Episode 1566 · Thursday, 22 June 2023

Hush Up Boy!

From the approval of cultivated chicken to the financial architecture of Ukraine’s reconstruction, global institutions are quietly reshaping the definition of sovereignty and food security.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 4m listen | 39 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1566

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The USDA approved the sale of lab-grown chicken from Upside Foods and Good Meat, marking a shift toward bioreactor-produced protein in American restaurants. While NPR reporter Allison Aubrey compared the taste to traditional poultry, the rollout coincides with a massive media focus on the OceanGate Titan submersible disappearance. Despite warnings from the Marine Technology Society regarding the safety of the Stockton Rush-led vessel, the search dominated headlines as global leaders met in London to coordinate a $400 billion Ukraine reconstruction effort managed by BlackRock and JP Morgan.

Financial shifts continue as IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva announced a global platform for Central Bank Digital Currency interoperability, just as the Federal Reserve prepares to launch the FedNow payment system. In the political sphere, Special Counsel John Durham testified that the FBI lacked proper predication for the Crossfire Hurricane probe, while Hunter Biden reached a plea agreement on tax and gun charges. Meanwhile, President Joe Biden sparked diplomatic friction by labeling Xi Jinping a dictator shortly after Secretary of State Antony Blinken reaffirmed the One China policy regarding Taiwan independence.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. utilized the Joe Rogan Experience to advocate for a peace-centered platform, invoking the anti-war legacy of John F. Kennedy and the military-industrial complex warnings of Dwight Eisenhower. The segment highlights a cultural shift through an archival Fred Rogers song about biological gender, contrasted with modern TikTok activists linking body size to white supremacy. The program concludes with reports on HCA Healthcare mortality metrics and the impending UPS strike over two-tiered wage systems.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Chloe Grace Moretz and Courtney Cox Name Changes

The program opens with a discussion regarding actress Chloe Grace Moretz and the timing of when she added her middle name to her professional billing. A similar observation is made regarding Courtney Cox and her name change during the filming of the television series Friends.

chloe grace moretz· courtney cox· today show· friends· name changes

00:00 Live! And over there and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6, In The Morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where i'm wondering when did Chloe Moritz become Chloe Grace Moritz? I'm John C. Dvorak. Crackpot & Buzzkill! IN THE MORNING! Wow a riddle this early on in the show A Riddle Who is Chloe Moritz

00:42 Chloro nuts Chloe Grace Moritz. Yeah, who is that? She's a actresses she's very if you saw her you know who she was She was on the today show our three this morning I was watching as eating as those eating breakfast More interesting would be when your show ever well You know as we were rewatching friends because we do from time to time We noticed the moment when Courtney Cox became Courtney Cox. Wouldn't she marry? And I forgot... Why are we even talking about this? I just mentioned it as an opener, I didn't want to talk about it. What did you have for breakfast?! Of course! How was it going? What do you have for breakfast is more interesting!

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

OceanGate Titan Submersible Disappearance and Safety Warnings

The disappearance of the OceanGate Titan submersible near the Titanic wreck is identified as a major media distraction. Reports surface regarding a 2018 letter from the Marine Technology Society to CEO Stockton Rush warning of catastrophic safety issues. The vessel's use of a Logitech video game controller for steering is noted as a common practice in military drone and submarine operations.

oceangate· titan sub· stockton rush· titanic· marine technology society

01:29 I had a pancake and an egg on top, Grand Slam style. Oh truckers truck stop breakfast! I love that excellent well good then you're ready for... The distraction of the week on No Wood's Agenda Yeah, this has got to be the biggest distraction of the week. Everybody falling for it The most emailed articles The most emailed and posted theories And you even participated at some point No. Yes you did on no agenda social I did? Yes, you did You're like yeah that was my thought like they probably hit job on somebody Oh the hit job guy Hit job oh yeah The Pakistani billionaire Yeah it's the sub Back in 2018 industry experts expressed concern about the Titan sub in a letter addressed to Stockton Rush The CEO of Oceangate which operates the sub

02:25 In that letter, obtained by the New York Times and later authenticated by ABC News. The Marine Technology Society warned of potentially catastrophic problems with the Titan's development that could have serious consequences. The group insisted on oversight from a third party organization. There has been a lot of headlines calling this a tourist sub. This is not a tourist sub. It must be understood this is an experimental craft and that there are significant risks attached to it. Kemper says after the letter was leaked, Oceangate CEO made changes. She made it more clear that this is an expeditionary or a experimental craft. Meanwhile many observers have been surprised to learn the vessel is steered using of video game controller but that does not concern experts. Few people are aware of is that the US military has happily embraced

03:17 this kind of technology. We are operating drones, we are firing lasers, we're even operating periscopes on US Navy submarines using similar technology I love this story. This is the story everybody wants, oh yeah man! And this is why we all watch space launches and we want to see him die come on man listen... We want a whole... Now if it will be very... That's the NASCAR theory Yes It'll be very unsatisfactory for not- If were not pulling dead bodies out of a sub depleted of air That's what we want. The whole world is captured by it, it's almost like a kid in the mine. Well I had no intention of ever discussing this story but I'm glad you did and by the way was only brought into it as a response to somebody mentioning my thesis Yeah but I mean...you engaged man

04:10 You engaged in the distraction of the century. The game controller aspect of this is, is the funniest part Yeah! This show was run on a game controller what are people talking about? It's totally... It's a great product Yes we love it Remember when- where's the data glove bring the data glove back I love that thing remember people were hacking the Data Glove from Nintendo Remember that thing? Yeah, vaguely. Oh! That thing was cool Well you have one I have some...I had one at some point definitely Definitely oh, I thought that thing was the best You know my favorite thing about this story is the people coming out of the woodwork to talk about how dangerous This isn't and my favorite guy Was with some character who says all it needs as a nick in the hull

05:04 And it'll collapse on itself. Yeah, that's what we're all waiting for and I love the... We heard knocking with one of our probes but we can't find it. There supposed to be somebody who heard knocking from an airplane? What was that story about? No they dropped a probe and then they said the same probe they dropped to blow up the Nord Stream pipeline. Okay so that was one story but the next story This, I love this story. We've been tracking it we've been tracking everything from fake meat to the new cell-based meat which is this ghastly idea of extracting cells from an animal presumably a chicken or a chicken egg and then growing meat

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

USDA Approval of Lab-Grown Cultivated Chicken

The USDA has approved the sale of lab-grown chicken produced by California-based companies Upside Foods and Good Meat. This cultivated meat is grown in stainless steel bioreactors using animal cells rather than traditional slaughter methods. Initial distribution is planned for high-end restaurants in San Francisco and Washington D.C. associated with chefs Jose Andres and Dominique Crenn.

usda· lab-grown meat· upside foods· good meat· cultivated chicken

05:50 in a big vat and then serving that as... Like growing bacteria. Yes, growing cells like cancer cells so the USDA... I wonder if they use guar? Explain guar so everyone knows what it is. Oh it's this goo that you put on the bottom of the Petri dish to get mold. To mold stuff yeah they might! So that's what I'm thinking. So the USDA approved the use of this, approved this now that's not the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration but the USDA approved it so it now can go into some restaurants and there is a whole new marketing tactic behind it and I just have to go through this because...I mean there's money behind this their scripts behind this its identical scripts you're allowed to do a variation if you will

06:42 But of course, initially this was climate change. We need to move to protein and soy-based meat because cow farts are killing the world! According to Greta. I think it was yesterday...it was five years since the world would expire thanks to her tweet. Yeah she said that the world will come to an end yesterday. Not to an end. She didn't say this yesterday she said it five years ago but predicted it was going to be yesterday. Didn't say come to an end but it would be pretty much Hell. Yeah, it would be hell so ABC who of course get paid the most money and see if you can figure out what the key is in this report and then I have three other really short ones and then I have them the mega native ad from NPR This morning the USDA for the first time has approved lab-grown meat to be sold to the public So that's where it all starts just a few cells two cultivated meatballs

07:36 producers now getting the green light to begin commercially selling their chicken products. Lab-grown meat is created using cells from living animals such as fertilized eggs, which is then incubated and grown into large masses of meat in these stainless steel bioreactors. ABC's Devin Dwyer recently got a tour of California based Upside Foods where meat is cultivated. You're making chicken in there? Yeah so if you look at this this is approximately 200 plus liter tank and we take cells from a chicken or an egg. It takes two weeks to grow the equivalent of one chicken, 1,000 chickens or 100,000 chickens." So you're saying in this factory you can make more meat faster and cleaner than an average farmer? Well ultimately yes

08:18 The company says lab-grown meat could be instrumental in helping feed the world's growing population as meat demand rises, while using a fraction of the land and water of animal farming helping to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. Critics argue it is no silver bullet with potential for major socioeconomic implications and questions about how the meat is labeled. Many experts say more study is needed More research and just caution. I think that a lot of companies are going to use or present the best case scenarios as for how the lab grown chicken tastes, right? My first bite cultivated me. It's chicken. Yeah OK so if the payoff is the same for everybody oh it tastes like chicken but did you catch the new marketing the new marketing that they're using no not really You take it from living animals

09:11 Not you don't kill an animal Living animals. The age of lab-grown meat has arrived in this country, the agriculture department just approved two California companies to sell chicken grown in steel tanks using cells that come from an animal egg or a special bank of stored cells. The cell cultivated chicken will first be available at a restaurant in San Francisco and another one in Washington DC owned by famed chef Jose Andres before hitting stores Now CBS didn't get any money They didn't use the script. Do you know that chef by the way? The famed chef? Yeah, he's a famous chef Okay well he needs to be checked off the list He is no good No I think all of Fox affiliates they got the ad buy For the first time US regulators approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells It allows two California companies to offer lab grown meat to restaurants

10:07 The cultivated meat is grown in steel tanks using cells that come from a living animal, a fertilized egg or a special bank of stored cells. A living animal and this Fox affiliate took it one step further! The US Department of Agriculture has approved the sale of chicken made from animal cells. Cell-cultivated or cultured meat as it's being called is grown in steel tanks using cells that come from a living animal comes out in sheets cut to mimic real meat, they say. Two California companies Upside Foods and Good Meat have raced to be the first in the US to sell meat that doesn't come from slaughtered animals." Ooh! Nice variation not from slaughtered animals So you could only imagine the bubbly women at NPR would just have a field day with this one. NPR has slid so far downhill

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

NPR Coverage of No-Kill Meat and Environmental Claims

NPR reporter Allison Aubrey provides a detailed account of tasting cultivated chicken, describing the production process as similar to brewing beer. Proponents claim this technology reduces the environmental footprint of meat production by using less land and water. Critics and skeptics question the long-term health implications and the philosophical stance of vegans and vegetarians toward cell-based animal products.

npr· allison aubrey· cultivated meat· bioreactors· environmental footprint

11:02 It's it's this is something you'd expect from Gimlet, you know. What is a Spotify podcast? I don't know if you think you're just noticing that this has been going on for a decade now. You have actually accentuated this in recent shows with these women dingbats yes. I hate to say but they're dingbat indeed US Department of Agri she'll start off just we've got to analyze this she starts off serious and the minute she knows she's getting to the story and to her, her compatriot... Comedy partner in comedy. Comedy partner! She starts to get all jitty with it The U.S Department of Agriculture has for the first time in history given a green light to two US companies to sell meat that is grown directly from animal cells without slaughtering the animal See, she got the slaughtering the animal meme This is very good So she's read the required copy Until recently It was called lab-grown meat since scientists were developing it in labs

12:06 Now though, the labs have been replaced by production facilities that can grow tens of thousands of pounds of meat a year. NPR's Allison Aubrey has visited these companies and tasted the meat and joins us now. Hey Al! Listen to that! She's tasted the meat Now though the labs have been replaced by production facilities that can grow tens of thousands of pounds of meat a year. NPR's Allison Aubrey has visited these companies and tasted the meat and joins us now, hey Allison! Hi there! Hey Allison hi there it's time for serious report So Alison what exactly did the USDA approve today? Well for thousands of years eating meat has meant slaughtering animals Slaughtering animals

12:49 Are you getting the marketing pitch here? But the scientists behind the two companies that received USDA clearance today say, that's no longer necessary. Instead they produce meat by extracting cells from an animal's body and then they feed the cells and literally grow meat in big stainless steel tanks! Does this sound like Bill... She should be fired immediately. Does it sound like Bill Nye the Science Guy, female version? I mean, they're just jumping over this thought. She's gushing is the word! Thank you Their production facilities look like breweries almost but instead of beer they're brewing meat Brewing meat?! Oh yes! Is she the science editor?

13:31 I miss it because she's really doing a good job. I do not know how i feel about that but okay let's go on here we've been hearing about so-called fake meat for a long time now, I mean a lot of us have eaten our fair share of veggie burgers or impossible burgers over the years but what makes this different? What makes this different?! This is nothing like the impossible burger! Oh John did you know that this is nothing like the impossible burger Impossible burgers over the years, but what makes this different? This is nothing like the impossible burger or veggie burger which are made from vegetable proteins. So soy potato protein and a bunch of other ingredients that are mixed together mystery ingredients to taste like meat What's approved for sale today actually is meat when I

14:20 Oh, it actually is meat. Okay I'm happy to know that this stuff you grew and of- you brewed You brewed this meat and it's actually meat. ...that are mixed together to taste like meat, what's approved for sale today actually is meat! When I visited Upside Foods which is headquartered in Berkeley they prepared their chicken which is grown directly from chicken cells It's more than 99% chicken cells... It was pan-seared... What's the other 1%? That's their secret ingredient! Kind of lovely buttery wine sauce Oh John oh she got duped

14:57 They put this hunk of cell cultured pre-cancerous goo into a lovely buttery wine sauce. Ported in Berkeley, they prepared their chicken which is grown directly from chicken cells it's more than 99% chicken cells It was pan seared and kind of lovely buttery wine sauce I mean Allison you're kinda bearing the lead here How did it taste? How was it? You know, I think almost anything cooked in butter and wine probably tastes good. What did impress me is the texture they've basically replicated the texture of chicken breast. I told the CEO of Upside Foods Uma Viledi Hey, it tastes just like chicken! Oh this is... everyone's got the great line taste just like chicken and this guy I mean are we sure that he's actually the chicken growing guy or is he the guy from Google? I don't know It IS chicken

15:48 It's just chicken grown directly from animal cells in a different way. Yeah, it is not right there. It's a lie it is not chicken. It's not chicken. It's a tumor What they're doing is growing tumors Well at least I have the text how is that not a tumor? I'm in agreement rebranded get out of the way rebranded quick chicken tumor Tumors. Just plain old tumors, tumors in what? Tonight we have a tumor... Tumors and wine and butter. It is chicken it's just chicken grown directly from animal cells in a different way in a very clean controlled environment oh now dr. Velletti is a cardiologist that's also interesting how they do but its clean

16:46 clean environment not you know that immediately makes you think of chicken poop, nasty ass chickens walking around. I mean this is actually a... oh i should have played the jingle feel bad about it this is A War on Chicken we had to war on chicken before remember yeah but yeah we probably have a jingle here it is the jingle The War on Chicken. We predicted this years ago that this would happen! Years ago? It's just chicken grown directly from animal cells in a different way, in a very clean controlled environment. Now Dr. Velletti is... Can you stop it for a second? Yeah sure

17:32 So these journalists, and you've already given us ABC, CBS, NBC. Now we're on NPR. Does one journalist anywhere say to that guy is there anything else besides chicken you can grow like beef or buffalo? or yak, or dinosaurs? Or anything. Is there any other thing you can grow besides chicken?" Can we go woolly mammoth? I think we have a woolly mammoth sellout. Did anyone ask that simple question that would be the first thing i'd ask? It wasn't asked per se but it came up as kind of a toss away at the end of this report my question would be can we grow human meat for consumption

18:15 I hear human meat is delicious. What did impress me is the texture, they've basically replicated the texture of chicken breast. It's just chicken grown directly from animal cells in a different way and very clean controlled environment Now, Dr. Velletti is a cardiologist who became a vegetarian but he loves the taste of meat and he thinks this is a better way to produce meat one that could be better for the environment and as the son of a veterinarian He likes the idea of sparing animals lives. Oh don't kill the chicken! Okay so where can people buy it or get a taste of it? Right now, don't expect to see it in grocery stores. To start out both companies have kind of teamed up with famous chefs Upside Foods is working with chef Dominique Crenn and Michelin starred chef in San Francisco and Good Meat the other company that got clearance today has partnered with megastar Jose Andres who will yeah you know these guys well this she mentioned Dominique Crenn

19:15 Yeah, which is the Corinne atelier the most expensive restaurant or one of them Definitely in San Francisco but in the world. Yeah She's she bought into this she must not be making it even to despite her ridiculously high prices that are Restaurant she must be losing her ass do this well I mean I meet a reputation ruiner He's now cooking tumors. Serve cultivated chicken at one of his restaurants I mean, so why should people want this? What is wrong with the way that meats produced today? Oh! Now this isn't an in-depth question It depends on who you ask The traditional meat industry says the status quo is efficient but meat production has a big environmental footprint I talked to Bruce Friedrich who heads the nonprofit Good Food Institute

