Amanda Knox Knockers

00:01 They do not know this is gonna happen. I'm telling you, this is gonna be weird. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's December 6, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 154. This is no agenda. Acting as your last line of defense against the lamestream media and coming to you from the Minimum Security Containment Cell, Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco, California, In the morning, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where they've predicted rain for the last two days and of course it hasn't rained, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Ayy.

00:40 They predicted rain on Friday. Oh, it's going to rain Saturday. It's going to be raining all weekend. Funny how they can be wrong about that, yet so right and the science be in about climate change. Global warming. Let's get that straight. Global warming. So I was watching Al Gore, he was on Letterman, it was a rerun earlier in the month I guess he was on. The guy is apt, you know, I'm starting to be... You're starting to hate the guy, aren't you? No, I don't, I find the guy distressing, but he is really, I mean, I'm beginning to think maybe David Icke is right. That he's reptilian.

01:16 Gore is you see this day. He looks like he's gonna. He looks like a turtle for one thing. He looks like he's gonna Bite let you know at some point is his mouth gonna open real wise he's gonna bite Let him his head off big tongue is gonna come out. Yeah, no I know it already looks like he ate himself look how huge he's become well He's actually lost a little weight apparently, but whatever the case is he still got you know He looks like it. You know he has a reptilian look and he jerks his head around coughing Godly like and so I don't know I'm gonna take up drinking more because I hear the whole thing is He might actually be the Geico gecko because David Ike is nuts You know David Ike has has a lot of very valid points I've never really gotten into the whole reptilian thing but I too must admit when I when I look at many people within our government

02:07 You know, maybe it's just like a lot of people on television have the same look, like big heads and stuff. Maybe just politics is they just all have that reptilian stylings. Look at Kissinger. Yeah. And the thing is, you know, these guys, they live forever. I mean, we don't really know how old Kissinger is. No, he's probably 130. He has been around for quite a while, hasn't he? Yeah. Didn't Al Gore, did I misread this that Al Gore just picked up a Nobel Peace Prize? Did I miss something or... Or did he actually pick up the statue or... I don't know, maybe, I don't know. There's been so much... What are you talking about? I have no idea. Let me see, I...

02:58 Because, you know what, right now if I look at my list of stuff, of stuff, and I've been collecting stuff all week as usual, even though I was in Pennsylvania, same time as the president by the way. I didn't know that. It's all ClimateGate stuff. That's the most, so of course there's a lot of Al Gore stuff in there. And by the way, interesting thing happened in Pennsylvania. I actually flew into Newark as you know we had that horrible show on Thursday with a connection from the lovely Crowne Plaza at Newark, I'm sorry Liberty Airport, Liberty International. I can't call it that, it's still Newark. Newark Airport everybody. What? They changed the name from Newark? You didn't know that? No, I had no clue. Yeah, they changed it like 2002 I think. It's Liberty International.

03:48 However, anyone who seems to fly into Liberty gets incarcerated. That's where they always pick people up. Remember the guy who exposed the Goldman Sachs flash trading code? If you come into Liberty, that's where your liberty is taken away, which is kind of the joke, I guess. So, the president was touring, I guess he went to Allentown, and I didn't know this. So, I don't know if the security was beefed up or if it's always like that at Philadelphia International. Two things of note. So as I'm rolling up to the TSA security, you know you have like the airport security which is not TSA, it's just airport security and apparently their job is to precondition you as to what you can and cannot do. And they have this whole script now, you know, it's like no water, no coffee, no milkshake, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And their only real task in life it seems is to check and see if you have a boarding pass in your hand because, ugh, please don't enter the line without a boarding pass.

04:47 Right? Yeah. Now at Philadelphia International they have an expert traveler line. They found this to be highly interesting. It's a black diamond line which of course for you skiers... This is not just new. This bounces around. They had one in San Francisco for a while then they took it out. Then they had one in Oakland for a while and they took it out. Well, and it's a total farce because I of course I look at the sign I'm like, yeah that's me. You know it says a number of things like you travel frequently, you know you travel lightly. And you also have, it says you are a premium flight member. Like well I got all kinds of premium cards. And then I'm behind a guy who's like oh I gotta get rid of my bottle of water. And I actually say to him, I say oh excuse me sir you are clearly in the wrong line. This is for expert travelers only. So guffaw guffaw.

05:38 But the the the the airport security troll the the person who checks your if you if you are in possession of a boarding pass Right there. By the way, there's a variety of you did nothing talk about inconsistency You they have this, you know a little UV light they flash on you. No, that's that's that's the TSA I'm talking about the the actual security that is the private security firm that works at the airport and who stand in before you get to TSA security and so now and this person was saying some very interesting things. First of all, please get rid of all of your liquids before you enter the checkpoint. This is new John. They are now calling it a checkpoint. It used to be. Checkpoint Charlie up ahead. Yeah, yeah it used to be and I've and I looked at the TSA website and they are now I don't know if it's changed but now I see they're also calling it a checkpoint.

06:32 And it used to be just, you know, airport security, TSA security. No, it's the checkpoint. But then the kicker, the kicker is this person, this waste of human space, waste of carbon emissions is telling me, before you get into the checkpoint line, make sure you get rid of all your coffee. You must also take your Ken dolls out. I'm like, my Ken doll? I gotta take my Ken doll out of my bag? Your Ken doll? Is that what he said? Yeah, that's a cheat. Your Ken doll. I'm like, is Barbie okay? It's such a bonehead.

07:10 It's a kindle you douche a kindle She was probably at the meeting in the morning And they said we're gonna start checking for kindles now, and she heard Kendall. She was actually saying that and all Everybody we got your Kendall Lovely so it was a total you must and you will obey experience And I hate it when they touch my shit too. You know, I put my shoes on top of my jacket and my belt and all other pieces of clothing in one little bin. And I hate it when they just grab my shoes and put them on the belt. What sense does that make? Why do my shoes have to go through separately on the belt? I don't like it. Don't touch my shit. That's only, you know, I've seen that that happens here and there. This is another one of these inconsistencies.

07:58 You know, they put the shoes on the belt and sometimes it's like you put the shoes on the belt, they put it in the bin. You put the shoes in the bin, they say, put your shoes on the belt. You fool! Slave, shut up and do as I tell you. Yeah, inconsistency. Yeah, that's, I agree. That's probably the worst, the worst part. I'm glad you enjoyed the experience. Oh yes, no I enjoyed it very much. I have to say I flew US Airways, haven't flown them in quite a while. Nice, nice new planes. Zero frills. They've got no onboard audio, no video. Yeah, you might as well fly in an army plane. It was a brand new Airbus A321 which was nice and I upgraded for... Here's a trick for all of you passengers.

08:49 When you travel, and I've done this on United and now also in US Airways, what you want to do is check into the premium or first class self-service desk. Now don't be intimidated by signs that say first class only. Just walk right up, check in on that because that's where you actually get, I believe, better offers. I upgraded for $15. $15. Wow, that's a steal. Yeah, it's a major steal. And you get and there's no line you don't have to wait like a sheep, you know And then you know, it's not like you're gonna get arrested and then the person will just cuz they're just zombie boss They're just waiting for some, you know piece of paper to spit out to grab your bag because I always travel with one check piece of luggage and

09:30 They don't say anything like, oh I'm sorry you can't be in this line, you're not a first class passenger. Just ignore all that. And if you're traveling United, from San Francisco in particular, do not, I repeat, do not pay for the premium security line, because that line is twice as long as the regular one. They're charging you to wait longer. It's the stupidest thing. I love it. Ah yes, yes, fabulous. So I'm doubly happy today. Oh, what because you're back in the Bay Area back? Well back in the in the compound in the crackpot command center first of all, you know Mickey's been away for two weeks and I'm flying to Los Angeles tonight and when I get to see her again, so I'm very happy about that. Yeah, but also I I still had a nice day yesterday where I spent a lot of time reading through stuff preparing for you know preparing for the show. I love it. I love all of them and a knock story what

10:30 Uh-huh. See anyone listening to this dream can see it. They would yeah, what Amanda Knox Yeah, talk. It's funny that you wouldn't know that this is the this is the drawback for you not living in London. Okay, I This is all over the maybe I do know about it, but I just don't recognize this is the dump that did kind of the ding-a-ling from Seattle this chick arrested two years ago in Italy for for being part of a satanic And she she killed she and her boyfriend killed killed a girl there was a really good outstanding CBS And now, back to Real News. This totally falls in the Real News category, John. Yeah, but it does, but it will stream, it will morph. Okay, talk to me. Because I have some points to make. First of all, they're all kind of hot looking. The guy's a real nerd, he looks evil, but those two girls were pretty hot looking. Well, one of them's dead. So anyway... See, that's a hot looking now, but... CBS has, did us 48 hours on it, and this girl's obviously being railroaded.

11:31 Now that said, everybody knows that the family was just upset about this whole thing because this girl is kind of a pot-smoking ding-a-ling from Seattle. And she was classically naive and got caught up in a situation where you have a prosecutor who's actually under indictment for all sorts of misconduct. according to CBS. And he's the one who made up these stories about the satanic stuff and fed it to the British press and they ran all of this stuff. And so the whole thing is a scam of some sort. But it's not, you know, it's kind of a nothing to see here kind of thing when we were watching it because, you know, we can still recall the fact that Kern County has a similar prosecutor who's still in the job as far as I know. And there was a documentary done about Kern County and the fact this prosecutor made up a bunch of stuff about

12:24 cults and satanic pedophile cults and they were railroading citizens of the area and apparently still... Well you know my theory on that is that justice and other government officials who are the actual cult sex fiends and pedophiles, that's why they do it. They want to distract attention away from themselves and railroad other people. Well, the point is that we have enough kangaroo courts in the United States to keep people busy forever. And of course, if you follow any of the imprisonment issues, we have more people per capita in the United States in prison and we actually have a bigger total of people in prison than China has. We have over 3 million people incarcerated, cost $40,000 a year per inmate. It's a huge business and these jails are privatized.

13:17 And the jails are privatized so it's in their best interest and so you have to imagine if you're in the business of having privatized jails, you say you're one of the companies, you will have lobbyists to promote, you know, harsher prison sentences, you promote three strikes, you promote all these things that load up the prisons because the prisons are essentially cheap labor for all sorts of things. And this I think relates to, you know, those four, no, five cops who were shot in Washington? Four. Four. Four cops were shot in Washington. I believe, and of course I don't think they've actually found this guy and that was a whole bundle. They found him and shot him. Oh shit. Alright. Well then they found him and shot him. But what's going on here is people are getting very angry at law enforcement. They're tasing everybody left and right. You know, they're not on the right path. I was at Starbucks here on 2nd Street yesterday.

