Obamaland

00:00 So they've destroyed 450 tons of food in a starving area? These numbers don't make any sense. Adam Curry, John C. DeVora. It's October 25th, 2009, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 142. This is no agenda. Under declaration of national emergency for the swine flu. Hand coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West. It's San Francisco, California. I'm the Crackpot, Adam Curry. And from sunny Northern Silicon Valley on the top of the hill, I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! It's sunny here too, John. A little late.

00:42 What, for the sun? No, for us to be doing the show we're 20 minutes behind schedule. It's a Sunday, you know, the church of no agenda can only really commence when the high priests are ready. And you know, it just takes us a little while to get into it all. Last night I went to, what's it, RN 47, is that the name of the restaurant? Yeah, something like that. No, I've been meaning to go. How is it? It's not bad. It's a little it's one of these places that it's in the Millennium Tower, which is a huge was I guess condo complex in San Francisco. Yeah, and that's the Tower of Death right? No, no, no. That's the Rinkin Tower. No, I thought the tower. Oh, no, no Rinkin Tower is up on Harrison. That's the that's the Tower of Death next to the Bay Bridge. Now, this is the Millennium Towers.

01:38 So it's kind of a loft feel to it, but it's like, you know, it's one of these places where, first it's not cheap. So, and you know, it's one of these top-of-the-range type loft style places. It's, who's it done by? It's one of those famous dudes who put this one together. It's Mina. Mina, yeah, Mina. And the music is just a little bit too loud. You know, Mina lost both stars for Aqua. They just came out. I saw the stars had just come out. No, I can only see... Yeah, no, Mina lost his two stars at Aqua had undeservedly. But you know, I guess somebody finally figured that out and boom, they gave him, pulled the plug on him. And then he lost one of his stars for the Michael Mina restaurant in the St. Francis, which I don't think is deserving of a star either.

02:27 It looks like... Because they pull the bait and switch on me with a wine selection once it still irks me. So this RN47 is supposed to have the great wine selection, which I did not sample at all. Because of course I didn't have my wine bitch there to select an appropriate bottle. You can always call. But so the food was good, I'll have to say. I had a pumpkin soup. Which was really nice and of course in season. And then I had to have this. It was jumping out on me on the menu. Liberty Farm Duck. I'm like, yay! Liberty Farm Dock! Yes, Liberty Farm Dock! The incoming! I was like, yeah, that's perfect. It was really good. But just the ambiance is just too loud. And they've built it like a train station. And it was funny because I'm sitting there and we kind of had the Hollywood table at the very end, which was really, it's even quieter than the rest of the place. And I kept hearing this

03:23 like what the hell is that noise and I realized we're sitting underneath the schedule board which is an old-fashioned you know like in a train station where the numbers and the letters actually flip over yeah and it's cool I mean then the it's nice give me so what is it out what's on that what's on the board what does it say does it have a menu on it no it has no places you're going to but you're not going we're not really going this is a scam And it's like if you've ever sat in the train station, this is one of the places you don't want to eat ever So I'm not quite sure how it relates to fine dining, but it's a theme Well before we continue the show I want to announce our executive producer for this week's show

04:07 There's actually two people that we could give kudos to, but we'll bring up the second one who's a new knight later. But the executive producer is actually Sterling Ellsworth, who came in with $77.77 and he made a note that this is the sixth time in a row he's given this money. So one more time, right? Then we'll never hear from him again. Wait, wait, wait. One more or 77 more times. We don't know. No, after the next time, only 70 more times. because the right answers that's cool though i mean the guys definitely been uh... been uh... been donating a lot and it's highly appreciated so he is the executive producer of uh... episode one hundred and forty two of no agenda it's almost like you can uh... put an episode of lost on your resume if you're the executive producer you know you say episode like now so did you know you know you got the others the others are coming that would be the episode title

05:07 So wait until you see the show posted then you'll know what the episode title is and then you can put that on your resume Yeah, and we vouch it totally anything you send us will sign unread so It's not a blank check with my name on it Okay, where do you like to start John bank failures swine flu? Afghanistan drug running Let's start with something light. Okay? There is and I have a clip nice So it seems as though Fox and the Obama administration have gotten into a pissing contest. Yeah, this is kind of weird. And you know, I think our take is the same, John, that this is just a huge distraction. You can't get it any better to distract the public from

06:00 from real news than having the news guys arguing with other news guys about news guys not being news guys because the president said so. I mean it's just my mind is like... Yeah, I know it's actually quite humorous but meanwhile and I don't know if they're doing this on purpose because I don't see how these people can afford these ads but they're running on Fox specifically on Fox the following ad you can see it on there uh... the obama uh... mention uh... i think we should play it to commemorate the inauguration of our forty fourth president with a well-known american icon introducing to to to to you know obama this to you know obama is a special edition and collectors item just spread the seeds water and watch it grow

05:07 So wait until you see the show posted then you'll know what the episode title is and then you can put that on your resume Yeah, and we vouch it totally anything you send us will sign unread so It's not a blank check with my name on it Okay, where do you like to start John bank failures swine flu? Afghanistan drug running Let's start with something light. Okay? There is and I have a clip nice So it seems as though Fox and the Obama administration have gotten into a pissing contest. Yeah, this is kind of weird. And you know, I think our take is the same, John, that this is just a huge distraction. You can't get it any better to distract the public from

06:00 from real news than having the news guys arguing with other news guys about news guys not being news guys because the president said so. I mean it's just my mind is like... Yeah, I know it's actually quite humorous but meanwhile and I don't know if they're doing this on purpose because I don't see how these people can afford these ads but they're running on Fox specifically on Fox the following ad you can see it on there uh... the obama uh... mention uh... i think we should play it to commemorate the inauguration of our forty fourth president with a well-known american icon introducing to to to to you know obama this to you know obama is a special edition and collectors item just spread the seeds water and watch it grow

06:55 Your Chia Obama is a symbol of liberty, opportunity, prosperity, and hope. Chia Obama makes the statement, I'm proud to be an American. Display it on your desk, in your home, at your school. to school show pride and support with Chia Obama get your collectible Chia Obama and with this special offer order two Chia Obamas and shipping and handling is free call toll-free so you know both Mickey and Christina when they first saw this because this has been running for quite a while on Fox they both thought it was a spoof that it was a spoof ad and I'm like no no it's like a real ad but the more I hear it

07:38 The more I'm thinking there's got to be some huge organization behind this who has actually just set this up as a spoof. And they're actually shipping them out obviously because it's real. Yeah, no, the thing that's got Yes We Can carved into the side of it is a stupid looking thing. You can get two versions by the way. You can get the pensive looking Obama chia or the Yes We Can Obama chia. There's two different kinds. And anyway, they're running this ad on the O'Reilly show, which is the most expensive of all these Fox News programs. It's also my understanding that along with the Snuggie, this is the first or the second most successful product being sold in the United States at the moment.

08:20 You know, it's pretty unbelievable. I went to the Seattle airport recently and there's a they have this cute Shopping, it's called fireworks or something like that. They have all these trendy little things and they have a whole bunch of Obama stuff They have Obama dolls Obama actual Obama action figures and then they have this one that which is Obama I was gonna buy him and give him to you as a gift, but they're like they're like $7 It was just wasn't I just you're not gonna spend seven bucks on me No, I'd spend seven bucks on you not but not for a little little bitty can of mints. But it says on the can it's Obama mints and then on the side it says yes we can D. Oh man. That's pretty bad. So this brings to mind a question that I'm not quite understanding what the heck's going on here because

09:09 Doesn't Obama have rights to his image even if he's the President of the United States in so far as commercial products are concerned? And doesn't he, shouldn't he be in touch with one of these licensing bureaus and be getting a piece of the action? Well yeah, you're presuming that he's not. I am presuming that he's not. No, I'm presuming that he is. I'm presuming that he's not because somebody would have uncovered the deal. I can't believe for a minute that someone hasn't written about this, well Obama, and what does he get? I mean, because I get the sense that people are just doing whatever they feel like with the Obama image and they're just cranking stuff out and nobody hears from anyone. I'm not thinking that. I would think that as long as it's not disparaging, I bet you can get away with anything and it's highly encouraged by the administration. I bet the moment you do a product

09:59 That is a, you know, a... Oh, like the Obama-Chia? Oh, that's totally cool, dude. That's... Dude, this is our culture. This is the country of the pet rock. What the fuck are you talking about? Yes, we candy. I mean, come on. Yeah. It's all a part of the mind control. It's good. Think about the inherent benefits to the administration of the Obama-Chia. You're displaying it at school, which by the way, that's huge. To even say display it at school, whereas there was such a ruckus over the president doing a speech to the students of the country, now you want to display this thing at school?

