Episode 140 · Sunday, 18 October 2009

Pro-Rape Republicans

A legislative battle over corporate rape shields highlights a week of regulatory capture at the SEC and the rising cost of the Afghanistan war.

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About this episode

Thirty Republican senators voted against an amendment by Senator Al Franken that prevents federal contractors from forcing sexual assault victims into private arbitration. The legislative move follows the case of Jamie Lee Jones, a KBR employee who was allegedly drugged, gang-raped by colleagues in Iraq, and subsequently locked in a shipping container. The hosts analyze the corporate legal shields that strip employees of their right to seek redress in court for violent crimes.

Goldman Sachs executive Adam Storch has been appointed as the first Chief Operating Officer of the SEC Enforcement Division, a move critics compare to hiring a burglar for security. Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner continues to staff his department with unconfirmed advisors from Citigroup and Goldman Sachs, including Gene Sperling and Lee Sachs. In Europe, Tony Blair positions himself for the permanent EU presidency as the Lisbon Treaty nears ratification, sparking claims from evangelist Jimmy DeYoung that Blair represents a biblical prophecy of a revived Roman Empire. Domestically, the FDA approved Merck’s Gardasil vaccine for boys, while the Pentagon reported that transporting fuel to Afghanistan has reached a staggering cost of $400 per gallon.

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak deconstruct the BBC’s decision to sanitize the Humpty Dumpty nursery rhyme for the CBeebies channel to ensure a happy ending. The duo also knighted Cary Lutz following a thousand-dollar donation to the No Agenda Quango. Between critiques of Bill Maher’s HBO season finale and the TSA’s new laptop bag policies, the hosts maintain their listener-supported model to avoid the corporate influence of the pharmaceutical and financial sectors.


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CHAPTER 01 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda Episode 140 Introduction, Monday-Wednesday-Friday Schedule Proposal

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 140 of the No Agenda show on October 18, 2009. They discuss a potential move to a three-day-a-week broadcasting schedule on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. Dvorak notes that for many listeners, the show serves as a form of "church" or a regular ritual.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· gitmo nation· podcast schedule· news geek

00:01 Zandam! Okay, Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's October 18 2009 time for your getmo nation media assassination episode 140 This is no agenda preparing for the final pages of the prophecy and Coming to you from the minimum security containment cell in Gitmo Nation West San Francisco California in the morning I'm Adam curry and from cloudy Bay Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak Whoa sorry sounds like a blew up yeah over modulated a bit little too much excitement so just before the show show and I don't even think we were streaming I said to John I said hey man if we moved two three days a week Should we do Monday Wednesday and Friday? To kind of split it up And you said something really

01:03 Really profound John. It wasn't profound for a lot of people this show is church Put your hand on your iPod and feel the truth Yeah, pretty much that's interesting and we just got I We just got a great review, although I haven't read it entirely so it could be a shitty review and I just think its a good review. Well before you give us that little piece of info I want to announce our today's executive producer Yes? This is kind of weird

CHAPTER 02 / 33 Discussion

Executive Producer Shane Brady, Vegan-in-Residence Donation

Shane Brady is named the executive producer for the episode after donating $101.50, narrowly beating out another donor. The hosts designate Brady as their first "vegan-in-residence" based in Plattsburgh, Missouri. They discuss the competitive nature of the executive producer title and the specific donation amounts required to secure it.

shane brady· executive producer· donation· vegan· plattsburgh missouri

01:43 He just got in under the wire by like 49 cents. Really? Yeah, Shane Brady who I have to say is our first... You're sitting down right? Uh yeah. He's our first vegan executive producer. Ah wait a minute! Is this our vegan-in-residence? Well, I don't know if he's in residence or not but he's somewhere living somewhere That sounds good. You know in Silicon Valley we have entrepreneur in residence And I think it's cool to have a vegan and residents and Plattsburgh Missouri. Oh Shane right? Yeah Shane how much did he donate to become this show's executive producer 101 dollars and 50 cents. Ah see there's the trick right so He knew that there was gonna be someone with 100 bucks somewhere So if he came in at a little bit more

02:34 then some and then some change he'll become the executive producer I think yeah you barely made it though cuz another guy Jerry Brace came in with a hundred and one dollars and one cent let me see um let me just check real quick so i think this is Shane who was sees he loves us yeah no yeah yeah he does not nudge let me just see if he posted I think he posted a comment somewhere let me say I don't know. We actually did pretty well for the last few days and i have to say that we could have named our new knight, the executive producer but he's a knight so he doesn't need that kind of uh... And were going to do him at the end right? As it were. Yeah so this um...we were reviewed in News Geek is that something that a lot of people read or...? I dunno probably some people do

CHAPTER 03 / 33 Discussion

News Geek Review, No Agenda Mission Statement

A review of the show in News Geek describes the hosts as cynical and elitist gentlemen who despise the media, government, and large corporations. The review highlights their "agnostic moral code" and sense of duty in spreading news as they see it. The hosts reflect on this characterization and the idea of the show functioning as an organized religion for its audience.

news geek· media criticism· cynical· elitist· agnostic moral code

03:31 I thought it was pretty interesting just skimming through it and a link to the review if you're interested will be in the show notes at noagendashow.com where, about the third paragraph down describing this company basically they that's you and I John despise the media! The US government all other governments most scientists every fortune 500 company having to do with agriculture or chemistry and nearly 99% of the earth population And that 1% left over is a lot of people. That's a lot of people These are two of the most cynical and elitist people alive But underneath it all they are well-bred and well informed gentlemen, a little vulgarity aside Who meanwhile spread the news as they see it out of a nebulous but real sense of duty? And have an agnostic moral code somewhere you know this is something for my tombstone

04:29 But you have an agnostic moral code? Somewhere beneath their intellectual disdain for anything pertaining to organized religion. Which of course is the funny thing because this is, our show is, organized religion To some yes So we might as well get to some stories Well, I wanted to do one that just blew me away. In fact one of our producers who sent me the story almost said in his email this has got to be a joke! This can't be a real news story! It is yet another new person in the administration The first COO of SEC Enforcement

CHAPTER 04 / 33 Discussion

Adam Storch Named SEC COO, Goldman Sachs Influence

The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) appointed Goldman Sachs executive Adam Storch as the first Chief Operating Officer of its enforcement division. This move follows the agency's failure to detect Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme. Critics compare the appointment to putting a "burglar in charge of security," noting the deep ties between Wall Street firms and regulatory bodies.

adam storch· sec· goldman sachs· bernard madoff· robert kusami

05:19 And as you know, John, the SEC ever since the Madoff scandal and then the SEC totally missing this Ponzi scheme. The biggest in history? Yeah there's been a huge... well it's not quite as big as Social Security but okay it's the biggest in history that has been called one so the SEC has had to overhaul everything and they need to bring in some people who can really get the job done so i think that the family and see this kind of a here comes everybody associated press reports uh... goldman sachs executive has been named the first chief operating officer of the securities and exchange commission's enforcement division as like putting the hamburger in it but i am burglar in charge of mcdonald security at adam stork vice-president probably the best uh... yeah analogy probably very accurate

06:18 Adam Storch, Vice President at Goldman Sachs Business Intelligence Group. Which I think is... isn't that like a... forget it, that's scary Yeah, it's what it is guys in one of those one of those fixers One of those guys behind the scenes like in the you know that the Adam was a Clayton movie that who's Michael Clayton? That kind of person or the guys who were in the background of that Trading places movie with Eddie Murphy that we're doing these did the dirty deal right deep throat kinda guy. Yeah I love the acronym big

06:55 B.I.G., so he will become the managing executive of the SEC's Division Of Enforcement. The move came as the SEC has been revamping its enforcement efforts following the agency's failure to uncover Bernard Madoff's massive fraud scheme for nearly two decades, or as they say in Gitmo Nation East, decades despite numerous red flags He'll report to enforcement director Robert Kusami, who I didn't even know...I wonder who that guy is? He's probably... I've heard of him. Let me see if there is a quote from someone, that usually pretty funny if they talk about how he just perfect for the job here it is Storch has strong background in technology systems and project management Kuzami said in his statement Quote you'll help to make us more efficient and nimble and permit us to put more of our investigators on the front lines to detect and stop fraud

07:53 Yeah, why don't you start with that Goldman Sachs high volume trading program. Why don't you start there and take that out of commission and then we'll really believe you're going to do something? Yeah there ya go flash trading make it illegal It's no real... this is just a obvious scam By the way I've always been annoyed by The news business has required over the years this kind of balanced You know, kind of reporting. So they always throw these gratuitous quotes in there you get a quote from the end just here that is from the press release John put him in they put them in because they know otherwise, you know They won't get run They had their so the press releases are written by these same people These editor types that have to put the quote and so they put his bogus quotes and it affected anybody runs them It should be you know Like I said should be at two paragraph thing in a picture of the guy Yeah

08:49 Kusami most recently served as general counsel for the Americas at Deutsche Bank. IEG of course! Alright, don't get me started... Yeah well a lot of the media runs on press releases Well nowadays it's almost like that's all they do yeah because it's easy its spoon-fed no one has to do any investigative work you can have an intern copy and paste it right into the teleprompter and your done They even give you little EPK electronic press kit so you get to get all your all your either sound bites or video clips and yeah and you've got news. Yeah that's just pretty much the way it is, and you know the public doesn't care no we don't I watched last night well two things at first we went to the movies when to see where The Wild Things Are