12:24 cults and satanic pedophile cults and they were railroading citizens of the area and apparently still... Well you know my theory on that is that justice and other government officials who are the actual cult sex fiends and pedophiles, that's why they do it. They want to distract attention away from themselves and railroad other people. Well, the point is that we have enough kangaroo courts in the United States to keep people busy forever. And of course, if you follow any of the imprisonment issues, we have more people per capita in the United States in prison and we actually have a bigger total of people in prison than China has. We have over 3 million people incarcerated, cost $40,000 a year per inmate. It's a huge business and these jails are privatized.

13:17 And the jails are privatized so it's in their best interest and so you have to imagine if you're in the business of having privatized jails, you say you're one of the companies, you will have lobbyists to promote, you know, harsher prison sentences, you promote three strikes, you promote all these things that load up the prisons because the prisons are essentially cheap labor for all sorts of things. And this I think relates to, you know, those four, no, five cops who were shot in Washington? Four. Four. Four cops were shot in Washington. I believe, and of course I don't think they've actually found this guy and that was a whole bundle. They found him and shot him. Oh shit. Alright. Well then they found him and shot him. But what's going on here is people are getting very angry at law enforcement. They're tasing everybody left and right. You know, they're not on the right path. I was at Starbucks here on 2nd Street yesterday.

14:10 And I see a van driving by, not even a van, like a, you know, one of those all-purpose, you know, like a soccer mom van, one of those things. Yeah, a van, I guess. And it's driving up and there's two black people in there and they look middle-aged and a cop pulls him over on 2nd Street. Woo! For no reason. Except just, oh, you're black people in a nice looking van. I gotta stop you. And then this guy gets out. And you could see the whole scenario and everyone at Starbucks was saying the same thing. Look at this, these people just being harassed by this cop. And so people are angry at law enforcement. And of course, not all members of law enforcement are evil and bad. And I know and I have known many, many who are completely on the up and up. But man, if you think the sheeple of Gitmo Nation are being indoctrinated, what do you think about law enforcement? It's horrible. So undoubtedly, people are getting 70 years for, you know,

15:09 For smoking marijuana three strikes go to go to jail for life. You know people are getting pissed off Well, it's getting ridiculous because the product you create this weird situation where you have so many people that I get incarcerated They can't get work when they come out And so they have to go back to jail. It's almost like the jails is their new job. They're kind of stuck with it because let's face it, especially in this economy, you're going to be hiring people and you got three candidates. One's just a recent college grad that can't get working. Another guy's a very experienced, but he's a criminal. He just got out of jail. You're not going to hire him. He's never going to get a job. Let's face reality. There's no way of putting him back into the normal structure of society. So he goes back to jail because he has to steal something.

15:52 And the next thing you know, he's back making license plates or some dolls or whatever they do in some of these places. There's a lot of this is documented on the internet. It's become a lifestyle. Yeah, that's a lifestyle. There's also slave labor. They were always accusing we're great at ball in China. They use slave labor and prisoners. We're the ones who do that. We use slave labor essentially to make products but with privatized prison system. It's ridiculous. What kind of products do we make? I mean, license plates of course. No, no, there's a bunch of stuff. I can get you the document. We'll post it on the show notes. There's all kinds of products made by all sorts of companies.

16:28 Using prison labor is actual come so it's not like like state-run stuff, but actual companies are using prison labor. Yeah, oh, okay It's it's an untouched scandal. Oh that we should definitely look into that John I'd love to know which companies are doing that we'll do that and we need to call him out So let's get back so back to the Amanda Knox scam back to the hot chick I Yeah, she's moderately hot if she has a she has I've been alone for two weeks. Okay, never mind So anyway, I have a clip And this is the kind of the point that I would like to but this can almost boring on a pet peeve But it's a you are would you like the jingle? I'm happy to play it. Yeah All right

17:16 It's probably less of a pet peeve than it is a warning to people, but play the Amanda Knox clip. This is from the CBS show that ran last night. And by the way, you can go see this online. I would recommend watching this because it's very eye-opening. On her MySpace page, Amanda Knox called herself Foxy Knoxy and bragged about having multiple sex partners. This picture, taken at a military museum, became ammunition against her. On Raffaelli's page, he expressed a fascination with serial killers. I know that the police have been looking at these websites and taking apart everything that these two have said. To a certain degree, they haven't done themselves any favors by putting this stuff on the web for all to see. Okay, I'm going to go delete my Facebook, my MySpace and my Twitter accounts immediately.

18:11 That's what I would recommend and let me just make a couple of points here which before we get into some of these other topics I don't understand that we've talked about this before about the people who put their you know kind of personal insight information on the internet for all to see and whether it's for all to see or even when it's it's Separated out if you've ever been in the you know, I work for a government agency. I've done expert witnessing I've been in front of a lot of lawyers. You don't say I And you want you want you you you if you've ever been deposed especially by some of the big oh It's frightening when you're when you go through deposition you you actually think you're guilty These guys are so good. You sit there go like oh crap. Well if you look at it that way well yeah, I understand what you're saying, but So let's go through a I have to stop you for one moment

19:05 We do have a good executive producer again this week. We have We actually have, uh, I'm doing it different this week. Thank you, Net Pierre, for reminding me, by the way. It's not like I'm like Todd Simmons. Hey, wait a minute. Haven't we Todd with Todd Simmons? Just keep it. Keep it. Give us more and more money from eight planes, eight mile planes, Queensland, $220 and 22 cents. Okay. He's on a roll.

19:43 Well, he is actually the associate executive producer because he was topped. Oh no, wait a minute, so... By another Australian. Of course! It doesn't surprise me. and the this week's executive producer top billing is Richard from Tasmania does he have a last name or is it just Richard? no last name not gonna give it is TASmania or TAC? TASmania from Tasmania Australia he is a gave us 260 Nice. And he has a message which we'll talk about during the call out of all the donors. Thank you very much Richard from Tasmania and Todd Simmons. You will get billing on the website. Yes, you get billing on the website and of course you can put it on your CV, on your resume. We will vouch for you and it is a real deal. It will be recognized in media circles.

20:43 Congratulations. All right, so let's get back to this issue about these people who put too much personal information on the web that can be misinterpreted. So let's say I've been railroaded and I'm stupid enough to have this huge Flickr account. Right. So I have pictures of everything I do because I really like posting all these things and I like my friends to see this. Now, let's say I have a picture of myself cooking up a big steak on a barbecue that just the fire is way too hot. Right. And I've been railroaded into being a arsonist.

21:19 Right, then of course, yeah, the media will grab that. So I got the fire, this guy's a fire bug. And even if you look at this, there's a picture and the picture that was with this Amanda Knox, she was in some war museum and she was holding it. She was behind this huge machine gun with a big mouth wide open. Just a goofball shot is what it was. But they picked this up and made it look like she's an idiot, you know, like a psycho. So anyway, no matter what you do, you can't get around the fact that they say, you know, the lawyer would say, are you proud of your photos Mr. Dvorak? Do you really enjoy posting them? I say, yeah, I mean, I post them for whatever reason. So you are proud, you are proud. What do you think of this? What is this photo with all this burning?

22:04 Is this something you really like to show off? You like to show off all this burning? Well, no, it's just a picture somebody took I posted on the Flickr account. Oh, so you weren't proud of it. So you're embarrassed, you're humiliated, you really think so, is this some hidden deep secret you have, you're having problems with, like desires to burn things? And you know, you can just twist anything. And then the worst part about Flickr, by the way, if you want to put all your personal stuff up there, If I had the same exact situation but I kept my pictures private, that would make it even worse. Oh yeah, because it was behind a secret passage. Trying to hide it? Are you trying to hide the picture of what? Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. You're trying to hide the pictures. I saw this happen myself, John, where I took a picture while I was flying, I was piloting the Delta Sierra.

22:50 And I had one of my rolled up tobacco cigarettes in my mouth. You know, that's what I love my own plane is, you know, I'll have to eat it soon enough. But I love I love the plane. It has ashtrays for a reason. It's my freaking plane. So I smoke in it. I love smoking when I'm flying it. It makes me feel like I'm yes, it makes me feel like I'm above everybody else. who is flying commercial and can't smoke. And that picture was taken and public, of course I sued the magazines because that is a good thing about Flickr is they have built-in creative commons copyright, right? But that was taken and turned around into, oh Adam Curry's smoking dope in his airplane and it's like, huh? It's the same thing.

23:30 Only not in a court of law. Thank God. Yeah. Well the point Yeah The point is is that this can stuff can be twisted and people like to put goofy things up on the internet? Especially people in their 20s or their teenagers and these things can all be used as evidence I'll tell you the worst the worst and this is comes right back to what we're talking about here is pictures of your kids be very very careful what pictures you publish of your kids because because that can be taken out of context so quickly and there's so many people ready to pounce and say, oh you're a sex offender, oh you're a pedophile, oh you're doing weird things with your kids. We gotta take your kids away from you. Never put pictures of your kids up online, ever. Don't put anything up. Well, unfortunately, this is my life.

24:18 But you'll come and bail me out, right, John? You'll vouch for me? Yeah, well, it depends on how much money is in the PayPal account. Dick. That's my friend. That's my buddy. But it might be more interesting with, you know, but anyway, the point is, is that this girl's being railroaded, but the naivete of the public regarding the legal system and how they'll use whatever they can, whatever leverage they have And if it's some picture, and by the way, the other thing about Flickr, I use it all the time as a intelligence gathering mechanism for due diligence. Say I'm gonna meet somebody, or there's somebody I wanna find out about, if they're in a certain age group, I know they're gonna have a Flickr account. I can look it up, and they have a search engine that's fantastic, and I can see who they're hanging out with, because I have pictures of them in the bar, at the party, every other week, or they're at some party.

25:07 You know, I'm a partier, huh? You like partying, huh? Seriously, you know what? Some other thing is very dangerous. You know, I took I published one picture of you in your kitchen and luckily some smart people told me, hey man, you might want to watch this because, you know, I took this with my new iPhone. And they said, hey, you know, in the EXIF data, the GPS coordinates are being published. Oh. So I turned off all the GPS coordinates. They're no longer published, but you can't actually strip it out. Once it's uploaded, that's it. You can't take it off Flickr. You can't say, you know, you've got all these privacy settings, yet there's no privacy setting for GPS data. I'm like, well, that sucks.

