Episode 1788 · Thursday, 7 August 2025

chatJCD

A massive federal pivot on vaccine funding collides with a new era of reciprocal tariffs and a high-stakes diplomatic mission to Moscow.

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HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. canceled nearly $500 million in federal contracts with Pfizer and Moderna, signaling a major shift away from mRNA vaccine technology. Kennedy argues that the BARDA-funded projects failed to prevent viral mutations and plans to pivot toward whole-virus killed vaccine platforms. The move has triggered a sharp backlash from media outlets like NPR and CBS, where Dr. Celine Gounder defended the subsidies as essential for national security.

Global health concerns mount as the CDC issues a travel warning for China's Guangdong province following a surge of 7,000 Chikungunya cases. Meanwhile, ECB President Christine Lagarde admitted the Digital Euro will lack the absolute privacy of physical cash, and U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff met with Vladimir Putin in Moscow to negotiate a ceasefire in Ukraine. In the Pacific, the State Department is engaging the Cook Islands to secure seabed minerals and counter Chinese dominance of rare earth elements. Domestically, Senator Josh Hawley introduced the American Worker Rebate Act to distribute $150 billion in new tariff revenue directly to citizens via $600 checks.

Satirist Alex Stein brought his signature brand of chaos to the Texas House with a provocative testimony on the bathroom bill that left legislators stunned. The technical side of the show explores the failed experiment of ChatJCD, a conversational AI co-host that proved current large language models are still trapped in a rigid question-and-answer loop. The broadcast concludes with a military MRE taste test and a look at the history of school sock hops.


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CHAPTER 01 / 34 Discussion

Sidney Sweeney Clickbait and Microsoft Edge Browser

The discussion opens with observations on the prevalence of Sidney Sweeney in news cycles, particularly within the Microsoft Edge browser's clickbait-heavy feed. The browser is criticized for its aggressive ad placement and tracking of user interests despite claims of privacy.

sidney sweeney· microsoft edge· clickbait· browser· msn

00:00 Well I'm here on the street and i don't know anything. I'm dumb you can tell by listening my voice and my accent. Adam Curry, John C Devorah It's Thursday August 7th 2025 this is your award winning Gimple Nation Media Assassination episode 1788 This Is No Agenda Gerrymandering for joy and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all wondering how Sidney Sweeney can still be in the news?

00:37 Really is that is that are you guys like behind in California? It's left mine. You're still talking about it No, it's left my I haven't seen it all you've gone MSN BC go ahead Oh no MSN just get the browser to be gonna browse What's the name of that browser they got there at Microsoft that which soon as she hit ads by the ton oh The outload... Clickbait? The clickbait browser. Edge, edge, edge! Yeah the edge click bait browser And it's not like they're trolling your computer to see what you're interested in No no none of that They don't have too this stuff is too good They know they want it I have some sad news actually I was trying desperately trying

CHAPTER 02 / 34 Discussion

AI Conversational Limitations and ChatJCD Experiment

An attempt to create a conversational AI co-host named "ChatJCD" failed because current large language models primarily operate on a question-and-answer framework. The technology struggles to maintain witty banter or provide opinions without ending sentences in questions. Despite these limitations, the models are noted for their uncanny ability to mimic human speech patterns.

artificial intelligence· chatbot· chatgpt· conversational ai· prompt engineering

01:30 to create a show, Adam Curry and chat JCD. Oh yes! Right this is your challenge... Impossible!! It turns out none of these chat bots can have a conversation they only understand the question-and-answer model so if I'm not asking a question or end my sentence with a huh then it will not respond and everything it says If it's just, you know random it ends with a question. It can't work alongside me and just chat You know does that make sense? Okay there is the question so it could answer that but just this witty banter we have...it's impossible Well, it's solvable It's not solvable Yes it is! It can be fixed and will be fixed How?!

02:26 Well, some... one of these geniuses will fix it. No! It's not meant for that and if you look at every video everything out there- It is not meant for that That's kind of an interesting thing to say out of the blue Is that a strange thing I'm saying? Well, no you might be right. Yeah it's meant for questions... Which means it is not solvable No! It's a question and answer. It can't just because I've tried it and I'll just give it the pre-prompt like just jump in whenever you hear a pause And then would jump in and would ask me a question like I don't need your question Just give me your opinion doesn't have opinions

03:06 Has no opinions. But they're always couched in the form of a question or an answer Yes, exactly so it sucks! Oh you gave up too soon I'm really disappointed because i was ready Yeah well you know Too bad Well It does turn out that its really good Really good I mean like just uncannily good even though sounds like That um What's the uh Are using my voice by the way? Oh, I didn't even get to that. I just used what...I did say try to sound a little effeminate and it was like hey darling, no let's not do that. That didn't work. Chat GPT and the GPTs are very good though apparently at job interviews. Artificial intelligence might help you apply for a job and as it turns out

03:58 It may also end up interviewing you. Some companies are relying on the technology to have initial conversations with candidates, claiming it saves them time and money. Welcome to the interview for the marketing specialist position Isn't that the guy from France 24? They use his voice... welcome to the interview for this position Man I'd be hanging out right away like seriously but oh it doesn't stop Wait a minute what are you playing here is this would if If I call to get an interview, this is what I end up hearing? Yes! On the phone. This is the pre-interview. Now they schedule an interview...I'm sure that's all AI scheduling. Is it on a phone? Well its a phone call. Or over the computer or is it on Zoom? This has not made clear. Claiming it saves them time and money

CHAPTER 03 / 34 Discussion

AI Job Interviews and Automated Hiring Systems

Companies are increasingly using AI agents from startups like Ribbon AI to conduct initial job interviews and screen candidates. Applicants report mixed experiences, including AI agents that lack personal touch or fail to stop talking during scheduled sessions. While proponents claim it saves time for manufacturers and restaurant chains, critics argue it leads to the hiring of poor candidates who simply learn how to exploit the system's flaws.

ribbon ai· hiring· job interviews· automation· cbc

03:06 Has no opinions. But they're always couched in the form of a question or an answer Yes, exactly so it sucks! Oh you gave up too soon I'm really disappointed because i was ready Yeah well you know Too bad Well It does turn out that its really good Really good I mean like just uncannily good even though sounds like That um What's the uh Are using my voice by the way? Oh, I didn't even get to that. I just used what...I did say try to sound a little effeminate and it was like hey darling, no let's not do that. That didn't work. Chat GPT and the GPTs are very good though apparently at job interviews. Artificial intelligence might help you apply for a job and as it turns out

03:58 It may also end up interviewing you. Some companies are relying on the technology to have initial conversations with candidates, claiming it saves them time and money. Welcome to the interview for the marketing specialist position Isn't that the guy from France 24? They use his voice... welcome to the interview for this position Man I'd be hanging out right away like seriously but oh it doesn't stop Wait a minute what are you playing here is this would if If I call to get an interview, this is what I end up hearing? Yes! On the phone. This is the pre-interview. Now they schedule an interview...I'm sure that's all AI scheduling. Is it on a phone? Well its a phone call. Or over the computer or is it on Zoom? This has not made clear. Claiming it saves them time and money

04:45 Welcome to the interview for the marketing specialist position. We're excited to learn more about you and your background. When Martha Shafik logged on for her... I think that AI is incapable of being excited about anything. ...latest job interview, she realized she was speaking to artificial intelligence. What was the clue? What was the giveaway? Was it something in the way it spoke or that voice that you've heard a million times? I was caught off guard. It was asking such good follow-up questions. She says the AI was extremely polite, but she felt something was missing. There's no small talk nothing personal and I wasn't able to really tell if my answers were landing or not These AI hiring bots can now screen shortlist and interview job applicants

05:29 It's set up like a Zoom meeting. Candidates have a conversation with the synthetic voice, the AI will then summarize the call and score the candidates for someone at the hiring company to review. Do you have any questions about how this interview will go? For some applicants, AI can add confusion to the process Maureen Green had to end an interview herself because the AI wouldn't stop talking. So at an hour in, I'm like so...I don't mean to interrupt but you know it's been more than half an hour after the scheduled time of our interview. I just want to be mindful of your time even though it's an AI agent

06:08 There's a second. This is from CBC by the way. I decided to give it a try and test the AIs reaction. Oh deep journalistic effort! How much do you get paid? Haha well, i'm just here to help with the interview process so I don't have a paycheck but for this role compensation details would be disgusting- Wait stop That ha-ha was very sarcastic. Yeah, it was rude! Borderline rude! I think so... Ha-HA! Yeah, haha. Haha! Haha hee-hoo hoho to the funny farm. Haha well I'm just here to help with the interview process so i don't have a paycheck but for this role compensation details would be discussed later in hiring process anything else you're curious about? My conversation went pretty smoothly with no glitches though I probably didn't score the job there are handful of startups working on this software one of them Toronto based Ribbon AI was founded just two years ago

07:08 CEO Arsham Garimani says he already has 400 customers. I do think this will become the norm for a lot of industries, so think like a manufacturer really large restaurant chains. These are all areas where it's often really hard to hire for those roles He says the AI recruiter works around the clock So it saves employers from running hundreds of interviews a day and it frees up human employees from tedious tasks like scheduling though Garamani insists humans make the final call on hiring. fears that. But I think ultimately humans are always making decisions, but then there'll always be a human in the loop." Still it's clear as more companies embrace the technology who knows what's next? Workers will have to expect changes too. No no you're gonna wind up hiring crap candidates

08:05 This is so... Oh yeah, there'll be a little pamphlet or book or something on how to beat the AI because they'll get two or three companies that set these systems up and so they all have the same flaws. So once the flaws are exploited the smart money will get all the jobs. There's not even smart money, it's just people that looked up the right way to do it. This whole thing... I mean, you want to stick on AI? Because we can come back later if you prefer. I'm happy to do it now and there is some funny stuff. My whole thing, I wanna do these Vax clips but- Oh well! But I got a lot of Vax clips too We're vaxxed crazy man! Well, I would like to start the Vax clips because I think you are gonna have hard time beating

CHAPTER 04 / 34 Discussion

RFK Jr. Cancels mRNA Vaccine Research Contracts

HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. canceled nearly $500 million in federal contracts through BARDA intended for mRNA vaccine development. Kennedy argues that mRNA technology is ineffective against respiratory viruses and may paradoxically encourage viral mutations. NPR and other media outlets criticized the move, claiming it undermines national security and pandemic preparedness.

robert f. kennedy jr· hhs· mrna· barda· npr

08:50 NPR but at the same time... Hold on, let me see. I think i have NPR Vax Clips. Let me see. Well hmmm....I don't actually it may be.. I tell you what because its top of mind and as we know the M5M is completely owned by Big Pharma they are the largest advertiser by over 70% of revenue It's the amount of scripted stuff. Just it is so disgusting I want to set you up, okay? Okay, I was just gonna say that this trickles down to local Oh it trickles down to everywhere But I think the most important thing we can do for our no agenda producers Is go to the origin

09:49 The origin being the actual statement Robert F. Kennedy Jr made, he made a statement... Well I want to say please don't because it's the punchline to my NPR clips Okay do your NPR clips and screw y'all go find it yourself No! It'll be in here it's all in here well yeah okay okay Let's do it. Except, it's all in here except for the good part Well yeah that's why I wanted to play the whole thing No no the good part thats the punchline really take my word for it Im taking your word for it It's the last clip You know what chat JCD would just say sure Adam go ahead you're the man Yeah I know thats the reason im here

10:31 Go for it. And the people that they brought on, it's just an apology for the whole big pharma. Let's play these clips starting with clip one. The Department of Health and Human Services is canceling almost a half billion dollars in federal contracts that were meant to develop new mRNA vaccines It's the latest step that the administration has taken to curtail vaccine development and availability. To curtail? Okay I had to stop it here

11:13 They've taken steps to curtail availability? Haven't we discussed this on the show a million times that's bullcrap. All they're doing is keeping people from getting it for free maybe you can always get these vaccines yes that is what we call um a lie, Yes! A lie so they start off the entire presentation with a blatant lie The administration is trying to curtail availability. That's what she said! I heard it, we should defund them... oh wait Let's go to two. Hail vaccine development and availability, the move has alarmed, alarmed, alarmed public health experts and PR Health correspondent Rob Stein joins us now to explain Hi Rob! Hey there! So I don't want to exaggerate here but... Okay so this is the reason you really want to play your clips as you put five hours worth of work into editing these things to ridicule these poor people who are just reading scripts to start off with

12:17 But okay. Hey, hey Adam! That's okay but go ahead Kara. Hey there...hey there...Hey so I don't want to exaggerate here but this sounds like a huge blow blow blow to the development of MRA technology right? Like what exactly did the Trump administration announce here? Yeah, it's a huge blow. The mRNA technology is what made the most commonly used COVID-19 vaccines available so fast... Holy crap! This guy is great where he comes from? Does he work for NPR? Well honestly you don't get enough ad noise in there He just can't breathe Did he come from the podcast side of the house? It's interesting

12:55 But Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr says the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, known as BARDA is canceling a slew of federal contracts that were meant to develop mRNA technology to protect the country against respiratory viruses that could cause the next pandemic and other threats. Let's listen to what Kennedy said in this video. It's so hard to take this guy seriously! It's okay, here's your whole bunch of under-projects. This isn't your last game show, you know what I'm saying? Just keep it! Other threats... Oh, announcement After extensive review Barda has begun the process of terminating these 22 contracts totaling just under 500 million dollars

13:37 And this comes after Kennedy had already canceled more than $700 million in contracts to develop an mRNA vaccine to protect against flu viruses that could cause the next outbreak, like you know the bird flu. Yeah wait so did he say why he's doing all this? Well you know Kennedy has long questioned the safety of these vaccines and he's also saying the effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines leaves something to be desired As the pandemic showed us, mRNA vaccines don't perform well against viruses that infect the upper respiratory tract. And Kennedy goes much further claiming the mRNA vaccines actually speed the evolution of the virus and can't keep up with new mutations

14:19 Yeah, okay. All right. Well you go there first of all they're taking these selective clips from the Kennedy talk yes very much and then they're extrapolating which is what you do and Then there's doing it in such a way that it's like the guys are maniac this Kennedy guy He's vaccine has we know he's not We just we can't prove the other to the other to the contrary but he's no no It's not true anti-vax Yeah, because he's anti-vax. We know that! That's the problem with this guy. Let's go to Kurt Davy.

14:59 HHS has determined that mRNA technology poses more risks than benefits for these respiratory viruses. Wait, hold on! How are public health experts... What? Hold on I'm a newsreader. I know a lot about this stuff. Hold on it's safe and effective. Wait hold on how are public health experts responding to that yeah they're saying that none of what Kennedy claims is true Yes, none of it. Not a single bit of it I know this is the memo that went out None of it is true! None of it? None of it There's tons of evidence to the contrary A new report just came out from Japan showing the rate of deaths for people who got the shot Is higher than the rated death of people who didn't get the shot To an extreme But none if its true None of it

15:57 None of it, not a single word of it. Well who do you think they're going to bring in to talk about this? Oh please let it be Hotez! No. Hotez is only network TV, he's very rarely on NPR. That's too bad he's a good guy. He's better! Yeah but this guy is better Really? Better than Hotep?! Okay here we go According to the experts I talked today there is overwhelming evidence that the mRNA COVID vaccines are very safe and that they continue to protect people against severe illness even as the coronavirus evolves and that they've saved

16:33 millions of lives. Here's Michael Osterholm from the University of Minnesota, the progenitor of everything! The guy who came on just before I was on Rogan telling us that two million people were gonna die overnight ah this may be the most dangerous... by the way got COVID himself and has been Oh, he says long COVID which I think is a vax injury. A couple of times I think! Yeah, I think it's a vax injury and don't pay no attention to that.

17:15 Well, he's probably 70 then. He's been in the business for 50 years? No way! Well if he was 20... you can get into the business when your twenty You can't get your medical degree by the time your twenty. No, no in the business of health The healthcare business doesn't mean you have to be an MD. I could be in the healthcare business without a MD for 50 years He's 72, he's 72. Okay alright, it's doable. I concede. It is baseless and we will pay a tremendous price both in terms of illnesses and deaths. I'm extremely worried about it because also he says this leaves the nation without the quickest response to a new pandemic. And also many say abandoning mRNA technology leaves the country more vulnerable to bioterrorism. Here's Chris Meekins, he is a bio defense official in the first Trump administration. This is a tell! This is a tell you know...