10:43 No, I'm pretty sure that they're okay with it. It's all a part of the cult of personality, which is what the setup is. I'd like to find out for a fact instead of just suppositions. Now, I think the thing that would sell to a lot of people would be Obama marionette. I like it. Let's do it. Now you too can control the most powerful man in the universe. Watch him dance. And you can make the mouth move and have little... Healthcare, healthcare, healthcare. Healthcare insurance reform. That's cool. We could certainly make... why don't we just make the commercial? Maybe somebody out there will be glad to make a commercial. I'm sure someone would make that. It's the Obama marionette. Now you two can own a piece of history. Now you two can be Rahm Emanuel pulling the strings from above. Yes we can. Yes we can. I like it. The Obama marionette. You know, we should at least... why don't we should write the copy for it? I mean, think about all the cool things you could say.

11:46 Now this ancient art form comes to your living room. Right. Loved in China. Now this ancient art form practiced in China for many years with all of our presidents. I like it. Then you have to have some little kid saying stuff, you know? Yeah, make a note and eat it, please, so that we actually do that. That is too funny. That's a good one. What else? Well, I mean, there's a lot.

12:28 Well, the thing, I guess the top of the news in terms of using the public is the, you know, one of our last ditch efforts to get people to start taking the swine flu thing is the national emergency. Somehow it's become a national emergency. By the way, the death count is a thousand, so I think that's worldwide. which is about a good nine, you know, it's I mean normally in the US alone we have 36,000 from seasonal flu. So this is not performing well. Well so there's a couple of very specific things about this national emergency and I think we have different types of national emergencies. This is actually the kind that the exact same form of emergency that was signed just before Katrina hit.

13:15 It's usually used for hurricanes and that type of natural disasters. And what it enables the health secretary to do, our friend Miss Sibelius, is to do a couple of special things such as set up other triage units outside of hospitals to treat patients. and also get federal funding for it. So I think the rule is if you, so let's say you don't want all these people who are puking and moaning and groaning, you don't want them in the hospital, so you can set up tents on the lawn and as long as, and without this emergency proclamation, you can have tents within 250 square feet.

13:57 uh... feet of the hospital itself and federal funds can still be appropriated towards it now with this they can move it as far as they want and of course i'm thinking fema camps that's the place to put the fuckers and uh... and the other part is uh... you won't uh... the hospitals won't have to go through the rigorous uh... forms that you have to fill out the can basically just say what's your name and then they can treat you that's what i understand this to be about well it could be But I was thinking this, yeah go ahead. I just don't see them lined up, you know all these sick people lined up, people go home, you know they get the sniffles, they go home, it's a short-lived flu. A good flu lasts five days. But this is also the thing, if you watch television, which I desperately try to avoid, you kind of get the idea that you know even the the flu.gov and

14:52 is reporting widespread swine flu and it's all, you know, it's 46 of all 50 states. You know, by the way, which ones aren't so I can go move there. And you get the feeling that, you know, that all these people are dying and I'm just not seeing it in my vicinity. I'm just not seeing it around me. I'm not seeing it. Yeah, so we probably have on any given day four or five people out of, you know, so maybe 7% of our workforce at MeVeo is ill. You know, okay, that's with any type of flu season you can expect that I'm not seeing a whole wonder though how many people are you know, just staying home? They're like, oh, I feel I don't feel good. I'm gonna stay and you get the email. I think I've got the slide flow. I love those emails. Hey, I woke up not feeling too good working from home today. I hate those.

15:42 You know what, if you're sick just be sick and shut up about it. Sick is sick. Don't give me this working from home. Don't work. If you're sick, don't work. Please, please get better. Don't work. So yeah, I'm not seeing it either. Although, I've had this ongoing conversation and she finally blogged about it and actually undertook action. Our friend Molly Wood over there at CNET She actually twittered, she said, yeah, hell yes, I got my son vaccinated. Sorry, Adam. Like, you had to do that. And she says, sorry, Adam, like you're the one guy who's telling him not to do it. And she wrote this huge blog post and, you know, of course, everything that

14:52 is reporting widespread swine flu and it's all, you know, it's 46 of all 50 states. You know, by the way, which ones aren't so I can go move there. And you get the feeling that, you know, that all these people are dying and I'm just not seeing it in my vicinity. I'm just not seeing it around me. I'm not seeing it. Yeah, so we probably have on any given day four or five people out of, you know, so maybe 7% of our workforce at MeVeo is ill. You know, okay, that's with any type of flu season you can expect that I'm not seeing a whole wonder though how many people are you know, just staying home? They're like, oh, I feel I don't feel good. I'm gonna stay and you get the email. I think I've got the slide flow. I love those emails. Hey, I woke up not feeling too good working from home today. I hate those.

15:42 You know what, if you're sick just be sick and shut up about it. Sick is sick. Don't give me this working from home. Don't work. If you're sick, don't work. Please, please get better. Don't work. So yeah, I'm not seeing it either. Although, I've had this ongoing conversation and she finally blogged about it and actually undertook action. Our friend Molly Wood over there at CNET She actually twittered, she said, yeah, hell yes, I got my son vaccinated. Sorry, Adam. Like, you had to do that. And she says, sorry, Adam, like you're the one guy who's telling him not to do it. And she wrote this huge blog post and, you know, of course, everything that

16:31 that is like, oh, all these cynical people and we're all going to die. She points to everything prisonplanet.com and everything that is... Oh God, that works. Yeah, but everything is like, well, it's clearly not true. And then she points to factcheck.org. I'm like, anyone who uses factcheck.org as their absolute truth should be on the board of Wikipedia. So anyway... So did Molly get a shot too? No, even better. And I have high respect and I love Molly to death. I don't think there's any reason we can't slam her. I'm not going to slam her, but she's an excellent...

17:16 specimen of the mind control that has been exerted upon the populace because she actually wrote, you know, I'm not getting my swine flu shot just yet because I want, because we don't have enough so I'm gonna wait until other children and pregnant mothers have had theirs and then I'll go get mine. What a thing to post! You should read it! I'm above it all! Oh man. I was just like, oh boy. All righty then. Did you know by the way, and one of our producers sent this to me, there is an excise tax on the swine flu vaccine? We were talking about excise taxes. There is? Yes. What a scam that is. We're supposed to be making the public healthy, not finding another excuse to tax them. Well, check it out.

18:09 The title of this document is like, and this was released in, it's form 720, which was revised in April of 2009. And this taxes on weird shit, right? I think we probably knew this, like air air shafts, certain types of air shafts. There's excise tax. So the vaccine tax, very interesting. So this is IRS number 97. A tax is imposed on the sale or use of a vaccine manufactured, produced, or entered into the United States at 75 cents per dose if it contains, and then it has

18:50 a whole bunch of like diphtheria, toxoid, tetanus, so basically every single vaccine that is out there if it's against measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis A, the rotavirus, gastroenteritis, or the human papamala virus, so the HPV. So essentially, you know, this is like, the scam is so incredibly clear. We get, you know, it's like, okay, healthcare industry, Bio big pharma we're gonna we're gonna help you push this agenda through for giving boys antiservical cancer vaccines boys and and then we're gonna charge you and it also says right here if it is a trivalent vaccine against influenza and then

19:38 Here's how they do it though, and this is kind of cool. If any taxable vaccine is combined with one or more additional taxable vaccines, then the tax is imposed on each vaccine included in the combination. Example, MMR contains three taxable vaccines, measles, mumps and rubella. So the tax per dose on MMR is 3 times 75 cents is $2.25. So there's like a huge tax on this vaccine thing. So when they produce the 100 million doses that amounts to about 70 million dollars or more. Yeah, little more. Yeah, 75 million dollars. Not bad. No, not bad for a day to walk in the park. But all this, you know, there's also something called a lust tax, which I don't quite understand. Lust? L-U-S-T.

20:32 Lust attack on inland waterways fuel use so must be some kind of fuel thing. You know if people really realize how many how many tag how much we are actually taxed. Oh dude i'm telling you tax 10% sales tax 10% state income tax. tax, personal state income tax 10%, 10% sales tax, 20-30% federal income tax, gasoline tax, excise tax here, excise tax there. If you go to a hotel, you spend as much in taxes as you do for the room. If you go to the airport, you're being taxed, taxed, taxed. There's a million taxes. The $49 ticket comes out to be about $65.

