Episode 143 · Thursday, 29 October 2009

Obama Sells Out To China

A quiet delegation of missile technology authority to China and the exposure of CIA ties to the Afghan opium trade signal a massive shift in global accountability.

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President Barack Obama signed a memorandum delegating his authority to certify missile technology exports to China to Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke. This executive move bypasses a 1999 law requiring the President to personally notify Congress fifteen days before such transfers. Critics point to Locke’s history as a lobbyist and the potential for sensitive military technology to reach the People's Republic of China under this new streamlined process.

In Afghanistan, the New York Times reports that Ahmed Wali Karzai, brother of President Hamid Karzai, has been on the CIA payroll for years despite allegations of his involvement in the opium trade. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs refused to clarify these payments during a briefing marked by a mysterious audio recording played for the press corps. Meanwhile, the San Francisco Bay Bridge remains closed indefinitely after guide wires snapped during high winds, highlighting critical infrastructure failures just months after a major retrofit. Domestic policy shifts also include the elimination of import levies on Israeli milk, which coincides with a fifty percent collapse in US dairy prices and the slaughter of American herds.

CDC data reveals that H1N1 infection levels remain below the 2003 seasonal flu peak, yet government officials like Kathleen Sebelius have shifted their terminology to the word outbreak to mirror cinematic tropes. Japanese pop star Noriko Sakai faces a massive scandal over a trace amount of stimulants, while the death of Madoff associate Jeffrey Picower in a Florida swimming pool removes a vital witness from the multi-billion dollar fraud investigation.


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CHAPTER 01 / 28 Discussion

San Francisco Bay Bridge Closure and Infrastructure Failures

The San Francisco Bay Bridge was closed indefinitely following the snapping of two guide wires during 50-mile-per-hour winds. This incident occurred only two months after the bridge was shut down for extensive repairs during Labor Day weekend. Concerns are raised regarding the management of the bridge's retrofit and the decision not to build a separate span to maintain capacity during repairs.

san francisco· bay bridge· oakland· infrastructure· department of transportation

00:01 We got your dull needles right here. Line up! Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's October 29th, 2009. Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 143. This is no agenda. Exposing CIA Afghanistan drug running weeks before the New York Times. And coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco, California. I'm Adam Curry. And the bridge is down here in Northern Silicon Valley. It's a mess. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning! Yeah, that thing really is a mess, that bridge.

00:42 It's a fiasco. Yeah, so why did they even bit? Why don't they just left left the bridge alone and build a whole new span next to it and they can have two bridges running side by side and then they can just retrofit the old Oakland cantilever side and we'd have two bridges better, you know better capacity and one could be down and the other one would be up. I mean now it's there's nothing we can't get across. think we can use that jingle a lot in weeks to come. It's really nice and quiet in the city though for those of you outside of Gitmo Nation West.

01:17 We have two pretty important bridges here the Golden Gate Bridge being one of them and the Bay Bridge Which wasn't only two months ago. They they close that was a Labor Day. They closed it off for extensive repairs So it was shut down. That's because they broke it. Well, they broke it again and Like guide why I was listening to the radio last night Because of whoo 50 mile an hour winds whoo two guide spans snapped actually hit a car but and a truck yeah but no one was hurt luckily and then these things came crashing down and they closed the bridge immediately and indefinitely I might point out well it's supposed to be fixed today well we'll see

CHAPTER 02 / 28 Discussion

Transbay Transit Center Construction and Eminent Domain Issues

Construction has begun on the Transbay Transit Center in San Francisco, a project described as a $10 billion bus terminal and future high-speed rail hub. The project involves the demolition of historic buildings under eminent domain, including the location of the podcast's recording studio. Local residents report early morning construction noise violations and technical difficulties with deep-drilling equipment reaching 250 feet underground.

transbay transit center· san francisco· eminent domain· construction· tjpa

02:00 Well, it's supposed to be, you know, now they actually have a Twitter feed, which is... they do. Of course! Bay Bridge Twitter feed. It's the outreach program. And it doesn't say anything, it just says stuff like, well, I still don't know when we're gonna open the bridge. Hey, I need a feed for this. Thanks for the tweet. So this morning at 6.15, I am jolted out of my bed by a rather large metal on concrete clanging sound And of course, you know that the crackpot command center is under threat of eminent domain removal. The government, it's the funniest thing. Yesterday the government came by to start to talk to us about doing an assessment of how much money they should give us to get out because they have to give us just compensation. And I swear to God, I swear to God, lovely lady, Jamie, she said, I'm from the government, I'm here to help.

02:57 Really that old cliche? She actually said it! I'm like, okay... So, um... So this construction is going on right across the street and I have a fantastic view and I'm actually trying to turn this into something positive for myself because it is kind of interesting to see how they're going to build the world's largest bus terminal. Right, and by the way we have to take a film crew or you know a video crew over to the bus terminal that now exists. Yeah. Seriously and film it. There's nobody there. Nobody is in this bus terminal except a few hobos. No one uses the bus. It's like a $10 billion project. It's for this trans-bay buses. For example, you take the bus into San Francisco, it drops you off in the bus terminal, and the first thing everybody does is they scoot out of the buses and they rush over to their job. There's nobody in this terminal. It's a dump.

03:53 So anyway, but they're also turning this whole area into one big shopping promenade. Oh, that's what we need. Yes, exactly. And so they're bringing down all these historic buildings and beautiful buildings, including ours here. the minimum security containment cell. So anyway, there's construction going on and you know that happens. There's a city ordinance. You cannot make construction noise before 7 a.m. or after 8 p.m. seven days a week I might add. And so I've been in touch with all the, because basically I just want to be the biggest pain in the ass so they can pay me and get me out quickly. But they're going through their government process. And so it's been happening a couple times where they'd start off at 630, 645.

04:39 And so you know I'm starting to become a squeaky wheel and this morning when at 615 I literally woke up. So I rushed to the window, threw up the sash. And the whole place is like filled with dudes. I'm like, okay, now I'm pissed off. So I have a cell phone number of the lady in charge, Mila Gonzalez, who's in charge of the TJPA project. And so I wake her up. I said, listen to this shit. So what's going on? So I'm calling the cops now. and said, oh Mr. Curry, oh sorry, I'm going to call the phone, I'm going to see what's going on, this is wrong, they shouldn't be doing this, he said yeah exactly. So I called the cops. So it's noisy enough you could get it over the cell phone? Oh easy, oh yeah, and what they're doing is they're drilling holes and it's a fascinating process to watch, they're drilling holes

05:28 With these big, you saw the pipes John, these pipes which the diameter has to be at least six or seven feet. And that's where they're going to I guess pour concrete in or whatever so you'll have the foundation pillars. Well first they gotta pound them into the ground. Well no, they're not pounding, they're drilling. And this is why I found out about this because at 630 the foreman Mike calls me and says, Mr. Curry, I got no beef with this guy, right? He's just doing his job. I'm actually getting him on my team because I'm saying, look Mike, I'm going to stop your construction. So you want to continue so just tell these guys to get me out and they will be cool with it But he told me what happened. He said well we had an emergency You know we got guys here all night monitoring the drill and now we're down 250 feet and the drill got stuck and we're about to lose the drill bit I'm like I'm talking to Bruce Willis. He's on the moon. I swear to God. He's drilling in the asteroid But this is only the first hole they've drilled and

06:27 And already the drill bits are getting caught and breaking up and then of course Officer Cliff came by and he said, well I'll go over there and check it out. Thanks Officer Cliff. So you would have been proud of me John, I was all over it. I was a real cranky get off my lawn you damn kids bastard this morning. That's perfect, that's what you have to do to get any attention. But otherwise they'd be doing it all night, they wouldn't even stop ever. It's interesting if you can kind of at least learn about the process because generally speaking I thought they would pile drive over there. No, they have a very interesting... and the drill runs all night. I mean it's literally, it's slowly turning. They've got this very interesting contraption that holds this big pipe in place.

07:16 And it pushes it down bit by bit as dirt is coming out. I mean, it's interesting to watch. And I must say, I have a great view. And normally you can't see any of this stuff. You're either too high up or at ground level it's all fenced off. So I'm literally looking right into what these guys are doing. So yeah, that is interesting, but... Now does it look like a cheap process? No, no. This looks like a very expensive process. Let me ask this rhetorical question with a city that's as broke as San Francisco. Yeah, tell me about it. How can they afford this? Dude, I'm telling you. Even Officer Cliff was surprised. He said, hey, what they doing here? Well, they're tearing everything down. Really? All these beautiful buildings?

CHAPTER 03 / 28 Discussion

Railroad Eminent Domain and The Octopus by Frank Norris

A discussion regarding the constitutional authority of railroads to exercise eminent domain references the historical power of the Southern Pacific Railroad in California. The conversation highlights Frank Norris's novel, The Octopus, which depicts the corruption of railroad institutions during that era. Comparisons are made to the current Transbay project's legal standing as a rail facility.

constitution· eminent domain· railroads· frank norris· the octopus

07:59 Yeah, what are they doing? So they're building a big bus terminal. You don't say? Who knows what it's gonna cost to rent because this bus terminal is also gonna be the train station Yeah, the high-speed well and and it's interesting because I reread the Constitution about eminent domain and I think the whole The whole could say they're gonna bring in the high-speed rail from Los Angeles. Yeah, right but the under at the the eminent domain I think it's an amendment in the Constitution and There actually is mention of the government's authority to give that power of eminent domain to railroads. So I'm thinking, you know, they probably thought, hey, this bus terminal idea ain't going to work. Why don't we just say we're going to bring in a railroad?

