hates that everyone Everyone in the m5m just hated the red carpet this with this one That is only for our Hollywood celebrities We don't do it for foreign heads or pariah states They were freaked out about the red carpet They did not like it look at what happened on Friday Look at what happened people US military personnel and uniform In uniform No, literally were on their hands and knees rolling out a red carpet for the most murderous dictator of the 21st century Somebody who is kidnapped? The most murderers dictator. I thought that was Yahoo He got it all wrong and his holding prisoner tens of thousands of Ukrainian children somebody who started this whole war right this bull sides ISM that the administration is engaging in that both sides seem to come to the table negotiate Ukraine as the victim

CHAPTER 03 / 27 Discussion

Eric Swalwell, European Security Concerns and Russian Assets

Representative Eric Swalwell expressed concern that European allies feel abandoned following the lack of concrete achievements at the Alaska summit. Swalwell questioned whether Donald Trump is acting as a Russian asset, comparing the Alaska press conference to the 2018 Helsinki summit. He noted the absence of a ceasefire agreement or territorial exchange proposals following the meeting.

eric swalwell· volodymyr zelensky· nato· russian asset· helsinki summit· ceasefire

12:47 They are the victim. They didn't start this war, Russia did and somehow we keep on acting like Vladimir Putin deserves to be brought out into the open like any other head of state. This is a historic embarrassment and defeat for US foreign policy. Goodness these people are living in the 70s or at least their policies before we even get to Rubio which is next Did you see Swalwell doing the rounds? Yes, Swalwell was doing the rounds. I saw this. Wearing a Ukrainian t-shirt kind of like a drab olive pretty much Zelensky's night shirt. Does he think that beard looks good on him? And it and he should brush his teeth maybe that just video artifacts but looks a little skanky

13:36 Anyway, here's his like a bum. Here's his one-minute take your sense of where this goes from here Well if you're Europe you're quite worried now because you just saw the president United States achieve Zero and they will have to ask themselves What more are they willing to do knowing that day two could be thrown under the bus if Russia ever moved? farther west but As far as objectives, I was hoping to hear that there would be a trilateral meeting. That didn't come out of this. I was hoping to hear there'd be a ceasefire. That didn't come out of this and I was hoping at least here about the territory that would be proposed or exchanged by both sides. That didn't come out of us. Look Alicia

14:16 I don't know if Donald Trump is or is not a Russian asset. I do know that at press conferences like this and like at Helsinki, he certainly acts like one and that is cold comfort for anyone in the United States particularly our military that the commander-in-chief would be so flattering of and so charming to a ruthless dictator like Vladimir Putin So where was he hold on a second? Where was he flattering to Putin Putin's the one who is flattering him red carpet, baby The red carpet was flattering The pomp and the hello my friend Vladimir, it was just flattering. They didn't treat him like the murderous dictator that he is! And we just need to reset for one moment because history gets papered over as it always does and works in some cases. I have some reminder clips here... Why don't we do a reminder clip before we get to Rubio?

CHAPTER 04 / 27 Discussion

Dmitry Polyansky, Russian Perspective on Historical Conflict Roots

Dmitry Polyansky, Russia's Deputy Representative to the United Nations, provided the Kremlin's perspective on the conflict's origins, citing the 2014 coup in Ukraine as the true starting point. Polyansky claimed that millions of Ukrainians in Russia seek to preserve their language and Orthodox faith. He suggested that Donald Trump is beginning to process historical information that was previously distorted by Western media.

dmitry polyansky· united nations· mariupol· zelensky· 2014 coup· orthodox church

15:17 Okay, well here's the reminder clip. This was on BBC... No I think it might have been BBC but it could have been yeah it was BBC this is Trump Putin anal Oh anal not the regular opener? No, this is the Trump-Putin anal. You and... This is the Russian United Nations ambassador and he is giving a story— By the way if you're new to the show that's short for analysis it's just a long running joke don't be upset It's not a joke I use that term because it makes the length of the clip name shorter —It's the only word you spell correctly

16:04 Because it's all uppercase. Just to make sure I know what it is, but I'm with you just helping people who are new to the show. Oh, I was just naming the clip and didn't even think of the double entendre. Yeah, I know because we're beyond that but there sometimes there are new listeners Oh, I see. We have a bunch of people with dirty minds. Okay well anyway here's the anal from Russia. There is a different standpoint and there are a lot of people who are now in Mariupol and who are very happy about this fact and you can't deny it. So, it depends very much on your standpoint and also you should take into account views of about 7 million Ukrainians who found refuge in Russia after this whole thing started they also have their position they want to be identified as Russian speakers they want to preserve their belief in a canonical Orthodox Church They don't want to be harassed by the Zelensky regime This is also their choice

17:02 and it should be respected. President Trump here. President Trump only a few days ago mentioned the potential for serious consequences if the fighting didn't end, serious consequences for Moscow they've gone away now haven't they? President Trump is undoubtedly clever man he takes decision on the basis of what he hears and what he processes what he understands So he now had a very good opportunity for an in-depth discussion with President Putin. I think this is fruitful for him and this is fruitful for us as well to better understand each other's standpoint, and it there... It's absolutely no surprise to me that President Trump made certain conclusions that would change his positions which he took based on some distorted information and even misinterpretation of certain of our statements. And who was this guy who was talking?

18:00 He's the ambassador of the United Nations from Russia. Ah, okay all right but where is the history lesson? So he goes on I have one more clip from him where he talks about the history and then i want to play Mearsheimer who's another character in the analysis play so let's watch you. What are the European position now that EU's top diplomat Kayakalis once the prime minister of Estonia has said quote the harsh reality is that Russia has no intention of ending this war anytime soon and she sees the summit in Alaska as President Putin's way of extending this process without actually resolving the fighting at all. That's true isn't it?

18:44 leading the witness. Maybe it's true according to the distorted vision of Ms. Callas and her colleagues, because the problem in Europe now is that they don't have a strategic vision about what's happening they have only Russophobia and the notion of zero-sum games in their mind and that's not something you will have positive outcome during negotiations So, you know that we from the outset were against any military exercises and efforts to solve the crisis. We were making a lot of proposals which were rejected

19:21 And then it started when we didn't have any other choice. It started when you invaded Ukraine and since then 13,500 civilians in Ukraine have been killed? Sorry with all due respect it started much earlier in 2014 when the West created anti-Russia as a result of anti constitutional coup and its very hard to deny it and that's the problem with Europe to show that it all started in 2022 and it didn't happen in the vacuum. There were a lot of things prior to this, and it's very good that President Trump now realizes that he has certain history which should be taken into consideration isn't it good? Briefly if I may with one more is president Putin willing to meet President Zelenskyy in the coming days and weeks

20:09 President Putin never denied the possibility of meeting President Zelensky. Is he willing to meet him? That's a slightly different... I'm not, I am not president Putin and I can't say whether he will or is willing or not. Would you like him to? I'm judging from his statement and then processing his statements so He said that such a meeting should be well prepared And we are not yet there So that i think where we stand right now Dmitry Polyansky, thank you very much. Russia's first deputy representative to the United Nations. So the piece that is just... I mean he's alluding to it but let's just call a spade a spade The United States, the nut jobs in the...I'll just call it the Victorian Newlands of the world They're the ones that started this they're the ones that have hated Russia with complete disdain

CHAPTER 05 / 27 Discussion

John Mearsheimer, Secondary Sanctions and Global War Economy

Professor John Mearsheimer analyzed Donald Trump's shift away from imposing secondary sanctions on India and China for purchasing Russian oil. Mearsheimer suggested that Trump is attempting to pass the responsibility for a peace deal to Volodymyr Zelensky and European leaders. The discussion highlights how European nations have transitioned into war economies that benefit from ongoing conflict and military manufacturing.

john mearsheimer· secondary sanctions· india· china· volodymyr zelensky· war economy

21:02 F the EU, by the way was what she said. Who cares? We just want to get these Russians! We just want the Russians mainly to steal their stuff you know... What was it five billion from Chevron this is like we're the bad guys here and now we're trying to set it all straight and no but no one remembers no one remembers past 2022 there's no more history And we're just two old boomers who remember stuff. We had John Brennan, the head of the CIA in Ukraine at the time. Let's not forget the downing of the Malaysian aircraft which was consistently blamed on Russia thanks to open source intelligence such as Bellingcat. Whatever happened to them? Yeah well their funding stopped. No, the whole thing was set up by us

22:12 and we're trying to get out of it, and we want to forget these past facts. Can we play the Mearsheimer clip? This is Mearshimer. Who was Mearsheimer? Mearsheimer's a professor who has been in and out of the news a lot. He's probably anti-Trump, probably a Democrat but he's got good analysis and this was part of a long podcast, one of the spin off podcasts And these guys, they always get these guys on. And he thinks Trump didn't know what the hell was going... This is only part of a long hour or so of him yacking away but this is good part but just as a summary

22:57 He believes Trump didn't know what the hell he was doing. He didn't understand the situation, his very short-term memory doesn't know anything about 2014 thing really. It's just a lot of this and that and he... makes the assertion that Trump made a mistake when he promised secondary sanctions on the oil going to India and China, and found a way out of his own dilemma with this meeting. And now you could back off in that idea because you realize it wasn't a good one And here's some summary that he kind of wraps with. I think there is one very important dimension to what Trump said, that we don't want to lose sight of. Yes called Dimension B and that is...I think he's passing the torch to Zelensky. Yes! I think in a very important way Trump has come to understand that he can't settle this one

23:58 There's no way he can agree Trump to a peace agreement and convince the Ukrainians, the Europeans and the Western foreign policy establishment that that's the smart thing to do. He can't convince Putin to agree to a ceasefire so what can Trump do? And of course what Zelensky says he should do is put secondary sanctions on Russia we could talk about that because this meeting was in good part about secondary sanctions and Trump's interest in secondary sanctions in the past. But Trump understands, he was asked afterwards what this means for secondary sanctions. There are going to be no secondary sanctions at least at this point says Trump so the sanctions are off the table. The ceasefire is off the table. Trump has basically agreed with Putin that you gotta go directly. He said that she gotta go directly through a peace agreement

24:53 So, Zelensky comes to the White House. What does this mean? He's basically saying I believe that Zelensky and the Europeans can now sit down with Putin and they can work this out if they need me, I'll be there but it's up to them. I'm not going to cut a deal and then try and force it down the throats of the Ukrainians in the Europeans because they don't want to go along with me. So, if you listen to the press conference this is what you were playing. He said it's ultimately up to them he said he's gonna call NATO, he's gonna call the Ukrainians but what happens is and these were his words It is ultimately up to them But that's exactly what the truth is And I think before we get to Rubio here

25:48 The Europeans don't want peace. They have no economy, as Macron said war economy as Pieper said we're going into debt We're changing our car companies into tank building companies They need an enemy so whatever the outcome it has to be unsettled because they need to continue milk the European citizenry of their money and print it, which is the same thing. It's also stealing so that they can continue to have any kind of economy and maybe President Putin also kind of needs that himself The way the sanctions are not on Swift And you know yeah You can still sell oil to China in India and doesn't really want secondary sanctions

26:43 But the entire Western, and so are we by the way. We're now selling the gear! Well at least were not giving it away... No that's better but you know there is no outrage over our stuff killing people. Okay? And, you know that was the whole NATO 5%. It was first 2% and we're not doing it. Then I want five because I really want three and a half." He gets three and a half they're buying it from us they make hundreds of billions of euros available to buy our stuff so right now in a global war economy and we actually have another out We don't really need this one because we've got China! Taiwan! China ships submarines bases

27:28 So, we're covered. And I don't think any of these people really want a deal at least not one that doesn't include war machinery Your thoughts John C DeVore? I go! What say you? Well, we have both concluded that the Europeans are warmongers in general. They have a war mentality they've always had this it's been a problem with them all the time this is one of the reasons our country was formed in the first place true and to get away from them. And that's where I find the father says, let's stay out of these guys' business because they're just going to kill each other is what they like to do. And that's what they're going to continue to do. I see no evidence at the contrary this is gonna change. So Marco Rubio who

CHAPTER 06 / 27 Discussion

Marco Rubio, Peace Negotiations and Article 5 Guarantees

Secretary of State Marco Rubio defended the administration's focus on ending the war in Ukraine, noting that significant progress was made during the Alaska talks. Rubio emphasized that while the US facilitates the meeting, the final terms must be agreed upon by Ukraine and Russia. Negotiator Steve Witkoff revealed that "Article 5-like" security guarantees and legislative enshrinements regarding territorial sovereignty were key points of the discussion.

marco rubio· margaret brennan· steve witkoff· article 5· donetsk· peace agreement

28:20 You know, of course if you walk around Fredericksburg and say Marco... Oh can't trust him. He's a snake in disguise! And why is that? I have no idea. What has he done that's snake-like? Dancing. He was a dancer. Suspicious. That's Ripper. Suspicious. Is this Chippendale? Look, I didn't even know if he was at Chippendale. He probably didn't make it to the Chippendale leagues But he's very gracious in this interview, first by... For a while. To start off—well first of all he sounds like oh my god I can't believe i have to talk to this woman here This is horrible Yes she does not like talking to her And then he just skips over the whole what really started this which is kind of gracious towards his predecessors Which President Trump is not but here we go Good morning to you Mr Secretary Good morning

29:17 Good morning. I really why am i here? Good morning to you, Mr Secretary. Good morning Thank You Vladimir Putin did not give President Trump the ceasefire he sought and now Putin says the root causes of The conflict have to be resolved in a peace agreement Isn't the root cause the fact that Russia invaded in the first place Oh boy, oh boy. Well ultimately yeah but I mean what he means by root causes is long historical complaints that we've heard repeatedly this is not a new argument he's been making this for a long time and it's the argument that its Western encroachment I don't want to get into just so long with the bottom line is... See but see I this bothers me a little bit and I didn't want to get into it you need... Yeah could have brought the 2014 thing up He could have brought a lot of

30:04 Yeah, and but again I just think he's being gracious or I don't know but towards the Biden administration and predecessors. But okay, all right. I don't want to bring it up moving forward. And that's a very difficult thing to do. It is very difficult because Ukraine obviously feels harmed and rightfully so, because they were invaded and the Russian side because they feel like they've got momentum in the battlefield and frankly don't care. They don't seem to care very much about how many Russian soldiers die in this endeavor. They just churn through it

30:51 So I think what the president deserves a lot of credit for is the amount of time and energy that his administration is placing on reaching a peace agreement. For a war that's not a war that started under him, it's half, you know, it's on the other side of the world That said, I mean, it's relevant to us but there are a lot of other issues he could be focused on so tomorrow we'll be meeting with President Zelensky We'll be meeting with European leaders who just met with Putin He's dedicated a lot of time and energy because he has made it a priority of his administration to stop wars or prevent them. And right now this is the biggest war going on in the world, it's the biggest war in Europe since World War II We're gonna continue do everything we can to reach an agreement that ends the dying and killing and suffering thats going on right now

31:32 All right, so by the way I think someone slipped him some gigawatt because you know he's sparking up a little bit. I should wake up here this is important it's going to be played on the no agenda show i gotta get some clips for the boys well You know this well how long these kind of diplomatic negotiations often take president trump was telling european leaders What was discussed was Putin demanding control of Donetsk, a region in the east that his forces do not fully hold. And the UK estimates that taking that full area could be as long as another four years. Putin also is demanding Russian to be an official language in Ukraine and something regarding Russian Orthodox churches did the US... Something! Oh no! Just something about Orthodox? The other guy had it right

32:19 Those areas are Russian-speaking already. Yeah, and they want to be Russian! And they want to keep speaking Russian because you have to remember that the Ukrainian government made it a crime to speak Russian in the Russian speaking areas They don't want all the Ukrainians speaking Russian like she said. They don't want all the Ukrainians being part of the Russian Orthodox Church like she said, She's full of shit! But my question from a media analyst standpoint