CHAPTER 05 / 33 Discussion

Saturday Night Movie Theater Etiquette, Where the Wild Things Are

A personal anecdote describes a frustrating experience at a Saturday night screening of "Where the Wild Things Are." The account details disruptive behavior from other patrons, including snoring, loud talking, and a parent allowing a child to run through the aisles. The experience leads to a recommendation to avoid movie theaters on weekend nights.

movie theater· where the wild things are· etiquette· saturday night· cinema

09:51 uh... nor with the wild things live what is a column very cute movie cute mug a chick flick you your bill no no no i don't know if there was not a chick flick it's actually ppg uh... movie it's actually for kids it's it isn't very cute story but man saturday night at the movies haven't been to a movie on saturday night in a long time and this is not a good idea This is people laughing and snoring and making noise. And someone had their kid there at 1030, you know? And the kids like running up and down the aisles... ...and she's trying to keep her quiet by rattling keys What the hell was that all about?! She's like a monkey! Really!? Take your hairy monkey kid and get the freak out of the theater lady Man oh man oh man I'm not gonna do that again

CHAPTER 06 / 33 Discussion

PG Tips Tea Bags, American Market Packaging

A discussion regarding PG Tips tea bags reveals that the brand has created specific packaging for the American market that includes strings and tags. The packaging instructions suggest a "delicious brew fit for a monkey," which the hosts interpret as a joke or a slight against American consumers. The segment mentions seeing these bags at Leo Laporte's studio.

pg tips· tea bags· american market· pyramid bag· leo laporte

10:44 No, don't. Skip movie theaters on Saturday nights is not fun By the way just to bring up a point I'm going to say this has nothing to do with anything we're gonna talk about Nothing with anything But I was at Leo's doing the Twitch show some weeks ago and he got a huge box of PG tips He doesn't know where they came from, somebody bought them somewhere. But they're PG tips in individually wrapped packages... Yeah? And they're tea bags! Nooo! That can't be! Yeah! No no that's against the law!! And so, it's... I'll bring you one. So it's a tea bag and it says that but on the back It's weird! I swear to God I'm gonna read exactly what it says. So has an actual string attached just to this look through the triangle pouch? With a tag with a tag. It's made for the American market That's what it is. Yeah we were idiots apparently can't deal with the pyramid bag How do I get out?! Don't make me use a spoon

11:43 Okay, here in the back it says the following. And I'm just wondering if they wrote this as a joke or they wrote it because nobody's ever going to read it? To prepare the best cup of PG Tips brewing methods may vary but we suggest one use one bag per 200 milliliters of freshly boiled water which indicates this isn't for the American market because again milliliters 2. Allow your customer to brew to their preferred strengths 1-2 minutes as a guide then remove the tea bag 3. Always use fresh milk where possible, and there you have it. A delicious brew fit for a monkey." No! It doesn't say that... I swear to God it says that! A brew fit for a monkey? That's what is says! I'll bring the bag and you're gonna-

CHAPTER 08 / 33 Discussion

Bill Maher's Vaccine Stance, Real Time Season Finale

Bill Maher's performance on the season finale of his HBO show is criticized for being "stuck" and disconnected from his audience. Maher's vocal opposition to the swine flu vaccine and his comments on special needs individuals are highlighted as points of contention. There is speculation regarding whether Maher will return for another season given his apparent lack of enthusiasm.

bill maher· hbo· swine flu· vaccines· obama

14:10 uh... i'm holding back and all the swine flu stuff because just so much of it and is actually new and interesting or this interesting twist in things taking place but I was watching bill maher last night on the repeat, which was his last show of the season. Yeah, I don't know why they cut to show off when they do and doesn't make a lot of sense. Well, Mickey said something interesting she says he doesn't think he's coming back I had to think about it for a second, but i think i concur and he and i don't know if you saw the show But he was so bad. It was he was so stuck And he's any and i think what happened is oh He was he was right? He was a real everybody at that the show was taken over by the uh by the guests well His he almost had a problem that i've i've had in the past he was so stuck on

15:00 Obama not getting out of Afghanistan and Iraq, and being vehemently against swine flu. I don't think his audience is connecting anymore with him Well, the swine flu thing is interesting because he has a lot of interesting bigotry built into his style. And his thing about the vaccines is... I mean, my doctor when we talked about this on our previous show said that he thinks the public is over-vaccinated and which has its bad elements.

15:41 He says he never advised people not to get vaccinated and then he says polio is a good example. That's something you don't want floating around. But this is the thing that they use over and over again, anyone who I talk about not getting a swine flu vaccine if they're really vehement about it its like what do we have polio? You dont think that vaccine technology has improved in 30 years! Yeah, that's fine and Danny but the point I'm trying to make is there probably are a few things you should be nice to be vaccinated against. But Mara, I don't believe even thinks she should be vaccinated for polio or smallpox or anything! Is that the way he came across? That's what we came across to me Maybe a little bit...but regardless What i'm feeling is he's not connecting with his audience mainly with this audience there who sitting there

16:39 who just want to be everything, yay Obama and boo Republicans. And Roy Marr he loves to...he's very bigoted about special needs people everyone he doesn't like is a special needs person basically an invalid or retarded that's pretty bigoted as well you know? You can talk about race all you want but let's ease off on the slamming special needs kids okay I don't know. He may be... You know, I don't see them dropping the show because they... No no! I don't think it's a question of dropping the show. I think he may not want to come back. That's what i think Well, he was uh... little bit sedate and uh... the guests were funnier than he was

CHAPTER 09 / 33 Discussion

FDA Approves Gardasil for Boys, Merck Financial Interests

The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the Gardasil vaccine for use in boys and young men to prevent genital warts. The hosts argue this is a financial move by Merck to double their market share for the HPV vaccine. They frame the approval as part of a broader trend of the pharmaceutical and financial industries exerting control over the U.S. healthcare system.

fda· gardasil· hpv vaccine· merck· genital warts

17:29 Yeah, a little discombobulated. And yeah the show was a little... It wasn't a good finishing show that's for sure No it was not Let's just stay on the vaccines for a second We'll then play the swine flu minute No it's not the swine flu You saw this The Food and Drug Administration has finally done it Has approved Gardasil to prevent Well of course Gardasil is the HPV vaccine, the human papillomavirus so that young girls do not get cervical cancer and guess what? It turns out if you give boys this shot they also don't get cervical cancer. It's amazing! It's an amazing discovery! It is astonishing! No, so this stuff now apparently prevents genital warts in men and boys

18:20 Yeah, so go get a vaccine against genital warts because people are dropping like flies. They're dying in droves from genital warts! Oh it's a plague! How about wrapping that sucker? Parents why don't you teach your kids 9 through 26 I might add what kid at nine gets genital warts show me that kid Actually, George. He can replace me on the show! Oh my god... Yes, so the FDA has now approved this. If this does not prove... Merck trying to double their money on this stuff! If this is not proved that it's only about money and its so clear The financial industry has hijacked the United States The war industry has hijacked the United States And of course that what the entire health care bill is all about They're really going for the jugular they are gonna take over everything

CHAPTER 10 / 33 Discussion

Tony Blair, President of Europe Ambitions

Tony Blair is positioned to become the first permanent President of the European Council once the Lisbon Treaty is ratified. The discussion notes Blair's conversion to Catholicism and his re-emergence on the political stage after leaving the UK premiership in disgrace. The Czech Republic remains the final state needed to sign the treaty.

tony blair· lisbon treaty· european union· czech republic· catholicism

19:17 And we don't give a shit. We're just taking it all kaboom Well, you know like you said he pointed this out the big of his dog show many many shows ago that they That the UK the public at the in the UK have been the testing ground for government abuse Yeah Oh and they love it Just to see how much they could put up with and is like I'm sure that if I if you're in the government or your Tony Blair You must be shaking your head saying Wow These guys will put up with anything. Well I'm glad you bring that up because there's been a lot of talk about Tony Blair, we know now he is poised to become the President of Europe once the Lisbon Treaty has been ratified one little state left, the Czech Republic and I think... Is it the Prime Minister or the President?

20:11 of the Czech Republic. I think he's like waiting for his black bag to show up or something, he'll sign it obviously but you know it's so weird to have Tony Blair all of a sudden kind of pop-up onto the scene after and didn't leave in disgrace? Wasn't kicked out effectively by Gordon Brown? It wasn't like your no good, you've screwed everything up then he leaves, converts to Catholicism And now the plan unfolds according to... What does he convert to Catholicism at his age? By the way, the Anglican Church and the Catholic Church are pretty much the same. It's the same style of church it's the same belief structure there's the differences over time are negligible No well it's very important John you must know that of course after he converted to Catholicism

21:05 in some secret you know ceremony do we have that do we know that for sure well we had their reports on I have to look him up but we did talk about this i'll have to look it up with this was a when he convert like more than a year ago so I have to figure out what The theory is that this is all part of the prophecy, the Bible prophecy which is the Roman Empire and how... What? Is this guy reading too much Dan Brown? Listen! So you've got to hear Jimmy DeYoung who was an evangelist. And a link to his whole story

CHAPTER 11 / 33 Discussion

Bible Prophecy, Tony Blair as the Antichrist

Evangelist Jimmy DeYoung links Tony Blair's role in Middle East peace negotiations to Bible prophecies in the Book of Daniel regarding a revived Roman Empire. Some interpretations suggest the permanent EU presidency could be the seat of the Antichrist. The hosts discuss the cadence of evangelical preaching and the various modern translations of the Bible.

jimmy deyoung· bible prophecy· antichrist· book of daniel· roman empire

21:45 And he has a great website which is prophecy today examining current events in the light of God's prophetic word. Listen to a little bit from Jimmy's show Now with Tony Blair's comments that there could be a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians within the year, The peace process seems to be moving towards a deal This scenario is really a page out of Bible prophecy. The ancient Jewish prophet Daniel wrote of the revival of the old Roman Empire, which would be led by a world leader powerful enough to put this peace deal together

22:26 The prophecy of the revived Roman Empire, Daniel 7 verses 7 and 24 could well be fulfilled in the near future. The infrastructure actually is in place that's the European Union The world leader that comes from that political powerhouse, Daniel 7 verses 8 and 24 could be the permanent president that is called for in the European Union's Lisbon Treaty. Daniel 9 27 does reveal this world leader will bring peace to the Middle East. We're saved!

