Episode 1293 · Monday, 9 November 2020

Covidiots

Mainstream media outlets pivot from pandemic lockdowns to victory celebrations while legal battles over Dominion Voting Systems and software glitches intensify across the swing states.

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The No Agenda Show · No. 1293

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CNN commentator Van Jones and NBC anchors led a media-wide celebration following projections of a Joe Biden victory, while Donald Trump challenged the results from the White House. The shift in media tone from social distancing mandates to mass street celebrations in Philadelphia and San Francisco marks a pivot in the national narrative. Meanwhile, legal challenges led by Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell target voting irregularities in Pennsylvania and Michigan, citing software glitches and backdated ballots.

CISA Director Chris Krebs maintains the 2020 election was the most secure in history, contradicting claims from Steve Pieczenik regarding blockchain-watermarked ballots. In Antrim County, a software error erroneously moved 6,000 votes, raising questions about Dominion Voting Systems across 47 other counties. Former CIA Director John Brennan warns of a dangerous transition period, suggesting potential firings of FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel before the January inauguration. Internationally, Denmark ordered a cull of 17 million mink due to a mutated COVID-19 strain, while Russia implemented a Social Monitoring app requiring selfies from quarantined citizens every four hours.

Anderson Cooper compared the President to an obese turtle flailing in the sun, a moment that Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak analyze as the peak of media derangement. The show features a report on a Santa Cruz service dog successfully registering to vote and receiving a ballot. Jonathan Haidt and Neil Postman provide the intellectual framework for understanding the current Huxleyan state of American culture and the mental health crisis among Gen Z.


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CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Election 2020 Media Projections and Austin Neighborhood Noise

Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak open episode 1293 of the No Agenda Show on November 8, 2020, following media projections of Joe Biden's presidential victory. Curry describes loud celebrations in his Southeast Austin neighborhood near Section 8 housing, while Dvorak notes massive gatherings in San Francisco's Castro district. They critique the media's immediate pivot from social distancing concerns to celebrating the election results.

adam curry· john c. dvorak· joe biden· election 2020· austin· silicon valley· section 8

00:00 Hey man, can you turn it down? Adam Curry. John C. DeVora. It's Sunday November 8th 2020 this is your award winning Give All Nation Media assassination episode 1293 This is no agenda Looking for the fat lady! And broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin Texas capital of The Drone Star State In the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry and from Northern Silicon Valley where we discovered That if you take the year 2020 and divide it by 666, the mark of the beast, you get 30330. Joe Biden's text number! We've elected Satan!! I'm John C. Dvorak. Yeah... yeah okay well there's that. Satan. Oh man man man dude we almost got into- Well it was okay for me but Tina got no sleep last night

01:02 Was there an earthquake coming or what was the deal? You know we live in Southeast Austin on the tip of gentrification. So, yes so we have the apartments behind our house. The section A departments were playing their Mexican music until 4 30 this morning And it's like you can't go tell people who are partying that they can, you know. It was like not on a... Not with such a... Not in their section 8 apartments thank you very much! Such a victory I liked it so fine but again man it's the distortion that gets me and just in our bedroom it was just...

01:48 Oh my goodness, it's okay man. Can you turn it down? Yeah really so My goodness our local areas who we had the biggest party will there's a big giant celebration party in the Castro yeah Massive yeah and you look at they had a chopper fuck and I'm looking at this Look, this is the size of a Trump rally and I don't see anybody in the news media complaining about no social distancing lack of masks. No we would that not fine? Those other things out the window it's what it is you do know that's just what it is John

02:31 It is what it is, what it is. Yes my goodness and right after show day too all of this happened and it was just coming down fast and furious And we knew that the media would not give up their position as the ones to call the election but again like the Election evening speech that Joe Biden did which was not a victory or concession speech Which was rare in my recollection now we had victory speech before a concession was given. Has that happened? Satan! Okay, I gotcha but has that ever happened before? Has Satan ever descended upon us? Satan hasn't won outright... So we don't know it was okay so and we'll talk about all the potential fraud and everything there's lots of stuff to go through but

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Kamala Harris Victory Signs and Philadelphia Celebrations

Reports from Philadelphia describe pre-printed victory signs being distributed from vans immediately following the election call. Observers noted that many signs featured Kamala Harris rather than Joe Biden, highlighting her ties to Berkeley, Oakland, and San Francisco. The lack of Biden's image on certain campaign materials in these urban centers is noted as a significant branding choice.

kamala harris· philadelphia· brian the gay crusader· berkeley· oakland· victory signs

03:31 People were so invested in this and it was so obvious with the celebrations. It was, I mean it was fantastic to see everybody's so happy and so elated we went out to dinner last night with one of the Millennials and she was super happy not with Joe Biden winning by the way Because he's no good, but just you know having defeated racism that was a win. So I understand the jubilance Brian the gay crusader was cruising the streets of Philadelphia And he was sending me pictures in real time. A van arrived on the scene, opened up their doors and out came all the We Won pre-printed signs What was interesting not a single one of them had Joe Biden's picture on it It was only Kamala Oh you mean... He sent you pics? Yeah! He said I can't find a single one for the newsletter

04:29 Okay, well I'll He's hearing this so he'll send them to you. I'll send what I have but oh yeah It was he's the one that was sending me the signs. You know when When they were counting the votes and all of this stuff both sides But this was the victory party in this pre-printed science did not have Camelot on it I'm sorry had a camel a bunch of camels stuff going on here there was Berkeley had a big party because Kamala lived in Berkeley. She's a Berkeley girl then Oakland had a big Party cuz she's an Oakland girl Yeah, and the San Francisco had a big party because she's a San Francisco girl and possibly gay But the most

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Van Jones Emotional Reaction and Prevalence Induced Concept Change

CNN commentator Van Jones delivered an emotional on-air response to Joe Biden's projected victory, citing the difficulty of parenting under the Trump administration. The hosts analyze this as an example of "Prevalence Induced Concept Change," where the perception of racism is amplified by media focus. Jones specifically questioned why Donald Trump singled out Detroit and Philadelphia, cities with large Black populations, for corruption allegations.

van jones· cnn· anderson cooper· prevalence induced concept change· detroit· philadelphia· racism

05:22 Interesting response I saw, and there was... And I have a whole bin full of just quick media responses with what people were saying and who all of the sudden appeared on the scene. It was really because familiar faces came back after months of being vacant. And Van Jones was on set with Anderson Cooper as the news came in that the media had determined Joe Biden and Kamala Harris had won the election again The media has determined this So that's, you know they've kept their with their mantra and with their mission. But Van Jones was deeply affected and this was real. Why? Well listen to me... If you say it's real it's fine but why? Why was he affected? This had everything to do with race. Why is he talking about Detroit? I'm sorry as he sets it up so beautifully and then messes it up once again

06:22 Oh, God. Where did it? Here it is! I'm gonna edit that so it sounds slicker. Van for your thoughts. Why bother? It's um... Well, it's easier to be a parent this morning. It's easier to be a dad. It's easier-it's easier What?! To tell your kids character matters. It matters. Telling the truth matters being a good person matters and it's easier for whole lot of people If you're Muslim in this country, you don't have to worry if the president doesn't want you here. If you're an immigrant, you don't have to worry if the president's gonna be happy to have babies snatched away or send dreamers back for no reason. It's a vindication for a lot of people who really suffered.

07:22 I can't breathe. That wasn't just George Floyd, that was a lot of people who felt they couldn't breathe every day you're waking up and you get in these tweets and you just don't know- And cheese having trouble? You go into the store and people who have been afraid to show their racism are getting nastier and nastier to you and you're worried about your kids and you worry about your sister And can she just go to Walmart and get back into her car without somebody saying something to her? You spent so much of your life energy just trying to hold it together. This is a big deal

08:00 us just to be able to get some peace and have a chance for reset. And the character of the country matters, and being a good man matters. I just want my sons to look at this, it's easy to do it in cheap way and get away with stuff but it comes back around. It comes back around and is a good day for this country. I'm sorry for For them it's not a good day, but for whole lot of people it is a good day. And I think this... Okay stop the presses and give yourself Clip of the Day right off the bat! This is I think a great example what a PICCY is. PICCY, perception induced concept change

08:51 He has seen so much racism during the past four years that probably did not exist like the berries you're trying to pick as we explained on the last show. Yeah, I think that's by one of their greatest moments in the history of The No Agenda Show is discussing that perception-induced concept change and it's real this guy was really affected That's not acting. It just is... And just to accentuate that it's all about race, here's Van Jones in a earlier or maybe later segment with David Axelrod Why is he talking about Detroit? Why is he talking about Philadelphia? Yeah! It's not subtle. Its race! Its race! It's Donald Trump's go-to play and its disgusting so I just want to say that. I appreciate you teeing it up

09:40 unbelievable that he can say these cities are known for corruption etc. There's this corruption all across this country in every institution why are you singling out these two black cities? Oh there it is! Why are you denying the victory that these people have fought for I'm upset about it... There's no white people in Detroit by the way because African-Americans have fought so hard for the right to vote, I just want to finish African Americans and our allies have fought so hard for the right. This right to vote for us is precious John Lewis died this year

10:17 This is something... We went and we got young African-Americans across this country to believe, to buy in, to stand in line, to do this thing. And have the President of the United States crap all over their efforts! It hurts! You can say he didn't mean it to be racial but it feels racial to us I should've said prevalence induced by the way not perception, prevalence induced I like perception But that's not the official name We can change it. Okay, percept... hereby changed! Done that's how easy it is It was nice by the way how Van fit in that little weenie time for a reset on that previous clip

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

CNN Commentary on Trump and the Obese Turtle Metaphor

Anderson Cooper and Jake Tapper provided sharp critiques of Donald Trump's post-election legal challenges. Cooper famously compared the President to an "obese turtle on his back flailing in the hot sun" after Trump made claims of voter fraud without presenting immediate evidence. Tapper suggested it was time for Republicans to both "praise Caesar and prepare to bury him."

anderson cooper· jake tapper· cnn· donald trump· obese turtle· republicans

11:02 It's time for a reset. And Anderson Cooper, not black... He has his own way of venting his anger. I don't think we've ever seen anything like this from the President of the United States and as Jake said it is sad and truly pathetic and dangerous but you'll notice that the president did not have any evidence presented at all. No real actual evidence of any kind of fraud. He talked about people putting up papers in windows, he talked about things that he'd seen on the internet... That is the President of United States! That is most powerful person in world and we see him

11:49 Like an obese turtle on his back flailing in the hot sun realizing his time is over. That is a great image! Sick I love that, Jake Tapper is also... this whole CNN crew was great Jake Tapper he's like that kid who would stand at the back while the fight is going on and then when you know the losers are on the ground they go over there and they go HA take that bully Yeah, he's got some good ones like this. It is time for Republicans to start praising Caesar and preparing to bury him, both. What else did he have here? He and his offspring, his spawn are out there putting out tweets that are just you know... His spawn! I love that! He's taken it to a whole new level as a serious journalist It's really really good

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

NBC News Fact-Checking Trump's Election Night Speech

NBC News interrupted Donald Trump's White House address to fact-check his claims regarding victory in states like Georgia and Pennsylvania. Anchors argued that the President was making statements that were "frankly not true" because millions of votes remained uncounted. The hosts characterize this interruption as a disservice to viewers who wanted to hear the incumbent's perspective directly.

nbc news· chuck todd· donald trump· fact-checking· georgia· pennsylvania

12:50 NBC, of course you know it was interesting to see how Trump came out after Biden on election night and he said hey this is not over. But what did NBC do when the president came out? This was his counter speech to a kind of pre-victory speech without concession from Joe Biden and here's what NBC did. I said, What happened to the election? It's off and we have all these announcers saying what happened and then they said oh because you know what happened they knew they couldn't win so they said let's go to court And did i predict this Newton Did I say this I've been saying this from the day I heard

13:41 They were going to send out tens of millions of ballots. We're listening with the president speaking at the White House, but we got a dip in here because there have been several statements that are just frankly not true as the president was going through some of the states stating that he has prevailed in those states naming Georgia saying they're winning Georgia it or did they won Georgia? There's no way they'll catch us that they're winning Pennsylvania One Michigan the fact of the matter is those states have not come close to counting all of their votes They're still outstanding vote. Do we have a moment to go to Chuck? We'll keep our ears on this and promise to go back as news events warrant, but just can you explain

14:19 As news events warrant, the incumbent president is contesting what his challenger is saying. It has to be something newsworthy we'll just talk over this and fact check in real time with no evidence. Why it's not possible for anyone to say they've won in this particular state? So what we have here first of all two 1.9 million votes have not been counted... I just found that disservice to their viewers quite honestly mmm Not right not to there, but what am I saying? Why am I even thinking that way it's a service to their viewers. It's exactly what their viewers need John Brennan reappeared of course He's back on the scene he's back out of hiding now that he feels little bolder John Brennan former CIA chief under Obama and Definitely involved in some shenanigans somehow

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

John Brennan on Institutional Stability and Potential Cabinet Firings

Former CIA Director John Brennan appeared on NBC to discuss the transition period, expressing concern that Donald Trump might "sack" FBI Director Christopher Wray or CIA Director Gina Haspel. Brennan characterized the ten weeks leading up to the inauguration as a dangerous time for American institutions. He asserted that Trump's authority would vanish entirely at noon on January 20th.

john brennan· cia· fbi· christopher wray· gina haspel· nicole wallace

15:18 And he's a NBC analyst and he came on the show, on the panel with Nicole Wallace. And I just love how he characterizes this win by Joe Biden. First, your reaction to what would appear to be Joe Biden's inevitable victory here? Well, I think Joe Biden has demonstrated that he is ready to be president because he has been very presidential in terms of his poise and in terms of his patriotism and professionalism as we still await the official results of the election This is... he's ready because he looks the part. So I am very confident that Joe Biden is going to be inaugurated in January, but I am concerned about what may happen in the next 10 weeks as Donald Trump refuses to recognize and acknowledge the will of the American people. Ooh yes this is where it starts to get very hairy and Brennan is here on the scene to tell you that boy

16:15 Boy, it's not looking good. You know he still has control of the institutions Do you think this scenario where we once again say oh? The institutions will hold the very ones that Donald Trump has really vandalized and ransacked do you think it is up to the FBI in the department? What Tom you know hey ransacked the FBI this what he just said let's listen again Vandalize and ransacked do you think Let's go back, that's funny. Hey, we know you're in there. You're trespassing! Well I think they will try to do that but wouldn't be surprised if he decides to sack Christopher Wray as well as maybe Gina Haspel at CIA and install people who are going to try to do his bidding for him