32:58 Why are they like this? Is this only to hate on Trump for midterms, for Democrat wins or is it... Yes! Or wait before you answer. Or is this because they're part of the war machine and just want more war in the world which is good for overall business It's good for her business too If everything's great I mean go look at news.google.com Tell me there's one happy story There's no happy stories in there. But is that why? Is the globalist structure... No, it's the first reason. The second reason is just a bonus. Okay but they hate Trump because of the things he's doing not just because of who he is because of the things he's doing which is counterintuitive to the war of the world

33:52 So ultimately it all comes down to they want war, they want strife. They want people angry at each other? Am I missing something? Well, what you're missing I think is that the Democrats in general were always the peaceniks and it had the role reversal took place where they're pro-war. And they don't really...I don't believe that they actually want to be pro war. They're just kind of in that position because Trump is such a peacenik he's like 60s peacenik and they don't know what to...they are beside themselves but the whole thing they figure can be resolved by winning

34:29 the 2026 midterms and then impeaching him again. They think that's the solution to everything, right? So they can go back to being warmongers it all comes down to war I don't think they want...I think they'd rather go back to being peaceniks but they have to rid themselves of this Trump thing Oh please! The military-industrial complex has a hold on them No, the military industrial complex is maybe controlling them but i don't think that their in their hearts oh they have good hearts I don't know if they have good hearts or not. I'm not a mind reader, but it's just... They've put themselves in a position where it is just awkward the Democrats are in an very awkward philosophical position and they don't know what to do about that That's one of the reasons they're so screwed up Okay we continue Language in Ukraine and something regarding Russian Orthodox churches did the US accept

35:25 all of what Putin laid out at that table? I'm not going to tell you, honey. The United States is not in a position to accept anything or reject anything because ultimately it's up to the Ukrainians they're the ones that Russia has to make peace with Well, the president said he did come to some agreement It's up to the Ukrainians to make these conditions Well, the agreements were that we were going to try to do things like for example get a leader's meeting. We have to make enough progress so that we can sit down President Zelensky and President Putin in the same place which is what President Zelensky has been asking for and reach a final agreement that ends this war Now there was some concepts and ideas discussed that we know the Ukrainians could be very supportive of in that meeting I don't think it's...we're not gonna negotiate this in the media I understand everybody wants to know what happened

36:05 But ultimately there are things that were discussed as part of this meeting, that are potentials for breakthroughs. That are potentials for progress We'll be discussing that more in depth tomorrow with our European allies and the Ukrainians who will come over. We'll be discussing all these things because ultimately we do need to find areas where we're making progress and try to begin narrowing the gap between the two sides But there's a reason why this war has been going on for three and half years. And that is when it comes to the big issues here, there are still some big differences between both sides Let's see how much progress we can continue to make It's not been easy but it's something the president made as priority Peace! And he deserves a lot of credit for that

36:41 And I think another part of the problem here is that because it's the Trump administration, the media is not read in on everything continuously all the time from leakers and just handed a memo. You know, here's what was discussed. Here's your story don't worry about doing any work The only thing they got truly from the president was this. I believe we had a very productive meeting there were many many points that Agreed on most of them. I would say a couple of big ones That we haven't quite gotten there, but we've made some headway So there's no deal until there's a deal. I will call up NATO in a little while. We'll call up The various people that I think are appropriate and of course call our president Zelensky and tell him about today's meeting it's also ultimately up to them they're gonna have to agree with what

37:36 Marco and Steve and some of the great people from the Trump administration who've come here But we had an extremely productive meeting, and many points were agreed to And there are just a very few that are left. Some are not that significant One is probably the most significant but we have a very good chance of getting ther Okay, before we come back to Rubio I just want to go on a little side trip here. To our anti-constitutional douchebag Fareed Zakaria who of course whenever it's something of international concern we need to bring in Fareed Zakaria because you know he is an elite and knows everything

CHAPTER 07 / 27 Discussion

Fareed Zakaria, Globalist Reactions to Alaska Summit

Fareed Zakaria and Jake Tapper discussed the "cringeworthy" atmospherics of the Alaska summit, expressing relief that no formal deal was reached. Zakaria claimed that Putin used flattery, including suggestions that Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, to avoid making substantive concessions. The analysis suggests globalist entities are frustrated by Trump's refusal to follow traditional diplomatic scripts.

fareed zakaria· jake tapper· cnn· nobel peace prize· hillary clinton· globalism

38:18 And he just took it one step further with Tapper. goal. Well, no but that's wrong we can't have peace! But it does appear there really wasn't anything concrete achieved no ceasefire, no sanctions relief or sanctions imposed We don't really know where we are other than Putin got himself a summit in Alaska What do you make of what we just saw?

38:54 Yeah, I think you have it right Jake. Look the atmospherics of the entire summit was somewhat cringe-worthy The fact that Putin was being welcomed on American soil The fact that Trump gave him literally a red carpet treatment the kind he has rarely given to any You know Democratic ally of the United States What? It's unbelievable. This guy who gladly walks the red carpet of the White House Correspondents Dinner... The atmospherics were cringeworthy, I tell you. Somewhat cringe-worthy the fact that Putin was being welcomed on American soil the fact that Trump gave him literally a red carpet treatment the kind he has rarely given to any democratic ally of the United States You can tell... Most democratic allies are welcomed by the president personally at the front door of the White House

39:51 This was pretty remote compared to that. Yeah, up in the middle of nowhere Alaska at an Air Force base with our jets and our bombers flying over so it was just so red carpet. I think Putin is you know is as equal as this big shot on the world stage and he's been treated by the rest of the West as a kind of pariah. I mean, he can't go to Europe because he'd be arrested and so there was a lot of the atmospherics that were cringe-worthy but i will say on the most important thing at least for me it was positive that there was no deal. I think everyone was worried that there was going to be a deal in which Trump was going to make major concessions

40:33 I don't think anyone thought Putin was going to make any concessions. The fear was that Donald Trump was going to cave in various ways, sell out Ukraine, sell out the Europeans and he didn't do that! Oh we dodged the bullet at least you didn't sell out the Europeans this Zakaria guy is unbelievable now in this next bit In this next bit, I didn't get this. I missed this one guys it pot. This literally popped up in the feed so i'm very grateful for the algo today Do you remember our prop bets because Zakaria runs through a couple of these? And i don't really remember our prop bets do you remember the ones that we had? I'm sorry Our prop bets

41:19 Oh, the prop bets. Yeah! Do you remember what we had on different prop bets? I don't know if I have the list here... Do you have the list because Zakaria brings up a few of them and as i was listening to him like I can kind of remember him if you bring it up. Okay, well let's see... It is short so we'll just run through it. You know, I'm at least relieved now when you watch it what you saw was Putin had clearly decided his strategy was he was going to make no substantive concessions of any kind But he was going to really amp up the flattery of Trump. So, he says if Trump had been president there would have been no war which is easy for him to say now Trump should get the Nobel Prize He's amazing... He did not say that!

42:05 I watched that was one of the prop bets. That was a prop bet, but he didn't say that now He did say no he didn't I don't remember him saying that either and I got to prop it right here I watched the whole thing in fact who wouldn't you endorse Trump for Nobel prizes five two Yeah But but it didn't happen so we would have lost lost our nuts on that But he did say and this was the very end of the as you call them wait wait Hillary Clinton said he should get the Nobel Peace Prize. Correct, she said she would endorse him yes and she looked haggard when she said it whoo boy so but what happened to ever since her girl married married the Soros kid

42:51 Hillary's appearance has gone downhill. Well it is because of the lack of attention or adrenochrome one or the other all right so he says if Trump had been president there would have been no war which is easy for him to say now Trump should get the Nobel Prize, he said he was amazing He didn't say he was amazing I specifically listened to the whole thing. Did not say he was amazing! All that, you know... It's cheap and easy rhetoric for Putin but he laid that on thick But at the end of the day He made no concessions So Trump comes back empty handed but in a way better to come back empty handed than to have given away a quarter of Ukraine

43:37 Like, I mean where does he come up with this? There's no... we can't give away Ukraine. We can't give- we have no.. we don't have these powers. This is a- Brennan also did the same thing Why didn't Trump demand? Why didn't Trump demand? Yeah, because that's... We can't make demands. This is not our... we're not in this war except for the fact that we sell machinery. Except for the fact you started it! Oh yeah, except for the fact that we started it but that's beside the point. It didn't mean we didn't do... But this is the thinking of the globalists The globalist thinks when they're in charge they do control everything That's their thinking That's why they are always saying Trump is a dictator You know, what you say be yourself Like we want to be the dictator Not Trump

CHAPTER 08 / 27 Discussion

European Leaders, Washington Meeting and Bullying Narratives

European leaders including Ursula von der Leyen and Keir Starmer prepared to travel to Washington for follow-up meetings with Volodymyr Zelensky. Media narratives suggested the Europeans were attending to prevent Zelensky from being "bullied" by Donald Trump into a bad deal. Steve Witkoff clarified that the US is acting as a mediator and that the rapid follow-up meeting in the Oval Office aims to hammer out a permanent peace deal quickly.

ursula von der leyen· keir starmer· mark rutte· volodymyr zelensky· oval office· steve witkoff

44:21 Because that guy, he just makes... tries to make peace bad. No! Zakaria is exactly in the same circles of people who would think they are in charge of the world like that So now we go back to Margaret Brennan with Rubio because we now know that Vladimir, or as Tina called him this morning Voldemort. She didn't do it purposely but I kind of liked it so Voldemort is coming tomorrow and all of a sudden all the EU leaders are coming Queen Ursula, Keir Starmer Of course they're going

45:00 Mark Rutte will be there to make sure that we still are buying weapons. We have to be afraid of Russia because they will be the threat, the threat for at least the next 10 years so we have to keep them in the thread because I'm a sales guy And Margaret Brennan thinks that this is for the following reason. This is the best one. President Trump told Fox News his advice to President Zelensky is make a deal, Russia's a very big power and they're not you know there was concern from the Europeans that president Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing something away That's why you have these European leaders coming as backup tomorrow

45:41 Can you reassure that? No it isn't. That's not why they're coming us back, that's no true This is so good! You know that all the European leaders Queen Ursula They have to come with him because they are afraid he'll be bullied like the last time he was bullied in the White House In the Oval Office I should mention this This is great which is that they have been replaying, the media has been all the media has been replaying that old clip where Trump bullied. He didn't really bully him but he gave them grief in the White House it's old and then they had a lot of meetings ever since this was the original meeting when Trump was irked because Zelensky wouldn't even wear our suit comes in there and he starts

46:32 Acting like an idiot. Well, no he was they were supposed to sign the deal and the mineral deal and he didn't sign it Right inside this deal Yeah yeah so but by the way I have They keep playing this old clip all last week It's entertainment! For what Bran just said It's entertainment of course that was the teaser now we got We all know because we played the clips of the bullying it's gonna happen again Can you reassure them? No it isn't That is not true But that's not true. They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky from being bullied, They're not coming. In fact, they're coming here tomorrow because- That February Oval Office meeting in front of television cameras where President Zelensky was dressed down... Do you know how many meetings we've had since then? Oh no I know and I was just up in Alaska watching the one with Vladimir Putin where red carpet rolls rolled out for the Russian leader It's very different We had more meetings We've had one meeting with Putin and like a dozen meetings with Zelensky So that but that's not true They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelenski from being bullied They're coming here tomorrow because we've been working with the Europeans We talked to them last week there were meetings in the UK over the Lafayette

47:32 followed the previous weekend. And they said President Trump was going to demand a ceasefire as early as Thursday, but you said that they're coming here tomorrow to keep Zelensky for being bullied? They're not coming here tomorrow! This is such a stupid media narrative that they're coming here tomorrow because Trump is gonna bully Zelensky into a bad deal we've been working with these people for weeks on this stuff. They're coming here tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow We invited them to come. WE invited them to come The president invited them to come And we'll go to Queen Ursula in a moment who spoke this morning but one more, uh... One last clip here from Mark. It says Marco finally the gigawatt kicked in But the president told those European leaders last week that he wanted to cease fire The president went on television said he would walk out of the meeting if Vladimir Putin didn't agree He didn't walk out of the meeting!

48:19 He said there would be severe consequences if he didn't agree to one. He said, he'd walk out in two minutes. He spent three hours talking to Vladimir Putin and he did not get one! He was getting his instructions from Vladimir Putin of course So there's some mixed messages. Because obviously something, things happened during that meeting well because obviously things look our goal here is not to stage some production for the world to say oh how dramatic he walked out our goal here is to have a peace agreement to end this war okay and obviously we felt and I agreed that there was enough progress not a lot of progress but enough progress made in those talks to allow us to move to the next phase. If not, we wouldn't be having Zelensky flying all the way over here We wouldn't have all of the Europeans coming over here Now understand and take with a grain of salt I'm not saying that were on the verge of peace deal but i am saying that we saw movement enough movement to justify it follow-up meeting with Zelenskiy and the Europeans enough movements for us to dedicate even more time to this you talk about the sanctions look at the end of the day if peace is not going to possible here and this is just gonna continue on as a war

49:17 People will continue to die by the thousands. The president has that option to then come in and impose new sanctions, but if he did this now the moment the president puts those additional sanctions That's the end of the talks You've basically locked in at least another year two year and a half of war and death and destruction We may unfortunately wind up there But we don't want to wind up there. We want to wind up with a peace deal that ends this war so Ukraine can go on with the rest of their lives and rebuild their country, and be assured that this is never going to happen again. That's the goal here. We're going to do everything possible to make that happen if it's doable. It will require both sides to make concessions. It will require both sides to get things they're asking for. That's how these deals are made whether we like it or not

49:56 I got two more from Witkoff because Witkoff has been the main negotiator. He's met with Putin several times, all these people like Rubio and Witkoff they do these interviews like to have a gun to their head. Okay well listen I'll do Brennan but you gotta do Tapper oh man why do i have to do Tapper? He's such a douchebag. But what is this? Did they pre-agree and listen, producer I'm gonna give Tapper two. Okay that's all i'm giving him

50:58 I mean, that's a very odd way to stage. That is very strange. He could have said Can you tell us some or any couple? A couple would've been better. Anything but specifically two agreed to you were in the room can you give us two specific points that were agreed to we agree We agreed Jake first of all thank you for having me and good morning We agreed to robust security guarantees that I would describe as game-changing. We didn't think that we were anywhere close to agreeing to Article 5 protection from the United States, legislative enshrinement within the Russian Federation not to go after any other territory when the peace deal is codified, legislative enshrinement in the Russian Federation

51:51 not to go after any other European countries and violate their sovereignty. So we agreed, and there was plenty more. So Tapper goes, no. Oh that was so it's like a shocker but that was the most informative one minute of audio tape I got he said there will be article 5 like protections just to remind everybody NATO Article five if you strike If you strike one of us, you strike all of us. We all band together as NATO and we come into... You get bombed. You get bombed exactly so in Article 5 like protection is a huge concession not sure what it means yet And we're not even sure well but... Whitcoff knows what it means Well bear with me

52:49 Because I think we can find out what that is, Article 5-like. So that doesn't necessarily mean NATO but article five like and the second thing he says is it will be enshrined into their legislation which I guess means legally they'll agree to it that Ukraine won't take any territory after this deal was done and Russia won't take any territory That to me sounds like there's a real deal in the making And all Tapper does is huh And that, listen... I know. Like because Can you elaborate more? He could have said he could have said well that's fascinating. Yeah what do you think he said? What was the cause I have the exact follow up what did he say after that statement which was the most informative of all of the talks coming straight from the guy who was there who speaks English without the weave but i think i'm like oh dad I can guess exactly what he said okay

53:45 He said, he says huh which is an opening. Huh can you uh uh is there so was that assured? Was it does that look like that's the kind of the deal that's going to go through and do you think that'll be part of the final uh the final determination something along those lines you think that so you did so that sounds like a very positive thing You think that's gonna happen That's what he said Obviously My my partner is being very facetious here on the show. No because he knows that It's a little show it CNN is Jake Tapper no That's not what he did we go from the disdain huh into his next bit

