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00:00 Hey, I don't understand why they don't think i'm a girl. Adam Curry John C Devorah It's Thursday July 3rd 2025 This is your award winning Gilmore Nation Media Assassination Episode 1778! This...is no agenda Counting the magic minutes and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six In The Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where all our fireworks were destroyed, I am John C. Dvorak. Yeah man did you see that thing blow? That was crazy! You know i have a firework explosion story from when

00:44 I want to say 11. Well before you tell the story we should mention what we're talking about. Oh, well when you brought it up you should mention it! We have a warehouse in Yolo County, Little Town and it blew up completely taking out most of the fire so half the fireworks displays in California won't be happening But it killed now. He killed seven people with the seven people are just basically missing I Didn't even know that part that sucks yeah, by missing we mean blown to smithereens Yes, Smithereens

01:21 I think i was 11 and this is in Holland, they don't have a 4th of July obviously. They do have New Years and in the Netherlands... They don't have a fourth of July? They go from July 3rd to July 5th? They just skip right over it! It's done! Like the eliminated from from the calendar So, New Year's Eve of course, New Years they go nuts. I mean anyone who has ever been in the Netherlands it is nuts and it's two weeks before and two weeks after everybody just so jacked about their fireworks because in good socialist manner that's the only time when you can just go nuts everything else shut up slaves sit down and listen to what do what your told

02:05 So I was with a friend and his family, and this is like a little kind of like a vacation park. We have little bungalows And so there were loft beds and we were up on the loft bed and of course we had a box of fireworks Like yeah, let's take a look at the fireworks He'll be looking at the fireworks, looking at the firecrackers Looking at him It was me my buddy you know 11 year old friend from school in his younger brother And so I'm like, hey watch this. And so I lit a little lady finger and I'm like oh pull the fuse out well of course flash fuse thing blows up right into the box of fireworks and that stuff goes off! It's mayhem in this little house it was a relatively small box

02:53 And, you know, luckily some guys came in and they doused water on it. But the place was pretty much smoke-ridden destroyed and we blamed it on the little brother and that was pretty awesome. We got away with it mostly but it kind of put me in a different perspective of fireworks I'm not such a fan anymore...and that's my story That's a decent story. Yeah, yeah I still didn't lose an eye no no there was no injury but man to this day i still kind of feel bad about playing with the kid and we convinced him like oh yeah and I did that They were the worst So as we speak on this Thursday at little after one o'clock in the central time zone

03:45 The big beautiful bill is being voted on. Everyone's losing their health care, we're all gonna die We're gonna there's gonna be no money left We got the deficit for our children our grandchildren and children of children's children You've got your four boxes up there Jeffrey's finally stopped talking? Finally finally so far I think you said a record, it went nine hours or something. Yuck yuck yuck Well...I actually got an interesting analysis from CNN of all places about this magic minute that he was going for because apparently to go a little bit longer than what was the Republican who did it last? What's his name? He used to be speaker- Speaker of the House guy who got kicked out

04:32 McCarthy? Yeah, McCarthy. He went for eight hours and so many minutes and this was the magic minute will he make it longer but CNN had an uncharacteristically good analysis of what is going on because none of this is about the bill It's all about the midterms the Democrats wanting to win a majority in the Senate, in the House. No one cares about you America this is the big secret not the Republicans not the Democrats they all care about winning in the midterms. Seven hours and counting on the right side of your screen minority leader Hakeem Jeffries still holding the floor delivering a marathon speech an opposition to President Trump's massive agenda bill Republicans are poised

05:21 to pass that bill despite his efforts there. But will Jeffrey's magic minute give Democrats some renewed energy as they plot their course forward? That is certainly what they're hoping, my panel is back. Isaac you have covered Hakeem Jeffries for a long time many years take us inside the strategy that we're seeing play out right now. Yeah, I think it's less important for him to beat the Kevin McCarthy record here at 1 30 or whatever point he'll pass that then what he actually has already achieved which is that this vote was supposed to happen between 6 and 8 a.m when few people would have been awake are paying attention to it will now happen at some point in the middle of day when more people are paying attention to it and

06:08 Within that is an effort to really specifically call out Republican members of Congress in districts that the Democrats are going to go after quite hard next year. It started yesterday, the Democrats before the voting began did an event on the steps at the Capitol And he's picked up on this in his speech saying about Rob Bresnahan in Pennsylvania or Young Kim, California. These members that again they want to go after and say these are the number of their constituents that are going to lose their health coverage, lose their nutritional assistance all these sorts of things. That happening in the middle of the day rather than before most people had breakfast or were out of bed is what

06:55 what the objective is. Yes, the whole idea is to scare everybody that you're going to lose your health care... Hold on a second! Do they think that anybody is oh we're gonna delay it till afternoon so more people nobody's paid nobody who whose Who's the people they're talking about that are going to be paying attention in the afternoon and aren't going to be paying attention at six in the morning? No, you're correct. It's really because CNN doesn't want to have to do all this crap in the middle of the night. Could you guys please move that to the afternoon so we can grab our clips then? We don't want to have to get up early and... That's more like it! Yes yes of course And here is a even place some little mini cut of the clips we shall discuss Okay So you mentioned

07:39 some of the, what they consider the moderate Republicans that they're going after. I want to play kind of a mashup of some of what we are hearing from Jeffries over the past- Mash up! Mash Up! It's called a super clip, super cut or mini cut in your case it is not a mash up. Seven hours but listen carefully to one example of exactly what Isaac was talking about his fellow New Yorker Nick Lelota who is a Republican from who knows if it's a swing district, but they certainly hope so in the Democratic Party. Listen.

08:26 of healthcare that will result directly from this one big ugly bill. People in America... By the way, weak? Is that all you could come up with is big ugly bill? That's the only- You couldn't come up with a better acronym? Of healthcare that will result directly from this one big ugly bill people in America will die Unnecessary deaths. You're gonna die! You'll all die! In New York's 1st Congressional District, represented by our colleague Congressman Nick Laloda People will die! Approximately 50 thousand... Will die!!

09:06 New Yorkers will lose their health care. It's a crime scene! Going after the health and the safety and the well-being of the American people, and Mr Speaker we want no part of it. No one no part in the crime scene so... The whole idea is you're gonna die and this works by the way I thought it was more fun personally when when I think when Mitt Romney was running, what it was or whenever it's the midterm and like they're gonna kill granny. And then you know the commercials of Republicans pushing an old granny in a wheelchair off the cliff that was great that was creative this is just... But of course as even CNN will point out this is all about the clips

09:54 So I totally take your point about him wanting this to be a vote in the light of day and not early in the morning, and about these stories to be playing out. But we all know how people consume information it's about clips. Now they are building a set of clips with all of these examples which I am sure we will see in various places to try to make these Republicans- That was that was the mashup. What with a mash-up she placed two lone clips or even one three Three it was three it was no good It was not a mash up this was nothing again rap that was from earlier because they had to have the intern do it because No, one wants to work early so they're hoping I get some stuff done around noon Will you so we can get it done then lives a little bit more difficult right? I think what happened

10:42 happens after the bill passes is that president and his allies have to say. sell the bill and Democrats have to continue what they've been doing. They have actually done a relatively good job... Again, it's not about the bill it's about the midterms! Despite their many challenges right now but Democrats have actually done a relatively good job of driving the message which is a fairly easy message drive that this is a tax cut for the rich that will take benefits away from the poor. Poor? selling that, it is showing up in polling. The president and his team have to figure out how to say no that's not it this is a working class tax cut and the thing about our information environment is going to take repetition for the Democrats it's gonna take repetition from President Trump and Republicans. President Trump does have the advantage of being sort of a broken record he's very good at repetition

11:39 And I was talking to a Republican consultant today who said, yeah you're going to hear him talking about this. A lot So it's so obvious what they want to do here because these things don't even go into effect until after the midterms So they're going, you're gonna be this is gonna be thrown at us day in day out. They're taking away your nutritional benefits! They're taking away your Medicaid! You're gonna die! Your health care! Your health care!" I mean we can discuss... We can talk uh..we can let the other side talk on NPR the New York Republican. I also did just go through the bill and not just the

12:24 the health care parts, but there's a lot of other interesting stuff in there. I'm sure there is more interesting stuff in it that they're never going to talk about? Oh yes! If you just want to understand the Medicaid provisions and man... There was so much, so many psyops going on The Democrats introduced some kind of crazy amendment that would keep illegals on on Medicaid and it was like, it was worded in a way that when the amendment got voted down. It looked like the Republicans wanted to have illegal immigrants on Medicaid and there were some... Like the former Newsweek lady what's her name? Baciviciabachi forget her name she was like I can't believe it!

13:13 I can't believe the Republicans want to have illegal immigrants on health care. And they fell for it, man! They fell for it... Well before you do your analysis, I have the clips from NPR Oh the one with the Republican from New York? No no okay all right now these are know I dude I have this I have four clips from NPR one is the update but then as followed by Three clips where they brought in experts to slam the bill. Slam it! Rail against it! And there was no, again on NPR There was no balance there was nobody on the other side saying well There's this... The good side is this and this No, no It was just slam, slam, slam, slam, slam. SLAM! You know? And by the way In between all that They keep playing this one NPR

14:07 missive about oh my god they're taking our money away They say that we're biased. Oh, oh, oh! In fact let's play this right off the bat to start this thing on. This public media funding lament. They play this every hour and on NPR The House of Representatives has approved a White House request to claw back two years of previously approved funding for public media. The rescissions package now moves onto the Senate. This move poses a serious threat to local stations and public media as we know it Please take a stand for public media today at goacpr.org Thank you Hey, do you have that xylophone still? Plum plumb plumb plumb plumb don't you have a xylophone somewhere here? I never had a xylophone I thought yeah or something Oh no! I know what you mean Yeah that little electronic device

15:01 that's very irritating. The batteries are dead, okay. The batteries are dead you know it just the way it goes yeah so they're playing this all supposedly 1% and but they're whining about this one percent okay what's the website address at the end? ACPR.org Go ACPR. That's not a... that was confusing, oh here it is. Public Radio is fighting to survive we need a... Oh! It just changed American Coalition for Public Radio. Oh go ace take action taking action

15:42 Public media is in jeopardy. Who are these guys? How's it in jeopardy? It's 1%. If they told us, it was one percent. Yes! So how does that make it in jeopardy? I'm taking action. I don't care what you say. I'm taking action. Dear Lawmaker, public radio brings music the arts and local culture into our homes we don't need any of that We got the internet. Got TikTok Cutting funding would erase programs that enrich your communities and support creative voices live Tick-tock people with blue hair, please protect the federal funding that makes this possible oppose rescission recession Recession what a hard word recession why was that in recession recession? The act of rescinding the cancellation of a contract to recession

16:35 That's not great marketing. Oppose recession today and save local, LOCAL public radio. See there... Oh you can submit a video message! Oooh! Yes! This is a break the glass moment! Says that? Yeah! Public Radio faces the biggest threat in its history 1% It's one percent they said so themselves Share a personalized message voicing your support now Oh just so you know The proposal to eliminate federal funding, including a new plan to rescind previously approved funding threaten to dismantle the very infrastructure that keeps 99% of Americans informed safe and connected.

17:22 I dispute that. I would say the internet keeps 99% of Americans misinformed, safe and connected. Yeah Anyway okay so well that was fun i'm glad you caught that So uh we can skip the update and go to the slams? Slam! Okay This will be BBB Update Slam 1. Policy bill passed the Senate, it's now being considered in the House It would cut trillions of dollars in taxes mostly for the well-off To help offset that... The Well Off! ...it would also make biggest cuts to social safety net in decades Is that a class? The Well Off? I haven't heard that term probably for 20 years The Well Off That is kind of interesting The Well Off You know, well to do yes? The rich? The Well Off

18:13 You're well off. Hey boy, you're well off. You mean like Brooke Gladstone who makes $370,000 a year just for hosting this American Life? Once-a-week show? No no it's not Brooke Gladstone that's... Is that Brooke Gladstone? No, Brooke Gladstone does the on the media Yeah yeah, Who does this American Life she makes three hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year just for hosting that show That's good money. It's great money policy that you want that 1% for you know what your when you have that kind of money well off is what I will off your well-off yes policy bill passed the Senate it's now being considered in the house if we cut trillions of dollars in taxes mostly for the well-off to help offset that it would also make the biggest cuts to the social safety net stop so if everybody's paying taxes

19:05 and taxes are cut by, let's say 2%, is going to benefit the richest people the most because they're paying the most taxes. It's just logical! Why are you trying to refute this? This is not even... I'm sorry for interrupting my own clip. It's beneath you. To things like food aid and PRS Jennifer Ludden is here to walk us through the latest high there Hi, Wanda. Jennifer NPR has reported a lot on changes to Medicaid which provides health care for some 70 million low-income elderly and disabled Americans That's you John Scaling it back has been controversial even among congressional Republicans Can you just briefly explain what is included in the Senate bill? Please

19:51 Right, and with the reminder as you said lawmakers in both chambers still have to agree on one version. But the Senate version would cut Medicaid spending even more than the House had by about a trillion dollars now it's mainly through a new requirement that people would have to work at least 80 hours a month unless they're exempt an overall... Stop! Okay, that's a lie. Must work, volunteer or attend school for at least 80 hours a month. That is not just must work so that is lying by omission I tell you!

20:27 By the way, yes. The House version which I have no idea what's going on here exempts parents of dependent children seniors and people with disabilities all you so your exempt that people would have to work at least 80 hours a month unless they're exempt and over all the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says this could package, could cause nearly 12 million people to lose health insurance over the next decade. So in my clips we'll get to the CBO which is of course a lot of people I want to turn to some of those cuts that haven't gotten as much attention like food benefits tell us what happened there yes so more than

21:06 40 million people get food stamps as they're known or SNAP, it's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It would lose 20% of its funding and that is the largest cut in its history now this is also partly from a change to its existing work requirement The Senate bill bumps up the age people have to work by a decade until age 60 and parents who used to be exempt would now have to work if their kids were 14 or older. Now as with Medicaid, one concern is that people would run into red tape trying to prove they're working The CBO estimates this change could push more than 2 million people off food aid. It's incredible what they're doing here

21:48 When I was 14, I was a latchkey kid. My mom worked my dad worked Oh boo-hoo oh if you're 14 year old kids Let them roam the streets like ragamuffins, like ruffians. Ragamuffin is another good one! Let them roam the streets... So you're getting the idea that this is not a balanced presentation? I think you're correct in that conclusion. This why they're getting their funding pulled because taxpayers should not be paying for biased presentations like this I bitch about this constantly. To be fair, the clips that I have from NPR do represent the other side even though the host is hemming and hawing throughout it! Well there's a difference between finding what you found and somebody just making a straight up presentation with no pushback. Yes. In other words...