17:12 And so that's why I do believe this is a very dangerous time, because as your previous guests have said Donald Trump is not used to losing at all and he's going to do everything possible. He still retains the powers of the presidency until noon on January 20th and so he can do a lot of damage domestically as well internationally before he is forced to leave office because he will no longer have the authority to order anybody around after January 20th Such insight from Mr. Brennan, it's fantastic! Some people showed up after months of absence on the networks this was on ABC and they had advice for the incoming president

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

Rahm Emanuel and the Computer Coding Retraining Proposal

Rahm Emanuel proposed a massive federal initiative to retrain displaced retail workers as computer coders within six months. The hosts dismiss this as a "big lie," arguing that the market does not require millions of new coders and recalling Emanuel's previous ties to Cisco-funded charter schools in Chicago. They suggest the "learn to code" mantra is a recurring political trope with little practical utility.

rahm emanuel· computer coding· retail jobs· cisco· chicago· job training

17:54 Rahm Emanuel from the Chicago Crime Tactics family, he came in to say exactly what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris should tell everybody who is working in retail. And there's going to be people like a JCPenney and other retail those jobs aren't coming back give them the tools six months you're gonna become a computer coder we'll pay for it and you'll get millions of people to sign up for that. Stop! I'm glad you were able to hear that. Wow Give him six months. We'll teach you how to code and we'll pay for it! It's fantastic! Give them the tools, six months you're gonna become a computer coder...we'll pay for it! Give them the tools! You get here's your- We don't need this many computer coders! We do! We need coders! We need more coders yes of course we do

18:45 This is the big lie. I wish people would like realize what a big lie the whole girls can code, you can code we can code People get fired from their job they go code this is a malarkey and I did say it I'm gonna use some of the satanic terms once in a while. It's okay, we-I have my garlic on so it's not a problem well let's just go back and finish this clip it's short but it is beautiful it's just beautiful Those jobs aren't coming back give them the tools six months you're going to become a computer coder we'll pay for it and you'll get millions of people who sign up for that they are not coding for who? And we need to give them a lifeline towards the next chapter Well if you remember

19:25 When Chicago under Rahm Emanuel got rid of, closed down all the public schools and brought in the charter schools they were paid for and I presume are continued to be paid for by Cisco. And they had this whole pipeline you remember? They were built near the Cisco factory where the fresh coders could go straight from school into Cisco do you remember any of that? I guess vaguely and i think i kind of messed it up in my brain to think that they're going to go straight from coding school to prison. Yes well, it is Chicago after all yeah it's one of two paths straight to prison or straight to cisco to go code either one we are very fortunate that the lucky moment

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

Kamala Harris Victory Call and Republican Impeachment Scenarios

A viral video captured Kamala Harris telling Joe Biden "We did it" over the phone, which the hosts analyze for her tone and demeanor. They discuss a political scenario where Biden is removed via the 25th Amendment, leading to a Harris presidency that results in a Republican landslide in the 2022 midterms. This theory suggests a Republican-led House could then impeach Harris to install a Republican Speaker as President.

kamala harris· joe biden· 25th amendment· kevin mccarthy· midterms· 2022

20:13 that Kamala Harris found out she was the vice president-elect according to the media, was caught on tape. This is a very lucky moment as she's talking to Joe. We did it! You're going to be the next President of The United States She's drunk again Of course she's drunk and... As an aside if Biden & Harris are inaugurated she's gonna be great for the show You know she's- Sounds like it'd be great for the show's income. Well, you gotta stop saying that! So what? It's what it is... I mean you can't- So what?! No income no show! Well if they're- That's exactly right They're destroying institutions all around the world Including The Noah Jedner Show We'll get to do a- Go back to our old game Oh, you mean- You might as well have the clip at the ready Uh Drunk or not drunk

21:12 We've done this with her a couple times. I don't know if you played the old clip, it's an old classic. Okay let me see... No that's not it. I really don't remember which one it is. No, that's not it. Should be drunk or not drunk. Do you know how many drunk or not drunks there are here? But I actually don't see a drunk or not drunk jingle. Well we'll find it and start using it. She seems like she's plastered half the time nowadays! I think she knows she's in over her head and she's going to get the job as president... And its gonna be a disaster

21:49 I already saw, um... Let's see. Where was this? It was- I have the scenario! I can reexpress it. Well okay let's hear the scenario The scenario is they get in Biden has got Parkinson's and other issues They give him the 25th amendment treatment which Kamala would go along with because she gets to be president She did run for that so she wanted to be president So now she could be president She becomes President She's a fuck up Meanwhile, you get to the midterm elections. This all happens before 2022. The Republicans just kick ass because of the mess that the Democrats have created. They win the House easily and they add to the Senate maybe to the point where they have 60 seats. They impeach Kamala!

22:35 Yeah, and they get the votes and kick her out and put in this speaker of the house Which will be a Republican which would probably be McCarthy character Dead woman walking A lot of Republicans that scenario by the way has been it's not my idea That is a Republican scenario that some people are muttered about and that's why they kind of hope Trump does get kicked out because then They can really kick some ass. Hmm and Trump has already done his job He's got his three Supreme Court nominees, a million federal judges. He brought attention to China nobody cared about that including Biden until now he did brought attention to the border problems and it's all they needed to do because he was kind of sloppy in the office he couldn't play the game right they were out to get him and the media was just so united against him

23:28 He also brought attention to the media. He's the one who really popularized the idea of fake news! He's done his job, he can now go off I think and start a news network to compete with Fox because Fox is sold out because of James Murdoch and his wife that's when it started And she's like a big Hillary bot And the whole operation is going down the tubes because just becoming another MSNBC, they can bring out Tucker and Laura Ingraham. Her frow Ingraham can come over maybe even Hannity who doesn't really matter because he could do whatever he wants and then you start a new network with somebody with the help of Burnett

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Bush v. Gore 2000 Comparison and John Yoo Analysis

John Yoo of the Hoover Institution provides a historical retrospective on the 2000 Florida recount and the Supreme Court's intervention. The discussion highlights the role of "hanging chads" and the eventual cessation of recounts ordered by the Florida state courts. The hosts compare the legal environment of 2000 to the current challenges faced by the Trump campaign in 2020.

john yoo· bush v. gore· supreme court· florida· hanging chads· al gore

24:08 And Burnett could be the new Roger Ailes and they can get this thing going off the ground and become, you know, media moguls. I think that would be their way to go! Okay so that is definitely a scenario which makes a lot of sense and if you look at the president... To me he looks kind of like a man defeated maybe it's just tired i can imagine. I'm tired from just partying last night uh and that wasn't me partying Let me just read the statement that the campaign put out, just so we know because this is obviously not over. Fat Lady's not in yet and I think it's probably useful to understand similar scenarios and then the process and then I want to talk about what's being looked at regarding voter fraud. So the process is actually very convoluted there are so many different things that can happen

25:09 But maybe we go back to what happened in 2000, which I thought was very similar to this where there were discrepancies in the votes and then they had to go down and stop everything. And let's check out if these votes are real or if they were hanging chads or dimples... That was kind of the focus of it all but John Yoo who is at The Hoover Institution And I think he was in the Department of Justice during the Bush years. He's the guy who wrote the memo that said torture is okay? Ah, yes! Excellent. That's funny. He was actually a Cal professor at Hull Place. Well no but it's... well right now he's at the Hoover Institution and I don't know if he's still teaching at Cal

25:54 Anyway, so he explains what happened in Florida 2000 which is just I think it's good to hear just to understand because it's not exactly what's happening here. Florida and its electoral votes were the deciding factor without Florida neither Bush nor Gore could get a majority of the Electoral College And so the problem was that in several of the counties in Florida, because Florida like most states gives the responsibility to conducting the elections and counting votes to counties. Down at that level, there were many ballots which arguably were not valid because people had not actually chosen a candidate for president. And this was the day of the hanging chad—this was the day when you would punch a hole in the ballot. Some of the ballots people had not punched a hole all the way through for the president

26:46 And they might have just made a little dimple where the chad was hanging and not flew. And then there were arguments that people had made mistakes on the ballots because Ralph Nader also was running for president, and you saw strangely high vote totals for Nader in some of the counties. The election was already close and in the range where you would have an automatic recount That recount, as the original vote did fell for President Bush. But then the Florida courts intervened. The Florida state courts intervened. and they started to require more recounts, and they started to push the deadline back for the choice of the electors as they thought more and more counties in Florida might have made mistakes in a judge to vote legitimate or the way they countervote. And it would've gone on except the US Supreme Court eventually intervened and stopped the Florida courts

27:43 from ordering more recounts. And so then the original win for George W Bush was allowed to go forward, those electors were allowed to be picked and then their votes could go to Washington DC for the final electoral vote count. Now I wasn't as informationally aware back in the 2000's that I was doing other things But man, that's not the way I remembered it all. Oh you know they went back and counted and figured out what was a vote or wasn't a vote this was a Chad that was good but then that had nothing to do with it! The Supreme Court stepped in said now you gotta stop doing that just stop it And I would have to look at it to see what grounds but they basically went back to the original tally. That we should mention

28:34 which is the act that long after the fact, the documents are still available in The Miami Herald or kind of a left-leaning typical newspaper. Went back and did to count themselves with using a team of people took months and they came to conclusion that Bush did win This was brought up on the C-SPAN show a couple of times and once in front of Toobin, the perv. Yeah we know Toobin the perv And he said, I don't think that's true because he was in denial and all the Democrats were in denial to this day. And Al Gore still goes when it gives a presentation says hi, I'm your should have been president. What a douche! He does right? Well, I think this election is going to go all the way to the Supreme Court and

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

CISA Director Chris Krebs on Election Security

Chris Krebs, Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA), released a video assuring the public that the 2020 election was the most secure in history. Krebs stated there was no evidence of foreign cyber actors changing votes, though he warned of "adversaries" attempting to introduce chaos through sensational claims. The hosts note the absence of any mention of ballot watermarking in his official statement.

chris krebs· cisa· cybersecurity· foreign interference· election integrity· dhs

34:47 There are two things that we're doing the rounds and we discussed them both on Thursday. By the way, any accusation just at this level is always going to be without physicals I don't know what evidence they want except for the fact that there's a lot of anomalies that don't make any sense That's kind of evident, circumstantial But you know, that's just what they're doing The whole thing has been a setup it seems to me Well, there may be a couple setups And just to get to this now There were two theories, rumors pieces of news floating around about how if voter fraud was being committed. If it was being detected if it was being followed if it's been tracked and we mentioned both of them and the first one is the tracked ballots

35:41 and the involvement of Department of Homeland Security in printing these ballots with special watermarks which varied from isotopes to other types of things that I've heard. And so the first thing i'd like to do is play this video from the CISA director, this is the outfit in the government that is responsible for the safety of the elections and he posted quite a long video so just grabbed the pertinent first part of it and explains exactly what they did. Hi, I'm Chris Krebs with the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency For the last several years we've been working with election officials across the country to ensure that the 2020 election is as secure as possible

36:29 We're now in the final stretch of the election and tens of millions of voters have already cast their votes free from foreign interference. We remain confident that no foreign cyber actor can change your vote, and we still believe it would be incredibly difficult for them to change the outcome at a national level But that doesn't mean various actors won't try to introduce chaos in our elections and make sensational claims that overstate their capabilities. In fact, the days and weeks just before an after election day are the perfect time for our adversaries to launch efforts intended to undermine your confidence in the integrity of the electoral process. Cyberactors can do this by taking advantage of the fact that sometimes it's not clear how technology is used

37:14 For starters, election officials use computers to improve both your ability to vote and the accuracy of the vote itself. But in doing so election officials understand that these systems aren't perfect and sometimes things break malfunction or could even be hacked. You know, everything's all good. No mention of any printing or tracking of the ballots and what I had heard from one of our military intelligence people was that there was some tracking mechanism in place now as the show ended it became a little more clear what the full story was and Steve Pchenik

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Steve Pieczenik and the QFS Blockchain Sting Theory

Steve Pieczenik appeared on InfoWars claiming that the Department of Homeland Security conducted a "sting operation" using QFS blockchain technology and watermarked ballots to track voter fraud. The hosts express deep skepticism regarding these claims, noting the overlap with "Q" conspiracy theories and a suspicious "DHS press release" circulating online. They suggest Pieczenik may have been "hoaxed" by unreliable sources.

steve pieczenik· qfs blockchain· infowars· watermarks· dhs· sting operation

37:55 I guess he went on InfoWars or maybe multiple places and he started talking about this exact same thing that we had talked about. But what blew me away is that it wasn't just some watermarking or tracking, but the story goes its the QFS blockchain that includes GPS tracking And it was activated at four o'clock in the morning when the phony ballots started coming in. Now, the reason... First of all for Steve Pachanek he staked his reputation on this to me in an email because I said QFS blockchain? Because I know all about this story of the QFS blockchain because this is part

38:49 the FedNow real-time payment system is supposedly going to be. We've talked about it on the show, it's the quantum financial system that has off world servers I mean you laughed in my face about it now FedNow was actually happening but somehow this QFS blockchain came into this story and that this financial network that are supposedly going to circumvent all existing networks will be pegged on gold, there'll be money, you know whatever the story is and there's multiple. And there are people John who swear their life to me that this is true! Yeah I mean really... Can I just throw one little thing in there? Sure 10,000 sealed indictments Right well it's all part of the same thing now but Pachinik

39:38 He really, in an email to me, staked his reputation on it in some personal ways. I will mention Mimi somehow...I guess on Facebag this Pachinik video has been floating around and got everybody a titter And she calls me up! What is this? Who's the Steve Pie-chich-in-chich? Pie-zunenick! That's Steve Pachinik he's like a friend of the show And she goes on and she said, so this thing was a sting? And they're gonna bust all these people. I think yeah... Okay! Anyway you know my uh- This would be my position Yeah no i understand Um So for me it's very complicated because Well I want to hear more about what he said to you

40:28 He's he brought this to a very personal level which I'm not going to discuss But he you know, it was like I will never talk to him again if this turns out to be bogus That's that's the level of it. You know, it's like a serious thing Now we had already done the show, but this QFS I'm like no no It's it's a hard enough for me to get my header on QFS as the replacement for real-time transactions and somehow XRP ripple altcoin has something to do with it. That's hard enough But okay, I'll go along but then this same system I think is very possible because what is the one thing that is consistent in

41:08 amongst the financial system, this tracking system and even people who would frequently listen to Steve Pachenik is Q. The letter Q So this may just be a... maybe we haven't figured out like hey you Q idiots are you gonna sit around and wait for this? And the next thing that circled around was This isn't my favorite A press release which now I can't share this This will eventually go on the AP is the way it's shared. Verified Department of Homeland Security, DHS announces election audit sting after contentious US elections sparks confusion and outrage from election skeptics I look at that headline and right away go nope! Nope there is no press release ever written like that would you agree?