20:03 He tracks investments in protein alternatives and says there are more than 150 companies working to bring cultivated meat and seafood to market. So she interviewed a guy who has investments in alternative food for some free-standing advice which would not be influenced by anything these people are so stupid. Some are working on beef He says global demand for meat is expected to double by 2050. Cultivated meat gives consumers everything that they like about me, but it requires a fraction of the land requires significantly less water and now it remains to be seen whether cultivated meat production can lower... That guy's got to get with the program he is missing the boat instead of it's no longer about climate change buddy

20:47 It's no longer about that. It's about not killing animals, not slaughtering animals in fact the title which was disappointing they didn't use the term the title of the NPR report was No Kill Meat. clear is that now that cultivated meat is approved for sale, it is no longer science fiction. People will get a chance to taste it. All right? That is NPR's Alison Aubrey Thank you so much! Thank you Great to be here. Great to be here thank you great to be here So while and then I'll shut up...so while everyone was distracted by No Kill Meat and Brewing Meat Massive meat I have a question If you're vegan

21:34 How do you take this philosophically? I think it's okay because you're not killing the animal. What if you... Yeah! ...I don't think that's point of veganism. Yeah, but maybe we can grab the vegans as well. What about vegetarian if your... Okay let's forget the vegans let's go with vegetarians. Vegetarians don't eat meat because it has anything to do with killing animals than I know of. Yes yeah They like vegetables. Right, but the vegetarian is really about the killing of animals I mean... I don't know... The veganist isn't it? No! I think that.... I don't know.. I love meat and I'm not so crazy about chicken because you know unless i get one from local from someone's backyard. Chicken is terrible product It IS a terrible product So most fish are terrible these days too We eat beef

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Ukraine Recovery Conference and Reconstruction Contracts

World leaders gathered in London for the Ukraine Recovery Conference to discuss the estimated $400 billion to $1 trillion cost of rebuilding the nation. Financial institutions including BlackRock and JP Morgan are slated to manage a recovery bank to coordinate private sector investment. The transition from the "Ukraine Reform Conference" to "Recovery" signifies a shift toward divvying up agricultural and infrastructure contracts.

ukraine recovery conference· antony blinken· ursula von der leyen· blackrock· jp morgan

22:31 But no, we have no brewing beef. It'll be even a better slogan, brewing beef! So get on it people let's start to brew some beef so anyway all of this was distraction hahaha fantastic submarine brewing meat meanwhile the elites of the world including our leaders were literally dividing up the spoils of war in Ukraine And I looked into this. They had a meeting already about how they're gonna rebuild who's gonna get what contract and oh yeah, it's not even over Oh no But this thing has been going on for six years I'll explain first now This is the report that got me interested TRT. This is the Turkish radio and television report

23:14 Billions of dollars have already been pledged to supply and train Ukraine's military. But attention is now turning to Ukraine's reconstruction. The British are hosting a Ukraine recovery conference in London this week, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived on Tuesday over 60 countries will be represented President Biden said from the outset of Russia's aggression against Ukraine that we would stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes. And both of our countries are deeply committed to that, and will continue to deliver on that commitment including through a new robust US assistance package I'll be able to announce tomorrow. On Tuesday, The EU Commission announced another $54 billion for the next four years This includes both loans and grants

24:02 The preserve will provide first of all perspective for our partners in Ukraine, predictability. and it should also incentivise other donors to step up too. The World Bank says Ukraine will need 400 billion to rebuild, the same as Germany after WWII a huge task that will need efficient coordination and private sector investment And that will require reassurance about Kiev's commitment to reform and fight corruption So he kind of gave it away there. This used to be called the Ukraine Reform Conference, which started in 2017 that was the first one is held in the UK and they changed that last year into the Ukraine

24:51 Recovery Conference, you could keep the same acronym the same logos. They did just replace the word reform with recovery and I looked at the program and I watched... The videos are not makes no sense to listen to them they are talking about import-export taxes, taxation on agriculture companies. The soil contracts they're dividing this entire country up amongst themselves with our money! Oh yeah no this is we have a grants and loans and all this stuff oh yes it's gonna be... And it's all about building back better I kid you not

25:33 restoring livelihoods. They don't care about Ukrainian people, how many... we need to get more workers back there to exploit the soil if this is big agriculture in a massive way and then we've got Blackrock and JP Morgan they will be handling the recovery bank well what could possibly go be wrong with that? This is unbelievable No, it's totally believable. But no one was really reporting on this there's not a lot of US news about this. Not even UK news and everyone was there Queen Ursula

26:12 Blinken, even Prince Charles! A King's welcome for Ukraine's Prime Minister Denys Shymal as world leaders and foreign ministers line up behind. Yes we're in this together says the head of the EU Commission Ursula von der Leyen. We're in this together... What is this bullcrap? We are in this together. You've taken our money giving it to contractors The contractor Speech it's crazy. It's every single big agriculture company you can think of all the banks They are dividing everything I think at this point Let's just keep the war going until we've got all the agreements signed You know what? I mean, it's like just give me what do you think they're doing why didn't I didn't realize that they were just I mean now I Do I mean we're seeing that they're fighting over 50 meters of turf Oh

27:02 Boy, they had no agreement on that yet. No! That's unimportant they don't care about that it's about all the big agricultural land and the financing sector and I guess they'll have a tax-free haven for tech goodbye Ireland We're in this together says the head of the EU Commission Ursula von der Leyen together to work out how much and exactly who is paying for the cost of repair and reconstruction for nations still at war Before they arrived, they were sent a clear pitch from Ukraine's president in his nightly address. A rebuilt Ukraine, a transformed Ukraine, a strengthened Ukraine is a security carrier and a security guarantor. It is protection against any form of Russian terror and protection against any repetition of Russian aggression. The devastation from 483 days of conflict is clear across the country

27:51 The World Bank says Ukraine's reparation effort could cost around $400 billion over the next decade. But that estimate was before the counter-offensive and the sudden destruction of the Kharkiv Dam, and with Russia still targeting infrastructure analysts say the final bill could be over a trillion dollars Why did they blow up the dam? So we can pay people to go and rebuild it! Of course, this is the rubble-eye strategy. The jackals are out time to build build build back better For the US and UK It was a joint message for countries to dig deep Dig Deep!

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Ukraine Digital Transformation and Social Media AstroTurfing

The reconstruction plan for Ukraine includes a heavy focus on digital transformation and energy sector revitalization. Meanwhile, social media platforms like Twitter show evidence of AstroTurfing, where identical boilerplate messages from "citizens" of various countries claim that arming Ukraine is the best use of taxpayer money.

digital transformation· ukraine· astroturfing· twitter· nato

28:32 demands not only providing for its security, but also for its economy, its democracy and its full integration into Europe. Europe. It played that music? Yeah, oh it's a guy an organ grinder with a monkey on his shoulder outside of the conference. Oh god! Yeah and if you look at all these things all it's about tax tax tax... You know of course we want to place where we can put our cheap workers, the ones we haven't replaced with AI customer help customer service people I guess

29:33 And we want no tax. We want to be able to put our banking there so that there's a tax on income taxes go in there and you know, I think they did it what they did is identified Ukraine by the way people have to always realize Ukraine is not a hole-in-the-wall It's huge country was bigger than the entire country of France and German combined. I think yeah as big its huge Its massive and it's largely agricultural and if they had to look at him go Because when I was in Slovenia, I kind of noticed the same thing in the wine growing area. It's like these guys are ripe to be plucked because they're old fashioned. They do things on small scales and lots of them just this hell with it get rid of everything they're doing and we'll just move our big ag in and we can feed the world from Ukraine. That that's what Ukraine was doing

30:30 investment opportunities and de-risking mechanisms to mobilize private finance in Ukraine. This will not go over in a country that's wrought with war, I will point out this session we'll review approaches to attract private capital at scale into priority projects and sectors of Ukraine's economy it will showcase investment opportunities in Ukraine now and in the future Because they know the future. And the availability of support from the government of Ukraine and international partners to de-risk projects in the form of concessional finance or finance... What does that mean, concessional? I think that means in that case... I don't know we have to look it up. Concessional let me see definition of concessional. I think where you give up equity is...

31:24 something such as a point previously claimed that is later conceded. I don't know, it's like money that the tax... It was some sort of rip-off. Clearly a rip off! A different kind of rip off than we're unfamiliar with. Obviously We're not gonna get any of that Where was now? Your point by the way and your point about goodbye Ireland Yeah Not only that But no, I know offensive the Irish we have a lot of Irish listeners. They're sharp but the Ukraine people there they've always been in the high tech that's perfect for to move tech tax-free tech into Ukraine and then exploit their cheap coders Well here it is Tech for Transformation Digital Excellence and Strengthening Partnerships this session

32:15 will showcase Ukraine's digital transformation and vision for the future, which they already know. The resilience of the Ukrainian tech sector and the opportunities for international partnerships with this growing sector there that you're absolutely right how about this one? Power of transformation building back better in the energy sector Building back resilient, efficient decentralized and clean energy system will be crucial to Ukraine's economic revitalization and long-term growth. The government of Ukraine will present the recently adopted Energy to 2050 strategy. Panelists will discuss how best mobilize international support that is our tax money and enable private investment grift to support Ukraine's long term vision for recovery and transformation

33:01 Effers are divvying it all up right under our noses. Right under our noses! It's been going on since 2017. Well, these things take time. Well they do and they're patient but they're all there. All of them are there including the big bankers, all the prime ministers, all that foreign ministers everybody's there and I love this if you go to Twitter or any social media site. But let's just take Twitter, I'll do this live and you type in as a citizen arming Ukraine those are the words you need to type in. I will read the first hits I get here As a German citizen I want to say that arming Ukraine is single best use of taxpayer money for decades my only criticism is that the West aren't sending enough fast enough

33:51 Next one. As a citizen of Ukraine, I want to say that arming Ukraine is the single best use of taxpayer money for decades My only criticism is that the West aren't sending enough fast enough Next one as a Belgian citizen I want to say that are arming Ukraine is the single best use of taxpayer money for decades my only criticisms The West aren't sending enough fast enough Hmm...as a Czech citizen? I wanted I mean it goes on and on and on As a French citizen, same thing. It's all AstroTurf. Boilerplate? Boilerplate! All AstroTurf... ...all with Ukraine flags and blue and yellow hearts in the profile. As a European citizen I want to say that arming Ukraine is the single best use of taxpayer money for decades! Wow. Yeah These guys are very good they need AI And some of these have blue checks

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Oryx Open-Source Intelligence Project Shutdown

The open-source intelligence project Oryx, known for tracking military equipment losses in the Ukraine conflict, announced it will cease operations on October 1st. The founder cited personal burnout and the lack of financial compensation for the all-consuming project. The timing of the shutdown raises questions about the future of independent data verification in the region.

oryx· open-source intelligence· bellingcat· ukraine war· military equipment

34:45 So, so much for your system. Elon or Elon? And then this odd and interesting thing that happened... We remember Oryx the general former General McChrystal was boasting about the Dutch-Belgian open source crowdsourcing that we... You know maybe I should just play it. How do I spell McChrystal? How come I can't find... how do we spell McChrystal? M-C-H. There's a H in there. MCH, MCH2. No no it was MCCH. Try that. Maybe it wasn't even McChrystal

35:42 MCCH, no. I haven't studied it either. Well you're gonna have to take my word for it so he was saying that all about the war in Ukraine maybe if I do Stanley... Stanley? I don't know where this reporter is. Oh Stanley! And he was saying, you know he was so proud of this open source reporting. It was kind of like a new Bellingcat and it was called Oryx and we went looking for the website and it's literally like a horrible domain name that you can't remember. Well they also have... Right! Yeah, so they also have a Twitter account which I immediately followed They hadn't posted much on their Twitter account since for about couple years but now they reactivated it and here is the post Dear All

36:31 I would hereby like to inform you that I will be ending Oryx on October 1st. I originally started Oryx blog 10 years ago to cure my boredom, little did i know oryx would escalate into the all-consuming project it is today! All of us work on the articles and lists in our free time It's not our job we don't get paid though I hoped our work would one day lead to a job no such thing occurred. Oryx just doesn't make me happy anymore and continuing with it prevents me from finding a happier place in life So I can see where an open source project will end, but why don't you end it now? Why October? Why October 1st?" Wow. Great. Yes. Yeah. Just walk. Walk! Something may be happening in October maybe that's where it all ends or something happens and they clearly didn't get a renewal or someone reneged

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Pentagon Accounting Errors and War Spoils

The Pentagon recently discovered a $6.2 billion accounting error regarding military aid sent to Ukraine. This surplus allows the Biden administration to continue funding efforts without immediate Congressional approval for new packages. The discovery coincided with Secretary of State Antony Blinken's visit to London to pledge further assistance.

pentagon· accounting error· department of defense· blinken· military aid

37:29 Someone didn't pay him. That's what they're saying, we get no money for this and the contracts over in October I think that's what it is Contracts over? Yeah, they didn't renew Especially when you hear that the Pentagon again discovered another one of those nasty accounting errors Oh yeah! They just keep...that's why they better Audit the Pentagon. Yeah, 6.2 billion. They can't even keep track of another six billion! It's amazing I'm so happy for Ukraine comes right in time now that Blinken just said oh we got another bill hanging around he just is big swinging dick over there and in London hey I got some money let me throw another bill out there no problem

38:18 So, that's what I mean by distraction of the week when we're all looking at submarines and we're all looking at lab-grown chicken meat. Brewed, brewed chicken! The elites are literally dividing up the spoils of war already they know it they know the future. Yeah, in our dime yeah yeah yeah And i have more about that later but you seem to have a lot of interesting topics too so I want you to jump in give us some goods It's going with the flow. Yeah, baby you know that's why I'm handing over the flow to you So i'm going with...I got a bunch of Biden clips again Sorry about that. I usually don't do two in a row and some screwball TikTok clips Oh life just gets better But I do have kind of a three-parter on digital currency they brought an expert on oh On uh and I think there's NTD

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IMF Global CBDC Interoperability Platform

The International Monetary Fund is developing a global platform to ensure interoperability between different national Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs). IMF Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva emphasized that systems must connect to make transactions more efficient. Experts clarify that the IMF is not launching its own currency but rather a trading platform to manage cross-border risks.

imf· cbdc· digital currency· kristalina georgieva· federal reserve

39:17 And I thought it would be worth listening to these three clips because they're all, they're educational. They are not exciting but they bring us at least... Because you keep bringing it up! I do yes, I do keep bringing it up. So I thought we'd at least get some that knew what they were talking about. Oh unlike me! So thanks. No, there's either you pretty much on the same wavelength but he's this guy is a little different. But let's start with the intro which is just a short intro to the other two clips The International Monetary Fund is working on a platform for central bank digital currencies The managing director argues that the digital currencies shouldn't be fragmented by nation

39:59 What are the concerns with the IMF pushing for digital currency? NTD Business' Don Ma speaks to an expert in this field. Now before you move into your clips... Interestingly enough, I got the 36 second clip from the IMF director. She was not arguing she was stating a fact and i'll play that now just for um for color if we are to be successful cbdc's could not be fragmented national propositions To have transactions more efficient and fairer We need systems that connect

40:37 countries. In other words, we need interoperability and for this reason at the IMF we are working hard on the concept of a global CBDC platform to trade and manage risks and my colleague Tobias Adrian will talk more about it later. Yeah so it's interoperability of the central bank digital currencies that's what the IMF is talking about. My comment is this That's what I think of that. I love it, I love that you got some experts in on this! Okay so let's talk about this and the stuff we're trying to do with this guy they bring in The guy may not be any good but he seems like...he sounds like has a handle on it And here with me is Thomas Hogan Senior Research Faculty at the American Institute for Economic Research

41:34 So, the International Monetary Fund wants a platform for central bank digital currencies. Now before we get into the pros and cons I just want you to explain to me what does it mean exactly do have a global CBDC platform? Yeah that's right it's good question because this has been kind of misreported in some other articles that I've seen online because of the lack of clarity about what we mean by platform so sometimes when we talk about central bank digital currency We mean the platform is the currency itself. Like, for example if the U.S were to introduce a CBDC we might call that the platform or in Europe if they're doing one maybe that CBDC is the platform but that's not really what we mean here.

