Climate Change Special

00:00 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak It's Sunday May 26th 2024 this is your award winning Gilbert Nation Media assassination episode 1663 This is no agenda Revisiting lies and broadcasting almost live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6 In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from northern Silicon Valley where I am looking out my window and the ocean hasn't risen What am I doing here? It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning. Alright, this is where everyone gets to listen to us as we've sounded for the past five or six years and wait until you hear the rest of the show it will sound remarkably different... It's The Big Climate Change Special John

00:46 Yeah, you put this together based on using the new Bingit.io search engine You found a bunch of old stuff and you couldn't get it now you're telling us you couldn't get past show 100? You actually filled the whole show up Yes I started at... The first that I searched for global warming bingit.io which anybody can put together a clip show by the way hint-hint any topic you want works really well you can also embed stuff into your favorite social network So the first mention of global warming was on November 30th, 2007. Okay. 2007! A while ago? That was the first mention when I think and that's our probably our first clip up when you're talking about how nothing you know it was like there was no change it was supposed to be horrible weather and there was only one hurricane and this is consistent throughout the entire

01:40 first 100 episodes which takes us up to just about 2009 and that had two hours. I'm like, I gotta stop here! And that was only global warming it wasn't climate change even. I went ahead to like 2010 to just throw in a couple of things that have like 2 clips just throwing some extra stuff but its insane How nothing has changed. It's all about getting rid of meat, it's always about the meat and you can see all these things have changed over time like we went from cow farts to cow burps all of a sudden that change. Yeah they could do cow farts didn't get very far

02:25 And I think it's just beautiful that we have this capability now to do this so we can revisit every single mention of global warming, just in the first couple years. We've got 10 more shows to do on this! Easily, easily we can do it. All right well kick it off...I'm sorry? Let me say if you get this much material Although it's the same material recycled obviously. Exactly, well not by us by them Well what was interesting is the amount of things that I had completely forgotten about it some good revisitation Of just the source material when it all kicked off It was all very early on in the game and you'll sit there and go wow nothing has really changed those guys are great That's the main point. I want you to think those guys are great

03:15 Let's kick it off by going back to the very beginning, episode four. The science is in! Science! You know in 2005 when everyone was really jacked up about global warming there were these 26 hurricanes hit the US and so everybody's thinking you know they're all a whole climate change and also... We're fucked run for the hills Run for the hills So Colorado State they were one of all these great meteorologist area you know uh... arenas are uh... the value i don't know what they are but this is schools that have a lot of meteorologists and their big shots meteorology so that's a pretty good seventeen we're gonna hit this year it's going to be horrible is getting worse and worse worse because of global warming one yeah i was gonna say i can think of more than one no one here two states there's a few that he had the most in central america but even then it wasn't that many so as a dud

04:09 So, so I'm thinking these you know climatologists and all these meteorologists. These guys don't know anything And we're still waiting for the huge super storm that is supposed to hit the west coast of continental Europe in the east coast of the UK Science! Yeah well a lot of people think it's just a scam I mean, it's like...I think there is a climate change happening. You can tell it when you talk to winemakers anywhere in the world they'll tell you those things have changed but has improved things for the most part. For wine? That's good news! Oh yeah especially German wines man these things have come on Really? German wines which are always like...they've always made good sweet white wines that reds have never been any good

04:54 But now, and even the sweet whites are always kind of hit and miss. But in the last almost up to the last 10 years they're making tremendous red wines which is really weird nobody even believes it until it's proven to them And they're making this just one great vintage after another of some of these just terrific white wines that are well priced in this kind of an overlooked area because people don't understand them. They keep changing their labeling laws and I'm just stunned, stunned! And then I think the same thing is going to happen with Oregon, Washington especially Oregon Pinots and maybe Burgundy it looks like Burgundy's having a string which is an area that makes Pinot Noir

05:40 And it's always under ripe and they're crappy for the most part except the really good ones. Are these young vintages that you're talking about that are really good or the older vintages? No, no starting around in Burgundy it started around I'm yeah about 99 You know something like there may be nice 95, 96. It's somewhere around the mid 90s or but by the beginning of the turn of this century it was almost like they're hitting every year as a great year 2005 being the most recent superyear in Burgundy Bordeaux and every place else you just drink these wines when you get ahold of one even though they're not ready to drink yet

06:23 And you go, holy crap I haven't tasted anything like this for ever. Well next time... Next time in town we'll have to have one and you had not introduced me to a good German wine Yeah that's a good idea Dude, the problem is finding a good German wine in a restaurant in San Francisco's probably a little difficult. Although I think there are probably a few places that know what they're doing So are we going to have time to have dinner next week before I head back? Yeah Wednesday would be good. Wednesday? Shut up already! It's science Yeah, there's this wind change from the north and you can even track it on Google Earth. I have a cloud layer which is fantastic to look at It's coming down directly from the north from Scandinavia and it's like a low pressure system just... I mean dropped about an hour ago The temperature went from 15 degrees Celsius to about 8 and hail started forming so it should be snowing within the next 5 hours or so

07:26 Oh, nice. That's crazy! It's not nice? Well you know I understand it is largely due to the fact that Al Gore came out of his hole and saw his own shadow. I'm telling ya man we've had weather...I mean global warming how can you buy it when does it start?! You know supposed to be happening now so its only gotten cold April indeed. Climate change not really global warming depending on who you talk too So, I just... But now you know there was a report in Nature magazine some guy wrote an editorial saying that they did the re-data. They keep redoing the calculations and say no way no matter what we do we can't influence the climate so much as they say it's just a cycle Yeah it goes up it goes down well let's not even get into this because I don't want to deal with the email

08:13 There's something some things we say man on this show that just generates like so much email yeah, oh yeah That hey I'm making fish in my pond Why wouldn't we make but I'm watching I started off the beginning of the week with watching Bill Maher? And and they're going on it and then all out of the blue There's talking about some green thing and all the blue out of the blue Bill Maher goes when there's one other thing we need to talk about which is meat People eat too much meat and meet uses so much grain and all the great industry doesn't talk about grass-fed Which is really the trend in beef, you know today because people don't want

08:52 grain-fed beef. They want grass fed and most of these, that means a cow can graze on an otherwise useless field and actually it's part of the cycle. It's very important for them to exist there. The buffalo used to do that. Like the Netherlands has cattle. You eat grass so where is the grain thing coming from? But its part of propaganda. So Mara goes off the deep end like some vegetarian nut ball about how this is the worst thing in the world. So meanwhile, a couple days later I'm watching a green report on one of our local stations Channel 11 in San Francisco Bay Area and they have this green report and then they have special logos and some screwball correspondence that look like a bunch of...

09:37 Sorry, you know so they bring on these kind of you know look like vegetarian vegans And so the woman comes on and she goes and then the real problem is meat? And she brings up the meat thing again She's that in any her thing though wasn't the fact that they eat a bunch of grain But that there this this is the this one here which is always like a eye roller This because they fart And they give off all this methane and it's the methane from the cows that are causing global warming. I love that, yeah i've heard that one. Every time I hear this I go what are you criminally insane to even bring this up? Throw that person in jail not Wesley Snipes! Are you nuts?!

10:18 So anyway, and but this is all part of this green week And it's just like there seems to be some vegetarian undercurrent you know with the whole thing and it just makes you sick to watch it because It's like obvious propaganda and the news reporters say nothing about especially this idiotic Methane thing from the cows they say not by the way if they stop feeding him grain. They probably have less farting It just grass-fed, but that's beside the point. But anyway there is nobody brings anything up and nobody questions any of this they just parrot whatever shows up from whoever is behind the whole thing and I'm suspicious to that And I find the whole thing incredibly annoying. It is... I love it when you get pissed off

11:00 The science is in! True, okay then let me start right off the bat with a trend which is huge protests in Europe over the price of gasoline and in particular diesel. Have you followed this at all? But the diesel thing has fascinated me because even here... It started about a year ago I noticed this and I used to work as a petroleum chemist so you have You know, they have to... You've got to understand these things. Well I mean, I kind of get part of it but this there's a baffling aspect to it because this is not a normal situation but about a year ago the price of diesel started sneaking up and became the same price as premium gasoline Right Well I've made a study and I know why at least in Europe I know why its happening

11:55 Alright, go. So fortunately you have a regular increase just in the raw materials so the price of a barrel of oil is going up but what all these governments have done and there was a big protest in the UK two days ago The French fishermen are protesting they're cutting off the Atlantic or whatever the hell Is that all these governments have put extra tax CO2 emission tax on diesel And it's an extra tax because, and of course I don't think this is true. Because they say well diesel engines you know they spew out much more CO2 which of course is related directly back to this global warming meme that is out there. And I think that...I don't know if that's the same in the States but in Europe that's exactly what happened That's why their price has been driven up so far. I don't know any increased taxes on diesel fuel in the US

12:43 the prices snuck up to the price of premium and then it started creeping above it. And now, its like 10 or 20 cents higher than premium gasoline and makes absolutely no sense whatsoever in so far as the carbon footprint diesel Which of course is probably not true. I mean, the diesel industry these days... Well you get a lot of particulate from diesel fuel more than anything but it tends to be...I don't see that as producing more CO2 to be...I just don't see it. Um..I have to do a little reading and see what the heck's going on because it doesn't make any sense. Well what is happening is making everyone's livelihood kind of hard Because when you get an increase like that in your basic

13:27 you know, the basics of your business if you're a trucker or if you need diesel for any other reason then that's a real big problem. That's straight to your bottom line! Well it is passed off to the customers and so its really an issue I think they are only people who benefit from this and im starting to notice this now And this is kind of weird too there may be some connection I saw on ad yesterday as matter fact For the railroads they've been advertising on the radio for a while, but now I'm seeing TV ads Bragging about how much you know they can carry like tons of stuff or a nickel You know and it's like. I was saying why is it? I've never seen I have never seen in my life that I can think of

14:12 ads for railway transportation for you know me for products and just i'm watching this going home in fact if anything it's only been commercials for for uh... transport of people Well, here actually you don't see even that. I guess there's some Amtrak, occasional Amtrak commercials but no this was transporting cars in particular but you could tell what they were getting at They were talking about how much does it cost per mile to move a ton and its like a lot cheaper than with the truck So I dunno There is something screwy going on Im sure It will come out eventually That's science And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on.

