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00:00 It's just blah, blah, blah, blah. Edited by CBS and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where are we advise you to stop using the word triage! I think we should use that all the time during our show

00:39 We're triaging all the clips we got, triaging all the boots on the ground so we can make sure we get all the right stuff out there. Triaging... I kind of like it! Yeah... Sorry, I was watching one of those Fox shows that Fox Fox morning. Chatterboxes, they like to say triage for everything The fox chatterbox? There you go that's a good one! The fox chatterbox yeah the triage So it seems to me like okay it sucks but I think the weather people kind of got it all wrong wasn't everyone supposed to be dead and destroyed and everything swept away in the storm surge drowned everybody yet they forgot to predict the tornadoes

01:24 126 of them to be exact. Where was that prediction? I didn't hear anyone say... Well, it matters not they can predict the climate but they can't predict this. Yeah. It happens the next day. Yeah, of course we're- We are, of course. By the way, I want to say that Santus DeSantis Dee Santis Dee Santas. He's like- I was watching his entire press conference This guy really is a good governor He just seems to be on top of everything. He's got the facts in front him, he goes on and on and on, he's got all kinds of details, he's smart enough to do stuff in advance. And the thing that impressed me most was a couple days ago when he says we're closing all the toll booths at all this expressway so people can get out there without having to stop and pay five bucks to get through. Yeah that makes sense. Just one thing after another if it wasn't for that whiny voice of his

02:20 And even though he's not wearing the white boots, you still can't get that out of your head. You still see him with the white boots. It's hard to visualize him without those. Competency is just a combination of things but he's definitely a governor you'd like to have as governor Yes But every, I mean we have lots of friends and lots of course there's lots of producers in Florida. And the reporting was just freaking everybody out it was... Of course it's not great there's no doubt, no doubt there's a problem but it's not at all the destruction that we were sold. I feel gypped! The tornadoes that's the thing that got me though what? Not a single mention of that

03:03 And then these were not like little tornadoes. These were big twisters just appeared out of nowhere blowing up stuff left and right, yeah? Yeah, they had the funny as there was mentioned that you know in Florida where they do have tornadoes on occasion especially with some accompanying some hurricanes You can't build tornado shelters because the water table so high no you can it's like you know The water table is right under the house So, of course we hope everyone's okay and that the damage isn't too bad. We won't know really for a little bit but they had no good reports I didn't have anyone blowing over from the wind... The wind didn't even seem- I mean you know what? I've been doing it because oh man so- By the way Cooper- Pooper?

03:54 Yeah, Pooper. He was on scene and he got hit by debris! Oh no! A piece of styrofoam hit him and it was like a disaster. I don't want to make light of it because you know if your house is flooded... It sucks. Or even gone? If it's gone that's what seemed the wind damage seemed to be pretty minimal. Well I don't think so The wind damage was all the damage. Well, here's the one that made me kind of smile... So it's a stadium with a vinyl roof

04:48 where a team plays that no one cares about, but that was the news. That was a very flimsy roof it looked just like vinyl. It was! Yeah so okay... Just a coated roof yeah it wasn't really oh it was more of a balloon roof yeah So and of course uh the I will say by the way this sound really does stink What do you mean? What you're hearing from me? Yeah. It's not like it... I don't know what the chat room thinks, but it's not like it-I can't understand you. It's just a lousy phone connection. Oh that's interesting! No, sounds good for everyone there. Let me see is there uh

05:34 Let me see. I want to make sure speech optimized, we don't want that we want music optimized hold on a second let me see if that'll break every for your musical tones yes from my musical stylings John from my musical styling styling maybe maybe that's better i don't know but it's uh what you're hearing is not what was recording so of course I can't get away from they modified the weather They seeded the clouds, they steered it that way. DeSantis had a good commentary on this too I wish i'd clipped it which came in late It was this morning He said he basically said he says Bose did a good job of balancing because he condemned the idea that they're changing the weather because these hurricanes he says this happens all the time The worst hurricane he points out was

06:29 on the famous Labor Day hurricane of the 1930s, which was worse than anything. And he says this is hurricane season's hurricane weather and you get these hurricanes as he says but it's not just the right not mentioning Marjorie Taylor Greene. He says there's also the left who blames everything on fossil fuels so we did a really good balancing act. This guy is very talented governor Well, there was a couple of clips because it was worth playing since Biden they rolled by now. This may have been the real Biden you can't tell when he's if he's not standing up it's hard to see if I can't see the back of his head at all if its Biden or daddy long legs but he came out and slurred something about on for a lot of lies. There is simply no place for this to happen former President Trump has led the onslaught of lies

07:24 The decisions have been made that property is being confiscated. That's simply not true! They're saying people impacted by these storms will receive $750 in cash and no more, that's simply not true! They're saying the money needed for this crisis is being diverted to migrants What a ridiculous thing to say it's not true! Now their claims are getting even more bizarre Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene, a congresswoman from Georgia is now saying the federal government is literally controlling the weather. We're controlling the weather! It's beyond ridiculous it's got to stop moments like this there are no red or blue states

08:06 There's one United States of America where neighbors are helping neighbors. Volunteers and first responders risking everything, including their own lives to help their fellow Americans. So that was a very real stately there Joe And MSNBC really ran with this ball and thank goodness we're connecting this to climate change. I mean it took, they didn't do it... I've got clips They didn't do it during Helene but oh no! No they did a big time on this one Yeah so let's just start with a few and then I'll do a few Chris Hayes clips because man he was hot

08:45 over there on MSNBC. Hurricane Helene just showed us how this phenomenon is wreaking havoc even in areas previously thought to be safe from these kinds of storms to

09:25 There was a huge, there was an equally large storm in 1916. There was one as recent as 2014 What? So but then they have this like this footage of birds chirping and oh it's a haven we're safe here uh-huh But last week that paradise turned out to be an illusion Oh my god! Battering the area for days Hold on stop a second stop stop The idea, you know this is an interesting form of reporting where you create a false scenario. Yeah! And then you report on it for so you create... It's classic what these guys do they should be ashamed themselves at NBC News No I think they're doing a great job this is that they're doing exactly what they're paid to do to promote climate change

10:16 and at the same time discredit Trump and anyone else who's in his camp. Ripping apart homes, washing out roads, toppling trees and cutting off entire towns new research out this week says there is strong evidence human-driven climate change strengthened Helene's destructive power. Strong evidence Helene strengthened Strengthened by human-made climate change. So, it just strengthened it. It's a multiplier... A force multiplier. The term is rapid intensification we'll get to that. Human driven climate change strengthened Haleem's destructive power One study saying it made the storm's rainfall up to 20% heavier and its winds 7% stronger We're seeing these events that are boosted by climate change

11:05 stronger, wetter lasting longer. Another report found that a warmer climate led to 50% more rain over parts of the Carolinas and Georgia than would have been expected You know it's just as a little entremont clip here So it's stronger, it's wetter. PBS had this to say about last year. And 2023 was the driest year for the world's rivers in more than three decades! I mean make up your mind is it going to be wetter or is it gonna be drier? They can't seem to figure out what its going to be. Unfortunately there's no coordinated messaging No central command Exactly If they set that up

11:47 We wouldn't have these issues. Curry Dvorak Consulting Group, we're available. We can do it! We're available. Alright so let's just face the fact climate change is responsible for everything. Storms like Helene and what we expect to come from Milton are exactly precisely what experts have been screaming about for decades now As John Morales told Nicole Wallace, it is why he got so emotional over last night's forecast. When I saw 50 millibars in 10 hours, I just broke down with a mixture of empathy, angst over these increasing extreme weather events and also frustration

12:23 Because for over 20 years I've been trying to communicate on what would be coming if we did not check the injection of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. And well, here we are and it's not going to get any better." This guy was crying on the air! You know this is funny you have that clip from Chris Hayes because in my little series of hurricane clips its included Exactly this, well not exactly but pretty much the same clip only he's crying more from NPR. The same guy? This is a coordinated effort Do you know which clip that is can we play that real quick I'd rather play the whole series Okay alright alright I'll get through this thing So we are now preparing for the second major climate change fueled hurricane in two weeks which could put a dangerous strain on federal resources Climate fueled

13:16 New York Times reports the Federal Emergency Management Agency is running out of staff to deal with the potential devastation of Hurricane Norma. As of Monday morning, just 9% of FEMA's personnel were available to respond to the hurricane or other disasters. Now while FEMA says it is well equipped handled strains, It is a reminder that challenge more frequent natural disasters. The times... What did he say? He said nine percent responded to one of their dude boys at Helene? Yes. Well, I thought they were like all hands on deck! Yeah but the rest is at the border helping people at the border getting them into hotels As Monday morning just 9% of FEMA's personnel were available to respond Oh that was available where's 90% Where are the other 91%? That must be in Western North Carolina And thousands and thousands and thousands of people Well I hope there in Western North Carolina

14:12 But they should have figured out anyway. Let's just continue. The hurricane or other disasters, while FEMA says it is well equipped to handle the strains It is a reminder of the challenge of more frequent natural disasters. The Times noting that FEMA also responding to flooding and land signs in Vermont tornadoes in Kansas the aftermath of Tropical Storm Debbie in New York and Georgia And the watch fire in Arizona and those are just disasters that were declared in the past two weeks Okay, so now Chris gets... Wait, I want to point out. I want you to remember that he said more frequent. Yeah, more frequent because in my series of clips I got a little contradiction in here good good So now Chris Hayes gets into some math

14:53 Which is just astounding. I'm not a climate scientist, nor is he Remember what? I'm telling you right now what we're looking at right now in the last week What we're preparing for with Milton This is what we are now facing with global average temperatures a little over one degree Celsius higher than the pre-industrial average Okay, well that's 1% Imagine what it will look like when we reach 2 degrees twice as bad So if it's two degrees that'll be twice as bad or three or four That is the world. It'll be four times as bad if we were yeah, so let's see it goes from let's say Yeah one degree higher which would be a percent what a point five percent some small percentage But somehow it's gonna be twice as bad. It's gonna double and then if it's three how does that work exactly? Exactly it's fake news for three or four oh that is the world

15:45 Donald Trump would push us towards the best if he returns to the White House. Not that he cares, but he thinks it would be good for real estate values. When I hear these people talking about global warming... That's the global warming you have to worry about not that the ocean is going to rise in 400 years an eighth of an inch and you'll have more seafront property right if that happens? Is that good or bad? I said, isn't that a good thing? If i have a little property on the ocean. I have a little bit more property. I have a little bit more ocean Okay Every time we play this clip We just got to stop for one second think about that for give it 10 seconds of your brainpower okay if the oceans rise Do you have more beachfront property does that make sense the oceans rise do more beachfront or let you've less he said more ocean

16:32 Anyway, so at least we know it's all Donald Trump's fault. Yes, Donald Trump's fault. And I will play this last clip and then we'll play your clips and then I'll come back to some of the conspiracy theories. This has got to be my favorite. Now, we've known for decades our planet is warming that we would start seeing the brutal effects but conservatives remain so deep in their denial they're flailing around for anyone or anything else to blame Republican Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene who is now like a big mover and shaker on the Republican Party promoting a bizarre conspiracy theory about a mysterious they. You can imagine who that is? So on the screen, they have her tweet which says yes they can control the weather always remember that so that's what she said and I think we can prove that that is probably true not that this was the case

17:21 But that's the tweet. government figured out how to build a storm into a superstorm that will destroy everything in its path and then how to aim it right. Now he's just playing some rando guys from I don't know YouTube or whatever who are just talking crap. But when they want to aim it, it just happens to miss South Florida where all the Democrats live

18:00 Something strange is going on. These are Trump counties. Why don't we hire some actors to do stuff like this? This is great, this is great. Something strange is going on! These are Trump counties and don't tell me for a second that what we're not seeing is a massive government-pushed voter suppression operation. You know it's largely a Republican area so some people say they did it for that reason I I don't even think they're that bad, but they probably may be. Random clip making it sound like Trump is talking about some weather modification which he's not. Maybe they are? They are sending the storms. Donald Trump is running, maybe Jeanne Vance!

