Episode 1565 · Monday, 19 June 2023

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A massive data breach targets the Department of Energy as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. takes his campaign against pharmaceutical advertising to the top of the podcast charts.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 59m listen | 44 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1565

About this episode

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joined the Joe Rogan Experience to challenge pharmaceutical industry dominance, proposing a total ban on television drug advertising in the United States. Following the appearance, Rogan offered Dr. Peter Hotez a $100,000 donation to debate Kennedy on vaccine litigation, a move that triggered a massive media backlash regarding the platforming of medical misinformation. The standoff highlights the growing divide between independent podcasting and the traditional medical establishment.

Global cybersecurity remains on high alert as the Russia-linked Clop group exploited a MoveIt software vulnerability to breach the U.S. Department of Energy and Johns Hopkins University. Simultaneously, Bill Gates secured a high-level meeting with Xi Jinping in Beijing, receiving the title of old friend while other tech leaders remain sidelined. In the United States, 330,000 UPS Teamsters authorized a strike against the Amazonification of logistics, and the FBI arrested a Michigan teenager in a case that mirrors the agency's controversial six-week cycle of domestic threat interventions.

President Joe Biden confused international audiences by ending a Connecticut speech with the phrase God save the Queen, man, while also claiming to have built a railroad across the Indian Ocean. Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak break down these verbal slips alongside the collapse of television ratings in the Netherlands, where state channels recently recorded zero viewers. The episode concludes with a tribute to the late Daniel Ellsberg and a review of the latest Value for Value contributions from the No Agenda producers.


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CHAPTER 01 / 44 Discussion

Father's Day Zephyr Report and Turkey Call Gifts

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the Father's Day special with a report on a ten-car Zephyr train sighting in Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts exchange Father's Day greetings and discuss gifts, including a manual turkey call device.

zephyr· father's day· vista dome· turkey call· silicon valley

00:00 We love you. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. This is your award-winning Gimble Nation Media Assassination Episode 1565! This is no agenda. Loving the Hotez Smackdown and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where we had a 10 car Zephyr I'm John C. Dvorak. Wow, an early morning Zephyr report! Who would have expected that? That's fantastic! That's a great way to kick off the show Yeah it was an eight car Zephyr with two private cars in the back

00:45 Father's Day special. And the two cars in the back were a like a sleeper and an observation vista dome car that were so pretty, cream and chrome it was like you go look at this compared to the rest of the train what happened to design in this country? Oh my god! Wooo! Listen to that horn. I am so happy for you, Happy Father's Day. Well happy father's day to you Yeah yeah did you get a father's day gifts? Did you get tweets texts anything? Yeah i got it...I got this You actually got tweets oh yeah boy they know daddy well don't they give the old man this he'll keep busy for hours then they found this

01:43 What is that? Turkey call. Now do you blow on that or is it electronic? No, yeah It's a two-handed operation you use to slam it with your fist Oh cool You know about that I do now Yeah Excellent So Nice My favorite Is this of the chicken thing is this thing though That little squawk at the end. It's cartoony! Yeah, it's good. Chickens don't do that? No! Oh they do a little bit like that... Okay all right everybody there you go this is the best podcast in the universe and now you know why man something cool happened last night that oh pray tell yeah

CHAPTER 02 / 44 Discussion

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Joe Rogan Debate Challenge

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience to discuss vaccine litigation and pharmaceutical industry regulations. Following the episode, Joe Rogan offered Dr. Peter Hotez $100,000 to debate Kennedy on the podcast, a challenge that Hotez declined while citing concerns over misinformation.

robert f. kennedy jr· joe rogan· peter hotez· vaccines· spotify

02:44 So on, I think it was Friday? I think Joe Rogan had JFK Jr. on his podcast and for about the first two hours he just railed on vaccines and went into depth...I'd forgotten we've deconstructed most of this but you know how they really work and how the schedule is increased in legality of it And of course he knows about all this because he sued many of these companies It was interesting because Joe started off with a whole like five-minute monologue, like a soliloquy about he always thought that JFK Jr. was an anti-vaxxer, a kook, a nutjob tinfoil hat wearing dude until he read his book about Anthony Fauci

03:34 And so this just went on and it was beautiful. On and on, and you know he says all kinds of stuff like yeah we should ban advertisement of pharma on television I mean really stuff that we pretty much would agree with! Now Joe never goes on Twitter...I think whatever he does Instagram and then whatever he posts on Instagram it gets reposted on Twitter. And Hotep Hotez our friend up there in North Texas He starts going off, you know typical Twitter like, oh look at these two spreading misinformation about vaccines. And so Joe pops on the Twitter and says hey Peter Hotez he's been on his show too, Hotept Hotez he says I will donate $100,000 to the charity of your choice if you come in and debate Robert F Kennedy Jr., no time limits

04:33 And all Hotez would do, hemming and hawing. And then now people are you know there's people throwing a hundred grand on top of that it's like $800,000 now. And Hotez is like well I'll come on I'll talk to you but I can't talk to misinformation guys. He won't do it! Nobody will they wont debate McCullough, they won't debate Malone. They won't debate anybody! This whole group of people and HOTEP is one of the top of the group. The toppers yeah. They will not talk about it...they have their spiel and they don't want to talk about it that's it no no debate. It's like checkmate! Science is in! It's really fantastic

CHAPTER 03 / 44 Discussion

Pharmaceutical Advertising Ban and RFK Jr. Policy

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. advocates for banning pharmaceutical advertising on television, noting that the United States and New Zealand are the only countries allowing the practice. The discussion highlights how the 1997 FDA rule change allowed the industry to influence news content and public health outcomes.

pharmaceutical advertising· new zealand· fda· robert f. kennedy jr· television news

05:21 Now, I doubt that the M5M will do anything with this because we don't let anybody know about this but it's pretty viral right now. So a very interesting situation. I liked it a lot thought was very funny and I'll say this about that RFK saying I think we should ban pharma advertising. Actually, listen to the clip and then i'll say this about that. You know ambitions have completely subsumed the regulatory function of those agencies and that has to end you know one of things that we need to do too is get rid of pharmaceutical advertising on television there's only two countries in the world that allow it one is New Zealand the others our country everybody who was knowledgeable as against

06:21 It not only has compromised public health, we now take largely because of that advertising. We take three or four times the amount of drugs as Europeans take and drugs are the number three killer in our country. Pharmaceutical drugs are number three killer after cancer and heart attacks they're not making us healthier. We spend more on healthcare 4.3 trillion than any country in the world and we have the worst health impacts, and we're behind like Mongolia, Costa Rica, Cuba in terms of our health outcomes. All these drugs, the pharmaceutical industry is not making us safer or it's not making us healthier. And you know, we changed the rule in 1997. Prior to 1997, cigarettes and liquor, you couldn't advertise on TV

07:16 We changed those rules and FDA allowed the pharmaceutical companies to advertise. And they not only now have a platform from which they can tell everybody you're sick, you need this, you need that... But also, they are able to dictate content on television. So they can dictate content on the local news. And on YouTube? Yeah of course! Not much new here for the No Agenda listener obviously but as it comes to you know we always vote independent We don't vote for any of the parties I mean I can't even bring myself to do it and too bad he's running is a Democrat

07:57 Because as a single issue voter, I guess if i were one of those It would help so much. It relates to everything, it relates to trans Maoism, it relates to children being morons, it relates education, it relates probably to mass murder you know children going nuts with guns, it relates to adults being idiots, it relates to so much! Just that one move, you said it yourself would probably Solve some things in America, you know forget all the all the stuff that all the other candidates say this might actually affect something And I guess somewhere he said he would issue an executive order to do it if he was president. I don't know if he can I Don't know if we can do that Boy, he'd be sued immediately Yeah, I mean that would be freedom of speech all kinds of First Amendment issues I'm sure but at least someone's bringing attention to it

08:58 which is kind of cool. Yeah, besides us! Yeah I mean yeah but it's finally... Finally the media is not going to do it because this is too much money they're getting too much cash. It has just corrupted the whole system that's the real issue. Exactly well and that's another thing that came out this morning shockwave through TV land This is The Netherlands now The Netherlands is interesting because very Western, very liberal country. They have an interesting media mix of state-controlled propaganda but also commercial television and this was the big story this morning headlines from the media analysts as the ratings came out everything's flopping

CHAPTER 04 / 44 Discussion

Netherlands Television Ratings Collapse and Mainstream Media Decline

Television ratings in the Netherlands reached historic lows with less than 13% of the population tuning in and the state channel recording zero viewers. This shift away from mainstream broadcasting is compared to similar trends in Australia where audiences are migrating to platforms like TikTok.

netherlands· television ratings· tiktok· mainstream media· digital shift

09:47 For the past three days, the television ratings in the Netherlands have never been lower ever before. Less than 13% of the country watched any television at all and the state channel 3 had a zero. Had zero people watching it yesterday! There's something happening here this switch is coming and it's happening everywhere You know, it's happening in Australia seeing it now. Headline ABC is quiet revolution behind sackings as viewers switch off TV tune into TikTok I'm not saying it's all good what's happening but at least they're moving away from the mainstream which is just dribble and poison and just nothing good

10:35 And that's probably why, you know the politicians are so freaked out about exactly about TikTok and other places. Then Elon Musk with his freeze peach because they don't control the message their messaging system is breaking it really is Well still better than any other one source What do you mean? I will well there's no...I mean If you take all the podcasts and you do all his, it's very distributed as opposed to one network TV show that can bring in 30 million people. Exactly yeah well that's the point is that that's the change I watched I was watching OAN Yes What American News? And the one woman they kind of over made up pretty girl

CHAPTER 05 / 44 Discussion

Jacob Chansley Interview on OAN and Post-Prison Career

Jacob Chansley, known as the "QAnon Shaman," gave his first post-prison interview on One America News (OAN). Chansley discussed his experiences in custody and announced plans to launch a new website and podcast titled "Get Over Yourself."

jacob chansley· qanon shaman· oan· podcasting· prison interview

11:35 Who's on a very serious? That's everyone on that channel. Which one is it which was one in particular She had the America shaman on for his first interview Oh, oh did you get any clips no I just was on this morning. I was watching it just before the show and The guy is a star He let me let me guess he really has a great rap Besides having he sounds a little like it like a surfer guru. Mm-hmm He's got a terrific rap a tremendous personality Yeah, was he in his beard? What did you look like? Did he have the hat on the helmet no No now he's got a bald head Oh and a Taliban beard Jacob Chansley

12:25 Yeah, Chansley. He's got a bald head he was wearing his suit and a bald head in it been an Italian beard now he is a charmer oh And what was the main? What was that was the main message this story a story about getting thrown in a slammer or the racist Black good guards that were trying to you know beat him up on every chance they could because he was the supposed white supremacist Wow he just had funny stories to tell any but he was I There's one clip I definitely have to go back and get because it was so funny. She asked him a bunch of government questions, and his response to it was just priceless because he... It was questions you couldn't answer because there was... He has a gag order on this one line of questioning, it seems. Couldn't say that either but if they did like this triple take

13:16 And then he just said something and he says, no comment in a very funny way. Good good. He's really good. Well, he's starting a website of podcast get over yourself perfect but what he needs is a Hollywood agent. You see I disagree this is no longer necessary Rogan will probably pick him up truly podcasts are the last bastion of freeze peach and people are selecting their own little you know whatever the truth is. I understand your position just know it when you say it over and over again but if he had an agent, he would really blossom! I disagree in the reason...I know you do but I'm gonna just tell you what I think.. I know but um but I'm trying to lead into a clip that you keep interrupting me when I say I disagree. Oh now your not doing it right? Yeah well how should I do that and to signal to you that I have a clip oh I don't

CHAPTER 06 / 44 Discussion

Spotify Cancels Meghan Markle and Prince Harry Podcast Deal

Spotify terminated its $25 million deal with Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after only 12 episodes of the "Archetypes" podcast. The hosts analyze this as a failure of the "Hollywood model" in podcasting, noting that Spotify is moving away from expensive celebrity exclusives.

spotify· meghan markle· prince harry· archetypes· podcasting

14:16 If it begins with a disagreement that creates an argument, it's gonna be tough. Let's try it again Oh, I agree with your position from your standpoint. But let me play a clip! Spotify is moving on from Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan the streaming service is not renewing their podcast both sides say they've mutually agreed to part ways ending their estimated 25 million dollar deal The podcast ran for only 12 episodes beginning last summer The whole Spotify thing is falling apart They invested $1 billion dollars they've now fired almost everybody they acqua-hired They're getting rid of every single big contract. All, you know the Obamas are gone everyone's gone the only one left is Joe and I don't know what he... Joe probably had a smart deal

15:02 The whole thing didn't work. The influencers don't work, the celebrities don't work... No one cares anymore! You're arguing with me you're saying podcast is the answer and that's a podcasting operation under? No those were exclusives it was not a podcasting operation they are exclusive you couldn't get them anywhere you get your podcasts you see. You couldn't get the Obamas on any podcast app, you couldn't get Meghan Markle you had to go to Spotify That's the point. The Hollywood system broke, no one cares! No one cares they care about us I think kind of a little bit some people...a few Well saying that no one cares and because- They're not watching they're not interested how about that? Here is what i think it was this crappy model It was stupid Yes yes It violated the principles of podcasting Yes its hollywood model You are not going to argue with me on that No it's a Hollywood model thats my point

16:02 I don't think it's necessarily a Hollywood model, it is book publishing model. It's a publishing model... No! You can get your books anywhere you can get books on Amazon or bookstore... But they're only from one publisher? No, they had the distribution. It's not just the publishing they wanted to constrict the distribution. You're not going argue with The Podfather seriously are you now? There's a flaw in your thinking What's the flaw? I don't know. Okay, accepted! There is a flaw and we don't know what it is They followed the Hollywood model they hired Hollywood people to do a Hollywood thing where its only oh we have it all you have to come to us to get it that was the flaw That's the flaw Well im not going say that's not... It's a huge flaw Its a mess Yes But the bigger question Is there gonna be any Neumann mics available

16:58 I sure hope so. You know what? If there's anyone within Spotify, we'd love to pick up a couple of cheap Neumann mics and maybe you know... I'm sure they got some other gear What else could we get from them? They probably have some nice mixers And chairs! I betcha they've got some good chairs Sure the chairs gotta be comfy Yes exactly all right Now the other big news, I mean it just was nonstop. Non-stop finally the cyber pandemic has arrived! Tonight senior government officials are racing to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent history American targets include multiple federal agencies including The Department Of Energy plus Johns Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida

CHAPTER 07 / 44 Discussion

MoveIt Software Data Breach and Global Cyber Extortion

A massive data breach involving the MoveIt file transfer software has impacted the U.S. Department of Energy, Johns Hopkins University, and the Louisiana Office of Motor Vehicles. The Russia-linked cybercriminal group "Clop" is accused of using the vulnerability to extort government agencies and private corporations.

moveit· clop· department of energy· cyber attack· louisiana dmv

17:49 Georgia's statewide university system and the Minnesota Department of Education. British Airways was also hit, officials say the hackers are part of a cyber criminal gang called Klop believed to operate from inside Russia. They've started releasing some of the data that was stolen as part of their work to extort these companies. We strongly encourage anyone who is a user of this software, to of course patch lock down their systems. The cyber criminals are exploiting a software program called Moveit which companies and government agencies use to transfer data including personal information The group steals the data and in this message believed to be from the hackers warns that if a ransom is not paid after seven days all your data will start to be published sometimes on the dark web. Cyber expert Brent Callow says foreign adversaries and criminals will be looking to leverage the data. Overseas governments will no doubt be very interested in obtaining information, a clop obtained through these attacks

18:51 Okay, couple things here. First of all, Klopp. Klopp believed to be operating from Russia. So we got Klopp and then there's this program called Move It! Now there is something missing from the reporting here. This move it stuff from what it looks like to me You upload your files, they're encrypted 256 hash shash whatever you know the above standard of any one of the many possibilities and it probably works a bit like we transfer or whatever. And so what these companies are saying there was a data breach but then

19:44 How do they know that these, it's not your typical ransomware. It's not... They haven't locked up computers kind of you know the reporting borderlines on that but they say no if you don't pay us money no mention of how much or how are you supposed to pay it usually they throw in Bitcoin yeah which has been mentioned missing from them from the reporting is terrible and that's a heritage But, you know so did they show somebody something? Because they oh if you don't pay us we're gonna start leaking your information maybe even on the dark web. So what exactly how do they know this I mean this is not an intrusion into networks This is a service it's not as far as I could tell it is not a piece of software

20:32 It is a service that people use and of course these guys got government approval so all governments, oh it sounds like a good idea. Let's put it all encrypted on AWS or whatever they're using Okay, yeah. Yeah and everyone's jumping on board now! From Fox 8 this is a special report Good morning I'm Liz Reyes we interrupt your programming to bring you this breaking news from Homeland Security officials in Baton Rouge after a massive data breach impacting all Louisianians especially those with Louisiana licenses let's listen in Let's listen in breaking news Governmental entities and organizations around the world

21:13 MoveIt is a third-party data transfer service that is widely used to send large files, and it is at the center of this very sophisticated breach. You've probably already heard other national news reports about major businesses and organizations dealing with this as well. Yesterday morning Governor Edwards held a unified command group meeting in which he was briefed on the newly discovered scale of this attack involving Office of Motor Vehicle data. Oh no! He then felt it was imperative that we get this information out to the public immediately so that folks could take proactive measures Like what?