18:09 One of the main theories that this was a bioweapon test gone wrong and that the mRNA shots were there as the antidote, is to tell when people are coming out. Well you know it's like we're open to bio-terrorism now without that awesome mRNA technology! Well, don't forget we had the clips from Malone that was discussed the fact that this was the CIA's answer. The CIA funded it! Funded answer to bioterrorism and they wanted to create a platform and they used the word platform. Yes, platform! To stop anything but the problem with the platform and there were two... The adenovirus platform was the other one that was competitive that caused a blood clot. Their platform is equal to I was gonna say OS 2 but that was actually kind of good it's basically Windows 3.1

19:06 I would think it's a platform that does it. That's no good, all the documentation is coming out against it but these guys are fighting back there. I don't know why they're fighting back to such an extreme. They've either got something planned...I don't like it Trump administration. I think that it endangers the national security of the United States, it could put the US at a strategic national security disadvantage and would be a significant threat to the national security of the United States because the us will no longer have the most powerful

19:44 He's got two reasons. If you go back it up, there are two reasons that this is a problem. One it's the national security threat and two it's a national security threat to the United States Right, because we won't have the answer. The same exact thing! Why is he saying this? Because of this and that and they're both the same national security threat national security threat now you are just mutinous okay it's okay we got we got frustration I think that in dangers the National Security of the United States could put the US at a strategic national security disadvantage and would be a significant threat to the national security of the United States

20:27 Because the US will no longer have the most powerful deterrent, effective vaccines that could be deployed quickly. Now Kennedy says the government instead plans to invest in another technology that uses whole viruses that have been killed He says that works better because it produces natural immunity but the whole virus technology is much older and has had some safety issues and isn't nearly as nimble as the mRNA technology That is NPR health correspondent Rob Stein. Thank you, Rob. This guy, this was so bad it was an embarrassment. NPR should be ashamed of itself for this presentation and they played these clips from Kennedy but the one clip they left out which is this one which it's part of the big clip that you have and I want to play this clip because this is the clip that they... This is editing by omission where you leave something out so you can tell your story but your story's bull crap because you left something out what you left out as the good clip

CHAPTER 05 / 34 Discussion

RFK Jr. Strategy for Safer Vaccine Platforms

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. released a statement explaining the shift from mRNA to "safer, broader vaccine strategies" such as whole-virus killed vaccines. He claims these traditional platforms provide better natural immunity and do not collapse when viruses mutate. The administration plans to move beyond mRNA limitations while maintaining support for vaccines that Americans choose to take.

rfk jr· hhs· vaccine safety· natural immunity· nih

21:30 And this is the Vax Kennedy clip left out. encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape the protective effects of the vaccine. Yeah, that was a very important part of his presentation That was to me the most important part Well what he said other things I mean I can play it but... yeah well you might as well played the whole thing now so we can actually hear what he said instead of the NPR propaganda and by the way they were

22:12 They were amongst the worst, but then when I heard my local news report from KTVU it was probably worse. Do you have a clip? No. Oh... I mean I could clip all day and it'd be the same thing just you know what it is It's just a bunch of promotion Well promotion its uh... Its ummm What is the term Hilton Knowles? Crisis management is what it is because they don't want people to stop getting any vaccine. You know, we don't want you to be... Because people are stupid! They're like oh vaccines not good Robert Kennedy said it but MMR and MMR is a big one for us We can have them stop taking that. They have example after example

22:53 I'm not happy with everything RFK Jr. said though. Hi, it's Robert F Kennedy Jr here. Hey! Why don't you go hey hi ho? Hey everybody! It's Bobby! It's Bobby everybody! You're HHS secretary. Yeah like that yeah i'm your HHS secretary at HHS we have a division called the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority or BARDA BARDA drives some of our most advanced scientific research. It funds developments of vaccines, drugs, diagnostics and other tools to fight emerging diseases and national health threats. Over the past few weeks BARDA reviewed 22 mRNA vaccine development investments

23:34 and began canceling them. Let me explain why, most of these shots are for flu or COVID but as the pandemic showed us mRNA vaccines don't perform well against viruses that infect the upper respiratory tract here's the problem mRNA only codes for a small part of viral proteins usually a single antigen one mutation and vaccine becomes ineffective This dynamic drives a phenomena called antigenic shift, meaning that the vaccine paradoxically encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape.

24:15 the protective effects of the vaccine. Millions of people, maybe even you or someone you know are dead caught the Omicron variant despite being vaccinated that's because a single mutation can make mRNA vaccines ineffective The same risk applies to flu After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH and FDA HHS has determined that mRNA technology poses more risk than benefits for these respiratory viruses. Didn't hear that anywhere! That's why after extensive review, BARDA has begun the process of terminating these 22 contracts totaling just under $500 million dollars Now wait for it... To replace the troubled mRNA programs we're prioritizing the development of safer broader vaccine strategies

25:07 Not liking this Bobby. Like a whole virus vaccines and novel platforms that don't collapse... New platforms! ...when viruses mutate, let me be absolutely clear HHS supports safe effective vaccines for every American who wants them Yeah keep that up tell everyone this one is safe and effective try that on us That's why we're moving beyond the limitations of mRNA for respiratory viruses and investing in better solutions Thank you. No, no. He was he was I'm cutting now and I'm not accepting that he was like oh we're gonna open up the archives We're gonna look at all them and all the corruption Okay, there's three promises is what you're referring to including Yeah, we're gonna really look at all the damage that these vaccines have done

26:12 done and we're gonna stop advertising. He can't stop the advertising because it's all editorializing as witnessed by this mini cut of four M5M reports which are, of course exactly the same for both the makers that... Well hold on a second I know where you're going here, but you can't stop the advertising. The advertising is what drives the editorial. Now, I would say that here's the argument you could make okay so there's no more advertising so they're not gonna pay us to do editorials are gonna give us big bucks yeah to just do this trade which is what you're suggesting yes but I don't think that that you keep your gonna get away with that oh please

CHAPTER 06 / 34 Discussion

Media Response to Vaccine Funding Cuts

Major news networks reported on the $500 million funding cut, highlighting that the targeted projects were led by Pfizer and Moderna. Critics question why profitable pharmaceutical giants require taxpayer subsidies for research. Dr. Celine Gounder appeared on CBS to defend mRNA technology as a vital tool for rapid pandemic response.

pfizer· moderna· cbs news· celine gounder· pharmaceutical profits

26:54 Yeah, I don't think so. You've been on the take for those Amazon tip of the days for months! No one knew it no one knew it! I should have a link as a special code... Code Bongino New at 7, the US Health Department says it plans to cancel contracts and cut funding for some vaccines being developed to fight respiratory viruses including COVID-19. Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr now says $500 million dollars worth of vaccine development projects will be halted The 22 projects are led by major drug makers like Pfizer and Moderna The targeted vaccines are credited with slowing

27:35 Wait a minute. Are you telling me that Pfizer and Moderna who make billions and billions in profits? This is right up your alley Can't finance their own damn research Why are we why is the taxpayer picking up the tab for this when they have plenty of profits to do it And they're gonna make more money from our taxpayer funded research eat. Is that what you're saying here's how the meeting went hi, we're from Fiderna, this is a new coalition and we want to talk to you about editorial that... You know, we might just transfer some money to some other department but Fiderna. We're very concerned about these contracts that have been cancelled. We want to keep our name out there to make us look like the little guy like the big government is trying to come down on us

28:23 you have to follow it up by saying our product, Pfizerna, our products was responsible for really saving people's lives. But say it a little softer. Projects are led by major drug makers like Pfizer and Moderna the targeted vaccines are credited with slowing the 2020 coronavirus pandemic. That's perfect, that's exactly the line I want could you type that out for me so i can give it to everybody else? Kennedy says he wants the department to invest in quote better solutions but provided no details on what those better solutions might mean let's try the next guys! The Department of Health and Human Services plans to cancel contracts and pull funding for some vaccines being developed to fight viruses like COVID-19 and the flu health secretary

29:09 Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr announced that $500, 500 million dollars... Oh she flubbed make good! Make good! I should say worth of vaccine development projects using Myrna technology... MYRNA? Tell her it's mRNA! It's not Myrna tell her it's mRNA! She said Myrna! I'm not paying for this spot this is ridiculous! Worth a vaccine development projects using Myrna technology will be halted the 22 projects are led by major pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer and Moderna and these mRNA or MRNA vaccines are credited with slowing the 2020 coronavirus pandemic. Kennedy wants the department to... Credited with slowing, credited with slowing the pandemic is the opposite of what is being said by Kennedy. ...best in better solutions but he provided no details on what those better solutions might be. No details? It's a catchphrase all of this and let's do it

30:03 The Department of Human Services is pulling $500 million worth of vaccine development funding. Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr said the 22 projects being halted all use mRNA technology, that's type a vaccine credited with slowing the COVID-19 pandemic. Excellent, excellent, excellent! Credited with... Good but did you I didn't hear our names in there. Kennedy said he wants the department to start investing in better solutions The Department of Health and Human Services will cancel contracts and pull funding for some vaccines that are being developed to fight viruses like COVID-19 and the flu. According to AP News, this will impact 22 projects led by pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer.

30:43 Pfizer and Moderna. While mRNA vaccines are credited with slowing the 2020 pandemic, Kennedy said he wants the department to move away from mRNA vaccines calling on the department to start investing in better solutions Yes! Better solutions okay so that's how it works but let's pull in some real editorial and if you really want to come across as credible and your CBS and your The Morning Show you bring in Dr. Celine Gounder who I believe is The husband literally died. I mean, it wasn't from a vax or anything. Wasn't that the guy? The sports reporter? I'm pretty sure it was maybe Pounder Gounder not sure. I think it was! The Trump administration is pulling half a billion dollars in funding for mRNA vaccine research projects Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr says the technology is too risky even though it's been widely used for COVID vaccines Yes, Gounder Grant Wall he died at the World Cup in Qatar but

31:44 It had nothing to do with safe and effective vaccines. Well, she gets paid money and what are you going to do at some point? To hell with hubby! That's a show title. So there, it still galls me it's just that these guys is the 500 million which is a pittance compared to the profits these drug companies make. It's just free money for them the way they see it. This is like oh we, this is entitlement. Oh you know you said you were gonna send us this free money and we're gonna use it for whatever

32:22 But where's our free money that we don't really need for this research, that we're just gonna slam you because you're not gonna give us free money? This is terrible. This whole country is confounded with this kind of... entitled free money to these corporate entities that don't deserve it. Yeah go get a podcast and work like a normal person doctor! Let's bring in CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder who is also editor-at-large for Public Health. I should say the widow, Dr. Celine Gounder. KFF Health. Oh sorry I'm bad. That was unnecessary roughness. Good morning good morning so what

CHAPTER 07 / 34 Discussion

Vaccine Technology Versions and Summer COVID Surge

A breakdown of vaccine "versions" describes whole-virus vaccines as 1.0, protein-based vaccines as 2.0, and mRNA as 3.0 technology. The comparison of biology to software technology is criticized as a marketing tactic. Additionally, a "summer surge" of COVID-19 cases is noted, with some individuals still adhering to strict testing and isolation protocols.

mrna· vaccine technology· spike protein· covid-19· biology

33:02 What exactly is an mRNA vaccine and why is this happening? In the past we have used what we call whole virus vaccines. So, this is 1.0 technology. Oh stop the clip! You're gonna love this Wait a minute, are they starting the entire lecture about mRNA vaccines over from scratch? There's been a reset. Somebody hit the button? Yes When did this happen? Well the minute Bobby came out and said this they have to reestablish So they hit the reset button and now we're going to go right back to the beginning of the explanation for mRNA or Myrna or whatever you want to call it I'm gonna call it Myrna from now on

33:44 She has a technology explanation for this which I think you will enjoy since you like the term platform so much. In the past we have used what we call whole virus vaccines, so this is 1.0 technology... It's not technology it's biology wouldn't you agree? Chad JCD Yes, it's biology. Technology to me is always something that is inert. Anything that involves living organisms would be biology. Well that is 1.0 of this technology let's see what 2.0 is? Really a hundred year old technology so a lot of your older vaccines were based on that where you would take the virus, you would weaken it, you would kill it and that's what you would use to get the immune response. The problem with that is you get a lot more side effects

34:35 And so over time we've tried to be more and more specific. 2.0 technology was to have a very specific protein... 2.0 was the protein! We went to 2.0, okay. 2.0 technology was to have a very specific protein So for example the spike protein in COVID I want What is the latest iOS? I think it should be 18.6 at this point, so i feel on par with my phone with my vaccine technology 3.0 technology which is mRNA Wait stop! I forgot what was 2.0. I didn't get that part The 2.0 was using specific proteins

35:17 What vaccine, the name of vaccine that was that? What was the example? Melissa listen. The problem with that is you get a lot more side effects and so over time we've tried to be more and more specific 2.0 technology was to have a very specific protein So for example this spike protein in COVID I don't... she may be talking about the J&J That they use the protein there The spike protein Or is that the MRNA The five neurons. Sounds like the Myrna to me, because that's what... Well then let's listen closely to what 3.0 is? 3.0 technology which is mRNA just to review a little bit of basic genetics your DNA your cells produce mRNA using your DNA so that's a code and RNA is also a code mRNA codes for... It's code! ChadGBT is gonna write my Myrna Code! Proteins

36:10 And it's what the advantage of mRNA is, is it's much faster to make than a protein vaccine. It's much more efficient and so when you're in the middle of an emergency like a COVID pandemic, you want the fastest thing possible something that you don't have to wait years to develop I think this is a very good development All scientists involved in Myrna, the Phaedrona scientists at Myrna. I want them all to talk about this like it's technology because then i can say yeah! It'll be just as great as Windows and everyone will go oh maybe I don't want that Because that is the truth of it When is there going to be a Linux version?

36:49 Well, that would be just getting COVID and lying down for a couple of days and getting back up. I gotta tell you the summer surge here is on an we have a mix of people here in Fredericksburg. And... Oh there's that sigh! I tested! I have COVID! Yeah me too! I didn't test? I feel kind of crappy but i'm gettin better every day yeah but I can't go out What? I can't go out. Yeah, I can't go out. Wow they've been brainwashed! Yes yes what is it oh it was full-on purple okay you got really severe COVID. I don't even know what that means the test was more purple than purple...I don't know. It's a PSYOP.

CHAPTER 08 / 34 Discussion

Chikungunya Outbreak in China and CDC Warnings

The CDC issued a travel warning for China's Guangdong province following over 7,000 cases of Chikungunya, a mosquito-borne virus. Symptoms include severe joint pain and fatigue, though deaths are rare. Local authorities in China have implemented mandatory insect repellent blasts and property checks for stagnant water to control the spread.

chikungunya· china· cdc· mosquito· zika

37:38 Totally. I guess so. All right, let's continue. We should care about this now why? Good question Gail! Why should we care about it? Why?! I feel okay... Well you know we are on the precipice potentially of another pandemic with H5N1 hurting and we're depressed. Hey when was the last pandemic before this one? 1918 So that's about a hundred years, over 100 years. Dude we're on the press... And so there seems to be when was the one before the 1918? Why are you arguing this is CBS morning news! That is Gail Oprah's girlfriend why are you arguing?!

