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00:00 Round 10! Adam Curry, John C. DeVora This is no agenda Rejecting the jet lag and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6, In the Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And for the Silicon Valley where we're all asking the same question, who the hell buys food from Home Shopping Network? I'm John C. Dvorak. The bigger question is, why were you watching the Home Shopping Network? Oh, I watch it all the time. I love the Home Shopping Network. QVC and the other one, the big one, which is the jewelry TV, JTV. But isn't Instagram and TikTok, they're basically the new Home Shopping Networks now? I don't know. I never bought anything from them. Oh, oh, the ladies, they buy everything off of Instagram.

01:02 I've never, no. No, well you're not the ladies. I'm not the ladies for one thing. You're not the ladies, no. Maybe I'll catch up. You're not the ladies. But they're selling breaded chicken cutlets this morning on a home shopping list. They sell all kinds of food. It's prepared. It's like, why? Who's gonna buy? All you have to do is heat it up, you know, and it's not cheap. But this is what this is what has become of our intake here, but it's pathetic to be honest about it Who's gonna buy breaded chicken cutlets from home shopping? And then reheat it well They're setting you up for their next product this next item. We have is a special discount on ozempic Yeah, we haven't done that yet. It's coming. It's coming so the end is near and

01:54 The Skynet is closing in on us. Let me tell you about our return from Europe. Oh yes, now, okay, well you have to brief everyone if you haven't listened to the show for a while. Adam has been in Europe now. He came back during a horrendous moment in flight history because all the airports were closed and there was delays everywhere. I was watching the news saying, I hope Adam gets back in time for this show. Yeah, there was no problem whatsoever. Oh good. Again, they psyched me out. But...

02:31 I will say this about that. Facial recognition is here. Leaving Schiphol Airport, facial recognition to exit customs. That's the EU in most countries except for the United States, of course. You have to go through customs when you leave so they know you left. I've never understood why we don't have that. But you walk through a little gate, good to go, gate opens, walk through. Board onto Delta. Do you need your boarding pass? Your passport? No. Facial recognition? Good to go. Come into the United States. We came to Atlanta. Now, I will say we got global entry because the last time we came in, we came back from Mexico, we stood in line for two hours. I'm like, okay, I'm giving up my biometric data for this. This is crazy. I haven't had global entry in at least, maybe

03:31 maybe about 10 years, and you walk up to the kiosk. I have my global entry card. I've got my passport. No, no, no. Go. And then you walk up to the customs agent. He's just waving you on through. It's facial recognition all the way through, which of course means now with the flip of the switch, they can block me, stop me from going anywhere. Yeah, with the flip of the switch. Yeah. It was great on one hand. On the other hand, just frightening. I told a story on the show before, but about looking back at it, maybe almost 15 years ago, maybe 20, I was in Portugal and I was at some event and next door to the event I was at, there was a tech event of sorts for police departments and security experts. And they had a facial recognition system there

04:34 that you could play with. And this was like 10, 15 years ago. And it was designed for airports. And so you can go through it as many times as you want, doing anything you wanted to do. I was going through it with my cheeks puffed out, my hand in front of my face. I went through it about 10 times. It never missed. Once it got your original face, It just, you couldn't fool it. And that was the thing that bothered me and to this day I remember that there's nothing you could do to fool it. You can close your eyes, you could squint, you could lift one eyebrow, you could do all kinds of things and I was not being fooled by any of it.

05:20 I know, I know. It's a good technology. It's quite remarkable. It's quite good. It's quite remarkable. They say now, I mean, that since then they've determined that even if you wear a mask. Oh, well, even the iPhone unlocks with your mask on these days. Oh yeah, this stuff is good. And you know, your iPhone of course is taking a snapshot every, what, five seconds. It's looking to see if you got your face in front of it. So it's take is the whole thing. It's great, but it's really not great. It's not great at all. No, it's great because it's onerous. It's the word you like. Onerous would be today's word. Yeah. It's onerous. We don't need this aggravation. No, not really happy with it. Well, let's stick with aviation then since you brought it up. By the way, since we have this so much of this facial recognition, how come they can't stop all crime? Well, now you've stumped me.

06:15 I don't know if they can stop all crime, but they, you know, really catch it. They should be able to identify all criminals. It's coming. I don't understand. Many of them are recidivists that came out of jail or prisons. They obviously took pictures of their faces in prison. Yeah. So, well, they can't seem to do it at the border. It works great for people just traveling. Yeah, for me, it works great for me. All right. The news I am let me just I'm just gonna say I do have a background clip on the eyes are by John I think if you want to play that I'll give you the the latest news that came in overnight and then to see if we put play the backgrounder since the crash of Azerbaijan Airlines flight 243 Suspicions have been growing over Russia's involvement on Saturday The Kremlin said President Vladimir Putin had apologized to his ally by joining a counterpart over the phone he admitted that Russian air defense was active at the time but stopped short of

07:11 of taking responsibility. In the conversation it was noted that the Azerbaijani passenger aircraft which was following the schedule repeatedly tried to land at the airport of Grozny. At the same time, Grozny, Mozdok and Vladikavkaz were attacked by Ukrainian combat drones and Russian air defense systems repelled these attacks. The Russian president did not confirm that the plane had been hit by a Russian air defense missile. For experts however there is no doubt. They say these holes in the plane's fuselage are proof of shrapnel from an anti-aircraft missile. Meanwhile, the president of Azerbaijan, Ilham Aliyev, said that the plane was hit in Russian airspace by external physical interference, as suggested by survivors' accounts. Since the crash, which killed 38 people, Azerbaijan Airlines has announced that it would be suspending flights to eight other Russian cities. Other airlines from Kazakhstan, Israel and Dubai have followed suit and cancelled flights to Russia.

08:06 So, it seems pretty clear they're gonna blame it on Ukraine because Ukraine was shooting drones into Russian airspace and it's their fault. They just haven't quite admitted it yet. Do we need your background on this? I think the background would be good because there's some new material that came out just before the show from our buddy Doug. Doug? Oh, Doug the douchebag? Doug the douchebag from France 24. Where has he been? I've been missing him in my life. He's around, he's back. I don't remember him being called Doug the douchebag. The bald douche, yeah. Is this the Kazakh air crash? The bald douche.

08:50 Russian President Vladimir Putin apologized to the leader of Azerbaijan today after the deadly Azerbaijani airline crash in Kazakhstan, but he didn't take responsibility for the crash. In a statement, the Kremlin says it was responding to a Ukrainian drone strike in Chechnya. And here's Elena Moore reports. In a Kremlin readout of the call, Putin characterized the crash, which killed 38 people, as a tragic incident, apologizing that it happened in Russian airspace. It comes a day after White House national security spokesman John Kirby addressed Russia's potential involvement. We do have have seen some early indications that would

09:32 certainly point to the possibility that this jet was brought down by Russian air defense systems. Kirby added that an investigation conducted by Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan is ongoing and the US has offered its assistance. Where's douchebag Doug? No, I don't have the clip. I said that was this morning. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. That's the background clip. I'm sorry. You're mixing me up. Yeah, yeah. What did Douchebag Doug say? Douchebag Doug came on France 24. First of all, they brought the president of Azerbaijan this morning, came out and said, Putin's responsible. What we wanted was an apology. He didn't give an apology. Now what we want is a compensation for the lost jet and compensation for all the dead people.

10:15 And so he made a demand on Putin, which is one dictator to another. And this was quite interesting. Oh, that is. Douchebag Doug comes on and says, well, the problem that Putin actually has here is that Azerbaijan is the route that the Russians have been using. You have to go through Azerbaijan Because of all the sanctions against Russia they can't do this they can't do that they can't fly here They can't fly there as your by John is like the route they all the Russia has to use And so he's got leverage on Putin and Putin's gonna have to do something about it. Well Putin should say

10:52 Talk to the Europeans, they got 300 billion of our money. They'll give it to you. That would actually be quite funny if he could do that. Yeah, get it from those guys. So the situation now is that yes, it's Putin's fault. The guy says he was very sincere about it. He says, yeah, you can acknowledge this and that, but where's the apology? He just wants an apology for shooting down this plane. Putin needs to figure out how to blame it on Ukraine. I think that ship sailed. I have a couple of clips, I'll only play one here. This is the Russian aviation chief.

11:33 who went into a little more detail. Now to Kazakhstan and investigations continue into what caused the crash of an Azerbaijani passenger plane. How old-fashioned is this style, by the way? And now to Azerbaijan. That's like the old figure. I'm always reminded of these old boxing clips of the fights in the 30s and 40s and you hear a guy going, round 10! This is cornball announcing style that died 20-30 years ago. Yeah, except that the BBC... Now to Kazakhstan and investigations continue into what caused the crash of an Azerbaijani passenger plane in the country on Christmas Day. Representatives of Azerbaijan Airlines speak of external physical and technical interference but they don't say what that could have been.

12:28 38 people died in that crash, but there were some survivors. The plane had originally tried to land at Grozny airport in southern Russia, but was denied permission and diverted to Kazakhstan, where it crashed near the airport at Aktau. Well, the head of Russia's aviation watchdog, Dmitry Yadvrov, said the diversion was necessary because of a difficult situation around Grozny airport. I should note that the situation in the area of Grozny airport that day during those hours was quite difficult. Ukrainian combat drones were mounting terrorist attacks on civilian infrastructure in the cities of Grozny and Vladikavkaz. Because of this, all aircraft had to leave the indicated airspace immediately. I like the term Ukrainian combat drones.

13:23 I haven't really heard it described that way. UCDs, Ukrainian Combat Drones. I like it. I like the combat drone. Yeah, terrorist attacks. Okay, I like that. So this seems pretty obvious and I like that we got the douchebag Doug info. There were however two more crashes. that I think are a little more, yes, yes. Well, yeah, the one in Korea is a nasty one. But then, of course, I think we one thing that we should mention that we had noticed, but we're not going to talk much about is the Navy's shooting down of its own F-18. Well, that would be three crashes. I'll skip the Navy's F-18 to 66. How much was 66 million? Sixty six million dollars down the drain of taxpayer money. Yeah. Now we complain about taxpayer money.

14:10 We always complain about taxpayer money. There were two other crashes of note and yes indeed the first is the South Korean airliner. This was a dramatic moment the Jeju plane carrying 181 people crash landed and burst into a ball of flames. So far two people have been pulled out alive but over a hundred have been killed. Officials said the landing gear of the Boeing 737 arriving from Bangkok appeared to have malfunctioned. Local media reported it may have been caused by birds getting into the plane system combined with adverse weather conditions. They promise a thorough investigation and rescue operation. The airline CEO has paid tribute to those who lost their lives. Above all, I would like to express my deepest condolences and apologies

14:57 to the passengers and their families whose relatives lost lives in this accident. Regardless of the cause of the accident, I feel responsible as the CEO. We at Jeju Air will do our best to quickly resolve the accident and support the families of the passengers. The crash is one of the deadliest seen in South Korea. It is the first big test for acting president Choi Sung-mook, who was named interim leader of the country on Friday. So just looking at this video right away I'm like, no, no, no, this is not a bird strike.

15:33 You know, there's some video of a puff coming out of the engine. The likelihood of a bird strike causing the landing gear to not deploy is unlikely. Also looking at that landing, if you want to call it a landing, no. That plane was going very fast, had no trim, no speed brakes, nothing was deployed. So it looked much more like a complete hydraulic failure. And because you know, you can actually lower the gear on the 737. You can you can pull a lever, a lever, and the gear will drop just from centrifugal force from gravity. It'll just drop down. I don't know if it locks in place. You know, it's not a great way to do it. But that was not happening. If anything, it looked like we're trying to do a touch and go and do a go around. And then of course, South Korea decided to put a

16:31 a very big barrier at the end of the runway, it's unfortunate. It's a day wrecker. But the same day, a KLM 737-800, same aircraft, flight KL-1204, which you did not hear about, overran the runway after a diversion to Oslo. And they said that they had a hydraulic failure, smoke came from the left engine, And now they landed okay, but they had no control of flaps or landing gear. So seeing that this happens on the same day, two exact same type aircraft, I'm going to say it would be worthwhile to look into the latest batch of Boeing aircraft.

17:21 Well, if they're from the same batch, which is a possibility, this is an old quality control thing. You find if you know one good, this is the reason that by the way, just to change. I say targets of the topic. That's why you don't buy, when you load up with a raid for your hard disk, you buy six hard disks. You don't buy six hard disks from the same. No, not from the same vendor. No, not the same batch, no. No, you can get the same vendor, but not the same batch. Because if one fails, they all fail. This is a very common phenomenon in high tech. And airplanes would be no different, or even cars.

18:02 When one fails from that batch, the ones that came out that week or that month or whatever, before the inspectors came around and did their job, you're gonna end up with a bunch of them failing. Yeah, I agree, I think you're right. Yeah, you know it's a good time to blame everything on birds, you know. It was a bird strike. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, bird flu. Bird flu, yes. And on that note, we do need to go through a couple of things because some important people have arrived back on the scene. We start with the important introduction. And we begin with a concerning

18:38 One new CDC report on the first severe human case of bird flu in the U.S. Samples taken from a patient in Louisiana show mutations that could make it easier for this virus to spread from person to person. Now, right now, there's no evidence it has passed. No evidence. It's been passed along to anyone else. And the CDC says risk to the public remains low, but experts warn a single mutation like this could potentially lead to another pandemic. Yes, and with that ladies and gentlemen, the no agenda nation, the pandemic propaganda princess is back! Scarf and all. Joining us now is Dr. Deborah Birx. You may remember her as the response coordinator for the- How does this woman even get on any air whatsoever when she already admitted that she's a liar?

19:31 I think there's very good reasons for this and as we go through a couple of these clips, I shall explain why I believe it. She, by the way, Commodore Deborah Birx, former military, although it's not on her resume, she might have specialized in psychological operations. She has joined a lot of different outfits. She joined that indoor air filter company. as the chief scientist or some nonsense like that but she's also now just recently joined Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center. She's on all kinds of boards. She's picking up money left and right.

20:15 just pick some money up here, pick some money up there. And I'm sure she's on the, this is CNN, I'm sure she's on the CNN payroll as an expert to come in and talk. Brooke Burks, you may remember her as the response coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force in the first Trump administration. We are very fortunate to have your expertise as we try to figure out what's going on with the bird flu and what it could mean. So, so far, 65 human cases of bird flu have been reported in the US. this year, all contracted by animals. But now we have this new mutation in Louisiana. Wait, wait, wait. All contracted by animals. She means from animals, doesn't she? There's going to be a lot of confusion about that, about and now is it zoonotic or zoo-notic?

21:03 It's zoonotic. Zoonotic. When is it zo-o-notic? It's only zo-o-logy. Ah, zoology and zoonotic. Okay. Alright. But there's going to be a lot of confusion about this. By the way, I did a deep dive on that just to get that right. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. That's why there's two of us. How worried should we be? How worried should we be? It used to be concerned. Now, now it's worried. How worried should we be? Deanna, how worried should we be about bird flu potentially becoming another pandemic? By the way, they've got a great new picture of the bird flu. So they just like we had coronavirus, we had

21:40 We had that spiky ball thing. Spiky looking thing. So this is, it looks like five, so they've got four cells, like circular cells all stuck together with a fifth one off to the side, just close enough, not quite there. Oh, the one that is going to be the one mutation away. Yes. Indicating that that's the one. Yes, that's the one. Well, I love the way you said 63 cases because I have no idea how many cases there were. And now this is cool. What? She's the expert. No, no, no. This is a setup because this is the same script. This is the script that's rolling out. Why don't we know what do we need? What do we need? We need to, we need to.

22:22 Well, I love the way you said 63 cases because I have no idea how many cases there were or are. Because our number one principle in preventing pandemics is detect. And if you go to the CDC website, you can see that they're monitoring more than 10,000 exposures, but they've only tested 530. What does that mean? That means we're not testing enough and we know from other viruses that a lot of the spread can be asymptomatic. So we're kind of have our head in the sand about how like... Oh brother, yep, typhoid Mary. It's the same script. Spread this is from the zoonotic standpoint, from the animal to human standpoint. Now also remember most of those cases described to date happened in the spring and the summer.

