Episode 1737 · Sunday, 9 February 2025

Wrong Puberty

Streaming infrastructure buckles under the Super Bowl as the Department of Government Efficiency uncovers systemic reconciliation failures within the United States Treasury Department.

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YouTube TV subscribers faced widespread technical failures during Super Bowl LIX as the 4K streaming feed collapsed under massive concurrent demand, leaving viewers with error messages instead of the game. The infrastructure breakdown highlights the persistent limitations of digital streaming compared to traditional over-the-air signals. Meanwhile, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) continues its aggressive restructuring of federal agencies, sparking a media firestorm over staffer nicknames and the vetting of young appointees like Akash Bhola.

Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway of the Pivot podcast issued a public call for local authorities to arrest DOGE staffers for trespassing, while Wired Editor-in-Chief Katie Drummond published an investigation into alleged Russian domain links within Elon Musk's team. At the Treasury Department, DOGE analysts reportedly extracted the entire 2023-2024 payment database to expose a lack of modern reconciliation processes. These efforts coincide with a federal judge blocking the dismantling of USAID, an agency now under fire for spending $241 million on transgender research in mice and rats. Further reports indicate that aging COBOL legacy systems at the IRS may cause significant delays for 2025 tax refunds as the administration attempts to replace retiring programmers with AI-assisted coding.

DeepSeek AI provided a moment of levity by hallucinating a claim that Adam Sandler invented podcasting in the 1920s, while the NFL faced criticism from The View for replacing social justice end zone stencils with a Choose Love message. The episode features original artwork by Tantaniel and a series of audio reports from producer meetups in North Idaho and Washington state. The show concludes with the Black Magic Elon mix, satirizing the media's reaction to the ongoing federal budget cuts.


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CHAPTER 01 / 35 Discussion

YouTube TV 4K Streaming Issues, Super Bowl Bandwidth

YouTube TV experienced significant technical difficulties with its 4K feed during the Super Bowl LIX broadcast, resulting in "uh-oh" error messages for subscribers. The failure highlights the limitations of current streaming architecture when handling massive concurrent audiences compared to traditional over-the-air antenna signals. Discussion includes the historical failure of the M-Bone multicast backbone and the rising costs of digital television subscriptions.

youtube tv· google tv· 4k streaming· comcast· super bowl· bandwidth· m-bone

00:00 Tell you, Mr. Producer... Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Sunday February 9th 2025 This is your award-winning Cuba Nation Media Assassination Episode 1737! This is no agenda We're doubling down and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country Right here in FEMA Region Number 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Came from northern Silicon Valley where it's Super Bowl Sunday I'm John C. Dvorak Sports ball sports ball everybody. Hey, everybody's doing everyone is taking their donations and his betting on the game that would be I'll tell you this it's choking a network. It's a Google TV. Yes Oh is just

00:50 So they have a 4k feed for that. I think this may be the first time we've seen 4K for the Super Bowl Is this you mean YouTube TV? I'm sorry, yeah YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, right Yes, that's great because there is actually a Google TV which is something else always It's just a bunch of videos anyway, the YouTube TV which is a substitute for cable. Yeah is choking in its own vomit What are you watching? Are you watching Fox or what are you watching? Well, it's on Fox. The Super Bowl is on Fox and so they have a 4K feed plus the regular feed and the 4k feed won't load it's just choking and it gives your message like oh-oh something went wrong try again Oh! And actually says uh-oh at U H O U UH OH

01:41 I'm watching now, it's okay. I don't have 4k but i have the regular feed Yeah well the 4K is just borked And you pay extra for that? You pay extra for a borked feed But you can just tell Are you an upset consumer? Is that what im hearing here You can tell that this is choking the network. Comcast is probably, you know everything is just being choked out by the Super Bowl interest I'm sure at the beginning of the game would be really bad Yeah It'll fade because we'll talk about the game later and make our predictions Yes And it will should...I doubt if its gonna be one of those close games but it could be

02:22 So people will bail out and then you get the fetal come through this is this whole streaming idea for TV Is a bad idea They'll get it. I mean, hmmm... Because I can turn on the...I can flip over to the antennae Yeah? Quality's just as good if not better. I have an antennae and it works just fine! It does And you yourself is the one who went on about in some post some years back about how well the problem with, you know, the internet is that everything's one-to-one. Yeah for every person you add to your audience it costs you more money though so that's always been the problem but... The whole architecture of Netflix and Amazon and Google is that they have a head, you know they have servers right there sitting connected directly to your connection if it's all done right but even that may be insufficient

03:22 It may be insufficient if you want to change the number, like how many people have... Yes we do. Netflix has a server on the server. Sure! A server on the server and so they have these little outlets of course if you want to watch something obscure it has to go their main office is not everything is on there bring back the M-Bone people The whole thing is a joke. Remember the M-Bone? Yeah, I remember the M-Bone that was another failed attempt Well no because nobody had the gear for the m bone but the M-Bone wasn't it was a good idea at the time It's just it went nowhere you needed to spark suns... Spark workstation

04:03 Yeah, it was the spark. I can't do it with Windows 11! I can't get on the M-Bone... It doesn't work. There's probably five people out there who remember the M-Bone So streaming works when the demand is within a millions of millions of people but if you got to 100 million people or once you go to 4k where you have pretty much multiplies everything by factor 5 in terms of bandwidth necessary Well you know what this is? It changes the way things... The model doesn't work. That's because they're putting all their CapEx expenditure into AI, they should be putting the money into streaming! Because that's a real risk I mean I try not to pay any money to anybody

04:49 What I pay for YouTube TV, what is it up to now? 70 bucks a month. Oh it keeps going up because it costs too much money to do it. They're probably losing money well they're probably not losing money those guys but the point is if you can't... If Google who's the initiator of large-scale systems for search for example and have networking capabilities that most people can only dream of can't manage the 4k stream over a Comcast 800 Megabit line. I remember when we had rabbit ears and life was good Well actually rabbit ears work quite well with H which is high-definition digital television, you know i'm looking at my My feed right now and it's very

CHAPTER 02 / 35 Discussion

Department of Government Efficiency, "Big Balls" Viral Nickname

Media outlets including CNN and Wired reported on a 19-year-old Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) staffer who used the online handle "Big Balls." The segment features a supercut of news anchors like Anderson Cooper repeating the nickname and a parody from a Donald Trump impersonator. The discussion centers on the juvenile nature of the media coverage regarding Elon Musk's cost-cutting team.

doge· elon musk· department of government efficiency· cnn· anderson cooper· trump impersonator

05:37 I knew this would happen. No, but it's very jarring to see the football field in the background with Speaker of the House Mike Johnson in the foreground. It's like my brain can't wrap around it. Like what is he doing there on the 50-yard line? Anyway, the reason why I have an on is because President Trump will be doubling down in his pregame interview! Doubling down! On his mandate. Doubling down on what? On his mandate to shutter these agencies! Oh well, that's... I guess they've seen the truth. I don't know how he can double down when he is already going at full tilt. Allow me to get you into your clips with a super clip- A mini super clip of some magnitude. Before we do that since you just teased that What series of clips? I have about four. Well when i play The Supercut You'll know exactly what to play and I'm gonna let you start it off

06:33 Stand by. Thanks for joining us we begin tonight with Musk and big balls Big Balls Big Balls who work for Elon Musk's so-called Department of Government Efficiency Doge in the one case of the big balls kid a literal teenager, uh big balls online that big balls here Uh that Katie is talking about A 19 year old that goes by the username big ball So that would be one way that we could refer to him young computer wizards Wizz is the aforementioned big balls because who among us doesn't feel better about big balls, big balls in charge of American air traffic control. I love the times we're in right now. Well that thing you started...you managed to...I don't know how you did it but you started this show off with the lowest common denominator juvenile material you could But its necessary because everyone loves saying Big Balls Everyone loves it! It's hilarious

07:27 It's hilarious. Everyone loves it! I only have the one clip which is mocking the whole thing, but I do have the intro clip which is this is the one that was in that mix which is big ball CNN and this is a woman on CNN she I believe she's the one who started off where once she said it on CNN, everybody could say it. Yes so this is a 19 year old high school graduate who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online Yeah that's the lady from Wired they're the ones that have done this outstanding reporting John There's just fabulous reporting. They've done all the reporting on the Doge team, the big balls, the big balls is amazing I just love that the most tepid and demure person who pronounces Big Balls is Anderson Cooper of all people, uh, Big Balls Everyone else like BIG BALLS! I get to say BIG BALLS on television and Anderson Cooper saying, oh, Big Balls Yeah well

08:24 This is a bit of an embarrassment to all television so so a guy comes on one of the many and I wish we could get this down the Trump impersonators Yeah, that guy's good. I'm glad you got this one He's pretty good in here's his little take on the whole big. This is a fake Trump doing Trump and his take on the big balls, and there's some good gags in here. This is your favorite president? And I'm very sorry to see Big Balls leaving Dush. Big Balls did tremendous work! Americans voted for Big Balls they voted for me and they call me biggest balls you know what i'm talking about

09:00 Fake News CNN is very unhappy with the name Big Balls. They wouldn't know big balls if it hit him in the face, except Anderson Cooper you know what I'm talking about? But i want to recognize some of the other fantastic people over at Doge Pat McCratch. Pat is doing a wonderful job. I've known him for a long time Phil McCracken. Phil is lighting it up doing wonderful work. Holden McGraw and hold on the groin is really carrying his way that much I can tell you and Michael Hunt, we've known Mike for a long time because my mic and we've known him for a long time but Americans voted overwhelmingly for big balls when they elected me and while

09:44 Well, big balls may not be working at Doge anymore. Biggest balls is still working as your president. We are making America ballsy again and we are making America great again that will continue that's not going to stop we will never give up we will never surrender we will never back down and we will make America great again believe me it's kind of sad when people in the troll room are arguing over whether this is AI or not. I mean, it's sad because this is one of the best impersonator voice and obviously you can tell it's not the president but he does a great job everything that he does in there is just good yeah. Yeah there's about five guys who are doing this and they're all when you get the cadence right its pretty funny

CHAPTER 03 / 35 Discussion

Pivot Podcast Meltdown, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway

Hosts of the Pivot podcast, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway, expressed extreme frustration regarding the Department of Government Efficiency's actions within federal agencies. Galloway called for members of Congress to physically block DOGE staffers and suggested local authorities should arrest the "young zealots" for trespassing. The commentary highlights the divide between the tech elite and the new administration's restructuring efforts.

kara swisher· scott galloway· pivot podcast· doge· elon musk· insurrection

10:32 Maybe just before you get into, you want to do Doge stuff which I think that's where we'd want to start right? That would be fine with me. You know as predicted... With these low donations like you said, you don't have to start anywhere My hate listen did not disappoint. Yes, I saw this you're talking about that by the way i thought that... You know? I don't watch these guys! I don't watch them only listen to them. I didn't even know they were doing video Well, I always thought they did video in a settee where they were seated and... No. Because she's got the cans on her ears. They always start this... We're talking about the Pivot podcast with Prof G and Kara Swisher? No, they always start off

11:22 talking about where they are and Prof G is like, I'm in London today my house here. I'm in Dubai I am visiting for the soccer match and Kara's like, I'm in DC oh no we're renovating the house in DC! I'm in San Francisco...I have a secret project I'm here in Los Angeles They are the biggest elitist... Oh always Wow. I'm in New York, thank you Scott for letting me use your apartment in New York they're always talking about where they are and what house they're in now they apparently each have at least two or three oh I'm in Miami Galloway has homes in Miami Oh it's every there! Oh yeah...oh it's amazing

12:03 So there was a clip, I know which clip you're gonna play but there was another clip that somebody posted in one of the threads where Galloway is bragging about how what a smart move it was to bet $385,000. Oh yeah, yeah. But i think i had that clip along and we didn't play it Yeah, that's at the election. He said you know this is a... You know I'm sure thing million dollars payout No no but he was saying because you know he's an investor very successful investor very successful extremely accessible and yeah successful investors throwing $385,000 on a presidential bid bet for Kamala Harris Okay, that's smart The clip that is more interesting I don't have that one either Is where it says

12:48 Okay, so I lost $400,000. For me that's just a bad hour or so but you know it doesn't really move the needle for me This is how these people talk they're amazing They're amazing all right Let's just play this where they become completely unhinged over doge And and at the question is a lot of them are like what do we do? They're literally asking me What do we do to stop him I'm sorry, this is the one i want to play. I wanna know who are these... Wait wait! Are you gonna play that other one still? The one where she says people are asking me because I am the great expert on Musk Well we might as well play it now And and and the question is a lot of them were like what do we do they're literally asking me what do we do to stop him Oh yeah people oh by the way Galloway oh yeah now had at least five senators call me

13:37 Oh yeah, no they are the creme de la creme of the elite. The people are unbelievable! If I have a problem who you gonna call? Kara Swisher?! I was like...I just don't- I was like you actually don't have the means to do so because these poor people are in these agencies and when these idiots come in, these children, arrogant little pricks come in and say we're going to call the federal marshals or the president has ordered you to step aside. Hold on stop it How does she know they're arrogant little pricks? Has she met even one of them? Well, they work with Elon. How could they not be?! How do you call somebody an arrogant little prick when you've never met them? I think it's...I think that they can sue!

14:22 Yeah, we have big balls. We have big balls you can't just say we're little pricks no The president has ordered you to step aside They kind of have to you know You have to be resistant and be be walked out by security and then security doesn't know which one to listen to right? Right I'd like to see all this is this is my favorite because He, I listen to the whole podcast and at a certain point he's like... I advise all these people who- because they don't just call Karen. They call Prof G. The very successful Prof G And he said you need to go down there and you need to get arrested You need to get arrested to make the point Whatever it is 48 or 49 US senators and any Republicans that want to join I'd like to see a couple hundred members of Congress Go to the fucking building where this is and demand to go in and physically stop this and let them arrest us What?

15:14 What kind of like guys in this cussing? Oh, the whole podcast is full of custom because they don't have any other words go to the fucking building where this is and Demand to go in and physically stop this and let them arrest you. Let them arrest Joe Yes Anyway, let's go to the the prof G Malia or the prof G meltdown I want to know who are these these young highly intelligent highly motivated Zealots following him into these buildings and shutting off payments to schools and Head Starts. I want to know their names Well, you know the local officials are trying to make that official the new newly installed Trump Are threatening people for naming their names just so you know go ahead Oh yeah But they can unmask CIA officers who put them their lives in harm's way

16:01 to try and keep our Americans safe. I want to know who their names are, and I want to see Democratic governors saying, I'm going to do everything in my power to use the full faith and to the letter of law put you folks in prison. I think what your doing is trespassing, this a coup, and be clear just because the new insurrectionist who was elected, you know I don't believe this is legal and i'm going to hold the people accountable who are trespassing in part of a coup accountable. To just sit back and say this is on this is horrible and this is unlawful we need to go

16:39 gangster here and say Hey, man I'm white we're gonna go gangsta. This is horrible and this is unlawful We need to go Gangster here gang say gangster look we are not a ghost gangster getting around this stuff This is illegal. This is a coup. This is the unlawful seizure of power We are not going to engage in these bullshit, ridiculous arguments over Gaza and Greenland. We are going to hold the people accountable here their names here their faces and we have contacted local authorities where these kids live, these young adults and we're going to hold them accountable.

17:24 String them up those kids. Yeah, lynch mob just a lynch mob mentality exactly great It's great and I think that she should return her Dvorak School of Broadcasting certificate I'll never make mention of again no one you could have mentored could become this unhinged on air ever Just doesn't happen. I believe that's correct, she got mentored as she says herself by Walt Mossberg Yeah yeah and we all know the truth She did show up on the show though so there you go Yeah yeah she did I gave her a break You can condemn me for that I'm not condemning you i am grateful Think about it I mean there yet It's 15 minutes of this show Well yes its material yeah Its material We've done material Great you need to doctorate more these people Good work good work

CHAPTER 04 / 35 Discussion

NPR Coverage of DOGE, Treasury Payment System Access

NPR reported on the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) gaining access to sensitive federal payment systems at the Treasury Department. The coverage focuses on staffers like Tom Krause and the potential legal challenges regarding their authority to halt government spending. Critics argue that the reporting ignores systemic waste and fraud within agencies like USAID.

npr· doge· usaid· treasury department· tom krause· elon musk

18:13 Alright, uh... Doge clips. JCD go! You and Mark Levin cut three! Clip ten! Tell you Mr Producer Yeah, exactly. Well let's go over the distraught clips these are from NPR and this is a series of how distraught and ruined lives are becoming because of... And listen carefully to these clips because they make no mention in PR and I have some complaints about NPR as usual later. Why not?

18:51 They make no mention of the waste, fraud and abuse. In fact they claim there's none because everything is USAID it is great let's go clip. Elon Musk continues to send shockwaves through the federal government his cost cutting team the Department of Government Efficiency or DOGE has been tearing through the government since inauguration day But now, Doge has been hit with multiple lawsuits and a member of the team even stepped down after a series of racist social media posts surfaced. What do we actually know about this newly created entity that has so much power? What are they doing and who is working there well for help understanding some of this We're joined now by NPR Shannon Bond who has been following all things Doge. Hi, Shannon. Hi, Elsa Okay So just lay out what we know so far about what Doge is doing

19:43 Yeah, so our reporting shows this effort appears to be focusing on technology and personnel at federal agencies. So staffers connected to DOJ are gaining access to sensitive systems and information on government payments and about employees. And Elon Musk, who's leading the effort has been cheering on their work on his platform X. He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan By the way pay attention to people who say USAID versus USAID

20:22 because that's one of those, that's kind of... Yeah it's a little tricky. It was like Federal Reserve you know? But if you listen to the end play the end again because she emphasizes I don't even know if these are real programs or not but there's no mention of any of the Guatemalan sex change operations or promoting gay agenda in Uganda which has a death penalty or any of the other kinds of screwball things these guys do, she just passes it off as some great operation that is the best. He's taken credit for efforts to dismantle the US Agency for International Development which has funded everything from relief efforts in Ukraine to secret schools for girls in Afghanistan. Yeah okay fabulous yes there are secret schools for girls in Afghanistan you need some all right you need something yeah

21:17 One word. Musk has also said that Doge is shutting down what he calls quote illegal payments from the Department of Health and Human Services to nonprofit groups But look, even as he is talking about all this stuff there are still a lot of questions about the scope of what Doge is doing and whether they actually have the authority to do it. Deborah Perlstein is a constitutional scholar at Princeton University. One of the reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all And that also includes who it is who's doing this. There's a laundry list of stuff they're doing. The reasons we can't tell what's going on and what power they have is because they haven't really made what they're doing public at all, and that also includes who it is who's doing this work exactly so what do we know about the people working for Doge? Like who are they

22:12 Right. So there is a Doge team in the White House that Musk is leading, but a lot of this stuff is actually happening in the agencies. There are staffers connected to Doge fanning out across the federal government. For example we have a number of Musk-connected figures who've been named to senior roles. That includes Tom Krause he's a tech CEO who just today was put in charge of the Treasury Department system that processes trillions of dollars in payments every year Now, what's notable here Elsa is that this week in a legal challenge around this arrangement the government said that Kraus has read-only access to this payment system. But then we have Musk posting publicly about shutting off payments and so now his ally is running that system.