25:56 Anyway, if some fans show up I'm showing up all the time Show up. They're here now. All right, sir. That ladies and gentlemen is the John C Devorah So anyway, so they're railroading this poor woman and It's it's but it could happen here. I mean it does happen here. We have we're worse than they are. Yes. Oh So get off, you know get off these websites. There's no reason there's you know, there's another one of these excuse Oh, I'd like to put all my stuff on the air. Why don't you store your photos on Flickr? Well, you know ladies and gentlemen cheap. Hey, there's a Just want to mention no agenda. The Canadian version will be up on iTunes tomorrow a couple of there was it look like 15 year old kids up there in Canada who asked for our jingles and and They're putting to write a show

26:54 I can't wait. A kids version of the Noah Jenner show should be funny. I love it. Parents, this may not be safe for consumption. It's a kids version. I can't wait. I bet you it's going to be awesome. I wonder who's going to play the crackpot and who's going to play... I wonder if they're going to do like the balance. So one of them is me, one of them is you. That's pretty frightening. So the one thing that we haven't really mentioned or pointed out and it became kind of abundantly clear to me over the past two days I've been reading around and prepping for the early service today is that most countries in Europe do not yet realize the wrath that is upon them as of December 1st 2009

27:38 where the Lisbon Treaty has now gone into effect and what started out as kind of a cool way to have the same money has now turned into the United States of Europe with a president not elected by the people, with the Minister of Foreign Affairs and we heard... what's his face talk about that on the previous show? The guy I like so much. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, whatever his name is. Anyway, Baroness Ashton. who in effect, you know, she's calling a lot of the shots. The citizens of the United States of Europe do not yet realize what is going to happen to them as now what I've been predicting, what many people have been predicting, all of these European laws are going to start raining down on them. And this became apparently clear when I was reading some comments on some Telegraph article in the UK.

28:34 and the fine citizens of the United Kingdom are saying, oh you know, it's not a big deal, it's like, if we don't like it, we'll just pop out of the EU and we'll just secede. That's a good one. You do not understand what has actually happened here. That's what they said in South Carolina before the Civil War. Exactly. Civil War, that's the main thing. You do not understand what has actually taken place. And as I read the Lisbon Treaty, One of the and as all these links are in the show notes, of course at no agenda show calm I said that there's a real problem with the human rights issues because you have to read all of the side notes and all of these different protocols that are not actually in the main document but are referenced in the main document. And my main one was the death penalty where according to the Lisbon Treaty, the death penalty is outlawed in the United States of Europe unless, see protocol XYZ, you read that protocol it says

29:32 If you are running away from the police and they shoot and kill you it will be a valid kill a clean kill so in the Netherlands which is now a proud state of the United States of Europe and was a guy who Look, he was a bad guy because he was he was a burglar and he broke in somewhere in in the mid-southern part of the of the Netherlands in in Brabant and so the cops show up and He runs away, and they shoot him. The guy's running aw- I mean, aren't they supposed to like run after him, you know, get all units involved? No, they just take aim and shoot him. Now, they got him in the leg. But this is- this is new. This is very new. This is new. This is new, and a new way of apprehending people. Hey, you gonna run away with me? I'm just gonna shoot you. Boom. Yeah. Yeah. You got a problem with that? Yeah, go away. Yeah. Stop, you burglar.

30:31 So, and this is, you know, I'll give you, I can give you so many examples of what is going to come down. The wrath is upon you and do not think that you can secede from this union. You have no power. You've given it up. You've given it up to a bunch of unelected people's reptiles, I should say, in Brussels. They are now going to run your life. and we have some experience with that here in the United States of America we know how that works it's not fun but at least we pretended we elected our president yeah but we've at least got it so it's workable they're never gonna... yeah it's workable it's workable they'll never get it to work we've been amazed at the amount of listeners we have from Australia and

31:20 So I've been conversing with a lot of our listeners slash producers and they say, well, first of all, we down here in Australia, we don't like being told what to do. And boy, that's apparent, but man, they are really getting it. This is the RSPCA, which is the animal protection agency in Australia, is now enacting into law that if you do not walk your dog every day you can go to jail for five years. But if the dog doesn't want to go for a walk? No, no, no, it doesn't matter and you can have a backyard, you can have your dog running around the backyard, whatever you want, that's all fine. But you have to walk your dog every single day. If you don't walk your dog every single day, you can be fined and thrown in jail and this is going into law.

32:14 And this is the precedent. You know this because they hate dogs. They hate people. You know, make people with that what would maybe get a dog but they can't walk him. What about an invalid person who can't even get out of the house and the dog is there as a companion? No, then you shouldn't have a dog. Then you should not have a dog. That's what I'm saying. They'd rather have the invalid person suffer. Yeah, exactly. Then you should not have a dog. Walk the dog or FaceTime behind bars. $12,000 Australian dollars. Why do we get so much money from Australia? I'm telling you, and there's so much going on. They also have, you know, I was amazed that there's 350.org, which, you know, 350, I'm not entirely agreeing with what they stand for,

32:54 Because they believe that we should only have 350 parts per million CO2 in the atmosphere. Yeah, they're all scientists. Yeah, exactly. But at least they're against the stupid legislation and they're trying to get the world to sing in perfect harmony. You know, they're totally against cap and trade, which is a good thing. That's where the riots are going to take place and that's why the... Australia has an organization called Get Up. which I'd never heard of either, 350,000 people are registered members of this group. You never hear about them, ever, ever. So yeah, I don't believe in the whole scientist vibe, but I do like the fact that people are organizing and

33:37 and starting to, well it's the awakening. I think this is what the prophecy has been all about. Nobody's waking up. It's getting worse. It's funny you say that because people are saying to me, hey, I got a tweet. Hey, you know, you talk about quitting your day job. Don't people at MeVeo get pissed off? I'm like, are you kidding me? There's only one guy at MeVeo who listens to the show. One guy. It's Andrew Grumman. Yeah, Andrew's the only one who listens to the show. It's only to see if he mentions his name, by the way. I think he actually does care. He seems to be... Who's Katherine Goldstein?

34:16 I want to show you that and just it's coming up. Okay. And you know, it's like, please, you know, they're too worried about their own lives. Even if I quit my day job, they'd be like, you know, after three months, hey, where's Adam? Have you seen him anywhere? They don't care. Nobody knows. I keep telling people listen to this show, you will be amazed at what you can learn. They don't care. They don't listen. They have no time. Yeah, they're just not interested and they are asleep. We're not playing a grunge music. I don't know what it is. Yeah, so yeah, but there no Yeah, it is getting worse. But on the other hand the people who are awake will survive

34:53 and they will provide us, it's not going to be PayPal in the future, there'll be no internet, we're going to have to mesh our Wi-Fi networks together to have some kind of communication, there'll be no cell phones, they'll take all of that down, and instead of PayPal money to do this show, people will bring us food and water. And gold. Or tungsten, whatever the case may be. It doesn't matter as long as it weighs the same, that's fine. So I'm reading these articles and this is the, and so I ran into these two women, which is kind of interesting. There's this Catherine Goldstein who I sent you her Twitter page picture. And it's just like the most smug looking person I've ever seen photographed.

35:43 I'm looking at her Twitter stream now. Yes, I understand. Okay, and she has a She's a she's a Hopenhagen person. Oh, you're horrible and with and just to give you an idea This is the kind of thing that is going nobody's paying any attention to the green gargay of the climate gate and uh... they're just marching ahead and let like you let me just read a couple tweets from her. She's the green editor for uh... the Huffington Post and they're basically mocking Climategate. Uh-huh. Oh, it's bullshit. And so she... but then you read their stuff here you know it's like... Wait a minute, do we have to open the gate, John? I think we should. To the gate, to the gate, to the Climategate.

36:30 Yeah, we got people out there. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we got our peeps She's going on and on about one thing on her Twitter, another good reason why they do due diligence and read people's tweets. I can't believe I'm going on a plane to Copenhagen in a week. I'm going to Copenhagen, yay! It's debatably the best job perk ever. Oh no. Yeah, yeah. It's uh... I'm extremely worried about this. I went back and I

37:25 So there's a couple things. We can talk about the incessant marketing of Copenhagen such as Hope and Hagen. Right, done by Ogilvy. Yeah, which we pointed out before it's a public relations company. Let me read another tweet. I should just read these tweets randomly. Just met with an amazing Danish chef slash food person to talk I'm feeling so incredibly excited about my trip and lucky to be going. Meanwhile, one of our Danish producers sent in a Google translation link from a Danish publication. Apparently, if you show up at any of the... prostitution is legal in Denmark.

38:11 If you show up with your credentials that you are a member of the climate change conference, you can have free sex. Free sex? Under the slogan be sustainable, do not buy sex. So it's only if you're in the Danish government, you do not qualify. But if you show your creds, then you can get free sex. That's why I'd like to go. This is the best job in the world. I loves me the free sex. It's awesome.

38:50 Yeah, it's out of control. Well, you know what I was thinking anyway, I was looking at the picture of this woman and you can all look at it, it's twitter.com. It's in the show notes. Yeah, well there's another woman that looks like an older version of this one. Do you have a link for her too? Yeah, I'm going to give you her picture actually. She's the Newsweek green person and she's almost like a clone of each other except one's older. It's the MILF greenie. It's a green- yeah, yeah, kinda. It's a gilf. The greenie I'd like to fornicate. Well, maybe you would. You know me. Although I've switched recently. I've gone to younger birds now. This would be the older version of- Oh no! Oh no! Wait, wait, wait. Don't make me do her.

39:43 So I'm just saying, but they look the same except one's older. No, she does not. Well, yeah, but she has the same like, look at me. I am above it all. Please, please, please. Who do you think you are? So anyway, that's... She's probably one of these women who has only worked in government. No, or only been a journalist. She looks more like a... What's the difference? There's a bunch of older journalists that get this sad sack quality that is... It's just depressing to be around them. And they're all the climate change mavens. A good example, one of the pictures, this is again the internet giving me too much information. One of the pictures of this woman is with the Dalai Lama, which I'll give you a shot of that. And you see, you can just look at the images page, and you see that, is this something, I don't know what it is.