15:04 piece of information that you know is true. I mean, global warming falls into this category with Michael Crichton by the way. I saw it. You know Michael Crichton came out at and he's...I saw his last interview with Charlie Rose and I have a copy I should give it to you- Oh, I'd like to see that yeah. Of all his interviews? Yeah And he says he knew he was going to get slammed for this but he says as far as he concerns its a crock of crap! But You could have evidence that it's a crock of crap, but because people have subscribed they have subscribed their personality. In other words it's almost like you know what I've always felt this way with the you know this Mac versus PC thing that happened or began in 1984 and just really never ended and you criticize a McIntosh and the person who has subscribed to the McIntosh by buying one and thinking is really good they think you're criticizing them yep

15:54 They've internalized, people have internalized outside information and this is a form of materialism that is very destructive to one's personality. And this type of materialism can take the form of being materialistic about information so you are totally bought into something to such an extreme that if anybody says that the information might be invalid, you defend the information even if it is invalid because you are 100% in. This is not healthy. So The Handyman he's been with this house for many many years which is good. It's his house exactly and he did the most recent remodeling with all the new plumbing and everything so now he knows how everything works He's got all the bugs he knows where it is so thats great

16:43 And he says something to me that I was like, really? And here it is on page two of the inside way at the bottom in fine small tiny print of The Financial Times. The United Kingdom has experienced its coldest start to winter in more than 30 years experts said yesterday There you go, my friend. Global warming at its finest! Actually I'm supposed to be up in Washington today but i'm not because the coldest front ever to hit the state... predicted to be the coldest days ever in Washington State are today and there's an ice storm on the east coast that's global warming for ya we're all going to die And it was snowing in Houston It was snowing in New Orleans So of course that's why they spun into climate change

17:31 change. But you know, it's very important and very relevant to this very moment Thursday and Friday in Europe the ministers all got together they had their big powwow and they've essentially built up the next phase of regulation that we'll have around finance and environment they are now linked with these carbon credits. Yep, I told you it was coming so... Yeah, I know you and these carbon credits. Everything is going to be linked to carbon credits. I'm all totally yeah because carbon credits are a guilt-free version of tax. Yeah exactly and the crazy thing is that this way your plate paying taxes and you're supposed to feel good about it well no what the analogy is paying paying a thin person monies till you don't have to go on a diet

16:43 And he says something to me that I was like, really? And here it is on page two of the inside way at the bottom in fine small tiny print of The Financial Times. The United Kingdom has experienced its coldest start to winter in more than 30 years experts said yesterday There you go, my friend. Global warming at its finest! Actually I'm supposed to be up in Washington today but i'm not because the coldest front ever to hit the state... predicted to be the coldest days ever in Washington State are today and there's an ice storm on the east coast that's global warming for ya we're all going to die And it was snowing in Houston It was snowing in New Orleans So of course that's why they spun into climate change

17:31 change. But you know, it's very important and very relevant to this very moment Thursday and Friday in Europe the ministers all got together they had their big powwow and they've essentially built up the next phase of regulation that we'll have around finance and environment they are now linked with these carbon credits. Yep, I told you it was coming so... Yeah, I know you and these carbon credits. Everything is going to be linked to carbon credits. I'm all totally yeah because carbon credits are a guilt-free version of tax. Yeah exactly and the crazy thing is that this way your plate paying taxes and you're supposed to feel good about it well no what the analogy is paying paying a thin person monies till you don't have to go on a diet

18:23 You know, it's stupid. Because all that anyone ever talks about is the credits you buy the credits you buy the credits but it doesn't actually reduce anything because somewhere someone has to produce less carbon emissions to fulfill the credit that you've purchased so everyone was just buying the credits That's what it's all about and they've got it all tricked out man. How come we're not doing this? how come we don't have some sort of deal What, the US? No you and me. A carbon deal Well, why aren't we selling credits? I mean... Well, I'm telling you! We should totally be doing this because these carbon credit exchanges are popping up everywhere. It reminds me a lot in the mid-90s of at the time we had May East and May West remember everyone was...I built a NOC. I built a NOC in Amsterdam for Christ's sake it was the thing to do have an exchange bandwidth This is next thing You gotta have an exchange of carbon credits We can run on Excel spreadsheet

19:25 Google on a google spreadsheet something like that and what kills me is I was on a website the other day says would you like to? Buy carbon credits to visit this site or something So, while this is taking place or it just took place. This two-day meeting where they decide okay they're gonna put 200 billion euros into the European economy even though that's only half of what Germany has to put in and is failing with its own country by itself but then they have all these carbon credits which is essentially about a 30 billion euro tax which is going to be levied on corporations new tax

20:09 There are over 600 scientists who are preparing now to sue Al Gore and the IPCC over their bogus climate global warming report. Which of course almost gets zero press anywhere, but 600 PhDs dude. I mean this is this a serious business well you know what the reason is because I think They have been making this claim And you were and I run into it all the time when people everything we talk about on the show somebody right away You don't know the IPCC said yes, and that and why are you even making these assertions? Yeah, and

20:48 I think a lot of people, a lot of scientists... Wait wait are you telling me that people in our audience actually use the word assertions? Well those particular people. Just want to make sure I've rarely used the word. I like it though, we should use that more often. Yes we should anyway so uh So i think there's a lot of people out there who are you know probably climatologists or they're experts in some way shape or form about and they have been put into the same sack because of this notion that everybody agrees

21:26 Everybody agrees. The discussion is over, we have consensus. It's more than consensus! Everybody, everybody, nobody disagrees with this not one single person so you're a PhD who maybe has some thoughts on it and you have some other kinds of data and your friends come up to the cocktail party and they go on about putting you, pigeonholing you with this other side. But it's even worse if you do that as a PhD or researcher your research funding gets pulled that's why people are so quiet about it because they're afraid their money is going to go away Well, the lawsuits... I think more people should join the lawsuit. There's-I'm sure there are more than 600 that could-that are irked about this In fact there is about 30 thousand, I believe but that is not all PhDs these are just the PhDs The Business and Media Institute, I have no idea who they are but this is story I just got Oh we'll get to know who they are They're a bunch of right wing nuts Yeah That don't believe in any of this stuff Okay Is it true?

22:24 I don't know. No, I'm just going to tell you that's what they were saying. That's what it has to be and where else could it be? Well they have data so I am just going to presume the data is right for the sake of argument The Business & Media Institute analyzed 205 network news stories about global warming or climate change between July 1st 2007 and December 31st 2007 They found that only 20% of the stories even mentioned there were any alternative opinions to the so-called consensus on the issues. And this just goes on and on and on about how, you know it's pretty much the media just jumped on and said okay we're all gonna die hey roll some of those polar bear footage come on let's get that out! That's good shit! If it bleeds it leads Exactly So uh... CBS was the worst Uh yeah see

23:17 151 people used by the network to promote global warming hysteria and 28 people who even questioned it somewhat. That's so much about that. It's not questioned it somewhat well, you know Bullshit yeah And and it's amazing what's taking place our financial system is going to be based on this lie Yeah, and granted hey I'm all for saving the earth. I'm all for less pollution no doubt about it But let us do something about China they're polluting California from a distance yeah

24:01 You know, there's plenty we can do and should be doing but this whole idea of buying credits so that you can continue to pollute. That somewhere someone down the line like my childrens' childrens' children will then apparently have to produce less. They're talking about a... Or plant a tree! Yeah they are talking about a 20% reduction promised by all of the EU in carbon emissions 20% That's good. I'll screw them tell your fake internet girlfriend you're gonna be afk for about 10 minutes Because it's motherfucking science time You blog the Gideon Rackman story in The Financial Times

24:42 He's a columnist and he was talking about the possibility of, you know tongue-in-cheek article about the New World Order etc. Oh right that guy? Yeah that guy So there is a follow up to that I was wondering if you'd seen it He is like your pal don't you know him No no no You've got to read his followup that he posted on this blog Okay I'll just read you the conclusion Because what happened is he says I couldn't believe the amount of email that he got from out there. He says, you know hundreds of pieces of email here's his conclusions There is an undeniable amount of anger and hatred out there directed at everything from United Nations to big business to Barack Obama These people can read but they cannot think he says so he is not my buddy dude it gets worse The end-of-days crowd is very strong I would say that about a third of the emails I got referred me to the book of Revelation

25:38 in which apparently it is all foretold. 3. There's a lot of people who believe not only that global warming is a hoax, but that it is actually a conspiracy The fact that the most influential reports on climate change have been produced by an intergovernmental panel the IPCC sponsored by the UN fuels this theory The idea is that the UN is perpetuating a climate change hoax to provide an excuse to impose a world government on America I am a part of it apparently he says totally Totally. Anyway, so he winds up. He does have a funny line at the end here Something positive has come out of this experience if the newspaper industry really goes down the pan I now have a business plan I will claim to be a former member of the Bilderberg Illuminati Council on foreign relations UN Zionist establishment and write a book revealing the inside story of a plot to form a world government It will sell millions in the face of overwhelming odds. I'm left with only one option I'm gonna have to science this shit out of it