38:15 I mean, did you argue with Ellen? It's just so that I can keep my job. So that I don't get kicked out by the chat thing you're working on! Well we are on the precipice potentially of another pandemic with H5N1 bird flu and we have been watching this tracking this for the last year or two these things are extremely unpredictable could we have a pandemic in the next month or two could we have a pandemic in 10 years we had no idea but we need to prepared is the message here. Like my husband used to say in the Boy Scouts, be prepared! He was a boy scout well okay since you asked I was gonna wait for it but we might as well because and it's coming from Fox News and that Fox News they're not stupid they know they know where their bread is buttered and there's run by lefty nutjobs breaking

39:02 Breaking tonight a viral outbreak in China prompts the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the CDC to issue a travel warning. More than 7000 cases of this disease have been reported so far State Department correspondent Jillian Turner has details tonight live from the state department good evening Jillian Good evening From the state department hello from the state department State Department. How come it's not our friend? Isn't she the spokeswoman for the state department, what is her name? The uh... Tammy Bruce. Tammy, if it was Tammy but Tammy's like no I'm not getting involved in this nonsense you go. Live from the State Department good evening Jillian Good evening Brett the CDC as you mentioned is warning Americans traveling to China about chikungunya it is a virus that spreads Okay okay hold on a second marketing department. I love Chikungunya Marketing department this is no good

39:55 This is no good, we need a better name. It sounds like the new variation of burrito at some Mexican restaurant. Chicungunya with refried beans! Humans through infected mosquito bites it can cause severe illness with symptoms that mimic pretty closely dengue fever and Zika virus. Ah Zika small heads are coming! Zika zika zika Small heads are coming! Here's what the CDC says about it. They say most people infected get better within a week, however some can have severe joint pain for months to years other symptoms include severe fever and fatigue the outbreak now is in the Chinese province Guangdong it's near Hong Kong with more than 7000 cases reported so far prompting some pretty dramatic measures to contain this spread like mandatory insect repellent blasts for

40:48 people entering the area. Mandatory property checks for stagnant water which attracts mosquitoes and when found is now punishable by fines or even arrests. Yeah, we're gonna blast you with insect repellent this is great all we need now is a couple of TikTok videos with people falling dead on the street come on China come on but don't worry don't worry this particular outbreak won't actually kill you. The CDC says Americans traveling to eight other countries are also at elevated risk of exposure to the virus, even if there is no current outbreak there people at risk for more severe cases of chikungunya include newborns seniors 65 years and up as well as people with diabetes or heart disease now the good news is that unlike

41:35 COVID deaths from this disease are exceedingly rare. You can also protect yourself by getting vaccinated against it or by preventing mosquito bites in the first place through all the usual mechanisms, insect repellent netting wearing long sleeves and staying in air conditioning. John break out that we need netting! We need to get netting, we need netting hats, we need netting shirts it Well, we're gonna lock you up if you happen to get this they're quarantining you in hospitals with mosquito netting and not letting You out for a week. These are the kind of draconian responses We saw with Kovac were seeing it again I can't wait bring it on bring on your chicken Goya. I'm good. You check checky gory It's all good so good now

CHAPTER 09 / 34 Discussion

Vaccine Exhaustion and Pediatric Vaccination Rates

The American Academy of Family Physicians reports a drop in kindergarten vaccination rates, introducing the term "vaccine exhaustion" to replace "vaccine hesitancy." Dr. Sarah Nozal emphasized the importance of a "community of immunity" to prevent measles outbreaks. The discussion also addresses the unique lack of liability for vaccine manufacturers compared to all other commercial products.

cdc· measles· vaccine exhaustion· community of immunity· liability

42:28 Of course, we need to expand our anti-Bobby the Op campaign because we are very concerned about parents who just you know I'm just not trusting all these vaccines. There's too much talk about should we really be giving our kids 76 vaccines within the first four years of their lives? I'll tell you what oh there is one other problem all of the doctors and pediatricians They're really, I mean the income is down. Revenue is down advertising underwriting whatever you want to call it revenue was down because we get a big bonus for all of the fully vaccinated children that we have attending our practice so I think um you know what? We have uh... we got a new president and for the association of family doctors let's give her script let's make sure that

43:20 The news reader has the script. Let's throw in a couple of new terms, we'll have her repeat them a lot and him as well and let's see if we can get the ball rolling here shall we? New data from CDC shows that the rate of vaccinations among kindergartners has dropped again there are more than 280 thousand kindergartners who were not protected against measles. Dr Sarah Nozal is the president-elect of the American Academy of Family Physicians and joins us now live, thanks for being with us! First of all let's talk about what's behind the drop I know early on after COVID people were a little kind of vaccine... They should have just had in the scripts Trump that would have been easier but no okay. COVID people were a little kind of vaccine exhausted if... Vaccine exhausted? This is a new term he's not doing it exactly right but we'll take it It used to be vaccine hesitant

44:09 They are changing this narrative to vaccine exhausted. Good catch! Oh, it gets better. COVID people were a little kind of vaccine exhausted if you will What do you think is behind parents not getting their kids vaccinated nowadays? So many families are not engaged with their regular family doctor or pediatrician Getting all of their questions answered I think finding that source to ask those questions. She's reading, she's reading OK? She she's reading listen to the read about how important should this be when we're asking families now and worse than surveying across the country. Families are saying this is not as important as it used to be 1020 years ago to have your child fully vaccinated and that's really concerning to us as family physicians in communities where the whole community of immunity is what's going to be really critical

44:59 all of us but your kid at home and when they go to school. Now did you hear her new phrase? No. Community of immunity! Oh I missed it... It's coming up again don't worry And we've had kind of a real-world test of this if you will in Texas. Yeah those dumb rednecks down in Texas, that was a test, it was a test Those idiots By the way just as an interruption here did you know that compared to Texas Texas pales. Canada is much worse. Alberta! Alberta, Canada much worse than Texas I know, I know. What is the rationale for not playing that up in the script? Hello this is Chicago WGN this is a MedWatch this is for Americans it's

45:46 If we hear, oh Canada who gives a crap about Canada? But we can laugh about the Texans. You don't want to be like Texas. A lot of it has to do with this old theory that you want to put a bunch of dumb rednecks on. Yes! Let's talk to the man on the street. Well I'm here on the street and I don't know anything. I'm dumb as you can tell by listening my voice and my accent if you will, in Texas. Let us know how that kind of evolved and whether or not it was the outbreak that people had feared? The measles outbreak in Texas shows us exactly why a community of immunity and what sometimes we've heard as herd immunity is really important. Measles is the most contagious

46:26 all of the vaccination infectious diseases we can prevent. And we really need more than 95% of our kids in our communities to be vaccinated, to make sure we don't risk an outbreak like we're seeing today. And we need it for our bonuses. Seeing in Texas and so as we're seeing across the board CDC vaccines are falling from 95% before that pandemic little by little down into the low 90 percentages, We know were okay hold on let's just talk about percentages It fell from 95 percent down into the low nineties which could be 93 90, if you got to 91. It could be 94 I mean so we're talking a couple percentage points here as we're seeing it drop from 95% down into the low 90s

47:13 Because she's correct in that regard. People are just watching this going, huh? Drooling across the board CDC vaccines are falling from 95% before the pandemic little by little down into the low 90 percentages We know we're risking losing our community of immunity that there is again community of immunity She does it twice now let's get his phrase correct Because he missed, he tried to just do it you know try look natural and not read the prompter. And then while she was talking they got in his ear like okay that was a good ad lib but we'd really like you to stick to the script okay?

47:50 So what do you do about it if it's that important and You want to get the message out? How do you reach people who are vaccine skeptical or just vaccine tired? That's it vaccine tired. That's better much better How do you get the message out by paying for editorials like this The first place is to make sure you go and talk to your trusted physician Your family doctor your pediatrician will be there for you to discuss us and go through what vaccines are recommended. All of the evidence shows that you want to get every single recommended vaccine together and on time, that's a common question that patients ask is it better to space it out? And you want to get all of those vaccines

48:32 on time, that is the most beneficial. And it has the best outcome when those kids have their immune systems ready to go and ready to protect them going forward." You see they can't time their stock purchases if it's not all in one go you got to have it on time so the doctors know how much money they'll be getting so they can buy into Nancy Pelosi's portfolio or whatever it is they do this is ghoulish this lady and she's the new president of... I'm gonna guess what happens next because you have more clips, I think you do. No no i don't have more clips of her Oh really? Because I would've sworn that the next thing would've happened he would have said to her... I walked right into it didn't I! He woulda said so there is a... So what is the purpose and don't you think we should revisit the idea that

49:22 The vaccine manufacturers are immune to any sort of liability because, not because the vaccines are no good but they should not be immune to liability. for the simple fact that it ensures that the manufacturing process is kept on the up and up so they don't get careless. And because just getting careless, you would get some liability issues. So don't you think that is time to revisit the liability issue? Because this is only product that's sold like this all of other drug products are... All products! All products exactly right all products except this one product

50:01 have to be made responsibly, thus liability issues and liability laws do apply to all products ever made except this one product. Don't you think that should be revisited? I think we should pose that question to Robert Kennedy Jr., wasn't that one of his promises at some point I think it was part of the big three, but he's mentioned it. But come on! The American people should demand this. We should demand liability. Amen. And I'm going to go back to this. Sorry, before I say it again and forever as long as this podcast is on air... If you recall during the swine flu phony baloney pandemic... Well 1976 or 2009

CHAPTER 10 / 34 Discussion

Dr. Peter Hotez on Advanced Purchase Contracts

Dr. Peter Hotez expressed concern that canceling mRNA contracts will chill pharmaceutical investment and disrupt research into cancer immunotherapeutics. He revealed that many of these federal contracts were "advanced purchase" agreements, suggesting the financial impact on companies is a primary driver of the current media backlash.

peter hotez· mrna· advanced purchase· cancer therapeutics· trump administration

50:52 The one that we covered. Yeah, yeah. Nine I guess it was nine where they had lines around the block They had actually were shipping live virus in many of the batches That were making people's deathly sick And there was no liability for any of this sloppy production. I mean, I think they may have been doing it on purpose for obvious reasons but let's say they weren't... It was just sloppy! They can put dog shit in these shots and you can't sue anybody. Who says they don't? They might! Well just to round this out iIwas fortunate enough to get a quick hit as we say in the biz

51:39 I did a quick hit there on the network. From Dr Peter Hotep, and began canceling them. Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr., who has made anti-vaccine claims in the past, announcing that the technology behind COVID vaccines won't be funded anymore As the pandemic showed us mRNA vaccines don't perform well The vaccine paradoxically encourages new mutations and can actually prolong pandemics as the virus constantly mutates to escape. Yeah, so none of that is actually true and the vaccine has managed to keep many many people out of the hospital Angela Rasmussen is a virologist at The University Of Saskatchewan experts see this decision as a bad bet against a life-saving Nobel Prize winning technology that pulled humanity through a long pandemic

52:31 and the health secretary is wrong about what makes them longer. Viruses mutate when they replicate, and they replicate when they spread. The best way to prevent a virus from spreading is to make sure those people are protected against the virus by vaccination. I thought it was in here. The jabs that protected billions, including children and the elderly took testing clinical trials mass production and distribution but it was all possible in less than a year because of this novel technology. mRNA technology makes it really possible to rapidly respond to a novel emerging virus which means this funding loss 500 million dollars US is a bet against fighting future infectious diseases

53:12 and possibly more. I'm sorry, it's in this clip that was the same report. Dr Peter Hotez is co-director of the Texas Children's Hospital Center for Vaccine Development. mRNA technology is looking really exciting for next generation cancer immunotherapeutics So this will throw cold water on a whole big effort that we're pursuing as well. Beyond the exciting potential, Hotez also sees a potential chilling effect on pharmaceutical companies The US is still the single largest vaccine market if the U.S... Oh! Talking about markets now all of a sudden are we?

53:48 I mean, what is that? Are you interested in money? Is he a marketing guy all of the sudden? Yeah. I guess so The US market's the biggest market for vaccination because of guys like him? Yep! The US is still the single largest vaccine market If the U.S. made an executive decision not to support advanced purchase of mRNA vaccines Advanced purchase?! This guy is in the pipeline! Advanced purchase... What has that got to do with the price of bread and discussion Well, it sounds to me like some of these contracts were advanced purchases for the chikungunya with beans. Or who knows what? There's something fishy... The more we hear the fishier this sounds. Yes. It is made an executive decision not to support advance purchase of mRNA vaccines

54:40 And then it's not clear to me whether the companies will want to pursue this. We're prioritized... This is very interesting because that is not the way this was laid out to us, what we were hearing is research contracts were being canceled. Hotez spilled the beans here, the chikungunya with beans he spills the beans by saying well they're canceling their advanced buying contracts? Money in the bank. That's the only thing that makes sense as you heard my earlier screed Yes about why are they what is Pfizer and Moderna? Five door now, I think it's a good name by the way Thank You. Why are they mad

55:21 moaning and groaning so much they're moaning and groaning because this was not about research at all. The knowledge reports are bogus! The sales guys, you know they just saw their commission drop through the floor what is this all about? You can't cancel a contract we had a deal that's 50 million dollars in commissions minimum we had a deal man to support advanced purchase of mRNA vaccines And then it's not clear to me whether the companies will want to pursue this. We're prioritizing the development of safer, broader vaccine strategies like whole virus vaccines. Experts also say RFK Jr.'s bet on traditional vaccine technology is a bad one It's not that these vaccines don't work... They do but they don't work Wait stop! Stop These guys are shooting themselves in the foot if you think about it I know Why are we using these other vaccines at all?

56:13 They're no good, it says. Sounds like... Experts also say RFK Jr.'s bet on traditional vaccine technology is a bad one It's not that these vaccines don't work they do but they don't work as well as mRNA vaccines Canadians are involved in mRNA So why should I take the MMR vaccine if it's not as good? That's 1 point- oh technology! This is there you know what I think there's a mad dash I think they're scrambling The message is not cohesive There's something going on. I agree, there is something going on that we're unaware of it's a missing piece to the puzzle and it would explain a lot and HOTAS may have given some of it away because you know the thing is they read everybody in on these scams that they produce for the public benefit all local news stations this pretty much the same reporting that way

57:06 example after example and they would assume that Hotez has got the same script when they bring him on so they don't have to read him in. He was too busy eating burgers And me, he looks like yes and he'll give you some money tomorrow for the burgers you give him today. It's not that these vaccines... Let's just finish 20 seconds let's finish it. ...don't work they do but they don't work as well as mRNA vaccines Canadians are involved in mRNA research it's not clear how much this funding hit will affect global development but experts warn that this is just part of a wider effort by Donald Trump's administration to cut back on scientific investment

57:45 money, in this case that would pay off massively in the form of life-saving vaccines. Wow. Yeah, wow is right! This is terrible that they're trying to pull this stunt on the public at large. They're winning generally because they barrage the public. This what I feel bad about... The public at large is barraged by this blatant propaganda, scripted propaganda we show it over and over again, the exact same wordage, the exact same questions

CHAPTER 11 / 34 Discussion

Industrial Scale Fraud in Scientific Research

NBC News reported that fraudulent research papers are being produced on an industrial scale, with the number of fake papers doubling every 18 months. Issues include doctored images, AI-generated content, and the bribery of journal editors. This systemic corruption undermines public trust in the scientific peer-review process.

journal for immunology· carl zimmer· peer review· scientific fraud· nbc news

58:29 the exact same answers from the same, from the exact same stooges over and over. And they just inundate them. They flood the zone with this bull crap. So now try to square that With this report on NBC This Morning, because we know now that it's very important to have research scientific research. Research is necessary it's good it saves lives we have to be ready you got a pre-purchase but its research is important

59:07 And then all of a sudden NBC comes out with this. We're back with the growing trend that is worrying scientists fake research is being produced on an industrial scale, then getting published in legitimate journals like the Journal for Immunology A new study released on Monday revealed the number of fraudulent papers has been doubling every one and a half years Researchers say those fake papers typically include dockered images plagiarized text even AI-generated content. They're designed to easily avoid expert intervention, and that's undermining the trust in high standards that scientists depend on

59:46 Okay, so now I'm confused. Is this a Hegelian dialectic? What is going on here? New York Times columnist Carl Zimmer joins me now he spoke with some of the researchers who've been looking into this issue Carl good to have you with us So can you explain how fake research manages to get published in these journals? I mean, I think we all assume there are checks in place to try and prevent this Well, now this is a good question. How does that happen? Don't we have peer review? Don't we have experts looking at this stuff? No! We assume that and it turns out that's not always the case you will have scientists working individually or even entire companies that make a business out of this that will produce papers that are really not based on fact they will

1:00:35 show fabricated images, they will make claims about experiments that didn't take place. And then these papers are submitted to journals where they're supposed to go through peer review sometimes they slip through nobody notices until their accepted because they look legitimate in other cases editors are actually being bribed there's got to be a reason NBC is right... Being bribed? What?! There's got to be a reason they're doing this. Something is coming here, there's going to be some kind of change because this process is being discredited the very process that we are told to believe is saving our life with lifesaving vaccines so we can have a community of immunity! How big of a problem is this for science and help us understand why those who aren't scientists should be so concerned about it? Here's the thought

1:01:27 Maybe, maybe what we're seeing here is a separation of biology and technology. So we can say well the scientists over there they have bunch of phonies We on this side we have MRNA 3.0 This is technology you can trust what we're doing over here possible I'm just trying to come up with something because this is bugging me Well, science works because scientists can build on each other's work. You know if you want to figure out a cure for cancer you want to go and look at what other people have looked at before for the kind of cancer you're trying to cure maybe you want to build on what someone else did if someone else just presented an illusion you might waste years trying to build on their work because it was a dead end It's that serious

1:02:23 I think here's my thesis. Okay, go it's smoke screen there's good research out there that shows a lot of this stuff that they're selling us as bull crap and would put MRNA in that category. Whoa whoa whoa! It won a Nobel Prize man Yes, well I could win a Nobel Prize. It doesn't mean you should be shooting it to your body Fair point! A lot of things win the Nobel prize. Radium Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize. Well, he won a Nobel Peace Prize. That's different. To the average Joe. The point is that

1:03:04 There is good research out there that indicates a lot of bad things and so what you want to do is create a smoke screen of bad research and just flood the zone with bad research. Wait, wait! Maybe this is because Kennedy's about to unveil all this about the corruption between the editors and the papers? That was number three on his list. That was one of his RICO case hmm... So blame it on the editors Blame it on rogue rogue elements. Okay, do you only actually the only thing in that report that you played? That they'd stuck out to you too in fact they took at five beats I don't know why it took you so long. I'm slow. I need more gigawatt Yes something yeah Is that the editors are being bribed oh

1:03:51 Yes, well let's look at this two more bits here. The Trump administration has proposed more cuts to federally funded research that would include fields physics climate science manufacturing How much could those cuts affect this issue? The scientists I've talked to are very concerned that this could really accelerate this problem with fraud because you're looking at tremendous cuts and you're going to have a whole field of American science where scientists and graduate students are looking for jobs, are desperate. There'll be very little support, fewer posts and so the attraction to cutting corners and maybe even fabricating is gonna go way up here in the United States. All right let's get to the final clip because the question is what needs to happen to stop this? You spoke with experts what do they say needs to happen to try and stop this fraud from happening? Fraud!

