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00:00 But the podcaster, podcaster, let him through. Let him go. Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak. It's Sunday, April 5th, 2020. This is your award winning Get My Nation Media assassination episode 1231. This is no agenda. Debunking the data and broadcasting almost live from Opportunity Zone 33 here in the frontier of Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where I'm remembering the once king. of the online services. I'm John C. Dvorak. It's Crackpot and Buzzkill. You killed me, man. This is what you're thinking of? The genie service from General Electric back in the days of Prodigy? Yeah, Prodigy is another one. Yeah. Well, Prodigy was Sears, wasn't it?

00:50 Sears there's a it was three companies. They were doing a joint as a joint venture with Sears and two others I can't remember who they were right and then but then genie hand did genie ever make it past the floppy disks Well, they went what do you think? What would you think their years of existence were gosh? I really don't know that's a good I've you know AOL we know prodigy I think it closed after a couple of years had the weird graphics, but genie no I don't remember 1985 it came out and it ended until the end of 1999. Huh. Yeah. Who still has a genie? Did they even have email back then? It was just an account. It was not even an email address at the time. No, they had a whole system. It was very much like CompuServe.

01:44 Another before all of them went graphical. I mean once AOL came out with the GGU I which stalled the internet I mean the web came out by then it was rolling along to say the least because he had the dot-com crash from the web right and at the same time you had these other services that were Kind of struggling with how to how to incorporate the mouse and how to get traction and then AOL just kind of wiped them all out and AOL it was thought to be the Operation was gonna take over the web was a joke. Oh, no Even a even a well thought that you've got mail. I know you don't want that dangerous internet. Well, here's a here's a word way He works he would and keywords the way to go exactly I got these new headphones, which I'm still trying to get used to All right one of our producers turned me on to the Neura headphones and you are a

02:39 And what's interesting about these is now they're supposed to deliver an unparalleled immersive experience with music which they do 100% The reason why I have them is inside the, they're over-the-ear headphones, inside the cones they actually have two tubes that go directly into your ears. Eee! Which, you know, like my hearing aids, which is what I need because then I can crank it up as loud as I want without any feedback. Zero feedback now. Oh, well that's a plus. Yeah, only they sound a little different than the other ones so, you know, it takes a little getting used to.

03:17 Yeah, your tubes man. It's the future. Oh You're drilling in your brain you would like these headphones they I don't like him I don't like him. No, you don't like seriously liked because of the sound Or a pair and I still have one pair of these had to pair at one time I gave one pair away Of Sony electro stats. Oh, yeah, but they leak you can't crank those up really loud. They leak. Oh Well, electrostats are sensitive to everything. I know, but I have a hearing issue so I need crutches, man. Well, past couple of days have made it clear to me all data we're seeing is bogus. I thought that was made clear to you earlier. No, it's...

04:11 Once I hear the press asking questions in the coronavirus task force briefing, and the question is, hey, you're going to publish that data? And everyone's looking at each other going like, hummina, hummina, hummina. No, I don't think so. We can't trust government, we can't trust the hospitals. There's just endless reports from our own producers as well of people being declared having died from coronavirus and it's just not true. Well, we have at least two of our producers that have discussed this. One of them, they don't discuss it the way I looked at it, which was, yes, my granddad or whoever it was died and he didn't have corona, but after he died, they checked him again, he had corona. And then we had another one, just to tell you guys, just summarizing these notes.

05:08 Just to tell you guys, the corona's real. My brother or somebody very close to him died and even though he tested negative for corona, just before he died, they tested him again, he had corona. And so I'm thinking they're just like throwing everything in the corona bin when we have, and I suggested this to Mimi, we had one of the worst flu seasons this year That was the A and then the B, it had both of them. That was not pushed back by the flu shot. The flu shot was ineffective. And so nobody's talking about that. Nobody's talking about, if you remember year after year, right into June, yeah, you should still get a flu shot. I just sent you on the Skype messenger. I'd like it if you could just go in there and click that. I found this yesterday.

06:01 And this is a chart from, I think it's from the CDC, and it shows pneumonia deaths weekly for the past, for the 2014-15 season, the 15-16, 16-17, 17-18, 18-19, then 19-20. Do you see it? Yeah, I'm looking at it now. So if you look at the 1920, you see these... 1920? Yeah, 2019, 2020, I'm sorry. 2019, 2020, the red line. Yeah. Around January, it starts to diverge from the past five years and goes down significantly. I mean, just a complete anomalous trend to every other year.

06:50 And all I can think is, and these are pneumonia deaths that you're looking at, is that a lot of these got attributed to coronavirus. Yeah, probably. Especially with a very severe flu season, you'd expect the inverse to happen. It probably is exactly the inverse of the reporting of the cases and deaths. Well, also, I think that, as I've suggested, and Trump suggested this in the press conference, when he was talking about the empty, you know, the ship that's in New York Harbor's only got like 20 people in it. He says, you know, if everyone's told to stay at home and do social distancing, everything's gonna go down. Colds, traffic accidents, you know, all these numbers are gonna go falling through the floor. And I guess you could, and I suggested in the newsletter that well, maybe if, you know,

07:47 this graph being a good example. Well, maybe we should just all shelter in place from January to like, I don't know, maybe June 1st as a country and we won't, you know, we'll have more, you know, we'll have less deaths. Well, okay, probably. It's a mess. So the data is a mess. I'd like to talk about the testing, but kind of came just out of left field showed up yesterday. This doctor from New York who claims to be an ICU doctor in Brooklyn. The name checks out, the picture looks the same, so I can only presume this is the same guy. Young doctor, and he's been posting, he's posted three different YouTube videos. He's definitely reading parts of it off of his screen. Now I'm just being careful because it's, you know, this is a guy in his kitchen, who knows?

08:41 But it looks like he checks out and he has a very disturbing observation. Hi, this is Dr. Cameron Kyle Seidel, ER and critical care doctor from New York City. We are working extremely hard under extremely stressed conditions. We're stressed not only over concern of our own health, but because we are watching people dying of a disease we do not understand, of a disease we have never seen before. Right now, it is as if the train is slamming down the track at an extremely high velocity under extremely stressed conditions. But we don't know where we're going. We are putting breathing tubes in people and putting them on ventilators and dialing up the pressure to open their lungs. I've talked to doctors all around the country and it's becoming increasingly clear that the pressure we are providing may be hurting their lungs. That it is highly likely that the high pressures we are using are damaging the lungs of the patients we are putting the breathing tubes in.

09:34 It's not our fault. We didn't know. This is how we treat ARDS. This is how we've treated it for the last 20 years. Two days ago, the Italians came out with a letter stating the same thing, that we are running the ventilators in the wrong way. Right now, the news is saying that 100 to 250,000 people in this country may die. That means 100 and 250,000 thousand people may be put on a ventilator that is programmed wrong. We can change those protocols. We need to change those protocols. COVID positive patients need oxygen. They do not need pressure. They will need ventilators, but they must be programmed differently. The protocols in this country, in every small, big, medium-sized hospital in this country,

10:15 must change. They can change. The time for us to change them is rapidly diminishing, but we do have time, but that time is now. We have to change the protocols. Please spread the message. I find that rather concerning. Well, I have a ventilator report then. Oh, very good. Because all we seem to care about is are there enough? How many will anyone die without one? But no one's really talking about the protocol used. It may be more to it than just that. What got me on this is that Trump, again, he had a very strange, very strange ventilator commentary. This is the clip Trump versus the ventilators, which kind of got me.

10:59 triggered into finding this other clip. If you do have a ventilator, what are your chances? And I just hope that hydroxychloroquine wins, coupled with perhaps the Z-Pak as we call it, dependent totally on your doctors and the doctors there. Because you know the answer to that question. If you do have the ventilator, you know the answer to that question. And I hate giving the answer. So I don't want to get them there. I don't want to get them there. There's a possibility, a possibility. And I say it. What do you have to lose? I'll say it again. What do you have to lose? Take it. I really think they should take it. But it's their choice. And it's the doctor's choice or the doctors in the hospital. But hydroxychloroquine, try it if you'd like.

11:53 The other thing... Man, this is some creepy shit he's doing here. Out of context, without the video. It's like, hey kids... There's no better. There's no better with the video. There's no better. It's the best with what... With the Z-Pack, as we call it. Kids want a Z-Pack. But hydroxychloroquine. Try it. If you'd like. The other thing... If you have a heart condition, I understand, probably you stay away from the Z-Pak. But that's an antibiotic. It can clean out the lungs. The lungs are a point of attack for this horrible virus. But when you have a ventilator, don't ask the answer, because I hate it. If you have it and it's working beautifully,

12:42 I don't like the answer because it's not a very high percentage. So I want to keep them out of ventilators. I want to keep them if this drug works, it will be not a game changer because that's not a nice enough term. It will be wonderful. It'll be so beautiful. It'll be a gift from heaven if it works because when people go into those ventilators You know the answers. I know the answers, and I'm glad you don't write about it Mike please holy crap So that confirms that ventilators is a death sentence well He's glad nobody writes about it, but apparently that's not true with NPR oh

13:27 clip one. You hear about it? Yeah. Here it goes. This is the ventilator report from NPR. The intensive care units at Barnes-Jewish Hospital in St. Louis are filling up with coronavirus patients and Dr. Tiffany Osborne has been caring for many of those who've been placed on ventilators to keep them alive. It's very concerning to see how many patients patients who require ventilation do not make it out of the hospital. How many of them die? Osborne is a critical care specialist at Washington University School of Medicine. She says doctors in China and Europe and elsewhere in the U.S. are reporting death rates from about 50 percent to more than 80 percent. We're not sure how

14:08 how much help ventilators are going to be. They may help keep somebody alive in the short term. We're not sure if it's going to help keep someone alive in the long term. Patients end up on a ventilator when their lungs can no longer deliver enough oxygen to keep the body going. Osborne says it's an extreme measure. We give sedation so that the person goes to sleep and then we provide a paralytic that stops their breathing. Next, they insert a long plastic tube through the trachea and vocal cords. That allows a machine to deliver puffs of highly oxygenated air to the lungs. The ventilator itself can do damage to the lung tissue

14:45 based on how much pressure is required to help oxygen get processed by the lungs. And Osborne says coronavirus patients often need dangerously high levels of both pressure and oxygen because their lungs have so much inflammation. Also, ventilators create a path for a wide range of infections to reach the lungs. Dr. Negin Hajizadeh is a pulmonary critical care doctor at Hofstra Northwell School of Medicine in New York. She says ventilators work really well for patients with common forms of pneumonia. We treat patients for several days and then we get the antibiotics into the body and the patient recovers. Unfortunately, with this COVID-associated pneumonia, there are no treatments that we know work for sure. So Haji Zadeh, who spoke to me from just outside of an intensive care unit, says ventilators are of limited value. Wow, for the amount of noise the M5M has been making about them.

15:42 This is a dead sentence. Very creepy, yeah. Now we know that a lot of people are put on ventilators very quickly with a mask, not intubated with a mask, in order to keep anything they might be exhaling out of the hospital air. But once you go to intubation, it sounds like you're dead. Sounds like it to me too, which is what Trump was indicating. Trump has been really pushing this drug and trying not to be too... He didn't bring up to the 80% death rate. Let's listen. There's just a little more follow-up information. It's not much, but it's part two here. Says ventilators are of limited value.

16:22 We have had several patients between the hospitals across the Northwell Health System that have come off of the breathing machine, but the vast majority are unable to. Haji Zadeh says one reason is that the coronavirus often does a lot more lung damage than, say, the flu. There is fluid and other toxic chemical cytokines, we call them, raging throughout the lung tissue. She says in some patients, the damage is so bad that even ventilation won't help. So they've tried an even more extreme measure called ECMO, which delivers oxygen directly to a patient's bloodstream. Remember, ECMO 2 is a life-supporting treatment. So it's a bridge while we are allowing the lung to heal itself from a pneumonia. If it can't,

17:07 Dr. Tiffany Osborne says that what doctors are learning about severe coronavirus infections should make it crystal clear why we all need to take steps to keep the virus from spreading. I know that at times it gets frustrating, but it's really important not just for yourself and your family, but for the other people that you care about to shelter in place. until this is over. Osborne should know when she's not at the hospital she's living in a camper to avoid putting her family at risk. Well, it's just rather concerning and I'll add to that that the doctor, I'd watched all of his videos, he said in another piece, he said that it looked like, he said he's never been to Mount Everest, but he said he could imagine the way people look when they get put on the ventilator is that they need oxygen, like they get dropped off at, you know, 20,000 feet on a summit somewhere and just don't have enough oxygen.

18:05 Like they're going blue in the face and yeah, but he felt that the pressure was actually hurting their lungs This is concerning because this is new information that isn't official It's just kind of floating out there and and now we have to find out about it and speculate. Is that the idea? This is you cannot trust the government and the media anymore. It's nothing. It's really nothing now It's it's it's just insulting to watch Well, especially after we had to go through this back and forth with Trump and Cuomo about, oh, we need 30,000, 40,000 ventilators, which is you would, in other words, you're going to just death sentence for like, you know, 30 or 40,000 people.

18:45 And with no explanation, all we hear is the word ventilator. Well, ventilator sounds like a good thing. They have to knock you out with a, put you in a semi comatose state and then paralyze your lungs so you can't breathe and then shove this tube down your throat through your vocal cords and then push air in there, but using pressure. What could possibly go wrong? What could possibly go wrong? Damn. Yeah, yeah, well, so let's just continue with some of the complete lack of information. So just back to data. Testing. I'm starting to figure it out. I've had, we have, as it turns out, once again, many producers who either work in labs, have spouses who work in labs, who understand the assay, the assays, I'm learning all these terms, the ELISA,

19:37 which is the test that we're currently working on, which is the enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay. A-S-S-A-Y. Assay. So these are all studies. And although they are now coming with the PCR and the qPCR and the... What's the... I forget the other name of the test. To date, they pretty much test for a coronavirus, not specifically the SARS-CoV-2, which means a lot of this testing could be a false positive for something that you have that may not be the actual coronavirus strain that is apparently the killer. So that leaves a lot of room for error in what we're doing.

20:27 Especially since it's clearly the Gates Foundation driving the data, driving the numbers, in fact driving the narrative. This needs to be looked at very closely and we can't count on the media to do it. So we can't deconstruct the media other than, okay, they suck, now let's do some of our own work. And I got four clips here from Burks. Deborah Burks who is also all in on the Gates Foundation stuff. It's getting kind of disturbing when you see how many people are connected. So testing, we're trying to use testing now to understand who has it, if you're positive, whatever that means. I guess now if you have a sniffle and you have maybe a cold, which could be a coronavirus, not the one we're talking about, certainly not the L strain, something else that is just not being tracked, which strains are people infected with. The testing will also be used

21:30 to find out who had the coronavirus and if you've built up antibodies. And this is important to understand because this is how we're going to be released either The miracle game changer hydroxychloroquine does the job. It seems like there's a lot of pushback with entire, with governors forbidding an entire state to use it. And Trump just keeps hammering it over and over again. There seems to be reluctance that could also be because there's commercial versions. I think that's Plaquen or Palaquin, Paquilin.

22:10 Which is a hydroxychloroquine by a brand name. I guess they don't have it who knows what's going on but the other part is the testing and testing is very inconsistent and is open to interpretations not being made. Here's Burke's. What we're triangulating right now and instead of working on our are not we're looking at testing and triangulating testing, test positive cases, hospitalizations, ICUs and the whole and of course the recoveries because that's also very important to us. I think it's very important that the American people know that there are equal number of states with less than 5% positives despite high levels of testing. So there are states that are mitigating and making this work. There are also the states that you know of, the 18 states that have the larger outbreaks, and we're watching them very carefully, triangulating for them all of the information to ensure that clients who come to the hospital are cared for.

23:12 So this leaves an interpretation open. She says, oh, it's because of mitigation these states have a much lower positive test rate. I'm not so sure that's the only interpretation. It's also possible that there's a completely different strain in the 18 cities she mentioned. I didn't know this was a thing, the 18 cities. She said states. Oh, state. I'm sorry, states. I don't understand how she can say that's just because of mitigation. I think it's possible we're dealing with port cities that may have been infected with something more severe, different strains, something different altogether. We know for a fact there's eight strains minimum.

23:48 Yes, eight. There's talk of 40, but the main two, the... Oh, jeez. Yeah. Well, it mutates. So that's to be expected. It mutates. But, you know, the main two, the S strain and the L strain, maybe that was distributed and that kind of fits the theory of carriers were sent out from China into Europe and the United States. Could be, I don't know. But I'm not just going to dismiss mitigation as the answer to that. There's some good news, which went entirely unreported. But the bottom line is, and I think going into this weekend it's really important for the American people to know this, Spain and Italy are moving through this. They are seeing their number of cases drop. They're seeing the number of people in hospitals drop. We are about, on our models and on the actual data, about 12 days behind them. Okay.

