2:56:36 Well, let's listen to this. Okay I had different things that wanted to end with but now it's okay and with this part of a sociologist named Jonathan hate who does a lot of books H a IDT is we've books up we did his book we've discussed His yes, we've discussed one of his books not too long ago. I think like it is a lecture he gave last year He was at Penn State He gets kicked out of a lot of people who won't listen to these lectures. And this is his commentary on Gen Z, which has now populated the colleges and I just thought it was fascinating. Let's listen to part one. The percentage who self-identify as having a psychological disorder was very low for women and men
2:57:23 But once the Millennials leave and now college is all Gen Z other than veterans or older people coming back but the ones who are coming out of high school they have much, much higher rates of believing that they have a mental disorder. And it's mostly depression and anxiety Some great work done here at Penn State you have an institute that collects information from all the counseling centers around the country Why are so many students going into the counseling center? What is the reason that they report when they come in through the front door and the reason as you can see, going back to 2013-2014 to the present. The only things that are going up our anxiety and depression nothing else is rising So it's not that young people today are just so comfortable talking about
2:58:09 Oh, I have schizophrenia. I have bipolar disorder." No! It's only depression and anxiety. It's not even stress. Gen Z does not claim to be more stressed than a previous generation They just never got the chance to learn how to deal with normal ordinary everyday stress And i'll explain why later So, as I mentioned there is some skepticism. This was in the New York Times a few months ago Richard Friedman saying relax there is no epidemic and it's not and there's no harm caused by devices your kids playing video games your kids spending hours and hours a day on devices relax it's The only evidence that its harming them is self-report
2:58:50 These surveys that show that they say that they're more depressed, but you know They're just more comfortable talking about it. That's his argument in the New York Times But I believe that he is wrong and here's why no I'm liking this this is good. I've witnessed all of this Yes And he brings at home with like some pretty good documentation and The concept heres you'll hear in part two and three is that yes Based on the facts, the science. Based on the science... Science! These devices which we're talking about computers and phones and social networks are ruining people's lives and ruining the future And he did a whole speech about this I mean they could pay us to do this Hey it's ruining everyone's life We wouldn't be as academic This is data on the percentage of boys Now for boy there is no change
2:59:43 But this is data on the percentage of boys, or I'm sorry, the number of boys out of 100,000 in the population who are admitted to a hospital each year for cutting themselves or otherwise harming themselves so severely that they required hospitalization. And so, as you see the youngest boys aged 10 to 14 almost never do that. So the rates are fairly low for boys compared to girls which we'll see in a moment and for boy there's been no change from 2001-2015 but look at the rates of girls much higher now here I've cut it off 2009 Much, much higher. This is a manifestation of an anxiety disorder. Self-harm is a product of anxiety disorders. Much higher rates for girls and young women as you see but look what happens after 2009 What you see Is that for the older teenage girls the rate has increased 62% This is not self report this is not just changing diagnostic criteria These are hospital admissions
3:00:45 Now, interestingly the oldest group here who are millennials in this data set. The millennials were not affected because as I said they got social media when they were in college and later and there's not much evidence that it was harmful in college. I believe...I'm working on a lit review now, there is debate about this but my Conclusion from going through the data is that the problem is getting social media in middle school And that's a problem especially for girls look what happens to the youngest girls age 10 to 14 girls They didn't used to cut themselves, but their rate has gone up 189 percent since they got social media in Middle School
3:01:26 Again, I can't prove causality but I have a lit review online which i'm working on. I think the evidence does point to social media as being the reason for the huge sex difference in what has happened to teenagers Wait a minute you mean there's a difference between boys and girls? This will not stand! Who knew?! We need to cancel this guy this is no good what he's saying here. This is very dangerous misogynist Yeah, so it looks like he's got this down and this is a kind of... This being ignored of course by everybody but agenda show. It's frightening! So let's listen to the last clip and we'll be done with him
3:02:04 It also shows up in suicide. So the suicide rate was higher for males in the 80s and 90s when there was a huge crime wave and a lot of violence, but it's been stable in the 2000s until recently so for males its up 25%. Now it turns out most age groups are going up. Suicide is going down around the world but it's going up in America for almost all age groups both sexes. The rise for boys is actually not much more than what's happening to older men But the rise for women, while it's higher than for men overall. For 15 to 19 year old girls it is up 70%, which is much higher and for 10-14 year old girls who have a very low base rate
3:02:51 But for them, again the increase is gigantic. 151% increase in preteen girl suicides in this country so something is going wrong especially for girls 2015 hit a peak higher than ever recorded before since we've been collecting data and two years after that are right about the same level so it was not a one-year spike So that's the first mega trend. This affects a lot of things on campus, this is affecting companies and corporations who are beginning to hire Gen Z and are noticing now they have a lot more anxiety in their young employees so HR departments have to staff up Did he get into any specific reasons why this was happening?
3:03:31 He associates it with social networks. Yeah, but why specific? I mean I can come up with a whole bunch of ideas But did he specifically say what it is about throwing out stats He's not saying what specific about social networks that causes this okay? I don't think it takes the genius to figure it out personally but we discussed something minor Maybe so maybe it's just the movement of the hand It could be something screwy or are there colors and you never know but this is not a good situation and it's really ruining a lot of stuff. And these kids are screwed up, and they're the ones who are coming in here and there with their cancer cancel culture they buy into that. Yeah yeah yeah. Then they get canceled then you have all these other problems he did have one little thing later in his lecture that was kind of interesting I didn't clip but he talked about how the parenting has also changed a lot and may have something to do with it but pretty much
3:04:29 He is dating the way things are it has less to do with and the social networks and the peer groups that are Created by it, you know I don't have a kid in a Gen Z or even if no one. That's a Gen Z kid Personally that I can tap for this kind of information again we're doing me both they're loaded up with Millennials but It would be nice to talk to one of them So that he came on to the scene or onto our scene about five years ago with this book The coddling of the American mind That's Howard. That is a very good book Its full title, The Coddling Of The American Mind How Good Intentions And Bad Ideas Are Setting Up A Generation For Failure which actually started as an article in The Atlantic