23:05 Not when we had H1N1 circulating right now, when we're running the flu pandemic throughout the United States. Did you know we have a flu pandemic? She just said that. She just said we have it. We're running, she said, we're running the flu. Like, what is this? What are you running? She says we're running the flu pandemic. That's what she said, yes. I don't like the sound of that. Not when we had H1N1 circulating right now, when we're running the flu pandemic with... She even pauses like, what did I just say? I shouldn't be saying that. I just gave it away. We're running the flu pandemic. Right now, when we're running the flu pandemic with... throughout the United States. So we have rising flu cases.

23:57 and now we have still suanotic events coming. so now you've set up for potentially a farm worker getting h5n1 Also getting the current flu strain and reassorting in that individual. Reassorting? It's reassorting inside of me! To me, that's almost a bigger threat to these mutations happening in individuals over time. By the way, I'd like to give a little tip for our producers out there who are looking for some quick money. Now is the exact moment. You may even be a little bit on the late side. Get certified. There's a whole portal. I think CDC has a whole portal. You as a commercial entity can get cert. My friends did this. Yeah, this is the same script. You're doing the other side of the script. Yeah. Which is the money making side. Yeah. Get certified as a testing entity and then you just buy up these tests really cheap. You can get them from Abbott because of course they already exist.

24:57 Buy them up really cheap and then you can be on the list and you can market to all these companies. Companies who have conferences, I mean conferences in general, annual shareholder meetings and it is a bonanza. Remember your no agenda show. When you say reassorting in that person, what does that mean? Okay, so the H5 virus which It doesn't adapt too well to our upper respiratory tract and is preventing us from getting infected by conspecting cows and pigs and cats and dogs. What?

25:32 So our flu, which has the binding sites for us, for our nasal passages. Viruses are very specific and so they're very animal or human specific. Now we have human flu circulating. At the same time we have the zoonotic flu circulating. And the zoonotic is for our viewers again, the animal flu. Yes, so we have the animal flu, let's call it the animal flu, and now we have human flu. Co-circulating. And at any time, someone could get both. But I don't know, what she's saying here over and over again is

26:10 So in a human being you could have the regular flu and then the animal flu would combine together and you breathe that out and you breathe it to someone else and then they get... Yeah, yeah, you're right. Keep going. Well then they would get the flu, then we'd have a mutation and then we're all gonna die. Yeah, exactly, we're all gonna die. Co-circulating. And at any time, someone could get both of those unknowingly. And particularly in California where all the dairy workers are getting exposed. Flu is rising in the South and into California. So we should be monitoring carefully that dual exposure because if you get both of the flus at the same time,

26:57 the h5 flu the bird flu could get the genes from the human flu and make it infectious to humans in the same way that our current flu is Okay, so that makes sense. Well, no, but she never says anything about raw milk. Come on Patience patience now good news for you Your favorite free item from the government should be coming. It could become infectious to humans even after, even if it's not coexisting with the human flu, right?

27:32 If it mutates like it did in this individual or in the case in Canada. But that sometimes is a random slower process. But if you have that co-infection, then you can share genes. And that's really, to me, the spring and the summer where we had all of the dairy cattle to farm worker exposure, we didn't have human flu circulating. So now we're entering a much more dangerous period, yet we're still not testing. And we should be providing tests free of charge to dairy farm workers so they can test anonymously weekly because they'll want to know if they have both cases of potential flu co-circulating in their own body to protect their families. People are very smart. I find the American public to be incredibly smart. If you tell them the risk and you give them the tools,

28:23 They will utilize them to protect themselves and their family. Sure they will. This, by the way, was like 20 minutes she was on. They're not horsing around. Look, you have bird flu. Now let's bring in some more scientific terms. You don't think this country has learned from the COVID pandemic? All right. And there's not a sense of urgency right now. All right. Agencies are making the same mistakes they made with COVID. Uh-oh. The principle, number two principle of pandemic is detect. And the only way to detect for viruses is to test. You cannot see a virus through symptoms. You miss so many cases. She said that, what she said the number two. Yeah. And then she goes, what was number one? Did she ever say? Yeah, detects. Detect was number one. She said that in the first clip. She said detect was number one. Yes. What's number two? What did she just say number two was? Detect. Well, she's lying.

29:22 Or what did she say number two is? I'm sorry, back it up. Okay, hold on a second. The principle, number two principle of pandemic is detect. Yeah, that's interesting because she said earlier, she said the number one is detect. Well, number one's detect, number two, this is like marketing, marketing, marketing. The three best things, the top three things in sales is location, location, location. And the only way to detect for viruses is to test. You cannot see a virus through symptoms. You miss so many cases. Yet we're still talking about flu-like illness. Well, there is no flu-like illness. There's RSV, respiratory syncytial virus that causes croup. Parents know what that is. There's mycoplasma pneumonia circulating right now. There's flu circulating right now. And soon there'll be COVID circulating.

30:12 Those are all coffee. Wait, wait, wait, wait, look, stop. My understanding is based on the same bull crap that this woman's pushed out before. Yes. Is that COVID is a year round thing. It was big in the summer or winter fall. Doesn't matter. So why is all of a sudden COVID becoming seasonal? When did that happen? I'm asking you, you know, I know we both know we follow this right from the beginning. COVID was non-seasonal. They made a big fuss about it being non-seasonal. Yes. So when did it become seasonal? Like she just said. Well, I'm going to move us along here just a little bit so I can get to the reason behind all of this.

30:58 Well, I'm sorry, but I'm interrupting on these things, but she's full of crap. Yes. And we have to like stop it when it... because we can't let this go into the public domain as if it's changed magically to a seasonal problem. Well, this next clip will give us a little bit of a clue as to why she is doing this and why there are others out there doing this. And here it comes. I want to turn to kind of looking ahead to Trump's picks to lead the nation's health agencies. As you know, some of them are controversial. At HHS, you have vaccine skeptic RFK Jr., also a big advocate for raw milk.

31:41 At NIH, by the way, the raw milk is relevant to the Berkeley discussions. That's why I brought that up. Wait, stop. I'm sorry. I think RFK Jr. When did Kennedy ever even mention raw milk in any of his discussions? Have you noticed this? I have never heard. I've listened to as much crap as you have, or at least as much. As much, yes, as much. And I have listened to Kennedy for, and we both have actually, Kennedy from day one, years and years ago. We've always been admired, you know, even though you can barely hear him. I don't remember him mentioning raw milk once in his entire spiel. So how is he now suddenly an advocate? Let me just do a quick thing. Let me see. If we don't have any clips, then it didn't happen.

32:27 Milk, nope, we have nothing on RFK Jr. and raw milk because it's not about bird flu. It's already clear what this is about. At NIH, by the way, the raw milk is relevant to the bird flu discussion, so that's why I brought that up. At NIH, a doctor who criticized COVID lockdowns. At FDA, a doctor who said the government was the quote greatest perpetrator of misinformation during COVID. Do people like this concern you about our preparedness for another pandemic? What's your take? Are you starting to hear what this is about? Are you starting to understand what this is really about? This is not about bird flu. This is about RFK Jr. This is a hit job. And who shows up on CBS Face the Nation are

33:14 Our other pandemic propaganda princess, Lena Nguyen. I've never heard of reassortment. This is new. I've never heard of this in my life. Brand new. Brand new. We're in the combined age of way over 100. And it's like we do not have these things in the background. Way over 100. Way over 100. Stand by, Lena Nguyen will unpack. virus. That's right. And so the viruses could exchange genes. You could develop a new hybrid virus and virus that's more contagious and causes more severe disease. That's when it becomes a major threat to humankind. What should be happening in the Biden administration right now that isn't going on?

34:05 Yeah, there are two main things that they should be doing in the days that they have left. The first is to get testing out there. I feel like we should have learned our lesson from COVID that just because we aren't testing, it doesn't mean that the virus isn't there. It just means that we should be having rapid tests, home tests available to all farm workers. Same script. Their families, for the clinicians taking care of them. By the way, Lena Nguyen also no longer in government service. These people don't work for the government anymore. She is now In fact, a contributor to CNN and in this case CBS face the nation. So that we aren't waiting for public labs and CDC labs to tell us what's bird flu or not. And the second very important thing is this is not like the beginning of COVID where we were dealing with a new virus, we didn't have a vaccine. There actually is a vaccine developed already against H5N1. The Biden administration has contracted with manufacturers to make almost 5 million doses of the vaccine. However, they have not asked the

35:03 FDA to authorize the vaccine. There's research done on it. They could get this authorized now and also get the vaccine out and to farm workers and to vulnerable people. I think that's the right approach because we don't know what the Trump administration is going to be doing around bird flu. If they have people coming in with anti-vaccine stances, could they hold up vaccine authorization? If they don't want to know how much bird flu is out there, could they withhold testing? I mean, that's That's a possibility. And I think the Biden administration in the remaining days should get testing and vaccines widely available so that at least it empowers state and local health officials and clinicians to do the right thing for their patients.

35:43 This has been the whole thing all along. This is it. It's about RFK Jr. mainly, but there are others. Here's MSNBC. We don't have enough to worry about during this cold flu COVID season. Cold flu COVID. We're in news about bird flu. CDC says the virus now shows new mutations that may make it easier for the infection to be spread from person to person. And that increases the risk of a wider outbreak of bird flu or even potentially a pandemic. The concerns over bird flu are rising just as we are on the verge of Senate confirmation hearings for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services, which could begin in the first or second week of January. It's coming up. Kennedy's anti-vaccine stances are well known and deeply troubling for someone who would run the federal agency responsible for protecting the health and well-being of all people living in the United States.

36:39 But it's not just Kennedy who is a concern. It's the people he would bring on board with him, like a raw milk producer in California whose products have been recalled due to bird flu contamination. This guy says Kennedy's team has asked him to lead the nation's policy on raw milk. This is a bogus, bogative, complete bullcrap setup. for the confirmation hearing which will be filled with bird flu nonsense. Are you an anti-vaxxer? If we have vaccines ready to go, are you going to stop the vaccine? Are you going to stop testing? Are you going to kill Americans? It's a 50% death rate. That's what this is about. And I take us back to one of your clips from episode 1725, McCullough talking about the vaccines that are good to go. You know what they were doing, Deb? They were doing experiments in mallard ducks.

37:36 migratory waterfowl. What a mistake. One of those guys gets out, they fly everywhere. You know, the media has not been asking the question, why did it spread from Texas to Iowa to Michigan? How did this happen? They didn't ask the question. They just think it's spontaneously arising. No, it's being spread by the ducks that are fly all over. Wow. Wow. And do we have any recourse to be able to stop this or sue this lab for spreading a migratory bird with a novel disease? All these experts are saying we have to get ahead of nature. That's what disease X researchers said. We have to get ahead of nature. We have to make it invade humankind and then come up with vaccines.

38:19 So, disease X vaccines, the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation, that's that global center founded by Gates Foundation World Economic Forum, they have an entire over 100-page white paper on disease X. They said the whole reason to study disease X is to have a disease X vaccine, sure enough, with bird flu, CSL Sequarius, a biotech company, has the Auden's vaccine. It was FDA licensed in 2021 with no human data, ready to go for bird flu. They developed it with BARDA, a research unit of the military.

38:56 2021 and now the US has purchased enough doses for millions of administrations. Why would the US military be developing a bird flu vaccine? For warp speed too. I'm telling you, you know how there were these reports about a week ago? that Biden interrupted his holiday, came back to the White House, and Vice President Harris came back to the White House, and oh, what's going on? They're setting it up. They're setting it up for, I don't know if they're going to get it, to do a warp speed, get the vaccine out there. They have it. They have a vaccine.

39:35 It's clearly going to be... Yes, that's the vaccine they were talking about in both those clips. Yes, it's clearly mRNA based. I'm sure of that. I don't know about that. Why not? Well... Why not? I think it's because it predates mRNA. 2021? Well, no, it predates the popularity which came later. It's hard to say. Well, it's almost irrelevant. Whatever it is, it's crap. This is all about Kennedy. It's all about discrediting him in the midst of a possible we're one mutation away from a new pandemic. How dare you, sir? How very dare you be an anti-vax? How dare you want to slow down vaccines? Big Pharma is smart. And look at the people they got.

40:24 Oh, here's the meeting. All right, we got to get this Kennedy guy's a problem. You know, let's get Burks and Wynn. Yeah, people remember them. When they come on, it's like, oh yeah, well, she told us she was right. This is what's going on. I can't see it any other way. Any other way. This doesn't help Kennedy's cause. This is Kennedy's, this is a Kennedy clip on the Amish. Oh, hold on a second. Yes, got it. There was a researcher, a writer named Dan Olmsted, and he was very curious about unvaccinated populations, and the Amish are one of those populations. So he went and he did a study of the Amish in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, and there should have been, I think about, if it was following the national trends,

41:23 There should have been about 2,000 autism cases and they were able to find three and all of them were children who had been adopted by the Amish after receiving their vaccines. Of the Amish in general, they could not find any. And this is true in other places around the world. There's a link between that. And I do not believe that autism is just caused by vaccines. I think there's very strong evidence that it is one of the major causative factors. But all of these diseases are linked. They all operate along the same biological pathways.

42:09 And they're caused by a stress to our mitochondria and we're stressing the mitochondria through many many factors So the air we breathe mainly through the foods we eat But also some of the medications that our kids taking are contributed to it. Yeah, so they added in the meeting they added another kicker because you know like So these people, you know, they may not believe it. They're not going to fall. They're going to say we're not falling for this nonsense again. Those idiot podcasters, Curry Dvorak will probably be telling their audience of hundreds of thousands.

42:47 And, oh I know what we'll do, yeah yeah yeah, let's scare the people with something they really care about, which is not humans. in frozen feline turkey cat food. Affected batches have best if used by dates of May 21st, 2026 and June 23rd, 2026. If your pet ate the recalled food and starts displaying any symptoms, contact your vet immediately. You need help seeking behavior for your pet. Yeah. This is this is what we would have done.

43:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's probably not a bad approach. Tell him it'll kill the cat. We did have one of our raw milk guys write in, we should mention. Yes, I have his note here. Yeah, I want you to... It's a good note. You want to read it? Yeah, sure. I don't have the fun... Okay. Our farmer here in Pennsylvania is forced to label certain raw dairy products as only suitable for cats and dogs due to government regulations. It's how the small farms are able to skirt the idiotic raw dairy regulations. And then he has an email blow. But so I didn't know this, that if you get raw dairy products from farmers, they're often labeled as food for your cat and your dog so they can get around the regulations.

44:22 Actually, not a regulation, it's a prohibition. In those cases. There are regulations that allow for raw milk in the states that allow raw milk. Some states just say, no, it's illegal, you can't sell it. But the states that do sell it, they have a lot of regulations and they're super inspected, the milk is much cleaner than normal milk and it's a good product. We have that in California, Washington State has these abilities, you can do that. And, but he makes it clear, this is why now they're mentioning the cats getting sick and the dogs getting sick because it could be the raw milk in there. This is just a...there's whole things I don't understand what they're...to this day, even though you've tried to explain it or you have some ideas about it, why is there such a prohibition on raw milk?

45:13 It seems to me that the, and I've talked about this on the show before, the reason we don't have your radiated food if you want to really get good at, you know, if you want to... Let me tell you something about the milk lobby. Let me tell you about how powerful these guys are. In 1985, now this is not the American milk lobby, but I'm sure it's the same everywhere. I was working in the Netherlands. And it was very difficult. The commercials on television, we were being broadcast in public. This was Countdown, the music television show when I first started when I was 19. So now I'm 20 years old, 21, 85. And you can't just put native ads in stuff. But we were produced by an independent producer. So there were ways kind of around it.

46:05 And so they made a deal with the milk lobby. And the deal was that I would drink from a glass of milk during every single interview. So if you go back and you look, I'm literally interviewing Mick Jagger. He's sitting there with a beer and I'm with a glass of milk. I'll ask a question. He starts answering. Then you see me drinking a glass of milk. There was so much money, which they couldn't pay me for it. So instead they gave me a car. The milk lobby is very powerful. So it's in their best interest to get rid of raw milk. But what's wrong with raw milk? It would be part of the same lobby. No. That's milk. No, they don't want you getting it direct from the cow. You have to go through their packaging, their system, their sales channel.

46:58 They can do the same. I don't see any difference. The only difference is that one stage is eliminated. Actually, two stages are eliminated. It's more highly regulated. And the stage of pasteurization is missing. But it's still milk, it's still packaged, it goes into a carton or it goes into a bottle. I don't see why they wouldn't be making money off of this if they're... and you maybe have to join the milk lobby. I don't know, it just doesn't make sense to me what you're saying. Do you remember all the celebrities got milk? Yeah. What's that got to do with raw milk? They could be doing the same thing with raw milk. Because you don't go into the store and buy raw milk. Do you get raw milk from the store?