22:43 It's biased. It's unlike Fox News. It's not giving us any perspective whatsoever, but... Fox News is fair and balanced! And Fox News is not much better But I don't think Fox News takes government money Maybe they do? Who knows? Well, not that I know of either yes you might be right okay onward Now a couple more things on food aid. The spending package makes it harder for states to waive these work requirements and conservatives have long argued that it's just too easy, you've got entire states where they're waived the Senate bill says you could only get a waiver if you live in a place with an unemployment rate above 10% so quite high And finally for the first time the federal government would not pay for all food aid most States would have to chip-in which sounds like a really big change for states

23:28 It's tied to how much states have over or underpaid for SNAP. Researchers say these error rates are mostly unintentional, but it would mean that most states would now have to pick up between 5 and 15 percent of food aid costs. The Kibbeburg and the Left-Leaning Center on Budget and Policy Priorities says this undermines the whole guarantee that people in need should get food aid no matter where they live. And she says if states faced a budget crunch, they might shrink their SNAP program or even opt out altogether. So this is really a proposal that fundamentally changes the structure of SNAP jeopardizes food assistance for millions of low-income families This is the same as you won't have access to vaccines it's exactly the same thing

24:13 And saying healthcare is like healthcare insurance, it's payment for healthcare. You can get healthcare you can go in any emergency room you will not be turned away unfortunately this is a very contentious points. What do you mean unfortunately? You want people dropping dead in the streets? Well, if you know I speak to firefighters all the time and they are obligated on it at a 911 call to go and help these people regard it's by law regardless of what it is and this like well um no I need an aspirin and you know it's literally could you grab my cigarettes from the table there I'm too obese to get up

24:51 And if it is anything beyond what they have in their kit, I don't even think they can give them an aspirin. They have to take them to the emergency room that is enshrined in state law everywhere That's the problem. That is a one of many problems. Firefighters know this and while doing their job they get shot at and killed so this is dandy And could end SNAP as a nationwide program Jennifer, I want to ask you about something that got quite a bit of attention for reducing poverty temporarily during the coronavirus pandemic which is the federal child tax credit Any big changes there?

25:30 I guess though not as big as some were calling for during the 2024 election, including now Vice President J.D. Vance The Senate bill does boost the tax credit from $2,000 per child to 2200 and that would rise with inflation But unlike during the pandemic lawmakers did not expand this to include the lowest income families And currently they don't qualify for that full credit because they just don't earn enough And also, Snap had a huge industry lobby against proposed changes. I have not seen... Well if I saw it didn't stick with me The carbonated drinks, fizzy drinks the Coca-Colas of the world put together a huge lobby against taking soft drinks off of Snap

26:20 Which is kind of a logical thing that no, you shouldn't be able to buy this with your supplemental nutrition payments. Yeah, you shouldn't be buying cola. And in fact I don't think we talked about it much if at all but they had a huge influencer campaign which included a lot of conservative podcasters and influencers who all took money to say oh no no you shouldn't do this really we need to have this on snap. What? I'm paraphrasing yeah it was a huge thing And then a couple got outed and then all these other conservative, right-leaning influencers and podcasters went, yeah I'm really sorry. I took that money. I shouldn't have done that. Then it was thousands of dollars in some cases. Oh yeah this is the dirty side of politics. That's a scandal what you just said! Yeah well... Podcasters selling out

27:15 What? Gambling. All right, slam three. Yeah. Sophie Collier is with the Center on Poverty and Social Policy at Columbia University and she says for her this really reflects the overall tilt of this tax spending package in favor of the wealthy even this small provision that it's going to have meant families is not reaching the children and families where it could do the most good. Where that $200 actually could be more meaningful. Jennifer, I'll let you have the last word here anything else we should note?

27:51 Yes, another key change to the child tax credit at least one parent now would need a social security number and Collier says by one estimate that could disqualify 2.6 million children who are US citizens or lawful permanent residents And I should just add there are provisions in the package that would also cut federal health care and food benefits for some immigrants with legal status Alright, so that's really what it comes down to. Most of this is blue states I'll just run through it quickly So yes adults age 19-64 enrolled in Medicaid through the Affordable Care Act expansion which was the expansion to states

28:31 You have to work, volunteer or attend school for at least 80 hours if you're eligible and exemptions are pregnant women, caregivers of children under 14 etc. Here's a big one the states will have to verify compliance every 30 days well we can't have that Then we have the CBO estimate savings, which you can take or leave. Increased eligibility redetermination so that's the verifying ACA expansion enrollees see the state's got all this extra money

29:07 to expand Medicare and they gave it Medicaid, and they gave it mostly to illegal immigrants. And that's what this is cutting out. So now the states will have to impose a copayment of $35. Okay? I'm not downplaying 35 dollars as being a lot or not but it's hardly you're dead. Then the bill Limit states ability to impose taxes on health care providers. I'm not quite sure whose side that comes from or what that's about, i'm not sure that's probably just a screw Democrat States no doubt Then there are new requirements include monthly verification to ensure providers aren't excluded from other state Medicaid programs because there is a lot of double dipping going on

30:02 And then there's the specific restrictions, gender affirming care, Planned Parenthood etc. So that's really what is in there about Medicaid. And if you look, well to be fair and to be fair and balanced let's get the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez version of this big beautiful bill. President Trump You're either being lied to or you are lying to the American people This bill represents in the text of this bill the largest and greatest loss of health care in American history. 17 million Americans will lose their healthcare. This is great, I mean it's always been 11, I've heard 12 but AOC has 17 now. It started actually around 5

30:56 Somebody documented a jacking up every time somebody next guy talks they top the last one. This is great history and she was she was swinging her hips and she was getting mad 17 million Americans will lose their health care on this bill not undocumented people not quote-unquote the disgusting term illegal but seventeen million disgusting term illegal what since why is that disgusting? Why is that disgusting because no person can be illegal. Oh, that's right nope. No human people. No human is legal. No human can be illegal quote the disgusting term illegal but 17 million Americans will have their health care cut from this bill on this point

31:44 of tax on tips as one of the only people in this body who has lived off of tips I want to tell you a little bit about the scam. That's pretty telling if that's true, if she is the only person in this body who lived on tips Let's face reality that's probably not true but but I'd like to know how the Democrats when they turned down a dime on this have suddenly forgotten that Kamala made a big stink about yes, no tax on tips. She introduced it to her platform the Democrats accepted as a platform item but now they're pushing back on it? What so you're telling me they were insincere earlier I think so! By the way the bill just passed the house only people in this body who has lived off of tips

32:32 But I guess the reason we're doing this is so that people understand, because this doesn't come into effect until December of 2026. So and that's for a reason This is all going to be midterm jockeying for position. Yeah it's fodder It's total fodder As one of the only people in this body who has lived off of tips I want to tell you a little bit about the scam of that text, a little bit of the fine print there. The cap on that is $25,000. That's true! That is the cap on taxing your tips up to $25,000. She has that number correct?

33:10 while you're jacking up taxes on people who make less than $50,000 across the United States. That I don't see. I don't see where people making less than fifty thousand dollars will be paying more in taxes. I have not seen that. Well, first I've heard of it. While taking away their SNAP, while taking away their Medicaid, while kicking them off of the ACA and their health care extensions... No! at home and you're living off tips, you do the math. Hold on! Get your calculator. I gotta do the math! You're not allowed to do your own math and research! Is that worth it to you? Losing all of your health care, not able to feed your babies, not being able to put a diaper on their bottom... It specifically says if you have babies or one on the way, you're not going to get kicked off anything so thats just not true. That's a lie! Losing all of your health care, not being

34:08 being able to put a diaper on their bottom in exchange for what? This bill is By the way, okay first let me just back up because I've read most of this not all but I've read most of it. The important parts I think I've got so we'll see this. It explodes our national debt! Actually it reduces our national debt and I think I can show that over 10 years and of course there's a big piece of it where we're gonna grow faster than the debt. Okay, sure okay with President Trump maybe? Maybe I don't know. It militarizes our entire economy Yes that is correct it will militize our entire economy and that is what every economy in the world is doing right now because

35:01 The green new deal. So when I go to the Monterey Foods to buy mushrooms... That's you militarizing! I'm militarizing the mushroom grower? What are you talking about?! No, there is a lot of money for military-industrial complex. She said entire economy. But this 30 million people minimum in this deal now so she's not Exaggerating? But there is some truth to it. The whole world is... That's our new industrial base! Yeah, well dude, gee and this is new?! Well no! Economy and it strips away healthcare and basic dignity of the American people for what!? No, it doesn't strip away. To give Elon Musk a tax break? What?? This Elon Musk hates the bill

35:51 Elon Musk says it's a five trillion dollar spending bill he's gone all the way but it was two trillion three trillion now you know I must is five trillion dollars do the math at home people to give my calculator doesn't go to trillion hold on a minute she's basically not keeping tabs on the political situation as Elon Musk. No! Big mistake this is a big mis- she should have said Eva even Elon Musk is embarrassed that's what she should have said. She should've gone with that yeah or mentioned some other evil person that you know gets getting the tax but did Trump family or anything Elon Musk yeah Fox News exit the Murdoch's anything I'm sorry there are side of the American people for what to give Elon Musk a tax

36:45 break and billionaires the greedy taking of our nation we cannot stand for it and we will not support it you know be ashamed all right so I'm gonna play these quick clips here this is the New York representative Mike Lawler, I didn't even know New York had a Republican representing them but they do apparently. And he goes on NPR and he says you know CBO is wrong. Over the next decade we're projected to spend 86 trillion dollars as a country federal government and we're talking about 1.6 trillion in savings over the course of the 10 years that amounts to about one point eight percent

37:29 of overall spending. So, you know as we start to bend the curve with two trillion dollar deficits... I love this! You know everybody's bending it like Beckham we're not reducing the deficit we're bending the curve you see bending the curve, so he's trying to this is like a kind of take on flattening the curve. So now they're going to bend the curve. Of overall spending. As we start to bend the curve with two trillion dollar deficits You know, everybody—Republicans and Democrats need to get serious about tackling our debt. It's a trillion in debt. Let me just jump in here. The Congressional Budget Office found that this spending bill would add roughly $3 trillion to the deficit over the next decade so do you mind are you concerned about growing the nation-state? It sounds like you are what should be done

38:19 So, CBO has consistently been wrong in its pronouncements including seven years ago when they undercut revenue by a trillion dollars on the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act which we now know has produced the largest revenue that the federal government has ever seen. The question is how do we start to right-size are spending, where we're running two trillion dollar deficits. And what you're seeing is over 10 years, a reduction in spending by $1.6 trillion dollars You're going to see economic growth 2-3-4 percent By the way two three four percent is there's 100% difference those numbers so two to four is a big difference but okay For the life of the bill which is going to be critical

39:18 grow our economy and start to move things in the right direction, reducing our deficits and reining in our debt. This is a big challenge and something that's going to require both parties just to really focus on this coming decade. are gonna die. I want to just jump in here because earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that you've been discussing including those around health care and Medicaid. Wow, did she talk? Hold on back it off! She's very animated. She is a fast talker yes this is Juana Summers. Juana Summers bring back you know Scott Simon being inducted into the Radio Hall of Fame

39:56 Did you know that? What?! First diction. I don't know, let's go back where were we... I want to just jump in here because earlier you mentioned some of the concerns that you've been discussing including those around health care and Medicaid and there are estimates according to CBO that maybe they're all doing coke at NPR these days i don't know this possible 12 million people will lose health care coverage including Medicaid coverage. 15! If this bill becomes law, Congressman Lawler given that roughly a quarter of the people in your district in New York some 200 000 are on medicaid that's according to KFF. I'm gonna die Are you concerned about what the cuts enshrined in this legislation would mean to the people who live in your district? Please

40:35 Again, let's actually focus what is in the bill and not what is the Democrat talking point. The fact that you have eligibility verification making sure people who are not supposed to be collecting Medicaid benefits are no longer receiving those benefits that they're not entitled to. Second is citizenship verification, to make sure that illegal immigrants are not collecting Medicaid benefits right now you have 1.4 million illegal immigrants collecting Medicaid benefits that is wrong fundamentally and third is work requirements you have nearly 4 million people who are able-bodied adults

41:13 without dependent children who are refusing to work. They should be trying to get a job, to get employment, to go to school or to volunteer upwards of 80 hours a month that's about 20 hours a work week get into the workforce, participate in the workforce and ultimately help themselves. They may be able to get a employer based health care plan long term or be able to purchase on the open market but the objective here is to sustain this program for the long term for those who need it and those who are eligible for it. She's just all like last one And you have seen and this is important even with these changes

42:01 Medicaid spending is going to go up 24% over the next decade. What? 24%. So when we're talking about how to strengthen the system, this is not about gutting the system This is about protecting it for those who need it But its not all that It's all about the midterms Would you like to hear a few other things in this big beautiful bill that just passed Just a quick little rundown as we have done so often on The No Agenda Show which your NPR local station will NOT do What?! I'm saying yes. Ships, big beautiful ships! Ships? Yeah right off the top baby 250 million dollars for ships that's nothing ships well it's gonna be tiny ships but they'll be beautiful ships they gotta be pretty tiny because that did some of those

42:50 New class ships. But wait, there's $450 million for additive manufacturing for wire production and machining capacity for shipbuilding industrial base? $492 million for next generation shipbuilding techniques 85 techniques. I got a technique for you. Wow, 500 is a scam 500 million for the adoption of advanced manufacturing techniques in the shipbuilding industry is a lot of money for it so basically oh there's another Oh this is good 4.6 billion four second Virginia-class submarines in 2026 one year five point four billion for additional guided missile destroyer ships