26:40 Obama picks climate specialist as science advisor. Oh, don't even get me started on that one! Yeah, I think so. I haven't been able to find the link but somewhere I heard some or read someone that said Al Gore said these colder periods are entirely indicative of global warming. No way! Every time we bring this up on the show quite a bit... I love doing it. ...I always get an email from somebody saying it's natural to be colder during global warming, you know? It makes nothing but sense. It's natural for it to be colder during global warming yes I understand I totally get it

27:30 So that is quite interesting. The guy who was sending me the note also says, he says global warming climate change they're trying to change the term themselves is going to result in really weird erratic weather and I'm thinking because if you start reading... because I did this as a project once I read all New York Times newspapers from about 1858 to about 1868 How long did that take ya? Took a long time, it took number of months. I was collecting stories, that may not have been the period. It might've been from 1868 to 1878 but it was during around the Civil War and um... And i'm not sure, yeah, I think The Times was in business then. I think that's when I was reading. Anyways, I was looking at all these little articles- You read the originals of course when they came out in 1886 so Of course! But my mom threw them away So uh anyway

28:29 So I'm reading this and they talk about erratic weather. If you start reading the history of weather in the United States, it's been erratic since day one. Storms of frogs. You know, there'd be something happening in North Dakota. And it's just like rained frogs all over the place and I guess they were frogs that people had this... you couldn't get outside without stepping on a bunch of frogs that were raining down for some unknown reason nobody even knew where the frogs came from! And I remember that one distinctly going, she was a real head shaker and there are all kinds of weird... look what happened to Mormon legend about those locusts if you've ever seen one of those bugs, the big ones, monsters? They're scary. The size of a rat! Yeah, they're scary

29:11 And apparently they came in, you know for some weather situation and they just gobbled up the state of Utah which is still a desert. I mean this is nothing new this erratic weather we've had or than the biggest hurricanes that have ever been in the past and there's that hurricane that hit Connecticut around the turn of century sometime in the...I think it was like I can't remember the date but it was 100 years ago So this is bull. I mean, you know there's right now it's snowing in Vegas and Vegas It's snowing it's knowing in Vegas. Yeah, there's snowing in Vegas just breath weathers what we have science so whether wise we are freezing our tits off here in the United Kingdom and

29:56 I'm cooking here in Northern California. God, in the Netherlands they do this whenever it really gets cold and I haven't heard this chatter for at least a decade but then they start threatening with cranking up the 11 city natural ice canal race which is famous, famous in the Netherlands. Where it's all done on natural ice on canals under and around bridges and its 11 cities its hundreds of kilometers you know people lose their toes, their fingers, their lives but its a huge cultural deal I hope that happens again but just goes to show that there some funky going on

30:36 I know they do that in Ottawa City. Of course, it's not always freezing. But this is the legend of Hans Brinker and the silver skates right? This is what that is about. This is that story So it freezes that bad, all those canals get frozen over? Well it hasn't. It was only... Is it freezing over now or...? No no no the freezing has really started so everyone is talking about cranking up the competition but last time you know it had been a while until of course Al Gore proclaimed global warming luckily we have the 11 city canal race coming back

31:15 I'm reminded of the, uh...I've always said to people you know the day that the term paperless office was coined if you'd invested in paper mills right then. You would have made a fortune! Well, you know what my dad always says the paperless office is as likely as the paperless toilet science so much mainstream media attention being paid to Stuff like this stupid spaghetti monster hitting the wind turbine and no we've got space sounds from outer space and Obama wants to Accelerate and put us on the moon like didn't we already see that movie before but anyway We're gotta get on the moon. I'm thinking

31:53 Obama's a fractal of Kennedy. Right, well here is the scenario. The scenario is you know of course there are more and more dissent coming from amongst the slaves saying wait a minute global warming yeah okay we got to protect our earth but hold on a second what are all these taxes for this unproven theory of yours? And what they're going to do next is, they're going to have space aliens communicate with us and tell us that we are killing our world and carbon credits are good for us. Something like that in the works. I like it! Yeah... It's gonna be a hard one to pull off Are you kidding me? Only a maniac would think that could work

32:37 Uh, okay. I am in outer space and we must tell you earthlings... Science! Top of the news let me get to the story because it's breaking as we speak Oh okay There are stories coming one after another Wait a minute wait a minute wait Breaking News This is no agenda We have breaking news John Cena, which is breaking news Breaking breaking news in this case Is no pun intended because we're talking about cow flatulence again and Sheep belching so there's a breaking aspect to it. Okay hit me apparently according all these articles have just showed up In fact in today's Wall Street Journal that turns out that sheep belching may account for 12% of man-made

33:23 global warming. Okay, this is in the Wall Street Journal you say? Yeah today's Wall Street Journal big story on sheep belching because the sheep apparently belch methane and then if I was looking this up a little bit and according to one story 12% of Australian greenhouse gases come from livestock flatulence Again, another breaking story. Meanwhile I'm looking at all these different stories and if you start scratching the surface of global warming or as they now call it climate change because the other word was getting rid of too much... It wasn't working anymore. Wasn't working but I like it. I still like it. Global warming sounds better

34:08 So, if you scratch the surface of it you keep coming up with the same thing. Vegans with an agenda and vegetarians as though somebody came up with this neat idea some years ago that if you get on this global warming kick then you can attack livestock because at some point because they're belching and farting there's you could attribute global warming to them And so I run into the newspaper in Ontario called The Standard, St. Catharines is the town, St. Catharine's Standard and I think they headline kind of like says it all and it's about global warming but that the headline is we need to solve the now quote marks meat problem. Ah yes! I have a meat problem that I need solving too and you can email me

35:02 This is unbelievable, but it makes so much sense because we know that this satellite failed to separate from the payload from the cone. How ironic! Yeah this was the big fail. This was the satellite that was actually going to measure the sheep belching and cow flatulence as a part of man-made climate change from space you know? It's out of control I wonder what was going on during the era where the entire western plains were covered with millions and millions and millions of bison. Well, they... surely you know that bison... They must have farted? No they don't fart man! By the way i have done quite a bit of sheep shearing in my day when I was

35:49 Much younger we lived just south of Amsterdam in a small farming village. And it was a lot of fun really, you know the old-fashioned way with shears and I have held many sheep between my legs There's a great drop for ya! I've held many sheep between my legs but i've never heard one belch ever Have you? Well no actually have a sheep Does he belch? I haven't never noticed it Maybe when they go, bah-ha-ha that's actually a belch. Well I think I can tie a couple things together Sounds like a belch The meat problem...I like that you've latched onto that It hit me earlier this week That the smart grid Of course it has to do with energy power But it has to do with A LOT more And I started looking into it

36:47 Into the smart grid now a lot of the money for the smart grid will be dished out by an outfit call I'm sure you've heard of them. The Western Area Power Administration Have you heard of them? No, actually, they haven't heard of him Oh, okay Wow well the western power at Western Area Power Administration I'll read I'm just reading from their website wapa gov part of the government um and As a part of the Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, which is the big stimulus package. It grants the Western Area Power Administration authority to borrow up to $3.25 billion from U.S. Treasury. Basically they hand out the grants. I'm looking through going down as deep as i can right?

37:44 Any grants we can get? Well, interesting. So they're handing out a lot of money to GE and IBM these are the two corporations who are going to receive most of this smart grid money and IBM writes about well here's a little piece from IBM as it pertains to their grant The world is becoming instrumented. By 2010 there will be a billion transistors per human, each one costing 1 ten millionth of a cent. The world is becoming interconnected with a trillion network things cars roadways pipelines appliances pharmaceuticals and even livestock the amount of information created by those interactions grows exponentially and as you look through it apart this smart grid

38:37 We'll be tracking livestock. Ah! So, of course how do you track livestock and also livestock feed I'm sure is going to be a part of it. When you track livestock it's very simple because even my pets are chipped they all have little chip inserted and that's RFID chip and they can track each individual piece of meat or part of the meat problem The science is in! Did you know that Gordon Brown was in Washington? did any of that reach you amidst all this Proposition 8 and Britney Spears news We, all we know is that apparently Gordon Brown was supposed to meet with Obama and Obama says it's snowing so they called a snow day. Really? Oh man! And they never had the meeting as well I mean that's the last I heard maybe they had the meeting since Well this there were couple of snow days being called Nancy Pelosi was supposed to speak at the Al Gore Tony Blair was there at the global warming conference Of course she got snowed out couldn't land for the global warming conference

39:41 Global warming snowed out. Do you have any idea who this man is? Yes, we have. It appears their agenda is political I don't care what their agenda is This is science! I won't be scared into not doing my research This man's not your normal radical Prince Charles who just when I thought the guy was gonna be okay from AP Britain's Prince Charles warned on Thursday mankind has 100 months or less to save the planet from a climate caused disaster Didn't they say this like a couple years ago? 100 months or less here's what bothers me. We had a story that we have one it we have a climate change junkie on the bond blog He's always every time you post any skepticism he posts something else since we're all doomed and

40:31 But the one that gets me is the more recent mention of this guy, climate change expert Nicholas Stern who's told 2000 climate scientists meeting in Copenhagen that if they fail to clearly tell humanity what it faces if global temperatures reach the upper range a forecast made by IPCC which is the, which we have United, who started all this. The United Nations Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change and Destroying All Western Economies should be the real title. He says there's been a lot of scientific evidence he goes on and on and says new findings show that these projections were vastly understated and everyone oh it was worse than we thought what I'm thinking when i read this stuff

41:16 Can't you get this right? I mean it's like worse than we thought, better than we thought. It was worse than we thought Where are the numbers are so solid why do they keep upgrading and changing them in flux? In other words if were so solidly, you know we have strong evidence that's irrefutable and everyone agrees. Well did everyone agree that it just changed? I can't believe that Prince Charles is not on the front page of every single newspaper with this listen to what he's saying The best projections tell us that we have less than 100 months to alter our behavior before we risk catastrophic climate change and the unimaginable horrors that this would bring What are those horrors you ask John

