The WOCU Show

00:01 Hey kids, don't shake fist. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's November 5th 2009 time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 145 This is no agenda Trailing the Lisbon Treaty and tracking the WOKU And coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West San Francisco California In The Morning I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley back again I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Yo-ho, John. It is... The 5th of November Yeah And you know what we're supposed to say then? Uhhhhhhhhh.... It's... it's Guy Fawkes Day Remember remember the fifth of November The gunpowder treason and plot I know no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot I love that Conspiracy theorists everywhere

01:02 reciting that those five lines. I don't even remember it! It's from a hold on, hold on John let me just check something here are we actually recording? Yeah i think we are dude so like the worst thing in the world happened yesterday I took my laptop to the office and fans of the show We'll know that I have my MacBook Pro completely jacked out. Everything is self-contained, the whole show, the streaming, the MIDI controllers... The special Skype setup is all configured on my Mac with Core Audio and it's bleeding edge for the Mac. Jacking audio streams under the hood

01:50 And I opened up my Mac and the screen was dead. So, the Mac was working? It's like this is like the worst thing that I could imagine happening right? And so I got Jeff over and he's like... I don't know man. He said well I got it to turn on a couple times but it didn't turn on every time. Like oh! I so don't need this And so we decided to bite the bullet and transfer everything to the new unibody MacBook Pro. Which of course is a really dangerous thing to do because you know it's like will all these settings actually port over?

02:29 and uh... you know bear in mind that uh... mac has since upgraded its operating system for the new macbook pros right so you were worried sick freaking out, worried sick as a dog i might add. I called mickey said oh baby my laptop blew up and uh... and so i got it transported to a new one she's like okay i'm canceling dinner plans all of everything ready for you when you come home she is like oh my god this is going to be an all nighter for sure But actually it worked out I have to say chapeau bas to the the Apple dudes, I'd only had to replace like you know Like upgrade one or two drivers and it kind of worked and there you go. We're on it right now Yeah well that sounds like a good thing how much time did you have to spend?

03:17 Well, Jeff spent a couple hours with the transfer. Oh I see what you're saying You had so yes and you have that firewire trick where you start up a new Mac and then you can say transfer everything over from my old Mac but then you have to go in and you know software which you had to use IT the IT department yes you had the genius bar Expert the genius bar get a computer to work. No, I had actual work to do John You know But you know I had to get up at 5 this morning to do all the show prep I couldn't do because I didn't have a computer Just saying yeah course somebody criticized me I can't that we got to stop saying just sans you'd do it and I do it both and everybody's doing it Well, we've started a trend

04:06 I don't know about that. So today's show, by the way our executive producer we actually have an executive producer but i have to give a associate executive producer award out too and a so-called AEP an AEP yes so Scott Rodriguez is our executive producer for this show which is numbered what was the number on the show uh this is 145 yes 145 why why is scott executive producer? What does he do? He gave us 250 dollars whoa wait wait a minute is this uh is this Is this Scott who we called his buddy? Yeah. That was kind of cool Did you call his buddy yeah, I did Jose yeah, yeah, I called Jose His last name is can-you see isn't that weird? I'm just saying and Lenard ran Ran Kama which is probably a Dutch guy

04:58 Yeah. Rrrrinkumah, say it with me John. Rrrrinkumah. Rrrrriiiingkumah! There you go And he gave us 222 bucks just came in under the wire so I thought I'd give him a call out Thank you both very much. You can put that on your resume, on your CV and we will vouch for you and you can actually say I was the executive producer of No Agenda episode 145 And once we've uploaded the show you'll know what the subtitle is It always kind of looks good if you executive produced an episode like Mad Men or Lost is maybe even better Then there's always an episode like The Others Are Coming

05:34 You know, it just looks better on the CV. It does! Yeah and we'll vouch for you. Yeah we don't have a problem with it Not at all So um anyway so go on with your little story So it worked out, you know. That's what it is supposed to do although normally you don't need an entire IT department just to get a Macintosh running No that part wasn't just to get the mac running that was so I could do some other stuff but then I spent probably two and half hours updating software because with a lot of the software you have to get a new version because it doesn't run on Snow Leopard

06:11 And here's the thing that bugs me. So this has got to be like a what? A $2,000 laptop these things aren't cheap They're not that much they're not there actually they're real good deal really which size screen you get 15 inch I don't know it's probably about twelve twelve hundred bucks three hundred bucks But it's got the like the 2.66 processor and anyway okay so it was 12 1400 bucks But if you want to hook up your existing hardware, like an external screen or a Firewire disk... Once again they've changed the connectors!

06:48 So you have to have the... How else are they gonna make any money? Well, I tell ya. I had to go to the Apple Store at 830 last night to get the viewport accessory because you can't just plug in a monitor anymore You have to have a viewport dongle that goes in this little teeny weeny plug and then it goes into the DVI So now if actually I was stupid, I should have bought a viewport VGA dongle because if I'm doing a presentation somewhere where they don't have DVI then of course. I'll be out of luck It's just lame they don't even include one in the box Let me come on it's not like standard you can just plug something in who knew? You know that you have to get a view port $29.95

07:34 you know what can I say? Anyway, what we can say is that it has finally been done. Yes it has taken on two years longer than they expected but congratulations to the European Union you now are one as a the uh... there are one fascist side buck love clouse finally signed the lisbon treaty and ratified it to this past tuesday so just in time for the fifth of november um... also uh... so incredibly symbolic just-in-time you now are indeed the united states of europe and uh... your unelected officials will soon elect a president for you

08:21 It's all over. Isn't it amazing that they could create this giant, you know mega country and then take away everybody's rights to actually elect its own leadership? To do anything! And there is this huge guffaw going on in the UK... Excuse me about uh... european taxes that will have to be paid maybe even following the sun on top of all the other taxes yes so uh... the u k it will help you know where we stop stop stop okay wait let me get this straight

09:00 I should have never sent you that Glenn Beck clip. That's our new European Union sound So let me get this straight, so i'm a Frenchman let's say Yes you would be the perfect Frenchman by the way And i am paying taxes to support my local community No no you would be paying LE taxes I'd be paying the taxes to pay for my government of you know, what's around me. I'm paying to support the...you know what's going on Now that, why am I going to pay more taxes because everything is already covered? No! Because we need a European army. That shit is expensive ma'am Well why don't they just take it from the French Army? Just take a few Frenchmen We have an army in France Let's just move some of these guys over Oh please, le army en la France is not le good We all know that They've got weird looking helmets

09:54 It's no good. The Foreign Legion... Wait, you're gonna tell me they're going to tax on top of all the already high taxes? Yeah so as an example... This just shows you how smart they are in Switzerland and Norway. Even though the United Kingdom is not participating in the Euro, they are of course a member of the European Union still hoping to get Tony Blair in as El Presidente. Secret plans with a forward by European Union Commissioner José Manuel Borracho says that the European taxes could cost every British family at least 155 pounds a year. That's about four billion pounds in taxes going to the European Union, extra taxes everybody so you know please calculate on a pro-rata basis for your country according to size and population So in Le France you would probably be paying more because there are more people. Yeah, French pay a lot of taxes isn't that just cool?

10:59 Yeah, I like know where the money's going so that to build an army So what so they can invade someplace try it. They're gonna go they're gonna go after Russia again bring some new Napoleon You know if Tony Blair over it's a do-over John Attack Russia attack Russia we didn't do it right the first time We got to do it again this time. We're coming with all of us are all together All the goals yeah instead of just France uh... jimmy just france is germany going after russia they've never combined forces to go after right now and i was there chance that you know and it was the russians i'd be concerned because they get the rushing out all the oil they have as much oil as the saudis do well that of course is what afghanistan's all about this because uh... did near the west which is called that the

11:48 North American Union and the European Union want to transport oil without having to deal with Russia. So they want to build this Unicol pipeline right across Afghanistan, and let me see who's running Afghanistan again? What was his name Karzai who did he work for wasn't it Unicol It's Unical actually. Yeah, so I pronounce it in the European way by the way We want to congratulate we want to follow the lead of the United Nations and congratulate Karzai on winning his election He is amazing how he does that? Congratulations on winning your election after you either killed off your opponent or they just went away Good job

12:29 that uh... this gentleman you're listening to no agenda our formula is deadly simple are formally is this we go out we get people in the mouth and and you know what we enjoy doing it we enjoyed uh... when we were a recall from san francisco forty eight you guys are misusing your can use them until i had intellectual property and then he really can't There was some more interesting news out of Afghanistan from the Minister of Counter-Narcotics. He says, this is one of those... there's gambling going on there? The Afghan minister of counter narcotics says foreign troops are earning money from drug production in Afghanistan! Really?!

