Episode 1504 · Thursday, 17 November 2022

Value Chain

Celebrity crypto promoters face legal reckoning while global elites at the G20 map out a digital ID future and NASA returns to the moon.

By The No Agenda Show | 3h 9m listen | 38 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1504

About this episode

Tom Brady, Gisele Bündchen, and Larry David face class-action lawsuits for promoting the collapsed FTX cryptocurrency exchange. The legal fallout follows revelations of Sam Bankman-Fried’s unconventional management in the Bahamas, including a $40 million penthouse and questionable fundraising partnerships with the Ukrainian government. While venture capital firms like Sequoia Capital face scrutiny for their due diligence, economist Nouriel Roubini has labeled the entire ecosystem a haven for conmen and carnival barkers.

Global leaders at the G20 summit in Bali signaled a shift toward digital control as Queen Máxima of the Netherlands advocated for the India Stack digital ID system. World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab called for a systemic restructuring of the global economy, while Chinese President Xi Jinping publicly confronted Justin Trudeau over leaked private conversations. In the United States, Governor Greg Abbott invoked constitutional invasion clauses to deploy the National Guard to the Texas border, and House Republicans launched a formal investigation into the Biden family’s international business dealings.

Donald Trump officially announced his 2024 presidential bid from Mar-a-Lago, filing paperwork with the intelligence-linked Chain Bridge Bank. Meanwhile, NASA successfully launched the Artemis 1 moon mission, powered by a multi-generational workforce in Mississippi and Louisiana. The episode also explores the rise of the Fediverse as journalists migrate to Mastodon and the FDA’s recent approval of lab-grown chicken from Upside Foods.


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CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

Podcast Introduction and Host Health Check

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open the program from Texas and Northern Silicon Valley. The hosts discuss Curry's lingering cough and vocal issues following a previous bout with COVID-19. They briefly reference the ongoing FTX collapse before transitioning into the main news cycle.

adam curry· john c dvorak· texas hill country· silicon valley· covid cough

00:00 Go back to printing money! Tooting the Fetiverse and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6. In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry! And from Northern Silicon Valley where everybody's talking about FTX or they're not...I'm John C. Dvorak! That was sloppy on all sides

00:38 sloppy on all sides. So my voice man, it's like when that happened last show my voice is kind of crapping out I'm not quite sure... It sounds exactly the way it always sounded. You'll hear. Well except for the constant coughing That's ever since COVID Yeah probably yes. I think they cough just will linger for about a year or more Hey! I remember having to cough once at lasted Probably four or five months. I remember this we were all very concerned because it wasn't just like a phlegm cough that i have It was like you could hear your lungs vibrating Yeah, yeah, I do we're very concerned about you We had meetings and meetings about meeting

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

FTX Collapse and Celebrity Endorsement Lawsuits

Investors are filing class-action lawsuits against high-profile celebrities including Tom Brady, Gisele Bündchen, Steph Curry, and Larry David for promoting the failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX. The legal actions allege these brand ambassadors participated in a Ponzi scheme by targeting unsophisticated investors. Comedian Larry David is noted for his Super Bowl ad which ironically warned viewers against the platform.

ftx· sam bankman-fried· tom brady· larry david· gwyneth paltrow

01:25 So they're having meetings, you know. We were talking about it... I've got some FTX clips that I'd like to... Because you brought it up people and there's all this thing about the Ukraine involvement and the Democrats getting all of the money and all the rest of it but there are other things in couple of things or these celebrities who got involved. And we're getting sued! I love it! We talked about them and both made the conclusion well you know this guy is just They did all these endorsements and they probably just got paid in FTT or some coin. Combo, combo. So they really didn't... Although some of them did invest but most of them probably didn't invest it just took to you know get do some free stuff course but yes according to a fact is big story in today's Hollywood Reporter these celebrities are all getting sued by investors

02:16 The implosion of the cryptocurrency exchange FTX, one of the most powerful figures in the industry has left investors grappling with the aftershocks. How much of this is effectively an empty product? FTX's CEO Sam Bankman-Fried is facing multiple investigations after reports that he mishandled billions of dollars in customer funds causing the 30 year old to see his own $16 billion fortune erased overnight Now the stunning collapse reverberating across the trillion dollar industry. Gwyneth Paltrow, Reese Witherspoon Kim Kardashian and Matt Damon among the celebrities who have endorsed the crypto craze

02:55 The four simple words that have been whispered by the intrepid since the time of the Romans, fortune favors the brave. So does fortune favor the brave? For those that invested $1,000 in crypto dot com when actor Matt Damon started touting it just over a year ago, that investment is now worth less than 300 dollars today dropping almost 70 percent Bloomberg reporting that billionaire Mark Cuban's investment in the Titan token tumbled 99% this August. Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady bought an equity stake in the now-failed FTX. You know what? I'm in! Along with Brady, tennis Grand Slam champion Naomi Osaka... I love it. ...basketball star Steph Curry and baseball Hall of Famer David Ortiz among top athletes who will reportedly lose millions with the collapse of FTX. Whoa whoa whoa Moom slow down you getting into crypto

03:45 The FDX? But no franchise took a bigger hit than the Miami Heat basketball team, who terminated their 19-year $135 million naming rights deal with FTX leaving them scrambling for a new sponsorship partner one month into the season. That's interesting I have a report little shorter but it has different celebrities which i think is just interesting where was this from what uh what outfit I believe that was from NTD. This is ABC, so let's see if we can find it. Well yes they're gonna probably slant the celebrities but i do want to mention the one thing that wasn't in that report and this just going around now which is the fact of these same celebrities are getting sued by investors

04:27 for doing those ads because it was misleading, they were suckering them. That's my clip! This is a nightmare. Listen... He is among the A-list celebrities being sued for promoting the failed crypto company FTX What do you think? Are you in? You know what Last year Brady and his then wife Giselle Bunchen appeared in this ad for the crypto exchange which filed for bankruptcy last week after at one point being valued at 30 billion dollars. And Brady isn't the only big name at the center of a new class action lawsuit accusing FTX's founder and its brand ambassadors of deceptively targeting unsophisticated investors in what the lawsuit describes as a Ponzi scheme This is Steph Curry, world leading expert on crypto

05:09 cryptocurrency. I'm not. Steph Curry, Shaquille O'Neal and Naomi Osaka are also named as defendants. That's a lot of celebrities. Lawsuit is seeking to recover part of the $11 billion that lawyers claim was lost by consumers. One other celebrity included in the lawsuit? It's FTX it's a safe and easy way to get into crypto I don't think so. And i'm never wrong about this stuff, never. Comedian Larry David who appeared in a Super Bowl ad for FTX jokingly warning people not to use the platform The big names aren't the first to be sued for advertising crypto Just last month Kim Kardashian settled with the SEC For more than $1 million after she promoted a cryptocurrency without revealing that she had been paid a quarter of a million dollars to do so

05:52 I just want to point out that this is all basically altcoin shitcoins, call them whatever you want. ICOs although just by a different name called an exchange token it's still an ICO initial coin offering and this was a problem five six seven years ago and Snoop Dogg lots of people got in trouble for endorsing this crap So, I mean who is advising these people? I do have some thoughts on that but... Well they do have agents. Yeah And they have to go through the agents. Yeah yeah of course. Now there's one little interesting tidbit in there which is that Larry David won He might not get sued because he said no no no I was telling the truth

06:38 That's what I'm thinking, because in his ad he goes, I don't know about these things. It was some negative commentary! I don't know why they used this ad or even invented the ad... Because of creativity? But I wonder if you could sue him because it's like hey here are my exact words. Maybe. These other guys are going to get sued and it is going to be a nightmare for them Now we'll see maybe that'll get fixed up somehow. I don't know I have a couple of the things linger I have no people that got involved in these sort of things they linger Do you in and out of court? It's a nightmare Like I have a few things to discuss guy wasn't gonna do this now. I'm glad you brought it up I got a couple things to do you any more anymore clips one more. I don't think it's about this leverage is just an FTX Oh

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

FTX Australia Liquidation and Management Lifestyle

The collapse of FTX has extended to its Australian subsidiary, leaving thousands of investors without recourse as bankruptcy proceedings primarily cover U.S. operations. Reports emerge regarding the unconventional management style of Sam Bankman-Fried in the Bahamas, including the use of an in-house therapist and a $40 million penthouse. The hosts question how sophisticated venture capital firms like Sequoia Capital were convinced to invest.

ftx australia· bankruptcy· bahamas· sequoia capital· liquidity crisis

07:35 What is this FTX Australia? Oh, Australia. This is a good one yeah. This is what happened in Australia to the investors they don't have Any recourse. And the fallout from FTX is hitting Australia as well, thousands of crypto investors there have found themselves in a precarious situation they now face the risk of losing their entire investment following the collapse of the crypto exchange Investors, crypto markets and regulators were all caught off guard in a dramatic series of events that triggered a massive bank run and withdrawal this caused FTX to collapse due to lack of liquidity The company's bankruptcy proceedings cover FTX US but do not include the subsidiary FTX Australia. It it's all going down everything is is going to melt there's a lot more to come, it's going to be super fun to watch and there's just a lot of information this oh yeah Oh no I love this! This is what any

08:33 toxic Bitcoin maximalist loves to see this, I'll be honest about that. But the Sam Bankman Freed character he has said a lot and he's in a lot of interviews just going all out and you know they had so much to read they had their own therapist who worked there and lived in the Bahamas, and would make sure that they had talking sessions. And of course he also prescribed medication when necessary but it was really nobody almost I mean you know so there's a bunch of jacked up 25 to 35 year olds

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Sam Bankman-Fried and Ukraine Fundraising Connections

Sam Bankman-Fried previously detailed a partnership with the Ukrainian government to use cryptocurrency for raising capital and providing humanitarian aid. Critics examine the flow of millions of dollars through the FTX system during the conflict. The hosts analyze Bankman-Fried's communication style, noting his use of "sloganism" and strange verbal fillers during media appearances.

sam bankman-fried· ukraine· fundraising· cnbc· digital banking

09:13 living in a $40 million penthouse and these very sophisticated investors. I mean, Sequoia Capital...I went through the ringer with Sequoia to get like eight million dollars out of them my butt still hurts It's not that easy. So, you know just to be calling people up there's some either you've got some magic mojo You've got some Some force behind you Or maybe something else is going on here Just one example of one of these where he just talks and talks and kind of covers the ukraine base Although not inconclusive but it's fun to listen to uh I think this is I think it's cnbc And this is before the collapse and also the news model is just

09:56 All jitty over the guy. The last time we talked, you were talking about philanthropy and I know you set up working with the Ukrainian government ways to use crypto to raise money for the government. And I just wanted to ask you quickly because obviously they've also changed the rules concerns about sort of spillover effects and substitution away from their currency. How much money did you raise? And what do you think about this as a tool for the governments but also the risks associated with it too? Yeah, absolutely. And I think that gets to the point that this can be a great thing for the world. It can also be a really messy thing but at its core we've seen millions of dollars go through the systems we've given. I think something close to $1 million ourselves as well

10:44 I just you got to listen to the little bits and pieces that, the shards that fly around. Well there's been millions through our system with Ukraine and we've thrown in a million it's just millions running through it! Absolutely and I think that gets to the point that this can be a great thing for world I think they can also be really messy thing but I think that at its core, we've seen millions of dollars go through the systems we've given. I think something close to a million ourselves as well to support humanitarian aid and growth in Ukraine and when you think about what it would take to get funds

11:28 both to the government there where we do have a relationship with the Ukrainian government for raising capital, using cryptocurrencies. So wait they were fundraising for them? Now they're fundraising. This is so wrong! The government there, we do have a relationship with the Ukrainian government for raising capital for them using cryptocurrencies that runs through FGX whether it's getting money to the government or whether it's getting money to individuals in need you know there are literally tanks outside of banks and this gets to I think one of the places where it can be really important to have a fully digital banking system.

12:13 and fully digital way of handling payments. I think that's an international one, that's the core goal. Solving problems that have been solved already but okay. We've been helping to support in Ukraine. Okay news model? Yeah it's a healthy conversation to be having away from some other noise of digital assets encrypted currencies themselves so that work goes on beneath. Sam great chat you come back soon please because I'm have a million more questions for you but as always not enough time Thank you. Sam Packman-Fried, Dadazia. This guy has also had... he has this quality I've seen this before where people throw in weird shit during the conversation like what is the point of the comment there's tanks outside a banks? What does that got to do with anything? Sloganism

13:05 There's an end in there throughout, but it's not their little rhymes. Yeah, little duties yeah Throughout the piece throughout the conversation that have nothing to do with anything They're fillers one week or I've seen guys talk like this before some very strange subversive MK ultra trying to program The audience give you a little things to think about to hold on to I think I think that's possible yet to be honest about it I don't know that he's doing that on purpose Or is just a style But it's a style I've seen before and it's always been annoying to me because you know, I'm always looking for do believe. And things like that so this kind of thing is like what? I'm gonna finish this up in a minute but I need to say one thing please Do not ask me To come on your podcast and explain the FTX situation

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Explain It Like I'm Five Concept

A discussion ensues regarding the popular internet acronym ELI5, or "Explain It Like I'm Five," which has gained traction on Twitter during the FTX crisis. One host expresses disdain for the phrase, arguing it is a tedious way to request information. The segment touches on the interconnected nature of crypto exchanges like Binance and Coinbase.

tom woods· twitter· eli5· financial literacy· communication

13:52 It's tedious, I don't want to even be associated with what happened there. The whole thing... And here is the one that I really despise and this crops up for me and it has gotten worse People will ask or post but someone, I think it was Tom Woods who asked me this Explain it to me like a five year old! I really despised that A five-year old? You ever talk to a five year old? Well my answer is you'll understand when you grow up. That's how you explain it to a five year old. That's actually how you talked to a 5 year old, he nailed it! Yeah and as you know its E L I FIVE that's uh... It even has little acronym now. Explain it like I'm Five And people... Have you heard this? Its all over Twitter especially with this one yeah Can't explain it like I'm Five No go away where's your mother

14:53 But there is some interesting stuff. Use a napkin! Good one That's the one right there, explain it to me like I'm five use a napkin Very good Now but I will say this totally unnecessary to use all those words is like I do believe I will say this I Do believe I will say this All of this is connected. All of these exchanges, Binance... Yes I think even Coinbase is going to have some weird exposure even though they're a publicly listed company and by the way I used to purchase my Bitcoin through them and now go through one of the like River Financial's just pure that all that's all they do they don't do anything else it's all connected I think it's all going to melt it isn't meltdown

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Nouriel Roubini Criticizes Crypto Ecosystem at G20

Economist Nouriel Roubini, known as "Dr. Doom," delivered a scathing critique of the cryptocurrency industry at a conference in Bali. Roubini labeled the ecosystem as corrupt and populated by "conmen" and "carnival barkers," specifically targeting Binance CEO Changpeng Zhao (CZ). He also criticized Kevin O'Leary for his role as a paid spokesperson for FTX.

nouriel roubini· g20· binance· kevin o'leary· money laundering

15:51 But one of the few times I'll agree with the doomsayer, Dr. Doom Nouriel Roubini he's the Black Swan guy isn't he? Wrote the blacks for... He predicted the black swan event. Not that i know of. Yeah yeah isn't that... Roubini yes! Well keep talking and I'll look it up. Yeah Ruby r-o-u-b-i-n-e No I'm just gonna look at Black Swan and see who wrote it So there's all these different conferences. We have the G20 or if you're Indonesian, the B20 I guess they had to do their own signage called the Bali 20 and you have the global financial conference as all this stuff going on as we speak and Rubini was at the crypto session And he started off with giving us the seven Cs of crypto What are those seven Cs of crypto?

16:43 Concealed, corrupt, crooks, criminals, conmen, carnival barkers and finally CZ was just on the stage right now. I was supposed to debate him a year ago here in the EU. At the last moment, he decided to escape He didn't want to be on this same stage as me Guess what? Two years before I debated Arthur Reyes CEO of BitMax and a week later he was indicted and ended up in jail because I wrote that there was a crook at your seat who was supposed to be here just today Kevin Leary it was a paid hack for FTX

17:22 Good reasons. I hope that CNBC is going to get rid of him Unfortunately, this is an ecosystem that's totally corrupt Unfortunately it is and I think the lesson of the last few weeks is these people should be out of here. I can't believe that Sisi and Binance has a license to operate in the UAE, he's banned in the UK, he's under investigation by US Justice Department for money laundering 8 billion dollar money from Iran and he's here on this stage and his residence in this country The regulators should be thinking carefully That's a walking time bomb I think i was wrong. Nouriel did not write that Black Swan did. Nassim Talib Different Arab name. That's Indian. Yeah, but who cares? Anyway... But he is right! All of this stuff is a ticking time bomb and it all going to come

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

BCCI Bank Scandal as Heuristic for FTX

Analyst Darren Beatty suggests that the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) scandal of the 1970s is a better historical analog for FTX than Theranos. The BCCI model involved intelligence agencies, including the CIA, using the bank for money laundering and operations like Iran-Contra. This comparison suggests potential deep-state involvement or utility in the rise and fall of crypto exchanges.

bcci· darren beatty· cia· money laundering· iran-contra

18:18 melting down either quickly or in different waves and we had another some other thing is failing as well. You said yourself that you saw evidence of these exact same cycle of boom bust with these other companies up to five or six years ago? Yes, I don't think it's gonna happen once this is a slow drip Well right now It's all connected and everything is super leveraged but let's just go back to what Rubini is saying he's like He's basically saying, how is it possible that people are allowing this to take place? Where are the regulators and you know... Hey! The regulators are going after Martha Stewart. It's a dated joke but I still like it we need a new one um and so as I'm just kind of thinking I'm like You know this is because it's all like this

19:19 This is how all of Wall Street operates. It's all bullcrap, it's all corrupt, it's all phantom stock and leveraged and you know but of course there are bailouts in there too big to fail and there are emergency brakes on things that start to crash and there're halts But it's all just like this. That's why no one bats an eye Like oh, it's cool these kids got a going on the same shit over here Hey is the new Wall Street beautiful we can run this And then I heard this guy Darren Beatty on Banyan Show

19:59 And it fits completely with an extension of what I just said. But really, I'd say what you can say about it is this there's some comparisons of FTX to Theranos the famous scandal whereby some scam woman pretended to be a nerd and basically swindled a bunch of old dumb former government revolving door figures including Mad Dog Mattis who crawled away from his litter box for two seconds to get swindled by a young woman But actually the right comparison here is not Theranos, it's actually...