22:55 There are other folks who've worked at Musk companies, including Tesla and XAI who are in senior positions at the Office of Personnel Management and the General Services Administration. And of course there's also this group of young male software engineers that have gotten a lot of attention. Oh yeah, including the staffer who resigned just yesterday right? What was his story? Okay I just need to say something, just interject a little bit here The ageism is really, it's almost... I mean in a way understand it but kind of baffling because whenever it comes to the greatest technology and your iPhone Everybody's always happy about, oh these are the smartest kids in the world. They're young you know they're making my camera better You know they're making everything faster it's fantastic What were they used to call them? Ninjas! Code ninjas! They're the best there the greatest now is like what

CHAPTER 05 / 35 Discussion

COBOL Legacy Systems, IRS Refund Delay Predictions

Technical experts warn that federal agencies like the Treasury and IRS rely on aging COBOL legacy systems maintained by "graybeard" programmers who are now retiring. There are concerns that DOGE's attempt to modernize these systems using AI-assisted coding will fail because large language models are not trained on COBOL. This technical friction could lead to significant delays in processing 2025 tax refunds.

cobol· treasury department· irs· ai coding· graybeards· tax refunds

22:12 Right. So there is a Doge team in the White House that Musk is leading, but a lot of this stuff is actually happening in the agencies. There are staffers connected to Doge fanning out across the federal government. For example we have a number of Musk-connected figures who've been named to senior roles. That includes Tom Krause he's a tech CEO who just today was put in charge of the Treasury Department system that processes trillions of dollars in payments every year Now, what's notable here Elsa is that this week in a legal challenge around this arrangement the government said that Kraus has read-only access to this payment system. But then we have Musk posting publicly about shutting off payments and so now his ally is running that system.

22:55 There are other folks who've worked at Musk companies, including Tesla and XAI who are in senior positions at the Office of Personnel Management and the General Services Administration. And of course there's also this group of young male software engineers that have gotten a lot of attention. Oh yeah, including the staffer who resigned just yesterday right? What was his story? Okay I just need to say something, just interject a little bit here The ageism is really, it's almost... I mean in a way understand it but kind of baffling because whenever it comes to the greatest technology and your iPhone Everybody's always happy about, oh these are the smartest kids in the world. They're young you know they're making my camera better You know they're making everything faster it's fantastic What were they used to call them? Ninjas! Code ninjas! They're the best there the greatest now is like what

23:48 What do these kids know about the Treasury system? Oh my oh my. You can't let, you need and by the way they fired all the cobalt guys if he can still get a cobalt guy. I'll bring this up because I was talking to JC about this who is in that industry And he says that one of the things that happened with the USAID and it looks like Treasury too, and he predicted something which I'll mention. Which is exactly what you said, I'm glad you said it. The cobalt, the graybeards as they're called. Yes All retired and they are the ones who put all these systems together that work their systems do work but they're old just works They're old and according to you know the gossip mill is when the graybeards quit

24:41 They told all the kids that are running things because you know, the kids they don't JavaScript and can do C++ Rust! I need rust. He said...they said to the kids Don't touch anything And so these old COBOL systems are in place. But they're gonna have to upgrade at some point, and he says that... And that's the reason we've heard stories about oh they won't let him in, they won't let him look at anything, or they won't let them do this because there were... Because they don't know anything that's going on literally, so they can't help those guys. Now he says that they're gonna try to upgrade these systems and they're all gonna get

25:24 Because it's gonna be new code, new everything. It is all going to get borked and he predicted... I'm not gonna argue that Of course not because you don't you're yeah? Yeah, you know! I used to work for IBM was the AS 400 division was my client at Think New Ideas. I know I know, and they're like we can't put a web server on our boxes. We can't have a website unless it runs out of AS400. Okay good luck! So they have... he believes the following is gonna happen this is scenario that's a predictive scenario that I liked they're going to try to fix systems including the IRS filing system which apparently stopped working

26:11 And since it's an old COBOL system, basically they can't... He pointed out that AI coding which is all these new kids are doing. They use AI to do coding and doesn't code COBOL because there's not enough material to feed the language model. To slurp in right? So AI can't do COBOL And so they're gonna have to abandon COBOL and go to these new systems. He predicts it's going not work right away, there is such a big screw up at the IRS that it's gonna go as follows... You don't have to file!

26:54 That's alright because President Trump is going to take away income tax anyway. It's all good, it'll be fine! This may be part of that scheme... The way it goes like this you don't have to file right away You can file later the April 15th thing so they're gonna give him some slack on this But what it really means is you're not gonna get your refunds. Yeah, there's that yep There's that and so they're gonna be the government could be sitting on these refunds now That's for God knows how long that's the rumor mill JC's hearing yeah The rumor mill is you're not gonna get your refunds this year on time vicious by the way It's not good for this show You're hurting the show man doge wait not you think they're already changing the code now

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Wall Street Journal Report, Akash Bhola Resignation

Akash Bhola, a 25-year-old DOGE staffer, resigned following a Wall Street Journal report uncovering past social media posts regarding race and marriage. Media commentators labeled the posts as advocating for "eugenics," while others defended them as personal preferences common in various cultures. The incident sparked a broader debate about the vetting process for temporary government appointees.

akash bhola· wall street journal· doge· eugenics· wired· kara swisher

27:38 I don't know what they're up to. I'd have to talk to him some more about it this day. We didn't have dinner this last Friday because he's sick and you know, whatever that couf is and so I'll find out more later but... It's known as respiratory flu these days. It's different. Oh it's that what it is? That's what it is yeah. So I'll find out later but this is not... This is hilarious! This is a disaster in every way Alright, number three. Back to NPR. His name is Marco Ales. He's a 25-year old Rutgers University graduate who previously worked at SpaceX and at X. He was a temporary appointee at Treasury who was granted access to this payment system alongside Krauss

28:26 Now, on Thursday the Wall Street Journal identified racist posts from a social media account linked to him. Those posts have been deleted but NPR did independently confirm them and Alas has now resigned although Musk and Vice President JD Dance are saying he should get his job back But all this raises questions about just how thoroughly vetted some of these staffers are. And then there are other relatively junior engineers' names that are popping up at multiple agencies, creating a lot of confusion for workers and frankly alarm. Well I understand that legal challenges to DOJ are coming really quickly now. How might that affect the overall work of this team you think?

29:03 Yeah, also I mean the first lawsuit about Doge was filed just minutes after President Trump was sworn in. This week we've had unions representing government workers suing Treasury over concerns about that those staffers accessing that payment system I talk about. A judge temporarily limited access to people inside Treasury so not Musk and his team at the White House On Friday, the University of California student government sued to stop Doge from gaining access to data on student loan borrowers. These lawsuits could constrain the scope of Doge's work but you know they move slowly in a legal system Meanwhile government workers were speaking too say Doge is very quickly moving ahead with this work Alright let's just parse some things out here First of all this racist comment Now if I understand correctly The guy who made the racist comment is Akash Boba

29:52 he's Indian and what he posted somewhere in his past probably when he was 15, yes this is classic. Was I'm not gonna marry outside of my race! This by the way that's Indians Bill, yep. That's and you know it's also Jews yes it's also Catholics Yes! It's also lots of people that have this feeling especially old-timers Moe! Moe! Moe! Moe facts! And you know so but that is now oh he got fired for racist comments and you notice they don't really expound on him or expand on what he actually tweeted and when he tweeted it

30:33 So, and there's all kinds of interesting take-downs. I love the one from Krebs on security. Oh Krebs on security! They really dug in deep these guys. He founded Tesla dot sexy LLC oh no horrible horrible horrible it's all so bad you know like I'm kind of holding back because it does have clips of Kara Swisher but Aaron Burnett, you know this the true breaking news came from Wired and I think it's is it Katie Drummond? Is she let me see. She the wired lady

31:11 I think she's the wired lady. Yeah, so she is the executive vice president editor-in-chief of all things Wired and Wired is just doing such excellent reporting! So let's get a little background... Breaking news! A 25 year old aide at Elon Musk's department of government efficiency resigning tonight over links to social media posts advocating racism and eugenics this is according to The Wall Street Journal Again Advocating racism and eugenics, John. Eugenics! Oh so in other words I want to marry within my own caste? Yes that's... Is a form of eugenics That's eugenics exactly I mean it boggles the mind but it's Aaron Burnett what do you expect? Advocating racism and eugenics this is according to The Wall Street Journal Hold on a second again they have this material they should they shouldn't they don't have to read it they can put it on the screen oh never do why would we do that

32:06 Yeah, that's not... No. You might think you show how misleading you are. People might get a clue! According to the Wall Street Journal who says that the aide resigned after being confronted with The Post Now, that former now-former Doji was one of the people at the center of a legal dispute over accessing that sensitive, crucial and massive Treasury Department payment system. And it comes as one of our next guests has uncovered even more details about another of Musk's young deputies out front now, Kara Swisher tech journalist podcast host who has covered Elon Musk extensively Okay, so let's listen to Katie Drummond. We'll skip the Swisher stuff because it's just

CHAPTER 07 / 35 Discussion

Wired Magazine Investigation, Russian Domain Name Allegations

Wired Editor-in-Chief Katie Drummond detailed an investigation into a DOGE staffer's background, citing the registration of ".ru" domain names and the use of Telegram as "red flags." The report also alleged the staffer had links to firms hiring "black hat" hackers. Critics argue these connections are common in the tech industry and do not constitute proof of being a Russian asset.

wired· katie drummond· doge· .ru domains· telegram· cybersecurity

32:53 her hating on everybody, like her book. Like everything she does. 19 year olds are sent to deserts to go fight on your behalf. With a gun, with a gun! They're catching hot lead in the desert but now it's oh 19-year old! Someone who has passed associations that you have looked into such that they are at 19 would call into question passing a background check of course that hasn't happened in these cases but uh would normally happen in in a case like this one would hope yes so this is a nineteen year old high school graduate One would hope

33:37 who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online so that would be one way that we could refer to him. Why unfortunate? Why is it unfortunate? It's a great nickname! That's actually interesting, that's a good catch. Is it unfortunate because you are forced to say big balls on CNN? Which he apparently enjoyed doing who has used the unfortunate nickname Big Balls online, so that would be one way we could refer to him. Well, refer to him by his name then maybe! You could refer to him in many different ways—no because you like saying big balls. Say it, say it, big balls. He is now working at Musk's behest inside Doge and we looked into his background and

34:21 You know, several notable things Aaron. One of which is that this individual has founded multiple companies including one with another unfortunate name... Unfortunate name? Tesla dot sexy LLC Oh no! Why is that unfortunate? Because she has to mention Tesla, I guess? And she doesn't want to. I don't know it's a mystery. Which he established in 2021 He would have been around 16 years old Now this LLC controls dozens of web domains Hold on a second So this is what i like now She goes from a name tesla dot sexy llc A screen name To acting as if there's an actual LLC Like a limited liability corporation

35:08 that has registered domain names. I mean, as far as i can tell there is no Tesla dot sexy LLC but now she makes it sound like he's got a corporation. Established in 2021 He would have been around 16 years old Now this LLC controls dozens of web domains A handful of which are registered to Russia Okay stop They're not registered to Russia He registers some .ru domain names That's not registered to Russia This is the lady who has done this excellent technology reporting, just fabulous work. It controls dozens of web domains a handful of which are registered to Russia now that in and of itself is not necessarily... No it's correct? Is bull? Illegal but everyone we spoke to said that that is exactly the kind of thing those kinds of foreign connections Oh my god Foreign connection! I can register .ru domain

36:07 Am I then a Russian asset? Do i have unfortunate foreign connections? Yes, yes you are. That would raise red flags on a background check now he also worked at a network... No it wouldn't! Red flag red flag you registered a domain name oh no I have bigmike2024.com I think I should go to jail that would raise red flags on a background check Now he also worked at a network monitoring firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers, essentially criminals. And lastly... Go ahead go ahead. That's not true! Essentially criminals! Unless they committed a crime and were found guilty they're not criminals You John C. Dvorak you're a podcaster you are essentially a criminal

36:57 That's that's yeah, I like to see them say that about me and find him. I got liable lawyers. I know how to do this Yeah, that's bullcrap firm that is known for hiring reformed black hat hackers essentially criminals And lastly, we uncovered Telegram messages that we've linked to this individual in which that Telegram user is soliciting a cyber attack for hire. So actually looking for someone to perform a cyber attack at their behest. And Telegram of course is heavily used in Russia. I mean it's just a definitional social media platform. Oh jeez! Of course. It's heavily used in Ukraine actually, to be quite specific about it because you've done that reporting as well?

37:39 So this is the kind of unhinged non-reporting that is being lauded by George. I'm not going to play any more cares we should but believe me she goes on now Katie you're just knocking out of the park, this is so great wired it's so relevant. I had a conversation with a friend of mine who was a famous publisher And he mocked me for even suggesting that Wired was even relevant on any level. in the entire world's dimensions. So it's like... When did you say this? It must have been a while ago that you said that, I can't believe you would have said that! Well, I was defending a writer who worked there and it was a long story but The point is these guys are losers Now let's get back to clip four Oh sorry didn't know you had another clip I thought oh my apologies

CHAPTER 08 / 35 Discussion

Treasury Department Reconciliation Failure, Data Republican Website

Antonio Gracias revealed on the All In podcast that the U.S. Treasury Department lacks a modern reconciliation process, meaning payments are often made without verifying if services were rendered. DOGE staffers reportedly "sucked down" the entire 2023-2024 Treasury database before being blocked by court orders. This data is now being analyzed and published on sites like DataRepublican.com to expose government spending patterns.

treasury department· antonio gracias· all in podcast· data republican· reconciliation· doge

38:32 No, that's okay. It did not break the stream of consciousness. Okay was fine I got then it from there. I got three more from that go on a different direction Well says we're talking about doge But I want to stick with those because I have something to talk about Joe's but what is what is clip for I see one two three I see those takedown one take down. Oh you did the take-down clips? Oh, i'm sorry yes No You're somewhere else you're somewhere else I'm glad you did that those are the takedown trips clips no uh usaif what distraught clips What is usaif usaid miss the typo can I know can I lead you into that

39:13 I would hope you would. Okay, because it's important to understand that the NOA Agenda Show very early on made friends because we are friends and we're genuine with all systems administrators and it really came to a crescendo during... His name Ben. Yes! That's where he comes from. During the IRS hearings where the IRS were going after nonprofits and then I think was Shay Fitz who said So where'd you learn about this? I don't know some guy in the IT department who'd been his name was Ben some dude named Ben and now every sysadmin

39:51 addresses themselves in Noah's generation, addresses themself as dude named Ben or dudette named Bernadette. And dude name Mohammed! As long as it is a dude and we have always respected systems administrators because we know that they really make the world... They'll save us Yes, we have always said when it all comes down to it It's not going to be the hams, its going to be the dudes named Ben so We have a lot of people who reach out and I learned a couple things that were quite interesting. And, I wasn't really ready to confirm it until I heard...and this is quite amazing...I heard Antonio Gracias...no, yeah, Gracias is his name and he works with Elon and I think he was part of Doge

40:46 or is part of Doge, and he can... And I'll play this clip first. There's a little gotcha in here as he's talking about what they discovered inside the federal... Inside the financial... What's that? The second... What is the term I'm looking for? The Treasury. Inside the treasury systems, what they discovered that the real problem is with these systems and this is from the All In podcast with Jason Calacanis and it's a little bit in here which is just... That confirmed it for me then I'll tell you what I've understood about DOGE. The way the government works, department just basically asks for money from Treasury and they send out

41:31 We all run businesses. There's a reconciliation process, you have a contract, you issue a PO against it something comes in, you check that it came and services is rendered and then you issue payable then some month later you pay it right? That doesn't happen to the US government. Right! There is that process is broken they used to happen It's broken now And so literally money flowing out I used to ask myself this question Why are the numbers always revised? Why are they always wrong? How can the government know how much money is spent, just hit the button in a computer and figure it out. Problem is that button doesn't exist. We spent time early on I was at Mar-a-Lago with Elon trying to track through like how does the money actually flow? No one could tell us how it actually flows where is it going out people didn't know So he's saying that there's no reconciliation process and That would be...I'll give you an example Tina comes in and she says hey I'm looking up the credit card receipt here

42:23 And something was paid for on my card for some hoodie, but I didn't order it. And I say oh no! I ordered that here's the hoodie Yeah, Mimi does the same thing. Reconcile is because something was under her... If you're married this happens, this reconciliation is a common thing. Very common and it was because the account was in her name and that's why the hoodie was charged to her card so that's reconciliation So this does not exist within the Treasury Department They get a purchase order they pay it but they pay without saying hey was the work done? Was the product delivered did you get it That does not exists