23:08 You know this stilted style of preaching which this guy obviously employs and probably one of the best at this is Robert Tilton. It seems to be, and also there's other people that employ it... I think there's something in his mind control aspect too because he has a pace that the brain is like you're not speaking sentences, he's speaking words It sounds like almost like my Mac is translating something from a text document. Tony Blair will be the president of the world! Well, the premise is Daniel 927 which reveals that the world leader know my 27 different names but best known as The Antichrist

23:59 and he will indeed establish peace between Israel and her Arab Muslim neighbors with a peace agreement. I think if anybody's the Antichrist, I think Blair could be it's not bad. But there are lot of people who read the Bible you know i've heard its sold just a little bit more than Atlas shrugged last year and it is quite possible that people believe this can we get his show in? Yeah! You know I'd slip it in That guy was pretty good though I like listening to him. This guy, this preacher? Yeah! He's interesting. What is his name again? Jimmy DeYoung. I like the long-legged Obama guy better.

24:41 he's more likely to black preachers have got they have a cadence too which should be which is only our well sometimes tries to get into that cadence it's more with rhythmic yes the these gathered types these robert tilton types at beds and thereby the way those guys typically will speak in tongues and uh... another five biblical reference yeah well that you know the biblical reference to times is quite interesting i was actually right about this one time and he's one of my many projects that i just said it's too much work but as you start looking at the different translations of the bible they they actually have the bible actually has translated a lot in india stranded off often times gets translated in a way that reflects trends within the society

25:28 Yeah, current trends. Of course! As people get smarter the Bible gets smarter as people get dumber the Bible gets dumber and they have a whole slew of translations that just came out recently that you can't actually access online because they're all copyrighted and there are a whole bunch of them that are essentially designed with the evangelicals in mind it is written specifically for them any and if you read that interpretation at the Bible compared to just about anything written before its like they have rewritten the Bible Right. And Daniel 927 would be interesting, I'll look at the different translations of that and just... Yeah please get back to me on that will you? Have a read of that Bible and get back to me! I'm happy to bring this one up again particularly since you scoffed at me when i first started talking about Very Chip and the RFID capabilities and then this commercial shows up

CHAPTER 13 / 33 Discussion

Al Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment, Republican Opposition

Senator Al Franken introduced an amendment to a defense bill that prohibits federal contractors from forcing employees to resolve sexual assault claims through private arbitration. The amendment was inspired by Jamie Lee Jones, a KBR employee who was gang-raped in Iraq and prevented from suing. Thirty Republican senators voted against the amendment, drawing sharp criticism from the hosts.

al franken· halliburton· kbr· jamie lee jones· us senate

30:53 Well, I want to do the thing you know that this is the most baffling story that's floating around. Jon Stewart played it up on the Comedy Central show and its L Franken who actually looks like he might turn out to be a decent senator because he's very studious and he doesn't joke around, he's not funny anymore apparently. No he is not Which is kind of the drawback but at the same time he knows that can't be so he's dead serious about everything and keeps coming up with stuff So he came up with this simple amendment to a bill that would require any US contractor cease making employees women in particular sign away their rights against suing the company if they're gang raped

31:44 So let me just get this right. So there are US companies who make female employees sign a waiver that if they're gang raped, which of course is so much more pleasurable than singular rape, they then cannot sue the company? Is that what you're saying? That this actually exists today? Yeah, in fact it turns out that Halliburton is one of the biggest proponents of using this little document. But we read a bunch of articles on it and looks like Boeing and all these big international companies that are in the US use this. It's like a dummies contract and these people here you have to sign this because... We're going to Iraq and God knows what these guys are gonna do over there so you better sign this thing because we don't want to get sued

32:28 And so this seemed pretty bogus to him and so he said, This has gotta go. Before I get too much into this complaint of mine...I am still completely baffled by the fact that we have a US Constitution and people are signing contracts and i would say non-disclosure agreement which is commonly signed by the media By the way, I refuse to sign one Commonly signed by the media really takes away your First Amendment rights and many times if you work for a company, you'll sign one of these things as a condition of employment. And you might not be able to talk about anything you did at that company for a period of time which is outlined typically in the non-disclosure agreement... Which is restriction of freedom of speech is what you're saying? ...which is restriction of freedom of speech and you talk to me well you know contracts have this contract contract contract

33:22 And I'm thinking the more I see this now, apparently you're signing away your right to not be raped. and, you can rape me no problem. Sign away." So I'm thinking why doesn't somebody test this in court by having somebody sign away their freedom and become an indentured slave? Sign it away get a document sign it up to make it all legal and saying I am now a slave to so-and-so and reintroduce slavery in the country because that's exactly where this leads but

33:58 I don't know how this can be maintained now. The real complaint here is that so they take a vote on what seems to be like a simple thing... Yeah, it seems pretty logical. It's like no that's not a good idea you shouldn't... Not a good idea we don't want it! So 30 Republicans... Vote against it Vote against it in other words there. You know that the rape Republicans the pro-rape Republicans It's an embarrassment now that I ever beat was a member of the Republican Party with the fact that we have 30 Republicans That are pro-rape Now awesome they all have and by the way, I'm gonna name them they all have

34:37 some bullshit excuse. Oh, well you know if you read between the lines it would oh it's gonna hurt our kids there are all these little kind of now now now although these guys will sign off on anything else but they got reasons for not going along with this one not to mention the fact that they don't want to do any... It is embarrassing that Al Franken discovered it but that's beside the point so they all vote NO being a bunch of pro-rape jerks And the thing is, politically what kind of stupidity this would get gets me more than anything. How dumb does a senator have to be to show up on this list as being for rape? Well you of course make the mistake that this would actually be discussed in mainstream news at all John I mean... Oh it's gonna get discussed because when they have their re-elections... No no! John oh please Balloon Boy! Balloon Boy is more important than this give me a break

35:30 Let me just read the names for you people out there who have these people working for you. Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, Barrasso Wyoming, Bond Missouri Brownback Kansas Bunning Kentucky Burr North Carolina Chambliss Georgia Coburn Oklahoma Cochran Mississippi By the way all you churchgoers in Mississippi? You think are you for rape Corker, Tennessee. Cornyn Texas another rape state Crapo perfect name Idaho demented South Carolina ensign Nevada Enzi, Wyoming. Lindsey Graham South Carolina do-gooder? He's pro rape and you're reelecting him?! Greg New Hampshire Inhofe Oklahoma Issachon Georgia both guys from Georgia by the way good religious state Johans Nebraska Kyle Arizona McCain! The guy who would be president is pro rape! McConnell

36:34 Kentucky Rich Roberts Sessions from Alabama and Shelby from Alabama, both religious states. And they have these guys pro-rape Thune Vitter and Weicker I'm glad you bring this up, John. I think we really need to stay on top of this and i'd like to hear some of these excuses that these rape republicans are using no democrat voted against right only the only 30 republicans? The thirty rape republicans yes there's two not voting sorry No one else that was the total That was it! There were 68-32

CHAPTER 14 / 33 Discussion

Jamie Lee Jones Case, KBR Arbitration Clauses

The story of Jamie Lee Jones is detailed, explaining how her employment contract with KBR stripped her of the right to seek redress in court after being drugged and raped by colleagues in Iraq. After reporting the crime, she was allegedly locked in a shipping container by the company. The segment highlights the broader issue of mandatory arbitration in corporate contracts.

jamie lee jones· kbr· arbitration· sexual assault· iraq

37:13 Shall we listen to it and play a little bit of this bit? Is that the... is it still working? Yeah, play a little bit of the... Senator from Minnesota. Thank you Madam President the amendment I offer today is inspired by the courageous story of a young woman who has dedicated four years of her life to make sure that no other women lives through her nightmare This is the story we did actually discuss months ago John when she blew the whistle Right, that's what started it all off. That's how Al Franken discovered it Four years ago at the age of 19 Ms Jamie Lee Jones signed a contract to become an employee of KBR then a Halliburton subsidiary

37:56 That contract contained a clause which required her to arbitrate any future dispute against her employer. This means it forced her to give up her right to seek redress in court if she was wronged At the time, Ms Jones had no idea what implications this seemingly innocuous fine print clause would have. Okay, so I'm already starting to understand how this is working so it's not specifically if you're raped but it's any dispute with your employer will be arbitraged versus going to court which has been something that's been standard in contracts for a long long long time and its a huge scam because then an arbitrage is done with lawyers essentially and then whoever has the biggest pocketbook will basically win

38:45 Right, but when this case what it's you know what typically you deal with when it comes to arbitration are Employee disputes. It's not about illegal activity or Or you know where your point good point good point and and by the way There's all kinds of shit going on with KBR because these are the same guys who have built defective showers Where many many I'm talking scores as in 12 score? Scores of service men and women, and also contractors have been electrocuted due to faulty wiring. They're out there taking a shower in the desert...