20:37 something called BCCI, which is a bank that was set up in the 70s. It was full of scams everyone was scamming it the depositors were scammed but it wasn't touched for quite some time and the reason it wasn't touched is that part of the people taking advantage of this scam bank were the intelligence agencies themselves and in fact the CIA used the BCCI Bank to conduct various money laundering operations, it was instrumental in the Iran-Contra affair and other things. And so the BCCI model I think is the appropriate sort of heuristic, the antecedent if you will within which we can understand not only FTX but certain other crypto scams that might even have more dire consequences for the

21:27 the crypto community and perhaps the economy at large. And so, the BTCI bank... You've got a big... Yeah. It makes total sense to me what a great way to do your business and to grow it! They were in a growth market? I don't know what you mean by it makes sense that BCCI is the analog. The intelligence services using...? Yeah but you think the intelligence service well they were the Ukrainian thing was in play Yes And God knows what else. I mean, all right? They sure didn't come to their rescue No! Or maybe it was tripped on purpose...I don't know Maybe it was tripped on purpose and the whole idea was doing- It sure got a lot of people

22:22 I mean, big names not you know besides the small investors. Well there's a lot of benefit here. There's no benefit to discrediting Bitcoin is a benefit to discrediting lots of stuff this there's all kinds of benefits in this we'll see where it will see where it lands and In the meantime that it also benefits I guess The...the things at 12 12 banks including the Federal Reserve Bank of New York who are starting a three-month central bank digital currency trial. What? I can't believe that's happening! I know you don't think it'll ever happen... I don't, I don't think our public is ready for it or wants it

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

Queen Máxima and the India Stack Digital ID

Queen Máxima of the Netherlands addressed the G20 summit, advocating for "inclusive digital infrastructure" and the implementation of the "India Stack." This technology combines digital ID cards, payment interfaces, and account aggregators into a single platform. The hosts interpret her speech as a roadmap for a global Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC) system that tracks user data footprints.

queen máxima· g20· india stack· digital id· central bank digital currency

23:15 No, I agree with that but the banking system might need it. The banking system would like it for sure! It's great and a fabulous idea Let me go to the G20 for a moment A big gala opening The second speaker on the list For all of the elites of the G20 or B-20 if you're in your Bali Who could that be? Who could we bring in from the elites to sell something to the good people of the G20, none other than her Royal Highness Queen Maksima. Ladies and gentlemen it is a pleasure to join with you virtually and support Indonesia's B-20 presidency I thank you for this opportunity to put financial inclusion at the heart over discussions Oh there it is! You mean... oh

24:03 People aren't ready for it, but we need to put it at the heart of our discussions people. These are difficult times for people everywhere Yes I will all seek a new ways to tackle the challenges before us from COVID to conflict to inflation to climate change By the way edited the crap out of this Inclusive finance offers new opportunities To build resilience weather shocks and invest in a more prosperous future Okay What does that mean? And there's a reason that I'm going to play this clip because she says certain things in here that triggered me to think about something that is going on in the world, that might be related. So we know that she's the high priestess of central bank digital currency – she has an actual title

24:52 And she's here to sell something. In my work as a UN Secretary General Special Advocate, this is the Angelina Jolie position I have seen the remarkable difference that inclusive digital infrastructure in concert with digital financial services make for people and small businesses We also need continued commitment to put in place a digital financial infrastructure that is inclusive, safe and equitable. Okay so we need a new financial infrastructure the old one does not work well and I would like to point out...I met this woman, I met the Queen, I chatted with her had a nice chat with her she hair-flipped me! I need to remind everyone of that my wife never forgets although man bad hair bad hair

25:41 She was more interested in talking about Ivanka Trump. She didn't say, gee Adam you know what do you think about financial inclusion around the world? Would you expect that some bull crap cocktail thing wouldn't ya? No so this is all scripted Greater connectivity and digital IDs allow access to financial services for millions previously left behind. Fair competition and interoperable payment systems help markets work better for even the smallest scale customers India offers a good example with the India Stack which combines ID cards... Now when she said this

26:22 What did that trigger for you this year? India offers a good example with the India Stack. The India Stack... She said, India stack?! That's what yes and it comes back later the India Stack she's talking about a technology stack now we were just talking about the technology stack. Yeah Elon! Yes! India offers a good example with... Is that coincidence we hear their word stack well you know me Yeah, no. It's not a coincidence I mean especially from the Queen of the Netherlands India offers a good example with the India stack which combines See I didn't understand that when she said it the first time I said in the attack But but No, it's not a word that she should be using there's nothing it's not a word anyone uses why is it suddenly in play because we're at? The implementation stage

27:18 We're ready to bring in the new stack. Yeah, that's what Elon said! Good for you... well they should bring in a new stack Yes yes but the stack listen India offers a good example with the India Stack which combines ID cards our payment interface and account aggregators it one easily accessible platform Okay so digital id payment aggregators okay Public-private collaborations are key for innovation and scale. Public private! Who is good at public private deals? Who knows how to get the government to pay for his businesses? Private-private partnerships that provide services across entire value chains is also crucial, especially for a small business. Value chain... Why's she using the word value chain? What is she, a Silicon Valley geek?!

28:09 Hey man, she's a hip queen. Where is the value proposition? Is that going to be in there too? I wish you would say the total addressable market if she did that then i would poop myself or even better the tam of the stack Suddenly these SMEs leap forward and connect to larger markets beyond their brick-and-mortar presence Critical here is the transparency in the collection, sharing and usage of customers' and SMEs data. Ah yes! Critical is the sharing of data. Who has data? Who collects data that maybe would be less interesting for advertisers? Fuck them... let's piss them off anyway Most customers grant consent without reading the terms and conditions which are often long and hard to comprehend

28:56 Individuals and businesses often do not know the value of the data they create. And even if they do... Hold on a second! How does she transition from dreaming up this system to everyone being a customer now? I mean, we're not citizens. What do you mean by that? How did she get the customer out of the blue like that? She went from public-to-private from private-to-private a public-private partnership and then she said, private partnerships are also important. Value chain! Hello this is why we're here we're in the value chain and what she's saying now is but your data is a valuable part of the value chain that's why we're gonna have Elon look after it. Individuals and businesses often do not know the value or the data they create

29:44 And even if they do, they find it difficult to assert their rights or benefit from the value in the form of better products or lower costs. This is urgent as platform-based businesses increasingly explore using customers' data footprints to embed financial services in social media, eCommerce and entertainment platforms Oh yeah, it's crucial because we're embedding financial services into social networks. Who is doing that? During todays summit you will be able to discuss all these important issues so let us ask

30:28 How can we finance, design and govern this digital stack infrastructure in a more inclusive way? How can we empower individuals and SMEs with their own data? And how can public-private and private-private collaborations further take advantage of these digital transformation possibilities to provide services to the vulnerable as well as enable them to benefit from the digital economy. All I hear say is, take advantage of the vulnerable somehow my brain doesn't... It will require action from all stakeholders. Stakeholders! Especially the many leaders from the business policy and financial sectors here today from Indonesia. There you go

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Digital Economy Impacts on Homeless Populations

The transition to a cashless digital economy is characterized as a potential threat to the homeless, who rely on physical currency. The hosts discuss Berkeley's legal requirement for businesses to accept cash to prevent discrimination. A debate occurs regarding the ubiquity of QR codes, which saw a resurgence during the COVID-19 pandemic for menus and health passports.

berkeley· qr codes· cash laws· digital divide· homelessness

31:12 It's an alley-oop. So obvious to me, I can't help myself! This is an attack on the homeless. Oh! This is a cruel attack on the homeless. Do explain how it's an attack... With a digital economy, the homeless can't ask you for $1. They can't get any money. In fact, in Berkeley it's illegal to be a cat. No but they're going to have the QR code on their jacket! They're not gonna have any QR codes on their jacket. Why not? Because there is no way... The jackets are gonna get stolen from them for one thing. But let's... Berkeley has had to deal with this because of the complaining citizenry there which is that... Can I just stop you?

31:58 The QR code, if someone steals the QR code doesn't match. You don't put the jacket on and then magically money goes to you. Doesn't matter! You won't have your QR code. You won't have a jacket...you won't have nothing They'll tattoo it onto people Well that's a possibility but some people won't want to tattoo Okay But tattooing is one way of doing it just a number A number on the arm, a good long number would work Lightning ID Yeah That's..you know you've seen this This is an attack on the entire world. Yes, it's a very bad idea Now Berkeley has a law that does not allow any operation and it started with one store to be no cash

32:41 You have to accept cash because the homeless don't have credit cards or there's somebody a lot of people don't have credit cards they won't get any this. They're gonna be... This is an attempt for mass murder, the way I see it Yes but it doesn't stop with the homeless! I think you're completely right It doesn't stop with the homeless. No, not everybody will get killed Yes! But uh... Hello? But of course you need to but don't do this idea of population control doesn't You know it doesn't work with me because 11 years ago we had 7 billion people now We have 8 billion people I didn't- hello hello who mentioned population control? You were gonna it was I saw it coming down the road Bullshit! No! You always bring up population control You better be careful with your accusations

33:27 I never blink. This is not about, this is about enslavement! I understand exactly what this is because what are we going to do? What is Ford going to do with 40% less people that it takes to make these automobiles? We gotta put a QR code on them. They're all gonna be homeless Well, I like the idea for a science fiction story there with a QR code on them of all things. Because the QR code is a failure... you know they thought it was an early failure and it caught on late! Yes thanks to COVID No, it was a QR codes were in play long before COVID. They were in play but they had fallen out of favor They were you're not going to tell me you don't think they were revived Thanks to COVID the whole world started using them thanks to the COVID passports that was QR heaven Menus all of a sudden all of that came back with COVID

34:25 I don't think it really went that far away. I don't think QR codes were dead in the water in 2019 They were not being used! They're showing them on televisions, they have them on television at a lower corner You know what? Okay listen... Here's the comparison. You don't watch enough Home Shopping Network That's your problem Here is the comparison Never mind, I'm just talking to a brick wall YOU ARE!!! Yes Why do I even bother? I am a brick wall Yeah, brick wall But thank you for making my case for me. That's exactly the problem with the central bank digital currency, which will be integrated into Twitter and that's why Elon doesn't care! He doesn't care! Yammer yammer yammer he doesn't care it's all lined up it's good to go maybe what they're saying in Germany is stepping-up efforts to print cash just in case there's a blackout this winter What?

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Germany Cash Printing and Host Banter

Reuters reports that German authorities are increasing efforts to print and store cash in anticipation of potential energy blackouts during the winter. The hosts pivot to a personal anecdote about meeting the Dutch royal family and a conversation involving Ivanka Trump in Manhattan.

germany· reuters· cash· blackouts· ivanka trump

35:20 What's crazier what I'm saying or what they're saying? Yeah, actually that's pretty smart It's Reuters reporting go back to printing money. Yes yeah So yeah, they're gonna have cash ready But what are they expecting it was seriously they're expecting everything to go black I mean come on this there's no reason if I was if he had some Some control over it. I would put everything into black and I'm gonna snap them out of this whole idea of you know going green. Here's the a small piece not even a minute, of uh a non-politician beside well you know Queen Moxie Ma is kind of not a politician by the way that little thing you play with that woman...that woman..the queen

36:11 Who wrote this for? I mean, just anything. Yeah, I'd like to know... I don't care what leader there is out there you can't talk like that! Like you're some Silicon Valley jerk-off The digital stack infrastructure It's dumb it's not the way politicians speak ever Well, I would say that you and I would be more than happy with a Currie Dvorak consulting group To write her next speech and make it really punch And hit home and be funny She needs some humor in there. How about a joke? You only need one piece of humor It's hard though because she was on remote, she wasn't in the audience it was pre-taped so and yeah she's nervous about reading English I mean it's amazing that she can do all of that

36:54 and lead the world down a path of destruction and slavery. What does she want to know about Ivanka Trump? That's what she cares about, that's all she wanted to chat about! I love New York, I love Manhattan... So yeah man, I lived in Manhattan. Well where'd you live? 56th and Broadway. Oh yeah well you know Ivanka my friend Ivanka lives around there. Hang out with Ivanka? Yeah yes that was our conversation and then the King came back upstairs When I had that special lunch with the king and queen, do you not remember? No. I don't. Okay... Did you get the Marconi award?

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Klaus Schwab and Global Structural Restructuring

World Economic Forum founder Klaus Schwab spoke at the G20 summit about a "deep systemic and structural restructuring" of the world. Schwab described the current era as a "multi-crisis" involving economic, political, and ecological shifts. He emphasized the transition toward a multipolar world that may become more fragmented during the process.

klaus schwab· world economic forum· g20· multipolar world· transition

37:29 Right after that, yes. Because I got the Marconi Award and then I had lunch with the king and then the queen was chatting with me... And they were going to meet up with you down in Austin at one point? No! That never happened. She landed in Austin, got on a bike rode around and never called me. Yeah, I remember that Anyway, so other royalty was there. This is just a piece of it but it's the important piece that everyone probably saw. Herr Klaus Schwab apparently also very important person to have at the G20 summit of politicians and countries and nations and oh! The World Economic Forum Of course if you look at all the challenges we can speak about multi-crisis

38:20 an economic, a political, social and ecological and institutional crisis. But actually what we have to confront is the deep systemic and structural restructuring of our world. And this will take some time. As the world will look differently after we have gone through this transition process Politically, the driving forces for this political transformation of course is the transition into a multipolar world which has the tendency

39:07 to make our world much more fragmented. You just want to give the guy the hook, but you have to take it seriously I know you do but let's take apart his words a multipolar world means that we will always be at war with Eurasia i presume something like that The North American Union will prevail Well lets play those North American Union clips that I have here There is the alley-oop ladies and gentlemen John C. Dvorak for the hoop Amaro baby NTD. Talk of an EU style of government in the Americas has raised red flags with US Congressman Matt Gaetz, The congressman wants answers from Secretary of State Antony Blinken. NTD's Daniel Monahan has the story Mexico's president says he has been holding discussions with U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken The topic is the possibility of merging the American continent into one government based on a model of the European Union

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North American Union and EU-Style Integration

Congressman Matt Gaetz is seeking answers from Secretary of State Antony Blinken regarding potential discussions with Mexican President López Obrador about merging the American continent into a union similar to the EU. The proposal involves consolidating the U.S., Canada, and Mexico under a regional constitution. Critics argue this move would undermine national sovereignty and formalize open-border policies.

matt gaetz· antony blinken· lopez obrador· north american union· usmca

40:08 President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador says Blinken talked about consolidating the North American region and that it is something they both agreed on. The Mexican president continued that he is in favor of the unity of the entire American continent, the integration of Canada, the United States all of the Americas representative Matt Gates sounded the alarm on Fox News I don't want my constituents having to live under the socialist tyrannical lockdown down, enacted by Justin Trudeau Castro while their nephews being poisoned by Mexican fentanyl. But that apparently is the globalist order that the Biden administration supports here as they give away our money and our chance of a brighter future overseas. Concerned that Blinken appears to be having such discussions abroad he sent a letter to the secretary to find out more

40:56 He asks the following questions. One, is it your position that the North American continent should be united by a regional constitution to further the economic interests of its member states? And two is the position of the Department of State that the United States Canada and Mexico should become a union of states formed in the likeness of the European Union? A spokesman from Gates's office recently said that the congressmen hadn't yet received a response from Blinken. Where does do you remember where the The USMCA fits into this? Wasn't that one step closer, the United States Mexico Canada agreement. Yeah but in this case they actually want to bring in most of Central America Oh yeah right come on people! And which accounts for the fact that they just opened the border because though we've already done this because it's like the Schengen Agreement just come on yeah you fly or go anywhere where you want even though you can't get into Canada without a vaccine

41:53 Um, this is part two of this. Blinken traveled to Latin America to attend the Organization of American States General Assembly that is a United Nations style organization that was formed in 1948 at the completion of the summit The 35 member countries adopted the Lima Declaration titled together against inequality and discrimination During his remarks in Lima Blinken said in his words when all communities have equal access to development all of society benefits and because more equal democracies tend to be more stable and secure partners. The Lima Declaration describes its goals within the diversity equity inclusion framework it is a framework that is criticized for favoring diversity over merit, an assumption that white people are inherently racist. The declaration focuses on economic issues climate change and bolstering inclusion for minority groups especially around gender