42:00 I'm not sure that i would or wouldn't let you gonna have to read it and I have to think about it. Here's the first thing is the print now, You're going to have the...you're gonna read just a headline. That's all caps I would assume No but it is emboldened It's not in all caps okay well thats check mark one thats usually press releases So should I just read the first paragraph? Maybe that'll help.. No! I want you to read me the headlines Okay here comes the headlines This IS the headline DHS announces election audit sting and by the way each word is capitalized. Does that make any sense? No, that's fine I can see that DHS announces election audit sting after contentious US elections sparks confusion and outrage from election skeptics there's no way you put the word election in a headline three times

42:57 Well, you could if you're a few allows the PR person I can see that being a possibility but using the word skeptics in a headline is pretty pretty Skeptical sketch. Okay, but let's just assume that okay read me the first paragraph all right in a stunning turn of events That's my favorite part So I have little faith in this. I want to believe, because it's a beautiful story just as I want to believe that QSS is a real thing and the gold standard is gonna save us and we're all going live...I mean I want to believe at all but so far there's too much Q circling around you know the first time I have to say this the first time he listened to Joe DiGenova

43:46 And this would include me because I'm going back a few years. Sure, it's just everything just sounds right like the guys in on it Yeah He knows what's going on It's after awhile you kind of get I think that I think Pachenik has just been been hoaxed You know, it's okay for people to be hoaxed but the way he presented this John was I wasn't allowed to talk about it. I've been given the go-ahead so all you patriots can know about this and that can pass it along So we'll be ready Okay But either And I think he even went so far as to say, you're not hearing the president right now. This is the art of war He's drawing everybody out let everybody show their true face which of course is exactly what is happening that is true We're seeing the media's true face we're seeing an entire generation who are hell-bent on retribution Just...I'm going to stomp you in the face you Nazi bitch! I mean this is the kind of stuff that's going on

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Dominion Voting Systems and Pennsylvania Data Translation Issues

Dominion Voting Systems faces scrutiny over alleged "quirks" in data translation between different voting machines. Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth Kathy Boockvar addressed discrepancies in Lancaster County, attributing them to how files were sent by the county. The hosts highlight that Texas rejected Dominion systems five times due to concerns that the hardware could be compromised too easily.

dominion voting systems· pennsylvania· lancaster county· data translation· kathy boockvar· texas

44:47 And, you know there's lists being made. But there is one other thing that has I think quite a lot of credibility namely for the people who are standing up and saying they believe something is going on with this and this revolves around the Dominion voting systems we have covered voting systems since the show started in 2008 election at the time it was Diebold and Mitt Romney's company, Diebold owns all or part of it. The Dominion system

45:27 And there is quite a lot of information on this. It's a Canadian system, first of all but they have been rejected in multiple states namely Texas rejected it five times if you want to see all the links in the show notes and mainly here, Democracy Suite 5.5-A system this is from Texas and corresponding hardware devices do not meet the standards for certification as prescribed by section 122.001 of the Texas Election Code because it could be compromised too easily Of course we in these days we just believe technology We trust it you know

46:09 The answers come out whenever you ask for it, but it does seem like there were some votes that changed midstream. And I'm not this is this is not necessarily new ballot showing up but actual votes and I think there was in 1 county. And this was a YouTube video, someone is showing it where the vote went up for the Democrat and if you look at the actual vote tally they were deducted from the Republican. Yeah it's very funny they took it off the air real fast this guy that was good he did frame by frame and he saw there I was That was pretty good It's a great video So now their irregularities are not disputed

46:50 This is, let me see this is Kathy. What is her name now? I think she's the secretary of the Commonwealth PA here we go. Yeah in Lancaster County on election night specifically it was showing results for mail-in ballots that was well above the amount returned and then the amount requested can you explain how that happened You know, I can't remember Lancaster County specifically. What I can tell you is that some of the counties the way so and Lancaster...I'm thinking it probably had to do..so they're one of i think the two counties that have hard voting systems Some of each voting system vendor has the way they translate with the data has worked slightly differently and as you know this dashboard That right there already has cause for concern for me The different ways they convert the data what?

47:45 Some of the, each voting system vendor has the way they translate with the data. Oh translate okay sure there's data translating going on ladies and gentlemen something was lost in translation! Has worked slightly differently and as you know this dashboard and even the website it's the first year that we broke out provisional ballots, mail-in ballots and in person. So some of the reporting if the county's files were not done perfectly it might merge to the categories that might put things in the wrong category so we've been working on all those quirks. Quirks! Quirks! I know for example New York was off quirk for a little while but that is now correct

48:28 to explain what was going on in Lancaster. Most of it has been the county, the way they sent us the files, the data was just not in the right place basically." Yeah, that's exactly what we're seeing. The data was not in the right place it might have been in the wrong column She has no idea what she's talking about there is since the iPhone There's been no technology reporting There's not a single technologist who was actually doing a good job of looking at how this works and when you hear the words quirk Translation

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Michigan Software Glitch and Antrim County Recount

In Antrim County, Michigan, a software "glitch" reportedly caused 6,000 Republican votes to be erroneously attributed to Democrats. The Republican chair noted that 47 other counties use the same software, leading to calls for a transparent examination of all results. The hosts criticize the use of the term "glitch" to describe errors in such a critical democratic process.

antrim county· michigan· software glitch· 6000 votes· republican party· tabulating software

49:06 miss-sorted, put in the wrong place basically on the dashboard. That's some grade A bullshit! But it gets worse because this also happened in Michigan here is the Republican chair If all this wasn't enough In Antrim County ballots were counted for Democrats that were meant for Republicans causing a 6,000 vote swing against our candidates The county clerk came forward and said tabulating software glitched. What? Glitch! Shut up about the glitch If you have computer problems, I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but a glitch ain't one. I got 99 glitches. It's just a glitch And put a goat see on there will ya

50:01 All right, there it is. That's my favorite pet peeve of the past decade — the term glitched and the term glitch. It's acceptable all of a sudden and we're going to allow something as important as election to be determined by whether we look at a glitch or not. 6 000 votes swing against our candidates The county clerk came forward and said tabulating software glitched and caused a miscalculation of the votes. Since then, we have now discovered that 47 counties use this same software in the same capacity. Antrim County had to hand count all of the ballots,

50:46 that use this software need to closely examine their results for similar discrepancies. The people of Michigan deserve a transparent and open process." So I don't really care too much about the, you know what ballots were sent in late? What state legislature did or did not change the rules that can all be fought in court. I have no experience understanding of that. I do know a little bit about computer systems And this is bullcrap. This removes all integrity revolving around this particular system or all the systems in general Now, they say that Texas rejected these systems but the one that I voted on looks a hell of a lot like a Dominion voting system where it spits out your

51:36 Your printed card and then you take the card over and you push it into the other machine, and then it looks like your ballot or whatever that piece of that long piece of paper is goes into the trash bin. That's obvious. It's obvious that that's where something can go wrong because you're optically reading. the votes from one machine to the other. It's like it's the worst, it's an air bridge but I have no idea if that is trustworthy so enter the second thing we talked about this concept of there being a system that the US government has called Hammer in which they can pretty much get into every network and snoop on anything they want too which I guess

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Sidney Powell on Hammer and Scorecard Surveillance Programs

Attorney Sidney Powell appeared on Fox Business with Lou Dobbs to allege that government surveillance programs known as "Hammer" and "Scorecard" were used to change vote totals. Powell claimed these tools, originally designed for foreign intelligence, were turned against U.S. citizens to manipulate the election by 3%. She urged the President's military intelligence officials to investigate these "access points" used by Democratic operatives.

sidney powell· hammer· scorecard· lou dobbs· fbi· mike flynn

52:15 would be possible, why not? And the secondary system called Scorecard which is a system that is intended to change votes in some or many or all voting systems and apparently we've used this against adversaries. Maybe Ukraine was an example This was presented by retired General of the Air Force McInerney and we played that clip on the last show as well, is he just an old coot retired general? Is there really something to it?" Well when Sidney Powell gets involved and starts talking this exact same language—and I believe she could know if there was such a system seeing us for the past several years she has represented General Mike Flynn who would know i presume

53:08 He was going to be the National Security Advisor. He knew a lot. He was head of DIA. He's head of Defense Intelligence Agency, he would know if these systems existed and Sidney Powell for her to stake her reputation on this that was very meaningful This is someone my wife likes and she's read her books And she is by many claims say she's one of the best legal minds that we have right now and she's young And here's what she said on the Lou Dobbs show, Fox Business News. No one watches it but we clipped it for you. Let's go back to Hammer and Scorecard are those the names that you just used for those programs? What's being done about it and how broadly were they used by vote counters in... Hold on a second let me make sure I got the right one here

54:01 This is the one I want. We just heard from John Solomon that the FBI indeed is being diligent, is involved and we all hope he's exactly right. Your thoughts first about the knowledge now that the Justice Department IS involved in this review of the election? I'm delighted to hear that. I think there are any number of things they need to investigate, including the likelihood that 3% of the vote total was changed in the pre-election voting ballots that were collected digitally by using the HAMMER program and a software program called Scorecard. That would have amounted to a massive change in the vote that would have gone across the country and explains a lot of what we're seeing, in addition they ran an algorithm to calculate votes they might need to come up with for Mr Biden in specific areas I think that explains what happened in Michigan where are the computer glitch resulted in a change about

55:01 5,500 in favor of President Trump just in one of 47 districts. All those districts need to be checked for that same quote software glitch end quote that would change the results in Michigan dramatically. The same thing is happening in other states we've had hundreds of thousands of ballots mysteriously appear solely for Mr Biden which is statistically impossible as a matter of mathematics It can all be documented. We are putting it into materials that we will file in federal court and we need to seek relief in multiple states, to enjoin the certification of any election results. So that's all being entered on Monday? This interests me because this is something that we can actually look at there's going to be some kind of forensics that can be done. It's not so much the legislative process or when votes count or they don't count

55:55 Just the fact we need to know if our systems work, that's what I'm concerned about. All the other stuff is noise. I mean, what are you gonna do about it? That's a very different election with all kinds of crazy new imposed rules hopefully that won't happen again and Many people may have seen this one clip but Sidney Powell went on and she doubled down on this Let's go back to to hammer and scorecard Are those the names that you just use stop the hammering for those programs. What's being done about it and how broadly were they used by vote counters in various states? I think they were very broadly used but not by the vote counters, they were used by the forces in the Democratic operatives that had access to these programs

56:49 through the government access points that they have and used it illegally to change votes in this country. It's got to be investigated probably by the president's most trusted military intelligence officials who can get into the system and see what was done, but we do have some evidence that is exactly what happened And they've used it against other entities in other countries. It's just been turned recently against our own citizens here to change election results, it is absolutely appalling that can be done and whether you call computer glitches or something else somebody has actually gone into the system and changed voting results

57:33 I don't understand why she doesn't take the easy way out and just say it must have been the Russians. That would've been the obvious one, that's what would've happened if the shoe was on the other foot. And she is filing and this is going to go to court as well. What can we do about it? Because in the Department of Justice... If there is evidence of that program, then why not just turn it over to the Justice Department and say let's ...and go to the courts and say this has got to stop now! Here is the way in which it was done. Well, we've been trying to get their attention and we're going to try even harder. And we'll have to put it in a federal lawsuit apparently and get as much of it out as we possibly can. We have some excellent witnesses on the issue but this is coup 5.0 Lou I mean there was no reason to think that the Democratic operatives who spent hundreds of millions of dollars

58:22 creating the Russia hoax, the Steele dossier taking us through a special counsel operation for two years trying an impeachment hoax. The apocalypse hoax, the obstruction hoax wouldn't go so far as to create every means of voter fraud they could come up with just steal this election that's exactly what happens the president must fight back now in every way, shape or form. We cannot let this republic be stolen by the Democratic operatives who want to destroy the Republic and make it a socialist country where they continue to line their pockets with these backdoor global deals like the Biden laptop from hell exposes

59:05 Oh, yes. So Sydney puts her neck on the line for that. That's... She puts her neck on the Fox Business Line! I mean you said at the beginning more people listen to The No Agenda Show than they listened to Fox Business. We basically doubled Fox's ratings this morning and we're very proud of that You know when she when she mentions I don't like I have some clips. I wanted to play this sure I did kind of jumped a gun here and play something else because what she mentioned there about well Maybe should you know the Justice Department should do something? I want to play something I have it whole series of these clips from the useful idiots Mm-hmm or as I haven't on here they use file audience yes, it's easy for me to look at defined it years later

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Matt Taibbi on Declassified Mueller Investigation Evidence

Journalist Matt Taibbi highlighted recently declassified portions of the Mueller investigation that revealed a lack of evidence regarding a conspiracy between WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign. The documents suggest that Mueller's office could not prove Julian Assange or Roger Stone had foreknowledge of hacking operations. Taibbi criticized the mainstream media for ignoring this story after years of promoting the conspiracy theory.

matt taibbi· mueller report· wikileaks· roger stone· declassification· julian assange

59:54 You said you well, I actually yeah, I haven't give a little hint here what I always intend to go back and correct the typos in the titles. Yeah and you never do? I don't know why that's okay because now now i'll actually remember use file ubiots Okay, I want you to play these are I consider two somewhat disgusting clips And it doesn't bring forth The Justice Department and the media, it just brings into play a bunch of things that don't make sense to me including the ability of Trump to declassify things. This is a story you've not heard anywhere and this is Matt Taibbi who uncovered it

1:00:44 It didn't uncover it, apparently. It was right there for anyone! It just happened recently but nobody cares... This is the clip Useful Idiots on Mueller MT1 I'm gonna bring this up it's a non-election related thing But I just felt like it had to be brought up because it just didn't make the news basically which was the declassification of a piece of the Mueller investigation Which um had some pretty significant headlines in it The main one being basically that they never had any evidence of a conspiracy involving Wikileaks. So the Mueller report says

1:01:26 With respect to WikiLeaks and Assange, this office determined the admissible evidence to be insufficient on both the agreement and knowledge prongs. Although a conspiracy is often inferred from the circumstances, the lack of visibility into the contents of these communications would hinder the Office's ability to prove that WikiLeaks was aware of and intended to join the criminal venture comprised of the GRU hackers. Similar problems of proof existed as to knowledge and absent sufficient evidence of such knowledge, the government could not prove that Wikileaks or Assange joined an ongoing hacking conspiracy intended to further or facilitate additional computer intrusions." And then they basically repeated the process

1:02:13 when they talked about Roger Stone, and they said, �Stone�s actions would thus be consistent with among other things a belief that he was aiding in the dissemination of the fruits of an already completed hacking operation perpetrated by a third party.� And just just so that people understand what all this means. It just means that Mueller investigated all this stuff and did not find any evidence that either WikiLeaks had any kind of foreknowledge of the hacking or that Stone had any kind of foreknowledge of anything past the point when the hacking was actually going on

1:03:03 Yeah, surprise surprise. He makes a further complaint in part two of this clip where he bitches about the media that there's not one mention of this story which is an important story because it comes out now It's an important story because you think of Stone being railroaded and CNN being there to film him How long has this been out there? How long has this been declassified? A couple days here play the second part so much to be frustrated about with all this but the that little story about the declassification of the Muller thing is so frustrating because It kept alive it kept this that little portion of the conspiracy theory kept This story alive for years and

1:03:54 And there was no acknowledgement of it whatsoever when it came out. It didn't make any news stories at all, so we're talking about it." And let me guess right after that his co-host said ain't other news today? His co host is Katie Halpern and she's just I have a bunch of clips for later...I mean she is just a Trump hater and I don't even know why she's on this show. I mean, Taibbi digs up a lot of good stuff and he is always befuddled by the fact that he doesn't seem to put two and two together regarding who is behind it all because he is like a progressive.

