Episode 1409 · Monday, 20 December 2021

Viral Blizzard

Global leaders implement emergency holiday lockdowns as the Omicron variant disrupts professional sports and triggers a coordinated federal response against dissenting epidemiological declarations.

By The No Agenda Show | 2h 57m listen | 48 chapters
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The No Agenda Show · No. 1409

About this episode

Dr. Michael Osterholm and President Joe Biden warn of an impending winter of severe illness as the Omicron variant triggers a viral blizzard across the United States. While Governor Kathy Hochul reports record case numbers in New York, the Radio City Rockettes cancel their season and the NFL faces major scheduling disruptions. This surge coincides with a coordinated effort by Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins to execute a published takedown of the Great Barrington Declaration.

International restrictions intensify as Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Hugo de Jonge impose a strict Christmas lockdown in the Netherlands. In the United Kingdom, London Mayor Sadiq Khan declares a major incident due to staff absences in emergency services, while Ireland implements an 8:00 PM curfew. Meanwhile, Pfizer reports that two doses of its pediatric vaccine failed to produce a sufficient immune response in children under five, prompting trials for a third dose. In the courts, Ghislaine Maxwell declines to testify in her sex trafficking trial as the defense rests its case in Manhattan.

Vice President Kamala Harris clashes with Charlamagne Tha God over the influence of Senator Joe Manchin, leading to a tense exchange and the subsequent resignation of aide Symone Sanders. John C. Dvorak shares his specialized home recipe for pickled turnips involving apple cider vinegar and dill. The program also deconstructs the mass formation psychosis theory and critiques Scott Adams for his reliance on Google-curated data to dismiss Ivermectin studies.


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CHAPTER 01 / 48 Discussion

Pickled Turnips, John C. Dvorak's Homemade Recipe

John C. Dvorak describes his process for pickling turnips at his home in Northern Silicon Valley. He explains that he uses a recipe involving apple cider vinegar, water, salt, garlic, and dill, noting that the turnips should be aged slightly to soften before the pickling process.

pickled turnips· apple cider vinegar· fermentation· silicon valley· breakfast

00:00 She might as well have a mustache. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday December 19th 2021 this is your award-winning Kibbe on Nation Media assassination episode 1409 This is no agenda Debunking the debunkers and broadcasting live from the heart of Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region number 6. In The Morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley where i am enjoying an international taste treat very unknown called the pickled turnip. I got to tell you there's nothing I love more in the morning than a pickled turnip

00:43 Did you really just eat that this morning? I had a pickled turnip after breakfast, yeah. I pickle my own turnips obviously because you can't buy them... I pickled my own turnips last night but that's a different story! Anywho... Pickled turnips interesting. I didn't know it was a thing. Yeah, pickled turnip. I first had a pickled turn when i was little kid. I was living in when I was like pre-kindergarten and I remember them And I always thought they were good, so I spent the rest of my life trying to duplicate this woman's recipe for pickled turnips. You have to cook the turnip first right? No! Really?! Turnip is so hard! They're not that hard but they soften up but it's a little better and they're not as hard if you let them kind of shrivel a little bit in other words get old

01:37 And then they're kind of soft, not to the point where they're brot. Yeah like the one you'd actually throw out instead of cooking it? You probably would...you might want to throw it out. Oh! You had a couple of hits and glitches But what... Oh, sorry. Yeah you were glitching. You might want to throw it out but you slice them up in different forms and do all kinds of things and half apple cider vinegar, half water about a tablespoon of salt some herbs dill is always good in there. My god man think of a cooking sub stack

CHAPTER 02 / 48 Discussion

New York COVID-19 Legislation, Kathy Hochul Criticism

The discussion turns to the political climate in New York regarding new COVID-19 legislation. Governor Kathy Hochul is criticized for the strict nature of the bills being sent to the legislature, with comparisons made to historical authoritarian figures regarding the state's mandate policies.

kathy hochul· new york· legislature· mandates· vaccination

02:13 I would pay money for this. And buy me also some garlic, need garlic. Yeah, I would pay money for your sub stack if you put more recipes in there it'd be very valuable. Anything to get rid of me? Nice try Curry! No nothing-I don't want to get rid of you are you kidding me?! The highlight of my week twice a week no less So we have a great end of show mix, which I'm not going to play now. But Tom Starkweather put together this thing about New York... He's in New York so he gets to do these clips easier than we can Just insane but- That's all they talk about in New York is their situation Oh! We're all vaccinated but were all sick It's town is sick The Democrats running the state of New York got the stuff they are trying to pass

02:55 the bill's going to the legislature. It's disgusting and Hochul might as well have a mustache! You mean, a brush stache? One of those little ones? No, a mustache like either Stalin or Hitler moustaches. That's right, a brush stache one of those little brush staches Yes, well that may be true and we'll hear that at the end of the show but I think in California The local Fox affiliate Fox 5 San Diego. Oh my goodness They're pretty good to medical experts are sounding the alarm once again as the Omicron variant and the Delta variant are hitting San Diego after the Thanksgiving holidays

CHAPTER 03 / 48 Discussion

San Diego COVID-19 Surge, Omicron Variant Projections

Medical experts in San Diego, including doctors from Sharp and UCSD, warn of a "surge on a surge" as the Omicron variant begins to spread following the Thanksgiving holidays. Officials project that Omicron will become the dominant strain within weeks, potentially overwhelming local hospital capacity.

san diego· omicron variant· delta variant· ucsd· hospitalizations

03:41 It's a surge on a surge and a surge. You know what that is? Science! Science is what that is. Surge on a surge... It's the Surge 3, people After the Thanksgiving holidays A surge upon a surge upon a surge We can absolutely expect this to get worse Externational means every couple of days everything doubling and so in just a few weeks we're seeing it take off Doctors from Sharp, Reese, Steeley and UCSD are warning those who are not vaccinated to get protected as fast as possible And for those with two shots to get boosted if it's time. Three is now the new two. Experts from UCSD say the Omicron variant is most likely making up 20% of new infections and will likely become the primary virus in just a matter of weeks

04:31 This virus is this contagious, it's just everyone's going to likely experience it. And the volume that we would see of our unvaccinated folks would overwhelm our hospitals again." If you're unvaccinated, you can't expect that you will be significantly protected from this new variant if you've had an infection with COVID in the past San Diego County health officials have announced just a handful of confirmed Omicron cases but doctors from Sharp and UCSD say the community spread is happening as we speak. Oh my goodness I'm tired from just listening to that report! That pooped me out it was it was Joe, it's uh...

05:09 With three is the new surgeon a surgeon of search for in the show I have a couple of good ender show ISO surgeon a surgeon asserts The other one. I really liked was three is the new two now that's a beauty but Yeah, well I thought you're too far. I want to play the kovat classic ooh a covert classic Okay no no other intro straight to it Classic. I just heard from a friend in New York City today who did that last week this is someone with three shots and has had prior COVID so he's about as immune as you can get and he felt badly yesterday tested himself this morning, it was positive Yeah baby! I wanted to say something because we'll get to in a second the Netherlands went to hard lockdown again hard lock down

CHAPTER 04 / 48 Discussion

Family Disputes, Vaccine Mandate Hardships in Italy and Texas

A personal anecdote describes a sibling group chat where family members in Italy and the United States clash over vaccine mandates and Texas abortion laws. The conversation highlights the "mass formation" phenomenon, where individuals struggle to empathize with those facing hardships due to government restrictions.

italy· texas· abortion law· vaccine mandates· mass formation

05:58 And my sisters, we have the sibling chat group and my sisters are bitching about it. Oh that sucks! I said, yeah you know there's a it really kind of sucks when you have these mandates where you couldn't even go to let's say a service for your loved one or funeral and stay in that place where it is being held. Or eat there at the restaurant and they're like what are you talking about? Oh! I said like me when we go to New York you know to put my dad into the ground he says I won't be able to stay in New York City because of the mandates oh by the way I can visit my daughter

06:35 And what, and my sister Willow went right to well you know Texas they had this law where citizens can sue each other over you know ratting on abortion if you do an abortion. I'm like okay nice deflection but it's part of the mass formation. What is that got to do with anything? No because she deflected this is my point She could not wrap her head around anyone else in the on in a different situation So then they have mandates and Italy says I'm all for mandates or no. No, I'm against mandate she says but Whatever it is I'm pro vaccine But I don't think people should be forced to see ya but it's happening in Italy too Yeah so but do you not realize what kind of hardships that brings on people?

07:24 And they had not even considered it, even for their brother. So by that very same... Heartless bitches! No they're not. That's what you just said? No in fact I took a lesson from it and I want to remind myself that we have many producers who've been forced into the vaccination accepting the vaccine into their life some have done it voluntarily And all the things we discuss here, just so we're clear there's no evidence that anyone who has taken the shot into their life is going to die of a heart attack. But these things in fact are very small chance it's a lot of people it's more than ever but its small

08:08 So I do have that in mind, you know and then so if it seems like we're mocking those who are vaccinated obviously we are. Just as an aside the stats are that the amount of athletes that are having heart issues and dying in fact on the field of play is 5x normal Finally in the UK they're asking questions like hey can can we have a little research into this? How about some research? We can't have that. We have the rat poop police out there, the health department people they're telling us what to do they know

CHAPTER 05 / 48 Discussion

Netherlands Christmas Lockdown, Hugo de Jonge Press Conference

The Dutch government, led by Prime Minister Mark Rutte, imposes a stringent Christmas lockdown to combat the Omicron variant. During a press conference, Health Minister Hugo de Jonge admits that officials do not yet know why a booster shot of the same formula will stop the new variant when the initial doses did not.

netherlands· mark rutte· hugo de jonge· omicron· lockdown

08:53 Actually I should probably do this clip real quick. This is from the BBC about the Dutch Christmas lockdown... Let's speak now to the BBC's Anna Holligan in the Dutch city The Hague and, Anna why has the Dutch government done this reimposed a stringent lockdown. An absolute last resource, the Dutch do not like chaos this is one of the most organized societies in the world... It's one of the most criminal countries in the European Union what are you talking about lady? Organized crime! Oh that's right I'm sorry yes but you know what she's correct the Dutch like everything organized, including their crime.

09:42 restrictions were introduced just on Tuesday. These were unanticipated but they feel they have no choice basically because of the surging cases of Omicron, the government's critics say well this is actually partly their making because of this low response to Delta variant which has allowed the hospitals to become so busy plus the slow rollout of the booster vaccine because here, the over 60s are only just being invited forward for their jabs. Just to explain more about those new rules so over Christmas people will only be allowed two house guests a day So this really is a Christmas lockdown Only four guests allowed on Christmas Day itself The schools are now closed until at least 9th January

10:26 The Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rousseff, who you heard there... understanding that people do not want to hear this. He's quite conscious that there have been riots here in the Netherlands, in various cities, in response to these repeated rounds of restrictions and people are frustrated because they were told this time last year follow the rules get your vaccines and this will all go away and yet here we are again entering into another lockdown just before Christmas So the Dutch health minister ie the Dutch Fauci his name is Hugo He was asked a question by the journalist. They always do this on an evening around eight o'clock they do the oh it's a Corona, Corona conference of Presco, Presco, Corona Presco!

11:13 And the question was asked, the reporter said I'm translating freely but i speak it fluently. So you're saying that the booster is the same formula as the regular vaccine? Yes I am and so this new variant this Omicron variant it's the same but it has a different jacket is how its described. It looks like there's different jacket around it he says so why if these two vaccines of the same formula don't stop, why will a third stop? Why will the booster stop it?" And the health minister literally said good question we don't know. Well at least he's honest. Unbelievable! By the way the reason for the Dutch lockdown is well-known BBC they even have a song

12:03 And the whole country was singing it, and well for a little bit there. And it goes as follows... We're doing this for de zorg! We're doing this for de zorg! We're doing this for de ouderen! We're doing this for de zorg! I will translate now we're doing it for health care. We're doing it for health care. We're doing it for old people. We're doing it for healthcare So that's what they've been sold Healthcare is overflowing when you do it for the healthcare system just like the NHS in the UK So, you know, Christina is devastated. They had all kinds of stuff lined up for the first week of January work gigs all kinds of stuff Nope forget about it done so well done and it's the same variant we have in the US and were not locked down yet Yet? Well they're gonna have a hard time especially with this Omicron thing locking down even though

CHAPTER 06 / 48 Discussion

Michael Osterholm, Viral Blizzard Prediction

Dr. Michael Osterholm warns of an impending "viral blizzard" caused by the Omicron variant, predicting unprecedented changes in public health over the coming weeks. The hosts criticize the cautious nature of public health departments, characterizing them as detrimental to society.

michael osterholm· public health· omicron· viral blizzard· epidemic

13:07 And I have a series of clips when you're ready from NPR trying to scare the public with Omicron. Oh yes, let's play those! I got a quickie first from Dr Death himself... From the Devil of Doom Osterholm just to get us in the right mood for this scary clip from NPR. I think Osterholm is really the hors d'oeuvre to the NPR I will say without any reservation whatsoever that the next few weeks will be for me an unprecedented event in my 46-year career in public health. Over the next several weeks, I feel certain that we will see major changes in the occurrence of COVID 19 in our communities what it means to us clinically and public health policies that will come from

14:02 I think we are going to see a viral blizzard literally ascend upon the world with Omicron. John, it's a viral blizzard! Head down. Viral Blizzard! The Viral Blizzard... You're welcome. That guy is epitomizing this problem with this country which is public health departments. Yes. I said it before, I'll say it again. These guys are a plague they're so cautious that's not funny They're ruining the country they're ruining the world Yes And all these schools that teach but they have public health departments and people get degrees Masters of Public Health The MPH And again all I see them really being is rat poop inspectors

CHAPTER 07 / 48 Discussion

NPR Omicron Coverage, Hospital Capacity Propaganda Analysis

NPR reports on the rapid doubling of Omicron cases and the deployment of Department of Defense medical teams to strained hospitals. The hosts analyze this as a propaganda mechanism that conflates existing Delta variant hospitalizations with the emergence of the Omicron variant to increase public fear.

npr· world health organization· propaganda· hospitalizations· department of defense

15:03 Seriously. No, I know you and you have experience You have standing in this arena with these people yes yeah So here we go let's start with the opener which is not part of the series but it's called the Omicron opener NPR Okey-dokey The US is dealing with another spike of COVID-19 cases. Public health officials say it's an alarming rise and they fear the worst is yet to come. Offices, schools, sports events and theaters across the country are again beginning to shut down It's starting to feel a lot like March 2020 due to the rapid spread of the newest coronavirus variant Omicron Can we all say reset?

15:44 So this is their basic take on everything. This is a situation, it's a reset you're right exactly so let's listen to here's the interesting clip this is the first of the series of five they're all short except one This is the Omicron NPR bad one. The World Health Organization says the number of COVID-19 cases involving the Omicron variant is doubling every 1 and a half to 3 days in countries where there is community transmission of the variant In the U.S., hospital staff are exhausted as their facilities fill to the brim Now, the Department of Defense has sent medical teams to shore up hospitals in many states

16:24 As NPR's Rita Chatterjee reports, it is an effort to ease some pressure from the rising hospitalizations on an already strained healthcare system. Question! If it's doubling every three days won't everybody have it within a month? It's getting yeah, probably that's logarithmic right it just goes but the reason I played this clip and cut it off where I did is because this is a classic propaganda mechanism Okay They start off and you might want to play it again. So only 29 seconds But I'll give you how it works they started talking about Omicron. Yeah

17:05 and they've been, oh but Omicron, Omicron, Omicron. And then they just drop discussion of Omicron and go into the fact that the hospitals as a latent Delta variant has filled up a few hospitals here in there I don't notice it around here but i suppose there's some that are And so they switch from Omicron to just a discussion of the situation at the hospitals as though Omicron's causing it. Sounds like a bit like a script, doesn't it? That's the same thing in the Netherlands! It is a propaganda script to scare you. This is shameless propaganda.