42:45 It states that there is a need to achieve significant financing increases and investment from a wide variety of public and private sources. It also calls for international development cooperation, to achieve diverse fairer and more prosperous societies. American taxpayers fund nearly 50% of the organization of American States budget which in 2023 is set to be more than $90 billion dollars." Regional analyst Orlando Gutierrez-Borenat told the Epoch Times that a consolidated North American region could offer mutual economic benefits and create regional stability. However, he says a supranational union of that sort must be based on solid principles of freedom and democracy not on what he calls the absurd ambiguity towards the tyranny of for instance President López Obrador in Mexico

43:30 Some critics of Mexico's president believe the country's democracy is fragmenting under Obrador. They cite the silencing of critics, defunding regulatory agencies and looting state-controlled trusts. The same week Blinken was in Peru he met with Colombia's newly elected leftist President Gustavo Uribe. Gustavo Petro. Petro is a former member of the M19 guerrilla group, which was a 1970s-era Marxist organization. They discussed climate action, the migration crisis and a holistic approach to countering narcotics trafficking in the region Yeah, this is already so there. This is already... I was just talking to Tommy our landscaper he was gonna help us with some trees and he was complaining about his pizza not being delivered finally an hour late it shows up and He of course being a racist Texan assumes are you Mexican because didn't speak any English no Venezuelan? I mean they're already integrated completely. Venezuela is cute yeah, I'm from Venezuela

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Chuck Schumer and Immigration Labor Demands

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer stated that the United States faces a labor shortage due to a declining birth rate and must embrace immigrants to ensure economic growth. Schumer advocated for a path to citizenship for 11 million undocumented individuals. The hosts discuss this as a strategy by elites to maintain a "slave" labor force rather than encouraging domestic family growth.

chuck schumer· dreamers· labor shortage· population· citizenship

44:29 Yeah, yeah. Don't call me a Mexican. Dems fighting words! Those fighting words can do that I'm just saying this idea of the what's why does gender go to the top of the list by the way with the inclusion thing? Why is that at the top of the list it was very clear in there that as far as Blinken is concerned gender inclusion is more important than anything else this gender thing why because he's insane He is crazy. In fact the whole government is yes, and then what is the What is this? What does this holistic approach? filler to drug trafficking What does that mean uh? These are gonna lose it was a holistic approach to fighting drug drug trafficking total filler words

45:17 Means nothing. I mean, in this case we'll all look at it and go well can we get our peace? Yeah, get piece of the action in the drug trafficking stacks working The drug trafficking stack nice You know before we play your third clip this makes total sense with what Chuck Schumer said yesterday or the day before now more than ever We're short of workers We have a population that is not reproducing it on its own with the same level that it used to. The only way we're going to have a great future in America, is if we welcome and embrace immigrants – the dreamers and all of them because our ultimate goal is to help the dreamers but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million or however many undocumented there are here." Tell me that isn't exactly what the former New York banker said?

46:12 It's all they care about, stacking up people. So you're right I am talking about population but not in the way you presume it These people, the elites want as many people as possible you know, smart educated integrated people. No they want people who come from a different culture and can be treated as slaves! Hey you're a slave until we make you legal so ha-ha-ha I'm gonna hold this over your nose all year long and keep that going That's all they want? And meanwhile dogs everyone's got a dog

46:50 Shouldn't we be encouraging having families and making babies? We might have done 50, 60 years ago maybe. No it's discouraged by the colleges and universities by the high schools by the whole upbringing and maybe that's why gender is so important. We want to make sure that we have compatible genders coming in to make more and that they're incompatible with our fluidity All of this seems diabolical. It is diabolical! The way I'm viewing it today... Third clip here? That's the theme for today, let's go to part three. In Chile Blinken met with socialist president Gabriel Boric to discuss similar issues. Boric has open ties to Chile's communist party meanwhile there is another player wooing the United States southern neighbors

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Xi Jinping Confronts Justin Trudeau at G20

Chinese President Xi Jinping publicly confronted Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at the G20 summit over leaked details of their private conversations. Xi accused Trudeau of being insincere after reports surfaced that the Prime Minister had raised concerns about Chinese interference in Canadian elections. Video of the encounter shows a tense exchange before Xi abruptly walked away.

xi jinping· justin trudeau· g20· election interference· canada

47:43 China is now South America's largest trading partner. With its Belt and Road Initiative, the CCP has sunk sizable investments into the region and is now one of its biggest lenders The CCP has built ports roads dams and major power projects throughout Latin America over the past 20 years Hey do you think this is maybe why? And it doesn't make sense to play because the audio was so bad You have to read it Why Xi publicly humiliated Trudeau Because they're already in, they're taking over. They're getting ready for the Belt and Road extension through the North American Union Did you see that dress down he did?

48:22 I did not. Tell me about it, I mean I knew this was there's a back and forth going on between Trudeau and Xi there is no doubt about that. Now we'll do something that we love doing on the show i will read along live for you its only one minute long. I will read the translators words. Okay hold on let me just set the stage so this is at the G20 they're kind of hanging out in the lobby where all the stands are, the booth the booths like, hey get your climate change fix here those booths and Trudeau is just hanging around and Xi comes right up to him which I don't think i've ever seen Xi come up to somebody and talk to them in their face. And he's in his face and they'll look at it but he won't really look at him! He's like talking spitting at him and then he turns to the translator. Translator starts off

49:10 If everything we discussed with them leaked to the paper, that's not appropriate. And that is not the way the conversation was conducted. If there is sincerity on your part, oh in Canada we believe in free open and frank dialogue. And I hope that's what we'll continue to have We will continue to work constructively together but there will be things you disagree on and she puts his hands up like hey shut the fuck up let's create conditions first he smiles shakes his hand doesn't look at him walks away this is a video everyone should watch because Trudeau walks away like he pooped his pants

49:56 He literally is almost keeling over and he scurries away. So what happened is Trudeau, someone in the Trudeau government leaked to the papers that Trudeau had been a big guy on campus and said hey Xi here at the G20 I told you to go stop meddling in our elections stuff man! That's what happened so Xi went up and said dude you leaked that to the paper and that's not what went down. I found it quite extraordinary actually the G would do that. Well, we'll have to see what becomes of it but it's uh... well I know that this was going on because Trudeau has been trying to you know get make

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Governor Greg Abbott Invokes Invasion Clauses

Texas Governor Greg Abbott invoked the "invasion clauses" of the U.S. and Texas Constitutions to authorize unprecedented border defense measures. These include deploying the National Guard to repel immigrants, building a border wall, and designating Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Abbott also sent the first bus of illegal immigrants to Philadelphia as part of his ongoing protest against federal policies.

greg abbott· texas· border security· national guard· philadelphia

50:38 make hay with his own public by kind of condemning the Chinese, even though they're partners in many things. And I guess this ticked off his... It really ticked him off! Meanwhile speaking about- So I was unfamiliar that this little event happened. That's interesting Yeah it's pretty cool. It's all cooler than me. Cool man. Meanwhile- Maybe they'll bomb him Not to be outdone by Hurricane DeSantis Ron Superstar DeSantis in Florida, our governor Greg Abbott tweeted out I invoke the invasion clauses of the US and Texas Constitution to fully authorize Texas to take unprecedented measures To defend our state against an invasion. I am using that constitutional authority And other authorization and executive orders to keep our state and country safe And then he has a list Of what he's going to do We all want to hear

51:31 Yeah, because no one reported on this and it is from his Twitter account. One deploy the National Guard to safeguard our border and to repel and turn back immigrants trying to cross the border illegally. Deploy the Texas Department of Public Safety DPS to arrest and return to the border immigrants who crossed illegally and deployed DPS to arrest illegal immigrants for criminal activity Build a border wall in multiple counties on the border. Deploy gunboats to secure the border. PT-109! Designate Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Interesting, same thing Trump said. Enter into a compact with other states to secure the border. Enter into agreements with foreign powers to enhance border security and provide resources for border counties to increase their efforts to respond to the border invasion." I mean that's kind of fighting words!

52:34 Not much for him. I'm liking his attitude today. I have a little clip here that talks about it better do something about he'd be still busing people away and here's this illegals to Philly clip which talks about this latest, I mean the border. But first, let me bust some of these people to Philly okay? I'll be right back." Border Patrol reported a record 2.2 million encounters with illegal immigrants along the border in the fiscal year 2022 which ended in September it's the first time that numbers exceeded two million in one year and Texas Governor Greg Abbott has sent his first bus of illegal immigrants to Philadelphia It was scheduled to arrive Wednesday morning

53:17 Governor Abbott's been sending illegal border crossers from Texas to sanctuary cities to protest what he calls Biden's open border policies. He says since Philadelphia's mayor fought hard to get sanctuary city status, it is an ideal place to send people In the past, Abbott sent buses to New York, Chicago and the nation's capital. He says he'll continue doing so until the Biden administration tightens border security to prevent illegal immigrants from pouring into his state. Hmm hmm. Did you well? You probably didn't hear with the news this morning The

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House Republicans Launch Joe Biden Investigation

Republicans on the House Oversight Committee announced a formal investigation into President Joe Biden and his family's international business schemes. The committee alleges evidence of federal crimes including wire fraud, tax evasion, and violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. The investigation seeks to determine if the President has been compromised by foreign influence.

joe biden· house oversight committee· hunter biden· wire fraud· human trafficking

53:54 The Republicans now with their swagger, they got the swagger because they got the majority in the House. Yep! They're not wasting any time but wasting lots of our time actually and taxpayer money and all the stuff that we want because here it comes. We are releasing a report today that details what we have uncovered. We are also sending letters to Biden administration officials and Biden family associates renewing our request for voluntary production of documents relevant to this investigation This is an investigation of Joe Biden, the President of the United States and why he lied to the American people about his knowledge in participation in his family's international business schemes. National security interests require the committee conduct investigations that we will pursue all avenues, avenues that have long been ignored. Committee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by and to the benefit of members of the president's family these include conspiracy or defrauding the United States

54:50 Wire fraud, conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, violations of the Trafficking Victims Protection Act tax evasion money laundering and conspiracy to commit money laundering The Biden family's business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking To potential violations of the Constitution In the 118th Congress, this committee will evaluate the status of Joe Biden's relationship with his family's foreign partners and whether he is a president who has compromised or swayed by foreign dollars and influence. Foreign dollars? I want to be clear This is an investigation of Joe Biden And that's where the committee wil focus in this next congress

55:38 Yeah, right everybody you know what's coming John thousands of sealed indictments Where's Joe did Geneva we need oh he'll be surfacing so you'll be back. He'll be no doubt here out the January 6th committee in the House. Yeah, well that's just one of the things that we expect to change when you look at this slim majority that Democrats have on the Senate side and Republicans have on the House side. You can see how difficult it is going to be for President Biden and Congress to get anything done these last two years of President Biden first term.

56:34 By the way, that was a January 6th committee. It should have been done in the Senate in the first place although I think it probably been harder to lock out the Republicans as they did in the House. Right yeah that would have been impossible but this now is just going to be flipped and uh the committee's gonna be... Oh yeah oh yeah okay you know uh I watched Trump announced did you watch it? I watched it, yeah. I got to some clips of you and the rundown clip of Trump running 2024 and a half, a couple Biden threat clips that came out of the same reporting Well first just a general impression about his announcement so of course i was disappointed that he did not shake it all up by announcing as the MAGA party America's First Party That was too bad

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Donald Trump 2024 Presidential Candidacy Announcement

Donald Trump officially announced his 2024 candidacy for President of the United States during a speech at Mar-a-Lago. The former president adopted a more disciplined tone, focusing on inflation, energy independence, and border security rather than the 2020 election. The hosts analyze the lack of media "drama" in the announcement and the potential impact on Republican donors.

donald trump· mar-a-lago· 2024 election· inflation· border security

57:31 I understand his strategy is, all right you like Ron DeSantis he's Trump without the drama so i'll give you no drama and he also gave foreign policy and things that you know I don't think DeSantis or anyone else can comment on certainly not now. So uniquely he can do that He was very calm he didn't say anything really about the 2020 election Yeah but not the drama He didn't call anyone by their cool nickname. So while I understand that, you get no media coverage when you're just boring? That was his whole hook! Have you really seen a lot of clips of him? No. It's boring. Yes hyperbole... You got the New York Times editorial board with a pre-written piece that would have read a lot better if he had done crazy shit that night

58:27 But it didn't. It was like, you know... Trump says this! He's pretty factual CNN. We fact-checked Trump and when I read the CNN headline we fact checked Trump my heart sank and I felt kind of like Like the air let out of me like do we really have to go through this again? Will we have other things to do? You know what I mean did you not have any of that you didn't feel kind of tired tired of it Oh, I've been tired of it before this happened. And my argument is well...I mean Trump you know would maybe catch up with last time if he got in but the problem with having Trump being elected again is that you can't re-elect him

59:17 So you'd have another one-term operation here and then the Democrats would probably win in 2028. Probably with Gavin Newsom or somebody like that, as opposed to DeSantis who if you put him in and he's Trump lite there's no doubt about it and he could pick himself up a little bit. Trump would be nice if we would help him but he won't do that because he's too prideful but if DeSantis became president he could be reelected and that would push off Gavin Newsom to 2032 or beyond, or if ever. And I think it would be a benefit you can't do that with Trump would you be another one-term deal with the Republicans and it'd be a mess and it would also be a mess from all kinds of other perspectives then I don't like this Trump reading from the prompter and I put it in the newsletter very good analysis of this

1:00:06 Trump made a big fuss when he ran in 2016 about Obama's teleprompter and he'll never do it and blah blah blah, and now he's like Glued to the prompter and he read and he's not a good prompter reader. He's he's dull now He's so bomb I can already he switches So obviously and then he goes and then it just goes into reading mode yeah, I agree okay Now he's he's a lousy prompter reader obama was a good orator he and you know but trump He won't have anyone coach him on this, obviously. And he down talks in a funny way and his style is almost some nambulistic. It's very tiresome to listen to. Nambulistic? Hold on! You can't throw me off. Look it up, SOM.

1:01:00 I'm not a fan. I think we've seen Trump do his thing and blah, blah, blah but let's listen to these clips. Hold on a second! You don't just throw out your whole opinion and then shut up Adam here's listen to some clips? Blow me! Well you do that to me constantly Noooo I don't do that...I always let my elders go first Uh-huh. Apparently I'm not included in that. Well, what i'm seeing and by the way as predicted all of Republican mega donors are certainly being announced as pulling back for sure. Oh yeah, we don't know any of that to be true. No but you know well some of them have come out and said it. Everyone's pointed out there is a concerted effort to keep Trump from doing this I mean there's a very big article and list on CNBC so i'll take them with some if they're quoting people saying no no we are not going back him anymore

1:01:58 and it's quite an extensive list. Now of course, he didn't need anybody's money to win the first time either... And I'm trying- He got Shelly and somebody so he's got some- But I know but I'm just trying to figure out what the strategy is because this is not the way, he has no Twitter, he doesn't have any of that, he doesn't have The Voice if he's not crazy they're not gonna use clips from him So I'm just trying to now what he saying I agree, I'd say most of what he said I agree with. The state whether he was responsible for it or not but what happened in a couple years and how the way things were now I think we were still destined for this inflation all that and he kind of weaseled out of the vaccine by saying anybody who any government worker military could

1:02:44 who got fired or had to leave for refusing forced vaccination, they should be reinstated with full back pay etc. So that's how he is kind of trying to weasel out of that I just don't understand the strategy and Occam's razor says he has lost the plot He has the right idea but he has no way to execute anymore so now let us listen to clips Start with a I'm not disagreeing with anything you said there. Trump running 2024 America's comeback starts right now

1:03:33 Trump addressed guests at Mar-a-Lago with a sobering tone on Tuesday night. He called attention to the current state of the nation under President Biden's administration We are here tonight to declare that it does not have to be this way Trump decried the crisis at the southern border, record high inflation and violent crime rates In order to make America great and glorious again I am tonight announcing my candidacy for president of United States The former president says he wants to tackle inflation and vowed to immediately reinstate border security policies like remain in Mexico if elected. He also promised to be tough when it comes to dealing with China, and touted the benefits the country received from the trade war when he levied tariffs against them. We were getting hundreds of billions of dollars many people think that because of this China played a very active role

1:04:27 in the 2020 election. Just saying, just saying." Sure that didn't happen. If Trump wins another presidential bid it would make him only the second president in history to serve non-consecutive terms This will not be my campaign this will be our campaign all together He described the task as being not for any one individual, but as a movement involving all walks of life, ethnicities and political backgrounds. We love both sides we're going to bring people together, we're going to unify people President Biden tweeted out Donald Trump failed America following the announcement Aides filed the official paperwork with the US Federal Election Commission earlier in the day setting up a committee called Donald J Trump for president 2024

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Media Coverage and Trump's Campaign Bank

The hosts examine ABC News' relatively factual coverage of Trump's announcement and investigate the "Chain Bridge Bank" in McLean, Virginia, where the campaign filed its paperwork. The bank is run by Peter Fitzgerald and is noted for its connections to the political and intelligence establishment in Northern Virginia.

abc news· jonathan karl· chain bridge bank· peter fitzgerald· mclean

1:05:14 Okay, I have a show note here. This is boring! The information is good and NTD does a much better job of anyone else but...I can't- I'm losing my focus of how he's talking so and it's nothing to deconstruct We do need some other things besides NTD. Okay, I'm going back to democracy now. Here's ABC. In order to make America great and glorious again... ...I am tonight announcing my candidacy for President of the United States ABC's Jonathan Karl is at Mar-a-Lago right now. In fact, he's outside of the room where he was watching this play out. I mean this is a report! Jon, this seems rather different from the Golden Escalator speech can you just describe this announcement? Yeah first it was much more disciplined Donald Trump He basically stuck to the script

1:06:07 you know, gave a speech that Republicans... the kind of speech they want him to give which is contrasting what they see as the successes of the Donald Trump administration with other problems facing America now under Joe Biden. We are failing nation for millions of Americans in the past two years under Joe Biden have been a time of pain hardship anxiety and despair As we speak, inflation is the highest in over 50 years. When Trump was president we had low inflation and the border was secure. America had good relations with China and North Korea and Iran and Russia were in check... ...and now that the whole world's falling apart I mean that's...