1:04:37 But this little story I thought was a good example. Why did they sit on it before declassifying? Why was it classified in the first place when they sent out the Mueller report, oh we can't let names out, so they kept a lot of stuff classified and now that they're putting it out there It's water under the bridge. But who is putting it out there? The president declassified it and where does this release come from, is that from... I don't know. Go to the Justice Department you can probably find it on there. I'll have to dig around and find out where I can see it. It was classified! The point is nobody gives a crap. I do have one just quickie anecdotal voter fraud clip which I thought was interesting

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Santa Cruz Service Dog Registered to Vote

A woman in Santa Cruz, California, reported that her service dog received a voter registration and was listed as having already voted in the 2020 election. The dog was reportedly registered as a human student at Cabrillo College. The hosts discuss the absurdity of the situation and the potential for administrative errors in voter rolls involving service animals.

santa cruz· service dog· voter registration· rfid· social security· california

1:05:26 And this is the woman whose dog voted in the election. This is a good story. Okay, so I'm Gemma as everybody on my group knows and I was just shopping in an unknown hardware store and I happened to run into the lovely... Was it Alyssa? Yeah, it's Alyssa. And I happened to tell her that my vote hasn't been counted What did you just tell me my dog voted in the 2020 election and how did you find this out? I got an email So now she has her microchip number as for Social Security. I went to the voting place You know looked under her name and everything

1:06:09 told them her social security number and she had already voted. Can you tell everybody a little bit about why your dog would be registered to vote? She is a service dog, correct? She's registered service dog through the Santa Cruz County Police Department and Cabrillo. And so now she's considered...she's been labeled a human. Yeah yeah. So her dog So her dog was, because her dog is a service dog and was listed as a student at Cabrillo College correct? Yeah. Her dog was listed as a human registered to vote so you called them right or you contacted them that your dog got a voter registration and they said what did they say? They said that she had already voted

1:06:55 Dogs are people too. Proof! We knew it was happening, they've finally taken over their voting now in our elections the dogs dog has already voted. It seems a little sketchy that a social security number would be the same as an RFID tag number or whatever but I wouldn't surprise me nothing surprises me. It's a good story it's a great story that would be that almost clip of the day worthy but You already nailed it too early. I know, blew my wad. Here's my few clips. I got Rudy...I got a little Giuliani clip here where he says pressure. He did a press conference on fraud and nobody covered this. Yeah no! He also was going a little nuts. It was 40 minutes and i had seen some clips where you say the media doesn't elect her

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Rudy Giuliani on Pennsylvania Lawsuits and Dead Voters

Rudy Giuliani held a press conference alleging that Republican inspectors were "uniformly kept out" of ballot counting areas in Philadelphia. He claimed the campaign has witnesses testifying to the backdating of ballots and evidence of "dead people voting." Giuliani argued that the leads Trump held on election night were mathematically impossible to overcome without fraudulent activity.

rudy giuliani· pennsylvania· philadelphia· absentee ballots· dead voters· backdating

1:07:47 And it was just, I couldn't find anything good. It is just a short minute. Rudy. Hold on a second. Yeah hold on, I'm just recalibrating Rudy here we go. Republican inspectors showed up they expected to inspect like they do for absentee ballots and they were uniformly kept out they got to see nothing And remember, Atlanta had to do the same thing you had to do. They had a catch Biden up because on election night he lost and he was down by a very good margin with only 85% to go something very similar happened in Michigan Wisconsin can't say Arizona but in almost every state where President Trump had a lead going into the end of election night

1:08:40 Some of the leads looking almost mathematically impossible to undo with the 5%, 10% 20% of vote. And almost all of those, this practice was followed and I'm right now trying to find do we get to see any ballots that were used for that purpose? If that's the case then we have a massive nationwide lawsuit so it could affect more than one state but right now the one that it definitely affects the state of Pennsylvania in a very, very big way. But it's not the only infirmity in this state. There are dead people voting no question about it we get any number of complaints that we have very serious problem with backdating ballots including four witnesses now who are testifying to that

1:09:29 Whether that becomes part of this lawsuit or something separate, that isn't developed as fast as this has. Now let's just look at this for a second... Well by the way I think it's appropriate for dead people to vote when Biden is on the ballot He's here all week So this is not like we didn't know this was gonna happen The president was talking about this he said mail-in ballots big fraud Months ago No four months not just months ago he's been saying it for months and month so In the movie that is filmed, Trump. There's only one way this can end that is positive for him and then that is that he comes out with this huge presentation and there are thousands of sealed indictments and everything all has to blow in one go because that's what's been promised And it you know That would be the ultimate end to the movie if if he's playing this in a in his typical

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Millennial Political Retribution and Trump Derangement Syndrome

A listener from Los Angeles shared experiences of social ostracization and breakups resulting from his support for Donald Trump. The discussion touches on the "Trump Accountability Project" and calls for a "Truth and Reconciliation Commission" for Trump supporters. The hosts argue that "Trump Derangement Syndrome" has led to a level of hysteria where political differences are viewed as moral failures.

trump derangement syndrome· millennials· los angeles· trump accountability project· social distancing· scott adams

1:10:32 reality television fashion, which he's very good at. And I still have the inkling in the back of my mind that says oh my it still could happen but it does not look that way! I mean I've been around long enough and looked out I've been waiting for...I've been waiting a long time for the thousands of sealed indictments and many other things But here is a true effect of what has taken place and there's work to do as Americans, particularly with our children. Not all but a lot of them this is a note from Patrick he's long time NOAA general listener He's been listening for 10 years since it was 16. He says I'm not 26 year old millennial I live in Los Angeles And he thought we might be interested in hearing about some recent experiences he's had over the last few weeks

1:11:20 in response to her comments about the millennial hysteria and virtue signaling going on with the election. Yes, we didn't get any of that obviously because Joe Biden imaged Biden and Kamala Harris won While this hysteria is nothing new to any of us, it's becoming more pervasive and concerning even with the election outcome. A few weeks ago my girlfriend of one year broke up with me because of my decision to vote for Trump I'm not going into why I voted for him for brevity but regardless my vote doesn't matter I live in California The reason she cut ties with me she claimed was because her pursuit as a lawyer and that our two belief systems simply can't morally coexist

1:12:02 In other words, dating a Trump supporter isn't cool sexy and God forbid her future attorney friends find out who she is dating. This is only one of three instances after the election this past Tuesday I confessed to another friend of mine that I voted for Trump this friend was also shocked! I told her it's okay to have healthy disagreements and that we should prioritize politics before friendship. I was met with the following response That's fine that you voted for Trump. I don't judge you for having a different opinion than me, but now that i know that we have fundamentally different opinions this isn't a difference of opinion this is systematically denying other human beings life and health and liberty. I can't overlook this and can't consider you a friend in the way I used to

1:12:46 This was a disappointment to producer Patrick, who says this friend has been his close friend for five years. Another response he says from a third friend... Patrick continues, I always knew there was this level of hysteria virtue signaling but i see this evolving into something bigger and more concerning. Retribution! Even on social media I'm seeing a lot of content from people my age questioning how society is planning on holding Trump supporters accountable insinuating that some sort of South African truth and reconciliation commission for the US be resurrected or be erected surrected while this seems far-fetched it's already happening

1:13:44 Look at the Trump accountability project if you haven't. Yes, we have I guess my overall point i'm trying to make is that even as Trump may be gone Trump derangement syndrome doesn't seem like it's departing anytime soon this is sad like it is but I think you've been spot on all along about children being over socialized and under-informed take it from me a millennial And he also donated to the show, he says. We appreciate that. Yeah that is a... The Trump derangement syndrome actually began long before Trump That's the funny thing about it and this has been a building thing Trump would just brought it to ahead fast! That's another thing he accomplished besides drawing attention to China and the border But he also made this appear because it was festering now its popped

1:14:34 something you might say. And so, yeah and then Scott Adams with his concept that they're gonna come to try to kill him because he supported Trump or even never really supported Trump. He just rationalized why Trump was winning and wins but still he's perceived as a Republican Eh, I don't know. He's probably right you should just find different friends You shouldn't find different friends there are people out there 70 million of them as a matter of fact that are friendly go to meet up It's not everyone is like this but it's it's a real concern and and I think that this is where we have If anything Joe Biden Kamala Harris win which will know eventually in January

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Kellyanne Conway on Republican Down-Ballot Success and Polling Failures

Kellyanne Conway appeared on Fox News to highlight that despite the presidential race, Republicans flipped several state legislatures and gained seats in the House. She criticized national polls for being "wishful thinking" rather than scientific measures, noting that they failed to predict the lack of a "blue wave." Conway argued that the Republican message resonated with women and minority candidates who won key races.

kellyanne conway· blue wave· polling· electoral college· nancy pelosi· kevin mccarthy

1:15:28 It's really a win for the new media, what we used to call new media and that's big tech. That's it! And it's going to be more censorship or de-platforming It's going to push a lot of interesting projects out to the edges. Oh yeah, skewing search results and make you think in certain ways... All kinds of stuff! So that is why it is very important for us to be around I have three clips from the chatterbox return to TV just talk about this a little bit and bitch and moan really not accomplished much but I kind of like the some of the points she made because they fall in line with my thinking about the election. This is Kellyanne Conway. Oh, another person who just reappeared all of a sudden okay? Who can't when she and you'll hear in...I think it's in the first clip when she gets on a roll talking she is one of the hardest people in the world to interrupt and you'll get to hear the moment

1:16:26 where the host tries to jump in and can't accomplish it, and she just keeps rolling along. But this is her talking about what's going on and why that's a rush to judgment or something fishy about it. She makes a lot of good points but I think the point she makes, the underlying point that she actually makes is I should have been the campaign manager again this year. I don't know why I wasn't But I wasn't and they kind of fucked it up here and there, but here's what she has to say. Three years! They spent three years investigating the president impeaching the president we can't wait three hours three days three weeks To get a result in our great sturdy democracy as to whom the next president will be What is the rush all of a sudden? I think the rush is there was no blue wave There was no early night There was no Democratic progressive realignment

1:17:20 the Democratic down-ballot disasters carried all the way to the state legislatures as well. The Democrats did not flip a single state legislature, and in fact, the Republicans flipped the House and Senate for example in a place like New Hampshire where they have every Republican governor so that's solid now. They did similar thing in Montana held on to the governorship. The governor there lost the senate race we held that and of course the Democratic governor, and now we have the legislature as well. So you know the seven races that were either- the seven races that flipped at our brand new Republican pickups? As Leader McCarthy noted, as I tweeted yesterday's others are saying those were all carried by a woman in minority candidate and or a veteran. And

1:18:05 That means the candidate recruitment the Republicans were doing, their message. That really carried them forward and nobody was paying attention to that instead all these phony national polls were shoved down our throats Biden is up by 10, Biden's up by 12, Biden is up by 15 Do you know when I took over as campaign manager in 2016 we did zero let me repeat the number zero national polls from that point forward they're not relevant They tell you trends but don't dig into the electoral college map I can tell you whether you can or can't win is outdated. That's why Republicans lost the presidential races for years. Electoral college is how you do or don't win. She's unbelievable. Yeah, she's always been this way. Does she talk about her daughter? How her daughter will put the boot on her Nazi face

1:18:54 Her daughter is very, very ill. Screwed up and creepy. Okay let her continue on with this tirade. This is pretty good I said to your Chris Wallace on January 29th 2017 I was on his Fox News Sunday show we'd only been here less than 10 days and he asked me a question about it. He said Chris not a single person has lost his or her job who was chronically wrong about this election in 2016 I predict it's not going to happen again after 2020. Nobody cares and nobody wants to cure this problem. If this were a real business, the C-suite would be cleaned out, the shareholders would revolt and consumers would vote with their feet they'd go elsewhere

1:19:34 But these polls weren't scientific evidence, evidentiary measures of what was going to happen. They're wishful thinking and here's one thing I worked on...I was a pollster for decades and here is..I used to give paid speeches about polls too and advise clients One thing we all have to remember is, it's becoming increasingly difficult to sample enough people in each cohort by race, by gender, by age, by geography, by party affiliation. And you have to wait W-A-I-T to finish a poll over series of days for it to be accurate, but what's happening is they're weighting W-E-I-G-H-T their results. So they're getting a small number responses in an individual cohort and extrapolating that." You know what the media interestingly is really not discussing is how they've kind have been given this authority

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Global Election Efficiency and Democratic Fundraising Losses

Glenn Greenwald noted that countries like Brazil and those in Eastern Europe are able to count 100% of their votes by midnight on election day. The hosts contrast this with the U.S. system while also noting the massive failure of Democratic fundraising; candidates like Jamie Harrison and Amy McGrath lost by double digits despite spending nearly $200 million combined.

glenn greenwald· brazil· lindsey graham· mitch mcconnell· jamie harrison· amy mcgrath