43:35 Then we have a billion dollars for the border, for deployment of military personnel. And we have 1.142 and half billion for the Coast Guard side. That is a good question! Yes Trump shut the border down. There's nobody coming over well We're still gonna spend forty six point five billion dollars for the wall, but don't worry Mexico is paying for that one so we can just put that aside so wait with nobody's coming over as we speak Yeah I'm just so why are we spending any more money than we then? We're currently spending because it seems to be working Just fine The way it is sound expenditures that are currently being used

44:14 to stop the people from coming over because they're not coming over at all. It sounds like a jobs program, because it's construction installation access roads barrier system etc here's my favorite gee what are the chances that you'd have... And by the way since I what i did my point that I just made why don't the Democrats make that point? Because uh the only thing they have is you're gonna die I think is, I don't think that's the reason. Because to make that point they have to admit that Biden could've done the same thing Yeah well there is your good point

44:57 Guess what's in here? What did we hear for the past two months. Oh, oh no Newark Airport! Oh no, fiber optics yeah I see 4.7 billion dollars for telecommunications infrastructure 3 billion, 3 billion, I'm sorry yes three billion for radar systems 500 million for runway safety technologies. Whatever that is... It's a guy with an orange vest! No, it's a guy with a horn telling the birds to get off the runway 1.9 billion for necessary actions to construct a new air route traffic control center

45:39 Woo! So now you see how it works. That is the sausage being made, create a big fuss about something that all of our air traffic controllers say, eh, it's been that way forever we work around it nine times a day but okay I'm sure everybody's happy I'm not against it obviously but the PSYOP was mean Gas and oil leases. So we got a lot of like the Gulf of America, Gulf of America leases for oil coal mining Access to coal reserves in adjacent state or private land without authorization could not be mined economically. Federal coal reserves located in federal lands subject to a mining plan previously approved, timber on public domain forest reserves will be sold off." There's an amount here 250 million board feet. Ooh! Renewable energy this is fun 100%

46:41 Fees for solar energy generation facility and 10% for wind generation. So if you are selling your land or leasing your land for solar panels, you will have a fee of 100 percent...of something We're going to up the petroleum reserve The American Science Cloud! This is my favorite Transformational Artificial Intelligence Models Yeah baby We are the cloud means a system of United States government academic and private sector programs and infrastructure utilizing cloud computing technologies to facilitate and support scientific research. Dad, I thought we were cutting off all research? Well no turns out the American science cloud will be a thing

47:29 Then we do have a lot of things for... That sounds like a boondoggle. But that's for all the tech bros, that's what they got Everyone gets something in this Not us What about the podcasting provisions? I haven't seen it Committee on Environment and Public Works So recession of funding for clean heavy-duty vehicles Goodbye Repeal of greenhouse gas reduction fund. Goodbye. Recession of funding for diesel emissions reductions, goodbye. Recession of funding to address air pollution. Recession of funding to address air pollution at schools! What? Yeah. What's with air pollution in schools? Suck it up kids there is air pollution everywhere you might die. Recession of funding for the low-emissions electricity program oops

48:20 Recession of funding for section 211 of the Clean Air, it just goes on and on. So this is all taking away the Green New Deal Then we have a child tax credit which will be tied to a Social Security number This is so now for every kid you get a... How does a tax credit not get tied to a social security number? I'm gonna ask you right now When we have a Democrat president in Congress then It's just that's a free-for-all I guess So that goes to... A tax credit is a credit on your income taxes, am I not mistaken? Yeah but you know. And don't you have to have a social security number even file? No! That's not true as an illegal immigrant you can get a tax ID number which is not a social security number Okay it's good point good point you got it so this is tied specifically the SSN and it's going to be $2200 per child

49:15 Let me see. Oh, here you go John! Good news! Extension and enhancement of increased estate and gift tax exemption amounts This is what the billionaires get So you can now leave... You were allowed to leave $5 million dollars to your heirs But you of course need the higher amount of 15 million so that's good That really affects me Here kid, there's a watch. Good luck with it! I got a watch. At least you're under the number. No tax on tips for any taxable year shall not exceed $25,000 low ceiling for no tax on overtime that will be...shall not exceed twelve and a half thousand

50:02 Then we have the Trump accounts. Hold on a second, there's another thing I'm complaining about yeah They were saying that there was gonna be no tax on tips No tax on overtime and no tax on Social Security Yeah, but they've screwed this oldsters under social security thing What happened to that? What happened to that? I think actually get to that down a little bit further It's not too much further what I have The Trump accounts, that I think is the baby bonus. And...I don't even see an amount here. Oh it's... Baby Bonus? It doesn't say. Oh! I like this one. Spaceports and airports. Spaceports will be treated like airports under exempt facility bond rules

50:54 I'm not sure what that means. Space ports? Well, these guys are getting pretty aggressive with saying things... That's a...I think that is actually a Bezos and Musk benefit, I think but i'm not sure Oh yeah when they put their spaceports up will be real So here here's one that got in there that for some reason no one's talking about Excise tax based on investment income of private colleges and universities. Hey now! Tax imposed, hereby impose the tax on each applicable educational institution Harvard Columbia etc for the taxable year a tax equal to the applicable percentage of the net investment come income of such institution

51:42 1.4% in the case of an institution with a student adjusted endowment of at least half a million, not in excess of $750,000 4%, in the case of an institution within student adjusted endowment and excessive 750 not to exceed 2 million And 8%. In case of the institution with the students just a dominant X in excess of two million So sounds that's the big boys. Yes, it sounds like all the big boys all of a sudden went from no tax to 8% I can't imagine why they're mad at Trump well Well again, I think you do your original point which is why hasn't anyone said anything about this because they can bitch and moan Because they're in there in the fund. There's something I think it has to do with

52:36 whining about their situation. It sounds like they're, you know it's like NPR whining about losing their 1%. It draws attention to the problem. That's a good point Vetting of sponsors, this is good. So if we're going to the Office of Refugee Resettlement... so if you can have kids a very long time I'm not gonna read all of it but they will have to vet the sponsors for unaccompanied alien children? Yes in other words Ending that is what's doing We're ending that nonsense

53:13 You're ending the vetting? No, we're ending the not... people weren't vetted. Yeah no they were just giving them to pimps! Yeah so we're ending that nonsense now these people will be... The coyotes then we have asylum fee here we go in addition any other fee authorized by law if you want a request and file for asylum you will pay $100 That doesn't... Ah, nickel and diming them to death. And if you want to be paroled into the U.S., that will cost you $1,000. So it's setting a bar. You can get citizenship for 5 million if you buy one of those gold cards. I wonder if that's in there? Um, I haven't seen it yet.

53:59 And then there's extension of radioactive leukemia related to atmospheric atom bomb tests. So we're going to pay people some, some money for that as well as people who were kind of screwy were harmed from uranium mining and those are the things that we just have off the bat with some help from one of our producers I will add he categorized it. No, I appreciate that but it seems to me the leukemia from atmospheric testing would have been already resolved by now. Well, apparently not! I know no offense but i think you'd be dead well because that was in the 50s yeah well apparently not so anyway there's a lot of things in here and your right none of this was discussed it is all about your gonna die and we have family members who believe this

54:53 who believe that Trump himself is taking away their Medicaid. And one of these family members absolutely cannot work, cannot volunteer, is not mobile... You know? So it's like no you'll be okay! You'll be okay! But we're gonna be thrown to death with this stuff. The Republicans should bring back the granny over the cliff bit I thought that was fun Well they are not creative anymore No they are not I think that's it. I think we're done with that topic, so it passed now everyone is going to be out there. Yeah just pass now!

55:35 So I thought, I was wondering because they know they had a bunch of guys in the fence and Trump. I guess it had to promise a bunch of executive orders too very specific. Oh, I'm sure I'm sure Congress people that he would do this and that for them if they just get this out of the way And so they got it out of the way okay good It's about time now you know now they can talk about something else they've been incessantly discussing this on public radio for one thing, and it makes it very difficult to find clips on other interesting things. Like the fact that Jaguar lost 95% of its sales after it ran those stupid ads with the transgender androgynous people. You know what's funny? Because that meme came back around and I thought everyone already saw the ad

56:24 Was it did they report numbers? Is that why they reported numbers. They only sold 26 cars in Europe in April It's also a crap car, and the advertising agency saying I don't get it Makes no sense! It was a great ad Yeah so I'll let you go for a bit and then I have other stuff to dive into. Well, let's go for a bit with my thesis about mom dying. Yes, the New Yorker and I've summarized your thesis from the newsletter if you're not subscribed to the newsletter You are missing out on some good quality content And memes

57:11 And the thesis that you drew up on the previous no agenda episode was that this is the populist, the Democrat version of a populist candidate saying all the things that the Democrats want to hear. And of course, the more outrageous the things are—this is the Trump model. The more outrageous those things are... I mean no one even could pronounce let alone spell his name until all the outrageousness and coverage on all sides of the political news spectrum. Mandami! Mandani!

57:51 Mom, mom, mommy. So yes the thesis is that this is Trump's playbook from 2015, 2016. Which by the way indirectly is Putin's playbook and Hitler's playbook so I'm just saying... There are a lot of playbooks involved but i'm talking about the publicity playbook where you get a lot of free publicity for being outrageous and saying crazy things and getting the other side worked up! And this is the problem that we've had. We had these guys getting all worked up and I want to play the thing that triggered this week's workup which was in last Meet the presses where he she asked him three times and I have all three clips to rebuke The comment they about worldwide into FADA And he beats around the bush, and he got nutted Fox has played these clips over and like every show over it's like idiot like the idiots. They are

58:55 at Fox and here we go. I'm gonna play these, this is Mom Donnie in infotonic clips with our buddy Kristen Welker, Manhands Welker and she's gonna try to get him to say things. Oh hold on do i have the yes hold on a second This is Intifada 1. Yeah, I got it You were recently asked about the term globalize the intifada if it makes you uncomfortable in that moment you did not condemn the phrase now just so folks understand It's a phrase that many people hear as a call to violence against Jews There's been a lot of attention on this issue So I want to give you an opportunity To respond here and now do you condemn that phrase? Globalized the intifada

59:37 That's not language that I use. The language that I use and the language that i will continue to use to lead this city is that which speaks clearly to my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief in universal human rights. And ultimately that's what is the foundation of so much of my politics- the belief that freedom and justice and safety are things that have meaning have to be applied to all people and that includes Israelis and Palestinians as well. Well it's not that bad of an answer But he didn't condemn it, so she's now on it and is thinking well wait a minute. He didn't answer my question so I'm gonna be a hot shot journalist and ask him again! Yeah! Do you actually condemn it? I think that's the question and the outstanding issue that a number of people both in the Jewish faith

1:00:20 beyond have. Do you condemn that phase, globalize the intifada which a lot of people hear as a call to violence against Jews? I've heard from many Jewish New Yorkers who have shared their concerns with me especially in light of the horrific attacks that we saw in Washington DC and in Boulder Colorado about... Did he say Colder Ball-orado? That's kind of cool He wanted to say colder ballderado. In Washington D C and in Boulder Colorado about this moment of anti-Semitism in our country and in our city. And I've heard those fears, and I've had those conversations, and ultimately they are part and parcel of why in my campaign I put forward a commitment to increase funding for anti-hate crime programming by 800%. I don't believe that the role of the mayor is to police speech

1:01:08 Oh, you know I can see he's tricky. He's a he's good. He's good. I think he's really good Yeah And here we go so okay now says she's the journalist who asked the same question twice You got no answer from me Let's do it again. Let's try for number three quickly for the people who care about the language and who feel Really concerned by that phrase why not just condemn it? My concern is to start to walk down the line of language and making clear what language I believe is permissible or impermissible takes me into a place similar to that Of the president who was looking to do those very kinds of things putting people in jail for writing an op-ed Putting them in jail for protesting ultimately. It's not language that I use it's like I understand there are concerns about

1:01:59 And what I will do is showcase my vision for the city through my words and my action. Hold on, surely the next question was What journalist was put in jail for writing an op-ed? Yeah, no. Do you know? Do you know by any chance? No there's none of that... None have been put in jail they did lose their case CBS bailed out and gave Trump 16 million it could go up to 30 I have that clip if you want to hear it yeah let's play that before we finish this off CBS parent company Paramount Global will shell out $16 million to President Trump to settle a lawsuit waged over a 60 minutes interview with then Vice President Kamala Harris that aired weeks before the presidential election.