22:03 To be clear, we believe that all Louisianians with a state-issued driver's license ID or car registration likely had data compromised. Now what does that mean? I mean this seems asinine! I don't even think this is not even related. This...I think they're just oh let's just throw this in there I'd love to know if any of our producers out there have used Moveit and what it does exactly, but this whole thing stinks. It's not going to be much different than Dropbox? I wouldn't think so but if this whole thing stinks... This doesn't make any sense! And the Department of Energy well what did they do with the department? The Department of Energy doesn't run your electricity They don't they don't they don't do that

CHAPTER 08 / 44 Discussion

Johns Hopkins University and the Cyber Pandemic Narrative

The inclusion of Johns Hopkins University in the MoveIt data breach reports is identified as a potential red flag for intelligence activity. The discussion links the current hacking events to Klaus Schwab's warnings of a "cyber pandemic" that could disrupt global infrastructure more severely than COVID-19.

johns hopkins· klaus schwab· world economic forum· cyber pandemic· clop

22:55 So, okay. So what did they hack? Just a government website that they get some important documents from Granholm I can tell you what they say more hydrogen! It's not that hard to imagine what she is talking about Well there is also this thing about the DMV records of it What difference does it make Exactly Take action I think This is, and by the way this was an evolutionary reporting. Yes thank you! Because when it first came out there was well blah blah nothing to it and its not Russia we checked on that then all of a sudden became Klop. Yeah, Klop. But now its not the Russian government so we know its not the Russian government. Its Klop! I think...and the real thing that stands out like a sore thumb to me

23:45 is Johns Hopkins. Yes, spook! Out of the blue it's this this this John Hop- what other universities were hacked? This is like one of those stories you see where 30 people are killed so they can execute one guy and he gets lost in the shuffle hmm I think John Hopkins was a target for some reason And the rest of it is all smoke screen, just so we don't start noticing Johns Hopkins. I like it! Makes a lot of sense. What do they get from Johns Hopkins? That's what we need to know. Well... They probably have... If its kind of a front for the intelligence groups any one of them

24:36 There's got to be information that has come to light. Yeah, well the way it's played in the mainstream US Department of Energy got ransom requests... Oh I have a ransom request for you? Excuse me! Thank you. It was just a request. I can't pay this sorry Okay well it was only a request don't take it seriously From the Russia-linked extortion group now it's an extortion group CLOP It's an extortion group. At both its nuclear waste facility and scientific education facility that were recently hit in a global hacking campaign. See, these are all words that are all... Data was compromised at the two DOE entities after hackers breached their systems through security. So this is different! They breached their systems? Are they in the network?

25:32 After they breach their systems through a security flaw in the file transfer tool, move it to transfer. The software is widely used by organizations around the world to share sensitive data." Have you used it? No! I've never even heard of it. We use SFTP... It's widely used! Well, I'm not an organization. Just a dude Do we know that it's widely used? I've never heard of it either From the US government department to the UK's telecom regulator and energy giant Shell. See, energy...energy! A range of victims has emerged since Burlington Massachusetts-based Progress Software found the security flaw in its MoveIt transfer product last month

26:17 Last month. Last month? But now the wide-ranging impact of it shows how even the most security minded federal agencies are struggling to defend against ransomware attacks Ransomware gangs typically scour for such widely used tools This is conflating two stories Mm-hmm Ransomware we know how that works Yeah, and it doesn't work through moveit. Yeah wait here's a little more interesting...here we go The ransom requests. A ransom, isn't a ransom... Ransom request is not the same as ransomware No it's but it also would be a ransom demand not a request

26:58 Yeah, ransom. Exactly I agree They demanded ransom Oh they requested ransom So why are they using the word request? The ransom requests to the Department of Energy came in emails to each facility said the spokesperson without revealing how much money was demanded Well what kind of request is that?! Whatttt? They came in individually, not as kind of a blind carbon copy. Oh! So it was targeted email? The two entities that received them did not engage with Klopp and there was no indication the ransom requests were withdrawn Now they go straight into the Department of Energy which manages US nuclear weapons and nuclear waste sites related to the military

27:42 Yeah, they do a lot more than that but okay. They talk about battery cars. Notified Congress of the breach and is participating in investigations with law enforcement and the CISA. Oh, Klopp did not respond to requests for comment but in a post on its website... Wait a minute! Klopp has a website? Do they have a spokesperson? Well, they didn't respond to requests for comments. They must have a PR at Klopp dot org I guess in a post on his website it said yeah it said all caps we don't have any government data! Gotta do with Russian boys and suggested

28:25 that should the hackers inadvertently have picked up such data in their mass theft, we still do the polite thing and delete all. But they're polite! What is this? What kind of hackers are these?! Oh wow... This is a scam. Recorded future analyst Alan Liska said Klopp was likely making a big deal out of how they purportedly deleted government data in an attempt to protect themselves from retaliation from Washington and other governments this is horse crap like massive loads of it too now

29:05 I don't, the whole thing with requests. But what's the point? Again Johns Hopkins shows up as the big red flag on this. Let's just listen one more time to the... Which school it was? Tonight, senior government officials are racing to limit the impact of what one cyber expert is calling potentially the largest theft and extortion event in recent history. American targets include multiple federal agencies including the Department of Energy plus Johns Hopkins affiliated hospitals in Maryland and Florida Affiliated hospitals? Affiliated hospitals in Maryland so... Georgia's statewide university system Maryland and Florida

29:48 Hmm, Maryland. I don't that's interesting well. I mean there's a lot more they don't mention Any of the other ones there hmm here we go Johns Hopkins what we do It's at Children's Hospital. I think in st.. Petersburg Florida Yeah, I don't know the whole thing is weird and and I was hoping it would fit into Klaus You know we all know but still pay insufficient attention to the frightening scenario of a comprehensive cyber attack which would bring to a complete halt

30:32 to the power supply, transportation hospital services our society as a whole. The COVID-19 crisis would be seen in this respect as a small disturbance in comparison to a major cyber attack To use the COVID-19 crisis as a timely opportunity on the lessons cybersecurity community can draw and improve our preparedness for a potential cyber pandemic. It could just be, you know beginning of a setup created a bit of tension like oh everywhere Oh they got my driver's license whoo-hoo yeah something like that by coincidence if there is such a thing

CHAPTER 09 / 44 Discussion

Barack Obama on Deepfakes and Digital Watermarking

Barack Obama discussed the threat of AI-generated deepfakes and misinformation during an interview on the "Axe Files" podcast. Obama suggested the development of digital fingerprints or watermarking technologies to verify authentic content, which the hosts interpret as a move toward digital ID systems.

barack obama· deepfakes· digital id· watermarking· misinformation

31:31 President Obama was on the Axe Files podcast, you know. David Axelrod his handler does the Axe Files for CNN Podcast Network And they were talking about the digital ID, I think in a backhanded way. This is disruptive for our economy and it goes to the issues we were talking about before in terms of misinformation disinformation deepfakes. Yes. Yeah that's coming up...I've seen a few of you. As I told people because I was the first digital president when I left office as probably the most recorded filmed photograph human and wait a minute

32:14 Is that a moniker he was given the first digital president? Not that I recall. I think it was Bill Clinton who helped get the Internet set up? No, Bill Clinton was the first black president. Oh, sorry! Sorry you're wrong... That's coming- I've seen a few of you Yeah as I told people because i was the first digital president when I left office I was probably the most recorded filmed photograph human in history which is kind of a weird thing yes but Human not just oh human and history A human Really? You don't sweat, Barack. I don't know if you're human In history which is kind of a weird thing Yes But just the odds are that I was As consequence The odds are that I was This is aggrandizement on quite a scale The odds are that I was Just don't argue with me X

33:03 Just handle me. Yes, but just the odds are that I was as consequence there's a lot of raw material there so usually all the defects start with like some version of Obama doing something dancing saying dirty limericks or some version of Obama is that what he said? Yeah Yeah. He's speaking of himself in the third person? Yes, of course! You know Obama... Some version of Obama By the way those weren't deep fakes we just people just edited your audio book in a different order We remember that Obama deepfakes

33:42 It's just all the swear words all the cuss words you put in your audio book people put them together was hilarious Not a deep fake not a deep thing. There's plenty of those not a deep fake So usually I know he's misusing the term Yes, usually on all the defects start with like some version of Obama doing something dancing mm-hmm dirty limericks There was plenty of you dancing, Mr. President! That technology is here now. So most immediately we're gonna have all the problems we had with misinformation before this next election cycle

34:21 Will be worse. Oh, yeah Okay so now we need to do something about a problem reaction and the need for us For the general public I think to be more discriminating consumers of news and information The need for us to over time develop technologies that to create watermarks or digital fingerprints so we know what is true and what is not true. Digital fingerprints? That sounds like a digital ID to me Yeah. Well, you were gonna use... He doesn't know what he's talking about. Well no he doesn't but then the thing is that because I got so much on Biden that they would just ignore him. You know I have tons of clips Let's do some AI! But let's do some Biden AI. Well i do have a bite you have a Biden AI? No you said you got clips I mean by... No I've got clips but also one Biden AI. No I have no Biden AI Oh okay well I have this

CHAPTER 10 / 44 Discussion

AI-Generated Biden and Trump Debate Parody

A lewd AI-generated parody clip featuring Joe Biden and Donald Trump debating is played. The hosts discuss the use of technology for humor and the increasing difficulty in distinguishing between real and synthetic media.

joe biden· donald trump· ai parody· deepfake· comedy

35:21 I figured that, you know he's bringing up... this is a Salvo so he sends it out. You know we're gonna have a lot of fake stuff going on but no the Biden stuff is all real! There is a fake one that they trying to push out which it's kind of funny It's Biden and Trump debating This is the Trump-Biden Cock, cock. Trump Biden clip. Cock fake. Cock is so massive I mean it is possibly the biggest cock I have ever seen and its so big. Respond very quickly and then ill get to my question Why did he's been saying his cock is massive for four years? Show us just show us stop playing around. I hadn't seen that! I hadn't heard that! It's lewd therefore it's just a borderline but man.

36:07 You got me with that one. I had not heard that one. That's good! I thought you were familiar with it? No, i'm not familiar with the cockfight. It was massive. Yeah, you should stop talking about it and show it already. This is America this is what we do with technology We're not gonna try and fake you...we're gonna make you laugh And no-one's falling for it Oh man, I think they are really talking about that What do you think I have one 12-second Biden AI clip because this obviously couldn't be an actual president of the United States talking here about pistols and pistol braces. Made it harder for people to buy stabilized bracelets, put a pistol on a brace that turns into

CHAPTER 11 / 44 Discussion

Joe Biden Verbal Gaffes and Campaign Trail Blunders

A compilation of recent verbal slips by President Joe Biden includes claims of building a railroad across the Indian Ocean and references to "54 states." The segment also covers Biden's comments on "lying dog-faced pony soldiers" and his "God save the Queen" sign-off in Connecticut.

joe biden· gaffes· indian ocean· fast and furious· dog-faced pony soldier

36:57 Make some more, you can have a higher caliber weapon-a higher calibre bullet coming out of that gun. Okay sorry for the one channel. Let's do some real Biden clips then! But that was a real clip? Oh that was him actually?! Yeah! What an idiot... He says if you put a brace on a pistol it turns into a- You get more caliber going out of the gun! It turns into a real gun and then you get more caliber higher higher caliber bullet coming out of it Alright, well I've got a bunch of clips here. Here we go! I don't do these as much as i used to No...we've been missing them but seeing the president is out there on the campaign trail He's bumbling and fumbling his way through okay let's start with 8% But you have We have 1000 billionaires in America You know the average tax rate they pay?

37:45 8, E-I-G-H percent. Eight percent. A! A! Eight percent! A! Wait a thousand billion? A-E-I-G-H. E-I-G-H Wow That's almost respectable So here we go with 54 states And by the way if they do that means not a joke everybody That's why we were defeated in 2018 when they tried to do it We went to 54 states Now, okay. So we've been through this with Obama and Obama also had the you know we have 58 states but that's when they somehow in Washington DC they take the territories into account and then these...and it is so normal for them they just for some reason they all wind up making this mistake. Yeah it's weird I think was 58 with Obama let me see

38:47 I thought it was 58 or 54. Let me see, Obama... Was it 54? I can't find anything on it. Alright let's go on! Here's Obidin- There you go, you said O'Biden! Back in the groove! Yeah baby! Indian Ocean. This is a classic. We're going to win and we're gonna help, we have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean. We have plans of building in Angola one of the largest solar plants in the world I can go on but I'm not I'm going off script I'm gonna get in trouble yeah this so it's going under the under the Indian ocean this dynamite from the Pacific as that work okay well we understand what he meant so give him a break

39:36 Give me a break. I mean that... This is the lost clip that i want everyone out there who likes to do songs you know put together end of show mixes. I don't know why we, this is not new i don't know why we never caught it before? I don't remember it guy sure would because it reminds me of the old Obama no-no-no this is Biden doing it! As I said last week we remain in the battle for the soul of America by the way Alright, God love you. Let him go! Let him go! No no no no no no no don't let him go! Look everybody's entitled to be an idiot. Whoa!