1:20:28 to work with pollsters, that's who they work with. They own a lot of the polls now Yeah but they have been granted this authority by the public to call elections and they're not giving that back and it's not being discussed except here It's really not being discussed This is the core issue And of course we got lazy Because like, you know it's like we want it to be done by 1130. You know I wanna go out have a drink and then we'll go back to bed well before you bitch about that I Don't have the clip but I do have a bunch of more these clips from the useful idiots because they grant grenn greenwald Was on and he talked about how Eastern Eastern Europe? Europe Europe in particular and even in Brazil

1:21:21 He says they're set up so they get their votes in and by midnight, they have the results 100% done. How come the United States can't do this? Well I'm sure we have a different country, different system We absolutely could do this...I'm still in favor of finger-in-the-ink pot! I've always liked that Stick your finger in the inkpot you voted You're done. You can't vote anymore That would be good I think it's easy for people to say, oh we can't even get elections done. Yeah... We've given that process away! That needs to be taken back and really the bottom line is where are you going to get your information from? If you're watching something or listening to something and an ad comes on stop that is going to be uh that will never be completely truthful

1:22:18 Advertising is censorship. People who have advertising in their programming are at minimum self-censoring, at minimum! Well yes of course they are. They have to. So the question again... upset the advertiser for God's sake. The last clip of her Where is the consequence? They are so chronically wrong. There were people on TV last night who predicted a blue wave, an early night, a rebuke of the Trump agenda. The Trump agenda won up and down the ballot! We're holding the Senate we picked up in the House, the state legislatures Pelosi's got a big problem now because this squad that doesn't do squat except be famous for being famous... They're gonna make a run at her

1:23:04 her. They did last time, so they're definitely going to make a run at her because all we hear about is she's powerful look at her mask it matches her dress again she didn't do anything to build her coalition her majority but leader McCarthy and the Trump agenda did and it was a real rebuke I also just want to read you this it's on my Twitter thing but let me just quickly. It's Jeff Carline Jamie Harrison African-American man they spent 109 million dollars Lindsey Graham beat him Amy Amy McGrath, $90 million to lose by Mitch McConnell by big double digits. Sarah Gideon the aforementioned Maine she lost to Susan Collins but not before 69.5 million was spent Mary Hager in Texas lost to John Cornyn 24 million spent those are female candidates minority candidates that Democrats recruit to try to unseat Republican candidates they lost every single time

1:23:54 Wow. By the way, she goes on for another 10 minutes. Oh I'm sure she does and it's like what are you talking about? Yeah we get it We get it Sure is fine Do you think that... The Democrats had like a little celebratory thing, you know and Nancy and Chuck And everybody come that came to hang out with Joe and Kamala. You think that might have happened? I don't think so because you know if you get a super spreader event bad if you get a super spreader event They'll all go they'll all be taken out Super spreader by the way is is a word now Oh Yes, oh yes It's a word according to our favorite

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Dana Brunetti and Hollywood Producer Credits

Hollywood producer Dana Brunetti sent a note to the show clarifying his credits, which include "The Social Network," "Captain Phillips," and "House of Cards." He joked that "Fifty Shades of Grey" pays the bills but noted his pride in his award-winning work. The hosts discuss the legitimacy of No Agenda executive producer titles compared to traditional Hollywood credits.

dana brunetti· house of cards· social network· 50 shades of grey· captain phillips· producer

1:53:08 Dana Bernetti, official Hollywood producer sent me a note he wanted to make mention that he also produced other gems such as the social network. You know, he doesn't want to be just known by 50 Shades of Grey, 50 Shades of Greyer and the greatest of all Fifty Shades. Although I do think that paid for his rents so these titles are real they're the real deal there on IMDB you can put them there you can put him in your LinkedIn and your CV, your resume executive producer... Yes? I was gonna say those three horrible films, the grey films

1:53:45 They brought in over 1.5 billion and I think he had points Yes, he had points on the gray Yeah, yeah. He had points on the gray. I know however he did not actually I should probably read his his His note to you because it was note to me because he didn't mention new and I think I should pass that along Hold on a second It's in my DMS who slide I got Hollywood producers sliding into my DMC we go Hey, I also produced award winners like the social network and Captain Phillips

1:54:22 House of Cards is more recent and 80 Shades of Grey pays the bills. And tell John I have more of a southern accent since I grew up in Southwest Virginia, his bit part just went out the window! And by the way he says it looks like the rain stick may have worked as a chance of rain this weekend and uh... We're not callous with the stick Don't be commanding us what we do with our sticks, Dana. Anyway back to our producers for this show you are now executive and associate executive producer for episode 1293 of the best podcast in the universe and we appreciate that in particular people who had the audacity to still pick up on the donation-the devil donation level a non wise decision in my mind by Mr. Dvorak but okay he wants Beelzebub to come into our segment that's fine

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CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

CBS "Tuning Out the News" and Millennial Comedy

The hosts review clips from the CBS All Access show "Tuning Out the News," produced by Stephen Colbert. They describe the animated news satire as "unfunny" and "insulting to intelligence," focusing primarily on "Trump hate." The discussion suggests that the show reflects the worldview of "over-socialized and under-educated" millennials who now populate major media networks.

cbs· stephen colbert· tuning out the news· trump hate· millennials· comedy

1:56:20 Now even though... I'm sorry? I got a little thing, it's a little side joke here that needs to be played. We like side jokes! You know it's like what you everyone wants the truth needs to come out. Yes with the TV network sometimes the truth needs to come up but it comes out it doesn't come out as like a flub it comes out of something purposeful and CBS News I can't say that they're behind this, but if you go to CBS... You know CBS has this extra little channel where they play weird stuff. Mm-hmm You have to pay for it is five bucks a month or something like that What's the name of this channel? CBS Plus I think God how original really! They call themselves CBS Plus We need no agenda PUS

1:57:09 Plus. Loose. No agenda. We call it loose. In your case, it could be called no agenda puss. Man! Stop for a second. I'm sorry and sorry. Stop the show! I apologize in advance. This is actually a psychological condition we need to discuss one time I said pus. You were so outraged by it, so disgusted by the thought of a pimple popping and the pus oozing out that you excoriated me for it! I immediately stopped since then! He said eww... I didn't mean to excoriate him. You have brought this up three- four times now!! This is a psychological condition! Do you need an intervention? I don't know..I needed to get my head examined Okay let's go with this So CBS

1:57:52 Has brought, they brought some comics I can't even read from a script. And it's just stilted! It's just the worst and its show that they put on this five minute little show they put on this separate network called Tuning Out The News Wait wait wait isn't this Colbert thing? I think Colbert is the producer of this That wouldn't surprise me Yeah I think he's the producer of it Well, it brings out the real feelings of the network the way I see it. And I want to play four short clips from it just to show you what kind of crap they push out there It's just Trump hate! Trump hate to the max! And unfortunately this clip series starts with number three by the way. It's a cartoon like animated No Agenda?

1:58:41 It's not as good as animated no agenda. Hello, obviously but it's like it's a sad knockoff No, because animated no agenda is derivative its derives from the real show. Ah gotcha This is original content Oh, it's like a table read with pictures be a table read of crap. So let's start and did you get an idea what this is like by starting over? The clip three is number, the first clip. Voters appear extremely motivated to have a president not working around the clock to kill them with nine days before election day more people already have cast ballots in this year's presidential election than voted early or absentee in the 2016 race. Republicans must be disappointed that when you mismanage your country so badly that there's nothing to do people feel

1:59:26 People fill that free time just by waiting around to vote. Yeah, for sure now John where are we in this race besides wondering if a Just God would let Trump win re-election? Oh it sounds like a reality show Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like. So let's... so that was just Trumps killing us as a mismanaged operation and this is all the theme of the whole thing I find the whole thing offensive by the way This is CBS tuning out to news The next one clip four And like jumping off a bridge Now President 3 stops in the deliverance corridor of Pennsylvania with his inspiring message to the Koban stricken masses I'm tired of hearing about it

2:00:01 it. Britain in someone's lungs. I just don't agree with President Trump that after November 4th, even if he loses we're not going to hear about COVID or it's the story of our times Oh man this is unfunny It's...I don't understand the point of tuning out the news and then is it supposed to be uh? Well it's supposed to be hilarious and I think amongst the coal bears of the world they just think this is great

2:00:47 Interesting. Without their audience, they get no clue so let's play clip five Let me just say this he is killing Americans in so many fresh and innovative ways I think it is within his rights to criticize the media for getting stuck on this one issue I mean haven't we had enough talking about this disease that has changed life as we know it people are completely ignoring the biggest story Halloween stores are refusing to carry my homemade costume called tow truck guys toothless buddy also We all know who is responsible for this virus. Saddam Hussein and his sons, Uday and Qusay. And finally Jared Kushner reassured the Republican base that the president believes black people are a monolith This is um I believe that this uh is put together by people who actually see the world that way and that they think that's all

2:01:37 I guess Republicans and Trump talk about undo. They're really just rerunning Fox News Channel, in their minds and just spitting it back out. Hey! It's a TV channel people. It's not real? That is crazy. Here we go with the last one. Oh, misfire sorry. Five... six yes got it Well, you know I would say especially people whether they're white or black like being condescended to by somebody that inherited wealth as Jared Kushner did. You know as a black woman this is a really insulting implication and it will absolutely make me think twice about my secret vote for Trump before i absolutely still go through with it Wow that's really brave of you to say. Wow yeah that's kind of pathetic

2:02:28 I mean it doesn't, it breaks every rule of comedy. Eh? Not funny! It's not funny, it breaks the whole rule of comedy. There is something that I heard in this other clip though that reminded me of something. Let me see if its... This female voice. Now listen coronavirus needs to mix up its programming John, I for one would like to see a guest appearance by Queen Kaya. Britain in someone's lungs. Oh there is no winning! We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh alot now everyone hug and share a secret Same woman! It almost amazes me saying voice over She is the tell-a-secret lady oh man

2:03:10 So what's your conclusion here on this? That this is, besides it being bad television. I found it to be insulting to anyone's intelligence but at CBS... This is CBS really- This is what they really think! The place has been populated by these millennials and others that have this funny attitude about things They're over socialized and under educated and probably college graduates Yeah Well, also the distinct feeling I get from people who probably watch this or think it's funny. They really... First stop right there with that thought! Who do you know personally that would watch this and think it's funny? Umm..I think I can point to a few yeah that find that hilarious Not in the traditional way but just and I think even now especially

2:04:07 That's what those idiots... This is so funny. You're telling you it's just like them, haha! I think so? I think that's there yeah maybe There's a Go ahead well what do you want to say nothing i was just saying It was like a uh I can't I just why don't you ask Jay or JC Ask them I'm sure they know people who would Who think this Is hilarious and watch it I'm almost of the opinion that

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Russia's Social Monitoring App and COVID-19 Restrictions

A report from Moscow details Russia's strict COVID-19 quarantine measures, which require infected individuals to install a "Social Monitoring" app. Users must take a selfie every four hours to prove they are at their place of residence; failure to do so results in a 4,000 ruble fine. The hosts compare these tracking measures to potential future developments in Western countries.

russia· moscow· social monitoring app· quarantine· selfie· rubles

2:04:44 It's like pointing the ball, it's like a pitcher who they say points the ball instead of throws it. You think you're doing the right thing with this kind of material but I don't even think that lefties think this is funny. But okay we'll drop it and we're done I do have some COVID updates. The worst pandemic ever is still killing us everywhere and we're all going to die. Especially in Austin, I feel so sorry for you living there! We have no lockdowns, no nothing but around the world yeah things are different. I got a report from one of our... from Dobroslav from Moscow with a little rundown and we don't hear much about that what the

2:05:30 what the restrictions are in Russia, and so he gave us a quick little rundown. Private clinics not allowed to conduct COVID tests. Very interesting! Private laboratories are allowed to do it this was not the case in April and appears to have been changed according to certain podcasts So I guess they maybe they saw a problem some discrepancy in the test any tests must be submitted to the Rospo Trembla Dabznor, a central government agency roughly equivalent to the US FDA not the CDC the FDA. Now here it comes if you do test positive you must must must install a COVID tracking app not tracing tracking app

2:06:16 and quarantine. The app is quite literally called, and he has a whole bunch of Russian characters which I guess the app translates to social monitoring it is available in App Store so we have to go look at that the quarantine is for two weeks starts from the time the test is submitted to the central agency once you are quarantined you must open the app every four hours and take a selfie What? Yes! And you're... Eve, what about when you're sleeping. Well I don't know about that he doesn't give me any information and if your phone's GPS shows us somewhere other than your place of residence you'll be fined four thousand rubles approximately fifty dollars or about a quarter of your monthly salary for anywhere that isn't Moscow

2:07:10 If you're unwilling to install the app, 4,000 rubles. If you're unable to install the app, 4000 ruble fine! Things going well there in Russia that's we got that's what we got to look forward to I guess although i feel Liverpool is taking it to a next level and that's next logical level This is from the Broadgreen International School. It's a technology college, they probably follow the baccalaureate system in the United Kingdom this international school sent out a note to parents as you are aware Liverpool is in tier 3 COVID-19 safeguarding arrangements whatever that means it sounds impressive

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

British Army COVID-19 Testing in Liverpool Schools

Broadgreen International School in Liverpool announced that the British Army would be deployed to test all students and staff for COVID-19 using a "lateral flow" system. Each individual is identified with a unique barcode for tracking results. The hosts express concern over the militarization of public health testing and the use of barcodes for personal identification.

liverpool· british army· broadgreen international school· lateral flow· barcodes· testing

2:07:54 As part of this process, central government has identified Liverpool to pilot a new COVID-19 testing system. This is encouraging! This is being called the lateral flow system. How about that? Huh? Lateral flow which is an aeronautical term that we talked about not too long ago with auto aviation I don't know why they'd call that, why they bring that in for testing. But anyway... It wasn't lateral it wasn't the word? No it's not lateral flow? No it was uh..I can't remember what is- What is lateral flow then? What is the flow behind? Sites across the city are due to be positioned across the city in order to carry out testing. I am pleased to inform you that we at Broadgreen International School are in the privileged position of being one of the first- Laminar! Laminar! You're right laminar flow.