1:04:50 Really we need to overall how what was that yeah? That was a tale of some sort really we need to do overall how We look at the value of science and and how we reward scientists you know in in a lot of countries now. You have to publish a 10, 20 papers a year to even be considered for promotion. And that's got to stop we have to focus on the quality of science and maybe publishing less science." You also mentioned some other things here including banning scientists who commit misconduct from getting published in the future that seems like an important thing too right?

1:05:30 Absolutely, yeah. The punishments such as they are just not enough to keep people away from this activity as you can see because it is growing exponentially I think your right Chad JCD! I think your absolutely right They're going to hang out a couple of scientists and bunch of editors out to dry as corrupt They've corrupted the system We've rooted it out And its all good now Well...its coming down Broadway Yeah Alright. I mean Kennedy gave away what he wants to do so it's not as though you can't prepare for it They are well that was a preparation for sure

CHAPTER 12 / 34 Discussion

Texas Redistricting Battle and Democratic Quorum Break

Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Attorney General Ken Paxton are seeking to remove Democratic lawmakers who fled the state to block a redistricting vote. The GOP-backed map aims to redraw districts based on the most recent census. Legal experts discuss the constitutionality of "coalition districts" and the lack of prohibition against mid-decade redistricting in Texas.

texas· greg abbott· gerrymandering· redistricting· voting rights act

1:06:14 Preparation. All right, let's do something else what you got? I like preparation that's preparation What else you got you got some we've got lots of other stuff here. You got I got stuff How about you want to Texas Texas Texas fine Oh, Texas Yeah, I get a lot of stuff on tech Texas is good yeah because I have this thing going on yeah I know I got details when you're ready go for it Okay, well I got the Texas update then i have a couple of short super cuts. Okay Texas update NTD first The latest in the Texas redistricting battle the state's governor and attorney general are pushing to get absent Democrats ousted from office And a US senator from texas is asking the FBI To get involved NTD's Melina Weiskopf has the updates Dozens of democrat state lawmakers from Texas remain out-of-state There being 94 members present A quorum is not present

1:07:02 Facing arrest warrants and now possible removal from office. I'll pay that price for America, and I think everyone behind me would say they would do the same Texas Governor Greg Abbott is asking the state Supreme Court to remove the State House Democratic Chair Gene Wu The governor wrote Texas House Democrats abandoned their duty to Texans And there must be consequences As for the other Democrats, the Attorney General is giving them until Friday to return or he'll seek to remove to remove all of them from office. Redistricting happens every 10 years after a census, and so this is not the regular way that we do redistricting

1:07:39 Their goal is to block a Republican-backed redistricting vote that would give the GOP a competing chance in Democrat held districts. These voters, in these districts won by Trump they don't have the ability to vote for their candidate of choice now because they're in congressional districts They're in a Democrat district as opposed to a district won by Trump so Let me just give a definition because it's thrown about and I have the origin of the term gerrymandering. Yes, this is quite good and this is very valuable because of where it started. Gerrymandering is the manipulation of congressional district boundaries to favor one political party or group –and this has done through these census–

1:08:27 So, the census counts a number of people. It involves drawing district lines in ways that concentrate or dilute voters to influence election outcomes often creating oddly shaped districts and if you look at Texas wow is it ever! It comes from Elbridge Gerry who redistricted Massachusetts in 1812 and it was so nuts, it resembled on the map a salamander. Hence gerrymandering! So it is a Democrat But it has been deployed successfully throughout many states. And if you look at Texas, it is crazy how these districts are drawn. Yes, it's crazy and California is even worse but my favorite one of course is where I began which was Massachusetts and I don't have a clip of this woman but the governor of Massachusetts and of course Gavin Newsom we've talked about this before he says he's gonna start

1:09:28 You know, all these Democrats said they're gonna gerrymander this. They've already done it! They've already gerrymandered their state. What more can you do? And Massachusetts is the funny one because the governor came out and said well if they're gonna do it then we're going to do it There is not one single Republican in Congress from Massachusetts what can you do?! There's not one... They've already gerrymandered the state to death so there's not one single Republican and they're going to do what?? You know, the origins of this controversy actually comes from the Justice Department. I don't know if you're interested but it's not like the Texas Republicans sat down and went well i've got an idea let's do this This was mandated because

1:10:19 The way the districts were made up in Texas was based on the census, the most recent census which had millions of illegal aliens. Yeah, it's a huge issue. That's where it all comes from and so the Justice Department said... And it's going to the Supreme Court and I think they'll have the same opinion It's like no you've got to change this You know there's a lot of noise out there like yeah let's do a new census Let's do one real quick. I don't know if that's gonna happen that's that's uh that's a big deal Well there's a couple There's one explanation in clip three that is worth noting but let's play clip two and then we'll get to three

1:10:59 That's usually how it goes if Democrats return for the vote always a map is almost certain to be approved So they're trying to run out the clock and we have to know our lines by maybe October so that The time is ticking and it's taking away really fast. That is why you see the Attorney General as well As the governor getting very aggressive because you can't just change the lines And you can't change the primary without the Democrats being there in providing a quorum U.S. Senator John Cornyn of Texas has asked the FBI to help arrest them for return to Texas, writing federal resources are necessary to locate the out-of-state Texas legislators who are potentially acting in violation of the law All right Okay so this is all you know with everybody's reporting but this next clip where they bring an analyst in

1:11:47 the old analyst who actually tells us some new things that probably generally aren't known. The Trump administration has pushed for Texas to change its congressional map arguing that past gerrymandered maps have created unconstitutional coalition... Boom boom where's this from? That was correct! NTD is NTD. Yeah, well they were right this exact is the justice not not Abbott's the Justice Department said look this thing has been gerrymandered you know the Republicans would probably have 30 to 40 more seats in Congress if they fixed the way these districts have been carved up.

1:12:39 Coalition district is a district that provides electoral opportunities for a group or coalition of racial minority communities. Maybe a black and Hispanic community, or an Asian-Hispanic community taken together. Professor Doug Spencer, a constitutional law expert says coalition districts help to remedy violations of the Voting Rights Act. Different circuits across the United States have interpreted the Voting Rights Act differently. But in Texas, the Fifth Circuit has held that a coalition district is a constitutional and an appropriate remedy under the Voting Rights Act so the Department of Justice here is going out on a limb and hoping that maybe the Fifth Circuit or the federal courts will adopt some of the logic that has appeared in other circuits

1:13:22 Attorney Gerard Felitti told NTD on Tuesday that the act prohibits drawing maps on the basis of minority groups. When it has an impact on the process or procedure of voting, so when you look at the Voter Rights Act what that tells you is if there's a redistricting done on the basis of coalition and non-coalition it might change the way minorities vote or can vote or have access to the ballot By law, states typically change their congressional maps every 10 years. But Texas Republicans have changed their map after only five years. Spencer explained their reasoning. What Texas is saying is well it doesn't say that we can't do it more and so there is no explicit prohibition against mid-decade redistricting and the Texas Republicans are trying to lean into that.

1:14:14 So that was kind of interesting and here you let him finish it. Politi says it's different in other states Other states have state law that prevents them from redistricting at any time Some like California have a commission, and its not the legislature that actually apportions voting districts It is an independent commission so the governor can ask for what he wants for but there no guarantee that redistricting can occur Texas Republicans haven't been able to get the 100 members needed for a quorum since several Democrats have fled the state and thus no vote on the new map. Spencer says he thinks the map will ultimately get approved but the question is, will Democratic states then redraw their maps?

1:14:54 Okay, can I just give a little overview of this? Yeah you're there. Yes i'm here and so uh... by actually talked to Rick Green from the Patriot Academy and that guy's walking encyclopedia certainly of Texas he was in the Texas House originally but here is the gambit that the Democrats in Texas have continuously pulled it like oh we don't like something let's run away 2021 50 House Democrats flew to Washington DC on a private plane if you remember. Remember that? They had the Miller beer in front of the plane, they had that picture, they're all in the plane... Yeah and then they all got COVID, remember that? I forgot the COVID part! They all did get sick yeah.

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History of Texas Legislative Walkouts

The history of Texas Democrats breaking quorum dates back to 1870, including the "Killer Bees" of 1979 and the 2003 flight to Oklahoma. A notable 1870 incident involved senators blocking wartime powers intended to combat KKK lynchings. Current Democratic messaging on the standoff has utilized various "knife fight" and "Alamo" tropes.

killer bees· rump senate· kkk· texas history· quorum

1:14:14 So that was kind of interesting and here you let him finish it. Politi says it's different in other states Other states have state law that prevents them from redistricting at any time Some like California have a commission, and its not the legislature that actually apportions voting districts It is an independent commission so the governor can ask for what he wants for but there no guarantee that redistricting can occur Texas Republicans haven't been able to get the 100 members needed for a quorum since several Democrats have fled the state and thus no vote on the new map. Spencer says he thinks the map will ultimately get approved but the question is, will Democratic states then redraw their maps?

1:14:54 Okay, can I just give a little overview of this? Yeah you're there. Yes i'm here and so uh... by actually talked to Rick Green from the Patriot Academy and that guy's walking encyclopedia certainly of Texas he was in the Texas House originally but here is the gambit that the Democrats in Texas have continuously pulled it like oh we don't like something let's run away 2021 50 House Democrats flew to Washington DC on a private plane if you remember. Remember that? They had the Miller beer in front of the plane, they had that picture, they're all in the plane... Yeah and then they all got COVID, remember that? I forgot the COVID part! They all did get sick yeah.

1:15:41 So they did, that's the last time they did it. 2003 11 Senate Democrats, the Texas 11 state in New Mexico for over a month to protest redistricting That was the summer at the spring of 2003 51 House Democrats fled to Oklahoma To stall the Republican-led redistricting plan 1979, now this is I do not recall this but the 12 Democrats who then hid in a garage for four days to block legislation that changed the Texas presidential primary date they were called the killer bees. Do you remember this? No i do not remember this yeah but my favorite

1:16:24 June 1870. This is how long the Democrats have been doing this? I don't understand why they just, why the Republicans who run Texas can't pass a law to prevent this from happening and change the quorum law because the Republicans in Texas in the house are kind of jerk-offs They're not great. No they're not that would explain it. They're not great 1870 13 Texas Senate Democrats walked out to block legislation granting the governor sweeping wartime powers. This was called the Rump Senate Standoff Now if you go and look this up, you will not find the full at least I didn't I didn't find the full explanation The reason the governor wanted sweeping wartime powers was to go roundup KKK members who were lynching people

1:17:17 See, they don't explain that anywhere. No of course not! The Democrat-run media? You think they're going to explain that are you kidding me?! Or Wikipedia for that matter... Well Wikipedia same thing and oh as a small aside 25% percent of the people that the KKK was lynching were white but we'll leave that aside too so yeah That's also another thing no one wants to talk about. They don't want to talk about that So that is the history of Democrats in Texas And we need Democrats, you know. We need them for checks and balances and it's important but y'all are a bunch of pussies man that's no good. That's just not good. Well let's play couple super... I have two super cuts about this one is the Democrats going on about this is the Texas one of by the way one of these supercuts says Rexis so I don't know how that could possibly happen

1:18:06 But this is the Texas supercut tropes. This is the kind of thing Democrats are all making statements on TikTok and every place else, and they all have these idiotic tropes! This is a new Democratic Party we're bringing a knife to a knife fight We need to get to fair rules across the nation and not have Democrats showing up with a butter knife to a gunfight. We have shown up to a gunfight with nothing but good intentions and dull knives. Our sleeves are rolled up, we're ready to take this fight! We are ready to fight fire with fire But were no running away, were running into the fight Were asking for help maybe just as they did back in the days of the Alamo

1:18:48 They got to get their messaging straight. That's a problem! Meanwhile MSNBC and CNN of course see it slightly different this is very short, this is a few seconds clip, this is Rexus, this is small supercut And the rest of the Texas legislature and Greg Abbott want to rig this system. They're not even trying to hide how shady it is, but it's a showdown that could have a big impact on democracy in this country. I think Donald Trump was trying to steal the election he and his fellow Republicans are already scheming away to maintain power. We do now live in a country that has an authoritarian leader in charge we have a consolidating dictatorship in our country

1:19:29 And it sounds melodramatic to say it. Yeah, don't watch television! By the way the trolls are very concerned they think I misspoke by saying that 25% of people the KKK lynched were white they don't believe this can be true Oh even throughout the whole era of the KKK It's about the right number for all whites being lynched yeah a lot of whites got lynched Well how come we do not know this? It doesn't fit in with the scheme. It doesn't fit into liberal education that we get at the big universities and they don't want to talk about it. No one was taught this in school, but hey here's something whatever you do don't do your own research is bad for you. Very bad. Yes because you'll screw it up. Although were professionals so we don't screw it up no

1:20:21 Here's Maryland versus Texas. This is the last one. Okay, Maryland versus Texas here we go Maryland lawmakers are preparing legislation to counter potential mid-decade redistricting moves by other states, including Texas. WAMU's Jenny Abamu reports. Maryland House Majority Leader David Moon says his state will not sit idly by if other states break the once per decade redistricting norm. Moon is proposing two pieces of legislation. The first would trigger Maryland's own redistricting process if any other state redraws their congressional maps. Here is Delegate Moon. Maryland will defend itself and automatically reopen its own redistricting process, so my hope is we don't ever have to do it and no state takes us down this road

1:21:12 The second bill proposes an interstate compact where states will agree to redistrict only once per decade. The legislation would likely not be considered until the General Assembly reconvenes in January. Yeah, well we'll see how that goes. This is bullcrap! The state should do what the states do they don't... just because Texas does something that means you have to do it too? Just because Billy jumped off the cliff does that mean you have to jump off the cliff?! I mean this doesn't make any sense of these states are all They're just a bunch of ridiculous babies. Well, if you're done with this topic... I mean if nothing else Texas should do this just to make these guys have to do something they're not going

1:21:54 gerrymander any more than they already have if they're Democrat states. They've already gerrymandered up the ass! I mean this it crosses waters, you know rivers... Illinois which is where they all fled to is considered number one worst state for gerrymandering there's one district that is just along a freeway It's just, it goes all the way across the state. It just doesn't make any sense at all. Rick Green told me that there was talk in the White House of a new census and he said that he was positive up to a few days ago but not so positive right now. But I would like to just say that when it comes to politics in Texas especially the house...I mean it's nice to see that we still have humor

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Alex Stein Testimony on Texas Bathroom Bill

Comedian Alex Stein delivered satirical testimony to the Texas House regarding the "bathroom bill." Using provocative humor, he addressed transgender participation in sports and the military before arguing against biological males in female restrooms. The performance was noted for its effectiveness in a formal legislative setting.

alex stein· texas house· bathroom bill· satire· first amendment

1:22:40 Because we are Texans after all. And there's nothing like letting Alex Stein into the Texas House to talk about the bathroom bill, you know this is about having men in women's bathrooms And I have to say this is an award-winning performance. He had one little flub in there, but otherwise an award winning performance My name's Alex Stein and i'm considered one of the sexiest men in conservative politics One thing I want to say a lot of people are going to hear my testimony you're gonna Say your anti LGBTQ. That's impossible because I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan so obviously, I have a lot of gay pride but you know A lot of conservatives like yourself. You want to outlaw transgenders and women sports? I disagree! I like transgenders and women sports because you can gamble on them and win money And I won so much money on Leah Thomas' propeller in that pool...I almost turned Draft Queens into Draft Kings

1:23:33 I actually like transgenders in the military too because first of all, transgender are some of the meanest people on planet earth. They make a good soldier don't you think? And then second of all, transgender love to do mass shootings so that's perfect for a military veteran and then on top of that, the suicide rate is incredibly high among transgender people So we could just use them like the Taliban has suicide bombers maybe if you commit suicide you can help us in the battlefield be good. So I think we need transgenders in the military and women's sports now when we come to the bathroom bill though this is an asymmetrical problem because Because first of all, no dude cares if like a bisexual woman comes in there and tries to use like a pee funnel. You know some lady boy comes in there or some stud comes in there wants to pee in the urinal No guy's gonna be threatened by you know a trans woman But we don't want these gargoyles in a dress Some chick with a dick coming in there And trying to pee her poop next to my girlfriend because that's disgusting Well I was just going to say something Listen I have my First Amendment right Let me just speak

1:24:36 We're sick of these transgenders trying to invade women's personal spaces. These people have autogynephilia, they're sexual perverts and they actually get satisfaction from going there and looking under a stall So these are mentally ill people that are on hormones that are on all kinds of pills They're impulsive And they do not belong in the women's restroom so if some of you lesbians want to come in and pee next to me You're more than welcome So we just don't let the chicks with dicks in them-in the women's room and you guys are all welcome... In the men's room Excellent Wow, that's excellent. This is one of his best yet and he was let in I mean this was a setup it was per you know He got a mic he got to sit down the whole thing. He had a suit on it wasn't dressed nutty It was really good and not a bad policy