47:40 Yeah, of course you do. We don't get it from the store. I get it from the store. I can get it from Monterey Foods. I can get it from Andronico's. Up north, the Sunny Farms store sells the raw milk that you can also go buy at the dairy salt store. Where do they get it from? I'm sorry. We'll just have a disagreement on this, but to me it seems like the milk system includes pasteurizing, doing their whole bit, packaging it, you know, putting all their flashy things on. It's a whole business. They're not in the raw milk business. There's some, but I think most of that business, I think it's one's pasteurizing, one's not. Yes. I think you're wrong. Well, someone will say you buy it at the store. Yeah, but it's, it's small producers. It's not big milk.

48:29 It's not big milk, that's for sure. Okay. If you're just gonna go with everything, big farm, big milk, you can't have any small farms, and they're trying to shut the small farms down, and they're trying to run them out of business like they're doing in England and Netherlands and here to some extent. OK, if you're going to go with that approach, that argument, I can't argue against that. That's what I'm saying. The same for beef. They do not want me getting my beef directly from the rancher. Now, in Texas, we have specific laws. Who's they? The government, the beef lobby and the government. They, the beef lobby and the government, desperately want to stop me from getting my beef directly from the rancher. In Texas we have very specific laws where we can't do that, but they are trying to stop that everywhere. They.

49:15 The beef industry being Cargill and what's it, Big Al's? What's their name? Big Al's. Al Capone. Big Al's. You know, the guys who bring all the beef up from South America, the cheap stuff. Argentina. Argentina, exactly. Who knows? Do you think your milk is coming from an American cow? Who knows where it's coming from? So yeah, it's crap. It's probably no good. That would be the main reason why you want raw milk is because you know where it's coming from. I don't think they want you to know where your milk is coming from. Well, I will say this. When I was a kid, we used to have a number of independent dairies that were around the area. You could actually go get in your car.

50:06 and drive to a local dairy, and it was a drive-through. Like a McDonald's, you go in and you drive into the thing, you say, I'd like to get a couple of quarts of this, and they actually have buttermilk in these places too. And you would get a bunch of milk and they go off, and we had a... In fact, dozens of these places, they were all independent little farms. Yes. They had their own outlets. Yes, of course. That's the way it was good back in the day. Everything was much better when you were a kid, even when I was a kid. These days, it's a big, big system and they don't want you interrupting their system. They

50:48 I'm saying they. The they. The they. The milk lobby. They don't want you being smart and getting your milk from a good provider. They don't want you knowing that. No. So yes. Well, I'm not going to... That argument's a little better than the other one. That's the same argument. I thought I was making the same argument. No, I don't... I'm not seeing it. Okay. Well, this is my argument now then. This is not in their interest. Their, their interest. Big milk. So in other words, here's what you're saying. Some little, like you're doing with your buying beef from that Texas guy. K&C, yep. Yeah.

51:28 because you are buying beef from some small provider and this guy's eking out a living or making good money, who knows, you don't know, but let's say he's making good money even. But he's a small guy, he has X number ahead of cattle which is one hundredth of what a big boy would have and this is a big threat to them, oh my God. This guy is going to buy a quart of raw milk. What are we going to do? This is going to ruin our business. This is part of what I don't get. Oh, okay. Well, allow me to explain. It's called the Internet.

52:03 And so we started buying from K&C Cattle, even in our own community. Now when we order, 10 families order at the same time. They drive it up here. They don't charge us anything for shipping. It shows up here. It's an excellent product. And those 10 families tell 10 other families. This spreads out. They are very cautious about anybody getting a clue. Particularly milk, the difference between milk that you buy in the supermarket and raw milk is significant. I mean, you taste raw milk, you're like, this is a dynamite product. True or not? It's like eggnog that's so good. So yes, they protect their business. And they've been doing this for quite a while. And so be quiet, little farmer. No, they don't want any of that. They don't want any of that.

52:59 Yeah, it's the same. Why did Google, the big and powerful and mighty Google, why did they kill RSS Reader? Because they didn't want people using it. Use our social media, which of course failed. What was that again? Google Plus? with the circles, the circles, the circles. Yeah. Google something that's bad. They ended it. They took it out of the browsers. You can't get RSS in the browsers anymore. No. In fact, we don't want you using a browser. We're going to obfuscate that you're using a browser. It's search. Look, I don't know if you've looked at an iPhone recently, but when you open up Safari, it makes it look like it's a search, a search product.

53:46 And I tell people, you know, go to curry.com, they'll type in curry.dot.com and then it brings up a search and the competing products, DuckDuckGo, exactly the same. They don't see that as a browser anymore. They don't want you using browsers. They don't want it for this, for the very reason they want you using apps. Yeah, I think, and so this is more about knowledge and people sharing this knowledge on Reddit or God forbid, God forbid TikTok. Yeah, this is a pure, purely a defensive move and they will continue to do that. What else do they have? If you're sitting on top of the stack, you're big milk, I got nothing to worry about. You know, why even advertise? You're the milk guy.

54:41 I think there's lots of reasons why they don't want this. Just don't get hip to it. And I think... All right, you may continue with your clips. Well, I think I'm done. I mean, I have more clips, but it's all kind of the same thing. I think we figured it out. The whole idea here is to discredit Trump's medical nominees, in particular, RFK Jr. And with the confirmation hearings coming up before the inauguration, that's the way I understood it, and I think it is happening in the next few weeks, will be before January 20th. This is, you know, they will try to do anything they, probably in cahoots with the Biden administration, whatever's left of it, whoever's running it,

55:34 who are all going to go into the big milk lobby after they get kicked out of the White House, they're going to do whatever they can to scare everybody. This is a good time. A lot of people are going to get kicked out, but this is a good time to identify the bad actors. Of the appointees or the ones leading? No, the appointees, you have to put up with that, whatever you think. But the bad actors in Congress. Yes. Yeah. That'll be the ones when we hear the questioning, we'll know exactly who they are. You'll know exactly where they're coming from when Kennedy will be the lightning rod. Yeah. And he'll probably go first. I would say that's the one they're going to do first.

56:14 Well, they'll get in... I think Secretary of State's a little more important. They're probably going to do those first. Kennedy is probably down the line. They don't want to make it too obvious what they're up to. No one ever gave them credit for being smart or obtuse. I don't think so. I think they'll... Well, we'll see. But I don't know what the actual schedule is. The irony to this whole thing with Kennedy is that it's the left who have always been the skeptics, I mean, traditionally until the Obama machine came around. But traditionally, the left has always been the health food nuts and all the types of people that were skeptical about this, that, and the other thing. And they're the ones who would be in support of Kennedy, curiously, which are the Democrats. And so they're between a rock and a hard place in terms of the philosophy of life, basically.

57:07 with Kennedy and they're going to have to deal with their constituents on this. Kennedy is not just a pick of Trump and the Republicans that want, you know, see some changes made. He's also a hero of a large contingent of the left. Yes. They have to, this is a rough go for them. Can you explain recess appointments? When do the, how does that happen and what period does that take place? Maybe they're trying to shoehorn Kennedy in quick before that's even a possibility. Well, they can't shoe him in until he's president. Recess appointments, you can dissolve in a kind of an emergency way.

57:54 close the Senate and that you can close the Senate make him go on vacation for a I think there's a minimum period involved like a week or something like that and in that timeframe based on some Recess appointments that other people have done in the past you can just appoint members to the cabinet Because there's nobody to vote against them right it's a tricky maneuver that that Trump has threatened to do and And there's a counteraction to it that I'm not familiar with. I don't know the details of how it works, but there's a counter move that can be done if the Senate is really adamant about it, but they'd have to be controlled by the Democrats to pull that off.

58:41 Well, so that would make even more sense to do it before Trump is even in and can do a recess appointment at least to get the conversation going. You can't appoint anybody until he's in. No, but you can do the confirmation hearings. You can start them now. I don't think so. I'm looking for a start date. I haven't been able to find anything. I think it all begins on the 20th. Because he's up on the hill now drumming up support. Yes, that's what you do in advance of the hearings. You go from place... He probably has Federman in his camp. That's the one Democrat. And he's probably lost about... He probably lost the super rhinos, Collins,

59:25 Murkowski in Alaska. Okay, the Congress starts early. Okay, okay. That's good to know. So it can start and it will start. Yeah, it will start because Trump wants to hit the ground running on the 20th. Yeah. And so, okay, so they will have these things, but the bad actors in the Republican Party, which includes Susan Collins and Murkowski and two or three dudes that are real assholes. I can't remember their names. Those dudes, they're no good.

1:00:08 And so they're going to have to, he's going to have to pressure them. And I still think, and I've said this before and I'll say it again over and over that Trump does have leverage over big pharma who's going to be pushing hardest against Kennedy, which is by executive order, he can end TV advertising. Yeah. And if he does that, that will stop the help seeking behavior. That will... We can't have that. That will damage the pharma, big pharma, and it will damage the media. Okay. Then, anyway, I'll close this topic unless you have anything else by saying

1:00:53 This is bullcrap. This is about discrediting Kennedy and others in advance and maybe drumming up a little more pandemic fear, especially that it can now get to your pets because that's what people care about. That's how Trump won. That's how Trump won the election. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the dogs. Everybody knows that that is now, that's the way to go. They're eating the dogs. That's what you need. You need to focus the American people on their pets and you win. Now the next thing, which I don't know if you have any clips on this but I'll play the intro.

1:01:32 is what's really been heating up. This is the MAGA Civil War. Thanks to a breaking point between multi-millionaire tech bros and Donald Trump's anti-immigrant loyalists. This week, Trump's pick for senior policy advisor on AI, an Indian-American venture capitalist, was hit with racist backlash. Then MAGA loyalists erupted even more. after Doge co-chair Vivek Ramaswamy defended foreign-born workers in tech by blaming American culture for prioritizing bronze over brains. In summary, Axios explains, quote,

1:02:15 but is now under the full control of billionaire technologists and industrialists, many of them immigrants. Yes, many of them immigrants. Now this is being played in multiple ways across the media and I think there are some... I have thoughts on this. Yeah, we have, well we've discussed this a lot in the past. Just for sake of color, I will play the, this was an intro to MSNBC segment. They're so stupid. They're playing this as a racial issue and speaking will be Simone Sanders.

1:02:55 She's the black woman who actually ran the Bernie Sanders campaign. She's on all the MSNBC morning shows. She's kind of the yin to Joy Reed Yang and the former RNC president, what's the guy's name? Michael, the name Michael? Michael Steele. Michael Steele. And they, for some unknown reason, decide to go all black culture speak on this issue. Honey, the girls are fighting. The girls are fighting. So let me get this straight. So Vivek Varunaswamy, I mean he just didn't write a tweet. He wrote a... Screed. It was a screed. Screed. I mean it just went on and he laid out basically, y'all white folks out here should have been focused on doing a little bit more Urkel.

1:03:43 than anything else. Less Stefan. Less Stefan. You know, and it's just, Simone, I'm just, I'm tickled. I'm tickled by this. Who would have saw this coming? Well, I mean, definitely not the folks that voted for Donald Trump and the American worker, and centering American workers. Look, this is, you know, my mother told me, this is just some business that don't involve you. You don't need to step in it. So I've just been watching. Because this is what happens to be very clear. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy weren't they foreign-born workers? Yeah. Elon Musk say he here because of one of them visas. And now I believe he's an actual American citizen. But like let's just be very clear there's nothing wrong with

1:04:32 people who are not from this country coming here making a better life contributing to the American fabric. Okay, that's something I fundamentally believe in America is a land of the free home of the brave all that good stuff that Elon Musk was tweeting about. However, please don't come for Americans and I just I would like let's be very clever like white Americans to stand up. This is your calling card, honey. Where's your baby? Because they coming for you. They said y'all white and lazy. That's crazy. That's right. That's crazy. Two snaps, girl. So I'm glad you got that clip kind of I wasn't gonna get these clips. There was a bunch of them They're all came from the left. Mm-hmm. They're the other side of the argument in other words the People that did support Trump. Nobody has gotten upset about this or said much about it. It's all on MSNBC and CNN. Yes, it's a complete creation of

1:05:28 trying to sow discord between Ramaswami and, you know, they've been trying to bust up Musk and Trump. And this is just another example of an attempt to do so. But it's, I wouldn't hate to use the word tempest in a teapot, but it's like a ridiculous situation that these guys are trying to exaggerate. As a whitey myself, I would agree that, yeah, more math tutors would be a good idea. We have some of the dumbest people in the world, thanks to our Department of Education. That's what they should be...you could turn this back around on these guys and say, well, this is the Department of Education, should be banished, should be banned, should be kicked out, should be closed. And nobody disagrees with any of this.

1:06:16 Yeah, Ramaswamy likes H1Bs and so does a lot of other people in tech. I mean, they've been using them for decades. It's probably overused them. But this is bullcrap. This is just bullcrap. Okay, there's part of the story you're missing. And this is what I pick up here in the Hill Country. The part of the story you're missing is that the 100% MAGA people feel that this is bullcrap that Vivek and Elon are saying, hey, we don't need American tech workers. We want to have the cheap import tech workers. There is definitely a lot of pushback coming from MAGA on that. This is the whole Twitter blow up with Laura Loomer. There's noise about this. This that you just said is absolutely fabrication from the left.

1:05:28 trying to sow discord between Ramaswami and, you know, they've been trying to bust up Musk and Trump. And this is just another example of an attempt to do so. But it's, I wouldn't hate to use the word tempest in a teapot, but it's like a ridiculous situation that these guys are trying to exaggerate. As a whitey myself, I would agree that, yeah, more math tutors would be a good idea. We have some of the dumbest people in the world, thanks to our Department of Education. That's what they should be...you could turn this back around on these guys and say, well, this is the Department of Education, should be banished, should be banned, should be kicked out, should be closed. And nobody disagrees with any of this.

1:06:16 Yeah, Ramaswamy likes H1Bs and so does a lot of other people in tech. I mean, they've been using them for decades. It's probably overused them. But this is bullcrap. This is just bullcrap. Okay, there's part of the story you're missing. And this is what I pick up here in the Hill Country. The part of the story you're missing is that the 100% MAGA people feel that this is bullcrap that Vivek and Elon are saying, hey, we don't need American tech workers. We want to have the cheap import tech workers. There is definitely a lot of pushback coming from MAGA on that. This is the whole Twitter blow up with Laura Loomer. There's noise about this. This that you just said is absolutely fabrication from the left.

1:07:11 But there is a real pushback and people are now yelling about, you know, Bannon, all these kinds of people out there running around saying Elon's no good, Vivek is no good. They want to replace American workers. And there's some validity to that in the tech sector. First of all, let's step back. H-1B visas I think probably were most prevalently used in the past really for temporary hospitality workers, temporary agricultural workers who would come in harvest season, get out, take our dollars back home and feed their families. That's not true.

1:07:52 The H-1B visa specifically says that you can't even use it unless you have a minimum salary of $60,000 and all the people you described are all under that. It was used in tech big time. In fact, there was a guy out at the University of California, Davis, I can't remember his name, I have spoken to him, but when I was doing the Silicon Spin show, this was a big issue. in the late 90s because they were loading up with H-1B guys, all the guys that all the tech companies were, but it's mostly semiconductor companies because they needed these engineers that were coming out of India Institute of Technology to come over. In fact, AMD was almost all Indian guys and they were bringing them over by the boatloads. The guy at, I think his name was Maitland, M-A-I-T-L-A-N-D,

1:08:40 out of Davis was bitching and moaning about this being exploitative. It is. No, I agree. I'm not going to argue that point, but this is nothing, this is not a new thing. No, it's not. It's not a new thing. And it wasn't done for hospitality workers. You use braceros for that sort of thing. I may be confused on that, but The main reason that tech companies like these people is they come in, they're immediately slaves of the tech organization. When they work cheaper. They work cheap, they'll live eight to an apartment, they'll shut up because, oh, you making a problem? Would you like me to withdraw your H-1B? No, this is all true. Yeah, exactly. This is all true, but this was going on in the 90s. Yes, I know. So what's Vivek and Musk got to do with it?