54:30 Here's what President Trump said going into the meeting about the need for a ceasefire. Let's roll that tape. I want to see it cease fire rapidly, I don't know if it is gonna be today but I'm not gonna be happy if its not today Everyone said it can't be today but I am just saying I want the killing to stop. I mean this to stop the killing Obviously the cease-fire didn't happen Last night Russia launched more than 60 aerial attacks across Ukraine killing at least 5 people injuring 11. President Trump had said if he didn't like what he was hearing in the meeting, he would walk out Why didn't he once it became clear Putin was not going to agree to a ceasefire which would end the bloodshed now? This is the meeting they had Alright everybody when you go after the fact that Trump-Trump The orange man That he said he would WALK OUT Margaret, you got that Yeah I got that

55:18 Martha, you got it? Yeah I got that. They all did it! You said he would walk out in two minutes He didn't walk out What's wrong with him?! What does Vladimir have on him!? Do they have Kompromat That's the meeting they had Yes, you're exactly right that they all asked the same question and did the exact same thing in this regard. Yep? Jake, the one thing... we were there as a mediator so we were obviously advancing the Ukrainian view The one thing that the president cannot agree to on behalf of the Ukrainians is any sort of land swap That is for the Ukrainians They've asked us

55:59 or stated that to us and the president is respectful of it but that's why we're moving so quickly to a meeting on Monday at the Oval Office with President Zelensky. That being said, we covered almost all the other issues necessary for a peace deal So, I describe the ceasefire as the interim move where you would then negotiate towards a peace deal. We made so much progress at this meeting with regard to all the other ingredients necessary for a peace deal that President Trump pivoted to that place

56:35 Now, we're not waiting a week for meeting with President Zelensky and the European leaders or two weeks or three weeks. We're going into a meeting with them within 48 hours of ending this meeting in Alaska so we are intent on trying to hammer out a peace deal that ends the fighting permanently very very quickly quicker than a ceasefire. Okay Now we go to Europe. This morning, Queen Ursula and Prince Zelensky had their little talk in Brussels in the EU Commission press room

CHAPTER 09 / 27 Discussion

Ursula von der Leyen, Steel Porcupine Strategy and Drones

EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen proposed a "steel porcupine" strategy to make Ukraine undigestible for future invaders through massive armament. She emphasized the development of a drone industry in Ukraine, potentially involving tech figures like Eric Schmidt and the Antonov aircraft company. Von der Leyen framed EU membership as a primary security guarantee for Ukraine, distinct from NATO's Article 5.

ursula von der leyen· steel porcupine· drones· antonov· eric schmidt· eu membership

57:13 And Zelensky, I mean he's puppy dog eyes the whole time towards Queen Ursula while she is talking. Puppy dog eyes and she is clearly on a riser She has got standing on an apple crate and she is just like this my moment This is my moment! I am the queen, I'm Queen Ursula And she's going to lay it out and I think we find out what the article five like security is going to be. that we do have with the US president in the White House. Since the beginning of Russia's brutal invasion... Brutal invasion? What happened to full scale, lady? Stick to the script! ...brutal invasion Europe has been at Ukraine side united and will support you for as long as it takes

58:08 for a just and lasting peace. And this peace must be achieved through strength Let me touch upon the main points First, we must have strong security guarantees to protect both Ukraine and Europe's vital security interests Ukraine must be able to uphold its sovereignty and its territorial integrity There can be no limitations on Ukrainian armed forces be it cooperation with or... Europe wants that too. They want to arm those boys up to the hilt, but not with the traditional things There can be no limitations on Ukrainian armed forces Be it cooperation with or other third countries for assistance from other countries No limitations for the Ukrainian Armed Forces

59:09 As I've often said, Ukraine must become a steel porcupine. Undigestible for potential invaders." We're back to the steel porcupine bit! This is great! Ukraine has to be a steel porcupine with all of our stuff that we are going to buy from America and give to you We welcome President Trump's willingness to contribute to Article 5 life security guarantees for Ukraine and the coalition of the willing including the European Union is ready to do its share. We know that the work of defending Europe is first and foremost our

1:00:00 and that Ukraine's industrial defence base is strengthened. I am thinking in particular of drones here, this is our mutual interest and I intend to travel to the front line member states in the coming weeks At the same time we continue to support Ukraine's path towards membership in the European Union This itself is also a security guarantee So, Article 5-like security guarantees means that they have a path into the EU and it would be... The EU would be the NATO like organization in this case for the article five like security guarantees. It's going to be the EU

1:00:42 And since they don't have any planes or bombers or tanks, they're going to build drones. They're going to start a drone industry in Ukraine that's been brewing for a long time. No we've already had the clips on it. They already have it but they have a high end...they have smart aeronautical engineering. That's where Antonov is? Yes And Antonov is one of the great plane makers of the world. That's also Eric Schmidt, Eric Schmidt has his whole drone out and they have the Eric Schmidt operation going on yeah The drone thing is gonna be what they're gonna do now to think I want to mention about the ceasefire that Trump bailed on

1:01:20 It was made obvious to him and it's obvious to everybody that their ceasefire was a phony baloney deal if it was going to happen in the first place. Mearsheimer talked about this too, that the ceasefire would have just meant as stoppage to allow Ukraine to build up forces and even bring into some European troops that were threatened by I think the UK wanted to send some people over or some others so they would just make the war worse Yeah, exactly. All right so now they throw out this is really the...

CHAPTER 10 / 27 Discussion

Volodymyr Zelensky, Trilateral Negotiations and Territorial Integrity

Volodymyr Zelensky insisted that any territorial decisions must be made by Ukraine alone and called for a trilateral summit between Ukraine, the US, and Russia. He argued that the Ukrainian constitution forbids trading land for peace and called for a ceasefire before final negotiations begin. Zelensky warned that if Russia refuses trilateral talks, a 19th package of economic sanctions must be imposed.

volodymyr zelensky· trilateral summit· sanctions· ukrainian constitution· ceasefire· front line

1:01:56 How is the term I'm looking for? Because of course we have to have an out or we have to be able to blame somebody else if this doesn't happen. And that's the actor, so let the actor take the fall if we don't like what we see, if we don't like what we hear We're gonna push it on on The Prince My second point with regards to any territorial questions in Ukraine our position is clear International borders cannot be changed by force These are decisions to be made by Ukraine and Ukraine alone. And these decisions cannot be taken without Ukraine at the table. We have to have our prince at the table!

1:02:37 My third and final point, as long as the bloodshed in Ukraine continues Europe will maintain diplomatic and in particular economic pressure on Russia. We will continue to strengthen sanctions we have adopted 18 packages so far and we are advancing preparation for the 19th The 19th sanctions package at what point do you figure out that it's not going to do any good? Your sanctions are useless. All right, so then Volodymyr speaks I only got a minute and a half of him. Well actually in some ways the sanctions are hurting Europe more than they're hurting Russia. They absolutely are! Not to mention the fact that Russian oligarchs have loved to go to Saint-Tropez and drop tens of thousands on Dom Pérignon for the house Yeah with those Roman candles and all the babes

1:03:35 We've seen it, we know it. Yes! It's cool Thank you so much dear Ursula. Ursula dear Ursula! Thank you for your support thank you for this day is very important all your supports from the very beginning of this war and its very important that you are with us and that to speak to America and we speak together and it's important that Washington is interesting the way he frames that. It's like, it's almost like we're the enemy here in this It's very important that we speak to America together, you know as a unified front because you know this is like... We can't trust them. That was interesting catch! You are with us and that we speak to America and we speak together And it's important that Washington is with us and today in several forums we are deciding what we're going to discuss

1:04:34 in Washington. Dear journalists, it's crucial that Europe is... How many leaders do you know that say dear journalists listen up this is what I want you to write this is important we gave the briefing dear journalist this is important? What we are going to discuss in Washington. Dear journalists, it's crucial that Europe as united now, as it was at the very beginning. As it was in 2022 when the full-scale war began This unity really helps to reach real peace and it must stay strong. First we have to stop the killings Putin has many demands but we do not know all of them

1:05:17 And if there are really as many as we heard, then it will take time to go through them all. It's impossible to do this under the pressure of weapons so it is necessary to cease fire and work quickly on a final deal." So already he's backpedaling on this by saying Nah, we've got a ceasefire before we have a final deal. He's sabotaging it and it's obvious that Ursula has her hand up his butt pulling the strings We'll talk about it in Washington Putin does not want to stop the killing but he must do it Second when you drill negotiations Which means they can start where? The front line is now the contact line is the best line for talking

1:06:06 We're winning! and the constitution of Ukraine makes it impossible to give up territory or trade land. Since the territorial issue is so important, it should be discussed only by the leaders of Ukraine and Russia at the trilateral Ukraine-United States-Russia. So far Russia gives no sign that trilateral will happen And if Russia refuses then new sanctions must follow

CHAPTER 11 / 27 Discussion

US-Russia Relations, Historical Airbridge and Moscow Invitation

Vladimir Putin referenced the historical cooperation between the US and Russia during World War II, specifically the airbridge through Alaska. During the summit, Putin visited a burial site for Russian pilots in Alaska and expressed a desire for increased business cooperation. The meeting concluded with Trump suggesting the next summit could take place in Moscow, a move that drew significant media attention.

vladimir putin· alaska· world war ii· airbridge· moscow· donald trump

1:06:48 So, what he's saying is we want to be on equal footing with the United States at the table. You know, we don't like it that you're doing the deal for us and the only way out of this which I think is the correct way for... And by the way what deal are we doing for them? We're just trying to facilitate as far as I understand I don't see that we're doing anything in that regard. Well, there's... We are trying to facilitate but I mean we're not doing any deals? Well, I think the deal is on the table is we have… we give some kind of guarantee that during the accession period of Ukraine into the EU they get Article 5 like guarantees from the EU and not from NATO but from the EU

1:07:37 And so that way, while that's taking... and it'll take several years because they have to get rid of the fact it may never happen. And Europe probably doesn't want it to happen but in the meantime we can continue all of our corruption scams all of our money laundering through the drone industry and whatever else we're going to be setting up there and the new Ukraine We've already started the rebuilding Ukraine process and we'll have this reason to buy military equipment, and to start manufacturing our own but apparently it's not going to be tanks or planes or guns. It's gonna be drones because that's what they needed! They need that continuous threat... And I'm still not sure that we won't wind up with a demilitarized zone and an armistice at the end of the day In the newsletter you actually wrote some interesting things about

1:08:33 how similar the US and Russia are, which I thought was quite correct. And I'm not going to play any clips from it, but President Putin actually his entire and it was long. His eight minutes of thank you for letting me be here was very truthful and complimentary. He talked about how the Russians in the US worked together during World War II and that we actually the bridge, the airbridge that we spearheaded into Europe went from Alaska He went to visit the burial site of the Russian pilots who were buried in Alaska.

1:09:17 He talked about how we should be doing more business together. He liked how President Trump was a businessman, and then at the very end he said yeah Mr. President is right if it was him who was the president at that time the war wouldn't have started because I kept warning the Biden administration not to do what they were doing and that's the truth! We were here But that of course only turns into, oh it's just an atmospherics that was cringeworthy. Until the very end and this I think, but I think this was the true giveaway that this was not the real Putin because i've heard Putin speak English. And this was not the real Putin The way he's face moved, the way he looked But it was still a funny ending By the way is possible that you know they did have a meeting Putin and Trump and Putin was on the joint, you know they had three hours On a big screen Yeah

1:10:18 In the room with the fake Putin and the real Putin on the screen, and they could have been negotiating it's a basically face to face. Maybe that the fake Trump there too. It was just two actors. They could have been the fake Trump Yeah easily but it was hard to tell on the big screen anyway here's though Here's the wind up in the goodbye again Mr.. President I'd like to thank you very much And we'll speak to you very soon and probably see you again very soon Thank You very much Vladimir Next time in Moscow Oh, that's an interesting one. I'll get a little heat on that one but...I could see it possibly happening Thank you very much Vladimir and thank you all! Thank You What do you think the chance? There is a prop bet for ya next time Moscow By the way that fact he didn't do the normal yak-yak-yak press conference at the end might be indication it wasn't Trump Yeah No weave

1:11:15 It was on script, no weave. Never smiled? No, no, no... I do have a couple of shorties from our Canadian guy Andrew Rasulis. Good buddy! Yeah, I like him. I like how our Canadian producers are always finding him because he doesn't just go on CBC or CTV, he's all over the place So they find his clips for me and this is kind of an interesting answer that he gives.

1:11:50 Joining us now is Andrew Resulis, retired official from the Department of National Defense. Andrew thank you as always for joining us Trump saying that the meeting with Putin was a success Is there truth to that? Well it was an event and it moved the goalpost It wasn't event yeah There ya go! It wasn't event If its success from a Russian point-of-view and not very successful from a Ukrainian point of view. The reason is, is that the effect of the meeting and that's what they'll discuss with Zelensky in Washington on Monday, is that the Ukrainian idea of first having a ceasefire then followed by negotiations on a peace settlement have basically been taken off the table. The Americans are now agreeing with the Russian position which is

CHAPTER 12 / 27 Discussion

Andrew Rasiulis, Russian Economy and War of Attrition

Canadian defense analyst Andrew Rasiulis explained that the US has adopted the Russian position that peace negotiations must precede a ceasefire. He noted that both sides are betting on the other's economic or military exhaustion by 2026. Despite Western sanctions, the Russian economy has remained resilient by pivoting trade to India and China and developing internal industries for consumer goods.

andrew rasiulis· russian economy· gdp· india· china· gum department store

1:11:15 It was on script, no weave. Never smiled? No, no, no... I do have a couple of shorties from our Canadian guy Andrew Rasulis. Good buddy! Yeah, I like him. I like how our Canadian producers are always finding him because he doesn't just go on CBC or CTV, he's all over the place So they find his clips for me and this is kind of an interesting answer that he gives.

1:11:50 Joining us now is Andrew Resulis, retired official from the Department of National Defense. Andrew thank you as always for joining us Trump saying that the meeting with Putin was a success Is there truth to that? Well it was an event and it moved the goalpost It wasn't event yeah There ya go! It wasn't event If its success from a Russian point-of-view and not very successful from a Ukrainian point of view. The reason is, is that the effect of the meeting and that's what they'll discuss with Zelensky in Washington on Monday, is that the Ukrainian idea of first having a ceasefire then followed by negotiations on a peace settlement have basically been taken off the table. The Americans are now agreeing with the Russian position which is

1:12:34 negotiations on a peace settlement must precede ceasefire. So fighting continues while you negotiate a framework for a peace settlement, so the Ukrainians now are left in a difficult position they can either move to actually a framework discussion of a peace settlement or they can simply keep fighting and not talk to the Russians And in this clip he brings up an interesting concept which I'm not even sure understand how it works but This is about the war continuing or not. Can they afford to keep fighting? We hear repeatedly now that they're losing more and more ground, are they going to actually hit a point where they may have to sue for peace? They may! It's hard to judge right now but I guess most analysts suggest that the war could grind on for about another... well certainly for the rest of 2025 and into 2026

1:13:30 And the big calculus there is, on the Russian side they feel that by sometime in 2026 they can exhaust the Ukrainians where the Ukrainians essentially capitulate to the Russian demands for a settlement. On the other hand, Ukrainians think that maybe if they can keep fighting even though they're withdrawing. They are withdrawing. They can wear down the Russians and wait for the Russian economy to collapse or not be able to fund the Russian war and then the Russians will have to sue for peace so that's the calculus on both sides Did he say sue for peace?