17:45 The World Health Organization says the number of COVID-19 cases involving the Omicron variant is doubling every one and a half to three days in countries where there is community transmission of the variant. In the U.S., hospital staff are exhausted as their facilities fill to the brim Now, the Department of Defense has sent medical teams to shore up hospitals in many states As NPR's Rita Chatterjee reports, it is an effort to ease some pressure from the rising hospitalizations on an already strained health care system. Yeah that's... first of all that was exactly what they said in The Netherlands They had the whole song

CHAPTER 08 / 48 Discussion

London and New York, Public Transportation as Disease Vector

London Mayor Sadiq Khan expresses concern over staff absences in emergency services due to Omicron. The discussion identifies public transportation in major hubs like London and New York as the primary vector for disease spread, a factor the hosts claim is ignored by progressive policymakers.

london· sadiq khan· new york city· public transportation· omicron

18:20 Second, I have two boots on the ground reports won't read them but two boots on the ground reports from hospital workers who say yeah we're full. We're definitely full and it's the rooms that are full but it's not all COVID in fact this is small percentage COVID there's all kinds of other stuff coming in that so yes there's problems but no it's not Omicron well they're up somebody's told NPR to make you think it is of course yeah of course Okay, well let's go on with Omicron NPR Bad 2. Colorado, Michigan, New Mexico, Minnesota Montana Idaho Utah and Washington. The military teams include doctors nurses and respiratory therapists they're helping civilian health care workers treat a growing number of COVID patients in their hospitals while most of the recent surge has been caused by the Delta variant Omicron is quickly taking over in states like New York and Texas scientists working with computer models to make projections for the coming winter months say

19:25 The new variant could bring the worst yet COVID surge in the US. Read to Chatterjee and PR News. So the new variant is going to make things worse, even though there's no evidence that it makes you more than get a common cold? Well she said it was in silicoe. She said it was...you know..the modeling, you know....the predictions. Yeah, the predictions not anything factual Let's go with number three. The mayor of London says the rapidly rising number of Omicron infections in the British capital has made him quote incredibly concerned about staff absences and the city's emergency services. Villa Marks says more. Sadiq Khan said staff absence is meant that public services in Britain's largest city could not run at quote optimal levels thanks to staff absences, with 26 thousand new infections recorded in London alone Friday

20:20 He warned that hospitals could struggle, while the UK government's scientific advisors warned that daily hospital admissions nationwide could soon come close to last January's peak according to the BBC. Ay yi yi! Are you panicked? Are you panicked yet?! Did you really do a number... Now by the way there is something nobody ever brings up But let's take a look at what are the two cities, what is the commonality between London and New York? Two cities that are swamped under with these problems with COVID. What is the commonality that you could say New York and London have? Oh! That's easy they both have coke-snorting traders on financial markets. Besides that... Public transportation

21:13 Ah yes, of course. Public transport, yes. New York and London...and this is the public transportation is the little pet dog, the baby to the most beloved aspect of liberal democracies that mean the liberal progressive elements of liberal democracies. Oh, we shouldn't have cars! We shouldn't have individualities! We shouldn't have anything like that it should be public transportation. We need more public transportation. Public transportation is the vector for this disease period it's obvious but no one would...that never is brought up Wow yeah excellent point excellent point will you hear it anywhere? No

CHAPTER 09 / 48 Discussion

European COVID-19 Restrictions, France and Ireland Curfews

European nations tighten restrictions ahead of the New Year, with Ireland implementing an 8:00 PM curfew and France canceling New Year's Eve fireworks. Thousands of French citizens reportedly rushed to catch trains from London to France before total travel restrictions took effect.

france· ireland· mark rutte· curfews· fireworks

22:02 Why would you do that? We got everything on a roll. We know what to do, we know exactly what the... Actually, we should talk about that. What did they need to change this time around to make it all stick? That's the question Well, they're not gonna make it. Here we go with part four and all of Europe is preparing for a huge wave of the variant The Dutch government has imposed a strict lockdown just ahead of Christmas that will last at least until January 14th And here's Eleanor Beardsley reports Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte announced a new lockdown He said it was not a punishment but a measure to avoid the worst non-essential shops bars restaurants because the whole country is saying

22:44 We didn't do anything wrong. We did exactly as you said and people are pretty angry now It's not a punishment, but why would you say I'm gonna do this? But it's not a punishment unless it's a punishment Oh, now that's the better point. Non-essential shops bars restaurants gems schools and outdoor sports venues will close starting Sunday other European countries are also tightening restrictions Ireland has put in place an eight o'clock curfew France cancelled New Year's Eve fireworks the French health minister warned that a wave of Omicron would hit the country next week and could swell the number of people in intensive care from 2900 to 4000 travel between European countries is also becoming more difficult

23:25 Thousands of French people living in London rushed to get the last trains and ferries to France Friday night before a total restriction Of visitors from Britain went into place Saturday Now the thing is, of course they I don't know what the fireworks has got to do with kovat But okay. Let's maybe it spreads it Maybe this thought well people always congregate then watch the fireworks you can watch it from the windows the So, Elitist you clearly always have a window with the nice view of the fireworks. Not everybody has that some have the alley view. No still used to watch it okay now this wraps with New York City they keep going from place to place scaring you more and more when there's gonna be by the way there is no evidence that anyone with Omicron ever gone to intensive care but suddenly is gonna triple in Paris sure

CHAPTER 10 / 48 Discussion

Saturday Night Live COVID-19 Changes, UK Lockdown Uncertainty

Saturday Night Live aired its holiday show hosted by Paul Rudd without a live audience due to Omicron concerns, while musical guest Charli XCX canceled her appearance. Meanwhile, the UK Health Minister refuses to rule out new restrictions before Christmas, citing gaps in data regarding the variant.

saturday night live· paul rudd· charli xcx· uk parliament· omicron

24:21 So let's go to New York City part of this, the last part of this series of fear tactic reports. And with that surge in Omicron cases in the New York City area Saturday Night Live announced today on Twitter his annual holiday show hosted by Paul Rudd would play without a live audience and with limited cast and crew. Jeff London has more. SNL posted to tweet at 327 on Saturday which said in part that quote out of an abundance of caution the changes would be made shortly afterwards musical guest Charlie XCX tweeted that she would not be appearing on the show because it's a limited crew

25:03 SNL has weathered numerous challenges from COVID. Last month, musical guest Ed Sheeran tested positive and had to play from home and it's not the first time the show is played without an audience in the spring of 2020 several episodes were taped entirely in cast members homes yeah The cool thing is no one will notice No one watches It's a bomb that's an abomination I love the interesting why would NPR say posted a tweet instead of saying tweeted. Oh, that's probably in their style guide. Yeah okay that's fine I just found it as a radio guy i'm like you're wasting words. No I understand and agree with you and posted a tweet is uh tweeted. Twotted would be funny if they say twotted

25:56 uh... on their own and i said that by accident had to cut it back here's the uh... the health minister of the u k just a shorty to catch up on his threat of lockdowns and restrictions we will see whether they are new restrictions or not and we might come off a bit onto discussing the the only convention about if if the government felt that for the action had to be taken of course we would present that to Parliament and it would be for Parliament to decide as it always should be. And you do that despite the revolt, can I ask you directly therefore can you rule out new restrictions before Christmas? We are assessing the situation, it's very fast moving. We've seen with Omicron there is a lot that we still don't know about Omicron I mean that's the truth of the matter The reality is there's a lot of uncertainty There are gaps in the data but we must work with the data that we've got and we mustn't let your perfection be enemy of the good I think when this first hit which was now what? How long have we been living with Omicron

CHAPTER 11 / 48 Discussion

Michael Smerconish and Joe Biden, Winter of Severe Illness

CNN's Michael Smerconish discusses the "new normal" of endemic COVID-19, while President Joe Biden warns of a "winter of severe illness and death" for the unvaccinated. The hosts critique the rhetoric used by the administration to pressure citizens into receiving booster shots.

michael smerconish· joe biden· cnn· unvaccinated· winter of death

26:53 10 days? Is it two weeks, is it a week? I think about two weeks. Two weeks... They said it would take at least a month to get the data so they're gonna get this data which will be perfectly timed just around Christmas now New Year's and it's going to be bad It's not going to be good people Omicron is hunting you down. It's gonna find ya! Let's switch to CNN for a second. Smirconish, who is obviously vying for the newly opened top spot in primetime. COVID it seems has taken another turn for the worse and for me its starting to feel like the new normal

27:30 as in it's here to stay and will remain so. This guy is taking the reset kind of literally, he's like okay boss I'll use the same words, i'l do everything, i'll say this new normal we had that one remember? Covid it seems has taken another turn for the worse and for me it's starting to feel like the new normal As in its here to stay and will remain so for our lifetimes And while we need to take every possible step to protect ourselves and contain the virus We also need to prepare ourselves psychologically, so that we can live as normal an existence as possible amidst a pandemic that's becoming endemic. Here is the situation first from 30 thousand feet cases and hospitalizations in this country both up 40% in the last month or so while scientists think Omicron is more contagious most cases so far appear to be mild

28:22 But late today, President Biden warned that won't be the case for the unvaccinated in the path of Omicron as it likely explodes at the beginning of the new year. It's here now and is spreading and it's going to increase for unvaccinated we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for unvaccinated for themselves their families and the hospital they'll soon overwhelm but There's good news. If you're vaccinated, you have your booster shot, You're protected from severe illness and death. Winter of Death Thank you Prez I didn't clip it because it was not clippable

CHAPTER 12 / 48 Discussion

Scott Adams, Mass Formation Psychosis Debunking Attempt

The hosts critique Dilbert creator Scott Adams for his attempt to debunk the "mass formation psychosis" theory mentioned by Dr. Peter McCullough on The Joe Rogan Experience. They argue that Adams, a trained hypnotist, is himself trapped in the mass formation due to his strong support for vaccines.

scott adams· peter mccullough· mass formation· ivermectin· joe rogan

29:03 Did you see that African guy in the press conference go berserk on... You're lying! You're lying about Africa. Do you have that? Do you have the clip? No, I couldn't because it's not clippable Yes yeah you're right Well so if they are doing this reset which is obvious then we need to look revisit the mass formation briefly In fact i have an agenda why'd like to visit the mass formation Because that's what could happen again. If when people get locked down, we know from Professor Matthias De Smett we know what happens and I was delighted to see that master debunker Scott Adams was debunking the mass formation theory which i think is a it's a published...it's an agreed-to condition

29:57 I don't think it's just a theory. Mass formation is a thing and it has been written about, and peer reviewed How it pertains to mass formation in the coronavirus Is what we're talking about So...I watched this And haven't watched Scott Adams in awhile Do you watch him ever? I occasionally catch him Maybe once every couple of weeks I'll see where he's at with his thinking Yeah Yeah, for me it's once every couple of months. It would be funny that he'd be debunking this as he is the hypnotist Well I of course pulled a couple clips from this and i'll say right off the bat...I like Scott Adams I think he's interesting He's the kind of guy you want to spar against because he's incredibly smart And I'm disappointed really with what he did but not surprised Because I think I can prove that he in fact himself is trapped in the mass formation Sorry? It could be No, I think I can show it

30:56 And I also believe that you and I have heard the professor's explanation of mass formation as it pertains to COVID well enough so that we comprehend it, and can reiterate it and explain it. And measure Scott Adams debunking versus how we believe it works now this all came out of the...I guess he watched Dr Peter McCullough on the Rogan show and that's where McCullough brought up the mass formation. Now Scott Adams as you pointed out he is a trained hypnotist in fact we should probably say right off the bat, we have proof that he is a very well-trained hypnotist I mean if you've seen his wife you know this guy definitely is a hypnotist Thank You, thank you. I wrote that myself. That was good one. Come to me!

31:53 And the reason, well so that's what unfortunately he didn't really do the research about the theory or refresh his memory which is a big mistake and it starts off with one of my favorite things that we talk about here just in general about Dr. Peter McCullough I think he's not good at evaluating data So when he says some countries have good experience with ivermectin That's just false Okay, John you want to weigh in on that? You wanna weigh in on that or should we listen to the whole clip here for a second. Well that's pretty much of a whopper I mean there are

32:32 Again, I've had this website that I keep referring to which has changed its basic URL. It used to be IVMmeta.com but now it's IV9 something or other. I don't have it handy but there are about 70 studies showing its effectiveness that have been peer reviewed and then the FDA itself on their one webpage where they say, Oh you shouldn't use ivermectin cause it's unproven. They have a link on that exact page to 75 more studies I mean, where there's smoke there is fire when it comes to the study of ivermectin and then of course there was the discontinued use and re-use watching numbers go up and down. So that is a bad thing to say. Well let us listen how he arrives at this! And by the way Peter McCullough who used

CHAPTER 13 / 48 Discussion

Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect, Scott Adams on Ivermectin Data

Scott Adams is criticized for using the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect to dismiss Dr. Peter McCullough's claims about Ivermectin. The hosts argue that Adams' reliance on Google search results to "debunk" Ivermectin studies demonstrates a failure to recognize algorithmic suppression of medical data.

gell-mann amnesia· ivermectin· google· scott adams· peer review

33:29 was the editor of a couple of journals where all you did was look at data is kind of belies, he kinda overlooks that fact. He was a peer reviewer himself as it were I think he's not good at evaluating data That was almost as if we scripted it, John. Love that! So when he says that some countries have good experience with ivermectin...that's just false You know my understanding is that there's no evidence of any country who had any... My understanding? Yeah yeah oh yeah now this is the trained hypnotist He's hypnotized you're right I think he's already a parent It gets much better He reads The New York Times and next thing you know he's like zoned out okay

34:18 This is very disappointing. Yes, that's exactly what I said! My understanding is that there's no evidence of any country who had any success with ivermectin so one of his biggest claims based on data I think is credibly falsified and so then you have to say yourself all right but what does that say about the rest of the things he says? So here Scott brings up the Gelman theory, Gelman I think it's actually amnesia theory where if you read the newspaper and you see something that you absolutely are an expert in and it's completely wrong people will ignore the fact that the rest of the paper is probably bullcrap too so everything may be wrong. So he's telling us that because

35:03 McCullough made this huge gaffe by saying Ivermectin works, which Scott clearly disputes. That means you really got to question everything the guy says from there on out incredibly false. By the way, his use of that I know that theory and it does apply but when you're when your basic premise is wrong well he himself then you project the wrongness on everything else You're the one who's wrong on everything He in fact is in the Gellman amnesia theory himself you're absolutely right And so then you have to say yourself all right but what does that say about the rest of things he says

35:46 So what about the rest of it? Now, of course if you get some big thing wrong that should make the observer say oh okay if something big got wrong yeah those of you who are naming countries those have all been debunked. You can just Google it Just google did this country whichever country you think had a good experience Here's Scott's debunking just google it Say did they have a good experience with Ivermectin or some Google term like that You'll see all the debunks. They'll pop right up there's no data to support any of that now That's disappointing because that means mr.. Research is not really doing the right research, and if he trusts Google Yeah Is it possible? I'm just throwing something out there that maybe Google suppresses some of these things Just possibility but again reminder

CHAPTER 14 / 48 Discussion

Totalitarianism vs Dictatorship, Scott Adams' Nazi Comparisons

The hosts deconstruct Scott Adams' misunderstanding of Professor Mattias Desmet's theory, noting that Desmet specifies "totalitarianism" rather than "dictatorship." They claim Adams uses "Hitler bombs" as a rhetorical tell to dismiss the theory because he cannot admit he was "duped" into taking the vaccine.

mattias desmet· totalitarianism· nazi germany· hitler· psychological theory

36:41 When it comes to mass formation and theories of hysteria, hypnosis and psychosis Scott Adams is your man. So Dr. McCullough talked about some other experts concept of mass formation psychosis How many have you heard that argument? Yeah I have That we are experiencing a mass formation psychosis And the idea is that, much like what would explain the rise of Nazi Germany, that if a certain set of situations are in place you end up where we are. Okay I gotta stop it right there! This is where Scott went completely wrong so he did not research the theory He did not research what Dr DeSmet, Professor DeSmet says

37:29 Professor De Smet in fact never said this is how you get a Nazi regime. He said this mass formation, this psychosis can lead to Nazi regime and he mentioned several other professors who corroborated that in peer-to-peer reviewed research. He wasn't saying this mass formation gives you Hitler So again, Scott sorry you should have done a little more work. You end up where we are but you know why would you do that? A lot of people have been promoting that as a very smart representation of what's happened and and a good filter to understand everything my opinion is it's complete bullshit this is sort of my area

38:20 This is sort of my wheelhouse. As I say too often, I'm a trained hypnotist and I've been studying persuasion all my life. I write about persuasion all the time so in terms of people who are hypnotists and trained in persuasion...I'm not so sure they see it this way but I can't speak for anybody else will just talk to myself about myself which is what you're really good at keep talking about yourself So there it is, he had to throw it out there. Luckily he said as I say too often I'm a trained hypnotist so this got in the way of his vision again we know he's a great hypnotist but it got in the way and then be and he this is typical Scott Adams I've analyzed how he does it He threw in the Nazi bit just to fuck with you