40:24 Oh man, let me hear that. That's a great sequence Oops sorry No no no no no no no don't Let him go I love this part the eeeuuueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueueue No, no, no, don't let him go. I've been watching you. No, no, no, come on. Where was it? No, no, no, don't let him go! Hey listen... That kind of works. Love it. Oh man good one. Good one that is a gem. It's beauty

41:06 He got stuck. It's literally he got stuck. Yes, stuck. No no no no no no you know like a digital it was digital glitch it was glitching Biden the digital man. Biden glitch. Biden glitch there ya go. This one here is not as good but since he does say instead of transgender says transistor Americans? No that's impossible! He did not say transistor Americans Tell me that's not true. As commander-in-chief, I was proud to have ended the ban on transgester Americans... No he says transgester! It was transistor and then he corrects himself. Hold on. As commander in chief always proud to have ended the ban on transgender Americans serving in the United States... That's the same one we played. As commander in chief always proud to have ended the ban on transgester Americans... It's transgester not transistor. Now now I'm hearing transgestor okay okay. Transgestor is a hit

42:02 Okay, let's go to the lot. This is the last of the Biden ones that I do have a couple of Trudeau's That I'd like to interject You don't does this too? Well yeah he's it's the same programming So let's go with this is the stump speech which is just a mess you know what I get when we're talking about the fentanyl at The border and all that I speak with President Mexico will you stop sending guns to us We are sending dangerous weapons particularly as always to Mexico. To Mexico! They're asking us please stop it, cut it off at the border but in God's name we could be coming if we don't do this now as you some of you know I'd usually come down and say hi to all of you they tell me there was a storm... Let me just stop here for second

42:57 But the government has been sending weapons to Mexico. It was called Fast and Furious, was it not? Yeah! Hello?! That's exactly what we do and so now does he... Has Biden not read in on this? I don't think Biden has been reading in on it. And I guess it didn't stop Wow Why would it? In God's name we could be coming if you don't do this Now as some of you know I'd usually come down and say hi to all of you they tell me there is a storm coming in Is that right? It's still is there still the deal. That's the truth now Don't make a lie as that said that scene in John Wayne movie don't make me a dog-faced lion pony soldier God saves a queen man Let's listen to his og of that number one I was a Democratic caucus Edmundo caucus

43:53 No you haven't. You're a lying dog-faced pony soldier That's the line, lying dog faced pony soldier He can't even get that out anymore let's do it again Is that right? Is still the deal? That's the truth now don't make a lie as seen in John Wayne movie Don't make me a dog faced lion pony soldier Oh he got it out! He did it Alright God save the Queen man What was that about? Dad that's the big mystery God saved the Queen What the hell was that about? Alright, two more and then we're done. I guess everyone just ignores that in the mainstream like it didn't really happen. No none of this ever happens. You have to listen to The NO Agenda Show to get a little few of these once in awhile Yeah, to have a chuckle

CHAPTER 12 / 44 Discussion

Justin Trudeau and Joe Biden Climate Change Rhetoric

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is mocked for his comments on "speaking moistly" and "drink box water bottles." This is followed by a clip of Joe Biden discussing the "Build Back Better" initiative and its relation to global climate change funding for poor countries.

justin trudeau· joe biden· climate change· build back better· plastic bottles

44:45 God save the Queen. Yes, here's Trudeau on masks Okay If people want to wear a mask that is okay because it prevents you from breathing or speaking Moistly on them He said moistly a big millennial no-no I can't believe he said that whoo all right yes good good Good. Here's him talking about water bottles. Water bottles out of, uh...water out of when we have water bottles out of plastic, sorry away from plastic towards paper like drink box water bottles Oh man it's just all so sad It's all so sad All these people they're just sad

45:36 Just I do. Oh, I do have another Biden this was-I love this one and you didn't get this one Okay, okay We've mobilized the world's leading emitters to help poor countries deal with impacts of climate change They called it a G7 The build back Biden build back better and we realized that got confusing Yeah So now we don't call it that what we call is here's the bottom line look were the ones who caused the problem United States we cleared all our land We did all the things to make our, make things more easy for us to make money. I don't know what he's saying but i just love it What the hell is he saying? I'd like to build back Biden Deal with impacts of climate change What do we call it? They called him the G7 The Build Back Biden, Build Back Better For a better life beyond your freedom Build back Biden! For someone else

CHAPTER 13 / 44 Discussion

Recording Academy AI Rules and CEO Extinction Survey

The Recording Academy announced new rules for the Grammy Awards stating that only human creators are eligible, though AI-assisted work is permitted if the human contribution is "meaningful." Simultaneously, a survey of top CEOs revealed that 42% believe AI could destroy humanity within ten years.

grammys· recording academy· artificial intelligence· ceo survey· humanity

46:36 What a narcissist. He can only think of himself, Bill Black Biden. Ay yi yi yi yi... This brings us to uh unless you have more? Nah that's the end of my Biden bit A little bit of AI news for ya since it is hot and everything now is AI Everything is AI I mean I'm using a program to play jingles AI man It's all AI Photoshop AI It's AI. Oh, use Microsoft Word AI it's all AI There are new rules at the Grammys with the brave new world of artificial intelligence in mind The Recording Academy says only human creators are eligible for an award However not all AI is banned A human just has to contribute content that is quote meaningful and relevant however that's measured I mean its just blather now

47:34 Just black, I mean everything you hear in music by definition has run through algorithms processing algorithms. Yeah if you want to call all AI samplers...I mean this is it's so not new but it's old news but okay gives ABC a reason to do this one opening survey about artificial intelligence also a little scary. Some of the world's top CEOs gathered at a summit and a survey found 42% of them believe that artificial intelligence could destroy humanity in the next five to ten years some of those same executives are approving job cuts directly related to using AI what could possibly go wrong Andrew? I guess we'll have to wait and see oh no I wish they would say that about climate change

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Claire Daly Criticizes EU Facial Recognition Legislation

Irish MEP Claire Daly spoke out against the European Union's move toward facial recognition technology and AI surveillance. Daly warned that despite talk of bans, governments are actively moving legislation to implement these tools for social control and policing.

claire daly· european union· facial recognition· surveillance· ai act

48:20 Oh, five to ten years we're all gonna die. Well I guess we don't have to worry about climate change. AI is going to eat the world." And so we talked on the last show about the European Union and that they are putting together rules against AI and what they're really talking about is facial recognition, which I guess if you want to call that AI. All right call it AI Claire Daly luckily she stands up and she said yeah It's unbelievable moved into my beat the real socialists we love her Oh did you have this clip? No I know about it though.

49:11 make our lives easier, it'll make the world a better place. Well don't believe the hype! Like so much before us AI will be used for surveillance and control It won't give us a four-day working week or longer summer holidays It won't solve the climate crisis or redistribute wealth It won't make public services better or policing more effective it'll be just more of the same but faster and probably much worse That judicial systems around the world are exploiting using AI in judicial decision-making should scare the hell out of us. That Ukraine has been held up as a living lab for AI warfare is frightening we should be approaching this subject cautiously like every new technology instead were far too quick to

49:57 to follow industry. Governments across Europe are chomping at the bit to use facial recognition, to hell with people's rights! The Irish government of MEPs who were in that coming in here saying they disagree with it but they're moving legislation before a possible EU ban. The EPP should be ashamed of themselves for reneging on their hard hours of negotiation at committee." There it is there it is so while they're working on a ban They're moving in legislation to use it. Yeah! Surprise, surprise... To use it everywhere I might as well mention this because it's been emailed to me so many times. I'm surprised

CHAPTER 15 / 44 Discussion

Amazon Account Lockout and Smart Home Vulnerabilities

A customer was reportedly locked out of his smart home and Amazon account after a delivery driver alleged his Eufy doorbell made a racist remark. The hosts discuss the dangers of being "wired to the gills" and the risks of centralized control over home security and lighting.

amazon· ring doorbell· smart home· account lockout· eufy

50:36 No agenda producers, I mean they know this stuff but still everyone emailed it to me so we'll mention. This poor customer who is all in on Amazon he has the Ring doorbell he's got the door locks He's got the Alexa he's got everything all connected to Amazon particularly the smart one is the ring doorbell which is a spy device and the locks and I guess you can program your ring doorbell with something funny You can have it say funny stuff like, hey yo man leave it there. Maybe a Fred Sanford type voice you can whatever if someone just rings the doorbell with a package and so a delivery person delivered a package in the doorbell he thought the doorbell said something that was racist so he reported it back to Amazon HQ and Amazon pulled the plug on the guy's account and of course locked him out of his house

51:29 You know, probably wouldn't let him turn on his lights. And it's like, ah! It's like don't do this people. How many times? I'm always reminded of all the people that are all wired to the gills with you can just drive by a drive-by door opener there's always kids and get one these universal garage door openers and just drive down the street open everybody's garage door being dependent on any of that stuff is just asking for vandals to have a time in their life. I love the troll room correcting me, it was a euphy doorbell not ring he said can i help you okay you get the point here's another great piece of AI so someone unleashed AI

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UPS Teamsters Strike Authorization and Gig Economy Shifts

Over 330,000 UPS workers represented by the Teamsters have authorized a strike as contract negotiations continue. The discussion focuses on the "Amazonification" of delivery services and the shift toward using lower-paid gig workers in personal vehicles to undercut traditional blue-collar jobs.

ups· teamsters· strike· amazon· gig economy

56:32 Alright, so just related to Amazon there's another strike looming. This one might be interesting and of course the story doesn't explain what it is...what the problem is but we all love our UPS drivers and they are part of the Teamsters I believe So this could be a pretty big strike Gil Guzman has been driving for UPS for 23 years Did you vote to authorize this strike? I did. We're the best in the business, and it's time to get paid like it." He is one of 330 thousand employees who want wage increases and more full-time jobs. We work hard for our jobs we work hard for this company we move this country around

57:11 UPS is the biggest shipping company in the US. Around 6% of the nation's gross domestic product passes through its brown vans nationwide, drivers deliver nearly 19 million packages every single day and a halt in operations would cause major supply chain disruptions. The reason we call it the change is that it's so integrated. So any strike especially with a long lasting strike could have a devastating effect both for the summer back to schools and upcoming holidays. The boom in online shopping during the pandemic is still going strong, resulting in record profits for the company So why not share with your employees? Drivers already won a big concession this week when UPS agreed to install air conditioning in its trucks If you could say one thing to people who are in the negotiating room what would you want them to know from you

58:03 Just don't mess it up. You got 330,000 strong UPSers that give their blood sweat and tears for this company and both sides just work it out and make it happen Now a strike is not a guarantee at this point in the negotiation And UPS says it is aligned with its workers on many key issues And it is committed to reaching a deal before this contract expires At the end of July now This is a very shallow report I dove into this. I like UPS, I like the guys and gals who drive UPS are air conditioning? Come on! Their whole system is built around their open truck These guys love it They're not looking for air conditioning But they had a vote on something A year and half ago i think And even though 54% voted against accepting the contract at that point It was two years ago

59:01 Somehow, some technicality in the rule said well you've got to have three quarters of them have to be voting. Well they pulled some fast one on him but the real problem is most of these packages that nowadays are Amazon, Amazon packages and all this is outsourced to UPS and FedEx when the United States Postal Service which has its own problems Related to technology and how, how they're you know people are not getting paid anymore. Especially the rural carriers many of them listen to no agenda but with the UPS guys and gals They they're outsourcing a lot of these Amazon packages to some dude in a Honda Civic

59:40 See, they're getting the gig economy workers who get paid much less. You can get I think it's $21 or $22 an hour when you start with UPS including benefits and your retirement package. It was like truly the blue collar...it was like Doug Hernan from King of Queens! Like this was no college needed, you can drive, it was a good company and now they're just undercutting everybody. Yeah, I think if you're there for four years you make $40 an hour or 45 is a good job comparatively speaking. But they're, what they're not saying is that UPS is just you know giving to Uber drivers basically and that's going to destroy these jobs I think. Well I haven't looked into it so I have no idea what's really going on we have Amazon trucks all over the place those things are a plague

1:00:35 You're a plague! Get rid of them. Bring in the Honda Civics!" And those are all operated by, and I think UPS may own some of them... These are these subcontractors that Nobody, you know you see an Amazon truck and you say well it's some guy independent guy bought a truck. No they tend to be part of a team of trucks in some one company small delivery company that has bought 25 trucks. Oh UPS trucks? No, Amazon trucks. Oh, Amazon yeah yeah well I think the future for this upcoming for the Zoomer generation is you will have a Honda Civic You will live in your Honda Civic because you can't afford to live anywhere else. You'll be driving Uber, Ubereats, UPS...You'll have your spatial computing with your Apple Vision Pro that's the future

CHAPTER 18 / 44 Discussion

Bill Gates Meets Xi Jinping in Beijing

Bill Gates met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing, where he was referred to as an "old friend." The meeting followed a $50 million donation from the Gates Foundation to a Chinese medical research institute, highlighting Gates' unique access compared to other tech leaders like Elon Musk or Tim Cook.

bill gates· xi jinping· china· gates foundation· bing

1:01:32 And you're living in your delivery van. You'll be happy! You have a cot in the back Exactly, I can totally see that. It's a dystopian view of things but yeah there are some elements of that taking place We're moving we're moving in that direction it seems clear So Bill Gates went to China? Yeah he did He looked really autistic Well, he is autistic. I know but he looked really autistic now in that chair. NTD did probably... you have to say NTD would do the best job of reporting on this. Oops sorry! So let's start with the NTD reports and it goes into an analysis that's interesting

1:02:21 I'm looking for... Gates. Gates in China. Microsoft's co-founder Bill Gates met with Chinese leader Xi Jinping on Friday this comes just one day after the Gates Foundation pledged a 50 million dollar donation to a Chinese medical research institute The meeting took place at Beijing's Diaoyutai State Guesthouse, a diplomatic complex used to house foreign dignitaries. Xi called Gates an old friend saying that he was happy to see the business magnate after three years. Gates on the same token said he was honored to meet with Xi adding that there is a lot of important topics to discuss

1:02:59 The Chinese medical research institute that's receiving the grant is called GHDDI. It was first established in 2016 with the help of the Gates Foundation, China's elite Tsinghua University and the city of Beijing. The $50 million from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is slated to bolster its drug research capacity over the next five years Gates's connection with Beijing goes beyond GHDDI. Microsoft has been in China for more than 30 years and has a large research center there, its web portal Bing is the only China accessible foreign search engine

1:03:37 As the regime tightens its grip on the nation's digital sector, Bing search results on a number of sensitive topics have been censored. Cybersecurity research group Citizen Lab found that being also restricts certain Chinese search results for US users not to be confused with bingit.io no not to be confused No censorship there. So I didn't know that Bing censors stuff, if you use Bing here in the US of A, then your not going to get your Chinese information very accurately Well that doesn't surprise me...I don't trust any search engine. Surprises me Part 2 Do you use Bing regularly?

1:04:19 I use DuckDuckGo. Worth noting, it's rare for a Chinese leader to meet with a foreign business leader Just recently Apple CEO Tim Cook and Tesla CEO Elon Musk both visited China but Gates is the only one who got to meet with Xi Jinping Yeah that's interesting Didn't Macron? Macron got to meet him McCron is talking about the point was that business leaders don't get to meet with him. I agree because of leaders mccrone Yeah, mcCrone's just a crony so Interesting Tim Cook got stiffed and so did Elon Elon So they brought this guy on who wrote the book wireless wars who's an analyst? And he goes off to discuss

1:05:09 interpretations of what's really going on with Gates and the fact that it appears that a gate just selling out the United States you said you want me to go to the chain to clip for or clip three check clips reach I did four It's got wireless words in it to remind, I forgot to put on a clip screen to remind me who this guy was. Alright so here we go So Bill Gates is in China he met with Xi Jinping who actually called him his first American friend that he met in Beijing What do you make of this close relationship? A friend of China is a term that is not actually a complementary term. A friend of China is someone who's on board with Chinas objectives and goals, is aligned in harmony with what China is trying to achieve When it's just the ego stroking and the alignment which is probably what the case is with Bill Gates they become a friend of China

1:06:01 And it's, as I said, not necessarily a good thing because when you look at who you're aligning yourself with it's really friend of the CCP is what they mean. Not a friend to the Chinese people. By the way DuckDuckGo? They say, we largely source from Bing. Yeah that's probably true but the word largely is the operative. And the rest is Wikipedia. Well that sounds good I think they get a lot of stuff from Google even though they don't like to admit it. Sure they do and TripAdvisor Music Max

1:06:46 Okay, so he's friends with CCP. Yeah this is gay So let's go to clip four and you wrap this And on that note it seems China has been rolling out this red carpet for businesses especially business leaders We saw Elon Musk there Jamie Dimon with JP Morgan Chase and then giving kind of the cold shoulders the White House What do you make of that kind of message coming out of China? It's kind of a funny thing. They know, they've always known that the businesses and capitalist societies are there to make profits The government side is just very different it's not pursuing even though commerce wants strong markets for American suppliers and good markets For vendors to America There is a very different agenda for the government Right so how are they gonna square that with our I mean the business of America is business

CHAPTER 19 / 44 Discussion

Antony Blinken China Mission and Supply Chain Realities

Secretary of State Antony Blinken traveled to China for high-stakes diplomatic talks amid escalating tensions. The hosts discuss the difficulty of "de-risking" from China due to the deeply integrated global supply chain and the loss of American manufacturing skill sets.

antony blinken· china· supply chain· manufacturing· gavin newsom

1:07:39 How are they gonna square this saber-rattling they're doing? I have a clip about China. Well, play that clip but to answer your question...I think that they're not going to square it. I think the situation is just gonna worsen That doesn't sound like a smart idea well This is similar to something you played on The Last Show I think short Overseas tonight a high-stakes diplomatic mission to China for Secretary of State Antony Blinken. Blinken is expected to meet with several Chinese officials over the weekend he's the first secretary of state to make the trip in five years and President Biden saying today that he's hoping to meet with China's president Xi soon is coming amid escalating tensions between the two countries so

1:08:23 The Biden administration is just going to let all these companies rot. Like, nah we're just gonna do whatever we need to do and screw you with your business Well this other guy that's this wireless... Wireless wars guy He goes on about the supply chain issues that are going to happen. It's hard to just all of a sudden, I mean theoretically you should say well screw China they're useless let's stop doing business with them but the problem is everything for the last 25 or 30 years has got China components, or it's made in China. We're pretending that we did it but it's actually Chinese and we brought it over. One of the best things I've heard recently is listening to Gavin Newsom on Hannity because Hannity