21:09 which means twenty bucks an hour or so in taxes you know we're paying we must be spent doing you know we are you people are we are low taxes in the united all shit that's ball so the air transportation taxes They even have taxes for charter flights and they've raised them of course. These have all gone up and they charge it per flight segment. Here's an example. They even provide examples, handy examples. In January 2009, Frank Jones pays $265.20 to a commercial airline for a flight in January from Washington to Chicago with an intermediate stop in Cleveland.

21:48 The flight comprises two segments. The price includes the $240 fare and the $25.20 excise tax. Which is 10%? Over 10%. No, 7.5%. It's $240 times 7.5% plus $2 times $3.60 for which Frank is liable. The airline collects the tax from Frank and pays it over to the government. So the airlines are basically an extended arm of the IRS. Yeah, and also they're tax collectors. And aren't the airlines already paying tax on their fuel? And if they make any profit, income tax.

22:24 Oh, the fuel taxes. They're paying taxes on the fuel, they're paying taxes on their profits, and then they're collecting bogus taxes from us, and that's all, if you count that as additional, because it's being passed to you. I mean, the taxes that they're paying to the government for profits is, you know, just added into the fare, so you're paying that too. I can't imagine, I wish somebody out there would actually, because I heard a guy go through a bunch of these taxes once in some talk show. Didn't we have a producer who was working on that, trying to get us the true taxable tax rate for American citizens based upon all this stuff? And he kind of went away, he went off the radar I think. Anyway, use of international air facilities, there's a $16.10 per person tax for flights that begin or end in the United States.

23:15 There's also attacks on communication and air transportation for use of local and teletype writer service. I mean, it's crazy. It's crazy. Particularly if you're using a teletype writer. What are they doing with all this money? They're just giving it to bankers. I mean, I can't believe that this is going on. Here's the thing that kills me, because this happens because I do all these shows like Cranky Geeks and things before that. And we would be in a discussion and someone, invariably, one person somewhere, well I think they're going to have to raise taxes or I don't think it's a bad thing because we can afford it. No taxes anyway. There's people that actually advocate, as far as I'm concerned, if the word tax is in the conversation, I'm against it.

24:01 Because I realize that we're already taxed to death and so why would you want to add to the burden? I wish somebody would give us a number. It's got to be 70% plus. Close to it. Last night dinner was 9.5% state tax and then another 2.5% tourist tax. Dude, I live here. I'm not a freaking tourist. I got to pay a tourist tax. Oh I never knew that in San Francisco there's now another 2% so in other words you're paying 12% tax on top of an 18% tip? No I gave 10. I don't give 18. It's like I'm sorry I can't afford your tip because of the taxes. Let me just get back to the marketing of the vaccine. I'd like you to take a look at this link that I'm sending you, John, from MLB. That's Major League Baseball. You can join the I've Got the Flu Vaccine Sweepstakes! Yay! And get your free tickets to Game 4! Look at the link. Yeah, I see it. And then our friend... I've Got the Flu Vaccine Sweepstakes?

25:04 No, no purchase necessary because it's free! I guess you get a shot and then you get registered for a game four or something like that. Yeah, your odds of winning are extremely lousy. Yeah, if everyone gets it. So Sibelius was pushing this thing on school kids and they have a beautifully animated cartoon with a little song that goes along with it. Now seeing the animation is really... and this is on the White House website, whitehouse.gov. And the animation is just fantastic, but I want you to listen to the lyrics of this song because it is just freaky. We're ready to roll Stopping that virus. That's our goal. So come on everybody. We're getting the shot. It might hurt a little bit Just a little bit But it's gonna help a whole lot Let's get the shot Johnny! This vaccination is a great opportunity Yes it is Yes it is To do something for yourself and your family

26:01 Yes it is, yes it is The virus won't spread if we don't let it Lock your sleeves and come and get it! If I don't get the virus, I won't give it to you If you don't give it to me, I won't give it to her That's true! If I don't get the virus, I won't give it to you! Hey, we're ready to roll So the end is actually worth it, it's coming up So come on everybody, we're getting the shot It might hurt a little bit Just a little bit But it's gonna help us Now you see they're actually administering shots into these kids arms Isn't that the most actually thing One of the things by the way someone who knows how to administer a shot. It doesn't actually hurt at all No, you don't feel this little pinch maybe you know, no even did I've had people that you wouldn't even know this you what done Yeah

27:13 experts, but of course they're having pharmacists do these. That's disgusting. It really is. Let me just read from the blog post. On Thursday, October 21, students, parents and educators from the Washington, D.C. area joined Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius for a screening of a of an episode of the animated series Sid the Science Kid. So of course now they're also making it science, you know, just like Al Gore did with global warming, you know, the science is in, there's no disputing the science. So this was hosted at the Department of Education, they watched Sid and his classroom friends as they learned about the flu and visited the school nurse to get vaccinated for influenza. And I'm thinking, you know, how come we haven't had this type of a drive for other vaccinations?

27:59 you know, for stuff like MMR as an example. I mean, the push is so hard and to me, if I just look at the grand scale and on the last episode of No Agenda we looked at the pipeline for the four big pharmaceutical companies, in particular GlaxoSmithKline, and the pipeline is all about vaccines. It appears to be the future of big pharma is in vaccines. They've got an AIDS vaccine, which of course probably doesn't work, Probably. You know they've been pushing the HPV vaccine which unbelievably this anti-cervical cancer vaccine now also being approved for boys you know who don't have a cervix as far as I know. If you haven't noticed although. Yeah you never know. It's just like

28:49 Wow, you know, this is it and people say, oh, you're an anti-vaxxer. I'm not. I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I do think that the idea that kids get 20 to 30 vaccines before they can like walk just seems wrong. You know, there's just too much going on here and I guess this is the future of health care is don't worry it may hurt a little bit but it'll help a lot go ahead bend over bitch and take the shot and that's gonna save us all from everything but it's I don't know. Well it's gonna provide a lot of tax benefits. Well yeah, the tax benefits are clearly there. Orowitz just sent me a note that says

29:40 supposedly massive orders for body bags on the hush in the in the Northeast. Oh really? I mean there's always there's always you know the body bags and the plastic coffins and all that stuff. I think that's just a you know you want to it's probably not that much on the hush if he knows about it he lives in Florida. And let's face it it's Horowitz. What does that mean he's thinking to himself? He's listening on the iPhone by the way. I didn't know we can get the stream on the iPhone. Yeah, yeah, you can. We have this like three iPhone apps that you can get from the iTunes store.

30:18 We need to get, do one official one. But anyway, I think this is a form of mind control that goes just beyond anything I would have expected out of our government. It goes way too far. It's gone way too far, but I don't think it's that, I mean it's kind of effective. I mean it obviously affected Molly Wood, who actually went through the work. I mean if normally, if somebody like for example, listening to you go on and on about something, and then you with some critique of the system and the way it works. Normally people, I think, and I think the average, not the average listener to this show, but the average American would either gonna go, yeah, I'll get one or I won't get one, and I can go into the kind of detail that requires them to start doing research on the internet.

31:02 The thing is you get to the research on the internet and if you go to flu.gov, you know, they've got these big things, you know, big FAQs and big reality check stickers and logos and refuting everything that, you know, that certainly that we've brought to light. And the crazy thing is if you read, and this is such a red flag, let me go to flu.gov, if you go to flu.gov and you go to the FAQs and right at the top there is one of our main... Oh shit, hold on a second. One is that it was about the adjuvants. How come they changed it? What, they change this site every single freaking day? So there's a question about adjuvants. Hold on, I really want to get this. I'm sorry.

31:57 Crap they make this stuff so difficult to understand Oh myths and facts here it is straight talk about the flu and you can you believe the latest? So here it is the here's the question the h1n1 vaccine includes adjuvants such as squalene And then here's the answer. None of the H1N1 vaccines currently distributed by the US government contains adjuvants. So the word currently is important. That's the key word, yeah. That's the bullshit. So and then all H1N1 vaccines used in the United States are licensed by the FDA are made in the very same way as seasonal influenza vaccines are made. Currently, seasonal flu vaccines in the United States are also made without adjuvants. Then right underneath it, if needed,

32:41 Hello? If needed, an adjuvant is a component that can be incorporated into a vaccine to help to generate a stronger immune response to the vaccine and help prevent disease. Bullshit! Squalene is a compound found in many natural sources such as olive oil that can act as an adjuvant and is used as an adjuvant in vaccines in many countries. So, you know, they're setting you up right there. They're saying, yeah, right now there's no adjuvants, but it's coming. The evaluation of any vaccine by the Food and Drug Administration considers the safety, effectiveness, and the immune responses and includes consideration of all components of the vaccine. So, essentially, they're saying it's not in there right now, but if needed, so what does that tell you? If needed. They don't say why it might be needed. I know, it's just a vague kind of thing.