39:26 one of these field shower facilities. It's basically like a big rubber sleeping bag that is hanging up and they have whole bunch of, actually body bags when you think about it is kind of nasty and you get in there zip it up then turn the shower on so that seems like instant cubicle but its very wet and there no bottom to it, it basically goes through wooden rafters probably repurposed, God knows what happens there. But there's wiring all over these camps and these poor boys and girls have been electrocuted to death in the shower due to faulty KBR work and none of this has really come to the forefront as well probably due to the same type of clause in their contract Yeah Well let's listen a little bit more it is pretty interesting Ms Jones arrived in Iraq in July 2005

40:24 Immediately, she complained to supervisors about the hostile conditions imposed by KBR. She was constantly being harassed by her male colleagues and was housed in barracks with 400 men and only a few women. Her pleas for safer housing were ignored. Four days after her arrival Ms Jones was drugged and gang raped she requested medical attention and a doctor administered a rape kit parts of that rape kit have since mysteriously disappeared after Ms. Jones reported the rape to her supervisors, she was locked in a shipping container with an armed guard and prohibited any contact with the outside world this actually makes me sick in my stomach I can't listen to it well put it in the show notes

41:21 Listen to yourself. Yeah, and you can also listen to the senators that you have representing you that seem to be oblivious to this sort of thing and I guess encourage it now i know that there's probably some crazy rationale for voting no You know? I'm sure you could rationalize And I'm sure McCain has a great idea Well... This and That! I like raping chicks It ain't reason enough So anyway, but that's what it amounts to I just found the whole thing disgusting. It is really I'm sitting here listening to Frank and Who by the way? I have my doubts about but doesn't matter it's a Nauseating is what it is nauseating Hey, thanks for bumming me out buzzkill. Yeah, that's what I do good job there you're right on your game today Wasn't our friend Vivek Kundra he didn't he

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Vivek Kundra, Virginia IT Outsourcing Audit

A legislative audit in Virginia revealed that a $2 billion computer upgrade managed by Northrop Grumman has been plagued by disruptions and cost overruns. The hosts link the failure to Vivek Kundra and Anish Chopra, who held technology leadership roles in Virginia before joining the Obama administration. They criticize the practice of large-scale IT outsourcing to firms that fail to deliver.

vivek kundra· anish chopra· virginia· northrop grumman· outsourcing

42:21 run Virginia's technology? Well he had something, him and Chopra those two guys had something to do with it. Yeah wasn't he like the CTO of Virginia before he became a CIO of these United States? I looked at his bio never none of it was accurate anyway who knows what he really did He was a CEO of something October 13th reports the Washington Post, a scathing legislative audit released Tuesday shows Virginia's outsourcing of a massive here comes John two billion dollar computer upgrade that some ram you're getting right there man. Two billion dollars? That is an upgrade! A two billion dollar computer upgrade has been so troubled that core government services have been disrupted

43:08 And the cancelling of the contract could cost the state hundreds of millions more. You know, this has Vivek's fingerprints all over it doesn't it? Well not only that but there is also his pal Anish Chopra who somebody sent me a hold because I'm looking into him Apparently he was like the king of outsourcing stuff to India You know if there's any chance of getting some work for his buddies back in Bombay. He was all over it Yeah, well this this work was done by North North or Grumman which might outsource as well, it wouldn't surprise me. This is so typical and you see this all over the world we saw this happen in the United Kingdom with their computerization of the National Healthcare Service which has cost billions I think it's five billion pounds basically to create an Oracle database of everyone shit and make it accessible with like a an HTTP server? I mean...I'm making it sound simple but please

44:07 And it's just creating classes of insurance codes. It can't be that difficult and you know, that's what computers are good for in and What happens is you get these jabronis who were I think just either on the take or whatever? They certainly don't know really what they're talking about They've never done an implementation themselves had never led any kind of huge scale effort to And they give these big contracts and you know, they're just subcontracted and subcontract contracted again. And let's face it companies like Northrop Grumman, it behooves them to keep on going! To keep the contract running and run into more problems and be able to up the ante. They just keep on going and cost taxpayers billions of dollars. I would say that Kundra and Chopra are two these guys that do that shit by the way their running a country technology right now

45:00 Into the ground. That's my prediction two billion dollars Yeah, well it's like the 18 million dollar website no no 2 billion dollars is a little different Well I know you're saying it's a little bit different It is just different yeah so Yeah, no I'm just... what can i say? I mean I don't understand how these guys get these contracts and of course you know it's like once they get the contract there you made them half pregnant. and so you have to keep going, so it ends up costing twice as much or more. They'll probably end up walking away with five billion. Let's talk about a little bit more cost What do you think John it costs per gallon of gas for our armed services in Afghanistan? I'm not just talking about the actual price that we have to pay Mohammed at the pump there in the province but uh...the security

CHAPTER 16 / 33 Discussion

Afghanistan War Costs, $400 Per Gallon Gasoline

Pentagon officials informed the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee that the fully burdened cost of a gallon of fuel in Afghanistan is approximately $400. This high price is attributed to the extreme logistical challenges and security requirements of transporting fuel to remote locations. The hosts discuss the strategic importance of pipelines in the region.

afghanistan· pentagon· fuel costs· john murtha· logistics

46:02 secure facilities now we come out iraq or afghanistan afghanistan so what do you're asking me what is it costed to per gallon a for the year of the u s but that's all this is all part of the contract always okay wait when your okay and i'm just trying to make it simple okay you're gonna give me a number that is you can take any soldier and they're going tell me how many gallons of gasoline does it take to get him over there no no no no no no no no you did with the wrong way What to put one gallon of gasoline into a vehicle in Afghanistan? A military vehicle, okay And I'll give you the parameters. Okay, so it's transport security for For secure locations yeah That's about it. It's really Transporting security

46:54 So what you're gonna do is tell me what essentially, what the actual number is. What it costs for a soldier to use a gallon of gas in so far as what it takes to get the gas over there? What it takes to store it? In other words, what is the taxpayer paying for this one gallon of gas? Give us the number. $400 No that's bullshit! Well, the hill.com which I like reading The Hill they do some pretty good work John and they've calculated this based upon Pentagon officials who told the House Appropriations Defense Subcommittee that a gallon of fuel cost the military about $400

47:42 It's a number we were not aware of and it is worrisome says John Murtha. You think? They are going to get pipelines running all over Afghanistan, just tap one of them! When I heard that figure from the Defense Department We started looking into it Yeah Is that an idea? Oh man So this is the government's own numbers and some calculation done by some some cracks. Yeah, it's the Pentagon Hmm well they are seems like but yeah what maybe it's maybe they're low-balling and just It could be much more actually 1200 that is so outrageous can we low ball it anymore? No We can't really get it below 400. That's really it four hundred bucks a gallon

48:29 They don't have any oil in Afghanistan, do they? They just got mountains and shit. Well I know but they have pipelines that go through Afghanistan all the UNICEL stuff does Which is well that's part of the reason we're in Afghanistan it's for ocean and for oil pipelines Yeah It's a very important pipeline Yeah That's what they say So That was another interesting thing about the Mars show. They got into the Afghanistan thing and it's interesting to note that you have people like Alec Baldwin, who is a radical Democrat who is essentially pro-war. And that's really interesting because he came on I said oh I like I like Alec Baldwin because he's anti war and I'm like huh?

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Democratic Party War Policy, Vietnam Comparisons

The hosts observe that prominent Democrats and celebrities like Alec Baldwin have adopted pro-war stances regarding Afghanistan and Pakistan. They compare the current escalation of conflict under President Obama to the Democratic Party's involvement in the Vietnam War under Kennedy and Johnson. They argue that both parties are now beholden to wealthy interests and the military-industrial complex.

alec baldwin· democratic party· vietnam war· barack obama· foreign policy

49:13 What happened here? All of a sudden he's like, yeah we should be kicking Al Qaeda's ass. We should go into Pakistan. We should going to Somalia. Wait a minute where is Alec Baldwin and what did you do with my friend? This is what happens when the Democrats get in office! You know the Democratic Party now represents the richest people in America that's not flipped. The Republicans are no longer the rich people it's the Democrats this was in USA Today two weeks ago Yeah, well that they you know then they want to keep it that way so So they wanted so this is typical. I mean there all those guys We got a vote of men and we'll get out of here or get out of there. We're gonna do this We're gonna do that and they get in and they just what happened during the Vietnam era God's no one knows about this You're old enough to know and that's not a slam I mean you are you're old enough to know and does is this not exactly a? right

50:05 Yeah, it's exactly the same. You have one guy you know they first day stick get their toes wet and then the next thing you know you get a I mean, it started with Eisenhower the Republican and he just didn't want to have too much to do with it. And then Kennedy comes in and then he's kind of like starts the ball rolling and then they hire some anti-war stuff beginning and put in Lyndon Johnson who just goes nuts! And sends half a million people over there. Then all this anti war stuff comes up so that Democrats have to kill two of their own And Bobby Kennedy is one of them. So they can't put a peace candidate up and they finally get a weak... Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. Who's that British woman in your house? Anyway so the point is it took Nixon to get us out give me a break! Yeah really