40:44 You just don't feel like she's very well connected with reality. Well, okay, so you know there's a couple... we've basically opened up the gate so I think... oh yeah, she's not very well connected at all. We have to talk about a couple of things. So first of all, climate gate as it's being called is very significant. Every day and and there's more links in the show notes at no agenda show calm and and if they're not working for you You can check them out at curry calm or Dvorak org. There are more links in there than ever about

41:23 not only the data being false about the programming that they've used to actually calculate this global warming being shitty, shoddy programming. The UK Net Office has now even announced they plan to re-examine 160 years of temperature data After admitting that public confidence in the science of man-made global warming has been shattered so, you know, even even the and and and According to one website that follows this this has been going on for at least 14 days with no mention in them exactly major networks right and of course who hooked to the fact that

42:04 One of the little aspects, one of the positive aspects of global warming will be that we, you know, there's going to be all these laws in place. If you look at that bill passed by the House in the United States, that bill that hasn't gone any further. The cap and trade. That has cap and trade. They say that when you sell your house, you're going to have, it has to have a green audit. Oh yeah, you'll have to sell all of your appliances. All your appliances and General Electric is the beneficiary of that, they own NBC. They own NBC, Jeffrey Immelt is at the White House all the time, he's hanging out with the press, CNBC, yeah all of them. Meanwhile Gordon Brown, another reptile, boy he's got real reptilian features, he has said of course that this is all a bunch of hooey and I'm looking for the exact quote, I know you've seen it. He essentially said,

43:00 that climate change deniers are like flat earthers. And I'm laughing because he's using the analogy incorrectly. Because the flat earthers were the people who were so convinced the science is in and there's no denying. Everyone agrees. You'll fall off the edge of the earth and then some brave people amongst others debatable but Christopher Columbus said no man I think that this thing is round and I'm gonna wind up somewhere he thought was gonna wind up in India whatever or Japan or whatever but he wound up in the new land in America so in fact Gordon Brown you are a flat earther it is exactly the other way around yeah I know they've done a good job of twisting it well they have Ogilvy

43:52 This is one of the number one companies that can twist things around. They twist, they turn, they spin. And you know, Hopenhagen is a perfect example. It's genius. Yeah. In fact, there's an article in the show notes about this Hopenhagen project. and it really, it traces all the roots back to how all these big companies, by the way, Coca-Cola will be serving all of the drinks, Chrysler I believe will be driving everyone around in Copenhagen, it's a huge commercial venture. It's like a big-ass trade show, you know, it's like when you're at Ad Tech in New York, you've got Yahoo cars that drive you around, they can pick you up at Times Square and drive you wherever you want to go with a big Yahoo on the side.

44:39 So, Coca-Cola is going to be providing all of the drinks. Any conflict of interest there, do you think? Chrysler will be providing all of the vehicles and of course there'll be hybrids and whatever other bullshit they come up with. And that's what this whole Hopenhagen thing is about. It's bringing in all of these very powerful corporations who, let's face it, actually run the whole show. It's bringing it all together, but I am so worried. I went back and I looked at Lord Monckton's speech again, where he of course, and I also, I really did my best reading through this Copenhagen Treaty, which scares me just the name by itself because it sounds too much like Lisbon Treaty. And he says, you know, it's for the first time I've really read in any of these documents they're talking about governmental

45:25 I repeat governmental control over finance and climate. It's all about one world government. Yeah. And the whole idea of all this stuff, when you boil it down and you take these people like these two women, we were going to have, you know, the young and old version of the same green woman. It's all about turning the United States sovereignty over to somebody else. really want to do that and people have to wake up to this is the same thing with Australia they would they want to put up a one world government to just be otherwise just the model of course is Europe to see how that works out because I'll never get very far well will be but about a decade but they want to do that

46:05 So I'm actually... World Court. I made a mistake. It's not Chrysler, it's BMW. So Coca-Cola, SAP, Siemens and BMW are tapping the creative talents of many of the world's top agencies. This is all... The title of the article is from Coping to Hoping. And so here's a quote, getting people to understand not only why this is so keenly important, but what they can do to come on board and act. This is exactly what marketing, communications, advertising, PR do exceedingly well. Get people to be aware and take action, says Paul Cohen, vice president of Ketchum, who are also a member of the the Hope and Hagen group. Ketchum? That's a huge PR agency. Yeah, it's what they do. It is what they do.

46:49 So we're talking about slick operators shoving this agenda down our throats. You know, those guys should be responsible. People should take note of these companies if they're going to be promoting one world government. In other words, a government to overs... in other words, they are actually anti-American. That is the most anti-American thing to be involved in. I would call out Ketchum on this. They basically want to screw us. This is a screw job. Coke will have a big presence at the conference in exploiting pouring rights it has secured from the city of Copenhagen. So not just at the conference but pouring rights for the whole city of Copenhagen which is a big deal if you know anything about the Coke and Pepsi wars. A number of high-ranking Coke executives will be in attendance including Chief Executive Officer Muttar Kent who will co-host a UN event at Kronberg Castle

47:40 BMW will be ferrying delegates around. No carbon footprint here. In electric vehicles. SAP, which is another huge company, will be using the conference in part to push its clients to recognize the... push its clients, in other words to sell, to recognize the importance of embracing sustainable practices. It's a sales job. It's a huge ass sales job. Do you have that clip, I don't know if we played it last week, the clip of the radical talking about what's going to happen? Do you remember the name of the clip? I can look it up real quick. It's pretty obvious when you see the list of ones I just sent, because I sent another copy. Leftists on Climate? Yeah.

48:21 Hold on a second, let me just load that up. I can put that in my new system. Oh, I hope that the anarchists that took over Seattle and screwed it up do the do the right thing. So we roll this out. Yeah, roll it. Profiting from climate destruction that are actually obstructing and pushing our government from being the primary obstacle to any kind of real climate solutions. And they're poised to use carbon trading as a way that they can both make huge amounts of money and another I think subprime housing, speculative markets. And the worst part is not only will a bunch of people get rich and the rest of us get poorer, but it won't actually stop climate change. So we're calling that out today.

47:40 BMW will be ferrying delegates around. No carbon footprint here. In electric vehicles. SAP, which is another huge company, will be using the conference in part to push its clients to recognize the... push its clients, in other words to sell, to recognize the importance of embracing sustainable practices. It's a sales job. It's a huge ass sales job. Do you have that clip, I don't know if we played it last week, the clip of the radical talking about what's going to happen? Do you remember the name of the clip? I can look it up real quick. It's pretty obvious when you see the list of ones I just sent, because I sent another copy. Leftists on Climate? Yeah.

48:21 Hold on a second, let me just load that up. I can put that in my new system. Oh, I hope that the anarchists that took over Seattle and screwed it up do the do the right thing. So we roll this out. Yeah, roll it. Profiting from climate destruction that are actually obstructing and pushing our government from being the primary obstacle to any kind of real climate solutions. And they're poised to use carbon trading as a way that they can both make huge amounts of money and another I think subprime housing, speculative markets. And the worst part is not only will a bunch of people get rich and the rest of us get poorer, but it won't actually stop climate change. So we're calling that out today.

49:01 and we're saying we need to do what we did ten years ago and break with our government so that people inside the United States are in solidarity with movements around the world who are also fighting. And we need to, you know, this is the next wave of the global justice movement. The battle never stops in Seattle and it's escalating this week. This week and we need people to if you were in Seattle if you would have been there to now step up around the next threat, and I would say also if you're a Whether you work on anti-war workers rights economic justice that We need to wrap our heads around the climate crisis and the false solutions or we're going to be blindsided that it is

49:43 the central frame through which we need to push back corporate power and assert our rights to run our own lives. So I'm a pacifist by nature and I would recommend the following action be taken in Copenhagen and believe me I would love to be there not only to get free sex with credentials but instead of violence which is rarely a solution but unfortunately seems to be the path where all this is leading I believe that we can do a lot with our social media tools and mainly pictures. So take pictures of these jabronis riding around with big BMW signs. Take pictures of the corporations that are involved. Take pictures just the way they do in courts with your flicker pictures and twist the truth. We can do that much better than they could do. And see the climate gate. Yeah, it's been two weeks

50:39 without any major network ABC, NBC or CBS mentioning any of this but the news is out there and people are taking note and the internet is a very powerful tool in all this so we need to just just shame them humiliate them and play their own game that is what I would recommend That would be a good approach too and it's fun. It is and it gives us content for the show. Yeah but the photo taking is fun. You can go out there and take all kinds of funny pictures and you can find some of these delegates going into the whorehouses. Yeah. That'd be fantastic. Yeah and we'll link that right up to the story that is for free and all you have to do is follow them. It's like

51:20 Paparazzi, I you know paparazzi of the world you've made enough money this year on Taylor Swift and Britney Spears and Brad and Angelina take your take your skills and man these guys have got some skills take it up to Some lenses. Yeah, take it up to Copenhagen and take some of these shots. I mean here's a Here's a poor man's version. Although I love it a lot. This is we are changed, New York on the last show I played you a clip from we are changed Chicago as Al Gore is out on his book signing tour and of course his new book, I can't remember the title and I don't want to promote it and although I will read it for you, absolutely, because I'm not against reading books but we've got to expose whatever sham claims he's written this time. This is what people are doing around the country now as Al Gore speeds around in his

52:15 in his non-hybrid SUV. Here's what happened at Barnes & Noble in New York. I love the PR chick. No press conference, photo op only. Shut up slave, don't ask any questions you fool! I love that, calling him out on the carbon exchange which of course he's part owner of.

52:53 Mr. Gore, you're a traitor to this nation and you know it! You are a traitor! You are subject to penalty and crimes that are under treason clause! Now they go outside and they yell at the heckling him as he's getting into his car. Mr. Gore, what's the carbon footprint of your 20 room mansion? These are not the tea baggers. No, no, these are not the tea baggers. These are young people who are probably left-wing

53:37 extremists and anarchists and this movement which is led by the media that seems to be the only people that defend everything. I mean the media with these like these two women that write for Newsweek and HuffPost and people that write for the New York Times and all these media outlets, they are the only, these are the guys holding the fort. They don't want to talk about any of this stuff. Meanwhile, the far left and the far right and the anarchists and the right wingers and the tea baggers and everybody in between are so against this. These guys in Copenhagen aren't going to know what hit them. Oh no, it's... you know what? I disagree. I think they know exactly what's coming down. I don't believe this for a minute. Really? I watch Gore on Letterman. I know people that don't listen to our show typically. They are lockstep in with what the media's told them about global warming and the facts are in and everybody agrees and you got the Jeanine Garofaloes and the Joy Behars. We've had them quoted on the show before about how they're... these people are

54:39 totally not expecting anything the same way the naive boneheads from the WTO didn't expect those riots in Seattle or any place else in the world now they have to go to South America to have their meetings. John, I disagree because when the G20 had their financial summit in Pittsburgh... It took 10 years for them to figure this out. Yeah, but when they had their summit there in Pittsburgh, you saw nothing on the news of all the horrible things that were taking place as new weaponry, sound weapons were being used on people. They were pretending to pick up protesters. These guys are not going to be aware that there's any protest except from nutcases on the right. And they know they're not going to be rioting. They do not know this is going to happen. I'm telling you, this is going to be weird.

55:26 Well, I'll tell you one thing, the world will not see it on lamestream media, that's for sure. No, but the internet's already, you know, we'll be seeing it. They're going to have to report this one. You want to hear how... But they'll blame it on the right wing or they'll blame it on the teabaggers. Oh, yeah, teabaggers, right, exactly. You want to hear how NBC affiliated, MSNBC talks about Climategate, Keith Olbermann? The man with the largest head on television? Yeah. So, and now the story is kind of irrelevant because Fox News, you know, has been showing pieces of a very funny clip of Jon Stewart where Jon Stewart says, oh, Al Gore, the very man who invented the internet is now, you know, exactly what we, I think Jon Stewart probably got his material from us because we made the very same joke a week before.