33:37 And I just don't understand all the... You know the CDC releases their V.I.S. statements, their vaccine information statement and they say no one under two should get this yet on flu.gov they're saying hey if your kid is six you know no problem and you hear pregnant women shouldn't get it and then oh pregnant women should get it. Bad shit is going to happen and it's already happening in Sweden. There's tons of people getting sick at least as being reported from the vaccine. Have you been tracking this John? Not at all. Nope. Let me just find it here. Yeah, there's like a hundred people already taken ill. I think a couple people died. Here goes. People are dying of the vaccine in Sweden.

34:27 Of course a lot of these reports are unfortunately in Swedish. Makes it rough. Makes it a little rough to actually check the truth in the summer. You know the thing, you think there may be, I don't want to sound like the crackpot here, but you'd think that at some point in history like ten years ago we would have had the kind of tools and massive computing power that could actually do reasonably good machine translations. But that's never happened. And every time a good translation program or some superstar comes up with a good translation program or a guy, I've met some of these guys to actually understand how to do it right. They all get bought up by some conglomerate and then the product just disappears off the face of the earth. I can't tell you how many translation products have disappeared. So I'm not sure what type of vaccine they are using in the kingdom of Sweden but I do have a couple of links here to Swedish articles with the translations

35:26 for you in English and you'll find that in the show notes at noagendashow.com. So, suspect death because of vaccine. These are crude translations obviously. Suspicious deaths of vaccine medicines agency is now... vaccines medicines agency, I guess it's the health services, is now investigating a death in which a a Hjortstuk patient fell ill with chest pains and died one day after vaccination against the swine flu Here, two people die soon after vaccination. Two seriously ill people have died after being vaccinated against swine flu. So I don't know if they were already ill. This was a 55 year old. Stronger side effects than other vaccines. Another Swedish report. So, you know, Sweden is definitely reporting something. There seems to be something. We're reporting nothing. Everything's great.

36:22 Or, as we like to say, don't look over here. Nothing to see here. Look at that. There's one other theory that I really liked about the swine flu. You know, I've been looking for the bank holiday when of course everything closes and the banks are shut and that's when the dollar collapses, which is kind of the way it happened in the Great Depression. We need that and all the conspiracy theorists and fellow crackpots are all looking for the bank holiday when it's all going to happen. And then it kind of dawned on me, there's two things that could take place. First of all, the banks could shut down because they are petri dishes, just petri dishes of swine flu I tell you, shut all the banks.

37:11 That would not be outside the realm of possibility. Yeah, you'd have to shut down sporting events first and they're never going to do that. Well no, there's too much money. But you know, that would be like putting TSA on trains and subways. I mean, that would be too crazy. Terrorists don't actually attack those except in England and Spain. But wouldn't it be interesting if we had to get rid of paper money because you know... Oh that's a good one, I like that. I could yeah yeah I get it because paper money is covered with germs. So I think we all should go to plastic money. No more paper money for you. You need to use your debit and Visa card. Well actually now that you mention it, you have to take it one step further which is if you remember they've already preconditioned us for these new credit cards that don't need to be swiped

37:54 They've got an RFID chip in them and you just have to hold them near the device and sucks up the numbers. Which would also be a beautiful way to kind of fix a lot of this, a lot of our monetary base problem. Just get all the money in circulation out of circulation. Keep it all on the computer where it's all completely manipulable. Yeah, well let's put it this way. Thank God for the Chinese and the mob. Why? The Chinese are cash oriented and they're not going to put up with this crap and the mob is hey, it's a cash business. Yeah, yeah. Well,

38:36 Take a look at this picture, John, which I'm going to send you a link to right now. This came out yesterday as an official state portrait of the Obamas. And I'm looking at this and I'm saying, what a piece of crap. Who decided to take this picture, there's doors open in the background. Now the Obama family looks beautiful, they look fantastic there in the foreground. But you know, it's like it's in the green room or whatever and it's like there's no flags, there's no nothing, it's just that, you know, like three chairs, they threw them down. You know this was done by the famous photographer Annie Leibovitz. Annie Leibovitz! That's what blew me away! This is an Annie Leibovitz picture? Like no way! This is crap!

39:17 And you know what's funny about that? There was some, I was watching CNN or one of the channels and they were, and they when this picture first came out and they went, it's an Annie Leibovitz, Annie Leibovitz, Annie Leibovitz, what a beautiful picture. I've never seen anything like it. It's the most beautiful picture ever made. It's a piece of crap. And it's not the Obamas look great, but you know there's there's no no lighting I mean for any Leibowitz I mean I know she's hit on some hard times But man that she had to just a stoop to this to make this crappy piece of shit This is not as I'm embarrassed for my country for this to be the state portrait of the first family. I'm truly embarrassed It's horrible

39:58 I think you've made your point. By the way, play the swine... we're over with the swine flu discussion, hit the theme. Yeah, okay. You know, I got bored with it. You caught me off guard. I was still fuming about Annie Leibovitz. And she took it on a Canon EOS 1. Yeah, great. You know, it's like that what happened to you know, she'd be using like one of those what are those? What's that that big expensive camera called a hassle blast? Oh blad. Yeah with a digital back That's what she should be using. No instead of that. She's using a Canon EO. Yeah, I don't something's very wrong with that Maybe she had to sell her hassle that blad to pay taxes my favorite new Congresswoman has got to be Alan Grayson

40:48 So that idiot from Florida? I'm liking this guy more and more. I really am. Did you see him grill the attorney for the Federal Reserve? No I didn't, I missed that one. Did you tape it? Yeah, hold on a second. It's funny. So the Federal Reserve ever tried to manipulate the US stock market? So there's almost no one there by the way in whatever committee this was and he's asking and this lawyer, I mean, you know I've had lawyers, this would not be my lawyer. I'd be like, okay, you're a wimp, get the fuck out, you're not representing me. So this is supposed to be the head counsel for the Federal Reserve and Grayson is grilling him. It's a Grayson grilling.

41:28 on if the Federal Reserve has ever manipulated the stock market. Now of course we all know the answer, but listen to this weasel guy who just can't seem to get out of it and Grayson I have to say is really grilling him and I like it. No sir, not that I'm aware of. Not that you're aware of, but you're the attorney right? That's right. So you might not even know right? I would expect to know if there were something like that being done. I'm not aware of that at all. And if you did know, you'd be bound by attorney-client privilege and you wouldn't be able to tell us, right? Sir, if there were something the Federal Reserve were doing outside its legal authority, I would have an obligation to say something about that. All right, so we agree that any participation by the Federal Reserve in the stock market or the futures market is outside the Federal Reserve's legal authority, right?

42:18 The Federal Reserve has some authority to regulate various aspects of markets and participate in markets in certain ways. So I think your question is too categorical. I think not, actually. Why don't you answer it? I don't know what would – I don't know – your question is so overbroad. I don't know where to begin to answer that. I don't think it's that overbroad. I just like – the guy's demeanor is funny. You got to admit. The guy is a laugh riot. It's like a five and a half minute clip but the two main things that come out of it is, hey can we audit the gold? Is all the gold on the Fed's balance sheet actually in the Federal Reserve? And the guy says yeah. So can we audit that? The guy says yeah I guess you could.

43:03 But the big thing is, he's saying, okay, so how does the Federal Reserve participate in the markets? And then he goes into, yeah, well, for interest rates and jobs and all this shit, and it's about the front running. And of course finally the attorney has to admit that JP Morgan Chase is actually executing trades for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which of course is a major part of the Federal Reserve. So it's interesting though. I'm liking this Grayson guy. He's a Democrat. He's just kind of kooky and he dresses kooky. And he smiles in that evil kind of way. And he's new, right? He's new to the game. Yeah, and they're trying to shut him up. The Democrats hate this guy. That's, well, maybe that's why I like him. Well, it could be. He's cool. Yeah. He's cool. I mean, he's amusing. I find him amusing, but he's also full of shit. I mean, I've heard him do stuff that's just like, what are you, what are you, crazy?

43:58 So I don't take him too seriously, let's put it that way. So my prophecy is coming true, although not entirely my own. Of course we know about the Trilateral Commission and the entire concept of having a European Union, an American Union, and an Asian Union, and then bringing those three together into a one world government with one huge central bank and one central world government. And we're getting pretty close to the North American Union with Canada and Mexico and the United States. And in Thailand, just yesterday, Asian leaders pledged to overcome their differences and push towards the formation of an EU-style community as they wrap up their annual summit in Thailand. Actually today. So there you go. They're going to build the

44:49 Association of Southeast Nations which already exists of course and they're going to make that into its own political and economic community by 2015. So then you will have your trilateral. Yeah. And this is... What about the poor saps in South America? Don't they get a piece of the action or Africa? Yes, not. No, the African Union already exists. But they just need to shut up and sit down and just give us your minerals. South America is going to have to form some giant country. Like they're not giant enough already? Well, I'm just saying there's... I mean the way it's working, you know, there's still, you know, you still have Chile is by itself small, it's very small. And Peru is by itself, it's not that big. Ecuador. A lot of these countries hate each other though, it's kind of a problem. Which is also a problem, by the way, in the EU, which is going to result in a civil war. That's my prediction. Yeah, I think that's... You might be spot on about that. And it'll be kind of par for the course, right?