39:06 So I'll walk through some of the assumptions that go into mass formation psychosis, and let's see how many of these apply. Oh before i do that here's the other tell that is bullshit if you didn't catch this one you should feel ashamed to yourself If you read about the best mass formation hysteria idea and you didn't catch this obvious tell that the whole thing is bullshit? You should feel bad for yourself when I tell you what it is. The biggest part of this, as being compared to Nazi Germany and Hitler... Are we done? Are we done here? No, we're not because that is not the theory. I never heard that He's he is the one who compared to Nazi Germany and Hitler That's the tale that was his tell and now he's berating you for not noticing his tail I Love this. That's all you had to know

40:02 If I just told you... Yeah, that's all we have to know. So what he has done is he dropped a Hitler bomb in there which is a tell that it's all bullshit what HE is saying! Thank YOU! Hey there's somebody who has got a theory of why were drifting into a Hitler-like situation That's all you know You don't even know what this theory is Do you believe it? No the answer is you shouldn't because that's a gigantic flag that is bullshit In other words, it's a gigantic flag that somebody is reasoning backwards. They're saying, hey we're drifting into a dictatorship. Let me come up with the theory that explains it." In fact the professor specifically said totalitarian regime not dictatorship! Specifically went out of his way to say that and he said on top of that totalitarian regimes happens because they are also in mass formation, the leaders being politicians etc

40:58 They become completely micro focused and myopic, and they really go out of control. But... you know, to say that it's a dictator. No! You need a guy for that and thank you for pointing out that he is providing the tell that what he is about to say is bullshit I don't know if its because his under-informed likely or because he wants to misinform That would be disappointing so let's go through his... He picked up on my substack corner long time ago

41:34 on Mass Hysteria. Oh yeah, oh he did? Yeah and he's laughed it off and uh... He- you have to remember that he also bought into the vaccine in a big way so now he is like resisting The possibility, because it would be beyond his comprehension. I think it would be really tough for him to have gone through this vaccine the... And know he got duped? Especially since its a risky proposition. And know he got duped! to know he got duped. Yeah, he can't handle the idea that he would have been duped so he is now fighting it and so he's actually going deeper... Yes! He is in fact one of the leaders in the mass formation who goes all-in becomes more myopic and micro focused. And the Ivermectin is his tell because everything you said about Ivermectin is nonsense Oh yeah

CHAPTER 15 / 48 Discussion

Social Isolation Metrics, Digital Communication vs Biology

A debate ensues regarding the criteria for mass formation, specifically social isolation. While Scott Adams argues that smartphones provide more communication than ever, the hosts counter that digital interaction does not satisfy biological needs for in-person social bonding, especially for those not living in luxury.

social isolation· smartphones· biology· mattias desmet· ssris

42:32 And by googling it, that's going to do something. Come on! That really is quite disappointing... I'll just reiterate briefly, you have four criteria for mass formation hysteria to take place. You need people already to be disappointed and disillusioned and the professor said look at how many SSRIs people are taking and then he also said bullshit jobs book was a good example which you push back on but the SSRIs is a lot of depression going on then you need extreme isolation which is the isolation of the lockdown

43:08 free-floating anxieties and the free floating anxieties of death or whatever that subset was. All of these are here because you have a virus, it's gonna kill you, your locked down, your socially isolated and then... And the point is the mass formation occurs at the moment The social isolation is broken overnight and they say we're all in it together if we wear a mask. We're all in together, if you wear two masks three masks If we get a shot, if we get a second shot, if we get a booster That's the moment the mass formation takes place Scott Adams Do your homework So here's what uh...the claim is for mass formation psychosis You should know about it because there's something to learn here Alright number one Yeah!

43:54 of the four things that could cause that situation. See, this is already the point he didn't read it those four things don't cause a situation those are the four requirements A lack of social bonding social isolation and we would agree there's more social isolation now right? but how do you measure social isolation on my phone I communicate with more people than i've ever communicated at any time until I got a smartphone every day I have more meaningful communications with more people today and during the pandemic than at any time in my life. Yeah, but Scott you live in a 20 million dollar mansion with some hot wife you've hypnotized You don't live in a two-bedroom apartment with three kids who are home for school? You're trying to simultaneously do a zoom call with work! Do you think that's gonna be a little different situation?! You elitist!! But not in person

44:49 But I have more communication on more richer topics than i ever would just in person. So do we have a lack of social bonding? Yes, in person but social isolation...I don't know that that applies in the internet age does it?" Yeah, I think biology is still a thing what your thoughts Dr Dvorak It's funny, you're doing a good job of deconstructing. You're deconstructing the personality. Well this is important to put that into context he is very wealthy man he is rarely challenged

CHAPTER 16 / 48 Discussion

Free-Floating Anxiety, Media Fear-Mongering Tactics

The hosts discuss the prevalence of free-floating anxiety and purposelessness in modern society. They accuse the media of intentionally pumping up fear regarding the Omicron variant—which they characterize as a harmless cold—to maintain a state of public hysteria.

free-floating anxiety· media· omicron· red queen· psychology

45:28 The president, the former president loved him. I'm envious of that! He's at the White House with a picture with him As the master hypnotist and knowledge of all Now he is going to do the second one which you talked about... the depression How about the second one? Seeing life as meaningless purposelessness and senseless Is there more than there ever was Do we see life as purposeless and senseless more than any human did in the past? See, he thinks that it has to be... That you feel it's more senseless or all of a sudden it feels senseless. He missed the entire point!

46:04 Yes, that's the point. We are senseless all the time you're making the argument Scott Maybe because there is less religion right? Religion... Because of religion okay... ...has decreased and people are not just assigned a purpose in life where you have to work hard or die A lot of us don't have to work hard or die so that usually is a way to focus your purpose I just gotta stay alive feed my family Yeah, again Scott you don't have to work or die. You really don't some people might be a little more dire So yeah I would say we maybe have drifted into more meaningless purposeless existence but we always had a lot of it

46:50 Didn't we? That's the point. Exactly the point! On to the final ones... How about this widespread free-floating anxiety and free floating discontent again did the pandemic make it worse maybe yeah I don't have any data to support that but i thought everybody always had free floating anxiety and free floating discontent when did that ever turn off I don't remember anytime we didn't have How about... Now by the way, that technique he used there to just push it off is really cold-blooded. The fact is that the media has been hounding the public for years. Death numbers on the sidebar continuously. And the exact

47:40 These clips I just played about Omicron, which is a harmless cold. Which is now being used to threaten people This has been pumped up and I don't know that he hasn't noticed this He has to have noticed it but he's pushing meh! It really is a sad analysis on his part to just go meh! This happened because nothing new He's like, he's like the you know off with their heads queen in Alice in Wonderland. The Red Queen yes exactly. I thought everybody always had free floating anxiety and free floating discontent And he has that little chuckle in there. Yeah yeah. That little tell chuckle. Because what would he be telling?

48:26 And what's he laughing about? What so funny about pre-floating anxiety in the giant popular way? Oh, oh I know. Because he has severe free floating anxiety of this virus! He himself is extremely paranoid. Otherwise he wouldn't have rushed out to get the vaccine and probably got the booster already... He doesn't go out at all, he stays in his house! He says it himself! So yeah that's the tell, he's laughing because like oh man I have severe free-floating anxieties i don't want to die from this i have respiratory issues yes he does well i thought everybody always had free floating anxiety and free floating discontent when did that ever turn off

49:05 I don't remember any time we didn't have that. How about widespread free-floating frustration and aggression? Oh, that's different! No it's not... that's not different. So it's so sad because he doesn't realize that, and in fact he probably would if he knew the true theory and done a little bit of work and wasn't so pompous, you would see that all the things were set perfectly in stage and ready to go all you need is a little tip just a little push with a little bit of... He would probably think be thinking a little bit more about hey Hey, was this bull crap? Was this done intentionally? Is this something that might have been released because when you see all these things set up perfectly...

CHAPTER 17 / 48 Discussion

Weimar Republic Parallels, Hypnosis of the Hypnotist

The discussion concludes with a comparison between current societal conditions and the Weimar Republic. The hosts suggest that Scott Adams is a prime example of a "hypnotized hypnotist" and predict he will eventually regret his stance on the COVID-19 vaccines in 2022.

weimar republic· national socialist party· scott adams· hypnosis· mass formation

49:46 And then, of course he is a true mask believer. He believes that a mask will all even if it's 0.02 percent he believes that that's better than not zero point zero two percent so we'll wrap it up again he misunderstands the whole thesis and ends this way So here's my take all four of these things are baseline they're just baseline everyday human existence Here's what I think caused Nazi Germany. People don't like to blame themselves for their problems, they like to have something else to blame or somebody

50:23 Hitler was really good at focusing... What is, hold on a second. Yeah remember, remember- What is the point of jumping to Nazi Germany? It's got nothing to do with Nazi Germany! Because he believes because he didn't do the research that the tell of the whole theory which he said at the beginning is oh the minute they bring up Nazis no no no need well listen it's 30 seconds listen you'll finish off Nazi Germany. People don't like to blame themselves for their problems, they like to have something else to blame or somebody Hitler was really good at focusing their thoughts into that thing and then people got in line because people will do anything that they're told you know really need a big old mass formation psychosis

51:11 If you have an actual... Don't do anything they're told, take the shot! You don't really need a big old mass formation psychosis if you have an actual healer. So the situation was people wanted something to focus on that sort of made them feel good I guess That's exactly, so this is where he loses it completely. That's exactly how mass formation works when you have something to feel good about now if you go back Hitler didn't just pop up Scott Adams Hitler came out of a mass formation look at the situation in Weimar Republic before World War II before the rise of the National Socialist Party Look at the situation You can see that there were very very similar

51:57 scenario, it's a very similar scenario to this mass formation and they went through all the... well actually we skipped a few steps here. You know we didn't really break all the unvaccinated people shop owners windows yet, we spray-painted them but we went straight to you're dirty and next step is the shower! And that's when a Hitler person can rise up very easily and slide right into it disappointing It's interesting because here is my prediction. Scott will snap out of it and at some point, probably in 2022 he is going to admit that taking the shot was probably not a good idea. And then he is going to be irked about it and when he is irked... He gets funny when he is irked! There was nothing funny about that but just like oh okay. Oh man

53:02 Yeah, well so I happens. It's just like the most susceptible sales guy you know most susceptible to sales is a sales guy Yes So the most susceptible to hypnosis is a hypnotist yeah Quite quite quite astounding but since we're all over the mass formation We might have been one of the first ones to talk about it actually pull it into programming instead of just being out there, I felt we had to defend it a little bit. Because Scott Adams is very popular guy but well viewed. Well yeah well viewed so want to make sure that we put it out there now...I do kind of think I know where this is all leading with Omicron. Can you play three more clips? Oh sure no please let's go and lets do it

CHAPTER 18 / 48 Discussion

Pfizer Pediatric Vaccine Trials, Three-Dose Regimen for Children

Pfizer reports disappointing data from vaccine trials for children under five, suggesting that two low doses are insufficient to produce a strong immune response. The company is now testing a third dose for this age group, potentially delaying the rollout for toddlers until mid-2022.

pfizer· pediatric vaccine· shep smith· clinical trials· omicron

53:50 First of all, I want to get to the vaccine dose. The three dose where the two doses that... Three is the new two! This is kind of in along those lines and this is a vac- this is under the clip vaccine as I spelled vaccine with a Q. A vaccine three dose for five year olds Today a new setback for families with kids 5 and under Pfizer reporting some disappointing data from a trial that could delay the shot even further CBC's Meg Terrell covers medicine for us and science. Meg, what happened here? Yeah Shubh Pfizer has been testing much lower doses of its vaccines for kids under five two doses of three micrograms each compared with 10 micrograms for kids 5 to 11 and 30 for those 12 and older and adults but the company disclosed today that doesn't appear to be enough for kids ages 2-4 the immune response they saw with two doses didn't stack up with a comparison group of teens

54:46 and young adults. While t in even younger ages, 6 to now adding a third dose t that can provide high lev the board. The third dose two months after the seco for clearance in the first half of 2022. That's a delay of a couple months from what many in the public health world and parents were hoping for. The company is also testing third doses and all other age groups up through 17, suggesting that additional dose will provide stronger protection against variants including Omicron perhaps the first steps to making this a three-dose vaccine across the board.

55:34 Three. Of course, this is no surprise there's no uptake I think the five to eleven year olds believe the numbers are closer to like 15 percent. Well they uptake well that way they presented and I feel bad about Shep Smith doing it this way because he's all in. Poor Shep. Oh the parents are so irked that they can't get their three-year old a shot! I don't know that the parents were that irked are they? I'm not hearing it, but i don't hang out with the parents of young kids that much. Well, I have two... Jesse and JC are parents of a four-year old and they're not anxious to get him a shot at all! But they're also not in the mass formation or are they? Well, they might be but not in that mass formation. Yeah, they're in the 40 percent So let's go with okay now here's two more clips this is COVID this back to COVID as opposed to Omicron

CHAPTER 19 / 48 Discussion

New York Holiday Cancellations, Rockettes and NFL Outbreaks

The surge in COVID-19 cases in New York City leads to the cancellation of the Radio City Rockettes' season and disruptions to NFL and college basketball schedules. Governor Kathy Hochul reports record case numbers, while CDC Director Rochelle Walensky emphasizes the need for boosters despite breakthrough infections.

radio city rockettes· nfl· kathy hochul· rochelle walensky· cdc

56:37 COVID in New York. Good evening. The situations playing out in parts of our country right now are both jarring and familiar. COVID is spreading fast, and hospitalizations are rising. Ooh do you think it's time to send the hospital ships out again? That would be a perfect- Now that! Should we just remain empty they cost too much money to move. The virus once again disrupting everything from live performances to restaurants to schools and sports

57:14 The NFL announced today it's postponing three games this weekend as the league deals with an outbreak among players. Similar story in college hoops, two of the top ranked teams in the nation Duke and UCLA both scrapping games from their schedule In New York City, another popular tourist attraction cancelled. Just last hour Radio City announced the Rockettes nixed all of their shows for the remainder of this season. Oh no! The new wave of infections... By the way this destroys so much in New York. New York Christmas time? The Rockettes? Are you kidding me?! This is just burning the city All of their shows for the remainder of the season. The new wave of infections also taking a toll on restaurants and bars in the big cities

57:57 At least a dozen temporarily closed this week. Today, the New York governor Kathy Hochul said New York State recorded its highest number of cases since the pandemic began close to 21,000 and the majority of them still the Delta variant but the CDC director warns Omicron will become the most dominant strain in the US in a matter of weeks Dr. Rochelle Walensky says it reinforces the need for more Americans to get vaccinated and boosted We've seen cases of Omicron among those who are both vaccinated and boosted, and we believe these cases are milder or asymptomatic because of vaccine protection. This is my favorite! Now hold on a second... this is the same ploy used by the climate change people? Yep

58:45 It's snowing out. How is that global warming? No, this global warming is causing the snow." Yes. Oh okay it's hot out oh that's global warming yeah see it's how its hot as so hot you can tell us global warming has to be all there's no flooding going on all that because of this always some bull crap was always global warming whatever it But you know now everything's circling around the vaccine. This is so transparent, it's just garbage! Well perhaps our health minister the CDC director should talk to the UK's health minister because he doesn't know like we have no data she knows. It's the boosters, it's vaccines hello or maybe he didn't get the call from Pfizer yet? He will

CHAPTER 20 / 48 Discussion

Test-to-Stay Guidance, CDC School Quarantine Policies

The CDC introduces "Test-to-Stay" guidance, an approach allowing students exposed to COVID-19 to remain in school if they test negative twice a week. While intended to prevent missed school days, officials note that many schools lack the staffing and supplies to implement the frequent testing required.

test-to-stay· cdc· school closures· rapid testing· contact tracing

59:34 He will. You have data here you might be interested in. The data sheet is inside this fat wallet, take the wallet and keep it. It's a nice little thing yeah. Is that the whole clip? Yeah. Okay now we have my last one this one here this is actually introducing some information. I got two follow-ons for this you're absolutely right This is a new term and they're going to try to work this into the situation as we try to ease, we're still trying to ease out of this mess. And this may be one of the ways they're going to at least come up with a term, an acceptable term that makes things work better. It's marketing. We now have new data and updated CDC guidance showing the effectiveness of an approach called Test2Stay which involves frequent rapid testing of students at least two times per week in robust contact tracing. The idea is that with frequent testing even kids who may have been exposed