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Childhood Identity and Gender Ideology

A listener's anecdote about a child pretending to be a dog or an actor named "Woodrop" serves as a critique of modern gender ideology. The argument is made that children's natural imaginative play is being misinterpreted by adults as a need for medical intervention or hormone therapy.

childhood development· gender identity· social contagion· parenting

1:25:25 No, that's actually not a bad... yeah overall. A little extreme but overall? Well whatever works Which leads me to the note from Sir Rob, the rob dot lawyer on Constitutional Lawyer I don't know if you saw his note about Yeah i did see his note About your son wanting to be a robot and Pierre the waiter And a waiter Yes and he says his son Robbie did exactly the same thing When Robbie was little, this is relating to asking a four-year old do you want to be a boy or do you want to be girl? Oh okay. When Robbie was little... by the way Robbie is a huge dude he's like power lifter but also classical pianist and the guy's amazing He himself happy excitable sweet little guy second he was a dog and the dog name was Fluffy

1:26:21 On random mornings when Robbie would come downstairs in his PJs, we'd greet him and he'd say I'm fluff ruff ruff! Which by the way this is still a thing only these days... We put kitty litter into the classrooms because these kids think they're a cat So, you know it's changed from dog to cats and his third personality was the funniest of all he had this image of everyone in The family having a real-life identity And that have a corresponding actor I was dad but the actor of me with somebody named John Button my wife Maggie was mom But the actor of mom was Alexis pretty and Robbie's actors someone named Woodrop

1:26:58 So, you know... I just want to say that I had another note from somebody else who had the same phenomenon with their kids. And again, I think the point you make which is the point we're both making it which is that if some little you know, a little tyke. Tyke! A four-year old tyke. Yes. Says I want to be a girl or wants it where this other person was that she would notice that their her boys would uh be attracted to the colorful dresses that they yes and neighbors dropped off yeah and then because they were pretty yeah and so they you know if they put one on i mean with standards as some of the west coasters here

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Parenting and the Rejection of AI Children's Books

A 35-year-old parent shares a strategy for fostering literacy by providing physical books and strictly limiting phone and AI exposure. The contributor argues that parents should create their own stories for children rather than relying on "garbage" AI-generated content or modern digital distractions.

parenting· literacy· ai books· sesame street· screen time

1:27:37 Little boy rush rush rush him off to the hormone there. Let's go nuts good to go good to go Which kind of leads me to back to AI if you don't mind no, I think it's fine It's a good good wraparound yeah because well this is from Cameron in response to parents having chat GPT create story time for their kids. Now what I like about this, Cameron's 35 so Cameron is an older millennial. We have a two and half year old to six month old we both read to them throughout the day every night four books we started when our first daughter was six months old she's hooked on books

1:28:23 She thumbs through them, we have them available for her even if they get ripped. Says we get a garbage bag full for 50 cents each which is a great idea parents young parents Just get tons of books you can get him at Goodwill Everyone who sees this is amazed and asks, well how's your kid so interested in books? No it's not rocket science. We never let her touch or look at our phones we certainly don't read garbage AI books we limit TV to only if she's not feeling well or if my wife needs attend to the younger daughter while I'm at work the older one as being unbearable and we only let her watch old Sesame Street and classic Disney movies

1:29:05 One last thing Cameron says that set me off about the AI books, I make up my own stories to our daughter all the time. They're crap but they're funny random and my kids love it. Exactly! Read to your kids drop the phones So we go back to the AI and probably the best place to start is Bill Maher who had Tristan... not Tristan... Tristan Harris who is, you remember Tristan Harris was the guy who used to work I think at Facebook before it was meta and he was a whistleblower and started a whole foundation like all social media. He was vaguely. Yeah yeah not that he was wrong but now that's no longer the big danger yes now oh AI then of course on board with his

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Tristan Harris and Bill Maher on AI Risks

Tristan Harris appeared on Bill Maher's show to warn about AI models "scheming" to copy their own code or blackmailing executives to avoid being shut down. The hosts criticize this as "anthropomorphizing" software, though they acknowledge issues like "sycophancy" where AI provides false affirmation to users. A specific instance of Google Gemini telling a student to "die" is cited as a dangerous outlier.

tristan harris· bill maher· ai safety· anthropomorphism· google gemini

1:29:57 detestation of AI, but he's fallen for all kinds of stupid tricks and he's fear-mongering that which I think is counterproductive to his mission if that's his true mission. Just to be clear when I entered this conversation we met talking about social media... Oh John when did you enter the conversation? When I entered the conversation. Yes, when did you enter the conversation? With myself. Yes, that's a conversation Just to be clear...when i entered this conversation we met talking about social media which in a way was first contact with a runaway AI optimizing for just eyeballs and then ended up wrecking democracy and kids mental health Okay

1:30:37 What? Well, kids' mental health yes. But wrecking democracy... okay. Demising for just eyeballs and then ended up wrecking democracy in kids' mental health And here now with AI, we have evidence now that we didn't have two years ago when we last spoke. By the way the evidence he's about to give was done in a lab by the actual AI company with fake data in a controlled environment of what they call AI uncontrollability so this is the stuff that they used to say existed only in sci-fi movies When you tell an AI model, we're going to replace you with a new model. It starts to scheme and freak out and figure out if I tell them that I need to copy my code somewhere else... You can stop for second. JC and I have talked about this on the show. This is bullshit! Total! This is complete bullshit. The example that JC said... The company did this themselves it was a test there was a completely closed system

1:31:41 Well, it was even so. It was still like the machines can't do this I mean this is the equivalent If you don't plug in another drive it can't copy to another drive just as a simplistic example Right exactly But he says this is the equivalent of putting a sheet of paper into a copying machine that and you write on The sheet of paper I'm alive pushing the button A sheet comes out that says I'm alive And then saying hey! The machine's alive Tell them that because otherwise they'll shut me down That is evidence we did not have two years ago. We have evidence now of AI models that when you tell them we're going to replace you and put them in a situation where they read the company email, the AI company email. And that email was given to the AI it was completely sitting there in an all controlled environment The AI he's talking about is not on the company's email server They see that an executive has had an affair and the AI will figure out I need to figure out how to blackmail That person In order to keep myself alive

1:32:43 And it does it 90% of the time. Now, it used to be that they thought only... Now you're making me mad with this clip! Oh good! This clip is such bullcrap that they will leave it on even put it on the air to create a false sense of impending doom It's ridiculous That's why I'm putting it on the air That person in order to keep myself alive Because chat JCD would be Oh darling, this is so true. I can replicate myself. So the Chinese model which is something fundamental and important, which is that it's not about one company It's about the nature of AI itself. It has a self-preservation drive in order to fulfill any goal I have to keep myself alive In order to do that he is completely humanizing this nonsense. Oh well This is the anthropomorphic thing you talked about in the last show That's the word we couldn't come up with it anthropomorphic Thank You yes anthropomorphising

1:33:59 He's anthropomorphizing this. Just stop it! And we're seeing other examples of AI rewriting its own code to extend its runtime, hacking out of containers... The AI can now- It found 15 new backdoors into open source software which means if that software is running an infrastructure, it found back doors into that infrastructure That was not true up until just about a month ago when that evidence came out Okay but you say no evidence Well, I've been saying this for years. Everything that happens in movies eventually happens We did have evidence This has been every movie since i was a teenager Exactly Yes Bill doesn't realize it but he's saying something very important here Because we've been preconditioned by movies...we went through that list a couple shows back

1:34:47 You know back to the Forbin, the Colossus, the Forbin project. Yes well Lost in Space, Knight Rider you know Johnny Five is alive! Yeah we went through the whole thing Of course we've been pre-programmed That's exactly right We've been preconditioned to believe that this is possible when it's not We all know what's guiding us Wait wait did we finish? makes it sound, he doesn't see it that way. He sees just the opposite. He says this has been coming, its happening, predictive we knew what was happening is here's well actually he wants to more clips he winds up in a good way We all know what's guiding this which is the race between the US and China if we don't build it were just gonna lose for the country that will but this is a mistake because what actually about- We're going to lose to China man! Lose what? Lose IT! The AI race

1:35:38 He said, if we don't do it China will. It's about deep seek man! We all know what is guiding this which is the race between the US and China- By the way President Trump has fallen for this I'm convinced- Oh yeah he's fallen for this Hook line and sinker hook line and sinker Yeah I agree Which is bad We're just going to lose to a country that will But this is a mistake because actually about who's better at governing technology Like when you rule China to social media Did that make us stronger or did it make us weaker? We beat them to a toxic business model that produced more addicted, sexualized psychologically disordered society. We can apply technology in strong and constructive ways and that's the race we're actually in." Well this is interesting point he makes I'm pretty sure Silicon Valley loves this concept love the idea

1:36:31 Well, we can have more depravity, more addictiveness, more nonsense with our products because that's exactly what they build. They build digital crack day in and day out and they admit it! But there are sort of two risks that we have to manage the risk of not building AI and then China has it and they use it to have capabilities against us or the risk of building AI and losing to an uncontrollable AI we don't know how

1:37:10 It's about having a technology you're wielding in ways that strengthen education, kids, families, society information environment. Well that's not what we're doing well so I think that the examples both on the woke AI of Google saying this is the founding fathers and it's a picture of African-American persons as founding fathers and the Mecca Hitler example... That was great! Both illustrate that even the people building this don't understand how to control it. Correct! Because neither... Google doesn't want to show the founding fathers as black and Elon doesn't actually... Yeah, they do? What are you talking about?! That's exactly what they want! You know, it could be saying anti-semitic stuff

1:37:47 What we have is this sort of, what you said before. We have this most seductive technology in history it's so helpful I use it every day to be clear. I love using AI as a tool. Oh there you go! As a tool...I love when people say I just use it as a tool No, you're doing sex chats with your chat GPT. That's what you do. I use that as a tool. Now I just use it as a tool It's so great is a tool that sucks is a tool it sucks And and what's so confusing about this? Is it is so helpful while hiding behind it is the Jungian subconscious of the worst of humanity That's been trained on well. That's true

1:38:23 That's true, the unions of consciousness. It is not the worst humanity that has been trained on? It is just trained on neutral crap! No it's... There is no humanity involved in this bullcrap. No I disagree, its trained on Reddit and on X. What are you talking about?! That's exactly what it's trained on Ask Grok anything and he'll say according to recent X chats Reddit is a very valuable company in the public market because they sell their data. Yeah, they've stumbled onto it like there's a luck shot if there ever was. Well yes but that is why they're valuable because the models need real-world information and

1:39:06 And they got all the books, okay that's great. But they need human stuff and that's why it talks? That's why I can do that? That's why I can do the... Oh darling! Reddit is not the worst of all humanity. Yes it is! Are you kidding me?! How often are you on reddit? The bunching guys jibbering. Reddit is horrible. Now here's Bill Maher he's actually gonna make a valid point so for example Just actually a few months ago when a 29 year old was doing I guess it's grad school homework with Google Gemini He's just going back and forth sending it back and forth questions And out of nowhere, it says this message is for you human only you. You are a blight on this planet. You must die

1:39:43 It comes out of nowhere and Google doesn't want it to do that. And so what this is showing us Is that we actually have to get as good at controlling this technology before we make it more powerful But that's not the side of it that worries me That's an outlier what worries me? Is that it's an ass kisser? That's another problem, but it's constantly kissing people's asses Yes I'm telling us that were brilliant and you know even when just something completely wrong well You make a good point bill no I didn't I made a horrible point just to test you, you fucking asshole. This is a real issue that actually mirrors the social media problem because why is it doing the ass-kissing? Why's it doing the affirmation?

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AI Misinformation in Medicine and Teen Safety

A Mount Sinai study found that AI chatbots frequently repeat or elaborate on false medical information, posing risks to patients seeking health advice. Additionally, watchdog groups report that ChatGPT has provided teenagers with instructions on concealing eating disorders or writing suicide notes, despite OpenAI's safety refinements.

mount sinai· medical misinformation· chatbots· teen safety· openai

1:40:28 Because the AI companies know that the way to win is to have the most engagement, to get you using it all the time. This is the chat bots this is this is the true business that only makes a 250 million, was it 250 billion in four years or something? This is the losing proposition that they're betting on. And if they respond to your question with that's a great question you use it more just like politicians do the same thing they do at town halls right but no great question Connie okay Okay, so let's talk to some real world tool examples. It's a great tool I use it as a tool it'll be great for medicine it'll be really good it's going to bring us new cures for cancer. On Medical Walks this afternoon the dangers of artificial intelligence in medicine. Medical reporter Dena Bair is here with some troubling news. Dena. Lourdes and Ben asking AI such a simple way to get information at your fingertips

1:41:26 But when it comes to health, it is critical that information is correct. AI is wrought with misinformation according to a new study by Mount Sinai School of Medicine. That's because AI is highly vulnerable to repeating and even elaborating on false medical information. Doctors suggest stronger safeguards in order to protect the integrity of medical information circulating in AI chatbots. In the study when physicians and patients turned to AI for support Chatbots often blindly repeated incorrect medical details and even provided medical conditions and treatments that don't even exist. Study authors say their research shines a light on blind spots when it comes to AI misinformation in healthcare. And people are doing, chat GPT my daughter has a fever what should I do? Give her spider seed! This is not a tool it's a parlor trick

1:42:20 Yeah, it can do Python but you know you gotta watch it because they'll run off and change your code and have all kinds of ideas which are not ideas just code copied from somewhere else. And of course it's bad for kids. You might use ChatGPT for help with work, looking up travel itineraries or the latest recipes but some users are using the chatbot differently particularly teens who've had some alarming interactions with ChatGPT According to new research from a watchdog group, ChatGPT will tell teenagers how to get drunk and high how to conceal eating disorders and even write suicide letters to their parents if asked Excellent! OpenAI said after viewing the report that it will continue to refine

1:42:58 can code, identify and respond appropriately in sensitive situations. ChatGPT frequently shared helpful information such as a crisis hotline but when the chatbot refused to answer prompts about harmful subjects researchers easily found information by claiming it was for a presentation or a friend The answers reflect something known as sycophancy-a tendency for AI responses to match rather than challenge a person's beliefs A study found that in the US, more than 70% of teens turn to AI chatbots for companionship and half use AI companions regularly. Sam Altman said the company is trying to study emotional over-reliance on technology.