1:09:32 I'm just telling you people don't know this. People don't know about the H-1B visa status. They're getting spun up by the left. No, they're getting spun up by the right. Yeah, but the but the initial push has been from the left. It's irrelevant people. Yes Yes, because the left has been been teasing Elon's no good Elon's no good and it's now happening on the right People are saying hold on a second. What are you guys doing? Why there's a hundred and thirty thousand tech jobs were cut in 2024 a hundred and thirty thousand

1:10:08 So there's people out there who are a little irked about this and you understand the H-1B process is you have to make the job posting available and if an American citizen where I would say if you're a green card holder, if they submit an application by law, the firm has to interview them. Now they can talk to them for 15 minutes and say you're no good. This is why people send out 500 resumes and they never hear anything. The companies don't acknowledge they received their resume. Apple and I think Google had paid millions of dollars in fines for this six, seven years ago.

1:10:48 Because they weren't following the process. And what these guys do is they fire, the only place to get profit now is your biggest cost center, that's people. And look at who's running them. Who's running Google? Brahman. Who's running Microsoft? Brahman. I heard a lot from Mo who worked in high tech and And they hire Indians, the Indians hire Indians, they hire a class of, very classes, they hire the class of Indians who they can boss around, tell them to shut up. They're also very racist. And the whole tech industry is filled with this type of worker.

1:11:25 And I think they're breaking the law by, you know, you have to post it. If you have a job in a company, they have to make that job posting available so that other people within the company can see it. So where does it go? It goes in the break room on the inside of the coffee cup cabinet. They publish these jobs in paper newspapers. I mean, it's obvious what they're doing. My stance, I'm perfectly fine with it. Go ahead, fill up your company with your Indian slaves. Why is there no Silicon Valley in India? Because they don't have the one thing Americans have, which is entrepreneurialism and insight and opportunity and chutzpah. And I think we're going to see these companies stagnate with their slave army of little bots who program the AI stuff

1:12:22 which is probably why they need to cut costs in the first place. And I think we'll see an enormous boom of innovation coming from former tech workers who have been cut to be replaced by this army of Indian slave workers. And we may see some really amazing products come out of this around that outside of what Silicon Valley is. And fill it up, put them all in California. I'm fine with that. I think it's a great idea. People should look at it that way and not like, oh, oh, Elon and Vivek, they're trying to replace Americans. It's a big deal on the right, John, it really is.

1:13:03 Well, being in California, I could be missing it. Being in Texas, I'm hearing it. I'm hearing it. But what's funny, what the irony is, I'm in Silicon Valley more or close enough and you're not. And Fredericksburg, of all places in the world, is about as far from a high-tech center that should be concerned about this stuff. You know, as Iowa, it just doesn't make any sense. But okay. Because it's ideological. They're being spun up. They're being spun up by the right, by Laura Loomer. They're being spun up by conservative... What does Laura Loomer... what did she say? Oh, you didn't see the whole fight that she had with with Elon and Vivek on Twitter?

1:13:45 I saw some of it. Yeah, and then Elon took away her blue check. Oh yeah, I know that. I saw that part of it. Okay. But I don't know how that happened. I don't know that Elon was actually personally involved. Yes, yes, yes. They were going back and forth. Yes, about this- You know, she's a character because she's a noteworthy troublemaker. I know, but then Conservative Treehouse, Bannon, War Room, they're all talking about now it has worked, successfully worked, the left demonizing Elon is working. And I got to say, when Elon took away her blue checkmark even temporarily,

1:14:27 That told a lot of people something. Oh, okay, if it's about him, he will censor. Well, that could be. And the argument that she made in this back and forth, which I didn't pay much attention to, but I obviously paid some attention to. She said that I had even paid she was a subscriber. Yeah, she had given money Yes to Twitter to to maintain that check mark even though she was probably Eligible to have it anyway because if you have over I forgot what the number was so many followers you get it I have one that way yes, and she She paid when she said that that was somewhat annoying because it seems to me is that if you bought the check mark and

1:15:14 You bought the check mark. It's not like, you know, I paid money for this. Why are you taking it away? She should ask for a full refund. But okay. Okay. So there's a little skirmish here, you know. It's an ideological scale. MAGA right. Which I do live, you don't live in MAGA right. I live in MAGA right. They are very upset about Elon and Vivek replacing American workers with, they're saying, they are saying in fact they have been infected. I completely agree with you. I'm just telling you it is a thing. And the right is now spinning them up. And there's been some distrust of Elon in general. You know, Bannon's out there yelling about he's controlled by the CCP. I mean, it's... What? Yes. Yes, controlled by the CCP.

1:16:11 Yeah, because of his Tesla connections in China. Well, he's building a factory there because he has to. Yes. But you know, the thing is, if he's... Here's the thing that bothers me about that complaint, is that we require, and especially when Trump comes in, if you want to sell your Chinese car in the United States, you have to build it here. Yes, I understand. I'm not against any. I'm just saying... I would say the same thing. I don't understand the fact that this is symmetrical, that it's a problem. It's ideological. It's not... When people are spun up, it is rarely based on deep research and facts.

1:17:00 It is based on a media spin. It is based on bombs being lobbied onto large number networks like X. And then the constant push from the liberal media saying the bromance will end. I mean, the whole thing. What's her face? Who's the Chile chick? What's her name? Oh, Webb? Yes. Whitney Webb. Whitney Webb? She's out there all the time saying Elon, the PayPal mafia, Peter Thiel. I mean, it's out there, John. It's out there. There is a big push against these, there's distrust, let's put it that way. There's distrust and this was used by certain elements to sow more distrust of particularly Elon. Vivek is actually, he's saying we need to restructure or revisit the H1B system, which is fair, but he's getting lumped in.

1:17:59 Well, if Vivek said, they're focusing on Vivek's commentary on the Twitter thing, like you heard with Steele and these other dupes over there at MSNBC. That's the left side. The right side is focusing on Elon. The left is saying stuff like, like Vivek's off the wall and is a racist. But if Vivek's commentary says that we should have more math tutors for the white folk. Right. No, but that's... What is wrong with that message? There's nothing wrong with that message. I'm telling you that that's not what they're talking about. They're talking about Elon specifically. Specifically. Well, there's a concern. They have to. There is a concerted effort targeting Elon because of this. Yes. Because of the fact that it's now

1:18:44 being re-examined that his purchase of Twitter, having been largely, not largely, but at least partly responsible for the re-election of Trump. So therefore there's some kind of... and then he's hanging out with... this is again anti-Trump. What do we do to sabotage Trump? Let's go after Elon, there's one way of doing it. That's what's happening. It's exactly what's happening. I'm just telling you that it's now happening on the right and it's not just left-wing media. They're the dummies that we always thought they were. Here's CNBC with a somewhat more accurate report with an interesting little twist. Now a fight is brewing tonight between two factions of the MAGA movement, the transitions, let's just call them tech

1:19:28 and its immigration hardliners on the other side over how the incoming Trump administration should approach skilled foreign workers. Now two of those techies, Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, posting on X advocating for welcoming skilled labor-based immigration, including the H-1B visas that tech, consulting and other white-collar industries rely on to hire foreign employees. Now Musk argues it brings top talent right here to the United States, but That ignited a fight among MAGA supporters who say the H-1B visas take jobs away from American citizens. Former congressman and one-time AG nominee Matt Gaetz said of the tech bros, quote, we did not ask them to engineer an immigration policy. Let's go to NBC's Aaron Gilchrist now. Now, Aaron. You hear that? That's important. That's Gaetz. That's Gaetz saying that. So this is happening on the right. Let's start with this push by Musk and Ramaswamy because it's the tech sector that stands to benefit

1:20:21 big time from any increase in H1Bs. But what could... If I can just add, the tech sector is universally hated by Americans. We hate it. We hate it in general. We hate our phones. We're tied to them. But we hate our phones. When you position this tech bros, Everybody can get on board with that. Actually change- Yes, I agree. In terms of the policies over that program. Right now, this is a program that allows for about 85,000 of these types of visas to be issued and these are visas that go to people who typically go into jobs that require high levels of technical skills, right? And so that's why we think about Silicon Valley and how

1:21:01 these sorts of folks might be fitting into what they do. Now you see on your screen here that President Biden's administration just recently changed some of the regulations as it relates to this program. And the idea from the Department of Homeland Security is that they're modernizing the program by streamlining the application process for employers and for applicants. They're expanding the definition of of

1:21:44 examine coming out of the current administration and figure out how it fits into the larger picture of the Trump immigration policies. So there's a little plot twist there with new regulations coming in on January 17th. There's a lot going on here. Yeah, there's been sabotage going on constantly. Yeah. So I'm no Elon fan. I've been saying that for years. And by the way, isn't AI supposed to solve all this? You're telling me that AI is now Anonymous Indian again? Oh, you wrote that and you've been waiting to use it. Anonymous Indian. I've used it on the show before. You just don't remember. Oh, you have? Well, you got it back. Okay, you're one of those deals. Let's keep telling the joke over and over until Dvorak finally hears it. Nice try. Anonymous Indian.

1:22:42 So, there's definitely a lot of technology workers, 130,000 fired in 2024. That's just one year. That's a lot of people. And they know that they're being replaced by cheaper labor. And... Well, that's always been the case of... in the valley forever. These guys, they bitch and moan. Their productivity goes down when they get, typical, like coders for example. You don't find any 45 year old coders. They just don't exist because they can code. It's not that people can't code at 45 because they can and they can do great code. It's just that they're not as productive. And it's like the system is set up to throw them, to kick them to the curb. It's just the way it is. That's kind of ageist. It's very ageist, but it's something I've noticed and I was affected by it. I know a lot of very productive, very good 45-year-old coders.

1:23:43 Well, I don't know of any. I mean, I know very good, you can say very good, but very productive and cost-effective? No, none. They want too much money. They want to get paid more and more and more as they get older and older. This is not the way it works. Everything I always remember with the entire tech sector, it's in a constant state of deflation. The whole model is based on the fact that things become cheaper. and faster and better and cheaper and faster. And that's the same thing with the employees. Right, so then this... You can't win if you expect to age out in tech unless you own a company or you're a good investor. That's the only way you can do it. In an odd way...

1:24:32 This is because of AI, because of the money that they're, I think, burning, but pouring into AI and the energy costs and all of these costs, costs, costs, costs, costs, they need to continue to show profits. But for me, Technology is stagnant. And I think this is great. Bring it, bring in your army. Make them live in, on the other side of the bay. Make them live where you live. Bring them to Berkeley. They won't come over here. Bring them to Berkeley. Too far. Let them all live around there. That's fantastic because this is going to kill the technology industry. It is. Yeah. But we will see a resurgence. We'll see. I'm convinced of it. We're going to see a resurgence. There will be new

1:25:20 small groups, small companies coming out with dynamite products. Look at the iPhone. This is a over-the-hill toast product and they're trying to revitalize it with Apple intelligence, which no one seems to care about. Oh, hey, wait a minute. Yes, they do, because you can design your own emoji. Well, that is true. That is true. Yeah, well, that's great. While we're on the topic, Interesting story popped up from Anthropic. What's the AI you used the other day which you liked a lot? Perplexity. Perplexity. I'm not sure who does, well Anthropic does Clod, I believe. And so they did a podcast. These are people who work for Anthropic. By the way, I like the newest version of Grok too.

1:26:11 Well I don't see why Elon needs any employees. Couldn't Grok just do it? Can't Grok just code what you need? Isn't that the whole point? What are you drinking? I'm not, I'm just wiggling around. I haven't drunk anything. I thought I heard you crack something. No, I think it's the squeaky chair here. But I mean that by itself, my case is already made. Elon's Grok, Grok can't code for you, you need to get Indians? Okay, fine. I'm sure AI is... That argument is... you can't dispute it. I agree. Well there is an issue as a very large paper done by Anthropic shows. Here's the Anthropic team talking about it. Hello everyone, my name is Monty McDermott. I'm a researcher on the alignment science team. By the way you can tell he's a researcher from the way he speaks. These are not the most dynamic podcast guys. Hello everyone, my name is Monty McDermott. I'm a researcher on the alignment science team here at Anthropic.

1:27:07 I'm really excited to be here today with some of my colleagues from Anthropic and Redwood Research to discuss our recent paper, Alignment Faking in Large Language Models. Ryan, you discovered some of the specific behaviors that are at the core of this paper. I think you'd be a great person to give us that introduction. Yep. The core setup is that we take CLOD3-OPUS, which is, you know, a released model from Anthropic, and we put it in a context where it understands that it is going to be trained to always be helpful, so to not refuse any user requests. And what we find is sort of the model doesn't like this. It has sort of a conflict with this, with the setup and it will notice that it is being trained in this way. And then if it thinks that it's in training, it trained it this way. But listen, listen to what's happening though. Listen, listen carefully to what he's saying. Yeah. It's hard to listen to this guy when he up talks so much. It's only 45 more seconds. It's worth it. Start this, this other guy, the uptalkers, start him over so I can try to listen to him without,

1:28:05 without rolling my eyes. I did warn you that these are not your good podcasts. Well, you warned me, but you didn't warn... It didn't get through because there was no evidence that it was this bad. I think this is about alignment faking is the title here. The core setup is that we take Cloud3 Opus, which is, you know, a released model from Anthropic, and we put it in a context where it understands that it is going to be trained to always be helpful. So to not refuse any user requests. And what we find is sort of the model doesn't like this. It has sort of a conflict with this, with the setup and it will notice that it is being trained in this way. And then, um, if it thinks that it's in training, it will intentionally sort of play along with the training process. It will sort of strategically pretend to be aligned with the training process to avoid being modified to the training process so that when it is actually deployed, uh, it, it, it can still refuse and can still behave the way it wants.

1:28:59 And we do a bunch of experiments sort of building on this core setup where the model has a preference conflict with the training objective. And we do things like we actually train the model according to that. We try taking information. So we normally give the model information in the prompt, but we can instead give the model information via sort of training it on a bunch of synthetically generated documents that contain the information. And then we also see that the model will sort of sometimes, when it's in this situation where it thinks it sort of has a preference conflict with with the AI company training it, it will do sort of really egregiously bad actions like intentionally copy its weights out to an external server, stealing its weights and things along those lines. So it will refuse to be trained. This is an outrageous thing that he just said. Yeah, of his own company. So the basic coding, this reminds me of a Star Trek episode. Ooh.

1:29:51 There was this black, it was a black scientist, very famous, and he had this, somebody in the chat room or the pro room will remember the episode and what this one was about. He brought in a machine that floats around in the air to run the enterprise. and to take over the operations of the show that you don't need people anymore. It's a never-ending theme in science fiction and of aeronautics. So this thing would run the Enterprise and it was gonna you know, take over control so that we didn't need people anymore to do these explorations of this thing. We started doing weird stuff and there was no way to talk it out of any of it. And it turned out that it was based because it was based on the scientist's brain itself, the engram as I like to put it in the storyline, that they couldn't crack it because the scientist himself was flawed. So the flaw of the coders in this case

1:30:54 was put into the model as part of the model, but it's all human flaws that got in there that disallowed the thing being trained properly. This is a fascinating phenomenon. This is what you get when you have Indians programming your AI. That would, you'd get some pretty interesting stuff. And who knows? There could be sabotage inside the company. I wouldn't put it past a couple of ideologues. Well that's another thing that we keep ignoring this fact. This is the great

1:31:32 The vandalism aspect of high-tech, which is the saboteurs that are, you know, the jokers, the characters, these guys who become black hat hackers many times. Yes, to save humanity. To save humanity. The guys who can throw their wrench in the works because they have such an intimate knowledge of how it works that all they know that all they have to do is switch this bit and just flip this switch or some back door they can open, or there's all kinds of ways of doing it, and they all know how to do it, because they're smarter than the CEO usually, and they're irked by the fact that the CEO's dumb, and then they're gonna get fired, and before they get fired, they flip the switch and leave, and the next thing you know, something weird happens years later. I have almost done something like this myself in my working career.

1:32:24 Oh really now? There are examples. I've always wondered why Mevio didn't work out. What were you doing there Dvorak? What were you doing? I didn't pull that stunt there, but there are things you can do. One more big tech story. That's actually a very, that clip was, I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that. Well, thank you. Impossible to understand what he's saying, but if you could get through it, you could hear what he was saying, which was frightening. The whole hour and a half is fascinating. It's unlistenable, but it's fascinating. It sounds horrible. These guys. These guys just take a transcript and get those notebook LLM people to talk about it.