1:00:33 do not need to quarantine as long as they test negative. The second part is a partnership with teachers unions, to get as many teachers boosted as possible. Omicron is already prompting some school closures though and this was before it truly crashes ashore here one of the new CDC studies that the CDC director cited is based on 90 schools in Lake County Illinois and estimated that tests to stay prevented more than 8000 missed school days but some schools are already closing with a rise in COVID positivity. I've also interviewed school officials about tests to stay, and it basically requires a lot of manpower requiring a lot of supplies and staffing that these schools just don't have yet they're especially vulnerable given their vaccination rates just 18% of kids age 5-11 have had at least one shot that 61 percent those aged 12 to 17 who've had a single dose. I'm not crazy about it but

1:01:29 It'll do for now, test to stay. It doesn't flow you know it's like tests to stays if your... Well actually yeah if our jingle master can come up with something that might work The problem is that for the Millennials they got a drop at least one of those T's I don't know which one to drop S to A So it's... No, I think you're dropping one of them automatically in the term. Test to stay. The second T in test is dropped automatically by everybody when you say Test 2. Test-a-stay, test-a-stay... Test-a-stay sounds like teachy fly, teachy fly, test-a-stay, test-a-stay I think it can work as a jingle So the Keeper and I had dinner Friday night with new friends They are older Millennials early 30's

CHAPTER 21 / 48 Discussion

Freedom Passports, Abbott Labs and Bill Gates Testing

The hosts discuss the transition from vaccine mandates to mandatory testing as a means of social control. They predict the rise of "Freedom Passports" based on proctored home tests from companies like Abbott Labs, potentially involving new testing technology acquired by Bill Gates and George Soros.

abbott labs· bill gates· george soros· freedom passport· qr codes

1:02:23 One two-year old daughter, they live in Dripping Springs. And what's interesting about them is they had a quite... and I'd known them for long time ago, I think I spoke to him They had a business doing production for events and so AV production, teleprompter. And it's a relatively small company I think maybe eight or nine people but then they have you know they hire local talent so they'll send out people who will manage everything and they hire the AV guys and very successful business which of course stopped overnight with Covid and she decided as a real red-blooded American, true Texan from North Texas said I'm not gonna let this get me so they converted overnight to it's testing company and they now test people at corporate events and board meetings. And they are doing stuff globally now it's off the hook So I know...I got a little bit of insight

1:03:20 And I think the test to stay, you're right. It's the way out. The vaccines eventually even though OSHA is ruling or the stay was overruled by a judge this will go to the Supreme Court and ultimately it'll be no you can't mandate vaccines You can't make it a requirement to work in the manner that you're doing. It will probably get there so we still need to have the ultimate goal The ultimate goal is to still have people scanning QR codes and letting us know where they are, and getting the concept of the Freedom Passport. So it'll be much easier for everybody if it's not about a vaccine but you have to have a test. And the test will probably be Abbott Labs, it's the tests now that are in Walmart and all those big box stores between 14-20 bucks depending on where you are

1:04:16 E-Med, from one of our producers here has partnered with Abbott maker of the BinaxNOW which is called RapidTest and offering online supervision and verification of the test. This fills a need because home tests have been potentially problematic because people sometimes don't do them right or no, people are cheating. So these will be proctored tests it'll be telemedicine you're like hey it's time for my test it'll take you five minutes you're on the app but about a mom's lip swab good you're good to go it's not about your health or anyone else's health it's making sure we have you have the freedom passport and you understand that you are now tracked and controlled. And I've two clips, I think that show us that this is where we're headed. According to Politico the Biden administration now privately warning COVID-19 test makers in labs that the demand for tests could soon double or triple

1:05:09 Currently in the US, 1.6 million tests are used daily but Health and Human Services now projects the country will need a lot more fast The HHS model showing 3 to 5 million daily tests will be needed by January or February All of this driven by the more transmissible Omicron variant which they predict will become the dominant strain here in just a month So I'm waiting for someone to stand up and say, I can fill the void because regular old tests may not work. I want to refer to Dr Fauci who has mentioned a limited number of PCR tests don't catch the variant so to what extent in your view is this reason for concern?

1:05:50 So that alone, there is a little bit of reason concern there because as we've seen these reports and people testing negative then going to a gathering and they're winding up testing positive later on from the Omicron variant or for someone who said hey I tested negative. I should be okay that is something that we're gonna get more real-time data analysis of but even if we look at testing you know if you're taking multiple tests you should say like hey have a good chance of catching a positive test if I was exposed but right now Deirdre were looking at about 1.5 1.7 million tests a day in the United States. With modelings projected, we need to double if not triple that amount as we head into a winter surge." So there is the backup from ABC repeating the same talking points. We need to triple. We're going- they're not gonna have enough. There will be I think we'll see the government say okay you can do it just with testing it'll be the vaccine...I think everyone will have to show the testing and we don't have the right test. You know who's gonna stand up? I've been waiting for him

1:06:47 Any day now, Bill Gates with his new test equipment acquisition that he bought with George Soros will have the solution for us. We just have to wait probably after Christmas. Testing to stay I think testing to stay is it's not a great slogan but i think it definitely was tests this day tests to say tests tests to stay yes so And that'll be super fun. Everyone gets a passport. Nuts! Yeah, nuts is right. Let's see we... Oh yeah this is kind of funny just to wrap this all up By the way I should mention there was a couple of good columns floating around on Substack different people wrote about why don't they just admit these vaccines don't work? Very hard Which of course we've been saying since February Very hard for people to believe that This is kinda funny

CHAPTER 22 / 48 Discussion

House COVID Committee Report, Great Barrington Declaration Takedown

The House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis releases a year-end report largely blaming the Trump administration for pandemic failures. Leaked emails from Francis Collins to Anthony Fauci reveal a coordinated effort to perform a "quick and devastating published takedown" of the Great Barrington Declaration's fringe epidemiologists.

james clyburn· jamie raskin· francis collins· anthony fauci· great barrington declaration

1:07:54 the House COVID committee. Did you know we had a COVID committee? No, I didn't Yeah we have a COVID committee It would surprise me if we didn't but... Well they released their it's the select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis and they released their report with their findings of the crisis and this is a bipartisan subcommittee I just want to tell you who's on it the the chairman is James Clyburn blowhard Democrat, I think we can say Maxine Waters even blower harder. The worst! Carolyn B Maloney from New York yeah another one

1:08:41 Velaquez, Nydia Velaquez also from New York. I'm not familiar with her but she looks like a card and Bill Foster from Illinois oh and then my favorite Jamie Rashkin! Jamie Rashkin he belongs on there along with Raja Krishnamoorthi all assholes when they're asking questions so on the Republican side there's Steve Scalise that's a heavy hitter He is the ranking member. Jim Jordan, certainly not a guy who would pull any punches. Mark Green MD he's from Tennessee. The actual doctor? Yeah and Nicole Maliotakis from New York I'm not familiar with her yeah and Miller Meeks from Iowa there's at least three on the Republican side who wouldn't just stand for stuff i think so

1:09:37 Why don't we just open up the full report itself and just give you a few highlights. So this is great, it's the year-end staff report more effective more efficient more equitable overseeing and improving an ongoing pandemic response so they have the executive summary which is, you know they do think there's a number of things that we could do better but pretty much everything that went wrong during the pandemic and I mean let's just start with part one. Section A The Trump administration was responsible for a series of critical failures that undermined the nation's ability to respond effectively to the coronavirus pandemic

1:10:23 We can see which side of the aisle put this together. The Trump administration's persistent political interference in the pandemic response contributed to... By the way, I would like to see what the vote was on the final report being approved. It was right along party lines. This is just a Democrat piece of crap! The whole thing is everything with Trump. And they start off with Trump? No no no, the whole thing The whole thing is Trump. Every single piece purposefully weakened CDC's testing guidance, instructed CDC career scientists to destroy evidence, pressured the Food and Drug Administration to authorize ineffective treatments, championed a dangerous herd immunity strategy used personal email accounts to conduct official business neglected the pandemic response to focus on the 2020 election and big lie

1:11:13 Mean oh what that was a good one wasn't it? Documents obtained by the Select Subcommittee revealed that Trump administration officials allowed the pandemic response to take a back seat in the fall of 2020, to focus instead on the presidential election and promoting former President Biden's- Donald Trump's big lie that the- capital B capital L. That the election results were fraudulent! Dr. Birx also informed the select subcommittee that Trump White House officials were actively campaigning for the presidential election and that the narrow focus on campaigning took people's time away from, and distracted them away from the pandemic." So let's see what else we could find that maybe wasn't reported on when it comes to secret little pieces of information being sent back-and-forth. Oh here it is!

1:12:16 From the email, from these actually FOIA'd emails. Francis Collins Anthony Fauci's boss on October 8th 2020 Subject Great Barrington Declaration Hi Tony and Cliff See global declaration.org the proposal from the three fringe epidemiologists who met with the secretary seems to be getting a lot of attention and even a co-signature from Nobel Prize winner Mike Leavitt at Stanford There needs to be a quick and devastating published takedown of its premise I don't see anything like that online yet is it underway? I'd say that's pretty damning

CHAPTER 23 / 48 Discussion

JPMorgan Chase Fine, Personal Device Record-Keeping Laws

JPMorgan Chase is fined $200 million by federal regulators for failing to track work-related communications on employees' personal devices. The hosts compare this penalty to the lack of consequences for public sector officials, specifically referencing Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server.

jpmorgan chase· sec· record-keeping· hillary clinton· federal law

1:13:00 That is pretty damning. That is damning! Yeah, so I'm sure it will be reported tonight. Of course not. There was something in there about using private email... this reminds me of a story that just came out. It's kind of... on the topic but it brings up this private email thing because this is a ridiculous fine that JP Morgan just paid. I was looking at the $200 million dollar fine and thinking, why are they getting fined? What's the deal? So i have a clip and this explains it America's largest bank slapped with a huge penalty And that what topping CNBC On The Money

1:13:38 JPMorgan Chase hit with a $200 million fine. The reason? Federal regulators say the bank failed to track work-related communications on its employees' personal devices. Staff members of its securities division discussed company business over text and email, bypassing strict records keeping laws. Unapproved communications date back to at least 2015. Federal law requires financial firms to keep detailed records and electronic messages But I guess Hillary could do it. She actually works for the government, worked actually worked for the government and she was doing the exact same thing where is her $200 million fine? Why are they throwing a big fine on a private company like this for record keeping because of some regulations that they don't do anything about

1:14:29 the public sector doing the same thing. I just found this to be weird. Yeah, most people like life and when you do that to Hillary Clinton sometimes it gets shortened so I think that there's like no i'm just gonna let her go That's what apparently looks like In the UK in order to explain some of the weird issues that people may have medically which as you know are not related to the vaccine these are not because of the juice people No, no it is possible there's a festive allergy.

CHAPTER 24 / 48 Discussion

Radiation Recall Phenomenon, Exploratorium Thermal Illusion

A discussion of rare medical phenomena includes "Radiation Recall Phenomenon" (RRP) potentially triggered by vaccines. This is compared to a famous exhibit at the San Francisco Exploratorium where alternating warm and cold coils create a sensation of intense burning that shorts out the nervous system.

radiation recall phenomenon· nih· exploratorium· nervous system· vaccine side effects

1:15:06 that can aggravate the lungs and trigger asthma attacks, which is called Christmas tree syndrome. So if you have a sudden weird things it's obviously it's Christmas tree syndrome or post pandemic stress syndrome or anything but something that could happen from the vaccine and I do have one final adverse reaction that was new Tina Found this you know she follows a lot of functional medicine people on online and there's this There's this whole group of women who have been vaccinated Who their hair is falling out they feel like they're on fire it from the inside from the inside And it's but it's bad. I mean, of course these are just videos that people are posting but they pointed to

1:16:00 A paper from the NIH PubMed Central published March 4th 2021. RRP, COVID-19 vaccine induced radiation recall phenomenon. Yeah! Radiation recall phenomenon is a late effect acute skin reaction associated with therapeutic irradiation triggered by something other than radiation It usually appears more than one week after the... Like a flashback for people who used to take LSD a lot. Yeah, exactly and they've researched and they see that the COVID-19 vaccine in some cases triggers this RRP and there was even one woman posted that her granny who was dying in her arms at 96 and she had been juiced and a drop of sweat fell on her arm and that gave her a burn

1:17:04 Huh. Yeah, that reminds me of a there's a phenomenon that people who this is the show favorite I know what's coming. I don't know what you do? I do but there is a cute little exhibit at the Exploratorium in San Francisco and it is a and you can do this at home You can make one of these things It's a series of coils copper or even aluminum tubes and they're twisted around in a circle so there's like, a row of them. And one on the left is slightly warm and the one on the right is slightly cold and then next to it slightly warm, next to slightly cold, next to slightly warm, next to slightly cold. An that whole thing is that temperature change very minor temperature change from one to the other you can try all you want to put your hand down or touch it

1:18:03 It feels like it's gonna burn your hand off. It's just a weird phenomenon because of the extreme differences in each core, it shorts out your nervous system when you put your hand down on it and your nervous system doesn't know what to think and you get the feeling of intense burn Wow. Now you'll, now I have a and once you experience this with this little device and you can even try to push your hand on it uh it's impossible your body just jerks your hand back. Hmm! Now this exhibit is worth the price of admission at The Exploratorium but you will run into situations in the kitchen where there'll be something that's warm or something cold next to each other

1:18:48 And you will have the same, it'll happen in real life just coincidentally around the house. Every so often you'll think oh shit and you pull back And this happens constantly, well not constantly about once every month or two you'll have this effect. But that's what the effect is from. The location between warm and cold next to each other in a series and if you put your hand then get both senses at the same time then you react weirdly I just, that's what it brought to mind when the drop of sweat hit this woman. Somethings up with you... It's a nervous system short out Well you are correct that i thought your gonna talk about something else This I had not heard! This is new one A new story You never cease to amaze me darling

CHAPTER 25 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Social, Mastodon and Distributed Social Media

The hosts promote No Agenda Social and the Fediverse as the distributed future of social media. They highlight the creation of a specific Dutch Mastodon server (noagendasocial.nl) that allows users in the Netherlands to communicate in their native language while remaining part of the broader network.

mastodon· fediverse· no agenda social· netherlands· social media

1:19:36 I thought you were going to bring up spontaneous human combustion. That's my favorite topic No, this has got nothing to do with spontaneity...I can talk about spontaneous human combustion but no not today. I love those stories! Nothing but some shoes left Yeah usually Alright with that i'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you the man who put the sea into Christmas lockdown Ladies and gentlemen Mr John C DeVorez Well in the morning to you Mr. Adam Curry, in the morning all ships and sea boots on the ground feedin' the air subs and waterin' all the demons and knights out there! In the morning too... All the trolls we got hangin' out at trollroom dot I O That is where you can troll along it's a chat room that's not fancy in fact its very not fancy

1:20:28 But you can listen to the live stream of this show and many, most of Sunday's live now these days. In fact it's a kind of a live stream. Noahjenderstream.com, oops confused. You get the same thing at trollroom.io Let's see how many trolls are in there today with us. Hold on one second. Alright trolls! Oh look at them scurrying. I like the one with pink hair 2413. Not bad for a Sunday, that's almost two and half thousand trolls It's a troll convention! All right trolls, good to have you here. You can also follow us at noagendasocial.com it's adam at no agendasocial dot com John C Dvorak at noagendasocial dot com those are not email addresses those are ways that you can follow us on the Fediverse so you just need to have an account on a Mastodon server anywhere in fact if you're in the Netherlands you might want to check out noagendasocial.NL

1:21:30 So they've set up their own little Macedon so they can talk mainly in Dutch and do their things, but they can follow along the conversation. It can flow both ways that's how The distributed future of social media looks and we're already living it now That is no agenda social calm now Thanks to our artist who brought us the artwork for episode 14 08 We titled this Booster Blitz. It was interesting as we were choosing the art, there was one piece of art there that portrayed booster blitz in a glam-like setting which you immediately rejected saying that's not what the Ramones wore at all which of course is not what the Ramones wore but I think the intent there was from ballroom blitz which came from The Suite

CHAPTER 26 / 48 Discussion

Booster Macht Frei, Twitter Sensitive Content Warning

Twitter applies a "sensitive content" warning to the show's episode artwork, which depicted the gates of a concentration camp with the slogan "Booster Macht Frei." The hosts defend the art as a literal representation of current political rhetoric regarding vaccine-induced freedom.

twitter· dachau· concentration camps· political art· censorship

1:22:26 big 70s glam band however there was a better one out there, A very very very polarizing image. I cannot tell you how happy i am to see a piece of art evoke so much emotion this was the picture... I knew this would happen by the way well it was because I thought we might even get banned from Twitter or have it posted We got a note! We got tagged We got tagged. Uh, here it is. Somebody turned us in some fink! Some-some FINK! Some Nazi FINK turned us in!