24:44 So that should be celebrated as pretty darn good news. If there's a 12-day lag and we're gonna be in the same place, he's now talking about lessening restrictions. That sounds like really good news to me. No one really picked up on it. I guess we want the terror to continue. Here's the... Ah, yes. In order to get, this is the gonna be a common theme. This is, this was also from the briefing. This was the Stephen Hahn. He's the FDA. I think he's the head of the FDA and

25:27 He spells out very clearly that there's probably going to be a test before anybody can go back to work. To what extent do you think that you can use antibody tests to determine who can go back to work? Well, I don't know. I'd rather leave that to the doctor. Doctor, do you have an answer to that? We think it'll be a tool to help us get people back to work. It'll be additional information because as you know, if you have an antibody that means you were exposed and have recovered from it, that with the information about diagnosis should help. But how quickly can you scale up this testing to determine on a large scale how many people can go back to work and have these antibodies? So as you know, a couple weeks ago we provided a great deal of regulatory flexibility around this. A lot of great developers have been working on this. Dr. Birx put a call out to the academic labs around the country to do this and we've been working very closely with a number of manufacturers. So we think that it can be scaled up relatively quickly.

26:24 There you go. So we'll have machines. If you want to go back to work, if you maybe if you want to go to the grocery store, you'll have to be tested on the spot. Maybe you'll have some kind of proof that you've been tested. So you will have to have at minimum an antibody test that shows you are know that you are immune from it, that you've had it and that you're a safe, safe human resource, safe. So dystopian. Trump even hints at it occurring in more places, this testing. Possibly restricting flights from hot spots. Where are you on that? We're looking at it very seriously right now. We're dealing with governors, we're dealing with airlines, we're dealing with a lot of different factors. It's a very

27:11 difficult decision. We're also doing testing, getting into planes, very strong testing. States are doing testing of people that leave planes because they don't want to have people coming in who are infected. So understanding that and the level of testing has been enormous. We're working with the governor's Some states are doing when they land they're doing very strong very powerful testing, please go ahead Okay, well then you'll check up again this is going to be horrendous Well, the thing that got me about that particular, he answers the question the guy asks him and then he says, then the reporter says, I check with the airlines and they don't know what you're talking about. Yes, exactly. The question hasn't been asked yet, so they don't know what Trump's saying. But somehow, before he even asked them the question, Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. Makes no sense. In fact, that press conference was an abomination in many ways. I have a number of clips of him

28:15 Given it to the press if I and I want to hear those right now, but I well deserved and I want to point out that what is happening with the press and a lot of these journalists I think there's some Second-string younger ones, you know, the old ones are all at home doing their own makeup and want to make sure that they don't die So send the young kids out But they are not being journalists. They're debating the president and They're debating him. He'll start saying the interrupt debate. No, but you said, but this is not right. How can you go? But how is it? It's like shut up for a second. It's really, yes, it's disturbing what they're doing and it's not productive and the questions are insulting if not completely stupid.

29:09 Yes, it's an embarrassment. Let's play. I want to hear what you got. Let's play. Well, I got a couple of them. Let's play. Let's start with Trump calls out media for panic. Okay, hold on. I don't see that one. There, under Trump. Yeah, he says Trump calls out media. Ah, okay. This is odd. It's not in alphabetical order. I'm sorry. Here we go. Really our sole consideration. We want to save lives. We want as few lives lost as possible. It's therefore critical that certain media outlets stop spreading false rumors and creating fear and even panic with the public. It's just incredible. I could name them, but it's the same ones, always the same ones. I guess they're looking for ratings. I don't know what they're looking for. So bad for our country.

30:07 And so bad, the people understand it. You look at the levels and approval ratings, and they're the lowest they've ever been for media. It's so bad for our country, so bad for the world. You gotta put it together for a little while, get this over with, and then go back to your fake news. Eh, I'll agree and disagree with him. Yes, it's very bad, so bad for the world, but the ratings are off the hook. Yeah, he kind of suggested that. Yeah, they are off the hook. Try this one. Trump News Conference blast reporter. Yes. We're hearing from a lot of small business owners a lot of concerns about whether they will get this money. Some say some of the banks weren't ready yesterday to start processing loans.

30:56 Some banks are layering. And some banks are doing extra restrictions on people. They've done billions of dollars of loans to small business and these are great loans. These are loans that get immediately paid off. These are loans that get businesses back. I wish you could ask a question where something's working so well. Now, maybe things won't work well, and I don't mind that kind, but where something's working so well, and you ask a question in such a negative way. It's doing great. Yeah, go ahead. Did you get the clip of the reporter, I forgot to get this one, of the reporter saying, there's a rumor that the checks are going to be delayed for four months because you insist on signing them?

32:00 No. I did get this one. This one is under the word funniest. This is funniest truck. I thought this was the absolute moment of moments. You guys ever stop? Do you want to keep going for a little while? Huh? I mean, do you ever stop? How many times you ask? And in many cases, it's the same. Actually, a lot of good questions. Go ahead. Keep going. Yes. So you're not going to blame me that I kept it going too long. People said, oh, we kept every time you'll ask it. No, I mean, no, it's amazing. Tony, every hand went up. I thought we've gone through the every I think every single hand went up the last time.

32:41 You know what it shows you it shows you that you love what you do go ahead You do know you do and some of you do it. Well not all of you I'm not looking at you by the way If I can insert one I got one from Jim Jim Acosta from CNN and and and I'm playing this for a couple reasons one so you can hear again just in insult to the public to the public does watch these I think that maybe the Maybe the journos forget that when they're sitting in the briefing room, like, make sure you get me on camera, but don't worry about it. It's just for the package for tonight or whatever. But people watch it and then they come across as douchey. And Trump has been doing something very consistently, which I want to ask you a question about. Mr. President, you have said nobody could have seen this pandemic coming.

33:30 But in fact, Secretary Azar at a biodefense summit in April 2019 said, of course, the people, of course, the thing that people ask what keeps you most up at night in the biodefense world, pandemic flu, of course, I think everyone in this room probably shares that concern. Your own health and human services secretary was aware that this had the potential of being a very big problem around the world, a pandemic of this nature. Who dropped the ball? Well, I always knew that pandemics are one of the worst things could happen. There's been nothing like this since probably 1917. That was the big one in Europe. It started actually here and went to Europe, probably.

34:12 I've heard about this for a long time, pandemics. You don't want pandemics. And I don't think he was talking about a specific pandemic. He was talking about the threat of a pandemic could happen and it could happen. So a douchebag gotcha question to literally say who dropped the ball. OK, thanks, Jim Acosta. But why? When the Spanish flu is commonly known to have started in 1918, why is the president so consistently saying 1917? This has got to be some kind of message that we're not understanding. Well, there is a there is a alternate theory that's been floating around that it actually began in the United States. Yes, I it's that theory is also listed on the wiki page. Yes, and if you

35:05 there's a number of problems with that theory. One is how to get over there when everyone's coming back from there, which is a logically inconsistent modern theory. The theory only showed up in the 40s, I think, or the 50s, or even later, maybe the 60s. But somebody did some research and found somebody dropped dead at some Kansas park. bunk somewhere in the army and they I don't know how it somehow spread in the opposite direction. I just think it's bogus and I think somehow he's gotten he bought into that thesis and he's just going along with it. I don't think it's important one way or the other. Well, I take these... he doesn't do things accidentally. No, I agree. That's a fact. So just taking the statement at face value, if you look at the wiki page, which may be the source of his information for all I know,

35:57 1918 is the date that the, if you look at the United States theory, that it started in 1918 in Kansas. If you look at the United Kingdom theory, as it started in the United Kingdom, it says in late 1970 military pathologists reported the onset of a new disease with high mortality that they later recognized as the flu. And this was at I see this virologist John Oxford and they had a camp of a hundred thousand soldiers and that's where they studied it or they introduced it. I don't know. But that's so maybe he's trying to say yeah some people say we did it but we know it really started in 1917. How about that? Is it is that

36:43 Wow. I mean what else are we gonna do? I mean it's it's just odd and annoying that he can and when he first started saying it people were laughing like what an idiot he's saying it all wrong now they don't do that anymore but he continues to say it so I'm just trying to figure out the small stuff. I have no idea. The 1917 doesn't bother me as much as attributing it to Kansas, which is isolated and all of a sudden becomes a worldwide phenomenon. I just don't see it. Now, as to the question of the Health and Human Services Director being well in the know, over a year ago he knew it was coming. How did you drop the ball, you stupid orange man idiot? Here's Fauci.

37:25 Fauci is America's doctor now, America's pandemic doctor. In 2017 at George Washington University, it's just interesting the way he phrases pretty much the same information. Given as you heard from the introduction that I have been around for a while and have had the opportunity and the privilege and the pleasure of serving in five administrations, I thought I would bring that perspective to the topic today is the issue of pandemic And if there's one message that I want to leave with you today based on my experience, and you'll see that in a moment, is that there is no question that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases, both chronic infectious diseases in the sense of already ongoing disease, and we have certainly a large burden of that,

38:20 but also there will be a surprise outbreak and I hope by the end of my relatively short presentation you'll understand why history, the history of the last 32 years that I've been the director of NIAID will tell the next administration that there's no doubt in anyone's mind that they will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with. So I like this because he says surprise outbreak It's like, okay, I mean, just interesting that he would use that term, surprise outbreak. But more interestingly, if you really listen to what he's saying, I think what he's saying after that is, if you look at my history, you'll know you're going to be scared shitless.

39:08 Listen again to the second part, listen to it. But also there will be a surprise outbreak and I hope by the end of my relatively short presentation you will understand why history, the history of the last 32 years that I've been the director of NIAID. So he's saying the history of my being a director for the past 32 years, not the history of pandemics know his history. That's what I'm hearing him say. The history of the last 32 years that I've been the director of NIAID will tell the next administration that there's no doubt in anyone's mind that they will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with. Seeing as he seems to, wherever he goes, pandemics show up, maybe that's true.

39:54 five administrations and his his tentacles reach much deeper than I ever imagined and his job is to scare people Witness dr. Drew who is backpedaling a little bit. He is now saying hey, you know for all the things I said, I'm optimistic but this does seem to be a little different than the flu and And I've been following Dr. Drew very closely and so it would be weird for me to stop believing what he's saying now. He's being cagey, but he reveals something. About his connection to dr. Fauci, which is telling I've been trying to stay optimistic the entire time I would say the main thing I think that's changed on with the sort of the ferocity of this illness the fact that it's able to You know really cause a crash all of a sudden out of the blue even in young people and that's that's a feature of this illness that I wasn't aware until it sort of landed here stateside and

40:52 I'm still optimistic. I still believe no one's more innovative and responsive than the US healthcare system. I believe we're going to start knocking down the hospitalization rate, the death rate, the inactivity. I'm still optimistic. And being optimistic is something that makes people angry. I'm sorry. But I'm still very optimistic in spite of the fact that I'm completely signed up. I was from the beginning. I've also been saying follow Dr. Fauci, whatever he says, that's what we got to do. The reason I got on the radio in 1983 is because I was part of the army that Dr. Fauci put together back then. I was working on the front lines of the AIDS epidemic and we were chanting about

41:32 10 million deaths, 10 million deaths, there's going to be millions of dead if we don't talk to educate people about this illness and how it's transmitted. Now, we were off by a factor of 100 in terms of our predictions then, and we congratulated ourselves for scaring the hell out of a generation and hopefully changed their behavior. But really what changed the course of that illness was therapeutics. The fact that we came up with effective treatment to turn AIDS from a death sentence, which is what I was dealing with in my training and early career, to a chronic illness. And I think we're gonna get the same thing here. I just have great faith in our

42:08 innovation in US health care. So did Dr. Drew get a recall into the Fauci army? Did he get a little knock on the door, say chill out we got it you're making it sound too easy this is no good? And sounds like something changed and and he's slipping the therapeutics in there. But that is also not really the message of Dr. Fauci or anyone behind him, which we've now determined the data they're presenting. Dr. Burks is presenting is from health data dot org, 100 percent funded by the Gates Foundation from its inception in 2005 up until the most recent funding round of a quarter quarter of a billion dollars.

42:52 from the Gates Foundation and of course it's run by Chris Murray who used to work for World Health Organization, Rhodes Scholar, he has all the qualifications. That's the data that's being presented to us for the curve. We had a switcheroo. First we were using the imperial model, then Neil Ferguson had to say, well, you know, this is going to be different. Something's made up about because we didn't take mitigation into account, okay, So now we've gone from two million dead in the US to 200,000. Now it's 160,000 is what's expected because the models are just overestimating everywhere. And all of this points back to Bill Gates and Bill Gates has been very active in the media. I have a couple of clips but perhaps the most telling was shown by Chris Hayes and just to set the stage of how much Bill Gates hates Donald Trump

43:47 that on a recent Foundation video chat, which for some reason Chris Hayes is allowed to put on television, Bill Gates spoke extensively about Trump and none of it was flattering. As you can imagine, some of it just, well, what you'd expect. You ever wonder what people who've actually met Donald Trump, especially powerful, successful people in American business and beyond, who've had to try and interact with him because he's the leader of the free world, say about those encounters behind closed doors? All In has obtained some never-before-seen footage that gives you a good idea of what one of the wealthiest men in the world, Bill Gates, thinks of the president. Bill Gates took questions during a recent Gates Foundation meeting with staff and he talked about meeting Donald Trump.

44:30 Yeah, so I never met Donald Trump before he was elected. There was a thing during the election where he and I were at the same place and I avoided him. Anyway, then he got elected and so I went to see him in December. No matter how rich you are, you still got a virtue signal. Isn't that interesting? One of the richest guys in the world still has this need to virtue signal to his audience. It's sad. Avoided him. Anyway, then he got elected and so I went to see him in December.

45:12 He knew my daughter Jennifer because Trump has this foreshowed thing down in Florida. In fact, he went up and talked to Jen and was being super nice. And then, like 20 minutes later, he flew in in a helicopter to the same place. So clearly he had been driven away, but he wanted to make a grand entrance in a helicopter. Anyway, so when I first talked to him, it was actually kind of scary how well he knew, how much he knew about my daughter's appearance. But Melinda didn't like that too well. Oh, let's just point out he's really creepy. He's really into young girls. Yeah, it's creepy. Then the second time I saw him was the March after that.

46:07 that. So March 2017 in the White House. In both of those two meetings, he asked me if vaccines weren't a bad thing because he was considering a commission to look into ill effects of vaccines and somebody, his name is Robert Kennedy, This is my favorite. Are vaccines safe? The president wanted to know and he's talking to somebody I don't know some guy named Robert Kennedy Jr. or something like that. It's just a fucking nobody who cares about you know I can't remember the guy's name what was it again? Because he was considering a commission to look into ill effects of vaccines.

46:48 and somebody, his name is Robert Kennedy Jr. was advising him that vaccines were causing bad things and I said no, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that. Both times he wanted to know if there was a difference between HIV and HPV, so I was able to explain that those are rarely confused with each other. Okay, so you get the idea? Not a lot of regard for the president. He's just an idiot. I'm sure that's exactly what he said. Hey, is that HIV the same as HPV, just a different letter? I'm sure that's exactly what happened. So, let's see what the Gates plan is. I think we need to set it up properly. Global controls will have to be opposed. To transfer new sovereignty and world governance.

47:50 Yeah baby! Life's gonna change! Let's start it off with Bill Gates. This is from a CBS interview. He doesn't want anyone to go back to work. He's on board, well of course he's propagating to Fauci, we really need to just keep the whole country shut down. Microsoft co-founder and billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates is urging the federal government to shut down the entire country to save lives.

48:28 So far, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has donated $100 million to fight the coronavirus. They're focused on detection, isolation and treatment of the virus and finding a vaccine. Gates says the US failed to get ahead of the outbreak, but it's not too late to make up for lost time. Yes, he wants the entire country shut down and this is a big problem because people don't understand why this can't happen I mean, can we just shut down the country? I mean, this is so easy. Here is Savannah Guthrie on the today show asking dr Fauci about it Fauci disciple and business partner of Gates. Can I ask you about that? You know more states yesterday started having these stay-at-home orders but not all states do and even the states that do say

49:14 some have exemptions. Florida exempts religious services in some cases. I thought New Hampshire had exempted florists at one point. Arizona had exempted hair salons at some point. I mean, with all due deference to states, shouldn't there be a national It's just so irritating. We have this issue. When can we get rid of that stupid issue?