1:06:54 Not really the portrait of reality, but it's the kind of contrast that Republicans would like him to focus on rather than talking endlessly about how the 2020 election was stolen and all that kind of stuff. Let's deconstruct why ABC is doing this! They are actually making Trump sound good versus Joe Biden in this case That's bizarre. I mean they could have done every, every... They could have done a whole bunch of different kinds of coverages but to say well you know everything Trump said is kind of true it's not exactly kind of but is kind of feels like it? That was an attack on Biden by ABC! I had to think about that it sounded like it But John Carl who's anti-Trumper to an extreme who did that report Is he a spook?

1:07:55 I don't know, that's a good question. I'll tell you why and so this is a weird thing to take for what you want So i wanted to look at someone sent me the registration of him filing to run for president And and i wanted to see okay what's in this doc it's very It's one page and it says right yeah as a republican like maybe there's some Weird language in there? And then i see this bank the official bank of the campaign. And it's a bank in McLean, Virginia which immediately was like what? That's interesting! Yeah and this is... What is the name of this thing? It's run by a guy named Peter Fitzgerald

1:08:38 And he has traditionally been kind of like a dark money type of bank guy. You know, he was somehow involved with the Valerie Plame CIA case... It's like this joke in Washington DC that he has spook money He is in McLean which it's just like Berkeley You know, he's a McLean Virginia. It means a lot. So I was just thinking what just the weird thought? What if Trump is going to a different intelligence agency and gone from defense to other intelligence maybe CIA Fitzgerald is definitely Republican conservative dude, a fixer, I think too but that's where all the money's going so... Well that would account for the report

1:09:33 That's kind of what I was thinking. It is possible, it is possible. Yeah and Carl could be because he's very unusual in a lot of different ways but let's go... So they brought this guy on NTD and I agree with you that there's less drama to these reports but they bring in some guys once or while do little interview with him and this is an interesting one. This is the Trump Biden threats NTD Joining us now is Lee Smith, columnist and author of The Plot Against the President. He's also the host of Over The Target on Epic TV. Great to have you on to discuss former president Trumps big announcement Lee. President Biden last week said that his administration has to demonstrate that Trump will not take power if he runs. Biden said they will use legitimate efforts of the Constitution to ensure Trump will not become president again. Do you expect Biden will use the DOJ or another federal agency to hurt Trump chances at becoming president again?

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Biden Administration Threats and Mar-a-Lago Documents

Author Lee Smith discusses President Biden's comments regarding "legitimate efforts" to ensure Trump does not take power again. Meanwhile, a Washington Post report suggests that many of the documents seized during the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago were personal souvenirs rather than high-level state secrets. The hosts joke about creating "Top Secret" folders for the show's merchandise shop.

lee smith· doj· fbi· mar-a-lago· washington post

1:10:25 Well, certainly they've been doing that. That's what the Democrats have been doing and Joe Biden has been part of that operation since he was Barack Obama's vice president in 2016 so I have no doubt that Joe Biden used the Department of Justice, the FBI and whatever instruments are under his unlawful control The way he's weaponized these different institutions to target his political opponents Joe Biden has just made clear what everyone is seeing happening since 2016. If Joe Biden wishes to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president, then Joe Biden should focus his energies on governing the country correctly, governing the country reasonably to cultivate American peace and prosperity and then he can

1:11:08 run against Donald Trump in 2024. That's how he can prevent him from becoming president, not by weaponizing the agencies he and his progressive faction have been using since 2016 against Trump, Trump aides and Trump supporters. You know what was the premise of this little discussion? It kind of eludes me Did Biden actually threaten? Yes. In such a way, I mean i've heard all these speeches and- No, I played the clip on this very show! Let me see it was... Find the clip again please Yeah yeah It was just recent, I know it's recent Under what circumstances Here is it, here is it, I think this is it Okay let me see if this is it He has to demonstrate that he will not take power

1:11:56 by, if he does run making sure he under legitimate efforts of the archives of constitution does not become the next president again. We discussed this very clip Yes we did but where did what was the... Where'd this come from? This was a news conference Biden did I thought it was one-on-one interview with someone Well, was he sitting across or something That i don't know that I can't remember It's interesting they would yeah well it brought I seem to have suppressed it because, uh...I do remember the clip. But i don't remember being as serious as these guys make it out to be and then now that they bring up in these terms I'm thinking well its because I just hear Biden babbling like a moron but okay. Let's go to Trump-Biden threats too Federal law enforcement agencies are weaponized to target Joe Bidens political opponents It's sick

1:12:55 This is unconstitutional and it's disgusting. And it's not just the Mar-a-Lago raid, we've seen Joe Biden use the FBI to go after January 6th defendants to go after them and now we understand by the way how many FBI confidential human sources were on the grounds of The Capitol on January six to frame Trump supporters. We've seen them go after school parents who object to the Biden administration's push for CRT as well as trans ideology, so again the Mar-a-Lago raid is certainly a big part of it. And now it turns out I think was it Washington Post? Yes Washington Post published a piece that uh...as you predicted by the way

1:13:44 That the documents that Trump had at Mar-a-Lago pretty much just souvenirs. Just shit to have, the stuff that you were saying and exactly like you would love to have some top secret folders just to put documents in so The Washington Post admitted that's kind of what it seems it was Yeah makes sense I'd love to have some of those top secret folders. Those are, i'm sure some you know why do I think that some of our producers just might...I think that maybe the no agenda shop should just make some. Just make some! Yeah Top secret for your eyes only. Somnambulism an abnormal condition of sleep in which motor acts such as walking are performed like zombie

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Maricopa County Election Grievances

A resident named Matt Baker delivered a viral speech at a Maricopa County City Council meeting, comparing the botched election process to a bank losing a customer's life savings. The testimony highlighted public frustration with voting machine failures and the perceived corruption of local election officials.

maricopa county· matt baker· election integrity· city council· voting

1:14:34 Yeah, somnambulistic is the word I used specifically. Very good word! Oh it's a great word. I'm well impressed with your prowess. Somnambulism. No, sambulism... Show title for sure I don't know, maybe not. So here's the problem so this is new and improved Trump he's getting some love from ABC oddly enough ABC John Carl I don't know is it as the chain bridge bank by the way isn't there who knows if there's some connection there but meanwhile the base MAGA country

1:15:13 is pretty much like Matt Baker. Matt Baker goes to lots of city council meetings, you've probably seen him he has kind of like... He has some dreadlocks and a beard and it looks like he might be the dude named Ben but his name is Matt And he went to the Maricopa City Council meeting, and this is how Trump's base feels. Good morning! Once again the eyes of the world are upon Maricopa County for another botched election Am I here to accuse you of stealing the vote? Heavens no for that would make me a terrorist wouldn't it

1:15:55 Let me ask you, if you took your life savings to a bank and the teller put them in the machine and the machine kicked out one out of four of your bills. And the teller said don't worry we'll put them in box three over here and will let you know how many were in there later We'll send him off to a separate location and someone will be sure to get back to you and tell you how much money you have Would you be okay with that? No, you would not be okay with that. Now ask yourself the question which is more valuable? Your vote or your money now

1:16:34 Now ask a lobbyist that same question. Now, ask a campaign manager that question! Now ask Mark Zuckerberg that question which is more valuable? Your money or your vote or your country or this world or the corruption that is taking over every single county in this nation?! And then you look into your own soul and you look back at yourself at yourself in the mirror and realize that you are the cancer that is tearing this nation apart! Good day. Thank you, our next speaker... I love the ending. Thank you for your courage And that's how a lot of people feel not necessarily about the election but just in general and he just it was good he did it within his two-minute allotment He got it out and I just love how

1:17:32 No one cares. Thank you, next speaker. Next speaker? I just want to play this one clip before we do anything else... Before you do that, looking at the John Carl bio he has no earmarks whatsoever being a spook. In fact they graduated from Vassar Hmm a girl school. It's not even the spook adjacent Spooky Jason so he has no there's nothing and there's always a giveaway, you know If you look at this stuff, even they try to cover it up There's some always some little item in there that let you know No, nothing zip There was this clip that I

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Healthcare Debt and Insurance Shrinkflation

The hosts discuss the massive scale of healthcare debt in the United States, noting it is a topic often ignored by mainstream media due to pharmaceutical advertising. They describe "shrinkflation" in the insurance industry, where premiums remain high while deductibles increase and services are reduced.

bill gates· healthcare debt· oscar health· insurance· deductibles

1:18:16 Been meaning to say this for two shows and specifically because maybe you can bring it up with Horowitz or maybe you guys will bump I just want to put it in your ear because Looking at some of the numbers. Yeah, I'll play this clip from Bill Gates It's I don't know where it's from but it was a it was It was the numbers that he was talking about. I don't want to talk about the death panel,

1:19:00 It's the amount of money and I was looking at some numbers. Oh there, I think there was a big demonstration maybe it was Egypt people can't afford health care and i'm looking at healthcare debt in the United States? It far outstrips anything! And people you know like your insurance pays for stuff but they're people with hundreds of thousands of dollars and then just on a forever payment plan and one hiccup and their done, their out. the real problem that no one's looking at. Have you heard anything about health care debt? Well, considering that the drug companies and health HMOs do so much advertising

1:19:47 on mainstream media that you'll never hear anything about something like that. That's a good point, I think no I have not! You know and I think I explained why Yeah but it's got yes probably unbelievable and it should be something should be done about it instead of what forgiving student loans yeah there you go just the thought let everybody anyway now I don't see how any...I mean my insurance company Oscar You know, it's like hey you know we see that you're paying us uh is it not like sixteen seventeen hundred dollars a month for the two of you? Since you don't use it since your deductible is eight thousand dollars why don't you get our bronze plus package ya loser. Yeah which means I just got shrinkflation down and pay pretty much the same but I get less services in a higher deductible. Yeah hello good work this is not okay it's not

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Mastodon and the Rise of the Fediverse

As Twitter undergoes changes, a significant number of journalists and public figures are migrating to the Fediverse, specifically Mastodon. The hosts discuss their long-term involvement with No Agenda Social and observe that reporters are now setting up their own "instances" to maintain independence from centralized social media platforms.

mastodon· fediverse· no agenda social· journalists· twitter

1:20:50 Yeah, you got a long ways to go before you get to Medicare. You'll probably be ratcheted up by the time...you'll probably be up to 70! Well the good news is my wife is going to live forever congratulations to The Keeper and her 75 hard group day 75 today as she lost 10 inches more than ten inches. She lost ten inches? Is she shorter now how tall is she? Yes The metric is waist and arms, I think. And boobs... breast... chest... whoops! Anyway there are some people who lost 30 pounds in the 75 days it's unbelievable so that she's gonna outlive me one thing i wanted to get all the podcasting gear

1:21:43 She's like, could you sign a couple of checks just in advance? Just in case from Mechanics Bank. I just want to have a couple you never know because it's not on the account but come in handy. Could come in handy exactly we put the no agenda show on Mastodon four years ago five years ago for five something like that had no agendas referring to No Agenda Social yes noagendasocial.com started in my closet and we built it out. And now... You came out of the closet finally? I did, and Aaroner took over the duties and is now as its he lives in the No Agenda Social Closet

1:22:29 And at first, when this kind of movement started... So what I'm saying is we were already in. We have experience who know how it works. Oh yeah! You're way ahead of it. We are in the FEDiverse. We know what's going on so It has been interesting to watch people Or the FETI as they like to call them now Yeah, I am not doing no pot about the FETI Umm..so we are seeing people come in and you know and at first was like well some of the adoption was traditional because Like, I don't have any followers. How do I get my... My follower count's not right! Most people figure out that's kind of not why you're there and it doesn't matter and I thought it would die down but something miraculous is happening here. Journalists are setting up their own instances and so they're federating so you can follow them but they have their own like journo dot host and these are recognizable names

1:23:27 who to me it's actually a little more interesting because now they really are chatting amongst themselves about stories and they're kind of giving their opinions. They feel a lot looser, they don't feel like they're being watched because they're not, because a lot of people are following them. So I think that this is catching a little bit of steam now granted this is led by people like Jeff Jarvis but you know power to him at least he's bringing people in but there's serious reporters former New York Times current Washington Post so we'll have to see what goes on with that it's interesting hmm I didn't expect

1:24:08 it to catch on with any group, but for journalists to get it? I thought that was interesting. Well Joris has enough of a techie background... Yes That would make sense... yes ...that he'd be the instigator Well he's not just the instigator because you see it happening in the UK You see it happening around the world And what is interesting is they're setting up their own home And that's what makes it fascinating. Journalists getting a dot mastodon account, whatever or mastodon dot social but making their own now hey and I can't believe it! It took off we rise together back to the moon and beyond who wrote this?

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NASA Artemis 1 Moon Rocket Launch

NASA successfully launched the Artemis 1 mission, the most powerful rocket ever built, from Kennedy Space Center. The uncrewed mission aims to send the Orion capsule around the moon to test heat shields and flight systems before future crewed landings. The hosts critique the "poetic" media coverage and a NASA official's use of a biblical reference regarding "shaking the wicked" out of the earth.

nasa· artemis 1· sls rocket· orion capsule· moon

1:24:57 Buzz Lightyear? I have the three clips on this, again from the boring NTD. But they have some interesting information that i was completely unaware of and nobody else has reported on this Okay so hold on we do your backgrounder and then I'll do my backgrounder just so we can well whenever you say it's ready First of all since our theory is that they're not going back to the moon I think we both agree on that They might, but assuming that they're not going to. Well no, excuse me we don't agree it's the word back is what we disagree on. Ah okay so you just said we never went in the first place? We're not going...they're not going to. But let's drop I'm dropping that part of the argument because it's too speculative and but how are they gonna now that David launched this thing do you have any prediction what's gonna happen

1:25:51 We're gonna see video of something. What is are they supposed to land on this mission? No, no No They're just gonna flop around and come back Flop around come back and then they'll say we're ready to go in 2025 And then we won't hear right here of it again. And then you know, we need 100 billion dollars. That's not my prediction Oh what's your prediction? It's gonna have a fail You already predicted it wouldn't take off so you want to double down I'm doubling down. It's going to fail on the way back." Going back to the moon, this morning a new moon rocket by NASA took off heading towards Earth's largest satellite. And lift-off of Artemis 1! NASA's new Moon rocket blasted off on its debut flight early Wednesday. It had three test dummies aboard which brings the U.S. a big step closer to putting astronauts back on the lunar surface for the first time since the end of the Apollo program 50 years ago.

1:26:45 plans to put real astronauts back on the moon's surface by 2025. Whoa! Stop, did you hear what he said? NASA plans to put real astronauts on the moon this time Instead of the fake ones? Years ago, NASA plans to put real astronauts back on the moon's surface by 2025. The 32-story Space Launch System or SLS rocket surged off the launch pad from the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral descended its Orion capsule on a three week test journey about 90 minutes after launch the rockets upper stage fired thrusters propelling Orion out of the Earth orbit on course for the moon

1:27:29 That put the capsule on track for a 25-day flight that will bring it within 60 miles of the lunar surface. Today we got to witness the world's most powerful rocket take the Earth by its edges and shake the wicked out of it, and it was quite a sight! That's quite a sight. The moonshot follows nearly three months of fuel leaks that kept the rocket bouncing between its hangar and the pad, also back-to-back hurricanes. The rocket was forced back indoors by Hurricane Ian at the end of September but later stood its ground outside as Nicole swept through last week with gusts of more than 80 miles per hour But why are we trying to go back to the moon? Wait!

1:28:10 It's shorter? Let's just get the hyped up CBS Morning Report version of it. Lift off of Artemis 1! How about that, identical open well done NTD! Liftoff of Artemis One As a human-made spectacle this Artemis one launch was tough to beat NASA's most powerful rocket ever pushing through Florida's night sky and Earth heavy atmosphere with 8.8 million pounds of thrust I mean this is just Poetry! Poetry compared to NTD. Listen to how he says thrust, I've got it's got thrust look at that missile going upwards with thrust. Ever pushing through Florida's night sky and Earth heavy atmosphere with 8.8 million pounds of thrusts Today we got to witness the world's most powerful rocket

1:29:01 take the Earth by its edges and shake the wicked out of it. And it was quite a sight." On Monday morning next week, Orion will fly within 60 miles of the lunar surface then push 40 thousand miles beyond the Moon for space high drama – its glimpse back on Earth! After orbiting the Moon, Orion will re-enter Earth's atmosphere for the mission's top priority Test in the capsule's heat shield against temperatures of 5,000 degrees. About half as hot as the surface of the sun From Houston, Rick LeBroad will lead the team in mission control. A successful mission could lead to a new era of moonwalking NASA's hoping for a crude lunar landing later this decade. Fair to say there are lots on the line here? Oh yeah that is very fair to say I mean we gotta have a successful flight otherwise you're not putting astronauts on the next mission.