56:12 So that's kind of irrelevant, but just listen to how Olbermann talks about Climategate and the science being in and you know, are we crazy and Fox News... So he's calling the Fox News team the worst, world's worst people of the week or whatever. It's all bullshit, I don't care about that. But just listen to the narrative. They had a scoop. John Stewart was denying global warming. Extraordinarily, Doocy said, they take a look at this. John Stoner of the Daily Show, which is historically bashed Republicans, and you know, not bashed Democrats, really took a shot at Al Gore. Look at this. And they played this fight. Poor Al Gore. Global warming completely debunked via the very internet you invented. Oh! Oh, the irony!

57:01 Irony! The Iron... ...ny. Three chipmunks came out and talked with Michelle Malkin about how even Jon Stewart was saying global warming had been debunked. Oh, the Iron... ...ny. In fact, ClusterFox used only a sliver of Stewart's remarks in order to utterly twist their meaning and to hide the nasty little detail about the Fox climate gate story. Here's the whole thing. So anyway, so he then he, you gotta look at the whole clip if you want to. It's uh, well this is interesting by the way. What? Did you notice his interesting propagandistic use? Yeah, oh yeah, wanna hear it again? No, but I'm talking about the way he called it Fox's Climate Gate. Yeah, oh yeah, no because he's... As though Fox... Made it up. ...as though Fox somehow is behind it. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, totally made it... Dude.

57:46 This is what they do every single time. And by the way, Fox is run by the same people. Don't fall into the trap. By the way, our theory is Fox is a straw man run by the Democrats. It's called the left-right paradigm. And what it is, is to have two sides of a debate really run by the same globalists in this case who are in the background. and it's just to keep you busy, to think that your thoughts are being protected. But meanwhile, if you look at the Tiger Woods Index on Fox News, there's been more about Tiger Woods than about ClimateGate. They're doing the same thing. They're pumping your brain full of crap that is unnecessary. I'm reminded by the way, I was listening to the Glenn Beck show once on the radio, and somebody called in and they brought up

58:33 No, I'm sorry, it was Hannity. But same thing, Hannity's on Fox too. They call up Hannity and they said, well, you know about the builder, the guy mentions the Builder Burgers. on a Hannity radio show. And Hannity goes, I never heard of him, I don't know what you're talking about. And again, he hung up on the guy. I swear to God, and I'm thinking, what is that all about? Because they're not on the same side. Now, I want to play one more clip. This is our governor of the United Republic of California, Gitmo Nation West. He's been brought in of course, although he seems like such a nice guy, I really want to like him. But at the end of the day he's just a team player and he presented what will happen to California if we don't immediately tackle climate change.

59:28 And he's released a video. Have you seen this video, John? No, I didn't even know about this. Climate action in California with Governor Schwarzenegger. Have a little listen. The tour that we're about to take is designed to promote awareness of the challenges that we face from climate change and the kind of things that we can do together to overcome those challenges. By the way, the whole video is a Google Earth animation when we're flying by all of these spots that will be destroyed. In California, we are already seeing the signs of a change in climate. Average temperatures in our state rose nearly 2 degrees and if greenhouse gas emissions are not substantially reduced, scientists tell us that temperatures in California could rise an additional 7 degrees during this century.

1:00:16 Seven. Seven degrees? I mean, he's using Austrian math. We went to the Austrian school of economics. There'll be a total of nine degrees. Yeah. The greatest risks from climate change is a less reliable water supply. Californians have long struggled with water shortages. Those shortages... We're selling it. I expect it to get worse as temperatures rise and as we lose our precious Sierra snowpack. Projections shown here indicate that if global warming continues unabated, the spring snowpack in the Sierra Nevada will virtually disappear by the end of the century. This would pose extreme challenges to water managers, hamper hydropower generation, and nearly eliminate skiing... Oh no! It'll eliminate skiing! Now I've got to panic! What are we gonna do? ...boarding and other recreational activities.

1:01:09 Now another area of concern for California is our 1,100 miles of scenic coastline. Our coast, home to over 25 million people, is vulnerable to a range of natural hazards, including storms, high tides, and rising sea levels. And based on green technology, we can create a new economic foundation for the 21st century that is built on clean fuel, clean energy, and clean cars. Now one terrific example is for instance the car company called Tesla Motors. Tesla manufactures cars that are 100% electric. He bought one of those turkeys. Of course, he's promoted, I bet you he got it for free. And by the way, it's built on a Lotus body which is not made in California. All they do is the battery and power management.

1:01:57 And of course they got a huge grant from the government. Right, which went to England. And it's an $80,000 car. Nice! Awesome! That's the wheels I can afford. They can go from 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds. Yeah, well that's kind of good because we have... Oh, so now, wait a minute, so he's advocating reckless driving? Of course, 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. You need to have this vehicle. Of course. It goes 0-60 in 3.9 seconds. So as the governor, the chief executive of the state of California is bragging about a high speed vehicle that is clearly dangerous accelerating at that rate of speed. Yes. That's right. Oh well, whatever.

1:02:41 that because of California's aggressive environmental policies Tesla is manufacturing their cars and creating their great jobs right here in California. In fact, a wave of green innovation is washing over our state. We are proving that it is possible to protect both the environment and the economy. That's his only example? Yeah, that's it. End of video. What is this, a promotion for the Tesla Motor Company? Yeah, apparently. Apparently we've done nothing else in the state of California, battery technology, nothing except a Tesla 0 to 60 in 3.9 seconds or whatever it is and that's a good thing. $80,000 car, that's our contribution. That's it and we're sticking to it. We've done it. We're in.

1:03:28 All right, meanwhile the climate gate has reached NASA. Climate gate now reach NASA. That researcher Chris Horner, he's a senior fellow with the Competitive Enterprise Institute and the author of Red Hot Lies. Thank you for joining us. Another book I gotta read. Can we rely on any of this data anymore after what we've heard from the emails, etc? What can we trust now? Probably just the satellite data which goes back 30 years which was put up in place at great expense to you and me in response to the acclaimed consensus over catastrophic man-made global cooling. So you can look at the satellite data, but what NASA has been doing... Is that true, John? 30 years ago did they put up those satellites to track global cooling? Do you recall that?

1:04:22 I don't recall it, but I'm sure it was one of the rationales. The global cooling thing was a big deal. It seems fairly similar to what's been exposed in the UK. In 2007, when I first issued this Freedom of Information Act request, a Canadian statistician named Stephen McIntyre saw NASA increasingly hysteric about US temperatures even though they were not in fact going up. If anyone with a pulse knows, they've been going down. So he notified NASA and they corrected their temperature data for the US without issuing a press release for once. And then a few days later went back in and refudged the numbers. And so what we've been seeking is the underlying data, the computer code, annotations to the code. What are they using to constantly change historical data? And also, what was their internal discussion about, uh-oh, should we correct the data? What will be the implications if we do? And so on. And NASA has been remarkably not forthcoming. In fact, last night, two senators, Vitter and Inhofe from Louisiana and Oklahoma, sent a letter to the NASA inspector general.

1:05:23 saying guard these documents, don't destroy anything, don't be too British on this. I like that meme, don't be British about climate gate. I love that. I like it too. And let's see what really went on. Well the inspector general is supposed to be the overseer and not affiliated so we'll have to see what happens with that but let's take a look at some of this data that you say has changed at NASA. So first, 1998 was the hottest year in its records for the contiguous 48 states. Is that true or did that change? They've changed the top three, well the entire ranking several times. So their defense now, let's just resolve where we are now, they're claiming well whatever it's just within a few hundredths of a degree to the 1930s. Okay well you prove too much, you're telling us it's now as hot as it was in the 30s. Great, I fail to see the alarm, the trend is going down. What happened Gretchen is they were adding

1:06:17 different stations. They've been slowly backing out high altitude rural temperature stations to focus on thermometers sitting in the middle of cities and on airport runways and in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, hanging over a barbecue grill. But why would NASA be involved in this whole media storm? Right, that's a very good question. NASA became increasingly a global warming taxpayer funded agency with the relative decline in space funding. And when you're talking about $7 billion a year writ large in climate related research, scientists are people too. They began sexing things up and this gentleman, James Hansen, who is the custodian of the data, has a history of yelling that anybody named George Bush who's a president is smuzzling him. The first one, the second one didn't matter. He's a bit of a committed radical global warming alarmist and he began sexing things up, it appears, during George W. Bush's presidency. So there's a couple of links in the show notes that follow this in a little more depth. I just thought it was interesting that that was on Fox & Friends, which I don't watch, but was sent the YouTube clip.

1:07:19 But just to explain what all of this is about, this dates back and there's a fantastic story in Under the Climate Gate heading in the show notes as well. Fantastic story about how this is tracked back to the Club of Rome. And can you give us some background on the Club of Rome, John? The Club of Rome, well this is an old organization, this goes back to the 70s I think. Yes. And the Club of, there was a couple of things that were going on back then. The hysteria back in the 60s and 70s was mostly about population control. And if I'm not mistaken, the Club of Rome had a clock, I think, it was a doomsday clock that by the year 2000 we're going to have too many people.

1:08:00 and we wouldn't be able to sustain, we're going to have massive famines. And there was a Stanford professor, I think it was Erlich Erdemann, something like that, somebody you'll know in the chat room, who wrote a book on zero population growth. And this has been the underlying theme. I think it still exists, this theme, although it never got anywhere because we didn't have the famines he predicted, we didn't have the die-offs, we didn't have all these weirdnesses that he was saying was going to happen by the year 2000. The Club of Rome was behind this and they predicted the end of the universe, the world as we know it because of population growth and then came along the next iteration of scaring the public which was the upcoming Ice Age.

1:08:41 But nobody could profit from that, so they switched it over to the global warming because then you could create this cap and trade thing with carbon credits and carbon footprints and all the rest of it. But underlying it, there's still this we have to kill the public. We have to kill people. We have to have one world government. We have to kill people. We got to get the population down to something like a few million as opposed to these billions. So there's really a sinister thing under underscoring all this and all these robotic people that just lockstep into whatever Ogilvy and Ketchum tells them to say, which are really controlling things. You know, about, you know, we need governance. Global governance is the key word you keep running into. And then you have, you know, population control. We should only have one baby per two people.