49:58 With the states. I mean are you crazy? People do not understand the civics of the United States. I doubt Savannah Guthrie can even find any state on the map. It is and Fauci has been saying this in other places again. He's been I think he's been asked to roll back a little bit, but he it's coming out as about this. I can't believe what what are we so backwards? We don't have health care for everybody. We can't tell the states what's to do. You know, and this is particularly pushed by the Democrats who want two things. Yes, they're the national government, globalist people. Yes, they want the national lockdown, martial law essentially because you have to police it, and they also want the Defense Production Act to be rolled out across every single country, every single company in the country.

50:48 They just keep pushing for these truly fascist things. That's also socialist demand economy. We want you to build this. We want you to build that. We want you to build. We're the central authority. We want you to build this. We want you to get to work on this and that'll solve everything. So, has Bill Gates actually ever spoken to the president amidst all of this, seeing as his data is being used, his companies are being used, his people are being used, his disciples are being used? You've been in touch with leaders in Washington. Have you talked with the president about this? I've not talked directly to the president. Our foundation is trying to be as helpful in a very constructive way as possible, and that's why

51:31 I've talked to the head of the pharmaceutical companies. We've talked to a lot of the agencies, including CDC and NIH about how we work together on the vaccine and the drugs. I don't like his little laughter anywhere in that at all. It's like, no, I haven't talked to the president, but I'm talking to everybody. I'm talking to all the agencies, all the pharmacies. I'm like the president. I'm really the president. I know what's going on. Oh yeah. Thanks, Bill. Let's see what he really would like. Back in 2015, you warned that we were not ready for the next epidemic. Why aren't we better prepared? Well, in fact, very little investment was made, for example, being able to ramp up diagnostic capacity very quickly. Our foundation and some other governments did work

52:24 on some new vaccine platforms which are the most promising. But sadly because you can't estimate the risk And it was something I was trying to talk about and thought we had some engagement on, but then actually the personnel in this area were cut back. You know, I think... Let's just revisit what he's saying. He's saying, hey man, we were all cool. We had the vaccines ready. We could have been saving people right now. But unfortunately, Trump defunded that part within the CDC, which was exactly what the what the solution was going to be. Set up, big set up from Bill Gates here. By the way, before you go on, he also equates his foundation with national governments. Well, of course. Of course. That's what he said. Our foundation and other. Let's listen to that again. Why aren't we better prepared?

53:22 Well, in fact, very little investment was made, for example, being able to ramp up diagnostic capacity very quickly. Our foundation and some other governments did work. Great catch. Probably has more money than most other governments on some new vaccine platforms, which are the most promising. But via the vaccine platforms that were the most promising but... Sadly because you can't estimate the risk and it was something I was trying to talk about and thought we had some engagement on but then actually the personnel in this area were cut back. I think this time people understand that this is a trillions of dollars event, it's going to be hundreds of thousands of lives on a global basis.

54:14 I think now people understand why those alarms were raised and that for the next one we will be far more ready than we were for this one. Well, what does opening up look like to you, Bill? Can we all just get a test, just a simple test that says, yeah, you've had it, you're clear, you're an uninfected human resource? You know, it's really unprecedented. Even the issue of once you get the case numbers down, what does opening up look like? You know, which activities, like schools, have such benefit and can be done in a way that the risk of transmission is very low, and which activities, like mass gatherings,

53:22 Well, in fact, very little investment was made, for example, being able to ramp up diagnostic capacity very quickly. Our foundation and some other governments did work. Great catch. Probably has more money than most other governments on some new vaccine platforms, which are the most promising. But via the vaccine platforms that were the most promising but... Sadly because you can't estimate the risk and it was something I was trying to talk about and thought we had some engagement on but then actually the personnel in this area were cut back. I think this time people understand that this is a trillions of dollars event, it's going to be hundreds of thousands of lives on a global basis.

54:14 I think now people understand why those alarms were raised and that for the next one we will be far more ready than we were for this one. Well, what does opening up look like to you, Bill? Can we all just get a test, just a simple test that says, yeah, you've had it, you're clear, you're an uninfected human resource? You know, it's really unprecedented. Even the issue of once you get the case numbers down, what does opening up look like? You know, which activities, like schools, have such benefit and can be done in a way that the risk of transmission is very low, and which activities, like mass gatherings,

54:54 may be in a certain sense more optional. And so until you're widely vaccinated, those may not come back at all. He wants us all to get vaccinated. He really doesn't want people having it, getting over it. No, no, no, no, no. In fact, he wants it to be kind of like the movies if he could be the hero. Do you think we're going to think about pandemics differently from now on? Well, that is for sure. You know, there were a few movies. They weren't that popular. about this and to make them at least a little bit popular they usually had some miracle happen at the end where some hero invented something and boom everything was back to normal. No, the awareness of this is a threat and probably the biggest threat

55:42 to kill tens of millions of people. Hold on, did he say the awareness of this is the threat? That's exactly what he said. He said the awareness is the threat, which is the threat. That's the panic. Fear is the, you know, yeah. Let's listen to the last part. And probably the biggest threat. Back a little. Everything was back to normal. No, the awareness of this is a threat and probably the biggest threat to kill tens of millions of people, that will be permanently embedded. So this time I do think... Apparently the awareness is also going to kill people. Yes, but it's permanently embedded now. That will be permanently

56:24 So this time I do think we will get ourselves ready for the next pandemic. Oh, it's just a test run. Oh, okay. We'll be ready for it next time. It'll be firmly embedded in our psyche that we'll all flip out. These people do not have humankind at the front of mind for them. This is not what this is about. diluted at this point. The Chinese are already doing a form of, we have all kinds of initiatives of course, but the QR code may be one way that we start to get back to work. This little QR code is a lot more powerful than it looks. It helps collect data about your travel history, health status and more. And China's using it to track citizens and stop those infected with the coronavirus. First, you fill out a questionnaire. It asks for details like your body temperature.

57:17 It then generates a color code, and at checkpoints popping up across China, green means go. It's my first time to come outside after the epidemic, but I already used the QR code several times, and I think it's good. It's proof of your identity, our country is upgrading, and I think it's good to carry it out. The codes are being scanned everywhere from restaurants to apartment blocks. Major cities and more than half of China's provinces have started to use the color codes, a way to make tracking down infected people easier for authorities. This is the 9-11 of this age. Things are going to change. You're going to have marks, marks that say you're good, you're not good.

58:05 You know, you're gonna have to have some kind of certificate, which Gates, of course, would love for that to be digital. Here it is, listen to this. Eventually what we'll have to have is certificates of who's a recovered person, who's a vaccinated person. You hear that? That's a very distinct difference. He wants to have certificates that show not healthy. No, no, no. If you are vaccinated, which means you're the best human being, Or if you just recovered. Eventually what we'll have to have is certificates of who's a recovered person, who's a vaccinated person. I suggest yellow stars. I think these have worked well historically. Just break that out. We haven't had that in a while.

58:50 So what do you think, John? I mean, it seems like there is some real sickness. There's some real conflicting information on what's happening with people, how they're being treated. At the same time, there's this incredible agenda to push us towards, and we haven't really discussed it much because it's such an old trope, vaccinations. But testing, testing, testing has been the mantra from day one, certainly from Nancy Pelosi. So maybe the idea is everyone's got to get tested so we do have you down. We got you down. We got your cell phone. Google is not bashful of saying they're just handing over the data to everyone who wants to use it. Every state, every county, any municipality. And that's not cell tower triangulation. It's Google Maps and all their other ways of doing it and the apps that are on your phone.

59:37 So where does this leave us? I mean, what can we believe? It leaves us in the direction they've been trying to push us before Trump came along and kind of upset the apple cart, which is one of the reasons I'm sure Gates is not too happy with Trump and has to make up stories now like HPV, HIV, same thing. Yeah. So, um, So you're trying to get us back on track toward the one world government because there's a lot of messaging about, well, this would be better if it was coordinated worldwide. And then we have the Fauci and Gates going on about it would be better if there was one national government because the national government could make everybody stay home in the whole country, even though certain states, like Trump said in the press conference, there are a number of states when he was grilled about this.

1:00:22 that have not put the stay in place order in because there's a state, and I don't know which states they are, but he says there's eight or more of them, and I'm guessing it's a state like Montana, where there's not even very few housing tracts. I mean, there is some around some of the cities, but generally speaking, it's wide open. There's no reason to shelter in place when you're in an area like that. And so, I don't know. And then there's and then the other thing which is not mentioned, of course, is this Trump promoting this this drug that Fauci resisted at first, is that he continues to resist it. Quite honestly, he keeps deflecting.

1:01:03 Yeah, he does. He just does not want people using this drug, which apparently works. And Trump keeps dropping these little bombs in there. Yeah. And I don't have the clips for this, but he talks about how lupus patients have never gotten coronavirus because that's the drug that they use. Yeah. And and that Africa doesn't have it because there's such a high proliferation of anti malarial drugs. Yeah, and this is the anti-malarial drug that keeps, and the other one is the kicker though, the one that's gonna be the one that has to be studied and has to be looked at eventually is India. Because India is the place that manufactures that drug. It's the main manufacturer of it and they could have, they have the easiest access to it. And they are also the most crowded, cramped conditions. There's no stay at home order. You don't think you can even get one to work.

1:01:50 If India doesn't have at least a, I don't know, half a million dead by the end of this thing, like in other words in two or three weeks, then something's up. They're trying other things as well. This is my favorite. But do you think every state in this country should be prepared for mail-in voting? No, because I think a lot of people cheat with mail-in voting. I think people should vote with ID, voter ID. I think voter ID is very important. And the reason they don't want voter ID is because they intend to cheat. When you get something, when you buy something, you look at your cards and credit cards and different cards. You have your picture on many of them, not all of them, but on many of them.

1:02:31 You should have a picture on your, on your, for voting. It should be called voter ID. They should have that. And it shouldn't be mail in, excuse me, it shouldn't be mail in voting. It should be you go to a booth and you proudly display yourself. You don't send it in the mail. Okay. Yeah, who wants now that someone is actually pushing for mail-in voting? Come on. In Washington state, there's only mail-in voting. Historically? It's been, as long as I know, 20, 30, 40 years. I don't know how long it's been going. Wow, I didn't realize. Yeah, there's I think maybe more states than just Washington. These rural states, they, no way. So the thing that

1:03:20 I can't quite put my finger on, but what concerns me the most is how the fear really got sparked, how it really started to spin out of control. And I think it was the moment when the media flipped from basically agreeing with Trump, although they were pushing back because he had instigated the China travel ban, They're like, oh it's not much, it's pretty easy. We had Pelosi out in Chinatown in San Francisco saying it, de Blasio in Chinatown in New York saying come on down party, it's not a problem. Everybody, so it was kind of, they were pushing back on the president because he had said don't trust China and he had cut off the China flight. So it's almost as if that was the problem

1:04:09 China specifically, then suddenly it flips. And I think it was when Trump started saying China virus, Chinese virus, then the media went all in against him first with your being racist and then within a matter of a few days you were slow, you messed it up, people are gonna die. I can only think China had a hand in this flip. And if they did, they're powerful, man, because that was coordinated and it went fast. Fox News was fear-mongering as well. Tucker Carlson has been fear-mongering from day one, which discredits these lawsuits against Fox, who say that Fox was being irresponsible, whatever.

1:05:00 Well let's listen to the nightline show on ABC, you wanna hear something kind of along those lines. This is, first I'll play an opener so you can get a, well actually I'm not gonna play the opener, let's play the real deal. This is Byron Pitts. And this is what you just said, this is kind of what the accusations are now. He throws a zinger, one of these accusations at Pence, who's on his show. And I have to say, Pence is the old-fashioned style of politician. You don't get to see it much. Wait, wait. Sorry, sorry. He's the old-fashioned kind of politician, don't get to see it much. He deflects, not only deflects, but he answers a different question in a very slick way. And the thing is that this is so obviously scripted, and I have another example of it, it's so obviously scripted that this Byron guy, he just reads the scripted question and doesn't care what Pence says because he doesn't do any follow-up. Let's go.

1:05:59 Mr. Vice President, I have a final question for you. And I ask this not in a political way, but for you, sir, like so many of us in our nation, you are a person of deep faith. No one doubts that. When you talk to God in your moments alone, do you find yourself worrying at all that people you represent and care deeply about have died and will die who did not need to because of steps the federal government did not take soon enough? Well, thank you for mentioning that we are talking about one American at a time. And I promise you that's the way President Trump thinks of this. It's the way I think of it. We wanted the American people to see the numbers so that we understand the challenging days that lie ahead.

1:06:43 But I want people to know that our future is in your hands. That if every one of us will do and put into practice the guidelines for America, that we can bring those numbers down. I really do believe him. We'll get through this and we'll come out stronger than ever before. Vice President Mike Pence, thank you sir. Godspeed to you. Pence is showing what he's made of these days. In fact, I think the Democrats are more afraid of him now because he does know how to do this kind of stuff and he's a crazy Christian man!

1:07:20 Who needs it? Earlier in the conversation, this is the original, one of the early Byron Pitts questions, it's called The Opener. And this is again showing Pence answering a different question and just getting, blowing right by the guy. And it's like so slick. I mean, in that last one you heard him say, well thanks for that because this is what we, you know, I'd never seen such a deflection before. It was very good, yeah, it did a good job. But yet governors, both Republicans and Democrats, say they don't have what they need. On our air every single night, sir, we have doctors, nurses, foot soldiers on the ground who with tears in their eyes say they don't have what they need. How do you explain that discrepancy?

1:08:03 We are leaving no stone unturned to make sure that our health care workers on the front lines have the protective equipment to be able to do their job and stay healthy while they do it. We're speaking regularly, particularly with governors in New York and New Jersey and Washington and California and areas where there's been significant outbreak. We've been surging resources into those areas, whether it be the N95 masks that health care workers need to wear or whether it be ventilators or gowns or gloves and I promise you we are we're delivering those by the millions we're ordering them by the millions he does it was such an interesting cadence and urgency that by the time he's almost at the end of his answer you forget what the question was yeah it's really good that's old-fashioned that is old school and they're not used to it apparently

1:09:01 Well, not in this way. He does it he has a singular way of doing it. It's very and his eyes are his eyebrows are both Pointing toward the middle and you know, there was his eyebrows are lifted toward like a dog, you know, like the like the sad dog where you know, he goes up in the middle and Droops on the right. Yeah, he makes good use of that He's got this look. He just feels like we're petting him. But back to China for a second. So we just saw another Chinese CCP, Chinese Communist Party PR move with the Nets owner in collaboration with Jack Ma and the other co-founder of Alibaba bringing masks over. Oh, China sent this, China sent this is what everyone wants you to hear. China's helping us.

1:09:54 So that's the NBA China owns the NBA practically, but the media John I mean Is it all really that I know them Chinese money is everywhere, but maybe it's much further than we realize I mean for all the media to switch on a dime within maybe 48 hours Big and it's always surrounding something about China. It's a little Disheartening. I mean, I know that they're all pro-China and Trump sucks, but I mean, that's a total takeover of our information channels.

1:10:33 Well, ABC again, which is where you heard the two pence clips. ABC is very entwined with China for both having amusement parks over there, Disney, and having a lot of production of the movies, Disney movies, being paid by the Chinese. The Chinese, their infiltration is quite good. Think they've infiltrated probably all the major medias because there's not one major media outlet doesn't have an entertainment component but also recall The governor's you remember Pompeo Speaking to the governor's do you remember that? You know saying a lot of the Chinese have a file on you. They know which of you governors are are Amena bowl which of you are not amenable. Let me see. Maybe I have that clip. That's a good clip We should play that again

1:11:29 What was that again? I'm sure it's got Pompeo's name on it. Yeah, yeah, it does of course, but oh here it is China Governors Conference. Maybe this is it here. U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had a warning for state and local lawmakers Saturday as he addressed the National Governors Association. Be wary of China. When it comes to doing business, I'm asking you to adopt a cautious mindset. Pompeo, a sharp critic of China, said Beijing seeks to exploit U.S. openness and freedom to undermine the United States. He said China is trying to expand its influence at the state and local levels, not just the federal level. It's happening in your states with consequences for our foreign policy.