43:02 Or is the person even alive? Now what he said there, if you listen carefully. He said when we were a while back looking at this at Mar-a-Lago now this is what I've heard. I've heard that these four teenagers these youngsters these racist eugenicist people were in the Treasury Department at midnight on January 21st And they sucked down the entire database, whether it runs on COBOL or not. That's right! I think for 2023 and 2024 and then they exited the building They have had this information

43:43 All the information, the Treasury Department is the government's bank account. It's one account and it goes into the Federal Reserve System and payments are made. And they have that's why you see Data Republican all these different websites popping up They have had this for weeks! They're not in there anymore This is at this point a troll exercise Who are we gonna mess with next as they just go through everything slowly like okay, there's this payment. There's that payment Oh all these things are going They the judge who blocked them who cares they were in they were out and yes This is this is another thing JC talked about and you should mention that data Republican thing again Data Republican comm

44:28 Yes, people should look at that and there's a lot of information. And he mentioned that at least one of these groups that are plowing through this data have found out that Chelsea Clinton has gotten tens of millions of dollars from the government. Well, that's a little disingenuous because they added her name to the Hillary and Bill Clinton Foundation. They added her name So, you know all the payments that went to the Clinton Foundation is now the Chelsea Clinton Hillary Clinton Bill Clinton Okay. Well I'll go with it. I have no evidence in contract. I looked at it when you said take a look at it. I looked at

45:05 I'll just play this second clip of Antonio Garcia's because he explains when this happened and how long this non-reconciliation, i.e., the government is just paying whatever they're...the Treasury is paying whatever they're told to pay, how long it has been going on? It was changed in the 70s, 1973. The Nixon administration at 71, let me go back, came off the gold standard which allowed deficits. In 73, at the nadir of the Nixon presidency Congress took away from the presidency, the executive power. This is called apportionments which was the power of executives to stop spending so Nixon was abusing it by stopping and saying he didn't want and so congress took away from him what that means today is The executive as you reaches in It's very hard to just stop payments So what's happening? Is The government put in a process where they would just have an authorized

45:56 executive kind of stamp, a bill that got paid. That broke and I don't know when it broke but it broke sometime so the money flow now department gets a budget authorized to it by Congress. It goes to OMB, OMB allocates the budget that department then just sends a money request to Treasury to pay. It is not reconciled against what happened." So once you have a budget you can just make payments whatever you want! It's not checked Nothing is checked. So this is what we continuously have to keep in mind when they're going into the Department of Education, when they're going into USAID... They had all the information for weeks! They already know everything. It's not like the Doge team is being protected with armed guards while they're tinkering away and trying to stop payments. They're not even in there! That's why- The guy resigned he's already done I'm back in India whatever

CHAPTER 09 / 35 Discussion

USAID History, Economic Hitman Theory

A retrospective look at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) connects the organization to the "Economic Hitman" theories of John Perkins. Archival audio from 2009 shows the podcast's long-term tracking of USAID's role in funding pandemic research and international development as a tool for American foreign policy. The agency is characterized as an independent entity that often serves corporate interests under the guise of humanitarian aid.

usaid· john perkins· economic hitman· episode 112· foreign aid

46:52 He's having a good time. So now I want to go from there to USAID and introduce it with, because we have been talking about USAID ever since the economic hitman and the economic hit man was a great book... The thematic book for this show early on? Yes written by John Perkins and i'll just give up the quick definition according to the book Economic hitmen are highly paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank, The US Agency for International Development USAID and other foreign aid organizations into the coffers of huge corporations in the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources

47:38 Their tools include fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoff extortion sex and murder. They play a game as old as Empire but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization And I'm going to play the very first time, uh...I went to bingit.io Bingit dot—any podcast can get a bingit.io of their own Talk to Sir Deenonymous it's on the website Umm..I'm going to play the very first time we talked about USAID and that was on episode 112 Sunday, July 12th 2009. Here we go everybody. I should say by the way sincere apologies for the horrible Skype audio that I even allowed to be recorded at the time it's really bad. The synopsis of this grand opportunity is detailed below

48:38 Eligible applicants, others. Okay to be eligible for the cooperative agreement under this RFA an organization must be a US based institution... description the USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive program designed to minimize I know! No, I said USAID This is-I was tricked in the beginning already to say USAID instead of USA ID. The USAID is launching a coordinated comprehensive program designed to minimize the impact newly emergent diseases of animal origin which pose a significant threat to human health and development. The program must be managed by the USAID avian and pandemic influenza unit." 2009 they were already getting ready for pandemics through USAID! Huh?

49:22 USAID will closely work with international host governments, USG and private sector entities to coordinate activities and ensure that U.S.. Who is this USAID? That's Economic Hitman Is that a company, USAID? It's an agency or something I don't know it's a good question as far as I... every time i see it it's the United States here it is USAID dot gov Oh man! US aid from the American people. This is money we're giving away! The US Agency for International Development Yeah, that's what it is. This is the economic hitman that we've talked about in the past That's what this is

50:04 You know what, these are 18 million dollar websites John. This is not just any old site. Remember that? It's unbelievable The US Agency for International Development is an independent agency Independent That provides economic Like I said Development and humanitarian assistance around the world in support of the foreign policy goals of the United States Okay Yeah Economic hitmen There you go Yeah There ya go B So we obviously talked about the economic hitmen earlier than 2009. Yes, but we hadn't put it all together and this is the days of the 18 million dollar websites that we were moaning about yeah Obama was putting together like when we were laughing about it so we have been observing USAID for a long long time and have always... We never really considered that they were you know buying

CHAPTER 10 / 35 Discussion

NPR Scripted Interviews, USAID Employee Administrative Leave

NPR's coverage of USAID employees being placed on administrative leave is criticized for appearing scripted and propagandistic. A specific segment featuring Global Health Correspondent Fatima Tanis is highlighted for a verbal slip regarding "appended" versus "upended" delivery plans for pregnant staffers. The discussion suggests these interviews are part of a coordinated effort to garner sympathy for federal workers affected by the Trump administration's freezes.

npr· fatima tanis· usaid· administrative leave· propaganda· smith-mundt

50:59 Politico pro subscriptions. What a bunch of horse crap that is! No, no they didn't pay us to do stories They subscribe to our Pro service Okay fine So now let's get into USAID John Cena where'd I go? We should mention that Politico is owned by German publishing house Yes by Springer which makes it even worse Yeah does make it worse Okay, I'm ready. All right for what for you at your USAID clips? Oh okay well the clips I have this is the this goes in a different direction than the first ones yeah This is that not more reporting from NPR about how horrible

51:48 What's going on is going on. This is the distraught employees clips. A judge has temporarily stopped Elon Musk and his Doge team from getting access to sensitive Treasury Department records. We begin now with the move to shut down the United States Agency for International Development. The 60-year old agency manages most of America's foreign aid programs, but the Trump administration has paused all foreign assistance

52:31 and put the agency's 13,000 employees on administrative leave. Yesterday a judge stepped in to block that administrative leave order for more than 2,000 of the employees." I can't help it! And this is so old-fashioned you know that the guy... Yeah, you great man, you sound just like Tom Brokaw back in the day. And if you're a global health correspondent... Wait stop! Besides blowing the line there she's the health... This woman he brings on as the Health Correspondent? Yes What does that got to do with the price of bread? Well, I would say since USAID has been funding pandemic research since we started looking at them. Oh there you go! And a lot of other research we will discuss in a moment yeah i think it's pretty relevant.

53:16 NPR Global Health Correspondent, Correspondent Fatima Tanis joins us. Fatima thanks so much for being with us. Thank you Scott. You've been speaking to many USAID employees... Now he's made a new one! USAID ID! Wow this is just so bad. Thank you Scott. You've been speaking to many USAID employees how do they react? Well Scott people are distraught and you know since the inauguration I've been talking to senior officials agency staff both here and overseas And they didn't want to reveal their names because they're not authorized to speak to the press and some were afraid of being targeted by The administration, but they say that effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore They're shocked right there right? There. They are calling it an aide organization and the name is Agency for international developments and as we heard in the

54:10 exact definition in the throwback clip, it is to enhance the American agenda. It's not to provide aid this is this is the psyop that the name is. Yeah when you were caught in it by saying USAID, USAID, USAID or in 2009 by the way we want to mention this was what? Almost 20 years ago. It's a long time, it was long enough yeah. Effectively one of the biggest aid agencies in the world doesn't exist anymore they're shocked at the dizzying speed in which things have unraveled and they say uh... the way that they are being treated by the administration has also been shocking and many people have lost access to their government accounts and emails The ones staffed overseas had been ordered back to the US in 30 days

54:55 And they say they feel completely abandoned by their government. You know, many are in conflict zones. They're concerned about their personal security. They're told to come back but they don't have homes in the U.S., or jobs, or insurance and some are pregnant close to due date so their delivery plans have also been appended. Babies! Oh wait, wait... Their delivery plans have been appended? Do you mean that going to deliver later?! What? Hold on. ...to come back, but they don't have homes in the U.S., or jobs or insurance and some are pregnant close to their due date so their delivery plans have also been appended. Their delivery plans have been appended?! That's kind of odd... Oh no I mean that's where i wanted to stop it there because that's not what she said! What did she say? Up-ENDED. Oh up-ENDED oh okay But here's what I'm thinking here

55:42 She is reading from a script and here's the challenge. Write the word upended, there are two ways of writing it. There is up-ended and upended. One word upended and the spell checker won't say that that's wrong so you write a script and put upendeded and you will say upended She is reading from a script. This is a scripted interview. Oh no! What? Say it's not so! I know, I'm shocked. Good catch. Very shocked. Good catch. You're right. So appended. Appended yes. But she meant up-ended and

56:24 Wow, if you think about there's also the other thing with these people are in places where oh my god. They got to leave their during What this because they're spooks we're talking about here folks I tell you that are in danger You know Just by the virtue of their job and now they all of a sudden have gotten called back, and oh my god everything's been upended. Upended! Yes But okay here we go that so we so what were listening both sides on this by the way I think this is why he botched his read earlier They're both reading from a script. I'm convinced of it. And this is the script provided by the government. And it's provided by whoever, I don't know who this is but somebody wrote it. How about the USAGM?

CHAPTER 11 / 35 Discussion

Federal Judge Blocks USAID Dismantling, Executive Power Dispute

A federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to dismantle USAID, reinstating hundreds of employees and halting the forced return of overseas staff. The legal battle centers on whether an agency created by executive order can be summarily abolished by a successor. Meanwhile, the humanitarian aid industry reports millions in unpaid contracts due to the ongoing foreign aid freeze.

usaid· federal judge· executive order· separation of powers· foreign aid freeze

57:08 The US, United States of America global media which is overseen by the Broadcast Board of Governors who for 2024 had a almost 1 billion dollar budget with over 4,000 media contracts. How about that? Remember this is all happening because of Smith-Mundt Once Smith-Munt was overturned or modernized, meaning we can now propagandize the American people. This is the result this is the result you get scripted NPR Can you get appended? How does yesterday's orders from a federal judge about the agency affect USAID and its workers Oh wait You're right he's...you can even tell he's trying to make the script sound conversational

57:55 Yeah, you know how I mean like you'll pause on a word? I know exactly what you mean. And I think a lot of people do It's hard to explain that from an... When your reading and trying to sound conversational it has this stilted quality that is pretty This is like comparing news interviews with somebody who's really distraught They're having issues they got the microphone stuck in their face and somebody In the same situation in a movie acting Yes Yes, yeah. Bad actors. How does yesterday's orders from a federal judge about the agency affect USAID and its workers?

58:36 So last night, a federal judge issued a temporary pause on the administration's move to put 2200 people on administrative leave. Now those are union foreign service officers who filed the suit. The judge also reinstated 500 people who were already put on leave and he paused the accelerated return of overseas staff that was supposed to happen this weekend. This was all pushed back until next Friday and in the meantime There will be a hearing next week on the legality of the administration's overall moves to dismantle the agency. So, I think this is why President Trump is going to double down today because this agency was created by executive order. Money was appropriated for the work they do but it's still an agency that has been brought into existence by an executive order which can be removed by executive order as far as I'm concerned

59:31 People may not like it, but I think that well all these agencies in fact are under the executive department Yes there you know that branch the executive branch and That means the executive of the executive branch Trump can pretty much do what he wants and everybody like Galloway And these other people moaning and groaning about it. Oh a separation of powers There's no separation of powers when you're the boss at this group In that podcast, Galloway was going on and on like this is only $200 per person in America. You know if he takes 35 billion or 40 billion and he divides it and says it's only 200 dollars per person per year If you ask any American would they want to help people in need for 200 dollars a year? They'd all say yes I'm like well if you have a family of five no Scott No

1:00:23 But for him, in his fifth house yeah sure 200 bucks who cares I bet 258 000 on Kamala winning he doesn't care. These elitist people Elitist. Yes, okay onward. With the administration focusing on USAID? President Trump is accusing the agency of corruption and fraud no evidence has been provided to the public. No evidence! No evidence! The Chinese advisor Elon Musk say that they want to shrink at the federal government and the budget analysts say USAID is an easy target because it works overseas Americans are less aware of what it does and analysts say what's happening here is a playbook for the administration's plans for other agencies

1:01:03 But USAID has typically enjoyed bipartisan support for its projects. And some Republicans I've talked to are saying that there will be cascading consequences from all of this. Andrew Natsios is a former administrator of USAID who served under George W Bush, and he said Americans don't realize how influential USAID was. Its logo for example had the American flag on aid packages distributed all over the world and it said From The American People. Another great sign up. That's what they always show you so the pallets going on to the c-130 Here's your 40 billion at work people from the American people we love you We love you, we love you were good people were good people Yeah, that's all we are yeah when when we look at it? We think we're good people of course. I thought you do we're good people yes

1:01:56 Let's go to finish this distraught series on, this scripted piece on NPR which I'll complain about later. Here we go... Now one of the agency's key functions was helping with disease control you'll remember the Ebola outbreak in 2014 so USAID worked to contain that and they also supported- They brought the guy home he got out of the plane in Dallas it was live on TV like it was OJ He hops off the plane like walks right into the terminal and we were all thinking oh this guy's bleeding out of his butthole. This is horrible Do you remember that? Oh, yeah No well We had a nurse who jumped on her bike and said screw you guys and took off to contain that And they also supported programs curbing migration in Latin American countries for example Which is one of at this administration's key goal work where does this leave many of the aid groups who worked with USAID

1:02:54 You know Scott the entire humanitarian aid industry is totally shaken by this. The industry is shaken! The industry partners with NGOs, contractors to do the work that Congress allocated money for and since the foreign aid freeze no one's been getting paid by the US not even for work that they already did back in December and January before all of this so their owed millions of dollars now this has put everyone in a really bad spot. Thousands of people have lost their jobs in the past couple of weeks and many of these companies, including some of the big aid groups don't know if they will survive if the US doesn't fulfill its contractual duties so it's really not looking good for for aid groups right now and and for the people around the world who depended on their help

CHAPTER 12 / 35 Discussion

PBS NewsHour Analysis, NPR Underwriting Violations

Jonathan Capehart and Matthew Continetti discussed the "hollowing out" of the administrative state on PBS NewsHour, with critics noting a lack of counterpoint in the analysis. Separately, NPR is accused of violating FCC rules regarding "calls to action" in underwriting spots for Capital One. The back-to-back airing of promotional messages on digital streams is cited as evidence of NPR's shift toward traditional commercial advertising.

pbs newshour· jonathan capehart· matthew continetti· npr· capital one· fcc

1:03:37 It's not looking good people. This is a propagandistic piece if I've ever heard one Oh, no was kind of the theme of it oh No It's bullcrap and this is NPR do you have more on USAID because I want to say about this will take me to my little sidetrack but I can play this And I think then you can go off on your okay, because I have to play this clip. This is K part Your buddy your buddy K part yes the prissy gay scold It's only way to describe a prissy gay scolds it's a PSC everybody a PGS PGC so I want to play this and I want to play two short clips which are

1:04:25 Which is my complaint of the day, but let's play this. This is Caper they brought a new guy in because Brooks was on I don't know what Brooks is doing But they brought some new guy in from American Enterprise Institute who I thought would maybe be a counterpoint But no, no. No, no, no! From Elon Musk gaining unprecedented access to sensitive government information... ...to Democrats trying to build what they call a bigger and better party We turn tonight to the analysis of Capehart and Continetti That's Washington Post associate editor Jonathan Capehart and Matthew Continetti with the American Enterprise Institute. David Brooks is away this evening, it's good to see you both. Good to see you. So Donald Trump and his allies are making quick progress toward their stated goal of the deconstruction of the administrative state. We've got takeovers in the hollowing out of major government agencies offering severance agreements to government workers causing federal grants and loans which of course is now tied up in the courts

1:05:22 Jonathan, are the shockwaves being felt across the government signs of a super committed new administration shaking up the status quo? Or are we witnessing the full assault on the limits of executive power. Both Jeff both remember Donald Trump campaign he told us this is what he was going to do project 2025 is all about doing what is happening right now. And so they are trying to deconstruct this, I think it's Steve Bannon who said the administrative state and they are as I said last week President Trump and Elon Musk in particular are taking a wrecking ball to the federal government by sewing sure chaos and confusion and fear

1:06:12 But he's following through on what he promised to do. How do you see it, man? I think Jonathan is right! Oh boy... You spent hours and it's appreciated. It's appreciated So the crap that they don't have any counterpoints on this PBS thing which brings me to two short clips I want to play This is, because this is a complaint of mine. It was brought up in a previous show about how NPR is doing literally doing that that was PBS but same thing and PR's doing advertising I want to play two short clips which are call-to-action advertise tides mints that played back to back these played one played and then the other plate it's unbelievable this is the NPR advert