08:42 So we can be sure the law is on our side. Oh, that's interesting. Something like that. Something like that's going on. No, that sounds right. Yeah. You know, they gave the rail. Did you have a date on that amendment? Because that must have been during the era when Southern Pacific basically owned California. I'd have to look it up. I have it on my G-phone. The novel, The Octopus, is about all this sort of thing. The Octopus? Yeah. Oh, and it's about eminent domain? Sorry? The novel is about eminent domain? No, well it's about the railroads running the state and being a corrupt institution. Well they were of course, I mean you just have to read Atlas Shrugged to know how that works. Well if you read some real literature, Frank Norris is the octopus, you probably would get more out of it in terms of your soul. Oh, you are such a bad man. So I said it in the opening of the show, hold on a sec.

CHAPTER 04 / 28 Discussion

CIA Payments to Ahmed Wali Karzai in Afghanistan

The New York Times reported that Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, has been on the CIA payroll for several years. Karzai is also an alleged major figure in the Afghan opium trade. This report follows earlier independent coverage of Karzai's business interests and alleged criminal activities in Afghanistan and the United States.

cia· ahmed wali karzai· afghanistan· new york times· drug trade

09:37 I need to liquidate myself. Oops, I meant hydrate. The New York Times reported a very interesting story that you probably would have heard six to seven weeks ago on this very program. that the brother of afghan leader karzai is said to be paid by the cia and of course john i did quite an extensive unveiling of amit wally karzai by the way new york times makes no mention whatsoever of his afghan restaurants in california and in washington and in boston

10:16 and uh... but the new york times to go a bit further and said hey the cia has this guy on their payroll retainer it's not a retainer and that is also uh... a drug lord yet you don't say Maybe the New York Times is just listening to our show. Who actually wrote this? Dexter Filkins and Mark Mazzetti and James Risen. It was a front page of the New York Times. What I found fascinating was the White House briefing with our nasal Fred, press secretary Robert Gibbs. And I've asked a couple people, John, no one thinks he's coked up. They just think he's got a nasal problem.

CHAPTER 05 / 28 Discussion

Robert Gibbs White House Press Briefing Critique

White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs faced questioning regarding CIA payments to Ahmed Wali Karzai, ultimately referring all inquiries back to the CIA. The briefing was characterized by the press secretary's dismissive tone and the use of a mysterious audio recording played in the room stating "the president is powerful." Longtime reporter Helen Thomas is noted as one of the few remaining journalists asking substantive questions.

robert gibbs· white house· cia· press corps· helen thomas

10:56 And uh, so- You know there's a lot of people that don't recognize that as being coked up. Over time, you know over time, I can't really, a lot of, you see, you run into it a lot in broadcasting, you have certain announcers that develop that style of- That nasal type of- Well this guy here, well Gibbs is a broadcaster, he thinks he's a disc jockey. Yeah, in fact, well you'll find that a lot of these guys when I really wanted did when the end is near when their careers are over you find out they were coked up a lot of them. Well, you know what? It's particularly for doing the morning drive, you know, it's tough you got a Maybe Gibbs isn't coked up by the couple of lines, you know, it just seems coked up. Let's put it that way What was that

11:46 Am I losing you? I'm going to talk like that from now on. Okay, so let's listen to the man himself. And now I'm going to crank up the volume pretty loud because something interesting happened at the beginning of this particular White House briefing. This is the one from Wednesday where I think it might have been a ringtone And I'm going to really turn it up loud because it's hard to hear, but there's like this ominous voice going, the president has all the power. Just as he's getting on the podium. And of course, you know, the White House press corps being the suck ass suck ups that they are, are all like guffawing and laughing and Gibbs is cutting a joke. But then they hammer into him about the New York Times article.

12:33 Before we listen to that, is it possible he's using like a Nokia phone that says the voice of the person calling? Well, it's not from him. Or from somebody in the audience. Yeah, someone in the audience. Well, I think it's from someone in the audience. I'm going to turn it up really loud and you might be able to hear it. Now that I've told you what the sound is, you can probably recognize it, but it's really like an echoey voice that says, the President of the United States holds all the power, which is kind of freaky, like they're programming the press corps there. Let's listen in here. Let me just get this started. And of course, with that fantastic windup.

13:10 It won't work. It dies. Of course it died. Crap. Hold on, let me reload it. Timing. Yeah, timing. Here it comes. Good afternoon. I'm going to get slightly more organized here. Actually, it's the president is powerful. That's what it says. Did you hear it? No. It's really soft. I'll try and play one more time. Good afternoon. I'm going to get slightly more organized here.

13:56 Well, yeah, I'll put it in the I'll put the link in the show notes, but then listen to the press call Was that happening just in my head or did you all did you all hear that too Wow Wow, that's uh That was uh Interesting if inexplicable Yeah, sometimes I wonder how inexplicable that kind of shit really is. Yeah That was interesting if inexplicable? Yeah. What is wrong with that guy? Well, there's nothing really wrong except for his nose. Let's listen to the first question. With that voiceover, let's apologize for not having an equally grand introduction by which to call on the first reporter. Wow. That's... Alright, hammer into this fucker.

14:46 Question 1. So, payments to President Karzai's brother by the CIA. What can you tell us about? So, payments to President Karzai's brother by the CIA. First question, front page of the New York Times. Not an unimportant topic to discuss perhaps. What is the answer? How that, or if that is causing any consternation here in the White House. I would refer questions about that story to the CIA. Best person to ask that to or somebody at the CIA? What's your what's the reaction here to the attack in Kabul? So it's like, ask someone at the CIA. Best person to ask that question is at the CIA. What a dick. Total dick. Total. I mean, who does the CIA this is the White House. Doesn't the CIA report to the Presidente?

15:42 And not that is if this is not you know, ah, it just it's an insult to the I mean the entire press corps should just walk out. Thank you. That would be really good. I wish they would and you know what this is that this this show the Robert Gibbs show we need a jingle. It's the Robert Gibbs show in the in the afternoon. Hello everybody, I'm Robert Gibbs. It's funny. This thing is about 40 minutes. This program is 40 minutes in length and you just watch it and he dodges every question. He denies questions. He skirts around issues. It's like a comedy. I love watching it and we could just play that for 40 minutes and stop it every 30 seconds and comment on how

16:32 You're right the press corps that just a bunch of gullible losers The only person who is still real there who does bring it back from time to time is Helen who could you can barely breathe? But she's still fighting for our country asking the real questions and she gets laughed off Continuously gives a ha ha ha well Helen. I doubt the president would be involved like that Yes, chip. You're next. I mean, that's literally how it goes Yeah You do it. That's good. You should yeah, we do need a jingle. You're right It's not hard to what we should do is get the jingle and then we just you know, we take one short Gibbs Nonsense comment. Yeah, you know and just just like a long jingle short context comment is letterman's Jingles longer than the bit. Yeah, like the

CHAPTER 06 / 28 Discussion

Sarah Palin Media Perception and Political Viability

A discussion on Sarah Palin's public image contrasts her media portrayal as unintelligent with her high standing in Republican presidential preference polls. The conversation touches on her experience as a governor and her ability to communicate without a teleprompter. A comparison is made to a David Letterman segment involving Joe Pesci and the "head in a vice" scene from a mob movie.

sarah palin· media· presidential nominee· goodfellas· joe pesci

17:23 great moments in present a great speeches in presidential history over the one he's doing now courses the uh... things more fun than reading sarah palin's memoir And it's always something the latest one was happy you're ahead put in a vice Then they took a clip from it was goodfellas or casino or whatever was were were That little act the actor who play always plays a mean-spirited Italian mobster. Yeah, go ahead and talk about the little guy Joe Pesci is who you're talking about. Joe Pesci. The little guy. Yeah. But he's the little guy. He's always small. He's squeezing some guy's head and showing it. Then the one they had the other day was having your head in a basket filled with angry bees.

18:12 Meanwhile, in every single poll, Sarah Palin is like number three on the list to be the presidential nominee for the next election. I don't think she's dumb. I think the media made her dumb. I don't care what you think. Just because she's hot, uh... or really israeli she's built the you know me not not just because it's about a lot of us it's a plus but yes she's not done she has run the whole state you know the more than you can say more than you can do it for more than two years and she had to quit and whatever I mean, who's gonna put it... I mean, she has quit the job she had. I mean, no one's... anyone do... why would anyone think that she's remotely qualified? She's only worked in the... Excuse me, John, you make the mistake that President Obama is qualified. As an actor... I've never said that. When was that? When did I say that? As an actor, Sarah Palin is perfectly qualified. She's cute, she can remember her lines, and she won't bump into the furniture. She would be a perfect president. I don't think she's that good of an actress.

CHAPTER 07 / 28 Discussion

Atrazine Herbicide and Syngenta-Monsanto Partnership

Atrazine, an herbicide produced by the Swiss company Syngenta, is under scrutiny for its presence in the water supply and its biological effects on amphibians. Although banned in the European Union, it remains in use in the United States. Syngenta and Monsanto have reportedly ended legal disputes to collaborate on the distribution of corn-related agricultural products.

atrazine· syngenta· monsanto· herbicide· water supply

19:14 We use the form actor, not actress. Yeah, you and the other actors. I don't think she's that good of an actress. I think she's pretty good. I think she could do it. You know what? She wouldn't need the teleprompter. She's got him beat on that. I'm just saying. Well, while we're on the topic of actors... Yes, I see your clip, yes. Oh, well, besides that. So there's this stuff that we have to look into called atrazine. Atrazine? Yeah, Atrazine. It's an herbicide made by a company in Switzerland. It's banned in the EU. They can't even use it in the EU, let alone, I don't think, Switzerland. And why is that? Corn. Well, for one thing, it demasculinizes

20:01 frogs and it gets in the water supply and now there's some theoretical consideration that it's maybe responsible for the demasculinization of men like the ones who would insist on calling women actors. I'm too old. It's too late to have affected me. But yeah, your point is well made. There is a lot of concern about actually stuff in the drinking water that... Well, this is in the drinking water. Okay, there you go. And I don't know whether the Brita filter takes it out or not, but it's a concern. And then I decided to look up... They're not owned by... They're a public company. They're not owned by Monsanto.