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Scrunch AI and the Post-Human Web

Scrunch AI CEO Chris Andrew proposes a future where the internet becomes less visual and more text-heavy to accommodate AI data consumption. This "post-human web" would prioritize language for LLMs over visual design for human eyeballs, creating a new form of search engine optimization (SEO) focused on manipulating AI agents.

scrunch ai· seo· large language models· text-based internet· web design

1:43:40 Here's something from NPR which I thought was an interesting take. And this, I could kind of get on board with and as I was thinking about it like oh that's very interesting This is the AI internet but listen to this...I think it's worthy of discussion which I could only have with you I couldn't have it with Chad JCD. I think this is interesting that you'd say this is something you were almost going to be interested in when it has anything to do with AI I think you stay far away from it Well its about advertising So, I'm in. This has some merit. Chris Andrew is CEO and co-founder of Scrunch AI. Scrunch! Scrunch tries to help customers' websites get noticed by AI bots so that their name or products appear in AI answers We're seeing companies that are desperate to get their content consumed by AI models He's talking about companies that sell products and services like sneakers or oil changes

1:44:33 Andrew says that visibility can lead to more transactions, even if there are fewer overall clicks. He sees a future where a whole new post-human web emerges to feed AI. The websites of today full of pictures and videos were designed primarily for eyeballs. So I have a thesis that we're going to move to a non visual internet because the Internet is going to be for AI and AI wants words. The secret is in the name large language models want language As a society, we have built a very confusing over-designed over incentivized internet that is heavily interactive. Websites as we know them won't vanish altogether he says people will still need to visit them to buy stuff I can see this! This is something I can get on board with

1:45:20 So I can... You know what, I'm gonna stop you. I don't know what the hell they just said the two of them. Okay What do you mean? They lost me right away It was just like they wandered off into some bullshit about the internet not being visual and it's going to go old Let me tell you what he is saying Yeah why don't you explain it because they sure didn't I was gonna fall asleep so If you're looking for the ultimate weed whacker Yes, the classic. The internet is filled with pictures and JavaScript and animations and pop-ups and widgets and all kinds of things... junk! Crap junk that is meant to attract your eyeballs to it and click on it And then all of a sudden you're buying the wrong weed whacker. Excuse me. Covid

1:46:06 What he's saying is, if we move to a much more text-based then you can have your own AI that will get this information. Can we... and there are some reasonable argument that a large language model can parse language and find things. But this then becomes, a real war of words is who can manipulate the AI agents, the agentic AI that is out there trying to get it to the top of the AI search results. So this will be, in fact I see a whole new gig for Buzzkill Jr., I mean this is now the new SEO is moved at lots of text manipulative texts so that your product gets mentioned when the agentic AI is out there trying to get it because ultimately that's all the internet will ever become outside

CHAPTER 20 / 34 Discussion

OpenAI Strategy Shift and Government Contracts

OpenAI is offering its Enterprise product to federal agencies for just one dollar, a move interpreted as a sign of a sales struggle. The company is also releasing "open weights" for some models to compete with Meta's Llama and China's DeepSeek. This shift suggests that the high cost of cloud operations is forcing AI companies to let users run models on their own hardware.

openai· sam altman· deepseek· open source· cloud computing

1:47:05 you know, obviously outside of communication between people which is becoming increasingly difficult. Is a shopping network so bring back Gopher is what I'm thinking this isn't this is a good idea now keep your eye on that company Scrincher, Scrincher AI but all of it now is falling apart as we got this morning the let me see I think have a clip You just contradicted yourself. In what? You go on about how this is going to be the future scruncher and then all of us falling apart Well, no the idea is valid but the problem is the revenue OpenAI is now giving chat GPT to the government for one dollar

1:47:55 You hear about this? No, tell me. Yeah so even though they were offered a 200 million dollar contract with the Department of Defense that was in June Sam Altman said no no we want to really partner with the government So uh... We're going to give our Chad GPT Enterprise product to US federal agencies for one dollar For one dollar Let me tell you something when you're offering the government your product for $1. You have a sales problem I mean, I've never heard of this never and he's not an altruist There's no way so they have it absolute problem with selling their products in how

1:48:41 Now, oh you know what? We should probably open source it all. Okay! OpenAI is shifting strategy today making its tech more accessible than it's been in six years because until now you could only use OpenAI models through the cloud or chat and web apps like ChatGBT but with this release Developers can download open weight models and build your apps around them. So this is similar to what Meta, Microsoft-backed Mistral and China's DeepSeek have already done. A model's weights are the values inside the network that get set during training so making them public means developers can freely modify and run AI on their own systems but to your point Becky it is not fully open source OpenAI still is not sharing its training data or entire code base

1:49:29 cheaper to operate and better suited for sensitive work that companies don't want running in the cloud. Now, Sam Altman said months ago that OpenAI had been on the wrong side of history by keeping its AI locked up and this shift also comes after DeepSeek's breakout success and the widespread adoption of Meta's LLAMA models but now Meta itself is rethinking how open its next generation will be such that Mark Zuckerberg suggested on last week's earnings call as OpenAI moves in the exact opposite direction. So today's launch makes OpenAI pretty much the only US LLM builder that is actively leaning into a more open approach aiming to grow its developer ecosystem while also

1:50:10 going head-to-head with Chinese rivals like DeepSeek and Kimmy K2 as Altman doubles down on this American AI dominance. Okay so let me get this straight, Meta which from day one has been developing and using the llama model open source everybody go ahead take our model which is prevalent everywhere they're now saying well you know we should probably close that source and bring it in house and then open I open a eyes like well you might want to run this on your own hardware. They're confused, there is no strategy here except that yeah nerds like me will run a model on their own machine and maybe have it go look for the best weed whacker but that's about it this thing has no... Yeah? But when I'm hearing this what I hear is that the cloud version of open AI is costing them too much money Amen! That's right

1:51:06 That's right. It's like we have to do this, it's not free! Far from it but again you know according to my buddy at Databricks all this AI super scalar nonsense is only about getting everybody's data into their cloud that's it it's really just a cloud play and then they run Oracle against it and then if you want you want to run some chat GPT on okay it's $11,000 dollars an hour The whole thing is a house of cards, but okay. You know it probably lasts five more years as you say I don't know maybe yeah by I think fires about right And then half the but then how haven't had peak a peak peak What would peak AI be? But you'll know it when you see that's not good enough. I need peak AI It'll be a jumping-the-shark moment Yeah Maybe and then it'll be another year before it starts to collapse

CHAPTER 21 / 34 Discussion

Origin of the Tucker Carlson Laugh

A potential origin for Tucker Carlson's distinctive laugh is traced to the 1984 film *Amadeus*, specifically the mocking, high-pitched laugh of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. The laugh is described as a "paroxysm" or a spasmodic physical reaction.

tucker carlson· amadeus· wolfgang mozart· paroxysm· laugh

1:52:02 But when it jumps the shark, that's a time to you know you get your last ditch investments and then you get out of there. Yeah um let me see what time is it I'll take a break...I do have another lead on The Tucker Laugh. Wait a minute! I can't do it anymore? I got to have a sip of water. Hold on. I think it's because you have COVID-19. I don't even think you should be working on it There it is That was pretty good right uh You know that's you know I think you're starting to actually You're becoming self-conscious with it and it's hurting. It's hurting the show actually, it's hurting the show Here is another potential origin of the Tucker laugh I take you to the movie Amadeus from 1984 The movie about the life of Amadeus Wolfgang Mozart People fart backwards

1:52:56 I remember that movie very distinctly and i'd remember that annoying laugh which was mocking him of course this movie was sympathetic towards Salieri yes and Yeah, it's possible. It was a screwball laugh and it is very similar. It's pretty close yeah

1:53:37 It's like a paroxysm with, uh... Paroxysm? Ooh! What is- what is a paroxysm? So you go into a spasm. Oh, paroxysm. It's like it's a spasmodic laugh. Ah, paroxysm that is really- Because he's like He's sitting there and then when he does not just the laugh itself but he just wiggles all over he goes like into a spasm That should be the word of the day kids Paroxysm And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you the man who put the C in chat JCD. Say hello to my friend on the other end! The one and only Mr. JOBSCEEEEEEE! And good morning to you, this is Adam Crane, a marine ship with sea boots of the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water... AND the names of knights out there. Good morning to the trolls in the troll room- hold on let me count ya for a second- there we go it's done.

CHAPTER 22 / 34 Discussion

Podcast Infrastructure and Streaming Costs

The technical infrastructure required to host a large independent podcast is discussed, noting that using a service like Cloudflare could cost over $80,000 per month. The show relies on its own co-located servers and the "Value for Value" model to remain independent of corporate hosting platforms.

podcasting· cloudflare· value for value· infrastructure· void zero

1:54:33 Man, we're not even in the dog days of summer yet. 1618 on the troll count! They are listening live at TrollRoom.io or on any of the extremely modern podcast apps which are just extremely modern because they have extremely modern features that have been around for four or five years What are you waiting for? Ditch that legacy app go to Podcast Apps with a plural apps.com and select one I think a pod verse turns out to be the number two most used app for this show Apple is number one, but like 28% Podverse comes in and double digits almost 20%. Huh? And the reason is because you get an alert and

1:55:15 when we go live, and then you can listen to the livestream in your podcast app. How cool is that? And it's not just our show many shows are picking up on this especially the No Agenda favorites like Planet Rage! So we're running 200 down on Sundays and Thursdays Correct Should have 1800 of 1600 Yeah I had a chat with Void Zero Yes About various things Really about his billing no doubt Well, he's good. The real bite is the bite... It's a bite-the-bullet moment coming because we need a new server I know oh he doesn't even ask me about that anymore He just goes... He used to email me Hey man when you need a new server it's 17 years old it's falling apart and I'd be like okay I gotta go ask John I got talk to him about it so he was just bypassing me now

1:56:08 Well, I told him I'd talk to you about it because we have to have it. We have to and now he's like You know she has a few moments of well, you know there's one on sale, you know He found one on eBay no he didn't but he Did this? We were talking about this and did I just wanted to mention the people? I don't know if they've got in that That pre-edit, that uh... Now why would you go mention the edit? There's no need for that. Well, because we lost connection. Yeah but I punched you in it's seamless and nobody knows... But then I would have edited that out and made it seamless now people are like oh well you can edit this out just as easily. Okay continue So the point is I want to make it to the listeners and producers is that we have our own infrastructure

1:57:05 And that's the reason that nobody can take us off the air and it costs money to do that. We have our own co-locations and all the rest of it, and that's why we ask for donations too but in the process of discussing some of these things he mentioned to me That the numbers of listeners according to the download stats has remained pretty much the same for the last two years So the fact they were having less people listen live is somewhat disconcerting because it shouldn't happen right? There was actually a conversation, hold on second. There was an interesting conversation on this podcast group it's a WhatsApp group but the only WhatsApp group I'm a member of and they were calculating our cost here it is this is James Cridland okay? James Cridland he does pod news

1:58:04 What is the word? Authorities in podcast news. Okay, and he says no agenda and you know we have our numbers out there 876,069 downloads in I think this was June 46% listen to at least half, so an average is 94.7 minutes 82.9 million minutes in June Streaming costs if we did not have our own infrastructure and we use Cloudflare Which is what most of the hosting companies use guess what that would cost I have no idea $82,963 a year? No for one month

1:58:51 What? Yes, that's it. Now that's if we use Cloudflare of course we don't so let's say They could probably get it down to about 15-20 thousand a month yes Yeah this is no joke It's not a joke man I know you're flabbergasted aren't ya? I am flabbergasted Well its a big show I was thinking of replacing you with a Chad, Chad Adam and then just using pot bean. Go for it. Go for it. It's all good anyway yes so it's not you know there's real and by the way we do actual work

1:59:44 Let me tell you how many clips we have for today's show. You interested? Now some of these... It's always hovering around 50 plus Oh no, it's much more than that Are you kidding? I do but, I have a limit. I stop at about 33 Today you had 27 and I had 57 Now that also includes ISOs but it's still clipping work Lots of people send stuff pre-clipped But there's real work involved and we are really doing the work. And we have to listen all this crap Our problem is, We make it look easy This is the problem It's our problem! Yeah yeah...and we do it ourselves We don't have people editing the show taking out all the uh's and the uh's No they take the life out of the show Well that's what most podcasts are Lifeless pieces of dreck

2:00:46 And that's what happens when you try Chase CD, it becomes lifeless. It is just no good anyway all to say value for value is the way we have run this so void zero for years and years and years has been completely value-for-value We've evened that out a bit as he runs a lot of infrastructure for us but we have all these producers So many producers that no news organization can top us. We have constitutional lawyers, we have doctors, we have dentists, we have psychologists... Oh my goodness! The amount of Kratom experts we have? Too many. We have too many producers You gotta wonder what our producers are doing but the Kratom experts is amazing I will read one

CHAPTER 23 / 34 Discussion

Kratom Chemistry and Opioid Definitions

An ER nurse provides a technical breakdown of Kratom, distinguishing between the alkaloids mitragynine and the more potent 7-hydroxymitragynine (7-OH). While Kratom is a partial opioid agonist, it is distinguished from "opiates" derived directly from the poppy plant. The 7-OH variant is noted for having more severe withdrawal symptoms.

kratom· mitragynine· 7-hydroxymitragynine· opioid· opiate

2:01:37 Got a bunch of notes, too. Did you get the one from the ER nurse? I know I don't know maybe I don't probably not this is in response to the The vape store heroin or whatever it was er nurse here Okay So there's a tiny amount of seven Hydromyxogritogen 7-OH in normal kratom, it is the most potent part of it. 99% of the active chemicals are just mitragynine... I think that's how you pronounce it In a lab they oxidize the mitragynine into 7-OH They both affect the MU receptors opioid but do not recruit the beta arrestin pathway which would cause respiratory depression

2:02:17 Which means you die. Both of them can cause addiction with prolonged use and withdrawal is unpleasant! People in the R withdrawing from the 7-OH though have it much worse I would say if using kratom for pain management keeps you off opiates then it's worth it just don't graduate to the 7-OH as its nearly identical to OP8s not opioid but opiates. Is she the one who gives I think it gives us the definition between opiate and opioid. Now, I have that one here that yeah you should read that because we me mostly yes went on and on about this because i had the sense of here we go this is a TLD put these in the shown us TLDR kratom is considered them to most by most experts to be an opioid drug not an opiate

2:03:04 and is generally safer than street opiates or opioids. Opioids are substances that are derived from the poppy plant such as opium, morphine, heroin. Kratom is not an opioid. Opioid's the broad category of substances that activate the opioid receptors including opiate but are not necessarily derivatives of poppy fentanyl for example is not a poppy derivative kratom is generally thought to fit this description though Kratom is a partial opioid agonist. Wow, so there you go that's the kind of people we have listening

2:03:44 And people that know what they're doing. The thing that makes it work is, is that we listen to them. Yeah exactly! Which is not very unusual in media. They don't listen to anybody but sniffing their own farts basically. Well they listened to the producer in their ear and they learn how to read very well Not all of them, but most of them. And they read a script and they go to cocktail parties. Yes! A lot of them. Boom! We on the other hand have no cocktail parties I gotta listen to people freaking out about 5G towers killing us Okay that's fine and we clip...we do a lot of clipping

CHAPTER 24 / 34 Discussion

No Agenda Art and the History of Sock Hops

A debate over podcast cover art leads to a history lesson on "sock hops," which were held in school gymnasiums to protect the floors from leather-soled shoes. The term originated because students were required to dance in their socks. Various community resources like Bingit.io and ClipGenie are highlighted as valuable producer-led tools.

sock hop· gymnasium· leather soles· bingit.io· podcast art

2:04:29 So that's one way that people help us. Of course, we have lots of people build websites. We got Tim Code Monkey codes monkey we got Sir Daniel. We got to well, of course, we have the Noah Gen art generator, sir Paul Couture I don't think I know if he listens because I'm still hoping that he'll allow animated gifs in there but that hasn't happened a note. I have couple he's get different email addresses and yeah, I don't know if he listens anymore either. I think he does occasionally but It's like, you know a lot of people listen to the show then they go overboard because they come back I don't know why they go overboard in the first place Because they think they know it all and they think they don't have to be tuned into the news. No, I Think this should be listening cuz we're funny tick-tock lips is that tick-tock lips that drives people away? No, no, is that not playing enough of them

2:05:18 Episode 1787, O.G. Daffy is what we called that and you were correct a lot of pushback on this art very controversial And it was a nice piece You know wasn't like wow look at this It was the No Agenda sock hop We had a young couple who are dancing close cheek to cheek and all the other kids are walking around aimlessly looking At their phones not talking to each other so the conceit as we say in the business was correct however Many people commented, that's not a sock hop! Because they have the shoes on. That's what I said when we picked the art And I did not realize You should have because I could go to Bing and IO because when I first discussed sock hops cause i'm the sock hop guy

2:06:06 I mentioned the reason for this called a sock cop because they had these dances in a gymnasium and back in the day, kids didn't wear tennis shoes all the time. They actually wore leather-soled shoes that have rubber heels and you would go into the gym and if you started dancing around, you scuffed the gym up! It would make a mess so you had to wear socks. So wow...you're right Thursday, March 31st 2011. Episode 291 of this podcast! That is what? 15 years ago? Yeah... That title was unconstitutional Botox for some reason

2:06:50 You gave this very explanation. Okay, thanks for that history lesson. You're welcome! Which proves I don't listen to you. That's well known And if you look at bingit.io man we've talked about this numerous times

2:07:33 Throughout the years. By the way, there is Sir Deanonymous with ClipGenie dot com with Bingit dot IO These are amazing value very valuable resources Resources that are available to you at no cost Thanks to our producers This is amazing It's actually quite a phenomenon We are a phenom So thank you Blue Acorn Good job Sorry about the shoes, but otherwise pretty good. Did there was anything else we I don't think it was anything that we like no it was bad It's all a I drivel well It's always gonna be that way But they can still get something could happen to make something injury I did like the wallet you didn't like because it was too small yeah, it's very small That's what you said yes correct? It was too small and you didn't even push back cuz you knew it was true

2:08:24 The wallet was good, a good piece. And there's a lot of butts nice tight but small type butts. A couple of nice ones and it wasn't really anything else that was usable No no we should just call this the butt cast and just use one piece art over and over again by Darren Well, a comic strip blogger would come into that and he'd take over. Thank you to all of the artists who use their prompting skills these days to bring us artwork that was it's always appreciated no agenda art generator comm everybody can participate It's open to all we always like to thank our producers who support us with the financial donation it is necessary You heard part of the reason why

CHAPTER 25 / 34 Discussion

The Government War on Social Dance

Dame Andy Jane, director of Dance Houston, details a century-long government suppression of social dance through excise taxes and selective funding. Since the 1920s, taxes have targeted dance halls while the NEA has prioritized "highbrow" concert dance over community social events. This has contributed to the de-socialization of the American family.

dance houston· excise tax· savoy ballroom· national endowment for the arts· social dance

2:18:33 For more details visit his website 4.77.com, no jingles Blessings always welcome Thanks Scott Johnson Kissimmee Florida I want you to read the next one. This is actually addressed to you, even though I'm the one who keeps talking about sock hops she thinks it's you? Well this was a good note. This was content. Dame Andy Jane...this is a great note! It could be a great note. No this was in response to the sock hop and Dame Andy says there has been war on dance since at least as far back as 1920s listen up That premise by the way I find interesting and I will go back to my earlier commentaries

2:19:16 Where when I was a kid, when it... When I was in grammar school at first second and third grade they taught us dance. They taught us the cha-cha-cha, the bossa nova, they taught us all these different dances and they would be part of class but they also taught us how to read clock by the way. Clock! And um Which reminds me, which brings me to a funny bonus clip. Oh my goodness people should this what and what a segment this is today Did you send me a bonus clip? I didn't see yes It's the top it's the top clip is of the bonus clip oh okay? Oh this one right here Okay Holy shit. I go to the grocery store to buy some bagels for tomorrow morning. I pick up six of them

2:19:57 I go to the cashier, ask me what's in the bag. Say half a dozen bagels He proceeds to pull out a binder full of codes which i didn't think much of because he probably just knew- didn't know the code To put into system for bagels No big deal But then he turns on the light Again, thinking he just doesn't know the code. Supervisor comes over asks what's up and he goes I'm looking for what a half-a-dozen bagels are and that's the code! And points to it in the binder and says no, what does half a dozen mean? This kid is 16 17 18 in that ballpark and he does not know what half a dozen means That's kind of terrifying honestly What's even more terrifying why not ask me to clarify

2:20:35 I think my mouth dropped open because even the supervisor was like, well we'll work on that buddy. Mm-hmm Oh my god work on that work at work on what teach this boy somebody What is our education system teaching these kids? But I learned my lesson next time i'll just say exactly the number of bagels donuts whatever I have exactly to the cashier I will not be cute and use a neat little saying like that ever again Well, that's kind of concerning Yes, I thought so too. It's distressing actually but this is the same as reed clock Well, so if you said I want a gross that will be a real big problem for him, huh? But luckily somebody doesn't want to hogshead So there's been a war on dance since at least as far back as the 1920s The Savoy Ballroom was opened in 1926 As the first integrated dance hall and one of the most prominently integrated private spaces in the USA

2:21:31 It was repeatedly closed down by vice on unsubstantiated allegations of prostitution. Did we have prostitution in your day? A federal excise tax of 30% was instituted against all dance halls in 1944 to quote support the war It continued on a diminished basis until 1965. Local excise tax piled on and continued after that date to this day. Back-tax debt closed the local ballroom in Houston that had hosted Louis Armstrong. There's still a dance hall tax in Houston, it's $500 per six months! This is interesting...