1:23:02 We put a warning here, this is... It didn't get blocked it was just a little label underneath the image and it says we put a warning message on so they told me. We put more warning messages on these tweets because they might have sensitive content like nudity sexual content violence gore or hateful symbols. We know we don't always get it right so if you think we flagged your tweet by mistake You can appeal to warning by clicking each tweet keep in mind this doesn't guarantee will be removed And I thought to myself They're right. I'm okay with this flag It's just a flag is saying hey, this could trigger you even though it's right underneath the triggering part their algorithm when someone When someone reported it there algorithms thinking oh well you link to that we click on that image That's when the bad stuff comes no it was the image itself and this was The concentration camp it was at Dachau I think

1:23:56 I think it was Dachau that had... It could have been Dachau. It was either that or it may have been Auschwitz, more than one of these camps had the sign so it's the gate to sign over the gate and the original sign is Arbeit macht frei which means work gives you freedom And spook number 33, first win for him on the first submissions. Change that to booster macht frei which by the way if I had to argue with Twitter I would say this is literally... Booster gives freedom is literally what politicians are saying around the world now the addition of welcome to California that was kind of fun. Nice touch! Very nice touch

1:24:48 Just outstanding. Congratulations Spook Number Dirty Three who also sent a note, he says I can't believe that you know i got this right off the bat because he had sent me a note about a week ago said oh is this where I send you art? I said no you gotta register at NodeGen to Art Generator so he just did this and boom And he says, if a humble artist can request a shout out please give one for my two young and charismatic sons who live in Galicia Spain. Their names are Sean and Hans Well I don't know what you meant by uh he just did this because spook number dirty three has done about 25 pieces well that's what he said

1:25:30 Well, he's done pieces and he's done plenty of pieces that maybe that was his first for this day because he does a couple of Show okay. He's got the one with you in the bald head He did the one with the girl tied up on over-the-box which I like to maybe I misunderstood his email Yeah, he's done a bunch of pieces. He just hasn't been picked before And he also is fairly new to the game because he does art that shows the coronavirus with the spikes which is banned from being picked. I will veto anyone who does it, because one of the keys in art is that it has to be attractive

CHAPTER 27 / 48 Discussion

Thierry Baudet, Dutch Parliament Free Speech Restrictions

Dutch politician Thierry Baudet faces legal challenges and fines for comparing COVID-19 mandates to Nazi-era policies in Parliament. The hosts discuss the lack of absolute free speech in European parliaments, specifically regarding Holocaust comparisons and vaccine mandates in Germany and the Netherlands.

thierry baudet· netherlands· forum for democracy· holocaust comparisons· free speech

1:26:07 It can't be something that makes you cringe or want to get sick and throw up. Some people have sent stuff in like that, and that's not what we're trying to do here We're trying to put art that attracts you to the show not makes you sick your stomach In The Netherlands this was a very active topic there has been ongoing situation where I think we talked about this that Thierry Baudet who is he's in a party called the Forum for Democracy they were really big couple years ago and they got you know, they got a little smaller in the most recent election. Although there's still no government... Who knows what's going on there? But he had, you know, where is...? So he's definitely right of center and just like in the US, they're always making, in Parliament, they're always making comparisons to the Right and Hitler and all that. And then, of course with the mandates and lockdowns

1:27:09 This guy on the right is saying well you guys are acting like like Nazis and Hitler. Well, holy crap The whole the machinery had to stop they took it to a judge and the judge ruled He had two new ones how he speaks in Parliament Which to me is like are you kidding that so? You don't have freedom of speech in parliament And there's a fine for in Germany There's I think it's 25 euros a day if you do anything with Holocaust compared to vaccines or mandates in any way, 25 000 euros per day per infraction. The Netherlands very similar so I love this art it was it was very radical and I love that we got a

1:27:54 A warning label only drew more attention to it. There's that blue label in the timelines, and hey what's that? You'll probably get pulled over you probably get if you go to Germany now you're gonna get whacked. I'm gonna get whacked. And charged with $25,000 for that art We didn't do the art! Yes but i twatted it so as you know It's he who posted a tweet So uh... The other art you cut- you liked the one the little girl- the cheesecake with the pig No, no no. That was from the previous episode. You like that. Don't shove that on me I'll tell you what it wasn't that much for this particular... I mean I used Roger Roundy did a little piece of music

CHAPTER 28 / 48 Discussion

Podcast Artwork Standards, Evergreen Submissions

The hosts provide feedback to contributing artists, requesting that they submit versions of their work without show numbers to allow for "evergreen" use. They emphasize that the artwork must be attractive and avoid cringeworthy imagery like coronavirus spikes to better represent the show.

photoshop· podcast art· graphic design· value for value· submissions

1:28:43 illegible. There's a term for this type of typesetting which was done in the 60s I kind of liked it, they use it for the newsletter Which piece was that? Sick and tired of all this COVID crap! Oh yeah right right right It just definitely... The rest is a piece we didn't have a lot of stuff Well, there was a lot of stuff. It just wasn't really... There wasn't a lot of stuff to... yeah I mean a lot of people are doing multiple submissions And you know what? I'm gonna put this out there because i've said this before and I'll say it again If you're going to do a bunch of pieces that have the show number on them

1:29:28 Do an alternative piece without the show number of the same art. Yeah, yeah definitely because there's some evergreen stuff every once in a while somebody does what's really a dynamite evergreen piece but then they stick the show number on there and there's no alternative piece now I could take those pieces and drop them into Photoshop and scrape off to show number that's not impossible but i don't want to do that I'll skip it because it's just like, you know an extra layer of work that you know. I don't want to do well we really appreciate the art that Spook number 33 did well deserved I think everybody It's one of those moments at the time maybe without him even knowing and how perfect that timing was for the polar is the polarizing Moments on I mean the Dutch people like holy crap curry. I can't believe you're still on Twitter

1:30:20 Yeah, you know. Yeah see this is another thing This just shows you how pathetic things are out there when people say that to you This was a P and I did have the same feelings about it well when you because typically John starts looking in the art I usually take a quick bathroom trip because we all know John goes the bathroom during the meetups and And don't come back then can you say? Well, I know which one I want and you're not gonna like it And I like it. Yeah, that's what I did yeah and I did pick that piece and say exactly that. Yeah! And...and I hadn't even thought it through that far but I'm so happy we did. So anyway there you go this is why Value for Value works this is if we got a big benefit on this one and people bring their time their talent their treasure and make everything better for the entire product and this was perfect we appreciate that appreciate the work that all of our

CHAPTER 30 / 48 Discussion

Executive Producer Donations, Medical Professional Critiques

A donor from Valparaiso, Indiana, who is a medical professional, critiques the competence of public health officials like Anthony Fauci. Another major donation arrives from Amsterdam, leading to a discussion about the "Value for Value" model and the sanity provided by the show during the pandemic.

executive producer· indiana· med school· anthony fauci· amsterdam

1:35:31 I'll kick it off with Joe. Yeah, I'll kick it off with Joe who's from Valparaiso? Valparaiso Indiana! This doesn't even sound like an Indiana name. I think there is a Valparaiso Indiana. It has some of the screwiest town names. From Gnarbone my favorite to a whole slew of other ones My wife was born and bred in Indiana, so I never heard of this. Anyway Joe contributes $556.45, there might be something in there that explains this number and he has a couple of jingles here He wants a de-douching right off the bat happy to do it You've been dedouched! And request Sleepy Joe Obama you mind die Foutchewies and Kamala laughing And please add me to the birthday list for the 21st done couldn't think of a better way to celebrate my 36th trip around the Sun than to become an executive producer for The Best Podcast In The Universe

1:36:29 This Freedom Seed donation is but a fraction of the value I've received after hearing about a show from Adam's first appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience. And normally, I would skip an episode with... No Rogan Donation! Normally, I would skip an episode with an ex-MTV VJ I've never heard of But I'm sure glad I didn't. I haven't missed a show since You two have undoubtedly... this is how people think... Ah, some washed up MTV VJ Next I'm glad i didn't. I haven't missed a show since you two have undoubtedly helped keep me sane throughout the entirety of this pandemic, thank you very much! John speaking as a medical professional, I share your assessment of public health officials especially the docs like Fauci. I assure you they were not the most talented in their med schools. I suspect most are borderline incompetent and or too cowardly to try and make it in the real world

1:37:23 One more thing. Yeah, I love it when the doctors call each other out one more thing! I've heard Rush say many times that Millennials never want to pay for entertainment so it surprises me how many of us douchebag Millennials actually donate to the show? I guess some of the older ones aren't too bad Merry Christmas well Yes, I think that has changed over time. I find that once... Well we're not... yes but we're not... We are not Rush Limbaugh's show! Well no it's not... I'm saying Rush talked about specifically Millennials not wanting to pay for entertainment this show is more than entertainment it has an entertainment element No but people... And I will say my Millennials My Millennials

1:38:03 They constantly go to the movies, they pay for a lot of entertainment and then once in awhile they'll notice that I have... because I can't find it available for sale. I'll have some maybe a bootleg copy of an obscure song written in the 1920s And they will scold me for that so I don't buy into that And our... Dad, you should pay for that. You should pay for that! Our millennial producers are not your typical millennials That is the answer and since you asked... That's in there For such short jingles I do have a little mini supercut of the Camel laugh you requested Here we go! You might die!

1:38:47 No kidding So I didn't get a clip of this but you probably saw it, I mean... Oh! I do. I have a deconstruction of it

1:39:55 You're talking about with Charlemagne? Yeah. I got a deconstruction, we'll do it right after the donation. Okay well then we'll talk about that later on but she was beside... She was not laughing on that one! We'll do it after the donation! She wasn't laughing she was wagging her finger and as the reason why didn't clip is because I thought the visuals were more important than what she said What's interesting is what the M5M showed and what happened before and after Yeah, it's actually... yeah what happened before is quite good. Okay onward with Wouter van Diepen? Wouter Van Diepen! Ah, Wouter van Diepen very good. Wouter van Diepen in Amsterdam Netherlands $500 I can find no note from him you may have one because he would have sent it to you because your fellow Dutchman. He wasn't on the... hmm that is strange No I don't think

CHAPTER 31 / 48 Discussion

Hayward High School, Decline of Vocational Shop Classes

A donor's note about the "409" promotion sparks a nostalgic look at the history of vocational shop classes at Hayward High School. The hosts lament the disappearance of auto, metal, and agricultural programs in favor of a universal college-prep track, which they argue has left a gap in trade skills.

hayward high school· vocational training· auto shop· chevy 409· agriculture

1:40:47 Let me just double check for one more second. Why don't you read the next one and I'll uh... All right, the next one i do have a note from and this is Dennis Price who came in from Pine Grove California with 409 which was the special donation he's the only one who picked up on the promotion that picked up on the promotion and the thing is that I don't know. It wasn't the world's greatest promotion, somebody suggested that i do it and he is the only one who liked it. Who suggested? And I had a lecture in the newsletter about the 409 Did you ever own a Chevy 409? God no! I was a Ford guy So who suggested this brilliant idea? One of our producers sent in a note saying, hey 409 you know is my- you might find some old farts that you know remember the old 409 and nobody. Well there it is Dennis You're the fart! Dennis you're the fart here we go I have to read his whole note because it's actually educational

1:41:45 It's not really that long either. You hit a nerve this time, John. 409 donation on the way no jingles or mention unless you want to cut my lengthy email down to size is not that long and so I mentioned them anyway here we go i went to old hayward high which is out of school unfamiliar with since it was done in newark at the time And Hayward High was a fabulous high school in Hayward where it was like one of these monumental places that looked like Washington Monument. It had the big marble columns, beautiful school from a distance and then they tore down around 1995 and put up a piece of crap

1:42:25 You know, a bunch of lean twos. I went to old Hayward High and was in the Ag program. Hayward high had several shop classes i was talking about in the newsletter about shop... Right, and home economics and stuff yeah? Yeah Home X, auto shop, woodshop you know metal shop they had all these shops Hayward High, and they don't do that anymore because they don't want kids to learn anything. They just wanted them to become Democrats. Hayward High has several shops including auto and construction shops. We didn't have that at our schools. The construction shop built a complete small home taking kids through all the trades then the home kind of manufactured style would be auctioned and then moved to the new owner's foundation which ShopKidz also built

1:43:14 After graduation, the shop kids would slide into union apprentice programs and by their early 20s would be journeymen trade guys persons. In my case on the ag side we had a farm shop an egg shop in a horticulture shop old Hayward High had beautiful student landscaping we had 15 acre farm This is in the suburbs, this school. Acre Farm where we grew several crops and was a place for kids that didn't have room at home to have a project cow, sheep pigs or even chickens! Think about that in today's schools. Now you're going to college! That's right gender studies

1:44:01 Yeah, you're gonna take this. You're gonna take gender studies on the car side I had a 59 white red Chevy Impala small block 283 then a 62 red and Paula 409 And by the way when you were in high school in this era no one knows No one even knows what we're talking about they don't now but we all had cars like this Mm-hmm sure and there was big parking lots around these schools for the cars huge parking lots because every kid had a car and we're talking about 16 year olds 409 3 quarter inch, a three-quarter cam solid lifters that works. This was when car companies actually manufactured street ready hot rods I worked for my dad and paid him off myself after he gave me the down payment for the cars

1:44:48 As you mentioned, shop classes slowly disappeared because everyone was going to college. Fortunately for me I left my dad's construction business worked my way through college and myself on a 10-year plan and became a teacher in rural Amador County for about three hours which is three hours east of this of U in historic Sutter Creek the good news is that as small rural towns even here in California we still have shop classes today I know the shop teachers and they're still teaching auto shop, welding and farm shop. There is hope Dennis Price in Pine Grove. When i was in West Virginia at my alma mater

1:45:30 Salem College for three months. I had a Chevy Nova with a straight six which was the It's like six and half liters or something, but it wasn't the 409 It was it was like a 66 liter engine big six. They used to go big sexy That's what a college student needs That's your gas tank Gas of 25 cents a gallon back in the day Alright, so there's no jingles though. Give him a karma for that nice. Yeah is it good? I like that good note appreciate that you've got karma move on to Dustin Saner from Truro Iowa 333 dot 34 I need some courtroom Karma as the exes suing me to force the jab on my eight-year old Oh gosh

CHAPTER 33 / 48 Discussion

No Agenda Meetups, North Carolina and Missouri Gatherings

The hosts read notes from various meetups, including a 20-person gathering in Cary, North Carolina. Personal milestones are celebrated, such as a 12th wedding anniversary in Alabama and a donation from "That Larry Show" in California, emphasizing the community aspect of the production.

meetups· north carolina· missouri· oregon· anniversary

1:50:51 That's interesting. So he comes straight in, he is relatively new it has only been a couple of months He already got the numerology, he has got the 333, he is hosting meetups This! This my friends this is a natural born no agenda producer Jobs jobs job and jobs Let's vote for jobs! David Guio, I would say. G-U-I-O-T, Guio? David Guio Wildwood Missouri and 333 33 this is switcheroo ah Switcheroo for my lovely wife Elizabeth Okay Duly noted. I hit her in the mouth around the beginning of the year can you please dedouche her You've been dedouched

1:51:44 Her birthday is on Wednesday, so please add her to the list. It's done! Jingles biscuit on my birthday shut up slave and no. Ah tight we love it They always give me a biscuit all my birthday No As part of the random number theory Adam Adam rink comes in with 3 1 2 1 9 and he starts it off switcheroo Oh nose This donation is for my wife, Brandy Rink of 12 years today. She'll be driving home listening to the show John please tell her to pull over safely and check the glove box for her anniversary gift! Happy Anniversary! 12 Years and they never had a fight! Jingles request Biden take vaccine? No

1:52:37 Alabama, Alabama Obama you might die. John it's a scam and resist we much get vaccinated they always give me a biscuit on my birthday sorry about that I didn't mean to do that come back get vaccinated no donate what's wrong with you? resist we much And we will much about that be committed. You've got karma.

