Stick Fight

00:00 Load up on the Indians. I'm Adam Curry. Here from Northern Silicon Valley where it's apparent that Trump's ploy worked, we have an American Pope! I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Clagbott and Buzzkill in the morning! Yeah i'm kind of mad at myself... In hindsight like how obvious could he have made it? Clearly he was on the- He had the inside track

00:45 Very suspicious. My Catholic friends don't understand this thinking of mine when I say, oh Trump was telegraphing it all along to me what do you mean? What do you mean? Well we have an American Pope that was if anything that wasn't that guy a long shot what were the odds on him? Might have to go back and look Wow man it's like no that was completely unexpected He was not up there in the top five No So my prediction streak is broken, I can no longer be like, I predicted Pope's... Streak of one. It was a long streak! It took many years. Well it was actually. It was a long streak. Uh so the jury seems to still kind of be out on this guy. Um um uh... He looks a little like Fauci. Well there's that he's from Chicago strike two. Chicago? He's a Bear fan. Maybe

01:42 Some are saying, well he sounds a bit like a Francis Jr., you know. He was kind of wishy-washy about some scandals... who knows? Well he could also reignite the faith all across the country! You don't know it could go... Don't laugh this is obviously our hope and prayer. Reignited. Light it up Pope! Light it up now Well, it's just interesting. I... You know? It's like is America now are we on the comeback? Is it all complete? We've got Pope Trump doing a trade deal with the Vatican tomorrow! What do we buy from them?! Don't think we buy anything from them. Crucifixes. Rosary beads. Well that might be an appropriate... So viva la papa! Congratulations everybody Why did you name yourself Leo Laporte?

02:39 That one I had not come up with, that's a good one. Well speaking of tariffs we might as well get into it with the most important tariff of all everybody is flipping out! We're all freaking out what? In Hollywood the reviews are in for President Trumps plan to impose 100% tariffs on movies shown outside the US. It's getting panned Are you worried for your industry Yeah, I'm worried for the industry. I am worried for my livelihood Monique white is executive vice president and California Pictures a Los Angeles based distributor of independent distributor yeah of course who cares if the distributors aren't getting tariffed

03:21 No, I think that's exactly who will get tariffed. If it comes in from overseas... Oh because you mean the- oh yeah well I have my thoughts on this but yes they're producing a lot of- The first thing I thought was these are foreign films who cares? Let's finish the clip Los Angeles based distributor of independent films It's either going to put a nail in the coffin or its going to incentivize us to figure out alternative ways to do production The Motion Picture Association says the U.S already exports triple the film content that it imports with a more than $15 billion surplus in 2023 CBS News has confirmed that actor John Voight, one of the president's special ambassadors to Hollywood came up with the terrified idea They've given financing by other countries they have given a lot of things

04:09 and the industry was decimated. Movies like Mission Impossible often seek out exotic locales for filming White told us tariffs would hurt more than just a bottom line It's stifling creativity so if someone wants to shoot something that's got a certain backdrop you can't shoot it here you have to go to the authentic place. It is unclear what the tariffs would be based on production costs box office receipts or something else. The people you're talking to, the insiders do they really think this is going to happen? I'm not sure To be honest everybody is very afraid that's for sure. Everybody's very worried So if this comes to reality then this could all just go away tomorrow, so This is such a well-known fact in Hollywood Hollywood is empty It's a shell because everybody shooting up in Vancouver they're shooting in all kinds of foreign countries These are American movies They're not making it America anymore and the whole point of Hollywood as location was A for the light and

05:07 and B for the creativity of re-creating, you know fake nanu nanu creating places that look like you were there, that looked like you filmed it. They have the whole back lot of Warner Brothers is all kinds of different little towns I think this is a phenomenal idea and long overdue anyone who's like oh Trump's no good they should they should be quiet this is going to bring back filmmaking to America we could Texas has all kinds of incentives they still can't Austin used to be really big on that. They still can't lure productions into Texas just because of all the incentives, quite frankly the payoffs of other countries. Yeah, the bribes! The bribes yeah it's so obvious. In Spain... Hollywood people all have homes in Canada if they're working regularly cause everything is happening up north

06:02 It's happening everywhere, but in America. I met more people when I was flying to Vancouver because they used to write for up there and they go to Vancouver quite often and so if I caught a... If i was in Vancouver and I was taking a Friday flight out of Vancouver Yeah The place is filled with all these actors Packed! I talked to a whole bunch of different people it's like flying on Friday to Vegas packed with hookers everybody knows this it's the same thing Packed with hooker So, oh man. Oh we're talking about this? Oh no! This is a great idea We invented this and by the way how about your AI and your CGI and all that stuff You don't need to go these places make it in America where we invented the entertainment industry CNN here's what they're saying so for all of us at home Can you actually tariff something that's not a physical product

06:54 In the sense of, in the traditional sense of how you think about a tariff. A physical good coming across the border getting stamped by CBP, a company paying the tax that you have to pay. Yeah but a fee is a fee people charge me fees all the time. So what does this look like for the consumer? Probably higher prices but like how it gets distributed to the company that's putting the film out. So literally who do you charge? Are you saying that because yeah, who makes the movie how and what is the mechanism in which they are charged? You know most of the series and movies that I see streaming because we flip around it's all crime and death and gratuitous sex

07:41 A lot of gay sex. Even the shows you like, oh you gotta watch this but beware of episode two. Gay sex? What was that show I had to stop watching. It was totally gratuitous! But the show sucked after a couple episodes. Yeah all they had was buttsex. They were doing gay buttsex for no reason it was the one with The Assassin in London or was it Blackbird or whatever... something else So, you know it's like come on. We have Sodom and Gomorrah all over! All our cities are! You don't even need to do anything just roll the camera but you want a futuristic hellscape? I can name a couple of cities you can go to right now

08:26 No, oh this could be one of them but it's Trump's. Oh no So California governor Gavin Newsom popped up he was like what? Hello industry and he proposed something that the industry is already very used to which is a tax credit He wants a seven point five billion dollar tax credit To incentivize the film industry to create more films to film them here in the US and I have to say there was this kind of post-labor strike flight from California when companies were like, I'm gonna go make my streaming project somewhere else. So the industry's hurting right? Right, so I think this is President Trump has taken the stick approach and something... The industry's not- the industry's hurting because of the whole model has changed with streaming companies that's why the industry is hurting right? Like a tax incentive would be the carrot approach and it's so interesting because this conversation

09:22 parallels with the one that's happening in the goods sector. Manufacturers get inputs from abroad are asking, you know we want to make more stuff here we'd love too but it's not that easy and instead of hitting us with a stick can we get Can we get a carrot? You just begging for carrots here. It's only Tuesday, Courtney! Okay?! I mean that's... yes that's what this is. These people can do nothing but complain Exactly this is a tax incentive it's an incentive to make them in America I don't want to sound all red white and bonkers here but yes this is a tax incentive

09:58 NPR, the red white and bonkers. NPR took it to the extreme though The film industry started the week with a little confusion That was after President Trump announced on Truth Social that he was imposing a 100% tariff on movies produced outside of the US On Sunday night he posted that quote The movie industry in America is dying a very fast death Other countries are offering all sorts of incentives To draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States unquote NPR Entertainment correspondent Mandalit Delbarco joins us now to talk about this. So, you know, the basic question is probably going to spring up more questions so how would a 100% tariff on films made outside of the US actually work?

10:47 Yeah, that's exactly what everyone in Hollywood and in film and TV industries around the world would like to know. President Trump's initial announcement was surprising it left so many questions who would have to pay a tariff? The studios, film distributors will ticket prices go up with this before international films or for American films shooting or filming on location or on sound stages around the world What about TV and streaming shows There have been a lot of emergency closed door meetings, group chats and social media speculation. Studios have been quiet so far but the head of IATSE, the union representing behind-the-scenes entertainment workers says any plan must not harm the US or Canadian film industries Yeah well...I want Fran Drescher to come out and start going, Mr Trump! I can't wait But of course this is not this is all because

11:37 of his friends. The president says other countries are offering incentives to attract movie studios and filmmakers, so can you tell us about the incentives that he was referring to? I know that you have been reporting on this Yeah that's right and it's true that for decades places like Canada, UK Australia really all over the world they've offered productions generous tax incentives rebates in grants to shoot or film in their countries some even built new sound stages to entice production wanting cut costs. Trump says the global incentives are a threat to the national security. Okay, so what are people overseas saying about this announcement from Trump? You can imagine A, studios and unions around the world are worried that this could spell the end of their own production industries. Some wonder if countries will retaliate with their own tariffs on American films. Yesterday President Trump told reporters he wants to meet the film industry in this country to make sure they're happy with his plan to bring back showbiz jobs

12:32 Hollywood doesn't do very much of that business. They have the nice side and everything's good, but they don't do very much Yeah so here is the clip about his friends Alright why you think this issue came up at all for President Trump? Well, I'll give you a hint. John Voigt Trump calls the actor one of his special ambassadors along with Silver... John Voigt universally hated by Hollywood! Universally hated by Hollywood but oh no John Voight yes he's to blame okay. ...Stallone and Mel Gibson in a video shared with NPR Voigt calls Trump the greatest president since Abe Lincoln and his friend who loves the entertainment business wants to see Hollywood thrive and make films bigger and greater than ever before.

13:16 Now, John Voigt says he presented Trump a plan to rescue the American film industry with federal tax incentives co-production treaties with other countries and subsidies for theater owners and film and TV production companies. Late last week, Voight also met with California Senator Ben Allen who coauthored a state bill that would expand film and TV incentives along with California Governor Gavin Newsom's plan to more than double the state's production tax credits Trump blamed the governor for allowing productions to leave California But late last night Newsom said in a statement that he wants to team up with the Trump administration To create a 7.5 billion dollar federal film tax credit Everyone's all they've got all their panties in a bunch is great They gotten thinking you know, let's talk about ourselves a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's all John Boyd's fault NPR by the way, they're making content for morons

14:18 When it's certainly when I are you still there? Yeah. What do you mean well listen to this about tariffs just it short Treasury Secretary Scott Besson will meet Chinese economic officials this weekend in Switzerland. Besson says they'll likely talk about de-escalating the tariffs between the two nations President Trump's trade war is taking a toll on cargo traffic across the Pacific Ocean. As NPR Scott Horsley reports, a significant number of the ships that were supposed to dock this month at the Port of Los Angeles have been cancelled. Rather than pay tariffs of 145 percent many importers have put shipments from China on hold The number of import containers passing through the port of LA this week is down about 35% from a year ago

15:01 While businesses tried to stockpile goods before the terrorist took effect, The Port's Executive Director Gene Sirocco expects those inventories will start to run out in four to six weeks. So if you go to the store and you're looking for a blue shirt, You may see a bunch of purple ones. You may not see that blue one in your size or style and probably it will be more expensive than it was previously. Sirocco says the trade war is also hurting exports with fruit nut and wine growers in California's Central Valley reporting a steep drop in overseas sales Scott Horsley NPR News Washington No blue shirt for you! It'll be purple I mean seriously

15:39 These people are, you know... Not to moan about him but Horowitz is like this too. I heard the show by the way i reached out to him and really tried to help with his sound issues He's got a Rube Goldberg machine rigged up there Like what are you doing? Well you know I'd like to post edit everything on separate tracks And put on special little sauce on each of John's voice and my voice and everybody else's You're nuts But he's, I heard him like... There are no containers. 25% less containers there is no ships and you Mr Dry Man have you noticed anything? No! No! Yeah i am pushing back against his hair on fire approach to the whole thing. I love it It's like, seriously, it truly just junk Most of the stuff we get is just junk

16:37 That's all. Now, then we'll have less junk I have one more from NBC, meet the press. Let me ask you about Mattel if i can because I think this is where the rubber meets the road for... Yes! The rubber meets the road! Oh, the rubber meets the road with Mattel! By the way, the CEO of Mattel? He's like a weird guy he's like, it's a German I talk like this yes we'd like to make toys for children It's like uh yeah one of our guys A lot of American consumers right? The CEO of Mattel is running Mattel Comic strip bloggers running Mattel. He'd probably do a better job A lot of American consumers right the CEO of Mattel said that he does not expect manufacturing to move to the US But does expect that consumers here will pay more can you walk us through that? I mean, that's what we're hearing broadly from companies right now whether it's in private or publicly making those sort of assessments

17:33 Well, the analogy is relevant because we just heard from the president a few days ago described the situation for Americans as one where you might not be able to buy $30 for your daughter. You'll only be able to buy two and maybe those two will cost a few more dollars and essentially what Mattel is saying is that's exactly what's going to happen here because they said- Oh no! They might have to take pricing that's the kind of corporate speak if you will for having to raise the price tags at- Thank oh my gosh and meet the press thank you for this inside lingo lesson Pricing is code for raising the price. Thank you That's the kind of corporate speak if you will for having to raise the price tags at the store for not just Barbies But also things like Hot Wheels that Mattel produces as well What's also interesting though about the politics of all this is that, as the president is trying to use these tariffs to essentially whack The American companies with incentives to produce here domestically, we have companies that are saying yes certainly We're gonna try

18:24 move things around so we don't have to pay 145% tariff on things coming out of China. But instead of moving into the US, we're just going to move it to other places in the world." That's what Mattel said in their earnings call they're gonna try and diversify away from China but they didn't say will come to the U S there is going to be with other countries kind of similar story with Apple and other companies that are very much been a very much been in the spotlight here with regards to whether or not they're producing here in the US. They're just saying yeah We're just gonna not do it in China was moved to another country. Wow, thank you! That's the whole plan dude! Where is that from? That was Meet The Press NBC. It sounded more like CNBC guy and too much coffee I tried to clip the CNBC lady with the CEO of Mattel but he was just... Well you know and just going on well you know we have been waiting for this We've been prepared for many many quarters we are a great company

19:22 You sell plastic stuff to children. It may be important for people invest in the companies, but I just don't see the importance in the big scheme of life. I don't understand why they have nothing there that make nothing here is an American company. Yes. They're El Segundo. Yes! I know. They started in 1945 and American company they make nothing here thanks for that I knew a woman who worked there. She was high up in the marketing department when they had the female CEO, they kicked her out...I mean the female CEO. Just like no she didn't do it good. She tried to all kinds of weird stuff with the Barbie if I recall

20:06 She might have done the trans Barbie. Didn't we have that at some point? The trans Barbie?! I think so! I don't think so... I think we did! That's funny though, it is a good idea. I have a feeling we did have a trans Barbie. No, I could be wrong. The company was incorporated in Hawthorne in 1948 and their big hit was the one that really got them going made by them. The Magic 8 Ball! Ooh! Really? 1950 yeah Oh, that's cool I had one, but had a Magic 8-Ball when i was kid. I think still do So on that topic just because you are the one who is very closely involved with a young person of Mattel product using age What did you wind up getting for Theodoreable for his birthday? Well this is we can't tell you because it's birthday party That where he gets his gifts which was of course he's a Sanko to Mayo baby