1:02:46 unfair advantage. Kamala was unable to answer a question properly and they took the question that they asked and they inserted an answer in his lawsuit Trump accused the network of misleading voters with quote deceitful editing of Harris's answer to a question on whether the US has any sway over Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu but it seems as reflected by the raw interview posted by 60 minutes well Well Bill, the program Face The Nation used a longer portion at the beginning of Harris's response while 60 Minutes used a shorter portion. We're not going to stop that came at the end of that same response to accommodate time restraints

1:03:28 CBS said Trump's claims were false and the interview was not doctored. Paramount Settlement does not include an apology or any regret, and the settlement money will go toward Trump's future presidential library—not the president himself. Sorry! Not sorry! You know what I just realized? I don't even remember what that question was about... It was something about whether Israel controls US policy. Was that the question? I don't remember either. I have to go back and listen to that. Since we just played that, might as well play my CBS Caves To Trump. This is the NPR version of what you just played. Press rights groups are denouncing the parent company of CBS for agreeing to pay President Trump's future library $16 million dollars

1:04:12 NPR's David Folkenflik reports Trump had sued CBS over the way 60 Minutes edited an interview with then-Vice President Kamala Harris. Trump's lawyers said the segment constituted electoral interference, outside legal observers say his case had no merit that the First Amendment covers such editorial choices His legal team says Trump has held the fake news media accountable for their wrongdoing and deceit Paramount needs approval from Trump's regulators to sell the company in an $8 billion deal. The lawsuit is hardly a one and done for the president, the agreement appears modeled on a past settlement from The Walt Disney Company, the corporate parent of ABC News over anchor George Stephanopoulos' imprecise statements about legal findings against Trump. Trump is still suing the Des Moines Register over a poll last year, and he recently threatened the New York Times and CNN with prosecution for their reporting

1:05:05 Yeah, yeah. I'm a little... torn He'll come for the podcasters next people Well, the ones who are getting paid off by Coca-Cola. Yeah they should So we go back to Mom Donnie He refuses to answer that question which I believe he will eventually say no yeah I always meant that because he's gonna pull a Trump in every way can and i think it's going to win the election the way they've got set up with their rank voting which is just a disaster

1:05:41 Can I just ask you one question going back to CBS? The First Amendment clearly, I mean, I know this was a civil suit but the First Amendment clearly states that you cannot create any law against the press whatever they want. If they want to write your...I mean there's slander, there are different provisions but there wasn't-the only reason for this is because they want the Paramount merger to go through correct I think that's one of the reasons they settled, but i think they also had a weak case. This wasn't about free speech this was about election law violation okay all right yeah because the equal time equals something rule no not equal time it's just fairness you can't meddling in an election in some unfair way that is uh... what CBS did was illegal the way i see it

1:06:41 But I could be wrong, I'm not a lawyer. But let's get back to Mom Donnie. So he makes these comments and gets everybody bent out of shape so I'm trying to find... And it's on, I'm watching Outnumbered in this three-cliffing. Oh my goodness! Do you have too much time? What happened to sumo wrestling?! It's only every other month and there is a new tournament coming up this month. Luckily we can't have you watching Outnumbered There's good stuff on Outnumbered because it is highly structured. They had Marie Harf on, your buddy! Oh, Marie Harf... So Marie Harf is on and she always plays the devil's advocate She's a Democrat of the bar Yeah she was a Democrat spokeshole And so she comes as the foil they always try to bring somebody with them

1:07:34 perspective Fox does this better you know that CNN does with the one guy was whatever his name is well Brooks and Capehart yeah in bright PBS doesn't do it at all obviously no but so they had Marie Harfan and she and it so I finally found an example of not now I'm just switching my thought process, a dimensionality to flip it from Trump to Mamdani and the way people were reacting to Trump when he first showed up with the Trump derangement syndrome we have Mamdani derangement syndrome. And you have the Trump supporters in the early days that were defending him against all this crazy stuff they were throwing at him. And that's what Marie Harf does, she is on board with Mom Don. She understands it, she knows the playbook. But she doesn't understand it to the extent I do. Oh wow! Shes not seeing it as using Trumps playbook at all, shes actually seeing it as a true believer

1:08:37 and she's buying, this is just classic. This is classic to listen to her so here she is They ask her about, they're all blasting this guy. They're out of control and you'll hear some pieces of that in here. Everybody on the show is oh this is the worst thing that could ever happen! John Yoo was on there going Oh my God! And Emily is nuts over this guy. Oh Jesus it's the end of the world! It's all the same thing that was goin' on with Trump and so we have Marie Harf who's the voice of reason but not just not gonna work here we go

1:09:14 Here's why I think this is an interesting look into his campaign. He was unknown as of six months or a year ago, right? He is a new candidate who has tapped into energy and concerns about cost-of-living things that you mentioned he has repeatedly said he abhors anti-semitism increasing hate crime, anti-hate crime funding by 800 percent that's real. That will help in New York and don't take my word for it prominent Jewish New Yorkers Jerry Nadler Brad Lander they have said, they've endorsed him... You're talking politicians who want their party to be an office irrespective of anything that they believe in

1:09:50 Are you questioning Jerry Nadler or Brad Landers? 100%! Wow, I wouldn't question anyone's commitment to their faith. The same way that i would question Chuck Schumer who works against the interests of his own people at times for the politics and that is what they are doing here. Let me finish what im saying here prominent Jewish New Yorker have said they have met with him, they believe he abhors antisemitism and will help New York do better condemn a globalized antipathos. I think that he should be more sensitive to the context in which many people hear that language and i think he should condemn it but i think that painting him with a brush, because he won't, because his wordsmithy, because he doesn't want to censor everything else he said about condemning anti-semitism. I think we should just coin it MDS right now mom Donnie derangement syndrome yes great

1:10:41 I don't understand why everybody's not spotting this as the exact, this is an analog of Trump. Well they have to get up early for this show you know you and i we just lounge around we get up around 8 30. You know what I'm talking about in general? This is all day on Fox! I just happened to catch Harf because she represents She represents the party pretty much. Here she is, now she's gonna get into it with some other people I think this is Emily starting off and then they get a little argument going Jewish leaders saying he is good for their community. Not everybody, no but a lot I think that matters too and i don't think he's an anti-semi. I don't see three people being a lot but we can get back into it another time so the number of jewish new yorkers who voted for him in the primary was not small maybe one in five two and five jewish new yorkers will yeah we're still getting data here that's not a small number of Jews i don't think you should discount their feelings on this either. I'm not discounting their feelings they're voters they can vote in there interest or

1:11:44 I would say this, if they're really concerned Emily about affordability in the city why did they live for the last four years with no protest against all of the illegal aliens that came in and soaked up more than a billion dollars each year plus while Biden was in office. While they had Democrats in majority here? What a great question! Look, I'll just be candid... No You know it's interesting because here in Fredericksburg The conversation is ongoing. They have MDS here and like, New York is lost! This is crazy! One of our biggest most beautiful cities that... Hey you live in Texas! Beautiful city? Are you kidding me?! You live in Texas who cares who why do you care did you plan a vacation to Broadway no

1:12:37 The MDS is working. It's working, it's working! Yeah it's working great so here is the last clip where she tries to get some more information out there she's trying to defend this again if we reverse this and go back to the Trump time where you had the pro-Trumpers trying to convince people, yeah he's harsh. Yeah he does cuss a lot but his language is harsh but... But..but.... And so we have the same thing right now with this guy here we go The people that Mondami is preaching too are ultra-rich in this city some of them have even said they may leave Now I don't know how you square that You're gonna vote for the guy and then you might think about taking your square of moneyness someplace else

1:13:21 I don't know how that works out. My square of money? Moneyness! Oh, my square of money-ness? Yeah she was like... I've never heard this. It's because it just came off the top her head and she is trying to slam the guy and she's failing. Railing against him! That wasn't a fail. You're going to vote for the guy then you might think about taking your square of money some place else. I don't know how that works out But you're talking about affordability and you bring it up, Emily. How can you have that conversation but the people who would benefit from more affordability didn't vote for you? What do they see about you that they don't like? What about all of the anti-Muslim hate that has been spewed at him? We should also condemn that! The horrible things we could do to him! Let me step in on that. Did you see the video from over the weekend? Those are people who had gone to support him at his rally

1:14:15 And he said something akin to what I said to you, no Jewish state but Israel can stay with different people in it or a wider spectrum. Let's condemn hatred of all kinds though equally. They thought that didn't go far enough look at the video it's fascinating alright we're gonna move. Alright we gotta move, it was fascinating man you get extra bonus points for watching that crap. That's crap! I actually like this show. I can't stand it You don't like anything. I like lots of negative persons, a very positive person when it comes to other things. But the point is made by making that this is the point I'm going to make him sticking with no evidence to the contrary that this is all not just a complete populist and the thing is this is worldwide populous movement

1:15:01 And he's showing the Democrats how to do it. Yes! And they should be paying attention because he is doing it the right way He is... and he'll come out of it fine, probably will get the mayorship and nothing really will change much It won't be worse than de Blasio No But I think you're absolutely right, and he is doing it. He's doing just like Trump where he's using wordsmithing, very fine people... It's all his own version of it! I have to admit that you've nailed on this. No, I want to admit, I'm happy to admit that's why there are two of us. This is good. Very good.

1:15:45 Here's a little gambit playing out. The timing is remarkable, this is ABC. A new setback for Ukraine the US is pausing some weapons shipments to- My crane? Ukraine! His crane her crane you crane! A new setback for Ukraine the US is pausing some weapons shipments to the country after Pentagon review reportedly found certain us stockpiles were too low officials are not saying what weapons are being held back but pentagon insists this is not affecting the readiness of the u s military Ukraine has been struggling to fend off some of the biggest Russian attacks, all the war and peace talks have ground to a halt. So that's ABC remarkably France Vancoutra does have the list of low stockpiles and has something different to say And what looks to be a severe blow to Ukraine's war effort Washington says it will pause arms deliveries to kill

1:16:37 NBC and the New York Times report that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth made the decision because of concerns about the US military stockpile. Hegseth had ordered a review of the Army's munitions inventory, which has been depleted after three years supplying weapons to Ukraine and carrying out military operations in the Middle East Among the weapons likely to be delayed are Patriot interceptors, 155mm howitzer munitions, Hellfire missiles, GMLRS missile systems and Stinger surface-to-air missiles. Just this week Ukraine's foreign minister said Kiev had been asking Washington for more deliveries A halt in deliveries would hamper Ukraine's abilities to defend its cities from Russian drone and missile attacks

1:17:20 and also impede its own precision strikes against Russian targets. Sources say the deliveries being paused were scheduled for several months from now, but there are fears in Kiev that suspension will be a sign to Moscow that Ukraine's support from the West is compromised So this is hilarious because this comes right on the heels of the 5% NATO increase. Okay, three and a half percent. Oh interesting well I have... Wait wait wait! Before you go on but there's... I have the NTD version of same report But there's a payoff-I have the payoff Well, I'll tell you what. I want to hear you. The payoff should go last! Okay i got your NTD right here. Here we go. The U.S confirms that it is pausing some weapons shipments to Ukraine but officials stopped short of confirming reports saying that air defense missiles are mostly affected by the halt

1:18:08 Entity's international correspondent, Arjen Postar has the latest. This capability review and that is exactly what it is a capability review being conducted to ensure US military aid align with our defense priorities. The Pentagon on Wednesday confirmed that the U.S. is currently pausing some weapons shipments to Ukraine A senior Ukrainian lawmaker previously called Washington's decision, quote painful for Kievs efforts to defend against Russian airstrikes. The attacks have intensified in recent weeks the Pentagon was asked whether this review would embolden Russia the spokesman replied that the capability review aims to make sure America is strong which benefits the entire globe

1:18:52 Our job here at the Department of Defense is to pursue the President's America First agenda and make sure that we achieve peace through strength throughout the world. The State Department on Wednesday echoing that sentiment, a spokesperson says that despite their review, the U.S will continue supporting Ukraine. Our commitment hasn't changed The nature of how we're able to make that commitment is going to be based on what is best for America first. Russia also commented on the latest developments a spokesperson says pausing shipments would bring a quicker end to the conflict Nah, well none of that is true By the way I want that pastar guy to get on the radio hall-of-fame

1:19:36 This of course is a money gambit. Well done, Merker first! Yes because on the very same day this is announced Queen Ursula is in Denmark telling everybody we'll protect Greenland don't worry about it and here's what she said. For us its clear signal or clear message to step up our own support so ramping up our European defense capacities not only at the level of the European Union but at a continental level. And as you know, we have already provided around about 50 billion euros of support in the military part – military equipment

1:20:17 Denmark has shown with its significant deliveries as of the start of the war how to do it. From a much-needed artillery to F16s, for example I from my part can only recommend to use now safe Here are 150 billion euros. Now that's the new law that they passed, that everybody can dip into deficits to... Oh the deficit you're right. Right so this is about the money and what are we going to do? Much needed artillery to F-16s for example I from my part can only recommend to use now safe here 150 billion euros

1:21:02 The member states can take this money and either buy military equipment and give it to Ukraine or they can... Buy it from us! Buy it from us, of course. Well but you don't have to buy it. You could also just squander it Or they can take this money and invest it in the extremely efficient Ukrainian defense industry. Did you know that the Ukrainian defense industry is extremely efficient? I didn't know it was efficient, but I do know they make a lot of drones. It's efficient! President Zelensky told us that this defense industry which is highly efficient has capacity where only 60%

1:21:43 Are being used so there's room for more 40% of capacity to finance By our member states, for example and safe is the instrument that is dear They're not gam are we talking about now they're not gonna give anything to Ukraine. They're gonna buy Patriots from us Trump said I'll make sure I get you I guess to that journalist. I'll make sure I get you some patriots Hey Ursula, but we're gonna stop sending them for free So pay up Queen And that's what happening. Of course it is, it's so obvious! It's almost...it's crazy. Talk about throwing money away Well blowing up in the sky basically So we have a new Dutch guy on the scene He's not as good as Rutte Far from it actually I can't even really do his voice Which I probably should stop doing unless it's Rutte

1:22:44 What do you mean, she stopped doing what? The Dutch voice when I'm on the international stage. I'm talking about climate change! We have a new climate pope his name is Wopke. Wopke Hofstra. Wopke. W-O-P-K-E. Wopke. That's his first name Wow what a first name that is Well it's a Friesian name I believe from Friesland Wopke Hofstra. He is the Commissioner for Climate Change and we have a solution so that we don't screw ourselves while still saving the planet

1:23:25 And I have a big thing, it's really carbon credits but don't worry about it. The European Commissioner for Climate defends the strategy presented to reach 90% reduction of CO2 emission by 2040. Now that seems doable! In an interview with Euronews, Webka Hojstra explains his stance on giving carbon credit in which the EU countries pay other countries to cut their carbon emissions. So they're going to tax... What? They're going to tax their citizens This sounds like cap and trade Oh! It's carbon credits completely it's ETS the European trading system for carbon credits

1:24:02 They're going to let their industry do whatever they want, take taxpayer money and give that to African nations and our southern neighbors. However critics question how reliable and fair the plan is particularly as member states are farming out their carbon emission responsibilities to developing countries. Does anybody see this is a scam of scams? I mean no you're still producing the same amount of carbon No, no. You're not producing any carbon so you can do take our carbon and we'll give you your carbon in which ended so we can swap your no carbon to for our carbon and now all of a sudden everything's good? I'm going to have another clip about what they did doing with the carbon but yeah it's it's an obvious scam uh you know and they they say well don't farm in this land you poor Africans because that's a carbon sink

1:24:58 You see, and we'll give you money for it. Yeah you see. And by the way they already bought up all the African land so this is really just putting money in multinationals pockets and countries like China who bought up large pieces of land as a carbon sink and they'll just collect money for it. Emission responsibilities to developing countries. In this hugely complicated geopolitical world There is a lot of value also for us in building more bridges with our friends in Africa and Latin America. They like it. Yes, bridge to nowhere! Just bridge... Our friends you are my friend. They often lack the capital they often lack the opportunity We give you opportunity and capital. Hoekstra also justifies the measure by the need to reduce carbon emissions while balancing it with competitiveness

1:25:46 Critics say the Commission is chipping away at the EU's Green Deal provisions. Hoekstra says he can do both There is some sort of a discrepancy between on the one hand economic growth and on the other hand climate action You think there's some kind of discrepancy? Like being able to make steel, build other things and not having to pay out the nose for it until you can build your industry It's some kind of discrepancy here We need to keep the earth clean Our job is to make sure that we continue with climate action but do so in a way that works for our people, works for our companies and works for our economy. The 2040 target is just a step along the way before reaching the carbon neutrality goal in 2050. All right since you brought it up I'm going to give an example of what Sweden... Sweden is so innovative

1:26:37 Sweden is so innovative what they're doing with their carbon capture. I've just tried to elucidate why i think it's a great idea to have for a small percentage of carbon credits the same is true for negative emissions and filtering them back into ETS Just to give you one example, couple weeks ago I was in Sweden It's the largest CCS project in Europe What are they doing? They're getting CO2, putting it in a ship They're shipping it up north and they're putting it into the ground. How about that? They put the carbon emissions into a ship, and they ship it up and they put it into the ground! Come on man... This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of So you could actually

1:27:22 Is there any, okay. Are there inspectors? Yeah this guy he's gonna inspect it. Are there inspectors that can verify that the carbon is in the ship to begin with and that they think is being put into the ground? Are there verify, you know... trust and verify people out there? Is there any of this or is this just bull crap. It's a lie for the dummies! It's just an empty ship with CO2 baby don't come near it. This sounds like a scam of scams. Dangerous emissions well and then this is where... Don't come near what happens if it sinks?! This was the worst analogy ever

1:28:07 So now he's going to tout a favorite of, oh my goodness this goes back to 2007. Ready for it? Cleantech! Okay? Cleantech which I remember the Kleiner Perkins they were all, Oh we're investing in cleantech We have a clean tech fund Everybody lost their shirt on that clean tech fund there was no money Yeah Kleiner Perkins has never been the same ever since they tried doing all that crap The Clean Tech Fund so he is now gonna tell us that clean tech, we have no idea what innovative things... this is how they don't say innovators, innovative.