1:09:26 even though we know this is destroying certain cultures already by having not enough births. So the Club of Rome published a number of documents and they were convinced that the only way to get people on board and with the program, and I believe the reduction had, it's some ridiculous number like you can only have a hundred and fifty million people on the planet or so, there was some ridiculously low number of course now we're around more than six billion. Their whole published documents state that we have to scare people with imagery of Floods, famine, death, destruction. We have to fear people into getting on board with the program and as you correctly stated they tried that well of course the media wasn't quite as good as it was back then in the 70s. You know the media was actually much better back then. They had more controlled

1:10:21 Well, at the same time, they weren't so lockstep, they weren't so politically locked in to a religious philosophy. I'm sorry, I meant it from the other, to propagate their propagandist agenda, the media was not appropriate at the time, because of course the news media actually reported on news and had objective facts. They covered stories. They weren't writing about how it's gonna be so much fun to go to Copenhagen. So they pushed this, they tried it with the new ice age, with global cooling, but it wasn't really until I would have to say Al Gore with an inconvenient truth that they really caught the spark there.

1:11:07 And the thing that I have to remind people of is that we do have the power to turn this around. Because at the end of the day, you know, the six billion versus maybe a million of these Yahoo reptiles who are running around, you know, we totally have power in numbers. And what we're doing with programs like this is you know it may only be a hundred and fifty million at the end of the day that'll be left over but at least we won't be controlled. We'll be alive and we'll be awake and in order to continue doing that we need your help and this is where I'd like to thank our executive producer Richard from Tasmania for his donation for today's show as well as our associate executive producer Todd Simmons. You had some more... wait first let me close the gate.

1:11:53 To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate. And just to add to what you said there, John, the end game for these globalists, stemming from way back in the 70s, the Club of Rome, is to kill people and to be rich. Not necessarily in that order. Well, the rich part is really what they're after. And you know, global governance helps them out some. Because it makes it easier. They don't want to do any work. All right, let me read a couple of people that donated this week. But I'm going to go right to Richard from Tasmania's note. He sent us a note. He says it's 52 weeks at $55 a week worth every cent, which sounds right. In other news recently, Malcolm Turnbull was removed from the leadership of the Liberal Party, which is a

1:12:44 to american standards as a conservative party uh... or republican kind of what you may not know is he is an ex-merchant banker who helped goldman sachs which I suspect is the primary reason he was so supportive of cap and trade and the reason he had to be removed. Remember that Goldman Sachs is running the six billion dollar fund owned by Al Gore which has a huge interest in the only carbon exchange which was given a grant by a foundation at the time that President Obama was a board member.

1:13:20 Right. Anyway, so the, his seat is Wentworth in Sydney and is very trendy, socially progressive, and odds with a socially conservative party. Kind of an awkward sentence. He's a bit like John McCain and looks for support from the progressive left mainstream media who hate the party he represents, so he basically screwed himself. So that's a little insight into what's going on. The Australians are just at the edge of being screwed over. They are angry. Have you ever been to Australia, John? I don't think so, right? No. I have been to Australia and I fell in love immediately with that country. I fell in love with the people. Of course, I wasn't really in any of the big cities. I was in the outback for about a week.

1:14:07 But even in in Sydney, it was just the people did they work hard play hard. That's all they want to do You know, they they don't take any bullshit. And if you talk bullshit, you know, they do exactly what we do They've got a very simple formula for that Our formula is this we go out We hit people in the mouth. I'd say that's the Australian formula So, let me go through a few names. Sir John Matthews, one of our Knights, gave us another $50 to say the following. On show 150, you incorrectly inducted me as a Kiwi. I am in fact the Aussie from North Carolina. Here's a $50 donation. Please correct this error.

1:14:52 So like other 50 donors came from... That is a huge faux pas. There's a little issue between... Oh yeah, no, we were sorry. And then Vincent Dun... Other $50 donors, Vincent Dunstan of New South Wales, Australia. Bryant March... March... M-A-R-C-H-E-W-K-A... Marchuca. Marchuca. Marchika. Brian Marchika. That's what it's gotta be. Good prep there on the show, Johnny Boy. Yeah, I just, I had it earlier. And then he says he gave us 55-55 to cheer Adam up. Peter Todes, T-O-T-A-Y-S from Sugar Land, Texas. Manfred Hurtenberger from North Riding Gauteng, South Africa.

1:15:43 This is a long ways to go. John Tirada, Pasadena, John Theodorsen, oh brother. This is another Australian by the way. T-H-E-O-D-O-R-S-E-N. Theodorsen. I can't catch it. Got it. Get it You there. Hold on a second John. My daughter's just calling me Continue I'll be right back. Okay, he'll get that back Mike Westerfield. I will get that name pronounced hopefully Who's in Enderlin North Dakota? another $50 from Tristan Lennon from Wagga Wagga, New South Wales David Kerwin who is in if I flip over the page souk

1:16:29 British Columbia, BC. Suk is a little place up on the Vancouver Islands, very interesting. There's an area called Suk Harbor, which is very picturesque. I'd recommend visiting. One of the prettiest places in the country. We've got Armin Breuer from Wien, Austria. Paul Love, Mechanicsville, Virginia. Lawrence Kevin Sanley-Andro, California, who says that he's donating money even though it makes his blood pressure rise. He's the blood pressure guy. And then we have the people who've added more than 50, which are, I'm trying a new system here, that's why I'm so confused. Again, we had Todd Simmons, who is one of the executive producers from 8 Mile Plains, Queensland. We have John Smith, who is in St. Petersburg, Florida and runs the Monroe Internet Services. He gave 100. Sorry about that. He's a Ron Paul fan.

1:17:32 Hilmar Schneider, Langley, British Columbia, 96-69 in Palindrome. Steven Pelsmakers, P-E-L-S-M-A-E-K-E-R-S, I think I got that pronounced correctly. Hundred he thinks I can't pronounce it and he says we can give it to El Palo so or a credit He gave a hundred eighty. Thank you very much for that and finally s Scott from South Woodford Essex gave a hundred and I have one from Italy and

1:18:13 My sister Willow is now a subscriber. I believe she's a $5 a month subscriber. I've been giving her shit, saying, hey man, what's up with that? And she gave me the top 10 reasons she's subscribed to No Agenda. Number 10, I don't like being called a leecher in public. Number 9, it's only 16.5% of what I pay monthly to save the children. Number 8, No Agenda is the only program that makes me laugh out loud. That one I like the best. Number 7, there is no Starbucks in Italy. Number 6, John does the best jingle during the UFO alien minute.

1:18:53 Can you give a little, uh... Five, I actually know where my brother is in the world and what he's up to. Number four, the mayor of Florence claims that he will remove all parking meters. Number three, with my short commute of 20 minutes, I get two days of entertainment. Number two, I didn't have any small change to get rid of to close my PayPal account. And the number one reason I subscribe to No Agenda is so that Adam can quit his day job. That's real love right there, man. That's sisterly love. So you can go to noagendashow.com or Dvorak.org slash NA. We're also going to set up another page because apparently Dvorak.org slash NA, which is really the nexus of where the money's collected, apparently does not appear in South Korea anymore. Oh no, of course not. And we're also Russia's sketchy, so we're going to set up another drop site.

1:19:45 but Dvorak.org slash NA and NoAgendaShow.com and I'll have the new links to some other web page that I think we can make sure it shows up in foreign countries that block Dvorak uncensored because the word uncensored itself apparently is censored. The internet is doomed, let's face it. The internet is doomed. So, you know, and we really need your help because we have a very, very simple business model. It is what originally the National Treasure NPR started out with. It's based upon donations and people feeling good about getting the real story. We have no agenda. We don't give a crap. We're not left, we're not right. We're just two dudes.

1:20:27 essentially you know we like free sex like everybody else and we would love to go to copenhagen and uh... that would be a great perk of the job would be yes it would be fantastic but meanwhile uh... uh... here's what's happening in your government uh... waxman what's his name uh... was his first name henry had yet and i was a little waxman is now introducing bills into uh... into the into the house the house Yeah, yeah into the house to subsidize mainstream media. Yeah, you know of course because keep these liars alive. Oh, yeah, because well, you know We need the news to report the truth and we need real journalism the internet ain't no good You can't have any of that so they're gonna give him tax breaks for these subsidies in Gitmo Nation East in the low lower portion in the Netherlands 60

1:21:20 young journalists are 100% subsidized by the government. This is the ministry of truth in the making and you have to be very, very, very careful when these things take place. Even if you're skeptical of the truth that we speak or the topics that we debunk, disseminate, pull apart, deconstruct, whatever you want to call it. You cannot deny that that is not a good idea. This is Atlas Shrugged real life. Let's listen once again to the chairwoman of NPR as she talks about their funding. Okay, moving on to money. How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession? And what about foundation grants?

1:22:10 Two different stories. Underwriting is down. It's down for everybody. I mean, this is the area that is most down for us. It's in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want. Yeah, call it whatever you want. It's called advertising and it's big companies like General Electric. Right, meanwhile they're soliciting your money. So we need your money to continue, we need your money to expand. I've actually, I've spent some of my, more of my time working on the stream. We haven't selected a stream manager yet, but I've at least put some formatting together. We're getting there. Everything is going to be up by the first of January. Oh, jeez Louise, I can't even get you to find the password to the website. What kind of bullshit are you talking about? So Brian, by the way, I think we forgot to mention Brian Ferguson in Irvine, he gave us 120.

1:23:06 Cool. Well, we appreciate it, but... And I want to... we also want to thank the people who subscribe. We got a lot of $5 subscribers, which is a good thing. That helps Morton pretty much a lot. And then there's a lot of people that just give, you know, miscellaneous amounts. So we seriously appreciate it. Oh yeah, I know. It goes to pay bills. Yes, it does. And we... but we'd also accept free sex donations. All you have to do is go to Copenhagen, I'm sure you can get credentialed. You think? You don't think I'm on some kind of list up there? I don't know about that. Nobody listens to the show. Yeah. None of the people on that side of the argument listen to this show. None of them do. We can say whatever we want. There's another show that I listen to.

1:23:54 I listen to a lot of wacky programs, but you know I read wacky books too. I don't think that you can get enough information. Atlas Shrugged. Well you can call that one wacky. I think Atlas Shrugged has more to it than... Just go on with what you're saying. Atlas Shrugged, Atlas Shrugged, Atlas Shrugged. Then Sarah Palin's book, you know, I got more out of Atlas Shrugged than... Going rogue. Let's put it that way So this is program that is ho it's a religious program and I am a student of religious broadcasters I don't need the rationale just wouldn't tell us just give me a break. Let me see. What is your problem? I think we should do a book that shirt Sarah Pan's book called going broke Because that's the direction we're headed I like that is the show called hosted by a guy named Steve quail and

1:24:44 It's called Voices from the Heartland and he had this former Kansas State Trooper on Greg Everson. And I was alarmed when I heard what this guy had to say. He says, that right now, and this is totally in line with all the Goldman Sachs executives getting guns, right now, Department of Homeland Security, the military, all of these armed forces are, in fact they had a meeting yesterday, some kind of emergency meeting to prepare for huge civil unrest. And this of course is all coordinated by NORTHCOM,

1:25:24 and which I think is, I don't know if that's a parallel to Department of Homeland Security. And what they're talking about is the possible implementation of Operation Garden Plot. What? You got me on this one. Okay. Operation Garden Plot stems from... Hold on a second. A little piece of commercial there. What the hell is that? I'm sorry. I'm trying to find out. What the hell? What are you doing? Well, you open a webpage and then shit just starts to play, man. I don't know what's going on. I'm trying to... I hate that. Yeah, like MeVeo. But at least you go in there because you want something to play.