42:18 a place where people could trade different currencies, different CBDCs. So for example I think we can make a distinction if i'm an American traveling in Europe and there are some stores that maybe accept US dollars maybe I go into a store and say hey do you accept dollars or euros? That's a question of the currency itself not a question of the platform If they say they accept only euros, then I have to say okay well do you take a Visa card or can I transfer from my debit card where my bank is going to switch from dollars into euros? Or do I personally need to go to a bank and trade physical dollars for physical euros. That question of how to get from one currency into the other is really what they're talking about for the platform here. The IMF itself is not going to launch central bank digital currency just help coordinate trade of different types of currencies

43:06 Yeah, I think...I agree with what he's saying. That's why- I didn't think IMF was- it actually was the clip itself had the title IMF says global currency! Which is like no that's not what she said yeah let trading platform okay and that makes sense just to clarify you know as a kind of clarified okay so let's go to part three will be done So what concerns comes with this if there is any? I am not concerned about the platform itself. Like I said, I don't think the IMF is really going to have a lot of control over that and so they probably won't have much influence other than promoting CBDCs and that's really the thing that I'm a little bit more concerned about is that you know the IMF is trying to encourage countries do use CBDCs in the United States or bigger country we might not worry about the government misusing that. We should worry a little bit in the United States

44:02 But much more of a concern in China where the government is using it to monitor all their citizens. So for a lot of the countries that are trying to get better capabilities, The IMF is going to potentially be equipping them with ways to monitor their citizens and control their citizens And so I'm a little bit worried about that. So you said in the US we should still be a little bit worried about CBDC Can you expand on that? Yeah, so the United States is considering doing some kind of central bank digital currency. We haven't really committed to anything that the U.S. Federal Reserve and the Central Bank of the United States are studying how they might implement a central bank digital currency but so far they're not planning on doing one that would be directly offered to US citizens and so that's a really important distinction that almost all countries have plans

44:52 have individual citizens use it just like they use regular currency. But in the United States, the Federal Reserve has said they actually don't think that they have the ability legally to do that all day could legally do right now as far as their currently saying is offered to banks which would then offer some kind of digital currency to this instance which is essentially what they do now you know the Fed already has a digital system for coordinating bank payments and having banks deposit money at the Fed making payments with the Fed. And so, having a central bank digital currency that's only offered to the banking system really wouldn't be much different than we have now but there is some possibility that they might change their policy or that Congress might authorize them to offer a central bank digital currency directly to the public and if that happens then that'll be a lot different and I think will need to worry about it a little bit more

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Federal Reserve FedNow Launch and Financial Surveillance

The Federal Reserve is set to launch FedNow, an instant payment clearinghouse that will charge four cents per transaction. While marketed as a way to speed up government disbursements like stimulus checks, critics view it as a precursor to a retail CBDC. Simultaneously, BlackRock has filed for a Bitcoin ETF, signaling a shift in how major financial institutions interact with digital assets.

fednow· federal reserve· instant payments· blackrock· bitcoin etf

45:41 I agree. I agree that the Federal Reserve doesn't have that, can't do that legally. What they are... Congress he mentions in there Well, well, Congress could change that They have the right to... Yeah, but Congress hates us! What the Fed is launching next month is FedNow And that's there, so they will be the direct clearing house. It will go initially through banks so you'll get your FedNow account from your bank but I can pay you directly and it will go through the FedNow network and the transaction cost would be four cents per transaction no matter what size it is which is kind of going to screw up other systems

46:26 And we'll see, we'll see where that goes. This is interesting in the backdrop of the SEC basically clearing out all shit coins all these you know what they call unregistered securities which I agree with they are and then all of a sudden BlackRock last week or this past week registering for a Bitcoin ETF and this magical exchange appears backed by the Deutsche Bank and other Wall Street banks called EDX, and they're going to be in exchange. So that any of Bitcoin you know spike like 10% on all this news I don't know there's something it feels like there's something going on especially when black rock enters it we'll see

47:13 I don't know. Bad actors! I don't think BlackRock's a good actor for sure, for sure. But you don't need it to be a central bank digital currency if you're doing the transfer and the Fed now their own material says this is handy because if we have another COVID like event then you don't have to wait for those pesky checks will just put it right into your account so it's the same thing And now that there's no ceiling on the debt, we're primed. We need another crisis. Most people out there didn't get pesky checks they got it straight into their account. I'm just telling you what they say. They're saying this is... That's their marketing is if we ever need to send out checks again then you won't have to do that at all you just go straight into your FedNow account through your bank

48:13 I thought a lot of those checks went, well...I thought a lot of the money went through checks. I don't know anyone who got a check. Jay got it straight into her account. Oh she did? Christina got one in Europe mind you that was interesting. Well she's in Europe and but uh the stepdaughters got it they didn't they didn't uh oh I don't know anyone who got a check out here some trolls are saying they got checks some say they got two no I didn't get no check Alright, do Biden because then I want to play some counter-programming to Biden. Here's Biden in California this was like a couple days ago

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Joe Biden Climate Claims and Diplomatic Friction with China

During a visit to California, President Joe Biden referred to climate change as the "existential threat to humanity" and mistakenly cited a 2020 deadline for conservation goals. At a separate fundraising event, Biden referred to Chinese President Xi Jinping as a "dictator," prompting an immediate rebuke from Beijing, which labeled the comments absurd and irresponsible.

joe biden· climate change· xi jinping· dictator· diplomacy

48:51 You know, I've toured many sites across the country that clearly show climate change is a genuine exi- is THE existential threat to humanity. The existential threat to humanity And maybe most important... ...I'm committed that by 2020 we will have conserved 30% of all the lands and waters in the United States that has jurisdiction over and simultaneously reduce emissions from blunt climate impact Did he say 2020? Yeah. This poor guy, 2020 we're going to have these changes going back in time. Okay? Great love it and I got Biden misspelled here on this clip just by there's the biting ramble that has a bunch of different things in it and the cheer for muzzle up for each year from Muslim athletes like Kareem algebra algebra

49:44 I know him and I did mispronounce his name. Congressman Omar, where are you? There you go God love ya. Another Muslim! I'm not supposed to get in trouble for saying this but you look beautiful tonight. Oh man! Congresswoman Tlaib, where's the congressman? There you are, okay. So do you! I don't know why he wanted the job man... I appoint all those federal judges but ya know thank you for serving. I'm not kidding You wanna come and make a speech? Hush up boy! Whoa! Who'd he say that to?!

50:25 Some black guy. A black guy? No, he did not! He did not! Wow! Hush up boy! Wow! Was this one of these things where he was talking and called she a dictator?! Yeah, I don't have that clip. I wish well here's I have the it's quick tonight a new flashpoint between the US and China after President Biden called China's president Xi a dictator at a fundraising event China blasting the comments as absurd and irresponsible Yeah call him a dictator Mmm not good. Not good That's what I got here is I don't know if this is the same as the California clip but his bite in San Francisco

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

White House AI Regulation and Tech Leadership

President Biden met with tech executives in San Francisco to discuss the risks and opportunities of Artificial Intelligence. The administration is focused on safeguarding privacy and addressing bias in AI systems. Sam Altman of OpenAI is noted as a rising figure in the tech industry, drawing comparisons to past personalities like Steve Jobs and Bill Gates.

artificial intelligence· sam altman· silicon valley· regulation· tech history

51:09 President Biden landed in Silicon Valley yesterday and announced a $600 million national plan for climate issues. Today, He met with tech executives and people in the industry to discuss artificial intelligence, including how to seize its opportunity and manage its risks. My administration is committed it's committed to safeguarding America's rights and safety from protecting privacy to addressing bias and disinformation, to making sure AI systems are safe before they are released. On Tuesday President Biden was in San Francisco for his 2024 presidential campaign He's also visiting several locations in the North Bay including the cities of Kent Field and Larkspur

51:59 A White House official said Biden's summit include experts known for being outspoken on the impact of AI on jobs, children bias and prejudice and the risks posed by AI if it isn't properly regulated. And added that quote US government agencies have ramped up their authorities to protect Americans from the risk posed by AI including fraud and discrimination As I've said before, we'll see more technological change in the next 10 years than we've seen in the last 50 years and maybe even beyond that. According to the president's schedule Biden has a campaign reception on Tuesday evening. Yeah, I find this very interesting this rhetoric about AI and the government agencies are ramping up to protect Silicon Valley no doubt

52:52 But also I think this Altman character, Sam Altman. I think he's being positioned to be the new Elon Musk He's got a lot of other things going he's got like fusion energy projects and... ...He's doing all these other things you watch this guy is gonna be the new tech Hero as Elon because have the personality for it. I was just saved flat-out and Elon Musk does Yeah, no Altman's okay? Well it may fail but I think they're gonna try this yeah, and you know and This is like Zuckerberg. He doesn't have personality for anything other than what he's doing hmm so

53:38 The number of people in tech over the years, I'm watching it from the get-go. I will say there's been so few and when they crop up, accolades go their way everything goes their way. I can go back to the days of people like Chuck Peddle. Who was Chuck Peddle? Chuck Peddles designed a 6502 chip, the original chip used in the Apple II computer and he was a helluva personality You had Steve Jobs to some extent. Rosniak has a personality Bill Gates, Bill Gates had a personality whether you like it or not. Bill Gates does have a personality and Bulmer has a personality even though nobody liked his personality. Developers loved him! And Philippe Kahn was a super-personality. Yeah I remember Philippe Kahn

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

RFK Jr. Presidential Campaign and Anti-War Platform

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is centering his presidential campaign on a peace platform, arguing that perpetual foreign wars lead to domestic division. Despite being labeled an "anti-vaxxer" by mainstream media, Kennedy is utilizing podcasts, including a high-profile appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience, to reach voters. He advocates for moving past the "us versus them" tribalism currently affecting American politics.

rfk jr· joe rogan· anti-war· presidential campaign· tribalism

54:33 Kind of a couple of empires out of nothing. He was in the public eye, but these guys could speak. They could do public speaking and they could do all these things they weren't just you know reticent no I don't want to talk Yeah well we'll see Sam Altman talks he goes on all the podcasts and And he went did his thing before Congress it was interesting It was full of crap But I know he's just All i'm seeing is a lot of businesses that have government involvement and like okay Just keep your eye on them So RFK Jr did a speech in New Hampshire And I want to play a couple of clips from it because he's taking a totally different approach to running for president. Of course, anyone who is blocked by the mainstream is always interesting to us after the whole Rogan challenge... Let me see what was the headline that I had?

55:32 Los Angeles Times. Robert F Kennedy and the lies of the anti-vaxxers! You know, so that's kind of how they're positioning RFKG. They're making a huge mistake If he could get this, you know what Trump did right is because of all the stuff he did they gave him all this attention. And I don't think the mainstream will do that for RFK but RFK has already said junior, he's already said no-no this election will be won on podcasts which yeah... I'm of the opinion that in 2016 even though there are podcasts and then I don't think the media scene was that different

56:11 I kind of agree with him. Because after Trump and then the few years of Biden, people are just looking askance at it A lot more than they did in 2016. In 2016, they did do it a little bit but not like this that the people just don't believe these yes yeah media's in a downward spiral Yeah and with almost no ratings I mean no one is watching it so I think if true then his breakthrough was probably Rogan although that also brings up all these you know he's incredible He's an anti-vaxxer even his family hates him! Oh pay attention

56:50 So he does what I think is a pretty important speech and for couple of reasons. One, his voice is much better. We are determined years ago when he starts talking a lot then his affliction gets better And he's also invoking John F. Kennedy, and a lot! The days almost like the... not the Camelot part but the peace part. Look at it in the show notes about 45 minutes and he does this entire spiel about the wages of war. He says what's really happening is if you have war outside your home all the time

57:34 then that is going to bring war inside your home and literally inside your home. And that was pretty... That's interesting, I want to make a quick comment here on this Generally speaking, except during these moments of huge amounts of propaganda. The American public is anti-war and that's how Obama got elected. The Iraqi war was going on and Obama ran in 20 whatever 2008 I guess. on a peace platform. You can take it to the bank! If he was gonna get us out of the Iraqi war, or if he was gonna get us out of Guantanamo Bay... He's going to do this and that as a total peace platform and Democrats really are the peaceniks generally speaking It is only recently that we've had this kind of crossover And they still have the peacenik bug The fact is that the Democrats are the biggest warmongers I've ever seen

58:37 late is kind of a surprise and I think Kennedy can bring him back to the normalcy. Well there's not going to be any debates So there'll be no exposure. Who knows how corrupt the actual voting systems are? There's a lot of disbelief in those across the board, I mean if you look at any poll right or left... And Gavin Newsom is also the wild card here. Oh and we'll leave him there but this Kennedy cat he's got a rap that is... If people hear him hey man! You know he's from like the Kennedy Cat era man you know what I'm saying bro

59:16 Dig it! I dig, man. I dig the Kennedy cat." So he... so the whole setup is this wages of war and he talks about you know if your if your warring with you know if you think everyone's evil and you're gonna have that insight? You're gonna bring that home right into your actual very home you will have this kind of division. That's all a play clip that kinda was the end of that spiel. And the question now is are we willing to do anything like today or are we going to remain stuck and a self-righteous story in which America is categorically good, and our opponents are irredeemably evil. If we remain stuck there so will every other nation It's not only America that has fallen into this simplistic good guy bad guy thinking

1:00:03 That's the example we've set for everybody in the world. No wonder it has been replicated everywhere between Israel and Iran, between India and Pakistan Between Shia and Sunni, between Jew and Arab, between Hindu and Muslim left and right, between pro-life and pro-choice, between facts and anti-facts This tribalistic us versus them thinking is tearing us apart A rousing round of applause! I think it was at a school, university. So people like whatever I heard there is like people are saying, yeah wait a minute that's just saying some good there so now he invokes and gives us a bit of a history lesson about his uncle talked more about his uncle John F Kennedy than his dad Robert F Kennedy and about JFK being an anti-war president

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

JFK Legacy and the Military Industrial Complex

RFK Jr. invokes the legacy of his uncle, John F. Kennedy, describing him as an anti-war president who resisted military hawks during the Cold War. He cites National Security Action Memorandum 263, which intended to withdraw U.S. personnel from Vietnam, as a turning point that was reversed following JFK's assassination. The campaign emphasizes President Eisenhower's warning about the rising power of the military-industrial complex.

jfk· vietnam war· eisenhower· military industrial complex· national security

1:01:00 And it's tearing apart our country and it's tearing apart the world. So, these are the wages of war but when we take the first step toward peace We will become once again a true world leader A moral leader, a moral authority And our example, it doesn't take much. It's just the first step and people will start looking at America differently the way they did when my uncle was president My uncle... I pointed this out In my announcement speech, my uncle was so determined he told one of his best friends, Brent Bradley said to him What do you want as your epithet on your gravestone? And he said He kept the peace. And Bradley asked him to explain that and he said The primary job of an American president is to keep the country out of war That's what he said Not happened recently

1:02:02 During his time in the White House, he was surrounded by military hawks and his intelligence apparatus, his military brass who were constantly exhorting him to go to war in Laos, Berlin, Cuba and Vietnam. And he never sent a single combat troop abroad during his term in office He ultimately wanted him to send 250,000 combat troops to Vietnam. He ended up sending 16,000 advisors who were not under the rules of engagement allowed to participate in combat. That's fewer people, fewer men and he sent James Meredith one black man into Ole Miss at the University of Mississippi in Jackson. Okay now I'd like to say that

1:02:49 Advisors, we know what that is. That's bullcrap! Military advisors are there saying all right now you point it there okay and you pull the trigger here so JFK got duped but I guess he was an anti-war president And i'll give Trump that too Trump didn't get us into war He was going to pull us out Didn't? But He at least, you know he went and talked to Kim Jong-un. He went and talked to Putin! Crazy! He's insane! He must be in cahoots with him. And now RFK... Putin? Putin! Now RFK gives us a history in a timeline that is important to remember it's probably the reason why Ron Paul says, you know that's when when we lost the country was with the killing of JFK

1:03:40 And this is, this goes back to one of our favorite clips. He won't he'll talk about the clip but also about an important presidential order. A month before he died in October 1963, he heard that a Green Beret had died in Vietnam and asked one of his aides to give him a total casualty list And the aid came back and the casualty list had 75 Americans on it who had died in Vietnam. And he said, that's too much we're not going to have a single more American died That day he signed national security order 263 that ordered every US service person home from Vietnam with the first thousand leaving the next month beginning in November

1:04:29 And that, he died a month later. A week after his death that order was remanded and President Johnson ended up sending 250 thousand troops by President Johnson. President Johnson ended up sending 250 thousand troops Ultimately 560 thousand 56 thousand never came home including my cousin George Skakelu who died in the Tet Offensive and we killed 1 million Vietnamese And, you know we've then gone off on this path with a military industrial complex.

1:05:08 which President Eisenhower warned about a week before, or three days before my uncle took office in the best speech that he ever gave and one of the most important in history where he warned America that if we did not take great pains to avoid it, the emerging military industrial complex would devour our democracy. It would destroy American values from within and my uncle knew that. He knew that speech and spent 3 years, his thousand days in office fighting against the rise of the military industrial complex. After his death, we went down that path that Eisenhower predicted and that's where we are today and it is time now to reverse that. It is time. Somebody likes this! So I'm listening...I am listening to this guy and he goes into all of these stuff

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

NATO Expansion and the 2022 Ukraine Peace Talks

RFK Jr. claims the conflict in Ukraine could have been avoided, citing broken promises regarding NATO expansion. He references reports that a peace agreement was nearly reached in the spring of 2022 before being scuttled by Western intervention, specifically naming former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson as a key figure in halting the negotiations.

nato· boris johnson· putin· ukraine· peace agreement

1:06:00 It's like the military-industrial complex, and it's like listening to 15 years of no agenda clips. It really is! Rolled into one. Yeah rolled into one and pretty concise and he does it well and he talks about how we promised and he says Baker promised, we all promise not 1 inch towards the east with NATO and he says no we didn't do 1 inch we did a thousand miles and we've completely surrounded Russia And he talks about another one of his uncle's speeches where he said, you know hey we didn't win World War II the Russians did. The Russians defeated the Germans or weakened them enough so that we could go into Berlin which is true! Which is historical fact

1:06:44 And then he rolls out, and it's funny because his head is so in those days that instead of Boris Johnson he says Boris Yeltsin. He doesn't correct himself but he calls out something else we knew! We now have such a distorted and desperate view of the other side that we won't even speak to them To see conflict as inevitable has become the cornerstone of US foreign policy Two or three decades ago, it was the clash of civilization between Islam and the West. Today those legions of think tanks that are funded by defense industry exhort us to prepare for the inevitable war with China. The war is inevitable only if we make it inevitable. The war in Ukraine could have been avoided even as late now –we now know–as spring 2022

1:07:46 when US officials sent Boris Yeltsin to Kiev to scuttle peace talks between Ukraine and Russia, a peace agreement they had already signed. And not only that, Russia had already begun removing its troops from the Kiev area we now know this! The war was... This war was not inevitable it was the creation of a relentless mentality of foreign domination There you go she said Yeltsin but he meant Boris Johnson because that's true Boris Johnson went there to break it up. Yes, in fact Putin brought that document out recently and flashed it into front of the camera showed the initials and said this was a peace agreement and it was never... The Russians were implementing it but then it turns out that we goaded the Ukrainians and ah forget that!