18:43 Found a way to get in on it too, blaming it on immigrants. You have FEMA which is there for disaster relief for American citizens after a terrible storm being deployed repeatedly to deal with Kamala Harris's wide open border and the migrant invasion that its caused That lack of focus on their core mission that distraction focusing instead on illegal immigrants I guarantee that has made the disaster response worse Alright so I want to come back to those conspiracy theories Wait wait did he Was that played on his show? That was Vance. That last part of the clip? Yeah, yeah he played that. That's dumb! I'm saying that because he's trying to build a case and then he throws something out there which actually is reasonable Yes And if i'm listening to it so oh well that's interesting

19:32 These guys don't even know how to do this right. All right, so I want to come back to the weather modification and conspiracy theories but first let's get into your clips before we drift too far. Yeah let's get these out of the way yeah this is a series that's on NPR This is part of a long presentation on Hurricane Overview and it brings in everything we need that starts with hurricane overview N O A. The damage Hurricane Milton could cause is chilling, but maybe it shouldn't be surprising to you. This season is looking to be an extraordinary one in a number of ways. That was Rick Spinrad head of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration last May rolling out the federal agency's annual hurricane outlook. Noah is predicting an above average 2024 Atlantic hurricane season Of note

20:20 The forecast for named storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes is the highest NOAA has ever issued for the May outlook. One big reason for that record-breaking hurricane forecast? Record breaking hot water temperatures in the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico Now, the number of hurricanes this year has not yet broken records. But the intensity of some storms has been breathtaking. It's just an incredible, incredible hurricane. Incredible, incredible... I didn't do that by the way! Oh really? That sounded like a Dvorak repeats sweetening. Nope. Oh interesting

20:59 He said that. So it goes on, this is like they're trying to build a case for... What do you think they're going to build the case for? And it comes up right away I did early in the clippage That hot water in the Gulf allows storms to intensify at unbelievable speeds as Hurricane Milton did on Monday afternoon A fact that moved veteran Florida meteorologist John Morales nearly to tears It has dropped 50 millibars in 10 hours I apologize. This is just horrific Later in that same report, Morales cited those hot ocean temperatures and explained where they came from. You know what's driving that? I don't need to tell you global warming climate change leading to this and becoming an increasing threat. It's interesting Tina lived in Florida for 15 years live through a number of hurricanes And I said was the millibar was the pressure ever an issue says I know anything about that no one ever talked about millibars it

22:03 It's always been the wind speed. This seems to be a new metric they're pulling in. That's interesting, you're right because I've noticed it before now i think what's interest also interesting and hit the overuse that word but is this guys in tears he's obviously an emotional wreck probably somebody shouldn't trust with any with your children or guns Or guns. Definitely no guns with that guy! Red flag, and so you... So this is the guy that goes right to climate change? So he's an unstable person now who's going talking about climate change This is like okay I'm not gonna even-I shouldn't be listening to this guy if he can't

22:42 objectively report on the news without crying about it. Well, he was doing his job! He's an actor. NPR climate editor Rachel Waldholz has been looking into how a warming planet contributes to these storms and what climate change could mean for the future of catastrophic weather events. Hi Rachel. Hi Ari First Helene now Milton are these two massive hurricanes in just about 2 weeks evidence that we are seeing more frequent storm activity than in the past? So actually no. No, no! You better come up with something better than that. That's why I wanted to mention a call back to Chris Hayes saying they're more frequent Yeah he's full of crap He is totally full of crap The numbers are there everyone can see the numbers has just been less of them certainly this year

23:32 So let's go. OK, so onward to four we haven't seen an increase in the number of hurricanes hitting the US but climate change is making many storms more intense, so more powerful with way more rain, more dangerous storm surge, more flooding and so while the total number of hurricanes isn't increasing So, dangerous storms are becoming more common and that can definitely make it feel like we're getting more overall. So let's get to the climate change piece of this. We know that a warming planet includes warming oceans explain why warming oceans helped a storm like Milton explode into a category five as it moved across the Gulf before eventually weakening?

24:13 Yes, exploded before it actually got to landfall and it was a three. It actually crapped out? Yeah did! So we have this narrative going on and right in the middle of it you have to do a call back to climate isn't weather Yes, correct. They pounded it into us climate isn't weather or whether is weather isn't climate I think was the exact phrase Either one. It's the same thing, but the point is that they'd always bring that out when it was freezing cold we had this really cold... No no no! It has nothing to do with it but now there's a little disaster going on yeah, zig-zag sale and this what causing it. So they go on before clip five I put the word skip in there because I skipped over a whole long lecture about how hot

25:13 that water pushes up into the hurricane and goes on and on and on about this. And so, we end up with this after listening to that for five minutes, we go to this. Okay. So warm oceans translate to stronger storms but there's another element here which is that climate change adds to sea level rise which can create a bigger storm surge right? Explain Yeah, so climate change is driving rising sea levels and some of the fastest rates of sea level rise in the world actually are along The Gulf Coast. So that's driven by melting ice on land like the Greenland Ice Sheet but also as water gets warmer... Wait a minute wait wait wait! Let me understand. So the ice sheet is melting and therefore the water in the gulf gets warmer? In the gulf! In the gulf it gets warmer from the melting ice sheets? No, it goes up

26:04 Yeah, of course it does. That's driven by melting ice on land like the Greenland Ice Sheet. No but I think she said it got warmer let me see... Driving rising sea levels and some of the fastest rates of sea level rise in the world actually are along the Gulf Coast. Oh! I can't believe I'm not how come? How come don't have beachfront property here in the heart of Texas? I should So that's driven by melting ice on land like the Greenland Ice Sheet but also as water gets warmer it expands So then when a storm like Milton comes along driving this huge wall of water in front of it and water levels are already higher than they used to be, that's a recipe for really catastrophic storm surge. And right now we're seeing predictions of 15 feet of storm surge in some places. I don't think it reaches- Doesn't water expand when you freeze it? Yeah yes. Doesn't it? Yes. Why are you bringing logic to the show? Stop it!

26:58 You know, so it turns out they've also not only have they added this new metric of barometric pressure. Millibars? Yes in millibars not inches which is interesting we do that in millibars things because it looks bigger in millibars you know instead of saying 29.9. So millibars because then I was like oh it's 900 millibars there seems to also have been an interesting reshuffling of the category with wind speeds And I was unaware of this, but we do have the best producers in the universe. So a category one storm is wind speeds of 74 to 95 miles an hour that's at 22 mile per hour range A category two storm however is 96 to 110 miles per hour that's 15 mile per hour range Why?

27:55 Why, I don't understand why. Then we have category 3 which we call a major storm is 111- Stop asking questions! Exactly Which is a 111 to 129 mile per hour That's a 19 mile per hour range and then Category 4 now this is the interesting category four Is anywhere from 130 to 156 So now all of a sudden that's a 27 mile per hour range. So it seems like they're driving everything into at least the cat four and then a cat five is anything over 157. This reminds me a little bit of the changes they made to the Richter scale and became the momentum scale for earthquakes, whatever it is now we don't know

28:48 So now we get into everybody spinning up and spinning out, including friends of mine. Good friends of mine like oh this was to disrupt the election! To which I say okay first of all North Carolina blue so that wasn't the intent. It's got a Democrat governor yes it's a blue state but then you do Florida like okay so what are you really disrupting? We have an electoral college You know, so it's not going to make any difference. If you do it in Pennsylvania and Georgia... Yeah that's where you'd want to do it! Or Michigan. Steer it that way. Blow up Michigan

29:31 So, I have to just spend a little bit on these theories of weather modification because there's you know you can look at it several different ways. French24 dove right into it! More broadly do we know are there ways to try and mitigate the dangers of hurricanes? Well actually scientists have long searched for a way attenuate or even prevent the formation of hurricanes, or at least to try and change their track. It started after World War II with a project Cyrus that was financed by GE but also the US Army and what they did is that they projected dry ice straight into the hurricane thinking that... By the way it's very irritating but in France they don't say hurricane, they say shuricane for some reason. Hurricane! ...it was going modify the cloud envelope and change the structure of the hurricane

30:17 You know, observed somewhat of some changes in the appearance of the hurricane but they couldn't establish a very strong causal effect. So then there was another project that was little bit more known called The Storm Fury Project and it lasted for 20 years and it was funded by US government And here they did what we call cloud seeding so here they dumped what we call silver iodide salt crystals and once again thinking that it would modify the structure, increase the condensation and change the hurricane from within. And they used it on several hurricanes in the 60s Esther, Bola, Debbie, Ginger at first the results were encouraging but then they stopped once again because there wasn't a strong causal effect They couldn't say that these silver crystals were really the reason why the hurricane had changed trajectory or intensity

31:06 And there's another idea as well, Julia. This was a really rather creepy one and this is dropping an atomic bomb to blow out in inverted commas a newly formed hurricane tell us about this? Well exactly thank God they didn't use it of course so this would have produced radioactive fallout in a big way and of course environmental issues but they did consider Okay, so there's been lots of experiments. So it's no wonder that people discuss these things and one of those experiments actually veered the hurricane off in a wrong direction and people got very angry at the government Now it doesn't help that Lyndon Johnson President Lyndon Johnson was quite jitty about the whole concept What lays the foundation for development of weather satellites?

31:50 that will permit man to determine the world's cloud layer and ultimately, to control the weather. And he who controls the weather will control the world." Yeah! He who controls the weather will control the world. That is a great clip to bring back. It is classic. You listen to the commentators... What you're doing right now should have been done by Fox for example We're more interested in using the word triage instead of prioritizing. And it also doesn't help that CIA director John O Brennan also kind of alluded to this as promising as it may be moving forward on essay he's going to talk about stratospheric s was at S

32:40 SAI stratospheric aerosol injection. As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would also raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community On the technical side greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects such as ocean acidification because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere On the geopolitical side, the technology's potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions of the world at expense of other regions could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI's benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions

33:26 And as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI and other geoengineering initiatives. I could go on and on and on about the things that fascinate me. Yeah, of course it fascinates him because weather modification you can rule the world so this is where these conspiracies come from and we have a... just to defend Marjorie Taylor Greene she didn't say anything wrong She didn't it was a very short tweet and I think she was spot-on

34:02 It's inflammatory, you know. It's what Marjorie Taylor dreamed... It's nutty? That's what she does! She is notorious. We have a knight who is very high up in and he wants to remain anonymous I have to say carefully In one of the larger American weather modification associations And so he has a lot of background. I checked him out So I can't talk about him per se, but he says look. Look! He said there is no evidence that there was any weather modification done in these two instances I'm just going to take him at his word and that's sure he's correct yes and if he checks out and i can't believe that they don't have something someone like him on Fox & Friends No instead we have to deal with

34:57 insane things and whenever I get an eight second clip, I'm like wait a minute. And even just listening to this clip because it was only audio, I knew right away that this was not the director of FEMA. We plan to execute between 70 and 80 thousand... we plan to evacuate between 70 and 80 thousand people So first of all, I think the director of FEMA or the administrator is a woman I think so. This is a black guy, it's Lloyd Austin from 2021 and i remember this because somebody sent you this clip oh it was...it's all over! You got the TikTok girls going like whoa is this the truth wanting to come out? Oh yeah! Sanders exceeded all expectations Yeah that's Lloyd Austin It's Austin We planned to execute

35:46 Between 70 and 80,000. We plan to evacuate between 70 and 80 thousand people." So it's like oh okay please this is a very old clip And that it goes around and people are like they're gonna execute people! The other one that really got me... I think its fabulous Now this, people were getting mad at me about this because I have experience. And if you're going to get mad they should get mad at you? Yes! Oh they never get mad at you. They shouldn't, I'm old. You need to exalt the older men

36:23 Yes. So this is a clip of North Carolina and it only had titles over it, and it had this really ominous music I'll play it with a Blackhawk helicopter and it would say, oh look at them! It's unmarked they're coming over here they're rotor washing up And so I get emails from people, I learned a new term rotor washing. Look at what they're doing to us! They are rotor washing us and i'm like okay it looks to me just from a pilot perspective and I have a lot of hours that I've more hours on helicopter than fixed wing including a Chinook one hour but okay this was Chinook

37:06 And I said, the Black Hawk is very powerful. Around 53 feet is when you're going to start blowing stuff away on the ground It looks to me like they're coming in to figure out where they can land and then decide to take off and yeah your tents are gonna fly away and your boxes are gonna move around on the ground but if they were really rotor washing you which I have done! I've rotor washed a sailboat in Holland it was fun You know, the guys loved it. They were there on the lake and we came down... Did you do it on purpose? Yeah yeah but they wanted it because we were helping them. We're giving him speed and they thought it was hilarious so we were blowing their sails Oh I see okay And so I know you have to come down a lot especially with that 53 feet is about where it's at So now we get the story was North Carolina National Guard They actually thought they could land

37:57 And well, here's the story. The North Carolina National Guard is investigating an accident or an incident I should say of one of its helicopters at a Helene donation center A viewer shared this video of the chopper coming too close to a distribution site in Burnsville The National Guard says this happened as a pilot tried to land and deliver generators The National Guard says on approach the crew noticed that there were too many people tents and supplies close to the landing supply So the helicopter took back off They also admit they did not get clearance to land from local law enforcement. Safety is our number one paramount with our forces that we have on the ground and so we are again continuing to investigate that, We do have some communication with the landing sites and people that we are going to take commodities too It's matured over time Initially we had no communication So we were just making a call

38:47 and landing but now the landing sites have been more mature and we do have communication with emergency personnel that are on the ground. Major General Todd Hunt said he is very sorry for the incidents. He says the crew was grounded for now and they're working with the organization to identify how much damage the crew caused. So, so of course you know this was not I mean the implication this is because there's so little trust or maybe just massive distrust in our government at the moment that people jump to this conclusion that they're trying to purposely hurt them. I just don't think that was the case, but the programming was so strong when I even said hey you know what? Hey! I don't think this is their purposely rotor washing because if you really purposely want to rotor wash people would be flying around on the ground You know they're trying to do reconnaissance can we land here and then fly away

39:46 And but people are so spun up because for sure the reliance on the government has been so built up, we talked about in the last show so built up by people. Oh the government's gonna come and save me and what's happening in Western North Carolina it's horrible I mean we're not getting of course that all of that news is going to be pushed to the back burner We're only gonna be talking about Florida right now It's all minimal because oh God forbid we make anybody look good Because you can't...the government has not set up to be The knights in shining armor They are not set up to save you

40:23 They're not. They talk a big game, just like Kamala's gonna save you with I don't know building houses and they just talk the sooner we realize that that's not the way it is the better it is and we're just in this horrible 80 or 100 year cycle when you know um We had Sir Mark and Dame Astrid here Sunday night and Monday fantastic we had a great time And so Mark was telling us how he went to the Fukushima, you know just check stuff out. Did a little tour up there and they went to this hilltop and there were three monuments. And he says oh is this the monument for Fukushima? And the Japanese guy said Oh yeah! We do it for every time it happens This happens every 100 years So this is from 100 year ago This is from 200 years ago See...we don't hear all that