51:06 The problem is we can't just extricate ourselves. Well of course we can, all I have to do is say stop enough done but the reason why it's could know what this is what you know they're talking about oh yeah were there for Al Qaeda were there for the Taliban bullshit! Bullshit! You know the thing that bugs me is that we're always given the Asian countries a bad time because all you can get them to anything and you can say anything you can do because they are they always feel gonna lose face They are going to lose face But we're the worst at this. We, we were... Oh! Let's do it. We're in? We're stuck here? Let's pretend that we are her for some reason and then we'll try to figure some bogus way to get out of this mess. We can't just walk out apparently

CHAPTER 18 / 33 Discussion

TSA Laptop Bag Policy, Traveler Rights

The TSA has updated its policies to allow certain "checkpoint friendly" laptop sleeves to pass through X-ray machines without the computer being removed. Adam Curry plans to carry a printed copy of the TSA website to confront agents who may not be aware of the rule. The hosts discuss the general frustrations of dealing with airport security personnel.

tsa· airport security· laptop bags· travel tips· federal regulations

51:48 Well, of course we could. It's that easy and we could fix health care and everything else along with it. Yeah no, we could just walk out and say look bye! See ya later! And okay raise the shields if you want to stop terrorists from coming in. The Lord knows our TSA is doing a fine job So the TSA stole some woman's baby. I know, you know i actually researched that conversation we had last show about the laptop bag it is true that they do allow although they won't endorse any particular manufacturer but if you have a laptop sleeve

52:29 So one of these, I have the Crunchy bag whatever it is. You are allowed by the TSA to leave that in. Yeah! So what i'm going to do is I am gonna print that page out and have it with me In fact probably put inside this sleeve on a laptop bag so if he goes through and they don't get a clear picture your computer they can... This according to the TSA's own website They can then put it through again as they want or ask you open up but I'm going to put it In the bin, in the sleeve and if someone from the TSA starts bitching at me before it goes to the x-ray machine I'm gonna whip out my website piece of paper. I'm gonna shove it in their face Yeah you do that And then I'm gonna play this jingle and say hey you TSA agent listen up boy Our formula is this We go out we hit people in the mouth And I'll be calling you from Gitmo Yeah well

CHAPTER 19 / 33 Discussion

9/11 Investigation Referendum, WTC 7 Skepticism

The New York State Supreme Court blocked a referendum supported by 80,000 voters that called for a new investigation into the September 11 attacks. The group NYC Ken, composed of victims' relatives and survivors, claims the original commission failed to answer key questions. The hosts specifically mention the collapse of World Trade Center 7 as a point of unresolved suspicion.

9/11· nyc ken· supreme court· wtc 7· referendum

53:31 Make sure you only do this when you're really early for a flight. And, you have time to stand around I'm an American! I just can't help myself...I really really can't So this, that British woman who you heard? This is just something I wanted to play briefly because it's something that obviously was underreported. New Yorkers are trying to get a reopening of the 9-11 investigation into a referendum in New York and i think they had 80 thousand signatures not quite sure what the requirement is but they had eighty thousand signatures and the Supreme Court said nope not going to do it

54:16 Really? Yeah, you want to hear the report briefly? The whole truth about that day. Around 80 thousand campaigners have called for a referendum on a new investigation into the tragedy but America's Supreme Court has ruled it out. RTS Marina Bartnaya reports from New York The demands have been heard, but the call to action silenced. New York State's Supreme Court has refused a referendum on having a new 9-11 investigation. The initiative supported by 80 thousand voters would have appeared on November's mayoral ballot NYC Ken, a coalition of victims' relatives, survivors and rescue workers led the referendum campaign. Why didn't our fighter pilots intercept the planes? Why was my uncle's crime scene tampered with? Why did the military lie to the 9-11 Commission? The group accuses the 9-11 Commission of failing to answer 70% of questions proposed by family members. This is a whole report

55:16 I think 80,000 should be enough. What would you think at least? I don't know what the deal is it may be an unconstitutional in terms of the New York Constitution and unconstitutional request have no idea well it does give me a reason to play this jingle again WTC 7 won't go away It won't. But it did go away! No, it went away in six seconds. It was amazing! It's amazing how that happened. They've never come up with an adequate explanation for WTC7? Of course not. It got dinged apparently... Well the only true explanation was it housed SEC documentation

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Donald Rumsfeld, Missing $2.3 Trillion Pentagon Funds

On September 10, 2001, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon could not account for $2.3 trillion in transactions. The hosts suggest a connection between this missing money and the destruction of World Trade Center 7, which housed records for the SEC and other agencies. They discuss the convenience of the records being destroyed the day after the announcement.

donald rumsfeld· pentagon· missing money· wtc 7· 9/11

56:09 IE all of the scandals going on Wall Street. It housed the CIA documentation, Pentagon information the day before September 10th Donald Rumsfeld on record saying yeah we've misplaced about two trillion dollars were not quite sure where it went well the information was in WTC 7 Oh, damn. Crap! We were gonna look into that two trillion dollars? Yeah... Here's the background it goes like this Okay here comes a second play What is it doing hitting- It supposed to be hitting WTC7?! Oh man! Let me see if I can find that Rumsfeld video It's always fun because people hear us say this stuff and they're like yeah yeah right right Uh here it is Rumsfeld

57:01 It's a YouTube clip. It's actually 2.3 trillion dollars, I think. Oh you cannot be played here what the hell is that? Give me a YouTube clip people! Here we go... it's all happening live play or dead as it were. It's gonna play this is like a video of a video of a video of CBS News Pentagon, the day before 9-1-1. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war not on foreign terrorists. The adversary is closer to home

57:37 It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat In fact, it could be said that it is a matter of life and death Rumsfeld promised change but the next day... The world changed Oh shit! And in the rush to fund the war on terrorism This isn't the quote I was thinking. ...seems to have been forgotten Where's this quote? My O3 budget Ah shit. It's uh... No funny they didn't play it next week Now here it is admits to losing. Oh, it's 3.2 or 2.3 It's worth that I People need to hear this shit all right well go yeah, dude. I'm doing this live with like This is not the world shit screw it alright someone I'll find it maybe if I just scroll ahead Sorry about this. I was unprepared really I was unprepared We'll find it

58:38 I'll find it and put it in the show notes. But he literally says, yeah there was like 2.3 or 3.2 trillion dollars we can't find it and the next day the very place where that information is stored without a plane hitting it actually just disintegrates! It's amazing! The financial services agency from the United Kingdom And the, wait a minute is this the FSA and the FSB? The Financial Stability Board have just come out and saying it now something we've been talking about on this show for quite awhile. The G20 has asked the body to coordinate global efforts introduce new financial rules that will be global

CHAPTER 21 / 33 Discussion

Tim Geithner's Advisors, Goldman Sachs Ties

Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner is criticized for employing top advisors who previously earned millions at firms like Goldman Sachs and Citigroup. These aides, including Gene Sperling and Lee Sachs, do not require Senate confirmation despite their significant influence on financial policy. The hosts argue this creates a conflict of interest where advisors profit from the policies they help create.

tim geithner· treasury department· goldman sachs· gene sperling· lee sachs

59:31 because we need global financial regulation. This is how the central banks are going to come together and own us, more than they already do." They're just coming out and saying it now. They are! And another report about little Timmy Geithner that would be our Secretary of the Treasury...and this is a Bloomberg report some of the Treasury Secretary's closest aides none of whom face Senate confirmation earned millions of dollars a year working for Goldman Sachs, Citigroup and other Wall Street firms. So here's how it works the Secretary of the Treasury has advisors one of them Gene Sperling who last year earned $887,727 from Goldman Sachs. Lee Sachs

1:00:27 Another top advisor reported more than three million dollars in salary and partnership income from Mariner Investment Group. All of these guys, and you should look at all the names here they advise this guy they're in the meetings they know exactly what's going to happen and they place their bets based upon it Sure! What could be better than that? Nothing but it makes me want to cry Yeah I don't know what they're gonna do about this I guess we have to wait till 2012, but then there's no who's gonna be the next president. I'm thinking It could be crazy enough that rush Rush Limbaugh becomes president Why not it's like we've had every other type of actor time for a radio guy to get in there Radio radio put a radio guy in I'm telling you it will be fantastic all right? I think that's about time All right

CHAPTER 22 / 33 Discussion

Swine Flu Indicators, Pigs Testing Positive in Minnesota

The CDC reports widespread H1N1 activity across 41 states, with increasing hospitalizations. For the first time in the U.S., three pigs at the Minnesota State Fair tested positive for the virus, though they did not appear sick. The hosts suggest the "swine flu" label is being used to manipulate the pork industry and question the validity of testing asymptomatic animals.

h1n1· swine flu· cdc· minnesota state fair· pork industry

1:01:26 We just have to do it. There's just no two ways around it because now everything is being shipped I received a CDC news brief which of course is diligently copied by every media outlet certainly in the country, probably around the world. They've got key flu indicators. Visits to doctors for influenza-like illnesses continue to increase in the past week. Total influenza hospitalization rates for laboratory confirmed flu are climbing higher than expected for this time of year. The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza based on the 122 cities report has increased and exceeds what is normally expected this time of year

1:02:10 41 states are reporting widespread influenza activity at this time. Widespread, John! I don't know what that means... What is widespread? It means it's everywhere! There's a map they got a cool map where it's just widespread amongst almost all of the influenza viruses identified so far are 2009 H1N1 and we've been waiting for this one just came in today It's something that we noticed happening in Asia half a year ago. But finally, we have identified the first pigs in the United States who have swine flu. Finally! A pig has the swine flu. It is about time and this may actually... Three pigs? Minnesota State Fair three pigs tested positive in late August for H1N1 The flu virus that is causing the current pandemic