13:23 He went on to say that NATO forces are taxing the production of opium in the regions under their control. I love it! That's so brazen, man. Not only will you make...make you grow it and we'll ship it but we're gonna tax you for growing it It's fantastic This is like the Roman Empire Screw jobs they used to pull, you know. It's like okay let's take over this area now you're gonna get taxed and get your money. Well that's basically robbing people Yeah correct well You know that's kind of what Hitler did yeah Did Hitler create a new world currency? Did he ever try that now? He was too busy robbing people of their art I got a note from From my buddy Parkin. He's the guy who sent me the the 100 trillion dollars in Bob way note

14:17 that I put on my website. You're bugged now, aren't you? Yeah now it's one...I get 100 trillion dollars from Zimbabwe so he is in finance and he sent me this article about the WOKU which will launch January 1st 2010 The WOKU stands for World Currency Unit and uh... we can see as a couple of articles that he did he said then this is essentially what it but i believe the supposed to become the new reserve currency is going to be a basket of stuff of different currencies which will be uh... kind like the s m p five hundred wayway where you're telling me this is gonna be a derivative it'll be driven by my book a in its form of currency yet there were people paper but heat what he's seeing is that it's already being put into the financial system so there's a swift

15:08 You know, SWIFT is the system... The International Currency Transfer System so that the CIA can see if you're sending terrorist money back and forth. Right So it's already been entered as a valid currency in the database Oh really? That's interesting! Yeah It's already in there But wait a minute let me get this straight This bogus currency Yes The Woku What a crappy name I love the name No its good for people Hey! You owe me 10 Woku's Dvorak. I mean it sounds like yeah, well this is probably sound more Hey sailor give me hundred wokus. I gave you lots of love. I'll give you a woku back if you will cool cool back baby Woku-woku Amy said son. Yeah Fonzie the bear yeah so anyway So this thing is already in the system so I could actually transfer some wokus and

16:02 uh... what's it in the database it'll it'll have a little start as of january first okay and then i will have a value yes they will have a dollar or or as we tend to say people at the office doing that involved people andrew grumman i should be going on right during the entire offices manages a listen to our show is going like Which is a good thing by the way. That only one guy listens to it? Mm-hmm Yeah, you're probably right so uh... It's an office full of progressives let's say Meanwhile Now you were up north in and I do want to hear a little bit about your trip The great white North Gitmo nation yeah gold jumped to record high

16:55 After India's central bank bought 200 metric tons from the IMF It rose to $1,088 and 50 cents an ounce So they're going to just pass it out to the public. Hey, hey get your gold everybody! Come on over here! Everybody in India gets gold! It was really funny I was at the dentist yesterday had some like an emergency crown thingy had to be done and i have two gold inlays and there's this really funny adorable Russian assistant and she's maybe like 60 or whatever

17:32 But she really has a real heavy Russian accent. And so I'm laying there in the chair and Dr. Emily is doing me. And as she looks at my mouth, she says, Ha! Very nice gold you have there. I was like what? Could you please move her back away from me? Then she's got pliers and shit...I don't want her messing with my gold inlay It's getting a little freaky Is it a gold inlay across the front of your mouth so it says curry or something like that? Yes, it is my grill. I'm gonna get me a grill that says Woku So if you've been listening to this very program at the beginning of the show when we started, what is it now John? Almost three years ago. We started 13 years ago! Then you would have made quite a nice little bit of profit if you had invested along with me in purchasing gold I think a lot of people did so yeah as you know I think its time to sell

18:37 I think really oh, really okay. Let's mark this down November 5th John says sell the gold Adam says it's blitz blasting right through mm hold on to it yeah people somebody out there take notes on this um I Say if you may it may hit 1100 but then it's gonna that's gonna be the end of it You're such an optimist They have to drop it back. It's good. It's all rigged. We'll drop back a little bit all rigged and Yeah, but the physical gold is really the cool part of it. Yeah great you can use it as a doorstop? Correct So let's get into some interesting issues that took place over the last week before I talk about Canada Okay Do you realize...I don't know if you follow the Doug Hoffman story

19:30 Doug Hoffman, no I can't say is that I have. Yeah the district 23rd congressional district in New York had this... Oh yeah know a little bit about it go ahead all right here let me give you the scenario how this works So, they had a Republican as the... you know the Democrats need to get in. A few more Democrats because they're bickering amongst themselves so they had a Republican who was a representative there named John McHugh and Obama decided to uh... and I think this whole thing was set up by the way Obama decides to take John McHugh off from a plum job to get him out of Congress and make him Secretary of the Army

20:12 And of course the guy's crazy not to take it. Why? Is that such a great gig, Secretary of the Army? Yeah you would think of the retirement benefits so anyway... and the health plan! ...and the health plan and the fact that you get to boss people around You know you don't get to do that as a congressman you just sit there bored stiff So this district has been Republican since 1873 It has been Republican since 1873. Wait, and this guy was a Republican or Democrat? Yes he was a Republican it's one of those things where Obama pulls a few Republicans here and there And how convenient to pull a Republican out of the district Since they have a scheme afoot

20:58 Let's pull a Republican out of the district that has never been taken by a Democrat since 1873. What year was that again, John? So the next thing that happens is that a woman is chosen by the Republicans in New York State, Dede Miskosifava who is just a mainstream moderate Republican So she is, uh... toes the line on all the Republican stuff and she's like except that she's pro-life. And she doesn't care about gay marriage. So she's not really a good Republican? No no no! She's a Republican. She's not a good conservative. Ah okay right

21:41 So the next thing, you know, number two plan two after pulling this guy out is to just take the kind of counter mouthpiece for the Democrat party according to our show which is Fox News and have all the fox people led by Glenn Beck find some bonehead named Doug Hoffman who's a tea bagger Who is also a CPA and one of the dullest people you've ever heard in your life. I heard him on Hannity show, he's a big supporter of this guy and run him as a conservative against the Republicans, splitting the vote so the Democrat can get in. Right it's basically set up it was all setup for that to happen. Now the only one who spotted this in the Republican Party was obviously Newt Gingrich and Peter King and the NRA who all supported the woman but Barbara Bachmann who is an idiot is attractive as she is she comes out with all of those conservatives we need these conservatives

22:39 And then the other idiot, Palin. Oh we need to put this guy in! And then a bunch of other... lot of has-beens and where you know just ne'er do wells from the Republican Party come out Hannity comes out or O'Reilly comes out Beck is the big promoter of this and ta da since 1873 We've never had anything but a Republican now we have a Democrat did that work out for you people? Is that what you are angling for us? What you got well, so now let's just follow this up they did the republicans are trying to figure out what you know well just this is okay because we can run against uh... you know it is going in order soon here this guy and the next uh... term two years from now we got it made of there was a lot of electioneering that was done by these people does hoffman people those illegal police were called out the whole thing was a fiasco i wonder who just for people who are

23:39 who are spouting this concept that the conservative, kind of a... this conservative knee-jerk conservative agenda is not going to work. You know, the fact of the matter is this is what happened to the state of California. It was taken over by the religious right and we got nothing but Democrats in here and the only time... The only reason Schwarzenegger got in it's because he snuck in. That's because he's married to a hot Democrat Well I don't think that's the reason Anyway, the point is that This principle or you know Oh! I've got my principles, I can do anything They don't..you have to consider compromise negotiation governance

24:20 improving the plight of the people, making the country stronger. There's a million reasons that you try to go into office but these people are just going to be standing by the sidelines with their principles as the Democrats run the country into the ground and this is where we're headed with the Glenn Beck theory of who should be running or being in office and this Rhino thing that all these people go, oh Republicans are name only Republicans in name only, apparently these people include Nixon and Eisenhower. So what's the point here John? What are you saying? What do you advise? Get off your high horse!