1:09:24 No, I don't have any clips. I didn't want to get clips of that. Hannity was flat-footed and Newsom was just lording it over him and making it sound like California is the fastest growing juggernaut of a state because he had all these stats you know statistics lie And so you use like saying there's prime rates in San Francisco have gone way down And you can find stats that show these. Well, they have because the businesses are all gone so there's nothing left to rob! So you have this situation and so there is an element of denialism about China and how they pretty much own the United States insofar as the supply chain is concerned

1:10:13 And there's nothing we can do about it. Nothing, because we can't crank all this stuff up again I think we've lost the skill sets that the Chinese have been developing in manufacturing that you know... We don't... Right but then I just don't understand Kids are learning about emotions they're not learning how to be a machinist So you're telling me that all this saber-rattling that we're doing, which is clearly going to hurt American business is purely to keep the power of the White House? I mean what else... What other reason is there for them to do this? I can't think of any. Because it just makes no sense! You know, is it all just ego?! It has to be

CHAPTER 20 / 44 Discussion

Karine Jean-Pierre Hatch Act Violation and Historic Status

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre was found to have violated the Hatch Act by using her official position to make partisan comments about "Mega Republicans." In a separate interview, she described herself as a "historic figure" walking through history every day.

karine jean-pierre· hatch act· white house· press secretary· mega republicans

1:10:58 Or naivete, you have to remember you have a president of the United States that's never worked in his life. He's never worked in a factory he's never worked on an assembly line. He's never worked as a carpenter. He wasn't building houses. He wasn't in this metal shop. He got hairy legs! He was even a paperboy from all I can tell. He was a lifeguard. Yes, hairy legs Oh yeah. He beat up corn pop Well actually the ego thing there may be something to it This is short clip Karine Jean-Claude Van Damme Pierre being interviewed because of course that's what... this is how Psaki ended. When they start doing interviews and there with you know, just as somehow it's kind of sickening for the press

1:11:46 What was it called? I mean spokeshole is what we call them but what is it... Press secretary. To be doing interviews about themselves, isn't that something you just don't do? Maybe it's exactly what you think Ego. Which is that this is the strategy to get rid of her I mean you said Psaki started doing this at the end Yeah, well okay This might be the end for her I think she's already violated The Hatch Act We haven't talked about that on the show Explain The Hatch Act says as a government worker You cannot take part in partisan politics Right So in other words if your working for the State Department You can't start stamping letters and re-elect Joe Biden

1:12:31 You can addressing envelopes and sending him off where you're working there, and she violated the Hatch Act about a run I don't know two or three weeks ago when she went off on mega Republicans make a mega blabla She went on off on it as somebody realized that this was a violation of the hash hatch act. She was doing I have a partisan I have it here. I haven't quit He has been clear, democracy is under assault and we cannot pretend otherwise. The president will continue to call attention to the threat to democratic integrity and public safety posed by those who deny the documented truth about election results and those who seek

1:13:12 undermine public faith in our system of government. Unfortunately, we have seen mega-mega Republican officials who don't believe in the rule of law. They refuse to accept the results of free and fair elections... So that was it? That was a violation of The Hatch Act! Then that was a clear violation of The Hatch Act And she should have been, and they know it. They don't know what to do about it. They should find her or fire her something should be done but again you know they don't know what to do because oh god what are we gonna do? You can't fire her! She checks off too many boxes there's no way she'd have to retire a lesbian my god well black lesbians hello wait black lesbian is so rare here she is your 21 second reply about how

1:14:01 Well, you'll hear it. A year in this role there's been a couple of things that I that has made me incredibly proud many things many things have made me incredibly proud to be at that podium during this historic moment again This is an historic administration. I'm a historic figure and I certainly walk history every day but this is also a historic making administration because of this president. I am a historic person That is un- that's okay, you get a clip of the day for that. Oh thank you! She is an historic person everybody! Unbelievable what an egotist Okay so she's this big historic person because she's a black lesbian

CHAPTER 21 / 44 Discussion

Orwellian Themes and the Eradication of Family Bonds

The hosts compare current social trends to George Orwell's "1984" and Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World." They specifically highlight passages regarding the state's efforts to turn children against parents and the eventual goal of eradicating natural family instincts and procreation.

george orwell· 1984· aldous huxley· brave new world· thought police

1:14:45 Okay, from Haiti or wherever the hell she's from. Yes Someone sent me a Anyway by the way shit But she's in violation of the hashtag should be terminated but continue to terminate terminator terminate someone sent me a passage from 1984 The who doesn't know it's the book by George Orwell I think a lot of people know the book but I don't know how many people actually read it and Great book to read I would recommend reading it. I would say there's a number of books And I would say reading that in the Huxley book is another book you must read yes, which is what is it called? I can't remember

1:15:23 Brave new world brave new world is a must read 1984 as a must must Neil post I'm using ourselves to death would also be another one It's all at no agenda book club calm. I think it's where we have all of these ink And I would say if you don't want to read the 1984 book the movie is good, too In fact that movie may be creepier from the book The protagonist Winston Smith says They had played a similar trick with the instinct of parenthood. The family could not actually be abolished and indeed people were encouraged to be fond of their children in almost the old-fashioned way. The children, on the other hand, were systematically turned against their parents and taught to spy on them and report their deviations. The family had become in effect an extension of the thought police." Pronouns anyone? The antagonist O'Brien

1:16:12 We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or child or friend any longer but in the future there will be no wives and no friends children will be taken from their mothers at birth as one takes eggs from a hen The sex instincts will be eradicated Procreation will be an annual formality like renewal of ration card we shall abolish orgasm our neurologists are working on it right now Hello Elon There will be no loyalty except loyalty towards the party. There will be no love except the love of big brother there'll be No laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy Maga there will be no art. No literature No science when we are omnipotent We shall have no more need of science. There'll be no distinction between beauty and ugliness sound familiar

CHAPTER 22 / 44 Discussion

Texas Teacher Resignations and LGBTQ School Politics

A report from the Grapevine-Colleyville school district in Texas highlights a surge in teacher resignations following new board policies on race and gender identity. The segment features a resigning teacher who claims the community has become hostile toward queer educators.

grapevine-colleyville· texas· teacher shortage· lgbtq· book bans

1:16:59 Now let's get to work on these children really early and disrupt the relationship between the children and their parents. Let's get them with the baby bears on The Cartoon Network! This is for young kids! We found Jared, poor lad... And this be Winnie! Hey there I am the great Winnifred! She-her! Actor? Extraordino! This is awesome! Our crew This is not okay. No, that's good. That's another good clip not okay and so you know states are cracking down on it Florida It certainly just for young children You know this had parents should have the right to determine what their what they're with their children are learning in school This is of course not the the scholastic opinion

1:18:07 And teachers are quitting now. This is a report from NBC on the same day that high school English teacher Emily Ramser won an award for being an outstanding Texas educator She stood in front of the grapevine Collieville School District to tell them why she was among dozens of staff members Resigning this year this community has continuously harassed me for the past few years To the point that there were days I didn't even want to be alive anymore much less be a teacher So I'm going to listen to what i am hearing from this community. Which is that y'all don't want people like me, people who might be gay, to teach here. School districts across the country are facing a teacher shortage fueled by burnout and low pay but in Texas many blame politics

1:18:52 Last year, Ramser's district saw a 40% jump in resignations and retirements after new conservative school board members pushed to remove hundreds of books and restrict lessons about race and LGBTQ identities. I've taught these kids for years to write into grow their voices, but I'm not going to let my actions say something different. Ramser who identifies as queer says she was asked to change some of her lessons and to remove classroom artwork and rainbow stickers So what's sad about this type of reporting is the way they bring it, is they make it sound like there's hatred against... Yeah you're sympathetic toward the poor almost gay teacher and non-binary or whatever she is who's crying on the screens crying on that on the set. And yeah that's a way its presented its slanted presentation classic news which has a perspective

1:19:48 They bring in politics, of course. And this is the poison. She had to take her stickers down! Oh no... and they banned- and the book banning in there was generalized so it sounds like they're banning you know everything yes and so this is political And it's obvious, you know. It's Texas and they talk about laws and what this happens is with the under-educated over socialized individuals that the entire world is full of—this is not just America but it's really prevalent here—you get people really believing that they are hated

1:20:27 I mean that's what she said, you know they don't like people like me. I don't think that's ever been said it's like...you know She actually said in that clip, I'm here to teach the children how to write and grow their voices What? No! You're not here to grow their voices. I disagree That's not what you're here to do but okay grow your voices, it just turns into this... Second grader? Yeah. It turns into this horrible hatred for each other and I mean this clip on C-SPAN Washington Journal really exemplifies

CHAPTER 23 / 44 Discussion

Ohio Transgender Rights Battle and Youth Medical Care

The Ohio legislature is considering HB 68, a bill that would ban gender reassignment surgery and puberty blockers for minors. The segment includes testimony from an 11-year-old child and a discussion on the conflicting scientific studies regarding mental health outcomes for transgender youth.

ohio· hb 68· puberty blockers· gender affirming care· c-span

1:21:04 Poor news reporting, or I shouldn't say poor it's actually excellent news. What they're doing on in the news which is in general mainstream news is run by Democrat Party of America This is what they want. This is how they want to communicate it because It's going to get more of America sympathetic to vote Democrat I guess that's the idea and this is the result of it. This is Lorelli, I believe in Galveston Texas independent good morning Morning there. I'm just gonna say that, you know...I'll be straight with you as I can be. I am a lesbian so it's going to be kind of hard but uh Wake up America! Mega Republicans are falling into Nazis' misms They're calling for genocide on trans people like myself Every hitty here in the morning who has been calling so far Has been nothing but calling for my death

1:21:59 They have, there's been a few good cars but most of the Republicans have been calling for my death. They are saying I don't have a right to this and I should die The one car said hit me over the head with a firepan because he is a Nazi and he does not want me here Alright we'll hold off on the Nazi references This is Steven Finally! There someone who is convinced convinced that Republicans are Nazis, all of them and they want this person dead. And there's just no evidence of this! There is no evidence of it but it's the way the news brings it like battle brewing over trans rights This morning Columbus is preparing to welcome an estimated 700 thousand people to its annual pride parade while a battle is brewing just blocks away at The Ohio Statehouse over the future of trans rights

1:22:48 The Republican-controlled state legislature is considering a number of bills impacting trans youth. One, called HB 68 would make it illegal for doctors to provide gender affirming care for trans minors including prescribing puberty blockers or hormones That one definitely concerns me considering I am actually on the waiting list for getting puberty blockers. 11-year old Michael Faria has identified as a boy for years now his parents say puberty blockers are needed to essentially allow him to pause his development for now it makes me uncomfortable that I having to go through feminine puberty. HB 68 is to save adolescents from experimentation Republican State Representative Gary Click is the primary sponsor of this bill he also touted would ban doctors from performing gender reassignment surgery on a minor something opponents argue isn't happening in Ohio

1:23:38 I have done a lot of research, talked to a lot of professionals on this. Our side gets ignored in this we have the science is on our side But the American Academy of Pediatrics Now listen to their studies and tell me what's common thing about the science that they have Published study finding transgender teens who were given puberty blockers experience superior mental health outcomes compared those who wanted medication but didn't receive it And a 2022 study concluded transgender and non-binary youth with access to gender affirming care had 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression. I certainly wish them the best in all of you, I love these kids, I care about these kids and i'm not trying to ruin people's lives The Farias have accepted that HB 68 may become law

1:24:24 They say that's why for many in the LGBTQ community, this year's Pride celebration has turned into a call to action. Although it will hurt the trans community it is not going to make us detransition or just pop out of existence I guess they aren't necessarily getting rid of us So there's another child being abused by the media to be a spokesperson and the same message, we're not going to disappear. They're not going to get rid of us We're not just gonna go away These are all very very hurtful messages this child has been fed with and all these studies do not go back any further than 2019 that's the oldest they have And science is clearly not settled on the long-term effects

CHAPTER 24 / 44 Discussion

Detransition Stories and Counter-Programming Narratives

The hosts reference stories from the show notes regarding individuals who have detransitioned, including a producer in Chechnya. Another story describes a mother who left Berkeley for New England to help her son move away from a trans identity fostered by therapists.

detransition· chechnya· berkeley· vaccine mandates· show notes

1:25:13 And just the words that are being used, battle you know, right to existence all this stuff is bad. We have a number of emails which I'm not going to read I've cleared it with with all of them to put them in the show notes, I would say specifically read Alexa who's a trans producer of The No Agenda Show in Chechnya but who went through the same as now our knight who was a dame. Who detransitioned and and Alex is 40, you know had to go through almost three years at older age to be able to do all the transitioning the medical transitioning. And agrees that it's insane what is happening right now and it's clearly happening for political reasons

1:26:03 Another one from, I think you read this one. The Boots on the Ground Fleeing California to Save a Child's Life? You probably read that one where this mother single mom completely went all in the program in Berkeley and her son became...was identifying as a girl and then once they didn't want to accept the vaccine into their life they were kicked out of the group there were no good anymore So they left, left for a new... Interesting coincidence. Yes you know my body right? Left for New England and once away from the therapists the boy felt like a boy again and was like oh he's playing football yeah so those are in the show notes worth looking at just as counter-programming to all this

CHAPTER 25 / 44 Discussion

Scott Galloway and Kara Swisher on Transgender Athletes

Professor Scott Galloway argued on the "Pivot" podcast that Democrats must oppose trans women competing in elite female sports to maintain the ability to advocate for trans rights. Galloway characterized the current situation as "misogyny" due to the physical advantages of male physiology, leading to a debate with co-host Kara Swisher.

scott galloway· kara swisher· trans athletes· belgian waffle race· misogyny

1:26:56 But there's something happened that I need to highlight because i give the pivot people a lot of crap and actually this has nothing to do with Kara Swisher because she is still a horrible person and I'm not going to play her retort to this. But Scott, Professor Galloway who just in the last show called non-man...I have to say, I gotta give him props he may be the canary in the coal mine! He may be waking up it seems like he has his head screwed on right when it comes trans athletes and I need to play this just to balance out all the crap i give them. So, I think the tweet was on the line... Let me start by saying first of all you're not transphobic! I thought this was a stupid tweet but you are not transphobic go ahead move on Go ahead! Thanks, I think Wow! At least she's calling you transphobic it's not true Oh yeah so that's exactly what she does You know he sent out a tweet and got a lot of crap for it And she'll just here's my opinion heres' my opinion here's my opinion go ahead

1:27:53 I gotta play that again so you can hear it in context. So, I think the tweet was on the line... Let me start by saying first of all you're not transphobic. I thought this was a stupid tweet but you are not transphobic go ahead move on. Thanks? I think? People were calling you transphobic its not true. Oh yeah that was a go-to your transphobic. Yeah. So Austin Killips a trans woman won the Belgian waffle race on Saturday thats 131 mile course runs through the Blue Ridge Mountains And the number two writer came in four and a half minutes behind her. And what my tweet was, and I hope it'll get wrong because obviously Twitter's not a place for nuance. I said that unless Democrats condemn trans women athletes competing at elite, at this elite level, it will impair our ability to advocate for transgender rights. Now notice here

1:28:47 He says Democrats. Just notice that everything with these people is politically motivated, he says Democrats what he meant is liberals but he said Democrats and I think what's happening here Kara is that in an attempt to be empathetic in an attempt to fight for the rights of a group that has been marginalized and has been persecuted In my view we have kind of lost our minds and ideologically this snake is eating its own tail now What do I mean by that? If you think about male physiology, I mean what it comes right down to is if you look at most of the studies to summarize them men are physically stronger. Women are emotionally and mentally stronger even a childhood age like girls can survive divorce with much better outcomes than boys but anyways there's just no comparison and what we have decided to do when we let

1:29:45 people who are born as males compete in these races after they have gone through puberty where you pour testosterone over a bigger, larger muscle mass and greater bone density and skeletal infrastructure. I think you end up with misogyny and that is that the entire world of elite sports All of the camaraderie, all of the money, all of the scholarships, all of the relevance, all of the accolades, the confidence. All these wonderful things are about to be slowly but surely sequestered into one group and that is people born with penises unless we have a certain level involving money and scholarships unless you say look, you're either born with a vagina

1:30:34 or you're going to be in another separate category. But the notion that we are going to start having people at 6'5 and the wingspan of Michael Phelps, who by the way still have a penis and testicles compete in the NCAA swim meet this is nothing but us going way too far and in a misguided attempt to say to get our bona fides around progressiveness are hurting women and there needs to be some nuance here. Okay, I get that go ahead can I anyways? I just and immediately people start calling you transphobic they did and I'm like this isn't transphobic You know who I'm advocating for