1:12:14 for the citizens that reside in your state and states and indeed for each of you. Just last month US prosecutors charged Harvard University chemistry department chair Charles Lieber with lying about his alleged links to the Chinese government. China has denounced Pompeo's past comments targeting Beijing and the ruling Communist Party as vicious attacks China's Foreign Ministry said his remarks reflect fear and arrogance. It's the thousand talents program That's that's what that one professor was arrested. He was part of the China's thousand or CCP's thousand talents program

1:12:50 Governors are doing deals, you know, it's Belt and Road initiative type deals. So maybe some of these governors who are making odd decisions or contrarian decisions or, I don't know, blocking hydroxychloroquine, who knows what kind of deals. I think it's much worse than we ever even imagined. I mean, I don't see no ReminiBeerOne showing up in our PayPal. Well, we'll see. I do know one thing. We're not getting Chinese money. We don't even get... I don't think we've even had one donor from China in the history of this show. We might have had one or someone who was in China at the time.

1:13:37 But it's, this is what no one is, of course no one's looking at it because they're, I think they're all in on it. Even de Blasio. How can you trust de Blasio? How can you trust Cuomo when for the past, what is it, seven years, China has owned the New York Times Square New Year's Eve celebration? They've owned it. Yeah, literally. I mean, with their promos, their people on stage, their ambassadors. So, is it really that bad? And can... I have a message for our friends of the CCP. You've got me. I cannot defeat, through any spam filtering mechanism, your incessant need to spam me with your cheap-ass no-touch thermometers. I can't block this stuff. I know you don't get any spam.

1:14:32 But the never gotten that the no touch the no touch thermometer. It's like it's like a it's a plague You can't get rid of it. No matter what you do unless you block the term thermometer So they're doing a good job on that. Very good job. Well, so the show China's tentacles into the American media in particular, it needs to be part of the post-mortem, so to speak, of this whole operation that's taking place. And it's not just the New York Times that does insert. In fact, maybe the New York Times is ground zero when you think about it. The New York Times is compromised because they have that big China daily insert and that's probably a big part of their revenue.

1:15:21 Certainly now when there are no more online revenues because the the blacklist filters have put coronavirus in everywhere So no one can advertise on a single page legitimate or not But the New York or the Washington Post also has a Chinese insert. Maybe yes, maybe Maybe it Washington Post New York Times run the chip both run the China Daily inserts. Maybe If you can compromise the Times, and that's not an if, by compromising the Times, all news flows from the New York Times these days. It doesn't seem like there's much original reporting going on. It has historically. The New York Times has always been the paper, when they say paper record, they're not joking about it. Right. So perhaps, well, it's clear that China has business relations. The CCP, I'm just going to say it properly because I got no beef against the Chinese people yet.

1:16:19 But the Chinese Communist Party, yeah. So they have influence and they change the news in the paper of record and that flows out to everybody else. I mean, all of these two publications, the Post and the Times, all the pundits come from there. They're on MSNBC, they're on CNN, sometimes they make it to Fox News, rarely. A lot of them, PBS loaded with them. PBS loaded up with them. So that's your connection there. The New York Times. Which needs to be discredited somehow. Yeah, well, good luck. Good luck with that. I mean, they even have home delivery. You have to remember the worst part is they also have their syndicate because most newspapers can't afford their enough writers or reporters or columnists. So they just

1:17:08 subscribe to the New York Times and Washington Post syndicates, and then you just run New York Times, so you run three. You run the New York Times stuff, so you have a lot of New York Times articles in the San Francisco Chronicle. You use the Washington Post, you run a lot of their articles and some other paper, and then you have the Associated Press, which is also possibly compromised in some way or another. But they have a lot of anti-Trump stuff on in the Associated Press, and when you read it, When you read some of these, the way these are written with the vitriol aimed at the president, it's just, it's screwy. And I think a lot of these reporters have been co-opted unbeknownst to them. I think a lot of them are sincere when they think that, you know, they have these thoughts. Or they have a great source who knows everything and that source feeds them, you know, the people familiar with the president's thinking.

1:18:04 No, it's bad. Did you see the article in the business section of the New York Times? Bail out the journalists? No, I didn't see that one. So I put a lot of links in the show notes. The easiest way to get is go to nashownotes.com. You can go to noagendashow.com and click from there, but nashownotes.com. Newspapers are failing at record pace right now. There are papers that are going from seven days a week to two days a week, but mainly newsrooms are letting their staff go. They're letting their staff go. It's hitting everybody. The New York Times is no exception and the journalists are now feeling it. And so here is sent, I guess, on behalf of the journalists.

1:18:49 And this is in the New York Times. The time is now to make a painful but necessary shift. Abandon most for-profit local newspapers whose business model no longer works and move as fast as possible to a national network of nimble, new online newsrooms. That way we can rescue the only thing worth saving about America's gutted, largely mismanaged local newspaper companies. The journalists. and then go on to say, well this should be a non-profit funded by outfits like Kaiser Health News, because there's no conflict there. It should be perhaps funded by Facebook and Google, who have taken all the advertising. Or maybe it should just be a rich sugar daddy. Maybe we could get someone with a lot of money, like, I don't know, maybe Gates can fund that, or Warren Buffett.

1:19:46 Not for a single second, even in the whole article, does it come up that people think of, well, maybe if we made something people would pay for because it's worthwhile. No, no, they just want money because this is essential business what we're doing here. And editors screw them. Publishers screw them. Now this is, this is... Because this has been attempted before with things, with sites like Pat a backyard, there's a bunch of these over the fence, there's a bunch of these little operations that try to syndicate. Nobody goes online that much. I mean, we do have a fairly successful online operation around here called Berkleyside. And it's a little left, but they actually do real reporting of local stuff, and it's generally pretty good.

1:20:41 But except for these kinds of exceptions, and it's still, I'm sure, just barely making any money because you just can't do it. It's just not doable. The mistake that everyone's making, I'll just say it, we're the living proof of it, the mistake is that you can have networks of anything. You can't monetize these networks. It does not work. We've tried it. With content today, the value for value model at a local, almost hyper-local, geographic level or geography of interest is the only way to go. I do not see another way of making it work and the distrust that people will now have in anything mainstream is only going to grow. Well, it's getting worse and worse. I mean, I had a link in the newsletter. People should look at that link to a video and I hope it's still up. I'd be surprised if they didn't take it down of some woman. You've seen her before. She comes on, she does these

1:21:39 fairly well-structured video pieces on YouTube showing all these hot sheets. They play a news clip from somebody and then they show, they go right immediately to the hospital where there's this big crowd supposed to be. There's nobody there. And it shows hospital after hospital, and they had some, followed some German guy around who went right into some hospital, roamed around. There was no COVID patients. And there's lots of documentation to show that this is being exaggerated by the mainstream without explanation, by the way. We don't know why they're doing it. I mean, maybe

1:22:15 I mean, we both know a common reporter who, and I can say she works for one of the news magazines. And she said that they were sending her out to do some LA coverage about the coronavirus and they kept going from, you gotta find a street that's empty. They went out of their way to find some area in LA where there was nobody, you know, for the scene set up. She says it took all day, but they found it. She says most of these reports are exaggerated nonsense. She's kind of a probably more of a right winger than the

1:22:55 the typical media reporter. And it's just a lot of this has just been phonied up. I mean, if you listen to just you just listen to the way they're presenting this stuff. I have a let me play these clips. This is Lester Holt. Lester Holt. I got three. I got a bunch of clips from him. Here's Lester Holt using words. More people have died in New York in the last day than in nearly the whole of March. The state's death toll doubling since Tuesday to more than 3,000. And tonight, new hotspots erupting across the country with still no national strategy or unified defense plan.

1:22:15 I mean, we both know a common reporter who, and I can say she works for one of the news magazines. And she said that they were sending her out to do some LA coverage about the coronavirus and they kept going from, you gotta find a street that's empty. They went out of their way to find some area in LA where there was nobody, you know, for the scene set up. She says it took all day, but they found it. She says most of these reports are exaggerated nonsense. She's kind of a probably more of a right winger than the

1:22:55 the typical media reporter. And it's just a lot of this has just been phonied up. I mean, if you listen to just you just listen to the way they're presenting this stuff. I have a let me play these clips. This is Lester Holt. Lester Holt. I got three. I got a bunch of clips from him. Here's Lester Holt using words. More people have died in New York in the last day than in nearly the whole of March. The state's death toll doubling since Tuesday to more than 3,000. And tonight, new hotspots erupting across the country with still no national strategy or unified defense plan.

1:23:35 Lock it down! We have the national strategy, but we also have the usage of the words, we've had more deaths than almost. Almost, yep. The whole of, you know, wait, what does that mean? It's almost, in other words, it's just a weasel word. And so he's putting this report together with a bunch of weasel words. Let's go with Lester Holton, New York anger. But here in the epicenter, the plea for help is piercing in its urgency. And with our team in place, New York is where we start tonight with Gabe Gutierrez. This is the emergency room inside Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn. Doctors now call it a battle zone. Everyone that's in here today is here due to breathing problems, almost uniformly all from COVID. Tonight, growing anger from the nation's coronavirus epicenter.

1:24:26 We are afraid for our patients, we are afraid for our families, we are afraid for our lives. At another hospital, these nurses are calling it a daily suicide mission with a lack of PPE, personal protective equipment. Yeah, again we just have more of this. This is what we were talking about earlier in the show. Let's get through these. Try clip two. This is life or death. Every hospital in the state of New York and across the United States should have the supplies they need. Governor Andrew Cuomo has now signed an executive order allowing the state and the National Guard to take ventilators and PPE from hospitals that have too much and redistribute them to those who need it most.

1:25:07 Am I willing to deploy the National Guard and inconvenience people for several hundred lives? You're damn right I am. Wait a minute, I gotta play a follow-up to that. Did you hear Gavin Newsom? Yeah. He's all in. If you want to establish a framework of martial law, which is ultimate authority and enforcement, we have the capacity to do that, but we are not at this moment feeling that is a necessity. Whoops, yeah. Gavin Newsom, governor of California. Martial law. We can do it! And I'll finish off with the clip three. Governor Cuomo says that more than 20,000 out-of-state medical volunteers have signed up to help. But late today, an emergency alert rang on phones throughout New York, urgently asking for more. Lester? How many people are infected? They have 20,000 people? I mean, now you want another emergency? We need more than 20,000? This guy, this Cuomo guy is really getting on my nerves. Well, yeah.

1:26:10 You know, they love him. He should replace Joe Biden. He should be the new candidate. Now, only three shows ago, I think we talked about how these celebrities are all on their lockdown and they're doing cutesy stuff and that's over. The hashtag Hollywood just found out has been trending and people are sick and tired of Hollywood celebrities complaining. And it's like, oh, complaining, look at your house. Yes, right. That's the irony of it. Oh, I've got to stay at home in my hundred thousand square foot mansion. Yeah, there's a lot of hate for the for the slubbies. Let me see what the latest is. Hollywood just found out they are non-essential.

1:26:59 Hollywood just found out no one cares how they look without makeup Hollywood just found out celebrities are not essential Donate some money to hospitals make an actual difference Hollywood just found out we can do without you again So, you know this the backlash is happening and combined with the stop the almost instantaneous stop of revenues that's gonna get the Chinese attention pretty soon and And it's only good for alternative media. I think people are sick and tired of what they're seeing. And what they're seeing is, production-wise, is so poor that your basic run-of-the-mill podcast is better.

1:27:46 Yeah, and more entertaining we figured out how to talk with Skype lags and gaps and double enders and reach arounds And we figured out how to light stuff at home. We figured out how to make a Room that is boomy sound like it's NPR with noise gating we figured all of this out where you guys been You know Hari Sreenivasan who does the weekend PBS show from his basement, he's got his back wall keyed, it's not a green screen but it's a key of some sort and he's lit in such a way that I swear to God you look at him and say, oh my God, he looks like Boris Karloff in a Frankenstein movie. He doesn't know how to light his own face. No, no, they have no idea. They're lost. Well, talking about that, here's, listen to the, here's a sound check. I've got a bunch of Bill Marklers, but this one is under Bill.

1:28:41 Mar this is the way his his last show came out because he's doing it from his basement. Oh my now is this an actual is he doing an actual sound check or is this you know no no this is my sound check of his this is the real on the air sound. Here we go. Right. we are delighted to have the presidential candidate and independent senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders is with us as he has been many times on our show, never under such circumstances. Bernie, you are a guy who was seen a lot of things. Where do you place this crisis in American history? Never in my lifetime, Bill. What we're looking at now is absolutely unprecedented. Wow, Bernie's mic sounds pretty good, actually. Actually, Bernie sounded pretty good, except he had some Skype breakup. And here's now we're going to go and these are the Mara clips. This is Mara. But wait. And there's two of these clips.

1:29:38 Apparently somebody is at his residence violating the rules. Oh. And they adjusted his mic. Because now his sound sounds pretty decent. He did somebody at the studio is wherever they're mixing this thing said, oh my god bill Can you go on? Mars Mike and fix it move his lab somewhere. And so now he actually sounds reasonably Okay, and I know he didn't do the adjustment. Well, let's go and play this clip. Which one is it? This will be the Mar on aid from Trump which really irked me I find one of the Stop I can tell you exactly what happened

1:30:17 He had a lav on, but the sound card selected the internal microphone instead of the lav or whatever. That's exactly what happened. Yeah, on the laptop or whatever it was on. Yes, you're right. That's exactly what happened. Every podcaster knows, but no, not the pros. I find one of the most galling parts of this is that the president is favoring certain states over the others. governors who are nice to him as he calls it, get a lot of attention and all the equipment they want. To me this is even more of an impeachable offense than what he did with Ukraine or Russia. How do you stop a president who is blatantly not the president of every state equally? How do you stop a president who sends

1:31:06 Aid to Florida for example because he likes the governor there, but not here to California or Illinois People are not stupid anymore they see through this stuff. You know what's that big ship in California? with a cross on it. Well, now Gavin Newsom has said that the president's done everything he can and the president's complimented him back. So then that's California. Meanwhile, Maher's saying, oh, here in California. Bullcrap. That's just a blatant lie. Which Bernie jumped right into, well it's crazy I can't believe it. Yeah Bernie's an idiot. So we can play the second part of this if you want. This, I've been saying for a number of years that if Trump loses the election he's not going to leave.

1:31:56 Now I notice a lot of people are talking about this very issue. If you are elected president and Trump gets out there and says, well, there were irregularities and it was rigged and it was this and it was that, and I'm not going anywhere until we find out what's going on. What do you do? Well, you mobilize the American people in a way that they have never been mobilized before. uh... to essentially remind this president that whether he likes it or not we live in a democracy uh... and that the majority of the american people through the electoral process uh... will determine who the next president is so uh... you know what you're describing is a nightmarish scenario with regard to democracy in america uh... do i think you're crazy and off the wall i suspect not

1:32:46 Oh, they said it about Obama, they said it about Bush, they said it about Nixon. Every president gets the... and although we're now the closest towards Marshall Law, he's gonna delay the elections. Where's that one? We need that one to pop up again. That'll be popping up. She's everything pop. I'd by the way. I have a coronavirus. I so you want to play this. Yeah. Yeah Let's see what we got here and we're always looking for a good eye. So it's going straight into the end spot Here we go coronavirus coronavirus coronavirus Yep, yep. Yep. I don't think I've anything that can beat that that's good. I like it a couple things to mention ah Sadly we lost James Maggie Majelis

1:33:34 He's the World War two vet that I hung out with if you remember John he He turned 103 not too long ago. He fought at the at the Battle of the Bulge and right He's one of the most decorated 82nd airborne paratrooper, and he passed away after contracting Whatever it is and of course didn't last too long in the hospital, so that's sad that we lost Maggie But of course paratroopers never die they just slip away And the former New York banker, this is something we haven't talked about too much, is what will the market do when we start to come back? And I have a new recovery pattern for you as predicted by the former New York banker. We were looking at a... This is replacing his V? Yes, we are replacing the V recovery. Now it's not going to be the L. Was L your pick?

1:34:35 It was Horowitz's idea. The L. You had the U was your idea. No, the former New York banker goes from a V recovery to a checkmark recovery. It's going to be a V and it won't stop going. Well, when it goes, if it starts going up past a certain point, past the old high into 30,000 range, it should go to 40. Yep. So he says checkmark recovery. Yeah, well, I'm glad he's so confident in that. When does it begin? Stand by. The longer we wait, the more it's likely to be the L. And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in celebrating 68, John C. Dvorak. Well, in the morning to you, Mr. Adam McCurry. Also in the morning, ships and sea boots on Rafi and the airships and the water and dames and knights out there. In the morning to our troll room at noagendastream.com. We'll do a quick troll count here, see what we got. Whoa.

1:35:36 Oh, we haven't quite hit the 2000, 1960 again today. Nice. Good to see you, trolls. And there's a lot of them in there. I see some new trolls. Welcome. Noagendastream.com is where you can listen 24 hours a day to the best podcasts, no interruptions, no commercials, no commercial interest. It's our media tribe. We have overlap. You will enjoy it. Come in, hang out with the trolls. Noagendastream.com. And while you're there, ask someone for an invite to noagendasocial.com. Oops. Hold on a second. My headphone just came unplugged.