45:56 Yeah, no, it's just another version of the French hating the Germans. So why don't you play the guy that, this British guy who wrote the book... Oh, I saw this. Obamaland? Yeah, I had to edit this way down because I didn't realize until I listened to this interview that Beck is one of the world's worst interviewers. Because the questions can't be scripted. He actually has to think when he goes to ask a question, so he's got like bullet points or something, some version of that on the project. Yeah, well the guy wants to, the guy's jumping in, jumping in, and Beck is goofing around, making jokes, you know, and the guy's got a lot of good things to say. I cut most of the Beck stuff out of the interview because he just, it was like,

46:40 It was like I got about three minutes out of this interview and the thing went for at least 12 minutes is mostly Beck goofing around I mean he's talking about you know, he's making jokes and puns and yeah, well at the same time He's sympathetic with this guy's point of view, but I thought the guy had a few really interesting things to say about England It's so funny you say that because I watched this this interview and I didn't know about the book and I have ordered it although I've lived the book and because, and you probably have it in there about the trash bins. Yeah, that's at the end, I have that too. I won't give that one away, but this does completely come back to my assertion that Europe, and actually in particular the United Kingdom, is the beta test for what we're about to go into here in the United States. Which is what this guy's thesis is. Yeah, I guess.

47:28 But for how long? Here's James Dellingpole, author of Welcome to Obama-land, I've Seen Your Future and It Doesn't Really Work. James, welcome to the program, sir. Hey Glenn, thanks for having me. And by the way, the guy looks so freaking goofy. Yeah, he's great. He looks like he should be on The Daily Show. Yeah, he really... For a moment there you were watching the guy like, is this a joke? Is this like part of the... We're gonna see the Obama Chia Pet ad next or what is this guy? But he's serious. Sure. Do you watch this program over in England at all? By the way, that is... What a... I mean, like he doesn't know that Fox News is available on Sky.

48:07 you know owned by uh... by the owner of sky means uh... glenn beck is your dis jockey man stop it yeah we're quite a bit big fans of the women and the fox and and and president obama is a big deal i don't know if you know what you're getting into here over the over here um... i know you're a you're a wild and dangerous guy yes i know it's crazy okay to talk to you about is, you say you've lived the Obama plan, you've seen our future. Tell me a little bit about the future. Yeah, I am like your Nostradamus because what you're experiencing now in America, we've been living for the last 12 years first under the Obama prototype, the grinning monkey Tony Blair, and secondly under the aging Politburo chief Gordon Brown. I like that comment, the Politburo chief, that was good.

48:57 And we've experienced socialism and this is what's going to happen to you I'm afraid. By the way, the fact that he's calling it socialism kind of bummed me out because it's really it's a different form. It's corporatism. It's not really socialism. Yeah, which is fascism as a matter of fact. It is. And I wish that people would get that straight. that it's fascism, corporate, you know, maybe corporatism is a little softer word to use, but it's not really socialism. We're having problems because they're now saying, there were these two women that were like, I'm gonna drop my son or daughter over to your house and then they get on the bus at your house, etc, etc. And the state came in and said, you can't do that, that's a daycare.

49:34 You have rules for carpools if you're going to take a bunch of kids to school, right? Yeah, we have kind of a pedophile czar over here now more or less, where there are 11 million adults in this country who have to get checks done on them. They have to pay 70 pounds I think it is, they have to submit to this six month bureaucratic process, scoutmasters, anyone Anyone who works with kids, anyone who takes them around in a bus, they have to be checked before they... This was reported on no agenda. We talked about this if you recall, John, that this was the new rule that was set into place. If you were going to be involved with more than two kids, not your own, then you have to go through this check to make sure you're not a pedophile. So if you've got to drive the kids to the football match, you have to go through a check.

50:20 Indeed. I'll tell you one thing about fox hunting though, since they banned that, the fox hunting, dude, there were foxes everywhere, on the street, during the day these foxes are walking around. They're vermin, they're no good, they're evil, dirty and disgusting, and dangerous.

50:59 Yeah, they are dangerous that really there's foxes all over the place. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely Why they instituted fox hunting as a as a hobby in the first place. It was probably culturally necessary, of course No, oh the poor foxes we can't kill the foxes Red for danger, amber for kind of worrying, green for eco-friendly, organic and nice and healthy. Get to the bins. In Germany they had similar health warnings, you know, like Coca-Cola was considered unsuitable for the kinder in Germany. It's the same over here now. and I think you should all be very very afraid of the cap and trade bill. The porculus package was a rehearsal, the Cairo surrender monkey speech was a rehearsal, the Obamacare was a rehearsal. The really bad thing, the thing that's going to ruin your lives in America is cap and trade. Over in Europe it's done.

51:52 Yeah, because the EU loves the idea of cap and trade because it's a way of imposing super national controls over sovereign nations. You know, you have unelected officials declaring how much carbon business is allowed to produce. So, you know, you have no control. over these unelected officials. They increase your taxes, they increase regulations. You know, we now have sort of spy devices in our dustbins, in our trash cans as you call them, in order to monitor how much waste we dispose of. This all comes from the European Union.

52:29 And that is absolutely true. They have little devices and they determine the weight. And they've actually, they started out first by giving people smaller, they call them wheelie bins, smaller trash cans. So they reduced the size. And you can't just put a trash bag out on the street. It has to be in a bin. And you can't have more than, I think, two bins per house. Put your shoes in a bin. Yeah. exactly and it was in combination with this which I think it was maybe Friday show I think or Thursday or Friday show and I don't see it every single day but I did catch this in combination with and I can I know what you're gonna was how you're gonna respond John but I actually took the time to watch it all two and a half hours of the new Alex Jones documentary the fall of the Republic

53:14 And I would encourage anyone listening to NOAgenda to actually, if you can sit through it, because two and a half hours is too long for anything. That's the mistake that Alex Jones made, is this thing is just too damn long. I forced Mickey to watch it. and actually I didn't have to force her at all because after 10 minutes she was like huh? huh? and essentially every single clip you've heard played from C-SPAN on this very program he has amassed into two and a half hours interspersed with some interviews of which the best I think is still Max Kaiser and there's a couple other you know Gerald Cilente which is you know the kind of kooky people

53:54 the spur of the news sprinkled throughout uh... this is documentary but what's cool about it is you literally see president obama Then as candidate Obama saying, you know, there will be no signature statements, signing statements on any bills that come through Congress and then boom, you get a report of his first signing statement. You know, transparency, boom, no transparency. Bills will be online, boom, bills are not online. You know, all this stuff, we're going to do away with this and then he actually ups the ante. So it's a very good, because it's C-SPAN and if you don't know what C-SPAN is, you kind of don't even know what the hell you're looking at.

54:30 But the point of the Jones documentary is indeed the global warming or climate change as it had to be renamed because of course it's actually cooling and not warming. That is, I have to agree, is probably the worst thing that is coming down the pike here and that is where we will be totally enslaved for essentially breathing. Yeah, well I'm not going to get any argument from me. And it's upsetting when you think about it. Although there are some good reports that less and less people believe that... Well, you know, this by the way, I think it was Pew or one of these guys that came up with the fact that the numbers of people that are buying into climate change has really decreased by a lot. I think it's going so fast and now I think it's best to put somebody in a panic mode to just ramrod some stuff through before they can't get anyone to agree to it.

55:30 So I think we're going to see real action. Yeah, well it's kind of scary though because when you look at some of this video of Al Gore and how he gets into people's face, if you, you know, of course you're not just someone who doesn't believe that climate change is really what they say it is, you are a denier, you know, of course equating you to a Holocaust denier. Yeah, well that that denier thing kind of backfired. I think it was a little scary Here number of Americans who believe in climate change drop survey shows only 57% of Americans feel the planet's atmosphere is warming That is a fall from 77 percent two years ago And that's from the the Pew study that you referenced there John so it's still 57 percent But you know there's there's

56:24 It's so hard when people are so hypnotized by the media. And by the way, 16% of all news coverage in the past week was about Balloon Boy. Seriously, 16% of all news coverage was about Balloon Boy. Doesn't that just tell you right there that something is incredibly wrong? So you've got a lot of people out there who are trying to spread some kind of alternative message And we do a lot of work on that. Here's John cutting down, I mean first of all the pain of having to sit through Glenn Beck's show. John, I'm humbled in your presence of not only doing that but then going to edit it. This is a Sunday morning, it's the Church of No Agenda, we're sitting here, we're doing this and we don't take ads, we don't want to be interrupted, we don't want to have to deal with the fricking Obama chia every 30 minutes.