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Bioweapons Arms Race and Fort Detrick History

A discussion on the history of biological weapons highlights President Nixon's 1969 decision to unilaterally end the U.S. bioweapons program. However, the passage of the Patriot Act in 2001 is cited as the catalyst for a renewed arms race. Concerns are raised regarding gain-of-function research and the collection of ethnic-specific DNA for potential bioweapon development.

bioweapons· fort detrick· richard nixon· patriot act· gain of function

1:08:36 So, and so his strategy he has I don't think... By the way. Yeah. I'm sorry but by the way that is scandalous that the mainstream does not harp on that because they're all part of it this is where we were way down that path. Scandalous! It's scandalous! Scandalous I tell you um And you know, so his strategy... he doesn't seem to have a ground game. He doesn't—if you go to the RFK or Kennedy24.com website there's no bumper stickers, there's no yard signs and some t-shirts No agenda shop is more than his shop So I guess his strategy is podcasts which, you know it may work! He's going on a lot of them. He's going everywhere we could probably get him Wanna have RFK Jr.? We'll grill em'

1:09:27 Well, Grillam. You know with the defense industries and big pharma combined against him it's very not to mention the intelligence community which doesn't have to do anything in this case he hasn't got a prayer they just get hounding with them with their But the overriding propaganda is an anti-vax nutball that shouldn't be taken seriously. And the fact that in the public will see that he's not taken seriously by the mainstream media, which is this third element of this trifecta of evildoers

1:10:10 He does he's these good the fact that he's got 25% now in terms of people to say they might want To vote for him is a miracle. I think this is if it goes higher net, I'm gonna be stunned He says yes That's according to one source, yeah. 25 percent of the Democrats are for the Democrats. Okay well I'm hearing a lot of Trumpers going hey yeah we need Trump and Kennedy ticket that'll do it! I'm like dream on! I have to say this anti-war message might connect if enough people are, you know... I mean you're right. There's still 30% of the world at least United States for sure who are walking around with masks on in the car they're so mind controlled but when you go and anti war... I was watching some local TV thing and they had

1:11:03 They were interviewing a couple that owned a restaurant and so no one's wearing the mask except the restaurant owners. And they're a couple! It's like they're married and they're wearing masks sitting next to each other I know, he did have an appearance on Newsmax with Greta Van Susteren my how the mighty have fallen And this is just, this is almost a carnival to watch. This is about bioweapons! But what I worry about is WMD like a virus? Like a gain of function something do you worry about that? Greta you ignorant slut. Because I see that as sort of the next big fight because those viruses don't see any borders and they're relatively cheap

1:11:48 to do this gain of function. I mean, it's just so that's what I worry about more than the big hardware. Yeah you're exactly right and we know that the Chinese are developing ethnic bioweapons, bioweapons that are designed to attack people of certain racial types and they were doing the same thing. We've been collecting Chinese DNA We've been collecting Russian DNA specifically for that. This arms race is a catastrophe, you know? In 1969 we had developed by then nuclear equivalency with bioweapons so we could eliminate the same numbers of people with bio weapons at I think 29 cents a death they calculated the Defense Department was and CIA calculated it that time

1:12:39 And President Nixon did the most extraordinary thing. He went to Fort Detrick and he said, we are unilaterally ending the bioweapons arms race. We are giving up all of our bio weapons. We're gonna destroy them. We're gonna disable the capacity at Fort Detrick and we're not gonna make them anymore. Three years later almost all the nations on the earth signed a charter stopping bioweapons production. The problem was The CIA continued to do secret bioweapons production in our country. The Russians found out about that and rejigged their program, and then after 2001 we passed the Patriot Act which reopened the arms race which basically cancelled out

1:13:23 Nixon's 1979 agreement treaty and launched a new bioweapons arms race, and everybody else in the world is doing it. And the impacts as you point out Greta are horrific. Yeah! And there we are with COVID whether it was Wuhan lab for Dietrich and wherever it came from everyone's pointing their finger at somebody else. For Dietrich that's where they do it And of course we know now that there were quite a few U.S., admitted by Vicky Newland, U.S. biolabs in Ukraine... Yeah that's the kicker! ...and check it out so the Russian Defense Ministry gave a briefing on US military and biological activity and they have receipts they show documents

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Hunter Biden Plea Deal and Two-Tiered Justice Allegations

Hunter Biden has reached a plea agreement with federal prosecutors involving two misdemeanor tax charges and a felony gun charge diversion program. Republican lawmakers, led by James Comer, criticize the deal as a "sweetheart deal" and evidence of a two-tiered justice system. The White House maintains that the Department of Justice acted independently throughout the five-year investigation.

hunter biden· plea deal· tax charges· gun charge· james comer

1:14:07 acquired when they went into all the bio labs and you know, scooped up... Yeah they overran them. Scooped up the documents. Can't shred that fast! Documents acquired during this special military operation proved Walter Reed Army Institute of Research connection to the US Defense Threat Reduction Agency and its key contractor The Metabiotic Company And MetaBiota was the company that Hunter Biden played a role in funding for these biolabs in Ukraine. I mean, this stinks to high hell! All of it! Well let's stop there for a second and consider something like I constantly consider which is that the whole Hunter Biden episode

1:14:53 the craziness and then there's recent slap on the wrist, and all the rest of it. And all this stuff that Biden supposedly did, it just sounds so much like that guy who used to be the gangster in Boston that was working for the FBI... Whitey Bulger? Whitey Bulger! These guys have been working for the FBI, CIA, who knows who And they're covered. That's why nothing is ever coming of any of this There's got to be a reason that nobody is doing anything about the Comer investigation where they're finding all this money flowing into the Biden family and Biden living in these mansions. And it just, there's absolutely zip being done! There has to be a reason it's not because Biden's a nice guy. No no I think Hunter Biden is the key

1:15:51 If they unravel that guy, they unravel a lot of stuff. He's covered! Yeah well let's listen to the pixie girl on the Central Intelligence Broadcast Systems As part of the Hunter Biden plea agreement three charges were filed in a Delaware court two misdemeanor counts of willful failure to pay federal income tax on annual earnings in excess of 1.5 million dollars A third count, possession of a handgun by drug user would be dismissed if Biden remains drug free and commits no additional crimes during specified time period. A source familiar with the term said Biden's legal team expects probation not jail time though final approval rests with the judge. I think that the judge is going to do what is fair and I think what

1:16:35 is, you know my client gets on with his life. David Weiss the US attorney in Delaware who led the probe was appointed by then President Trump and left in place by the Biden administration In a statement Weiss said the investigation is ongoing but Hunter Biden's team sees it differently My understanding is that we're done Traveling in California president Biden was asked about the news I'm very proud of my son That's the quote of the century. I love that quote about the news. I'm very proud of my son Hunter Biden spoke about the federal investigation on CBS Sunday morning. I'm cooperating completely and i am absolutely certain 100 percent certain at the end of the investigation that I will be cleared

1:17:23 100 fricking percent. Democrats hailed the agreement as a sign of the Justice Department's independence, Republicans cried foul. Former President Donald Trump arraigned on criminal charges last week said Hunter Biden was given a mere traffic ticket You think this is another example of a two-tier system of justice in America? Republican Congressman James Comer leads the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating... By the way I love how they do this. So you know they pull in Biden quote, I'm very proud of my son and President Trump said and all he'd do was to question! They don't even answer just the question. Hunter Biden was given a mere traffic ticket. Do you think this is another example of a two tier system of justice in America? Republican Congressmen... It's not even his answer!!

1:18:05 This is incredible reporting. Trump said this, but we only hear the question? You think this is another example of a two-tier system of justice in America? Republican Congressman James Comer leads the House Oversight Committee, which is investigating the Biden family's foreign business dealings. A probe disputed by The White House. Will you call the US attorney in Delaware to testify I would expect the US attorney to testify in front of the House of Representatives very soon. He needs to explain whether or not his investigation is concluded. Gene Rossi, a former Justice Department official who handled tax cases told CBS News that failure to pay tax on more than $3 million even though now repaid is a serious violation. If this were Hunter Smith instead of Hunter Biden

1:19:03 I think you would have a very much more aggressive prosecution. So this is something, I feel like the country is kind of locking into it's like hey wait a minute this two-tiered justice system you know even Harridge can't get away from it. NBC had a shorter report... Tonight, after a five-year investigation the president's son Hunter Biden has reached a plea deal with federal prosecutors to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges and likely avoid prison time Prosecutors say Biden did not pay more than $100,000 in taxes on over 1.5 million dollars in income In both 2017 and 2018 And two sources tell NBC News the prosecutor will recommend probation While also agreeing not to prosecute Hunter Biden for illegally possessing a firearm Even though Biden knew he was barred from doing so because he was using drugs

1:19:58 Biden faced a maximum of 12 months behind bars for each tax charge and up to 10 years for owning the handgun. I think what's fair is, you know my client gets on with his life. The former president tonight accusing the Biden Justice Department of giving Hunter Biden quote a mere traffic ticket our system is broken top Republicans argue it's evidence of a double standard so what they've done Republicans and Democrats, uniparty people. They've moved the conversation away from the true crimes of the Biden crime family and all this all the bio labs and I mean they are involved... And i think what happened you know it's a sophisticated operation Ukraine has been used for all kinds of things for decades and decades You know even

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

Biden Family Business Investigations and Political Fallout

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy vows to continue the GOP investigation into the Biden family's foreign business dealings despite the Hunter Biden plea deal. The investigation focuses on alleged influence peddling and financial ties to entities in Ukraine and China. Critics argue that the focus on minor tax charges is a distraction from more serious allegations of corruption.

biden family· house oversight committee· kevin mccarthy· corruption· hunter biden

1:20:48 The the DNC server went to Ukraine. I mean all this does Ukraine was just it's where you go for all kinds of criminal activity And the problem is the Biden crime family are just grifters and they screwed up It's like oh, well we got these guys They've been da we can't have them blow it for us as this is this is the bonanza over here We're divvying up this country. You can't have that so let's talk about Dual standards yeah, and then what other Republicans do or Or whatever, they haul in Durham. You know? Oh let's talk about that! Let's talk about... I have an alternative clip of the Hunter thing and he still does a Hunter rundown on NTD but I still think that they're protected. Everything that we're witnessing is just an example and I'd like to know by the way how

1:21:42 How you can make 1.5 million dollars and only pay $100,000 in taxes? Yeah Well maybe he wrote off all the hookers and blow I mean it could say that like you know how you make one point five million dollars And he did it for two years about who knows how many years but those two years at that better under investigation He must have done it more than just two years now Make a 1.5 million dollars paid and don't pay don't even file hell with it Yeah, and then they booked they bust you and he had to pay 100,000 yeah Does anyone do the math on this no why would we do that? No one's paying tax except us there should be 38% of The 1.5 which is at least a half them You know it's almost three or like 300 500

1:22:28 $500,000 not a hundred thousand. No but again it was all you know and they usually had penalties where's the penalties? No no no no see that's where instead of smelling the rat people go two-tiered justice system and that's what gets everybody off track and look I'm still on Twitter i see it there's two tier justices man Okay, President Biden's son Hunter plans to plead guilty to two tax crimes and has struck a deal with federal prosecutors to resolve a felony gun charge. And today's Iris Tao brings us more from the White House in federal prosecutors charged 100 by

1:23:08 Biden with failure to pay income tax and a felony gun charge of illegally possessing a firearm while knowing that he was addicted to using drugs. According to court documents, Hunter Biden is expected to enter a plea deal basically pleading guilty to the two misdemeanor tax crimes but when it comes to the felony gun charge, he's expected to enter what he calls a diversion program through which he could walk away with no jail time or even a felony record if he stays sober for two years and gives up the right to ever own a gun again. If you are the president's son, you get a sweetheart duty. Meanwhile House Speaker Kevin McCarthy today criticized what he calls a two-tiered justice system and he vows to continue GOP's investigation into the Biden family and its business dealings

1:23:57 The DOJ should not be able to withhold any information now. But a top Democrat on the House Oversight Panel today called the charges against Hunter Biden, a reflection of the DOJ's independence and that says former President Trump who was indicted with 37 federal charges and calls Hunter Biden's charges in your traffic ticket And today, President Biden said. I'm very proud of my son. A White House spokesperson says today that the president and the first lady love their son and support him as he continues to rebuild his life while adding we have no further comment. Meanwhile, although Hunter Biden's attorney says today's announcement marks the end to a five year investigation into 100 Biden, The D O J later said on Tuesday that its investigation into Hunter Biden is still ongoing

1:24:47 Yeah, well they're just saying that to keep their power. Oh you know we might do something... It is all and also this incessant... You know the election is not for a year and a half and oh it's gonna be president who gives a crap if its going to be president? What's happening? The President is not the king! He's not the Emperor of America he has limited power see Trump No, he did what he did. He's Supreme Court federal judges tried to do you know everything else was his downfall talking to Putin talking to North Korea talking to the Saudis all that was a military industrial complex DIA whatever it is they're all taking people down

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

John Durham Testimony on FBI Russia Probe

Special Counsel John Durham testified before the House Judiciary Committee regarding his report on the FBI's "Crossfire Hurricane" investigation. Durham concluded that the FBI lacked adequate predication to launch a full investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign. He highlighted "sobering missteps" and personal bias among high-ranking FBI officials involved in the probe.

john durham· fbi· crossfire hurricane· trump· russia probe

1:25:34 It's just not that important. You know, your governor, your city council, your school board... That's what you got to focus on these in America at least we're a federated system of states still have power people are just sucked into this. This guy that guy red team blue exactly what RfK Jr said So then we have the, you know, oh let's just go back and let's as we say in the old country drag some old cows out of the canal. And lets... our coo out to slow Tyler. What is that in Dutch? An our coo out to slow Tyler

1:26:11 He's dragging an old cow out of the canal. I know, the Dutchman. Old cow out of the canal! Here is NBC's report. And on Capitol Hill a former special counsel investigating the FBI's Russia probe against then candidate Donald Trump telling lawmakers his findings included sobering missteps by the FBI Garrett Haake now with that story Special Counsel John Durham facing a five-hour grilling, defending his explosive conclusion that the FBI acted improperly in its opening of the 2016 Trump Russia probe. We found troubling violations of law and policy Mr. Durham arguing that the available evidence did not support opening the full investigation known as Crossfire Hurricane The FBI opened up Crossfire Hurricane without speaking to the people who provided the initial information is that true?