41:59 Any difficulties which the world faces today will be nothing compared to the full effects which global warming will have on the worldwide economy, he said. It will result in vast movements of people escaping either flooding or droughts Droughts in uncertain production of foods and lack of water and, of course increasing social instability And potential conflict it will affect the well-being of every man woman and child on our planet What's happening is the science is screaming at us? And The papers here again the George Monte Montbeat from that guy's a communist he wrote a book about

42:43 Someone sent me a link to his book on Amazon. Are you familiar with his book? I'm no Manifesto of a new for a New World Order God it's where the gods big red book manifesto for a New World Order Okay, now. You know you read that guy and I just makes is one of the few writers I don't read him that much But I run into his stuff because he you know even The Guardian you which is a red paper And so I'm reading this stuff and look again It's just it's so I can see why some people maybe don't like my commentary about Macintosh Because you actually start your blood starts to boil about halfway through it mainly begun his case because I know how to write propaganda And I can see him using this technique. It's just a befuddle the poor reader article from The Telegraph who are on to this

43:34 What's worrying the globalists are all the signs that the world's politicians coverage on Copenhagen in December to discuss a successor to the Kyoto Protocol under the guidance of the UN IPCC, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. There'll be so much disagreement that they won't be able to get more drastic measures to cut carbon emissions. So the name of the game last week according this article as we see from a sample quotations was to win headlines by claiming everything is far worse than previously supposed sea level rises by 2100 could be much greater than 59 centimeters predicted by the last IPCC report

44:11 Global warming could kill off 85% of the Amazon rainforest, much more than previously predicted. The ice caps in Greenland and Antarctica are melting much faster than predicted! The number of people dying from heat could be twice as many as predicted!! This is out of control. So what they've actually saying here, as again which I brought up in the last show is that they don't know what they're talking about because if all their predictions are wrong why aren't they wrong again? Obviously they don't know what the hell they're doing Read this article from The Telegraph it's in the show notes It will open your eyes A whole bunch of dignitaries were in New York at a climate conference, including the current president of the EU. The crazy Czech guy who says global warming is a hoax and no one reported on it! No one... not a single report This is why the newspapers are folding Yeah because they suck! Because they suck

45:07 Why don't we get, you know I mean it's like everything is directed. It's like there is somebody orchestrating everything and the newspapers are part of the orchestration so we don't get a broad spectrum of opinion. It's all targeted, you know? Everything has got to be this way, it's gotta be that way...it's all knee-jerk It's unbelievable to me. And then these guys are moaning and groaning about losing their jobs. Yeah, well how about you just suck at your job? I can't take it anymore. Talk about something else. It is possible it could happen. I'm waiting for the first bailout of a newspaper You watch that's how crazy this world has become The government will bail out even though that would be unconstitutional It wouldn't be unconstitutional

45:46 Yeah, it has to be unconstitutional. Like the Constitution means anything these days? Why don't they bail out the Catholic Church? Still no extra reporting on Baxter International Oh yeah there we go...there's another thing Where are these stories I think there was one story an MSNBC had Yeah, somebody sent us a link or you send it to me. Yeah the Zobacsi International which purposely mixed up flu vaccination with bird flu virus and they have now admitted it was a live virus

46:27 Yeah, so they had mixed up the regular flu vaccine with a live bird flu virus and coincidentally this is the only company that has a vaccine for bird flu. No no it's not the only company I've got to correct you on that. Okay well its one of the companies that has a stockpile of bird flu vaccines. And deals in place billions of dollars in deals. But first you have gotta infect the public! Yeah otherwise you can't sell it Because bird flu doesn't seem to be catching on. No, it's the meme is not traveling fast enough yet. Powered by science! We didn't talk about this on the last show although it was au courant at the moment lawmakers started earlier this week that would be you know like people in congress and people who you supposedly elected and are supposedly doing shit for ya

47:15 They're starting to have hearings about energy and global warming bill that would of course revolutionize the way we produce and use energy, and how were taxed for it. And the last time we had this type of bill was acid rain I guess was the scam at the time. Actually the smog... We got rid a lot of the smog which is why people are buying into this crap So the laws are coming and they will be taxable, and you'll be paying taxes on anything any use of carbon. What a scam! Make the pig with genetically modified pigness and then charge people for the pig farts I mean these guys got it so locked down Whatever happened to acid rain? Acid rain...acid rain

48:05 It was a meme and it went away. I remember that acid rain meme because I remember one of these 60 minute shows, they're saying all the statues of Italy are all dissolving because of acid rain! Was Fox News around then? I didn't know that. No, like 60 minutes it was like some report you have acid rains dissolving all the statues of Europe and just imagining these things, oh I'm dissolving And then they find some old statue that was all screwed up looking and say, look what happened. Yeah well we had the great ice age that was coming We had all of that Oh and there's a coincidental thing that's interesting to me That it's the climatologists which is a fairly new discipline Once they got hold of this global warming thing They start getting money

48:59 They were there if they had just having their graspers not gonna let this baby go cuz it's like hundreds of millions If not billions of dollars and research grants and all kinds of dough, of course. Yeah, I don't understand why we're not we should be a time promoters of this crap just to get as much money as we can You're doing it so wrong We should be like Jackie Chan, do like Jackie does man. Sell out at the drop of a hat! Yeah sell out man just sell the heck out. Darn... So we can't live with ourselves ladies and gentlemen that's why we don't do it There is great story on AP which of course will get... this guy has book coming next week He is former Food and Drug Administration Chief in Command And I'm paraphrasing this article now

49:56 But here's a direct quote from him, I guess in the book. The food industry has worked out what works they know what drives people to keep on eating In the next great public health campaign of changing how we view food and the food industry it has to be a part of it Basically what he's saying in this book is how the food industry Has figured out through neuroscience that the combination of fat and sugar You know, sparks of dopamine in your old noggin there. That's your little pleasure spot there the same that gets hit by alcohol and other fine products available in the wild and that essentially what this former FDA chief is saying is you're hooked on crap and we know it. That's science

50:48 And science is one cold-hearted bitch with a 14 inch strap on. Here we go, hydropower disaster for global warming Large dams have dramatic consequences. Ecosystems are destroyed and numerous people are made homeless, often without adequate resettlement but it is yet little known that large-scale hydroelectricity is a major contributor to global warming. The reservoirs could despite their clean image be even more devastating for our climate than fossil fuel plants A few years ago I spent my money goes on and on

51:25 on. And I'm thinking two things, one is this guy serious or and by the way let me go down to graphs or three graphs he says mega hydro has an atrocious record the world commission on dams WCD consisting of experts opposition and industry was installed to produce an independent review of large dams. The WCD estimates in 2000 that 40-80 million people have been displaced worldwide." 80 million? Anyway, the uh... seems unlikely. I mean just the number doesn't sound right maybe in China whatever the case is

52:02 This could have been you know this kind could be a piece of propaganda put out by the oil industry obviously that you know keep people on the right track to using fossil fuel But I don't think so. I think this is actually just some typical reactionary in the sense of let's you know we can do anything well, it's just cover ourselves and put ourselves in a cave somewhere, and ride it out. Yeah if it's not the hydroelectric power its bovine flatulence. Oh that's the class. See the thing to me that this whole global warming thing always boils down to is veganism

52:43 It's at some point, you don't care what nut ball you're watching. If you're watching the Green Planet they have a whole net channel now on the Dish Network and elsewhere called Green and it's just a bunch of horrible shows that are self-serving except Emeril's is actually pretty good because he still just cooking You know emerald green and get it yeah, and then they have the guy who does I got a disc for you? I'll send you with a couple of these shows on it. Just like just like all the other ones you sent me But is but at some point always becomes Vegetarianism I mean there's always related There's always a vegetarian angle and they're always gonna gets kind to veganism And let's get rid of the herds of cattle unless just eat you know oats

53:29 And it's always that element. I've never seen anybody that doesn't have that element in them. Let's eat dirt and chalk. They're behind the whole thing, PETA, the vegans and you know the crackpots at Whole Foods... You know what? I gotta tell ya, I don't talk bad about PETA at all because those people frighten me to death! Those are the ones that will wind up actually killing you. I'm very afraid of really radical act... and look, i love animals but there's some very very radical elements out there in the animal activism space and they do kill people Yeah because people are meaningless crap every time it's all about the animals So along the lines of global warming you want to hear some earth shattering news? Right

54:23 Scientists from the United Nations, IPCC have now determined that the earth will be cooling for the next three decades. Now these are the same people who brought you global warming now known as climate change. Quote addressing Washington policy makers in Seattle, Washington Dr Don Easterbrook said the shifting of Pacific Decadal Oscillation, that's PDO for short from its warm mode to its cool mode virtually assures global cooling for the next 25-30 years and means the global warming of the past 30 years is over. The announcement by NASA that the PDO, Pacific Decadal Oscillation has shifted from its warm mode to its cool mode is right on schedule as predicted by past climate and PDO changes.