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1:02:20 and actually select a stream manager. The problem there of course is there's so many qualified people who have sent in their resumes that it's kind of hard to choose. Yeah, we're going to have actually two. We have to have two. We have to have a backup guy, so at least we'll have two guys. And I'd like to welcome all the CEOs of Sequoia Capital Companies who are listening to the program this week. As Jason Calacanis, who we talked about on the previous show, about his email to the internal mailing list about swine flu, he just sent another... he pounded the list again, John. He's a spammer, that guy! Yeah. Here's the message. Self-described crackpot Adam Curry rips into my OCD over swine flu on no agenda minute 78. Some fair points.

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1:03:59 From an article when I read it, I was like, huh, this is kind of what I wanted to talk about on the show on Sunday. And here it is in more or less a national public, well certainly it's on the internet, international. And this is kind of a throwback to the bombing of the moon bases, which we got a lot of response to. Yeah. An official announcement By the Obama administration, disclosing the reality of extraterrestrial life is imminent. Wait a minute, there's that one and the other one to follow up to this by the way is the announcement of the anti-gravity device. You keep saying that but when I start flying over your house you'll shut up, alright? Oh yeah. I'll remain mum. For several months senior administration officials have been quietly deliberating behind closed doors how much to disclose to the world about extraterrestrial life.

1:04:56 dissatisfaction amongst powerful institutions such as the US Navy over the decades-long secrecy policy has given a boost to efforts to disclose the reality of extraterrestrial life and technology. So, and then the article is interesting because I think probably what the guy did, and this was written by Michael Salia, PhD, I might add, You know, there's a lot, you know, I travel in certain crackpot-ish circles and there's, you know, all of this stuff is pretty much what I've been reading as well. So here we go. Over the period February 12th to 14th, 2008, the United Nations held closed doors discussion where approximately 30 nations secretly agreed upon a new openness policy on UFOs and extraterrestrial life in 2009.

1:05:44 uh... the openness policy was implemented but never publicly announced it with threats against u n diplomats and there's all links here to uh... uh... you know two different sources that uh... would explain where this uh... with these assertions come from and of course uh... a lot of references to coast-to-coast am which you know you may or may not listen to that you may or not men may or may not believe in it however uh... this is what i've also been hearing that uh... the plan is Either the end of 2009 or early 2010, official disclosure will most likely emerge in either one of two scenarios. One is President Obama will announce the existence of extraterrestrial visitors and describe one or more of these to the world. Or, or, shut up, an announcement will be made concerning the discovery of artificial structures at the moon's south pole as revealed by the LCROSS mission.

1:06:40 because of course you know they actually did what happened was the reason why we didn't see any debris is they tried to bomb this moon base but they bombed one of the bigger buildings and that's when you know it went right into it and so there was really no big big dust cloud or anything and so you know Obama being you know be heading up the Security Council of the UN goes right along with with this because of course you know we have to not be afraid of the extraterrestrials And in the even in the spiritual circles there's talk of of this happening very soon And if you and if you look around at the reports and they're always laughed and scoffed at there's enhanced activity in UFO sightings around the world that that is undeniable whether they're true whether the sightings are real or not there it does seem to be a lot more reporting in alternative news and of course not well unless you want to count balloon boy

1:07:33 And of course we can thank ABC and Disney for all this promotion because V is coming out shortly within a few weeks and we want to bring our awareness up. And the movie 2012 is hitting theaters so you know it's obvious we got to be prepared for it. But if it happens John wouldn't that be wicked? What would happen? I would be wicked. But wouldn't you just have to eat some crow? Yeah sure. I got a lot of crows around here by the way I wouldn't mind shooting one and eating them. So I had a, I had, I had this, I come into the house the other day and I walk up the back steps and this huge red-tailed hawk takes off from the deck. He was sitting there. He ate a seagull. Oh no!

1:08:19 Yeah, I mean he ate the whole bird whole. He attacked it? He killed it and ate it. Geez. And you saw this? No I didn't. I only got to the end of it and the entire deck is covered with seagull fur and feathers. Oh I'm saying it's time again for John C. Dvorak's famous pulled pork. So uh... Alright let me give you a couple of real quick ones and then we should do another one of your clips. In the continuing amazement about what is actually going on in Afghanistan, and you'll have to go to the show notes at noagendashow.com, the Boston Globe, I guess, the boston.com? I think that's the Globe, yeah. They have pictures of our

1:09:10 Service men and women in Afghanistan. So for this beautiful high-res pictures, you don't see a lot of that actually from Afghanistan. So first you see a C-17 dropping military supplies and then these military supplies drop into a poppy field. And then the next picture is, you know, so a whole bunch of pissed off Afghan farmers saying, yo dude, like you dropped your shit on my poppy field. And the caption here literally says the Marines are promising to pay him for his damaged poppy crop in compensation for the accident. Wow. Yeah, it says it right there.

1:09:46 It says it right there. And the Marines are just kind of standing there and you know, it's like I don't understand. Aren't we supposed to be eradicating the poppy fields? Isn't that a huge problem? And of course, John, you and I know that that's actually not true, is that we're there to protect the poppy fields. But when you see this picture, it's like, you know, literally, oh dude, I'm sorry, man. We didn't mean to mush your crop. And then, uh, classic. Yeah. And then NPR has nobody picks up on this, right? No. Well, the Boston, well, no, the Boston globe just reports it, but it's not even like, excuse me, what's going on. And then here's a report from NPR, uh, that it looks like, um,

1:10:36 In Kandahar and other provinces, they're really upping the cannabis production. Yeah, here let me read you something from a report that came out. This is one of these government reports. This is a report on the report. In the first half of 2009, according to the report, military operations destroyed more than 90 tons of chemicals used in the production of illicit drugs, 450 tons of opium poppy seeds, which by the way I wanted to talk about, 50 tons of opium, 7 tons of morphine, 1.5 tons of heroin, and 19 tons of hashish, and 27 laboratories, which are shacks mainly. So when did they, we didn't even know about the hashish.

1:11:15 And hashish is nothing more than the oil that you pull off of the cannabis plant. Yeah, it's kind of just a concentrated... it's a goo. Yeah, it's... what do you call it? Yeah, goo. It's hashish is what it is. It's hashish. It's not like a hashish plant. You know, it comes from the same plant. Yeah, it's dope. Now, wait a minute, here's the thing that's interesting to me. They destroyed more than this, they destroyed more than 450 tons of opium poppy seeds. Now, why would they do that? Opium poppy is 450 tons, by the way, of seeds and you know what a poppy seed weighs? Yeah, I mean the 450 tons, you could fill up Giant Stadium 20 times with that before it weighs 450 tons.

1:11:59 You could, but the thing is it's a nutrient and it's used in pot, you know, if you have a poppy seed bagel, those are the poppy seeds that are used. And this is actually food. So they've essentially... It's food. It's food. You're right, you're right. So they've destroyed 450 tons of food in a starving area. See, these numbers don't make any sense. Yeah, and where's that report from? Well, this came out of... This is actually from last week, so I probably lost the beginning of it. This was a... an article that was in, I think run by Reuters. but it was about a government report, it was just a report of a report. Well, you're right, the numbers don't add up and I think we should just stick to our assertion that the military surge is all about protecting the poppies for the harvest which is coming up and by the way, NATO has now decided that it's a good idea to send more troops so of course that's just backing up McChrystal's, Lithium Crystal's plan there to send in more troops for the harvest

1:13:01 And someone else sent us a map of where all these camps are. And again, these camps are surrounding the poppy fields. and they're just not destroying them. Look at the pictures in the Boston Globe, just look at the pictures, they're not destroying them. And isn't it convenient that now the marijuana production is being upped in Afghanistan and since we got all these planes flying the opium over anyway, might as well throw a couple of bales of weed on there. Isn't it convenient that now in California all of a sudden nationwide the feds are relaxing the rules on medical marijuana? Isn't that convenient? Well, they gotta do something. I think it's just, of course, eventually they figure it out so they can tax the stuff. Well, yeah, and I'm all for that, but why don't you just be honest about it, legalize it, and get our freaking troops out? We can grow poppy here. It would be great! Grows everywhere. The stuff's amazing. And it's one of the prettiest plants you've ever seen. And it's food! And there's food. It makes food. It makes food! Sheila Bear.

