Infodemic

00:00 Oh, a webinar. Adam Curry John C. Dvorak It's Sunday July 19th 2020 this is your award winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 1261 This is no agenda LMMO and broadcasting live from Opportunity Zone 33 here at the frontier Boston Texas capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody I'm Adam Curry And from Northern Silicon Valley LS MFT I'm John C. Dvorak It's Crackpot and Buzzkill! In the morning... Wait a minute, are we the two hippest guys on the planet? Do we have new acronyms? Lucky Strike means fine tobacco. Oh, L-M-M-O Laughing My Mask Off. Laughing my mask off. Come on now, come on now. That's a good one. Yeah yeah it's one for the books, one for the books I'm in Well welcome to the uh one of the epicenters of the uh of the surge

00:58 where everything's spiking. Oh yeah, you are the second... would it be penultimate epicenter? Second best. Well of course we just visited the actual epicenter in Florida and didn't die there either so we're still hanging in were hopeful will get through this our governor has said that don't have to worry we're not going to lock down which kind of threw some Some sand in the eyes of our local mayor who had been using this lockdown coming to threaten everybody like, yeah and the next two weeks will be the most important. This is we have too many cases it's going out of control! And then we had the best fear porn ever come across The Transom on Friday 85 infants have tested positive for coronavirus in Nueces County which includes Corpus Christi The public health director made that announcement this week

01:50 urge residents to wear masks and practice social distancing. These babies have not even had their first birthday yet, please help us to stop the spread of this disease." No other details were provided on the condition of those infants but Corpus Christi currently has 82 deaths linked to the virus. All right this needs to be deconstructed now you're saying... The voice in the middle is the public health director for Nueces County which includes Corpus Christi And this report was very, very mean to first say 85 babies have tested positive not mentioning if they were sick or not and then end the report with 82 have died so far.

02:35 Yeah, but they meant 82 total people didn't they? Of course. But it's meant to put something into your brain No other details were provided on the condition of those infants but Corpus Christi currently has 82 deaths linked to the virus. But here is the kicker. Yeah nice... Well it gets better It gets better So this went viral everyone's tripping out Oh babies! Oh no! Schools are- what babies?! This report and many similar to it neglect to mention that the 85 infants who tested positive is a total number since the beginning of March. But do you think anyone will hear about that part of it or will just be the 85 children are all they're almost dead? Wow! Yeah, and that's just fear porn. Fear porn and probably irresponsible journalism

03:36 But crap. I mean it sounded like, I heard that report and thought they were having this day 85 babies somehow tested positive. And now you can see they've changed their stories the headlines remain the same 85 infants, 85 babies test positive COVID Corpus Christi, Oasis and then some of them have added down somewhere in the story that it was a total starting as March 1 So this is the kind of stuff that we have to be very careful of. Also, 38 thousand—it's an announcement it's actually in the news—38 thousand trainees are now starting their medical residency during this pandemic. This is from CNN who were happy to report and neglects to report that statistically deaths go up a little bit in July because of the thirty-eight thousand trainees who come in and are learning on the job

04:32 It's not really something they advertise, I guess. But we know this is well known within the medical community... Community? Community! Then I have a question for you Have you received an email or heard from someone that has said something like this Today, a group of family friends young 20-somethings drove to San Diego from northern San Diego County to get in line for COVID testing. They signed in and got in line one of them got tired of waiting in line it to be tested so he left and went home his test results came back positive! He wasn't tested and his test results came back positive I have received a similar message from at least 15 people and I've seen twice that many stories on Twitter is this

05:25 something that is actually rampant? Where even if you sign up, but you don't get the test somehow it comes back positive maybe by default or is this one of those urban legends where a good friend of mine said or a buddy of mine went through this. What do you think? Well because of its nature it has all the earmarks of an urban legend bullcrap story yeah so you have to assume it is okay Well, I'm planning on getting to registering for a test and then not taking the test and see if it comes back. Just as a personal experiment. That would be a good starting point to verify this idea. And furthermore the state of Texas has now removed 3,484 cases from its COVID-19 positive case count because San Antonio's Health Department was reporting probable cases for people who were never actually tested as confirmed positive

06:20 There's a lot of stupidity with this testing and how, what value we're attaching to it. And even the death count... Did you see that email someone sent back? A note about the graph you put in the newsletter Okay, what? No I did not see it. So it was the death count graph and you saw that had kind of all peaked in April and now it's down close to zero... In mid-April. And someone replies said oh I put this on Twitter right away was schooled by everybody that that graph is wrong! The death count as a thousand so where'd you get that graph from? It's a compilation CDC stats that you can look up

07:03 It's a CDC graph. That's one of them, the other one is the UK graph I don't know where that came from Was the green one in UK? No, the UK graph looked about right but...I dunno I'm just saying that there is no way you can convince anybody who is all-in and believes everything Just forget about it Sit back, relax No, I've given up In fact You have to just... It's obvious that mid April this thing peaked out which is what Cuomo said was happening I mean everyone knows this. Exactly why they want to not, why they're in denial about it is just i think is just a mechanism of marketing to keep everybody all jacked up about the vaccine well yeah the vaccine and politics and so they can continuously bitch about Trump. It's just bitch about Trump, bitch about Trump keep on going but as predicted

07:53 It looks like we have the Act 3 coming into play with the vaccine. I'm going to lead you into...I see you have some clips about this, so this should probably work perfectly. Texas once again? What clips? Texas once again is a spot where- No! What?! I've been chatting and you don't hear me most of the time for some reason Maybe i was ignoring you what were you saying? I said what clips are you talking about? Fauci Clips Oh yeah, Fauci. Yeah so I'm gonna lead you into Fauci is what i was saying it was supposed to be slick but it really failed well yeah because you said they're vaccine clips and I don't know any vaccine clips okay

08:39 So we're moving into Act 3 as it pertains to this pandemic and clearly it's the vaccine stage, and everyone is getting all excited. It's almost like a global race but Fauci is as you would say in the biz problematic He recently with his wife appeared in an InStyle magazine profile at his house because he's Mr. Celebrity, remember? His wife Grady she is in charge of the ethical issues for approving vaccines within the NIH The fact that they're married shouldn't make any difference. I'm sure they're very professional about all of this and don't have any pillow talk, no conflict of interest there but Fauci got slammed, got butt-slammed because they weren't wearing masks! They should have been wearing masks in the pictorial he screwed it up and the whole point of the article was some transition of power i think because in it the question is do you think the president's going to fire you? And Fauci's answer is he can't

09:44 Question again. He can't fire you? Answer, no the president cannot fire me so Let's move in his boss and let's put him in with Rolf, and let's see what we can get out of it after we announce our trials in San Antonio. First at four the very first coronavirus vaccine tested in the United States is showing promising results Moderna released the results of the first phase of human trials and quickly advancing to the second phase A third phase set to begin late this month right here in San Antonio. The first phase of the Moderna trial produced good news with two doses of the vaccine showing a quick immune response, but that big question remains about the immunity of the vaccine they are trying to develop. Question related that is going to be long term immunity and how long this community

10:37 pain with the vaccine is going to last and protect patients. 89% of the participants were white, with the remaining being minorities. Getting minorities to participate in the next step is extremely important! And by the way when you're gonna talk to minorities about vaccine trials you have to make a few things very clear These are folks that are being hardest hit with this disease right now so we want them to be able to participate to help us give us more information about you know, how the virus affects them. For the third phase it is important to note volunteers would not be injected with COVID and it would not increase their chance of getting the virus at all. Oh thanks I feel much better now! An important thing for people to realize this you're not going to get the virus from the vaccine and those symptoms that you may experience are just evidence that the vaccine is doing what we want it to do in your body

11:31 If you would like more information about the trial or to sign up for the trial itself, we have the contact information for clinical trials of Texas with this story on kens5.com And by the way, what you saw there was not a doctor from Moderna. It was a representative from the agency that does the tests making it kind of look like hey I'm here for Moderna everything's all this is an ad to get people to sign up for this thing and we need some African-Americans over here Don't worry. There's no vaccine in this I mean, no No virus in this vaccine So so you so that apparently they actually think that if you tell someone hey We're giving an injection but does but we're not shooting up with kovat That that's going to be okay Somebody tells me that I'm not taking that what do you mean? What are you telling me this why did you have to disclaim that as an additional little measure there? What's

12:30 Yeah, what are you getting at? What do you... yeah. Anyway again I think they still need to target the young people to get a free pass to roam around wherever you want now With Fauci, in my regard on the way out we have to bring in his boss. We have to bring in Francis Collins and he's on with Brolf and of course the whole issue of transition comes up in this backhanded way about Fauci being fired I know you were asked the other day about this let me press you on this Dr. Collins You said that you would refuse

13:06 to dismiss Dr. Fauci works for you and you laugh saying, and I think i'm quoting you now, I think you heard my answer... To be clear are you saying that would not carry out in order to fire doctor Fauci? I could not imagine doing something of that sort No If you were to fire him, what would you do? Would you rather resign than carry out an order that came from the President of the United States. Sure! You know Wolf I really hope this kind of circumstance never comes to pass and i'm not sure it's a helpful conversation to have but I certainly would defend the contributions and remarkable character Tony Fauci and find it very difficult to be in a circumstance where

13:48 to do something like what you're describing. I want to move on, but has anyone inside the White House ever reached out to you about Dr Fauci getting your thoughts on whether or not he should stay in the task force for be fired? Nobody ever has and I hope you notice that the White House basically distanced themselves from Peter Navarro's op-ed that clearly was not supported by others in the White House senior staff. And he not only, of course is in this role on the task force and being a spokesperson about what's happening with COVID 19 He also is the scientist who leads our part of NIH with all that's happening now, with investigating and developing therapeutics and vaccines and new diagnostic tests. Something that I'm also deeply engaged in at the moment so he is a national treasure. He is a national treasure we can both agree of course he's a national treasure! We can't get rid of him? This is interesting because the clips I have are kind of reflect this... And by the way I don't think Collins is going to cut it

14:48 I'm pushing back on your theory now. They're gonna keep Fauci in play, but somebody wants to get rid of Fauci but it's not the White House and it's either the media or they're just hounding the hell out of Fauci what you just saw there was repeating this... What do you think about this? What do you think about that? Yep! I got a serious... Judy does the same thing. She has Fauci on for half an hour Okay now wait assertion again I like this Someone wants Fauci out, but it's not the White House. I like this. That's what i'm beginning to think because the way it keeps showing up It's not the white house that is making the fuss and it's definitely not Trump Right But somebody wants him to fire Fauci for some reason so they could use it all you fired Fauci Maybe that's it maybe just that simple right yeah Just have that bit if we could be could be

15:42 But let's say I took it. He was on the news hour for a half-hour, yak yak yak and he's you can see that they're not gonna put Collins in. Collins doesn't have the Something about Fauci, he's just...he's Fauci. You know? He has that crackly voice, He is cool as a cucumber, and really good actually But let us listen to this attack mode where Judy is trying to pull the same crap you heard Wolf do Now, this is the Fauci Judy attack one. The White House you had your first conversation with President Trump we are told this week in perhaps a month or longer you had a meeting with the White House chief of staff Mark Meadows

16:30 But just yesterday, he called you irresponsible for a statement you made comparing saying that this pandemic could be worse than the 1918 pandemic. You also have been attacked as by Peter Navarro, the White House adviser. Are you convinced that the White House is not trying to discredit you, Dr. Fauci? You know I think you've gotta be careful when you say the White House there are... The White House in general is not trying to certainly the president is not I certainly believe that Mark Meadows is not what happened with Peter Navarro and editorial I can't even comment on that just as beyond my comprehension why he did that but I do not believe that the White House is trying to discredit me No I don't

17:19 Hmm. Okay, so he says he I think that's it. He answered the question. He said no, I don't think so But wait a minute that's not good enough for Judy Let's read let me think what can Judy do well? Let's try take it just second shot. Let's go Do you think there are individuals in the White House who are well? I already mentioned one and Mark Meadows saying your irresponsible for that comment Well, what happened there is that was something that was said in another interview where I went...where there could have been a misunderstanding that I was equating them. So when we wanted to correct that which I did in an interview like yesterday, I believe, I don't think he was calling me

18:08 Irresponsible as a person. I think he was referring to his concern that there was going to be some misunderstanding. I don't have a problem with that, Mark and I are on very good terms. It's the term...I like the terminology irresponsible. How about this for size? So Trump wants him around because what's coming is Fauci's connection to the Wuhan lab and the financing So there may be people who want Fauci out for that very reason, and Trump to stay in- have him stay in for that very reason and call him things such as irresponsible which is a little better than you know horrible douchebag liar just he's irresponsible why well

18:57 Yeah, we saw what he did with Wuhan and with the lab and that was irresponsible. That's a career killer." It is an interesting idea but there is something going on. There's somebody trying to get rid of Fauci and it doesn't seem to be the White House but let's...but that's not good enough for Judy! Oh no! She heard it twice that he's in. No, no, no, that's not happening now and I understand what he said when he called me irresponsible. Boom fine! Nope nope let's go with number three a shorty here she's gonna try to get in quick one in Let me ask you this way Dr Fauci do you think you have the full backing and support of the White House from the president on down? I do...I believe I spoke to the President about that I believe I do

19:44 Okay, so that was pretty final. Pretty definitive. He's a question with the with the classic Oh geez let well Let me ask the same question this way now Kaylee Mac McEnany would have Blasted her yeah for asking the same question the third time but no That's not good enough still Judy decides to take him on a fourth time And why do you think they've been trying to limit your public appearances? Well, I think it's a question of different messages getting out. The real emphasis right now is on more of trying to get the country opened again and economic messages. Yes it varies there are some times when I'm on a lot

20:32 And there's sometimes when I'm not. Here, I am with you! You know? I always like to be on with you." I'm glad they said yes to that. And we appreciate it and we appreciate it. Ah wait there was approval for this one. You noticed that yeah huh they said I could do now who was they did are we just to assume The White House well There's a couple of things in that little subtext that come to mind one He's doing a lot of interviews. Yeah, yeah for sure And if he got it...he is getting approval to do all of them I would expect it That was just what he said because you got approval to the end did the news hour So he's getting approved for all these things so doing all these lots and lots and lots of interviews he's getting approval for so who's bitching about him doing too many interviews? Yeah Who?! The media

21:25 Yeah, it's the media. You had me stumped for a second but I'm glad i came through. This is a scam! Well my money's on him being a problem for the outcome of a lot of investigation because you know the investigating is going on right now Trump is pretty confident the way he speaks about it and speaks about Wuhan, and speaks about the lab. Fauci's no slouch. He's obviously been in the game for a long time, he's made a lot of money, he's got a wife that is well positioned...He'll come out of this fine! He may be the witness for the prosecution and witness for the White House. We don't know but it doesn't seem like he's worried at all about any of this bull crap that the media keeps throwing him and these constant questions about do they hate you at the White House?