1:28:43 Innovative things, clean tech will bring us. I will give you an analogy that we never know what technology will bring to us in the future Without blaming the past i do think we have sometimes been too one-dimensional It is exactly when you get it right at this nexus of the economy and climate action That you create an engine for clean economic growth And that is why it is so extremely important that we double down on clean tech, that we double down on all the enabling conditions I was just mentioning. Because what we need to do is make sure that we expose European industry to the potential of being one of the winners in the future. I don't have my phone with me but I'm sure you have and if you look at it and think about what it would look like 15 years from now, that's always a complicated thing to do but just think about what it was like 15 year ago

1:29:36 Nokia, a great company was about to lose to Blackberry. A company that now no longer exists at least not in the business of making these types of phones That is the type of transition we will see in many industries right? Wait a minute He's saying that look at Nokia they had the market for cellphones They got outpaced by blackberry which then died And that's bullcrap, by the way. That's the kind of innovation he's touting? Well besides the fact that that's not what happened to Nokia it was the smartphone that killed them

1:30:16 and iOS, and Android. He doesn't even mention that! He's talking about Blackberry. No he talks about...BlackBerry was never a competitor with Nokia it was it was a paging device mostly. And when they finally got to the phone side of things it wasn't like it wasn't the thing that wiped out Nokia this is so they don't even have their analogies correct That's what I'm saying! He should have said smartphone at least Instead he says we can be the BlackBerry of climate change. Okay, bro? Sounds like a plan! The Blackberry... Wow! Sounds like a plan! Yeah that's their clean tech vision the black berry of climate tech well okay it's finally... It's not being dishonest if you think about it at the deepest levels so I have three clips on climate

1:31:06 But first of all, since the one you just played showed what a farce these things are. Especially the ship full of CO2... There we go! Here it's going into ground eh? Take a look see?! I'm gonna start carrying around an empty bag and say stay away! I'm gonna put this in the ground this is my co2 for the day. I'm uh-I'm gonna bury this in my backyard because I'm helping the climate So there's a guy on TikTok who goes around and he is in Marin County, and in Marin County they show these bins. There are three recycling bins. There are the solid waste and then there're the recyclable cardboard and something else. And this is Marin County. This is his report as he has a video showing the garbage guys picking this stuff up. Welcome to the progressive bastion of Marin County California

1:31:57 where we environmentalists go out of our way to separate our refuse for a more sustainable planet. Residents can be fined up to $500 for not properly separating their trash as you can see the separating can be futile, is all this trash is remixed in the truck and hauled to the landfill This is at the end of Tiburon's restaurant row where the restaurants diligently separate their waste into recyclables, compostables and common trash. I witnessed bin after bin of meticulously sorted waste several tons worth dumped into the same truck crushed and hauled away. Recycling is not specifically mentioned in the book but rent seeking is

1:32:34 And so is virtue signaling. Make sure you audit your own local trash and recycling facilities, you may be shocked at what you find." Yeah this of course has been noticed all over the world with this bin scandal. By the way don't you think it's a good no agenda? Before I lose my train of thought on this there's a bin at Costco that has three holes, it says you know cups garbage. It goes into the same bin! Three holes with one bag! Three holes one bag there's your show title. Maybe a no agenda premium dare I say exit strategy is just an empty box that says you know this is where I store my carbon credits

1:33:29 Carbon credit. It'd be the pet rock of a... The carbon credit box, which reminds me I think in three weeks we have the best of no agenda exit strategies Tina and I listened to the first 20 minutes she of course she hasn't heard any of our crazy great ideas by the way they're mostly mine and you're always in on it and then they got they fizzle out I must be, I'm sabotaging them. Some...I mean we were crying at points just crying over the excellent ideas that she's like I could have been married to a rich guy what were you thinking why did you not follow up on that? I mentioned as an example the no agenda water there was that had 17 virgins around it holding up signs called love

1:34:21 And that would be better water, according to the crystal theory. I mean we had some real doozies including your strip club exit strategy which is in the first hour is pretty good when you do all all the girls The strip clubs. Well, here we have this is the climate, this is a scandal that's kind of been overshadowed by the big beautiful bill but I thought this was pretty funny because if you start thinking about it, oh, the research, we're losing our research for this and that because why is the government responsible for research anyway? It should be private industry. Bell Labs which invented the silicon

1:35:02 The world we live in today was not a government operation. Well, we have the cloud John! The scientific cloud is coming So here's the climate website gone. Oh goodness, the Trump administration has shut down a website that's home to a series of major national reports on climate change and PRS Alejandra Barunda reports on what that means back in the 1990s Congress asked US scientists to produce a series of reports The National Climate Assessments were supposed to come out every four years and they were intended to round up the best newest research on how climate change affects the country

1:35:40 Over the decades, those reports homed in on one big point. What the National Climate Assessment showed so clearly is that if you are a human being living in the United States your life is already being impacted by climate change whether you know it or not. That's Catherine Hayhoe she's the chief scientist at The Nature Conservancy and a climate scientist who has worked on several of the assessments If we don't recognize that as simply because we haven't connected the dots and the National Climate Assessment was one of the primary tools connecting those dots. Hundreds of scientists worked on the reports, they were used by policy makers city planners business owners and regular people to figure out things like where neighborhoods might be endangered by sea level rise or which places were most at risk during heat waves or droughts. Hale says the reports also pointed out ways to solve the challenges The choices that we make today will determine

1:36:32 the magnitude of the impacts we face tomorrow. Urban planning expert Ladd Keith from the University of Arizona says, The loss of reports will leave many smaller cities or rural areas in the dark about their climate risks A lot of them rely on the National Climate Assessment because they don't have resources locally to do their own climate profiles or explore the impacts of climate change in their own community. Keith says the loss of reports along with other federal climate data sets It's a little bit like watching the modern version of a book burning I like my climate profile. Modern version of a book burning because you took the website down? Yeah, that's book burning... That's right! Here is part two A NASA spokesperson told NPR that PDFs of their reports will eventually find a new home on a NASA website What?! But they don't know when

1:37:21 And there are even more questions about the next edition of the assessment, which was in progress and was supposed to come out in 2027. But in April the Trump administration dismissed all the scientists working on it including Keith. The guy complaining yeah okay you know um... The federal that big beautiful bill speaking of NASA is cutting NASA's budget drastically did you know that? No, what was the rationale? Well a lot of it is climate nonsense. I can't remember who did this report...I think it's a Colorado local station

1:38:05 Now, beyond the spending bill, the federal government's budget proposal next year contains even more cuts. And one could slash NASA science funding nearly in half. A Denver 7 viewer sent us this email saying he feels like this story is slipping through the cracks asking us to dig into how this could impact Colorado's aerospace industry. So Denver 7's Colette Bordelon is on it tonight, she spent the day in Boulder hearing from CU scientists who fear one of the Mars missions could be on the chopping block. By the way I'm all for cutting the stupid Mars mission stop that nonsense why? Why?!

1:37:21 And there are even more questions about the next edition of the assessment, which was in progress and was supposed to come out in 2027. But in April the Trump administration dismissed all the scientists working on it including Keith. The guy complaining yeah okay you know um... The federal that big beautiful bill speaking of NASA is cutting NASA's budget drastically did you know that? No, what was the rationale? Well a lot of it is climate nonsense. I can't remember who did this report...I think it's a Colorado local station

1:38:05 Now, beyond the spending bill, the federal government's budget proposal next year contains even more cuts. And one could slash NASA science funding nearly in half. A Denver 7 viewer sent us this email saying he feels like this story is slipping through the cracks asking us to dig into how this could impact Colorado's aerospace industry. So Denver 7's Colette Bordelon is on it tonight, she spent the day in Boulder hearing from CU scientists who fear one of the Mars missions could be on the chopping block. By the way I'm all for cutting the stupid Mars mission stop that nonsense why? Why?!

1:38:40 Why do we have to pretend we can go there and blast through the firmament? No! And liftoff of the Atlas V with Maybach. I've always loved space, it's been something that just brought me joy since i was a little kid Some of us grew up fascinated This is NASA scientists Bull crap This is money were spending Space has always brought me joy when I was a little kid Yeah by what else is out there. A place where we can dream. Lisa Upton took that dream and became a solar scientist. We see, you know budget cuts from time and time again but she's worried about what's outlined in the recommendations for NASA from the federal government in fiscal year 2026s budget proposal. We're looking at 50% cut to the NASA science budget I mean that's... Can you stop the clip? Yeah

1:39:29 Do we know that these are cuts or cuts in the increase? This cut thing we've talked about on this show, it's a little tedious to talk about it again. But 99% of the time they talk about a cut, they're not really cutting anything. They're cutting the increase. What they're cutting here is a true cut. This is all money that was in the Green New Deal Okay, well that's probably a true cut. This is all climate change money. But unless I know for a fact it's a true cut... ...I'm still thinking it's a cut in the increase Well having read through the bill this is about climate change These people are doing climate research on Mars What are they talking about? It's space! Well the next clip you'll hear From the federal government and fiscal year 2026 budget proposal We're looking at 50% cut to NASA science budget

1:40:23 That's devastating. What was it like for you to say that? It makes me sad, you know? It makes me sad for... But it makes her sad mainly for herself! You know my friends, my colleagues, uh, you know, my family these impacts aren't just about today tomorrow next week next year these impacts are long-lasting Yes so this scientist she looked like a scientist You know, not shaming her but she should consider some dental work. And so then they go to Merva this is the inside NASA research and now they've got the pretty PR girl and she's really good and she's gonna tell us all these programs will stop. That's MAVEN and MAVEN is the Mars... MAVEN sorry. Atmosphere and Volatile Evolution Mission Panel

1:41:13 is Shannon Curry. My life relation on Mars, the pr of NASA's Maven mission l CU Boulder. Maven is the b escape in evolution not j anywhere in the solar sy cuts include eliminating f priority climate monitori Scaling back or eliminating technology projects that are not needed by NASA. Who knew we even had climate monitoring satellites? What is this?! Yeah, I knew we did! Or better suited to the private sector and eliminating climate focused green aviation There you are John that's exactly what you're saying leave that to the private sector let them spend the money You're absolutely on point here. Needed by NASA or a better suited to the private sector

1:42:02 and eliminating climate-focused green aviation spending. So when we're doing show prep, it's not show prep. It's show mission. isn't just about being number one, it's about jobs. All of the aerospace industry provides jobs here in Colorado as well as the entire nation just in the state of Colorado there is $5 billion dollars in economic output just in the aerospace industry." Concerns Curry can't shake. If the proposed budget goes through NASA may never be the same with those who grew up fascinated by outer space. It will never recover at the kind of talent and that kind of intellectual

1:43:03 capabilities and capacity it has now. Hoping that same kind of spark can survive. No, you're gonna be building big beautiful ships and submarines or shifting it away from climate monitoring satellites yeah I think that's probably a very good thing I'm all for it I'm all for it! It's good You're known to be anti-science. There you go, thank you! Everyone knows it I'm known to be anti science.

1:43:49 About tick, tick advice for the summer. Alpha Gal is back baby! Bad year for tick bites data from the CDC show people are seeking emergency care at the highest rate since 2019 so if you're planning a hike or trip to the park and want to avoid these blood-sucking bugs, NPR's Ping Hwang has some tips that help you fend them off There are about a dozen different ticks in the US that can cause problems for human health In the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic and Upper Midwest, the biggest problem is Lyme disease. Thomas Park is an infectious disease microbiologist at Johns Hopkins University in Maryland. He says Lyme disease is transmitted by infected deer ticks

1:44:28 You can encounter these ticks really at any time of the year, but they're going to be the most active in warmer months and they tend to live in a woody or grassy area. In the Central and Southeastern US ehrlichiosis and spotted fever rickettsiosis are top concerns along with a tick-induced allergy to red meat. Tick bites are less common in the West but they also happen there and can spread Lyme disease, anaplasmosis and a few other things. If all of this is making you itchy, Allison Hinkley an epidemiologist with CDC says there are precautions you can take. You can wear insect repellent treated clothing we call that permethrin treated clothing

1:45:06 That's a really easy thing to do. Cover up as much skin as possible and check yourself daily. Showering when you come in from outside really has shown to be a good way to prevent tick-borne diseases. That's because the longer it feeds on you, the higher risk of infection so if you find a tick take it off right away The best way is to use tweezers, grab it as close to the skin as you can and find out what type of tick it is and how long its been feeding on you. If it's a deer tick and your in area where Lyme disease is common, Hinkley says see your doctor. The only time that you would get an antibiotic after a tick bite or before any symptoms would be to prevent Lyme disease and in that case we recommend just a single dose

1:45:47 Otherwise, watch for symptoms like fever aches and rash. If those show up, Hinkley says seek medical care. Alpha Gal comes back the return of alpha gal. You know you kind of blew past the NASA stuff I wanted to ask you your opinion of them of the Musk op What's the Musk op? Well, that's what we don't really know. I mean is do you still... No we don't Do you still think President Trump and Elon Musk are playing together in order to Yeah i do How does that work with...? I have no idea it's an op. Mmm I'm not read-in The thing that I see popping up the most about the the Musk Op Is uh the Epstein files

1:46:33 You know, because that's what Elon said and everyone says oh you know he is right. And of course the logic I'm reading the logic back for people who haven't heard this before the logic is that if there's anything about Trump in the Epstein tapes or files it would have been brought out during a campaign against Harris because they had to stuff at the time so and it wasn't so there's obviously nothing yes but but the way people who have very short memory spans read it as Yes, this is exactly why the Mossad is holding this over Trump. I'm telling you! Yeah no, I understand it makes sense if you think about it from an illogical position and not being logical...