24:58 John, it doesn't matter. This woman would have won and it does matter because when all is said and done she was against cap-and-trade but now there's a pro cap-and-trade guy in. Is that what you want? No! I don't vote there! Just saying... You can say that. We need a bell. Speaking of Glenn Beck, There's some whispering going on out there ever since Lou Dobbs was fired upon that you know Glenn Beck had acute appendicitis did you hear about this? No. So he has a Canada, he was on the radio and I wish i had a clip of this but it was on his radio show and all the sudden he's off in these like in the hospital yes acute appendicitis but uh... the word is someone tried to give him two to the head

25:48 I'm not kidding. That's that's really going around the circles And you know that they're out to get him, you know that they did they hate him yeah You can go google that man. I just googled back tutor They had but got nothing Not yet keep saved that search Speaking of that lo and behold The British nuclear experts 17th floor United Nations building death plunge was not suicide. It has now been ruled the family didn't like the autopsy so they went back, did another one, did a CAT scan

26:33 And it looks like he was killed in his office, which is on the sixth floor and then dragged up to the seventeenth floor and then thrown down the stairs. you don't think throwing him down the stairs to six floors is just as good? No, I think it hides more evidence. What's the point of moving him? Because they didn't... a sixth floor drop may not kill ya, and they killed him on the sixth floor then they had them move him up to the 17th so he was working on the nuclear test ban projects this is exactly like David Kelly this is exactly what happened

27:10 before uh... the weapons of mass destruction iraq is exact same thing that i was probably whistleblower and they often yet there was a whistle blower well you know you get it in a video with some more i think he got him you have to be you know you have to have a lot about you have a lot if you had to have exit strategies backup plans all kinds of things planets or anything happens do you all this information gets out you have to have a dead man's not now you have to have a Something like an email set to fire off to every news agency or a video, that if you don't check in every week and issue some command it starts emailing. That's what you need! That is the dead man's knob. I got one. If i get two to the head... Dude some people are in big trouble because that e-mail goes out

28:01 Email about what? Everything I know, John. It's a whole spreadsheet! Okay?! It's a database that will be revealed all my secrets Meanwhile the Acta thing that we've been following also for over two years i think Certainly a year and half. I think, yeah, year and half at least This is the anti-counterfeiting trade agreement which is so secret that The Obama administration refuses to disclose it due to national security concerns So at least part of it has leaked Yeah It was leaked on BoingBoing in other places but it came out of some lawyer's blog And I gotta wonder though when it leaks to BoingBoing That's gotta be pretty intentional

28:52 I would think, but the other thing is of course Cory Doctorow is kind of a copyright nutcase and he is essentially one step removed from Richard Stallman. That's quite a stretch! And by the way that's close to an insult...I'd be careful with that. Yes, so it's all about... It's kind of the same thing that's already law in France where ISPs you know three strikes your out rule notice and take down. It's all about breaking DRM. It just more the same So I think it is a distraction if anything might be because some really interesting news came out

29:48 Just the other day one of our producers sent it to me and this is and this also has to do with trademarking And copyright law, and I'm not going to start the jingle because I'm sure we'll get to it later But turns out that a couple of scientists who actually work for the World Health Organization influenza laboratory Hold a patent for a bioengineered swine flu virus which of course means that they hold the patent on the vaccine So a couple of things are interesting about this. One, they filed the patent in 2006 I find that to be highly amusing.

30:29 Yeah, you know no you broke up. I couldn't hear the oh, I said they filed they filed a patent in 2006 I find that to be rather amusing on the timeline of this white flu yes 2006 is when it was filed The swine flu didn't even appear well They were already making it and had patented it Well that's an interesting development Yes That's why I find it rather interesting and that they work for the World Health Organization. No, they work for the World Health Organization Oh, the one run by that woman? Yeah! Like the one who set the pandemic levels The one who has a treaty... you know, the world health constitution that you sign if they say forced vaccinations were supposed to listen to them And their from New Zealand Robert Webster and Richard Webbie

31:22 Interesting there are listed as patent holders for US patent application blah blah blah genetically engineered swine flu So Webster holds the Rosemary Thomas Chair in Virology at St. Jude's Children Research Hospital, he is also a director of the World Health Organization's Collaborating Center on the Ecology of Influenza Viruses in Lower Animals and Birds which coincidentally is the world's only laboratory designed to study influenza at the animal-human level. I mean it's sketchy! It just doesn't get any clearer

32:04 It's pretty obvious. You mean the whole thing is a scam and probably swine flu was genetically engineered in the first place? Sure looks like it! Well that's the way you do it, I mean first to create this solution and then cause the problem This what happened with computer viruses Yes They weren't even popular until they were kind of popularized by antivirus companies Yeah And people keep on installing that Symantec stuff...I just don't get it Don't you see?! Don't you get it!? usually that would end up arguing is to go to a Macintosh or Linux. Case in point. Now talking about Linux I might mention this by the way, you get back on this District 23 thing is Richard Stallman since you mentioned him we will try and get him on Cranky Geeks but he would be great on Cranky Geeks Will he ever come on Cranky Geeks? No and Ill tell you why

32:59 We had tried to get him because he's an absolutist. He's like one of these conservative Republicans If that show isn't streamed in Ogvor bus, then I'm not coming on the show No as it was the following He said okay, I'll come on this show but anytime you refer to Linux you have to call it good new Linux So no we're gonna do that Coming on well then he never gets on anything and Because he has all these, you know I have my absolutist way of doing this. I refuse compromise. Hold on a second... Which by the way is the problem with the state of California we have no... John hold on would it kill ya? Would it kill ya to have the guy on just if you had to say GNU Linux would really kill ya

33:45 Would it be that tough for you? Or are you an absolutist, because that's clearly what is going on here. No the problem is he makes such a stink about it That was just... if we agreed to that then there would be something else Well you don't know that! I'm gonna talk to Carlos and Sebastian And we'll get the guy on and every time we do it in post So every single time you say Linux I go GNU! And we'll just insert a little GNU. I've talked to Stallman, the other problem is he's probably not going to be good television. Hold on... What did you do? My mic stand just fell. The paper towel rack? No it's not the paper towel rack anymore its uh... It's the Radio Shack telescopic antenna remember? Oh the... Ouch! Sorry the roach clip just clipped me That hurt

34:36 What did it hurt? Did you get it on your nose or something? No, I pinched my finger. Speaking of GNU Linux our favorite 18 million dollar website recovery.gov has been changed they had to spend the money on something what do they spend that on they spend it on changing it from the wonderful The hell is that open source thing called? Drupal. They changed it to SharePoint Why? Give the money to Microsoft of course! Sharepoint?! Yeah, they're saying that they couldn't display all their snazzy graphs and data That's bullshit you can do anything in Drupal Apparently you can if you work for the government John It's literally what is says

35:31 Originally, Recovery.gov... This is a lie by the way! Whatever you do if that is what you're going to read me I'm gonna tell you in advance it's a lie Okay let me just read it to you and originally recovery.gov version 1.0 was powered by Drupal an open source content management platform offering blogs forums newsletters and podcasting amongst its features But users were not able to follow the recovery funds from beginning to end as the Obama administration had envisioned and promised. Nor could site administrators use the site to handle the approval process needed to collect, sort and display spending data being collected from recipients of the funds

36:11 As a result, the site became a target and verbal punching bag for watchdogs open government advocates and lawmakers who were underwhelmed with the content and capability of recovery.gov Go look at it now and tell me if you understand what's going on I'm reading by the way a blog right here. It says depending on which license you purchase SharePoint can cost from $4,000 to $25,000 but what does it... What does the price get you? It doesn't offer any advantage over free and open source software e.g. Drupal. Yeah of course not! Well let me go look at it

36:51 What, Recovery.gov? Yeah I'm looking at it now hang on It's confusing! It's just a whole bunch of data Did they make the switch over? Yeah...I guess so It looks kind of the same You know well... Are you sure that this is the same thing let me take a look at its source They better not say created by powered by Drupal But what does it say in the first line Adam do you believe that?! What does it say in the first line Never mind. I guess the joke over it's not me no you said your career is in a hole you broke up That's why honey stop Stop uploading porn. It's fine cuz I loaded this thing well No, I can I have a network monitor running here and so the minute Mickey's uploading the porn? I can see it So that wasn't you I can't immediately tell gosh damn its horrible incidents. I think Matt

37:50 There you go. Well, you know it's because I'm on recovery org let me kill it probably yeah Maybe you should hang in the hell out of ya It's so incredibly Net aware that it's probably sucking down the contents of your entire drive too late Yeah zapped at already So what else we got? Oh, let's talk about Canada a okay So the Canadians are completely freaked out about H1N1 because it's all that the CBC talks about. I go up to Port Angeles and i'm watching Canadian news before I go to Canada, and its just H1N1, like the national news, that is all it is! And it mostly showing long lines...I mean we're talking long lines with mostly pregnant women holding their baby kind of people in line they can't get their shots

38:47 and they're interviewing him, oh I wish i could get my shop back to come back again tomorrow. So talking about nothing to see here Don't look over here! Nothing to see here. Ooh, look at that! So a scandal breaks out... Oh it's a scandal A Canadian scandal The Calgary Flames apparently as the headline puts it jumped the queue No! Don't say its not true John And they says, and there's headlines in the various newspapers of despicable actions of the Calgary Flames. They got their flu shots without standing in line

39:29 And that's word of God. It's like this, the Calgary Flames didn't have to stand in line! This is terrible they should've stood in a long line like the rest of us That is such a perfect media assassination that it such a great meme to spread and I think they'll use that here as well, I think they even tried that I recall, no it was in the Netherlands they tried this already where they said oh well politicians and famous people will get the shot first. It didn't go anywhere, the meme just didn't spread properly but i bet its all over the news right? That's all people are talking about is how... Front page headlines! Oh yeah of course