22:29 Well, I'm seeing. I saw it with the wolf thing. I think the wolf thing was perfect He did the same thing Judy did yeah, how did him trying to get her say something? Yeah And it was obviously the same in style magazine not necessarily The Bastion of journalism so they got the message too hmm That is interesting. Okay, you can do an interview with him as long as you ask him about getting fired twice and if he asks three times then you're on our good list And we'll give you more access later on I can just see Judy falling for that crap She's off the she's lost it long ago now There was a couple of things that were actually decent in them interview Mm-hmm. I have three other clips to the Fauci interview if you want to hear one of them He did his thing

23:16 with a sidebar out of the blue. Managed to get a plug in here, this is the Fauci side bar with another respiratory virus where you've gotta be able to determine the difference of those two and that's the reason why I think what we should be doing is making sure that as we get into the fall, we get as many people vaccinated as we possibly can against influenza to try to the extent possible, get that off the table Yeah, so we can show that whatever else we put into your veins worked. Whatever! Just get the flu shot out there... I'm just a conspiratorial thinker that's all You are? You're terrible. I have no problem with it He does bring up the anti-vaxxers which by the way and i've said on this show

24:05 I know you totally agree with me, but you don't disagree is that when they came out with that swine flu vaccine in 2009. They had it was an eight cards effort by the way for you okay so we're stable economy stable everybody when they came out of that vaccine i took photos i blogged about there were lines around the block It looked like a star wars movie and why would i not agree with that? I thought we had consensus no i mean but just that the point is is that these anti-vaxxers, the people that don't want to get vaccinated. It's a very small number of people. It is pretty small group yeah I think so too but he thinks it's a bigger number than it is however excuse me anti-vaxxers? I think it's limited uh the number of people who will stand in line for the vaccine on day one...I'm getting mixed results! I'll hang back and wait a few days or wait of course there'll be plenty of people who will line up no doubt about it

25:03 But I think there is a little bit of apprehension, but one or two weeks or maybe a month into it everyone will be on board. I'm sure. I don't think there's any apprehension whatsoever You notice this in your note somebody sends you a letter your one-year old buddy says I just waiting for the vaccine Yeah yeah sure I think that's the gen that's the way I think Horowitz would be in line oh No, no, I will wager That he'll want to wait for one. He's a smart guy he like you he understands risk So he likes to hedge risk and he'll wait one or two with maybe one or two days Anything, he's a friend yeah, so I don't want to slam him too bad but yeah, oh I'm not slamming him I'm just saying is he'll be in line for the vaccine things were nuts Why aren't you in life of the vaccine? It'd be the way his you know what would do what

25:57 So here's Fauci on the anti-vaxxers. Do you have a worry, though Dr. Fauci that the anti vaccine movement could interfere with this timetable? Yes I do because we have to admit and realize that there is an anti vaccine movement that we've had to struggle with in this country. And I believe the solution to that would be community engagement and community outreach, to get people that are trusted by the community to go out there and explain to them of not only getting engaged in the vaccine trial, but the importance of when the vaccine is shown to be safe and effective. To actually take the vaccine because it could be life saving and it certainly would be the solution to this terrible pandemic." Yeah well he got his little thing in there you know yeah well he'll get that

26:57 They'll have everybody coming out of the woodwork saying how great it is. The whole campaign to get you to take your shot. Well, the skepticism in general is growing worldwide certainly with just trusting the numbers uh...in the UK now that the health secretary has ordered an urgent review uh...the numbers are been too high, the death count has been over counting there's a lot of different I mean everywhere people are starting to question as masks become mandatory across the globe. This is not... whenever I hear, I should probably have clipped it but the number of times i've heard on MSNBC people say no one else in the world is arguing about masks! Well yeah they are well they may not be arguing was loudly because we have free speech freedom of speech in America most other countries people are afraid to stand up and say hey I don't agree with something

27:52 But it's everywhere. Every country is now recounting, every country is enforcing masks so it's kind of this two-pronged... I want to remind you it's really bad because you see masks everywhere but the numbers are also kind of wrong Man, I don't know. I will say from my end it's over! It's peaked and going down and most people don't seem to die Most people don't even get really sick And the people who do... sorry So if you don't understand numbers of a thousand people a day dying of something I can't help that You gotta see something in perspective Until it happens to me then I'll be pissed off

28:36 No, this happened to you. I'm sorry. They could d3 everything's good to go That's what I think too. Um, I take 1010 micro gajillots per day whatever the giblets Yeah, they're really good. I love them now There's only one last clip if you want it played an hour and play maybe come in didn't play some later But Foushee does bring up the back-to-school thing and he's not he doesn't come up with what you think Oh So much to ask you, Dr. Fauci but one of the most important things on people's minds of course is going back to school and I do want to ask you that K through 12 as you know Secretary of Education this week said all children should be back in school this fall there's even a potential risk of losing federal funds then just this afternoon the governor of California said most California schools are not gonna be back in person what are individuals what our parents

29:28 to make of this? You know, obviously this is a disconcerting problem because we care so much about our children and their education. The way I look at it Judy quickly, I have looking at 40 thousand feet a default position the default position is that you should try to the best of your ability with all considerations for safety and welfare of the children and teachers We should try to get the children back to school as best as we possibly can. With that is the framework, you've got to look throughout the country that level of infection is different from region-to-region state-to-state county-to-county so they're going to be some counties where there's no problem take the kids back to school they're not in danger. In those areas where it's iffy

30:19 where you see that there's a degree of infection, then what some schools will do short of just shutting down and some authorities may decide to do that is to do something with a little bit of creativity. Maybe alternating classes spacing of the desks for children who can't do it wearing masks. Now any scientist that uses a descriptor such as iffy I'm not really buying your science. Well, he's not against it No, this is a key because the left-wing talk radio and the left wing Not to media as much but just you hear this there is this Idea that if we don't go back to school in the fall Trump loses Yeah, I can see where they think that but I think that is absolutely wrong

31:17 I'm gonna be on your side. And I think so too, I think the left is nuts! I don't see it but they can... They're convinced that if you keep the kids at home it's going to create so much anger that they're gonna vote out Trump because somehow are gonna blame Trump for this Well, at least we know what to look for Because of course everything... Blame Trump? Everything's blamed on Trump World War II? Trump! Come on everybody knows this and I must say As a side note on Orange Man Bad. For some reason, Tina's female friends feel very comfortable speaking their mind in front of me when I'm in the conversation. And they know... Because they think you're a doofus? Well they've listened to my show and I'm sure they know my opinions or how I think about things What is this My Show? What is your show? You have another show? Yeah it's The With Adam Curry Show Do you know what I mean?! Jesus! Did you hear the Tom Woods interview did you hear how I hyped you up

32:18 No, I've been waiting to hear it. Well you should listen to that. I hyped you up! Did you hype me up? Am I going to finally get a job?! Yes, you're getting a bit part, a cameo. I hyped you up man... You know we have a couple of movie producers that listen to this show Good luck Okay, we all know this is the John C. Dvorak Show My point was, they've heard me. They know my opinions yet they have no problem telling me exactly how they feel when it comes to Black Lives Matter or coronavirus but the fear of Trump where it's coming back, the cycle has returned I have heard the following if Trump gets re-elected I will load a gun and shoot myself in the head

33:05 Wow! If Trump gets re-elected, I am moving out of the country. This is the fractal. Oh sure yeah we're waiting for that. I'm still waiting. Streisand, I'm thinking of you But i was surprised to hear from one of her Jewish friends not the one you know a different one she's also a teacher in the Austin area She says, well if Trump... I'm freaking out. I have to get my passport in order which is a problem because there's a huge backlog but if Trump gets re-elected I have to get out because I think the anti-semitism and the white supremacists will will be unleashed and it's going to happen all over again she was on the ledge with this

33:53 Like really, really freaking out. I said well what do you base that on? Somebody's putting her there somebody is putting her on the ledge someone is pushing her toward like who was that someone this is the media in general is it a New York Times I think it's The New York Times maybe The Times but...I noticed my next-door neighbor the ones that you know they're just shaking their boots they stay locked up because they're supposed to you know the doctors too and they know better And I saw her out on the porch, she'll come out on the porch and she's...and I see what she's doing. She's reading The New York Times. She's one of those you know people in California that have an obligation to subscribe to The New York Times as blue rapper or you see them when they're different streets. You used to have them all over the place on this block but most of the Chinese have moved in and The New York Times has moved out. Right right well

34:44 What was interesting about her case is because we have discussed the very fine people on both sides comment before and I told her would you please go read the actual transcript. And she brought this up, she said I did what you said, I read the transcript and you're so right but I keep hearing him say very fine people in different places and that's a trope. Then she brought up from 2015 the Hillary Clinton campaign, the anti-campaign meme with a star, a red star and cash behind her at the time that was oh it's a Jewish star! An antisemitic and tropes and money

35:23 And so she brought that up. I'm like, okay but what do you think it means? Is Hillary Clinton Jewish or what is it? It doesn't matter! It's all tropes and it's scary and she was really afraid So there are a significant amount of people just from my own personal sample who have said to me...and I think people who have probably voted for Trump if he doesn't win will this all go away because then I'm okay with it And that of course... I don't understand what that means, you have to explain. Will all this go away? Meaning panic Black Lives Matter, will all this go away if Trump loses and i think that's kind of what's being pushed on people it will all turn back to normal. Maybe some of there is an element of that too That's another good theory Yeah It will all turn back to normal. I think the media is promoting that idea

36:23 Yes, yes definitely. And of course the media throws in a little bit of Russian hackers are stealing the vaccine formula. Yeah, the Russians not yet. I noticed this Russian hackers stealing vaccine they never talk about Chinese hackers Ah, I'm glad you bring this up I have a short little super cuts here about Trump's war on pretty much everything Donald Trump's war on elements of his own government Trump's war on absentee ballots Trump's War on Fauci President Trump's War on face masks Trump's war on on world order. Donald Trump's war on women, Trump's war on science, Trump's war on children President Trump's War on the truth, Trumps' war on reality, Trump's war on institutions, Trump's war in his own executive branch Donald Trump's war on the FBI, Donald Trump's war on the FBI, Trump's war on Jeff Sessions, President Trump's war on Obamacare, Donald Trump's war on law enforcement, Trump's war on the whistleblower, Trump's war on the freedom caucus

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37:57 Alright. Wow, that's an excellent catch by who did that one? That supercuts Supercuts you know the YouTube guy Supercuts yeah the dynamite now what did we not hear in that there was no war on China And that's remarkable. You don't hear much about it because, you know obviously Fauci is getting fired Trumps horrible more people die we're all gonna die 85 children are dead We're all dying here and it's crazy and horrible black lives matter But nothing about China I believe, and what you caught earlier this synchronized attacking of Fauci in multiple media properties on the same topic with the questions being reiterated is clearly coordinated. Well there's another coordination going on it is a full-on offensive against China and it is being rolled out across well across all kinds of platforms where again you'll hear some of the same terminology some of the same

39:00 Yeah, it's the same angle. So I don't know if there is someone new in the White House working on maybe Kayleigh McEnany for all I know she might be the one that coordinates this stuff! I don't know but Bill Barr... By the way there is a war on her go on Oh yeah but its not Trump's war Bill Barr the Attorney General of United States did his speech at the Gerald R Ford Foundation Library foundation or something maybe just foundation I guess Bill Barr, didn't he join the CIA during that time? Ford-Nixon era kind of. Maybe He was around So he's got buddies there That's why he did this

39:43 This was a, this is a political speech but it's more the kind of work that diplomats...the language of diplomats is being spoken here. Of course zero coverage I don't think anyone really played any clips anywhere of this speech but it was quite good and there was a lot clear messages in there that I think we should be aware of as it pertains to China. So here he is first introducing his the general issues that the administration has with China. I'm privileged to speak here today about what may prove to be the most important issue for our nation and the world

40:22 in the 21st century and that is the United States response in the global ambitions to the global ambitions of the Chinese Communist Party. The CCP rules with an iron fist over one of the great ancient civilizations of the world it seeks to leverage the immense power productivity ingenuity of the Chinese people to overthrow the rule-based international system and make the world safe for dictatorship. How the United States responds will have historic implications, and will determine whether the United States and its liberal democratic allies will continue to shape their own destiny

41:10 or whether the CCP and its autocratic tributaries will continue to control the future. So when he says they're breaking the rules-based international system, that is synonymous with the liberal international economic order which I think we've talked about that? Yeah well actually The Joint Chief of Staff's guy, Miley... Oh right. ...gave a speech we had a speech about how it set up and how they deal with it and how they run it. And very blunt about it. And we also had Ray recently say that this there are going to be a series of these speeches by different high-end guys including Pompeo I guess will be next. Well you know... Pompeo has already done a number of speeches anti Chinese speeches this stuff is not being covered by anybody

42:02 And you're nailing it because that is the next clip as Barr clearly shows this is a whole of government initiative. Several weeks ago, the National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien spoke about the CCP's ideology and global ambitions He declared and I agree that The days of American passivity and naivete regarding the people's Republic of China Why would he use the word naivete? What an interesting choice. What's a better word? I don't know, I mean...

42:39 Corrupt? What he's implying of course is that we're... That corrupt is what he's implying. Well I mean, what he's implying as a naivete is that we're just sitting around with our thumbs up our asses thinking everything's gonna be fine if we just do it China says yes oh that's why its diplomatic language I would have preferred were sitting around with their thumbs up our asses or whistling Dixie! ...that the days of American passivity and not naivete regarding The People's Republic Of China are over And last week, the FBI Director Chris Wray described how the CCP pursues its ambitions through nefarious and even illegal conduct including industrial espionage theft extortion cyber attacks and malign influence activities. In the coming days

43:29 You will hear from Secretary Mike Pompeo, who will sum up what is at stake for the United States and the free world. Now Chris Wray told me that shortly after his speech last week one of the leaders of the Chinese Communist Party pronounced that his speech was particularly disgusting I told him that i was going to aim today to be despicable. But, I'll settle for especially disgusting." I think the message is pretty clear when you're saying that as the Attorney General. I am intending on being very disgusting towards China today this is bigger than then the coverage it's received in my opinion

44:15 The lack of coverage of this by the media is shameful, but it just tells you that the media as I... Is all in. It's all in for China. They've been taken over and they're not trustworthy if you want to believe everything, you want to read the New York Times? You might as well be just reading Chinese propaganda As sorry that is Well Barr is going to take it to one more level here And he's going to imply a little bit more about the... Is this gonna bring it up a notch He's gonna crank it up a notch yes and he's going to..it some kind of So he says two things in here, but there's also some this whole of government approach. I think he's mirroring and he would like the United States to do the same as China? Well you'll hear... The general secretary of Chinese Communist Party Xi Jinping who has centralized power to a degree not seen since the dictatorship of Mao Zedong now speaks openly of China moving closer to the center stage

45:12 building a socialism that is superior to capitalism and replacing the American dream with the Chinese solution. China is no longer hiding its strength nor abiding its time from the perspective of it's communist rulers, China's time has arrived The People's Republic of China is now engaged in an economic blitzkrieg When you say The Chinese are involved in it, no matter what blitzkrieg it is. You're basically calling them Nazis I mean there's a lot of different terms you could have used but saying a Blitzkrieg which was although ultimately fatal for the Germans It was quite destructive So here's Barr saying you guys are Nazis! Has arrived the People's Republic of China is now engaged

46:02 in an economic blitzkrieg, an aggressive orchestrated whole of government indeed whole-of-society campaign to seize the commanding heights of the global economy and to surpass the United States as the world's preeminent technological superpower. So it's the whole of society and I, it's my belief that Barr wants the United States to also have a whole-of-society response to what China is doing as that will come up later. This one these coordinated terms but next just make even more fun he goes after what he will call the collaborators

46:46 Which I'm pretty sure is also a callback to the collaborators with the Nazis in World War II. Oh, for sure! Let's hear who they are! All too often for the sake of short-term profits American companies have succumbed to that influence even at the expense of freedom and openness in the United States Sadly examples of American business bowing to China or Legion Take Hollywood. Hollywood's actors, producers and directors pride themselves on celebrating freedom and the human spirit And every year at the Academy Awards Americans are lectured about how this country falls short