2:08:45 I am pleased to inform you that we at Broadgreen International School are in the privileged position of being one of the first schools within the city to have testing brought to our site and here it comes! This is the best, I'm so happy. I have met this afternoon with the representatives of the British Army who will be in our school next week to COVID-19 test all our students and staff. Each child and adult will be identified with a unique barcode, to ensure personal identification of tests and subsequent results." Is it a tattoo? Yes! It's on your forehead you get a barcode. I love that they are just putting it out in the open That is excellent

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

CDC Guidance Changes on Post-Recovery Viral Shedding

The CDC updated its website to state that recovered COVID-19 patients may have low levels of the virus in their bodies for up to three months without being infectious. This change implies that retesting within 90 days may yield "false" positives. The hosts suggest this adjustment is a strategic move to "end the pandemic" just as the Biden-Harris administration takes office.

cdc· pcr test· viral shedding· quarantine· asymptomatic· kamala harris

2:09:25 I'm looking forward to my tattoo. Beautiful, appreciate that! Iowa State will be randomly testing which actually should say that there's the CDC did something a little sneaky as the CDC does they replace some text on their testing information website. What the text previously said was, data to date show that a person who has had and recovered from COVID-19 may have low levels of virus in their bodies for up to three months after diagnosis

2:10:08 This means that if the person who has recovered from COVID-19 is retested within three months of initial infection, they may continue to have a positive test result even though they are not spreading COVID-19. Which is not really discussed either but it has been replaced With the following, anyone who has had close contact with someone with COVID-19 and who meets the following criteria no longer needs to stay at home if you have had COVID-19 illness within the previous three months or if you're recovered and you remain without COVID-19 symptoms.

2:10:44 So here's the discrepancy in where we are in the world. People are being told you have to, if you test positive then you have to quarantine for two weeks and then have at least 2 negative tests Well this is not going to happen because people can continue to shed virus And what they're saying here is that PCR process is bullcrap but their not coming out and saying it so you cant even have a test within 3 months of initial infection You can't even really take a test if you're asymptomatic because that could be from months ago. And they're kind of saying it here, but will that make any difference? This is how they stopped the pandemic. Exactly! Why do you think it was just changed?

2:11:32 This will be when President Kamala, I'm sorry. President Biden and Vice-President Kamala get into office they will reevaluate and decide... They're coming with some reason that this is everything's improved because they got elected. President Kamala, iIm sorry president Biden and vice president Kamala yeah they'll just make the statement that this is the new test is going to be this way and we boom! The thing is over completely Because it can be done that way or they can just let it stretch out for some other reason. I think it will stretch out, maybe increase the panic a little bit over the course of the next few weeks so people want Kamala and Joe even more but yes these numbers are being reported which are cases, cases equal positive results for finding some fraction of a virus shed or not

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

Dave Jones Coronavirus Recovery and Mask Efficacy

Dave Jones, creator of the Freedom Controller, shared his experience recovering from a case of COVID-19. Despite his wife being a strict mask-wearer and teacher, Jones contracted the virus and managed his 102-degree fever by alternating Tylenol and Advil. He concluded that his strict adherence to mask-wearing did not prevent the infection, calling the efficacy of masks "bullcrap."

dave jones· freedom controller· coronavirus· fever· masks· tylenol

2:12:27 with a PCR process, you can totally ratchet it up or down. So we'll see which way they go all we have to remember is they're just ratcheting and by the way my buddy Dave Jones, you know Dave built the Freedom Controller? Yeah, Dave Jones he got coronavirus like sick and when? I think Tuesday Monday or Tuesday And so he's over it. I mean, he's still quarantining but... He actually said that if he had managed his fever better and he had about 102, he said that it would have been no more than a mild flu and that was because

2:13:13 The recommendation was Tylenol every eight hours, which just didn't work for him. And then when he went to Tylenol every eight hours but alternated every eight hours with Advil he said the fever broke came down and it was okay but not horrible. But the main takeaway His wife is a teacher. She's been very strict about mask wearing, and I know Dave he has worn a mask everywhere he could! No exceptions and he says well that's obviously bullcrap because somehow we got it not from touching people And of course his wife didn't get it so anyway We talked...I mentioned the minx being culled

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Denmark Mink Cull and COVID-19 Mutations

Denmark ordered the culling of its entire mink population—approximately 17 million animals—after discovering a mutated strain of COVID-19 called "Cluster 5" that can jump to humans. Scientists also reported that a lipopeptide nasal spray has successfully prevented infection in ferrets. The hosts discuss the economic impact on the fur industry and the potential for similar culls of domestic pets.

denmark· mink· cluster 5· mutation· ferrets· nasal spray

2:14:02 Yes, the minks. Well now I'm getting stories everywhere that the minks are being bring obliterated from planet Earth Just to protect them well article from Was it today? Let me see when this came out in The New York Times When did this come out another fifth so this came out a couple days ago the the mink of course is very closely related to the ferret and And here's the story, no one really talked about it. Nasal spray prevents COVID infection in ferrets study finds and this is not any kind of magical concoction but it does work according to these scientists who've put it together almost exactly like a vaccine the spray attacks the virus directly It contains lipopeptide A cholesterol particle linked to a chain of amino acids

2:15:06 this particular lipopeptide exactly matches a stretch of amino acids in the spike protein of the virus which the pathogen uses to attach to human airway or lung cell. So I'm just wondering, you know now that people are all freaked out about these... about the mink if uh.. You know it's like they didn't want anyone to figure out that we could actually save them ink because they're like ferrets yeah! I don't put anything past these people But Kress, our producer from Denmark says by the 16th of November in Denmark all mink are to be put down due to a mutation. The Danish CDC, Statens Serums Institut

2:15:51 They say they have found at least five mutations of the COVID-19 virus. They call it cluster 5 and they say it jumps from mink to people! I'm telling you John, there's some secret here There is something going on with this mink so they're stepping up the test by threefold for everybody and they have to cull all of the mink in all of Denmark By the 16th but well here's what's interesting He's heard people saying that hey First, they come for the ferrets but they may be coming for our pets next. And I like this! I like this yes, I like it a lot. Dogs are people too! They're coming for your dogs! They're gonna cull your dogs!! Well this makes my wife's investment in mink coats... Worth it? Well you know what Mimi has been doing probably 15 years and thinks she got maybe 5 or 6 of these coats

2:16:53 And then she does research on them after she gets them. Because of the West Coast and it's, oh fur thing... You can get a mink coat on Craigslist that happened to be owned by some grandma She bought it in the 30s or 40s from some furry or New York City and you can get him for like 100 bucks Because you don't want to own one. And so she's been buying a bunch of these when she sees them, but she doesn't buy every one but she bought a number of them and for like $100 bucks then we do a little research afterwards and the original price through the coat was like eight grand in 1930. Oh yeah! In 1930 it was 8 grand? Holy crap that might as well have been 80 thousand if not more

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New York State Bar Association Vaccine Recommendation

The New York State Bar Association passed a resolution urging the state to consider mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, even for those with religious or philosophical objections. The hosts debate the legal precedent for such a move, referencing historical smallpox cases and questioning Alan Dershowitz's assertion that the government has the authority to "jab a needle in your arm."

new york state bar association· mandatory vaccine· alan dershowitz· smallpox· case law

2:17:42 So now these coats will be more valuable unless they can maintain this hatred of dead animal fur. But people out there on the lookout, you should go check this out in certain parts of the country are going to get these very expensive coats for next to nothing on Craigslist your tip of the day. That's a very good tip especially now with with this situation supply demand people figure it out And the last thing I think i have on the COVIDs, do we have anything else here? No. I think that's all I need is The New York State Bar has passed the mandatory COVID-19 vaccination recommendation which is not a law Mary Beth Morrissey chair of the bar's association health law sections task force

2:18:42 which is a fancy name for drinking club for lawyers, said in a statement after the vote on Saturday. The New York State Bar Association has therefore passed a resolution urging the state to consider making it mandatory for all New Yorkers to undergo COVID-19 vaccination when the vaccine becomes available, even if people object to it for religious, philosophical or personal reasons. Yay! Let's go to New York By the way, I believe that to be bullcrap. We've talked about this before—this authority and I disagree with Alan Dershowitz the constitutional lawyer he says that it's well established that these states—that the government of America can jab a needle in your arm Well, the proof of that case and based on case law is a little different It was a father and his son And they were vaccinated Now we're talking

2:19:46 late 1800s I think, or turn of the century. And they both got infected with...I wonder what that was at the time? Whatever, pox something even though they had been vaccinated, so they refused the second time around. And the lawsuit of the case that was won by the state was that the state could sue them, could fine them for not taking the mandatory vaccine. Not that they could plunge the needle into their arm now doesn't mean that you can twist that and say because they can find you, they might know they can jab a needle in your arm

2:20:24 But I think that case is misrepresented. And, you know... but it doesn't matter when a bunch of lawyers say hey it's fact then most people don't bother to question it. There's a little twist to it smallpox especially during that era was not a shot Well I said okay So it's not the same as jabbing and needle in your arm I'd have to go back and look at what case that was, John. I know i have the information but...I'll look into it because we covered this and I have a couple of clips. Yeah we should continue to keep an eye on it because this is- I'll bring it back! I mean I convinced myself when we discussed it the first time that's for sure. You've convinced yourself again you've convinced yourself a few times now uh I do want to get to my clip from Useful Idiots and Glenn Greenwald even though you may object to some of the quality of the clip

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Glenn Greenwald on Media Profitability and Partisanship

Glenn Greenwald discussed the "extraordinary success" of partisan media outlets like The New York Times, which now has over 7 million digital subscribers. He argued that these institutions are no longer objective but instead provide "liberal ideological affirmation" to a specific demographic. Greenwald noted that Trump "single-handedly saved" jobs at MSNBC by providing constant content for their "anti-Trump agitprop."

glenn greenwald· the intercept· new york times· msnbc· digital subscribers· propaganda

2:21:18 Maybe because Glenn Greenwald's coming in from Brazil. Well, no Glenn Greenwald needs help He needs help with a better setup I got that Shure 55 it's a piece of crap It's not for him and you know it's not its breathy. It's No, it sounds a little thin. It's not a great microphone and he has no technique This is his main problem though. He's good. Yes, no technique So, Glenn happy to help you come to the podfather. I'll take you under my wing." Well so before we play these clips i got four of them or three of them...I do have a fourth clip which is just to point out that it's something that there's a preface to the whole thing Katie Halpern and the woman that is co-hosting this show with Taibbi

2:22:08 is just a Trump hater and she, they discuss the scam of the elections. And I mean, because Tayabi's very skeptical about a lot of stuff as well as Greenwald and they talk about their... They both think that Russian hoax was a hoax and everything was a hoax in this. She doesn't buy any of it but she still thinks that Russians interfered in. So I hear this little clip here and this really galled me. This is The Useful Idiots Katie clip. If Donald Trump were actually like a Klansman or, you know, a burgeoning Hitler the way he's been presented in the news media for the last four years people would be dancing in the streets right now and every single editorial would be about boy we really dodged a bullet and yet most of the reaction is wow what a disappointing down ballot

2:22:55 performance by the Democrats. It's just, I don't think anybody really believed that he was Hitler or a real white supremacist. I just don't buy that. Well, but I mean... I think he pays lip service when he said there are good people on both sides of the College Bill. Did thou tell me someone countered that? Matt or Glenn Greenwald? No! They probably didn't did they? Neither one of them countered her with the, with her concept of the very fine people. And then to make it worse that they didn't say anything even though they were kind of like holding their you know, you can see maybe wanted to but they didn't have the guts to do it. She said it again later in this show verifying people

2:23:45 And it was like, you know brother these... Well here's the problem. I do want to say something about Useful Idiots. I believe that they the show is now has gone from Rolling Stone To iHeartRadio so They're compromised now because now there's real money There's real ads that have to run As on the podcast so I'm afraid that this will no longer be a useful program to listen to other than for our own personal enjoyment. I don't know how enjoyable it is, but here's Grenn Greenwald on the show and he makes some good points This is this is a series of clips which is

2:24:30 what the foundation of our show is all about, which is that the mainstream media is corrupt and useless. And if it wasn't for that we probably wouldn't be doing this show but Greenwald has really got a lot of grudges and he's irked about everything in effect and he doesn't really want to admit that he's been totally marginalized and taken for granted and pushed aside kicked to the curb And he never, of course mentions that Amy Goodman threw him under the bus. But here we go and this is some good stuff here we can listen to. Well you know all I know is anecdotally from what I hear from other reporters but be interested to hear how you characterize it? Well it's interesting because at the very same time that the media is having one debacle after the next to their credibility

2:25:13 from any reasonable perspective, like what we just discussed in terms of the expectations that they created about an easy Biden victory. About a Democratic takeover of the Senate. About how non-white voters view the world preceded by the debacle over Russiagate and so many other examples, many of which we've talked about on this show before and others. On one hand you have that going on but then on the other hand you have this extraordinary success that these media outlets who are leading the way perpetrating these frauds are experiencing. Just today I read an article that the New York Times for the first time broke 7 million digital subscribers

2:25:49 and now officially make more money from digital subscribers than the paper subscribers, which have always been the foundation of their newspaper. The New York Times is now an incredibly profitable institution not despite these failures but because of them because they're talking only to people who want to be fed Democratic Party propaganda and liberal ideological affirmation. MSNBC, if you go and look at their ratings in 2015 and 2016 almost every single one of their hosts was on the verge of being fired because nobody was watching their shitty dumb shows And now because of Trump he's single-handedly saved almost all of their jobs when you go across the spectrum to like blogs and media outlets I mean i know At The Intercept

2:26:38 You know, we had one reporter whose only purpose in life was just to write up whatever like anti-Trump agitprop materialized on Twitter. And it became one of the most read parts of what The Intercept did even though it was incredibly superficial and shallow. It was literally just summarizing whatever that Trump lied in this tweet or he exaggerated, whatever people in the MSNBC world were hysterical about, but they would generate clicks I'm noticing something different with Glenn. Yeah, he's up-talking more than he used to He has a little bit of a girl in him sometimes You didn't notice that? Maybe we'll have to listen the next clip You left me a wide open softball

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The Polarization Model of Modern Journalism

The discussion continues on the "Hate Inc." model of journalism, where profitability is driven by elevating fear and hatred of the "other." Greenwald and Taibbi are cited as examples of journalists moving to independent platforms like Substack to avoid the "pathology" of modern newsrooms. The hosts argue that editors are now terrified of being labeled by millennial employees, leading to widespread self-censorship.

glenn greenwald· matt taibbi· polarization· substack· censorship· journalism

2:27:29 with a little bit of a girl in him that I refuse to touch. I'm just mentioning this to people out there always expecting a wisecrack from me, yeah no i am not touching it. No unlike Joe now let's uh he starts to bring up some points that I think are personally interesting and that is that and the next clip you'll see if gets better is that when Trump is gone these guys are they got nothing nothing to talk about exactly MSNBC in particular, I don't know what they're gonna do. This is why always say it's good for the show because we'll have a lot more to talk about Well yes Yes that part was true okay let's go on cuz he gets there some Some tidbits here which were playing to some of my thinking this part too Trump salvaged this industry and