1:31:15 Not only women, but I'm advocating. I believe our ability to advocate for the LGBTQ community and the transgender community is diminished because people think well this hateful transgender legislation is ridiculous and stupid but the Democrats have lost their fucking minds. So yes now the thing that was...I don't have the clip for you because it's just I can't Kara Swisher then goes on to say over eight minutes, well the difference is you're a Democrat. The Republicans they really hate trans people they really hate the LGBT community these people are so brainwashed that they don't believe the exact same words... You and I could have both said this we would have said it more succinctly and shorter

1:32:05 We could have said that. And we probably have said it 10 years ago! Yes, it's like this makes no sense you just can't say that as someone who likes Freeze Peach or is branded as a Republican or MAGA these people are some of the most bigoted people in the world and they really need to check themselves but good on Professor Scott he... Prof G I'm sorry He at least sees that this is not a good idea. I thought that was a breakthrough. Nah! What do you mean, nah? It was a breakthrough! There's no breakthrough... It was a breakthrough totally he had a moment of clarity and wait a minute Moment of clarity is not a breakthrough Okay good point

1:33:03 I mean, the logic is there. I was listening to KRN TV News the other day and one of the news readers just blurted out said well, they transgender athlete they're saying it's that they have a distinctive advantage over the female athlete Yeah And then she just says there's no evidence of this! They're so afraid of losing their job That's it. They're just afraid, but I don't think so. I disagree with that again. I've done this before with you on this particular topic where it's not fear its sincerity. Well they really believe this stuff yeah well okay? I think that if in fact there was a cure is not insincere you're right

CHAPTER 26 / 44 Discussion

Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic Fever and Climate Change Warnings

UK scientists have issued warnings about the Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF) potentially reaching Britain due to climate change. The virus, which has a 50% fatality rate, is spread by ticks and has recently caused an outbreak in Namibia.

cchf· climate change· ticks· namibia· hemorrhagic fever

1:33:59 You're right, she's not. She is not afraid that's for sure No she's not well she got money from her divorce so... That's..she got no problem there There was some studies... It's true. You always throw that little jibe in there, yeah? When you have money like hey let me sell curry.com for 10 million dollars watch me go off the rails and watch this show change The show would be great! Insulting everybody I have no clips but lots of stories in the UK. Headlines, headlines, headlines. Fresh warning of deadly new virus surfaces. Virus which kills one person a second likely to be heading to UK scientists say. Urgent warning after outbreak of one of the world's deadliest diseases after man dies in Namibia

1:34:57 And my favorite, new deadly virus highly likely to arrive in the UK in latest climate change warning. So now that headline... Oh there's your connection! That's the one I liked and like what is this? Yeah so I'll bring up this this is from The Mirror which is another fine outstanding... Another fine standing publication we can be proud of A deadly virus that is killing nearly 50% of patients is highly likely That's your climate change language. To arrive in the UK along with other illnesses spread by insects which are marching north due to climate change. Insects are marching north from climate change? Across the English Channel, even! They're just marching north they're swimming, they're swimming A good movie for people out there who want to see something like this was also a radio play I think it's Rudyard

1:35:48 Rudyard Kipling. Rudyard Kipling, yes? Called the naked... The movie's called The Naked Jungle and it's about... It's a great movie it's about these giant army ants marching north eating everything in their way. It's terrific film! Well they're marching north towards the UK and they're going to swim apparently now... Army ants yeah they did they had this one across a couple rivers Well, the English Channel is not just a river. Anyway... How did it get there? Let me tell you about this disease! It has a great name and- They go through the channel. They can just crawl across. They go through the channel. There ya' go! Yeah, who's gonna stop them?! This is CCHF. CCHF. It has a snappy acronym and it has everything you want in there. It's the Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic Fever

1:36:48 So you got a little bit of Russia in there, Crimea. You've got a little Congo. You've got hemorrhagic fever which is Ebola and Marfans I guess or not Marfans it's the other one Marburg. Marburg? Marburg yeah. Marfangs is what Lincoln had. Princess Marburg yep you got that in there. So you got Crimea, you got Hemorrhagic and Congo! Yep you got it all Wow symptoms may... What a great moniker Symptoms may include fever muscle pain headaches And its caused by bugs Yes, the CCHF virus is typically spread by tick bites or close contact with the blood secretions organs or other bodily fluids of infected persons or animals so you know like it spreads like monkey virus. Damn ticks! Groups that are high at risk of infection are farmers and those who work in slaughterhouses The virus can also spread between people via body fluids Hello gays

1:37:45 You thought monkey virus was interesting. Diagnosis can be made by... Why are you citing gays in this case? Heterosexual couples have body fluid exchanges to an extreme. No, no! Monkeypox only went between men who have sex with men Do I have to remind you of this fact? Fact. Monkey virus only spread between men who had sex with men Now diagnosis can be made by detecting antibodies, the viruses RNA. Uh-huh. There we go! Gotta get that in there. Or viral proteins so now of course there are no FDA or WHO approved therapeutics yet No no no we can't have theraputists you gotta get a vaccine if there's therapeutic you can't have it Oh I'm getting my things mixed up right there. Therapeutic is out. Getting ahead of it

1:38:44 In the past 20 years, CCHF outbreaks have been reported in Eastern Europe. Particularly in the former Soviet Union. Bastards! Russians! Bastards! This one's got legs I think it's got legs there no clips yet but they're coming and they're coming keep your eye on CCHF I think it's one too many letters. I feel good about it, I do! I feel good about this one It's one too many letters... I think Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever the CCHF I can just see it CCHF on the move. Crimean Congo Hemorrhagic Fever. It should be CCH. CCH yeah they can probably do that. I like it. I like it. It's got everything in there

1:39:37 And you bleed out through your butt and your eyeballs. Oh yeah, that's... You have to bleed out through your eyeballs! Yeah otherwise it's just no good! It's no good! Alright, do we have the I mean? I got Russia's I guess in Ukraine. I got a little you crazy Let's do some I got some Ukraine stuff to that This is the one did these I only have two clips you can play the rest of them plays out with yours But whoa okay what happened there? Okay, John oh We have a podcaster down John

CHAPTER 27 / 44 Discussion

NATO Membership Debate for Ukraine and Vilnius Summit

Ahead of the NATO summit in Vilnius, debate intensifies over whether Ukraine should be invited to join the alliance. While some advocates argue Ukraine has "earned" membership through its military performance, others warn that admission during an active conflict would trigger a direct war between NATO and Russia.

nato· vilnius summit· volodymyr zelensky· mccain institute· charles kupchan

1:40:18 Uh, hello? Uh-oh. What happened here? Something happened. Test test test? Yeah yeah let me see... Okay this should be good right here Yes it's interesting I already got a Darren O'Neill sent his resume Yeah that bastard! I knew he would You're like hey man i can do the show that's easy He has it out there ready All right uh Ukraine back to Ukraine clips I'm glad everything is okay It always scares me a little It's kind of irksome that it fell the way it did. Yeah, but now I know that they reset their clean feed right away Okay, you wouldn't have been offed. I wouldn't have been dead for two minutes instead of Right 30 seconds sorry well. It's all good. We're all back to normal all systems okay?

1:41:06 This is really annoying and this is the push to NATO. Leaders from all 31 NATO member nations will hold their annual summit next month in Vilnius, Lithuania ahead of that some members and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky are stepping up their calls for Ukraine to join the military alliance Ali Rogin has the details Poland's parliament today passed a resolution supporting Ukraine's admission to NATO Ukraine in NATO was a contentious issue long before the war began, and it has only accelerated since then. We have now our own debate on when or whether Ukraine should be invited into NATO. Charles Kupchan served on the National Security Council staff during the Obama and Clinton administrations. He's now a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a Georgetown University professor

1:41:57 And Evelyn Farkas was deputy assistant secretary of defense for Russia, Ukraine and Eurasia during the Obama administration. She is now the executive director of The McCain Institute at Arizona State University. Welcome back to you both. Evelyn I want to begin with you. You support Ukraine becoming a member of NATO now why? Ukraine has earned it first of all we gave Ukraine a political agreement back when the international community took their nuclear weapons that we would defend them if they were invaded And the countries that were supposed to defend Ukraine did defend Ukraine, to some extent. But not to the extent that Ukraine expected. Since then, Ukraine has been fighting to uphold the international order, the principles of the sanctity of borders which Russia has violated repeatedly

1:42:43 And frankly speaking, they are now the most capable of the largest, most NATO interoperable battle hardened capable military on the European continent. So from a military perspective, they've also earned it. They've earned it! It's fair and square. They deserve it. A couple of things in there first of all she is with the McCain Institute at ASU Yeah Danger Will Robinson, McCain who went in there with Vicky and with Lindy Hop Lady G Graham handing out cookies the whole My Don Group 2014. They made a coup happen! And secondly this idea that these nuclear weapons that were taken out of Ukraine

1:43:31 were Russian. They weren't made there, they weren't... Thank you! Yes! There were a bunch of Russian nukes that was positioned- they were positioned there they were not really owned by Ukraine if it became a sovereign nation and so they had to pull them out. They just had too because it would be dangerous as proliferation just to let these things exist and it had nothing to do with them protecting themselves with nukes So this is bullcrap Let's turn the tables and ask the guy who is the counsel on foreign relations. He's a Georgetown professor blah blah blah, the whole thing

1:44:07 to get an official, the official take because I think he would be the one with a mouthpiece for the intelligence groups as opposed to this crazy woman who just... and by the way this went on further than i have clips of. And she just goes nuts about yeah they earned it we should load them up and we should... The Russians aren't going to do anything? Their meanings All right, Charles to you. What's your response? Has Ukraine earned it? I'm all for helping Ukraine and doing our best to enable Ukraine to recover as much of its territory as possible hopefully all of its territory but I part ways with Evelyn on the question of whether NATO should open its doors and offer membership to Ukraine at this point President Biden his nano allies are helping Ukraine defend itself

1:45:01 But they're not going to war to defend Ukraine, in part because they've made a judgment that they are not ready to see NATO go to war with Russia. Risk World War Three over Ukraine and we need to keep in mind that if NATO does admit Ukraine and a single bomb were to fall on Kiev We would have a treaty based obligation to go to war with Russia Secondly, I think that we see that this is a war that is going to go on for a long time. We don't know how it will end. We need to keep open the prospect for some sort of ceasefire perhaps and armistice in which we might need Russia to play ball much harder to get them to play ball two final reasons one is there's no consensus in NATO about meeting Ukraine

1:45:49 NATO's strongest suit right now is its unity and I don't think we want to interject this debate right before the summit in July and go into that summit with disunity. See the disunity right there in the program? Yeah, so you have the official opinion And it's gonna last a long time. So in other words, there is no... They're not getting into NATO at this point. There is no way and this war is going on forever so get your pocketbooks out! Luckily NPR is going to give us a breakdown of how the spring offensive is going. Did you know it was well underway, John? The spring offensive. Spring offensive is rocking along! Yes I understand that it's well under way and the Ukrainians are kicking butt Well listen to this just beginning like a minute and a half of this report from NPR my buddy Dave Jones sent this to me

CHAPTER 28 / 44 Discussion

Ukrainian Spring Offensive Progress and F-16 Training

NPR reports that the Ukrainian spring offensive is making limited progress, having reclaimed approximately 40 square miles of territory. Meanwhile, plans have been announced to train Ukrainian pilots on F-16 fighter jets in Denmark and the Netherlands, though the aircraft may not arrive until next year.

spring offensive· f-16· denmark· netherlands· military aid

1:46:49 Now just imagine they're reporting on a soccer match. Crane's plans for a spring offensive as spring turns to summer, where does this effort stand? Well Ari at this point we're a little bit over a week into it It's limited progress Very tough going the Russian troops are dug in and they're waiting with minefields and trenches and air power Every village is being contested. The Ukrainians are trying to advance along three separate lines, one to the east and two to the southeast. They're probably doing best in this middle line. They're working their way down a small river and they've taken several villages along

1:47:30 roughly 40 square miles. So they are moving forward, but it's a slow pace and they have not approached any of the key towns or cities that they'll need to really make this a success." So we have, they've taken 40 square miles. Yes! 40 miles through the middle line, the left line... But they got no towns? It's just 40 miles of empty fields?! That's right that's right and there's more coming. They took 40 miles of raw land. Land it's all about land!

1:48:10 Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah alright to really make this a success Tom what are you hearing? That might be coming to Ukraine from the US and other allies Ari as you noted there was a meeting in Brussels and the u.s.. And its allies pledged more air defense weapons nets of course vital because Russia continues to hammer Ukrainian cities have more missiles for that Patriot batteries and other air defense systems, also more tanks, armored vehicles, shoulder-fired missiles to hit Russian tanks. And finally there are plans they announced to train Ukrainian pilots on the F16 warplane in Denmark and the Netherlands

1:48:48 sometime this summer but no word on when and how many of the aircraft will actually get to Ukraine. And that has annoyed Ukrainian officials and some defense analysts who said we needed these planes much earlier now you're looking at probably sometime next year. Defense analysts they're angry because we can't get new gear fast enough, we need to spend spend spend! So yeah, this is going to be a very long spending process. I think you're completely right You can call it a war Clearly about 40 miles of turf but it's just... Turf? Yeah! 40 miles of golf course It's just here to empty our pockets into the military-industrial complex and enter the spy spook master Richard Engel who has an exclusive one on one One On One Yeah this guy was on...I've been

CHAPTER 29 / 44 Discussion

Richard Engel Interview with Volodymyr Zelensky in Kyiv

NBC's Richard Engel conducted a one-on-one interview with President Volodymyr Zelensky at the presidential compound in Kyiv. Zelensky described the counter-offensive as "generally positive" and warned that Russia intends to target the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant to create global instability.

richard engel· volodymyr zelensky· kyiv· zaporizhia· nuclear power plant

1:49:40 Seeing him on and off. I wish I had some clips, but yeah, I'm glad you got them actually You know we have clip custodians We have clip collectors is a clip collector Steve I think and he got two clips of the one-on-one Ukraine tonight is in a full scale fight to take back Russian listen the sound effects are groovy This is how you do report people put some machine gunfire in there Ukraine tonight Is it a full scale fight to take back Russian occupied land? Does he have a gun battery behind him? What's the deal? Yeah, this is what you do. It's called B-roll. A pivotal moment for our interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the presidential compound in Kyiv We are now in the early days of this long anticipated counteroffensive Yes How's it going? Wait a minute! I thought it was an offensive... Is it always been counter offensive? Did I misunderstand that?

1:50:39 I thought it was the spring offensive, not the... I thought it was an offensive too but we could be wrong. But counter-offensive may be a term they used in there. Alright well, it's a pivotal moment! Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the presidential compound in Kyiv We are now in the early days of this long anticipated counter-offensive How's it going? I cannot give you all the details. There are both defensive and offensive actions Things look not bad. I would say it's generally positive, but it is difficult. Not too bad! Things look...not bad! I love how NBC got this...I mean surely they have better translators on staff? It seems odd that you would choose this guy but maybe it's just me. So defensive and offensive actions...it's for a reason Oh everything's for a reason what do you think the reason is? Okay well let's stop and think about this because this guy is dynamite

1:51:41 He's got the deep accent, he sounds like some sort of Boris guy from a cartoon. He is cartoony! He is very cartoony. These things going not bad...not bad Would you like some Borscht? Things look not bad. I would say it's generally positive, but it is difficult. Our heroic people our troops who are now at the front of the frontline are facing very tough resistance and you understand why? Because for Russia to lose this campaign

1:52:22 I would say it actually means losing the war. President Zelensky also had a dire warning, he blamed Russia for blowing up a dam which Russia denies flooding dozens of villages and tells us the next Russian target is the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant. Russia does want to blow up this station Why would they want to do that? Why, why would they want to do it for the same reason they blew up the dam of course. That makes nothing but sense. Because like with a dam, they are not interested in Ukraine security. They always need instability here and wants the world to pressure Ukraine to stop the conflict

1:53:11 So that is the official CIA message as far as I'm concerned Okay, well one thing. I want to mention Yes, I have a second is that too is that the Russians? Have long since taken over that and that whole area yeah The whole areas theirs and so they would be blowing themselves up if they blew that up and they're maintaining it for a reason, and they could...if they wanted to cause some... They could just turn it off. They don't have to blow it off. Just turn it off? Just turn it off! So this is Ukrainian operation of trying to...they want to attack it or something to get the...I do not know what their up to but this is not... Ukrainian?! Oh come on John! Okay our guys... Catholics in action hello That's okay now I was thinking about this too

CHAPTER 30 / 44 Discussion

CIA Arms Dealing Allegations and Trump-DeSantis Ukraine Policy

The hosts speculate on the role of the CIA in managing the billions of dollars in military aid sent to Ukraine, suggesting it may function as a gray market arms operation. The segment also touches on Zelensky's invitation to Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis to visit Ukraine following their skeptical comments on U.S. support.

cia· arms dealing· donald trump· ron desantis· military-industrial complex

1:54:07 $70 billion worth of American money that's going over there in one form or another and then being distributed to Africa. Is it possible that the CIA, that... There is not too much complaining about this because let us just say the CIA is the middleman as the arms dealer to sell the $70 billion worth of arms or at least half of it, let's say 35 billion for maybe a hundred billion in gray market sales and return that 100 billion to our coffers so the 70 billion investment actually is money well spent. It's an investment. Yeah dream on!