47:30 of Hollywood's ideals of social justice. But Hollywood now regularly censors its own movies to appease the Chinese Communist Party, the world's most powerful violator of human rights. This censorship infects not only the versions of movies that are released in China but also many that are shown in the United States theaters to American audiences. Whoa! You got butt-slapped! And you wonder why the media is not interested in covering this But wait, but wait there's more collaborators Hollywood is far from alone and kowtowing to the PRC America's big tech companies have also allowed themselves to become pawns Apple Chinese influence

48:22 In the year 2000, when the United States normalized trade relations with China President Clinton hailed the new century as one in which liberty will be spread by cell phone and cable modem. Instead over the course of the next decade American companies such as Cisco helped Chinese communists build The Great Firewall of China, the world's most sophisticated system for internet surveillance and censorship Over the years, corporations such as Google Microsoft Yahoo and Apple have shown themselves all too willing to collaborate with the CCP. For example, Apple recently removed the news app Quartz from its App Store in China after the Chinese government complained about the coverage of Hong Kong democracy protests

49:15 Apple also removed the apps for virtual private networks, which had allowed users to circumvent the Great Firewall and eliminated pro-democracy songs from the Chinese music store. Meanwhile, the company announced that it would be transferring some of its iCloud data to servers in China despite concerns that the move would give the Communist Party easier access to emails text messages and other user information stored in the iCloud And it didn't stop there. He went on to talk about what Apple would and would not do to help law enforcement, not that I agree with Bill Barr's idea of we should be able to have a warrant and break encryption but he is very clear on the collaborators, le collaborateurs, the NSBers

50:08 bad actors in our country. I can see why the media is not covering this because they're collaborators too Well here it comes, this-I think this next short piece is the warning shot to people at tech companies people in Hollywood and certainly people in the media America's corporate leaders might not think of themselves as lobbyists you might think for example that cultivating a mutually beneficial relationship is just part Guangxi, a system of influential social networking necessary to do business in the PRC. But you should be alert

50:46 to how you might be used and how your efforts on behalf of a foreign company or government could implicate the Foreign Agents Registration Act. FARA does not prohibit any speech or conduct, but it does require those who are acting as agents of foreign principles to publicly disclose that relationship and their political or other similar activities by registering with the Justice Department allowing the audience to take into account the origin of the speech when evaluating credibility. I think that's a big F you because the Foreign Agent Registration Act is, isn't that what got Manafort on Rikers Island? It's like okay, you didn't register properly but you are lobbying and that can go for so many companies, so many media people! Oh yeah

51:43 And they know they should be registered. They know they should be registered and they're taking money because that's the thing if you take money and then you say anything about, you know promoting in this case China if it is not illegal to do that but if you are not registered than you can get into trouble see Paul Manafort And then the final collaborateur is easy to guess. It's academia. The Chinese Communist Party also seeks to infiltrate, censor or co-opt American academic and research institutions For example dozens of American universities host Chinese government funded Confucian institutes

52:24 He says Confucian. I'm pretty sure it's Confucius, but the term Confucian is correct if he's describing them but anyway just a...I thought it was weird they didn't say Confucious Institute. Yes, the Confucius Institute. Yeah yeah I don't know why he did that. His government funded Confucian institutes which have been accused of pressuring host universities to silence discussion or cancel events on topics considered controversial by Beijing. Universities must stand up for each other, refuse to let the CCP dictate research efforts or suppress diverse voices

53:03 support colleagues and students who wish to speak their minds, and consider whether any sacrifice of academic integrity or freedom is worth the price of appeasing the CCP's demands. In a globalized world American corporations and universities alike may view themselves as global citizens rather than as American institutions. But they should remember that what allowed them to succeed in the first place was the American free enterprise system, the rule of law and the security afforded by America's economic technological and military strength." So with the Confucius Institutes

53:49 the whole of government and hopeful whole-of-society approach of the Trump administration because we have FBI Director Wray, we've got Secretary of State Pompeo. I saw the Pompeo speech but nothing new. It's just really not as interesting anything as Barr but our friends there who are financed by what's this American thought leaders it's the who were The Epoch Times They're the anti-CCP, the Falun Gong guys. Exactly so they're in on this because you'll hear very similar type of messaging here from Rochelle Peterson and she is from the National Association of Scholars

54:33 Which could be a total front for something. I didn't dive too deep in it, but i did think her couple of clips here about Confucius Institutes and how they work and where they are is interesting so first she'll explain what the Confucius Institute is. Confucius institutes are Chinese government funded centers that are on American college campuses as well as other college campuses around the world These are basically little nodes of the Chinese government on campus teaching Chinese Communist Party approved propaganda packaged in curriculum using teachers that are vetted and selected by the Chinese government, paid by the Chinese government.

55:13 and using materials that are being sent over by the Chinese government. So they are little nodes of influence from the Chinese Communist Party, and they are basically infecting American higher education and putting a quash on academic freedom and challenging the integrity of our schools And these are everywhere? I checked. Well, they're yeah they're kind of everywhere but they're not as everywhere as they were a few years ago there's shutting them down left and right A lot at the height there were 110 Confucius Institutes just in the United States There were more than 1000 across the world

55:54 500 Confucius classrooms at the K-12 level, mostly at high schools but also elementary schools. Which is really alarming when you think of Chinese Communist Party selected teachers going into elementary school and teaching our school age children So more than 100 Confucius Institutes, that number is going down now that Confucius Institutes have come to the forefront. They're facing a backlash We've really woken up as a society to the risks that China is posing and that Confucius Institutes in particular pose Right now there are 75 Confucious Institutes In operation in the United States and all told since they launched

56:33 in 2005 at the University of Maryland, 45 Confucius Institutes have closed in the U.S., which is really a victory that I'm very happy to celebrate. So both my stepdaughters went to universities that had Confucius Institutes, University of Texas and University of Arkansas. The University of Texas they cut their ties so that's one of the 45 that have been shut down. Arkansas seems to be alive and well. What are they doing? Watch for the keywords! We've seen the United States as a country and a lot of the rest of world also just wake up to the realization that China has been using a whole of government approach, sometimes even a whole-of-society approach towards infiltrating the West. Towards trying to penetrate our institutions and work within them from inside to turn them into

57:23 favor of China to turn them against our own values. And that is exactly what's been happening with our colleges and universities, with Confucius Institutes but also with the Chinese Students and Scholars Association, with a Thousand Talents Plan, with a number of prongs and approaches that the Chinese government has taken towards our colleges and universities The most interesting part of this I feel is, and it's probably analogous to how it's worked in research and other places. Is how the money flows through these universities? And I think that's worth listening to this for. Well the money flows from China to the university. The Hanban will cover the operating costs usually its $150,000 in grants per year

58:13 Just for operating costs the teachers are paid directly by the Han ban that money doesn't even have to flow through the university They're getting their salaries straight from the Chinese government, but the Han Ban is sending over free textbooks and other supplies of the Confucius Institute might need The Hanban likes to advertise that universities put in 50% of the costs of a Confucius Institute. But if you look at that really closely and break down where they're getting that, really what that means is the university's donating some office space and use up some classrooms a professor or administrator, add on few duties as the co-director of the Confucius Institute. And that's what makes this so attractive to colleges and universities they're essentially getting Chinese classes provided at no cost to them. They have the opportunity to offer credit to students who sign up for these classes charge students tuition for a class whose costs are being paid by the Chinese government it's a big

59:11 money-making initiative. Once a university has the Confucius Institute, it establishes a close relationship with the Chinese government by way of the Hanban. Pretty soon you see the college president going on speaking tours in China and getting feted at lavish dinners Pretty soon you see other professors making trips to China, additional Chinese students enrolling at that university. The levers of money really start flowing once a university gets the Confucius Institute so it's not just the money that the institute itself brings in its these host of other benefits that come along once they establish that relationship

59:51 I think we should have our own Confucian Institute if it comes with trips to China lavish dinners and like I kind of like that. We're dry up our alley! Yeah, I'll provide a little bit of office space for you no problem I got some here final... Some Chinese guy into the fifth bedroom there Final clip of course they're crap by the way when they talk about an all-a whole-of-society approach The way I see that is something that can't be done in this case remember when We were angry at the French and we renamed french fries Freedom Fries. Yeah, that's about as far as we go! That's a whole of society approach for America I don't think there's any chance we're gonna have any kind of you know kung-fu food instead of Chinese food or... it is not going to happen

1:00:42 It's everything's nice. I mean, and you think about just the just Trump shiting the media with calling it the Kung flu? I think he did that two or three times. He didn't have watching everybody get bent out of shape defending to Chinese and China says CCP in the rest of it is just like I think you're it's one of these funny things where I think this is a good point where you can start making the lists Not like I want to make lists, but I do make lists. You can already put together a list of people that are pretty much on the Chinese side of things when it comes down to it and you can... It's the way we used to identify spooks who used during some during that era when Dianne Feinstein was being spied on even though she was they had an intelligence committee at the time? And they were

1:01:36 And it became a big deal with these different reporters, Richard Engel being one of them. Taking the side of the CIO we shouldn't be looking at these documents anyway or people that are saying stuff like media... Media people saying oh you don't want to look at Wikileaks! It's illegal! Yeah if you're if you're a spy if your assigned up CIA member You're not supposed to look at WikiLeaks I think we should start to maintain some lists actually. Well that way you can when we do clips, we can say oh this guy's like a either a dupe or a stooge from the CCP A dupe or a stooge one of the two all right now the CCP of course is slippery the Slippery Bandits over there so they

1:02:30 They are going to go through something that all terrorists do, not calling them terrorists but kind of making a connection. They're rebranding! Colleges and universities are closing down their Confucius Institutes in large numbers but I'm not totally convinced that they have actually closed the institutes. Um...I think there's a lot of evidence that they're pretty much rebranding their institutes all the more so now that the Hanban, the Chinese government agency that oversees Confucius Institutes is itself going through a rebranding process. It's being renamed to the Ministry of Education Center for Language Exchange and Cooperation and it's actually spinning off the Confucius Institutes to a separate organization new organization called The Chinese International Education Foundation

1:03:15 that is supposed to be a non-profit, and this is the Han Bon's attempt to stymie the criticism of these being run by the Chinese government. I suspect Confucius Institutes will operate pretty much exactly as they have operated in the past but colleges and universities are going to start rebranding their Confucius Institutes breaking up those programs and scattering them among newly created centers I think this is something that we're going to have to watch very closely as Confucius Institutes continue to generate criticism. Yeah, and i'm sure there'll be some expose on the Thousand Talents program and apparently there's only dozens of investigations right now they're investigating NASA they're investigating NIH especially the NIH investigation for corrupt

1:04:10 researchers or research that has not been disclosed, or double-dipping on the research. All of this will come up eventually. Yeah it's coming out and what... I guess but part... Not if Biden gets in! Well no, hello? Yeah not mentioned much in regard to China but there's a lot of Silicon Valley money now going to India taking away from China. I am just presuming or hedging maybe as as a just in case. China is also starting to attack India, no one's really talking about that or at least not a lot in our mainstream. No so we can't get a lot of stuff to deconstruct? There are no clips I mean there's New York Times article how slanted will that be you know but they...we'll see what happens there but it's pretty aggressive what was taking place pretty aggressive

1:05:07 And then the final thing I have, this actually came over... it's just a funny clip. This is the guy Andrew Marr in the UK? Not Andrew Marr but anyways last name is Marr. Marr is his talk show and he has the ambassador to the UK, the Chinese ambassador to the UK Liao Zemin on the show and he wants the ambassador to explain the footage that everyone is now probably seeing, the drone footage of what apparently is Uyghur prisoners who are blindfolded kneeled head-shaven you know being herded onto trains. Did you see this footage?

1:05:52 I did not. It's pretty graphic and it, i guess has been verified that...I don't know who did it or where its coming from but he brought in the Chinese ambassador to the UK and said alright you gotta take a look at this footage and tell me what's going on here now here is a guy who knows that one wrong word will have his head cut off let's look at some very disturbing drone footage that has been widely shared around the world This is almost certainly over northern China, over Xinjiang. Can you tell us what is happening here? I cannot see this view...this is not the first time you show me. I still remember last year when you showed me what was happening in Xinjiang. Let me tell you this

1:06:40 Xinjiang, have you been to Xinjiang yourself? No I never have. You know Xinjiang is regarded as the most beautiful place in Xinjiang there's a Chinese saying...you do not know how big China is Ambassador that is not beautiful coverage however is it? You know Xinjiang that is exactly what I'm going to tell you since 1990 Xinjiang has completely changed because of this thousands of terrorists attacked. That was 10 years ago, can I ask you why people are kneeling blindfolded and shaven? This is for the hair trade obviously! And being led to trains in modern China what is going on there ?I do not know where you get this videotape you know sometimes you have a transmission your transfer over prisons and prisoners you know in any country

1:07:27 But just what is happening here Ambassador? I do not know why did you get this. These have been going around the world, they've been authenticated by Western intelligence agencies and by Australian experts who say these are Ouija people. Let me tell you this... He should learn how to say look! So-called Western intelligence keeping up make there's a false acquisition against China One million more people have been persecuted. How many populations does Xinjiang have?

1:08:06 40 years ago it's a four or five million, now it is 11 million people and people say you know we impose We have an ethnic cleansing but the population has doubled in the forty years I'm so sorry to interrupt but according to your own local government statistics The population growth in Uyghur jurisdictions in that area has fallen by 84% between 2015 and 2018. 84%. That's not right. I give you official figure, you ask me? I gave this figure as a Chinese ambassador. This is very special in the past 40 years, Uyghur population increase, the population of Xinjiang increased to double

1:08:52 The population doubled. So there's no so-called restriction of the population, no so called forced abortion and so on. Why are you laughing? Shut up! Classic. Shut up! Wow man poor guy. Ambush they would do it they'd do that BBC likes to do this as their style of journalism we never do something like that where its too rude No we try to ambush Fauci Yeah, I was just ambushed or keep asking the same question over and over again. Exactly! Oh my goodness... Okay now that's kind of what i have on China they're still asshole as far as I'm concerned and we're at war We are definitely- look it so you just heard about all that integration They've snuck up on us man It's been to at least 20 years if not 30 years in the making then we do need a whole society approach

1:09:54 Well, not unless people start paying attention and without the media which has spent all this time hounding Trump trying to get Joe Biden to be president and put China back in charge. It's not gonna happen! Yeah we gotta start marching... We actually do need the media for this. Okay you have to start marching journalists out or something yeah? You know, we have to shame them publicly when they've been in cahoots well but notice Barr didn't say the media it was only Hollywood tech and academia Could the media be next? Could they be on deck?" Well, a lot of people have them on deck. We do! Yes... that's why we're the best podcast in the universe and with that... Emphasizing the word podcast I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you The Man Who Put The Sea In The Confucian Institute John C Dvorak! Morning to you Mr Adam Curry also in the morning to all

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1:12:27 Well, those guys. So if you want a piece of that action sign up for NoGenderSocial.com I bitched and moaned at a bunch of them. I said this is becoming like Reddit! And so everyone comes in oh no it's not like reddit. Reddit is bad Big in the morning to Jordan 33 who brought us the artwork for episode 1260. The title of that was pre-decisional, which is where the fourth stimulus package is at this moment it's pre-decisional and by the way I spoke to the former New York banker he says uh... the only thing that's that that is stopping the fourth package is how much the states are going to get

1:13:11 Because the states are in such dire straits with all of the pensions and and health care for the government workers, for the teachers. It's gotta be the bond collapse that we've been predicting for the last decade. Well... And I said so that's the bond collapse? He says it's not gonna happen because they're going to pump so much money into the states it won't be funny. Yeah. That's apparently he's right is the bond collapse doesn't look like it's gonna happen. Oh by the way back to the no agenda chat room The thing that bugs me when somebody goes like this- Then they have some example of something I didn't like but that way they ever listen to the show to begin with wait a minute There's people on no agenda social who say I used to listen to the show until Yeah, well that's totally read it. That's totally the reddit people who are in there which is fine. Which is fine No They have to be blocked kind of block Oh blocked individually yeah You can do whatever you want absolutely that's the whole point

1:14:16 Yeah, I'm gonna put a block list together. I'm going to advise everyone to block these people. Okay! Get rid of them... Now you're talking. I would like uh..I enjoy having you in No Agenda Social so I'll try it. Oh well i won't be there long if these Reddit people take over. Okay okay we'll work on it. I'm sorry. Uh....I don't know what to say Now, thanking for the artwork Jordan 33 the as I said pre-decisional episode 1260. This was one that popped it was the best...I don't know what there were other things but nothing really came together into something cohesive this was the orange man bad Nike T-shirt with 33 as the number? It really did stand out yeah

1:14:56 And the reason for the orange man bad is now that the sports teams can put their own social justice slogan on instead of their name. Some basketball player has got to put that on there! I hope so, yeah, of course it'd be beautiful. Hey, I just wanted to read a little thing here hold on a second... something really exciting this as we're talking about value for value and the show One of our producers, let me see if I can find... who I cannot name and you'll know why in a second. I draw comics for DC Comics and have been working on a huge Batman Joker series coming out in August The book is a huge deal for DC and they're betting this will be their biggest seller of the year. I ended up drawing a bunch of different variant covers

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1:16:24 No, thanks for nothing comic book guy. I'm gonna send it to you. I'm gonna send you I'm gonna forward you the Yeah, but I want a okay. I want an autographed copy of one of these covers me too that this is how I mean? I'm not a comic book guy But I know the comic book people kind of get dull jitty about stuff like this particularly if I want to mention Okay, yeah I agree. You're totally right. I just want to mention another... I used the Dan McCall piece for the newsletter. Oh that's right and that was a good piece! What was it again? That was a woman... The mask! Yeah yeah oh is that was a dynamite piece. He did one with Trump in the 60s lettering. Oh wait isn't that...