1:03:09 Interesting. How does that work? You know, a farmer says, oh Bessie don't look too good I think I should test her for the swine flu It doesn't make any sense There's something... The virus does not seem to make pigs very sick So how did he why did he test him for for swine flu if the pigs weren't sick it doesn't make any sense This story is bogus Well it's the New York Times so well there you have it It's a plant Yeah, it's a plant obviously but why are they trying to go after the pork business? Well because you know this is before right we saw a bunch of these You know It was actually was either in New York Times or one of these other New York based publishing companies that had that That slideshow and I sent you a copy of it and it was swine flu around the world And it was mostly people with pigs. Yeah

1:04:00 They were showing people and so the public, because they tried to make it associative by calling it the swine flu. It came from a pig farm supposedly or something like that in Mexico for some unknown reason And so they keep using swine flu and everybody, oh no it should be the Mexican flu. And of course the Muslims were upset about we can't even say the word swine it's just against our religion and that got everybody all bent out Oh God what are going to do now? We can't make this association Is somebody putting screws into the pork industry It has to be something like that John You know you pork guys have not been coughing up enough money is this like an extortion scheme

1:04:39 Officials at many state fairs this year are worried that people would infect pigs. What are they doing with their pigs? How do you infect the pig? Come here, Bessie! Hey, Bessie come over here! Infect pigs that reports of infected pigs would create a scare that would harm the pork industry... Okay there it is even though there's no risk of infection from eating cooked meat so its probably intended to do exactly that as just to affect the pork industry And one concern about animals harboring the virus is the possibility that viruses will change as they move back and forth between species, perhaps by mixing with other viruses. What are we doing with our pigs? Look don't go kissing a pig okay! It's that simple stay away maybe this it could be like a Muslim thing John or

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Pork Industry Economics, Market Manipulation Theories

The hosts speculate that financial firms like Goldman Sachs may be using swine flu scares to manipulate the pork commodities market. They discuss how culling herds creates scarcity, driving prices up and allowing investors with "put" contracts or long positions to profit. They also suggest that farmers might receive government subsidies for destroyed livestock.

pork bellies· goldman sachs· commodities· subsidies· scarcity

1:05:33 Maybe it's a Jewish thing. We've got to get rid of pigs, are we going to be culling pigs next? That is what we did with the avian flu, we killed billions of birds around the world... I mean culled Is that what this is about or are we gonna start killing pigs next? I don't know, the whole thing is just sketchy Yeah maybe you're culling pigs that would be great! I betcha its gonna happen Well they..I'm looking at the pork industry woes There has been a bunch of It started in 98 It's apparently that industry has been on a decline. It is possible just the opposite might be going on, which is if they did have pork coal – let us say I am a pork farmer. Hog Industry Woes of 1998 and looking at marketing policy briefing paper

1:06:22 sudden and severe economic storm hit the pork industry in 98 it grew increasingly violent and culminated toward natick outbreak near the end of your phone to use a high-speed your average hog prices anyway collapse okay look at something else look at something else look at the hedges or the put options are whatever it is on port bellies I'll bet you that these cocksuckers at Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan and all these other dudes are all in commodities like oil and gold. I'll bet you they have huge put contracts out on pork bellies as in they make tremendous bank if the price goes down. Okay, well how about this for an idea? Since we don't know how they're going to play the game...

1:07:10 Let's say we somehow create a panic in the industry where they have to kill the pigs. They have to kill all bunch of pigs like they did with the chickens, oh it is just precautionary which will run the price way up not down. Oh right! Of course because we have scarcity yeah supply and demand you're right. So again that when things go out when they can go up exponentially and you can make more money than small collapse Which apparently it's already done. So let's take a buy low sell high scenario Meanwhile, the farmers are all bent out of shape because they're gonna have to kill these their animals will end up getting government subsidies which would be the wink-wink nudge nudge and then they can go right ahead and they can cut deals with And start building fake corn

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Florida Flu Triage Guidelines, Prison Vaccinations

Florida health officials are developing guidelines that could bar patients with terminal illnesses from hospitals if facilities are overwhelmed by flu cases. Meanwhile, the Boston Herald reports that thousands of state inmates will receive H1N1 vaccinations before the general public. The hosts debate the ethics of prioritizing prisoners for medical care during a pandemic.

florida· triage· swine flu vaccine· inmates· boston herald

1:08:02 I love it. Once again, and it's really the industries working together once again because of course the pharmaceutical industry loves it Well there is something phony about this farmer that says he has two or three sick pigs when in the report that there are very little indications Little indications? They're not sick what are you doing testing them for if they don't even get sick from it Yeah, there's something funny going on with this pork deal. So Florida health officials are drawing up guidelines now that recommend barring patients to be able to treat people with swine flu. Guess what? If you have incurable cancer end-stage multiple sclerosis or other conditions of similar nature, you will be barred from being admitted to hospital if the state is overwhelmed by flu cases

1:08:56 Because of course we have to save people. That's scary, but you're just going home because you don't live in Florida I'm just wondering what the whole thing there's something this whole thing is system This is a scam and by the way I want to mention that this was about a year ago When you're the one when the swine flu thing first cropped up when they first mentioned h1n1 You said immediately? Because of the way it was presented right off the bat that it was a scam The reason why is because we were all over the Gardasil thing and it didn't work very well, it didn't work universally in every single country. In the Netherlands I think close to 40% refused to get the HPV virus inoculation

1:09:45 And you know a lot of money goes into this and all of these pharmaceuticals, all their drugs are running out of patents so they need something to perpetuate. Who's paying for it? Who do you think is actually paying for the swine flu vaccine? You and I are through our taxes! Governments worldwide have bought this. They have already prepaid The money is in the pipeline with the pharmaceuticals All they have to do now is just deliver and create more uh... and they can deliver whatever they want because i've already been given a free pass on anything that's flawed Boston Herald, thousands of state inmates will get the coveted... Oh I love this reporting. Coveted? They use the word coveted? The Boston Herald. There you go! There's your neutral writing. Laura Cremaldi and Hillary Chabot write this article, thousands of state inmates will get coveted swine flu vaccinations weeks before law-abiding Bay Staters who foot the bill for prisoners

1:10:48 They will have a shot at protecting themselves. The prison pampering has one lawmaker questioning the convoluted flu preparation." Oh my God, what are they right for? Entertainment Tonight?" It's terrible! That is just bad. Coveted. The sheriff there, Sheriff James V. DiPaola says it's a perfect breeding ground He's requested 21,000 doses to inoculate staff inmates health and prison officials. Actually it is a perfect breeding ground and in fact the decision is probably a good one if there was a problem yeah so uh... In Germany meanwhile I got a lot of respect for the Germans man they've banned voting machines because they don't trust them

CHAPTER 25 / 33 Discussion

German Vaccine Policy, Adjuvants and Elite Tiers

In Germany, reports indicate that Chancellor Angela Merkel, the military, and government medical officials will receive H1N1 vaccines without adjuvants. In contrast, the general population is slated to receive 50 million doses of a vaccine containing adjuvants from GlaxoSmithKline. This perceived "two-tier" system has sparked controversy regarding the safety of the additives given to the public.

germany· angela merkel· adjuvants· baxter· glaxosmithkline

1:11:42 And this was... They've seen it, they've seen this before. Yeah! They've been on the slippery slope. Yeah they looked at history that you know actually teach their kids what went wrong and you know it's like hey German friends let's not do that again we have Carrie in Munich who is actually our 15th female listener when he'd a little bell or something. Ding! Hi Adam, someone said that since you've been in the States there was less overseas info which I don't find to be true at all. But here is some news from Germany! Oh thank you...I know you understand German but anyway here are some of the highlights that pop out of me she sends an article from Der Spiegel

1:12:22 Merkel and her cabinet have ordered vaccines without adjuvants. The army will also be getting shots without adjuvants, Speaker of the Bundesinnenministerium the Ministry of the Interior says they have ordered 200,000 non-adjuvanted vaccines from Baxter. Whoops! Well they didn't get that memo. No this is what's cool they've ordered 200,000 not non adjuvanted vaccines from Baxter and 50 million doses from GlaxoSmithKline that do have adjuvants for general population so the military

1:13:03 and apparently Merkel herself will be getting a non-adjuvanted vaccine but the general population gets 50 million doses. Also those getting non adjuvant doses are Paul Ehrlich Institute employees which is the medical institute that is granting access to the German market for vaccines who last week repeatedly defended the safety of adjuvant containing vaccines, but they're not going to smoke their own dope oh no! I mean don't we see what's happening peeps? Don't we see this and then in New York there was an actual lawsuit. I think there is a audio bite of that, hold on second you remember we talked about this where the healthcare professionals didn't want to get vaccinated and essentially they were told well your fired then go home

1:14:02 Generally speaking, a lot of healthcare professionals never get vaccinated for anything. They just stay healthy Yeah because they're smart Why can't I find this? Crap Well i'm sorry Okay well let's see you are done with this rant That was actually going to be the perfect...I don't know why I can't find it that was going to my perfect closer so before we hit the jingle let me just see if I can find it Just give me one more second I'm so sorry about this. Here it is, here it is... No, I'm not gonna edit that out! That's actual work! Screw you screw that! Here comes start the video. Start the video! Sorry we have a pre-roll