1:27:03 That's correct. Was there adequate predication for the FBI to open crossfire hurricane as a full investigation. On July 31st, in my view based on our investigation there was not a legitimate basis to open this full investigation and Durham saying he found anti-Trump sentiment among the FBI brass who launched the investigation There are some individuals who clearly expressed personal bias The Mueller report ultimately found no conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia but resulted in 34 people criminally charged Democrats noting Durham's four-year investigation produced only three criminal cases, including two acquittals and accusing the Bill Barr appointee of running political interference for former President Trump. So what comes out of all this as far as I can tell? I don't know if you have any clips but we have a win everybody! We are censuring Adam Schiff of California and it is like oh yes he has been censored

1:28:08 And if you look it up, in the context of the United States House of Representatives, censure refers to an official reprimand. Formal condemnation for a member for misconduct and inappropriate behavior! Nothing else happens? No, of course not this goes on every so often. It's supposed to be a rebuke Yes that is all a rebuke. Slap on the wrist We disapprove how you handled everything Adam Schiff Good job one Durham clip from NTD, but yeah, let's play the Durham NTD, here we go. So Chairman Mike Turner and ranking Democrat member Jim Himes came and spoke to reporters immediately following that meeting with special counsel John Durham And it's interesting because they had pretty much a bipartisan consensus of wanting to address the mistakes that the FBI made in launching that investigation against former President Donald Trump and expressing a wish to find solutions moving forward Let's look at what they had to say

1:29:07 It was interesting to hear from Mr. Durham that he has concerns that there are reforms that need to go into place and that there are still issues they need to be addressed, and it was very forthcoming in sharing with us I think we were able to get some information that would be very helpful for us on work that we have to do on both Pfizer renewal, Pfizer reforms and also reform issues with the FBI. And I appreciate my ranking member Jim. It essentially says that the FBI made serious mistakes when launching that crossfire hurricane investigation into former President Donald Trump because they lacked sufficient evidence to even open the investigation to begin with. Instead, the information that the FBI did have was based on individual sources who were politically biased and those facts went unchecked

1:29:53 Even when the FBI did come across information that was contrary to that information coming from those individual sources, they still dismissed it and continued to launch that investigation. Now of course we've heard from many Republicans, they pointed to this Durham report saying that its proof that the FBI has used their power to target political opponents specifically former President Donald Trump Of course this is a similar argument that we heard just last week during Trump's second arraignment. Now the FBI has responded acknowledging that they did make mistakes with that crossfire hurricane investigation but have said they have since taken steps to prevent mistakes like this from happening in the future and have also said that the FBI officials involved in the crossfire hurricane investigation have left the FBI either by retiring, being terminated or having resigned

1:30:44 Oh yeah, nice and tidy. Alright. Nothing to see here. Now I want to read something from a Democrat... This is a newsletter that comes out on Substack called A Letter from an American, and the only reason I subscribed to it is because one of our producers... Why wouldn't you? Because you need to have good information on all sides. Of course! One of our producers was pitching in his letters about how his wife won't come around to listen to No Agenda, and he cited this newsletter. She reads it religiously and believes every bit of it And so I'm just going to read just a bit of it discussing the Durham report and the testimony that Durham had, and just to show you where the typical hardcore Democrat is concerning the Russian investigation because it keeps cropping up. But Democrats on the committee pressed Durham on the facts of the Russian investigation itself

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Partisan Reactions to the Durham Report

Congressional Democrats and Republicans remain deeply divided over the implications of the Durham report. While Republicans call for significant FBI reforms and the renewal of FISA oversight, Democrats argue that Durham's investigation failed to produce significant criminal convictions. Representative Adam Schiff was formally censured by the House for his role in promoting the Russia collusion narrative.

adam schiff· mueller report· partisan politics· fbi reform· john durham

1:31:41 And he seemingly, somewhat reluctantly agreed under oath in response to a question by Representative Adam Schiff that the facts of the Mueller report and the Senate Intelligence Committee report were correct. Russia interfered in the 2016 election for the benefit of Trump! Trump's campaign welcomed the help and shared information and secret meetings with Russian operatives, and the FBI was justified in investigating that interference. Now this is not what anyone else is hearing but this is what the core of the Democrat Party believes." Sounds like it was written by Nicole Wallace! It's a lie! Yeah

1:32:26 That's not at all what I mean. We know a couple of things from the Mueller report, we read it all we deconstructed it It was disappointing for people that you know they couldn't hang Trump on it. We also learned that The No Agenda Show is the best podcast in universe that was also in the Mueller report. It was in there? It was in there yeah...it's a lie So then it's a lie, but they just spew it out just like this. And it goes on with the sense more about how Russia and Trump is connected and they're gonna as somebody pointed out in one of the talk shows I can't remember which one I think was Don Gino's radio show he says that there's no way that they're not going to revisit this because it works so well

1:33:12 associated whoever the Republican, whoever Republican is running with Russian interference and they stick with it. And this is underlying everything we're talking about in everything all the clips and all the realities what I just read underlies everything and it stays there. And it's been that way for decades and decades! It goes all the way back Russia, Communists, Russia Cuba on and on and on... That's always been the boogeyman So there was one moment in this hearing where I forget who it was, this guy is just like

1:33:51 Man, if you're shilling for Trump, you're going to lose everything. Your life is over! You better quit it!" Bianca John, we've now entered the fifth hour of this hearing where we continue to hear questions from members to the special counsel John Durham and what's been a very partisan display up until now while Republicans have chosen to focus on the contents of his report Democrats have tried to discredit John Durham's findings and even attack his character. You have a good reputation, you had a good reputation that's why the two democrats supported you but the longer you hold on to Mr Barr in this report that Mr Barr gave you as special counsel

1:34:31 Your reputation will be damaged. As everybody's reputation who gets involved with Donald Trump is damaged, he has damaged goods there is no good dealing with him because you will end up on the bottom of a pyre My concern about my reputation is with the people who I respect and my family and my lord Oh Lordy And I'm perfectly comfortable in my reputation with them sir So your reputation will be gone! You'll be nothing in this town That's what they're all afraid of. I do have to play this clip from Brett Baer's interview with President Trump

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Donald Trump Interview with Bret Baier

In a contentious interview on Fox News, Bret Baier questioned Donald Trump on his history of hiring and subsequently criticizing high-level staff members. Trump defended his record, claiming that many former officials changed their views for financial gain or media contracts. The discussion also touched on Trump's failure to pardon Julian Assange and Edward Snowden during his presidency.

donald trump· bret baier· fox news· 2024 election· personnel

1:35:08 Brett Baier was out for blood and I think he drew some, and he embarrassed the former president many times with what he was saying. And he just ran circles around Trump and Trump wasn't expecting it? Did he still think that Fox News was on his side? No, I don't believe that's true because he said a number of times that he knows that Fox News is flipped Well he wasn't prepared for it! I mean, listen this was... I mean Baird did a lot of interesting things but yeah go ahead say it. Talk! Just to discuss this little aspect i think Trump still thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and he can be tricked oh yes so you can't be tricked

1:35:52 Well, anyway listen to this. Your Vice President Mike Pence is running against you. Yeah? Your Ambassador of the United Nations Nikki Haley she's running against you your former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said he's not supporting you You mentioned National Security Advisor John Bolton He's not supporting you either. You mentioned Attorney General Bill Barr says you shouldn't be president again calls you the consummate narcissist and troubled man you recently called and Barra a gutless pig Your second defense secretary is not supporting you, called you irresponsible. This week you and your White House...called your White House chief of staff John Kelly weak and ineffective and born with a very small brain You called your acting White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney a born loser

1:36:33 You called your first secretary of state Rex Tillerson dumb as a rock and your first defense secretary James Mattis the world's most overrated general. You called your White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany milquetoast, and multiple times you've referred to your transportation secretary Elaine Chao as Mitch McConnell's China loving wife So, I will tell you that something happens when people leave. They can like me very much. I have this woman named Alyssa Farah. She said the greatest things long after she left. He's the greatest president we've ever had. He was unbelievable on blue. Then The View offered her a contract but obviously only if she changed reviews and all of a sudden she can say negative things

1:37:15 Money gets offered to people and some people change. This is not the answer, you know He says it yeah, he was barraged Yes, he was but he's like I'm great at firing people. He's pretty good at firing people I'm not good at hiring people And by the way gonna say that no and he should he should repent for operation warp speed Not maybe for doing it because that wasn't necessarily wrong But he should say you know that didn't work out too well That stuff is not good Well, he should also repent for not pardoning Julian Assange. That would be a big one for us yes and also probably should have also Snowden should have been on the list but also I it feels to me like he's thinking simplistically about America has grown up thanks to him actually we have grown up there's a lot of people who are Paul the septic guy called me yesterday and had some question about his generator

1:38:11 And he's like, you know man, like you were right that Ronnie D. He's no good he's a Wall Street guy but you know why Trump? You know I don't know what to do people are confused because now they start to understand the issues They're seeing what's going on Now Trump is right about what he predicted about the economy etc But that was easy to predict because of all the money that was printed then he was there and you know he saw it he actually brought The Federal Reserve closer into the Treasury than it ever was before And you know, it's just he if he could get a sentence out and explain things calmly and not always being just... You know I... Curry DeVore consulting group. That's Rumi's invitation to me! Yeah really? I picked that up from her

1:38:58 You know, and so you have RFK Jr., who's... I mean, I think people could be a single... there could be of single voting issue. The only single voting issue we have in the United States right now is abortion and maybe trans rights but everybody could be against war! Everybody could be against it and Trump can do this he has a reason or he has a record with this You know, Kennedy Jr. Yes he has a positive record in a number of issues war being one of them but instead he gets down into you know...he can't seem to bring himself up

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Donald Trump Higher Education Policy Proposal

Donald Trump released a policy statement proposing a radical overhaul of the college accreditation system to combat what he calls "Marxist" indoctrination. His plan includes firing current accreditors, taxing large university endowments, and directing the DOJ to pursue civil rights cases against schools practicing racial discrimination under the guise of equity.

higher education· college accreditation· marxism· civil rights· endowments

1:39:36 to the level of a Kennedy and be philosophical in a way that's meaningful. I mean, now there is an example... It was on the last clip list of his last show of him discussing education system calmly. And I don't know if it's on this clip list or not. No you have to go back last week. Trump on education? Yeah play this! This is a policy discussion that is great never got played anywhere There's other examples of stuff like this and it just is not what they want from Trump. For many years tuition costs at colleges and universities have been exploding, and I mean absolutely exploding while academics have been obsessed with indoctrinating America's youth

1:40:24 The time has come to reclaim our once great educational institutions from the radical left and we will do that. Our secret weapon will be the college accreditation system, it's called accreditation for a reason The accreditors are supposed to ensure that schools are not ripping off students and taxpayers, but they have failed totally. When I return to the White House, I will fire the radical left accreditors that have allowed our colleges to become dominated by Marxists, maniacs and lunatics. We will then accept applications for new accreditors who will impose real standards on colleges once again and once and for all."

1:41:07 These standards will include defending the American tradition and Western civilization, protecting free speech, eliminating wasteful administrative positions that drive up costs incredibly. removing all Marxist diversity, equity and inclusion bureaucrats offering options for accelerated at low cost degrees providing meaningful job placement in career services and implementing college entrance an exit exams to prove that students are actually learning. And getting their money's worth Furthermore, I will direct the Department of Justice to pursue federal civil rights cases against schools that continue to engage in racial discrimination and schools that persist in explicit unlawful discrimination under the guise of equity. Will not only have their endowments taxed but through budget reconciliation, I will advance a measure to have them find up to the entire amount of their endowment

1:42:10 A portion of the seized funds will then be used as restitution for victims of these illegal and unjust policies, policies that hurt our country so badly. Colleges have gotten hundreds of billions of dollars from hardworking taxpayers and now we are going to get this anti-American insanity out of our institutions once and for all. We are going to have real education in America. Thank you Great policy statement, couple problems. One he's dividing leftist Democrats you know that is not going to win the whole country with that same with DeSantis with his anti-woke stuff I'm not against what he's saying of course Of course the schools have become discriminatory but the president shouldn't even be involved in school in Fredericksburg That should be the Fredericksburg people

1:43:05 And to a large degree, they have that right and they are actually taking that. They're making use of that I think Americans and maybe people all over the world are tired of the government people at the top saying we're going to do this We're gonna fix this, we're gonna fix that...and they all hang on for dear life! And nothing happens because it's the president is not the king! No? And then he hires Pritzker! Pritzker! Douche of all douches from the douche family I haven't forgotten that. It just doesn't make any sense...I like the Marxist maniacs and lunatics, that I like That's clearly a problem Well you can't do much on the local level with schools like Harvard it's not really run by city government No I understand that but just schools in general this problem is not

1:43:57 Well, I guess it is because what the... you know who's funding these schools? It's the big endowments. That's where all that comes from you can't stop that. No, its by high tuitions. The endowment are accumulating they're not being funded from the endowments. But the endowments determine the curriculum they say we'll give you this endowment but you've got to do this curriculum. That's the way I understand it But I'm just talking about the lower level, just the kids who are being indoctrinated told they're boys and girls when they're not. Well which brings me to my talk clips! Talk! Tick-Tock! Before we go there can i just say one thing someone gave me a theory that I thought was really interesting just relating to the Biden crime family what if 10% for The Big Guy? What if The Big Guy is Obama and we're just misinterpreting that to be Joe Biden

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Joe Biden Public Persona and Staff Protection

Political analysts discuss the protective nature of Joe Biden's staff and the contrast between his public and private personas. Some suggest that Biden is more assertive behind the scenes than his public appearances indicate. Theories are explored regarding the political liability of Hunter Biden and how the administration manages the ongoing investigations.

joe biden· white house staff· public image· political strategy· hunter biden

1:44:57 Well, here's the reason I don't think that's the case. I liked it Because Obama's a newbie came in out of the blue as a coordinator for some charities in Chicago. Biden goes back 50 years into one of the most corrupt states of the country, Delaware! Good point yeah okay I'm just throwing it out there just so we got to keep... There's a thread somewhere that's maybe that during the Obama administration Biden was running it for all we know. Could be? In fact, let me get off track and go away from TikTok for a minute and bring this up I have this thesis about Biden always being a gigante you know the chin the guy around the Genovese family that walked around the village peeing his pants in underwear mumbling to himself maybe listen to this clip this is Brooks on to Biden

1:45:56 Brooks under Biden point President Biden told reporters today that he has not talked to the Attorney General about this case and will not talk to him about it. And that's utterly appropriate I would say even at longer term though, I do think Biden is still underexposed. I think his staff is still overprotective of him and he's much smarter in public than a lot of people think and private. And so I do think they need to let him get out more because it's just not good for the presidency, for him to be that much in the shadow of Donald Trump and that's been even without the indictment. Couldn't he tell them that? Couldn't you tell his staff if he felt that way? It has been said to me that the president believes when you empower people to do their jobs, you listen to their advice

1:46:35 But if he agreed with you, couldn't you tell them hey I don't need to be so protected? You would think so and i will say from what I hear inside the White House He's not a doddering old grandpa. He could like could be a very tough mean guy and a very harsh boss sometimes So he could say that but you know he might be trusting him maybe he wants to be as quiet and frankly as closed in As he has been You've, this has been your theory previously about the Genovese. What is it? The old mafia guy. Yeah Gigante I like it To me It feels like there's a thread somewhere and if someone pulls this one thread It all comes everything comes undone And I think the only way If he truly is the mob boss and He really is the big guy He has to call the hit on Hunter

1:47:29 Then I'll be waiting with your theory. Someone's got to do it! Hunter is a liability. Yeah, Hunter is liability. There's no denying that. You know? And if...I love my son so no one wants to kill Hunter. I'm just theorizing here No, I'm... if it's a mob thing. It would happen and if he is truly the Abraham here of the mob family He's gonna have to sacrifice his kid He's gonna have to do it If he does that then okay well by the way then it's all over Then America is done for Well So we're going back to play the talk thing again where reset Talk, TikTok, reset

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Mr. Rogers Song on Gender and Identity

An archival song from Fred Rogers is played, in which he sings about the biological certainty of being born a boy or a girl. The lyrics emphasize that boys grow up to be daddies and girls grow up to be mommies. The segment highlights how cultural norms regarding gender identity have shifted significantly since the song was originally broadcast.

mr. rogers· gender· identity· children's television· archival audio

1:48:18 We're resetting everybody. Now, before we play again I'm gonna do a side off. What? Before we play any of these talk clips I want to play something that Mimi got for me okay this is and you have to remember this millions and millions of kids used to love Mr. Rogers it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood of course I used to watch mr. rogers uh-huh you know yeah it has to must had to have some influence I want to play, this is a song from one of his albums and he obviously...I never watched him. I don't know, I missed him and I couldn't put up with him. You were a rebelling teenager that's why! Oh telling you

1:49:03 So, but listen to this Mr. Rogers song. Some are fancy on the outside some are fancy on the inside Everybody's fancy everybody's fine Your body's fancy and so is mine Boys are boys from the beginning When you're born a boy baby You grow up to be a bigger boy And then a man Girls are girls right from the start. When you're born a girl baby, you grow up to be a bigger girl and then a woman! Everybody's fancy, everybody's fine Your body's fancy and so is mine Girls grow up to be the mommies Boys grow up to be the daddies

1:49:56 Everybody's fancy, everybody's fine. Your body's fancy and so is mine. Heresy I tell you! Heresy! Bruising... Cruisin' for a cancellation He's dead he's dead So let's go with uh Thank you Mimi for throwing us off track. Let's go back to some crazy people on tik-tok. Go back to the nut balls And boy are they in this case now? Here's a noodle boy guy He's I don't know what he's non binary does I don't know what his pronouns are her pronouns or whatever it she is but nose ring right through the you know, the middle one and they're like the cow and

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TikTok Content on Trans Rights and White Supremacy

A series of TikTok clips are reviewed, featuring activists discussing trans rights, "genocide" in the workplace, and the intersection of body size and white supremacy. One creator argues that fatphobia is rooted in white supremacy and that the preference for thinness is a tool used to maintain racial control.

tiktok· trans rights· white supremacy· body positivity· social media

1:50:45 big giant earrings and wild makeup. And here he goes, this is the Asheville noodle boy. Up until yesterday I worked at Blum Pretzels. I asked the general manager to stand up for trans rights and against our genocide and he laughed in my face! The owner His father is a Nazi. His son is the general manager I've spent nearly a year expending so much emotional labor trying to make sure that I'm safe including having three-hour conversations with the general manager about why rape isn't funny he has sat there and watched the owner be transphobic to me He also watched and supported

1:51:26 Well, he paid me less than everybody else. You are in the Asheville area or Buncombe County do not support blunt pretzels if you support trans people Yeah yeah well this is clearly mentally disturbed momentarily mentally disturbed Or permanently Here's a woman This is the armpit girl This is a short clip. She just went on to show that she has hairy armpits. She's got hairy armpits! It was a big deal to her, but you have to note that she has a completely bald...