1:29:56 I mean, I understand. The little ditty at the end sets it off? Oh yeah! If it messes up hey all bets are off bro but I don't understand... Actually I think the story that you know whatever the technology we had the money then and we have the money now We got rid of it Whatever the technology Okay so now we have the most powerful rock n' roll It shook the world by its edges We're making it to the moon And then we just kind of a little moon lander thing No, no. We explained this on a previous show that I kind of read the list... No! They're gonna put an or- a space station out surrounded just going around and around the moon. They're gonna set up shop on the moon A welding station? Yes okay. Exactly. A welding station with a big arc welder up there. I'm very excited to see the picture

1:30:54 I really hope that they're gonna send an actual picture of Earth and not one of these composite pictures. All right, want to see the blue marble? Yeah okay i don't care about that let's go back to who is this guy this Neil Armstrong wannabe poet that's in both these reports who talks about the rocket going up and it's shaking the wicked?! That's Mark Strassman What's the what is he talking about says shaking the wick? Oh, no. No that was know I'm sorry That was the that was the NASA guy yeah, I don't know who it was I Don't know who it was what she talking about there was very powerful rocket Yeah, well yeah as a pretty rocket is a nice flame. I mean this like this is the guy Who did this we rise together back to the moon and beyond different guy really no? Yeah, it's a different guy

1:31:47 I don't know them. The way it was in that clip, and it was my clip too... ...the guy's talking about shaking the wicked! I know but- Or something. The wicket? I think he meant the wicket I don't know what he's talking about. Okay, let's listen to it We have to listen lift off of Artemis one as a human made spectacle this Artemis one launch with guy and Earths heavy atmosphere with 8.8 million pounds of witness here we go world's most powerful rocket Take the earth by its edges and shake the wicked out of it shake the wicked out of it It's what he said it was on my report too

1:32:23 I've never heard of this shake the so the guy's trying to be poetic it he's talking about the rocket Who is this guy? What's he talking about? What's the wicked got to do with Jack Oh job 38 verse 13 that it might spread to the ends of the earth and Shake the wicked out of it to wicket out of what out of the earth. Oh Oh please. Satan, this is a... Misuse of the Bible again! I would say And why? Who is this sanctimonious bullshit artist that's making these comments What has he got to do with the price of bread He's not Neil Armstrong jumping on the moon

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Artemis Workforce in Mississippi and Louisiana

Reports highlight that the workforce behind the Artemis 1 rocket is largely based in Mississippi and Louisiana. Many of the engineers and technicians are second or third-generation NASA workers. The hosts note that this "deep south" involvement is rarely mentioned in mainstream national coverage of the space program.

mississippi· louisiana· nasa· stennis space center· rocket engines

1:33:12 Hey, this is a media offensive man. What else we got? We don't... I mean that thing may have dudded out halfway we don't know just send them back some CGI You know what when they have that space station out there take a picture of Elon's Tesla Alright, that's where that thing went a picture of that. Oh yeah by Jupiter find it well I want to see you picture So let's go to the part That was interesting in these next two clips which is talking about the workforce and some of the details This is a couple one-minute clip says Artemis launched too And I there these details were not expressed anyplace else but NTD because our call

1:33:51 is we're going out to explore the heavens and this is the next step. Learn how to live on the moon in order to prepare to send humans all the way to Mars. This moon undertaking is Apollo's successor program and it's called Artemis. Artemis is the ancient Greek goddess of the hunt, and Apollo's twin sister. Spectators at Space View Park directly across from the launch pad cheered as Artemis 1 blasted off into the night sky One of them was a former NASA employee who worked on the Artemis rocket. He says he knows hundreds of others who work together to make this work So dedicated and diligent to make it work right, and that's what I thought about and tears came to my eyes I have to admit it you know but uh...I just Was overwhelmed The Orion capsule is expected to splash down into the Pacific Ocean on December 11th

1:34:49 Yeah. Okay, now that wasn't the clip but the next clip is a good one But that guy with that accent you know talking about the way it was built and all of the rest of it I'm thinking what this guy with these accents are starting to hear Now this next clip and the last clip... Isn't that just the people who go watch these things in Florida? No! This whole rocket, this whole thing is from the deep south. There's no Houston people involved there's no Vandenberg people involved listen to this last clip. This is untold story NASA's new Artemis 1 rocket is the most powerful rocket yet and it's the culmination of years of work for hundreds of people let's take a look at what's gone into the project

1:35:31 Behind NASA's Artemis 1 project are hundreds of workers. Many of them are based in two major facilities, one in Mississippi and one in Louisiana. A manager says the workers all live in those regions. And so when we think about the technology and advanced technology of space travel and large liquid rocket engines and astronauts sitting on top of these engines flying into space safely And that's being done by Mississippians. That's being done by Louisianans." Many of the workers are second or even third generation, meaning their parents and grandparents also worked on NASA space programs

1:36:09 An engineer says they take pride in that. Workforce is very important, right? We can't do this you know this wasn't a one or two person job you know this was teams of hundreds of people that came in that different backgrounds different experiences that all made this happen together so this area has that kind of talent uh you know it's been rooted down here for generations and a lot of people see it as its badge of honor to work here Son we build rockets. We build rockets down here y'all Hey, is that a piece? Hold on hold on there you go. This is it Thank You Well deserved no of course I didn't know that and even the trolls are going like wait a minute I thought that was in Alabama everyone has heard of different places but not

1:36:56 Louisiana, Mississippi. Right! So that's a skunkworks of epic proportion. I would say total skunk works of epic proportions and this is the only time i've heard even still like nobody else is reporting on this well I take it back NTD this was not boring from NTD this was a good one No, they do some digging once in a while. But do you think that this is... So when this thing crashes and burns which is what you predict then it's easy to go oh yeah those rednecks in the south they don't know how to build rockets man they're no good down there That's when it'll come out Wow very good John very good

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Show Logistics and Technical Issues

The hosts discuss upcoming schedule changes for Thanksgiving and address technical issues with the No Agenda Roku app and Google Podcasts. They encourage listeners to use modern podcast apps and the "Troll Room" for live interaction.

podverse· roku· google podcasts· no agenda social· thanksgiving

1:37:40 And with that I'd like to thank you for your courage, say in the morning to you the man who put the C in the cosmic welding station. Ladies and gentlemen please say hello to my friend on the other end Mr. John C. Turcorat! Good morning to you, Mr. Adam Carlson and good morning to the trolls in the troll room who have been entertained by Darren O'Neill this morning Another great rock n roll pre-show it's all live that's Thursdays and Sundays Oh before I forget can we do Thanksgiving Thursday earlier? Can we start earlier

1:38:21 Because my day ends, you know I end two hours later and it's like almost time to sit down. How about an hour earlier? Oh we want to do two or one? We can do one hour earlier Think one be more to be fun. Okay alert the affiliate be groggy otherwise I've gotten used to this new schedule and by the way you congratulate you for coming up with his dynamite I know it's like I wake up every day at 7 It's like instead of twice a week messing me up its thank-you all for understanding. I know we lost trolls along the way I Know because you know room there were so many people who loved listening live, and we ruined their lives

1:38:59 I got emails. You've ruined my life, Curry! I vote we go back. I love that one. I vote we go back please. Here play the five second clip Peterson trolls Hold on a second... Peterson trolls The trolls and they're not trolls They are psychopathic Machiavellian sadistic narcissists Yeah! That's our people! That's our people right there Oh my goodness Did he say at noah at trollroom dot io? He left that out. Let's count the first second. Hello you narcissistic trolls! 1843 today One more time for the trolls. The trolls, and they're not trolls They're psychopathic Machiavellian sadistic narcissists. Psychopathic? Hold on...

1:39:48 Machiavellian, sadistic narcissist. Narcissist? What was the last one? No narcissists... No there were sadistic narcissists. Wait! Hold on. They're trolls and they're not trolls they are psychopathic machiavellian sadistic narcissists. Narcissus okay PMSN There you go. There's your acronym trolls PMSN Well, the trolls we love when they hang out because of course they listen live. NoagendaStream.com or you can get it all at TrollRoom.io Or did you download Podverse yet? Because that one automatically trips a live notification and in the very same app that you're listening to your podcast in and it's completely backwards compatible with legacy stuff like Apple And oh my goodness people stop using Google

1:40:31 Something happened and I'm not sure exactly what, but the Google Podcast app wouldn't play this show even if people deleted the app and reinstalled it. And I think to myself at what point do you give up on the legacy? Newpodcastapps.com or of course No Agenda Social Yeah, it is weird It was really weird. Oh they lost a plot another thing The no agenda Roku app, so I don't think we were de-platformed. I think the developer...I don't know if i mentioned this? The developer of the app If he didn't update to Sparkle Sprite 2.0 or whatever their framework is It was automatically taken down So if the developer..i dont know who did it Has been around for so long I heard from him some time ago when he was

1:41:23 Not maintaining it when he went back to it. I don't know maybe just given up hates us well Grand Duke David Foley That told me this is probably the reason he said look if the guy doesn't show up, I'll do a new one How cool would that be? Maybe Debbie good and I still get a solely says TV guys are TV guy Yeah And I still get emails from people saying hey man. I'm cut off my supply. I used to listen on Roku so interesting People must live inside Roku. This used to be called the long tail, a long since forgotten idea but that's what it is. That is the Long Tail right there Our tail is so long there are zoomers stepping on it We want to thank the artist for the episode art for episode 1503

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Episode Art and Tim Pool Invitation

The hosts review listener-submitted episode art, including a piece featuring Sam Bankman-Fried. They also address rumors that Adam Curry is seeking an invitation to Tim Pool's podcast, clarifying that the "request" was actually a misunderstanding of a host's impression of Pool.

tim pool· episode art· mike riley· sam bankman-fried· podcasting

1:42:25 We have was titled Strung Out Man. Strung out! Thank you everybody for sending me millions of clips of people and old movies going can you dig it? Can you dig it? Dame Kenny Ben brought us the I got my flooster shot Looked suspiciously like a Mattel logo on the on the round part This was I had to trust my my colleague John C. Dvorak on this choice For I have enough color blindness that I pretty much can't see this at all And it's and I have no problem flying aircraft I've no problem seeing the red from the green lights all that stuff, but when it comes to in one image No It just doesn't work so

1:43:10 I liked it. There was another one... For people out there who could kind of imagine not being able to see the, I got my part of this just there's nothing there right yes that would be Adam and so So we had a debate between, I got Flusted which is the, uh... Which was good. The Tantanil piece Good piece! But she liked it but I didn't like the band-aid being there because their needles were under the band aid and it just bothered me. Uh, I liked this little guy cause it was stuck out and there wasn't, there was a lot of other stuff that was borderline but it wasn't quite

1:43:51 Jazzy enough for our taste. I like the piece almost used in a newsletter The laundering money by Igor but the thing about that piece it looks like Eastern European cartoon repurposed. Yeah, because it's got a style of an Eastern you know you've seen these cartoons or cartoonists that are in Yugoslavia and not the... The Yugoslavia Cracked magazine would have this cartoon. Yes something like that! And so it did look stolen so I don't know if it was or not but well we didn't bring up the stolen nature I just thought it was confusing. No I brought it up to myself when I was thinking about it for the newsletter and I looked at his previous art and he has no evidence of being a cartoonist

1:44:33 You know, if you like look up Mike Riley he has a cartoon. He's it was that stolen? You look at his preview and all of this stuff is Mike Riley cartoons. It does a lot of cartoons so I wouldn't even consider it being stolen. A honorary mention to Lorenzo Rojo of the Sam Bankman Free Cucumber Oh yes, we both thought that was hilarious. I almost used it for the newsletter actually! There's something just stupid about that particular piece. So stupid but so good and... The Adamcast IRL by the way if you're listening to this you can always go to NoahJendartgenerator.com refresh if you want to see what's happening now because all the art is almost 30 thousand pieces We have so much to choose from

1:45:23 But what's interesting, the art isn't so interesting but we had a conversation where I said you know this guy is never going to invite me. I don't care and then I did a horrible impression of him well that translated to some producers as Tim Kast! At Tim Kast Adam Curry really wants to be on the show but you haven't invited him he really wants to be on the show What? I love the way these yes not helping can happen. Not helpful, not help, just don't want to know part of it Thank you to Kenny Bennett. If you go on the show if you go on the Tim Cash Show...I'm not going on the show You have to wear a beret There is no there's no benefit all its own they are verbal Twitter. It's not interesting. I'm sorry is just not interesting

1:46:18 And I know the first question will be, explain it to me like i'm a five-year old. So no! I don't want to go there. I do not want to go there but thank you very much and thank you to all of our artists It is incredible what you do uh...it is one of the...It's the cherry on top of the cake that we bake twice a week. It really is. It really really is and thank you for putting your Albie wallets in there so I can get you on the boosts Let's thank some of our executive and associate executive producers. Short list today, but we do have some make goods still left over from the 1515th anniversary celebration week

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Executive Producer Credits and Knighting Ceremony

The hosts conduct a lengthy segment honoring high-tier donors and "knighting" new producers into the No Agenda Round Table. They read personal notes from listeners, grant titles such as "Sir Grey Rider of the Templar," and acknowledge "make-good" donations from the show's 15th-anniversary celebration.

knighthood· donations· executive producers· value-for-value· round table

1:46:59 And, oh do you have Matthew Price's... I don't have his note handy yet. Do you have uh..his note? Who is our- The note that the number one donor? Yes! The number one donor 345.67 Okay yeah go for it. I have it right here Thank You It was part of a card that had to be disassembled so it could be scanned and then didn't scan very well anyway So when Matthew Price is our first guy top of the list with $345.67 in In the Atlantic Where the hell's that? Indie Atlantic? It says, Indie Atlantic Florida. Okay. Hmm. Never heard of it. Happy anniversary gentlemen! Congratulations on 15 years of media deconstruction this donation will put me over the threshold for knighthood and this is not doubling anything it is straight up and as a humble human resource I would like to be knighted as surplus two requirements okay

1:47:59 Is he on the list even? I don't know. We have let me see, I think so. No it's just in blue So yes, yes, let me check. Let me check. Are you doing that over there isn't this cheers to 15 more years yours Matt Thank you very much Baron Jim Bobway and Baroness Marianne Schneeberger no strangers to this list. The Schneebergers are here! Ladies and gentlemen the Honorable Baron and Baroness Schneeberger 333 dot 33 they know how to get our attention with that number Cary North Carolina in the morning gents thank you for the sanity monthly donation herewith They're going monthly John wow Thank you good, that's better I mean so we are worth more to you

1:48:44 Almost double a cable bill. Some cable bills are 300. Yeah, that's humbling much But Baron Jim Bob way baroness Mary Ann Schneeberger my light in the darkness I'll bet she is thank you both very much appreciate it Sir Thomas McKean in Lake Wylie, South Carolina. 333 dot 33. Jingles? Sorry John and Adam Biden whole load Trump massive dumps Fauci wheeze Obama you might die that's true too many jingles five But I think Adam might be able to do it. ITM Gitmo Nation, first off, I'm calling my stepdad out as a douchebag. This donation is to ask Gitmo Nation does anyone remodel cargo vans as mobile homes? For example, a Mercedes Sprinter or have contact accepting referrals. I am based in the Charlotte metro area

1:49:48 but I can be anywhere in the lower 48 as needed. I would love to send my value to a fellow NOA Agenda listener if possible, contact me and he's got NML at noagendasocial.com which is actually his name on NOAS Agenda Social but he has an email, I'm gonna read it so we can get swamped STMCKHOL at gmail.com you can rewind this if we want to hear that again thank you for your courage sir thomas mckean i'm gonna give you the whole load today they did dumps they call them dumps big massive dumps you might die that's true okay yikes thank you very much sir thomas natalie swerski is our

1:50:39 Only associate executive producer today. She's in Kingwood, Texas 212.129 palindrome and my husband hit me in the mouth multiple times over the years I How many times do you need to get hit in the mouth at what point? Do you wake up actually talks like this? I Told him I wanted to live in my happy little bubble. I didn't want to hear about the news One day however, I decided to give your podcast a shot And I haven't looked back since. Love ya! That's a story right there, man. Nice! Thank you Natalie. May I give you a karma for that? You've got karma. How nice...how nice. And this concludes our list of executive and associate executive producers again short But would you like to do our make goods now? Hopefully it will be picked up later

1:51:32 Yes, please let's do some make goods and then we'll eventually be all caught up. Okay now these are make goods from $1499, $1500, $1501 more or less we apologize but I think we're getting closer for brevity and we're not gonna do jingles but we will do douchebags it's a de-douchings etc Dakota C., Adam John thank you so much incredibly much for the 1500 episodes! I began my quest for knighthood in 2019 pro COVID pre-COVID, pro COVID. We've always been pro COVID. Pre-COVID you're deconstructing work in so much as a millennial finishing working in electrical field who just acquired a human resource

1:52:13 Also, I've started from episode one. Please see it counting below along with double credits. Sorry to hear that! From last month brings me to knighthood... ...I'd like to be known as Sir Grey Rider of the Templar and I'd like to call out RC as a douche. DOUCHEBAG! Please bring smoked brisket tacos and the Three Creek Stonefly rye beer to the round table Thank you very much And he says P.S John why were you so sure of Republican president in 2007? I've begun the quest of listening to all the episodes. Well, because sometimes he's just wrong! What? Yeah so when we started the show this Dakota C has started listening from episode one and says John in 2007 why were you so sure of a Republican president? I was uh not up to speed He hadn't been hit in the mouth properly yet

1:53:14 Something was wrong with me. David Wright in the morning? That sounds kind of sad, the way you said that... Something was wrong. Thank you, Crackpot and Buzzkill for 15 years of courageous service and happy show 1500 here's to 1500 more shout out to Sir Burgess of the Ozarks for hitting me in the mouth nearly a decade ago And this donation doubled finally brings me to the roundtable and leaves an extra penny for the jar Please lighten knight me sir lucid of the Ozarks Thick chicks and thymerosol for the round table whoo-hoo you got it Andrew Feltz

1:53:53 Apologies for this note going to the wrong address. I'm a relatively new listener to the podcast, heard Adam on the WhatBitcoinDid podcast this summer he hit me in the mouth. Instant night donation of 800.85 please dub me SirOculus of Mount Cornea! I would like all natural glaucoma meds and ooey gooey cookies at the round table. Alright... C Baker I was in the flood of donations that couldn't be read and didn't know, that couldn't read and didn't know to email these addresses. My apologies so it's alright we're fixing that Q1 everybody First and foremost, I probably need a triple dose of the Massengill de-douching. First donation... You've been dedouched! Thank you for all you do while the MSM pollutes the minds of the sheep. I would be like to known as Sir Ogre of Portsmouth at the round table like bacon Mad Dog 2020 and Milwaukee's Best Light Can you pick up Edward Tattnall?