40:06 front page headlines about how and they fired the doctor who apparently worked for the government this guy's ruined. I love it, well we might as well play the jingle then so they fired a doctor and they are as i speak now they are still harping on this and now there has been two or three websites that have cropped up boycotting the Calgary Flames for jumping the queue And there's a woman being interviewed on the radio as I was headed back to the airport. This is all... It's on! Oh, I will never go to another Calgary Flames game and I refuse to deal with the National Hockey League. As long as I live, I'll never do it again. The National Hockey League sucks because they did this and meanwhile the other hockey teams are wondering why they didn't get any shots? And now this like then the latest thing that I saw is I left just had to roll my eyes over this one

41:00 is that the BC Lions, which is the football team from Vancouver. The coach put an edict out and you have to realize we're talking about professional football. The coach put an edict out because of the possibility of spreading swine flu no high fives No high-fives no high five because it might spread the swine flu Meanwhile these guys are bashing into each other Don't they have gloves on

41:36 What the hell is that? Most of them have gloves, it's cold up there. They've got gloves face masks what's going on this is crazy This is crazy! And they're rolling around in a pile but you can't go high fives no high five I love hey you know we're doing everything we can to combat the spread of H1N1 swine flu so uh there'll be no high five and there's really no counter-programming to the H1N1 uh... It is the greatest show on earth. Why would there have to be any counter programming? it's that it's the best thing ever there's a this is for his uh... video clip that's been going around about accounts on foreign relations meeting where a whole bunch of uh... and academics in doctors and getting together you're talking about how well how they combat the negative messaging about uh... h one n one vaccination and uh... yes other they kind of bantering about trying to come up with ideas

42:38 as to how they can actually get people to take the vaccine, you know there's all the anti-vaxxers etc. And this is the 13 seconds in the clip that really does it for everybody that is just too funny here listen to this genius woman who was on the panel who has a great idea and of course listen to how they laugh about this great idea I think what would work better would be if say there was a shortage and people tend to line up more for something that demands You saw that there was one season where really people lined up all night to get a flu shot. Yeah, that's what they're doing in Canada Well but they're doing it here too New York Times It's even gotten better John The nation is now facing a vaccine shortage for seasonal flu

43:26 This is horrible. They got the Nintendo marketing guy there that did the Wii? That's exactly it! It is exactly it, they're using the same concept they use for the Wii I love it, its great and meanwhile... They've tested some of the European vaccines And according to French researchers who published this in Le Journal Nature Biotechnologie, that there are two specific nanoparticles in the vaccine. Now, nanoparticles of course this is something that the vaccine industry has been looking at for a while because it's supposed to be kind of like the new adjuvant where these miniature particles rush through not just your bloodstream but through cells and everything making the effect of them on the vaccine much more powerful Of course asbestos is also a nanoparticle

44:26 uh... and it's not been tested but apparently it's in the in the uh... some of the european versions of the vaccine so that should be a be interesting I like the fact that they're experimenting on the public en masse. We're not talking about little tests here and there in some podunk area or what they used to do in the South where they used to get black people and only test on them, or prisoners... Yeah what happened with The Good Old Days John? The Good Old Days when we tested on prisoners and the poor now their testing on the entire public so nobody has anything to complain about Meanwhile, and I'm really interested more. What am i going to say about the safety of it? We won't really know until... We'll find out eventually Eventually but its gonna take quite a while so im very interested as you say in the Nintendo marketing aspect of it And what I found fascinating in Gitmo Nation East in The Netherlands contradictory to a study that was just done by CBS News

45:28 So CBS polled a number of states independently and said okay of all the cases of people coming into the hospital who think they have swine flu what percentage of those people actually have swine flu? And it turns out that it was a very small percentage like 15 or 16 percent. I thought it was less than 10 It was in some cases, it was like you know 7 but I'll just say an average was like ten percent Let's just call it an average of ten in the Netherlands the Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieu, surely you've heard of it. Which of course is a governmental body is saying that 95% of everyone coming into the doctor's office has the Mexican flu which of course is their marketing for swine flu in Europe

46:20 I just find that fascinating. So either they're really, really sick or someone's... They're full of crap is what's fascinating about it here let me give you another one this is we're on the topic and I apologize to people out there who think this is boring because there's a guess one person that thinks that so now they've discovered a cat with swine flu So now the funny thing is, the CDC itself and everybody else says we don't really test for it where there's really swine flu. We just go by the symptoms because if the test is expensive... so why would somebody even test? If you got a sick cat who would suspect they would have swine flu to the point where you'd test for it this is bull! And now they say there's a swine flu infected dog

47:02 Now, I'm reminded of a story that came out when I used to write op-eds for the San Francisco Exam Room. This was probably in the mid 80s There was a scandal over grapes coming in from Chile where someone had apparently put cyanide into the batch and all the grape shipments had to be stopped. This is obviously some sort of commerce scam, and they showed a photo of a grape with a pinprick in it where the cyanide was injected into a single grape amongst, I guess what? 100 billion grapes that were coming in from Chile and they showed these two grapes with pinpricks which seemed to me like an unlikely thing to discover if it was even the case. Because it wasn't! I'm examining my grapes for pinpricks

47:53 And so I wrote up the fact that this obviously was bogus because you know it's just impossible for this sort of thing to happen and there were some other back story that we didn't know and i never did find out what it was but it was obviously somebody wasn't getting the right kind of bribe or whatever. The next thing, oh wait! The grapes are now cleared for import So they started bringing in the grapes again and then there was never any follow-up to this bull Of course not There is no way Meanwhile Meanwhile in the Ukraine people are really dying quickly. Yeah, there's something going on here And this is not swine flu 478 thousand people have influenza over 24 thousand hospitalized

48:34 60 are on ventilators and or breathing apparatus, and 81 reported dead. But it's this is the hemorrhagic flu am I pronounced that correctly? Yeah. Hemorrhagic. And of course you know I have a suspicion that this isn't your Baxter International has a plant up there Baxter has been known to release shit by their own admission now in fact of course they've gone unpunished They've been known to release live viruses in things like flu vaccine. And they have all kinds of weird stuff going on, another report here... Here's what gets me about these reports out of this area.

49:19 It's a particularly virulent version of H1N1. Wait a minute... So that means it would have mutated, then we all should be freaking out! That means it is a different virus! Yeah and that means... Well what is it then? Has anybody isolated this thing and put in under a microscope? What's new? The World Health Organization, according to AP said Tuesday it was valid to assume that most of the cases of influenza reportedly sweeping through the Ukraine were caused by the pandemic AH1N1 virus. So they're actually saying it is a novel H1N1 virus. You notice the word is in there! Assume! Let me just see that again

50:02 Yeah, it is valid to assume. You're right. Assume! You know what that means? Yeah bullshit. Well you assume... Laboratory testing in Ukraine has confirmed pandemic H1N1 influenza virus and samples taken from patients in two of the most affected regions so that means nothing And here it is The highest rate of acute respiratory illness and influenza-like illness Oh man, words really do matter They really do matter and people just read right over it right over it don't care at all about what's being shoved in front of you meanwhile leaked documents from IBM yes the IBM you're thinking of, this is from France. This is from the services and global procurement pan IOT Europe

50:56 At IBM, an official interdepartmental document was distributed to upper-level management in 2006 saying that a planned pandemic has 100% chance of occurring within the next five years. The document, yes the document you can read this online it's everywhere. The document also describes quarantines and operational procedures to be taken upon the official announcements of the pandemic by the World Health Organization. The foreknowledge of such an event could not exist of course unless the pandemic was a planned event So this is what some are calling the smoking gun of this being a, you know add that with the patent on the genetically engineered swine flu virus. Two years before swine flu? And this was also in 2006 when IBM released this inter-office document

51:52 As evidenced by the document, IBM's primary concerns are focused on maintaining their workforce even under an official quarantine and the continuation of sales and services to their clients. Because what a lot people don't know is that IBM's biggest business is actually a service business not selling your ThinkPad. That means they have to go out into the field a lot and give high fives! Our strategy is simple we go out and we high five people and give them swine flu So the government, the CDC has put together an advisory committee on immunization practices. Do you think by the way that maybe this is all been known by the Obamas from the beginning and that's why they do that fist bump thing because it's like safer? I like that! That's an awesome theory Ladies and gentlemen from now on you are no longer allowed to shake hands You will fist each other