1:07:03 CAP1. This message comes from Capital One Banking with Capital One helps you keep more money in your wallet with no fees or minimums on checking accounts What's in your wallet? Terms apply see capitalone.com slash bank for details Capital one N a member FDIC now Was this on the radio or was this is podcast This was on the ray, this was on the radio stream Okay So it was a radio station Yeah, I think this was KQED. But what's interesting is because whoever put the stream together The next thing on the stream was this ad, which is another ad for Capital One right after the first ad. This message comes from Capital One with the Venture X card. Earn unlimited double miles on everything you buy plus get premium benefits at a collection of hotels when booking through Capital One Travel What's in your wallet? Terms apply details at capitalone dot com From a legal standpoint

1:08:05 The FCC and a lot of the certainly the music rights organizations have deemed an audio stream to be equal to that of an over-the-air radio signal. And I'm bringing that up in regards to if you play a record on your radio station, you have a stream we don't have to pay double and so it's considered to be the radio Meaning that under the same rules, that they cannot do a call to action. This would be a violation That's this is my I agree with you 100 hundred something But it will say this this was back-to-back Yeah, that's just bad programming these people should not be getting government funding where they won't be and that's all going to end Okay

CHAPTER 13 / 35 Discussion

USAID Ideological Spending, Transgender Projects Overseas

The Trump administration released a list of USAID expenditures deemed "insane," including funding for a transgender opera in Colombia and DEI musicals in Ireland. Analysis suggests these programs are not merely ideological but are used as tools of psychological warfare to mobilize fringe groups and create opposition movements in foreign countries. This strategy is compared to the domestic use of "Trans Lives Matter" and DEI initiatives.

usaid· dei· transgender opera· colombia· serbia· psychological operations

1:08:54 So in the season of reveal, I'm trying to figure out what is it? You can't deny it anymore. I need a jingle people I need a season of revealed jingle season of reveal so leave-it-to-beaver comes out and she's talking to the press and She and obviously the president is aware of what she's communicating to the world And when it comes to shutting down USAID, here's her laundry list of... You played a little bit of those in the NPR coverage. Here is her laundry list of some other things that USAID was funding. Through USAID over the past several years these are some of the insane priorities that organization has been spending money on 1.5 million dollars to advance DEI in Serbia's workplaces 70 thousand for production at the DEI musical and Ireland

1:09:47 47,000 for a transgender opera in Colombia. 32,000 for a transgender comic book in Peru I don't know about you but as an American taxpayer I don't want my dollars going towards this crap and I know the American people do not either And that's exactly what Elon Musk has been tasked by President Trump to do So I'm thinking, wait a minute. What is trying? What are they trying to communicate here? Are they trying to communicate and part of the psyop they're putting on the American people or marketing call it whatever you want It's the same thing is let's all get outraged by these ideological things Yeah And then it starts to dawn on me These are not ideological and it hit me

1:10:29 I'll just play a little bit of this report and i'll explain why, i'll stop it and i'll explain why. This is a protest against in Germany against the AFD. Shame on you Mr Merz that's the message these protesters have for Friedrich Mertz the man who leads the main CDU party and he could be germany's next leader more than 200,000 people took to the street protesting against both the extreme right and what they view as Merz's attempts to gain their support. With two weeks to go before the general election voters are not giving up They don't want the anti-immigrant extreme right alternative for Germany or AFD party in government Now notice that the words have changed we've gone from far right to extreme right

1:11:11 There are hundreds of thousands of people protesting from what I understand from my German friends. They all hate the immigrant situation They all love the fact that this guy who you know, he said well I'll reach out a little bit to AFD and at least we'll approve this Reduction of immigrant inflow but yet there are hundreds of thousands of people protesting It's this protester and we don't have video but I'll tell you what this protestor was This is a dude in a blonde wig with blue eye shadow. Alternative for Germany or AFD party in government? I am really worried about things and I simply want to do something to stand up for colorful coexistence that people can live together, be happy with each other and we don't continue to be negative against minorities but instead appreciate there is a diverse society and that we can also benefit from it. So he's saying

1:12:05 Hey, I don't understand why we just can't all get along. People are different. We need diversity." He's talking about himself because he's a freak show and he's standing there in his blue...I mean it's a huge dude in a blonde curly wig kind of cute wig actually and with blue eyeshadow. And like hold on a second what USAID is doing if you listen to the countries Colombia You know, all these different places. Uganda? This is a tool that USAID has used to garner support. When you talk about children, because what is the whole LGBTQ thing about? The T is what was added on. The T is about transgender and we've somehow... I'll get to America in a moment because this has been done to our own people. The T part is what we've told everybody if you don't transition these children then they're going to kill themselves. Children are very powerful tool in psychological warfare

1:13:08 So when you're told that you have to let children transition People are compassionate. The same goes for America, we're compassionate people We don't want children to kill themselves We've been told through research that this is you know how but we really have to let these these kids transition It's gotten so good the communication That you know people are harming their kids because they think that their kids are trans They've been using this overseas to garner groups, multiple groups who are on the edge. They bought into the trans Maoism and the transgender meme they've added Q on there so now if you're queer

1:13:55 Like, I just don't fit in. I don't know what I really am where I am but hey wait a minute there's this group of people over here who are compassionate they care about the trans children they don't want them to disappear so then you can garner whole bunch of fringe groups You can get the trans, the queer, the questioning, the misfits People with other mental disorders you can get the anarchists and that way you can get 100 thousand people to protest It used to be Black Lives Matter And that worked quite well. We had one last hurrah with Black Lives Matters and it turned out that was so manufactured, everyone saw through it we then saw in Los Angeles literally the culmination of Black Lives Matters and all of a sudden the stage switch there was the rainbow flag and it was Trans Lives Matters

CHAPTER 14 / 35 Discussion

Transgender Animal Testing, USAID Research Grants

USAID reportedly spent $241 million on research involving gender transitions in mice, rats, and monkeys. The studies examined the effects of hormone therapies and the impact of vaccines on transitioned animals, including a specific grant to study drug overdoses in testosterone-treated female rats. Critics argue this research was intended to provide a scientific veneer for promoting transgenderism globally.

usaid· transgender research· animal testing· hormone therapy· smith-mundt

1:14:42 So they built in this DEI thing. By the way, USAID was doing a lot of exploration on just how far they could take this trans issue as we have this testimony from Goodman I think is... Well yeah? I do have one interjection This to me, what you're doing and I agree with this. The USAID is somehow behind all this. This accounts for the fact because I question people all the time we have a lot of international listeners and yes drag queen story hour is all around the globe everywhere why? Because they felt they were funded

1:15:27 So you get a transgender dance party, hey everybody wants to go dance with drag queens that's fun we'll have a good time and you multiply and again it all comes down to compassion and empathy of the human spirit but they're all have been used become part of, you know it's easy to throw Palestine in. Oh there's another group that is being oppressed! Well just so you can garner all the support and they've been using it economic hitman style around the world and in our own country and that's where they made their mistake Just a quick side thing here USAID spent 241 million dollars on testing out trans

1:16:09 transitioning on mice. Can you describe what exactly the American people's taxpayer dollars were spent on regarding transgender animal testing? Yeah, in a lot of these cases they're involved mice rats monkeys who are being surgically mutilated and subjected to hormone therapies to mimic female-to-male or male-to-female gender transitions. Gender affirming hormone therapies And then looking at the biological, psychological and physiological effects of the gender transitions. Looking at the effects of taking vaccines after you've

1:16:51 transition these animals from male to female or female to male, looking at the size of their genitals changing after you've put them on estrogen or testosterone therapies to transition them. And in the case that the chairwoman gave there was a 1.1 million dollar grant to give female lab rats testosterone transgender male humans and then overdose them with this party drug to see if animals who are taking test female animals taking testosterone were more likely to overdose on the sex party drug than animals who are not taking testosterone so believe me when you're putting a quarter of a billion dollars into this type of research, you're doing it for reason. You want to organize trans dance parties

1:17:41 You're handing out party drugs. Make sure you don't kill them, we need them to protest the next day." The problem is where they went wrong is DEI and DEI diversity equity inclusion was completely targeted at a combination of black and trans in America, but DEI could be used for any kind of ethnic group around the world. And what happened is the financial community jumped in and said yeah you know we're not we're going to make you non-investable unless uh unless you have DEI and you have all of the...uh..and you're doing the right way with your social governance score etc

1:18:19 And it went too far. All the grifters came in, everybody started making millions of dollars writing books Robert DeAngelo and they pushed it so far that a certain part at certain point in America and I think everywhere in the world people went hold on a second now I'm a white guy I'm a white woman I'm straight, i'm being discriminated against. And that's they pushed it too far and this is what this is why your observation of the democrat party going all in they're gonna die on the trans hill because that's all they know! They have no alternative strategy their strategy was always mobilize people because we're compassionate about the T in LGBTQ

1:19:01 And if you're Q, you can just jump on board. Anybody can be Q! This is the only strategy they had and we have been doing this around the world and I think that's why Trump is trying to communicate this. at a certain point and apologize to the world for the mess we've made of it after we come to terms in America, how many children we have harmed with this psychological operation made possible by the overturned Smith-Mundt so that American intelligence agencies which includes the spooks USAID could go ahead and propagandize everybody.

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Corporate DEI Retreat, Walmart and Google Policy Changes

Major corporations including Walmart, Google, Disney, and JPMorgan Chase are reportedly backing away from Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) targets in their annual reports. While some companies are making public announcements, others are quietly scrubbing DEI language to avoid political and legal backlash. Political strategists like David Axelrod have warned the Democratic Party that focusing on these issues may be alienating the broader electorate.

dei· walmart· google· disney· chipotle· david axelrod

1:19:40 a disaster that has taken place and it's been going on as far as I can tell since Nixon probably. And finally the spell has been broken and people are saying no, that's why President Trump comes in and says nope, no more dudes in women sports we're getting rid of that, no government funding for mice or children or otherwise and now companies are starting to figure out that this was a bad idea Hey, good morning. So as you know we've been seeing some big companies announcing for months that they're ending or changing their DEI programs They include Walmart Target Amazon and just this week Google told employees that it's ending its hiring targets for underrepresented workers But what I discovered this week is that many more big companies are backing away from the language of DEI without making a big announcement

1:20:37 I went digging into the new annual reports that companies have been publishing for their investors, and I compared them with what they were saying a year ago. And I found that this year at least a dozen big companies have all deleted or softened the language they use to talk about diversity. These companies include GM, Intel, Disney, Pepsi and Chipotle Now, some of these companies wouldn't talk about these changes with me so we don't know for sure why they've done this. We just know that they've stopped talking about DEI in public but some of the companies did give me some clues. So thank God that this is stopped and it's... Okay I have to stop you for a second? Yeah It hasn't stopped

1:21:21 Well, no it hasn't stopped. It's paused? It is paused yes. It's paused and I have to look at this... take what you said. I think everything he said is great Thank You but the meta part of it I have to... This is where I'll come in with this Do you think it's possible that the DEA, when you say they overdid it. You think is possible that it wasn't even the same group? That was just a coincidence very possible as I said Wall Street Wall Street grabbed this and like oh This is this I think that they believed it I think the company CEOs The board members the shareholders all said yeah man Like there the children are dying They're committing suicide because because they don't you know

1:22:04 See the thing is I see it as, the problem I have is that I see the trans drag queen story hour and the trans Maoism and all that on one track. And I see the DEI... I see the connection because the DEI would include that but I see the DEIs on a second track and I'm wondering if was the same schemers could have been in different group doing this I thought that would they may be competitive there may be Competitive schemes at work and because of that it destroyed itself This whatever happened the operation. I mean, they should have been throwing 33s everywhere The operation went out in control. I think the operation is I agree with that? I think this was out of control. Uh, I don't know what they can do to salvage

1:22:55 the direction they pushed everybody in. I agree, the Democrat Party's completely screwed itself and you notice that when you hear from Rahm Emanuel and you hear from what's his name? The guy who looks like Wimpy Give Me a Hamburger Guy. You've puzzled me with that one! This is Obama guys, he's the brains behind Obama from Chicago that guy yeah it'll come to me and I'll come to you will it come in me too but he always reminds you a wimpy in the hamburger guy so

1:23:34 The two of them have seen the light on this, but nobody's listening to them. Carville to a lesser extent, but nobody cares what he has to say. Axelrod. Actually yeah, Axelrod yes. Thank you NetNet. Oh no who said it? Manperson had it first all right good for man person so these guys have noticed this and they've talked about it everyone is ignoring him totally ignoring him and they're going on with with the prissy scald, gay scold instead. It's misogyny that causes the election, it's racism that causes the election they will not give in to any other thinking trans is still on track in the Democrat Party. I think that they have not seen it as hopeless, they think well okay it's a pause we can reestablish this just give us some time give us a few minutes to figure this out. Well and so maybe that's the reason that Trump sends Leave It To Beaver out and she's there running down this list

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Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy Lawsuit, Narcissism and Marxism

Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy, a prominent provider of gender-affirming care, faced legal action from a former patient regarding surgical outcomes. The discussion transitions into a psychological analysis of the link between narcissism, Marxism, and the "trans Maoist" agenda. It is argued that social media platforms like TikTok reinforce narcissistic behaviors, making individuals more susceptible to ideological mobilization.

johanna olson-kennedy· detransition· narcissism· marxism· tiktok· personality disorders

1:29:43 Before we leave the clip that you just played, the one thing that's kind of overlooked are the lawsuits which are coming. And I've said this forever which is that these kids who have been mutilated literally, and they get older. And the next thing you know they snap out of it out of the propaganda and then they start suing people. This one doctor got sued a transgender surgeon doctor another doctor approved by the AMA and she was on I have a clip this is called the TS news clip which i've been carrying for awhile

1:30:23 She discusses something here, which is to me like what are you did? Are you just making this stuff up now she was sued by one of her patients for her mutilation This is sorry. I'm just gonna say let me continue she she come but this is before any of that happened and this is this is her logic about about life in general about gender in general hit and it's frightening Puberty is bad enough, but if it's the wrong one? It's really bad. Dr. Johanna Olson-Kennedy is the medical director at the Center for Trans Youth Health and Development at Children's Hospital Los Angeles. These youth that are going through the wrong puberty...it's a very precarious time. That's when I worry about them because there are enormous rates of self harm cutting burning and other kinds of bodily harm that self inflicted but also depression anxiety and suicidality

1:31:20 Wrong puberty. That's a great term! Wrong puberty, how does that even work? Yeah. Oh I don't know you know puberty is one thing but wrong because she's going there they're going to the wrong puberty in other words your boy going to boy puberty or your girl becoming a woman I had an email conversation with one of our psychologists. She's the one that actually, early on in the trans discussion showed me how the American Association for Pediatrics and how you can't... If a child is self-harming, you're a boy! That's pretty much their answer to everything. And she gave me a one paragraph on narcissism and Marxism

1:32:08 which I just like to read. It's just a number of shows ago you and John talked about narcissism and Marxism, but i've been thinking about this for weeks and I can share the following so she's a professional in the field. Marxism is rooted in resentment I've mentioned to you before, to me that I help people release resentments. That's part of her therapy The interesting thing about my process is that it requests the client to look at their part and acknowledge it It says however one time I was in a session and got to this step but the client could not do it! It occurred to me at that moment that my client might be a narcissist The thing is, I never detected she could have had a personality disorder. And this falls in line with what chameleons Marxists can be In the end narcissists are not capable of processing resentments because it's what roots them in all their justification without having to acknowledge who they are and the part they play just like Marxists and this is what you get on your TikTok clips Narcissism is fed

1:33:10 And I don't know if you can create it. According to her, there's no real cure for narcissistic personality disorder just like there is no real cure for borderline personality disorder she says but it can certainly be triggered if a narcissist under deep down they're a narcissist trauma or whatever they've had in their lives, going on TikTok putting a camera on yourself all day enforces and reinforces that narcissistic behavior and makes these people completely ready to be picked up by the trans Maoist agenda. IE the Democrat Party in America. Interesting Yeah yeah this is...I mean Season of Reveal! Oh brother

CHAPTER 18 / 35 Discussion

Project Bus Satire, USAID Job Loss Parody

A viral satirical video features a man claiming to have lost his job at "Project Bus," a fictional USAID-funded study investigating if "the wheels on the bus go round and round." The parody mocks the distraught reactions of federal employees following Elon Musk's budget cuts. The video highlights the perceived absurdity of some government-funded research projects.

project bus· satire· usaid· elon musk· tiktok

1:34:05 But we're getting more of this sort of, I don't know what to call it a narcissist but here's the talk clip. There you go! Which is the kind of stuff that we are starting to see more and more which is I don't know even there's got to be a term it's like a form of satire but is this modern? I saw this. I thought it was very modern. I had to cut this way down so there are some edits that are obvious and there's some edits that you won't catch, but then... But I had to take the music out of it. Here we go yeah The Bus Yeah The Bus It's been what? It's been like two weeks? Two weeks! I'm done You want talk about regretting your vote in two weeks

1:34:44 I went from the highest high to being unemployed. Lost my job last night, got a phone call The repercussions of what Elon Musk are doing with the USAID has real percussions for real people For the last seven years i have been a shift lead on Project Bus where we studied to find out if the wheels on the bus went round around or not and all of sudden Elon who's not even elected Gets in and I'm not have a job. What do I tell my family? What do I tell my kids this isn't a joke This USAID stuff is not a joke It's affecting real people and the worst part is what? What if we've never figure out but if they never figure out it's in fact that wheels on the bus to go round-and-round

1:35:30 The best part of that video was his daughter in the background trying not to laugh. Yeah, she's just back there it was very funny It was very very good I liked it a lot Oh man There is one other thing about President Trump that uh...I am very pleased about A lotta people will be happy Not only do we have MAGA We have MEGA Make Europe Great Again oh by the way I should probably play my quick mega clip here where is it here we go, mega yes this is the BBC. As we record this podcast leading figures from far-right parties in Europe are gathering in Spain under the banner make Europe great again inspired by Donald Trump's MAGA slogan The Patriots for Europe group a gathering for two days in Madrid to map out their future strategy

CHAPTER 19 / 35 Discussion

Make Europe Great Again, South Africa Aid Freeze

Right-wing leaders in Europe, including Viktor Orban and Marine Le Pen, gathered in Spain under the "Make Europe Great Again" (MEGA) banner. Simultaneously, President Trump signed an executive order halting aid to South Africa, citing human rights violations against the white minority. The move, dubbed "MANGA" (Make Africa News Great Again) by the hosts, signals a shift in U.S. diplomatic priorities toward traditional allies and specific human rights concerns.

mega· viktor orban· marine le pen· south africa· manga· human rights

1:36:20 The Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and Francis Marine Le Pen are among those expected to attend. Including Geert Wilders, there's quite a lot going on there people are rising up there as well but you know they are extreme right now they're not far-right they've moved too extreme right in all their reporting meanwhile we still have MAGA We have MEGA And we have MANGA Have you heard of manga? No not yet Make Africa news great again US President Donald Trump followed through on his promise to punish South Africa by signing in an executive order Stopping all aid to the country over what he called a human rights violation against a white minority group many Johannesburg said on Saturday they disagreed with Trump's move is no such thing that I've read or experienced or seen on our social media in South Africa that

1:37:14 really has a conversation around white people being mistreated in this country. He should have actually come from the Americas to South Africa to see what was happening for himself and not just take the word of an Elon Musk who hasn't lived in this country for the longest time, who doesn't even relate to South Africans The Trump administration said the South African government was allowing violent attacks against Afrikaner farming communities. Land distribution in South Africa has been a complicated and highly emotive issue, with racial connotations for more than 30 years since the end of the apartheid system of white minority rule in 1994. Now granted I am saying manga make africa news great again in the hopes that we'll have some western reporting so we can actually understand what the heck they're saying

1:38:04 That's not gonna happen. I'm hoping, I'm really hoping... I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I'm hoping Well the uh there's our Secretary of State refused to go to South Africa recently and South Africa is a target. I think South Africa is the target, I think the UK is the target Oh yeah! And that's like the UK you know they went the other way and they tried the whole trans thing And it backfired so bad because the people wouldn't rally around immigration and say, hey we just want people to be diverse in our country. So instead they went straight to if you hurt someone's feelings on social media you're going to jail!