1:54:52 That's all going to the big guy. 10% for the big guy, what are you talking about? We talk to our coffers! When has that ever happened?! Oh here America we just got some money back for you... unlikely Here's the second part of this. He says Russia is getting desperate as more Western military aid is coming today, the US and other allies agreed to train Ukrainian pilots to operate F-16 but it still unclear when they'll arrive and how many you've been talking about planes since day one I remember seeing you in very early days of the war in this building in the basement now there somewhere in the pipeline

1:55:35 Wait, wait stop. What was Engel doing there in the first place? In very early days in the basement! In their very early days in the basement he was getting briefed of course and how come they're not in the basement anymore is my question back to Richard Engel our expert on the ground wasn't he into Maidan as well I don't remember that he was or not, but probably. I remember seeing you the very early days of the war in this building in the basement now they're somewhere in the pipeline what has been the effect of having weapons rolled out like this given slice by slice over time? It's prolonged the war

1:56:26 If we are supplied with the machinery that is currently held by our partners, we will win faster. We also asked about comments from former President Trump and Governor DeSantis questioning American support for Ukraine. President Zelensky invited both to come here and said unless Vladimir Putin is stopped in this country there'll be a wider war with NATO. Ah! There it is yes so doesn't really matter If they're in NATO or not, they're coming. The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming... the Russians are coming... the Russians are coming... wider war it's gonna be everywhere get ready Holland you're next I have unbelievable so a delegation of African nations went to Ukraine and met with President Zelensky

CHAPTER 31 / 44 Discussion

African Peace Delegation and Neutrality in Mainstream Media

A delegation of African leaders visited Ukraine on a mediation mission to address grain and fertilizer shortages. Mainstream media critics, including France 24's Douglas Herbert, questioned the delegation's neutrality because several participating nations abstained from UN resolutions condemning Russia.

africa· peace mission· south africa· neutrality· douglas herbert

1:57:20 And they could do the deal to get those arms down there well it was billed as a mediation mission To get some kind of peace because you know that's right. Yeah, this began a couple weeks ago Yeah, they have you know they got some issues They can't their people can't eat sweet. They want their week yeah, they want their wheat they can't eat But I love the sorghum. I love douchebag Doug from France 24 our favorite He says something here that is just too funny when it came in when it comes to mainstream media

1:57:55 and how they view things, particularly fairness and neutrality. This kind of takes the cake. Speak to our international affairs commentator Douglas Herbert. Hello to you Doug. There are some critics over this delegation some say it's a wrong group and some say it's at the worst time why is that? You're right the critics have been unsparing in that end the critics mainly obviously Ukraine but also in the US Europe members of NATO what have they been saying the criticism ranges from this is a laughingstock mediation mission, mediation in quotes to they have absolutely no leverage compared to the real global powers such as China which could have some bearing on this conflict if it really had the will or political will. To they are not neutral. This is where the criticism is I'll start with we are not neutral plank

1:58:42 You have six nations taking part in this mission, and what's interesting is while more than a dozen African nations failed to condemn the Russian invasion early on – early in the days last year UN resolution. Four of the nations on this mission abstained from that resolution condemning Russia's invasion so you have one of the biggest ones if not THE biggest one South Africa Senegal, you have the Republic of Congo and you have Uganda. Those four nations that is four out of the six on this team refused to vote abstain from condemning. You do have two who are represented in this delegation Egypt and Zambia and they did vote to condemn Russia's invasion so you have this neutrality problem here a delegation whose members are not seen as neutral and at worst

1:59:29 seen as beholden to Moscow for various things from, as you mentioned dependence on grain and fertilizer in the goodwill of Vladimir Putin. So help me understand if there's a vote to condemn Russia and you say You know what? I'm not going to vote isn't that the definition of being neutral That's what neutrality is. I would say that's what neutrality is but no in the eyes of the mainstream media, okay douchebag Doug, you're now a puppet. You're Putin puppet. Vladimir Putin puppet! The whole idea of neutralities...you know what? I'm not for or against anybody in this. I'm neutral that's what Switzerland did. Now we are neutral give us your money. We are neutral

CHAPTER 32 / 44 Discussion

Russian Tactical Nukes in Belarus and F-16 Threats

Vladimir Putin confirmed the deployment of the first Russian tactical nuclear weapons to Belarus. Putin also warned that Russia would target any F-16 fighter jets delivered to Ukraine, raising the risk of NATO being pulled further into the conflict.

belarus· tactical nukes· vladimir putin· f-16· air power

2:00:19 So, this is... it's just so sad. And then of course, you know we got to throw some more nuke fear in there. Vladimir Putin's new statements about nuclear weapons and his possible response if Ukraine receives NATO F-16 fighter jets ABC's Ian Pannel is in Ukraine for us this morning with the latest. Good morning! Yeah good morning Wits that's right the first Russian tactical nukes have now been deployed in Belarus to the north of Ukraine. Who said they're tactical? He's making it up as he goes tactical nukes. I don't even know what that means anymore. Did you just open a can? This is a bottle of Origin sparkling water, Origin. And is it basically just fizzy water expensive with the nice label? You know the label could be better. It's not as fizzy as I like

2:01:12 Alright, back to the tactical nukes. Why does he just say claims? Putin claims it's a threat. That's bad enough, but falsely claims that means he is insincere Does that mean he isn't sincere when he claimed something? Good point! I love your linguistics! ...Russian state... But remember, he invaded Ukraine in the first place because he falsely claimed it was a threat to the Russian state This isn't the first time of course that he has raised the specter of nuclear attack

2:02:03 as a threat in this war, and this deployment is just the first wave with more to come. The Biden administration says it's closely monitoring the situation but for now says there is no reason to adjust America's nuclear posture. Meanwhile Ukraine allies preparing to start training pilots on F-16 and other fighter jets which could be delivered to Ukraine early as late summer Russia saying that it will try to attack those aircraft with Putin warning there's a serious danger that NATO could be pulled further into the war. Meanwhile, Ukraine is saying that it has made further small advances in its counter-offensive and this morning though the British military, the British Ministry of Defence assessing that Russia likely has a temporary advantage in the battles in the south especially by increased use of air power, in particular attack helicopters. Oh! Attack helicopters... That's next one we need some helicopter action

2:02:57 What a scam. This thing is such a scam. You think? What a scam! Scam... I mean, it's an op and a scop It's horrible scam-op. It's just more more more more more And they're getting crappy F16s We know they're not getting the good stuff you have in older f-16s They gotta be taken out of service eventually Yes Well we have to make room for the new ones but New gear Yeah all the defense ministers meeting in Vilnius Oh, yes. Vilnius. Yeah, Vilnius. Let's get some more money. How do we get some money out of there? A lot of shoulder back slapping going on there

CHAPTER 33 / 44 Discussion

Russian Soldier Surrenders to Ukrainian Drone near Bakhmut

A video released by the Ukrainian Army shows a Russian soldier, Ruslan Anatin, surrendering to a drone after his comrades were killed near Bakhmut. The drone reportedly led the soldier across the battlefield to Ukrainian trenches, an event the hosts view with skepticism as potential propaganda.

drone· surrender· bakhmut· ruslan anatin· 92nd brigade

2:03:41 I don't know. All right, yeah that's the end of Ukraine for today That is kind of... wait! Wait, I have one more This is a drone clip It's always interesting to hear a drone clip Tonight new details at the dramatic moment Russian soldier Ruslan Anatin surrenders on the battlefield to Ukrainian drone The drone, yeah he surrendered to a drone. This video given to ABC News by the Ukrainian Army's 92nd Brigade begins with a different Russian soldier running through the trenches amidst fierce fighting near Bakhmut last month. The drone drops an explosive device just a few feet away knocking him to the ground and eventually killing him that's when Anitin emerged from a tunnel in the trenches

2:04:25 Realising he's the last man standing, he uses hand signals to surrender to the drone. Shaking his head and crossing his arms in an X. The Ukrainians attach a note to the drone in Russian saying, Surrender! Follow the Drone! Anitin reads it and appears to ask for his life and won't be killed. The drone moving side-to-side to signalling no he wont He makes a treacherous walk half-a-mile across the open battlefield over the bodies of his fallen comrades. At one point, artillery fire narrowly missing him, the Ukrainians claiming it was Russian fire! Close to Ukrainian trenches he surrenders and is taken prisoner

2:05:04 The Ukrainian is recording this video. He says simply, I am Anetin Ruslan Nikolayevich a soldier of the Russian army. The drone saved my life today. Follow the drone! Can you imagine? Just take out his handgun and shoot the thing follow the drone follow the drone My goodness, and how did it wait? They wrote a note and then flew another drone out there to deliver the note I don't get that note part of this story. It's call-of-duty 7 or something I don't think this is this makes no sense They put a note on the drone followed the drone and it rocked it rock back and forth okay That's a signal. I got to follow the drone

CHAPTER 34 / 44 Discussion

No Agenda Value for Value and Modern Podcast Apps

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak discuss the "Value for Value" model and the growth of modern podcast apps that support live streaming and interactive features. They also mention the "No Agenda Social" Mastodon instance and the community of "producers" who support the show.

value for value· podcasting 2.0· mastodon· no agenda social· troll room

2:05:46 John, this is dumb. I'm going to say it again... Wag the dog! There's some real people dying but it's wag the dog Well the drone story is definitely out of control And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage in the morning to you the man who put the sea on the counter offensive ladies and gentlemen say hello my friend on the other end the one and only Mr. John C Devorah In the morning to you Mr. Adam Curl, so in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feet in the air, stops in the water and all the names of knights out there. And in the morning to all the trolls in the troll room, let's count them for a second. Followed the drone trolls followed the drone 1899 low. Father's Day everyone says it is three day weekend this is uh... It is Juneteenth today tomorrow

2:06:37 Well, it's the 18th today. Well tomorrow is the holiday. Okay so all right So all right so those so it's a holiday three-day weekend and so we get Thursday numbers We should have it should be 23 24 but it's 18 Yeah, so we're down way down and so no one's listening to the show on does we work? We go out of our way to work on these holidays. We do, we kind of do. And nobody cares Yeah I mean yeah it's alright that's show business you know You work on holidays and uh...we don't take sabbaticals or what is it called? Not sabbatical Yeah, I know hiatus hiatus Hi hiatus or the show's on hiatus everybody. We're almost at the end of our season yeah The seasons over we're going in high aides will be back next season you imagine

2:07:27 We love having the trolls with us though. Thank you for the almost 2,000 trolls who hung out and are sitting study with us we appreciate that You can be one of them by going to troll room dot IO That's where you can listen to this live stream. You can hop into the chatroom Of course, you should be ditching your modern podcast app or ditching your legacy podcast app and getting a modern one at PodcastApps.com A whole bunch of them now have this live feature included Podverse, Podcast Guru, Podcast Addict, Fountain, CurioCaster It's growing! The format we've been using for some humble 16 years is now officially in... it's probably like 8 or 9 podcast apps now

2:08:10 And as I said, podcastapps.com You can also follow us at knowagentosocial.com People seem to like using knowledge in a social comm for you know for getting groups together and Organizing themselves and doing stuff which i think is a very good usage of it um I mean I use that kind of as an inbox but from time the time will just go to the local timeline and once you get through the You know, inevitable 5,000 memes because yeah! Oh we have a community let me upload memes all day. Memes! Memes! I have more memes I use a couple of them in the newsletter once in awhile. So, just...I'm not saying they're not good but it's like there are producers out there who must be- That's all they do. All that must be 100 a day. Oh! I got another good meme gotta share with everybody. Most of the memes stink by the way. Most of them are pretty bad but from time to time is a good one But I like it when people organizing and doing stuff together you know that's the kind of stuff I like to see

2:09:10 It doesn't matter. You can reach us from any Mastodon account that does not block us for our free speech, and that's what they call it There are over 400 that block us We're on the blocked list Don't even investigate Just block us just because someone said so And you can figure it out and try it by searching for and following Adam at noagendasocial.com, John C. Dvorak at noagendasocial.com As part of our Value For Value mission which is another reason why we're still here because we are supported by the communite, the communite! The producers...we have no listeners, we only have producers

CHAPTER 35 / 44 Discussion

Episode 1564 Artwork Review and Zombie Town Theme

The hosts review the artwork for the previous episode, "Zombie Town," created by Dame Kenny Benn. The piece featured a bowl of eyeballs, referencing a news story about a Harvard morgue manager selling body parts. Other submissions involving AI Bibles and ESG themes are also discussed.

artwork· dame kenny benn· zombie town· harvard morgue· esg

2:09:49 who support us with time, talent and treasure. And that really is what I mean... Even this morning we've got the No Agenda stream and there's all kinds of shows 24 hours a day seven days a week and Darren O'Neill does the Rock & Roll Pre-Show and you know we do Switchover It's more professional than actual radio network You know it was like Darren says over to you boom! I jack in The stream switches back This is all stuff that other people have done for us Because if we had to pay for it, it would have never happened. Ever! So we're highly appreciative of all these producers who help us out sending a story sending us clips giving us their expertise everybody's an expert at something and one of the expertise is a number of people have

2:10:34 is creating artwork. And we are one of the few shows that has changing new artwork for every single episode, and we like to thank and highlight the artist who does that for the previous episode. That was 1564, 1564 episodes of this show. We titled that one Zombie Town! The art came to us from Dame Kenny Benn which was just a beautiful, a beautiful piece popped like crazy because it had a white background. I love that and it was a bowl full of eyeballs Which now what was the what was the eyeball thing about I can't remember it was it was a story It was the guy at Harvard that was selling body parts on Etsy and eBay Yes The ghoul So it was like yeah guys making 100 grand a year on the side besides being them beheaded the morgue at Harvard or whatever. Oh, yeah

2:11:30 Oh yeah, that's right. It had a little price tag, the little $33 for a bowl of balls. Yeah beautiful. Thank you Dame Kenny Ben. Everyone celebrated this everyone thought it was a great choice there were a couple other things that we looked at I Jcon sketch. You were quite fond of one piece Well the j-con sketch one I thought was kind of cool because even though we didn't talk about it was the eagle American Eagle pierced by an ESG DEI and an SEL arrow Which was kind of a symbolic thing And you pointed out that we had not spoken about ESG or DEI only the SEL social emotional learning

2:12:13 And so that kind of makes that there was another one kinda you like I like the Bible when a little bit is to be AI Bible Yeah, what was that? What was that about again from Nyko said because we talked about AI. Oh Yeah, yeah, I'll be writing a Bible new religion coming yes Then we had some zombie towns Which are okay Was that it Some other AI, we had a dinosaur. AI no agenda...dinosaur Matthew Drobko's deer with the bug eyes made me laugh but it wasn't didn't really make sense It made NO sense And Dame Kenny Benn did give us a chuckle with the blue dress The spotted blue dress With the cigar Is she even titled it Cheap Joke?