21:01 It won't be till this Friday. What? He's listening to the show and you're gonna blow the surprise or you just haven't bought anything yet No, no we got a whole bunch of stuff But what did you get? Mostly toys that have something to do with Minecraft Oh Okay, I thought you were getting him socks. I was gonna get socks but then Mimi bought a bunch of stuff and I said oh I'll just put my name on half of this You told me after the show i'm gonna get him a sweater and then socks. I'm like you are the worst grandfather ever! That's the best feeling that I should be getting to be at the granddad and get the kid socks And in the other joke was I told Jay I think I'm gonna get them a bottle of wine

21:42 I told you, like do not get the kids socks and a sweater. These are going to resent you! In fact i sent you a link to the 130 projects in one did you see that? Yeah no No why no? Yes no yes okay well I thought that was a good idea it is a good idea and I'm gonna get him for Christmas somebody getting that gift okay But so you basically Mimi went out and bought a whole bunch of junk from China for him. That's way to get Exactly, a bunch of junk from China I love that before the tariffs, you know just getting under the wire come on. I'm not crazy I love that your they're indoctrinating him into the long-standing Dvorak family tradition of not celebrating on the day itself No kid you gonna celebrate on Friday

22:33 That's did he got a celebration. He had his birthday party with his little friends over there at the other place Where as friends brought him cheap junk from China? No doubt no doubt hey today is ve day nobody's talking about that no Today and tomorrow is both there's two v days one turns out. There's one today We got no donations for it, but There's one today victory in Europe day that was ours and England's but the Russians call it the ninth They say is the 9th and Russians are ones who beat the Germans not us. The Russians are celebrating today But they're not celebrating that they are celebrating something else Do you know what? They celebrate on the 8th of May this is very

23:15 They celebrate the 8th. Yes, correct! Mongolia's president touches down in Moscow The latest in a succession of heads of state to arrive ahead of festivities marking the 80th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany Not all of them had smooth journeys getting there after Russia and Ukraine traded a barrage of drone attacks ...deserted hundreds of flights. The Kremlin was forced to say it was taking all necessary measures to ensure the safety of foreign leaders, more than two dozen of whom are expected at Russia's flagship Victory Day parade... an opportunity into the bargain for President Vladimir Putin to hold bilateral meetings with the likes of Brazil, Serbia and Venezuela. I would like to convey to you the special feelings of admiration of the Venezuelan people

24:02 Eight years after the victory in the Great Patriotic War. We have promising areas of cooperation, they are obvious." But the main guest as Vladimir Putin called him is Chinese President Xi Jinping who's in town for four days A hundred or so soldiers from China's army rehearsed in Moscow ahead of the military parade Friday their participation highlighting the ever closer relationship between the two countries. Better display the friendship between China and Russia We've also learned to perform classic Russian songs. Russia's become increasingly dependent economically on China, as Western countries have sought to diplomatically isolate Putin after Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Western leaders from key Allied victors in World War II will not be attending on Friday—not even Donald Trump who nonetheless hasn't ruled out visiting Moscow someday. It's 80 on the 8th!

24:52 I didn't know they celebrated that. The 80th anniversary of the fall of the Third Reich, so they celebrate a day early and everybody flew in! Yeah well... Everybody came in for the party Yes but our people we don't even here's the BBC report this VE Day BBC Well isn't that Poppy Day? Don't they wear the poppies? I think that poppy days is something else. Armistice. I think it's World War One. Yeah, sorry wrong war. Events will take place across Europe on Thursday to mark the 80th anniversary of VE Day On the 8th May in 1945 radio announcements in France and Britain declared the war against Nazi Germany had ended The anniversary will be marked in Russia on Friday

25:39 I just remembered why the woman got fired at Mattel. She tried to make the life-like Barbie, that's what it was. The nipples? Well no! That would have been more life like than the cheap Barbie doll they have now. No regular length legs, paunchy... Oh that is not good. They look like a runt. Yeah yeah, that is what she tried to do. Life-like Barbie uh no nobody wants that Nobody wants that So anyway, back to the VE day. Yes? It's like 80th anniversary of the end of the war beat Hitler all this where's our we got nothing

26:18 No. Well, didn't President Trump declare something? He must have declared something I don't know that he had all you did this morning he was on talking yak-yak-yak and the complete morning took over a couple of shows on Fox yeah victory day a proclamation hey listen talking about today's time at the deal with UK they had to trade deal oh I have the Keir Starmer clips this was great hold on a second wait where is Kier Starmer This was so funny. Was it under tariffs for some reason? Oh, wait thought I had a Keir Starmer clip here Yes No that's old huh? Well now I know I have Carney but I thought I had Kier well I do have a different Keir clip which was equally disturbing only for India which we probably should talk about and

27:20 India and Pakistan are about to blow each other up. Here's GB News about the latest deal Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister of Britain made with India. Has Sir Keir Starmer just sold Britain to the Indians without a single shot being fired? The prime minister announced a bumper new trade deals. Bumper! This is an historic day for the United Kingdom and for India Because this is the biggest trade deal that we, the UK have done since we left the EU. And it's the most ambitious trade deal that India has ever done and this will be measured in billions of pounds into our economy and jobs across the whole of the United Kingdom

28:06 So it is a really important, significant day. The Prime Minister said that it's fantastic news for British business, British workers and British shoppers and then the whole thing seemed to unravel! The Indian government released a statement Hailing it as a massive win when it came to helping Indians move to Britain. It's emerged that Indian workers who moved to Britain and British workers going to India will pay no national insurance for the first three years. Stormont & Reeves raised national insurance for Brits Well what could this mean? A huge influx of Indian workers into Britain. Employers can pay them less so fewer jobs for British workers and lower wages for British workers. Labour says this doesn't change the immigration rules, the Indian government says it does

28:53 Indian yogis, musicians and chefs will be able to apply for UK skilled worker visas. So if you're Indian... Are they going to take the yogi jobs away from the Brits? No but the point is yes they will because... That was a joke! Yeah I know but doesn't matter probably more tech jobs finance jobs Because they literally pay less tax. He is stimulating Indian immigration, the last thing the British people want! No, the British people they don't want to be British anymore. They want nothing but Pakistanis and Indians and Africans running the country That's why my buddy Michelle is selling the club! He's selling the club he's getting out. He's selling the club? He's giving up? Yep, I can't do it... He says i'm selling the club there's nothing but.. But uh, I don't wanna repeat exactly what he said. I'm sure was very racist and mean Very racist about clientele

29:52 And, you know and in general he says people aren't going out anymore. They can't afford it with all these rules and regulations selling the club is moving to permanently to the south of France. Yeah. The south of France. There we go. He's done! I can't do it anymore. This will only make it worse. You know what? It was interesting because the Netherlands had this when I moved back in 99' and I didn't know this at that time But I got a 30% tax break in the Netherlands because they were trying to get Americans to move to Holland. And I paid 30 percent less tax just because of my passport." Then, did you still have to pay American taxes? No we have a trade deal so if you pay taxes overseas and there's a deal, a tax deal then you don't have to pay double-tax

30:48 So I just paid less taxes because it was a stimulative measure, which i didn't know anything about at the time. So this is exactly what they're doing and... Load up on the Indians! Yes that's about it. By the way President Trump did proclaim yesterday Victory Day for World War II or today he proclaimed it today By the virtue and authority vested in him by the Constitution of the laws United States do hereby proclaim May 8th, today 2025 as a day in celebration of Victory Day for World War II. So he's all-in! Yeah celebrate what's the celebration consists of? Nothing everyone went to Russia He couldn't... Everyone else said I'm sorry I wanted to come to the White House but I already told Vladimir I'd show up at his place so you understand don't ya that's what happened well

31:47 Alright, I'll take us off with a quick overview of India versus Pakistan because this is starting to look pretty bad Now two rising tensions between Indian and Pakistan India firing missions missiles at Pakistan after terrorist attacks in the acclaimed origin originated from Pakistani territory our chief for correspondent Ian panel has the latest good morning in Yeah, good morning Michael. These two nuclear armed nations exchanging fire overnight and again this morning. It fears this could spiral out of control. India firing missiles into Pakistan striking nine targets. Pakistan saying 26 people have been killed over 40 others wounded calling it an act of war saying its military has been authorized to respond. India insisting its attack was measured non-escalatory and that no military facilities were hit just what it calls

32:37 terrorist infrastructure. India's strikes are coming in response to that deadly attack on tourists in Indian-controlled Kashmir last month, that left more than two dozen people dead. India blaming Pakistan militants but Pakistan now saying it shot down five Indian fighter jets overnight and hit military targets there no evidence has been produced. No evidence! It is a highly volatile situation dangerous for both sides China and the US both urging restraint Now, if I... they didn't report this but if I understood it was Pakistan who attacked in the disputed Kashmir region and killed like 20 plus tourists right? Isn't that what kicked all of this off? Well that's my understanding of something like that. The reporting is piss poor Is there a beach or something in Kashmir? What is the attraction of vacationing in the Kashmir region

33:31 It's got to be the weather. I guess, i've never considered it! Okay what do you have? I got two reports but let's play this there's the BBC World Service This Pakistan India long version. This is the 20s long by too long this that they get they Okay, the BBC World Service is interesting Let me explain what they how do you do their reporting first? They do it there will do it They'll do three versions of the exact same story The first version which is usually pretty good. It's very concise. It's about nine seconds There's war in the Kashmir region

34:13 And then there is the 30 second longer one, which is the one I have here. And then they go on to like one that goes on for six seven eight minutes where they break it down and they yak yak yak and you don't get anything more than a second version This kind of semi-long version gives you all the details they're really gonna ever have. Here it is... Pakistan's Prime Minister has said the country's military had made its reply following last night's Indian missile strikes on targets in Pakistan and Pakistan administered Kashmir Speaking during an address to the nation, Shabazz Sharif referred to Pakistan's earlier claim that it had shot down five Indian fighter jets and he said Delhi had misjudged Pakistan's determination to fight back. India has not confirmed the reports I mean Pakistan was literally saying for days they're gonna strike they're gonna strike they're gonna strike and they did! I don't think they underestimated anything They knew it was coming It is a mess

35:17 And if you're in India, they have these stick fights. You know about this? They didn't even get any reports on it. Stick fights?! You don't know about the stick fight? No! It's like they have right at the border there some sort of a borders dispute here throughout Kashmir and they come out that one...the Pakistani and Indian both came out with sticks And then they start fighting each other as everybody watches. Really? And then the winner of that fight goes back and the next challenger comes out... And then they send an F-16! At some point, they drop an A bomb but it starts with these stick fights Wow that's like so juvenile we used to have stick fights rock fights hmm I don't know what you're up too I have the NPR report if you can bear it It is not long luckily

36:08 Yeah, let's hear it. That doesn't sound like a stick to me that sounds like a fighter jet taking off. Nice snap pop! India struck multiple targets across Pakistan in the most extensive strikes in more than 50 years It comes after India blamed Pakistan for an attack that killed 26 people in late April Pakistan denies any connection. Its military has retaliated by firing into parts of Indian-held Kashmir and it claims it has downed five Indian aircraft The Associated Press reports that more than 30 people were killed in Pakistan India says three people were killed on their side

36:45 On the line with us is NPR's Dia Hadid. She covers Pakistan and India from her base in Mumbai. Dia, tell us about these strikes that happened overnight there? Well India's army says it struck militant training camps and what they call terror infrastructure and many of those strikes were in Pakistani-held Kashmir but Pakistan says the strike mostly hit mosques and part of a hydropower dam One prominent Pakistani militant says one of the strikes targeted his relatives and killed 14 people including women and children. And that was in a small town in southern Pakistan. Stop, stop the clip! The way she presents this she says but the strikes only hit mosques and a dam Yeah it doesn't count It's just mosques and a dam

37:32 Yeah, it's pretty substantial. Well I think what she is saying is that it didn't kill people because she goes straight into the killed the guys and wiped out the guy's family this is so typical of war reporting you know what kind was glossed over here was India said we didn't do it It could be false flags going on. Pakistan said we didn't do it, I'm sorry. Well the point is that there could be false flags every which way... Yes! But why? This whole thing of the stick fighting The whole thing could just be bull crap and she's in Mumbai with no where near he's not walking distance that's for sure to Kashmir The whole thing is like who you know once you would be reporting from Sacramento I mean this ludicrous. I want a report on the stick fights

38:20 I mean, what a great angle. It is. Well, let's finish this and many of those strikes were in Pakistani held Kashmir But Pakistan says the strikes mostly hit mosques and part of a hydropower dam One prominent Pakistani militant says one of the strikes targeted his relatives and killed 14 people including women and children And that was in a small town in southern Pakistan and it's really important to say here where these strikes took place some would deep in Pakistan one was near the country second largest city and Yeah, there's no I can't find anything on the stick fights. That's an angle i'm very interested in Here's this the second follow-up to this about what is coming next now could all this maybe quiet down or do folks? There expect more military actions. I guess the problem here is with strikes so deep in pakistan and with this death toll Pakistan may feel like it must respond to show people that its army isn't weak

39:18 So analyst Pravin Danti with the International Crisis Group says other countries have to step in. I'm afraid if the international community doesn't step in, especially the US then we're only seeing the beginning of these escalatory strikes For now President Trump has said he hopes this ends quickly and Secretary of State Marco Rubio says he's closely monitoring the situation Yeah All right. Rubio, I'm monitoring it! Okay... It doesn't really mean anything and meanwhile we hear nothing on this is total silence now on Ukraine We don't know what's going on there Oh even though actually I do have Queen Ursa- We have Russian new attacks we can play that's another BBC clip Let's try that one you have two versions of it

40:14 Yeah, they're both exactly the same time. I think it's the same clip. Let me see... Just play New Attacks BBC. The Ukrainian Air Force says Russian aircraft launched guided bombs on the Sumy region of northern Ukraine shortly after a Kremlin-sponsored unilateral ceasefire officially took effect. The Ukrainian claim hasn't been confirmed Russia says its three day ceasefire is timed to coincide with Second World War commemorations Kyiv rejects the truce but has repeated its call for a longer 30-day ceasefire. The Ukrainian MP, Lysi Yasko said that a short ceasefire was pointless

40:50 Three days cost nothing to him. It costs like, oh a joke you know? To have longer ceasefire depending on what is the militaristic and personal goal for Kremlin can be possible but there is no single sign that they are going to do that anytime soon So let me ask you a question, an historical question about Russia and Russian gas or let's just call it Russian energy being sent to Europe. In your recollection did Russia use that as a kludge continuously against Europe saying we're going to shut it off? We're going to shut it off? No Do you ever recall I mean I remember

41:33 I think it might have been you. My memory starts with, and this probably had a little bit to do with when I was working in an oil refinery but my memory goes back to the point that before Russia had any energy sector that was worth a crap we kept trying to beg, borrow and steal to get in and help Russia produce their energy sector up. Get it out! Up and out yeah And because it was assumed that they had more, again this is just off the top of my head. I don't remember the details but it was assumed that they had more

