YouTube TV 4K Streaming Issues, Super Bowl Bandwidth
YouTube TV experienced significant technical difficulties with its 4K feed during the Super Bowl LIX broadcast, resulting in "uh-oh" error messages for subscribers. The failure highlights the limitations of current streaming architecture when handling massive concurrent audiences compared to traditional over-the-air antenna signals. Discussion includes the historical failure of the M-Bone multicast backbone and the rising costs of digital television subscriptions.
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00:00 Tell you, Mr. Producer... Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Sunday February 9th 2025 This is your award-winning Cuba Nation Media Assassination Episode 1737! This is no agenda We're doubling down and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country Right here in FEMA Region Number 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Came from northern Silicon Valley where it's Super Bowl Sunday I'm John C. Dvorak Sports ball sports ball everybody. Hey, everybody's doing everyone is taking their donations and his betting on the game that would be I'll tell you this it's choking a network. It's a Google TV. Yes Oh is just
00:50 So they have a 4k feed for that. I think this may be the first time we've seen 4K for the Super Bowl Is this you mean YouTube TV? I'm sorry, yeah YouTube. Yeah. Yeah, right Yes, that's great because there is actually a Google TV which is something else always It's just a bunch of videos anyway, the YouTube TV which is a substitute for cable. Yeah is choking in its own vomit What are you watching? Are you watching Fox or what are you watching? Well, it's on Fox. The Super Bowl is on Fox and so they have a 4K feed plus the regular feed and the 4k feed won't load it's just choking and it gives your message like oh-oh something went wrong try again Oh! And actually says uh-oh at U H O U UH OH
01:41 I'm watching now, it's okay. I don't have 4k but i have the regular feed Yeah well the 4K is just borked And you pay extra for that? You pay extra for a borked feed But you can just tell Are you an upset consumer? Is that what im hearing here You can tell that this is choking the network. Comcast is probably, you know everything is just being choked out by the Super Bowl interest I'm sure at the beginning of the game would be really bad Yeah It'll fade because we'll talk about the game later and make our predictions Yes And it will should...I doubt if its gonna be one of those close games but it could be
02:22 So people will bail out and then you get the fetal come through this is this whole streaming idea for TV Is a bad idea They'll get it. I mean, hmmm... Because I can turn on the...I can flip over to the antennae Yeah? Quality's just as good if not better. I have an antennae and it works just fine! It does And you yourself is the one who went on about in some post some years back about how well the problem with, you know, the internet is that everything's one-to-one. Yeah for every person you add to your audience it costs you more money though so that's always been the problem but... The whole architecture of Netflix and Amazon and Google is that they have a head, you know they have servers right there sitting connected directly to your connection if it's all done right but even that may be insufficient
03:22 It may be insufficient if you want to change the number, like how many people have... Yes we do. Netflix has a server on the server. Sure! A server on the server and so they have these little outlets of course if you want to watch something obscure it has to go their main office is not everything is on there bring back the M-Bone people The whole thing is a joke. Remember the M-Bone? Yeah, I remember the M-Bone that was another failed attempt Well no because nobody had the gear for the m bone but the M-Bone wasn't it was a good idea at the time It's just it went nowhere you needed to spark suns... Spark workstation
04:03 Yeah, it was the spark. I can't do it with Windows 11! I can't get on the M-Bone... It doesn't work. There's probably five people out there who remember the M-Bone So streaming works when the demand is within a millions of millions of people but if you got to 100 million people or once you go to 4k where you have pretty much multiplies everything by factor 5 in terms of bandwidth necessary Well you know what this is? It changes the way things... The model doesn't work. That's because they're putting all their CapEx expenditure into AI, they should be putting the money into streaming! Because that's a real risk I mean I try not to pay any money to anybody
04:49 What I pay for YouTube TV, what is it up to now? 70 bucks a month. Oh it keeps going up because it costs too much money to do it. They're probably losing money well they're probably not losing money those guys but the point is if you can't... If Google who's the initiator of large-scale systems for search for example and have networking capabilities that most people can only dream of can't manage the 4k stream over a Comcast 800 Megabit line. I remember when we had rabbit ears and life was good Well actually rabbit ears work quite well with H which is high-definition digital television, you know i'm looking at my My feed right now and it's very