41:18 But that's just... Mother Earth wins every single time. So, you know to throw in climate change and all of this nonsense it's dishonest! And it is just programming weak-minded brothers and sisters into believing it and going along with the program and eating bugs And it makes everybody else crazy and mad because they're doing it to screw the elections. No, it's just life! Trumps fault Yeah well of course its all Trumps fault The same by the way goes for...and Trump is out there he's talking this thing up too which is bull crap This Kamala Harris 60 Minutes interview where they edited it they took out all the stupid stuff

42:05 Okay, yeah 60 minutes chopped down their interview to get it into I don't know 60 minutes and yes they chopped out all the fluff and the nonsense that she talks but they had put that whole... Let's stop right there. That's what you do. Yes, that's what you do with an interview! The whole thing is chopped. In fact I was remi- I used to have a guy I knew David Renson who used to write for Playboy we were talking one day about how um...I met him because they were gonna do uh...a piece of it involving me and

42:42 He's talked about the best interviews in the Playboy interviews are Extremely edited because that otherwise you're gonna bore people stiff if you look at something like interview magazine when that was around they would do Waldo, their interviews were straight up and it was a lot of well the way I um-um-um see um yes I get it's like taking and doing a transcription of Elon Musk. Who's gonna read this crap? So when I...of course you know everyone had the side by sides about 15 seconds longer than unedited bit we can certainly play it

43:19 But the point is, it was CBS themselves who put the whole... The full question and answer out. It was on Face the Nation as a promo reel for the interview! And because when I saw this like where did this come from? This tape? Was it leaked? Is there someone within CBS? Because that's the implication Oh we got the raw unedited footage! That's crazy They just put it out there There was part of a promo for the whole 60 minutes interview And by the way, the whole thing is chopped up. You think that was... You have to do that! That's what you do. This is an entertainment at some level. Yes. You don't bore people stiff with The Real Deal because no one's gonna follow it they're gonna go nuts. Yes she's a hopeless case she's dumb

44:10 Yeah, she is. She is a dumb person you can see it in her eyes I have actually have a background here because she went on this yeah heritage this France 24 again but they had a good little summary of her media blitz we asked ahead of time with just four weeks to go it's our last chance for voters to get to know her better Cracking open a can of lager on Stephen Colbert's talk show, Vice President Harris continued her week-long high profile media blitz. Over on Howard Sterns radio show whose listenership skews white and male she took a mix of more hardline questions on policy but also showed her personality. Listen I've been the first woman in almost every position i've had so I believe that

44:55 Men and women support women in leadership, and that's been my life experience And that's why I'm running for president. In a bid to reach every demographic, the string of appearances has included non-traditional outlets like the Call Her Daddy podcast, a Gen Z and millennial fan favorite with Spotify biggest female listenership Unfortunately Kamala Harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble How did that make you feel? I don't think she understands that there are a whole lot of women out here who one, are not aspiring to be humble. However critics have argued that Harris is still introducing herself this close to the election and accuse her being unable to align herself from Joe Biden's administration Would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?

45:46 There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been apart of most of the decisions that have had impact. Harris eventually clarified that unlike Biden she plans to put a Republican in her cabinet With seven battleground states up for grabs and polls continuing to show a tight race The interview burst is intended to hit a large portion of the media spectrum And dispel criticism about her infrequent engagement with mainstream media All right, so I've looked at all of it. I looked at the 60 Minutes. I looked at The View. I all have called her daddy boy that was that was bored me to tears It was I mean no it was terrible one blowjob question. It was so boring That's the thing that I mentioned in the newsletter and now I just want to reiterate it yes Alexandra Cooper Alex who split off from Sophia with an F Sophia Franklin

46:43 because they used to be partners and then they split off. Alexandra got a pot load of money because she played her cards right. And I've listened to her podcast now and again, trying to get some clips from it never been able to all she does is talk about blowjobs. She is preoccupied with blow jobs. Yes! So you go on and on about it with people that...I don't think a lot of people want to talk about it but she talks about it And so she doesn't talk about it with Kamala, but as I mentioned in the newsletter there's a very interesting irony here because I don't think Kamala's people knew anything about this podcast. They just knew it was big!

47:30 is second to Rogan at Spotify supposedly. And so it's a monster podcast, it has a big audience and that's all they knew this was like media buyers they don't know what they're doing and so they put her on there and the irony of her being on basically a blow job podcast did not elude a lot of people including me. Here's my conclusion besides her word salad and saying nothing which is yeah, okay If you gave me 10 women and put them in a lineup and said, okay you're casting for president. She would be last! There is nothing about her at all that has anything presidential she has dead eyes she has when she talks she frowns when she talks which is very off-putting uh...she has a bit of that vocal fry

48:28 A wine, a Berkeley wine. Yeah, a Berkeley one we choose our presidents like we choose our breakfast cereal and this is not what Americans go for I don't understand why the Republicans and conservatives in our country are so spun up about it she's not going to be elected now can they cheat? I even doubt that you can't cheat enough Yeah, too big to rig. She is really unappealing just she is she's unappealing which is the whole reason why she had 1% when she was running for president! She had to drop out it was so embarrassing because no one likes her she's unlikeable and I'm saying this from a television producer perspective you can say from any perspective you want

49:22 I think if you talk to a lot of women don't like her. The only people that like her have never seen or do anything, they're just voting Democrat. There's a huge number of people out there. Huge number! But those are the ones who aren't hurting in the pocketbook Well, some of them might be but they just vote Democrat. There are people that vote Democrat and there are people that vote Republican and there's a big range of people that actually take a look at it... Yeah And they decide late I do want to play just two clips from The 60 Minutes interview Just to put some content To this segment where we just slag women off based upon their appearance

50:05 That's what you did. I didn't do it! You're guilty by association Here she is and there's a lot of hey, hey Hey, if you don't mind me excuse me i'm talking yeah Let me finish that was not work no it's very it's not good at all this is about the border Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies in as much as you did. It's a long-standing... Edit, by the way! Edit! I can just—you can tell where all the edits are this thing was completely chopped up not just this one bit. ...immigration policies as much as you did it's a long standing problem and solutions are at hand and from day one literally we have been offering solutions what i was asking was wasn't a mistake to

50:59 And I think that's what we're trying to do. And so, how can you kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place? The policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem not promoting a problem okay but We have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. Should you have done that? We have cut the flow of fentanyl by half, but we need Congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem Okay so that's a very bad answer Very bad answer and everybody knows it. And then the other one is about her flip-flopping on all of her policies Let me tell you what your critics and the columnists say now the columnists or the colonist Pay attention to tell you what your critics and that's a whole lot nice. You mentioned what kind of what?

51:54 What? The columnists. The columnist, oh I tell you the columnists. Oh good lordy Let me tell you what your critics and the colonist say Okay They say that the reason so many voters don't know you is that you have changed your position on so many things You were against fracking now you're for it. You supported looser immigration policies Now you're tightening them up. You are for Medicare-for-all now you're not So many that people don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for. And I know you've heard that In the last four years, I have been Vice President of the United States and I have been traveling our country and I have been listening to folks

52:38 and seeking what is possible in terms of common ground. I believe in building consensus, we are a diverse people geographically regionally in terms of where we are and our backgrounds and what the American people do want is that we have leaders who can build consensus where we can figure out compromise and understand it's not a bad thing as long as you don't compromise your values to find common sense solutions. And that has been my approach." There was a whole article in Atlantic Magazine, because they're so mad about Kamala and Trump going on podcasts and like well it's not real if you just want a softball personality... Face it mainstream media! Face at M5M! Podcasts are taken over

53:36 Go sit behind the go ahead sit behind the paywall See how you do I have a good disinterrupting clip here about podcasts that was sent over by Steve and Where is this thing? There's actually kind of fits right into what you're saying. Oh I'm looking, I'm looking. I'm looking too. Oh NPR candidates appear on podcasts? Yes Vice President and candidate Kamala Harris have been stepping up media appearances lately she's been getting criticism that she's not spending enough time in the public eye. Harris has done traditional shows like 60 Minutes and also hitting the podcast circuit last week she turned up on the podcast All The Smoke

54:20 hosted by former NBA champ Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes. As someone who's been the first in a lot of spaces you've been in, a woman of color knocking on the door to possibly be the next president how do you protect your mental health and your mental space? Well number one rule... John how do YOU protect your mental space I'd really I'm very... My mental space?! Yes! How do you protect your mental space How do you protect your mental health and your mental space? Well, number one rule. Don't read the comments. They're nasty! If you have a specific slice of Sarah people that you want to reach there is a podcast for that that's for sure there's a lot of them but when you and I are doing interviews i mean we have journalistic principles that we follow so these podcasts follow any of that

55:04 Typically not. I mean, these are typically run by hosts who are influencers maybe they're former reality stars or former athletes They are not people who typically have journalistic training although you'll see they prepare for interviews sometimes they'll reference soundbites They'll try to make sure that this interview feels very authoritative. But at the end of the day, the same type of journalistic standards and scrutiny that you and I would pose on an interview don't exist here. And so the reason why I think you're going to have pressure to do both types of environments a formal sit down interview with a journalistic outlet like NPR or in the case of last night's 60 Minutes

55:41 It's because voters want to know more about your actual platform as opposed to if you're sitting down with a podcaster, they're just getting to know a little bit more about you personally. Oh it's pretty much the same thing in the Atlantic! The same thing oh there's no journalistic integrity they don't have producers and people looking for stuff and digging through and there's no critical questions What a crock Totally And I will say that By the way There's a lot of podcasts that have journalists involved with them. I would say this is one of them, but... I don't like to brag about that, but the whole New York Times podcast is just journalists yakking about stuff. Yes! But of course you know it's the really successful ones where the money is which we're not making with our integrity and our J-school diplomas like Joe Rogan... And I have to say uh I find it peculiar that neither candidate has been on Rogan

56:45 I know why Trump, at least I think I know why Trump hasn't been on is because at least a while ago it was you know hey you want to be on my show? You gotta come to my studio and Trump only does them in Mar-A-Lago. So I understand that there's...that's uh..I understand Joe like come to my studio. I think Kamala should go! In fact, it would be... I predict- She wouldn't go on that show in a million years. If she did she..I think those bookers that booked her on the Call Her Daddy Show are idiots! I think they're smart enough to not put her on Rogan. I have to say that i'd be stunned if she ever showed up on Rogan. I can predict though in the future election we won't make it to the next one because we only have four more years but in future- Four more years?! But the four more years could be perpetual

57:35 Oh, okay. Dream on! So in four more years I can see where an actual debate would take place in a podcast just two candidates sitting down arguing yelling getting into it that's what people... It is more likely than a lazy podcaster would let them go for it. Because you sit back, I mean if you do enough radio or any of these... Free content! Yeah, free content you back off and you just let them go for it. Yelling at each other because you know people are going to tune in And you don't need a moderator there's no moderator Just have them yell at each other I would day pack him in Yes! Just toss the question up all right let's... border crisis Go That's all he needs to do In fact uh I'm happy to facilitate that

58:30 So let me play two podcast clips from an NPR podcast. So this is kind of meta, where the NPR Politics podcast is talking about Kamala on the Call Her Daddy podcast. It's meta! And today on the show a look at Vice President Harris' media strategy. Harris is doing... Why do they not get good mics in the good studio for NPR podcasts? What does this sound like? I thought it was just bad sound that I'm getting all the time but you came through crummy This is them This is just how it sounds. It's bad. And today on the show, a look at Hillary has better mics. Thank you. Harris' media strategy. Harris is doing a whirlwind of three interviews today which was the impetus for our podcast and since she has become the Democratic nominee she's done a mix of mainstream broadcast television interviews with places like CNN and CBS 60 Minutes

59:27 And then she's also done untraditional interviews with podcasts to engage with folks who might not be traditional news consumers. See, they are so irked they are beside themselves because you know, Kama is not going to go on the NPR politics podcast which no one listens to but other podcasters. Aline I want to start the conversation with you what is the thinking behind the mix, the combination of interviews Harris has been doing. This is a very interesting strategy! This new kind of realm of podcasts going on social media you know that's kind of a clear hand out to younger voters Noooo! That has nothing do with younger voters

1:00:09 I'll bet you the average Rogan listener is older than you think. To kind of get them involved in the places that they consume information and, regardless where she's going these are places with audiences of millions of people. Hold on a second... I think they're equating podcast listeners with TikTok viewers because that is a younger demographic. I'm convinced of it, but... I don't see any difference there. I'm not even sure of that! The people i see addicted to TikTok are my age so I'm not so sure about that Well okay you got me there as possible I'm wrong No this this is just

1:00:47 What you're hearing in their voices... This is bigotry by the way. They're angry, they're angry because oh well they have the big audiences because they're just influencers cause there's just no good I mean your fight they're fighting a system that is that you always lose Because yes they have big audiences because they don't have a stick up their butt Like you do with a crappy sound, you know regardless of where she's going These are places with audiences of millions of people and she's going on these podcasts that you know Are kind of more geared towards younger folks. She just went on Sunday to Alex Cooper's

1:01:26 show called Call Her Daddy, which is a show mostly I mean entertainment podcast. It's one of the top shows in the country and it's about topics like sex and relationships. And Harris kind of had this long conversation about different issues affecting young women today and talked a lot about abortion. So let's talk a little bit more about a couple of these specific podcast interviews she has done. Let's talk specifically about the call her daddy episode. This idea of let's talk about, let's talk about. I've noticed this on a lot of these...this comes from Amy Goodman. Well tell us about it! Let's talk about it! We've never done that on the show. What say you? What say you? She's done. Let's talk specifically about the Call Her Daddy episode. You know I felt like