1:17:15 Hmm that was McCall. Okay, all right he doesn't do a lot he's new He's kind of new I don't know who he is hmm well It's beautiful we appreciate it no agenda art generator comm is just one of those many Many great producer initiatives that I'm sorry what? I should say McCall did he did one piece That is just every time I see how they just look at this where you only has about eight pieces. He submitted and But he did a piece where that Cleveland Indian, that big smiling dumb looking Indian. That's the mascot for the Cleveland Indian baseball team is on the hat called Chief Wahoo or whatever his name is He did the same chief only as Elizabeth Warren

1:18:01 I think it's beautiful. I made a mistake or there's something wrong in the credits which i thought i had fixed, I think was Darren O'Neill who did the art it wasn't Jordan 33 yeah I'm sorry it was Darren O'Neal once why is it say here? Yeah but I just refreshed that I guess it was stuck in there I'm sorry I'm sorry Darren It was okay. We just made him sweat for a good five minutes. Yeah, he's seething I know it was see thing well eventually the troll room almost reached out and punched me in the face It was like why is the troll room scrolling so fast? Oh, I see what's going on Thank you man by the way wasn't it wasn't McCall who did the no it was John 33 yeah George McCall did the football helmet

1:21:02 You asked. Yeah, I did ask here we go Oh there's no winning We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere but we laugh a lot now everyone hug and share a secret you've got karma Now for anonymous who comes in from Augsburg Deutschland Hallo Deutschland wie geht es dir? has a very long note about the CCP. And let me see what I can get out of this, we don't have to read the whole thing. John and Adam please keep me anonymous while I give you some perspectives on China. I'm a German based in Tokyo whenever I want to know about China I love speaking to Germans who are in Japan but he says I think I have the right to call out crimes against humanity when I see them

1:21:49 Well, yes. China's new Hong Kong security law targets not only people in Hong Kong or Chinese people but all people in the entire world Yes I think that is pretty well established now that even if you say something bad outside of China If you step foot on Chinese territory which could include Hong Kong You could be arrested and thrown into gulag If the Chinese have their way, their territorial limits of enforcement are temporary nuisance. In the long run they want to establish Westphalian system of sovereign nation states." I've heard this term do you know what that means? The Westphalian system? Yeah it is refers to a... It refers to them this system that first started developing in Germany in his early pre-democracy. It's..I know it's a historical term and you can look it up

1:22:38 Okay, but it's it's a roots of everything. It's a root of modern democracy okay? Well that makes sense because he says More generally all people Calling for one world government are working against the Westphalian system Which is right now akin to working in China's interest well surprise surprise If Democrats and other leftists are calling for unity, they may do it for other reasons but it has the same effects. Yes that's certainly a political viewpoint I think is correct with China the CCP is the actual problem not the Chinese people." I disagree there! I used to think that too this probably 90 million Chinese are member of the CCP That's your whole-of-society approach

1:23:26 And all of society has got to stand up against that. And the Chinese people, I have no specific problem, I'm generalizing but they're pretty rude and they think all this space is theirs so i'm not bigoted, I'm just against them That's not racist, is it? I can just be against... Seems like it. It seems like its racist. I'm trying no to be racist but it's hard. Please support the people of Chinese origin like the guys from Niu Tang Dynasty Network The world needs these! The CCP is closest thing that can wreak massive havoc worldwide and deserves to be called evil So it indeed the enemy the West and allies can be comfortable with Well, we'll be the only people yelling in the darkness of podcasting my friend But here we are please make sure there are geishas and sake at the roundtable now He's not on the list for nighting so I mean. I've highlighted him We can just make him

1:24:16 Suranonymous as well because there's no I mean, I don't know what to do here. It's obviously an instant in tonight situation Yeah, so that will just you know what they do? I think we just put it in a bands So into bands until we hear what what but what he asked me for I would that's my recommendation Okay, we will wait for that In the meantime We will give you a big China's asshole Donald Trump don't trust China China is asshole. There you go Alright, so I have Oh, geez. What? Okay this is uh... This next one is actually a hundred dollar donation that I look back on the note I sent to Eric and it's 100. It's not on this list for here. I'm sorry what am I do I need to take any action what's going on yeah you need to take some action! What do I need to do?! That's $1,000 isn't it's not 1,000 its 100

1:25:20 from Brandon? Yeah, Brandon. Nice try! Okay all right so then we move on to Michael Thomas or do you want to read Brandon's notes since were here anyway? No I mean Brandon's note is that this may be later in the show but it's not for this segment just as my screw-up too Look, I went back to look to note. I sent to Erica the checks Yeah And I put a thousand instead of 100 Oh my goodness wishful thinking so So this you can bet that she could be revised by $900 You can bet that Brandon was sitting there going what where's my PayPal? Let me see what

1:25:59 Can you imagine that? It was a check. He sent in the check. I had to, before I slipped a zero behind my 100 what's going on with those guys! Are you also in charge of corona COVID testing in California by any chance because you're perfect for it yeah we have ten times many cases as tests all right Michael Thomas is on the list from Fort Wayne Indiana 355 Adams appearance on the Tom Wood show where I had reminded me that I donated to the best podcast this Adam Thank you for going on that show. Yes and Donated the best podcast for far too long. I don't know if it's

1:26:41 How you two met but I do remember emailing Adam about Tom's request for help with his podcast audio years ago where made my last donation. In fact, we talked about that on the show and I remembered it quite well. I remembered that did you help him out? I did gave him a few pointers, you know podfather like stuff Forgive me, Podfather for I have sinned. It's been 355 weeks since my last donation this dollar for each week I've been a douche does not satisfy my debt for the value I've received all these years But it takes uh...I take a promise that it will settle my outstanding obligations and join the roundtable soon Thank you both for all you do to keep my amygdala right-sized and thank you for the dames in the nights

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1:28:25 To push me to knighthood. Finally after making a few other donations back in April around my birthday I'd like to now be known as Sir 22 of the PNW, that would be the Pacific Northwest Request some Corona at the table? I hear it has antibodies for the Rona Jingles okay he wants Obama Stuttering if-if-if. I think i have that one somewhere Trump aroused, oh it's one of those days okay trump aroused let me guess Biden whole load yeah Biden whole load and some jobs karma for my co-workers at Boeing who are getting laid off this month and in the next month he actually sent me a longer email

1:29:07 It's really bad. The 747 production is entirely stopped, I think they're only planning on making seven 737s? 2020 is a huge cut just as a chasm has been created in aviation it's going to be very very very bad people aren't gonna want to fly that much anymore It's going to be bad. So yes, of course we have some jobs karma for you. If we if we fall for it was hard to get it aroused and it is hard to get it aroused but we got it aroused I'm gonna give me the whole load jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs karma

1:29:57 Mark Mensick in Arvada came here at 348.16, he's a knight! And he did send an email in which I will refer to with this donation I joined the roundtable nice of esteemed Damon Nice accounting attached a truly humbling honor I would like to be dubbed Sir Mile High Mark okay I don't know if he's listed as that Mile high mark. Yes, I have it on my notes as such well there you go if it pleased the caterer of the roundtable I'd appreciate a medium rare ribeye and a good night Imperial red IPA at the Feast of the Dames and Knights Okay So he's got that got the medium rare rib eye and good night imperial IPA It has been

1:30:45 Red period red red and then he wants some jingles Sorry about that. Mm-hmm, but they're foamer. Maybe he's got more to write so I'm gonna give you the jingles in it Yeah, is good. Yep foamer sharp than mint tulips and China is asshole Okay, that's foamer. Mm-hmm. You lose priest throw in some job karma for my son Tom and human resource goat karma from my son and His wife Brittany is sometime and Britney are expecting a child in November nice No agenda shows provided the balance and reason analysis that they keep me grounded during the kovat crisis I can honestly say that without your biweekly Thursday shows I would be much the worst for wear now

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1:33:11 Yeah, thank you very much. To all the listeners receiving checks from the government take notice jobs karma works consider donating now more than ever because the universe rewards those who give value for value my wife My wife and I welcomed a baby girl born in March during peak of this pandemic what fun? And my father is battling cancer successfully, but visiting him with our newborn has not been possible due to the Rona. So I humbly request the following jingles F Cancer for my dad another jobs karma to ensure my new role stays in good standing and thank you for the incredible work you both do on the show love and light Julian. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs

1:33:58 karma Joe diver dive er neo in Cornelius North Carolina a lot of North Carolina people yeah the show really think that's great 300 wine country hey you know North Carolina today Kanye West doing his first presidential run rally in North Carolina. It's hopping! North Carolina is trending, it's trending Anyway, he's uh... He writes. First off I want to thank John for the accent that accompanied the note with my last donation. I loved it! Is that the one where I did the tough guy voice? I think so yeah. Is he from North Carolina? I don't know. He liked it. I loved it. I donated almost a month ago today and forgot to ask for a dedouching. Please de-doosh me. You've been de-dooshed

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1:35:46 Wright turned his argument against them using the same idea, but with Biden's terrible traits. He barked off and urged that we continue to do the work! He even quoted it in this comment. I felt like i was living a noodle gun episode. Thankfully it did reveal those I know that are not buying into current sheepish BS Could I please get the Italian accent noodle gun jingle with some goat karma? Yeah, yeah. And I'm sorry it's South Carolina Where we're caught yes, that truffle room finally got cut up exactly You've got

1:36:47 I'm surprised that doesn't get requested more actually. It's kind of good, it is pretty funny. I like it. Kristen Smith and Blight in Lincolnshire UK 333 33 good donations today thank you nice notes there's not much to say for the thousand dollar one there's not much to say from the Gitmo Nation East it's time for us to mask up and hope that we don't catch the retreating virus we can now go to a bar or restaurant mask free But no, we can't get groceries without one? Huh. It's interesting that here like in the US they are promoting the number of cases rather than the number of deaths

1:37:24 It did make me chuckle when John put our numbers in the newsletter. The problem in the UK is that the Daily Mail is more ridiculed in mainstream media than Fox News is in the US, just remember we have to pay a fee for just having a TV! Hello? If you're watching from another country I'm trying my best to hit people on the mouth so here's a donation to make life easier, you both do such a better job than I ever could playing the No Agenda show makes so many people realize the lame-ass media is... she writes US spelling because you instead of arse, uh, media aren't letting them know the truth. Dealers' Choice on The Jingles as you seem surprised that I didn't ask for anything last time sometimes? Uh, the message more than jingles well this is true this is true Chris Dan could be a guy very possible

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1:39:12 Neil Chapman and Exeter Devon he becomes our first executive associate executive producer He's also a Brit two three four five six I TM to both of you for the great shows of late You're helping me stay sane Could I get some health cover from my dad as he is going to be in the hospital this week for eye surgery? Keep up the excellent analysis. He's getting what kind of surgery? Yeah, I'm sorry What kind of surgery yeah what kind of eye surgery yes, of course we have that lots of it for him you've got karma Tristan onions Martins Sir Onion Knight from Milwaukee. And this is another interesting twist here, This was not listed on the back office note but Tristan Onion Martin says ITM assuming I moved the beads correctly on this abacus this donation should bring me to knighthood instead of Tristan onion Martins i would like to now be known as sir onion night of the good land up north up norder

1:40:13 Pending availability at the roundtable, I would love to see brazzy bites and some of that good old Wisconsin string cheese. With the whole 2020 situation, I've had too many- uh, I have too many things I need to say. I will try to support brevity. F the media, f mask and f the noodlers! My smokin' F'ing gorgeous wife, Mrs. Onion could use some jobs karma! The missus and I recently just celebrated our 18th anniversary although i have been trying for months to get her in the no agenda club i fear i have been unsuccessful thus far this is my tertiary objective for our next 18 years For myself? I'd be happy with some of that good creamy stereo goat karma

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1:41:41 Says ITM when my blood oath successfully got me a Twitter follow back from the pot father I knew I had to send a donation sooner than planned All hail the Almighty Podfather Listen, there's some bitching on Twitter and one of them was Curry only follows nights. I'm like no I don't I haven't really followed I don't haven't really added to my followers in a very long time except sometimes someone says something Nasty about me. I won't block him. I won't reply. I'll just follow them as I think it confuses people Why did he follow me? That's weird. Well, that's an interesting approach Yeah So I followed sir seed sitter and this is the result well Maybe you should start following everybody Anybody wants to be followed by Adam

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1:43:24 And some podcasting goat karma would be much appreciated. Next donation, I reach knighthood and of course we'll do that! Jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's vote for jobs! You've got karma. But i gave in extra jobs karma because after all you're a podcaster so... You need it now We have something here don't we? Don't we have something we want to do here There's a make good on the note from Eric. Yeah, this yes This is a special request from Sam Lewis Before we actually before the special requests I just want to make sure that thank these producers and executive producers and associate executive producers for supporting and producing at that level show 1261

1:44:14 Indeed sorry I was blowing my nose while you were saying that and for those who are executive producers in associate stop a second we gotta have a Powwow pow wow pow Wow You're gonna blow your nose Blow your nose around the mic cuz this is funny. I blew no oh, I didn't hear it No because I had my mute pedal. I'm not gonna let I'm not gonna blow my nose well. Oh yeah, so now I do it all the time Yeah with you get you get a kick out of me know Hey, these executive producer and associate executive producer credits are real ones. Please use them where appropriate and institutions that know what these are about will recognize them if there's any question whatsoever we'll be happy to vouch for you thank you for producing as Executive Producers Associate Executive Producers episode 1261 of the NOAA Gender Show the best podcast in universe now with a new website

1:45:06 Damn good one to this everything you wanted to do on that website including a player You can search the transcripts We've got even synchronized troll room comments during the show if you want listen to it live The download link is back. Everything is great Thank You producer Tim Something coming for him Now this came in a few weeks ago and there was a donation attached to it, and we had promised on this day to do this special request. A request from Sam Lewis who says I'm a Knight of the Noah Jenner Roundtable have been a listener and monthly donor since 2008 way back in 2010. I hit my smoke and I girlfriend in the mouth since then she's become a Dame with her own $1,000 donation yesterday was their 43rd birthday at to celebrate I planned on taking into the Sacramento gun show but it was suddenly canceled

1:45:54 Just completing a firearm safety class. She is now in the market for self-protection any suggestions Well, you should go to know agenda social comm and ask people there they have much more skilled at that We have two wonderful homeschooled human resources together, Silver and Smith ages six and two. We're going through some bumpy times right now as 2 1⁄2 years ago I committed to remodeling our house doing the work myself. I've realized it's harder than it looks No kidding! And I'm a dude named Ben that didn't have construction experience Whoa! Only a love for tools. Yeah, a family member contractor of 30 years offered his help unfortunately he did such a piss poor job that I had to redo much of the work that and the Rona added six months to the project through it all Sarah and our kids have been living with their with her lefty CNN quoting mother in Reading oh my gosh this is disastrous they're not getting along i live on the construction site and visit when I can

1:46:51 There have been many days when I felt like couldn't continue the remodel and wanted to give up, but my MILF has been so supportive. We try to look at the silver lining in it all The struggle does help you appreciate your significant other moreso when times are easy Like dudes named Ben contractors are very important Problem is there's not enough of them and seems most are shady characters. I don't know dudes named Ben I don't think our shady characters There should be more of them, but my guess is they were pushed to college for a lucrative degree in gender studies. We need to refund all that wasted tuition and enroll them in vocation school! They could become plumbers and flush that gender studies degree down the same toilet they learned how to install."