1:36:15 I can give you out, but he's trying to plug himself back in. I can't seem to... I will do this. Get it reconnected. I can't even hear what you're saying. Hold on. It has to... Are you just... I come back and then all you're doing is playing the recorder? I was doing a song, yeah, for the people bored out there. That was so weird. I was... because I'm completely deaf with these things, with these ear tubes in, so I couldn't hear any... I couldn't even hear myself. All right. Anyway, I was gonna say get yourself an invite to noagendasocial.com. Of course anyone can interact with it through any federated Mastodon system, which includes bigger outfits like Gab and Twitter can't be far behind, trust me. That's noagendasocial.com. But first, before we go any further, we'd like to thank the artist for episode 1230. We titled that Avocado Cartel because boy, there is one.

1:37:14 The art came from Mountain J and she, it was like we violated our own rules for the second time in a row I might add, brought us the beautiful piece which popped really nicely, delivering essential services. There was a truck, a no agenda delivery truck and it did have 1230 on it. I can't quite remember How we got to this why we broke the rules for a second time it was the best piece on there Yeah, and I want to remind people I've said it before cuz somebody sent a note saying all the the art generators down again I said, I don't know and he said here's the piece I would submit it was a picture of the kovat virus I said it once and I'll say it again you put that on your art. You will not get picked So I'm not picking any art pieces got a kovat virus on it. I think it's a disgusting image and

1:38:12 Yes, whatever you said damn it I'm trying to think there wasn't there were some others. I'm looking at it now. There were some other things but No, yeah, it just really wasn't it maybe it was just us I don't know it happens. I've been in bad mood no, I think we're pretty happy with the mood overall and and seeing from the The content of some of the donation notes, people seem to be happy with the work we're performing. Yes, we're doing a yeoman's job supporting the mental health of the listeners. I want to thank Mountain J and all of our artists. Again, noagendaartgenerator.com where you should be able to upload. I think Paul Couture, Paul has got most of the bugs fixed. And it's definitely accepting artwork as we speak already.

1:39:05 That is part of our value for value system. Artists who are very talented, they put something up, we can use it. It's free for us to use, free for you to enjoy. It can get added to noagendashop.com for different goodies which benefits the artist, the shop and the show. And it's also just fun to go and see what's out there. Noagendaartgenerator.com. Now we'd like to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers of episode 1,231. We have some big donors today, a couple of them. Three, four, Sir Francis of SRQ, Duke of Southwest Florida comes in with 1685.00. Wow! And what does this number signify? I don't know. Let's find out. ITM Gents,

1:39:55 You know, the thing that bugs me is that little Skype box that keeps cropping up. Yeah, you gotta close it. I close it and it crops up again. Well, you gotta make sure that the main Skype window is closed too. ITM gents, greeting from the locked down Sunshine State. It would be a vast understatement to say that your work is not an essential part of dealing with the Dem panic. My donation today will elevate me to Duke. And as such, by the power invested in me as the now Duke of Southwest Florida, I'm declaring that the no agenda show is an essential business as defined by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, CSSA, Memorandum of Identification of Essential Critical Infrastructure Workers during the COVID-19 response issued on March 28, 2020. I believe that

1:40:48 That the media services is in that. Yeah, I need a certificate Business card like hey look at podcaster good to go sir. It's good to go Through the podcaster podcaster let me through let me go My family operates a food processing business here in Florida and many of our vendors can qualify as essential suppliers. I consider you a very important vendor of critical information, so I'm giving you the power to move freely within the state of Florida. Sorry that I am unable to help you in California and Texas and no jingles, no karma today as your plates are literally overflowing with an abhorrent media to deconstruct. I cannot thank you two enough for being, keeping us sane.

1:41:38 Sir Francis of the SRQ, Duke of South, soon to be Duke of Southwest Florida. Thank you, Sir Francis. Yeah, Viscount, he'll be a Duke in our title change today. Thank you for your courage. Yeah. Sir James Irvine from Foothill Ranch, California, $1,000 and 68, 1,068. Now the 68 is for my birthday. Ah, it's my birthday today. I know I said happy birthday You know, but promise we didn't promote it on the last show at all. I thought was a mistake. That was my mistake Yeah, well, I can't remember your birthday Yes, I knew it. I knew it Do you I'm sorry

1:42:19 He wrote a note in on the email and he says I've never found a way to add a note or I would have added this to my donation. Congratulations, John, my number 68 is next month. We're the same age basically. You both have been doing such an excellent coverage of this coronavirus or COVID-10 or SARS-2, COVID according to our own government. Thank you for keeping our amygdala small. Ike TM, Jim Irvine, Night of the RV. No, thank you. That was that was very nice. He's night of the RV good I'll put that in and we'll make sure we have that. Oh, it didn't show up there. No, I got it. It's good Oh, yeah, why would it did you watch sir James? Okay, anonymous comes in followed with $680 and 68 cents another birthday and that's a double birthday a double ender and

1:43:12 Anonymous NJNK, happy birthday. Thank you. Sir Jellyhead, $405. Happy birthday, Crankshaft. There you go. What to take me make of that? I'll take this next one. We got a lot to read. Sir Jobin of the Visual Effects, 33333 from Astoria, which is I think Queens, New York. I was knighted last year in May but haven't donated since. It's time for me to show my appreciation again and tell you how much No Agenda is helping my sanity during these strange times. Living in New York during the lockdown is awesome. I went biking down Fifth Avenue at rush hour last week and the streets were empty. This crisis has made New York a livable city.

1:44:01 Can I ask for baby-making karma? If this works, it'll be a lot cheaper than all the treatment we went through so far without any luck. Can I also get the John's While My Chair Gently Squeaks song at the end of the show? Actually, we have a lot of end of show ditties to play all coronavirus related so I do have an excerpt for you which I will gladly play now. Thanks for everything you do, long live the no agenda, Sir Jobin of the visual effects and I think we should give him that baby making karma because we might have some luck with that.

1:44:38 You thought. Karma. And here comes Sir Cal Lavender Blossoms in Northville, Michigan. $333.33 ITM. Folks, please stay strong and healthy so you can help me, help us, help me, so you can help with with our sanity. Could you also please broadcast our coupon code again? And it's ITM. As I see lots of support from the No Agenda community, thank you for that. Callavenderbossoms.org. Sure, Cal and the team. Jason D. Howard from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, $333.23. ITM says, Jason, I'm trying to keep this short and sweet so you can get back to some more good stuff.

1:45:38 I just want to say I really appreciate your independent and brutally honest analysis as well as your courage during these interesting times. Notice people like to say interesting times. Please accept this small value for value donation of $3.33. 23 on a side note I believe this donation will permit me into your night realm presuming that is the case I would like to be addressed as sir Howard sir henceforth Can you please supply the sirs and dames some scorching hot wings and fresh vitamin D milk to wash it all down in terms of musical entertainment? I hope to hear another personally selected jingle from sir Adam and also Please provide some positive karma to my family as well as my own smoking hot keeper who is dealing with a lot of unnecessary

1:46:22 Drama all the best to you and yours sir Howard sir. Yeah, I think we can do one of these full babies You've got karma Now we have $333 from Robert Taylor. I just looked him up on the squirrel mail. I can't find this note. If he has one, he's going to have to send it in later. We'd appreciate it. There was, I looked up the Taylors in this. All I got was a happy birthday wishes from a, a Lori Taylor who happens to be, it was an animated happy birthday from the Umpqua bank. So I just take a look real quick. What's his name? What's his first name? Robert, Robert Taylor. T A Y L R.

1:47:05 Nope, got nothing. Sorry, sir. Kevin strange in Norwich Norfolk UK 333 thank you both for your courage and service the last few weeks of the show have been outstanding the critical thinking skills you helped me develop over the years have kept me both calm and Prepared during this time of media fueled crisis hence my value for value donation before all my money is worthless due to hyperinflation which of course is not gonna happen. I now speculate that Kung Fu is either, or Kung Flu, Kung Flu is either a malicious lie propagated by the government so they can overreach on the stupid slaves to achieve their totalitarian tiptoe to the new world order, universal basic income and sovereign sky space based

1:47:53 digital cryptocurrency, a incompetent government overreaction to new tests, and they believe their own computer modelers BS because it suits their own money and power graph. Hold on, stop here, stop here. While that all may be true, it's not this time around. Big things happen, they take little steps. The other speculation, a Chinese bioengineered weapon that has the LNS strains as well as the same three to six month average incubation period of HIV AIDS without drugs. That governments know will have devastating effects on the masses in one to four months time, which is why they are preparing emergency hospitals and militarized police state lockdown. I am hoping for option two.

1:48:37 And not me, it doesn't sound good. Yes. Hey, you know, we have this is what I thought. Okay, let's go with his last point. Boots on the ground info from the UK. My RAF reservist friend received a letter asking him to sign up for six months work and was in a briefing this week at a local air base. My scout leader friend has been called up to the army reserves to help with Norwich at the Norwich airport being turned into an overspill hospital. Cheers. And his name is of course Sir Kevin Strange. Now surrender, Baron of the GPU. I will mention that we have a friend who works in the National Health Services in the UK.

1:49:25 And she reports back that there's nothing going on in her hospital. Yeah, I got a number of those from the UK as well. And I would like to point out, I got a really nasty email from someone. It's probably not a good idea right at this very moment to say the following to someone you're trying to hit in the mouth. If you say to them, they've got all the answers, they've got the best information, they break it all down. Be careful with setting these people's expectations because they come into the show and then hear something like this and and people don't get the humor right away and they get very mad and think they've been duped into listening to some whack job show. I literally had someone say, how come you didn't do good information on the last show? You went through all the theories and people hate me for turning them on to the show.

1:50:17 Well, if they can't hear that we're running through theories and we said that quite clearly then, you know, so just be careful with how you present it to people because People are very skittish. People are anxious, very anxious, anticipatory. But the best mode to get people into the show is to lock them in the car, drive them a long distances over and over again and make them listen to the show on the radio because you like it. Yeah. Then they maybe pick it up and realize that some of the stuff we do is we're trying. We're not trying to we're not gloom and doomers by our natures. No.

1:50:53 So we will reflect that mostly in our in our coverage zone with humor. We have humor this humor We got humor got humor stuff like that. So sir, sir, Kevin strange will become a Is a title change from Now it's just a baron. He's a baron. He goes from baronet to baron today. Okay, great And he's now surrender got it. Get it. Yep. Got it Daniel sheets in Winchester, Virginia 333 He needs a de-douching job. Screaming goat. It's been over a year since my last donation. I'm leaving the medical field after 11 years to focus on building my own business. Love the show and happy birthday, John. You've been de-douched. Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. You've got karma. Okay, you're up.

1:51:50 Oh, Dame Melody Fugazotto! And she... who knows where she is. The family has been torn apart because of the coronavirus. And she says, of course, she is the much better half of Sir Dave Fugazotto. I am new at this compared to my better half. He donates on his own, so this is from me and Dame Isabella. Sorry we missed the meetup last weekend. Please dedouche me? XOXO. You bet! You've been dedouched. That's so kind, Melody. Thank you. Dame Melody Fugazotto, everybody.

1:52:26 And Demi Sabella, so we'll put them both in the credits. She gave $333. Thank you so much. Very, very kind. Janosch Moser from Deutschland, Germany, appears. $300. Shalom! Seven statements from... no. Shaloyim, it says. Interesting. I don't know if that's supposed to be shalom or not. Seven statements from an ancient gospel translated into No Agenda language. One. There is no agenda to this universe and we are all born as douchebags. So please de-douche me. You've been de-douched. Uh, two. Three hundred is the number of God being the same in dimension A as he is in dimension B. Three.

1:53:13 Adam is the origin and John reveals the end of it all. Ooh, that's a good one. I like that. Yeah before 97.4% of mankind are NPCs that means 97.4% of me and you too because this world wouldn't be playable without this demonic basis of individuality Very deep five Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself six God appears to be an old white male But he still loves every single one of us equally and even all of us together seven ultimately all amygdalas will be healed goat karma to all producers of This universe and that's from Jack Janus. Oh I'm sorry Janush. Did I read that wrong now? I'm I

1:54:02 Genosh Moser. Yeah, Genosh Moser. There we go. 300 bucks, by the way. Yes. Okay. Let us give him some good karma. You've got karma. All right. Next is Amy from Wine Country in Healdsburg, California. $300.33. uh... please recite the following message dear cool cat john equally cool kitten adam thank you for deconstructing the b a a s feel free to insert i saw sheep by the bad as of the media sheep the bad as of the media sheep and route represent presenting us with the facts my smoking hot hobby hit me in the mouth last fall since then i haven't missed an episode in an effort to

1:54:50 Pay it forward. I have been hitting all my friends in the mouth. It is our duty as NA listeners and producers to spread the word about the best podcast in the universe. I will be a regular random donor as the funds become available. As I have my sights set on Dame Hood, I kindly request continued job cover for both me and my husband and myself. We work in the wine country and have weathered two fires, a flood, and now this COVID-19 craziness. Please give me a de-douching. You've been de-douched. Now to make Adams life invisible she does have some jingle requests luckily they're not outrageous one of them is don't eat me Bo Jaiden and that which is the little girl one and then Klobuchar's pretty Good and followed by that's true, which I could actually do if I was just gonna ad-lib the whole thing Well, you got yeah, no need to ad-lib and it's a job scar, am I correct? Yes

1:55:49 Don't eat me, BoJayden, you're scary, so scary! I think that sounds pretty good. That's true. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Yaaaaaaay! You got karma. And that's how it's done. Yes! We move down to the associate executive producers. You can take the first one. Yeah, Jack Janusso from Glendale, California, also paying tribute to my partner in crime with a $268.32.

1:56:25 Happy 68th birthday to John and 32nd to myself, he says. It's time for my yearly donation and no agenda. I'm inching closer to my knighthood. I wanted to contribute as boots on the ground report that runs a little contrary to Thursday's report. The digital ad sales are down. Aha. There we go. I work for an Omnicom agency in California. It's my old stomping ground Omnicom. The client account I'm on is one of the four big tech companies. Yeah, okay. And yes, while there is a hiring freeze and all employees are working from home, things are still full steam ahead as far as ad work goes with some aggressive deadlines to meet. They seem to increase the number of projects for us and added a couple of last minute rush jobs to get more ads out the door.

1:57:07 There have been some adjustments to the schedule for video ads due to lockdown and talent being unavailable for travel. But as far as digital online ads go, it's a bonanza! Perhaps the client didn't get word that their ad buys might be problematic appearing next to COVID-19 conspiracies, but I doubt they truly care as long as they can get a good deal. Anyway, thank you both for your courage and I could have get a shot of Birthday Karma, the Dvorak's Law commercial and a Trump don't trust don't trust China. That would be great. And yeah, I think We agree that the only companies to look at for growth are the Silicon Valley companies, but they're not making up for Johnson & Johnson's retraction of advertising, cancellation of so many events that really drive local advertising. Of course there's going to be winners, but the majority of this... When did you last see a Gillette commercial?

1:58:08 Well, you don't. Because there's no place to go get them anymore. I'll tell you one thing you can see lots of. My pillow! Yeah! Yeah, everybody! Well, hello. During this time of social distancing and economic uncertainty, you have questions about how it's affected Dvorak's Law. You know the one. We have the answers you need. Just dial 1-900-333-3333. And for only $3.33 per minute, we'll let you in on everything. Don't wait. Call now. Donald Trump don't trust China. China is asshole. You've got karma.

1:58:58 So come up to Allison Avon in Godfrey, Illinois at $250 and she has a note here. She says my husband I have been listening together since we were both working from home. All right. We appreciate your continued deconstructions, especially now in this crazy Rona world. we're living in. However, I don't appreciate his repeated lack of donating, especially since I've mentioned it at least five times in the past two weeks. I've donated on his behalf twice, and it's his turn. Please call Brad out as a giant douchebag. And while you're at it, call out his brother Matt too.

1:59:35 Related to these two douchebags enough is enough Step up gentlemen Allison Jocomini in Godfrey, Illinois, Jocomini way to go Allison and thank you for the handy pronunciation guide Jonathan Evans in New Orleans comes in with 250 bucks, and he did send a note in which I tracked down and And he says, as is any any jingles here, I shouldn't do it. It does. It's helpful. I don't see anything yet. OK, no problem in the morning. John, them donation completes my journey to knighthood. There's something you can deal with. Ah, John, I don't know. It's known as this is Jonathan Evans is going to be known as Sir Double Bladed Splice.