CHAPTER 26 / 33 Discussion

Humpty Dumpty Lyrics, BBC Nursery Rhyme Changes

The BBC's CBeebies channel altered the lyrics of "Humpty Dumpty" to have a happy ending, claiming the original version was too distressing for children. Instead of being unable to put him together, the new version states the king's horses "made Humpty happy again." The hosts mock this trend of sanitizing classic stories to avoid upsetting young audiences.

bbc· humpty dumpty· nursery rhymes· censorship· cbeebies

1:14:55 uh... from affects your act affects chevy dot com when he was supreme court judge in albany is granted a temporary restraining order blocking the mandate requiring health care workers to receive this seasonal flu and h one n one vaccines yeah that is good uh... thomas and mcnamara of albany grant for the temporary restraining order on their guests is not going to hold too long Yeah, no it won't. And that ladies and gentlemen is... No agenda recommends not taking the vaccine Can you hit the real news theme because I got one piece of real news that we need to talk about. Alright this is just a little side bit here The BBC has defended a decision to change the ending of nursery rhyme Humpty Dumpty

1:15:53 A version used on the CBeebies channel was altered, so rather than... All the king's horses and all the kings men couldn't put Humpty together again? Right. They had to change it to all the Kings Horses made Humpty happy again! The broadcaster said that change was made purely for creative reasons rather than trying to give a soft version of the rhyme for children That's your BBC. I don't get it! What is the point? Well, you know they wouldn't want to hurt the kids feelings if they couldn't put Humpty back together again now that they've been this way now he's happy This is like right out of The Hollywood Playbook everything has to have a happy ending

1:16:41 Labor MP Tom Harris told the Independent on Sunday, for goodness sake obviously children will find it far too violent distressing and horrific that Humpty could not be put back together again. My god... Apparently Little Miss Muffet has also been changed. There was a- She made friends with the spider instead of running away No no you're kidding me! This can't be true This is running, this article is in... Please send me that link. The Express! It's not in the Daily Mail. Yeah but the Express is not as bad as a Daily Mail I think it's actually the same publisher Seriously? I think it is Well they apparently have done this

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National Endowment for the Arts, TV Service Propaganda

A leaked memo and press releases from the Entertainment Industry Foundation reveal a coordinated effort to insert themes of "national service" into over 60 network television shows. This initiative, supported by the Obama administration and the NEA, focuses on education, health, and energy. The hosts view this as a form of state-sponsored media indoctrination.

nea· barack obama· propaganda· service· entertainment industry foundation

1:17:32 But where do they do it? Just on the CBeebies channel is where they change. I mean are they going to burn books so that can change it or we're gonna have like a CD crushing party, like you know, like we had them burn records from the 70s were going to burn nursery rhymes with Humpty Dumpty not feeling good There's your clip you can put in the show notes Thank You Take It For What Its Worth! I'm sure you read that leaked memo about uh... as it's been going around and about obama controlling your television set which of course isn't is why i didn't want to discuss it today until this came up um... with the national endowment for the arts you know they're telling people too put certain things in their television shows yet dolly we didn't know that union about this this week now now i didn't see anything but a leak mail which had by the way leaked memos like this always are bogus but not sure this one is too but it's it's he might be interested

1:18:32 Uh, okay. It may have to be something that we just put into the show notes but it's... God I can't believe you had- I mean a lot of people leaked Wait a minute it's uh it's called uh Obama controls your television you can google it find it's a here we go big Hollywood dot com which of course is the same guy does bright bar or whatever he said just a complete right wing not yeah but that the maze I think he really does have this memo that seems pretty I'm looking at John Nolte, he's one of the main guys there. Here it is September 10th of this year The Entertainment Industry Foundation posted a press release informing the world that from October 19 to 25 more than 60 network shows will spotlight the power and personal benefits of service and that this unprecedented block of TV programming is the first wave of a multi-year participate campaign

1:19:32 And this comes right on the, actually it's all coordinated because our president Barack Hussein Obama was in Texas yesterday or two days ago. Of course why would he be in the White House doing any actual work? And he spoke at President Bush Seniors Points of Light Institute And man, it's amazing. First Obama is there like you know Bush is fantastic he's awesome and this is part of the whole You will serve your country vibe that was really a part of the Obama campaign Yeah since you can't find work Yeah yeah essentially but its...it was just kind of weird

1:20:18 to have Obama really propping Bush and Bush propping Obama. Ideally, storylines will touch on one or more of the key issues that... Of course we've been doing this with Law & Order in some of the shows we've been deconstructing if you listen to us. Ideally, storylines will touch on one or more of the key issues that have outlined... That have outlined? It's not even... This was written by somebody in India that have outlined as the country's priorities for services, well somebody obviously can't write. One education of children, you got to do education with kids. Throw the children in there! And health and well-being

1:20:55 environmental conservation and reduced energy consumption. That's the trinity of course, Obama's Trinity has always been education health and environment... Energy! Education health and energy keeps pounding those three points home that is his main thing. And you know the funny thing was the way he is handling it if he had not done this bullshit crap in trade and try to do this healthcare thing which is blowing up in his face and gone after education as its number one priority The guy would be coasting right now. But we know that education is getting to the short end of it. Anyway, number four is economic development and financial security which was one of his sub points that he's used a few times and then support for military families which has obviously something to do with increasing the war

CHAPTER 28 / 33 Discussion

Obama and Bush Senior, Points of Light Institute

President Obama recently spoke at George H.W. Bush's Points of Light Institute, praising the former president's commitment to service. The hosts analyze the speech as a display of bipartisan unity used to promote the "you will serve" agenda. They note the use of humor and specific rhetorical techniques to make the message of national service more palatable to the public.

barack obama· george h.w. bush· points of light· national service· nlp

1:21:43 So that's the themes we'll be looking for in future and upcoming episodes. Everything, everything you see everywhere! Let's listen to a little bit of the President's speech at the points... By the way when Bush Senior Walker Bush Herbert Walker Bush when he did his points 1,000 Points Of Light speech The guy was ridiculed totally specially by the democrats completely like what a bonehead you know and and i think that no problem is talking about galactic universe of light it's ok now then in her experience there inspired her to develop turns out that uh... michelle actually worked for the points of lights institution instructed to convey gratitude was a funny speech by the way he what he had good jokes

1:22:32 He's funny. Yeah, but he's got writers here George Bush isn't just a president who promoted the ethic of service long before it was fashionable He's a citizen whose life has embodied in that ethic from his daring service as a Navy pilot during World War two Enlisting the day he turned 18 to his time in Congress at the CIA and as UN ambassador vice president and president He easily could have chosen a life of comfort and privilege. And instead... No, he didn't choose that at all! Time and again when offered the chance to serve he seized it

1:23:13 It was second nature to him. The continuation of a proud family tradition that he and Mrs Bush clearly passed on to their children... Yeah, it started with Prescott Bush's grandfather financing the Nazis A fine family tradition! ...and one which is carried on throughout his quote-unquote retirement How is that working out? He's funny And by the way, I love it when he gives you information and then cracks a joke. That's when the information is soaked up by it You know that's that's like a basic NLP Vulcan mind trick right there Spends at working tirelessly to help others without fanfare or any expectation or desire for recognition Though I do recall one endeavor of his that actually drew quite a bit of attention now was back in 2005

1:24:03 and some of you may remember this, he and President Clinton had agreed to come together to raise money. Right that was the tsunami victim so anyway so this whole thing is preparing us basically through media indoctrination So all your favorite shows will include, and I enlist our producers. We do a lot of work but even we can't cover this. We will not be able to do the work because it's just too much You've gotta get your DVRs on you gotta watching your favorite shows and watch for the clues. We showed it many times how works on Law & Order CSI What is your other favorite show John?

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Zoom H2 Recorder, Media Deconstruction Tips

The hosts recommend the Zoom H2 wave recorder as an affordable and high-quality tool for listeners to capture media clips for the show. They encourage the audience to monitor television programs for the "service" propaganda themes mentioned earlier. They explain how to connect the device to various audio sources to create digital copies of broadcasts.

zoom h2· audio recording· media analysis· ncis· podcasting

1:24:40 Well, I've been a lot of orders. Yes, that's where I've seen most of this sort of thing there the show I like watching them But I mean one of the shows that I will actually watch Consistently as NCIS NCIS right and CIS of course not at CIA but NCIS is but I haven't to propaganda in their The elements of propaganda have eluded me well it's got to be starting right now There is This is coordinated, the memo came out. It's going to be between the 16th and 25th of October. The speech was on the 16th so this started exactly on time So in the coming two weeks... Is it also sweeps week by the way? Could it be the best... No its not sweeps is it?