1:02:17 In a lot of ways it was like an infomercial for Harris. It was just an opportunity for her to talk about abortion Almost to me felt like the point of that interview Was to do the interview if that makes sense Like her being on the podcast just to say the words Kamala Harris is on call Her daddy like that in itself is something I've heard, you know folks around my age be like oh My god This is kind of crazy because of what I said earlier this show is not known for talking about politics I have another. You want to hear more of this, these two dingbats? I would...I want to mention that if you listen at the beginning of the call for...call for daddy. Call her daddy! Is it call me or call her? That's a new podcast we're going to start up. Call for Daddy. So uh... It's a faith-based podcast. Call For Daddy. Alex...ohhh

1:03:09 Alex goes, starts it off with an unbelievable like five minutes of apologia. I'm using that word instead of apology but apolo... that she's doing this at all. She goes on and on about, well you don't do politics... She sits there cross-legged like crisscross applesauce on her oversized couch okay alright daddyverse whatever she calls it Daddyverse I'm convinced that she was forced into this by Spotify Maybe! I think so because she was so apologetic

1:03:47 Didn't want to do it. It doesn't fit into the 40 blah, blah, blah She went on and on and on saying she's sorry for doing this as you know So I guess they let her get away with that excuse but the whole thing was off top it was off It was all it was all what he called when it's not off topic But is off sucks sucks. It sucks. It's not relevant. That's it's so not relevant Not relevant Alright, so that's enough of that. But let's stay with the same podcast because they spent a lot of time talking about the new deets on the case filed against Trump for January 6th. Oh no there is new evidence! It's hard evidence he is going down oh we've got something

1:04:30 Got him now! Yeah, absolutely. There were new things to learn even though reporters and the January 6th Committee on Capitol Hill and many others have been spending a lot of time and energy digging up details. The difference here is that the Justice Department in the FBI had subpoena power they could execute searches and people felt the need or compelled to talk why? And so we got some new details maybe the most significant to me

1:05:11 was on the day of the Capitol riot itself, on January 6th 2021. The prosecutors asserted that it was Donald Trump himself who was sitting in a dining room off the Oval Office watching Fox News and issuing some of the tweets himself that day in particular that tweet around 2 24 p.m where he said his vice president Mike Pence lacked the courage to do the right thing remember Trump and others had been leaning on Pence to kind put a pause on the certification of the electoral votes and Pence refused. And, you know there was violence at the Capitol that day within a minute of Trump's tweet Pence had been evacuated by the Secret Service and then an aide came rushing in to tell Trump that there was chaos and danger at the Capitol including toward Mike Pence and according to this new filing Trump replied so what? Oh no!

1:06:06 So this is new evidence. Throw the book at him! Oh, but wait there's more... So a lot of new detail here additional new detail The former president allegedly said to his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared that the details about the election really didn't matter and Election fraud really didn't matter you've just got it fight like hell And so that is new evidence about what Trump said and did on key days, as well as his state of mind and about his criminal intent. State of mind? These people... I mean, I'm throwing them out of podcast index. I'm censoring them. I'm throwing them out. That's a good one! Yeah, you could actually technically maybe...? No, technically I could do it right now but they deserve it

1:06:56 And so, and I know you have two clips on this which i think will probably expand on this general overview because not only do we have this damning evidence of Trump saying you've got to fight like hell and who cares? I mean oh my god that means we need to throw him in jail. No no but that nut job is back. Now a new book by veteran American journalist Bob Woodward reports further explosive details on the two men's interactions. First of all, spook and second of all, explosive details! The opus titled War cites an un... The Opus? What is an Opus?!

1:07:53 What does that even mean? The opus, titled War, cites an unnamed Trump aide who says the pair had spoken as many as seven times since Trump left office. The aide also recalls one instance early this year where they were ordered out of Trump's office in Mar-a-Lago so he could take a call with the Russian president. However, the book also quotes a Trump campaign official who cast doubt on the supposed contact. Former presidents often speak with foreign leaders but it is highly unusual to talk to a leader of one of the United States' adversaries without first clearing it with the State Department

1:08:32 The book also alleges Trump sent Putin COVID-19 testing equipment for his personal use in 2020 when many nations were facing shortages. In a statement, the Trump campaign said these were made up stories and called Woodward a demented and deranged man The Kremlin, meanwhile also denied the conversations between Trump and Putin. Woodward rose to fame after he and his colleague Carl Bernstein exposed the Watergate scandal bringing down Richard Nixon He's written more than 20 books on American politics and current affairs including 14 bestsellers What happened to America man?

1:09:09 We used to love people who would do stuff like that. You just say, remember Ronald Reagan? He was doing a speech and something like a gun sound went off and he went, oh you missed me! I mean these funny things... And oh, now I remember the you know it's an outrage and so horrible. It's hilarious We need my own in our politics we need more not to back back to this topic You just broached. I do have a three by three which covers it okay? Oh, I'm sorry here. We go. No it's time for three by three yes experiment by JTD comparing stories from ABC CBS and NBC

1:08:32 The book also alleges Trump sent Putin COVID-19 testing equipment for his personal use in 2020 when many nations were facing shortages. In a statement, the Trump campaign said these were made up stories and called Woodward a demented and deranged man The Kremlin, meanwhile also denied the conversations between Trump and Putin. Woodward rose to fame after he and his colleague Carl Bernstein exposed the Watergate scandal bringing down Richard Nixon He's written more than 20 books on American politics and current affairs including 14 bestsellers What happened to America man?

1:09:09 We used to love people who would do stuff like that. You just say, remember Ronald Reagan? He was doing a speech and something like a gun sound went off and he went, oh you missed me! I mean these funny things... And oh, now I remember the you know it's an outrage and so horrible. It's hilarious We need my own in our politics we need more not to back back to this topic You just broached. I do have a three by three which covers it okay? Oh, I'm sorry here. We go. No it's time for three by three yes experiment by JTD comparing stories from ABC CBS and NBC

1:09:50 A lot of people get real happy when they hear that music. Oh yes it's a 3x3, it's happy music! Yes we have now three by three of this topic this is interesting Now we heard yeah I thought was this again Steve sent us in so uh... I will say The first clip I want to play is ABC. Now you heard the part where, I guess Trump sent over some gear to Putin for testing? Yeah like one of those free testing kits he got four No no! He said it's gear, what do you think that was? Free testing kits?! It would have to be a PCR

1:10:29 Testing module it has to be some sort of you know equipment right? Well, you're gonna spin it up. Okay Yeah I guess that's I mean what else would it be they get In this clip, Kamala Harris is brought in to bitch and moan. And she makes it sound as if because I think she thinks this that what Trump did and you listen between the lines he didn't say no no wasn't some PCR gear it was a bunch of kits. You know those free kits that you get? Four per household! A hundred of them

1:11:07 Trump probably had amongst his 17 grandchildren, he probably had about a hundred so he'd send them to Vlad. DHL! But we have to, we're assuming it was a PCR gear. It wasn't a bunch of boxes of cheap tests that don't do anything but let's listen to this... As the COVID pandemic was raging and the government could not produce enough test for the American people then President Donald Trump secretly sent rare COVID test machines to Russia. To Vladimir Putin! For the dictator's personal use

1:11:43 That's according to Bob Woodward in a soon-to-be published book called War. Woodward writes that Putin told Trump to keep it a secret, saying quote I don't want you to tell anybody because people will get mad at you not me Kamala Harris seized on woodwards new reporting today talking about her in an interview with Howard Stern everybody was scrambling to get these kits the tests the COVID test kits. Couldn't get them anywhere. Howard Stern had a thousand of them, hypochondriac and this guy who is president of the United States is sending them to Russia? To a murderous dictator for his personal use? This person who wants to be president again, who secretly is helping out

1:12:29 an adversary when the American people are dying by the hundreds every day and in need of relief. Trump also had some choice words for Woodward, calling him a storyteller who quote lost his marbles. Woodward though is one of the most respected journalists at our times. And as you know David Trump has frequently praised Vladimir Putin and boasted about having a good relationship with the Russian dictator You know, we don't talk about this enough but I gotta blow taps for Howard Stern. What happened to Howard Stern the king of all media? The man who would... he was fighting the man, fighting the FCC, fighting the government what happened? What do they have on him? How did this happen that he became- They showed him a photo! Hey, what's that in your mouth, Howard?!

1:13:24 Now, it's sad. I used to love driving into New York from Jersey for years at the Lincoln Tunnel sitting there and saying oh at least Howard is on! When it was best of Stern we were still happy and now its just what has gone wrong? Well you're not the only one that's mystified by this No It's very, let's go with the second of the three by threes. And we go with that. Let's go to CBS during the early days of the pandemic in 2020 then president Donald Trump sent Russian President Vladimir Putin COVID-19 test machines according to the new book war by Bob Woodward Vice President Kamala Harris responded today during an interview with Howard Stern everybody was scrambling to get these kits The tests

1:14:18 The COVID test kits. Couldn't get them, couldn't get them anywhere right? And this guy who is president of the United States is sending them to Russia, to a murderous dictator for his personal use? Even after he left office Trump stayed in touch with the Russian leader. According to Woodward He cites an unidentified Trump aide who said the former president had as many as seven private calls with Putin even one early this year when Trump was urging Republicans to block additional aide to Ukraine and its fight against Russia The newly revealed contacts raise additional questions about Trump's relationship with Putin In the recent presidential debate, Trump twice refused to say who he wanted to prevail in the war with Ukraine. Do you want Ukraine to win this war? I want the war to stop The vice president told 60 Minutes Trump would have allowed Putin to conquer Ukraine Donald Trump if he were President Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now He talks about oh he can end it on day one You know what that is It's about surrender

1:15:18 Woodward, who rose to fame investigating Watergate writes in the book Trump was far worse than Richard Nixon. A Trump spokesman responded saying Woodward's reporting is not true and that Trump gave Woodward absolutely no access. Hit job! Now a couple of things about this and the other one is that Neither report mentions the fact that they talk about machines, COVID. Well they said it here in this report No they said it was machines but they never make the point that she's talking about test kits It's clear that these machines are not test kits, yet they play her talking about test kits with no clarification whatsoever. I have some clips later in the show if we get to them about some of the science reporting on NPR doing the same kind of thing leaving out details that are necessary for understanding leaving out details that are necessary for understanding

1:16:16 is what these networks are doing and they're doing a disservice to the American public with this sort of reporting. It's just beyond me! What? I know gambling is going on... So, I'm looking for an excerpt In War, Woodward writes that while the former president was in office Trump secretly sent Putin a bunch of Abbott point-of-care COVID test machines for his personal use. So that is what was written in the book so Harris is completely nuts when she's talking about the test kits

1:16:57 And have you noticed that Howard's voice is lighter? Like he talks a little more in the front of his mouth, he doesn't have that throaty... I didn't know this, but you would. Yeah All right let's play the last of the three which will be NBC Tonight in her ongoing media blitz Vice President Harris telling ABC she wouldn't change anything President Biden did Would you have done something differently than president Biden during the past four years? There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of and I've been... I think she lost the election on this I think this was that this was the loser

1:17:34 When you say this, nothing comes to mind. Yeah and there's plenty that she... There was a softball that Sunny Hawkins had to literally read from a sheet! This was the, I think this is the election losing answer right here. There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of and I've been apart of most of the decisions that have had impact Later saying she would name a Republican to her cabinet Former President Trump slamming the response, calling it quote her dumbest answer so far and Biden the worst president in history. Meanwhile Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward writes in a new book that former President Trump secretly sent Russian President Putin COVID tests for his personal use in 2020

1:18:21 the NBC News has not confirmed Woodward's reporting. The Trump campaign responding in part, quote none of these made-up stories by Bob Woodward are true Harris slamming Trump today Everybody was scrambling to get these kits the tests this guy who is president of the United States is sending them to Russia? To a murderous dictator for his personal use? Oh brother

1:19:00 NBC did the worst job of it because they didn't even indicate that it was a machine. No, which you easily noted It took you all of two seconds to read from the from BBC document on the book Oh gee there's like these guys even made it sound as though it was test kits NBC dead so they could that would normalize what it would make it more sense It would normalize what Harris said by soft peddling what it really was. NBC has gone off the deep end, I blame Comcast, I blame this Brian L Roberts guy that's the CEO... Somebody should call him out! Okay well might as well be you because no one else is listening

1:19:46 Call him out. This is another problem we can't do more than four more years, it's not going to be any media left to deconstruct will just be talking about podcasts. That's the way it's headed? Yeah! All right before we take a break there was one interesting piece of news about Tina Peters, I think Tina Peters Day is her name She was the, she was overseeing the election in Mesa Arizona and she took issue with the voting machines. Now when you hear this story what she really got convicted for is for allowing an unauthorized person to take a look at the machines

1:20:31 And there was a whole bunch of other stuff. There were screenshots where everybody could see, you know the password was onepassword123 and stuff like that which is important information for people. But they threw the book at her! Elections have consequences And so does breaking the law in search of election rigging. Tina Peters sentenced today to nine years in her election tampering case, Colorado's best known election denier The former Mesa County clerk was defiant till the end arguing with the judge at sentencing and bringing in a parade of fellow election conspiracy theorists to defender