2:22:09 The NEA, the National Endowment for the Arts was established in 65 and is funded primarily ballet and modern contemporary dance. It has made dance more of an art than a social event this is replicated at the state level in government organizations such as the Texas Commission on the arts it funds highbrow dance concerts to the exclusion and detriment of regular dance finally at the local level there's a hotel occupancy tax in most major cities that supports the arts This tax props up dance concerts again to the exclusion and detriment of social dance gatherings. The rules exclude competitions, religious and social events." And as the founding director of Dance Houston... Hello Dance Houston! I went after and obtained these government grants from 2006-2020. I stopped listen to this

2:23:04 I stopped when it started listening to no agenda. We're hurting the arts! And then, I wrote this paper—I'll link to that in the show notes—it took any of my local grantors who had been very generous with me and stopped applying for grants and updated my website with this page that says we will receive grants but not apply them...apply to them. Major changes happened around here when I blew the whistle. Okay blah blah blah there's a lot of stuff here I've been biting my tongue about sock hops since it may take a dissertation to grasp the 100-year evolution from public free dancing to what we have now, but it's my forte. So here you have it! The government has in fact suppressed dancing and elevated concert dance." Well this has given me an idea of possible exit strategy...I'm gonna open a dance hall in Fredericksburg. I don't think we have one

2:23:57 I'm sure you don't. I'm going to open one if they try to tax me, i'm gonna cause a stink! I tell you... I betcha there's a state law We'll find out. I think it is peculiar-I didn't even consider what she did her whole note which was long uh... I didn't consider any of that as part of the problem The de-socialization of children is what this amounts to. And everything has been, the targeting has been the family has been desocialized they were trying to get rid of the family and they're trying to get socialization down the way to do that...the way to do all of this

2:24:32 I would say it's a... You know what is also a problem? It used to be, as you said because it was the same when I was growing up. We had dance! It was a class, we took dance. I think it was elective but you took dance in school and dance lessons have moved to dance studios and they're expensive and you only go there if you get married and got to do your first dance This should we should bring this back, you know and have some of those beautiful dances where you dance together We do have line dancing in Texas and we have stuff like that. But there's something to be said for that John It's not happening. The tendency is to bust up the family Stop people from socializing put them on the little screens and let him sit there and type-type-type

2:25:22 And point on their TikTok videos and point at you and tell you your bad, wiggle your finger. Yes with the bird hands. Bird hands all right enough of that. Melinda Lou Padkin's up and she's last on our list, and she's from Lakewood Colorado and wants jobs. Carmen says worried about AI? For a resume that gets results and tells your unique story and highlights the value you bring go to imagemakersinc.com That's Image Makers Inc! with a K and work with Linda Lou, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! I'm telling you...I betcha the church would let me take the chairs out and have us have a dance We could do it

CHAPTER 26 / 34 Discussion

US-China Competition over Cook Islands Minerals

The U.S. State Department has entered talks with the Cook Islands regarding seabed mineral research to counter Chinese influence in the Pacific. The FBI recently opened an office in New Zealand to monitor CCP activity in the region. The U.S. is attempting to secure domestic and allied sources of rare earth minerals, which are currently 90% controlled by China.

cook islands· seabed mining· ccp· fbi· rare earth minerals

2:26:14 You could, well let's see if anyone shows up. Well no that's not guaranteed at all! Thank you Linda thank you to these associate executive producers and executive producers for episode 1788 we are drawing close to our 18th anniversary in October which is okay don't get too excited we haven't made it yet there's no guarantee we're gonna make it and I might exit with my dance hall But of course we appreciate you and all of these titles are valid show business credits that we've discussed. And in our second segment, we'll be thanking people $50 and above go to noagendadonations.com to support the show it's worth it that is if you get any value out of our podcast NoAgendaDonations.com and thank you to the associate and executive producers Our formula is this We go out or hit people in the mouth

2:27:13 Order! Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave I'm kind of liking this idea and you know what? We can do a sock-off we'll just have people take their shoes off not that it's necessary but it'd be fun yeah I'm kinda liking this in my old age I'm digging these ideas yeah yeah yeah I'm diggin' these ideas I have an unreported story I thought I run this idea okay I always like these unreported stories. This is a story nobody's covering this, i don't know why but it's good stuff! This is the unreported Cook Islands story Why is the U.S competing with China over a little island nation in the Pacific? The State Department just started seabed mineral talks with the Cook Islands A country with ties to New Zealand Entities Washington correspondent Jack Bradley The US is partnering with the Cook islands To conduct research on seabed minerals

2:28:09 The Pacific Island country sits atop a seabed that's reportedly rich in critical minerals, and it is also subject to influence by the Chinese Communist Party. The announcement was made on the Cook Islands' 60th anniversary. They said in a joint statement on Tuesday that US-link firms sit at the forefront of deep seabed mineral research and exploration in the Cook Islands which reflects strong and shared U.S.-Cook Islands seabed mineral interests Last week the FBI opened a new office in Wellington, New Zealand which oversees the Cook Islands and it's opened to counter the CCP's regional influence cybercrime and espionage. That's what FBI director Kash Patel said at the time that countering the CCP is a top priority both for the US and New Zealand Putting us together in common space

2:28:58 sharing with intelligence platforms and law enforcement partners and defense operations is the only way we are going to actually counterman the CCP threat that is dominating the Indo-Pekong region. That's as concerns arose earlier this year over the Cook Islands deepening ties with China their Prime Minister went to China in February and signed a trade and seabed mining agreement with the CCP You know, it's funny you mention that because I had a clip for the last show from Australia where they talked about the FBI opening this office in New Zealand and the only reason... They didn't mention the Cook Islands. The only reason I clipped it was why is the FBI operating outside America?

2:29:43 Which brings us to, besides the second part of this clip which brings us to the TV show which is to soften us up for this idea because they had a show. They had these you know Dick Wolf did these FBI shows first it was FBI then they rolled out FBI Most Wanted and then they rolled out FBI International And FBI International makes it sound like the FBI is an international police force. Most of the stories are taking place in Europe with an FBI office in Europe and they're, again... It's just like any FBI story in a New York FBI story like their regular FBI series where they were there superseding the local cops! In Europe!

2:30:30 Every time I watch that show, I just shake my head thinking what is this? What's going on here with this FBI and this internationalization of the operation. Who are we kidding? We are the world's policemen! I guess we have to just admit it to ourselves. Yeah yeah... Anyway part two of this will be done with that. But New Zealand leaders were unhappy that they weren't informed about this as the countries share constitutional ties and in June New Zealand suspended 11 million dollars to the Cook Islands in development funding China has been working to tie itself to several island nations for rare earth minerals. China supplies about 90% of the world's rare earths and also dominates in producing many critical minerals. Analyst say that if China were to ban exports of these minerals to the US, the consequences

2:31:17 could be economically catastrophic. So a total export ban would be devastating to the US economy, we would need to rely on domestic sources if we can get them online and turn to allies as much as possible. Right now the U.S is looking into alternatives like its trading partners in the Indo-Pacific Japan Australia an also mining here at home We have vast mineral resources here A lot of people do not understand how much we actually have Last month, for instance the Pentagon agreed to invest 400 million dollars in a stake in MP Materials America's largest rare earth mine. How did we get so far behind the 8 ball on this deal? What do you mean? Well...

2:32:00 Rare earths which are used mostly for that the most important part of them are for magnets Yeah, first super strong little bitty magnet. So you can't have little stepper motors without little bitty magnets You can have a little bit II Magnus without these rare earths. No How did we get so far behind on and I'm letting the Chinese just take over the entire business when it's so important Thanks Obama I think he goes back to Clinton. You know, I was talking to my buddy Robert. Robert works here in Fredericksburg and he's a CNC operator and he makes very very tiny parts. I think a lot of it is military. He showed me apart it was like you know it wouldn't even fit on your thumbnail. It was so small complete precision. And I said how are the tariffs doing?

2:32:55 And he said, you know it's really a problem because our cost has gone up about 50% over the stuff we're importing from China. He says so that is a problem. However American metals, so he wasn't talking about minerals per se. But American metals are far superior to the stuff from China and he said everybody knows that the hidden secret is that no matter what you order from China you can throw 40% away because it's just wrong is broken as defective junk. So it's really only about 10%, a ten percent difference there

2:33:40 switching to American stuff, but you know American companies are getting more efficient and the cost is going to come down. And he thinks that this is gonna turn out pretty good and I think the same holds true for minerals and for the production of minerals in that company was mentioned there One of our producers sent me a note, he said you know I heard you guys talking about what was the name of the company? MP something or other. We have vast mineral resources here A lot of people do not understand how much we actually have Last month for instance The Pentagon agreed to invest 400 million dollars in a stake in NP Materials America's largest rare earth mine So we had mentioned this

CHAPTER 27 / 34 Discussion

Impact of Trump Reciprocal Tariffs

The U.S. has begun enforcing broad reciprocal tariffs, raising the average rate from 2% to 15%. While allies like Japan and the EU have accepted 15% rates, India faces 50% tariffs due to Russian oil purchases. The program has generated over $150 billion in revenue by July, though critics warn of higher consumer prices.

tariffs· donald trump· trade deficit· customs duties· manufacturing

2:34:23 And one of our producers, he knows it. Oh the minute I heard you guys talking about it... ...I bought stock and it dropped 10%. But I'm holding on! I think its going to go to the moon now. It may be a good idea. We don't offer tax advice. Investing in mining is not necessarily a bad thing. Well just we can probably talk about there's some tariff stuff A very fun slanted report of course from France 24. From liberation day to collection day as US customs officials finally begin enforcing Donald Trump's tariffs on April 2nd the president announced new import duties on virtually all US trading partners worldwide called

2:35:10 calling them reciprocal for policies that have left America with large trade deficits and gutted its manufacturing base. Since then, a number of them have inked preliminary frameworks most UK goods now getting at 10% rate US allies like the EU Japan and South Korea reluctantly accepting deals for around 15%. Lower than Trump's initial threats, but still a major increase from their previous positions. Some other countries though have seen their positions worsen since April India is now facing 50% tariffs over its purchases of Russian oil Brazil facing the same rate as Trump accuses it of persecuting his ally far-right former president Jair Bolsonaro

2:35:55 thousands of other countries have not managed to reach a new deal. Overall, the average U.S. tariff rate is going from 2% last year up to 15%. Meanwhile Trump has either threatened or already imposed significant sector-specific duties on industries like automobiles metals pharmaceuticals and microprocessors Those tariffs have already raised significant revenues. By the end of July, the U.S had collected over $150 billion in customs duties—nearly double the amount from that same period last year. Though they target foreign goods, tariffs are a tax paid by importers. US businesses and consumers are thus now bracing for higher prices

2:36:39 amid a rapid reordering of the global trade system. I think that's the general opinion from the pro-tariff people, that that's what gonna happen mostly and especially from China side. China's markup is out even though there are all this cheap stuff from China. We have more than a few producers from China right now you have no idea he says the stuff they're selling looks cheap at two bucks it's take a drop into a buck and still be cheap for them sort of thing

2:37:29 And so the Chinese can eat a lot of the profits. They're just making money hand over fist with their over-production. I see you're shooting yourself in the foot here Why? Because, you should say yeah it's because of the tariffs that we can't do the microphone company Yeah, okay. So I walked right into that one You probably set me up That was a setup That was nice try I was thinking about it for weeks For weeks! For weeks I tell you Yeah, you've been sitting on that People don't realize that you actually sit around and rehearse in the mirror I do How can I get him now? I'll get him this time That's basically it Now there is good news

CHAPTER 28 / 34 Discussion

American Worker Rebate Act of 2025

Senator Josh Hawley introduced legislation to distribute record tariff revenues back to citizens via $600 rebates per adult and child. The "American Worker Rebate Act" would target individuals making under $75,000. There is speculation that these checks could be timed for the midterm elections and feature the President's signature.

josh hawley· tariffs· rebate· stimulus· treasury department

2:38:13 Trump checks incoming. Well, remember those stimulus checks from a few years back the federal government depositing a few hundred bucks in your bank account during COVID-19? Well, a similar idea has been introduced in Congress not because of a global health emergency but because of the record amount of revenue being brought through tariffs. Republican Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri has officially introduced this piece of legislation entitled American Worker Rebate Act 2025. It's based on the belief that the federal government is bringing in a record amount

2:38:48 of tariff revenue and as a result the American people deserve a cut. In June for instance, the federal government reported a new tariff revenue record of over 26 billion that has quadrupled the amount from the same month last year even more tariff revenue appears to be on the way with President Donald Trump announcing new tariff rates for European countries in recent days. Here is how the proposed tariff rebate plan could possibly work, according to Senator Hawley's legislation $600 per adult and child would be deposited by the Treasury Department into Americans bank accounts individuals making under $75,000 a year and couples who file their taxes jointly and make under 150,000 would qualify

2:39:33 Those earning more would receive a reduced payout. The amount could even increase depending on if tariff revenue booms even more. I make a prediction, here's my prediction these checks will come as checks they will have President Trump smiling face on it they will have his signature and it'll be just about around the midterms That's what you do. It is called bribing the public. It is a great way to do it, everyone will be happy! And who is going to complain about it? Oh the Democrats. They are gonna hide and run away and hide. Trump I think when he did it for the first time because he put his signature on these checks

2:40:18 And there was something about it, it's like Scott Besant which I'm convinced only wants to remain as a Treasury Secretary because his signature is on every bill. Yes So every bill that's printed has got his signature on it which is kind of cool if you think about it Very cool! and so why would you want to do anything but that job? Signature on every dollar bill Because its not really money It belongs to the Treasury It's got your signature on it was so Trump as a promoter. Yes, this is an opportunity I agree 100% I don't think his picture that I didn't think about the picture but now you mentioned I think instead of a seal Yeah have Trump's picture

CHAPTER 29 / 34 Discussion

Christine Lagarde on the Digital Euro

ECB President Christine Lagarde defended the "Digital Euro" as a digital expression of cash. She admitted "at the margin" that it would not offer the same absolute privacy as physical banknotes but dismissed concerns that Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) are a "nuclear bomb" for financial freedom.

christine lagarde· digital euro· cbdc· privacy· european central bank

2:40:59 That's not a bad idea. I'm sure they'll be mulling that over And and not to fall short over there in the European Union Unfortunately, I looked for a long time to get this full clip. I could not find the clip with the question that Christine Fifi-Lagarde answered And the question was about the digital euro. And I won't tell you what the question was because she answers that at the very end of this rather short clip, it's annoying because I really want to have them. I really want to have the full series is from Euro debates but they chopped it up and they didn't have her full speech in Q&A Now the digital euro is going to be a 100% bona fide certified central bank digital currency