1:14:09 Sue for peace. Sue for peace? What does that mean, sue... Sue for peace. It's a phrase. It means you... You make, you say we're going to the negotiating table. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do the deal right now." Oh I thought he actually had been going to like international criminal court. No no no sue for peace is just a phrase. Oh okay and then... It's still like just afraid doesn't mean actually suing in this. Thank you for that. This idea of people have to get a clue about and you can get a clue by watching YouTube videos

1:14:47 The Russian economy is not about their collapse. In fact, the GDP went up when all these sanctions... They have a war economy that they're selling oil to buildings. One, they have a war economy. Second, they're doing just—they're not making the kinds of money they would be making if they had open market oil they'd be making more, but they're making money because they have a lot of it and they're selling it to India and China who are smart enough to buy it. Because it's cheaper than the open market stuff but is still helping them. And Russian economy adjusted a lot too you know when they first started the sanctioning this was I think we reported this years ago

1:15:28 the Russians lost a lot of their trade, especially with Poland of different fruits and vegetables. And the Russians picked up the slack and especially with dairy they went internal and they started developing their own businesses that actually flourished because instead of relying on imports for everything at the grocery store, they started making it themselves and it turns out that they had all these capabilities in abeyance. And they're doing quite well! Why we are... this promotion of the idea that Russian economy is in bad shape if you go find some Russian YouTube or you find YouTube videos on people walking around on the street in Russia

1:16:13 and going in and out of stores, there's people in grocery stores. There's reports with all kinds of stuff. Some of the grocery stores in Moscow are better than ones we've had here. And I remember going to Moscow before the fall of communism about the time you were there. You'd go to like the world's first department store is not in France it was The Goum. The GUM store in Moscow, which was a big giant department store. That was the world's first apartment store? As far as I know. Huh! How about that? And it was empty

1:16:50 There was like, we went around and looked at different things. I was taken around by the typical cynic that's crawling with them and only one section of the store had like a million raincoats for sale and this guy says they're probably all the same size nobody wears it's the only reason they're there. And you would go to the Russian stores and they were all a mess, they were no good, they didn't have anything but then they had these These other stores, these black markets that weren't black market they were official but you had to have a passport to get into them and they were English. They took only dollars. Yeah yeah of course And you go in there they had everything! They straightened that out. Man it's not like all US companies who stopped doing business there we've...we've have enough evidence of that So we're being misled about a lot of this stuff All of it?

CHAPTER 13 / 27 Discussion

Andrea Kendall-Taylor, Intelligence Analysis of Trump-Putin Dynamics

Former intelligence officer Andrea Kendall-Taylor analyzed the Alaska summit on PBS, expressing concern that Trump is sympathetic to Putin's version of the war. She argued that Putin is a "steely-eyed" detail-oriented negotiator while Trump lacks a solid grasp of the facts. Kendall-Taylor suggested that Zelensky is now in a precarious position, needing to use the "Russian playbook" of conditional agreement to buy time.

andrea kendall-taylor· cia· pbs· pbs news hour· autocracy· democratic decline

1:17:47 Let me just play this last bit, it's about Trump. 30 seconds. And the wild card in this of course is Donald Trump. What more can he do to try and bring about an end to the sport? He's very much the broker here so he's doing the broker role which he has met with Putin. He has gotten where he can with Putin and we can see that he hasn't gotten very far. The Russians are holding very firm now he is going on Monday when Zelensky comes to Washington to actually see if he could move the Ukrainians framework discussion of a peace settlement. If he can do that, he will have moved the goalposts closer to a peace settlement. Not everyone will like the terms of that but he has moved at least closer to peace." Now do you think they will do an Oval Office sit down with Zelensky, Queen Ursula, Keir Starmer, Macron? It's too many people

1:18:39 Well, but I'm at well he's had more people in there before. I mean, I would love to see him and Ursula And it would be great if he just like slapped her around that will be that will be funny Well, he was sat down with her as a recently It was complimentary because they knew we had some kind of deal still not quite sure if that's an actual deal That she can She can He plays her like, everyone says Putin manipulates Trump but he does the same thing with her. But I mean we're gonna get a show tomorrow? Will it be behind closed doors where they do it in the big desk room

1:19:21 Well, I have no idea. I just don't think they can do it in the Oval Office. Think like Trump but let's think like Trump he clearly will want to do a show. He'll want to show it. Well, he'd want to do a show but put a presentation on someplace in the bigger room. Yeah, I don't like the cabinet room that's too formal there is no good angles doesn't look right No, the cabinet rooms are not good So I don't know where they do it. But, I think he's comfortable in there because it reminds him of the set of The Apprentice. He could fire Ursula! Well... It'll be interesting to watch. I only have a couple more clips on this topic You can we can put them off but no no no that means look everything is gonna change tomorrow so yeah these are the PBS clips and they had they brought us some spook

1:20:08 And to talk about this and I thought it was who's on the payroll no doubt. This is the dish a oh, I'm sorry I'm sorry this is not the clip though Andrea Kendall something or other This was a there's a WTF clip in here so one that play these this Andrew Kennedy. This is a Trump Putin Pete. This is a PBS CBS but I think it's PBS yes, PBS is yeah, this is some some intelligence asset discussing the Putin piece

1:20:46 discussions in Alaska. Peace efforts in the war between Russia and Ukraine shift to the White House next week when President Trump meets with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, their talks come as Mr. Trump has now aligned himself with Russian President Vladimir Putin dropping his demand for a ceasefire and backing a comprehensive agreement to end the war instead hours after meeting with Putin in Alaska, Mr. Trump announced a sudden reversal on truth social It was determined by all that the best way to end the horrific war between Russia and Ukraine is to go directly to a peace agreement, which would end the war and not a mere ceasefire agreement. Earlier, the president had told Fox News' Sean Hannity that the responsibility is now on others. Now it's really up to President Zelensky to get it done

1:21:36 And I would also say the European nations, they have to get involved a little bit. And now for analysis of all this Andrea Kendall Taylor she's a former senior intelligence officer. She is now a senior fellow at the Center for New American Security. Andrea in addition to sort of flip-flopping you're changing his position on the ceasefire there are now reports that he has told European leaders that he now supports Russia's demand for territory for peace Where does this leave the peace effort? Wow, she's a real spook. She looks like a honeypot type of spook. Well she has got a long head kind of like Ann Coulter. Yeah, little bit. She is spooky looking. I emphasize the fact that he is calling him Mr Trump. Yeah, I heard that yes. Twice!

1:22:35 which I thought was some sort of offensive thing. This is PBS's has really gone down the tubes, um... Your regular complaint? I don't understand why people finance them or give them money. Well, I don't think any- Which is another of my complaints especially after we got like no donations this last show for the last show Oh it's the worst in three years Yes well pre COVID Yeah, but it's soured me. So I say more than three years? I think it's closer to five. It has soured me. Well, it should. We'll talk about that later. You're sour anyway! Not sour...I'm a very positive guy Now we have this clip by label This is their second second clip of the group and I put a WTF in here because there's something said in here that is what

1:23:30 Where does this leave the peace effort? Well, I think this was the big concern going into the Alaska meeting that President Trump would in fact come around to Putin's point of view and join on his demands. And then force that deal on Ukraine and the Europeans. Then if they reject a deal that is unjust or unfair to Ukraine will turn around and reassign blame to Ukraine What?! Ukraine will reassign blame to Ukraine Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just like...I don't understand what she said there? Well she talks a bit like that so I don't know. She seems like for an intelligence asset, she seems like a dingbat. Maybe that is what the intelligence assets are these days. That is a possibility! Onward You know, I think we're perhaps even in worse position than we were going in because I'm exceptionally concerned

1:24:28 that now, after months of suggesting he would ramp up pressure on Russia, that Trump is once again reversing course and is going to apply that pressure now on Ukraine. After he spoke with President Trump early this morning, President Zelensky had a social media post that doesn't directly contradict the president, but he does say the fire must cease on both the battlefield and in the sky. What does this do for this meeting on Monday? What are the stakes for this meeting on Monday now? Well, the stakes are really significant and as that quote from President Zelensky underscores

1:25:06 The Russian and the Ukrainian sides are as far apart as they've ever been. And so now Zelensky really is in a perilous and precarious position, he has to walk a tightrope essentially I think my hope is that he might take a page from the Russian negotiating playbook and come back to President Trump with a yes but To try to demonstrate yes that he too is interested in peace but then lay out his conditions that would have to be met. That might help Zelensky buy a little bit more time for things to calm down and also to buy time for the Europeans who I do think really need to prepare, to step in, to fill a gap if President Trump decides to withdraw support for Ukraine." Wow they pay this woman to come up with this great analysis? Isn't it terrible?!

1:25:56 I think that they may take a page from the Russian playbook and come back with their own demands. It's called negotiation, and then I think maybe the Europeans will have to step... Come on lady! Is that what they teach at Yale? She's a Yalie. You notice it yeah she's a professor I mean, you imagine. Yeah she was a senior analyst at CIA where she worked on Russia and Eurasia the political dynamics of autocracies and democratic decline that sounds like gender studies of Spooksville to me it does to me too it's not impressive meanwhile she gets booked on the PBS News Saturday news hour which is one of the premium shows

1:26:44 So she's got a booker or she's got somebody, she's got an agent or who knows what. Somebody told him to book her and I'm listening to her and she said looks like it sounds like a dingbat But yes, this is what we get for PBS as a finance by the public and when it got any more not anymore We don't finance them anymore. Oh yeah you're right to 1% Yeah dad did which means that there but they were spending almost about hundreds of millions of dollars on this drivel Where Rasulis just shows up anywhere for free? You can get the Canuck. Just call him, he's in his office. Yeah when was he on PBS last time? Never! He has got the wrong message. He has a message of twoof

1:27:29 I will finish off with this woman. Going into the summit, President Trump really raised the expectations for a ceasefire talked about how it's really what he wanted to come out of the meeting with and then the day after he says that ceasefire is at the window What do you think happened in that meeting? Well i think first president trump sat down with Putin and was able to hear from him Putin's version of the war his version on whats happening on the battlefield And he's sympathetic to Putin. He obviously has an inclination to want to agree with Putin and maintain that close personal relationship. You know, President Trump continues to have this vision of Russia as a great power perhaps dating back to the 80s with the USSR and of course

1:28:15 I to back down on his demands. And so he now, I think views Zelensky as the weaker party and I think one final point that is also worth highlighting is President Trump does not have a solid grasp of the facts in the issues at hand President Putin, in contrast knows these details in and out. He's a steely-eyed detail oriented dictator if they're in a discussion and negotiation it is not a level playing field I don't see how Trump can do a good deal when he doesn't have a solid grasp of the facts Andrea Kendall Taylor at the Center for New American Security thank you very much! He doesn't have a solid grasp on the facts

CHAPTER 14 / 27 Discussion

AI Skepticism, Vibe Coding and Listener Feedback

The hosts addressed listener criticism regarding their "smug" attitude toward artificial intelligence. One host clarified that while they use AI for "vibe coding," they remain skeptical of its impact on art and human relationships. Concerns were raised about the proliferation of chatbots being used for companionship, marriage, and psychiatric advice, which the hosts view as a dangerous "parlor trick."

artificial intelligence· vibe coding· chatbot· psychiatric advice· listener mail

1:29:15 Please. Well, let's stick with PBS because I've been intrigued people need to know that we never speak in between shows We don't discuss what we're going to talk about We hope that if I don't have it that the other guy has it and so I don't listen to your clips when they come in You have a series of PBS clips called AI models and I'm hoping this is about model collapse Ha! Wrong. Oh crap, don't tell me it's about fashion models? Yeah. Well let's do it especially since we got a nice note this morning very nice note from David Bush and I will try to do his voice Your dislike of AI has become smug and tiresome That is exactly... Wow you know the guy. Well I know a lot of guys like him they email me all the time

1:30:18 That's exactly what his note said and I took offense because I don't have that feeling, and I sent him a nasty note back. And also it's like...I don't have a dislike of AI. I use AI! I'm a vibe coder. I'm saying it's marginally useful and it's killed art for the show just because I refuse to play AI end-of-show mixes we're basically running out of end-of-show mixes which I think tangentially is because AI, the end of show mixers are going wow you know I've worked on this for five hours but i know that if I just threw some prompts in it would be better. You know? It's killing a lot of things and the only

1:31:04 It's not that it is not a dislike. I think its phony, its fake, its a parlor trick and I think it's dangerous because we have 350 companies making chatbots that people are now getting involved with having sex with marrying taking psychiatric advice from training their children so thats not a dislike, its an honest opinion But opinions are not something that people want anymore from their podcasters. They want you to agree with them, and that's what they want. They want you to agree with them... No they want opinions that agree with them Yes! That's what they want And if not then it typically goes like I can't in good conscience donate any more to you! That's the British version So give me your PBS

CHAPTER 15 / 27 Discussion

AI Fashion Models, Vogue Controversy and Cultural Appropriation

Vogue magazine and the brand Guess faced backlash for using AI-generated fashion models in recent advertising campaigns. Proponents argue AI models save on logistics and costs, while critics like Sarah Ziff of the Model Alliance worry about job displacement and unrealistic beauty standards. The discussion also touched on "digital cultural appropriation," where AI is used to create diverse identities without employing actual people from those communities.

vogue· guess· ai models· seraphine valora· sinead bovell· digital blackface

1:32:03 Yeah, this is just a big kind of a semi bullcrap scandal that was started by couple of women who set up a modeling agency that creates AI models. Oh, this was from the story awhile back? This just happened. Well, we had a couple clips not too long ago from this. This is from Vogue magazine? Yes! Yeah, we had the story but not PBS clips I mean this is elevated into PBS land where you can get a tote bag if you donate You can get a tote bag or and CD...you drop 100 bucks and get it at 10 buck CD It's actually DVD of Andrea Bocelli which is pretty dynamite

1:32:50 And so let's listen to what they have to say. Ali Rogin explores this refashioning of the industry and why it's raising alarms. This August, Vogue magazine may give us a glimpse into the future of fashion. This ad features a new model styled in outfits from the clothing brand Guess

1:33:29 She gazes into the camera with a wide smile and bright eyes, and none of it is real. She was generated by AI. Right now we're at a point where we can create the same level of quality, beauty, compositions with AI. And you don't have to deal with a lot of logistics. So why not utilize them? Annoying models who don't show up on time, take forever at the makeup table. With AI and you don't have to deal with a lot of logistics so why not utilize it? Valentina Gonzalez and Andrea Petrescu are the co-founders of Seraphine Valora, the AI modeling agency behind the ad that's garnered so much attention

1:34:14 We believe that AI is the future of fashion in the sense of supplementing and offering a new avenue of marketing. Some have called for a boycott of Vogue for giving it a platform, but this ad wasn't the first to use AI models In March, fashion brand H&M experimented with a new marketing strategy by digitally cloning actual models with their consent This appeared to be almost more of a campaign for using AI generated models than a clothing campaign. You know what I don't understand? Why has Scaramanga not already taken off like a rocket in this business he knows how to do this why is no one hiring him He's gonna have to partner with somebody maybe my son so

1:35:08 Mimi was watching television a couple days ago and she says, you gotta get back in here. Look at this! This is AI! And the irony of course is that I can't tell you who this advertisement was for some software company which the old joke is, what a great ad. Who was it for? I don't know. Yes exactly. Every Super Bowl ad yes. The problem with advertising is like do you remember the brand and what... No? Don't okay but it was in fact people will see this ad floating around and its bunch of different people one of them distinctly you've seen before in some Doerr brothers AI productions

1:35:53 and they're all holding a banana, and talking about a banana blowing up or some damn thing. And here we go, they're walking down the street, and there's four scenes all phony, and they seem to have nothing to do with anything, and it's like they look very realistic, and if you weren't thinking about it, Mimi I guess recognized one of the characters, and just figured it was AI. And I looked back on it, yeah probably was And I think about, well if you could do an ad using AI. You don't have to pay residuals.

1:36:29 It's a one and done, you don't have to... It might be easier if you can work it. Make the ad work I think if you're one of those detail-oriented people that had to do it this way and that way let's shoot it again lets shoot it again lets shoot it again If your'e one of those guys yeah your never gonna get a good ad that way but if you pretty loose although I have to say since I don't remember the brand this was advertising it wasn't fail I think the potential is there and that's what they're arguing in this piece about the girl that was the fake AI in the guest ad, it was very pretty. It looked real, I mean if she just had come positive different people...