1:21:06 Our Mark Salinger was in court in Grand Junction where Peters laughed at prosecutors, lectured the judge then was led away in handcuffs. Tina Peters is a hero to the people who believe her lies but inside this courthouse those same lies made her a felon You are a charlatan And you cannot help but lie as easy it is for you to breathe. A reckoning happened today in Judge Matthew Barrett's courtroom, for nearly 30 minutes speaking directly to Peters he made it clear that words have consequences and lies lead to prison sentences Prison is for those folks where we send people who are a danger to all of us whether by be by the pen or the sword with word at mouth

1:21:50 Prison is where folks go, where punishment is what we're focused on. because the crime committed is so significant that anything less would unduly mitigate the seriousness of the same. Peters granted conspiracy theorists illegal access to voting systems in her county as she searched for proof of voter fraud even to this day after finding no proof a fraud she maintains the election was stolen from Donald Trump and told the court did nothing wrong So okay, you threw the book at her because... After the election by the way After all the election was said and done, she lets in computer experts now known as conspiracy theorists to take a look at these machines. And then in the courtroom the judge is making it sound like oh if you're a danger if you say things that aren't true he was really making a big deal out of all you lie you lie so we're throwing you in jail for nine years this this is something that actually kind

1:22:55 Worries me. Yes, this is worrisome. It's very worrisome She was sincere Yeah! And it wasn't that she would... and there's what did she lie about? What? Well, because there was supposedly no proof or whatever. Therefore she lied therefore throw her in jail but the real charge is that she allowed unauthorized access to these voting machines Yeah after the fact I know I know These are... No something's up with Arizona Yes stay away This wasn't really about her this was about anyone else who thinks they're gonna

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1:27:58 Well, it's a big club and you're in it if I get to my science clips There is a cut there's a couple of things in there where I'm gonna ask you request. Oh good some clarification from people that are experts Good we'll do it right after right after we're done thanking our Our value for value supporters It's time talent and treasure and we start with the artwork that we chose for episode 1701 We titled that dork maga I was on one hand shocked, on the other hand kind of mortified that I heard Kara Swisher calling Elon Musk dork maga. Did we did she hear that from us or did we somehow just catch onto some kind... I think were in the same way oh no we are on the same wavelength as Kara That's not good

1:28:49 That's kind of disappointing. But when he said, when he said dark Maga the first thing I thought it was Darth Magnet because that was funnier Mega and then Dork you say? I think you said Dork. Yeah, Dork. I said dork Maga. He said dork Maga. I wrote it down immediately and so you and Kara are on the same wavelength This is bad. This is bad. And that's why you listen to her so much. You must repent! You actually have a crush on her Oh yeah, that's it uh-huh yeah right on This was art which had a DNA strand. It was okay, we were happy with it We felt the choices weren't all that great. It was a fallback piece let's be honest Tan Stoffel who I don't know if this is someone's nickname or

1:29:37 I don't know who... that's not Tante Neal, it's Tom Stoffel. No, it's somebody new. It's not that they've been around. Well no, first art was submitted for episode 1661 Oh you're right! You're right, hmmm But he has done good work He or she, yes A lot of good evergreen pieces And it must be a she because if you look at the logo of Tan Stavro, it's a girl's picture. Well then she was for four months... She must be a...

1:30:13 A Dutch master. I would think so, it sounds like it. We've uncovered a new Dutch master now we didn't make it easy for everybody because we said hey you can't do any Star Trek stuff and I think a lot of people had Star Trek stuff in mind because it was episode 1701 Starship 1701 USS Starship Enterprise and I think they got bummed out and uh couple still did it of course And I think no one had ideas You kind of liked the dog tv from Dame Kenny Ben I did like it, but it was simplistic looking because if the dogs were more dimensional. I think would have been better and you wouldn't like that you hated it. OK? Yeah there you go. I hated this so yeah we didn't really have such a great selection. Notice little ham radio by the way. I just like to mention so many people on about you or they probably not emailing you cause they can't spell your last name.

1:31:10 But they've been emailing me. Hey! Well, what radio should I get? A ham radio. I got a couple of those but not too many and i would just like to suggest that everybody we've been doing this for over a decade I think... But wait your best line is wait get a license to put on the radio Yeah thats about what im about to say Get a license not just because you need to be licensed and actually in emergency anybody can use these things You know the license deal is not a big deal You go to ARRL.org, you find out where they're testing they do it once a month just to reiterate all the questions for the test are published with the answers they won't ask you all the questions but all the questions they asked you will have the exact same answer as multiple choice just in a different order so you can memorize

1:32:01 But you need, you actually need to do this to figure out how the stuff works. Because repeater offsets and little things just little tips and tricks you need to know in order to function properly certainly on these two meter or 70 centimeter ham bands You need to hook up with some people So don't just think I can get a radio and then breaker breaker good buddy is this thing on? It takes you it's not IQ CQC qcq way the Italian guys or the Spanish security access The hams are all laughing now, trust me. They don't know what I'm talking about. That sounds like a Mexican radio. Just do that! You will not regret it and it's easy and it'll cost you a total of 60 bucks to get a radio... That's max by the way. That's with the radio. You know, sixty bucks with the radio. Sixty bucks is high if you looked at the prices recently? Well they got some really spiffy, uh, the bow-fang things there, y'know, their upgrade... You get two bow fangs for sixty bucks Yeah but you want them... Okay

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1:44:05 Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. All right, you had something you wanted to play. Yeah I want to do these clips this is a an example of these are uh a total of six clips oh and it's they're different though they're not just like one topic called dot divi dev this is about the kind of dingbats that you have we're doing reporting nowadays and this is specific to npr Oh well like we haven't been paying attention to them today We've been giving him a lot of air time It's a yes it's like NPR

1:44:56 kind of a focus today. Let's focus on crappy reporting, let's start with this one. This is the first, this Dingbat report NPR end up... This is about the Honda. Honda has had a big recall and then we get to listen to I don't know, this girl sounds like she's in 11th grade maybe telling us all about the problem with the steering mechanism on a Honda car. Honda is recalling more than 1.7 million vehicles because of a defect in the steering mechanism federal regulators say the issue could increase the risk for crash and Paris Kamila Dominovsky has details. The recall includes the Acura Integra, Honda CR-V and the Civic family all from model year 2022 or newer. Honda thinks about 1% of recalled cars actually have the faulty part it's a badly manufactured worm wheel. The part where the rotation from turning the steering wheel turns into turning a gear to turn the wheels

1:45:56 Turns out these defective worm wheels can swell. There's also a spring that's wound too tight Add it up and you might get an abnormal noise and a sticky feeling when you turn the steering wheel Wow, how Condescending is that? So why do we even have a reporter reporting on something that you just read their newsreader could have read that But they do this a lot. I was looking at, in fact, I went and looked it up on the NPR personnel. They have hundreds and hundreds of people working there that just for this purpose alone... That brings me to the second group eclipse. This is the Sandia, it's about Sandia Labs which she pronounces Sand-ee-uhh. I don't know why but it has always been... What is Sandia? Sand-ee-uhh Labs. Sandia Labs is down in Albuquerque area and it's a... I should've get him

1:46:44 She might maybe send Diaz the way it's pronounced now, but This is one of those examples, we've talked about it before in the show where you have a situation where you use the term spokesperson instead of representative because you want to make it clear that your using non-language a certain way. I believe NPR brings on presenters that are DEI hires... For their score, their ESG score. and for bragging rights, and they do it.

1:47:21 You could bring in somebody who can do presentation well and they'd be a DEI hire, but if you're listening on the radio you wouldn't notice it. So that's no good. Let's bring on a woman that's got so much... She's just a lousy presenter. She screeches when she talks. I don't know if she's black or Mexican or I can't tell but she's got a ghetto sound to her that tells the listener hey, I'm a DEI hire Get over it and here we go. Do you worry that an asteroid will slam into Earth in all life on this planet?

1:47:59 Perhaps scenes from movies like Armageddon keep you up at night. We may have something to make your sleep a little better. Scientists may have discovered a way to knock an incoming asteroid off course, and for anyone who ever wondered why don't we just throw a bunch of nuclear missiles at it? Well, you're kind of right! So it's a little bit different concept but we think it may even be more effective. Hey guys, I think we've had some issues with the younger audience listening to NPR. We need to hip it up a little bit. I want some sound effects... I want young voices, multicultural voices and let's just be a little looser with the scripts. Yeah that'll do it! That would be the meeting now. The problem is reporting here

1:49:06 Which brings me to the last couple of clips coming up. Didn't we already do this by the way? Didn't we already throw, like crash something into an asteroid? Well yeah but that was to land it and just steal something from it I meant... This is different And the thing is that They're gonna tell us something that it makes no sense and it's never explained. And this is what the galling part is besides her voice, here we go. The Sandia National Laboratories in Albuquerque New Mexico they have discovered you just need to set off a nuclear explosion near an asteroid and the burst of x-rays will send it safely off target

1:49:48 The idea has been around for decades, but the only way to test it is with a nuclear weapon. And those are difficult to come by so we invented a laboratory experiment where we could test this idea to generate an incredibly strong burst of x-rays in the laboratory His team used magnetic fields to produce these X rays and recorded their effects on two mock asteroids roughly the size of Tic Tacs Not only does it work, but it works better than we thought. Any size asteroid! But Nathan Moore cautions that all asteroids are not alike. Asteroids come in many different flavors they're made of many different types of rocks We've only done a test on one type of mineral so it will be important to test this idea on different minerals and our laboratory experiments

1:50:38 to develop a full understanding of how we would deal with every type of asteroid. But it's good to know, we humans have options that those dinosaurs didn't when it comes to asteroids or when they come to us It certainly reassuring to know that if we are surprised by either a large asteroid Shows up with very little warning if it needs a hard shove we have a way to deal with it. Bruce Willis Thank you for your service Oh my goodness I'm surprised she didn't say Axaroid the worst part about this report is not even her It's how do x-rays which have no matter?

1:51:22 Push anything. I would, I'm sure that maybe they do but i don't know how it does. When I have an x-ray I am not thrown back against the table! It's like... So there's no explanation for how this x-ray trick works. Also, it's rude! Bruce Willis is a vegetable... It's rude! And then the Bruce Willis reference is like... With Bon Jovi music? That's rude I agree This is peak NPR right here It's over That's it. Enjoy it. It exemplifies the crap that they produce and it is also not explanatory, it used to be educational you should learn something you learned nothing so here we go to this second group now this is all the same this is about more science-led pipes and I want a... This is about

1:52:17 This has got so much lack of information. There's no real reporting, it just says let's get rid of lead pipes. They never explain as we go along I'll try to throw in what might be going on because I have... Wait wait didn't you used to be a lead pipe inspector? No and so i would say that there is lead pipe There's just information in here that is not explained. Let's go! There are some 9 million homes across the U.S getting water through lead pipes And now the Environmental Protection Agency says those pipes need to come out The science has been clear for decades there is no safe level of lead and our drinking water That's EPA Administrator Michael Regan he says lead is harmful especially to children NPR's Ping Wong has been following this story and she joins us now, hi Ping

1:53:14 Hi, Pim. Okay so I gotta admit that I was kind of surprised this wasn't already a rule what is the EPCA saying about it? Yeah you would think right i mean its definitely something that water advocates have been fighting for many years now And the main thing about this rule is that for the first time on the federal level, it requires most water systems to replace all their lead pipes within 10 years. Now Layla this is a problem with a long history but it got a lot of attention ten years ago with the Flint Water Crisis in Michigan and there was a change in the water chemistry that caused old pipes to leach high amounts of lead into the drinking water and since then some cities and states have actually already been swapping out those lead pipes for copper

1:53:56 Okay, I didn't understand what she said at the end. What did she say at the end? I don't know what she said and they're just filling air time So play the little end part again and tell me what she said word by word. Crisis in Michigan, and there was a change in the water chemistry... There was a change in the water chemistry? Wait wait wait I'm listening! ...to leach high amounts of lead into drinking water... And since then some cities have actually already been swapping out those lead pipes for copper Okay that last bit I could not decode let me listen again

1:54:33 And some cities and states have actually already been swapping out those lead pipes for copper. Well, some states even allowed the selected Lappenhopper. I'm telling you! I could...I listened to this 10 times and couldn't figure out what she said. The leechin' lappenslappenhopper? Let me... The loppa-gappa-gappa-dup. The leech is slapping up...swapping out the swapping out the lead for copper how about that? Since then some cities and states have actually already been swapping out those lead pipes for copper They've been slopping out the headpipes for Hopper. She said, Hopper! How can we... We don't get gigs like this? This is a great gig I wanted to slopping hopper Okay so let's right away we're introduced to the it turns out that besides that last bit which is I had to stop it there because it's like what did she I still don't know what she said

1:55:25 Slopper hopper. Sloppin' hopper! So we got, everybody's got lead pipes. Show title, show title, sloppin' hopper! Sloppin' hopper... so uh everyone's got these lead pipes are everywhere but in Flint Michigan it caused a problem and everyone got poisoned and they made a big fuss about it Because of the water chemistry. What water chemistry? What water chemistry, what changed in Flint that all of a sudden everyone got lead poisoning when there's lead pipes it turns out the whole country is filled with them! A slopping hopper So...what do we...this didn't tell me anything All I know is if there's lead pipes everywhere and they've been here forever And also know that elemental lead Elemental lead is not toxic

1:56:15 You can lick lead, it's not going to do anything. It's the lead salts that are toxic. Ah! Now you're getting all chemistry on me now... But they never talk about any of that let's go with clip 2 where they still tell us nothing Right it was clear even back then that it wasn't just a problem in Flint Are there parts of the country that are more likely to rely on lead pipes? Yeah, places with homes that were built before 1986. That's the year that Congress banned lead pipes but the ones that were already in the ground we're allowed to stay there until now so there are lead pipes in every state but some have more than others those include Illinois Florida Pennsylvania Ohio New York and New Jersey all of those states have over half a million lead pipes Wow! So... that's a lot of pipes they're gonna have to replace all those in 10 years?