2:13:08 Yeah, that was a cheap joke. That was a cheap joke but thank you we got a chuckle out of it and... Was that it? Pretty much I think that was kind of it yeah I mean the one thing there was a couple pieces What was the title of the show? I forgot. Zombie Town. Zombie Town, yeah. I kind of like Matthew Drobko's Zombie Town version 2 of San Francisco Sign but we're going to use... Yeah, we tried to keep it simple. The eyeball art was gonna win so… And you know the other one is Moore D had an AI Bible which is a magic 8-ball. It was a little too complicated

2:13:51 But 8-balls have been a staple, I think of art. Yes! The magic 8 ball has come back from time to time. So... Yep. It's the friend of the show. So thank you dear friends of this show Thank you, Dame Kenny Benn and to all the artists who are always doing fabulous work AI generated or not. I see you comics or blogger We appreciate it You're doing yeoman's work It is beautiful it is a great way to contribute to the show which as you know Is time talent or treasure and we do have some people whose are celebrating Father's Day with us again? And were working on Father's day and They donated their treasure it is Always welcomed and absolutely needed we have no other gigs

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Executive Producer Donations and Father's Day Notes

The first round of executive producer donations includes Bob Millsap, Dame Becky, and Felix Rios. Sir Luca of Walla Walla shares a story about scanning 333 family photos, while Sir Brian Leslie is honored by his wife for his "fatherhood magnificence."

executive producer· donations· surprise arizona· katy texas· walla walla

2:14:33 And we'd like to... I would like to, I was somewhat bewildered by the fact that we got a lot of you know We had our say average donations but for Father's Day. I really expected someone to gift their father and knighthood and nobody did it No no your dads are on the outs man You know that's just a fact of life Yeah fathers no longer need it yeah, I guess I don't know I have no other explanation for it But the ones who did donate love their dads or their, uh...the dads they are married to. So there are some beautiful notes here and we kick it off with our first executive producer we'd like to hand out these titles to

2:15:19 to the top donors and they're well-deserved, and they're real. They are not some phony baloney thing it's an actual title Bob Millsap is in Surprise Arizona and kicks us off at 333 dot 33 and he says Shelly and I need a deducing You've been deduced! Bob says evil covid machine almost got me near death and hospitalized for 53 days December of 21 Oh, I remember this. Tina saw my crazed fight on Instagram and started pulling for me! Thank you, Tina! My book Shake Yourself Free is out now." That's right the Keeper. She was following him she saw that and she was like holy crap and she was definitely lifting him up as much as possible over the Insta. His book Shake Yourself Free is out now. Dane Becky's next on the list. She's in KT Texas

2:16:18 Or Katie, as they now say. Happy Father's Day to Sir Mike of the Great Katy Prairie from Dame Becky! Best husband and father ever! No jingles no karma $333.33 from Dame Becky Felix Rios is in San Jose, California. 333-333 I do not have a note from Felix. I don't see... Yeah, I don't get what...I got nothing. I got nothing either so we give him a double up karma thank you Felix You've got... Karma. Badanda Sir Luca of Walla Walla Washington Walla Walla Walla Walla Good wine growing area by the way ITM Chaps greetings from the southeast

2:17:07 Here's the deal. I just finished scanning my family photo album into a digital format and you will never guess how many photos I scanned! How many photos did you scan? 333, not a joke So here is the donation for $333 which is what his donation is Jingles please Jill Abramson vocal fry Trump dumps Jobs Karma, the Pelosi Trump Joe jobs variety and signed Sir Luca of the Southeast. You know obviously I read The New York Times like all day long mainly on my iPad app They did dumps they call them dumps big massive dumps Jobs Jobs Jobs Jobs Jobs Jobs Let's vote for Jobs

2:18:05 You've got...harma. Note with hopes of being read during the show around Father's Day. Well, there you go It's on father nailed it we nailed it three hundred and ten dollars twenty five dollar donation towards the knighthood of Sir Brian Leslie of Bremalo in celebration of his fatherhood magnificence he He is often perplexed yet always grateful wife would like to acknowledge Brian's stellar wit and verve in taking care of her and their three girls. Would not want to, and literally could not do it without you You are loved." That's a sweet note It's very nice note And the switcheroo from a wife and three girls that means everyone telling him he's wrong All the time

2:19:04 Sir, il Pope de Sicilismo I'm guessing in Rio Verde Arizona the what the green road is a black night actually black. Hello gents Thanks for your outstanding work Please accept this humble donation as a token of my admiration For the sanity pills you provided us on a regular basis Back in early May, I was unceremoniously made redundant at my job despite 12 years of great performance reviews and significant contributions to the company. If you're redundant it means somebody else is doing your job. Why weren't they redundant? Because they got paid less but fear not

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Associate Executive Producers and Small Business Promotions

Associate Executive Producers including Alicia Macomber and Ralph in Miami are recognized. Linda Lou Patkin promotes her executive resume service, Image Makers Inc., while Amy Lynn honors her husband "Dan the Man" for Father's Day.

associate executive producer· indiana meetup· miami· cold spring· image makers inc

2:19:51 Fear not, Monday I'll be back into the slave force as I landed a new job. My wife and I are trying to close this chapter of our lives and embark on a new adventure! I'm in need of house sale karma and general life karma could you please send some my way? As always misbehave and have fun sir ilpopedics Clizz, Eclizmo. Black Knight You got it! That means... well if you want to have that you need a little bit of goat added. You've got karma Then we have a row of ducks for our first associate executive producership and this comes from the Indiana No Agenda Meetup which means they

2:20:36 They collected that and they decide who gets it, sometimes with fun and games. Sometimes... well who knows how they do it? Maybe it's a switcheroo there you go! Associate Executive Producer donation for Alicia MacHomer Let me just do that right now make sure we credit you properly Alicia In the morning John Adam this at this past Indy Noah Jenna meetup I got the chance to look at Mimi's book Too Many Eggs too many books are too many books are too many eggs calm That book is amazing. The size of the book is small compared to the amount of information contained and I love it! It's a big book

2:21:13 I thought it was a in fact when we got it. It was a hey, there wasn't small as hefty Was it and nice doesn't much nice products? I'll be buying myself a copy to keep I am only 22 years old And I love to cook and I practice to become a better cook every day I never knew eggs could be cooked in so many ways In this book will definitely keep my breakfast interesting for quite some time not just breakfast recipes Thank you guys for putting together the best podcast in the universe. I love it when John makes book and movie recommendations, if only he would make a list! I'd like to... Are there lists online? Yeah there's plenty of No Agenda Book Club lists go to gimmo-list dot org i think

2:21:53 I'd like to request jobs karma from my boyfriend Joshua and if i could get a goat karma for my birthday which is on June 18th. Sincerely, Alicia Macomber you got it we're going to do jobs and go together. Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! Ralph, plain old Ralph in Miami Florida. 200 Happy Father's Day to both of you and all the fathers and dads in the Noah Generation please send me some fathers day karma or send some to my dad Ralph senior in Miami yes Ralph in Miami You got it Ralph! You've got Ralph Karma By the way those of you still here The magic numbers are coming up soon In the donation segment along with our special interview Amy Lynn

2:22:48 in Cold Spring, Minnesota. $200 associate executive producership and she is switcherooing that for Dan the Man! And says... oh that's her smoking hot husband Dan the man Happy Father's Day my smokin' hot husband Dan the man You're an amazing dad to our sassy human resource Kaley? Think this is you pronounce it Kaley with an X? K-say-lee I think its Kaley No I think its Shaley maybe? X-A-Y-L-I. Interesting, that's an interesting... That's kind of a cool name Yeah! It's like kind of like an Elon Musk kid name in a way just saying

2:23:26 But that's cool. And thank you for all the support in my new business venture! We love you, your wife Amy Lynn not a stripper. Jobs, jobs Karma! It is a good strippers name. Jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Welcome to the stage Amy Lynn Linda Lou Patkin. There you go, you finally get to do it! This is his first week too. Yeah every week every week in Lakewood Colorado and jobs coming for all your job hunters out there for a competitive edge Go to image makers Inc dot-com for all your executive resume and job search needs Or just find Linda Lou Patkin on the show's executive producer list and run a search

2:24:22 Very nice. Okay, well then she gets karma. She needs jobs karma for her wood. Yeah we can do the jobs karma no problem. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You thought. Oh no... She must be cleaning up on this donation every week at 200 bucks I think it is probably doing good business for somehow which is okay by me but I got no problem with it Oh boy, it looks like something is messed up with my meetup reports. I'm gonna have to look for this... Well good news because we're going to go straight through We do have some meet-up reports and meet our promos No nightings on Father's Day! I know it's a little disappointing but John is going to take us through the hundreds since we did promise to mention all these Father's Day donations and through the 50s And here we go

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Father's Day Donation List and Knighting Ceremony

A long list of Father's Day donations is read, featuring producers from Dripping Springs, London, Chicago, and Nashville. The hosts thank the sustaining donors who contribute under $50 and explain how these contributions eventually lead to knighthoods and damehoods.

donations· knighthood· dripping springs· london· chicago

2:25:16 Frankie T starts us off in London UK on a $56.40 needs to be douching You've been D douche Terry Wins and Langley Washington $150 Lydia Terry B Dolman alley in Clifton Park, New York 133 33 and this is a happy Father's Day to sir geek heretic Crystal Garza in Dripping Springs. Right down the road, Texas right down the road 117 18 and this is a switcheroo credit to Gilberto Garza

2:25:54 He needs a de-douching. You've been de-douched! Happy Father's Day to him. Anonymous in Atlanta, Georgia $101 Dame Becky and Sir Mike in Katy Texas Happy Father's Day to our number one human resource and father of ten grand human... Wow Chris Kinney Chris it is in the mouth okay Chris I served Stuart in Stafford, UK. Stanfordshire, UK to my father Ken who died 22 years ago on Father's Day playing his last game of golf while putting on the par for the 11th hole. Missed you every day!

2:26:36 That's from Sue Stewart. Kevin McLaughlin, Locust North Carolina and he has a Father's Day call out to Boobs 8008! Yes Central Jersey meetup in Parliment New Jersey switcheroo coaster donation from the central jersey meetup for Craig Cutcutchia Christine Calva in Klauna, BC. That's a happy Father's Day to her smoking hot husband Ian Sir Rick in Arlington Washington who are catching his name every time now 6996 O'Rick and congratulations the J for doing that O'Rick Hawkins in Wiener Neustadt in Austria Wiener Neustadt!

2:27:30 Rita Harrington in Sparks, Nevada. 6533 Happy Father's Day John and Adam and all the dads. Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago Illinois 6006. Sir BNA Nashville Tennessee 5993 which is eggs over easy. Sir Brian Tobiasen in Gardner Kansas 5888. Sir Doherty in Stephen City, Virginia. 5678 Happy Father's Day not Jake! Richard Futter in London, UK. Sir Richard 5510 James Edmondson in South Plainfield New Jersey 5510 that's double nickels on the dime Dean Roker 5510 Jennifer Hansen and Braintree Massachusetts 5510 wishing the best dad in the universe Don Hansen happy Father's Day

2:28:26 She loves him very much. Troy Funderburk in Spokane, Washington 55 Baron Henry and Ranchos Palos Verde 52 42 Bart Viken in Haarlem Netherlands He's a man overboard who is back. He says he listened from the early start, lost interest started listening again a few years later bought a couple mugs from the No Agenda store which by the way is before the store and the artists mainly never donated before. You've been de-douche'd. Kala Warnock in Edmonton Oklahoma switcheroo to my dad David Mertens

2:29:09 Toward his knighthood. Love you father's, love you father, Father Pops, Father Day pops we love you and appreciate everything you do John Ford in McKinney Texas 51 for RFK Jr I guess Thomas Balmer in Iowa City, Iowa happy Fathers day to my dad John Balmer 50-05 or 50-50 actually. Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri that's 50-05. Kimberly Burton in Greenville Michigan is fifty with a Father's Day to her husband Jody thank you so much for being a wonderful dad to our boys

2:29:46 Michael McInnes, Iola Kansas. These are all 50s. This is 15th and you're on the birthday list Steven Schumach in Xenia Ohio 50 Peter Odo in Ridge New York Joan Puls in Hernando Beach Florida Nathan Cochran in Hollywood Florida Alexander Verdejo in Gig Harbor Washington Gadget Freak 10 in Western Springs, Illinois. Sir Scott Lavender in Montgomery Texas. Corey Bennett in Denver Colorado Travis Moore in Gibsonville North Carolina Happy Father's Day to the best podcast and all the dads out there Alexis Robles in Chula Vista California John I'm a dude not a lady thanks guys well Lexus is

2:30:41 would probably be referred to as a lady, a lot. I'll try to remember Sir Eric in Murfreesboro Tennessee 50 and wants to give a posthumous Happy Father's Day to his dad Ben you're loved and missed every day Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington. Sir Spud the Mighty in Marietta Georgia. Jerry Ringenroth in Saugus California and last on our list is Baron Allen Bean up there in Beaverton Oregon I want to thank these people for making show 1565 a great show. Thank you very much Yes, we really appreciate it especially for executive and associate executive producers Those are real titles you can use them anywhere the titles are recognized IMDB LinkedIn your resume everything counts

2:31:31 Also, thank you so much to people who come in under $50. You are the ones who are on sustaining donations these are very much appreciated and from time-to-time check in count before you know it you reach that knighthood or that dame hood Thank you all so much for supporting the best podcasting universe episode 1565 Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth What else? Nice little less we got to Ron Chester celebrating today sir Jeff Joe Higg I think he's celebrating on the 20th Ulrich hurt

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No Agenda Meetup Reports and Global Event Promos

The hosts present several meetup reports, including the "Midcoast Maniacs" in Maine and a house party in Kingston, Virginia. Upcoming events are promoted for Tucson, Albuquerque, and Alpharetta, Georgia, emphasizing the importance of community connection.

meetups· midcoast maniacs· kingston· indiana· tucson

2:32:23 And thank you, Sparkles for the chaos. A sparkles of chaos for the art you sent to us very beautiful I appreciated that No one should not be allowed Now it's very important to understand that throughout the years we've created these no agenda meetups, which initially was something John and I would go to when there would be a whole bunch of people getting together. And then you know, we'd hang out and still do that from time-to-time when appropriate and when applicable. Of course it's very busy and yeah, we're old now so it takes a little bit more to get us out of the house

2:33:22 But what happened is this was such a popular idea, people really needed that connection amongst each other. You are a communite, you're part of Noah's generation, people have a lot to discuss and these days particularly after COVID it's needed more and more you need a place to go and hang out with people By the way, people have also met at meetups and have gone on to get married and have kids. This is a great place just to get out you don't have to worry about anything, you can discuss anything nothing is on or off the table there's no condemning of anything everybody can have an opinion it's all beautiful

2:34:01 Very special the way no agenda meetups are run and before you knew it We were doing that on meetups.com And then Mimi was running that and it was that's a horrible service, and then in steps now nights or sir Daniel he created knowage into meetups calm It's become a thing and today we have quite a number of promos and meet up reports and let's go to the mid-coast maniacs first Hey Adam and John, it's Brian from the Midcoast Maniacs meetup. And there were four of us here tonight we're having a great time with pizza and salad from Dame Head Gardener which I'm gonna pass the phone to. Por la mañana it's Dame Head Gardner This is Ivana de Douchebag! D dot douche bag future Dame D dot no too douching

2:34:51 We had a great time we were looking forward to the Scarborough meetup down south pretty soon in northern Massachusetts and another meet up here in the mid coast That's Brian and Susie of course who know them did a personal meet-up with them many many years ago Zombie Town says aloha in the morning everybody sir Ernesto here Head number seven Don't have one. Who is this? Head number seven. What? Head number seven! Where are you? I see you. Alright, and in the morning John and Adam and all know each other nation we're up at the Red 33 Red 33 Casadale red 33 been looking at Bruce Cathy books so check out harmonic 371244 energy grid and uh especially Harmonic 33 Thank You for your courage In The Morning

2:35:45 I'm not exactly sure, but i think we just got brainwashed. I'm not sure exactly what that was about Kingston? ITM getmonation it's the one and only a white mic coming at you from the Kingstown house party meetup oh yes the pillows were fluffed the curtains were steamed champagne was on ice it was a party fit for Queen Ursula herself I even, to take JCD's watch out for the microphones literally strapped a Neumann mic to the ceiling fan so that could add just a little bit of pizzazz. But no one dared show up on stage.