20:47 You should really give me a little warning before you do that. But as soon as I start talking about chemicals, you gotta be quick on the draw. But they're in bed with him because apparently Monsanto sued them over some corn thing and then so they sued them back. and they won and then they decided well you know why are we fighting with each other let's get together and so now they've divvied up no way yeah yeah there's a bunch of press releases about this they've kind of divvied up what they're going to sell to the world corn producers uh... to prevent one thing or another and uh... so the two of them are now uh... like buddy you know it's divided we stand uh... united we whatever you know i was watching the the jim mcglare hour last night

CHAPTER 08 / 28 Discussion

Corporate Sponsorship of PBS NewsHour

The independence of the PBS NewsHour is questioned due to its reliance on corporate sponsors such as Chevron and General Electric. The discussion argues that such financial ties compromise the integrity of public broadcasting. This is contrasted with the "No Agenda" value-for-value model, which relies solely on listener donations to avoid corporate influence.

pbs· newshour· chevron· general electric· corporate sponsorship

21:34 I actually told Mickey, I said, you know, because we're so tight, we can't watch television at all. It's so crappy. And I said, well, let's put PBS on our favorites list here on the Dish Network and the McNeil-Lear, whatever hour comes on. And, uh, and the thing, and you know, there's like a promotional consideration for the McNair News Hour brought to you by, and then it comes Chevron, um, I think, not BP, but it was Chevron GE, and then there it was. Like, how can I trust any... Oh, we just lost John. Okay. There we go. He's back. Well, that was totally weird.

22:18 Are you there? Yeah, that was weird. Where did you lose me? Hello? John? Oh, maybe you have to... Don't hang up. Don't hang up. Don't hang up. Alright, you there? Yeah, I am. Okay. Where'd you lose me? What? Where did you lose me? I lost you and there's an easy cut in. You were tuned into McNeil there and then you were about to say you got cut off right in the middle of promotional considerations. Yeah. Right in the middle of promotional. Right, promotional consideration provided by Chevron, provided by General Electric. We bring good things to life. Do you hear the echo?

23:05 Yeah, that's cool. No it's not. One, two, yeah, far from cool. Okay, provided by Chevron, provided by GE, we bring good things to life and by... I'm like, how can you trust anything this guy is about to tell me? The whole program is controlled by corporate America and that's PBS, our jewel, our national treasure. Pardon that, we gotta get that clip back. Our national treasure. Hey ladies and gentlemen, this is no agenda. We have a very simple formula and it seems to be working. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And we got to. Someone's gotta do it.

23:49 Anyway, the company's name said Sy Syngenta s y n g e n t a hey, we're done with the cars I story I mean, you know, I think I just want to take a little bit of credit for for us uncovering We're not just uncovering and not really exposing but for now we just deconstruct tension reality We deconstructed and which is the way we deal with the news. We assume everything's got some hidden agenda And so we've tried it back you know, kind of tear it apart, rejigger it, and then figure out what might be going on. And we tend to be two or three weeks ahead of the mainstream media because of just that simple process. In this case, it was six or seven weeks. So when you hear PBS winding up with, and by viewers like you, thank you for your donation, you should be thinking, screw that jabroni, I'm handing five bucks to no agenda. That's what you should be doing.

CHAPTER 09 / 28 Discussion

Executive Producer Greg Birch and OpenYet.com

Greg Birch of Port Angeles, Washington, is recognized as the executive producer for episode 143 following a $200 donation. Birch, a dentist, requested a mention of his website, OpenYet.com. The hosts acknowledge his contribution and grant him the title for the current episode.

greg birch· port angeles· openyet.com· donation· executive producer

24:42 Right, and yeah, in fact if you wanted we can like mention a couple things that did happen. Hey, who's our executive producer? Indeed. I want to, our executive producer for this week's show is Greg Birch in Port Angeles, Washington. Hey, your neighbor, nice. Yeah, neighbor coughed up. Okay. And he wants us to plug openyet.com. He's a dentist, I believe. How do you spell that? Open, O-P-E-N-Y-E-T. Openyet.com. How much did Greg hand us to become the executive producer? He gifted us $200. Wow, Greg, thank you, man. You can now put that on your CV. You are the executive producer of No Agenda, episode 143, and we'll vouch for you.

CHAPTER 10 / 28 Discussion

Denver Snowfall Records and Climate Change Claims

Record snowfall in Denver, Colorado, is discussed in the context of changing weather patterns over the last 20 years. While historical anecdotes suggest Denver previously experienced only light flurries, recent years have seen frequent blizzards and heavy accumulations. These shifts are framed within the broader debate over climate change science.

denver· colorado· snowfall· climate change· weather patterns

25:35 Open yet will liberate, open yet will save time. I don't know what he's up to. Hey, I just want to mention that climate change is really hammering the world. You probably saw the record snowfall in Colorado. You know, the funny thing about climate change in Colorado is I remember 20 years ago, I think I must have talked about this before because I've always been baffled by it. A friend of mine moved to Colorado and he made this assertion that, you know, I said, isn't it kind of cold and snowy up there? No, it very rarely actually snows in Denver.

26:10 And ever since then it just snows every year tons in Denver. You know you haven't mentioned this but 15 or 20 years ago I was in Denver a lot we actually owned a company there and I remember that yeah like flurries but it wouldn't be like huge snowfall. And so that's changed. Yeah, no, because every year now they have a news specials and they show them even it gets so bad that they have it they carry it on national news and they show these you know this huge blizzard in Denver and this three feet of snow and this is every year it's like Denver just gets pounded. Yeah, well that's climate change for you. Well climate change. The science doesn't lie John, you can't be a climate change denier.

CHAPTER 11 / 28 Discussion

Listener Feedback and Show Topic Variety

A host shares feedback from his son, who criticized the show for focusing too heavily on repetitive political topics. The son suggested discussing more mundane subjects, such as public transportation or how to thicken gravy. The hosts joke about the difficulty of balancing "truth" with lighter content requested by family members.

listener feedback· family· public transportation· food network· gravy

26:54 So my son is disappointed in the No Agenda show now. Oh crap, which one? JC, The Smart One. But they're both smart. Eric will hear that go, what? Yeah, from now on it'll be The Smart One. Okay. Alright, what does the smart one have to say? Oh gee? Oh, he says that we're just he says we have any he says where's our no agenda? He says you guys are like always pounding on these same topics in this he says we're worried once you talk about you know how to thicken gravy or You know what's it? You know what's wrong with public transportation or one thing or another that's just kind of all you know that we normally ramble all right well What the hell he wants to know about gravy?

27:39 We know I'm just a whole network is a food network. So what? Hey, he's the smart one. Go to the food network, Jesse. I threw out the gravy thing myself, but it was just it was just a lament. So he doesn't listen anymore. You know what? My wife, by the way, I think is given up too. I think this is distressing. I think we have more listeners than ever, but you know, but I don't have the feedback. Yeah, but the people who are going to die when the world takeover comes, you know, they're gonna drop eventually. You know, what can I tell you? It's too much truth for them to handle, John. They want to know about gravy and about public transport. Does that give you a clue?

CHAPTER 12 / 28 Discussion

CDC Swine Flu Data and Demographic Disparities

Analysis of CDC documents regarding the H1N1 swine flu outbreak reveals that current infection levels are lower than the 2003 seasonal flu peak. Data indicates a significant demographic disparity, with African Americans representing only 3% of hospitalizations and deaths compared to white and Hispanic populations. The Department of Health and Human Services is criticized for not releasing full state-level hospitalization data.

cdc· h1n1· swine flu· demographics· hhs

28:21 I'm the one who came up with the gravy thing. He had some other one, I can't think of what it was. The point is that, maybe, I don't know, do we need another, you have I know a swine flu minute again, but haven't we pounded the swine flu enough that, you know, it rushed limbaugh's now to telling people not to get the vaccine. Well, I'm not that interested in telling people not to take the vaccine. By the way, Molly Wood and her son Elijah, they're both sick. I thought they had the shot. Yeah, no she got the shot for her kid and now they're both sick. Go figure. She got the shot, wait a minute. By the way, the interesting thing came out with the CDC is

29:08 is essentially bullshitting us concerning the number of swine flu cases it turns out now that yes so this is this is the only thing that's interesting to me I don't you know what go take the shot that's the beautiful thing about America is it as long as they're not mandating it then I'm fine hold on a second you can take the shot I'm so Eric is listening in on the stream right he wasn't Eric you're not allowed to listen turn off the stream you're now for a zone your battery says he says JC is a communist okay well that's true but you know what you're banned you're not allowed to listen don't let me catch you listening what's his IP address I'm gonna block him I don't want to leave okay so the only thing that I'm interested in I mean when I see

29:55 Napolitano. What's her name? Margaret, Janet, whatever her name is. When I see her come on stage with Secretary of Health and Human Services Sebelius, and she goes first. So here's the Department of Homeland Security, the secretary, the boss of Homeland Security who comes on first to talk about swine flu. The president has called on a national emergency, which he says is a preventative move. And what the hell is that? A national emergency when there's no national emergency? their own documents the CDC released you know all this these new PDF files and I'll put them in the show notes they literally show the past 10 years of influenza

30:39 And you'll see that 2003 is way off the charts compared to 2009, 2010. We're not even anywhere near what happened in 2003 and that was just regular seasonal flu. On top of that, the information from the states on the hospitalization and death toll are not even being released by HHS. So when people say, oh 100 kids have already died, there's no proof of that. The documents that came out just this week, just yesterday, show some really interesting things. Did you know, John, that of all the deaths, and the total number I can count in the US is like 86 total, that includes infants, the 18 to 34, 18 to 15 year olds, the 50 plus and the 65 plus, whatever.