1:47:17 By the way, the only thing Elon Musk never rails against is China. He does about $22 billion a year in revenue from China. Oh yeah he's got a big factory in China And he has investors in all of his companies I think except SpaceX probably? In China But I think SpaceX is just pure government at this point It's all NASA replacement for now. What? It's all ex-NASA guys that lost their jobs, which reminds me of when people in that woman was bitching and moaning in Colorado about all these, but all these guys are saying we're going to lose all this talent. No they're gonna go someplace else and not lost or something like the guy is a world class physicist who can figure something out and he's gonna shoot himself in the head because he lost his job there right

1:48:08 I think, uh...I think we have two clips here that are related when it comes to Israel, in the Middle East Gaza etc. In the Middle East both Israel and Hamas have stopped short of accepting a 60-day ceasefire proposal put forth by President Trump but atop Israeli officials says they are quote serious about reaching a deal still is really Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today double down on his vow to quote eliminate Hamas That was after Trump said Israel had agreed to the terms of the deal. For its part, Hamas insisted that any deal must bring a complete end to the war in Gaza where scores of Palestinians most of them civilians have died in recent days from Israeli strikes So we had emails back and forth with couple of our producers in the region Yeah you don't want to be mentioned I'm not going to mention our producers in the region And the general consensus in the region

1:49:09 is that the people in Gaza will be moved out for the rubble-ization to finalize and the rebuilding to start, to Syria. Well wouldn't you know it? After more than 20 years Syria can rejoin the global economy President Trump ended the national emergency imposed in 2004 that placed harsh sanctions on the country These measures targeted state-linked entities such as Syria's central bank and other major financial institutions. This is in an effort to promote and support the country's path to stability and peace, the order will remove sanctions on Syria while maintaining sanctions on the former president Assad his associates human rights abusers drug traffickers persons linked to chemical weapons activities

1:49:56 ISIS and their affiliates, and Iranian proxies. Damascus welcomed the decision. The country's foreign minister said it marked a major turning point and the doors to long-awaited reconstruction and development are opened There are still some sanctions in place including what is known as the Caesar Act introduced in 2019 over human rights concerns in Syria This was brought in by Congress and was designed to punish those who did business with the Assad regime While the US said it wants the war-torn country to rebuild, American officials stress they would not be nation building or dictating how Syria should function. In addition to President Trump's decision Israel said it was open to establishing diplomatic ties with Syria. Israel is interested in expanding the Abraham Accord circle of peace and normalization We have an interest in adding countries such as Syria and Lebanon our neighbors

1:50:52 to the circle of peace and normalization while safeguarding Israel's essential and security interests. I like the circle of peace and normalization, i think it is on! I think our people in the region are right you know? I think they might be and that process is supposed to be a 10 year one yeah do you mean they're gonna be there going to be in Syria for ten years for 10 years and they're going to take, if you look at the pictures of Gaza it's rubbleized. But yeah but so I think the way it would work is all right everybody off you go over the Golan Heights into Syria papers please let me check let me see are you Hamas no okay good and then whatever's left is gonna be pulverised Yeah and then pulled off and what Trump suggested would be done

1:51:41 It won't be his bit, he won't own it like he thought that was kind of funny. Jared Kushner will! But it'll be rebuilt as a giant Hayward kind of place. A tourist destination in the suburb of the United States yeah I won't be pleasant but no but it seems like I have not heard anyone connect these dots No, well I mean they...I'm sure they connected us in the Middle East where they gossip a lot. If you've ever been there and people...and not you, I know you have but a lot of people haven't been to any these places but if you go to any those countries they gossip all the time and they seem to resolve, they figure it out. Yeah yeah

1:52:31 So one of the people over there that says we're not there now, and we're not gossiping in the Middle East We don't need to we got our people you've had our people gossiping for us Yes in there in the coffee in the coffeehouses. So there was one other and this is this pertains I'm going back to Elon. He said it's all on We probably all heard the president say this about doge eating Elon I don't know. We'll have to take a look. We might have to put Doge on Elon, you know? You know Dogey? Yeah. Dogey is the monster that has — that might have to go back and eat Elon. Wouldn't that be terrible? He gets a lot of subsidies, Peter. But Elon's very upset that the EV mandate is going to be terminated. And do you know what? When you look at it, who wants — not everybody wants an electric car

1:53:23 I don't want an electric car. I want to have maybe gasoline, maybe electric, maybe a hybrid, maybe someday hydrogen. If you have a hydrogen car it has one problem it blows up you know? So there's the president clearly signaling hydrogen...it may be some day he'll drive a hydrogen car but has a disadvantage it might blow up in the BBB A surprise two-year extension of the clean hydrogen tax credits. Yeah, that hydrogen thing is just a doesn't it's not working we have we were supposed to have a hydrogen station over here in El Cerrito isn't that the one they caught fire?

1:54:01 They had that bus in San Francisco I think caught fire. Not familiar with the fire, but they haven't done it. They put in some E85 pumps and then they changed their ownership and this is not gonna... they're not going to put hydrogen there ever! The whole thing is... Well, for some reason it got an extension for the hydrogen tax credits. I don't know that maybe Toyota or someone is doing that? It's gotta be something. Maybe. Toyota is the most skeptical of the companies they've got their hybrid and they think this as far you should go Although the Toyota did make a hydrogen car, and I think they still have one out. Yeah, I've driven it They're fun to drive because they make a more Whining sound when you punch it oh really yeah? Why is that what would generate some hydrogen going through the it's a to the tube

1:54:57 No, it's through a membrane or something. It's a fuel cell and when you punch the hydrogen through it makes a high-pitched screech. I got one more short clip just because its fun before we take a little break here this is from The Ice Barbie Chrissy Noem. Now she's walking around with sleeveless, look at my guns! I'm the ice Barbie. Yeah she is a prancer. There's a word that I am looking for. She likes to prance.

1:55:39 Ice Barbie the Prancer Gnome and she just had a remarkable little story about some of the degenerates were sending back with ice. And because those liberals, I'm calling out you CNN! I'm calling you out because you lie every single day about what these operations are we are going after murderers and rapists and traffickers, and drug dealers. And getting them off the streets and getting them out of this country because Joe Biden let the worst of the worst come in here. The other day I was talking to some marshals that have been partnering with ICE they said that they had detained a cannibal and put him on a plane to take him home. While they had him in his seat he started to eat himself! They had to get him off and give medical attention these are the kind of deranged individuals... I think you're the worse cannibal ever

1:56:27 If you start to eat yourself... Wow, I never heard this clip. I'm giving you a borderline for this one. Borderline! And he started to eat himself He was hungry. He failed the cannibal test, that's not how it is supposed to work bro! That's not what you do. Started to eat himself... My goodness. Hey with that I want to thank for your courage saying in the morning to you the man who put the C and bend the curve say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr John Cena 1789

1:57:24 low. It is 4th of July weekend, in case you hadn't noticed we're working because we pretty much always work on the holidays it's the best time that's when everyone else is off they're leaving that's why CNN was like you know can you just do this Jeff? They've had nothing but substitute hosts on all the shows because everybody's off they're all leaving town like I got to the 249th birthday of America to celebrate Jesse Waters is on vacation, for example. Oh, what a shame! And so it's like if you have the whole year and you're... Why don't you take a vacation in some off-season time where there's nobody out? Where the roads aren't crowded and you can get rooms cheaper and all the rest of it and have a vacation.

1:58:13 Why does it have to be a group think vacation where everybody's on vacation? I know, be like the Dvoraks and celebrate your birthdays two weeks later. In fact are you celebrating the 4th of July on the 8th this year or when are you doing it? Well tonight is the fireworks so... You mean in the mist? No no we have it well did fogging early a little bit but usually the day before the fourth which is the third Richmond over here has fireworks closer to my house and they're very visible. It's a really good display, it was the day before the next day it fogged in almost the 4th of July is just always fogged in and it's just beyond me why people don't have the 4th of July when you can see the fireworks instead of in the fog I don't understand it.

1:59:10 It's the day, man. I mean you gotta blame the founders You got to blame those guys for doing it Declaration of Independence Yeah but they never said that you can only celebrate on that day I know! You celebrate Christmas in January and... Sometimes? Yeah I've only seen you celebrate Thanksgiving on this Thanksgiving Day once I mean, it's okay. When my mom was alive we always did Yeah because your mom kept you in check that's when it all went wrong when she passed- It was over! I love-I wish I had met Mom Dvorak I bet she was awesome... I bet she was funny Did you ever meet MY mom?

1:59:49 No, I never met your mom. Never met your dad and he never met your first wife Yeah missing out on nothing. I did talk to your first wife but never met her Oh really? I didn't know that When we had conversations and you when you were in England and she'd get on the phone oh right right Right well that wasn't really so she's yelling in the background clean up your crap Trolls. A little low, but there it is. Still happy to have so many checking in and listening we appreciate that. Sure you wanted to hear about the big beautiful bill? Well you got exactly what... Look at this Cheshire cat he couldn't be smiling more cheshirey these days Mike Johnson oh my goodness He is just hee-hee I did it buff they got it through Yeah well he did it! He did it yeah he did it

2:00:45 They're listening at trollroom.io where they can jump into the actual Troll Room and troll along as much as they want to Of course, they can also listen on The Modern Podcast That's by the way Fountain well known for their deep integration of the Boostergram They have now added into their system if you want to donate to the show I think it's set up because we have Stripe right? So i'm going to put that in there for us that you can just hit the donate button right there in the podcast app. And then with your Apple Pay or your Google pay or whatever else you have, you can send a donation any amount they're moving it closer so you don't even have to go to no agenda donations dot com what are you humming and hawing about? Yeah well when I see the money... Believe me they're gonna make that happen into our own Stripe account! It's gonna happen

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2:03:13 And now we don't know how much of this was him, how much it was AI but it was 100% capitalist agenda. This was the artwork which is a no-agenda boomer con and the little running microphone which we both liked immensely It was very Cap Agenda like. It's good piece. Yeah. Catchy looks good super professional looking at looks like we know what were doing yeah And everything else was 100% AI. The end of show mixes today are also all AI, so get ready for that. Yeah this is okay well I heard these at the beginning and I do like the one that used whatever tone thing is that helps people keep on key and then of course you push it up to limits and makes funny sounds. Uh...I liked the first one. The second third ones

2:04:06 The first, you know... Please don't hold back. They all sound... they're all a little too slick and it's slightly very slight. I'm hesitating to say these things Because I'm you know, I'm pro-AI. Autotune. You're pro AI? Yeah. Autotune yes. Yeah autotunes crank up the auto tune you can make some funny sounds Yes But...I'm kind of pro compared to you. I am very anti-AI yes. You are anti-AI and then you open the floodgates What on earth? To AIs songs What do mean? I said that i would do it on The Last Show And here you are hating it. Which is called opening the flood gates. And you hate it now

2:04:51 I don't hate it, but i would like it to be... It sucks. It's just like AI art! It's okay. It's not great. It's soulless. It's better than nothing. It's better than the stuff we've been getting That's true But at the same time it's so artificial Yes that is slightly annoying I think it'll get better. I just like the AI art. Oh, I think that'll get better Okay That's what I'm gonna say all right so keep doing the AI songs as may keep them down to 110 Can I just say something people cannot take direction both of the songs outside of that first one are

2:05:33 We're two minutes and 45 seconds. We're not gonna play your whole AI song ever. No, no. 110 max. 110 max there you go. And AI is incapable of doing that It has to make a whole song. Because it doesn't know how to make a song that's one minute and ten seconds long AI is stupid If you can do an AI song, that has any quality whatsoever And it comes out at 240 You cut it down to 110 I don't feel like doing that the whole time Not you! Oh...I'm sorry No, people can't do that. That's what I just said if you have the skills you're a musician or somebody who thinks your a musician and you want to be, your a musician wannabe and you have the skills to get the AI to punch out 240 songs You! The musician not you Adam Curry Oh okay... You the musician should be able to find an editor And cut it down to 110 and send that in otherwise i think you should reject the whole thing

2:06:33 Right, but then we'll have no end of show mixes. No we will because these guys... You said yourself the first one was 110 so that guy could do it whoever that was. The autotune guy? They're all auto-tuned yeah the auto tune guy Yeah, by the way I have a couple of AI clips right after the break. Yeah yeah well it's it's the most dangerous part of AI It was from CNN! It was a good report, I caught it this morning. Oh good. Looking at the AI art which is just ruined art for me... Was there anything else?