55:12 and is not an oddity superimposed upon in masking the predicted severe warming by the IPCC. This has significant implications for the future, and indicates that the IPCC climate models were wrong in their prediction of global temperatures soaring one degree Fahrenheit per decade for the rest of the century." Doesn't matter no one else to hear about it John. It doesn't matter well, I'm blogging it That's what I mean no one else will hear about it Being so the link it's kidding me of course not when did that come out? These guys are just unbelievable. This is 11 December 7th actually is when this came out came up to December 7th and that we haven't it hasn't been I didn't catch it until I suppressed all But this is you know, this whole shifting of the poles and the solar winds and the diminishing of the magnetism of the poles All of this goes back to 2002

56:13 So this is before Al Gore's inconvenient truth. NASA and other scientists were saying, oh this will change the climate it could make it warmer or cooler but they were literally saying its that that is the cause not man made You know, it's all over the news now. It's mainstream publications just no one is doing anything with it. Yeah maybe but we're still all going to die if we don't stop our cows from farting and stop generating power from the ocean. Stop eating meat yeah. That's basically what boils down too. Stop eating meat

56:51 Because there's- they're animals. I mean, this is people of course who anthropomorphize the uh... you know, all animals from my wife has it that there is because they watch too many Disney cartoons with all these talking animals Usually sounding a lot like Eddie Murphy In the face of overwhelming odds, I'm left with only one option I'm gonna have to science the shit out of this You have something called fat people clip? Oh yeah, well this is a... we can save this for another Real News segment or we can do this one. This is what..this is an interesting uh...uh...this kind of changes the direction of the show little bit but this is a news report that came out like a week ago now it and you know everything has to have a global warming angle so now there's news and this is an actual news report that was done on I think it was K I think was either

57:44 I think it was either KPI, I think it was KPIX and in San Francisco. And they're blaming... Sorry? No no, I'm sorry, I just started the clip prematurely Oh okay play the clip Kit Do on why researchers say obesity is bad for the environment Obesity and global warming, both heavy topics now linked by a new study from the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. It says people who weigh more tend to drive more and eat more. And all that food? It's shipped on average 1500 miles from where it's grown to your plate. Fat people researchers contend are killing the planet more so than those who are thin. Alright finally something I can stand behind! Now you're talking kill the fat people this is good now

58:31 Now we're really in this. The funny thing about this report, which went a lot longer by the way I didn't want to play the whole thing there's a bunch of puns throughout because the reporter couldn't take it too seriously and then throughout the report all they showed was the fattest people imaginable! The TV guys loved to show this and you know you never see their heads It's just either a shot of their big butt or their big gut that is hanging over, bouncing off their knees. But what people have got to realize is this exactly where we're headed and yeah we laugh about it now but its no joking matter because they literally are already doing in the United Kingdom with

59:13 with parents, you know. They can take your kids away from you if they're obese or if they're deemed obese and they are going to do it under all of these new rules and regulations. You know hey man! Your too fat! Your killing the planet! Your anti-socialist, anti social behavior we got to cite you for that And by the way look at this lovely camp we have all set up why don't you come over here and well train that all off ya So what else you got on your list? I'm looking for the audio or preferably video so i'm not going to read this whole thing because I have the transcript but I'll do it on our next show. Maybe someone can help me find the actual source material of Al Gore lying to Congress, Representative

1:00:00 Blackburn was questioning Al Gore at the global warming legislation hearings, which you know we talked about this so now watch out because here it comes. Here come all the taxes on everything that emits carbon including the actual words coming out of your cake hole and he talks to... I guess it's a he right? Blackburn I think so. He talks Gore completely into a corner, basically making him say or admit that he is profiting from all of his green initiatives and just reading the transcript it's beautiful but what happens is... So here it is, I'll just read this

1:00:48 So you're a partner at a venture capital firm. They've invested $1 billion in 40 companies that are going to benefit from cap and trade legislation, remember that? So is the legislation we're discussing here today something you are personally going to benefit from?" And then the transcript goes, Al Gore sighed I believe that the transition to a green economy is good for our economy and good for all of us. And, I've invested in it... You need to have The Lisp in your voice to make that really work and I can just see him sighing like at 12 o'clock. That's exactly why I want to have the real source material. So, I have invested in it but every penny that- I can't do The Lisp. Every penny that I made I put into a non profit

1:01:30 the Alliance for Climate Protection to spread awareness of why we have to take on this challenge. And Congresswoman, there you go, Congresswoman if your...if you believe the reason that I have been working on this issue for 30 years is because of greed You don't know me! And then Blackburn comes back and says, no sir I'm not making accusations. I am asking questions that have been asked of me and individuals constituents that were seeking a point of clarity so i'm asking... So here it comes Every penny that I've made has gone to IT my non-profit every penny from the movie, the book uh... from any investments from renewable energy I've been willing to put my money where my mouth is do you think there's something wrong with being active in business in this country?

1:02:13 So he immediately throws the, you know is doing business bad? He's out and outright lying that it's all in a non-profit because it's not. He's making tons of dough off this and he left the White House with two million dollars reportedly in his pocket And now so far has invested thirty five million dollars of his own money for profit endeavors. And he sitting there saying to Congress no no no this is all nonprofit Unbelievable. Yeah, well everyone who listens to the show know that we're no fans of Al Gore. Using science! Newsnight on the BBC this week they had a complete documentary on PowerShift09 Oh nice Now powershift.org people can go out there and check it out It's green activists

1:03:08 And essentially, the government has taken over this particular conference and they loaded it up with Obama people. The keynoter was the EPA woman Paul Podesta that one of the staffers, one of the major staffers second in command to these other guys looked like the organizer from the way they had this thing structured uh... the show this documentary bill clinton was there does everybody with loaded up there is a load it up with these guys and here's what i'm so much in this thing thinking well this is just another and they got all these kids as a bunch of young people and again amal pumped up with you know this green green green green green stuff and you know global warming and so then they jump to showing some of the behind-the-scenes seminars are there those have the breakouts go of course

1:04:02 So the breakouts are training to kids on civil disobedience, resisting arrest. How to do sit-ins properly, how to lock arms? How to do passive resistance. Wait a minute now let me get this straight and I would have been anybody who happens to be one of those people...I'd like to ask you question since when does the government train the youths to do these sorts of things The first thing i thought it was either Nazi youth or the young kind... Well wait a minute! This was American youth or British youth

1:04:39 The first thing I thought of was either Nazi youth or the young Communist Party. This is training the youth... Well, when is the government training...? Wait a minute! Was this British youth or American youth? I'm confused. American youth. This was all Americans. What?! But this show as you know it's a British show but if this was in the United States this meeting and it was our government training kids to do how to do sit-ins how to lock arms how to resist arrest... And against who!? There's resisting against the government? Oh there ya' go Apparently not. I would think it's resisting against big business who doesn't do what they're supposed to do. Oh my goodness! That's the only thing... Only thing I can think of.

1:05:16 It was stunning. I was shocked! I saw Rahm Emanuel, he was interviewed on CNBC and i didn't see the whole interview just saw a soundbite but one of his answers was literally you know we're in a fantastic place right now where there's an opportunity to figure out what the relationship really should be between big business and government like oh my god guys just out-and-out saying it that they want have control this gotta be some kind of takeover or some kind of relationship Yeah, and if you don't knuckle under then the kids are going to be sent over there to protest sit in. Harass you essentially this is harassment

1:05:57 I mean they're training the kids to be harassers, because there's people who haven't signed on 100% to the green initiative. And of course the whole thing boiled down once again because it was a keynoter and everybody else brought it up. Cap-and-trade cap-and-trade carbon credits carbon credits cap-and-trade John Broder wrote his article seeking to save the planet with a thesaurus And I'll just read the first couple of paragraphs. The problem with global warming, some environmentalists believe is quote global warming. The term turns people off now we've talked about this because remember it went from global warming to climate change listen to what's next

1:06:35 The term turns people off, fostering images of shaggy-haired liberals economic sacrifice and complex scientific disputes according to extensive polling and focus group sessions conducted by EcoAmerica a nonprofit environmental marketing and messaging firm in Washington. This is how the shit's being sold to you? Oh yeah! Instead of grim warnings about global warming the firm advises to talk about our deteriorating atmosphere Drop discussions of carbon dioxide and bring up moving away from the dirty fuels of the past. Don't confuse people with cap-and-trade, use terms like cap and

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1:10:35 Please, everybody. We hope thank you all very much. No agenda donations dot com and we're going to head back into it and we'll be back at the end of the show. Stay tuned here comes more climate change bullcrap So if I look at the grand overview of everything that's going on in all the horseshit that were following when it comes to climate change Here here's kind of what I'm thinking Here is the theory that I'm working on Call it a conspiracy theory If you must So clearly, clearly there is knowledge that in the next few years and probably it will coincide with 2012. Go ahead say it oh brother

1:11:12 Clearly there is knowledge that there are big changes afoot and it makes sense. There are changes, the magnetic poles are reversing we've got all kinds of massive magnetic and solar activity you know the earth is changing the earth changes all time its evolved throughout its history only six thousand years as you know I believe that there is actual knowledge that lots of crap is going to happen and that there will be weird... I'm not calling for destruction, devastation. We're all gonna die but yeah we could see flooding in weird places. We could totally see shit coming down and I think that's why all these stories are being launched and that's why Al Gore can say with such certainty that you know the science is clear

1:12:04 and uh... well while you're at it play the clip i gave you now okay almost second this is a one-sided hard on larry king she's issue from the from the view joy they have to come media and she's a comedian that there is one of the women on the view okay when we go she's on larry king and jimmy bitching about but sorry guys he can be bitchy about rush limbaugh And this pertains to 2012 somehow? Just play it. There you go. There's no problem, I mean this guy Rush Limbaugh...I used to work with him years ago and I sort of am friendly with him in a certain weird kind of way. They did pills together. He constantly is talking about how there was no global warming Every climatologist in the world

1:12:51 Says there's global warming every scientist has said there is a problem We're all on this earth together and this guy goes out and says that there's no global warming who was he? What is he talking about it who are these ditto heads that agree with him I'd like to know aren't they breathing the same air that we are. I don't think he has a degree in meteorology That has nothing to do with climate So of course that implies that either Al Gore has a degree in meteorology. I think he has a degree in astrology. Or that Joy has a degree... But this is the thing that gets me about this stuff, which is every... The word used every not some or most... No! Every single one