1:47:27 As an aside, I'm with Trump on reducing water consumption regulation for toilets. Think about this how which uses more water a single two-gallon flush or number two job on a number 2 job or 10 flushes on a 0.8 gallon low flow toilet? Does Queen Pelosi and Lord Newsom flush ten times? I don't think so what kind of toilets do they have? Kitmo Nation deserves to know! And then finally onto the reason i made the big donation and the note that is a tad too long Sarah and I did the family planning thing sort of in reverse. After six years of being a MILF, I'd like-I'm finally ready to make Dame Sarah an M.I.L.M., Mother Id Like To Marry! So with this donation... ...I hereby ask Dame Sarah for her hand in marriage!! Thank you Adam and John! Couples that donate together have children and then get married together!!!

1:48:23 With a slide whistle assist congratulations, I hope she says yes after all that You imagine? Luckily, luckily he hounded us about this enough. That we even had a little music prepared! No it's because he mentioned this in the note like three weeks ago can you put my donation off to uh this date because I want to ask um

1:49:05 my betrothed to marry me. Yes, and I'm thinking oh god we've messed up these things so many times! We never do this right because we don't do preparation! Yeah the show's ad-libbed well except for our own content. So luckily he's smart enough i'm gonna say this and I know people if you're gonna try to pull a stunt like this You really have to be aggressive with us. You have to just hound us. Yes, and it's not because we're bad people. No! We have... In fact I will mention this. I'm going to look back here.

1:49:45 I search for him on the emails and he sent in, I think about six notes. Yeah of course of course you may even have anyone listening live. Here's starting on July 10th just for record for the record July 10th He sends a note in with the marriage proposal yeah another note on July 2nd or you send her something back on July 12 saying okay And then on the 14th he sent something and then 18th he says a note in and 19th he sends in two notes with reminder reminder I got it. And I will say, well actually the two reminders should have been on the 18th but yeah that's...I hate to say this. He and he...well But that's what you have to do if you really want to make sure. I think we would've pulled it off but then again the likelihood is about a 50-50 shot unless you do that

1:50:32 And the reason is because we have no producers of this show. We don't have a staff, that is the beauty of The No Agenda Show and I encourage you to listen to the Tom Woods episode where I reiterate how our show was put together and the importance of all producers because that's really how it works. And I was even telling The Keeper last night said, the producers they've trained themselves they know how to do things so well from clips Even sending me, if you send a link it's either queued up to the time code or someone will send a list of time codes. I mean these are this is what producers do people who say hey this is great and send me a link to a two-hour podcast no listen to this lots of good clips in here have a listen yeah so

1:51:22 So just think like a producer because that's what you are and we thank of course Sam, because that was beautiful. And we feel privileged to be part of that We hope she said yes let us know and That is typical No Agenda experience from the guy who draws Batman DC Comics covers To a guy who is a programmer and tried to build a house. It's fantastic! We are the misfits of society, I'm proud of it and you can support us by going to the following website address devorak.org slash n-a If you want to get married, you know where to go... probably not with us Our formula is this we go out, we hit people in the mouth Order! Right! Shut up, slave

1:52:19 Well, I want to do a little segment on Kaylee. Oh weekly segment Can I play the jingle since we don't have yes? It's good enough for the jingle oh okay this is good Kaylee Jingle there it is I should have her on the standby Hey, I wanted to mention about Kaylee someone had a close-up picture of her binder Did you see this? I put it in the show notes actually. Oh my god She has it must be 50 tabs

1:53:07 It's fantastic. Let me see, I think I can bring it up here. It's all these... Here, I'll tell you what some of their tabs are. You were-I think you were tagged on this? It was a Twitter post but I know you're too busy, I know we're doing the social so it's It's a candid shot and I'll just read you some of the tabs. Absurd, BLM ballot cases CDC China COVID can't read test early econ election Flynn golf Goya hatch hate health Carl, LGBT lies. Mary can't read Obama PPE privilege as in privilege reopen Russia I see schedule universities system I mean wins she is it's almost like the show notes it's like she's doing a podcast someone throw something at her she goes to the right tab BAM and she's got it! Is that one that says Carl with a K? Yes

1:54:07 Yeah, that's because it's about John Carl. Ah! The Jonathan Carl from ABC News? And Jonathan Carl is stepping down or I think his term is up as the head of the White House Press Association and so they brought him on to...and he's never liked this woman and so I think that tab is for him in case he gets a question at the end she flips through and has some nasty things to say about her right right and he is and he is a jerk so he shows up on The View And I think he sent a word out to, and i think you're going to start seeing this, that start blasting her for being a bonehead.

1:54:43 and a mean person, and no good. She's no good." So here is the attack on Kayleigh by John Carl on The View. Which is his own network right? It's ABC it's his own network. Yeah that is coincidentally. Your tenure as president of the White House Correspondents Association has ended and you've worked with 14 different press secretaries in all different administrations. You just wrote also an op-ed on this for the Washington Post, what do you say in the op-ed that we should know? Well, I'm concerned that the White House briefings have become political events. I have kind of maybe a naive old-fashioned notion that the White House press secretary is a public servant paid for by the taxpayers and the job is to provide information about what the president is doing and what the executive branch is doing but not to be a political spokesperson you are not the spokesperson for a campaign or a political party You do represent the President's views to the press

1:55:43 But you also have a duty to inform the American people through the press, which most people get most of their information from. And these press conferences have become an effort to vilify the press, to try to discredit the press and not really give much information but to give a political message of the day. I wouldn't normally pick a fight with a White House Press Secretary you know i mean except on an issue i'm asking about in a briefing but this concerns me not so much for what's happening now but I hope this doesn't become the way going forward we have to get back to the notion that the White House press secretary is ultimately a public servant and not a political spokesperson.

1:56:29 What is this all about? This is dumb. Of course, this has never been a good civil servant who was working for the American people. What is this? Did they- He's an idiot! I don't like it. This guy's really corrupt but so... But the word goes out and now we're going to see everybody blasting this woman and then take her right down to The Breakfast Club with Charlemagne Oh no! Oh God! Calling her out as a incompetent bonehead. McKinney? McNanny. Kaylee McNanny? If you're calling someone a donkey, you might want to know their name Charlevaine. Know what nanny used to mean in school. All right anyway, Kaylee is the prime example of the era we live in uh someone who was underqualified To be in the position that they are in The primary responsibility of the White House Press Secretary Is to act as a spokesperson

1:57:34 for the US government, especially in regards to the president. The problem with every single person in the Trump administration is one thing they are all scared to speak out against the president if the president is wrong they won't tell him If the President makes a mistake they wont admit he made a mistake Okay, America you cannot love your party over the country. It shouldn't matter what side you on America is in shambles This better be an ad coronavirus don't care if we Democrat or Republican hell The economy don't care if you Democrat a Republican trauma doesn't care if you Democrat a Republican being sick physically mentally emotionally spiritually those ailments Don't care If you are a democrat are republican We have a lack of leadership in this country like I've never seen before and it is showing that

1:58:15 Wow, that was a live read. He got paid for that! He didn't even know how to pronounce her name! Eh. Ah, that's shameful... It was terrible he goes on and then he also Exaggerate she made a flub by the way not shameful that he's ragging on Kaylee I don't care about that, but the fact that that he could you didn't even know her name And he's just reading a script. That ish. That's lame yeah well Anyway, he ragged on her over us a flop she made when she said school reopening

1:58:51 shouldn't involve... The science shouldn't stand in the way? Something like that. Yeah, the science shouldn't stand in the way and then she goes on about how the science is for... The wordage was the side... the science doesn't stand in the way Right She said shouldn't, she read it right And she read the wrong words and she said shouldn't instead of doesn't and he made a big stink about that Did she correct herself? Doesn't stand in the way this and then she said the science Anyways, the science confirms that you could do it. She actually is a don't forget she has a law degree she's been at PR person spokeswoman before in the White House. She was with the campaign. It just unqualified is hardly the case but we'll let it go because they're gonna see a lot of because they don't like her cuz she's too good. Let's listen to two clips I have of her one is Kaylee on The Hatch Act

1:59:49 The first was the campaign meeting in the cabinet room last month, and then the political speech in the Rose Garden this week. Can you talk about how that's been affecting your work? But your understanding of what the White House policy is for this White House as far as politics, is there any place in the White House where you think politics is inappropriate? And where do you draw the line? We act in accordance with The Hatch Act. It's well established that the president and vice president are not subject to The Hatch Act. It says this much in The Hatch Act. It says that The Hatch Act applies to executive branch employees which has defined

2:00:30 in the Hatch Act as employee meaning any individual other than the president and the vice president so his speech to the Rose Garden was entirely appropriate. The Hatch Act has nothing to do with this though. What? It has everything to do with this, go read the Hatch Act that's what you're alleging is problematic for the President. No no I'm just stating- But what your real problem was was the fact that the President gave a very good powerful speech from the Rose Garden Was the hat was the moaning with the hatchet because The trumpets sent a bill from Mar-a-Lago No, I don't know. I think it was about really stems back to the two his doing that this speech from the Rose Garden Yeah, just yes seemed seem promotional even though you proved that it wasn't well certainly not in the last show But then I think sitting around with Goya products. I didn't think oh by the way Goyer products

2:01:29 Do you know that what's in Goya products? Human people. Close! No, MSG. Oh there is MSG in everything. Well I'm not a big fan. It depends on how it's derived. I mean do you ever put mushrooms in your food? Well its different when the...when the..it says it on the container It's not just a derivative or anything, it says this... it has what is the mono-sodium glutamate. I thought that was... That's not you know? It gives me headache typically. Oh does it? Yeah but only if I get from like a restaurant I would say like Kung Food

2:02:14 Well, they very rarely put MSG in Chinese food in the Bay Area. Okay well then don't use it anyway that's my advice Of course I was just... It was an aside! It is not a customer complaint Now here is Kaylee and this is where this is her walk-off And there's something very unusual I want you to listen for it When she she's gonna answer questions or she's going into our thing and then do a walk off And then there's something strange that happens at the walk-off. Just pay very careful attention. Stop the clip for a second. Okay, so you don't know what she's talking about? She's talking about the CDC reporting So it's gonna go through the what to do that to the health services then it's gonna Go to the CD DC even though the media and Maxine Waters in particular CDC is being cut out of the loop

2:03:19 When in fact, they're not getting cut out of anything. So she's explaining it. The database public data that's been out there, I don't continue to be public. It should be public and this is all about getting more data out there, not less data and ensuring in particular that our doctors get that daily data on one thing that I'd also like to point out for everyone It's just with regard to testing. We've done more than 42 million tests, as I noted the second highest number is 12 million from India we're leading the world in testing it's a very stark contrast and the president mentioned this yesterday so i just wanted to put some additional information out there was actually CBS reporting that in 2009 under Obama Biden quotes and this is CBS reporting CDC abruptly advised states to stop testing for H1N1 flu

2:04:10 counting individual cases. So while this president surge testing under the Obama administration, they stopped testing entirely and Ron Klain vice-president Biden's former chief of staff said this it is purely a fortuity that H1N1 isn't one of the great mass casualty events in American history had nothing to do with us doing anything right? This is former VP Biden's chief of staff just had to do with luck Contrary to that, this president led the world in testing. Led the world and ventilators redistributing ventilators for therapeutics 13 vaccine candidates one going into phase three clinical trial. This response has been extraordinary and historic. We didn't pause testing the Obama Biden administration did And that was a shameful decision Thank you What happened is everyone's mouth fell open they had nothing to say for the first time in forever

2:05:09 No, then I did you went out to a crowd of that room. There was nothing You didn't hear people yelling and screaming at her they know that's what I'm saying That's because Jim Acosta and John Carl weren't there Why does that not surprise me Wow those are the two guys that do that so one down one to go? Why is John Carl leaving His term is up. Oh But it will he still be a man who would still be in there asking annoying questions, though I don't know for sure hmm. He may that's not a gig that you know the news Not really a fun gig no well You know we have a big problem with with information in In the system today, you know none of its right everything's wrong and

2:06:04 At this point it's basically a health issue. The amount of misinformation that is coming out everywhere, particularly when it comes to coronavirus and luckily the World Health Organization is going to put a stop to this Because when you have problem with misinformation, you want the World Health Organization to step in. Because they are presenting July 21st the first annual World Health Organization Infodemiology Conference What's demiology? In the context of the COVID-19 pandemic, I'm reading from the web page. The phenomenon of an infodemic has escalated to a level that requires a coordinated response! An infodemic is an overabundance of information some accurate and some not occurring during epidemic

2:07:01 Huh, so they have a webinar coming up on the 21st. Oh a webinar Mm-hmm You can register for it and the objectives are to understand the multidisciplinary nature of infodemic management Identify current examples and tools to understand measure and control control Info Demics control them Build a public health research agenda to direct focus and investment in this emerging scientific field. It's apparently a scientific field, Infodemiology! Infodemiology? Wow! And establish a community of practice and research and the participants will be experts from the fields of epidemiology and public health applied math and data science digital health technology applications

2:07:52 social and behavioral science, media studies and journalism, marketing UX & design risk communication and community engagement ethics in governance and other relevant scientific disciplines and practices. And they have a promo video! We're not just fighting an epidemic. Sorry, go ahead? I was going to say you've got to send me a link Yes it's well it's of the World Health Organization. I want to take the webinar. So July 21st is the public webinar It's a Zoom webinar You're invited 1500 CET so that'll be crap That's like 6am your time probably You may not be doing the webinar