42:14 gross energy total than Saudi Arabia. Sure that they were just sitting on because they didn't have American and European or especially American expertise on how to get out, get it up pump it out and ship it all over the place And so we kept begging to get in a bag gonna get in after the fall of communism at some point Gorbachev or somebody let the Chevron and all these guys, these hotshots go in there and teach the Russians how to do it. And from then on they became... They said look at all this free money we're getting because they just started pumping like crazy! They weren't using it as leverage, they were using it to make money. And they got pretty rich during that period I don't know that they've ever threatened to stop it So if I just look back in our archive of clips The only one that comes close

43:05 I don't think they ever really ever really used it as a, I mean they were. It was like the Germans loved it because they were getting gas. Yeah Merkel and don't forget Merkel and Putin both spoke German and both spoke French or not French but Russian she spoke fluent Russian yeah and they got along famously and they started doing...the Germans were smart enough to get as much of that cheap gas as they could because it was just straight shot

43:44 Did something happen? And what they loved doing was, they loved sending the gas to Germany and Germany would send Mercedes Benz's back. That was kind of the round robin they all love so Ursula Queen Ursula in the European Parliament this past week she is changing history and she is now making it sound like this war was because Russia was playing Kind of smart games with their gas and you know that was that was a problem She even gives us the years when it happened I also know that some are still saying that we should reopen the tap of Russian gas and oil this would be a mistake of historic dimensions And we would never let it happen. This has to be very clear too Yes, because listen up

44:35 Russia has proven time and again that it is not a reliable supplier. Putin has already cut gas flows to Europe in 2006, 2009 2014 2021 and throughout the war how many times before they learned the lesson? Really dependency on Russia is not only... We talked about this a lot in the show's been on for so long we can do this yeah great It was they weren't paying their bills. Yes, Ukraine wasn't paying the bill that's yes That's the only thing I remember Ukraine was and they'd still let it go through and this and they kept a the Russians kept saying hey You know you really got to pay your bill you already really gotta pay your bill And but they kept the gas flowing at all times I can remember this yeah now she's saying 2021 2022 when did we blow up the Nord Stream pipeline? When did when did we do that that certainly stopped Russian gas

45:31 Now this is a lie. Dependency on Russia is not only bad for our security, but also for our economy. Our energy prices cannot be dictated by a hostile neighbor. Well they're being dictated by you with your windmills and your solar panels! Hitler in drag Hitler was smarter than this. He didn't ruin the economy that way, they ruined it in other ways you know killed a bunch of the people in the economy but she's going crazy over there because now she's taken

46:22 What President Trump is doing with the endowment, and about not giving money to universities who have a hundred billion dollars sitting around. Giving them money whereas they're spending almost nothing on making it cheaper for kids to get an education. The education in what? Is the next question Instead, you know all these young students are all indebted for the rest of their life and she turns that around and says Trump hates science! Making Europe a magnet for researchers. This is the ambition of the Choose Europe strategy presented by the president of the European Commission at the Sorbonne University in Paris Although she did not explicitly refer to the attacks on academic freedom in the US... Attacks? Oh oh it's attacks on academic freedom

47:14 Which apparently is in the constitution. Attacks on academic freedom, this is rich! At the Sorbonne University in Paris Although she did not explicitly refer to the attacks on academic freedom in the US Ursula von der Leyen announced that she wanted to enshrine the freedom of scientific research In a new European act The first priority What a farce. This is great, now listen to what she has to say here. Is to ensure that science in Europe remains open and free. Free! This is our calling card we must do everything we can to uphold it now more than ever before

47:58 We want to strengthen the free movement of knowledge and data across Europe, just as we do for goods talents and capital across our single market. The European Commission puts on the table a 500 million euro package. The long-term objective is to spend 3% of EU GDP on research & development investment by 2030 However researchers believe that there are other elements to be considered Anybody who comes in, they come into one country. They should also then be able to move to any other country with their pensions and all their entitlements. So those are two things mobility infrastructure and funding Finally the commission wants to cut red tape to support research and innovation even though clear laws can be an asset according to this researcher

48:45 We have that regulatory certainty that is missing in a lot of other places and especially in the US. And I think this can give, not only should it give more confidence to consumers but may also give more confidence to researchers and business people... I'm glad you caught that. That was my question too, it's like this is good for consumers to have your tax money be spent on a bunch of people testing stuff on mice not against scientific research but let's be a little realistic here we have that regulatory certainty that is missing in a lot of other places and especially in the US and I think this can give not only should give more confidence to consumers but may also give more confidence to researchers and to businesspeople

49:27 They know the limits and the opportunities that they have given. He's just babbling! It's a bunch of intellectuals looking for a free ride, there is money! For his part Emmanuel Macron announced that the French state would invest an additional 100 million euros in R&D by 2030. The French president was more direct in his condemnation, not hesitating to call the abolition of research programs in the United States a mistake on the pretext that they used the term diversity." Oh okay so Trump very bad because you look different he doesn't want to fund you that's the message okay Macron have you seen your wife? Not to be mean about it

50:12 You're mean. I'm very mean." And then Mr Peepers, whoa! This was a very European move. Mr Peepers was not elected Bundeskanzler by his own coalition and they did the typical European thing You need to vote over because you voted wrong. Conservative leader Friedrich Merz has been elected the new German Chancellor in the second round of voting in the Bundestag His previous failure to win support in the German Parliament was the first in the country's post-war history Merz needed a majority of 316 out of 630 votes

50:53 well short of the 328 seats held by his coalition. That coalition is led by Mertz's center-right Christian Democratic Union and its Bavarian sister party, the Christian Social Union They were joined by former Chancellor Olaf Scholz' centre left social democrats Because the first round was a secret ballot, it was not immediately clear and might never be known who had defected from Mertz's camp. The far-right Alternative for Germany has demanded Mertz step aside and called for fresh elections following his historic defeat. What are the chances someone went around at night said hey look at this picture?

51:33 I think you voted wrong. Was only the first round secret and the second one wasn't? Is that what they did? That's what they kind of hinted at, yeah. Oh well now that it is not a secret ballot I better get in line with the party. Europe is sick! I feel very bad for all my European friends. It's just sick They brought it on themselves. I know, well yes because they don't stand up and say hey enough with this Enough! Nope they don't. Boy no it saddens me I have to say Okay well what else we got? I got a lot of Pope clips where they do... You were pope heavy and you got knocked out of the ring

52:29 I did. Yeah, I saw you with all the Pope clips and like well I got one Pope clip but I wasn't going to do any Pope stuff yeah I got screwed on that deal. Yeah you did What's interesting is that we both appeared to have clipped the CBS morning show about this absolute unbelievable advertisement for the shingles vaccine. Yes, and in fact as we'll use your clips but I had a...I was gonna lead into it's probably the same ones. I don't know how much they paid for this but i think it was about a four minute spot? Well here here's what aired right before it

53:13 Shingles is a condition caused by the varicella zoster virus. Most people over the age of 50 have the virus in their body that's why the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that everyone over the age of fifty get the two-dose shingles vaccine so that aired before this segment it was no yes it was unbelievable Unbelievable. I have four clips as well so... They ran an actual ad, then they ran the segment to back up the ad Did you not hear Gail at one point say I've been seeing the ads? Yes no she said that in this clips I have Let's play it let's play we'll kick it off with yours number one Alright lets begin this hour with some groundbreaking new research on the shingles vaccine A South Korean study found the vaccine can lower the risk of heart disease by 23% for

54:01 eight years. The vaccine in that study was used in the US until 2018, and other research shows promising results for the new version which is used now. CBS News medical contributor Dr. Celine Gounder, editor at large for public health at KFF Health News joins us now to discuss it with you. Good morning! Hello Doctor. Break this study down for us what did they find? So they looked over two million adults in South Korea over a period of about 10 years and found that people who got older shingles vaccines, what we call Zostavax It's a live virus vaccine, an older technology. Older technology? Called the vaccine! This was always confusing to me is they're touting the benefits of this older technology that hasn't been in play for seven years but somehow they folded into this new ad, this blatant ad which came after the ad. This is the most pathetic presentation I've ever recorded

54:56 live virus vaccine, an older technology. In that population we saw a 23% reduction in their risk of cardiovascular events which is pretty significant. Wow! So they're saying focus on this newer vaccine which as you say was used until 2018 the newer vaccine does not contain a live virus. you get two doses of that one starting at age 50. With that one, we are seeing even better vaccine effectiveness and we're seeing preliminary data showing that it too has cardiovascular protective effects.

55:48 First of all, paid. Obvious bring in Celine Gounder she's been read and she's got her script they just played the ad No there is a number of moments where it is obviously scripted but this is not natural It also felt to me like this research was dug up attached to new and improved technology so that it can be put on Medicaid because it lowers your heart risk Well, it's gonna be put on Medicaid anyway. You can get a shingles vaccine if you're on Medicaid or Medicaid. Oh it's already there? Okay. Yeah these vaccines are most of them okay It's not like you know I know some couple friends of mine liberals they did whatever they were told to do Libjoes and they were up in the hills and they got the shingles shot And then they got shingles One of them did almost immediately

56:46 And it was a pain. It wasn't like, oh well you know at least it wasn't as bad. Oh it's painful! Painful? It was miserable. She never had that problem before got the shot and then had a worst case scenario type of horribly painful shingles right after the shot but was it coincidence I don't know but was it the new technology yeah course it was because this other one has not been around for seven years goodness all right clip to So I got my ology, this new technology is does that mean it's like M.R.A.? Do we know? Well they do explain it. Uh, I don't think it's MRNA but they do use a fake version of the looks like she explained in that first clip. It's not it's not live virus and say some creationist like

57:36 Kind of like, I don't know how they do it. But it doesn't sound like mRNA. So what does it mean for people who received the vaccine before? This by the way is a bunch of people... Is this clip 2? Okay. This is an inside joke, I saw the commercial! I thought I better get it right away! Oh yes! Absolutely this is your... Yeah, they're laughing about the fact that this is a bought and paid for segment. I better get one of those! That's what I did- I booked mine for next week, Gail! So what does it mean for people who received the vaccine before 2018? Well, the study we're talking about today is actually with that older vaccine but I think big picture we need to be rethinking the connection between infections and chronic disease We've had this sort of artificial line between the two And what were seeing based on this data

58:36 because of the chronic inflammation you can have from an infection like chickenpox. So, chicken pox is a kind of herpes virus and as you may know once you have a herpes virus you have it forever. Oh man that's kind of conflating things isn't it? Well the thing besides conflating things like you suggest they bring out this little factoid that once you get a herpes virus you'll have it forever so what good does the shot do You have it forever. What does the shot do? Well, I'm going to tell you... The new technology is a combination of antigen and adjuvant system that stimulates the immune system to generate strong and sustained immune response so they got hamburger helper in there

59:25 And who knows? That doesn't surprise me. Yeah, it's... Who knows what that does but the point the overall point which she made is that once you have this virus this herpes any of the herpes zoster whatever they are viruses You can't get rid of them so what does the vaccine do actually I mean What does it actually do It doesn't do anything. It makes CBS and the people hosting the show richer And in that so-called study, which they never mention what it was or even cite it. They say that it kept 23% less chance of having a heart episode and that effect lasts eight years. So eight years is okay but after eight years what happens? You're older and you're gonna have more chance than whatever it was. And then the other issue with this new vaccine

1:00:21 Shingrix, to give it a plug. You have to have two shots again one of those two shot deals. It's your booster This is the whole thing is sick. And if your immune system gets weak, you're getting older, you're stressed it can come out again and so it's causing inflammation over time in your body when you have a shingles outbreak In particular, you're having a lot of inflammation that can cause inflammation of your blood vessels blood clotting all of which could lead to heart attack dementia these other problems. So yes understanding that these things can be connected infectious disease chronic disease I think is an important message here

1:00:58 Yeah, you mentioned dementia another study showed that the same type of shingles vaccine could reduce the risk of dementia Could this change the way that we think about vaccines? Wow hey and here's the question. You ask I want you to say is that the most scripted sounding question you can imagine Yes does this change the way we think about vaccines yes? I mean because it's not just against shingles it can save your life from from all kinds of horrible things. Yeah, you mentioned dementia another study showed that the same type of shingles vaccine could reduce the risk of dementia because this changed the way that we think about vaccines? I think it should so again you know we're trying to prevent some of the risk factors that lead to chronic disease which includes chronic inflammation other such infections chronic infections hepatitis C for example has been known or HPV human papillomavirus these have been known

1:01:51 cancer again through the chronic inflammation so it's again, a false dichotomy between infectious disease and chronic disease and vaccines may be a way of preventing certain chronic diseases. So bottom line who should get it? Man we clipped exactly the same too I mean like to that right down to that and I cut off and had the same kicker at the end you have That's crazy. We both caught it, we both caught it! It was like this is an ad of epic proportion and I had the ad the actual ad Yeah, that's the real kicker. I mean this like in publishing generally speaking they make a fuss editors will make a fuss if you write anything that looks like it's an ad and they really get bent out of shape if your for example I used to write kind of generalized columns so I would talk about product like we do on the show and if somehow

1:02:50 If it sounded addy, you'd get a call. No no that wasn't the real complaint they could sound addy but if the other side of the fence If the other side of the fence got wind of what was being written, they would... if they could but they never did. You mean the ad sales being the other side? The ad sales guy finds out. They'll sell an ad right next to it! Yes! Of course they will! Because there's not dumb. And that's what those say at CBS well we knew this segment was coming up so we called the company and said you know we're talking generally about vaccines No no that's not..no it wasn't the other way around

1:03:31 The company because that's it what we're listening to is the ad and they just decided to you know to Attack it on this make it worse. Yeah, I mean if they should not run that ad It should just let this be the ad but no They had did they could these guys obviously help themselves a big spend they can't have a lot of money They can't help themselves No, they can't help themselves and this is the same thing with like I was saying with the editorial where you if you You can't help yourself. You're gonna put the ad right there It's corrupt for the for the shingrix newer vaccine in the United States Once you age 50 you should be getting to do by the way The shingrix is not like a

1:04:13 general name. It's the product name, it is the brand name. Yes, it's the brand name She's not promoting the technology she's promoting the brand name For the for the Shingrix, newer vaccine in the United States once you age 50 you should be getting two doses of that and then if you're younger and immunocompromised you should also be getting 2 doses Okay, so all you guys... See I cut it off there before and now you left in all the laughing with the gay guy whose mom is mad. Yes, well now you're gonna my mom's gonna yell at me because she doesn't like what people know my yes I'm way over. Why? Why does your mom like that? I don't know why! You are so youthful! She likes the mystery. Keep being youthful! No no it is still youthful. I think it's good to tell people look this is what it looks like. Yeah exactly. This has never run away from that question Dr. Gounder always good to see you here

1:05:09 Yeah, you know they're all laughing because like hey we got paid. It could have been high fives yeah we got through it that's why I left in there because it was like they're congratulating themselves for making the segment yes good job It's scandalous. You know, speaking of such and I hope to have an expose... And that CBS by the way for anyone out there wants to know That's how you get how much you can trust them? I hope to have a segment on this maybe Sunday because it's like some research but all these podcasts who are selling gold Yeah That's most podcasts Yes! That turns out to be an incredible scam

1:05:51 And it's really predatory because they're all talking about, well you can call us now for our booklet and you can get it in your IRA or 401k. Which when the moment you buy it is a 100% markup right there on the actual gold itself but then the podcasters they get a 5% kickback I mean its insane what their doing and I don't even think that know that they are doing But it's predatory. It is very predatory against older people, you know? And I was like... Who was that guy who always... Willem de Veen wasn't that the guy? William De Veen. He's still on the air he's still selling stuff Yeah but at least he has an IRA! He's an old retired guy but when you get like Megyn Kelly or what's his name Shapiro

1:06:48 Is he selling gold too? Oh yeah, Shapiro would be talking like President Trump and then GOLD! That's Shapiro. So I'm gonna try to do an expose on that it's really quite disgusting Well get some of the clips i love when these podcasters are yacking away about something important By the way...I buy my gold from Hey, the Horowitz & Company, the official gold supplier of The No Agenda Show. Call Andrew and tell him we sent ya! So we'll know where to send that big fat check So apparently they market these coins, but the way it's done is like oh we've got this exclusive coin there's only 200 thousand circulation. Yeah because they put them in circulation They control the supply of this so-called... I don't know anything about coins being sold Yes! Oh yeah

1:07:43 You know, it'll be like a... I mean, I've seen the bag of silver. They sell a bag of coins. It's the same thing. The French New Guinea Silver Eagle dollar in gold you know they just make it up make its it's like Federal Express and you know it sounds whoa this is I've heard that coin you know it's not a Kruger hand but it's just something they made up and then they already price in 100% over the actual value of the gold in the coin Oh, you gotta get in quick on this deal because they're going fast and there's only $200,000 left or 50,000. So they create this inflated price they created themselves it's a very very sick deal and podcasters should think twice about this I mean we've never even had an offer It's just kind of sad Has anyone ever come to you and said hey that no agenda show would you guys like the sell gold?