1:53:29 I'll cut all that out. Let me do it again, hold on. No! Leave it in! Of course I'm gonna leave it in...I always say I'll cut it out and never cut it out Ohhhh....I see And then I had them all picked and just.. I swiped the wrong way You might die then It's a scam And I had that one too I just picked all the wrong ones I don't know what happened Sorry Get vaccinated NO You might die Life is a scam But resist We must We must and we will much about that, be committed. That'll have to do." That's good enough. Barron Finch is next at 23456 from Portland Oregon becomes our first associate executive producer and he writes in hey all you spooks out there you hiring? John and Adam thank you jingles climate haiku two-to-the head boom shakalaka girl who she haven't heard for a long time

1:54:27 And karma with the twist of goat. Thank you, Baron Finch." So he's referring to the former head of the European Union when we started the show early. We called Herman whatever his last name was. We called him Haiku Herman. I think that haiku actually wasn't it a Japanese haiku that he did? I don't remember. Yeah, it was yeah He might have had a climate haiku but i couldn't find it so this will have to do Did he want the different one? He wanted the girl Boom shakalaka girl okay i think i have that one

1:55:15 Boomshakalaka. Nope, where did that go? Wow I've never heard that one! That- this is crazy... Uh was it this one? Boomshakalaka. No same one Bingo. BINGO BOOMSHAKALAKA. No boom sha- It was something oh Nick's Kid i think is what it was Gosh how do I remember this stuff uh Nick's yeah I was right. Boomshakalaka. Boomshakala- Nailed it You've got karma. Off the rails! Yeah, I am off the rails. Okay so yeah now i'm off the rails now we're at John Taylor from Florizonte Colorado and he's got a row of ducks two-two-two-two these ducks will fly me to the exalted rank of knighthood on my 53rd birthday which falls on today's show

1:56:12 On the last show day birthday I was still a multi-year douchebag. As such, I would like to call out Señor Vdos who hit me in the mouth years ago as an unrepentant douche bag! DOUCHE BAG! I would like to be Sir Vesa of the backside of Pike's Peak. I would like Rocky Mountain Oysters and Paradox Scully barrel number 61 Cafe Vibrante Sour coffee ale for the round table. Okay, we had a 62 I'll ask him for the 61 Jingles ah here it is John scary donate you see Then for some reason little girl no, I'm not sure why douchebag and then a biscuit for my birthday Donate! Donate!

1:57:04 No, they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. There you go He left the douchebag out. Oh yeah, we'd already done the douche bag but I Think in this series it went like this to ask to donate the girl says no and then she's called that as a douche bag Let's try the story again, I'm sorry Donate! Donate! They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. There we go, there we go Mike Sopko in Belmar New Jersey $200 and 76 cents is a nice short note he wrote it on paper proof greetings from the Jersey Shore enjoy your podcast helps get me through these crazy times I would like to request health karma for my beautiful wife Diane thanks Mike and then he has a PS at the end

1:58:06 that says P.S., by the way, Jack Wan. Jack Wan? Yeah J-A-C-K W-O-N Or Jack One Well it could be Jack One or Jack Wan but Jack Wan is a good Chinese name seems to me So So what does that mean? What do I do with this information? It's just a by the way PS. You're confusing me, this information is too detailed! That Larry show from Tozana California $200 associate executive producership and that Larry show says to Adam & John

CHAPTER 34 / 48 Discussion

Knighting and Daming Ceremony, Dame Kenny Ben

Kendra Lamott is officially dubbed "Dame Kenny Ben, Keeper of the Cairns" during the show's knighting ceremony. The hosts grant her and Sir Vesa of Pikes Peak their official titles and virtual roundtable refreshments, acknowledging their significant financial support of the program.

knighthood· daming· cairn terriers· pikes peak· roundtable

1:58:45 $200 you guys do three things that deliver exponential value one You fearlessly tell the truth two. You always make it entertaining three, you make us realize we are not alone Thanks and Merry Christmas from That Larry Show And he actually comes in a card and the card says That Larry Show on it so that Larry show Oh, that's sexy We don't have cards No, we don't that Larry show calm we need cards we do Alright, then we move on to Kendra Lamott in East Haven Connecticut. For 200 bucks she'll be our last Associate Executive Producer for show 1409 John and Adam wishing you both a Merry Christmas This donation officially makes me a Dame Oh wait! She's not on the list Well here it comes I would like to be known as CS Dame Kenny

1:59:44 Kenny Ben, I'm sorry Dame K- start over. Dame Kenny Ben keeper of the Cairns, but it's spelled c a i r n s. Keeper of the Cairns? I am referring to the Cairn Terriers! The adorable dogs not that nasty women known as Cairn requesting health karma for my upcoming surgery aww That's right, she was in the hospital. She was sick for a while. We were rooting for her. She was in hospital! For the round table she'd like a lemon-tini and sushi. Lemon-tini and sushi. Lemon-tini is good drink. Love is lit, she says. I love me a good lemon-tini.

2:00:39 She has a very cute note card by the way with kind of an image over at the top. Well she's one of our top artists so you'd expect her to have something fun and like a real calling card, y'know? No slouch here! You know what's interesting about this note is it's handwritten and it's leaning to the right. It's the whole thing is like uh oh... You can just turn the card a little bit. It'll be okay or just look at the ground and you won't feel dizzy anymore It's very simple Thank you very much executive producers and associate executive producers for this episode, which is 1409 of The No Agenda Show. Are you gonna give Karen her health karma? I'm gonna give her a big ass health karma. I'm gonna throw some goat in too she needs it. You've got... Karen Karma Sorry I called you Karen for a second there sir

2:01:27 I'm gonna do another Karma just because we're talking over it. One more. There you go. Ooh, a double hit! Thank you. We'll see two of you at the roundtable in the second donation segment for your well-deserved night and daming, and these are official titles that we don't just say these things executive producer now we mean it we title it that way you get an official credit It's valid anywhere credits are accepted which is most Hollywood outfit But also you might impress just some bigger company or maybe a small or maybe someone at the bar

2:02:03 It always works. Put it on your business card, do something with it put in your profile people recognize it you may also meet fellow travelers so these things are all bonuses and we really appreciate today's execs and associate execs for checking in and helping us out and thanking more people in our second segment coming up. If you'd like to be an executive producer here's where you go. Dvorak dot org slash N A Thank you for your time, talent and treasure with no agenda! Our formula is this we go out or hit people in the mouth. Order! Get back city! Shut Up State! Okay the Charlemagne bit before we forget

CHAPTER 35 / 48 Discussion

Kamala Harris and Charlamagne Tha God, "Real President" Dispute

Vice President Kamala Harris has a tense exchange with radio host Charlamagne Tha God after he asks if Joe Manchin is the "real president." Harris's aide, Symone Sanders, attempts to shut down the interview citing technical difficulties, but Harris eventually responds with a firm defense of the Biden administration.

kamala harris· charlamagne tha god· joe manchin· simone sanders· the breakfast club

2:03:01 Yeah, let's do a background on it so people know what we're talking about. The background is Charlemagne Tha God who is one of the number one morning shows certainly urban radio as we call it urban radio We can't say black guys Urban format The breakfast show was very very very popular seven to eight million people listen and he also does a show a television show streaming which I want to say is on Disney plus It's streaming somewhere. I don't think so. Where is it? I don't know why i'm thinking that This on YouTube anyway, okay well He's basically a YouTuber now and he had Vice President Kamala Harris on the show Now what was interesting...well actually here is A report as the M5M reported

2:03:56 where he asked the vice president a question and she answered it with a big-ass finger wag. The Vice President did snap back at radio host Charlemagne Tha God after he suggested Joe Manchin is really the one pulling the strings Who's the real president of this country? Is it Joe Manchin or Joe Biden, Madam Vice President. Come on Charlamagne. I really- It's Joe Biden. No no no no no! It's Joe Biden and don't start talking like a Republican about asking whether he is president Do you think Joe Manchin is the problem? And its Joe Biden and I'm vice president my name is Kamala Harris That little bit there

2:04:39 That really shows who she is, doesn't it? Oh it was pathetic. And I'm Vice President Kamala Harris... I want to hear your analysis because I heard one analysis that- because I watched a bunch of these analyses and I heard one that I thought was pretty accurate and But I think it'll follow best after you hear what... because you had the pre-clip, the earlier stuff. He's trying to get through her and they're trying to arouse her is a very interesting dynamic going on there trying to get her handlers trying to get off the stage. Well our handler is none other than

2:05:17 Simone Sanders who quit after this, yes who probably quit after this and you'll hear it he asked the question and then all of a sudden it's like oh technical difficulties. Who is the superhero that will speak against Joe Manchin? I want to know who the real president in his country is it Biden or Joe Manchin I'm sorry, I just want to interrupt. It's Simone! I'm so sorry Charlie, we have to wrap- She can hear me That's Simone Can you hear me? This is always a good one. I can't here you. Can you hear me? I can't hear you. Can you hear me? Can you hear me ma'am? My friend here? Okay, well I'm sorry You got to wrap So I'm sorry to interrupt They're acting like they can't hear me

2:06:04 I can hear you. So who's the real president of this country? Is it Joe Manchin or Joe Biden, Madam Vice President? Come on Charlamagne! It's Joe Biden. No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Are you sure? I'm pretty sure, but you can play. Let's be double sure. No no no no no. You're right it was in there. And it's Joe Biden and I am vice president my name is Kamala Harris and the reality is because we are in office We do the things like the child tax credit which is going to reduce black child poverty by 50% on track to do that

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Symone Sanders Resignation, Analysis of Harris Interview Failure

The hosts analyze the fallout of the Charlamagne interview, suggesting that Symone Sanders' resignation was linked to the Vice President's poor performance. They argue Harris misheard the question as a Republican challenge to the 2020 election's legitimacy, leading to her aggressive and "bent out of shape" response.

symone sanders· kamala harris· political strategy· republican rhetoric· resignation

2:06:59 We do things that are about saying that our Department of Justice is going to do these investigations and require that we end chokeholds and have body cameras. It is the work of saying, we're gonna get lead out of pipes in paint because our babies are suffering because of that. It is the work of saying people who ride public transit deserve the same kind of dignity than anybody else does so let's improve that system It is the work of saying that we have got to bring down prescription drug costs because folks who have diabetes... I want you to know that, that Madam Vice President, that Kamala Harris. That's the one I like. That was putting pressure on people in Senate hearings. That's the one I'd like to see more often out here in these streets. Thank you for joining us, Madam Vice President. I'm glad to be with you. Absolutely

2:07:51 Alright, so here's my assessment is this was as per usual. Was scripted, was set up she had all her answers to address black problems like somehow that the child tax credit or checks whatever they're gonna do 50% of black babies! Black babies! Black people! Everyone should be able to ride on the bus because you know black people sit in the back And he just threw her for a loop and her brain went hair wires like why is this guy not sticking to the script? And Simone Sanders knew it the minute, the minute he started to do it. Now why he did that is probably Democrat Party chicanery trying to make Kamala look bad which of course resulted in Simone Sanders quitting so that's what I got

2:08:40 Okay, well there's one little additional thing that I- that one guy one of these guys picked up on and i thought he nailed it. Because of the confusion where Simone Sanders is stepping on everything at the very end there... The question that he- Oh! I know this! I know yeah okay go ahead I got it yep She heard his Joe Biden president think and that's why she referred to Republicans She thought he was asking if the election was not rigged and Trump should have been the president, and all that kind of thing came back to her because she thought that's what he was asking her. And that's why she said no Joe Biden is the president! Why are you talking like a Republican?

2:09:25 And so she got bent out of shape because she thought instead of asking to be, she didn't hear the Joe Manchin part. Because he was trying to make the point well who's running a thing if Joe Manchin has this much power that's what it was trying to ask but she never heard that part all she heard was that this is an illegitimate election like your Republicans keep saying and so she got her bent out of shape and then she blew up! I believe that that's exactly what happened Yeah, as you were saying that I was thinking maybe she was thinking like am i the president? My name's Kamala Harris and she had to remind herself. I'm the vice president no yeah you're probably right that seems like what happened so she actually didn't hear it because Simone was yapping over her yep yeah interesting And here is an additional element

2:10:17 Harris probably reviewed this afterwards and realized the mistakes she had made, and she fired Simone. Ooh yes! There's no leaving? Yeah she is such a political beast that Simone Sanders you're right why would why would she leave of all people nah yeah good one alright we're done here Good work. This is what we do! Well, I'm gonna take it one step further let's let's do one more deconstruction while we're at it you had an outstanding clip that we laughed about about the virtue signaling and the really I would say rude rude women at NPR who interviewed the Taliban leader

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NPR Taliban Interview, Cultural Misunderstandings and Islamophobia

An NPR interview with a Taliban official in Doha is criticized for the reporters' lack of cultural awareness. A Muslim producer explains that the official's refusal to make eye contact was a sign of Pashtun respect and discipline, rather than a sign of female oppression as the NPR reporters implied.

npr· taliban· doha· islam· cultural customs

2:11:01 and really felt it important to make themselves part of the story. Here's a quick redux of your clip of NPR Taliban interview. So before we get to the substance of your interview, may I ask you just take us inside this meeting with a Taliban official? Who was he and where did ya'll meet? Sure! His name is Naeem Wardak He is the spokesperson for the Taliban political office And we met at a hotel in Doha. He was very courteous, we made small talk about the weather and traffic We sat around a large conference table for the interview. My colleague, Hannah Block was also there and both she and I did not cover our hair for the interview. We spoke with Wardock for over 40 minutes. The interview was entirely in Arabic he answered all of our questions in detail And while he mostly looked down as he was speaking He did also make the occasional eye contact. Okay? I can picture it. I feel like I'm there with you

2:11:57 Oh my god, I can picture it. You don't have that... your hair is showing the man is getting nervous he couldn't even look at you as a woman I can picture it So as with all things we go to our producers to find out exactly what was going on in this case one of our producers came to you if you want to know about Islam well let's talk to Sir Animas of Dogpatch and Lower Slobovia who sent me a note about this And he said the complete lack of understanding of culture during that interview is insulting. He's Muslim

2:12:35 The boys in the culture are raised not to look or stare at women that are not an immediate relative. Senior leaders may be murderous assholes and will encourage stoning for infidelity, but if a woman is walking down the street you'll give way and not look at her." The Pashtun reference didn't look out of courtesy and respect... Didn't look out of courtesy and respect, not disrespect Many of the women I know from that region may seem demure, but under those burkas are knives and glocks and men know it. Men will kill brothers and nephews over insults but only a father can kill a daughter if she leads a corrupt lifestyle." A quote bad woman

2:13:23 Protected by her family is usually left alone and protected by pardah customs that keep them separate anyway. Not meeting eyes was respect toward that woman, Western women often take eye avoidance as a sign of their strength while tribal men believe it demonstrates their strength and discipline of being polite and reserved by not staring at them Ask men who serve they exchange dark glasses for yellow sniper glasses to reduce suspicion of soldiers staring at the women That sets a couple things straight, doesn't it now? Absolutely. Thank you Sir Onymous! It also indicates that the Taliban when they first started taking over they had a press conference which was something they never do and I would think and maybe Onymus could clear this up that you could put together some intermediaries that could do these sorts of things

2:14:22 and follow Western customs to be a little more, you know in line with the negotiations that make it work a little better. Because we do that in the United States and some of the West We do a lot of sociology about foreign cultures and try to adopt their ways when doing negotiations is part of a sales trick you're going to get good at sales. You don't want to go into and insult people, so you have to follow the other person's character their worldview, so you adopt to them. These two these women these reporters obviously didn't do any of that which is a mistake and the Taliban guy didn't either so it's just like a mess. So he created this situation. You're asking for trouble! A mess but I would have to say NPR is Islamophobic That's what that was It's Islamophobia Yeah yeah that's good very good point So NPR? You Islamophobic cuck stop it

CHAPTER 38 / 48 Discussion

Kabul Drone Strike Accountability, Rear Admiral John Kirby

Pentagon spokesperson Rear Admiral John Kirby announces that no individual military members will face discipline for the botched drone strike in Kabul that killed ten civilians, including seven children. The hosts express outrage at the lack of accountability and the "disgraceful" nature of the procedural breakdown.

john kirby· pentagon· kabul· drone strike· accountability

2:15:27 Let's stay in Afghanistan just briefly. Kirby, our rear admiral there... Had to make a statement because yeah it turns out that drone strike and we killed the guy with the water bottles And I know 12 13 other people you know cause the ruckus kids a bunch of kids You know hey men are bad How does it strike you that no one is held accountable? Because they know how it strikes a lot of people around the world that you can get away with murder and nobody's punished for It. I do understand that We appreciate that not everybody who's gonna support this decision What I can tell you is we looked at this thing very, very comprehensively. And again we acknowledge that there were procedural breakdowns processes were not executed the way they should have been but it doesn't necessarily indicate that an individual or individuals have to be held to account for that. But look... Is there discipline inside the Pentagon? Maybe no charges brought up but has anyone demoted or disciplined for what happened that day?