1:14:03 is the chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and she has a message John, a message of hope. and a message of self-assuredness. You do not have to be worried. You do not need to run on your bank. Everything is good. Enjoy your shopping experience, please. Here is her message. I'm Sheila Bair, chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. By the way, she's wearing a red jacket. So you know she's important in the administration. She's in the club. She's in the club, yeah. As we pass the 100th bank failure of 2009... I love it. Hey, as we pass... you know, only 100 banks of 2009 have failed, so let's talk about that.

1:14:43 The FDIC has been receiving more public inquiries about deposit insurance and how it works. And of course we know that they've already announced they're going to be borrowing money back from the banks in order to fulfill their obligations, but listen to how she explains it and you tell me if these numbers add up, John. I want to take this opportunity to reassure consumers that their insured deposits are absolutely safe. In fact, as long as depositors are under the insurance limits, their money is fully protected no matter what happens. This has been the case through each and every failure this year and will be the case in the future. Throughout the FDIC's 75-year history, no insured depositor has ever lost a penny of insured deposits and none ever will. There are about 800 banks in this country. Some banks continue to face serious challenges, but the overwhelming majority will weather this economic storm.

1:15:39 There are many signs that our economy is recovering and as the economy heals so will the banking system. Until the healing process is complete there will be more bank failures. You know there's a lot of psychological shit in there when she talks about the healing process. That's disturbing language. The healing process. We've been hurt and the healing has to take place. However, the number of failures we are experiencing is significantly lower than those the FDIC has handled during past crises. For instance, in 1989, during the height of the so-called SNL crisis, 534 institutions were closed.

1:16:21 Depositors should understand that the chances of their bank failing... She's actually mixing the numbers there because I think it was 180 banks but now... so the 100 banks that have failed does not count all of the branches, all of the individual offices. If you count that, it's like 2,000. And here she's saying with the savings and loan, it was 500 but that was including all the branches. So she's mixing up the numbers. ...are low. And even if their bank does fail, depositors have nothing to worry about. The FDIC fully guarantees their insured deposits and provides them with seamless access to their money. For the insured depositor, a bank failure is a non-event. People sometimes ask about our financial resources and where we get the money we need to protect depositors.

1:17:09 Our resources come from insurance premiums which are paid by the banking industry. Now that makes sense, right? That's the way it's supposed to work, right John? The banks pay insurance premiums and that money is stored up and that's supposed to be kept and that's used in case there's a problem, right? That's the way it works. Okay, well let's see how it actually works. We also have substantial authority to borrow from the U.S. Treasury Department. Which means, isn't that from like the taxpayers? Yeah. Okay. Should the need arise. We are the government and I'm sure... We are the government. You have nothing to worry about. Please enjoy your banking experience. You will obey me. Insurance guarantee is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government. Yeah, that's rich. It's backed by the full faith and credit of the United States government. In short, we cannot run out of money. Bank failures do cost money and those costs have recently been high. What is the point of this? Well, I want you to listen to how she's bullshitting about

1:18:05 Where the money's gonna come from? I thought we already knew that. What I'm concerned about is this big nurse style that she exhibits. Well, of course, it continues. Defunded reserves have declined. Our resources run deep. At the end of the second quarter, our total reserves... Why does she have to go on and on? Why does she... It's over. What is the point of all this? Is she like giving coded messages to somebody? This has gone on by at least 15 seconds too long already. You don't want to hear the rest? Well, is it any good at the end? Because I'm already getting annoyed by the length of it. Oh, I like the fact that you're getting annoyed. Let me continue. So that over $42 billion, we review the adequacy of those reserves every quarter and make adjustments as warranted.

1:18:47 Based on our cost projections, we have asked that the banking industry prepay three years' worth of insurance premiums, which will bring in another $45 billion by the end of the year. It goes on? Oh yeah, it goes on for another minute. Who is she supposed to be talking to? To the people who are concerned. She's just confusing with a whole bunch of bullshit numbers like 42 billion, 45 billion. I don't think 100 billion dollars covers all the deposits up to 250,000 dollars in all banks of the United States of America. I don't think that covers it. Yeah, well it covers all the ones that are going broke maybe.

1:19:24 But whatever the case is, it sounds like a bunch of horse crap anyway. And then she, well she winds it up, and I'll spare you, she winds it up by saying, we have a line of credit with the Treasury for half a trillion dollars. No she doesn't! That would mean we'd have to raise another half a trillion dollars in taxes. And just at the end, I just have to, let me play the end for you. I mean, it's just so, the wrap up is beautiful. It can be found at myfdicinsurance.gov. MyFDICinsurance.gov. You have a personal portal for your world of the FDIC. Let me say again, no insured depositor has ever lost a penny of insured deposits and none ever will. The FDIC was created specifically for times like these. Our resources are strong and your insured deposits are absolutely safe. Thank you.

1:20:26 Please enjoy your banking experience. Everything is okay. is epitomized by this Advere commercial and I want you to run the commercial and then I'll tell you what you'll figure it out. I've had asthma for 12 years. Six years. I've had asthma forever. I never knew why my asthma symptoms kept coming back. Or that I could help prevent them in the first place. The problem was that my controller medicine was treating only one main cause of asthma symptoms. But there are two, airway constriction and inflammation. Unlike most controllers, ADVER treats both main causes. ADVER treats both main causes.

1:21:15 And that helps prevent symptoms in the first place. Advair contains salmeterol. Salmeterol may increase the chance of asthma-related death. So Advair is not for asthma that's well-controlled on another controller medicine. Advair will not replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be taken more than twice a day. Talk to your doctor about the risks and benefits of Advair. If you take Advair, see your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. If you're still having symptoms, ask your doctor how to help prevent them with Advair. Get your first prescription free and save on refills. Advere. Now you know. Okay. So there's this technique they're starting to use. I find it kind of interesting where you don't have a spokesperson anymore. You have a myriad of people from various walks of life, each one of them throwing in their two cents worth. So there's an appeal to a broader proportion of the viewer.

1:22:09 In this case, you've got a black guy, a Chinese guy, a Mexican woman, a haughty black woman, an easygoing practical black woman, a cool dude, a white chick, a black... And they each have bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. And so it sounds like it gives you the impression that for one thing, everybody's united in this one single thought. It's the united colors of Benetton. Exactly what it is. Yeah, but there's two things that bother me about these commercials. At Mevio we have Nutrisystem now as a sponsor on programs except for this one. And the amount of legalese and legal things we have to adhere to

1:22:54 set up by some covenant with the FDA is unbelievable. And the one thing you definitely can't do is you can't have someone say, hey, you know, this really changed my life, unless that person has absolutely gone through the program and it changed their life. And the people in these commercials, to me they're just actors and I don't know where the disclaimer is, but they seem to be getting away with a lot of shit that smaller companies can't. Does that make any sense? Yeah, there was a uh... There's a lot of research, there was a whole special on this, on how these ads for drugs became so popular because somebody tried it once and they discovered that they, initially you couldn't mention the drug without the disclaimer so they just started being vague about a drug without mentioning it and its sales went from something like 400,000 a year to 80 million or something. And just on vague assertions.

1:23:54 And so everybody's gotten into the act. So they have studied this to death and they've gone over the line. I'm totally convinced that yeah, there's probably a bunch of requirements that these guys have gotten around. For one thing, if you look at this, the technique of having all these different people speak, they're just short, vague generalities about nothing. and then they have the one spokesperson come out with all the disclaimers and then they jump back into a series of just kind of jump cuts, visual and vocal jump cuts that don't really connect to anything. There's no real story being told in any traditional sense. I don't know. Here's the thing, John. We're not learning from this. This is the thing that's dumb. We're not learning from these tricks

1:24:42 and we're not applying them to our own programming. We need to have a United Colors of Benetton commercial for No Agenda, and it needs to go viral. And we need to have it running right after the Chia Pet commercial. How about the Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak Chia Pets? I mean, we're really not playing this well. And we need a mantra, just like, yes we can, yes we can. The people of the world are... You don't think in the morning does it? I will obey No, you know it's it's like whenever someone when people are watching television they get these messages uploaded to them like work like we're computers and we're completely open to all of this message this messaging and We should be able to do something with that. We should be able to use the same brains that are swallowing up all this bullcrap and program them differently and

1:25:39 Don't you think? Well, yeah, it would be nice. We're not that good. No, it's clear that reason doesn't work. We've got to come up with some other way to do it. We're failing. We are totally failing. Well, in case you didn't know, the only thing we do know how to do is apply our formula. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. And it doesn't seem to be working very well. We're not hitting hard enough. We've got to hit a lot harder. Alright, let's wrap this up my friend. Well, let me play one more I got one more clip that would be kind of wrapping these because I've been fought You know, I'm trying to keep up with and I have them all backed up. Don't tell me the czar the czar. No No, we'll save that one. Okay

1:26:20 This is shorter. The show Admin, which is a very interesting show to say the least. If you can follow it, I don't recommend people getting into it late. You just won't get it. What show is this? Admin. Admin? Sorry, Mad Men. Oh, Mad Men. Yeah, Mad Men. I've been watching Mad Men. So I think the one thing that makes the show interesting is this ice queen, this beautiful ice queen wife for the main character. Yeah, that's Draper's wife. Yeah, Betts. Yeah. And Draper's wife. And I think the whole show is summarized by this quote from her that I pulled off the show from about two weeks ago, two or three weeks ago, which to me was her in a nutshell, and actually kind of summarized the show.