31:30 that the majority are white and hispanic and that there's like three percent is african-american yeah i think that's highly interesting shit they even say it in their own document this warrants uh some investigation as to why blacks are not dropping like flies, are not contracting the H1N1 virus and why they're not, obviously there's going to be less percentage of them dying. And so you get into all of this shit and I actually find it enjoyable to do some investigative work which seems to be very difficult for, oh I don't know, the White House press corps or journalists in general

CHAPTER 13 / 28 Discussion

Vaccine Adjuvants and Mixing Needle Administration

While U.S. H1N1 vaccines are marketed as adjuvant-free, evidence suggests they may be administered using "adjuvant mixing needles" that combine components on-site. GlaxoSmithKline's administration instructions show a multi-step process for mixing antigens and adjuvants before injection. Additionally, multi-dose vials continue to contain thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative banned in many European products.

adjuvants· thimerosal· glaxosmithkline· mercury· h1n1 vaccine

32:10 And I come up with a couple of amazing discoveries. The first one, although... If you do say so yourself. If you don't mind me saying so myself. Of course we know that adjuvants are being used, the hamburger helper of the vaccine industry is being used in every other country except the United States. So all across Europe, all of the vaccines include adjuvants, the biggest one being GSK, GlaxoSmithKline, they're not Beecham anymore, GlaxoSmithKline. And I'm like, it's interesting because of course there's such a movement against adjuvants and it's been linked to autism. Although thimerosal is in almost, I think four of the five vaccines that are being used in the United States and that is actually illegal in most countries in Europe. You can't put the thimerosal in makeup products or anything else. Okay, get to the point. Okay. So did you know

33:06 that the vaccines distributed in the United States, it is correct they do not contain an adjuvant. However, they are being administered with so-called adjuvant mixing needles. What? Yes. So these are double needles where you grab some vaccine from vial one and then you grab some adjuvant from vial two and then you... It's like making epoxy glue. Yes, it's exactly what it is. And they're being administered with adjuvant mixing needles. What I can't find anywhere except on the GlaxoSmithKline

33:45 is instructions for administration. Now if you look at the GlaxoSmithKline website, they actually have a little animation that shows you, okay, first you suck up the vaccine, then you suck up the adjuvant, and they actually have a third one which is the antigen, and then you administer the shot. It's frightening how big the lie is because they're literally saying there's no adjuvants in the vaccine. That's actually the truth. But they are administering, I think they are administering by mixing the adjuvant on site and nowhere am I able to find the instructions for healthcare professionals on how to administer this stuff except for GlaxoSmithKline and I don't know how many states are using the GlaxoSmithKline vaccine.

34:32 So they're mixing it on site and therefore are basically getting around the whole conversation of there being adjuvants in the vaccine itself. And yeah, if you don't mind, I think that's a pretty big fine. So I'm looking at the PDF from the Department of Health in Maryland and they have a how to order the H1N1 and they're talking about this adjuvant mixing system but I don't see any. No, of course not. I don't see any. Probably just like anything else just stick it in the guy's arm and push. Yeah, yeah that's it.

35:15 And all of the 5ml vaccine shots all contain thimerosal, which of course contains mercury. And it's not trace amounts, it's actual measured amounts of mercury. So, but the bottom line, you're right John, I don't give a shit, please go ahead, take your shot, I'm paying for it, it's 10 billion dollars that the taxpayers are paying for this bullshit emergency that we have. I'm fine, it's okay, take my money. Well you don't have to be bitter about it.

CHAPTER 15 / 28 Discussion

Media Messaging and the Outbreak Meme

Government officials Kathleen Sebelius and Janet Napolitano have shifted their terminology from "pandemic" to "outbreak" during press conferences. This change is viewed as a calculated effort to evoke the imagery of the film *Outbreak* and increase public concern. The use of synchronized media "memes," such as the word "dithering" to describe President Obama, is also noted.

kathleen sebelius· janet napolitano· outbreak· media memes· jon stewart

38:14 discussing this and it's a kind of scandalous to be honest about it CBS seems to be the network that's kind of backed off of the litany more than the other networks so I mean the guys who are I still I'm not getting what NBC is up to one of the things I wanted to discuss today was what the kind of propaganda that we're hearing on on NBC specifically your favorite show in mine the Law and Order series which is laced with the vile propaganda of one sort or another. Can I just mention one more thing before you continue with that? The meme has changed, the wording has changed. I watched the Sibelius and Napolitano press conference last night. By the way, before you say the meme, I have to mention something. Sibelius is the most patronizing, horrible person when she talks. She sounds like Carly Fiorina, this kind of snotty style that is... And she's a Bilderberger. Anyway... Or is she now? I think she is, yeah.

39:18 So they're doing their little stick there. There's like five journalists in the audience because no one gives a crap anymore. They just want the death number so they can report something big in their headlines. And the meme has now changed from a flu pandemic to an outbreak. It's an outbreak and you start reading this everywhere. It's outbreak, outbreak, outbreak, which I think is meant to recall Dustin Hoffman's movie in your mind. Oh, absolutely. Outbreak, outbreak. Oh, we're all going to die from the outbreak. So it's changed. It's no longer a pandemic. It's an outbreak. And that is not by accident. These people don't use words like this by accident at all. They're very sophisticated.

40:05 All right, so yeah, I know in fact that Jon Stewart I've started recording the show again because he's actually gotten good again and he goes after these He does a really good job of going after these memes and That keep cropping up, you know, everybody's saying the exact same word under sitting right in some sequence. Mm-hmm And there's one going on now about Obama, all the right-wingers are using the same term, dawdle or dwiffle or something, I can't remember what the word is. I know what you're talking about, it's not dwaddle. I know what you mean, I heard it too.

CHAPTER 16 / 28 Discussion

Kenneth Feinberg and Executive Paymaster Roles

Kenneth Feinberg, the official overseeing executive pay cuts for bailed-out companies, is criticized for his previous role managing the 9/11 Victim Compensation Fund. In that role, he required families to waive their right to sue the government in exchange for payments. Questions are raised about why GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt's pay remains untouched despite GE Capital receiving government bailouts.

kenneth feinberg· paymaster· 9/11 fund· ge· jeffrey immelt

40:46 And, yeah, outbreak is a good one. Well, that brings us to the media itself. I mean, the worst part of the media, which is the people who produce dramas and NBC, of course, you know, somebody, one of the right wing talkers pointed this out that the only, you know, they have a czar now for pay cuts and all the rest of it. No, no, it's even worse than that. He's the pay master. Yeah, the paymaster is over. If we're not slaves to the paymaster, who by the way is the same guy that forced the 9-11 families who were victims, whose family members died, forced them to take the payment and then forever shut up and never litigate against the government, that's the paymaster.

41:29 This is the same guy? Kenneth Feinberg, yeah. Oh yeah, he's a totally evil dude. He set up this fund and said, okay, so you can get restitution. If your family member died in 9-11, you can get a part of the money, but you have to sign this document that says you never ever can sue the government or litigate at all ever again. That's the same guy, the pay master. Yes, Massa! Yes, Massa! I'll take your money and shut up, Massa! So, that guy, the one guy that's noticeably missing in action in terms of having his pay cut or even questioned is Imholt of General Electric. Because apparently General Electric with MSNBC and all the pro-Obama support is off limits. Immune, he's immune, even though GE Capital got a huge bailout, didn't they? They got a second one, as far as I know, they got two.

42:22 Yeah, he shouldn't be immune because they got money from the government, but no, he's making millions because he plays the game. He's on NBC telling it like it is. And by the way, Eric did come up with the words dithering. Is dithering mean? Right. Turn off your radio, Eric. Oh, no, wait. Eric is the good son, right? He's a good son. He contributes to the show. We have the smart son and the good son. Eric I'm sorry slip of the tongue. He's at least he programs. Yeah, that's a plus All right. Do we have a clip to play here or you got a whole bunch of a out of a jail? That's the key to success. That's a good kid right there as a part of the place in court one Smart one's been in the slammer. No, no, nobody goes to jail in our family. I'm already in trouble with Eric now He's gonna probably poison the pudding. I

CHAPTER 17 / 28 Discussion

Law & Order Abortion Propaganda and NBC Agenda

Recent episodes of the television drama *Law & Order* featured graphic descriptions of late-term abortion procedures and characters questioning the validity of Roe v. Wade. The inclusion of such polarizing content on NBC, often viewed as a pro-Obama network, is seen as a potential distraction or a shift in media programming. The hosts speculate on the underlying political or religious agenda behind these scripts.

law & order· nbc· abortion· roe v. wade· jeffrey immelt

43:18 So anyway, let me look at these clips. First of all, there's a couple of interesting clips that are a little off topic we should get into before I get into the NBC clips. Where Imholt, or whatever his name is... Imholt. Imholt. Jeffrey Imholt. Well, let's play those. Okay, there's a bunch of law and order clips. For some reason, they've decided to go after Roe versus Wade. Oh, well that's next, of course. Abortion is always a fun one to distract the country while the bankers steal your money. Yeah, well they've done a really good job here. Let me take a... there's a bunch of LOA clips there, they say. Yep. Let me go to the mailbox and look at the... I've got Roe vs. Wade, abortion description, and Connie and Roe v. Wade. Okay, do... okay, start with the first one. Okay, Roe vs. Wade.