2:08:38 6 a.m.. Your time yeah tough decision anyway how to protect yourself in the infodemic I think this would be I mean This is after all the World Health Organization the same people who recommend we wear masks The same people who recommend we wash our hands incessantly, the same people who recommend we stay a distance and afraid of other human beings. Or let's listen to how to protect ourselves in the infodemic! We're not just fighting an epidemic... ...We're fighting an infodemic This last quote from WHO Director General has been widely shared. So what is an infodemic? An infodemic is an excessive amount of information about a problem, making it difficult to identify a solution During the health emergency and infodemic can drown out reliable information And allow rumors to spread more easily impeding an effective public health response Why is it happening now? Information can spread faster than a virus

2:09:33 With rapid growth of digital communications and social media platforms, information spreads fast from online to our physical lives. And how does it affect us? Online information can negatively affect our psychology, daily lives and behaviors worsening the ongoing crisis at hand. Infodemics make it difficult to recognize accurate and reliable information that tells people what preventative actions they should take Some even promote stigma, discrimination or violence. Therefore we all play an important role to share trustworthy information and reduce disinformation Here are simple actions we can do to mitigate the infodemic Oh oh oh! Get your pen out you're gonna want this

2:10:11 I've got to pin out. Look for facts and evidence, be critical when receiving information question the source for accuracy in evidence compare with other sources 2 choose carefully share like or forward only content from trusted sources 3 be cautious do not reshare forward or like false information you know is not true 4 Be a good example correct or call out people on your social networks when they post something untrue Be a good one. Hey, that's wrong! Who are you? You're a VJ and you don't know anything! That's no good now!" That's exactly what they're encouraging here. Be a good example. Yeah. Correct or call out people in your social networks when they post something untrue. Refer them to verified content an expert organizations for further information... And by the way it says, call out people who post something that may not be true so

2:11:05 So just call them out all the time. Correct or call out people in your social networks when they post something untrue Refer them to verified content and expert organizations for further information Oh, expert orgs. Or five Spend less time online Only seek the latest information at specific times of day Yeah like 6 o'clock news Only seek it at specific times of the day. You know, when CNN does their headline news? Spend less time online. Only seek the latest information at specific times of the day once or twice a day if needed exercise listen to music or read a book this helps to maintain good physical and mental health together let's combat disinformation and misinformation turn the infodemic into a positive information experience one that promotes facts and science

2:11:52 Okay Promoting facts and science. Thank you World Health Organization It's always good to know that you're on our side when it comes to my safety in the infodemic, it's very much appreciated and the News organization the United States have taken this to heart they have lusted launch or they have the TNI the trusted news initiative And they have another initiative of their own as they are setting up a shared early warning system of rapid alerts to combat the spread of disinformation during the upcoming US presidential election.

2:12:34 No, no. Okay this got down to the brass tacks here this is about Trump Here we go The Associated Press and The Washington Post are the latest signees to the Trusted News Initiative an industry collaboration of major news and global tech organizations set up last year to stop the spread of disinformation TNI partners include AFP, BBC, CBC Radio Canada European Broadcasting Union Facebook the Financial Times First Draft Google YouTube The Hindu Microsoft Reuters Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism Twitter and the Wall Street Journal Oh my oh my

2:13:21 In the month leading to polling day, T&I partners will alert each other to disinformation that poses an immediate threat to life or to the integrity of the election so the content can be reviewed promptly by platforms while publishers ensure they don't unwittingly republish dangerous falsehoods. You want more? Oh brother. I want to join, but go on keep reading. The alerts will also flag content that undermines trust in TNA partners by identifying... There goes us! Here it comes here we are ready

2:13:59 This is us, here's us in a nutshell. Oh my goodness! I can't believe these people. The alerts will also flag content that undermines trust in the Trust Network Initiative partners by identifying imposter or manipulated content that purport to come from trusted news brands. Uh-oh! It comes at no agenda show! Those guys are not trustworthy To achieve this, TNI will deploy verification technology called Project Origin. Not Orange, Origin led by a coalition... although it should have been orange that would be funnier

2:14:40 Led by a coalition of the BBC, CBC Radio Canada Microsoft and The New York Times we're in a digital watermark is attached to media originating from authentic content creators and can provide an automated signal warning of manipulated or fake media. What has Microsoft got? When did it become a trusted news organization? Well MSN I think is is still one of those... MSN's not even in business anymore. No, the msn- msn dot com is a quite a big news site and I believe the uh It's a bunch of gossip and clickbait how was that trusted? Well um so let me go to msn dot com yes And lets just look at some of this stuff on msn dot com well but I think you're missing the point while your looking at it Oh im always missing the point

2:15:36 Come on, I'm looking at MSN.com Colorado governor national testing scene is a disgrace Here's why? I think it may be important to have Microsoft in there This is the default page. I believe that comes up with the new Chrome browser and the note With chrome, I know what comes up with Explorer or whatever. No, I mean edge edge Edge is Chrome. Yeah, it's the new Chrome browser It still called edge I'm pretty sure that Microsoft tracks every living click and view that you do on your computer, and that is going into this TNI network. They're the trackers! Microsoft is the biggest offender they know every single story that people are reading because they track it all

2:16:27 Oh, I see. Okay so but it's trusted news we have stories like how do an entirely empty your gut every morning top surgeon explains how the wedding photographer captured these photos this must be this must be customized for you i don't have these stories on my msn Yeah, you do. No I'm looking at... This is not customized by me. I go through a VPN 90% of the time. Yeah but they're still tracking you! Amazon shoppers love this $16 sun visor that can be rolled up for easy storage Listen, I know i didn't get the how to empty your gut in the morning That's gotta be news for you that's not from me

2:17:07 Anyone can go to the I got the newest of these and msn.com Go to MSN that kind starts scrolling down, and I'm just out for a decade you can go down and down it keeps going Okay, I got Britney Spears. Alright okay right? That's always for you that is customized. Yes it is customized because I follow her on Twitter so anyway You're right this is obviously the Orange Bad Man Network and the minute something comes out The alert signal goes off and everyone can post their disclaimer on it so that doesn't gain traction and go viral It's pathetic

2:17:44 The OMB network we're gonna use that somebody needs to give us a big deep voice somebody with one of those voices That's Darren O'Neill. You're listening to the OMB Network orange man bad One second, you know whenever you come up with an idea like this the thing that you want to do is go get the URL it's what I'm trying to do right now and OMBnetwork.com is taken crap! There you go I can get the dot net but who cares? Nobody wants dots, it's not worth anything Here's another one on this page Each state hilariously depicted by one photo

2:18:33 Oh brother. Hey, what do you want to talk about now? Because I don't... Okay, I want to hear it! I teased in the newsletter. Yeah yeah, I was worried about that and on the last show I said I got some good clips of Robin DiAngelo all of a sudden Adam's gonna take her down she won't walk in public in street anymore oh my god this should be entertaining and it was like whoa Okay, thanks broseph now. I have to make something out of my two clips You know I had to do that because I had that great picture of her it really screwed me on that one But I'm gonna get you because I did the work Do the work? I don't care what I did there okay um

2:19:19 To bring everybody back up to speed if you've not heard of White Fragility, the book by Robin DiAngelo which is on fire. It's number one I think in New York Times bestseller list it's probably still in the top three of Amazon. It's raking in the dough she learned her trade at some prestigious universities and has tenure and has gone out into the corporate world a go-to person for diversity training, equality and diversity training which has been going on for a long time but now there's finally one book that pops to the top of the stack and it's hers. And I'll just briefly give you the premise the way i see it if you read this book which I have done

2:20:08 You're immediately going to recognize a lot of things which is purely ignorance. You haven't thought about people's lives because different cultures, just different people because we're not all one homogenous mass although that's clearly what you would like and the solution to these horrible feelings you will now have after reading the book is that you have to atone for your whiteness for the rest of your life. Atone! No one else can be racist, only the white person can be racist and I'll even go that far with ya on your social justice tip but there's no end You cannot...you have to always be doing The Work as we established on

2:20:51 on the previous episode about a week ago, that doing the work is the code. If you are reading the book, you're doing the work even if you're not reading the book, you say you're doing the work because then people shut up because it's all right he's doing the work I thought i'd bring in Matt Taibbi with a quick two-parter as he did an excellent deconstruction of the book on his stack suite whatever that thing is called wherever he you can subscribe and pay for his articles. This was him on an interview, and we'll start with what the book recommends. So it's funny if she took parts of the book and just looked at the areas where she is trying to bring the attention of white people to structural inequities, to different kinds of situations that they might not be aware of because being white you're raised in a situation where you are simply not aware of certain factors

2:21:45 all those things very positive uh... the problem is she has this other issue she wraps up in this all encompassing theory that basically says that the uh... people are as defined by their race uh... or by the perception of their race that these uh... categories are inflexible and that uh... the only thing you can hope to do but But to combat the ongoing problem of racism is to relentlessly focus on race and commit to a lifelong program of striving to be less white, which there is. It's a very strange theology which I guess becoming sort of academic mainstream now but it the book itself has a lot of very odd theories connected to some pretty uncontroversial and positive theories

2:22:35 It's exactly the way I felt. It's like, okay you know there's a lot of interesting stuff there about racism that you're not aware of or just it's ignorance really and what it misses is the whole nepotism angle However, she is as we identified part of a movement that has been around for a long time. That is the EDI training and consultant scam. This is the racism problem as seen through the lens of somebody who makes thousands of dollars an hour being hired by companies to address, normally it's to address an internal toxicity issue. So what they do is they bring in these people who come from various academic outposts and they bring teams in and have trainings where they facilitate anti-racism dialogues

2:23:22 and employees are sort of herded into these trainings, and forced to listen to these speeches. And that's the lens through which her theories come. This is how corporate America views the race problem. It views it as an individual issue where racism is sort of inexorably stuck in all of us and the only way that we can combat it is through relentlessly listening to corporate consultants tell us how to fight it. And that's the irony here, I think what the problem with this book ultimately is that this is the corporate vision about how to tackle racism. It's just a higher people like this

2:24:03 to run through every company and search out racism in every corner, which could mean a thousand different things that aren't necessarily good. And as I looked into some of Robin DiAngelo's peers this is really quite a big industry and the Smithsonian Institute set up a whole separate website dedicated to whiteness and the problem of whiteness in America, and I was kind of chuckling because someone emailed a graphic from the website which actually this graphic has since been removed from the website but it's in the show notes. And you didn't know because there was no context you didn't know where it came from either as NMAACH

2:24:51 which is the Natural Museum of African-American Whiteness something, but it's part of the Smithsonian Institute on their website. And this pamphlet used... you said that this is crazy who would put this out? and it was The Aspects and Assumptions of Whiteness in White Culture in the United States? Yeah! Well so this is a real thing from the Smithsonian Institute on their website. It's really interesting to see how they view what they call American whiteness and it's like if you stuff that just like used to be an American

2:25:28 for an example, and maybe I'm way out of touch. Boomer possible but under the heading competition American whiteness consists of being number one win at all costs winner-loser dichotomy action orientation master and control nature must always do something about a situation aggressiveness and extroversion decision making and majority rules but only when whites have power I mean, it's really a very sick view of race. It really is! It has got very little to do with the race. Thank you. Family structure of whiteness – the nuclear family father-mother 2.3 children is the ideal social unit that's kind of ideal to keep our whole damn country alive and growing but okay husband this breadwinner and head of household wife as homemaker and subordinate to the husband

2:26:21 Children should have own rooms. When has that ever been? Well, according to the Smithsonian it's... okay it's the National Museum of African-American History and Culture that's the NMAAHC and that is part of the Smithsonian Institute I found a rather very insulting sheet of paper but it's also like some of the things that are very positive they put into a negative light I find that yes very disturbing yeah like American type kind of things. Yeah, so people like to work for you know they like to work for money! They like to win! What? Well yeah anyway...

2:27:02 But on this website, there's an entire section of books for you to do the work with and videos. And front and center right there is our girl Robin DiAngelo! I had to pull a few clips just so you can understand she standing in a In a clearly a set but kind of like it's supposed to look a little grungy with a splash of color in the background is kind of an industrial looking thing. I guess it's a choice with some like purplish lighting, reddish-purplish. I'm colorblind but i can tell something was weird with it and here is her intro to her whiteness. I'm Dr. Robin DiAngelo and my work focuses on the question of what does it mean to be white in a society that proclaims race meaningless yet is profoundly separated by race? And to start this off I want to draw your attention to the fact that I'm white so just look at me for a moment think about it notice it

2:27:59 And part of being white is that it's a very uncomfortable thing for me to do. And I should mention that, I believe this to be her standard speech This is probably what she does inside companies because its so easy flowing for her Im sure this how she starts her $12000 a day seminar No these sorts of things all stem back from the sensitivity training days in the 60s and you went on and on These things are extremely, not only well rehearsed but they're designed to elicit a certain kind of emotional response as she does them. Slick. Subversive seminars, if you go into one with the right attitude you can actually understand what's going on and you can actually get something out of it but generally speaking they're designed to subvert and confuse the person I would say this is so good and there are specific reasons for it maybe even specific American reasons for it

2:28:58 It is so good because you have to agree with a lot of what she's saying and you really do get sucked in but then when it comes to the payoff which is, You're going need me for the rest your life. Is kind of sick And its taken many many years to be able to draw people attention to my race and see any significance in it. That's because as a white person I was socialized to see race As what they had. I was just a person. I was just a white bread A Heinz 57 Uh...I didn't have race Heinz 57. Do you understand that? Yeah, well how is Heinz 57... How does that equate whiteness

2:29:39 It's like white bread. You should have would have been a better example, but Heinz 57 she used for some reason I'm not sure what hmm But it say is to make it's like something everyday product commonplace That's all over the place. Not a big deal almost generic Generic borderline generic not quite generic line generic where we can put a label name I was socialized to see race as individual acts of discrimination and prejudice Individual acts that anybody could do to anybody else And if you did those acts, you were a bad person and that is why since I always stop it back it up. Mm-hmm Yeah sure. I'm waiting for you. Yes. She say I was designed

2:30:24 to see race? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Okay now if she... okay well this is another trick they use yep this is where you use one word where another word is the right word you use the wrong word she uses race instead of racism she should have said I was I mean if I know she's doing this for a reason this is all part of it this is all how do what'd you call it neuro linguistic programming at some level And so she's doing this because it does. It screws up your brain when she says I've designed to see race as an act, when a race is a thing and racism is the act. But she doesn't use racism. She does that for a purpose. This is very purposeful. And I want to mention that we do have one listeners about to take this training. She didn't listen or she's a producer. She didn't want to do it

2:31:14 I had to talk her off the ledge and tell you gotta do it. You gotta get the paperwork You gotta report back, you gotta write an essay for The Cosmic Weenie. It's part of the trust network! But I would love to hear this thing because i could deconstruct this woman in a minute Yeah well there's a little bit more for ya A new member of the Trust Network Initiative is Cosmic Weenie. We welcome them! I was socialized to see race as individual acts of discrimination and prejudice, individual acts that anybody could do to anybody else and if you did those acts you were a bad person

2:31:52 And that is why, since I saw myself as a good person, I didn't see myself as connected to racism and certainly didn't see myself as connected to race. In other words, I didn't have a sense of racial identity. Today I understand that I move through the world always and most particularly as a white person. I have a white frame of reference and I have a white experience And part of being white is to have that be invisible to us and to be able to live our lives without ever Acknowledging that just see that as non-operative Okay, any comments or operative move on to the next everything she's doing. It's just old school est Yeah Well you'll love this next one and I'm yes stuff. I mean it would be

2:32:39 And I'd like to, I mean, I'm familiar with the models because I actually took a psychology course at Cal that discussed sensitivity training and made us go through a lot of it so we could understand it. And then when Est came out you know, which is just obvious what was going on as a brainwashing scheme mostly to get you keep giving them money this kind of proto-sales pitch for, I don't know what, it's like a religion And, uh... Yes. She's doing the same thing and it's like a religion has become a religion that's why people get so adamant about it and they get all pissed off if you question her. Yeah I bring brings back a lot of memories. I would love to go into this with someone who used to be in S trainer fight knew anyone know a couple that were into it but an S trainer who knew what they were doing would beat