2:16:23 No, there's not going to be individual discipline as a result of this Willie. But what we are gonna do is learn from this and we're going to enact and improve our procedures in our processes to try to make sure this doesn't happen again A disgrace of epic proportions! A general someone should resign over this It's disgraceful how this has been... Yeah but it's disgraceful Children died I don't care if they're brown and live in the desert They can They're children. There's no reason it was an epic mistake, it was bullcrap to start with the whole operation was poorly planned someone should step down perhaps some multiple people should step down. No one is stepping down they are going to lose their pension and they are not going have this cushy job. I understand but I'm just showing a little bit of outrage where Kirby's like oh you know no one's gonna be really disciplined we're just taking... It's unacceptable

2:17:20 I send a check in April too, you know. It's unacceptable that this took place and no one... And you know what? How about this! I would be very happy if Kirby stepped down. Just you. Why don't you jump on the grenade, Kirby? Rear Admiral. Yeah, Kirby. Kirby. Kirby. Sometimes just makes me mad So on another note, I had got a little bitty clip here from NPR, it's about the educational people. Schools are gonna start closing schools again. And I found a little segment here just a little part where they left the word out this is the schools I got spelled SC, Schools Learning Virtually

CHAPTER 39 / 48 Discussion

Austin Smash-and-Grab Robberies, California Influence in Texas

A "smash-and-dash" robbery at Barton Creek Mall in Austin is cited as evidence of California's negative influence on Texas. The hosts blame the rise in such crimes on progressive district attorneys, specifically those supported by George Soros, who they claim refuse to prosecute criminals.

austin· texas· smash and grab· george soros· barton creek mall

2:18:10 It's alright, I'll never find the clip again. Nothing. They've learned virtually nothing! Hold on... The White House is concerned about major disruptions at hospitals and schools due to Omicron, and they outlined a plan to prevent what we saw last year which is most children learning virtually. Nothing. Learning virtually nothing. It's so true. Virtually nothing people you know?

2:18:52 California, what is the... we moved out of Austin. We've been gone for five months now more or less What is the number one thing that Texans say about the new people coming to Austin? I mean you probably don't know necessarily but could probably guess In fact there's T-shirts It's like hey please don't California my Texas Yeah, I've heard this. So we're expecting that people come in now they of course they have California Texas a bit certainly Austin my pet peeve is the and mainly women who make reservations at multiple restaurants weeks sometimes months in advance leave them sitting there so no one else can get a reservation

2:19:40 And then just let them go and even pay the $10 fee if there's one. They don't care, so they don't care about people. Well you know what they've done out here which you should adopt? It's not a ten dollar fee! They take your credit card and charge it for what would be paid for full meal if you don't show up Some of these people probably wouldn't even mind that. You can cancel, you can cancel so they're not gonna take your money but you have to give them 24 hours at least Well it should... the practice is just rude It's just rude But um They've now- This is a why take a chance practice this isn't the same like the health department Why take a chance? Just shut everything down! Why take a chance I don't want to be blamed They brought the ultimate California experience to Austin last night

2:20:26 This is interestingly a place that Tina and I have frequented quite often. Austin police are still searching for the robbers they say smashed and dashed at Barton Creek Mall last night, escaped with jewelry from the Hellsberg Diamond store and prompted an evacuation after people started calling 911 saying someone was firing shots Those reports were mistaken. Overnight, APD confirmed nobody ever fired a weapon rather the sounds where the suspects beating the hardened glass inside of the store and this morning we're getting a look at the chaos inside the mall as it was happening Nobody was hurt though No, nobody was hurt though and no one will ever go to jail because another thing we have in common with California in Austin is a district attorney Brought to you by George Soros. Everyone gets all free. It's a good turny that won't file anything So thanks California We got our smashing grabs here now too. Well You know these ideas are they're just too good to keep them one place Hey when there's looting at the top there's looting at the bottom it's so obvious

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San Francisco Car Burglaries, Catalytic Converter Theft

The discussion covers reports of San Francisco residents leaving their car trunks open to deter window smashing. This is compared to 1980s Manhattan, where drivers left "no radio" signs in windows, though the hosts note that modern thieves are more interested in stealing catalytic converters.

san francisco· car burglary· catalytic converters· manhattan· crime

2:21:31 This has kind of ended around here for some reason, something's changed. Well now people are leaving the trunks of their cars open in San Francisco Can you confirm this is taking place? Because there are a couple stories that I've seen about it Yeah i can confirm its not taking place That's interesting. Nobody is leaving the trunks of their cars open They have pictures of cars with their trunks open Oh you know, hey buddy can you take your car and open the trunk? And oh you! Can you open your truck and then go back to take a photo Bull crap I remember in the mid-to late 80s when i was in Manhattan New York

2:22:09 Which was probably, well we didn't have the same amount of homeless congregated on Skid Row although there's some pretty interesting iffy areas. 7th Avenue is an example Times Square You'd see cars, and I remember distinctly because I came from Amsterdam all of a sudden. I'm in Manhattan and every single car that was parked on the streets of Manhattan would have a sign And the sign would say no radio No valuables! And the glove box would be opened Yep The glove box will be opened Because back in the day people would steal your radio Now they don't need to get into car They just take the catalytic converter Yeah That's the problem

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Ghislaine Maxwell Trial, Defense Rests Without Testimony

Ghislaine Maxwell declines to testify in her own defense as her sex trafficking trial in Manhattan winds down. The defense called a memory expert to challenge the victims' accounts, while the hosts speculate that Maxwell is the true "black widow" and intelligence asset at the center of the Epstein operation.

ghislaine maxwell· jeffrey epstein· sex trafficking· memory expert· manhattan

2:22:53 Yeah. Ah, the good old days... I'm telling ya! Alright what else we got here on the list? Well i just have a quick one just to mention and remind people you know the Ghislaine Maxwell I have a clip of this. Oh you have a clip? Oh good, well let's see where is it... Yeah it's the Maxwell Clip It gives the closing of it. Brilliant minds think alike This is why there are two of us. Maxwell says she will not testify in her criminal sex trafficking trial The ex-girlfriend and long time associate of convicted sex offender the late Jeffrey Epstein made the announcement herself as her trial winds down in New York

2:23:29 Galane Maxwell is accused of recruiting underage girls and grooming them for Epstein to sexually abuse. She pleaded not guilty. Authorities say Epstein killed himself in prison two years ago. Maxwell's lawyers say she is being used as a scapegoat for accusations against him The defense rested their case today, setting the stage for closing arguments to start on Monday CBC's Valerie Castro live outside the courthouse in Manhattan Valerie? What are you learning?! Shep Maxwell was given about an hour to decide if she wanted to take the stand in her own defense. She eventually stood up and told the judge, your honor, the government has not proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt so there is no reason for me to testify. The defense wrapped up its portion of the case this afternoon after

2:24:15 calling witnesses over the last two days. Today one of those witnesses included one of Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriends, Ava Dubin who remained a long lifetime friend she testified she never saw Epstein engage in inappropriate conduct with a minor The defense has repeatedly called into question the memories of the four alleged victims in this case and yesterday they called a memory expert to the stand. She testified that memories can be fragile and that they can be manipulated In cross-examination, the prosecution pointed out that out of the 150 criminal cases that this expert has testified all but one have been for the side of the defense

2:24:54 Other witnesses included former employees who say Maxwell was demanding but well respected and never saw any inappropriate contact between her and any minors. I have thoughts about this, do you have anything? She's going to get off! Here is my quick take people's bias and misinformation has clouded their vision. I could've done another Scott Adams bid on this because he also went into the gislaying thing your bias is getting in the way somehow Many people believe that only men can be horrible monsters. The black widow in the middle of the web is the person alive! This is the true Blackmailer, she IS the problem and she had Epstein killed or it was killed on her behalf She has a dead man switch. She knows where all the bodies are buried

2:25:54 This is the woman and they haven't even really considered that. Oh no, she recruited women No She pretty much did everything she maintained the computer. She maintained the archives She's does the spook family and in the whole world is like oh well You know all she recruited hundreds good this so much more that will never know from this trial And it's sad that everyone just won't focus on what to me is plainly obvious. She is the one, not Epstein! Well that's an interesting observation you would be removed from the jury immediately We want to remove juror number 33 Number 33?

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Viagra and Alzheimer's Research, Pfizer Correlation Study

A study published on Science Friday suggests a 69% reduction in Alzheimer's disease among users of Viagra (sildenafil). The hosts dismiss the report as a Pfizer promotional effort, arguing that the correlation does not prove causation and represents the "pathetic" state of modern science reporting.

viagra· alzheimer's· pfizer· sildenafil· science friday

2:26:43 Thank you. Thank you for your service. Hey, good news John! Good news is that you and I are getting up there in age. We're up there in the years and it's like we've got a couple of things to worry about You and I equally, by the way. Especially considering my performance during the jingles today in the donation segment. New research has found that chances of developing Alzheimer's disease was decreased by using what? Viagra? That's right, viagra this drug that itself was also formed by- Yeah it is an old story named sildenafil as well. It was initially developed as a blood pressure drug and it's all later found that it could also treat erectile dysfunction, so a group of researchers actually looked at insurance claims from more than seven million patients and they found that they saw an association over 69% reduction in Alzheimer's disease among viagra users. I love this because it's so obviously a Pfizer promo. Pfizer! Pfizer! These guys are

2:27:44 Yeah, and the reason why you know is because this is not... This on Science Friday on NPO. Oh science! Hey the Science Friday guys! Science says that Viagra stops Alzheimer's and we know that because science knows Because Pfizer said look at the correlation, not causation but the core... this is your climate change people. The correlation! So just because people who take Viagra less of them have or develop Alzheimer's doesn't mean it's causation

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Small Donor Acknowledgments, Global Producer Support

The hosts read a list of donors contributing under $200, acknowledging producers from Nevada, Arizona, Ohio, and Ontario. They highlight the diverse geographic reach of the "No Agenda" audience and thank the "Gitmo Nation" for their continued financial support.

sparks nevada· phoenix arizona· ontario· arkansas· leveland texas

2:28:21 And this is science, Science Friday. Yeah, this is pathetic! This is the kind of science we're getting now. Now we do have a few people to thank. A little shortfall today on the NOAA Gender Show 1409409 Rita Harrington, Sparks Nevada came in with $164 she's got her birthday and she says it's her birthday actually the 20th Sir Verms or Werms W-E-R M-E-S so one hundred dollars and sixty nine cents out of Phoenix Arizona Barry Boniface in Newport News Virginia one hundred dollars and fifty five cents

2:29:10 Markayla E. King in Menifee, California. Huh? Thanks for a year of entertainment Matthew Smith $99.99 in North Royalton Ohio Sir Kev- Uh oh! Guess who's here? Who is here? Sir Kevin McLaughlin the Duke of Luna The Lover Of America and Boobs A008 David pardon in Pensacola Florida 75 Heather Johnson $75 from Lincoln Nebraska Sean Thorpe inside and Louie abyss bow. The 6670 6667 david groff in Wyoming Ohio 6180

2:29:56 Tim Ratter in Woodstock, Ontario 5510. Dean Roecker, Sir Dean Roecker 5510 Daniel Mariano 5510 John Fitzpatrick in Heber Springs Arkansas uh 5510 Jackson Butler 5150 and he's in Leveland, Texas. He wants a job as karma for everyone and we'll put that at the end for you. Kevin O'Brien is $50 in Chicago Ohio and all these people are 50 dollars to name the location if

2:30:32 appropriate if I can find it actually. Starting with Kevin O'Brien and Scott Lavender, Sir Scott in Montgomery Texas David Burton in Cincinnati Ohio Andrew Gusick sir Andrew in Greensboro North Carolina Marie La Bruyere in Kennett Square Pennsylvania Metula Rainwater in Waukegan, Illinois. Jessica Young in Yuba City California Natalie Amato and Round Lake Minnesota with a birthday. Surger Winginroth in Saugus California Leanna Shipley in Covington Washington last but not least Surspud the Mighty

2:31:11 Marietta, Georgia. I want to thank these folks for producing and helping get show 1409 or 1409 off the ground. Thank you very much! Very much appreciated everybody thank you for this support thanks to people under 50 who do that to remain anonymous because we guarantee that sometimes will pick up a note from the second donation segment it's not guaranteed We do have some make goods or something in this area. Yeah, and I want... not that I just wanna make sure he's okay Sir Anthony Seven, Viscount of Hamilton He was doing his six donations towards the end of the year And he didn't show up today. I just wanna make sure he is okay. I have no idea if he is okay Oh, maybe...I don't know

CHAPTER 44 / 48 Discussion

Louisville Local 8008, Engagement and Nut Fisting

A detailed report from the Louisville Local 8008 meetup describes a gathering at Beernose Pizza where a couple announced their engagement. The note also touches on "nut fisting" dramatizations and a dispute over the "Boob Brand" title among different listener chapters.

louisville· kentucky· engagement· ivermectin· boob brand

2:31:56 Yes, let's take a look at these make goods. I have one here this is oh this is the Louisville local 808 we missed this one on the the previous show. Earl Mittens of a world distant here sending salutations to all of Gitmo Nation vis-a-vis the December 4th meetup donation collection in the name of the Louisville local 8008, Local Boom! All right yeah that's right I claim full responsibility for the nearly two week tardiness of this tender and request to be called out as a douchebag. Explanation then or excuses that would add rationale to the delay will take a backseat for now in lieu loquaciousness I prefer bullet points

2:32:41 What is this? Ten tried and true producers of the best podcast in the universe gathered at Beernose Pizza where the most would decimate some pie. Jeff was busy baking while Amy was the heroine solo server on the floor, spin a couple of yarns and ogle ivermectin rations I thought my copy of Dvorak predicts would be the most fondled item at the table but only after my demands to record selections for our forthcoming recap did it really gain traction The spirit of northern Silicon Valley would fly high when it came to nut fisting dramatizations. The gravel graciously plopped two cans of Costco varietals on the table upon arrival." Yes, that's the fisting nuts you know Maxine Waters' gravel has a whole fisting nuts operation going on

2:33:26 So brought the nuts. The aforementioned Army deserves a de-douching for... Amy deserves a de-douching for her 3333 contribution to the collection plate. You've been de-douched! Oh, and congrats are in order for her daughter and soon-to-be son while they showed up near closing time and announced their engagement. Aww how nice is that? This should have been on audio at least This is already too long and will likely be sent around the time Adam nails Cinco de Mayo for this episode. That's too late! So, peep game word is there's another locale claiming boob brands? BooBrandWrites I vaguely remember a call out from said group a year ago or two ago... could it possible which is ancient in these time distorted dystopian days thus in the same breath- This is why your email's long okay you put in time distorted dystopian days

2:34:18 Thus, in the same breath that I apologize to our chapter for not yet completing the oral artifact of our hang. I humbly ask that Duke of Luna Lover of America and boobs be the arbiter who designates the rightful teat team. Louisville love is lit and such thank you very much thank you so much We didn't have emails for Wouter van Diepen or Dennis Price, but I think that satisfies everything and a final jobs karma for all. Jobs! Jobs! Jobs and jobs! Let's vote for jobs! You've got karma And remember to support us for the next show!