44:11 Half the jury was in tears. That doesn't mean they'll quit. You're deceiving yourself. I love this actor is great. You're deceiving yourself. Just acting. All it takes is one vote to hang this jury and the next and the next. We're not offering Grogan a plea bargain. Manslaughter's a reasonable compromise for the cold-blooded murder of a doctor performing legal procedures. Substitute slavery for abortion? John Brown for Wayne Grogan? In its day, Roe v. Wade conformed to what we knew then about human life and science. Contraception was limited. Most birth defects were untreatable. 35 years later, birth defects can be corrected. Disabled children are protected by a bill of rights. Contraception of every kind is available. Yet people who don't want to still get pregnant. So their rights should reign supreme? My God!

45:07 Cats and dogs have more rights than the unborn. No agenda there, huh? Oh brother, well it just gets worse. So besides that piece of propaganda, which is just so blatant it's not funny, I mean it's got nothing to do with moving the story forward. It's at all. He's actually reading a fact sheet, you know, some like some some some fact sheet from the The anti-abortion movement. Yeah, now here's the next one which is which is okay well if that didn't get you that's the logical part. Let's go to the emotional part and let's... Oh no, oh no. We're not going to talk about how an abortion is done is it? Well then in this one case because they have this guy there's a reason that they're trying to just play abortion description and this will get... After Ms. Doe is in the stirrups I started...

46:00 Already I'm done. In the stirrups, nice. That's not what they're called by the way. There's an official name for it. IV Valium and Dr. Benning inserted the ultrasound probe. The next step was to inject potassium chloride into the fetus's heart to induce cardiac arrest. Did something go wrong? The injection was off target. The patient moved and the needle went into the uterus. The patient started to go into labor. What did Dr. Benning do? There was nothing he could do. The mother was having contractions. The baby was born alive. Dr. Benning held him in his hands. The boy was crying a little cry, moving his arms and legs. Dr. Benning asked the mother if she wanted him to complete the procedure and she said yes, finish it. What happened next?

46:52 Dr. Benning cut the umbilical cord then he took the surgical scissors and inserted it into the base of the baby's skull. And by the way, this is true, this actually does happen, although not usually in an accident, but the way that many doctors get around The legality of a post-birth abortion is they will actually hold... I'm sorry to gross you out, but I have done some research into this. They will hold the head... of the child against the woman's vagina or keep the legs in or some shit like that and so it hasn't been completely born and then what she says about the scissors, that's true. That's absolutely true. Well I'm not saying this is intuitive but this is not what's going on constantly.

47:45 And why is this on? This is gruesome material to be putting on TV, period. Well, it's to forward an agenda, which right or wrong is irrelevant. But just so you know, you're being programmed, people. You're being programmed. So here we go with the last one. Connie, who is the female attorney, in the law and order, this is the regular law and order by the way, this is not the special victims unit or any of the weird law and orders. This is the real one, this is the real deal. They save their best for this show. So I'm wondering exactly how, you know what the... I'm not sure what the agenda is here because it seems that the liberals who are in power don't want to, they would rather keep Roe vs. Wade because that's their base. So why is NBC having extreme anti-Roe vs. Wade stuff? If all of a sudden Jeffrey Immelt's salary gets cut, this show is the reason. They'll play Connie in Roe vs. Wade.

48:47 It was up to the judge to disallow it. Now it's up to us to convince the jury to ignore it. I mean you of all people Connie, I thought you wanted to win this case. I grew up thinking Roe v. Wade was gospel and that a woman's privacy was inviolate. But after hearing that woman on the stand talk about her baby dying in her arms... I don't know. I don't know where my privacy ends and the other beam's dignity begins. This almost sounds like a religious agenda somehow. Yeah, no, it's a very religious agenda, but I'm wondering what it's doing on Law & Order. They just kind of mystified me. I'm sorry, that was an actual clip from the abortion. So off. Very, very funny.

49:50 Sorry, all right. So anyway, so there's something weird going on at NBC that they would run this show Well, the Sparky J says in the in our no agenda chat comm chat room That there may be some big abortion issue coming up and that this is some pre-programming For the masses and by the way, you know, these these shows are top of the list You know all of them NCIS, what is it? NCIS? NCIS, which doesn't have as much propaganda as CIS does. The CIS series has lots of propaganda. But the CBS propaganda is slightly different than the NBC propaganda. And the ABC propaganda, again, they have their agenda too and it's kind of interesting to try to figure out where these are headed. This one here had me kind of mystified because it's extreme. I mean, it's a one-two-three punch for people who are

50:45 pro-life and I'm sure that we're cheering maybe just trying to get a bigger audience I'm not sure but this doesn't fit in with the Obama agenda. No. Well you know there's... Unless there's another shoe to drop and there's something we don't know that's going on in me because you know that should everything on NBC should fit in with the Obama agenda NBC is the Obama mouthpiece. The Obama Network. So I have no idea. Now, another story that came out that I want to run real quick. There's two clips here. One's called flash photography and I think the other one is drugs. Yeah, flash photography followed by drugs in flat.

CHAPTER 18 / 28 Discussion

Noriko Sakai Drug Arrest and Metric Measurement Discrepancies

Japanese singer Noriko Sakai was arrested after police found 0.008 grams of a stimulant in her apartment. The BBC's reporting of this "trace amount"—equivalent to 8 milligrams or 24 grains of salt—is contrasted with the 25 milligrams of thimerosal found in standard flu vaccines. The arrest has caused a major scandal in Japan despite the extremely small quantity of the substance involved.

noriko sakai· japan· bbc· metric system· thimerosal

51:24 But just play this first. There's a woman, a very famous singer in Japan, and we could use some Japanese donors by the way, a famous actress, singer, just mostly a singer who got busted for some sort of drugs. And so the BBC was running this report. But listen to this first flash photography thing. I have to ask you a question. He has pleaded guilty to using and possessing illegal drugs. Well, the case has gripped Japan since August when she went on the run after her husband was arrested. from Tokyo, Roland Burke reports his report contains some flash photography. So they say, so I'm thinking, so they have a lot of flash, does the BBC require to warn people in case they have an epileptic fit? Yes, yeah, this has been happening for a couple years, whenever there is a program that can have flashing lights or flash photography it's always mentioned at the beginning of the broadcast, always. Even with Big Brother

52:18 You know so when they had the Big Brother live shows and they have all these very lights and all the strobes going off outside And that's channel 4 I believe in the UK. They'll say you know now we switch over live to the Big Brother house warning this program contains flashing lights Unbelievable. So, okay. Now let's just play the second clip in this which talks about this woman getting busted because there's a piece of information in here that for one thing they play it weird is very propagandistic in the way they do it and then when you start actually paying attention to it you realize how idiotic this whole process is. Okay, this is drugs in flat? Yeah.

52:58 And this is the woman they'd all come to see, Noriko Sakai, famous since the 1980s as a singer and actress. She's already apologized publicly after police found 0.008 grams of what's been described as a stimulant drug in her flat. They found... 0.008 grams... Yes, 0.008 grams, which of course is a misuse of the term gram because it's not a gram or multiple grams, although you hear eight grams, which sounds like a reasonable amount. It's like milligrams. But point, what he said was 0.008 grams.

53:40 Which is actually 8 one thousandth of a gram. It's a milligram. It's less than... it's fractions of a gram. 8 milligrams. 8 milligrams, yeah. I calculated 8 milligrams and it's exactly the same as 24 grains of salt. What is... so that's like a trace amount. It's not even a trace amount. I don't think you can do a test on that small amount. But what is the drug? What is the... They never say. They said it was some sort of a stimulant. It was probably coke. but it could have been anything but what difference does it make with only 24 single little bitty crystals of salt sized sample I mean that's not enough of a sample to tell anything it's to take a wild guess on some spectrometer. By the way there's 25 milligrams of thimerosal in the flu vaccine which is more than they found in this woman's flat yet thimerosal and the mercury in the vaccines is considered a trace amount.

54:36 Yeah, there you go. And that's like 25 versus 8. And that's a trace amount, because 8 is a hypertrace. So this whole thing, I don't know what's going on in Japan with this woman, but they've arrested her over with these 24 grains of salt and now she's a big scandal, she's apologizing, she's bowing a lot and the whole thing is like the Japanese that screwed up and does anybody notice this not not not dot not not not eight? First of all, well in Europe or in the UK, you know, they do understand some of the metric system but even there they use stone

55:14 you know, for weights like stone. So no, no one fucking knows what it means, dude. No one's doing the math, no one's doing the calculations. I mean, we just did it for you. The trace amount in the vaccine considered to be a trace amount is 25 milligrams. Oh, that's hard. It's hardly anything in there. It's just a trace amount. Yet, 0.008 is considered to be a big deal. So yeah, it's a scandal. Hey, I was reading my copy of the Federal Register. as I do often. Oh God! Some light reading. Some very light reading and I discovered a very interesting entry for September 29th 2009. The President of the United States, let me see if I can, here it is,

CHAPTER 19 / 28 Discussion

Obama Delegation of Missile Technology Export Authority

President Obama signed a memorandum delegating his authority to certify missile technology exports to China to Secretary of Commerce Gary Locke. This move bypasses a 1999 law requiring the President to personally notify Congress 15 days before such exports. Critics point to Locke's history as a lobbyist and the potential for sensitive technology transfers to the People's Republic of China.

barack obama· gary locke· china· missile technology· federal register

56:05 I want to find the actual wording. I wrote it down of course. By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including Section 301 of Title III United States Code, I hereby delegate to you the functions of the President under Section 1512 of the National Defense Authorization Act for the fiscal year 1999. In the performance of your responsibility under this memorandum, you shall consult as appropriate the heads of other executive departments and agencies. You are authorized and directed to publish this determination in the Federal Register. So what was this about? First of all, you have to understand what Section 1512 is.