2:33:35 I'd love to go to one of these seminars with them. Because you brought it up, I'm skipping...I'm gonna play a clip out of my typical sequence from James Lindsay. James Lindsay was one of the people who submitted all those fake papers if you recall to the peer review process, and it was stuff like homosexuality amongst dogs and all this kind of stuff. Do you remember that? We played a couple of clips from it. It was- Yeah vaguely yeah! And these were all peer reviewed like great paper fantastic really understand that is lovely there's a term for what you were just describing how people get all in on it and he mentioned it There's actually a religious form of OCD

2:34:20 It's called scrupulosity. Hmm, it's very common in the games. It's not too yeah, it does sounds like something like But no the deal is that its religious OCD where basically you feel like you haven't You haven't resolved your own complicity and sin correctly and therefore your balance of hellfire Right, and it's actually super common in Catholics. It is somewhat common in Mormons and you sometimes see it in the stricter variants of Calvinism and I don't know probably shows up in Islam as well. Actually just do not know on that but if it is a form of OCD where your trying to like out damn spot lady Macbeth yourself for your complicity and sin and I think that D'Angelo whose mother was a elapsed nun who

2:35:05 went on to become a leftist social activist. I do think that D'Angelo, it's not even her real last name has exhibits rather strong case of scrupulosity and to read white fragility is basically 157 or eight page confession of that and then projection of it onto all white people. Scrupulosity? I was not familiar with the term I never heard the term and when i first heard it, he said screwballosity. Which is what it is! It's the same thing...screwballosity but maybe that's something that's built into the old-school Judeo Christian nature of Americans very much the way the new Germans always have a version of screwballocity

2:36:00 Because the Germans are like, come on anybody for your immigrants. Come on in no problem because they have severe guilt over World War II and that's going to take another generation or two before that may go away So there may be something in certainly the American psyche that you can play to, then that guilt you can just tap into whenever you want to. And that guilt is obviously the whiteness! I'm going to repeat that because i think it's very profound and I really want us to sit with it. This is such a training term...I just want you to sit with that for a moment

2:36:40 Just want you to sit for a moment about how white you are that I can live my whole life in segregation In fact if I followed the trajectory that my loving parents laid out for me in My good neighborhood and my good school and my good college And my good career in which I would ideally rise to the top I could easily never have any consistent, ongoing authentic relationships with people of color and not one person who guided me ever conveyed that there was loss. Want you to just sit with that for a moment? Just sit with that for a second and even better I'd like to take you inside of it inside your evil white skin And I want to take us deeper. I want to take us inside this skin my Psychosocial development was inculcated in the water of white supremacy That is what I call this system. I don't mean

2:37:40 To KKK, I mean a system in which whiteness and white people are central and seen as inherently superior to people of color. My personality was formed in that water my worldview is formed in that water. I didn't choose it It isn't my fault. I'm not wracked with guilt about it but I am responsible for changing it Because the default of our society is the reproduction of racism. It's built into every system and every institution, and if we just live our lives and carry on in the most comfortable ways for us, we will necessarily reproduce it. There is no neutral space. Inaction is a form of action

2:38:23 Silence is violence. It all comes together This is another thing you do this is another brain scrambling Exercise methodology where you use these these kind, you know inaction Is a form or action as a form of inaction action the inactions a form of action Yeah. Silence is violence, actions and form of actions the way she puts it so that means if you don't do anything you're actually doing something as bad silence is violence. It's all the same people, the same thinking tying into the same guilt that has been played on over and over again. What was the one I said to you earlier today before the show started? I had one just read somewhere normally normally all you say is Don't touch the knobs then yes every time

2:39:15 Why do you keep fiddling with this thing? I'm not fiddling with the thing. So before I continue to a very different Robin DiAngelo and note worthy, I could not find it noteworthy that James Lindsay says that's not even her real name could not find her real name and let's just take a well then before we do that from the same Smithsonian website is a woman named Bell Hooks so So just so you have an idea that it's more than just Robin DiAngelo's white fragility, there is a very common theme underneath all of this. I began to use the phrase in my work White Supremacist Capitalist Patriarchy because i wanted to have some language that would actually

2:40:03 remind us continually of the interlocking systems of domination that define our reality. And it's because of this attitude, that you're... This is an anti-men thing! It's anti white man they only speak to women its right here its the white supremacist patriarchy and why does always have to be the patriarchy thats thrown in there? Maybe we've evolved a little bit unlikely, but maybe we've involved a little bit. It's just very irksome to me Yeah, yeah But so it's always male target they're always men hate yeah You gotta hate man otherwise you won't get you know that puts more women into the into the lesbian pool for dating as um, you know referred to earlier that Jewish friend

2:40:57 Tina's Jewish friend is really afraid of Trump, you know gonna come after the Jews and the anti-Semites. They're going to get all over her so she starts talking about something I said can just say that there is some real anger and there's only one group that everyone seems to be against...is straight old white men And she says, well that's not... I said have you listened to the news? White men white men white men old white men cis straight white men cis straight cis white men. Old cis white men! Have you not heard that?! Well you can't deny and from there i just tuned out yeah i tuned out i tuned out it was like bading you should have had your bell

2:41:46 Well, you know and I think it's worth repeating the only correct response to anything like that where you are accused of having privilege or just being white is to say the following. As someone who has done the work, I'm surprised you would use your privilege to assume that i am white! It's like the Vulcan nerve pinch when you do that they go And I can't speak and Confusing the computer in an old Star Trek episode. No, it's the Vulcan nerve pinch like This is knocks on your ass but then but if the mechanism is the computer right computer

2:42:32 I thought you were supposed to protect men, but you're not protecting anybody. So Robin DiAngelo... I am here to protect man! As we look at the Wikipedia entry just briefly she's a September 8th 1956 she's Virgo American academic lecturer and author working in the fields of critical discourse analysis and whiteness studies She's formerly served as a tenured professor of multicultural education at Westfield State University and is currently an affiliate associate professor of education at the University of Washington. She is known for her work pertaining to white fragility now, her credentials she received her PhD in multicultural education from the University of Washington

2:43:17 And her dissertation... It's a non-degree. Her PhD committee was chaired by James A Banks, so let's be careful here. What else? So she's joined there also named associate professor of multicultural education holds two honorary doctoral degrees all right fine well let's listen to a little bit about her Her youth growing up. I will never forget a moment in which, two moments in fact. One in which a teacher held my hand up in front of the class as an example of poor hygiene and told me to go home and tell my mother to wash me

2:44:11 What you're gonna hear is the amount of trauma this person has. She has a lot of personal trauma and I'm going to tell you right now, I feel she's projecting. My mom was a single mom she had three children uh...she was sick Lots of reasons to hate men in this by the way And she literally couldn't house feed or clothe us so i was dirty The other moment was visiting a friend of hers, some lady you know when you're kid and you get taken to somebody's house and they have kids so your playing. And on the way out I was the last one

2:44:51 out the door and I overheard one of their children ask her mother, what's wrong with them? That was her question. What is wrong with them? And I stopped, you know riveted like I wanted to hear and her mothe put a finger on her lips and said, shh they are poor that was revelatory moment it was a moment when i realized there something about us that everyone can see that's shameful but that should not be named. I mean, what was your white privilege? When i heard this like no wonder it doesn't didn't get any better at the same time uh-huh i also always knew i was white and i knew that it was better to be white things things i never thought of as a kid ah i can remember

2:45:49 seeing food left out, uneaten. And I was hungry and I would reach for it you know maybe out in a park on a picnic table or something and i would be admonished by my mother don't touch that you don't know who touched it could have been a colored person. Now...I don't know man that doesn't sound that believable to me this just Which was the language of the time and that the message was clear if a colored person touched it, it would be dirty. Ah There's her connection was actually dirty But in those moments in those moments I wasn't poor anymore and those moments I was white we used if you will black people to project our shame on two to realign us with the dominant

2:46:41 white culture that our poverty separated us from. Yes, I think it's a lot of projection. She wants the rest of the world to atone for her shitty childhood or something like that There's some underlying stuff that is just cannot be ignored. And they're still eating at her she wouldn't be telling these stories and whiteness is not her only problem When I use my white position to break with silence and white solidarity and speak up What? I am simultaneously healing the lie That I am inherently

2:47:25 inferior because I grew up poor. So for me to center race, even though I experienced oppression and have experienced depression in other aspects of my life for me to center race and feed every other identity or experience through that lens has been the most profound A tool if you will. So this is her, this is her process, her therapy... ...is to do this because she was depressed she's saying it right there! I was depressed and by doing this work I feel good again It is the genesis of her guilt gene

2:48:02 Anyway, two more clips. She's got some outstanding advice. But hope is such a tool in a way of whiteness and we've dangled that tool in front of black people for 400 years and we keep Not you know not showing up in the long term. Hope has been dangled in front of black people for years You evil evil white people how can you do that? I've never been more hopeful about our future I've never been more hopeful about America. And i ask you to sustain that hope. I'm not talking about blind optimism, the kind of hope that just ignores the enormity of tasks ahead or roadblocks in our path. I'm not talking about wishful idealism that allows us sit on sidelines and shirk from

2:49:04 I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us... Dangler in Chief! Dangler in chief Obama. Mr Hope literally dangling it in front of black people what a horrible, horrible man. It must be white. Alright then see this you did if you performed very well considering all the promotion I put in that news. I have a kicker for you here's the kicker Obviously, everyone needs to be doing the work. This is very important you have to do the work but this work comes with a stark warning Do not! Yes there's a problem it's a marketing problem which we know it's not really something she wants to say in that manner but people are going off and starting their own do-the-work groups

2:49:55 Oh no, you can't do that! It takes money away from the main group. Here she is... We also have to figure out how to do that work in accountable ways I am a little nervous about like how many people now are like oh i read your book and now i want to start a book study or i want to start a workshop and it takes years of experience and study and struggle and mistake making, trust building. I mean to hold a group around race and really hold that group, and push them and help them go where they need to go in ways that are constructive. It takes a lot of experience so we just have to also think... This isn't the format to give the answer or accountability but we need to be asking ourselves that. I am The Chosen One you cannot do this without me!

2:50:53 She's made a mistake by doing that book. Werner Erhard never did a book! Yeah, I think you're right she just screwed the pooch people are off doing their own work no no it takes years and years but do you know what it takes to talk to a group about our race? This is snake oil but its very effective women around the world are all into this It's okay. I mean, it is very good to be aware and not be ignorant about other groups and cultures We're all Americans But this guilt thing has got to stop And it will only stop when people freak out We'll see how it goes but it always ends poorly for the show For the person that's running a whole thing Does it always?

2:51:52 Think so only trying to be like a cult leader well I mean you end up like while Ron Hubbard where your end of where the government goes after you end up on a boat Can't get off and you're stuck there for the rest of your life until you die. That's not You know, yeah it's comfy but so what? Well right now the only problem she has to deal with is two podcasters who are ridiculing her. So I'm sure she'll be okay... There should be a lot more people ridiculing her over time. And I will mention that album going to I'll read Sir Peep Slayer of the Mojave Wastelands note at a future time It's really good note. It talks a little bit about some of this stuff, but he also said he's the one who sent Nixie clock out Oh Yeah make she says get some tubes while you can your start they're starting to fail The tubes are crapping out. I mind broke and

2:52:56 You dropped it? I didn't. Someone else who shall go unnamed dropped it Did all the tubes break? Ah, three of them It's pretty bad And then I looked and was like oh replace it you can only buy them in a kit you have to put it together No, um...I don't think I can do that You can buy loan tubes and then plug em in Replacement tubes okay no thats what ill look for but just look for the nixie tube any nixie tube that size Then you can I know they're probably expensive by now. I mean ten bucks a piece or more well, okay? But there you know they're cool. No I haven't dropped mine Well, you don't have a lot of people allow people in your in your domain There's plenty of people floating around but they just don't it wasn't allowed I don't know what that means when I was at your house. I was Dixie tube devices on the first floor You could have easily seen it

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3:05:27 I don't know if you ever noticed this, but when you travel around the world. You go to different countries and you find there's kind of like a thematic look And a lot of times with the women you'll see this, there's kind of... A lot of them have a look and some are dead ringers for different people. Yeah Croatia? Oh yeah Natalie Wood. Oh interesting! The Croatian girls were always I don't want to say it in Amsterdam the Croatian girls were uh we liked the Croatian girls

3:06:17 We feel safe there a bunch of whores. What are you trying to do? I'm like they'd like to party the Croatian girls liked a party Yes, that's what I'm saying If you look right Natalie would you probably like to party too well, yes true quick little just a list here of some noodle gun targets Ellen DeGeneres seems to be on target for the noodle gun and In fact, she's on target so much. I was just reading a piece about her in BuzzFeeds out to get her Yeah, let's see it has a writer that actually says if you have any dirt on Ellen send me an email She got our email right now Linda and they write it in the column she wrote bitching and moaning about Ellen and Ellen's apparently they've not you know they haven't forced them to do that do the

3:07:09 Do they work and they want to do the show, get some consultants in there and do the work? I think the problem is that employees claim they were subject to a toxic work environment. Which i understand... Well there's two things One when you're at Ellen DeGeneres level and it that kind of show And I witnessed some of this myself at MTV You work at the Ellen Show as whale shit because we can get a thousand people for you and it is run like a dictatorship, and I'm sure noodle boys and girls are not liking that.

3:07:48 Add to that, Ellen DeGeneres was seen hanging out with George W. Bush at the game I think that's where it started to go downhill for her You know i always forget about that but that is The Genesis It has to be Yep, the noodle gun Gamergate 2.0 as far as I can see 3 Ubisoft executives step down again due to a toxic culture whatever that means or at least culture not compatible with the organization. Cisco has fired employees that questioned Black Lives Matter during a company-wide racism discussion what they did is they posted, don't all lives matter? Sorry you're fired. You are done if you do that! Mistake mistake mistake noodle gun for you Did you see this article in The New York Times about black wine professionals

3:08:47 What are they bitching about? Let me see. TJ, I'll just read a little bit. TJ Douglas and his wife Hadley own Urban Grape, a thriving wine shop in the South End neighborhood of Boston before the pandemic. A regular internet customer with whom Mr. Douglas had had many discussions online about wine walked into the shop for the first time. The customer who was white had come specifically to meet Mr. Douglas whom he did not know was black He looked at me and walked right past me to an older white man who worked for me, and thanked him for all he had done. The employee pointed towards me, the gentleman turned around and looked shocked! He had never thought of buying wine from a black person before. He also looked extremely embarrassed." Yeah...he needs to do the work!"