52:51 Fisting, it's safe for everybody. Hey kids don't shake fist! I can hear the commercials already it's going to be awesome. So they put together this advisory committee on immunization practices concerning prevention of The plague, which by the way the plague does exist John. Oh yeah! The actual plague and there's still like a couple thousand people a year in the United States who die from the plague Yeah it just is more if it's diagnosed correctly immediately it takes you know a shot of antibiotics takes it out So they put this panel together and on this panel the leader or chairperson is Professor Marie McCormick

53:36 And so she's in charge of making sure that all the vaccines are safe and essentially it's a marketing panel who is going to be sitting out there saying, it's safe go ahead don't worry about it. You know... Don't look over here! Nothing to see here! Oohh look at that! Which will of course will be varied with... So I look up her history See who this woman is and by the way, I encourage you whenever you see a press release Just go ahead look up a bio of some of these people This woman Marie McCormick chaired the immunization safety review committee of The Institute of Medicine which produced a seminal report

54:20 What does seminal mean, John? That means the most recent and definitive. The one that you look to get the actual straight dope. So the seminal report... The truth I guess we could say that emphasized which of course is already a weakening word there the lack of evidence for a link between autism and the MMR vaccine so she's a shill she's not independent She's already predisposed to thinking that there is no link between vaccinations and certain neurological diseases. Yeah, well it's what the report indicated Right but she's on this panel that supposed to be making sure everything safe Well she probably got on the payroll of a drug company let's face it It's questionable But you know the problem is only so many people in the world do this kind of work And they're gonna be cross referenced all over the place So you never really know

55:19 That's true. Meanwhile my... You know it's not as though you can find somebody that has no links to any drug companies that happen to be working in the drug industry, it's just not gonna happen I was shopping for my favorite breakfast cereal Cocoa Krispies Did you get a fit? We blog this by the way The now helps support your child's immunity They've got this huge immunity banner on Cocoa Krispies. I have to go get a box of these because this is a museum item! It's a collector's, yeah it is a museum item you're right You're absolutely right This is something we need... If there's everybody out there you should do yourself a favor and just for the... Get some Cocoa Krispies Get a box throw the Cocoa Krispies out because they are going to get bugs in them No no they'll last forever nothing will happen The Cocoa Krispies never die They are rocks! You can keep those around forever Don't open the box it will be worth more

56:12 So, that's it. Technically you're right but I just have my doubts that the thing would hold up and maybe... So anyway for those of you who haven't seen it and links to everything we talk about is in the show notes at noagendershow.com Literally Cocoa Krispies has a huge yellow banner with blue words across the bottom that says basically now with immunity! It helps support your child's immunity. So what they've done is I guess they've sprayed like some vitamin A, C and E onto this crap. Is that what you discovered? Yes! Yeah so that how it helps your immunity... They can't lie you know and vitamin A,C and E are known to fight actually they should put some D in there if they really want to be right

56:54 And the way they market that is now health support your child's immunity. Yeah, I guess if you ate 50 boxes of this stuff you might have the equivalent of one pill! And meanwhile the FDA is out there sending nasty letters and fining and threatening to arrest people who have like some herbal medicine that might help you against H1N1, stuff like I don't know vitamin D3. They're telling people to take down websites or go to jail. Then Cocoa Krispies is just coming out with this now so help support your child's immunity! It's so... We love the corruption. Yeah, we love it and you know and we love it And we love bringing it to you I have a question John last week I tried something new with our donations I really got in people's face. I hit him in the mouth did it make a difference? No

57:46 What it did actually is we got, we're going to go over the donors this week. We got some bigger donations but we didn't get more donations by any means in fact I think it was probably less even though the total was good but it wasn't anything fantastic. So maybe I shouldn't do that anymore then? Well you and your experiments are dubious Well, you try it this week. You go ahead I will Ladies and gentlemen go to the no agenda show comm or DeVore org slash na and donate we please Please please donate we will will make the show better How's that? Very good

58:28 Okay, so let's do a speed. Let's give some run down the list. Yeah please Sterling Ellsworth he's in for the seventh time with 77 77 fantastic well that's it it was nice knowing you pretty much Thank you. I don't know you know eight is a lucky number in China You can always go for seven hundred and seventy-seven times either way I really appreciate that That's been a fun donation to watch. I don't know what he's going to doing for an encore But it's pretty funny. I like it so anyway, he's in Santa Barbara and he said It's funny cuz he kind of laid back for a while because he had this seventh when he puts any sense and little note on the PayPal thing says number seven

59:11 Yeah, like that's it just like we weren't counting dude. And then we have a guy Eric Pross PRAS erik K where do you think he might spell that again? PRAS PRS I don't know He could be from Scandinavia Mars sin Marcin which is Denmark Netherlands Oh Marsen double-a I'm sorry your pronunciation kind of threw me off oh yes I'm sorry how did what's his name? Marsen, Marsen, Marsen. It sounds like it's from Scotland yeah it's kind of the same thing. He gave us 50

59:48 uh... then we have a us of course our producer are exactly produces got rodriguez who's actually a night from santa ana give us two fifty and that he had to get asked for favor which we'd we complied since the whatever the nights tell us we do yet we are completely at uh... at the beckon call in service of our nights and in this case Scott asked us to call his friend Jose on his birthday. And didn't Jose, wasn't there something else he asked us to do? Wasn't it another thing that I saw coming on email? No not really Yeah there was. No. You're just ignoring it? There was something John

1:00:24 Well, I'll go back and look at the notes in a second. Oh we just finished them And now we have another or we have a hand did we do to John Purseel in Hamburg? No, I guess not. Oh, thanks ER s iel It sounds like a Dutch name to me. Mmm could be Jan Could be P e r si el per seal. I don't know anyways in Hamburg gave us 5555 Which is kind of interesting And then Robert Christie in Chatham. That must be the UK? The UK, and he gave us 50 which is about $7.50 in pounds

1:01:08 And by the way, the Canadian money is... they keep changing it constantly. What do you mean? Well I mean they keep bringing out new bills and can't find old bills. I dug up my old Canadian money an brought it to him because he said don't spend that money eh! It's worth more than what its worth spending for. Anyway $53 from David Austin in Irvine and he wanted us make sure to note that 53 is Einstein prime number It's also the atomic number for iodine, which I think is nice. James Gutz in Padden City, West Virginia... Didn't we do Gutz last week? I don't think so. It's okay. 5150, which is you know... Yeah, I think you actually did. We get 5150 a lot

1:01:59 You know, that's the free holo books guy. That's who that is Oh yeah he you know he so he said he would put together a holo book for me And he says so what about me? Don't I get a hollow book well So he uh yeah in fact i'll have him make two He said what book do you want it to be I said atlas shrugged of course So he went out and he says man the hardcover of Atlas shrugged they want like 700 bucks for it I said dude I'm sure I can find a hard cover cheaper somewhere for ya But we'll see if we can find them and then let him do them Jeremy Peck out of Melbourne Australia. I just saw that movie Australia with Nicole Kidman have you ever seen a movie? Oh my god it's fun, it's phenomenal and I'm not a big Kidman fan and this is the one with Hugh Jackman yeah oh my god I saw in HD on HBO fantastic movie

1:02:49 I, the reviews came in on it and I thought they were decidedly mixed so I never went out of my way to see. Because there were no huge explosions and she didn't flash her tits! I mean come on that's what movies make money have to show you know this was a beautiful story actual bit of history about the Japanese attacking Darwin which not a lot of people know but the Japanese did attack Darwin. Darwin Australia not Charles Darwin poor bastard and It was just it was a really beautiful story And if you've never been to Australia even if you have which I have it's as you see this country, and you just like oh my god Particularly in HD. It's just an outstanding Story also about the aboriginal children who were taken away So the mixed race known as the creamies so that was typically white father Aboriginal or black mother

1:03:48 Because all blacks in Australia at the time were aboriginal. Yeah, they would take the kids away? Yeah they'd take them away and give them to the church. The church would take care of him Do you know that wasn't abolished until 1973? Wow! Yeah That went on for quite a while Anyway It was good movie I'm sorry That's a movie recommendation from Andrew Curry Andrew?! What is that!? Well...I was reading Andrew Perenchuk And then I was, I mixed and said Andrew because I'm reading. I'm looking at the word. So uh, Andrew Curry, sorry Adam Peranchuk no i'm sorry, Andrew Peranchuk and he's in by the way he has a uh email address...I'm not going to say his address but it is an interesting one um he's from etobicoke

1:04:45 Don't tell me that's another dutch place you're that you're pretty good. No, it's an ontario canada as a matter of fact And I would like somebody to get me uh some information on why this town was named this Anyway andrew perenchuk That's 50 and onward to um Michael i don't know i think people just did There's another one in Milton Canada, we're getting good comments from Canada. I think it's actually a new practice of our listeners slash producers who are just making up last names to see if you can like bumble through them long enough. It's going to be like Mike Hunt from Alberta, Canada. Mike Hunt. Seymour Butz from... Ben Dover. Maya as in Gaia, Maya Tico.