1:27:07 Here we go. What's wrong? I hate this place. I hate our friends. I hate this town. That's the whole show. That's the whole show. I hate this place. I hate our friends. I hate this town. I've seen her in some other stuff and she's, you know, she's kind of, yeah, ice queen-y in Mad Men. She's smoking hot when she unties her hair and she kind of looks hip. Yeah. Yeah. She's a pretty good actress, but she plays this character that is just like, wow, can you imagine being married to somebody like this? Yeah, no wonder you had Draper screwing around. Unbelievable, but anyway, that's so you don't want to you don't want to do Ron bloom I think it's funny just because his name is Ron bloom. Okay. Well Ron bloom, but this is a clip that I this is an out-of-context clip. I don't know where it came from And I don't know what he's talking about. Well, everyone's everyone's using it I mean if Fox everyone's playing this clip because it shows the guy's just a you know, a hater of capitalism and he's our manufacturing czar and

1:28:09 What wasn't he in charge of GM for a moment there? I thought that they put him in charge of GM and then they and then they took him off and they turned him into the manufacturing czar. That could be I don't know I don't I didn't I should have done more research on the character But it's just this it makes you shake your head when you listen to him. Oh, sorry Generally speaking we get the joke We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market, or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money because they're convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults only, no limit game.

1:27:07 Here we go. What's wrong? I hate this place. I hate our friends. I hate this town. That's the whole show. That's the whole show. I hate this place. I hate our friends. I hate this town. I've seen her in some other stuff and she's, you know, she's kind of, yeah, ice queen-y in Mad Men. She's smoking hot when she unties her hair and she kind of looks hip. Yeah. Yeah. She's a pretty good actress, but she plays this character that is just like, wow, can you imagine being married to somebody like this? Yeah, no wonder you had Draper screwing around. Unbelievable, but anyway, that's so you don't want to you don't want to do Ron bloom I think it's funny just because his name is Ron bloom. Okay. Well Ron bloom, but this is a clip that I this is an out-of-context clip. I don't know where it came from And I don't know what he's talking about. Well, everyone's everyone's using it I mean if Fox everyone's playing this clip because it shows the guy's just a you know, a hater of capitalism and he's our manufacturing czar and

1:28:09 What wasn't he in charge of GM for a moment there? I thought that they put him in charge of GM and then they and then they took him off and they turned him into the manufacturing czar. That could be I don't know I don't I didn't I should have done more research on the character But it's just this it makes you shake your head when you listen to him. Oh, sorry Generally speaking we get the joke We know that the free market is nonsense. We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market, or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money because they're convinced that there is a free lunch. We know this is largely about power, that it's an adults only, no limit game.

1:28:49 We kind of agree with Mao that political power comes largely from the barrel of a gun. And we get it, that if you want a friend, you should get a dog. So I mean that's a non sequitur right in the middle of the whole thing and the whole thing is like what is he talking about? I have a feeling because I've seen this YouTube clip and you never see what comes before it but even when he says you know you could interpret the I get the joke in a couple of different ways and what you know that those words preceding what he says

1:29:25 about uh... free market you could actually say you know he it could be a totally cynical thing he's saying it's it's a little too out of context for me to actually be able to the i feel the same way it was a little difficult and people out there should feel the same way to buy getting a hold of us and then the agenda show dot com and the work that org slash in a just to remind you to uh... for donations we do we did come up a little short number of donations this is the last uh... this last uh... duration i would like to do with a couple of yet and We have enough listeners to actually be able to make this really really work You know if if all of our listeners gave us five dollars a year we'd be we'd be set. You know I could quit the day job you could actually eat pulled pork twice a week and We'd be good to go so you and I John have really got to come up with with some better Vision of how we move this show forward because I'd really like to make some big changes in 2010

1:30:24 The new year I'd really like to get the stream up and running, have multiple shows, I'd like to expand. You're already doing a cool show with Andrew Horowitz which really focuses on the markets. I think we could build out a little mini industry that we could at least do it full time. And I'd really like to work on that. I just don't understand How we can motivate our growing audience to really everyone just country and it's like people say I don't have a job You know, I don't care. Send me five bucks. You got five bucks

1:31:05 Yeah, which is basically parking fee in San Francisco for like 20 minutes. I mean seriously, take a look at what you're spending this week. Just look at anything. It's one trip to Starbucks. One trip to Starbucks. And we're not trying to get rich here. And we're not rich by any... In fact, if anything, we're middle class, upper middle class, and we're being targeted just like everybody else. Yeah, for bogus taxes. Taxes, yeah. Taxes on everything. I probably have a, eventually try to put a streaming tax. Oh well, you know, and by the way, we kind of got to hurry up doing this because if you've been following the FCC and their net neutrality sham that they're pulling off, oh brother. Have you been following that? This guy, who is this? It's like Harry Potter is running the FCC. This little jabroni. And he's like, and he's just like laughing and eeeh.

1:32:04 And by the way, I don't think Google is our friend in this. I'm not so sure that they're the good guys in all of this. But whenever I hear that the few big ISPs that are around, that they will be able to manage their network traffic, it's like, okay. So net neutrality, yeah it's for real. And by the way, where is the whole debate on net neutrality? The minute people online can't change their icon to a different color to support net neutrality, then no one participates. You're all too busy freaking twittering about Balloon Boy, you bozos. And now it's really taking place right in front of your eyes and there's in this really nefarious vague language. You know my website devorakuncensored.org You're blocked by all kinds of ISPs. I'm blocked in parts of Russia, I'm blocked by most corporations in this country.

1:32:53 I've been unblocked because every once in a while someone said, well yeah you're blocked in my company. I said who's doing it? It's always some little middleman that they've hired and they just block stuff for no apparent reason. Yeah, Vodafone does this in the UK. They block all kinds of stuff and the only way you can get it unblocked is by registering. You know, curry.com is blocked everywhere. I went from a Google rank page six to a four thanks to all the blockages. And that's not net neutrality. And that's not being addressed or discussed anywhere. No, I bring it up and it goes yeah, somebody explains it well it's because of the such and such. Then they stop talking about it. I mean the only guy who ever brings it up is Leo and he only talks about it just to give me the needle.

1:33:42 And then the one other thing I want to just mention is you know Hulu has now announced that they're going to charge fees of course Murdoch has been the big man on campus talking about closing down the news sites We're not giving it away anymore and what I find interesting is Many people are saying, oh, this is the end of democracy. This is the end of free news. Everything will be controlled. I'm like, this is great. The less stupid balloon boy shit people will be copying and pasting, the better. So maybe the signal to noise ratio will finally straighten out a little bit. I'm really happy. Please, every publication, and I'm looking at you, Wall Street Journal, please, everyone, close your doors, make it for pay service, and go away.

1:34:29 Give us more room, give us more bandwidth slash attention value to actually bring some interesting information. I don't need to access the Daily Post. Balloon Boy. Balloon Boy. So, on Thursday we'll find out what they've made up this week to distract us from the real news once again. And the countdown. to the meeting of the extraterrestrials is on. Our president soon to announce... Maybe that's what District 9 is all about. Maybe it's prawns. Prawns? Go for some prawns. I'd like to eat the head off a prawn. Alright. Noagendashow.com for the show notes and an opportunity to donate to this program and you can also do that at Dvorak.org slash N-A.

1:35:32 And coming to you from the minimum security containment cell housing the crackpot command center in Gitmo Nation West, I'm Adam Curry. And from what looks like a sunny day in northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak. We will be back here on Thursday, same streaming channel, more or less the same time, on No Agenda.