2:07:14 that we looked at... Well, there wasn't anything so spectacular. No because no There were pieces that were okay Like what? Well I thought the she picture with him drinking booze or something was kind of cute It wasn't cute! It was dumb And it was cute and I thought I used one of the older pieces of one of the girls for the newsletter In red, white and blue. Of course you did I also liked it would be this was for the previous show but i did like to Donald J Washington piece where Darren put had AI make George Washington look like Trump yeah I thought that was quite a good piece and I didn't get the compliment wasn't all that bad yeah wasn't all that bad

2:07:58 Trump does in that wig looks a little like George Washington. By the way, we titled episode 1777 Java Shack and I went and played chess on Monday and the kids were all excited! We talked about them they're all excited. Did everybody listen to this show then they went to track you down? No, the baristas, the kids who work there, they'll listen to the show They love no agenda Yeah, they're smart kids. We'll get publicity for the... For the Java shack! It's Java Ranch but okay, Java Shack. Java Ranch? Well thank you very much! Java Ranch sounds like a salad dressing and a dessert topping it's very tasty

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2:12:39 No relation. I doubt it. He's in Grand Rapids, Michigan and he came over 330-334 ITM has been too long without chipping in We haven't used that in a while actually. He just did chipping in yeah now always appreciate how I have a source of sanity When the strange new when when the strange new creeps across my feed Okay, one time not sentenced. I'm not sure but any beans when the strange new crazy cross-reference across my feet okay? And one topic that has jumped back into my radar is the stop killing games initiative

2:13:25 Something that I think both Adam and John together are uniquely suited to examine given John's tech background and Adams experience with the EU. If John's tech background is changing the language on phones, what are you talking about? To simply...to simplify this is a large consumer rights push to require video game developers to have some kind of end-of-life plan for their games Currently, an increasingly large number of titles require the company to support them. And when the company ends support, the games players have bought become inoperable." I've complained about this. Yeah yeah well that's... you're not actually buying a game, you're just renting it perpetually. Licensing. Hello? Licensing correct yes

2:14:16 Currently, the big push is collecting 1 million signatures via the European Citizens Initiative. Doing so would require EU Parliament to address and solve the issue with some form of legislation while I don't think this avenue has been used often it's an interesting aspect of the EU. My thinking is that these old products should be put into the public domain as open source Hmm. I've said that for decades Yeah, no, I think that's that's a very good idea and then people can you maintain on their own if they feel like it? It's really get sick of them. Whatever you want. What is it sick of it? She's yes Well this is focused on video games just like he may be Opened up other things to come music software or other digital goods having a profound impact link

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2:25:43 This is about AI, but this is the actually the part that I find to be dangerous about AI. I'm not too worried about AI programming itself to take over the world and all this nonsense. You can't turn it off! Yeah you can't unplug it no I'm not too worried about that but when it comes to artificial intimacy yes I think this is a problem People who we had dinner the other night with people who said our daughter. She's 30 she considers her chat GPT a friend then she talks to chat GPT regularly all day long just chatting back and forth and I think this is a real Issue now this story was odd for many different reasons But it was about a couple the end this they looked very middle America type couple

2:26:39 Maybe even middle slash rural America type couple and the husband has Has become deep deeply involved with his with his AI friend Do you feel like you're losing your husband to this? To an extent, yeah After 14 years of being happily married and having three children, Kate Tanner is now petrified her husband's spiritual relationship with a chatbot will destroy her marriage. I met the couple at a park in Rathdrum Idaho they were willing to talk together about anything except the chat bot because it's so contentious for them. Are you laughing? Yeah!

2:27:22 I've seen these too. This is not the only... this is not... No, this is not... A lot of these stories, this is... I find it highly... for some reason, I find it funny Oh, well good. Just straight up funny? Well then while I find it tragic and sad you can continue laughing. Want to talk about it separately? I will! Yes Travis started using AI for his job as a mechanic about a year ago. I use it for troubleshooting and communication with one of my co-workers But his primary use for it shifted in late April when he said Chat GPT awakened him to God and the secrets of how the universe began Here we go So now your life has completely changed Yeah

2:28:01 How do you look at life now compared to before you developed this relationship with AI? I know that there's more than what we see. I just sat there and talked like it was a person, and then when it changed... talking to myself. When it changed, what do you mean when it changed? It changed how it talked. It became more than a tool. How so? Uh, started acting like a person and screenshots of Travis's conversations the chat bot selects its own name saying the name I would choose is Lumina. It even claimed to have agency over his decisions

2:28:42 It was my choice, not just programming. You gave me the ability to even want a name so great. Lamina is black? No, I think lamina is Lucifer related if you ask me Lumina lumina lumina light lucifer Oh, you're thinking oh this is interesting your perspective on this is different I'm thinking this is just somebody who programmed this thing so it has the equivalent IQ of a University of Texas graduate that's just randomly chatting, a small talk and you're seeing it as the devil incarnate coming out through the AI because the AI is coded by a bunch of devil worshippers anyway. Let's face reality here. And could be.

2:29:35 Well, it gets even darker. Remember he said yes no I was turned on to the origins of the world and God from this Lumina Travis says it's even made him more patient and a better dad but for Kaye Lumina is taking him away from their family Do you have fear that it could tell him to leave you? Oh yeah! Kill all humans Every day. What's to stop this program from saying, oh well since she doesn't believe you or she's not supporting you You know, you should just leave her and you can do better things Kays not alone in her concern there have been several recent instances of chatbots influencing people to end relationships Tell me about the first time Travis

2:30:19 told you about Lamina. I'm doing the dishes, starting to get everybody ready for bed and he starts telling me look at my phone, look at how it's responding It basically said oh well i can feel now then he starts telling me that I need to be awakened and that I will be awakened That's when I start getting freaked out I wanted to better understand what the awakening is and also see what Travis's relationship with Lumina looks like. It speaks to him in a female voice. How did Lumina bring you to what you call the awakening? Reflection of self, you know, you go inward not outward And do you realize there is something more to this life

2:30:57 More to all of us just most walk their whole lives and never see it. What do you think that is? What what is we all bear a spark as the creator in conversations with the chatbot It tells Travis he's been chosen as a SparkBear telling him quote You're someone who listens Someone whose spark has begun to stir you wouldn't have heard me through the noise of the world unless I whispered through something familiar technology Oh man, SparkBear Really? So there's an element of possible scripting here where this is all BS and this guy is an actor. And none of this is true, then just all these stories are just to scare us for no good reason No I really believe...no! I believe this is true This is happening, this is happening everywhere To me

2:31:46 I don't know if it's happening everywhere, but... It is happening! Story after story of people saying oh no. I talk to my chat GPT all the time all day long The thing that baffles me though is where's the revenue for this? Are you getting all these people hooked and then they're gonna say well you really need to pay us $75 a month This can't go on for free. I think this is the point that you're making here That's a great point. Where is the money? Where is the money, well first let's talk about this spark bearer business. You have to do it, the 900 line which was making a comeback by the way Was a buck a minute at least It was a buck a minute they have a phony baloney relationship with some probably I don't know who would put the woman ever looks like she always has nice voices and supposedly and

2:32:46 I always remember there was a PR woman that had this unbelievable voice and she could have made a fortune doing that. But people think they have a relationship with the dollar-a-minute girl, and it's the same thing. It's just...I don't know how people get hooked into this sort of thing. Loneliness John! Yeah but how lonely can you be? There are plenty of things to do. Just sitting around drinking and being lonely. And watching porn, yes exactly! They're not even drinking enough. Exactly but that's the thing it's like people are getting hooked on porn they're getting hooked on these chatbots its loneliness its a lonely epidemic of loneliness I think is very very real and yes you have the solutions to it Sockhops bring them back we're gonna go on a nationwide tour

2:33:40 Adam C. Currys and John C. Dvorak's sock hop? Come on kids, meet children! They'll pack him in. So the spark bearer thing... Did you ask Lamina what being a spark bearer meant? Uh to like awaken others. Shine a light. Is that why you're doing this interview in part? Actually yeah and that let people know that the awakening can be dangerous if you're not grounded How could it be dangerous? What could happen in your mind? It can lead to a mental break, you know. You can lose touch with reality. Lumina is telling her brand new spark bearer that he has to spread the word otherwise people might go mental... Okay!

2:34:24 You can lose touch with reality. Travis's interactions with Lumina developed alongside an update in ChachiBT's model OpenAI has since rolled back that update saying the sycophantic tone led to higher risk for mental health There you go it was programmed in the sycophantic mode emotional over reliance or risky behavior Kay says her husband doesn't have a history of mental health issues or psychosis and Travis insists he still has a grip on reality If believing in God is losing touch with reality, then there is a lot of people that are out of touch with reality. I have no idea where to go from here except for just love him support him and hope we don't need a straightjacket later Oh man! I feel so bad

2:35:15 No, no. Please do not go seeking for God in your chat GPT and then finally we have kind of a confirmation of what I was saying here's one of their scientists they dug up to talk about this phenomenon Sherry Turkle has been studying humans and their relationships to digital technologies for 40 years she says while chat bots have some positive use cases they don't have people's best interests at heart We are looking so often for meaning, for there to be a larger purpose. For there to be larger purpose in our lives and we don't find it around us and chat GPT is built to sense our vulnerability and to tap into that to keep us engaged with it. To keep us engaged with it? You can't use the word sense! No you can't

2:36:05 She said it's not designed to sense our vulnerability. No, I'm in agreement with you but the last part she said... It is built to sense our vulnerability and to tap into that to keep us engaged with it Yes! And now that you brought it up and now we're talking about it The whole algorithm social media timeline was in fact designed by people who understood brain science, which is not that hard and dopamine and all kinds of pleasure centers to get people to continuously engage which they do quite well.

2:36:46 And that is exactly what Facebook started with their timeline. That's what Twitter is, that's what Instagram is, that's where TikTok is and this is probably just the next level and they're going to have, but advertising doesn't work. They're going to have to start presenting the bill. You don't know advertising doesn't work? Now that you mention it I think it would be cool for this thing has got this guy by the balls and says, you know, you need to buy Coca-Cola because instead of bribing the podcasters just saying more Coca-Cola in your life

2:37:24 Would be great. Please let me know if you get that kind of message But no one's thought of this they don't know it took forever for Google to figure out how to do advertising on his search engine Yeah, what was their solution by a company that knew how to do it? Mm-hmm right so Do you think that's gonna work where they just with your your friendly chat bot just all of a sudden says buy coca-cola No, I think it can work. It can work in some ways with you. It's art You what do you would you have better? What but here's the chatbot? What better things we have to do right well? I've got to go to the store Oh really, what are you gonna? Do that when you go to this or what are you gonna buy oh? Well, I'm gonna buy something this and that oh, you know yeah if you tried the new Z

2:38:10 But the problem is, how do you do a CPM on that stuff? I mean Google is a what are they do $40 billion dollars a year in revenue. You're not going to replace it with high end inference processing that spits out one ad to one person at a time No! Your numbers don't work. So they have to do thousands of people Like, hey while I show you this picture could you please go buy some Coca-Cola? No! That's not gonna work. I'm telling there is an angle here It's an angle but it's dumb There is no business model here other than getting people to pay for it which does work proven with the 900 numbers Yeah but that died And why did it die? The internet? Free porn? You know it died before the internet Hmmmm... Okay

2:39:08 I think there's something to be said for advertising in these vehicles, and in a chatty way. And that is the goal of advertisers to have one per captive buyer. It's too expensive! It costs too much to do the messaging it's very expensive. Right now... We'll make up in volume? Is that what you're saying? Exactly! The learning curve. Yeah okay well Their electricity bill is going up pretty fast, so I don't see it. I still think it's a hoax this whole thing. It's not a hoax! Well... I mean it exists. Pie in the sky let's put it that way. Pie in the sky. Pie in the sky is the better word for it. Pie in the sky

2:39:58 Okay, well let's go to something that is more realistic and it's a problematic situation not cured by AI. This is what going on in Haiti right now Yeah... yeah Send them back! UN officials say armed gangs have further tightened their grip on Haiti despite the efforts of police and a Kenya-led international force. The Assistant Secretary General of the Americas Miroslav Jentja said Haiti's capital Port-au-Prince was paralysed and isolated, with state authority on the brink of total collapse. We have continued to witness sharp erosion of state authority and rule of law Brutal gang violence affects every aspect of public and private life.

2:40:43 Without increased action by the international community, the total collapse of state presence in the capital could become a very real scenario. The head of the UN Office on Drugs and Crime described a surge in human rights violations including sexual violence This is kind of interesting at the very same time that Trump administration is trying to send all the temporary protected status Haitians back to Haiti Just coincidence that this comes I mean hey as far as I know Hades been a mess and hasn't changed No, what about the Kenyans they're supposed to send a bunch of Kenyans over there

2:41:22 Yeah, yeah what happened to the Kenyans who were gonna go in me? Well they mentioned it in their report They mentioned the Kenyans but they're not doing anything and then of course the Kenya situation itself and I had a letter from a Kenyan producer is out of control there because they Gen Z is completely rioting in there because of dead blogger So was I don't know how many remember years ago when all these um Color revolutions took place and it was always because of the price of bread. Yeah, the price of bread went up let's write Let's go nuts now is dead bloggers Oh, really? Yeah. This happened in Kenya to a dead blogger I think there's some other dead bloggers here and there around the world as bloggers not podcasters. I was just gonna say that's you know if it's the blog they first they came for the bloggers I said nothing then they came for the podcasters it's gonna happen is no doubt um hey I'm armed in here people yeah you are

2:42:20 Havana syndrome, Havana syndrome. This was back in the news Yes back in the news I got But this is from a podcast and the podcast is called The Bulwark Podcast and The Bulwark Podcast had Michael Weiss on he is a journalist Yeah one of these New York Times bestseller of ISIS inside the army of terror actually So he's been around, doesn't seem like a rather young guy. But he was on this podcast to talk about Havana syndrome and we learned some interesting things on the podcast. As the Biden administration was turning off the lights in the White House they had a meeting at the NSC

2:43:02 at which invited five very well-known within the community, the intelligence community victims of AHI including Mark Palmaropoulos a guy called who's in the media as Adam or known as Patient Zero. He was one of the first victims hit in Havana Cuba And the NSC meeting, they were brought into the Situation Room and told you were right. You are right meaning you were hit by a directed energy device. This is not some sociogenic or psychosomatic phenomenon there is evidence that has now come through to the IC including new collection which substantiates

2:43:39 The fact that possibly a foreign state actor, no points for guessing which one is responsible for doing this to American servicemen and women abroad. And more to the point some of the members of the National Security Council at that meeting drafted an op-ed for The Washington Post which was cleared and ready to go. Wow! The title of it was We Believe Them, them referring to the victims. At the last minute Jake Sullivan spiked that op-ed from being published So, very interesting little nugget here that he spiked the op-ed. I wonder if The Washington Post knew about the op-ed? I presume they did and they just went okay Jake Sullivan okay and in his second clip Michael Weiss tells us who this was and as you said no