2:00:21 Sir Dumbledore Blade... Spice. Excellent. Splice. Splice. Splice? Splice. Splice. Splice. Splice. Like old splice. So is... I wonder what that refers to? Old spice, but it's splice. I discovered the show about two years ago and was immediately hooked even though I managed to hit my spoken hot girlfriend in the mouth so hard that in fact that she's often listened to the new episodes before I have. Oh, you've managed to hit her, okay. I work primarily as a film editor in the TV industry. About six months after discovering the show, I landed a gig shooting satellite news interviews for cable. CNN, MSNBC, Fox is working on one of those independent operations, I'm sure. I've even had a couple of interviews I shot played on no agenda.

2:01:16 Wow. Most recently, a James Carville clip from a month or two ago about our Democratic primaries. This first hand experience working in the media in tandem with the expert analysis found on the best podcast in the universe is made for a very interesting education. I'll bet it has. He's not working, he's working, I know what he's working for one of those operations like beyond pics in San Francisco which is a, they handle all the satellites, they do a lot of work and It's really pretty amazing to see what they do. Lastly, in response to the ongoing coronavirus situation, I made a short video about how New Orleans restaurants are dealing with the crisis. They're being hit very hard and I wanted to try and help out, so my partner and I put together a short documentary called This Is What We Do.

2:02:03 I was listening to No Agenda and Every Free Moment during the last couple of weeks while we made the movie. So I wanted to share this first video on our site at veryproductivepictures.com. Veryproductivepictures.com. It's a mouthful. If you'd like to watch it, there's also a YouTube link below. Happy birthday to John and thank you for all you do. Can I get some Jobs Karma for the commentary and some And some, okay, you need some Jobs Karma for the community and some Coke Zero for the roundtable. Okay, Coke Zero it is. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Nikka Karma. Alright, you're up. Just Coke Zero, huh? That's it?

2:02:50 No Coke Zero. Then we go to Lou Stemmler, double birthday! April 2nd, and he sent $250 from St. Louis, Missouri. April 2nd, aka Thursday, so I guess just missed the cutoff, is both my and my smoking hot sweetheart's birthday. Sarah Wilson turns an incredibly sexy 60 today. And he says, sending longer email and jingles, but just in case, thanks for your amygdala amelior... ameliorize... What is this word? Amelior... amelioration. It's not so easy when you're trying it. I did get an email from Lou.

2:03:34 And so he said, Sarah Wilson turned 60, had to postpone our Jamaican celebration trip, but I figure celebrating with no agenda is the next best thing. And I humbly request jobs karma for my son Rob, who recently graduated summa cum laude with his bachelor's in business and jingle request Monsanto. It's science by Dr. Kiki and any Reverend Al. And of course, the jobs karma. Here you go. Thank you very much, Lou. Shut up already! Science! R-E-S-P-I-C-T Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! Nikas, karma. Sir Jason, Knight of the River Rouge in Redford, Michigan, 23112.

2:04:29 Hi John and Adam, I would like to donate this to make my wife Mary Guillette an associate executive producer for show 1231. Please make a note. With my donation since 2015 this should also qualify her for a Damehood. Wow! My accounting will be sent via email to John. She shall be known as Dame Mary, Dame of the River Rouge, as my name is Sir Jason, Knight of the River Rouge. We live in Redford, Michigan. All by the River Rouge. No kidding. I'm sensing a theme. We would like some karma for this time of trouble. Thanks for everything, Sir Jason and soon to be Dame Mary. Looking forward to Dame Mary. Nothing for the round table? No orders? No nothing? Nope. That'll look great. Well, then I will throw in some goat for you right here. You've got karma. Goats ahoy! Brett Albert in San Ramon, California. 229.20.

2:05:31 Dearest John and Adam, jingles please. Hey you elites, China is asshole. Hey you elites. Hey you, hey you elites. I don't know. Hey you, elites! I think you're gonna have to do that one on the fly. I don't think we have anything good. Hey you, elites! Maybe you should just try it. Hey you, elites! Hey you, elites! Hey you, elites! Yes, China's asshole. That's true, little girl, yay on health, karma for the world. Even though it feels a lot like hype for a single serving of bat. I have been listening for almost two years and this is my first donation. Please dedouche me. You got it. You've been dedouched. Fantastic product you have here. Really helps even the

2:06:18 Really helps even this even the scale of the m5 and misinformation and your producers collective sanity Thank you for all the hard work and dedication you put into this quickly Became my favorite podcast until Dvorak revealed his fav the common-sense show Stop promoting other podcasts John Adam, great work on the JRE and to the lady doing animated no agenda. That's Jennifer Buchanan. Phenomenal. I'll work on the War and Peace for the U for the next time. Keep up the stellar work. We can all use it in these wild times. Best regards, Brett.

2:06:58 Hey, Santa Ramona, thank you very much Brett and yes Dame Jennifer deserves a lot of kudos that last one was good that she did I enjoyed it. Yes as short sweet and right to the point all right here We go your jingles. Hey you elites Donald Trump. Don't trust China China is asshole. That's true. Yeah Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs! We are at Sir Tristan Banning, Toronto, Ontario $200.68. Sir recognizing John, your birthday in the morning, gents. I generally don't write long notes, just make some witty rejoinder. But I wanted to say thank you for your analysis during this very unusual time. It is helping bring a level of calm that is completely lacking anywhere else. I'm making this donation on behalf of my smoking hot person, Holly Dunbar.

2:07:59 My smoking hot person? Hey you person! Holly Dunbar's, we've been listening while on lockdown it's been helping us stay sane. May I request some jobs karma for every no agenda producer who may be in need of it. Keep fighting the good fight. Thank you sir. Tristan Banning, Toronto, Canda-navia. And it was... Jobs karma. Yes jobs jobs jobs and jobs. Let's vote for jobs Now I have Katherine Richardson and Albuquerque New Mexico and I looked up the Richardson. I don't have anything except for the former Scott Richardson from a month ago. Mm-hmm So I don't know what exactly what's going on here. So I have nothing

2:08:49 So Catherine, if you have something to say, you want to say something, send us a note and we'll read it in the next show. And that is our list of Associated Executive Producers and Executive Producers for show 1231. I want to thank each and every one of them supporting the show and wishing me a happy birthday. I appreciate that more than anything. Yeah. And did you, uh, You didn't have a specific donation amount this time, which I thought was interesting that you did that. So did people make up their own? We got a lot of 68s I see. Oh, holy crap. People love you, man. This is the 68 was a specific donation amount. Fantastic. Well, I can't wait to thank those people in our second donation. And of course... Wait, it's the part of the note you wrote. Oh, that's why I didn't remember it. I sent that off last year.

2:09:40 You did it last year too. You do it every year. Every year for next year. See, I'm so on the ball. Thank you to our executive producers and associate executive producers. You can proudly display that title anywhere you want to, but please do it where it makes sense, where credits are recognized or appreciated. Certainly on job profiles such as LinkedIn, it does seem to have some success. You can say you are the proud associate or executive producer, associate executive or producer. of the No Agenda Show episode 1231. You could be one of those for 1232. That'll be our Thursday show. Please go and support us right now at... Dvorak.org slash N-A. Well, we know one thing for sure. It's gonna be test or cured. Our formula is this. We go out, we hit people in the mouth. Shut up, Wayne!

2:10:43 Shut up, Slade! or Matthew. ITM boys, I thank you on the social medias. I just wanted to send you a quick note about how the economy is affecting the trash business. Yes, this was a very good note. Yes, keep in mind, we will not read the end of the note. No, as requested. This anecdote was just going straight into the novel.

2:11:23 It does need to be published sometime. Yes, that was some good info. Because it makes nothing but sense. It makes nothing but sense. I wish I could say what it was. No, no, no, no. Keep in mind, I don't work for the government, but one of the large trash companies at a local division in Kalamazoo, Michigan, probably waste management or one of them. Might be. We are a subscription service with a few municipal contracts. There is three different lines of business, industrial, commercial and residential. I've worked in residential for 13 years. The industry line is losing accounts due to some factories and all the construction being deemed not essential.

2:11:59 So there's an interesting little stock market play. They're gonna have lesser earnings. Restaurants only, all the garbage companies. Hey, I know, I'm gonna bet some company is not gonna do well right now. That's a stock tip. Restaurants, oh yes, it is. Restaurants only doing carry out and some stores not even open, it's cut into the commercial. Those two lines of business have lost 40%. Residential has lost 4,000 accounts due to people not paying the bill. in the last few weeks. Residents, what are they doing with the garbage? There's 65,000 customers, this all has to lead to cut hours. Residential has three types of products, trash, recycle and yard waste. That's what we have too. Yard waste was supposed to start April 1st for the season, but deemed not essential.

2:12:45 Thus, trash drivers with automated trucks were told not to touch the trash unless they absolutely necessary. Recycle sorting center was shut down because they don't want the sorters touching the recycling. Geez, most well probably we put out in the land, oh yeah, oh here's what he says. Most of your recycling, into the landfill. Thanks for the thought. I can't believe that. Yeah, he says bag your trash and don't speed around us by the way. Call me a garbage man, not a sanitation engineer. All right. Yeah, I like it. Well, we'll just keep it a G-man. But you know, you don't think about how these companies have troubles too. You just see the garbage guys show up like, oh, that's great. Here they are. Whoo. Good to go. But no, they've got... How about the wedding industry?

2:13:39 Annihilated, annihilated. How about Jay? I mean, has she, I'm sure she's already got to push it off to October. Yeah, you can't do it anymore. And that's florists, that's bakeries, that's entertainment, obviously hospitality, hotel, clothing. It's just, you know, I'm even skeptical that this country, this country, can stay closed until the end of April. I'm really skeptical. Something has to happen. This is going to be so epic, such an epic meltdown. Well, I mean, Korea didn't stay close. Korea took the approach and I think they're slowly trying to trick us into thinking, well, we were wrong at first and we changed our minds about the mouth covering. No, no, it's going to be the testing. You're going to have a test and if you've already had it, if you have the antibody, you're good to go. Yeah, well, that test is, I'll see that when I believe it.

2:14:37 But if everyone covers their faces and goes around, I don't think you need to shelter in place. I think if you sneeze or cough, it's going to go into the mask. People don't realize that mask isn't protecting you. Hold on. This was finally put into context and understanding yesterday by the Surgeon General Jerome Adams, who talks a bit like Mike Keishon. Have you noticed that? He talked to me like Mike Tyson. You got your Mike Tyson, you're working on it. I'm working on it. So he did something that I despise. He unpacked for us. Let me unpack

2:15:17 the mask issue. This is, it's two minutes, the whole bit was five. It's more than two minutes for the guy to explain why they've been so confusing with the mask. So before you and I jump into telling people what it is or isn't, let's listen to the man who's supposed to be authorized so he can unpack it. I want to unpack the evolution of our guidance on masks because it has been confusing to the American people. Actually, it should have been let's pump the brakes and unpack this. It sounds a little like Gates at the beginning. Oh, he does. Yeah. I want to unpack this. The evolution of our guidance on masks because it has been confusing to the American people.

2:16:03 First of all, I want people to understand that the CDC, the World Health Organization, my office, and most public health and health organizations and professionals originally recommended against the general public wearing masks. Because based on the best evidence available at the time, it was not deemed that that would have a significant impact on whether or not a healthy person wearing a mask would contract COVID-19. We have always recommended that symptomatic people wear a mask because if you're coughing, if you have a fever, if you're symptomatic, you could transmit disease to other people. What has changed in our recommendation?

2:16:44 Well, it's important to know that we now know from recent studies that a significant portion of individuals with coronavirus lack symptoms. They're what we call asymptomatic. And that even those who eventually become pre-symptomatic, meaning that they will develop symptoms in the future, can transmit the virus to others before they show symptoms. This means that the virus can spread between people interacting in close proximity. For example, coughing, speaking or sneezing, even if those people were not exhibiting symptoms. In light of this new evidence, CDC recommends and the task force recommends wearing cloth face coverings in public settings where other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain. These include places like grocery stores and pharmacies.

2:17:33 As the president also mentioned, cloth face coverings fashioned from household items or made at home from common materials at low cost can be used as an additional voluntary public health measure. This recommendation complements and does not replace the president's coronavirus guidelines for America 30 days to slow the spread, which remains the cornerstone of our national effort to slow the spread of the virus. CDC is always, always looking at the data. We've told you that from the beginning. Dr. Burke says it every single press conference. We're looking at the data, we're evolving our recommendations, and new recommendations will come as the evidence dictates. If you choose to wear a face covering, please, please leave the N95 mask, the medical supplies for the medical professionals, healthcare workers, and frontline workers.

2:18:21 Know that this is not a substitute for social distancing. And remember, this is all about me protecting you and you protecting me. So what this results in, and I can tell you that right now, is that if you are outside without some time of some kind of face covering, you will be excoriated, will be given stink eye, and eventually people will yell at you. I think that's eventual. Now, I tested this theory of yours. And went to Monterey foods yesterday. Okay yesterday. This is this is as of yesterday So yesterday the play everyone had a mask on except by three people did you know me and two other guys? Yeah, and I didn't notice any of this any of this stink. I or nobody cared we went to it's happening It's going to happen. Well apparently our Grand Duke Dave Foley had this problem. Well. I went to Costco He he wrote about going to Costco. We went to Costco

2:19:18 Was it Friday I think? And first of all there was quite a line. They had the markers for six feet and we're standing behind... Now... Everyone in the line except for the keeper and I is a zombie. They're all on their phone and you know, they like some from some peripheral vision They see the person in front of them has moved up and then they'll eventually slowly move So it's you know, no one's paying attention to this big gaps. You say something. It's like hey, excuse me Could you move up? Um, they they just said 20 feet now, so I'm trying to keep extra distance and It's like, would you please not just spout off stuff like that? You know, it's a... it's... it's... people are going to get very annoyed with each other and it will be an issue. If you do not have your your face covered with something in public, people are going to start giving you stink eye. It's going to happen. Especially since Trump said he's not going to wear one. It's voluntary. I'm not wearing one. So if you don't wear a mask, you're a Trump lover.

2:20:21 Might as well wear a mega hat. Orange! Exactly. Now this does leave room, since it can be any type of covering, it does leave room for No Agenda Shop to create some kick-ass No Agenda face masks. Yeah. With something that would just a message on it. Yeah a message and some extra confusing bits for faith for facial recognition For the tracking put some extra stuff on there. They'll confuse confuse the facial recognition mega masks I had a why we now wear a mask clip that was this maybe a little different because it's got a It's got something going on in it. Let's play play this clip. Good morning We know we're supposed to keep six feet between

2:21:05 each other when we're out of the house and of course that's right we've known for weeks wash our hands tell us now about covering our faces Well, the CDC says that what scientists know now, given recent studies, is that a lot of people with coronavirus lack symptoms or they have only mild symptoms and they can transmit the virus. So this means if an infected person goes out and interacts in close quarters with others, they can unknowingly spread it. One person who pushed to make this change, recommending broader use of masks, is the former FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb. So if you're a person who has the coronavirus and you're mildly symptomatic, you don't think you're sick or you're asymptomatic and don't even know that you have symptoms at all. If you're asymptomatic, you don't have symptoms. That's what the word means. Did you hear that? Go ahead.

2:22:02 You don't if you're asymptomatic, you don't have symptoms at all. That's the point But he says if you're asymptomatic and don't know you have symptoms no, no, no, no, you're not using the word, right? So this is the guy who pushed the masks on the public. This is an NPR report by the way Of course, this is the guy who pushed the masks on to the public and he doesn't even know what asymptomatic means. Well, did you hear? Okay. Did you hear our? our secretary our Surgeon General He said he was talking about people who are pre-symptomatic. What the hell category is that? So you're you have it. We're all pre-symptomatic. Thank you. That was my point. We're all pre-symptomatic. It's like being pre-dead. Yeah. We're pre-deceased over here. Pre-symptomatic.

2:22:50 Do you ever get the idea they really just don't know what they're doing at all? It's like there are elements of that. Let's take it around the globe. Let's check out what's going on in some other countries. I would like to start with the Candinavia. This is the health minister of Ottawa. And she's all in on the program. She knows who to blame, who not to blame. And she knows exactly what we're going to get, where it's all going. The most important thing that my colleague mentioned was that we don't rely on any one country's source of data. In fact, it's a World Health Organization that coordinates the data from all countries. Dr. Tam is the special advisor to the committee that's been working on the pandemic since the very early days.