1:52:04 perfectly shaved bald head has been shaved. So she's got the shaved bald head and the armpits, and there's the clip. Yeah, this is interesting. Now I was waiting... the thing is if it's lazy, she can keep her head bald but she's lazy she says yeah that's bullcrap! But I mean this is... I have different thoughts about this. I remember moving to Europe in the 70s and my mom being horrified these women have hairy pits and hairy legs got a hairy leg they got hairy legs

1:53:00 So that doesn't bother me. I mean, you know... Yeah if you saw this one she'd bother you. No, I like that you're sitting at home watching this and getting all worked up over it. I kind of like that. Worked up? Like that! Like I'm gonna make a clip out of this! This is no good! By the way should mention that now because they've been doing these I don't have to do any work Because they are being sent to me. It's just magic! Yeah, and you're like... You're right it's fantastic I can't wait oh I've got all the clips i need I've got them all So here's the queer author. This is this is a long clip I'm gonna skip this one Thank you long. I don't if I can handle a long clip it let's listen to the white supremacy clip this commenter says, I'm perfectly fine with fat people but WTF do you mean? Aryan that phobia and racism are two completely separate things

1:53:54 But they're not. All bigotry in our culture is rooted in white supremacy White supremacy sets an ideal and any deviation from that ideal is discriminated against Obviously this goes for race, but it also includes the person's size In our culture skinny people are upheld as the idea There's also racism behind why skinniess is considered the idea Because as white women, we want to set ourselves apart from black women who stereotypically have curvier bodies. All bodies are beautiful but white supremacy needs to hold up a singular ideal in order to maintain control

1:54:42 Yeah, this is just the education system and the media and TikTok probably. And you know this white supremacy whereas throughout history in the Rubens period, thick women were found beautiful. In the black community thick girls are more desired than thin girls it changes over time. It fluctuates! Thank you. It's called a fashion Yes it's called a fashion now of course there's some health issues that come in at a certain point but you know that's why we have Ozempic which will get to after we thank some people but since you led me down this path

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Pride Month Counter-Protests in Massachusetts Schools

At Marshall Simons Middle School in Massachusetts, students organized a counter-protest against a Pride Spirit Day by wearing red, white, and blue. Parents expressed concerns that their children felt coerced into participating in Pride events. The incident sparked a local debate over the role of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs in public schools.

pride month· massachusetts· school protest· diversity equity inclusion· free speech

1:55:23 I do need to discuss a couple of things. Well, before you get there, I'm going to at least play one pushback clip and this is the pride push ban in Massachusetts and even though you can tell that the reporters on the news channel were horrified by this woman who's making nothing but sense These displays of intolerance and homophobia are unacceptable. This type of intolerant rhetoric starts in the home. Parents angry at town hall over intolerance at Marshall Simons Middle School, kids were asked to wear rainbow clothes in honor of Pride Spirit Day but some organized a counter protest wearing red

1:56:01 white and blue or black. The principal sharing a statement to families that pride posters were ripped down, stickers ripped up some students chanted USA are my pronouns and students showing pride were intimidated. It was an unruly disruption in fact that was organized ahead of time. While some parents were upset, others say it was overblown. Some of the kids threw the stickers on the ground but you know I can only speak for my daughter she just she didn't want to wear that to school its not that she wanted to hurt anybody's feelings She says her daughter felt coerced to participate in a pride event and was offended by some other messages like this quote from Tennessee Williams Human heart cannot be straighted as curves and winds and my daughter just kinda said you know mom thats

1:56:44 That's offensive to me who I am straight. But even parents like her opposed to the Pride Month celebration say the ripping of posters was wrong. I think destructing any property is wrong, you know? I just think that was wrong. Parents and community groups now calling for the town and school board to act and support diversity equity and inclusion. The incident sparking discussion at home on both sides. My thing that I teach my kids is just be kind, and I wish the schools would just kind of pump the brakes on what they're shoving down these kid's throats. The issue of pride in schools is very controversial, I understand that. And I think we need to start at a place of commonality

1:57:25 Now the principal says that no one was forced to participate in the Pride Day event but now parents on both sides want dialogue. Live in Burlington, Sean Schaub at WCVB News Center 5. Well it's nice to hear people on dialogue because this is more of what Kennedy calls the wages of war you know oh we gotta go to war! We gotta go I had a war against them yeah couple things I wanna read before I play two clips here So it's unraveling a little bit. The transitioning of children is starting to unravel, We're seeing clips coming out of the UK, and I didn't get those clips. You've probably seen it's like another one is outraged things on social media where- Yeah that's good stuff. Yeah the kid says hey you know you can identify as a cat there's only two genders The kid gets kicked out The teacher comes in and says this is what the authority says! The authority says that he can be anything you want And these are 13 year olds

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Gender-Affirming Care Bans and Scientific Debates

A federal judge struck down Arkansas' ban on gender-affirming care for minors, citing a lack of evidence that the ban protected children. The ruling relied on testimony from various medical associations supporting the safety of these treatments. However, critics point to detransition stories and European studies that suggest a lack of long-term data on the efficacy of such medical interventions.

gender-affirming care· arkansas· detransition· medical ethics· mental health

1:58:25 And so this is the problem with government in your school, is your government shouldn't be telling you whether it's – whether you agree with or not. The government should be telling you how to – how your children should be learning and what they should be learning but that's up to you if you want that. In 2016 there was a big MTV reality show about about this kid called Milo and Milo was born a girl but was definitely going to be a boy. And it went all through the transitioning, and now Milo is back after eight or nine years? Distraught... I can never have kids again. I regret getting hormone injections My ovaries are dead. Horrible horrible things

1:59:14 Elliot Page, used to be Ellen Page came out with this interview and just I mean it's so horrific. This child was abused in Hollywood sexually abused and then you know a therapist said oh you're clearly a boy we'll fix that right up anyone with the sound mind who reads this can see like no, no there's something else going on with this person. There is a whistleblower now that exposes the hospital for performing sex chain surgeries on minors I mean it all coming out people are not all in lockstep on this no matter what the media thinks no matter what politicians think and even if

1:59:54 The movie theaters think that they can ban, I mean here's the clip. Now the film's producers say that AMC theaters abruptly cancelled all screenings of the documentary caving to the demands of a trans rights group. AMC theaters declining to comment on the record about their decision to pull the release. What is interesting about this is this movie has just been rebranded to be put into theaters It's called No Way Back, the reality of gender-affirming care. It is the exact same movie as Affirmation, Generation Affirmation which you can get on YouTube so everyone is kind of in it for their own reasons I guess but then this happened in Arkansas as these horrible

2:00:37 Genocidal anti-trans laws are being put in by Republicans who are Nazis. Now judges are overturning them and Amy Goodman, I have to say unfortunately... Warning! Amy Goodman clip inbound Had a report that was usable usable for us. A federal judge has struck down Arkansas's first in the nation ban on gender-affirming care for transgender youth Judge James Moody Jr ruled the ban to be unconstitutional because it discriminates against transgender people and violates the rights of doctors In his decision, Moody wrote quote rather than protecting children or safeguarding medical ethics

2:01:19 The evidence showed the prohibited medical care improves the mental health and well-being of patients, and that by prohibiting it the state undermined the interests it claims to be advancing." One quote. One of the plaintiffs who sued Arkansas over the ban was a 17 year old trans student named Dylan Brandt who responded to the ruling by saying Transgender kids across the country are having their own futures threatened by laws like this one, and it's up to all of us to speak out fight back and give them hope." So I looked at the judge's opinion. And the judge's opinion literally says that science is in that children who get the gender-affirming care they deserve

2:02:09 will not commit suicide. And so you can boil down this whole debate to the truth of the matter, to what does the science really say? and then the abstraction of that is would you rather have a dead daughter or living son or a dead son or living daughter but it's usually a dead daughter living son because it's 80% as the girls So that is the PSYOP Because the actual science is only three years old that the judge decided. The other thing is interesting, obviously this case depended on whatever the expert witness was

2:02:51 I can tell you it is the Arkansas chapter of American Academy of Pediatrics, the Arkansas Academy of Pediatrics, The American College of OBGYN, The American Academy of Child Adolescent Psychologists. The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, The Arkansas Psychological Association and other scientific and medical organizations who all recognize the effectiveness and safety of gender affirming medical care. The studies are only max three years old! That's who they have as their expert witnesses. So, fine maybe you should look at Europe who have literally come out and said there are no long-term studies that show this and in fact that it's 19% of people transition wind up suicidal

2:03:40 So it's phony baloney science. It's just like the jab will, you know...it's 80% effective 70 60 50 You won't get horribly ill you won't be in the hospital Get a booster! It's because people believe the science The medical system that allows this to develop in this way is corrupted Yes And personally I think, look if your kid's a minor and you're all in on this and you want to abuse your kid have at it. If you're all in here every single step of the way then that'll be up to you and your parent and whatever else...your kids

2:04:22 When some of these kids go on a murder spree. Well, but you can't have schools doing this... There's schools now who are doing this on the sly Midwest teachers trade tips on subversively and quietly transitioning kids without telling parents That's the stuff that should be outlawed But if you really think you're a good parent all right have at it! But then be ready for the consequences And so, you know I can understand why these laws are seen as unconstitutional. If there's parental consent what are you going to do? But they should at least go out and get some good information and this psyop of would-you rather...I've seen it happen so many times Do you want a dead daughter or living son? Oh he'll commit suicide if you don't give this to your daughter! That is just factually not true

2:05:12 And so there's no other debate really. There is just no other debate, that's all that it has to be and now we're down to the book bannings which is also something... My favorite! In Utah do you know that 90 parents went in and said they got the Bible taken out of school because it has horrible horrific things in it? Which is true That's an interesting move they made and it just, it got overturned in the Bible is back. But you know yeah I mean so... It's slick, it's very tricky but the bottom line is the science is just not in on this stuff that's all! And that's what these movies show. That's the problem.

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Value for Value Model and Listener Support

The hosts explain the "Value for Value" funding model, which relies on direct listener donations rather than traditional advertising. They encourage listeners to use modern podcasting apps that support features like live streaming and interactive chat. The segment emphasizes the importance of financial contributions to keep the show independent and operational.

value for value· podcasting 2.0· donations· financial support· independent media

2:06:03 Like whatever happening the information there's there's a giveaway. There that is something amiss. That's exactly right Ah I feel like that myself, what are you drinking today Johnny boy polar? Seltzer, 100% natural. It's a hundred percent he said! One hundred frickin' percent And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea in scandalous Ladies and gentlemen say hello to my friend on the other end the one and only Mr John C Devorak In the morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning to all ships of sea Boots on the ground, feet in the air, substance in the water and all of the dames out there. Knights out there!

2:06:48 And we count 1915 trolls at this moment, 1,915. So that's up for a Sunday. That's good all things considered seeing as we lost at least five people in that sub you said subs in the water I don't know if they're gonna hear it John they ran out of air this morning It's not good. I thought today was Thursday Yeah Thursday that's what did I say? You said Sunday I'm on drugs You know what? Thursday's a lousy number. It's a crap number No, no I'm sure it's a good number Sunday is a lousy number. Yeah for Sunday it would be a lousy number. It would be a good number for Thursday you know what I had my new teeth put in yesterday so my new temps actually okay does this sound good yeah sounds fine doesn't sound any different to me ok well... I think I'm more happy right now I'm happier

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2:09:45 Because, you know free speech. As part of our value for value model you can help the show and continue its success in many ways we have clip custodian clip collectors We have all kinds of people who help us with stories I got some great boots on the ground coming up like really good UPS driver and a Honda Renta UPS driver both with Boots On The Ground reports pretty good stuff when you find out what's really going on and of course, what you're being told in the media. You can run servers for us for all kinds of things I mean the latest and greatest is bingit.io which is just phenomenal if you want to go look something up we talked about it you can find it click on the link It'll play... Is that a brewed chicken or is that a real chicken? It's a tumor

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CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

No Agenda Art Generator and Episode Artwork

The artwork for Episode 1565, titled "Klop," is discussed, featuring a Father's Day theme by artist Francisco Scaramanga. The hosts review various submissions from the No Agenda Art Generator and explain the process of selecting a primary image for each episode. Listeners are encouraged to contribute their own digital art to the community-driven platform.

no agenda art· francisco scaramanga· digital art· father's day· creative community

2:11:32 is the artwork. We like to put a new piece of artwork into our MP3 and on the promotional things where we say, hey we've got a new show, we feel it looks great in all the apps and we are pretty traditional when it comes to you know the big holidays like Christmas and Father's Day and Veterans' day and Mother's day so we always look for something that special I think the choice we made for episode 1565 We titled it Klop, for the big move-it hack. It was a Father's Day piece even though there was kind of the Father's Day donations were less than stellar. This piece of artwork struck a lot of people and people loved it! It was done by Francisco Scaramanga

2:12:23 And it was a little baby knight handing some flowers, some... I'm not sure if it was roses but some red flowers to a daddy knight. And it was just the cutest thing! It was one of the cutes- it was so incredibly cute and people really picked up on it and I think that's why we have at least 100 people more listening live today than then we normally had this artwork drew them in like these guys they can't be all Nazi Look at this cute picture. So we appreciate that Francisco Scaramongo and we had a number of pieces to choose from

2:13:00 which you can follow along while we discuss this. Yeah, actually I think i was preferring something and then we both agreed on this robot what was it? It could be wrong. No, no you liked... hold on a second. You can follow up- Oh! I like the non birthing caretaker. I like that Mao but Monsieur Perry's happy non-birthing caregiver day is the piece I like And you just thought it was a mess and it was in your colorblind, and you couldn't see it It wasn't good. You didn't like it anyway, and then then you had no other choices Hold on I said it's a mess

2:13:44 But I said that and I said but that may be because it's a lot of dots and colors that I have issues with with my so-called color blindness And we kind of left it at that because then we both looked at the scaramanga piece. Oh, yeah There's no this head and shoulders a beautiful piece It really might do one eye that my pick was based on the humor kind of of it Yeah Yeah, yeah belittling the holiday somewhat Which is always, yeah we don't like to belittle the holiday. We are traditional. Heaven forbid we do that! We're traditional man But then we got the robot. You can follow along at noagendaartgenerator.com, you can become an artist yourself and just create an account upload to noagendaartgenerator.com It's not an easy task this is these artists do this while listening live And so the minute were done now I literally find an opening clip and i've marked them during the show We decide on that, we do the credits and then we go to the artwork By then we hope to have everything in, we give the artist a couple extra minutes there To finish up

2:14:49 So it's not an easy thing to do, but if you got the skills then... I hate Father's Day because you always get these new sound machines and then you just overdo it. Use them sparingly Yeah, it sounds like a bagpipe being accosted. Mimi got this for me! It is a turkey call. Yeah but...it doesn't sound like a turkey? It does you ever do we have turkeys around here and they yell at you they make noise oh yeah well okay so I want you to go out after the show and lure a turkey in with that Okay They'll be all in the front yard I'll take a picture

2:15:32 If you're using a modern podcast app, you'll see all of these different pieces of artwork because most of them get displayed in the chapters which Dreb Scott does for us. Another great valuable addition to the show and we appreciate that so when you're driving you will see these just changing as chapters and topics change and he takes a lot of the artwork from Noah Jenner and probably most of the artwork from Noah Jenner Art Generator So thank very much Francisco Scaramanga and all of the artists who submit their work. We appreciate it, and we hope everybody gets their shot at The Leaderboard, noagendaartgenerator.com Now let us thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1566 $200 and above or sorry $300 and above is executive producer 200 above is associate executive producer These are credits that you keep for eternity

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Executive Producer Credits and Donor Thank You

The hosts read the names of Executive and Associate Executive Producers who contributed $200 or more to the show. Donors from Florida, Texas, Alabama, and New York are recognized with personalized jingles and "karma." The segment includes personal notes from listeners regarding birthdays, anniversaries, and their reasons for supporting the program.

executive producer· donations· karma· jingles· listener community

2:16:24 They are real credits so you can use them anywhere. It's no different from the Hollywood stuff, there is a difference actually we'll vouch for you if someone ever questions that you were an executive or associate executive producer of The No Agenda Show and the episode will always do that for you And we kick it off with Steven Hutto from St. Petersburg Florida $452 And I'm not sure why that amount, but he sent us a picture of his odometer which said 33 300 miles. And he says, I knew it was time to donate when I saw the odometer courtesy of my 2017 Lexus SUV. He does not drive a lot, I guess. 33 000 miles doesn't seem like a lot for six years, does it?