1:25:19 No, I don't think so. It's going to be happening right now stay tuned to it Be aware and record it if you can and let us know because you will see this popping up all over the place And it really shows that this is a continuation of Really? Well not just what What 40 where they call them 41 What president what Bush senior did yeah with his W. Yeah? He really started the you will service you will well essentially These are it's the brown shirts, it's a whole deal It's all coming together right on plan right on schedule by the way people always ask me what I used to record stuff like this off The air when I give them some tips on what to do The device if you want to get a gun you can get actually

1:26:12 There's a couple, iRiver has pretty good device but the device that you want to own everybody and I wish you know and this is not commercial we're not getting paid for this endorsement. But you wanna get a Zoom H2 and a zoom h2 is essentially a wave recorder also records MP3 directly It's a wave recorder and it has, you can essentially take your audio out from whatever device you're coming through. There is usually an extra couple of ports in the back but find one of the audio ports or sometimes you might have to get a left-right splitter there is a little RCA plug that stereo, mini stereo plug on one side and then its got two RCA jacks on

1:26:58 that plug into the left and right channel. That goes right into the H2, and you get a nice little stereo copy of whatever you want to record. And also this thing has four mics in it so you can take this device with not plugging anything but use as recorder with the microphone. You can actually go to a concert or rock band put it right in the middle do interviews with people It's one of the finest devices ever produced and they're very inexpensive around 150 bucks at most And that's what, you can send us clips. Please do because even the amount of work we put into this show we just can't cover all of it but your gonna be seeing it and its painful! It is painful to have to watch this stuff, it really is and we do it We give up family time John doesn't even live with his family thats how dedicated he is to the show You don't! You dont live with your family

CHAPTER 30 / 33 Discussion

No Agenda Business Model, Advertising Criticism

The hosts explain their refusal to take traditional advertising, citing the desire to remain uninfluenced by corporate interests. They criticize mainstream radio and cable news for their high ad-to-content ratios and the hypocrisy of hosts who attack industries that fund their programs. The No Agenda model relies entirely on listener donations to maintain editorial independence.

advertising· value-for-value· glenn beck· rush limbaugh· media independence

1:27:50 And you know what, John is... Well your family doesn't want to live with you. I know it's kind of the same thing but no he.. John in particular spends a lot of his time watching this crap fast forwarding through well I think NCIS he actually likes Fast-forwarding through stuff we watch C span all the time now see span 3 where all the cool stuff is and I haven't actually gotten into Caesar pan three yet, and we're happy were We're proud to bring you this stuff. We love the interaction. We loved your feedback Reading email is I spend at least an hour a day just on no agenda email just know agenda by itself

1:28:32 Would you however you John would you say it's about that much? Yeah, probably more yeah And we don't take any advertising because of course that would screw up the whole idea of media People could somebody call this sentence and no condemning us saying well You still your work for me video and they take advertising anyone on with this kind look the fact of the matter is We don't take advertising for a lot of different reasons one of them is because we don't want to influence a and It's separate from anything else we're doing and we don't want the interruptions if you listen to radio if you listen to Rush Limbaugh It's 20 minutes of rush limbaugh on 40 minutes of advertising. I mean, give me a break it really is Radio is the worst they don't even do that You know the right ratios? It's almost all yak-yak and it goes on forever I mean you switch from channel 2 channel are on the same clock so there's nothing but ads and look at cable Look at cable news as an example

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Listener Donations, Executive Producer Credits

A list of donors is read, including contributions from Daniel Scott, Jim Lunsford, and Simon Smith. The hosts acknowledge various donation amounts, some of which contain hidden meanings or "puns" like Jerry Brace's "Embraceware." They thank the "Gitmo Nation" for their financial support, which allows the show to continue without commercials.

donations· paypal· gitmo nation· executive producer· knights

1:29:29 they can even like Glenn Beck is against the pharmaceutical industry let's take a break boom there's another ad from the pharmaceutical industry so you gotta question this shit and I don't want anyone questioning us. So we have some donors how how was that free Honda you got John? That scooter Yeah. Right, all right let's thank people who make this show possible Daniel Scott Fort Worth Texas $84.19 you have any idea what that means? 84 19 I didn't see a note from him No Jim Lunsford on behalf of the Gitmo Nation Roundtable dot Mevio dot com

1:30:10 Yeah, I got to listen to their show again. I dropped out for a couple weeks just due to time constraints but it's stupid because you know i'm on the plane and want to listen to something and I completely forgot to hit my podcast downloader and get the latest show those guys do pretty good job is very interesting in when we get the radio stream really configured which I am hoping will be in the next couple of weeks We haven't chosen a stream manager yet John looking at you Hi! I'm completely avoiding my family. Not that hard, I think the Gitmo Nation Roundtable will be a fine addition to our family of programming that we're putting together It's good, it's cool. gitmonationroundtable.mevo.com $50 and 1 cent Simon Smith North Yorkshire UK We got some UK people Good Shane Brady

1:31:06 The vegan who writes out vegan he says pronounce it right because I always say vegan He was our executive producer. Yeah, Plattsburgh Missouri 101 50 so we see these are vegan in residence now? I guess so okay you can tell us what's going on with veggie burgers and Veggies in general John have you had your veggies today? Yeah, I had my veggies. Fermented potatoes that have been distilled into a clear liquid drink. Laurie Corpy from Helsinki Finland. John Petrucini who is just...I think this is a night thing so he's got another 50.

1:31:57 Louis Grana from Luzon, Switzerland. Lozan. Lozan, Lozan. I think that was Luzan? I think it's Lozan. Lozan. I think maybe that is the way the Dutch pronounce it. Yes probably That's 50. Jerry Brace the guy who came in second here from Newfoundland and he wants us to em... oh this isn't right didn't get the pun at first but he runs a company called Embraceware dot com 101 dollars and one cent And his last name is Brace Get It? Embraceware Got It Sterling Ellsworth again, again yet again Santa Barbara 777.77 guy Ah he's getting close I love that! We have to count the number of sevens Well he can only do that seven times He can do seven times a donation of 777

1:32:50 and then you 77 times because he might never know I don't care I love it thank you thank you so much sterling you must have money he's a sterling fellow Sander Hulks Bergen looks better That's probably right. $70. How do you spell it? H-O-K-S-B-E-R-G-E-N is the way I have it. Hoxbergen, yeah. He's Dutch. Yeah he is Dutch. He's from Zandam. Z-A-N-D-A-M. That's Zandom. Zandom! Zandom. Zandom. Zandom. Okay... It's 50 cents a show, he says that's 70 dollars so people out there who want to give us fifty cents a show for all the shows we've done that's seventy bucks

1:33:38 And then Asher Golden, if that's indeed his real name or her real name I think as a man maybe. Annandale Virginia $50.29 which also has some meaning and I didn't get it and then of course our East Coast research guy we have to give him the big kudos this week he owns the show $850 on top of his previous donations. Cary Lutz is our knight. And that makes him a knight, this is our... how many knights do we now have? Five. And he asked me to read a proclamation as part of his knighthood. Now I can see this being the main thing that's going to happen. I was thinking maybe I should do a little bit of echo

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Knighting Ceremony, Cary Lutz Proclamation

Cary Lutz is officially knighted following a $1,000 donation to the show. Adam Curry performs a formal proclamation with echo effects, elevating Lutz to the "Knights of the Round Table of the No Agenda Quango." The proclamation includes a pledge to stand against corruption and collectivism while defending the rights of the masses to consume media and pursue capitalism.

cary lutz· knighthood· ayn rand· capitalism· quango

1:34:25 Would that be a good idea? If you can pull it off. Yeah, I can do it hold on let me just find my echo chamber here Okay one two two hey oh why is not working of course oh thats density I was doing the wrong thing here dry wet blah blah blah Two two two two two One two two how's that sound Sounds like nothing No I got some real delay in there maybe I could do something Ah here we go Oh there we go Now were talking On this day of October 18th, 2009 I Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak do hereby elevate Kerry Lutz by virtue of his tithe to the Knights of the Round Table of the No Agenda Quango

1:35:12 While standing against the forces of corruption, governmental theft and the erosion of the United States Constitution The Knights fight a never-ending battle for truth justice and the American way As well as defending the rights of the masses to consume unlimited amounts of online porn To attend strip clubs. To patronize hookers. To watch too much daytime television and Michael Jackson videos The Knights have taken the Ayn Rand pledge to pursue all enemies of capitalism and to persecute the advocates of collectivism no matter how high their perch. There is room at the round table for other would-be knights, you only have to log on your PayPal account and click and send $1,000 dollars and you too can take your rightful place in the helm of leading edge thought and commentary. Nobility awaits you!

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Outro, Sunday Show Tradition, Sign-off

The hosts conclude the episode by asking for listener feedback on the proposed Monday-Wednesday-Friday schedule versus the traditional Sunday "church" slot. They provide their website addresses and reiterate their appreciation for the donor-supported model. The show signs off from "Gitmo Nation West" in San Francisco and Silicon Valley.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· san francisco· silicon valley· podcast outro

1:36:07 You should have paid us by the hour. Yeah, really? This has been a long-ass show in general Well, we gotta make sure to mention that the people should go to noagendashow.com or dvorak.org slash NA and uh...we need another round of donations and if somebody else wants become a knight will read something let's not make it that long I kinda liked it! Now I got to get the echo off You just like hearing your own voice Yes well isn't why do this show in the first place John is just hear our own voice? Well you listen to this show more than I do Anyway, noagendashow.com please help us out we appreciate everybody and all the people who subscribed to the $5 rate too We really appreciate that and a lot of people of course give less than 50 or 100 And we really appreciate all of you I mean it's pain for keeping the show on there on the air for sure And uh...we'd like to go to three shows a week and we would like your feedback on whether Monday Wednesday Friday would be acceptable or if you really do feel this Sunday show is

1:37:10 is a part of the church that you need to attend for your sanity and sanctity. I think it's better than the NFL Church Coming to you from the minimum containment cell which is securely located in the Crackpot Command Center, in Gitmo Nation West San Francisco California...I'm Adam Curry And from Cloudy Bay or appears to be so I'm John C. Dvorak.