1:13:39 This is what the problem is with this argument and why it sets off a bunch of alarms and red flags with me. When you start saying, because this like going to Israel and getting in agreement with anybody they're just gonna be debating forever! And then scientists don't all agree on anything! Isn't that the definition of science? Sorry, he's not almost a definition of science that it's not truth. It's debatable Yeah So how does every with no exception? Every climatologist in every scientist this is bull I mean when you start hearing that you know something's wrong Dr.. Tyson what do you make of all this my calculations show that scientifically

1:14:23 We're screwed. Geneva says within days they might declare level six for the first time in their history For what? Yeah, for the flu! Swine flu Why don't they just pack it in and say they were wrong They can't apparently They just can't admit it It's like these guys' jobs depend on it Oh crap you know we started this now we have to finish it I'm reminded of global warming So yeah, so it's North America Australia and Chile 21940 cases 125 deaths. Dude that's less than normal flu and that's the pandemic? They can't give up because they've got to support all these deals with the pharmaceuticals for all of these stupid inoculations for the vaccinations I mentioned this last week or last Thursday mm-hmm They want to do three shots a year Jesus you're kidding me

1:15:18 No, it was like an article. Three shots a year they're gonna advocate three flu shots What do you need three? You only need one during the flu season Well the question is advocate or mandate That's the question In the US they have a lot of trouble getting a mandated flu shot because that's just not going to happen It's unconstitutional that fiasco with the swine flu sometime I think it was back in the 70s where they had to oh, the swine flu is going to kill everybody. 76? And the shots killed more people than the flu did! Yep, 76 I believe John So i'm reading about this guy you know who the guy who do you know the name of the asking this question and hopes that you don't because I figured you know who...I think a lot of us are skeptical about things always forget some of the prime movers You know whose the guy that's the father global warming

1:16:08 Oh, I think you sent me this in the show notes. Go ahead. I'll pretend I don't know. Yes James Hansen Is he a NASA guy? Was that the story? Yeah He's the NASA climatologist who made some testimony in 1988 In front of Congress claiming man-made global warming was taking place and we have to do something about it And then Gore became his pal and so did... Okay, that part I didn't know. He was actually the guy that inspired scam artist Gore to come up with this PowerPoint? Is that how it worked? Pretty much yeah. Mm-hmm He's the inspiration So anyways, so i'm just reading through something or other and then I run into this old posting from January

1:16:53 Which I don't know, did I miss it or was it to get no press? I didn't even blog it. Did I know? I don't think maybe if this is on the blog we should go look but how his supervisor John Theon sent out this note after he's retired and not the supervisor and doesn't work at NASA anymore that Hansen was an embarrassment to NASA He was never muzzled and this guy Theon says all climate models are useless And let me just read a couple of things from the note that was sent out. Retired senior NASA atmospheric scientist John Theon, the former supervisor of James Hansen, NASA's vocal man-made global warming fear soothsayer has now publicly declared himself a skeptic and declared that Hansen... Oh here is the reason I dug this up because Hansen just was in the news a couple days ago saying it's worse than I thought! We're doomed! We are all going to die

1:17:50 And he's targeted coal. So, he was arrested with Darrell Hannah up in West Virginia picketing some coal company. Oh, with Darrell Hanna right? Yeah and so he was up there getting arrested with Darrell Hannah Anyway, the guy says by the way if you got to get arrested it might as well be with her Yeah Get handcuffed to her and he declared that Hanson embarrassed NASA with his alarming climate claims instead of Hanson was never muzzled Theon joins the rapidly growing ranks on but here's the one they'd interesting quote is here First all he says he thinks it's he likes to join a group. That's a skeptic this guy He says

1:18:33 uh... note nasa scientist james hansen create world wide media frenzy with his dire climate warning is calls for trials against those who dissent against man-made global warming is one of the guys it seems everyone who says it like what time saying that should be arrested and his claims that there's a legend in and his claims he was allegedly muzzled by the bush administration despite doing fourteen hundred on the job media interviews yes science now the uh... the title this is gagging internet Apparently Cass Sunstein, a Harvard Law professor who has been appointed to a post within the Obama administration that will grant him powers as the article says that are merely mind-boggling.

1:19:17 It explicitly supports using the courts to impose a chilling effect on speech that might hurt someone's feelings. So this is how he's working on stifling free speech on the internet. Yeah, it's good at practice. It might work. It might, he has a new book which is coming out advanced copies of course were read by the journalists who wrote this article his book is called On Rumors How Falsehoods Spread Why We Believe Them What Can Be Done? it's going to reviewers ahead of its September publication date but considering the prominence with which Sunstein is about to be endowed and I'm gonna fuck he's actually

1:20:01 He has been chosen by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. John, finally! The Ministry of Truth is here! It's about time... The White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs This has been reported in the Wall Street Journal but you haven't really heard about this because we're more concerned with Michael Jackson's murder And let me see if I can find, here we go. He worries that Sustein that we're headed for a future in which quote people's beliefs are product of social networks working as echo chambers in which false rumors spread like wildfire That future though already here according to Sunstein

1:20:46 We hardly need to imagine a world, however in which people and institutions are being harmed by the rapid spread of damaging falsehoods via the internet. We live in that world! What might be done to reduce the harm? Well... He questions the libel standard Basically it comes down to a notify and take that puts you in myself in the driver's seat when it comes to some of those early lawsuits. Yeah, well I was always somebody saying something nasty about us right? It hurts my feelings. My feelings are so freaking hurt John what he's going for is a libel So a system

1:21:30 notify and take down so if takedown notices for untruths on the internet so if you write an untruth yes notify and take down they'll be those what are you gonna this is to be going to be the government doll because they're gonna have to hire millions of people to do this I want a job but I want I got to study some law I gotta pass the bar I gotta get into some kind of law program take down notice for And by the way, how does that work with global warming? Oh well. Oh geez! Well of course you know if... If you say that global warming doesn't exist You'll get a takedown notice Yeah You'll get a total takedown notice We were talking about um

1:22:16 What's her name? The weird chick who was testifying. We had a sound clip of her last time. Jeanine Garofalo She looks like Jeanine Garafalo, but no that is not the one. The other one. Lisa Jackson Apparently two years ago the Supreme Court passed a ruling that said that EPA which she now heads would be allowed to create legislation to stop greenhouse gases.

1:22:53 And she would, but there were several other memos that basically said there's no science to support that greenhouse gases are creating global warming. There is also a proviso within that scenario you described that she, the head of EPA or any head at EPA not just her can define and they talked about this in these hearings can define anything as a greenhouse gas if they want to, you know? Yes. So helium could be a greenhouse gas. Well, I think CO2 pretty much covers most things since that's the shit we're exhaling when we breathe so i think they did a pretty good job. There are going to be attacks on that you have to hold your breath It is law it fact its science and there's an article that people should try to track down I'll send you make sure will be in the show notes which is the telegraphs article on July 11th 2009 just came out climate change this sun and the oceans do not lie by Christopher Booker

1:23:52 And he goes on and on and on with the, what a crock that this seems to be. Especially the cap-and-trade but he makes... let me just read this very funny first paragraph The moves now being made by the world's political establishment to lock us into December's Copenhagen Treaty, to halt global warming are as alarming as anything that has happened in our lifetimes. Last week in Italy the various branches of our emerging world government G8 and G20 agreed in principle that the world must buy 2050 cut its CO2 emissions in half. Britain and the US are already committed to cutting their fossil fuels by more than 80%. Short of an unimaginable technological revolution, this could only be achieved by closing down virtually all our economic activity. No electricity, no transport, no industry... All this is being egged on a gigantic publicity machine by the UN, by serried ranks of government-funded scientists, by cheerleaders such as Al Gore

1:24:48 Last week, comparing the fight against global warming to that against Hitler's Nazis. And by politicians who have no idea what they are setting in train this makes it even odder that the runaway warming predicted by their computer models simply isn't happening This is being pointed out only by... There was somebody the other day who said right when talk radio listeners get this kind of information and they've never goes into the mainstream appeal always baffled then they cite like to do university uh... student fake uh... rape charges that everybody knew was phony that listens to uh... real news but didn't new york times are still promoting running these kids out of school is just typical this particular it's stuff right now i'm hearing a lot about it

1:25:38 They have not been able to confirm any warming whatsoever over the past five or six years and there's no sea level rising. There are 30,000 scientists who aren't led by the guy who started The Weather Channel who are suing Al Gore and the UN about the so-called science of global warming. You don't even hear about that! No, of course not... 30 000 of which 8000 are PhDs. 30 000!!! The science!! This is from our buddy Andrew Orlowski from The Register. This is quite amazing to me. The CRU, the Climatic Research Unit

1:26:26 which of course has provided the global climate data set, which is the most cited surface temperature record kept by the IPCC from the UN. So basically this is the data that the phony baloney scientists... I just can't wait for the email The phony baloney scientists of the United Nations IPCC, of which not all were climatologists And of course there's now 8, 9 thousand other real climatologists who are against this research. So this was the research that was used that led to eventually an inconvenient truth and of course all the way down to the cap-and-trade legislation has sparked all these global warming unrest They say they no longer have the raw data

1:27:15 What? Yeah, they don't have the raw data anymore. There was a number of freedom of information requests that were submitted and for the raw data of, you know so they're the ones that keep all the historical data of surface temperatures and here is what they say. We are not in a position to supply data for a particular country not covered by the example agreements referred to earlier as we have never had sufficient resources to keep track of the exact source of each individual monthly value. Apparently they don't have USB drives Since the 1980s, we have merged the data that we have received into existing series or begun new ones. So it's impossible to say if all stations with a particular country or if all individual records would be freely available. Datted storage availability in the 1980s meant we were not able to keep multiple sources for sites only the station series after adjustment for homogeneity issues