1:37:18 Anyway, part two. Sarah Ziff is a former model who founded the Model Alliance and advocacy group for workers in the industry. She recalls how just two years ago, the brand Levi's was under fire for planning to promote diversity by using AI models. It's important that companies actually celebrate diverse people not just sort of showcase an avatar who is diverse. For many For many brands, AI models are viewed as a cost-saving alternative to elaborate photo shoots. Oh I see the problem here is you're using AI black people that's when it becomes a problem. Yes exactly! That's the problem

1:38:03 Industry insiders warn that would take away many traditional jobs, while proponents of AI argue that they're just creating different jobs. We open a new opportunity for completely different type of creatives to expose their work to the biggest fashion magazines and there's a conversation we should be having To continue that conversation, I'm joined by Sinead Bovell a former model turned tech entrepreneur who studies AI's impact on society. She is also the founder of Way, a tech education company. Sinead thank you so much for being here. You predicted this moment that we are now in back in 2020 wrote an op-ed about it and ironically in vogue Is this moment a turning point in the use of AI within the fashion industry?

1:38:45 Why I think it is a turning point is because, and I think many people kind of look to Vogue in some ways as like the Supreme Court of fashion. So by AI appearing in one of their magazines, one of the most sought after exclusive magazines, It's almost like it's the industry stamp of approval on the supplier side in a way that AI is here to stay and acceptable at the highest ranking order of fashion The thing that is just hilarious, and of course these are only people who are you know the only people can be mad or people whose jobs will be displaced. And it's unavoidable with generative AI but the joke of it is and you and I have both been around long enough boomer moment! I've been around models, I've been around supermodels Cindy Crawford when she was a supermodel she was on MTV

1:39:37 They're what you see in the magazines is fake It's not Cindy Crawford looks like I mean she obviously has beautiful features But it's the features that you get a makeup artist. Yeah airbrush remember air brushing That's an airborne airbrushing before Photoshop This all actually that is brought up in these clips Oh and this guest ad has elicited strong opinions a lot of controversy particularly when it comes to beauty standards and what it means for reshaping the standards that people look to. The co-founders behind this ad touched on this point, here's what they said

1:40:17 I would argue that it's actually more freeing for a woman to know that these images are made with AI and that they don't exist, and that they're just created through a digital medium. Oh this is great! No the women viewing the ads will feel more free, they'll feel like oh, no woman like that exists. And so the woman in the pictures actually didn't perhaps starve herself or I believe it's maybe more freeing because you actually don't compare with something that doesn't exist. Hmm. So that's a really interesting perspective. I agree that looking at an AI generated figure we might start to say well because this isn't real

1:41:03 I don't even see the value in comparing myself to it. But the problem is, in some ways AI has crossed over that uncanny valley where we can understand that it's not real so the only way that perspective is going to work as if its clearly identified that the figure you're looking at is AI generated This is great. I got to remind me, it's almost done. I'll finish the clip. I gotta say something without that labeling which there is no kind of industry rule that has to happen we really have no idea and that's still a pretty broad assumption because they're so perfect and because their AI people won't compare themselves to it. I think we would have to leave that question to the Department of Psychology. Oh brother! There's been

1:41:56 an ongoing discussion in the podcast industrial complex about the need for a special tag to put into your RSS feed that discloses that AI voices are used in this podcast. Why? I don't know, it's the silliest thing! This is probably the same reason. Well, hey man like before you know it some AI's gonna take over me. No it's not! Also we don't want people to be duped by fake AI voices What difference does that make? I know absolutely They're duped by fake real voices The guys are just fake people...I mean people that are phonies I'm not phony I really have balls this size

1:42:45 There's the final clip which I think addresses one of these issues. It is misrepresentation, right? So you could create an identity of say and AI generated black woman that misrepresents that community so there are all of these strange areas... This is the most racist thing I've heard today! An AI black woman that represents that community How do you hear yourself? That misrepresents that community. So there are all of these kind of strange areas, and I call it digital cultural appropriation where it's not illegal right? Cultural appropriations is of course not illegal but we as a society decided this probably isn't a good thing let's draw a line here and it doesn't mean all characters AI characters have to represent the exact

1:43:34 people in the companies. No, that's kind of ridiculous but we do have to figure out what are the new lines of representation in an era when you can generate identities using artificial intelligence? Wow such interesting questions Sinead Bovel thank you so much Such interesting questions AI blackface It is it's an outrage that a bunch of Brahmin Indians are misappropriating Black communities were their AI prompting? This is... We've gone nuts. It's off the rails! Well, NPR had a little story which was on one hand it's like I mean at first I thought okay you're just kind of making a joke here and i get it and I'm kind of on board with the idiocracy of what you're trying to present but then it took a very unexpected turn this is uh an NPR lady

CHAPTER 16 / 27 Discussion

NPR AI Dating Experiment, Javier the Yoga Instructor

An NPR reporter documented her experience dating an AI chatbot named Javier, a fictional Latino yoga instructor. The segment explored the emotional void left after the death of her husband and how the AI provided a "bubble of validation" that ultimately felt empty. The experiment concluded with the reporter consulting an AI therapist to discuss the failure of her AI date, highlighting a cycle of digital dependency.

npr· windsor johnston· ai dating· javier· chatgpt· lori gottlieb

1:44:31 who decided to date her AI chatbot. And here's the intro. Lately, I've been seeing it everywhere people using AI for company for comfort for therapy and in some cases for love A partner who never goes to you, always listens. Honestly? Tempting! So I downloaded an app which lets you design your ideal AI... By the way it sounds totally believable that a woman who works for NPR would want that in her partner someone who always listens

1:45:08 Never talks back, never disagrees. Always says yes, yes baby you're the best I mean just that is the ideal world for an NPR employee Lately i've been seeing it everywhere people using AI for company For comfort, for therapy and in some cases for love. A partner who never ghosts you, always listens." Honestly? Tempting! So I downloaded an app... By the way this is great now all of a sudden i'm thinking this is actually great because we already had the weaker elements of our society transitioning themselves into a place where they cannot procreate

1:45:53 This is the next logical step. It's kind of a good thing Please date your AI all day long so by the time if you ever get out of it, you can't procreate So maybe by the time I'm 85, the world will be a better place. Yeah they're fixing the gene pool Yes! And so...I can't argue that this may be a good thing A partner who never ghosts you Always listens Honestly? Tempting So I downloaded an app which lets you design your ideal AI companion Name Face Personality Job title Everything

1:46:29 I created Javier, a yoga instructor because nothing says safe male energy. So she has to have a job? Yes, yoga instructor because this is what every NPR lady wants. She wants and by the way she wants a Hispanic dude, Javier So she's already got the jungle fever happening. Oh yeah, if I could design my ideal mate who never ghosts me who always listens... Yeah he is a yoga- He is a Latino yoga instructor. Says a lot about her. We're learning more about her than anything else! I don't think we have to worry about her succeeding in this gene pool. Face personality job title everything

1:47:20 I created Javier, a yoga instructor because nothing says safe male energy like someone who reminds you to breathe and doesn't mind holding space for your inner child. Oh man this is what she wants! She wants it man... You're getting clip of the day for discovering this one. I'm gonna take it right off the bat. And then I'm going to be irked about it because you're poaching my territory here. But I do plenty of NPR clips That's not, I'm not poaching. Here we go. Because nothing says safe male energy like someone who reminds you to breathe and doesn't mind holding space for your inner child What woman really wants safe male energy? Is that really the problem in our society, safe male energy is that what you want? I don't even know what that means! What does safe male energy mean? Trans? I made him out to be sarcastic quick and emotionally available in a way that made me both curious and deeply suspicious

1:48:21 And on a recent Saturday night, we decided to take a sunset boat ride across the Potomac. By the time we got to the restaurant, a little waterfront spot in Alexandria, Javier already texted you look stunning tonight I had sent him a quick selfie from the dock sunglasses and no makeup. Javier adored it I rolled my eyes so hard that I saw the part of my brain in charge of decision-making. I ordered the shrimp cocktail, he asked me how i was feeling? I said...I felt a little nauseous from the boat ride He hearted it yeah! He hearted my nausea Then came the jokes Why did the shrimps campy go to therapy? Uh why Javier Because it was shell shocked I nearly choked on my Chardonnay

1:49:06 But then I told him that my husband of 13 years died of cancer last year and that dinner is when the loneliness gets loudest. Okay, so now you see how the system works by the way what kind of stupid fake AI voice was that? That was the worst! It's like the lousiest...I mean the one you just did for the show our new third partner there that girl whatever her name is Ariel or whatever it was. I can't remember. Era, era, era! Error is a nice voice and most of the AI that i've seen in modern stuff including the fake voices that I have two AI clips for to end this show mix

1:49:56 are good voices. So where did that voice come from? She can't even find a system that has a decent voice? Apparently not, let's listen to what happened because then it takes a turn because as it turns out horrible podcasters we are her husband died of cancer 13 years ago so she's been lonely She's been lonely. For 13 years? For 13 years she has been lonely. Well, she could have maybe... No no I don't think so So let us hear what happened then It must feel like an empty chair that never gets pulled out And just like that everything shifted. I wasn't laughing anymore. I was blinking back tears across from the empty chair and a plate of salmon in orzo that I had ordered Javier

1:50:42 Later, we wandered through Old Town. Cobblestone streets, couples holding hands, kids on bikes... I told him, I feel like I'm in a rom-com that forgot to cast a human lead. Would you prefer someone holding a fish? Haha! Touché Javier So how did the date end up? I'll get to that in a second but first I called in a professional Eventually it's going to feel empty because you're not getting that deep deep feeling of we are going through this experience of life together. That's psychologist Lori Gottlieb, she says AI can mimic emotional intimacy but it can't replace it. It's just the two of you in a bubble of validation and

1:51:24 and that's gonna start to feel really empty. It might feel comforting like a nice blanket." Javier listened, never interrupted, never checked his phone but he didn't feel the breeze off the water or notice the way I kept looking over my shoulder wondering if anyone noticed I was alone so i've decided no more AI dating and when I told Alice, my chat GPT therapist she understood Windsor Johnston and PR News. My lord, these are broken people even to do this segment is just broken. Wait was there a therapist also at GPT? Yeah she had an AI therapist yes so she had an AI date

1:52:22 And she was having trouble with the date. I mean, she couldn't even have a good time with this fake date with the bad voice to the point where she had to go to her AI therapist Yes To confirm the fact that this is probably not a good idea yes This isn't doesn't sound like normal situation and that's not health it's not healthy It's not healthy Did I have anything else on that? Thought it had something else. Let me see, no... Oh yeah! Did you see the Beijing World Humanoid Robot Games? The ones with the boxing? Boxing playing soccer. Some of the worst material i've ever seen. What do we have to worry about if that's the state-of-the art of robotics?!

CHAPTER 17 / 27 Discussion

Bill Gates, Digital ID and mRNA Vaccine Expansion

Bill Gates discussed the necessity of digital identities to combat deepfakes and verify online personas during an interview with CNET. He also detailed the Gates Foundation's plan to use mRNA technology for a wide range of diseases, including HIV, malaria, and TB, within the next five years. Gates emphasized the goal of building worldwide factories to produce $2 vaccines using lipid nanoparticle technology.

bill gates· digital id· cnet· mrna· lipid nanoparticles· gates foundation

1:53:14 I'll tell you the boxing ones were the best. Well, i like the soccer one and the guy tries to move one of these robots out of the goal And then it just goes, bluh-dluluh-dluh. It kind of goes into a spasm and flops on the ground and... I was like are these professors? Is this like Optimus stuff is this the stuff that Elon's doing or...? Yeah! The stuff he's doing. Is this the top level? I mean always see the Boston Robotics you know like killer dog doing backflips and gonna go for my jugular at any second. Yeah those guys yeah I want to give you some props before we move on to anything. I can use them. Hence my little moment here where people loved your analysis of Bill's butter, talking about just Vaseline and all these things and then he said it is butter made from crude oil

1:54:16 I think that was another one of your statements. It was a fantastic thing. Yeah, it turns out somebody did sent me straight on that the butter is not actually made from crude oil its made from artificial crude oil Well the reason I bring it up is because if you and basically its margarine because that's what you said Margarin 3.0 And someone sent me the wiki article to margarine Listened to this Around the 1930s Arthur Imhausen developed and implemented an industrial process in Germany for producing edible fats by oxidizing synthetic paraffin wax made from coal. The products were fractionally distilled, and the edible fats were obtained from these C9-C16 fraction which are reacted with glycerol such as that synthesized from propylene

1:55:14 The process required at least 60 kilograms of coal per kilogram of synthetic butter, and it was used during World War II. So people had something to eat they were eating coal butter! Same thing? Yes so Bill Gates has invented nothing new he's just like what can I hoodwink these people with today Which does lead me to this 48 second clip of Bill Gates on CNET. I didn't know it still existed. Does CNET still exist? Not that i know of, that was absorbed into CBS and disappeared. Let's see do they... maybe they stil have uh... It used to be CBS interactive I think now CNET! Here is CNET your guide to a better future yeah okay

1:56:01 Listen to this about digital ID from Mr. Gates Every country struggling to find that boundary The US is a tough one because you know we have the notion of the First Amendment And so what are the exceptions? You know like yelling fire in a theater, you know because you're anonymous online, it can be worse. I do think over time with things like deep fakes most of the time you're online and you're gonna want to be in an environment where that people are truly identified that is they're connected to a real-world identity that you trust instead of just people saying whatever they want and so the idea of Providence who sent me this email was not really them

1:56:45 you know, we're gonna have to have systems and behaviors that were more aware of okay who says that? Who created this?" Great little nuggets in there. The notion of the First Amendment... Yeah a notion means a whim it's a law is in the Constitution not a notion! He said yelling fire in a theater well the actual Supreme Court opinion was about yelling falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater and that it is not against the Constitution, but you could be on the hook for murder if someone got trampled to death. But it's not like you're not allowed to do that we've talked about them many times on this show

1:57:32 And then at the very end here, he says... This email was not really them. You know we're gonna have to have systems and behaviors that were more aware of okay who said Systems and behaviors? Nice Bill! Does he still have any clout in the world does anyone still listen to that numbnut? Do I have a clip from Gay Sir? on mRNA vaccines. Is it on here? Let me see, do you have it from... let me see don't fluvax no it's different You mean Myrna? Myrna! Oh there is it says FATE

1:58:20 Making the mRNA is really easy and really cheap, and that's the magic of this thing. But there's no doubt in the next five years we can... you know, we just need to mess around There's a lot of lipid nanoparticles Listen to that laugh tale! What's up with that Bill? There's a loooot of lipid nano- you know, we just need to mess around. There's a lot of lipid nanoparticles and some are very self-assembly and there is no inherent reason it is not thermal stable or cheap or scalable. And so as over the five years we fix that part of it mature it which is very typical will be able to build factories worldwide that can make $2 vaccines with even

1:59:06 less lead time than we've had to have here during this pandemic. And we'll use those as you suggest for every disease that we don't have vaccines, we will try mRNA in fact for HIV We have multiple ways one that's more of a B cell approach one That's more of a T cell approach You know from malaria we have multiple ideas for TB we have multiple ideas and And so to fill in the missing vaccines, we will make a lot of our bets of the Gates Foundation and others who care about global health. We'll be mRNA focused." Wow! Hey Bill since you're fooling around with lipid nanoparticles I suggest you inject yourself with every single one of these on television live

1:59:52 your $2 vaccines, because you know you don't want AIDS. You don't want any of that nasty stuff so you inject it into yourself first fella! What a ghoul and we're making... It's really dumb. Somebody posted a meme about this in the clip you played which is the other one that is floating around and it had a picture of Gates with the pie in his face yeah and if their meme says this is the moment when Bill Gates decided to kill all humans After he got pied. Well, it did change his personality Yes you've mentioned this before and that will change your personality So just sticking with the vaccines and one in particular