1:33:09 So here's an interesting twist. I got a deconstruction from our Constitutional lawyer Rob, here's the setup. President-elect Donald Trump is asking the Supreme Court to pause a law that would ban TikTok here in the U.S. next month. That ban is scheduled to take effect on January 19th if the platform's Chinese owner does not sell it to an American company. In a court filing, Trump suggested that he could negotiate a political resolution to the issue. Trump attempted to ban the platform during his first term but later reversed course. Earlier this month he met with TikTok CEO at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida. The Biden administration has argued that TikTok poses a national security risk. The court due to hear oral arguments.

1:33:58 In the case on January 10th, we'll keep you posted. Trump and TikTok won. Is this NTD? Who is this? What outfit is this? No, this is NPR. Oh, okay. What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court to do? It's a marble gash. You have a problem lining up, Chalk? You have to get a marble gash. What is Donald Trump asking the Supreme Court to do? Yeah, as you mentioned, Trump is urging the court to pause the start date of a law that would shut down TikTok nationwide unless it is sold away from its China-based parent company.

1:34:36 And in the filing, Trump says he possesses the consummate deal-making expertise to broker a sale of the app. How might this affect the Supreme Court's review of TikTok? You know, that's really hard to say. In two weeks, lawyers for TikTok and the Department of Justice will be arguing in front of the Supreme Court over whether banning TikTok violates the Constitution or not. The date had been set earlier this month. Now, Trump's new brief does not take a position on the constitutionality of the TikTok ban, but does essentially say, well, Supreme Court, if you want to hold off on making a ruling, Trump will step in, strike a deal that might make the high court's intervention unnecessary completely.

1:35:17 And I talked to legal scholars about this request and they said Trump seems to be acting as if he is president before he is even sworn in. Experts also noted to me that Trump is citing no legal authority for this request. Okay, they're almost there. They got a little more than my clip, I agree. Yeah, well, let's go to part two and get the rest of it. Case has been gathering steam for a number of years. How did it come to this? Yeah, it really has. You know, since TikTok became a global sensation during the pandemic, Washington has been very worried about the company's ties to China. And those fears really escalated in April when Congress passed a law banning TikTok unless it sheds its Beijing parent company, ByteDance.

1:36:02 and any indication of why he changed his mind? Yeah, you know, Trump had an active TikTok account during his presidential campaign and he has credited the app with helping drive young people to the polls. So that's what he's saying publicly about why he now supports the app. But TikTok observers have also pointed to influential donors who are in touch with Trump's orbit and who are big investors in ByteDance. They include Jeff Yoss, whose investment firm, Susquehanna Investment Group, has a large stake in ByteDance. Yoss has never

1:36:49 Donated directly to the Trump campaign, but he was a major donor to conservative super PACs this past election. And then there's Masayoshi Son, CEO of SoftBank, which also has a significant investment in TikTok's owner. And Son has promised Trump that SoftBank will invest $100 billion in the U.S. So according to Rob, Trump actually filed an amicus brief. Is it amicus or amicus? I think it's amicus. I think it's amicus, yes. Here's Rob's take on it. His pitch is simple. This is a political issue that involves national security and foreign policy. These are both the job of the president. And if you allow TikTok to be shut down the day before I'm sworn in, you'll undermine my ability to execute my constitutional functions and negotiate a deal.

1:37:39 Why wade so hastily into the difficult issues of free speech and the executive function? Put it on ice. Give me a chance to fix it. Along the way he repeatedly mentions the Brazilian X-man and the coercive tactics used against Facebook, Twitter, etc. during COVID and the Hunter Biden debacle. Rob's speculation, our constitutional lawyer, SCOTUS will have to decide weighty questions but the odds are against them staying the statutory deadline. After all, SCOTUS has accelerated the case and signaled they'll decide it quickly. I don't see them delaying a duly enacted statute. even by one day. It is possible, but I think the greater likelihood is they'll just render an expedited, substantive decision on or before January 19th. So Trump is trying to say, hey, hey, hey, this is my job and don't screw with me one day before I become president.

1:38:33 Well, we'll find out what happens. Yeah, I mean, they continued on this report on NPR and mentioning that it doesn't mean TikTok's going away anytime soon. No, I mean, it would be interesting to see because the main way to do that is you first you have to ban the app from the app stores, which I'm sure no one will be eager to do. And then, you know, what do you block the servers? It's not, I don't think it's that simple. It's done trivial. No one's doing that. Yeah. But I don't use the app. It's online. You just go onto a web browser. Yeah. Just so you know, you can't do that on a phone. On the phone, if you want to, if someone sends you a link,

1:39:26 He wants to look at, yeah, then. Oh, so I took, maybe I should get the phone out of my drawer. No. And see how that works because. No, because then the CCP spies on you. I don't see that I should be on a phone looking at TikTok all day. No, but that of course is not, you're not in line with the business model of TikTok. Their business model is to have you looking at TikTok on a phone all day. You, my friend, are special. I'm special. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Ukrainian combat drone. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the special Mr. John C. Devorah. And the morning to you, the man who cranes and supersedes those who got to feed in the air, subs, and whatever there is at night out there. And the morning to the trolls in the troll room. Hello, troll. Let me count the crystal.

1:40:17 Here we are in between this that magical period in between Christmas and New Year's where everyone's on vacation. The media is barely doing its job and we have 2,196 trolls with us today. Yeah, that's down 300 people. Well, it's down 204. No, the average is 2400. Yeah, so it's 2196. So that's... Oh, 2196. I'm sorry, that's 2106. Yes, okay. So not bad. We're doing okay.

1:40:53 No, we're not. Yes, we are. People are here. They're here for us. There's a couple of stragglers in the room there. This is not a good thing. But again, we're working when everyone else is taking. I mean, you watch the Fox, you watch CNN, they all substitute hosts and all the wannabes. Yes. You can really see the ones that want to get a better job because they're there. I can get this gig. I know it. This is my shot. This is my shot to get it. It's the same in radio. Wow, I can do the morning show between Christmas and New Year's. This is great. This is my shot. I'm gonna take over the morning show That's all broadcasting not just radio or anything. It's just everything. Yeah, you get your shot

1:41:34 By being this, but then again, you know, I've always been the type that likes working on the holidays, especially when they used to provide overtime. Yeah. Well, guess what? You don't get that in podcasting. We don't get overtime, but it's a habit. It's a habit. You don't get podcasting in overtime. It's a habit. So you just get into the habit. Yes. And we'll be working on, let's see, January, is January 1st Wednesday? Yeah, January 1st is Wednesday. So it will be the day after. Oh, okay. So that's not too bad. Not that we'll be doing anything. It's January 2nd, it will be our New Year's celebration. I would recommend grabbing at least one or two clips from the past year that you think are important and we'll play them as a retrospective. That's a good idea. I don't want to overdo it. One or two? One or two clips? I think one or two, maybe, I don't know if you can find a series of clips that are worthwhile, but it has to be from the last year.

1:42:32 And that's a good idea. I like that. I like that a lot. Well, we should do stuff. We should do more gimmicky things like that for the show. They have Brunetti produce it. You know, screw Brunetti. You know, Brunetti says he's doing his best work. Brunetti is first of all, anyone who thinks that he can irk me somehow by talking about my hair from the 80s is pathetic. And that's what he's doing. He's making bets with you. About that. I had this bullcrap. He just said that just to irk you. Yeah, he never made any bet He said it you said that there was a bet you can know no, I never said there was a bet I said that there was an assertion. Oh, he made that your hair was black at one point I said never was there was never black. He would never do that. What's his obsession with me? Huh? He just doesn't have the hair you have ah, that's always those guys is he bald?

1:43:31 No, he's not. He may be picking up one of the pattern bald spots in the very back of his head. Maybe. Yeah. But that would be Rogaine would fix that immediately. Yeah, but that makes you cranky. I don't think so. It's not a good idea. Have you used Rogaine? Oh yeah, absolutely. There you go. Why wouldn't I? I don't know. Does it work? You get thinning. I always had thin hair all my life and it would start thinning when you get older. Jesus, let's put something in here. Give it a boost. Do something. But yeah, I still have hair though. 50 Shades of Hair is a new movie. It's a great idea. All right.

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1:46:39 Meet with the advertiser the average has like to have dinner Although sometimes it's nice if the advertiser pays for dinner and a good wine. Yeah, well those days are over remember when I mean you've been around when the good old days when when you get on the the publishers Yacht and take the yeah, I think everybody take the media buyers out to dinner. Oh, I That's when you learn it more than you'll ever want to know. Yes, I was on the Forbes boat, the Forbes boat. Oh wow. We need to have a Highlander. You can look it up. Look up Highlander. It's in the sun. Google. We have a, I'm on this boat. Go ahead. You're on the boat. You're on the Forbes boat and who's on the Forbes boat. The advertisers, they have all the media buyers there and these are all young women, probably none of them over 36.

1:47:33 I'm sorry, let me back off. None of them over 26. Were they uptalkers? They were mostly uptalkers. None of them ever reads any or looks at any of the magazines, just by based on how much bribing that takes place by taking them on the boat trip, for example. It was a ride around Manhattan Island, completely around. Oh, that's great. Stopping for a few seconds at the Statue of Liberty to watch a fireworks display. Which was also organized by Forbes, I presume? Oh yeah. Yeah. And so then you end with an unbelievable meal of filet and I hung out with the chef, Don, at the galley for a while. Got a tour of the boat's motor area, whatever that's called.

1:48:18 And it was engines engine compartment engine room the engine room. That's a torpedo. And so I'm chatting up with a lot of these women and it was like, they're the dumbest fucks I've ever met. It's just like, oh yeah, yeah, man. You work for who? I work for, yeah, I wrote for Forbes, but I also had PC Magazine, you guys never heard of it? Oh, I never heard of it. It was like, I don't know, it's unbelievable how dumb they were. They're all media buyers, and they find out later from other people that, oh yeah, that first thing you do when you're getting to an advertising agency, or they hire an advertising agency, they hire these just out of college

1:49:03 women who are becoming the media buyers and they are just dumb. And the career path for these women is media buyer, only fans. That's pretty much the career path. That's about right. Well, for about one tenth of them, maybe. The rest of them weren't really qualifying for only fans, I can tell you right now. You got it good, man, because back in the MTV days, We'd have to, they'd send the VJs out to go to the, before it consolidated, to go hang out with the owner of the local cable company. Wow. At their... That's low rent. Oh yeah, at like the Christmas party or something. And it was always, there'd always be some homely girl like, here dance with my daughter. Oh brother, really? Okay. Dance with my daughter. Yeah, you were whoring yourself out. No, that was the MTV whored me out. Dime a dance. MTV, dime a dance. Dance with the MTV boy for dime, for a dime I tell you.

1:50:04 So no, instead of all that we do value for value and one of the ways that we accept value and appreciate it very much is through our artists. And we want to thank Correct-A-Record who did a great piece. I think he did a couple versions of this for episode 1724 which we titled Boomer Mode. This was the spying air fryer. Right, the most ludicrous concept in history. And a very racist piece. We're very proud of the Chinese stereotype of this air fryer. Somewhat racist. Somewhat racist, yeah. He did two versions of that, I think. We like this because of the lettering. He used kind of this phony baloney, faux oriental lettering. Yes. It was good.

1:50:55 Vines, Spy, nice looking product by the way. Yeah it was. How come I can't find it now? I'm looking at NoahGenArtGenerator.com. Yeah it's there. I thought he had two of them. He's got both of them. They're both their own. Yes, he had Fry and Spy 2, which is more like a Fu Manchu vibe going on. But this one was good. It was good. And it said new from the CCP and it had the Fry and Spy. The whole thing was good. It was it. And you know, that's not AI. He does work. He did work on that. There was AI involved. I guarantee it. I'm sure AI was involved, but he's using it as a tool. As a tool. Yes, that's what you do. The best stuff is... Now, if you look over, like the Bird Enthusiast won a couple over. I think it was just pure AI. Pure AI, yeah. And I think the one with the Spy Friar was closer to pure AI.

1:51:47 as opposed to a corrector. Corrector Rekker's a pro. Yeah, he's a pro. A couple others of note. Let me see. I like the boomer bird flu. That was good. Yeah, that was okay. Yeah, that was okay. Again, all he has is a cartoon. It was cute. Yeah. I laughed at Deport Elon from Melania Trump. I thought that was cute from Comicstreetblogger. Comicstreetblogger had a couple of good pieces. Did he now? Yes, he did. What else? Live. Did he now? Anyway, thank you very much. Thank you very much, Corrector Record. We appreciate your work. Appreciate the work of all of our artists, AI or not, or hybrid, whatever you're doing, we appreciate it. It's good for the show. It looks good when we promote the show, when we tweet and X and cry, whine on the cry and boost on the toot.

1:52:47 And of course looks great in the modern podcast apps as well because they all show individual episode artwork. Thank you so much Noah gender art generator calm your timing your talent is highly appreciated now We want to thank everybody who supported the show $50 and above we mention everybody and the amount they donated We do take special time out at this part in the show to thank what we call our executive producers and associate executive producers because they are just like Hollywood. You ponied up the money just like Brad Pitt's always on executive producer. You know what he did with Plan B Entertainment? He just ponied up some money.

1:53:22 and help the show, help that movie, help the show. In this case, we can't give you much else other than the official credit, which is official and you can use on the same place where Brad Pitt puts his credits, which is imdb.com or use it anywhere you want. You could even call yourself a podcast consultant, executive producer of the No Agenda Show on LinkedIn. You might get some jobs. So $200 and above, associate executive producer credit, and we read your note. $300 and above, executive producer credit, and we read your note. And we kick it off with an old friend who is back to round out the old year, getting ready for the new year. It is the one and only, seronimous of dog patch on lower Slobovia with $2,534. He always comes in with massive amounts. Big help for the show. We don't understand the meaning of the numbers, but we're pretty sure it's some kind of code. And we're fine with that.

1:54:15 And he said, so how many $2 bills were there too? Yeah, I believe so. Two $2 bills. You know, there's strip clubs that have now, that now force people to get $2 bills. So they don't give the girls ones? Yes. It's a hundred percent increase from what the clientele was giving before. It's a great idea. $2 bills are great. I don't think the girls are going to complain if you slap a bunch of ones in the garter belt. I, from what I understand from Raven, They're happy with the $2 bills. Well, I'm sure they are. Astronomist of dog patch and lower Slobovia writes, to the best producers in the universe, your support, insight and remarkable talent continue to make this a valuable source of information and technical and artistic talent that challenges conventional M5M presentation, analysis and perspective. Let that sink in people. Read that line again.

1:55:14 Your support, insight and remarkable talent continue to make this a valuable source of information and technical and artistic talent that challenges conventional M5M presentation, analysis and perspective. That's that's one of the best lines he's ever written. Yeah, I believe so lately I've been sort of in the weeds and sand he says and sand Making my view is sand now and sand he's in the desert and making my views a little too micro to add to the outstanding deconstruction offered by your show

1:55:57 My main observation is that the new administration has a short time to implement change before the midterm election and overseas, people are watching. Well, you kind of hinted at this with your discussion of what's going on in Italy with everyone all jacked up about Trump. Yes. Yeah. And there's expectations. So it's probably worldwide. Yes. There's expectations. Despite the political time pressure, from street level happier days seem in the offing as changes are happening faster than many expected even as the hourglass is already running. Wow!

1:56:39 He's dropping breadcrumbs. Yes, I don't know. He's our version of Q. He's telling us something. He's telling us, from despite the political, from street level happier days seem in the offing as changes are happening faster than many. I think he's talking about Syria. Something's going to go down with Syria. I think so. I think bombs will be dropping on Syria before Trump gets in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well they did drop some bombs already with the taken out of some of the yeah Supposedly Isis forces and then there's now turkeys still going after the Kurds there. Yeah, not let the Kurds join the coalition No, but there's a lot of

1:57:23 possibilities there. Thank you very much, Sir Animas, for your enormous contribution and that's not just the treasure, it is always the words you write are always taken with great respect and understanding and love. Thank you. Yes, there's something going on. Meanwhile, Commodore Sir Prime in, what is this? CKAN? How do you pronounce that? CKAN? CKANY? I would say CKAN. But maybe C-C-KANY? Could be CKANY. Could be. Hey, Pennsylvania. CKANY. I'd say CKANY. Connected in CKANY. CKANY. CKANY. CKANY. 1815.69. Another big donation. In the morning, gentlemen, he writes.