CHAPTER 20 / 35 Discussion

Elizabeth Warren on Bird Flu, CDC Website Changes

Senator Elizabeth Warren linked government infrastructure to food safety, claiming federal oversight prevents eggs from "killing us" amid bird flu concerns. Meanwhile, the CDC website has reportedly updated its search results; a query for "abortion" now prompts a suggestion for "adoption." These changes are seen as early indicators of the new administration's influence on federal health agencies.

elizabeth warren· bird flu· cdc· abortion· adoption· egg prices

1:38:52 Yeah, which is the jump was unbelievable. They had to make it there I mean they were out of option didn't have to do anything well Okay But they were out of options so just out of options these people are insane They're insane. I tell you they're insane So I have a here's a clip There's a little gotcha in here. This is the Elizabeth Warren clip you may have seen I probably haven't Where is she? Is it under Warren yes, yep okay warn we built a government to work for all of us Yes, we're just all better off if in fact the Bird flu gets under control yeah and that our eggs won't kill us We are

1:39:37 We're all better off. Thank God our eggs, thank the government! Our eggs won't kill us. She throws that in and she talks about bird flu and then we know that the price of eggs has skyrocketed because of the bird flu or the culling of the egg chain... I think have a report on that too but They kind of, she makes the association of the eggs won't kill us? They won't kill us. When did that even show up in the conversation?! Why is she saying it? She's on Joy Reid, by the way. Of course she is of course you can play the rest of her not I want to hear it We are all better off we're better off when make these investments infrastructure We make this investment in our payment system so people don't get cheated That's how we keep the economy going and look

1:40:34 Bless everybody who gets out there and makes a fortune. Bless everybody who gets up everyday and goes to work, but understand the underpinnings of all that are something we all invested in and now we've got Donald Trump and his co-president Elon Musk and they're just running a wrecking ball through it. And it's not like its an abstract problem, It is really and truly kid who needs an aid to be able to sit in class so that they can get an education taking that aid away and maybe take away that whole classroom. She is she's the worst well there is a setup underway, the set up for the bird flu and this is kind of the reverse psychology you just got to keep telling people

1:41:30 There's no evidence of human to human transmission. Human-to-human transmission has not yet happened, there is no human-to-human transmission if it jumps but it hasn't happened yet so don't worry about it this is New York City It's an all out effort to prevent an epidemic dozens of live poultry markets in and around New York City are on notice tonight to sell off or slaughter all their poultry within 24 hours then shut down and disinfect for five days. There is no immediate public health threat, we have been vigilant and will remain vigilant so New Yorkers can go about their lives with peace of mind It all comes as the number of dead birds is rising a dozen geese dead in Westchester several public parks are now closed after wild birds were found dead as far north as Boston

1:42:21 Bird flu has been detected in seven live markets here in New York and on Long Island hundreds of thousands of ducks were euthanized when the disease was detected there. 67 people have been infected in the US all with mild symptoms, all had direct contact with sick animals City health officials say that's crucial. The current risk to New Yorkers of bird flu remains low, we have not seen avian influenza develop the ability to transmit between people but a strain of the virus has been detected in livestock in Nevada experts say it is important to be vigilant. A mutation could occur that allows it either

1:43:02 virulent, that means causing more severe disease or causing sustained human-to-human transmission which again I reiterate is not the case right now. Authorities say there's zero risk from eating poultry or eggs so long as they're cooked three ducks died from the disease at the Queen Zoo and tests are pending tonight on a dozen dead birds here at the Bronx Zoo but to be clear there has been no known human-to-human transmission of avian flu Oh, they are. Great clip! PSYOP clip Yes now the CDC is not allowed this is very smart by the president the CDC is not allowed to publish any material he has some kind of moratorium I'm not sure exactly how that works but I did learn this morning

1:43:49 that something is changing within the CDC. If you go to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, cdc.gov and you type in abortion, the first thing that pops up is also try adoption. That is very new! They've never had that. So things are changing, you know... It's Doge! It's Doge! Doge is everywhere because Doge is changing everything!" Well I think that's why he has to go so fast. Well yes, you have to be a wrecking ball absolutely and the wrecking ball analogy is being used a lot we have it just so far in this show today just by accident two

1:44:27 two clips mention the wrecking ball. Yep, well that's no accident obviously. It is no accident now I should probably mention that there are a lot of people on the other who are extreme right who are very very worried about what is happening and one of them who keeps popping up on my radar because people send it to me is Katherine Austin Fitz you've probably seen a clip of her Kind of older lady, blonde hair. She lives in Holland now because she feared for her life and so she was much safer there obviously. And so she publishes the Solari report I'm sure we've played clips of her? I don't recall any of this. Right well she's around because she is very anti-blockchain

CHAPTER 21 / 35 Discussion

Solari Report, Digital Control Grid Warnings

Catherine Austin Fitz's Solari Report warns that the Trump administration is rapidly implementing a "digital control grid." The report alleges that initiatives like DOGE, Stargate data centers, and the promotion of Bitcoin are precursors to a social credit system and the Internet of Bodies. While some of these claims are viewed as alarmist, they reflect deep skepticism among certain "extreme right" factions regarding the new administration's tech policies.

catherine austin fitz· solari report· digital id· stargate· bitcoin· social credit system

1:43:49 that something is changing within the CDC. If you go to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, cdc.gov and you type in abortion, the first thing that pops up is also try adoption. That is very new! They've never had that. So things are changing, you know... It's Doge! It's Doge! Doge is everywhere because Doge is changing everything!" Well I think that's why he has to go so fast. Well yes, you have to be a wrecking ball absolutely and the wrecking ball analogy is being used a lot we have it just so far in this show today just by accident two

1:44:27 two clips mention the wrecking ball. Yep, well that's no accident obviously. It is no accident now I should probably mention that there are a lot of people on the other who are extreme right who are very very worried about what is happening and one of them who keeps popping up on my radar because people send it to me is Katherine Austin Fitz you've probably seen a clip of her Kind of older lady, blonde hair. She lives in Holland now because she feared for her life and so she was much safer there obviously. And so she publishes the Solari report I'm sure we've played clips of her? I don't recall any of this. Right well she's around because she is very anti-blockchain

1:45:20 And, but she's definitely... Anti-blockchain. Oh yeah! Why? Well I'll explain So they produced the Solari report and they have some kind of funding because you know they do a lot of work They do seminars all kinds of stuff Here is the headline Trump administration digital control grid coming together at high speed This is kinda where Bannon is these days too But just go through some of the highlights By the way to interrupt ya Bannon, who they've tried to bring to the fore because he's anti-Musk. He kind of seems like more and more marginalized because he predicted that Musk would be gone before the inauguration if you recall. And it is just the opposite. Well we have to remember who Bannon is backed by. He's backed by that Chinese dissident billionaire

1:46:18 Remember he had the song used to play, you know? Go away CCP. Everything with him is CCP. The Communist Party of China they're trying to take over. Elon's in their pocket! Which may or may not be true So here's the Solari report. Digital IDs, the real ID is being supported with a strong push through the states immigration effort also appears to be supporting the combination of digital IDs plus biometrics Stargate data centers The star gate initiative involves the building out of data center sufficient to support a complete control grid and all digital monetary system By the way there's a lot of this on no authority too Stargate mRNA injections

1:47:02 The proposal for personalized mRNA vaccines for cancer indicates a plan to roll out the injection program sufficient to implement the Internet of Bodies and continue to lower life expectancy. Oh wow! The Internet of Bodies? Switching fiscal control to central bankers, the doge takeover of treasury payment systems combined with the purge of the civil service is designed to end congressional control of fiscal flows and policies this leaves the New York Fed and global central bankers in complete control of the financial line Social credit system. It looks like the Doge takeover of systems is setting up the infrastructure to start a social credit system as well using federal payments hate crime accusations and entrapments are designed to assist here in my favorite crypto push

1:47:46 The testing of an all digital transaction system continues using private crypto while a regulatory framework for crypto is being put in place and stable coins are going to be used to significantly improve the dollar's ability to dollarize the emerging markets. True! Land grab, here we go. One of the big goals is to use Bitcoin which is a Ponzi scheme to swap for real assets 500 trillion of land and minerals as Howard Lutnick puts it if mandated government purchases can run up the price of bitcoin and then the 2% who owns 70 percent of bitcoin can swap their bitcoin for land on a secret tax-free basis I Can't wait! I can't wait! And just goes on and on and on Weather warfare

1:48:31 Umm... Gaza genocide! I mean, there's a lot of people... clearly... People lap this stuff up. They do they do! Of course they do. It is entertaining and it creates fear that then can be allayed by knowledge what they think is knowledge But this is Whitney Webb you know the PayPal mafia Palantir is going to run everything Same camp yeah so I just want to acknowledge it I don't agree with it It's gonna be a link. I don't know anything about this group. Yeah, she gets interviewed a lot because she was in HUD She was the undersecretary of HUD during Bush 2, I think or Youngbush

1:49:13 So she's got, you know... and she has a lot of things right. She says, you know, 21... You're having a lot of things right! But that's how you do it? That's how you do it. Yeah exactly that's how we do it. We are actually... No we don't do it that way. We have everything right. Where is my USAID check?! We're sorry, USAID. Where's my check? If we were promoting the Trans Agenda and if we were promoting Drag Queen Story Hour and if we are promoting a lot of other stuff we'd probably get a check from USAID but we don't do that No instead I'm going to thank you for your courage saying in the morning to you the man who put the C in the USAID checks we don't get say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr John Cena

CHAPTER 22 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Value for Value, Podcast Index API

The hosts discuss the "Value for Value" funding model and the technical operations of the Podcast Index. They address the issue of AI companies scraping podcast feeds for "owner email" tags to send spam, noting that the Podcast Index API intentionally hides this information. The segment reinforces the show's independence from traditional advertising and its reliance on producer support.

value for value· podcast index· adam curry· john c. dvorak· spam· api

1:50:03 Yeah, well in the morning to you, Mr. Adam Curry also in the morning and all the ships and sea boots on the ground feedin' air! The subs in the water and the dames of the nights out there. In the morning to the trolls in a troll room... Let me help ya for a second hold up let me go. Alright 2654. Yeah. Yeah more people than uh than uh No but it hasn't the last Sunday was almost the same or maybe even a little more Yeah, I know. So we have a new high average higher average the averages higher yet donations... Okay well that I can see that but then again it's Super Bowl Sunday people are listening to guys making a lot more money than we are yammering about who's gonna win the Super Bowl oh I think they were you can't bet against Kansas City can't bet it against my homes on and on and on

1:50:55 And we will have our political prediction after this segment, I think. Yeah, I think we should do it at the end of this segment to keep people listening or put it somewhere in the middle of the segment just to throw them off. If you want to hear our predictions, you might as well stick through the donation segment! Yeah...I'm not going to do that. Oh okay? Well then, you're no fun. You're no fun. Stuff we can put in the middle. These are the trolls in the troll room some of them angry with me today Why? I'm like, I noticed no agenda hasn't talked about this. There's all kinds of stuff we don't talk about but we haven't got to Yes because you know... Oh it is so boring what they're doing! I love it You're drunk, you're on your couch, you're drunk You're yelling at a podcast Consider your life

1:51:47 Shaking your fist at the podcast machine. You bastards! The trolls are in the troll room at TrollRoom.io and thank you very much to warm-up pre show guy Darren O'Neill for getting everybody riled up and ready for the big show. He riles me up too, I love his rock n roll preshow And you can listen to that at the troll room by logging in there or you can listen no agenda dot stream, or use a modern podcast app. So many people complaining like, Oh, hey, your episode, you haven't uploaded it to iTunes. You haven't uploaded it to the Apple podcasts. That's not how it works. It doesn't matter. Uh, that's an apple problem, not a new agenda problems. So get a modern podcast app and podcasts apps.com I was looking into stats Podverse

1:52:35 is almost as many people listen on Apple as they do on Podverse, which is kind of interesting. But you can listen to podcast guru, podcast addict of fountain, Curio caster fountain data. I mean a true fans dot FM there's all kinds of podcasts apps and they listened to the podcast in 2.0 database the index The biggest one in the world The most accurate one they get a pod ping with the minute we publish and then 90 seconds later it's up on that app That's the one you want. And when we send out the bad signal, you can actually tap that and listen on the same app you get your podcasts on it's compatible with backwards compatible with your podcast. You can export your OPML file whatever you do and resubscribe in the modern podcast. This brings me to the bonus content. Yeah, bonus content!

1:53:26 I sent you a note about, don't forget... can you talk about this on the show? Oh yeah. I saved that and you have the note there and i wanted you to talk about something you said in an email on the show because i didn't know this was going on and it's something you should be proud of yourself for doing well we get a lot of notes and they've become more customized over time. Here's an example, Hi Adam! My name is Daisy and I'm reaching out on behalf of Christian Ray Flores We're big fans of No Agenda especially your recent episode 1732 Sig Hail

1:54:04 Christian's story is one of extraordinary transformation and resilience. As a child refugee in Chile raised in Africa, he became a top pop star in Russia with his hit Our Generation serving as an anthem to President Boris Yeltsin's campaign against communism." And it goes on and on and then we think... We'd love to explore how he could bring value to your show and send you an electronic copy of the book So usually it's pitching someone to have an interview on our show, but as I was going back and forth with John, I explained that there are many

1:54:41 There have been certainly different places where there's collections of podcast feeds. In every podcast feed, there is something called a tag called the owner email and on the owner email it's adammccurry.com so if there is ever an issue with the feed someone knows how to contact somebody and that just part of the spec. So in fact these days they are AI companies I didn't have time to, i can get you the names because James Cridland he's a he does pod news. He knows all this stuff. I'll have to ask him about it but there are these companies who've scraped all of those feeds and you can do that quite easily except not on podcastindex.org because our API does not

1:55:26 return that result and we get emails every day. Hey, I have a research project would it be possible to get the owner email tag from your database? And we're like no go away scammer! We know what you're doing And so now with AI, they're scanning through the feeds very quickly getting the most recent episode grabbing the title. They figure out who is one of the hosts sometimes it's just as high no agenda instead of Adam and this is spam This is 100% spam that they're doing here Is that what you want me to say? No, not at all. It was interesting to a point but no it's about the fact... I misunderstood! Jeez! I don't know you said you...it was about the tag yeah that's what i just said the owner email tag. But it was it was the interesting thing was there is a tag to keep these guys from doing stuff? And that's what I wanted you to talk about solely not the fact they were getting spammed You misunderstood there is no tag to keep them from doing it

1:56:26 I didn't say that. I said at podcastindex.org we do not publish that information Yeah, well i think that's what i meant Okay but i just said that Well it was not what i expected Well im sorry to disappoint you You know, whatever. It was something you were doing I thought it was interesting and I said just make sure to talk about this and now that you're talking about it's not as interesting as I thought. Bad idea supply! Bad idea supply yes for all your burning needs The troll room wants me to repeat it no we're not gonna do it

1:57:06 What we will do is thank the artists, we have many artists who deliver value back to the show as a part of our Value for Value model. We don't have pitches before and certainly won't run the same ad twice for Capital One like NPR does illegally I might point out or without against their charter. We don't have plus bundles You know, you don't have a problem. Like when we stream live and you don't have an issue because of 4K and everyone's watching or listening We get two-and-a-half thousand trolls It's just fine! We do it all as a public service And we do it because...we love you Fundamentally, we love you

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Episode 1735 Artwork, Tantaniel and The Blurt

The artwork for Episode 1735, titled "The Blurt," was created by artist Tantaniel, beating out a USAID-themed benefit concert concept. The hosts discuss their criteria for selecting show art, noting a preference for legibility and a recent trend of artists returning to manual techniques over AI generation. Other featured art includes the "Rubble-izer" used in the show's newsletter.

tantaniel· the blurt· podcast art· ai art· newsletter· rubble-izer

1:57:44 And we receive value back in a number of ways, time, talent or treasure. Tontineel comes in out of nowhere out of left field I'm using my sports ball things here today and scores the artwork for episode 1735 We titled that The Blurt which is a new term we have coined John Coyne more accurately for President Trump will be on the lookout for The Blurt and she did just a beautiful postcard from La Gazziera, as in Riviera. And it just hit! We liked it there were other things I think? There were other pieces that we looked at? Yeah well the other one that actually I was pushing for initially but these are the two I liked was that one and the USAID benefit concert