2:23:33 Dr. Bruce Elward led the World Health Organization Committee to China to do the investigation of what was happening, what they could determine on the ground in terms of China's capacity to have a full understanding of what was happening. There's no indication that the data that came out of China in terms of their infection rate and their death rate was falsified in any way. In fact, if you look at the death rate overall in China, it's much higher than the one we're seeing now. And so we rely on the World Health Organization to do this important work because of course, we're all in this together. And I think one of the most important things to understand about this pandemic, this global pandemic is that as long as coronavirus exists in one country, it exists in all of our countries.

2:24:17 that we actually have to work collectively as a world now to defeat this virus, to find better ways to treat and then eventually prevent this virus through vaccination or other kinds of methods. And that's gonna take everybody working together. Okay, so China, totally on the level, truthful, no problem, nothing to see here. Global problem, we are the world, we are the children, we all have to get together and it's only gonna get solved through vaccines. Have a nice one, Canada. That's your health minister there in Ottawa. We hear very little from South America. Ecuador, not so good in Ecuador. Bodies are piling up on the streets in Ecuador. The country has a relatively small population, but one of this is NPR. Yes, they're pilot. Be quiet, John. How dare you speak against the NPRs?

2:25:07 You cannot speaketh like that. Bodies are piling up on the streets in Ecuador. The country has a relatively small population, but one of the biggest outbreaks of COVID-19 in South America. There are more than 3,000 confirmed cases. About half of Ecuador's coronavirus cases have been registered in Guayaquil, overwhelming the city's hospitals. In addition, a nationwide curfew has hindered the work of ambulance drivers and undertakers. So the bodies of people who have succumbed to COVID-19 and other illnesses often lie for days wrapped in bed sheets and watched over by relatives. Bodies piled up in Ecuador. Now my favorite clip comes from the Netherlands and the Dutchman, they love their movies. They just love the whole idea.

2:26:00 They must be beside themselves. You can't go to the theater. No, no, I mean they love the pandemic movies. They love, they love. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yes, life imitating art in this case. We've had the drones on the beach, the little drone. Little, like drone with a loudspeaker. Disperse citizens because we're up here on the dune with three of us. We can't go down there and tell you to disperse. No, we got to use the drone. So now they have something new. It drives around town in Amsterdam. It's the Corona bus. And the Corona bus makes announcements. Everyone can pass forward. Corona does not discriminate. Stay at home.

2:26:43 Only go out if you must. Always keep 1.5 meter distance. Obey the rules. You risk a fine of up to 400 euros per person if you don't. For more information, visit our website. How dystopian is that? Why aren't they doing it in Dutch? Why are they speaking in English? They do it in eight languages. Eight! Did you see the video of the robot in some part of England just roaming down the street yelling at people? Well, that was British humor. It was posted by the... I thought it was hilarious, this dumb robot. You mean the Dalek is what you're talking about? I don't remember. Yes, it's a Dalek from Doctor Who.

2:27:34 Oh, or Daltech or Dalek, whatever those things are called. I don't watch it. The cops put it up there as a joke. Good for them. I like the humor. Yeah, I don't know. Well, this is a good job. I had some national reports that I ran out of room for the clips. I only have a maximum of clips. And so I didn't go into the national. I'll bring those back for Thursday. Yeah, there's reports from all kinds of countries, but everybody's freaked out. What else? I got a couple of interesting things. I got well, first of all, the This is an interesting, this is the Trumps, again from this one, last great press conference, last press conference, really good. Very entertaining, lots of clips. And here he is explaining something we've talked about, nobody else talks about, nobody's gonna write about it. But we know that Trump is a neat freak, or I'm sorry, a germaphobe. So he whitewashes us, misses his face, because he can't touch his face.

2:28:33 And he washes his hands all the time and never like apparently never liked shaking hands in the first place and talks about it in this clip right here. Let's see if you can find it. I got it. And some good things have happened. I mean, I don't know. You know, there's one habit that, as you know, most of you, a lot of you have covered me a long time before I did this. I was never a big believer in shaking hands. But I decided if you don't shake hands, you're not going to be winning a lot of contests. Right now, I'm not sure you have to shake hands anymore. A couple of people have told me, Debra, you told me that if we didn't shake hands, the incidence of flu, flu is a big deal also, and that flu might be cut down in half. Who knew that shaking hands was such a bad thing? I felt it. I mean, I always felt it.

2:29:19 And, you know, I was never to a point where I can't shake somebody's hand. I knew people like that too, but there weren't too many of them. But when I ran for office, all of a sudden I'm shaking hundreds of it. And if I don't, I wouldn't even be standing here. But I think that's a custom that maybe people don't have to. We have to get close together. We have to sit together at the stadiums. We have to sit next to each other and rest. All that stuff is going to happen. But I think the concept of shaking hands maybe is something that's going to be a little bit from the past. Let's see what happens. Maybe they'll go right back to shaking hands. Yeah. He's jacked up about the possibility we won't be shaking hands anymore. He likes that. Did you see USA Today published a pretty interesting story. You know, Trump has been going on and on, I don't know if you have one of these clips, about the military had no bullets and the stock room was empty. I didn't get that one. Well, he said this quite a number of times that previous administrations raided the stockpile

2:30:23 And USA Today says, yeah, it's actually true. The Obama administration failed to replenish the federal stockpile of N95 masks after the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009. Nobody's reporting this. Well, it's the USA Today. It's... Whoever reads that. Okay, me. Okay, good for you. Yeah, so it's nice to see someone at least digging in. Well, yeah, well, there you go. Well, we can crank these masks out apparently.

2:31:06 Well, yeah, not that... yeah, just write... you can just put a scarf in front of your face. I don't think people realize that this is not the same as where, you know, you see Asian people... I'll just say Asians. But you see pictures of China and you see Chinese people with masks on. That's to keep the soot out. And they know that there's soot and all kinds of bull crap is going to be filtered through breathing that mask. With a virus, the chance that you're talking and hanging out somewhere, the virus sticks to the outside of your mask. You go home, take the mask off, it's on your fingers, you rub your eye, done. So it's not quite as simple.

2:31:44 As just, you know, oh I've got a mask, I'm doing whatever. Well again, the idea of the mask is to keep you from getting... Yes, from getting other people sick. Should you be pre-symptomatic? Should you be pre-symptomatic like everyone else? That's why you feel good about not wearing a mask at the Chinese store 99 Ranch, because everybody's wearing a mask. You know, so you go in there without a mask, nobody, you know, I feel good because there's nobody's gonna be coughing. And when that woman talked about Wuhan having higher numbers of death, we have to harken back to when this thing first began about some month, over a month ago, more than a month ago, when you read the letter from our Wuhan man on the street,

2:32:25 who just berated the Chinese, I wish you could find that, berated the Chinese in Wuhan specifically for spitting all the time, coughing without covering their mouths and acting like the Wuhan Chinese Act, according to him, which would spread things much faster than if everyone was covered up, which you might find in Hong Kong or elsewhere. It was a very nasty note that he wrote. Yeah, I'm trying I'm trying to think I if I had that I don't know what that jingle was that that clip was it Yeah, I read it. Oh, I thought oh, okay. It was just no all right. Yeah, you read it was a new thing Let's go on with

2:33:05 Here, this was a good one. This was Trump talking about Joe Biden because first he complimented Joe Biden for saying it was the right thing to do, which was to stop the flights from China. Then some reporter immediately chimes in, Joe Biden said he was criticizing you for this and that and the other thing. And then Trump goes a little bit behind the curtain. And I think this should be appreciated by the public at large because this is exactly what he says here is all gonna be true. Joe Biden actually just attacked you in a tweet. I don't know if you have seen it. He just what? Attacked you. He just said. He didn't write anything. Look, he has people, he has professionals from the Democrats. Let me just read what he said. He said Donald Trump is not responsible for the coronavirus, but he is responsible for failing to prepare our nation to respond to it. How do you respond to that?

2:33:53 He didn't write that. That was done by a Democrat operative. He doesn't write. He doesn't, he's probably not even watching right now. And if he is, he doesn't understand what he's watching. But just so you understand, it was very nice what they wrote. I don't know. You know, they release it in a strange time, you know, sort of a strange time to release something like that. But he admitted I was right. And if you read the Federalist story, which most of you won't, Because you don't want to, but you'd learn something because if you go through a chart, times. I was early, Dr. Fauci, I think, I don't think he's changed his mind, but he said it was a very important step when we stopped China from coming in from the specific area that was

2:34:35 heavily infected. We'd have a whole different thing right now. So I don't really know what Joe Biden said. I don't really care. And again, I see every once in a while I'll say something, I'll make a speech, and then it'll be critiqued, and I'll get this beautiful, brilliant critique. Joe Biden didn't write that. Joe Biden didn't write that. He wished he did, but he didn't. Go ahead, please. Back. And you know what they're doing with Joe now? Is so they've still got him behind his little lectern in his living room and And then I have a voice announcing him so he feels comfortable like hey Joe. It's almost like the real thing It's almost like television and they put an IFB in his ear Presumably to help him along as he as he screws up the prompter read There's no control room that needs to speak to him. But oh, yeah, he's got he's got an IFB the curly cord and everything and

2:35:31 No, geez. Just because I do have one Biden clip you might as well play, which is one of his little mini gaps. I don't know if it's old or new. I think it's fairly new because I think it's in that one of that in context of the bookshelves. But there's a lot more. For example, you know, I think there's more we're going to have to do as we get down the line here. But we're going to, for example, you know, additional checks to families should be should be conditions should be required. But I think there's a minimum of anyway. I won't go into all that. Let me just deal with your specific.

2:36:09 It's so bad with Joe Biden that Joe Rogan said he would vote for Trump over Biden. Yes, Rogan is a notorious Democrat. Who would love to vote for Bernie. We know that. But, you know, a lot of people would love to vote for Bernie, but the Democrat Party is not going to put Bernie in there. He's not a Democrat. He's going to screw up the money flow. It's all that really matters. You're going to the down ballots going to be bad enough as it is without no money. And so that's that, it's just simple. Just forget Bernie. You know, these diehard Bernie fans, can't you find somebody else besides Bernie? Some actual Democrat?

2:36:51 And that's really, if you listen to what Joe said, Rogan that is, he's saying the Democrat Party have screwed us. They've given us this guy. He's not coherent. And Joe's just, I think Joe is just now realizing, because I know he ran a whole bunch of clips maybe a week ago, it's like, wait, Joe Biden has no brain cells left. So that's why he's saying that. Which was interesting, I should probably have clipped it. He was with, what's that, Eric Weinstein? You know, the so-called intellectual dark web guy. Yeah, he is the go-to intellectual for Peter Thiel. Right, and yes, I think he runs some of Peter Thiel's... Operation, yeah. And he's a mathematician, I think, by trade. And he's sitting there, well, I can't vote for Biden, I can't vote for Trump!

2:37:48 And then Joe says, I'd vote for Trump over Biden. And Twitter lost its mind. Even though I think it's probably misguided, I think it's fun to see in the UK and Liverpool, Manchester, Watford, Birmingham, that people are now torching 5G masts. Like, setting them on fire. That'll stop it. There's some great pictures. Yeah. I gotta get some clips for that. Put that in the newsletter. I think it's not a bad idea just as a backup, just in case. I don't want to condone any of this, but just in case there's something to the 5G theory. Remind your local city council, look at what's going on. This costs money. It's a nuisance. It's a public... There's people burning these poles down. Yeah. That costs money.

2:38:42 Well, remind your city council this is what's going on. You should probably think twice about putting any of these installations in. It's gonna cost the taxpayers money if you have to repair them every five minutes because some maniacs are burning them down. UK only so far though. No, it's just the beginning. Yes, it's just the beginning. We haven't really seen any polls around here in the United States. We have the phony 5g's You know they're trying to ease it in with 5g. It's not 5g. No well It's not 5g. It's not that T-Mobile is using the 5g protocol, but they're using the the older frequencies

2:39:21 The lower frequency. Yeah, it's not 5G. It is 5G. It's a 5G protocol. I'm sorry, I gotta correct you on this. No, but it's not what the real 5G is, is high frequency. It's pre-5G. It's pre-5G. Exactly. It's pre-5G. It's bullcrap. I'm gonna show my support by donating to No Agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that. Oh yeah, that'd be fab. Yeah, on No Agenda. And yes, we do have a few people to thank, including starting with Don Silva in Iwa Beach, Hawaii. And he actually wrote, he did send a check with a note, which I wanted to read. It's very simple, very short. Thank you so much for the many years of news analysis. I never miss a show unless my computer is down and that never happens.

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2:56:41 which is the firing of the captain of the USS Roosevelt. Yes, this was... What is it? Mark Miley, is that your clip? Mark? No, the clip is actually I have three clips. I got Mark Miley follows up on Trump on the sacking of the captain. They confronted him at the press conference. Ah, yes. No, this was, this was, I've asked around about this so we can definitely worth discussing for a moment here. Can we talk about the Captain Crozier of the USS Roosevelt? Which one? What? Captain Crozier who was removed, the captain who was removed as the commander of the USS Roosevelt.

2:57:17 I don't know if you saw the videos of sailors cheering for him as he left. Our reporting shows that some sailors have said that they are worried to reenlist because they are not convinced that commanders are taking care of their health and taking care of them. What do you say to that? Well, I don't know much about it. I can only tell you this. Here we have one of the greatest, here we have one of the greatest ships in the world, nuclear aircraft carrier, incredible ship with thousands and thousands of people. And you had about 120 that, uh, were infected. Now, I guess the captain stopped in Vietnam and people got off in Vietnam. Perhaps you don't do that in the middle of a pandemic or something that looked like it was going to be. You know, history would say you don't necessarily stop and let your your sailors get off, number one. But more importantly, he wrote a letter. The letter was a five page letter from a captain and the letter was all over the place.

2:58:10 That's not appropriate. I don't think that's appropriate. And these are tough people. These are tough, strong people. I thought it looked terrible, to be honest with you. Now, they made their decision. I didn't make the decision. Secretary of Defense was involved and a lot of people were involved. I thought it was terrible what he did to write a letter. I mean, this isn't a class on literature. This is a captain of a massive ship that's nuclear powered. And he shouldn't be talking that way in a letter. He could call and ask and suggest. But he stopped in Vietnam. A lot of people got off the boat. They came back and they had infection. And I thought it was inappropriate for the captain of a ship to do. I don't want to comment as to whether or not, but I agree with their decision 100 percent. In the back, please. I did. I did inquire about this situation.

2:59:04 And the letter, everyone says, writing your grievances in that level of position, you're running an aircraft carrier. That's one of our prized possessions. No problem. But allowing this letter to leak under your command because it did leak from the ship, that was inexcusable. Apparently, yeah. And that's what I got from everybody is, no, no, it was under his watch, he is the captain of the ship, anything that happens there, whether he did it or not, is his responsibility. And allowing information about the state of that type of military asset to leak out and sounding weak,

2:59:47 And vulnerable is a huge offense to the military or to the Navy at least. Well, I think it is most of the military, but let's just do it. Miley. I've always liked Miley. We've played his clips before. He's starting to look a little beat up. He's very serious. You know, he's the head of the Joint Chiefs, right? He's the top dog. Yeah. And I mean, under the secretaries, but he is. Tough guy very straightforward. I like his is He doesn't it doesn't mess around. He just tells it like it is and I just enjoy him and here He is on Fox where they're trying to trap him into you know, giving up Trump, which is you know Fox is really gone

3:00:32 Weird. But she can't manage to do it and he's just steadfast. So I got two clips. I got the first clip, which is him going on in his classic way. This is Mark Miland Fox, R.E. Navy Captain. The Navy has removed the commander of a coronavirus stricken aircraft carrier over a letter he wrote obtained by the media. pleading for help after more than 100 sailors had tested positive to COVID-19. The acting Navy secretary says Captain Brett Crozier's actions undermined the chain of command and caused alarm.

3:01:09 To me, that demonstrated extremely poor judgment in the middle of a crisis. Because what it's done, it's created a firestorm, it's created doubts about the ship's ability to go to sea if it needs to, it's created doubt among the families about the health of their sailors, and that was a completely unnecessary thing to do in the midst of a crisis. And of course, politics mixed in a bit. Top Democrats have gone after the move as an overreaction. Some sailors appeared to rally behind their commander as he left the USS Theodore Roosevelt. Watch.

3:01:54 Joining me now, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley. Sir, thank you for being on the program, taking the time today. I want to know whether you think this was an easy or a tough decision for the acting Navy Secretary, and why? Well Harris, thanks for the opportunity. I'm over here at FEMA doing some interagency coordination, but specific to the Teddy Roosevelt and the relief of the ship's captain. Secretary Moteley, clearly these are difficult decisions. None of them are ever easy. And it's his estimation he lost trust and confidence in the ship's captain.