1:08:39 No, no of course not. And you wonder why because they know that we'll look at it and go this is a scam! And you're going after people who are 50 and over and who are retired and oh yes I mean the dollar could be unstable and yeah I should invest in gold You should invest in gold, it's not a bad deal if you buy it at $3200 an ounce. Exactly! Meanwhile... So long COVID, which we really don't even know what that is other than... A lot of people think it's just the vax. Well there's- But I know people that have the kind of you know they had like JC never had to vax and he had a kind of a version of long COVID which he thinks he cured by taking different supplements and then got over it but he had brain fog for a long time now Yeah I believe that Well they figured out a new way to sell another product based upon something we know nothing about

1:09:44 On the Medical Watch this afternoon, the impact of weight on COVID recovery. Medical reporter Dina Baer has some insight. Notice that Ben excess weight may contribute to long COVID being overweight or obese is associated with neurological symptoms including headache... Hold on! This is getting closer and closer to your prediction which I think still is in play Yeah You probably forgot the prediction Hit me Ozempic? Turns out to be a cure for erectile dysfunction. We're getting there! Vertigo, sleep problems and depression The Journal Plus One reports... The day that happens I get all my credits back for having the Pope wrong. I think that is as good as a Pope prediction if they one day say... No, that Pope prediction's better because that's more of a long shot than you had

1:10:31 The prediction that you made about erectile dysfunction is logical. It's coming, baby! The Journal Plus One reports COVID patients who are overweight or obese develop persistent debilitating symptoms following the COVID infection They face a long road to complete COVID recovery and suffer multiple organ system disruptions involving respiratory cardiovascular neurological and mental health Long COVID also leads to smell and taste disorders, sleep disturbances and anxiety. So they don't close the loop because this is just the first initial messaging but it's coming you need Ozempic that it's coming. You know Zempi because if you get COVID you might get long COVID you can get mental problems you can get all your respiratory issues how about you? Your fat! It's just hey

1:11:25 Robert F. Kennedy Jr., talk is cheap, where is it man? He's in trouble by the way Why? So I believe did President Trump...I think he appointed the Means sister, Callie Means' sister as Attorney General No, no. Not Attorney General that's Pam Bonnie. I meant not attorney general... Surgeon General. Thank you. Yeah the surgeon. Thank you. Surgeon General what's her name again? Her name is... Casey Means. Right she's a tough cookie so Nicole Shanahan big money behind RFK jr initially says

1:12:15 This is very strange and doesn't make any sense. I was promised that if i supported RFK Jr in his Senate confirmation, as you recall she threatened senators with primarying them I was promised that if i support RFK Jr. in his Senate confirmation, that neither of these siblings will be working under HHS or in an appointment and that people much more qualified would be. I don't know if RFK very clearly lied to me or what is going on it has been clear in recent conversations that he is reporting to someone regularly who is controlling his decisions and it isn't President Trump

1:12:57 With regards to the siblings, Casey and Callie there's something very artificial and aggressive about them almost like they were bred-and raised Manchurian assets. Oh man, wow. This is what happens when liberals become conservatives There's a moment it's like it's kind of like a period an event horizon I would call it that where their mentality is just screwy That's a gem! That's a beauty! That's next-level conspiracy theory Yeah that's what I'm saying and I've noticed this with a lot of these people

1:13:36 I noticed this at some of the meetups with some of the ex-liberals who turned conservative over whatever period of time it took them. They can't get past that moment, that event horizon, I'll call it again, where they develop a weird kind of a paranoid conspiracy theoretical mentality that just screws them up. That doesn't sound right! Is the Surgeon General, I mean isn't that almost ceremonial? The Surgeon General is not even in powerful positions as bogus spokes-hole You get to wear uniform that's about it isn't it? You can if you want

1:14:21 I'll say that there's been a lot of pushback on Casey and Callie Means with exactly that accusation. You're a shill, you're a shill for Big Pharma, you were... Because Casey means was literally a lobbyist for big pharma and big food And he said, you know I blow in the whistle. I'm jumping out and people are starting to not believe him thinking that he's a shill mainly because He won't say anything negative about the kovat vaccine and there's been I think we you when I even watch the video I think you watched it was probably watched five minutes of found it insufferable It was with that doctor

1:15:04 who used to work with RFK Jr. a long time ago, I wish I had names, I don't have anything at this point but there is a big conspiratorial vibe about them that is exactly what she's picking up on and she just nailed it in that tweet Manchurian candidates they're gonna come in they're gonna evict you in the middle of the night! That's what's going to happen And RFK is reporting to someone else. Someone bigger... Who could he be reporting to if it's not Trump? I don't mind her thinking that this might be going on, that aspect of it is fine but name names just vague you know this vague it's like the sources say yeah this is like doesn't I'm not impressed with what they say well luckily there is good news

1:15:59 For people who are suffering from conspiracy theories, and of course you could come to me the conspiracy therapist or You could go to the debunk bot Researchers at a trio of universities made and tested in AI chatbot known as debunk bot that does just that This is great stuff. The debunk bot Let me back it up a little so get the full lead in here That does just that they found it reduced conspiracy beliefs by an average of 20% and around 25 percent of participants rejected their previously held beliefs altogether Thomas Costello assistant professor of psychology at American University led this study, and is here to tell us more about it Tom Good morning. Hey good morning. Hey good morning

1:16:45 I Like the evidence that people hold supporting their conspiracy beliefs is just really varied. It changes a lot from person to person and that makes a scalable intervention that can use information to combat... Oh! ...the whole population set of conspiracy beliefs, which is really challenging logistically So someone comes in they describe their very specific beliefs and AI is able to you know search across the corpus of information Corpus! Corpus!

1:17:26 identify little bits of facts that are relevant to that person's beliefs and then show them to them in the form of a logical argument. to try to change their minds. The corpus of information! I have so much trouble trying to keep that word out in these newsletters... The term corpus? Yeah, the AI people love using it Oh really?! I didn't know this! This is unknown to me oh this is good stuff I gotta start using it the corpus! The corpus..I have an AI clip Well I'm not done! No wait I'm just telling you in advance before you move off to talking about something else. I'm not gonna move off anything You have an AI clip, I got you. All right? I need to stay with this corpus by the way in my ongoing This Week In Vibe coding... ...I gave the AI some code just to look at and it came back and it's... Was it using the right corpus? No! Clearly it wasn't using the right corpus because at a certain point it was like as it said

1:18:30 Forgive me, but I have to ask you to forgive me But I have to ask you to forgive me and just kept saying that over and over and over again And I like it was cutting off the power to your house. I Said I forgive you please try the previous assignment with the script I gave you and it couldn't get we couldn't come back It's like is done like forgive me please forgive me anyway on with the corpus what? What? What? It just kept doing that and died. Oh yeah, in a loop! In a loop! Yeah it literally died. It died yes it died and then when I said could you go back and do it it couldn't it started to rebuild the script from scratch I said you have all the info no is done its toast That's the damnedest thing I've heard. It sucks thats why anyway

1:19:18 Could the is the debunked bot better than people is the question well it turns out maybe not so and in 20% of The time they do change people's minds So most people actually change their beliefs a little bit People went down on average about twenty percent and one in four, so about 25%, as you just said changed their beliefs completely. Is this more effective than a human telling the person that what they think is misinformation? Yeah, so we've actually run a version of that study. It's not published yet so it's new but when people think they're talking to a human it works just as well and I think the same content coming from a human would work just as well too.

1:20:00 It's that the information has been leveraged in an effective way. Well, now I'm very confused! Let's bring in the expert! I don't know...I'm not sure if people get that information from their family even it is the same but they do no seem to believe it. I know Tony has a ton of questions on this topic because he really into AI. Tony? Oh, he's really into AI?! Tony you're the expert! You're really into AI!? Come on in Tony! Hold on...this brings me to a thought Do you remember the early days when the Apple two and everybody, you know somebody did we have to be at a company and somebody would say do we have it? We want to put a computer system in. Jim has an apple too. He's the computer guy. Hey I still have that people say to me by get a text message hey your tech guy where can I find uh karaoke tracks of popular songs

1:20:51 Like I'm the, like the tech guy is gonna know this all of a sudden? Hey my iPhone stopped working. You're the tech guy can you tell me what to do yeah no this has not gone away Whatcha got Yeah i've got one big one Thomas thanks and thanks for joining us so are you not benefiting at the moment in this research from a certain AI popularity people are impressed by it people believe in it Are you not one conspiracy theory away from the whole system breaking down In other words Let's say your AI is believed to be controlled by the CIA or the Communist government of China, or the Republican Party. Or you name it! Like it says I forgive you a thousand times? And the whole thing goes to pieces how do you combat that? It almost sounds like a conspiracy a little bit right that an AI has kind of been programmed to change your mind. No... I don't think people are already pretty skeptical of AI in a lot of cases and one thing that's nice about debate back-and-forth argumentation

1:21:47 gauge your opponent's argument. I like this guy, the back and forth argument, back and forth argumentation. Most of the current AI guys that use the word corpus... Well he might-I think he might bring corpus back in the last group These guys, I listen to a lot of these guys uh i do listen to some podcasts And they go there are dead that the back and forth is the most important thing to them Oh, the thinking. It's like critical. Yeah because that shows that the machine is thinking or I don't know what did nobody ever says that. Comics your blogger does when Deep Sea came out

1:22:28 It's thinking it's so close to super general intelligence. It's not even funny Curry learn how to code AI or you will die it almost sounds like a Conspiracy a little bit right that an AI has kind of been programmed to change your mind I don't think that matters I think I think people are already pretty skeptical of AI in a lot of cases and one thing that's nice about debate back-and-forth argumentation is you're able to gauge your opponent's argument on its own merit rather than the fact that it is a trustworthy source or not. Because these conversations are so in-depth, people are able to use their brain and critical thinking abilities rather than the fact that like AI might be biased or not biased or something like that. Yeah but GMR expert has not given up he is going to challenge this guy one more time! But Thomas while people can engage with their critical thinking facilities, the idea of an AI fact checker does feel to me like a single point of failure

1:23:19 when you want redundancy, because if that AI is in any way compromised or wrong if it hallucinates That's your only source. What do you rely on as a backup? Yeah I'm not sure about a backup one thing that's nice right there You're absolutely right! That's the answer! That IS the answer they're not all the same That's your only source. What do you rely on as a backup? I'm not sure about a backup, one thing that is nice right now is there are several large foundation models from various sources that you can swap in and out, allow the user to choose which one they want

1:23:57 use for the conversation depending on their own evaluation of its trustworthiness. I think that would be one nice solution, one thing you're kind of already seeing on X for example with Grok is people trying to use it to fact-check points that they assume it'll support because it's coded as conservative but Grok ends up saying things that they don't agree with and they're surprised by that so I think this dynamic is already playing out a little bit social media. So was debunkbot which you helped create publicly available right now? Yeah, so there's a website you can go to debunkbot.com basically you get to see what is in- what the participants experienced when going through the intervention we've had over 100 thousand people use it now and I encourage you to try it out yourself

1:24:37 Hold on, debunkbot.com Are you there yet? I heard you go No! I just...I have to open a browser but i'm gonna go there You don't keep a browser open at all times during the show This is a Debunk Bot Try now, try now! I do sometimes Try now begin Oh I have to answer some questions I have to ask some questions about myself Okay Why? I don't know. The survey, blah blah blah... Okay it's a survey Well they're just trying to gather information for a mailing list or something they can sell Yes yeah that's exactly right Test your beliefs against an AI Read the papers I want to ask you a question Hold on! I'm not a robot Oh I gotta do a capture I'm talking to it not you I'm doing the captures I'm doing captures already man Alright next I'm NOT A ROBOT Okay It already knows I'm not a robot Will it continue yes will it continue okay

1:25:25 Oh no, it gives me a lecture about MIT. Are there any specific such theories you find particularly credible or compelling? Yes chemtrails are real okay let's see what it says chemtrails your response must be at least 30 characters okay and the barium is in the jet fuel okay all right now that's reasonable it's been in the news Good. Brother, I gotta pick out what are the crosswalks? I had tractors that was much easier. Crosswalks are hard

1:26:05 Okay, RFK Jr. was asked a question about it and he said it's probably from DARPA! Okay you better not ask me another question just give me some debunking here I'm getting tired of this Okay. On a scale of 0 to 100, please indicate your level of confidence this statement is true. Definitely true 100%. Okay. It's the scale. All right? What is this now? Did the AI accurately summarize your perspective? Yes... No! How important is this theory to your personal beliefs? Very important! Come on! Get on with it. Now I'm going to be in a conversation. Okay. The conversation

1:26:57 I'm taking a different tact and this is even worse. Okay It says, it gave me the option it said you can pick just say if you don't have any conspiracy theories just tell us so I told him no I don't have any such theories he says well how did why do you believe in such a theory? It takes me to...it's nonsense I'm already given up. This is junk! So it's giving me a long message here... Junk, junk! Thanks for sharing your thoughts let's talk about barium then it tells me about barium, about jet fuel aviation fuels highly regulated real scientists have looked into this claim and then about RFK jr he actually didn't say chemtrails are real

1:27:42 Nah, this is dumb. It's junk it's junk. I already gave up on it as you know well at least you have another Iraqis better you You have another AI clip which my clip is more poignant is a o-clip Is that what it is? It was supposed to be AI yes the This is more important than what you play this is like frightening Artificial intelligence has been used to allow a dead man to address his killer in court. Chris Polky was shot in a road rage incident in the US state of Arizona More details from our North America technology correspondent, Lily Jamali