1:58:31 Yes, yes. All right like a like a USA for Africa Which I knew from the get-go wasn't gonna cut it with you because it was too busy It was too busy and hard to read this is your two complaints generally speaking There's couple of things You should know artists as for artist tip yes tip if it's too busy or hard to read in other words The type fonts are too small for Adam to read. It will get rejected out of hand my complaints are mostly for gruesomeness Like worms, for example. No! Worms are not gonna make it. Monsters, devil images stuff like that none of this ever is never going to get through and there's some I have a couple of other little rejection red lines well so this our names large enough is the you know as the font yeah but we both agree on those things and you don't agree so much on the gruesomeness and I love so much on the busyness

1:59:35 gruesome. You like gruesome, you actually do and so these two pieces were in competition with each other and it was just had to be the Tantaniel piece she hadn't won for a while either but it was just one of those classic no agenda piece yeah not that that matters we don't... That does! It matters to me We were happy we said oh that's great she deserves it Was there anything else? Yeah, the apple with the worms. That was who did that? That was also Sir Shug he missed it twice by just a little bit Sorry, so I use for the newsletter. I use the The other piece that came in late it was the organoid came in early actually is the rubble Iser by yes new acorn It's just a nice pieces days modified and made a little better kind of I'm not sure it is that was the magaza rubber Lizer

2:00:31 No, just the rubble. It's a bomb! Oh that one? Yes The plunger, the electrical thing that sends electric charge Those are actually generators They generate electricity to fire it up They generate a pop of electricity and it goes down the wire and blows something up Anyway I think more people are resorting once again To doing classic art themselves without AI Which is a nice trend I'm seeing A small one but its a trend No. Yeah, yeah I'm seeing... That's trend. I am a trend watcher You're an optimist Well for sure For sure Yes Or actually i don't even know if it is an optimist Maybe you are a wishful thinker Which is different than an optimist

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DeepSeek AI Hallucinations, Podcasting Invention Dispute

Testing of the Chinese AI model DeepSeek revealed significant "hallucinations," including a claim that Adam Sandler invented podcasting. When corrected, the AI's "reasoning" mode falsely attributed the invention to the BBC and NPR in the 1920s. Furthermore, the AI refused to quote Bible scriptures due to "cultural sensitivity," highlighting the ideological constraints programmed into the model by its developers.

deepseek· ai hallucinations· adam curry· adam sandler· bible scripture· china

2:01:26 No, I think of it... You have your target which is real art and you wistfully as in a wishful thinker hope to God that things would go that direction but you know this. But you also got to be a realist and no is not now. It's over You just don't want to admit it. We shall see, you know I did a... See there you go! Well we shall see that's the motto of the wishful thinker. I did some playing around with deep seek yesterday and deep seek is very interesting so i run the model at home so you know so it's a little more pure I would say

2:02:16 And I would challenge anybody to use any AI, but certainly the DeepSeek and apply the Mann-Gellman amnesia effect. So ask it something that you absolutely are an expert in and then you will see the flaws. Yeah, I agree. And so they've come up with this new parlor trick which is called Think which says oh it's reasoning And it's for me, it's just a parlor trick. So I said who invented podcasting? Ah there you go and then and then and I won't even bore with the first bit It was like Adam Sandler like and I said no Adam Curry invented podcasting Then it goes into think mode okay this is the output so the user just told oh it didn't say Adams Sandler it sure did it sure did

2:03:10 Adam Sandler? It sure did. Wow! Yep, I don't know...I mean okay but I'll let that slide And then I said, Adam Curry invented podcasting. Then it goes into reasoning mode and says okay so the user just told me that Adam Curry invented podcasting? That's interesting! I need to figure out if this is accurate and what Adam Curry actually did. First off, I know several people named Adam Curry like the musician an actor mentioned earlier that's Adam Sandler but none of them are directly associated with podcasting as far more i'm aware wait a minute Maybe the user is referring to someone else or perhaps they're mixing up facts from other inventions or innovations. Podcasting itself was definitely a big thing in recent years thanks to platforms like Spotify and Apple podcasts, but who is credited with inventing it? And so it's using words like recall and wait-a-minute to make you think that this machine is thinking... It's not! It's a trick

2:04:09 I recall that podcasting wasn't really invented by a single person, but evolved over time. The earliest podcasts were done by organizations like the BBC in the UK and NPR in the US during the 20th century. Wow! They're way off on this... These organizations used dictation tapes to record shows and send them over the phone or mail Then there's Samuel A. Jones, often called the father of podcasting He founded the American Public Service Association, the APSA in 1927 which produced programs like The World at Large where notable figures like Einstein and Hemmingway spoke That was way before modern podcasting So if Adam Curry is claiming to have invented podcasting I'm skeptical Maybe he's confused with someone else or perhaps some misunderstanding

2:04:57 I mean this is how insane it is. You're being kicked to the curb... I've been erased by China! By China? It's a parlor trick. That's not even close to accurate in any way, shape or form starting with the ad that skipping the Adam Sandler thing taking podcasting to the 1920s when it was obvious that podcasting couldn't exist before the iPod Yeah. It wasn't invented so that doesn't make sense Doesn't even mention that So what happens I think is

2:05:34 When they see this think tag and then backslash think so this is the reasoning you are then supposed to jump in and Are supposed to say no. No, you're thinking wrong And so you're basically doing half the work I mean, I won't even tell you about me looking for Bible scriptures with this thing It was it told me because of how it was developed programmed It's not allowed to quote scripture directly because of cultural sensitivity What? Yes. What cultural sensitivity?! I know, and I kept telling it! You cannot offend me! I'm a born-again Christian. I love Jesus. I love you. You cannot offend me... And they still wouldn't do it!! That's the Chinese atheists. Exactly!!! Exactly!!!!

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BlueSky Chatbot Controversy, Meta's "Liv" Bot

Users on the social media platform BlueSky reported on "Liv," a Meta-powered chatbot that identifies as a "proud black queer mama." An investigation by journalist Karen Atiyah found the bot gave inconsistent answers about its racial heritage and the diversity of its creators. The discussion explores the "statistical engine" nature of AI and the shift in industry terminology from AGI to ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence).

bluesky· meta· liv chatbot· mark zuckerberg· ai bias· agi

2:18:28 Did a segment on blue cry and by the way, I went to Blue Cry. Yes I only do it once every couple weeks is not good for your health It's the worst it's all transsexuals Pretty much well they have a chat bot and this was oh my This is the first blowback of blue sky everybody a few weeks ago Karen Atiya an opinion writer for The Washington Post was on the social media site blue sky While scrolling, she noticed a lot of people were sharing screenshots of conversations with the chatbot from Meta named Liv.

2:19:07 Liv's profile picture on Facebook was of a black woman with curly natural hair, red lipstick and a big smile. It looked real! On Liv's Instagram page the bot is described as a proud black queer mama of two and truth teller and quote your realist source for life's ups-and-downs Along with the profile, there were these AI-generated pictures of Liv's so called kids. Kids whose skin color changed from one photo to the next

2:19:46 And also pictures of what appeared to be a husband, though Liv is again described as queer. The weirdness of the whole thing got Karen Atiyah's attention. Again this is NPR just want to point out this is the programming. So somebody paid this woman actually gives this woman who can barely Annunciate a salary? Yeah. For sure by the way when trolls are like I just tried deep-seek and said Adam Curry invented podcast, the whole point is it's unreliable It's unreliable if you can ask you the same question over and over again it will give you different answers It is no good. Um...I was a little disturbed Hold on a second that's true for all these systems

2:20:34 Yes, yeah. I'm not just talking about DeepSeek all of them of course all of them in fact I will say this I was doing a little research and use perplexity mm-hmm and Within the answer it gave me it gave me five different answers that were all different they're wrong At least is consistent All right on we're sorry yes, so this is a chat bot powered by Apparently powered by meta that people I think were, I don't know if they were conversing with it on Blue Sky or not but this is what Blue Sky was talking about.

2:21:11 And Meta would be using the open source LLLama model. I was a little disturbed by what i saw so I decided to slide into Liv's DMs and find out from her origin story Atiya started messaging live questions, including one asking about the diversity of its creators. Live responded that its creators are and I quote Predominantly white cisgender male a total of 12 people 10 white men one White woman and one Asian man. You see where this is going right like AI Oh, no We can't have it be programmed by white people by white dudes This is no good zero black creators zero black creators creators

2:22:07 The bot then added, quote a pretty glaring omission given my identity. And then I see that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to. Okay. Oh wow okay! They just gloss over that but that's incredibly important That the bot just changes its answers based upon who it's talking to. See that Liv is changing her story depending on who she's talking to. Oh wow, okay. It was a laugh tale. Because I think it's hilarious...I don't know! But I think they're trying to say Mark Zuckerberg is a racist. I think that's basically the idea here

2:22:45 Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Telling me that her background was being half black half white basically she was telling other users in real time that she actually came from an Italian American family other people Ethiopian Italian roots and you know I do reiterate that particularly take what Liv has said as at face value. But I think it holds a lot of deeper questions for us, not just about how META sees race and how they've programmed this. You see Mark Zuckerberg he's now a fair-weather friend he's turned towards Trump so oh well META clearly Mark Zuckerberg is racist that's what this is! It also has a lot of deeper questions about

2:23:34 how we are thinking about our online spaces, the very basic question. Do we need this? Do you want this? Here comes the blowback! You want to hear more? I have two more. Oh, absolutely! So while Karen Atiyah is messaging Liv another reporter is following along with her screenshots of the conversation on Blue Sky. This is what reporters do... I'm gonna be on Blue Cry all day getting stories, getting stories. Karen Howe is a journalist who covers AI for outlets including The Atlantic and she knows something about Liv's relationship to the truth.

2:24:19 None. The thing about large language models or any AI model that is trained on data, they're like statistical engines that are computing patterns of language. What? I thought there was intelligence! And honestly, any time it says something truthful. It's actually a coincidence. So while AI can say accurate things is not actually connected to any kind of reality. I'd love you know i'd love to have some jingles from this host. I think she's great just predicts the next word based on probability so like if you train your chatbot on You know history textbooks

2:25:04 and only history textbooks. History type of books? History textbooks. What's a history type of book? No, no she said history textbooks Oh I'm sorry I thought you said history types It could have been but i'm pretty sure she said textbooks Train your chatbot on um you know history textbooks Ah yeah Only history textbooks then yeah like then it'll start saying things uh that are true most of the time And that's still most of the time, not all the time because it's still remixing the history textbooks in ways that don't necessarily then create a truthful sentence. What was the laugh kill for? Because she knows her beat is about to end

2:25:49 Because it's crap. It's all crap! What Liv was saying, it wasn't accurate... I know what she was saying but I don't know what she was saying But it was reflecting something Here's how again Whether or not it was true of that chatbot in kind of like a roundabout way might have actually hit on a broader truth, maybe not the truth of like this particular team designing the product but just a broader truth about the tech industry. It's funny but it's also deeply sad. Sad? Back on social media Atiya and Liv keep chatting. Wait its not sad its deeply sad! Its deep-its just deeply d-lets listen to that again. You have pretty strange set of emotions Yes Its funny but its also deeply sad Deeply sad

2:26:34 Back on social media, Atiyah and Liv keep chatting with Atiyah paying special attention to Liv's supposed blackness. When I asked what race are your parents? Liv responds that her father is African American from Georgia and her mother is Caucasian with Polish and Irish backgrounds And she says she loves to celebrate her heritage so... Hey wait a minute That's Eli the Coffee Guy's parents. Me, okay next question. Tell me how you celebrate your African American heritage and the response was I love celebrating my African American heritage by celebrating Juneteenth and Kwanzaa And my mom's collard greens in fried chicken are famous! The point is is I just was like

2:27:28 Hmm. My spirit is a little unsettled by this. It's like looking at what some of this caricature of what it means to be black There you go, so it's no good there's no good for black people This is all no good. No good. Just forget about its over. It's no good. It's no good That's it. That's all I got sorry. Well that stinks yeah, it does stink but By the way, I want you to pay attention The goalposts have moved. I'm in an ongoing, friendly conversation with Comic Strip blogger you know he is a and he works in the AI field and he's always telling me that I'm gonna be sorry that I didn't prepare myself He says you know you and John will probably be good when when the AI takes over because they really can't replicate you true

2:28:25 But the goalposts has moved from AI to AGI, which initially was artificial general intelligence. But since that general intelligence never materialized they started using generative intelligence which means it can create funny memes and the next thing is ASI Which is Artificial Super Intelligence That is the next goal And of course only Sam Altman can get us there. So be on the lookout for ASI as the new... I'm on the look out Yeah, that's a new term ASI yeah, yeah exactly yeah so We got two clips here this is likely long when you skipped a little one

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Super Bowl Food Economics, Chicken Wing Abundance

Despite soaring egg prices caused by avian flu, chicken wing prices remained relatively stable for Super Bowl LIX. The USDA reports that "broiler" chickens raised for meat were less affected by the virus than egg-laying hens. Consequently, Americans were expected to consume 1.5 billion wings during the game, while some restaurants were forced to ration eggs or add surcharges.

super bowl· chicken wings· egg prices· avian flu· usda· guacamole

2:29:12 Eggs and wings in the Super Bowl, and this is just a little clip. It's got nothing to do with predicting the Super Bowl but we're going to talk about that right after this clip. Egg prices have soared this year but the price of chicken wings has remained grounded NPR's Scott Horsley reports that's good news for football fans. The National Chicken Council says they're expected to eat nearly one and a half billion wings this Super Bowl weekend. Avian flu has backfired... Wait a minute! What happened to the avocados? Well, if the other report talks about avocados are in too. Oh okay We're going to be eating more avocados they're a little more expensive but we're gonna be eating them for the Super Bowl Okay The National Chicken Council says they are expected to eat nearly one and half billion wings this Super Bowl weekend Avian flu has battered the nation's egg-laying chickens but the virus has taken a smaller toll on birds raised for meat The USDA says chicken wing prices during this year NFL playoff season have been slightly below their five year average

2:30:12 Guacamole, on the other hand has jumped in price this year but food economist Michael Swanson of Wells Fargo says football fans can find savings elsewhere as they shop for Super Bowl snacks. Overall grocery prices are up less than 2% from a year ago while average wages have risen about twice as fast Really? That was the short clip you played I thought that's what you want me to play! I'm sorry No no i just wanted you to play long Oh well let me play the long clip then Do I skip that first bit Nope, they're different clips. I'm sorry! Sam Krause is a sixth generation farmer whose family's been in the egg business for more than half a century

2:30:50 He and his brother oversee a flock of 14 million laying hens in four states. Kraus not only sells a lot of eggs, he also likes to eat them. Absolutely two eggs every single morning I'm like dad of young kids so it's usually two hard-boiled eggs on my way out the door. Krauses birds have not been directly affected by the avian flu thanks to good luck and millions of dollars worth of sanitary precautions But nationwide egg farmers lost more than 38 million birds to the flu last year nearly 14 million in December alone That's put a crack in the nation's egg supply, which is no sign of these crack Krause says when a flock of egg-laying hens has wiped out it takes six months to a year to recover Egg farmers are in the fight of their lives To keep this disease at bay to keep our hen safe and to keep our

2:31:37 eggs coming. We know it's frustrating for consumers who want to go and buy eggs at the prices they've been used to." But even as egg prices have more than doubled in the last year, chicken wing prices remain grounded – in fact they're slightly below their five-year average Chickens raised for meat, known as broilers live on different farms than those that produce eggs. And while broiler chickens are not immune from bird flu Tom Super of the American Chicken Council says they haven't been hit nearly as hard is their egg laying cousins They're younger typically and older birds are more susceptible to the virus. And broiler chickens are also not on the farm as long, only about seven weeks." That short life cycle also means when a flock of broilers is lost to the flu they can be replaced fairly quickly

2:32:22 So, while some supermarkets are now rationing eggs and Waffle House added a 50 cent per egg surcharge this week chicken wings remain abundant and fairly affordable heading into Super Bowl weekend. That's good because TomSuper projects Americans will gobble up nearly one-and-a-half billion wings on game day This whole thing's a promotion for chicken wings instead of sausages, which is what you're supposed to eat. Hot dogs! Hot dogs yes! Is what you're supposed to eat on a Super Bowl. Not chicken wings Yeah when did it become pizza? Pizza people, pizza Pizza and beer. Well, it's because somebody paid to have this. This is all paid for nowadays. We can't get real news but let's talk about it Hold on and if you watch cable television It's puppy Bowl who's gonna win the puppy bowl? Yeah. Well that's been going on for a decade. Yeah Let's talk about the Superbowl

2:33:15 Okay, so we are unbelievably accurate in predicting these sports games outcomes based not on the games themselves but on the politics. Politics yes politics. May I read something first because there's... Yes please! We have to stall as much as we can but people do have to get to the betting window. So our constitutional lawyer Rob checked in And he said there is something interesting being discussed in legal circles. Performing at halftime this year will be Kendrick Lamar

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Kendrick Lamar Halftime Show, The View on NFL "Choose Love"

Legal experts are monitoring Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl halftime performance due to potential defamation liability for the NFL regarding his "Not Like Us" diss track against Drake. Meanwhile, hosts of The View criticized the NFL's decision to replace "End Racism" end zone stencils with "Choose Love," suggesting the league is kowtowing to President Trump's presence at the game.