56:45 is the president's power, the president shall certify to the congress at least 15 days in advance of any export to the People's Republic of China of missile equipment or technology as determined in section 74 of the Arms Export Control Act. So essentially the president gave up his power of this rather important function namely what kind of missile technology we export or give to the People's Republic of China and he gave it to his Secretary of Commerce who happens to be the first Chinese American ever in an administration and I find that... This was Clinton? No, this is Obama. No, you said 1999. No, no, the act is from 1999. This was signed last month by our president.

57:40 and uh... so that's the way the president gave up his presidency for a few ten minutes and give it to the secretary of commerce so he could send some missile stuff to the act of china and of course uh... this is a gary lock uh... who actually was a uh... you know a big uh... clinton uh... guy and he is the new uh... secretary of commerce the first chinese-american ever to hold a u s uh... governor's office he's a former top chinese lobbyist i thought we were supposed to have any of those administration specially and at that level and uh... he was the you know you know the clinton's got a lot of money in support from china he was kind of that the pass through the conduit

58:23 from Chinese Communist leader Hu Yintao during the Clinton administration. So I think this is concerning that the president has given up the actual power of informing Congress about what kind of missile technology we're sending over to China. You know, the only paper that I can find covering this Well, the Washington Times ran a story, the Washington Times, is the Asia Times. There's a bunch of stuff about it. Which we don't read a lot here in the United States. I find it, yeah, I don't see it sitting around the airport. No, it's not usually on my newsstand.

59:08 Meanwhile, the US Department of Commerce officials made an attempt to contradict this claim, kind of what you said was the claim, in the same story by asserting that the shift will not cause controls to be loosened in regards to the export of missile and space technology. I see that as a shift when the president actually writes, I hereby give up my presidential power to you, to you, to export United Space United States missile and space launch technology. The US Department of Commerce is blamed for mishandling a series of sensitive technology transfers in the late 1990s, which when that thing came up was in 99 and Clinton was always blamed for this, that resulted in China's deployment of a more accurate and reliable long-range missile. Right. And now we're just like, all right, let's just let's give it to the guys. Here you go, China.

1:00:04 I thought China was supposed to be the bad guys. I thought that, you know, or is this a quid pro quo for them to hold on to our dollars so that they don't sink the dollar? Oh, absolutely. Are you kidding? Yeah, well it's got to be something like that. And thank you, thank you Wall Street Journal, thank you New York Times for not reporting on this. I think this is huge. And all you got to do is pick up the Federal Register. Well, the Asia Times thinks it's huge. Well, of course. They're like, hey, dude, we just got their space technology. Cool. Well, I think the Asia... I think these guys are often... This is not a Chinese paper. This is one of these papers that I think is critical. It's like the South China Post. Right. So, all right. I'd expect people at the New York Times to be reading this stuff.

CHAPTER 20 / 28 Discussion

No Agenda Value-for-Value Funding Model

The hosts appeal for listener support to maintain the show's independence from corporate investors and advertisers. They contrast their model with PBS's reliance on corporate "promotional considerations." Listeners are encouraged to donate five dollars a year to ensure the program can continue its "media assassination" and deconstruction of mainstream news.

donation· value-for-value· no agenda· media assassination· sand hill road

1:00:51 There's too much drinking to do. You're in New York for God's sake. There's plenty of other things to do besides read the... The only reason you read it is because you're bored stiff in San Francisco. No, the reason I do this is because this is what we do on this show. We go that one step further and we un... It's a media assassination. That's what we call it. And this is a fine time to say, we need your assistance because we'd like to do more of this. I'm doing this, there's actually a meeting going on as we speak on Sand Hill Road with some of our investors and it's not an unimportant meeting. None of our meetings with the investors are unimportant and I am not at that meeting because I said no, I'm sorry, I have to do the work, I have to do no agenda, I have to do this show.

1:01:34 Whether I get fired for not showing up or whether you just want another if you want more of this if you want us to really be able to be effective and concentrate on this full time and not doing it during off hours the middle of the night or you know when I get awakened by Gitmo nation at 615 and decide well I might as well take advantage of that time instead of sleeping some more then then you can help us out by donating to this program. And we need a couple more nights, but really if we could get every single one of our listeners who are within the sound of my voice to just give us five bucks a year, we'd be set.

1:02:10 But we've got like a couple thousand people who have donated, they keep donating, they're staunch supporters, they keep coming at us. Would you rather hear promotional consideration for this program brought to you by... Is that what you want to hear? Would we be more trustworthy if you heard that at the beginning of the show? Or would you rather hear that a producer who listens to the show is an executive producer because he donated the most money? I think the choice is pretty simple. Yeah, and I think that people that give to PBS are making a mistake. They should be giving it to us. So let's go over some of the people that did contribute since last week. We have a lot of international contribution this week for some reason, including a couple of people from Germany, which I think is a good sign. But let's start with one from the Netherlands, because you're going to have to help me pronounce a $75 donation from

CHAPTER 21 / 28 Discussion

International Donor Recognition and Global Flu Updates

A segment dedicated to acknowledging international donors includes contributors from the Netherlands, Germany, Australia, Switzerland, and Trinidad. Updates from the Netherlands mention a government surplus of flu vaccines and complaints regarding dull needles. Notable donations include $143 from "Yay Bill" in Trinidad and $123.45 from Benny Glaser in Basel, Switzerland.

netherlands· germany· australia· switzerland· trinidad

1:02:59 It's spelled M-A-A-I-K-E. Mica? Is it Mica? Is that a male or a female name? That's typically a female name. I'm sorry, what? Typically female. Mica. M-A-A-I-K-E. Let me put a number down. That's number 19, I think. Mica, yeah. Number 19. Mica, and the last name is Boelsma. B-O-E-L-S-M-A. Boelsma. Michael Bulls my yeah VNN Vianen

1:03:39 This is by the way, if you go to Portugal, people who can speak a little Spanish you'll find it's really frustrating. And at $75? Just like, while we're thinking Mike, I'd just like to say many reports from Gitmo Nation Lowlands, the Netherlands, of course they're rolling out the flu vaccine as well. They made a small mistake and ordered two shots for everyone. Oops, turns out you only need one shot. their minister of health is trying to figure out whatever he can do with the excess shots. He's like even saying, oh, we can give it to kids under six months now. He's just trying to get rid of the supply that he bought. I'm wondering if these shots are just water. But the needles that they have over there are actually dull.

1:04:19 And people are complaining that the needles that are supplied are hurting their arms because they have some kind of weird protective layer that gets pushed up when you jam it into the vaccine vial. And God knows, maybe they're doing more adjuvant mixing over there. I have no idea. But anyway, we got our eye on you. We got your dull needles right here. Line up. Another 75 bucks comes from Robert Alter in Kansas City, but not Kansas City, Kansas, Kansas City, Missouri. Yes. Greg Birch, we already mentioned, is our executive producer today from Port Angeles, Washington, $200.

1:04:58 Now he's going to become a knight, so it's going to start showing up again. John Matthews, of course, has been doing this knighthood, this self-accounting knighthood thing. He gives another... Ah, is it 77-77 again? No, no, that's not the 77-77 guy. In fact, we didn't see, hear from him. We have to... I think he's got one more to do, but it didn't come in this week. No, John Matthews is 150. And then from Trinidad, Trinidad Mon... Yes. Unbelievable. A place I've always wanted to visit by the way. And the guy gave us $143 and he just wants to be known as Yay Bill. Okay, Yay Bill.

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1:07:06 $100 and he's from Dresden Dresden pronounced Dresden in the USA Benny Glaser GLEZER BENI gave us one two three four five a hundred twenty three dollars and forty five cents. Oh, excellent. Love that. Thank you, Benny. And he's in Basel, Switzerland. Basel. Basel. That's right. Basel. Pronounced Basel. Yeah, Basel. Switzerland is, except for this one company that we talked about earlier, is pretty nice. If you want to, if people out there want to... Switzerland's beautiful. If people want to travel to like a Disneyland country, go to Switzerland. It's quite picturesque. Go to Montreux.

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CHAPTER 22 / 28 Discussion

GAO Study on Internet Traffic Blocking During Pandemics

A General Accounting Office (GAO) study suggests that the Department of Homeland Security may need to authorize ISPs to block popular websites during a pandemic. The goal would be to prioritize bandwidth for financial industry employees working from home. Officials stated that "unlimited internet access during a pandemic is not realistic," raising concerns about government control over residential transmission speeds.

gao· homeland security· internet blocking· isp· pandemic planning

1:08:37 He said this is what I had in my PayPal account if you just tell people just to get all that excess money out of a pelican They're not using yeah dump your PayPal cash just dump it to us and close the account no agenda show.com or Dvorak org slash na and It's stories like this next one that that we really try to uncover and you won't hear about anywhere else the General Accounting Office I did blog this earlier in the week They did a study involving homeland security and the study basically

1:09:15 results in some pretty frightening thoughts. Remember we were talking, John, about what happens if, or the possibility of the banks closing because of the swine flu? So now this has been taken one step further. Remember now, bear in mind the President has powers given to him by, I think, himself, that he can take control of the Internet in case of a national emergency. So what this whole study did is it said to the Department of Homeland Security, hey, what happens if lots of people in the financial industry, thank you darling, if lots of people in the financial industry are homesick with the swine flu and have to continue their very important work from home over the internet, that could congest the internet.