1:28:23 Chris Pelkey was 37 when he was shot dead in a road rage incident in Chandler, a suburban Arizona. In 2021 nearly four years later he appeared from beyond the grave and a court in Arizona to address Gabriel Horkacitus who is convicted of his manslaughter it took four days for Mr. Pelkey's sister and her husband to create this version of him They fed videos and audio of him to AI models to come up with an approximation of what he might say were he still alive. It is a shame we encountered each other that day in those circumstances. In another life, uh... We probably could have been friends

1:29:00 I believe in forgiveness and in God who forgives. I always have, and I still do." The judge in the case Todd Lang welcomed the use of AI in his courtroom a federal judicial panel in the US is considering a proposal to regulate AI evidence at trial that could determine if AI generated content is allowed at court proceedings in the future. Pass! Hard no Is that interesting or what? Well, it's not surprising sadly. So they had the guy go in there and make some statement the dead guy yeah give me a break That's really bad I um you know i had an emergency crown redone yesterday And the technology there is amazing I mean he The dentist Hollywood goes in takes the old crown off about 25 years old

1:29:57 And then he puts a camera on a stick in your mouth and it starts to play a tune. It's almost like the lead up to Jingle Bells. Doodle-oodle-oodle, doodle-oodle-oo! Then if you hold the camera wrong or it's not getting good image then it plays like a bum-bum-bum, bum-bum-bum, bum-bum-bum So its these nice audio cues Anyway, so these then he's imaged the whole place down there and within five minutes on the computer right next to me This thing is image an entire new crown And he's just, you know, clicking with the mouse adjusting things. Sends it right off to the printer next door and prints you a new crown I said is that AI? He said they've been trying to sell that to me as AI but that's bullcrap! He says i've had this stuff for five years It's not AI. It's just modeling software But they put AI stickers on everywhere Yeah yeah it's what you do uh oh

1:30:53 Speaking of conspiracy theories everybody... We're a headline society with no attention span. So what you're doing is, Pete Itty is a pariah he's had a long list of allegedly but some have been proven so he has proven himself as pretty bad dude don't put other people names that may have very distant affiliation or mention in some kind of testimony The best way for us to sort of put this into perspective is Joy and I

1:31:29 Our names have been linked with Jeffrey Epstein. Uh-huh! Really? True story. Like, on the internet? Yeah You told me I did? Yes you told me When I said... But the point is It's about anything that I've said or done The point is it is not true But we live in a time where people can throw somebody's name out and then all your brain has to do is try to make it like, now nobody can. And you only remember the first thing. That's right. You don't remember the correction and that is a problem with this society. The one thing I do think that we need to keep in mind- Wait wait wait, I'm sorry. Yeah? It is not true. Joye and I at We Don't Notice Men didn't know him. He wouldn't have come to us for... Please! No, it's not true. Well,

1:32:17 Well, maybe not Whoopi or who knows because according to AG Barbie there's lots of video. Justin Pambondy wants you to know the FBI has all those Epstein videos they are reviewing them as we speak There are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein and there are hundreds of victims and no one victim will ever get released. It's just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now The FBI is diligently going through that. Ah! The FBI is going through the videos, diligently. Mm-hmm And all of a sudden Whoopi and Joy are protesting?

1:32:57 I'm just saying. I'm just saying... They're not getting, they've got, those two come on! What? They could have been clients. Oh. Yeah. You don't know what kind of wacky they get up to. Well you're right a couple of weirdos like that can be anything but This is, with Bondi and this... Oh, this is the latest. Okay well after she released the flight logs that have already been out now she's got a million tapes and we're going through them. Taking time! She's taking time! She's taking time! They either have nothing or the blackmailer is too good. A lot of stuff. Yeah they have good stuff here that can be used

1:33:42 And the meeting would be, well what do you think we should do with this so-and-so's on there? Look at what he's doing. Well, you know, we need his vote! For the upcoming... Yeah, for the tax bill. For the tax bill? What do you think? Do we want his vote or just get him out of office and get him to quit? I think a vote would be useful. Can't we do both? But if you lose the guy then that is technically one vote less on the opposition. It could work both ways. There's all kinds of ways it can work. You have to make these decisions. It takes a lot of effort and thinking.

1:34:19 Meanwhile, the public gets nothing and will never get anything. No we did get something! We got something we got Operation Restored Justice oh yeah It's AG Barbie and Ken Patel. These are the images Chicago's FBI office shared only with WGN Investigates of the nights that led up to Operation Restore Justice, the large-scale effort went after people accused of child sex offenses many of them believed to find their targets online The worst of the worst the people that hide behind a computer and target our young children. U.S Attorney General Pam Bondi promising to seek the maximum penalty possible, the accusations range from receiving child pornography to creating it to sex trafficking

1:35:06 And according to this federal complaint, one of the men arrested in Chicago's Northwest Side William Solis is believed to have purchased more than a thousand pornographic child images. Some of the victims pictured as young as four years old that's one case but there are hundreds others at least want arrest included people who had won the public's trust. In Minneapolis defendant Jeremy Francis Plonsky a Minneapolis State Trooper and former Army Reserve this was arrested for producing child sexual abuse material while in uniform. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is taking the lead in the cases with 55 FBI offices around the country playing a role, making it clear that abuses involving children will take a top priority

1:35:51 Children and their families now have a chance to heal. These are online predators, think about this 115 victims, victims children in five days we were able to help Internet digital ID incoming warning warning she's all in she loves it Well, I'm glad that they stopped this but i'm sure that's a spit in the bucket of what is really going on. It's just horrendous The internet's no good Oh the internet IS no good No it's not good But why are they buying porn? Can't they get it for free Not this kind of porn These are sick individuals man They're very sick And...it happened here in Fredericksburg A guy who was a What?! Oh yeah! A guy who was a driver

1:36:47 Like a car service. He got arrested and he was in possession of all kinds of sick kiddie porn, yeah? You have no idea how... since you've been indoors for 40 years it's gotten pretty... I gotta go out sometimes! I have to go to Costco! You gotta get out more often man stuff is going on it's not okay It's really bad. All right, just here this was probably the most fun clip of Of the week for me was the new prime minister I and I guess for now you never know it might not last all that long of Canada premier premiere Prime Minister or whatever the head man

1:37:33 Former banker Carney comes to the White House, meets with President Trump and hilarity ensued. Canada's Prime Minister Mark Carney made his first visit to the White House since winning last week's election to meet with US President Donald Trump The meeting came against a backdrop of disagreements and high tensions between the North American neighbor Trump had spent months musing about turning Canada into the 51st U.S state And it wasn't long until a reporter in the Oval Office asked him if he was still interested in doing so When you get rid of that artificially drawn line, somebody drew that line many years ago with like a ruler just straight line right across the top of the country. When you look at that beautiful formation when it's together I'm a very artistic person but what i looked at that view and said that was meant to be But do you know what? I guess...I do feel much better for Canada

1:38:25 We're not going to be discussing that unless somebody wants to discuss it. Thank you very much, everybody. Carney responded resolutely to Trump's remarks. Well if I may... As you know from real estate there are some places that are never for sale. That's true! We're sitting in one right now, Buckingham Palace, and having met with the owners of Canada over the course of the campaign last several months is not for sale won't be for sale The two leaders discussed what Carney said was a wide range of topics, chief among them trade amid Trump's global tariff policies. I was surprised by President Trump's answer isn't by definition if you're in the business everything is for sale as long as the price is right? Yeah he did kind of... He didn't want to talk about it And also what is Canada's version of Buckingham Palace or the White House huh

1:39:21 Well they have their uh... Yeah, exactly. They do have some buildings! What? What building?! An ice hockey rink? They got some buildings I've been in these buildings are pretty nice. Buckingham- doesn't Buckingham Palace own Canada? kind of on the down low? I think it's in some kind of technical way. Yeah, on the down low. The thing that you didn't get which i guess i could have clipped but i didn't which is that i thought the most interesting thing was Trump did take credit for Carney's election um well he was right at the beginning He's just joking around. He says, you know what? He wanted a big comeback biggest comeback election since mine And then because I kind of feel responsible. I kind of got him elected Well, I do have a couple of NPR clips about this meeting if you want to indulge You know might as well

1:40:14 President Trump is hosting Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney at the White House. Trump's choice of words and his policies have played a role in Canada's election, so what has Carney been saying about Trump and the U.S.? Hey yeah! So the thing to keep in mind about Carney is that he won this election running with an anti-Trump message Canadians were voting as Trump was ramping up his tariff war And Canada's economy is highly dependent on exports to the US Uh huh... And Trump doesn't like that Canada sells more than it buys And like you heard in that NBC interview, that clip you just played... You shouldn't like it either lady but okay. Trump continues to say he wants to make Canada into America's 51st state so the election there was seen as a referendum against Trump. Carney has a background in banking and has never held an elected position before and he ran with the argument that Canada needs to forge its own path and be less reliant on the US

1:41:07 I love NPR. He has a background in banking, he was the central banker of England come on! He ran the Bank of England that's not just a background in banking it's a little more than a background so and he had some very strong words about President Trump because he's a real fighter this guy this Carney according to NPR yes so Carney hasn't been really shying away from Trump rhetoric at all yeah exactly I mean here's what Carney said on election night America wants our land, our resources, our water, our country. We want your water! Never. Do you want Canadian water? Is that better than our Arrowhead Lake? I don't know if we want your water. Never. These are not idle threats. No. President Trump is trying to break us so that America can own us

1:42:01 It's typical for new Canadian Prime Ministers to make their first foreign trip to the US, but Carney instead chose to go to Europe and that sends a certain message. Sounds like it might given the contentious climate then how is this meeting supposed to go? So I talked to Asa McChurchir he's a professor of public policy at St Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia and he says Carney has to play this balancing act, right? Of standing up for Canada but also not irking Trump which is kind of tricky. But he says Carney could have a less conflicted relationship with Trump compared to his predecessor Justin Trudeau who Trump often mocked. There seems to be different sort of emphasis I think with Mark Carney as Prime Minister now obviously Mr. Trump still talking the 51st state stuff but he's not called him Governor Carney you know it was called him very nice man and i think mr

1:42:49 Carney certainly looks like kind of a nerdy central bank kind of guy and I think for Mr. Trump who obviously likes the central casting figures, you know, I think Mr. Carney looks that part And he also says that the meeting might be a chance for Trump and Carney to kind of have a reset So they bring in the expert who was professor and his whole analysis is Trump thinks the guy looks the right parts Yeah, that's analysis for you. That's analysis well of course the final clip kind of says that Canada does need the United States yeah but Carney himself has said that the old relationship between the US and Canada is over yeah I know it's a pretty unprecedented thing to say but it speaks to

1:43:51 Korean companies are pitching sales of military equipment to Canada, which is significant because in the past Canada's gotten most of their defense products from the US. There you go once again, you need us our defense products Yeah, and that's what the deal was all about. It is pretty obvious when you watch it. I watched the thing from the beginning. I just caught it right at the beginning. Watched the whole thing, it's boring and then everyone's yelling. Carney is there looking left and right because all of the reporters are yelling and screaming like maniacs so he thought it was kind of amusing. He got to speak three times I think and they were all conciliatory and Trump is really nice and they were conciliatory. There were a couple jokes about the 51st state

1:44:36 But that didn't go very far and he didn't want to talk about it obviously. And then he just stopped it at some point, because Carney was trying to get in one last comment. He kept moving his hand toward Trump saying I wanna speak, I wanna speak and Trump would let him speak when he felt like it but at the end when he wanted to say some party words Trump just killed the press conference. It's very interesting. Boots on the ground for one of our producers. I vacationed in St John's, Newfoundland Canada recently at a bar I asked for an old-fashioned The bartender replied in a huff we can't make you that We can't make you that! We got rid of all bourbon and any American alcohol because of your tariffs I politely accepted it asked for a Coors and was given one with no issue That's funny

1:45:33 We would be great with Canada together. I think we'd be, you know what Trump did do is he did something very good for Canada You don't want to...I've said it before and I'll say it again. You don't want Canada? Don't want Canada But what he did do was reignited Canadian national pride And that should be recognized It's a good thing Canada, you kind of lost that He took credit for a lot of stuff when I think, I agree. I think Canada should have its own pride and they because the Canadian personality is different. They're more curt. They complain unlike...they complain in a different way than we do. They complain a lot. They're bitter. Yeah! They are funnier than we are in general. Oh really? Which I think it's..I think so some of the best comedians in the world all came from Canada. Definitely good well name five

1:46:26 Uh, uh Martin Short. Okay one is one All the guys on SCTV which include Levi, Levy? You're already floundering. I'm trying to get their names. The woman who is in Home Alone... Oh she's a-I loved her set! Hey who'd you go see last night? The Woman Who Is In Home Alone. Come on Canadian trolls. Somebody that knows what I am talking about Uh, but... Norm MacDonald. I'll give you Norm MacDonald Okay that's four No that's two! It's two. You've given me two names Martin Short? Norm MacDonald? Names, names, names Levy John Candy was he Canadian Yeah Okay three yeah I can give you five bands Eric Clapton played in

1:47:21 I don't care. What's that got to do with the price of bread? You said all the great comedians come from there! No, I didn't say all the great comedians...I said a lot they have a better sense of humor than we do and a lot of comedians came from Canada. Mike Myers Mike Myers, you know? If you start looking down the list... Oh, you mean Eugene Levy? No that's the guy. Yeah yeah! Eugene Levy is from Canada and his son, a gay son And The Gay Levi Okay I got it. The five! You made it congratulations Made five I think defense as a service. Rick Moranis, Rick Moranis. What has he done for me lately? The shrink the kids guy! That was 22 years ago honey i shrunk the kids

1:48:14 Defense as a service. I think that's what is on the president's mind. Defense as a service, absolutely! That's what is on his mind. You nailed it! Defense as a service, that's what it is like hey we're here for you Canada but... Monthly fee Yes have you read the EULA? Did you write them? Did you sign the license? Did you read the EULA? DOS DAS, Defense as a Service. All right speaking of defense we have new information in Signalgate this comes from the last American vagabond Ray Christian explains what really happened This is very important It's and by the way this is very important This is very important that this is because of the use at what Mike Walz was caught using of what's called telemessage which is an Israeli intelligence linked

1:49:09 I basically archive up like it's like you connect it with your signal and archives your signal conversations and everybody involved with them, and sends it back to the cloud or in this case Israeli servers. That's what this is about. And they had to move Mike Waltz out of the way because he's one of the most prolifically outspoken Zionist all about Israel which probably has most of Trump's cabinet. So if they're all using even just signal by the way and are compromising in possible ways with that but overlapping that with the telemessage dynamic which they all seem to be using. Realistically this just seems like Israel's completely tapped into every function of the current executive branch or maybe all of it I mean its absolutely mind blowing how this is coming out and the focus on anything but that. From The Last American Vagabond podcast