1:54:51 I don't have this open, sorry. Edward Tattnall make good please around 238 or so of episode 1498 it was announced that my switcheroo donation brought my wife Doreen Tattnall to damehood but alas She was not included in the ceremony and so languishes in the realm of the untitled. Please pronuncicate her Dame Doreen, Adele of the snickerdoodles! She requests rumballs and apple pie moonshine at the round table." Thank you very much The entertainment and information delivered by you two is...in a most professional way continues to amaze, amuse and enlighten What would we do without you?

1:55:29 Thanks and keep up the good work from Ted Sir Fodfather, Baron of the Circle City. By the way these people will be Black Dames or Knights today you're not gonna open it at all just gonna make me struggle... Oh! You want to go and open it? Well there's only five six seven more... I'm going give you an offhanded compliment you read these so well Yeah, for some reason because you actually have sincerity and you're just great. You know why? Because I care about people John yeah you do and i think this is because you did such a great job by just far as I'm concerned I can start sorting through garbage here's the thing so my voice is cracking all of sudden I hear you go

1:56:13 Oh, it didn't even... mine has no fizz now. My Dr Pepper is flat. No you heard me open a can! Okay I drank. Parker Paulie here from the Sasquatch Valley WSQV Sasquatch Valley Top 40 Radio. I've been to that station Adam and John in the morning. Thank you, thank you for your insights your sanity your humor twice weekly I'm a better person for having listened all these years no joke! I also have a blast creating No Agenda art And it's a thrill when my creative product is selected to provide value to the show With this donation of the honor of bellying up to the roundtable please knight me sir dude named Parker Pauly with his title I want to reestablish that I am a man A fellow, a gent, a male, a dude equipped with twig and berries. I beseech you misgender me no more!

1:56:58 We have done this consistently. And we'll do it again! Adam, this starving artist humbly requests prune pierogi and pumpkin whoopie pies at the round table I have no idea what a prune pierogi could even be like... Makes you poop. It's been a privilege congratulations on 1500 shows I raise a glass to no agenda past present and future Thank you. Ron and Mary Nelson from Moores Hill, Indiana. Crackpot and Buzzkill before you read any more please call me out as a douchebag. I've been listening since around 2012 and there's no excuse how be grateful if you would see fit now to de-doosh me! You've been de-dooshed Please just de-doosh with the knockoff Chinese version since i'm not worthy of the homegrown... it's okay we gave you full authentic We actually didn't get any of the knockoffs in

1:57:52 They better hurry up. So there are no we know we were restocked with good stuff Oh, this is the good stuff? Yeah No more of these you know, it's not gonna wait We did the way get around that I'm just telling anyone who wants to report stuff from China Quality control now that I've been released of this burden I just want to say how grateful I am for the two of you influencing The way that I see the world and the media you have had a profound impact on my life And for that I'm grateful your service to humanity Your service to humanity... I can't even say it right. I need Lloyd Bridges! Your service to humanity during the pandemic will be known for generations

1:58:34 Let's hope so. Hey, you know we used to say when there is a million No Agenda CDs... When I was kid we used to listen to the no agenda show You need to download episodes onto USB disks on to drives. You need have these things everywhere that is possible if we really want to survive Don't think that noagendanation.com slash archive is going be great spot for it forever So your analysis and reasoned approach helped us, a lot of us not suffer. mass formation under the power-hungry tyrant spell. Your introduction to us of individuals like Professor Matthias de Smet and a host of others goes way beyond the pennies I give you as a flight attendant for a major airline for 38 plus years this became a real challenge with the possibility of being terminated however in part due to your steady analysis and humor, most of all my faith in Jesus Christ I was emboldened to resist

1:59:34 I was granted a religious exemption and joined other flight attendants to support each other in the group that we called The Organics. You should have called us The Unleadeds! I would like my night name to be Sir Hydration Transfer Engineer of the Shadowlands At the round table, I'd like to add my wife's amazing sweet cinnamon bread french toast and black Nicaraguan coffee My smoking hot wife of 35 years called me a douchebag when I started sharing no agenda with her. She felt that I was bringing shame to our good name for not donating, so she'll be relieved that this stain has been removed and I am now a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable." Oh! Forgot? I hit my sister Pam in the mouth in a year and I've noticed she hasn't donated although I'm feeling a little guilty calling her out since I was in the douche camp for so long. Okay... Thank you very much Ron and Mary and Ron Nelson everybody thank you. Sean D

2:00:28 He doesn't want any pagan karma by the way. I'm not giving any, I didn't get credited for producer show credit on either show 99 1500 1501 1502 1503 PayPal donation receipt shows shown below for 333 since on October 30th. This is Sean you're doing Sean D's? Yes this is Sean D okay why I was just wondering why you didn't do any jingles. Because we're skipping them? I'm not doing any jingles here, I already pre-announced that. It's just... We have to do something! Don't bring it up! You want jingles?! No no i don't want jingles. What is wrong with you!? I am a maniac. No comment other than keep the good work thanks for all you two do Sir Sean knight of the cisgendered third world jungle

2:01:23 You got it. Martina? No, I...Martina here's..I think it's Martina. It is not Martine? No! I'm pretty sure this is Martina. I think she's a female airline pilot believe and I hope I didn't misgender her. We have lot of pilots Yeah A lot people in the airline industry and cops And military And by the way Just for the people out there that need to know, I did it. I finally did it after two years! You renewed your ham radio license? It's the biggest pain in the ass anyone could possibly imagine. The website is unusable... Really? Yeah, this has been pretty unusable. If anyone wants to renew their license just let the AARP do it for you. You subscribe for one year and they'll do it! They will renew your license?! Yes that you get a note when your license expires from the AARP Hey, you want your license renewed we'll do it Cool I'll wait for that Take them up on it

2:02:26 I had to call Washington DC and talk to the FCC, and have me...I had to be walked through the website. Oh how embarrassing! It's very embarrassing and then there is a bunch of stuff like Wait a minute wait! So one...FCC... No no we can't let this go by John We can't let this just go by FCC can you put on hold for one second okay? I got some old dude who can't figure out the website. Am i right? No, not at all because you could tell that this all these guys do so they spent it takes about 45 minutes by the way and my comment is something like this half the time...I'm supposed to put what in there

2:03:14 And it's like he says you the FRN number I said it but the FRN numbers already on the page So no, you've just put to pull down and put it in but it's already on the patient seems redundant Oh goodness. And so my comment is mostly well that seems redundant Well that seems redundant and the guys who keep walking me through and so I get finally when you click over here You're the guys really annoying can you take this call? He says all right So it's a p... I don't use this term lightly. Pull it down and put in, old man! It's a piece of shit Which is pretty much like every ham radio website on the internet. Does it still use blink tags this thing to renew your license? No, I wouldn't be sure no i didn't see any but you know they had a lot of drop downs You crack me up So back to martina with the double credit This will get me to dame hood level if you would chip in one penny well Of course we're gonna chip in one penny for you where's my penny Where's my jar who took my jar oh there it is right behind you got it

2:04:22 I would like to be named Dame Kicking and Screaming. And I would like to request the following at the round table... Roll mobs! And track drop! Met stroopwafels, yummy! Trek drop is like the really thick black, you can pull the licorice apart. Stroopwafels, you know what those are? And rollmops... Yeah they actually sell the stroopwafel here in the United States a lot. Yes and do you know what rollmops are that's the pickled herring rolled up with it... Rollmops, they're called. Oh you know rollmops! I didn't know that okay. Hey yeah roll mops Robert Campbell, I've been a fan. He's got a pickle and a melon and a little bit of onion. Yeah

2:05:05 Robert Campbell's been a fan since day one and when he saw the promotion leading up to show 1500, he knew my dream of being a knight was in sight. He says when I realized my donation for show 1499 was missed i was upset but after listening to the number of producers listed in the show since I was not surprised I humbly ask for make good and the nighting you shall be black sir nothing special from me at the round table but I'd like a de-dooshing. Sorry! My mistake how did that happen? There we go. You've been de-douche'd! That's better, alright thank you very much Peter Rosinski We're almost there folks By the way that was genuine content you just heard In a morning John and Adam after episode 1503 dropped I wrote a concern note about my pending knighthood

2:05:54 from 1500, which had yet to happen. I wasn't listed as a title change or anything on the show credits this morning. I finished actually listening to episode 1503 and heard Adam read my note! Which was nice yes i do listen to the donation segments thank you. I was not however called up to be knighted strange doesn't that normally happen on the same show? Yes I know you guys probably get a lot of notes like mine and are fatigued. Not really, please understand i'm not complaining It's okay but I am probably others are confused by the process oh you know what we're all confused We're all confused. The process! The process...I love the process Q1 q1 We never expected this to be last for 15 years we gotta-we now have to really fix the process which is a process

2:06:40 Seen that my earlier donation was noted. Okay, we will take care of you you bet you will be knighted today Christian lair One two more here I would like to split this donation into two five hundred a thousand with the double credit to my smoking hot wife Deborah To make her an incident To the love of my life, mother of my child and reason for getting up every day you are now an official dame and executive producer of The No Agenda Show. I'm thrilled we can now dine and drink together at the round table And like the other 500 to get credited to me Sir Christian of Phoenix, no title change for now just a much sought after executive producer credit and your dame will become a black dame

2:07:24 And Matthew Balvanz is our final make good. This might actually clear it all up! This might be the last of the backlog... I want to check in on an Instant Knight contribution during the 15th anniversary special I submitted, you got the receipt? Of course. I mostly want to make sure this show received a donation and didn't screw it up. See thank you! A couple people would, hey I don't care about the mentions. We'll make sure that you got it and that's always appreciated. That is really...that's very sweet and typically yes thanks oh did you get the Zelle? Someone tried to do a Zelle? I'm working on it yeah Zelle will be probably in play in a week or so Q1 um where was I uh

2:08:04 Thanks to you and Adam for hosting the best podcast in the universe all these years. I started listening long before episode 200, I am well overdue for a de-douche. You've been dedouched! And here is... The show and its producers have taught me so much over the years and it's past time for me to contribute some treasure If my contribution still counts towards an Instantite it does with black in front of it Night Meets for Matthew, Mutton and Meat at the Roundtable. Of course that's going to be there Aims Iowa. Matthew thank you all so much apologies again that this is forcing us into a process which is good

2:08:43 It's a very good thing. Thank you again to the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1504, and we'll be thanking more producers later on and well We got a lot more show coming up so with that I would say if you'd like to be a producer go here devorak.org slash n-a thank you 15 years of your time talent and treasure Our formula is this? We go out we hit people in the mouth Order! Shut up, slave. Shut up, slave. Oh and I wanted to uh... Wanted to thank Cabbage Paps for the official Adam Curry strain It is approved and I can't wait to see it grown all over the world Finally, finally he's reached his pinnacle He sent me seeds

CHAPTER 28 / 38 Discussion

Jordan Peterson on Instagram and Psychopathy

Jordan Peterson appeared on Piers Morgan's show to discuss a study regarding personality traits associated with excessive social media usage. Peterson argues that platforms like Instagram enable a small percentage of the population with "dark tetrad" traits—narcissism, Machiavellianism, and sadism—to dominate social discourse. He specifically notes how these traits manifest in "influencer" culture.

jordan peterson· piers morgan· instagram· narcissism· psychopathy

2:09:40 Yeah, oh he did. Good for you. Grow him! In Texas you can grow that stuff. You'll be arrested in a month. Go to jail. Grow him he says. Do you want an exit strategy? That's the smart move So I've got a bunch of clips because Jordan Peterson was on The Pierce Morgan Show Oh that's why you had the clip okay good and that's where that clip came from cause he talks about it And i think you'l like these clips cause its about Instagram celebrities, it's about psychopaths online. It's about everything you talk about with your over- undereducated over socialized but he thinks is more than that he thinks there's a lot of nutcases in the process I want to pull just this side clip out in the process of discussing this Pierce Morgan makes the following clip This is the Pierce Morgan clip just play this and tell me what lunatic would say this? Hold on. Under Pierce

2:10:37 I don't see... Oh here. P-I-E-R-S. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Actually, I had a psychopath test done on me actually. A lengthy questionnaire and they concluded that I was a good psychopath. A psychopath test? They had a psychopath test done on him and it turned out that he's a psychopath! But a good one?! Well then Peterson kind of went well. I'm a here that yeah, actually I had a psychopath test done on me actually a lengthy questionnaire and they concluded I was in good psychopaths a good psychopath well Sounds about right he scribes it alright so let's listen to some of these clips this is pretty funny stuff So let's go with

2:11:26 We can do with the crazy women clip, but let's go with Peterson on insta influencers Just got a paper sent to me today by Jonathan height. He didn't write the paper It will be published it's published in a journal called personality and individual differences And it's an examination of the personality traits associated with Let's say excessive and self-promoting Internet usage and I if you don't mind, I'd like to read you a couple of the descriptions Yeah Of what the people found because it's so absolutely spot-on and relevant be great. I don't think we are descending into tribalism I think what's happening is that? The virtualization of the world is enabling

2:12:09 people who behave in a particular antisocial way in a self-grandizing and self promoting Antisocial way, and I'll just read you the descriptions that are taken directly from this paper So it's an actual study of online behavior women characterized by high self centered antagonism neurotic narcissism Machiavellian views machiavellian tactics so that's manipulative manipulativeness, meanness disinhibition physical sadism and indirect sadism used Instagram for a longer time and more frequently than did men. In women verbal sadism and emotionality was associated with longer while honesty humility and conscientiousness was with a shorter Facebook usage time

2:12:59 Furthermore, women high in agentic extroversion so that's manipulative self-promotion and indirect sadism used Facebook for a longer time and more frequently than men. And so I've thought for awhile that one of the things that is happening to us as we virtualize the world is that were enabling the small percentage of people it usually about 3% in general populations who use manipulation and reputation savaging, denigration and self-promotion to dominate the social conversation and spew their poisonous and manipulative venom into the public domain

2:13:39 not only with no fear of being stopped and no inhibition, which is almost all applied socially but also well-being monetized and promoted by the people who run the social media channels. Okay I'd say two things one it's being amplified this 3% to three percent seems low Well i think his three percent always refers percentage of the population that are genuine psycho or sociopaths. But then 30% is copycatting those psychopaths, i-i-is that what I'm supposed to take away? Well I don't know about that but he... Because the behavior... 3 percent is..I dunno why you think it's low because if you go on Instagram

2:14:28 And you find some of these people, I follow a few of them. It's just like fascinating to watch them just take pictures of themselves over and over and under any circumstance picture-picture-picture. You know okay? I can't help but think of Scott Adams This is exactly the woman he... Scott Adams posts some weird stuff. He posted, I'm gonna paraphrase but i think it was What Is Instagram Good For? No no and I'm sorry It was Why Did I Get Married Because I Wanted to Have a Week Long of Fantastic Sex with an Instagram Model in Vegas or something like that which sounds exactly like how they met

2:15:14 It's destructive. I mean, that woman and I'll say that woman who totally suckered Scott Adams not a sophisticated player at all has damaged him. Insta indirectly has damaged him and I think she is an example if i were to call anyone or say it was maybe some psychopathic kid that would be one I'd be looking at There are lots of them And I think it's just, you know she is one of many. Yeah? It's just like frightening to see some of them and they're just a... Anyway part two is the same as he wraps this part

2:15:53 Every society forever has had to contend with a small percentage of people who will utilize all the benefits of society only for themselves. They had to contend with the fact that those people, if not brought under control can demolish the structure of the entire society and I think the polarization that we're feeling is a consequence of their untrammeled expression online Instagram Facebook and in any online comment forums like Twitter. But that stuff you read out just said seemed to be gender-specific to women, presumably also applies in other ways to men as well on social media? Oh yeah well I think the reason that it applied in this study in women is because Instagram has very heavy image use...image

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

Peterson's Proposal for Social Media Verification

Jordan Peterson proposes that social media platforms should separate verified human users from anonymous "troll demons" in comment sections. He suggests that "Know Your Customer" laws should be applied to social networks to ensure accountability. The hosts disagree, suggesting that the real solution is to abandon Silicon Valley platforms entirely for the Fediverse.