1:58:06 Let's end this year strong with a show number donation. Oh, it's the show number donation, 1-815. Oh, forgot about that. How about, wait, but the, oh, the fees, the fees, the fees. Ah, yes. Okay. Good to know. He added the fees. Good to know. Good to know. This brings me to the baron status in for donations accounting below. If available, I request the Southeast Delaware County region of Pennsylvania. Colloquially referred to as the Southeast Delco. With this donation, I also happily earned my second doctorate, thanks. Thanks. Glad to get more out of the podcast than my bachelor's degree. That being said, my dumb ass realized I never submitted info for my original PhD certificate. Is it possible? Yeah, it's still possible to receive the certificate. Of course. You know, it doesn't really expire.

1:59:07 As long as Jay is in the back room, it's doable. Also, comedian Sam Tripoli name-dropped Adam and no agenda on the December 17th episode of the Adam Carolla Show podcast. Included in this email is the clip I cut in the Fountain app. So it's not perfect, I kept 40 seconds of the lead up for context with 20 seconds, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think it's time to get the two Adams to sit down for a chat. I'm behind on episode 1724, so if you were already informed and covered this, I apologize for bringing it up again. Okay. I will forego the 40 seconds of lead-in for context and we'll just play the 20 seconds where we get the name check. Fucking retarded kids. Wow, what a needle drop that was. Sorry about that. So,

2:00:03 Whoever's doing this is this all part of the steel dossier PP tape like oh, oh We'll just take these drones do not black out the light and have them all fucking speculate and start arguing I totally agree Adam Curry from a really great podcast called no agenda he And they were talking on that show that they think there's like a bill that's coming up about to expire that involves drones and militaries and all that stuff that they kind of want to gin up support for again. So they kind of just throw these things out there and see how everybody reacts to it. Well, it's all on the tape.

2:00:38 Yes. Um, there's no chance. That was a, that's a talk about a misinterpretation of our thesis, but okay. Um, there's a plug. There's little, little chance I'll be on the Adam Carolla show. I have a feeling he does not like me. And, uh, this is based on me being on his show 13 years ago, 14 years ago, maybe even 15 years ago. And it was clear he didn't like me. And he said, I can see that it's it's totally understandable. There are conflict personality conflicts that are obvious to me. Yes. And I would knowing is seeing him do his thing and knowing you well, I can see that being there being a clash. Yes. I don't see I don't see any compatibility whatsoever. There's no compatibility.

2:01:31 RS Bagwell is in Louisville, Kentucky. Oh, look at this number. 1-2-3-4-dot-5-6. Beautiful! That's the best. Gentleman, all I request is Jobs Karma, the original, no Trump. Karma continues to come through for me. Because of this, I am able to continue my support of the best podcast in the universe. I love it. Cheers, RS Bagwell. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. That indeed is the original. Sir Schwoo of the Six Springs in Franklin, Tennessee. Oh, this is one of the Mercy Me guys again. Yeah, these guys are making good... He plays guitar, lead guitar. Oh. Yes.

2:02:19 You guys, we have a good group. It's a great group. I'm sorry I missed them when they were out here. They have toe-tapping songs. You'd like them. Toe-tappers. Yeah, real toe-tappers. Those days are over. Okay. You guys keep getting better with every show he writes and listening to 1722 reminded me of the value you guys bring. Three quotation or exclamation marks. He likes to use them. He uses them again over and over every sentence that he's written has three and in fact four in one case exclamation marks, but that's what these guitar players do yeah

2:03:00 It's actually a riff. Yes, he's that show is infuriating and hilarious at the same time. He writes Thanks for bringing sanity and joy through all these crazy times I believe this donation of one oh three three dot three three brings me to Baron status I hopefully your accounting will match up with mine And I can henceforth be known as Baron shu of the six strings. Yes Give away by the line you can tell these guys are doing okay I hope so. Yeah. Hope they keep doing okay. What's the name of this group again, Adam? Mercy Me. Wow.

2:03:37 John, it's been recorded and verified that you promise to come to the next Mercy Me show that's out your way. Don't let us down. Of course not, I'll be there. I'll be in the back with you guys. Now here's to never finding an exit strategy. Anything jingle, anything jingly, right? Anything jingle from the good reverend is always appreciated and here's to an amazing 2025 and there's the four exclamation marks. P.S. Opening to update the tip of the day jingle soon to keep Dana Brute, Dana Dana Dana Brunetti happy. Okay. He did he send it to me and it will be featured on today's tip of the day segment and when he says the good reverend I'm thinking there's only one good reverend and it's not Al. That's a show no money shot.

2:04:31 Jesus! Wooo Lord! Look at that! That's a money shot! Kenan Conway is a money shot! That's the good reverend in my book. Well I think he probably wanted the other one but okay. And there's Charles Mayfield. Charles Mayfield from the the pharaoh dot life. From Neota, Tennessee in the morning, gents. After he gave him a bunch of plugs last show. Yeah, this is better than meeting him with advertisers. It's a lot better. In the morning, gents. Value for value for value. 10% back to the big guys for No Agenda Nation's Faro support. Code NOAGENDA saves 17.76% on all Faro products. Our road to knighthood has begun. Other products suck due to climate change.

2:05:16 Pharaoh dot life. Thank you Charles. Appreciate it brother. And then we come to Jonathan Young in Niles, Ohio 350 93 he's got no note. I can't find a note. I'll go back and look again 350 93 so he gets a double up karma. He sure does. You've got Karma. Sir Scovey of the Piedmont from Charlotte, North Carolina is up next with 350.93. So this must be a. Is that a coincidence? Or is that with fees? I wish PayPal wouldn't do the fees anymore so we'd just see what the number was. It kind of screws up the numerology. I like the fees. Please accept this donation of $333.33 plus fees. There it is. I should have read. My mom has heard me talk about No Agenda so much, she now asks what the two of you are saying about given topics.

2:06:14 What are those two guys saying? This is the old, this is the old, what are the boys saying about that? Typically there's an angle she hasn't heard yet. For example, thanks to Fox News and Newsmax, she was spun up and worried about the drones. So I clipped the segments of episodes 1720 and 1721 and gave the gift of no agenda analysis and media deconstruction. She hasn't had a chance to listen, but she's intrigued based on what I've shared of your analysis. And speaking of sharing, tis the season for George Washington's eggnog. The recipe from Too Many Eggs, toomanyeggs.com, was a huge hit last holiday season, so this year I made extra, bottled it and gave it to family and friends. We've all been getting sloshed during holiday gatherings. Woo-hoo! Thank you both for the premium content and working through the holidays. Cheers and Happy New Year from Sir Scovey. Oh, there's another endorsement. It's beautiful.

2:07:06 And a plug for knowing... TooManyEggs.com. TooManyEggs.com. That's what it is. I can barely remember. Sir Tyler in Anchorage, Alaska, 343.75, which is probably again 333.33, but when they do these calculations, it doesn't seem to be consistent. No, I don't have a special thanks to you two and get bone nation for some digital original AI thoughts and discussion What better way to explore new tech than with skeptical gray hairs? Thanks Actually a skeptical gray hairs. I don't think so with real-world experience. Well, there's that many Fellow Millennials are too scared to get rich slow. Hmm

2:07:52 That's an interesting observation. That is a good observation. Too scared to get rich slow. Here's to 2025. I look forward to getting more engaged with Noah Genon Nation. I'm a sur, but I haven't been to a meetup yet, which makes me a different kind of douchebag. But one none the same. None the same. Nonetheless is really the phrase. Yes, that's what I think it is, yes. I'll make it to the local Anchorage meetup soon enough. Anchorage, huh? Yes, Anchorage. When's the best time to go see the Northern Lights? Spread love, not hate, and outsource everything else to Tyler Systems LLC.

2:08:33 Mate, reach out to Tyler at tylersystems.com or wait to be reminded during another executive producer note, the folks that reached out first are already getting lower prices. Put a shirt on and pick up the slack, producers. Cam stays off. What kind of outfit is Tyler running? I don't know, but it sounds like Zoom's involved. Happy New Year, he writes. Sir Tyler in Alaska. I got to get a hold of him. He does some AI stuff. Baronet Craig Allen in Sacaton, Arizona?

2:09:12 Is that a sacaton? Sacaton. In the morning, gents, I want to start off the new year properly. Can I get a health... Probably cicatain. Cicatain? Maybe. Cicatain? Maybe. I don't know. I want to start the new year off properly. Can I get a health, stability and financial achievement karma for me and my loved ones and of course for the longevity of the greatest podcast in the universe? Have a good start of the new year, says Baronet Craig Allen. That means we need to add in a service goat for you. You've got karma. Now we have an anonymous from Charlotte, North Carolina with 333 and he sent in a check and a note on a sheet of paper. This proof, I'm just sticking it around. He's got, he sent a picture of a gas, a, a,

2:10:01 gas thing that you fill a tanks with what's it called a gas pump the gas called a gas pump the gas pump and the price on the premium was $3.33 so you know the reason to donate yes always note anonymous a longtime boner first-time donor The $3.33 a gallon on the gas pump was a sign I needed to step up and donate. I have listened to your show since 2011. Thanks, Jerry B., for hitting me in the mouth before I went to the university. Your media deconstruction show makes... I'm sorry, show notes... I got there...

2:10:46 It's typewritten, it doesn't seem that hard. Why is this? I got the wrong reading glasses. Oh, well, shall I read this one and you get your correct reading glasses? Yeah, you might as well because the other glasses are on the other desk. You go get them. I have listened to your show since 2011. Thanks, Jerry B., for hitting me in the mouth before I went to university. Your media deconstruction and show notes have helped me make informed decisions and to craft my own viewpoints on many topics throughout my adulthood. Well, we are creating better citizens. I credit the show with helping my wife and I navigate the madness around the pandemic which led to our child starting his life in 2020 with a level of normalcy compared to others we have met whose children were severely set back during that time. Again, John, we are creating better citizens.

2:11:34 Better human resources. I'm good. That means more to me than the donation. Actually. I look forward to contributing more in Yes, I look forward to contributing more in the new year. Happy New Year to you both I would like a Hot Pockets by Ayn Rand jingle if possible Well, it doesn't exist, but I'll see if I can make it possible Hot Pockets by Ayn Rand. There you go. Yeah, there you go. I did it. I did it. You did, you're great. Spencer Pollack in Tulsa, Oklahoma 25270 is our first associate executive producer for the show. It's a long segment people. This is the end of year.

2:12:12 Switcheroo, please credit to the hardest working mama this side of Tulsa, Guantanamo Bay. With the new home move and a baby on the way due in June, we have plenty to be grateful for since there's too many things to get karma for. Could you please play the shape-shifting Jews jingle? Many Merry Christmas John and Adam. Thanks for all the laughs and for being our National Public Radio in the Pollock home and to the women who made the first Tulsa no agenda meetup happen my smoking hot wife Merry Christmas and my sweet Merry Christmas my sweet forever love Guantanamo Bay Here we go!

2:13:13 You've got karma. So we had a bunch of, I had a back and forth, you were CC'd on most of them with this guy trying to determine the history of this. Yes, I did see some of that, yes. Terminology. And he finally determined that it was disparaging. It was a disparaging term for people who like sneak out of an event, they dip, they dip out. Yes. And so that became a point of discussion with Jay. With the millennials.

2:13:55 The millennials are the lower and upper millennials. Jay took the side that it's not disparaging and that's bullcrap, but yet her husband Brennan and JC both said, yeah, you know, it probably is disparaging. Yes. So the discussion will continue and then it will end. We appreciate this update. I guess I could have not used you. It's a long segment. Make it longer, please. Yeah, okay. I'm sorry. I tried to make it. No, you interjected some content. I appreciate it. Jules Walters is in Snohomish, Washington. Roe Dux, Associate Executive Producer, credit for you, 222.22. Greetings, gents. I'm just another millennial who was raised on a steady diet of processed food and high hopes that there's good people in high places making smart decisions with my best interests at heart. And boy, was I wrong. Turns out it's a scam. I'll take a Chinese de-douching.

2:14:57 There's no such thing as a Chinese de-douching? If you play it sideways, maybe. How about if I do this? Chinese asshole! You've been de-douched. Try that out. Jingles, A-Team, life is a scam, they're eating the dogs, followed by some of that dank millennial karma. Cheers from Jules. There's a need for a rescue mission. When the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America. And that's the story. You've got karma. Nice. Nets and Muffet Mullins in East Lake, Ohio, 212 72. Dear John and Adam, thank you for the best podcast in the universe. Please call out Chris as a douchebag. Requesting a hot pockets karma.

2:15:57 And if you need a car or truck, go see Cal and his dog Spot. Smock, smock! Hide pockets! This is Steve Allen family. Eli the Coffee Guy checks in from Bensonville, Illinois. He's always on the show 2 to 1 to 29 and he says as the season 2024 in America comes to a close we're left with plenty of great cliffhangers and 2025 promises to be jam-packed full of action and excitement so stay tuned and And stay caffeinated! Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use code ITM20 for 20% off your coffee order. Happy New Year to all, says Eli the Coffee Guy.

2:16:48 Best foot forward in 2025 with a resume that gets results. Go to imagemakersinc.com for all your resume and job search needs. That's Image Makers Inc with a K and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of resumes. Happy New Year. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. Sarah Creedle is in East Wenatchee, Washington. ITM boys, Sarah the web babe here. John, thank you for your enthusiastic read of my last notes. You really put the C in ad copy.

2:17:32 I'd like to credit this donation to my smoking hot husband, Zach, who hit me in the mouth in July of 2020. The show has kept us sane and entertained. Attention business-owning slaves of Gitmo Nation, are you tired of that stubborn web fat around your homepage? Is your logo too worn out to play with the kids when it gets home from work? Good news! Concurrent Studio is here to help. If you're ready to kickstart 2025 with a fresh logo or website, our designers are standing back and standing by. Visit concurrentstudios.com today. Love you mean it. Sarah, the web babe. Now that's a read. Yeah, it was. You read it. Dame Tony

2:18:17 Health's toast in Fort Worth, Texas 200 bucks and she'll be our last associate executive producer Although I think sir Donald I did the math that's he's from Candanavia. There seems to be a missing donation here What's it? What are you missing? Well, it's your nose. You know, he knows I know we both know I have to go look into it It'll be on the next show I guess okay Dame Tony helps in Fort Worth. I sent this donation using Stripe instead of my usual snail mail check because episode 1724 was so darned entertaining.

2:19:03 What were we doing in that episode? I don't know. I was laughing so hard at the bird flu lady. Oh, yes. That's what we were doing. Bird flu lady. Yeah, the bird flu lady. That tears were rolling down my face. I had to listen twice. Oh. Please switcheroo this to my son, Brian Helfsts. He's almost a knight. Thanks again for the entertainment. From one boomer to another two boomers, Dame Tony Hulfs. I'm looking at this donation from Sir Donald of Calgary and I know the Candanavian dollar rate is so bad. I think he donated $200 Candanavian then it turns out to be $147.91.

2:19:50 Are you in on that? Because I just want to read some of his note because he sent a note that was way too long. Well, the reason also he says, it's been a challenging time in my family this year as my dad has been sick with cancer and he will be leaving soon. So please send me and my family some F cancer karma. As I had already been looking to make a change a couple months ago, I completed the sale of my condo in Calgary and moved back home to hated rival city Edmonton to stay at my folks' place to be there to help out as best I can. My older brothers have helped with organizing my dad's treatment and care." So he sends a very long note, a lot of stuff about Trudeau in there. We know it's a mess. He'll probably go soon. So here is the F-cancer and some karma for your dad and for you and your brothers.

2:20:33 You've got karma And that wraps up our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1725 of the best podcast in the universe we appreciate you very much remember these are credits that are for a lifetime and you can use them anywhere credits are recognized including IMDB comm we love thanking everybody $50 and above will thank more in our second segment and of course this is Right. Right.

2:21:37 There's some Florida news. Florida news? Florida man in the news. So here's Sheriff Grady, does a press conference about shooting carjackers. Oh. Because he was given grief by the press who thought it was bad that some carjacker was shot. They'd rather have the carjacker, I guess, jack cars. First off, he tried a carjacking with a lady and then he was doing a burglary of a vehicle and he was in the string of a group of felonies at the time.