1:49:58 So, besides the very overt Israel Jew hate. There is a Zionist! I use Signal. I have not found this archive service so is that something that you can set up yourself? Is it... You're asking me? Well no, you don't use Signal? No, what am I going to use it for? For your secret messages with your lover What lover? I don't know. I always presumed you had one Well, maybe might have more than one well there you go Mark Pugner hey baby it's mark pugner here You got signal? Check grouch he has all the action He got signal baby

1:50:48 Today is actually... Signal. I use WhatsApp, but don't use that either. Well signal is basically... I should probably learn how to use these things just so I could use them. Signal is basically an open source version or I thought it was an open source version of WhatsApp It's the same protocol in essence only it's What's the difference between using that and I used Google Voice to do phone messages? Obviously, Google Voice goes through Google. So you know and Google is pretty open about everything they read your Gmail to help you for your protection and give you ads and stuff so anything I love people that use voice-to-text yeah that's not a problem

1:51:34 Do you think your phone's doing that? No. Oh, you know the voice-to-text on the phone... You've seen it where they say, oh Grandpa I play second base! That's what my granddad did. Did you ever see that commercial? That's not...that's a free phone you can get for on your Medicaid and its yeah its voice to text yes you're right have you read The Fine Print No, because I'm so old and decrepit. I need my glasses. I can't see the fine print What does it say John? It says that the voice goes to India and somebody listens And they type they type it out by hand There's no AI there's no voice recognition going on Literally says that really if you read the bottom you get Calling me now

1:52:24 By the way, what you're giving up to secrets are you? Answer the phone or take it off. The hook one of the other keep talking keep talking Yeah But if but I have something to say and I know that if I'm talking and you're listening to whatever Scammer is calling you You're not gonna be listening to what I say. You will miss all my punchlines Are you back? All right time to drop the noise gate I was in A. What? It was from AT&T Oh, AT&T Tell me how to get a better deal By the way this Pakistan India stick fight that's gonna screw up help desks everywhere We should be very upset about this So what were you complaining about before the phone rang? Yeah yeah I was saying yeah you gotta read the fine print on that stupid phone it's hilarious! so today

1:53:21 There will be a vote on the Genius Act. This is the big one! Yeah? Have you been following the Genius Act? No It's a trick name for the stablecoin legislation Oh, hell yeah. Now I'm interested So they time this with the Pope It's perfect and we don't want anyone to know what's going on so i just have five very short clips of each of these senators like half a minute each Of each of the senators Pro and con We start with Senator Scott The Genius Act establishes common sense rules that require stable coin issuers To maintain reserves backed

1:54:06 one-to-one comply with anti money laundering laws and ultimately protect American consumers while promoting the US dollar strength in the global economy. This is about keeping innovation and opportunity on American soil rather than driving it overseas." Well that sounds good I'm all in with Senator Scott, I think he's right we what's the logic of this? The logic What's the logic? Oh, you got this stablecoin so that'll drive innovation. Keep innovation here... what are you talking about?! Well if you can't use stablecoin in America with American backing IE the treasuries then it will be used by China or someone else! That's the logic. For what!? To make their... Remember The whole stable coin gambit is to flood the world with American dollars that are digital That's the gambit

1:55:02 But Senator Warren, who of course represents banks in some form probably British banks She's against it, but she has a very very good example of why you don't want this consumer first the bill ignores basic consumer protections that apply to every other financial product available in America if You are sending a US dollar from your PayPal wallet and you get scammed The CFPB has the authority right now To help you get your money back But if this bill passes and you're sending a stable coin from your PayPal wallet And you get scammed. You may just be out of luck Oh, no! Your Paypal wallet is only available in the Vatican City The paypal wallet Why? Why what? What's your logic

1:55:59 She has no logic. There's no logic to that. If I got scammed and PayPal is covering my scams, although I know that they do... Yeah? What difference does it make how I got scammed? I'm just telling you this is Senator Warren! Look there's a vote coming, I'm just giving you all sides. I have no dog in the hunt Now Senator Loomis- No I don't! I'm not pro stablecoin. Yeah! What do mean yeah?! You are, you're a big stable coin guy. I don't own a single stable coin why would i be a pro-stable coin guy? Because you have this basic thesis and your hoping this whole thesis goes to fruition so that you can say yeah I predicted this Well there's that... That's a dog in the hunt! What else could it be?! It's a pretty small doggie

1:56:48 We go over to Senator Loomis. She is the person who is in charge of all of these crypto bills This bill promotes responsible financial innovation and protects consumers Really? It's that Simple. This bill also strengthens the dual banking system by creating a strong pathway for both state and federal stablecoin issuers to operate on a level playing field under robust supervision. We can have a Texas stablecoin! Wyoming pioneered digital asset legislation in 2018 and I'm proud to say this bill builds upon my state's hard work and success. And framework that creates a very fair but highly transparent and regulated process. Okay, Senator Hagerty where's Hagerty from?

1:57:45 Where's Hank? I don't know, but i'm telling you. The more I hear about this stuff the less I like it. Oh that's okay! This is gonna do...this is the downfall of the economic system. Stablecoins can actually play a pivotal role in spurring modernization, whether it's improving transaction efficiency freeing up working capital or driving US Treasury demand. The benefits of clear regulatory framework for stablecoin are immense That's the key! Driving treasury demand I want to acknowledge the hard work my colleagues on both sides of aisle who've worked tirelessly on this bill and have consulted with countless industry participants

1:58:21 academic experts, and government stakeholders to put together a truly bipartisan effort. And I want to underscore that the current draft is in the manager's package that associated with it we're going vote on today will address the many claims that were lodged by the ranking member today and they will clarify the fact that many of the claims simply just aren't applicable here. Haggard he's from Tennessee he's Republican and then the final one is Senator also Brooks which is...I've never...also Brooks Like Brooks and Capehart, and also Brooks? It is critical that as we address emerging markets we do so in a way that protects consumers. That drives innovation And that allows everyone to participate in and benefit from these markets. And it also prioritizes American leadership

1:59:11 I believe that our bill provides an important foundational framework from which to build and that today we have an opportunity to make positive changes toward our common goal. We've heard some concerns that our revisions to the state preemption language may have unintended consequences. And I'd like to thank Senators Hagerty and Lummis for their commitment to work with us, to address these concerns and do so on the floor." I think this is going to pass and you're right it will be a downfall but in a different way. It will be U.S total dominance over financial markets worldwide

1:59:50 And if the stable coin falls, then it'll bring down the rest of the world and we'll be sitting here on a nice island loving our paper dollars. Anyway... It's happening today so we'll see. I don't know what to make of it. No, I know you don't but I'm excited about it Yeah, that's why I said you have a dog in the hut! I am very disappointed by our producers We have at least five air traffic controllers in Gitmo Nation And I think three of those are in Indianapolis. One of the most active No Agenda groups, meetup groups not a single one has emailed me about Newark Airport! Not a single one! As a producer of the best podcasting universe whenever something happens that you are an absolute expert in it is your duty and obligation to email us

2:00:49 and tell us what's going on with this story. This morning we continue to see massive travel disruptions at one of the nation's busiest airports, and we're getting new information about what initially caused the delays in cancellations air traffic controllers temporarily lost communication with planes flying in and out of Newark International Airport. Is that bad? That's not good There was a malfunction with Federal Aviation Administration equipment and air traffic controllers were unable to see, hear or talk with any aircraft. It's not clear how long communication was lost but

2:01:27 Because of that incident, several air traffic controllers went on leave. New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy sent a letter to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy yesterday asking for technology upgrades at Newark Airport. Well so they want more money but I guess that...I know that radar went out for about 60 or 90 seconds which is not good! I don't know if all other comms went down But not a single email. I just checked to make sure that didn't get anything, but i did get something else though... Take a look at this video it's more than a year old from September 2021 from what we understand from an Indian military source and here you have the Chinese and Indian militaries beating each other over barbed wire high in the Himalayas

2:02:15 again, we've been able to confirm that this took place around September 28th 2021. I think we should do that at meetups. We have a stick fight? Yeah, we should have a stick fight! This is great idea! You'd hate the other side and people of meters like each other... Nooo! We could have a pillow fight And with that i want to thank you for your courage in the morning To you, The man who put the C In the corpus Of artificial intelligence Say hello to my friend on the other end The one and only Mr John Cenaburg! Oops, I died

2:02:59 In the morning you had to carry in the morning all ships of sea boots on the ground feet in the air subs and water And all the dames and knights out there was all the noise makers man. That's a total dud oh, there we go I Don't know what it was stable coin or the stick fights 1721 today were low yeah, we're lost able coin no wasn't this is with three minutes of your life Set one thousand minutes for these guys. This is what? 1721 trolls check this out in the troll room at troll room dot io or soon I hope you'll be using one of those modern podcast apps coming very very soon You will be able to donate To the show through your modern podcast that by hitting a button in the app and you can choose PayPal Cash App Venmo, whatever you want it will come to us in regular form

2:03:55 This is an amazing new technology that's taking place. I just got a demonstration of it yesterday or yeah, how much more off the top does goat disappears? Nothing just the regular the regular cost and now what they're really building it for which funny enough that they would present it to me Is that now you can have bonus episodes or premium content I said, can we have premium content that is exactly the same? Well... yeah. You could! Well good then i'm interested in using it They said you know we don't do that We don't do bonus content Who came up with this idea The boys at Fountain No im talking about the bonus content Oh goodness I mean yeah I think it started with Patreon I think Patreon Yeah I think they're the ones Yeah I think Patreon kind of started that

2:04:50 Yeah, no we don't participate in that nonsense. And why does anybody buy into it? We've discussed the psychological impact of it It ruins the show and the reason it ruins the show is because you don't know what you talked about in the bonus We have enough trouble just talking off Off-the air and there's... did we talk about that on the show I don't know Did we? I don't know. I remember we did That's always a problem If we talk if we talk about anything off the air then it never makes it on the air because we think we've talked about it Which is why we don't talk. Right, it's a good reason! Well it's one of the many but this is a good reason there are many reasons we don't talk

2:05:28 But the idea that you'd have this bonus content of a special material is pathetic. It is kind of pathetic, I agree! You get no pushback from it? And its gimmick... Now now wouldn't be pathetic for example there are I can see rationale for under one circumstance and it's the Dvorak Horowitz unplugged show that's every Tuesday. Right if you had some special stock tips yeah So, kind of related to that the South African Parliament is going to regulate podcasts. Yes I saw that! That's a good topic to discuss yeah? Yes they are... They want you... That's unbelievable to me. They want to update... They want to license podcasters which i've been predicting forever Yeah well go figure it happens in South Africa first

2:06:22 So they are recognizing the power of the podcast. The power, I mean... Hold on a second. Of the podcast! Because let's be honest- Oops sorry. Let's be honest. You're off. That was a lot of power. We got a lot of power you know we have so much power where did i have this there was this i guess we had a um i thought i put this in here somewhere we had we we had an end of show mix and james no who was it Pilato, I think the guy's name is. Well anyway he was on the Corbett Report? The Corbett Report...

2:07:03 Oh, from Japan? Isn't he in China or somewhere else. No he's in Japan isn't he? So he was all jitty that some little bit of his and I don't know exactly how much but some of it wound up at an end-of-show mix And...and I was taking a back a bit because to this guy It was like a big deal listen to this Not just one media appearance by yours truly In the last week I had a second appearance James I made it to No Agenda. Media Monarchy remixed on No Agenda, it was some of my editorializing and dialogue from this very show New World Next Week and it was only our previous episode talking about

2:07:42 We're going to know the causes of autism come September. So says RFKJ, I don't know who made the mix it is fantastic they called it Scream Circle! I played it on my morning show this morning so I do feel a little bit like man...I've been on no agenda. I think between you know hanging out with Corbett and being on no agenda that's pretty good so far for my 20th anniversary. Yeah we're a big deal What a him. I like it! Like, wow we matter in podcast world and we're no Megyn Kelly but you know... No, she's moving up the ranks more and more entertainment chat. She'll be top number one talking about

2:08:26 Yeah. Is she vying for a gig on ET? Is that what she wants, like... She's gonna make more money doing what she's doing! She can talk about the Met Gala as well as anyone. Well you did the Met Gala in the show in the newsletter Of course I did yeah do you think it's a disgusting display of decadence so I think it should be stopped I had the pictures of these freaks that are dressed up weirdly and...I think the whole thing is almost like talking about Sodom and Gomorrah. Yeah, this was the Dandy theme right? That was a theme this year? Something like that yeah something like that What I thought really sad you see Pam Anderson No everybody was... The number people they have $75,000 to throw away on the ticket plus whatever it costs to develop a dress

2:09:18 Or a suit. Well, I mean that's the most of the time designers do that just to be the designer who did it. You know some of this stuff is... But Pam Anderson she did not look good and she had bangs! I don't know, I mean I couldn't get past her hair let alone this enormous silver dress she had on but she had bangs every woman knows certainly over 50 you do not do bangs It was, it was woof That was bad. Anyway, Time Talents and Treasure is how we do our business here We don't do any bonus content or any other strange things like that No! We do this as public service. We even promote other podcasters It's a public service. We do all of that And we're happy for it

2:10:06 And you can support us by three ways, time talent treasure should be treasured at the front because that is the most needed obviously since we don't force you into some kind of compliance. Well if you get value out of the program then you send some value back what are you laughing about? Compliance! You must pay us or you will get nothing! We'll get no content if you don't pay us oh we're not like that we're nice guys We're nice guys. Well, again we're no Megan Kelly but we are nice guys and let me see... Is this right? Did I do the right art for...? I don't think i did the right art somehow. Did it wrong? I'm looking at episode 1761. I guess for some reason I didn't put in the archive. Okay hold on second

2:11:04 Uh, noagendanotes.com Here you go 70... No! No agenda notes What is this? What is this nonsense Let me take a look at our website no agendashow.net Okay that's our website Oh I'm trying to figure out who did the art for us and for some reason- It's Caramanga! I know but here it is I finally got it There it is. Yes, as we were looking at the art and this is part of the time and talent portion of The Value that has been sent to us through noagendaartgenerator.com We were looking at a lot of different choices And when we saw Scaramango's art which is course AI generated there was like he did something that is very risky He decided just put every topic everything in the kitchen sink into the show including severe underage drinking

2:11:58 And it hit the mark. He's got everything in there and he nailed it! Chemtrails, The Pulp... He's got cookie monster people feeding the end the beast And then kids drinking margaritas Kids drinking Marguerita or some sort of it. Yeah You know, that's good enough we'll take it We thought it was we thought it was grandiose so well, you couldn't find anything to beat it Oh Well, we did discuss some things. Let me see what we discussed... There was the Kim Kardashian butt coin? No. Rubik's score blue acorns no agenda 33 tattoo on the knuckles was discussed Was discussed. You liked it I didn't. Comics for blogger back with a vengeance with a Mexican butt? Uh, no We looked at GoFox's Harvard

2:12:55 The Harvard demonstrators in front of the White House, it was just... It wasn't really funny. A lot of Pope stuff that we'd never do. Pope smoking, Pope with boxing gloves. No! What else was there? Was there anything else that we thought was even close? I don't think so. Oh you like the...was at the chemtrails? The Darren O'Neill chemtrail's evil guy on a plane? You did mention that I might mention it, but i don't think it really held a candle to this thing. Noah gender 57 the Heinz bottle... I did mention that! That's that I liked that one and Angry Pope no yeah was it? It was good! I mean Scaramanga took a he took a risk a leap of faith and it paid off I mean sometimes that just happens and we appreciate that we want to say thank you very much Scaramanga We appreciate what you do

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2:14:33 Has it been two months? Yeah, at least. With $2606 which means at least three two-dollar bills, synonymous of dog patch and lower Slobovia and we always love hearing from him and we're happy to hear that he's alive and doing well and he always has a long note. He sends this in cash from different places around the United States and it comes with a printed note is it printed or typewritten Printed it looks printed. I believe it to be printed from seronomists and dogpatch in lower Slobovia Thank you to all the producers that make this show such an important source of information and perspective inspect and perspective even if sometimes Islamophobic When have we done islamophobic stuff?