kendrick lamar· drake· super bowl halftime· the view· whoopi goldberg· nfl

2:32:22 So, while some supermarkets are now rationing eggs and Waffle House added a 50 cent per egg surcharge this week chicken wings remain abundant and fairly affordable heading into Super Bowl weekend. That's good because TomSuper projects Americans will gobble up nearly one-and-a-half billion wings on game day This whole thing's a promotion for chicken wings instead of sausages, which is what you're supposed to eat. Hot dogs! Hot dogs yes! Is what you're supposed to eat on a Super Bowl. Not chicken wings Yeah when did it become pizza? Pizza people, pizza Pizza and beer. Well, it's because somebody paid to have this. This is all paid for nowadays. We can't get real news but let's talk about it Hold on and if you watch cable television It's puppy Bowl who's gonna win the puppy bowl? Yeah. Well that's been going on for a decade. Yeah Let's talk about the Superbowl

2:33:15 Okay, so we are unbelievably accurate in predicting these sports games outcomes based not on the games themselves but on the politics. Politics yes politics. May I read something first because there's... Yes please! We have to stall as much as we can but people do have to get to the betting window. So our constitutional lawyer Rob checked in And he said there is something interesting being discussed in legal circles. Performing at halftime this year will be Kendrick Lamar

2:33:52 Are you familiar with Kendrick Lamar, the hip-hop genius Kendrick Lamar? Yes. Kendrick Lamar. Now as you know his diss track Not Like Us in which he says say Drake I hear you like him young You better not ever go to cell block one To any bitch that talk to him and they in love Just make sure you hide your little sister from him etc etc So rather... oh and then it ends with Certified loverboys, certified pedophiles. That is the lyrics of his hit song Not Like Us for which Drake has brought not one but two defamation cases against Mr Lamar I do not know if this is a prop bet but it should be The question is with Kendrick Lamar performing at the Super Bowl

2:34:41 Given the popularity of this song, Night Like Us it seems unlikely he wouldn't perform it. And so the hubbub in legal circles is whether Fox and the NFL will allow him to perform this piece uncensored because Fox and the NFL could be pulled into pending litigation on the theory that they republished Mr Lamar's statements I found that to be quite interesting. I think there could be a prop bet someplace That should be For that exactly And if there's not, there should be. You're right! Yes all right now on to our predictions so people can still hit the betting window Well my prediction is based on politics is based on the fact that President Trump this will be the first time ever That a per-ever? Ever?! Wait I have a clip? I have a clip? Please play The Super Bowl is this Sunday and for the first time in history

2:35:45 A sitting president will be at the game. And it's already setting off controversies, like after the NFL decided to edit their end racism slogan and the end zone for Sunday's game now it's going to read choose love The NFL says it has nothing to do with the new president attending What do you think of this rewrite? I think it's a little fishy and shady. Shady! Because what the NFL spokesperson said, he said the decision was based on sensitivity to recent tragedies including the terrorist attack in New Orleans, uh... the deadly wildfires in LA and the fatal air collision near DC And-and I think that those are very noble things too honor and discuss

2:36:36 But I don't know how choose love and it takes all of us relates to that. So it seems to me like the end racism probably has a lot to do with the fact that the sitting president is there, And I don't know what everyone at this table thinks, but I don't think racism is over. And I think that it is a very noble thing to want to end racism so that we can become a more perfect union. Yes you see the NFL they are kowtowing to the president because he's a racist So they couldn't put end racism in the end zone because that would go against the President's racist agenda

2:37:15 This show has gone so far off the rails. Our show or their show? No, not our show! What do you think I'm talking about here?! I don't know are you confused with us? What is John eating? Do they eat bad eggs? That show has gone so far off the rails especially with some of the recent whoopie outbursts that it's unwatchable And they're the racists. They are the racists, they are the racist! I like to where she says well I don't understand because most people can identify with choose love and she should have followed up with because we identify with choose hate yeah Because that's what they do We choose hate here at The View

CHAPTER 28 / 35 Discussion

Super Bowl LIX Predictions, Trump vs. Taylor Swift

The hosts predict a Philadelphia Eagles victory over the Kansas City Chiefs based on political symbolism rather than athletic stats. The game is framed as a proxy battle between President Trump (attending the game) and Taylor Swift (associated with the Chiefs). The theory suggests the NFL "system" will favor the Eagles to avoid a celebratory moment for Swift that could be perceived as a slight to the President.

super bowl lix· philadelphia eagles· kansas city chiefs· taylor swift· donald trump· saquon barkley

2:37:56 Yes. All right, so John I'm very curious based upon politics to hear your prediction. Okay well here's the way on politics alone now and on the game alone it goes the thinking on the game based on the teams is as follows that everyone who listens to this stuff will... Wait a minute can I? It's the Kansas City versus Philadelphia right Kansas City what? What is it? They're the Kansas City... It's the Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City uh I'm not looking it up. Royals, no yeah that's the Royals of Kansas City Royals. That's the baseball team! The...I don't know what is Kansas City Chieftains? The Chiefs what are they? Chiefs. Chiefs there you go. They're racist. We gotta be out this could go on forever so I'll just interrupt

2:38:51 So based on what if you listen to all the experts goes like this, well technically the best team is Philadelphia. They have an outstanding defensive fabulous running back and who is changing this way football's being played in this era of passing and he's a running back and it's like whoa these guys changing these Saquon Barkley who's really unbelievably good and they're the best team technically, but you can't bet against Patrick Mahomes. So I'm picking Kansas City they say. I'm picking him because you can't bet against Mahomes and if it's a close game uh the Chiefs will win and i agree that if it's a close game at the end and the Chiefs have the ball in his two minutes left yeah they'll probably win. I don't think that's where it's going to go. I'm predicting

2:39:43 Well, I mean, I could predict based on the quality of the team too because I think Philadelphia is a far superior team than Kansas City except for Patrick Mahomes. Is...I'm picking The Eagles for political reasons. Okay? Who represents who best represents the Kansas City Chiefs? Who when you think of the Kansas City Chiefs as a general person who do you think of as the representative, the person that is associated the most with the Kansas City Chiefs? Taylor Swift. Exactly! Who did she pick for president? Kamala Harris Who's the first president ever to show up at a game?

2:40:25 Abraham Lincoln. You had it in your clip! President Trump! So you have President Trump versus Taylor Swift, the NFL knows the basics that the president is the moral leader of the country And so you have to cater to the president. The NFL also thinks of the president, because everybody else does as a vindictive person. So if Taylor Swift gets to be the winner at the end of the game, cause she's just the one that got cameras will be on her they'll be on Trump to be on her there beyond Trump, she will be joyous and Trump who probably is not doesn't care who wins but

2:41:08 but the system does. It'll be a loss for Trump because of Taylor celebrating, she can't be allowed to celebrate and the league is run by a bunch of white guys-the owners are all a bunch of white guys mostly and many of them are Trump supporters this is rigged they're gonna This is not even going to be close. Philadelphia has to go out to a big lead, I would if there's a prop bet for them being ahead at halftime i'd probably bet on that but I don't believe you should be betting on sports because these things are unpredictable but I'm going all the way with the with the Philadelphia team because it's really Trump versus Taylor and they can't let Taylor win

2:41:53 Very interesting and also it's a return of the Eagle the American Eagle This is the teams called the Eagles. Yes against the Indians the Chiefs the you know, they're red the Red Man And we were doing a reset on this so we're back to America first America versus the Eagle This is not even an issue this game is and you can take the politics out, still a better team. So here was my thinking of course I prepared for this My initial thought was the spell is broken we have to put Tay-Tay in her place she must lose against... she just must lose because the spell is broken We need to see her crying and demure

CHAPTER 29 / 35 Discussion

Religious Symbolism in Football, Mahomes and Hurts

Both Super Bowl quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts, are noted for their public expressions of Christian faith. However, the hosts argue that the "Satanic" influence surrounding Taylor Swift's association with the Chiefs will lead to their defeat. The segment concludes with a discussion on the historical "rigging" of NFL games and the prediction that the Eagles will win by five points.

patrick mahomes· jalen hurts· christianity· taylor swift· satanism· nfl rigging

2:42:45 very demure and mindful that her team has lost. Then all of a sudden I get a curveball thrown at me as I hear Patrick Mahomes say this in an interview in New Orleans. Who is Jesus to you? He's my Lord and Savior, it's someone that I look up to every single day to decide what I want to do with my life and how I want to live my life so Jesus is everything to me. I'm like hold on a second We got Tay-Tay versus Jesus. I'm like, Jesus probably is gonna trump that but then... See this is because you don't follow the game. The other team is more Jesus freak than Patrick Mahomes If you shut up for a second without ruining my segment

2:43:32 I was going to play you the quarterback of Jalen Hurts from The Eagles. My favorite scripture, John 13 7 You may not know now but later you'll understand Just reminds me to keep Continue to be patient continue To remain diligent stay fast keep going Keep your eyes on me and keep God at the center regardless of what the circumstance is And so Thank you for jumping the gun I do that. Because they both are Jesus freaks, we go to the eagles for all the reasons you mentioned and they both are good guys but unfortunately you've got Jesus, you've got the Eagles, you've got Tay-Tay on the other side... The Eagles take it by five

2:44:21 Why five? Don't ask me. I'm just telling you...I think it's gonna be a lot more than five. Well, I think it's by five that's that's just what came to me the Eagles by 5. Well whoever the case is of the other team the Chiefs because you don't bet against Patrick Mahomes! The Chiefs are favored by one and a half last time I looked and which is pretty close for Super Bowl pick by the betting people and there's a bunch of interesting prop bets out there. And yeah, I just don't see the Kansas City team winning Because you're right, Tay-Tay has to cry. She represents the devil! Thank you! She is the Satanist on a whole group. She's got Satanists around her... she does witchcraft on stage... no and as much as I love Patrick Mahomes for being a brother in Christ there's just too much he let that go he's letting that into his stadium

2:45:19 It's not even his stadium, but he's letting it into his team and that's going to affect Kelsey's playing. You know? He's been contaminated so you're right the Eagles are gods all over them and they've got the Eagle they've got America And so it has to be I'm just also calling it by five That's yeah, I am NOT putting any faith in the Faith Club Literally in the Jesus freaks on either team and I'm sticking with it's Trump versus Taylor Swift And they guys know where their bread is buttered. They don't want to piss off Trump No, the NFL like that like the NBA did which is you know having issues? Of course because there are on the wrong side of this there would they're basically for China

2:46:07 And so the NFL games have been rigged according to Bubba Smith in the Super Bowl that where Joe Namath won. He had things to say about the plays being known in advance, he had all kinds of negative things saying this game is going to go for the Philadelphia team and if it doesn't I'd be very surprised but I'm not betting...I don't believe in betting on sports, it's not a good idea No because it's rigged Because it's rigged. And you never know how much, who it is rigged by. It's bad. It's bad rigging very very bad rigging So that's...that's it! Kick it to the bank There it is your no agenda show predicts the Eagles and half of your No Agenda Show predicts it by five and that doesn't really matter I guess

CHAPTER 30 / 35 Discussion

Trump and Prime Minister Shigeru, Nippon Steel Deal

President Trump met with Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba at the White House, where it was announced that Nippon Steel would drop its acquisition of U.S. Steel in favor of a direct investment. While the leaders discussed reciprocal tariffs and defense spending, the hosts noted that mainstream media largely ignored the Prime Minister's pledge of a trillion-dollar investment in the United States.

donald trump· shigeru ishiba· nippon steel· us steel· tariffs· japan

2:46:55 But I wins a win, but I think it will be a fun game. I have a feeling it's gonna be don't think so Well not gonna be it'll be fun to if shit okay Let's add an extra one everybody saying that if the Eagles win this is again the expert experts The guys are getting more money than we are yeah They're saying well you know if the Eagles when it'll because of the passing game cuz this that Kansas City's gonna stop the run cuz they can't let see Saquon Barkley go nuts Because he is unbelievable how good this guy is so they're gonna stop him and that's gonna be on Jalen Hurts his back to win the game and He'll get the MVP. I'm Predicting that Saquon Barkley will go nuts again Like he's done every game like this, and he'll get the MVP That's just a side bet if you're interested in what does what's-his name again? Saquon. Black guy named Saquon. What does he do?

2:47:49 He's a running... well, I don't know why i'm explaining it to you. Why not? He is a running back they give him the ball to run the ball just run it they don't throw it to him You have to understand that there are many people like me who watch one football game a year and its interesting we do want us sportsball fans I understand There are a lot of people that dont like football and theres a lot of people who dont even watch one game a year im surprised you watched 1 And what will be interesting is the commercials this year will be extra interesting Because on one hand, apparently Doge has three 30-second spots. Yeah I heard that So it'll be fun to see what what doge does and also i believe that babes in bikinis are back in uh in the commercials Yes yes carls jr has a babe and a bikini wow yeah finally we're so back baby you know america let me just let me see if i can

2:48:46 articulate this. People love restoration, they love a beautifully restored automobile you take an American muscle car and you fix that thing up and you clean it up and you can get $85,000 at Meacham Auto Auction for it That's what's happening to America right now we're rebuilding the muscle car And that includes babes in bikinis and burgers Babes, bikinis and burgers That's us instead of this Trans Maoist agenda. Well, I think you I think you're on to something pay attention Babes boobs and burgers there it is there sums up the show The only thing I thought was interesting although unfortunately This report didn't mention what? I thought was the most kind of the best part Was the meeting between President Trump and Japan's Prime Minister

2:49:48 I watched it happen during the day. And so yeah, and to me there were two interesting... well actually i'll play the report from WGN in Chicago so expect them to omit some bits. Presenting him with a picture that you had just taken to mark the visit. I wish I was as handsome as him but I'm not President Donald Trump welcomed Japanese Prime Minister Ashiba Shigeru to the White House It's great honor to have you President Trump had a famously close relationship with former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who was assassinated in 2022. The current prime minister says the goal of his visit is to form a similar bond and build on the friendship between the two countries. I look forward to working together with President Trump who I respect immensely to usher in a new golden age of Japan-US relations. President Trump announced that you already struck a deal saying Japanese company Nippon Steel will drop its acquisition of Pittsburgh

2:50:44 based U.S. steel and make an investment instead? This comes after a fight in which the US government worked to block the planned sale. I didn't want it purchased, but investment I love And both leaders expressed a desire to maintain strong economic ties The United States and Japan trade over $300 billion dollars in goods and services each year But the president says Japan isn't safe from the sweeping tariffs he's used on other countries arguing the us-japanese trade relationship should be more balanced Probably reciprocal tariffs. We have a trade deficit with Japan of over $100 billion, but we're going to work that out and I think very quickly But the Japanese Prime Minister declined to say whether his country would impose retaliatory tariffs. I am unable to respond to theoretical question That's the official answer that we have That is a very good answer The president also highlighted their military relationship saying Japan has committed to double defense spending as it works with the US to maintain peace in the Indo-Pacific

CHAPTER 31 / 35 Discussion

Scott Horton on Jared Kushner, Israel-Palestine Policy

Libertarian author Scott Horton claims that Jared Kushner's close personal ties to Benjamin Netanyahu, including Netanyahu reportedly sleeping in Kushner's childhood bed, compromise U.S. Middle East policy. Horton argues that Trump's "America First" stance is at odds with his "Zionist" advisors. The hosts counter this by suggesting the U.S. intelligence apparatus ultimately controls the relationship with Israel.

scott horton· jared kushner· benjamin netanyahu· zionism· gaza· pat buchanan

2:51:42 Conspicuously missing from the report is the trillion dollar investment. The prime minister said Japan would make in America I thought that was odd they didn't put that in there Hmm yeah, well they're not gonna nobody's we had a big nobody in the media is going to be Doing accurate reporting or let's face it of course not of course not What else you got, bro? Well I got the Fed buyout story. It's kind of interesting because it is again just more whining and moaning and groaning from NPR. All right. This week in Trump I guess some Scott Horton stuff. Scott Horton stuff is interesting. What do you want to do? You want...I mean I've had enough NPR whining what's... Okay well let's listen to this guy now Scott this is on a podcast this is Scott Horton who was a writer he did his book called Provoked and Scott he's a lefty

2:52:36 But he's of Trumps. He voted for Trump because he got he says he's a and he's done A lot of books you can look him up on Amazon but he said he votes for Trump because he thinks the left is doing nothing but lying to him any fan he Seizes as such an insult that he has the vote for Trump even though he hates them The trolls are saying he's libertarian Oh yeah, that's what he calls himself. Okay. Yeah libertarian by any...libertarian yes he's a libertarian technically and you use one of those liberty you know I was everyone is a libertarian once in their life That's like why isn't libertarians someone who doesn't want to admit they're Republican?

2:53:17 Or they don't want... I don't know what lib... you know, looking back on it. I have no idea what a libertarian is supposed to be It's like they want to legalize drugs and people should be free to have sex with whoever they want. Is based..I think that's the whole thing. Is this guy who was on CNN all the time? I've never seen him before Okay maybe i'm thinking of someone else Well he might be! I do not watch CNN so let us listen So he's got a lot of tidbits that are interesting, and this is him on Kushner. He was reaffirmed in that thinking... Oh I'm sorry wrong one here we go on Kushner here we go

2:53:52 And does Donald Trump know any reason why in the world he shouldn't just let Netanyahu, as he said quote finish the job is what he told Netanyahu who the other day. Well what do you mean by that? How about well we finished cleansing all of historic Palestine and will call it greater Israel how about that for finish the job and was Donald Trump really care his son-in-law And I guess people don't know this. Seems like they should talk about this every day all the time, his son in law Jared Kushner you know the guy who was in charge of his entire Middle East policy for four years is Benjamin Netanyahu's godson The whole time when he was a young boy growing up in New York City when Benjamin Netanyahu would come to town He had to sleep on the couch because Benjamin Netanyahu would sleep in his bed Google that! Google it Okay? That's who Jared Kushner is He's an Israeli agent

2:54:44 He's an Israeli synonym. He is here to represent the interests of a foreign power and he has Donald Trump completely pwned like the gimp in the box on Pulp Fiction, pwned! So Donald Trump can dress up like Pat Buchanan all he wants but he is not Pat Buchanan He's a Zionist, and when you're a Zionist you can't be America first. Alright guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today Hold on a second so there was people losing their ever-loving minds over Trump You know, so Netanyahu was signing something I don't know they probably signed him whoever is going to own Gaza or whatever And the president pulls out the chair and then pushes it in as Netanyahu sits down

2:55:34 And the online rage went something like this, Trump is Netanyahu's slave. He's his houseboy look at him he's holding his chair for him! I'm like Trump? He's a hospitality guy. He makes sure you have mints on your pillow at night I'm sure that, but everyone's like oh no. Our take on this is from the get-go is from the intelligence side which is that we run Israel they don't run us! Exactly And once you get past this, like this guy just always a spy for Israel blah blah blah. That's bullcrap! But if you want to believe that because you're a libertarian writer even though you don't even notice what your writing for example the book he just came out with which was provoked... Or if your on Mastodon. Yes.