1:26:14 Okay, so Operation Garden Plot. The President is authorized by the Constitution and Title 10 to suppress insurrections, rebellions, and domestic violence. After issuing a cease and desist order, the President issues an executive order that directs the Attorney General and the SECDEF. I'm not sure what that is. to take appropriate steps to disperse insurgents, we know what they are, they are Ron Paul supporters, people who walk around with the copies of the Constitution, people who are veterans, people who are gun owners, people who do wacky shows on the internet, to restore law and order.

1:26:51 The Attorney General is then responsible to coordinate the federal response to domestic civil disturbances. The restrictions of the Posse Comitatus Act no longer apply to federal troops executing the orders of the President to quell the disturbance in accordance with the rules of the use of force and approved by the Department of Defense, General Counsel, and the Attorney General. So what does this mean? So Garden Plot is code, and if you know anyone in the military, ask them about Garden Plot. It is code for bombing civilian areas. Airstrikes, essentially.

1:27:32 and this is not going to happen in uh... in california or new york or anywhere people actually read the new york times and are on board with the program this is going to have you going to be people gun owners will get knocks on their doors uh... this is going to happen where the quote tea baggers live this is going to happen in the midwest was disturbing and is a two-hour show it was a very very long and uh... there's a lot of religious stuff in there but They were getting reports while they were on air from military personnel saying, yeah, this is absolutely true. They are holding these emergency meetings. They believe with the next 45 to 60 days, Operation Garden Plot will have to be implemented because there is so much unrest now, which is not being reported anywhere, not on Fox News either. And it's not tea baggers. It is American civilians. They're so angry, so broke.

1:28:26 So disillusioned, so disenchanted, so disenfranchised that they are going to stop paying taxes and that they're going to take their weapons and they're going to say enough already. And law enforcement the way I view it, about half of them are probably 100% on board with the program and will be tasing you, will be telling you what to do. Luckily, the other half is probably... Can you imagine if you're a soldier and you're ordered to point your gun at an American civilian? Can you imagine that? Can you imagine how that must feel? Happened in the 60s. Well, it could happen again and I fear that we're getting very close. Please read through all the links that are under Gitmo

1:29:11 in the show notes at noagendershow.com, curry.com and dvorak.org read through this because the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 is extremely important. This means that the US military cannot be used against its own people yet there's enough lawyering that has gone on that this can be changed at the drop of a hat and you gotta admit John the unrest is in the air. I'm not seeing it. No, you're not seeing it on television, but I'm reading it, I'm feeling it. I feel it myself. I feel it. And I watch what's going on. We've been robbed by Wall Street bankers.

1:29:59 uh... were were about to get you by the way you should be feeling it because if you're following anything about the health care insurance act bill up your arse then you know that the whole plan is is to kill all people in fact uh... uh... bernanke uh... was uh... being uh... interrogated on uh... for his uh... reinstatement as chairman of the federal reserve And here's what he thought we should do. Let me just kill this browser so we don't have that other sound. Here's what he answered when he thought we should do about the deficit. How should we get rid of all these problems we have in finance? I recall in the 90s because I was here that there's only two really ways you can deflect this deficit and that's either by cutting expenditures or raising income taxes or other forms of taxes. This is not Bernanke's answer is coming. To reduce deficits?

1:31:02 Well, just logically there are other kinds of taxes besides income tax. No, no, I'm sorry, this is the one I didn't play. Welcome Mr. Chairman. Was the trajectory of federal spending and Federal Reserve policy more appropriate at the end of 2000 or the end of 1999 than it is today? Well, we certainly face a lot more challenges since then. If you recall, we had a surplus. We did have a surplus. We had unemployment rates that were about 4.6 percent. We had economic growth and income growth across the spectrum at every level. So what happened?

1:31:44 Well, going back to some of the themes that Senator Shelby raised, the stock market boom was not sustainable. It popped and that contributed to the recession of 2001. And now, of course, we've had a financial crisis and a deep recession, which has dragged down tax revenues and created needs for for supporting people out of work and other important objectives. So a lot of what's happening right now, of course these enormous deficits we have this year and next year are not permanent, they're reflecting the current situation. But some of it will be permanent unless we begin to address particularly the entitlement issue and the aging issue. Okay, the aging issue. And then he goes on to say, and that's the one I wanted to play, I guess I screwed it up. He says, I'm not saying we should get rid of old people,

1:32:39 But that's exactly what's happening. Half a... You said that? Yeah, let me find out. So they don't want to save you, don't want to kill old people? Those are the programs which are growing. Get rid of, okay. Sorry. At the rate we're going in about 15 years, the entire federal budget will be entitlements and interest and there won't be any money left over for defense or any of the other activities. So clearly, We're facing a very difficult structural problem in that we have an aging society and rising health care costs and the government has very substantial obligations I'm not in any way advocating unfair treatment of the elderly who have worked all their lives and certainly deserve our support. But if there are ways to restructure or strengthen these programs that reduce costs, I think that's extraordinarily important for us to try to achieve. So I'm not advocating getting rid of elderly people. That's the way I hear that, John.

1:33:37 Yeah, which reminds me of this little ditty. Because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government. Which is exactly what's going to happen. So I have a cup. $500 billion reduction in Medicare. $500 billion. Yeah, that was the big debate. It was all over the C-SPAN. I tried to get some poignant clips. I didn't get too many, but I did get a funny clip. Which is Bacchus was on the floor and I swear to God this was like 2 in the afternoon Eastern time I believe I think he was up all night, and and I think he was drunk Matter of fact, I'm sorry. Well anyway, he's slurring his words, and it was just a boring I don't know what he was talking about but but the funny thing is he deferred to Frank and I have to say now nobody's picked this up

1:34:24 But Franken apparently still does have a sense of humor and I mean you could ridicule him for what he did in this little ditty that I'm gonna play but I thought it was actually kind of amusing and it was light but at the same time you know kind of ludicrous. I don't know how much time I have left. The senator has 16 seconds left. Okay, go wizards!

1:35:04 I do have the microphone and I thank you for the 16 seconds and I'd like to now, oh I've used it up. You have my time. The senator from Wyoming. I thought that was funny. Yeah that is funny. That is good. But if you listen to Baucus, I mean the guy was wasted. It was two in the morning, maybe he's just tired. I think it was two in the evening. I think it was two Eastern because it was supposedly live and I was watching it. He's one of those elderly, we should get rid of him. Because that'll help our deficit because we won't have any money left over for war.

1:35:41 So I have one more clip all right, and we haven't talked about the swine flu at all well if you want we can certainly It'll be a real minute. Yeah now I we were watching dollhouse because they had they're running two shows in a row and we're trying to figure out whether this shows really worth following it's kind of a weird story done by Josh we and who did firefly and some other crazy things but So we're watching this thing and we have the evil person who's got the one of the girls locked down and they got these memory things They change your brain with these things and they can make you think certain things and they they got a lockdown They're gonna shove this these memories into her to torture her and and this is the way it plays out when you watch it on television and I have a commentary about how this works so we took your memories and

1:36:39 Is Caroline in there? You want me to play the whole thing without any captions? Yeah, play the whole thing, no, no, all of the whole thing. All right, I'll go back to the beginning. Here you go. No, we took your memories. Is Caroline in there? I guess I know. This is one of my memories of you. This is the last time I saw you. This is what you did to me. Not just to my arm. To me. I want you to feel this. There is something worse than pain.

1:37:29 Sharing. It's what kids do. But every year an average of 4 million kids get the flu and miss out on sharing. That's why we created Good2Share.com. Here you'll learn about preventing influenza and discover the latest vaccination options. Okay, can you stop it? It took us about halfway through this commercial before we realized they cut to a commercial. It was a commercial. It was really slick. I almost didn't hear it. In the audio, it was like, huh? They bring up this moment where you're incredibly wired into the story because you don't know what's going to happen and you're tense, you're into it, you're receptive to see what's going to happen next and then they cut to a commercial that takes you at least 10 seconds to realize it's a commercial you don't know and it's a flu thing. I was stunned that they would do this. This is Fox by the way. Oh of course it is and the biggest secret in television which I've been in all my life

1:38:31 is that the programming is only there to fill up the gaps between the commercials. And I believe this borders on breaking FCC regulation. I believe there has to be a clear distinction between programming and advertising. Not that anyone gives a crap, but then the whole sharing thing and you know... Well, you got the point that it was a commercial by the time it was half done, but it was the fact that you were set up to be receptive to a message. Of course! Memories, new messages coming in, attention. I'll go back to the Zen TV experiment. I gotta put it in the show notes again. This is what television does. It sets you up to receive these messages. Not just the advertising, by the way, in the programming itself. It is all mind control. All of it. Every single bit of it. All mind control. And by the way, this is the reason we were asking for donations. We do not want to bring advertising into the picture. Now there's something, I wanted to do something different, John, since our time is up.