1:05:38 I guess. Another 50 bucks, I bet? 5171 which is probably something and then we have Leonard Rinkema. That's the Dutch name. Spell that for me. R-E-N-K-E-M-A. Rinkema. Rinkema! Rinkema. Leonard Rinkema. who gave us two hundred and twenty two dollars in twenty two cents here try this it then another record brother uh... that we have is our guard are nights in waiting at tristan lennon we've had to him he's just contributing generally mike westerfield of course

1:06:22 And then we have John Snyder who has a palindrome of $50.05 and he's in Chicago, so he knows the ropes. That's it? Yeah that's your scheme So try your scheme again John I really liked it Would you like a little bit of music or... Oh man! We need the money so bad can you please help us out By the way we do want to thank everybody who has even given us lesser amounts and there is plenty of that oh and there goes the phone I am now the donations are coming in as we speak John it's phenomenal how well it works. They're dialing them in right then and there gotta love it Yeah, no half an hour is much closer all right Thank you everybody thank you very much for your donations We desperately want to move to a third day a week We are certainly not on track to do that at this moment

1:07:19 But if everyone of our listeners gave us five dollars a year, it could happen tomorrow. That's the numbers that is the absolute truth in the numbers. It's that simple and you know these guys I can keep writing in like the complaining Yeah, if all that energy spent typing your complaint letters just click on the PayPal button at no agenda show calm or at Dvorak org slash na and We'll do what you want or become a knight And we'll do completely what you want You know, if you're a knight you truly are in charge of the show. Wouldn't you agree John? Absolutely! I mean we do all kinds of stuff to favors for our friends by the way... I have another donation just came in or kind of came into Jeremy Peck

1:08:08 and I have to read the reason i'm gonna bring it throw into this week is because its $50 but he's got a comment that need to read. He said by the way in, oh hes again Melbourne okay so uh... Melbourne anyway Peck has this uh... I decided donate because at work over heard someone recommending Atlas Shrugged yay! So there's our Atlas shrugged mention where's the bell? To someone else I was going to tell him that the book sucks Then instead I thought it would be more fun for them to suffer. Fun's for Ayn Rand haters only! If you really want to know what is going on and how we can get out of this horrible mess that has been created, then have a read of this book written by Ayn Rand. Yeah and you'll have no further along You will feel much better...you will

1:09:03 No agenda show. Somebody sent me in a really long thing, but I can't well we'll do it next week But that would require you to stay awake long enough to read it so yeah So anyway the idea thanks everybody and of course this takes up a lot of time and one of these days will have to move the Well, but it's a very simple It's very simple formula if every one of our listeners slash producers gave us $5 They would all fall under the $50 level We wouldn't have to mention them all Yeah, it's real. I like people that give us a couple hundred dollars. I think that say they're done They feel the need to do what they get the job title in the case of Rodriguez and The guys whose name I can't pronounce and Well income ah And they could you know it looks good on the bio so there is uh? There's another

1:10:00 There's another new, we've had all kinds of interesting illnesses that the pharmaceutical industry is making drugs for. There's a new one that I can't wait to try You mean like restless leg syndrome? Well there's that, there's Viagra of course, yeah a number of interesting irritable bowel disease, which by the way people actually do suffer from irritated bowels but to come up with this generalization of irritable bowel disease is kind of bullshit. But the FDA has identified female sexual dysfunction which is FSD better known as restless vagina syndrome and there's a drug for it John Lexaphem

1:10:53 Lexaphem? Yes, because you're not alone. You're among the 43... Not alone! You gotta see the website. You are among the 43% of American women who experience some degree of impaired sexual function and this is according to The Journal Of American Medical Association, The AMA Who's working with the FDA have an evolving definition of FSD. Oh yeah, you have to have an evolving definition Yeah not horny So what happens if a guy and girl get together And she is popping Lexapem and he is popping Viagra I mean do you just stick it in and the shit explodes? What's going to happen

1:11:36 I don't know. Anyway, the lex... Somebody's gonna have a heart attack that's what i can tell you. The uh Lexa... They can't be good! The Lexafem pills contain horny goat weed extract What? Horny goat weed extract Is that true? Yeah that's what it says on their website In order to quote feel like a real woman today You won't ever feel unhappy again with Lexafem in your arsenal That's even better Want to do the commercial for that? I will do the voiceover for that commercial Gratis, so this came in if you look it up on the on the Google

1:12:22 And by the way, we do have a lecture coming up next week for you from Ukraine. I got a nasty note from somebody saying it's not THE Ukraine, it is Ukraine! That is correct and I stand corrected. It is Ukraine, you're right. And actually caught myself doing but tried to cover it up But its not an unusual usage by the way because there are other countries like The Czech Republic and the United States of America which throw the the in because it just sounds better because you sound like an idiot if you say where are you going I'm going to United States of America You know you need to put the the in there and so people are used to saying The Ukraine. And it's, I'm going to Ukraine! I apologize. It sounded dumb. What can i say? But the Ukrainians apparently don't like... by the way Edmonton Ontario where I was, what am I saying, Edmonton Alberta where I was, Edmonton Andrew where I was is loaded with Ukrainians

1:13:22 And I went to a Ukrainian restaurant and had an outstanding meal. Hey, you didn't high-five anybody did ya? No, you do not high five in Canada anymore Good! I was looking for someone to fist All right, I got a couple of clips. I want to play wait wait wait Let me get back to the point morning goat weed is all over the net if you look it up horny Goatweed and its keeps cropping up as an aphrodisiac Yeah Well what do you think the restless vagina syndrome needs? It needs a little pumping up baby Are you suffering from restless vagina syndrome you lying gas stations with lexaphem in your arsenal You'll never suffer again

1:14:06 Oh, this is one of those phony things like that's male enhancement things. It's just a bunch of herbs thrown together This is not from a drug company look at Lex FM. Look at Lex FM lexi FEM calm Lexaphem, there it is. This is... look here it is the Journal of American Medical Association reported 43... I didn't get anything! I got Comcast. Lexaphem dot com L-E-X-A-F-E-M L-E-X-A-F-E-M Lexaphem Testimonials Ordered the lexaphem and used for the first time... Oh yeah this is not by a drug company this looks like a porn site But look at what they're claiming Look at all these

1:14:48 FDA, here common questions I think it is. This is like one of those, this is like the male enhancement crap! This is just the beginning John this is just the beginning The AMA and FDA are getting into this so right now its got the horny goat weed Wow increased desire improved energy levels more intense orgasms Yeah where's the contraindications if this any sort drug at all? It's not even on here This is bull. This is just a crappy herbal nothing It's the start Look, I've got the FSD I want to see this journal of American Medical Association Good So go to... John after the show was uploaded Go to noagendashow.com and you can see The American Medical Association article about FSD

1:15:54 These guys are just starting out. This is how it works, they start out and they model the stuff out with some crackpot remedy and then they come up with a real drug like Viagra we need viagra? How about getting a hotter wife or girlfriend that's the problem look at the commercial They're all ugly and unhappy women No wonder these guys can't get enough I wanna have sex All right, Al Gore was on Gitmo Nation East television on Tuesday with one of my favorite journalists Jeremy Paxman who I know you're familiar with John. The guy's fantastic Yes, I actually do admire him Yeah he's... because he gets in people's face He kind of has our formula and he had former Vice President Al Gore who by the way is a ...I think it just released his new book hasn't it?