1:10:05 certainly the local loops of the few providers we have in the United States. Yeah, because if they're at home on the internet, that's going to congest the internet, but if they're at work in their office on the internet, that's not going to have any effect. Well, typically they have a different type of access. So the only access they have would be one or two steps removed from their office access. They got some pretty sophisticated networks, particularly for that flash trading, the high velocity trading a lot of these jabronis are doing. But the Department of Homeland Security said, well you know what, it just may be, it may have to be that we'll have to jump in there and if a lot of people are sick with the swine flu, we're going to have to force the ISPs to block certain traffic so this important trading can continue. Yeah, yeah that's a good one. Where'd you get that? From the General Accounting Office. Oh. The GAO.

1:11:04 and there were this is why you must be to read about his in the new york times and expected an expectation of unlimited internet access during a pandemic is not realistic according to uh... jerald levine of department of homeland security and uh... looking here at this report a big pdf but you know that'll be in the show notes of course all by the way in this where i found this and the actual pdf had moved a couple times So this shit is being hidden all the time. They're trying to move this stuff around so that they're still... That's not possible. We're transparent here. Transparent. We're so transparent. Private internet providers might need government authorization to block popular websites or reduce residential transmission speeds to make way for commerce. Yeah, like I don't get enough blocking of the Dvorak Uncensored site from one ISP or another.

1:11:57 By the way, I want to remind people out there and you too, when you see something like this as a PDF, don't just save the link. Save the PDF. Save the PDF. Save the PDF. Save whatever page, you see a weird page with some weird stuff on it, don't save the link. Save as webpage as. Yes. And of course, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you're saying this stuff does disappear. And of course, sad news of Jeffrey Pinkhauer, who benefited to the tune of about $7 billion from the Madoff scandal. He forgot how to swim in his own pool. He got two to the head in a new-fashioned way. He drowned in his own pool, which is, I really love that. That's, you know, I feel bad for the guy and his family and everything. But this is a key witness

CHAPTER 23 / 28 Discussion

Death of Madoff Associate Jeffrey Picower

Jeffrey Picower, a billionaire who reportedly profited $7 billion from Bernie Madoff's Ponzi scheme, was found dead in his swimming pool. While officially attributed to a heart attack, his death removes a key witness from the ongoing investigation into the fraud. The incident is described as a significant setback for the recovery of funds for Madoff's victims.

jeffrey picower· bernie madoff· ponzi scheme· heart attack· witness

1:11:04 and there were this is why you must be to read about his in the new york times and expected an expectation of unlimited internet access during a pandemic is not realistic according to uh... jerald levine of department of homeland security and uh... looking here at this report a big pdf but you know that'll be in the show notes of course all by the way in this where i found this and the actual pdf had moved a couple times So this shit is being hidden all the time. They're trying to move this stuff around so that they're still... That's not possible. We're transparent here. Transparent. We're so transparent. Private internet providers might need government authorization to block popular websites or reduce residential transmission speeds to make way for commerce. Yeah, like I don't get enough blocking of the Dvorak Uncensored site from one ISP or another.

1:11:57 By the way, I want to remind people out there and you too, when you see something like this as a PDF, don't just save the link. Save the PDF. Save the PDF. Save the PDF. Save whatever page, you see a weird page with some weird stuff on it, don't save the link. Save as webpage as. Yes. And of course, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, you're saying this stuff does disappear. And of course, sad news of Jeffrey Pinkhauer, who benefited to the tune of about $7 billion from the Madoff scandal. He forgot how to swim in his own pool. He got two to the head in a new-fashioned way. He drowned in his own pool, which is, I really love that. That's, you know, I feel bad for the guy and his family and everything. But this is a key witness

1:12:54 In the entire Madoff scandal, and of course this significantly slows down the unwinding of the Ponzi scheme because they can't get this guy to testify anymore. But he, and the question was, was he in on the scam? Let me think, $7 billion, yes, of course he was in on the scam. And he was, they said he had a heart attack while swimming, yeah, okay. It's the new version of two to the head. Well, you know the heart attack thing, the induced heart attacks with, uh, that can be done. I mean cyanide is quickly metabolizing it and gives you that look and feel. Heart attack. Oh yeah, yeah. So, uh, talking about real news. You know, I haven't used that in so long, I don't even know where the button is. And now, back to real news.

CHAPTER 24 / 28 Discussion

Reality Television Formats and Adult Video Awards

The hosts discuss the repetitive and cheap production of reality television shows like *So You Think You Can Dance*, noting how they extend seasons based on ratings. A brief mention is made of the Adult Video Awards and the sheer number of nominees involved in such ceremonies. The segment concludes with a listener-produced advertisement for the No Agenda show.

reality tv· ratings· adult video awards· stoya· entertainment

1:13:51 So I'm watching America Can Dance or How to Dance, Do You Wanna Dance? Were you watching in your underwear? Yes. With your hand in your shorts? Drinking a warm milk? No, beer. A stale Miller. So, I mean, that's the image you want. Yeah. So, hold on, I'm just enjoying the visual. So I'm watching, it's one of these shows, I can't remember, I only saw the end of it. But I was watching the ending and I remember the time we did the No Agenda where we had the porn awards and every nomination was like a million people.

1:14:28 So, you know, they just would name person after person after person. I was like, and people would sit there, I guess you just sit there mesmerized by these long lists of people. They were on the other night, the adult video awards. Oh, I missed them. Yeah, we watched for like 10 minutes. It was amazing. Was Stoya on, our friend? Who? So anyway. No. No, she wasn't. Oh, that's too bad. So anyway, so I'm watching the end of the show where they're going to say who's going to be on next week. And this is the clip which I adequately named Cripes. Just listen to this. Tonight you've seen the talent that got them here to Hollywood. Tomorrow night, these dancers compete for real. And here they are. Pauline. Victor. Bianca. Russell. Eleanor. Shannig. Shevin. Legacy. Catherine. Nathan. Milij.

1:15:29 How many people do this talk with short in the show What do we need? Is this show two hours long because they have these lists of people? Who cares? Let me tell you the format of these shows. Here's what they do. These shows are so fluid. They look at the ratings and if the ratings are rocking, they will bring in all kinds of stuff like wild card contestants and secret celebrity contestants. Anything to get an extra show out of it.

1:16:16 They go from the typical 13 episodes in one series, they'll go to 26 just because the ratings are so rocking and people are so hypnotized by the crap. If it's working, it's working. This is beautiful. This is the cheapest form of entertainment you can make and it works. I like it. We should be doing some of that ourselves. Well, we may be making a lot more money. That's for sure. But you know the rock org slash na it's the kind of reminder to put on it You know one of our producers went through a lot of effort to try and put together an ad for us and even though it's not quite What he wanted or what we wanted. I just want to play it because it's one of those left right stereo thingies. Oh, yeah, right Yeah, we should play this and maybe it'll help if you're like me you're sick of the mainstream media Digesting the news you feed you a slap. Oh

CHAPTER 25 / 28 Discussion

Israeli Milk Import Tariffs and US Dairy Crisis

President Obama signed a memorandum eliminating import levies on Israeli milk and dairy products, coinciding with a 50% drop in US milk prices. While mainstream outlets like USA Today attribute the price collapse to oversupply and falling demand, they omit the impact of the new Israeli imports. US dairy farmers are reportedly slaughtering herds as they can no longer compete with the subsidized or tariff-free foreign products.

israel· milk prices· rahm emanuel· tariffs· dairy farmers

1:17:04 You've come to appreciate commercial-free commentary from Adam Curry. If you get your news from CNN, you know that their biggest sponsors are pharmaceutical companies. If you're looking for truths, where are you supposed to go? CBS are not allowed to tell you the truth. That's why I financially support No Agenda with regular donations at devorak.org.nna Join a growing number of Crackpot Buzzkill fans in donating at Dvorak.org.na. Tell a friend, donate, do your part in keeping this team together. Join us in supporting commercial-free and lightning programming. Right, you are now programmed.

1:17:49 Well, that would be great when we run that we'll run that on the stream every so often. Yeah, I'll program It's a little long. What's the time on that? What's that time? Let me see. I think it's like 48 seconds. Yes. Yes too long. We I think those things have to time out at 30. Yeah Gosh, John we should really start wrapping this up there's a couple things, you know the the We don't have to go into them too deeply, but farmers are up in arms because milk prices plunged 50%. And I was wondering why. You look at the USA Today article and you're like, hmm, it doesn't really say. But then if you look back a couple of days, it turns out we lifted all of the import duties on milk and milk products from Israel.

1:18:37 We're bringing milk in from Israel? Yes, we're screwing our farmers. We haven't got enough cows here? Yep, so here it is, US removes import levy on Israeli milk products and of course you won't get this from the New York Times, this is from the Ynet News which is an Israeli publication. Following diplomatic efforts, President Obama signs memo eliminating import sub-charge on dairy products from Israel. Well if it's good Israeli cheese or something like that I don't have a problem with it. It's also cheese. It's milk and milk products. Well cheese is fine, I don't have a problem with it. But don't you think there's a public health issue here when you have to pump a bunch of milk into a giant ship as though it was oil and then haul it across the ocean and then bottle it in the United States and drink this? God knows how. I mean, it doesn't make any sense to me. Well it's pandering to the Israelis of course.