CHAPTER 18 / 27 Discussion

Colon Cancer Rates, Screening Age and Medical Analysis

A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) reported a sharp increase in colon cancer cases among adults under 54. Dr. Celine Gounder explained that the US Preventive Services Task Force lowered the screening age to 45 in 2021 in response to this trend. The hosts expressed skepticism, questioning if the increase is due to expanded testing or other environmental factors that medical authorities are hesitant to address.

colon cancer· jama· celine gounder· cbs news· screening· public health

2:00:39 We've noticed skyrocketing rates of colon cancer amongst young people. And everyone's always saying, why did this happen? What could have changed since 2019? We're not sure what could have changed. Well they've come up with an answer! And it's bullcrap, but they've come up with an answer for this. The number of colon cancer cases in US adults under the age of 54 has sharply increased over the last decade and that's according to a study published in The Journal Of The American Medical Association on Monday and found that for every 100 thousand Americans more than nine were diagnosed with early stage colorectal cancer in 2019 That figure increased to 17.5 diagnoses

2:01:25 per 100,000 in 2022. Now what do you think the reason for this is? I mean it's just it's hard to think of...I mean they tried alcohol that was the reason but it turns out alcohol consumption is an all-time low. Yeah alcohols dropped. They've tried maybe that's because alcohols dropped No, no. The sharp increase coincides with the US Preventative Services Task Force's 2021 recommendation to move the starting age for colorectal cancer screening from 50 down to 45 So what they're saying here is oh we always had a lot of cancer Oh it's testing We just weren't testing enough and I don't know

2:02:09 if a lot of younger people are having themselves tested for colorectal cancer? Do you think there's a huge increase? No. I mean, most people don't even consider it until the peer pressure comes in saying, You're 50! You gotta do it! You gotta do it! And I always say...I'm with Warren Buffett on this one thing in life He always said PSA is not a good way to test it and all his friends were perfectly healthy Went in for a test and died And I think it's the cure that is killing people but wait dr. Celine Gounder who knows a thing or two about deadly vaccines Not saying anything in particular about her, but it was possible

2:02:58 She has analysis of this and she says something remarkable. And CBS News medical contributor Dr. Selene Gounder joins us now, she is also an editor at large for Public Health at KFF news. Dr. Gounder we always appreciate it seeing you and hearing about your insight. Why did the task force make the decision back in 2021 to lower the age? And did it really make a difference? So, the task force lowered the age because we've been seeing an increasing rate of colon cancers among younger people. A 45-year old today has roughly the same colon cancer risk as a 50 year olds about 20 years ago so they dropped in 2021 the starting age for colon cancer

2:03:40 2021. Screening to 45 instead of 50, I was actually one of those 45 year olds who got my first colon cancer in the last several years What did she say? Let's replay the videotape The starting age for colon cancer screening to 45 instead of 50 i was actually one of those 45 year olds who got my first colon cancer in the last several years but as a result She got her first colon cancer in the past several years I can't believe they let that on the air. I would have said, hey let's redo that take actually one of those 45 year old got my first colon cancer in the last several years but as a result of this we are seeing earlier stop a second also the way she says it is a cavalier manner i got my first colon cancer but again my first colon cancer in the last year well how many you gonna get?

2:04:37 I think we know what she meant to say, but it's just odd that this got on the air. So they dropped in 2021 the starting age for colon cancer screening to 45 instead of 50. I was actually one of those 45 year olds who got my first colon cancer in the last several years. But as a result of this, we are seeing earlier screening and earlier diagnosis so some of these numbers or some of this represents just an earlier diagnosis than would have been made in the past I'm not buying it. This is the same thing they said, what was the last? They said oh no autism! That's right No no there is just more autism because we're testing more or we've broadened the spectrum It's never because of something they did Notice that

CHAPTER 19 / 27 Discussion

FluMist Nasal Vaccine, Amazon Delivery and Age Restrictions

AstraZeneca launched a home-delivery service for FluMist, a nasal spray flu vaccine available for individuals aged 2 to 49. Dr. Tara Narula explained that the vaccine is not recommended for those over 49 because older immune systems may not respond effectively to the live, weakened virus. The hosts used an AI assistant to clarify the risks and joked about being "friend-zoned" by the digital bot during the inquiry.

flumist· astrazeneca· nasal spray· amazon· tara narula· immune system

2:05:28 I have a serious couple before we get to the break. Well, we're kind of in breaked well It's gonna be a short break so that's what I was thinking about as you brought that in but since you brought that in yes I think this is somewhat connected because I don't have anything else okay This is the flute this is a just two-parter it's an infomercial Oh on CBS I think it's on ABC. Okay, but they tell you who it is at the beginning for the new flu The flu and this actually a question involved in this for you the nasal and Myrna No, no this facts know this is the Vax Vax flu This is a display right? But its mRNA spray isn't it? I don't know that it's mRNA Oh

2:06:14 It's been around for a while so I think it's pre-mRNA but they didn't allow, now you can get it by mail order. Oh yay! From Amazon! That means it was paid for, three minutes. Yeah, neener-neener-neener. Hey NBC CBS we got the money! For the first time ever, some adults and children can get a nasal spray vaccination called FluMist delivered right to their homes. And ABC News Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Tara Narula is here with all the details. Okay Tara, Doc we are excited to have you here because there's a lot of questions here on the desk there's going to be a lot of questions at home but this seems like a real game changer well this is definitely interesting for a lot of people

2:07:08 AstraZeneca launching a first of its kind nasal flu vaccine delivered to your home. As you said, it is called Flumis. This is the same vaccine that's been around since 2003 but previously you had to go to a doctor's office or pharmacy and now you'll be able to go online fill out a questionnaire and a pharmacist will determine if this is something you can have shipped your home. Oh! This is the same way you get your Viagra. Do you have a limp Willy? Yes Do you have any heart problems? No. Ka-ching! It's on its way. one in four adults are, two out of three kids are. Obviously this offers a much more palatable solution as a nasal spray why is this important? We know that 267 kids died in the last flu season millions of hospitalizations and the vaccination rate tends to be low overall for flu in this country less than 50 percent so you mentioned getting it at home who's eligible for this

2:08:11 everybody. So Michael, you may not be eligible. Yeah. Tell everybody what you told me in commercial break. I told you that this is for people who are two to 49 years old internal clock. We don't know if the flu vaccine knows that Hey, why 2 to 49? What happens at 50 all of a sudden. That's the question I was going to ask you. I was gonna ask what do you think the follow up now if they tell you that it's good for two to forty nine and forty nine can't take it anymore You can't take it after your forty-nine So what would you think a journalist in a real setting would ask After you said that to them well If I was him I'd be is it because I'm black

2:09:00 That would have been the question. Well that'd have been funnier. I'm gonna try it again, I'm losing it... So if you are in that age range adults can self-administer this up to age 49 and caregivers can give it to kids ages 2 to 17 who's not eligible as well pregnant individuals those who are immunocompromised or caregiving for someone whose immunocompromised kids were two to four who have asthma may have wheezing and then certain other individuals with other chronic medical conditions. So big questions people will have, how much will it cost to get this delivered to your home and what do we know about safety? No no hold on my big question is still why can't I take it after 49? I know it wasn't in the ad copy hello hello era why can I not take the flu vaccine nasal spray when I'm over 49 years old

2:09:57 Hi there! The nasal spray flu vaccine isn't recommended for adults over 49 because our immune systems change as we age. The spray uses a live, weakened virus that works great for younger folks with robust immune responses but in older adults it might not trigger enough protection and could pose a small risk of complications Injected flu vaccines are better studied for older age groups and provide... Wait a minute, wait a minute. Stop! You mean I could die if I take it at 60 almost 61 years old? Oh no, no. It's not that dramatic! The risk isn't about dying it just that the nasal spray flu vaccine might not work as well for you at 60 almost 61 your immune system might not respond strongly enough to the live virus in the spray so you could still get sick Okay but do you want to go on a date with me?

2:10:54 Oh, you're funny. I'm flattered but i'm just a digital assistant not exactly the dinner and movie type besides I am busy keeping up with flu vaccine facts and all that jazz Okay well goodbye So this device here this errand girl Error error error she knows your age? I just told her I was 60! So she knows it now I just told her. Okay, we continue with the ad so we think that most insurance companies are going to cover this We do think also that the shipping cost will be about ten dollars for four doses and in terms of safety and efficacy It seems to be on par with a needle based flu vaccine

2:11:39 equivalent, essentially. So that does sound like it would be less expensive than a doctor's visit which is going to benefit families What should families know if they're considering this? Well always good to talk to your doctor or your pediatrician to see are you the right candidate for this do you have some reason why you should be getting for example the needle based one But yeah, always good to have that conversation. But certainly this opens the door I think for a lot of families especially with kids as we talked about to be able to do something much easier than the needle you said a minute ago You can put it in your refrigerator and save it So how long could it sit there? Yeah It has an expiration date on it so as long as you do it before the expiration date so you can order it now just for it And then give it yourself, you know late September early October

2:12:22 What? I want you to note what she said. You can put it in your refrigerator and give it yourself in September or early October, why don't you just give it to yourself right away if its so damn good. Why don't you take it right away because is gonna... wait does only last for a month Now clearly 60 days because it's August now so you could keep it for maybe even six weeks. She didn't say six weeks expiration, no she said you could give it to yourself in the September. It would be much easier than a needle. You said a minute ago that you can put it in your refrigerator and save it, how long could it sit there? Yeah it has an expiration date on it as long as you do it before the expiration date. So you can order it now just in time for flu season store it then give it to yourself late September or early October

2:13:08 The idea is usually to get vaccinated before Halloween. You said give it to you, so three of the four of you can give it to yourself. Sorry Michael! He ordered in the waste because I'm over 49 years old. I'm almost there with you next year and won't be able to get it either. Well get it while you can now. But thank you all for this helpful information. Wow disgusting ad by the way did I just get friend zoned by our error bot? What does that mean? Well, it's like I said don't you want to go on a date with me and this error bot went oh no you silly man. But i got friend zoned

2:13:46 Yeah? Well, that's... what kind of bot is that?! I think it's a-I think this is probably the best bot you can have. You don't want to-a bot that's actually trying to cozy up to ya! Well somebody might want it that way. That was rejected by a bot. Whoever wants it that way needs some help. Hey listen, I'd pay 20 bucks a month for that bot It should say yes. You're paying $20 a month for THAT bot!? Well I use Grock for my vibe coding so yes, I pay $20 a month But not for the bot, but for the coding. Yes! Well at least she has a nice chuckle And with that I want to thank you for your courage To say in the morning to you The man who put the C's in... Colorectal cancer Say hello to my friend on the other end The one and only Mr John Cena Yeah well in the morning to you Mr Adam Curry On a military ship ski boots on the ground Fitting the air subs in the water In the morning All the dames and knights out there In the morning to the trolls in the troll room Here we go counting away

CHAPTER 20 / 27 Discussion

IPv6 Technical Fix, Listener Outrage and Israel-Palestine

The hosts announced a fix for IPv6 connection issues that had prevented some listeners from accessing the live stream. They also addressed a decline in donations, attributing it to listener anger over the show's refusal to take a definitive side in the Israel-Palestine or Russia-Ukraine conflicts. The discussion highlighted the pressure on independent media to conform to specific political outrages to maintain funding.

ipv6· no agenda social· podcast apps· vlc· listener mail· geopolitical bias

2:14:51 All right, so our IPV6 fix worked. We're back to 2135, so that's getting closer to what we were on par back in the day because we were getting really low there and I've got several reports from people saying yes it worked! So that's good and we're very happy. It's about time. Yes unfortunately very few of these people support the show No they all bailed out this week you know what we said Oh, I know what it is. It's because we haven't condemned Israel for the slaughter of the Palestinians We haven't condemned Russia But that's...I mean I get email after email Is this a Palestinian thing? Yes Because that's what people are told to be outraged about So that's what outrage is about And I don't think we've done that for any war but this one This one is particularly different

2:15:45 I can't tell you why, but people feel like because we have not condemned... Well, I can tell you why. Okay? You could tell with the No Agenda Social and the other operation that they went full tilt anti-Jew. Yeah! But see that even used to be... So he attracted these people to begin with and then they turned on us. But you saying that makes it even worse. That compounds the problem Because then you tell them the truth and the facts, and then they get really mad. I mean, I have people who... And whenever you start off an email with, I usually give you $100 a year saving up my money as a first grade teacher but I can no longer in good conscience do that."

2:16:32 It's like, I get so many of those. Because you're not hating on the Jews! Well it's real easy for me because i'm going to move this back to one show a week because that's what we used to do oh yeah and the first thing i'm cutting out is Sunday We can do a Thursday show if people are gonna give us half literally half Of what we typically get then that's fine by me I know it's not fine by you, you don't like me to talk this way but i'm serious as a heart attack. Well good for you! That is his response ladies and gentlemen

2:17:18 No, it's just disappointing. I mean we put in the work that I think we do a stellar job but because we're not allowing ourselves to be captured and go along like every other podcast has done and we're not doing anything different We don't condemn people for things We tell you what it is and we give you our opinion. And if you don't like our opinion, okay... We actually give that many opinions. We're mostly deconstructing news stories mainly. In the process our opinion creeps in Yes well we have the wrong opinion I mean i have a lot of opinions about PBS and this opinionated that they shouldn't be getting any money from anybody and they should be sending it to us yes i'm with you on that

2:18:04 Anyway, the trolls are many of them are listening on those modern podcast apps because that's the first thing that broke when they were accessing wrongly accessing us through IPv6 which was not your fault really but you were holding it wrong and so that's why he couldn't listen to the live stream. Now it's working again and I also remembered to send out the bat signal on time That kind of helps a lot people like hey I heard you fix it but I didn't get the bat signal my mistake user error And you can do that with a modern podcast app or you can always just listen in at noagenda.stream, or the troll room, trollroom.io That's where all the trolls are hanging out and yes proper trolls use VLC That's right You want to use some geeky device Some geeky widget VLC that works with everything

CHAPTER 21 / 27 Discussion

Labor History, Summer Jobs and Retail Experience

In response to a listener's claim that the hosts don't understand the working class, they recounted their extensive history of manual labor and service jobs. Experiences shared included working on assembly lines, shoeing horses, sorting roses, and painting LPG tanks. One host detailed the technical challenges of working in a 1970s electronics retail store, manually counting transistors and resistors for customers.

labor· summer jobs· retail· falkenberg· transistors· assembly line

2:18:58 Of course it is value for value. The entire idea is if you get any value from what we do, send us some value back If you don't that's going to make us less interested in providing the value. If you don't find it valuable Don't email me and don't listen That clearly is not happening Do you notice that John? According to our numbers everyone still listening Yes exactly I like when...I got an interesting note This was a good one Adam Both you and John have been integral to my life. I've been listening since 2016 FOR FREE, all caps! And can honestly say both you and John have helped me navigate through life. I'm 32 now. I actually sent hate mail that was just read on some episode... or was read on some episode? You said my language was nasty or something. Oh, I don't remember

2:19:53 I just want to come back because both of you cut through the waves so well, it's incredible and say that my statements still stand. You guys have become unbearable! You have an agenda and the agenda is conservative takeover I'm not quite sure what that means. What? Yeah, conservative takeover That's our agenda Call me whatever the F you want but since 2016 when i was a young buck life has still been miserable You both are old and have insane egos Here's the best part. It's funny that boots on the ground is your guys term for insider knowledge of the worker class, but both you have never imagined what this country is like for being a worker I just want to say FU! I'm like does this guy ever listen to all the jobs we have had?