CHAPTER 45 / 48 Discussion

Birthday Celebrations, Upcoming January Meetup Schedule

The hosts read the birthday list for the week and announce a series of upcoming meetups in New Mexico, Colorado, Wisconsin, and Connecticut. They emphasize that these gatherings are "good for your health" and provide a necessary social antidote to the "mass formation" of the pandemic.

birthdays· new mexico· colorado· wisconsin· connecticut

2:34:59 It's your birthday, birthday. Oh no, I can't come... Well this is the list that we have for today Natalie Amato celebrates today Rita Harrington will be celebrating tomorrow the 20th Mary Boniface will be 55 tomorrow Joe will be 36 on the 21st Antonio Anselmo who'll be celebrating on the 21st as well and David Guillot says happy birthday to his lovely wife Elizabeth We say that as well Happy Birthday from everybody here at The Best podcast in the universe. One day, one night perfectly balanced equity is what we're all about. I get the equity sword right here

2:35:41 Up on the podium, please John Taylor and Kenny Van Candra both of you set to join our illustrious Roundtable of the no agenda dames and knights and well-deserved thank you for supporting this show in the amount of $1,000 or more And I'm proud to pronounce the KD cerveza of the backside of Pikes Peak And Dame Kenny Ben, keeper of the Cairns. For you we've got Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay by special request Rocky Mountain Oysters & Paradox Scully Barrel No. 61 Cafe Vibrante and Lemontini & Sushi along with some vodka vanilla bong hits and bourbon sparkling cider nesquik ginger ale and gerbils aaaand of course... The Mutton in Mead

2:36:24 Both of you head over to noagendanation.com slash rings Get all the information in there so Eric can get that out those out to as soon as possible We do we got new rings coming? So You'll be able to sport those at your next the next meetup speaking of meetups And the party will be happening today. In fact, not long from now, Stand Tall Sunday at 3 o'clock Mountain Time calling Northern New Mexico and Southern Colorado to the Roland Smoke Garage Barbecue Also today the No Agenda TMI EVAC Zone 333 PM just about to kick off in Central PA and Northern Maryland Lydia Stone Brewing is where you want hang out York Haven PA

2:37:13 The Slaves of Southern Californistan, 3.33pm today Sandys Beach Shack in Huntington Beach California tomorrow This really is a madtown meetup that's 6.30pm Central Time Club Lamarck in Madison Wisconsin on Tuesday Resist We Much SenCal no agenda monthly 2.30 Pacific Barrel House Brewing Company tap room at River Park and Fresno Also on Tuesday, the local 203 Winter in Connecticut. Mmm! With nice lights 530 Eastern Time Republican Kitchen Monroe, Connecticut and on Thursday That'll be show day no agenda Silicon Valley 333 p.m.. At the Smoke Backroom in San Jose Can you make it? Is that too far San Jose is a pain right

2:37:55 San Jose. It's a trek, yeah it's a trek and then just winding it out so that's Thursday we don't have anything scheduled for the night before Christmas day or really until the 31st when we hit South Jersey and then on January 1st Oregon local 33 Philly will be on the first and we have plenty of meetups booked through the month of January into Boston on February 5th This is so important. If you get good, if you feel good from listening to the show... ...you're gonna feel great when you go to a meetup

2:38:33 It's the same vibe, only without that mass formation lack of social contact. You're actually interacting with people. Noagendameetups.com they are good for your health they're important and if you can't find one near you then just start one yourself! noagendameetups.com guaranteed like a party! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days Okay, you got ISOs? I got a couple. Whatcha got? I don't think my isos are great... Nah, mine aren't great either but what do ya got? Okay let's go with uh... Uh... Thank- Oh no! Jerked Around Tired of being jerked around so

CHAPTER 46 / 48 Discussion

Senator John Kennedy, Dale Ho Judicial Hearing

Senator John Kennedy grills judicial nominee Dale Ho during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. Kennedy focuses on Ho's past tweets, including one calling Republicanism an "anti-democratic virus," leading to a confrontation about the "coarseness" of political discourse and Ho's fitness for the federal bench.

john kennedy· dale ho· judicial committee· twitter· republicanism

2:39:31 Sorry to be in jerked around. Okay, this one here I think is a good end of show because it's simply a thank you Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, let's see if we have something to compete with that. Um, I draw the line at podcasts Hmm little too noisy muddy No, no. Uh this one maybe? No, no, no, no Okay I can go with that one One more, one more, one more I think it really destroyed my brain Mmm toss up Toss up! That's the one! Toss up! No it destroyed my brain is perfect It sounds like us doesn't it? So I have a couple of clips left

2:40:15 But I want to play this one. This is the one that kind of wanted to play, but...I want to play this again. I did- I've been following John Kennedy because his grilling of people He's a grouse of epic proportions! He is really good but this way have a couple different ones. I'm gonna just play this one because it the other was a little too long There's this guy Dale Ho, who wants to be a judge and the guy is left-wing nutball. And so everyone is going after him and giving him grief but Kennedy...

2:40:53 wanted to take out of this. I could have divvied it up, but the whole thing is shortened because they cut off the beginning of it where they do a couple back and forths. This is a little long but at the same time its genius in set ups and you have to imagine Senator John Kennedy being your dad He sets you up, he leaves information out so you can say something stupid and then he grills you about what you just said and makes you clarify. And it's just genius the way he does this. What was the context again of this question? You guys are going to be appointed as one of the district judges. Got it got it got it

2:41:40 It's the judicial committee. So it's gonna be figuring out if this guy can follow the law, is the real requirement? Yeah, and he's not an asshole. And all the rest of it I got another one some what he did the same thing with a woman who wouldn't answer one single question But that would that was more tedious This is more interesting because he he he there's a bunch of things He could do for example like he brings out some tweets The guy did and he could read the tweets but no no No, he'd rather set the guy up for other exposures. This is a work of art to listen to this guy. Well, strike that did you say quote Republicanism is an anti-democratic virus? No Senator I don't believe I've used those words okay You're under oath now Yes senator right I don't believe I've used those words but I do remember saying last year that there was loss of confidence in our elections that has spread

2:42:42 kind of like a virus. Right, well that's a long way from calling the Republican Party an anti-democratic virus Yes it's very different and I don't believe i used those words Senator If you did use those words will you pull down your nomination? Senator I don't believe I've used those words But if you did will you withdraw It is hard for me to imagine a scenario in which I'm just saying, if you said it will you withdraw? If i were quoting someone else saying to describe that kind of sentence. I wouldn't be expressing my own views but Senator I don't believe I've ever used those words I represented...

2:43:28 When you sent out those personal tweets about Senator Cotton, Senator Blackburn and Senator Cornyn did you mean them at the time? Without hearing those tweets it's hard for me to remember precisely what was said or what I was thinking. the tone that I've taken on social media from time to time. I know that I crossed the line from time to time and I... When you crossed the line, did you mean it? Without knowing the specific context or the specific tweet that you're referring to Senator Kennedy its kind of hard for me to say How about that one! But do you generally tweet things you don't mean? Um, Senator Kennedy, I would agree with you

2:44:12 Twitter has become a very coarse place. I don't want to debate Twitter, do you generally tweet things that you don't mean? Well, Senator Kennedy I've contributed to the coarseness on Twitter sometimes by pushing the envelope to break through. Right but when you did it did you mean it? It's hard for me to respond to that kind of generally Senator Kennedy without a specific example You're smart man sure you can either meant or didn't you got two choices door A door B well senator Kennedy I know that I pushed the envelope okay and... Do you regret it? I do regret it. Do you regret because you didn't mean it

2:44:51 Or do you regret it because it might cause you not to be confirmed? Senator Kennedy, I regret this because I think its contributed to the coarseness of our discourse overall and I think it would be better. When did you have this epiphany that everybody has equal dignity and worth when you were nominated or including Republicans? Well, I believe your referring to my religious faith No Im not I'm referring to your courtness, coarseness. Well the equal dignity and worth is a principle of my religious faith Senator It's also a principle of morals and good judgment. I-I'm over Mr. Hoe you're smart man i can tell but i think you're an angry man And... I really have great concerns about voting for you

2:45:43 We don't need federal judges who are angry. We need federal judges who are fair and can see both points of view." I would call that a butt slam of epic proportion? Holy crap, yeah you know what usually he's more annoying but this... He had so the upper hand from the moment because he knew the guy lied. You know the guy twatted that It was a work of art, the way he... and he never had to read the tweets. All he had to do is get the guy to say one thing or another but then you were your insincere? Do you do it are your tweets in sincere? You're lying! It just it was just beautiful but then again when it was over I thought can you imagine this guy being your dad?! I mean he's brutal! Well I didn't have a great relationship with my dad so you've triggered me now and if it's not good thank you

CHAPTER 47 / 48 Discussion

Elizabeth Holmes Trial, Intent to Defraud Defense

The trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes nears its conclusion as the jury begins deliberations. Her defense argues she had no intent to defraud because she never sold her shares, while the prosecution maintains she deliberately misled investors and patients to ensure the company's success.

elizabeth holmes· theranos· silicon valley· fraud· venture capital

2:46:43 I don't know if there's anything else that we need to hit today because it will be an interesting week. We got a lot of stuff coming up. Let me see, do you have anything left? Why don't you have the Elizabeth Holmes update if you want... Oh yes! Please! Yes where are we at with that as everyone resting? It's getting there Okay.

2:47:29 It will then be up to a jury of eight men and four women from in and around Silicon Valley to decide whether the toast of Silicon Valley was, in fact, a fraud. The case and the fate of Elizabeth Holmes will be in their hands shortly. It could be as soon as this evening but not before they heard from her defense attorney Kevin Downey who for three hours today hammered on the theme that Holmes had no intent to defraud—that's an essential element of the crime On the contrary, he said she believed she was building a technology that would change the world so much so that she never sold a single share of stock till the bitter end. The investors who plunged nearly $1 billion into this startup knew the risks they were taking down, he said... Hold on I need to stop! She never stole or sold a single bit of stock until the bitter end? This is not a public company

2:48:19 When you're a startup with venture capital, you don't go selling your shares. It's called like complete confidence problem? I mean that's just exactly... And this is CNBC by the way Yeah and in big company like Facebook or pre-IPO there is secondary market but that not what this was so you are an idiot guy Technology that would change the world So much so she never sold single share of stock to Was that her defense I never even sold any stock, man. That's how much i believe in the company." That is how much i believe in the company. The investors who plunged nearly a billion dollars into the startup knew the risks they were taking down he said and the evidence of botched Theranos testing he said that was all anecdotal but in rebuttal assistant US attorney John Bostick said Holmes deliberately painted a false picture of the company to investors and patients because she was desperate for Theranos to succeed

2:49:12 willing to do anything. The disease that plagued Theranos wasn't a lack of effort, it was a lack of honesty Bostic argued that started at the top the top being Elizabeth Holmes. So Judge Edward Davila, as I said is instructing the jury he is probably about two-thirds of the way through that and what we don't know yet is whether he will have the jury start deliberating tonight it's going on 5 p.m. Pacific time here so we'll see whether they get a tonight or they start up on Monday they have a lot to go through and Shep One of the things that we were looking for in these instructions was how the judge would instruct him on that issue of intent. The government clearly wanted a more broad view of what constitutes and in many ways, not always but in many ways, the judge did side with the government in that very crucial instruction. It's my opinion in United States if you have the money you can really work to adjust this system

2:50:13 That's why I think Jelaine is not going to be a problem at all. She got money, she got all kinds of money flowing around that woman This one... What do you think? Actual jail time because she did humiliate some pretty big players in the Valley I think she's gonna get some jail time, but it's not... She could...she's eligible for like 20. And i think she's probably going to get a five years is my guess Five years and probably get it cut down to three and should probably be out in two Yeah! And then In the year-and-a-half we'll have pictures of her in orange jumpsuit picking up trash

CHAPTER 48 / 48 Discussion

New York Omicron Mix, Show Sign-Off

The show concludes with a media mix featuring Dr. Scott Gottlieb and reports on the Omicron surge in New York City. The hosts sign off with their traditional "Adios Amigos" and remind listeners to return for the next episode on Thursday.

omicron· new york city· scott gottlieb· pfizer· holiday surge

2:50:51 Along the road. I'd like to see more of that, by the way this state this whole area is grimy with trash Oh yeah well now COVID-COVID can't do it COVID Alright everybody That's your deconstruction We deconstructed a lot today so I feel we brought the donuts Coming up next on NoahJennerStream.com You're gonna hang out in the troll room Bowls With Buds special guest Mo Faxx on the show That should be fun and end of show mixes from Sound Guy Steve and Tom Starkweather that is the one you want to hang around for it will give you a complete idea. It's a gem! Of what's happening in New York City with the Omicron, it's scary so scary looking forward to seeing y'all on Thursday as we get ready for Christmas

2:51:45 Looking for some end of show mixes from Christmas time. This week is ahead! Yes, right that's right Coming to you from the heart of Hill Country Texas here in FEMA Region number six In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry Dan from Northern Silicon Valley where uh well it looks pretty crowded to me i don't see a pandemic out there but i guess there is one I'm John C DeVore We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda Remember us at Dvorak.org slash N-A and until then, adios Amalfos! And such... Joining us right now to talk more about what to expect from today's meeting is Dr Scott Gottlieb. Dr Coffey joins me now. Joining us right now is Dr Scott Gottlieb. Joining us right now is Dr Scott Gottlieb. Scott Gottlieb former FDA commissioner We go now to Dr Scott Gottlieb. Huzzah There's evidence that there was a decline in immunity over time

2:52:38 I got nothing to lose, much to gain in my brain. I got a capitalist migraine The first two doses were provided so close together that they probably really served as two crimes There's a lot of vaccines on the market that require three or four doses before you really get immune memory So it's not unheard-of to require multiple doses of a vaccine Well look, I think we absolutely need to care People are going to be hurt there is going to be death and disease as a result of this wave of infection I'd rather be a New Jack Hustler. I think the North and the Northeast are still going to have a wave of infection from Delta, but the reality is vaccine-induced immunity can be redosed. The announcement today about their priority review was sort of just for formality. The vaccines protect them even if they're still susceptible to a breakthrough infection. I do think that having a vaccine available for young kids is gonna help restore confidence and return us to a sense of normalcy

2:53:33 Generally we're seeing the breakthroughs among people who are older and who are back paid a longer interval of go. Delta creates such high viral loads early in the course of the illness that if you have declining levels of circulating antibodies, it can overwhelm your initial defenses. Those cells will prevent you from developing severe disease or being hospitalized. We have seen bad outcomes in kids we've only seen about 50% of eligible children ages 12 and above actually get the vaccine some states and local districts are going to make the decision to mandate vaccination right now. Probs be pretty efficient then consider getting your child vaccinated I have young kids

2:54:17 They'll be eligible for the vaccine when it's authorized, ages 5 to 11. I certainly plan to vaccinate them." Dr Scott Gottlieb who is a former FDA commissioner and current Pfizer board member. You're listening to the No Agenda Morning Zoom on Getmo Radio. You are correct, sir. A word on the street is Santa Claus himself will be showing up he's already vaccinated that has already been taken care of and all his reindeer are as well you can't actually see COVID spreading but if you look around you the long lines at testing sites will tell you everything you need to know numbers of sick are rising

2:55:02 Lines for COVID testing stretch down the block. As the number of COVID cases continues to climb, this rapid rise of infection is concerning with holiday gatherings and travel just days away now. We see what's going on in New York City when we're getting beyond double digits of Omicron being the primary variant there in that percentage. The holidays are feeling a lot less merry in New York City due in part to the coronavirus pandemic. More than 21,000 new cases reported statewide. The previous record January 14th but if you take at the hospitalizations today versus then they're less than half so that is good to look at. New Yorkers have been rattled by the highly contagious Omicron variant it is upon us health officials say the surge in cases in New York City is being driven partly by the highly contagious Omicron variant officials say the new Omicron variant is spreading fastest

2:55:49 here in New York and in New Jersey. Restaurants are contending with breakthrough COVID cases and a highly contagious new strain, the challenges keep coming for restaurants. It is usually the season for shopping at holiday parties, usually big business for stores and restaurants but not this year again Not much room for celebration either at crowded testing sites Some New Yorkers checking out several lines for the best wait I've been here about an hour to an hour-and-a-half And it's been very long. Everyone has just been waiting and waiting, and it's been really scary with the new variant. Very, very scary. We were at NRC, excited around 1040 they cancelled so I was so upsetting. Earlier today the Radio City Rockettes said they were scrapping several performances of popular Christmas spectacular in New York City because of breakthrough infections. And New York is one of those highly vaccinated places

2:56:40 in the entire country. We are one of the most highly vaccinated places in United States of America. Public advocate Jumaane Williams, who now has breakthrough COVID despite being vaccinated and boosted. Thank God it's a pretty mild. Vaccines work against Omicron especially for people who get booster shots when they are eligible New York Governor Kathy Hochul says that she wants the definition of fully vaccinated against COVID to include the booster shot based on whether it was Pfizer or Moderna or J&J This is the information I have to be thoughtful about. But maybe the technology itself, what can be blue if you're eligible and red if you're not? Technology's an amazing thing! It can do wonders nowadays. We're doing everything we can to build what may for a little while be a new normal. Stay in your places of work and go to worship and schools but do it with a mask on and preferably with a booster shot

2:57:36 I think it really destroyed my brain.