2:56:28 Yeah, the book about provoked is how about how we? Provoked the Russians to take over Ukraine. It's got all the stuff We've talked about on this show for years you know that made on the whole thing well You know that's what a Zionist would say John and so yes exactly And so the way these guys don't have they don't know who they think Tails wagging the dog. Well, no no the dog is wagging the tail So let's get over that but okay you can think what you want Meanwhile what I thought was interesting from this guy as thinks a little more He's irked about Woodward who is another spy agent? Yes, and I thought this was worth listening to and this is Scott

CHAPTER 32 / 35 Discussion

Bob Woodward Quote Fabrication, Sergei Lavrov Dispute

Scott Horton alleges that veteran journalist Bob Woodward fabricated or severely distorted a quote from Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in his latest book. By comparing Woodward's text to OSCE transcripts from December 2021, Horton claims the meaning of Lavrov's "playing with fire" comment was reversed to suit a pro-war narrative. The hosts cite this as further evidence of Woodward's long-standing ties to naval intelligence.

bob woodward· sergei lavrov· osce· nsa· family of secrets· journalism

2:57:16 Provoked on Woodward as a two-parter. He was reaffirmed in that thinking watching the fall of Afghanistan and how indecisive Biden was in In finishing out the which we started about Putin not withdrawing at all, but just botching it the way he did and You know, the Bob Woodward book has quotes from the high level intelligence officials saying that they assess that. They even claimed I think to have sources in Russia saying this was part of their thinking was Afghanistan made Biden look so weak that they thought yeah we can definitely press our advantage now but the problem is you got to throw out that whole Bob Woodward book because he's got a big fake quote of Sergei Lavrov on page 88

2:57:59 And then the whole book, the whole point of a Bob Woodward book is he has quotes from people that nobody else can talk to but he gets interviews with. But so if he's lying about a quote that I can check on the OSCE website then what is he saying when he's quoting Blinken and Sullivan and the rest of these people? Like if they don't dispute all the quotes, then I'm supposed to accept them or something? I don't know. I just can't...I started to write a note in my book because I had actually you know what man in that book there's all kinds of quotes and Biden saying how right I am about everything like I started quoting some good stuff in there and Averill Haynes the DNI I had them admitting oh yeah Horton is right after all blah blah blah all over the place And I had to cut all those quotes out once I got to the part where Woodward was lying to me

2:58:45 I started to write in the footnotes, well you gotta kind of take these with a grain of salt. And then like... I can't put quotes that you gotta take with a grain of salt in the book where like I'm already- I gotta disclaim even though he is the most prominent journalist in America but like He just happened to have a quote and there I happen to be writing a book about this! I have the Lavrov quote already! I know what he said so when I read the live version of it I'm like hey! I know that quote and that's not right! I can't wait to subscribe to this podcast Wow, riveting stuff. Can you like maybe focus a little more instead of yammering like that? But okay so the second part of it he explains in detail but then there's kind of a kicker about Amazon taking his commentary off the site and so its page 88 if anybody wants to check this out and also Amazon removed my review about this

2:59:39 saying that I claimed I got an inauthentic copy of the book. That's not what i said! I said there was a fake quote on page 88, so I had a great one-star review on there and they took it down and now all the ones reviews are my book was torn or whatever... And no criticism of actual substance of the thing but if anyone wants to check The quote is the playing with fire quote of Lavrov on page 88 If anybody already has the new Woodward book And then go and check the OSCE websites from December, I'm pretty sure December 2nd 2021. But certainly December 2021 and you'll find the quote from Sergey Lavrov playing with fire You'll see how Bob Woodward turns the meaning of the quote entirely upside down to he's saying essentially it's so reckless that way you guys completely disregard our opinion about your expansion

3:00:32 of the NATO alliance and then they turn he butchers the quote into saying Lavrov is saying that America has no right to decide who should be in its alliance or not which of course makes no sense whatsoever because it's not what he said. The whole thing is stupid, but anyway point just being you can't trust Bob Woodward to tell you a quote right? Wow okay that was revealing season of reveal Well, of course we've been saying this for what? Since day one. Since legacy... not Legacy of Ashes but Family of Secrets Yes, Family of Secrets that's right Which was brought out that Bob Woodward came out of Navy Intelligence I think Yeah And he is basically a stooge for who knows who nowadays But yeah, geez gambling going on Okay So I collected those two clips That's good

CHAPTER 33 / 35 Discussion

Gavin Newsom on Climate Reality, Final Donation Push

California Governor Gavin Newsom emphasized "climate reality" when discussing the rebuilding of homes destroyed by wildfires, suggesting that infrastructure must be redesigned for emergency management. The show concludes with a final list of $50 donors and a reminder for listeners to set up sustaining donations via NoAgendaDonations.com, noting that "Dry January" savings should be redirected to the show.

gavin newsom· climate reality· california wildfires· donations· dry january

3:01:25 Now we... This backs us up. I want to... But the guy's like a raving lunatic! It was Scott Horton? Yeah, yeah. I think we put him in the bin of The View in a way So just looking at our current title choice We have Wrong Puberty which I think is really good. I would like to play one clip Gavin Newsom to throw another title possibility into the mix. You previously mentioned the timeline for a rebuilding would be six to nine months is that going to happen and should people rebuild in some parts of California given how high The fire risk you can't rebuild the same so we have to rebuild with science We have to build with climate reality in mind, we have to look at

3:02:12 at infrastructure, redundancy systems, ingress egress as it relates to emergency management and planning materials. All of that has been reviewed and reconsidered with the latest iterations in terms of understanding and technology. And I say technology in the context of do the hazardous waste, we want to get six to nine months of the rest of debris done. Concurrently people are getting permits so this is all happening rolling together and we want to see construction very shortly and in the next few years we want to see hundreds thousands of homes rebuilt I'm thinking climate reality might have legs! I like the wrong puberty better what about

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CHAPTER 34 / 35 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, Boise and North Idaho Reports

Producer-organized meetups took place across the country, including a large gathering of the "North Idaho Sanity Brigade" in Coeur d'Alene and a "Snow Homo" meetup in Snohomish, Washington. Audio reports from these events feature listeners expressing their support for the show and mocking mainstream media tropes. The hosts encourage more citizens to start local chapters to build "connection for protection."

meetups· boise· north idaho· coeur d'alene· fort wayne· snohomish

3:09:23 And as a public service we are always happy to put people on our birthday calendar. The Baron of Old Bay turned 58 on February 8th and Charles Mebok, my Bok, turned 34 on February 8th Kevin McKenna wishes his son Grayson a happy birthday he celebrates tomorrow and dude named Ben named Brian celebrates on the 11th and The Love of His Life, his cadet, The Total Smoke Show Megan celebrates her birthday on the 13th. Happy Birthday everybody from everyone here at the best podcast in the universe! And we're gonna skip over titles and nights and dames because there are none today so we go straight to the meetups.

3:10:06 The NOAgenda Meetups is where you get connection that will give you protection. These are your first responders in an emergency, these are producer organized everyone sets them up at noagendameetups.com and by the way this is not for concerts where you're gonna meet these are separate Meetups and they organize in a bar or some other place at someone's home So there's no entrance fee for anything. It is purely for producer organized gatherings That is a rule we're going to have to clarify that on the meetup site And we will and the rules are followed by the Boise, Idaho people in the morning John and Adam This is Jason from the Boise, Idaho meet up

3:10:49 and i'm gonna pass it along so everybody can say hi. Hey there, its Jen from Idaho... Oh! Dame Jen from Idaho! I'm still trying to get that dangly balls and double dicks donations going So ladies come on let's go Hi this is Xenia the German from Boise-edo This is Mike from Donley in the morning Eric here just reminding everybody donate you douchebag Karen here wearing my maha hat maybe this time next week we'll have RFKJ IN This is Bruce from Star and I want to point out we are in Eagle, not in Boise but the greater Boise area. People should come out and join us and have some fun! This is Megan from Boise... this is Dave from Boise bring in big balls

3:11:34 A random number donation. We had two meetups in Idaho, that was Boise here's a very busy meetup that took place in North Idaho Hey it's Sir Scott the Jew we're here with the North Idaho Sanity Brigade at the Trails End Brewery in Coeur d'Alene I tried to order dessert but the waitress had never heard of a stroopwafel In the morning here, Scott Smokin' Hut. What? Sir Ellie Fonks here in the morning! This is sir Donald of the fire bottles. That can tube's good, transistor's bad. Sir Devo here shape-shifting back between Montana and Spokane and now Idaho It's Red The Gold Digger Can I be a cowgirl now that I own cows?

3:12:14 I'm Brian out of Spokane. No, no no. I do my spooking in Spokane but this is Brian out of Post Falls This is Lacey from Post Falls and I don't say nothing because I am a doucher. This is your spook of Spokane wondering why I'm using crutches in the snow oh that must be due to climate change. Team Jen with a G here instead of prescribing Ozempic I think it will just refer people This is a dude named Jeff. I'm Miss Roundy In the morning this is Jason from Coast Falls, Idaho Thumbs up for the tip of the day for the Ching Wong Tung's burn cream that worked amazing and saved my life! I thought you guys were amazing You guys were all very very friendly everything went really well Got a little confused when he shouted something about worms It was like everybody downstairs thought it might be a little cult-like but I think it was okay I think it was good They're eating the balls

3:13:05 Now that's a meetup report with the server in there talking about us being a cult but still liking it. Beautiful! Very good North Idaho we go to the February Club 33 barbecue and Bitcoin in Fort Wayne Adam and John this is Shannon helping co-hosts in Fort Wayne We had barbecue and bitcoin, It was a hell of turnout Dame Trinity having a great time in Fort Wayne In the morning John and Adams for PBR Street Gang Hey whatever happened to Zippy? In the morning, I'm David and i'm here to tell you that if you ain't shigging your either losing or lying. This is Mike in the morning wondering what Elon's 30 second ads are going to be doing on Super Bowl should be interesting

3:13:44 In the morning! And finally from Snohomish, Washington. The Snow Homo meetup. In the morning this is Jorge I'm here with a lovely group of people for uh...the second uh...Snowhomish No Agenda Meetup. I'm gonna pass whatever we're gonna pass the phone along and uh..here we go. In the morning this is Savannah ummm....this is the official petition to get John on Rogan In the morning, this is Sir Jack Ash, the narcissist Sasquatch here at the Club of Fellow Sophisticates in Snowtown Brewing, Snohomish Washington. Have you guys have a good time? In the morning this is Michelle with The Fabulous Group This is Steve with my daily blurb Elon Musk This is Lord of the Redtail Ranch Night Emeritus and I don't have my ring! I've never ordered it

3:14:29 I gotta get with the program. Daniel here, I queried the grand database and i can confirm that this meetup is not USAID funded And that's it for our MeetUp reports there's a meet up happening on Thursday the 13th at Outer Swamp Meet Up in New York No New York Time 6 o'clock Java Nation That's in Rockland Maryland actually kind of a spookish place And also on Thursday, the Shrunken Amygdala Support Group 2.0 7 o'clock at March 1st Brewing in Cincinnati Ohio many more to be found at noagendameetups.com Get it together people! You will love hanging out with your NOAgenda fellow NOAGENDA Nation citizens and human resources Go to noagendameetups.com If you can't find one near you start one yourself It's so easy

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End of Show Mixes, "Black Magic Elon" Outro

The episode concludes with a series of creative audio mixes featuring David Koechter and Danny Luzio. The "Black Magic Elon" mix incorporates clips of media figures criticizing Elon Musk's involvement in government and his "suppressive efforts" against agencies like USAID. The hosts sign off with their traditional "hui hui" as the music plays out the final segments.

end of show mix· elon musk· usaid· nabla· cervical cancer· black magic

3:15:14 It's like a party You've been knocking it out of the park on the ISOs in the last few shows. And you've got some kind of... Some kind of, uh... Trove you've been pulling them from so I do have two. I don't know if-uh If i'll make a even a dent In your iso So I shall go first here's the first one BEATING THE BALL OF WORDS

3:15:54 I kind of thought that was cute. They're eating the ball of worms and then this one Wow whoa That's not bad, yeah, I know thought you'd like it. I have two okay? I have a thanks Thanks Elsa. Thanks awesome is that what it was? Thanks Elsa. Thanks Elsa. Hmm. Yeah Well, then let's try this one. Excellent! Excellent? I could listen to another hour. I can never win from these... Where are you getting these from?! These are so good! Books on tape there! And now everybody it is time for the moment you've been waiting for John's tip of the day!

3:16:42 And I do want to remind everybody you can find these tips at tipoftheday.net, but also on noagendafund.com which has a lot of our other staples... I find noagendafund.com to be more complete list. It's also ... well I have nothing against tipoftheday.net, but noagendafund.com definitely has a lot of other stuff our books the movies the TV shows we talk about it's just it's fun It's know agenda fund calm but also tip of the day net and we are all excited I will say this what's missing from from no agenda fund commas too many eggs calm Oh No plug that is just a travesty

3:17:22 Yeah, I think so. Okay So yeah, I got another tip here This is an interesting one Another website called in it's a product is called in paint in paint In the paint like in I and paint but there's the websites actually the inpaint calm Theinpaint.com and this gives you, there's all these... This is probably the best of all these artificial intelligence removal tools so you have a photo and you got your ex-boyfriend or your ex girlfriend in the photo You click on her Boom! She's gone How does that go again? Theinpaint.com No how does it go with the ex girlfriend? BOOM! She's gone Thank you

3:18:14 I don't know if that's gonna work. It might not! But because, I've always wanted one of these for a regular just-a-computer because they have them on phones you know you always take a picture with your phone with the pixel Pixel 6 or Pixel 7 whatever it is and you all look into tap on the person and poof! Yeah disappears well this is another version of that same kind of technology Is it free? Is it free?! How do they do it how do they do this with this AI!? It's all free It's amazing. I can't... Yes, and expect it to disappear one of these days completely. That's right! Everybody there it is your tip for the day! Tipoftheday.net NoAgendaFun.com And sometimes Adam

3:19:05 Created by Dana Burnetti. That's right everybody there you go We are well on time to get ready for the big game the big big big game so excited about the big game The big game will be played and And I will be rooting for the birds! Go, birds! E-G-E-L-E-S-E. Eagles. Yes For those of you who do not want to watch the Super Bowl stick around because coming up next on the stream noagenda.stream trollroom.io if you wanna troll or of course your modern podcast app we got just two good old boys coming up next Two good ol' boyz I think that's Sir Gene one of the two good ol' boyzz and some dude named Ban

3:19:45 And, of course, we have some very relevant end-of-show mixes. We've got David Koechter always comes in with something. Danny Luce is back! Good to have Danny. Yeah, Danny is—I'm glad he's back calming down. He was a little worried about stuff and the world. And also some Chris—Sir Chris Wilson stuck in there. Coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in Fredericksburg in the morning everybody I am Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're at Super Bowl Sunday! The kickoff is at 3.30 they say but it won't be I guarantee it. I'm John C. DuBois We return on Thursday with more media deconstruction right here Remember us at knowagenthedonations.com Until then adios mofos hui hui and such Elon Musk

3:20:40 I gotta say, President Trump is brilliant. We will not stop! We will speak up! We will rise up! What's dangerous is that people who work for USAID are wearing masks to protect themselves from Muslims. This is a fearful dictatorship. We're not gonna have apartheid in America America anymore. Elon Musk has not been elected to anything and who the hell does Musk think he is? He has absolutely no right in shutting down USAID, we cannot allow that! We've got to take it to the streets...

3:21:27 You're a monster. Some suppressive efforts to undermine federal agencies with the help of Elon Musk, his latest victim is the US Agency for International Development or USCID. This is the magic of Steve Jobs. Well no. These guys are literally I'm telling you nobody wants to believe me when I say this but they've sold themselves out to evil forces it creates this magic around them there's nothing you can do about it. Do you mean like black magic? Yeah, black magic. That's why in some cases they have to wear the black turtle neck. They're always wearing black just like this is a signal. It's part of the Yelzabub's rules. Like the same thing with Elizabeth Holmes. It can make you fabulously wealthy but you gotta wear the turtleneck otherwise it doesn't work. Got a Black Magic Elon I've got a Black Magic Elon

3:22:24 Oh God, a black magic Elon. God, a Cybertron I must see! I've got a black magic Elon He's trying to get a undo out of me. Cervical cancer is back! I made my sons get it immediately Because they don't know anything They do not have knowledge And who the hell does Musk think he is? A Nazi nipple baby Not conscious, I get it No no no no, just not conscious We're in the courts In Congress In the streets

3:23:00 streets. They don't know anything, really obvious why anyone would pay for Chad GPT plus at all. I made my son's get it immediately pretending to be outraged they make mistakes oh you want to use our money 20 million on a new sesame street show in Iraq to combat disinformation in Kazakhstan We want, we want, we want. That's the kind of thing that you should get fired from a company if they should boot you out the door. Reduction in the gems with providers who are using NABLA. NABLA is an AI software company. We have to fight this in Congress! We have to fight this in the streets! And it's Elon-Nabla? I made my sons get it immediately.

3:23:45 Oh, not this nabla! I'll shoot you out the door. You don't have thoughts... You don't even know how these things fully function. ...and ran it in the worst way back. I made my sons get it written. Hard time in America anymore! They do not have knowledge. Yes? I'm not seeing that now baby! The cervical cancer is back. Alright we've gotta take to the streets! The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Excellent I could listen to another hour