jordan peterson· twitter· verification· anonymity· silicon valley

2:15:14 It's destructive. I mean, that woman and I'll say that woman who totally suckered Scott Adams not a sophisticated player at all has damaged him. Insta indirectly has damaged him and I think she is an example if i were to call anyone or say it was maybe some psychopathic kid that would be one I'd be looking at There are lots of them And I think it's just, you know she is one of many. Yeah? It's just like frightening to see some of them and they're just a... Anyway part two is the same as he wraps this part

2:15:53 Every society forever has had to contend with a small percentage of people who will utilize all the benefits of society only for themselves. They had to contend with the fact that those people, if not brought under control can demolish the structure of the entire society and I think the polarization that we're feeling is a consequence of their untrammeled expression online Instagram Facebook and in any online comment forums like Twitter. But that stuff you read out just said seemed to be gender-specific to women, presumably also applies in other ways to men as well on social media? Oh yeah well I think the reason that it applied in this study in women is because Instagram has very heavy image use...image

2:16:42 It involves heavy use of images and there are reasons to assume that because of that it attracts women who are directed towards short-term impulsive mating strategies, and that's another sign of impulsive antisocial and psychopathic behavior. I wish he would deconstruct dating apps Oh, he'd be... He did this interview with Piers Morgan and people can look it up. But he also did a longer thing with the Hoover Institution than that guy that does these interviews over there. Victor David Hanson? No no, Victor David Hanson's the guy who is usually being interviewed by the guy who does the interviewing

2:17:22 Although Hanson has gone off and done his own podcast. No, I can't remember the guy's name Robinson is his last name and he does interviews and he had a great time hour long it was more of a lecture than anything else by Peterson. I thought he was back on form because Peterson over the last few years has just been trying to recover from this moment where almost died from drug use but yeah he got back on track I think in my second one These are actually discrepant, but let's play just Peterson 1. I'm sorry then the last one after that okay? Should be required to implement know your customer laws and then that the people who are posting who are genuine verified human beings willing to abide by their words with their personal reputation should be put in one comment section

2:18:15 And then the online, anonymous cowardly narcissistic pathological troll demons who are polluting the public discourse should be put in a different comment section. And if you want to go to hell and visit the troll demons and see what they have to spew, you can but otherwise you can be among normal human beings engaged in normal civil human discourse and that would separate the bloody psychopaths from the bulk of decent normal people. And you know 97% of people aren't psychopathic. This is stuff I don't like Peterson for so he's gonna tell us how to fix Insta, how to fix social networks... This was specific to Twitter this particular content. It doesn't matter it's no I agree but let me finish

2:19:00 What I would prefer this man say is avoid Silicon Valley altogether. It's a bug on the internet, route around it! He doesn't have the experience. This is the guy...I know that's why I'm a little disappointed. He's Canadian. Oh I'm sorry, I expect too much You're expecting way too much. If he was actually moved to San Jose or San Francisco, it wouldn't take much for him to figure that part out. But you see, he's in the Ben Shapiro group and so he's sitting pretty, and those guys are all about fighting the new mainstream which they think their fight is with Twitter and Facebook and all that stuff. Whereas there's no fight! Go over to the Feddy do a pod on the Feddy I would like to know... Do we know people who are completely narcissistic nut jobs in the Feddy? No because there's no algos in the Feddy

CHAPTER 30 / 38 Discussion

Jordan Peterson and Meghan Markle's Podcast

Jordan Peterson responds to being featured as a "villain" on Meghan Markle's "Archetypes" podcast. He criticizes Markle's vocal delivery, comparing it to Kamala Harris, and describes it as "faux compassionate." Peterson defends his previous clinical claims regarding the difficulty of managing female antisocial behavior, which he says often involves "reputation savaging."

meghan markle· jordan peterson· archetypes· kamala harris· antisocial behavior

2:20:03 So he's just wasting his breath telling people how to fix the stuff that is toxic we don't need and people enjoy not being on it. I wish he would do that, but he's in the system man He's fighting a fight of his dumb. Oh man! He's a part of this problem. Can you dig it? Okay. Alright Part 2? This is, it's not really part two. I think it's slightly separate this is the Peterson crazy women Meghan Markle Prince Harry's wife who does this podcast Oh yeah let me preface this Crazy Women Meghan Markle Have you listened to Meghan Markle's podcast? Um let me see No!

2:20:42 Well, she's got a podcast and Peterson is brought up in the podcast. Pearson is more than happy to take a clip from her podcast which includes him. Peterson blows up at this and he does something I've never heard him do before and he doesn't do it as well as he could but not as well as we do it Which is he mimics her and then does a little take on her voice. You know, one of these things which he never does. And so I just thought this was quite interesting as very entertaining and he just Pierce we know hates Meghan Markle and I guess Peterson does too. I didn't know that. Meghan Markle, Prince Harry's wife who does this podcast Archiewell Podcast archetypes it is called in which she seems to perennially play the victim the female victim of all outrages and your name got dragged into this let us take a listen to what she said raise your hand if you've ever been called crazy

2:21:44 or hysterical, or what about nuts insane out of your mind completely irrational. I don't think that men can control crazy women The use of these labels has been drilled into us from movies and TV from friends and family even from random strangers And the fact is no one wants this label What did you make of that Jordan to be suddenly appearing on Meghan Markle's podcast as a villain? The first thing I made... Calling women crazy. Yeah, well the first thing I make of it is that her voice drips with the same falsehoods that the voice of Kamala Harris drips with. It's this sanctimonious

2:22:28 faux compassionate talking down to her audience and trying to be sure that we're all really on the same compassionate page here. And, were all being victimized by terrible forces that are arrayed against us and none of that's really fair! It just grates on me... I do believe.... You played a bit of clip from when i was talking Pallia, Camille Pallia the literary critic and I do believe that it is the case that its very difficult to control female antisocial behavior often of the type thats been pilloried as hysterical. And I think there's no shortage of clinical evidence to support precisely

2:23:15 Claim it's very difficult for women to control female antisocial behavior and females who are anti-social that feminine pattern is reputation savaging under the guise of compassionate care, and it's extraordinarily destructive Yeah in in that playing field yes people who aren't who aren't a part of that aren't that way I I don't know. It just, I like Jordan Peterson and liked him for a long time. I'm glad that he lives you know the whole but it's to me is just more of who even why do you even bring up? Why do you go on a show to talk about Meghan Markle? Why did you want to show is well, he didn't go on the show to talk about Meghan Markle this was Pierce brought it up. I understand but what trigger he's talking about crazy women on Insta yeah

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Lab-Grown Meat and Richard Branson's Endorsement

The FDA has approved lab-grown meat for human consumption for the first time, starting with Upside Foods' cultivated chicken. The process involves "immortalizing" primary cells from a chicken and growing them in a cultivator. Sir Richard Branson is featured in a promotional video endorsing the product as a way to "save the world" and the rainforests.

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2:24:13 I just don't like his advice. I think it's advice we get off of it, do something else with your life Yeah? Alright a little bit of food intelligence there go- It's going fast now So this is just this week in fake food Oh and you need to jingle A startup has turned seaweed into delicious vegan bacon The Dutch! I picked this up from the Dutch Telegraaf Have developed a coffee Without a bean! What? Wait. Don't coffee plants take carbon dioxide out of the air and they're valuable and they produce these beans, and then you can make coffee out of them what would you want to substitute that for? Well how could it be more green than that?! So this is... It's made of soy palm oil

2:25:14 Why? Because we need to... Okay, why because coffee beans are expensive. Why not just sell people the soy repackages coffee for the same price that's why By the way, we should mention just for historical purposes there was a product and I think it still exists called Postum which was a post them POSDUM, which was a coffee substitute that became very popular during World War II. Hmm yeah that's interesting why would why oh because there was no money? There you go well that's why! No World War 2 there was everything is rationed and so on... So they're getting ready for the next rationing period with basically warm crayon water. Bugs! I don't have bugs from Euronews headline

2:26:06 It's like brewing beer. This startup makes baby formula with human proteins to mimic breast milk." Yeah, this is good and this is the stuff that they're making. And people are going... Cockroach milk! It's not even! This is all lab-grown Now just a sh—this is another good one In Berkeley California Perlita Are you familiar with perlita? No. It's a pearlita Let me see, it sounds like it's some kind of little oyster joint. No, no, it's a startup. Perlita but they are from Berkeley they've announced plant-based oysters! I mean who needs the protein of an oyster? Get to plant! It's great but the kicker today John just to show you where we're at... The Food and Drug Administration

2:27:01 You know them. Has approved laboratory grown meat for human consumption for the first time and it's called Upside, Upside... Is it called Upside Meat? Upside Foods? You can find them at I think its upsidefoods.com Let see if they're open. Are they traded? upsidefoods.com No! Well let me see..I don't think so They will be because there is some Oh my goodness, I haven't even seen this. They got celebrity endorsements? Hmm... Lawsuit waiting to happen! Well alright here is uh this is their chicken so they have Chicken?! Yes let me see that product Cheapest crappy meat in the world are gonna make it out lab Our foods The upside of chicken they have coming soon

2:27:57 Oh, so they only have chicken right now but coming soon they will have all kinds of meats. Yeah what is the science of it? Let's start with chicken! Hold on we're gonna start with chicken here is to the science page from one chicken to enough chicken for everyone Our production process starts by taking a sample of primary cells from a chicken or fertilized egg. From this sample, our team selects ideal cells for developing a commercial cell line The winning cells get a blue ribbon are chosen based on their ability to produce high quality meat and grow predictably and consistently This process is called immortalization

2:28:37 Oh brother. That's immortalization! Once a cell is established, we're able to draw from it for years if not decades to come reducing the need to take additional cell samples from animals This is actually fascinating Step 2 In the production process We have our cell line established and are ready to begin producing meat from those small samples To make upside chicken meat, we need to nourish the cells. We've developed a proprietary cell culture medium or cell feed that's optimized for our cells' needs and consists mostly of common compounds found in animal feed and human food including amnio acids fatty acid sugars trace elements salts vitamins so then they again... And then they cultivate it and put them into a vessel called a cultivator where I guess it just ferments

2:29:32 and it becomes yeast. After about three weeks, the tissue is ready for harvest! We remove the tissue from the cultivators and separate out any remaining cell feed... And then it's good to eat? They need to pack it? Once harvested, the meat is ready to be inspected, prepared, packed served and enjoyed. They forget the whole process where they make it look like chicken. Who was this celebrity endorser No one less than Sir Richard Branson. Oh brother, so easy. Hi how are you doing? Good to see you! Really excited and looking forward to tasting your latest rendition Yeah thank you We're cooking a chicken piccata with butter and wine sauce It already smells good even from here Butter yeah

2:30:19 Look all of you guys over there. Can you just come over here and look at this? This is extraordinary I know we're making a little film, but this is just everybody By the way in this film he makes the crew and the producers eat it first And then he takes a bite. He's not stupid! Do you hear this? Oh, at least it wasn't a chicken that was alive. You wouldn't even know And you know it hasn't got all that horrible stuff shoved in it. And your eating chicken is going to change the world! Yeah. Oh change the world with this chicken! Yes we believe that very much That's great thank you

2:31:08 And now Branson's gonna try it himself. Wow, that is truly delicious. Someone's going to grow a third arm and sue him for this. Absolutely, Natalie, delicious. You've got a good chef there but it's just so nice We have one more thing for you. A big surprise come on over Daniel Oh big surprise! It's chicken tikka masala. Oh my god! Absolutely, thank you. We've taken this yeast laboratory grown goop of cell clusters you let ferment and we made it taste like chicken tikka masala

2:31:49 Wow. Quite brilliant, thank you so much! Better than the best Indian restaurant I've ever been to. Best ever! This excites me more than almost any company that I've come across because if you can grow enough meats and fishies and other things... You know, you could save the rainforests, you could ultimately save the world. Cheers! Save the world!! By killing humans! Got to do with saving the rainforest. Oh man, no they're not public. They're starting in the United States... Where do you obtain your cells? From Uyghurs? Are we actually thinking about it?! The next step of this would be cannibalism We could grow human edible tissue Soil and grain

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McDonald's French Fries and Pesticide Usage

Author Michael Pollan details the agricultural requirements for McDonald's french fries, which must be made from long Russet Burbank potatoes. To avoid "net necrosis" blemishes, farmers use a highly toxic pesticide called Monitor. The potatoes must be stored in atmosphere-controlled sheds for weeks to off-gas chemicals before they are safe for consumption.

mcdonald's· michael pollan· russet burbank· pesticides· net necrosis

2:32:49 And we could eat that. So this kind of flies with a clip I have here on food. By the way, this was not a clip about food! This is a clip about some weird chemical crap people are being told to eat by Richard Branson who couldn't even get out of the atmosphere This clip doesn't, you know this clip is by with Michael Pollan bitching about McDonald's french fries. Which I have a you know... Yes! You were an official in the Nato yes and until they started well they've gone bad they went south some years ago when they changed the oil formula for the French fries but but i never thought about what he's going to talk about here which is another reason not to buy anything from McDonalds it's basically

2:33:36 It's just one step closer to what you just played. If you go to McDonalds, anywhere in the world, you will find french fries or chips as you call them and you'll find that they're always made from the same potato, the russet burbank potato This is a potato from America that's unusually long and difficult to grow, but that's what they want because when you're McDonalds you like those red boxes with a little bouquet of very long chips. It looks really good so they insist that all their potatoes be russet burbanks and they further insist that they have no blemishes at all

2:34:14 There's a very common defect of russet burbank potatoes called net necrosis. And you've seen potatoes with the little brown lines sometimes or spots that come through it? Well, McDonalds won't buy them if your potatoes have that and the only way to eliminate that is to eliminate an aphid and the only way to do that is with a pesticide called monitor. That is so toxic that the farmers who grow these potatoes in Idaho... Are dead! Won't venture outside into their fields for five days after they spray And then when they harvest their potatoes, they have to put them in these atmosphere controlled sheds the size of a football stadium Because they're not edible for six weeks. They have to off gas all the chemicals in so you see the desire for a certain kind of chip leads to a certain kind of agriculture Agriculture is you mean science experiment?

2:35:05 That is disgusting. Totally disgusting. The other day was last week I went to the PO box, what was it? Two weeks ago? A week and a half ago got my hair cut, PO box in my round Now we've been eating since, not stopping by though. We'd have bacon, hamburgers for breakfast, beef steaks just complete... Hamburgers! Yeah it's great hamburgers you know you don't put like ketchup and mustard and relish on it or you could? So your substituting the hamburger for breakfast for pork sausage which is what- No we also had the pork sausage

2:35:47 We have it from a holy cow. I mean, we had this all kinds of stuff So I was so hungry driving after just about an hour and 20 minutes from Austin And you can see this one coming in and I and I like I'll just have a cheeseburger at fries and a dr Pepper Media media medium dude. I hadn't even hit dripping springs that my body was rejecting this stuff It's so horrible Even what we get in restaurants now that we're used to getting it straight from the rancher That and you were talking about going to Costco and what beefy were buying about it being USDA I think you're wrong. A lot of that is from South America It's branded USDA, but I can't eat. I can even a Costco beef anymore. I'm surprised You still can I know? It's not bad But it's not there's not primo

2:36:43 And that's what happening here. All the good stuff, that'll be like caviar really expensive and we get Richard Branson chicken nuggets grown in the lab What place did you stop at to get this burger? McDonalds The worst! Yes, that is what I'm saying! I've been reviewing these burgers on this show now for a number of years because I check one out every so often... I can't believe it, I was weak It was very bad Fell off the wagon Carl's is better Carl's, Carls Jr. There was a... Anyway no meat for you or dairy if you're at the University of Sterling where's Sterling? Britain

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University of Stirling Vegan Mandate

The Student Union at the University of Stirling in Scotland voted to ban meat and dairy products from its campus food outlets by 2025. The move was pushed by the activist group Animal Rebellion to address the "climate emergency." Meanwhile, a new study in the Annals of Internal Medicine found little correlation between red meat consumption and health problems.

university of stirling· veganism· animal rebellion· climate emergency· red meat

2:37:30 Meat and dairy products will be banned on university campus. The students voted to go vegan, send your kid to that university Sterling where they'll fall down dead This is an example of the use of democracy to assert the rights of the minority I can't believe for a minute every single student, unless it was every single student that voted for this then it would be acceptable. I believe it was... Tyranny! It's the... oh here you go The Sterling University Student Union back to move towards a plant-based menu at the three food outlets it controls with activists to demand the policy is adopted across the entire institution. The campaign group Animal Rebellion, linked to Extinction Rebellion said the move was UK first and would help address climate ecological emergencies due to emissions linked to farming So they're in schools now telling you what your kid can eat

2:38:33 as a political pressure group from the outside. Homeschooling people, homeschooling much better and there was a new study that came out I think like 19 scientists or something who did this? The Annals of Internal Medicine is that good? The annals of internal medicine? I think it is they found little correlation between red meat consumption and health problems A number of organizations immediately contested the evidence claiming it to be based on an irrelevant system of analysis. They start freaking out, the psyop has to continue It's sludge in your body man! Don't eat it! It gives cancer man and stays in your intestines for 15 years All that stuff... all that... Old tropes Very old tropes

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Poland Missile Incident and NATO Responsibility

A missile strike in Poland that killed two people was initially blamed on Russia but later identified as a Ukrainian air defense missile. Despite the findings, NATO and U.S. officials maintain that Russia bears "ultimate responsibility" for the incident. Leaders Rishi Sunak and Justin Trudeau were filmed in a staged phone call expressing support for President Zelensky.

poland· nato· zelensky· rishi sunak· justin trudeau

2:39:33 Think we should just do a little quick stuff on Russia since you know We almost did have World War three or something like that. We haven't discussed Yeah, I get the one but I get to one missile in Poland clip and I don't have I have any others well I have the hold on I have the I have the ABC... Oh, this is short. Ukrainian President Zelensky is pushing back after the US and other allies said that missile that hit Poland this week was apparently fired by Ukraine They believe it was unintentional Fired as Ukraine tried to intercept Russian missiles NATO officials say Russia is ultimately responsible but Zelensky wants his officials to join the investigation What does this remind you of when it comes to Russia and Ukraine?