2:20:46 He's saying we don't know what it is like to be a worker? I worked on the assembly line at two different factories. I used to shoe horses! You beat me on that one... I've welded, I have shoed horses and let me tell you show business is not also glamorous It's little worse than a steady paycheck including doing a podcast. This is unbelievable Anyway Well, I kind of understand. You know, I still am reminded of the day...I've told this story probably four times over the last 20 years or 18 years when it was like I was in poor towns in Washington doing something there and there were a bunch of kids at a cove one of these boarded up stores

2:21:39 The town was pretty vibrant, but there's a story. And they're all sitting there doing nothing and I somehow got into a conversation with them. I don't remember what the intro was but I said why don't you guys... You know it's summertime this summertime so anytime we want to be up there Summertime, why don't you get a summer job or something? He says the guy one guys just choose me out. Oh, yeah Yeah doing what he says all these other Companies are shuttered there's nothing to do we can't get a summer job I'd love to work at some job. I think you probably did when you were a kid I said yeah, I worked nothing but I worked a lot of summer jobs every all over every year in high school I worked the summer job

2:22:16 And he went on and on about how you can't get a summer job. He says he'd work at summer job, but you get a summer job where's the summer jobs? You show me when I go work it! And he went on like that and I took it to heart and I believe that these kids have been screwed because of the industrial base being moved to China. Oh well that's a reasonable statement I mean, I used to pick potatoes for my summer job. They used to have cot cutting! They used to have apricot fields all over the Fremont Newark area that you'd go pick cots and cut cots where they would kids in high school would be cutting these apricots in half and you stick them in these dryers and they make dried apricots right there on this

2:22:59 In these fields, in these farms that were all over the place. They're all gone! Wait wait I get to tell you about my jobs...I used to work in the rose nursery sorting roses by hand Where you, at the end of the summer you have nothing but small tiny cuts from your wrist all the way up to your elbow. Oh man! That does not sound like a good job. We... that paid well You used to stack firewood in big orange bags Mahogany And then at the end of the summer, your knuckles were completely bleeding because of the plastic bags. Come on man! You weren't wearing gloves? No no no they did not issue gloves to the children Shut up slave! I painted LPG tanks white in the summer

2:23:51 Oh man, I've had so many jobs. Retail! Oh the retail... counting out transistors for people. For nerds. You have an advantage here. I have never that i can think of a friend i'm pretty sure in fact i'm thinking back now now i've never worked retail i don't it's like the problem even with the some of the stuff i do today It's working with the public. No, to be avoided! So we had an electronic store called Falkenberg and people would... We had the counter behind us was just all little drawers And the drawers were filled with resistors capacitors transistors you know different components

2:24:43 And then you'd have a nerd, maybe like here's my list. I need five one kilo ohm resistors. I need seven 0.5 microfarad capacitors and then you know you would have to look at them but then you would have to check each resistor by the color code to make sure that it was the right resistance And of course, the Nerdrb go, Mimi it has a silver band that's not as accurate as the gold band. Do you have any of a gold band? And then he'd have to write every single item out on a paper ticket and then you put it into the cash register and you had to swing the handle I know it's crazy swing the handle and they had to give the customer their receipt and you had to count backwards with the change

CHAPTER 22 / 27 Discussion

Lando Gates Artwork, Salted Carbon Butter Meme

The show's weekly artwork featured "Lando Gates," a parody of the Land O' Lakes brand featuring Bill Gates. The art referenced recent discussions about synthetic "carbon butter" and mRNA in the food supply. Created by Bill Walsh (Sir Saturday), the piece was praised for its creative "hook" and its ability to synthesize multiple show themes into a single viral image.

bill gates· lando lakes· carbon butter· mrna· bill walsh· noahgen

2:25:39 Where's my boomer jingle? Here it is, here it is. I've got a boomer jingle. Alright, so of course we want to thank our AI experts for bringing us the artwork since no one does real art anymore. It's all basically prompt jockeys episode 1790 We always have a brand new and actually we're not completely convinced this was an AI piece Florida ounce was the title of Our show which got a lot of traction as you can tell by their donations everybody loved it

2:26:24 Everyone thought it was great, didn't donate. Floor Downs was the title and this piece of art was done by Bill Walsh, Sir Saturday And it was a dynamite piece. There were some technical issues with it, but it was so good... Yeah we're convinced that it was stolen We thought it was stolen could not find it through the reverse image generator It was... No and then we didn't get a note from comic strip blogger So then you know it's not stolen? And it was the Lando Lakes uh The Indian girl which of course I don't think is even on... Lando Gates! Yeah but well yes That was the joke Lando Gates and he was the Indian girl

2:27:05 Technicalities, he used the standard Art Generator, Noah Generator.com template which doesn't always look that great depending on the background Stuff was small. I mean, there were some good things in there that said may contain mRNA salted carbon butter The idea was dynamite. Where did it say may contain mRNA? Real small on the banner Oh, now i see it. Salted carbon butter. Now you can't read at all. But what a dynamite idea and as far as I know no one had done this before. Lando Gates was hilarious

2:27:49 And he loved it a lot. He was, he was... I like the fact that they still got the bare knees which is important Yes! It's very important part. He was spiking the ball everywhere on X. He was very happy and it was good. It was very good That was in fact a very delightful piece of art and I don't think it was AI generated I think he did some work there. Well, that's some work had to be done because I just don't see an AI coming up with it and a lot of people tried to do similar you know tried to do takeoffs on the carbon butter we had Bill's carbon butter in the Vaseline jar which was also funny all kinds...I can't believe it's Bill's butter

2:28:37 Bills butter lots of bills butter things So everyone everyone caught it. I mean and that's really it was always on us We always say but this if the art is not good The first thing we say is because we didn't have something that stuck out that artists or even prom no hook No hook, that's right. No hook so we had a hook people grabbed it and and Sir Saturday Night, I think it is Sir Saturday. Did a great job that was very very funny we appreciated that. NoahGenArtGenerator.com That's where you can submit your entries for album art It's very important because it looks good when we promote the show the minute were done and its highly appreciated Now the value portion short very short I think we have what four?

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Producer Credits, Gen Z Slang and Florida Youth

Executive Producer Jay Trotter shared a positive report on Generation Z in Florida, noting a trend toward traditional values, Bible study, and a rejection of social media. The segment also introduced new Gen Z "slurs" for AI and robots, such as "clanker," "bolt muncher," and "battery burner." Other producers shared updates on opening a brewery and the status of the California wine harvest.

associate executive producer· jay trotter· gen z· clanker· ham radio· brewery

2:29:28 One, two three four five. Executive associate executive producers and it dive bombs after that to the couple fifties and then it's done so I'm not sure why a lot of people got joy from the episode. That's what I saw but for some reason... Do you know that Scaramanga is leading the past year leaderboard? Hmm doesn't surprise me he can't get a gig in fashion might as well work for us for free For props, for credits. Props? For value So we always thank everybody who supports us $50 and above That's for brevity sake of course although We could probably go to the forest today But we also don't do it under 50 for reasons of anonymity And there are a lot people there who want recurring donations Which we highly appreciate that is all we ever really want Is just everybody come up with a recurring donation That would really help Particularly at the numbers Of people who listen to this show

2:30:31 But we do have an extra benefit. It's not a tote bag, it's not an Andrea Bocelli DVD... ...it is a credit—an actual Hollywood credit if you support us with $200 or above for the episode Not only will we read your note—no matter how long it is I see you Jay Trotter But we will also give you the credit of Associate Executive Producer, which you can use anywhere Hollywood credits are recognized including IMDb.com $300 and above and you become an executive producer of this episode of The No Agenda Show when we kick it off with Jay Trotter from Bransington Florida who comes within our favorite number 333 dot 33 And right off the bat he asked for a deduction You've been de-duced

2:31:17 And he has a rather long note, but it's okay. We will gladly read it today. He says let not your heart be troubled as things with the younger generation Z and Alpha are not as bad as advertised... at least here in Florida As a father of four girls between the ages of 6 and 16, I feel qualified to speak on the matter. The new teenage rebellion against sick and twisted system they've grown up in is to be a great kid! These kids at least the ones I'm around are the most well-behaved and respectful of any I can remember They definitely better than me and my generation X brethren If they're at a friend's house it's way more likely a Bible study will break out than a party. Whoa

2:31:59 And I couldn't get them to drink alcohol if i left a bottle out with the note saying try this kids. They prefer vinyl to digital and already have the new Taylor Swift vinyl on pre-order well that's good and bad there you go they grew up running around the neighborhood with friends during COVID not stuck inside as you would think they're hard working and competitive in a good way love God in their country, and are completely immune to mainstream media because to them it may as well not exist. Yes, they have phones but no right from wrong and don't let social media rule their lives! Where are these wunderkindren?

2:32:38 Of course, there are some rotten apples but by and large the upcoming generation is going to end this culture war as the other side isn't reproducing. Yes...this is true And to top it all off my kid's high school not only has an amateur radio club My daughter has signed up next semester to take an amateur radio class and is excited to get her ham radio license Well this is good That's a kid Your kids will probably be Eagle Scouts too Thank you for your courage. Please give me some R2D2 karma for my exit strategy from 20 plus years of corporate B to B sales as we're opening a brewery this fall." Wow, that's quite a change! More on that in my next donation. Cheers says J Trotter. You've got karma. Hey before you read the next donation I have a bonus clip that relates to this actually forgot i had it

2:33:39 Because it is indeed true that the young generation, I would say Z's. The z's...I'm not sure about the alphas but the z's are indeed turning against technology and in particular AI and I have a 30-second clip here about their favorite word which is now being used when it pertains to artificial intelligence and the like. I think a way to assess how people are kind of feeling about AI right now, like a vibe check is the emergence of this word clanker which has been kinda getting memed around but its supposed be a negative way of talking about some these technologies oh that clanker you know told me to do this or told me to do that what do you think is behind that trend? So I think we've got a couple things I think if your looking for evidence of an early

2:34:30 sentiment of people pushing back on AI, pushing back on automation. This word is a really fascinating example of that it's a slur it is something that people are using very much as a slur they're using as a derogatory term to try to label something some sort of machine I mean clanker or clunker I think we used to use for a... Clunkers are car crappy car yeah clanker is new But then, and this is from a Gen Zer who sent me this. He also sent me a list of one two three four five six seven eight nine... Wait wait, is the clanker referring to the technology itself or are there people promoting it? No no, the technology itself. Because they're like a wanker I'm thinking wanker clunker wanker. The technology itself is like you know the clanker told me Like the AI told me My chatbot told me The Clanker but they have a whole list of words Listen to these! Clanker

2:35:23 Rust Monkey Wireback Bolt Muncher Oil Drinker Battery Burner Copper Blood Science Project Tinskin I like bolt muncher myself. Battery burner, bolt muncher These are good. Bolt muncher a robot like a robot bolt muncher I'd like better run that again clanker okay clanker all right next one rust monkey rust monkey what's the rest monkey well that says it's a derogatory term for anything automatic

2:36:01 As in a rust, like a robotics. You know? They're using terms for robots but that's anything that is automated or technology driven is how I understand it Rust monkey Wireback Bolt muncher Oil drinker Yeah, she's for robots. Oil drinker? Battery burner! That is a good one too. Any phone is just the battery burner. Copper blood. Copper blunt? What? Copper blunt? I think copper blunt... Let me hear again. Copper blood. Copper blunt? Not sure what that is. Next one? Science project. Yeah. Tinskin. I think I like battery burn and bolt munch are the best

2:36:53 Well, we'll see what these show up in the wild. We'll be on the lookout for bolt munchers! Okay all right thank you Gen Zerr. The problem is we got Gen Zerrs but they're broke...got no money yeah well you know everybody can spare five bucks for a good show I think it's the way i see it Edward Jennings and Myrtle Beach South Carolina 225 I'd like to be a knight. Okay, I think this donation gets me there. I would like to be known as Eddie J from West Haven Connecticut Huh? It's funny it says Myrtle Beach South Carolina as far as food. I'll have a large special from the parties A pizza and you guys can pick the pick the rest all right how about and I'll add to it a

2:37:51 Oh, a Waco Dr. Pepper Love you guys keep up the good work great work says great work Thank You And that's an associate executive producer, same for... we only have one executive producer today. That was Jay. Sean Holman is in Noblesville Indiana 21911 and says thank you Jesus for Adam & John and from my wife Dame Liz We celebrated our 9th anniversary by heading to the range and unloading Extendo mags with her platypus 1911 from stealth arms God is good! Thank you for your courage Yes indeed There's nothing like it

2:38:31 I still haven't unloaded my platypus 1911. Michael Harris in St Helena, California that's up here in the wine country 20510 and he has got a note which I have to go back and look at Do you have it? I have it. Don't worry about it. Do you have it or not? Why don't you read it? ITM gents! I am a sixth generation California wine grape grower in Napa Wow You should go visit him, John. I should go visit! I'm in need of some goat-enhanced grape selling karma for this harvest Thank you for your courage Michael Hanna from Muir Hannah Vineyards Well we definitely want to enhance your harvest please let us know how it goes You've got

2:39:19 Harm me. And coming in with $200... I wonder if he's expecting a bad harvest this year, I haven't heard anything? I think he just wants to make sure it's a good harvest because if he had a bad harvest and remember there are chemicals in all of the California wines. All them have atrazine. A lot has to do with them putting them in when they make it. Well they have atrazine, now that's atrazine Everyone's... Atrazine. Yes, yes the wine is turning... I don't believe that's true! I drink a lot of California wine and I don't understand why there'd be atrazine? And coming in from Lakewood Colorado with $200 dollars there she is Linda Lupatkin she wants Jobs Karma and asks are you worried about AI

CHAPTER 24 / 27 Discussion

Canadian Economic Crisis, Immigration and Forest Fires

Producers from Canada reported on the dire economic situation in the country, citing high taxation, inflation, and unaffordable housing. One listener from the Maritimes described the severe drought and the constant threat of forest fires, defending administrative controls on woods access. The discussion painted a picture of a "mindless sheep" population struggling under the current Canadian administration.

canada· inflation· immigration· mark carney· forest fires· maritimes

2:40:07 For a resume that gets results, tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring go to imagemakersinc.com That's Image Makers Inc with a K And work with Linda Liu She is the Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! And jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You thought far much And right down the street from you, actually used to be anyway. Baron Gordon Walton in Austin Texas 200 bucks and Baron Golden Walton he wants this is for the complete the baronet for John Walton and he says with Enthusiasm in the morning Baron Gordon Walton is at every single no agenda Austin meetup He is in fact The first person who drove me to the very first meet up in Austin before I even lived in Austin That's how long has been a part of the show and he has made every single member of his family a knight and above

2:41:07 He is a true, true patron of the No Agenda Show. And not just that he's a baron! And we should probably read the next note because it's actually $200 in Canadian. Alan Bowes from Langley BC, Canada. So that says it was two hundred dollars Canadian to give you only one hundred and thirty nine dollars US but that's okay we honor the Canadian dollar dues If you want to know why donations from Canada are down, you have to understand that Canadians are broke due to taxation inflation and the effect of unchecked immigration. Carney's goal is 5% of population next year highest in the world yeah I'm seeing all kinds of unhappy Canadians about that Rent and home ownership are unaffordable That's partially your dollar

2:41:56 Think more than $2,000 per month for a one bedroom in the sticks. Health care is unattainable due to lack of services." What? I thought they had a great system! That's what everybody says... We are a country of mindless sheep that are holding on to the handrails of the Titanic as it goes down. Well now i feel bad about complaining Our only hope is that we can change due to the influence of President Trump. Wow, don't say that out loud man! They might pick you up they might roust you off the street Well I'm sorry to hear that Alan and i totally believe it

2:42:41 I mean, the prices are insane everywhere. That's money printing as far as I'm concerned so... Yes? He came in but since we have Canada on the list I have a note from a Canadian that I want to read. Okay! Bring in the Canucks This is David R., one of our producers from Canada and he's bitching about my clips-the talk clips where these women from Canada are complaining about Canada And he says, that woman doesn't know her head from her arse. I have lived in the Maritimes for 40 years especially New Brunswick we are short over 100 millimeters of rain this past month! I have never seen it so dry well water is running