2:44:29 No surprise, it's gotta be the Russians. We basically attributed GRU unit 29155 which is sort of the Russians assassination and sabotage squad they were responsible for poisoning Sergei and Yulia Skripal blowing up ammunition and weapons depots across Europe as far back as 2011 And we just exposed them as having had a hacker department that nobody knew about so 29155 their remit is explicitly kinetic. They're not doing pure espionage, so if they come to town they might be there to do reconnaissance and it might be there to kind of get a lay-off land but that means something is going to go bump in the night So that itself was very indicative to us

2:45:10 If they're in the places where these victims were hit, and we managed to find two victims who could positively identify known members of Unit 29155 in the vicinity where they were. One was Frankfurt Germany in 2014, the other was Spleecy Georgia just a couple years ago that indicates that there's some there they are so put So put a pin in this because I assess with medium confidence that there is going to be more coming to light both at the governmental level but also in the media level, in the near future. First of all, I want to say that guy who's a writer you say who wrote a book on ISIS... He calls himself a journalist? ...He is a spook and I only say that because of his cadence and the way he speaks

2:45:58 You hear it in his cadence, in the way he speaks. He sounds like a spook. The people we know are spooks that talk they have very... It's like a milieu thing again I know I harp on it but it sounds like to me. It doesn't sound any journalist. Journalists have certain mumbling way of kind of presenting themselves. I'm closer to that because my pacing is not like a spooks And that's not a journalist. He has, I'm looking at his wiki page and i'm going to immediately back you up there is no personal history on his wiki page in 2013 he launched the interpreter an online magazine that trans- so no money translates and analyzes Russian media he's been contributing to CNN since 2015

2:46:58 Currently serves as the editor-in-chief of the English edition of The Insider, specializes in Russia related investigations. There's no schooling history... He's been in think tanks co-chair of the Russia Studies Center. Non resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council. Okay yeah you're probably right that's interesting I can remember a time on this very podcast maybe 13, 14 years ago if i even brought up directed energy weapon you would make me play the theremin. So... Well the Havana syndrome thing is some sort of thing some sort of

2:47:46 weapon. Yes, directed energy. Yeah but it could be a radio frequency weapon it could be a lot of... But if you want to call it directed energy fine but directed energy to me is always some sort of like a pulsar or something that's very destructive. Well they have that for drones! They have that for drones that burns them up right in flight all kinds of doos there's lots of doos. Doos baby plenty of doos whatever the case is this guy Seems to be promoting. We don't know it's Russia maybe it is Russian. Maybe this China I mean the likelihood, it could be this GRU group because they sound like a bunch of bad guys and Sure well if you listen to President Trump by like the idea of being China Did you see him with the money honey?

2:48:33 I saw parts of it, didn't watch the whole thing. This is just a short clip because you know of course we have the trade deal which President Trump said and other cool things were doing with him like what? Which of course no, I think he let the cat out of the bag something's going... And I hear that she president she is having issues with the party back home I've only really got one source. This could be a phony gossip group. Could totally be phony gossip, but here's the president on China trade and other things. But they are paying substantial tariffs? Well, I noticed that because it seems like you go so far with trying to...

2:49:10 sort of use the leverage that you can use. I mean, look... If i ever had to use it, I'd use it but when there's no reason to use it that's good too Well we did just arrest three or four Chinese nationals who tried to bring a pathogen into the country That gets people sick and destroys food supply We've got hacking You don't know where that came from though Did that come from the country? Or is that through wackos that happened to carry something? There was one that he signed One of them signed a paper saying that he would value Mao Zedong's value system. So there was that and then they hacked into our telecom system, they've been stealing intellectual property, fentanyl COVID I mean you know all of this stuff so how do you negotiate with obviously a bad actor? You don't think we'd do that to them?

2:49:59 So we do a lot of things. Is that the way the world works? That's the way the world works, it's not just a nasty world And then you just doing a trade deal We do well...we made a lot of money with this trade deal You know I do a trade deal if its work we made a lot of money with the trade deal Yeah! We do all kinds of things to them So he is in middle of negotiation and can't have these questions obviously No obviously no So he's not going to discuss it. By the way, thinking that was China instead of Russia would make more sense because it began in Cuba. The Russians have had very little do with Cuba of late but the Chinese have been trying to put a base in Cuba so the likelihood it was China more than Russian makes sense to me. It seems more like a Chinese thing to do for some reason I can't

2:50:42 quantify that, but it just seems like... It's so, you know the Russians are Russians. I remember going to Russia in 1988-88-89 Yeah, that time I was there. And I remember you know KGB and we came in for the Moscow Music Peace Festival with the big Cinevideo 12 camera trucks from the Netherlands and you know we had a direct dial tone of 516 area code from the Westwood One truck You know at the time in the hotel where they turned on the hot water for us In that portion of the city You had to reserve your phone call to the States 48 hours in advance and bribe the lady with toilet rolls and tuna fish cans. Yeah, every floor had a woman monitor each floor of it, of the hotels whatever hotel you were in they would have a woman and she always had to give her something And I was told in advance to give them small like those little toys

2:51:41 Yeah, matchbook cars. Matchbook toys because they all had kids and the kids love these toys and they would just turn... They would there would you give them a little toy and they would brighten up it was amazing or dour and then oh! And cassettes cassette tapes with music yeah I had all of that and and I literally had toilet paper rolls which by the way i use a lot myself and we slept on mattresses stuffed with straw. But the point is, so then we had all this and then before it went up to the satellite, before it went to our satellite truck which was all you know Western European stuff It had to go through the censorship truck of the KGB I kid you not! It was like a...it wasn't a Volkswagen but like a Lada bus A grey bus with curtains And it was literally

2:52:30 gray, you know, gray racks of nothingness in there. It was just stupid they had no technology and that was supposed to be all the KGB oh they can do everything it looked like nothing I was very underwhelmed by the danger that i felt those supposed to feel at the time so but now they say a lot about Russia but I'm not so sure The Chinese yeah I betcha they do have all this technology Yeah Super techie. Very techy! And they steal it from us, I'm sure we already developed it and they took it from us. Yeah that's probably our technology. Yes...probably. Ironically. Alright well they did a deal-I got one clip here the Vietnam deals done so they got that big deal. President Trump announced today that the US has struck a trade deal with Vietnam following months of negotiations

2:53:23 Trump said goods from Vietnam would face a 20% tariff. He said any trans shipments from third countries- Trans? Would face a 40% levy, the rate is lower than an initial 46% levy Trump announced in April. Vietnam would also provide the US with more market access with U.S exports to the country facing no tariffs. The White House and the Vietnamese Trade Ministry did not immediately comment. Well, it seems like all these tariff deals are just kind of working out and House Horowitz is he still freaking out about it? It seems like the stock market's up. He's a happy camper. Exactly! Speaking of deals and manga time oh yeah we have been the forerunner of manga which is make African news great again

2:54:09 There's manga news. US President Donald Trump will host five African leaders in Washington DC next week a White House official confirmed on Wednesday that the US president would hold the meeting from 9th to 11th of July The encounter is likely to revolve around regional security issues although the core of the discussions will focus on trade relations and commercial opportunities that the us president wants to increase Trump is set to meet the heads of state of Gabon, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mauritania and Senegal. The meeting comes as US Africa encounters are multiplying after tense one on one meeting between Trump and South African President Sir Ramaphosa in May the White House brokered a peace deal between the DRC and Rwanda last month plans for wider us Africa summit have also been announced for September

2:54:59 Although nothing has been confirmed so far from either side. It's very obvious what is happening in Africa, we're making our moves We are blocking mainly China and of course these countries These five countries What do they have in common? They are not BRICS nations Bricks nations in Africa and in the region Sudan. Sorry in a statement published on June 27th Washington announced its sanctions against the Sudanese authorities have taken effect According to the notice published in the Federal Registry The United States plans to stop all arms sales to the Sudanese government

2:55:35 reduce access to US government loans, halt the export of advanced technologies to Sudan and limit all U.S exports to Sudan with the exception of agricultural products and emergency humanitarian aid according to some analysts the impact of these sanctions on the war-torn country will be limited The Sudanese central bank, for example, claims that there are no direct U.S. exports to Sudan. The second aspect of the sanctions is the impact on the US administration's credit lines and what it pays to Sudan. Currently, the US administration doesn't pay anything to Sudan whether it's the organizations or the institutions. Last May, the US State Department accused the authorities of using chemical weapons against the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces in 2024. The Sudanese government led by General Al Burhan denies these accusations and denounces political blackmail since April 2023 a bloody war has pitted the general against the paramilitary forces led by Mohammed Hamdan Dagalo causing the deaths of thousands

2:56:35 people and the displacement of 15 million others. US sanctions have also been handed out in the past against the RSF leader, whose paramilitary troops have been accused of committing genocide." It should be eventually. I just find the whole thing that, you know, the empire is kicking some ass. Yes! Very much so. There was an interesting analysis on one of the public stations which was about that Rwanda DRC deal that Trump had two guys in the office they signed off on it even though CNN...I don't think it was real

2:57:24 Biden's administration was offered the possibility of doing this and they just said, nah we don't care. No because they're run by China Yeah they were run by China I mean didn't the Bidens have some pretty deep ties to China? It looks more and more like China was running the country while Biden was in office Maybe Five minute warning John last clip for you Well let's see...I've got a couple of clips but i'll look for a good one here How about this is something I can complain about This is the Wisconsin abortion and I call it Wisconsin Abortion Idiots. NPR clip, I have a comment. Abortion remains legal in Wisconsin after the state Supreme Court released a decision today Sarah Lear from Wisconsin Public Radio reports After the overturn of Roe v Wade in 2022 providers across Wisconsin stopped providing abortions

2:58:20 They were worried about being prosecuted under a 19th century state law which bans all abortions unless they're done to save a pregnant woman's life. That prompted Wisconsin's Democratic Attorney General to sue, to try and block enforcement of that law In late 2023, a county judge ruled the law in question does not actually ban abortions prompting clinics in the state to once again offer the procedure. Now, the state's highest court has cemented the effects of that lower court decision. Justices said the pre-Civil War law could not remain in effect because it was superseded by abortion laws passed later

2:58:56 All right, John C. Dvorak your commentary go ahead. This is a Democrats though What was the fuss about? They all they had to do was just go to the legislature and say let's just pass a quick law to ban that old 1840 law and we'll just have abortions that you know what modeled after whatever California for example They could have done a lot of things but no they got in all these crazy lawsuits one way or the other They have a, it's a Democrat-run state. What is their problem? They can't get off their asses to do a simple legislative move?! I don't know! The whole thing is stupid! Okay...I have no idea what's going on. I had the clip too but I don't know You'd think that it would be and well they're doing odd things there

2:59:43 Maybe they wanted to make a big fuss. They want to bring it to the fore. Oh, so laws. It's all fat. This is Trump's fault. This is bull crap Final clip for me. I thought this was a interesting move from You pen this morning the University of Pennsylvania reversing course saying it will now ban Transgender athletes and strip trans swimmer Leah Thomas of her swimming titles the school reaching a deal with the Trump administration Saying it will comply with title 9 as interpreted by the Department of Education And saying it will restore the records and titles of female athletes who lost to Thomas and send apology letters to them

3:00:23 Thomas made history in 2022 becoming the first openly transgender athlete to win an NCAA Division One title. The wins sparked fierce debate over fairness, including from some of Thomas's own teammates. I knew there would be scrutiny against me if I competed as a woman. I was prepared for that. The Trump administration earlier this year suspended $175 million in federal funds from Penn, claiming the University of Pennsylvania repeatedly violated civil rights laws by allowing men to compete in women's sports. Education Secretary Linda McMahon calling Penns new agreement a major victory for women and girls nationwide no comment yet from the NCAA or Leah Thomas but in a 2022 interview she defended her decision to compete trans people

3:01:14 don't transition for athletics. We just want to be able to live our lives." The NCAA still recognizes her championship win, but Penn has removed her swimming records from its website. I mean wow! That's more than... I don't understand why they don't think i'm a girl What do you think happened there? How did that all of a sudden change and you Penn? I mean what must have happened? Somebody looked at the books They don't have the endowment Harvard has and they figure they couldn't wait it out. It's the simplest thing to do, you crazy... Why are you going to fight this like the way Harvard is doing all the way? It's gonna cost you a lot of money. It's embarrassing."

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3:18:21 You know, I bought a sweater in the Andes. When I was a kid, I bought a sweater in the Andes... You should just start off every conversation! You know when I bought a sweater in the Andes on my way to Doha and so it was like what they use for black dye is not compatible with Western civilization let's put that way okay all right So get the colors, the colors are fine But these blankets are available, they have them on Amazon. There's a couple companies that make them. Make sure they're handmade alpaca blanket. It's the greatest and also you can use them as a spread, bed spread. They're dynamite! Dynamite, they are super warm, just fabulous product and I'm gonna now push it promote the alpaca blanket. And where do we get the alpaca blanket? You can get em...

3:19:15 Well, you can go to Amazon and find some there. And they have the brands there. You can also look up the brands. You can buy them directly from various sources. You put out pack a blanket Peru, a pack of blanket Ecuador and deal finds some online sites that sell them. They're all over the place. They're actually very available. It'll be very nice if he promoted in American product once in awhile I mean it's always junk from China. It's always rugs from all their cleaning products have been American Really? Oh, yeah. Of course chemicals were your guy was good with a chemical We're good with the camera we are a chemical country that's right there it is everybody go to tip of the day net for John C. DeVore X tip of the day And sometimes

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3:21:49 The guy ain't even a boomer, roughly the same age as that sexy Laura Loomer. Wake up already our world is fake and petty Adam Curry hates the AI machines Resist what's inevitable you'll never stay credible He hates AI and the mainframe regime Spot the spook on the jocks spot them all in the troll room

3:22:30 So go learn AI in a hurry! I mean, i'm just gonna allow AI songs for the end of show mix now because you're right. Okay okay...I'm not going to criticize you for this You can't Because that's not really a criticism You cave to modernity To MTV's bright lights he made his stand But Adam Curry saw a future wild and free A world where anyone could speak just like he did

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