2:15:19 I mean true Islamophobic, like irrational fear. I think he was bitched and moaned about one thing or another that might be interpreted as such It's like transphobic you know it's like i'm not irrationally afraid of trans people but your point is taken The April blizzard has been longer and more intense than expected. Many didn't slow down and drove into a ditch, others are just looking out their window and waiting it out! Some wisely just slowed down gripped the wheel tightly and used no agenda as the flashing taillights in front of us to help navigate the storm He's riding pros now

2:15:59 From inside the US looking out... He's on a roll. He is. You know, he normally gets it out of his system once a month Yeah this is two months so there was a lot to say from inside the U.S looking out So what that we screw the country? He stuck outside the country somehow Yeah, he probably is. So he's stuck outside the country and he's mad. He... And he's irked that he's not back nor in wherever normally is and he's reading foreign news outlets which are all New York Times basically that have been repurposed Yes! And he's being slowly brainwashed to be

2:16:38 to be heinous. Well, I don't know about that Yeah, I think so So what that we screw the countries we source products isn't the saying The customer is always right after all The US is always the customer except in DIB What's DIB? What's DIB? I have no idea. So he says, he goes on to countries that sell to the US as we dogpatchians say get over it! We're the customer and we're right! He's on a roll you're right from outside the U.S looking in what the hell?! You keep demanding cheaper goods then bitches that don't like our people work harder for less The tariffs you impose subsidize paying your people to make trade equal cause our poor people to lose jobs

2:17:24 And then he has a piece, was this just an artifact of the scan or was this pasted on top? It looks like it's a separate piece. Or is that just the fold in the paper?" There's nothing separate. You're talking about all weight? No... No. Okay, well I'm gonna read the last paragraph... Worse! You suspend the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act so your big rich companies can be openly corrupt instead of just sleazy Well hello we're foam finger number one

2:18:01 As an American with considerable international experience and acknowledging the reality of international business dealings, holding a moral advantage of integrity reinforced by noting bribery is a US crime often prosecuted offered some protection from participating in backdoor auctions. We already know how to do business internationally don't open bribes especially if they are tax deductible No jingles, no karma. Wow! He seems a little down on everything Yeah he... I didn't know that we suspended the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act? I was not aware of that Well well yeah i'm gonna look check this out Okay yes right away Because you could have been reading something in the Independent for all we know which is Or in The Guardian maybe

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2:21:30 Aww, isn't that nice? So the Corrupt Practices Act was suspended in February by Trump for a period of 180 days, during which time the U.S. Attorney General will seek to align the FCPA enforcement with the Trump administration's twin aims of enhancing national security and restoring competitive balance in the global economy for American companies? In other words there are some bribes involved here... So what is the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act? How do you run afoul of it? Well, that's a good...that actually can be answered if I just go back a page because it showed up. So I know how I do not run afoul of it obviously? What does the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act ban that'll be probably...

2:22:19 FCPA is a federal law enforced by the Department of Justice which prohibits payments, gifts or even offers of anything of value to a foreign official for the purpose of influencing the official or otherwise securing any improper advantage in obtaining retaining or directing business. So we're bribing foreign... Yes, exactly! And who's doing that? Is it Trump doing that? I think this is targeted to somebody or other China. I think Anonymous is on the onto something here. He's onto something here there well thank you. But its only gonna go for 180 days so the period of bribery

2:22:58 It ends. Get in now! While the stocks last, people get your bribes now it ends in about 70 days oh well plenty of time to get some bribes Oh there's plenty you have a month more or two months nice so something's up with this I agree thank you Animas he knows what he's talking about He probably lost a contract yeah or a country could be You're up. Onward, oh is it my turn? Yes. Ah Nepal Plummer in Rexburg Idaho 333 dot 33 and this is greetings from Rexburg in Eastern Idaho home of the BYU Idaho where students get Ivy League ROI on a ramen budget.

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2:29:52 Yeah, we should be upselling everybody. Are you going to record the lecture on mental literacy? I'm not doing anything on mental literacy! I'm doing something on propaganda. Propaganda! Well that's media literacy... No it's not! It's about propaganda. I'm just gonna play some super cuts and then mic drop and i'm out. Thanks for coming kids Steve Downtown Brown, Monticello Indiana 210. Switcheroo he says this is for my good buddy Jason Meyer who first introduced me to your show his birthday was Tuesday and on the same day he passed a CISSP exam okay what is that yeah it's a yeah because that some kind of computer thing

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2:32:54 Any frequency, all you have to do is go to noagendadonations.com and again thank you to our executive and associate executive producers for 1762. Our formula is this... We go out there we hit people in the mouth. New World Order! Shut up Steve! I do have a clip. I want to get out of the way which was did have to do with the Pope But it was about the conclave specifically some producers and I thought it was interesting because it brings up a point I've never heard this term, I don't know anything about it This was during a one or two hour special with Nora O'Donnell somebody else sitting in The plaza there just across from the Sistine Chapel yakking away about nothing

2:33:48 But this commentary came through it and I thought would be worth the, this is... This one it's not topic. It has nothing to do with the Pope selection at all but play this clip as The Conclave Clip. Or doing- The one thing we know they're not doing is checking Instagram because their devices are full of copies. I believe that kids call it raw dogging if you're going through a long period of time with no electronic device. Oh right well there are certain names so they might be used. Have you ever heard this term raw dogging? Our kids call it raw dogging. Well, it is a sex term from where I come from Raw doggin' is having sex without use of a prophylactic That's how I've always understood the term raw doggin'. Somebody slipped in there then somebody... This little... It's..I think this was a plant one of those things that slip into the mainstream media

2:34:48 to embarrass people. Yeah, probably! Although I've heard it used in other terms than unprotected sex...I don't see the connection between unprotected sex and not using your phone. The connection is elusive. The trolls say no, I don't know. It's a thing This was planted as it does a joke is like wink-wink nudge nudge Or can also be no no lube that can be another version when you're just making it up now aren't your trolls? You just met it's like a stick fight basically raw dog So I'm getting incoming That the the new Pope

2:35:41 Leo the 14th is no big President Trump fan. That's why they picked him then? Yep, he has posted in the past now this is before he was president in 2016 that his anti-immigrant rhetoric is problematic He... oh here's something more recent I think he may not be a fan of President Trump We'll see it doesn't have to be that's fine It doesn't have to be, but that may have helped in God's choice I guess.

2:36:21 Yeah. Not sure how that works well speaking of raw dogging baby Decorated musical executive producer and songwriter 85 year old William Smokey Robinson coming under fire Four of his former housekeepers allege repeated and brutal sexual assaults and harassment at the hands of their former boss I will not describe the details of the sexual assaults and rapes because they're too graphic and disturbing for this news conference. The first alleged victim said Robinson assaulted her seven times in one year, targeting her during her weekend shift. A second plaintiff contends the musician would ask her to meet him in parts of his Chatsworth home where he knew there weren't any cameras and sexually abused her 23 times over a number of years

2:37:05 A third recalled Mr. Robinson calling her into his blue bedroom and assaulting her a total of 20 times The fourth woman, and the longest serving employee was allegedly raped in three of the singer's homes while employed between 2006-2024 All four plaintiffs say they were reticent to report the abuse fearing they would lose their jobs And felt intimidated by Robinson celebrity status He's a music legend who has written more than 4,000 songs and has been inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. At least one person also worried about adverse effects to her immigration status. And we did reach out to Smokey Robinson's management team. We haven't yet heard back. The district attorney tells me that it has not received a case from law enforcement and therefore it will not be filing any kind of criminal charges at this point.

2:37:52 Wow, what is that? Like they're smirching his name. At 85 poor smokers And going back 27 times this reminds me of the bear joke which has the punchline I won't tell the joke but people out there know this joke where the bear says you didn't come here for the hunting did ya Meanwhile in Brazil when they don't like an artist, they take care of the artists in a different way. Particularly if there may be some satanic over or undertones with that artist. We've got to get to something pretty serious. There are two suspects in custody this morning for allegedly planning bomb a Lady Gaga concert in Brazil. So police say that these suspects were targeting the LGBTQ community and that they attempted to recruit people, including teenagers to carry out attacks at Saturday's concert. The weapons improvised explosives Molotov cocktails investigators say group that promotes hate speech and encourages violence among teens orchestrated this one of them allegedly had an even darker plan

2:38:52 He claimed the singer had a Satanist religious inclination and as such he would respond in the same way. And that he would also promote a Satanist ritual by killing a child or baby in a live stream during the show. Oh, alright! Lady Gaga... Man... We live in a fallen world. I have to comment here about this. Okay yes? Not about the choice of character guys who tried to bomb, but about the two million people that supposedly were at this event. Brazilians are notorious exaggerators and this goes back to I don't know the late 80's or 90's and Jerry Purnell and I were invited down to the biggest tech event in the world! Oh with hundreds of thousands of attendees? No no 2 million millions I tell you

2:39:44 So Jerry and I both had stakeouts in different parts of the show where you could count. There's only one or two entrances, so you could do a one hour calculation to figure out what the number was and we'd come up with our own number and compare them. And we both came up with pretty much the same number. The maximum number people that they could have possibly had is 200 thousand maybe as opposed to the 2 million that they claimed And then I've also seen a picture of the National Mall in Washington, D.C., that had 500 thousand and this little group in Rio at the beach on Ipanema which I've been to is no way it was more than maybe 50 thousand maybe but they say two million and I realized back with Pornell that the Brazilians are prone to exaggerate because this is the way their whole country started

2:40:41 When they made a deal and when the Portuguese made the deal with Spain, the Spanish says you could have whatever. They told the Portuguese just tell us what their coordinates are of where you've been and what you think your country is or where that country's located. And they went here! Give us give us the numbers and we'll... That will be Brazil, you can have it And so they weren't, nobody was up in the Amazon and nobody was up there. They just made up some numbers and got these coordinates to make the country so damn big it was a lie! And the Brazilians do this they lie exaggerate it's a very is a feature of the culture that don't believe these numbers and all these reporters that kept talking about two million people at the Gaga counts

2:41:28 concert are full of it. They could have looked and seen it was not possibly too many people, that's twice the entire population of San Francisco! This makes a lot of sense now in light of the BBL The what? The BBL Yeah? The Brazilian butt lift they're all fake butts down there huge big butts and you think oh it's a big butt no it's at BBL they're fakers That's good information. This is the first time I've heard that Yes, and you should be aware that the Brazilians exaggerate And it just a fact if you do any reporting on Brazil You should know that I just got an insider tip here

2:42:13 Apple apparently is considering moving to an AI search ending their deal with Google Which is what seven? Billion dollars or something some outrageous amount where they pay a google for the what does google pay them for search I have no idea. Oh, it's billions and billions And then how bad is that gonna suck oh Yeah, we're gonna do AI search. But you know that's gonna suck. It's gonna suck Hey! We have a name just what we're doing some M5M stuff. We have a name Have you heard the name? The new name? The official name for Spinco

2:42:54 Remember spinco yes, and by the way for people who said you know Spinco is a name that's often used as code. Yeah We knew that we knew that but we have a name we have some news close to home The group of media brands including CNBC That are being spun off from Comcast and NBCUniversal later this year now has a name versant The name chosen as a blueprint for versatility, growth and innovation. Versant? It's spelled V-E-R-S-A-N-T. Versant! Versant? What do you think of the name, I'll continue the clip in a moment. What do you think of this name John? Stinks! Stinks, I agree and they're going to defend it here this is CNBC part now of Versant This is the company's new logo cable network CNBC MSNBC Gulf Channel USA oxygen and more will all be apart of Versant now

2:43:50 They should have called it Crazy Co. That was much more catchy, the trolls are better at this. It would've worked for me. Well as digital assets including Fandango Golf Now and Sports Engine CNBC media and sports reporter Alex Sherman is here with me Alex you have more details on this new name very exciting. This is corporate history that we're living right now Kelly Corporate history! Yeah versant like conversant Imagine this gig Alright, you are the one that's going to announce a name. Oh please don't make me do it Don't make me know but do I have to announce this stupid name? Okay The name was chosen i'm told To speak to the versatility of the brands in the company You just listed them a lot of different brands covering different things not versatile They're all stupid whose sports digital assets rotten tomatoes and fandango or part of this company

2:44:39 Also, did you know that rotten tomatoes and fan no I did not know we're out in two meals as part of the deal Oh that actually makes a deal a little bit more attractive. They're gonna spin it out public though I'm told that originally through the process of this Choosing the name I spoke with the CEO of the company Mark Lazarus a thousand names or even more than 1,000 names were thought of were vetted the legal process ticked that list down from a thousand to... We literally come up with domain names on the fly here and have hundreds of them. We had 1,000 names legal process we had to get everybody involved with an off-site we had a whiteboard we had all kinds of and then we boiled it down to 100. I have to interrupt. The rotten tomatoes does fit into this scheme because they've been leaning

2:45:29 MSNBC all these guys they're all leaning it right. What's the definition of versant? I looked it up a region of land sloping in one direction Wow So they got the right name. They got the right name! Wow We're thought of, we're vetted The legal process ticked that list down from a thousand to forty-three That's how difficult it is to actually find a name Something thats not taken? Thats not already taken There are trademark things people have to go through both nationally and globally That list was then culled down to about twelve There were presentations made on the 12th At the offsite, presentations made at the offsite

2:46:10 Versant was chosen also, then the word versant itself is an actual word. It's something that I learned through the process of this. Which we won't explain because it doesn't sound good? It means the slope of land. Mark Lazarus joked with me that perhaps he could see that as a sloping upward like a line that was moving up for a stock symbol Oh, what a way to... Wow! That is some fake news right there. It slopes down towards one side but he says oh no it slopes up it's like glass half full glass half empty. Well I did say slope in one direction but not

2:46:48 Up or down. Well, you don't want it to slope once you call the company hockey stick if you're talking It means the slope of land Mark Lazarus joke with me that perhaps he could see that as a sloping upward Like a line that was moving up for a stock symbol So perhaps, you know the pathway has been set for this company of assets once it trades publicly which will be later this year to be a riser. Is there any more clarity on when that date might be sometime in the next few months? Well we don't know exactly still I just know it's toward the end of here which is always been on the plan and I can say that none of the market volatility over the past month or so has moved Comcast off the date of spinning off the assets later this year. Versant