3:02:30 So Secretary Motley is the responsible and accountable official to the American people. And he had reason to believe that the captain operated outside the chain of command, and he relieved him. Is that the type of decision that you would make? Well, I'm not in the position right now with this ongoing investigation. I don't have all the facts, but I trust Secretary Moteley and his judgment, and I'm going to support him, obviously, because he is the responsible and accountable official to the American people. And the ship's captain, and Secretary Moteley explained it, he thought he operated with poor judgment in a time of crisis, and he operated outside the chain of command.

3:03:05 So he relieved him and we're going to move on and make sure that the sailors of that ship are taken care of and that the readiness of the ship is back up to speed. And we're going to continue to focus on responding to the needs of the American people for COVID-19. Yeah, he's pretty clear. He's very clear and here is part two. And I should mention that the acting secretary of the Navy was on with me yesterday and he said that they had already some things in motion because it takes a lot more than just 24 hours after a letter would drop to move 3,000 people. Real quickly, just to hit this one more time and then I want to move on, you mentioned FEMA and I know you have those hospital ships.

3:03:44 Correspondent Jen Griffin through sources learned that the DOD and White House officials, some of them, had warned against doing this, making this kind of quick decision about Captain Crozier. Just a quick thought about that. I'm not aware of any White House or DOD officials who warned against making quick decisions. That may be, I don't know. I do know that the Secretary of the Navy is responsible to the American people for the good order and discipline of the Navy. And when he loses trust and confidence in a ship's captain, then that's it. It's target down and we're moving on to the next task. When at any time a Secretary of the Navy, Secretary of Defense, President of the United States, or a Superior Commissioned Officer loses trust and confidence in a subordinate, then the subordinate goes.

3:04:28 Oh man, the media is so not our friend anymore. They're so mean. They don't help us. We heard that there was somebody, one of our reporters... The sailors were clapping! They were clapping! And then they show the sailors clapping as though, you know... That sounded like a bunch of millennials. The whole thing is just really annoying there were three other things that took place over the past few days just want to get to and we don't have to dive in too deep, but I think they're important because We won't hear about them or you know things move so fast the first one is The inspector general of the intelligence community community Committee I should say Who was removed from his post?

3:05:15 It's about the announcement from last night. It's a yes or no question. I like this. I'm asking you a yes or no question Even though you won't want to do it. Listen to this. This is the guy I know this was a I saw this I saw it is rude It's about the announcement from last night. It's a yes or no question, but not that we expect the answer to be yes or no. But was it Michael Atkinson? Not that we expect you to say yes or no. God, man, we get it. We get it! We get it! Alright! Not that we expect the answer to be yes or no, but wasn't Michael Atkinson doing the job of the Inspector General of the intelligence community, the job he was supposed to do when he simply took the whistleblower complaint to Congress, what hadn't been taken previously? Wasn't he doing the job that he was supposed to do, that American taxpayers were paying him to do? And why did you decide to talk to him? I thought he did a terrible job. Absolutely terrible.

3:06:15 He took a whistleblower report, which turned out to be a fake report. It was fake. It was totally wrong. It was about my conversation with the president of Ukraine. He took a fake report and he brought it to Congress. with an emergency, okay? Not a big Trump fan, that I can tell you. Instead of saying, and we offered this to him, no, no, we will take the conversation, where fortunately we had a transcript. If we didn't have a transcript with the kind of deception and dishonesty that were practiced by the Democrats, I might not be standing here right now.

3:06:51 I thought he goes on about it. He goes on and on. There's other analysis too, but that you shorten that clip. You should have played the whole thing. I don't know if I have it, but I do have the NPR if you want to hear the liberals NPR slant. Yes, of course. And the only reason that they even went, you know, and they gave just a quick Quick 15-second report on the whole thing not discussing this guy who dummy this if I have another clip that maybe we'll Put on Thursday where this this guy violated a lot of different ways of doing the IG job But let's listen to here's NPR just simple. Yeah, I don't know which one it is NPR on Atkinson

3:07:33 President Trump has notified Congress he's firing the Inspector General of the U.S. intelligence community. Michael Atkinson was first to alert Congress about the whistleblower complaint that led to Trump's impeachment. This is NPR. Yeah, that's it. That's how simple it is. Finally, it looks like we got some moves on the oil front as the president had his oil meeting. A lot of different things in this question and answer. It's not that long, luckily, but we may have to stop it. Going to the oil meeting previously, is the U.S. willing to cut domestic oil production? What came out of the meeting? What was the consensus? Well, a lot of things came out. It's a great industry. It's an important industry. It's a tremendous job producing industry.

3:08:20 It's just vital and it was also very interesting because they all were given the test before they came into the room So you have the head of Exxon Mobil you have all these guys taking the test and they all passed with flying colors So that was good. Okay. I Actually, I have I have a clip that compliments that all right. We'll get to that. It's not I'm not done yet I'm stopping I'm stopping this to analyze it for a moment first of all It's you set yourself up. Mr. President when you say they all pass the test with flying colors There wasn't like a steady period there was no homework. It's not an achievement To get a test and so big days to get your test results back. Well, and the second thing is you

3:09:05 If I were in charge of, if I was the COO of Exxon Mobil, any big company, any corporation, no, you're not sticking a needle or a swab in my CEO's mouth. I don't know what's on that. Hold on a second. I wouldn't allow it. Hold on a second. There was a bunch of tainted vials. Yep. that went out, they were going to Europe or some place and they had COVID in them. In it, yeah, in it, I know. I am suspicious about even Chris Cuomo who got tested and then I'm just not, I don't want to sound like this is the second half of a show paranoia. The third half of the show, we're really late. Third half of the show paranoia. But if they're gonna start poking this thing out, so why did Trump get tested again? I mean, they're trying to give him Corona?

3:09:54 I just saw these tests. I'm very dubious. Well, we know we've already went gone through the test. So it's a nice wind up But anyway, I just wouldn't allow that offhand, but okay They all did it and they flask with pass with flying colors flying colors They left happy in that respect and they left happy in that respect Apparently the meeting sucked. Otherwise, there's just an overabundance of oil right now oil oil and gas tremendous overabundance and It was called it up. They were doing a great job They were producing a lot of energy, but then you had the virus come along and it knocked another 35% Maybe 40% off of the market. So there's too much oil. There's a glut that's not entirely true I don't like his timeline and I think he's he's waffling around it for a reason because coronavirus first then the oil

3:10:47 War the disagreement then the virus knocked off another 35 40 percent, but it's not like He waffles this listen. Yes tremendous overabundance and It was caused they were doing a great job. They were see it was caused a And these are great companies and they'll figure it out. It's free market. They were having a competition. We'll see how it all works out. I think it's going to work out very well. It's going to take a long time to to get rid of that. There's massive excess amount of oil and gas, massive.

3:11:43 Like probably there's never been so where that does work out. Well, I guess you could say it's for Drivers, I think in certain locations. It's down to 90 and 95 cents a gallon right now on the road But we have a tremendous industry a great industry a tremendously important industry from the standpoint of jobs So he thinks they're gonna work it out. He didn't really want to say what it was caused by I'm not sure why he held back on that Because we're not supposed to remember what caused it other than the corona the Rona did it the Rona did it So I don't know what's going on there But it sounds like pieces are being lined up and teed up for a go moment when you know Russia and Saudi Arabia will go okay, I Wouldn't know what else it could be

3:12:38 You had your own- I have no idea, buddy. I do have this complimentary clip you might play, which is the Trump on OPEC. I care about OPEC. I really don't. I couldn't care less about OPEC. Let me just say, no, no. I think they're going to settle it. You know why? Because they're going to be destroyed. They're destroying themselves if they don't. Russia, it's a very important, and we had a very good conversation, President Putin and myself, very good. But Russia, a big part of their Economic well-being is from oil. Well, oil is at a record low. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. It's actually lower than you even think. And it's to their advantage. Obviously, it's to Saudi Arabia's advantage. They told me they're discussing Saudi Arabia went much further than that. He thinks that a deal is going to be made.

3:13:25 at 10 million barrels reduction and maybe more than that. He actually indicated it would most likely be much more than that. So we'll see what happens. I mean, we're going to see what happens. But as far as OPEC is concerned, I mean, I was against OPEC for years and years because I thought it was very unfair to our country. The beautiful thing is we have built one of the great You know, one of the things we've done is created so much we we produce with the number one producer in the world right now. I don't like it for a different reason, because it's going to hurt a lot of jobs in our country. This price, it's going to hurt a lot of jobs. Now, with all of that being said, people are going to be driving paying 90 cents a gallon. Did you ever hear that? What's that? Nineteen fifty two or something. All right. So from that standpoint, but you know what?

3:14:11 I am a big believer in our great energy business and we're going to take care of our energy business. And if I have to do tariffs on oil coming from outside or if I have to do something to protect our thousands and tens of thousands of energy workers and our great companies that produce all these jobs, I'll do whatever I have to do. Yeah, that's the key right there. He will he will he'll lie cheat and steal for us. I'm sure of that He knows that the price of gasoline in the 1950s till about sick 1960 was 25 cents a gallon Hmm, it became 90 cents during the OPEC crisis in the 70s And it was everyone screaming running around. Oh my god. It's gonna be a dollar. Yeah. Yeah could go to two. Oh, no Or even five like, California. Yeah, I

3:15:06 Final one for me, a lot of things are happening. A lot of things are taking place. We have the Venezuela and a lot of South America surrounded. Not much more reporting on it, but we know it's taking place. And on March 11th, I don't think we caught Project Python. Do you remember us talking about Project Python? I can't remember but it sure rings a bell. Well, I'm disappointed. I think we were already wrapped up in this corona. Oh man, don't look over here. Distraction of the century. This was announced by the Department of Justice on March 11th. Good afternoon everyone and thank you for joining us today. We're announcing today the results of Project Python, a multilateral interagency operation targeting the Jalisco New Generation Cartel

3:15:56 also known as CJNG. This operation was led by the DEA and on behalf of the department, I want to thank Acting Administrator Dillon for his strong leadership in the fight against transnational organized crime. As you all know, the DEA is dedicated to taking down the most dangerous and destructive cartels in the world. Project Python began on September 1st, 2019 and it culminates in today's announcement. As Acting Administrator Dillon will describe in more detail, Project Python was unprecedented in both scale and complexity. The DEA, through its Special Operations Division, coordinated and deconflicted more than 350 field investigations to investigate and identify the global networks controlled by CJNG.

3:16:47 This entailed not simply the management of investigative activities, but also the careful coordination and synchronizing of domestic and international law enforcement operations. More than 100 investigations will now form the initial target deck for Project Python. And we will continue to investigate and analyze the roles that these individuals play in CJNG to identify and map out the cartels logistical nodes and pathways and to link investigations and prosecutions. Unprecedented in scale and complexity. Yep, that sounds like Python to me. The computer code. Well, cute.

3:17:30 Well, yeah, this is not played up at all. There's some other stuff going on too and there's bars doing something and there's some unsealed indictments and more sealed indictments. Yeah, I am. There's tons of unsealed indictments. It's a coming. You can't get away from it. Yeah. That's all I have for now. I mean we could go on for another four hours easily. I don't think it's I don't think we get any better as you go along. I want to get back to I want to get back to the Grind man. I want to there's a lot to investigate a lot to research on it for Thursday show Yes, and I want to thank everybody again Who has been sending in emails? There's a lot of expertise amongst our producers of the of the no agenda show and

3:18:13 For instance, all I had to do was ask about these tests and we got actual lab technicians. I have assays, copies of panels. I mean, I know all the terminology. And your assay. I love the term. They keep saying assay. And whenever they say ELISA test. When you work in a lab. Yeah. And the ELISA test. It's like ELISA? ELISA test? But it's fantastic, the resources we have. So keep it coming. Of course, it is interesting to note that I can barely keep up with the email because people send a lot more and it's a lot longer.

3:18:51 Do you get that as well? Do you notice that the notes are much longer? Some of the notes are very long. I will mention this since I was referred to it earlier, some of these videos, the one linked in the newsletter for sure, the woman who's doing these reports from the hospital showing that the beds are open, ready and available as opposed to what you were being told by NBC. She says that she's getting swamped with these videos from all over the country because everyone's going out and filming their local hospital. And she says she can't take them anymore. It's too much. Unless you have a coordinated, like a video of the local news channel saying, oh, hell's breaking loose, and then you can take a picture of something showing it's not breaking loose. Unless you have that, I don't want any more of these. It's just like, I'm swamped. And I think this is what's going on right now.

3:19:40 So do the research, be smart, think about it, think about how you communicate. Subject lines are important, especially when we have a lot of messages coming in. Just replying to something, you know, think about every extra click we have to make. It's just time we're losing. So try and keep it as, for brevity's sake, keep it as simple as possible, please. And that means we will return on Thursday. We're just going to go back to work. I have to say. You gotta stay in place. Yep. Cower in place. Cower in place, slaves. Coming up after this show on noagendastream.com, Grumpy Old Ben's with special guest DC Girl and Sir William of Pencil Tucky. We have end of show mixes from Coriel, Charles Couch, Leo LaPuke, Sir Chris Wilson, and Rolando Gonzalez. Thank you all very much for your contributions. John, happy birthday.

3:20:42 Thank you. Yeah, are you celebrating with the kids? Anyone coming over? Everybody's here, Mimi, the kids, the dogs. Make sure you're social distance. Social distance. Yeah, I got a big house. Coming to you from Opportunity Zone 33 here in Austin, Texas, capital of the drone star state. We are FEMA Region Number 6 on all governmental maps in the morning everybody. I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's a big rainstorm this morning. Now it's cleared up and traffic is light. I'm John C. Dvorak. We return on Thursday right here on No Agenda with more of your Pandemic 2020 Coronavirus Lockdown. Until then, adios mofos! Imagine there's no freedom. It's easy if you try. FEMA camps and vaccinations.

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3:23:00 Nobody on the road, nobody on the beach The virus in the air, a biohazard breach Empty shelves, empty streets, you're hiding all alone In mountains of toilet paper, quarantined inside your home Well I can see you, your pale skin hiding from the sun You've got your surgical gloves and those face masks on baby Well I can tell you've been locked inside for far too long Wait till the virus of summer has gone

3:23:45 Come on man, come on, come on man, come on man. When I left the United States Senate I became a professor. You're scaring the children. The press say Trump will lie about how many people will die. It's all a guess. He should listen to those who are the best. Like I shouldn't be eating cereal. Like I should be in a restaurant eating sushi. I don't think we get back to normal. Come to Chinatown. I like to be close to the children. Oh yes indeed, Trump lies. And people continue to drop like flies no matter what Orange Man says.

3:24:27 And COVID-19, for all we know, will continue to grow and grow. Orange Man just shakes his fist. He needs to listen to the scientists. Listen to the scientists. Listen to the scientists. Listen to the scientists. Listen to the scientists. Don't listen to anybody that doesn't know what the hell they're talking about. They're just talking out of their ass. Get your shit together, humanity. Start listening to your scientists. My name is Greta Thunberg and I want you to panic. Dr. Fauci, thanks so much as always for joining us. Good to be here, bro.

3:25:07 I am calling on the administration to put in charge of both production and distribution of materials a military man as czar under the DPA. The Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson was accusing the United States of of possibly starting and spreading coronavirus to China. When the Chinese officials are making these sorts of claims, and they are such a major producer of American drugs, there is an implicit threat there. Guess what? Coronavirus! It comes from China. And at the DPA. We're not dealing with stupid people.

3:25:53 I don't care. I don't care. They've got to be stopped. Some people would say an act of God. I don't view it as an act of God. I would view it as something that just surprised the whole world. An act of DPA. I called for a ban from people coming in from China. Really, we should probably get rid of another 75-80% of just two or three that I like in this room. I think that's a good way of doing it.

3:26:53 And now I think the best thing would be to do is to prevent more loss of life rather than open things up so that, because we just don't know. We have to have testing, testing, testing. That's what we said from the start before we can evaluate what the nature of it is in some of these other regions as well. I don't know what the purpose of that is. I don't know what the scientists are saying to him. I don't know what the scientists said to him. When did this president know about this? And what did he know? What did he know and when did he know it? I don't know what the purpose of that is.

3:27:32 I don't know what the scientists have tested, tested, tested. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. I haven't seen a hooker for a year. OK. OK. We have to have testing, testing, testing. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. I don't know what the purpose of that is. OK. I don't know what the scientists have tested, tested, tested. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. I haven't seen a hooker for a year. Okay. Okay. We have to have testing, testing, testing. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. We just don't know. We'll have ways of monitoring people.

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