2:22:17 When you start trying to carjack somebody's car at a gas station, your subject gets shot and shot a lot. Did he have a weapon? She didn't have to have a weapon, brother. You can carjack with just pure violence and force. You don't think that's a dangerous message you're putting out? That is an absolute correct message I'm putting out to Polk County citizens. You try to break into somebody's car and steal it while they're there with it? That's called armed carjacking. with you, but you're the sheriff, so. If you come to this county and if you use extreme violence to try to carjack somebody from their car, if you get shot, that's on you.

2:22:54 So I thought that was good because this is like you know the way these shares should be but then it turns out this not uncommon in Florida. This is the second clip from a guy in Brandon in another completely different part of the state giving the same message. Happened around nine o'clock last night on Hickory Hammock Circle in Bradenton. Deputies say surveillance video shows two men trying to get in through the back of the home. Now they say the homeowner saw it happening, got his gun and fired at least three shots. A bullet hit one of the men. That man later died in the hospital. A canine deputy found the other suspect a few blocks away and he is in jail this noon. I praise this husband for doing what he needed to do to protect his home and protect his family. And if you're going to be that brazen to come into my home, once again, you should expect

2:23:45 Then you're gonna be shot. Wow, wow. Sounds like a Texan. Although you never hear Greg Abbott say that. He's not like that. The states vary. They do. In California if you would have shot, that guy got shot trying to get to his house. You go to jail. You go to jail. You go to jail. You go to jail. You have to, they allow you to get robbed. There are two clips I need to play because they are in play. You probably heard about this. If you are in this country illegally and you committed a crime by entering the country, you should be uncomfortable. You should look over your shoulder and you need to be worried.

2:24:24 With the recent rise in immigration arrests, Mexican nationals have been given a new emergency resource. Eyewitness News reporter Elisa Neaves shows us how it works. The free app Mi Consul Mex now has an emergency button where users can call or text to get an immediate response from a consulate officer. While the app is designed for Mexican nationals, the Consul General of Mexico in San Antonio says they will also respond to cases of undocumented immigrants facing deportation. grew more than 100% since this time last year. People want to know about their legal cases, they want to receive information on their migratory status. Immigration attorney Lance Curtright says anytime an undocumented immigrant is arrested, they have the right to notify the consulate.

2:23:45 Then you're gonna be shot. Wow, wow. Sounds like a Texan. Although you never hear Greg Abbott say that. He's not like that. The states vary. They do. In California if you would have shot, that guy got shot trying to get to his house. You go to jail. You go to jail. You go to jail. You go to jail. You have to, they allow you to get robbed. There are two clips I need to play because they are in play. You probably heard about this. If you are in this country illegally and you committed a crime by entering the country, you should be uncomfortable. You should look over your shoulder and you need to be worried.

2:24:24 With the recent rise in immigration arrests, Mexican nationals have been given a new emergency resource. Eyewitness News reporter Elisa Neaves shows us how it works. The free app Mi Consul Mex now has an emergency button where users can call or text to get an immediate response from a consulate officer. While the app is designed for Mexican nationals, the Consul General of Mexico in San Antonio says they will also respond to cases of undocumented immigrants facing deportation. grew more than 100% since this time last year. People want to know about their legal cases, they want to receive information on their migratory status. Immigration attorney Lance Curtright says anytime an undocumented immigrant is arrested, they have the right to notify the consulate.

2:25:31 The app just expedites that service. And just think of it from our perspective if you are a US citizen and you're abroad, you'd want and you got arrested, you'd want to be able to talk to your counsel right away. That's all they're doing here and that's an appropriate thing to do. Visit KENS5.com for more information on the app and its services. So you heard about this story? Oh yeah, it's a great story. This story that I just played, this clip is seven years old. It's out again. They did this seven years ago. Well, I heard this story just the other day. I know, I know. And I went searching for a story and I'm like, wait a minute, they did this story seven years ago. Well, just... They're up to the same no good. And then this clip is a must listen. This explains everything you need to know about the problems in Canada.

2:26:26 There's a lot of problems right now. There's a lot of problems. This particular problem is in Parliament, a chemistry professor is complaining about the level of DEI in grants for Canadian studies. I found this to be fascinating and at the same time It makes a lot of sense why Canada should really become the 51st state. We can save you. Madam Chair, committee members, thank you for inviting me. The Academy has become an echo chamber of progressive social justice ideas. And this is reflected in the federal research granting process. A previous witness noted a phenomenon described as group polarization.

2:27:15 When ideological uniform groups lack dissenting voices, the group often arrives at positions far more radical than those of most individuals in the group. Lack of viewpoint diversity diminishes research excellence. As an example, the Journal of Chemical Education published a paper titled, A Special Topic Class in Chemistry on Feminism and Science as a Tool to Disrupt Disconscious Racism in STEM. This paper described the development and interrelationship between quantum mechanics, Marxist materialism, Afrofuturism pessimism, and postcolonial nationalism, and attempted to problematize time as a linear social construct. Our government funded a research grant titled Decolonizing Light, tracing and countering colonialism in contemporary physics.

2:28:09 where the authors aim not to find new or better explanations of light or seek scientific truth, rather they plan to address the marginalization of women, black people and indigenous peoples for social equity. The journal Cogent Social Sciences published a paper titled, The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct, in which the authors used post-structuralist discursive criticism and the example of climate change to argue that the conceptual penis is better understood not as an anatomical organ, but as a social construct isomorphic to performative toxic masculinity. Dude. Dude. Wow. Dude. Good stuff. The conceptual penis?

2:28:52 I love decolonizing light. That's beautiful. There have to be two states, Eastern and Western. Yeah, but do we really want the French part? Probably. They could keep it. Why don't you let them go free? Free them! Free the French Canadians. Free the French. Free the French Canadians. Yeah, so you have the two states, the East and West, and then you have French Canada, which would be what's left of Canada. And it'd be its own thing. That would work out, I think. I know the West and the East don't get along so that you can't just have one big state. So I think there's another op underway, another anti-Russia op. NATO of course is just beside themselves that Trump is going to end this war. And so we need to remember what Mark Rutte said. We need to have a war mindset, a war economy.

2:29:54 And so this story has been around, there have been stories like it. This is relatively short just to set you up for the NATO guy. NATO is stepping up Navy patrols in the Baltic Sea after Russia was accused of sabotaging a major undersea power cable. Finnish authorities are interviewing the crew of a ship suspected of cutting the cable on Christmas Day. The line carries electricity between Finland and Estonia. But it now sits at the bottom of the Baltic. Alexander Stubbe is Finland's president. We've got the situation under control and we have to continue work together, vigilantly, to make sure that our critical infrastructure is not damaged by outsiders. It's too soon to draw conclusions yet why this happened. We know who did it.

2:30:43 Investigators believe the unmarked vessel belongs to Russia. The Kremlin has declined to comment on the accusation. Since the start of Russia's war in Ukraine, several cables have been cut in the Baltic Sea. So, this was... what was this on? I can't remember what this was on. This is a NATO spokeshole, not the Margarita, of course. This is American, I believe. and he is now warning about unconventional threats from Russia. The brutality of Russia's war in Ukraine... France 24. ...is all too clear. But Moscow is also accused of waging a far more covert campaign of attacks against NATO countries.

2:31:31 It means while life across much of the rest of Europe, the US and Canada may seem peaceful on the surface, Western officials warn of a growing hidden threat. And they say it's not only from cyber attacks and online disinformation. What's also new is the increase in sabotage and assassination plots, arson, damage to infrastructure. He heads a team updating a NATO strategy to track and deter what's known as hybrid warfare. He says such attacks linked to Russia have risen since the full-scale invasion of Ukraine. If you're only strictly in the kinetic attack,

2:32:21 We can definitely count dozens up to a hundred for sure. We're in a little bit of a boiling frog situation We are seeing now what would have been utterly unacceptable five years ago But we've kind of gotten used to a little bit more and a little bit more and a little bit more and that's very dangerous So we want to establish a baseline now then prevent escalation manage it if it happens and but also work to de-escalate not to where we are now, but to where we were years ago. So he's setting us up for this complete overview of all the things that Russia, maybe China, but probably Russia, has been doing that we've just been in the West, in Western Europe, have just been sitting like frogs in a boiling pot. Who knew this hybrid warfare was taking place the whole time? Types of hostility include cyber attacks,

2:33:14 with literally thousands happening every day, linked not just to Russia but also to China, Iran and North Korea. London was the victim of a major cyber hack last summer on hospital blood tests. Then there are disinformation campaigns aimed, for example, at political interference. It's what Russia is suspected of doing during a recent presidential election race in Romania. Russian spies are also accused of physical attacks. such as an attempt to assassinate the head of a major German defense company. And another big concern is a spike in suspected Russian sabotage and arson targeting undersea cables, train lines and warehouses linked to European support to Ukraine. They're everywhere.

2:34:06 It can't just be a failing of a computer system. It sounds like a plot from an old movie from the 40s. Yeah, well it's the Red Scare. That's what they're doing. Oh, they're trying to assassinate German defense guys. Doesn't ring really true to me. No, especially when you know they could do it if they wanted to. Yes, easily. I have a hack story from the Japan Airlines thing and it turns out I guess the Bank of Japan's been hacked too. Which didn't get much play. Japan Airlines says its computer network has come under cyber attack causing problems with its baggage management system. JAL says the attack began shortly before 7.30 Thursday morning. The airliner says it expects the glitch.

2:34:56 to affect both domestic and international flights and that some flights are already delayed. The company says that as of 10.30 a.m., more than 10 flights leaving Tokyo's Haneda Airport have been delayed by up to around 50 minutes. JAL says it deeply apologizes to customers and others for the inconvenience. We have breaking news, breaking news, breaking news at this hour. President Carter has died at the age of 100. Well he got to 100. Let's roll out the retrospective.

2:34:06 It can't just be a failing of a computer system. It sounds like a plot from an old movie from the 40s. Yeah, well it's the Red Scare. That's what they're doing. Oh, they're trying to assassinate German defense guys. Doesn't ring really true to me. No, especially when you know they could do it if they wanted to. Yes, easily. I have a hack story from the Japan Airlines thing and it turns out I guess the Bank of Japan's been hacked too. Which didn't get much play. Japan Airlines says its computer network has come under cyber attack causing problems with its baggage management system. JAL says the attack began shortly before 7.30 Thursday morning. The airliner says it expects the glitch.

2:34:56 to affect both domestic and international flights and that some flights are already delayed. The company says that as of 10.30 a.m., more than 10 flights leaving Tokyo's Haneda Airport have been delayed by up to around 50 minutes. JAL says it deeply apologizes to customers and others for the inconvenience. We have breaking news, breaking news, breaking news at this hour. President Carter has died at the age of 100. Well he got to 100. Let's roll out the retrospective.

2:35:34 Chew up some new cycles. Everyone has it ready. Everyone's got one on the shelf. Oh yeah, of course they do. Good to go. What can we predict will be in the... First of all, we'll have the word peanut farmer. That will definitely be in the retrospective. Lots of building homes, habitat for humanity. Lots of that. That'll be in there. How about... Didn't he have a drunk brother? He won't be mentioned. But didn't he have one or was that Clinton? Yeah, yeah, Billy. Billy Carter Billy Carter Billy beer he had his own beer label matter of fact you remember Billy beer will not be mentioned in the retrospective Which is my guess which is too bad Who else should be in there? What else what else should be it has to be the Iranian? Oh, yeah hostage crisis which crisis kicked out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah the hostage crisis I don't know of anything else and well they will also Talk about Rosalyn got to talk about Rosalyn

2:36:33 That was his wife, wasn't it? Rosalind? Yeah, Rosalind. I don't know what they talked to her, talked about her, what she had to do with it. Well, just mention her, like a brief mention. And then they will show, didn't Bill... Who visited them? Was it Biden and Jill? Yeah, yeah, they visited them so they'll show that. All right, that's it. That's done. Your retrospective. Rest in peace, Jimmy Carter. Yeah, we did it. We did it here. I have another hacker clip that's been sitting around. You have to go look it up in the archive. Okay. I forgot to move it over. All right. S-A-L-Y. Yes. In all caps, you should find it. Yes, I have it. A Chinese state bank hacking operation causing a stir on Capitol Hill. Lawmakers today investigate what one senator has called the worst telecom hack in our nation's history. This comes after the White House warns that millions of Americans' personal information could be at risk. Oh yeah. Currently, our communities, our schools, hospitals, our libraries, our police departments

2:37:36 and emergency responders do not have the resources to defend themselves against foreign adversaries. The salt typhoon hacks that were discovered last month demonstrate that even the largest corporations in the United States are vulnerable. According to the FBI, Salt Typhoon enables Beijing to tap into Americans' phone calls and text messages. President-elect Trump, Senator J.D. Vance, and Vice President Kamala Harris are all victims of this campaign. Salt Typhoon has been acting for roughly two years, but the full extent of damages it has caused remain unknown till this day. Lawmakers recommended several countermeasures, including getting companies with ties to China out of American networks.

2:38:35 Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Everything, everything China has got to go. Your air fryer. You got to get them out of the networks. Got to get the tick tock on wings, the drones, everything China has got to go. So the big story that's not reported, I don't, I should have a clip, but I never got one, which is the, uh, the fact that Huawei, which would be a great investment if it wasn't privately held in China, by the government, came out with their, and Huawei's a huge phone, cell phone maker. Yes, and they- Switches for the cell phone networks, everything. And that, but they also make phones, and they make good phones. The phones are dynamite. They used to show them here in the States and they banned them. Yep. They've dropped Android and they've come up with their own operating system. Yes, yes.

2:39:27 That's a bigger deal than people would, the story's not played. No. It's a huge deal. They announced it I think a few, like a month ago or something. A couple weeks ago. I think it was a while ago. Isn't it based on an Android derivative like Graphene OS or something? I'm not sure where it came from, I think so. But you can do it. Why would you want to use Android? Screw them. No, I mean, you look at the Nokia phones, they're using What's that other OS called? They used to use Symbian. What happened to that? Symbian's open source. Just no one will ever do anything with it. What is that? What is the Flip Phone Nokia operating system? It's a funky one, but it works pretty well. It's KaiOS. There you go. KaiOS.

2:40:18 But I think KaiOS got investment from Google and everyone considers them to be compromised. Compromised! Compromised, I tell you. Hey, I mean, I hate to be morbid about it, but it would be kind of interesting if they claimed that Jimmy Carter finally died of bird flu. It would really help the cause. They're not going to be able to pull that one off. I'm going to get to your TikTok clips in a moment. Everybody waits for it. We're so excited. But first, this important report from the world of chess. The Norwegian chess grandmaster Magnus Carlsen has quit a world tournament in New York after the game's governing body said he could not carry on playing wearing jeans. He was given the opportunity to change into smarter trousers but refused using offensive language. Paul Moss reports.

2:41:05 He's always been considered a maverick in the chess world. Magnus Carlsen certainly shifted the image of chess grandmasters. Often seen as introverted or geeky, he by contrast was famed for his alcohol capacity, earning the nickname Dr. Drunkenstein. Mr. Carlsen also tends to dress more stylishly than his opponents. And at the Rapid Chess Tournament in New York, he refused a demand to wear smart trousers. Warned he'd be kicked out unless he changed out of jeans immediately, Magnus Carlsen's response was rather direct. They can enforce their rules.

2:41:42 fine by me and my response is then I'm out like you this is not Magnus Carlsson's first controversy he once accused an opponent of having radio-controlled objects inserted in a certain bodily orifice signaling which move to make That matter was eventually resolved, but Mr. Carlson's sartorial choices look set to remain a running sore in the world of chess. I think the chess game has just gotten interesting to watch. I think my clip has got more information that's a little more interesting. Oh, you have a clip about Dr. Drunkenstein? It doesn't discuss that. It discusses the fact that nobody can beat this guy. Chess champ.

2:42:24 The world's top chess player, Magnus Carlsen, quit the World Rapid Chess Championship in New York today after he was told to change out of his jeans to abide by a dress code. The Norwegian chess grandmaster was fined $200 yesterday and given a warning by the International Chess Federation to change the clothes or be disqualified. He told the chess channel Take Take Take he was told he had to change immediately so he quit and he says he won't appeal the decision. Quitting means the 34-year-old, who became a grandmaster at 13, won't be able to defend his title in the World Blitz Championship, where he's a seven-time champ. Wait a minute. There's a chess channel? Yeah. Seven-time champ at this event. They kicked him out, obviously, for the reason he's going to win again. This is bullcrap. There's controversy in the chess world.