2:40:22 This is the shoot down of the Malaysian airliner. Oh, a little bit yeah Same thing! Russia got blamed we know Ukraine did it except for some reason Bellingcat was sent away they weren't allowed to do this one and even Biden everyone came out pretty quick and said oh yeah that was a mistake Which seemed coincidental with the 37 billion dollars that was immediately made free. Well this has been going on since day one, with the Ukrainians firing missiles into neighborhoods and blaming the Russians I mean the whole operation seems to be a one giant false flag with this Zelensky character How many hundreds of thousands of people are supposed to be dead?

2:41:05 There's supposed to be 10,000 dead soldiers on each side and then there has got to be at least 100,000 civilians. Where are the bodies man? They never show the bodies. No they don't show bodies anymore. Uh huh Okay, okay. You don't think anyone's dead? Is that what you're making a claim for I have not make it any claim I have no idea I wish I wish they were we don't know anything about anything because this the whole war has been Wagged-the-dog style for us and that's my point wag The dog is what it feels like time and time again right down to the green screen questions Very here's my one lone clip. Oh

2:41:47 A missile hit Poland during an exchange of fire between Russia and Ukraine. Poland and NATO now say the blast may have been a stray from Ukrainian air defense forces, not a Russian strike. Yesterday Russia attacked Ukraine. Ukrainian air defense, missile defense fired a lot of missiles to neutralize this Russian attack. It is estimated that maybe half, maybe more than half all Russian rockets were shot down The rest hit the Ukrainian territory. It is unfortunately highly probable that one of the missiles fired by the Ukrainian air defenses fell on our territory." The statement relieves global fears that the war in Ukraine could spill over the border. The missile landed on Polish territory four miles from the Ukrainian border, killing two people

2:42:36 Poland's president said it was a Soviet-made S300 rocket, but there was no evidence it was launched from the Russian side. The blast occurred as Russia launched dozens of missiles at several locations in Ukraine. Kiev said it shot down most of the incoming Russian missiles with its own air defense missiles. The Russian Defense Ministry has denied hitting any civilian targets, but NATO said Russia still bears ultimate responsibility because it started the war. Should we not have seen the NATO missile defense shield fire or at least alert something? It surrounds, as far as I understand all NATO member states. Could be a phony maybe just a piece of scrap that was flying around came coming in from a distance That's what it looked like to me look like there was an interceptor something Some poor guy couple people probably did get killed but by accident

2:43:38 or on accident as someone would say. Well make no mistake this was no accident we know who's to blame ultimately and once you get these guys coming out and making commentary well Then you know it's all bullcrap. This is Lloyd Austin, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. No Miley's still the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He's head of the Defense Department. We're still gathering information but we have seen nothing that contradicts President Duda's preliminary assessment that this explosion was most likely the result of a Ukrainian air defense missile that unfortunately landed in Poland. And whatever the final conclusions may be, the world knows that Russia bears ultimate responsibility for this incident."

2:44:33 Yeah, Russia launched another barrage of missiles against Iran specifically intended to target Ukraine's civilian infrastructure This tragic and troubling incident is yet. Another reminder of the recklessness Of Russia's war of choice new new meme Russia's war of choice It's interesting. Yeah, I wonder what they're gonna do with that one it used to be a legal war It used to Russia's War of Choice And well anyway this went down and a nice little script unfolded at g20 This is an incredible piece of video this is Russian justy I mean rishi and justy rishi the prime minister of Dishi rishi the Prime Minister of the UK and Justin Trudeau

2:45:27 PM of the Canadias. So they immediately called their friend Volodymyr to just check in and see how he was doing, and they did this on camera in a little office at the G20 together on a cell phone so this is the scene behind a desk we're seeing them both you know torso with the cell phone the cell phones on the desk they're both looking at the phone to call this really important person Hello Vladimir, it's Rishi and Justin. I really wanted you to hear from us as friends We absolutely know how difficult yesterday was It was horrific for you and your country And we have called it out in the session that we've just had and on the media here this morning

2:46:17 And we made that point loud and clear to everyone who was here, that what your country had to live through yesterday was unacceptable and represented yet more barbarity from the Russians. We stood united in condemning it. Rishi and I really wanted to reach out to reassure you, to show you were standing with you, and just say we're going to figure out this step by step all together. Thank you Vladimir! Talk to you soon Didn't even have the guy on the phone. What a crock of crap that was and they filmed the whole thing, it was staged? Looked to me like... For what purpose? To keep us informed so we're all one family or something but show that Ukraine's part of the Western scene or you know even though they're not in NATO We can take any of this seriously

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Final Producer Credits and Title Grants

The hosts conclude the show by reading the final list of producers who contributed under $100 and officially pronunciating the new Knights and Dames. They provide instructions for producers to claim their official No Agenda rings and certificates.

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2:47:10 This is their own version of propaganda to keep it going. Hey, we're calling you as friends Volodimir. They suck at it! Rishi and I just wanted to say hi how's the wife? How's the palace? What a crock! That's ridiculous! I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda Imagine all the people who could do that Oh yeah that'd be fab And we have a few people to thank for show 14 or 50 or 4 15 or 4504 who was at 15 almost 1505 yeah starting with anonymous of course

2:47:56 In Raleigh, North Carolina $133.33 Then there's Lucas Williams in Roswell New Mexico Hey! Hey! Send us some souvenirs Rod that's a hundred bucks Robert Pettah is also 100 from Sacramento Brian and Suzy Morris in Liberty, Maine. Oh! Okay there was something... yes so he sent me this 9er9r dot 9er9r because I visited them a long time ago on one of the Hot Pocket tours and they weren't even home they said oh you can just take our Mini And this is 9, 10, 11 years ago. The mini still exists and it turned... It went nine-nine-nine-nine-nine. It was about to turn over that meant it was time to donate. Yeah well they turned out over 99.99 of them. They sure did! Sean McKean in Galastonbury Connecticut 9876. Right there and the number four spot Sir Kevin McLoughlin Archduke Aluna

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No Agenda Meetups and Listener Clips

A list of upcoming producer-organized meetups is read, covering locations from Fort Wayne, Indiana to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. The hosts emphasize the community aspect of the show and encourage listeners to start their own local groups.

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2:53:49 15 years with us, 1500 episodes. Thanks for being patient you're all Black Knights and dames. No Agenda Meetups! Yeah that doesn't stop the meet-ups unique to the No Agenda show because they are completely producer organized and people love them Fort Wayne Indiana bring your report Four score in seven years ago no Hello, this is the third meeting in Fort Wayne. This is the best place to be. The server's name is Hillary. We're not going to hold that against her in the morning. In the morning PBR Street gang Indianapolis is truly a threat to democracy. This is Eli I second what he said and it's not hyperbole. This is Jonathan from Fort Wayne

2:54:34 enjoying my mac and cheese in the Eastern time zone where election deniers are welcomed. In the morning, Dame Trinity of the Pie Kaken. This is Shelly from Fort Wayne thank you for your courage. Jared from Fort Wayne not a spoof? Not a spoof! You guys are great Yeah one of these days we're gonna make it out to that one there's The Keepers old stomping grounds Meetups here's a quick list today the mile-high goodnight everybody meet up at 630 mountain hangar 101 Lakewood, Colorado You can make that easy Charlotte's Thursday 3rd Thursday monthly meetup 7 o'clock Edds Tavern Charlotte North Carolina Saturday, Ben's and Bernadette's. That brunch? 11 a.m., Takara Fort Worth Texas The Shrunken Amygdala Support Group 2 o'clock at Taft's Brewporium in Cincinnati Flight of the Noah Gen to meet up 3-034 Electric trains are good! 333 p.m. at Red Car Brewery & Restaurant in Torrance California

2:55:25 Also on Saturday, Local 1 pre-holiday at the Rink. That's the private rink in Rochester Michigan so make sure you contact whoever you need to contact noagendameetups.com The KC of No Agenda Barbecue is postponed due to lack of sign ups Good work, KC. And then on the next show day Sunday Crossroads of America The Tribal Meetup 3 o'clock at St Joseph Brewery and Public House in Indianapolis Indiana The TMI Evac Zone November meet up 330 Evergreen Brewing in Camp Hill PA The Secret Society for the Prevention of Sobriety 4 o'clock at Rock Island Public House Blue Island Illinois We couldn't even done that on the radio

2:56:07 Do you think we could have even made that joke? I don't think so. Myrtle Beach, also on Sunday Tourist season is over! Celebrated Arcade Bar the Old Malduros by the mall in Murrells Inlet South Carolina And finally the no agenda Friendsgiving Family Festival extravaganza Skippers Pier Coastal Cajun Kitchen in Gladewater Texas and your host for that will be The Dirty Jersey Whore He's a great guy hang out with the dirty Jersey whore. Those are your meetups, the ones that are just coming up in between the next two shows there are many more to see you think that you're weird? You're gonna fit right in if we have every kind of it takes every kind of people just like Robert Palmer said and you can find them at a NOAGENDA MEETUP NOAGENDAMEETUP.COM If you can't find one start one yourself! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days

2:57:01 I have a lot of weird isos. I have one, why don't you play yours and i think mine could top them all? Okay Here's one. Nope, too muddled. Um... I kinda like that one! No you can't hear that at all. Sub-level 33? What is this? Shut them down?! What is this? This is the only one I think is good

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Fentanyl Prills and Psychiatric Drug Statistics

Reports surface regarding "fentanyl prills" being manufactured in Canada and sold as counterfeit Xanax in the U.S. Additionally, data from the Citizens' Commission on Human Rights reveals that over 76 million Americans are on psychiatric drugs, including thousands of infants on antidepressants and millions of adults on Adderall.

fentanyl· xanax· ativan· cchr· psychiatric drugs

2:57:53 I like that guy. Yeah, okay you clearly the disdain in your voice says you've got something really good Well, I have something that's clear and it fits in at the end of a podcast especially ours And it's just crazy Crazy, that's a good one You get no argument for me on that normally like to fight you not on this one Okay, let's good Let me see, final things... Artemis we did all that. I really don't think that-I think i've kind of gotten through most of the things that were important? Oh yeah! The big pharma. These are just some things there's no clip just want to read this so we got some boots on the ground report

2:58:49 Okay, I've got it. Yeah, I can follow that with a COVID clip good The fentanyl pills the colored pills These are anonymous producers Adam want to add a note about the news reporting on the Fenta pills disguised as Xanax Oh this yet? Okay This has been potentially happening for a number of years now since the advent of darknet markets. The bulk drugs are illicitly purchased from underground Chinese labs as powder, then using counterfeit pillow pressing machines are pressed into things like Xanax bars. The bars are usually pressed in Canada Because the criminal code here for counterfeiting pharmaceuticals is a punishment of only a few years. Then the prills are brought over to the States and sold in bulk! These Chinese producers will make whatever you like so that people buying benzodiazepines have the option to buy fentanyl as well." Some darknet market sellers joked about putting fentanyl into bars instead of Xanax, some ended up doing it. So I did not know this was being done in Canada

2:59:55 Wow, that's a good little note. That's a great little note! Now about Ativan... Remember we had the official Zoomer tell us that she suspected our vice president was on Ativan which he called the CBD of antidepressants and we have a boots-on-the-ground report Because I've never taken Ativan, it's very popular though. For about two years I took 5mg of Ativan twice a day! I was in a crazy stressful job and have always had anxiety issues On Ativan my work was perfect Others were allowed 2% error rate without getting into too much crap from management My error rate was 0%. And I was buying $5-6 million in direct mail components and another million or so on postage. My golf game was better than ever

3:00:42 If Harris is taking Ativan, she's playing a dangerous game. The drug shifts your mind to the quote fuck it gear I found my financial and personal decisions were skewed to the don't worry about it and My credit cards recorded the reckless spending. I don't judge Harris as someone with great intellect She probably has an average or slightly better IQ and few street smarts that being said lower IQ people have difficulty with introspective thinking on a powerful drug like ativam He says, for the last 20 years or so I found the real cure for my issues. Have some faith in God! He doesn't want to see you fail and he also says... The other component is a steady supply of THC. I'm not talking about getting all baked up. I'm talking about finding a nice place in your head and maintaining the dose from there And then on this comes

3:01:35 A report from CCHR, the Commission on Human... Citizens' Commission on Human Rights. Number of people taking psychiatric drugs in the United States? We finally have a breakdown! How many psychiatric drugs total number of people in the United States are on any kind of psychiatric drug as we speak? 100 million Yeah, you're a little over. 76 million 940 thousand 157 Which means probably 100 million Pretty much everybody Let's look at Adderall My goodness We got almost 2 million 6 to 12 year olds on Adderall 1300 two to three-year-olds 57 thousand four to five year olds And of course 25 to 44 year olds 3 point two million

3:02:33 Antidepressants, 25 to 44 year olds 12 million. Wait how about young? Oh antidepressants zero to one years we still have 7,811 infants we have on antidepressants do you think that they were able to talk to the psychiatrist first? That's disgusting yeah this whole thing is it's in the show notes needs to be seen Well, so that takes me to my clip. I'm thinking about going different clips here but i'm gonna use this one anyway So you can that's all fine and dandy but if you veer away from the Official party line medicine has become just a joke now yeah it is

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

Fentanyl Vaccine and Show Sign-off

Scientists have reportedly developed a "fentanyl vaccine" to block the drug's effects on the brain. The hosts sign off with a reminder of the "value-for-value" model and play the "End of Show Mixes" by Mattie J and Fletcher Trap Dog.

fentanyl vaccine· cdc· vitamin d· elon musk· end of show mix

3:03:16 And here's what could happen to you. This is the COVID clip, listen to this. Wow. But the doctor says the government is only targeting him because he sought other treatments for COVID-19 instead of the vaccine. He says they want to make an example out of him according to the CDC, vitamin D does help the immune system fight off bacteria and viruses The case will stand trial in a Missouri federal court in March 500 billion cool Give me a break This is the this is a outrageous

3:04:17 Story you can't sue somebody for 500 billion because they didn't follow your rules Well the suing Alex Jones for a trillion Yeah, big numbers. The good news is in though big story big big story scientists have developed a fentanyl vaccine How about that? We won't have to go in and kill any cartel we won't have to stop the fun You can just micro dose this vaccine. Remember there was some other, remember they had the anti-smoking vaccine? Smoking cessation cocaine. There's a whole period during our show about 8 or 9 years ago where there were all these phony vaccines That was the big financial conference. They're finally here. Coming up next on noagenderstream.com we've got Bandrew Says

3:05:13 And Bandrew is going to do something about Elon's real plans for Twitter, so probably stay tuned and listen for that. End of show mixes We've got two We've got a brand new one from Mattie J and classic Fletcher Trap Dog. Haven't played that one in a long time Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region No 6 In The Morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I am John C. Dvorak We return with you...in our 16th year On Sunday join us here will ya please? Remember us at dvorak dot org slash N A Until Sunday everybody Adios Mofo!

3:05:57 and such! And OwieOwie is calling me a crackpot. Now beat it, Buzzkill Yesterday I was a crackpot. Turns out it's real buzzkill! Crackpot, a coup? Sergeant Buzzkill once again. You think of some kind of crackpot... Ah that's kind of a buzzkill. You have to be either an obsessive crackpot who escaped from his keeper or Samuel T. Cogley attorney at law. Buzz! Things were having crackpot on the city payroll. Think you did crackpot ideas? Buzzkill. Does that crackpot have long hair? The drunken crackpot. Hello?

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3:07:34 Buzzkill! Now I've never had truck. Dude, you are going to love it. What a buzzkill that was... We begin with a battle over paternity leave Alternative leave I deserve it. Hey, man. I should have this day off. I have privilege I have this beautiful Beautiful white Labrador labs are great dogs good beginner dog I gotta tell you man This dog was looking at me like choose me. I think we're going to adopt this dog trapdog Trapdawg is what it was this? What it was trapdog trapdog. That's what it was a trapdawg obviously whoa crap

3:08:24 Trap dog, trap dog. This is what it was... this-this-this-this is what it was. Trap dog, trap dog! Would you like a free dog? She's now stuck there. When I'm frustrated with John, I need something to kick so maybe this white lab will do. Just seems uh... like the right thing to do You can't do that By the way, you have an adult dog and they're either their calmest greatest really good dog or they're nuts No matter what. Well, I gotta tell you... Trap dog! Trap dog! This is what it was. This-this-this this is what it was. Trap dog! Trap dog! This is what it was. John, this dog? It was so sweet. It was just trap dog! Trap dog! That's what it was. Not the dog. The dog barked? That's what it was. Trap dog! Trap dog! You hear her? We have no idea about this dog really other than... Trap dog! Trap dog! This is what it was. When you call her she comes?

3:09:17 Crazy.