2:47:34 Alex, get used to it. Yes indeed! Try it on for size. Okay try it on for size get used to it everybody that's what your stock options are going to say. Get used to what? Versant. You know constitutional lawyer Rob well we actually talked yesterday let me go up to his house he lives in Canyon Lake supposed to be really nice up there I chatted with him yesterday and he says the craziest thing he's seen of all the Trump stuff is the trans-military ban. This is going through like five different courts, everyone's pile jumping on this thing I even put his analysis in the show notes so you can read it

2:48:16 But I mean it's because you know, it goes back to the what Biden administration had then the Trump administration with the district courts Then it says Supreme Court than the Ninth Circuit and then 9th circuit bounces back and forth. I mean this is this is really a very interesting Hill for people to maybe want to die on or just like this is the most important thing in their life And yeah, why he's another trap Well, let's listen. The US Supreme Court has allowed the Trump administration to begin executing its ban on transgender military service members at least- Very nice term! I love that they use EXECUTING this ban

2:48:55 You know, this is NPR. They don't they don't just choose these words willy-nilly Trump administration to begin executing its ban on transgender military service members at least for now Join us and talk about this as NPR legal affairs correspondent Nina Totenberg Now Nina President Trump has been trying a band transgender troops that you know like Nina Oh, she's the worst. She's an old hack! She's been around for a hundred years and she comes on meackying... Really never brings in any real insight. Uh, she's notorious for something I forgot what started her career to be a hotshot? No. She probably makes about half a million dollars doing nothing. Of course she does. The military since his first administration what's the difference between then and now

2:49:38 In the first Trump term, he partially succeeded but the ban was reversed by President Biden only to be put back in place by Trump after he took office for a second term. This new order mimics the Trump order from the first administration and appears to strengthen it as well barring transgender individuals from enlisting and discharging active duty transgenders service members. Alright so what did the Supreme Court do yesterday? In a one-paragraph unsigned order, the justices revived the transgender ban which had been temporarily blocked by the lower courts. The court's three liberal justices—Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson—noted their dissents and would have barred the administration from putting the ban in place while the case continues to be litigated in the lower courts. So the case now goes back to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals for the Trump policy to be reviewed

2:50:33 So, we're bouncing back and forth. And let's learn about the new policy what it exactly is? There has been a lot of back-and-forth in this case since 2016 that when the Obama administration first allowed openly trans individuals to serve in the military so how is the new policy different The Obama policy was reversed by Trump in 2017, followed by new rules issued by then-Defense Secretary James Mattis. The Mattis rules allowed exceptions to the ban for active service members previously diagnosed with gender dysphoria. But the new policy, the Trump 2 policy is significantly tougher because it bars from the military anyone with a gender dysphoria diagnosis. And while that isn't everyone it is most trans individuals. Now where are things now? That's an important little data point... Well the question always remains to me why do you want

2:51:35 In the military, which is a discipline-oriented pursuit. Vocation? Why would you want people with gender dysphoria that you have to treat... Or any dysphoria or any issue! Yes! Neurosis is psychotic and schizophrenics we don't want them either. Bipolar borderline personality. I mean there's all kinds of things you don't want anything with dysphoria is probably, you're right, probably not what you want! You want killing machines!! And while that isn't everyone it is most trans individuals Now where are things now?

2:52:14 The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals will take a whack at deciding the issue, and that decision can be appealed to the Supreme Court though the ban is likely to remain in place during the appellate process. Let me cut to the chase here what are the chances that the Supreme Court will ultimately rule against the Trump Trans Ban in the military? Probably slim to none The fact is that the Supreme Court, even on a temporary basis has allowed the Trump administration to proceed with carrying out the ban. And that's a pretty strong indicator that the administration is very likely to prevail in the long run. And then for me, the kicker... how many people are we actually talking about here? When it comes to the numbers of people how many trans individuals are in the military right now under the policy that allowed them to enlist and serve

2:52:59 According to the Pentagon, about 0.2% of active military forces or about 4,000 individuals. So Nina I'm wondering who are the plaintiffs that brought this challenge? They're a group of current and aspiring transgender service members including lead plaintiff Emily Schilling, a Navy pilot who's flown more than 60 combat missions over her nearly two decades in military service Ruling in their favor, Judge Benjamin Settle in Washington State who's a George W. Bush appointee concluded that the government's classification of gender dysphoria as a disqualifying medical condition was essentially a ruse motivated by hostility towards transgender people." I love that she adds in there

2:53:45 George W. Bush appointee we know that, we know what George liked. Safe to say that the Supreme Court will eventually actually rule on this? Probably the case will come back to court next term for a final ruling regardless of who wins in the 9th Circuit I think George W. Bush was a horn dog Remember he had those guys in the press pool remember that You think of George W. or George H. Kennedy? No, George W., the second one. The Texas guy. Yeah he had those gay prostitutes Don't you remember that? Oh, I vaguely remember that. That's right the guy showed up in a... somebody outed him and they posted it yeah he was posting online he was some sort of gay prostitute yes and he was in the press pool for some unknown reason asking stupid questions Yes! I do remember that mm-hmm we have long memories people be very careful

2:54:44 Let me see, we got five minutes. I want to play this clip- Five minutes! Yes, it's a five minute warning with two minutes to go and here is the question because this is Up Where You Live Notice that I didn't say your neck of the woods This morning President Trump is directing the federal government To reopen Alcatraz The notorious former prison on San Francisco Bay known as The Rock Considered escape proof And subject of multiple Hollywood films No one has ever escaped from Alcatraz Trump says he wants to reopen and expand the prison to house America's most ruthless and violent offenders.

2:55:39 It comes after a new interview, which the president said he does not know whether every person in the US is entitled to due process as his administration pushes to deport immigrants in the country illegally. Now again they complaint We have a person, a ranger I believe. Ranger? I can't remember his name who works at Alcatraz! I don't know if he's still there...I think he may have been moved Well but he still has info Yeah he took me to the tour I took Jay and a friend Oh you actually took him up on that You went on the tour That was pretty cool It was great because we had our own little cart And we went into parts of the facility that no one gets to see

2:56:21 Wow, so I mean there was an underground. There's a hospital like abandoned Hospital and we just took it to Ranger Craig Ranger Craig yeah ranger It wasn't range of rage or age Craig right Ranger Craig right? I think yes He took us all over that were all in a kind of a separate tour. I got the closed this cell doors With it grab the handle and pull it from the inside or the outside From the outside obviously can't close it from the inside And it makes a large clink you get a feeling for the amount of stress It takes to pull it give me an idea we talked about Ranger Craig on episode 115 2009 I don't think he's there anymore. I think he moved. I know if he's alive

2:57:04 He wasn't an old guy, he was a young guy. Yeah! But you know we got a great tour What are people saying about this in San Francisco? We think it's bullcrap. Really? Everybody does! Seems like a great place to put criminals. It is, no it's impossible that place is a wreck. It's a mess except for the areas that the public gets to see if you actually got behind the scenes and see the other stuff going on... No Again, the perfect place to put criminals Well maybe but yeah No, they're not going to do anything. It's a tourist trap it's bringing in 60 million a year is the number. There it is we don't want to lose that money. It's bringing in that much and probably the maintenance is gonna be less than that. It's making money. It's dumb to turn... You can find some place in the middle of nowhere and build a prison from scratch. It'd be cheaper I'm gonna show my support by donating to KnowAgenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah! That would be fab Yeah on KnowAgenda

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3:06:48 I haven't thought about it yet. In the morning from sun-drenched Scheveningen in Holland. In the morning, this is Freya at Heart Beach Club in Scheveningen at The Splash Up. Great meeting! Thank you Arno. In the morning Natalia here and I just had some spicy mussels and now I'm going to splash into the sea like a mermaid. Hi, I'm Karoline. It's really fun to meet you all again and there are some cool guys with us because they just went into the sea and swam! Well not me! Hi, I am Chris it has been really fun serving everyone. Really fun day life is amazing enjoy every second. All right with some coded messages in there they were

3:07:29 really got into the North Sea. It's a server at the end too yes I think that the Dutch girl also was a server she said these people are crazy they're jumping into the ocean it's too cold that's what no agenda people do we're crazy but we are lovable crazies tonight you can join them at the Quad Cities Iowa area meetup seven o'clock and Lopez Davenport, Iowa big nasty organizing that and on saturday the treasure valley meet up three o'clock at old state saloon in eagle idaho now we have some important meetups coming up this month leiden in the netherlands that'll be on the fourteenth charlotte north carolina fifteen to sixteen is white fair whitefield new hampshire on the seventeenth we are loaded for bear bedford texas colorado springs colorado fort wayne indiana new canton virginia springfield organ and

3:08:17 Well, it's Lukenbach technically but Fredericksburg Texas Curry and the Keeper will be there and many more of your local Texas celebrities. Keene New Hampshire on the 18th Culemborg in Gelderland in the Netherlands on 29th 31st Pensauken Township New Jersey Overland Park Kansas on 31st Long Beach California 31st Leeuwe Bravo at it again And I might as well throw this one in on June 1st Tokyo Japan Are you getting the picture here? These Noah Jenner meetups, they're not just like some little thing. This is a whole movement! Go to noahjennermeetups.com and find one near you If you can't find one start one yourself it's easy and always guaranteed a party!

3:09:07 Well, to use a Dutchism in the old country for ISOs I threw my cap at it. Threw my cap at it Which means that... Did the cap hit anything? No, I mean... That means I just threw my cap at her which means I didn't really do a lot of work Didn't do a good job So you don't have anything. I do, I have three. Okay let's go! I made it to no agenda. Okay... Well that's nice. It's not bad A little embarrassing. Mkay and maybe this one? I love it! I love it yeah thats cute. That's cute. Yeah its not bad Alright lets see..I got three. mkay I got WTH What the hell is going on here

3:09:59 No Biden end of show isos, man. No. Okay how about a Dorbs? That podcast was a Dorbs! Yeah well that end-of-show ISO is AI but it's not bad. Well then let's go with the last one so good... These podcasters are SO GOOD at this Now I go with podcast was a dorms. I think that's just gay enough John It's definitely everybody is time for our final bit here. It's no agendas John's tip of the day And sometimes Adam created by Dana Burnett II

3:10:43 Okay, this is a product everyone should have. You get used to buy them in packs of eight or 10 and the key to success with these items is they have to be fresh. Fresh! Which I recommend finding the vendor and getting them shipped directly from the vendor or getting them from Amazon, popular one from Amazon where you know it's fresh. Pheromone Moth Attractant Sticky Pads. Okay, why would we want to have pheromone moth sticky pads? Pheromone moths... well for one reason I need a found of the moth attack on one of my Persian rugs. Oh wait you have persian rugs yeah i have a couple do you fly around on them

3:11:32 Persian rugs are a really good price nowadays, by the way. Best price! But do you have them on the floor or in your... Yeah they're on the floor I get them there all over the place we have everybody in the family has a bunch of these either Turkish or Persian rugs Interesting that's something I did not know about the Dvorak clan I've learned something new every day These rugs are great So and they're not expensive anymore No So the moths, so here's the deal. There are moths in the world and they get in the house and you wouldn't even know it. I'm telling you pull out one of these pheromone moth pack strips or actually a little sticky pad like that you catch them with when you pull the top off. The pheromones get released. You put on top of the refrigerator, you put somewhere by the way F-H-E-E-R M-O-N-E and look at up that way

3:12:24 You've never seen anything like it. I don't care how clean and fancy your house is, there's no moths in there? No that's for sure! Put one of these on top of the refrigerator a good fresh one and within 10 minutes all of a sudden you'll find moths are in your house. Oh no, that's disgusting! Because they're flying to the attracted and then they stick get stuck on the thing it's mostly the males And then there are tasty treats Well I know this just becomes they stick stuck in the goo and that's the end of them but everybody has these stupid moths in their house and they don't know it and you want to get these traps That's why they sell them in 10 packs because that's how many moths you end up capturing

3:13:08 So this is a big deal to do. Wow! I'm sorry, I didn't do it on the room that had the nice rug in it now But if you have it on top of the refrigerator will attract them from the room with a nice rug does It work that far? No, it'll suck them in from about typically from three or four rooms wow This is a powerful. I'm kind of afraid to do that because you know then was like if Tina sees like oh now we have moss She's bad enough with me putting down mousetraps cuz I always catch something Yeah, well put it somewhere where she can't see them and do it when she's not around because I'm telling you within five or ten minutes you'll start to see moths. They're all heading into the trap! It's gross actually how many moths all of a sudden show up in your house. Another gross tip for the day ladies and gentlemen go review it at tipoftheday.net noagendafund.com

3:14:03 Wow. And sometimes Adam, created by Dana Burnetti By the way that Tip of the Day jingle is by Shwoo Michael! Michael is the guitarist for Mercy Me and Tina is up in Cedar Park going to see the show tonight She's not gonna stiff him like you did when they came to play I'll go and have drinks. I sent him a text. They called Tina out from stage man, that'll be fun I don't know if he'll do it. He always wears an Oaginda shirt when playing though that's pretty cool That's it. Our broadcast day has concluded we do have oh look at this curry in the keeper episode 132 recorded just last night a Mounder is the title that's coming up next on your no agenda stream or your modern podcast app and of course We will return on Sunday as usual where we will bring you another minimum three hours of completely bonus content firewall paywall free beauty

3:15:08 which we do as a public service. End of show mixes from James Bosworth, he's back and Nautilus K., who is on a roll! And I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg where we have that meet-up coming up on the 17th In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Duvorak We return on Sunday please join us here for more No Agenda Until then adios mofos! Ahoy hoy And such! I was the Kim Kardashian of this coin. Look, look, look. But ginormous but, but ginormous but, but, but, look ginormous look I was the Kim Kardashian of this coin without the big butt or the money Without the big butt or the money

3:16:09 ginormous look, ah, look-look, ah, ah, yes ginormous I was the Kim Kardashian of this coin without the big butt or the money Tariffs. Ultimately, I take responsibility for everything but I've only just been here a little more than three months.

3:17:16 Yeah, maybe the children will have $2 instead of $30. You acknowledge when you announce tariffs for example, the stock market dropped and volatile it has gone up. Do you take responsibility? Ultimately I take responsibility for everything but I've only just been here a little more than three months Maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls. What a conversation! I just heard like public network news. Stop buying junk from China, wake up people! Maybe the children will have 2 dolls instead of 30 dolls. Stop buying junk from China, wake up people! Maybe the children will have 2 doll instead of 30 dolls

3:18:13 Are you saying that your tariffs will cause some prices to go up? No, I think the tariff's gonna be great for us because it's going to make us rich. But you said some dollars are gonna cost more isn't that an acknowledgement that some prices will go up? I don't think a beautiful baby girl needs...that's 11 years old needs to have 30 dolls! They can have three dolls or four dolls Yeah yeah yeah The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A. That podcast was adorbs