3:09:40 There's a number of wine professionals at the highest level and you kind of want, I don't wanna promote multi-culti but you kinda want other ethnic groups to get more involved because they sometimes have a really tremendous palate just naturally. Oh yeah! It's all about that. One of the best sommeliers I've ever run into is Japanese who was just unbelievable and yeah there's a lot of black guys get into becoming blind connoisseurs and they get really good at it. It's not a shock to me." Well apparently the New York Times sees nothing but racism in the sector. That's the way it goes with them. This is nothing but racism! They're not putting into work. Sticking on the racism tip, Black Lives Matter for just a second... The Washington Redskins

3:10:31 Since we've been doing this show, I think there's been...I mean probably since long before that people have complained. This name is no good! It's racist! We can't use it! Why blah blah blah on and on? And so they finally saw the noodle gun come out and they had to at least announce they're going to change their name but what do African American Indians think about it or some would say Native Americans Well, I went to the source. Native peoples! I went to the source, NAGA, The Native American Guardians Association who say, We do not agree with this

3:11:11 We believe in education, not eradication. And above all we kind of like the Redskins deal! It actually makes me feel proud it uplifts my spirit and reminds me of my cultural background and my heritage where I come from. It's never been an issue for myself or anyone in my family Why? Why do they want to change the name? It's not a big deal. Redskins, it is powerful name. It is warrior name To break down into something that is not The intent has never been Never been to degrade people Because represents strong majestic warrior feel proud about That they are associated with team that is professional team

3:11:56 At the highest level of football. In the emblem it shows a strong warrior and our ancestors have always taught us to be strong and be proud of who you are I feel proud to be Redskins The Redskins name, it's always been a term that we felt was a unifying term. And we do call ourselves skins too, which is derived from redskins I feel like it's too insignificant when there are bigger topics to talk about in Indian country Our issue is that were more concerned about health care crime on the reservation Alcohol, drugs just lack of employment. We have like four or five families living in one house They've never asked Native Americans I mean it's all, it's somebody else who knows nothing about us trying to speak for us and its kind of an insult To me and my kids we don't think of as a derogatory or anything It doesn't bother me in any way Its not an issue with us Hey wait a minute! We guys had a clip on the last show where this woman said, it's a racist slang term full stop

3:12:58 Well, no one thought to ask the actual Redskins what they thought about it. They like it! They think its a warrior and they were proud of it and now they're kind of disappointed. This is propaganda Where'd you get this horrible propaganda clip? From NAGA Oh, Naga... well The Native American Guardian Association There was some guy- One Native American in there who sounded like he was from Canada A lot of them. Yeah, well that you border dive sure on area we have a bunch of makes and Mohawks makes those guys some kick-ass guys those guy exactly That's why we don't want to change Apache helicopters or Chinooks. You wanna change any of that? That's badass Where given ISO for end of show

3:13:50 No, I didn't you know. I was thinking about that And then I was thinking about it well as getting these clips and then I said and then I forgot It was just like a it slipped my mind now. I do have for I've won either maybe a Contender were sent to me listen to this okay? I've done some dumb things. They'll do dumb things again Joe Biden? Dumb things, dumb things. I thought you'd like it! Now i have a series of things that wanted to run off but I can't now because the show's over so I'm going to tease it. Thursday and this is only from the first 20 minutes

3:14:26 But I would recommend people go see this because i'll have some thoughts on it. This is the interview that Steph Banofalos did with Mary Trump Oh crikey man, you sure you don't want to do that? Because we should tell the affiliates we're going along You wanna go long?! Hold on a second Affiliates! We notify you were going long and doing it live All right, well this is going to take about 10-15 minutes maybe. I keep it down let's start with the teaser for the whole thing which is the Mary Trump zero clip where John Carl again on The View brings up the Mary Trump book now anyway how was he handling the release of the book do you happen to know?

3:15:06 I mean, I'm told he's deeply frustrated about it. He obviously tried really hard to stop the book from coming out even enlisted his brother, his younger brother Robert Trump. Trump's upbringing, his family—there is very little that he has ever really talked about. We know that Mary's father, his older brother Fred died related to alcoholism and the president occasionally talks about that but he almost never talks about his upbringing there is very little known and he said nothing to say publicly about this he's answered very few questions since this book came out i tried to ask him he clearly heard me this was the day it came out a yelled out any reaction very simply any reactions here in these you know mary's uh... book and he completely ignored me walked out at that rose garden event we were talking about i wanted asking other question had he figured i might ask about her but he did not call on me did not take any questions he hasn't been tweeting about it is meant amazingly silence about this

3:16:06 which makes me think it really actually, really bothers him. And the reason why I'm very happy we're going long is because I think this story is gonna... something's gonna blow in the next few days. I don't want all this work to go to waste on these clips. This is big! I'm not arguing with the decision Fred Trump died in 99. This woman who's a I looked at her, she had first of all she was showing off her thumb ring and just kind of wearing purple lipstick yeah that's not it she's pissed off and she's a pissed-off lesbian oh is she lesbian? Yeah when you see her you say wow she's a lesbian and then look her up she's a lesbian okay You have Les Bar Radio!

3:16:55 Well, the thumb ring. George Stephanopoulos did a long interview with her and at some point he was, you could see he had a look of disgust on his face. And by the way when he does interviews, he's gotten to become an excellent interviewer. He asks the right questions, he does the right follow-ups, he strings the person along perfectly keeps it going calls them out on things...and he was getting annoyed with her because she was talking out of her ass! You could just tell she doesn't know anything She doesn't. She doesn't know anything, she's talking about what Donald was doing when he was two. Right How does she know that? She doesn't know anything! She was born in 65, she is a mind reader. She does have a PhD in psychology. But licensed mind reader

3:17:47 She's a mind reader and there are whole books about that. You'll get us a sense of that as we listen to it Let's start with clip one and get the intro Hello, and welcome to ABC News Live We're hearing for the first time from President Trump's niece Mary Trump since the publication of her explosive new memoir Too Much And Never Enough And I sat down and spoke with her in this exclusive interview about her uncle, about her belief that he is quote utterly incapable of leaving this country. And why it's dangerous in her view to allow him do so Here's my conversation with Mary Trump Too much and never enough Explain why you chose the title In thinking about my family It applies because

3:18:25 people associate money with them, understandably. And for my grandfather in particular there was no such thing as having enough money so I was thinking about what that meant and also thinking about the psychology behind him and his children curious about the foundational issues that Donald and his siblings lived through. And I realized when really carefully examining the kind of childhoods they had, particularly Donald and my father there was this very real sense for Donald when he was quite young that there just wasn't enough

3:19:20 love attention support and For my father who is quite a bit older There was too much attention. You know he was the heir apparent My grandfather focused on him with extraordinarily hard on him so Because there was such an odd Degree of difference in terms of what the children received again particularly the two brothers for Donald There could never be enough to compensate for the loss of what he experienced as a child. And for my father, there was always too much of the wrong thing that impacted everybody in the family. Her analysis of Trump is as good as mine of Robin DiAngelo. Let's listen to I'm going to skip that but we'll play the other clips. Well let's skip to what you just heard

3:20:20 I want you to skip to clip five on her father. Tell me about your father at his best Unfortunately, I can only do that through other people By the time I was born he was quite ill alcohol yes Which you know caused all other kinds of illnesses too and because my family for reasons that are rather complicated were very invested in portraying my father as a loser somebody who didn't tow the party line somebody who betrayed my grandfather by not going into the business and be doing the entirely irresponsible thing of becoming a professional pilot for TWA at the dawn of the jet age I

3:21:18 Much to my shame, didn't understand what he had accomplished. Um... I was often ashamed of him not realizing that um he had no support in the family and was treated as somebody who is damaged beyond repair Oh man now i feel bad for her she's traumatized Yeah, she's exactly the same as the Angelo. Yeah and it's all it's always the dad the dads will mess you up So she never knew her dad she says but after we heard the first clip She's going on with all these details By the way And I would tell you that Stephanopoulos was just getting more and more annoyed by her let's play a clip to Dookie is a long clip

3:22:14 It all begins with your grandfather. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. You say he's a sociopath? Yes What do you mean by that? He had no empathy He was incredibly driven in a way That turned other people including his children and wife into pawns to be used for his own ends If somebody could be of service to him then he would use them. If they couldn't be, he excised them and in my father's case tragically He was not of use. He was the wrong kind of person. He was the wrong person. He was the wrong son and My dad never recovered from that

3:23:02 And my grandfather essentially needed to get rid of him. You say your grandfather destroyed both your father because he wasn't the person your grandfather wanted him to be? Donald Trump is president United States, yet you say the grandfather destroyed him as well. Yes. He went about it differently because unfortunately for Donald, he could be abuse to my grandfather. It wasn't as simple as that, of course Donald had many years watching my father be the wrong one behaving differently not being accepted for who he was and it's impossible to know who Donald might have been under different circumstances and with different parents but clearly he learned the lesson from watching his almost eight-year old brother

3:23:59 be punished for being kind, for being generous, for being sensitive. For having interests outside of what my grandfather thought was acceptable. He loved to hang out with his friends, he loved to boat and fish and fly by the time he graduated from college she had a private and professional pilot's license. He wasn't a killer? He was not a killer! And shockingly that is bad thing and Donald learned that lesson Wow, this is all just based on hearsay. She wasn't alive for most of that? She wasn't alive for most of that and she never knew her father even when she was at the time... from the time she was born! But what I hear is- And he died when she was 15 or 16 What I'm hearing a little bit of Is someone who Was familiar with her grandfather's thinking Um..and Her side of the family basically got screwed out of everything because uh

3:25:03 He was the wrong son and it sounds like there's hatred and jealousy of Donald J. Well, you have to remember that there was a big lawsuit over the inheritance and she was behind it She only got two hundred thousand bucks I believe maybe when Everything was divvied up And it went to the everybody else She's this is bullshit. This whole book is filled with just somebody, you know This is worse than some of those early books remember the Michael Wolff book? Yeah You know at least the steel dossier had interesting hookers peeing on beds in Moscow I mean that that at least was a story now they're dragging this woman everywhere and all oh

3:25:49 Oh, boy. She's the expert! She knows nothing!" She knows nothing and it becomes really apparent when you listen to her watch her try to answer the simplest questions We got two more clips let's go with three You write that he knows deep down that he is nothing of what he claims to be He knows he has never been loved Does children love him? I don't know if that's true...I don't know my cousins very well they're much younger than i am And I guess it also depends on what that means. What does it mean to you? To me, love means

3:26:28 being connected to another human being in a very deep way, um...being able to share things with them and trust them. In terms of parent for child it means sacrificing for them and accepting them no matter what and never putting them in the position to lie for you or cheat for you or take from you And I don't know that most people in my family understand that. You know, I don't think this has enough legs to go she's got nothing she has nothing that the media can really sink their teeth into other than whatever she just saying about stuff that she doesn't...that she was only hearsay That's..this is...I can't believe the amount of airtime She's getting Rachel Maddow everywhere

3:27:19 Oh, they're just look there's grasping at straws. I mean if you think of the John Carl commentary that you heard at the beginning in this little presentation Yeah Well Trump saw it...Trump is he hasn't even got the the I wouldn't say the balls But he doesn't he feels bad about it That's why he's not talking about it Trump could just say, oh she's you know he could say a few things about her but he's not saying anything because he's more loyal to his family and he has to just assume that he just has to let it slide. He's letting it slide and Carl I tried to ask him he doesn't want to talk about it because you know he's scared of it though. Are you scared? Scared of all this yeah okay... And by the way this deconstruction of something that the media is putting front and center is what makes people

3:28:05 yell on Twitter that we are Trump apologists. Yeah, just saying. They also yelled it apparently on Mastodon. Only at you though! I wonder what's going on? Marry Trump for this will be our... We'll finish with this. The gender divide in my family was stark even for the 40s and 50s She had very little to do with the boys It was almost as if the boys were my grandfather's purview and the girls for hers. How does she know this? Well because I don't know, I think from quite early on I think

3:28:43 Donald just didn't expect much from her. He knew, I think by the time he was sent to New York Military Academy that she wasn't going to stand up for him and after that very tragic year when she was quite ill and inaccessible when he was only two and a half I don't think the rift was ever repaired you described her as being more or less at her wits end with Donald before he sent to the military academy yeah how so? He didn't listen. Oh, okay So she actually has nothing Nothing! Yeah it's exactly right That is wow well then they are indeed at their wit's end if this is what they're rolling out

3:29:40 Better find something better absolutely nothing she has no idea and then she just contradicted herself in that last segment where she says all Fred had all the boys and Mary had all the girls right wait Why is why is Mary at her wits end with Donald then so dumb? She is just this is I don't know what the problem is, but she does talk about... She was invited to the White House. She was there in 2017 and she has some stories to tell about that and she's just...I know she's never going to get invited back of course you never know with Trump but this is a pathetic attempt

3:30:21 Just slam Trump against oh by the way should mention She was a massive Hillary supporter big donor part of the 2016 campaign, okay? So she's a hill bot and she was you know. She was disappointed at her You know her nephew or whatever I don't know how to rate these things with what you call him uncle One because he was all in for Hillary And so the whole thing is sorted, and this is just a pathetic... to pick this up. That's why it's not getting as much play as you'd think because yeah she's showing up on MSNBC but just saying I think he didn't really use three. He probably wasn't even housebroken or whatever you call that. Everything in her book is hearsay man thats fantastic

3:31:07 Alright, well that's one you don't need to buy unless you want to get a twofer and there's a deal on this book and white fragility it may be something worth doing Yeah Coming up on no agenda stream grumpy old Benz will be next we've got end of show mixes from Rolando Gonzalez or seed sitter who has been starring all over the show today? And Jesse Coy Nelson always their Jessie is with something to entertain us with and we will return on Thursday with another episode of the NOA Agenda Show. Check out our brand new website, noagendashow.com So happy with it all jitty And I am coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the drone star state It's the capital of Texas. Its Austin FEMA region number 5...6? FEMA number 6 Where am i six? Think im six In case your looking for it on governmental maps In the morning everybody! Im Adam Curry

3:32:03 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're hoping to go four hours. I'm John C. Dvorak. We'll try again on Thursday remember us until then at dvorak dot org slash NA Until then adios and bofos! And such. I don't even need Fauci wants everyone to take a vaccine To achieve herd immunity Or whatever that means. Well, I'm not an animal in any kind of herd

3:32:50 So I think I'll take a pass. It is a bit bizarre, I don't really fully understand it But maybe i would do it if I could yank down his short trousers and jab a needle in his ass cheek first then check on him in a year and half to see how he's doing Bill Gates says we won't get back to normal unless we all accept a vaccine. But I was never normal anyway, so keep that needle to yourself! Although if I can pull his pants down and jam that needle into his scrunny little ass... And check on him in a year and half just to see how he's doing

3:33:47 I still wouldn't take the vaccine myself, but it would sure make me smile. I wouldn't say get angry but i'm really impatient that we're not moving as fast as I'd like. And it sounds to me like you're saying oiger. That's what I heard in the clip. I hear her say oiger. You hearing oiger? Oiger yeah Oh, here we go. This is gonna be fun! This is gonna go viral finally! Extra strategy! No... Weeger. Weeger. Weeger. Weeger. Young weegers. Weegers. Weegers. We-weigers. Weeger people. Weeger yeah I'm hearing a weeger. BLAM!

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3:35:26 Would you let your kids go back to school? I will. My kids are looking forward to it, yes period absolutely It's so dire at this point where we've had to actually separate parts of our hospital So we have two emergency rooms now as much as i can Without hesitation without a hesitation Yes Those other very, very critical issues that people come to an emergency room for and then we have a separate emergency room strictly for COVID. I have no concerns about sending my child to school in the fall. It's very serious and we have to make sure... Everybody's a little nervous, but the vast majority wants to get back into school and the majority wants to get back to school safely. You cannot trust the government and media anymore!

3:36:14 One thing that hasn't been mentioned much in the debate over reopening the nation's schools, the expenses involved. Okay... We know that even an N95 mask has tremendous limitations Young people in this country are saying enough is enough Bars restaurants and The Young made their way into the crosshairs of governors of southern states. The virus is surging This is not a moment for excuses or deflection. Playing games Every single one of you, for crimes against humanity Stay at home if possible It's going to get worse and worse and worse The best podcast in the universe Adios mofo Dvorak dot org slash N A I've done some dumb things And i'll do dumb things again