1:16:47 Oh, what a coincidence! Really? And do you think it coincides at all with the Copenhagen conference which is coming up the beginning of December? Hmm. So Jeremy gets in his face and I don't have video only have the audio and one actually one our producers Robert Wright from Gitman Nation East actually pulled the clips for us which i highly appreciate he gave me a rundown with the clips and uh... because he just couldn't believe some of the stuff that was uh... what's happening in force important to spread the media assassination worldwide through our own for a little show here we will have a link to the actual video connect as i have it right in front of me know senator you know

1:17:30 So there's no real setup for the first clip other than this is really Gore's, thank you John. This is really Gore's intent and his mission right now on what he's telling people we need to do to save the world. We're predisposed to short-term thinking because our ancestors survive challenges that we are prone to immediately respond to and yet, we also have the capability to form values based on self-interest and our duty to the next generation. And then stick to them! The great cathedrals were built by multiple generations staying on task for many decades We now have to build a kind of metaphorical green cathedral

1:18:17 there it is the metaphorical green cathedral wow yeah and and actually his book uh... what a crock non-fiction wait to read this book in you can you know i will if i can get through uh... atlanta can't really do avoid this book now on the reader some that's going to be u unlimited let me tell you what uh... was in this book i think he is like Yes, of course it's crap. But we can't slam it if we don't read it. Oh yeah! I need some money to buy the book. I could just be bigoted. Okay in his latest book Our Choice A Plan To Solve The Climate Crisis the man who won the Nobel Prize in 2007 for touring slideshow on disappearing polar ice and other consequences of climate change concludes simply laying out the facts won't work so what he has done is a training program

1:19:11 He has a Christian-based training program, a Muslim training program and a Jewish program and also a Hindu program that he's still working on. What about the Rosicrucians? How do they leave them out? Well no service for them. He's trained 200 Christian ministers and lay leaders in Nashville to help people teach I guess how to set up the Green Religion and the Green Religion Cathedral So this is the new thing. He's trying to play it through, uh... through the religious which is interesting so then of course Jeremy Paxman lays into a Gore's own behavior of you know like hey dude are you smoking your own dope here because You know you've got How big is that house? 25 thousand square feet completely lit up all the time he's got 18 monitors on 24 hours a day hooked up to his Mac

1:20:02 You suggest that tackling this problem will involve huge changes in human behaviour. How have you changed your behaviour? Well, first of all I we have changed out our light bulbs and windows and dug geothermal... I know i love that. We've dug holes! ...wells and covered our roof with solar panels and switched to hybrid cars and I'm walking the walk That is so much bullshit because I've seen him in his posse parked outside uh an office on Sand Hill Road He's got a nice UV he doesn't it's not a hybrid

1:20:42 He's an SUV and he has two troopers, two state trooper cars there. That's crap! Yeah he is a liar. Not just talking the talk... I'm just bullshitting the town You remember the embarrassment in 2006 when it was shown that you had a combined natural gas and electricity bill of $30,000 a year? What is it now? Well, our natural gas bill has been virtually completely eliminated. Because now we're just burning little children! All of our electricity then and now comes from renewable sources so as I say and I've long since committed to this path and am proud to have done so... Yeah but what is your bill now Al? That was the question So of course he doesn't answer that

1:21:31 Then of course the all-important question, hey you know... Paxman could have said well okay so then what is your bill now? Yeah well but Paxman he's still a shill even though we like him. Then Paxman asked the question that is on everyone's mind, hey man you're promoting all this stuff but aren't you benefiting from it at the same time? There is one other element in your advocacy here that people are slightly concerned about Mr. Gore It is this...it is that you advocate new technologies to deal with this problem of carbon emissions while at the same time investing in those technologies yourself. The suggestion is there are really mixed motives here

1:22:15 Well, I've advocated these policies for more than 30 years. Do you recall that actually John? I thought it was all about him and Tipper were all about labeling rap CDs. I don't recall him talking about green stuff 20-30 years ago do you? He had an early book out around the time that he was running for president when he was pushed aside by Clinton and became vice-president around 1990. That would be ten years ago, no it would have been 20 years ago. I'm sorry you're right. So he's running from... He said 30 years ago which to put it back in 1980, I don't know, I mean its possible

1:22:58 But it hasn't been like center stage. It's kind of what he's implying I mean, he's mostly been environmentalism to you only got into this carbon kick Recently when a lot of people believe it's possibly You know somewhere along the line He get you know when he became bitter over losing the presidency and he's decided just exploit the system He's essentially modeling this after certain cap-and-trade thing that was done with SO2 some time ago, I think in the 70s. What's SO2? Sulfur dioxide this is during the last great scare that was going to ruin everything. Oh it was sulfur dioxide! That was gonna kill us all. How did we solve that?! I'm so happy we fixed that what do we do exactly to stop sulfur? We didn't really do much that we weren't doing already

1:23:46 But they did a cap-and-trade thing to incentivize people to scrub the sulfur dioxide out of it. Of course, we didn't have the really good high trading systems that wasn't simple to put up like a new NASDAQ No no now it's a lot different Now its easy yeah you just throw together a stock exchange And thats essentially what was to get people to put scrubbers on their damn smokestacks which is not a big deal and takes all the sulfur dioxide out and then actually can probably process that and make sulfuric acid out if I think...I don't know what they did with it it or neutralize it I suppose. But anyway, whatever the case was that did incentivized people to scrub the gases coming out of the stacks and that was the end of sulfur dioxide problem and so we're good thing but you can't do that with CO2, you can't scrub it now you can get it out and you know... We could do our own version of cap-and-trade whereas you shut up for 10 minutes and I get to breathe out

1:24:38 That would work. And I pay you make that a market yeah, and I think a lot of people give us a lot of money for that Yeah if we shut up yeah The other thing of course gore as you have another clip? Yeah, I got one more okay now We have to mention Gore's kind of promoting vegetarian. That's my last clip obviously so if you just give me one second I'll finish up with them with its mixed motives these policies for more than 30 years are and while the majority of my business activity in the last nine years since I left public service has not been in that area, Of course I invest in ways that are consistent with my values and beliefs. Were I not to, I would be criticized as a hypocrite. I'm proud to do so and I encourage everyone to do the same. Slick. Thank you very much. Very very slick. Okay here's his vegetarianism question Have you become a vegetarian?

1:25:32 No, I have not. Although for health reasons along with climate reasons have reduced the amount of meat in my diet and looking at the guy you know I don't think he's reduced his intake of meat. It looks like he ate himself! He is huge, absolutely huge. You know what? He eats at Umbria all the time which is right down the street from... He does?! Yeah, I think either note that owner was a school buddy or something. Yeah you'll see his non-hybrid SUV sitting out there all the time with patrol car When he's there next I'm gonna walk in and see what he's eating

1:26:12 I bet you it's, and that is an Italian place. An outstanding Italian restaurant. I bet you its not going to just pure fruits on the place. I've reduced the amount of meat in my diet And as we all know its much healthier To have more vegetables than fruits instead of meat And actually the growing meat intensity Of diets around the world Is a legitimate issue where climate is concerned. We should become partners shouldn't we? We should all become vegetarians if we're concerned about climate. Well, I don't plan to. I respect those who do but it's a personal choice and will remain so.

1:26:52 Well, there's a vegetarian agenda behind all this because the cow is farting. Yes So please do keep your eye on COP15 that's the United Nations Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen which is coming up on December 7th through December 18th This is where many are claiming our sovereignty will be signed away by President Obama as uh... as we basically sign up for this huge deal where uh... will be giving away trillions eventually trillions but initially billions of dollars to developing nations so that they can actually it's i a l s and you would believe the earth pollute the earth yeah that's exactly it meanwhile gore refuses to show up to debate these issues once again has the wall street journal reports

1:27:49 The Wall Street Journal's economics conference in Santa Barbara. He was scheduled to appear with our buddy, our newly minted Gitmo nation resident Václav Klaus the president of the Czech Republic who just completed the Lisbon Treaty deal but of course he is a noted skeptic on global warming Mr. Gore changed his schedule and he couldn't appear unfortunately. Oh Gee, because he's got so many things to do He's so incredibly busy. He has to polish these Nobel Prize Award It's getting tarnished. He's polishing his knob oxidized Did I was listening? So a lot of people send me this clip just To show you how it works how the debate moves into the

1:28:38 into the popular culture. And you know what, screw it I'm not gonna do that. You know what? I want to ask people out there to do us a favor We have a lot of lit, we have litany on this show of certain things that we've kind of over the...over time kinda agreed to agree upon. You know there's things that we don't agree upon like flying saucers and grays and things like that but there are certain things we do agree upon And I would like somebody to put down a litany of the kinda base Beliefs of the show and the listeners and so far as you know essentially most of it has to do with Why are being full of crap in the government being corrupt? Why would you want that John I wanted because I'm working on. I would like to work on a book a proclamation So people can at least have a clue about what we're about We're not sure that we can deconstruct it ourselves, I think there's probably a couple listeners out There can give us a list of what I did this just see a list of

1:29:35 I got it for you. You don't need it, John! You don't need it. It's very simple. It is very very simple. Screw the government global warming is bullshit now pass me the steak and good wine that's our proclamation right there So anyway, I'd like to see a list personally so what you think we're saying because I also want to see what people are hearing because I'm not sure. I mean now I'm interested in that yeah What were you? I want to thank Universal and has been and boss bunch of guys who were in the no agenda chat room early this morning at noagendachat.com Hillary Clinton

1:30:19 Made it a quite an extraordinary statement in Pakistan in what is it low head lower? I think it's lower Lahore, I'm sorry lahore lahore pakistan or in lahore lahore Pakistan and ever. I wanted to get a soundbite of it but apparently she only said it behind closed doors to some reporters who there were no cameras or recording devices. Is this the one where she said they're not doing enough about Al Qaeda? No, it's a little bit better than that and what was interesting is one of the guys in the chat room actually found it on Hillary Clinton's own website at state dot gov slash secretary uh... so here she is speaking at the round table with business leaders I can't do the Hillary voice