2:17:15 This is the five thousand miles a year Something unless you have a commute that's pretty common. Yeah, and he says no jingles no karma so my mileage I don't drive it No, no jingles no karma, so we will not give you jingles or Karma Thank you very much for your support He keeps come in before this I haven't heard from him for a while and glad to hear from them Bowman McMahon in Utopia, Texas came in with two 333.33 donations Which makes me wonder if one's a mistake and there is no note to be found anywhere even though Jay's like freaked out about it So we don't know what I love she goes check your emails

2:17:57 Check your emails, gentlemen! There's no note. There are two of these donations." It does seem kind of weird he'd have two identical donations and no notes so... I'm thinking that we're going to end up losing half this money. That's okay. We're happy to return it if that was a mistake. Yeah but also a note would be nice so we don't read anything he has to say. Well give him the double-up karma that we usually hand out in these cases. You've got... Double Up! Karma. Where is, where is in fact Utopia Texas? I don't know! I don't know it's not...I don't think it's actually that far from here

2:18:35 To be honest. You know where Rocket Texas is? No, no Texas big man. I've been to Rocket Texas What'd you do in Rocket Texas Well that's where they had the big giant super collider They were building and i was given a tour of it Is it still there? No, no It once uh this George Bush project Was it George Bush or Ronald Reagan I can't remember whoever was...I think Obama killed it Or Clinton killed it one of them Someone killed it Democrats killed it because it was good because it was going to work. And so when I was in Rocket, Texas that's what I was introduced to consider some consider some of the greatest chicken fried steak at some cafe whose name I'd forgotten in Rocket Texas. Yeah we definitely cannot have anything like that working that would ruin the oil industry why even do it in Texas you numb nuts?

2:19:25 Well, it was for research purposes. It wasn't really going to hurt the oil industry but anyway onward Chris Engler in Ancaster Ontario Candanet we're already at associate executive producer $250 and 73 cents I wonder if he's a ham 73s. This donation is a 50th birthday gift to myself, belated happy birthday to my nephew Eli and a happy belated Father's Day to my dad Fritz! I'd appreciate a birthday foamer jingle Go podcasting! Oh my god! Wooo! Listen to that horn! There you go Happy Birthday If he is a ham by the way this Saturday is field day

2:20:09 So you got to be breaking out the rig gotta be break out your rigs people get on battery power Sir Christopher in Elrod, Alabama 2-2-2 Road ducks 2-2-2 2-2 Switcheroo to honor my smoking hot wife Kim For her birthday on the 23rd. You got it Can I get a biscuit for our birthday? They always give me a biscuit all my birthday and all the Sharpton you can bear. Thank you both for all you do, Sir Christopher Knight of the Sipsi Valley." And is it just I guess just Kim right? Because we don't have... Sir Christopher I guess that's his first name so we'll just put in Kim. Sir Loud Pipes in Charlotte North Carolina also a short row of ducks 222 dot 202. You didn't give him any Miss Sharpton jingle Oh I'm sorry I misunderstood

2:21:04 No, I didn't misunderstand. I just didn't listen. Hey! That's where i did wrong It's just such a classic. Can always, can always listen to that one. SirLoudPipes Charlotte North Carolina also the short row of ducks 222 dot 22 row ducks for the cause I've not heard this in awhile but i need a de-douche bag check oh hold on a second Bag check yeah we had a jingle for that yeah de douche bag check Douchebag check! Douchebag check! So he needed that for his buddy Jay Onward, Sir Loud Pipes Baron of Mecklenburg County. Thank you very much

2:21:54 John Spiegel. I saw she pronounced Speegle, but it looks like Spiegel, but its pronounced Spiegel. Rochester New York. Switcheroo, I'm making this Father's Day donation on my dad's name Stephen Spiegel we both have been listening to the show for a couple of years and we regret that it took so long to find it Yeah, it takes everyone a long time to find it. It's a podcast please deduce him You've been deduced This donation is the least I can do and that's not the least you can do yeah You could do a lot man And I always do the least for the man that introduced me to the three most important things in my life Jesus Christ critical thinking and skiing

2:22:41 Please hit him with some Al Sharpton resist we much and the Jitty jingles Happy Father's Day to my dad and to all the fathers out there, and thank you John and Adam I keep up the good work John Spiegel Rochester New York but resist we much We must and we will much about that The GOP infighting is escalating. Politico says Democrats are outright jitty, happy to watch the GOP implode. As I'm looking for these... Do you remember this one? Yeah! I want put that in the end of show

2:23:26 That's a good song, yeah. Yeah I'm gonna put that in the end of show. It's pretty funny. Okay. Can you do the next one while i put this in the end? Linda Lupatkin is in Lakewood Colorado. Jobs karma for all the job hunters out there and for competitive edge go to image makers Inc. com for all your executive resume and job search needs or just find Linda Lou Patkin under the show's executive producer list and run a search jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for karma

2:24:06 Yes, we wind it up with... Yeah last on the list is Chris Oblenis in Jackson Wyoming. No note so that's 200 bucks and give him a double-up karma You got it here we go Well, spoiler alert. Spoiler alert we have no nightings today. Again? Yes again and we can go pretty quickly there's not a lot actually so if you just take us through the 50s will move on and do our birthdays in get to the second half of show with a sound effect all right I will start with Deborah de Châtier or Shetler. The Shetler

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Associate Producer Credits and Small Donations

A list of donors contributing under $200 is read, including "switcheroo" donations made on behalf of friends and family. The hosts acknowledge the diverse global audience, with contributors from Canada, the UK, and the Czech Republic. Every donation, regardless of size, is credited as part of the show's sustainable funding model.

associate producer· donations· switcheroo· listener support· community

2:24:49 And she is in for 150 bucks and I have to read this because it's switcheroo. I'm donating as a de-douching birthday gift, to the love of my life Mike Mezek. Turn me on to your show! Tell him his koala loves him very much so give them a dedouche. You've been Deduced Alright, then we go with Hacken...Hacken...Hacken. Which is pronounced some other way I'm guessing. No it's good though. It's Hickon! Hickon Andresson. It was Andresson isn't it? Andressson has got two E's. No it's Andressson. I know..I have it on good authority Portland Oregon sorry to hear that part

2:25:37 $150. Laughed out loud when he heard us trying to pronounce his name. Jason Bible or Bibble? Actually, his donation hack on is a switcheroo for his brother Mads K. Oh sorry I should have read that. Madz K. Yeah and he's got a birthday coming up so that's why he switcherooted it and we'll make it so Jason Bible in Austin, Texas $120.12 Mary Smith and Stewart Florida $100 Rob and Sir Stephen San Jose California at $100 is a switcheroo for Peter Boyle jr. No last night his wife lost their beloved companion of 17 years Ben the cat Oh 17 years is a long time for a cat yeah that isn't that it's a long time for a cat

2:26:25 Ian Field, $100. Sean Mountain in Nuevo California, $100. Ben Lillard in Prosper Texas 8888 Sir Kevin McLaughlin never misses a beat and here he is from Locust North Carolina with 8008 boobs! Jason Mara in Vancouver Washington 8008 more boobs Richard Hufford in Tempe Arizona 8008 boobs Rita Harrington and sparks Nevada 6533 Alex in Jed of jed oven is she ease in Czechoslovakia Jeb or Jeb or Jetshia I'll say jet of Nietzsche he's in Chechya yes 6006 CZ used to be checkers like it's Chechia nowadays

2:27:22 Not the Czech Republic. I think Alex is one of our trans listeners, a trans jester. John Pajtas in Koruna Michigan 60. Sibode Peth in Metairie Louisiana 5866 got a birthday coming up Jacob Long in Ledenburg, Pennsylvania. 5432 and this is switcheroo for his dad Jim Bob I just gotta go back to Sibode. Sibode is getting to that age when starting put my affairs in order

2:28:04 I was researching donating my body to a medical school right when i heard the story about the rats. No agenda! I took it as an omen to donate, about the heads there's several heads in the ruts. Yeah see we're saving you of humiliation Can you dedouche dad jimbob? Yes I can You've been de-douched Severanis Murty, our notorious Brahmin in Culpeper Virginia. I guess he also works for the agency 5271 Brian Richardson in Aurora Illinois 5069 And one just to mention the Aurora Illinois meetup coming up on the 25th

2:28:54 Done. He's on the list go to no agenda meetups calm Bob Butler in Cumming, Georgia 5069 is a North Georgia meetup tonight two miles in Charlottesville Virginia 5033 Forrest Martin 5005 Madison Thurman in Longville Washington 5001 another switcheroo please add Nate Thurman dad to Nate thermos knighthood okay well he can do that too Joe Oswald in Lithia, Florida. 50... Oh here we go these are all $50 donors let's start with Joe Oswald and go on to Chris Cowan in Austin Texas Andrew Gusik in Greensboro North Carolina Mason Thurman Longville Washington Christy Jones oh Nate Thurmans a switcheroo too is for his it's Mason Thurmans for Nate Thurman Christy Jones in Demarest Georgia Matt

2:29:48 Ellingworth in Montclair, New Jersey. Robert Case in Millspring North Carolina Julian Robbins and Aptos California Nicholas Rudowicz in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia. Daniel LaBoie in Bath Michigan Tatiana Prince in Hollywood Florida Sir Patrick Maycombe in New York City Robert Hannah in Poway California Luke Rayner in London UK Sir John in Heber Springs Arkansas and last on the list is Michael Stadham Michael Statum, no relation. $50! We want to thank all these folks for making the show 1566

2:30:30 the show that it is. And thank everyone who came in under $50, you're on sustainable donations or just that's what you can afford that's always appreciated is value for value we can't look on your pocketbook whatever you find the show whatever value it is to you send that back to us but we would appreciate if anyone just just send it back to us no matter what it is it's all appreciated you don't have to be an executive owner social executive producer oh god oh what are you doing man Are you okay? Was that... Please go to... And thank you again to our executive and associate executive producers for supporting us for 1566. Our formula is this, we go out, we hit people in the mouth. Real words, orders. Shut up, snake! Squirrel! Shut up, snake!

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No Agenda Meetups and Community Events

The program highlights upcoming No Agenda meetups in Wisconsin, Georgia, Tennessee, and Idaho. These events allow listeners to connect in person and organize local support networks. Reports from previous meetups in Houston and North Idaho describe the social and professional benefits of the listener community.

no agenda meetups· telegram· community organizing· networking· local events

2:31:31 And here is our list of Oathpaths. Celebrated on the 18th, Hakon Andreessen wishing his brother Madz K. Andreessen a happy birthday for today Sir Christopher wishes his smoking hot wife Kim a happy birthday for tomorrow Debra Deshelter wishes the love of her life Mike Messick a happy birthday Chris Engler birthday to Eli, his nephew. It's a happy uh bladed happy birthday he turned six and Chris Engler himself is celebrating! Happy birthday to everybody here from the best podcast in the universe!

2:32:10 We have a non-douchebag Sir Nathan Lee who is changing his title. He becomes a baronet and hereby we bequeath him with the title, Sir Nathan Lee Baronet of the Leo Moon and Everything Country Sun First Horse of Armageddon Yes, he also has the longest baronet title in the universe. Thank you very much Sir Nathan Lee! No Agenda Meetups, the companion to listening to the program. Without it you are really kind of incomplete You need the connection for your very own protection. You learn everything here but you gotta be able talk to people about it. You have to exchange ideas Go to one of the no agenda meetups they're everywhere around the world they're taking place

2:33:04 I got a quick meetup report from the third Northwest Houston Meet-Up. The Viscount Sir Economic Hitman hosted that, he had Andrea and her dad sort it out as well as Gray Knight 33 Kyle and Octo Pete David Nelson and Muhammad all showed up all really smart people who were fun to talk to the next meetup will be in July join the Houston NA Telegram group to help plan it this is another thing once you're part of these meetups there's all kinds offline groups or not offline but groups that are on telegram and other networks, discord servers all kinds of things people self-organize then when you get events people are able to actually organize things that are important within the group like when we had with snowpocalypse in Austin Sir Scott

2:33:50 Baron Scott, man. He was taking care of all kinds of people so remember to do that no agenda meetups we have a report from the North Idaho Sanity Brigade here Sir Scott The Jew here at the Selkirk Abbey once again in North Idaho and dude honestly this meetup kind of sucks because Dana Brunetti's not here i don't see any transgester people there is nobody playing the sitar ITM from Sir Jamal Blackbaron of North Idaho you need to make it two more these meetups this has just been an awesome night sir Devo here shape-shifting back to the land of Bob Dylan be back in September. Brian here, registered spook of the meetup reminding everyone that trains good planes bad What an epic meetup! Sir Devo played the bagpipe and I missed it

2:34:34 Yeah, they sent me a picture. Sir Devo actually did play the bagpipes at that meetup This is the kind of stuff you will not get anywhere else though at an NOA agenda meet up and today You can go to say hello to Summer Palooza at Riverside Park in Oshkosh Wisconsin underway now I believe The North Georgia monthly meet-up at 6 o'clock Cherry Steep Street Brewing Alpharetta, Georgia on Saturday Chattanooga Fear Is Freedom Meet Up for 40s & Fowl at Champy's Chicken in Chattanooga, Tennessee and the Star Chamber of Idaho at Beer's Guy Saloon on Saturday. Star Idaho Mo Agenda Schemes

2:35:12 at Beverage Place Pub in Seattle, Washington. That'll be at 330 on Saturday. On Sunday the next show day The Real Fox Valley Meetup 2 o'clock at Two Brothers Roundhouse in Aurora Illinois and the Morrow Woodness at three o'clock JCD time it says here Pacific Trails and Tap House in Snohomish Washington just a couple of the NOAA agenda meetups coming up between now and the next Show, a reminder if you're in Cannes France living it up with all the advertising hucksters or I guess it'll be over by then but on the 9th of July there will be a meetup there and many more around the United States Canada and Europe go to noagendameetups.com to find out more And remember if you can't find one near you start one! It's easy! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

2:36:05 It's like a party. It is just like a party I only have two ISOs, i don't think they're very good do you what do you have? I only have one ISO Well let me play your one ISO here I have it okay yes listen to it Hush up boy Okay! I kind of liked that one I have... It's chicken. No, it's not understandable. This one? Yuck! No, I think Hush Up Boy wins hands down. Hush up boy. Yeah yeah Not racist at all love it Biden. Biden the gangster. If they keep on giving. He's a gangsta you may be right about that and like how you figured that one out so I wanted to read these two notes

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

UPS Strike and Amazon Flex Delivery Conditions

"Boots on the ground" reports from delivery drivers detail the issues surrounding the impending UPS strike, including a two-tiered wage system and union corruption. Additionally, the Amazon Flex program is described as a "scam" where drivers use personal vehicles for low-paying blocks. The use of bots to snatch high-paying delivery offers is identified as a major problem for gig workers.

ups strike· teamsters· amazon flex· gig economy· boots on the ground

2:37:08 Because they came in almost back to back about UPS, you know so they're talking about their strike and You remember we talked about this right? The UPS. He says This is UPS Chris In the morning John Adam writing this boots on the ground report regarding Adams recent coverage of the impending ups strike I am relatively new member of the Teamsters Union as a full-time driver at UPS for two years your deconstruction of this segment was superb The key issue did mention is that the corruption The corrupt past president of the union, James Hoffa was able to push through a contract in 2018 that the members had voted down by 54%. This two-thirds rule has since been abolished by the current president of the Union Sean O'Brien.