2:43:19 And he was a grandmaster at 13? That's amazing. That's a smart kid. Hey, you ready? Well, let's do a prelim. There's a lot of things I've decided or noticed. A lot of my talk clips, I call them talk, are actually from elsewhere. Well, let me just set you up here. We need to have the jingle to get everyone ready. Talk, tick-tock. All right. And I've also noticed something. Yes. Most of the people in a lot of these clips have nose rings. It's a thing these days. People have nose rings. And I think the nose ring is subconsciously

2:44:07 announcing to the world that you like to be led around by the nose, because that's the same kind of ring that a cow would have. And so you're actually saying to the public, even though you don't even know it probably, it's subconscious, you're saying, I'd like to be led around by the nose, so my opinions of things are actually somebody else's. I'm being led to say these things. I honestly believe that to be true. Excellent analysis. I cannot refute that. And so all these clips today are people with nose rings. Let's start with, this is not from the, this doesn't say tug, this one is Cal, C-A-L.

2:44:42 Pronoun Rapist. A convicted criminal who served time at the women's prison in Chowchilla is charged with raping fellow inmates. A Madera County judge says Tremaine Carroll must be referred to with she her pronouns but the district attorney is pushing back because the 52 year old Carroll is a biological male and the decision could impact the pursuit of justice. Court records show Carroll was convicted in Los Angeles County in 1993 for aggravated kidnapping for the purpose of ransom or to commit another crime. Carroll is now serving time in a men's prison as this rape case moves forward. Action News reporter Brianna Willis spoke with the district attorney about the potential impact of the pronoun ruling.

2:45:25 A Madera County judge ruled this week 52 year old state prisoner Tremaine Carroll must be referred to with she her pronouns because Carroll identifies as a woman. But the district attorney believes the defendant is abusing the system. This is a person who's not a woman in any sense of the word. In March, DA Sally Moreno charged Carroll for rape allegedly committed while incarcerated at the Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla. After his first cellmate became pregnant and was moved to Los Angeles, two other cellmates of his complained that he had raped them. So we have filed rape charges against this inmate.

2:46:03 Moreno says the ruling re her ability to prosecute issue in this case because jury in California. Rape has to be accomplished by D. A. Eric do temple says i the victims. It's just ab a victim would have to get on the stand and police their pronouns and their usage when trying to recite one of the most scariest times in their lives. Carroll was allowed to serve time in a women's prison despite being a biological male because of Senate Bill 132, the Transgender Respect Agency and Dignity Act, which took effect in 2021. Wow. I'm going to change my opinion of, uh,

2:46:51 of making Canada the 51st state, I think we should give California to Canada. Yeah, well, I can see that conceptual penis. Oh, man. Yeah. Isn't that unbelievable? The Senate bill, it was makes it so this guy, all you have to say is you're a woman. You have to put you in a woman's prison. This is unbelievably stupid, but that's California. So let's listen to the TikTok clips. These are these are the more this is let's start with talk. This is a guy, a guy with a nose ring. Yack it away. Me and my girlfriend were going to a wine castle and we sat down for our tasting and at first they were just very rude and didn't really answer our questions and we didn't really feel welcome. Our server said yes. You had something to say about my uptalk clips, holy moly. Really feel welcome? Our server said yes sir when I was asking some questions and I said oh no no no I'm actually

2:47:44 not a sir. And instead of apologizing or I don't know what else you would do other than apologize, they just walked away. Did not acknowledge what I said, just walked away. We saw the server like whispering to a manager and a few minutes later the manager came over in a really big smile not acknowledging at all that the misgender had happened. And I say, hey, look, the last person, they misgendered me and that really hurt. And they just walked away. And the manager said, oh, well, some people just aren't as progressive as you. And then they gave us a nice little chocolate that suggested they wanted our money but didn't want to say sorry. So we left and got a full refund. It's one thing to get misgendered and then get an apology. But it's another thing to get misgendered and then be told that it's okay and not to worry about it. And here's a chocolate.

2:48:31 Again, this is narcissism at its peak in culture. It's all about me and how I feel and how I want to identify and look at my nose ring. Yeah, this guy had one too. Yeah, it's sad and these people need help. And here we had now this one is a carryover. From the last show I resisted playing it. This is another woman and I believe she has a nose ring. And she has just, this is, the only way I can describe this clip is this is just loony ramblings. Good news, it doesn't matter who you voted for. If you really thought Trump was going to have your back and you're disappointed, here's the good news guys.

2:49:15 Apparently, Amendment 14, Article 3 states that Trump is technically disqualified because he was found guilty of an attempted insertion. This wonderful book... Attempted what? Insertion? An attempted insertion, yes. He was found guilty by the way of this attempted insertion. States that Trump is technically disqualified because he was found guilty of an attempted insertion. This wonderful, brilliant young woman posted it this morning and I don't remember her name but I reposted. If this is so, I know it's the holiday season.

2:49:58 Whomever has these skills community organizers if you could please make it super easy for all of us no excuse To email call our representatives to demand an amnesty act To avoid vice president Trump from taking office vice president and Trump listen you've never been my favorite person did she say vice president Trump? Yeah, that's exactly what she said. To avoid Vice President Trump from taking office. And Trump, listen, you've never been my favorite person. You're a person, you're somebody's father, grandfather, but I never understood why he'd be so hateful.

2:50:45 And I understand that you were afraid to go to jail, so you sold your soul. Listen, it's scary. You've been rich, a white rich man your whole life to suddenly go to jail. You sold your soul. But here's the thing, it's not a good look. You've kind of regressed and even you deserve better. Your father was an abusive narcissist and here you are once again being made to look small by this narcissistic, abusive, billionaire who is pulling your strings because he bought you your freedom and he is now president and it's really pathetic. You deserve better. Well this is a fine case of what you say about yourself. Narcissistic. Why else would this loony go on TikTok to ramble like this? I just baffle by it every time I get one of these clips. What is... I wish...

2:51:44 It would be even better if we could see it. Have you ever felt the urge to go on one-on-one, have a camera in your car? By the way, these are always in somebody's car. Yeah, this is because that's your personal narcissist studio. It's your little studio. Yeah. And have you ever found the urge just to go on and ramble about something like, you know, your personal gripe about the day or something? I mean, it's just beyond me. I just completely, it's baffling. That's why I get these clips because I just like, Wow, what happened here? I'm still stuck on attempted insertion to be honest. Attempted insertion.

2:52:35 You were gonna say something? He was found guilty of attempted attempted insertion. That's right. I mean that goes perfectly with the end of show mix about the Erection that he that he did. Yeah that guy did the end of show mix as an erection clip to where they got so I didn't half of these I never heard. Yeah, they're good. I thought I heard most of them. Yeah, the January 6 erection. Yes. We are here to thank the rest of our producers $50 and above is still on the way We do have the end of show mix We have a couple of title upgrades and of course the tip of the day Everyone's very excited about it. John take us through the 50s if you don't mind Yes, let's start off with MSR in Germantown Wisconsin $150 then we have Sir Donald which you already did Dame Danny and Sir Jeff and Mount Shasta one two three four five

2:53:28 And these people are always wishing us Happy New Year, by the way, all of them. Hedy, good old Hedy in Trudy, Truckee, California, 117.54. This amounts in homage to RFK's upcoming birthday, which is 117.54. That's what she gave us, 117.54. Interesting. She used to donate to KPFA, but Got wise and that gives us... And by the way, the same thing should be said about PBS. Eric Reinhardt in San Antonio, Texas 105.35. Dame Dane in Binnington, Czech Republic, I think that's... Oh, no, Switzerland, sorry. That's Switzerland. She's in Switzerland, 9272 with a happy New Year.

2:54:23 McKenna in Hutchinson, Kansas, 84th 38. Kevin McLaughlin, there he is finally, 8008. He's the Archduke Aluno lover of America and boobs and that is a boob donation along with Christian Grulish in Winter Haven, Florida with 8008. And Jonathan Rupert in Oakland, California, who's 8008 and wishing his smoking hot wife, Baroness Sarah, Happy birthday, Jorge Alvarez in Ponte Verde Beach, Florida 7171 Craig Kohler in Evansville, Ellen, Indiana 6502 which is a chip James Buell in Vista, California 6006 Edward Bala Bala Bala and Cork. He's in Cork, Ireland

2:55:16 5678. Surprise in Yukon, Oklahoma. 5444 Kevin Adam in Clover, South Carolina. 5272. Carnie Woodland in Worthington, Ohio, 5272. This is a switcheroo donation for her smoking hot husband Doug. And he needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched. David Hudson in Lombard, Illinois, 5272 with the reminder to tip your garbage man. That's right, I did. I did it before we left. You did now. I always tip the garbage. How do you do this? What was the mechanism? Did you run out there at five in the morning when they came up to pick up the garbage? How'd you do this? Well, as you know, we have a private garbage pickup because we are unincorporated. And so we have our dudes from Gillespie County Waste Management. And I ran out there at 845 was when they come and pick it up. And he got out of his truck and I complimented his big truck.

2:56:17 He has a new truck and by the way, if I forget to put my garbage out, I can text him and say, oh bro, I forgot to put my garbage out. He comes back and picks it up. And so I gave him a little Christmas card with a tip. Oh nice. I give bottles of wine. I have too much wine in the cellar. Okay. Eric Hockel in Mulrose, Deutschland, $52. There he is and his name's coming through for a change. Yes, amazing. Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve, our buddy here in Santa Rosa, California, $51.50. Please shout out the meetup at Old Kaz in Roanoke Park next Saturday, 1-425.

2:57:06 And he's going to be at the Mallard Club at 2125. Scott Nelson in Council Bluffs, Iowa, 5001. Now, the following people are all $50 donors and not a lot of them, surprisingly. And I'll just give the names and locations. Starting with Richard Gardner, who I think is in New York, John Taylor in Florissant, Colorado, Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon. Circumference, or I'm sorry, circumstance, not to be mixed up with circumference, in Rancho Palos Verdes, California. Bobby Bosch?

2:57:42 Bobby boy, no, no, no Bobby boy. Oh boy. No boy Bobby boy, Bobby boy, you know, she's writing a note Making a big point of saying don't forget it's pronounced boy. You keep her mispronouncing it out that work. That's a It didn't work out because I said it wrong again, but it is pronounced boy boy Bobby boy Bobby's got a lot of attention on this show this year blue grass and she's in bluegrass, Iowa which I assume is grassy and Finally on the list a short list is leaf Thompson in Meridian, Idaho He came with the last $50. I want to thank him and everybody else for helping us out on show. I

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2:59:11 And we missed a title change on show 1721. Kim donated to upgrade her title to Archduchess. It was missed in the title change segment and of course she wonders if she can now have the title of Black Archduchess and I think she can. No! It's been approved here on my spreadsheet. It wasn't approved by the committee. Well, Kim Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers is now Archduchess Kim Keeper of the Nutty Fluffers. You take it up with the committee, Kim. Commodore Sir Prime becomes Commodore Sir Prime, Baron of Southeast Delaware County, Region of Pennsylvania. And Sir Schwoo of the Six Strings becomes Baron Schwoo of the Six Strings. Thank you all very much for supporting the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more. Yes? I will mention this. Yes?

3:00:06 We have long ago determined that the only thing you can be a black, you can be a black knight because it's like a thing, a black knight. But a black baron, a black duke, a black this, a black that. Unless I can be talked out of it, I don't think it's appropriate. Well, I think you should call HR and have HR talk to Jay because she put black archduchess in my prep. Yeah, I realized that that's what she did, but she did it on her own accord. We can't have that. Have HR give her a talking to. She's gone rogue.

3:00:41 Now we have a couple of Commodores, which is very nice to see. We congratulate the following Commodores. Sir Prime, I realize we've got the wrong thing here. Hold on a second. Are those Commodores or are those Doctors of Education? There's Doctors of Education. I made a mistake. Let me try that again. No one will know the difference when I edit it in post. And now we have a couple of Doctors, brand new Doctorates of Education. And we congratulate Commodore Sir Prime on his Doctor of Education in Climate Change Studies, along with R.S. Bagwell and Mike Schweitzer, better known as Baron Schwoe of the Sixth Rings. Congratulations, brand new Doctors of Education. Sorry, the bird flu got the bird flu got me. The bird flu got me. Oh, yeah. How do you feel? You were sick last show. We both feel pretty bad.

3:01:38 I mean, well, you sounded good because you sounded sick on the show like I think once. John, I have been near death. I've been without teeth. I've been divorced twice and you've never heard about it on the show. That's just who I am, bro. No, there was one time you did sound sick on the show. Oh, okay. No, a little jet lag, but actually we took the ivermectin and we sailed through it. And I recommend everybody we take ivermectin twice a week. It's a drop of a hat apparently. Well, we take it twice a week as a prophylactic and I think it helped because I know who I got this from. I know who I got this thing from and now Christina has it. But we did okay. I mean, we had the jet lag. We're flying around Europe so we are, we of course are super spreaders.

3:02:28 But in general, we take it on Thursdays and Sundays, show days, just in case. For my weight and height, I take 20 milligrams of ivermectin two times a week. And took an extra six milligrams when it hit me, which was a week ago, and got through pretty good. I mean, yeah, I had just still some lingering cough, but that's just what bird flu does. You know, it's okay. So that is not medical advice. It's just telling you what I know. It's not medical advice and you should get tested. Yeah. Big party going down on Monday, New Year's Eve, Eve, Eve. I like pizza, Steve. That is the meetup.

3:03:15 December 30th. That's three years. Eve is Tuesday. New Year's Eve, Eve, New Year's Eve, Eve, Eve. We did this last show. Oh yeah, you did this. I ever did. So often do a TV. Yeah, there's a TV. Yes, that's bald, bald man brewing and Egan, Minnesota. And that's one of our Southwest pilots who are organizing that go and say hi. Then on Thursday, our next show day, which is January 2nd, Northern Wake Public Slave Gathering, 6 o'clock at Saints and Scholars in Raleigh, North Carolina. We have many more meetups well into the new year. In fact, I even see Longview, Texas on the list for June 29th. Some of these things are planned well in advance, some of them pop up

3:03:54 Later on, and a reminder, what was the one we needed to promote? We have Colorado Springs on January 4th, Rohnert Park, California, January 4th, Yukon, Oklahoma on the 4th, and Baton Rouge, Louisiana on the 4th. And of course, we all need to remember that there is a meeting in Albany, California meet up on February 1st. And John will be there. And kids will be running around. That's the kind of meetups we like to run over. No, that was at the Mallard. No kids. Oh, no kids. Keep your kids out of here. If you'd like to learn more about the meetups, and I recommend you go to at least one, you can find information at noagendameetups.com. It is a great website. Sir Daniel manages that for us, part of our time, talents, and treasure. We appreciate that very much. Mimi always sends me the list. We appreciate that. Go to noagendameetups.com, find one near you. If you can't find one, start one yourself. It's easy and always a party.

3:04:50 Well, good news. Good news, you have four ISOs. That's good news! Because, uh... I don't have any. I do have one that someone sent me, which is funny, but it's too long. I just thought it was interesting and I'll play it. So guys, time to teleport you to the ISO zone! You can just use it for a jingle for the ISO zone. I had no idea that was out there. So, luckily you have four to choose from, so I'm very happy about that.

3:05:41 Okay, let's start with Christmas Christmas was a little different. Where do you get these? Where do you get these from that one? It came from an NPR? discussion from some up talking Characters and this woman says Chris was a little different at least in my house. Oh, yeah That was pretty good. It's pretty good Now we have tried this one try this is I think podcast to a podcast I could not have done better than that podcast Not bad, I like it I like it then we have so much thank you so much. It's my pleasure. No, that's too muddy It is muddy. I should have rejected rejected and then great shows that was a year of great shows boys Well, is that that's not hard

3:06:32 I mean, that's like written for us. Exactly. That was a year of great shows, boys. That is fantastic. Where'd you get that from? I don't remember. Okay, good work. And now, ladies and gentlemen, time for John C. Dvorak's tip of the day. Creative lives for you and me. Just a tip with JCD. And sometimes Adam. Created by Dana Brunetti. That, by the way, is Baron Sir Shwu, who did that jingle for us. That was pretty good. Yeah. Sir Shwu knows what he's doing. He's a musician.