1:31:11 But here's the quote that is most interesting. So at some point when you ask for partnership, you have to ask what the equity state is that Pakistan itself was looking to make because it's difficult to go to our taxpayers and say we consider Pakistan as strategic partner We consider it long-term friend and ally. You supported since its inception in 1947. We want to continue to do so and have our taxpayers are members of Congress say well We want to help those who help themselves and we tax everything that moves and doesn't move. And that's not what we see happening in Pakistan." So the way I read this is she's actually saying, hey in the States, we tax everything that moves and doesn't move

1:31:59 But they're not doing that in Pakistan, so that's bad. Yeah but it's bad that they're doing in here That's an admission that we're taxed and I'm taxing everything We do retax it well That's what we've been saying all along this is one of the most you know The United States also likes to go along with well You know where'd you have lower taxes than any other country especially those crazy Europeans? They tax everything And yeah they do text everything but they tax it differently we are our taxes are mostly sneak taxes or done on the side And it turns out we got about 70% tax rate here. I'm sorry, when you get in an airplane your tax for this year... The number of taxes go to stay in a hotel room! Holy crap the taxes are there's state taxes, city taxes, the broom taxes, bed sheet taxes, water taxes There is porn tax, there are taxes on everything It's an outrage I tell ya

1:32:54 And then finally from me, the Science Museum in the United Kingdom is quite a respectable museum. John I'm sure you've been there? Yep and apparently now they've gone green They have not only gone green they have gone climate change and they've got the science behind it, you can be a part of Prove It now courtesy of the Science Museum.org.uk prove it that climate change exists and is man-made And you can actually participate by saying or you can agree to the following statement I've seen the evidence! And I want the government to prove their serious about climate change By negotiating a strong effective fair deal at Copenhagen

1:33:36 and then you could either hit... So wait, so what you're telling me is the museum has become instead of being a museum to educate people but it's become an advocacy group. Correct And even the Prove It logo is green. And they have a little badge, all the evidence you need to believe in climate change. How do these creeps infiltrate organizations? Because there's some creep that has infiltrated an organization and changed the museum from being just a simple... A fucking museum! Yeah we're just cool stuff to look at into it into an entire climate change organization but here's the kicker so you can either click on count me in or count me out

1:34:15 And so you go to a form where you can fill in your name and your email address. It says here, To be counted in just tell us who you are we'll pass the results on to the government to let them know where you stand! Good guys! Could I recommend that you not do that? Interesting to note that so far 1825 people have said count me in I agree with the evidence 6428 have said count me out. I don't agree with it oops yeah That's kind of funny. I like that That's cool, but man was like just give us your email address and even if you don't agree We'll let the government know Don't worry and nothing to worry about nothing at all to worry about

1:35:08 And I might as well add this that there's a lot of good UK news. Of course the UK is a beta test for what's coming in the United States, so it's good to look at it The police have now created a database...of course they create databases every minute over there. That way they can lose them on the subway Well here's yeah and oops! I lost the memory stick uh... this'll be to log domestic extremists and this is a great but this is a new word as the new phrase domestic extremist so uh... the guardian has revealed that there's now any anew police unit to get my nation you'd call the national public order intelligence unit or all for you

1:36:02 and it will be running a central database which lists thousands of so-called domestic extremists. It will track vehicles associated with protesters through their nationwide system of automatic number plate recognition cameras, better known as ANPR Police surveillance units known as Forward Intelligence Teams, FIT and evidence gatherers will record footage and take photographs of campaigners as they enter and leave openly advertised public meetings. So if you basically go and protest which is a basic right even in the UK it's still a right as long as you get a license then you can protest They're going to write you up

1:36:48 They'll have spotter cards so they can identify faces of targeted individuals. I mean this is getting pretty nasty Yeah, well hey welcome to Guy Fawkes Day Yes And over here in the United States and John this is really important for you and I The Philadelphia office of the FBI has instructed tattoo shops To keep an eye on their customers and they've handed out a little list, and there's a copy of this list in the show notes at noagendashow.com And you should call the FBI if you have customers who come into your tattoo shop who A provide identification that is inconsistent or suspect or demands identity privacy B insists on paying with cash

1:37:43 Gee, I never heard of such a thing at a tattoo shop. It is my favorite. C. Significantly alters appearance from visit to visit such as shaving beard changing hair color or style of dress etc Half the people that go into tattoo parlors do that. Here's my favorite If you have customers who come in who have missing hand or fingers chemical burns strange odours or bright colored stains on clothing You should report them. Well, they're looking for meth guys They're looking for Rahm Emanuel is either looking for If someone makes racist or extreme religious statements coupled with comments that are violent or appear to condone violence, Or make suspicious comments regarding anti-US radical theology vague or cryptic warnings that suggest or appear to endorse the use of violence in support of a cause.

1:38:36 If they make repeated returns with multiple individuals requesting identical tattoos, if their request at tattoo and state intent is to target specific group or individual or inquire about unusual methods of tattooing or placement of tattoos which could allow the concealment of extremist symbols. This is what your FBI is doing. Sending out memos to tattoo parlors, I'm sure that's doing a lot of good can you imagine these tattoo parlor probably post them and laugh at them? Well that's exactly what happened posted and we're laughing. Does anyone have it, is that a copy or just a run down? No its an actual scan

1:39:20 That's cool FBI Federal Bureau of Investigation. It'd be cool to have an original of that thing we could probably get it it says the Bureau of Justice Assistance and Philadelphia Division Of The FBI yeah, it's in the show notes at noagendershow.com well essentially what it does unfortunately I think the FBI makes a mistake here is that deconstructs? exact BIs own policies insofar as what they look for regarding suspicious people. Yes! So this is probably not really... This is like, you know here's our memo this what we're looking for. I don't think this was a smart idea they should keep it to themselves

1:40:00 And so then finally just a personal experience actually from my daughter who is back in the UK. She'll be coming back out over to Gitmo Nation West in January, she was on the train this is just to show you how bad it's getting over there she was on the train and she'd forgotten her purse or wallet and she did have with her mother's ATM card Which you know she bought her ticket with and she bought a young person's ticket because she's under 21 or whatever Whatever the age is, but she didn't have her her ID And so the conductor comes by and he says hey kid show me how old you are Show me some ID. She's like well I'm sorry. You know what? I don't own my wallet with me So you just have to take me on my word Well, I can't believe you have to pay eight pound fine

1:40:49 And she's like, uh okay and she hands her mother's ATM card which has the same last name. And he says well is this your name? No it's my mom's card. Well that's not your card! I'll have to destroy the card!! What this is a train conductor I'll have to take confiscated and destroy the card And so you know these guys have like a quasi uniform on and she's like getting upset You know it's like well hold on a second you can't do that, and the guys like no. I'm gonna have to destroy the card unless you can pay in cash But I had the pin number everything nope

1:41:25 to destroy the card and finally some really nice lady next door said you know she stood up I can't listen this crap anymore and she paid eight pounds cash which is a beautiful thing to do but this is what happens, you get into this Gitmo vibe dude I wish I was there. I would have decked this motherfucker yeah you probably be in Gitmo literally so people out there should read his two books that are interesting because it kind of discusses this sort of thing One is the classic life and death in Shanghai, which I think was banned by the communist regime.

1:42:02 But Life and Death in Shanghai, I can get you the author's name. And the other one is It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis a classic that actually took Sinclair Lewis from being a favorite of the intelligentsia to being more or less disliked because he was making... He created a world where this sort began so these two books in clear louis's it can happen here and life-and-death in shanghai uh... which was got a females name i can't think of that you go get the book and read it off later focus on what i'm gonna go read it can happen here because your mention that before they should be that i will also pick up a copy of our choice plan to solve the climate crisis by al gore national report back so that you don't have to read it sounds unfair

1:42:51 And most of this, by the way it comes from these very petty people like this conductor. These people who are given a little authority they should have never been given ever because they haven't got the brain power to think for themselves and they abuse the authority and that's pretty much the theme and message of It Can Happen Here AND Life & Death in Shanghai. And of course Al Gore's book has a whole different theme Yeah well it is an abuse of power too if you think about So we'll be back here again on Sunday, the Church of No Agenda at 9 o'clock at Monation West time. Coming to you from the Minimum Security Containment Cell which houses the Crackpot Command Center I'm Adam Curry And don't forget dvorak.org slash NA and noagendashow dot com to help us out with some donations and i am here in Northern Silicon Valley where it looks like it will be raining in the next day or two. I'm John C Dvorak We'll be back again on Sunday right here On NO AGENDA

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