2:28:22 And I think one of the most significant data points that we've gotten in the last three or four months about this was a Pew poll that asked, I think thousands if not tens of thousands of news consumers which is your primary news source. What is the source you look to first before all others? And of course, like people who said MSNBC have them 95% were Democrats as you would expect and people who said Fox. It was like 93% Republican so I'm SMB sees even more partisan than than box but for NPR it was a 93% said Democrats and the most amazing

2:29:00 87. Yeah, and the most amazing one was The New York Times 91% of the people who identify The New York Times as the primary source of news are now Democrats like it's always lean kind of liberal right? It's been in the heart of New York forever. Its you know kind of ethos has been cosmopolitan speaking to people in big cities so its never been you know say continent with like even evangelicalism or rural conservatism but at least It was kind of a trusted paper in the middle. That's gone, it's completely a partisan outlet now and is making more money than it ever made before and of course your book Hate Inc., in my view tells this story as better as well as in fact better than any other which

2:29:40 The new model of media profitability in a world where media outlets are struggling for profitability is to just be as polarizing as possible, elevate fear and hate levels as high as you can about whoever the enemy or the villain or the other is. and then just feed people, feed into that hatred because hatred and fear are very powerful motivating emotions to make you keep waking up and running to see what's going on. What's endangering you? What's threatening you? No one at the New York Times wanted to hear from a Trump supporter. Wait a minute is he just now figuring this out? He's just now figuring out that's the model oh my Glenn! Well he was mostly concerned about

2:30:22 Pew study, I think this is what they're really talking about which is fairly recent. That indicates that if you read the New York Times you're probably a Democrat because Republicans don't read it but what it says to me is that because we have this skew political skew is that in the olden days and people accept... In fact its predates old timers but in the 1800's in particular The newspapers used to be biased. They used to be called the press Democrat, and that was the Democrat paper and there was a Republican paper that may have not been called Republican but it was like The Call or something like that. But they were distinct. The papers in your area were distinct. There was a Republican and Democrat paper and they would appeal to their partisan readers

2:31:13 The idea of making newspapers objective and having J schools teach people how to make that happen was an abject failure. Because at the end, Trump just brought it to the floor which is with this fake news comments. When he says fake news what he means is Democrats Democrat news and there is no Republican news except for talk radio on AM Radio Fox tried to do it and then you have now you have a bunch of screwy little ones like OA and a bunch of other ones. If you go on Pluto, they have a slew of these newscasts that I've never heard about. Yeah they've got, what is it? America's Newsmax, couple of these. Yeah Newsmax is one them. Basically anything that will take Steve Bannon is on Pluto. He's in all those channels.

2:32:11 Let's just play this last clip and then we can discuss it more. Offending millennials, you have these 50 year old editors 55 year old editors who know that in a profession that they've been in their whole lives the only thing that they can do where jobs are disappearing The last thing they want is to be accused of being misogynist or racist a homophobe or transphobe or anything else because of things that they publish by doing their jobs and they would rather just cling to their jobs and support their family even if it means abandoning the role of journalism as they've always conceived it. And so, the pathology in newsrooms for all those reasons is intense and pervasive, and I think growing rapidly in a way that is not going to be solved by trying to reform these institutions. They're too dependent upon this model. I think what's gonna happen is new models of how to do journalism... And you know, I was very candid about the fact that even before I left The Intercept because of that censorship episode, I was already exploring the possibility of doing that precisely because it's so obvious if that's what's missing. Okay

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

Big Tech Newsstands and the Threat of Political Retribution

The hosts compare the current digital landscape to the partisan newspapers of the 1800s, with Big Tech acting as the "public newsstand" that controls access. They express concern that the media is riling up the public for "retribution" against Trump supporters. However, Dvorak argues that the media will eventually discourage this to maintain the "unity" narrative and protect their business interests.

big tech· censorship· retribution· unity· trumpists· media clout

2:33:14 Well, I have a question for you about the old partisan newspapers. Were there wars at the newsstand where so like the left-wing paper would come along and then would dump their stack on top of the right wing paper? And then some other guy would come back and... Off the top of my head, I don't know this. I don't know that history that well but it would not surprise me because in fact I'd be surprised if that wasn't happening Right so that is analogous to what's happening now where the public news stand is run by big tech The ones people are familiar with There's lots of new stands even back in the day you go around the corner and pick up your special little newspaper

2:34:00 But this is so people cannot get equal access to different forms of news. And I think this is really what we're going to be seeing, and not from Glenn and from Taibbi Although I think they have their own problem, both of these guys in my opinion are in heavy need of an editor because the shit is too long. It's...I lose focus! I lose consciousness sometimes. I can feel them- Less so with Taibbi Glenn Greenwald writes long and it's not well done. It's too much, it's just too long! And he's like oh I can write everything and I am interested in what he has to write but he said I got a sub stack from him yesterday. You're on Greenwalds list? Yeah one came in yesterday so I think looking at whats happening

2:35:00 And we're just presuming that Biden and Harris are going to be occupying, and we will refer to them as the current occupants of the White House. They are my president! Not my president? Yeah well I'm not like that but i can see where people would say that it is in a way, fear. But I think that the news will continue to... they need to have Trump somehow. They need Trump in the picture unless they come up with another bad guy and and a good surrogate is going to be any journalist but really any person, any category of people—and this comes back to The Retribution—that had anything to do or said anything positive about Trump will be targeted

2:35:55 And it's going to be really, really ugly. And people are being riled up and they're being told that these are racists and misogynists and Nazis and whatever... I fear for that situation That people will just spit on you in the street like your a collaborateur and shave your head! I think that is not gonna happen, i'll tell ya why Ok well good, you make me feel better I think the news, and this was kind of explained in these three clips is that Trump saved the business allowed The New York Times to be super profitable made MSNBC a winner. This thing turning into what you described which it could happen if it was promoted that way would be a disaster but it would hurt their business

2:36:50 And since they want to keep Trump into the picture, they don't want to lose all his money by this situation that you described happening. That's exactly what would happen it would start to fall apart They will discourage it The media has enough clout to do this They'll discourage it with this unity thing or whatever crap they're pushing and that will never occur This will never happen The Trumpists will be welcomed into the fold and everybody will be happy. I think that moments of this, what you described is going to be short-lived if it happens at all. I hope you're right!

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Knighting Ceremony for Episode 1293

Three producers are elevated to the rank of Knight for their contributions of $1,000 or more. Sir Dave of the PNW is named a Black Knight, alongside Sir Couchmaster and Sir Miattico. The traditional knighting ceremony includes the symbolic offering of "mutton and mead" and instructions for the new knights to provide their ring sizes for the official No Agenda rings.

sir dave of the pnw· sir couchmaster· sir miattico· knighting· black knight· mutton and mead

2:44:13 And we do have three knightings of course one is a black knight that'll be Dave of the PNW so We've got him right up front and might as well get that black knighting sword out. Here you go Along with with Todd Troutman and Michael Miodico. We better get a pronunciation guide because he becomes the knight today as well, yes gentlemen all three of you have supported The Noah Jenner Show in the amount of $1,000 or more that qualifies you for your seat here at the table well-deserved with the roundtable of the knights and the dames and I am very proud to pronounce the

2:44:51 Sir Dave of the PNW Black Knight, Sir Couchmaster and Sir Miattico. Gentlemen we've got hookers & blow, rentboys in Chardonnay We have onion rings and ice cream Fish pie and fellatio Harlots and handel Beer and blunts Cowgirls with coffin varnish Vodka vanilla bong Hicks and bourbon Sparkling cider on escorts Gin drailin' gerbils And of course, since everybody loves it the mutton and mead is here in abundance. After you've pigged out on that head over to noagendanation.com slash rings Eric the shill will request some basic information from you so we can get your proper ring size out and thank you all again for supporting The Work here at The Best Podcast In The Universe

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Global No Agenda Meetup Reports and Schedule

Meetup reports are played from Boston and Dallas, featuring groups of "small amygdala" producers gathering at restaurants. Upcoming meetups are announced for Seattle, Tucson, Charlotte, and a virtual meeting in Second Life. The hosts encourage listeners to start their own local chapters to find community away from the "triggering" environment of mainstream social circles.

boston· dallas· tucson· charlotte· nashville· second life· meetups

2:45:37 We've heard a lot about meetups today on the show. We have some reports. Yes, meetups are taking place all around the globe. They happen when no agenda producers get together and promise to... Well they don't have to promise they just like hanging out they talk about stuff on the show there's no triggering everyone can be as clumsy as they want There is no good, there is no bad It seems to work out really well it's a human social experiment which I call resounding success. Witness the No Agenda Autumn Beast Boston meetup report.

2:46:32 Can you imagine that tune becoming like a German drinking song, like 100 years from now? And I caught off the first half of it. Didn't want to subject this to the whole song! No no... In the morning, Sir Ernesto here. Stay safe John! In the morning, it's the Flying Dutchman Bus Head! Hey bus! In the morning, Sir Karras, Baron of Greater Boston

2:47:13 ITM, this is Sir Penn. In the morning this is Nicholas Black! In the morning this is future Dame JJ! In the morning this is Sir Nathan Lee Adam and John you are needed now more than ever! And that's some food for thought and um... Now I'm blurring the party lines alright have a great uh bye-bye bye-bye and so long and such. Come on, that sounds like a fun group to hang out with. Or you could always go to Dallas Texas... Where all the British guys are apparently! From the Dallas meet up I'm gonna pass around the table. Here's Jordan my smoking hot wife I'm the smoking hot wife. This is producer Eric Wim in the mornin'. This is Richard KG5DDX, no agenda hams we're gonna save the world. That's right! ITM and 73s. This is Jacob with his smoking hot wife into human resources stay woke

2:48:08 We are birthing two human resources, chasing them around this dirty floored restaurant. This is Sir Chaotic Mass of the undeclared protectorate over here having a party with all the small amygdalas in the morning! This is Daniel Epstein did not vote for Biden. In the morning? Oh no hold on... IN THE MORNING!!! Yes Dallas uh-huh I don't know how I was supposed to take that. Yes, I'm the smoking hot wife chasing my human resources as they burst around the dirty floor.

2:48:45 How did you take that job? Was she happy about the dirty floor? You know, it's hard to say. It was enigmatic. Let's put it that way. There are a number of meetups you can attend coming up this week on Tuesday in the Empire California 11 o'clock Pacific Time That will be Sylvan Park Then we have Friday, the Seattle No Agenda Meetup at 4 o'clock. Patrick organizing that. Then in Tucson, Tucson Tea Time on Friday the 13th at 430 Mountain Time. Let's see... That'll be it Whiskey Roads in

2:49:24 Tucson, am I saying? Yeah. Whiskey Roads in Tucson then also on Friday the Charlotte regional meetup Slaves Dames and Nair do wells at six o'clock triple C brewing and Bill Cameron organizing that On the horizon for the 14th we have Fort Myers Florida Michigan, Michigan Mobile Lowcountry, South Carolina. Friendsgiving Nashville Tennessee Catskill Mountains Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and Nashville Tennessee proper then on the 15th virtual meet up in Second Life okay The Philly Local 76 jersey still going I guess? I had no idea you know who mentioned that to me the other day was Andrew Horowitz he mentioned that I had been in Second Life but you know how long ago that is

2:50:10 That's 15 years ago. Is that thing still going? Yeah, it's really old Those guys had the right idea though with virtual money Anyway Yes a virtual second life meet up on the 15th in Philly local 76 Jersey strong selfish bastards The Jitsi Virtual on the 18th Kawartha College country, no, Coortho Cottage Country Ontario Candanavia on the 21st and then on the 20th and on the 21st San Diego Midland Texas Columbus Ohio. And there will be a Thanksgiving Saturday potluck in Austin on November 28th at No Agenda Meetups! It's a good place to go hang out with people

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

Neil Postman and the Huxleyan vs. Orwellian Prophecy

Tristan Harris appeared on Joe Rogan's podcast to read the introduction of Neil Postman's "Amusing Ourselves to Death." The text contrasts George Orwell's fear of a captive culture with Aldous Huxley's fear of a trivial culture drowned in a "sea of irrelevance." The hosts discuss how modern society seems to be experiencing both prophecies simultaneously, with an "infinite appetite for distractions."

neil postman· amusing ourselves to death· aldous huxley· george orwell· joe rogan· tristan harris

2:50:52 And it's a very good time no matter where in the world you are. If you can't find anything on knowagenthemeetups.com, why don't you start one of your own? It's easy and it's just like a party! Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days To be where you want to be, triggered or held aflame You wanna be where everybody feels the same It's like a party I have one last clip i wanted to play for all the roganites who show up here and miss their favorite episodes. Joe had Tristan Harris on the other day, and we know Tristan because he's done... He testified a lot about the... He is the formal Google guy. He sent the document then got excoriated and kicked out of Google. And he was also in The Social Dilemma

2:51:52 I accept him generally as a guy who kind of understands what's going on and We've played a lot of clips from it, but he did something on the Joe Rogan experience Which was such an no agenda throwback. I Considered should we do it? And just do what he did But actually he needed a pretty good reading He read the opening to amusing ourselves to death by Neil Postman which is a book we discussed in 11 years ago, maybe 10 years ago and there was a whole series. It was really my education where The beginning of the show I was reading well Of course Ayn Rand I remember taking a month to read that brave new world Aldous Huxley And of course George Orwell 1984 and then later we started talking about Neil Postman and these may be on know agenda books calm with the no agenda book club But he did a reading

2:52:47 of the opening of Amusing Ourselves to Death, which shows the contrast or is it really? Maybe we're seeing both of these simultaneously certainly in the United States but I think globally between the George Orwell 1984 version of The World and the Huxley version of the world, which kind of contrast each other. And for anyone who hasn't read these three books in particular this is your primer. We were all looking out for you know 1984 when the year came and the prophecy didn't thoughtful Americans sang softly in praise of themselves The roots of liberal democracy had held This is like we made it through the 1984 gap

2:53:32 Wherever else the terror had happened, we at least had not been visited by Orwellian nightmares. But we had forgotten that alongside Orwell's dark vision there was another slightly older slightly less well-known equally chilling vision of Aldous Huxley's brave new world contrary to common belief even among the educated Huxley and Orwell did not prophecy the same thing or well warns that will become overwhelmed overcome by an externally imposed oppression But in Huxley's vision, no big brother is required to deprive people of their autonomy maturity or history. As he saw it people will come to love their oppression, to adore the technologies that undo their capacities to think what Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information