1:39:38 And I was really on the fence about this, but I think we might consider doing this. So I spent a lot of time yesterday, and you're right, as Mickey says, did you watch ugly people on TV again while I was gone? I said yeah, because that's her description of C-SPAN is ugly people on TV. And so I look at the Bernanke confirmation hearings, and this is about two hours. as they say on C-SPAN, this program lasts about two hours. I love that. Yeah, it's funny. It's like, huh? Kind of? You don't know? It's been pre-recorded. And the representative from Arkansas, Jim Bunnings, did a 13-minute slam session on Bernanke, which was so truthful

1:40:32 So right on the money, so exactly what you and I have been discussing for the past two years, takes Bernanke, shoves a poker up his butt, twists it, reheats it, shoves it down his throat, And it is such a beautiful piece of work. And I was turned on to it because I read a Bloomberg report which said, you know, it was really funny during the confirmation hearings for Bernanke when Jim Bunnings inadvertently called him Greenspan instead of Bernanke. which, you know, he just said, yeah, that was a Freudian slip. And that was the only thing that was reported on this 13-minute monologue which I was floored by. I was like, oh my God! This is amazing! This had... people have to see this! And, of course, nowhere... the only thing that they show on the news is the little guffaw where he calls him Greenspan. And since our time is up, John,

1:41:30 The only place you can hear this kind of stuff is right here. Because you're not going to catch it on C-SPAN, there is a link in the show notes to the entire two-hour confirmation hearing. With your permission, as partner on this program, I'd like to play that 13-14 minutes just at the end of the show, so if people are really like, they don't want to know about it, they're done with us, you know, I want to listen to that, then they can just skip over it or whatever. But maybe we should just play that in its entirety I don't think by the way that you could actually listen to it without Without wanting to stop and discuss it. Are you game for that? Because I don't know if we want to stop and discuss I think some of these things should just stay I think we should close the show Okay with a goodbye and then you play that and then you cut the stream And then I cut the stream just like that baby. I shut it off and

1:42:23 Yeah, then you have people have it, you know, they have it on their, because you'll have it on the post too. Yeah, what I'll also do is I'll put the sound file up for download so you can send that to people so they can put it on their iPod and say, hey, this is like 13 minutes, you should just really listen to it. I also left in his response by the way, and then Christopher Dodd even throws his buddy under the bus for a second and said, I don't want to, you cannot write this stuff. You cannot write this stuff. And apparently none of the media people can report it either. Not a single one has reported on this other than the gaff of him saying, oh, Mr. Greenspan. That's all that was reported. So we're going to play that. It is a special bonus item.

1:43:11 brought to you through quite a bit of work. It takes time to do all that shit. So anyway, coming to you from Gitmo Nation, West San Francisco, California, the Crackpot Command Center, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's actually now sunny on a day where it's supposed to be pouring rain, I'm John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you again on Thursday, bringing you more of what you won't hear on the lamestream media, right here on NO Agenda. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Four years ago when you came before the Senate for confirmation to be chairman of the Federal Reserve, I was the only senator to vote against you. In fact, I was the only senator to even raise serious concerns about you. I opposed you because I knew you would continue the legacy of Alan Greenspan, and I was right. But I did not know how right I would be and could not imagine how wrong you would be in the following four years.

1:44:15 The Greenspan legacy on monetary policy was breaking from the Taylor rule to provide easy money and thus inflate bubbles. Not only did you continue that policy when you took control of the Fed, but you supported every Greenspan rate decision when you were on the Fed earlier this decade. Sometime you even wanted to go farther to provide easier money than Chairman Greenspan. And as recently as a letter you sent me two weeks ago, you still refuse to admit Fed action played any role in inflating the housing bubble, despite the overwhelming evidence and the consensus of economists to the contrary.

1:44:58 And in your effort to keep filling the punch bowl, you cranked up the printing presses to buy mortgage securities, treasury securities, commercial paper, and other assets from Wall Street. Those purchases, by the way, led to some nice profits for the Wall Street banks and dealers who sold them to you. And the GSE purchases seem to be illegal since the Federal Reserve Act allows only the purchase of securities backed by the government. On consumer protection, the Greenspan policy was don't do it. You went along with his policy before you were chairman and you continued it after you were promoted. The most glaring example is to

1:45:47 It took you two years to finally regulate subprime mortgages after Chairman Greenspan did nothing for 12 years. Even then, you only acted after pressure from Congress and after it was clear subprime mortgages were at the heart of the economic meltdown. On other consumer protection issues, you only acted as the time approached for your renomination to be Fed Chairman. Alan Greenspan refused to look for bubbles or to try to do anything other than to create them. Likewise, it is clear from your statements over the last four years that you failed to spot the housing bubble despite many warnings. Chairman Greenspan's attitude toward regulating banks was much like his attitude toward consumer protection.

1:46:41 instead of close supervision of the biggest and most dangerous banks, ignored the growing balance sheets and increasing risk. You did no better. In fact, under your watch, every one of the major banks failed or would have failed if you had not bailed them out. On derivatives, Chairman Greenspan and other Clinton administration officials attacked Brooklyn Boern when she dared to raise concerns about the growing risk. They succeeded in changing the law to prevent her or anyone else from effectively regulating derivatives. After taking over the Fed, you did not see any need for more substantial regulation of derivatives until it was clear that they were headed into the financial meltdown thanks in part to those products. The Greenspan policy on transparency was talk a lot,

1:47:43 Use plenty of numbers, but say nothing. Things were so bad, one TV network even tried to guess his thoughts by looking at the briefcase he carried to work. You promised Congress more transparency when you came to the job. You promised more transparency when you came begging for TARP. To be fair, you have published more information than before, but those efforts are inadequate and you still refuse to provide details on the Fed's bailout last year on all the toxic waste that you have bought. And Chairman Greenspan sold the Fed's independence to Wall Street through the so-called Greenspan put. Whatever Wall Street needed a boost, Allen was there.

1:48:39 But you went even farther than that when you bowed to political pressure of the Bush and Obama administrations and turned the Fed into an arm of the Treasury. Under your watch, the Bernanke put became a bailout for all large financial institutions, including many foreign banks. And you put the printing presses into overdrive to fund the government spending and hand out cheap money to your masters on Wall Street, which they use to rake in record profits while ordinary Americans and small businesses can't even get loans for their everyday needs. Now I want to read a quote to you, Mr. Bernanke.

1:49:25 That's a Freudian slip, believe me. Here's a quote. I believe that the tools available to the banking agencies, including the ability to require adequate capital and an effective banking receivership process, are sufficient to allow the agencies to minimize the systemic risks associated with large banks. Moreover, the agencies have made clear that no bank is too big to fail, so that bank management, shareholders, and uninsured debt holders understand that they will not escape the consequences of excessive risk-taking. In short, although vigilance is necessary, I believe the systemic risk inherited in the banking system is well managed and well controlled.

1:50:23 That should sound familiar to you, since it was part of your response to a question I asked about the systemic risk of large financial institutions at your last confirmation hearing. I'm going to ask that the full question and answer be included in today's hearing record. Now if that statement was true and you had acted according to it, I might be supporting your nomination today. But since then you have decided that just about every large bank, investment bank, insurance company, and even some industrial companies are too big to fail. Rather than making management, shareholders, and debt holders feel the consequences of their risk taking, you bailed them out. In short, you are the definition of a moral hazard. Instead of taking that money and lending it to consumers

1:51:21 and cleaning up their balance sheets, the banks started to pocket record profits and pay out billions of dollars in bonuses to their management. Because you bowed to pressure from the banks, and refuse to resolve them or force them to clean up their balance sheets and clean up the management, you have created zombie banks that are only enriching their traders and executives. You are repeating the same mistakes of Japan in the 1990s on a much larger scale while sowing the seeds for the next bubble.

1:52:03 In the same letter where you refused to admit any responsibility for inflating the housing bubble, you also admitted you do not have an exit strategy for all the money you have printed and the securities you have bought. That sounds to me like you intend to keep propping up the banks for as long as they want. Even if that were not true, and I'm a little over my time, but this is very important. The AIG bailout alone is reason enough to send you back to Princeton. First, you told us AIG and its creditors had to be bailed out because they pose a systemic risk, largely because of the credit default swap portfolio.

1:52:55 Those credit default swaps, by the way, are over-the-counter derivatives that the Fed did not want regulated. Well, according to the TARP Inspector General, it turns out the Fed was not concerned about the financial conditions of the credit default swap partners when you decided to pay them off at par. Not at a discount, but at 100%. In fact, the inspector general makes it clear that no serious efforts were made to get the partners to take haircuts. And one bank offered to take a haircut and you declined it. I can only think of two possible reasons you would not make

1:53:43 Then New York President Fed Geithner tried to save the taxpayers some money by serious negotiating or at least taking up UBS on their offer of a haircut. Sadly, those two reasons are incompetence, or a desire to secretly funnel more money to a select few firms. notably Goldman Sachs, Merrill Lynch, and a handful of large European banks. I cannot understand why you do not seek European governments' contribution to this bailout of their banking system. From monetary policy to regulation, consumer protection, transparency, and independence, your time as Fed Chairman has been a failure.

1:54:35 You stated time and again during the housing bubble that there was no bubble. After the bubble burst, you repeatedly claimed the fallout would be small. And you clearly did not support the systemic risk that you claimed the Fed was supposed to be looking out for. When I come where I come from, we punish failure, not reward it. That is certainly the way it was when I played baseball. And it is the way across all America presently. Judging by the current treasurer secretary, some may think Washington does reward failure, but that should not be the case. I will do everything I can to stop your nomination and drag out this process as long as I can. We must put an end to your and the Fed's failure, and there is no better time than now.

1:55:34 Your Fed has become the creature from Jekyll Island. Thank you. Let me just correct one point. First, I'm not sure, I think there's some misunderstanding and misinterpretation of the SIGTARP report, but we absolutely believed that AIG's failure would be an enormous systemic risk and would have imposed enormous damage, not just on the financial system, and this is the key point, on the entire U.S. economy and on every American.

1:56:11 It is not reasonable to talk about letting large firms fail as if that would have no effect on credit extension and on the broader economy. The Lehman example should be enough for everybody. With respect to the counterparties, there's a long discussion there which I won't go into, but I'll just point out one issue you raised. UBS offered a 2 percent discount if and only if all the other counterparties would accept one. That was not the case. We did our best to get a reduction there, but given that AIG was not bankrupt, And given that we were not going to abuse our supervisory power, we really had no way to create a substantial discount. Mr. Chairman, I don't want to take any more time, but the fact of the matter is AIG

1:57:01 AIG was 80% owned at that time by the federal government. I want to just say, and I'm going to quickly turn to others, let me say, and I disagree with my friend and colleague from Kentucky about the conclusion of what happened in your nomination, but I've got to tell you, Mr. Chairman, I mean, going through that period of that time when all the headlines were about the $168 million in bonuses that went out to AIG and virtually no reporting whatsoever on the counterparty issue, And the fact of the matter that we allowed a hundred cents in the dollar to go out to the counterparties with little or no negotiation, just as I've raised the issue with others before, I don't understand that at all in most Americans, though. That was billions of dollars. One company alone was $12.5 billion.

1:57:43 And it's just hard to accept the notion that we couldn't negotiate with the counter-parties at that time. We had no leverage. If we didn't pay off, they would say, you're bankrupt. Well, if we wrote a check for $180 billion to AIG, if we hadn't done that, they would have been in trouble. To AIG, but not to the counter-parties. The counter-parties would have been in trouble, too. Well, that's all true, but the... Most of the firms were foreign. We had no authority or leverage over them. You're the chairman of the Federal Reserve. I don't abuse my supervisory power. Apparently not in that case. Senator Biden. Korean authorities arrested journalist Yoon A Lee and Laura Lin. To consolidate your credit card or other debts? Are you consuming too much mainstream media? Or are you even consumed by them?

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