1:28:13 We therefore do not hold... Homogeneity. Homogeneity, we I think i've done that with someone once we therefore do not hold the original raw data but only the value-added ie homogenized data Manipulated want to use that word yeah oh that just blows me away That's a good one from Orlowski That's a fantastic it's awesome Yeah, so the answer you have to read stuff like that in the register. Well I read the register a lot because it rocks Because of exactly great publication But it seems to me You know can we donate to the register how do they make money? They'd make plenty of them any more money than we do oh really shit It should be donating to us

1:28:59 So, yeah. The headline is Global Warming Ate My Data! We've Lost the Numbers Says CRU As They Respond to Freedom of Information Requests The World's Source for Global Temperature Records Admits It's Lost or Destroyed All the Original Data That Would Allow Third Parties... Lost or destroyed? Yeah. Well that what he said. Jobs lost or destroyed?! Data lost and destroyed. This is actual data that spawn this whole global warming debate It is no longer available because in the 1980s we didn't have enough money to buy hard drives. That's basically what he's saying. He could've written it on a piece of paper! Print it out! Science is truth. Mara is going to be sarcastic

1:29:45 in response to a big debate about global warming. Oh, global warming! So Cathy Griffin comes in asking a semi-serious question and Maher throws a sarcastic remark at her that you know she says who... I'm going to give you some of it but you have to listen to appreciate it She's asked what is causing this? And then Maher sarcastically says well its the Democrats so they can ruin the economy mocking what some right wingers might say She takes his comments seriously. It goes, flies over her head... she's a comic by the way! Flies over her head about a mile and Mara tries to recover but the whole thing falls apart you can hear Mara go buh-buh-buh-buh and but the whole thing falls apart because everybody gets into the fray it is one of the funniest little scenes I saw on the show

1:30:37 People are more skeptical of global warming now than they were 10 years ago, especially young people. This is really scary. Young people in great numbers think it's a hoax. Then who was behind the hoax? Who was behind the lie? Democrats to make sure our economy fails. Then how do we change it? Is that corporate mentality? I mean who perpetuated this notion that global warming is false? The people, well I think it's a small number of skeptics who get disproportionate coverage on the media. And some industries that don't want to be regulated And you know she tries to get it, but they all step all over him and the joke is lost. I think it was that same show that he said California is in flames because of global warming! You know nothing about climate jackass. It's actually because of a cooler climate that has made California extremely dry. It is exactly the opposite

1:31:36 And that to me, that's like huge disinformation right there. Anyway we will continue to watch the show because it irritates us and that is a form of... Come on man! That's a form of entertainment NASA is shooting off rockets to create artificial clouds in the outermost layers of Earth's atmosphere It's called The CARE Project Charged Aerosol Release Experiment And they're literally creating a cloud of artificial dust over the earth. Why would they want to do this? This is what happens when a volcano goes off and kills everybody in the world! And it's aluminium oxide, dust particles that they'll be spreading...

1:32:26 And I, well of course this is like maybe we can stop global warming. No no it can't be about that. Okay! You think so? All the links... Let me tell you this, I was at an event and there was a guy from NASA even though nobody from NASA seems to know who he was who went off with this half-baked theory about putting up all these crazy satellites that would then open up these huge panels and block the sun. It's not like Montgomery Burns in a Simpsons episode! That's funny And he was gonna block the sun, and there are a bunch of people typically in the audience nodding their heads in agreement Yeah good idea This guy is criminally insane He should be taken out now Well it gets worse

1:33:13 Tomorrow, Friday NASA will launch a spectacular mission to bomb the moon. This is not science fiction! It's about time we get a bomb in the moon so they can bomb the spot where we didn't land The L-Cross mission will blast off from Cape Canaveral Florida carrying a missile that will blast a hole in the lunar surface at twice the speed of a bullet All fast as a bullet go. I don't know. Bullet goes about Mach 1.5, maybe. So space scientists want to see if any water ice or vapor is revealed in the clouds of the debris? You know what it's just not a good idea to be shooting at the moon! It just doesn't...

1:34:03 You know the old saying, shoot for the moon? Shoot for the moon son. Well they're doing it! But this creating clouds is all part of geoengineering and we haven't actually talked about this but there's a lot of these kooky things like expand the panels There has been talk of trying to push the earth and move our orbit a little bit This is dangerous and crazy thinking This is not a good idea But spewing aluminium oxide into the atmosphere or even if it's above the atmosphere, it just doesn't seem like a good idea. They'll be tracking the dust cloud for days or even months to study its behavior. Well maybe years of this thing... How is that going to come down? It's not going to rain! There's no rain that's gonna take it out. Where how's it gonna dissipate?!

1:34:53 Let me see what they say. The US Navy, NASA and the US Defense Department... Ooh! What are they doing in this? ...have made a decision to conduct one or more atmospheric tests in order to create an aluminium oxide dust cloud without permission for the most part of knowledge of citizens of United States Eventually they say that oxide particles will return to earth polluting air water soil They don't say that. How are they going to return to Earth? I dunno, well let's see how high up it is going. We gotta find out... Well if it's kind of like in the uh... In that layer where the Concorde used to fly, I guess eventually it will come down to Earth. I don't like it

1:35:40 No, I don't like this sort of experimentation with the...I think the United Nations should correct it. Where are they in these pictures? This is an international situation! In other words people in France and by the way I want to thank the people from around the world who gave us money but the people around the world why should this aluminum cloud be floating over their country? Yeah thanks NASA It's really, I think there is a treaty violation here. You can't just throw crap in the air like that you know unnaturally and then just because you think it's fun experiment Climate climate climate climate climate climate climate This is Chris Matthews Ron Reagan and a black guy which I'm sorry don't have his name who has to hold his own against them when he brings up the climate change issue Here goes

1:36:30 In the interest of this country, everybody knows the same thing basically. There is a climate change problem anybody who reads the paper thinks knows somewhere down the line number two The man has something to do with it and number three we gotta stop depending on Arab oil or we're crazy So you gotta do something about it right? And he's doing something He is doing something You say everyone who knows anything says that there's global climate change I think they are serious scientific disputes whether or not that is actually viable But let me address your question. You really challenge it? Of course I really challenge it! We've seen what happened in East Anglia over in England where they discredited the scientific research of these people, and I think that is a gimmick... There are people who question evolution, that doesn't mean there isn't evolution! Oh Chris wait a second so we're supposed to take scientists who have a fiduciary interest in this that could benefit them

1:37:20 Oh, fiduciary interest. Nice! Nice good word. This is party line. No this isn't party line I've actually researched this Why should we take hook, line and sinker with what some of these environmentalists have said about global climate change? Why don't we have an honest debate why don't we have the conservative voices that are not actually addressing it Because the weather in Boston right now for the last x many years it's the same as it used to be in Florida And let's get it warmer and more. Oh, I mean it was sure warm here on the East Coast We had blizzards that was one of the huddles when the coldest winters on record. You're discrediting yourself Ron Actually actually Ron Reagan, I'm actually making my point It was one of the coldest winners we have you're a boy with everyone that discredit to you know what doesn't do your thoughts

1:38:02 Well, listen. Weather is not climate so let's forget about it. Climate change doesn't even have to be part of the... It isn't! It isn't Ron and you know as well as I do. We're talking about one year we're talking about a trend line. Forget about climate change for the moment because we don't even have to discuss climate change. We can discuss national security here everybody knows forget about climate change everything that is in the future is in solar and wind sustainable energy sources that's where we have to be going now no I take such exception to that that's unbelievable it's bullshit how about nuclear there's all the guy the Republican there he's teaming does that you and then they jump him up jump on him for that in fact is the clip still yeah not in the not to the past

1:38:47 We've got to be going to the 21st century, not the 19th. Now Ron Ragan here's where I agree with you. I agree with all those but you need to add one more component of that. You need to add nuclear energy. France has over 80% of their domestic supply supplied by nuclear energy How come the only thing you guys like about the French is nuclear energy? That's about it! On any topic you eat your french fries and make fun of their freedom fries Oh my god. Anyway, this is an example of being shouted down for having any kind of thoughtful consideration whatsoever you just get shouted down by these guys and that's how this whole thing the science in everybody agrees anybody would Matthew says anyone who reads a newspaper agrees in other words the scientists not going to...

1:39:37 The scientists don't only agree, but anyone who reads a newspaper also agrees. So everybody agrees except idiots and the funny thing is they have these memes that they keep putting out Arab oil, Arab oil we don't even use why don't they be honest about it and say it's Alberta oil? Most of the oil from in United States that we use is from Alberta Canada and Venezuela We have very little oil from Saudi Arabia Very little And then they throw this nasty little comment about, oh well if you don't believe in global warming you don't believe in evolution either? Which is a really ridiculous specious jump leap of faith that's a chicken shit thing to do. You know Matthew should be ashamed of himself for even being on the air with this kind of crap. Indeed I had like a jaw dropping moment when I got this particular clip

1:40:30 thinking, what? Did anybody go over this script or was this ad-libbed. I can't believe they even let this censors like this bit go through play it. Hey Jenna so nice to meet Paul and how much do you know about him well my lost a toe ring in them so i say a lot no I mean what he does They probably didn't understand it. Unbelievable! I'm listening to that, what? They're trying they're doing you know they're doing anything they can to get ratings how bad is it when you have something like that in your script and no one talks about nobody talks about nobody cares nobody notices No... What can we do?! Let's get more weird

1:41:20 That show of course is well known for also pushing the agenda. They put global warming stuff in there, they're definitely on board with the propaganda. Well it's Hollywood. Yeah You're in La La Land I mean that whole thing is out of Hollywood So we got some climate change clips and we've been sitting out Wow yeah do we Let's play my climate change 1 and 2 and see what it says. I can't remember, these have been in the rundown for weeks on end. Check it out! The ice caps are melting! The polar bears are dying! What is this from? Do you know now? I can't remember.