1:57:04 Yeah, it is a lot of pipes and for the most part they will have to but there are some interesting exceptions. So Chicago for instance has the most lead pipes out of any city around 400,000 in Chicago alone because they actually required that pipes there until they were banned so when this rule was first proposed Chicago got a pretty big exemption something like 40-50 years to replace all their pipes because they just had too many of them and And a lot of advocates pushed back on that. They said it's way too long, that's generations more people growing up with lead pipes so in the final rule the EPA has tightened that up now instead of 40 years they have more like 20 to 25. Okay so a couple things I learned here one no wonder

1:57:47 Chicago is retarded because they're all drinking lead. And the other thing I got from net Ned, he says Detroit water was used until Detroit kicked them off for not paying their bill and Flint switched to a mothballed water treatment plant from the Flint River that was really polluted just as an aside. And we do better than NPR well. The other thing The question that comes to mind when I heard that clip was, why did Chicago demand the lead pipes in the first place? So that the Democrats could keep winning elections. Well, that's an interesting theory but it's like... Why don't they tell us anything? This is a fact-free

1:58:32 science report. They're telling us nothing! And for example, what is going on that causes the lead and even with the Flint Michigan thing I still don't know what the chemistry is now? Now I have some ideas it's possible that for example you can get lead chloride if you chlorinate the water and run through lead pipes you might get some some some lead chloride through to the drinking water...I mean that's one possibility If you look at any research at all and they don't talk about this If you have hard water, it coats the inside of the lead pipe so the likelihood of toxicity is zero because there's a coat. Anyone who has hard water knows what the problem is that just calcium and magnesium just coat everything and so it makes the pipe smaller but it protects it. That's not discussed. And then this sleeving thing which is what most people do in some of these areas where you run plastic sleeves through the copper pipe

1:59:28 And then you just run the water through that and that solves the problem immediately. And then there's also solder joints they don't talk about which leeches through even when copper pipes... How come I didn't call YOU for this science report? They could have called anybody! Shut up already!! Yeah, science. Be quiet! So they continue with the non-factual reporting with the next clip. In touch with Brenda Santoyo and she's a water justice advocate in Chicago Water Justice Advocate? Nooo... Hey that should be our next promotion

2:00:04 We can give out water justice advocate diplomas. Okay, yeah! I have a WJA in Detroit It's definitely progress. I think that like the city and the state should take their own measures to try to speed up that process as much as they can we also don't want our water systems to be set up for failure for them to take shortcuts Yeah, she says that the timeline seems reasonable so long as families are able to protect themselves in the meantime. Yeah I mean even 10 more years seems like a long time to be drinking water that might have lead in it So what can families do to protect themselves? Yeah well step one is figuring out whether they have a lead service line The service line is the pipe that brings tap water into your house and that would be the most likely culprit

2:00:51 If you can see that line, you can scratch it with a coin. Try a magnet on it. There's some guidance online that can help you figure out if its made of lead copper or coated steel and in case your wondering is it easy to scratch and the magnet does not stick to it those are some of the signs that could be lead They can also test their water for lead. There are some water districts out there that offer free water testing so they can check for that and here's the thing, even if there is lead in the water common home filters can take them out. So pitcher filters faucet filters that are certified to remove lead all these are really great solutions until the lead pipes themselves get eliminated I am very close to banning NPR science reports on this show. Very very very close to it This is bad

2:01:35 You have to remember that NPR, our national treasure and all these public radio stations began as educational stations where you should learn something. You learn nothing from these people! There's no explanation for anything it's just blah blah blah blah blah lead is bad Yeah. That, we could have summed up that whole report with what you just said there. Blah blah blah, lead is bad. Blah blah blah, doot dee doom, doot dee doom, doot dee blah blah blah. Alright! Thank you for the science moment. You're welcome I would like to move

2:02:20 Israel and Iran, and what's happening. I have a couple of clips and I have some analysis that i would like to share with the group we start first with Biden and Netanyahu finally speaking President Biden today spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu the White House called their conversation direct productive. However, one of the big questions that remains is how will Israel respond to the Iranian missile attack and when? Israel's defense minister warns it will be precise and deadly. I'm a news reporter Josh Einicker live in Tel Aviv tonight with the story well as precise and deadly he said but he added and above all surprising they meaning the Iranians he added will not understand what happened and how

2:03:09 But as you point out, the big question is when. And if the Israelis have decided that, they aren't saying tonight. One year after President Biden came to Israel and wrapped Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a bear hug, the two leaders have seen their relationship sour amid Netanyahu's prosecution of the war in Gaza and now Lebanon. But eight days after nearly 200 Iranian missiles filled the Israeli skies, Netanyahu and Biden today spoke on the phone to discuss Israel's plans to retaliate. The U.S. and the Israeli government have been discussing, have had discussion since last week

2:03:47 after, certainly since after the Iran attack. And so that those discussions continued with the president and the prime minister." The White House has been trying to convince Netanyahu to choose conventional military targets and not Iran's oil industry or nuclear programs And it all comes at the holiest time of the year in this holy land. Will they try to do something before the end of the week? Because, at the end of the week is the holiest day on the Jewish calendar Yom Kippur The Day Of Atonement and at this time there is so much uncertainty about what's to come Now I ask you In the world of cyclical happenings wouldn't a second Yom Kippur war be perfect

2:04:29 Oh, just in the cyclical nature of things. I'll come back to that. Interesting idea! Just a thought... Now we go to NPR and let's get an update from them. There is a lot of speculation over whether Israel will respond and what would be its targets? Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Ereggi in this video by AP News warned Israel not to test his country's resolve by launching saying Iran's response would be more powerful than last week's ballistic missile attack. That was in response to Israel's killing of top Hezbollah and Hamas leaders. Eruji said Tehran stands fully behind its so-called axis of resistance, which includes Hezbollah and Hamas, and that he would soon be traveling to Saudi Arabia and other regional countries to discuss Israel's offensives in Gaza and Lebanon

2:05:22 There's intense debate here in Israel about the scale and target of a potential attack on Iran. Many experts believe it could be against its energy sector." Okay, so bear that in mind and he is also going to be roaming around talking to people Now we go to our retired generals And the first one coming right out of retirement known for his seven count The famous Wes Clark VII is in fact General Wesley Clark and he's going to lay it all out for us. Do you believe Bibi Netanyahu will pull the trigger on Iran? I certainly do, and i believe he should All the tragedy in Hamas, all that's going on with Hezbollah is traceable to the source and that's Iran. And so this is the moment and this is a situation in which Israel has to strike and strike hard at Iran. Hey it's number seven on the list we got just the final one! We've gotta complete my West Clark 7! What do you make of the move by Emmanuel Macron to withhold weapons?

2:06:22 I think he's responding probably to domestic pressure in France, but it is certainly a misguided effort. If he wants to make a difference, he should endeavor to have religious leaders in France call together Khamenei bring Khamenei to Jerusalem and have the Pope there tell Khamenei to renounce his claims of his efforts to destroy Israel and kill all its people. I love this! First of all, I like that he says Khamenei Instead of Khomeini he says Kamenei. So his idea is get the Pope, bring the Pope over have Kamenei and the Pope we got to do a photo op Kamenee and then we'll all shake hands like a big Camp David though in Israel and Kamenei and the Pope and what it'll be good! If you go to this source

2:07:12 That's the way you deal with this. And Iran is the source and Khamenei is the key person One more question for you there have been some who say that if Israel were to strike particularly Iran's oil That this would spark World War three give us your perspective Considering all of the years you have as an experienced commander in ruining other countries than NATO Well, I don't think a strike on their oil is going to spark World War III. I don't think World War III's in the offing right now but I do say this Iran is on the verge of having nuclear weapons maybe it has them now

2:07:51 When it has those, everything's different. This regime in Iran...it has to go! Now it can change its tune if it says okay and live with its neighbors fine If it continues to insist that this whole effort is directed at the destruction of a neighboring state In the 21st century, that's not permitted. So this is a moment for Israel to assert itself to strike back and gain dominance in the region over Iran." So that sounds like regime change is what he's saying here We just have to change those guys Everything else is fine It's not going to start World War III Now proving once again we have the best producers in the universe

2:08:37 One of our producers was at an investor dinner and this must have been pretty high-end because they brought in as a dinner speaker General Milley. And our producer gave me a mic big Mike General my the other big money other Big Mike It gave me little rundown of what he said took notes, and I think it's it's worth sharing history is cyclical He said the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648 ended the 30 Years War and set the west up for 100 years of peace between large powers. Oh

2:09:15 broken by the Seven Years' War, the French and Indian war around 1750. Then the constant state of war until Congress of Vienna established the Concert of Europe in 1815." Then there was peace amongst large powers for a hundred years until World War I. From 1914 to 1945 with World War II, we are now 80 years into the current peace established by rules-based order imposed after World War II. The next 20 years will be very interesting." China, Russia and Iran have every incentive to overthrow the rules-based order that's governed the world since the Americans came up with it in a New Hampshire hotel in 1944. He says that was Bretton Woods. China building their military with an eye on seizing Taiwan. Xi says he wants to take it by 2027 which would be the 100 year anniversary of The People's Liberation Army

2:10:16 He says, maybe but China lacks experience and may underestimate the difficulty of it. Important that they continue to wonder if the US would intervene." Ah! That's so... we need to keep rattling the sabers Gaza Israel is responding to this horrific attack Imagine what we do? They've been fairly successful with their strategic goal of destroying Hamas about two-thirds of the way there They haven't gotten all of their leadership yet But it's coming soon Their challenge going forward is that they lack a political message. All war is politics administered through organized violence."

2:10:54 That's a good statement. I like that one! All wars politics administered through organized violence need an alternative path to sell it to the Palestinians, continued collateral damage civilian deaths makes it harder It may require Arab peace enforcement troops maybe from Egypt Jordan and Saudi Arabia Notice we have Netanyahu going on a little tour Iran Israel will hit Iran, but they'll probably wait until after the High Holy Days conclude next week. Probably a mix of military economic and symbolic targets." He said maybe I'm wrong they might go downtown either way going downtown either way it will be a strong message of don't do that again but stopping short of delivering a devastating hit neither Israel nor Iran won a full direct war but sometimes wars happen even when they aren't wanted would the US get involved?

2:11:50 Well, the country is a third bigger than Iraq with bigger military. We could deal with it but at a significant cost so unlikely nuclear Now, they are only days or weeks away from having enough uranium goo. However, Milley says it will still take quite a period of time to package that into a missile." So there's something different from Wesley Clark. It's always a couple of weeks away. Well that's just for the goo but it'll take much longer to package it into a missile. Yeah they keep changing their target. Going with our thesis that this whole thing is a sham. Mm-hmm I'm and the fact that they've been talking about the nuke The nuke being a week away, a week away, a couple weeks away, for years next month... For decades Is it possible that at some point years ago They figured out they can't do this Maybe none of it works

2:12:52 And maybe none of it works, and so they're gonna say well let's change our policies but we have to do this slowly. So let's get rid of these terrorist groups somehow or we have to go in cahoots with other people to do this because we can't do it because they make us look bad and we want to stay in power. It's a whole thing is a sham! the communists no evidence of the contrary then even if Israel sends a couple of missiles over there gonna hit anything No, and the 200 missiles that were sent toward Israel. They didn't hit anything they killed

2:13:28 killed some one of them but that poor guy got hit by a fragment I sent you that video after the show. Oh, that's the most disgusting thing it means. It's like a cartoon! I wonder whether its real. It's like a cartoon! That's what I wonder about it. How does that even happen? Anyway... He goes on to about the future of warfare, which I think is a final interesting point. The nature of war doesn't change through history but character of war does tactics and technology example gun range increased from 70 yards to 400 yards between American Revolution in the Civil War generals were slowed to adapt to it and it was a bloodbath In World War two the Germans British and French had

2:14:09 had the same new tank tech, radio comms and air support but the Germans came up with the best system. The Panzer divisions and steamrolled Europe in 18 months including a larger French army looking ahead one third of US military will be robots In 15 years, drone tanks, sailorless ships more UAVs etc. China and Russia will try to do the same armed robots powered by here it comes AI and quantum computing will have... He said quantum computing? Yes he did! He doesn't know what it is. Will have terrifying capabilities That's where he goes off the rails. Yeah, so we don't need to invite General Milley for our after-dinner conversation. He does have a historic... He likes it to do his historic stuff. But doing historic stuff and analyzing it is hindsight. Doing foresight? He's got nothing! He can't look into the future at all. Robots and AI in quantum computing. Now, John I tell you if you really want to know what is happening

2:15:14 In the future of warfare, we must look to the NATO. And the NATO, as you know is now run by our former Prime Minister from The Netherlands Mark Rutte. It's crucial for Ukraine to prevail and we have to afford that Putin gets his way with and in Ukraine because it's not only a problem for Ukraine there is also a threat to all of us here in the UK Everybody! Everybody is threatened I bought your accent. Yes, because i'd listen to this...I think you've got it's fabulous! I wish I could do it but there are a couple of things you might want to do okay one they go uh-uh a lot more than you do yes okay and the other thing is he changes his ruta he changes his cadence he talks at a certain speed then he speeds up

2:16:13 and then he slows down. That little element you have yet to capture. Oh, okay I will just coaching you here. I'll work on that and do it very good in the future. Of us here in the UK all over NATO including Canada and US if Russia would be successful in Ukraine it would be a security threat for all of us so we have to massively... Massively learn how to speak Russian! Continue what we are doing first and that is to put military aid Into Ukraine? Yes, some aid. To make sure that we have enough training ready for the soldiers... ...the brave soldiers from Ukraine and the... We must have some training ready for the sold- The brave soldiers! Brave, very brave soldiers. The brave people who are working there to... Brave people. The dead people you mean. Counter the Russian onslaught At the same time we have to implement what we agreed in Washington during the summit

2:17:07 And particularly this is the command we are now setting up in Germany. Oh, command! Oh, Germany is going to take all the hits? Great! Basically coordinate all of the activities over NATO allies and others... Let Putin go get mad at the Germans! ...to make sure that this aid gets into Ukraine and of course the so-called 40 billion euro plan. So called?! That's not so called it's real and we stole from the Russians where we decided collectively to make sure that the money is available long term and this is of course at least for the first year but then also longer term we have to find that money. And, you have to work on the bilateral security agreements as they are now being negotiated between Ukraine and various allies

2:17:53 He's negotiating between Ukraine and various allies. There is no letting up, we're going to continue to... How about the long-range weapons? But would you support Ukraine being given access to longer range missiles to be able to fire those deeper into Russia? Militarily, we've heard from former senior commanders in Europe saying that Ukraine's allies need to be firmer that dither and delay as one of them put it is not in Ukraine's interest. So would you personally support the use by Ukraine of longer-range missiles to fire deeper into Russia? Well, let me say this about that Let me be very specific First of all, Ukraine is allowed legally to strike targets in Russia when... Who makes up these laws?!