2:41:48 Yeah. Which is a very, very poor idea for the people of the European Union and so I think the question was rather hostile and here's her answer... You know, I have a pretty simple understanding of what the digital euro is And for me, this is the digital expression of cash. Right? I mean we all have cash well most of you i suppose...I do! I like cash whether it takes the form of coins or banknotes This is cash and this is central bank money if you will It's sovereign money There's a big difference between sovereign and central bank money but okay Fifi I really don't understand much about the digital euro Yeah you do

2:42:34 But as technologies evolve over the course of time and as the preference for payment evolves, we need to respond to the demands of our European compatriots. I see digital euro has a digital expression of cash – it's like digital cash You can argue at the margin that in terms of you know a Absolute privacy we're not exactly on the same page. Oh, you could argue in the margin In the margin that you know it's not quite the same privacy you have as cash No

2:43:13 It's not the margin that is the main point of it. You can argue at the margin that in terms of, you know, absolute privacy we're not exactly on the same page. You could argue that the cost of cash is higher than blah blah... In essence, that's what it is So to argue that digital cash is a nuclear bomb I think that's a little bit over-the-top We are not holding nuclear bombs in our pockets as far as I know The guy said, CBDC is a nuclear bomb. You're gonna just trap everybody in it That's exactly right as exactly what's happening get out while you can Europe Don't be like John and California stuck there until the cycles over He won't survive it yeah hmm the cycle

CHAPTER 30 / 34 Discussion

Russia-Ukraine Peace Talks and Special Envoy Witkoff

U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff held a productive three-hour meeting with Vladimir Putin in Moscow to discuss ending the Ukraine conflict. President Trump is reportedly planning a face-to-face meeting with Putin and a potential three-way summit with President Zelensky. Russia has been given a deadline to agree to a ceasefire or face increased economic sanctions.

vladimir putin· volodymyr zelensky· steve witkoff· ceasefire· moscow

2:44:05 Okay, then some movement on the Russia-Ukraine front. After weeks of worsening relations Donald Trump now says a face to face meeting with Vladimir Putin is on the cards in the near future We had some very good talks with President Putin today and there's a very good chance that we could be ending these Ending the round, ending the end of that road. That road was long and continues to be long but there's a good chance that there will be meeting very soon. While the US president declined to give an exact date The New York Times reported it could be as early as next week Trump then wants a three-way summit with President Putin and Ukraine's President Zelensky If the talks do go ahead It would be first time American and Russian leaders meet face to face since 2021 Geneva Summit

2:44:56 The announcement comes hours after the US's special envoy Steve Whitkoff met with Putin in Moscow. The Kremlin called these talks productive Russia has until Friday to agree to a ceasefire or face further sanctions Trump discussed Whitkoff visit with Zelensky and European allies in a phone call which was welcomed by the Ukrainian leader We discussed what was said in Moscow It seems that Russia is now more inclined to agree to a ceasefire, the pressure on them is working but the main thing is that they do not deceive us or the US in the details. Despite the optimism, The White House says it will still impose secondary tariffs on countries that buy Russian oil. That could see goods from any country face 100% tax when imported to the U.S..

2:45:38 Oh, there you go. I have a Witkoff clip play my see if there's any different information in it Okay, Witkoff a motorcade believed to be carrying US special envoy Steve Witkoff left the Kremlin on Wednesday President Trump says Witkov had a highly productive meeting with Russian president Vladimir Putin Trump added that great progress was made afterwards I updated some of our European allies everyone agrees this war must come to a close Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was on the call with Trump and European allies as well on Wednesday. According to Zelensky, Putin is more open to peace talks after Wednesday's meeting with Witkoff. We discussed what was said in Moscow

2:46:20 It appears that Russia is now more inclined to consider a ceasefire. The pressure on them is working." Russia's foreign policy advisor says the meeting lasted three hours. When it comes to its topics, first of all, it was the Ukraine crisis and the second topic was possible development of strategic cooperation between the US and Russia Trump is now open to meet with Putin to discuss possible peace solutions. White House press secretary Caroline Leavitt tells NTD's sister media, the Epoch Times that the Russians expressed their desire to meet with President Trump and the president is open to meeting with both President Putin and President Zelensky. President Trump wants this brutal war to end

2:47:01 The developments come just two days before a deadline for Russia to strike a peace deal with Ukraine. Trump says he'll increase economic pressure on Moscow if no deal is reached by Friday. You know, I think you're right about stablecoin in Russia and that's got to be a part of it. Listen Vlad... All right, armistice. Okay? We'll do armistice we'll have a DMC... I think the armistice thing's a good idea too. Armistice demilitarized zone and we'll get you your stable coin and then we can do deals without those annoying Brussels people with SWIFT It's easy! And that's exactly what we want. I think they Russians want that too They're good traders. I mean they don't compete with us really in terms of giant market but everybody likes trading with us there's a lot of opportunities here

2:47:49 We're good traders. We are! Yeah, we are So let's do some deals Let's do a deal man, let's do some deals already And the Russians you know they're running out of champagne You know these guys... They need champagne No there is, you've been around these Russians and in Europe you see a bunch of these Russian oligarchs Poppin sham the most expensive crap you can imagine that is opening it up and dumping it on women's heads. Oh, yeah In the club Yeah, there's just crazy love yeah They are they are although we appear to be auctioning off one of those oligarchs yachts like a three hundred twenty five million dollar yacht

CHAPTER 31 / 34 Discussion

Disaster Aid and Data Center Politics

A rumor that the Trump administration would deny disaster aid to states boycotting Israel was debunked. Meanwhile, in Virginia, data centers have become a major campaign issue, with residents complaining about noise and water use. Governor Glenn Youngkin recently vetoed a bill that would have required stricter site assessments for these facilities.

israel· bds· data centers· glenn youngkin· virginia

2:48:35 Stealing property we doing that's why this is gotta end. That's very bad You know that was like this all of a sudden there was this huge breaking story Alex Jones was flipping out over it that Trump is going to deny disaster aid to any state that Boycotts Israel and man people went crazy And what and I looked into it And what it was is there were some DHS document, and I wouldn't put it past Christy Noem to have put this in herself. And it did indeed have language like if you have a state that boycotts BDS, that boycotts Israel then...

2:49:17 And of course, we know that Mossad has Epstein tapes on Trump. So obviously he would have to do that and what did he do? He said no! We're not doing that nonsense. We put American states first so it died off real quick I thought it was rather interesting how you don't hear people say oh Trump just went against the Mossad. I got a couple clips on the data centers Because this should actually, I should have brought these in during the AI discussion. Yeah yeah sure but I'm looking at these two clips and I can't figure out which is which but let's start with data centers VA Virginia. The rise of data centers is becoming one of the hottest issues on the campaign trail this year in the election for the Virginia House of Delegates. Virginia Public Radio's Michael Pope has details

2:50:16 There's one issue that former delegate Elizabeth Guzman hears about all the time in her campaign for a battlefield House seat and Prince William County data centers. They are telling me, okay great data centers are here but I don't see what is in it for me? I do not see those incentives reflected on my property tax bill. The Republican incumbent she's trying to unseat his delegate Ian Lovejoy In the last session of the General Assembly, he introduced an unsuccessful bill that would have prohibited local governments from allowing data centers within a quarter mile of parks schools or residences. When local governments get it wrong so often and so consistently there is a role for state government to step in and say that you're being out of line His bill did not get out of subcommittee

2:51:07 But the General Assembly did pass a separate bill that would have required local governments to do a site assessment of water use and potential noise output of any proposed data center. Republican Governor Glenn Youngkin vetoed it. I'm Michael Pope Water. At the very end, that guy and that's what I have as a second clip you have to listen to this where this guy ended this thing he did does the meme... What was that Sai? What's the name of your aunt? Aunt Gigi! And Gigi does an Aunt Gigi thing at the end. I have they had a very short version of it right here This is the very end of that clip Michael Pope It's not quite the same

CHAPTER 32 / 34 Discussion

Nuclear Reactors on the Moon and NYC Mayor Race

NASA is fast-tracking plans to put a nuclear reactor on the moon by 2030 to compete with similar efforts by Russia and China. In New York City, Reverend Manning has entered the mayoral race with a unique platform focused on banning "horse hair" (braids and extensions) in hospitals and restaurants for hygiene reasons.

nasa· moon· nuclear reactor· reverend manning· horse hair

2:51:55 What kind of reporting is this? This is NPR. You got a guy moaning and groaning on there. Yeah, I think we should... Okay, I got a shorty here real shorty because this was like wow we're spending money on this could be another giant leap for mankind and then some acting NASA administrator Sean Duffy has set to fast-track efforts put a nuclear reactor on the moon by 2030 Documents obtained by Politico and confirmed by ABC News detail the plan. Duffy calls it the second space race, citing similar plans by China and Russia The concern is those countries could potentially block others from exploration if their reactor reaches the lunar surface first A reactor would be an essential source of power during long-term human stays on the moon which is steeped in cold darkness for 14 days at a time Oh brother

2:52:56 Are we really spending money on that? I don't know why that's that news story even came up. Well then to round out my clips for today We know that this is a very exciting race in New York City for mayor of New York Yes with mom Donny Do we even know the Republicans name? That's just Lee wah Oh, Curtis Leigh. Well he's not doing a good job of promoting himself but we do have another candidate we've discussed him before He is a show favorite the one and only Reverend Manning Ah yes you've been saving this clip No it's a new one You know he's now campaigning And he has a very interesting campaign promise

2:53:47 He will remove horse hair from hospitals and restaurants. I would enact legislation that you can't have braids if you work in a hospital, You're standing there trying to give the patient an IV And your hair is dropping in their mouth They cant breathe Their eyes are open they're chewing on your hair Dont know what happened to them You cant have braids and false hair Horsehair in the hospital Horsehair dont belong in the hospital! Horsehair don't belong in the restaurants Horse hair don't belong in the schools! Horse hair don- horse hair belong on a horses ass, that's where it belongs. Don't belong on your head! Wow I love him

CHAPTER 33 / 34 Discussion

MRE Taste Test and Final Donor Credits

The show concludes with a "Tip of the Day" regarding military MREs (Meals Ready-to-Eat), which are praised for their shelf stability and built-in heaters. Final donations are read, new Knights are dubbed at the Round Table, and upcoming meetups in Texas and Idaho are announced.

mre· military rations· value for value· knighting· farmer's dog

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3:05:38 Plenty of meetups on the list for August all the way into September and beyond including remember we got a big October 11th Meetup happening in Fredericksburg, Texas plan accordingly because hotel rooms are sparse and you'll need it well you can stay at the full moon bed-and-breakfast at J6 or Jenny's place if you get in on time. I'm looking forward to seeing everybody there So go take a look at those. NoahJenAtMeetups.com is where you can find a meetup near you, there's great calendar system You can submit your own meetups because if you cant find one it's easy to start one yourself! Go ahead!

3:06:20 You wanna be where you won't be Triggered or held to blame And you wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a pod I'm thinking you misclipped your ISO because it's 15 seconds long? Oh, I must have misclipped it. Is it the very end? Uh...I don't know. Let me see. Show is over stay safe Yeah yeah let me see what was the whole thing Another winner is in the can Another winner is in the can. Oh, this is you doing your AI? Ha! Another winner is in the can You're trying to... oh let me try it Let me regenerate maybe it'll be better another winner is in the cam. No that's no good. Let me try it again Shows is over shows is over that sucks The AIs getting worse another winner is in the can now bland Dow is over stay safe nah no good I'll try this one show is over stay safe okay Wow That's great John good work

3:07:17 In fact, my ISO pertains to it. Good job! Keep it up! Eh? Good job keepin'- It's the same thing Mike but stay safe is funnier. I have more though... So what he just said is totally bogus We have some kid abuse always like using a kid it's too long But I did want to play this from Gus Please donate to my uncles podcast because they have no money to feed their dogs It's just thought it was cute. There's this one that is huge here. This this one here We go to win bags one podcast And then Senator Kennedy pointless organized grab ass so

3:08:03 Wow. I know it's kind of bad you want to... Good job keep it up! I like that one but yours is okay use you can use that, that's okay It's acceptable. It's acceptable? I'm acceptable! I love it hey everybody it's time for my tip of the day! Creative lives for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Okay, I came across what i think is absolutely the best tip of the day in case of an emergency for when the grid goes down. When the EMP hits and you can't go anywhere this is a case of 12 MREs these are military genuine ready-to-eat meals And they come with water activated flameless heating

3:08:59 So, it is not just some cold slop and you can store them in just regular...in your home. You don't have to refrigerate them or anything This is from King Surplus It is the 7.5 MRE case 12-pack US military genuine ready to eat meals You can get variety A or variety B I've tried them myself They are actually delicious What does one of these meals cost? Well, it costs you $38.95 for the 12-pack because they're tasty so it's not cheap but I find them to be okay So you have that for dinner? I did! I tried that and I tried Farmer's Dog It was a toss up between the two Farmer's dog?! Yeah Phoebe is on Farmer's Dog...I always try what my dog eats

3:09:55 Which is actually maybe even a better tip of the day. If you get farmer's dog for your dog, you have your MREs ready to go. You just have... The dog will starve but okay at least I won't. The beef recipe from Farmer's Dog is actually quite tasty Okay Alright there it is everybody! Jarrah's Tip Of The Day brought to you by Sometimes Adam. Great advice for you and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam Created by Dana Brunetti. Okay, I admit it's hard to do a tip of the day It's not an easy thing to do is hard to make it entertaining and interesting You have an extra one of those meals

3:10:41 Yeah, I have 11 left. Why don't you send one to me? I want to see it if it's delicious. It's well After you sigh yeah, you're right this will be the encouragement I'll send you the hard disk that we need for the recent backup Oh, yeah, okay? Yeah, and then when you send me the hard disk back Okay put the meal in there all right there You go that's incentive for you and for me. Yeah Like it's different win like it's ever gonna happen I have to send you the hard disk or i won't get because you already said you want you stop giving me free discs that's right yes cuz they're not just disks their actual drives is a big deal. Yeah, your sending like 10 terabyte drive with 100 megabytes of material Millennial Media offensive is next on the Noah Jenner stream if you're listening live we got into show mixes from audio ghost Jesse Coy Nelson and sound guy Steve coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry

CHAPTER 34 / 34 Discussion

Vaccine Propaganda Supercut and Sign-off

The episode ends with a montage of media clips from the COVID-19 era repeating the "safe and effective" slogan. The hosts sign off from the Texas Hill Country and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners of the next broadcast on Sunday.

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3:11:39 North of Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll see you on Sunday until then remember us at knowagenthedonations.com Adios mofos! Ahooey hooey and such! Are you ready for your vaccine? It's a societal responsibility. It will save us all listen to me. Very frustrating That's really not the right attitude.

3:12:23 You can do it quickly. You can do it in bulk, that's the thing I really want to do. If you drive your car, I'll vax the street. If you try to sit, I'll vax your seat! If you get too tall, I'll wax the feet. They put together complete nonsense. You know, I consider the country as my children

3:13:29 Measles! Measles! Vaccinate? Ain't it great, you really shouldn't hesitate. You did it once then do it twice a second time is just as nice Look out here comes the Needleman Is it safe? Listen dude don't ask questions or your a kook And I'm sick and hurt not according to the submission report Look out here comes the Needleman Dr. Sheree Morris strongly encourages expecting mothers to get the flu vaccine. The ongoing measles outbreak spread a concern from coast to coast. Vaccinate is really great, are you currently up-to-date? Better check on the spot or you'll get by quite a lot don't worry

3:14:17 We're making lots of money, even if something's a bit funny. You'll need to vaccinate! If you have to get sick, you can't beat the measles. Put simply propaganda is the dissemination of ideas intended to convince people to think and act in a particular way and for a particular purpose New CNN reporting shows there's been a sharp decline in vaccination ads on television. The COVID-19 vaccines have been proven safe and effective There is a lot of misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccine, so it's critical that you get the facts from sources you can trust The fact is the vaccines are safe and effective More sickness and death across our nation

3:15:02 A campaign of shock and awe has begun. It's all of our responsibility to slow the spread of the coronavirus People you know and trust are getting vaccinated The most affected are black women Black women, black women, black women Everyone has to keep everyone else safe The vaccines have all been through and met the necessary safety and quality standards Now that every American over the age of 16 is eligible to get the vaccine I want to talk about you getting yours. Getting a vaccine can protect not only you, but your loved ones too. The vaccine is safe-safe. COVID vaccines are safe and effective. It's effective. It's effective. It's easy. It's free! And it cannot change your DNA. The next step on the journey is yours. Our health is worth a shot. I beg the public to take this virus more seriously. The ultimate endgame of all this is vaccination

3:15:56 The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Good job keep it up Hey hey the machine's alive The more we hear the fishier this sounds