30:17 We do some stuff about Obby, who gets assassinated by a shotgun. A handmade shotgun. This was pretty crazy. It's kind of funny. But I wanted to get this... because we talked about this last show and I wanted to get the details back out of the way because we talked about Brittany Griner who is taking up a little too much in the news cycle But but boot this guy booed. Yeah, you see it's not not max Russian He is a Russian and if you I would recommend people go to Max boot done Max boot was his first name Can I just correct us we you and I were both talking about max boot in this context on the last show We are corrected obviously was not max boot No, but as this guy's disguise name is boot is spelled B O U T yeah And I would recommend you go to the wiki page
31:03 Yeah, well I'll tell you why. Well let's play these...I only have two clips and this is about Booten and Griner and this is a...this is um... and he is Russian, supposedly. And here is the Reiner Boot won NPR clip. Reports out of Russia indicate that the Kremlin is interested in a prisoner swap for Russian arms dealer Victor Boot. Can I just ask you? Is that something as a former ambassador that the US should consider? Well when I was the ambassador and I worked at The White House even before then, Victor Boot was in jail during that time and we heard many many offers
31:39 of trying to get him out. Remember, he's not just an arms dealer but in the Russian system he is probably linked and now I'm speculating here but if you just look at his background It sounds like he probably has connections to Russian intelligence services. And remember, the president of Russia does too Vladimir Putin so they want to get him out They've wanted to get about for a long long time it presents a problem for the United States system because He's a real criminal Who is this speaking? He said one of the ambassadors to one of the Eastern European countries during the Obama administration Okay
32:18 I hear that, I hear Boot is also connected to 9-11 in some odd way. Well he seems to be connected to everything! Okay got it But the thing is if you read his wiki page and I recommend people do that I'm trying to bring it up He uh... You find out how we got her? She's a real criminal goes on as a real criminal. You try to find the crime in there. Do you know what the crime is? No The old FBI entrapment game Really The US government arranged to sell arms to some douchebags that were on the list of you can't sell arms to these people, we'll come after you. And it was all American government agents that set this guy up and pretty much here's your push the button and the arms deal will go through, you're under arrest. Oh okay! So the Russians got really P.O'd about this
33:15 About this arrest and the fact that he's in jail because they claim that this is it was bullcrap It was entrapment of the highest order and even even in the wiki page. That explains it And it and they have never gotten anything else on the guys one of those situations where it's like Al Capone you had to get him with tax evasion because you couldn't get goods on him, and This guy seems to be that sort of person who's extremely talented as a gun arms dealer, but he was also working for the Russians it seems to me. So this... He's genuinely a genuine criminal and then Britney is not? She's a criminal! She was smuggling dope marijuana juice into Russia that's against their laws I mean what are you supposed to well the Russian law where they're useless and be you know we can smoke it in California
34:06 So this whole report really irked me from that perspective. She is a criminal in the country she's in, if you're in a country where you can't get divorced and you get divorced it's a crime! You're a criminal there! In Texas if you have more than six dildos it's a crime Is that true? Yes, believe it or not. No I know there's a bunch of stupid laws like that! Yep that's the one and if they catch you... That would be one of them And if they catch ya, you're in trouble What do they do to ya?! I don't know, I dunno if you can walk... I dunno but I dunno wanna find out You walk to the car? NO
34:45 So anyway, so I found that annoying that they would put this...I think this guy's been unjustly arrested and held for a decade or more already. And it's like okay because it was an attractive deal but he probably is a bad guy. Hey Victor what are you in for? You know arms dealing to the wrong people what do you win four seven dildos Well, I'll make it. I got something to trade. OK? So now the so that the guy I mean law enforcement has their own kind of behind the scenes way looking at stuff and say this is a bad guy he's a bad guy we're going him in jail finally got him in jail on this like corn pop piece of bad dude. Corn yeah corn pop.
35:32 So, you know we got him in jail but it was like trickery and underhanded illegal methodology which makes you a crook. But okay fine and Britney's jealous she poor girl but then I'll play part two of this in a second I just have another complaint he started listening to these reports There's now she's got with some lawyer, someone representing her wife going on about well if she was a white guy or LeBron James she'd be out by now. And I'm thinking what do you notice the kind of privilege she has? They don't mention the fact that there are two white guys
36:14 That they're trying to also get out of Russia who got arrested for one reason or another very similarly You know the kind of a like let's arrest these guys for no good reason and throw them in jail They're not getting out. They don't get any attention she has basketball player privilege that is above and beyond all this other bullcrap it's called BB PP There you go. Let's play the second half. He is a real criminal and the Department of Justice convicted him, and he is in jail for good reason. Brittany Greiner is not a real criminal so they feel very uneasy about doing those kinds of swaps that said we've done it before just earlier this year the Biden administration traded
36:57 Konstantin Yurashchenko, another Russian prisoner convicted a criminal for Trevor Reed. And back in 2010 when I was in the government, I was working at the White House at that time we swapped spies. A dozen of them that we picked up here in the United States and returned for four Russians that we wanted to get out of Russian prisons so there is precedent for these things to happen. Would freeing boot actively hurt American national security? That's a tough call. I can imagine my colleagues in the Biden administration struggling with that and having differences of opinion My personal view is it's a trade worth taking. I would add others, by the way, not just Brittany Greiner. Paul Whelan is unjustly being held. Mark Fogle is another American convicted for 14 years in prison in Russia for the same alleged crime as Brittany Greiner so I would pursue a swap to get all those Americans out but
37:53 But I think it's worth the trade. Yes, I would take the deal. I want to talk a little bit about the US response so far over the last six months. It feels like in the past few days there has been much more organized push from people in Brittany Greiner's orbit to get the U.S government to take action even though she was detained in February. The U.S did not declare Greiner wrongfully detained until May Why, in your view hasn't there been more urgency from the US government on responding to this? You know I don't want to presume that that is true. It feels that way of course to those who have loved ones in jail Oh man okay first of all The whole thing is just kind of funny against a backdrop of United States incarceration system where we have 1.5 million black men In jail for drugs
38:45 All right, let's just put that there. Second you're right this is trending it's annoying it's too much remember I got the call from Pachenik not to call but I got an email like oh we have to do a trade so this something up and its either this is the out this how we settle things in Ukraine okay now were gonna settle things and we can do swap and then were all going be friends kind of or it's to embarrass Biden and it's coming from the State Department Which is what I suspect. Well, you know how my thinking on this would be? It would be the embarrassed Biden because of the opinion that they've been trying to get Biden... I agree. Especially since he announced that he's going to run for re-election and this is going to continue until he either dies of old age or