2:18:45 illegally? Yes, is there some edict or was there some law passed? Is there some kind of war law against Geneva. First of all Ukraine is allowed legally to strike targets. Legally?! What are you talking about! I Mark Rutte have said it is legal you can go ahead. to strike targets in Russia when these targets pose a threat to Ukraine. So legally this is possible. Legally? Are they going to go to court over this, what are they talking about?! Yes! Hello Vladimir... Send the police in! And my second element of my answer will be that it's not one weapon system which will change the outcome of this conflict No we need many weapons

2:19:38 And then of course it is up to the individual allies to decide when they deliver weapon systems into Ukraine how they can be used and what kinds of commitments they give in terms for Ukraine. Where is he going to get specific like you promised? To use these systems this is not up to the alliance as a whole, this is up to the individual ally members Okay one last clip from Mark Rutte about Ukraine becoming a NATO member. We saw recently the Slovak prime minister saying that as long as he's in power, he will block Ukrainian membership What are you going to do to try and build consensus on that? Well clearly what we decided in Washington unanimously is that there is an irreversible path towards membership of NATO for Ukraine Irreversible? Irreversible! Once they start they cannot go back. We keep them going on the track

2:20:34 towards membership of NATO for Ukraine. Then, of course the question is how to take this to the next steps and stage of this? And it really has to be done step by step and that's something amongst allies we will discuss over the coming month including up to the summit in The Hague and beyond. Because this is a very sensitive issue, it's an important issue What I said last week in Kiev when I visited Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his team Yes with his team we had nice little drink with his team I visited Volodymyr Zelenskyy Is that one thing has to be absolutely clear One thing That Russia does not have a vote on this And that Russia does not have a veto

2:21:19 No, that would not be legal. Every country in the area of NATO can apply for membership and there is a sovereignization for that individual country. What a sales guy! And he comes across so confidently. I'm Mark Rutte. I want to make it all happen. I am going to get that Vladimir. Me and my boys, irreversible. It's not... it's legal! Come on man, pull the trigger it's legal do it Do it Vladimir If anyone is going to start World War 3 its that guy Yes That guy is no good And we know he's no good The Dutch know he's no good We know it Well he's no good He's no good So

2:22:15 This came in, which I have a... Let me see. I think I have a longer clip here. Let me play this longer clips about Google and the Department of Justice and this is interesting because I received the document today that I think pertains to it So it's getting harder and harder for markets remain complacent shares fell by more than 2% yesterday as we've been mentioning Alphabet is the cheapest Magnificent 7 stock by forward P.E. multiple, so yes cases they can take years even if we have a decision because Google will appeal but injunctions as we now see can take down walled gardens and in the meantime create openings for competitors hit Google's bottom line The judge in the Epic case ordered an injunction yesterday that breaks open Google's Android app

2:23:06 app But by allowing them to bypass it, bypass the walled garden Google's App Store transactions they will take a hit. In 2019 the information estimates that it made up 20% of Alphabet operating income so that is a significant amount. Google says for its own part that the verdict missed the obvious People

2:24:00 And it will likely include a list of options from forcing Google to give wider access to search data, two restrictions on exclusivity deals. To a breakup of its business units that, of course would be the most extreme option. So this kind of just I mean yeah the epic case has been going on for awhile and the judge may have some power to do some things with Google's going to appeal everything and they'll just keep this going forever But it was in light, I play this clip in light of a document I got just today actually from the oil baron from James Comer the chairman on the Committee on Oversight and Accountability with a scathing letter to Linda Kahn. Kahn! Who is the FTC commissioner and summarizing he's saying hey you are a shill for the Democrats

2:24:55 You're going out there, you're doing all kinds of things. You know but your shilling for the Biden-Harris or for the Harris team... ...you're running political cover, you're threatening all kinds of companies and just reading through this like huh? Do you think that what's happening now suddenly that this is a message to Google like you better continue doing what we agreed you do with searches and how things show up, and what videos you surface or don't surface on Google on YouTube. Feels like there's feels like there's a little bit of... It's a scam! Yes yes it's a scam if you're gonna go out and this idea about the

2:25:45 About the Google store. Yeah, what about the Apple Store talk about your walled garden? Well Apple doesn't have a huge consumer search business Well, the search thing that is different. Yeah and if the search is skewed and they want it to remain skewed I guess they're getting so much flack about it that maybe their skew is not as bad as it should be It's got to be more skewed This is the same as reports...I have a bunch of clips on this The New York Times...did I get these clips? Yeah you did, I got The New York Times

2:26:22 Yeah, this is kind of...this talks about it. Unfortunately this thing went on for 15 minutes I don't think even got the gist of it correctly but it was just too hard yeah But it was about how the left is bitching about and we noticed this because you notice that I know if you go to Mastodon they're They're all these lefties are on Mastodon bitching and moaning about the New York Times. They're not going after Trump enough! Oh my god, you mean Jarvis and uh... No, Jarvis and everybody every journalist that's on Mastodon is going on and on about we should be more proactive Yes, you know what? You're not doing it right new the broken hashtag broken New York Times Yeah, there are people that are still under dead bird

2:27:10 Hey, get with it you old fogies. Podcasting's where it's at! Sorry. Okay, all right here we go social media influencers are a big part of this year's election they whoa What happened to the podcasters social media influencers are a big part of this year's election? They translate the news for their followers But the news they spread has to come from somewhere often a news organization So we're talking with a behind-the-scenes influencer Joe Khan executive editor of The New York Times

2:27:54 In people's minds, there is very little neutral middle ground. In our mind it is the ground that we are determined to occupy. Joe Kahn is a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter who now runs The Times newsroom We met him at The Times headquarters building in Manhattan There as you know very well a long-standing conservative or Republican critique of the New York Times but this special passion and criticism of the times in this election cycle seems to me to be on the left You're nodding Why do you think that is? It's a good question and I struggle with it often because the left has really high expectations of The New York Times. I think some of them honestly distorted.

2:28:41 Because they've always been our biggest fans. Yeah, it's so weird! Oh I said we're... Oh that you said oh... I know it is like 15 to 13 now. I know, I know it was bad. I blame Tina. It does help when you point it out yes So uh Let's listen to part two of this. If you've heard about Project 2025, the conservative blueprint for a future Republican administration one reason may be that The Times covered it a lot last year You know that's something that you want to cover deeply fully fairly and provide people with some substance to analyze them I'm thinking of one particular story that we could pluck out of The River Of Time's coverage

2:29:25 And I paraphrase here, but the story used the word plan. Harris has a plan for housing Trump has a plan for housing and Trump's plan is he's going to deport illegal immigrants and make more room for everybody else. And I thought to myself that's not actually a plan That's his slogan! And i'm just trying to describe it accurately Is that an example where maybe you were trying a little too hard to be fair to each side? How is that being fair to each side? And this guy never... What is Harris's plan?! It's never reported what her plan is. And this guy who was doing the reporting from NPR, he's obviously a Trump hater!

2:30:09 And it just comes through with this discussion, and I think part three maybe bring a little more light to it. Well, I think what we've tried to do with respect to housing is housing's an absolutely major problem. We basically took it to both campaigns and said what would you do about this? Concretely not just talk about it rhetorically but what are your plans? And Harris and the Harris campaign responded, and we looked at their proposals in what they would do to move the needle on that subject. And we asked the same thing of the Trump people. You're absolutely right there response was we will deport immigrants who are occupying too much housing and free that housing up for

2:30:50 American citizens and I think we frontally pointed out in that piece that there's extremely little evidence that illegal immigrants who would be deported are occupying a significant chunk of housing it would make any difference at all in the affordable housing crisis. That was one of Khan's defenses against the claim that his paper is soft-peddling Donald Trump. What? How is that soft-peddling Donald Trump? They criticized his whole plan never mentioning what Harris's was and this is somehow soft peddling. Here, Jeff Jarvis posts a link to the New York Times opinion Joy Is Working for Harris but Can It Close The Deal? Jeff Jarvis' post Sigh!

2:31:36 The media trope that voters need to learn more about Harris. Well then, do your job and inform them! That's your job!!! Wow. You could probably just read those kinds of posts on Mastodon, they're not on Twitter and keep us entertained for days. Hashtag broken post calls this we are going to beat the reporters into retardation pugnacity ridiculous piece why might he lose women? He's a damn sexual predator say it! Is the Trump campaign male-dominated culture losing women votes?

2:32:18 Oh my god. And then he posts the Washington Post, what a pissy jealous piece of shit this is from the hashtag broken post! Oh god Jeff Jarvis calm down take a CBD grab a gummy. Grab something I mean it's like These are professional journalists. They're supposed to be doing journalism, they don't do opinion... if they were just opinion writers and this is an opinion that's fine but that's not what they claim to be

2:32:54 The whole thing is falling apart, that's the point. The whole mainstream media is falling apart They can't stand that people get their news from Twitter they can't stand that podcasts have millions of listeners and People like Call Her Daddy and Rogan make hundreds of millions of dollars They're beside themselves with envy and anger And then just take it out on anything they can And it's all Trumps fault. Well of course, because he told everybody the fake news is the enemy of the people and the people went huh that's an interesting point! The biggest kick I get out of this when he talked about it initially back in 2015

2:33:38 And he made a point, he says well you know I said they're saying the news is the enemy of the people. No I said the fake news is the enemy of the people. It turns out that the original assertion was true it's the news! It's not the fake...it's all of them they're literally the enemy of the people yes They lie and then you can see when it starts to come out of guys who are supposedly journalists And suppose reporters and people are supposed to be objective. They're not objective, and those tweets from Jarvis are a good example. That's not objectivity! Let's give nothing but free coverage to Harris because she is such a genius. She is a moron Jeff. She's an idiot you can see it in her eyes, you can see it in her responses. She's a stupid human being and that's beyond me that anyone just can't see this. It's obvious to most people

2:34:30 I was wondering what you were going to come up with. Do we need to play more of this? No, the last thing is another completely different topic and it's just not important. Alright well then let me just play this one because you won't read this on X. It will be suppressed, you heard it here. For months American billionaire Elon Musk has been in the tug of war with the Brazilian courts but he has proven to be outmuscled X will once again be available in Brazil as the Supreme Court on Tuesday ordered the reinstatement of a social network throughout the country x welcomed the news X is proud to return to brazil we will continue to defend freedom of speech within the boundaries of the law everywhere we operate

2:35:19 Supreme Court Judge Alexandre de Moraes cited insufficient safeguards against disinformation when blocking X in August, a ruling that ex-owner Elon Musk vowed to fight. But instead he capitulated In addition to paying a fine of nearly 5 million euros the social network has agreed to appoint a new legal representative in the country and delete accounts with links to the far right One of the reasons for Musk's change of heart? Pressure from investors. With its 22 million users, Brazil is the largest economy in Latin America and a major source of revenue for X.

2:35:56 Another of the American billionaire's companies, internet service provider Starlink also suffered from X's suspension. Its bank accounts and financial assets were temporarily frozen in order to cover fines imposed on X. Oh! Okay I guess money does matter over free speech Free it would for you too. It would for anybody's not dumb no, but I'm not going out there saying yeah, I'm never gonna do it Screw you, but they'll see everything free speech on me love my baby what? What? Oh. What'd you say, investor?! What?! Starlink also... Okay! Whatever you say goes. Alright then! Of course he did of course it wasn't a foregone conclusion He wasn't gonna put up with his assets being seized and he knows these South American countries they love to nationalize stuff Yes Let's let's nationalize Starlink Yeah alright

2:36:56 I have one more story here, just a little update because speaking of Elon when is he going to take over Boeing? Sticking with corporate news talks to end the month-long strike at Boeing have broken down and are not slated to resume at this time. Boeing seemed especially frustrated with the union representing roughly 33 000 striking machinists A boeing executive told employees in a notes quote Unfortunately, the union did not seriously consider our proposals. As a result Boeing has ripped up an offer it called its quote best and final that would have boosted pay by 30 percent The Union however is not backing down union members are holding out for a 40% raise as part of a long list of grievances quotes

2:37:42 They refused to propose any wage increases, vacation sick leave accrual, progression ratification bonus or the 401k match. The union told Reuters adding quote they also would not reinstate the defined benefit pension. The strike has pushed Boeing deeper into the red it's estimated to lose one billion dollars a month according to S&P global ratings on top of this 60 billion dollar debt it is already carrying. With production shut down, Boeing is being forced to furlough workers It's also exploring money-raising efforts to remain afloat while the picket line proves to be an impenetrable force This is bad They have effectively... negotiations are just done That was their last and final offer if you remember This is bad Yeah! It's bad for workers, it's bad for our aero defense space industry Yeah

2:38:38 Yeah, so I don't know how we're gonna make all those flying on Lockheed jets again and and these Boeings this is not really discussed Is this only the aircraft division or says all of Boeing does this include the the bomb guys? And the f-35 guy what it's gotta be everybody. Yeah, I mean how are we gonna get a billion a month that affects all eight divisions How are we gonna get Mark Ritter all of his weapons? Yeah, well that's the main concern. Yes I think Elon should expand his military contracting empire! I think he should take over Boeing yeah he can pretend he invented that it's no problem.