1:19:34 well maybe it says following diplomatic efforts does that it does that headline not say at all diplomatic efforts up to now most of the world's countries exporting milk products the united states have been forced to pay a levy protecting local production fact french cheese for a while uh... camembert was uh... was rumored to go up to like three hundred percent import tax and but literally this this comes out on the twenty second this this news report and then uh... In USA Today, that report was on the... hold on, it's just loading here for a second. I think that was... Well, you're loading that. I'll mention that there seems to be a public relations battle going on between two camps of the various Jewish lobbies. One pro-Israel and one anti-Israel, and we're getting a lot of

1:20:27 Israeli news pro and con based on the fact that some and it's all from these promotional these PR companies that are the ones trying to you know get kind of divorce ourselves from Israel and the other one trying to bring the US-Israel relationship closer together. So we're going to be getting a lot more so people out there can look for a lot more kind of contradictory news and information about Israel. Well, and of course you couldn't think at all that Rahm Emanuel would have anything to do with it. Here it is the story on the 24th, two days later, milk prices have plunged by about 50% from the historic highs of last summer, pummeling producers such as Walt Moore, a fourth-generation farmer. So farmers now actually selling their cows for slaughter, which

1:21:17 really decimates the entire milk producing industry when you sell your cow. It's also sad, I mean these farmers are crying, they've had Bessie for a million years. Well, I mean it's not like they can't get more cows, but Rahm Emanuel is not known as a pro-Israel guy. I beg to differ on that. I think if you start looking into it, you're going to find out that he's one of these anti-Israel types. Forget Rahm Emanuel. So just listen to the way the US is programmed. We just told you one of the main reasons why these prices fell. That's very simple economics. USA Today, however, which is I think number two now behind the Wall Street Journal, which is the new USA Today, we've already discussed that. So here it is. Why prices are falling, subhead.

1:22:11 There are several reasons for the implosion, oversupply, falling export demand and continued high prices for supplies such as feed. Bullshit! Bullshit! Not one mention of the removal of the levy on Israeli dairy products. Not one mention. So this is how it's programmed. embargo or not embargo but the tariff lifting is can attribute to a mass amount of Israeli milk coming into the country. No, but it can attribute to milk prices changing. It should be mentioned. It not only should it be mentioned but you know milk prices are set by

1:22:54 are not set by the producers, they're set by the distributors. They're set by Walgreens and the big box supermarket chains. They basically say, hey farmer, I'm going to pay you this much for your milk today. And they're all colluded. It's a huge, what's the word I'm looking for? when it's anti-competitive. Scam. So they basically say, oh hey, we can get our milk cheap from Israel, screw that. Screw you farmers, we're not going to pay you anymore. And then the prices tumble and Israel ships that shit in. So the dairy that should be mentioned is up in near Port Angeles, Washington where our executive producer is called the Dungeness Valley Creamery and there you can get raw milk by the gallon for $6.50 at the dairy. It's a little more when it's outside of town. And you drink that religiously, right? Oh, the stuff's fantastic.

CHAPTER 26 / 28 Discussion

Asteroid Explosion Over Indonesia and Media Coverage

A 10-meter-wide asteroid exploded over Indonesia with the force of three Hiroshima bombs, an event detected by global infrasound sensors. Despite the magnitude of the explosion, the event received minimal media coverage compared to celebrity news or the World Series. Astronomers were reportedly unaware of the object until it entered the atmosphere.

asteroid· indonesia· hiroshima· google news· infrasound

1:23:52 Okay, just one, there's just a couple more things John. There's just so much and we never get back to all the good stuff. I'm sure you heard about the asteroid exploding above Indonesia? Actually no. A 10 meter wide asteroid exploded in the atmosphere with the force of a small atomic bomb above Indonesia, the force was so large it actually set off, triggered the infrasound sensors of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty Organization more than 10,000 kilometers away. It's a huge explosion. If this thing had actually hit and had not blown up in the atmosphere, it could have wiped out an entire city.

1:24:43 You know there must not be a movie in the making that's why they didn't report it because usually this stuff is really good to promote your movie, but I think they could have used it for 2012 The asteroid that caused the blast was not known before it hit and took astronomers completely by surprise oops According to statistical studies of the near-earth asteroid population such objects are expected to collide with the earth on average every two to twelve years But that's a that's a pretty sizable little explosion there that we didn't hear about Three Hiroshima bombs. Yeah, that's right. That's what they equate it to. I'm looking at the coverage of this thing, by the way, and the reason I probably didn't hear about it, well, the Baltimore Sun had a thing. Here's interesting, you know, they have on Google News, they have the number of articles that people, you know, how many

1:25:36 papers are running it. With the asteroid, with the energy of three Hiroshima bombs exposed over Indonesia, highlighted by the Belfast Telegraph, there's 16 news articles about it under one gathering and then there's three news articles under meteor hits above Indonesia. Now if you go to Google News and look at the, let's see, I can just grab anything at random like Motorola's profits 1500 articles. How about Balloon Boy? So let's go to the big one Michael Jackson's This Is It banks 2.2 million on premiere night. 5,016 articles on it. Yeah of course that's what's really important to the people who are still asleep but slowly slowly slowly they're awakening.

CHAPTER 27 / 28 Discussion

Afghanistan Heroin Trade and DEA Agent Deaths

Three DEA agents were killed in a helicopter crash in Afghanistan, an incident occurring as heroin-related deaths spike in the United States. The US military is criticized for patrolling poppy fields rather than destroying them, with claims that the drug trade is being facilitated by high-level officials. General McChrystal's request for more troops is linked to the protection of the poppy harvest.

afghanistan· heroin· dea· poppy fields· general mcchrystal

1:26:27 Yeah, you know we can still go one step further if you're going to talk about sports game one of the world series is a rating hit 11,000 244 articles so Okay, obviously we're not getting this the news if you look at it if you start just look doing looking at the numbers It's all about it's there's no news. It's not news the world series is is you know a sports story It's not news A lethal combination of rock-bottom prices combined with a spike in the potency and availability of heroin on Massachusetts streets has led to a startling increase in the number of heroin-related deaths in the recent years.

1:27:05 This report comes from thebostonchannel.com. Of course, if you listen to this program, you know that the reason why we're in Afghanistan is actually to run the drugs on military transport back to the United States, distribute it to our children, high quality, low prices, kill everyone, get them hooked on crap. And of course the first DEA agents to be in Afghanistan who are supposed to be stopping the flow of drugs were killed in a helicopter crash a couple days ago. You got me on that one. Three drug enforcement administration special agents were among the dead of the... Gee, what a coincidence. Yeah. I guess they weren't playing ball. Coincidence? I think not!

1:27:53 and uh... of course uh... more pictures which are put into the show notes of no agenda show dot com of uh... the coalition troops which of course is mainly uh... u s troops actually patrol patrolling through the poppy fields not burning them not stopping them you know ken ken ken anyone see the picture the cia pays cars i cars i make sure it gets all shipped out we're bringing in more troops for the harvest so we can bring it all back to united states and it all just keeps flowing around it's god it's it's gold oil and drugs and our great general mcchrystal who apparently gets up at four in the morning cuz he can't sleep i guess he has the jitters uh... goes jogging every morning at that hour now by the way when he's the one who's required requiring that we get more more uh... troops and so they can protect the hop

1:28:43 the poppy fields now the funny thing about the two DEA guys who obviously three three three guys what a coincidence I guess it like I said they didn't want to play ball do you think the next DEA guys that are coming over there to look things over are gonna be a little more amenable oh dude I'd be like hey I don't see nothing I don't see anything don't look over here nothing to see here look at that all right and that's what's going on in your world people. Noagendashow.com or dvorek.org slash NA to donate as well. We need all the help we can get and something's got to happen in the new year. We always have good stuff on the show. I think we do pretty good. Yeah, well, we do well. Yes, I think we do pretty well. All right, so Sunday we're on as scheduled, the Church of No Agenda? Yeah.

CHAPTER 28 / 28 Discussion

Northwest Airlines Flight 188 Overflight Mystery

The official explanation for Northwest Airlines Flight 188 overshooting its destination—that pilots were distracted by their laptops—is challenged as a potential cover-up. The aircraft was out of radio contact for over an hour, leading to the firing of both pilots. The hosts suggest that a more serious technical or security issue may have occurred that has not been disclosed to the public.

northwest airlines· flight 188· air traffic control· pilots· laptops

1:29:46 Are you going up to... were you going up to Washington? Yeah, well I've got just a stopover on my way to Canada. I'm gonna be up in Edmonton. By the way, those helicopters went down due to unconfirmed reasons. Oh, okay. Unconfirmed reasons. Unconfirmed reasons. I'm a helicopter pilot, by the way. Oh, there's one more thing I want... there's so much more good stuff. Those Northwest pilots that overshot their destination, that thing stinks. That whole story stinks. They were looking at their laptops. Bullshit. Something happened there that we don't know and I don't have the information yet. I'd love to hear the air traffic control trying to raise them for over an hour and not getting any response because of their laptops. Look, I've flown a lot and I've flown big birds, little birds, whirlybirds, you name it. That's bullshit. That is just bullshit. There's a cover-up of something going on there.

1:30:46 Well, they fired him. Yeah. They'll have a book deal before you know it. Well, we'll see. Why don't you look into it? Maybe there's a scandal here because everyone just assumed they fell asleep. And of course, everyone's like, oh, I don't want to fly with Northwest. Oh, you should be flying the plane. Now, believe me, that is just not possible that they were looking at their laptops and weren't listening to ATC. It's just bullshit. It's bullshit. The story has already changed too many times. There's something going on. It started off as there was a heated debate. Oh, please. Coming to you from the minimum containment cell housing the crackpot command center and get more nation west San Francisco, California I'm Adam curry and from an area where there's no bridge Because they can't seem to keep these things Together I'm John C. Dvorak. We will talk to you again on Sunday right here on no agenda. I