1:41:58 It's not Bret Michaels by any chance, is it? No. ...by Yale and George Mason universities found that 56% of Americans don't trust public figures like Al Gore and Sarah Palin on climate change as much as they do the local weather forecaster And your seven-day forecast will show those showers... And the climate change scientists, they're scientists. They freely admit they haven't always been effective spokespeople for their cause I plead guilty! I don't think we've done the best job that we could have done Penn State's Michael Mann is one of the scientists who last year had his emails hacked and quoted worldwide by climate change skeptics as

1:42:38 yeah so this is a this was a um now i'm getting where i'm remembering this is either uh nightline or something on PBS and they were showing the difference between the climatologists and the weather guys, the meteorologists. And this debate was a very interesting debate because the meteorologist made a lot more sense than these other guys who are just all in. I don't know. Climate change too, and... There's no serious debate within the scientific community about the reality of human-caused climate change. No debate! Of course there is no debate

1:43:21 It's funny because they're on a show where they're debating. Part of your job is to convince all of us, isn't it? I don't see my job as convincing anybody of anything... No! You just have to believe what i say! I went to school dammit!! ...I see my job as a scientist making sure that the public discourse is informed by an accurate understanding of science And that may be one reason doubting meteorologists had such a huge opening to convince the public otherwise But then again, I'm a ditch digging meteorologist. Just a bachelor of science. This is the biggest forecast of them all and the stakes are much higher than what they're bringing on. Now unfortunately I don't have the notes on this anymore but I did a lot of research and we'll probably bring it up in a future show but in the 70s...and you can look this stuff up

1:44:12 The science was in and all the climatologists then of course were predicting global cooling. Except for one guy who apparently spent with global warming the whole time, and there's another guy who has been global cooling to this day the whole time but for the most part it was always climatologist that we're convinced that we're going to have global cooling is gonna be the worst thing ever and there were huge articles in Time Magazine, Newsweek. And it was the same...and you'd hear that the pitch was exactly the same as the... Yeah, exact same script. Exact same script! Yep I don't know Well so um This is why our Wikipedia page has been ruined by this Churba character C-H-U-R-B-A So the global warming

1:44:59 Whether true or not, there's a lot of the people who are claiming that this is horrible and happening and it's all because of us. Is are the same people who stand to make a lot of money? And we've talked about this many times on the show. We've shamed Al Gore for his business dealings. An I'm happy to see investors business daily which I would say is reasonably well regarded No, absolutely. In fact Horowitz is a huge fan of that publication especially the weekend edition I guess Okay so here it is titled The 10 Trillion Dollar Climate Fraud and it outlines exactly what we have mentioned on this show in fact I should probably do a little... We told you so

1:45:44 So, it starts right off. Well senators from a froth over Goldman Sachs and derivatives A climate trading scheme being run out of the Chicago Climate Exchange would make Bernie Madoff blush And his trail leads to the White House is exactly what we told you Wow I just did something really weird I tried to use my finger on the screen of my Mac to scroll the page Whoa that was strange Thinking it was an iPad Lost in the recent headlines is Al Gore's appearance Monday in Denver at the annual meeting of Council of Foundations, an association of the nation's philanthropic leaders. And he said time's running out! We have to get our act together you have a unique role in getting our act together and it goes right on to say how... Do you find it odd

1:46:34 That despite all the climate gate and the scandals and the arguments that are legitimate by lots of scientists, I mean there's just amazing number of heavy hitters that have thought this thing is something bogus about it. And they want to talk about it more than not convinced that this is just as though there's no nothing happened. Nothing has happened, right? We're marching, marching, marching in the same direction. Oh yeah! Do you find it odd I mean it's almost like you know it's almost like a little kid covering his ears and going I can't hear you you know kind of thing is almost reminds me of that extreme. Yeah but John when you have Bret Michaels

1:47:20 Possibly not appearing on the final live episodes of celebrity apprentice. How can you even be bothered with any of this? So this just going back to To this gore thing and I love that investors business daily a very serious publication, and yeah Yeah You're right Let's see if anyone jumps on this Of course they won't because the whole thing is a scam everyone in everyone everybody wants in on it He set up the Chicago Climate Exchange which is Now a part, which was this guy named Sandor. I mean we went through all of this stuff who by the way is the guy that claims that the climate trading of carbon credits could be at 10 trillion dollar market which is why everyone's shutting up about it they're like hey how can I get in? But what you need to know is that the client... The Chicago Climate Exchange was set up with grant money from the Joyce Foundation and on the board of the Joyce Foundation was Barack Obama

1:48:21 Oh really? Yeah, we talked about this on the show. So he's all in? Of course he is all in! Everybody's in on this scam and... It's a form of taxation Well the cap-and-trade will be but then another thing that wasn't reported And the cap-and-trade keeps marching forward how can that happen? Well they've changed it to remove pollution But then on Friday and I'm sure you didn't see this reported Atlanta-based CME Group has agreed to pay $604 million for Climate Exchange PLC. This is a London based operator of the Chicago Climate Exchange and Chicago Climate Futures Exchange, $604 million

1:49:11 The combination of climate exchange's emission markets and ICE futures and OTC energy markets is an important and logical strategic combination. So what they've done is, they've seen that the heat is on right? They see oh my god we have shit man you know the heat is on all this and everyone's looking into Gore's investments and yes there are a number of ex-Goldman guys who were built this trading company so now they're gonna hide it in another group and they've just folded it in. And, uh... It's gonna be harder to track you know we won't be able to point to the evil Al because he'll be on the outside of it all and this gets no play not a small deal by the way more than half a billion dollars for something that doesn't even work yet

1:50:01 Yeah, that's pretty amazingly expensive. That's just based upon future possible revenues and this is the trading desk! This is like a computer It's like a PC It's like a big-ass computer that they paid a lot of money for The global warming is happening and humans are the cause There's not another side to the issue And it turns out this guy doesn't believe in peak oil This Holdren guy. In fact, he's come out as a staunch opponent of peak oil. That is interesting Well it is interesting for a number of reasons So I go back and forth with our friend And two things come up Number one They program all these climate models in Fortran Which is kind of funny It's like a step below Cobol Guess what's going to happen next year when their new computers are supposed to come in? Guess what's gonna be in there

1:50:58 Right IBM Watson, of course. See this is this is how the this is how the propaganda works First you show that this thing can't be wrong. This thing is awesome it wins Jeopardy It's fantastic You've got to love IBM Watson. It has a personality it talks to you It's fantastic and now it is going it's gonna actually come out and say I have predicted that climate change is real You must be careful humans We must reduce all greenhouse gas emissions by 83 percent by 2050 Final Jeopardy answer is I guarantee you this is gonna happen Watson will be on television talking to us about climate change because no one believes the politicians But Watson, I mean how can you how can you argue with a jeopardy winner? Let's be honest. So IBM is up for the contracts for the new climate change computers That's number one and I have a tip I have a tip for everybody if you are in a conversation we should put this in one of our emails John if you agree with it

1:51:55 If you, and I verified this with our insider. Peak oil of course is perpendicular to greenhouse gas emission reductions because... And i think that most people who believe in man-made climate change The climate is changing no doubt about it but we've got the sun exploding all kinds of stuff happening right now But if you are in a conversation with someone there's a 95% chance they also believe in peak oil So this is how you trap them. You say, oh you believe that we're responsible for all this climate change? Yes! Do you believe in peak oil? Yes! Well then we don't have to worry do we?! Because we'll just run out of oil and then we'll have no problem That's a good one Seriously! I like it It's a good talking point And this is why Holdren is against it

1:52:43 Because he knows, and they're always really quiet about it. You never hear people yelling hooting and hollering about peak oil because... Because it's logical inconsistency that he spotted Exactly! Exactly So he has to say oh god what are we gonna do about this one? Yeah but isn't it beautiful you just say hey I guarantee you people who believe in man-made global warming No no you're right because its the same mentality The mentality is that everything we do is screwed up because we're humans and we're, you know wrecking the place because were just bad people. We are burning up fossil fuels so usually... You know what? Problem solved! Peak oil will run out of oil hey we may have to walk unless we figure out battery technology but we won't have to worry about greenhouse gas emissions cause we won't have anything to burn now will we

1:53:30 And watch people go, uh... because it freezes your brain. And this Holdren he's against it of course he is! He's a little late to bring up that. That's funny because there's no way you can all of a sudden change gears amongst the crowd, the climate change crowd. The warmists. You can't all of a sudden pull the plug on their very strong belief about peak oil. That's a good one. But as it comes to... That's the winner for the show As it comes to man-made global warming, which means because of our cars and all the oil we're burning Evil oil evil oil Because of that We're all going to die so we have to reduce that Well with peak oil Great! Problem solved

1:54:19 Ah, good to hear peak oil again. Oh peak oil we forgot all about peak... what happened at Peak Oil? What a crotch! It never peaked after we said hey peak oil you know the problem solved no more climate change after the oil runs out they all went oh there's no agenda boys are on to us. We gotta stop Well if anyone has any ideas for um a global warming special After we did the climate change or whatever else you can come up with Bing it dot IO is a great resource as are all the show notes no agenda show net and I'm looking forward to thanking a whole bunch of people who supported this show on the next one which will be live on Thursday Yep, yep. He says alright. Thanks very very much appreciate you helping me at the ending here

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