2:36:28 Unfortunately, I get it. It's a Thursday. I'll try some other configurations in the meantime Thank you for your courage Yeah this was a brand new meetup he was trying at his home He we called him a spook of course he's in Virginia and And next time people go to this he sounds like a cool dude and he's got Neumann mics So make sure you check that out now always a good report coming in from the indie folks This is the Indie June Meet up mix This is Dame Maria. And this is Sir Mark. Rain didn't stop us to have an amazing meetup! And Prodigy Burger? Yeah, baby come to Indiana and try it out. Listen up slaves GMO is now called BE for bioengineering Meet the new boss It's the same as the old boss In the morning babe. Not from Indianapolis haven't had six glasses today but it still been good thank you for your courage Hi this is Cindy from Carmel Thank you for your courage in the morning Hello its Christi from Carmel

2:37:25 Hi, it's Brooke from Carmel. Jason from Carmel Sir Betty saying hello to everybody out there! Goodbye In the morning swanning This is Shannon from Fort Wayne in the morning In the morning sir PBR Street Gang John Adam thank you for your courage hope to see you soon Dame Trinity from Fort Wayne having a great time indie thank you for your courage this is serve over the maple and we had a fantastic meetup today great food great company too many beers to come in the morning Johnan Adams this is Nick pretty fantastic time according to Trevor. I would agree, thank you! In the morning this is Alicia good day to have a meetup inside and be a winner of the raffle My name's Maggie Delaney I work at Prodigy Burger Bar and i've been helping serving the No Agenda Meetup group we hope that you guys keep doing this because it's a great thing you guys are doing.

2:38:17 I was wondering how that was gonna end. Nice, very subliminal! Oh oh oh no no agenda Very nice with the Ozempic pilot it's magic tune and i love that you put your server in there That's the best way to do it One more promo! Oh yes Let me guess This would be a promo for one of those guys who'd do a meetup in Georgia because this is the devil went down to Georgia, I think. Hello? Promo start now! Hey North Georgia slaves it's Bob from Cumming come join us this Thursday from 6-8 at Cherry Street Brew Pub at Halcyon for a monthly meetup you can meet your fellow Knights, Dames producers and even some douchebags over nice cold beer look for the table with American flag balloons to find us see ya there

2:39:03 And right now as we speak there's a meetup going on the Berk, the Berkey hooey-hooey at that's Albuquerque New Mexico. That's Sir Jeff celebrating his birthday on the 20th On Wednesday the 21st The Too Hot Tucson Solstice Soiree will be held at Canyons Crown in Tucson Arizona four o'clock Next show day, say hello to Summerpalooza 330 Riverside Park Oshkosh Wisconsin and the North Georgia monthly meetup as you just heard will be at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta Georgia. Those are the meetups but there's a lot more including Batavia Illinois London UK Con France who's doing the con france meeting on July 9th let us know go to NoahJenInMeetUps.com to find out more and remember connection is protection You owe it to yourself to GoToOne

CHAPTER 40 / 44 Discussion

European Vacation Plans and God Save the Queen ISO

Adam Curry announces plans for a European vacation to visit family in Spain, Italy, and the Netherlands. The hosts then select "God save the Queen, man" as a new "In Search Of" (ISO) soundbite following Joe Biden's recent comment.

spain· italy· netherlands· vacation· joe biden

2:39:50 Yeah, it is always like a party. And the Keeper and I are looking forward to... We are going to go on a European vacation this year. I think we'll be doing all the shows as scheduled, might take one off just one for travel day because when you go to Spain or Italy The Netherlands gonna see all the families, old people before they die, stuff like that. Yeah sounds like a Leo trip! Hey that's mean

2:40:39 What do you got for ISOs? I have three. Here's number one. Yes! 5G! Just always can go back to the AJ well, you know or this one Wow i'm impressed Okay kind of good and this is my final one It was all a scam Mmm. Okay, well I've gone to my will let's go with this start with God save yeah God save the Queen man Yeah, man Yes Save the queen man Man man money where's the money? To boo me yes no good and No Kind of think that's the one It's a yeah like it. I mean god saved the queen is god saves the queen man

2:41:28 It's too stupid. It is funny I don't know, I'm torn now What is this God save the Queen man? God save the queen man Maybe you have to use that- No no no no That's gonna get used Yeah okay use god save the queen man I think god save the queen MAN because it just has kind of the man in there is what makes it work Man...man... Crazy Oh um Luckily, we've been missing it. We got another six-week cycle! Did you catch the six week cycle? I can't say that i have A reminder for everybody... And I'm not on the lookout which is an interesting point now that you mention it Well we haven't seen it for a while The sixth well has been a perpetual cycle basically but the 6 week cycle Is something that uh..we were read in on The FBI in particular likes to jack some of our... We weren't technically read in on it

CHAPTER 41 / 44 Discussion

FBI Six-Week Cycle and Michigan Synagogue Threat Arrest

The FBI arrested 19-year-old Sean Pitella in Michigan for allegedly planning a mass shooting at a synagogue. The hosts analyze this through the lens of the "six-week cycle," suggesting the FBI frequently manufactures or escalates threats from marginalized individuals to justify budget requirements.

fbi· six-week cycle· michigan· synagogue· sean pitella

2:42:30 informed by a yes yeah okay informed by a producer. Yes, informed that in order to keep their budgets and their stature and you know their quotas up the FBI every six weeks needs to have some scam has to some have to have some event happen so they still look like they're cool and doing stuff and they usually take some mildly retarded person or someone who's on drugs and you know just and jack them all up and then give him some phony baloney stuff. And then, you know...and of course with social media it got even easier hey man post this yeah what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do come on post me send me a text message put it on Insta! Tonight in court filings the FBI saying social media accounts tied to a Michigan man posted Nazi imagery and sent messages about planning a mass shooting at a synagogue investigators say they received a tip about

2:43:24 those alleged threats. 19 year old Sean Pitella allegedly writing, expletive this world and everything in it I'm going to start making plans soon just got a buy a few more things adding i won't be taken alive I'll make sure of that Federal agents say Pitella traded anti-Semitic messages on Instagram with a friend overseas, writing I just need a camera for streaming and some more magazines. Don't want to run out of mags and have to reload one when FBI agent searched Pitella's home court filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge shotgun, a rifle, a pistol... Unsecured weapons? I like that! That's a new offense

2:44:05 unsecured weapons. When FBI agents... So in other words he had a shotgun without a trigger lock on it? I guess Or it wasn't in the safe, which you know who has those? Don't want to run out of meth! He just had some random shotgun laying around and this is now illegal and you're gonna get thrown in the slammer. A traded anti-semitic messages on Instagram with a friend overseas writing I just need a camera for streaming and some more magazines don't want to run out of mags and have to reload one when FBI agents searched Petella's home court filings say they found unsecured weapons including a 12 gauge shotgun, a rifle, a pistol plus tactical vests

2:44:46 and a red and white Nazi flag on his phone. Agents say they found the name of a Michigan synagogue, and a date March 15th 2024 The same month and day as the New Zealand mosque attack in 2019 that killed 51 people Authorities say Pitella admired the gunman You specifically have to have a threat And also, ideally even a discussion or plan about how you're going to carry it out. The Anti-Defamation League says anti-Semitic incidents spiked 36% between 2021 and 2022 the highest on record in close to 50 years an attorney for Petila declined to comment but investigators say he told them he did not intend on following through with the mass killings He spoke about denying it is fine

2:45:35 there may be a lot of countering information to say well this is not true. I love the Nazi flag addition that's the new thing, the Nazi flag! Yeah but you know they didn't get that right he says it was white and red White and red where's the black? yeah that's not a good flag There's no white and red Nazi flag that i know of There's no white and red in nazi Yep, yeah there. You know it was but when Comey was running the place it was more creative They had better material they did they really developed a guy's they had a better budget I'm not sure what's going on It wasn't no just more creative though just more creative and it was more created is lame And I know that we're gonna do you? I think we should honor this man who

CHAPTER 42 / 44 Discussion

Daniel Ellsberg Tribute and the Pentagon Papers Legacy

Tributes are paid to Daniel Ellsberg, the whistleblower who leaked the Pentagon Papers during the Vietnam War. The hosts discuss Ellsberg's legacy in contrast to modern whistleblowers like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden, noting the shifting media attitudes toward government leaks.

daniel ellsberg· pentagon papers· vietnam war· henry kissinger· nixon

2:46:28 passed away. Tonight tributes rolling in for Daniel Ellsberg, the largely unknown Pentagon analyst during the Vietnam War later labeled the most dangerous man in America by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger all after Ellsberg leaked the Pentagon papers to The New York Times and later, The Washington Post. 7000 secret government pages showing the US Government had been misleading the public about the growing scope of America's role in Vietnam and that the military doubted its chances of victory I stole nothing, I did not commit espionage indicated by the Espionage Act.

2:47:22 citing in part a break-in by the White House plumbers at Ellsberg's former psychiatrist office, seen as a warm up to the Watergate burglary that would bring down President Nixon. Yeah so much for Julian Assange So I got to meet Ellsberg Oh! You did? Nice guy Yeah, I chatted with him at some event they had over here in San Francisco. Larry Lesig brought him into some... Wow! Larry. Good old Larry. So uh..I don't have a clip but there was a great Cape Heart and Brooks little thing because they go on and on about what horrible people Assange and Snowden actually are and Ellsberg is great it was just the funniest thing to watch them switch gears

CHAPTER 43 / 44 Discussion

Iowa Voter Focus Groups and Election Distrust

Pollster Sarah Longwell conducted focus groups with Iowa Republicans for PBS, finding that recent indictments have increased support for Donald Trump. The segment highlights that 100% of the participants in one group believed the 2020 election was stolen or rigged.

iowa· pbs· judy woodruff· donald trump· election integrity

2:48:10 Hmm, interesting. Well that of course is because they got a Republican out you know Pentagon Papers screwed Nixon somehow in the Andrea Mitchell eludes yeah well kinda It was embarrassing us about all it was it wasn't anything people didn't know right I have do you have anything you want to play us out with? I can play us out with a couple of clips from an eye the Iowa meetup that or there was actually this woman she was on PBS of all places Meet up and no it wasn't me. It's a pollster There's a meat up going Iowa has all these meetups before the elections Oh, and so they had

2:48:52 They have these, this pollster is a famous Republican pollsters. She's talking to Trump people and I have three clips and they're worth listening to them. None of them are too long now with now these mega magas? Yeah, but I would say they probably are Iowa pollster PBS Judy Woodruff was in Des Moines, Iowa yesterday for her America at a crossroads reporting project to listen in on a couple of voter discussions led by conservative pollster Sarah Longwell Since it was the day of the Trump arraignment, she made that the focus of the first of two reports on what Iowa Republicans are thinking. This was produced with our friends at Iowa PBS. Yeah we should mention that Iowa is an important state because that always indicates the temperature of the nation

2:49:39 Well, these Republicans are kind of interesting because they seem to be very knowledgeable what's going on and they're very skeptical of everything. They're more skeptical than the average bear it seems to me Here's clip two. Focus group I do with two-time Trump voters, they were very clear that the indictments actually made them want to support Trump more which is really consistent. We've been asking people for several months how does it make you feel when you hear that Trump is indicted? Does it make you wanna support him more or less out of 58 people we asked 26 said it makes them wanna suppor Donald Trump more

2:50:21 only two said less. They're a little bit mixed on whether Trump is exactly the right person to be the person who comes back, but still after January 6th after the indictments, after everything still a lot of support for Donald Trump. They must be Nazis! And the one that, anyway they go on and they talk to all these people. It's very interesting if people can dig it up from last Wednesdays PBS News Hour there and then they had a follow-up on Thursday I would go back and watch that its online now The one that got me though is this This is the last is very short clip where she asked some specific questions and then they raised their hands and I have to say

2:51:03 This is, at least I was shaking my head on this one because it's like wow. That deep seated distrust extended to the 2020 election results and their aftermath too. How many of you believe Joe Biden was legitimately elected president United States? How many of you believe that the election was stolen or rigged in some way? Okay, everybody. 100 fricking percent. Everybody! Wow! Oh that's good. That's good. Stolen! Stolen you election deniers Nazis horrible people Someone sent me a note and said after I heard your comments about Trump on the last episode I'm thinking you're liberal

CHAPTER 44 / 44 Discussion

One Hundred Percent Catchphrase and Show Outro

The show concludes with a critique of the overused "100 percent" catchphrase and a discussion on the pronunciation of "Armistice Day." The hosts sign off with Father's Day wishes and a final end-of-show mix covering topics from Ozempic to NATO.

catchphrases· end of show mix· juneteenth· armistice day· ozempic

2:51:50 What? Yeah. What did you say?! I don't know! You're a liberal. No, I don't think so Oh, speaking of 100 fricking percent. Great comedian I wish i had his name here on this clip 43 seconds you know this is my pet peeve everyone say a hundred percent one hundred percent that's a hundred percent instead of saying absolutely clearly all the way definitely spot-on Instead of yes people often say they don't say yes but they say hundred percent Like I ask a question and they give me statistics Instead of yes, they give me the percentage of yesness And it's always hundred Sometimes it sounds stupid like

2:52:53 Like, did you pay taxis? Yeah! 100% Well I think you paid too much Thank You Not the only one noticing this insanity Luckily Ah well happy Father's Day to you John And Happy Father's day to you and Happy Father's day to all the fathers out there. You do important work. You matter your seen your heard We have end of show mixes from See who did this one. I wish I knew

2:53:32 It's the Armistice Day. We have Dee's Laughs, we have Tom Stark weathered the first one up un-edited by the way his first mix and Jesse Coy Nelson and on no agenda stream we've got The Hog Story it's John Fletcher and Dame Carolyn Blaney they'll be playing with their barbecue toys and coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where Tomorrow's a holiday. I'm John C. Dvorak Yes, enjoy your Juneteenth everybody and please do remember us at dvorak dot org slash na We'll be back on Thursday with another media deconstruction just for you until then adios mofos ahui hui and such

2:54:28 And now I'm standing next to the president again, next to a collapsed bridge here. He is here to commit to work with the governor and delegation to make sure that we get this fixed quick fast as well too This is a president that has committed to infraction and then on top of that kind of a law of the infraction bill that is going to make sure there's gonna be bridges all across like this, all across America getting rebuilt.

2:55:14 was arm am I saying it right? Arm-itist. No, not being able to say that. What is it?! You'll never say...I can't get it now! As soon as you said it, I visualized the word and then you started... Arm-itist. I said it right! Arm-itist. There ya go. Arm-itist. Yes it is! What? A-R-M-A-T-I-C-E. Armistice Day, Armitice! Armitice! Does it sound right to you? Yes it does now. That's where they signed the armitis agreement. It's armistice. Armistice, you're right. Armistice. Armistice day! You're watching people losing on... Armitice day.

2:56:00 can accompany these medications, can trigger temporary hair shedding and hair loss. The hair follicles can shrink and produce thinner and shorter strands and this can lead to certain patterns of hair loss male pattern hair loss, androgenic alopecia misuse can cause progressive hair loss that could become permanent. You have to treat the whole person and that's what this headline is really about. Oh, well done! Well done you've debunked the stupid headline Dr Jen keep on taking your ozempic people nothing to see here it's all good yeah when your hair all falls out your bald as a billiard Don't worry about it. At least you're thin! And... Fox and Tucker crossing the split, CNN told Don Lamond, yo that's it pineapple on pizza is fine by me point of personal privilege and preference indeed

2:56:50 Kamala Harris I swish as high as a kite NATO pushes the Ukraine to keep putting up a fight Top your clip, stop-stop stopping the clip Love this show even when mommy and daddy fight Elite assholes think about what you think about Roy Wood was good at The Correspondents White House Comics nowadays lean into the culture war forced to play no longer just for laughs me or more Intentional weight loss at a loss for word Obesity's out of control, his epic face is absurd Out of control So many drugs to name Eli Lilly and diabetes drugs are now ingrained 30% all in on this huge habit shot Stress test the public in mass formation Is what we got from the outside K-pop feels like a Psy op

2:57:35 Politics is show business for ugly people I mean, why not love the trolls? It never gets old 1800 on Thursday 24 on a Sunday Stick around for the donations Don't run away The trolls are in the troll room and there's a lot of them which is nice Yes, I'm gonna write it down on my sticky note. I have it now Now I know what it is It's a lovely June 18th, 2032 and celebrity trans species influencer Zsa Zsam Duck Frog Goat gets a surprise call at home. OMG! It's President Big Mike with powerful words of support. What's going on? Tell me what's on your mind

2:58:20 I mean, you know, I am just so proud of you being just an amazing role model and embracing your truth. You're already doing this, so maybe this is for some other young people that are listening. At your age or in the teenage years and probably through your 20's, you're going to be experimenting with so many versions of yourself right? Next up, Vice President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Cortes Cortez Cortez speaks with a trans would block. God save the Queen man