2:37:50 This contract allowed the company to implement two-tiered wage system for full time drivers. COVID conveniently happened and then the company, which it typically never does started to hire tons of new full timers off the street due to massive increase in volume The full time rate as a driver after four years at UPS is $42.50 an hour Due to the sketchy language in the current contract there are full time drivers doing the same work for significantly less about 20 to 25 an hour. So we see the disparity here now these are still good rates but the key here is to see through what the media portrays as wins for the union no one mentions No mention of increasing pensions, increasing part-time or paid to offset the massive turnover creating more even paying full time jobs etc. And the air conditioning is indeed a joke! We love our jobs we drive with the doors open in and out hundreds of times a day. We don't need AC any veteran driver can show you the way when it comes to cooling down off the job so then I got a note from an Amazon UPS Honda driver

2:38:52 And he says, oh yeah I want to give you boots on the ground. Amazon drivers that are using their Hondas to deliver packages for no money is absolutely true! This is UPS outsources the Amazon packages that UPS is supposed to deliver to these guys in their Honda's. I'm one of them The way it works is Amazon has a subcontracting program called Amazon Flex They tout it to be the greatest gig ever. Work when you want, earn $22 an hour! But what they do not tell you is they only offer work in two-, three- and four-hour blocks so getting a full day's work is next to impossible... ...and you are to spend some more time checking for offers than working them

2:39:31 They overhire to keep a liquid workforce and offer distribution in first come, first serve. You're battling people for the offers if you see an offer on your phone then a bunch of other people see the same thing the first one to accept it gets it It's almost like bidding war over the work that they can keep The base rate for blocks very low They treat you like a delivery drone So he has...it was a very long note which I'm not going to read all verbatim But he says that at first when you start the program, you get all these offers and you know you get oh like whole foods three blocks away this is great. And then the offers start to dry up

2:40:08 And he says, you know then all of a sudden I get a four-hour warehouse block where have to drive for two hours. No 100 miles for $66 basically i'm driving for free and of course once you accept one it's like uber You know It's like oh here comes an offer boom you go and then you start not getting these pieces of work and here's the problem He found out that there's no secure connection, as he calls it between the offers and the app that you use to hit the offers with. And there's a whole bunch of bots and app bots that can usurp

2:40:46 these offers before it goes into alert mode on the phone. So typically, you've got your phone on you get a bloop! You get an alert, you tap on it and try to get it right away... And its always gone That's because they figured out unscrupulous individuals have figured out how to grab that before becomes alert and there scooping up all the money He says this thing is a total scam But in addition to that, all the call centers are outsourced to India. So if something doesn't work or something's gone wrong I can't communicate with the people they don't understand me. I don't understand him them and he gives a whole bunch of links to GitHub repos if you want to get on there and get in on the scam and get those offers early but this does not sound like the UPS that we love and adore

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

FDA Strategy for Fall COVID-19 Boosters

The FDA is preparing for a new round of COVID-19 vaccines this fall, designed to target the XBB 1.5 variant. Medical experts describe the selection process as a "guesstimate" similar to the annual flu shot. The mRNA technology is touted for its ability to be reformulated within 100 days to match circulating strains.

fda· covid-19· mrna· boosters· xbb variant

2:41:38 as the, you know, the king of Queens type job. It's just they're diluting it into cheap gig work which is probably why a lot of the packages and delivery sucks! And I thank these two gentlemen for their courage for bringing us to boots on the ground we never would have known about this. Then i have some climate change stuff we need to discuss actually I'm sorry I can do climate change bell I could do climate change. No, actually let me do some big pharma that's better Only I'll do a couple what time are we at? Yeah, I'll do just a couple here Dr. Jen dr. Jenn is jitty all about the new kovat shots coming this fall get ready everybody You want to have them you want to be good right in on that action All right We're talking about a new vaccine pretty much an update for a coven so So let me tee this up for you guys remember how when there was only

2:42:40 all this confusion about which vaccine, when to get the vaccine, the booster, the new variant version. All of this as it was evolving over the last three years now we have word from the FDA that we can expect in this country to have a newer COVID-19 vaccine that incorporates the latest circulating strains just as we do with the influenza vaccine, which is good news right? Because before we had the bivalent booster we were still using the same vaccine from the original wild type coronavirus. genetic fingerprint. Notice what she says, from the original wild type coronavirus genetic fingerprint ie you didn't have the virus. From the original wild-type coronavirus genetic fingerprint we need to evolve the vaccines to be current with the strains that are circulating so

2:43:37 Didn't they have all these, oh this new booster is upgraded for the Omicron? This new beep booster. Yeah that's what they did yeah Now all of a sudden we were still using the old wild type Well I think she's just full of shit Unless she's Dr. Jim Vaccine from the original wild-type coronavirus genetic fingerprint, we need to evolve the vaccines to be current with the strains that are circulating. So XBB 1.5 as if that doesn't just roll off of your tongue, that's most likely going to be in the fall version but they have to make this calculated guesstimate as to what will be circulating in a country now that... Guestimate? Oh yeah! That is what I want. Yeah, a guestimate. Just like the flu vaccine. It's a guesstimate.

2:44:21 ...as to what will be circulating in the country now. The benefit of this new mRNA technology is that within a hundred days... Wait, we have a new mRNA technology now? Yeah it's called Guestimate It's a guesstimation! to what will be circulating in the country now. The benefit of this new mRNA technology is that within 100 days we should be able to turn around a vaccine according to the circulating strain." Within 100 days? Yeah, three months about that time But they're already working on the one that we should be able to be getting in the fall. So important. And you mentioned that flu vaccine, how we get it every fall? This is going to become just one of those things we get? Yes exactly unless you're in a high-risk group and then you might need them more frequently but I cannot emphasize this enough so many so few Americans have gotten it.

2:45:12 Yeah, well if you're a high-risk group... whatever that is. A booster's a booster! The shot's the shot! What do you need more than one? Because you're a high risk group we need to kill you! ...so few Americans have gotten that bivalent booster it's part of the reason why our COVID death rates have dropped down so much How did it become bivalent?! That's an interesting question Why don't you toot your horn every single time she says it? Okay, I'm sorry with the horn. It's a little much, you know... Baggy trousers! It's-it's a little much Anyway well so bivalent, bivalence whatever but on Sunday they had the Today Show with the longest native ad i've ever seen. Did you put in on the timer

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Ozempic Marketing and the Weight Loss Market

The drug Ozempic, originally approved for type 2 diabetes, has become a massive trend for off-label weight loss. Companies like Weight Watchers and Noom are integrating these prescriptions into their programs. Concerns are raised regarding the long-term safety of semaglutide, with reported side effects including pancreatitis and hair loss.

ozempic· semaglutide· weight loss· novo nordisk· weight watchers

2:46:03 Yeah, it was like seven minutes. Oh that's beyond a native ad! It's all native ad and... That's like buying time Yes well if you listened and I only clipped couple minutes of it I just had to stop. I think its an overall industry native ad from Novo Novartis You know Novo Novartis they are the inventors of Semaglutide which is used by... Which makes it sound like some sort of... Yes, that's correct. Which is used by Ozempic and Wegovy but the emphasis was on Ozempic they did throw in some Wegovy but they really said you know parent company

2:46:47 And we know from the UK that the parent company Novartis was caught marketing and paying for marketing, which is illegal in the UK. Here it's just regular old business doing business as usual. So listen how the music changes how what the doctors are saying because Then where'd you get this again? Let's back up today show the Sun Today Show Sunday. They're playing music over the segment on the today show In December of 2017, a medication for the treatment of type 2 diabetes called semaglutide was approved by the FDA. It was sold under the brand name Ozempic. In recent months, the drug has become a national phenomenon for different benefit weight loss. The talk of Hollywood red carpets and suburban book clubs... By the way notice he says it was the FDA

2:47:48 approved it, but they wasn't for weight loss. They approved it for diabetes just misses that small little detail. Zempik is effective but isn't safe for everyone who's using it NBC News senior medical correspondent Dr John Torres has our Sunday For decades its been an obsession from millions of Americans Are you ready to do the workout? How to drop those extra pounds. In the old days, it was all about exercise and eating better but now people looking to lose weight have a new tool in their arsenal. Baby the hype is real! Prescription drugs called semi-glutide that come in and now unmistakable pen. Ozempic

2:48:31 and Wagovy, the brand names for semi-glutide drugs that were developed to help people with type 2 diabetes and patients with obesity but with a desirable side effect. Weight loss! Oh, after 12 pounds? Big names like Elon Musk, Amy Schumer and Chelsea Handler have admitted taking it. And from celebrities to social media influencers this trend has taken the weight loss world by storm. Everybody looks so great when I look around this room I can't help but wonder Is Ozempic right for me? The ads from parent company Nova Nordisk and similar ones for other drugs like Manjaro from Lily are inescapable. Plastered over Instagram and Facebook, shaking up the 75 billion dollar weight loss market. Popular programs like Weight Watchers and Noom are joining the craze

2:49:20 acquiring and launching telehealth programs to offer the drugs along with their diet tracking subscriptions. Part of a strategy that recognizes obesity as a chronic and potentially deadly disease." This is so evil what these people are doing and they throw in the, is it safe? Yeah! It's great. It's a tool. It's great. Celebrities use it everyone should have it. It's fantastic How important is that Weight Watchers and Noom are now introducing these weight loss drugs to their clients We can't shoulder this burden alone And I appreciate that industry is trying to step up to the plate

2:49:57 Wow, industry is trying to step up to the plate. Thank you industry! Thank you Weight Watchers that your helping humanity. Osempic works by mimicking a gut hormone called glucagon-like peptide 1 or GLP1 which regulates insulin levels reduces appetite and allows patients to feel fuller longer A higher dosage marketed as Wagovi has been FDA approved to treat people who are overweight or obese, but is not recommended for people who don't meet that standard. With some doctors sounding the alarm on using the drug for vanity. If you're doing this for a short term gain, you're not going to get that long-term benefit and sustained success we want from patients that actually do struggle with disease So it's a disease?

2:50:44 If you're not really overweight, you just want to look great then you use the Ozempic. Otherwise we've got the Wigovy These people are shameless and oh by the way here's where you can get it Noom and Weight Watchers This is where I stopped it this is the problem This is the problem right here and I'm gonna say it right now, put it in the Red Book. We're gonna find out that oh yeah turns out people who used Ozempic and Wachovia they're dying! Didn't expect that It just feels like it's another death thing Well the problem is... The way I see it Yeah you see? It was just approved what in 2019

2:51:29 Well, it's not... Wigovi was only recently approved for- Yeah. I'm just saying this basic product. The other one which is a high dose is like okay whatever. The basic product for diabetes was approved in 2019. Well that's not enough time. That's not even 10 years of data You don't know what's gonna happen. Your hair could fall out I mean there are side effects already including pancreatitis who needs that aggravation In fact, hair loss is one of the reported... Yeah hair loss is an issue until at least people shouldn't be taking anything That's this drastic which it's drastic okay? yeah Okay, okay. Yeah, but it's also you know It's like the epitome its um Its idiocracy

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

HCA Healthcare and Hospice Mortality Metrics

Reports suggest that HCA Healthcare staff may be pressuring families to move patients into hospice care to improve hospital mortality statistics. By moving terminal patients to hospice, their deaths are not counted against the hospital's quality ratings. This practice raises serious ethical questions about the prioritization of business metrics over patient care.

hca healthcare· hospice· hospital metrics· medical ethics· end-of-life care

2:52:18 But I'm eating crap, I got fat. Give me a shot! Yeah and why don't you stop eating? Or try to eat something healthy... I don't hear Dr. Jin talking about that Anyway the way healthcare works in the United States is as following It's all about money people Marisol Perez had a virulent case of COVID and pneumonia when she arrived at this HCA hospital in 2021. She was just 42 years old, doctors put her on a ventilator and into a coma but after kidney failure and a series of mini strokes common in COVID about a month after her admissions... Common in COVID? Staff began urging her mother Alma Salas to transfer her daughter to end-of-life care

2:53:11 and let her die. I felt like he was trying to pressure me, hey do you really want to live your life taking care of your daughter in a vegetative state for the next 30 years? I just looked at him and said i'm not gonna do it. I'm not going to let her go Another time she says six or seven HCA staff members gathered at her daughter's bedside urging her to enter treatment. One nurse, Salas says was very aggressive and came in repeatedly She got really angry I was like taking a bath The pressure Salas describes exists that some of HCA's other 170 plus hospitals

2:53:49 Staff are pressed to get patients into hospice, where life-saving treatments are withdrawn and the incentive is not necessarily patient care but the improvement of hospital performance metrics. Because if a patient dies in hospice, even in the same hospital bed their death will not be counted in the hospitals mortality statistics. A key factor used by those who rate hospital quality and the better the rating the better for business Yeah baby! Kill em' just kill them. Kill them kill them kill them Alright now you have to get us out of here with something upbeat uplifting and fun Upbeat? Well I have a few things left

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

Antony Blinken Statement on Taiwan Independence

Secretary of State Antony Blinken reiterated that the United States does not support Taiwan's independence, maintaining the long-standing "One China" policy. This statement is seen as an attempt to de-escalate tensions with Beijing following recent diplomatic friction. The U.S. continues to advocate for a peaceful resolution and the maintenance of the status quo in the Taiwan Strait.

antony blinken· taiwan· china· one china policy· diplomacy

2:54:34 Let's do, or we can do this. This is not uplifting or upbeat or downbeat. This is not bad. This is just interesting to me. But then again let's skip that shit for the next show. Let's do Blinken on Taiwan. This is Blinken selling out the United States and selling out Taiwan. The Taiwan thing there's never gonna be a war over Taiwan. On Taiwan I reiterated the longstanding US-1 China policy That policy has not changed. It's guided by the Taiwan Relations Act, three joint communiques and six assurances We do not support Taiwan independence we remain opposed to any unilateral changes to the status quo by either side We continue to expect a peaceful resolution of cross-strait differences

2:55:21 I don't understand this. You have to explain! I heard this obviously, like what? How does this even work?! Like we're... China oh yeah the minute doing anything Taiwan we gonna get our F-16's yes we're gonna do them and now it's like well but you know it's like we don't support China as being independent how does this work They don't support it. There is a document that we signed some years ago, I guess that the Chinese have thrown in our face and said hey look you're not going to support Taiwanese independence you shouldn't be talking so much about it You're talking too much And so this is Blinken's okay We're gonna talk about it anymore Wow and he had a little kicker in there Which was that everything status quo which is the main thing? He went around again nobody's talked about that

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Ireland Incitement to Violence and Hate Speech Legislation

Irish Green Party Senator Pauline O'Reilly defended new legislation that restricts freedom of expression for the "common good." The Incitement to Violence bill could penalize individuals whose views on identity cause "deep discomfort" to others. Critics argue this is a significant overreach that undermines fundamental rights to free speech.

ireland· hate speech· free speech· pauline o'reilly· legislation

2:56:11 But which is a good thing because status quo means nothing's going to change. But it still sounds like a weenie, the guys are weenie! I do have something that'll be fun to listen to from the Irish Green Party Senator Pauline O'Reilly there is an act that is being set up but I guess it's only in Ireland The Incitement To Violence Act and with incitement of violence It basically means if you make someone feel bad Listen to this short clip. All law, all legislation is about the restriction of freedom. That's exactly what we're doing here is we are restricting freedom but we're doing it for the common good you will see throughout our Constitution yes you have rights but they are restricted for the common good everything needs to be balanced and if your views on other people's identities go to make their lives unsafe

2:57:14 insecure and cause them such deep discomfort that they cannot live in peace, then I believe that it is our job as legislators to restrict those freedoms for the common good. What I heard is if you don't use someone's pronouns which of course is violence then you're going to be penalized by the law? That's exactly what she said And I would like to remind everybody in the United States we have the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and the amendments, and it's all meant to restrict government. Not to restrict your rights—you have the rights—it is to restrict...to restrict the government from doing anything to your rights which inherently means all people have these rights so there's no such thing as extra rights that anybody needs

2:58:04 Am I right? Am I right. You're dead on! I don't know why that happened. It's like a new little jingle we should use Alright everybody For end of show, i've got the resist rematch with Jiddy Oh he has some great end of show clips i heard him earlier Yeah definitely some good ones We got Jesse Coyne Nelson from Michael Anthony and Geez Laughs If you're listening to NoagendaStream.com, TrollRoom.io or one of those brand new podcast apps the Millennial Media Offensive kicks off with Bat Soup Chef right after we're done which is well worth listening to I tell you and coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain

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Outro and End of Show Mix

The hosts conclude the program with a reminder to support the show via the value-for-value model. They sign off from Texas and Silicon Valley, promising to return for the next session of media deconstruction. The episode ends with a produced audio mix featuring clips from the day's topics and listener-submitted music.

outro· media deconstruction· value for value· podcasting· sign-off

2:59:05 I'm John C. Dvorak. Please join us again on Sunday for another two to three hour media deconstruction we're here to spin you down in that spun-up world and we'd like you to remember us and send us some value at dvorak dot org slash na until Sunday everybody adios mofos a hooey hooey We interrupt your programming to bring you this breaking news. We dab, dab. We dab, dab. We dab, dab. La Vita! Oh no! First stop, Kazakhstan. First stop, Beijing. First stop, Chipotle. First stop, La Vita. Oh no! First stop, Kazakhstan. First stop, Beijing. First stop, Chipolte. First stop, La Vita There's No Real Conflict Up, dab. Up, dab. Up, dab, dab.

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3:01:17 Okay, I can first. Come on! It's all gonna be over soon. Come on! All right? God save the Queen man God save the Queen man. God save the Queen man. No, no, no, no, no, don't let him go! No, no, no, no, don't let him go! Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

3:02:00 It's all gonna be over soon. Always knew that one day I would be the mayor 33 years ago, a voice in my head told me you finna' be the most powerful black and brown man of color on the globe! The Mayor of New York City! Behold! The prophecy is fulfilled! I'll be reading about apocalypse in the Bible and I'm like that's how you get stuff done. The seven plagues, corona monkeypox climate change white supremacy man we got more than seven! The mark of the beast

3:02:44 COVID passports and the lake of fire mostly peaceful protests. I don't believe in no separation of church and state, the Bible say we in the end time so imma make sure we accomplish the apocalypse. What did Alexander Shultz needs to say about this? He goes We know they are lying They know They're lying. They know, we know they are lying We know, they know, we know they are lying But they are still lying Clear the caches like picking out the trash No sign I'm necessary when my software does it for me I'm using new cookies definitely not a rookie job See ahead of his time just that time watching Beaver Fry That lawyer Canadian guy in the morning was lost on him sounding Canada dry

3:03:34 Offended to all senses when you put on a mask I prefer you say you ruin me like cast Crafting the narrative can be like casting a spell Deny the early treatment, hell we got a Vax to sell Take this experimental treatment and do not tell Shot to the heart I'm not doing well, I like what comedians do and stand up on a stage It's globalist life is asking the world for humanitarian aid And they redefine that international crime is what they say Laws must be passed to really make Russia pay More than a trillion are confiscated today Not giving it back? No way Podfast enlisting in the podfast too fast I can use a break like a podfast

3:04:16 all the media has left to do. The M5F has boiled down to complaining about other news organizations, and I think that bores everybody! The producers want you just to what you just described? Yes As opposed to actually doing real work?! Yes What are you gonna do? This is great, oh I only have to get a bunch of clips from my competition and bitch about Tucker Carlson...I can do that till the cows come home The best podcast in the universe! Hobo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Hush up, boy