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2:42:45 And, whoop-boom! We're already at the 50s. You don't have a big list today. Whoop boom! Whoop boom! Whoop boom... Stephen Ray in Spokane Washington, 50. Ray Howard in Kremlin Colorado. Robertson Holm in Flint Michigan we talked about them earlier Edward Mazurik Sir Edward in Memphis Tennessee William Kidwell and Dover Delaware Williams Spain is Springdale Arkansas, Michelle Petty in Grand Forks North Dakota. Stephen Schumach in Zinnia Ohio and already the list is done because we have Jason Deluzio there in Miami Beach Florida last on the list want to thank all these people for helping us make 1703 or two 1702 to show that it is

2:43:33 Yes, and thank you to all our sustaining donors who came in under $50 some for reasons of anonymity but many just putting together five bucks a week or show or month whatever works for you. Noagendadonations.com And got a note from Darren the pre-show guy You'll recall we had a karma for his dad on the last show and he follows up and he says, I am a believer in no agenda health karma and the prayers that come along with it. They did the T-scan on my dad today and found a bit of scar tissue on his heart valve but not the infection they seemed to think they'd find

2:44:11 He went into his local hospital's ER on Thursday when his legs, ankles and abdomen started to swell. It all started with the abdomen. Seems not a lot of people know that's a sign of congestive heart failure I was unaware they got the swelling down did an endocardiogram echocardiogram on his heart That's when they saw what they thought was an infection in the valve turns out it was just scar tissue So his dad is doing great And it looks like he's coming home today or tomorrow We could not be happier No Agenda Karma and prayers work. We're so happy for you there once again no agenda donations calm karma of health for anyone who needs it You've got karma

2:44:51 It's your birthday, birthday. I'm so glad you're here. Anna Johnson wishes her smoking hot husband Mark Johnson a very happy one He turned 41 on October 7th Zev Green is turning 49 tomorrow Sir Bob Protector of Western Foco wishes his sister Pam a happy one Her birthday will be tomorrow and he also says Happy Birthday to his son Andrew He'll be turning 18 tomorrow as well And we say Happy Birthday to everybody On behalf of the staff and management of your Noah Jetta Show. Title change is turning faces lately. Nice changes, don't want to be a douchebag. We have a title change Captain Luke Knight of the Barbary Coast upped his donations and he is now up to Captain Luke Baron of Sonoma County and Commodore of all coastal and riverine operations therein which brings us to our Commodores we are very proud to welcome them in

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2:46:48 Thanks to your support of the Noah Jenner show and the amount of $1,000 or more I'm very proud to pronounce the KD as sir Zev Mo protector of the digital wallet by request We have a couple things here at the roundtable first of all hookers and blow rent boys in Chardonnay old cas beer and Al-tazaj chicken along with potato kugel and kombucha Also with that we've got Rubinous Woman and Rosé, Geishas and Sake, Vodka Vanilla, Bong Hits and Bourbon. We've got sparkling cider and escorts, gin jail and gerbils. We've got breast milk and pablum And of course the always effervescent mutton and mead

2:47:24 Welcome to the roundtable my friend and you also go to noagendarings.com that's where you'll see the handsome No Agenda night ring it's a signet ring so you can hit people in the mouth, it will leave a beautiful mark or use the wax that we add to your package just seal your important correspondence with and also just like your Commodore ship if you have one It comes with a certificate of authenticity And thank you very much for supporting The NO AGENDA Show Also known as the best podcast in the universe We have one report today. It's a very mini-report, you'll recall Sir Andre of the empty PayPal became Sir Andre of the broken brain and he had to go into the hospital and is rehabilitating in half his

2:48:15 side is, one half his body is paralyzed and so the folks over there in the Netherlands decided to do a little mini meetup with him. This is Frank aka Mike MeetUp Report 6th of October from Groesbeek Hi! In the morning in Damedamsterdam In the morning, it's your Andre Night with a broken brain And I've got two visitors in my hospital room here Frank aka Mike and Damedamsterdam I'm so happy with all the visitors that are coming from the NA group In the morning, thank you for your courage. IN THE MORNING! I love that there you go connection is protection that's what those no agenda meetups are about you meet people who will even visit you in the hospital when your brain is broken I'm telling ya

2:49:00 You need to go to one of these. And you could actually go to the Northern Wake Public Slave Gathering, 6 o'clock today in Raleigh North Carolina at Hoppy Endings or Saturday Michigan Local 1 assembles for the Meetup by The Bay at 2 o'clock in Barbeque... Bark... was it? Barqua BC barque a BC hmm Bay City, Michigan check know agenda meetups calm to make sure I said that right the Treasure Valley Meetup Will be taking place at 3 o'clock at the heritage Social Club and Garden City Idaho Also on Saturday the six-week cycle threat number two our democracy Oktoberfest meet up 333 at Sabala's Mexican Grill in Fort Wayne Indiana And our next show day on Sunday that too many eggs doctor

2:49:43 Meetup number seven Margaritas Keene in Keene, New Hampshire. Here's what's on the way We have Charlotte North Carolina on the 17th Fredericksburg Texas the big one curry and the keeper will be there Please join us for that a lot of people coming in for that one That's right here in Fredericksburg the 19th Bedford, Texas on the 20th Cincinnati Ohio Okeechobee Florida Spearfish South Dakota Alpharetta Georgia on the 26th LaGrange Illinois London UK Ottawa Ontario Houston Texas on the 28th Minneapolis on the 2nd of November Richland Washington Pittsburgh Pennsylvania Emeryville California on the 9th bed for Texas and Bastrop Texas whoa are we doing dueling meetups

2:50:24 On the 10th, Ocala Florida. On the 11th Springfield Missouri. The 16th Bedford Texas again. Shikopee Minnesota on the 16th Sacramento California 27th we're into December. Goleta California on the 5th West Palm Beach Florida and 15th and Adventura Florida on January 19 Just a few of the NOAgenda meetups, they go well into 2025 and beyond. Please join one of these at least once I guarantee you will want to go to more because it's just like potato chips. You crunch one and you can't stop. NOAGENDA MEETUPS Connection is Protection! Go to noagendameetups.com If you can't find one start one yourself! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

2:51:11 Okay, I so is this where we choose the ISOs the end of show I so's that always leave you with just that little oh boy. I love that show I'll be at the Emeryville meetup. Oh you will Nice. Is that another get John out of the house meet up where you just yes it is and it's but It's gonna be at the trader Vicks in Emeryville, and yeah the date there And it is see a on November 2nd this is November second That's what it says here

2:51:56 That will be... Are you available? Are you available?! That's family-friendly, so people can go there. With your kids? With the kids! So we can get to see Violet again. Oh! Specifically. Okay. How nice. Let me see. Yeah I got eyesore. What do ya' got? How many have you got? Uh, I've got four and I'll play them for you It's just wrong! Eh? That one I have Of course I have! Okay Heads I win, tails you cheated. Mm-hmm and so what? Okay, I think the so what is at least worth considering Oh okay well sorry Okay let's start with...I have two mm-hmm but they're gems one is sexy How can those two be so sexy? Oh wow already a winner in my book

2:52:47 And then just one of the podcast ones. That is the best podcast ever! Oh, I don't know which one to choose! How can those two be so sexy? I like that... That is the best podcast ever! I think it's gotta be the best podcast ever what do you think? Yeah its muddier though But it is more appropriate. It's funny, it's good... What does the troll room say? They're both too long! Okay trolls thank you. Hey everybody it's time for that moment at the end of the show John's tip of the day! Creative Master You and me Just a tip with JCD And sometimes Adam

2:53:36 Okay, so I have to do a couple things today. Oh You're going crazy First one is me had to do quick search on some right but you got to stay on the mic cuz you whenever you like I'm onto Mike and we're all over the mind if I wasn't on the mic in no way near the mic it was I'm right on top of it off mic If I was any closer than I could be behind me okay well try that First of all, I want to kill the previous tip. You're killing a tip? Killing it. Does it have to be removed from TipOfTheDay.net? No you leave it there but I think has have a disclaimer its the AliExpress. AliExpress is no good! But that brings us today's tip

2:54:24 AliExpress is no good because I purposely bought two flash drives, thumb drives USB drives whatever you want to call them advertising whatever you want to call them from Aliexpress. I call them threat vectors that i knew were phonies because you don't buy a terabyte USB drive for three bucks. They just, there's no such thing. Wow! And there was no shipping and handling so you paid it came to your door for three bucks or six dollars total? You got two terabyte thumb drives and what did you were they Pez dispensers what were they? They we're used if you put him through a system which is what I'm going to recommend as the tip of the day There are products out there in the one i'm gonna recommend us a thing called Check Flash

2:55:12 which was written by a Ukrainian, and I think the current version out is 1.17 dot zero and it was written by Ukrainian and you stick to... when you buy the drive, you have to do this at the beginning because it erases everything It will check to see if your terabyte driver really contains anything near a terabyte So if you get a bad drive, like these phony drives I bought from AliExpress. You stick it in and says no this is not a terabyte drive or 500 gigabyte drive it's a one kilobyte drive!

2:55:55 But the header inside the drive will say, oh yeah terabyte here. I got a terabyte So you start putting something on there and it just craps out after you put one video on theirs that won't retake it and he realized The whole thing's a scam And what makes him want to take Aliexpress off? The list is that They will refund your money for these phony baloney products that they sell. But, for a week over a week I went to the return site website and he's all down we can't do it now call back later so i lost like 10 bucks or whatever it cost me for these two products but you gained a lot of malware since you stuck that thing in your machine no there's nothing on their

2:56:40 Well, for one thing I didn't stick it in the machine because I ran CheckFlash immediately. Which a Ukrainian piece of software you're betting on thousands... No this is good stuff! This Ukrainian guy is a geneticist who just happened to dream this piece of software up. This software right? Yeah check it through that's the other thing so CheckFlash is the product I like It was written for Windows 8 still works fine But no, there are products out there and people can identify the best of them but they're all over the place. Things that check to download so you can see if there's any malware attached to it. Now I got this one from Major Geeks and it seemed to be okay. It didn't seem to have any malware. I have products that checked that and that's another tip but the tip is when you buy a flash drive... And Amazon has sold these

2:57:29 They have sold these fake drives that say, oh it's a 64 gigs. It's 64 gigs of buck. No! There is nothing on the drive is bull crap so you have to buy one of these checkers that checks the flash drive if anyone has better one than CheckFlash let me know we'll plug in the future but that what you do and I just bought couple of drives recently and ran them through they're fine their real So what is the tip? The tip is when you buy a new flash drive, a thumb drive or USB drive check it before you use it to make sure its legit. Alright and that's what does that software called again? CheckFlash Okay alright And what do you use these drives for? Do you hand them out to the kids who come up to the door Hey kids want some files I use them for a lot of different things For example

2:58:24 If you want to take some old DVDs and turn them into mp4's, and you put them on the drive to give one of the kids. See? It's the easiest way to do it! Hey kids... Want some DVDs? Want some movies? No one has a movie player. They don't play DVDs like you! There's no such thing as a DVD I don't have DVD drives anymore John, will you please give me your favorite? So you have to use these thumb drives for this stuff Will you send me a thumb drive with some movies Yeah what movie you want? You know the good ones

2:59:01 Those movies are... that's something between you and Tina. This has been your Tip of the Day, thanks for listening. Y'all come back now, dear. There you go everybody! A retracted tip and a brand new tip Check Flash Find them at tipoftheday.net noagendafund.com there ya go Hey coming up next on the stream let me see what we have We've got oh interesting Bandrew Says is on the stream. He's a Comixer blogger's buddy This is the benefit of three-minute shorts on YouTube using shotgun mics in untreated rooms Yeah, he's a mic expert Don't get me started on mics but he's a mic expert so End Of Show Mixes we have Let Me See Dee's Laughs David Kekta and We got that brand new guy John Valentine

2:59:58 And I'm coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, home of the October 18th No Agenda Meetup here in Fredericksburg Texas. In the morning everybody! I am Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where it's a kind of overcast maybe chilly and blue angels are flying around but you can't see them that is just great. I'm John C. Duvorak We return on Sunday with another three hours of media deconstruction just for Until then, remember us at noagendadonations.com Adios mofos a hui hui and such! I think of her as America's wine mom And then there is...I'm being stern so you don't realize how plastered i am And im making it point, talk to little girl with me Now Im gonna go upstairs and dont knock on the door cause im gonna pass out

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