2:54:26 Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we'd be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance." Orwell feared we would become a captive culture, but Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies and the orgy-porgy in The Centrifugal Bumble Puppy. Don't know what that means! As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions

2:55:06 Lastly in 1984 or well added people are all people are controlled by inflicting pain in brave new world They are controlled by inflicting pleasure in short Orwell feared that what we fear will ruin us Huxley feared that what we desire will ruin us. Holy shit It's Joe Rogan hearing this for the first time But it's really interesting, I hadn't really considered that for a while. That both can be true at the same time and i think it may be generational and we see all of it but its kind of interesting how these two intersect maybe im reading too much into it but man this over socialized under informed segment of the population they are definitely

2:55:56 Definitely happy about the brave new world and they've got their Soma, which is... everything is controlled. It's kind of regulated. They've got their uppers, their downers. Takes care of everything we're kind of happy We don't want to deal with racist misogynist horrible people who have different ideas Can't you just be like everyone else? It's kind of, we're kind of there. Well this isn't making them happy though This is making them anxious and nervous and they're wrecks Yeah which is why you get more Soma You need more Soma to take care when your feeling anxious We literally have this situation

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

Jonathan Haidt on Gen Z Mental Health and Social Media

Sociologist Jonathan Haidt presents data showing a massive spike in anxiety, depression, and self-harm among Gen Z, particularly girls, starting around 2009. He attributes this trend to the introduction of social media in middle school. Haidt argues that this generation never learned to deal with "ordinary everyday stress," leading to the current "cancel culture" and mental health crisis on college campuses.

jonathan haidt· gen z· anxiety· depression· social media· self-harm· suicide

2:56:36 Well, let's listen to this. Okay I had different things that wanted to end with but now it's okay and with this part of a sociologist named Jonathan hate who does a lot of books H a IDT is we've books up we did his book we've discussed His yes, we've discussed one of his books not too long ago. I think like it is a lecture he gave last year He was at Penn State He gets kicked out of a lot of people who won't listen to these lectures. And this is his commentary on Gen Z, which has now populated the colleges and I just thought it was fascinating. Let's listen to part one. The percentage who self-identify as having a psychological disorder was very low for women and men

2:57:23 But once the Millennials leave and now college is all Gen Z other than veterans or older people coming back but the ones who are coming out of high school they have much, much higher rates of believing that they have a mental disorder. And it's mostly depression and anxiety Some great work done here at Penn State you have an institute that collects information from all the counseling centers around the country Why are so many students going into the counseling center? What is the reason that they report when they come in through the front door and the reason as you can see, going back to 2013-2014 to the present. The only things that are going up our anxiety and depression nothing else is rising So it's not that young people today are just so comfortable talking about

2:58:09 Oh, I have schizophrenia. I have bipolar disorder." No! It's only depression and anxiety. It's not even stress. Gen Z does not claim to be more stressed than a previous generation They just never got the chance to learn how to deal with normal ordinary everyday stress And i'll explain why later So, as I mentioned there is some skepticism. This was in the New York Times a few months ago Richard Friedman saying relax there is no epidemic and it's not and there's no harm caused by devices your kids playing video games your kids spending hours and hours a day on devices relax it's The only evidence that its harming them is self-report

2:58:50 These surveys that show that they say that they're more depressed, but you know They're just more comfortable talking about it. That's his argument in the New York Times But I believe that he is wrong and here's why no I'm liking this this is good. I've witnessed all of this Yes And he brings at home with like some pretty good documentation and The concept heres you'll hear in part two and three is that yes Based on the facts, the science. Based on the science... Science! These devices which we're talking about computers and phones and social networks are ruining people's lives and ruining the future And he did a whole speech about this I mean they could pay us to do this Hey it's ruining everyone's life We wouldn't be as academic This is data on the percentage of boys Now for boy there is no change

2:59:43 But this is data on the percentage of boys, or I'm sorry, the number of boys out of 100,000 in the population who are admitted to a hospital each year for cutting themselves or otherwise harming themselves so severely that they required hospitalization. And so, as you see the youngest boys aged 10 to 14 almost never do that. So the rates are fairly low for boys compared to girls which we'll see in a moment and for boy there's been no change from 2001-2015 but look at the rates of girls much higher now here I've cut it off 2009 Much, much higher. This is a manifestation of an anxiety disorder. Self-harm is a product of anxiety disorders. Much higher rates for girls and young women as you see but look what happens after 2009 What you see Is that for the older teenage girls the rate has increased 62% This is not self report this is not just changing diagnostic criteria These are hospital admissions

3:00:45 Now, interestingly the oldest group here who are millennials in this data set. The millennials were not affected because as I said they got social media when they were in college and later and there's not much evidence that it was harmful in college. I believe...I'm working on a lit review now, there is debate about this but my Conclusion from going through the data is that the problem is getting social media in middle school And that's a problem especially for girls look what happens to the youngest girls age 10 to 14 girls They didn't used to cut themselves, but their rate has gone up 189 percent since they got social media in Middle School

3:01:26 Again, I can't prove causality but I have a lit review online which i'm working on. I think the evidence does point to social media as being the reason for the huge sex difference in what has happened to teenagers Wait a minute you mean there's a difference between boys and girls? This will not stand! Who knew?! We need to cancel this guy this is no good what he's saying here. This is very dangerous misogynist Yeah, so it looks like he's got this down and this is a kind of... This being ignored of course by everybody but agenda show. It's frightening! So let's listen to the last clip and we'll be done with him

3:02:04 It also shows up in suicide. So the suicide rate was higher for males in the 80s and 90s when there was a huge crime wave and a lot of violence, but it's been stable in the 2000s until recently so for males its up 25%. Now it turns out most age groups are going up. Suicide is going down around the world but it's going up in America for almost all age groups both sexes. The rise for boys is actually not much more than what's happening to older men But the rise for women, while it's higher than for men overall. For 15 to 19 year old girls it is up 70%, which is much higher and for 10-14 year old girls who have a very low base rate

3:02:51 But for them, again the increase is gigantic. 151% increase in preteen girl suicides in this country so something is going wrong especially for girls 2015 hit a peak higher than ever recorded before since we've been collecting data and two years after that are right about the same level so it was not a one-year spike So that's the first mega trend. This affects a lot of things on campus, this is affecting companies and corporations who are beginning to hire Gen Z and are noticing now they have a lot more anxiety in their young employees so HR departments have to staff up Did he get into any specific reasons why this was happening?

3:03:31 He associates it with social networks. Yeah, but why specific? I mean I can come up with a whole bunch of ideas But did he specifically say what it is about throwing out stats He's not saying what specific about social networks that causes this okay? I don't think it takes the genius to figure it out personally but we discussed something minor Maybe so maybe it's just the movement of the hand It could be something screwy or are there colors and you never know but this is not a good situation and it's really ruining a lot of stuff. And these kids are screwed up, and they're the ones who are coming in here and there with their cancer cancel culture they buy into that. Yeah yeah yeah. Then they get canceled then you have all these other problems he did have one little thing later in his lecture that was kind of interesting I didn't clip but he talked about how the parenting has also changed a lot and may have something to do with it but pretty much

3:04:29 He is dating the way things are it has less to do with and the social networks and the peer groups that are Created by it, you know I don't have a kid in a Gen Z or even if no one. That's a Gen Z kid Personally that I can tap for this kind of information again we're doing me both they're loaded up with Millennials but It would be nice to talk to one of them So that he came on to the scene or onto our scene about five years ago with this book The coddling of the American mind That's Howard. That is a very good book Its full title, The Coddling Of The American Mind How Good Intentions And Bad Ideas Are Setting Up A Generation For Failure which actually started as an article in The Atlantic

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

The Coddling of the American Mind and Show Outro

The hosts conclude the show by discussing Jonathan Haidt's book, "The Coddling of the American Mind," and the "unhinged" behavior observed in younger generations. They sign off from Austin and Silicon Valley, reminding listeners to return on Thursday for more deconstruction. The episode ends with a final reminder to support the show through the Value for Value model.

jonathan haidt· the atlantic· gen z· austin· silicon valley· drone star state

3:03:31 He associates it with social networks. Yeah, but why specific? I mean I can come up with a whole bunch of ideas But did he specifically say what it is about throwing out stats He's not saying what specific about social networks that causes this okay? I don't think it takes the genius to figure it out personally but we discussed something minor Maybe so maybe it's just the movement of the hand It could be something screwy or are there colors and you never know but this is not a good situation and it's really ruining a lot of stuff. And these kids are screwed up, and they're the ones who are coming in here and there with their cancer cancel culture they buy into that. Yeah yeah yeah. Then they get canceled then you have all these other problems he did have one little thing later in his lecture that was kind of interesting I didn't clip but he talked about how the parenting has also changed a lot and may have something to do with it but pretty much

3:04:29 He is dating the way things are it has less to do with and the social networks and the peer groups that are Created by it, you know I don't have a kid in a Gen Z or even if no one. That's a Gen Z kid Personally that I can tap for this kind of information again we're doing me both they're loaded up with Millennials but It would be nice to talk to one of them So that he came on to the scene or onto our scene about five years ago with this book The coddling of the American mind That's Howard. That is a very good book Its full title, The Coddling Of The American Mind How Good Intentions And Bad Ideas Are Setting Up A Generation For Failure which actually started as an article in The Atlantic

3:05:20 Actually, the article in The Atlantic was 2015. The book came out at the beginning of 20... Before Loren Jobs bought the place! Yes and now I mean Now that I think about it if you really look at who is saying horrible things to police officers on the street to people who just, it's a disagreement. It seems unscientific observation that women are doing more of that, that there is more unhingedness and more ridicule and scorn and anger oozing from females. Now I'm going really pay attention to it

3:06:08 So whenever you see something on the street and where someone's yelling, I mean...I think eight times out of ten it's going to be a female. Yeah hysteric. A hysterical female that is probably a Gen Z which is what? 19-20 year olds. Yeah well I need to know where the cutoff is. Where's the cut off from Gen Z to millennial? Well let's look at it before we go. Okay Before we go and while John's doing that I'll let you know the next up on Noah Jenna stream commas grumpy old bends And they'll be discussing the aftermath of the 2020 election, which I don't know how you can do. That it's not over yet but unless you believe what the media says

3:06:51 Once that fat lady is in I'll believe it and then end of show mixes we have mad Mike We've got Rolando Gonzalez and Jesse Coy Nelson. It's a great the great trifecta Actually, he brings this up. I remember the date now 1995 you born in 1995 That's the beginning of Gen Z Okay Do we have an end-of-show ISO? Yeah, I have one. I have one Maybe this is it nine out of ten of us are hams. I got that done Nothing like a Keith Olbermann end of show ISO everybody. Woo! Saved by the bell and I look forward to seeing everybody on Thursday come back here fill up that troll room, troll to your heart's content because there will be a lot more to deconstruct and discuss as your guardians of reality are on duty and we report again on Thursday

3:07:47 And don't worry if you don't feel good, if you feel dizzy. If it's all getting to you, you know what I always say just look at the ground and it will all go away Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 right near the Section 8 housing here in the capital of The Drone Star State Austin Texas which is FEMA region number six on the governmental maps if you're looking where to drone In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from northern Silicon Valley where we know if you look at the ground so it can all go away you might find a dollar! I'm John C. Dvorak We return on Thursday right here on NO Agenda remember to support us by going to dvorak dot org slash NA or any of our no agenda websites they are plentiful until then adios mofos and such

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End of Show Mix and Voter Fraud Satire

The show concludes with a musical montage satirizing the 2020 election, featuring clips of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and media projections. The lyrics touch on "fraudulent pallets," "postal backdating," and the "Build Back Better" slogan. The final audio clip is the Fox News Decision Desk projecting Joe Biden as the 46th President of the United States.

joe biden· kamala harris· voter fraud· build back better· fox news· end of show mix

3:08:46 The polling place is locked up tight It looks like all is quiet for the night When suddenly, the clock strikes four The fun's begun The workers now just waiting round and getting ready for their secret count. The trucks appear out of thin air, and here they come! Boxes and pallets of fraudulent pallets being dug right through that door. Encounters are counting corruption at mountain level.

3:09:42 There they go, there they go, there they go, there they go. Daylight a-breaking, false statement faking An HD town counting plays Trump's made a waning Biden again in As he slept right through the race Postal backdating, Kamala's waiting Anticipating Biden

3:10:25 At least it's clear beneath the thin veneer The media is fake Come on, man. Secondly... come on! We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics Is what they do worthwhile? No, i'm serious. I'm being deadly earnest. Come on, man. Hey 30 seconds I'll do what he's on air

3:11:10 Four more years of Georgia. Outlaying an effective strategy to mobilize true international pressure. Come on man! Barack and I think it's a right for people that bad in South Korea China is going to eat our lunch Come on. I got more questions, but if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't black... Look first of all let's just back up because here's the thing

3:11:47 I am clear that Russia interfered in the election of President of the United States in 2016. I serve on Senate Intelligence Committee, we have published detailed reports about exactly what we believe happened and I do believe that there will be foreign interference in 2020 election and that Russia will be at front line. We have a president who is trying to convince the American people not to believe in the integrity of our election system and compromise their belief that their vote might actually count. I frankly think that based on this, and all we've seen him do before his Twitter account should be suspended

3:12:30 It's great to be back at TSU. Everyone, beware because they're not going to stop it is going to they're not going to stop before election day in November and they're They're not going to let up and they shouldn't. And we should not. It is the perspective of a woman who grew up, a black child in America who was also a prosecutor, who also has a mother who arrived here at the age of 19 from India, who also likes hip hop. What do you want to know?

3:13:20 Come on, steal the vote! Red stays turned blue. Eagle ballots, ballots, ballots. Mark Beto So you say you're gonna vote for Trump in Pennsylvania? You can't watch the count We're gonna blow you out! So you think Trump votes are any better in Arizona? We'll just give you a sharpie and toss your ballot in the trash. Oh yeah!

3:14:04 So come on, steal the road The fix has always been We wanna build back better Build back better So come on, steal the road You really have no voice? You're gonna be our slaves forever So you say you're gonna vote for Trump in Michigan? We'll make a glitch Your vote will switch Don and Georgia Wilson water pipes burst We'll stop the counting We're in Wisconsin too There's nothing you can do You bet there is So come on, steal the vote

3:15:03 The Fox News decision desk can now project that former Vice President Joe Biden will win to become the 46th president of the United States. The best podcast in the universe! Adios, mofo. Dvorak dot org slash N-A Nine out of ten of us are hams