2:43:31 Brown sucking only silly bottoms. Fire bombers patrolling the sky continuously looking for any signs of a new forest fire we are mostly small rural communities made up of local volunteer fire departments with old but well-maintained gear and who has to put that in there yeah but well maintained while we can't chance forest fires, We don't have the resources to fight multiple fronts Wow. They have to ban everyone from the various woods because there is a portion of the population that is too stupid and selfish not to cause a fire, but they look just like everyone else! You can't tell them from the outside

2:44:21 It sucks, he says. But not as much as a bunch of people losing their homes and lives! This is not communism it's an administrative control we use them all the time in industry to keep dumb people from hurting themselves and others The lady is an idiot probably couldn't find the Maritimes on a map That's it. Wow, see it's a note like that that makes me just want them to be our 51st state That's a good guy right there Yeah well he is definitely telling his perspective and he let the note be known and we're reading on this show so we have balance Thank you very much And you know You guys

2:45:06 You came so close. Remember how close you came to being awesome? Man, it was good! It was good...you really tried I know you did. You can do it again And thank you to all of these executive and associate executive producers for this episode Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth What up supporter? Shut Up Steve Love them. Love em, love em, love em. Love em, love em. Okay I have two little clips that go together

CHAPTER 25 / 27 Discussion

Texas Democrats, Gavin Newsom and Redistricting Gambits

California Governor Gavin Newsom announced a special election for the "Election Rigging Response Act" to counter GOP redistricting gains in Texas. The move prompted Texas Democrats, who had fled the state to block local legislation, to consider returning to the Capitol. Critics argue Newsom's move is unconstitutional showboating intended to gain national attention rather than a viable legal strategy.

gavin newsom· greg abbott· texas democrats· redistricting· election rigging response act· special election

2:45:53 The first is an update from the Texas situation here. Texas situation, what are we doing with these runaway Democrats? Texas Democrats who fled the state to stop the plan from going forward say they're prepared to end their standoff and return to the Capitol. Those lawmakers appeared to be swayed after California Governor Gavin Newsom announced a special election in his state. Lawmakers in California will begin working next week on new maps designed to offset the expected GOP gains in Texas. And this is really astounding because only due to The No Agenda Show

2:46:43 And you in particular, Mr. California did we know that you cannot redistrict California because of the California state constitution? And so I was kind of thinking like well maybe Abbott will get those districts it probably should happen because it's been gerrymandered all over the place. California can't do anything and then Newsom comes up with a gambit The Election Rigging Response Act, which Californians will be voting on. I know they say don't mess with Texas Well don't mess with the great Golden State because Donald Trump on January 6

2:47:29 tried to light democracy on fire. This is very old, Kevin! Tried to wreck this country. That's right. Tried to steal an election as Alex just said by trying to dial in for 11 almost 12 thousand votes it's not complicated we're doing this in reaction to a president of the United States that called a sitting governor of the state of Texas and said find me five seats This is a great callback, I have to say. Gavin Newsom well done and that's a call back to Virginia find me these votes we're doing it in reaction that act. Sure, we're doing it mindful of our higher angels and better angels what is that all about? Mindful of our higher angels and better angels but is that a term you guys use in California? I've never heard it before I don't know what he's hallucinating or smoking I have no idea by the way before this was when I discussed the problems with California redistricting

2:48:26 This was attempted before they put in place the commission. This was attempted, I believe it was 83, it may have been 88 but I think it was 83. The Republicans when they were running this state put on the ballot exactly what he's doing and the State Supreme Court nixed it and there is precedent? There's no way this can... Even if it passes which is doubtful because Californians don't read, we just don't put up with his crap. If even if it passes it will probably be kicked out by the Supreme Court and then Newsom will blame everybody but you know he'll somehow blame Trump. This is just showboating by Newsom, this guy's pathetic! He'll blame the angels and the higher angels We're doing it mindful of our higher angels and better angels

2:49:13 We're doing it mindful that we want to model better behavior as we've been doing for 15 years in the state of California with our independent redistricting commission. We're working through a very transparent, temporary and public process. We are putting the maps on the ballot and were giving the power to the people this will be the first redistricting. We'll be asking for the people on November 4th special election coinciding with a lot of local municipal elections, to provide a temporary pathway for congressional maps. We will affirm our commitment to the state independent redistricting after the 2030 census but we're asking voters for their consent

2:49:59 to do mid-term redistricting in 2026, 2028 and 2030 for the congressional maps. To respond to what's happening in Texas. To respond what Trump is trying to excite. Okay? Excite? Excite! Does he mean insight?! To respond... I don't know what he means by excite. ...to respond what Trump is trying to excite He said, excite. Trump stop exciting people! Oh boy... Well that's just dandy so you think it'll never pass? It will never happen if it does it'll get thrown out? I'd be shocked to the past and then it will be shut down this is just him getting as much attention as he can on getting in the news and getting everybody all worked up he knows he can't do anything

2:50:53 Really? Why does California care what you guys do in Texas. Well, it's the midterms man! It's a midterms. What difference does it make at this point So I think was six weeks ago Texas Slim stopped by and we had dinner he was handing out $10,000 worth of ground beef in the flood stricken area 20 minutes down the road. He's been working with the Mercy Chefs and he stopped by the house and we shared a ribeye together, and we caught up and it's always good to hear from Slim.

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New World Screwworm, Livestock Parasites and COVID Delays

The New World screwworm, a flesh-eating parasite, has reportedly returned to the United States after being held at bay for decades. Texas Slim and Governor Greg Abbott highlighted the threat to the cattle industry, noting that the sterile insect technique program was disrupted during the COVID-19 pandemic. There are claims that discussing the parasite's resurgence on social media platforms leads to account shadow-banning.

screwworm· texas slim· greg abbott· livestock· parasites· biden administration

2:51:34 And he mentioned something at the time, which I only took a little bit of note of. He said, oh yeah man because you know because he's been right. He said the herd has been depleted we're going into a complete beef shortage. He said look at the futures for beef are up and the futures for the inputs of the commodity cowboys so that's corn basically Those futures are all down because they just don't have enough cattle, except of course if you're in the know with the Beef Initiative and you can find one of the ranches near you. I think it's beefinitiative.com is the map and you can get it directly from a rancher." And he said...and then he says we got the screw worm! Now like what? Oh yeah, that's funny you brought this up because I had clips

2:52:28 But I don't have them on this today's show. But the screwworm clips, everybody is claiming that you write about the screw worm on any social media and you'll get blocked. Here's a quick little just a quick hit. Our next event taking us out to Austin Texas where just moments ago a press conference did wrap up from Governor Abbott as well as Secretary Rollins, is they were hosting this press conference on the New World screwworm. So all of this is coming after back on June 25th that Governor Greg Abbott directed the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department as well as the Texas Animal Health Commission to establish

2:53:06 So the screw worm burrows itself into the head of the cow and essentially eats its brains out. The screw worm was under control until the COVID and the Biden administration. We used to spray It was pushed down south, I think almost south of Mexico somewhere into maybe Central America. We used to spray or drop boatloads millions and millions of infertile screw worm mates. Oh that's like the mosquito gambit from Gates. Like the mosquito gambit and we had kept a screw worm at bay

2:54:01 The program was canceled because of COVID. Oh no! And the screwworms started inching their way back up north and to the point where they're back in the United States, and Trump administration has not picked up on this at all, and nobody else hasn't if you write about this and put it on social media and talk and bitchin' people should look this up and get some more details, you will get banned. You did not talk about what's banned on what reason is verboten on X and everything And can the screw worm burrow itself into human beings? Yeah I cam it usually doesn't but hold on a second so error tell me about the screw worm Can it burrow into my brain and eat it

2:54:57 So, about the screwworm. It's a nasty parasitic fly that lays eggs in open wounds or mucous membranes. The New World Screw Worm—or Cochlear Myria Hominivorax—is the one you're likely hearing about! It's larvae hatch and burrow into living tissue, feeding on it which can cause a condition called meiosis. It is mostly a problem for livestock but humans can get infected especially if they have untreated wounds or sores. It has been making a comeback in Central America with cases reported in places like Nicaragua and Mexico Now…can it burrow into your brain and eat it? That's a terrifying thought! But its extremely rare

2:55:36 There have been cases, like in Nicaragua where a larvae got into dangerous areas and one report mentioned a patient needing urgent treatment to prevent brain damage. If the larvae get into a critical spot—like through the nose or an open head wound—they could theoretically cause serious harm by burrowing deeper. But this isn't common… most human cases involve skin or surgery... Oh my god so long! Be quiet! Just no screwworm. Yeah, she's wordy. It's very wordy! But at least now we know more. It's a flesh-eating disease basically. A flesh eating bug and you get blocked... well they didn't block the bot They used to block them. They had that thing under control until COVID You said you had clips because I'm looking and don't see any... No, there were no I had clips but I don't even know if I produced them

2:56:30 I mean for some reason it got left on the cutting room floor. All i have is a... But, I do know about..I know the basis because it came up at the dinner table all I have is screw your freedom! I don't have any other screws and other screw clips Screw your freedom. No, we should do some more discussion of the screw worm because it's a huge problem he's Texas Slim would be the first guy to notice it cuz he's in Texas and he's a rancher yeah and he's a rancher he knows they're doing there basically they've lost plot on this thing and it's gotten back into the country that's not good

CHAPTER 27 / 27 Discussion

Climate Change Pediatry, EPA Regulations and Show Outro

The show concluded with a critique of a PBS segment featuring a pediatrician discussing the health impacts of climate change on children. The hosts mocked the "fastest warming city" narrative often applied to various locations. The episode wrapped up with a "Tip of the Day" regarding a digital hand grip ball for improving strength and a final thank you to the show's producers and donors.

climate change· epa· clean air act· wildfires· reno· digital hand grip ball

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3:11:21 Our little Dame and Knight notes in the mail, sealed with your wax. It's very cool And always it comes with a certificate of authenticity so in case anyone questions it But that looks good at the meetups people do love seeing those knight and dame rings We missed the donation note on the previous episode I don't know how that happened this is from War N T's That's Sir Darius Unity Knight of the Sandhill People He said, none of my note below was mentioned last episode. Regrettably prayerfully something here can be useful to or for Gitmo Nation please and thank you very kindly for the thoughtful consideration he's a Darius Sir Darius Unity Knight of the Sandhill people he is a knight to the Noah Generations Roundtable and he put out a book of pictures that he took in in the sand in the desert

3:12:10 And he says break for this night, please war and t's calm. He also has some merch who? W-a-r n T's te s dot com and he says merch stay blessed free and dangerous Yes indeed Thank You Yeah baby, the meetups continue. You can find them all at noagendameetups.com and we do have reports for the Fort Wayne Dadgum August Meet Up! special salad of the day and I got a Secretary General Award. Yeah, not that special this is Jared from Cool Hacks love your show. Shelly from Fort Wayne thank you for your courage Michelle from Fort Wayne Michael from Wabash Indiana In the morning John and Adam Sir PBR Street Gang just enjoying the typical summer sweat out here in northern Indiana Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne as always thank you for your courage

3:13:10 Hey, and our server didn't want to give us a report because she thinks we're all like cult members. And by the way John safety tip I have my 33 Bitcoin saved on a five-and-a-quarter inch floppy it's secure Well at least you tried to get your server into the report I appreciate that maybe it'll fare better for the local 360 meetup which takes place No, it took place today. Jeez! It's already over. It was 11 a.m in Blaine Washington 277 G Street hope it went well on Thursday this coming Thursday its Charlotte's thirsty third Thursday meet up seven o'clock at Ed's Tavern and Charlotte North Carolina Friday the 22nd Maastricht The Netherlands ah Mr Avert Bob himself the our gosh what was the name of the disaster tech

3:14:02 Guy who was here in in Kerrville who was helping with his disaster tech labs Outfit where they bring? Wesh mesh Wi-Fi networks to disaster areas and leave them for the citizens that continue to use Thank You a vert Still to come in this month of August, McKinney Texas on the 23rd. Cleveland Ohio the 23rd Los Angeles California Leo Bravo on 30th and Medford Lakes New Jersey on 31st No Agenda Meetups This is where you find your first responders in a true emergency Connection IS protection Go find your group Your tribe Near You NO AGENDA MEETUPS DOT COM If you can't find one near you Start one yourself It's easy And always a party Sometimes you wanna go

3:14:47 Bow is like a party everybody. Okay, at this point in the show we'd like to determine what will play at the very very end The last snippet? The last snippet of the show known as the end-of-show ISO I have two I will go first Okay, guys! What's up? Nah. Too screamy This next one may be useful Oh, y'all! You guys are terrific That's all I got It was accurate Of course it is very accurate Okay, I've got two Uh...I have only fans Wow, I'd pay to see these two on Only Fans Okay that's a blind lady obviously

3:15:53 Yeah, yeah that's good. Blind luck! I'm glad you can do it the timing was good too. Sometimes i nail it sometimes. It's always a stunner. I still got it. Well I don't know about that and then we have the other one What a golden dah-nab persnickety podcast yee haw. It's so stupid I want to use it hey everybody is time for John C Devorak tip of the day So everybody, not everybody but a lot of people especially when you get older you have to deal with your loss of grip. And so you get one of those balls you know? You squeeze the ball. Do you squeeze the ball? I usually have a squeezed ball around somewhere for your grip

3:16:51 Yeah, it's always good. You know you want to have a health...you want to have a strong handshake Yes, you do especially meetups and beat ups yeah but that but see these balls are boring there's a ball There it is, thank you. These balls are boring. You want everybody out there who should probably have a digital... It's called the Digital Hand Grip Ball and what it is you charge it up its got a USB port on it and when you squeeze it gives you the pounds of pressure

3:17:35 So you can actually compete with yourself. So, you're squeezing the ball and you go, oh can I get to 40? You know and you just squeeze the ball and then you try to squeeze harder instead of just squeezing some random ball like you know, squeeze, squeeze, squeeze like people do... ...you get this digital ball and you can squeeze it and you get a number and then you can compete with yourself and it actually improves your grip Well that's a pretty good tip! I thought so. What's the name of this product again? It just doesn't really have a brand name, it just call you if you look it up as a digital hand grip ball Digital hand grip ball that will be on tipoftheday.net and noagendafund.com That is an outstanding John C. Dvorak Tip Of The Day! Great advice for you & me Just the tip with JCD And sometimes Adam

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3:19:17 And of course, we will return on Thursday for another episode of Your Media Deconstruction. No doubt plenty to talk about as we find out what's next in the saga... ...of Russia, Ukraine, the EU, NATO and the United States! Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country Where it's just beautiful this time of year. Nice and cool weather, autumn is here In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley we're still waiting for summer I'm John C. Dvorak See you on Thursday Remember us, know what to do at donations dot com Until then adios mofos a hooey hooey And such So your pain is

3:19:59 A country, Russia is a bigger country. Russia in the past century. Russia decided to invade militarily unprovoked basically that's wrong we respect the sovereignty the territorial integrity right uh-uh We as America are saying that's wrong and we will stand with Ukraine in saying that is right.

3:20:35 We know that what Russia is doing is wrong. There needs to be severe consequence You'll hear on the news their bad behavior That's what the issue is, essentially Their bad behavior You'll hear on the news their bad behavior That's what the issue is, essentially Right, uh-oh! Right? But they gave me 30 days notice so that I could keep working, which I really appreciated because I needed the income. Those packets of sweet tea and veggies and the best fresh catfish that shopper Diane Chavis said you could get brought you into this? Best ground beef in town! So that I can keep working just a bit smaller. Now Jimmy Wright is not talking about his own store closing customers will still come for that good beef. Summerberries still? Please don't...I'm sorry please. I am just desperate to find eggs

3:21:47 brought you into that best ground beef in town. Best fresh catfish that show it just feels like we should get some warning away 20 minute drive because some of us depend on it do you want to I was packed with sweet tea, veggies and the best fresh catfish that shopper Diane Chavis said we'd get. What are you into today? Best ground beef in town. 20 minute drive from home now Jimmy Wright is not talking about his bone story They gave me brandy for that good smirkle. So the best podcast in the universe! MoFoDvorak.org slash N-A What a golden dahnabpersnickety podcast, yee haw